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Welcome to
"How it Really Happened."
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I'm Hill Harper.
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Timothy McVeigh detonated
a 7,000-pound truck bomb
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in Oklahoma City,
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killing 168 innocent people,
including 19 children.
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After McVeigh was arrested,
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Americans were told
the shocking news.
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This was not the work
of a foreign terrorist,
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but a horror committed
by one of our very own,
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a young man who'd once
fought for American lives
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in the first Gulf War.
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The question everyone
asked now was,
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How could a decorated
American soldier
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turn into a deadly
American terrorist?
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Here's how it really happened.
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Woman: There are four elements
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that I have to receive
information regarding --
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Man: This information just now
coming into the CNN center,
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and we have learned
that there has been
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a large explosion
at the Federal Building.
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Woman: In the Alfred Murrah
building, some type of explosion
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has blown the side
of the building off.
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Man: There was a boom,
and the building shook,
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and the ceiling fell in.
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Woman: It just kept falling.
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It was a horrible noise,
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horrible noise.
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Man: There was nothing left.
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Woman: I thought it was the end
of the world.
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I just didn't know what else,
what other explanation
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it could be
for what I was experiencing.
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Even after I got out of the
building, I was scared to death.
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I just thought for sure that my
life was going to end that day.
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Being six months pregnant,
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I was really scared
for my daughter.
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I hadn't felt her move
since the explosion.
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Man: We rush down there.
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It was pandemonium and hysteria.
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My stepdaughter, Frankie, worked
at the federal credit union
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in the Murrah building.
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It was on the third floor.
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When we got down there,
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there was no Frankie.
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Frankie had a daughter
by the name of Morgan,
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who was 2.
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You hope for the best
and prepare for the worst,
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but that's easy to say
and hard to do.
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Man: Dogs were brought in,
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and highly sensitive microphones
were used
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in hopes of finding people
still alive.
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Woman: I couldn't see anything.
I was completely buried alive.
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I was actually still in my chair
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and upside down
in this rubble pile.
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Rescuers came and began
working to get me out,
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and they worked until about
3:00-something that afternoon
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until they were able
to pull me out.
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And I remember looking around
and thinking,
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"This is a movie.
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This isn't real."
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It looked like a war zone.
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Man: At one point,
rescuers found a woman
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trapped under debris.
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She was pinned underneath this
enormous amount of wreckage,
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pinned by one of her legs.
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Man: She was lying in water.
She was hypothermic.
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Her blood pressure was falling.
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And so, at that point,
there was no decision
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made other than to crawl
into the space
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and perform an amputation
and bring the patient out.
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The only choice really was
to either do that or to die.
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Potok: And ultimately he runs
out of scalpels,
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and he remembers he has a little
pen knife in his pocket,
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and the doctor actually manages
to finish the amputation
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with this pen knife
that's about that long.
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-How is she now?
-She's doing fine.
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I think she's stable.
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Man: I don't understand how
anybody in this world
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could conceive to do something
like that to innocent people.
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Less than two hours
after the bombing,
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Timothy McVeigh
got arrested.
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The police really got
a lucky break.
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McVeigh didn't have a license
plate on his getaway car.
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Investigators soon tied
Timothy McVeigh
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back to the rental truck
that was carrying the bomb.
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And the world was introduced
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to the 26-year-old terrorist
from upstate New York.
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Man:
McVeigh, when you met him,
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you were surprised
at how affable he was,
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easy to talk to.
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We learned that he was
from a very ordinary,
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normal American family.
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Like many young men,
his parents were divorced.
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He was bullied as a kid
and struggled to find his way.
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Then he found a true friend
in his grandfather.
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His grandfather was
really into guns
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and taught Timothy McVeigh
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at a very young age
how to shoot.
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Man:
He had a great love of guns,
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and I believe that's what
led him to sign up
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and join the Army.
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He loved being in the Army,
and he loved shooting.
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He was an expert marksman.
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Soldiers did not see
a terrorist in the making.
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They saw him as being a true
battle buddy, a true comrade.
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Man: McVeigh's end game
with the Army
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was to become a member of
Special Forces, a Green Beret.
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He wanted to be a part
of the elite.
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The Army is satisfying
his desire to shoot weaponry.
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And one of the things
he really excelled at
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was the Bradley
fighting vehicle.
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It's an armor-plated vehicle.
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It has a 25-millimeter
cannon on it.
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And he actually becomes
the top gun in his company.
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So, at this point McVeigh
feels like
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he's at the top of the world.
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But then one event
would really change everything.
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Man: Probably the most single
important moment
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in the kind of radicalization
of Tim McVeigh
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is when he takes a shot
at an Iraqi soldier
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standing 2,000 yards away.
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People we talked to who were
in his unit that witnessed
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this told us that it was like
seeing somebody step up
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and get a hole in one
on the first hole.
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Man: He was a hero for that.
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He got a Bronze Star and later
would be promoted to sergeant.
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You think that would something
he'd be proud of,
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but for McVeigh, it became,
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"Why am I killing
Iraqi soldiers?
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They haven't done
anything bad to me.
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I'm out here shooting
these people.
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They're just like I am."
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McVeigh talked about it
in an interview on "60 Minutes."
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I went over there hyped up,
just like everyone else.
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Not only is Saddam evil --
all Iraqis are evil.
