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You learn by experience
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I became business-savvy because
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I learned very early on of how
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People get exploited
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With with art
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In general
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In or nnnn more specifically music
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How major labels make money
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You know because I'm thinking you know
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In a utopian society or somewhere on in some parallel universe you think that an artist
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The created
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Will get paid
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The most
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For it and then
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When you look at some of the book some of these
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Figures didn't line up and it's like wait you're only getting that and out of this because oh it's because we gave you this advance and you have to pay
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So I slowly learn that and then
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You know so I would always approach things a little cautiously when it came down to it you don't signing pieces of paper
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Burn
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Working with whom and why and then that kind of thing so I'm
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I was always wary of that
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To some degree
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You know you hear about
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Groups like TLC going f****** bank
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Like how does that happen
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I'm so so that I think that's what's kind of put this like
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Climate
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Here across everybody trying that you know
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Getting entering to a major record label deal or something like that
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So
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Of course
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To my surprise I I signed with an individual who shall not be named and I got f*****
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Cute like on everything and double dip and all that stuff in it and I had to get f***** before I learn that I got fun
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You know
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But I'm I'm eternally grateful that happened very early on in my career that I made a bad
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Decision that you know
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That I
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Grown now not to make worst mission tonight and then from that point on it's like okay well
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You know what I'm going to start learning
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Entry-level things like League music law and
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Publishing and how it all works I'm going to start learning a little bit so that so that I have a better understanding of the day
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Feels that I'm entering into
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But you know that's
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If you're if you're fortunate enough to get into that
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World it gets really interesting and nnn kind of fun
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Once you have control over it it's like having a night
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And and and having a versus having a lucid dream where is it like I would say like a nightmare
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You can't control you just kind of like this
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Passive
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Entity in this
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You know just taking everything where's that you know if you're having a lucid dream you're in and you know all this weird dark shift
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You can
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Get an understanding of the situation you're in and then make it work for you
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Major labels are kind of like being on the edge right now a lot of them have
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Have coalesced
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Into Vigor Ventures with more.
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But
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The last
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360 deal was actually signed about
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5 years ago in 360 meeting all-encompassing like I'm going to buy you a Xanax I can own your publishing ameritrain
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Ancillary Xylitol
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And all this stuff around it and we're going to give you one big thing and we're going to keep you on for
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510
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Whatever return
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But they're generally a really long
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Majors are kind of struggling to keep up with this
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You know
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All this flash-in-the-pan
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The only thing that's working for Majors right now are the AAA
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Massive acts that are on those labels and we're talkin the Rihanna's did the Jay-Z's that that that's what they're still kind
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Hanging onto and that's how they're you know recouping Aldi
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He's lots of fun
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What they really want to do is they want to cash in on the Denon now's and gone next week and then announce and gone neck
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Next week because
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Ultimately that
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The interest
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In artists
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Across all genres it is being you know
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It's so internet-based and it's so fleeting
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It's so quick
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Kickin It
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Only few catch on to develop careers of their own kind of think they're like
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You think about like YouTube
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You know what I mean there for a minute but
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I hope you guys like renstad Revenue because
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Casino the people will move on
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Something else music
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Kind of similar to that
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Especially if you are not
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Evolving as an artist entity
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Spaniard
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You're definitely only
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You know with my experience and I've been with
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You know
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3 or 4
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Major
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Labels and it's been nothing but
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Now I know why late record labels are record leave
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Levels because it's
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It's just a business model you're there didn't really
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How about in Creative decisions or anything like that or if they
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It comes to anything they don't care they they kind of want what everybody wants
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Something
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Off-the-shelf
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That's ready to go that'll salatul self that'll bring them in income
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You know
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And and of course they had you back
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That's like
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You know giving an artist a million-dollar advance
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Towards something that just means you're already in debt a million dollars now while you got paid that you know
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They're betting
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That you're going to make more than that
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Eminem pay that back and then hopefully do that plus
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A percentage over on the publishing that that label will own and all that stuff
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Then the label will go ahead and depending how
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Disgusting the f****** label is they'll go ahead and
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Charter
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Massive like streaming deals with
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Pandora and Spotify and all that
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Stuff for all the artists on their labels
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And then when Xtreme and Company throws that record label to check for sake 20 million dollars
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That record labels like cool got it
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But they have no idea how to propagate those funds to the artist so they just don't report it
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And I think that was one of us
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Taylor Swift big problems and how it and rightfully so because you know
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Out of all that money you took for a blanket license for all the music on your major label which is
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And covers a lot of sub labels and artists all the way including EDM Artists and pop Acts
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Hip hop guys
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How do I know
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Which my stuff on Pandora was
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Was streamed or on Spotify with streamed or what
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And how are you doing that payment on there like 11 then we don't know he's got a
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Am I in
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You can't
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Ever have a person at a major label who's looking after you
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And just you
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You know or even though I mean looking at for not looking out for just looking after like
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There was never anyone point-of-contact I could call and say hey how are we doing with this
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Alright
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Thanks for the help
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Yeah
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So not really needed
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But a label none the less you will need to label whether it's major in the
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Or or kind of somewhere in the middle which is where I think I am
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You got to have a team
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You're going to need a team no matter what
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I'll wait at accounting legal in management is usually your three major food groups of everything was where your
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Management clinic
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Langels everybody
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You know I counting just deals with
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You know money is in out whether it's you know
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200 bucks from Plano Pub
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4/2 million from playing fast
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That all that's all
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Very relative on all levels
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And in a good lawyer
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You know someone you could try so when you like you know don't ever work with someone you can't stand to be around
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Even if they do a better job than someone else
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That's very important
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But there is one bit of advice
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I should
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You know I'd that I think even
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A lot of
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AAA artist right now
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Could benefit from is
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If you get to the point or if you're already at the point
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Call your accountant
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And if he can't answer you
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The answer to how much money do I have in less than one sentence
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You need to fire that accountant and get a new one
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In nu really need a really well
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Oiled machine with moving parts that all work together harmoniously
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Efficiently as possible
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And that means
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You know
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Never have too many cooks in the kitchen light
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Ayenda
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And just make sure
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All communication is transparent
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Ultimately your tracks will sell online
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At least today
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In-N-Out how to do that
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Effectively is you know to
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Sell-through iTunes know how do you do that you know like cuz not just every Joe Schmo can make
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Aggregation service in farm near stuff and have
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Personal relationships with iTunes music and have their CD soul.
