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The pain is really
tough, I know.
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You know. We've been there.
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But if I had ended my life
when I wanted to,
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there is so much
I would've missed.
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♪♪♪
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One of the things I admire most
about today's guest
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is that she's unafraid to stand
up for what she believes in,
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even in the face of adversity.
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She's an actress, producer,
activist, and total badass.
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Joining me now, Olivia Munn.
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- Hi!
- Hi!
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I'm so excited for this.
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One of the main things
that I really admire about you
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is your sense of strength.
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Where do you get that from?
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I'm strong because a
strong woman raised me.
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It's all I've been raised
to know is to--to be strong.
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As women,
do you think our self-esteem
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is often tied to external
things, like relationships,
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or what others think about us?
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Men are encouraged
to become someone,
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and women are encouraged
to find someone.
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It's really hard as we, you
know, grow up in our lives
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to really try to actualize that
because we have our own dreams
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and our own goals
and we want to become someone.
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But the world is telling us
that we need to find someone
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- to become something.
- Mm-hmm.
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Why does society make us feel
the need as women to--
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in order to have a happy ending
we have to have a partner?
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When I take on any role, the
first thing that I ask myself
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is "Does she exist
if he doesn't exist?"
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- Mm.
- If the answer is no,
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then I just can't take the
movie, no matter how big it is,
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no matter what it is.
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That also goes into movies
that I do take on.
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So we're doing a scene.
It'll be me and my husband
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and they'll say, "Okay, uh..."
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To him: "Why don't you go
and, um, maybe pay some bills
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or get on your computer?
And, Olivia,
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why don't you just put
some dishes away?"
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What we're doing is, we're
creating more microaggressions
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- that go out into the world.
- Mm-hmm.
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So when little girls
are watching these movies,
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and they're seeing dads work
and go off to work
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and moms stay home and clean,
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those are the microaggressions
that get instilled into us.
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You wonder why women
struggle so much.
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It is impossible to do it all.
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You know, nobody ever asks, "How
does Barack Obama do it all?
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"How does he--how is he a father
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and the President
of the United States?"
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- [ chuckles ] Right.
- No one ever asks that.
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- Right.
- Because no one ever
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expects that of men.
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That's so true.
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In the MeToo movement,
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you were so courageous
and so brave.
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Were you afraid to speak up?
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Yes,
there was definitely fear there,
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but it didn't stop me from doing
what I know I had to do.
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There were definitely times
when I was threatened
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that I basically wouldn't have
a career anymore,
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that I would be pissing off
the wrong people.
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That never stopped me.
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You can take my career.
You can take my house.
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You can take my money,
but the things
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that matter the most to me,
they're not up for sale.
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That's...really
beautifully said.
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♪♪♪
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You had posted a caption
on Instagram
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that literally made me cry
when I read it.
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You were talking about
depression and anxiety.
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Mm-hmm.
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"Please listen to me, from
someone who is telling you
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"that she's been where you are,
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when I say that suicide
is not the right choice."
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And it was just beautiful being
able to relate to something
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and understand
where you're coming from now.
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I'm--I'm glad that it--it--
it resonated with you.
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People who deal with depression
like you and me
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and who can have
suicidal thoughts,
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any time you get to that place,
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and it seems like things
are too tough
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and you just can't
take it anymore,
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just ask yourself if you can
just hold on another day,
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because if you take your life,
game over. It's done.
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You don't get to see
what will happen in 10 years.
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The pain is really
tough, I know.
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You know. We've been there.
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But if I had ended my life
when I wanted to,
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there is so much
I would have missed.
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And that's, like,
worth staying for.
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It's a permanent solution
to a temporary problem.
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You know, and for people
who struggle with it,
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- it doesn't feel temporary.
- Right.
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It's like, I know I'm never
fully gonna be free
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- from my eating disorder.
- Hmm.
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But I know that every time
I don't get rid of my meal,
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- I'm flexing that muscle.
- Yeah.
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Something that's been
extremely empowering to me
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is rewriting my narrative.
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- Mm-hmm. Yes.
- So...
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growing up having,
quote-unquote, daddy issues--
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In 2017, I had a song
called "Daddy Issues."
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- I was living that narrative.
- Yeah.
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And I've learned
how to take it back.
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♪♪♪
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What advice would you give
for young women
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who are struggling
with self-love?
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Self-love to me comes from
knowing what really, really
matters.
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What matters the most?
My family's love,
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my friends' love and respect,
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my integrity,
and so first you have to look at
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the people in your life
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and the apps on your phone.
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[ chuckles ]
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- For real.
- Mm-hmm.
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Because you can't allow
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people to litter so much
negativity in your world
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and then wonder
why your life is trashed.
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Ask yourself, is this necessary?
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Does it make my life better?
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Do I like myself more?
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We all have those insecurities.
The difference is,
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you cannot let
a small human feeling
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become the narrative
for your life.
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Mm-hmm.
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Insecurity that comes up
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is a tiny drop in the ocean
of who you are.
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That's why it's so important
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to fill your mind and your heart
with so many other things
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so that you can really
lean on those things
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and be proud of those things.
Because if outside validation
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is your biggest source
of nourishment,
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you will be hungry
the rest of your life.
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Oh, you are preaching
to the choir
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because I was so hungry
for so many years.
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Mm-hmm.
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I know that you're also
so passionate
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- about rescuing animals.
- Mm-hmm.
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I would love to hear more.
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I partnered with
the Humane Society
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and Maddie's Fund
and The Ad Council,
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and that's to get out the word
to people
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that shelter pets
are--are awesome,
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and my two pups,
Chance and Frankie,
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were on this campaign
across the country
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- so it's so cute to see
billboards. - Yes!
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It's, like, the cutest thing
in the world to see.
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I just love it.
And the thing about rescuing
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that people don't always
understand is that any dog that
you want,
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even if it's a hypoallergenic
dog or a special purebred dog,
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you can find them at a rescue
because
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- there are a lot of puppy
mills. - Mm.
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My dog Chance, he's a purebred
Cavalier King Charles
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who was rescued from
a puppy mill in New York.
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And so anything that you want,
it just takes a little bit
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of work to find the right one,
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but you're helping to
save a life for sure.
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Well, this was just so much fun,
and I seriously appreciate you
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for being such a badass
and such a great role model
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for not only millions of people
but me, too.
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Aw, that means so much to me.
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Thank you so much for having me.
This has been so much fun.
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- We're gonna keep talking.
- I know! [ laughs ]
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We're gonna keep hanging out.
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