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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,433 --> 00:00:08,483 ♪♪ 2 00:00:09,016 --> 00:00:16,076 ♪♪ 3 00:00:16,116 --> 00:00:23,166 ♪♪ 4 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:32,170 ♪♪ 5 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:37,330 ♪♪ 6 00:00:37,366 --> 00:00:38,396 Welcome to "How it Really Happened." 7 00:00:38,433 --> 00:00:40,073 I'm Hill Harper. 8 00:00:40,100 --> 00:00:43,330 Timothy McVeigh detonated a 7,000-pound truck bomb 9 00:00:43,366 --> 00:00:44,476 in Oklahoma City, 10 00:00:45,016 --> 00:00:48,326 killing 168 innocent people, including 19 children. 11 00:00:48,366 --> 00:00:49,466 After McVeigh was arrested, 12 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,100 Americans were told the shocking news. 13 00:00:52,133 --> 00:00:54,453 This was not the work of a foreign terrorist, 14 00:00:54,483 --> 00:00:57,333 but a horror committed by one of our very own, 15 00:00:57,366 --> 00:01:00,116 a young man who'd once fought for American lives 16 00:01:00,150 --> 00:01:02,070 in the first Gulf War. 17 00:01:02,100 --> 00:01:04,380 The question everyone asked now was, 18 00:01:04,416 --> 00:01:07,116 How could a decorated American soldier 19 00:01:07,150 --> 00:01:10,400 turn into a deadly American terrorist? 20 00:01:10,433 --> 00:01:13,023 Here's how it really happened. 21 00:01:13,050 --> 00:01:18,270 ♪♪ 22 00:01:18,300 --> 00:01:24,030 ♪♪ 23 00:01:24,066 --> 00:01:25,246 Woman: There are four elements 24 00:01:25,283 --> 00:01:30,353 that I have to receive information regarding -- 25 00:01:30,383 --> 00:01:33,433 [ Rumbling ] 26 00:01:33,466 --> 00:01:41,346 ♪♪ 27 00:01:41,383 --> 00:01:44,153 Man: This information just now coming into the CNN center, 28 00:01:44,183 --> 00:01:45,303 and we have learned that there has been 29 00:01:45,333 --> 00:01:47,283 a large explosion at the Federal Building. 30 00:01:47,316 --> 00:01:50,196 Woman: In the Alfred Murrah building, some type of explosion 31 00:01:50,233 --> 00:01:54,073 has blown the side of the building off. 32 00:01:54,100 --> 00:01:56,130 Man: There was a boom, and the building shook, 33 00:01:56,166 --> 00:01:58,266 and the ceiling fell in. 34 00:01:58,300 --> 00:01:59,270 Woman: It just kept falling. 35 00:01:59,300 --> 00:02:02,220 It was a horrible noise, 36 00:02:02,250 --> 00:02:05,030 horrible noise. 37 00:02:05,066 --> 00:02:06,316 Man: There was nothing left. 38 00:02:06,350 --> 00:02:12,400 ♪♪ 39 00:02:12,433 --> 00:02:14,233 Woman: I thought it was the end of the world. 40 00:02:14,266 --> 00:02:17,096 I just didn't know what else, what other explanation 41 00:02:17,133 --> 00:02:21,123 it could be for what I was experiencing. 42 00:02:21,150 --> 00:02:24,100 Even after I got out of the building, I was scared to death. 43 00:02:24,133 --> 00:02:29,453 I just thought for sure that my life was going to end that day. 44 00:02:29,483 --> 00:02:31,033 Being six months pregnant, 45 00:02:31,066 --> 00:02:33,346 I was really scared for my daughter. 46 00:02:33,383 --> 00:02:37,253 I hadn't felt her move since the explosion. 47 00:02:37,283 --> 00:02:39,283 Man: We rush down there. 48 00:02:39,316 --> 00:02:43,096 It was pandemonium and hysteria. 49 00:02:43,133 --> 00:02:47,003 My stepdaughter, Frankie, worked at the federal credit union 50 00:02:47,033 --> 00:02:48,323 in the Murrah building. 51 00:02:48,350 --> 00:02:52,080 It was on the third floor. 52 00:02:52,116 --> 00:02:54,346 When we got down there, 53 00:02:54,383 --> 00:02:57,083 there was no Frankie. 54 00:02:57,116 --> 00:02:59,426 Frankie had a daughter by the name of Morgan, 55 00:02:59,466 --> 00:03:01,066 who was 2. 56 00:03:01,100 --> 00:03:04,230 You hope for the best and prepare for the worst, 57 00:03:04,266 --> 00:03:07,146 but that's easy to say and hard to do. 58 00:03:07,183 --> 00:03:08,323 Man: Dogs were brought in, 59 00:03:08,350 --> 00:03:10,400 and highly sensitive microphones were used 60 00:03:10,433 --> 00:03:14,173 in hopes of finding people still alive. 61 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,380 Woman: I couldn't see anything. I was completely buried alive. 62 00:03:16,416 --> 00:03:19,216 I was actually still in my chair 63 00:03:19,250 --> 00:03:22,100 and upside down in this rubble pile. 64 00:03:22,133 --> 00:03:24,333 Rescuers came and began working to get me out, 65 00:03:24,366 --> 00:03:29,346 and they worked until about 3:00-something that afternoon 66 00:03:29,383 --> 00:03:32,003 until they were able to pull me out. 67 00:03:32,033 --> 00:03:34,383 And I remember looking around and thinking, 68 00:03:34,416 --> 00:03:37,126 "This is a movie. 69 00:03:37,166 --> 00:03:38,416 This isn't real." 70 00:03:38,450 --> 00:03:41,320 It looked like a war zone. 71 00:03:41,350 --> 00:03:43,270 Man: At one point, rescuers found a woman 72 00:03:43,300 --> 00:03:46,070 trapped under debris. 73 00:03:46,100 --> 00:03:50,230 She was pinned underneath this enormous amount of wreckage, 74 00:03:50,266 --> 00:03:52,196 pinned by one of her legs. 75 00:03:52,233 --> 00:03:54,173 Man: She was lying in water. She was hypothermic. 76 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,320 Her blood pressure was falling. 77 00:03:56,350 --> 00:03:58,450 And so, at that point, there was no decision 78 00:03:58,483 --> 00:04:00,333 made other than to crawl into the space 79 00:04:00,366 --> 00:04:05,226 and perform an amputation and bring the patient out. 80 00:04:05,266 --> 00:04:09,076 The only choice really was to either do that or to die. 81 00:04:09,116 --> 00:04:11,466 Potok: And ultimately he runs out of scalpels, 82 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:16,020 and he remembers he has a little pen knife in his pocket, 83 00:04:16,050 --> 00:04:19,250 and the doctor actually manages to finish the amputation 84 00:04:19,283 --> 00:04:22,403 with this pen knife that's about that long. 85 00:04:22,433 --> 00:04:24,473 -How is she now? -She's doing fine. 86 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,080 I think she's stable. 87 00:04:27,116 --> 00:04:29,466 Man: I don't understand how anybody in this world 88 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,070 could conceive to do something like that to innocent people. 89 00:04:33,100 --> 00:04:38,200 ♪♪ 90 00:04:38,233 --> 00:04:40,223 Less than two hours after the bombing, 91 00:04:40,250 --> 00:04:42,320 Timothy McVeigh got arrested. 92 00:04:42,350 --> 00:04:45,150 The police really got a lucky break. 93 00:04:45,183 --> 00:04:48,373 McVeigh didn't have a license plate on his getaway car. 94 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,030 Investigators soon tied Timothy McVeigh 95 00:04:51,066 --> 00:04:54,116 back to the rental truck that was carrying the bomb. 96 00:04:54,150 --> 00:04:55,280 And the world was introduced 97 00:04:55,316 --> 00:04:59,326 to the 26-year-old terrorist from upstate New York. 98 00:04:59,366 --> 00:05:01,446 Man: McVeigh, when you met him, 99 00:05:01,483 --> 00:05:04,373 you were surprised at how affable he was, 100 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,480 easy to talk to. 101 00:05:08,016 --> 00:05:12,026 We learned that he was from a very ordinary, 102 00:05:12,066 --> 00:05:15,026 normal American family. 