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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:08,376 --> 00:00:12,313 ( ROYAL MUSIC PLAYING ) 2 00:00:14,582 --> 00:00:19,620 Royalty is a mixture of myth and reality. 3 00:00:19,653 --> 00:00:23,691 It's the fairy tale romance of a princess... 4 00:00:23,724 --> 00:00:27,027 coming together with living history. 5 00:00:30,431 --> 00:00:32,700 When it comes in the shape of a queen... 6 00:00:32,733 --> 00:00:35,436 my goodness, you've got the full package there. 7 00:00:35,469 --> 00:00:39,707 This is a dream, and yet it's true. 8 00:00:54,288 --> 00:00:57,191 ( SOFT MUSIC PLAYING ) 9 00:00:59,527 --> 00:01:01,462 When Princess Elizabeth was a little girl... 10 00:01:01,495 --> 00:01:04,865 she didn't expect to be queen one day. 11 00:01:04,898 --> 00:01:07,568 She was just a little princess. 12 00:01:07,601 --> 00:01:13,474 Special, yes, leading a rarified life, an unusual life. 13 00:01:13,507 --> 00:01:18,879 But her father was the Duke of York and her mother was the Duchess of York. 14 00:01:18,912 --> 00:01:22,250 And they lived in London, in Piccadilly. 15 00:01:22,283 --> 00:01:28,222 Quite an almost normal, if very grand life. 16 00:01:28,256 --> 00:01:31,859 She was like Princess Beatrice or usually nowadays. 17 00:01:31,892 --> 00:01:34,828 I mean, she was the daughter of the Duchess of York. 18 00:01:34,862 --> 00:01:37,265 And the Duke of York. 19 00:01:37,298 --> 00:01:39,367 Lesser members of the royal family. 20 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:44,305 So she grew up with a great reverence for the crown. 21 00:01:44,338 --> 00:01:47,408 Understanding the importance of duty in the monarchy. 22 00:01:47,441 --> 00:01:51,779 But never got that sort of conceit or bigheadedness... 23 00:01:51,812 --> 00:01:56,250 that sometimes goes with actually being in the job. 24 00:01:56,284 --> 00:01:58,786 And I believe this gave her... 25 00:01:58,819 --> 00:02:02,790 a modesty that people respect. 26 00:02:02,823 --> 00:02:08,362 In those days, members of the royal family didn't have to do nearly as much as they do now. 27 00:02:08,396 --> 00:02:11,865 So, the Duke and Duchess of York and their two children... 28 00:02:11,899 --> 00:02:15,803 Princess Elizabeth born in 1926 and Princess Margaret in 1930. 29 00:02:15,836 --> 00:02:20,941 Could pretty much disappear to Scotland from somewhere round about the middle of July... 30 00:02:20,974 --> 00:02:26,614 until perhaps the middle of October and hardly would be seen at all. 31 00:02:26,647 --> 00:02:30,718 Well, Princess Elizabeth was very close to her father. 32 00:02:30,751 --> 00:02:34,188 And they were a very tight family unit. 33 00:02:34,222 --> 00:02:36,857 He used to call them the four of us. 34 00:02:36,890 --> 00:02:43,397 And although they obviously had tours and duties to do... 35 00:02:43,431 --> 00:02:46,967 they were quite sort of stay-at-home family. 36 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:52,573 So incredibly spoiled in many ways beyond anything any of us can comprehend. 37 00:02:52,606 --> 00:02:55,743 And yet completely deprived. 38 00:02:55,776 --> 00:02:59,980 Deprived of any kind of normalcy, really. 39 00:03:00,013 --> 00:03:05,919 Therefore, desperately trying to make normalcy within the little, tiny world... 40 00:03:05,953 --> 00:03:08,622 that she can make normalcy within. 41 00:03:08,656 --> 00:03:14,462 The princesses were very much isolated from other children. 42 00:03:14,495 --> 00:03:17,898 Hence they interacted with each other and they paradoxically... 43 00:03:17,931 --> 00:03:20,968 would have developed an intense interest in everything ordinary. 44 00:03:21,001 --> 00:03:23,804 What is it like to ride on the Tube? 45 00:03:23,837 --> 00:03:27,808 Or they would look at other children playing at a distance. 46 00:03:27,841 --> 00:03:31,579 And wish that they could talk with them and make friends with them. 47 00:03:31,612 --> 00:03:35,416 She wanted to join the Brownies, the Girl Guides. 48 00:03:35,449 --> 00:03:39,920 Yes, that was considered a good idea, so they formed a Girl Guide troop... 49 00:03:39,953 --> 00:03:42,022 inside Buckingham Palace. 50 00:03:42,055 --> 00:03:47,595 And a handful of nice respectable girls formed the Girl Guide troop. 51 00:03:47,628 --> 00:03:52,966 So she was a Girl Guide. She was a Brownie. But in the safety of a palace. 52 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,970 ANNOUNCER (V.O.): ...Princess Margaret Rose has feet with at the age of seven cannot keep still. 53 00:03:57,004 --> 00:04:00,007 However, that's what you'd expect of a Brownie of the Leprechaun 6... 54 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:01,709 of the Buckingham Palace peck. 55 00:04:01,742 --> 00:04:06,314 Well, I mean, they were voraciously carefree children. 56 00:04:06,347 --> 00:04:09,650 They led a totally normal life as it was possible... 57 00:04:09,683 --> 00:04:11,485 under the circumstances. 58 00:04:11,519 --> 00:04:13,954 And were wonderfully unsophisticated... 59 00:04:13,987 --> 00:04:19,293 I mean, we enjoyed felicity, outdoor games... 60 00:04:19,327 --> 00:04:20,928 that kept us happy all day. 61 00:04:23,564 --> 00:04:26,567 I've talked with one of Princess Elizabeth's playmates... 62 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,702 who knew her when she was a very little girl. 63 00:04:28,736 --> 00:04:31,772 And she said she was great fun to play with... 64 00:04:31,805 --> 00:04:34,375 but quite undaring. 65 00:04:34,408 --> 00:04:36,610 She'd never do anything dangerous. 66 00:04:36,644 --> 00:04:39,947 Right from the beginning, she was a well-brought up... 67 00:04:39,980 --> 00:04:44,752 well-behaved, well-ordered little girl. 68 00:04:44,785 --> 00:04:48,422 She didn't go to a school or university in the traditional way. 69 00:04:48,456 --> 00:04:53,694 She was brought up as young, aristocratic women of her generation would be. 70 00:04:53,727 --> 00:04:58,699 First of all, she was educated at home, and then later a schoolmaster... 71 00:04:58,732 --> 00:05:04,071 from Eaton college gave her special lessons in constitutional history. 72 00:05:04,104 --> 00:05:10,310 Their official source of education was in many ways... 73 00:05:11,679 --> 00:05:17,818 reliable, trustworthy, good, basic... 74 00:05:17,851 --> 00:05:22,723 but I have to say, inadequate. 75 00:05:22,756 --> 00:05:25,893 Her education was essentially that of her mother. 76 00:05:25,926 --> 00:05:28,829 That's to say, her mother's views... 77 00:05:28,862 --> 00:05:32,566 on how an aristocratic little girl should be brought up. 78 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,769 Namely to be a debutante... 79 00:05:35,803 --> 00:05:38,439 to be interested in country pursuits. 80 00:05:38,472 --> 00:05:42,810 To be able to make polite dinner party conversation of a not-too-high-powered kind. 81 00:05:42,843 --> 00:05:46,780 And emphatically not to be a bluestocking. 82 00:05:46,814 --> 00:05:50,518 Princess Elizabeth, of course, was born in the 1920's... 83 00:05:50,551 --> 00:05:53,887 in the aftermath of the Great War... 84 00:05:53,921 --> 00:05:56,690 and in the run-up to the Second World War... 85 00:05:56,724 --> 00:06:00,127 it was a time of austerity... 86 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:04,532 and through the 1930's, it was a time of unemployment. 87 00:06:04,565 --> 00:06:08,135 It was a stringent and hard, tough time. 88 00:06:08,168 --> 00:06:10,638 ANNOUNCER (V.O.): For the 14th year out of 15, His Royal Highness... 89 00:06:10,671 --> 00:06:12,806 the Duke of York spends a night at his camp. 90 00:06:12,840 --> 00:06:14,942 Where under the Industrial Welfare Movement... 91 00:06:14,975 --> 00:06:18,045 400 boys from the public schools and industrial centers... 92 00:06:18,078 --> 00:06:22,182 are spending their holiday together in the comradeship of the open air. 93 00:06:22,215 --> 00:06:25,653 I think her parents were a little bit more in touch... 94 00:06:25,686 --> 00:06:28,656 with what was going on in the real world. 95 00:06:28,689 --> 00:06:30,524 And I think that was a good thing. 96 00:06:30,558 --> 00:06:32,993 So, the queen would have been aware, even as a youngster... 97 00:06:33,026 --> 00:06:35,095 that things were not good on the outside. 98 00:06:35,128 --> 00:06:38,799 That many of her subjects were having a very, very difficult time. 99 00:06:38,832 --> 00:06:42,035 Previous generations of royals, that wouldn't have applied. 100 00:06:42,069 --> 00:06:44,171 They would have been away in their palaces... 101 00:06:44,204 --> 00:06:48,809 and wouldn't have had anything to do with, let's say, ordinary people. 102 00:06:48,842 --> 00:06:52,179 Not so in the case of Princess Elizabeth. 103 00:06:56,950 --> 00:07:00,187 They were really eye-opening times for the queen. 104 00:07:00,220 --> 00:07:02,022 Particularly, I think, because of her relationship with her mother. 105 00:07:02,055 --> 00:07:05,225 The Queen Mother was always someone who wanted to... 106 00:07:05,258 --> 00:07:07,795 be involved in society and community. 107 00:07:07,828 --> 00:07:10,731 Famously, during the Blitz, she said that she was glad... 108 00:07:10,764 --> 00:07:14,034 that Buckingham Palace had been bombed, because she wanted to look the East End in the face. 109 00:07:14,067 --> 00:07:17,671 I think, similarly, they were very much in tune with their times. 110 00:07:17,705 --> 00:07:22,109 And the queen particularly, I think, understood the notion of not-being-seen... 111 00:07:22,142 --> 00:07:27,815 to be splashing cash at times when things were difficult for other people. 112 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,989 She was devoted to her father, and he to her. 113 00:07:38,526 --> 00:07:42,930 He always used to say of the two daughters, Lilibeth is my pride... 114 00:07:42,963 --> 00:07:44,532 and Margaret is my joy. 115 00:07:44,565 --> 00:07:46,634 The younger sister, he spoiled rotten. 116 00:07:46,667 --> 00:07:49,803 He couldn't believe that he had created such a glamorous creature. 117 00:07:49,837 --> 00:07:54,575 Now little sister Margaret Rose was the naughty, skittish one in the family. 118 00:07:54,608 --> 00:07:57,611 Right from the beginning, Princess Elizabeth behaved... 119 00:07:57,645 --> 00:08:01,281 almost as though she was queen-in-waiting. 120 00:08:01,314 --> 00:08:06,720 You can find nothing on record at all of Princess Elizabeth... 121 00:08:06,754 --> 00:08:11,024 ever doing anything that would really be considered naughty. 122 00:08:11,058 --> 00:08:13,861 At the time, it was quite an idyllic upbringing... 123 00:08:13,894 --> 00:08:16,096 because the princesses saw a lot of their parents... 124 00:08:16,129 --> 00:08:19,099 because they were around a lot more, post-abdication. 125 00:08:19,132 --> 00:08:23,571 All of that changed and I think what was most difficult for the queen when she was a girl... 126 00:08:23,604 --> 00:08:26,774 was really the transition from what was quite a low-key existence... 127 00:08:26,807 --> 00:08:29,142 to suddenly being thrust into the spotlight. 128 00:08:34,815 --> 00:08:38,285 Nobody was expecting the Prince of Wales, who's later Edward the 8th... 129 00:08:38,318 --> 00:08:41,789 to abdicate until really quite late on. 130 00:08:46,694 --> 00:08:53,300 And it was a terrible shock for the Duke of York to realize that this was the king's intention. 131 00:08:53,333 --> 00:08:56,570 And that he was then going to have to take over. 132 00:08:59,707 --> 00:09:05,178 And I would suggest that it was probably not much before the end of November, 1936... 133 00:09:05,212 --> 00:09:06,614 that this really dawned on them. 134 00:09:06,647 --> 00:09:09,316 God save the King! 135 00:09:14,321 --> 00:09:17,157 ANNOUNCER (V.O): The man who had sought a quieter part in life... 136 00:09:17,190 --> 00:09:20,994 was crowned ruler of the greatest empire in history. 137 00:09:21,028 --> 00:09:25,365 Her father, famously, of course, with his stutter... 138 00:09:25,398 --> 00:09:27,868 wasn't made for public life. 139 00:09:27,901 --> 00:09:31,972 But really applied himself, as we saw in the film The King's Speech... 140 00:09:32,005 --> 00:09:34,842 to the job of becoming a modern monarch. 141 00:09:34,875 --> 00:09:41,715 He had not performed terribly well at a speech he'd made at Wembley... 142 00:09:41,749 --> 00:09:44,251 which is the speech which opens the film. 143 00:09:44,284 --> 00:09:47,921 And as a result of that, there was a feeling that he needed to get treated. 144 00:09:47,955 --> 00:09:50,724 Had it had been a century earlier, probably people wouldn't have even noticed... 145 00:09:50,758 --> 00:09:52,025 that he had a stammer. 146 00:09:52,059 --> 00:09:54,762 Before that, all the king had to do... 147 00:09:54,795 --> 00:09:57,330 was to stand up or to not fall off his horse... 148 00:09:57,364 --> 00:10:00,333 which is one of the great lines in the film. 149 00:10:00,367 --> 00:10:03,937 That changed, of course, in the 1930's with the invention of radio. 150 00:10:03,971 --> 00:10:06,807 KING EDWARD (V.O.): The queen and I... 151 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:11,645 will always keep in our hearts... 152 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:15,749 of inspiration of this day. 153 00:10:17,818 --> 00:10:22,189 And may we ever be worthy of the good will... 154 00:10:22,222 --> 00:10:27,360 which I am proud to think surrounds us... 155 00:10:27,394 --> 00:10:30,297 at the outset of my reign. 156 00:10:35,168 --> 00:10:39,239 His marriage to Elizabeth Bowen Lyons, the future Queen Mother... 157 00:10:39,272 --> 00:10:41,274 had an extraordinary influence on his life. 158 00:10:41,308 --> 00:10:45,879 She was really the one that encouraged him to seek treatment... 159 00:10:45,913 --> 00:10:48,816 because she just really wanted him to be cured. 160 00:10:48,849 --> 00:10:53,220 When the duke first consulted Logue, they had an extraordinary number of meetings. 161 00:10:53,253 --> 00:10:56,456 It was very, very intensive indeed. 162 00:10:56,489 --> 00:10:58,992 It worked out in the first 14 months or so... 163 00:10:59,026 --> 00:11:01,962 that they met 80 times. 164 00:11:01,995 --> 00:11:05,332 Sometimes meeting as often as once a week at the very beginning... 165 00:11:05,365 --> 00:11:07,300 or often more frequently than that... 166 00:11:07,334 --> 00:11:12,439 and he then continued to consult Logue, not on such a frequent basis... 167 00:11:12,472 --> 00:11:14,808 in the late 1920's and 1930's. 168 00:11:14,842 --> 00:11:18,979 But after the abdication of his brother at the end of 1936... 169 00:11:19,012 --> 00:11:22,983 then their relationship really moved up a gear. 170 00:11:23,016 --> 00:11:24,885 KING EDWARD (V.O): This morning... 171 00:11:24,918 --> 00:11:28,989 the British Ambassador in Berlin handed the German... 172 00:11:29,022 --> 00:11:34,762 government a final note, stating that unless we heard... 173 00:11:34,795 --> 00:11:40,333 from them by 11:00, that they were prepared at once... 174 00:11:40,367 --> 00:11:43,937 to withdraw their troops from Poland... 175 00:11:43,971 --> 00:11:48,876 a state of war would exist between us. 176 00:11:48,909 --> 00:11:55,015 I have to tell you now, that no such undertaking has been received. 177 00:11:55,048 --> 00:12:01,789 And that consequently, this country is at war with Germany. 178 00:12:01,822 --> 00:12:07,127 Neville Chamberlain, the Prime Minister, had already declared war earlier that day. 179 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,430 This was the first chance for the King to become the father of the nation. 