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-They needed a cheap car.
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For some reason they were
interested in...
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In the Caprice,
an old-style car.
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So I hand them the keys, they
go and they look at the car.
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They're in and out of the car.
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He was laying in the back
looking around.
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You know the trunk's open,
the doors are open.
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I don't, it was kind of strange
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the way they were
feeling the car out.
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I kind of got the feeling
that he didn't want me
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to know any of his business.
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So we did all the paperwork,
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gave him the keys,
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hopped in the car, took off.
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- Hello, this is a call from...
- Lee Malvo.
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-...an inmate at the Virginia
Department of Corrections,
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Red Onion State Prison.
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-41-year-old man, John Muhammad,
and a Jamaican-born teenager
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-Sniper team that terrorized the
Washington metropolitan area.
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-19-11 I have one down,
there's blood all over.
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-I'm at the Mobil gas station.
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- the most intense manhunts
in American history.
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-The serial killer hunting down
random citizens.
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-We have fear levels here
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that I think are higher than
they were after September 11th.
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-Please let me go!
Let me go past!
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-President Bush is talking about
fighting Iraq,
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and we have a warzone right here
in his own country.
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-Ohh, oh man, oh man.
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-Muhammad decided to return
to the United States.
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So Lee travelled with Muhammad
and Muhammad's children.
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-Muhammad and his wife
had separated.
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She had primary custody,
but he had stolen the kids,
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and taken them to Antigua
for about 18 months.
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And so, when Lee travelled up
with Muhammad
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and Muhammad's children,
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the saga began
in the United States.
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-Not know where
your children are...
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There are just no words
that I can say to you
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to describe that type of pain.
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There were times when I felt
that John was going to wait
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until they went to sleep
and shoot them in the head.
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There were times
when I felt that,
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"How am I going to get
them back?
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I don't know where they are.
Nobody's helping me."
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-My sergeant came up and he said
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that this man applied
for welfare benefits.
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-John went to file
for food stamps and cash.
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-There was something not right
with this application.
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They determined to take
the children
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into protective custody.
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I call Mildred.
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-He said, "We got your
children,"
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I was like,
"What you talking about?"
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-I said I have your children,
and then on the other end...
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-I screamed.
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I was crying, I was yelling
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-"They found my babies,
they found my babies."
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I said, "They found my children,
they found my children."
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-And you can almost hear
that she's jumping up and down
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-"We need for you to come back
for an emergency custody
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hearing, Can you come back?"
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Yes, I can.
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-Mildred walked in,
she had the biggest smile.
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And she just asked me...
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"Will you go with me
to the courtroom?"
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I said, "Sure."
I didn't think anything twice.
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-The judge says...
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-They gave him a document
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he needed to sign
to release the children.
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He signed the document and
flipped it back to the court.
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Judge said, "Case dismissed."
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-He hit the gavel.
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Mildred and I,
we were just tearful.
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The attorney was happy.
We're walking outside...
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-I turn, and it's John.
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He's walking towards me,
I take off down the hallway.
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Shoes go everywhere.
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-And I looked up,
and John passes right by me,
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walking swiftly, right by me.
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I'm up against the wall, just...
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-John put his hand
on the courtroom door,
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looked at me and said,
"Gotcha."
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My attorney said, "Oh, hell no,
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we gotta leave
out of here tonight."
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-The children are gone
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because Mildred has permission
to take them out of the state.
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All of that John found out
in one day
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in ten minutes.
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That he was divorced,
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that his children were no longer
under his care, legally.
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Yeah.
It was a lot.
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-And, I said "John, you're not
going to do
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anything to Mildred are you?"
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And he said "No"...
he chuckled,
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"No, Holmes, I'm not going to
do anything to Mildred."
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-Didn't see John again.
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Didn't hear from him, nothing.
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You know, we were cautious
a few days,
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but we never...
We never saw him again.
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We were going about
our seemingly normal lives.
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My niece had a beautiful baby
girl and moved in with us.
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Beautiful woman.
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She wanted to learn
restaurant operation.
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She wanted to open up
a restaurant.
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And the baby, was just the...
Just the center of our joy.