103 00:05:15,066 --> 00:05:19,166 Like many young men, his parents were divorced. 104 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,250 He was bullied as a kid and struggled to find his way. 105 00:05:22,283 --> 00:05:25,083 Then he found a true friend in his grandfather. 106 00:05:25,116 --> 00:05:26,466 His grandfather was really into guns 107 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:28,100 and taught Timothy McVeigh 108 00:05:28,133 --> 00:05:30,223 at a very young age how to shoot. 109 00:05:30,250 --> 00:05:33,080 Man: He had a great love of guns, 110 00:05:33,116 --> 00:05:36,196 and I believe that's what led him to sign up 111 00:05:36,233 --> 00:05:38,203 and join the Army. 112 00:05:38,233 --> 00:05:46,233 ♪♪ 113 00:05:46,266 --> 00:05:54,266 ♪♪ 114 00:05:54,300 --> 00:05:57,100 He loved being in the Army, and he loved shooting. 115 00:05:57,133 --> 00:06:00,073 He was an expert marksman. 116 00:06:00,100 --> 00:06:04,020 Soldiers did not see a terrorist in the making. 117 00:06:04,050 --> 00:06:09,250 They saw him as being a true battle buddy, a true comrade. 118 00:06:09,283 --> 00:06:11,453 Man: McVeigh's end game with the Army 119 00:06:11,483 --> 00:06:15,123 was to become a member of Special Forces, a Green Beret. 120 00:06:15,150 --> 00:06:18,300 He wanted to be a part of the elite. 121 00:06:18,333 --> 00:06:24,003 The Army is satisfying his desire to shoot weaponry. 122 00:06:24,033 --> 00:06:26,353 And one of the things he really excelled at 123 00:06:26,383 --> 00:06:29,403 was the Bradley fighting vehicle. 124 00:06:29,433 --> 00:06:31,333 It's an armor-plated vehicle. 125 00:06:31,366 --> 00:06:35,366 It has a 25-millimeter cannon on it. 126 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:40,320 And he actually becomes the top gun in his company. 127 00:06:40,350 --> 00:06:42,050 So, at this point McVeigh feels like 128 00:06:42,083 --> 00:06:44,223 he's at the top of the world. 129 00:06:44,250 --> 00:06:49,130 But then one event would really change everything. 130 00:06:49,166 --> 00:06:51,196 Man: Probably the most single important moment 131 00:06:51,233 --> 00:06:53,383 in the kind of radicalization of Tim McVeigh 132 00:06:53,416 --> 00:06:57,316 is when he takes a shot at an Iraqi soldier 133 00:06:57,350 --> 00:07:01,150 standing 2,000 yards away. 134 00:07:01,183 --> 00:07:03,373 [ McVeigh ] 135 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:10,480 ♪♪ 136 00:07:11,016 --> 00:07:18,126 ♪♪ 137 00:07:18,166 --> 00:07:25,246 ♪♪ 138 00:07:25,283 --> 00:07:28,373 People we talked to who were in his unit that witnessed 139 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:33,280 this told us that it was like seeing somebody step up 140 00:07:33,316 --> 00:07:36,026 and get a hole in one on the first hole. 141 00:07:36,066 --> 00:07:38,026 [ McVeigh ] 142 00:07:38,066 --> 00:07:40,266 ♪♪ 143 00:07:40,300 --> 00:07:42,000 Man: He was a hero for that. 144 00:07:42,033 --> 00:07:47,203 He got a Bronze Star and later would be promoted to sergeant. 145 00:07:47,233 --> 00:07:48,473 You think that would something he'd be proud of, 146 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:50,130 but for McVeigh, it became, 147 00:07:50,166 --> 00:07:52,016 "Why am I killing Iraqi soldiers? 148 00:07:52,050 --> 00:07:54,120 They haven't done anything bad to me. 149 00:07:54,150 --> 00:07:55,300 I'm out here shooting these people. 150 00:07:55,333 --> 00:07:58,183 They're just like I am." 151 00:07:58,216 --> 00:08:01,466 McVeigh talked about it in an interview on "60 Minutes." 152 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,420 I went over there hyped up, just like everyone else. 153 00:08:04,450 --> 00:08:09,280 Not only is Saddam evil -- all Iraqis are evil. 154 00:08:09,316 --> 00:08:10,316 What I experienced, though, 155 00:08:10,350 --> 00:08:12,220 was an entirely different ball game. 156 00:08:12,250 --> 00:08:15,180 And being face-to-face, 157 00:08:15,216 --> 00:08:17,196 close with these people in personal contact, 158 00:08:17,233 --> 00:08:19,353 you realize they're just people like you. 159 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:32,220 He started to realize that America, in his mind, 160 00:08:32,250 --> 00:08:34,430 was the biggest, meanest, cruelest bully 161 00:08:34,466 --> 00:08:38,216 in the entire world. 162 00:08:38,250 --> 00:08:40,100 Man: To see those images of children 163 00:08:40,133 --> 00:08:43,173 being pulled out of that building is just incredible. 164 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:47,430 [ Shouting indistinctly ] 165 00:08:47,466 --> 00:08:49,346 Woman: I remember screaming, and I said, 166 00:08:49,383 --> 00:08:52,303 "I left my boys in there this morning." 167 00:08:58,100 --> 00:09:04,120 ♪♪ 168 00:09:04,150 --> 00:09:07,320 [ McVeigh ] 169 00:09:07,350 --> 00:09:15,470 ♪♪ 170 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:24,130 ♪♪ 171 00:09:24,166 --> 00:09:32,296 ♪♪ 172 00:09:32,333 --> 00:09:35,023 Man: For McVeigh, he couldn't really understand, 173 00:09:35,050 --> 00:09:37,120 "Why am I killing Iraqi soldiers? 174 00:09:37,150 --> 00:09:39,370 They haven't done anything bad to me." 175 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,330 All: Hoo-ah! 176 00:09:42,366 --> 00:09:44,266 Man: He's still not quite sure, though, 177 00:09:44,300 --> 00:09:46,300 he's gonna continue in the military 178 00:09:46,333 --> 00:09:48,353 because what he really wants in life 179 00:09:48,383 --> 00:09:50,373 is to be in Special Forces. 180 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,180 Tim McVeigh wants to be a Green Beret. 181 00:09:53,216 --> 00:09:56,276 Man: He gets this call for the Special Forces, 182 00:09:56,316 --> 00:09:58,226 and he's heading back to the States 183 00:09:58,266 --> 00:10:02,016 to go through the training for that. 184 00:10:02,050 --> 00:10:04,450 I think he would have put aside his growing hatred 185 00:10:04,483 --> 00:10:07,403 for the government if he could have been going out 186 00:10:07,433 --> 00:10:11,453 after the enemies of the state around the globe. 187 00:10:14,150 --> 00:10:17,400 But you have to be in optimum physical shape 188 00:10:17,433 --> 00:10:20,273 for the Special Forces, and he's nowhere near that. 189 00:10:20,300 --> 00:10:24,030 He essentially flunks. 190 00:10:24,066 --> 00:10:26,076 Man: This is a massive disappointment for McVeigh. 191 00:10:26,116 --> 00:10:27,396 He quits the Army altogether. 192 00:10:27,433 --> 00:10:31,073 He's disillusioned, and he moves back to Pendleton 193 00:10:31,100 --> 00:10:33,350 in upstate New York. 194 00:10:33,383 --> 00:10:35,053 It's cold. It's wet. 195 00:10:35,083 --> 00:10:37,183 His family isn't much to him. 196 00:10:37,216 --> 00:10:41,176 And he's just kind of kicking around, not knowing what to do. 197 00:10:41,216 --> 00:10:43,426 [ McVeigh ] 198 00:10:43,466 --> 00:10:49,346 ♪♪ 199 00:10:49,383 --> 00:10:53,373 Man: He came home with a whopping case of PTSD 200 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,200 from the war, as evidenced by the fact 201 00:10:56,233 --> 00:10:59,223 that one day in the middle of February, 202 00:10:59,250 --> 00:11:01,270 he shows up at his grandfather's house... 