180 00:12:10,463 --> 00:12:13,967 To speak to his people, and to speak to the empire. 181 00:12:14,001 --> 00:12:17,404 The speech which ends the film, The King's Speech... 182 00:12:17,437 --> 00:12:19,106 as it's become known now... 183 00:12:19,139 --> 00:12:22,810 was obviously an extraordinary important speech. 184 00:12:22,843 --> 00:12:25,813 And Logue was clearly orchestrating the speech. 185 00:12:25,846 --> 00:12:28,181 I'm sure was encouraging him, was egging him on... 186 00:12:28,215 --> 00:12:30,417 in the same way as he appears to be doing in the film. 187 00:12:30,450 --> 00:12:35,322 KING EDWARD (V.O.): In this grave hour... 188 00:12:35,355 --> 00:12:42,195 perhaps the most faithful in our history... 189 00:12:42,229 --> 00:12:48,836 I send to every household of my people... 190 00:12:48,869 --> 00:12:52,372 both at home and overseas... 191 00:12:54,842 --> 00:12:56,944 this message. 192 00:12:56,977 --> 00:13:01,081 We are at war. 193 00:13:01,114 --> 00:13:07,921 With God's help, we shall prevail. 194 00:13:07,955 --> 00:13:11,992 In a sense, one could say that the Second World War came to his rescue... 195 00:13:12,025 --> 00:13:17,965 because he was there, he played a very statesman-like role... during the Second World War. 196 00:13:17,998 --> 00:13:23,503 And by the end of it, he was absolutely entrenched as a beloved king. 197 00:13:23,536 --> 00:13:27,875 ANNOUNCER (V.O.): Whether in France with his troops or at home with his bond people... 198 00:13:27,908 --> 00:13:31,111 his courage and cheerfulness were an inspiration. 199 00:13:31,144 --> 00:13:33,346 This was total war... 200 00:13:33,380 --> 00:13:37,250 and the king suffered with so many of his subjects the bombing of his home. 201 00:13:37,284 --> 00:13:42,155 Princess Elizabeth saw in her father this devotion to duty. 202 00:13:42,189 --> 00:13:45,092 Duty really what came before personal happiness. 203 00:13:45,125 --> 00:13:47,060 And she also saw it in her mother. 204 00:13:47,094 --> 00:13:52,532 And that is the way that she has structured her own reign. 205 00:13:52,565 --> 00:13:56,136 You know, she's really sacrificed her family in a way. 206 00:13:56,169 --> 00:14:01,008 She loved her daddy. She was a daddy's girl in many ways. 207 00:14:01,041 --> 00:14:04,978 But she looked at what her father did... 208 00:14:05,012 --> 00:14:08,581 and respected what he did and tried to follow his example. 209 00:14:08,615 --> 00:14:13,220 Now, in the same way, he felt that respect for her. 210 00:14:13,253 --> 00:14:17,624 King George said from a very early age, Elizabeth seemed very regal... 211 00:14:17,657 --> 00:14:19,993 and even as a child in the cot... 212 00:14:20,027 --> 00:14:23,296 she seemed to be very much in control of herself and her emotions. 213 00:14:23,330 --> 00:14:28,902 He said, "I look at her and I see Queen Victoria. 214 00:14:28,936 --> 00:14:34,107 "I see the evidence of a great monarch in the making." 215 00:14:34,141 --> 00:14:37,110 We don't need a boy to do the job, she'll do it better. 216 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:45,085 The were several events early in her life which have shaped the attitude... 217 00:14:45,118 --> 00:14:47,454 and I think the essential seriousness of the queen. 218 00:14:47,487 --> 00:14:52,993 One, the recession, the depression years in which she grew up. 219 00:14:53,026 --> 00:14:58,265 Secondly, the abdication, which was such a trauma in her own family. 220 00:14:58,298 --> 00:15:03,470 With such upset to her very emotional father... 221 00:15:03,503 --> 00:15:08,675 through her uncle Edward the 8th not doing his duty as the royal family saw it. 222 00:15:08,708 --> 00:15:14,514 Indulging in his love for a woman and putting that above his duty to the Crown. 223 00:15:14,547 --> 00:15:16,349 And certainly World War II. 224 00:15:16,383 --> 00:15:20,520 During the Second World War, she and her younger sisters... 225 00:15:20,553 --> 00:15:25,725 lived at Windsor Castle really in sort of isolation. 226 00:15:25,758 --> 00:15:29,596 They lived in the castle. People came in to entertain them. 227 00:15:29,629 --> 00:15:32,065 Dances were given, parties were given. 228 00:15:32,099 --> 00:15:36,469 They met young aristocratic soldiers, Guardsmen of the day. 229 00:15:36,503 --> 00:15:38,538 Well, it sounds a bit strange, but I think the war... 230 00:15:38,571 --> 00:15:43,076 was actually rather an enjoyable time for the princess. 231 00:15:43,110 --> 00:15:47,214 And I think Princess Elizabeth actually said to her governor... 232 00:15:47,247 --> 00:15:50,717 perhaps we're smiling too much. We're looking too happy... 233 00:15:50,750 --> 00:15:54,687 because she knew what was going on, obviously, and she was really interested. 234 00:15:54,721 --> 00:15:58,992 But they were really had their war years at Windsor Castle. 235 00:15:59,026 --> 00:16:02,762 And it was like a great, big playground. 236 00:16:02,795 --> 00:16:07,134 She wanted to join something called the ATS, the Auxiliary Territorial Service. 237 00:16:07,167 --> 00:16:09,636 Effectively the women's army. 238 00:16:09,669 --> 00:16:11,771 ANNOUNCER (V.O.): Though she drives it with a patent composure... 239 00:16:11,804 --> 00:16:15,408 she had no experience of driving before she commenced her training. 240 00:16:15,442 --> 00:16:19,546 And for a couple of months, she went to Aldershot every day... 241 00:16:19,579 --> 00:16:23,283 and studied how to be a car mechanic. 242 00:16:23,316 --> 00:16:24,784 How to change wheels. 243 00:16:24,817 --> 00:16:27,487 How to take off a cylinder block. 244 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,689 ANNOUNCER (V.O.): And when it comes to checking the plugs... 245 00:16:29,722 --> 00:16:33,126 Princess Margaret has obviously become suitably impressed. 246 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,628 Yes, she did do war work. 247 00:16:35,662 --> 00:16:39,099 She got into a uniform, she did some training. 248 00:16:39,132 --> 00:16:44,771 She learned how to change, you know, the wheel on a car. 249 00:16:44,804 --> 00:16:47,707 She, you know, got her hands dirty. 250 00:16:47,740 --> 00:16:51,711 But she then went back at night to the safety of the castle. 251 00:16:51,744 --> 00:16:55,482 She'll come home in the evening and bore the family rigid... 252 00:16:55,515 --> 00:16:59,252 with the dynamics of cylinder blocks and that sort of thing. 253 00:16:59,286 --> 00:17:02,089 I mean, everything this woman does, at any age... 254 00:17:02,122 --> 00:17:04,757 is something she's done seriously. 255 00:17:09,162 --> 00:17:13,400 At the end of the Second World War, when victory in Europe was announced... 256 00:17:13,433 --> 00:17:16,303 there was huge celebration in the streets of London. 257 00:17:16,336 --> 00:17:18,671 Literally dancing in the streets. 258 00:17:18,705 --> 00:17:23,843 Princess Elizabeth asked her father if she might go down into the streets... 259 00:17:23,876 --> 00:17:25,745 to see what was going on. 260 00:17:25,778 --> 00:17:30,283 And with a couple of cruddies, guardsmen... 261 00:17:30,317 --> 00:17:33,286 she went down into the streets of London... 262 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,656 and briefly mingled with the crowds. 263 00:17:36,689 --> 00:17:41,060 And that really was as close as she'd got to the reality of war. 264 00:17:42,862 --> 00:17:44,531 QUEEN ELIZABETH 2 (V.O.): My sister and I realized... 265 00:17:44,564 --> 00:17:47,700 we couldn't see what the crowds were enjoying. 266 00:17:47,734 --> 00:17:53,140 So we asked my parents if we could go out and see for ourselves. 267 00:17:53,173 --> 00:17:56,376 I remember we were terrified of being recognized. 268 00:17:56,409 --> 00:18:00,180 So I pulled my uniform hat well down over my eyes. 269 00:18:00,213 --> 00:18:02,749 We cheered the king and queen on the balcony... 270 00:18:02,782 --> 00:18:05,718 and then walked miles through the streets. 271 00:18:05,752 --> 00:18:10,490 I think it was one of the most memorable nights of my life. 272 00:18:13,426 --> 00:18:17,264 It was the Emperor Napoleon who said, "If you want to understand a person... 273 00:18:17,297 --> 00:18:22,869 "you should look at the way the world was in the year that person turned 21." 274 00:18:22,902 --> 00:18:27,574 Well, the queen became 21 in the 1940's... 275 00:18:27,607 --> 00:18:32,479 and she has the values of a woman of that generation. 276 00:18:32,512 --> 00:18:36,249 She is decent, she is discreet. 277 00:18:36,283 --> 00:18:39,252 She does her duty. 278 00:18:39,286 --> 00:18:41,621 One of the extraordinary things about the queen... 279 00:18:41,654 --> 00:18:48,461 is that she fell in love and married just about the first man she met. 280 00:18:48,495 --> 00:18:50,697 Of course, it's a slight exaggeration... 281 00:18:50,730 --> 00:18:55,635 but she met Prince Philip of Greece, as he then was in 1939... 282 00:18:55,668 --> 00:19:00,807 when he was a dashing naval cadet at Dartmouth Naval College. 283 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,310 She'd met him before at family occasions... 284 00:19:03,343 --> 00:19:05,712 but this was the occasion when, by her own account... 285 00:19:05,745 --> 00:19:08,848 the spark was struck. 286 00:19:08,881 --> 00:19:13,853 Very dashing and very handsome, and I mean quite unusually. 287 00:19:13,886 --> 00:19:20,393 She actually thought this man is wonderful, you know, as a 13-year-old could think. 288 00:19:20,427 --> 00:19:22,262 A handsome prince. 289 00:19:22,295 --> 00:19:27,734 And never really had any affection for any other man ever since. 290 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,908 He was astonish good looking... 291 00:19:35,942 --> 00:19:42,682 in a flaxen, and yet a number of women who swooned at the time... 292 00:19:42,715 --> 00:19:44,817 and who swooned later... 293 00:19:44,851 --> 00:19:50,957 and described him as having Viking looks and flaxen hair and all the rest of it. 294 00:19:50,990 --> 00:19:56,263 He was an astonishing figure and in uniform he looked ridiculously good. 295 00:19:56,296 --> 00:20:01,000 And he's always maintained a very fit profile... 296 00:20:01,033 --> 00:20:05,672 and he looked what he was, a young Greek god. 297 00:20:08,007 --> 00:20:11,578 Prince Philip was very alpha male. 298 00:20:11,611 --> 00:20:14,881 Quite controlling, but very positive... 299 00:20:14,914 --> 00:20:19,018 and I don't think Princess Elizabeth ever met a man like that in her life. 300 00:20:19,051 --> 00:20:22,889 She was used to going out with lord this and lord that... 301 00:20:22,922 --> 00:20:25,725 and you know, people being very deferential to her... 302 00:20:25,758 --> 00:20:28,861 and suddenly someone comes along and tells her what to do. 303 00:20:28,895 --> 00:20:31,864 And drives too fast, and does all kinds of things. 304 00:20:31,898 --> 00:20:36,869 And I think he was just so male, she was so incredibly in love with him. 305 00:20:40,907 --> 00:20:44,644 They were both great-great grandchildren of Queen Victoria. 306 00:20:44,677 --> 00:20:47,647 And by the end of the 1930's, Prince Philip... 307 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,382 though he had a family... 308 00:20:49,416 --> 00:20:51,918 his father was in the south of France. 309 00:20:51,951 --> 00:20:54,754 His mother was back in Greece. 310 00:20:54,787 --> 00:20:58,491 His sisters were in Germany and he was in England. 311 00:20:58,525 --> 00:21:01,628 And he would go to homes, houses of people... 312 00:21:01,661 --> 00:21:06,699 and in the visitor's book would write when his address as no fixed abode. 313 00:21:06,733 --> 00:21:13,072 And Princess Elizabeth and he became friendly as the war wore on... 314 00:21:13,105 --> 00:21:16,943 and by the end of the war, their friendship was deepening. 315 00:21:16,976 --> 00:21:20,580 From time to time, he used to wind up at Windsor Castle. 316 00:21:20,613 --> 00:21:22,582 He saw the queen in one of his pantomimes... 317 00:21:22,615 --> 00:21:25,918 and at a certain point, she was writing to him... 318 00:21:25,952 --> 00:21:28,455 and indeed had a photograph of a bearded gentleman... 319 00:21:28,488 --> 00:21:33,560 on her dressing table, which is always quite fun to share in lectures... 320 00:21:33,593 --> 00:21:35,828 because that is indeed Prince Philip. 321 00:21:35,862 --> 00:21:37,864 In the days when he had a beard. 322 00:21:37,897 --> 00:21:41,834 And then, of course, shortly after that, the romance developed. 323 00:21:41,868 --> 00:21:44,704 He was in the Royal Navy. He was a cousin. 324 00:21:44,737 --> 00:21:48,441 He was certainly eligible. He was hugely charming. 325 00:21:48,475 --> 00:21:54,581 And by 1946, they were in love and ready to get engaged. 326 00:21:54,614 --> 00:21:58,351 I don't think that Prince Philip... 327 00:21:58,385 --> 00:22:01,888 ever fell foul of King George the 6th particularly... 328 00:22:01,921 --> 00:22:05,392 but she, his bride to be, was very young. 329 00:22:05,425 --> 00:22:07,927 They were both quite young. 330 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:09,896 And he wanted her to wait. 331 00:22:09,929 --> 00:22:13,065 And it's rather touching, actually... 332 00:22:13,099 --> 00:22:18,905 that they went off the only time that they were together on a foreign trip, en famie. 333 00:22:18,938 --> 00:22:22,942 Just the four of us, as he always said, George the 6th. 334 00:22:22,975 --> 00:22:27,747 Was the 1947 trip to South Africa. 335 00:22:31,818 --> 00:22:35,655 Princess Elizabeth became 21 when she was in South Africa... 336 00:22:35,688 --> 00:22:39,859 and made this extraordinary speech dedicating her life... 337 00:22:39,892 --> 00:22:44,096 to the services of the Commonwealth, the Empire, indeed I think she said in those days. 338 00:22:44,130 --> 00:22:50,637 And it's very, very harevert. I mean, it fits in with this wish to serve first. 339 00:22:50,670 --> 00:22:53,473 And I think that that's what she's always wanted to do. 340 00:22:53,506 --> 00:22:58,411 When you, you of the British family of nations... 341 00:22:58,445 --> 00:23:03,450 let me speak on my birthday as your representative. 342 00:23:03,483 --> 00:23:06,786 Now that we are coming to manhood and womanhood... 343 00:23:06,819 --> 00:23:12,892 it is surely a great joy to us all to think that we shall be able to take... 344 00:23:12,925 --> 00:23:16,463 some of the burden off the shoulders of our elders... 345 00:23:16,496 --> 00:23:21,100 who have fought and worked and suffered to protect our childhood. 346 00:23:21,133 --> 00:23:23,570 Now she didn't write it herself. 347 00:23:23,603 --> 00:23:27,774 It was written by one of her private secretaries and given to her to approve. 348 00:23:27,807 --> 00:23:30,643 But apparently, the first time she read it, she cried. 349 00:23:30,677 --> 00:23:35,948 And she said, "This is exactly what I feel. This is exactly what I want to say." 350 00:23:35,982 --> 00:23:41,821 It showed that her father's faith in her was justified. 351 00:23:41,854 --> 00:23:44,691 That she had this overwhelming sense of duty. 352 00:23:44,724 --> 00:23:48,761 Not just to Britain, but the Commonwealth as a whole. 353 00:23:48,795 --> 00:23:52,632 And that that was gonna be the most important thing in her life. 354 00:23:52,665 --> 00:23:59,472 I declare before you all, with my whole life, whether it be long or short... 355 00:23:59,506 --> 00:24:06,078 shall be devoted to your service, and to the service of our great Imperial family... 