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I'm pregnant.
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She knew I was underage,
she knew he abused me.
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She knew everything! And then
she asked me about the pills.
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Could we please have a word about
your daughter down at the station?
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And we've decided that, yes,
we'll have the termination.
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Well, you know that's not going
to happen. You will go on through
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to the end of a normal pregnancy
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and give birth to your baby
in the normal way.
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Nothing about this is normal!
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Nothing about this is right.
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- Your beautiful baby loves you.
- Not so close, please.
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- How long will I get?
- The maximum sentence is five years.
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The government's considering
changing the law
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on fatal foetal abnormality.
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- A woman's right to choose, end of.
- No, we have to go for this.
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There's women out there right now
being forced to give birth
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to dead babies.
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If it helps just one other person,
it'll be worth it.
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I duly direct that the case be sent up
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to the Crown Court
to be tried before a jury.
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Your statement reads
really well, Hannah.
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I think Judge Horner will
take it very seriously.
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And, yes, we can keep your name
out of it.
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"I would respectfully ask
that this court make an order
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that my identity should not
be revealed to any person."
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That's the legal form of words.
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Oh, yes, please, put that.
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That would be a huge relief.
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There's just one thing...
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you were told
you'd missed the deadline
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for a termination.
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Because I was 23 weeks
and six days, yeah.
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Over the water, in England,
with fatal foetal abnormality...
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... there is no deadline.
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I didn't know.
I... I just accepted it. I...
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I didn't ask questions...
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I put the phone down!
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Why will nobody ever give you
any proper information
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- in this country?
- Government guidelines.
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Vague ones. Strict but vague.
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So strict and so vague
that our medics or nurses...
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... they've got too scared to tell
you anything about what's legal
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- and available.
- Worried about their jobs.
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Worried they could get prosecuted.
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It's all wrong.
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THERESA: I was... I was
thinking that human rights case
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might help us out.
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I mean, I know... I know
it's a wee bit different, but...
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OK. Thanks, Rachel. Bye. Bye.
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So a trial is listed to start
on the 27th of April...
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... for three weeks.
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April? Next year?
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This is a trial that was supposed
to happen before Christmas.
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The trial your marvellous lawyer
said would never happen at all.
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Quick, quick, quick, quick!
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On you go!
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Are we doing the right thing,
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not telling the family
about the trial?
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I'm the mother.
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I ordered the pills,
it is my responsibility.
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I will deal with it
as privately as I can, Mark, OK?
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Nobody needs to know.
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One day at a time.
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I got it.
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PROTESTERS CHANT
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REPORTER: Angry protests outside
the High Court in Belfast today
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against a landmark legal ruling.
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The Northern Ireland
Human Rights Commission argued
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that the almost total ban
on abortion law here
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denies women their fundamental rights.
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And today, the High Court
has ruled in favour
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of the pro-choice campaigners.
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- So that's it? We won? Did we?
- Yes, the law is wrong, but, no.
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Judge Horner says the courts
can't go ahead and permit abortions
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in cases of fatal foetal abnormality,
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only an elected government
can do that.
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The government? Stormont?
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They're the problem
in the first place!
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Don't tell us... tell the world.
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It's a big step, Hannah.
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Look, I can't talk.
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I know, so just listen.
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This human rights judgment
could be a real game changer
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for us, Theresa.
It's potentially very good news.
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I'm going to use it to ask
the Public Prosecution Service
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and the police to drop their case
against you.
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I want everyone to know how unjust
the law is here in Northern Ireland.
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And I want the government
to understand
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that no-one should ever
have to endure what I did.
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I just can't sit back and do nothing
knowing there are other women
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and families going through
the same thing.
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And no-one should ever be forced
to continue with a pregnancy
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if they don't want to.
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And so the courts have sent
this most divisive of issues
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back to politicians at Stormont.
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You're not the girl I married.
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In a good way?
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A star is born!
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Here, we'll have a glass of wine
to celebrate.
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No, but you can make me a cup of tea.
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A big one... tea for two.
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A baby?
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I'm so scared.
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Me too.
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Scared...
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... and happy.
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Which?
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Choose.
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Happy.
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JOHN: Look, we know
it was just a random thing,
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what happened with Molly.
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We got the all clear.
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We know neither of us is a carrier.
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But what if?
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Nothing will go wrong this time.
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It'll be the end of me if it does.
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- Went fine.
- Fine, fine. God, what does fine mean?
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It means, for an old girl,
I'm doing well.
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SHE GIGGLES
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Oh, and the baby takes after me.
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- As in?
- Long legs.
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BOTH LAUGH
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Are you calling me a short-arse?
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Well, would you just rub
those wee legs together
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and get home?
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Your wish is my command.
Look up, look up.
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HE LAUGHS
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Oh, go! Go get him! Go!
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Bringing you back to Northern Ireland...
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best thing I ever did.
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Thanks.
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Never thought this would happen for me.
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40's not old, not these days.
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They mentioned
this quadruple blood test.
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They offer that to anyone over 35.
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Well, now I feel really ancient!
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It's completely routine.
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REPORTER: The headlines, again,
all change at the top
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as Arlene Foster takes charge
of the Northern Ireland Assembly.
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She's the first woman
First Minister in history.
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Next news at 2 pm.
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I don't know,
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might be nice to have a woman
in charge for a change.
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I have no time for it.
All as bad as each other.
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She's a mother herself,
so she's on the side of the angels
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when it comes to the big stuff.
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She proves you don't have to be
a Catholic to see that it's murder,
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pure and simple.
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Yeah, you know...
those wee girls, you know,
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what if they've been raped,
for instance,
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or were underage?
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Two wrongs don't make a right.
Or is it the wee child's fault
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how it got here?
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And if he's disabled, so what?
He's still human.
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He has rights.
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Sorry, am I banging on?
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Do you know what I think?
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- Orla.
- No, but I have an idea you're about to tell me.
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I think abortion is
a woman's right to choose.
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God in heaven!
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I've had enough.
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She's young.
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She doesn't mean it, I'm sorry. Orla.
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Orla!
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When did I ever bring you up
to be so rude?
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She is a bigot and I can't stand
listening to her.
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Louise is on her own.
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It is tough for her.
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And, you know, if... if you really
believed that abortion was murder,
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you would fight to the death
to stop it, too.
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Do you think what we did was murder?
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Honestly? I don't know.
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But I know I would... I would do it
all again if I had to.
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You'll catch your death
with that wet hair.
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PHONE RINGS
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- Hello?
- Mrs Fortress?
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- That's me.
- It's Sheena,
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the midwife from the hospital,
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about the quadruple test you did.
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Yes?
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I get it, I do, but the test said
one in five,
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a one-in-five chance of this syndrome.
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But... that's not high, is it?
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That means I'm... 80% fine.
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My baby is 80% fine.
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Your scan shows clenched fists.
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Can you see?
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No.
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There are cysts on her brain.
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She has a diaphragmatic hernia,
her stomach is sitting
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in her rib cage on top of her lungs
and her heart.
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It's on the wrong side of her body.
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Dr Brewster, I've found children
surviving to the age of 18.
