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Don't go.
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They just want to talk with
me and then I can go home.
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I promise you Cam
I will come home to you,
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I promise you.
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My Cam,
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I dream
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sometimes at night,
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I dream that we are
still fighting the war,
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and that my friends
are still alive.
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I dream that the Americans
haven't left and at my side
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was my friend,
my brother, Ripley
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[Laughing]
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What do you think about
the great American General
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Bob Hope?
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What is the one thing you
said that you would
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never do while you're in Vietnam?
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This is rat, isn't it?
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[Laughing]
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I just don't understand how
our many victories on the
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battlefield could end like this?
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[Music]
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Vietnam was a country
of such great promise.
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For many years, the western
world would call it the pearl
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of the orient for its
beauty and for its people.
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The Vietnamese were not
the only ones who knew of the
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treasures of their land,
for a thousand years,
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they fought the Chinese,
then the Mongols came,
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then the French and
then the Japanese.
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When the Second World War ended,
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the people believed that
their journey for freedom was
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finally over, but no,
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their greatest suffering
was yet to come.
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Ladies and gentleman,
tonight I have the distinct pleasure
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of introducing a true American hero,
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Major John Ripley served two
tours in Vietnam and earned
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the Navy Cross, to you I present,
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Major John Ripley.
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Well, thank you for
that kind introduction,
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I appreciate it.
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I'd like to start off by
thanking you all for inviting
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me here today to speak.
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America is out of Vietnam,
we lost a lot of men over there.
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Is it worth supporting the
Vietnamese in their fight
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against communism?
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Let me tell you, it is.
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I want to tell you about my
personal Vietnamese friend
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that I fought with,
Major Le Ba Binh.
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This is the bravest
man I ever fought with.
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He's been fighting the
communist for 12 years
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straight and he's still fighting.
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Are they worth it?
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Let me tell you, they are worth it.
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Wake up, hey, wake up.
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Get up.
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It's time to get up friend.
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Let's go.
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Come on, let's go,
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let's go.
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He got lucky, huh, Binh..
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New prisoners arrived today,
but they are not soldiers,
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they are school teachers,
old government workers,
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musicians, priest, monks.
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The communist tells us that
we are being reeducated
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but we all know it is a prison.
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They told us all would be
forgotten but it is not.
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The communist promise there
would be freedom for us one
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day, but we are all losing
hope that day will ever come.
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The communist try very hard
to act civilized but they are
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far from it.
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I do not see intelligence
in the communist,
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but I do see
shrewdness in them.
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They are not good at many
things except in dividing us
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against each other.
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They know there's little
trust between starving men.
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Hey, one scoop only.
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Yeah.
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yeah, old man,
one scoop only.
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That is exactly what
they want us to do,
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fighting among each other.
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You calm down, brother.
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The NVA will be coming
down right through here,
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they're going to be looking
to take the bridge at Dong Ha.
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Let's put first Rifle Company
on the east side of the bridge,
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let's put second company
on the west side of
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the river.
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What are your thoughts on
where to put Third company?
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Here were go again.
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What?
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I'm sorry Ripley, I was just saying
"Here we go again."
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We always have to wait for
the communist to attack then
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we can fight.
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Let us invade the north
and free our people.
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Let us chase the communist leaders.
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They will go back home to China,
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to Russia, the war will be
ended in a couple of weeks.
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It's simple,
just let us fight.
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Major, I agree.
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Every single American
I ever fought with would agree,
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Let us invade the north,
I mean let's--and let's kill
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every single last
one of the communists,
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let's get this war over with.
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Instead they dump us into
jungle where we could try and
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make us fight an enemy
we can't even see.
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I don't even know what
kind of war we're fighting.
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It's the unwinnable war Ripley.
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Even when we win, we lose.
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Fighting a defensive war
for the South Vietnamese was
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incredibly demoralizing.
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Because many of them wanted
to take the war to the north
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to free what they saw as their
enslaved cousins who still
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remain in the north.
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For the Americans, fighting a
defensive war kept them from
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pursuing the enemy into
their sanctuaries in Laos,
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in North Vietnam and in Cambodia.
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In World War II our fighting
men had clear-cut goals,
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it was on to Berlin, get Hitler,
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on to Tokyo, get Tojo.
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In Vietnam, we had no clear-cut goals,
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it wasn't on to Hanoi to get Ho Chi Minh.
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When a man arrived in Vietnam,
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his main concern was survival,
there was no definition of
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victory, no clear-cut
goals for ending the war in
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a favorable way.
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Another lucky one huh, Binh.
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My father had such wonderful
dreams for the future
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of Vietnam.
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But I know, his dreams were not this.
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They say we are here for the
crimes that we have committed,
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but none of us know
what these crimes are.
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They say that we are all equal,
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but that is the big communist lie.
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Our fellow prisoners are
taken away but we do not know
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where they go.
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They tell us that they are freed,
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but we do not believe them.
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I wish I could say it was a good morning,
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but it isn't.
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We caught two of your
criminal brothers trying to
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escape last night.
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They were so ashamed
by their cowardly act
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that they killed themselves.
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But I don't understand
you, we have given you an
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opportunity to redeem
yourselves for your criminal
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action against the people revolution.
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We bring teachers here to teach
you the proper communist
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way to live, but it's your
dishonorable behavior
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that insults us.
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We will discover which of
you criminals knew about the
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plan of escape.
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Does anyone want to tell me
about the escape last night?
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Come on now,
be my friend, think about it.
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Be my friend,
you can eat like the guards,
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maybe go home early,
that would be nice wouldn't it?
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Imagine sitting at
home with your families,
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your wife cooking
your favorite dinner,
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can't you just smell that food?
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I can smell it, it's good.
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Close your eyes and imagine,
your daughter is next to you,
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what would you say to her?
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Pretend I'm your daughter,
what would you say?
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Nothing?
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Heard a lot of families
are suffering in the South,
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their fathers are gone,
they have no food,
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no place to stay.
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Did you know that many of our
communist brothers have shown
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mercy on these families
and married their mothers,
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doesn't anybody
want to go home early?
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I think he means
home of our ancestors.
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Crazy one, I don't like you.
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Criminal, you look strong today,
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you look well-fed.
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Tell me why that is.
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Wait a minute, I know,
you're stealing rice.
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Confess criminal, confess.
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Are you listening to me?
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Listen to me criminal.
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Look at me, I'm not going
to tell you again criminal.
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I know things have been
difficult since mother died
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but she's still here,
inside your heart.
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Live as though
she's always with you,
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live as she would want you to live,
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with loyalty and honor to your
family and to you country.
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The Japanese are gone now,
and the French too will be
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gone soon.
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You are lucky you're young,
because one day you will live
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in a free Vietnam
where we are own masters.
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Do you hear me criminal?
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Get up criminal, get up.
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We give you everything, everything.
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We forgive you for
your criminal activities,
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we give you the privilege
to work so you can repay the
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party for your criminal acts.
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Yet you still do not cooperate,
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incredible, you still show no gratitude.
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Think about this hero, of
all of those that we had to
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reeducate, the teachers,
the doctors,
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the priest, the monks,
you are the lowest.
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Go to work.
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Ripley.
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Yeah.
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How are you doing?
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Doing okay Major,
I'm doing okay.
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There are probably 20,000
communists over the river,
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they will attack us soon.
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There are 700 of us Ripley.
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They have artilleries,
we have none.
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I know.
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But if we can hold the bridge,
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we can defend Dong Ha..
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But for how long?
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There are no more American troops,
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no more reinforcements,
nobody is coming.
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I understand.
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We have to stop them here Ripley.
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If we can't stop them here,
our dying means nothing.
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Once they pass us,
they go right into Saigon.
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You know I know this, if there is
something you want to tell me?
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Then just tell me.
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We need air support,
we need it now.
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You know we will hold the
position until the very last
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man, but we are
tremendously outgunned,
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outmanned.
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When are the US bombers coming?
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They're not coming.
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We need to hold
the bridge ourselves.
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I understand,
I will tell my men.
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Captain Ripley,
we will hold the bridge.
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This is Major Binh,
Third battalion.
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It has rumoured that
Dong Ha has fallen.
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There are marines in Dong Ha.
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My order is to hold Dong Ha.
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We will fight in Dong Ha
and we will die in Dong Ha.
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As long as there's a marine
drawing breath in Dong Ha,
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Dong Ha will belong to us.
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It's late March,
March 30th 1972.
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Up until this point,
there had been a major lull in
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the combat up in
Northern South Vietnam.
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Things have been relatively
quiet in many areas,
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life had almost returned to
normal for the South Vietnamese
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citizens there and all of a sudden,
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things start to happen in a
rather dramatic fashion and up
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near the demilitarized
zone and out east,
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out of Laos, comes this
major communist invasion that
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materializes into
tens of thousands,
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maybe upwards of a hundred
thousand North Vietnamese
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troops, hundreds of tanks,
regiments of artillery and
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the very finest and
most up-to-date Soviet
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anti-aircraft artillery,
all coming down.
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Lieutenant Colonel Gerry Turley
was the senior American
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advisor in the area at that time.
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They're coming at us
with masses of regiments,
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divisions, four divisions are
coming at us and we're just
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one division here.
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They come in at 12 o'clock,
the artillery begins,
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and the for the next four days,
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in the bunker that I was in,
there was never a time when
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one or two minutes that
wasn't--the interruptions of
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artillery coming in on us.
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What's important to know-to
appreciate is that the North,
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it's forces on the north,
also had their Russian advisors
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with them.
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We were aware of them and
they were certainly aware that
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we Americans were with
the South Vietnamese
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on the back side.
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One of the-- one of the
integral parts of the-- of the
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North Vietnamese attack,
that they begin to shell the cities,
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the villages, Dong Ha,
the other little villages there,
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which were actually no
military value whatsoever.
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The bridge was important,
the city wasn't.
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But in attacking the cities,
they drove the people out on
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to the highways.
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Thousands of people were
pushed on to the roads and the
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North Vietnamese guns had
those roads zeroed in and they
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will simply lob five or
six rounds into the road.