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What I experienced, though,
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was an entirely
different ball game.
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And being face-to-face,
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close with these people
in personal contact,
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you realize they're
just people like you.
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He started to realize
that America, in his mind,
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was the biggest, meanest,
cruelest bully
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in the entire world.
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Man: To see those images
of children
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being pulled out of that
building is just incredible.
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Woman: I remember screaming,
and I said,
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"I left my boys
in there this morning."
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Man: For McVeigh, he couldn't
really understand,
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"Why am I killing
Iraqi soldiers?
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They haven't done
anything bad to me."
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All: Hoo-ah!
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Man: He's still not quite sure,
though,
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he's gonna continue
in the military
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because what he really
wants in life
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is to be in Special Forces.
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Tim McVeigh wants to be
a Green Beret.
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Man: He gets this call
for the Special Forces,
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and he's heading back
to the States
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to go through
the training for that.
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I think he would have put aside
his growing hatred
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for the government
if he could have been going out
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after the enemies of the state
around the globe.
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But you have to be
in optimum physical shape
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for the Special Forces,
and he's nowhere near that.
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He essentially flunks.
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Man: This is a massive
disappointment for McVeigh.
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He quits the Army altogether.
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He's disillusioned, and he moves
back to Pendleton
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in upstate New York.
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It's cold.
It's wet.
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His family isn't much to him.
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And he's just kind of kicking
around, not knowing what to do.
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Man: He came home with
a whopping case of PTSD
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from the war,
as evidenced by the fact
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that one day
in the middle of February,
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he shows up
at his grandfather's house...
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Man: He was just going through
so much pain
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because he was considered
a war hero,
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and he just couldn't make it in
the real world outside the Army.
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Ultimately, Timothy McVeigh
leaves New York.
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Man: He essentially becomes
kind of a road warrior.
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He's simply rootlessly moving
around the country.
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He was searching for something,
something to belong to,
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something to take
the place of the Army.
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And he found that at gun shows.
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There's nothing that McVeigh
loved more in the world
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than guns.
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Man: Once he enters the world
of the gun shows,
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he's really in the universe
of the radical right.
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The gun shows are just alive
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with the anti-government
movement.
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Man: He would meet people there
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that were convinced that
Bill Clinton
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was going to send soldiers
to every home in the country
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and take guns away
from law-abiding citizens.
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As smart as he was,
he was very impressionable.
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More and more, he's getting
wrapped up
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in their conspiracy theories.
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People are selling books
like Hitler's diary,
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"Mein Kampf,"
at these shows.
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But the book that influenced him
the most was a book
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he had been reading
before he joined the military.
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It's called
"The Turner Diaries,"
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which becomes sort of
a must-read
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for people in that
right-wing group.
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"The Turner diaries" was written
by the leader
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of the most serious
neo-Nazi group in America,
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the National Alliance.
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Man: The backbone of
"The Turner Diaries"
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is this story about this
right-wing patriot
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who sees tyrannical
government overreach
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and that he has to be
the one to save the day.
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Ultimately, the book kind of
culminates in this man
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blowing up the FBI headquarters
building in Washington, D.C.
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It is a work of fiction,
but it may have been a blueprint
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for what happened
in Oklahoma City.
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McVeigh copied those details
down to very small matters --
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the same kind of truck bomb
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and a whole number of
other factors.
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Tim McVeigh, he's already
absorbed quite a lot of ideology
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about the wickedness
of the government,
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and he's angry.
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And then things start happening
that just fuel his anger.
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Woman: Scores of federal agents
and police have surrounded
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the Idaho cabin
of 44-year-old Randy Weaver.
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Weaver is reputedly a member
of the white-supremacist group
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the Aryan Nation.
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Man: Weaver had been under
surveillance since February 1991
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after refusing
to appear in court
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on a federal
weapons charge.
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After Randy weaver fails
to appear in court,
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U.S. Marshals go to his property
to arrest him.
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Then, disaster ensues.
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There was a fire fight between
Randy weaver's family
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and U.S. Marshals.
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Man: Weaver's 14-year-old son,
Sam, and Marshal William Degan
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were killed August 21st.
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The next day, weaver's wife
was shot in the head
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by an FBI sniper.
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Man: Anti-government people
feel very strongly
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that Randy Weaver's family
was slaughtered there.
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You gonna kill all the children?
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You're gonna have nightmares
about this!
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Baby killer!
Baby killer!
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You're a baby killer!
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Baby killer!
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Man: Ruby Ridge became
a rallying cry
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for the anti-government folks,
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Tim McVeigh included.
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Man: And that was just
the beginning.
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Man: How much longer will you
let this go on?
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I just arrived today.
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Man: Now we have a very
large-scale fire breaking out
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on what must be
the south side.
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Man: I was actually there
as a reporter in Oklahoma City,
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covering the story.
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And as I'm kind of running
towards this huge police scene,
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enormous crowds,
cops everywhere,
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I realized,
"My God, it's April 19th.
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It's the whole Waco thing
come back to life."
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Man: About six months
after Ruby Ridge,
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something happens
down in Waco, Texas,
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that enrages Timothy McVeigh
even further.
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An ATF task force is
investigating a compound
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run by a sort of
religious cultist,
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a man named David Koresh.
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Man: The so-called
"Branch Davidians"
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were people who sold weapons
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and manufactured
illegal weapons for money.
