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Hello.
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Yates chooses his victims
at random.
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Nadia Decotis was tortured
and killed.
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Yates transported her
to his burial ground.
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- How many others?
- Seven so far.
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No forensics, nothing
to tie him to any of them?
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Green nail polish
was applied to the victims.
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He either burned the bodies,
or he buried them.
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He gets off on torture,
even in court.
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- See what we saw?
- I just hope the jury saw it.
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On the charge of murder
in the first degree,
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we find the defendant
Gregory Yates guilty.
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In the criminal justice system,
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sexually based offenses areconsidered especially heinous.
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In New York City,the dedicated detectives
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who investigatethese vicious felonies
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are members of an elite squad
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known asthe Special Victims Unit.
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These are their stories.
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What, was she dismembered,
or did she come apart in water?
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No obvious tears, but there are
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cutting marks
in the bones and tendons.
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Another body here
at Yates' burial ground.
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Yeah, some skinny-dipping
teenagers ditching class
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kicked up the vic.
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Local precinct gave us
the heads-up,
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thought it might be one
we missed.
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How?
We covered the whole island.
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And Yates buried his bodies.
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This one
we found floating in the water.
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It just happens to coincide
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with when and where Yates
dumped Nadia?
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- Rollins.
- Okay.
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What, he buried Nadia,
goes back out to Queens,
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assaults two flight attendants,
has lunch with his fiancee,
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and finds time
for a fourth assault?
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- Come on.
- The man was on a spree.
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For brunettes.
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She's a redhead.
It's not his type.
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We got nine dead bodies
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found here,
all by the same killer.
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And now we got the tenth.
Occam's razor.
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Guys, listen,
we have two options.
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One is bad.
The other one is worse.
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Either we missed one,
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or Yates has a copycat.
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The victim is
a Caucasian female, late 20s,
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probable cause of death...
fractured skull.
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Right arm severed surgically
at the shoulder.
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Dr. Rudnick,
are we interrupting?
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No, not at all. Just notating
my initial findings.
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Found in Pelham Bay,
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so either she floated up
as the water warmed,
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or CSU missed her in April?
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So you think Yates did this?
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I can't say definitively,
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but there are findings
consistent with Yates' MO,
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as well as evidence of injury,
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both vaginal and anal,
consistent with rape.
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Even after this long
in the water?
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There's no question
the skull was fractured
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just like those of the two
flight attendants and Nadia.
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Yeah, but this body
was also dismembered.
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- That's not part of Yates' MO.
- Correct.
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However, I can tell you the cuts
were made by someone
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with surgical training.
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And another
interesting detail...
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microscopic traces
of green nail polish
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under two fingernails.
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- Another coincidence, Rollins?
- It's public record.
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If you say so.
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Ooh.
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That poor, poor girl...
raped, tortured.
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And her skull was fractured.
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You think I'm responsible.
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I understand.
It is the logical assumption.
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We had a saying
in medical school...
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if you hear hoof beats,
think horses, not zebras.
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The ME found traces
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of green polish
on her fingernails.
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Really?
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Now, that is fascinating.
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Someone committed
this horrific crime,
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and then he went out of his way
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to piggyback it onto crimes
I've been accused of.
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That was my initial response.
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And the red hair...
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Gingers are anathema to me.
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I prefer brunettes.
No offense.
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It's a long story.
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And the body dismembered...
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it's so unnecessary.
It's so barbaric.
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Well, any ideas
why somebody would have done it?
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Well, I don't know.
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Maybe the killer likes the act
of cutting into bone and flesh.
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Do you mind if I...
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- have another look?
- Go right ahead.
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Mmhmm.
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I'm really sorry.
You...
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you have your work
cut out for you.
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I appreciate your help, Doctor.
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Thoughts are occurring.
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If I can, uh, stew on them
for a couple of days...
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I might have something for you.
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- sync and corrections by Zac -
- www.MY-SUBS.com -
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- Yates told you that it wasn't him?
- Yeah.
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I bet he still says
that Nadia wasn't him.
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No, the timeline is too tight.
This girl was a redhead.
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Okay, he's never dismembered
a body before this.
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We found skulls
last time, Amanda.
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Yeah, but that was skeletal
remains of decomped corpses.
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This is different.
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You know, his victims
were never prostitutes.
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This girl is a Jane Doe.
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Amanda, I don't know
what you're doing,
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but this isn't police work.
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I am cultivating a source.
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Listen, Yates hinted that
he might know who the killer is.
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Hinted, but didn't say.
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So what, do you have to go
back there again,
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and then he'll tell you?
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He's playing you.
This guy's a psychopath.
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Not to mention, Amanda,
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you went up there
without clearing it with me.
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I'm not trusting your judgment
right now.
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Okay.
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All right,
maybe you guys are right.
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So say it is Yates.
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Just let me keep
building a rapport.
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Then maybe we can finally
get an ID on this girl.
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Hey, Sarge.
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Sorry to interrupt,
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but I finally got a hit
from our DNA.
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- From CODIS?
- No, military database.
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Vic's name
is Brooke Groves, 28.
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She was ROTC
at SUNY Plattsburgh.
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Didn't the ME
say she was a working girl?
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Well, yeah, but before that,
she had another life.
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Last known address
was in Larchmont.
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I'll go with.
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Actually, Rollins, you
stay here with Fin.
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I'll let you know
what we find out.
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There you are.
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Yeah, they spend all this
money renovating the squad room,
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and there's still
nothing to eat.
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How you feeling?
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I'm just tired.
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I've been taking too many shifts
since Nick left.
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You talk to him?
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Yeah.
Yeah, he's happy.
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He's doing physical therapy
in Laguna Beach,
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and he's got some kind of lead
with the U.S. Park Police, so...
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You miss him.
Is that what this is all about?
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No.
I'm pissed off, man.
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I get grounded,
and this is my case?
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I mean, I know more about how
Yates thinks than Carisi does.
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Olivia's just looking out
for you, Amanda.
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Yeah?
How do you figure?
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You're good at getting
inside these guys' heads.
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Don't let them get
inside yours.
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Oh, no, bikes, toys...
she's a mom.
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No, they're not hers.
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If a mom disappears, they file
a missing persons report.
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Can I help you?
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Uh, Yeah, we're NYPD, um,
Manhattan Special Victims Unit.
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We're looking
for a Brooke Groves.
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That's me.
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Actually, it was me.
I'm Brooke Norwalk now.
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Hey, Tommy, Bobby,
go play on the iPad.
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Did something happen
to my husband?
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- No.
- No, no, no.
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Um, we thought something
happened to you.
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I don't understand.
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It must have been a mistake,
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but we got a body
in the morgue, actually.
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Oh, no.
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Rachel.
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My twin sister.
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Are you still in touch
with her?
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Off and on.
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My husband doesn't know that.
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Those boys have never even...
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After they were born,
my husband...
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he said she couldn't come
around anymore.
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She had problems?
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Rachel went to pieces
after our mom died...
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drinking, drugs.
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She'd call me from the city,
swear she was going to get help.
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I'd go into the city
and give her money.
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A few months ago,
she called again really high,
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and I told her
I was done enabling her.
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How...
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What happened to my sister?
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I ran the DNA again.
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You two were
identical twins, yes?
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That's right.
When we were young, we...
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Used to dress alike.
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No one could tell us apart.
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Brace yourself. There's
significant decomposition.
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It's Rachel.
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I'm very sorry for your loss.
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Rachel Groves...
she stayed here on and off.
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- She was murdered?
- Yeah.
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We think she was targeted
'cause she was on the fringes.
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Somebody
who wouldn't be missed.
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Rachel was troubled.
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That's why I was so happy
when her mother came for her.
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- Mother?
- I think it was her mother.
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The last time I saw Rachel,
she left with an older woman...
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gray hair, nicely dressed.
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- When was this?
- I'd have to check.
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It was still cold...
March, April.
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I remember the woman
had a long coat and a hat on.
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Okay, do you have
security cameras here?
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Yes.
Come, follow me.
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So Rachel was last seen
with this woman.
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Can the sister ID her?
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No, I mean, their mother
died ten years ago,
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and Brooke doesn't know
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any other female relatives
or friends.
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So who is she?
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Obviously not Yates.
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And look at the timecode...
April 15th.
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Yates was in custody.
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April 15, 2012...
that's three years off.
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Yeah, and obviously it's a.m.,
but it reads as 11:30 p.m.
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The timecode was glitched.
Okay, so check the machine.
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See what it reads now
and then adjust it from there.
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No, I tried that.
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They already reset it once they
realized it was out of whack.
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I'll have TARU take a look.
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And, um, Sergeant...
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in the meantime,
Yates called me twice.
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He says
he has more information.
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He won't talk
to anybody but me.
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Go.
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But not by yourself.
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You...
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you brought backup.
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I thought this was gonna be
just between me and you.
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You thought wrong.
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We're here because we were
able to identify
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the victim from Pelham Bay.
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You know, I already told you
that I had nothing
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- to do with that girl.
- Mmhmm.
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You also told me
that you would stew on this,
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that you might be able to come
up with more information.
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00:12:55,423 --> 00:12:57,523
So it turns out...
253
00:12:57,525 --> 00:12:59,825
she had a twin sister.
254
00:12:59,827 --> 00:13:01,627
It sure would mean a lot
to someone
255
00:13:01,629 --> 00:13:03,762
if we could bring her closure.
256
00:13:03,764 --> 00:13:05,030
A twin?
257
00:13:05,032 --> 00:13:06,532
Huh...
258
00:13:06,534 --> 00:13:09,701
that is a real bond.
259
00:13:09,703 --> 00:13:14,640
I would like to help,
but this is a long shot.
260
00:13:14,642 --> 00:13:18,210
But I kept thinking
about those autopsy photos,
261
00:13:18,212 --> 00:13:20,779
the medical training,
the red hair,
262
00:13:20,781 --> 00:13:24,883
and suddenly I was reminded
of this incident that happened
263
00:13:24,885 --> 00:13:26,885
back when I was becoming
a senior resident.
264
00:13:26,887 --> 00:13:30,856
- That was what, in 2002?
- Yeah, about then.
265
00:13:30,858 --> 00:13:32,991
I got a call from an attending.
266
00:13:32,993 --> 00:13:34,393
He needed stitches.
267
00:13:34,395 --> 00:13:36,695
He called you?
Why not go to the hospital?
268
00:13:36,697 --> 00:13:38,864
Because he was embarrassed.
269
00:13:38,866 --> 00:13:42,468
When I got to the town house,
I found out why.
270
00:13:42,470 --> 00:13:45,737
He had bruising and cuts
271
00:13:45,739 --> 00:13:47,339
and what appeared to be
272
00:13:47,341 --> 00:13:50,476
human bite marks
on his inner thigh and scrotum.
273
00:13:50,478 --> 00:13:53,212
He claimed it happened
during some sex game gone awry.
274
00:13:53,214 --> 00:13:55,080
- But you don't believe him.
- No.
275
00:13:55,082 --> 00:13:59,485
I asked him if his partner
needed medical attention.
276
00:13:59,487 --> 00:14:02,187
He assured me that she was fine
277
00:14:02,189 --> 00:14:04,022
and that she had left.
278
00:14:04,024 --> 00:14:08,393
Whoever she was, I could sense
that she was still in the house.
279
00:14:08,395 --> 00:14:12,531
There was a clump of red hair
on the floorboards,
280
00:14:12,533 --> 00:14:14,533
and I...
281
00:14:14,535 --> 00:14:16,735
- I could smell her.
- Okay, Doc.
282
00:14:16,737 --> 00:14:19,371
No.
Really, I could,
283
00:14:19,373 --> 00:14:21,607
and it wasn't the sex,
and it wasn't the hormones.
284
00:14:21,609 --> 00:14:23,008
It was her fear.
285
00:14:23,010 --> 00:14:26,445
It has a very real scent,
like ammonia.
286
00:14:26,447 --> 00:14:28,480
What was the name
of the attending?
287
00:14:30,584 --> 00:14:32,551
I don't want
to incriminate anybody.
288
00:14:32,553 --> 00:14:33,852
I...
289
00:14:33,854 --> 00:14:37,556
I could be wrong, but...
290
00:14:37,558 --> 00:14:40,058
I remember the street,
though...
291
00:14:40,060 --> 00:14:42,294
Convent Avenue in Harlem.
292
00:14:47,301 --> 00:14:50,435
The town house
has a lovely Juliet balcony.
293
00:14:53,647 --> 00:14:56,875
_
294
00:14:58,312 --> 00:15:01,613
Sarge, Fin,
I wasn't expecting you.
295
00:15:01,615 --> 00:15:03,248
These are the Changs.
296
00:15:03,250 --> 00:15:05,317
They bought the house four years
ago, did a renovation.
297
00:15:05,319 --> 00:15:07,119
Before that,
it had fallen into disrepair
298
00:15:07,121 --> 00:15:09,555
after the 2007 death
of Manon Favreau.
299
00:15:09,557 --> 00:15:11,189
She was a widow
whose husband's family
300
00:15:11,191 --> 00:15:12,624
actually built this house
in the 1880s.
301
00:15:12,626 --> 00:15:14,092
Thanks for
the history lesson, Carisi.
302
00:15:14,094 --> 00:15:15,894
Who lived here in 2002?
303
00:15:15,896 --> 00:15:17,396
We're looking at tax records,
utility bills,
304
00:15:17,398 --> 00:15:18,564
but realistically...
305
00:15:18,566 --> 00:15:20,332
Yates could just be
pulling Rollins' chain.
306
00:15:20,334 --> 00:15:21,667
I don't see
what he gets out of that.
307
00:15:21,669 --> 00:15:23,502
So we're here.
308
00:15:23,504 --> 00:15:25,504
The couple's given us permission
to do a noninvasive search?
309
00:15:25,506 --> 00:15:26,772
Yeah, but after all this time,
310
00:15:26,774 --> 00:15:28,373
what are the chances
we're going to find something?
311
00:15:28,375 --> 00:15:31,877
Sergeant, you're here.
Come look at what we found.
312
00:15:35,015 --> 00:15:38,417
The CSU techs picked up an image
using the GPR.
313
00:15:38,419 --> 00:15:41,153
- What's that?
- Ground penetrating radar.
314
00:15:41,155 --> 00:15:43,356
It's like a sonogram that can
see inside of that wall.
315
00:15:43,357 --> 00:15:46,758
Yes. And see,
it used to be a chimney.
316
00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,595
What's that shadow?
There's something in there.
317
00:15:50,864 --> 00:15:52,931
I bet that's
another Yates victim.
318
00:15:52,933 --> 00:15:54,533
So what, we rip down the wall?
319
00:15:54,535 --> 00:15:56,034
Okay, go tell the owners
320
00:15:56,036 --> 00:15:59,271
that that noninvasive search
just became invasive.
321
00:16:06,513 --> 00:16:09,147
A little help here.
322
00:16:18,892 --> 00:16:20,359
It's a suitcase.
323
00:16:21,362 --> 00:16:22,928
Great.
Let's get it out.
324
00:16:26,533 --> 00:16:28,867
There's something inside.
325
00:16:28,869 --> 00:16:31,903
- Should we open it?
- Yeah, go ahead.
326
00:16:41,448 --> 00:16:44,316
She's mummified.
327
00:16:51,445 --> 00:16:53,079
So Yates' tip paid off.
328
00:16:53,081 --> 00:16:55,015
There was a body
in the Harlem town house?
329
00:16:55,017 --> 00:16:57,083
In the wall, mummified.
330
00:16:57,085 --> 00:16:58,785
Anything else in the house?
331
00:16:58,787 --> 00:17:01,254
Fin and Carisi are searching
the place with CSU.
332
00:17:01,256 --> 00:17:02,689
We're getting a DNA sample.
333
00:17:02,691 --> 00:17:04,524
As soon as the ME
dates the decomp,
334
00:17:04,526 --> 00:17:05,525
search missing persons.
335
00:17:05,527 --> 00:17:08,294
Why not just ask Yates?
He's a convicted serial killer
336
00:17:08,296 --> 00:17:09,929
who tipped you off
to the location of a corpse
337
00:17:09,931 --> 00:17:11,731
in a house
where he also puts himself.
338
00:17:11,733 --> 00:17:12,966
Rollins has been working him.
339
00:17:12,968 --> 00:17:14,701
He swears that it wasn't him.
340
00:17:14,703 --> 00:17:17,237
You've got to be kidding me.
341
00:17:17,239 --> 00:17:18,872
The incisions
seem to have been made
342
00:17:18,874 --> 00:17:22,108
by a medical professional,
pubis and ilium scraped
343
00:17:22,110 --> 00:17:23,743
where they were separated
from the adductors.
344
00:17:23,745 --> 00:17:27,047
So she was dissected
just like Rachel Groves was.
345
00:17:27,049 --> 00:17:28,815
The muscle was cut
away from the bone.
346
00:17:28,817 --> 00:17:30,450
Mm.
347
00:17:30,452 --> 00:17:32,052
Detective,
you look a little piqued.
348
00:17:32,054 --> 00:17:33,486
I'm fine.
No, I'm good.
349
00:17:33,488 --> 00:17:35,555
Dr. Rudnick, Rollins.
350
00:17:35,557 --> 00:17:37,557
A sergeant
and an ADA at an autopsy...
351
00:17:37,559 --> 00:17:39,159
should I be nervous?
352
00:17:39,161 --> 00:17:40,293
Can you tell us anything?
353
00:17:40,295 --> 00:17:42,962
An autopsy like this
is an enigmatic puzzle.
354
00:17:42,964 --> 00:17:44,731
The body was cut, broken,
355
00:17:44,733 --> 00:17:48,134
and tied with an electrical cord
to fit in the suitcase.
356
00:17:48,136 --> 00:17:51,805
It had to be uncurled,
X-rayed, rehydrated.