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They would just blow
them apart and like water,
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they would just come back in,
the people who survived
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and--the shelling of the
people was probably the
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hardest thing to take,
whether it was kids or cows or
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buffalos or old people in wagons,
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there was no excuse for it.
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Look, our hero has some life in him.
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TOC, TOC,
this is Co-van three, over.
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TOC, I have
tanks on the north side
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of the Dong Ha bridge,
I say again,
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I have tanks on the north side
of the Dong Ha bridge, over.
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T-54s and PT-76s, over.
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Roger, understand,
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blow the bridge, out.
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[Music]
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I always wanted to
blow up a bridge.
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Guess I'm finally getting my wish.
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Major, I'm going to
need some explosives.
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Ripley, you probably won't
even make it across the field
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to get to the bridge.
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And if you do make it, every one
of the snipers will be on you,
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their tanks will be on you.
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Ripley, it's a suicidal mission.
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Ripley called me on the
phone--radio and said,
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I hear tanks, I see tanks.
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The artillery is coming in,
just the third day of the
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battle, I'm getting tired and I said,
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what kind?
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And he came back and said T-54s,
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PT-76s, those are Soviet-made
tanks and their coming right
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down the road.
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There was a bridge at Dong Ha
that the communist need to
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capture intact.
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It was the only way they
could get their hundreds of
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tanks and 20,000 troops
across the Cua Viet River.
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At Dong Ha, were 700 marines
of Binh's Third Battalion and
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John Ripley.
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It was 700 marines
against at least 20,000,
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a classic David and
Goliath experience shaping up.
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The headquarters--my senior
headquarters in Da Nang,
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80 miles away, said
"Do not blow the bridge."
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I said, "But sir, I have to,
I got to blow the bridge
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otherwise they're
going to be on top of us.
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"Just getting to the bridge--
for Ripley and Binh,
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it was only the
beginning of an awesome task.
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For Ripley, for three hours,
he's under bridge.
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There was a hundred reasons
why he could have called me on
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the radio and said,
"I can't do this."
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He didn't.
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The process of Ripley in
placing these explosives is he
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has to take a box--12 boxes of
explosives out and place them
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in between these I-beams.
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And each time he goes
out, he's holding on to these
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I-beams--these big steel
I-beams--and he's praying his
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way out, saying,
"Jesus, Mary, get me there.
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Jesus, Mary, get me there,"
all the while.
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He is under sniper fire and
occasionally tank fire--a tank
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would fire a round into one
of these I-beam stringers.
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And while it didn't hit him,
it would certainly rock his
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world with sound
and clear his ears.
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Each time out and back
requires incredible physical
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strength that the average
human being in his or her best
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time probably couldn't do.
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Ripley does it and continues
to do it until he gets the
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last box of explosives where
he wants them and finally
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blows the bridge.
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He is utterly spent.
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And once it finally did go up,
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as I said,
the whole battle changed.
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Binh's troops are now probably
down to--probably lost 200 men
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already out of his 800.
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And he's going to lose
almost all the rest of them.
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So, he lost 80% of his
battalion defending--if you
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will, holding the bridge
for Ripley to blow it.
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I'd like to start off by
thanking you all for inviting
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me here today to speak.
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You know, I was just sitting
at the table with my wife here
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and looking around at all
the faces in the crowd.
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And I have to say it's a true
honor to be amongst so many
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people that love America and make
America a great place to live.
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But I'll also have to say
that I am worried for America.
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Now that I've come back home,
I see people in our own
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country rooting for
the communists to win,
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to defeat and to kill our troops.
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I see people living in this
country and enjoying all the
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wonderful things America has
to offer and then I see those
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same people turn around
and say how much
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they hate America.
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I see a movie star living
a lavish lifestyle here in
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America travel to the enemy,
sit at a Russian gun used to
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kill Americans, laughing,
broadcasting to the world how
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evil America is.
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Oh, captain.
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Captain, I have a dream.
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I have a dream, a big dream.
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A dream of democracy.
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That's my dream.
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And together, together,
we could help protect the free
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world from unfair competition
and ensure that future
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generations have a
free world to protect.
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Yes, sir.
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We went down to the base, then you
look at my face and read out an
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order to bar me.
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So, we said Foxtrot, Tango, Alpha.
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Fuck the army and the
navy and the marines.
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Lo, coming in.
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Here it is.
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It's naplam.
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Wow.
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Right on top on the 101st,
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one, two, three, four--five rounds
of mortar fire and two-- make it
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four Huey helicopters down and
the rest are up and going home.
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We got it now into
orderly withdrawal and lying
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motionless on the ground
is Lieutenant Colonel Billy
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Slocum that will be a
fragging penalty for the boys
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in the 101st.
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When the anti-war people
would come to Hanoi,
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it had great impact on us
because they were saying
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freely what we're
being tortured to say.
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The guards who were trained
in torture--they had a--had a
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team, we call the goon squad
and their job was to extract
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information from the prisoners.
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But where the dangers came is
when you had amateurs trying
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to torture you.
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And that's when I sustained
a compound fracture.
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My left arm had a compound
fracture where the bone's
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through the skin,
from the ropes.
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And that's the communist system.
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It was a very brutal,
tough existence.
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And when Donald Sutherland and
Jane Fonda came with the FTA,
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the four letter word, the army.
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They piped it into our cells
through the speakers that they
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control from the
headquarters building.
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It really affected
our morale tremendously.
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I see a man that served three
months in Vietnam come back
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home a self-proclaimed
expert on the war and the
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Vietnamese people.
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I see that same man testify
before congress that it is the
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American Military Policy to rape,
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torture, and murder Vietnamese civilians.
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I see that same man say
that he never did it,
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never saw anybody do it,
but people told him about it,
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but when asked to
name those names,
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he can't name them.
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John, can you tell me about
any war crimes that occurred
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in that unit coastal division 11?
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And a second question,
why didn't you attempt to get out
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of the unit or submit a
request when you were there if
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you saw anything that
shocked a normal man?
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We--well, I'll come
back to the question.
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I'd like you to answer
that question if you will.
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We served--I--you obviously
are quite good on the polished
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rhetoric but I did serve
in the same place you did
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and--not for four months,
but for eighteen months--and
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I never saw anything, and
I'd like you to tell me about the
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war crimes you saw committed
there and also why you didn't
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do something about them?
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I think there's something
particularly pathetic about me
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having to appear on nationwide
television and trade polished
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little phrases with you
to defend the honor of the
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fifty-five thousand
people that died there,
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the two and a half million
of us that served there?
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I think further that the
justification that Hanoi
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uses for keeping our POWs
is that they were engaged in
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criminal acts there and
I think that someone who comes
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out and says exactly the same
something can be doing nothing
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but serving those purposes.
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I find it particularly
remarkable that this gentleman
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who is building his political
career apparently upon the
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misery of all of us
that served there.
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Well, I'm here today to
testify that I spent two years
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in Vietnam and I never
saw any American
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commit those atrocities.
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What I saw were heroes,
decent men and women
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sacrificing for others.
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I saw men put into
impossible situations,
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doing the best that they
could without fanfare.
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Lima Company, 215 of us,
had run into the 324B Regiment of
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the North Vietnamese Army.
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There were some 1,500 of
them and there were 200 of us.
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We kept pushing, kept pushing,
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kept pushing, and
kept backing them up,
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and Ripley was
doing a fantastic job.
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He was right there on
the frontline with us.
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And at the end of the day,
their bodies were all over the place.
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I don't know how many
of them we had killed,
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but we totally decimated
the 324B Regiment.
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Whatever mission they
had been sent out to do,
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we had completely thwarted it.
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That company gunnery sergeant
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reported at the end of the day,
skipper asked for a casualty
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report and he says--skipper he
says there were 215 of us when
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we started the day, by my count,
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he said there's only 15 people
left that haven't been killed
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or wounded.
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And the corpsman finally
comes over and he's putting a
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bandage on and put some
medicine on this cut in my
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leg, and he's writing his card up,
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I said, "Doc, what are you doing?"
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I said, "What's that?"
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And he says, "We're writing
you up for Purple Heart."
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And I said, "Doc, no."
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I said, "Look at these guys.
These guys are Purple Hearts."
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00:42:30,089 --> 00:42:33,051
Sometime after--I don't
remember the exact date,
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but we got some mail flown out
to us--helicoptered out to us.
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And we were going
through the mail.
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And one of the guys in the company
got a letter from his mother.
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And when he opened the letter up,
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there was a newspaper article.
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00:42:44,812 --> 00:42:48,191
And the headline of
this newspaper article was,
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"Ripley's Raiders Route NVA Force."
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And that was the first
time anybody had ever heard
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00:42:55,698 --> 00:42:56,866
Ripley's Raiders.
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00:42:56,866 --> 00:43:01,287
And, you know, we passed that
article around and everybody
492
00:43:01,287 --> 00:43:02,497
was reading it, and we said,
"We kind of like that."
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So, the rest of
our tour over there,
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00:43:04,707 --> 00:43:07,043
Captain John Ripley became
Ripley's Raiders and we
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were his men.
496
00:43:08,503 --> 00:43:11,506
And that's the way it is today.
497
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,803
Now, I'm not going to stand here
and say that no American
498
00:43:16,803 --> 00:43:18,930
ever did anything bad in Vietnam.
499
00:43:18,930 --> 00:43:23,684
During stressful times,
people make mistakes.
500
00:43:23,684 --> 00:43:28,189
And anytime you have two million
guys in one place,
501
00:43:28,189 --> 00:43:31,275
there's going to be bad
guys that do bad things,
502
00:43:31,275 --> 00:43:34,695
but they do not
represent all of us.
503
00:43:34,695 --> 00:43:39,534
If those lies do
not go unchallenged,
504
00:43:39,534 --> 00:43:44,956
it will be their version of
history that is taught to our
505
00:43:44,956 --> 00:43:45,915
children in the schools.
506
00:43:45,915 --> 00:43:52,547
Our troops will be the monsters
and the communists the heroes.
507
00:43:52,547 --> 00:43:56,217
John Ripley is probably the best,
508
00:43:56,217 --> 00:44:00,388
finest leader I've ever
known in a human being.
