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-The Capitol area sniper
has killed nine people,
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and a law enforcement army is
after the shooter, or shooters.
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-They have a very strong
lead in this case
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-The victim was shot
as he stood on the top step
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of a ride-on bus at Grand Pre
Road and Georgia Avenue.
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No word on his condition.
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-He dropped a piece of evidence.
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That turned out to be
the owners' manual
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for the Bushmaster rifle.
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It had 36 fingerprints
of identifiable quality
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in that magazine.
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-Authorities said
the possibility
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that a sniper and driver
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are working together
is gaining credence.
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-Then I was like, "Okay, that's
the kid, and that's John."
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-Well, it started with Lee Malvo
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enrolling
in the high school here,
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and there was questions whether
Lee Malvo had entered
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the country legally.
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The school had
a pretty hard time
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trying to get any information
out of him.
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We have John Muhammad,
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a gentleman that's referred to
as his father,
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as his guardian, a friend.
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Uh, we don't know
what he's doing.
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It just didn't add up.
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So we reached out to his mother.
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{\an8}-I got a call from Al Jensen,
asking for help.
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He suggested that they were
frequently known to hang out
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at the YMCA
in downtown Bellingham.
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The manager confirmed
that they're in the building
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but where, I don't know.
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When I heard voices and...
Coming from the locker room.
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I walked in and was immediately
surprised by Lee Malvo
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and John Muhammad
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coming out of the shower area
of the locker room naked.
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The hair on my neck went up
because I thought,
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"This is not normal
to see a father figure
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and his son coming out of a
group shower together like this.
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What have I stumbled into here?"
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I showed him my badge and I.D.
and asked, "Are you Lee Malvo?"
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And he said, "Yes sir."
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And I asked Lee Malvo,
"Is he with you?"
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And, to me,
it's an obvious question.
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You just came out
of the gym naked with him.
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Obviously, you're together,
and Lee said, "Yes."
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I asked John Muhammad,
"Are you with him?"
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And he wouldn't answer me.
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I said, "I'm talking to you.
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He said he's with you.
Are you with him?"
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"No."
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"Okay, do you want to go
with him to the station?"
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"No."
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I drove Lee Malvo back
to the Bellingham station
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to process him for deportation
as a stowaway.
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We took photographs
and fingerprints,
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which are not
normally required for juveniles.
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And that was the last
I ever saw of him.
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- Hello. This is a call from...
- Lee Malvo
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-An inmate at the Virginia
Department of Corrections,
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Red Onion State Prison.
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-41-year-old man, John Muhammad,
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and a Jamaican-born teenager.
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-"Sniper team that terrorized
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the Washington
metropolitan area."
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-19-11 I have one down.
There's blood all over.
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-For three weeks,
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the most intense manhunts
in American history.
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-The serial killer hunting
down random citizens.
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-We have fear levels here
that I think are higher
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than they were
after September 11th.
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-President Bush is talking
about fighting Iraq,
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and we have a war zone
right here in his own country.
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-Ohh! Oh!
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Oh, man! Oh, man!
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-This was found at the shooting
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of the Montgomery County bus
driver, Conrad Johnson.
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It's an additional note
left from the shooters.
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Looks a lot like the note
found at the Ponderosa.
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The same stars,
same handwriting.
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"For you Mr Police.
Call me God.
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Your incompetence
has cost you another life.
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Do not play these childish games
with us.
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You know our demands.
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Next person, your choice.
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P.S. Your children
are not safe."
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-CNN did not report yesterday,
at the request
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of law enforcement officials,
that within that letter,
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there were also unspecified
threats made against children
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if certain demands were not met.
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-The media wanted to know
what was said,
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the public wanted to know
what was said,
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and I went to the chief
and I said
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that this is sort of
getting a life of its own.
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"They think we're jeopardizing
the children.
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They don't trust us. This...
We have to say something."
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-Here comes Chief Charles Moose,
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the man of the hour, if you
will, taking the podium.
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-We recognize the concerns
of the community,
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and therefore are going
to provide the exact language
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in the message
that pertains to the threat.
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It is in the form
of a postscript.
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"Your children are not safe
anywhere at any time."
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-It was a very helpless feeling
and a frustrating feeling...
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Own up to the fact
that we can't protect you,
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we can't stop this,
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we haven't been able
to stop this,
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and the shooter
is basically gloating.
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And it hurt to say it.
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-A chilling message released
by Maryland police
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just moments ago, believed
to have come from the sniper.
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-Children are not safe anytime,
anywhere.
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-Fear tightened its grip
on the region.
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A sniper considers
their children targets.
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-I don't understand this being
nice to the police.
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They're dismal failures.
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-The Chief said the other day,
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"You're not the one responsible
for catching this guy.
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We are. And until that changes,
let us do our job.
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-You're not doing the job.
You haven't caught him.
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You don't even know
what he looks like.
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We don't know if it's a man,
a boy.
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-Yeah, Pam, Zack,
is your mom there?
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Hey, sweetie.
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At the end of the conference,
they read a statement.
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The guy said,
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"P.S. Your children are not safe
anywhere at any time."
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Just keep them...
Keep them in the backyard.
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Don't let them ride their bikes
or anything.
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I mean, we'll send them
to school,
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but I'll take them to school.
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They waited until today
to tell us that,
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and that happened Saturday.