357
00:17:51,807 --> 00:17:54,774
Start at the beginning...
age, cause of death.
358
00:17:54,776 --> 00:17:56,776
She was a white female.
359
00:17:56,778 --> 00:17:58,845
Uh, from her teeth,
I'd guess about 25.
360
00:17:58,847 --> 00:18:00,914
5'6", in good physical health.
361
00:18:00,916 --> 00:18:01,948
Cause of death?
362
00:18:01,950 --> 00:18:03,416
The skull was fractured,
363
00:18:03,418 --> 00:18:06,086
but I believe the cause
was strangulation.
364
00:18:06,088 --> 00:18:08,021
The hyoid was also fractured.
365
00:18:08,023 --> 00:18:09,956
The body was wrapped
in a blanket.
366
00:18:09,958 --> 00:18:12,692
The dry heat and smoke
from the common chimney
367
00:18:12,694 --> 00:18:14,861
effectively mummified
the remains,
368
00:18:14,863 --> 00:18:18,631
and she was in situ
for over a decade mostly likely.
369
00:18:18,633 --> 00:18:19,866
How is it she was discovered?
370
00:18:19,868 --> 00:18:21,468
Actually, it was a tip
from Yates.
371
00:18:21,470 --> 00:18:23,169
Dr. Yates?
372
00:18:23,171 --> 00:18:24,637
It's a tip or a confession?
373
00:18:24,639 --> 00:18:27,774
- Is this another one of his?
- I noted no nail polish.
374
00:18:27,776 --> 00:18:30,844
But the incisions do show
evidence of medical technique.
375
00:18:30,846 --> 00:18:34,314
And the fractured skull is
not inconsistent with Yates' MO.
376
00:18:34,316 --> 00:18:37,650
But strangulation is,
and the victim was a redhead.
377
00:18:37,652 --> 00:18:39,786
Yes, so was Rachel Groves.
378
00:18:39,788 --> 00:18:42,288
I'll need to do
a thorough examination.
379
00:18:42,290 --> 00:18:45,391
So far, I've found no trace
of the killer's DNA,
380
00:18:45,393 --> 00:18:50,330
which is also not inconsistent
with Yates' MO.
381
00:18:50,332 --> 00:18:52,999
"Also not inconsistent
with Yates' MO."
382
00:18:53,001 --> 00:18:54,901
That's ME talk for, "Yates did
it, but don't quote me."
383
00:18:54,903 --> 00:18:56,303
Yates is appealing
his conviction.
384
00:18:56,304 --> 00:18:57,570
Why would he tip us off
to another victim?
385
00:18:57,572 --> 00:18:59,472
He's sick, but he's not stupid.
386
00:18:59,474 --> 00:19:00,707
Rollins, all due respect...
387
00:19:00,709 --> 00:19:01,975
Don't start a sentence
that way.
388
00:19:01,977 --> 00:19:03,443
Fine.
389
00:19:03,445 --> 00:19:06,379
If Yates didn't do it, then how
did he know that body was there?
390
00:19:16,424 --> 00:19:18,858
Your DA thinks I'm the one
who did this.
391
00:19:18,860 --> 00:19:22,095
You know, I am the one
who told you all about her.
392
00:19:22,097 --> 00:19:25,765
That's exactly
why he thinks you did it.
393
00:19:25,767 --> 00:19:29,002
Is he always so circular
in his reasoning?
394
00:19:29,004 --> 00:19:30,870
You told me that you
were called to that house,
395
00:19:30,872 --> 00:19:33,873
that you knew
a woman was there.
396
00:19:33,875 --> 00:19:35,475
Do you know who she was?
397
00:19:35,477 --> 00:19:37,177
I do.
398
00:19:37,179 --> 00:19:38,845
I even know who killed her.
399
00:19:38,847 --> 00:19:41,114
But...
400
00:19:41,116 --> 00:19:46,085
enough talk
about what I can do for you.
401
00:19:46,087 --> 00:19:49,355
Let's talk
about how you can help me.
402
00:19:49,357 --> 00:19:53,560
Yates wants to touch
his fiancee, Susie Frain?
403
00:19:53,562 --> 00:19:55,094
Hasn't he touched
enough women already?
404
00:19:55,096 --> 00:19:56,930
Look, they've been together
for 20 years.
405
00:19:56,932 --> 00:19:58,231
He's never hurt Susie.
406
00:19:58,233 --> 00:20:00,066
And she's ok with
conjugal visits?
407
00:20:00,068 --> 00:20:02,518
- She called about it twice.
- Every pot has a lid.
408
00:20:02,683 --> 00:20:05,843
Lovely. You do realize how this
would look if word got out, right?
409
00:20:05,948 --> 00:20:09,049
Yates is already on the hook
for multiple rapes and murder.
410
00:20:09,051 --> 00:20:12,419
Now he wants to trade crime tips
for conjugal visits.
411
00:20:12,421 --> 00:20:13,854
If Yates is telling the truth,
412
00:20:13,856 --> 00:20:15,355
there could be
another serial out there.
413
00:20:15,357 --> 00:20:16,723
So pick your poison, Counselor.
414
00:20:16,725 --> 00:20:19,459
Fine.
Bring the fiancee upstate.
415
00:20:19,461 --> 00:20:20,894
Let them conjugate
416
00:20:20,896 --> 00:20:22,362
and then interrogate
both of them afterwards.
417
00:20:22,364 --> 00:20:23,997
You better be right
about this, Rollins.
418
00:20:35,210 --> 00:20:36,943
Okay, we good?
419
00:20:42,918 --> 00:20:44,618
Time's up, coming in.
420
00:20:53,053 --> 00:20:54,493
Ms. Frain before you leave, uh,
421
00:20:54,494 --> 00:20:56,325
my detectives have
some questions for you.
422
00:20:56,790 --> 00:20:58,564
No one told me about this.
423
00:20:58,628 --> 00:21:00,450
Oh, hey. It's all right.
424
00:21:01,482 --> 00:21:03,563
Just tell the truth.
425
00:21:05,699 --> 00:21:07,842
All right. We have some
questions for you too.
426
00:21:07,868 --> 00:21:12,070
So much for afterglow,
but a deal's a deal.
427
00:21:12,072 --> 00:21:13,071
Come in here.
428
00:21:13,073 --> 00:21:15,907
We'll have more privacy.
429
00:21:17,277 --> 00:21:18,943
I hope now that you've found
these two bodies,
430
00:21:18,945 --> 00:21:20,912
you'll be releasing Greg
as soon as possible.
431
00:21:20,914 --> 00:21:22,180
Come again?
432
00:21:22,182 --> 00:21:24,782
I always knew Greg
wasn't capable of these crimes.
433
00:21:24,784 --> 00:21:26,217
He was framed.
434
00:21:26,219 --> 00:21:27,719
The poor girl in Pelham Bay...
435
00:21:27,721 --> 00:21:30,021
she must have been murdered
after he was arrested,
436
00:21:30,023 --> 00:21:32,223
or you would have found the body
when you first searched.
437
00:21:32,225 --> 00:21:33,925
Oh, did Greg tell you that?
438
00:21:33,927 --> 00:21:35,693
It's common sense.
439
00:21:35,695 --> 00:21:38,096
And Lena...
we were all friends.
440
00:21:38,098 --> 00:21:39,464
Greg was fond of her.
441
00:21:39,466 --> 00:21:41,632
Hold up.
Who... who's Lena?
442
00:21:41,634 --> 00:21:43,334
Lena Grunwald...
443
00:21:43,336 --> 00:21:45,503
the girl in the wall.
444
00:21:45,505 --> 00:21:47,105
I thought she had gone home
to Switzerland,
445
00:21:47,107 --> 00:21:49,807
but she must have never left.
446
00:21:49,809 --> 00:21:51,175
Lena was a lovely girl.
447
00:21:51,177 --> 00:21:53,344
She was over from Switzerland
for her doctorate,
448
00:21:53,346 --> 00:21:55,113
and they, uh...
they met at Columbia.
449
00:21:55,115 --> 00:21:56,547
Met who?
450
00:21:56,549 --> 00:21:58,683
Her fianc�.
451
00:21:58,685 --> 00:22:00,351
No.
452
00:22:00,353 --> 00:22:02,186
When... The night
that I stitched him,
453
00:22:02,188 --> 00:22:04,689
he said that it was
a sex game gone wrong,
454
00:22:04,691 --> 00:22:06,858
but he had to have tortured...
455
00:22:06,860 --> 00:22:09,694
Oh, he might have sealed her
456
00:22:09,696 --> 00:22:11,829
in that wall
while she was still alive.
457
00:22:11,831 --> 00:22:13,698
Stay with us, Dr. Yates.
458
00:22:13,700 --> 00:22:15,133
Oh, yes, I'm sorry.
459
00:22:15,135 --> 00:22:16,467
That poor woman.
460
00:22:16,469 --> 00:22:18,503
You were gonna give us a name?
461
00:22:18,505 --> 00:22:20,371
I was.
Apologies.
462
00:22:20,373 --> 00:22:21,672
Uh, Carl.
463
00:22:21,674 --> 00:22:24,675
Yes, when I was
a senior resident,
464
00:22:24,677 --> 00:22:25,843
he was an attending...
465
00:22:25,845 --> 00:22:29,647
strange man,
a little delicate, pale.
466
00:22:29,649 --> 00:22:32,884
He kept to himself, which was
why we were so sort of surprised
467
00:22:32,886 --> 00:22:34,919
when he got engaged to Lena
468
00:22:34,921 --> 00:22:37,321
Does this delicate man
have a last name?
469
00:22:37,323 --> 00:22:39,624
Rudnick.
Uh, Dr. Carl Rudnick.
470
00:22:39,626 --> 00:22:41,959
That's it.
We're done.
471
00:22:41,961 --> 00:22:43,261
Rollins.
472
00:22:44,497 --> 00:22:46,164
- I went out on a limb for you.
- What?
473
00:22:46,166 --> 00:22:47,298
You think this is a game?
474
00:22:47,300 --> 00:22:49,333
You are going to be transferred
so far upstate,
475
00:22:49,335 --> 00:22:50,535
your ass is gonna freeze.
476
00:22:50,537 --> 00:22:52,036
- Rollins, let's go.
- What did I say?
477
00:22:52,038 --> 00:22:55,840
Dr. Carl Rudnick,
Deputy Chief Medical Examiner
478
00:22:55,842 --> 00:22:58,776
in the borough of Manhattan...
he's a serial killer.
479
00:22:58,778 --> 00:23:01,446
Wait.
Carl became an ME?
480
00:23:01,448 --> 00:23:03,681
Oh, no, that...
that really is...
481
00:23:03,683 --> 00:23:05,683
that is...
that is perfect.
482
00:23:05,685 --> 00:23:08,186
He never liked people,
but he always liked cutting.
483
00:23:08,188 --> 00:23:09,420
Don't even try, Yates.
484
00:23:09,422 --> 00:23:12,023
- No, stay. Please?
- I need to know.
485
00:23:12,025 --> 00:23:15,526
Did he do any of the autopsies
on the girls you found?
486
00:23:15,528 --> 00:23:17,462
Nadia maybe?
487
00:23:17,464 --> 00:23:20,298
Come on, a man like that
with all those female bodies
488
00:23:20,300 --> 00:23:21,866
being delivered to the morgue
489
00:23:21,868 --> 00:23:25,770
having been tortured to death?
490
00:23:25,772 --> 00:23:27,238
That is a trigger.
491
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:28,773
He would get off on them,
492
00:23:28,775 --> 00:23:32,577
and then he would want to go
do another one for himself.
493
00:23:32,579 --> 00:23:35,179
That girl,
the girl in Pelham Bay...
494
00:23:36,816 --> 00:23:40,751
Did Rudnick do her autopsy too?
495
00:23:43,256 --> 00:23:45,656
Have another ME
recheck the body.
496
00:23:45,658 --> 00:23:47,458
His report didn't say so,
497
00:23:47,460 --> 00:23:49,160
but I'll be you dollars
to doughnuts,
498
00:23:49,162 --> 00:23:52,430
he cut that girl up
while she was still alive.
499
00:24:06,030 --> 00:24:08,197
Accusing the Deputy Chief ME
of rape and murder?
500
00:24:08,199 --> 00:24:09,699
And they offered
this conspiracy theory
501
00:24:09,701 --> 00:24:11,200
right after
their conjugal visit.
502
00:24:11,202 --> 00:24:12,702
- Yeah, I know.
- He worked you two.
503
00:24:12,704 --> 00:24:14,303
Or the fianc� worked us.
504
00:24:14,305 --> 00:24:16,172
Give Yates points.
That's a bold move.
505
00:24:16,174 --> 00:24:18,908
I'm sorry. You all were right.
I was wrong.
506
00:24:18,910 --> 00:24:20,243
Hold on, Rollins.
507
00:24:20,245 --> 00:24:22,211
Now, look,
I'm still only mid-search,
508
00:24:22,213 --> 00:24:23,880
but there was a Lena Grunwald
509
00:24:23,882 --> 00:24:25,581
from Switzerland who went
to Columbia at that time.
510
00:24:25,583 --> 00:24:27,784
Now, as far as I can tell,
she never graduates,
511
00:24:27,786 --> 00:24:30,586
she just disappears off the grid
in winter of 2002.
512
00:24:30,588 --> 00:24:32,588
You actually looked into this?
513
00:24:32,590 --> 00:24:34,090
Yeah, Counselor, I did,
514
00:24:34,092 --> 00:24:35,758
because if Yates
is taking a flyer for an appeal,
515
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,894
then we have to rule this out.
516
00:24:38,630 --> 00:24:40,730
Now, I'm still new here,
517
00:24:40,732 --> 00:24:43,032
but how well do you guys
know Carl Rudnick?
518
00:24:43,034 --> 00:24:44,600
He got here
right before you did.
519
00:24:44,602 --> 00:24:46,736
He came out of Miami-Dade,
I think.
520
00:24:46,738 --> 00:24:48,838
Carisi's right.
521
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,274
Yates is looking
to overturn his conviction.
522
00:24:51,276 --> 00:24:52,442
Did Rudnick ever mention
523
00:24:52,444 --> 00:24:54,143
that he went to medical school
with Yates?
524
00:24:54,145 --> 00:24:55,411
No, he didn't.
525
00:24:55,413 --> 00:24:57,113
So what if he did?
526
00:24:57,115 --> 00:25:01,184
Yates kidnapped, raped,
tortured, and murdered Nadia.
527
00:25:01,186 --> 00:25:02,485
He is guilty.
528
00:25:02,487 --> 00:25:04,153
The only reason he's bringing up
conflicting evidence
529
00:25:04,155 --> 00:25:05,421
is for his appeal.
530
00:25:05,423 --> 00:25:06,856
Still,
if they did know each other,
531
00:25:06,858 --> 00:25:08,191
then Rudnick
should have recused himself.
532
00:25:08,193 --> 00:25:09,725
That's easy enough to confirm.
533
00:25:09,727 --> 00:25:11,594
Then while you're at it, see
if Rudnick has any connection
534
00:25:11,596 --> 00:25:13,429
to the town house in Harlem
535
00:25:13,431 --> 00:25:16,499
or if he even knew this supposed
fianc� of Lena Grunwald.
536
00:25:18,199 --> 00:25:20,056
_
537
00:25:20,091 --> 00:25:23,806
That's Lena
with Carl, me, and Greg...
538
00:25:23,808 --> 00:25:25,842
New Year's Eve 2001
in Montreal.
539
00:25:25,844 --> 00:25:27,276
So you knew each other
well enough
540
00:25:27,278 --> 00:25:28,845
that you all go
on vacation together.
541
00:25:28,847 --> 00:25:31,647
Oh, yeah,
Canada, Europe a few times.
542
00:25:31,649 --> 00:25:33,049
Lena spoke French and German.
543
00:25:33,051 --> 00:25:35,985
She was a great tour guide,
a lovely person.
544
00:25:35,987 --> 00:25:37,653
What can you tell us
about her relationship
545
00:25:37,655 --> 00:25:39,255
with Carl Rudnick?
546
00:25:39,257 --> 00:25:40,656
Tempestuous.
547
00:25:40,658 --> 00:25:42,325
They fought,
especially when they drank,
548
00:25:42,327 --> 00:25:43,726
and they both drank.
549
00:25:43,728 --> 00:25:45,695
She loved her Gewurztraminer.
550
00:25:45,697 --> 00:25:48,030
Remember the last time
you saw her?
551
00:25:48,032 --> 00:25:50,800
I remember when she left.
552
00:25:50,802 --> 00:25:53,836
Greg threw me a birthday party,
and Carl brought a new date.
553
00:25:53,838 --> 00:25:55,638
He said Lena
had broken off their engagement
554
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:56,973
and moved back to Switzerland.
555
00:25:56,975 --> 00:25:58,307
And that was...?
556
00:25:58,309 --> 00:26:00,776
Early February 2002.
557
00:26:00,778 --> 00:26:01,978
So you didn't think
it was strange
558
00:26:01,980 --> 00:26:04,313
that she didn't say good-bye
to you herself?
559
00:26:04,315 --> 00:26:05,681
I did, actually.
560
00:26:05,683 --> 00:26:08,284
In Montreal,
they were going at each other.
561
00:26:08,286 --> 00:26:10,153
On the flight back,
Lena told me
562
00:26:10,155 --> 00:26:12,655
that if anything ever
happened to her, Carl did it.
563
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,192
Why didn't you call the police?
564
00:26:16,194 --> 00:26:18,361
I was going to,
but then I got a note from Lena
565
00:26:18,363 --> 00:26:21,531
with a photo of herself
in her village... Grindelwald.
566
00:26:21,533 --> 00:26:24,033
She apologized. She said
she just had to get away.
567
00:26:24,035 --> 00:26:26,402
And you're sure
that it was her?
568
00:26:26,404 --> 00:26:28,204
- I thought it was.
