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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:07,966 --> 00:00:10,612 -The Capitol area sniper has killed nine people, 2 00:00:10,636 --> 00:00:14,240 and a law enforcement army is after the shooter, or shooters. 4 00:00:22,564 --> 00:00:24,858 -They have a very strong lead in this case 5 00:00:30,489 --> 00:00:33,009 -The victim was shot as he stood on the top step 6 00:00:33,033 --> 00:00:36,054 of a ride-on bus at Grand Pre Road and Georgia Avenue. 7 00:00:36,078 --> 00:00:37,663 No word on his condition. 8 00:00:46,255 --> 00:00:47,815 -He dropped a piece of evidence. 9 00:00:47,839 --> 00:00:49,484 That turned out to be the owners' manual 10 00:00:49,508 --> 00:00:51,986 for the Bushmaster rifle. 11 00:00:52,010 --> 00:00:55,573 It had 36 fingerprints of identifiable quality 12 00:00:55,597 --> 00:00:57,200 in that magazine. 13 00:00:57,224 --> 00:00:58,826 -Authorities said the possibility 14 00:00:58,850 --> 00:01:00,662 that a sniper and driver 15 00:01:00,686 --> 00:01:03,289 are working together is gaining credence. 16 00:01:03,313 --> 00:01:08,002 -Then I was like, "Okay, that's the kid, and that's John." 20 00:01:57,576 --> 00:01:59,304 -Well, it started with Lee Malvo 21 00:01:59,328 --> 00:02:02,890 enrolling in the high school here, 22 00:02:02,914 --> 00:02:05,476 and there was questions whether Lee Malvo had entered 23 00:02:05,500 --> 00:02:07,812 the country legally. 24 00:02:07,836 --> 00:02:09,314 The school had a pretty hard time 25 00:02:09,338 --> 00:02:12,942 trying to get any information out of him. 26 00:02:12,966 --> 00:02:14,736 We have John Muhammad, 27 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,280 a gentleman that's referred to as his father, 28 00:02:17,304 --> 00:02:20,867 as his guardian, a friend. 29 00:02:20,891 --> 00:02:24,287 Uh, we don't know what he's doing. 30 00:02:24,311 --> 00:02:26,873 It just didn't add up. 31 00:02:26,897 --> 00:02:29,709 So we reached out to his mother. 33 00:02:49,419 --> 00:02:53,274 {\an8}-I got a call from Al Jensen, asking for help. 34 00:02:53,298 --> 00:02:56,110 He suggested that they were frequently known to hang out 35 00:02:56,134 --> 00:02:58,863 at the YMCA in downtown Bellingham. 36 00:02:58,887 --> 00:03:04,744 37 00:03:04,768 --> 00:03:07,080 The manager confirmed that they're in the building 38 00:03:07,104 --> 00:03:09,374 but where, I don't know. 39 00:03:09,398 --> 00:03:13,944 When I heard voices and... Coming from the locker room. 40 00:03:17,781 --> 00:03:22,929 I walked in and was immediately surprised by Lee Malvo 41 00:03:22,953 --> 00:03:24,680 and John Muhammad 42 00:03:24,704 --> 00:03:28,542 coming out of the shower area of the locker room naked. 43 00:03:30,752 --> 00:03:33,356 The hair on my neck went up because I thought, 44 00:03:33,380 --> 00:03:36,567 "This is not normal to see a father figure 45 00:03:36,591 --> 00:03:42,156 and his son coming out of a group shower together like this. 46 00:03:42,180 --> 00:03:45,660 What have I stumbled into here?" 47 00:03:45,684 --> 00:03:49,122 I showed him my badge and I.D. and asked, "Are you Lee Malvo?" 48 00:03:49,146 --> 00:03:51,749 And he said, "Yes sir." 49 00:03:51,773 --> 00:03:54,836 And I asked Lee Malvo, "Is he with you?" 50 00:03:54,860 --> 00:03:56,337 And, to me, it's an obvious question. 51 00:03:56,361 --> 00:03:57,922 You just came out of the gym naked with him. 52 00:03:57,946 --> 00:04:01,843 Obviously, you're together, and Lee said, "Yes." 53 00:04:01,867 --> 00:04:04,595 I asked John Muhammad, "Are you with him?" 54 00:04:04,619 --> 00:04:06,139 And he wouldn't answer me. 55 00:04:06,163 --> 00:04:09,517 56 00:04:09,541 --> 00:04:11,144 I said, "I'm talking to you. 57 00:04:11,168 --> 00:04:13,062 He said he's with you. Are you with him?" 58 00:04:13,086 --> 00:04:14,605 "No." 59 00:04:14,629 --> 00:04:19,193 "Okay, do you want to go with him to the station?" 60 00:04:19,217 --> 00:04:20,820 "No." 61 00:04:20,844 --> 00:04:24,389 62 00:04:46,495 --> 00:04:52,226 63 00:04:52,250 --> 00:04:55,146 I drove Lee Malvo back to the Bellingham station 64 00:04:55,170 --> 00:04:59,567 to process him for deportation as a stowaway. 65 00:04:59,591 --> 00:05:02,862 We took photographs and fingerprints, 66 00:05:02,886 --> 00:05:05,781 which are not normally required for juveniles. 67 00:05:05,805 --> 00:05:11,078 68 00:05:11,102 --> 00:05:13,080 And that was the last I ever saw of him. 69 00:05:13,104 --> 00:05:20,296 70 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:27,512 71 00:05:27,536 --> 00:05:31,390 - Hello. This is a call from... - Lee Malvo 72 00:05:31,414 --> 00:05:33,809 -An inmate at the Virginia Department of Corrections, 73 00:05:33,833 --> 00:05:36,896 Red Onion State Prison. 74 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,815 -41-year-old man, John Muhammad, 75 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:41,734 and a Jamaican-born teenager. 76 00:05:41,758 --> 00:05:43,611 -"Sniper team that terrorized 77 00:05:43,635 --> 00:05:45,404 the Washington metropolitan area." 78 00:05:45,428 --> 00:05:48,366 -19-11 I have one down. There's blood all over. 79 00:05:48,390 --> 00:05:49,825 -For three weeks, 80 00:05:49,849 --> 00:05:52,703 the most intense manhunts in American history. 81 00:05:52,727 --> 00:05:55,414 -The serial killer hunting down random citizens. 82 00:05:55,438 --> 00:05:58,292 -We have fear levels here that I think are higher 83 00:05:58,316 --> 00:05:59,877 than they were after September 11th. 85 00:06:01,611 --> 00:06:04,090 -President Bush is talking about fighting Iraq, 86 00:06:04,114 --> 00:06:07,635 and we have a war zone right here in his own country. 