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So, they were very much
in the kind of gun trade.
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Man: The ATF makes a bold move.
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They decide to storm
the compound in a surprise raid.
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[ Gunfire ]
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No one's gonna hurt me
or my family.
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That's -- that's -- that's
American policy here,
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'cause this ain't America
anymore when the ATF
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has that kind of power
to come into anybody's home
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and kick doors down
and things like that.
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Woman: Four agents were killed
and more than a dozen wounded
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in a blistering
45-minute shoot-out
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when agents arrived
at the compound this morning.
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Man: Inside the compound,
David Koresh was shot.
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Six of his followers
were killed.
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Man: The whole world
is watching this,
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and with the whole world
is Timothy McVeigh.
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And what McVeigh and the rest
of the radical right is seeing
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is, this is what the government
will do to people
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who have unusual political ideas
and are into weaponry.
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And after that disaster,
when David Koresh refuses
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to lead his followers out,
the FBI takes over.
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Man: And the Waco confrontation
begins --
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what ultimately turns out
to be a 51-day standoff
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between an enormous array
of Federal Forces
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and something like 100 of these
so-called "Branch Davidians."
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There were completely, 100%
innocent children in there
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who were in there
because their parents were.
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What about the babies
and the women?!
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Don't you care about them?!
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Woman: How could you miss what
was going on in Waco back then?
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It was on the news
every single night.
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I was a journalism major,
and I went down to Waco
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to find another angle to that
story to write for the paper.
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Just arrived today.
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I met this gentleman sitting
on the hood of his car,
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selling bumper stickers.
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He felt strongly that
David Koresh
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had his rights violated
by having his compound stormed,
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and he also felt that Americans
were losing their rights.
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[ McVeigh ]
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Rauch: His overall message was,
"We need to fear the government.
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They're coming, just like
they did with David Koresh."
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Man:
McVeigh eventually went home,
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but like the rest of the world,
he kept watching.
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And, finally, after about
seven weeks of negotiations,
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the FBI decides
to make a move --
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a very aggressive move.
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♪♪
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Man: Federal Agents bring in
Bradley fighting vehicles,
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and they start to inject
CS gas into the building.
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Man: See, they've made
a massive hole
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in the side of that building.
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All of the sudden,
there's a lick of flame.
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Comes out of one side
of the building.
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Man: Now we have a very
large-scale fire
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breaking out on what
must be the south side.
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[ McVeigh ]
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♪♪
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Man:
There are children in there,
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as well as some 65-other people
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who are burning to death
at this very moment.
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[ McVeigh ]
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♪♪
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♪♪
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♪♪
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After Waco, McVeigh started
to formulate his plan.
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This was his act of war
against the U.S. Government.
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[ McVeigh ]
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♪♪
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And he goes through a number
of different scenarios.
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But none of these things
seem like
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they're really gonna be enough,
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that they're not gonna
get the attention,
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grab the government
by the throat
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and make it change
its evil ways.
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Man: McVeigh was gonna commit
a bombing
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and make it the worst bombing
America had ever seen.
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So, he started little by little
to gather the materials
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he needed to make this bomb.
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Man: A bomb he planned to carry
in the back of a truck,
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and to build it,
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he needed to get his hands
on ammonium nitrate,
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a highly explosive
fertilizer.
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So, he starts going to places
that sell ammonium nitrate.
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Man: And he knows, for the size
explosion he wants,
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he's gonna have to get
a ton of fertilizer.
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But he also doesn't want
to raise suspicion.
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Man: So, he buys a couple
of hundred pounds here,
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and then he buys a couple
of hundred pounds here,
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trying to stay below the radar.
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Man: But McVeigh realizes
at some point
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that he can't do this all alone.
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Man: So, he turned to two
fellow soldiers
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that he had met
in the Army years earlier,
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00:22:00,233 --> 00:22:02,333
Terry Nichols
and Michael Fortier.
403
00:22:02,366 --> 00:22:05,026
Both of them shared McVeigh's
really intense
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00:22:05,066 --> 00:22:06,276
hatred of the government.
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But the planner of all this
was McVeigh.
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The other two guys
were basically flunkies.
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They got a couple of
storage units,
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and they put in five or six
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50-pound bags of
ammonium nitrate.
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What is tougher is the fuel
that they need to mix with it.
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For that you need
a very high-powered fuel.
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Nitromethane racing fuel to act
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as the main accelerant
in the bomb.
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Man: So, they end up going down
to the Texas Motorplex
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south of Dallas,
416
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:47,030
and McVeigh poses
as a rider needing the fuel.
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People he's trying to buy it
from are a little shocked
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because you use
tiny amounts of this fuel.
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To buy three barrels
is unheard of.
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The first guy in fact
refuses to sell to him.
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He doesn't believe that he's
really gonna use this
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00:22:59,100 --> 00:23:01,170
for racing, as he claims.
423
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:05,430
Ultimately, he finds a second
seller, who does sell it to him.
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And so, they gradually
built up their supplies.
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Man: During this time, McVeigh
is scouting the country,
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00:23:14,150 --> 00:23:16,120
trying to determine
where the bomb is going
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to have the most impact.
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00:23:18,133 --> 00:23:20,053
There are several federal
buildings in the country
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that get looked at
as possible sites for the bomb.