- You think you may have kept
569
00:26:28,206 --> 00:26:29,539
that note and photo?
570
00:26:29,541 --> 00:26:31,774
I have tons of boxes
in mini storage.
571
00:26:31,776 --> 00:26:36,345
You think it will help
if I find it?
572
00:26:36,347 --> 00:26:39,348
Okay, so Rudnick and Yates
overlapped in medical school,
573
00:26:39,350 --> 00:26:42,218
and Lena was in business school
at the same time.
574
00:26:42,220 --> 00:26:44,687
And Susie just told us
that they were all friends.
575
00:26:44,689 --> 00:26:47,857
Which, as Carisi said,
Rudnick should have disclosed.
576
00:26:47,859 --> 00:26:49,759
It still doesn't mean
that Rudnick is good for this.
577
00:26:49,761 --> 00:26:51,194
Remember, Rollins,
578
00:26:51,196 --> 00:26:54,197
Yates tried to pin Nadia's death
on Will Halsted.
579
00:26:54,199 --> 00:26:55,731
He's an opportunist.
I know he is.
580
00:26:55,733 --> 00:26:59,635
And I know he's good for Nadia's
murder and a dozen before,
581
00:26:59,637 --> 00:27:02,038
but this woman in the wall...
582
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,074
I'm not sure about,
'cause look, I did a search.
583
00:27:05,076 --> 00:27:09,745
I was trying to find who exactly
lived in this house in 2002.
584
00:27:09,747 --> 00:27:14,717
Now, ConEd and phone bills
both went to Manon Favreau.
585
00:27:14,719 --> 00:27:16,953
The name on the cable bill...
586
00:27:16,955 --> 00:27:19,255
it's under Carl Rudnick.
587
00:27:19,257 --> 00:27:22,291
While it was owned
by Manon Favreau?
588
00:27:22,293 --> 00:27:24,060
So he was renting.
More like housesitting.
589
00:27:24,062 --> 00:27:28,731
It turns out, the maiden name
was Manon Rudnick.
590
00:27:28,733 --> 00:27:30,166
She's Carl Rudnick's
great-aunt.
591
00:27:30,168 --> 00:27:31,667
I mean,
these ancestry Websites...
592
00:27:31,669 --> 00:27:33,269
you'd be surprised
what they know about you.
593
00:27:33,271 --> 00:27:35,938
Okay, so Rudnick neglected
to mention that the body
594
00:27:35,940 --> 00:27:38,441
that we found
was in his aunt's house
595
00:27:38,443 --> 00:27:40,843
and he was living there when it
was plastered in the wall.
596
00:27:40,845 --> 00:27:43,913
Damn,
he autopsied his own fiancee?
597
00:27:43,915 --> 00:27:46,282
13 years after he killed her.
598
00:27:46,284 --> 00:27:47,750
We don't know that yet.
599
00:27:47,752 --> 00:27:49,685
We don't even know
if the body is Lena's.
600
00:27:49,687 --> 00:27:52,255
Susie told us that Lena sent
her a picture of herself
601
00:27:52,257 --> 00:27:53,456
from Switzerland.
602
00:27:53,458 --> 00:27:54,991
Well, if she did send
that photo,
603
00:27:54,993 --> 00:27:56,459
that's the last trace of her.
604
00:27:56,461 --> 00:27:58,494
Do we have any proof
that the body was hers?
605
00:27:58,496 --> 00:28:00,429
DNA, dental records, anything?
606
00:28:00,431 --> 00:28:02,164
I called Warner.
607
00:28:02,166 --> 00:28:05,034
She said according to Rudnick,
there's no way to ID her.
608
00:28:05,036 --> 00:28:06,535
There's a shock.
609
00:28:06,537 --> 00:28:08,971
Okay, I'll call
the Chief Medical Examiner
610
00:28:08,973 --> 00:28:10,606
and see
if he'll authorize Warner
611
00:28:10,608 --> 00:28:13,609
to independently redo
both autopsies,
612
00:28:13,611 --> 00:28:16,345
preferably
when Rudnick's not there.
613
00:28:18,783 --> 00:28:20,683
The body's well-preserved,
614
00:28:20,685 --> 00:28:23,352
most likely fromthe frigid water temperatures,
615
00:28:23,354 --> 00:28:24,887
which last well into April.
616
00:28:24,889 --> 00:28:26,389
Let's stop here.
617
00:28:26,391 --> 00:28:29,125
Dr. Rudnick's time of death
may be mistaken.
618
00:28:29,127 --> 00:28:31,394
- Maybe?
- He says early April.
619
00:28:31,396 --> 00:28:33,162
But based
on the crime-scene photos,
620
00:28:33,164 --> 00:28:36,132
it appears the body wasn't
wrapped in plastic or a tarp.
621
00:28:36,134 --> 00:28:37,867
Wait.
That's in his report.
622
00:28:37,869 --> 00:28:40,970
Yes, but if this body went
into the water in mid-April,
623
00:28:40,972 --> 00:28:44,473
the fish or crabs would have
nibbled away at the soft tissue.
624
00:28:44,475 --> 00:28:46,208
So it's more likely early May.
625
00:28:46,210 --> 00:28:47,643
I think so.
626
00:28:47,645 --> 00:28:49,979
I'm surprised, frankly.
627
00:28:49,981 --> 00:28:51,347
It's careless.
628
00:28:51,349 --> 00:28:53,082
Dr. Rudnick is meticulous
to a fault.
629
00:28:53,084 --> 00:28:55,151
He's one of the top MEs
in the country.
630
00:28:55,153 --> 00:28:56,519
What else do you know
about him?
631
00:28:56,521 --> 00:28:58,521
He's a guy
who works six days a week,
632
00:28:58,523 --> 00:28:59,989
never puts in for overtime.
633
00:28:59,991 --> 00:29:02,158
We all figure family money.
634
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,860
- He's obsessed with his work.
- Okay, okay.
635
00:29:04,862 --> 00:29:06,929
So his timeline is off.
636
00:29:06,931 --> 00:29:10,232
Is it possible
that he's overworked?
637
00:29:10,234 --> 00:29:13,436
Maybe. And here's
another omission I noticed.
638
00:29:13,438 --> 00:29:15,871
His report neglects to mention
that the dismemberment
639
00:29:15,873 --> 00:29:17,740
took place antemortem.
640
00:29:21,813 --> 00:29:23,879
So Rachel Groves was alive.
Are you sure?
641
00:29:23,881 --> 00:29:25,414
Positive.
642
00:29:25,416 --> 00:29:29,285
Cutting into live tissue
always causes a vital reaction
643
00:29:29,287 --> 00:29:31,520
markedly different
from cutting into dead tissue.
644
00:29:31,522 --> 00:29:33,456
And there's no way
an ME would leave this out
645
00:29:33,458 --> 00:29:35,825
or possibly mistake the two?
646
00:29:35,827 --> 00:29:39,395
No. Now, you want to tell me
what this is about?
647
00:29:41,132 --> 00:29:43,132
I'm sorry, Melinda.
I can't.
648
00:29:43,134 --> 00:29:46,102
This is, uh,
an active investigation.
649
00:29:50,575 --> 00:29:53,175
Before I re-autopsy
this mummified body,
650
00:29:53,177 --> 00:29:54,443
is there anything I should know?
651
00:29:54,445 --> 00:29:57,780
Uh, well,
she may be a Swiss national.
652
00:29:57,782 --> 00:29:59,615
We haven't been able to ID her.
653
00:29:59,617 --> 00:30:01,016
That may be helpful.
654
00:30:01,018 --> 00:30:02,752
Okay.
655
00:30:04,655 --> 00:30:08,257
Melinda, watch your back
with Rudnick.
656
00:30:16,744 --> 00:30:18,612
What am I looking at here?
657
00:30:18,614 --> 00:30:20,714
It's proof that the body
in that wall was Lena Grunwald.
658
00:30:20,716 --> 00:30:22,482
Okay, Warner
found these gold overlays
659
00:30:22,484 --> 00:30:25,886
on her teeth that are specific
to German-Swiss dentists.
660
00:30:25,888 --> 00:30:27,821
Yeah, another detail
Dr. Rudnick did not put
661
00:30:27,823 --> 00:30:29,289
in his autopsy report.
662
00:30:29,291 --> 00:30:31,024
We confirmed with her dentist
in Switzerland.
663
00:30:31,026 --> 00:30:32,626
It is Lena's body.
664
00:30:32,628 --> 00:30:33,961
She never went home.
665
00:30:33,963 --> 00:30:35,295
Well, here's
where it gets tricky.
666
00:30:35,297 --> 00:30:36,964
I finally heard back
from my guy at TSA.
667
00:30:36,966 --> 00:30:38,332
Now, according to them,
668
00:30:38,334 --> 00:30:40,500
Lena Grunwald
left JFK for Zurich
669
00:30:40,502 --> 00:30:43,036
on February 11, 2002.
670
00:30:43,038 --> 00:30:45,639
So? We can't pinpoint
her time of death.
671
00:30:45,641 --> 00:30:47,507
She must have come back,
been murdered sometime later.
672
00:30:47,509 --> 00:30:50,177
Yeah, but there's no record
of her coming back.
673
00:30:50,401 --> 00:30:52,234
So, on a hunch,
I looked at Rudnick's travel.
674
00:30:52,236 --> 00:30:54,570
Now, this guy... he's got
the opposite problem, all right?
675
00:30:54,572 --> 00:30:57,473
He returned from Paris to JFK
on February 15th,
676
00:30:57,475 --> 00:31:00,142
but there's no record of him
leaving the U.S. or even Canada.
677
00:31:00,144 --> 00:31:02,044
Okay, you got a theory
to go with this travelogue?
678
00:31:02,046 --> 00:31:05,414
What if Rudnick left the U.S.
using Lena's passport
679
00:31:05,416 --> 00:31:08,550
and then came back as himself?
680
00:31:08,552 --> 00:31:13,222
You're suggesting he was able
to pass as a woman post 9/11?
681
00:31:13,224 --> 00:31:16,492
Yeah, a red-haired lady
with a Swiss passport...
682
00:31:16,494 --> 00:31:19,228
so outside their profile, nobody
took a second look at her.
683
00:31:19,230 --> 00:31:21,430
And Rachel,
the victim from the bay...
684
00:31:21,432 --> 00:31:24,066
I mean, she was last seen
leaving her shelter with a woman
685
00:31:24,068 --> 00:31:25,834
or someone dressed like one.
686
00:31:25,836 --> 00:31:27,936
Using facial-recognition
software?
687
00:31:27,938 --> 00:31:29,104
We are.
688
00:31:29,106 --> 00:31:30,539
Olivia's headed to 1PP now
689
00:31:30,541 --> 00:31:33,408
to get the okay to bring Rudnick
in for questioning.
690
00:31:33,410 --> 00:31:34,776
Call her off.
691
00:31:34,778 --> 00:31:36,678
We'll ask forgiveness later.
692
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,081
For now, I'll find a pretext
to invite him to my office.
693
00:31:39,083 --> 00:31:41,083
So, while he's with you, how
about a warrant for his house.
694
00:31:41,085 --> 00:31:43,919
You know, knives, dresses...
who knows what we'll find?
695
00:31:48,292 --> 00:31:49,391
Please come in.
696
00:31:49,393 --> 00:31:50,559
Dr. Rudnick,
just so you know,
697
00:31:50,561 --> 00:31:52,160
everything in this room
is recorded.
698
00:31:52,162 --> 00:31:53,395
Have a seat.
699
00:31:53,397 --> 00:31:56,431
Um, Yates
is appealing his conviction,
700
00:31:56,433 --> 00:31:58,166
so this conversation
may be discoverable
701
00:31:58,168 --> 00:31:59,535
as part of that process.
702
00:31:59,537 --> 00:32:02,371
Of course,
I also record everything.
703
00:32:02,373 --> 00:32:04,106
Oh, Sergeant Benson.
704
00:32:04,108 --> 00:32:07,276
Yes. Dr. Rudnick, thank you
so much for meeting us.
705
00:32:07,278 --> 00:32:08,977
Just have a few questions
for you.
706
00:32:08,979 --> 00:32:10,345
Certainly.
707
00:32:13,150 --> 00:32:17,286
Okay, this file...
do you recognize it?
708
00:32:17,288 --> 00:32:21,089
Yes, it's the autopsy report
709
00:32:21,091 --> 00:32:23,392
of the Jane Doe
you found mummified...
710
00:32:23,394 --> 00:32:25,060
the Yates victim.
711
00:32:25,062 --> 00:32:26,795
And the addresswhere the body was found...
712
00:32:26,797 --> 00:32:28,530
do you recognize that?
713
00:32:28,532 --> 00:32:31,433
That's bizarre.I never noticed the address.
714
00:32:31,435 --> 00:32:35,504
My eyes were
on the poor girl's remains.
715
00:32:35,506 --> 00:32:37,372
So you do recognize
the address?
716
00:32:37,374 --> 00:32:39,074
It was
my great-aunt's house.
717
00:32:39,076 --> 00:32:42,177
Look at this.
718
00:32:42,179 --> 00:32:44,546
He keeps
autopsy photos bedside.
719
00:32:44,548 --> 00:32:46,982
He'll probably claim
he takes his work home with him.
720
00:32:46,984 --> 00:32:49,718
And this woman,
do you recognize her?
721
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,853
Yes, of course,
that's Lena Grunwald,
722
00:32:51,855 --> 00:32:55,390
an old flame of mine
from 15 years ago.
723
00:32:55,392 --> 00:32:57,259
I'm sorry.
What's this all about?
724
00:32:57,261 --> 00:33:00,062
We believe the body found
in the wall of your aunt's house
725
00:33:00,064 --> 00:33:02,230
was Lena Grunwald.
726
00:33:06,737 --> 00:33:09,538
Oh, my God.
727
00:33:09,540 --> 00:33:11,707
I didn't recognize her.
728
00:33:11,709 --> 00:33:13,208
And how could I in that state?
729
00:33:13,210 --> 00:33:15,344
Are you suggesting
I autopsied my ex?
730
00:33:15,346 --> 00:33:17,312
So you didn't know
that she was dead?
731
00:33:17,314 --> 00:33:18,413
Well, of course not.
732
00:33:18,415 --> 00:33:19,615
Last time I saw her
was at the airport
733
00:33:19,617 --> 00:33:21,883
when she left for Switzerland.
734
00:33:21,885 --> 00:33:23,418
She must have come back
without my knowledge
735
00:33:23,420 --> 00:33:26,355
and fallen back in with Yates.
736
00:33:26,357 --> 00:33:30,359
Who took her to your
aunt's house, killed her,
737
00:33:30,361 --> 00:33:32,361
and entombed her in the wall?
738
00:33:32,363 --> 00:33:34,563
That's an incredible
coincidence.
739
00:33:34,565 --> 00:33:35,797
Not really.
740
00:33:35,799 --> 00:33:37,399
We all knew each other,
741
00:33:37,401 --> 00:33:39,468
and I occasionally entertained
at that home.
742
00:33:39,470 --> 00:33:42,070
So you and Yates
knew each other?
743
00:33:42,072 --> 00:33:44,239
Yes, of course,
it's public knowledge.
744
00:33:44,241 --> 00:33:48,110
We were at med school at
the same time a few years apart.
745
00:33:48,112 --> 00:33:51,046
He was always
rather jealous of me.
746
00:33:51,048 --> 00:33:52,714
You and Yates were colleagues.
747
00:33:52,716 --> 00:33:55,183
Did you ever thinkto mention that to anyone?
748
00:33:55,185 --> 00:33:56,785
Well, frankly, no.
749
00:33:56,787 --> 00:33:59,388
When did you last
hear from Lena?
750
00:33:59,390 --> 00:34:01,390
We broke up
amidst a hard winter.
751
00:34:01,392 --> 00:34:04,059
It was 2002, 2003.
752
00:34:04,061 --> 00:34:06,428
That son of a bitch...
753
00:34:06,430 --> 00:34:08,830
He always had a thing for Lena,
754
00:34:08,832 --> 00:34:11,400
and killing her is his way
of hurting me.
755
00:34:11,402 --> 00:34:12,834
He did this to hurt you,
756
00:34:12,836 --> 00:34:16,838
and you didn't know about it
for 13 years.
757
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,140
Well, what other explanationcould there be?
758
00:34:18,142 --> 00:34:20,275
He knew the house.He knew her.
759
00:34:20,277 --> 00:34:21,943
And he'sa convicted serial killer.
760
00:34:21,945 --> 00:34:23,879
Ipso facto...
761
00:34:30,854 --> 00:34:33,488
Oh, you can't think that I had
anything to do with this.
762
00:34:33,490 --> 00:34:35,490
We can't.
763
00:34:35,492 --> 00:34:38,060
Oh, it's patently absurd.
764
00:34:40,864 --> 00:34:42,297
Dr. Rudnick...
765
00:34:42,299 --> 00:34:44,533
then you wouldn't mind
766
00:34:44,535 --> 00:34:47,703
working through some
of the other inconsistencies
767
00:34:47,705 --> 00:34:48,704
that we found.
768
00:34:48,706 --> 00:34:50,806
Well, not at all.
769
00:34:50,808 --> 00:34:53,475
Given the change
in tenor of this conversation,
770
00:34:53,477 --> 00:34:55,210
I'm contacting my lawyer.
771
00:34:55,212 --> 00:34:58,447
I'd like to exercise
that right.
772
00:34:58,449 --> 00:35:01,216
Feel free.
773
00:35:01,218 --> 00:35:04,052
We will wait to continue
questioning you
774
00:35:04,054 --> 00:35:05,487
until a lawyer arrives.
775
00:35:18,969 --> 00:35:21,069
You realize that if he is
guilty,
776
00:35:21,071 --> 00:35:22,671
then every case
he's testified in...