509
00:44:00,388 --> 00:44:03,141
He was a outstanding combat leader.
510
00:44:03,141 --> 00:44:05,268
People would've--we would've
followed him anywhere.
511
00:44:05,268 --> 00:44:07,353
If he'd--he said saddle up,
we're going to go attack Ho
512
00:44:07,353 --> 00:44:11,399
Chi Minh and Hanoi all by
ourselves we'd all gone,
513
00:44:11,399 --> 00:44:12,525
we'd have gone with him.
514
00:44:12,525 --> 00:44:15,194
I loved the guy.
515
00:44:15,194 --> 00:44:18,322
Worst day of my life
when he--when he died.
516
00:44:18,322 --> 00:44:21,951
I felt like I lost
my closest brother.
517
00:44:23,828 --> 00:44:26,831
I would like to leave you
with this one final message:
518
00:44:26,831 --> 00:44:31,252
Draw a line in the sand.
519
00:44:31,252 --> 00:44:34,839
No more lies.
520
00:44:34,839 --> 00:44:37,341
Do not be quiet.
521
00:44:37,341 --> 00:44:38,551
Do not walk away.
522
00:44:38,551 --> 00:44:41,137
Draw the line in the sand.
523
00:44:41,137 --> 00:44:45,141
The lies end here.
524
00:44:45,141 --> 00:44:48,686
Thank you.
525
00:46:00,758 --> 00:46:05,846
My dear Cam, the days here
seem to be getting longer and
526
00:46:05,846 --> 00:46:11,268
harder or maybe I'm just
getting weaker and weaker.
527
00:46:20,778 --> 00:46:25,533
Is this the communist
paradise they told us about?
528
00:46:36,377 --> 00:46:39,547
I'm just too tired now to be angry.
529
00:46:40,131 --> 00:46:42,049
I just don't understand.
530
00:46:42,049 --> 00:46:44,760
We all don't understand.
531
00:46:45,761 --> 00:46:48,514
It's been so long.
532
00:46:53,352 --> 00:46:57,148
Is the world watching us?
533
00:46:57,148 --> 00:47:00,317
Where's the Red Cross?
534
00:47:02,528 --> 00:47:05,573
Where is the American press?
535
00:47:06,657 --> 00:47:09,118
Are we forgotten?
536
00:47:13,122 --> 00:47:16,751
A lot of Americans really
don't understand how vicious
537
00:47:16,751 --> 00:47:18,586
the Viet Cong were.
538
00:47:18,586 --> 00:47:21,964
And I saw this dramatically.
539
00:47:21,964 --> 00:47:26,552
In early 1969, I was a rifle
company commander in the 5th
540
00:47:26,552 --> 00:47:32,058
Marines, stationed in Bien Hoa
combat base south of Da Nang
541
00:47:32,058 --> 00:47:36,270
and we had one of those
periodic truces, Tet Truce.
542
00:47:36,270 --> 00:47:40,107
The U. S. government said that
we're going to try to convince the
543
00:47:40,107 --> 00:47:42,526
communists to come to
the table and bargain
544
00:47:42,526 --> 00:47:43,736
and what have you.
545
00:47:43,736 --> 00:47:44,570
We're going to have a truce.
546
00:47:44,570 --> 00:47:46,614
And because of that,
the marines had to pull in all the
547
00:47:46,614 --> 00:47:48,115
patrols inside the wire.
548
00:47:48,115 --> 00:47:51,786
And we were told to stay out
of the villages and what not.
549
00:47:51,786 --> 00:47:55,790
Well, the Viet Cong
took advantage of that.
550
00:47:55,790 --> 00:47:58,709
What was called an Armed
Propaganda Team came out of
551
00:47:58,709 --> 00:48:04,423
the mountains, went into a village
adjacent to the combat base.
552
00:48:04,423 --> 00:48:07,885
Normally, we would have
marines in that base providing
553
00:48:07,885 --> 00:48:09,512
security but we had
to pull them out.
554
00:48:09,512 --> 00:48:12,056
Communists knew that
because of the truce.
555
00:48:12,056 --> 00:48:13,808
They moved in there at night.
556
00:48:13,808 --> 00:48:19,355
They went to the home of
the chief of the village.
557
00:48:19,355 --> 00:48:22,358
And they pulled him out,
his wife out,
558
00:48:22,358 --> 00:48:23,484
and his five children.
559
00:48:23,484 --> 00:48:28,656
They then proceeded to cut
the throats of the children in
560
00:48:28,656 --> 00:48:30,950
the presence of their
parents one at a time.
561
00:48:30,950 --> 00:48:36,414
And they did this to the
villagers--villagers and the
562
00:48:36,414 --> 00:48:38,165
tenants or a large
number of the villagers.
563
00:48:38,165 --> 00:48:41,961
It was sort of a group
trial of the village chief.
564
00:48:41,961 --> 00:48:46,966
After killing the children,
they shot the wife in the head
565
00:48:46,966 --> 00:48:51,220
in front of her husband and
then they proceeded to shoot
566
00:48:51,220 --> 00:48:54,640
the village chief several
times in sensitive parts of
567
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:58,227
his body before cutting his
throat and cutting off his
568
00:48:58,227 --> 00:48:59,854
head and placing it on a stake.
569
00:48:59,854 --> 00:49:04,525
They attached to the stake a
statement that this man was a
570
00:49:04,525 --> 00:49:05,401
government official.
571
00:49:05,401 --> 00:49:08,487
He was evil and corrupt
and he deserved to die.
572
00:49:08,487 --> 00:49:09,905
Well, that was not the case.
573
00:49:09,905 --> 00:49:12,283
He was a very popular
village chief because he
574
00:49:12,283 --> 00:49:13,784
was very good.
575
00:49:13,784 --> 00:49:14,618
And that's why they killed him.
576
00:49:14,618 --> 00:49:16,787
But as Lenin
577
00:49:16,787 --> 00:49:20,499
says the purpose of
terrorism is terror and it had
578
00:49:20,499 --> 00:49:23,627
a very, very sobering
impact on those people
579
00:49:23,627 --> 00:49:24,628
living in the village.
580
00:49:24,628 --> 00:49:26,589
Those villagers
were not communists.
581
00:49:26,589 --> 00:49:30,551
They were not VC, but they
were very frightened that the
582
00:49:30,551 --> 00:49:34,138
Armed Propaganda Team would
come back in there and again
583
00:49:34,138 --> 00:49:37,057
kill people like the village chief.
584
00:49:45,691 --> 00:49:48,903
I have met a new friend
here that I have become
585
00:49:48,903 --> 00:49:51,071
very close to.
586
00:49:51,071 --> 00:49:53,824
He is a school teacher named Dong.
587
00:49:53,824 --> 00:49:55,201
He's a good man.
588
00:49:55,201 --> 00:49:58,579
You would like him very much.
589
00:49:59,246 --> 00:50:01,457
Hoa is, too, by my side.
590
00:50:01,457 --> 00:50:04,084
But I fear for him.
591
00:50:04,084 --> 00:50:08,923
He still talks before he
thinks and has created many
592
00:50:08,923 --> 00:50:10,674
enemies here.
593
00:50:22,811 --> 00:50:26,106
It's almost time guys,
get close to the jungle.
594
00:50:26,106 --> 00:50:28,442
Almost there.
595
00:50:28,442 --> 00:50:32,238
Come on, come on, okay.
596
00:50:32,238 --> 00:50:34,031
My eye.
597
00:50:34,031 --> 00:50:37,159
Let's go.
598
00:50:37,159 --> 00:50:39,328
Okay.
599
00:50:40,579 --> 00:50:41,914
Let's go.
600
00:51:02,518 --> 00:51:05,229
The jungles are the
walls of our prison,
601
00:51:05,229 --> 00:51:10,234
but we think of
escape every day.
602
00:51:37,553 --> 00:51:41,724
It's siesta time for the guards.
603
00:51:41,724 --> 00:51:44,226
It's meal time for us.
604
00:51:44,226 --> 00:51:44,977
Yup.
605
00:51:44,977 --> 00:51:45,561
That's right.
606
00:51:45,561 --> 00:51:46,854
Oh, look good, huh?
607
00:51:46,854 --> 00:51:49,773
Yeah look good, huh?
608
00:51:49,773 --> 00:51:50,316
There.
609
00:51:50,316 --> 00:51:54,653
If we find a dead calf once a week.
610
00:51:54,653 --> 00:51:58,324
We can stay alive until
we get out here, huh?
611
00:51:58,324 --> 00:51:59,783
Yeah.
612
00:51:59,783 --> 00:52:00,993
That's right.
613
00:52:00,993 --> 00:52:02,286
Thank you, brother.
614
00:52:02,286 --> 00:52:04,747
Yeah with all this good living,
615
00:52:04,747 --> 00:52:07,207
we got to be careful
not to get too fat.
616
00:52:07,207 --> 00:52:09,001
The guards will notice us.
617
00:52:09,001 --> 00:52:11,837
That's it Hoa.
618
00:52:11,837 --> 00:52:13,630
That's it.
619
00:52:13,630 --> 00:52:14,965
You are a genius.
620
00:52:14,965 --> 00:52:19,678
We look just like them, chubby,
621
00:52:19,678 --> 00:52:26,060
chubby, chubby, and we'll walk
out of camp waving goodbye.
622
00:52:36,862 --> 00:52:38,322
Yummy, yummy.
623
00:52:38,322 --> 00:52:39,531
You can't beat this, right?
624
00:52:39,531 --> 00:52:40,741
Uh-hmm.
625
00:52:40,741 --> 00:52:41,283
Uh-hmm.
626
00:52:41,283 --> 00:52:42,493
Good, isn't it?
627
00:52:42,493 --> 00:52:44,536
We need the protein.
628
00:52:52,211 --> 00:52:54,797
I've been thinking
of my little boy.
629
00:52:54,797 --> 00:52:57,716
I miss my son.
630
00:52:57,716 --> 00:53:04,640
I miss my wife.