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So, you know,
that's the kind of stuff
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that really pisses you off
as a parent.
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I want to know that stuff
when it happens.
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I don't want to be told
about it three days later.
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-You drive all around
the country and, um,
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everybody's got
their little police car painted,
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and, you know, and it's
"to serve and protect."
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Well, you know, we didn't...
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We didn't fulfill
the bargain of protect.
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-We were trying our best, but it
just always will be in my mind,
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a real failure, um,
that we couldn't protect them.
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-Investigators are scouring
for any evidence,
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like a bullet casing,
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that a sniper
might have left behind.
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-We were really sucking it up
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and thinking about, "Damn it.
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You know, what are we missing?
What can we do?
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Where are we dropping
the ball here?
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Something's got to give."
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-It's amazing to me
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that somebody could actually
shoot 13 people
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without leaving any evidence
behind, other than these notes.
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-That fingerprint from
the magazine that was found
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at a shooting
in Montgomery, Alabama,
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it was just another little piece
of a puzzle sitting out there.
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Our task force decided,
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lets run that fingerprint
against the database,
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which includes
immigration records.
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And there was a match.
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-I got the phone call
from the command post
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telling me that the fingerprint
had returned
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to an immigrant from Jamaica,
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a Lee Boyd Malvo.
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-Who is Lee Boyd Malvo?
Who may he be associated with?
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Where does he live?
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And that's when we started
to piece things together.
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-They had discovered the arrest
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that I had made
about a year ago.
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These are a copy
of Lee Malvo's fingerprints
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that I took when
I processed him for deportation.
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They were submitted to the FBI.
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-I had that file within
a-a very short period of time.
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There was a photograph included
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with his
immigration information.
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And then I saw references
within that record
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to John Allen Muhammad
or John Allen Williams.
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And in one of those reports,
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Lee Malvo was referenced
as Muhammad's son.
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You kind of get a feel for when
you've got good information
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in these types of cases,
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and this was
one of those moments
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where we have something here.
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We've got to really
dig into this.
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I start gathering information
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on John Allen Muhammad,
John Allen Williams,
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all of his military records.
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I now see John Allen Muhammad's
ex-wife.
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Now I saw reports related
to Mildred Muhammad
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and a kidnapping, at one time,
regarding his own children.
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She was a critical piece to me
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that brings John Muhammad
into the Maryland area.
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And my theory at that time
is that Lee Malvo,
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who in their world is his son,
they are together.
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-The D.C. sniper task force
were trying to dig up
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as much information they could
about a John Muhammad.
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I heard the name, and I said,
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"Hey, I had just received
a call the other day
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regarding that, on the tip line
from Robert Holmes."
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It became very urgent
that we contact him,
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so I called Mr. Holmes
into the office,
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and from that point on,
things went 100 miles an hour.
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-I just told them I think
I know who the D.C. sniper is.
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I said he was a buddy of mine
in the army,
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John Allen Muhammad,
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and he may be travelling
with, uh, Lee Boyd Malvo.
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-He advised us that both
Lee Malvo and John Muhammad
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were at his residence
three times
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within the last six months.
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They had an assault rifle
with a sniper, uh, scope on it.
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-And that's when I asked them,
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if they got a bullet
from the AR-15,
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could you match it
to the bullets in the killings?
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And he said, "Yeah," and I said,
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"Well, he fired into
the tree stump in my backyard."
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I believe he was about right
here, in relation to the...
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To the trunk that's right there.
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-We decided, "Okay, we need
to get that tree stump."
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-I was still working on pictures
of John Allen Williams
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or John Allen Muhammad.
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I had found a California
driver's license,
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and I got a hold of a friend
of mine out in San Diego,
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and I said, "I need
a picture of this guy."
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He called me at 1:30, 2:00
in the morning, and he said,
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"Hey, I've got your picture,
when do you need this?"
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I said, "I need it right now."
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He said,
"Well, what's the hurry?"
286
00:17:39,058 --> 00:17:40,744
I said,
"Well, take a good look at it,
287
00:17:40,768 --> 00:17:42,913
because I believe you're
looking at one of the snipers
288
00:17:42,937 --> 00:17:45,749
involved in the shootings
here in the Washington area."
289
00:17:45,773 --> 00:17:53,773
290
00:17:55,533 --> 00:17:58,845
I began to call around
to the different command posts.
291
00:17:58,869 --> 00:18:01,223
"Has any police officer
around the country
292
00:18:01,247 --> 00:18:05,352
made an inquiry
on John Allen Muhammad?"
293
00:18:05,376 --> 00:18:08,188
I started getting information
coming in,
294
00:18:08,212 --> 00:18:12,317
and one piece
caught my attention.
295
00:18:12,341 --> 00:18:15,195
The Baltimore Police department
had made an inquiry
296
00:18:15,219 --> 00:18:17,489
into John Muhammad
on October 8th.
297
00:18:17,513 --> 00:18:22,869
298
00:18:22,893 --> 00:18:28,041
Officer Jim Snyder detained him
in a parking lot,
299
00:18:28,065 --> 00:18:31,336
{\an1}but he had no reason to further
his investigation at that point.
