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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:13,747 --> 00:00:16,617 (ominous music) 2 00:00:20,587 --> 00:00:23,590 (people chattering) 3 00:00:29,763 --> 00:00:31,364 ? Russians have learned that there 4 00:00:31,431 --> 00:00:34,701 is an asymmetry in conventional warfare. 5 00:00:34,768 --> 00:00:36,503 The Russian military does not match 6 00:00:36,570 --> 00:00:38,605 that of the United States by far. http://worldmkv.com/ 7 00:00:38,672 --> 00:00:41,642 How do you then balance out the asymmetry? 8 00:00:42,843 --> 00:00:45,779 One way to do that is to invest in much cheaper measures. 9 00:00:45,846 --> 00:00:48,615 These nonconventional active measures 10 00:00:48,682 --> 00:00:51,417 to try to weaken western institutions, 11 00:00:51,484 --> 00:00:55,321 undermine western democracies versus sending in the tanks. 12 00:01:00,426 --> 00:01:05,165 ? Putin realizes that if we're divided as a nation 13 00:01:05,231 --> 00:01:10,236 we cannot protect ourselves from threats within and without. 14 00:01:11,371 --> 00:01:12,673 ? From the Russian point of view, 15 00:01:12,739 --> 00:01:15,576 political warfare is just part of the art of war. 16 00:01:15,642 --> 00:01:17,644 ? What they're driving at over the longer term 17 00:01:17,711 --> 00:01:20,480 is to watch democracy crumble from the inside out. 18 00:01:31,592 --> 00:01:33,226 ? I'm sitting with him at dinner. 19 00:01:33,293 --> 00:01:36,863 I told him I'd been at the memorial 20 00:01:36,930 --> 00:01:38,632 of the siege of Leningrad. 21 00:01:38,699 --> 00:01:40,400 He said I'll tell you a story. 22 00:01:40,466 --> 00:01:42,603 He said my father was one of those people 23 00:01:42,669 --> 00:01:44,270 who was on the front lines. 24 00:01:44,337 --> 00:01:47,641 And had gotten 24 hours off to go home. 25 00:01:47,708 --> 00:01:49,576 As he was walking down the street to his apartment, 26 00:01:49,643 --> 00:01:53,413 he saw a big pile of bodies which was not at all uncommon. 27 00:01:53,479 --> 00:01:56,249 He saw a leg sticking out and a shoe on the foot 28 00:01:56,316 --> 00:01:58,885 and he recognized that as being his wife. 29 00:02:00,654 --> 00:02:02,188 So he stopped and he screamed 30 00:02:02,255 --> 00:02:03,289 and said, well, that's my wife. 31 00:02:03,356 --> 00:02:03,924 That's my wife. 32 00:02:03,990 --> 00:02:05,325 I want my wife. 33 00:02:05,391 --> 00:02:07,728 The body collectors told him to leave and he kept demanding. 34 00:02:07,794 --> 00:02:10,764 At this point he's pulling his wife from under the pile. 35 00:02:10,831 --> 00:02:12,699 He took her to their apartment 36 00:02:12,766 --> 00:02:14,167 and nursed her back to health. 37 00:02:14,234 --> 00:02:17,638 And then after the war she gave birth to Vladimir Putin. 38 00:02:22,475 --> 00:02:25,411 Putin sees himself as literally pulling the body 39 00:02:25,478 --> 00:02:29,282 of Russia out of the pile, the dust bin of history. 40 00:02:29,349 --> 00:02:30,684 You know, we are going to revive you. 41 00:02:30,751 --> 00:02:31,552 You are not dead. 42 00:02:31,618 --> 00:02:33,286 And I will take care of you. 43 00:02:33,353 --> 00:02:35,856 I mean, that is the mindset. 44 00:02:35,922 --> 00:02:39,660 ? I think his ambitions always were to be the president 45 00:02:39,726 --> 00:02:42,763 and then gather all the instruments of power 46 00:02:42,829 --> 00:02:44,898 into the presidency. 47 00:02:44,965 --> 00:02:49,570 ? His devotion to reasserting Russia's greatness 48 00:02:49,636 --> 00:02:51,572 is certainly in his self?interest 49 00:02:51,638 --> 00:02:53,774 because he wants to be the czar. 50 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,577 He wants to be the richest man in the world 51 00:02:56,643 --> 00:02:58,812 and he wants to settle scores. 52 00:03:00,581 --> 00:03:03,584 ? He made his way up through the KGB. 53 00:03:03,650 --> 00:03:04,851 ? His role in the KGB 54 00:03:04,918 --> 00:03:08,822 was to support Russian intelligence officers 55 00:03:08,889 --> 00:03:10,591 living under assumed identities 56 00:03:10,657 --> 00:03:12,793 under deep cover inside the United States 57 00:03:12,859 --> 00:03:14,761 and developing active measures 58 00:03:14,828 --> 00:03:17,664 to impact the policies of the United States. 59 00:03:17,731 --> 00:03:19,800 ? The KGB was power. 60 00:03:19,866 --> 00:03:22,503 If you said that you were with the KGB, doors were open. 61 00:03:22,569 --> 00:03:23,837 People would stand aside. 62 00:03:25,706 --> 00:03:27,941 ? In 1991 when the Soviet Union collapsed, 63 00:03:28,008 --> 00:03:30,310 every republic that emerged from the debris 64 00:03:30,376 --> 00:03:32,045 of the Soviet Union agreed at the time 65 00:03:32,112 --> 00:03:35,982 to recognize the republics in their then existing borders. 66 00:03:39,786 --> 00:03:43,757 ? Putin, like many Russians, feels that the dissolution, 67 00:03:43,824 --> 00:03:45,826 the dissolving of the Soviet Union 68 00:03:45,892 --> 00:03:49,329 was a horrific thing because it made the Russian people 69 00:03:49,395 --> 00:03:51,665 and Russia itself smaller. 70 00:03:51,732 --> 00:03:53,767 And the Americans are celebrating all of this. 71 00:03:53,834 --> 00:03:57,738 (speaking in foreign language) 72 00:04:06,713 --> 00:04:08,915 ? I think he's dedicated to building it back up. 73 00:04:09,750 --> 00:04:13,019 (downcast piano music) 74 00:04:20,794 --> 00:04:22,929 ? The first time I met him in the spring of 1991, 75 00:04:22,996 --> 00:04:25,832 he was the deputy mayor of St. Petersburg 76 00:04:25,899 --> 00:04:29,570 working for the mayor whose name was Anatoly Sobchak. 77 00:04:30,904 --> 00:04:34,708 Sobchak was this charismatic western leaning guy 78 00:04:34,775 --> 00:04:37,110 allied with Boris Yeltsin. 79 00:04:37,177 --> 00:04:40,547 His deputy was the exact opposite of that. 80 00:04:40,614 --> 00:04:42,783 Non?descript, grave bureaucrat. 81 00:04:42,849 --> 00:04:44,117 A very soft spoken. 82 00:04:45,986 --> 00:04:49,422 Had you asked me back then to name a thousand people 83 00:04:49,489 --> 00:04:50,924 that might be the next president of Russia 84 00:04:50,991 --> 00:04:52,726 he would not have made my list. 85 00:04:54,795 --> 00:04:56,763 ? He supported Mayor Sobchak 86 00:04:56,830 --> 00:05:00,767 but he was also organizing this incredible network 87 00:05:00,834 --> 00:05:05,839 of former KGB foreign economic interest and local interest. 88 00:05:06,840 --> 00:05:08,709 ? In the 1990's St. Petersburg was known 89 00:05:08,775 --> 00:05:10,577 for organized crime and corruption. 90 00:05:12,813 --> 00:05:14,815 State institutions were partnering 91 00:05:14,881 --> 00:05:16,683 with Kremlin organizations to rip off 92 00:05:16,750 --> 00:05:18,952 as much as they could as fast as they could. 93 00:05:19,986 --> 00:05:21,788 ? Putin was a pretty good fixer. 94 00:05:21,855 --> 00:05:23,056 He could make stuff happen. 95 00:05:23,123 --> 00:05:24,925 He knew how to work the system. 96 00:05:26,492 --> 00:05:28,929 ? [Heather] Mr. Putin was able as deputy mayor 97 00:05:28,995 --> 00:05:32,766 to be the focal point of all of these different networks 98 00:05:32,833 --> 00:05:34,034 as they came together. 99 00:05:34,901 --> 00:05:37,938 ? He was made FSB director. 100 00:05:38,905 --> 00:05:41,542 The FSB is responsible for internal spying. 101 00:05:41,608 --> 00:05:42,776 These are the guys who have the most funding, 102 00:05:42,843 --> 00:05:44,144 the most resources. 103 00:05:44,210 --> 00:05:47,013 ? He learned which served him in good stead 104 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,082 how to maneuver politically. 105 00:05:55,622 --> 00:05:56,990 ? That became his primary goal. 106 00:05:57,057 --> 00:05:57,858 Power. 107 00:05:57,924 --> 00:06:00,794 The FSB was simply a ladder. 108 00:06:00,861 --> 00:06:04,464 ? Almost immediately after the breakup of the Soviet Union, 109 00:06:04,531 --> 00:06:06,600 these oligarchs were able to take over 110 00:06:06,667 --> 00:06:09,770 state owned enterprises at bargain basement prices. 111 00:06:09,836 --> 00:06:12,906 It turned some of these individuals into multi?millionaires 112 00:06:12,973 --> 00:06:15,709 or even billionaires almost overnight. 113 00:06:15,776 --> 00:06:16,943 ? Under Yeltsin, the oligarchs 114 00:06:17,010 --> 00:06:19,646 became very powerful and very independent. 115 00:06:19,713 --> 00:06:21,782 And the power of the state was crumbling. 116 00:06:23,784 --> 00:06:25,752 The end of the Yeltsin years he obtained 117 00:06:25,819 --> 00:06:28,989 almost sort of a buffoonish type of personality. 118 00:06:29,055 --> 00:06:29,856 You know, a drunk. 119 00:06:29,923 --> 00:06:31,558 A little bit out of control. 120 00:06:34,027 --> 00:06:36,830 ? Yeltsin was nervous and he chose to go with a guy 121 00:06:36,897 --> 00:06:40,466 that he thought would protect his family and their assets. 122 00:06:41,635 --> 00:06:44,070 That's, I think, the sole purpose why Putin 123 00:06:44,137 --> 00:06:46,472 was selected to then run for president. 124 00:06:49,710 --> 00:06:53,013 ? Followed by the bombings of the apartment houses. 125 00:06:54,648 --> 00:06:58,018 ? There were a series of terrorist attacks in 1999. 126 00:06:58,084 --> 00:07:00,921 (somber piano music) 127 00:07:00,987 --> 00:07:02,856 They found evidence of the FSB 128 00:07:02,923 --> 00:07:05,626 having been there and set that all up. 129 00:07:05,692 --> 00:07:08,061 ? I know what has been alleged. 130 00:07:08,128 --> 00:07:10,864 I find the evidence compelling and I know 131 00:07:10,931 --> 00:07:13,099 those terrorist attacks helped Vladimir Putin 132 00:07:13,166 --> 00:07:14,801 win the election. 133 00:07:16,102 --> 00:07:18,271 I'm not ready to believe yet 134 00:07:18,338 --> 00:07:21,007 and maybe that's just my idealism getting in the way 135 00:07:21,074 --> 00:07:24,144 of my analytic side that the Russian government 136 00:07:24,210 --> 00:07:27,781 would kill its own civilians to elect Putin president. 137 00:07:31,284 --> 00:07:33,987 ? The apartment bombings were KGB operations 138 00:07:34,054 --> 00:07:37,290 using a type of explosive that's only made 139 00:07:37,357 --> 00:07:39,826 in a KGB facility. 140 00:07:40,994 --> 00:07:42,128 ? Oh, sure. 141 00:07:42,195 --> 00:07:44,197 It was very clever and the Russian people 142 00:07:44,264 --> 00:07:45,966 began to look for a leader. 143 00:07:46,032 --> 00:07:47,968 It's not the first time in history. 144 00:07:48,034 --> 00:07:49,736 You can compare it in some degree 145 00:07:49,803 --> 00:07:52,539 to the 1930's and the rise of Adolph Hitler. 146 00:08:20,834 --> 00:08:23,069 ? With respect to democracy, I think it's pretty clear 147 00:08:23,136 --> 00:08:26,139 from the very get go he feared independent actors. 148 00:08:26,206 --> 00:08:29,142 (speaking in foreign language) 149 00:08:29,209 --> 00:08:31,177 ? Putin started forcing the independent media 150 00:08:31,244 --> 00:08:33,914 to knuckle under, putting in state control, 151 00:08:33,980 --> 00:08:35,982 turning it into propaganda outfits. 152 00:08:38,652 --> 00:08:42,723 ? Started arresting people who had different points of view. 153 00:08:42,789 --> 00:08:44,658 (men yelling) 154 00:08:44,725 --> 00:08:48,194 ? Then he starts going after independent journalists. 155 00:08:48,261 --> 00:08:50,030 They start ending up dead. 156 00:08:50,096 --> 00:08:51,264 Assassinated. 157 00:08:51,331 --> 00:08:54,134 ? The most prominent journalist in Russia, 158 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:58,539 Anna Politkovskaya was murdered on Putin's birthday. 159 00:09:02,142 --> 00:09:05,045 ? Putin brought the oligarchs to heel. 160 00:09:20,126 --> 00:09:22,195 ? A number of them were forced to leave the country 161 00:09:22,262 --> 00:09:25,098 Some were killed in mysterious fashions. 162 00:09:25,165 --> 00:09:28,301 Those who remained are basically lapdogs of his. 163 00:09:37,778 --> 00:09:38,845 ? Putin was letting everyone know 164 00:09:38,912 --> 00:09:40,647 that this period of everybody getting to do 165 00:09:40,714 --> 00:09:42,182 their own thing was very much over. 166 00:09:42,248 --> 00:09:45,652 ? And then he brought his most trusted friends 167 00:09:45,719 --> 00:09:47,954 and confidantes from the intelligence services 168 00:09:48,021 --> 00:09:52,292 into the key positions, controlling all those businesses. 169 00:09:53,459 --> 00:09:56,897 ? Vladimir Putin and his oligarchs used money, 170 00:09:56,963 --> 00:09:59,165 essentially stolen from the Russian people. 171 00:09:59,232 --> 00:10:01,067 ? If you're one of these big kleptocrats, 172 00:10:01,134 --> 00:10:05,205 getting your stolen proceeds into a rule of law system 173 00:10:05,271 --> 00:10:07,040 is one of your highest priorities. 174 00:10:07,107 --> 00:10:10,376 ? Once that money is laundered, they have access 175 00:10:10,443 --> 00:10:12,979 to western banks and they can do whatever they want. 176 00:10:13,046 --> 00:10:18,051 ? Semion Mogilevich was the first big organized crime figure 177 00:10:19,252 --> 00:10:23,156 in Russia who figured out how to launder massive amounts 178 00:10:23,223 --> 00:10:25,692 out of Russia and the former Soviet Union. 179 00:10:25,759 --> 00:10:28,161 ? Semion Mogilevich is worth about 10 billion dollars 180 00:10:28,228 --> 00:10:30,330 according to FBI reports. 181 00:10:30,396 --> 00:10:32,265 He's considered the money laundering genius. 182 00:10:32,332 --> 00:10:34,300 He's sometimes called the brainy don 183 00:10:34,367 --> 00:10:37,303 'cause he has a economics degree. 184 00:10:37,370 --> 00:10:40,006 ? [Scott] The most important of the Russian crime bosses. 185 00:10:40,073 --> 00:10:42,943 The man who was for years on the 10 Most Wanted list 186 00:10:43,009 --> 00:10:44,344 in the United States. 187 00:10:44,410 --> 00:10:47,313 ? [Jonathan] He still lives happily in Moscow today. 188 00:10:48,982 --> 00:10:51,117 ? [Reporter] In Russia he still gets the VIP treatment 189 00:10:51,184 --> 00:10:53,720 and is rarely without a bodyguard who chauffeurs him 190 00:10:53,787 --> 00:10:58,224 and his 200,000 pound armor plated bomb proof limousine. 191 00:10:59,192 --> 00:11:00,827 ? [Reporter] Why did you suss out companies 192 00:11:00,894 --> 00:11:02,028 in the Channel Islands? 193 00:11:03,396 --> 00:11:06,166 ? The problem was that I didn't know any other way. 194 00:11:06,232 --> 00:11:08,201 Well, they taught us geography at school. 195 00:11:08,268 --> 00:11:09,202 I was sick that day. 196 00:11:10,871 --> 00:11:14,007 ? The Russian mafia is an adjunct of the Russian government. 197 00:11:14,074 --> 00:11:16,042 ? I've described it as going from organized crime 198 00:11:16,109 --> 00:11:19,379 under the Soviets to disorganized crime 199 00:11:19,445 --> 00:11:23,149 under Yeltsin to organized crime again under Putin. 200 00:11:23,216 --> 00:11:27,220 ? His networks recycle back to Mr. Putin's inner circle 201 00:11:27,287 --> 00:11:31,491 and they continue to help maintain Mr. Putin's power. 202 00:11:31,558 --> 00:11:35,061 ? To the point where today Putin may well be 203 00:11:35,128 --> 00:11:37,197 the wealthiest man on the face of the planet. 204 00:11:45,338 --> 00:11:47,874 ? Yeah. (laughs) 205 00:11:47,941 --> 00:11:48,742 Yeah. 206 00:11:50,176 --> 00:11:52,278 Everything I know that's interesting I can't tell you. 207 00:11:53,947 --> 00:11:57,250 Now let me try to think of a way to go at 30,000 feet. 208 00:12:03,323 --> 00:12:04,791 Yeah, I know where you're going with this 209 00:12:04,858 --> 00:12:07,961 'cause I know we're gonna talk about Trump in a few minutes. 210 00:12:08,028 --> 00:12:11,297 (upbeat electro music) 211 00:12:21,542 --> 00:12:24,578 ? In the 70's Donald Trump is a scion 212 00:12:24,645 --> 00:12:28,114 of one of the biggest landowners along the east coast. 213 00:12:34,087 --> 00:12:35,188 ? He played monopoly. 214 00:12:35,255 --> 00:12:36,557 Yes, indeed. 215 00:12:36,623 --> 00:12:40,326 More than monopoly, he played with building blocks. 216 00:12:40,393 --> 00:12:42,863 Always with building blocks. 217 00:12:42,929 --> 00:12:46,266 ? He has huge ambitions, huge ego as we know. 218 00:12:46,332 --> 00:12:49,335 ? Because not everybody is meant to be a business person. 219 00:12:49,402 --> 00:12:50,236 They'll ruin their lives. 220 00:12:50,303 --> 00:12:51,738 I mean they'll go and they'll, 221 00:12:51,805 --> 00:12:54,274 they'll put up their house and they'll mortgage their cars 222 00:12:54,340 --> 00:12:55,976 and everything else they own. 223 00:12:56,042 --> 00:12:58,545 ? And he is starting to move into Manhattan. 224 00:13:00,914 --> 00:13:03,950 ? Trump Tower was structured in a way 225 00:13:04,017 --> 00:13:07,353 that made it a money laundering paradox. 226 00:13:07,420 --> 00:13:10,290 ? [Nina] Trump Tower became one of the first buildings 227 00:13:10,356 --> 00:13:15,361 in New York where Shell companies could buy and sell condos 228 00:13:16,597 --> 00:13:19,032 without identifying yourself. 229 00:13:21,434 --> 00:13:24,437 ? If you go back to the 80's, Senator Henry Scoop Jackson 230 00:13:24,505 --> 00:13:27,273 got a bill through Congress allowing the immigration 231 00:13:27,340 --> 00:13:29,442 of Soviet Jews into the United States 232 00:13:29,510 --> 00:13:32,345 at a time when immigration had been highly restrictive. 233 00:13:32,412 --> 00:13:34,581 ? We'll honor the right of a person 234 00:13:34,648 --> 00:13:35,982 to leave a country freely 235 00:13:36,049 --> 00:13:39,285 and return freely just as clear as anything can be. 236 00:13:39,352 --> 00:13:41,254 ? [Craig] The Russians saw it as an opportunity 237 00:13:41,321 --> 00:13:43,423 to open their jails. 238 00:13:43,489 --> 00:13:47,093 That's when you see members of Russian organized crime 239 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,896 come to the United States for the very, very first time 240 00:13:49,963 --> 00:13:51,431 and end up in Brighton Beach. 241 00:13:54,267 --> 00:13:56,369 ? There were certain techniques 242 00:13:56,436 --> 00:13:58,939 for money management and money movement 243 00:13:59,005 --> 00:14:01,341 that were prized above others. 244 00:14:02,643 --> 00:14:06,012 And these involved real estate. 245 00:14:06,079 --> 00:14:09,349 ? It started off simply as money laundering pure and simple 246 00:14:09,415 --> 00:14:12,686 and you had in 1984 for example David Bogatin, 247 00:14:12,753 --> 00:14:15,956 who was a Russian mobster, met with Trump. 248 00:14:16,022 --> 00:14:19,125 Trump Tower had just opened the previous year and Bogatin, 249 00:14:19,192 --> 00:14:21,962 who had no legal way of making that money, 250 00:14:22,028 --> 00:14:24,430 sat down with Trump and bought five condos 251 00:14:24,497 --> 00:14:25,298 and the state attorney general ruled 252 00:14:25,365 --> 00:14:27,233 that that was money laundering. 253 00:14:28,368 --> 00:14:31,404 Vyacheslav Ivankov, who was very close 254 00:14:31,471 --> 00:14:35,075 to the great mastermind of organized crime, 255 00:14:35,141 --> 00:14:38,444 Semion Mogilevich, and he was sent to the United States 256 00:14:38,512 --> 00:14:41,447 to oversee the rise of the Brighton Beach mafia. 