356 00:24:06,112 --> 00:24:08,748 to which we all belong. 357 00:24:08,781 --> 00:24:13,085 But I shall not have strength to carry out this resolution alone... 358 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:19,091 unless you join in it with me as I now invite you to do. 359 00:24:19,125 --> 00:24:23,963 It was really her last time as a daughter in the family. 360 00:24:23,996 --> 00:24:25,798 She knew that when it was over... 361 00:24:25,832 --> 00:24:31,704 she was going to get engaged to Philip and then marry him. 362 00:24:31,738 --> 00:24:35,875 The king was naturally anxious that his daughter make the right decision... 363 00:24:35,908 --> 00:24:39,579 and of course he was also, no, not totally happy at the idea,,, 364 00:24:39,612 --> 00:24:42,882 of this very, very close-knit family of four. 365 00:24:42,915 --> 00:24:45,151 Us Four as he used to call them, being broken up... 366 00:24:45,184 --> 00:24:49,522 and the additional figure of Prince Philip, who was of course an interesting character... 367 00:24:49,556 --> 00:24:51,858 but he's not entirely easy, either. 368 00:24:51,891 --> 00:24:56,262 I mean, he wasn't going to just arrive on the scene and not make an impact. 369 00:24:56,295 --> 00:24:58,631 And I think the king was well aware of that, too. 370 00:25:02,334 --> 00:25:04,370 ANNOUNCER (O.S.): With news of growing preparations for the royal wedding... 371 00:25:04,403 --> 00:25:11,243 come these notable pictures of the royal family accompanied by Lieutenant Philip Mountbatten. 372 00:25:11,277 --> 00:25:15,682 People at court weren't sure who this man was. 373 00:25:15,715 --> 00:25:19,018 Princess Elizabeth was a perfect princess. 374 00:25:19,051 --> 00:25:21,954 She was beautiful, she was well brought up. 375 00:25:21,988 --> 00:25:23,756 She knew how to behave. 376 00:25:23,790 --> 00:25:26,158 Nobody was quite sure about Prince Philip. 377 00:25:26,192 --> 00:25:29,095 Who was he? Where were his parents? 378 00:25:33,633 --> 00:25:37,837 His grandfather, the king of Greece, had been assassinated. 379 00:25:37,870 --> 00:25:41,140 His own father, in the year of Prince Philip's birth... 380 00:25:41,173 --> 00:25:47,847 was put on trial in a show trial and due to be possibly executed. 381 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,984 He escaped into exile. This is Prince Philip's father. 382 00:25:52,018 --> 00:25:55,722 With his family, and they settled in France. 383 00:25:55,755 --> 00:25:59,759 Prince Philip's upbringing was in a sense difficult. 384 00:25:59,792 --> 00:26:04,196 I mean, he was born famously on a kitchen table in Corfu... 385 00:26:04,230 --> 00:26:08,935 and he was evacuated in an orange box on board a British destroyer. 386 00:26:08,968 --> 00:26:11,904 And he led a life of comparative. 387 00:26:11,938 --> 00:26:17,710 And I think it's reasonable to say comparative fennury in France. 388 00:26:17,744 --> 00:26:20,713 Then at the end of the 1920's, his parents split up. 389 00:26:20,747 --> 00:26:24,350 His mother had a breakdown and ended up in asylum in Switzerland. 390 00:26:24,383 --> 00:26:27,353 His father floated down to the south of France... 391 00:26:27,386 --> 00:26:32,158 where he ended up with a girlfriend, living in a boat off the French Riviera. 392 00:26:32,191 --> 00:26:37,897 He always said to me that he was essentially Pan European. 393 00:26:37,930 --> 00:26:39,699 I don't know what he was. 394 00:26:39,732 --> 00:26:45,872 He certainly is categorized as being filled with grief. 395 00:26:45,905 --> 00:26:48,107 But he doesn't have any Greek blood in him at all. 396 00:26:48,140 --> 00:26:53,112 The Greek royal family of which he was a member... 397 00:26:53,145 --> 00:26:56,115 were parachuted in, they were rent-a-royals. 398 00:26:56,148 --> 00:27:00,720 Insofar as he comes from anywhere, I guess he comes from Germany probably. 399 00:27:00,753 --> 00:27:05,191 And you know, he himself said, "Why should I like the Greeks? 400 00:27:05,224 --> 00:27:10,797 "They treated my family appallingly." Which they did. 401 00:27:10,830 --> 00:27:13,900 So the idea that he's Greek is very far from the truth. 402 00:27:15,835 --> 00:27:18,705 See people didn't know who this prince was. 403 00:27:18,738 --> 00:27:22,942 He hadn't been to a proper English public school. 404 00:27:22,975 --> 00:27:25,878 He hadn't been in the brigade of guards. 405 00:27:25,912 --> 00:27:28,180 He'd been to this school called Gordonstoun. 406 00:27:28,214 --> 00:27:32,852 Founded by a German, Prince Max of Baden... 407 00:27:32,885 --> 00:27:35,121 you know, who'd founded Salem. 408 00:27:35,154 --> 00:27:38,224 He joined the Royal Navy, well, mentions dispatches. 409 00:27:38,257 --> 00:27:41,761 That isn't bad, but who was he? 410 00:27:41,794 --> 00:27:44,296 And so, when the engagement happened... 411 00:27:44,330 --> 00:27:48,968 there were lots of people around the queen and the king at the time... 412 00:27:49,001 --> 00:27:51,103 who had their reservations. 413 00:28:04,483 --> 00:28:07,954 ANNOUNCER (O.S.): Homage and rejoicing, side by side with flowing pageantry... 414 00:28:07,987 --> 00:28:11,791 marked Britain's greatest royal occasion since the coronation. 415 00:28:11,824 --> 00:28:16,128 The royal wedding was seen as a sort of new Elizabethan Age. 416 00:28:16,162 --> 00:28:21,367 The country was in a terrible state. It was very austere right after the war. 417 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,136 And certainly that this beautiful bride... 418 00:28:24,170 --> 00:28:27,406 because Princess Elizabeth was incredibly beautiful... 419 00:28:27,439 --> 00:28:29,942 and this handsome Naval officer... 420 00:28:29,976 --> 00:28:34,413 were going to carry the country out of the doldrums of war... 421 00:28:34,446 --> 00:28:38,985 and present them with a golden future. 422 00:28:39,018 --> 00:28:41,754 But the feeling was very much of their wedding... 423 00:28:41,788 --> 00:28:43,289 it was like a fairy tale. 424 00:28:49,428 --> 00:28:52,098 ANNOUNCER (V.O.): Before long, the cause of a people that answered... 425 00:28:52,131 --> 00:28:55,534 as onto the famous balcony came the bride and bridegroom. 426 00:28:55,567 --> 00:28:59,005 The time of the wedding of Princess Elizabeth and Prince Philip... 427 00:28:59,038 --> 00:29:01,808 his sisters were not invited... 428 00:29:01,841 --> 00:29:06,145 simply because they were Germans living in Germany... 429 00:29:06,178 --> 00:29:08,414 with, you know, German husbands. 430 00:29:08,447 --> 00:29:11,984 One of whom was still going through the de-Nazification process. 431 00:29:12,018 --> 00:29:16,055 So, you know, they had to be careful. 432 00:29:16,088 --> 00:29:20,492 I think the British public on the whole, regarded the marriage... 433 00:29:20,526 --> 00:29:27,299 of Prince Philip and to the future queen as welcome, blessed relief... 434 00:29:27,333 --> 00:29:32,171 you know, from a time of considerable austerity and awfulness. 435 00:29:32,204 --> 00:29:36,442 And there was more rationing paradoxically after the war ended... 436 00:29:36,475 --> 00:29:38,477 then there had been during the war itself. 437 00:29:38,510 --> 00:29:42,114 And one of the charming things is, that I think of the 1,700... 438 00:29:42,148 --> 00:29:45,184 or so wedding presents that were officially listed... 439 00:29:45,217 --> 00:29:49,989 several hundred were nylon stockings, which ladies... 440 00:29:50,022 --> 00:29:55,227 loyal ladies in the country decided to send to the princess. 441 00:29:55,261 --> 00:29:59,298 They knew in those hard times, what every girl wanted. 442 00:29:59,331 --> 00:30:01,901 ANNOUNCER (V.O.): May the present happiness of our princess... 443 00:30:01,934 --> 00:30:06,438 and her sailor husband grow ever deeper for the years to come. 444 00:30:12,478 --> 00:30:18,017 After her marriage to Philip, they'd had their first two children pretty rapidly. 445 00:30:18,050 --> 00:30:21,020 She wanted more, she had to delay her family. 446 00:30:21,053 --> 00:30:24,090 That's why her children come in two tranches, as it were. 447 00:30:24,123 --> 00:30:25,591 One before her coronation. 448 00:30:25,624 --> 00:30:28,194 One once she'd played herself in and settled. 449 00:30:28,227 --> 00:30:33,032 And she had had this wonderful experience for just about a year with Philip... 450 00:30:33,065 --> 00:30:35,868 of being a naval officer's wife. 451 00:30:35,902 --> 00:30:42,141 Philip insisted after the marriage that he should pursue his naval career. 452 00:30:42,174 --> 00:30:46,312 She wanted him very much to do this. 453 00:30:46,345 --> 00:30:50,516 The royal family agreed and so he actually went off to Malta... 454 00:30:50,549 --> 00:30:53,920 where the British Navy had still a large contingent in those days. 455 00:30:53,953 --> 00:30:56,088 He was given his own ship. 456 00:30:56,122 --> 00:30:59,158 She went out there, not as a princess, but as the captain's wife. 457 00:30:59,191 --> 00:31:04,063 And for the first and only time in her life, she drove her own car... 458 00:31:04,096 --> 00:31:08,067 she went to hairdressing salons, she met friends in cafes for coffee. 459 00:31:08,100 --> 00:31:11,470 She had something resembling an ordinary life... 460 00:31:11,503 --> 00:31:17,076 and it had been her wish and hope that that could continue for several years. 461 00:31:20,579 --> 00:31:24,316 It was obvious that she meant to enjoy herself. 462 00:31:24,350 --> 00:31:27,519 She had no restriction. She could move about on her own in motor. 463 00:31:27,553 --> 00:31:31,490 It was simply novel for her, you know. 464 00:31:31,523 --> 00:31:36,963 I think officially, she was the boss. 465 00:31:36,996 --> 00:31:41,067 But in private life, I think Philip ran the show. 466 00:31:41,100 --> 00:31:43,035 That's my impression, yes. 467 00:31:43,069 --> 00:31:46,005 He seemed to boss her around most of the time, you know? 468 00:31:46,038 --> 00:31:51,543 I shouldn't say this, perhaps. I've heard him swear at her. 469 00:31:53,479 --> 00:31:55,314 The thing about the queen and Prince Philip... 470 00:31:55,347 --> 00:31:58,450 is that they both, as it were, they're very, very well matched. 471 00:31:58,484 --> 00:32:00,953 I mean, she took on somebody her own size. 472 00:32:00,987 --> 00:32:03,089 I mean, he is the one person... 473 00:32:03,122 --> 00:32:08,327 who can categorically tell her if something is not going well. 474 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,963 He can talk to her directly and he does. 475 00:32:10,997 --> 00:32:14,500 And it's been a very, very interesting relationship... 476 00:32:14,533 --> 00:32:17,203 which has lasted now... 477 00:32:17,236 --> 00:32:21,740 you know, very nearly 64 years. 478 00:32:21,773 --> 00:32:24,443 I think the queen herself will be the first to admit... 479 00:32:24,476 --> 00:32:27,146 that Prince Philip isn't somebody you minces his words. 480 00:32:27,179 --> 00:32:28,447 He's got an opinion on everything... 481 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,682 and he doesn't mind expressing it. 482 00:32:30,716 --> 00:32:34,286 And for the queen herself, when you consider that she's surrounded... 483 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,089 by a lot of lackeys and perhaps a lot of yes men. 484 00:32:37,123 --> 00:32:40,492 Actually having a man in her life to tell her what he thinks... 485 00:32:40,526 --> 00:32:44,230 of what she's doing is probably a refreshing change. 486 00:32:44,263 --> 00:32:48,300 He does wear the trousers behind palace doors and he's the head of the family... 487 00:32:48,334 --> 00:32:53,339 and he's made a lot of changes at Buckingham Palace, which have been for the better. 488 00:32:53,372 --> 00:32:56,642 I think he likes to avoid comparisons with Prince Albert... 489 00:32:56,675 --> 00:33:03,082 and didn't want to be called a consort and he wanted to be an individual in his own right. 490 00:33:03,115 --> 00:33:06,218 And if you say anything about Prince Philip, it's certainly that he's an individual. 491 00:33:06,252 --> 00:33:10,489 I think that perhaps some of the queen's character that she has today... 492 00:33:10,522 --> 00:33:13,692 because she's very funny and can be incredibly waspish. 493 00:33:13,725 --> 00:33:17,396 I think a lot of that sort of comes from being around... 494 00:33:17,429 --> 00:33:21,067 someone as strong as Prince Philip. 495 00:33:21,100 --> 00:33:24,436 And it's an enduring love she has for him. 496 00:33:24,470 --> 00:33:26,305 I think he would have been so different... 497 00:33:26,338 --> 00:33:28,674 to Princess Elizabeth herself. 498 00:33:28,707 --> 00:33:33,079 And you know, in many happy marriages, that is the key. 499 00:33:33,112 --> 00:33:36,482 It's the differences between people that make it work. 500 00:33:36,515 --> 00:33:40,419 And I think-- that's how I think what has been the glue... 501 00:33:40,452 --> 00:33:44,056 that has held that marriage together so well. 502 00:33:44,090 --> 00:33:48,327 All too often, I fear Prince Philip has had to listen to me speaking. 503 00:33:50,662 --> 00:33:54,300 He is someone who doesn't take easily to compliments. 504 00:33:54,333 --> 00:33:59,138 But he has quite simply been my strength and stay all these years. 505 00:33:59,171 --> 00:34:02,441 I remember a few years ago, I went to the theater with them one evening... 506 00:34:02,474 --> 00:34:05,844 and sat in the royal box with them and the interval came... 507 00:34:05,877 --> 00:34:08,480 and I came out and joined the interval. 508 00:34:08,514 --> 00:34:12,218 I walked with the queen and I walked by and obviously with the Duke of Edinburgh... 509 00:34:12,251 --> 00:34:16,422 the queen went first and she was introduced to all sorts of celebrities during the interval. 510 00:34:16,455 --> 00:34:19,825 And I stood at the side of the room with the Duke of Edinburgh. 511 00:34:19,858 --> 00:34:24,230 And he looked across the crowded room towards the queen, who is quite a small woman. 512 00:34:24,263 --> 00:34:28,434 And she was surrounded by people meeting her and bowing and shaking her hand. 513 00:34:28,467 --> 00:34:31,303 And he leaned against the wall and he was holding a drink... 514 00:34:31,337 --> 00:34:33,439 and he caught her eye. 515 00:34:33,472 --> 00:34:36,842 And across the crowded room, she smiled at him. 516 00:34:36,875 --> 00:34:40,312 He merely lifted his glass and toasted her. 517 00:34:40,346 --> 00:34:42,314 I thought, "Yes, of course." 518 00:34:42,348 --> 00:34:47,419 There is some special relationship between these two people. 519 00:34:58,697 --> 00:35:04,370 The king's unexpected death changed everything, not only for Elizabeth, but for Philip, too. 520 00:35:12,478 --> 00:35:15,714 As a couple, they had enjoyed a blissful existence in Malta... 521 00:35:15,747 --> 00:35:20,752 where the Duke of Edinburgh was then based as an officer in the Royal Navy. 522 00:35:20,786 --> 00:35:24,256 And their first tour, so to speak... 523 00:35:24,290 --> 00:35:29,261 was brought to an abrupt halt when they heard news of the king's death. 524 00:35:29,295 --> 00:35:32,531 Where in Kenya, of course, it was the Duke of Edinburgh that broke the news... 525 00:35:32,564 --> 00:35:37,736 to Princess Elizabeth and understandably she was devastated. 526 00:35:37,769 --> 00:35:40,772 You get this extraordinary vision of the queen coming down the steps... 527 00:35:40,806 --> 00:35:46,278 to meet all these ancient ministers like Winston Churchill, born in 1874... 528 00:35:46,312 --> 00:35:48,480 who'd served in Queen Victoria's army. 529 00:35:48,514 --> 00:35:51,850 A junior minister under Edward the 7th, who was then her prime minister. 