203 00:11:01,300 --> 00:11:05,000 [ McVeigh ] 204 00:11:05,033 --> 00:11:10,333 ♪♪ 205 00:11:10,366 --> 00:11:16,146 ♪♪ 206 00:11:16,183 --> 00:11:19,183 Man: He was just going through so much pain 207 00:11:19,216 --> 00:11:21,996 because he was considered a war hero, 208 00:11:22,033 --> 00:11:28,303 and he just couldn't make it in the real world outside the Army. 209 00:11:28,333 --> 00:11:32,033 Ultimately, Timothy McVeigh leaves New York. 210 00:11:32,066 --> 00:11:35,116 [ McVeigh ] 211 00:11:35,150 --> 00:11:38,180 ♪♪ 212 00:11:38,216 --> 00:11:41,366 Man: He essentially becomes kind of a road warrior. 213 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:45,230 He's simply rootlessly moving around the country. 214 00:11:45,266 --> 00:11:49,196 He was searching for something, something to belong to, 215 00:11:49,233 --> 00:11:52,433 something to take the place of the Army. 216 00:11:56,333 --> 00:11:58,483 And he found that at gun shows. 217 00:11:59,016 --> 00:12:01,366 There's nothing that McVeigh loved more in the world 218 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,050 than guns. 219 00:12:03,083 --> 00:12:05,123 Man: Once he enters the world of the gun shows, 220 00:12:05,150 --> 00:12:09,050 he's really in the universe of the radical right. 221 00:12:09,083 --> 00:12:11,173 The gun shows are just alive 222 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,150 with the anti-government movement. 223 00:12:14,183 --> 00:12:16,353 Man: He would meet people there 224 00:12:16,383 --> 00:12:19,103 that were convinced that Bill Clinton 225 00:12:19,133 --> 00:12:22,453 was going to send soldiers to every home in the country 226 00:12:22,483 --> 00:12:26,233 and take guns away from law-abiding citizens. 227 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:32,320 As smart as he was, he was very impressionable. 228 00:12:32,350 --> 00:12:34,420 More and more, he's getting wrapped up 229 00:12:34,450 --> 00:12:36,230 in their conspiracy theories. 230 00:12:36,266 --> 00:12:38,466 People are selling books like Hitler's diary, 231 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,070 "Mein Kampf," at these shows. 232 00:12:41,100 --> 00:12:43,230 But the book that influenced him the most was a book 233 00:12:43,266 --> 00:12:46,996 he had been reading before he joined the military. 234 00:12:47,033 --> 00:12:49,023 It's called "The Turner Diaries," 235 00:12:49,050 --> 00:12:51,220 which becomes sort of a must-read 236 00:12:51,250 --> 00:12:54,150 for people in that right-wing group. 237 00:12:54,183 --> 00:12:56,483 "The Turner diaries" was written by the leader 238 00:12:57,016 --> 00:12:59,396 of the most serious neo-Nazi group in America, 239 00:12:59,433 --> 00:13:01,283 the National Alliance. 240 00:13:01,316 --> 00:13:03,216 Man: The backbone of "The Turner Diaries" 241 00:13:03,250 --> 00:13:05,180 is this story about this right-wing patriot 242 00:13:05,216 --> 00:13:08,096 who sees tyrannical government overreach 243 00:13:08,133 --> 00:13:11,033 and that he has to be the one to save the day. 244 00:13:11,066 --> 00:13:15,016 Ultimately, the book kind of culminates in this man 245 00:13:15,050 --> 00:13:20,300 blowing up the FBI headquarters building in Washington, D.C. 246 00:13:20,333 --> 00:13:24,273 It is a work of fiction, but it may have been a blueprint 247 00:13:24,300 --> 00:13:27,250 for what happened in Oklahoma City. 248 00:13:27,283 --> 00:13:33,073 McVeigh copied those details down to very small matters -- 249 00:13:33,100 --> 00:13:35,030 the same kind of truck bomb 250 00:13:35,066 --> 00:13:37,396 and a whole number of other factors. 251 00:13:37,433 --> 00:13:41,283 Tim McVeigh, he's already absorbed quite a lot of ideology 252 00:13:41,316 --> 00:13:43,116 about the wickedness of the government, 253 00:13:43,150 --> 00:13:44,300 and he's angry. 254 00:13:44,333 --> 00:13:49,273 And then things start happening that just fuel his anger. 255 00:13:49,300 --> 00:13:58,220 ♪♪ 256 00:13:58,250 --> 00:14:00,470 Woman: Scores of federal agents and police have surrounded 257 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,230 the Idaho cabin of 44-year-old Randy Weaver. 258 00:14:04,266 --> 00:14:07,276 Weaver is reputedly a member of the white-supremacist group 259 00:14:07,316 --> 00:14:09,046 the Aryan Nation. 260 00:14:09,083 --> 00:14:12,223 Man: Weaver had been under surveillance since February 1991 261 00:14:12,250 --> 00:14:14,120 after refusing to appear in court 262 00:14:14,150 --> 00:14:15,470 on a federal weapons charge. 263 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,380 After Randy weaver fails to appear in court, 264 00:14:18,416 --> 00:14:22,076 U.S. Marshals go to his property to arrest him. 265 00:14:22,116 --> 00:14:24,996 Then, disaster ensues. 266 00:14:25,033 --> 00:14:28,323 There was a fire fight between Randy weaver's family 267 00:14:28,350 --> 00:14:31,050 and U.S. Marshals. 268 00:14:31,083 --> 00:14:34,373 Man: Weaver's 14-year-old son, Sam, and Marshal William Degan 269 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,220 were killed August 21st. 270 00:14:37,250 --> 00:14:39,350 The next day, weaver's wife was shot in the head 271 00:14:39,383 --> 00:14:42,433 by an FBI sniper. 272 00:14:42,466 --> 00:14:45,266 Man: Anti-government people feel very strongly 273 00:14:45,300 --> 00:14:48,430 that Randy Weaver's family was slaughtered there. 274 00:14:48,466 --> 00:14:50,176 You gonna kill all the children? 275 00:14:50,216 --> 00:14:52,416 You're gonna have nightmares about this! 276 00:14:52,450 --> 00:14:55,350 Baby killer! Baby killer! 277 00:14:55,383 --> 00:14:57,373 You're a baby killer! 278 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,000 Baby killer! 279 00:15:00,033 --> 00:15:02,173 Man: Ruby Ridge became a rallying cry 280 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,050 for the anti-government folks, 281 00:15:04,083 --> 00:15:06,103 Tim McVeigh included. 282 00:15:06,133 --> 00:15:09,333 [ McVeigh ] 283 00:15:09,366 --> 00:15:11,426 Man: And that was just the beginning. 284 00:15:11,466 --> 00:15:14,076 Man: How much longer will you let this go on? 285 00:15:14,116 --> 00:15:17,096 ♪♪ 286 00:15:17,133 --> 00:15:20,283 I just arrived today. 287 00:15:20,316 --> 00:15:23,026 Man: Now we have a very large-scale fire breaking out 288 00:15:23,066 --> 00:15:25,026 on what must be the south side. 289 00:15:33,216 --> 00:15:36,296 Man: I was actually there as a reporter in Oklahoma City, 290 00:15:36,333 --> 00:15:38,033 covering the story. 