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Those children have what's called
partial or mosaic Edwards'.
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Well, well,
then we'll look it up again.
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We'll get a second opinion.
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Mrs Fortress, your baby
has full Edwards' syndrome.
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Every cell in her body is wrong.
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I am so very sorry, but the syndrome
is incompatible with life.
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And we need to talk about what to do
if she survives her birth.
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She will be in a lot of pain,
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so whether to attempt resuscitation...
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... or just make her comfortable.
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You can go to the mainland.
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TOILET FLUSHES
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Manchester or Liverpool.
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I-I don't understand.
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Just go to the mainland, love.
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It's what all the women do,
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what we've always done.
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PIERCING TONE
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ECHOING FOOTSTEPS
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WHISPERS: Migraine.
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REPORTER: To Stormont now,
where MLAs will vote today
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on a controversial proposal
to allow abortion
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in cases of fatal foetal abnormality.
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It follows Judge Horner's ruling
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that the current law
breaches women's human rights.
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I'm trying to be excited
rather than scared,
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but it's just so many tests
and scans and monitoring.
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I'm constantly
in and out of the clinic.
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But, no, I would not rather be
sat on my bum at home.
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- SHE CHUCKLES
- Not until after I've stood right here,
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at Stormont, cheering on our victory.
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You might have a bit of a wait.
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The politicians up there'd
argue till kingdom come
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rather than make any useful decisions.
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Doesn't it ever get you down?
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The long old grind of it.
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I've been campaigning
for half a century.
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An old trout like me has to learn
how to pace herself.
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- HANNAH LAUGHS
- PHONE RINGS
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- Oh, God, is that the result?
- Hello?
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Yes.
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Oh, God, they voted it down?
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They really think they can just go
against the High Court
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in a human rights ruling?
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Well, they can think again
because we are not going anywhere.
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Up there,
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abortion is the only thing
they all agree on.
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APPLAUSE
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CHEERING
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NESBITT: It's Dickensian.
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This is Bleak House we are in today,
in the chancery courts,
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waiting day after day after day
after day
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for a decision that never comes.
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REPORTER: Following a passionate
debate at Stormont,
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the proposal on fatal foetal
abnormality was defeated
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by 59 votes to 40.
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Attorney General John Larkin QC
has advised the change could breach
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the UN Convention on the Rights
of Persons with Disability.
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They don't know what they're saying,
they've not been through it.
256
00:14:59,470 --> 00:15:02,203
John, I'm not sure
I can do this any more.
257
00:15:03,940 --> 00:15:05,300
Your campaigning?
258
00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:07,840
But you love it.
259
00:15:10,270 --> 00:15:12,403
I just can't go out there and...
260
00:15:12,790 --> 00:15:15,690
... look cheerful
when inside I'm such a wreck.
261
00:15:19,759 --> 00:15:22,016
I tell you what, then, why don't
the two of us stop at home
262
00:15:22,041 --> 00:15:24,114
and be a couple of wrecks together?
263
00:15:24,220 --> 00:15:25,340
- SHE LAUGHS
- Hmm?
264
00:15:42,892 --> 00:15:45,159
No, no, love, go back to bed.
I'll bring you something.
265
00:15:45,204 --> 00:15:47,024
It's OK. My migraine's gone.
266
00:15:48,976 --> 00:15:50,469
It's four days this time.
267
00:15:53,110 --> 00:15:56,694
Well, they're always so much worse
when I'm under stress.
268
00:15:57,190 --> 00:15:58,251
Stress?
269
00:15:58,510 --> 00:16:00,190
SHE LAUGHS BETWEEN TEARS
270
00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,856
I think you accepted it was hopeless
before I did.
271
00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,827
Maybe, but I'm not
the one going through it.
272
00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:29,800
It's OK.
273
00:16:30,999 --> 00:16:31,999
I'm ready.
274
00:16:34,390 --> 00:16:35,390
OK.
275
00:16:38,980 --> 00:16:42,216
Right, well, I've looked it all up,
and the law in Northern Ireland
276
00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,773
clearly says you can get
a termination,
277
00:16:44,990 --> 00:16:47,040
but only if the mother's life
is at risk...
278
00:16:47,740 --> 00:16:51,366
or there must be a risk of real
and serious adverse effect
279
00:16:51,390 --> 00:16:53,723
on her physical or mental health...
280
00:16:55,557 --> 00:16:58,224
... which is either long-term
or permanent.
281
00:16:59,110 --> 00:17:01,110
Rosie, that's you, that's you.
282
00:17:06,110 --> 00:17:07,110
SHE SIGHS
283
00:17:09,579 --> 00:17:10,579
Well,
284
00:17:10,684 --> 00:17:13,017
I have a fat old file to show them.
285
00:17:14,500 --> 00:17:15,780
HE LAUGHS SOFTLY
286
00:17:41,575 --> 00:17:43,760
ORLA: Ma, got any more teabags?
287
00:17:44,230 --> 00:17:45,963
Look in that top cupboard.
288
00:17:49,977 --> 00:17:52,980
- I'm off to work, then.
- Will I nip to the shop?
289
00:18:28,030 --> 00:18:30,930
You OK? Well, I didn't get
much sleep either.
290
00:18:31,300 --> 00:18:33,706
Orla caught me leaving the house
dressed like this...
291
00:18:33,730 --> 00:18:35,756
- the face on her.
- Now, listen, Theresa,
292
00:18:35,780 --> 00:18:38,636
I'm optimistic that the trial
may not start today, after all.
293
00:18:38,660 --> 00:18:40,340
No. No, not more delays.
294
00:18:40,770 --> 00:18:42,555
Our QC thinks
we've got enough to challenge
295
00:18:42,556 --> 00:18:44,926
the whole basis of the prosecution.
296
00:18:44,950 --> 00:18:47,686
I'm not going to see my wee boy
grow up, am I?
297
00:18:47,710 --> 00:18:50,310
I'm going to lose my family
and my home,
298
00:18:50,370 --> 00:18:51,946
and my son is going to lose his mother,
299
00:18:51,970 --> 00:18:53,206
and he's not even four yet!
300
00:18:53,230 --> 00:18:55,276
- He doesn't deserve this.
- You don't deserve it either.
301
00:18:55,300 --> 00:18:57,021
Jesus, I keep it together at home.
302
00:18:57,419 --> 00:18:59,915
I don't let them see,
you're the only one.
303
00:19:00,190 --> 00:19:01,310
But, Rachel...
304
00:19:01,815 --> 00:19:03,406
you've worked so hard on this...
305
00:19:03,430 --> 00:19:05,386
I mean, Jesus,
we're not even paying you,
306
00:19:05,410 --> 00:19:06,856
but I just feel like giving up.
307
00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:08,456
You're stronger than you know.
308
00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:10,486
The strongest person I ever met.
309
00:19:10,510 --> 00:19:11,510
Theresa,
310
00:19:11,857 --> 00:19:15,351
I can fight this to my last breath
if I know you're right beside me.
311
00:19:15,550 --> 00:19:16,750
We can do this.
312
00:19:23,390 --> 00:19:24,390
OK?