87 00:06:07,659 --> 00:06:10,763 -Ohh! Oh! 88 00:06:10,787 --> 00:06:13,224 Oh, man! Oh, man! 89 00:06:13,248 --> 00:06:21,248 90 00:06:24,175 --> 00:06:32,175 91 00:06:35,061 --> 00:06:36,706 -This was found at the shooting 92 00:06:36,730 --> 00:06:39,750 of the Montgomery County bus driver, Conrad Johnson. 93 00:06:39,774 --> 00:06:42,485 It's an additional note left from the shooters. 94 00:06:44,529 --> 00:06:48,467 Looks a lot like the note found at the Ponderosa. 95 00:06:48,491 --> 00:06:52,054 The same stars, same handwriting. 96 00:06:52,078 --> 00:06:55,266 "For you Mr Police. Call me God. 97 00:06:55,290 --> 00:06:58,811 Your incompetence has cost you another life. 98 00:06:58,835 --> 00:07:00,688 Do not play these childish games with us. 99 00:07:00,712 --> 00:07:02,690 You know our demands. 100 00:07:02,714 --> 00:07:05,359 Next person, your choice. 101 00:07:05,383 --> 00:07:07,945 P.S. Your children are not safe." 102 00:07:07,969 --> 00:07:11,532 103 00:07:11,556 --> 00:07:14,744 -CNN did not report yesterday, at the request 104 00:07:14,768 --> 00:07:17,705 of law enforcement officials, that within that letter, 105 00:07:17,729 --> 00:07:22,001 there were also unspecified threats made against children 106 00:07:22,025 --> 00:07:26,213 if certain demands were not met. 107 00:07:26,237 --> 00:07:28,716 -The media wanted to know what was said, 108 00:07:28,740 --> 00:07:32,637 the public wanted to know what was said, 109 00:07:32,661 --> 00:07:34,430 and I went to the chief and I said 110 00:07:34,454 --> 00:07:38,684 that this is sort of getting a life of its own. 111 00:07:38,708 --> 00:07:40,478 "They think we're jeopardizing the children. 112 00:07:40,502 --> 00:07:43,814 They don't trust us. This... We have to say something." 114 00:07:45,298 --> 00:07:47,193 -Here comes Chief Charles Moose, 115 00:07:47,217 --> 00:07:50,053 the man of the hour, if you will, taking the podium. 116 00:07:54,099 --> 00:07:56,535 -We recognize the concerns of the community, 117 00:07:56,559 --> 00:08:00,539 and therefore are going to provide the exact language 118 00:08:00,563 --> 00:08:04,794 in the message that pertains to the threat. 119 00:08:04,818 --> 00:08:07,421 It is in the form of a postscript. 120 00:08:07,445 --> 00:08:10,383 121 00:08:10,407 --> 00:08:15,221 "Your children are not safe anywhere at any time." 122 00:08:15,245 --> 00:08:18,307 123 00:08:18,331 --> 00:08:20,643 -It was a very helpless feeling and a frustrating feeling... 124 00:08:20,667 --> 00:08:23,437 Own up to the fact that we can't protect you, 125 00:08:23,461 --> 00:08:25,356 we can't stop this, 126 00:08:25,380 --> 00:08:27,525 we haven't been able to stop this, 127 00:08:27,549 --> 00:08:29,777 and the shooter is basically gloating. 128 00:08:29,801 --> 00:08:31,362 And it hurt to say it. 129 00:08:31,386 --> 00:08:35,116 130 00:08:35,140 --> 00:08:37,702 -A chilling message released by Maryland police 131 00:08:37,726 --> 00:08:40,454 just moments ago, believed to have come from the sniper. 132 00:08:40,478 --> 00:08:43,374 -Children are not safe anytime, anywhere. 133 00:08:43,398 --> 00:08:45,793 -Fear tightened its grip on the region. 134 00:08:45,817 --> 00:08:49,130 A sniper considers their children targets. 135 00:08:49,154 --> 00:08:52,216 136 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,010 -I don't understand this being nice to the police. 137 00:08:55,034 --> 00:08:56,846 They're dismal failures. 138 00:08:56,870 --> 00:08:58,556 -The Chief said the other day, 139 00:08:58,580 --> 00:09:00,558 "You're not the one responsible for catching this guy. 140 00:09:00,582 --> 00:09:03,060 We are. And until that changes, let us do our job. 141 00:09:03,084 --> 00:09:04,895 -You're not doing the job. You haven't caught him. 142 00:09:04,919 --> 00:09:06,313 You don't even know what he looks like. 143 00:09:06,337 --> 00:09:08,607 We don't know if it's a man, a boy. 144 00:09:08,631 --> 00:09:09,942 145 00:09:09,966 --> 00:09:14,321 -Yeah, Pam, Zack, is your mom there? 146 00:09:14,345 --> 00:09:16,073 Hey, sweetie. 147 00:09:16,097 --> 00:09:17,992 At the end of the conference, they read a statement. 148 00:09:18,016 --> 00:09:20,703 The guy said, 149 00:09:20,727 --> 00:09:25,249 "P.S. Your children are not safe anywhere at any time." 150 00:09:25,273 --> 00:09:30,546 151 00:09:30,570 --> 00:09:32,923 Just keep them... Keep them in the backyard. 152 00:09:32,947 --> 00:09:35,009 Don't let them ride their bikes or anything. 153 00:09:35,033 --> 00:09:36,177 I mean, we'll send them to school, 154 00:09:36,201 --> 00:09:37,803 but I'll take them to school. 155 00:09:37,827 --> 00:09:43,142 156 00:09:43,166 --> 00:09:45,519 They waited until today to tell us that, 157 00:09:45,543 --> 00:09:47,855 and that happened Saturday. 158 00:09:47,879 --> 00:09:53,444 So, you know, that's the kind of stuff 159 00:09:53,468 --> 00:09:55,529 that really pisses you off as a parent. 160 00:09:55,553 --> 00:09:57,156 I want to know that stuff when it happens. 161 00:09:57,180 --> 00:09:59,575 I don't want to be told about it three days later. 162 00:09:59,599 --> 00:10:06,415 163 00:10:06,439 --> 00:10:09,502 -You drive all around the country and, um, 164 00:10:09,526 --> 00:10:12,171 everybody's got their little police car painted, 165 00:10:12,195 --> 00:10:18,636 and, you know, and it's "to serve and protect." 166 00:10:18,660 --> 00:10:21,263 Well, you know, we didn't... 167 00:10:21,287 --> 00:10:24,183 We didn't fulfill the bargain of protect. 