257 00:14:41,515 --> 00:14:44,284 And when the feds were looking for him they looked all over 258 00:14:44,350 --> 00:14:45,952 and they couldn't find him anywhere in Brooklyn. 259 00:14:46,019 --> 00:14:47,921 Instead, he was living in Trump Tower. 260 00:14:51,424 --> 00:14:54,427 ? Donald Trump marries Ivana. 261 00:14:54,494 --> 00:14:59,032 The Czech Secret Police takes note of this. 262 00:14:59,099 --> 00:15:02,035 The intelligence that they gathered was that Donald Trump 263 00:15:02,102 --> 00:15:05,105 was being pressured, not clear by whom, 264 00:15:05,171 --> 00:15:08,609 to run for president as early as 1988. 265 00:15:08,675 --> 00:15:11,512 They thought that it would be good for Czechoslovakia 266 00:15:11,578 --> 00:15:15,181 if this husband of a Czech citizen became president 267 00:15:15,248 --> 00:15:16,316 of the United States. 268 00:15:17,450 --> 00:15:20,253 After his successes in New York City 269 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,690 he got into the Atlantic city casino business. 270 00:15:27,728 --> 00:15:30,096 He goes big. 271 00:15:30,163 --> 00:15:31,998 Builds the Trump Taj Majal. 272 00:15:32,065 --> 00:15:34,267 ? Which will be the largest hotel casino in the world 273 00:15:34,334 --> 00:15:36,436 and I think it's gonna be a tremendous success. 274 00:15:36,503 --> 00:15:40,574 ? That turns out to be his undoing. 275 00:15:42,475 --> 00:15:45,045 ? In a town where for the last 10 years 276 00:15:45,111 --> 00:15:47,648 no casino with 60,000 squared foot 277 00:15:47,714 --> 00:15:49,115 has ever been fully utilized. 278 00:15:49,182 --> 00:15:53,520 On what basis would someone build one with 120,000 feet? 279 00:15:54,621 --> 00:15:56,356 He was destined to fail. 280 00:15:59,793 --> 00:16:02,162 ? Trump Casino was hit hard for having 281 00:16:02,228 --> 00:16:06,132 violated U. S. federal anti?money laundering regulations. 282 00:16:07,500 --> 00:16:10,470 It suggests a culture of willful disregard of the law. 283 00:16:11,572 --> 00:16:14,407 ? [Nina] He basically unravels financially. 284 00:16:14,474 --> 00:16:17,277 He also was unraveling personally at this same time. 285 00:16:17,343 --> 00:16:18,679 His marriage was falling apart. 286 00:16:20,180 --> 00:16:21,515 ? [Jonathan] By that point he had filed, 287 00:16:21,582 --> 00:16:23,449 I believe it was six bankruptcies. 288 00:16:23,517 --> 00:16:25,586 He had no way to move forward professionally. 289 00:16:25,652 --> 00:16:27,487 He couldn't get a bank loan anywhere. 290 00:16:27,554 --> 00:16:29,523 ? There is a homeless person sitting, 291 00:16:30,691 --> 00:16:32,826 sitting right outside of Trump Tower. 292 00:16:32,893 --> 00:16:36,429 I remember my father pointing to him and saying, you know, 293 00:16:36,496 --> 00:16:38,565 that guy has eight billion dollars more than me 294 00:16:38,632 --> 00:16:41,635 because he was in such extreme debt at that point, you know. 295 00:16:43,670 --> 00:16:47,508 ? The Russians have a particular type of mark 296 00:16:47,574 --> 00:16:48,575 whom they go after. 297 00:16:49,943 --> 00:16:52,713 They go after somebody who has business resources, 298 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,350 perhaps some shady morals so that they're amenable 299 00:16:57,417 --> 00:16:58,752 to the bribery. 300 00:17:00,554 --> 00:17:03,389 Or perhaps are in a difficult financial situation. 301 00:17:03,456 --> 00:17:07,093 And either has political connections or aspirations. 302 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,763 I've just described Donald Trump. 303 00:17:09,830 --> 00:17:14,134 He was the perfect mark for the Russians. 304 00:17:15,669 --> 00:17:16,870 ? The Russians saved him. 305 00:17:16,937 --> 00:17:18,338 They rescued him. 306 00:17:18,404 --> 00:17:21,542 He would not have gotten back in business without them. 307 00:17:21,608 --> 00:17:24,177 I think it's safe to say he couldn't have run for president 308 00:17:24,244 --> 00:17:25,311 if he had just been a guy 309 00:17:25,378 --> 00:17:27,213 who was four billion dollars in debt. 310 00:17:29,750 --> 00:17:32,619 When the Russian mafia does something 311 00:17:32,686 --> 00:17:36,557 it's with Putin's permission and it's serving his interests. 312 00:17:36,623 --> 00:17:38,625 ? Have you ever knowingly done business 313 00:17:38,692 --> 00:17:41,562 with what I like to call organized crime? 314 00:17:41,628 --> 00:17:43,530 (audience laughing) 315 00:17:43,597 --> 00:17:44,798 Have they ever stopped by and?? 316 00:17:44,865 --> 00:17:47,167 ? Well, I really tried to stay away from them 317 00:17:47,233 --> 00:17:48,434 as much as possible. ? Right. 318 00:17:48,502 --> 00:17:50,436 ? Although I must say I have met on occasion 319 00:17:50,504 --> 00:17:51,572 a few of those people. 320 00:17:51,638 --> 00:17:54,608 They happen to be very nice people. 321 00:17:54,675 --> 00:17:56,242 You just don't want to owe them money. 322 00:17:56,309 --> 00:17:58,612 ? Yeah, I understand. ? Don't owe them money. 323 00:18:01,281 --> 00:18:04,685 ? Simeon Mogelivich, he made a decision to make the move 324 00:18:04,751 --> 00:18:09,389 on Trump after studying Trump's 2004 bankruptcy filings. 325 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,897 Noticing that Trump had lost his credit lines. 326 00:18:16,963 --> 00:18:20,601 They felt he would not be in the position to say no. 327 00:18:20,667 --> 00:18:24,270 ? The Russian real estate firm Bayrock 328 00:18:24,337 --> 00:18:26,640 started leasing space in Trump Tower. 329 00:18:27,808 --> 00:18:30,711 Putin needs to keep track of his oligarchs 330 00:18:30,777 --> 00:18:34,915 and one way of keeping tabs is knowing where their money is. 331 00:18:34,981 --> 00:18:37,518 Bayrock may well have been a way of doing that. 332 00:18:38,752 --> 00:18:41,822 To me that's a turning point because what we have here 333 00:18:41,888 --> 00:18:45,358 is a very serious intelligence operation 334 00:18:45,425 --> 00:18:47,561 and it is in the belly of the beast. 335 00:18:47,628 --> 00:18:48,829 It is in the home of the man 336 00:18:48,895 --> 00:18:51,532 who becomes president of the United States. 337 00:18:51,598 --> 00:18:54,300 And it was operating there for many, many years. 338 00:18:54,367 --> 00:18:57,538 ? One of the key people putting it together, Felix Sater. 339 00:18:57,604 --> 00:19:00,340 ? A lieutenant in the Mogilevich crime family. 340 00:19:00,406 --> 00:19:03,910 Very connected into the nexus 341 00:19:03,977 --> 00:19:06,680 between the Russian criminal organizations 342 00:19:06,747 --> 00:19:10,751 and the Russian national security organizations. 343 00:19:10,817 --> 00:19:14,420 ? He became managing director of Bayrock. 344 00:19:14,487 --> 00:19:16,657 He himself had been convicted of two felonies. 345 00:19:16,723 --> 00:19:19,860 ? Slashing a guy's face at a bar. 346 00:19:19,926 --> 00:19:23,296 ? Another was a pump and dump stock scheme. 347 00:19:23,363 --> 00:19:25,999 But he ended up cooperating with the feds 348 00:19:26,066 --> 00:19:28,835 and he started providing information 349 00:19:28,902 --> 00:19:32,405 on sales of weapons to Al?Qaeda. 350 00:19:32,472 --> 00:19:34,608 Mogilevich, according to FBI reports, 351 00:19:34,675 --> 00:19:36,376 was selling weapons to Al?Qaeda. 352 00:19:37,711 --> 00:19:39,813 That raised very interesting questions 353 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,883 'cause I don't think Felix Sater would betray Mogilevich. 354 00:19:44,551 --> 00:19:46,787 He famously threatened an investor 355 00:19:46,853 --> 00:19:48,922 with electrocuting his testicles. 356 00:19:51,324 --> 00:19:53,827 Trump worked with Sater for many, many years 357 00:19:53,894 --> 00:19:56,462 after it was revealed that he was a criminal. 358 00:19:56,530 --> 00:19:58,699 He continued to work for Trump and in fact 359 00:19:58,765 --> 00:20:01,802 had a business card saying that he was a senior advisor 360 00:20:01,868 --> 00:20:03,637 to the Trump organization. 361 00:20:03,704 --> 00:20:05,038 ? [Michael] There's multiple photographs 362 00:20:05,105 --> 00:20:06,507 of the two of them together. 363 00:20:06,573 --> 00:20:08,909 He had an office in Trump tower. 364 00:20:08,975 --> 00:20:11,778 Trump was the public face of Bayrock. 365 00:20:11,845 --> 00:20:15,682 ? And yet when he was placed under oath in a deposition 366 00:20:15,749 --> 00:20:18,952 and confronted about Sater, he simply says, uh. 367 00:20:19,019 --> 00:20:20,787 ? If he was sitting in a the room right now, 368 00:20:20,854 --> 00:20:23,557 I really wouldn't know what he looked like. 369 00:20:25,391 --> 00:20:27,594 ? [Craig] Trump actually personally asks Sater 370 00:20:27,661 --> 00:20:32,298 to escort his two children, Ivanka and Donald Trump, Jr., 371 00:20:32,365 --> 00:20:35,401 on a trip to Moscow and showed them around the town. 372 00:20:37,804 --> 00:20:40,006 ? He seems to be playing a consistent role 373 00:20:40,073 --> 00:20:43,744 in assisting the Trump's and tapping Russians 374 00:20:43,810 --> 00:20:46,613 or let's say post?Soviet money 375 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,015 for developing condominium units. 376 00:20:49,082 --> 00:20:52,052 No co?op board has to review whoever is buying. 377 00:20:52,118 --> 00:20:54,420 It's safer than putting it in the bank. 378 00:20:54,487 --> 00:20:57,724 (upbeat electro music) 379 00:20:58,925 --> 00:21:00,761 ? The Sunny Isles development is the Florida development 380 00:21:00,827 --> 00:21:03,864 that the Trumps own that has been heavily populated 381 00:21:03,930 --> 00:21:07,668 by Russians who want to launder their money. 382 00:21:07,734 --> 00:21:09,903 ? [Craig] At least a third of the condos 383 00:21:09,970 --> 00:21:12,939 in Sunny isles, Florida have been sold to Russia. 384 00:21:17,143 --> 00:21:20,514 ? Trump's Soho is one of the promoters of the project. 385 00:21:20,581 --> 00:21:22,883 Alexsandr Mashkevich has been described 386 00:21:22,949 --> 00:21:24,851 as Mogelivich's banker. 387 00:21:27,721 --> 00:21:30,891 The Trump Tower project in Baku is located 388 00:21:30,957 --> 00:21:35,562 in the middle of a post?industrial sledge pool. 389 00:21:35,629 --> 00:21:38,331 It's just sort of a joke that they were building this. 390 00:21:41,668 --> 00:21:42,736 ? Trump World Tower. 391 00:21:42,803 --> 00:21:44,170 I started looking at who bought into 392 00:21:44,237 --> 00:21:47,040 and the very first name I came across that was Russian 393 00:21:47,107 --> 00:21:48,274 was that of Eduard Nektalov. 394 00:21:48,341 --> 00:21:51,512 He had been indicted for money laundering. 395 00:21:51,578 --> 00:21:53,614 He turned state's evidence and was going 396 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,649 to cooperate with the feds. 397 00:21:55,716 --> 00:21:57,483 He was murdered the next day. 398 00:21:59,853 --> 00:22:01,622 ? The Toronto Tower. 399 00:22:01,688 --> 00:22:03,857 The source of funding was the Vensheconobank, 400 00:22:05,892 --> 00:22:10,764 the two twin cash management tools of the Kremlin. 401 00:22:13,066 --> 00:22:15,936 They go out and become involved in projects 402 00:22:16,002 --> 00:22:19,506 usually because one man, Vladimir Putin, 403 00:22:19,573 --> 00:22:21,007 tells them to do so. 404 00:22:21,074 --> 00:22:24,778 That would link this project straight back to the Kremlin. 405 00:22:27,213 --> 00:22:29,049 ? I think this is the tip of the iceberg. 406 00:22:29,115 --> 00:22:33,119 There's been 1.3 trillion dollars in flight capital 407 00:22:33,186 --> 00:22:35,021 since Putin's become president. 408 00:22:36,256 --> 00:22:39,459 There are over 30 Trump Towers all over the world. 409 00:22:39,526 --> 00:22:41,928 That means there are several thousand units. 410 00:22:41,995 --> 00:22:45,065 So many condos that journalists like me have been unable 411 00:22:45,131 --> 00:22:48,068 to investigate because they are in Shell companies. 412 00:22:48,134 --> 00:22:50,971 ? Shell corporations where law enforcement 413 00:22:51,037 --> 00:22:52,906 and the public and the press can go and see 414 00:22:52,973 --> 00:22:54,107 what the name of the corporation is 415 00:22:54,174 --> 00:22:56,910 but they can't find out who's really behind it. 416 00:22:56,977 --> 00:22:57,778 What's really going on. 417 00:22:57,844 --> 00:22:59,112 Who's pulling the strings here. 418 00:22:59,179 --> 00:23:01,748 ? So a 500 million dollar condo can change hands 419 00:23:01,815 --> 00:23:02,916 three or four times a year 420 00:23:02,983 --> 00:23:05,118 and you've laundered 20 million dollars or so. 421 00:23:06,887 --> 00:23:08,555 We want to follow the money. 422 00:23:08,622 --> 00:23:10,924 It's clear to me that a huge amount of it 423 00:23:10,991 --> 00:23:14,861 comes from the Ukraine Russian energy trade. 424 00:23:14,928 --> 00:23:16,863 ? Vladimir Putin particularly 425 00:23:16,930 --> 00:23:19,666 has a strong feeling about Ukraine. 426 00:23:19,733 --> 00:23:23,537 Ukraine was part of Russia for many, many years. 427 00:23:23,604 --> 00:23:26,172 He feels that needs to be restored. 428 00:23:29,009 --> 00:23:30,877 ? Putin has worked to undermine 429 00:23:30,944 --> 00:23:33,046 democracies across the globe. 430 00:23:34,314 --> 00:23:37,250 ? [Woman] You had a couple of people running for president. 431 00:23:37,317 --> 00:23:40,821 ? Viktor Yanukovich who appeared to be 432 00:23:40,887 --> 00:23:43,824 more interested in keeping Ukraine aligned with Russia. 433 00:23:43,890 --> 00:23:46,159 Significant amounts of money coming from Russia 434 00:23:46,226 --> 00:23:48,695 into the Yanukovich campaign. 435 00:23:48,762 --> 00:23:52,232 ? His competitor on the other side, Yuschenko, 436 00:23:52,298 --> 00:23:54,935 was a Ukrainian politician. 437 00:23:55,001 --> 00:23:59,773 A reputation of being clean and fair and pro?western. 438 00:24:00,974 --> 00:24:03,910 Yulia Tymoshenko entered the Yushenko campaign. 439 00:24:03,977 --> 00:24:05,712 She was a politician. 440 00:24:05,779 --> 00:24:07,581 ? Tymoshenko, in my experience, 441 00:24:07,648 --> 00:24:09,783 she was by the far the most effective minister 442 00:24:09,850 --> 00:24:11,151 in the Ukrainian cabinet. 443 00:24:11,217 --> 00:24:14,220 ? Well, I was working for Senator McCain in 2004. 444 00:24:14,287 --> 00:24:15,556 And we visited. 445 00:24:15,622 --> 00:24:17,858 We met with Yuschenko. 446 00:24:17,924 --> 00:24:20,894 They just said, I'm afraid they're gonna try to kill him. 447 00:24:20,961 --> 00:24:22,128 Within a matter of months 448 00:24:22,195 --> 00:24:24,531 he had been poisoned and almost was killed. 449 00:24:25,599 --> 00:24:27,200 ? A disfiguring poisoning. 450 00:24:27,267 --> 00:24:28,935 It destroyed his looks. 451 00:24:29,002 --> 00:24:31,071 Scarred his face. 452 00:24:31,137 --> 00:24:35,542 ? Quite convinced it was a KGB operation. 453 00:24:35,609 --> 00:24:38,679 ? He was off the campaign trail for about four weeks. 454 00:24:38,745 --> 00:24:40,280 It also had a second effect, too, 455 00:24:40,346 --> 00:24:42,716 was it really hardened his resolve. 456 00:25:02,168 --> 00:25:03,003 ? And not in the Soviet Union republic. 457 00:25:04,470 --> 00:25:06,673 ? [Steven] During the election there was lots of evidence 458 00:25:06,740 --> 00:25:09,042 that something had gone wrong. 459 00:25:12,045 --> 00:25:15,081 ? At that time Ukrainian intelligence agencies 460 00:25:15,148 --> 00:25:17,751 detected that there were hackers who actually tried 461 00:25:17,818 --> 00:25:20,621 to break into the central election commission. 462 00:25:20,687 --> 00:25:24,024 So they were trying to change the results of the votes. 463 00:25:24,090 --> 00:25:26,693 ? And those parts that had voted for Yanukovich 464 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,962 turned out in excess of 100% was reported. 465 00:25:29,029 --> 00:25:30,296 ? [Reporter] The country's election commission 466 00:25:30,363 --> 00:25:31,732 ignored reports of fraud 467 00:25:31,798 --> 00:25:35,936 declaring Kremlin?backed victory Yanukovich the winner. 468 00:25:37,137 --> 00:25:41,808 ? The election was, in the eyes of most Ukrainians, stolen. 469 00:25:48,815 --> 00:25:50,851 The Ukrainians had enough. 470 00:25:50,917 --> 00:25:53,987 And the Orange Revolution consisted of people coming out 471 00:25:54,054 --> 00:25:55,355 to the central Kiev square 472 00:25:55,421 --> 00:25:59,660 and saying, no, we're not going to accept a bad election. 473 00:26:08,101 --> 00:26:12,606 ? The Ukrainian Supreme Court basically ruled a do over. 474 00:26:25,351 --> 00:26:29,155 ? Russia opposed that idea because they understood correctly 475 00:26:29,222 --> 00:26:31,057 that if it was done in a free and fair way 476 00:26:31,124 --> 00:26:33,293 that Mr. Yanukovich would not win. 477 00:26:34,394 --> 00:26:37,430 ? [Daniel] And Yuschenko became president. 478 00:26:37,497 --> 00:26:40,233 ? [Steven] His prime minister was Yulia Tymoshenko. 479 00:26:41,902 --> 00:26:44,671 ? So this week has a unique feel to it 480 00:26:44,738 --> 00:26:46,840 as we all have the profound privilege 481 00:26:46,907 --> 00:26:49,776 of welcoming president Viktor Yuschenko to?? 482 00:26:49,843 --> 00:26:53,013 (audience applauding) 483 00:26:56,349 --> 00:26:58,885 ? Protection from the regime of mobsters 484 00:26:58,952 --> 00:27:00,921 is only a matter that can cause hope. 485 00:27:01,888 --> 00:27:03,223 We faced a very similar choice. 486 00:27:03,289 --> 00:27:06,326 It was not a choice between the left and the right. 487 00:27:06,392 --> 00:27:10,396 It was the choice between totalitarian regime and democracy. 488 00:27:10,463 --> 00:27:12,933 It has betrayed the future at best. 489 00:27:12,999 --> 00:27:16,169 ? [Reporter] Viktor Yanukovich predicted more turmoil ahead. 490 00:27:16,236 --> 00:27:18,038 I am ready to lead, he said. 491 00:27:18,104 --> 00:27:20,774 Yuschenko will find out what opposition really means. 492 00:27:21,942 --> 00:27:25,245 ? Mr. Manafort came to Ukraine late 2004. 493 00:27:25,311 --> 00:27:28,081 Yanukovich had been fairly badly discredited. 494 00:27:37,090 --> 00:27:38,391 The role that I saw for Mr. Manafort 495 00:27:38,458 --> 00:27:42,128 was somebody tried to rehabilitate Mr. Yanukovich. 496 00:27:42,195 --> 00:27:46,232 ? Paul Manafort has been a Washington political consultant 497 00:27:46,299 --> 00:27:48,034 for a long, long time. 498 00:27:49,269 --> 00:27:51,104 ? [Reporter] Paul Manafort, a top campaign strategist 499 00:27:51,171 --> 00:27:52,272 for President Bush. 500 00:27:58,011 --> 00:28:00,280 ? [Woman] Bob Dole was the last one who brought him on 501 00:28:00,346 --> 00:28:02,382 as the head of the convention at that point. 502 00:28:02,448 --> 00:28:04,284 ? We are ready, not only to continue to lead 503 00:28:04,350 --> 00:28:06,286 in the Congress but to take the White House. 504 00:28:06,352 --> 00:28:07,187 ? He had disappeared. 505 00:28:07,253 --> 00:28:09,022 No one knew what he was doing. 506 00:28:14,528 --> 00:28:17,163 ? [Greg] It's impossible that Paul Manafort was not 507 00:28:17,230 --> 00:28:20,166 at least run past the Russian government 508 00:28:20,233 --> 00:28:23,236 because Manafort was very close to Yanukovich. 509 00:28:23,303 --> 00:28:25,972 And Yanukovich was so close to the Kremlin. 