313
00:19:24,930 --> 00:19:28,166
FADING: There's no jury yet,
it's just legal arguments,
314
00:19:28,190 --> 00:19:30,390
so you won't be sitting in court.
315
00:20:12,670 --> 00:20:15,076
The judge has granted us
three weeks' delay.
316
00:20:15,100 --> 00:20:16,780
It's good, it's good.
317
00:20:16,830 --> 00:20:19,046
We're going to apply for judicial review
318
00:20:19,070 --> 00:20:21,676
to challenge the original decision
to prosecute.
319
00:20:21,700 --> 00:20:25,256
We're saying that forcing Orla
to continue a crisis pregnancy
320
00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,306
would have been inhuman
and degrading treatment,
321
00:20:27,330 --> 00:20:29,286
in breach of her human rights.
322
00:20:29,310 --> 00:20:31,366
She'll just be giving
a written statement.
323
00:20:31,390 --> 00:20:33,929
- No.
- She won't have to stand up in court.
324
00:20:33,976 --> 00:20:37,752
Look, she's 18 years old,
but she's still my child.
325
00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,120
Theresa... Theresa!
326
00:20:43,750 --> 00:20:45,683
- I said no.
- Orla's on the line.
327
00:20:47,830 --> 00:20:49,636
You went to her behind my back?
328
00:20:49,660 --> 00:20:51,100
No, of course not.
329
00:20:51,670 --> 00:20:53,270
She found my number.
330
00:21:03,070 --> 00:21:04,070
Orla?
331
00:21:06,500 --> 00:21:09,400
ORLA: You let me think
it'd all just gone away.
332
00:21:09,950 --> 00:21:11,566
I wanted to protect you.
333
00:21:11,590 --> 00:21:13,256
You already did that, Ma.
334
00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,947
You did it when I was a kid.
Now I'm not.
335
00:21:16,670 --> 00:21:20,446
They're threatening to send
my one and only mummy to prison.
336
00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,867
What am I meant to do without her?
337
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,240
Liam's only three.
338
00:21:27,360 --> 00:21:29,427
You want me to just do nothing?
339
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,864
I want for this to be
so none of this ever happened.
340
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,427
What doesn't kill you
makes you stronger.
341
00:21:39,010 --> 00:21:40,130
THERESA LAUGHS
342
00:21:40,420 --> 00:21:43,558
OK, I read way too much
self-help shite.
343
00:21:43,699 --> 00:21:44,699
Mm-hm.
344
00:21:45,670 --> 00:21:47,110
I mean it, though.
345
00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:49,360
I want to help.
346
00:21:52,190 --> 00:21:53,550
You want to help?
347
00:21:59,110 --> 00:22:00,936
You could do a bit more washing-up.
348
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:01,960
ORLA LAUGHS
349
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,421
- No, no, thank you.
- Oh, worth a shot.
350
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,766
A month till your A levels,
and you need to concentrate.
351
00:22:09,790 --> 00:22:12,526
Look, if I want to go see
this Rachel, I'll go see her.
352
00:22:12,550 --> 00:22:13,926
I'll go on my own, I don't care.
353
00:22:13,950 --> 00:22:15,336
Theresa, we talked about this.
354
00:22:15,360 --> 00:22:16,746
We agreed to keep her out of it.
355
00:22:16,770 --> 00:22:20,456
- Excuse me, but this is all about me.
- No, it's not. Listen to yourself.
356
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,636
Who's the one facing
five years behind bars?
357
00:22:22,660 --> 00:22:24,676
And that's exactly
why I need to do this,
358
00:22:24,700 --> 00:22:26,086
to make it all go away for her.
359
00:22:26,110 --> 00:22:27,686
How do you not see that?!
360
00:22:27,710 --> 00:22:30,376
Stop it, for Christ's sake,
the pair of yous.
361
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,278
Look, Orla, you're always saying
that you're a grown-up.
362
00:22:33,303 --> 00:22:35,007
OK, can you ever just try
acting like one?
363
00:22:35,039 --> 00:22:36,039
I am, Ma.
364
00:22:37,197 --> 00:22:40,845
This is what grown-up looks like,
standing up for myself.
365
00:22:44,610 --> 00:22:47,143
I want everyone to hear
why she did it.
366
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:50,640
Mark, you're coming too.
367
00:22:52,030 --> 00:22:53,390
I want you there.
368
00:22:58,820 --> 00:22:59,820
Please.
369
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:02,440
Fine.
370
00:23:12,658 --> 00:23:15,978
ORLA: I was only 15 years old,
and I was frightened...
371
00:23:18,167 --> 00:23:20,567
... at the prospect of being a mother.
372
00:23:22,133 --> 00:23:23,933
I was still a child myself.
373
00:23:24,771 --> 00:23:26,051
Still at school.
374
00:23:28,510 --> 00:23:31,310
And I had always planned
to do my A levels.
375
00:23:32,540 --> 00:23:34,473
I wanted to go to university.
376
00:23:39,933 --> 00:23:42,962
I had begun telling my mother
bit by bit...
377
00:23:44,590 --> 00:23:48,926
about all the ways
that my ex-boyfriend had treated me.
378
00:23:50,830 --> 00:23:52,488
The idea of him...
379
00:23:54,690 --> 00:23:56,890
being the father of my child...
380
00:23:57,630 --> 00:23:59,596
and being in my life in the long term
381
00:23:59,620 --> 00:24:01,300
made me physically ill.
382
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,569
I was also genuinely afraid...
383
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,220
that he could physically abuse
the child...
384
00:24:11,470 --> 00:24:14,478
if I decided to go through
with the pregnancy.
385
00:24:17,660 --> 00:24:19,626
Bringing it all back, it's not fair.
386
00:24:19,650 --> 00:24:21,476
She shouldn't have to do this.
387
00:24:21,523 --> 00:24:22,767
I do, though.
388
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,107
I've never told you, Orla...
389
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:33,481
... that you are brave
and clever and beautiful.
390
00:24:34,990 --> 00:24:37,404
Your mother's daughter, 100%.
391
00:24:39,360 --> 00:24:41,160
We're all in this together.
392
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:43,240
From now on.
393
00:24:50,050 --> 00:24:52,650
ROSIE: A full-on nervous breakdown,
yes,
394
00:24:53,180 --> 00:24:56,036
on top of these terrible migraines.
395
00:24:56,900 --> 00:24:59,890
We were living in Birmingham and
396
00:24:59,945 --> 00:25:02,600
I was ill, so ill,
397
00:25:03,490 --> 00:25:05,223
for days and days on end -
398
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,280
sickness, diarrhoea -
399
00:25:08,030 --> 00:25:09,897
and nothing could stop them.
400
00:25:11,550 --> 00:25:13,883
I couldn't work, couldn't go out...
401
00:25:15,330 --> 00:25:18,253
And the pain, it's so intense
402
00:25:19,270 --> 00:25:22,105
that it's crippling, really.
403
00:25:22,618 --> 00:25:25,217
And I just reached the end of my rope.