172 00:10:58,199 --> 00:11:03,097 -We were trying our best, but it just always will be in my mind, 173 00:11:03,121 --> 00:11:09,144 a real failure, um, that we couldn't protect them. 174 00:11:09,168 --> 00:11:11,522 -Investigators are scouring for any evidence, 175 00:11:11,546 --> 00:11:12,898 like a bullet casing, 176 00:11:12,922 --> 00:11:15,008 that a sniper might have left behind. 177 00:11:17,176 --> 00:11:18,529 -We were really sucking it up 178 00:11:18,553 --> 00:11:20,447 and thinking about, "Damn it. 179 00:11:20,471 --> 00:11:24,159 You know, what are we missing? What can we do? 180 00:11:24,183 --> 00:11:27,079 Where are we dropping the ball here? 181 00:11:27,103 --> 00:11:28,664 Something's got to give." 182 00:11:28,688 --> 00:11:32,835 183 00:11:32,859 --> 00:11:34,461 -It's amazing to me 184 00:11:34,485 --> 00:11:36,755 that somebody could actually shoot 13 people 185 00:11:36,779 --> 00:11:40,759 without leaving any evidence behind, other than these notes. 186 00:11:40,783 --> 00:11:46,599 187 00:11:46,623 --> 00:11:49,393 -That fingerprint from the magazine that was found 188 00:11:49,417 --> 00:11:52,813 at a shooting in Montgomery, Alabama, 189 00:11:52,837 --> 00:11:58,360 it was just another little piece of a puzzle sitting out there. 190 00:11:58,384 --> 00:11:59,945 Our task force decided, 191 00:11:59,969 --> 00:12:04,325 lets run that fingerprint against the database, 192 00:12:04,349 --> 00:12:06,744 which includes immigration records. 196 00:12:16,694 --> 00:12:18,589 And there was a match. 200 00:12:27,705 --> 00:12:30,142 -I got the phone call from the command post 201 00:12:30,166 --> 00:12:32,519 telling me that the fingerprint had returned 202 00:12:32,543 --> 00:12:35,814 to an immigrant from Jamaica, 203 00:12:35,838 --> 00:12:37,483 a Lee Boyd Malvo. 204 00:12:37,507 --> 00:12:42,029 205 00:12:42,053 --> 00:12:45,824 -Who is Lee Boyd Malvo? Who may he be associated with? 206 00:12:45,848 --> 00:12:47,785 Where does he live? 207 00:12:47,809 --> 00:12:50,371 And that's when we started to piece things together. 208 00:12:50,395 --> 00:12:57,795 209 00:12:57,819 --> 00:13:05,219 210 00:13:05,243 --> 00:13:06,720 -They had discovered the arrest 211 00:13:06,744 --> 00:13:09,038 that I had made about a year ago. 212 00:13:11,541 --> 00:13:14,395 These are a copy of Lee Malvo's fingerprints 213 00:13:14,419 --> 00:13:18,607 that I took when I processed him for deportation. 214 00:13:18,631 --> 00:13:21,860 They were submitted to the FBI. 215 00:13:21,884 --> 00:13:27,324 -I had that file within a-a very short period of time. 216 00:13:27,348 --> 00:13:28,867 There was a photograph included 217 00:13:28,891 --> 00:13:32,246 with his immigration information. 218 00:13:32,270 --> 00:13:35,249 And then I saw references within that record 219 00:13:35,273 --> 00:13:38,836 to John Allen Muhammad or John Allen Williams. 220 00:13:38,860 --> 00:13:41,005 221 00:13:41,029 --> 00:13:42,381 And in one of those reports, 222 00:13:42,405 --> 00:13:46,593 Lee Malvo was referenced as Muhammad's son. 223 00:13:46,617 --> 00:13:49,430 You kind of get a feel for when you've got good information 224 00:13:49,454 --> 00:13:50,764 in these types of cases, 225 00:13:50,788 --> 00:13:52,516 and this was one of those moments 226 00:13:52,540 --> 00:13:54,184 where we have something here. 227 00:13:54,208 --> 00:13:58,022 We've got to really dig into this. 228 00:13:58,046 --> 00:13:59,523 I start gathering information 229 00:13:59,547 --> 00:14:02,818 on John Allen Muhammad, John Allen Williams, 230 00:14:02,842 --> 00:14:04,653 all of his military records. 231 00:14:04,677 --> 00:14:08,282 232 00:14:08,306 --> 00:14:12,411 I now see John Allen Muhammad's ex-wife. 233 00:14:12,435 --> 00:14:16,582 Now I saw reports related to Mildred Muhammad 234 00:14:16,606 --> 00:14:21,420 and a kidnapping, at one time, regarding his own children. 235 00:14:21,444 --> 00:14:23,881 She was a critical piece to me 236 00:14:23,905 --> 00:14:26,675 that brings John Muhammad into the Maryland area. 237 00:14:26,699 --> 00:14:30,637 238 00:14:30,661 --> 00:14:33,682 And my theory at that time is that Lee Malvo, 239 00:14:33,706 --> 00:14:37,519 who in their world is his son, they are together. 244 00:15:07,532 --> 00:15:10,135 -The D.C. sniper task force were trying to dig up 245 00:15:10,159 --> 00:15:14,640 as much information they could about a John Muhammad. 247 00:15:17,458 --> 00:15:19,978 I heard the name, and I said, 248 00:15:20,002 --> 00:15:22,439 "Hey, I had just received a call the other day 249 00:15:22,463 --> 00:15:28,112 regarding that, on the tip line from Robert Holmes." 250 00:15:28,136 --> 00:15:31,365 It became very urgent that we contact him, 251 00:15:31,389 --> 00:15:33,534 so I called Mr. Holmes into the office, 252 00:15:33,558 --> 00:15:37,788 and from that point on, things went 100 miles an hour. 254 00:15:43,734 --> 00:15:47,297 -I just told them I think I know who the D.C. sniper is. 256 00:15:50,741 --> 00:15:54,346 I said he was a buddy of mine in the army, 257 00:15:54,370 --> 00:15:57,558 John Allen Muhammad, 258 00:15:57,582 --> 00:16:02,187 and he may be travelling with, uh, Lee Boyd Malvo. 259 00:16:02,211 --> 00:16:06,567 -He advised us that both Lee Malvo and John Muhammad 260 00:16:06,591 --> 00:16:08,610 were at his residence three times 261 00:16:08,634 --> 00:16:10,445 within the last six months. 263 00:16:14,056 --> 00:16:18,996 They had an assault rifle with a sniper, uh, scope on it. 265 00:16:24,567 --> 00:16:27,004 -And that's when I asked them, 266 00:16:27,028 --> 00:16:30,674 if they got a bullet from the AR-15, 267 00:16:30,698 --> 00:16:33,552 could you match it to the bullets in the killings? 