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Ford
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Way back when it really internet there used to be some models that would allow you to sell
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You know I your music online for
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For very cheap like
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With a free service and then you would ultimately get paid for it but we're talkin like maybe
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3 to $4 a month
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Hey if you're lucky
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On thousands and thousands of plays or downloads and stuff like that was MP3.
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Scamming they got
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Now they have services like
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SoundCloud
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Which
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Are great but you can't sell anything out of SoundCloud it's just a big promotion networking
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There's only went one winner walking away from SoundCloud MIT SoundCloud you no answer
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So that's not cool
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And you know selling music online
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I think comes after you've developed
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A sort of following now doesn't have to be a million people doesn't have to be hundreds of thousands
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Some people just kind of thing that you could
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A website you know
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Anything like that there are plenty of
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You know Gateway payment systems
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You can use PayPal
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Are all that stuff text to aggregate your stuff
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Out until you can afford or until you're given the opportunity to work with the digital aggregation
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System that will
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Farming music out
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Streaming in
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Why make albums
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That's that's a good question
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I mean albums albums I guess
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Traditionally speaking all all major label we need to sell music on in package
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Aside
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Alton's rrr cool like
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The bodies of work
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You know that that
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Span over
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Ball like
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Or actually
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Around
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75 minutes
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Of Music which is
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It's kind of like a nice
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Length of
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How to to listen
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Through
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An entire Year's worth
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The work order
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Week surf
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Amongst
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Decades who knows
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But I mean they're not
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Hayirli necessarily I could actually seen
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Now
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Having moving back actually not doing any albums and just releasing singles all the
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The time I in electronic music I really would
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Be that weird to not ever have an album and then
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Just released singles
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But I tend to do is just
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Just make music f***
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You know just
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Keep going right all this stuff that you you know in some years obviously I've noticed sound different than other years
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Panda
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And then I I take my whole collection of music that I've made and I'll go in and then and just
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Pretty last minute
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Say okay
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This would be tracked to no wait this will be tracked to and then the subtract 3
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Done call ml
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You don't
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Get paid
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Buy more of this
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Or whatever
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Song titles in album titles don't come to me at all
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So I just
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Arbitrarily name them
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Whatever
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Very
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I'm very weird
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So it
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I hate that first started off as a joke with me because I remember I'm
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A time when I was in the back of a cab on tour and they were pressing one of my albums like neck
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And one of the the
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The
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Songs that are
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Concluded
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In the release package that went to management that went to
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Printing press
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Didn't have a title it was just
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Track 2
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Or some or something like that
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Can I get sent
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Off into the thing and then
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And then being my manager
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In a frantic calling my tour manager was sitting beside me in the
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In the cabinet or manager looks over to me so
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Hey you don't Dean's on the phone he needs you to
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Keen shoes
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He needs you to name this track right this second
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Because Dean is literally on the other end
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Ready to hit send on a
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File to go out
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And so
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Call Seth
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And I quote
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You need to name this song right
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I mean the song right this second
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Cuz I need it
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Do it
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So I said okay finding youwin write this
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Can I go just
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Couldn't write this
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You like right this second it was all year yeah you're funny and I'm like no seriously and I hung up the phone and it went out to
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Prank called right this second
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I'm and then I'll Municipal you know what what about the album named I don't know just give it to me random album title
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And then he's like
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Oh okay so he's playing the same game I'm playing he called it random album.
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There you go
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You know my whole logic behind you do me mean tracks
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Some titles is like
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A Rose by Any Other Name you know like it's
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The name is not going to change
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The popularity of
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Attract
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Unless you called it s***
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You might actually not sell as many
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Doing that
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