777
00:35:22,673 --> 00:35:25,173
I know.
Every autopsy he's performed...
778
00:35:25,175 --> 00:35:26,408
I don't even want to think
779
00:35:26,410 --> 00:35:28,143
about how many convictions
will have to be reopened.
780
00:35:28,145 --> 00:35:30,679
- Oh.
- Olivia.
781
00:35:30,681 --> 00:35:31,913
Rita, what are you doing here?
782
00:35:31,915 --> 00:35:33,181
I was working out a plea deal
783
00:35:33,183 --> 00:35:35,183
- when I got a message from Carl.
- Carl.
784
00:35:35,185 --> 00:35:37,185
You're representing
Dr. Rudnick.
785
00:35:37,187 --> 00:35:39,221
Everyone is entitled
to the best defense
786
00:35:39,223 --> 00:35:40,522
they can afford.
787
00:35:40,524 --> 00:35:44,159
And Dr. Rudnick or his family
can afford a very good one.
788
00:35:44,161 --> 00:35:46,361
And that, of course,
is all that matters.
789
00:35:46,363 --> 00:35:47,896
My client's waiting.
790
00:35:47,898 --> 00:35:50,732
He'll be coming with me.
He is done talking to you.
791
00:35:52,035 --> 00:35:54,836
Actually...
792
00:35:54,838 --> 00:35:56,371
he won't be leaving.
793
00:36:01,879 --> 00:36:05,347
Rita, it's very good of you
to come on such short notice.
794
00:36:05,349 --> 00:36:07,883
Of course, Carl, but I'm
afraid I have some bad news.
795
00:36:07,885 --> 00:36:10,452
Carl Rudnick,
you're under arrest
796
00:36:10,454 --> 00:36:13,588
for the murders of Rachel Groves
and Lena Grunwald.
797
00:36:13,590 --> 00:36:15,390
You have the right
to remain silent.
798
00:36:15,392 --> 00:36:16,558
Anything you say can
799
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,560
and will be used against you
in a court of law.
800
00:36:18,562 --> 00:36:19,895
You have the right
to an attorney...
801
00:36:19,897 --> 00:36:21,930
We'll see you in court.
802
00:36:26,209 --> 00:36:27,576
Dr. Rudnick,
how do you plead?
803
00:36:27,578 --> 00:36:29,044
Not guilty, Your Honor.
804
00:36:29,046 --> 00:36:31,446
He's a respected
Deputy Chief Medical Examiner
805
00:36:31,448 --> 00:36:32,681
for the borough of Manhattan.
806
00:36:32,683 --> 00:36:36,484
- I'm aware of that, Counselor.
- With an impeccable reputation.
807
00:36:36,486 --> 00:36:39,821
We request ROR as the charges
are, on their face, ridiculous.
808
00:36:39,823 --> 00:36:41,389
- Mr. Barba?
- Dr. Rudnick
809
00:36:41,391 --> 00:36:43,792
has been charged with two counts
of first-degree murder,
810
00:36:43,794 --> 00:36:46,361
one in which the victim
was vivisected.
811
00:36:46,363 --> 00:36:50,165
The other was found entombed in
the wall of his family's home.
812
00:36:50,167 --> 00:36:51,733
He's already tampered
with evidence.
813
00:36:51,735 --> 00:36:54,903
His position has allowed him
to cover up the crimes.
814
00:36:54,905 --> 00:36:57,405
Through several family trusts,
815
00:36:57,407 --> 00:36:59,541
he has the means
and the motive to flee,
816
00:36:59,543 --> 00:37:01,209
and we have reason to believe
817
00:37:01,211 --> 00:37:04,079
that he has traveled
internationally using passports
818
00:37:04,081 --> 00:37:05,547
from one of his victims
in the past.
819
00:37:05,549 --> 00:37:07,549
Dr. Rudnick only
became a suspect
820
00:37:07,551 --> 00:37:10,886
based on false accusations
by serial killer Greg Yates
821
00:37:10,888 --> 00:37:12,687
in a desperate attempt
to throw doubt
822
00:37:12,689 --> 00:37:14,022
on his own conviction.
823
00:37:14,024 --> 00:37:15,390
Even if that's true,
824
00:37:15,392 --> 00:37:17,192
I'm sure the state
would not waste my time
825
00:37:17,194 --> 00:37:19,261
if they didn't have
more compelling evidence.
826
00:37:19,263 --> 00:37:20,862
Dr. Rudnick,
827
00:37:20,864 --> 00:37:23,398
you are to surrender
your passport to the court.
828
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,533
Bail is set at $2 million.
829
00:37:28,438 --> 00:37:30,572
Rudnick posted
a $2 million bail?
830
00:37:30,574 --> 00:37:32,540
There's no money
like family money.
831
00:37:32,542 --> 00:37:34,442
It was wired in
before he was even processed.
832
00:37:34,444 --> 00:37:36,211
- Whoa.
- Hey, check this out.
833
00:37:36,213 --> 00:37:38,580
"The ME Nobody Knows."
834
00:37:38,582 --> 00:37:40,282
"A Monster in the Morgue."
835
00:37:40,284 --> 00:37:42,450
I mean, these headlines...
they write themselves.
836
00:37:42,452 --> 00:37:44,853
- This is a freaky story.
- Yeah.
837
00:37:44,855 --> 00:37:47,756
Getting freakier by the minute.
838
00:37:47,758 --> 00:37:50,292
Mommy and Noah
will get a little time later.
839
00:37:50,294 --> 00:37:51,893
There you go, sweetie.
Okay.
840
00:37:51,895 --> 00:37:53,929
All right. I love you.
841
00:37:53,931 --> 00:37:56,765
Sarge, you're going
to want to see this!
842
00:37:56,767 --> 00:37:58,700
Great.
You got something?
843
00:37:58,702 --> 00:38:00,468
Yeah, facial recognition
came back.
844
00:38:00,470 --> 00:38:03,538
That TSA photo,
it's definitely not Lena.
845
00:38:03,540 --> 00:38:05,206
The jawline
is wide by two centimeters.
846
00:38:05,208 --> 00:38:06,508
The symmetry is wrong.
847
00:38:06,510 --> 00:38:08,944
And they also say it's not
inconsistent with Rudnick.
848
00:38:08,946 --> 00:38:10,946
This guy has a closet
full of wigs and dresses.
849
00:38:10,948 --> 00:38:12,180
We know it's him.
850
00:38:12,182 --> 00:38:13,949
We may know it's Rudnick,
but Barba wants proof.
851
00:38:13,951 --> 00:38:15,617
We need that photo
of Lena in Switzerland
852
00:38:15,619 --> 00:38:17,285
that he sent to Susie.
853
00:38:17,287 --> 00:38:19,421
Well, I've been trying
to reach Susie. So far, no luck.
854
00:38:19,423 --> 00:38:22,924
All right, Rollins,
let's call Yates, now.
855
00:38:22,926 --> 00:38:24,793
Something happened to Susie.
856
00:38:24,795 --> 00:38:26,962
She was supposed
to call this morning.
857
00:38:26,964 --> 00:38:28,496
She would never just forget.
858
00:38:28,498 --> 00:38:30,099
When's the last time
you talked to her?
859
00:38:30,100 --> 00:38:31,733
Last night.
860
00:38:31,735 --> 00:38:33,802
- She said she had good news.
- Good news?
861
00:38:33,804 --> 00:38:35,937
She said
that she had found the photo
862
00:38:35,939 --> 00:38:38,173
that Lena supposedly sent
from Switzerland.
863
00:38:38,175 --> 00:38:42,310
She felt it looked a lot
like Rudnick in drag.
864
00:38:42,312 --> 00:38:44,079
Was she going to tell
Rudnick that?
865
00:38:44,081 --> 00:38:46,281
No, I don't think so.
866
00:38:46,283 --> 00:38:48,817
Wait. he's still in custody,isn't he?
867
00:38:48,819 --> 00:38:51,453
No, he made bail last night.
868
00:38:52,856 --> 00:38:54,222
Oh, no.
869
00:38:57,694 --> 00:38:59,127
She's not here?
870
00:38:59,129 --> 00:39:01,629
No, and I doubt she went
alone willingly.
871
00:39:15,879 --> 00:39:19,647
Blood is mostly dried.
It's been a while.
872
00:39:19,649 --> 00:39:21,916
Get a BOLO out on Rudnick asap.
873
00:39:21,918 --> 00:39:23,885
Then head over
to Real Time Crime.
874
00:39:23,887 --> 00:39:26,154
We're going to need
a task force, TARU,
875
00:39:26,156 --> 00:39:27,622
TSA, Port Authority Police.
876
00:39:27,624 --> 00:39:30,558
- You know the drill.
- On it.
877
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,327
Hey, Sarge. Sarge.
878
00:39:32,329 --> 00:39:34,796
I might have heard something
come over the borough-wide.
879
00:39:34,798 --> 00:39:37,065
Got freshly cut body parts
coming in with the tide.
880
00:39:37,067 --> 00:39:40,068
Cut?
Were they female?
881
00:39:46,843 --> 00:39:48,109
What do we have?
882
00:39:48,111 --> 00:39:50,378
Well, we're still putting
the pieces together.
883
00:39:50,380 --> 00:39:53,681
Some fishermen saw the bags
coming in about an hour ago.
884
00:39:53,683 --> 00:39:55,050
This is why I hate fishing.
885
00:39:55,052 --> 00:39:56,317
Learned that growing up
in Staten Island.
886
00:39:56,319 --> 00:39:58,553
We're a long way from Elmhurst.
887
00:39:59,856 --> 00:40:01,790
We're not sure it's Susie.
888
00:40:17,841 --> 00:40:19,541
We are now.
889
00:40:27,617 --> 00:40:29,384
What the hell is going on here?
890
00:40:29,386 --> 00:40:30,685
Exigent circumstances.
891
00:40:30,687 --> 00:40:32,120
Oh, nice try.
892
00:40:32,122 --> 00:40:34,222
I don't hear
anyone screaming for help.
893
00:40:34,224 --> 00:40:37,092
You have a warrant
to search Dr. Rudnick's house?
894
00:40:37,094 --> 00:40:38,560
We had one yesterday.
895
00:40:38,562 --> 00:40:40,695
- And now you need a new one.
- Really, Rita?
896
00:40:40,697 --> 00:40:42,864
He cut Susie Frain up
into pieces.
897
00:40:42,866 --> 00:40:44,432
I feel sorry for her, I do,
898
00:40:44,434 --> 00:40:47,435
but we do not knowthat Dr. Rudnick was involved.
899
00:40:47,437 --> 00:40:48,803
Where's your client, Rita?
900
00:40:48,805 --> 00:40:51,039
I haven't heard from him.
901
00:40:51,041 --> 00:40:52,474
When's the last time you did?
902
00:40:52,476 --> 00:40:54,909
Yesterday at the courthousewhen he posted bail.
903
00:40:54,911 --> 00:40:57,378
He Ubered home, said he was
going to get some sleep.
904
00:40:57,380 --> 00:40:58,746
Well, he lied to you.
905
00:40:58,748 --> 00:41:00,648
Look...
906
00:41:00,650 --> 00:41:02,117
I don't know where he is.
907
00:41:02,119 --> 00:41:05,453
He is the suspect
in this murder, okay?
908
00:41:05,455 --> 00:41:07,689
You hear from him,
you better let us know.
909
00:41:08,725 --> 00:41:10,291
The only legal obligation
I have
910
00:41:10,293 --> 00:41:12,494
is to make sure
that he shows up at trial.
911
00:41:12,496 --> 00:41:14,729
Wow. You're claiming
attorney-client privilege
912
00:41:14,731 --> 00:41:17,832
for a psychopath
who's on the run,
913
00:41:17,834 --> 00:41:18,933
who gutted a woman.
914
00:41:18,935 --> 00:41:20,835
I have no knowledge of that,
915
00:41:20,837 --> 00:41:23,471
and I have no knowledge ofany future acts he may commit.
916
00:41:23,473 --> 00:41:25,073
His car is missing.
917
00:41:25,075 --> 00:41:26,574
He's not answering
his telephone.
918
00:41:26,576 --> 00:41:28,743
We need to search
this house now.
919
00:41:28,745 --> 00:41:33,214
And you can as soon
as you get a warrant.
920
00:41:39,489 --> 00:41:41,489
Fin's at Real Time
checking traffic cams.
921
00:41:41,491 --> 00:41:43,124
Sarge is
at Rudnick's town house.
922
00:41:43,126 --> 00:41:44,826
There's no sign of this guy.
He's in the wind.
923
00:41:44,828 --> 00:41:47,762
Yeah, well, he murdered
and dismembered Susie Frain.
924
00:41:47,764 --> 00:41:48,997
I wouldn't have
stuck around either.
925
00:41:48,999 --> 00:41:51,833
We're still missing a left leg.
926
00:41:58,608 --> 00:42:00,341
Ah, that's a calf.
927
00:42:00,343 --> 00:42:03,111
Sawed off at the left knee,
not a lot of blood.
928
00:42:06,149 --> 00:42:08,016
You guys got this, right?
929
00:42:08,018 --> 00:42:09,951
Yeah, give me one second.
930
00:42:09,953 --> 00:42:11,219
Oh.
931
00:42:11,221 --> 00:42:14,322
Oh, easy.
You all right?
932
00:42:14,324 --> 00:42:18,126
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm fine.
933
00:42:21,198 --> 00:42:23,965
I am going
to drive us back, okay?
934
00:42:26,870 --> 00:42:28,436
12 hours
after Rudnick posts bail,
935
00:42:28,438 --> 00:42:30,138
a potential prosecution witness
936
00:42:30,140 --> 00:42:31,739
is found in pieces
with the morning tide?
937
00:42:31,741 --> 00:42:33,575
We're well aware
of the problem.
938
00:42:33,577 --> 00:42:35,109
- Counselor.
- Where the hell is he?
939
00:42:35,111 --> 00:42:36,578
This is all we know, okay?
940
00:42:36,580 --> 00:42:38,680
He was last seen posting bond
at 8:00 p.m. last night.
941
00:42:38,682 --> 00:42:40,215
Uber driver confirms
dropping him off
942
00:42:40,217 --> 00:42:41,482
at his Harlem town house.
943
00:42:41,484 --> 00:42:43,618
So, sometime between last night
and this morning,
944
00:42:43,620 --> 00:42:45,220
he goes
to Susie Frain's apartment,
945
00:42:45,222 --> 00:42:46,788
he dismembers her,
he bags the body,
946
00:42:46,790 --> 00:42:48,122
dumps her in the water
at Fort Tilden,
947
00:42:48,124 --> 00:42:49,257
and then he disappears.
948
00:42:49,259 --> 00:42:50,725
We've got a BOLO
out on his car,
949
00:42:50,727 --> 00:42:51,993
his credit, his bank cards.
950
00:42:51,995 --> 00:42:53,228
So far, no hits.
951
00:42:53,230 --> 00:42:54,495
No sightings, no traffic cams.
952
00:42:54,497 --> 00:42:55,930
Does everyone know
he dresses in drag?
953
00:42:55,932 --> 00:42:57,832
We've alerted state troopers
and the FBI.
954
00:42:57,834 --> 00:42:59,567
Oh, they already know.
955
00:42:59,569 --> 00:43:01,469
The ME's office,
the mayor's office,
956
00:43:01,471 --> 00:43:03,671
the people in my office...
957
00:43:03,673 --> 00:43:05,240
People are falling over
themselves to point fingers.
958
00:43:05,242 --> 00:43:06,708
Okay, I get it.
It's a mess, all right?
959
00:43:06,710 --> 00:43:09,444
No leave, no vacation, no...
960
00:43:09,446 --> 00:43:12,146
Yes, I'll hold
for the governor.
961
00:43:12,148 --> 00:43:14,382
- Find him.
- Okay.
962
00:43:16,019 --> 00:43:17,685
Wow. Somebody
needs a vacation.
963
00:43:17,687 --> 00:43:19,454
You can't blame him.
964
00:43:19,456 --> 00:43:21,589
I mean, the guy jumps bail,
and then he kills our witness.
965
00:43:21,591 --> 00:43:22,824
Speaking of,
966
00:43:22,826 --> 00:43:24,926
we need to notify Yates
that his fiancee is dead.
967
00:43:24,928 --> 00:43:26,694
Look, that's not a priority
right now.
968
00:43:26,696 --> 00:43:27,829
He'll find out on the news.
969
00:43:27,831 --> 00:43:30,598
I know he will,
but the photo, Sergeant,
970
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,134
the photo that Rudnick sent to
Susie pretending he was Lena...
971
00:43:33,136 --> 00:43:36,037
CSU tore her house apart.
They couldn't find it anywhere.
972
00:43:36,039 --> 00:43:37,605
Yeah, of course they couldn't.
973
00:43:37,607 --> 00:43:39,474
That's why Rudnick went
to her house in the first place.
974
00:43:39,476 --> 00:43:41,209
So check her phone records.
Find out if she called Rudnick.
975
00:43:41,211 --> 00:43:43,444
What, do you think she was
using that photo for blackmail?
976
00:43:43,446 --> 00:43:46,748
You know she did not come up
with that idea on her own.
977
00:43:46,750 --> 00:43:48,449
Which is why
I need to talk to Yates.
978
00:43:48,451 --> 00:43:50,218
You know he's more open
when it's just the two of us.
979
00:43:50,220 --> 00:43:51,953
Nice try, Rollins.
980
00:43:56,452 --> 00:43:58,329
_
981
00:43:58,364 --> 00:43:59,827
Susie.
982
00:44:01,831 --> 00:44:03,965
Can I see the body?
983
00:44:03,967 --> 00:44:06,501
That's not going to be
possible, Dr. Yates.
984
00:44:06,503 --> 00:44:08,636
Are you sure it was her?
985
00:44:08,638 --> 00:44:10,305
We're sure. I'm sorry.