269 00:16:35,578 --> 00:16:37,222 And he said, "Yeah," and I said, 270 00:16:37,246 --> 00:16:39,725 "Well, he fired into the tree stump in my backyard." 272 00:16:44,503 --> 00:16:49,484 I believe he was about right here, in relation to the... 273 00:16:49,508 --> 00:16:51,195 To the trunk that's right there. 275 00:17:00,937 --> 00:17:04,416 -We decided, "Okay, we need to get that tree stump." 277 00:17:14,951 --> 00:17:18,138 -I was still working on pictures of John Allen Williams 278 00:17:18,162 --> 00:17:21,433 or John Allen Muhammad. 279 00:17:21,457 --> 00:17:23,894 I had found a California driver's license, 280 00:17:23,918 --> 00:17:26,563 and I got a hold of a friend of mine out in San Diego, 281 00:17:26,587 --> 00:17:28,756 and I said, "I need a picture of this guy." 282 00:17:30,758 --> 00:17:33,862 He called me at 1:30, 2:00 in the morning, and he said, 283 00:17:33,886 --> 00:17:36,490 "Hey, I've got your picture, when do you need this?" 284 00:17:36,514 --> 00:17:37,658 I said, "I need it right now." 285 00:17:37,682 --> 00:17:39,034 He said, "Well, what's the hurry?" 286 00:17:39,058 --> 00:17:40,744 I said, "Well, take a good look at it, 287 00:17:40,768 --> 00:17:42,913 because I believe you're looking at one of the snipers 288 00:17:42,937 --> 00:17:45,749 involved in the shootings here in the Washington area." 289 00:17:45,773 --> 00:17:53,773 290 00:17:55,533 --> 00:17:58,845 I began to call around to the different command posts. 291 00:17:58,869 --> 00:18:01,223 "Has any police officer around the country 292 00:18:01,247 --> 00:18:05,352 made an inquiry on John Allen Muhammad?" 293 00:18:05,376 --> 00:18:08,188 I started getting information coming in, 294 00:18:08,212 --> 00:18:12,317 and one piece caught my attention. 295 00:18:12,341 --> 00:18:15,195 The Baltimore Police department had made an inquiry 296 00:18:15,219 --> 00:18:17,489 into John Muhammad on October 8th. 297 00:18:17,513 --> 00:18:22,869 298 00:18:22,893 --> 00:18:28,041 Officer Jim Snyder detained him in a parking lot, 299 00:18:28,065 --> 00:18:31,336 {\an1}but he had no reason to further his investigation at that point. 300 00:18:31,360 --> 00:18:33,338 301 00:18:33,362 --> 00:18:35,173 He confirmed that driver's license 302 00:18:35,197 --> 00:18:38,218 is the one that I'm looking at in all my paperwork, 303 00:18:38,242 --> 00:18:39,970 so now I know it's him. 304 00:18:39,994 --> 00:18:42,347 305 00:18:42,371 --> 00:18:47,269 Officer Snyder was able to write down the vehicle. 306 00:18:47,293 --> 00:18:49,104 307 00:18:49,128 --> 00:18:53,317 It was a 1990 Chevy Caprice with a New Jersey tag. 308 00:18:53,341 --> 00:18:54,735 309 00:18:54,759 --> 00:18:56,570 NDA 21Z. 310 00:18:56,594 --> 00:19:03,744 311 00:19:03,768 --> 00:19:07,372 {\an1}The FBI were able to search this particular license plate... 312 00:19:07,396 --> 00:19:10,334 313 00:19:10,358 --> 00:19:13,253 ...and came up with more than a dozen inquiries 314 00:19:13,277 --> 00:19:15,922 from law enforcement, all the way from Richmond, 315 00:19:15,946 --> 00:19:20,969 up into Maryland, over a month's period of time. 316 00:19:20,993 --> 00:19:22,220 Huge piece of information 317 00:19:22,244 --> 00:19:23,764 because now it puts them in the area 318 00:19:23,788 --> 00:19:25,432 during the time of the shootings. 319 00:19:25,456 --> 00:19:33,315 320 00:19:33,339 --> 00:19:36,193 I was convinced. 321 00:19:36,217 --> 00:19:37,652 These are the guys. 322 00:19:37,676 --> 00:19:45,676 323 00:19:46,519 --> 00:19:49,206 -There was a knock on my door. 324 00:19:49,230 --> 00:19:51,625 "Is Mildred Muhammad here?" 325 00:19:51,649 --> 00:19:53,335 "Who are you?" They said, "We're with the FBI." 326 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:57,798 I said "Okay that's me." 327 00:19:57,822 --> 00:20:00,425 There was an agent walking back and forth 328 00:20:00,449 --> 00:20:01,760 in the room on the phone. 329 00:20:01,784 --> 00:20:04,304 He stops, and he says, 330 00:20:04,328 --> 00:20:06,848 "Look, Miss Muhammad, we're just gonna have to tell you. 331 00:20:06,872 --> 00:20:10,852 We're gonna name your ex-husband as the sniper." 332 00:20:10,876 --> 00:20:15,357 333 00:20:15,381 --> 00:20:18,026 I said, "What? John?" 334 00:20:18,050 --> 00:20:19,694 My head hit the table. 335 00:20:19,718 --> 00:20:21,154 They said, "Yes, Miss Muhammad. 336 00:20:21,178 --> 00:20:22,489 Do you think he would do something like this?" 337 00:20:22,513 --> 00:20:26,451 I raised my head. I said, "What? 338 00:20:26,475 --> 00:20:27,661 Yeah." 339 00:20:27,685 --> 00:20:32,874 340 00:20:32,898 --> 00:20:36,503 I been trying to tell you that this man is gonna kill me, 341 00:20:36,527 --> 00:20:39,506 and y'all not listening. 342 00:20:39,530 --> 00:20:43,301 They said, "Would you like to go into protective custody?" 343 00:20:43,325 --> 00:20:44,970 I said, "Have you caught him yet?" 344 00:20:44,994 --> 00:20:46,346 "No ma'am." 345 00:20:46,370 --> 00:20:48,223 "Do you know where he is?" "No ma'am." 346 00:20:48,247 --> 00:20:50,225 "And you still have to ask me, 347 00:20:50,249 --> 00:20:52,561 do I want to go into protective custody?" 348 00:20:52,585 --> 00:20:54,104 "Yes, ma'am, we do." 349 00:20:54,128 --> 00:20:57,357 "Yes, sir, I want to go into protective custody." 350 00:20:57,381 --> 00:21:02,863 351 00:21:02,887 --> 00:21:04,489 -Can everybody please stand down? 352 00:21:04,513 --> 00:21:06,950 The press conference is gonna be delayed. 353 00:21:06,974 --> 00:21:09,202 - How long? - Indefinitely at this time. 354 00:21:09,226 --> 00:21:11,705 We're gonna come out in just a few minutes. 