300
00:18:31,360 --> 00:18:33,338
301
00:18:33,362 --> 00:18:35,173
He confirmed
that driver's license
302
00:18:35,197 --> 00:18:38,218
is the one that I'm looking at
in all my paperwork,
303
00:18:38,242 --> 00:18:39,970
so now I know it's him.
304
00:18:39,994 --> 00:18:42,347
305
00:18:42,371 --> 00:18:47,269
Officer Snyder was able
to write down the vehicle.
306
00:18:47,293 --> 00:18:49,104
307
00:18:49,128 --> 00:18:53,317
It was a 1990 Chevy Caprice
with a New Jersey tag.
308
00:18:53,341 --> 00:18:54,735
309
00:18:54,759 --> 00:18:56,570
NDA 21Z.
310
00:18:56,594 --> 00:19:03,744
311
00:19:03,768 --> 00:19:07,372
{\an1}The FBI were able to search
this particular license plate...
312
00:19:07,396 --> 00:19:10,334
313
00:19:10,358 --> 00:19:13,253
...and came up with more
than a dozen inquiries
314
00:19:13,277 --> 00:19:15,922
from law enforcement,
all the way from Richmond,
315
00:19:15,946 --> 00:19:20,969
up into Maryland,
over a month's period of time.
316
00:19:20,993 --> 00:19:22,220
Huge piece of information
317
00:19:22,244 --> 00:19:23,764
because now it puts them
in the area
318
00:19:23,788 --> 00:19:25,432
during the time
of the shootings.
319
00:19:25,456 --> 00:19:33,315
320
00:19:33,339 --> 00:19:36,193
I was convinced.
321
00:19:36,217 --> 00:19:37,652
These are the guys.
322
00:19:37,676 --> 00:19:45,676
323
00:19:46,519 --> 00:19:49,206
-There was a knock on my door.
324
00:19:49,230 --> 00:19:51,625
"Is Mildred Muhammad here?"
325
00:19:51,649 --> 00:19:53,335
"Who are you?"
They said, "We're with the FBI."
326
00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:57,798
I said "Okay that's me."
327
00:19:57,822 --> 00:20:00,425
There was an agent walking back
and forth
328
00:20:00,449 --> 00:20:01,760
in the room on the phone.
329
00:20:01,784 --> 00:20:04,304
He stops, and he says,
330
00:20:04,328 --> 00:20:06,848
"Look, Miss Muhammad, we're
just gonna have to tell you.
331
00:20:06,872 --> 00:20:10,852
We're gonna name
your ex-husband as the sniper."
332
00:20:10,876 --> 00:20:15,357
333
00:20:15,381 --> 00:20:18,026
I said, "What? John?"
334
00:20:18,050 --> 00:20:19,694
My head hit the table.
335
00:20:19,718 --> 00:20:21,154
They said, "Yes, Miss Muhammad.
336
00:20:21,178 --> 00:20:22,489
Do you think he would do
something like this?"
337
00:20:22,513 --> 00:20:26,451
I raised my head.
I said, "What?
338
00:20:26,475 --> 00:20:27,661
Yeah."
339
00:20:27,685 --> 00:20:32,874
340
00:20:32,898 --> 00:20:36,503
I been trying to tell you that
this man is gonna kill me,
341
00:20:36,527 --> 00:20:39,506
and y'all not listening.
342
00:20:39,530 --> 00:20:43,301
They said, "Would you like to go
into protective custody?"
343
00:20:43,325 --> 00:20:44,970
I said,
"Have you caught him yet?"
344
00:20:44,994 --> 00:20:46,346
"No ma'am."
345
00:20:46,370 --> 00:20:48,223
"Do you know where he is?"
"No ma'am."
346
00:20:48,247 --> 00:20:50,225
"And you still have to ask me,
347
00:20:50,249 --> 00:20:52,561
do I want to go into
protective custody?"
348
00:20:52,585 --> 00:20:54,104
"Yes, ma'am, we do."
349
00:20:54,128 --> 00:20:57,357
"Yes, sir, I want to go
into protective custody."
350
00:20:57,381 --> 00:21:02,863
351
00:21:02,887 --> 00:21:04,489
-Can everybody please
stand down?
352
00:21:04,513 --> 00:21:06,950
The press conference
is gonna be delayed.
353
00:21:06,974 --> 00:21:09,202
- How long?
- Indefinitely at this time.
354
00:21:09,226 --> 00:21:11,705
We're gonna come out
in just a few minutes.
355
00:21:11,729 --> 00:21:15,417
Captain Demme will come out
and explain or talk through.
356
00:21:15,441 --> 00:21:18,545
-The day was moving fast
and furiously.
358
00:21:21,363 --> 00:21:22,924
We're pretty sure that
359
00:21:22,948 --> 00:21:25,302
these are the two individuals
that are involved,
360
00:21:25,326 --> 00:21:27,846
but without warrants,
we can't put it out.
361
00:21:27,870 --> 00:21:29,931
I appreciate you gathering.
362
00:21:29,955 --> 00:21:32,726
Unfortunately, there have
been developments in the case
363
00:21:32,750 --> 00:21:36,062
that we need to really focus on
right now,
364
00:21:36,086 --> 00:21:39,357
and we are not going to be
holding a press conference.
365
00:21:39,381 --> 00:21:41,693
- She's nervous.
- It's kind of mysterious.
366
00:21:41,717 --> 00:21:44,321
But maybe it means some progress
-Who knows?