291 00:15:38,066 --> 00:15:41,376 And as I'm kind of running towards this huge police scene, 292 00:15:41,416 --> 00:15:44,416 enormous crowds, cops everywhere, 293 00:15:44,450 --> 00:15:48,000 I realized, "My God, it's April 19th. 294 00:15:48,033 --> 00:15:51,023 It's the whole Waco thing come back to life." 295 00:15:53,050 --> 00:15:57,200 [ McVeigh ] 296 00:15:57,233 --> 00:16:05,123 ♪♪ 297 00:16:05,150 --> 00:16:07,200 Man: About six months after Ruby Ridge, 298 00:16:07,233 --> 00:16:09,323 something happens down in Waco, Texas, 299 00:16:09,350 --> 00:16:13,330 that enrages Timothy McVeigh even further. 300 00:16:13,366 --> 00:16:17,076 An ATF task force is investigating a compound 301 00:16:17,116 --> 00:16:20,166 run by a sort of religious cultist, 302 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,250 a man named David Koresh. 303 00:16:22,283 --> 00:16:24,333 Man: The so-called "Branch Davidians" 304 00:16:24,366 --> 00:16:26,096 were people who sold weapons 305 00:16:26,133 --> 00:16:28,423 and manufactured illegal weapons for money. 306 00:16:28,450 --> 00:16:32,050 So, they were very much in the kind of gun trade. 307 00:16:36,350 --> 00:16:38,200 Man: The ATF makes a bold move. 308 00:16:38,233 --> 00:16:42,303 They decide to storm the compound in a surprise raid. 309 00:16:42,333 --> 00:16:45,353 [ Gunfire ] 310 00:16:45,383 --> 00:16:48,483 ♪♪ 311 00:16:49,016 --> 00:16:50,426 No one's gonna hurt me or my family. 312 00:16:50,466 --> 00:16:53,276 That's -- that's -- that's American policy here, 313 00:16:53,316 --> 00:16:55,316 'cause this ain't America anymore when the ATF 314 00:16:55,350 --> 00:16:59,230 has that kind of power to come into anybody's home 315 00:16:59,266 --> 00:17:02,446 and kick doors down and things like that. 316 00:17:02,483 --> 00:17:05,223 Woman: Four agents were killed and more than a dozen wounded 317 00:17:05,250 --> 00:17:07,320 in a blistering 45-minute shoot-out 318 00:17:07,350 --> 00:17:10,050 when agents arrived at the compound this morning. 319 00:17:10,083 --> 00:17:12,373 Man: Inside the compound, David Koresh was shot. 320 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:16,150 Six of his followers were killed. 321 00:17:16,183 --> 00:17:18,073 Man: The whole world is watching this, 322 00:17:18,100 --> 00:17:22,020 and with the whole world is Timothy McVeigh. 323 00:17:22,050 --> 00:17:25,450 And what McVeigh and the rest of the radical right is seeing 324 00:17:25,483 --> 00:17:29,183 is, this is what the government will do to people 325 00:17:29,216 --> 00:17:34,396 who have unusual political ideas and are into weaponry. 326 00:17:34,433 --> 00:17:37,373 And after that disaster, when David Koresh refuses 327 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:41,400 to lead his followers out, the FBI takes over. 328 00:17:42,416 --> 00:17:45,066 Man: And the Waco confrontation begins -- 329 00:17:45,100 --> 00:17:48,430 what ultimately turns out to be a 51-day standoff 330 00:17:48,466 --> 00:17:51,476 between an enormous array of Federal Forces 331 00:17:52,016 --> 00:17:55,276 and something like 100 of these so-called "Branch Davidians." 332 00:17:55,316 --> 00:17:59,376 There were completely, 100% innocent children in there 333 00:17:59,416 --> 00:18:02,326 who were in there because their parents were. 334 00:18:02,366 --> 00:18:05,066 What about the babies and the women?! 335 00:18:05,100 --> 00:18:07,100 Don't you care about them?! 336 00:18:07,133 --> 00:18:09,353 Woman: How could you miss what was going on in Waco back then? 337 00:18:09,383 --> 00:18:13,123 It was on the news every single night. 338 00:18:15,233 --> 00:18:18,223 I was a journalism major, and I went down to Waco 339 00:18:18,250 --> 00:18:23,050 to find another angle to that story to write for the paper. 340 00:18:23,083 --> 00:18:24,283 Just arrived today. 341 00:18:24,316 --> 00:18:27,096 I met this gentleman sitting on the hood of his car, 342 00:18:27,133 --> 00:18:29,473 selling bumper stickers. 343 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,070 He felt strongly that David Koresh 344 00:18:32,100 --> 00:18:35,200 had his rights violated by having his compound stormed, 345 00:18:35,233 --> 00:18:40,083 and he also felt that Americans were losing their rights. 346 00:18:40,116 --> 00:18:44,426 [ McVeigh ] 347 00:18:44,466 --> 00:18:49,276 ♪♪ 348 00:18:49,316 --> 00:18:52,446 Rauch: His overall message was, "We need to fear the government. 349 00:18:52,483 --> 00:18:56,173 They're coming, just like they did with David Koresh." 350 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:57,370 Man: McVeigh eventually went home, 351 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:02,070 but like the rest of the world, he kept watching. 352 00:19:02,100 --> 00:19:05,050 And, finally, after about seven weeks of negotiations, 353 00:19:05,083 --> 00:19:07,403 the FBI decides to make a move -- 354 00:19:07,433 --> 00:19:09,203 a very aggressive move. 355 00:19:09,233 --> 00:19:13,353 ♪♪ 356 00:19:13,383 --> 00:19:16,283 Man: Federal Agents bring in Bradley fighting vehicles, 357 00:19:16,316 --> 00:19:21,096 and they start to inject CS gas into the building. 358 00:19:21,133 --> 00:19:22,483 Man: See, they've made a massive hole 359 00:19:23,016 --> 00:19:24,146 in the side of that building. 360 00:19:24,183 --> 00:19:26,233 All of the sudden, there's a lick of flame. 361 00:19:26,266 --> 00:19:28,246 Comes out of one side of the building. 362 00:19:28,283 --> 00:19:30,183 Man: Now we have a very large-scale fire 363 00:19:30,216 --> 00:19:33,016 breaking out on what must be the south side. 364 00:19:35,016 --> 00:19:38,146 [ McVeigh ] 365 00:19:38,183 --> 00:19:47,383 ♪♪ 366 00:19:47,416 --> 00:19:49,376 Man: There are children in there, 367 00:19:49,416 --> 00:19:51,246 as well as some 65-other people 368 00:19:51,283 --> 00:19:54,083 who are burning to death at this very moment. 369 00:19:54,116 --> 00:19:58,296 [ McVeigh ] 370 00:19:58,333 --> 00:20:07,083 ♪♪ 371 00:20:07,116 --> 00:20:15,366 ♪♪ 372 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:24,130 ♪♪ 373 00:20:24,166 --> 00:20:29,176 After Waco, McVeigh started to formulate his plan. 374 00:20:29,216 --> 00:20:33,446 This was his act of war against the U.S. Government. 375 00:20:33,483 --> 00:20:37,373 [ McVeigh ] 376 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:43,320 ♪♪ 377 00:20:43,350 --> 00:20:46,230 And he goes through a number of different scenarios. 378 00:20:50,283 --> 00:20:52,053 But none of these things seem like 379 00:20:52,083 --> 00:20:54,303 they're really gonna be enough, 380 00:20:54,333 --> 00:20:56,203 that they're not gonna get the attention, 381 00:20:56,233 --> 00:20:58,383 grab the government by the throat 382 00:20:58,416 --> 00:21:02,316 and make it change its evil ways. 383 00:21:02,350 --> 00:21:06,050 Man: McVeigh was gonna commit a bombing 384 00:21:06,083 --> 00:21:11,123 and make it the worst bombing America had ever seen. 385 00:21:11,150 --> 00:21:14,450 So, he started little by little to gather the materials 386 00:21:14,483 --> 00:21:17,423 he needed to make this bomb. 387 00:21:17,450 --> 00:21:20,130 Man: A bomb he planned to carry in the back of a truck, 388 00:21:20,166 --> 00:21:21,326 and to build it, 389 00:21:21,366 --> 00:21:24,176 he needed to get his hands on ammonium nitrate, 390 00:21:24,216 --> 00:21:27,176 a highly explosive fertilizer. 