404
00:25:27,310 --> 00:25:31,321
There was a psychotic episode,
and they wanted to take me
405
00:25:31,490 --> 00:25:34,647
into hospital, but my husband
thought it might help me more
406
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,620
if they brought me home,
to Northern Ireland.
407
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,853
I said, "You don't know the place."
408
00:25:43,150 --> 00:25:45,417
I can see a history of depression.
409
00:25:48,610 --> 00:25:51,851
I believe my file shows
410
00:25:52,900 --> 00:25:56,218
the risk to my mental health
is significant.
411
00:25:57,500 --> 00:25:59,929
I believe I meet the legal test.
412
00:26:00,190 --> 00:26:03,764
Abortion on mental health grounds
is really, in practice,
413
00:26:03,797 --> 00:26:05,043
not possible.
414
00:26:05,230 --> 00:26:08,801
Well, for a woman in my position,
though,
415
00:26:09,470 --> 00:26:12,003
- the law clearly states...
- Mrs Fortress,
416
00:26:12,610 --> 00:26:16,560
the legal bar is set very high,
so high that...
417
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:23,520
ROSIE STAMMERS
418
00:26:23,740 --> 00:26:26,142
I am carrying a baby...
419
00:26:26,688 --> 00:26:28,821
with no chance of life.
420
00:26:29,323 --> 00:26:32,342
I can see how distressing
this is for you.
421
00:26:33,150 --> 00:26:36,542
But if you can't help me,
then who can? Where do I go?
422
00:26:36,670 --> 00:26:38,603
I-I can't advise you on that.
423
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,446
You can't advise me?
But you're a doctor!
424
00:26:41,470 --> 00:26:45,054
Look, we can manage your distress
with... with medication.
425
00:26:45,120 --> 00:26:46,120
No...
426
00:26:48,580 --> 00:26:52,067
What if I were to say to you,
Dr Coleman,
427
00:26:53,250 --> 00:26:54,530
that my distress
428
00:26:55,510 --> 00:26:59,396
is so acute
that I am contemplating suicide?
429
00:27:00,030 --> 00:27:01,710
What would you advise?
430
00:27:02,370 --> 00:27:04,230
Again, medication.
431
00:27:04,867 --> 00:27:08,515
That's medication that might
further harm my unborn child.
432
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,280
What do you advise?
433
00:27:15,310 --> 00:27:16,733
Doctor,
434
00:27:17,945 --> 00:27:20,356
look at my file.
435
00:27:23,260 --> 00:27:26,116
We have to work
within government guidelines.
436
00:27:26,140 --> 00:27:27,940
No, but if I don't qualify,
437
00:27:28,060 --> 00:27:29,180
then who does?
438
00:27:32,420 --> 00:27:33,420
SEAGULLS CAW
439
00:27:37,750 --> 00:27:38,750
£1,400.
440
00:27:43,630 --> 00:27:45,256
Plus flights to Manchester, yeah.
441
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,496
Yeah, I'll start looking at those now.
442
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:48,800
OK, thanks. Bye.
443
00:27:56,830 --> 00:27:57,870
PIERCING TONE
444
00:28:12,220 --> 00:28:13,220
ECHOING CAWS
445
00:28:19,390 --> 00:28:20,590
MUFFLED ECHOING
446
00:28:25,870 --> 00:28:27,310
LABOURED BREATHING
447
00:28:38,270 --> 00:28:40,036
DRIVER: Is she OK?
448
00:28:40,750 --> 00:28:42,536
I don't know if I can do this.
449
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,460
I can send the taxi away
and drive us myself.
450
00:28:47,545 --> 00:28:49,009
I can't see.
451
00:28:49,044 --> 00:28:51,418
Rosie, if we don't go now,
we'll miss the flight,
452
00:28:51,448 --> 00:28:53,390
we won't make the appointment.
453
00:28:55,940 --> 00:28:56,940
Oh, Rosie...
454
00:28:57,310 --> 00:28:59,086
DRIVER: Is there anything I can do?
455
00:28:59,110 --> 00:29:00,110
SHE COUGHS
456
00:29:02,020 --> 00:29:04,420
SHE SOBS
Oh, I'm sorry. I'm so sorry.
457
00:29:08,110 --> 00:29:10,177
SOBBING: Don't you ever say sorry to me.
458
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:12,536
DRIVER: Will I wait?
459
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:16,400
CAR DOOR CLOSES
460
00:29:20,110 --> 00:29:22,643
I wish I'd never brought you back here.
461
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:24,880
ENGINE STARTS
462
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:39,572
- What's that?
- Lizards.
463
00:29:39,650 --> 00:29:41,613
- And what's that?
- Bike.
464
00:29:41,705 --> 00:29:42,825
SHE GASPS
465
00:29:42,850 --> 00:29:45,646
He's going straight
to the top of the class.
466
00:29:45,699 --> 00:29:46,699
ORLA: Mam!
467
00:29:47,470 --> 00:29:49,526
- She won the lottery?
- No.
468
00:30:00,130 --> 00:30:01,130
Oh, my God.
469
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,406
I'm going to university!
470
00:30:06,430 --> 00:30:08,110
LAUGHING AND CHEERING
471
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:10,720
Oh, well done!
472
00:30:11,260 --> 00:30:13,286
You clever girl! Come here to me!
473
00:30:13,310 --> 00:30:15,823
Oh, listen, not for a year, though.
474
00:30:16,390 --> 00:30:18,523
- I'm going to defer.
- You will not.
475
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,253
No granddaughter of mine is
going to sit on a beach in Bali
476
00:30:21,254 --> 00:30:23,040
for a year picking her nose.
477
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:24,486
I need to be here for my mummy.
478
00:30:24,510 --> 00:30:27,310
Your mother will enjoy
the peace and quiet.
479
00:30:32,260 --> 00:30:33,940
I know something's up.
480
00:30:35,070 --> 00:30:36,803
I've known it for a while.
481
00:30:37,890 --> 00:30:40,296
Look, Liam, do you want
to go upstairs with Orla?
482
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,584
She'll read you a wee story.
Yeah, come on. Good boy.
483
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,000
FOOTSTEPS FADE
484
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,286
This is a really big day for her.
485
00:31:01,310 --> 00:31:02,990
Don't change the subject.
486
00:31:04,900 --> 00:31:05,900
I'm not.
487
00:31:08,867 --> 00:31:12,126
Three years ago,
we didn't know if she'd get here.
488
00:31:12,751 --> 00:31:14,069
- Drugs?
- No.
489
00:31:15,065 --> 00:31:16,065
Pregnant?!
490
00:31:18,353 --> 00:31:21,459
- What'd you do, take her to England?
- No, no.
491
00:31:22,750 --> 00:31:23,750
I just...
492
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,756
... got her some pills off the internet.
493
00:31:26,780 --> 00:31:30,166
Sure, there's a woman all over
the papers facing prison for that!
494
00:31:30,190 --> 00:31:31,190
Yeah.
495
00:31:32,950 --> 00:31:33,950
There is.
496
00:31:41,630 --> 00:31:45,086
All this time, I've been thinking,
is it money worries?
497
00:31:45,150 --> 00:31:46,830
Is her marriage failing?