355 00:21:11,729 --> 00:21:15,417 Captain Demme will come out and explain or talk through. 356 00:21:15,441 --> 00:21:18,545 -The day was moving fast and furiously. 358 00:21:21,363 --> 00:21:22,924 We're pretty sure that 359 00:21:22,948 --> 00:21:25,302 these are the two individuals that are involved, 360 00:21:25,326 --> 00:21:27,846 but without warrants, we can't put it out. 361 00:21:27,870 --> 00:21:29,931 I appreciate you gathering. 362 00:21:29,955 --> 00:21:32,726 Unfortunately, there have been developments in the case 363 00:21:32,750 --> 00:21:36,062 that we need to really focus on right now, 364 00:21:36,086 --> 00:21:39,357 and we are not going to be holding a press conference. 365 00:21:39,381 --> 00:21:41,693 - She's nervous. - It's kind of mysterious. 366 00:21:41,717 --> 00:21:44,321 But maybe it means some progress -Who knows? 367 00:21:44,345 --> 00:21:45,697 He could've called. He could've not called. 368 00:21:45,721 --> 00:21:47,449 Have they got a tip? 369 00:21:47,473 --> 00:21:48,950 -I would bet my paycheck that, uh, they're gonna come out 370 00:21:48,974 --> 00:21:50,076 with something tonight. 371 00:21:50,100 --> 00:21:52,120 They have to. 372 00:21:52,144 --> 00:21:56,082 -It is so close and the task force has got names 373 00:21:56,106 --> 00:22:01,546 and they're keeping it close... Enough time to build a case. 374 00:22:01,570 --> 00:22:04,049 I was praying nobody leaks it. 375 00:22:04,073 --> 00:22:05,175 Don't even tell me. 376 00:22:05,199 --> 00:22:07,117 Don't tell anybody. I wouldn't. 377 00:22:08,953 --> 00:22:16,953 378 00:22:19,630 --> 00:22:22,275 -We got out here where Mr. Holmes was living, 379 00:22:22,299 --> 00:22:26,780 in an effort to recover ballistic evidence. 380 00:22:26,804 --> 00:22:29,324 Tried to keep it a very low-key search. 381 00:22:29,348 --> 00:22:31,159 Uh, that was the goal. 382 00:22:31,183 --> 00:22:35,121 We did not want to tip off, uh, Mr. Muhammad and Lee Malvo. 383 00:22:35,145 --> 00:22:38,625 -"Get a couple of people, put on flannel shirts. 384 00:22:38,649 --> 00:22:42,837 No one needs... can find out about what you're doing." 385 00:22:42,861 --> 00:22:45,590 -This is the scene unfolding tonight in Tacoma, Washington. 386 00:22:45,614 --> 00:22:46,967 Investigators have been picking their way 387 00:22:46,991 --> 00:22:49,302 through the backyard of a home. 388 00:22:49,326 --> 00:22:51,388 -We had news helicopters flying over. 389 00:22:51,412 --> 00:22:54,558 The news media was down the block from Mr. Holmes' residence 390 00:22:54,582 --> 00:22:56,268 and, very quickly, this information 391 00:22:56,292 --> 00:22:57,936 was on national news. 392 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:02,816 -FBI agents, ATF agents had swarmed into this home. 393 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,569 -We're in the office talking, and someone says 394 00:23:05,593 --> 00:23:10,031 "Hey, take a look at MSNBC." 395 00:23:10,055 --> 00:23:11,366 -Investigators have been picking their way 396 00:23:11,390 --> 00:23:13,076 through the backyard of a home. 397 00:23:13,100 --> 00:23:14,911 We're told they're looking for bullet fragments to see 398 00:23:14,935 --> 00:23:18,206 {\an1}if they match fragments found in the D.C.-area sniper shootings. 399 00:23:18,230 --> 00:23:20,166 -Perhaps lodged in the tree stump, 400 00:23:20,190 --> 00:23:23,837 carefully cut and removed from the property. 401 00:23:23,861 --> 00:23:28,842 -If he's seeing this, he knows that his time is up. 402 00:23:28,866 --> 00:23:31,845 I start crying riding down the road that night 403 00:23:31,869 --> 00:23:35,974 because, I said, when they catch him they're gonna kill him. 404 00:23:35,998 --> 00:23:42,063 405 00:23:42,087 --> 00:23:44,107 -We didn't have the one critical piece of information 406 00:23:44,131 --> 00:23:47,402 we still needed at that point. 407 00:23:47,426 --> 00:23:49,029 And that's where they were. 408 00:23:49,053 --> 00:23:57,053 409 00:23:57,269 --> 00:23:59,706 -We had a big discussion about, 410 00:23:59,730 --> 00:24:02,542 do we look for the car and the plate, 411 00:24:02,566 --> 00:24:06,671 or do we use the media and put the plate out 412 00:24:06,695 --> 00:24:11,575 and have all the people in the world look for the car? 413 00:24:13,786 --> 00:24:18,266 The risk is that, if they're sitting there watching TV, 414 00:24:18,290 --> 00:24:21,978 then they know to get rid of the car. 415 00:24:22,002 --> 00:24:25,148 And I have to admit I was probably somewhat apprehensive 416 00:24:25,172 --> 00:24:26,757 about that. 417 00:24:28,759 --> 00:24:32,781 -And, basically, we just said, "It's gonna get leaked, 418 00:24:32,805 --> 00:24:38,161 so the decision will be made for us shortly." 419 00:24:38,185 --> 00:24:40,705 -I... what I did next was probably something 420 00:24:40,729 --> 00:24:44,209 that, uh, the leadership up in Montgomery 421 00:24:44,233 --> 00:24:48,380 probably did not want me to do. 422 00:24:48,404 --> 00:24:51,383 I had a "Be On the Lookout" national teletype 423 00:24:51,407 --> 00:24:55,261 sent across the country. 424 00:24:55,285 --> 00:25:01,101 I also knew that the media monitored those broadcasts, 425 00:25:01,125 --> 00:25:02,793 and that they would pick up on that. 426 00:25:05,713 --> 00:25:08,358 427 00:25:08,382 --> 00:25:09,651 -Are you hearing about a New Jersey vehicle? 428 00:25:09,675 --> 00:25:11,361 - Yeah. - License tags... 429 00:25:11,385 --> 00:25:12,904 -1990 caprice. 430 00:25:12,928 --> 00:25:15,323 -We've just learned that police in the D.C. area 431 00:25:15,347 --> 00:25:19,619 have issued a lookout for a 1990 Chevy Caprice 432 00:25:19,643 --> 00:25:21,329 -We also have a license-plate number... 