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[ McVeigh ]
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Man: McVeigh's criteria was to
cause the maximum amount
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of damage
to law enforcement.
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He picked the Murrah building
after finding it in a phonebook.
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Man: He wanted the building,
once it was bombed,
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to present an incredible
spectacle.
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00:23:59,300 --> 00:24:03,270
[ McVeigh ]
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Man: And he chose a date
in history
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that for him
was very significant --
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the second anniversary
of the fire at Waco.
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♪♪
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Man: McVeigh was kind of
the ultimate soldier.
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All that mattered to him
was the mission,
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00:24:24,150 --> 00:24:26,400
and, by golly,
he was gonna carry it out.
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00:24:32,266 --> 00:24:33,996
Welcome back.
445
00:24:34,033 --> 00:24:36,183
The Oklahoma City bombing
took the nation by surprise,
446
00:24:36,216 --> 00:24:38,296
forcing Americans everywhere
to confront an evil
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00:24:38,333 --> 00:24:40,333
they never knew existed.
448
00:24:40,366 --> 00:24:42,146
Timothy McVeigh
claimed his bomb
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was meant to sent a message to
the U.S. Government.
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00:24:45,050 --> 00:24:48,370
But, in reality, the devastation
in Oklahoma City
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was felt most by
the everyday Americans
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he claimed to be
fighting for.
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Man:
McVeigh got up that morning,
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looked around his truck,
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00:25:00,333 --> 00:25:03,123
and headed off
to Oklahoma City,
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00:25:03,150 --> 00:25:05,330
ready to wreak havoc
on the world.
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Woman:
With regard to this proceeding,
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basically there
are four elements
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that I have to receive
information regarding --
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[ Rumbling ]
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Man: A car bomb ripped apart
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a federal building
in Oklahoma City.
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Hundreds are injured.
Many are dead.
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Woman:
I remember screaming,
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"I left my boys in there
this morning."
466
00:25:32,366 --> 00:25:35,246
I had two grandsons
in the daycare center
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at the Murrah Building.
468
00:25:37,133 --> 00:25:42,073
Aaron was 5, and Elijah was 2.
469
00:25:42,100 --> 00:25:44,050
When I got them dressed
that morning,
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I think Elijah had on a shirt
with a teddy bear.
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When I got to the building,
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I approached the building
from one side
473
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that didn't have any damage.
474
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And so, some of the panic
went away
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00:26:01,383 --> 00:26:06,253
until I walked around to
the other side of the building.
476
00:26:06,283 --> 00:26:09,003
There was no building.
477
00:26:09,033 --> 00:26:12,183
All the building was laying
in the street.
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00:26:12,216 --> 00:26:18,326
When I saw that,
I sort of went crazy.
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Man: My goodness.
480
00:26:19,466 --> 00:26:22,026
There's got to be people
dead in there.
481
00:26:22,066 --> 00:26:24,366
Coverdale: I kept saying,
"I've got to go in there."
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Somebody grabbed my arm,
483
00:26:26,116 --> 00:26:29,096
and I remember jerking
my arm away from them,
484
00:26:29,133 --> 00:26:31,423
and I got upset
485
00:26:31,450 --> 00:26:34,170
because they wouldn't let me
go in the building.
486
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:38,350
But there was no place to go,
anyway.
487
00:26:38,383 --> 00:26:42,433
Some of the other parents,
and they came up to me,
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00:26:42,466 --> 00:26:44,476
and I was still screaming,
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00:26:45,016 --> 00:26:50,466
and they didn't know where
their children were, either.
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00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,280
[ Screaming indistinctly ]
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00:26:54,316 --> 00:26:58,166
Let me in!
[ Screaming ]
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00:27:00,100 --> 00:27:01,300
Man: You can't help that.
493
00:27:01,333 --> 00:27:03,283
The parent in you comes out.
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00:27:03,316 --> 00:27:05,046
If that were my kid in there,
495
00:27:05,083 --> 00:27:09,133
I would hope somebody would run
in there and get my kid.
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00:27:09,166 --> 00:27:10,376
Man: Now it's like
there's people
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00:27:10,416 --> 00:27:12,076
trying to get into the building.
498
00:27:12,116 --> 00:27:14,446
In your mind, you're always
thinking you're gonna maybe
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00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,080
find that one more person alive.
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That drove a lot of people
to keep going.
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00:27:20,450 --> 00:27:23,270
Man: There's injured people all
over the place, way up there.
502
00:27:23,300 --> 00:27:26,250
I always had a lot of faith,
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00:27:26,283 --> 00:27:29,353
and I remember talking to God
and I'd say,
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00:27:29,383 --> 00:27:31,053
"Just let them be alive.
505
00:27:31,083 --> 00:27:33,453
If they're injured, that's okay.
506
00:27:33,483 --> 00:27:35,203
I'll take care of them.
507
00:27:35,233 --> 00:27:37,273
But just let them be alive."
508
00:27:37,300 --> 00:27:39,130
I mean, they were babies.
509
00:27:39,166 --> 00:27:43,146
Man: My partner had just picked
up a little boy,
510
00:27:43,183 --> 00:27:46,103
and he was walking out
with him, holding him.
511
00:27:46,133 --> 00:27:50,403
He had this look on his face,
and I asked, "Is he alive?"
512
00:27:50,433 --> 00:27:53,233
And he said,
"No, Jerry, he's not."