391 00:21:27,216 --> 00:21:32,146 So, he starts going to places that sell ammonium nitrate. 392 00:21:32,183 --> 00:21:36,103 Man: And he knows, for the size explosion he wants, 393 00:21:36,133 --> 00:21:39,423 he's gonna have to get a ton of fertilizer. 394 00:21:39,450 --> 00:21:43,130 But he also doesn't want to raise suspicion. 395 00:21:43,166 --> 00:21:46,316 Man: So, he buys a couple of hundred pounds here, 396 00:21:46,350 --> 00:21:49,120 and then he buys a couple of hundred pounds here, 397 00:21:49,150 --> 00:21:51,080 trying to stay below the radar. 398 00:21:51,116 --> 00:21:53,426 Man: But McVeigh realizes at some point 399 00:21:53,466 --> 00:21:56,326 that he can't do this all alone. 400 00:21:56,366 --> 00:21:58,166 Man: So, he turned to two fellow soldiers 401 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,200 that he had met in the Army years earlier, 402 00:22:00,233 --> 00:22:02,333 Terry Nichols and Michael Fortier. 403 00:22:02,366 --> 00:22:05,026 Both of them shared McVeigh's really intense 404 00:22:05,066 --> 00:22:06,276 hatred of the government. 405 00:22:06,316 --> 00:22:09,246 But the planner of all this was McVeigh. 406 00:22:09,283 --> 00:22:13,233 The other two guys were basically flunkies. 407 00:22:13,266 --> 00:22:15,466 They got a couple of storage units, 408 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,030 and they put in five or six 409 00:22:18,066 --> 00:22:20,466 50-pound bags of ammonium nitrate. 410 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:26,130 What is tougher is the fuel that they need to mix with it. 411 00:22:26,166 --> 00:22:29,476 For that you need a very high-powered fuel. 412 00:22:32,116 --> 00:22:34,396 Nitromethane racing fuel to act 413 00:22:34,433 --> 00:22:37,033 as the main accelerant in the bomb. 414 00:22:37,066 --> 00:22:40,046 Man: So, they end up going down to the Texas Motorplex 415 00:22:40,083 --> 00:22:41,173 south of Dallas, 416 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:47,030 and McVeigh poses as a rider needing the fuel. 417 00:22:47,066 --> 00:22:49,076 People he's trying to buy it from are a little shocked 418 00:22:49,116 --> 00:22:51,446 because you use tiny amounts of this fuel. 419 00:22:51,483 --> 00:22:54,183 To buy three barrels is unheard of. 420 00:22:54,216 --> 00:22:56,326 The first guy in fact refuses to sell to him. 421 00:22:56,366 --> 00:22:59,066 He doesn't believe that he's really gonna use this 422 00:22:59,100 --> 00:23:01,170 for racing, as he claims. 423 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:05,430 Ultimately, he finds a second seller, who does sell it to him. 424 00:23:05,466 --> 00:23:11,266 And so, they gradually built up their supplies. 425 00:23:11,300 --> 00:23:14,120 Man: During this time, McVeigh is scouting the country, 426 00:23:14,150 --> 00:23:16,120 trying to determine where the bomb is going 427 00:23:16,150 --> 00:23:18,100 to have the most impact. 428 00:23:18,133 --> 00:23:20,053 There are several federal buildings in the country 429 00:23:20,083 --> 00:23:24,333 that get looked at as possible sites for the bomb. 430 00:23:24,366 --> 00:23:27,396 [ McVeigh ] 431 00:23:32,033 --> 00:23:35,203 Man: McVeigh's criteria was to cause the maximum amount 432 00:23:35,233 --> 00:23:37,253 of damage to law enforcement. 433 00:23:49,050 --> 00:23:53,270 He picked the Murrah building after finding it in a phonebook. 434 00:23:53,300 --> 00:23:57,100 Man: He wanted the building, once it was bombed, 435 00:23:57,133 --> 00:23:59,273 to present an incredible spectacle. 436 00:23:59,300 --> 00:24:03,270 [ McVeigh ] 437 00:24:11,050 --> 00:24:12,220 Man: And he chose a date in history 438 00:24:12,250 --> 00:24:14,230 that for him was very significant -- 439 00:24:14,266 --> 00:24:17,316 the second anniversary of the fire at Waco. 440 00:24:17,350 --> 00:24:19,400 ♪♪ 441 00:24:19,433 --> 00:24:21,473 Man: McVeigh was kind of the ultimate soldier. 442 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,120 All that mattered to him was the mission, 443 00:24:24,150 --> 00:24:26,400 and, by golly, he was gonna carry it out. 444 00:24:32,266 --> 00:24:33,996 Welcome back. 445 00:24:34,033 --> 00:24:36,183 The Oklahoma City bombing took the nation by surprise, 446 00:24:36,216 --> 00:24:38,296 forcing Americans everywhere to confront an evil 447 00:24:38,333 --> 00:24:40,333 they never knew existed. 448 00:24:40,366 --> 00:24:42,146 Timothy McVeigh claimed his bomb 449 00:24:42,183 --> 00:24:45,023 was meant to sent a message to the U.S. Government. 450 00:24:45,050 --> 00:24:48,370 But, in reality, the devastation in Oklahoma City 451 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,230 was felt most by the everyday Americans 452 00:24:51,266 --> 00:24:53,366 he claimed to be fighting for. 453 00:24:56,333 --> 00:24:59,053 Man: McVeigh got up that morning, 454 00:24:59,083 --> 00:25:00,303 looked around his truck, 455 00:25:00,333 --> 00:25:03,123 and headed off to Oklahoma City, 456 00:25:03,150 --> 00:25:05,330 ready to wreak havoc on the world. 457 00:25:07,366 --> 00:25:08,476 Woman: With regard to this proceeding, 458 00:25:09,016 --> 00:25:11,146 basically there are four elements 459 00:25:11,183 --> 00:25:14,473 that I have to receive information regarding -- 460 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:22,080 [ Rumbling ] 461 00:25:22,116 --> 00:25:23,246 Man: A car bomb ripped apart 462 00:25:23,283 --> 00:25:25,033 a federal building in Oklahoma City. 463 00:25:25,066 --> 00:25:27,146 Hundreds are injured. Many are dead. 464 00:25:27,183 --> 00:25:29,323 Woman: I remember screaming, 465 00:25:29,350 --> 00:25:32,330 "I left my boys in there this morning." 466 00:25:32,366 --> 00:25:35,246 I had two grandsons in the daycare center 467 00:25:35,283 --> 00:25:37,103 at the Murrah Building. 468 00:25:37,133 --> 00:25:42,073 Aaron was 5, and Elijah was 2. 469 00:25:42,100 --> 00:25:44,050 When I got them dressed that morning, 470 00:25:44,083 --> 00:25:49,383 I think Elijah had on a shirt with a teddy bear. 471 00:25:49,416 --> 00:25:52,296 When I got to the building, 472 00:25:52,333 --> 00:25:55,403 I approached the building from one side 473 00:25:55,433 --> 00:25:58,233 that didn't have any damage. 474 00:25:58,266 --> 00:26:01,346 And so, some of the panic went away 475 00:26:01,383 --> 00:26:06,253 until I walked around to the other side of the building. 476 00:26:06,283 --> 00:26:09,003 There was no building. 477 00:26:09,033 --> 00:26:12,183 All the building was laying in the street. 478 00:26:12,216 --> 00:26:18,326 When I saw that, I sort of went crazy. 479 00:26:18,366 --> 00:26:19,426 Man: My goodness. 480 00:26:19,466 --> 00:26:22,026 There's got to be people dead in there. 481 00:26:22,066 --> 00:26:24,366 Coverdale: I kept saying, "I've got to go in there." 482 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,080 Somebody grabbed my arm, 483 00:26:26,116 --> 00:26:29,096 and I remember jerking my arm away from them, 484 00:26:29,133 --> 00:26:31,423 and I got upset 485 00:26:31,450 --> 00:26:34,170 because they wouldn't let me go in the building. 