510 00:28:29,142 --> 00:28:31,812 ? The big switch from western, the western point of view 511 00:28:31,878 --> 00:28:34,781 was the Munich security conference speech. 512 00:28:36,216 --> 00:28:39,319 ? The United States has overstepped its national borders 513 00:28:39,385 --> 00:28:40,521 in every way. 514 00:28:40,587 --> 00:28:43,957 Of course such a policy stimulates an arms race. 515 00:28:44,024 --> 00:28:45,859 No one feels safe. 516 00:28:45,926 --> 00:28:48,228 ? Senator Joe Lieberman and I were sitting 517 00:28:48,294 --> 00:28:51,031 in assigned seats in the front row. 518 00:28:51,097 --> 00:28:53,567 And he would utter a phrase in Russian 519 00:28:53,634 --> 00:28:57,303 and after he would say, he'd look over at the two of us 520 00:28:57,370 --> 00:29:00,473 like that, you know, I said what is it with this guy? 521 00:29:02,208 --> 00:29:03,276 ? I very often. 522 00:29:03,343 --> 00:29:04,377 He repeals by our partners. 523 00:29:04,444 --> 00:29:05,646 The effect that Russia should play 524 00:29:05,712 --> 00:29:09,082 an increasingly active role in world affairs. 525 00:29:10,250 --> 00:29:11,785 ? That was 2007. 526 00:29:13,053 --> 00:29:15,188 Two months later they did the cyber?attack 527 00:29:15,255 --> 00:29:20,260 on my country because we really didn't want a Soviet statue 528 00:29:21,528 --> 00:29:23,063 in the middle of town. 529 00:29:24,397 --> 00:29:25,899 We didn't tear it down. 530 00:29:25,966 --> 00:29:27,300 We moved it. 531 00:29:27,367 --> 00:29:30,571 We figured, okay, this is important for some people. 532 00:29:30,637 --> 00:29:35,075 But even that was sort of enough of an offense. 533 00:29:35,141 --> 00:29:37,310 (yelling) 534 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,983 The 9th of May with the day the Russians celebrate 535 00:29:43,049 --> 00:29:46,620 the end of World War II no one could get into any websites 536 00:29:46,687 --> 00:29:51,191 including the banks, any government sites, news media. 537 00:29:52,058 --> 00:29:53,627 I mean, it's clear they did it. 538 00:29:53,694 --> 00:29:55,996 A year later they invaded Georgia. 539 00:29:58,298 --> 00:30:00,400 ? After the collapse of the Soviet Union, 540 00:30:00,466 --> 00:30:04,137 Georgia was controlled by mafias and criminal gangs 541 00:30:04,204 --> 00:30:05,972 that were known as thieves?in?law. 542 00:30:06,039 --> 00:30:10,911 ? Then came the revolution and Misha Saakashvili 543 00:30:10,977 --> 00:30:12,245 became their president. 544 00:30:16,382 --> 00:30:19,119 And made, really, very significant changes 545 00:30:19,185 --> 00:30:21,287 and improvement to the country. 546 00:30:21,354 --> 00:30:23,289 ? After years of the Georgian economy 547 00:30:23,356 --> 00:30:25,959 being a basket case suddenly starts to roar. 548 00:30:26,026 --> 00:30:29,195 He had a vision of Georgia in NATO and the EU. 549 00:30:29,262 --> 00:30:30,363 The Russians hated it. 550 00:30:31,464 --> 00:30:34,367 ? As long as you have these blocs, 551 00:30:34,434 --> 00:30:36,036 NATO and the European Union, 552 00:30:36,102 --> 00:30:40,140 they're bigger, richer, stronger, more powerful than Russia. 553 00:30:42,709 --> 00:30:46,279 But if you reduce them to their individual parts 554 00:30:46,346 --> 00:30:49,049 each of these countries is far weaker than Russia. 555 00:30:50,383 --> 00:30:53,654 ? They kept provoking the Georgians more and more 556 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,355 and more and more. 557 00:30:55,421 --> 00:30:57,057 They wanted a war. 558 00:30:59,125 --> 00:31:00,393 ? They started to say the war. 559 00:31:01,562 --> 00:31:04,030 At first he started to tell it to me. 560 00:31:04,097 --> 00:31:05,431 To some western leaders. 561 00:31:08,234 --> 00:31:11,304 Looked like the west was the wandering life, 562 00:31:11,371 --> 00:31:14,207 wanted somewhere and Russians knew where they were going. 563 00:31:16,643 --> 00:31:18,612 Then we had direct military attacks. 564 00:31:20,246 --> 00:31:24,150 ? In the middle of the opening ceremonies of the Olympics, 565 00:31:24,217 --> 00:31:25,586 the Russians invaded Georgia. 566 00:31:30,190 --> 00:31:31,658 (man yelling) 567 00:31:31,725 --> 00:31:35,095 (tanks rapidly firing) 568 00:31:35,161 --> 00:31:36,262 ? Wake up, wake up. 569 00:31:36,329 --> 00:31:38,632 We are attacked because we wanted to be free. 570 00:31:38,699 --> 00:31:40,200 We are attacked because we wanted 571 00:31:40,266 --> 00:31:41,267 to build genuine democracy. 572 00:31:41,334 --> 00:31:43,637 If Americans and Europeans don't stand up 573 00:31:43,704 --> 00:31:46,372 for their own values, for their own principles, 574 00:31:46,439 --> 00:31:48,509 then those principles and values will be in danger 575 00:31:48,575 --> 00:31:50,744 to the Georgia, tomorrow elsewhere. 576 00:31:50,811 --> 00:31:52,746 ? But the Russians then spent a lot of time 577 00:31:52,813 --> 00:31:55,649 convincing everyone the Georgians started the war. 578 00:31:55,716 --> 00:31:57,150 It's Saakashvili's fault. 579 00:31:57,217 --> 00:31:59,452 He was dangerous and a madman. 580 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,522 ? Russia has criticized the western media 581 00:32:01,588 --> 00:32:04,525 for what it's called it's biosphere on the conflict. 582 00:32:04,591 --> 00:32:06,593 Not all journalists blame Russia for the conflict. 583 00:32:06,660 --> 00:32:07,994 Alex Jones? 584 00:32:08,061 --> 00:32:10,296 ? [Alex] I just hope Russia keeps troops in Georgia 585 00:32:10,363 --> 00:32:11,732 because the dictator, 586 00:32:11,798 --> 00:32:14,467 and we know he was elected under fraud there in Georgia 587 00:32:14,535 --> 00:32:16,637 has said that he plans, he said it last week, 588 00:32:16,703 --> 00:32:18,438 to attack again. 589 00:32:18,505 --> 00:32:21,474 ? Allegation that Georgia would attack Russia 590 00:32:21,542 --> 00:32:25,746 is so foolish and outrageous and disgraceful. 591 00:32:25,812 --> 00:32:28,081 But it's typical of Vladimir Putin. 592 00:32:29,516 --> 00:32:31,351 ? They did not achieve the collapse 593 00:32:31,417 --> 00:32:33,086 of the Saakashvili government. 594 00:32:33,153 --> 00:32:35,088 It cost them a lot in respect, 595 00:32:35,155 --> 00:32:37,157 in international relationships. 596 00:32:37,223 --> 00:32:39,092 And their military was really exposed 597 00:32:39,159 --> 00:32:41,261 as something weaker than they all thought. 598 00:32:42,596 --> 00:32:44,698 So there was this whole portfolio of kind of rethinking 599 00:32:44,765 --> 00:32:47,634 what are the political warfare tools 600 00:32:47,701 --> 00:32:49,970 that we have that we can use. 601 00:32:51,437 --> 00:32:54,274 ? They began to increase their funding to far right 602 00:32:54,340 --> 00:32:58,211 nationalistic white supremacists political parties. 603 00:32:58,278 --> 00:33:01,682 ? In democracies, public opinion is your battlefield. 604 00:33:01,748 --> 00:33:03,817 It's finding those affinity groups. 605 00:33:03,884 --> 00:33:05,519 They don't like globalization. 606 00:33:05,586 --> 00:33:07,588 They're very fearful of immigration. 607 00:33:07,654 --> 00:33:08,421 They're xenophobic. 608 00:33:08,488 --> 00:33:10,791 And that fear is then used 609 00:33:10,857 --> 00:33:13,560 by Russian disinformation operations to say 610 00:33:13,627 --> 00:33:16,429 you're not being protected from migration crisis, 611 00:33:16,496 --> 00:33:20,233 from the social changes that we see around you. 612 00:33:20,300 --> 00:33:24,538 Gazprom and others, they were purchasing local affiliates 613 00:33:24,605 --> 00:33:27,440 so it looked like less Russian, had less of a Russian face. 614 00:33:27,508 --> 00:33:31,477 ? Gazprom is the world's largest gas company. 615 00:33:31,545 --> 00:33:36,149 It and its resources are used to help achieve 616 00:33:36,216 --> 00:33:38,652 the political objectives of the Russian state. 617 00:33:38,719 --> 00:33:41,555 ? When the economics and the politics combine 618 00:33:41,622 --> 00:33:44,257 in fact the, it's state capture. 619 00:33:44,324 --> 00:33:48,361 The national government cannot take independent action 620 00:33:48,428 --> 00:33:53,433 that does not follow Russia's policy interests. 621 00:33:54,635 --> 00:33:55,902 ? It's far better to expend your energy 622 00:33:55,969 --> 00:33:59,673 on getting a Russia friendly government elected 623 00:33:59,740 --> 00:34:01,708 than it is to have to build up your military 624 00:34:01,775 --> 00:34:03,409 to invade the country. 625 00:34:05,546 --> 00:34:07,480 ? There was the Russian oligarchy, Ivanishvili, 626 00:34:07,548 --> 00:34:10,450 who was biggest private shareholder of Russia Gazprom. 627 00:34:11,718 --> 00:34:14,621 Suddenly Ivanishvili announced that he was entering politics 628 00:34:14,688 --> 00:34:16,356 and he will run against us. 629 00:34:16,422 --> 00:34:17,691 ? They wanted to believe 630 00:34:17,758 --> 00:34:21,294 that he was this independent weirdo businessman. 631 00:34:21,361 --> 00:34:23,229 He must be a very successful man. 632 00:34:23,296 --> 00:34:25,666 Nobody wanted to believe he was what he is, 633 00:34:25,732 --> 00:34:29,770 a front for Russian engagement in the country. 634 00:34:29,836 --> 00:34:32,506 The campaign in Georgia before the 2012 election 635 00:34:32,573 --> 00:34:35,676 had been increasingly dirty and hostile and violent. 636 00:34:35,742 --> 00:34:38,378 ? So the narrative was that no matter 637 00:34:38,444 --> 00:34:41,147 what you will falsify, rig the elections. 638 00:34:41,214 --> 00:34:43,517 And then they would take it to the streets. 639 00:34:43,584 --> 00:34:44,685 ? There was a lot of discussion 640 00:34:44,751 --> 00:34:46,386 about political prosecution. 641 00:34:46,452 --> 00:34:47,854 If they won they would have put 642 00:34:47,921 --> 00:34:50,156 the entire former government in prison, 643 00:34:50,223 --> 00:34:51,257 that these were all criminal. 644 00:34:51,324 --> 00:34:52,859 Some of it was really cheap stuff. 645 00:34:52,926 --> 00:34:54,695 Saakashvili is really an Armenian. 646 00:34:54,761 --> 00:34:56,530 He's not really a Georgian. 647 00:34:58,699 --> 00:35:00,601 ? That's a technique the Russians use quite a bit. 648 00:35:00,667 --> 00:35:02,202 The best way to discredit somebody 649 00:35:02,268 --> 00:35:03,837 is to make them appear inauthentic. 650 00:35:03,904 --> 00:35:06,840 They're not part of the community which they say they are. 651 00:35:06,907 --> 00:35:08,609 ? Then it's picked up by other media. 652 00:35:08,675 --> 00:35:10,644 It's sort of spread about social media. 653 00:35:11,845 --> 00:35:14,380 Eventually people sort of say some of this must be true. 654 00:35:16,683 --> 00:35:18,952 ? Mafia bosses, (speaking in foreign language) from Russia 655 00:35:19,019 --> 00:35:21,855 try to help to organize mass disturbances. 656 00:35:24,625 --> 00:35:26,392 They listened to our telephone conversations, 657 00:35:26,459 --> 00:35:28,595 especially when we were calling from abroad. 658 00:35:30,697 --> 00:35:33,266 For whatever similar situation would ignite in Georgia 659 00:35:33,333 --> 00:35:36,603 they always had intercepts for all kind of situations. 660 00:35:36,670 --> 00:35:38,739 ? No party in Georgia could have been 661 00:35:38,805 --> 00:35:40,674 in a real popular way for Russian. 662 00:35:40,741 --> 00:35:42,275 And Ivanishvili knew that. 663 00:35:42,342 --> 00:35:43,677 So you had a new message on Russia. 664 00:35:43,744 --> 00:35:45,546 It was wouldn't it be nice 665 00:35:45,612 --> 00:35:47,814 if we had a better relationship with Russia? 666 00:35:54,821 --> 00:35:56,790 ? About two weeks before the vote, 667 00:35:56,857 --> 00:35:58,592 there was the release of the first 668 00:35:58,659 --> 00:36:01,695 of what became known as the prison abuse tapes. 669 00:36:01,762 --> 00:36:03,730 ? The images looked very bad. 670 00:36:03,797 --> 00:36:06,366 After initial shock, people started to look at the image. 671 00:36:06,432 --> 00:36:10,303 In details they explain to us that the whole thing was fake. 672 00:36:10,370 --> 00:36:12,839 Later we discovered that this thing was done by guys 673 00:36:12,906 --> 00:36:16,309 with very well?known Russian intelligence connections. 674 00:36:16,376 --> 00:36:17,778 But it was too late. 675 00:36:17,844 --> 00:36:19,746 ? [Reporter] On Tuesday President Saakashvili 676 00:36:19,813 --> 00:36:23,483 conceded he lost the closely fought parliamentary vote. 677 00:36:23,550 --> 00:36:26,687 ? 65 or so former officials have been arrested, 678 00:36:26,753 --> 00:36:28,288 detained, or convicted. 679 00:36:29,756 --> 00:36:31,858 Saakashvili will be arrested if he goes back to Georgia. 680 00:36:40,801 --> 00:36:42,736 ? And then you saw the allowing of Russian money 681 00:36:42,803 --> 00:36:44,671 back into Georgia's full society. 682 00:36:44,738 --> 00:36:47,741 ? We are returning Georgia product to the Russian market. 683 00:36:47,808 --> 00:36:49,342 ? His wealth and his fortune 684 00:36:49,409 --> 00:36:51,745 are all connected to the Kremlin. 685 00:36:51,812 --> 00:36:54,981 That means he can never be independent of what they want. 686 00:36:55,048 --> 00:36:57,751 ? Putin had told the National Security Council 687 00:36:57,818 --> 00:36:59,686 that Georgian elections were the most successful 688 00:36:59,753 --> 00:37:01,888 special operation they ever had. 689 00:37:04,825 --> 00:37:06,660 They learned that any democratic system 690 00:37:06,727 --> 00:37:10,063 is essentially very vulnerable to this kind of meddling. 691 00:37:10,130 --> 00:37:12,699 Full corruption, information campaigns, 692 00:37:12,766 --> 00:37:14,668 character destructions, 693 00:37:14,735 --> 00:37:17,704 and then your adversary's much more vulnerable. 694 00:37:17,771 --> 00:37:20,507 Then it's nothing about their economy size or military size. 695 00:37:20,574 --> 00:37:21,908 It's about their state of mind. 696 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,482 ? In Ukraine Putin did the same thing. 697 00:37:29,550 --> 00:37:33,987 ? Ukraine is about 100% dependent on Russia for natural gas. 698 00:37:34,054 --> 00:37:36,823 ? Instead of there being direct sales from Gazprom 699 00:37:36,890 --> 00:37:40,460 there were a whole series of intermediary companies 700 00:37:40,527 --> 00:37:43,830 which seemed to be controlled by a man named Dmitry Firtash. 701 00:37:47,601 --> 00:37:50,604 Dmitry Firtash, a Pro?Putin oligarch. 702 00:37:51,905 --> 00:37:55,609 He had worked with Mogilevich, the crime boss. 703 00:37:55,676 --> 00:37:58,845 They siphon off lots of money from this Gazprom. 704 00:37:58,912 --> 00:38:00,246 Billions of dollars. 705 00:38:00,313 --> 00:38:03,650 ? [Michael] Firtash was very close to Vladimir Putin. 706 00:38:03,717 --> 00:38:08,021 Paul Manafort was a business partner of Firtash. 707 00:38:08,088 --> 00:38:09,222 ? Ukrainian politicians. 708 00:38:09,289 --> 00:38:12,392 It was all just whisper the name Paul Manafort. 709 00:38:12,458 --> 00:38:16,496 He was the dark prince in the background, 710 00:38:16,563 --> 00:38:18,565 orchestrating everything. 711 00:38:22,135 --> 00:38:24,004 He was viewed as a man who was the connection 712 00:38:24,070 --> 00:38:27,808 between the Kremlin and pro?Russian party in Ukraine 713 00:38:27,874 --> 00:38:31,377 to advance Russian political interests. 714 00:38:34,180 --> 00:38:36,850 ? Russia was buying up utilities. 715 00:38:36,917 --> 00:38:39,586 The oligarchs were doing Putin's bidding. 716 00:38:39,653 --> 00:38:41,955 It cut off Ukraine's energy supply. 717 00:38:45,726 --> 00:38:46,993 ? It's really a terrible thing 718 00:38:47,060 --> 00:38:48,962 if someone is killed by a bullet 719 00:38:49,029 --> 00:38:51,632 but isn't it terrible if you shut down 720 00:38:51,698 --> 00:38:52,899 the power in the winter? 721 00:38:53,934 --> 00:38:56,737 ? In 2009, after about two weeks 722 00:38:56,803 --> 00:38:57,838 meeting with President Putin, 723 00:38:57,904 --> 00:39:01,007 Prime Minster Tymoshenko negotiated a deal 724 00:39:01,074 --> 00:39:03,544 that ended the gas cutoff. 725 00:39:05,045 --> 00:39:06,613 ? [Reporter] The presidential elections 726 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,915 head for a pulsating climax. 727 00:39:08,982 --> 00:39:10,416 In the orange corner 728 00:39:10,483 --> 00:39:13,887 the current poor western prime minister, Yulia Tymoshenko. 729 00:39:14,888 --> 00:39:16,156 In the blue corner, 730 00:39:16,222 --> 00:39:19,459 pro?Moscow opposition leader Viktor Yanukovich. 731 00:39:19,526 --> 00:39:20,761 ? [Reporter] Manafort was remaking 732 00:39:20,827 --> 00:39:23,664 Yanukovych's overall appearance and personality 733 00:39:23,730 --> 00:39:25,932 as a politician to make him more palatable. 734 00:39:29,169 --> 00:39:31,104 ? [Reporter] When he said no to a TV debate, 735 00:39:31,171 --> 00:39:34,374 she went ahead with it anyway facing an empty podium. 736 00:39:52,826 --> 00:39:54,928 ? [Reporter] Viktor Yanukovich claimed victory 737 00:39:54,995 --> 00:39:57,497 in the Ukraine presidential election. 738 00:40:02,703 --> 00:40:04,538 ? Once Viktor Yanukovich had become president 739 00:40:04,605 --> 00:40:05,972 one of the things they were trying 740 00:40:06,039 --> 00:40:08,642 to go after Tymoshenko for was, in fact, 741 00:40:08,709 --> 00:40:10,711 that gas arrangement she had done. 742 00:40:10,777 --> 00:40:11,878 ? [Reporter] She compared the case 743 00:40:11,945 --> 00:40:14,047 to a Stalinist show trial. 744 00:40:14,114 --> 00:40:16,249 ? [Reporter] All this was staged in advance 745 00:40:16,316 --> 00:40:18,118 of the president's administration 746 00:40:18,184 --> 00:40:19,520 to eliminate the opposition. 747 00:40:19,586 --> 00:40:23,156 ? It may have been a bad deal but it certainly wasn't 748 00:40:23,223 --> 00:40:26,059 the criminal action that the Ukrainian government 749 00:40:26,126 --> 00:40:28,094 under Yanukovich charged her with. 750 00:40:35,035 --> 00:40:36,870 ? [Reporter] A seven year prison term and an order 751 00:40:36,937 --> 00:40:40,040 that she pay 200 million dollars in compensation. 752 00:40:54,888 --> 00:40:56,523 ? [Reporter] From prison, Tymoshenko staged 753 00:40:56,590 --> 00:40:57,958 a temporary hunger strike 754 00:40:58,024 --> 00:40:59,826 saying she'd been beaten by guards 755 00:40:59,893 --> 00:41:01,828 and needed immediate medical attention. 756 00:41:10,303 --> 00:41:11,437 ? In a lawsuit that was filed 757 00:41:11,505 --> 00:41:13,974 by the former prime minister of Ukraine, 758 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:18,011 there were some rather striking court documents 759 00:41:19,913 --> 00:41:22,716 referring to Manafort's role, 760 00:41:24,150 --> 00:41:27,287 and including his business relationships, 761 00:41:27,353 --> 00:41:32,559 real estate deals with a Russian oligarch, Dmitry Firtash. 762 00:41:33,627 --> 00:41:35,896 Paul Manafort was in business 763 00:41:35,962 --> 00:41:40,967 with not one but two Russian oligarchs. 764 00:41:42,002 --> 00:41:44,938 Dmitry Firtash, who was under indictment 765 00:41:45,005 --> 00:41:46,673 by the U. S. Justice Department. 