513
00:27:53,266 --> 00:27:57,076
And I remember that he had
a sweater on,
514
00:27:57,116 --> 00:28:00,996
and it had a picture of a
teddy bear on the front of it.
515
00:28:01,033 --> 00:28:02,453
I took this little boy over to
516
00:28:02,483 --> 00:28:04,323
what now has become
a makeshift morgue,
517
00:28:04,350 --> 00:28:07,250
which is the playground
where the kids played.
518
00:28:07,283 --> 00:28:10,203
We laid him down,
and a nurse came by,
519
00:28:10,233 --> 00:28:12,223
and she took a tag,
520
00:28:12,250 --> 00:28:15,280
and she wrapped it
around his little foot,
521
00:28:15,316 --> 00:28:18,396
and, boy, I tell you what,
that hit home.
522
00:28:18,433 --> 00:28:20,203
That really hit home.
523
00:28:20,233 --> 00:28:26,203
♪♪
524
00:28:26,233 --> 00:28:28,023
Man: We're hoping that some
of these youngsters
525
00:28:28,050 --> 00:28:31,200
that are still trapped in that
building will not come out dead,
526
00:28:31,233 --> 00:28:33,103
but we can find them.
527
00:28:33,133 --> 00:28:36,303
Bill Clinton:
The bombing in Oklahoma City
528
00:28:36,333 --> 00:28:40,053
was an attack on
innocent children
529
00:28:40,083 --> 00:28:42,273
and defenseless citizens.
530
00:28:42,300 --> 00:28:47,150
It was an act of cowardice,
and it was evil.
531
00:28:47,183 --> 00:28:51,373
♪♪
532
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,050
Coverdale:
Three days after the bombing,
533
00:28:54,083 --> 00:28:55,403
I heard somebody call my name.
534
00:28:55,433 --> 00:28:59,333
That's when they told me
they had found their bodies.
535
00:28:59,366 --> 00:29:05,146
And I remember screaming,
screaming at God, "I begged you.
536
00:29:05,183 --> 00:29:07,203
I begged you to let them
be alive,
537
00:29:07,233 --> 00:29:10,483
and you didn't even hear me."
538
00:29:11,016 --> 00:29:12,376
To see those images of children
539
00:29:12,416 --> 00:29:15,366
being pulled out of that
building is just incredible.
540
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,120
I think this sends a shock wave
throughout America.
541
00:29:18,150 --> 00:29:20,430
The photograph that's really
become iconic
542
00:29:20,466 --> 00:29:22,346
of the Oklahoma City bombing
543
00:29:22,383 --> 00:29:26,233
is of a fireman holding one
of the youngest victims,
544
00:29:26,266 --> 00:29:27,466
Baylee Almon.
545
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:32,000
A gentleman came up to me and
said he had a critical infant.
546
00:29:32,033 --> 00:29:34,023
And he handed me a baby.
547
00:29:34,050 --> 00:29:38,450
And the first thing I did was
check her for any signs of life,
548
00:29:38,483 --> 00:29:40,073
which I didn't find any.
549
00:29:40,100 --> 00:29:42,370
So, I walked across the street
with the baby
550
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,370
and looked at the paramedic
and told him,
551
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,150
"I have a critical infant."
552
00:29:46,183 --> 00:29:50,353
And I remember looking at her,
thinking that somebody's world
553
00:29:50,383 --> 00:29:53,123
is getting ready
to be turned upside down,
554
00:29:53,150 --> 00:29:54,480
'cause I knew her fate.
555
00:29:55,016 --> 00:29:59,216
Woman: He's a toddler.
He's about 20 months old.
556
00:29:59,250 --> 00:30:04,180
Man: At the end of the day,
there were 168 people killed,
557
00:30:04,216 --> 00:30:09,046
and that 168 people included
19 small children.
558
00:30:09,083 --> 00:30:12,123
Man: Got one here!
Got a child here!
559
00:30:12,150 --> 00:30:14,200
Man: Out of the way.
560
00:30:14,233 --> 00:30:15,433
Man: We got the call.
561
00:30:15,466 --> 00:30:19,116
Frankie had been
positively identified.
562
00:30:19,150 --> 00:30:21,450
I just don't know that there's
any formula
563
00:30:21,483 --> 00:30:25,083
that you can follow
to prepare for the worst
564
00:30:25,116 --> 00:30:28,266
and especially when it comes
to losing a child,
565
00:30:28,300 --> 00:30:31,100
not at 23,
in the prime of life.
566
00:30:31,133 --> 00:30:32,383
And then you're thinking,
"What are you gonna tell
567
00:30:32,416 --> 00:30:36,046
a two-year-old?
What about her mom?"
568
00:30:36,083 --> 00:30:39,233
Man: On the morning of
April the 19th, 1995,
569
00:30:39,266 --> 00:30:42,246
my daughter Julie Marie died.
570
00:30:42,283 --> 00:30:46,073
Julie worked as a Spanish
translator for Social Security,
571
00:30:46,100 --> 00:30:49,020
on the first floor
of the Murrah Building.
572
00:30:49,050 --> 00:30:50,180
She had gone to
the Social Security
573
00:30:50,216 --> 00:30:52,376
waiting room
to get a client,
574
00:30:52,416 --> 00:30:55,446
and had she been at her office,
she would have been okay
575
00:30:55,483 --> 00:30:58,423
because there was no one killed
in her work area.