486 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:38,350 But there was no place to go, anyway. 487 00:26:38,383 --> 00:26:42,433 Some of the other parents, and they came up to me, 488 00:26:42,466 --> 00:26:44,476 and I was still screaming, 489 00:26:45,016 --> 00:26:50,466 and they didn't know where their children were, either. 490 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,280 [ Screaming indistinctly ] 491 00:26:54,316 --> 00:26:58,166 Let me in! [ Screaming ] 492 00:27:00,100 --> 00:27:01,300 Man: You can't help that. 493 00:27:01,333 --> 00:27:03,283 The parent in you comes out. 494 00:27:03,316 --> 00:27:05,046 If that were my kid in there, 495 00:27:05,083 --> 00:27:09,133 I would hope somebody would run in there and get my kid. 496 00:27:09,166 --> 00:27:10,376 Man: Now it's like there's people 497 00:27:10,416 --> 00:27:12,076 trying to get into the building. 498 00:27:12,116 --> 00:27:14,446 In your mind, you're always thinking you're gonna maybe 499 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,080 find that one more person alive. 500 00:27:17,116 --> 00:27:20,416 That drove a lot of people to keep going. 501 00:27:20,450 --> 00:27:23,270 Man: There's injured people all over the place, way up there. 502 00:27:23,300 --> 00:27:26,250 I always had a lot of faith, 503 00:27:26,283 --> 00:27:29,353 and I remember talking to God and I'd say, 504 00:27:29,383 --> 00:27:31,053 "Just let them be alive. 505 00:27:31,083 --> 00:27:33,453 If they're injured, that's okay. 506 00:27:33,483 --> 00:27:35,203 I'll take care of them. 507 00:27:35,233 --> 00:27:37,273 But just let them be alive." 508 00:27:37,300 --> 00:27:39,130 I mean, they were babies. 509 00:27:39,166 --> 00:27:43,146 Man: My partner had just picked up a little boy, 510 00:27:43,183 --> 00:27:46,103 and he was walking out with him, holding him. 511 00:27:46,133 --> 00:27:50,403 He had this look on his face, and I asked, "Is he alive?" 512 00:27:50,433 --> 00:27:53,233 And he said, "No, Jerry, he's not." 513 00:27:53,266 --> 00:27:57,076 And I remember that he had a sweater on, 514 00:27:57,116 --> 00:28:00,996 and it had a picture of a teddy bear on the front of it. 515 00:28:01,033 --> 00:28:02,453 I took this little boy over to 516 00:28:02,483 --> 00:28:04,323 what now has become a makeshift morgue, 517 00:28:04,350 --> 00:28:07,250 which is the playground where the kids played. 518 00:28:07,283 --> 00:28:10,203 We laid him down, and a nurse came by, 519 00:28:10,233 --> 00:28:12,223 and she took a tag, 520 00:28:12,250 --> 00:28:15,280 and she wrapped it around his little foot, 521 00:28:15,316 --> 00:28:18,396 and, boy, I tell you what, that hit home. 522 00:28:18,433 --> 00:28:20,203 That really hit home. 523 00:28:20,233 --> 00:28:26,203 ♪♪ 524 00:28:26,233 --> 00:28:28,023 Man: We're hoping that some of these youngsters 525 00:28:28,050 --> 00:28:31,200 that are still trapped in that building will not come out dead, 526 00:28:31,233 --> 00:28:33,103 but we can find them. 527 00:28:33,133 --> 00:28:36,303 Bill Clinton: The bombing in Oklahoma City 528 00:28:36,333 --> 00:28:40,053 was an attack on innocent children 529 00:28:40,083 --> 00:28:42,273 and defenseless citizens. 530 00:28:42,300 --> 00:28:47,150 It was an act of cowardice, and it was evil. 531 00:28:47,183 --> 00:28:51,373 ♪♪ 532 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,050 Coverdale: Three days after the bombing, 533 00:28:54,083 --> 00:28:55,403 I heard somebody call my name. 534 00:28:55,433 --> 00:28:59,333 That's when they told me they had found their bodies. 535 00:28:59,366 --> 00:29:05,146 And I remember screaming, screaming at God, "I begged you. 536 00:29:05,183 --> 00:29:07,203 I begged you to let them be alive, 537 00:29:07,233 --> 00:29:10,483 and you didn't even hear me." 538 00:29:11,016 --> 00:29:12,376 To see those images of children 539 00:29:12,416 --> 00:29:15,366 being pulled out of that building is just incredible. 540 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,120 I think this sends a shock wave throughout America. 541 00:29:18,150 --> 00:29:20,430 The photograph that's really become iconic 542 00:29:20,466 --> 00:29:22,346 of the Oklahoma City bombing 543 00:29:22,383 --> 00:29:26,233 is of a fireman holding one of the youngest victims, 544 00:29:26,266 --> 00:29:27,466 Baylee Almon. 545 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:32,000 A gentleman came up to me and said he had a critical infant. 546 00:29:32,033 --> 00:29:34,023 And he handed me a baby. 547 00:29:34,050 --> 00:29:38,450 And the first thing I did was check her for any signs of life, 548 00:29:38,483 --> 00:29:40,073 which I didn't find any. 549 00:29:40,100 --> 00:29:42,370 So, I walked across the street with the baby 550 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,370 and looked at the paramedic and told him, 551 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,150 "I have a critical infant." 552 00:29:46,183 --> 00:29:50,353 And I remember looking at her, thinking that somebody's world 553 00:29:50,383 --> 00:29:53,123 is getting ready to be turned upside down, 554 00:29:53,150 --> 00:29:54,480 'cause I knew her fate. 555 00:29:55,016 --> 00:29:59,216 Woman: He's a toddler. He's about 20 months old. 556 00:29:59,250 --> 00:30:04,180 Man: At the end of the day, there were 168 people killed, 557 00:30:04,216 --> 00:30:09,046 and that 168 people included 19 small children. 558 00:30:09,083 --> 00:30:12,123 Man: Got one here! Got a child here! 559 00:30:12,150 --> 00:30:14,200 Man: Out of the way. 560 00:30:14,233 --> 00:30:15,433 Man: We got the call. 561 00:30:15,466 --> 00:30:19,116 Frankie had been positively identified. 562 00:30:19,150 --> 00:30:21,450 I just don't know that there's any formula 563 00:30:21,483 --> 00:30:25,083 that you can follow to prepare for the worst 564 00:30:25,116 --> 00:30:28,266 and especially when it comes to losing a child, 565 00:30:28,300 --> 00:30:31,100 not at 23, in the prime of life. 566 00:30:31,133 --> 00:30:32,383 And then you're thinking, "What are you gonna tell 567 00:30:32,416 --> 00:30:36,046 a two-year-old? What about her mom?" 568 00:30:36,083 --> 00:30:39,233 Man: On the morning of April the 19th, 1995, 569 00:30:39,266 --> 00:30:42,246 my daughter Julie Marie died. 570 00:30:42,283 --> 00:30:46,073 Julie worked as a Spanish translator for Social Security, 571 00:30:46,100 --> 00:30:49,020 on the first floor of the Murrah Building. 572 00:30:49,050 --> 00:30:50,180 She had gone to the Social Security 573 00:30:50,216 --> 00:30:52,376 waiting room to get a client, 574 00:30:52,416 --> 00:30:55,446 and had she been at her office, she would have been okay 575 00:30:55,483 --> 00:30:58,423 because there was no one killed in her work area. 576 00:30:58,450 --> 00:31:00,250 But she was killed because she had left 577 00:31:00,283 --> 00:31:03,123 and went to the front of the building. 578 00:31:03,150 --> 00:31:07,230 After Julie's death, I went through a lot of grief, 579 00:31:07,266 --> 00:31:09,326 and I went to the bomb site each day, 580 00:31:09,366 --> 00:31:12,126 felt a special closeness by going there. 