631
00:53:08,477 --> 00:53:13,816
I want to go home and
we'll get back on our horses,
632
00:53:13,816 --> 00:53:20,239
come back to this town and
burn this goddamn place down.
633
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:23,325
Well, at least you got
something to dream about.
634
00:53:23,325 --> 00:53:29,248
I have given my mother
nothing to dream about.
635
00:53:37,673 --> 00:53:39,633
Hey, guys.
636
00:53:39,633 --> 00:53:41,718
We're all going to get out here.
637
00:53:41,718 --> 00:53:46,515
And Dong, you will have
your time with your
638
00:53:46,515 --> 00:53:48,517
wife and your kids.
639
00:53:48,517 --> 00:53:50,060
Don't think too much.
640
00:53:50,060 --> 00:53:52,146
Keep your head straight.
641
00:53:52,146 --> 00:53:54,314
Yes, Major.
642
00:53:57,609 --> 00:54:04,575
And Hoa, you going to have
time to marry some wonderful
643
00:54:04,575 --> 00:54:07,619
woman and give your
Mom a grandson.
644
00:54:07,619 --> 00:54:10,122
Okay?
645
00:54:16,211 --> 00:54:18,630
Hey, brothers, I'll be back.
646
00:54:18,630 --> 00:54:20,340
Yes, Major Binh.
647
00:54:22,050 --> 00:54:22,634
Okay.
648
00:55:02,674 --> 00:55:05,093
I would rather die escaping
through the jungle than to
649
00:55:05,093 --> 00:55:09,056
live at the feet of the
communists any longer but
650
00:55:09,056 --> 00:55:13,143
I know that if I should ever go.
651
00:55:13,143 --> 00:55:22,402
They will then come for you,
Cam,
652
00:55:22,402 --> 00:55:25,614
I have been long
praying for a miracle.
653
00:55:57,980 --> 00:55:58,981
Time to go, guys.
654
00:55:58,981 --> 00:56:00,065
Brother.
655
00:56:00,065 --> 00:56:01,024
Hey, what took you so long?
656
00:56:01,024 --> 00:56:03,277
We got to get back.
657
00:56:03,277 --> 00:56:04,444
Easy, siesta's over.
658
00:56:04,444 --> 00:56:06,113
I am just glad you went that
far since it took so long.
659
00:56:06,113 --> 00:56:06,863
Let's go.
660
00:56:06,863 --> 00:56:08,574
Let's go on.
661
00:56:08,574 --> 00:56:09,950
Come on, Hoa.
662
00:56:11,201 --> 00:56:13,954
It's very unusual to be-- it's
hard to see how you can be
663
00:56:13,954 --> 00:56:16,290
opposed to the war and
then participate in it.
664
00:56:16,290 --> 00:56:19,710
Well, as I say, my opposition
to the war was not,
665
00:56:19,710 --> 00:56:22,713
at that time,
a strongly moral opposition.
666
00:56:22,713 --> 00:56:25,799
It wasn't an opposition on
grounds of what was happening
667
00:56:25,799 --> 00:56:26,967
in Vietnam.
668
00:56:26,967 --> 00:56:27,426
Uh-hmm.
669
00:56:27,426 --> 00:56:29,720
It was an opposition that
was based on a broad
670
00:56:29,720 --> 00:56:31,221
spectrum on foreign policy.
671
00:56:31,221 --> 00:56:33,807
But what did the South
Vietnamese generally think
672
00:56:33,807 --> 00:56:35,851
of you when you were
there as a soldier?
673
00:56:35,851 --> 00:56:38,228
Are any of
them sympathetic?
674
00:56:38,228 --> 00:56:40,897
Well, I think the
majority hate us.
675
00:56:40,897 --> 00:56:43,025
I think the Vietnamese
people hate us.
676
00:56:43,025 --> 00:56:44,401
And you can sense this.
677
00:56:44,401 --> 00:56:45,110
You can hear it.
678
00:56:45,110 --> 00:56:46,236
One of them I turned to
him and I said,
679
00:56:46,236 --> 00:56:48,113
"What would be the best thing
that we could do for you?"
680
00:56:48,113 --> 00:56:50,782
And he said, "Go home."
681
00:56:50,782 --> 00:56:56,330
And this attitude, I said to one, this is your
country, you have to fight and he said no.
682
00:56:56,330 --> 00:56:58,582
I am so looking forward to seeing
them tonight. (woman's voice)
683
00:56:58,582 --> 00:57:01,335
Yea, me too.
It will be great to see them.
684
00:57:01,335 --> 00:57:03,587
Let me just finish
watching this TV show.
685
00:57:03,587 --> 00:57:06,340
I don't know why
you watch that stuff.
686
00:57:06,340 --> 00:57:10,135
You know, it just upsets you.
687
00:57:12,512 --> 00:57:13,972
I can't believe
what I'm watching.
688
00:57:14,431 --> 00:57:15,724
What am I missing here?
689
00:57:15,724 --> 00:57:18,852
[crosstalk]
All the channels, the news,
they're saying we lost the war?
690
00:57:18,852 --> 00:57:21,521
When we left Vietnam,
we left in victory.
691
00:57:21,521 --> 00:57:23,857
What the hell is going on?
692
00:57:24,441 --> 00:57:25,651
How do you feel about that?
693
00:57:25,651 --> 00:57:28,195
What do have to say about
the fact that if we pulled out,
694
00:57:28,195 --> 00:57:29,196
there would be the blood bath.
695
00:57:29,196 --> 00:57:32,324
That seems to be a persuasive
argument with a lot of people and.
696
00:57:32,324 --> 00:57:34,701
I really don't believe that
there would be a blood bath
697
00:57:34,701 --> 00:57:35,911
and I'll tell you why.
698
00:57:35,911 --> 00:57:39,164
I think that what happened
at Hue--and this is the instance
699
00:57:39,164 --> 00:57:42,042
that's always sided,
the 5000, 3000 people.
700
00:57:42,042 --> 00:57:45,128
If in fact--it did happen then
because nobody heard about then.
701
00:57:45,128 --> 00:57:46,296
They heard about it later.
702
00:57:46,296 --> 00:57:47,506
Uh-hmm.
703
00:57:47,506 --> 00:57:50,550
But what happened there was
part of the pure Maoist Doctrine
704
00:57:50,550 --> 00:57:53,929
of revolution that you must--you
must coerce through terrorism.
705
00:57:53,929 --> 00:57:58,058
And it's in fact the United States
has said that-
706
00:57:58,058 --> 00:58:00,727
and declared that we will
unilaterally withdraw within a
707
00:58:00,727 --> 00:58:02,354
certain specified amount of time.
708
00:58:02,354 --> 00:58:03,105
Uh-hmm.
709
00:58:03,105 --> 00:58:05,023
And we will accept
Hanoi's agreement to have
710
00:58:05,023 --> 00:58:07,943
international supervision
of that withdrawal.
711
00:58:07,943 --> 00:58:10,404
We will offer amnesty to
those people who demand it.
712
00:58:10,404 --> 00:58:13,281
Then there's absolutely no
reason to believe in the world
713
00:58:13,281 --> 00:58:16,159
that there's anything to be
gained by the North Vietnamese
714
00:58:16,159 --> 00:58:18,954
or any other faction
through reprisals.
715
00:58:18,954 --> 00:58:20,914
And I think that really
this is just another form of
716
00:58:20,914 --> 00:58:23,250
red-baiting to keep the
American people feeling
717
00:58:23,250 --> 00:58:25,419
we've got to protect
something that's out there.
718
00:58:26,962 --> 00:58:32,843
Thank you for being here and
we will see you tomorrow night.
719
00:58:43,937 --> 00:58:46,106
How about this?
720
00:58:46,106 --> 00:58:50,485
You turn all that passion
into making your wife happy?
721
00:58:54,656 --> 00:58:55,866
Okay.
722
00:58:57,784 --> 00:58:58,952
Yeah, you're right.
723
00:59:02,914 --> 00:59:03,790
Okay.
724
00:59:03,790 --> 00:59:04,958
Let's go.
725
00:59:16,470 --> 00:59:19,431
You've been stressing more and
more-- about the prisoners of war
726
00:59:19,431 --> 00:59:21,683
left in Vietnam.
727
00:59:22,184 --> 00:59:25,479
What's happening is that a
lot of terribly concerned and
728
00:59:25,479 --> 00:59:29,733
well-intentioned people in America are
putting a great deal of energy
729
00:59:29,733 --> 00:59:34,279
and time and money into a letter
writing campaign to Hanoi.
730
00:59:34,905 --> 00:59:38,158
And without knowing it--and
they're doing a disservice to
731
00:59:38,158 --> 00:59:39,659
the prisoners of war.
732
00:59:39,659 --> 00:59:42,913
For one thing, the post
offices in Hanoi are being
733
00:59:42,913 --> 00:59:46,124
flooded with all this mail,
with all these letters,
734
00:59:46,124 --> 00:59:47,125
all these petitions.
735
00:59:47,125 --> 00:59:51,087
Well, one of the things that
we're being told is that the
736
00:59:51,087 --> 00:59:54,091
Vietnamese are not--are not
releasing all the names of the
737
00:59:54,091 --> 00:59:55,467
prisoners of war.
738
00:59:56,468 --> 01:00:04,017
The other very tragic myth is
that the prisoners are being tortured,
739
01:00:04,017 --> 01:00:07,896
that they're being given barbaric,
inhumane treatment.
740
01:00:07,896 --> 01:00:11,817
Now, overwhelming evidence
says that this isn't true.
741
01:00:11,817 --> 01:00:14,611
There are films that have
been--that have been seen.
742
01:00:14,611 --> 01:00:17,614
People have--numbers of the
people who have been in the
743
01:00:17,614 --> 01:00:19,783
north have seen the prisons,
have talked to prisoners,
744
01:00:19,783 --> 01:00:22,244
have brought the nine
prisoners that have
745
01:00:22,244 --> 01:00:23,161
released out.
746
01:00:23,161 --> 01:00:27,082
Two years later, several of
these men are being allowed to
747
01:00:27,082 --> 01:00:28,375
travel around the country.