576
00:30:58,450 --> 00:31:00,250
But she was killed
because she had left
577
00:31:00,283 --> 00:31:03,123
and went to the front
of the building.
578
00:31:03,150 --> 00:31:07,230
After Julie's death,
I went through a lot of grief,
579
00:31:07,266 --> 00:31:09,326
and I went to
the bomb site each day,
580
00:31:09,366 --> 00:31:12,126
felt a special closeness
by going there.
581
00:31:12,166 --> 00:31:14,446
Man: A cleansing rain
fell in Oklahoma City,
582
00:31:14,483 --> 00:31:18,173
as thousands of mourners
in a solemn processional
583
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,330
made their way
past the bomb site.
584
00:31:20,366 --> 00:31:22,996
The survivors and families
of victims
585
00:31:23,033 --> 00:31:26,423
each placed a single rose
amidst the debris.
586
00:31:26,450 --> 00:31:30,330
It was a void
that you can't fill,
587
00:31:30,366 --> 00:31:34,466
and that became
the beginning of a long road.
588
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,330
Woman:
The judge has sworn the jury,
589
00:31:36,366 --> 00:31:39,266
and opening statements
have begun.
590
00:31:39,300 --> 00:31:43,470
[ McVeigh ]
591
00:31:50,283 --> 00:31:54,223
♪♪
592
00:31:54,250 --> 00:31:55,480
Woman:
The jury is in the courtroom.
593
00:31:56,016 --> 00:31:57,346
The judge has sworn the jury,
594
00:31:57,383 --> 00:32:00,133
and opening statements
have begun in the trial
595
00:32:00,166 --> 00:32:03,346
of United States
versus Timothy McVeigh.
596
00:32:03,383 --> 00:32:05,353
Man: When McVeigh came in
every morning
597
00:32:05,383 --> 00:32:09,323
before the jury showed up,
he was smirking, laughing,
598
00:32:09,350 --> 00:32:12,170
flirting with any women
on his team.
599
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,450
[ McVeigh ]
600
00:32:17,350 --> 00:32:19,280
Potok: But when it was time
to all rise,
601
00:32:19,316 --> 00:32:22,116
he would go
into his soldier mode.
602
00:32:22,150 --> 00:32:26,300
I think the prosecution put on
a very, very good case.
603
00:32:26,333 --> 00:32:29,173
They went through how
they acquired the materials,
604
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:30,470
how the bomb was built.
605
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,300
I remember every Friday
afternoon,
606
00:32:33,333 --> 00:32:36,283
some of the last witnesses
of the day
607
00:32:36,316 --> 00:32:40,026
for that week would be victims
608
00:32:40,066 --> 00:32:43,276
so that the jurors were left
over the weekend
609
00:32:43,316 --> 00:32:47,046
with a feeling
of what it was like to be there
610
00:32:47,083 --> 00:32:50,473
or to have lost someone
during the bombing.
611
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,120
[ McVeigh ]
612
00:33:11,333 --> 00:33:14,053
Man: The picture that emerged
of McVeigh
613
00:33:14,083 --> 00:33:18,273
was of this very manipulative
and very selfish person,
614
00:33:18,300 --> 00:33:22,120
who didn't really care about
any of the people around him.
615
00:33:22,150 --> 00:33:24,180
Coverdale:
Sitting in the courtroom,
616
00:33:24,216 --> 00:33:25,316
I'd just stare at him,
617
00:33:25,350 --> 00:33:31,100
and I would wish
that my mind would reach out
618
00:33:31,133 --> 00:33:34,383
because I wanted to know why.
619
00:33:34,416 --> 00:33:36,276
Why did you do this?
620
00:33:36,316 --> 00:33:40,216
Potok: Timothy McVeigh wanted
to have a necessity defense,
621
00:33:40,250 --> 00:33:43,150
that he needed to blow up
the federal building
622
00:33:43,183 --> 00:33:46,183
because the federal government
was an imminent threat
623
00:33:46,216 --> 00:33:49,376
to the life and liberty
of American citizens everywhere.
624
00:33:49,416 --> 00:33:53,076
But Tim McVeigh's lawyer
absolutely disagreed.
625
00:33:53,116 --> 00:33:57,066
McVeigh's attorney argued that
this was a broader conspiracy
626
00:33:57,100 --> 00:34:01,070
and that Timothy McVeigh
was really just a foot soldier.
627
00:34:01,100 --> 00:34:03,300
But I think anyone who sat
through the trial
628
00:34:03,333 --> 00:34:05,373
would believe the same thing:
629
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,430
that Timothy McVeigh
was guilty of the bombing.
630
00:34:08,466 --> 00:34:11,196
Woman: It is a decision that has
had much of the nation
631
00:34:11,233 --> 00:34:12,423
holding its breath.
632
00:34:12,450 --> 00:34:15,050
Today, the federal jury
handed down its verdicts
633
00:34:15,083 --> 00:34:19,333
against Timothy McVeigh --
guilty on all counts.
634
00:34:19,366 --> 00:34:22,416
[ Reporter ]
635
00:34:28,316 --> 00:34:31,116
Man: And now the question
for the jury was,
636
00:34:31,150 --> 00:34:34,120
"Should McVeigh
be sentenced to die?"