433 00:25:21,353 --> 00:25:24,249 NDA-21Z. 434 00:25:24,273 --> 00:25:27,085 -The media puts it out... The car and the tag information. 435 00:25:27,109 --> 00:25:29,003 I didn't have it yet, to put out. 436 00:25:29,027 --> 00:25:30,505 Neither did the other P.I.s, but I was like 437 00:25:30,529 --> 00:25:32,215 "Okay, well if they've got it, 438 00:25:32,239 --> 00:25:34,384 and they've got it out there, good for them." 439 00:25:34,408 --> 00:25:36,344 I mean, there... there was nothing we could do now. 440 00:25:36,368 --> 00:25:37,804 This thing was moving in front of us. 441 00:25:37,828 --> 00:25:39,305 -There's a huge juggernaut 442 00:25:39,329 --> 00:25:41,474 gathering steam behind the scenes right now. 443 00:25:41,498 --> 00:25:44,811 As soon as someone spots this car, they're going to respond. 444 00:25:44,835 --> 00:25:48,255 446 00:25:57,556 --> 00:25:59,767 -Get that camera out of my face, okay? 447 00:26:07,816 --> 00:26:11,487 -We the jury find the defendant not guilty. 448 00:26:26,210 --> 00:26:28,104 -The Police Chief Charles Moose 449 00:26:28,128 --> 00:26:29,939 is coming to the microphone right now. 450 00:26:29,963 --> 00:26:31,465 The doors are opening. 451 00:26:45,854 --> 00:26:47,165 -A federal arrest warrant 452 00:26:47,189 --> 00:26:49,417 has been issued for John Allen Muhammad, 453 00:26:49,441 --> 00:26:52,545 also known as John Allen Williams. 454 00:26:52,569 --> 00:26:55,173 He should be considered armed and dangerous 455 00:26:55,197 --> 00:26:57,574 and he may be in the company of a juvenile. 456 00:26:59,868 --> 00:27:03,389 -The serial sniper investigation takes some dramatic twists. 457 00:27:03,413 --> 00:27:06,017 -Finally, police are putting a name out there. 458 00:27:06,041 --> 00:27:08,812 -Believed to be blue or burgundy in color. 459 00:27:08,836 --> 00:27:11,189 License number... NDA 21Z. 460 00:27:11,213 --> 00:27:13,107 -Breaking developments in this case, 461 00:27:13,131 --> 00:27:15,777 a man wanted for questioning by the name of John Allen Williams 462 00:27:15,801 --> 00:27:18,154 or a John Allen Muhammad. 463 00:27:18,178 --> 00:27:20,740 -Okay, I got the picture. 464 00:27:20,764 --> 00:27:22,325 -This thing has engaged. 465 00:27:22,349 --> 00:27:24,536 It's gonna be an enormous manhunt 466 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,955 by virtually everybody in the country at this point. 468 00:28:09,646 --> 00:28:11,624 -This guy is never going to give himself up 469 00:28:11,648 --> 00:28:14,168 because he is playing this to the end. 470 00:28:14,192 --> 00:28:16,737 He wants his fantasy to come true. 471 00:28:31,543 --> 00:28:38,508 472 00:28:40,344 --> 00:28:48,344 473 00:28:48,477 --> 00:28:56,477 474 00:28:56,610 --> 00:28:59,505 -I was working the Washington, D.C., area 475 00:28:59,529 --> 00:29:01,716 servicing several supermarkets. 476 00:29:01,740 --> 00:29:07,180 477 00:29:07,204 --> 00:29:09,599 It was probably about 11:00, 11:30. 478 00:29:09,623 --> 00:29:11,809 Was kind of tired, so, 479 00:29:11,833 --> 00:29:14,979 "Well, I'll just head on home." 480 00:29:15,003 --> 00:29:16,564 -With the latest on the investigation, 481 00:29:16,588 --> 00:29:18,858 lets go live to police headquarters in Rockville. 482 00:29:18,882 --> 00:29:21,361 -We've just learned that police in the D.C. area 483 00:29:21,385 --> 00:29:26,115 have issued a lookout for a 1990 Chevy Caprice. 484 00:29:26,139 --> 00:29:27,867 -We also have a license-plate number... 485 00:29:27,891 --> 00:29:30,745 NDA 21Z. 486 00:29:30,769 --> 00:29:34,624 487 00:29:34,648 --> 00:29:36,709 -That was the first time they had ever said anything else 488 00:29:36,733 --> 00:29:38,419 besides a white van. 489 00:29:38,443 --> 00:29:41,381 I scribbled down the tag number. 490 00:29:41,405 --> 00:29:45,051 New Jersey tag... NDA-21Z 491 00:29:45,075 --> 00:29:48,721 -So, is the white box truck out in your opinion? 492 00:29:48,745 --> 00:29:52,225 -The white box truck is out at this point. 493 00:29:52,249 --> 00:29:54,352 -Just when I was getting on the beltway, 494 00:29:54,376 --> 00:29:57,563 Chief Moose started to give his press conference. 495 00:29:57,587 --> 00:29:59,649 -A federal arrest warrant has been issued 496 00:29:59,673 --> 00:30:04,445 for John Allen Muhammad also known as John Allen Williams. 497 00:30:04,469 --> 00:30:07,073 He should be considered armed and dangerous. 498 00:30:07,097 --> 00:30:10,743 He may be in the company of a juvenile. 499 00:30:10,767 --> 00:30:13,371 -As I got up closer to Frederick, Maryland, there 500 00:30:13,395 --> 00:30:15,164 on Route 70, 501 00:30:15,188 --> 00:30:17,417 I was starting to feel the urge to use the restroom. 502 00:30:17,441 --> 00:30:18,751 Thought, "Well, I'll stop up 503 00:30:18,775 --> 00:30:20,837 at the rest area on South Mountain." 504 00:30:20,861 --> 00:30:25,258 505 00:30:25,282 --> 00:30:27,093 -It's a New Jersey plate. 506 00:30:27,117 --> 00:30:28,594 John Muhammad is believed to be... 507 00:30:28,618 --> 00:30:30,763 -As I pull up into the car lot, 508 00:30:30,787 --> 00:30:33,349 my headlights hit the front quarter panel 509 00:30:33,373 --> 00:30:35,059 of a dark blue Caprice. 510 00:30:35,083 --> 00:30:37,770 -The all-points bulletin is that they're armed 511 00:30:37,794 --> 00:30:39,897 and extremely dangerous, and they warn, of course, 512 00:30:39,921 --> 00:30:44,235 {\an1}even police to be on the lookout and be concerned about the fact 513 00:30:44,259 --> 00:30:47,030 that they could be armed and dangerous. 