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-I knew Keenya was gone.
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But I'm praying, I'm asking
Keenya to hold on,
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hang in there.
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She was gone.
She was gone.
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Keenya had been shot.
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Didn't know who,
didn't know why.
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Um, all I knew was that
she lied in that doorway
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from answering the door.
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When that, um, man put that
sheet over her body...
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my life was never the same.
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-Good evening.
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A long year has passed since
enemies attacked our country.
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We have seen the images
so many times,
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they are seared on our souls.
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The attack on our nation
was also an attack on the ideals
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that make us a nation.
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Our generation has now
heard history's call,
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and we will answer it.
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Now, and in the future,
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Americans will live
as free people, not in fear.
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We will not allow any terrorists
to threaten our country.
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May God Bless America.
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And the light shines
in the darkness,
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and the darkness
will not overcome it.
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-It was a beautiful
fall afternoon.
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And as I was sitting here
waiting for traffic to clear
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to pull out on the road, I heard
this just enormously loud,
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echoing sound.
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Realizing something's
going on over there,
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I drove back up the block
to the Shoppers Food Warehouse
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parking lot.
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-16-13.
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The victim was on the ground
on the far side
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by those other parking spaces.
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I could see he was bleeding.
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He wasn't breathing,
he did not have a pulse.
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He was already gone.
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-I remember the feel of it
at the time.
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A year after 9/11,
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things were different
than they had been before.
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Those things affect us.
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-And good morning, welcome
to "Today," I'm Matt Lauer.
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- And I'm Katie Couric.
- Thursday October 3, 2002.
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-Now for the morning's
top stories, let's go over
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to Ann at the news desk.
Ann, good morning.
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-Good morning, Katie and Matt.
Good morning, everybody.
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A number of developments
in the showdown over Iraq.
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Today the Chief UN weapons
inspector
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briefed the security council
to send weapons inspectors
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back to Iraq.
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-If the president determines
that he has to act unilaterally
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to protect American people,
he can.
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-Saddam must disarm.
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Period
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-It is now 7:14.
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- Alright, Ann.
- Thank you very much.
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Meanwhile Al Roker has more on
Hurricane Lilly
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this morning
from the Weather Center.
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-We do have a tornado watch
in effect
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for a good portion of Louisiana,
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and in fact, you can see
we have very strong winds
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coming on shore
with a lot of rain,
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heavy rain right now,
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right there just to
the south of Louisiana.
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What we're expecting
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is a storm surge too,
it's actually...
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-Many people wondered
whether there was something
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they should have done.
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Here were two people
who they accepted,
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who they had an idea
of who they were.
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In October, I arrived
in the YMCA in the morning...
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and noticed a late model car
where two men were sleeping,
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one at the wheel
and the other in the back seat
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with his feet propped up
over the passenger seat.
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That hit me the wrong way.
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In 20 years, I'd never seen
anyone sleeping at the YMCA.
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But I said to myself,
"Just chill out."
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What I learned was, they'd been
readily accepted at the YMCA,
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I simply hadn't noticed them.
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Both of them were using
the weight room.
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Both of them quickly developed
trusting friendships.
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Some people knew them
as John and Lee.
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Some people didn't know
their names.
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But the older guy
knew everyone's name.
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If he met someone,
he learned their name.
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But is this person the person
I think he is?
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And the answer was "No."
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-This is WAMU Washington,
88.5FM.
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From American University,
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your NPR news station
in the nation's capital.
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-From the WTOP 24-hour
weather center
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clouds around tonight,
but probably little rain,
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a slight chance
of a shower or two.
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-On that first day, Thursday,
went into work, early update,
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there's really no change
from last night's incident.
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The gentleman shot on his way
to the grocery store,
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there wasn't a lot to go on.
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-Because we had a lot of people
that heard these gunshots,
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but nobody saw anything.
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We didn't have that many
homicides in Montgomery County.
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We might have an average
of 20 year... 20 a year, 25.
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We would respond to suicides,
people falling off ladders,
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that sort of thing.
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-So, when I talked to the Chief,
I told him, I said,
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"Nothing about him rang,"
you know,
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"he should be
a victim of violence
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based on what he's involved in."