637
00:34:34,150 --> 00:34:38,080
Coverdale: You know, I wanted
Tim to get the death penalty.
638
00:34:38,116 --> 00:34:40,476
I have never believed
in capital punishment,
639
00:34:41,016 --> 00:34:43,296
but that's what anger
does to you.
640
00:34:43,333 --> 00:34:46,333
I want the man
to spend a very --
641
00:34:46,366 --> 00:34:49,476
till he draws his last breath
in solitary confinement.
642
00:34:50,016 --> 00:34:52,096
Tom Kight: Marsha thought it was
too easy.
643
00:34:52,133 --> 00:34:54,253
She was gonna have to live
the rest of her life
644
00:34:54,283 --> 00:34:57,483
without Frankie each day,
645
00:34:58,016 --> 00:35:00,146
and she wanted McVeigh
locked up
646
00:35:00,183 --> 00:35:03,053
to suffer every day
and think about what he did.
647
00:35:03,083 --> 00:35:05,183
I mean, lethal injection,
putting somebody to sleep
648
00:35:05,216 --> 00:35:09,296
that has created such pain
for so many,
649
00:35:09,333 --> 00:35:12,103
I mean,
that's too damn easy.
650
00:35:12,133 --> 00:35:16,003
Man: I was so angry
and so full of revenge.
651
00:35:16,033 --> 00:35:19,173
It's hard to explain
what you go through,
652
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,420
but I finally decided
that killing him
653
00:35:21,450 --> 00:35:23,370
was not what I wanted.
654
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,080
Is that going to help me
to heal?
655
00:35:26,116 --> 00:35:28,296
Tim McVeigh wanted the world
to think that he didn't care
656
00:35:28,333 --> 00:35:31,103
if he was put to death.
657
00:35:31,133 --> 00:35:34,023
He felt he had already won.
658
00:35:34,050 --> 00:35:38,170
[ McVeigh ]
659
00:35:59,350 --> 00:36:02,450
♪♪
660
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:06,350
Woman: The jurors in
661
00:36:06,383 --> 00:36:08,323
the Timothy McVeigh sentencing
662
00:36:08,350 --> 00:36:11,030
of the Oklahoma City bombing
trial
663
00:36:11,066 --> 00:36:13,376
have sentenced
Timothy McVeigh to death.
664
00:36:13,416 --> 00:36:16,316
[ McVeigh ]
665
00:36:22,133 --> 00:36:25,183
Man: McVeigh sees himself
as a martyr to the cause,
666
00:36:25,216 --> 00:36:29,176
and he decides
to drop his appeals
667
00:36:29,216 --> 00:36:32,166
and to not put
any roadblocks in the way
668
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:36,370
so that his execution
can go on as planned.
669
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:42,330
♪♪
670
00:36:42,366 --> 00:36:45,396
When McVeigh's execution day
came around,
671
00:36:45,433 --> 00:36:48,103
it was quite a big deal.
672
00:36:48,133 --> 00:36:50,323
Outside the execution chamber,
673
00:36:50,350 --> 00:36:52,430
you have enormous numbers
of people
674
00:36:52,466 --> 00:36:55,446
demonstrating against
the death penalty.
675
00:36:55,483 --> 00:36:58,423
Man: It's wrong to take
a person's life.
676
00:36:58,450 --> 00:37:01,180
God will forgive you
for all sins.
677
00:37:01,216 --> 00:37:03,396
Man: And you also had
an enormous amount of people
678
00:37:03,433 --> 00:37:06,373
demonstrating, you know,
"Kill him."
679
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,220
Man:
Reference to older times.
680
00:37:08,250 --> 00:37:14,350
♪♪
681
00:37:14,383 --> 00:37:18,283
And he's on this gurney with
this huge, white sheet on him.
682
00:37:18,316 --> 00:37:21,146
Man: And they ask him two,
maybe three times
683
00:37:21,183 --> 00:37:23,403
did he have anything to say?
684
00:37:23,433 --> 00:37:30,033
What I was looking for was maybe
some apology or something,
685
00:37:30,066 --> 00:37:31,296
just saying, "I'm sorry.
686
00:37:31,333 --> 00:37:34,133
And he never uttered a word.
687
00:37:34,166 --> 00:37:37,016
There was a moment where
he sat up as best he could
688
00:37:37,050 --> 00:37:39,200
and made eye contact
with each person
689
00:37:39,233 --> 00:37:41,253
and deliberately spending
at least a second
690
00:37:41,283 --> 00:37:44,383
with each of us,
and then moving down the row.
691
00:37:44,416 --> 00:37:46,076
That was the moment
where he still seemed
692
00:37:46,116 --> 00:37:49,316
to be holding on
to Tim McVeigh, the soldier.
693
00:37:49,350 --> 00:37:52,020
Man: And all of a sudden,
you started seeing the tubes
694
00:37:52,050 --> 00:37:53,380
were kind of swaying
695
00:37:53,416 --> 00:37:58,176
as the chemicals
came up into them one at a time.
696
00:37:58,216 --> 00:38:01,326
[ McVeigh ]
697
00:38:04,350 --> 00:38:06,300
33-year-old Timothy McVeigh,
698
00:38:06,333 --> 00:38:08,423
a decorated
Persian Gulf War veteran
699
00:38:08,450 --> 00:38:13,450
and a mass murderer,
was executed this morning.