367
00:21:44,345 --> 00:21:45,697
He could've called.
He could've not called.
368
00:21:45,721 --> 00:21:47,449
Have they got a tip?
369
00:21:47,473 --> 00:21:48,950
-I would bet my paycheck that,
uh, they're gonna come out
370
00:21:48,974 --> 00:21:50,076
with something tonight.
371
00:21:50,100 --> 00:21:52,120
They have to.
372
00:21:52,144 --> 00:21:56,082
-It is so close
and the task force has got names
373
00:21:56,106 --> 00:22:01,546
and they're keeping it close...
Enough time to build a case.
374
00:22:01,570 --> 00:22:04,049
I was praying nobody leaks it.
375
00:22:04,073 --> 00:22:05,175
Don't even tell me.
376
00:22:05,199 --> 00:22:07,117
Don't tell anybody. I wouldn't.
377
00:22:08,953 --> 00:22:16,953
378
00:22:19,630 --> 00:22:22,275
-We got out here
where Mr. Holmes was living,
379
00:22:22,299 --> 00:22:26,780
in an effort to recover
ballistic evidence.
380
00:22:26,804 --> 00:22:29,324
Tried to keep it
a very low-key search.
381
00:22:29,348 --> 00:22:31,159
Uh, that was the goal.
382
00:22:31,183 --> 00:22:35,121
We did not want to tip off, uh,
Mr. Muhammad and Lee Malvo.
383
00:22:35,145 --> 00:22:38,625
-"Get a couple of people,
put on flannel shirts.
384
00:22:38,649 --> 00:22:42,837
No one needs... can find out
about what you're doing."
385
00:22:42,861 --> 00:22:45,590
-This is the scene unfolding
tonight in Tacoma, Washington.
386
00:22:45,614 --> 00:22:46,967
Investigators have been
picking their way
387
00:22:46,991 --> 00:22:49,302
through the backyard of a home.
388
00:22:49,326 --> 00:22:51,388
-We had news helicopters
flying over.
389
00:22:51,412 --> 00:22:54,558
The news media was down the
block from Mr. Holmes' residence
390
00:22:54,582 --> 00:22:56,268
and, very quickly,
this information
391
00:22:56,292 --> 00:22:57,936
was on national news.
392
00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:02,816
-FBI agents, ATF agents
had swarmed into this home.
393
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,569
-We're in the office talking,
and someone says
394
00:23:05,593 --> 00:23:10,031
"Hey, take a look at MSNBC."
395
00:23:10,055 --> 00:23:11,366
-Investigators have been picking
their way
396
00:23:11,390 --> 00:23:13,076
through the backyard of a home.
397
00:23:13,100 --> 00:23:14,911
We're told they're looking for
bullet fragments to see
398
00:23:14,935 --> 00:23:18,206
{\an1}if they match fragments found in
the D.C.-area sniper shootings.
399
00:23:18,230 --> 00:23:20,166
-Perhaps lodged
in the tree stump,
400
00:23:20,190 --> 00:23:23,837
carefully cut and removed
from the property.
401
00:23:23,861 --> 00:23:28,842
-If he's seeing this,
he knows that his time is up.
402
00:23:28,866 --> 00:23:31,845
I start crying riding down
the road that night
403
00:23:31,869 --> 00:23:35,974
because, I said, when they catch
him they're gonna kill him.
404
00:23:35,998 --> 00:23:42,063
405
00:23:42,087 --> 00:23:44,107
-We didn't have the one critical
piece of information
406
00:23:44,131 --> 00:23:47,402
we still needed at that point.
407
00:23:47,426 --> 00:23:49,029
And that's where they were.
408
00:23:49,053 --> 00:23:57,053
409
00:23:57,269 --> 00:23:59,706
-We had a big discussion about,
410
00:23:59,730 --> 00:24:02,542
do we look for the car
and the plate,
411
00:24:02,566 --> 00:24:06,671
or do we use the media
and put the plate out
412
00:24:06,695 --> 00:24:11,575
and have all the people
in the world look for the car?
413
00:24:13,786 --> 00:24:18,266
The risk is that, if they're
sitting there watching TV,
414
00:24:18,290 --> 00:24:21,978
then they know to get rid
of the car.
415
00:24:22,002 --> 00:24:25,148
And I have to admit I was
probably somewhat apprehensive
416
00:24:25,172 --> 00:24:26,757
about that.
417
00:24:28,759 --> 00:24:32,781
-And, basically, we just said,
"It's gonna get leaked,
418
00:24:32,805 --> 00:24:38,161
so the decision will be made
for us shortly."
419
00:24:38,185 --> 00:24:40,705
-I... what I did next
was probably something
420
00:24:40,729 --> 00:24:44,209
that, uh, the leadership up
in Montgomery
421
00:24:44,233 --> 00:24:48,380
probably did not want me to do.
422
00:24:48,404 --> 00:24:51,383
I had a "Be On the Lookout"
national teletype
423
00:24:51,407 --> 00:24:55,261
sent across the country.
424
00:24:55,285 --> 00:25:01,101
I also knew that the media
monitored those broadcasts,
425
00:25:01,125 --> 00:25:02,793
and that they would
pick up on that.