748
01:00:28,375 --> 01:00:30,961
Allowed by the Pentagon to
travel around the country
749
01:00:30,961 --> 01:00:34,089
telling horror stories about
tortured tactics
750
01:00:34,089 --> 01:00:37,133
and it's crucial for the American
people to know that
751
01:00:37,133 --> 01:00:38,802
they're not true.
752
01:00:38,802 --> 01:00:42,180
The treatment that is being
given the American prisoners
753
01:00:42,180 --> 01:00:45,934
of war is more humane that the
treatment of any prisoners of
754
01:00:45,934 --> 01:00:47,352
war in the last century in Asia.
755
01:00:47,352 --> 01:00:49,312
What we must all do--you know,
756
01:00:49,312 --> 01:00:55,694
we who care is stop writing
letters to Hanoi and carrying
757
01:00:55,694 --> 01:00:56,987
on this kind of campaign.
758
01:00:57,988 --> 01:01:00,574
The moment I walked
into my first cell,
759
01:01:00,574 --> 01:01:02,909
what I saw in the seven
by nine foot cell was
760
01:01:02,909 --> 01:01:05,161
a concrete slab.
761
01:01:05,161 --> 01:01:10,750
On one end were leg irons
with another leg iron to go
762
01:01:10,750 --> 01:01:13,169
over the ankles which should
be padlocked in the evening.
763
01:01:13,169 --> 01:01:14,713
And the head were manacles.
764
01:01:14,713 --> 01:01:17,382
A month later, they called
me back up to make a tape.
765
01:01:17,382 --> 01:01:19,384
And I said,
"I will not make a tape.
766
01:01:19,384 --> 01:01:23,555
I refuse to make a tape,"
which I'd refused after that point.
767
01:01:23,555 --> 01:01:25,849
And they've said,
"But we can force you."
768
01:01:25,849 --> 01:01:26,808
And I said, Yes.
769
01:01:26,808 --> 01:01:27,934
But you will have to force me.
770
01:01:27,934 --> 01:01:29,769
I will not do it
on my own accord.
771
01:01:29,769 --> 01:01:32,731
Two weeks into my torture,
I reached the point that I had
772
01:01:32,731 --> 01:01:33,857
nothing else left to give.
773
01:01:33,857 --> 01:01:35,817
I had lost about
50 pounds of weight,
774
01:01:35,817 --> 01:01:38,361
half rations, no use of my
hands--they've
775
01:01:38,361 --> 01:01:40,614
been--from rope torture.
776
01:01:40,614 --> 01:01:44,159
I--my feet--for seven days,
seven nights without sleep,
777
01:01:44,159 --> 01:01:47,329
eating on pitted concrete,
arms over my head,
778
01:01:47,329 --> 01:01:50,040
being beat daily with a
fan belt about 50 times.
779
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:54,002
On one occasion, more than
200 times to raw buttocks with
780
01:01:54,002 --> 01:01:59,007
a rubber strap and that's how
I developed the 39 open wounds
781
01:01:59,007 --> 01:02:00,091
on my whole body.
782
01:02:00,759 --> 01:02:04,554
And it came a time-when the only thing
left was the will that says, "Hang on."
783
01:02:04,554 --> 01:02:06,389
And I said,
God, it's all yours to do.
784
01:02:06,389 --> 01:02:09,059
Whatever you want, I have
nothing more else to give.
785
01:02:09,059 --> 01:02:10,518
And the lesson I learned is this:
786
01:02:10,518 --> 01:02:12,771
Courage is not the absence of fear.
787
01:02:13,021 --> 01:02:14,940
Courage is simply
the presence of faith.
788
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:22,322
Every night, I'd say a little prayer
789
01:02:22,864 --> 01:02:25,325
for the ones who served over there,
790
01:02:25,992 --> 01:02:30,080
for the ones who really don't
care what your politics are
791
01:02:30,914 --> 01:02:34,334
they believe in the stripes,
they believe in the stars.
792
01:02:39,506 --> 01:02:44,386
Dan and Mike are from New York,
volunteered for Vietnam
793
01:02:44,386 --> 01:02:47,597
they went over seas.
794
01:02:47,597 --> 01:02:49,265
Good to see you.
795
01:03:02,862 --> 01:03:04,239
I keep forgetting how old you are.
796
01:03:04,239 --> 01:03:07,242
You look like you could
jump right back into action.
797
01:03:07,242 --> 01:03:10,036
John, are you still waiting
for that homecoming parade?
798
01:03:10,036 --> 01:03:10,453
No.
799
01:03:10,453 --> 01:03:11,246
No, no.
800
01:03:11,246 --> 01:03:12,622
I don't want any parade.
801
01:03:12,622 --> 01:03:15,125
What I want is for us
not to abandon our ally.
802
01:03:15,125 --> 01:03:16,668
You hear what
congress is doing?
803
01:03:16,668 --> 01:03:19,129
Cutting South
Vietnam's military aid.
804
01:03:19,129 --> 01:03:21,923
I mean, what good is the equipment
without the fuel and the ammo?
805
01:03:21,923 --> 01:03:23,466
And they're also
cutting the humanitarian aid.
806
01:03:23,466 --> 01:03:24,384
Why would they do that?
807
01:03:24,384 --> 01:03:26,136
Why would they cut
the aid to the kids?
808
01:03:26,136 --> 01:03:30,390
Now, you know,
that question is easy to answer.
809
01:03:30,390 --> 01:03:34,394
Congress wants
South Vietnam to lose.
810
01:03:34,394 --> 01:03:36,521
It's all bullshit.
811
01:03:36,521 --> 01:03:39,149
It's like the anti-war protesters.
812
01:03:39,149 --> 01:03:43,319
If they were really anti-war,
why don't they ask China and
813
01:03:43,319 --> 01:03:46,156
Russia to get out of Vietnam, too?
814
01:03:46,156 --> 01:03:48,825
Why don't they ask the
communists in North Vietnam
815
01:03:48,825 --> 01:03:52,120
to stop invading South Vietnam?
816
01:03:52,412 --> 01:03:56,124
This is not the America we had
World War II, John.
817
01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:59,085
We had reporter from
the Washington Post,
818
01:03:59,085 --> 01:04:04,299
that's a very--a highly respected
reporter named Peter Braestrup.
819
01:04:04,299 --> 01:04:09,012
And I recall once he and
I were just talking and I ask
820
01:04:09,012 --> 01:04:11,973
him about some of these
stories that appeared in the
821
01:04:11,973 --> 01:04:14,934
paper, I said, they're
just--there's so many falsehoods,
822
01:04:14,934 --> 01:04:18,271
whether they're on
purpose or just ignorance,
823
01:04:18,271 --> 01:04:21,357
I don't know, and he said,
kind of shook his head and said
824
01:04:21,357 --> 01:04:23,943
You know, I'll send a
story back to Washington,
825
01:04:23,943 --> 01:04:26,821
and when I see it in
print with my name on it.
826
01:04:26,821 --> 01:04:30,533
he said. sometimes, I can
hardly recognize the story.
827
01:04:31,368 --> 01:04:33,995
Good evening, the advocates, again,
828
01:04:33,995 --> 01:04:37,332
looks at the subject
of war in Indo-China.
829
01:04:37,332 --> 01:04:40,543
And each side is armed
by its super-power allies,
830
01:04:40,543 --> 01:04:42,462
South Vietnam by
the United States,
831
01:04:42,462 --> 01:04:45,173
North Vietnam by
Russia and China.
832
01:04:45,173 --> 01:04:47,258
Specifically, our question is this,
833
01:04:47,258 --> 01:04:50,678
should we end all
military aid to South Vietnam?
834
01:04:50,678 --> 01:04:54,057
the communist failed to
conquer South Vietnam
835
01:04:54,057 --> 01:04:55,683
by force of arms.
836
01:04:55,683 --> 01:04:59,187
But they can still snatch
victory from the jaws of defeat
837
01:04:59,187 --> 01:05:02,524
if they can persuade
the United States to abandon
838
01:05:02,524 --> 01:05:05,193
all military aid for the
South Vietnamese people.
839
01:05:05,193 --> 01:05:08,530
Mr. Goodman we've talked
about ending the bloodshed,
840
01:05:08,530 --> 01:05:12,951
would cutting military aid
really end the bloodshed in
841
01:05:12,951 --> 01:05:14,702
your opinion?
842
01:05:14,702 --> 01:05:16,830
Yes I think it would,
it would substantially reduced it.
843
01:05:16,830 --> 01:05:21,334
Does the story of the massacre
in Hue by the North Vietnamese
844
01:05:21,334 --> 01:05:26,047
forces when they took that
city and killed thousands upon
845
01:05:26,047 --> 01:05:29,050
thousands of innocent
civilians suggest
846
01:05:29,050 --> 01:05:30,593
contrary to you?
847
01:05:30,593 --> 01:05:31,386
Not at all.
848
01:05:31,386 --> 01:05:35,598
The massacres at Hue was the
sign of a communist failure,
849
01:05:35,598 --> 01:05:36,432
not a success.
850
01:05:36,432 --> 01:05:38,726
Let's take an example
of a communist success,
851
01:05:38,726 --> 01:05:40,937
they're certainly were
successful in taking over the
852
01:05:40,937 --> 01:05:43,481
North much earlier in
1949 and thereafter.
853
01:05:43,481 --> 01:05:47,193
And yet, it is estimated that
a half a million people died
854
01:05:47,193 --> 01:05:50,363
in their purges
after that takeover.
855
01:05:50,363 --> 01:05:53,116
I think the estimates
ranged anywhere from
856
01:05:53,116 --> 01:05:54,784
50,000 to 500,000.
857
01:05:54,784 --> 01:05:56,244
And that's not a blood bath?
858
01:05:56,244 --> 01:05:59,330
The basic point, is A, Ho Chi Minh
acknowledge that as a
859
01:05:59,330 --> 01:06:02,000
mistake, B, it hasn't happened since,
860
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:04,586
and C, North Vietnam
is not South Vietnam.
861
01:06:04,586 --> 01:06:08,047
If the communist walk
into Saigon tomorrow,
862
01:06:08,047 --> 01:06:08,923
they would walk out.