498
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:48,933
Is it, God forbid, cancer?
499
00:31:49,310 --> 00:31:50,830
SHE EXHALES SHARPLY
500
00:31:51,230 --> 00:31:53,497
The sleep you've cost me, Theresa.
501
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,246
So why didn't you ever ask me?
502
00:31:55,270 --> 00:31:56,270
Excuse me?
503
00:31:57,790 --> 00:31:59,470
Who's in the wrong here?
504
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,406
My own daughter keeping something
as big as that from me?
505
00:32:03,430 --> 00:32:05,606
What kind of mother does that make me?
506
00:32:05,630 --> 00:32:07,656
The type I always wanted to please
and never could.
507
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,120
No, that's unfair.
508
00:32:09,730 --> 00:32:10,930
Come on, Mummy!
509
00:32:11,260 --> 00:32:14,204
If I'd have come to you
three years ago, Jesus!
510
00:32:19,900 --> 00:32:21,067
You're right.
511
00:32:23,110 --> 00:32:25,766
I would've called the wrath
of heaven down upon you.
512
00:32:25,790 --> 00:32:28,082
But the world is changing, pet.
513
00:32:28,390 --> 00:32:31,193
I know that. I watch the news too.
514
00:32:32,921 --> 00:32:34,921
Tell me what I can do to help.
515
00:32:38,530 --> 00:32:40,705
You can wait with me, Mammy.
516
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,093
Waiting's all there is to it.
517
00:32:48,510 --> 00:32:49,510
Oh...
518
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:10,800
SHE GROANS SOFTLY
519
00:33:46,300 --> 00:33:48,107
She's gone, isn't she?
520
00:33:52,510 --> 00:33:53,510
I felt it.
521
00:33:55,150 --> 00:33:56,750
The moment she died.
522
00:34:28,030 --> 00:34:29,150
I felt her go.
523
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,526
The birth will be induced,
524
00:34:36,550 --> 00:34:39,622
and I'll get you booked
into room five on Sunday.
525
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:41,760
Uh, room five?
526
00:34:43,650 --> 00:34:46,250
It's what we call the bereavement suite.
527
00:34:55,870 --> 00:34:57,870
You've not long to wait, then.
528
00:34:59,710 --> 00:35:02,832
Oh, I'm not as pregnant as I look.
529
00:35:04,742 --> 00:35:06,950
My baby has Edwards' syndrome -
530
00:35:07,650 --> 00:35:10,006
she can't absorb the amniotic fluid,
531
00:35:10,030 --> 00:35:12,688
so I just get bigger and bigger.
532
00:35:14,370 --> 00:35:15,503
Lord above!
533
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,160
I never heard of such a thing.
534
00:35:18,210 --> 00:35:20,610
I'm going into room five on Sunday...
535
00:35:23,110 --> 00:35:26,374
... and the baby I'll be bringing home
will be dead...
536
00:35:27,430 --> 00:35:29,110
... 'cos she's dead already.
537
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:35,186
I have to carry her around
inside me until Sunday.
538
00:35:38,500 --> 00:35:39,700
And she's dead.
539
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:44,040
And...
540
00:35:45,730 --> 00:35:48,130
... I need something for her to wear...
541
00:35:49,510 --> 00:35:51,643
... for whenever I bring her home.
542
00:35:54,110 --> 00:35:55,550
But I can't see...
543
00:35:58,030 --> 00:35:59,710
... I can't see to choose.
544
00:36:06,140 --> 00:36:08,671
This one's nice. This one's pretty.
545
00:36:27,710 --> 00:36:28,710
SCREAMING
546
00:36:35,260 --> 00:36:37,393
SCREAMING INTENSIFIES AND ECHOES
547
00:37:34,340 --> 00:37:35,780
MUFFLED BABY CRIES
548
00:37:40,930 --> 00:37:41,930
BABY CRIES
549
00:37:45,070 --> 00:37:47,086
I dare think
she is the most beautiful baby
550
00:37:47,110 --> 00:37:48,326
the world has ever seen.
551
00:37:48,350 --> 00:37:50,750
She absolutely is. She absolutely is.
552
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,320
Oh, my goodness, she is!
553
00:37:55,270 --> 00:37:57,646
I'm looking forward to
a bit of a quiet life now.
554
00:37:57,670 --> 00:38:00,003
SHE LAUGHS
With a baby in the house?
555
00:38:01,340 --> 00:38:03,020
You know what I mean.
556
00:38:03,330 --> 00:38:04,370
A quiet life.
557
00:38:05,350 --> 00:38:07,030
BABY FUSSES AND CRIES
558
00:38:55,433 --> 00:38:57,107
_
559
00:38:57,386 --> 00:38:59,566
REPORTER: Northern Ireland is
without a government tonight
560
00:38:59,590 --> 00:39:01,606
after the shock resignation
of Martin McGuinness.
561
00:39:01,630 --> 00:39:03,076
Under the power-sharing rules,
562
00:39:03,100 --> 00:39:05,326
his move forces
First Minister Arlene Foster
563
00:39:05,350 --> 00:39:06,536
also to step down.
564
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,286
The Assembly will be dissolved
in the next number of days.
565
00:39:09,310 --> 00:39:13,006
And that, of course, is deeply
regrettable, that Northern Ireland
566
00:39:13,030 --> 00:39:15,974
will have no Assembly
and functioning executive
567
00:39:16,270 --> 00:39:17,950
over the coming period.
568
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,616
The move ends a decade
of uneasy cooperation,
569
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,156
and all new legislation
570
00:39:22,180 --> 00:39:24,006
currently before Stormont will fall,
571
00:39:24,030 --> 00:39:25,796
including abortion law reform.
572
00:39:25,820 --> 00:39:27,340
Oh, for God's sake.
573
00:39:32,110 --> 00:39:33,390
Right. One more.
574
00:39:35,950 --> 00:39:38,596
The Private Member's Bill, yes,
we'd high hopes of that,
575
00:39:38,620 --> 00:39:39,816
but it won't happen now -
576
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,826
nobody left inside Stormont
to vote on anything.
577
00:39:42,850 --> 00:39:43,850
No...
578
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,216
Mother got the pills
for her daughter, yes.
579
00:39:46,240 --> 00:39:49,036
- Her judicial review is being set up.
- So it would have to be today
580
00:39:49,060 --> 00:39:51,406
- that the lift stops working!
- Oh, my God!
581
00:39:51,430 --> 00:39:52,996
Can I call you back?
582
00:39:53,020 --> 00:39:54,020
- Oh!
- Thanks.
583
00:39:54,670 --> 00:39:55,670
Oh!
584
00:39:56,230 --> 00:39:57,910
It's so good to see you!
585
00:39:58,630 --> 00:40:00,497
Oh, to see the both of yous.
586
00:40:01,030 --> 00:40:02,310
Oh, look at her.
587
00:40:02,750 --> 00:40:05,806
- Oh, she's like her da.
- All wee babies look like their da -
588
00:40:05,830 --> 00:40:07,396
to stop the man from straying.
589
00:40:07,420 --> 00:40:11,004
- You and your nonsense!