581 00:31:12,166 --> 00:31:14,446 Man: A cleansing rain fell in Oklahoma City, 582 00:31:14,483 --> 00:31:18,173 as thousands of mourners in a solemn processional 583 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,330 made their way past the bomb site. 584 00:31:20,366 --> 00:31:22,996 The survivors and families of victims 585 00:31:23,033 --> 00:31:26,423 each placed a single rose amidst the debris. 586 00:31:26,450 --> 00:31:30,330 It was a void that you can't fill, 587 00:31:30,366 --> 00:31:34,466 and that became the beginning of a long road. 588 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,330 Woman: The judge has sworn the jury, 589 00:31:36,366 --> 00:31:39,266 and opening statements have begun. 590 00:31:39,300 --> 00:31:43,470 [ McVeigh ] 591 00:31:50,283 --> 00:31:54,223 ♪♪ 592 00:31:54,250 --> 00:31:55,480 Woman: The jury is in the courtroom. 593 00:31:56,016 --> 00:31:57,346 The judge has sworn the jury, 594 00:31:57,383 --> 00:32:00,133 and opening statements have begun in the trial 595 00:32:00,166 --> 00:32:03,346 of United States versus Timothy McVeigh. 596 00:32:03,383 --> 00:32:05,353 Man: When McVeigh came in every morning 597 00:32:05,383 --> 00:32:09,323 before the jury showed up, he was smirking, laughing, 598 00:32:09,350 --> 00:32:12,170 flirting with any women on his team. 599 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,450 [ McVeigh ] 600 00:32:17,350 --> 00:32:19,280 Potok: But when it was time to all rise, 601 00:32:19,316 --> 00:32:22,116 he would go into his soldier mode. 602 00:32:22,150 --> 00:32:26,300 I think the prosecution put on a very, very good case. 603 00:32:26,333 --> 00:32:29,173 They went through how they acquired the materials, 604 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:30,470 how the bomb was built. 605 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,300 I remember every Friday afternoon, 606 00:32:33,333 --> 00:32:36,283 some of the last witnesses of the day 607 00:32:36,316 --> 00:32:40,026 for that week would be victims 608 00:32:40,066 --> 00:32:43,276 so that the jurors were left over the weekend 609 00:32:43,316 --> 00:32:47,046 with a feeling of what it was like to be there 610 00:32:47,083 --> 00:32:50,473 or to have lost someone during the bombing. 611 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,120 [ McVeigh ] 612 00:33:11,333 --> 00:33:14,053 Man: The picture that emerged of McVeigh 613 00:33:14,083 --> 00:33:18,273 was of this very manipulative and very selfish person, 614 00:33:18,300 --> 00:33:22,120 who didn't really care about any of the people around him. 615 00:33:22,150 --> 00:33:24,180 Coverdale: Sitting in the courtroom, 616 00:33:24,216 --> 00:33:25,316 I'd just stare at him, 617 00:33:25,350 --> 00:33:31,100 and I would wish that my mind would reach out 618 00:33:31,133 --> 00:33:34,383 because I wanted to know why. 619 00:33:34,416 --> 00:33:36,276 Why did you do this? 620 00:33:36,316 --> 00:33:40,216 Potok: Timothy McVeigh wanted to have a necessity defense, 621 00:33:40,250 --> 00:33:43,150 that he needed to blow up the federal building 622 00:33:43,183 --> 00:33:46,183 because the federal government was an imminent threat 623 00:33:46,216 --> 00:33:49,376 to the life and liberty of American citizens everywhere. 624 00:33:49,416 --> 00:33:53,076 But Tim McVeigh's lawyer absolutely disagreed. 625 00:33:53,116 --> 00:33:57,066 McVeigh's attorney argued that this was a broader conspiracy 626 00:33:57,100 --> 00:34:01,070 and that Timothy McVeigh was really just a foot soldier. 627 00:34:01,100 --> 00:34:03,300 But I think anyone who sat through the trial 628 00:34:03,333 --> 00:34:05,373 would believe the same thing: 629 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,430 that Timothy McVeigh was guilty of the bombing. 630 00:34:08,466 --> 00:34:11,196 Woman: It is a decision that has had much of the nation 631 00:34:11,233 --> 00:34:12,423 holding its breath. 632 00:34:12,450 --> 00:34:15,050 Today, the federal jury handed down its verdicts 633 00:34:15,083 --> 00:34:19,333 against Timothy McVeigh -- guilty on all counts. 634 00:34:19,366 --> 00:34:22,416 [ Reporter ] 635 00:34:28,316 --> 00:34:31,116 Man: And now the question for the jury was, 636 00:34:31,150 --> 00:34:34,120 "Should McVeigh be sentenced to die?" 637 00:34:34,150 --> 00:34:38,080 Coverdale: You know, I wanted Tim to get the death penalty. 638 00:34:38,116 --> 00:34:40,476 I have never believed in capital punishment, 639 00:34:41,016 --> 00:34:43,296 but that's what anger does to you. 640 00:34:43,333 --> 00:34:46,333 I want the man to spend a very -- 641 00:34:46,366 --> 00:34:49,476 till he draws his last breath in solitary confinement. 642 00:34:50,016 --> 00:34:52,096 Tom Kight: Marsha thought it was too easy. 643 00:34:52,133 --> 00:34:54,253 She was gonna have to live the rest of her life 644 00:34:54,283 --> 00:34:57,483 without Frankie each day, 645 00:34:58,016 --> 00:35:00,146 and she wanted McVeigh locked up 646 00:35:00,183 --> 00:35:03,053 to suffer every day and think about what he did. 647 00:35:03,083 --> 00:35:05,183 I mean, lethal injection, putting somebody to sleep 648 00:35:05,216 --> 00:35:09,296 that has created such pain for so many, 649 00:35:09,333 --> 00:35:12,103 I mean, that's too damn easy. 650 00:35:12,133 --> 00:35:16,003 Man: I was so angry and so full of revenge. 651 00:35:16,033 --> 00:35:19,173 It's hard to explain what you go through, 652 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,420 but I finally decided that killing him 653 00:35:21,450 --> 00:35:23,370 was not what I wanted. 654 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,080 Is that going to help me to heal? 655 00:35:26,116 --> 00:35:28,296 Tim McVeigh wanted the world to think that he didn't care 656 00:35:28,333 --> 00:35:31,103 if he was put to death. 657 00:35:31,133 --> 00:35:34,023 He felt he had already won. 658 00:35:34,050 --> 00:35:38,170 [ McVeigh ] 659 00:35:59,350 --> 00:36:02,450 ♪♪ 660 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:06,350 Woman: The jurors in 661 00:36:06,383 --> 00:36:08,323 the Timothy McVeigh sentencing 662 00:36:08,350 --> 00:36:11,030 of the Oklahoma City bombing trial 663 00:36:11,066 --> 00:36:13,376 have sentenced Timothy McVeigh to death. 664 00:36:13,416 --> 00:36:16,316 [ McVeigh ] 665 00:36:22,133 --> 00:36:25,183 Man: McVeigh sees himself as a martyr to the cause, 666 00:36:25,216 --> 00:36:29,176 and he decides to drop his appeals 667 00:36:29,216 --> 00:36:32,166 and to not put any roadblocks in the way 668 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:36,370 so that his execution can go on as planned. 669 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:42,330 ♪♪ 670 00:36:42,366 --> 00:36:45,396 When McVeigh's execution day came around, 671 00:36:45,433 --> 00:36:48,103 it was quite a big deal. 672 00:36:48,133 --> 00:36:50,323 Outside the execution chamber, 673 00:36:50,350 --> 00:36:52,430 you have enormous numbers of people 674 00:36:52,466 --> 00:36:55,446 demonstrating against the death penalty. 