863
01:06:08,923 --> 01:06:12,177
How much bloodshed were there
have been last year if the
864
01:06:12,177 --> 01:06:16,973
North Vietnamese armed forces
had withdrawn from South Vietnam?
865
01:06:16,973 --> 01:06:19,350
I couldn't--I couldn't estimate that.
866
01:06:19,350 --> 01:06:22,228
Well, there wouldn't have been any,
what would the fighting been about
867
01:06:22,228 --> 01:06:24,230
I'm saying there's
a positive step we can take
868
01:06:24,230 --> 01:06:27,358
to restore the peace and to end
the war and we ought to take it.
869
01:06:27,358 --> 01:06:31,237
You stated that in May in 1973,
870
01:06:31,237 --> 01:06:33,489
if I may quote exactly
what you said "America,
871
01:06:33,489 --> 01:06:36,117
Military and economic support.
872
01:06:36,117 --> 01:06:40,788
to the Thieu government
is absolute crucial.
873
01:06:40,788 --> 01:06:42,373
That was wrong?
Yes, and I did.
874
01:06:42,373 --> 01:06:43,625
Why was it wrong?
875
01:06:43,791 --> 01:06:46,461
Because the fundamental problem
that Thieu faces today is
876
01:06:46,461 --> 01:06:48,171
political and economic.
877
01:06:48,171 --> 01:06:49,130
Was it then?
878
01:06:49,130 --> 01:06:51,174
No, I wasn't sure what it was then.
879
01:06:51,174 --> 01:06:51,925
You weren't sure?
880
01:06:51,925 --> 01:06:52,634
Are you sure now?
881
01:06:52,634 --> 01:06:53,343
Yes, I am.
882
01:06:53,343 --> 01:06:55,511
So, now that you've
changed your mind,
883
01:06:55,511 --> 01:06:56,387
you are right?
884
01:06:56,387 --> 01:06:58,932
No more than
anyone of us are right.
885
01:06:58,932 --> 01:07:01,517
Exactly, we're all right and
wrong so it doesn't matter.
886
01:07:01,517 --> 01:07:02,644
But in any case,
you were wrong.
887
01:07:02,644 --> 01:07:03,770
That's right.
888
01:07:03,770 --> 01:07:07,232
In the case, you're perfectly
prepared to assure the people
889
01:07:07,232 --> 01:07:10,193
of South Vietnam that they
have no bloodshed or purge to
890
01:07:10,193 --> 01:07:12,403
fear if the communist
take them over,
891
01:07:12,403 --> 01:07:12,987
is that right?
892
01:07:12,987 --> 01:07:13,529
Yes. I am. I'm...
893
01:07:13,529 --> 01:07:16,032
I'm sure they're very happy
to have your assurance but
894
01:07:16,032 --> 01:07:17,909
will you forgive them if
they keep on fighting
895
01:07:17,909 --> 01:07:19,911
anyway, thank you.
896
01:07:21,329 --> 01:07:23,957
When the Paris Agreement was signed,
897
01:07:23,957 --> 01:07:30,922
the North Vietnamese troops were
still staying in South Vietnam,
898
01:07:30,922 --> 01:07:35,385
waiting for the day they would
organize some other offensive and
899
01:07:35,385 --> 01:07:38,930
so we have to make a choice.
900
01:07:38,930 --> 01:07:43,476
And the choice was to accept
the Paris Agreement with the
901
01:07:43,476 --> 01:07:46,479
promise from the
American administration.
902
01:07:46,479 --> 01:07:53,111
That the American's side
would continue to aid
903
01:07:53,111 --> 01:07:55,071
South Vietnam.
904
01:07:55,071 --> 01:08:00,326
And number two,
the US would retaliate against
905
01:08:00,326 --> 01:08:04,497
North Vietnam if North Vietnam
violated the Paris Agreement
906
01:08:04,497 --> 01:08:10,086
but somehow later these two promises
were not kept at all.
907
01:08:10,086 --> 01:08:12,672
And that is why the situation,
908
01:08:12,672 --> 01:08:19,804
deteriorated in '74 up to
the point in 1975 when we had
909
01:08:19,804 --> 01:08:25,143
almost nothing in
terms of ammunition,
910
01:08:25,143 --> 01:08:26,936
in terms of arms.
911
01:08:26,936 --> 01:08:31,024
It looks as if we have our
hands tied behind our back
912
01:08:31,024 --> 01:08:36,029
waiting for the communist
and the Soviet Union
913
01:08:36,029 --> 01:08:39,490
and the Chinese to
come and take Saigon.
914
01:08:45,663 --> 01:08:47,123
Alrighty.
915
01:08:52,712 --> 01:08:53,921
Thanks.
916
01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:58,134
I knew getting together
with you guys would be just
917
01:08:58,134 --> 01:08:59,344
what John needed..
918
01:09:02,847 --> 01:09:04,766
Sir, I saw your speech today.
919
01:09:05,016 --> 01:09:06,267
I just wanted to shake your hand.
920
01:09:07,769 --> 01:09:09,187
You're a true American hero.
921
01:09:09,187 --> 01:09:10,772
Thank you, I appreciate that.
922
01:09:10,772 --> 01:09:12,023
This is my brother.
923
01:09:12,023 --> 01:09:12,648
Hey, how you doing?
924
01:09:12,648 --> 01:09:15,860
Major Ripley, Fox 276869, sir.
925
01:09:15,860 --> 01:09:17,987
Semper Fi
926
01:09:17,987 --> 01:09:19,405
I'm headed off to Paris Island.
927
01:09:19,405 --> 01:09:22,533
Oh, great, excellent,
Semper Fi Marines.
928
01:09:22,533 --> 01:09:23,868
Semper Fi, sir.
929
01:09:23,868 --> 01:09:27,038
Carry on.
930
01:09:30,833 --> 01:09:32,877
My hero.
931
01:09:36,297 --> 01:09:39,050
Yeah, they talk all the time
about fighting the communists
932
01:09:39,050 --> 01:09:41,552
and helping the Vietnamese.
933
01:09:41,552 --> 01:09:44,972
You know, what they're
really doing over there,
934
01:09:44,972 --> 01:09:49,102
killing for the
American businessman.
935
01:09:49,102 --> 01:09:52,647
Do it for the most
corrupt country in the world.
936
01:09:52,647 --> 01:09:55,733
Do it for America.
937
01:09:55,733 --> 01:09:57,485
Do it.
938
01:09:57,485 --> 01:10:02,740
Do it for the land of the free.
939
01:10:04,158 --> 01:10:04,867
Yeah.
940
01:10:06,119 --> 01:10:10,373
They're over there doing some
partying and doing a little dope.
941
01:10:10,373 --> 01:10:15,628
Sampling some of
the local talent,
942
01:10:15,628 --> 01:10:22,051
yeah, and then you come home
to your pretty little wife
943
01:10:22,051 --> 01:10:28,099
like nothing ever happened,
over there trying to help the Vietnamese.
944
01:10:28,099 --> 01:10:31,894
Yeah, well, you know what I think?
945
01:10:32,562 --> 01:10:38,192
I think they're just over there
trying to help themselves.
946
01:10:38,192 --> 01:10:41,112
Imagine that, huh?
947
01:10:41,112 --> 01:10:43,781
Getting medals for killing babies.
948
01:10:43,781 --> 01:10:46,492
Hey, there's no fighting in my bar.
949
01:10:46,492 --> 01:10:49,787
John, sit down.
950
01:10:49,787 --> 01:10:51,497
Sit down.
951
01:10:51,497 --> 01:10:54,500
That's an order.
952
01:10:54,500 --> 01:10:55,626
Let's cool off.
953
01:11:01,382 --> 01:11:03,759
Why don't you go
back to playing in pool?
954
01:11:06,512 --> 01:11:09,348
You're breaking my heart, man.
955
01:11:10,183 --> 01:11:11,476
How long have I
been coming in here?
956
01:11:11,476 --> 01:11:16,981
How much money have
I spent here, huh?
957
01:11:18,357 --> 01:11:22,987
Just cool down, go back and
play some pool or I'm calling
958
01:11:22,987 --> 01:11:25,239
the cops right now.
959
01:11:38,711 --> 01:11:41,881
Semper Fi, G-I.
960
01:11:42,507 --> 01:11:44,175
Carry on.
961
01:11:53,434 --> 01:11:55,770
If you could see the part,
I'm trying to press here and.
962
01:11:55,770 --> 01:11:58,314
Yes, but the people who
are fighting over there,
963
01:11:58,314 --> 01:11:59,816
know why they are fighting.
964
01:11:59,816 --> 01:12:01,609
That's why they're fighting so well.
965
01:12:01,609 --> 01:12:04,320
And if they were a splinter
group in this North Vietnam
966
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:06,531
which you are so fond of
certain viewers are saying to
967
01:12:06,531 --> 01:12:08,533
themselves now and
they tried to put on a show
968
01:12:08,533 --> 01:12:09,867
against the war.
969
01:12:09,867 --> 01:12:13,830
From their point of view,
what would happen to them in
970
01:12:13,830 --> 01:12:15,373
this wonderful people's democracy?
971
01:12:15,373 --> 01:12:17,375
Well, it would be
inconceivable that they would
972
01:12:17,375 --> 01:12:18,835
put on a show against the war.
973
01:12:19,710 --> 01:12:23,923
No, the defeat that
we have suffered is
974
01:12:23,923 --> 01:12:26,592
enormous, it's a Dien Bien Phu
that's taken place.
975
01:12:26,592 --> 01:12:28,469
Why are they
fighting that way?
976
01:12:28,469 --> 01:12:31,722
It's because they know
it's a people's war.
977
01:12:31,722 --> 01:12:33,808
It's truly a war of the people,
978
01:12:33,808 --> 01:12:41,190
by the people and for
the people, you know.
979
01:12:41,190 --> 01:12:43,067
I wish we had more time to
deal with the fact that only
980
01:12:43,067 --> 01:12:44,443
eight people are
applauding, you know,
981
01:12:44,443 --> 01:12:47,446
because it's so complex and
we're jammed and we must...