- Start her young... no time to lose.
590
00:40:11,390 --> 00:40:13,390
Oh, yes. Yes, I'm here. Hello.
591
00:40:15,070 --> 00:40:16,750
So what can I do to help?
592
00:40:17,410 --> 00:40:19,556
After all the letters we wrote
and all the petitions
593
00:40:19,580 --> 00:40:21,226
and all that work,
and what a waste of time...
594
00:40:21,250 --> 00:40:22,450
No, no, listen.
595
00:40:22,590 --> 00:40:25,516
The government collapse
and the power vacuum in Stormont,
596
00:40:25,540 --> 00:40:27,766
it's totally not a disaster for us.
597
00:40:27,790 --> 00:40:29,390
It's an opportunity.
598
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,656
We're already talking to women
at Westminster.
599
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:32,880
Starting again.
600
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,076
Westminster?
How long is that going to take?
601
00:40:36,100 --> 00:40:37,780
How long have you got?
602
00:40:41,262 --> 00:40:42,463
_
603
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,586
MARK: So that was your judicial review.
604
00:40:44,610 --> 00:40:46,696
Two whole days of lawyers in wigs
banging on,
605
00:40:46,720 --> 00:40:48,486
and we're still going home
without an answer.
606
00:40:48,510 --> 00:40:49,870
For God's sake...
607
00:40:50,110 --> 00:40:51,470
Reserve judgment?
608
00:40:52,990 --> 00:40:54,436
What's that supposed to mean?
609
00:40:54,460 --> 00:40:57,046
The judge has to go away
and think about it.
610
00:40:57,070 --> 00:40:59,403
How are you not furious about that?
611
00:40:59,650 --> 00:41:01,383
I know the waiting's hard.
612
00:41:02,350 --> 00:41:04,767
I don't know how you're still on
your feet after five years of it.
613
00:41:04,768 --> 00:41:06,596
What choice do I have?
614
00:41:06,620 --> 00:41:08,966
I've got children.
I've got to keep going for them.
615
00:41:08,990 --> 00:41:11,257
- I'm got to keep going for you.
- Huh?
616
00:41:12,430 --> 00:41:14,110
No, I'm not having that.
617
00:41:14,370 --> 00:41:15,730
I'm not that man.
618
00:41:15,910 --> 00:41:18,566
I'm the one you used to chatter on
to day and night.
619
00:41:18,590 --> 00:41:19,976
Before all this shite,
620
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,406
you were always ringing me up
about some nonsense.
621
00:41:22,430 --> 00:41:26,206
We were friends, best friends.
We could talk about anything.
622
00:41:26,980 --> 00:41:28,746
I miss that woman, Theresa.
623
00:41:28,770 --> 00:41:30,130
I miss that life.
624
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:33,489
If I let go...
625
00:41:35,110 --> 00:41:37,643
... if I let it all out,
even with you...
626
00:41:38,779 --> 00:41:40,846
... that wee bit of strength
that I have left,
627
00:41:40,870 --> 00:41:42,550
it'll all just leak away.
628
00:41:42,910 --> 00:41:44,510
Just let me in. Hmm?
629
00:41:56,350 --> 00:41:59,336
REPORTER: Our top story tonight -
should a mother go to prison
630
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,216
for helping her underage daughter
get an abortion?
631
00:42:02,240 --> 00:42:04,601
The High Court in Belfast
has been hearing all the arguments
632
00:42:04,626 --> 00:42:07,486
on the second day
of the landmark legal challenge.
633
00:42:07,510 --> 00:42:10,406
The mother and daughter,
who cannot be named, are seeking
634
00:42:10,430 --> 00:42:12,526
to overturn the decision to prosecute
635
00:42:12,550 --> 00:42:14,376
in advance of a criminal trial,
636
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,326
which could impose
a five-year prison sentence.
637
00:42:17,350 --> 00:42:19,666
Our legal correspondent has spent
the day at the High Court...
638
00:42:19,691 --> 00:42:20,854
For God's sakes!
639
00:42:20,883 --> 00:42:22,846
- ... listening to the arguments.
- It's inhuman.
640
00:42:22,870 --> 00:42:25,966
In seeking judicial review of
the Public Prosecution Service
641
00:42:25,990 --> 00:42:28,266
decision to send her for trial,
the mother...
642
00:42:28,290 --> 00:42:29,290
PHONE RINGS
643
00:42:30,670 --> 00:42:33,066
Right To Choose, Hannah speaking.
How can I help?
644
00:42:33,090 --> 00:42:36,526
Oh, I was just listening about
that poor woman and her daughter.
645
00:42:36,550 --> 00:42:38,116
Thought I wanted to help.
646
00:42:38,140 --> 00:42:40,340
Well, that's terrific. Thank you.
647
00:42:40,450 --> 00:42:42,916
Since Stormont went down the pan,
we've been encouraging everyone
648
00:42:42,940 --> 00:42:44,836
to lobby the Westminster government
to change the law.
649
00:42:44,860 --> 00:42:47,086
Can I take your name?
Only if you want to give it.
650
00:42:47,110 --> 00:42:48,110
Mummy!
651
00:42:48,830 --> 00:42:51,230
Sorry, I've got my daughter with me.
652
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:56,040
Uh...
653
00:43:00,930 --> 00:43:02,956
Maybe... maybe I'll call back
another time.
654
00:43:02,980 --> 00:43:04,746
No, no, please, please don't.
655
00:43:04,770 --> 00:43:08,226
I'm sorry for your trouble,
whatever it's been for you.
656
00:43:11,710 --> 00:43:13,070
My name's Hannah.
657
00:43:14,110 --> 00:43:15,110
I'm Rosie.
658
00:43:16,754 --> 00:43:20,274
Most of our friends
don't talk to us any more, you know.
659
00:43:21,470 --> 00:43:23,670
"Why don't you just get over it?"
660
00:43:24,670 --> 00:43:27,293
The thing is, I can't get over it.
661
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,111
I had a child and...
662
00:43:30,306 --> 00:43:31,672
now I don't.
663
00:43:36,580 --> 00:43:38,100
Will you try again?
664
00:43:40,350 --> 00:43:41,350
No.
665
00:43:42,460 --> 00:43:44,193
I'm too old... and too sad.
666
00:43:46,940 --> 00:43:49,140
You know the worst thing, Hannah?
667
00:43:50,643 --> 00:43:52,655
When they kept asking me...
668
00:43:54,940 --> 00:43:58,652
... "If she's born alive,
do you want us to resuscitate her?"
669
00:44:00,790 --> 00:44:04,884
Like we only got the right to choose
after she was born.
670
00:44:13,096 --> 00:44:15,121
_
671
00:44:16,190 --> 00:44:19,046
You know, whenever we first heard
about this inquiry, I thought maybe
672
00:44:19,070 --> 00:44:20,966
we'd get a nice trip to London
out of it.
673
00:44:20,990 --> 00:44:24,126
And here we are in a glamorous
night out in Derry.
674
00:44:28,270 --> 00:44:30,137
Hello, I'm Maria Miller, MP.