766 00:41:51,878 --> 00:41:55,181 Another, Deripaska, who had been denied entry 767 00:41:55,248 --> 00:41:56,416 into the United States 768 00:41:56,482 --> 00:41:59,019 because of suspected organized crime ties. 769 00:42:00,186 --> 00:42:04,024 ? Paul Manafort signed a contract with Oleg Derispaska 770 00:42:04,090 --> 00:42:07,227 to promote the Kremlin and the Kremlin's interests. 771 00:42:09,996 --> 00:42:14,701 Quoting Deripaska, Putin told him Manafort's our man. 772 00:42:21,007 --> 00:42:24,811 ? Paul Manafort got his home in Trump Towers in 2006. 773 00:42:27,113 --> 00:42:30,884 You can easily see billions of dollars being siphoned off 774 00:42:30,951 --> 00:42:33,854 from that Ukraine Russian energy trade 775 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,323 and going through Firtash to Paul Manafort 776 00:42:37,390 --> 00:42:40,661 and to Russians or Ukrainians who were buying condos 777 00:42:40,727 --> 00:42:42,295 in Trump?branded properties. 778 00:42:48,368 --> 00:42:50,904 ? Russia has three main tactics for engaging 779 00:42:50,971 --> 00:42:52,739 in what we call active measures. 780 00:42:52,806 --> 00:42:55,041 Propaganda, cyber?attacks. 781 00:42:55,108 --> 00:42:57,010 Most people don't focus on a third pillar 782 00:42:57,077 --> 00:43:00,146 of Russian active measures which is to recruit and enlist 783 00:43:00,213 --> 00:43:03,349 and in some cases run agents of influence. 784 00:43:08,221 --> 00:43:09,255 ? The Russians, with their 785 00:43:09,322 --> 00:43:12,192 full?time intelligence operatives. 786 00:43:13,393 --> 00:43:16,797 There's probably way over 1,000 of those 787 00:43:16,863 --> 00:43:18,364 in the United States. 788 00:43:18,431 --> 00:43:20,701 ? The FBI does its best to try 789 00:43:20,767 --> 00:43:23,436 to monitor Russian intelligence officers 790 00:43:23,504 --> 00:43:26,807 here in the United States but there are so many of them 791 00:43:26,873 --> 00:43:30,176 and frankly the FBI's resources are so limited. 792 00:43:30,243 --> 00:43:35,248 ? When I did cases I actually had to decide on which days 793 00:43:36,449 --> 00:43:40,754 I wanted the FBI surveillance group to watch my target. 794 00:43:43,824 --> 00:43:45,025 ? We had no idea. 795 00:43:45,091 --> 00:43:47,828 They just seemed like a nice, quiet family. 796 00:43:49,395 --> 00:43:53,834 ? If you look at either as Russian agents or as Russians 797 00:43:53,900 --> 00:43:58,071 who work on disinformation there are more of them 798 00:43:58,138 --> 00:44:00,240 than there are Russians in the armed forces. 799 00:44:01,274 --> 00:44:04,277 So a thousand. (laughs) 800 00:44:04,344 --> 00:44:06,079 ? These can be individuals who know 801 00:44:06,146 --> 00:44:08,849 that they are spying for Russian intelligence. 802 00:44:08,915 --> 00:44:10,817 Know that they are committing espionage. 803 00:44:10,884 --> 00:44:14,487 Or can refer to some individuals who just aren't sure 804 00:44:14,555 --> 00:44:16,322 exactly who they're dealing with. 805 00:44:16,389 --> 00:44:20,160 Maybe it's bankers, maybe its financiers. 806 00:44:20,226 --> 00:44:22,328 Maybe it's people on the periphery of government 807 00:44:22,395 --> 00:44:26,867 doing something that the Russian government wants. 808 00:44:26,933 --> 00:44:28,802 ? It seems that anybody who was anybody 809 00:44:28,869 --> 00:44:32,072 in Russian organized crime who came to Manhattan 810 00:44:32,138 --> 00:44:34,240 bought a condo unit in Trump tower. 811 00:44:34,307 --> 00:44:37,110 There were gambling operations going on there 812 00:44:37,177 --> 00:44:39,746 and prostitution operations. 813 00:44:39,813 --> 00:44:42,148 These investigations were leading to Trump 814 00:44:42,215 --> 00:44:43,449 over and over and over again. 815 00:44:45,218 --> 00:44:48,321 ? Christopher Steele is a former MI6 specialist in Russia. 816 00:44:48,388 --> 00:44:51,457 The U. S. investigator firm commissioned Mr. Steele 817 00:44:51,525 --> 00:44:55,161 to look at Mr. Trump and Russia. 818 00:44:55,228 --> 00:44:56,630 It was a very general assignment 819 00:44:56,697 --> 00:44:59,766 and he found an extensive set of relations with Russia. 820 00:45:02,368 --> 00:45:05,005 ? [Scott] He was generally held in very high regard. 821 00:45:05,071 --> 00:45:08,208 Had a reputation of also for working with the FBI. 822 00:45:08,274 --> 00:45:11,044 ? He helped the FBI make the FIFA cases. 823 00:45:12,212 --> 00:45:13,146 ? [Reporter] Major corruption crackdown 824 00:45:13,213 --> 00:45:14,881 going down right now. 825 00:45:14,948 --> 00:45:16,149 Arrests made around the world. 826 00:45:16,216 --> 00:45:17,317 ? [Reporter] This is the result 827 00:45:17,383 --> 00:45:19,185 of a three year long FBI investigation. 828 00:45:19,252 --> 00:45:20,386 ? He broke the case. 829 00:45:20,453 --> 00:45:24,290 He gave them access to the key witnesses 830 00:45:24,357 --> 00:45:27,293 that they used to get the pretty spectacular results 831 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,295 that they ultimately got. 832 00:45:30,531 --> 00:45:34,167 ? Alexander Litvinenko, who's a former FSB agent. 833 00:45:34,234 --> 00:45:39,239 When he sought asylum in London he started working for MI6. 834 00:45:40,373 --> 00:45:42,275 His handler was Christopher Steele. 835 00:45:43,610 --> 00:45:46,580 He was trying to expose that Vladimir Putin 836 00:45:46,647 --> 00:45:49,249 was closely linked to Semion Mogilevich, 837 00:45:49,315 --> 00:45:52,152 the crime boss of Russia. 838 00:45:52,218 --> 00:45:55,288 Litvinenko was eventually poisoned by polonium 839 00:45:55,355 --> 00:45:59,025 in a murder that was very directly linked to Russia. 840 00:46:00,426 --> 00:46:03,964 So when Mr. Steele was hired to do oppo research 841 00:46:04,030 --> 00:46:08,301 on Donald Trump he was very, very knowledgeable indeed. 842 00:46:09,603 --> 00:46:13,306 ? The Steele Dossier was a set of reports 843 00:46:13,373 --> 00:46:15,075 that Mr. Steele wrote. 844 00:46:17,210 --> 00:46:22,215 ? All of its allegations fall into one of three categories. 845 00:46:25,151 --> 00:46:30,156 Not yet proven, proven to be true, and have an error 846 00:46:36,530 --> 00:46:39,533 that is consistent with transcription 847 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,135 or transliteration problems. 848 00:46:42,202 --> 00:46:45,305 ? It was said to Mr. Steele's sources 849 00:46:45,371 --> 00:46:50,043 that Russia had turned Mr. Trump for many, many years. 850 00:46:51,945 --> 00:46:53,346 In the course of work on Russia matters, 851 00:46:53,413 --> 00:46:55,348 I came to know Mr. Steele. 852 00:46:55,415 --> 00:46:58,619 I work with people who I can trust. 853 00:46:58,685 --> 00:46:59,986 Yes, I trusted Chris Steele. 854 00:47:00,053 --> 00:47:01,988 I still trust Chris Steele. 855 00:47:02,055 --> 00:47:03,123 ? Look at Putin what he's doing with, 856 00:47:03,189 --> 00:47:05,225 I mean, you know, what's going on over there. 857 00:47:05,291 --> 00:47:06,392 I mean, this guy has done, 858 00:47:06,459 --> 00:47:09,195 whether you like him or don't like him 859 00:47:09,262 --> 00:47:13,033 he's doing a great job in rebuilding the image of Russia. 860 00:47:13,099 --> 00:47:15,435 And also rebuilding Russia period. 861 00:47:15,501 --> 00:47:19,906 ? Putin seeks the veneer of democratic legitimacy 862 00:47:19,973 --> 00:47:22,342 but there cannot be choice. 863 00:47:22,408 --> 00:47:25,178 In the Russian constitution you cannot run 864 00:47:25,245 --> 00:47:26,947 for a third term as president. 865 00:47:27,013 --> 00:47:30,450 So what he did was to find a very close member 866 00:47:30,517 --> 00:47:33,987 of his inner circle to agree to be president 867 00:47:34,054 --> 00:47:35,255 while he could be prime minster. 868 00:47:39,125 --> 00:47:43,463 ? He is someone who is obviously being installed by Putin 869 00:47:43,530 --> 00:47:48,301 and it raises serious issues about how we're going 870 00:47:48,368 --> 00:47:50,103 to deal with Russia going forward. 871 00:47:51,572 --> 00:47:55,041 ? Putin faces what I call the King Lear problem. 872 00:47:55,108 --> 00:47:58,411 You can't resign to a comfortable life 873 00:47:58,478 --> 00:48:02,182 because of the things you've done when you were king. 874 00:48:02,248 --> 00:48:06,119 But the constitutional forms were observed. 875 00:48:17,130 --> 00:48:18,565 ? When Putin returned to the presidency, 876 00:48:18,632 --> 00:48:19,933 by that point I think it was about 877 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,368 to the least surprising development that any of us 878 00:48:22,435 --> 00:48:24,337 had seen in Russia in a long time. 879 00:48:24,404 --> 00:48:26,406 ? I mean, you can imagine the conversation with Putin. 880 00:48:26,472 --> 00:48:27,508 Vladimir. 881 00:48:28,742 --> 00:48:29,776 You think you'd like to be president again? 882 00:48:29,843 --> 00:48:33,647 I think I would. (audience laughs) 883 00:48:39,419 --> 00:48:43,524 ? The election was clearly unfair and illegitimate. 884 00:48:43,590 --> 00:48:46,459 I said that on behalf of the United States. 885 00:48:46,527 --> 00:48:49,996 We just witnessed a flawed duma election in Russia 886 00:48:50,063 --> 00:48:54,467 including efforts to halt the election monitoring. 887 00:48:54,535 --> 00:48:57,003 And Russian voters deserve a full investigation 888 00:48:57,070 --> 00:48:59,640 of electoral fraud and manipulation. 889 00:48:59,706 --> 00:49:01,975 I wasn't the only person who thought that. 890 00:49:05,512 --> 00:49:09,082 ? [Heather] He encountered the largest public demonstrations 891 00:49:09,149 --> 00:49:10,517 of his tenure. 892 00:49:10,584 --> 00:49:12,786 (shouting in foreign language) 893 00:49:12,853 --> 00:49:14,721 ? [Man] They shouted Putin is a thief. 894 00:49:14,788 --> 00:49:17,524 ? Which terrified him because of the Orange Revolution. 895 00:49:19,092 --> 00:49:22,395 Because of the uprisings that took place 896 00:49:22,462 --> 00:49:25,298 post collapse of the Soviet Union 897 00:49:25,365 --> 00:49:27,768 in places that wanted more than just 898 00:49:27,834 --> 00:49:30,436 a different form of autocracy. 899 00:49:30,504 --> 00:49:32,539 ? If you look at the crowds of those 900 00:49:32,606 --> 00:49:33,940 that were in the protest, 901 00:49:34,007 --> 00:49:37,477 I'll bet ya nine out of 10 of them were under age 25. 902 00:49:37,544 --> 00:49:39,479 They don't want that kind of a government. 903 00:49:39,546 --> 00:49:41,347 They want to be like the Europeans. 904 00:49:41,414 --> 00:49:43,483 And I think that Vladimir Putin has not seen 905 00:49:43,550 --> 00:49:45,519 the last of these protests. 906 00:49:45,586 --> 00:49:48,288 ? And then he attacked me and accused me 907 00:49:48,354 --> 00:49:50,757 of inciting the demonstrations 908 00:49:50,824 --> 00:49:53,293 that really were grassroots from the bottom up. 909 00:49:53,359 --> 00:49:56,763 ? Putin blamed her very publicly. 910 00:49:56,830 --> 00:49:58,665 Privately he did too, by the way. 911 00:49:59,666 --> 00:50:01,501 ? She set the tone for some of the activists 912 00:50:01,568 --> 00:50:02,803 inside our country. 913 00:50:02,869 --> 00:50:03,970 Gave them a signal. 914 00:50:04,037 --> 00:50:06,106 They heard this signal and started active work 915 00:50:06,172 --> 00:50:09,175 in support of the U. S. State Department. 916 00:50:09,242 --> 00:50:12,546 ? I suspect that Putin, like Stalin, 917 00:50:12,613 --> 00:50:16,116 read every one else by his own measure. 918 00:50:17,551 --> 00:50:20,453 And being a cynical person, understanding only power, 919 00:50:20,521 --> 00:50:24,090 he probably assumed that we were equally cynical 920 00:50:24,157 --> 00:50:26,560 and our protestations of support for democracy 921 00:50:26,627 --> 00:50:28,094 were meaningless fluff. 922 00:50:30,196 --> 00:50:33,466 So that he sees our actions in Russia 923 00:50:33,534 --> 00:50:35,569 as designed to undermine him. 924 00:50:35,636 --> 00:50:38,238 And he looks at all the democratic activists 925 00:50:38,304 --> 00:50:41,207 as somehow somebody else's puppet. 926 00:50:41,274 --> 00:50:45,512 Hillary Clinton is doing this or Condi Rice is doing this. 927 00:50:45,579 --> 00:50:48,615 ? It's not that he believes everything 928 00:50:48,682 --> 00:50:52,819 but there is a kind of a grounding in his KGB training 929 00:50:52,886 --> 00:50:54,655 because, remember, during the Cold War 930 00:50:54,721 --> 00:50:58,424 they would fund some firebrand in some country 931 00:50:58,491 --> 00:51:02,128 to became allied with them and we would go in 932 00:51:02,195 --> 00:51:04,831 and try to undercut that person and visa versa. 933 00:51:04,898 --> 00:51:08,434 But a lot of it is just to keep people in Russia in line. 934 00:51:08,501 --> 00:51:13,507 My experience with him was difficult and challenging 935 00:51:14,374 --> 00:51:16,643 because I challenged him. 936 00:51:16,710 --> 00:51:18,645 ? It's better not to argue with women. 937 00:51:18,712 --> 00:51:20,714 But Mrs. Clinton has never been too graceful 938 00:51:20,781 --> 00:51:22,115 in her statements. 939 00:51:22,182 --> 00:51:25,151 When people push boundaries too far it's not because 940 00:51:25,218 --> 00:51:27,621 they are strong but because they are weak. 941 00:51:27,688 --> 00:51:30,924 But maybe weakness is not the right quality for a woman. 942 00:51:30,991 --> 00:51:32,392 ? In meetings that I've had with him, 943 00:51:32,458 --> 00:51:36,730 he is in a very calculated way trying to gain advantage, 944 00:51:36,797 --> 00:51:39,700 looking at you with disdain and contempt. 945 00:51:39,766 --> 00:51:41,101 The bored kid in school. 946 00:51:41,167 --> 00:51:43,904 When the cameras are on he will criticize the United States. 947 00:51:43,970 --> 00:51:45,038 When the cameras are gone, 948 00:51:45,105 --> 00:51:47,674 he'll act like he's willing to talk to you. 949 00:51:47,741 --> 00:51:48,575 He's into man spreading. 950 00:51:48,642 --> 00:51:50,443 You know what that is, right. 951 00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,550 ? Putin never really developed a working relationship 952 00:51:56,617 --> 00:51:58,351 with secretary Clinton. 953 00:51:58,418 --> 00:52:03,323 He became very upset about what she said in December, 2011 954 00:52:03,990 --> 00:52:05,792 and was looking for revenge. 955 00:52:05,859 --> 00:52:08,629 ? If you can use and capture elite in specific ways 956 00:52:08,695 --> 00:52:09,796 you can accomplish your goals 957 00:52:09,863 --> 00:52:12,498 without needing to get public support. 958 00:52:12,566 --> 00:52:14,300 The recruiting tool was money. 959 00:52:14,367 --> 00:52:17,237 ? You see just so much money flowing to Trump. 960 00:52:23,409 --> 00:52:25,946 It's hard to imagine there's not more to it 961 00:52:26,012 --> 00:52:29,315 than just simple generosity. (chuckles) 962 00:52:29,382 --> 00:52:33,654 ? All his American banks cut their lines of credit. 963 00:52:33,720 --> 00:52:35,055 Stopped doing business with him 964 00:52:35,121 --> 00:52:40,426 and one bank steps into the breach as his lender of choice. 965 00:52:41,427 --> 00:52:42,796 And that's Deutsche bank. 966 00:52:44,865 --> 00:52:47,300 ? From the perspective of most western bankers 967 00:52:47,367 --> 00:52:49,670 that was just seen as insane. 968 00:52:49,736 --> 00:52:50,871 ? He's had a history 969 00:52:50,937 --> 00:52:53,406 of making misleading statements to them. 970 00:52:53,473 --> 00:52:54,274 Threatening them. 971 00:52:54,340 --> 00:52:56,510 They call and he sues them. 972 00:52:56,577 --> 00:52:57,911 He fails to pay the loan. 973 00:52:57,978 --> 00:53:01,314 He publicly criticizes Deutsche Bank about all this. 974 00:53:01,381 --> 00:53:06,252 But Deutsche bank sticks with him loyally throughout. 975 00:53:06,319 --> 00:53:10,023 Not only that they also start making loans 976 00:53:10,090 --> 00:53:12,526 to his son?in?law, Jared Kushner. 977 00:53:13,860 --> 00:53:16,630 ? Deutsche Bank has been fined before 978 00:53:16,697 --> 00:53:19,399 for participating in Russian money laundering. 979 00:53:21,001 --> 00:53:22,803 ? [Reporter] The German bank says it's willing to pay 980 00:53:22,869 --> 00:53:26,439 over 600 million dollars in fines for its connections 981 00:53:26,507 --> 00:53:28,308 to alleged Russian money laundering. 982 00:53:29,643 --> 00:53:31,344 ? When the scandal erupted that Deutsche Bank 983 00:53:31,411 --> 00:53:33,614 about these money laundering operations, 984 00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:37,383 the Deutsche bank CEO was fired. 985 00:53:37,450 --> 00:53:40,320 He became the CEO of the bank of Cyprus. 986 00:53:40,386 --> 00:53:43,924 ? One of the financial institutions 987 00:53:43,990 --> 00:53:46,727 through which they launder money. 988 00:53:46,793 --> 00:53:50,564 ? [Scott] Who hired him to be the CEO of the Bank of Cyprus? 989 00:53:50,631 --> 00:53:55,068 Wilbur Ross, tight supporter of Donald Trump, 990 00:53:55,135 --> 00:53:57,838 now his Secretary of Commerce. 991 00:53:57,904 --> 00:54:01,742 ? The practice of overpaying significantly is something 992 00:54:01,808 --> 00:54:05,546 that falls into the category of Russian methods. 993 00:54:05,612 --> 00:54:06,747 ? [Scott] The man known 994 00:54:06,813 --> 00:54:08,882 as the Russian potash king, Rybolovlev, 995 00:54:08,949 --> 00:54:12,519 purchases a property for more than twice 996 00:54:12,586 --> 00:54:14,621 what Trump had paid for it. 997 00:54:15,756 --> 00:54:17,457 ? That's when our country was going through 998 00:54:17,524 --> 00:54:20,326 a financial collapse that largely was caused 999 00:54:20,393 --> 00:54:22,629 by the real estate market. 1000 00:54:22,696 --> 00:54:26,900 Did he overpay because Mr. Trump was such a great negotiator 1001 00:54:26,967 --> 00:54:29,335 or was there something else going on? 1002 00:54:29,402 --> 00:54:30,771 ? Never does anything with the property. 1003 00:54:30,837 --> 00:54:34,641 So the property transaction appears to be nothing more 1004 00:54:34,708 --> 00:54:38,444 than cover for infusing a cool 100 million dollars 1005 00:54:38,512 --> 00:54:41,014 into Trump's bank accounts. 1006 00:54:41,081 --> 00:54:45,752 This same Rybolovlev is also a principal owner 1007 00:54:45,819 --> 00:54:48,655 with Wilbur Ross of the bank of Cyprus. 1008 00:54:49,823 --> 00:54:53,026 ? In 2013 there was a bust at Trump Tower 1009 00:54:53,093 --> 00:54:55,461 of a massive gambling ring. 1010 00:54:55,529 --> 00:54:58,632 It was run by a gun named Taiwanchic. 1011 00:54:58,699 --> 00:55:02,035 He has been tied to the Russia crime boss Simeon Mogilevich. 1012 00:55:03,670 --> 00:55:06,740 29 people were indicted but Taiwanchic fled to Russia. 1013 00:55:09,976 --> 00:55:12,879 ? [Craig] Taiwanchic appeared again that year, 1014 00:55:12,946 --> 00:55:15,749 oddly enough, at the Miss Universe pageant 1015 00:55:15,816 --> 00:55:19,920 that Donald Trump was doing with Aras Agalarov. 1016 00:55:19,986 --> 00:55:22,455 ? [Michael] Billionaire oligarch who was known 1017 00:55:22,523 --> 00:55:24,390 actually as Putin's builder 1018 00:55:24,457 --> 00:55:27,794 because he had done massive construction projects 1019 00:55:27,861 --> 00:55:31,665 for the Kremlin and gotten a big award 1020 00:55:31,732 --> 00:55:34,000 personally delivered by Putin. 1021 00:55:39,039 --> 00:55:40,106 ? Donald Trump chose Moscow 1022 00:55:40,173 --> 00:55:42,609 as the place to have Miss Universe. 