426
00:25:05,713 --> 00:25:08,358
427
00:25:08,382 --> 00:25:09,651
-Are you hearing about
a New Jersey vehicle?
428
00:25:09,675 --> 00:25:11,361
- Yeah.
- License tags...
429
00:25:11,385 --> 00:25:12,904
-1990 caprice.
430
00:25:12,928 --> 00:25:15,323
-We've just learned that police
in the D.C. area
431
00:25:15,347 --> 00:25:19,619
have issued a lookout
for a 1990 Chevy Caprice
432
00:25:19,643 --> 00:25:21,329
-We also have a
license-plate number...
433
00:25:21,353 --> 00:25:24,249
NDA-21Z.
434
00:25:24,273 --> 00:25:27,085
-The media puts it out...
The car and the tag information.
435
00:25:27,109 --> 00:25:29,003
I didn't have it yet,
to put out.
436
00:25:29,027 --> 00:25:30,505
Neither did the other P.I.s,
but I was like
437
00:25:30,529 --> 00:25:32,215
"Okay, well if they've got it,
438
00:25:32,239 --> 00:25:34,384
and they've got it out there,
good for them."
439
00:25:34,408 --> 00:25:36,344
I mean, there... there was
nothing we could do now.
440
00:25:36,368 --> 00:25:37,804
This thing was moving
in front of us.
441
00:25:37,828 --> 00:25:39,305
-There's a huge juggernaut
442
00:25:39,329 --> 00:25:41,474
gathering steam
behind the scenes right now.
443
00:25:41,498 --> 00:25:44,811
As soon as someone spots this
car, they're going to respond.
444
00:25:44,835 --> 00:25:48,255
446
00:25:57,556 --> 00:25:59,767
-Get that camera out
of my face, okay?
447
00:26:07,816 --> 00:26:11,487
-We the jury find the defendant
not guilty.
448
00:26:26,210 --> 00:26:28,104
-The Police Chief Charles Moose
449
00:26:28,128 --> 00:26:29,939
is coming to the microphone
right now.
450
00:26:29,963 --> 00:26:31,465
The doors are opening.
451
00:26:45,854 --> 00:26:47,165
-A federal arrest warrant
452
00:26:47,189 --> 00:26:49,417
has been issued
for John Allen Muhammad,
453
00:26:49,441 --> 00:26:52,545
also known
as John Allen Williams.
454
00:26:52,569 --> 00:26:55,173
He should be considered armed
and dangerous
455
00:26:55,197 --> 00:26:57,574
and he may be
in the company of a juvenile.
456
00:26:59,868 --> 00:27:03,389
-The serial sniper investigation
takes some dramatic twists.
457
00:27:03,413 --> 00:27:06,017
-Finally, police are putting
a name out there.
458
00:27:06,041 --> 00:27:08,812
-Believed to be blue
or burgundy in color.
459
00:27:08,836 --> 00:27:11,189
License number... NDA 21Z.
460
00:27:11,213 --> 00:27:13,107
-Breaking developments
in this case,
461
00:27:13,131 --> 00:27:15,777
a man wanted for questioning by
the name of John Allen Williams
462
00:27:15,801 --> 00:27:18,154
or a John Allen Muhammad.
463
00:27:18,178 --> 00:27:20,740
-Okay, I got the picture.
464
00:27:20,764 --> 00:27:22,325
-This thing has engaged.
465
00:27:22,349 --> 00:27:24,536
It's gonna be
an enormous manhunt
466
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,955
by virtually everybody
in the country at this point.
468
00:28:09,646 --> 00:28:11,624
-This guy is never going to
give himself up
469
00:28:11,648 --> 00:28:14,168
because he is playing this
to the end.
470
00:28:14,192 --> 00:28:16,737
He wants his fantasy
to come true.
471
00:28:31,543 --> 00:28:38,508
472
00:28:40,344 --> 00:28:48,344
473
00:28:48,477 --> 00:28:56,477
474
00:28:56,610 --> 00:28:59,505
-I was working
the Washington, D.C., area
475
00:28:59,529 --> 00:29:01,716
servicing several supermarkets.
476
00:29:01,740 --> 00:29:07,180
477
00:29:07,204 --> 00:29:09,599
It was probably about 11:00,
11:30.
478
00:29:09,623 --> 00:29:11,809
Was kind of tired, so,
479
00:29:11,833 --> 00:29:14,979
"Well,
I'll just head on home."
480
00:29:15,003 --> 00:29:16,564
-With the latest
on the investigation,
481
00:29:16,588 --> 00:29:18,858
lets go live to police
headquarters in Rockville.
482
00:29:18,882 --> 00:29:21,361
-We've just learned
that police in the D.C. area
483
00:29:21,385 --> 00:29:26,115
have issued a lookout
for a 1990 Chevy Caprice.
484
00:29:26,139 --> 00:29:27,867
-We also have
a license-plate number...
485
00:29:27,891 --> 00:29:30,745
NDA 21Z.
486
00:29:30,769 --> 00:29:34,624
487
00:29:34,648 --> 00:29:36,709
-That was the first time
they had ever said anything else
488
00:29:36,733 --> 00:29:38,419
besides a white van.
489
00:29:38,443 --> 00:29:41,381
I scribbled down the tag number.