530 00:35:51,883 --> 00:35:56,788 Atlee and Edon and Mountbatton and the Duke of Gloucester and all these other figures... 531 00:35:56,822 --> 00:36:00,392 that were standing there and the old cars that came to meet her. 532 00:36:00,426 --> 00:36:05,231 and she arrives back into her country to take over the reigns of being sovereign. 533 00:36:05,264 --> 00:36:09,201 From that moment when she stepped out onto the runway back in Britain... 534 00:36:09,235 --> 00:36:11,703 people were bowing to her and she was the new queen... 535 00:36:11,737 --> 00:36:15,307 and for both of them, it really brought to an abrupt end... 536 00:36:15,341 --> 00:36:19,345 what had been as normal a marriage as possible for a royal couple... 537 00:36:19,378 --> 00:36:21,613 and they were suddenly thrust into the limelight. 538 00:36:23,849 --> 00:36:26,418 And it was a mortal blow to Prince Philip... 539 00:36:26,452 --> 00:36:31,557 because he realized that family life as he knew it was over. 540 00:36:31,590 --> 00:36:34,593 I mean, he realized it in a way before she did. 541 00:36:34,626 --> 00:36:37,496 The enormity of the situation hit him. 542 00:36:37,529 --> 00:36:42,334 Suddenly she's queen and she can't be the wife anymore. 543 00:36:42,368 --> 00:36:44,870 The mother, she can't be the mother anymore. 544 00:36:44,903 --> 00:36:49,575 I mean, there was just, she really had very little time to be with her children. 545 00:36:49,608 --> 00:36:53,912 So Prince Philip, in a way, sort of became the house husband. 546 00:36:53,945 --> 00:36:59,251 From 1952, as soon as she became queen, she was off on lots of royal tours... 547 00:36:59,285 --> 00:37:01,487 and, in the early days, they were very lengthy. 548 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,289 They often went by ship. 549 00:37:03,322 --> 00:37:07,759 So I think there was a distance between her and her children... 550 00:37:07,793 --> 00:37:10,429 that hadn't applied in her own case. 551 00:37:12,498 --> 00:37:14,933 Basically, Prince Philip, in a way, lost his wife. 552 00:37:14,966 --> 00:37:18,670 Lost his wife to the role of duty. 553 00:37:23,975 --> 00:37:25,944 What would have struck journalists at the time... 554 00:37:25,977 --> 00:37:31,317 is her relative age and innocence in the scheme of things. 555 00:37:31,350 --> 00:37:35,921 She was certainly a very well-read and well-schooled woman... 556 00:37:35,954 --> 00:37:38,790 of her tender years in those days. 557 00:37:38,824 --> 00:37:42,728 That said, she had no experience really at all... 558 00:37:42,761 --> 00:37:46,298 of even married life, let alone being queen. 559 00:37:46,332 --> 00:37:49,368 I think people would have wanted to know how she felt she was gonna cope... 560 00:37:49,401 --> 00:37:51,703 with such a huge burden on her shoulders... 561 00:37:51,737 --> 00:37:57,008 at such a young age when she's just starting out in her marriage and starting a family. 562 00:37:57,042 --> 00:38:00,612 If you lose a parent, any age is difficult. 563 00:38:00,646 --> 00:38:04,550 If you're going to be the next monarch... 564 00:38:04,583 --> 00:38:07,486 if you know that your father dies and you're going to step into the job. 565 00:38:07,519 --> 00:38:12,958 One can't begin to imagine the sort of weight of responsibility... 566 00:38:12,991 --> 00:38:17,596 the weight of apprehension and suspension that would give you. 567 00:38:17,629 --> 00:38:24,370 So, I think that when her father died, it was a cataclysm both personally and then... 568 00:38:24,403 --> 00:38:28,840 she had to face the fact that she was going to be the monarch of the United Kingdom. 569 00:38:28,874 --> 00:38:31,977 There was anxiety to start with. 570 00:38:32,010 --> 00:38:37,816 When George the 6th died so young, a father figure... 571 00:38:37,849 --> 00:38:39,785 how could this young girl cope? 572 00:38:39,818 --> 00:38:45,557 And then it was actually Winston Churchill who in his speech... 573 00:38:45,591 --> 00:38:48,360 of mourning and farewell to George the 6th... 574 00:38:48,394 --> 00:38:52,531 and welcomed the new queen, pointed out that here she was... 575 00:38:52,564 --> 00:38:56,568 modern Elizabeth coming to the throne at the same age... 576 00:38:56,602 --> 00:39:01,707 as the first Queen Elizabeth in Tudor times. 577 00:39:01,740 --> 00:39:06,445 And here perhaps Britain and the whole Commonwealth... 578 00:39:06,478 --> 00:39:09,615 had the chance of a modern Elizabethan Age. 579 00:39:09,648 --> 00:39:12,751 ( ROYAL MUSIC PLAYING ) 580 00:39:31,069 --> 00:39:37,609 I think the coronation, again coinciding with the roll out of TV around the world... 581 00:39:37,643 --> 00:39:41,647 meant that it was one of the first and biggest televised events of its kind. 582 00:39:43,615 --> 00:39:47,085 Television was just taking off. 583 00:39:47,118 --> 00:39:51,189 Low and behold, we have the coronation in 1953. 584 00:39:51,222 --> 00:39:53,892 So many people acquired their television sets for that. 585 00:39:53,925 --> 00:39:55,561 My family did. 586 00:39:55,594 --> 00:39:58,664 We sat in the house. My dad bought a television. 587 00:39:58,697 --> 00:40:01,467 The neighbors came around as in so many other cases. 588 00:40:01,500 --> 00:40:04,770 And really, that set television going as well. 589 00:40:12,010 --> 00:40:15,781 I think it was very much the notion that this should be a world event... 590 00:40:15,814 --> 00:40:19,217 and that everybody in the Commonwealth should be able to enjoy... 591 00:40:19,250 --> 00:40:23,622 what was an occasion where they would be seeing their queen crowned. 592 00:40:27,926 --> 00:40:33,231 Madam, is Your Majesty willing to take the oath? I am willing. 593 00:40:33,264 --> 00:40:39,771 She was very worried that she might make mistakes that would be recorded live on television. 594 00:40:39,805 --> 00:40:44,643 According to the respective laws and customs. 595 00:40:44,676 --> 00:40:47,979 I solemnly promise so to do. 596 00:40:48,013 --> 00:40:52,117 There's also several very emotional private moments in the service... 597 00:40:52,150 --> 00:40:54,553 like when she took communion. 598 00:40:54,586 --> 00:40:58,857 Another moment when she has to bear most of the upper part of her breast... 599 00:40:58,890 --> 00:41:02,594 and have the coronation oil anointed there. 600 00:41:02,628 --> 00:41:05,163 She didn't want that to be shown on television. 601 00:41:08,567 --> 00:41:10,869 The people wanted to see royalty. 602 00:41:10,902 --> 00:41:14,873 They wanted to not just be able... 603 00:41:14,906 --> 00:41:18,510 to watch them physically in London... 604 00:41:18,544 --> 00:41:21,980 but I think they really needed to see this happening. 605 00:41:22,013 --> 00:41:26,885 God save the queen! God save the queen! 606 00:41:26,918 --> 00:41:29,788 God save the queen! 607 00:41:29,821 --> 00:41:33,024 And the BBC really pushed... 608 00:41:33,058 --> 00:41:37,796 for the coronation to be televised. 609 00:41:37,829 --> 00:41:41,733 And it wasn't the queen that said no, or indeed the queen that said yes. 610 00:41:41,767 --> 00:41:44,903 It was actually her advisors were very sniffy about it... 611 00:41:44,936 --> 00:41:47,673 and said no, no, no, it can't possibly be the case... 612 00:41:47,706 --> 00:41:52,578 because they'll be men with cloth caps in palms, you know, they won't be deferring. 613 00:41:52,611 --> 00:41:53,945 There was a national outcry. 614 00:41:53,979 --> 00:41:56,214 You know, people said look, you know... 615 00:41:56,247 --> 00:41:59,250 it says the queen should be crowned in the sight of all the people... 616 00:41:59,284 --> 00:42:02,053 and these days people are watching their tellies. 617 00:42:09,728 --> 00:42:15,033 It was televised, as we know, and of course, it was a huge, huge success... 618 00:42:15,066 --> 00:42:17,836 and a sort of bringing together of the Commonwealth... 619 00:42:17,869 --> 00:42:23,041 and the whole world, in fact. 620 00:42:23,074 --> 00:42:27,913 I think for the queen, it was a very momentous occasion in her life. 621 00:42:27,946 --> 00:42:32,250 Not just because of the world was following, but because she's a deeply religious woman... 622 00:42:32,283 --> 00:42:37,022 and making her vow before God in such austere circumstances... 623 00:42:37,055 --> 00:42:41,259 to serve her country was really a defining moment in her life. 624 00:42:41,292 --> 00:42:45,330 She'd always had a strong sense of duty... 625 00:42:45,363 --> 00:42:47,198 but that became even stronger... 626 00:42:47,232 --> 00:42:54,039 and, you know, her coronation was a religious service... 627 00:42:54,072 --> 00:42:56,041 as much as anything else... 628 00:42:56,074 --> 00:43:02,180 and she was very much at the center of religious ceremony... 629 00:43:02,213 --> 00:43:06,818 presided over by the archbishop, why, her archbishop and all the rest of it... 630 00:43:06,852 --> 00:43:13,659 and I think that what really changed her life totally... 631 00:43:13,692 --> 00:43:17,696 at the coron-- at the, first of all, the accession... 632 00:43:17,729 --> 00:43:21,633 even more so after the coronation in 1953... 633 00:43:21,667 --> 00:43:24,736 was the sense that she was on her own... 634 00:43:24,770 --> 00:43:28,907 she was chosen by God, if you like. 635 00:43:33,912 --> 00:43:39,184 ( JAZZ MUSIC PLAYING ) 636 00:43:39,217 --> 00:43:43,955 Very soon after the coronation, the euphoria of that great event... 637 00:43:43,989 --> 00:43:47,926 was overshadowed by the Margaret Townsend affair. 638 00:43:50,395 --> 00:43:54,199 The queen was in conflict there, because as head of the Church of England... 639 00:43:54,232 --> 00:43:59,004 she could not really permit her sister to marry a divorced man. 640 00:43:59,037 --> 00:44:01,172 But as the sister of Princess Margaret... 641 00:44:01,206 --> 00:44:03,742 she obviously was very keen that Princess Margaret should be happy. 642 00:44:03,775 --> 00:44:08,046 And it wasn't easy. 643 00:44:08,079 --> 00:44:12,250 In the 1950's, it was a very different period from today. 644 00:44:12,283 --> 00:44:14,820 The family meant a great deal. 645 00:44:14,853 --> 00:44:18,456 Divorce was terrible. 646 00:44:18,489 --> 00:44:22,928 The idea of going out for the married man was frowned upon. 647 00:44:22,961 --> 00:44:27,866 A married man with children, who was going to divorce... 648 00:44:27,899 --> 00:44:30,335 to marry a royal princess? 649 00:44:30,368 --> 00:44:32,103 It was just unheard of. 650 00:44:32,137 --> 00:44:37,042 Probably the queen just didn't want to believe... 651 00:44:37,075 --> 00:44:42,814 even if she thought it might be possible. 652 00:44:42,848 --> 00:44:47,786 What happened in that particular situation was that they separated the couple. 653 00:44:47,819 --> 00:44:53,091 They sent Peter Townsend off to Brussels as an attaché... 654 00:44:53,124 --> 00:44:56,461 and by the time he returned in 1955, when the general public... 655 00:44:56,494 --> 00:45:00,431 all getting tremendously excited at the thought that Princess Margaret was now 25... 656 00:45:00,465 --> 00:45:03,101 and could some extent do what she wished. 657 00:45:05,070 --> 00:45:10,842 In fact, I think, no, the path of love had, as it were, run through... 658 00:45:10,876 --> 00:45:14,479 and by the time Princess Margaret realized there was a possibility... 659 00:45:14,512 --> 00:45:17,482 of her civilest allowance ceasing... 660 00:45:17,515 --> 00:45:21,286 and possibly losing her royal titles and things, it was over. 661 00:45:21,319 --> 00:45:25,390 ANNOUNCER (V.O.): Princess Margaret's personal message issued from Clarence House. 662 00:45:25,423 --> 00:45:27,793 I would like it to be known that I have decided... 663 00:45:27,826 --> 00:45:30,996 not to marry Group Captain Peter Townsend. 664 00:45:31,029 --> 00:45:34,032 I am deeply grateful for the concern of all those... 665 00:45:34,065 --> 00:45:36,835 who have constantly prayed for my happiness. 666 00:45:39,470 --> 00:45:44,776 Because of their closeness, the queen during the whole Group Captain Peter Townsend period... 667 00:45:44,810 --> 00:45:48,479 was very supportive of Margaret, because it was really their mother... 668 00:45:48,513 --> 00:45:51,783 who they didn't want to let in on the notion of the relationship. 669 00:45:51,817 --> 00:45:54,319 And I think Elizabeth and Philip counseled Margaret... 670 00:45:54,352 --> 00:45:56,187 as much as they could through that... 671 00:45:56,221 --> 00:45:59,825 and it's sometimes been misreported that it was the queen... 672 00:45:59,858 --> 00:46:02,060 that said that this relationship couldn't be allowed. 673 00:46:02,093 --> 00:46:05,330 Actually, she was devastated that when push came to shove... 674 00:46:05,363 --> 00:46:09,567 it was the government who said actually we can't allow you to marry this man. 675 00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:13,138 And I think she had a lot of sympathy for Margaret... 676 00:46:13,171 --> 00:46:16,174 because after all, the queen knew what true love was. 677 00:46:16,207 --> 00:46:17,976 She had married the man of her dreams. 678 00:46:18,009 --> 00:46:23,281 She obviously played a part in it, an important part. 679 00:46:23,314 --> 00:46:26,885 And it could not have been done without her agreement. 680 00:46:26,918 --> 00:46:29,220 Problem the queen has, I think, often had... 681 00:46:29,254 --> 00:46:32,924 is as it were, the role of the queen as queen... 682 00:46:32,958 --> 00:46:35,894 and the role of the queen as a person. 683 00:46:35,927 --> 00:46:38,363 I mean, in some extent, they're two different people... 684 00:46:38,396 --> 00:46:43,134 and the queen has been known sometimes to turn to a private secretary... 685 00:46:43,168 --> 00:46:47,272 who produces something for her to look at and to ask her the question... 686 00:46:47,305 --> 00:46:49,474 "What should the queen do?" 687 00:46:54,545 --> 00:46:56,948 At the beginning of the queen's reign... 688 00:46:56,982 --> 00:47:00,952 the massive tour of the Commonwealth that she undertook... 689 00:47:00,986 --> 00:47:05,056 the best part of a year in the newly built yacht The Britannia... 690 00:47:05,090 --> 00:47:09,560 was obviously partly a celebration of her ascension... 691 00:47:09,594 --> 00:47:14,365 but it was mainly a thank you to the British Commonwealth... 692 00:47:14,399 --> 00:47:19,170 to Australia, New Zealand, Canada, South Africa, India... 693 00:47:19,204 --> 00:47:25,176 the African countries that had contributed so many men and lives to the war effort... 694 00:47:25,210 --> 00:47:28,046 against Germany and Japan. 695 00:47:32,550 --> 00:47:36,587 When the queen came to the throne, we still had the British Empire. 696 00:47:36,621 --> 00:47:38,924 It was very much part of all of our lives. 697 00:47:38,957 --> 00:47:41,426 I remember, I was young, but I can remember it. 698 00:47:41,459 --> 00:47:45,463 Hard to think of it now, but we had influence all over the globe. 699 00:47:45,496 --> 00:47:50,201 Real influence, and the queen was queen of all those countries, as well. 700 00:47:50,235 --> 00:47:56,674 It became the Commonwealth, a much looser association of mostly friendly countries. 701 00:47:56,707 --> 00:48:00,111 The queen has always taken that extremely seriously. 702 00:48:00,145 --> 00:48:03,915 Of all the jobs that she does, I think possibly she would say herself... 703 00:48:03,949 --> 00:48:07,218 the two that really matter to her are being head of the church... 704 00:48:07,252 --> 00:48:10,121 because she takes her religion extremely seriously... 