986
00:44:11,808 --> 00:44:13,975
So we were hoping, uh,
to talk to you
987
00:44:13,977 --> 00:44:17,278
about your last conversation
with Susie Frain.
988
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,414
Yes, of course.
989
00:44:19,416 --> 00:44:21,349
How did Rudnick kill her?
990
00:44:21,351 --> 00:44:22,850
Still waiting on the autopsy.
991
00:44:24,020 --> 00:44:25,153
You are?
992
00:44:25,155 --> 00:44:28,289
Could you ask the ME
to test her HCG levels?
993
00:44:28,291 --> 00:44:29,657
Excuse me?
994
00:44:29,659 --> 00:44:32,593
I'd like to know
whether Susie was pregnant.
995
00:44:32,595 --> 00:44:36,597
That afternoon in April before
I was arrested,
996
00:44:36,599 --> 00:44:37,832
we made love.
997
00:44:37,834 --> 00:44:40,601
I could sense
that she was ovulating.
998
00:44:40,603 --> 00:44:42,770
When we had our conjugal,
999
00:44:42,772 --> 00:44:45,807
she agreed to take
a pregnancy test.
1000
00:44:47,944 --> 00:44:52,547
It's quite possible that I was
going to be a father...
1001
00:44:52,549 --> 00:44:54,749
and he took that from me.
1002
00:45:05,188 --> 00:45:07,873
- You got something?
- Yeah, I got a hold of Fin.
1003
00:45:07,908 --> 00:45:10,043
He and TARU have been going
through Rudnick's computers,
1004
00:45:10,078 --> 00:45:12,754
finances, flagging every credit
card that they could find.
1005
00:45:12,789 --> 00:45:14,675
- Okay, any hits?
- Not yet. But they did find this.
1006
00:45:14,710 --> 00:45:17,132
So Dr. Crazy's been wiring
money from a trust
1007
00:45:17,134 --> 00:45:18,467
to four different
personal accounts
1008
00:45:18,469 --> 00:45:19,902
under four different names.
1009
00:45:20,104 --> 00:45:22,066
- So contact these people.
- We're trying, Sarge.
1010
00:45:22,067 --> 00:45:25,073
But as for now their only
one addresses is a PO Boxes.
1011
00:45:25,108 --> 00:45:27,450
We can't find any employees,
phone listings...
1012
00:45:27,485 --> 00:45:29,220
Okay, so they're false fronts.
1013
00:45:29,222 --> 00:45:31,155
I just got something
from the DMV.
1014
00:45:31,157 --> 00:45:32,757
See that Terry Fish account
up there?
1015
00:45:32,759 --> 00:45:34,058
I just found a Teresa Fish
1016
00:45:34,060 --> 00:45:36,160
that has an apartment
in the same zip as that PO box.
1017
00:45:36,162 --> 00:45:37,495
Great.
1018
00:45:37,597 --> 00:45:39,793
Oh. Rudnick's a blonde now.
1019
00:45:40,144 --> 00:45:43,408
Teresa got her license
in October of last year.
1020
00:45:43,647 --> 00:45:45,449
- I'll put a BOLO out.
- You know what? I'll do that.
1021
00:45:45,616 --> 00:45:47,115
You two,
get up to that apartment.
1022
00:45:47,117 --> 00:45:49,951
If we get lucky,
Rudnick may be hiding there.
1023
00:45:53,524 --> 00:45:55,657
Hey, you all right?
1024
00:45:55,659 --> 00:45:57,792
- Why wouldn't I be?
- I don't know.
1025
00:45:57,794 --> 00:45:59,094
Usually, you're two steps
ahead of me,
1026
00:45:59,096 --> 00:46:00,962
and I've never seen you queasy
at a crime scene before.
1027
00:46:00,964 --> 00:46:03,765
Yeah, I had a bad bagel
yesterday.
1028
00:46:03,767 --> 00:46:05,567
I'm totally fine.
1029
00:46:07,873 --> 00:46:09,669
_
1030
00:46:09,670 --> 00:46:12,232
I wonder if something
happen to poor Terry.
1031
00:46:12,255 --> 00:46:15,990
I ain't seen her in a while
here, maybe since April.
1032
00:46:15,992 --> 00:46:18,492
Is she okay?
We miss her around here.
1033
00:46:18,494 --> 00:46:20,261
You know her?
You talk to her much?
1034
00:46:20,263 --> 00:46:21,729
Is that a joke?
1035
00:46:21,731 --> 00:46:23,397
Does it look
like either of us are laughing?
1036
00:46:23,399 --> 00:46:25,666
It sounds like a joke.
1037
00:46:25,668 --> 00:46:29,303
Terry's mute, deaf too.
1038
00:46:29,305 --> 00:46:30,971
She used to write
me little notes, you know,
1039
00:46:30,973 --> 00:46:34,608
if she needed something,
but never a complaint.
1040
00:46:34,610 --> 00:46:37,044
She paid her rent a year
in advance.
1041
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:41,115
Terry!
1042
00:46:41,117 --> 00:46:43,117
Oh, what am I doing?
1043
00:46:43,119 --> 00:46:45,486
It's not like she can hear me.
1044
00:47:04,635 --> 00:47:07,002
You lay this new floor in here?
1045
00:47:07,004 --> 00:47:08,637
I told you she was
a good tenant.
1046
00:47:08,639 --> 00:47:10,405
She must have put
that in herself.
1047
00:47:10,407 --> 00:47:11,740
Right.
1048
00:47:31,395 --> 00:47:33,695
Carisi.
1049
00:47:33,697 --> 00:47:35,897
Hey, I found more wigs
and floral print dresses,
1050
00:47:35,899 --> 00:47:37,465
lots of them.
1051
00:47:37,467 --> 00:47:40,335
It's red hair,
just like Rachel Groves'.
1052
00:47:40,337 --> 00:47:42,671
And these look
like cutting marks to you?
1053
00:47:42,673 --> 00:47:45,306
Totally.
I'll call CSU.
1054
00:47:48,078 --> 00:47:50,412
I got your message
about Rudnick's aliases
1055
00:47:50,414 --> 00:47:52,480
so I rechecked
his Jane Doe autopsies.
1056
00:47:52,482 --> 00:47:54,482
The last one was in October.
1057
00:47:54,484 --> 00:47:57,852
50-year-old homeless woman
found dead on the E train,
1058
00:47:57,854 --> 00:47:59,254
listed as natural causes.
1059
00:47:59,256 --> 00:48:01,523
Never ID'd.
1060
00:48:01,525 --> 00:48:05,560
Rudnick's paperwork says
"no match on fingerprints or DNA."
1061
00:48:05,562 --> 00:48:07,362
But I got a print hit
1062
00:48:07,364 --> 00:48:12,200
on a New York City food stamp
application... Teresa Fish.
1063
00:48:12,202 --> 00:48:15,437
Rudnick wanted to make sure
that nobody would miss her
1064
00:48:15,439 --> 00:48:17,605
so he could steal her identity.
1065
00:48:17,607 --> 00:48:20,608
Identity thief,
rapist, killer...
1066
00:48:20,610 --> 00:48:22,343
the damage
he's done to this office,
1067
00:48:22,345 --> 00:48:23,945
it makes me furious.
1068
00:48:23,947 --> 00:48:25,447
Not to mention they
brought him up from Dade County
1069
00:48:25,449 --> 00:48:27,582
instead of giving you
that promotion.
1070
00:48:27,584 --> 00:48:30,385
You know, you should reapply.
1071
00:48:30,387 --> 00:48:34,022
Before I do that,
I need to rerun DNA and prints
1072
00:48:34,024 --> 00:48:37,358
on every body he's ever sent
to Potter's Field.
1073
00:48:39,463 --> 00:48:42,097
Thank you, Melinda.
1074
00:48:42,099 --> 00:48:43,798
You were right.
1075
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,968
One can see pronounced gouges
on this bottom layer.
1076
00:48:46,970 --> 00:48:49,204
Any guess
on what the implement was?
1077
00:48:49,206 --> 00:48:51,206
I'd say
it's a large, flat blade,
1078
00:48:51,208 --> 00:48:53,975
- maybe a cleaver.
- Oh.
1079
00:48:53,977 --> 00:48:58,713
Aha, it's a pattern,
white marks, strokes.
1080
00:48:58,715 --> 00:49:01,149
So he tried to wipe off the
blood, maybe what, with bleach?
1081
00:49:01,151 --> 00:49:04,152
Yeah, but he didn't
get it all, hence the glow.
1082
00:49:11,795 --> 00:49:13,995
Okay.
1083
00:49:18,135 --> 00:49:20,235
Dried blood.
1084
00:49:20,237 --> 00:49:22,670
Quite apparent something
barbarous happened here.
1085
00:49:22,672 --> 00:49:23,938
Yeah.
1086
00:49:23,940 --> 00:49:25,306
Hey, you up for a flight?
1087
00:49:25,308 --> 00:49:27,609
- No, not really.
- Tough luck.
1088
00:49:27,611 --> 00:49:29,310
Our plane leaves in 40 minutes.
1089
00:49:29,312 --> 00:49:31,346
Rudnick just got picked up
in Syracuse for shoplifting.
1090
00:49:31,348 --> 00:49:32,680
Take a look.
1091
00:49:34,706 --> 00:49:36,650
_
1092
00:49:36,685 --> 00:49:38,319
We ran the prints,
but the system was down.
1093
00:49:38,321 --> 00:49:39,788
By the time we got a match,
he was gone.
1094
00:49:39,790 --> 00:49:41,189
He said his flight
was leaving in an hour.
1095
00:49:41,191 --> 00:49:43,691
So you let him walk?
Great.
1096
00:49:43,693 --> 00:49:45,593
We thought we had
a 50-year-old cross-dresser
1097
00:49:45,595 --> 00:49:48,296
near tears because his mother
was dying in Canada.
1098
00:49:48,298 --> 00:49:50,198
He stole a frickin' box
of Coffee Nips.
1099
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:51,332
All right, I get it.
1100
00:49:51,334 --> 00:49:53,802
- We did give him a desk ticket.
- Good for you!
1101
00:49:53,804 --> 00:49:55,503
Listen, Rollins,
their system was down.
1102
00:49:55,505 --> 00:49:57,672
He said his mother was dying.
1103
00:49:57,674 --> 00:49:59,474
All right,
we've had a long day.
1104
00:49:59,476 --> 00:50:00,975
The good news is, no one
with that name got on a plane,
1105
00:50:00,977 --> 00:50:02,210
train, or rented a car.
1106
00:50:02,212 --> 00:50:03,478
Did you check
his other aliases?
1107
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,113
'Cause he has at least four.
1108
00:50:05,115 --> 00:50:06,781
We did. Look, we got
this entire town locked down.
1109
00:50:06,783 --> 00:50:09,017
He's not going anywhere.
Planes, trains, automobiles.
1110
00:50:09,019 --> 00:50:10,285
Did you check buses?
1111
00:50:10,287 --> 00:50:11,986
A Meta Bus left an hour
ago for Buffalo.
1112
00:50:11,988 --> 00:50:13,388
He could walk to Canada
from there.
1113
00:50:13,390 --> 00:50:14,489
- Yeah.
- What time does it arrive?
1114
00:50:14,491 --> 00:50:15,757
It just left Rochester.
1115
00:50:15,759 --> 00:50:17,225
It's going to be there
in two and a half hours.
1116
00:50:17,227 --> 00:50:20,128
We're going
to need a squad car now.
1117
00:50:23,099 --> 00:50:25,767
Here comes our bus.
1118
00:50:30,140 --> 00:50:31,873
You're the detectives
from New York?
1119
00:50:31,875 --> 00:50:33,575
Yeah.
1120
00:50:33,577 --> 00:50:35,577
- Bob Hencamp, Buffalo PD.
- Dominick Carisi.
1121
00:50:35,579 --> 00:50:36,878
This is Detective Rollins.
1122
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:38,146
We call her Sunny.
1123
00:50:38,148 --> 00:50:40,882
Sunny Rollins? Okay.
1124
00:50:40,884 --> 00:50:42,984
Troopers picked up the bus
on I-90 an hour ago,
1125
00:50:42,986 --> 00:50:44,586
followed at a discreet distance.
1126
00:50:44,588 --> 00:50:45,954
Well, he's still on board.
1127
00:50:45,956 --> 00:50:48,423
There was an E. Howard credit
card purchase in Syracuse.
1128
00:50:48,425 --> 00:50:50,859
Bus didn't make any stops
between Rochester and here.
1129
00:50:50,861 --> 00:50:52,560
Okay, well,
let's do this thing.
1130
00:50:52,562 --> 00:50:55,296
Nice and easy, all right?
We don't want to spook him.
1131
00:50:58,668 --> 00:51:00,068
Dr. Rudnick.
1132
00:51:00,070 --> 00:51:01,903
- This is your guy?
- I'm Ellie Howard,
1133
00:51:01,905 --> 00:51:03,771
and I fully intend
to pay my fine for shoplifting.
1134
00:51:03,773 --> 00:51:05,440
Ms. Howard, stop.
1135
00:51:05,442 --> 00:51:06,941
Why don't you come
with us, all right?
1136
00:51:06,943 --> 00:51:09,611
We'll sort this out.
1137
00:51:09,613 --> 00:51:11,112
Hands behind your back, please.
1138
00:51:11,114 --> 00:51:12,881
Is that really necessary?
1139
00:51:12,883 --> 00:51:15,483
Let him do his job.
1140
00:51:21,258 --> 00:51:23,791
All right, come on.
1141
00:51:29,854 --> 00:51:31,522
So you got a cross-dressing
rapist, murderer
1142
00:51:31,524 --> 00:51:33,357
in your ME's office.
1143
00:51:33,359 --> 00:51:35,959
You guys down in New York City
really are progressive.
1144
00:51:35,961 --> 00:51:37,661
Did he say anything?
1145
00:51:37,663 --> 00:51:39,029
He bitched
when we searched him.
1146
00:51:39,031 --> 00:51:42,700
Maybe because he had a money
belt with 64,000 in cash.
1147
00:51:42,702 --> 00:51:44,368
So why is he shoplifting
Coffee Nips, then?
1148
00:51:44,370 --> 00:51:48,038
Well, that's
the $64,000 question.
1149
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,441
Just give me a minute
to finish paperwork,
1150
00:51:50,443 --> 00:51:53,110
and he's all yours.
1151
00:51:53,112 --> 00:51:55,145
Do you have a cause of death?
1152
00:51:55,147 --> 00:51:56,814
Manner, homicide.
1153
00:51:56,816 --> 00:51:59,149
No one ends up
like this accidently,
1154
00:51:59,151 --> 00:52:01,618
Cause of death, exsanguination.
1155
00:52:01,620 --> 00:52:03,187
So she bled out
when he cut her up.
1156
00:52:03,189 --> 00:52:06,557
No, the dismemberment
occurred postmortem.
1157
00:52:06,559 --> 00:52:09,226
The problem is I can't find
the initial wound.
1158
00:52:09,228 --> 00:52:11,862
Most likely trauma
to the femoral vein or artery...
1159
00:52:11,864 --> 00:52:13,797
stab wound, maybe gunshot.
1160
00:52:13,799 --> 00:52:15,466
To the missing left thigh?
1161
00:52:15,468 --> 00:52:18,902
I would guess that's
why Rudnick made it disappear.
1162
00:52:18,904 --> 00:52:20,637
There's something else.
1163
00:52:20,639 --> 00:52:23,207
Susie's tox screen
came back clean,
1164
00:52:23,209 --> 00:52:25,676
but her HCG levels were high.
1165
00:52:25,678 --> 00:52:27,211
She was pregnant.
1166
00:52:32,852 --> 00:52:34,351
We aren't actually
going to drive
1167
00:52:34,353 --> 00:52:35,886
all the way back
to Manhattan, are we?
1168
00:52:35,888 --> 00:52:37,354
Shut up.
1169
00:52:37,356 --> 00:52:39,089
You took the bus
up here anyway, right?
1170
00:52:39,091 --> 00:52:41,592
Yes, when I was traveling
incognito.
1171
00:52:41,594 --> 00:52:43,026
What were you thinking, anyway,
1172
00:52:43,028 --> 00:52:44,862
skipping out
on a $2 million bail?
1173
00:52:44,864 --> 00:52:46,029
Well, what were they thinking?
1174
00:52:46,031 --> 00:52:47,898
They charged me with two
murders, then let me go.
1175
00:52:47,900 --> 00:52:51,368
Who wouldn't run?
1176
00:52:51,370 --> 00:52:53,604
Hey, Sarge.
1177
00:52:53,606 --> 00:52:55,038
Yeah, we're making
pretty good time,
1178
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,541
as long
as we don't get pulled over.
1179
00:52:57,543 --> 00:52:58,542
We should be back around...
1180
00:52:58,544 --> 00:53:00,677
Wait. Hold on.
Let me check my app.
1181
00:53:00,679 --> 00:53:02,346
- Noon.
- Wait. Hold on.
1182
00:53:02,348 --> 00:53:03,680
- Noon.
- Noon.
1183
00:53:03,682 --> 00:53:06,016
All right,
we'll be back around noon.
1184
00:53:06,018 --> 00:53:09,119
All right.
Copy that.
1185
00:53:10,189 --> 00:53:12,356
They found his car.
1186
00:53:12,358 --> 00:53:13,590
Why are you whispering?
1187
00:53:13,592 --> 00:53:15,025
Rudnick, they found your car.
1188
00:53:15,027 --> 00:53:18,295
Well, give yourselves
a gold star.
1189
00:53:18,297 --> 00:53:20,898
We sure it's Rudnick's?
1190
00:53:20,900 --> 00:53:22,633
Plates and all identifiers
are stripped,
1191
00:53:22,635 --> 00:53:23,967
but we got the VIN
off the engine block.