700
00:38:13,483 --> 00:38:19,203
We watched the execution
here in Oklahoma City,
701
00:38:19,233 --> 00:38:22,023
and I felt nothing.
702
00:38:22,050 --> 00:38:25,350
I didn't feel any sadness.
703
00:38:25,383 --> 00:38:29,083
I didn't feel any happiness.
704
00:38:29,116 --> 00:38:31,166
I just felt dead inside.
705
00:38:33,466 --> 00:38:35,326
George W. Bush: The victims of
the Oklahoma City bombing
706
00:38:35,366 --> 00:38:39,346
have been given not vengeance
but justice.
707
00:38:39,383 --> 00:38:42,303
For the survivors of the crime,
708
00:38:42,333 --> 00:38:46,433
and for the families
of the dead, the pain goes on.
709
00:38:49,050 --> 00:38:52,220
Coverdale: There's not a day
that goes by
710
00:38:52,250 --> 00:38:55,470
that I don't think about
my boys.
711
00:38:56,016 --> 00:39:00,466
And I'd love to see them now
because they'd be young men.
712
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,470
Welch: My daughter Julie is on
my mind most all the time.
713
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:11,000
When your parents die, you go to
the hilltop, and you bury them.
714
00:39:11,033 --> 00:39:14,203
And when your children die,
you bury them in your heart,
715
00:39:14,233 --> 00:39:15,423
and it's forever.
716
00:39:15,450 --> 00:39:18,420
It never goes away.
717
00:39:18,450 --> 00:39:21,370
Tom Kight: And I see Frankie
in her daughter.
718
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,130
You know, she'll turn
a certain way,
719
00:39:24,166 --> 00:39:25,416
and she doesn't look
exactly like her,
720
00:39:25,450 --> 00:39:31,330
but there will be
a certain just -- you know?
721
00:39:31,366 --> 00:39:35,266
Woman: The years that followed
the bombing were really dark,
722
00:39:35,300 --> 00:39:38,170
but I kept going back in time
to that moment
723
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,470
when I looked up at the sky,
and I promised God,
724
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:42,420
"I'll never live
my life the same."
725
00:39:42,450 --> 00:39:45,020
I had a second chance.
726
00:39:45,050 --> 00:39:52,130
I've worked to improve by losing
weight, from over 355 pounds.
727
00:39:52,166 --> 00:39:57,326
I was buried alive
wishing I had a child,
728
00:39:57,366 --> 00:40:00,126
thinking I'm gonna die
without ever being a mother.
729
00:40:00,166 --> 00:40:04,196
And today, I'm the proud mother
of a 19-year-old.
730
00:40:04,233 --> 00:40:05,383
I've gone back to school.
731
00:40:05,416 --> 00:40:09,366
I became president,
CEO of the same credit union
732
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,230
that I was working at that day,
733
00:40:11,266 --> 00:40:14,226
the same credit union
I started out as a teller.
734
00:40:14,266 --> 00:40:18,996
I can't even explain to you
how dramatically different
735
00:40:19,033 --> 00:40:23,053
my life is now
than my life was before.
736
00:40:23,083 --> 00:40:25,323
Woman: I have just tried to live
a good life
737
00:40:25,350 --> 00:40:31,000
and try to appreciate
every day that I have.
738
00:40:31,033 --> 00:40:34,283
My daughter ended up
being born on her due date.
739
00:40:34,316 --> 00:40:36,326
She came out perfectly healthy.
740
00:40:36,366 --> 00:40:40,296
And she is now 23,
and she graduated from college,
741
00:40:40,333 --> 00:40:44,303
and she is aspiring
to be a teacher.
742
00:40:44,333 --> 00:40:47,203
Man:
When something bad happens,
743
00:40:47,233 --> 00:40:50,383
there is this tendency to think
that it's somebody else.
744
00:40:50,416 --> 00:40:52,246
"It's not us."
745
00:40:52,283 --> 00:40:55,333
The thing that I think
we learned
746
00:40:55,366 --> 00:40:59,276
is not only can
an American do this,
747
00:40:59,316 --> 00:41:02,246
but somebody that served
in the military.
748
00:41:02,283 --> 00:41:04,233
This is homegrown.
749
00:41:04,266 --> 00:41:06,416
McVeigh really thought
that this bombing
750
00:41:06,450 --> 00:41:08,370
would kick off
the revolution,
751
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,100
that Americans
from coast to coast
752
00:41:11,133 --> 00:41:14,103
would realize how evil
the government had become
753
00:41:14,133 --> 00:41:17,083
and would rise up
and smash the state.
754
00:41:17,116 --> 00:41:20,196
And I think he realized quite
clearly by the time he died,
755
00:41:20,233 --> 00:41:22,383
it didn't happen,
and it wasn't gonna happen.
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♪♪
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Timothy McVeigh's accomplice
Terry Nichols
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was sentenced to life
in prison without parole.
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Michael Fortier agreed
to testify against McVeigh
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in exchange for
a 12-year prison sentence
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and is now in
the witness protection program.
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Five years after
the cowardly attack,
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President Bill Clinton
dedicated a memorial
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to the victims and survivors
on the site
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where the Alfred Murrah Building
once stood.
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It features 168 empty chairs,
one for each of the lives lost.
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I'm hill harper.
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Thanks for watching.
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