514 00:30:47,054 --> 00:30:48,990 -I read the tag off. 515 00:30:49,014 --> 00:30:53,578 516 00:30:53,602 --> 00:30:56,039 My heart started racing. 517 00:30:56,063 --> 00:30:58,666 I was like, "Oh, man, that's it." 518 00:30:58,690 --> 00:31:02,027 And I was really excited by then. 519 00:31:23,715 --> 00:31:25,902 I could hear them, but they couldn't hear me, 520 00:31:25,926 --> 00:31:28,112 and they hung up on me. 522 00:31:31,223 --> 00:31:35,411 So I knew I was gonna have to move to get cell service. 523 00:31:35,435 --> 00:31:41,667 524 00:31:41,691 --> 00:31:47,697 So I pulled on over into the truck area, and I called again. 525 00:32:07,926 --> 00:32:10,780 526 00:32:10,804 --> 00:32:14,200 -We had just moved into this facility, 527 00:32:14,224 --> 00:32:15,743 so we didn't have any TVs. 528 00:32:15,767 --> 00:32:17,411 We didn't have radios. 529 00:32:17,435 --> 00:32:20,248 We were unaware that there was a new lookout put out. 530 00:32:20,272 --> 00:32:23,876 531 00:32:23,900 --> 00:32:25,711 It was kind of a quiet night. 532 00:32:25,735 --> 00:32:29,173 533 00:32:29,197 --> 00:32:31,968 Out of the clear, blue sky, one of my operators says 534 00:32:31,992 --> 00:32:35,680 {\an1}"Hey, I have this guy reporting that he is with the blue Caprice 535 00:32:35,704 --> 00:32:40,518 that is being put out for the lookout on the radio," 536 00:32:40,542 --> 00:32:43,837 and my first thought is, "What are you talking about?" 537 00:32:47,340 --> 00:32:51,612 We had no idea that they were looking for a blue Caprice. 538 00:32:51,636 --> 00:32:54,240 I have to call down to the command center, 539 00:32:54,264 --> 00:32:55,992 and lo and behold, it's true. 540 00:32:56,016 --> 00:32:58,578 We need to get police officers up there right away. 541 00:32:58,602 --> 00:33:02,081 542 00:33:02,105 --> 00:33:05,001 -The duty officer says, "Frederick car 662, 543 00:33:05,025 --> 00:33:08,212 switch over to private channel." 544 00:33:08,236 --> 00:33:09,672 Something was up. 545 00:33:09,696 --> 00:33:14,427 546 00:33:14,451 --> 00:33:16,596 And he proceeds to tell me 547 00:33:16,620 --> 00:33:21,017 that they believe the sniper car was in the rest area. 548 00:33:21,041 --> 00:33:24,645 That was a brief moment there where I think my heart stopped. 549 00:33:24,669 --> 00:33:30,443 550 00:33:30,467 --> 00:33:33,613 Are the snipers in that car? 551 00:33:33,637 --> 00:33:35,990 If they were, the odds were very, very good 552 00:33:36,014 --> 00:33:39,184 that we were about to get into a life-and-death gun battle. 553 00:33:41,645 --> 00:33:45,875 554 00:33:45,899 --> 00:33:48,502 -I was fired up. This is what we've been waiting for. 555 00:33:48,526 --> 00:33:52,215 556 00:33:52,239 --> 00:33:57,845 -We got the call to be flown up by our State Police helicopter. 557 00:33:57,869 --> 00:34:01,015 The biggest concern was that we didn't want that vehicle 558 00:34:01,039 --> 00:34:03,935 leaving that rest stop. 559 00:34:03,959 --> 00:34:06,145 -I love helicopters, I'm not going to lie about it, 560 00:34:06,169 --> 00:34:09,398 and, yeah, I was like, "Yippee ki-yay. Here we go." 561 00:34:09,422 --> 00:34:17,422 562 00:34:18,890 --> 00:34:21,452 -When we land, we all loaded up... 563 00:34:21,476 --> 00:34:25,081 564 00:34:25,105 --> 00:34:27,583 And we parked at the bottom of the ramp. 565 00:34:27,607 --> 00:34:34,298 566 00:34:34,322 --> 00:34:41,013 567 00:34:41,037 --> 00:34:44,350 At that point, we moved right up into the wood line. 570 00:34:49,129 --> 00:34:51,274 We're looking at points of cover to go to 571 00:34:51,298 --> 00:34:54,610 if we start to get into a shootout. 572 00:34:54,634 --> 00:34:56,362 There's no room for error. 573 00:34:56,386 --> 00:35:04,386 574 00:35:08,523 --> 00:35:11,085 -State police told me, "From here on out, 575 00:35:11,109 --> 00:35:13,963 no matter what happens, you stay in your van. 576 00:35:13,987 --> 00:35:16,215 Stay in your van till we come and get you." 581 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,591 -I never thought that they would both be sleeping 582 00:35:58,615 --> 00:36:00,134 at the same time. 583 00:36:00,158 --> 00:36:03,763 Just never, never would've occurred to me. 587 00:37:06,850 --> 00:37:13,290 -Malvo had that dead-shark look on his face. 588 00:37:13,314 --> 00:37:17,944 He looked like if he had the chance, he'd kill us all. 589 00:37:22,699 --> 00:37:25,177 So I made a point to say 590 00:37:25,201 --> 00:37:30,832 "Trooper, if this man so much as flinches, snap his neck." 591 00:37:32,083 --> 00:37:37,815 592 00:37:37,839 --> 00:37:41,527 -The most important thing in the whole case was the gun. 593 00:37:41,551 --> 00:37:44,363 594 00:37:44,387 --> 00:37:47,408 I think everybody was thinking, "God, get that rifle." 595 00:37:47,432 --> 00:37:54,874 596 00:37:54,898 --> 00:38:02,381 597 00:38:02,405 --> 00:38:05,384 -We had pulled up the back seat, 598 00:38:05,408 --> 00:38:06,969 and there's a rifle. 599 00:38:06,993 --> 00:38:13,893 600 00:38:13,917 --> 00:38:18,564 Pointed in my direction but it was... there was a rifle. 601 00:38:18,588 --> 00:38:22,735 It was a great relief that these were in fact 602 00:38:22,759 --> 00:38:24,469 the people we were looking for. 603 00:38:28,223 --> 00:38:32,077 -Breaking news from WTOP. 604 00:38:32,101 --> 00:38:34,330 -Two people sought by police in connection 605 00:38:34,354 --> 00:38:36,081 with the sniper investigation 606 00:38:36,105 --> 00:38:38,250 are now under arrest this morning. 607 00:38:38,274 --> 00:38:40,252 We have very fast-developing details on this... 608 00:38:40,276 --> 00:38:43,339 -We expect more on this story when Chief Moose 609 00:38:43,363 --> 00:38:46,258 holds a news briefing in about an hour from now. 611 00:38:51,955 --> 00:38:54,767 -I'm glad we can laugh again. 