1192
00:53:23,969 --> 00:53:25,536
Okay, so why here?
1193
00:53:25,538 --> 00:53:27,504
The train to the plane
is a block away.
1194
00:53:27,506 --> 00:53:29,640
Oh, so had
we found this any earlier,
1195
00:53:29,642 --> 00:53:31,074
we would have been
searching JFK.
1196
00:53:31,076 --> 00:53:33,444
While he got across the border
on his Meta Bus.
1197
00:53:33,446 --> 00:53:36,213
He's not stupid,
but he was in a rush.
1198
00:53:36,215 --> 00:53:37,581
He left blood.
1199
00:53:37,583 --> 00:53:39,716
Now, it's just a trace,
1200
00:53:39,718 --> 00:53:41,952
but that's all I need.
Great.
1201
00:53:41,954 --> 00:53:43,387
I'll call Barba.
1202
00:53:43,389 --> 00:53:48,058
A young man
like yourself working at SVU.
1203
00:53:48,060 --> 00:53:49,593
That has to be depressing.
1204
00:53:49,595 --> 00:53:52,696
- You work in a morgue.
- I find peace in that.
1205
00:53:52,698 --> 00:53:54,298
I bring closure to people.
1206
00:53:54,300 --> 00:53:56,433
Yeah,
when you're not killing them.
1207
00:53:56,435 --> 00:53:59,002
Death, in its way,
is the ultimate closure.
1208
00:53:59,004 --> 00:54:01,638
Is that a confession?
1209
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:03,507
Thanks.
1210
00:54:06,312 --> 00:54:08,278
Sure you don't want
something more substantial?
1211
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:09,713
Mm, yes, I'm sure.
1212
00:54:11,383 --> 00:54:13,016
Do you people think
about what you eat?
1213
00:54:13,018 --> 00:54:15,185
- Nope.
- You should.
1214
00:54:15,187 --> 00:54:16,687
All that cholesterol...
1215
00:54:16,689 --> 00:54:18,455
I could tell you
both right now what your livers
1216
00:54:18,457 --> 00:54:20,491
are going to look like when
they're eventually on the slab.
1217
00:54:20,493 --> 00:54:23,393
You know what?
Don't.
1218
00:54:25,164 --> 00:54:28,298
I don't mean to be a nuisance,
but may I use the facilities?
1219
00:54:35,307 --> 00:54:37,774
Whoa.
Hey, it's still occupied.
1220
00:54:37,776 --> 00:54:39,142
Hey, look, it's my uncle.
1221
00:54:39,144 --> 00:54:42,212
I'll see if I can hurry
him along, okay?
1222
00:54:43,282 --> 00:54:46,183
Well, This is unfortunate.
1223
00:54:46,185 --> 00:54:49,853
They think I killed that woman
and cut her up.
1224
00:54:49,855 --> 00:54:53,156
I don't understand why.
1225
00:54:53,158 --> 00:54:56,960
Of course, I do understand.
It's still offensive.
1226
00:54:56,962 --> 00:54:58,462
So are they.
1227
00:55:00,466 --> 00:55:04,301
Quiet, Doctor, quiet.
1228
00:55:04,303 --> 00:55:05,903
Good man.
1229
00:55:10,476 --> 00:55:12,876
Hey, Doc, come on,
we got to go.
1230
00:55:12,878 --> 00:55:14,645
Oh.
1231
00:55:14,647 --> 00:55:17,648
Could I trouble you
for my phone?
1232
00:55:17,650 --> 00:55:20,017
I need to call my lawyer.
1233
00:55:20,019 --> 00:55:23,320
- Mr. Barba?
- Uh-huh?
1234
00:55:25,157 --> 00:55:27,824
Rita...
1235
00:55:27,826 --> 00:55:29,993
you have one hell of a client.
1236
00:55:29,995 --> 00:55:31,028
Kills a pregnant witness
1237
00:55:31,030 --> 00:55:32,863
and tries to cross the border
in a dress.
1238
00:55:32,865 --> 00:55:34,431
Dr. Rudnick was out on bond.
1239
00:55:34,433 --> 00:55:36,700
He was simply taking
in the sights of Buffalo.
1240
00:55:36,702 --> 00:55:38,936
Uhhuh.
1241
00:55:38,938 --> 00:55:41,872
We have a DNA match
from Rachel Groves' hair
1242
00:55:41,874 --> 00:55:45,542
and blood on the kitchen floor
of an apartment that he leased.
1243
00:55:45,544 --> 00:55:48,378
He's an ME.
He autopsied her body.
1244
00:55:48,380 --> 00:55:50,514
It could be
cross-contamination.
1245
00:55:50,516 --> 00:55:52,516
Well, he didn't autopsy
Susie Frain,
1246
00:55:52,518 --> 00:55:54,084
and we found her blood
in his car.
1247
00:55:54,086 --> 00:55:57,187
They were old friends.
He gave her a ride.
1248
00:55:57,189 --> 00:55:58,789
She bled from a paper cut.
1249
00:55:58,791 --> 00:56:00,791
Both those cases
were circumstantial,
1250
00:56:00,793 --> 00:56:04,294
and don't get me started
on a 13-year-old body in a wall.
1251
00:56:04,296 --> 00:56:06,463
So why are you here, Rita?
1252
00:56:06,465 --> 00:56:09,132
You have an ME accused
of being a serial killer.
1253
00:56:09,134 --> 00:56:13,604
The last thing your bosses want
is a long, drawn-out trial.
1254
00:56:13,606 --> 00:56:16,940
And these headlines...
how are your migraines?
1255
00:56:17,402 --> 00:56:20,298
_
1256
00:56:21,183 --> 00:56:23,094
_
1257
00:56:23,816 --> 00:56:25,315
Your solution is?
1258
00:56:25,317 --> 00:56:28,986
Dr. Rudnick pleads to one
count of tampering with evidence
1259
00:56:28,988 --> 00:56:32,322
and one count
of unlawful disposal of a body.
1260
00:56:32,324 --> 00:56:36,093
This goes away
as quietly as possible.
1261
00:56:36,095 --> 00:56:37,661
Misdemeanors?
1262
00:56:37,663 --> 00:56:41,331
He killed three women.
1263
00:56:41,333 --> 00:56:42,966
I can offer manslaughter,
1264
00:56:42,968 --> 00:56:44,234
20 years on each,
served concurrently.
1265
00:56:44,236 --> 00:56:45,802
A public defender
can get as much.
1266
00:56:45,804 --> 00:56:47,971
He is paying
for more than that.
1267
00:56:50,342 --> 00:56:54,945
I hope there's enough money in
the world, Rita. I really do.
1268
00:56:54,947 --> 00:56:57,748
You better hope
you don't get a conviction,
1269
00:56:57,750 --> 00:56:59,282
because if you do,
1270
00:56:59,284 --> 00:57:01,952
every case Dr. Rudnick touched
will be subject to an appeal,
1271
00:57:01,954 --> 00:57:03,920
starting with Greg Yates.
1272
00:57:11,597 --> 00:57:14,097
Barba, what's up?
1273
00:57:14,099 --> 00:57:15,599
You still have a back door
to Yates?
1274
00:57:15,601 --> 00:57:17,768
Yeah, I think so.
1275
00:57:17,770 --> 00:57:19,369
I need you to open it.
1276
00:57:19,371 --> 00:57:23,306
Go up to Green Havenand speak to him.
1277
00:57:23,308 --> 00:57:26,677
Liv doesn't want me do that
unless she or Fin comes with,
1278
00:57:26,679 --> 00:57:28,612
and Yates
won't talk to me if they do.
1279
00:57:28,614 --> 00:57:30,580
Well, then don't tell her.
1280
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:36,286
What is it you want?
1281
00:57:36,288 --> 00:57:37,754
More.
1282
00:57:37,756 --> 00:57:39,356
Rudnick's legal team
is going to claim
1283
00:57:39,358 --> 00:57:42,325
all these murders
were circumstantial.
1284
00:57:42,327 --> 00:57:44,227
He cut up Susie Frain.
1285
00:57:44,229 --> 00:57:46,530
No left thigh,
no witnesses, no clear motive.
1286
00:57:46,532 --> 00:57:48,365
What are you talking about?
1287
00:57:48,367 --> 00:57:52,381
Yates had Susie call Rudnick
to her house to blackmail him.
1288
00:57:52,416 --> 00:57:53,501
That's why he killed her.
1289
00:57:53,536 --> 00:57:57,607
Tell Yates you need his help
to put Rudnick away.
1290
00:57:57,609 --> 00:57:59,543
See if he has anything
we can use.
1291
00:58:04,249 --> 00:58:06,950
I was so worried...
1292
00:58:06,952 --> 00:58:10,654
about what might happen
to Susie.
1293
00:58:10,656 --> 00:58:12,089
She was always so trusting.
1294
00:58:12,091 --> 00:58:15,459
She never saw the dark side
of people.
1295
00:58:15,461 --> 00:58:17,094
Like Dr. Rudnick.
1296
00:58:20,933 --> 00:58:24,701
What did she say to you
when you last spoke?
1297
00:58:24,703 --> 00:58:29,473
She firmly believed
that if she asked him,
1298
00:58:29,475 --> 00:58:32,876
he would work to set me free
in exchange for the photo.
1299
00:58:32,878 --> 00:58:35,712
I knew she was walking
into the lion's den,
1300
00:58:35,714 --> 00:58:37,013
but she wouldn't listen.
1301
00:58:37,015 --> 00:58:38,415
I...
1302
00:58:38,417 --> 00:58:41,585
I think she wanted me out
to be there when she gave birth.
1303
00:58:41,587 --> 00:58:43,453
So she told you
she was pregnant.
1304
00:58:43,455 --> 00:58:46,723
No, she didn't need to.
1305
00:58:46,725 --> 00:58:48,592
I knew.
1306
00:58:48,594 --> 00:58:52,095
She had
a slightly different scent...
1307
00:58:52,097 --> 00:58:54,397
like you do.
1308
00:58:56,201 --> 00:58:59,069
How far along are you,
Detective?
1309
00:59:37,119 --> 00:59:39,599
_
1310
00:59:39,634 --> 00:59:41,666
Ms. Calhoun,
are you ready to proceed?
1311
00:59:41,668 --> 00:59:43,435
- We are, Your Honor.
- Mr. Barba.
1312
00:59:43,437 --> 00:59:44,602
Your Honor, in addition
1313
00:59:44,604 --> 00:59:46,104
to the two standing charges
of murder one,
1314
00:59:46,106 --> 00:59:49,274
the defendant is now charged
with the murder of Susie Frain.
1315
00:59:49,276 --> 00:59:51,710
Dr. Rudnick,
how do you plead?
1316
00:59:51,712 --> 00:59:53,511
I apologize for being late,
Your Honor.
1317
00:59:53,513 --> 00:59:55,613
John Buchanan for the defense.
1318
00:59:55,615 --> 00:59:57,082
My client pleads not guilty.
1319
00:59:57,084 --> 00:59:58,817
I know who you are, Counselor,
1320
00:59:58,819 --> 01:00:01,186
but I'm not a fan
of courtroom theatrics.
1321
01:00:01,188 --> 01:00:03,288
What's going on here,
Ms. Calhoun?
1322
01:00:03,290 --> 01:00:07,058
I just need a moment
to confer with my client.
1323
01:00:07,060 --> 01:00:09,027
So he is still your client.
1324
01:00:09,029 --> 01:00:11,096
He is, Your Honor. Dr. Rudnick
has retained us both.
1325
01:00:11,098 --> 01:00:12,297
You have?
1326
01:00:12,299 --> 01:00:14,299
Rita, the state
saw fit to double down.
1327
01:00:14,301 --> 01:00:16,101
I thought it prudent
to do the same.
1328
01:00:16,103 --> 01:00:17,902
Now, you both have
my complete confidence.
1329
01:00:17,904 --> 01:00:19,804
May we proceed?
1330
01:00:19,806 --> 01:00:21,339
- People on bail.
- Remand.
1331
01:00:21,341 --> 01:00:23,608
While out on bail,
the defendant murdered
1332
01:00:23,610 --> 01:00:26,111
and dismembered
a prosecution witness.
1333
01:00:26,113 --> 01:00:27,445
Another wild accusation.
1334
01:00:27,447 --> 01:00:30,081
More to the point, he is free
to travel within the state.
1335
01:00:30,083 --> 01:00:32,317
He has violated no court order.
1336
01:00:32,319 --> 01:00:34,252
- That is absolutely correct.
- Enough, Doctor.
1337
01:00:34,254 --> 01:00:37,989
Your bail was a privilege
that has just been revoked.
1338
01:00:37,991 --> 01:00:39,824
You are remanded to Rikers.
1339
01:00:39,826 --> 01:00:43,128
In that case, I have a motion
to separate these three charges.
1340
01:00:43,130 --> 01:00:44,462
As do I.
1341
01:00:44,464 --> 01:00:47,198
Coordinate,
and I'll let the presiding judge
1342
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:48,433
know what he's in for.
1343
01:00:48,435 --> 01:00:50,101
Good day.
1344
01:00:54,908 --> 01:00:56,241
Hey.
1345
01:00:56,243 --> 01:00:57,409
Missed you in court.
1346
01:00:57,411 --> 01:01:00,245
- Yeah.
- You look green.
1347
01:01:00,247 --> 01:01:02,080
Have a ginger ale.
1348
01:01:03,917 --> 01:01:05,784
I'm good.
1349
01:01:07,587 --> 01:01:09,521
So have you told anybody yet?
1350
01:01:17,431 --> 01:01:19,297
Nope.
1351
01:01:22,269 --> 01:01:24,169
I just found out.
1352
01:01:27,107 --> 01:01:29,774
And not that it's any
of your business,
1353
01:01:29,776 --> 01:01:31,476
but, you know,
it's not Nick's, so...
1354
01:01:31,478 --> 01:01:33,778
Okay.
1355
01:01:33,780 --> 01:01:35,280
What are you going to do?
1356
01:01:35,282 --> 01:01:37,615
I'm not going to do anything.
1357
01:01:37,617 --> 01:01:40,418
Well, you might want
to tell the sarge.
1358
01:01:46,460 --> 01:01:49,828
Whiskey.
Does that mean it's bad news?
1359
01:01:49,830 --> 01:01:52,530
Rudnick's dream team
just got their first win.
1360
01:01:52,532 --> 01:01:53,832
The judge granted their motion
1361
01:01:53,834 --> 01:01:55,166
to separate out
the three charges.
1362
01:01:55,168 --> 01:01:57,669
How?
There's a clear pattern.
1363
01:01:57,671 --> 01:01:59,471
Not really.
1364
01:01:59,473 --> 01:02:01,940
The murders are spread out
over 13 years,
1365
01:02:01,942 --> 01:02:03,975
and the motives
are arguably different.
1366
01:02:03,977 --> 01:02:05,276
Lena was his fiancee.
1367
01:02:05,278 --> 01:02:07,212
Susie was blackmailing him,
1368
01:02:07,214 --> 01:02:09,647
and Rachel... she was just easy
pickings, crime of opportunity.
1369
01:02:09,649 --> 01:02:11,216
Okay, I get it.
So the judge thought
1370
01:02:11,218 --> 01:02:12,650
that linking the three
together would be
1371
01:02:12,652 --> 01:02:15,787
- more prejudicial than probative.
- Prejudicial than probative.
1372
01:02:15,789 --> 01:02:17,555
Okay.
1373
01:02:17,557 --> 01:02:18,890
So what do you need from me?
1374
01:02:18,892 --> 01:02:22,360
A thigh,
to establish cause of death.
1375
01:02:22,362 --> 01:02:24,062
Susie Frain
is our strongest case.
1376
01:02:24,064 --> 01:02:27,632
The thigh is gone,
but you don't need it.
1377
01:02:27,634 --> 01:02:29,300
He cut her up, Barba.
1378
01:02:29,302 --> 01:02:32,036
I don't care how good
those lawyers think they are.
1379
01:02:32,038 --> 01:02:35,206
When the jury sees
what he did to that woman...
1380
01:02:35,208 --> 01:02:37,141
he's done.
1381
01:02:42,831 --> 01:02:44,279
_
1382
01:02:44,314 --> 01:02:45,917
Were you able
to identify the victim?
1383
01:02:45,919 --> 01:02:48,319
Yes.
In another bag we opened,
1384
01:02:48,321 --> 01:02:52,190
we found the decapitated head
of Susie Frain.
1385
01:02:52,192 --> 01:02:54,392
It was...
1386
01:02:54,394 --> 01:02:56,261
one of the most
gruesome crime scenes
1387
01:02:56,263 --> 01:02:57,562
that I've ever witnessed.
1388
01:02:57,564 --> 01:02:59,197
Objection.
1389
01:02:59,199 --> 01:03:01,933
These injuries occurred
after Ms. Frain's death.
1390
01:03:01,935 --> 01:03:04,102
They have no bearing
on the murder charge
1391
01:03:04,104 --> 01:03:06,371
and serve only
to prejudice this jury.
1392
01:03:06,373 --> 01:03:07,939
Overruled.
1393
01:03:07,941 --> 01:03:09,507
I'll allow up to a point,
1394
01:03:09,509 --> 01:03:11,109
and I want to remind the jury
1395
01:03:11,111 --> 01:03:12,944
that you're here to determine
the facts of the murder
1396
01:03:12,946 --> 01:03:16,581
and not what happened
to the body postmortem.
1397
01:03:16,583 --> 01:03:20,418
Sergeant Benson, the body
on the beach was Susie Frain?
1398
01:03:20,420 --> 01:03:22,353
Yes, without a doubt.
1399
01:03:22,355 --> 01:03:24,422
DNA links all the pieces.
1400
01:03:24,424 --> 01:03:26,357
Nothing further.
1401
01:03:33,133 --> 01:03:34,966
Good morning, Sergeant.