1023 00:55:42,676 --> 00:55:44,911 I think it would be important for us to understand 1024 00:55:44,978 --> 00:55:48,414 just who he met with while he was on that trip. 1025 00:55:48,481 --> 00:55:51,051 Whether he talked to Vladimir Putin. 1026 00:55:53,987 --> 00:55:55,856 ? There was a luncheon with 1027 00:55:55,922 --> 00:55:59,526 a lot of Russian business leaders in which Trump spoke 1028 00:55:59,593 --> 00:56:02,896 and the birthday party for Aras Agalarov. 1029 00:56:03,864 --> 00:56:06,800 ? [Scott] He even appears in the scion 1030 00:56:06,867 --> 00:56:09,870 of the Agalarov family music video. 1031 00:56:09,936 --> 00:56:10,771 ? You're fired. http://worldmkv.com/ 1032 00:56:20,947 --> 00:56:21,948 ? Compromat. 1033 00:56:22,015 --> 00:56:23,984 It's essentially embarrassing information 1034 00:56:24,050 --> 00:56:26,653 that's going to put you under somebody else's thumb. 1035 00:56:27,888 --> 00:56:30,223 ? Use money, use sex, use whatever they can 1036 00:56:30,290 --> 00:56:31,725 to try to entrap people. 1037 00:56:31,792 --> 00:56:33,794 I mean, that's just a fact. 1038 00:56:33,860 --> 00:56:36,730 ? They don't mind blowing up their own bribery scheme 1039 00:56:36,797 --> 00:56:41,167 to blackmail an individual and now they've got that person. 1040 00:56:41,234 --> 00:56:44,237 ? There's purely rumors that on his trips to Moscow 1041 00:56:44,304 --> 00:56:47,608 that Trump was involved in various sex escapades 1042 00:56:47,674 --> 00:56:49,009 that may have compromised him. 1043 00:56:54,147 --> 00:56:56,883 ? [piers] If I can offer you a check for 10 billion dollars. 1044 00:56:56,950 --> 00:56:58,151 ? [Trump] Billion. 1045 00:56:58,218 --> 00:56:59,553 ? [Piers] But the deal is you can't have sex 1046 00:56:59,620 --> 00:57:01,988 for the next 10 years. ? Would that include my wife? 1047 00:57:23,644 --> 00:57:27,213 ? Sergei Million appears in connection with Trump's dealings 1048 00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:31,618 in Russia and certainly in connection with his hotel stays 1049 00:57:31,685 --> 00:57:34,187 and someone who would know an awful lot about what went on 1050 00:57:34,254 --> 00:57:35,789 during those visits with meetings 1051 00:57:35,856 --> 00:57:37,190 with prostitutes and so forth. 1052 00:57:37,257 --> 00:57:39,292 ? You know, I was in Moscow a couple of months ago. 1053 00:57:39,359 --> 00:57:41,728 I own the Miss Universe pageant. 1054 00:57:41,795 --> 00:57:43,997 And they treated me so great. 1055 00:57:44,064 --> 00:57:45,198 Putin even sent me a present. 1056 00:57:45,265 --> 00:57:48,168 Beautiful present with a beautiful note. 1057 00:57:48,234 --> 00:57:52,005 ? When you look at Steele's report information he gives, 1058 00:57:52,973 --> 00:57:56,977 one of those sources could be Million. 1059 00:57:57,043 --> 00:57:59,613 We don't know that for sure but the descriptions match. 1060 00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:01,782 ? He likes Russia because there's money to be made there. 1061 00:58:01,848 --> 00:58:05,952 ? He likes Russia because he likes beautiful Russian ladies. 1062 00:58:06,019 --> 00:58:09,656 ? But I hear that golden showers was not the end of it. 1063 00:58:09,723 --> 00:58:12,258 There was much more extreme sick stuff. 1064 00:58:12,325 --> 00:58:14,995 ? He was only there two days one night. 1065 00:58:15,061 --> 00:58:16,997 He was supposed to be there longer 1066 00:58:17,063 --> 00:58:21,301 but Billy Graham's 95th birthday party 1067 00:58:21,367 --> 00:58:25,005 was in Asheville, North Carolina. 1068 00:58:25,071 --> 00:58:27,040 Trump felt the need to go. 1069 00:58:27,107 --> 00:58:28,374 Why? 1070 00:58:28,441 --> 00:58:31,645 Because he's getting ready to run for president. 1071 00:58:31,712 --> 00:58:35,048 ?? Happy birthday to you ?? 1072 00:58:38,819 --> 00:58:40,286 ? To be honest, the question was just asked 1073 00:58:40,353 --> 00:58:42,989 or was asked many times today at the Miss Universe contest. 1074 00:58:43,056 --> 00:58:46,059 They said would you run, and it's just too soon to say. 1075 00:58:46,126 --> 00:58:48,695 ? [Reporter] Do you have a relationship with Vladimir Putin, 1076 00:58:48,762 --> 00:58:52,899 a conversational relationship or anything that you feel 1077 00:58:52,966 --> 00:58:56,269 you have sway or influence over his government? 1078 00:58:56,336 --> 00:59:00,006 ? I do have a relationship and I can tell you 1079 00:59:00,073 --> 00:59:02,308 that he's very interested in what we're doing here today. 1080 00:59:02,375 --> 00:59:03,409 He's probably very interested 1081 00:59:03,476 --> 00:59:04,811 in what you and I are saying today 1082 00:59:04,878 --> 00:59:07,147 and I'm sure he's going to be seeing it in some form. 1083 00:59:07,213 --> 00:59:08,782 But I do have a relationship with him. 1084 00:59:08,849 --> 00:59:09,950 ? About Russia. 1085 00:59:10,016 --> 00:59:12,085 You were asked yesterday if you've ever spoken 1086 00:59:12,152 --> 00:59:15,922 to Vladimir Putin and you said I don't want to say. 1087 00:59:15,989 --> 00:59:17,223 ? Yeah, I have no comment on that. 1088 00:59:17,290 --> 00:59:17,924 No comment. 1089 00:59:17,991 --> 00:59:19,092 I was in Russia?? 1090 00:59:19,159 --> 00:59:20,293 ? Well one of the things people like about you 1091 00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:22,696 is you answer any questions. ? Yeah, but. 1092 00:59:22,763 --> 00:59:24,130 Let's assume I did. 1093 00:59:24,197 --> 00:59:25,932 Perhaps it was personal or, you know, I don't want to, 1094 00:59:25,999 --> 00:59:28,702 I don't want to hurt his confidence. 1095 00:59:28,769 --> 00:59:31,137 He's done a very brilliant job in terms 1096 00:59:31,204 --> 00:59:34,841 of what he represents and who he's representing. 1097 00:59:38,078 --> 00:59:39,445 ? Viktor Yanukovich had been in talks 1098 00:59:39,513 --> 00:59:42,983 with the European Union about an association agreement 1099 00:59:43,049 --> 00:59:46,953 but then after a visit to Moscow and getting the message 1100 00:59:47,020 --> 00:59:50,256 that this was not going to be seen favorably, 1101 00:59:50,323 --> 00:59:52,258 Yanukovich came back and decided that 1102 00:59:52,325 --> 00:59:54,695 in fact he was not gonna pursue this agreement. 1103 00:59:54,761 --> 00:59:57,030 So this square in downtown Kiev, 1104 00:59:57,097 --> 00:59:59,299 protestors went there and began demanding that, in fact, 1105 00:59:59,365 --> 01:00:00,667 this agreement go into force, 1106 01:00:00,734 --> 01:00:03,670 instead of some alternative agreement with Russia. 1107 01:00:06,072 --> 01:00:09,676 They protest not just in favor of an agreement 1108 01:00:09,743 --> 01:00:10,877 with the European Union 1109 01:00:10,944 --> 01:00:13,446 but a protest against Viktor Yanukovich 1110 01:00:13,514 --> 01:00:16,683 and the way he was running things at the time. 1111 01:00:18,218 --> 01:00:20,186 ? About a week later the police went in 1112 01:00:20,253 --> 01:00:21,221 and broke up that camp. 1113 01:00:27,127 --> 01:00:30,230 In two hours shed more blood than had been shed 1114 01:00:30,296 --> 01:00:34,134 during the entire Orange Revolution back in 2004. 1115 01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:35,368 ? And at each turn, 1116 01:00:35,435 --> 01:00:38,138 Yanukovich became more and more repressive, 1117 01:00:38,204 --> 01:00:39,740 more and more bloodthirsty. 1118 01:00:46,379 --> 01:00:48,181 ? You had people shooting into the crowd. 1119 01:00:48,248 --> 01:00:50,316 In some cases directly shot to the head 1120 01:00:50,383 --> 01:00:53,219 where like snipers were shooting at them. 1121 01:00:53,286 --> 01:00:55,756 (guns firing) 1122 01:00:59,192 --> 01:01:02,328 Probably 100, you know, odd people killed. 1123 01:01:10,036 --> 01:01:13,306 ? He just infuriated and enraged his entire country. 1124 01:01:25,485 --> 01:01:28,221 ? [Reporter] Yanukovich defied calls for his resignation. 1125 01:01:28,288 --> 01:01:32,258 ? I am not going to leave Ukraine or go anywhere. 1126 01:01:32,325 --> 01:01:34,928 ? Yanukovich packed up in a car and left. 1127 01:01:39,199 --> 01:01:41,367 He fled the country and turned up in Russia. 1128 01:01:43,469 --> 01:01:45,939 ? And this is while Manafort is still advising him. 1129 01:01:46,006 --> 01:01:48,942 ? I don't think that Yanukovich was the pro?Putin person 1130 01:01:49,009 --> 01:01:51,411 that he's reputed to be and if you look at what?? 1131 01:01:51,477 --> 01:01:52,546 ? [Charlie] Well, he went off. 1132 01:01:52,613 --> 01:01:54,447 He ended up in Moscow. ? Well, yeah. 1133 01:01:54,515 --> 01:01:56,249 ? [Reporter] The ousted president is wanted 1134 01:01:56,316 --> 01:01:58,084 for mass murder and on the run. 1135 01:01:58,151 --> 01:01:59,485 ? So you have the Ukrainian parliament. 1136 01:01:59,553 --> 01:02:01,087 What do we do? 1137 01:02:01,154 --> 01:02:02,188 ? [Reporter] Parliament voted 1138 01:02:02,255 --> 01:02:04,290 to free Yanukovych's arch nemesis, 1139 01:02:04,357 --> 01:02:06,259 opposition leader Yulia Tymoshenko. 1140 01:02:08,494 --> 01:02:11,264 ? Today you have an open road to build Ukraine 1141 01:02:11,331 --> 01:02:12,733 the way you want. 1142 01:02:12,799 --> 01:02:15,836 That is why you must stay here until the person you trust 1143 01:02:15,902 --> 01:02:18,271 is elected in an honest way. 1144 01:02:18,338 --> 01:02:20,974 ? My sense is at that point the Russians panicked. 1145 01:02:23,610 --> 01:02:25,879 The Russians had lying in a safe somewhere 1146 01:02:25,946 --> 01:02:29,349 the plan how you take Crimea and they activated that plan. 1147 01:02:33,419 --> 01:02:35,956 Within a couple of days you saw people 1148 01:02:36,022 --> 01:02:38,124 who were very clearly professional soldiers. 1149 01:02:38,191 --> 01:02:40,260 They were wearing Russian style combat fatigues 1150 01:02:40,326 --> 01:02:42,262 but they had no identifying insignia. 1151 01:02:42,328 --> 01:02:45,298 The Ukrainians referred to these people as little green men. 1152 01:02:45,365 --> 01:02:48,201 ? [Richard] Which were in fact special operations forces 1153 01:02:48,268 --> 01:02:50,036 and intelligence operatives. 1154 01:02:51,237 --> 01:02:53,373 ? We thought this could be the beginning 1155 01:02:53,439 --> 01:02:56,409 of an outright full scale invasion of the country. 1156 01:02:58,579 --> 01:03:01,481 That's when the separatists shot down the Malaysian airliner 1157 01:03:01,548 --> 01:03:04,384 and killed over 100 Dutch passengers. 1158 01:03:05,919 --> 01:03:08,288 ? [Richard] Separatists initially boasted on Twitter 1159 01:03:08,354 --> 01:03:10,490 that they had taken it down. 1160 01:03:10,557 --> 01:03:14,094 ? The unforgivable sin was Putin lying about it. 1161 01:03:15,495 --> 01:03:19,432 Suggesting Ukrainians shot it down or CIA shot it down. 1162 01:03:19,499 --> 01:03:22,202 Throwing out a bunch of chafe which was an insult. 1163 01:03:23,436 --> 01:03:26,239 The European Union had had enough. 1164 01:03:26,306 --> 01:03:29,175 They joined us with strong sectoral sanctions. 1165 01:03:29,242 --> 01:03:30,977 And that surprised the Russians 1166 01:03:31,044 --> 01:03:33,246 and it hit the Russian economy hard 1167 01:03:33,313 --> 01:03:36,449 right at the time oil prices started to tank. 1168 01:03:36,517 --> 01:03:38,218 So they had a double whammy. 1169 01:03:38,284 --> 01:03:39,452 ? How do you respond 1170 01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:43,289 to the greatest geo strategic catastrophe 1171 01:03:43,356 --> 01:03:44,525 of the 20th century, 1172 01:03:44,591 --> 01:03:47,060 which was the collapse of the Soviet Union? 1173 01:03:47,127 --> 01:03:50,396 You try to preempt the collapse of the western system 1174 01:03:50,463 --> 01:03:52,098 in the 21st century. 1175 01:03:53,667 --> 01:03:56,937 If you can't destroy these structures militarily, 1176 01:03:57,003 --> 01:03:59,372 you will destroy them from within. 1177 01:03:59,439 --> 01:04:02,509 ? By actually creating fissures and exploiting them 1178 01:04:02,576 --> 01:04:05,345 such that it's the electorate is so divided 1179 01:04:05,411 --> 01:04:08,414 that you don't trust the government anymore. 1180 01:04:08,481 --> 01:04:10,116 ? The foundations of geopolitics 1181 01:04:10,183 --> 01:04:12,218 is a guiding principle for Russia. 1182 01:04:12,285 --> 01:04:14,320 It's something that their militaries 1183 01:04:14,387 --> 01:04:16,690 and intelligence services have relied upon 1184 01:04:16,757 --> 01:04:18,892 and applied throughout their campaigns. 1185 01:04:30,737 --> 01:04:34,207 ? Russia has helped unite an alternative right movement. 1186 01:04:34,274 --> 01:04:36,476 ? You have certain voices in the media. 1187 01:04:36,543 --> 01:04:39,479 Info Wars, for example, Breitbart to capitalize 1188 01:04:39,546 --> 01:04:41,414 on these divisions. 1189 01:04:41,481 --> 01:04:45,451 And then further encourage them for their own personal gain. 1190 01:04:45,519 --> 01:04:47,721 ? I'd like to punch him in the face, I'll tell ya. 1191 01:04:47,788 --> 01:04:50,390 Knock the crap out of him, would you, seriously. 1192 01:04:51,525 --> 01:04:53,359 That guy looked like an NFL football player. 1193 01:04:53,426 --> 01:04:54,427 Now, they took him out. 1194 01:04:54,494 --> 01:04:55,295 And I'll tell you what. 1195 01:04:55,361 --> 01:04:57,531 It was really amazing to watch. 1196 01:04:57,598 --> 01:04:58,231 Bye. 1197 01:04:58,298 --> 01:04:59,633 Go home to mommy. 1198 01:04:59,700 --> 01:05:02,002 But if we get a little bit rough in taking them out, 1199 01:05:02,068 --> 01:05:03,469 oh, we're terrible people. 1200 01:05:03,537 --> 01:05:06,239 It's one of the many reasons our country's going to hell. 1201 01:05:06,306 --> 01:05:08,074 ? Certainly this is all in the interest 1202 01:05:08,141 --> 01:05:10,511 of at least one country. 1203 01:05:10,577 --> 01:05:15,015 ? To see this otherwise rather brazen candidate 1204 01:05:16,583 --> 01:05:21,588 turn into such a sycophant when the name of Putin 1205 01:05:22,556 --> 01:05:25,626 ever came up rang a very discordant bell. 1206 01:05:25,692 --> 01:05:28,094 ? Putin has done an amazing job 1207 01:05:28,161 --> 01:05:31,264 of showing leadership whether it's a noble or cause or not. 1208 01:05:31,331 --> 01:05:32,132 Let's not discuss that. 1209 01:05:32,198 --> 01:05:33,499 He is now the world leader. 1210 01:05:33,567 --> 01:05:34,735 I respect Putin. 1211 01:05:34,801 --> 01:05:36,502 He's a strong leader, I can tell you that. 1212 01:05:36,570 --> 01:05:37,337 Unlike what we have. 1213 01:05:37,403 --> 01:05:38,705 We have a pathetic leader. 1214 01:05:38,772 --> 01:05:42,108 I think in terms of leadership, he's getting an A. 1215 01:05:42,175 --> 01:05:44,177 ? As far as an individual 1216 01:05:44,244 --> 01:05:47,413 who poses a threat to the world literally. 1217 01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:50,517 A person who has no moral standards 1218 01:05:50,584 --> 01:05:52,485 that I've been able to detect. 1219 01:05:52,553 --> 01:05:54,320 F is not low enough. 1220 01:05:54,387 --> 01:05:56,456 ? He was certainly very vocal about Russia, 1221 01:05:56,523 --> 01:05:57,724 wanting a better relationship. 1222 01:05:57,791 --> 01:05:59,660 ? Wouldn't it be a wonderful thing, frankly, 1223 01:05:59,726 --> 01:06:02,162 if we actually got along with Russia? 1224 01:06:02,228 --> 01:06:04,030 ? Who's against getting along with people 1225 01:06:04,097 --> 01:06:05,532 but that's not a policy. 1226 01:06:05,599 --> 01:06:08,535 ? More noticeable perhaps is the absence of any criticism. 1227 01:06:08,602 --> 01:06:10,436 ? The fact is that, you know, 1228 01:06:10,503 --> 01:06:12,038 he hasn't been convicted of anything. 1229 01:06:12,105 --> 01:06:13,473 ? Some of the things he was saying 1230 01:06:13,540 --> 01:06:17,578 was actually talking points that sounded very similar 1231 01:06:17,644 --> 01:06:20,046 to what the Russian media will put out there. 1232 01:06:20,113 --> 01:06:20,914 ? [Reporter] The fact that Ukraine 1233 01:06:20,981 --> 01:06:22,415 has not published radar data 1234 01:06:22,482 --> 01:06:24,518 leads us to the conjecture the missiles, 1235 01:06:24,585 --> 01:06:26,653 if it was a buk, was launched from territory 1236 01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:29,222 under the control of the Ukrainian military. 1237 01:06:29,289 --> 01:06:31,658 ? If it was a Russian made buk missile that took down 1238 01:06:31,725 --> 01:06:35,428 that plane would you hold Putin and Russia accountable? 1239 01:06:35,495 --> 01:06:36,663 Would there be sanctions? 1240 01:06:36,730 --> 01:06:38,098 ? Well, you know, they say it wasn't them. 1241 01:06:38,164 --> 01:06:39,800 It may have been their weapon but they didn't use it. 1242 01:06:39,866 --> 01:06:41,201 They didn't fire it. 1243 01:06:41,267 --> 01:06:43,436 They even said the other side fired it to blame them. 1244 01:06:43,503 --> 01:06:45,672 ? He never provided his original birth certificate. 1245 01:06:45,739 --> 01:06:50,243 What he provided was a photoshopped computer image 1246 01:06:50,310 --> 01:06:54,080 of something that was issued only in 2007. 1247 01:06:54,147 --> 01:06:57,651 ? A certificate of live birth is not even signed by anybody. 1248 01:06:57,718 --> 01:06:58,484 I saw his. 1249 01:06:58,552 --> 01:06:59,720 I read it very carefully. 1250 01:06:59,786 --> 01:07:01,588 ? They're voting for peace on planet earth 1251 01:07:01,655 --> 01:07:02,756 if they vote for Trump. 1252 01:07:02,823 --> 01:07:06,326 But if they vote for Hillary, it's war. 1253 01:07:06,392 --> 01:07:10,263 ? Now Hillary Clinton wants to confront nuclear?armed Russia 1254 01:07:10,330 --> 01:07:13,233 that could very well lead us into World War III. 1255 01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:16,336 ? Mr. McCain was taken prisoner in Vietnam 1256 01:07:16,402 --> 01:07:19,506 and was put not just in jail but in a pit. 1257 01:07:19,573 --> 01:07:21,374 He sat there for several years. 1258 01:07:21,441 --> 01:07:23,610 Anyone would go nuts after that. 1259 01:07:23,677 --> 01:07:25,846 ? He's a war hero 'cause he was captured. 1260 01:07:25,912 --> 01:07:27,614 I like people that weren't captured, okay, 1261 01:07:27,681 --> 01:07:28,749 I hate to tell you. 1262 01:07:30,183 --> 01:07:32,452 ? Donald Trump delivered a major foreign policy speech 1263 01:07:32,519 --> 01:07:35,622 at the Mayflower Hotel in Washington on April 27. 1264 01:07:35,689 --> 01:07:37,357 The center for the national interest, 1265 01:07:37,423 --> 01:07:38,559 this American Think Tank, 1266 01:07:38,625 --> 01:07:41,427 which has very close ties to the Kremlin. 1267 01:07:41,494 --> 01:07:44,565 This Think Tank played a leading role 1268 01:07:44,631 --> 01:07:47,701 in drafting Donald Trump's speech 1269 01:07:47,768 --> 01:07:51,638 and that speech was full of Russian propaganda. 1270 01:07:51,705 --> 01:07:54,608 ? We can upgrade NATO's outdated mission 1271 01:07:54,675 --> 01:07:57,711 and structure grown out of the Cold War. 1272 01:07:57,778 --> 01:08:01,582 I am skeptical of international unions. 1273 01:08:01,648 --> 01:08:03,784 The U. S. must be prepared 1274 01:08:03,850 --> 01:08:07,554 to let these countries defend themselves. 