675
00:44:30,210 --> 00:44:32,936
I'm chair of the Women
and Equalities Select Committee
676
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:34,640
of the House of Commons.
677
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:36,586
We're here from Westminster,
678
00:44:36,610 --> 00:44:40,036
and we're really grateful to you
for coming along today.
679
00:44:40,060 --> 00:44:43,246
We want to hear a little bit
from each of you about how the law
680
00:44:43,270 --> 00:44:47,336
on abortion in Northern Ireland
has impacted you and your families.
681
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:48,360
So...
682
00:44:49,470 --> 00:44:50,470
Mrs Kennedy?
683
00:44:56,060 --> 00:44:58,127
Abortion was never on my radar.
684
00:44:58,430 --> 00:45:00,697
I had bought a house, got engaged,
685
00:45:01,180 --> 00:45:05,404
got married, planned to have kids,
tried for a baby, fell pregnant,
686
00:45:05,470 --> 00:45:07,150
and that was my path.
687
00:45:10,564 --> 00:45:12,101
Sorry, I'm a wee bit nervous.
688
00:45:12,190 --> 00:45:13,870
You're absolutely fine.
689
00:45:18,430 --> 00:45:20,686
There is something I really want you
to know,
690
00:45:20,710 --> 00:45:24,550
something that only really hit me
recently, five years later.
691
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:28,000
See, I was just talking
to this other woman, Rosie,
692
00:45:28,270 --> 00:45:31,598
and the thing is, I was asked
what I wanted to happen
693
00:45:32,230 --> 00:45:33,676
if my daughter was born alive.
694
00:45:33,700 --> 00:45:35,526
Do we intervene and resuscitate,
695
00:45:35,550 --> 00:45:38,494
or do we make her comfortable
and let her pass?
696
00:45:39,140 --> 00:45:40,820
So I was given a choice.
697
00:45:42,460 --> 00:45:46,473
Only then,
when she was no longer in my womb,
698
00:45:47,260 --> 00:45:50,209
only then was I allowed to decide.
699
00:45:50,804 --> 00:45:51,804
So...
700
00:45:53,463 --> 00:45:55,896
... to me and to Rosie,
701
00:45:56,605 --> 00:45:59,171
that does not make sense.
702
00:46:11,759 --> 00:46:13,313
_
703
00:46:13,627 --> 00:46:15,334
NEWS INTRO MUSIC
704
00:46:17,660 --> 00:46:20,136
Tonight, a potentially
game-changing moment,
705
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,376
as you've been hearing,
for pro-choice campaigners
706
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,046
in Northern Ireland, as Parliament
707
00:46:24,070 --> 00:46:26,326
voted by a landslide
to legalise abortion.
708
00:46:26,350 --> 00:46:28,217
The ayes to the right - 332,
709
00:46:29,590 --> 00:46:31,323
the noes to the left - 99.
710
00:46:32,770 --> 00:46:34,406
In the absence of an Assembly,
711
00:46:34,430 --> 00:46:36,046
come October the 21st,
712
00:46:36,070 --> 00:46:39,078
steps must be taken
to reform abortion laws here
713
00:46:39,490 --> 00:46:42,090
to comply with human rights
legislation.
714
00:46:42,240 --> 00:46:43,240
Yes!
715
00:46:43,990 --> 00:46:47,086
There's a deadline now,
but they've still got three months.
716
00:46:47,110 --> 00:46:49,446
Stormont could still get their act
together in time?
717
00:46:49,470 --> 00:46:51,496
Hmm... Even if we do get a new law
718
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:55,040
out of it, well, if it's imposed
by Westminster, it's...
719
00:46:55,420 --> 00:46:57,953
... it's unconstitutional,
is what it is.
720
00:46:57,980 --> 00:46:59,340
It's imperialist.
721
00:46:59,390 --> 00:47:00,390
Come on.
722
00:47:01,030 --> 00:47:03,952
- It's direct rule.
- I don't care.
723
00:47:04,390 --> 00:47:08,136
- That's 'cos you're a Protestant!
- No, it's because I'm a woman!
724
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:09,160
LAUGHTER
725
00:47:10,150 --> 00:47:13,006
REPORTER: Thousands of pro-life
campaigners have gathered
726
00:47:13,030 --> 00:47:15,436
at Stormont to mount a silent protest.
727
00:47:15,460 --> 00:47:18,116
The organisers claim support
from all religious backgrounds
728
00:47:18,140 --> 00:47:19,526
and political persuasions,
729
00:47:19,550 --> 00:47:21,576
united against
the Westminster deadline,
730
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,366
which, come October the 21st,
731
00:47:23,390 --> 00:47:26,806
will impose liberalisation
of the law against their will.
732
00:47:26,830 --> 00:47:30,222
Their message, "We were not asked.
They cannot speak."
733
00:47:31,390 --> 00:47:32,390
DOOR OPENS
734
00:47:50,140 --> 00:47:53,040
Maybe the politicians
will pull something off.
735
00:47:54,070 --> 00:47:56,686
Sort themselves out at Stormont
before the deadline.
736
00:47:56,710 --> 00:47:57,710
No.
737
00:47:59,710 --> 00:48:01,070
I don't think so.
738
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,000
Thanks for coming, Theresa.
739
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,126
I got home from Stormont,
and I thought, "It's just hopeless.
740
00:48:13,150 --> 00:48:16,670
The bad guys are winning,
and there's nothing I can do.
741
00:48:20,976 --> 00:48:23,475
Who can I call who won't
tell me I'm an idiot?"
742
00:48:23,556 --> 00:48:24,829
Don't be daft.
743
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,827
We're always here for each other,
aren't we?
744
00:48:31,230 --> 00:48:32,910
Here, do you know what?
745
00:48:35,260 --> 00:48:37,793
I didn't like you when I first met you.
746
00:48:38,350 --> 00:48:40,483
THERESA LAUGHS
Well, I liked you.
747
00:48:42,430 --> 00:48:45,566
Well, I liked everyone
when I was eight years old.
748
00:48:46,910 --> 00:48:48,843
Always so calm and forgiving.
749
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:54,144
Always picking me out of fights
and dusting me down.
750
00:49:02,850 --> 00:49:05,750
I wish you'd find the comfort here
that I do.
751
00:49:08,540 --> 00:49:11,440
Pope Francis says
every child that isn't born
752
00:49:11,470 --> 00:49:13,896
but is unjustly condemned
to be aborted
753
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:15,853
has the face of Jesus Christ.
754
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,120
The face of the Lord.
755
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,560
Maybe the wee girls
have his face too...
756
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,800
when we send them across the water.
757
00:49:32,350 --> 00:49:35,596
If you want the truth, Louise,
the reason I've stayed away
758
00:49:35,620 --> 00:49:37,553
from the church is because...
759
00:49:37,750 --> 00:49:40,417
I didn't know how to be a good Catholic
760
00:49:40,750 --> 00:49:43,150
and a good mother to a teenage girl.
761
00:49:57,950 --> 00:50:00,017
Whatever you do in your life...
762
00:50:02,110 --> 00:50:05,536
God is kind... and patient...