705 00:48:10,155 --> 00:48:13,058 and being head of the Commonwealth. 706 00:48:16,394 --> 00:48:18,663 I'd say that the queen has adopted the Commonwealth... 707 00:48:18,696 --> 00:48:21,299 almost as one of her sort of prime causes. 708 00:48:21,332 --> 00:48:24,702 Rather like a prime minister with a new government. 709 00:48:24,735 --> 00:48:27,672 Identifies an area that he wishes to be identified with. 710 00:48:27,705 --> 00:48:32,043 It's true to say that's what the queen has considered to be very important. 711 00:48:32,077 --> 00:48:36,014 And she never misses these Commonwealth heads of government meetings. 712 00:48:36,047 --> 00:48:38,316 You know, she has prime ministers all over the world... 713 00:48:38,349 --> 00:48:41,987 and she has said that sometimes when she goes to these meetings... 714 00:48:42,020 --> 00:48:44,189 she feels a bit like a doctor. 715 00:48:44,222 --> 00:48:47,192 She sees four prime ministers in the morning and four in the afternoon. 716 00:48:47,225 --> 00:48:49,627 And they all tell her their different problems. 717 00:48:49,660 --> 00:48:53,398 And who better to talk to than her, because she's not gonna tell us what they say. 718 00:48:53,431 --> 00:48:58,636 And equally, of course, she's known all their predecessors way back into the 1940's... 719 00:48:58,669 --> 00:49:03,108 before a great deal of them were born. 720 00:49:03,141 --> 00:49:08,179 And the queen doesn't mind if these countries wish to not have her as queen any more... 721 00:49:08,213 --> 00:49:10,048 as long as they remain in the Commonwealth. 722 00:49:10,081 --> 00:49:12,683 That's the thing she's most keen on. 723 00:49:12,717 --> 00:49:14,952 Likes to keep the link going. 724 00:49:34,439 --> 00:49:40,278 Princess Elizabeth as princess and queen has always been guided by a great sense of duty. 725 00:49:40,311 --> 00:49:45,683 When she became crowned queen, one of the symbols of authority... 726 00:49:45,716 --> 00:49:49,254 that she took was what's called the Wedding Ring of England. 727 00:49:49,287 --> 00:49:51,689 She considered herself and she considers herself... 728 00:49:51,722 --> 00:49:57,495 married to England, Britain, Australia, the British Commonwealth... 729 00:49:57,528 --> 00:50:00,031 all the countries that acknowledge her. 730 00:50:00,065 --> 00:50:04,269 And that, for her, is the most important thing. 731 00:50:04,302 --> 00:50:08,073 I don't think she has yet seen the film called The Queen... 732 00:50:08,106 --> 00:50:10,075 because she's not interested in herself. 733 00:50:10,108 --> 00:50:11,476 She doesn't read about herself. 734 00:50:11,509 --> 00:50:15,113 She is not preoccupied with herself. 735 00:50:15,146 --> 00:50:18,583 She doesn't belong to the me-me-me generation. 736 00:50:18,616 --> 00:50:22,053 She isn't touchy-feely as a human being. 737 00:50:22,087 --> 00:50:24,822 There are no photographs in existence... 738 00:50:24,855 --> 00:50:29,427 of the queen and Prince Philip walking along, holding hands. 739 00:50:29,460 --> 00:50:31,362 They reflect their generation. 740 00:50:31,396 --> 00:50:34,499 That's not what they want you to see. 741 00:50:34,532 --> 00:50:38,203 You may want it, it may reflect what you were looking for in royalty. 742 00:50:38,236 --> 00:50:40,471 That's not what they're going to give you. 743 00:50:40,505 --> 00:50:46,144 I think there are two big influences on the queen's approach to her job. 744 00:50:46,177 --> 00:50:50,648 One was the example of what happened with her uncle, Edward the 8th... 745 00:50:50,681 --> 00:50:53,751 king for such a short time, never even crowned. 746 00:50:53,784 --> 00:50:57,388 I think that would have instilled in her the idea... 747 00:50:57,422 --> 00:51:00,491 that you do not walk away from what is your duty. 748 00:51:00,525 --> 00:51:03,428 What her father had done, she carried on... 749 00:51:03,461 --> 00:51:07,365 and I think succeeded even more, if you like. 750 00:51:07,398 --> 00:51:13,204 She was even more taken to people's hearts than her father had been. 751 00:51:13,238 --> 00:51:16,741 It's wonderful. She's our monarch and for her to take the time... 752 00:51:16,774 --> 00:51:20,311 to speak to me is wonderful. 753 00:51:21,912 --> 00:51:24,215 I can't believe it. 754 00:51:24,249 --> 00:51:28,453 I made it. 755 00:51:28,486 --> 00:51:31,656 One of the most interesting things I ever heard about the queen... 756 00:51:31,689 --> 00:51:36,194 said to me by one of her private secretaries, and it was this. 757 00:51:36,227 --> 00:51:39,897 That the queen sees it as her duty to walk at the pace... 758 00:51:39,930 --> 00:51:43,468 of the slowest person in the land. 759 00:51:43,501 --> 00:51:48,139 So that nobody in the country feels left behind. 760 00:51:48,173 --> 00:51:50,308 So there is the Duke of Edinburgh, thrusting, going forward. 761 00:51:50,341 --> 00:51:52,810 Trying to do this, trying to do that. Trying to change this. 762 00:51:52,843 --> 00:51:59,684 And there's the queen, quite steadily walking along at the pace of the slowest person. 763 00:51:59,717 --> 00:52:01,852 Feeling, okay, this is the way it is. 764 00:52:01,886 --> 00:52:04,422 Everyone should be included in this. 765 00:52:04,455 --> 00:52:07,725 And so the queen has actually been hugely inclusive... 766 00:52:07,758 --> 00:52:10,895 in the way that she has run things. 767 00:52:18,569 --> 00:52:24,642 I think the strength of the queen is she's seen it all come and go. 768 00:52:24,675 --> 00:52:29,714 There is no doubt at all that she had a special feeling for Winston Churchill. 769 00:52:29,747 --> 00:52:32,283 None whatsoever... 770 00:52:32,317 --> 00:52:36,354 because she'd known him since she was literally a little girl. 771 00:52:36,387 --> 00:52:38,656 She sat on Winston Churchill's knee. 772 00:52:38,689 --> 00:52:41,192 He was a friend of her parents. 773 00:52:41,226 --> 00:52:44,662 Her father went through the Second World War with Winston Churchill. 774 00:52:44,695 --> 00:52:47,965 She was a young girl in her mid-20s when she became queen... 775 00:52:47,998 --> 00:52:52,270 and Winston Churchill, the grand old man of European politics... 776 00:52:52,303 --> 00:52:54,239 was her first prime minister. 777 00:52:54,272 --> 00:52:57,475 He was the special prime minister. 778 00:52:57,508 --> 00:53:02,447 Since then, I think, she's seen them come and go... 779 00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,383 and been very skillful... 780 00:53:05,416 --> 00:53:10,355 at not letting them become too intimate with her. 781 00:53:12,657 --> 00:53:14,959 James Callahan, a British prime minister said to me once... 782 00:53:14,992 --> 00:53:19,597 "You know, royalty, they offer you friendliness, not friendship. 783 00:53:19,630 --> 00:53:21,899 "There is a difference." 784 00:53:21,932 --> 00:53:24,735 I've worked for a succession of prime ministers... 785 00:53:24,769 --> 00:53:29,474 who have enormously valued the-- 786 00:53:29,507 --> 00:53:32,743 what they get from their weekly audience with the queen... 787 00:53:32,777 --> 00:53:37,782 in terms of very penetrating and shrewd questioning... 788 00:53:37,815 --> 00:53:42,387 and expressions of judgment and view. 789 00:53:42,420 --> 00:53:43,888 The idea has always been... 790 00:53:43,921 --> 00:53:46,824 that at least once a week, on a Tuesday... 791 00:53:46,857 --> 00:53:49,394 the prime minister makes time, clears his diary... 792 00:53:49,427 --> 00:53:52,463 and goes over to Buckingham Palace to talk to the queen. 793 00:53:52,497 --> 00:53:56,434 The prime minister just sits and talks in total confidence... 794 00:53:56,467 --> 00:53:59,504 totally openly with the queen about what's going on. 795 00:53:59,537 --> 00:54:04,342 She listens, she does much more listening than anything else. 796 00:54:04,375 --> 00:54:07,278 A few years ago, I found myself at a private party in a corner... 797 00:54:07,312 --> 00:54:09,480 making conversation with the queen. 798 00:54:09,514 --> 00:54:14,952 And I found myself talking about the prime minister of the day, John Major. 799 00:54:14,985 --> 00:54:17,288 And I found myself saying to the queen... 800 00:54:17,322 --> 00:54:19,290 "Oh, you had an audience with him today." 801 00:54:19,324 --> 00:54:22,960 There was a recession at the time and I said... 802 00:54:22,993 --> 00:54:24,962 "Do you know it's very bad, the recession?" 803 00:54:24,995 --> 00:54:26,864 She said, "Oh, yes, very bad." 804 00:54:26,897 --> 00:54:30,668 And she said, "Do you know how I've been queen since 1952?" 805 00:54:30,701 --> 00:54:32,703 I said, "I do know that, Your Majesty." 806 00:54:32,737 --> 00:54:34,972 She said, "You know, I've had 13 prime ministers." 807 00:54:35,005 --> 00:54:37,508 I said, "Oh, yes, I know that, too, Your Majesty." 808 00:54:37,542 --> 00:54:40,511 "You know, we have one of these recessions every few years... 809 00:54:40,545 --> 00:54:46,651 "and I'm not sure any of my prime ministers knows what to do about it." 810 00:54:46,684 --> 00:54:50,388 She's very dry, the queen. She's got a very good sense of humor. 811 00:54:50,421 --> 00:54:54,525 Behind it, she's not as much of an actress as the Queen Mother. 812 00:54:54,559 --> 00:54:58,429 I would say that if you succeeded in making the queen laugh... 813 00:54:58,463 --> 00:55:01,866 you can be genuinely 100% certain that you have amused her. 814 00:55:01,899 --> 00:55:05,002 She is a very amusing person. 815 00:55:05,035 --> 00:55:08,072 People always think the queen is looking rather serious... 816 00:55:08,105 --> 00:55:10,808 and this is simply because she's a bit older now... 817 00:55:10,841 --> 00:55:14,945 and she's got one of those faces that looks solemn when it's in repose. 818 00:55:14,979 --> 00:55:18,516 But when she smiles, her face is absolutely transformed... 819 00:55:18,549 --> 00:55:23,421 and she looks wonderful, radiant, but she's also very amusing... 820 00:55:23,454 --> 00:55:27,525 and does impressions, some impressions of individuals... 821 00:55:27,558 --> 00:55:33,898 but she does accents, she can go to a place and come away and do you impressions of people. 822 00:55:33,931 --> 00:55:37,535 When I just first joined majesty in 1983... 823 00:55:37,568 --> 00:55:41,005 the queen and Prince Philip did a tour of Jordan... 824 00:55:41,038 --> 00:55:43,474 and I remember going on it. 825 00:55:43,508 --> 00:55:44,775 The queen said to me, "What do you find... 826 00:55:44,809 --> 00:55:46,744 "to write about in your magazine?" 827 00:55:46,777 --> 00:55:49,414 And I said, "Oh, your family, ma'am. 828 00:55:49,447 --> 00:55:53,050 And she said, "Well, I'll use it as a diary to know what they're all doing." 829 00:55:53,083 --> 00:55:57,455 One story I rather like about the queen was that she always wanted to see a supermarket. 830 00:55:57,488 --> 00:56:01,058 And once in Norfolk, she was put on her sort of house gear and her head scarf... 831 00:56:01,091 --> 00:56:03,494 and she had claimed that she hadn't been to a supermarket... 832 00:56:03,528 --> 00:56:05,596 other than when she'd be opening ones... 833 00:56:05,630 --> 00:56:07,998 so she wanted to go along and say she was walking up and down the aisles... 834 00:56:08,032 --> 00:56:11,902 and a little old lady spotted her there, went up to her and said... 835 00:56:11,936 --> 00:56:15,640 "My dear, I must tell you, you look awfully like the queen." 836 00:56:15,673 --> 00:56:19,143 To which the queen replied, "Thank you, that's very reassuring." 837 00:56:19,176 --> 00:56:20,878 That's very much the queen. 838 00:56:25,516 --> 00:56:29,053 People look to the monarchy, especially in tight... 839 00:56:29,086 --> 00:56:32,156 because they are above politics. 840 00:56:32,189 --> 00:56:35,860 They're not there because we've elected them there. 841 00:56:35,893 --> 00:56:37,995 Maybe they don't even want to be there... 842 00:56:38,028 --> 00:56:41,932 but they're there and they've devoted their lives to duty... 843 00:56:41,966 --> 00:56:44,068 Which is really important that we see that. 844 00:56:44,101 --> 00:56:46,203 Which is why the behavior of some of the young royals... 845 00:56:46,236 --> 00:56:49,607 in the 80's was so damaging to the monarchy. 846 00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:52,076 But I think because they're above politics... 847 00:56:52,109 --> 00:56:54,912 and because we know people like Prince Charles really care. 848 00:56:54,945 --> 00:56:58,649 He does really care about this country and its people. 849 00:56:58,683 --> 00:57:00,918 We want to look up to them. 850 00:57:00,951 --> 00:57:05,222 It's really no secret that she has her differences with Prince Charles. 851 00:57:05,255 --> 00:57:08,826 I mean, she loves him, obviously as her eldest son... 852 00:57:08,859 --> 00:57:14,499 but she feels that he is espousing of quite controversial causes. 853 00:57:14,532 --> 00:57:16,467 He's dangerous for the monarchy. 854 00:57:16,501 --> 00:57:18,803 Now Prince Charles, in his own defense, would say... 855 00:57:18,836 --> 00:57:20,905 Well, this is only while he's Prince of Wales. 856 00:57:20,938 --> 00:57:25,009 When he becomes monarch in due course, all of that would end. 857 00:57:25,042 --> 00:57:28,913 And he totally understands the impartiality... 858 00:57:28,946 --> 00:57:31,949 that a modern constitutional monarch has to have. 859 00:57:34,218 --> 00:57:35,986 I think when you look at Charles and Andrew... 860 00:57:36,020 --> 00:57:38,155 you can probably make comparisons with William and Harry... 861 00:57:38,188 --> 00:57:41,025 in that Andrew's the spare to the heir, as Harry is... 862 00:57:41,058 --> 00:57:43,160 and they can both get away with a bit more... 863 00:57:43,193 --> 00:57:46,163 and they might be labeled party princes or playboy princes... 864 00:57:46,196 --> 00:57:49,266 because they haven't got the burden of responsibility on their shoulders. 865 00:57:49,299 --> 00:57:51,068 They aren't gonna be the future king. 866 00:57:51,101 --> 00:57:53,771 Andrew seems to have an extraordinary place in our heart... 867 00:57:53,804 --> 00:57:56,941 that he can do no wrong. 868 00:57:56,974 --> 00:57:59,510 Or if he does, she forgives him. 869 00:57:59,544 --> 00:58:02,847 He also had a very gung-ho image in that he was out in the Falkland's... 870 00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:05,015 and flying helicopters and generally being quite macho... 871 00:58:05,049 --> 00:58:08,819 and it fitted in with that whole Top Gun image. 872 00:58:08,853 --> 00:58:12,022 He had a bit of a Hollywood image at the time... 873 00:58:12,056 --> 00:58:14,659 and it was easy to label him as Randy Andy... 874 00:58:14,692 --> 00:58:17,628 because of the excitement that title might bring to the royal family... 875 00:58:17,662 --> 00:58:19,597 as far as the press were concerned anyway. 876 00:58:19,630 --> 00:58:23,067 There's sometimes a perception of aloofness and distance... 877 00:58:23,100 --> 00:58:24,969 which was certainly bridged-- 878 00:58:25,002 --> 00:58:29,674 Now I think I would twist that slightly and say to you... 879 00:58:29,707 --> 00:58:35,813 that perhaps that's the way that other people think we want to be. 880 00:58:38,148 --> 00:58:42,720 Rather than necessarily the way that we would choose to be. 881 00:58:44,088 --> 00:58:45,790 Do you understand the difference? 882 00:58:45,823 --> 00:58:51,095 Yes, I do, but what is then preventing you from being that? 883 00:58:53,263 --> 00:58:58,969 Probably, again, other peoples' perceptions, rather than our own desire... 