1275 01:08:07,621 --> 01:08:11,191 Some say the Russians won't be reasonable. 1276 01:08:11,257 --> 01:08:12,826 I intend to find out. 1277 01:08:15,796 --> 01:08:18,932 ? When Paul Manafort became the actual head of the campaign 1278 01:08:18,999 --> 01:08:20,233 all of a sudden I had a pop up window 1279 01:08:20,300 --> 01:08:23,236 come on my computer saying that Yahoo believed 1280 01:08:23,303 --> 01:08:26,372 that I was part of an attempt of state sponsored actors. 1281 01:08:27,307 --> 01:08:29,510 So I was being targeted. 1282 01:08:29,576 --> 01:08:31,177 That was the first time. 1283 01:08:32,679 --> 01:08:36,349 ? There was a Russian campaign to interfere 1284 01:08:36,416 --> 01:08:38,585 in American elections through hacking. 1285 01:08:38,652 --> 01:08:40,854 That information appeared in the dossier 1286 01:08:40,921 --> 01:08:44,424 before it was publicly reported anywhere else, anywhere. 1287 01:08:44,490 --> 01:08:45,559 ? You saw active measures 1288 01:08:45,626 --> 01:08:48,595 in elections across eastern Europe. 1289 01:08:48,662 --> 01:08:50,664 No one really thought that that would happen 1290 01:08:50,731 --> 01:08:53,534 in the U. S. base until it did. 1291 01:08:58,939 --> 01:09:03,644 ? I was surprised as everyone was but looking back on it 1292 01:09:03,710 --> 01:09:05,946 with benefit of hindsight, obviously, 1293 01:09:06,012 --> 01:09:07,548 we should have probably known 1294 01:09:07,614 --> 01:09:10,817 that something like that was going to happen. 1295 01:09:10,884 --> 01:09:13,486 ? Russia is 1.6% of the world economy. 1296 01:09:16,623 --> 01:09:20,927 They're so small but they have, they're so centralized. 1297 01:09:24,531 --> 01:09:26,700 And when state concentrates these resources 1298 01:09:26,767 --> 01:09:30,571 on wanting something then it works. 1299 01:09:30,637 --> 01:09:33,173 ? Russia did a wide range of hacks. 1300 01:09:34,875 --> 01:09:38,444 Started I would guess around August, September of 2015, 1301 01:09:38,512 --> 01:09:39,813 extended all the way through the spring 1302 01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:42,583 and into the summer of 2016. 1303 01:09:42,649 --> 01:09:45,619 We're talking about thousands of Americans that were hit. 1304 01:09:45,686 --> 01:09:48,589 They were going after anybody and everybody they could. 1305 01:09:48,655 --> 01:09:51,725 Their targets include media personalities, politicians, 1306 01:09:51,792 --> 01:09:53,694 government officials, current and former. 1307 01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:56,797 Anybody that they could gain what is ultimately information 1308 01:09:56,863 --> 01:09:59,465 or compromat that they could use. 1309 01:09:59,533 --> 01:10:00,734 That is the nuclear fuel 1310 01:10:00,801 --> 01:10:03,269 that powers the influence operation in '16. 1311 01:10:03,336 --> 01:10:06,372 ? A couple of my co?workers who had access 1312 01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:09,042 to my personal email used to manage the volume. 1313 01:10:09,109 --> 01:10:12,345 One of them saw a phishing attempt 1314 01:10:12,412 --> 01:10:16,517 from a Google source through some mistake of communication. 1315 01:10:16,583 --> 01:10:20,687 One of our cyber security experts in the campaign suggested 1316 01:10:20,754 --> 01:10:23,323 to my assistant that they change their email account. 1317 01:10:23,389 --> 01:10:27,728 So she clicked on the link and my private email cache 1318 01:10:27,794 --> 01:10:30,330 was, you know, was exfiltrated. 1319 01:10:33,734 --> 01:10:37,303 ? People were seeing this dangerous troubling activity 1320 01:10:37,370 --> 01:10:39,706 coming from the Russians that was actually 1321 01:10:39,773 --> 01:10:42,442 in our electoral system. 1322 01:10:42,509 --> 01:10:43,677 ? Government officials learned that they're 1323 01:10:43,744 --> 01:10:48,882 actually going into state voter databases. 1324 01:10:49,883 --> 01:10:51,785 ? There may have been 26 different states 1325 01:10:51,852 --> 01:10:54,054 where there were efforts made to penetrate. 1326 01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:56,456 That's disturbing. 1327 01:10:56,523 --> 01:11:00,594 The key to flip an election without leaving a trace 1328 01:11:00,661 --> 01:11:02,796 is the voter rolls. 1329 01:11:02,863 --> 01:11:06,933 ? It would only take a small digital switch 1330 01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:08,835 to make that happen. 1331 01:11:08,902 --> 01:11:13,574 This really spooked officials in the White House 1332 01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:18,579 and that's the moment I think that the enormity 1333 01:11:18,645 --> 01:11:21,782 of the Russian influence campaign 1334 01:11:21,848 --> 01:11:24,618 really started to hit home. 1335 01:11:24,685 --> 01:11:26,953 ? The fact that there was that attack 1336 01:11:27,020 --> 01:11:29,956 on the fundamental, the absolute fundamental 1337 01:11:30,023 --> 01:11:34,460 free and fair election should have alarmed all of us. 1338 01:11:34,528 --> 01:11:36,730 ? The Russians didn't care if we found out. 1339 01:11:36,797 --> 01:11:37,898 This is pretty new. 1340 01:11:37,964 --> 01:11:39,399 ? They stole the data. 1341 01:11:39,465 --> 01:11:40,266 Let's be clear about it. 1342 01:11:40,333 --> 01:11:41,367 I don't like this word hacking. 1343 01:11:41,434 --> 01:11:42,903 This is theft. 1344 01:11:42,969 --> 01:11:45,806 If the Russians walked into my house and took something out, 1345 01:11:45,872 --> 01:11:47,841 this is exactly the same thing. 1346 01:11:47,908 --> 01:11:50,476 And I think the problem that a lot of Americans have with it 1347 01:11:50,544 --> 01:11:53,413 is they don't see it, they don't think of it that way. 1348 01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:55,782 ? The goal was plausible deniability. 1349 01:11:55,849 --> 01:11:58,619 And you hear that even in Vladimir Putin's statements. 1350 01:11:58,685 --> 01:11:59,753 ? If they are patriotic, 1351 01:11:59,820 --> 01:12:01,988 they contribute in a way they think is right. 1352 01:12:02,055 --> 01:12:05,692 To fight against those who say bad things about Russia. 1353 01:12:05,759 --> 01:12:07,661 ? If there were people in the Trump Campaign 1354 01:12:07,728 --> 01:12:08,895 who colluded in any of that, 1355 01:12:08,962 --> 01:12:11,732 those people are at serious criminal risk 1356 01:12:11,798 --> 01:12:16,169 because there were serious crimes people committed in 2016 1357 01:12:16,236 --> 01:12:18,839 to influence the U. S. elections. 1358 01:12:18,905 --> 01:12:20,173 ? Once it looked like Trump 1359 01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:22,943 was gonna be the clear nominee, the Agalarovs resurfaced 1360 01:12:23,009 --> 01:12:25,746 and they said we are obviously supportive 1361 01:12:25,812 --> 01:12:27,380 of the Trump Campaign but more importantly, 1362 01:12:27,447 --> 01:12:29,883 we are doing so with the blessing of the Russian government 1363 01:12:29,950 --> 01:12:32,018 and with the Russian government involved. 1364 01:12:35,021 --> 01:12:37,924 ? And they promised there would be the delivery 1365 01:12:37,991 --> 01:12:41,628 of information that would damage Hillary Clinton's campaign. 1366 01:12:42,495 --> 01:12:43,564 ? [Man] This is information 1367 01:12:43,630 --> 01:12:45,131 the Russian government has collected. 1368 01:12:48,969 --> 01:12:53,073 ? Donald Trump, Jr. emailed back, great, I love it. 1369 01:12:54,741 --> 01:12:57,110 Here we see what appears to be evidence of collusion. 1370 01:12:58,845 --> 01:13:02,616 ? [Michael] Donald Trump, Jr. forwarded the emails 1371 01:13:02,683 --> 01:13:04,985 to Paul Manafort, then the campaign manager, 1372 01:13:05,051 --> 01:13:07,487 and Jared Kushner. 1373 01:13:07,554 --> 01:13:10,090 They both sat in on the meeting. 1374 01:13:11,224 --> 01:13:13,794 ? Conspiracies are very easy to enter into. 1375 01:13:13,860 --> 01:13:16,930 If indeed there was just a tacit agreement 1376 01:13:16,997 --> 01:13:20,066 furthering that conspiracy, boy, they're in. 1377 01:13:21,001 --> 01:13:23,069 And they're on the wrong side of the law. 1378 01:13:25,972 --> 01:13:30,977 ? Trump being pressed early on in the campion 1379 01:13:32,078 --> 01:13:34,014 for a list of his foreign policy advisors. 1380 01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:39,085 The second name he mentions is Carter Page, PhD. 1381 01:13:40,253 --> 01:13:41,855 ? No one had heard of Carter Page. 1382 01:13:41,922 --> 01:13:44,257 He had worked for Merrill Lynch in Moscow. 1383 01:13:44,324 --> 01:13:47,894 ? [Michael] He had been an investor in Gazprom 1384 01:13:47,961 --> 01:13:52,766 and a quite vocal defender of the Putin government. 1385 01:13:52,833 --> 01:13:55,569 A critic of sanctions. 1386 01:13:55,636 --> 01:13:58,004 ? Carter Page traveled over to Moscow 1387 01:13:58,071 --> 01:14:00,006 with permission of the Trump campaign 1388 01:14:00,073 --> 01:14:02,075 as a senior advisor to Donald Trump. 1389 01:14:02,142 --> 01:14:05,178 ? Washington and other western capitals 1390 01:14:05,245 --> 01:14:07,848 have impeded potential progress 1391 01:14:07,914 --> 01:14:11,952 through their often hypocritical focus on ideas 1392 01:14:12,018 --> 01:14:15,055 such as democratization, inequality, 1393 01:14:15,121 --> 01:14:16,890 corruption, and regime change. 1394 01:14:16,957 --> 01:14:19,726 ? [Craig] The Steele Dossier alleges that Carter Page 1395 01:14:19,793 --> 01:14:22,763 met with Igor Sechin who is head of Rozneft, 1396 01:14:22,829 --> 01:14:25,165 the enormous Russian oil company. 1397 01:14:27,033 --> 01:14:30,203 Sechin happens to be very, very close to Vladimir Putin. 1398 01:14:30,270 --> 01:14:31,838 ? [Scott] Sechin was his closest friend 1399 01:14:31,905 --> 01:14:33,173 in the intelligence services. 1400 01:14:34,340 --> 01:14:36,009 ? They came up with a scheme 1401 01:14:36,076 --> 01:14:39,045 by which sanctions would be lifted on Russia. 1402 01:14:40,246 --> 01:14:43,884 In return, when parts of Rozneft were sold off, 1403 01:14:43,950 --> 01:14:47,053 a huge portion of it, I believe was 19% of it, 1404 01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:48,154 would be diverted. 1405 01:14:50,123 --> 01:14:51,592 ? This could have been another way 1406 01:14:51,658 --> 01:14:55,161 to funnel enormous cash resources 1407 01:14:55,228 --> 01:14:57,130 to Donald Trump or his family. 1408 01:14:59,866 --> 01:15:03,036 America's European allies were picking up things 1409 01:15:03,103 --> 01:15:06,940 involving interaction between the figures associated 1410 01:15:07,007 --> 01:15:11,144 with the Trump Campaign and Russian agents of influence 1411 01:15:11,211 --> 01:15:13,246 that they were very disturbed about. 1412 01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:30,030 ? When the administration asked for a bipartisan statement 1413 01:15:30,096 --> 01:15:31,431 saying that Russians were active 1414 01:15:31,497 --> 01:15:33,734 and they were trying to interfere with the election 1415 01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:35,869 they were blocked by Republican leadership. 1416 01:15:35,936 --> 01:15:38,672 ? When I was working in the House of Representatives, 1417 01:15:38,739 --> 01:15:41,141 especially as the Policy Director for the House Republicans, 1418 01:15:41,207 --> 01:15:43,677 I was part of many discussions. 1419 01:15:43,744 --> 01:15:46,046 One of them was on June 15. 1420 01:15:46,112 --> 01:15:48,749 One of the leaders speculated that Trump 1421 01:15:48,815 --> 01:15:51,217 had a compromising relationship with Putin, 1422 01:15:54,187 --> 01:15:56,322 a very serious allegation to make 1423 01:15:56,389 --> 01:15:59,225 but it was one that everyone was thinking. 1424 01:16:04,364 --> 01:16:07,033 The leaders were afraid to stand up to Donald Trump 1425 01:16:07,100 --> 01:16:12,105 for fear of being attacked by his Russian troll army. 1426 01:16:29,089 --> 01:16:31,124 ? [Michael] By the time of the convention, 1427 01:16:31,191 --> 01:16:32,325 it was beginning to look 1428 01:16:32,392 --> 01:16:36,797 like there was a really serious Russian effort. 1429 01:16:44,204 --> 01:16:45,739 ? She is above the law. 1430 01:16:45,806 --> 01:16:47,140 ? [Michael] Michael Flynn had become 1431 01:16:47,207 --> 01:16:51,311 a top national security advisor to Trump. 1432 01:16:51,377 --> 01:16:52,212 ? Lock her up. 1433 01:16:55,181 --> 01:16:56,149 ? What concerns me again 1434 01:16:56,216 --> 01:16:57,383 from a counter intelligence perspective 1435 01:16:57,450 --> 01:16:58,785 is the pattern that Flynn has established. 1436 01:16:58,852 --> 01:17:01,888 Flynn goes to Moscow and sits next to Vladimir Putin 1437 01:17:01,955 --> 01:17:04,691 in a lavish RT s ponsored event. 1438 01:17:04,758 --> 01:17:05,926 Just like in the United States, 1439 01:17:05,992 --> 01:17:07,160 you don't get to sit next to the president 1440 01:17:07,227 --> 01:17:08,995 of the United States without any planning. 1441 01:17:10,230 --> 01:17:12,298 He takes money from the Russians, from RT, 1442 01:17:12,365 --> 01:17:15,068 which is nothing more than a propaganda arm of the Kremlin. 1443 01:17:15,135 --> 01:17:16,336 Then says he didn't take any money. 1444 01:17:16,402 --> 01:17:19,005 ? [Reporter] Were you paid for that amount? 1445 01:17:19,072 --> 01:17:22,709 ? You have to ask my, the folks that went over there to?? 1446 01:17:22,776 --> 01:17:23,844 ? I'm asking you. 1447 01:17:23,910 --> 01:17:25,011 You'd know if you were paid. 1448 01:17:25,078 --> 01:17:26,446 ? I didn't take any money from Russia 1449 01:17:26,513 --> 01:17:28,048 if that's what you're asking me. 1450 01:17:28,114 --> 01:17:29,149 ? Well then who paid you? 1451 01:17:29,215 --> 01:17:31,017 ? My Speaker's Bureau. 1452 01:17:31,084 --> 01:17:33,419 ? The Speakers Bureau is merely the pass through 1453 01:17:33,486 --> 01:17:37,924 for the organization that's paying for the speech. 1454 01:17:37,991 --> 01:17:40,326 Flynn had given the same answer 1455 01:17:40,393 --> 01:17:43,229 when he was trying to get his security clearance. 1456 01:17:46,066 --> 01:17:48,268 ? At that convention, the Republican party did something 1457 01:17:48,334 --> 01:17:50,937 that they almost have never done before 1458 01:17:51,004 --> 01:17:53,239 which was take out of their platform, 1459 01:17:53,306 --> 01:17:55,842 language that was standing up for Ukraine 1460 01:17:55,909 --> 01:17:57,944 and standing against Russia. 1461 01:17:58,011 --> 01:17:59,746 ? I was confident that was gonna be 1462 01:17:59,813 --> 01:18:01,281 a part of our party platform. 1463 01:18:01,347 --> 01:18:02,516 It was before. 1464 01:18:02,583 --> 01:18:06,152 All of a sudden somewhere it disappeared. 1465 01:18:06,219 --> 01:18:08,421 ? J. D. Gordon, his account is that it was 1466 01:18:08,488 --> 01:18:10,891 at the request of the Trump Campaign. 1467 01:18:10,957 --> 01:18:15,495 ? And I think that's part of this whole scandal 1468 01:18:15,562 --> 01:18:17,531 that needs to be resolved. 1469 01:18:17,598 --> 01:18:21,367 Why would the Republican party remove 1470 01:18:21,434 --> 01:18:26,106 a provision that would help people who had been invaded 1471 01:18:26,172 --> 01:18:28,975 and slaughtered defend themselves? 1472 01:18:29,042 --> 01:18:29,876 Interesting. 1473 01:18:44,090 --> 01:18:46,159 ? When we went into the convention, 1474 01:18:46,226 --> 01:18:49,095 we had to contend with that first drop of emails. 1475 01:18:49,162 --> 01:18:51,798 ? Just that the DNC employee?? ? It's Russia. 1476 01:18:51,865 --> 01:18:52,966 Adverse. 1477 01:18:53,033 --> 01:18:54,067 They were in communication or in touch 1478 01:18:54,134 --> 01:18:57,403 with Julian Assange at Wikileaks. 1479 01:18:57,470 --> 01:18:59,573 ? And then they published that data in a way 1480 01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:03,143 to help Trump and hurt Hillary Clinton. 1481 01:19:03,209 --> 01:19:05,145 ? When Wikileaks was originally founded 1482 01:19:05,211 --> 01:19:09,115 I don't think it had the intention of influencing 1483 01:19:09,182 --> 01:19:13,053 the 2016 American election but was it the goal 1484 01:19:13,119 --> 01:19:16,356 after Assange announced that he wanted to harm Hillary. 1485 01:19:16,422 --> 01:19:17,257 You bet. 1486 01:19:18,258 --> 01:19:19,425 I mean, he said so. 1487 01:19:20,827 --> 01:19:22,863 From that standpoint, it was a match made in heaven. 1488 01:19:24,330 --> 01:19:28,201 ? [John] They were actively in the systems of Democratic 1489 01:19:28,268 --> 01:19:31,137 and as we now know Republicans as well. 1490 01:19:31,204 --> 01:19:33,239 ? We'll publish the embarrassing material 1491 01:19:33,306 --> 01:19:35,542 from the hack into the DNC. 1492 01:19:35,609 --> 01:19:39,345 We won't publish the embarrassing material in the RNC. 1493 01:19:39,412 --> 01:19:41,114 ? There were more damaging ones on Manafort 1494 01:19:41,181 --> 01:19:41,982 that they could have dropped. 1495 01:19:42,048 --> 01:19:43,449 They didn't. 1496 01:19:43,517 --> 01:19:46,620 It really exposed a lot of personal contact information. 1497 01:19:46,687 --> 01:19:49,856 So many staff were getting harassment calls for weeks. 1498 01:19:49,923 --> 01:19:53,093 ? As we learned more first about the DNC, 1499 01:19:53,159 --> 01:19:57,564 he basically invited them to try to, you know, hack into me. 1500 01:19:57,631 --> 01:20:00,967 ? He blurts things out that sound to me 1501 01:20:01,034 --> 01:20:05,338 as a prosecutor almost like an effort to confess. 1502 01:20:05,405 --> 01:20:08,474 ? Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able 1503 01:20:08,542 --> 01:20:13,547 to find the 30,000 emails that are missing. 1504 01:20:14,948 --> 01:20:19,252 ? If you were in fact conspiring with Russia 1505 01:20:20,420 --> 01:20:22,889 and encouraging them to help your campaign 1506 01:20:22,956 --> 01:20:25,559 and signaling them as to what you wanted them to do... 1507 01:20:25,626 --> 01:20:27,260 ? I think you will probably 1508 01:20:27,327 --> 01:20:30,063 be rewarded mightily by our press. 1509 01:20:32,298 --> 01:20:36,236 ? There's a pretty good suggestion right there 1510 01:20:36,302 --> 01:20:38,539 but in this case made in plain view in open daylight 1511 01:20:38,605 --> 01:20:41,307 at high noon, it's a little odd. 1512 01:20:46,112 --> 01:20:47,313 ? Campaign was over. 1513 01:20:47,380 --> 01:20:48,448 Bernie had lost. 1514 01:20:48,515 --> 01:20:51,317 I was assisting in helping with 1515 01:20:51,384 --> 01:20:54,354 a number of Facebook pages here in California. 1516 01:20:54,420 --> 01:20:57,924 I started to see strange people appearing. 1517 01:20:57,991 --> 01:21:02,295 Their posts were coming from American sounding websites 1518 01:21:02,362 --> 01:21:05,999 but when I peeled away the layers, 1519 01:21:06,066 --> 01:21:08,334 eastern Europe became a common theme. 1520 01:21:09,502 --> 01:21:12,105 They were propaganda pieces. 1521 01:21:12,172 --> 01:21:14,074 Not a single one of them true. 1522 01:21:14,140 --> 01:21:17,043 All viciously anti?Hillary. 