763
00:50:07,870 --> 00:50:09,390
and He loves you.
764
00:50:23,549 --> 00:50:25,470
_
765
00:50:25,655 --> 00:50:28,606
REPORTER: Deadline day at Stormont,
where the political parties
766
00:50:28,630 --> 00:50:31,846
have until midnight to agree
to form an administration.
767
00:50:31,870 --> 00:50:33,066
The stakes are high.
768
00:50:33,090 --> 00:50:35,926
If they fail to overcome
their differences, the Westminster
769
00:50:35,950 --> 00:50:39,342
government will step in
to impose abortion law reform.
770
00:50:39,810 --> 00:50:42,666
We're just hearing now
from inside Stormont.
771
00:50:42,690 --> 00:50:45,557
DUP leader Arlene Foster
has conceded defeat
772
00:50:45,910 --> 00:50:49,316
in her last-ditch attempt
to re-establish the collapsed
773
00:50:49,340 --> 00:50:51,020
power-sharing government.
774
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:55,016
It means, as of tonight, abortion
is no longer a criminal offence
775
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:56,640
in Northern Ireland.
776
00:50:56,710 --> 00:50:57,710
SHE SIGHS
777
00:51:49,510 --> 00:51:50,696
It is a very sad day,
778
00:51:50,720 --> 00:51:53,326
and I know some people
will seek to celebrate today,
779
00:51:53,350 --> 00:51:56,566
and I would say to those people,
think of those of us
780
00:51:56,590 --> 00:51:58,790
who are sad today and who believe
781
00:51:58,990 --> 00:52:02,686
that this is an affront
to human dignity and to human life.
782
00:52:02,710 --> 00:52:03,886
I think that the circus...
783
00:52:03,910 --> 00:52:07,396
I never thought I'd find myself
warming to that DUP woman.
784
00:52:07,420 --> 00:52:08,420
Hmm.
785
00:52:10,690 --> 00:52:12,690
She's shown a deal of dignity.
786
00:52:19,990 --> 00:52:21,356
We won't give up, no way.
787
00:52:21,380 --> 00:52:23,146
We'll get it overturned.
Night, love.
788
00:52:23,170 --> 00:52:26,754
Are the real doctors and nurses
willing to do it, anyway?
789
00:52:31,154 --> 00:52:32,834
He's already done it, Ma.
790
00:52:33,340 --> 00:52:37,180
Yeah, I know, but he never really
does the worktops properly.
791
00:52:37,630 --> 00:52:39,310
You're such a mother hen.
792
00:52:39,430 --> 00:52:42,330
Admit it, you even mother
a piece of string -
793
00:52:42,500 --> 00:52:44,700
it's like a default mode for you.
794
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:48,680
Ma...
795
00:52:49,220 --> 00:52:51,087
I'm the last man standing...
796
00:52:53,180 --> 00:52:55,447
and I still have to go to trial.
797
00:53:15,010 --> 00:53:16,966
REPORTER: It's judgment day
for the woman on trial
798
00:53:16,990 --> 00:53:18,436
for getting her daughter pills.
799
00:53:18,460 --> 00:53:20,876
She's attempting to get her case
thrown out on the grounds
800
00:53:20,900 --> 00:53:23,496
- of a recent human rights...
- to consider the case of the woman
801
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:27,552
facing trial for giving abortion
pills to her underage daughter.
802
00:53:36,450 --> 00:53:37,721
PHONE RINGS
803
00:53:58,460 --> 00:53:59,460
Hello?
804
00:53:59,590 --> 00:54:00,590
It's over!
805
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:02,760
Theresa, you're not guilty.
806
00:54:03,580 --> 00:54:06,588
The prosecution offered
no evidence against you.
807
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:10,399
Theresa?
808
00:54:12,220 --> 00:54:14,020
VOICE QUIVERING: Thank you.
809
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:19,756
I need a statement for the media -
they're outside, they're everywhere.
810
00:54:19,780 --> 00:54:22,246
I'm all over the place.
Let me think, let me think.
811
00:54:22,270 --> 00:54:23,270
Um...
812
00:54:29,500 --> 00:54:31,100
I find it hard to...
813
00:54:32,380 --> 00:54:34,580
put into words how I'm feeling.
814
00:54:39,940 --> 00:54:43,242
For the first time in six years,
815
00:54:44,030 --> 00:54:46,877
I can go back to being the mother
816
00:54:47,230 --> 00:54:51,728
that I was without this hanging
over me every minute of every day.
817
00:54:54,140 --> 00:54:56,673
And I can finally move on
with my life.
818
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:02,566
"I am so thankful that the change
in the law will allow other women
819
00:55:02,590 --> 00:55:05,446
and girls to deal with matters
like this privately,
820
00:55:05,470 --> 00:55:07,403
in their own family circle."
821
00:55:07,788 --> 00:55:10,884
My client has been put through
six years of agony.
822
00:55:11,230 --> 00:55:15,134
I hope she can now be allowed
to put it behind her. Thank you.
823
00:55:17,890 --> 00:55:20,444
Don't say anything.
824
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,460
Anything you say is just
going to make us cry again.
825
00:55:23,518 --> 00:55:25,766
I was only going to say,
fancy a fish supper?
826
00:55:25,815 --> 00:55:26,821
THEY LAUGH
827
00:55:26,911 --> 00:55:28,746
Oh, God, you know what? Yes.
828
00:55:29,079 --> 00:55:31,756
'Cos I want to go down
to the chippy and boast about yous.
829
00:55:31,780 --> 00:55:33,476
I want to tell the whole world
830
00:55:33,500 --> 00:55:35,846
what my brave and beautiful women
just did.
831
00:55:35,870 --> 00:55:37,937
- God, don't you dare.
- ORLA LAUGHS
832
00:55:38,620 --> 00:55:40,300
Come on, son, let's go.
833
00:55:41,830 --> 00:55:43,630
- I'll join ya.
- Come on, then.
834
00:55:48,930 --> 00:55:50,863
- Do you know what's funny?
- Hmm?
835
00:55:51,430 --> 00:55:55,398
I'd just gotten to the point
of really wanting my day in court.
836
00:55:55,460 --> 00:55:56,820
Oh, my God, stop!
837
00:56:00,130 --> 00:56:01,130
Oh, well.
838
00:56:04,220 --> 00:56:06,820
First day of the rest of our lives,
huh?
839
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,147
HANNAH: ... 46, 47, 48, 49,
840
00:56:15,910 --> 00:56:16,910
50, 51, 52,
841
00:56:19,070 --> 00:56:20,661
53, 54,
842
00:56:21,310 --> 00:56:22,859
55, 56,
843
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:25,162
57, 58,
844
00:56:25,750 --> 00:56:26,750
59...
845
00:56:27,790 --> 00:56:28,975
... 60.
846
00:57:17,497 --> 00:57:22,635
_
847
00:57:23,213 --> 00:57:25,983
_
848
00:57:28,770 --> 00:57:33,106
_
849
00:57:35,334 --> 00:57:43,334
_
850
00:57:47,381 --> 00:57:51,520
_
851
00:57:56,025 --> 00:58:01,025
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