982
01:12:47,446 --> 01:12:49,448
take a break,
we'll be right back.
983
01:13:02,753 --> 01:13:04,171
I love you, sweetheart.
984
01:13:07,633 --> 01:13:08,884
I'm sorry.
985
01:13:55,181 --> 01:14:03,689
My dear Cam, I dream of you
every day but I'm afraid that
986
01:14:03,689 --> 01:14:06,984
I'm no longer the
man you remembered.
987
01:14:07,401 --> 01:14:10,613
I have been gone
for a very long time.
988
01:14:10,613 --> 01:14:15,368
Some of us here say it's been
five years but no one really
989
01:14:15,368 --> 01:14:17,328
knows for sure.
990
01:14:18,954 --> 01:14:22,541
Time doesn't seem to
exist anymore for us.
991
01:14:37,598 --> 01:14:39,684
Dong
992
01:14:59,328 --> 01:15:02,164
No.
993
01:15:02,164 --> 01:15:07,003
You listen to me.
994
01:15:07,003 --> 01:15:07,795
Look at me.
995
01:15:07,795 --> 01:15:09,255
Look at me.
996
01:15:09,255 --> 01:15:10,005
No.
997
01:15:10,005 --> 01:15:13,467
No. Hoa.
998
01:15:13,467 --> 01:15:17,263
You want to go home.
999
01:15:17,263 --> 01:15:18,764
Hoa
1000
01:15:18,764 --> 01:15:20,641
We want to go home.
1001
01:15:20,641 --> 01:15:22,143
You got to see your Mom.
1002
01:15:22,143 --> 01:15:26,022
You miss her, right?
1003
01:15:26,022 --> 01:15:28,149
Calm down.
1004
01:15:28,149 --> 01:15:31,527
I want to see my daughter.
1005
01:15:31,527 --> 01:15:35,281
I don't want to
go home in a box.
1006
01:15:35,281 --> 01:15:37,992
You hear me?
1007
01:15:44,790 --> 01:15:49,587
We got to go home, man.
1008
01:15:50,421 --> 01:15:52,631
We got to go home.
1009
01:16:07,438 --> 01:16:17,865
My Binh, they all say you have
died but I don't believe them.
1010
01:16:17,865 --> 01:16:28,167
I know you and you are
too stubborn to ever die.
1011
01:16:33,589 --> 01:16:36,926
When you come home.
1012
01:16:39,678 --> 01:16:46,227
I will be here waiting for you.
1013
01:16:50,314 --> 01:16:56,362
Cam, I wonder if you
believe if I'm still alive.
1014
01:17:01,826 --> 01:17:04,036
Every day is the same.
1015
01:17:09,416 --> 01:17:12,837
During the day they
work us like animals.
1016
01:17:17,258 --> 01:17:22,263
We work so hard in the
fields growing food but
1017
01:17:22,263 --> 01:17:24,265
we never see any of it.
1018
01:17:25,140 --> 01:17:28,853
The communist
always try to break us.
1019
01:17:30,396 --> 01:17:37,778
Many have lost hope but
they will never break me.
1020
01:17:44,910 --> 01:17:48,038
The communist
words have no meaning,
1021
01:17:48,038 --> 01:17:51,125
they are all lies.
1022
01:17:55,170 --> 01:18:00,885
They preach many
things but act on nothing.
1023
01:18:02,761 --> 01:18:06,891
They speak of a world
that they know nothing about.
1024
01:18:10,311 --> 01:18:15,232
At the end of the
day, when we are weak,
1025
01:18:15,232 --> 01:18:20,529
they try to brainwash us with
their communist propaganda.
1026
01:18:25,034 --> 01:18:26,285
Long live Ho Chi Minh.
1027
01:18:26,285 --> 01:18:27,578
Long live Ho Chi Minh.
1028
01:18:27,578 --> 01:18:28,245
Altogether.
1029
01:18:28,245 --> 01:18:29,246
Long live, Ho Chi Minh.
1030
01:18:29,246 --> 01:18:30,873
Long live, Ho Chi Minh.
1031
01:18:30,873 --> 01:18:31,999
Long live, Ho Chi Minh.
1032
01:18:31,999 --> 01:18:33,667
Long live, Ho Chi Minh.
1033
01:18:33,667 --> 01:18:34,919
Long live, Ho Chi Minh.
1034
01:18:34,919 --> 01:18:36,712
Long live, Ho Chi Minh.
1035
01:18:36,712 --> 01:18:37,838
Long live, Ho Chi Minh.
1036
01:18:37,838 --> 01:18:39,840
Long live, Ho Chi Minh.
1037
01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:41,175
Long live, Ho Chi Minh.
1038
01:18:41,175 --> 01:18:42,885
Long live, Ho Chi Minh.
1039
01:18:42,885 --> 01:18:44,053
Long live, Ho Chi Minh.
1040
01:18:44,053 --> 01:18:46,597
Long live, Ho Chi Minh.
1041
01:18:48,599 --> 01:18:49,725
This is not a prison.
1042
01:18:51,185 --> 01:18:52,978
This is a re-education camp.
1043
01:18:54,605 --> 01:18:57,608
We are the second largest
military power in the world.
1044
01:19:01,278 --> 01:19:03,447
Be proud of the new Vietnam.
1045
01:19:06,909 --> 01:19:11,705
For many years, you've been
deceived by your teachers,
1046
01:19:13,457 --> 01:19:19,463
your monks, your priest
and your puppet leaders.
1047
01:19:22,258 --> 01:19:23,509
This is a mistake.
1048
01:19:26,387 --> 01:19:29,181
Uncle Ho has
brought light to us all.
1049
01:19:30,557 --> 01:19:31,976
There's no Buddha,
1050
01:19:32,810 --> 01:19:34,228
there's no Jesus
1051
01:19:35,020 --> 01:19:38,482
but there's only Uncle Ho.
1052
01:19:40,776 --> 01:19:42,236
Long live, Ho Chi Minh.
1053
01:19:42,236 --> 01:19:43,737
Long live, Ho Chi Minh.
1054
01:19:43,737 --> 01:19:44,947
Long live, Ho Chi Minh.
1055
01:19:45,155 --> 01:19:46,532
Long live, Ho Chi Minh.
1056
01:19:54,748 --> 01:19:56,000
What are you doing?
1057
01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:56,917
Dong hold this.
1058
01:19:56,917 --> 01:19:58,168
Hold this and hide it.
1059
01:19:59,253 --> 01:20:00,254
Give it to my wife.
1060
01:20:00,254 --> 01:20:01,797
She must know
what happened to me.
1061
01:20:02,006 --> 01:20:03,090
Do it for me, Dong.
1062
01:20:03,716 --> 01:20:05,217
Okay.
1063
01:20:10,514 --> 01:20:13,183
It's time to come with me hero.
1064
01:20:16,103 --> 01:20:16,562
No.
1065
01:20:16,562 --> 01:20:18,188
No, he had done nothing.
1066
01:20:18,188 --> 01:20:23,527
Stop, that's okay,
you can come too.
1067
01:20:26,905 --> 01:20:27,865
No.
1068
01:20:28,449 --> 01:20:29,283
No.
1069
01:20:38,334 --> 01:20:39,460
Long live, Ho Chi Minh.
1070
01:20:39,585 --> 01:20:41,545
Long live, Ho Chi Minh.
1071
01:20:42,046 --> 01:20:43,172
Long live, Ho Chi Minh.
1072
01:20:43,380 --> 01:20:44,757
Long live Ho Chi Minh.
1073
01:20:44,757 --> 01:20:45,340
Louder.
1074
01:20:45,340 --> 01:20:46,675
Long live, Ho Chi Minh.
1075
01:20:46,925 --> 01:20:48,719
Long live Ho Chi Minh.
1076
01:21:21,001 --> 01:21:23,337
We could hardly have
installed a puppet regime at
1077
01:21:23,337 --> 01:21:27,049
a time when we have less than
700 unarmed military advisors
1078
01:21:27,049 --> 01:21:30,010
many of the non-commissioned
officers helping to teach the
1079
01:21:30,010 --> 01:21:32,930
South Vietnamese how
to organize an army for
1080
01:21:32,930 --> 01:21:35,557
protection against enemies
in their own country.
1081
01:21:35,557 --> 01:21:40,270
Are you saying that you approve of
the activity of the Diem regime?
1082
01:21:40,270 --> 01:21:41,647
What activity?
1083
01:21:41,647 --> 01:21:44,400
Do you approve that they
put six million in false
1084
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:47,611
prison camps and that the
American advisors
1085
01:21:47,611 --> 01:21:49,613
did nothing but help them in this?
1086
01:21:50,197 --> 01:21:53,575
I challenge your history again
there is absolutely no record
1087
01:21:53,575 --> 01:21:57,287
that six million people were
put in concentration camps.
1088
01:21:57,287 --> 01:22:00,582
They only have sixteen
million to begin with but also
1089
01:22:00,582 --> 01:22:04,044
I would like to call your
attention that a team from the
1090
01:22:04,044 --> 01:22:08,090
United Nations
was sent to Saigon,
1091
01:22:08,340 --> 01:22:14,263
to Vietnam to investigate the
charges made against the Diem regime
1092
01:22:14,263 --> 01:22:17,141
and the United Nations
report completely clear the
1093
01:22:17,141 --> 01:22:20,227
Diem regime of any of the charges
that have been brought against it.
1094
01:22:21,019 --> 01:22:24,690
The seventeen parrallel dividing
North from South Vietnam
1095
01:22:24,690 --> 01:22:28,193
is a mere provision on military
demarcation line
1096
01:22:28,193 --> 01:22:31,989
and should not in any way be interpreted
as constituting a political
1097
01:22:31,989 --> 01:22:33,448
and territorial boundary.
1098
01:22:33,782 --> 01:22:35,868
But once the
demarcation line was set,
1099
01:22:35,868 --> 01:22:39,955
was it not Ho Chi Minh and
the North Vietnamese that closed
1100
01:22:39,955 --> 01:22:43,208
that border after a million
refugees had fled from the
1101
01:22:43,208 --> 01:22:45,919
communist regime that was
imposed in North Vietnam had
1102
01:22:45,919 --> 01:22:46,920
fled to South Vietnam.