884 00:58:59,003 --> 00:59:05,342 because when you actually see and understand and feel... 885 00:59:05,375 --> 00:59:08,746 what it is that, for instance, you've seen what Prince William is doing... 886 00:59:08,779 --> 00:59:12,249 in Australia and New Zealand. 887 00:59:14,384 --> 00:59:18,723 He was able to do that. 888 00:59:18,756 --> 00:59:22,159 The difficulty is being able to do that all the time... 889 00:59:22,192 --> 00:59:24,662 because there are times when things have to be more formal. 890 00:59:24,695 --> 00:59:28,332 I, for one, think that the royal family is relevant. 891 00:59:28,365 --> 00:59:31,636 I think it's relevant probably more so in the 21st century... 892 00:59:31,669 --> 00:59:35,706 than we really either want to or realize. 893 00:59:35,740 --> 00:59:41,912 When it comes to Andrew and Edward, these are her indulged younger sons. 894 00:59:44,348 --> 00:59:47,952 And she's fond of them... 895 00:59:47,985 --> 00:59:51,989 and perhaps she's less critical of them than she is of Charles. 896 00:59:55,259 --> 00:59:58,929 I think everybody that saw It's a Royal Knockout... 897 00:59:58,963 --> 01:00:04,969 realized that it was an incredibly undignified thing to do... 898 01:00:05,002 --> 01:00:09,173 and although it made great television, it was almost embarrassing... 899 01:00:09,206 --> 01:00:15,012 watching the way that some of the members of the royal family behaved. 900 01:00:15,045 --> 01:00:17,715 I mean, actually Diana wanted to do it and Prince Charles wouldn't let her. 901 01:00:17,748 --> 01:00:19,950 He was quite right. 902 01:00:19,984 --> 01:00:22,052 And of course, Edward came out of it very badly... 903 01:00:22,086 --> 01:00:24,922 because he really did go into a sort of funk. 904 01:00:24,955 --> 01:00:26,090 Haven't you been watching it? 905 01:00:26,123 --> 01:00:27,324 Yes. 906 01:00:27,357 --> 01:00:28,893 Well, what did you think of it? 907 01:00:30,327 --> 01:00:32,797 ( PRESS LAUGHING ) 908 01:00:32,830 --> 01:00:34,765 Thanks. 909 01:00:38,002 --> 01:00:40,771 Well, Prince Edward didn't have a great press in those days... 910 01:00:40,805 --> 01:00:45,342 because I think he was very much in his elder brother's shadow as the youngest child. 911 01:00:45,375 --> 01:00:50,447 He didn't do very well in the Royal Marines and so was labeled soft... 912 01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:54,719 if not gay in some quarters, which was later denied by his wife... 913 01:00:54,752 --> 01:00:57,321 in the ill-fated interview she gave to the Fake Shake. 914 01:00:57,354 --> 01:00:59,690 Not knowing that he was undercover at the time. 915 01:00:59,724 --> 01:01:03,060 Headlined My Edward's Not Gay. 916 01:01:03,093 --> 01:01:08,298 to have his own endeavors...ed a 917 01:01:08,332 --> 01:01:12,436 and he ran odd in his production company it didn't do very well. 918 01:01:12,469 --> 01:01:18,809 I think the nail in the coffin was when he went and filmed Prince William at Eton. 919 01:01:18,843 --> 01:01:21,746 When he had been expressly told not to... 920 01:01:21,779 --> 01:01:26,917 and that really ended his career and the queen didn't want the bad publicity. 921 01:01:26,951 --> 01:01:31,021 On this particular occasion, we are celebrating somebody which was really an accident at birth. 922 01:01:31,055 --> 01:01:34,458 Over which I have no control. 923 01:01:34,491 --> 01:01:37,795 And for which I seriously owe one very important thank you... 924 01:01:37,828 --> 01:01:41,899 which is to my mother and father. 925 01:01:41,932 --> 01:01:45,502 I think people will say that Princess Anne is her biggest support... 926 01:01:45,535 --> 01:01:48,238 and that is both personally as her only daughter... 927 01:01:48,272 --> 01:01:50,274 but also in a professional sense... 928 01:01:50,307 --> 01:01:52,943 in that she's an absolute tireless workhorse... 929 01:01:52,977 --> 01:01:54,111 for the royal family. 930 01:01:54,144 --> 01:01:56,914 She carries out multiple engagements... 931 01:01:56,947 --> 01:01:58,482 most days of the week. 932 01:01:58,515 --> 01:02:02,419 And in that respect, she is the Forbes number one performer... 933 01:02:02,452 --> 01:02:05,055 and the queen really admires that in a daughter. 934 01:02:05,089 --> 01:02:07,992 I think probably Princess Anne is actually more like Prince Philip... 935 01:02:08,025 --> 01:02:11,195 than her mother in some other respects. 936 01:02:11,228 --> 01:02:14,398 She's also very straight talking and no nonsense. 937 01:02:14,431 --> 01:02:17,101 But I think the queen is close with all of her children. 938 01:02:25,142 --> 01:02:29,980 It's really her grandchildren on whom the queen focuses. 939 01:02:32,582 --> 01:02:35,019 She is a great matriarch, the queen. 940 01:02:35,052 --> 01:02:38,155 She loves having all the family around her... 941 01:02:38,188 --> 01:02:41,258 and that's why I had time at Sandringham at Christmas... 942 01:02:41,291 --> 01:02:44,394 and Balmoral in the summer. 943 01:02:44,428 --> 01:02:46,931 Very precious to her, because those are the times... 944 01:02:46,964 --> 01:02:51,468 when she can be a matriarch for a few weeks, at least. 945 01:02:59,844 --> 01:03:02,847 The royal family has reflected family life in general... 946 01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:08,085 because behind palace gates they are a normal family with normal problems and normal emotions. 947 01:03:08,118 --> 01:03:10,821 In fact, they're under more pressure really than the rest of us... 948 01:03:10,855 --> 01:03:14,859 because their moves are all scrutinized and if there's problems in the relationship... 949 01:03:14,892 --> 01:03:16,994 the cameras are there to pick it up... 950 01:03:17,027 --> 01:03:19,463 and that very much happened of course with Prince Charles and Diana. 951 01:03:44,321 --> 01:03:49,226 But the interesting thing about Diana Spencer, who became Princess Diana... 952 01:03:49,259 --> 01:03:54,298 was that she rather came out of nowhere, no one really spotted her... 953 01:03:54,331 --> 01:03:57,401 although she had some royal connections in her family... 954 01:03:57,434 --> 01:04:00,170 she wasn't the usual type of girlfriend... 955 01:04:00,204 --> 01:04:04,875 that I remember Prince Charles accompanying to places. 956 01:04:04,909 --> 01:04:10,614 A lot of his girlfriends had a past and we the press knew that Prince Charles had to find... 957 01:04:10,647 --> 01:04:15,552 at that time definitely, find someone who had no past. 958 01:04:15,585 --> 01:04:21,625 And then Lady Diana Spencer appeared, and you know, it was a gift to all of us. 959 01:04:21,658 --> 01:04:25,262 She was a young girl and quite naive at the time, as we know. 960 01:04:25,295 --> 01:04:27,531 Charles' parents...y Prince 961 01:04:27,564 --> 01:04:29,967 were relieved that he had decided to marry someone. 962 01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:34,638 He had quite a long period of bachelorhood where he couldn't seem to settle down... 963 01:04:34,671 --> 01:04:37,674 and it was actually attracting the wrong kind of headlines. 964 01:04:37,707 --> 01:04:41,511 And was he a playboy prince? Was he not able to make decisions. 965 01:04:41,545 --> 01:04:46,283 Was he not able to commit and suddenly this beautiful young girl came into his life... 966 01:04:46,316 --> 01:04:48,652 and it really improved his PR enormously... 967 01:04:48,685 --> 01:04:54,324 because not only had he managed to settle down, but with such a gorgeous and glamorous figure. 968 01:04:54,358 --> 01:04:57,094 I was always very much actually a Diana Spencer fan... 969 01:04:57,127 --> 01:05:02,532 and of course, it was terribly interest to watch how she emerged from that chrysalis... 970 01:05:02,566 --> 01:05:05,169 that early chrysalis into the girl she became. 971 01:05:05,202 --> 01:05:08,272 And she was very, very good at those royal duties. 972 01:05:08,305 --> 01:05:12,943 And of course, they were, for a time, really, completely a dream team. 973 01:05:12,977 --> 01:05:14,945 They could have gone anywhere and done anything. 974 01:05:14,979 --> 01:05:17,181 Everybody wanted to see them. 975 01:05:26,090 --> 01:05:32,562 The problem for Diana Spencer and what she really fell victim to was a time warp. 976 01:05:32,596 --> 01:05:37,534 By the 1970's, when Diana Spencer arrived on the scene... 977 01:05:37,567 --> 01:05:42,139 most people couldn't care less whether the bride walking up the aisle... 978 01:05:42,172 --> 01:05:44,674 was a virgin or not in ordinary life... 979 01:05:44,708 --> 01:05:51,181 but when it came to the royal family, we still expected this old-fashioned view. 980 01:05:51,215 --> 01:05:54,184 It meant she was much younger than Prince Charles. 981 01:05:54,218 --> 01:05:57,087 And Prince Charles, of course, as we've since discovered... 982 01:05:57,121 --> 01:06:01,491 was already committed emotionally to another woman and that was Camilla. 983 01:06:01,525 --> 01:06:06,230 But poor Camilla's problem was sort of Catch-22. 984 01:06:06,263 --> 01:06:10,600 And when she met Prince Charles, she fell in love, they went to bed together... 985 01:06:10,634 --> 01:06:16,273 but that sort of automatically ruled her out as a future queen. 986 01:06:21,078 --> 01:06:25,682 It sounds ridiculous, it sounds primitive, and it was. 987 01:06:25,715 --> 01:06:29,419 And, of course, in two or three years Prince Andrew fell in love with Fergie. 988 01:06:29,453 --> 01:06:33,257 She didn't pretend she was a virgin, she'd had boyfriends in the past. 989 01:06:33,290 --> 01:06:35,625 Everybody had moved on by that time. 990 01:06:35,659 --> 01:06:38,595 But Diana was caught in this particular trap... 991 01:06:38,628 --> 01:06:42,099 and it's the basis for, really the tragedy... 992 01:06:42,132 --> 01:06:46,336 that became her life and Prince Charles' life. 993 01:06:46,370 --> 01:06:52,642 And an enormous challenge to the monarchy and to the reputation of Elizabeth the 2nd. 994 01:06:59,649 --> 01:07:02,652 One of the many, many problems that Diana had... 995 01:07:02,686 --> 01:07:09,193 was I don't think anyone actually explained to her the enormity of what she was doing. 996 01:07:09,226 --> 01:07:14,298 And you'd think her father would have done, because he was the one person that did know it. 997 01:07:14,331 --> 01:07:16,700 And Diana was just thrown in at the deep end. 998 01:07:16,733 --> 01:07:19,403 She went to live in Buckingham Palace. 999 01:07:19,436 --> 01:07:21,371 She was incredibly lonely. 1000 01:07:21,405 --> 01:07:24,474 She was looked after by a footman, actually was a friend of mine... 1001 01:07:24,508 --> 01:07:27,411 and Prince Charles was away traveling a lot. 1002 01:07:27,444 --> 01:07:30,114 And I think she thought it was all gonna be wonderfully romantic... 1003 01:07:30,147 --> 01:07:34,618 and they'd be having candle-lit suppers in Buckingham Palace... 1004 01:07:34,651 --> 01:07:39,089 and he would sort of whisk her away on a white charger, but it wasn't like that at all. 1005 01:07:39,123 --> 01:07:40,190 She hardly saw him. 1006 01:07:44,628 --> 01:07:50,334 Well, we didn't cover her unhappiness until probably about 1987. 1007 01:07:52,169 --> 01:07:55,139 When it became so obvious that she was unhappy. 1008 01:07:55,172 --> 01:07:59,343 The queen was immensely distressed by what was happening... 1009 01:07:59,376 --> 01:08:04,348 in the marriage of Charles and Diana for a number of reasons. 1010 01:08:04,381 --> 01:08:09,786 Obviously, the threat that it carried to the reputation of the royal family... 1011 01:08:09,819 --> 01:08:12,656 but particularly to the happiness of the couple... 1012 01:08:12,689 --> 01:08:17,594 and particularly their ability to be parents, too. 1013 01:08:17,627 --> 01:08:21,531 William and Harry, whom she loved dearly as a grandmother... 1014 01:08:21,565 --> 01:08:25,735 but also who represented the future of the royal family. 1015 01:08:25,769 --> 01:08:29,173 So there was a whole complex of emotions going on in here. 1016 01:08:29,206 --> 01:08:33,310 The queen actually tried to bring Diana under her wing... 1017 01:08:33,343 --> 01:08:35,579 but Diana was very reluctant. 1018 01:08:35,612 --> 01:08:37,814 She thought, you know, she didn't want to have supper with the queen. 1019 01:08:37,847 --> 01:08:41,551 That was too boring, and also she found it a bit daunting. 1020 01:08:41,585 --> 01:08:46,323 I mean, the queen would invite her to come and have lunch with her or have supper with her... 1021 01:08:46,356 --> 01:08:50,860 and Diana really didn't want to do that, and so she'd find excuses. 1022 01:08:50,894 --> 01:08:54,931 And so, they never really formed a very close relationship... 1023 01:08:54,964 --> 01:08:58,202 at a time when it might have really helped Diana to do so. 1024 01:09:00,804 --> 01:09:03,773 When the marriage really started to break down... 1025 01:09:03,807 --> 01:09:06,443 Diana used to go and see the queen. Now nobody sees the queen without an appointment. 1026 01:09:06,476 --> 01:09:10,647 But Diana used to wait in the page's vestibule... 1027 01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:16,786 until the queen's last visitor, if you like, had left. 1028 01:09:16,820 --> 01:09:20,890 And then she'd dash in before the next one, and she'd just cry. 1029 01:09:20,924 --> 01:09:25,429 And say, "Everybody hates me. I hate my mother. I hate my sister. I hate my husband." 1030 01:09:25,462 --> 01:09:28,665 And the queen, not used to this kind of moral confrontation... 1031 01:09:28,698 --> 01:09:30,800 just didn't know how to handle Diana. 1032 01:09:30,834 --> 01:09:33,270 It really threw her. 1033 01:09:33,303 --> 01:09:36,706 And as a result, she sat on the fence with Diana. 1034 01:09:46,716 --> 01:09:51,921 It would be a great mistake to think that she blamed Diana for what went wrong. 1035 01:09:51,955 --> 01:09:56,426 If anything, I believe, that she and her husband Prince Philip... 1036 01:09:56,460 --> 01:09:59,896 put more of the blame on Prince Charles than on Diana. 1037 01:09:59,929 --> 01:10:04,234 Because after all, he was the one who had this extra girlfriend... 1038 01:10:04,268 --> 01:10:06,470 who was by then not a secret to the royal family. 1039 01:10:06,503 --> 01:10:13,843 He was the one, the older partner of the couple... 1040 01:10:13,877 --> 01:10:17,281 who's job it was to steer things through. 1041 01:10:17,314 --> 01:10:21,551 He was the royal who'd spent all his life getting ready for this. 1042 01:10:21,585 --> 01:10:24,321 I just think from everything I know about the queen... 1043 01:10:24,354 --> 01:10:28,858 and everything everyone's told me, she tries not to interfere with her children's lives. 1044 01:10:28,892 --> 01:10:31,361 She probably should have done. 1045 01:10:31,395 --> 01:10:35,432 I think that could be the great mistake of her reign, is that she didn't interfere... 1046 01:10:35,465 --> 01:10:38,602 between Charles and Diana and say now enough is enough. 1047 01:10:38,635 --> 01:10:41,538 I don't care if you loathe each other, you're gonna have to stay together. 1048 01:10:41,571 --> 01:10:45,809 She didn't do that. 1049 01:10:45,842 --> 01:10:49,879 Prince Philip made a very concerted effort to commune with Diana. 1050 01:10:49,913 --> 01:10:53,049 I've seen the letters that he wrote to her and I've seen her replies. 1051 01:10:53,082 --> 01:10:55,752 And they're very moving and they were very constructive on his side... 1052 01:10:55,785 --> 01:11:01,291 desperately trying to find a way of keeping her in the fold... 1053 01:11:01,325 --> 01:11:05,495 and trying to work out balance where the things that she might do with Prince Charles... 