1402
01:03:34,968 --> 01:03:36,801
When you first met Ms. Frain,
1403
01:03:36,803 --> 01:03:39,571
it was in connection with
another murder case, correct?
1404
01:03:39,573 --> 01:03:40,972
It was.
1405
01:03:40,974 --> 01:03:43,207
The brutal kidnapping,
rape, and murder
1406
01:03:43,209 --> 01:03:47,879
of a Chicago PD employee by
Ms. Frain's fiancee, Greg Yates.
1407
01:03:47,881 --> 01:03:49,113
Yes.
1408
01:03:49,115 --> 01:03:50,882
Did Ms. Frain
1409
01:03:50,884 --> 01:03:54,385
maintain his innocence even
after Dr. Yates' conviction?
1410
01:03:54,387 --> 01:03:55,887
Objection.
Relevance.
1411
01:03:55,889 --> 01:03:57,789
Your Honor,
I intend to show a direct line
1412
01:03:57,791 --> 01:04:02,560
between Ms. Frain's pathological
desire to clear her fiancee
1413
01:04:02,562 --> 01:04:05,063
and the events
that led to her death.
1414
01:04:05,065 --> 01:04:06,965
I'll allow.
1415
01:04:06,967 --> 01:04:10,568
Did Ms. Frain ever become
aware that Dr. Carl Rudnick
1416
01:04:10,570 --> 01:04:13,504
was the Deputy Chief ME
for Manhattan
1417
01:04:13,506 --> 01:04:17,675
who had supervised the autopsies
of Dr. Yates' victims?
1418
01:04:17,677 --> 01:04:19,243
Yes, and I know
that it's your job
1419
01:04:19,245 --> 01:04:20,812
to try to make a connection
between the two...
1420
01:04:20,814 --> 01:04:23,848
Well, so let me do my job.
1421
01:04:23,850 --> 01:04:25,817
And after that,
1422
01:04:25,819 --> 01:04:29,520
did you and ADA Barba
1423
01:04:29,522 --> 01:04:31,356
helpfully arrange
for a conjugal visit
1424
01:04:31,358 --> 01:04:34,759
between Ms. Frain
and Dr. Yates?
1425
01:04:34,761 --> 01:04:36,527
We did.
1426
01:04:36,529 --> 01:04:40,131
Once reunited, did they both
spontaneously accuse Dr. Rudnick
1427
01:04:40,133 --> 01:04:41,366
of a series of crimes?
1428
01:04:41,368 --> 01:04:42,667
Yes, but there were also
1429
01:04:42,669 --> 01:04:44,102
two other women
who had been murdered.
1430
01:04:44,104 --> 01:04:48,139
So is it possible
that they were colluding
1431
01:04:48,141 --> 01:04:52,010
to incriminate Dr. Rudnick
in hopes of discrediting him
1432
01:04:52,012 --> 01:04:55,713
and thus bolstering
Yates' chance for an appeal.
1433
01:04:55,715 --> 01:04:57,649
Objection.
Speculation.
1434
01:04:57,651 --> 01:04:59,784
Is it?
1435
01:04:59,786 --> 01:05:02,086
Withdrawn.
1436
01:05:02,088 --> 01:05:04,322
Nothing further.
1437
01:05:04,324 --> 01:05:06,591
Thank you, Sergeant.
1438
01:05:14,534 --> 01:05:15,900
Susie Frain was cooperating
1439
01:05:15,902 --> 01:05:18,069
with a separate investigation
into Dr. Rudnick.
1440
01:05:18,071 --> 01:05:19,504
Objection, Your Honor.
1441
01:05:19,506 --> 01:05:21,172
This line goes directly
to motive.
1442
01:05:21,174 --> 01:05:24,242
I'll allow
but only in that context.
1443
01:05:24,244 --> 01:05:25,977
In what way was Ms. Frain
cooperating?
1444
01:05:25,979 --> 01:05:27,745
She was searching for photos
1445
01:05:27,747 --> 01:05:30,381
which we believed would provide
evidence against Dr. Rudnick,
1446
01:05:30,383 --> 01:05:31,516
but she was murdered
1447
01:05:31,518 --> 01:05:33,251
before she had the chance
to deliver them to us.
1448
01:05:33,253 --> 01:05:36,854
Did you find these photos
in her home?
1449
01:05:36,856 --> 01:05:39,424
No, but as the crime-scene
pictures show...
1450
01:05:39,426 --> 01:05:41,826
People's exhibit 47A,
47B, Your Honor.
1451
01:05:41,828 --> 01:05:44,062
Objection.
This is prejudicial.
1452
01:05:44,064 --> 01:05:45,329
It's a crime scene.
1453
01:05:45,331 --> 01:05:48,099
Agreed. Overruled.
1454
01:05:48,101 --> 01:05:51,602
So you can see
her ransacked memento boxes,
1455
01:05:51,604 --> 01:05:53,938
and we also later
obtained security footage
1456
01:05:53,940 --> 01:05:55,373
from her mini-storage facility.
1457
01:05:55,375 --> 01:05:56,708
People's exhibit 48A.
1458
01:05:56,710 --> 01:05:58,509
Where you can see the victim
1459
01:05:58,511 --> 01:06:01,879
had retrieved those same boxes
the day before she was murdered,
1460
01:06:01,881 --> 01:06:03,681
so we believe
whoever killed her
1461
01:06:03,683 --> 01:06:05,283
took the incriminating photos
with them.
1462
01:06:05,285 --> 01:06:07,085
Objection.
Pure speculation.
1463
01:06:07,087 --> 01:06:10,221
Sustained.
Jury will disregard.
1464
01:06:13,359 --> 01:06:14,592
Nothing further.
1465
01:06:14,594 --> 01:06:15,960
You just said
that Ms. Frain
1466
01:06:15,962 --> 01:06:17,595
had agreed to search
for these photos.
1467
01:06:17,597 --> 01:06:20,064
Is there any reason
to think that she found them?
1468
01:06:20,066 --> 01:06:21,866
Sergeant Benson and I
were informed of that fact
1469
01:06:21,868 --> 01:06:23,101
by Dr. Yates.
1470
01:06:23,103 --> 01:06:24,769
Dr. Yates.
1471
01:06:24,771 --> 01:06:27,739
You mean
the convicted murderer?
1472
01:06:27,741 --> 01:06:32,276
I see from the prison logs
that you visited Dr. Yates
1473
01:06:32,278 --> 01:06:34,112
a half a dozen times
in the last few weeks.
1474
01:06:34,114 --> 01:06:36,981
I was hoping he could help me
with a number of unsolved cases.
1475
01:06:36,983 --> 01:06:39,217
Two of those visits
you undertook on your own.
1476
01:06:39,219 --> 01:06:42,920
Is that common practice
for a female NYPD detective?
1477
01:06:44,791 --> 01:06:46,424
He was more open to me
that way.
1478
01:06:46,426 --> 01:06:48,793
So he confided in you.
1479
01:06:48,795 --> 01:06:52,830
Did he also enlist you to help
him get a conjugal visit
1480
01:06:52,832 --> 01:06:54,632
with Ms. Frain?
1481
01:06:54,634 --> 01:06:56,768
- Sure.
- Given that, it seems fair
1482
01:06:56,770 --> 01:07:00,338
to say that you had
a relationship with Mr. Yates.
1483
01:07:00,340 --> 01:07:02,507
- Not in the way you mean.
- Oh, how do I mean it?
1484
01:07:02,509 --> 01:07:03,808
Objection.
1485
01:07:03,810 --> 01:07:05,576
I'll rephrase.
1486
01:07:05,578 --> 01:07:07,111
Did anyone in your squad
1487
01:07:07,113 --> 01:07:09,747
ever think that Mr. Yates
was toying with you,
1488
01:07:09,749 --> 01:07:12,283
attempting to implicate
Dr. Rudnick
1489
01:07:12,285 --> 01:07:15,453
in an effort
to exonerate himself?
1490
01:07:15,455 --> 01:07:19,290
All informants have an agenda.
1491
01:07:19,292 --> 01:07:22,593
Good detectives...
1492
01:07:22,595 --> 01:07:24,529
evaluate their credibility.
1493
01:07:24,531 --> 01:07:26,931
Your answer is yes, then?
1494
01:07:26,933 --> 01:07:28,332
Objection.
1495
01:07:28,334 --> 01:07:30,434
Withdrawn.
1496
01:07:30,436 --> 01:07:32,904
I'll quit while I'm ahead.
1497
01:07:37,710 --> 01:07:40,711
Hey, you okay?
1498
01:07:40,713 --> 01:07:43,681
Yeah, I thought it was Rudnick
on trial, not Yates or me.
1499
01:07:43,683 --> 01:07:46,050
A lot of pressure up there.
1500
01:07:46,052 --> 01:07:48,653
It is.
1501
01:07:48,655 --> 01:07:51,022
Also, um...
1502
01:07:51,024 --> 01:07:53,658
I'm pregnant.
1503
01:07:53,660 --> 01:07:55,693
Wow.
1504
01:07:55,695 --> 01:07:58,462
Not Nick's.
1505
01:07:58,464 --> 01:08:00,498
Okay.
1506
01:08:00,500 --> 01:08:02,500
Thanks for telling me.
1507
01:08:02,502 --> 01:08:04,869
And I know with the squad
being shorthanded,
1508
01:08:04,871 --> 01:08:06,370
it's not the best time for me,
1509
01:08:06,372 --> 01:08:07,638
but I want to promise you
1510
01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:10,341
this is not going to affect
my ability to do my job.
1511
01:08:10,343 --> 01:08:12,743
Actually, it is,
Amanda, you know.
1512
01:08:12,745 --> 01:08:14,412
Yeah, of course,
but I just meant...
1513
01:08:14,414 --> 01:08:16,647
Look, I know you're going
to fight me on this,
1514
01:08:16,649 --> 01:08:18,316
but as soon
as the Department hears,
1515
01:08:18,318 --> 01:08:20,418
they're going
to put you on restricted duty.
1516
01:08:20,420 --> 01:08:23,921
Can we wait to tell them?
1517
01:08:23,923 --> 01:08:26,891
I just want to work
until the last minute.
1518
01:08:26,893 --> 01:08:30,027
I know what a hard worker
you are.
1519
01:08:30,029 --> 01:08:33,531
It's a really good thing,
'cause...
1520
01:08:33,533 --> 01:08:36,734
because being a single mom
is, uh...
1521
01:08:36,736 --> 01:08:39,503
it's not easy.
1522
01:08:39,505 --> 01:08:41,005
Well, I may not be on my own.
1523
01:08:41,007 --> 01:08:44,075
My mom might actually
move up to New York.
1524
01:08:44,077 --> 01:08:45,676
Good, good.
1525
01:08:45,678 --> 01:08:47,345
Yeah.
1526
01:08:47,347 --> 01:08:51,749
Well, I want you to know
I'm... I'm really happy for you.
1527
01:08:51,751 --> 01:08:54,051
And, you know, if you want
1528
01:08:54,053 --> 01:08:58,756
or need to talk
about anything...
1529
01:08:58,758 --> 01:09:00,458
I'm here.
1530
01:09:01,928 --> 01:09:03,628
Okay.
1531
01:09:11,629 --> 01:09:13,763
Susie Frain's cause of death
was exsanguination.
1532
01:09:13,765 --> 01:09:14,965
She bled out.
1533
01:09:14,967 --> 01:09:16,399
Yet you were unable
to determine
1534
01:09:16,401 --> 01:09:18,335
where the initial wound
was made, Dr. Warner?
1535
01:09:18,337 --> 01:09:19,336
Correct.
1536
01:09:19,338 --> 01:09:20,837
I believe it was in the piece
1537
01:09:20,839 --> 01:09:23,940
of Susie Frain's thigh
that remains missing.
1538
01:09:23,942 --> 01:09:25,709
What made you come
to that conclusion?
1539
01:09:25,711 --> 01:09:28,545
The lack of blood
in her other body parts.
1540
01:09:28,547 --> 01:09:30,847
And how many
different body parts
1541
01:09:30,849 --> 01:09:32,349
were you able to examine?
1542
01:09:32,351 --> 01:09:33,350
Objection.
1543
01:09:33,352 --> 01:09:34,918
The prosecution keeps trying
1544
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:37,954
to poison this jury with what
happened to the victim's body.
1545
01:09:37,956 --> 01:09:41,658
Overruled. But let's
move it along, Mr. Barba.
1546
01:09:41,660 --> 01:09:44,461
Despite being unable
to locate the initial wound,
1547
01:09:44,463 --> 01:09:45,962
what did you list
as manner of death?
1548
01:09:45,964 --> 01:09:47,297
Homicide.
1549
01:09:47,299 --> 01:09:50,133
No one ends up cut
into pieces like this
1550
01:09:50,135 --> 01:09:52,836
after an accidental
or natural death.
1551
01:09:52,838 --> 01:09:55,171
Nothing further.
1552
01:09:55,173 --> 01:09:57,540
Dr. Warner...
1553
01:09:57,542 --> 01:10:01,277
both Ms. Frain's
and my client's blood
1554
01:10:01,279 --> 01:10:04,147
were found
in Ms. Frain's house.
1555
01:10:04,149 --> 01:10:06,650
- Isn't that right?
- Yes.
1556
01:10:06,652 --> 01:10:09,819
Defense exhibit 13.
1557
01:10:09,821 --> 01:10:14,157
My client had defensive wounds
on his hand and forearms
1558
01:10:14,159 --> 01:10:15,992
when you examined him.
1559
01:10:15,994 --> 01:10:17,694
Yes, he did.
1560
01:10:17,696 --> 01:10:20,263
However, I can't tell you
how he sustained those injuries.
1561
01:10:20,265 --> 01:10:22,766
Just like you can't tell us
how Ms. Frain
1562
01:10:22,768 --> 01:10:24,434
sustained her fatal injury.
1563
01:10:24,436 --> 01:10:27,037
Dr. Rudnick walked
out of that house.
1564
01:10:27,039 --> 01:10:29,005
Susie Frain did not.
1565
01:10:29,007 --> 01:10:32,342
And yet your own autopsy can't
determine how she was killed.
1566
01:10:33,845 --> 01:10:38,348
Dr. Rudnick was hired as
your supervisor two years ago.
1567
01:10:39,451 --> 01:10:41,017
Did you apply
for that position?
1568
01:10:41,019 --> 01:10:43,286
- Yes, but that's not...
- Withdrawn.
1569
01:10:43,288 --> 01:10:45,822
Nothing further.
1570
01:10:45,824 --> 01:10:48,224
Redirect, Your Honor.
1571
01:10:48,226 --> 01:10:50,960
In your opinion,
could Dr. Rudnick's wounds
1572
01:10:50,962 --> 01:10:53,663
have been self-inflicted
after he killed Ms. Frain?
1573
01:10:53,665 --> 01:10:55,498
Yes, absolutely.
1574
01:10:55,500 --> 01:10:57,867
Thank you.
Prosecution rests.
1575
01:10:59,805 --> 01:11:02,305
Hey, Counselor,
you did a nice job in there.
1576
01:11:02,307 --> 01:11:03,973
I'll feel a lot better
when this whole thing is over.
1577
01:11:03,975 --> 01:11:06,376
It's already over. Rudnick's
team... they got nothing.
1578
01:11:06,378 --> 01:11:08,044
I mean, are they really going
to claim self-defense
1579
01:11:08,046 --> 01:11:09,312
when he cut her into pieces?
1580
01:11:09,314 --> 01:11:11,047
Something's coming.
1581
01:11:11,049 --> 01:11:13,850
I've never seen a legal team
so cocky or a defendant so calm.
1582
01:11:13,852 --> 01:11:15,251
That's hubris.
1583
01:11:15,253 --> 01:11:17,087
I mean, they're not digging up
any character witnesses,
1584
01:11:17,089 --> 01:11:19,055
and no way in hell Rudnick
takes the stand.
1585
01:11:21,842 --> 01:11:23,548
_
1586
01:11:23,583 --> 01:11:26,529
The defense
calls Dr. Carl Rudnick.
1587
01:11:33,839 --> 01:11:37,273
Dr. Rudnick, tell the jury
in your own words
1588
01:11:37,275 --> 01:11:41,010
what happened the night you went
to Ms. Frain's apartment.
1589
01:11:41,012 --> 01:11:43,513
She attacked me
with a kitchen knife.
1590
01:11:43,515 --> 01:11:45,215
There was a struggle.
1591
01:11:45,217 --> 01:11:49,152
I killed her accidently
in self-defense.
1592
01:11:52,791 --> 01:11:55,425
Dr. Yates
had brainwashed Susie
1593
01:11:55,427 --> 01:11:57,627
into believing
I'd been setting him up.
1594
01:11:57,629 --> 01:12:01,064
She accused me of tampering with
the autopsies of his victims,
1595
01:12:01,066 --> 01:12:03,099
which is patently absurd.
1596
01:12:03,101 --> 01:12:05,935
He'd operated
in several disparate states.
1597
01:12:05,937 --> 01:12:08,138
And I made the impertinent
mistake of laughing.
1598
01:12:08,140 --> 01:12:10,140
And what did she do?
1599
01:12:10,142 --> 01:12:11,941
She grabbed a knife
and attacked me.
1600
01:12:11,943 --> 01:12:16,479
I defended myself, resulting in
these cuts on my hand and arms.
1601
01:12:16,481 --> 01:12:17,981
Could you step down
1602
01:12:17,983 --> 01:12:22,051
and demonstrate how you received
those wounds, Dr. Rudnick?
1603
01:12:22,053 --> 01:12:23,286
Objection. Prejudicial.
1604
01:12:23,288 --> 01:12:25,155
What?
How will the jury know
1605
01:12:25,157 --> 01:12:27,390
what really happened
if I can't demonstrate?
1606
01:12:27,392 --> 01:12:28,958
Your Honor,
I think a demonstration
1607
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:30,426
could be informative.