675 00:36:55,483 --> 00:36:58,423 Man: It's wrong to take a person's life. 676 00:36:58,450 --> 00:37:01,180 God will forgive you for all sins. 677 00:37:01,216 --> 00:37:03,396 Man: And you also had an enormous amount of people 678 00:37:03,433 --> 00:37:06,373 demonstrating, you know, "Kill him." 679 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,220 Man: Reference to older times. 680 00:37:08,250 --> 00:37:14,350 ♪♪ 681 00:37:14,383 --> 00:37:18,283 And he's on this gurney with this huge, white sheet on him. 682 00:37:18,316 --> 00:37:21,146 Man: And they ask him two, maybe three times 683 00:37:21,183 --> 00:37:23,403 did he have anything to say? 684 00:37:23,433 --> 00:37:30,033 What I was looking for was maybe some apology or something, 685 00:37:30,066 --> 00:37:31,296 just saying, "I'm sorry. 686 00:37:31,333 --> 00:37:34,133 And he never uttered a word. 687 00:37:34,166 --> 00:37:37,016 There was a moment where he sat up as best he could 688 00:37:37,050 --> 00:37:39,200 and made eye contact with each person 689 00:37:39,233 --> 00:37:41,253 and deliberately spending at least a second 690 00:37:41,283 --> 00:37:44,383 with each of us, and then moving down the row. 691 00:37:44,416 --> 00:37:46,076 That was the moment where he still seemed 692 00:37:46,116 --> 00:37:49,316 to be holding on to Tim McVeigh, the soldier. 693 00:37:49,350 --> 00:37:52,020 Man: And all of a sudden, you started seeing the tubes 694 00:37:52,050 --> 00:37:53,380 were kind of swaying 695 00:37:53,416 --> 00:37:58,176 as the chemicals came up into them one at a time. 696 00:37:58,216 --> 00:38:01,326 [ McVeigh ] 697 00:38:04,350 --> 00:38:06,300 33-year-old Timothy McVeigh, 698 00:38:06,333 --> 00:38:08,423 a decorated Persian Gulf War veteran 699 00:38:08,450 --> 00:38:13,450 and a mass murderer, was executed this morning. 700 00:38:13,483 --> 00:38:19,203 We watched the execution here in Oklahoma City, 701 00:38:19,233 --> 00:38:22,023 and I felt nothing. 702 00:38:22,050 --> 00:38:25,350 I didn't feel any sadness. 703 00:38:25,383 --> 00:38:29,083 I didn't feel any happiness. 704 00:38:29,116 --> 00:38:31,166 I just felt dead inside. 705 00:38:33,466 --> 00:38:35,326 George W. Bush: The victims of the Oklahoma City bombing 706 00:38:35,366 --> 00:38:39,346 have been given not vengeance but justice. 707 00:38:39,383 --> 00:38:42,303 For the survivors of the crime, 708 00:38:42,333 --> 00:38:46,433 and for the families of the dead, the pain goes on. 709 00:38:49,050 --> 00:38:52,220 Coverdale: There's not a day that goes by 710 00:38:52,250 --> 00:38:55,470 that I don't think about my boys. 711 00:38:56,016 --> 00:39:00,466 And I'd love to see them now because they'd be young men. 712 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,470 Welch: My daughter Julie is on my mind most all the time. 713 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:11,000 When your parents die, you go to the hilltop, and you bury them. 714 00:39:11,033 --> 00:39:14,203 And when your children die, you bury them in your heart, 715 00:39:14,233 --> 00:39:15,423 and it's forever. 716 00:39:15,450 --> 00:39:18,420 It never goes away. 717 00:39:18,450 --> 00:39:21,370 Tom Kight: And I see Frankie in her daughter. 718 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,130 You know, she'll turn a certain way, 719 00:39:24,166 --> 00:39:25,416 and she doesn't look exactly like her, 720 00:39:25,450 --> 00:39:31,330 but there will be a certain just -- you know? 721 00:39:31,366 --> 00:39:35,266 Woman: The years that followed the bombing were really dark, 722 00:39:35,300 --> 00:39:38,170 but I kept going back in time to that moment 723 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,470 when I looked up at the sky, and I promised God, 724 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:42,420 "I'll never live my life the same." 725 00:39:42,450 --> 00:39:45,020 I had a second chance. 726 00:39:45,050 --> 00:39:52,130 I've worked to improve by losing weight, from over 355 pounds. 727 00:39:52,166 --> 00:39:57,326 I was buried alive wishing I had a child, 728 00:39:57,366 --> 00:40:00,126 thinking I'm gonna die without ever being a mother. 729 00:40:00,166 --> 00:40:04,196 And today, I'm the proud mother of a 19-year-old. 730 00:40:04,233 --> 00:40:05,383 I've gone back to school. 731 00:40:05,416 --> 00:40:09,366 I became president, CEO of the same credit union 732 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,230 that I was working at that day, 733 00:40:11,266 --> 00:40:14,226 the same credit union I started out as a teller. 734 00:40:14,266 --> 00:40:18,996 I can't even explain to you how dramatically different 735 00:40:19,033 --> 00:40:23,053 my life is now than my life was before. 736 00:40:23,083 --> 00:40:25,323 Woman: I have just tried to live a good life 737 00:40:25,350 --> 00:40:31,000 and try to appreciate every day that I have. 738 00:40:31,033 --> 00:40:34,283 My daughter ended up being born on her due date. 739 00:40:34,316 --> 00:40:36,326 She came out perfectly healthy. 740 00:40:36,366 --> 00:40:40,296 And she is now 23, and she graduated from college, 741 00:40:40,333 --> 00:40:44,303 and she is aspiring to be a teacher. 742 00:40:44,333 --> 00:40:47,203 Man: When something bad happens, 743 00:40:47,233 --> 00:40:50,383 there is this tendency to think that it's somebody else. 744 00:40:50,416 --> 00:40:52,246 "It's not us." 745 00:40:52,283 --> 00:40:55,333 The thing that I think we learned 746 00:40:55,366 --> 00:40:59,276 is not only can an American do this, 747 00:40:59,316 --> 00:41:02,246 but somebody that served in the military. 748 00:41:02,283 --> 00:41:04,233 This is homegrown. 749 00:41:04,266 --> 00:41:06,416 McVeigh really thought that this bombing 750 00:41:06,450 --> 00:41:08,370 would kick off the revolution, 751 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,100 that Americans from coast to coast 752 00:41:11,133 --> 00:41:14,103 would realize how evil the government had become 753 00:41:14,133 --> 00:41:17,083 and would rise up and smash the state. 754 00:41:17,116 --> 00:41:20,196 And I think he realized quite clearly by the time he died, 755 00:41:20,233 --> 00:41:22,383 it didn't happen, and it wasn't gonna happen. 756 00:41:22,416 --> 00:41:28,026 ♪♪ 757 00:41:28,066 --> 00:41:30,296 Timothy McVeigh's accomplice Terry Nichols 758 00:41:30,333 --> 00:41:33,333 was sentenced to life in prison without parole. 759 00:41:33,366 --> 00:41:36,346 Michael Fortier agreed to testify against McVeigh 760 00:41:36,383 --> 00:41:39,153 in exchange for a 12-year prison sentence 761 00:41:39,183 --> 00:41:42,133 and is now in the witness protection program. 762 00:41:42,166 --> 00:41:45,066 Five years after the cowardly attack, 763 00:41:45,100 --> 00:41:47,120 President Bill Clinton dedicated a memorial 764 00:41:47,150 --> 00:41:50,050 to the victims and survivors on the site 765 00:41:50,083 --> 00:41:53,023 where the Alfred Murrah Building once stood. 766 00:41:53,050 --> 00:41:59,250 It features 168 empty chairs, one for each of the lives lost. 767 00:41:59,283 --> 00:42:00,453 I'm hill harper. 768 00:42:00,483 --> 00:42:02,303 Thanks for watching. 59573

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