1054 01:11:05,529 --> 01:11:07,631 that they did both like doing, they should do more of... 1055 01:11:07,664 --> 01:11:09,633 in the hope that things would settle down. 1056 01:11:09,666 --> 01:11:13,303 I asked Prince Philip about it once and he said to me simply... 1057 01:11:13,337 --> 01:11:17,941 "We're a family. We are a family. 1058 01:11:17,974 --> 01:11:20,677 "These things happen in families." 1059 01:11:20,710 --> 01:11:23,380 And they cope with it as a family would. 1060 01:11:23,413 --> 01:11:26,416 that of parents... to it was 1061 01:11:26,450 --> 01:11:30,620 of their particular generation. 1062 01:11:30,654 --> 01:11:33,490 Actually the royal family was very fond of Diana... 1063 01:11:33,523 --> 01:11:37,093 and even after the divorce, there were lots of letters exchanged... 1064 01:11:37,126 --> 01:11:40,930 between Diana and Prince Philip. 1065 01:11:40,964 --> 01:11:44,634 Prince Philip very much wanted that relationship to stand the test of time. 1066 01:11:44,668 --> 01:11:48,372 Not because of the image of the royal family being dented by their divorce... 1067 01:11:48,405 --> 01:11:51,040 but because he really was fond of Diana... 1068 01:11:51,074 --> 01:11:55,745 and wanted the relationship to last for the couple's benefit and for the boys. 1069 01:11:55,779 --> 01:12:01,518 The queen was curiously on Diana's side certainly, while the marriage was breaking up. 1070 01:12:01,551 --> 01:12:05,689 Now when it comes to a question of what she thought of Diana's behavior... 1071 01:12:05,722 --> 01:12:11,127 after the marriage broke up, and her succession of boyfriends and particularly Dodi Fayed... 1072 01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:12,696 and all that sort of thing. 1073 01:12:12,729 --> 01:12:13,963 That's another issue. 1074 01:12:13,997 --> 01:12:16,600 ( ROCK MUSIC PLAYING ) 1075 01:12:23,473 --> 01:12:27,711 I once asked the Duke of Edinburgh why he felt the press approach... 1076 01:12:27,744 --> 01:12:32,015 to the royal family was as it is and where it had begun to go wrong. 1077 01:12:32,048 --> 01:12:37,353 And he told me, in terms, it began to go wrong when Rupert Murdoch arrived here. 1078 01:12:41,758 --> 01:12:48,532 And I think he would say that the sort of day-to-day insidious gnawing away... 1079 01:12:48,565 --> 01:12:52,168 at the views of the royal family... 1080 01:12:52,201 --> 01:12:56,506 really began when Rupert Murdoch arrived in this country. 1081 01:12:56,540 --> 01:13:01,044 The royal family are convinced, and I've spoken to Prince Charles about it. 1082 01:13:01,077 --> 01:13:03,012 I've spoken to other members of the royal family. 1083 01:13:03,046 --> 01:13:08,117 They are convinced that Murdoch was out to destroy them. 1084 01:13:08,151 --> 01:13:10,454 They really are. 1085 01:13:10,487 --> 01:13:13,823 I mean, Prince Charles banged on about Murdoch and the Murdoch press. 1086 01:13:13,857 --> 01:13:17,727 And they almost seemed to think that there's a Murdoch plot. 1087 01:13:17,761 --> 01:13:21,865 I'm not talking about actually now, but say like ten years ago. 1088 01:13:24,934 --> 01:13:30,139 It's terribly easy for journalists to latch onto an alleged failing. 1089 01:13:30,173 --> 01:13:34,644 And to say that Prince Philip was committed an another gaffe. 1090 01:13:34,678 --> 01:13:37,046 I think he's been rather unfairly treated. 1091 01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:40,784 Prince Philip is known for his gaffes and he's known for not mincing his words... 1092 01:13:40,817 --> 01:13:44,454 and saying what he thinks, and often people like me... 1093 01:13:44,488 --> 01:13:47,857 in the press like to interpret that in a certain way to make a good headline. 1094 01:13:47,891 --> 01:13:49,559 And I don't think there's anything wrong with that... 1095 01:13:49,593 --> 01:13:52,596 because often he has made controversial comments. 1096 01:13:52,629 --> 01:13:55,965 That said, often I've observed Prince Philip... 1097 01:13:55,999 --> 01:13:58,201 and really all he's trying to do is put people at ease... 1098 01:13:58,234 --> 01:14:01,838 in the way he thinks he should put people at ease is by cracking jokes... 1099 01:14:01,871 --> 01:14:05,809 and I recently profiled him for his 90th birthday... 1100 01:14:05,842 --> 01:14:08,211 and he suggested to a chef who was collecting an award... 1101 01:14:08,244 --> 01:14:13,116 that it was no wonder he was a good chef, because he was certainly the size for it. 1102 01:14:13,149 --> 01:14:17,153 And this man was enormous and wasn't offended at all, thought it was hilarious. 1103 01:14:17,186 --> 01:14:21,024 And I think people quite like being singled out by the Duke of Edinburgh. 1104 01:14:24,227 --> 01:14:29,132 I think the notion of Rupert Murdoch coming and being a staunch Republican... 1105 01:14:29,165 --> 01:14:32,736 from Australia didn't really change things that much... 1106 01:14:32,769 --> 01:14:35,238 because at the time, 80's and 90's... 1107 01:14:35,271 --> 01:14:39,876 the stewardship of The Sun was very much Kelvin McKenzie's domain... 1108 01:14:39,909 --> 01:14:44,147 and he realized in Fleet Street more than anyone that Diana was gonna sell papers. 1109 01:14:44,180 --> 01:14:47,116 And in that respect, it was what the readers wanted. 1110 01:14:47,150 --> 01:14:49,586 And if you look back to those times in the 80's... 1111 01:14:49,619 --> 01:14:52,021 of how many resources were thrown at royal stories... 1112 01:14:52,055 --> 01:14:55,158 you'd have royal reporters sent across the world. 1113 01:14:55,191 --> 01:14:59,763 They spent hardly any time in Britain. All they did was follow royals around on their holidays. 1114 01:14:59,796 --> 01:15:03,933 One of the things that disturbed, distressed the queen and Prince Philip... 1115 01:15:03,967 --> 01:15:06,736 about Diana Princess of Wales... 1116 01:15:06,770 --> 01:15:10,707 and about Sarah Ferguson who married the young Duke of York... 1117 01:15:10,740 --> 01:15:13,543 was that the attention they got... 1118 01:15:13,577 --> 01:15:17,847 they may have thought that it was for their them as individuals. 1119 01:15:17,881 --> 01:15:21,317 And the Duke of Edinburgh said to me once, "You know when the queen first became queen... 1120 01:15:21,350 --> 01:15:25,789 "and went on tours in the early 1950's, millions... 1121 01:15:25,822 --> 01:15:29,258 "millions of people came out in the streets and cheered." 1122 01:15:29,292 --> 01:15:33,997 And if the queen had taken that attention for herself... 1123 01:15:34,030 --> 01:15:37,333 it would have been corrosive. She never did. 1124 01:15:37,366 --> 01:15:42,739 She knew the attention, the adulation was not for her. 1125 01:15:42,772 --> 01:15:48,077 It was for the position of being queen. 1126 01:15:48,111 --> 01:15:53,617 One of the things that makes them feel a bit distressed about the way they're presented... 1127 01:15:53,650 --> 01:15:55,885 I've discussed this with the Duke of Edinburgh... 1128 01:15:55,919 --> 01:15:59,322 is that people now regard them as part of the celebrity culture. 1129 01:15:59,355 --> 01:16:00,790 They're not. 1130 01:16:00,824 --> 01:16:03,326 They think of themselves as part of history. 1131 01:16:03,359 --> 01:16:09,666 There is blood in their veins that has been coursing through royal veins since before 1066. 1132 01:16:15,839 --> 01:16:18,374 The queen's mantra when it comes to her family... 1133 01:16:18,407 --> 01:16:20,877 has always been never complain and never explain. 1134 01:16:20,910 --> 01:16:22,679 And in that respect... 1135 01:16:22,712 --> 01:16:25,281 she's always remained resolutely solid on issues... 1136 01:16:25,314 --> 01:16:29,218 such as love, marriage, divorce. 1137 01:16:29,252 --> 01:16:32,121 But she's someone to whom... 1138 01:16:32,155 --> 01:16:37,894 the public display of emotion is offensive. 1139 01:16:37,927 --> 01:16:42,198 It's rude. You know? You keep those things to yourself. 1140 01:16:42,231 --> 01:16:44,233 You don't lay them on other people. 1141 01:16:44,267 --> 01:16:45,769 You keep them to yourself. 1142 01:16:45,802 --> 01:16:50,073 You suffer your pain and your elation... 1143 01:16:50,106 --> 01:16:53,810 and your difficulty privately. 1144 01:16:53,843 --> 01:16:57,814 Probably the most demonstrative she ever was was when she talked about her annus horribilis. 1145 01:17:06,990 --> 01:17:12,328 Well 1992 was the worst year, the queen says, of her life. 1146 01:17:12,361 --> 01:17:15,198 She called it her annus horribilis. 1147 01:17:15,231 --> 01:17:21,237 Now there was the divorce of Andrew and Fergie. 1148 01:17:21,270 --> 01:17:24,307 Before that, there was the fire at Windsor Castle... 1149 01:17:24,340 --> 01:17:26,810 when the queen sort of almost saw her-- 1150 01:17:26,843 --> 01:17:32,048 It was her wedding anniversary and I think she almost felt her life was going up in flames. 1151 01:17:32,081 --> 01:17:34,751 And then of course, the separation... 1152 01:17:34,784 --> 01:17:36,452 of the Prince and Princess of Wales... 1153 01:17:36,485 --> 01:17:39,288 which really was something the queen had tried... 1154 01:17:39,322 --> 01:17:43,359 incredibly hard to help them avoid. 1155 01:17:43,392 --> 01:17:46,129 She said, "You know, just try a bit longer, just try a bit longer." 1156 01:17:46,162 --> 01:17:50,333 And then, she realized that it wasn't going to work. 1157 01:17:50,366 --> 01:17:54,070 So, that was a really rotten year for her. 1158 01:17:54,103 --> 01:17:59,075 Shortly after the Windsor fire, the queen was scheduled to make a speech... 1159 01:17:59,108 --> 01:18:02,478 and she didn't duck the issue, she didn't avoid it. 1160 01:18:02,511 --> 01:18:06,149 She was ill herself, she had a terrible sore throat... 1161 01:18:06,182 --> 01:18:10,954 from the smoke and from a cold that she was suffering from. 1162 01:18:10,987 --> 01:18:14,991 And all of this added up to this poignant image... 1163 01:18:15,024 --> 01:18:18,427 of this middle-aged elderly woman... 1164 01:18:18,461 --> 01:18:23,199 who'd seen her home burnt down, who'd seen her children divorce. 1165 01:18:23,232 --> 01:18:29,272 It has turned out to be an annus horribilis. 1166 01:18:29,305 --> 01:18:32,208 If it hadn't been Latin, she wouldn't have been able to say it. 1167 01:18:32,241 --> 01:18:38,381 But suddenly it provided her with a format for broaching this dreadful subject. 1168 01:18:38,414 --> 01:18:44,020 And she did, and of course people loved her the more for it and rallied around... 1169 01:18:44,053 --> 01:18:50,126 and gave her the emotional support that the monarchy... 1170 01:18:50,159 --> 01:18:52,261 so often offered to them. 1171 01:18:59,235 --> 01:19:01,971 I was asleep in bed when the phone rang... 1172 01:19:02,005 --> 01:19:03,840 and one of my bosses said... 1173 01:19:03,873 --> 01:19:06,843 "Nick, there's been a car crash in Paris. 1174 01:19:06,876 --> 01:19:11,815 "Dodi Fayed is dead and we think the princess is dead, too." 1175 01:19:19,522 --> 01:19:22,458 So I obviously got up, got dressed, went straight to the studio... 1176 01:19:22,491 --> 01:19:27,396 in the middle of the night and then was really on television... 1177 01:19:27,430 --> 01:19:31,100 I have to say, for the next week really. 1178 01:19:31,134 --> 01:19:35,171 We have a flash here from the Press Association news wire... 1179 01:19:35,204 --> 01:19:38,474 of Wales has died...incess 1180 01:19:38,507 --> 01:19:42,211 in a car crash in Paris. 1181 01:19:42,245 --> 01:19:45,982 What happened was, of course, that the week after Diana died... 1182 01:19:46,015 --> 01:19:48,084 was a long week from a media point of view. 1183 01:19:48,117 --> 01:19:50,486 So, on the Sunday you had the shock. 1184 01:19:50,519 --> 01:19:54,958 The next day it was discovered it turned on the paparazzi... 1185 01:19:54,991 --> 01:19:57,460 or perhaps even on the same day that it had pursued the car. 1186 01:19:57,493 --> 01:20:01,965 Then after that it was discovered that the chauffeur had more alcohol in his blood... 1187 01:20:01,998 --> 01:20:05,034 than he should have done, so he was the next one to be blamed. 1188 01:20:05,068 --> 01:20:09,105 And then once they'd finished with that, they turned on the queen. 1189 01:20:09,138 --> 01:20:14,210 And the press played it up like anything, they played up the fake thing of the flag. 1190 01:20:14,243 --> 01:20:18,982 There being no Union Jack flying at half mast on Buckingham Palace. 1191 01:20:19,015 --> 01:20:22,351 I tried to tell ITN time and time again... 1192 01:20:22,385 --> 01:20:25,288 why didn't you film Windsor Castle which has its flag at half mast? 1193 01:20:25,321 --> 01:20:29,225 Surely that makes a certain point. Didn't quite fit what they were interested in. 1194 01:20:29,258 --> 01:20:31,227 They wanted the stark flag pole. 1195 01:20:31,260 --> 01:20:33,562 The monarch that did not care and so forth. 1196 01:20:33,596 --> 01:20:36,232 We didn't whip up hysteria. 1197 01:20:36,265 --> 01:20:38,401 I always get a bit cross when people accuse us of that. 1198 01:20:38,434 --> 01:20:43,606 The British people felt very deeply, most of them, about Diana. 1199 01:20:43,639 --> 01:20:46,442 They felt her loss personally. 1200 01:20:46,475 --> 01:20:50,513 And we were very aware that we shouldn't enflame people. 1201 01:20:50,546 --> 01:20:53,282 We shouldn't say, "Oh, the queen's being terrible. 1202 01:20:53,316 --> 01:20:56,319 "She hasn't come down to London to meet the crowds." 1203 01:20:56,352 --> 01:20:59,622 We tried to be very careful about what we were doing. 1204 01:20:59,655 --> 01:21:02,425 But the story just swept along. 1205 01:21:02,458 --> 01:21:06,195 No one could have imagined what had happened to Diana. 1206 01:21:06,229 --> 01:21:08,497 And what would happen in the days that followed. 1207 01:21:10,566 --> 01:21:14,303 With Diana's death, the queen did what she's always done. 1208 01:21:14,337 --> 01:21:17,240 Remember, she likes continuity. 1209 01:21:17,273 --> 01:21:21,477 And she did what her father would have done and what her grandfather would have done. 1210 01:21:21,510 --> 01:21:26,950 So, they battened down the hatches, stay at Balmoral. 1211 01:21:26,983 --> 01:21:32,221 On the outward, act as if nothing so terrible has happened. 1212 01:21:32,255 --> 01:21:35,258 But she completely misread the mood of the country... 1213 01:21:35,291 --> 01:21:37,526 because then the ivory tower of Balmoral. 1214 01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:40,163 You don't know what's going down in London. 1215 01:21:42,298 --> 01:21:45,468 The queen is somebody who'd been through the war. 1216 01:21:45,501 --> 01:21:50,306 And her generation respond to things like car crashes... 1217 01:21:50,339 --> 01:21:54,377 in which ex-daughters-in-law are killed in a different way. 1218 01:21:54,410 --> 01:22:00,549 To the more touchy-feely way that the younger generation responded to that. 1219 01:22:04,387 --> 01:22:10,526 Her job was to look after these boys at this traumatic, terrible moment in their lives. 1220 01:22:10,559 --> 01:22:15,231 That became a priority and that was very much the reason... 1221 01:22:15,264 --> 01:22:20,169 why she did not want cameras paraded around. 1222 01:22:20,203 --> 01:22:23,139 She did not want to make public statements. 1223 01:22:23,172 --> 01:22:28,344 She certainly wanted to keep William and Harry away from attention. 1224 01:22:28,377 --> 01:22:32,215 And she thought, let's go down at the last moment. 1225 01:22:32,248 --> 01:22:35,351 It was the practical matter of not disturbing people at the palace... 1226 01:22:35,384 --> 01:22:40,423 but more important, it just means the boys can focus on this one thing. 