1523 01:21:17,110 --> 01:21:20,046 This isn't just one Sanders page. 1524 01:21:20,113 --> 01:21:22,448 It's Latinos for Sanders, Pennsylvania, 1525 01:21:22,516 --> 01:21:24,450 Wisconsin, Michigan for Sanders. 1526 01:21:24,518 --> 01:21:25,919 It kept on going. 1527 01:21:25,986 --> 01:21:30,056 ? While we were focusing on the positive of social media 1528 01:21:30,123 --> 01:21:33,960 and information technology, Russia was looking at how 1529 01:21:34,027 --> 01:21:35,161 to use that as an instrument 1530 01:21:35,228 --> 01:21:38,398 and they have been incredibly effective. 1531 01:21:38,464 --> 01:21:41,467 ? Cyber with social media, with things like RT. 1532 01:21:41,535 --> 01:21:43,436 They can reach out to western publics in a way 1533 01:21:43,503 --> 01:21:46,540 that they couldn't do 35, 40 years ago. 1534 01:21:46,607 --> 01:21:49,109 Some of their predecessors would be really envious 1535 01:21:49,175 --> 01:21:50,577 of the techniques that they have now. 1536 01:21:50,644 --> 01:21:53,580 ? How the Russian state does influence operations online 1537 01:21:53,647 --> 01:21:54,715 is pretty complex. 1538 01:21:54,781 --> 01:21:57,450 On the one hand you have real people, trolls. 1539 01:21:57,518 --> 01:22:00,721 A bigger part is actually digital disinformation. 1540 01:22:00,787 --> 01:22:05,425 Making user accounts that are algorithms. 1541 01:22:05,491 --> 01:22:09,596 This is the evolution of artificial intelligence online. 1542 01:22:09,663 --> 01:22:12,365 ? Russians figured out how you game Google. 1543 01:22:12,432 --> 01:22:15,035 If you have enough bots to drive it 1544 01:22:15,101 --> 01:22:17,337 to the top of the Google suggestion list. 1545 01:22:17,403 --> 01:22:18,471 ? Any wedge that's there, 1546 01:22:18,539 --> 01:22:19,806 they're gonna test that audience out. 1547 01:22:19,873 --> 01:22:22,509 And when they find success then they exploit it. 1548 01:22:22,576 --> 01:22:24,511 They double down on it. 1549 01:22:24,578 --> 01:22:25,612 You might see them show up 1550 01:22:25,679 --> 01:22:27,748 around Black Lives Matter protests. 1551 01:22:27,814 --> 01:22:30,150 And in the counter protest movement. 1552 01:22:30,216 --> 01:22:32,385 Any anti?government or white supremacist group. 1553 01:22:32,452 --> 01:22:34,487 Nationalists, non?globalists. 1554 01:22:34,555 --> 01:22:38,491 Anti?EU, anti?NATO, anti?immigration. 1555 01:22:38,559 --> 01:22:42,596 ? Promoting the far right, promoting the far left, 1556 01:22:42,663 --> 01:22:46,066 so that our politics become more polarized, 1557 01:22:46,132 --> 01:22:48,569 then Putin can feed lies to either side 1558 01:22:48,635 --> 01:22:50,637 because they hate each other so much. 1559 01:22:51,738 --> 01:22:54,440 If we're divided as Americans 1560 01:22:54,508 --> 01:22:58,278 then it's harder for us to stand up to that influence. 1561 01:22:58,344 --> 01:23:00,514 ? They know that in the west there's a tendency 1562 01:23:00,581 --> 01:23:02,583 towards positivism, there's a tendency towards, 1563 01:23:02,649 --> 01:23:03,449 well, I don't know. 1564 01:23:03,517 --> 01:23:04,317 That's a story that's out there. 1565 01:23:04,384 --> 01:23:04,918 We just can't discredit it. 1566 01:23:04,985 --> 01:23:05,752 We have to. 1567 01:23:05,819 --> 01:23:08,288 Maybe the media is right. 1568 01:23:08,354 --> 01:23:10,123 The Russians know that we do this a s westerners. 1569 01:23:10,190 --> 01:23:11,725 They see it coming and they take it to the bank 1570 01:23:11,792 --> 01:23:13,226 every single time. 1571 01:23:13,293 --> 01:23:14,494 ? The westerners are lazy. 1572 01:23:14,561 --> 01:23:15,662 I mean, they don't do research. 1573 01:23:15,729 --> 01:23:18,431 Russians have already done everything for them 1574 01:23:18,498 --> 01:23:21,467 and they know how to pack it and how to feed it to them. 1575 01:23:21,535 --> 01:23:23,704 ? Russia wins the audience first 1576 01:23:23,770 --> 01:23:25,438 and then directs them somewhere. 1577 01:23:25,506 --> 01:23:27,440 It's very different from American approaches. 1578 01:23:27,508 --> 01:23:29,142 Americans are impatient. 1579 01:23:29,209 --> 01:23:31,512 You just create pictures, you create bios 1580 01:23:31,578 --> 01:23:34,080 that look like accounts that are from these locations 1581 01:23:34,147 --> 01:23:36,683 because people are more likely to take in information 1582 01:23:36,750 --> 01:23:39,319 from people that look like them and talk like them. 1583 01:23:39,385 --> 01:23:40,854 Follow everybody that's in that community. 1584 01:23:40,921 --> 01:23:42,589 You retweet what they say. 1585 01:23:42,656 --> 01:23:44,090 Lowering the guard of that audience 1586 01:23:44,157 --> 01:23:47,327 so they would accept Russian information or Russian views. 1587 01:23:47,393 --> 01:23:50,296 Over time you can insert in the content you want. 1588 01:23:52,365 --> 01:23:54,467 ? [Reporter] In this office building in St. Petersburg, 1589 01:23:54,535 --> 01:23:56,202 an army of trolls. 1590 01:23:56,269 --> 01:23:57,804 They were even caught on camera 1591 01:23:57,871 --> 01:24:00,507 secretly filmed by a former employee. 1592 01:24:00,574 --> 01:24:02,509 ? The U. S. elections are the key issue 1593 01:24:02,576 --> 01:24:04,745 for the Kremlin and of course Russia has invested 1594 01:24:04,811 --> 01:24:06,747 a lot of effort into them. 1595 01:24:06,813 --> 01:24:08,615 It's so sophisticated and adapted 1596 01:24:08,682 --> 01:24:10,416 for the tastes of internet users 1597 01:24:10,483 --> 01:24:12,586 that it's almost impossible to recognize. 1598 01:24:12,653 --> 01:24:14,054 ? You have serious quotas. 1599 01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:17,591 So in an hour you have to produce 20 tweets, 30 comments 1600 01:24:17,658 --> 01:24:19,125 on these websites. 1601 01:24:19,192 --> 01:24:21,828 So, it's actually like a work environment for these people. 1602 01:24:21,895 --> 01:24:24,665 ? [Reporter] 12 hours a day praising the Kremlin, 1603 01:24:24,731 --> 01:24:26,833 berating its enemies. 1604 01:24:26,900 --> 01:24:29,570 ? I myself have a number of Russian trolls. 1605 01:24:29,636 --> 01:24:32,739 I know whenever I refer to the illegal annexation of Crimea 1606 01:24:32,806 --> 01:24:35,175 I get, you know, quite a bit of criticism. 1607 01:24:35,241 --> 01:24:36,376 ? An interview like this, 1608 01:24:36,442 --> 01:24:37,477 once it goes out on the internet, 1609 01:24:37,544 --> 01:24:38,879 I'll receive some sort of trolling 1610 01:24:38,945 --> 01:24:40,614 very specifically around it. 1611 01:24:40,681 --> 01:24:43,249 The goal is essentially to get you to shut up. 1612 01:24:43,316 --> 01:24:45,151 And to not be a challenger. 1613 01:24:45,218 --> 01:24:46,720 They'll threaten lawsuits, for example, 1614 01:24:46,787 --> 01:24:48,789 because they know nothing effects an American 1615 01:24:48,855 --> 01:24:50,524 like the threat of a lawsuit. 1616 01:24:52,058 --> 01:24:53,359 If you're operating in Europe, the closer you get to Moscow, 1617 01:24:53,426 --> 01:24:56,930 the more your physical life is actually in danger. 1618 01:24:56,997 --> 01:24:59,566 (gun firing) 1619 01:25:00,734 --> 01:25:02,669 They can try and break into your bank accounts, 1620 01:25:02,736 --> 01:25:03,870 attack you financially, 1621 01:25:03,937 --> 01:25:05,806 and if they can't get to you personally 1622 01:25:05,872 --> 01:25:07,774 they'll target your family. 1623 01:25:07,841 --> 01:25:09,175 They create false stories, 1624 01:25:09,242 --> 01:25:12,646 seed it out there to try and destroy your reputation. 1625 01:25:12,713 --> 01:25:16,650 ? You plant an idea, a fake story, a lie. 1626 01:25:16,717 --> 01:25:17,851 ? It will take on a life of its own 1627 01:25:17,918 --> 01:25:19,586 and you don't have to do the propaganda. 1628 01:25:19,653 --> 01:25:21,454 The audience will do it for you. 1629 01:25:22,656 --> 01:25:25,592 Seth Rich was a campaign worker for Hillary Clinton. 1630 01:25:25,659 --> 01:25:27,427 He turned up dead. 1631 01:25:27,493 --> 01:25:29,730 The Seth Rich story was that he was the one 1632 01:25:29,796 --> 01:25:32,498 who stole the Democratic Committee emails. 1633 01:25:32,566 --> 01:25:34,735 There's no evidence to support that. 1634 01:25:34,801 --> 01:25:36,670 Today is, it's an unsolved murder 1635 01:25:36,737 --> 01:25:38,839 but it's propagated both by the alternative right 1636 01:25:38,905 --> 01:25:40,707 but also by groups like Wikileaks. 1637 01:25:40,774 --> 01:25:42,576 Even to the point where you have Russian ambassador 1638 01:25:42,643 --> 01:25:44,678 show up and say I think there might be something 1639 01:25:44,745 --> 01:25:45,879 into this Seth Rich story. 1640 01:25:45,946 --> 01:25:48,615 That doubt that's there really covers your hand 1641 01:25:48,682 --> 01:25:49,850 over the longer term. 1642 01:25:50,984 --> 01:25:53,687 ? And sometimes the most outrageous 1643 01:25:53,754 --> 01:25:57,558 are the ones that you think that you don't want to dignify 1644 01:25:57,624 --> 01:26:00,727 with a response to but that I've subsequently learned 1645 01:26:00,794 --> 01:26:02,128 that's a kind of dangerous proposition. 1646 01:26:02,195 --> 01:26:04,831 ? John Podesta says let's go over to the pizza place 1647 01:26:04,898 --> 01:26:06,533 and all of a sudden it's a story 1648 01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:08,902 about child trafficking ring in the basement 1649 01:26:08,969 --> 01:26:11,004 which doesn't exist in the pizza place. 1650 01:26:11,071 --> 01:26:14,240 ? Resulted in a person who had been reading this stuff 1651 01:26:14,307 --> 01:26:16,643 deciding that he would deputize himself to come up here 1652 01:26:16,710 --> 01:26:19,613 with a gun, firing that weapon in the pizza parlor. 1653 01:26:20,480 --> 01:26:21,782 But it just sort of never ends. 1654 01:26:24,084 --> 01:26:26,953 ? 2013 they were starting to learn the power 1655 01:26:27,020 --> 01:26:28,622 of this influence. 1656 01:26:28,689 --> 01:26:31,858 In 2014 they were doing capability development. 1657 01:26:31,925 --> 01:26:35,662 '15 was winning audiences so that in 2016 1658 01:26:35,729 --> 01:26:37,831 you could actually go after the U. S. election. 1659 01:26:39,499 --> 01:26:41,735 The primary message would be one, 1660 01:26:41,802 --> 01:26:43,704 Hillary Clinton cannot become president. 1661 01:26:43,770 --> 01:26:46,707 Second one is Trump is the man to mend fences with Russia 1662 01:26:46,773 --> 01:26:50,043 and he's a great leader and a nationalist much like Putin. 1663 01:26:50,110 --> 01:26:52,746 The third one was Bernie Sanders got a raw deal 1664 01:26:52,813 --> 01:26:54,781 that you shouldn't even come out to the polls. 1665 01:26:54,848 --> 01:26:58,685 ? The Russians in line with right wing radical media 1666 01:26:58,752 --> 01:27:03,389 were creating false stories to generate fear 1667 01:27:03,456 --> 01:27:05,425 and in story after story after story. 1668 01:27:05,491 --> 01:27:07,060 ? [George] Secretary Clinton had a serious disease. 1669 01:27:07,127 --> 01:27:08,194 ? [Man] Multiple sclerosis. 1670 01:27:08,261 --> 01:27:09,796 ? [Woman] Hillary's gonna cause nuclear war. 1671 01:27:09,863 --> 01:27:10,964 ? [Man] Murderer of 30 people. 1672 01:27:11,031 --> 01:27:13,600 ? [Man] Funding Isis, smuggling drugs. 1673 01:27:13,667 --> 01:27:15,001 ? Untrustworthy. ? Pedophilia. 1674 01:27:15,068 --> 01:27:16,136 ? [Woman] Crooked. 1675 01:27:16,202 --> 01:27:17,704 ? Hillary Clinton is the she devil. 1676 01:27:17,771 --> 01:27:20,874 ? Totally creepy falsehood. 1677 01:27:20,941 --> 01:27:22,876 ? Sometimes we found in the United States 1678 01:27:22,943 --> 01:27:26,947 our greatest strength, free speech, open societies, 1679 01:27:27,013 --> 01:27:31,852 a democracy can also be one of our greatest vulnerabilities. 1680 01:27:31,918 --> 01:27:36,923 ? I don't think we were fully aware of the impact, 1681 01:27:37,891 --> 01:27:39,025 the effects that it was having. 1682 01:27:39,092 --> 01:27:42,829 So much of it seemed surreal, ridiculous. 1683 01:27:42,896 --> 01:27:46,633 ? By utilizing our openness, they exploited us. 1684 01:27:46,700 --> 01:27:48,902 If people that I knew personally 1685 01:27:48,969 --> 01:27:50,537 to be thinking thoughtful people, 1686 01:27:50,604 --> 01:27:54,508 if they were sharing the propaganda, who else was sharing? 1687 01:27:54,575 --> 01:27:55,876 ? Everyone falls for fake news. 1688 01:27:55,942 --> 01:27:56,977 I've fallen for fake news. 1689 01:27:57,043 --> 01:28:01,748 ? Over the last 75 days, the top 20 1690 01:28:01,815 --> 01:28:04,885 demonstrably fake stories, 1691 01:28:04,951 --> 01:28:07,621 got more Facebook likes and shares 1692 01:28:07,688 --> 01:28:11,592 than the top 20 campaign stories from mainstream media. 1693 01:28:11,658 --> 01:28:15,729 ? It laid the groundwork for Sanders supporters 1694 01:28:15,796 --> 01:28:17,598 to say I've had it. 1695 01:28:17,664 --> 01:28:19,432 ? They actually have won over a segment 1696 01:28:19,499 --> 01:28:22,402 of the U. S. audience like Russia's never won over before. 1697 01:28:22,468 --> 01:28:23,770 A white nationalists rally 1698 01:28:23,837 --> 01:28:26,507 in Charlottesville, Virginia, where they chanted. 1699 01:28:31,111 --> 01:28:35,849 ? Recent polling indicates that 49% of Republican voters, 1700 01:28:35,916 --> 01:28:38,118 I'm sad to say, believe that, 1701 01:28:38,184 --> 01:28:40,787 that Putin and that Russia are either 1702 01:28:40,854 --> 01:28:43,857 an ally or a friendly nation. 1703 01:28:43,924 --> 01:28:47,561 ? The question is who helped guide the decisions 1704 01:28:47,628 --> 01:28:48,929 that the Russians were making, 1705 01:28:48,995 --> 01:28:50,496 what ads they may have bought. 1706 01:28:50,564 --> 01:28:52,432 What kinds of fake news 1707 01:28:52,498 --> 01:28:54,701 they thought would be most effective. 1708 01:28:54,768 --> 01:28:56,737 ? If you know the personality 1709 01:28:56,803 --> 01:28:58,238 of the people you're targeting, 1710 01:28:58,304 --> 01:29:01,808 you can nuance your messaging to resonate more effectively 1711 01:29:01,875 --> 01:29:03,844 with those key audience groups. 1712 01:29:03,910 --> 01:29:06,913 This information is quite helpful to a campaign manager. 1713 01:29:07,948 --> 01:29:09,415 ? Cambridge Analytica popped up 1714 01:29:09,482 --> 01:29:13,687 growing out of an experiment, behavioral science experiment 1715 01:29:13,754 --> 01:29:16,823 at Cambridge University to see whether they could 1716 01:29:16,890 --> 01:29:21,628 analyze large numbers of people using Facebook 1717 01:29:21,695 --> 01:29:25,799 because people are spilling their feelings to their friends, 1718 01:29:25,866 --> 01:29:27,934 hundreds of millions of people in their pool. 1719 01:29:28,001 --> 01:29:29,269 ? We have somewhere close to 1720 01:29:29,335 --> 01:29:31,905 four or five thousand data points on every adult 1721 01:29:31,972 --> 01:29:33,173 in the United States. 1722 01:29:33,239 --> 01:29:35,576 We can see where these people are on the map. 1723 01:29:35,642 --> 01:29:38,812 ? They were able to take that to micro segment. 1724 01:29:38,879 --> 01:29:41,915 You belong to a group of 12 like?minded people 1725 01:29:41,982 --> 01:29:43,950 exactly like you who are interested 1726 01:29:44,017 --> 01:29:46,119 in the same things around the country. 1727 01:29:46,186 --> 01:29:48,689 ? These are people who are definitely going 1728 01:29:48,755 --> 01:29:51,224 to vote but they need moving from the center 1729 01:29:51,291 --> 01:29:53,026 a little bit more towards the right. 1730 01:29:53,093 --> 01:29:55,028 ? You're not supposed to go into Facebook 1731 01:29:55,095 --> 01:29:58,198 and harvest that kind of information. 1732 01:29:58,264 --> 01:30:02,202 Cambridge Analytica got its Facebook data 1733 01:30:02,268 --> 01:30:04,237 in a sort of quasi?legal way. 1734 01:30:04,304 --> 01:30:06,873 ? We can look at what issue they care about. 1735 01:30:06,940 --> 01:30:08,742 Gun rights I've selected. 1736 01:30:08,809 --> 01:30:11,512 That narrows the field slightly more and now we know 1737 01:30:11,578 --> 01:30:13,847 that we need a message on gun rights. 1738 01:30:13,914 --> 01:30:15,849 It needs to be a persuasion message 1739 01:30:15,916 --> 01:30:17,551 and it needs to be nuanced 1740 01:30:17,618 --> 01:30:19,485 according to the certain personality 1741 01:30:19,553 --> 01:30:20,787 that we're interested in. 1742 01:30:20,854 --> 01:30:23,824 ? They were very involved in the Brexit vote. 1743 01:30:25,291 --> 01:30:27,894 ? We saw the Russian bot armies, the trolls, 1744 01:30:27,961 --> 01:30:30,697 have a very pro Brexit message. 1745 01:30:30,764 --> 01:30:33,600 ? There have been allegations that Cambridge Analytica 1746 01:30:33,667 --> 01:30:38,004 supported it through a small office above a pizza shop, 1747 01:30:38,071 --> 01:30:41,908 which is not exactly the kind of place you think 1748 01:30:41,975 --> 01:30:45,178 would be the center for international intrigue 1749 01:30:45,245 --> 01:30:46,780 unless it was just a cutout 1750 01:30:46,847 --> 01:30:49,850 for somebody much more consequential behind it. 1751 01:30:51,151 --> 01:30:54,588 ? [Craig] Cambridge Analytics is owned by SCL. 1752 01:30:54,655 --> 01:30:58,525 ? A larger and much more sinister global election 1753 01:30:58,592 --> 01:31:03,029 tampering operation using big data and technology. 1754 01:31:03,096 --> 01:31:05,966 ? SCL is in turn owned by shell companies 1755 01:31:06,032 --> 01:31:08,835 that you can trace back to Dmitry Firtash 1756 01:31:09,803 --> 01:31:12,038 who again is tied to Mogilevich. 1757 01:31:15,809 --> 01:31:18,278 That would complete the entire string 1758 01:31:18,344 --> 01:31:21,615 and show crime boss and Mogilevich involved 1759 01:31:21,682 --> 01:31:24,951 starting out with pure and simple money laundering in 1984 1760 01:31:25,018 --> 01:31:27,988 with Trump properties going forward more than 32 years 1761 01:31:28,054 --> 01:31:31,692 to the election in which this data mining firm 1762 01:31:31,758 --> 01:31:33,794 Cambridge Analytica is playing a very, very big role 1763 01:31:33,860 --> 01:31:36,029 in the Trump campaign and helping him win. 1764 01:31:43,670 --> 01:31:46,039 ? Of the two candidates left in this election, 1765 01:31:46,106 --> 01:31:48,575 one of them is using these technologies 1766 01:31:48,642 --> 01:31:50,310 and it's gonna be very interesting to see 1767 01:31:50,376 --> 01:31:53,346 how they impact the next several weeks. 1768 01:31:53,413 --> 01:31:54,681 Thank you. 1769 01:31:54,748 --> 01:31:56,116 ? [Nina] One of the big investors in Cambridge Analytica 1770 01:31:56,182 --> 01:31:57,851 is Robert Mercer. 1771 01:32:02,889 --> 01:32:05,058 He's a hedge fund billionaire. 1772 01:32:32,352 --> 01:32:35,922 ? Cyber scientists on the outside noticed this server 1773 01:32:35,989 --> 01:32:38,258 that was configured in a very unusual way 1774 01:32:38,324 --> 01:32:42,696 that was a direct link essentially from a Russian bank, 1775 01:32:42,763 --> 01:32:45,165 Alfa bank, and Trump Tower. 1776 01:32:48,101 --> 01:32:50,771 ? [Man] That would obviously explain 1777 01:32:50,837 --> 01:32:53,006 a major path of communications. 1778 01:32:53,073 --> 01:32:54,240 ? Trump Tower. 1779 01:32:54,307 --> 01:32:56,943 They seemed to have premonitions of things 1780 01:32:57,010 --> 01:32:59,012 that were gonna happen that in fact did happen. 