1608
01:12:30,428 --> 01:12:32,128
I'll allow it,
but don't milk it.
1609
01:12:55,787 --> 01:12:57,420
Is this how she held it?
1610
01:12:57,422 --> 01:12:59,455
Yes. She pulled the knife
from the butcher block
1611
01:12:59,457 --> 01:13:00,623
and swung it down at me.
1612
01:13:00,625 --> 01:13:02,292
Like this?
1613
01:13:02,294 --> 01:13:04,460
Yes, I fended her off
for a moment.
1614
01:13:04,462 --> 01:13:05,962
But she kept coming.
1615
01:13:05,964 --> 01:13:08,998
Unfortunately, I pushed
her wrist on the downward swing.
1616
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:12,502
She put her body weight
into the thrust,
1617
01:13:12,504 --> 01:13:15,305
and momentum drove the knife
1618
01:13:15,307 --> 01:13:17,807
into her left thigh.
1619
01:13:21,313 --> 01:13:23,880
Doctor...
1620
01:13:23,882 --> 01:13:26,616
do you need a moment?
1621
01:13:26,618 --> 01:13:28,318
No.
1622
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:30,486
I'm fine.
1623
01:13:30,488 --> 01:13:32,355
Thank you.
1624
01:13:33,992 --> 01:13:35,658
Thank you.
1625
01:13:42,667 --> 01:13:45,201
What happened next?
1626
01:13:45,203 --> 01:13:46,569
Well, when I saw the blood,
1627
01:13:46,571 --> 01:13:49,005
I knew it had hit
the femoral artery.
1628
01:13:49,007 --> 01:13:51,808
I was in shock, uh, bleeding.
1629
01:13:51,810 --> 01:13:54,944
I momentarily lost
consciousness,
1630
01:13:54,946 --> 01:13:57,847
and when I came to,
it was too late to save her.
1631
01:13:57,849 --> 01:13:59,916
And then what happened?
1632
01:13:59,918 --> 01:14:01,084
I stitched my cuts,
1633
01:14:01,086 --> 01:14:03,086
because I was afraid
to go to the hospital.
1634
01:14:03,088 --> 01:14:04,654
Why was that?
1635
01:14:04,656 --> 01:14:07,257
I felt if I went in bleeding,
1636
01:14:07,259 --> 01:14:09,259
no one would believe
a word I had to say.
1637
01:14:09,261 --> 01:14:12,562
How would you describe
your state of mind?
1638
01:14:12,564 --> 01:14:14,364
I was panicking.
1639
01:14:14,366 --> 01:14:16,266
That's why I tried to get rid
of Susie's body.
1640
01:14:16,268 --> 01:14:17,967
I'm not proud of that,
1641
01:14:17,969 --> 01:14:21,137
but by then, I felt the whole
system had turned against me.
1642
01:14:21,139 --> 01:14:23,973
It was fight or flight,
and I chose to flee.
1643
01:14:23,975 --> 01:14:27,944
And when you fled, you
disguised yourself as a woman.
1644
01:14:27,946 --> 01:14:29,779
Everyone was looking
for Carl Rudnick.
1645
01:14:29,781 --> 01:14:31,981
No one was looking for Carla.
1646
01:14:31,983 --> 01:14:34,684
It seemed to be a good idea
at the time.
1647
01:14:34,686 --> 01:14:38,087
Thank you, Doctor.
1648
01:14:38,089 --> 01:14:39,923
Mr. Barba.
1649
01:14:39,925 --> 01:14:42,292
Dr. Rudnick, are you the
Deputy Chief Medical Examiner
1650
01:14:42,294 --> 01:14:43,593
for Manhattan?
1651
01:14:43,595 --> 01:14:46,729
I was.
I believe I'm on leave now.
1652
01:14:46,731 --> 01:14:48,865
As such, you would know
exactly how to mimic
1653
01:14:48,867 --> 01:14:50,900
defensive wounds, wouldn't you?
1654
01:14:50,902 --> 01:14:52,135
Are you implying that...
1655
01:14:52,137 --> 01:14:55,271
- Yes or no.
- Yes.
1656
01:14:55,273 --> 01:14:59,642
And you would know how
to cut up and dispose of a body.
1657
01:14:59,644 --> 01:15:01,611
An unfortunate area
of expertise
1658
01:15:01,613 --> 01:15:04,213
for someone accused of murder,
but it is mine.
1659
01:15:04,215 --> 01:15:05,782
Did you use a reciprocating saw
1660
01:15:05,784 --> 01:15:07,283
and bolt cutter to do so?
1661
01:15:07,285 --> 01:15:10,286
People's Exhibit 52...
1662
01:15:10,288 --> 01:15:13,623
a receipt for a saw
and bolt cutter...
1663
01:15:15,927 --> 01:15:18,127
From Home Depot...
1664
01:15:18,129 --> 01:15:22,966
paid with Carl Rudnick's
American Express card at 11:50
1665
01:15:22,968 --> 01:15:26,302
on the night Susie Frain
was murdered.
1666
01:15:26,304 --> 01:15:27,770
Yes, luckily, I was
able to make it there
1667
01:15:27,772 --> 01:15:29,639
- before closing time.
- Ha.
1668
01:15:29,641 --> 01:15:31,941
As you said, you knew
exactly what you were doing,
1669
01:15:31,943 --> 01:15:33,910
so it is no accident
that the one part
1670
01:15:33,912 --> 01:15:35,611
of Susie Frain's body,
1671
01:15:35,613 --> 01:15:38,915
the piece that could confirm
or refute your story,
1672
01:15:38,917 --> 01:15:41,884
her left thigh,
is the part that's missing.
1673
01:15:41,886 --> 01:15:43,920
Well, you're not suggesting
I can control the vagaries
1674
01:15:43,922 --> 01:15:45,855
of the tides, are you?
1675
01:15:45,857 --> 01:15:48,958
It is my most fervent wish
that Susie's limb be found,
1676
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:50,927
because it would prove
what I'm saying.
1677
01:15:50,929 --> 01:15:53,029
I mean, the angle
of the blade's entry
1678
01:15:53,031 --> 01:15:55,098
would show her wound
was self-inflicted.
1679
01:15:55,100 --> 01:15:56,366
Self inflicted?
1680
01:15:56,368 --> 01:15:57,667
Did she dismember herself too?
1681
01:15:57,669 --> 01:16:00,770
No, obviously I did that.
1682
01:16:00,772 --> 01:16:03,973
I didn't know of any other way
to get her out of there.
1683
01:16:08,146 --> 01:16:09,579
That was brutal.
1684
01:16:09,581 --> 01:16:11,280
You got some good shots in
towards the end of your cross.
1685
01:16:11,282 --> 01:16:14,617
Did I? Two hours...
every time I lunged, he parried.
1686
01:16:14,619 --> 01:16:16,352
The longer he was up there,
the more the jury liked him.
1687
01:16:16,354 --> 01:16:17,653
How is that possible?
1688
01:16:17,655 --> 01:16:19,155
I don't know...
I mean, he's peculiar,
1689
01:16:19,157 --> 01:16:20,656
but there's something
interesting about him.
1690
01:16:20,658 --> 01:16:21,958
It's weird,
but at the end of our road trip,
1691
01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:23,526
- I kind of missed the guy.
- You kind of miss...
1692
01:16:23,528 --> 01:16:24,794
- You missed him?
- Yeah.
1693
01:16:24,796 --> 01:16:26,029
I thought you two
talked too much.
1694
01:16:26,031 --> 01:16:27,563
Yeah, he does talk.
1695
01:16:27,565 --> 01:16:29,198
I mean,
he went into the bathroom.
1696
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:30,900
He was alone in the stall.
He thought nobody was listening,
1697
01:16:30,902 --> 01:16:32,568
and he kept
the conversation going alone.
1698
01:16:32,570 --> 01:16:34,037
You know what? He talks
during his autopsies too.
1699
01:16:34,039 --> 01:16:35,238
He records everything.
1700
01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:36,606
I don't know...
we might go through them,
1701
01:16:36,608 --> 01:16:38,841
see if he let something slip.
1702
01:16:38,843 --> 01:16:40,510
They're city property,
public records.
1703
01:16:40,512 --> 01:16:44,414
It's worth a shot.
Make a night of it, Rollins?
1704
01:16:44,416 --> 01:16:49,118
Caucasian female,late 20s, red hair.
1705
01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:52,688
Like so many redheads,less susceptible to anesthesia.
1706
01:16:54,592 --> 01:16:58,594
She felt everythingthat was being done to her.
1707
01:16:58,596 --> 01:17:00,263
I found out
why he likes redheads.
1708
01:17:00,265 --> 01:17:01,898
That's all I got.
Shh.
1709
01:17:05,103 --> 01:17:07,270
I think I got something.
1710
01:17:07,272 --> 01:17:08,571
From an autopsy?
1711
01:17:08,573 --> 01:17:11,474
No, video,
and it's not from the morgue.
1712
01:17:23,453 --> 01:17:25,488
Given the changein tenor of this conversation,
1713
01:17:25,490 --> 01:17:27,857
I'm contacting my lawyer.
1714
01:17:27,859 --> 01:17:29,559
I'd like to exercisethat right.
1715
01:17:29,561 --> 01:17:30,760
Feel free.
1716
01:17:30,762 --> 01:17:33,462
We will wait to continuequestioning you
1717
01:17:33,464 --> 01:17:35,531
until a lawyer arrives.
1718
01:17:41,706 --> 01:17:44,674
They can't pin these on you.
1719
01:17:47,145 --> 01:17:49,679
Rachel was a crack whore.
1720
01:17:51,482 --> 01:17:54,317
And with the green nail polish
1721
01:17:54,319 --> 01:17:57,353
and the proximityto Yates' victims...
1722
01:17:58,990 --> 01:18:01,090
That's far too muchreasonable doubt.
1723
01:18:01,092 --> 01:18:03,326
And Lena,
1724
01:18:03,328 --> 01:18:06,162
nobody will buy Yates' word.
1725
01:18:06,164 --> 01:18:08,664
And my only risk thereis Susie.
1726
01:18:08,666 --> 01:18:09,999
She's dumb as a post,
1727
01:18:10,001 --> 01:18:13,169
but she still can puttwo and two together.
1728
01:18:13,171 --> 01:18:15,371
And if she does...
1729
01:18:17,175 --> 01:18:21,177
I supposeI'll have to kill her...
1730
01:18:21,179 --> 01:18:22,812
just like the others.
1731
01:18:26,551 --> 01:18:28,884
Kill them all, Carl...
1732
01:18:31,522 --> 01:18:34,190
Whatever it takes.
1733
01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:38,694
Rita, it's very good of youto come on such short notice.
1734
01:18:38,696 --> 01:18:42,565
Of course, Carl, but I'mafraid I have some bad news.
1735
01:18:42,979 --> 01:18:46,180
This is clearly inadmissible,
Your Honor.
1736
01:18:46,182 --> 01:18:48,783
I understand
why you'd like to think that.
1737
01:18:48,785 --> 01:18:52,286
Walk me through the provenance
and chain of evidence.
1738
01:18:52,288 --> 01:18:54,121
How did this fall
into your hands?
1739
01:18:54,123 --> 01:18:55,956
We asked Dr. Rudnick
to come in for an interview,
1740
01:18:55,958 --> 01:18:57,892
and he gave us permission
to record it.
1741
01:18:57,894 --> 01:18:59,827
Your Honor, Dr. Rudnick
had asked for counsel.
1742
01:18:59,829 --> 01:19:01,295
And when he did,
we immediately stopped
1743
01:19:01,297 --> 01:19:02,530
questioning him
and left the room.
1744
01:19:02,532 --> 01:19:03,631
Yes, but you
left the camera on.
1745
01:19:03,633 --> 01:19:06,033
He knew that he was
being recorded.
1746
01:19:06,035 --> 01:19:07,468
We weren't interrogating him.
1747
01:19:07,470 --> 01:19:09,637
This was
a spontaneous admission.
1748
01:19:09,639 --> 01:19:10,838
Your client talks to himself.
1749
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:13,474
Not only is this inadmissible
under Miranda,
1750
01:19:13,476 --> 01:19:15,276
but it's also Brady material
1751
01:19:15,278 --> 01:19:16,844
that should have been
made available to us.
1752
01:19:16,846 --> 01:19:18,145
It was.
A copy of this video
1753
01:19:18,147 --> 01:19:20,314
has been in your possession
since day one.
1754
01:19:20,316 --> 01:19:22,249
You must have stopped watching
when we stopped questioning.
1755
01:19:22,251 --> 01:19:23,350
He's right, Mr. Buchanan.
1756
01:19:23,352 --> 01:19:25,319
If you turned this off,
it's on you.
1757
01:19:25,321 --> 01:19:26,554
This is admissible.
1758
01:19:26,556 --> 01:19:28,255
I was simply thinking out loud.
1759
01:19:28,257 --> 01:19:29,356
Carl.
1760
01:19:29,358 --> 01:19:32,426
We'll let the jury
determine that.
1761
01:19:32,428 --> 01:19:35,096
You had the recording
for the entirety of my ordeal,
1762
01:19:35,098 --> 01:19:38,766
- and you didn't know it?
- Carl.
1763
01:19:38,768 --> 01:19:40,768
Your Honor, I immediately move
for new counsel
1764
01:19:40,770 --> 01:19:42,870
on the basis
of incompetent defense.
1765
01:19:42,872 --> 01:19:44,271
That's your right.
1766
01:19:44,273 --> 01:19:45,773
I should caution you, though...
1767
01:19:45,775 --> 01:19:48,809
this material is admissible
no matter who defends you.
1768
01:19:53,650 --> 01:19:55,305
_
1769
01:19:55,340 --> 01:19:59,286
Dr. Rudnick, I understand
you'd like to change your plea.
1770
01:19:59,288 --> 01:20:00,955
Yes, Your Honor.
1771
01:20:00,957 --> 01:20:04,959
On the charge of murder in
the first degree of Susie Frain,
1772
01:20:04,961 --> 01:20:06,260
how do you plead?
1773
01:20:06,262 --> 01:20:08,462
Guilty as charged.
1774
01:20:09,866 --> 01:20:11,132
And to the outstanding charge
1775
01:20:11,134 --> 01:20:15,636
of murder in the first degree
of Rachel Groves?
1776
01:20:15,638 --> 01:20:18,239
I'm afraid
I'm guilty on that one as well.
1777
01:20:18,241 --> 01:20:20,975
Your Honor, at this time,
1778
01:20:20,977 --> 01:20:23,310
the prosecution would like
to withdraw its charge
1779
01:20:23,312 --> 01:20:25,646
of murder in the first degree
of Lena Grunwald.
1780
01:20:25,648 --> 01:20:27,648
All right, Counselors,
thank you for your time.
1781
01:20:27,650 --> 01:20:29,250
And now that justice
has been served,
1782
01:20:29,252 --> 01:20:30,951
I declare this court adjourned.
1783
01:20:37,326 --> 01:20:40,761
Wait. He gets away
with Lena's murder.
1784
01:20:40,763 --> 01:20:42,263
Well, he'll still do 25 to life
1785
01:20:42,265 --> 01:20:43,931
for the other two charges.
1786
01:20:43,933 --> 01:20:46,233
Maybe you two will be
roommates one day.
1787
01:20:47,770 --> 01:20:50,104
He did it, you know.
1788
01:20:50,106 --> 01:20:53,541
Lena... he strangled her
to death.
1789
01:20:54,777 --> 01:20:56,844
Her skull was also fractured.
1790
01:20:58,447 --> 01:21:01,282
Strangulation
was the cause of death.
1791
01:21:01,284 --> 01:21:03,551
Skull fracture
was postmortem.
1792
01:21:05,454 --> 01:21:07,955
You sound pretty sure
about that.
1793
01:21:07,957 --> 01:21:10,624
I'm just piecing it together,
1794
01:21:10,626 --> 01:21:12,960
but if I had to guess...
1795
01:21:12,962 --> 01:21:15,462
Lena was his first time.
1796
01:21:15,464 --> 01:21:17,631
Carl screwed up,
1797
01:21:17,633 --> 01:21:19,967
and he had to call someone
with more experience
1798
01:21:19,969 --> 01:21:23,370
to help him finish.
1799
01:21:24,807 --> 01:21:27,775
And how did this person help?
1800
01:21:27,777 --> 01:21:30,077
He probably advised Carl
1801
01:21:30,079 --> 01:21:33,080
to keep Lena alive
1802
01:21:33,082 --> 01:21:35,583
as long as possible.
1803
01:21:35,585 --> 01:21:39,954
Such a waste
to have her die so quickly.
1804
01:21:48,931 --> 01:21:53,133
Why are you telling
me this now?
1805
01:21:53,135 --> 01:21:56,937
Because I believe
when one life ends,
1806
01:21:56,939 --> 01:21:58,539
another begins.
1807
01:21:58,541 --> 01:22:01,609
You are bringing life
into this world
1808
01:22:01,611 --> 01:22:05,145
just as I lost my wife
and my child.
1809
01:22:06,616 --> 01:22:08,749
I feel a connection to you.
1810
01:22:11,454 --> 01:22:12,953
You'll be back.
1811
01:22:12,955 --> 01:22:16,290
And I will be here.
1812
01:22:34,410 --> 01:22:37,344
Dr. Yates.
1813
01:22:39,415 --> 01:22:41,015
Carl.
1814
01:22:42,418 --> 01:22:44,018
Might I join you?
1815
01:22:47,089 --> 01:22:48,255
I suppose so.
1816
01:22:53,930 --> 01:22:55,596
It's been a while.
1817
01:22:55,598 --> 01:22:56,964
Yes.
1818
01:22:59,435 --> 01:23:02,369
We have a lot to catch up on.
1819
01:23:06,643 --> 01:23:09,066
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