1227 01:22:42,758 --> 01:22:46,329 Paying tribute to their mother at the funeral and then come home. 1228 01:22:46,362 --> 01:22:49,598 Well, of course, that was not how people in London... 1229 01:22:49,632 --> 01:22:53,302 or indeed through the media, people around the world saw it. 1230 01:22:53,336 --> 01:22:57,040 The image of the queen took a serious dent in that first week. 1231 01:22:57,073 --> 01:23:01,610 They seem to misjudge the mood of the nation. 1232 01:23:01,644 --> 01:23:04,313 And I think that the silence from the royal family... 1233 01:23:04,347 --> 01:23:07,083 for those early days and nothing happening. 1234 01:23:07,116 --> 01:23:10,419 The no mention of Diana at Crathie Church at the service. 1235 01:23:10,453 --> 01:23:13,289 And no flag coming down at Buckingham Palace. 1236 01:23:13,322 --> 01:23:18,561 You know, that in itself caused probably a lot of anger with people. 1237 01:23:18,594 --> 01:23:22,098 I know it's tradition that they're flag flies at Buckingham Palace... 1238 01:23:22,131 --> 01:23:24,400 when only the royalty are there... 1239 01:23:24,433 --> 01:23:28,071 but I really would have liked to seen the flag flying half mast there as well. 1240 01:23:28,104 --> 01:23:31,274 They're the most cold people on this earth. 1241 01:23:31,307 --> 01:23:34,410 I mean, all these people here today are showing the strength of the nation... 1242 01:23:34,443 --> 01:23:36,745 and she hasn't said anything, the queen. 1243 01:23:41,450 --> 01:23:45,188 well, the queen, when she came back to Buckingham Palace... 1244 01:23:45,221 --> 01:23:48,724 from Scotland, I think she was actually extremely nervous... 1245 01:23:48,757 --> 01:23:50,726 because she could feel the hostility of the crowd. 1246 01:23:50,759 --> 01:23:53,229 So she did a walkabout. 1247 01:23:53,262 --> 01:23:57,766 And actually she heard things like, "It's about time you've come." 1248 01:23:57,800 --> 01:24:01,137 You know, they can hear an awful lot of things that the crowd said. 1249 01:24:01,170 --> 01:24:06,075 And then I think a woman actually gave her a bunch of flowers... 1250 01:24:06,109 --> 01:24:07,009 and said, "Oh, would you like me to place it for you?" 1251 01:24:07,042 --> 01:24:10,079 And the woman said, "No, Mum, it's for you." 1252 01:24:10,113 --> 01:24:13,149 And that sort of broke the ice, it was that moment... 1253 01:24:13,182 --> 01:24:17,753 and I think suddenly people saw her... 1254 01:24:17,786 --> 01:24:20,189 and started feeling all prickly and angry. 1255 01:24:20,223 --> 01:24:22,225 They suddenly thought, "My goodness, this is a grandmother... 1256 01:24:22,258 --> 01:24:24,693 "and she's got to deal with all this." 1257 01:24:24,727 --> 01:24:29,165 I suppose it was a sort of natural feeling of sympathy in many ways for the queen. 1258 01:24:29,198 --> 01:24:32,268 Plus the fact, and I remember this terribly well. 1259 01:24:32,301 --> 01:24:37,173 The queen went on television, live from Buckingham Palace... 1260 01:24:37,206 --> 01:24:40,543 to address the nation in the middle of all of that. 1261 01:24:40,576 --> 01:24:44,713 And it was a very masterful speech. 1262 01:24:44,747 --> 01:24:48,817 What I say to you now as your queen and as a grandmother... 1263 01:24:48,851 --> 01:24:52,421 I say from my heart. 1264 01:24:52,455 --> 01:24:55,791 First, I want to pay tribute to Diana myself. 1265 01:24:55,824 --> 01:24:58,827 It did just the right thing. It said just the right thing. 1266 01:24:58,861 --> 01:25:04,333 She used the famous words, "As your queen and a grandmother." 1267 01:25:04,367 --> 01:25:10,239 That was very important thing to say, to remind people that she is not just some remote figure. 1268 01:25:10,273 --> 01:25:13,842 But she has a family, children, grandchildren... 1269 01:25:13,876 --> 01:25:16,879 and all the sorrows and pleasures that that brings to everybody. 1270 01:25:20,816 --> 01:25:24,220 For a woman who's thought of as conservative and a bit stick in the mud... 1271 01:25:24,253 --> 01:25:27,523 she's always shown throughout her reign in moments of crisis... 1272 01:25:27,556 --> 01:25:31,827 the ability to think on her feet and switch and change. 1273 01:25:36,432 --> 01:25:40,403 And of course, what was also very interesting about that was that there was a time... 1274 01:25:40,436 --> 01:25:43,239 when Prince William wasn't terribly keen to walk in the procession... 1275 01:25:43,272 --> 01:25:46,942 because he thought the whole thing had turned into a terrible ghastly media shenanigans. 1276 01:25:46,975 --> 01:25:51,680 But the night before, Prince Philip said to him... "I think when you're older.. 1277 01:25:51,714 --> 01:25:54,350 "you would regret it if you didn't walk in your mother's procession... 1278 01:25:54,383 --> 01:25:55,784 "and I will walk with you." 1279 01:25:55,818 --> 01:25:58,821 And that's an immensely supportive grandfather. 1280 01:25:58,854 --> 01:26:01,257 I think he got it absolutely right. 1281 01:26:01,290 --> 01:26:03,659 And there's a moment, if you look at the footage of that... 1282 01:26:03,692 --> 01:26:06,929 they're passing under White Hall and they think the cameras aren't on them... 1283 01:26:06,962 --> 01:26:10,199 and Prince Philip sort of leans over and says, "How's it going?" 1284 01:26:10,233 --> 01:26:13,902 That's what you need from a grandfather on an occasion of that kind, I think. 1285 01:26:18,441 --> 01:26:21,310 The distinguish about it that the royal family had some difficult times... 1286 01:26:21,344 --> 01:26:26,815 in the late 80's and I suppose almost right the way through the 90's. 1287 01:26:26,849 --> 01:26:30,986 It shows tremendous regenerative powers of the hereditary system. 1288 01:26:31,019 --> 01:26:36,325 In that this year in which we speak now, which is 2011... 1289 01:26:36,359 --> 01:26:38,861 it's been a very exciting year for the royal family. 1290 01:26:38,894 --> 01:26:42,431 And when Prince William was getting married, of course, there's always excitement... 1291 01:26:42,465 --> 01:26:45,634 about a good looking prince getting married. 1292 01:26:45,668 --> 01:26:48,437 At he same time, of course, they are actually very interested in the queen... 1293 01:26:48,471 --> 01:26:50,973 as she approaches the Diamond Jubilee. 1294 01:26:51,006 --> 01:26:55,711 And of course, the whole thought that the queen presiding over this family... 1295 01:26:55,744 --> 01:27:00,916 might, you know, be seeing perhaps even a, you know... 1296 01:27:00,949 --> 01:27:04,019 another generation of the House of Windsor in direct line of succession to the throne... 1297 01:27:04,052 --> 01:27:06,989 in her Diamond Jubilee year or very soon afterwards. 1298 01:27:07,022 --> 01:27:09,258 Well, that's all very exciting, indeed. 1299 01:27:09,292 --> 01:27:13,729 The queen symbolizes stability and sovereignty. 1300 01:27:13,762 --> 01:27:17,900 Means permanence and the ability to go on and on. 1301 01:27:17,933 --> 01:27:22,805 People like me who are sort of monarchists, we like the royal family and the queen... 1302 01:27:22,838 --> 01:27:25,474 not only for political reasons, because we think it's a good system... 1303 01:27:25,508 --> 01:27:27,943 but also for historical reasons. 1304 01:27:27,976 --> 01:27:31,747 I would say for emotional, even aesthetical reasons. 1305 01:27:31,780 --> 01:27:36,285 It's a much more wider thing, there's a great affection for the queen and the royal family. 1306 01:27:41,390 --> 01:27:44,927 The effect of having a monarchy or a crown... 1307 01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:48,697 presiding over our society is to make it very hierarchal. 1308 01:27:48,731 --> 01:27:52,601 Everybody's got their place, God bless this crown and his relations... 1309 01:27:52,635 --> 01:27:54,737 and keep us in our proper stations. 1310 01:27:54,770 --> 01:27:57,306 If you're a plain mister, there's a gentleman above you... 1311 01:27:57,340 --> 01:28:00,008 And a squire, above an esquire is a knight. 1312 01:28:00,042 --> 01:28:02,778 Above a knight is a baronet, above a baronets is a baron. 1313 01:28:02,811 --> 01:28:05,681 Above a baron is a viscount, above a viscount is an earl. 1314 01:28:05,714 --> 01:28:08,317 Above an earl is a marquis, above a marquis is a duke. 1315 01:28:08,351 --> 01:28:11,754 Above a duke is a royal duke, and then a royal duke bows and scrapes to the crown. 1316 01:28:11,787 --> 01:28:14,990 So, it is a hierarchal society. 1317 01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:22,665 We definitely got a class distinction within the households of the royal family. 1318 01:28:22,698 --> 01:28:26,569 At the very top, you could call it the aristocracy, if you like. 1319 01:28:26,602 --> 01:28:29,972 Of the royal household, that is the members. 1320 01:28:30,005 --> 01:28:32,841 Then you've got a sort of middle class area... 1321 01:28:32,875 --> 01:28:36,379 which may well be described or is the officials. 1322 01:28:36,412 --> 01:28:38,681 And then of course, you've got the downstairs area. 1323 01:28:38,714 --> 01:28:42,017 The working class, if you like, which is called the staff. 1324 01:28:42,050 --> 01:28:45,554 The three classes are completely separate. 1325 01:28:45,588 --> 01:28:49,024 They do not socialize in any way. 1326 01:28:49,057 --> 01:28:51,627 They don't eat together. 1327 01:28:51,660 --> 01:28:57,500 The lower orders have to address the upper ones as sir or madam. 1328 01:28:57,533 --> 01:29:02,438 The whole thing is very, very class-based. 1329 01:29:02,471 --> 01:29:05,107 Very much like it was in Victorian times. 1330 01:29:05,140 --> 01:29:08,944 If you want to receive the accolade, the way that I recommend you go down... 1331 01:29:08,977 --> 01:29:11,514 stop behind it as I am here. 1332 01:29:11,547 --> 01:29:14,817 Take the hand rail in your right hand, your left foot on left side... 1333 01:29:14,850 --> 01:29:16,952 and just go down on the right knee. 1334 01:29:16,985 --> 01:29:19,955 So you stop, and it's one, two, three. 1335 01:29:19,988 --> 01:29:22,825 Very nice and easy and quite comfortable. 1336 01:29:22,858 --> 01:29:26,128 The key person for any monarch... 1337 01:29:26,161 --> 01:29:29,998 in modern times, has been the private secretary. 1338 01:29:30,032 --> 01:29:35,170 And this tends to be a very senior figure who's been in royal service for many years. 1339 01:29:35,203 --> 01:29:40,543 In our country, the monarch does not have any real power. 1340 01:29:40,576 --> 01:29:43,479 And there are times when people almost wish they would... 1341 01:29:43,512 --> 01:29:49,518 and it's the job of that advisor to steer Her Majesty through all the problems that arise. 1342 01:29:56,224 --> 01:30:01,697 Being the sort of character that she is, she has always accepted her role in life. 1343 01:30:01,730 --> 01:30:04,166 And she is very, very dutiful. 1344 01:30:04,199 --> 01:30:08,437 Somebody once wrote of her that she possesses that calm, level gaze... 1345 01:30:08,471 --> 01:30:10,639 conscious of duty fulfilled. 1346 01:30:15,778 --> 01:30:19,081 I've been writing articles and books about the royal family... 1347 01:30:19,114 --> 01:30:23,752 for just about 40 years since the early 70's. 1348 01:30:23,786 --> 01:30:27,756 And I have to say that though I think I know the queen and the monarchy pretty well... 1349 01:30:27,790 --> 01:30:31,927 the essence of the queen remains an enigma to me. 1350 01:30:31,960 --> 01:30:37,099 And that, I think, is her strength and that is, I think, how it should be. 1351 01:30:37,132 --> 01:30:42,671 I think she's absolutely fascinating for the fact that she has been on the throne... 1352 01:30:42,705 --> 01:30:45,207 all these years, celebrating a Diamond Jubilee... 1353 01:30:45,240 --> 01:30:51,780 and naturally well we can make a historic record of every second of her reign... 1354 01:30:51,814 --> 01:30:56,218 what we don't know much about is the queen herself, and as a woman... 1355 01:30:56,251 --> 01:30:59,688 and how she's been as a mother and what she's felt... 1356 01:30:59,722 --> 01:31:05,127 as she's seen these momentous historical events take place. 1357 01:31:05,160 --> 01:31:08,163 Her emotions have always been kept under lock and key. 1358 01:31:08,196 --> 01:31:14,537 And that's why she is one of the most elusive figures of our time. 1359 01:31:25,047 --> 01:31:27,650 She's got one personality when you're her friend. 1360 01:31:27,683 --> 01:31:29,618 Another personality with her family. 1361 01:31:29,652 --> 01:31:33,121 She's got that wonderful mimicry, which she can do. 1362 01:31:33,155 --> 01:31:35,524 And then she's got her formal personality. 1363 01:31:35,558 --> 01:31:39,027 I don't think anyone, maybe no one ever will get to the root of her. 1364 01:31:43,566 --> 01:31:45,801 I think people find her endlessly fascinating... 1365 01:31:45,834 --> 01:31:49,171 from what is going on behind the facade. 1366 01:31:49,204 --> 01:31:52,741 And of course, why she's also fascinating, is because deep down... 1367 01:31:52,775 --> 01:31:54,977 we know we'll probably never find that out. 1368 01:31:57,079 --> 01:32:02,150 She has been consummate at preserving her own privacy... 1369 01:32:02,184 --> 01:32:06,755 her own values, her own ideas... 1370 01:32:06,789 --> 01:32:08,023 her own sense of self. 1371 01:32:08,056 --> 01:32:14,630 And mystery and enigma is a very important element of the magic. 1372 01:32:18,266 --> 01:32:22,170 Her strength always has been steadfastness. 1373 01:32:22,204 --> 01:32:25,307 That she takes the good and the bad in her stride. 1374 01:32:25,340 --> 01:32:28,911 That she takes a very long view of everything. 1375 01:32:28,944 --> 01:32:30,946 People admire her longevity. 1376 01:32:30,979 --> 01:32:33,716 They also admire her consistency. 1377 01:32:33,749 --> 01:32:37,586 There she is, she keeps on going. 1378 01:32:42,791 --> 01:32:46,829 The queen is one person who can get a crowd together. 1379 01:32:46,862 --> 01:32:49,197 And we witness that time and time again... 1380 01:32:49,231 --> 01:32:54,637 and people are then surprised afterwards to see so many people out there celebrating with her. 1381 01:32:54,670 --> 01:32:58,807 But she is one of those public figures that people will turn out and see. 1382 01:32:58,841 --> 01:33:02,144 And history has repeated itself in that respect. 1383 01:33:02,177 --> 01:33:05,714 The Silver Jubilee, the Golden Jubilee again was poo-pooed. 1384 01:33:05,748 --> 01:33:09,084 Even people said before the royal wedding, "Does anyone really care?" 1385 01:33:09,117 --> 01:33:11,920 You look at them now and make your own mind up. 1386 01:33:18,694 --> 01:33:24,199 I think the queen is constantly surprised of the great feeling... 1387 01:33:24,232 --> 01:33:29,905 of goodwill she gets from her people, and I find that strange after all these years. 1388 01:33:29,938 --> 01:33:34,242 And rather charming that it still surprises her. 1389 01:33:34,276 --> 01:33:36,845 I mean, it's extraordinary, she is still there. 1390 01:33:36,879 --> 01:33:38,981 She was there in 1952. 1391 01:33:39,014 --> 01:33:41,917 60 years later, she's still there... 1392 01:33:41,950 --> 01:33:44,720 the same queen, the same smile. 1393 01:33:44,753 --> 01:33:48,423 She goes through the same things year in, year out. 1394 01:33:48,456 --> 01:33:52,094 It's what a poet once described as... 1395 01:33:52,127 --> 01:33:55,864 "the security of known relationships." 1396 01:33:55,898 --> 01:33:57,866 We know where we are with the queen. 1397 01:33:57,900 --> 01:34:00,736 She doesn't let you down. She's always there. 127185

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