490
00:29:41,405 --> 00:29:45,051
New Jersey tag... NDA-21Z
491
00:29:45,075 --> 00:29:48,721
-So, is the white box truck
out in your opinion?
492
00:29:48,745 --> 00:29:52,225
-The white box truck
is out at this point.
493
00:29:52,249 --> 00:29:54,352
-Just when I was getting
on the beltway,
494
00:29:54,376 --> 00:29:57,563
Chief Moose started to give
his press conference.
495
00:29:57,587 --> 00:29:59,649
-A federal arrest warrant
has been issued
496
00:29:59,673 --> 00:30:04,445
for John Allen Muhammad also
known as John Allen Williams.
497
00:30:04,469 --> 00:30:07,073
He should be considered
armed and dangerous.
498
00:30:07,097 --> 00:30:10,743
He may be in the company
of a juvenile.
499
00:30:10,767 --> 00:30:13,371
-As I got up closer to
Frederick, Maryland, there
500
00:30:13,395 --> 00:30:15,164
on Route 70,
501
00:30:15,188 --> 00:30:17,417
I was starting to feel the urge
to use the restroom.
502
00:30:17,441 --> 00:30:18,751
Thought, "Well, I'll stop up
503
00:30:18,775 --> 00:30:20,837
at the rest area
on South Mountain."
504
00:30:20,861 --> 00:30:25,258
505
00:30:25,282 --> 00:30:27,093
-It's a New Jersey plate.
506
00:30:27,117 --> 00:30:28,594
John Muhammad
is believed to be...
507
00:30:28,618 --> 00:30:30,763
-As I pull up into the car lot,
508
00:30:30,787 --> 00:30:33,349
my headlights hit
the front quarter panel
509
00:30:33,373 --> 00:30:35,059
of a dark blue Caprice.
510
00:30:35,083 --> 00:30:37,770
-The all-points bulletin is that
they're armed
511
00:30:37,794 --> 00:30:39,897
and extremely dangerous,
and they warn, of course,
512
00:30:39,921 --> 00:30:44,235
{\an1}even police to be on the lookout
and be concerned about the fact
513
00:30:44,259 --> 00:30:47,030
that they could be armed
and dangerous.
514
00:30:47,054 --> 00:30:48,990
-I read the tag off.
515
00:30:49,014 --> 00:30:53,578
516
00:30:53,602 --> 00:30:56,039
My heart started racing.
517
00:30:56,063 --> 00:30:58,666
I was like, "Oh, man,
that's it."
518
00:30:58,690 --> 00:31:02,027
And I was really
excited by then.
519
00:31:23,715 --> 00:31:25,902
I could hear them,
but they couldn't hear me,
520
00:31:25,926 --> 00:31:28,112
and they hung up on me.
522
00:31:31,223 --> 00:31:35,411
So I knew I was gonna have
to move to get cell service.
523
00:31:35,435 --> 00:31:41,667
524
00:31:41,691 --> 00:31:47,697
So I pulled on over into the
truck area, and I called again.
525
00:32:07,926 --> 00:32:10,780
526
00:32:10,804 --> 00:32:14,200
-We had just moved into
this facility,
527
00:32:14,224 --> 00:32:15,743
so we didn't have any TVs.
528
00:32:15,767 --> 00:32:17,411
We didn't have radios.
529
00:32:17,435 --> 00:32:20,248
We were unaware that there
was a new lookout put out.
530
00:32:20,272 --> 00:32:23,876
531
00:32:23,900 --> 00:32:25,711
It was kind of a quiet night.
532
00:32:25,735 --> 00:32:29,173
533
00:32:29,197 --> 00:32:31,968
Out of the clear, blue sky,
one of my operators says
534
00:32:31,992 --> 00:32:35,680
{\an1}"Hey, I have this guy reporting
that he is with the blue Caprice
535
00:32:35,704 --> 00:32:40,518
that is being put out
for the lookout on the radio,"
536
00:32:40,542 --> 00:32:43,837
and my first thought is,
"What are you talking about?"
537
00:32:47,340 --> 00:32:51,612
We had no idea that they were
looking for a blue Caprice.
538
00:32:51,636 --> 00:32:54,240
I have to call down to
the command center,
539
00:32:54,264 --> 00:32:55,992
and lo and behold, it's true.
540
00:32:56,016 --> 00:32:58,578
We need to get police officers
up there right away.
541
00:32:58,602 --> 00:33:02,081
542
00:33:02,105 --> 00:33:05,001
-The duty officer says,
"Frederick car 662,
543
00:33:05,025 --> 00:33:08,212
switch over to private channel."
544
00:33:08,236 --> 00:33:09,672
Something was up.
545
00:33:09,696 --> 00:33:14,427
546
00:33:14,451 --> 00:33:16,596
And he proceeds to tell me
547
00:33:16,620 --> 00:33:21,017
that they believe the sniper car
was in the rest area.
548
00:33:21,041 --> 00:33:24,645
That was a brief moment there
where I think my heart stopped.
549
00:33:24,669 --> 00:33:30,443
550
00:33:30,467 --> 00:33:33,613
Are the snipers in that car?
551
00:33:33,637 --> 00:33:35,990
If they were, the odds were
very, very good
552
00:33:36,014 --> 00:33:39,184
that we were about to get into
a life-and-death gun battle.