612 00:38:54,791 --> 00:38:56,852 -We want the Moose! 613 00:38:56,876 --> 00:38:58,562 -Forward pattern. 614 00:38:58,586 --> 00:39:00,022 -It was a great relief to know 615 00:39:00,046 --> 00:39:01,732 that you were getting the chance to go out 616 00:39:01,756 --> 00:39:05,694 and say that it was over. 617 00:39:05,718 --> 00:39:07,404 They just needed to hear that. 618 00:39:07,428 --> 00:39:13,327 619 00:39:13,351 --> 00:39:16,997 I just thought, "Oh, my God, man. 620 00:39:17,021 --> 00:39:19,625 I'm just going to be the guy that didn't catch them." 621 00:39:19,649 --> 00:39:21,961 622 00:39:21,985 --> 00:39:24,338 Weeks, months, years, and then its gonna be, 623 00:39:24,362 --> 00:39:28,300 finally on the tombstone said, "He didn't catch them." 625 00:39:31,995 --> 00:39:33,681 -And I remember there was a bunch of little girls 626 00:39:33,705 --> 00:39:37,893 from one of the high schools who came in with balloons. 627 00:39:37,917 --> 00:39:40,271 Y-You felt like you didn't deserve that, 628 00:39:40,295 --> 00:39:41,438 but they're just saying, "Thank you 629 00:39:41,462 --> 00:39:42,982 for giving us back our lives." 630 00:39:43,006 --> 00:39:44,692 - Chief Moose rocks. - He's awesome. 631 00:39:44,716 --> 00:39:47,736 - Do you feel safe now? - Yes. 635 00:39:57,604 --> 00:40:00,749 -All of the men and women who have taken the oath 636 00:40:00,773 --> 00:40:03,836 and served in the law-enforcement community, 637 00:40:03,860 --> 00:40:09,675 we do it for those victims and their families, 638 00:40:09,699 --> 00:40:11,719 so we will never forget. 639 00:40:11,743 --> 00:40:13,846 We'll never know their pain. 640 00:40:13,870 --> 00:40:17,016 And we only wish we could've stopped this. 641 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,185 642 00:40:20,209 --> 00:40:24,648 -It was almost like a presentation at a funeral. 643 00:40:24,672 --> 00:40:29,612 It was respectful of the people who had died 644 00:40:29,636 --> 00:40:31,155 and the people who were, 645 00:40:31,179 --> 00:40:34,533 you know, now gonna have their lives back. 646 00:40:34,557 --> 00:40:36,201 -You know, I got myself ready. 647 00:40:36,225 --> 00:40:37,494 Thank you, Chief. 648 00:40:37,518 --> 00:40:39,830 Sorry to keep everyone waiting tonight. 649 00:40:39,854 --> 00:40:42,124 And I knew what I was gonna say and release, 650 00:40:42,148 --> 00:40:47,046 and it was important that I was gonna say every victim's name. 651 00:40:47,070 --> 00:40:52,176 October 3rd, Premkumar Walekar in Montgomery County. 652 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,304 Sarah Ramos, Montgomery County. 653 00:40:55,328 --> 00:40:59,516 Lori Ann Lewis-Rivera, Montgomery County. 654 00:40:59,540 --> 00:41:02,210 Pascal Charlot, Washington, D.C. 655 00:41:06,381 --> 00:41:09,360 A female was wounded in Spotsylvania County. 656 00:41:09,384 --> 00:41:12,071 A child was wounded in Prince George's County. 657 00:41:12,095 --> 00:41:15,240 Dean Harold Meyers, Prince William County, Virginia. 658 00:41:15,264 --> 00:41:18,410 Kenneth Bridges, Spotsylvania County, Virginia. 659 00:41:18,434 --> 00:41:21,413 Linda Franklin, Fairfax County, Virginia. 660 00:41:21,437 --> 00:41:24,333 A gentleman was wounded in Hanover County, Virginia. 661 00:41:24,357 --> 00:41:27,544 Conrad Johnson, Montgomery County, Maryland. 662 00:41:27,568 --> 00:41:30,506 663 00:41:30,530 --> 00:41:32,508 -It came across the news that they were caught. 664 00:41:32,532 --> 00:41:34,301 We were relieved. 666 00:41:38,621 --> 00:41:44,186 But then I'm like, "Two days." 667 00:41:44,210 --> 00:41:48,315 Oh, my gosh. You know, if only... 668 00:41:48,339 --> 00:41:54,279 If only they could've caught them two days earlier, 669 00:41:54,303 --> 00:41:56,407 my husband would still be alive, 670 00:41:56,431 --> 00:42:00,869 and we could still go on with our lives. 671 00:42:00,893 --> 00:42:03,956 -In that trailer is the automobile. 672 00:42:03,980 --> 00:42:05,582 There goes the vehicle now. You can see it. 673 00:42:05,606 --> 00:42:07,918 It just goes past us right there. 674 00:42:07,942 --> 00:42:10,045 -Maryland authorities hope to charge Muhammad 675 00:42:10,069 --> 00:42:11,880 and his 17-year-old accomplice 676 00:42:11,904 --> 00:42:15,968 with 6 counts of first-degree murder tomorrow. 677 00:42:15,992 --> 00:42:18,387 -I turned on the TV. 678 00:42:18,411 --> 00:42:21,265 They showed his face. 679 00:42:21,289 --> 00:42:24,518 And I walked over to the TV, put my hand on the screen, 680 00:42:24,542 --> 00:42:27,980 and said, "What happened to you?" 681 00:42:28,004 --> 00:42:29,815 My son was crying on one bed. 682 00:42:29,839 --> 00:42:31,900 My daughters were crying on the other. 683 00:42:31,924 --> 00:42:35,279 I pulled them together and Taalibah said, 684 00:42:35,303 --> 00:42:38,407 "Mommy, what did Daddy do? What did Daddy do?" 685 00:42:38,431 --> 00:42:41,577 I said, "Honey, they said he killed some people." 686 00:42:41,601 --> 00:42:43,829 And they just cried themselves to sleep. 688 00:42:47,356 --> 00:42:50,043 -One of the most intense and complicated manhunts 689 00:42:50,067 --> 00:42:52,755 in American history is coming to an end. 693 00:43:10,963 --> 00:43:13,984 -Virginia Prosecutors could pursue capital-murder charges 694 00:43:14,008 --> 00:43:16,570 against the 17-year-old suspect, Malvo, 695 00:43:16,594 --> 00:43:18,679 if he is tried as an adult. Original subs extracted and cleaned up by Peppe@2021 45527

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