1781 01:32:59,079 --> 01:33:01,682 Roger Stone in August saying it would be my turn 1782 01:33:01,748 --> 01:33:03,917 at the barrel while he simultaneously 1783 01:33:03,984 --> 01:33:06,119 involved with Wikileaks. 1784 01:33:06,186 --> 01:33:11,024 ? I actually have communicated with Assange. 1785 01:33:11,091 --> 01:33:13,026 I believe the next crunch of documents 1786 01:33:13,093 --> 01:33:16,129 pertain to the Clinton Foundation 1787 01:33:16,196 --> 01:33:19,666 but there's no telling what the October surprise may be. 1788 01:33:19,733 --> 01:33:23,737 ? October 7, 2016, three major things happened. 1789 01:33:23,804 --> 01:33:24,971 The Department of Homeland Security 1790 01:33:25,038 --> 01:33:27,107 and the Director of National Intelligence 1791 01:33:27,173 --> 01:33:30,076 made a public statement and said the government hacking 1792 01:33:30,143 --> 01:33:32,045 during the 2016 election was none other 1793 01:33:32,112 --> 01:33:34,848 than the Russian Federation and that this decision 1794 01:33:34,915 --> 01:33:38,184 could have only been made by Vladimir Putin. 1795 01:33:38,251 --> 01:33:41,655 On the same day the Access Hollywood tapes were revealed. 1796 01:33:47,393 --> 01:33:48,061 Those two things. 1797 01:33:48,128 --> 01:33:49,195 A third thing happened. 1798 01:33:49,262 --> 01:33:51,632 John Podesta's emails were released. 1799 01:33:53,033 --> 01:33:55,235 ? Wikileaks posted more than 2,000 additional emails 1800 01:33:55,301 --> 01:33:58,371 from Hillary Clinton's campaign chair, John Podesta. 1801 01:33:58,438 --> 01:33:59,840 ? I never heard from the FBI 1802 01:33:59,906 --> 01:34:02,275 until two days after my emails started getting released. 1803 01:34:02,342 --> 01:34:03,910 They said you may not be aware of this 1804 01:34:03,977 --> 01:34:05,078 but your emails have been hacked. 1805 01:34:05,145 --> 01:34:07,247 I said, yes, I've been watching it for 48 hours 1806 01:34:07,313 --> 01:34:11,451 on every cable story, you know, in the country. 1807 01:34:11,518 --> 01:34:14,054 That was actually the last time I talked to the FBI. 1808 01:34:14,120 --> 01:34:16,723 ? There was a lot more that was coming out 1809 01:34:16,790 --> 01:34:19,826 that we were aware of that we couldn't get the press 1810 01:34:19,893 --> 01:34:21,394 to pay any attention to. 1811 01:34:21,461 --> 01:34:24,430 I tried in my speeches and then culminating 1812 01:34:24,497 --> 01:34:25,899 in the third debate. 1813 01:34:25,966 --> 01:34:28,902 ? Look, from everything I see 1814 01:34:28,969 --> 01:34:32,472 has no respect for this person. 1815 01:34:32,539 --> 01:34:33,674 ? Well, that's because he'd rather 1816 01:34:33,740 --> 01:34:36,209 have a puppet as president. ? No puppet. 1817 01:34:36,276 --> 01:34:37,377 No puppet. 1818 01:34:37,443 --> 01:34:38,111 ? United States and it's pretty clear. 1819 01:34:38,178 --> 01:34:39,279 ? You're the puppet. 1820 01:34:39,345 --> 01:34:40,113 ? It's pretty clear you won't admit?? 1821 01:34:40,180 --> 01:34:41,982 ? [Donald] No you won't?? 1822 01:34:42,048 --> 01:34:43,416 ? That the Russians have engaged 1823 01:34:43,483 --> 01:34:44,785 in cyber?attacks against the United States of America. 1824 01:34:44,851 --> 01:34:50,423 That you encouraged espionage against our people. 1825 01:34:51,592 --> 01:34:54,194 That you are willing to spout the Putin line, 1826 01:34:54,260 --> 01:34:57,297 sign up for his wish list, break up NATO, 1827 01:34:57,363 --> 01:34:59,533 do whatever he wants to do. 1828 01:34:59,600 --> 01:35:02,202 ? We went into election day believing that we had 1829 01:35:02,268 --> 01:35:05,038 a lead in the popular vote which proved to be true. 1830 01:35:06,272 --> 01:35:08,041 Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, 1831 01:35:08,108 --> 01:35:10,143 we felt like we had a lead in all those states 1832 01:35:10,210 --> 01:35:12,078 and that proved to be not true 1833 01:35:12,145 --> 01:35:15,215 so he won by a combined total in those three states 1834 01:35:15,281 --> 01:35:17,283 of 70,000 votes and gave him the presidency. 1835 01:35:26,326 --> 01:35:27,928 ? Sorry to keep you waiting. 1836 01:35:27,994 --> 01:35:29,730 Complicated business. 1837 01:35:49,115 --> 01:35:50,250 ? During the transition, 1838 01:35:50,316 --> 01:35:54,287 Jared Kushner met with a sanctioned Russian bank. 1839 01:35:54,354 --> 01:35:55,455 ? Gorkov, the head of that bank, 1840 01:35:55,522 --> 01:35:57,991 got his training not in the banker's academy. 1841 01:35:58,058 --> 01:36:00,126 He's a trained KGB agent. 1842 01:36:01,427 --> 01:36:03,263 And its offices all around the world 1843 01:36:03,329 --> 01:36:05,932 are always understood to be providing cover 1844 01:36:05,999 --> 01:36:07,934 for Russian intelligence operations. 1845 01:36:08,001 --> 01:36:10,370 ? What did you really speak to Jared Kushner about 1846 01:36:10,436 --> 01:36:13,073 in New York when you met him in December? http://worldmkv.com/ 1847 01:36:13,139 --> 01:36:15,408 ? [Reporter] The Russian bank said they talked business. 1848 01:36:15,475 --> 01:36:19,279 White House says they talked future U. S./Russia relations. 1849 01:36:19,345 --> 01:36:21,381 ? If he was doing this for business purposes 1850 01:36:21,447 --> 01:36:23,049 it would be a violation of the law. 1851 01:36:23,116 --> 01:36:25,285 If he was doing this for political purposes 1852 01:36:25,351 --> 01:36:27,120 there are serious questions about whether he 1853 01:36:27,187 --> 01:36:29,389 or anyone on the campaign were working with Russians 1854 01:36:29,455 --> 01:36:31,124 during the interference campaign. 1855 01:36:31,191 --> 01:36:33,293 ? The crown jewel for any intelligence agency 1856 01:36:33,359 --> 01:36:36,396 is to recruit an asset inside 1857 01:36:36,462 --> 01:36:38,364 your adversary's intelligence agency 1858 01:36:40,333 --> 01:36:42,368 because that person can of course report 1859 01:36:42,435 --> 01:36:45,539 on intelligence operations against your own country. 1860 01:36:45,606 --> 01:36:48,241 ? For Donald Trump to put Michael Flynn 1861 01:36:48,308 --> 01:36:50,243 in the role of National Security Advisor 1862 01:36:50,310 --> 01:36:53,647 shows that they were extremely incompetent 1863 01:36:53,714 --> 01:36:56,482 in their vetting of an individual who was working 1864 01:36:56,550 --> 01:36:59,886 as an unregistered foreign agent on behalf of Turkey. 1865 01:36:59,953 --> 01:37:03,189 Who had extensive ties to a foreign adversary in Russia 1866 01:37:03,256 --> 01:37:06,426 and wasn't disclosing those ties or that was one 1867 01:37:06,492 --> 01:37:10,330 of his highest qualifications and Donald Trump liked that. 1868 01:37:10,396 --> 01:37:15,201 ? I was invited to take my old job as CIA director back. 1869 01:37:15,268 --> 01:37:17,938 And I learned that I would have had to report 1870 01:37:18,004 --> 01:37:20,273 to the president through Mike Flynn. 1871 01:37:20,340 --> 01:37:22,509 They pressed me to go to a particular meeting 1872 01:37:22,576 --> 01:37:25,145 where there were several Turks present 1873 01:37:25,211 --> 01:37:27,581 and it was clear they were thinking seriously 1874 01:37:27,648 --> 01:37:31,317 about taking him into custody Gulan in Western Pennsylvania 1875 01:37:31,384 --> 01:37:33,987 which would have been completely illegal under American law. 1876 01:37:34,054 --> 01:37:36,022 I told them that and left. 1877 01:37:38,424 --> 01:37:41,427 I decided I did not want to report through Mike 1878 01:37:41,494 --> 01:37:44,531 and so I turned down the offer. 1879 01:37:44,598 --> 01:37:45,699 ? President?elect Donald Trump 1880 01:37:45,766 --> 01:37:48,134 sent out an email announcing his pick 1881 01:37:48,201 --> 01:37:49,369 for Secretary of State. 1882 01:37:49,435 --> 01:37:52,372 Exxon Mobil chairman and CEO Rex Tillerson, 1883 01:37:52,438 --> 01:37:55,609 despite concerns over his close ties to Russia. 1884 01:37:56,777 --> 01:37:58,378 ? I mean, this is a guy who was given 1885 01:37:58,444 --> 01:38:01,381 a friendship award by Vladimir Putin. 1886 01:38:01,447 --> 01:38:03,449 ? I have a very close relationship with him 1887 01:38:03,517 --> 01:38:06,319 which dates back almost 15 years now. 1888 01:38:06,386 --> 01:38:09,489 ? I believe that Rex Tillerson was chosen by Donald Trump 1889 01:38:09,556 --> 01:38:11,525 for primarily one reason. 1890 01:38:11,592 --> 01:38:16,029 He would not stand in the way of Donald Trump's 1891 01:38:16,096 --> 01:38:19,700 prevailing policy interests which is to align 1892 01:38:19,766 --> 01:38:23,570 the United States with Vladimir Putin's regime. 1893 01:38:23,637 --> 01:38:26,372 And I think that's exactly what he's done. 1894 01:38:26,439 --> 01:38:27,908 He's facilitated it. 1895 01:38:29,409 --> 01:38:32,045 ? Putin and Rex Tillerson had been trying to put together 1896 01:38:32,112 --> 01:38:36,449 a 500 billion dollar Arctic Exploration deal. 1897 01:38:36,517 --> 01:38:39,085 ? Exxon Mobil has won a highly coveted contract 1898 01:38:39,152 --> 01:38:40,353 with Russia's Rozneft. 1899 01:38:40,420 --> 01:38:43,089 ? You know, my philosophy is to make money. 1900 01:38:43,156 --> 01:38:46,727 And so if I can drill and make money 1901 01:38:46,793 --> 01:38:48,595 then that's what I want to do. 1902 01:38:51,397 --> 01:38:54,100 ? But it had been put on hold by the Obama Administration 1903 01:38:54,167 --> 01:38:55,669 when the sanctions were imposed. 1904 01:38:57,470 --> 01:38:59,505 ? One of the fascinating things in that dossier, 1905 01:38:59,573 --> 01:39:01,374 Steele sources told him that Rozneft, 1906 01:39:01,441 --> 01:39:03,443 big Russian oil company owned by the state, 1907 01:39:03,510 --> 01:39:06,146 that 19% of it was gonna be sold off. 1908 01:39:06,212 --> 01:39:08,381 And that there'd be money for people who were able to get. 1909 01:39:08,448 --> 01:39:09,650 U.S. sanctions removed. 1910 01:39:14,588 --> 01:39:19,593 Well, sure enough in December that percentage of Rozneft 1911 01:39:20,827 --> 01:39:23,597 was sold off in a method by which involved Shell companies 1912 01:39:23,664 --> 01:39:26,099 in the Grand Caymans which are nontransparent 1913 01:39:26,166 --> 01:39:27,601 so which you can't penetrate. 1914 01:39:29,302 --> 01:39:31,738 ? Only someone in the highest echelons 1915 01:39:31,805 --> 01:39:34,641 of Rozneft would have access to that information. 1916 01:39:38,612 --> 01:39:41,381 ? And obviously somebody talking to Chris Steele 1917 01:39:41,447 --> 01:39:45,118 knew a lot about it many months before it happened. 1918 01:39:49,355 --> 01:39:51,457 ? The Russian hand in these influence efforts, 1919 01:39:51,525 --> 01:39:52,593 ultimately they'll try and hide it 1920 01:39:52,659 --> 01:39:54,327 and they do it with two methods, 1921 01:39:54,394 --> 01:39:57,097 putting them in jail or killing people off. 1922 01:39:57,163 --> 01:39:59,566 (gun firing) 1923 01:39:59,633 --> 01:40:02,102 ? Arrests in which people were dragged out 1924 01:40:02,168 --> 01:40:04,470 had black bags put over their heads. 1925 01:40:04,538 --> 01:40:06,306 Charged for treason. 1926 01:40:06,372 --> 01:40:09,442 These people may have been Chris Steele sources 1927 01:40:09,510 --> 01:40:12,579 or Russian intelligence may have suspected that they were. 1928 01:40:14,147 --> 01:40:16,783 The day after Christmas, General Oleg Erovenkin, 1929 01:40:16,850 --> 01:40:21,321 who was the Chief of Staff of Rozneft was assassinated 1930 01:40:21,387 --> 01:40:24,424 in the back of a car in the center of Moscow. 1931 01:40:24,490 --> 01:40:27,193 ? [Clint] The head of RT English mysterious death 1932 01:40:27,260 --> 01:40:28,494 in Washington, D. C. 1933 01:40:29,863 --> 01:40:31,865 A Russian diplomat stationed here in New York City 1934 01:40:31,932 --> 01:40:34,200 had actually died on election day. 1935 01:40:35,869 --> 01:40:38,572 ? You've got obvious interests on the part of the Russians. 1936 01:40:38,639 --> 01:40:40,607 And of course on the other side of the equation 1937 01:40:40,674 --> 01:40:42,609 you have all of these contacts going back to Russia, 1938 01:40:42,676 --> 01:40:44,778 whether it's Roger Stone, whether it's Flynn. 1939 01:40:44,845 --> 01:40:45,879 Whether it's any of these folks, 1940 01:40:45,946 --> 01:40:48,181 there is simply way too much smoke 1941 01:40:48,248 --> 01:40:50,551 for there to be absolutely no fire whatsoever. 1942 01:40:50,617 --> 01:40:53,554 (light intense music) 1943 01:41:06,833 --> 01:41:11,271 ? That I forget how many tentacles this has. (laughs) 1944 01:41:11,337 --> 01:41:15,576 It's just sort of anyone of these is a massive story. 1945 01:41:23,517 --> 01:41:26,452 It's unrealistic to think it's limited to what we know now. 1946 01:41:26,520 --> 01:41:29,556 Rather than look at this as one isolated money laundering 1947 01:41:29,623 --> 01:41:33,493 after another or one criminal appearing after another. 1948 01:41:33,560 --> 01:41:34,661 I think it's much more than that 1949 01:41:34,728 --> 01:41:37,330 and what you have is probably 1950 01:41:37,397 --> 01:41:40,734 the biggest intelligence breach in the history of the world. 1951 01:41:40,801 --> 01:41:44,404 ? So to be clear Mr. Trump has no financial relationships 1952 01:41:44,470 --> 01:41:46,239 with any Russian oligarchs? 1953 01:41:46,306 --> 01:41:47,273 ? That that's what he said. 1954 01:41:47,340 --> 01:41:48,008 I didn't. 1955 01:41:48,074 --> 01:41:49,175 That's what I said. 1956 01:41:49,242 --> 01:41:51,144 That's obviously what our position is. 1957 01:42:06,660 --> 01:42:07,928 ? Do you solemnly swear. 1958 01:42:07,994 --> 01:42:11,698 ? The office of President of the United States. 1959 01:42:11,765 --> 01:42:14,801 (intense somber music) 1960 01:42:38,892 --> 01:42:43,897 ? The president is, I believe, a puppet of Vladimir Putin. 1961 01:42:45,566 --> 01:42:48,869 That is the mere challenge that we face as Americans. 1962 01:42:50,036 --> 01:42:53,607 ? He has tried to deliver for Russia. 1963 01:42:53,674 --> 01:42:56,710 He wanted to take off sanctions immediately. 1964 01:42:56,777 --> 01:42:59,680 ? I was in the administration for the first five weeks 1965 01:42:59,746 --> 01:43:01,748 of Trump where, among other things, 1966 01:43:01,815 --> 01:43:03,984 I was responsible for the Russia sanctions. 1967 01:43:04,050 --> 01:43:06,553 And I'm one of the people who was worried 1968 01:43:06,620 --> 01:43:08,789 that the Trump Administration would suddenly 1969 01:43:08,855 --> 01:43:10,323 lift the sanctions unilaterally. 1970 01:43:10,390 --> 01:43:11,792 And I stand by it now. 1971 01:43:15,095 --> 01:43:16,697 ? You don't have to have been a lawyer. 1972 01:43:16,763 --> 01:43:18,164 You don't have to have been in a cover?up 1973 01:43:18,231 --> 01:43:21,802 to see when somebody is acting like they're covering up. 1974 01:43:21,868 --> 01:43:24,771 This man is clearly inconspicuously doing so. 1975 01:43:28,775 --> 01:43:32,378 ? I don't know how a president can handle this situation 1976 01:43:32,445 --> 01:43:34,280 worse than President Trump is now. 1977 01:43:35,616 --> 01:43:37,551 His actions at the G20, 1978 01:43:37,618 --> 01:43:40,721 his talk of maybe getting a cyber partnership. 1979 01:43:43,890 --> 01:43:46,760 You don't go to somebody who just punched you in the face 1980 01:43:46,827 --> 01:43:48,328 and then offer them a favor. 1981 01:43:54,801 --> 01:43:56,102 ? Trump has to have known he was compromised. 1982 01:43:56,169 --> 01:43:58,739 He's got to know the eyes of the world are on him. 1983 01:43:58,805 --> 01:44:01,842 And suddenly all these forces will be out to expose him. 1984 01:44:01,908 --> 01:44:04,778 I cannot imagine living with that every day, you know. 1985 01:44:08,381 --> 01:44:12,418 ? The Trump campaign's biggest potential exposure 1986 01:44:12,485 --> 01:44:14,755 is gonna be in their financial dealings. 1987 01:44:14,821 --> 01:44:17,924 It's very hard to cover up money trails. 1988 01:44:19,660 --> 01:44:22,929 The other one is obstruction of justice. 1989 01:44:22,996 --> 01:44:25,532 ? Collusion is a media shorthand 1990 01:44:25,599 --> 01:44:27,934 for could be aiding and abetting. 1991 01:44:28,001 --> 01:44:29,235 Conspiracy. 1992 01:44:29,302 --> 01:44:32,773 It could be aid and comfort which is treason. 1993 01:44:34,808 --> 01:44:38,812 ? The Russia story is a total fabrication. 1994 01:44:38,879 --> 01:44:41,748 What the prosecutors should be looking at 1995 01:44:41,815 --> 01:44:45,586 are Hillary Clinton's 33,000 deleted emails. 1996 01:44:49,455 --> 01:44:50,456 ? Lock her up! 1997 01:44:50,524 --> 01:44:51,858 Lock her up! 1998 01:44:51,925 --> 01:44:53,026 Lock her up! 1999 01:44:53,093 --> 01:44:54,595 Lock her up! 2000 01:44:54,661 --> 01:44:57,330 (crowd yelling) 2001 01:44:59,733 --> 01:45:00,734 Lock her up! 2002 01:45:00,801 --> 01:45:02,068 Lock her up! 2003 01:45:02,135 --> 01:45:03,704 Lock her up! 2004 01:45:03,770 --> 01:45:04,871 Lock her up! 2005 01:45:04,938 --> 01:45:06,472 Lock her up! 2006 01:45:06,540 --> 01:45:07,541 Lock her up! 2007 01:45:10,644 --> 01:45:12,012 ? It is ongoing. 2008 01:45:12,078 --> 01:45:16,116 The Russians efforts here are continuing as we speak. 2009 01:45:16,182 --> 01:45:17,684 ? We've done zero. 2010 01:45:17,751 --> 01:45:20,821 Absolutely nothing to protect us 2011 01:45:20,887 --> 01:45:24,525 from a future cyber?attack with respect to any election. 2012 01:45:24,591 --> 01:45:25,358 Zero. 2013 01:45:25,425 --> 01:45:26,727 We haven't done anything. 2014 01:45:26,793 --> 01:45:28,929 ? As long as people can do things without penalty 2015 01:45:28,995 --> 01:45:31,732 they're going to continue to do them. 2016 01:45:31,798 --> 01:45:33,634 ? We all have a stake because it may have been 2017 01:45:33,700 --> 01:45:35,101 the Democrats and me this time. 2018 01:45:35,168 --> 01:45:38,071 It can be the Republicans and their candidate next time. 2019 01:45:38,138 --> 01:45:40,440 ? Every single national security official we've talked to 2020 01:45:40,507 --> 01:45:42,576 has said they're coming back. 2021 01:45:42,643 --> 01:45:43,744 We have to be ready for that. 2022 01:45:43,810 --> 01:45:45,646 ? And if the people don't demand that. 2023 01:45:45,712 --> 01:45:47,881 If they don't demand that our sovereignty 2024 01:45:47,948 --> 01:45:51,117 needs to be defended, our representatives in Congress 2025 01:45:51,184 --> 01:45:53,820 are gonna kind of look the other way and move on. 2026 01:45:53,887 --> 01:45:56,890 ? What's at stake is truth. 2027 01:45:56,957 --> 01:46:01,828 What's at stake is government that's accountable to us. 2028 01:46:01,895 --> 01:46:03,930 And the cause of liberty 2029 01:46:03,997 --> 01:46:07,968 at the most profound level possible. 2030 01:46:08,034 --> 01:46:10,203 ? We owe it to the people who have fought for 2031 01:46:10,270 --> 01:46:12,639 and sacrificed for this democracy 2032 01:46:12,706 --> 01:46:14,875 and to be guardians of it and make sure 2033 01:46:14,941 --> 01:46:17,443 that we always have free and fair elections. 2034 01:46:17,511 --> 01:46:19,980 (ominous music) http://worldmkv.com/ 2035 01:46:24,751 --> 01:46:28,021 (upbeat electro music) 164910

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