553
00:33:41,645 --> 00:33:45,875
554
00:33:45,899 --> 00:33:48,502
-I was fired up. This is what
we've been waiting for.
555
00:33:48,526 --> 00:33:52,215
556
00:33:52,239 --> 00:33:57,845
-We got the call to be flown up
by our State Police helicopter.
557
00:33:57,869 --> 00:34:01,015
The biggest concern was that
we didn't want that vehicle
558
00:34:01,039 --> 00:34:03,935
leaving that rest stop.
559
00:34:03,959 --> 00:34:06,145
-I love helicopters,
I'm not going to lie about it,
560
00:34:06,169 --> 00:34:09,398
and, yeah, I was like,
"Yippee ki-yay. Here we go."
561
00:34:09,422 --> 00:34:17,422
562
00:34:18,890 --> 00:34:21,452
-When we land,
we all loaded up...
563
00:34:21,476 --> 00:34:25,081
564
00:34:25,105 --> 00:34:27,583
And we parked
at the bottom of the ramp.
565
00:34:27,607 --> 00:34:34,298
566
00:34:34,322 --> 00:34:41,013
567
00:34:41,037 --> 00:34:44,350
At that point, we moved right up
into the wood line.
570
00:34:49,129 --> 00:34:51,274
We're looking at points of cover
to go to
571
00:34:51,298 --> 00:34:54,610
if we start to get
into a shootout.
572
00:34:54,634 --> 00:34:56,362
There's no room for error.
573
00:34:56,386 --> 00:35:04,386
574
00:35:08,523 --> 00:35:11,085
-State police told me,
"From here on out,
575
00:35:11,109 --> 00:35:13,963
no matter what happens,
you stay in your van.
576
00:35:13,987 --> 00:35:16,215
Stay in your van
till we come and get you."
581
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,591
-I never thought
that they would both be sleeping
582
00:35:58,615 --> 00:36:00,134
at the same time.
583
00:36:00,158 --> 00:36:03,763
Just never, never would've
occurred to me.
587
00:37:06,850 --> 00:37:13,290
-Malvo had that dead-shark
look on his face.
588
00:37:13,314 --> 00:37:17,944
He looked like if he had
the chance, he'd kill us all.
589
00:37:22,699 --> 00:37:25,177
So I made a point to say
590
00:37:25,201 --> 00:37:30,832
"Trooper, if this man so much
as flinches, snap his neck."
591
00:37:32,083 --> 00:37:37,815
592
00:37:37,839 --> 00:37:41,527
-The most important thing
in the whole case was the gun.
593
00:37:41,551 --> 00:37:44,363
594
00:37:44,387 --> 00:37:47,408
I think everybody was thinking,
"God, get that rifle."
595
00:37:47,432 --> 00:37:54,874
596
00:37:54,898 --> 00:38:02,381
597
00:38:02,405 --> 00:38:05,384
-We had pulled up the back seat,
598
00:38:05,408 --> 00:38:06,969
and there's a rifle.
599
00:38:06,993 --> 00:38:13,893
600
00:38:13,917 --> 00:38:18,564
Pointed in my direction
but it was... there was a rifle.
601
00:38:18,588 --> 00:38:22,735
It was a great relief
that these were in fact
602
00:38:22,759 --> 00:38:24,469
the people we were looking for.
603
00:38:28,223 --> 00:38:32,077
-Breaking news from WTOP.
604
00:38:32,101 --> 00:38:34,330
-Two people sought by police
in connection
605
00:38:34,354 --> 00:38:36,081
with the sniper investigation
606
00:38:36,105 --> 00:38:38,250
are now under arrest
this morning.
607
00:38:38,274 --> 00:38:40,252
We have very fast-developing
details on this...
608
00:38:40,276 --> 00:38:43,339
-We expect more on this story
when Chief Moose
609
00:38:43,363 --> 00:38:46,258
holds a news briefing
in about an hour from now.
611
00:38:51,955 --> 00:38:54,767
-I'm glad we can laugh again.
612
00:38:54,791 --> 00:38:56,852
-We want the Moose!
613
00:38:56,876 --> 00:38:58,562
-Forward pattern.
614
00:38:58,586 --> 00:39:00,022
-It was a great relief to know
615
00:39:00,046 --> 00:39:01,732
that you were getting
the chance to go out
616
00:39:01,756 --> 00:39:05,694
and say that it was over.
617
00:39:05,718 --> 00:39:07,404
They just needed to hear that.
618
00:39:07,428 --> 00:39:13,327
619
00:39:13,351 --> 00:39:16,997
I just thought,
"Oh, my God, man.
620
00:39:17,021 --> 00:39:19,625
I'm just going to be the guy
that didn't catch them."
621
00:39:19,649 --> 00:39:21,961
622
00:39:21,985 --> 00:39:24,338
Weeks, months, years,
and then its gonna be,
623
00:39:24,362 --> 00:39:28,300
finally on the tombstone said,
"He didn't catch them."
625
00:39:31,995 --> 00:39:33,681
-And I remember there was
a bunch of little girls
626
00:39:33,705 --> 00:39:37,893
from one of the high schools
who came in with balloons.
627
00:39:37,917 --> 00:39:40,271
Y-You felt like
you didn't deserve that,
628
00:39:40,295 --> 00:39:41,438
but they're just saying,
"Thank you
629
00:39:41,462 --> 00:39:42,982
for giving us back our lives."