1103
01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:50,090
Did they not make this
a country themselves?
1104
01:22:50,090 --> 01:22:55,053
And did they not create or
start the aggression with
1105
01:22:55,053 --> 01:22:58,265
regard to South Vietnam in
violation of that treaty?
1106
01:22:58,265 --> 01:23:03,020
[Crosstalk]
1107
01:23:04,980 --> 01:23:07,399
Look, man, forget those guys.
1108
01:23:07,608 --> 01:23:10,235
They don't even
know where Vietnam is.
1109
01:23:10,611 --> 01:23:11,403
Blow them off.
1110
01:23:15,324 --> 01:23:16,450
I know these guys.
1111
01:23:18,118 --> 01:23:19,453
They will hurt you.
1112
01:23:20,996 --> 01:23:22,998
I don't know what
you're trying to prove here.
1113
01:23:24,041 --> 01:23:24,958
I don't know.
1114
01:23:26,543 --> 01:23:30,214
I guess I'm just trying
to draw line in the sand,
1115
01:23:32,925 --> 01:23:34,343
stop the insanity.
1116
01:23:35,427 --> 01:23:38,680
Insanity is going up
to fight those guys,
1117
01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:40,057
Blow it off.
1118
01:23:41,767 --> 01:23:44,269
You know why I've stayed
so pretty all these years,
1119
01:23:44,895 --> 01:23:48,899
it's because I don't get involve
in fights I don't need to be in.
1120
01:23:50,901 --> 01:23:52,903
It's called self-preservation,
my friend.
1121
01:23:53,403 --> 01:23:56,281
I believe the war in
Vietnam is illegal,
1122
01:23:56,281 --> 01:23:59,034
immoral, politically unjustifiable
1123
01:23:59,034 --> 01:24:00,869
and economically motivated.
1124
01:24:01,411 --> 01:24:05,207
I do believe that our goal
is the right of a people to
1125
01:24:05,207 --> 01:24:07,751
self-determination and
to not have a way of life,
1126
01:24:07,751 --> 01:24:09,836
a government or
a system force upon them.
1127
01:24:22,057 --> 01:24:26,103
Son, I wouldn't go
out there if I were you.
1128
01:24:26,603 --> 01:24:30,899
I know you wouldn't
but I'm not you.
1129
01:24:39,074 --> 01:24:41,493
It ain't right, you know,
him going out there alone like that.
1130
01:24:42,202 --> 01:24:44,871
Well, it's his fight, not ours.
1131
01:24:47,249 --> 01:24:48,375
Still ain't right.
1132
01:24:50,085 --> 01:24:51,253
What are you going to do?
1133
01:24:51,461 --> 01:24:52,588
Hit him with your Banjo?
1134
01:24:53,714 --> 01:24:55,048
It's called a guitar, man.
1135
01:24:56,008 --> 01:25:01,179
If we go out there, instead
of one guy getting his ass kicked,
1136
01:25:01,179 --> 01:25:02,597
there are going to
be three guys getting
1137
01:25:02,597 --> 01:25:03,724
their asses kicked.
1138
01:25:04,766 --> 01:25:07,019
We shouldn't have to
fight other people's battles.
1139
01:25:08,312 --> 01:25:10,272
Who cares what they
say about the war?
1140
01:25:55,275 --> 01:25:57,319
It's going to be okay now
we're going to watch out
1141
01:25:57,319 --> 01:25:58,403
for each other.
1142
01:26:05,786 --> 01:26:06,953
Enough.
1143
01:26:28,683 --> 01:26:30,018
My turn.
1144
01:26:33,063 --> 01:26:34,815
To be the lucky one.
1145
01:27:02,259 --> 01:27:03,844
Go home Binh.
1146
01:28:28,970 --> 01:28:30,180
Cam,
1147
01:28:32,933 --> 01:28:35,894
I imagine our daughter
is now as strong and beautiful
1148
01:28:35,894 --> 01:28:37,395
like her mother.
1149
01:28:38,563 --> 01:28:40,899
I dream of the day
we are together again.
1150
01:28:42,901 --> 01:28:48,949
If that day does not come,
please do what you have to do
1151
01:28:48,949 --> 01:28:50,909
so you and our
daughter can survive.
1152
01:28:55,247 --> 01:29:01,795
The only thing I want now is
that I just wish that you will
1153
01:29:01,795 --> 01:29:04,965
know what happened to me.
1154
01:29:06,091 --> 01:29:09,094
I don't want to
die like the others,
1155
01:29:09,094 --> 01:29:14,266
forgotten and bury
in a mass grave.
1156
01:30:08,820 --> 01:30:14,409
Cam, it's you.
1157
01:30:17,787 --> 01:30:18,830
It's you.
1158
01:30:21,541 --> 01:30:23,627
I think of you every day.
1159
01:30:50,153 --> 01:30:51,780
It's been so long Cam.
1160
01:30:54,908 --> 01:30:59,829
Every day I think of you, Cam.
1161
01:31:00,955 --> 01:31:05,627
I never give up,
never will give up.
1162
01:31:09,255 --> 01:31:10,590
I will never give up.
1163
01:31:13,510 --> 01:31:14,928
Okay, times up.
1164
01:31:21,559 --> 01:31:22,686
Please.
1165
01:31:28,233 --> 01:31:29,567
Please.
1166
01:31:57,470 --> 01:31:59,556
Our daughter?
1167
01:32:08,982 --> 01:32:10,442
She's okay.
1168
01:32:12,861 --> 01:32:15,363
She misses you every night.
1169
01:32:19,659 --> 01:32:23,913
I promise you,
I will come home to you.
1170
01:32:24,789 --> 01:32:28,168
I promise you that, no matter what.
1171
01:32:29,210 --> 01:32:36,051
I will survive to be home
with you and our baby
1172
01:32:36,051 --> 01:32:37,510
no matter what.
1173
01:32:39,345 --> 01:32:44,934
Cam, I love you.
1174
01:32:46,102 --> 01:32:48,313
I love you.
1175
01:32:51,983 --> 01:32:53,151
Let's go.
1176
01:32:59,157 --> 01:33:01,743
No, I don't want to go.
1177
01:33:03,036 --> 01:33:04,370
I don't want to go.
1178
01:33:04,370 --> 01:33:05,914
Everything will be okay.
1179
01:33:10,126 --> 01:33:11,461
I don't want to go.
1180
01:33:11,461 --> 01:33:12,837
You--go.
1181
01:33:17,383 --> 01:33:19,177
I know where you're at.
1182
01:33:21,846 --> 01:33:22,972
Wait for me.
1183
01:33:22,972 --> 01:33:24,933
I'll be home, I promise you.
1184
01:33:25,892 --> 01:33:27,102
Times up.
1185
01:33:30,605 --> 01:33:31,940
Wait for daddy, huh?
1186
01:34:04,305 --> 01:34:06,349
I love you.
1187
01:34:54,022 --> 01:34:58,860
I often wondered who these
Americans were that they would
1188
01:34:58,860 --> 01:35:03,031
come to the other side of the
world to help us fight for our
1189
01:35:03,031 --> 01:35:07,243
freedom then go home to
their country
1190
01:35:07,243 --> 01:35:09,162
that did not understand.
1191
01:35:10,997 --> 01:35:14,500
As soldiers,
we fight so others may live.
1192
01:35:16,252 --> 01:35:19,756
We are judged not by the
praise we may receive
1193
01:35:21,049 --> 01:35:24,010
but by the results we have achieved.
1194
01:35:25,219 --> 01:35:29,265
Because of you, two million
of our people escaped the
1195
01:35:29,265 --> 01:35:32,268
communist nightmare
that was to come.
1196
01:35:34,187 --> 01:35:37,774
If you ever wonder,
was it worth it?
1197
01:35:39,025 --> 01:35:41,527
The next time you see
a Vietnamese family,
1198
01:35:42,695 --> 01:35:48,534
remember, they would not
be here if it not for you.
1199
01:35:50,370 --> 01:35:53,247
We know your sacrifices
1200
01:35:53,247 --> 01:35:56,376
and we will forever be
in debted to you.
1201
01:35:58,211 --> 01:36:02,423
You are our brothers
that we will never forget.
1202
01:36:11,766 --> 01:36:14,602
I have seen much in
my life and have finally
1203
01:36:14,602 --> 01:36:16,521
come to peace with it.
1204
01:36:18,356 --> 01:36:22,694
I will always be grateful to
America for opening the doors
1205
01:36:22,694 --> 01:36:25,947
of a great nation to
bring our people in.
1206
01:36:28,825 --> 01:36:35,498
The freedom of America has
allowed us to prosper here
1207
01:36:35,498 --> 01:36:39,711
and although we will always
have sorrow in our hearts
1208
01:36:40,378 --> 01:36:41,629
for our homeland.
1209
01:36:43,047 --> 01:36:47,468
We are proud to be Americans.
1210
01:36:51,639 --> 01:36:54,017
Ripley, you made it.
1211
01:36:57,437 --> 01:36:59,647
My brother, you know if you
call I'll be here for you.
1212
01:36:59,856 --> 01:37:00,815
Thanks, brother.
1213
01:37:02,233 --> 01:37:03,234
How was everything with you?
1214
01:37:03,234 --> 01:37:04,652
Never better.
1215
01:37:06,612 --> 01:37:07,864
I know you.
1216
01:37:09,032 --> 01:37:10,491
If there's something
you want to tell me?
1217
01:37:12,410 --> 01:37:13,995
Just tell me.
1218
01:37:14,787 --> 01:37:15,788
Everything okay?
1219
01:37:16,289 --> 01:37:17,290
How's Cam?
1220
01:37:17,749 --> 01:37:22,920
Cam is Cam, still beautiful
but foolish for marrying me.
1221
01:37:26,299 --> 01:37:29,719
Ripley, take a look up.
1222
01:37:36,601 --> 01:37:41,314
Our fight for freedom
will be remembered.
1223
01:37:45,443 --> 01:37:55,703
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