630
00:39:43,006 --> 00:39:44,692
- Chief Moose rocks.
- He's awesome.
631
00:39:44,716 --> 00:39:47,736
- Do you feel safe now?
- Yes.
635
00:39:57,604 --> 00:40:00,749
-All of the men and women
who have taken the oath
636
00:40:00,773 --> 00:40:03,836
and served in
the law-enforcement community,
637
00:40:03,860 --> 00:40:09,675
we do it for those victims
and their families,
638
00:40:09,699 --> 00:40:11,719
so we will never forget.
639
00:40:11,743 --> 00:40:13,846
We'll never know their pain.
640
00:40:13,870 --> 00:40:17,016
And we only wish
we could've stopped this.
641
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,185
642
00:40:20,209 --> 00:40:24,648
-It was almost like
a presentation at a funeral.
643
00:40:24,672 --> 00:40:29,612
It was respectful
of the people who had died
644
00:40:29,636 --> 00:40:31,155
and the people who were,
645
00:40:31,179 --> 00:40:34,533
you know, now gonna have
their lives back.
646
00:40:34,557 --> 00:40:36,201
-You know, I got myself ready.
647
00:40:36,225 --> 00:40:37,494
Thank you, Chief.
648
00:40:37,518 --> 00:40:39,830
Sorry to keep everyone
waiting tonight.
649
00:40:39,854 --> 00:40:42,124
And I knew what I was gonna say
and release,
650
00:40:42,148 --> 00:40:47,046
and it was important that I was
gonna say every victim's name.
651
00:40:47,070 --> 00:40:52,176
October 3rd, Premkumar Walekar
in Montgomery County.
652
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,304
Sarah Ramos, Montgomery County.
653
00:40:55,328 --> 00:40:59,516
Lori Ann Lewis-Rivera,
Montgomery County.
654
00:40:59,540 --> 00:41:02,210
Pascal Charlot,
Washington, D.C.
655
00:41:06,381 --> 00:41:09,360
A female was wounded
in Spotsylvania County.
656
00:41:09,384 --> 00:41:12,071
A child was wounded
in Prince George's County.
657
00:41:12,095 --> 00:41:15,240
Dean Harold Meyers,
Prince William County, Virginia.
658
00:41:15,264 --> 00:41:18,410
Kenneth Bridges,
Spotsylvania County, Virginia.
659
00:41:18,434 --> 00:41:21,413
Linda Franklin,
Fairfax County, Virginia.
660
00:41:21,437 --> 00:41:24,333
A gentleman was wounded
in Hanover County, Virginia.
661
00:41:24,357 --> 00:41:27,544
Conrad Johnson,
Montgomery County, Maryland.
662
00:41:27,568 --> 00:41:30,506
663
00:41:30,530 --> 00:41:32,508
-It came across the news
that they were caught.
664
00:41:32,532 --> 00:41:34,301
We were relieved.
666
00:41:38,621 --> 00:41:44,186
But then I'm like, "Two days."
667
00:41:44,210 --> 00:41:48,315
Oh, my gosh.
You know, if only...
668
00:41:48,339 --> 00:41:54,279
If only they could've
caught them two days earlier,
669
00:41:54,303 --> 00:41:56,407
my husband would still be alive,
670
00:41:56,431 --> 00:42:00,869
and we could still
go on with our lives.
671
00:42:00,893 --> 00:42:03,956
-In that trailer
is the automobile.
672
00:42:03,980 --> 00:42:05,582
There goes the vehicle now.
You can see it.
673
00:42:05,606 --> 00:42:07,918
It just goes past us
right there.
674
00:42:07,942 --> 00:42:10,045
-Maryland authorities hope
to charge Muhammad
675
00:42:10,069 --> 00:42:11,880
and his 17-year-old accomplice
676
00:42:11,904 --> 00:42:15,968
with 6 counts
of first-degree murder tomorrow.
677
00:42:15,992 --> 00:42:18,387
-I turned on the TV.
678
00:42:18,411 --> 00:42:21,265
They showed his face.
679
00:42:21,289 --> 00:42:24,518
And I walked over to the TV,
put my hand on the screen,
680
00:42:24,542 --> 00:42:27,980
and said,
"What happened to you?"
681
00:42:28,004 --> 00:42:29,815
My son was crying on one bed.
682
00:42:29,839 --> 00:42:31,900
My daughters
were crying on the other.
683
00:42:31,924 --> 00:42:35,279
I pulled them together
and Taalibah said,
684
00:42:35,303 --> 00:42:38,407
"Mommy, what did Daddy do?
What did Daddy do?"
685
00:42:38,431 --> 00:42:41,577
I said, "Honey, they said
he killed some people."
686
00:42:41,601 --> 00:42:43,829
And they just cried themselves
to sleep.
688
00:42:47,356 --> 00:42:50,043
-One of the most intense
and complicated manhunts
689
00:42:50,067 --> 00:42:52,755
in American history
is coming to an end.
693
00:43:10,963 --> 00:43:13,984
-Virginia Prosecutors could
pursue capital-murder charges
694
00:43:14,008 --> 00:43:16,570
against the 17-year-old suspect,
Malvo,
695
00:43:16,594 --> 00:43:18,679
if he is tried as an adult.
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