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It seemed very, um, random.
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-It was like, "Well, this must
have some type of back story
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that we're just
going to figure out later.
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Then it'll all come together."
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-When I drove up,
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I could see the lawnmower
just kind of half on the curb,
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like maybe it just cut off.
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There was a little bit
of commotion,
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and a few people were around
Sonny.
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So when I went over there
and kneeled down,
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I could see the blood,
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and I put my hand
on his shoulder.
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And I tried to say, you know,
"Don't try to get up.
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We got help coming on the way."
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Tried to give him
as much comfort as I could.
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I do remember him
taking his last breath,
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which was, uh, that's
something I won't forget.
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{\an1}I've never been beside somebody
that died right in front of you.
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-He may have had an accident
while he was mowing the lawn.
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-And you just kind of go, "Well,
was this a crime,
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is this a shooting,
or is this an accident?"
257
00:26:32,549 --> 00:26:36,529
-There was a EMS personnel,
and he said to me,
258
00:26:36,553 --> 00:26:40,492
"Doc, this man bled like
I've never seen before."
259
00:26:40,516 --> 00:26:46,498
260
00:26:46,522 --> 00:26:48,082
I just kept shaking my head,
261
00:26:48,106 --> 00:26:51,878
said, "This doesn't add up
to a lawnmower accident."
262
00:26:51,902 --> 00:26:55,924
We flipped him and saw
the entrance wound.
263
00:26:55,948 --> 00:26:58,802
A very high velocity bullet.
264
00:26:58,826 --> 00:27:02,764
We were able to track it up
through the chest.
265
00:27:02,788 --> 00:27:07,936
A small bullet may carry
a tremendous amount of energy.
266
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:12,965
And the energy, when it strikes
tissue, dissipates
267
00:27:14,967 --> 00:27:18,220
and ravages
any soft tissue in its path.
268
00:27:33,068 --> 00:27:37,948
-We started thinking army type,
high-powered rifle.
269
00:27:44,162 --> 00:27:49,084
-Okay, I get it now,
this is clearly a homicide.
270
00:28:03,265 --> 00:28:07,662
-I drove up here, and I wound
down the passenger side window.
271
00:28:07,686 --> 00:28:09,980
It was a very warm day,
and my son was in the back.
272
00:28:16,695 --> 00:28:20,466
-And I looked to my right,
and there was a man, taxi man,
273
00:28:20,490 --> 00:28:23,344
filling the car from
under the license plate,
274
00:28:23,368 --> 00:28:25,388
which I had never seen before.
275
00:28:25,412 --> 00:28:28,182
And I looked at him,
and he made eye contact with me,
276
00:28:28,206 --> 00:28:30,351
and I sort of smiled and nodded.
277
00:28:30,375 --> 00:28:32,604
I was a little bit embarrassed
that I was staring at him.
278
00:28:32,628 --> 00:28:34,338
And he sort of nodded back.
279
00:28:37,424 --> 00:28:39,611
-And then I looked down
to get my bag
280
00:28:39,635 --> 00:28:41,428
and pull my credit card out.
281
00:28:46,558 --> 00:28:48,119
-And then I heard a bang.
282
00:28:48,143 --> 00:28:54,542
283
00:28:54,566 --> 00:28:56,961
I got out of the car.
284
00:28:56,985 --> 00:28:59,279
I was shaking.
285
00:29:01,698 --> 00:29:03,635
I was really terrified.
286
00:29:03,659 --> 00:29:11,659
287
00:29:23,011 --> 00:29:27,283
-I believe we were still
working off pagers at the time.
288
00:29:27,307 --> 00:29:30,745
I get a page about the Mobil
gas station shooting,
289
00:29:30,769 --> 00:29:32,080
Mr Walekar.
290
00:29:32,104 --> 00:29:33,397
He'd been shot.
291
00:29:45,367 --> 00:29:53,083
292
00:30:58,023 --> 00:31:00,334
Hurry
293
00:31:00,358 --> 00:31:02,128
-Travelling
to the Mobil station,
294
00:31:02,152 --> 00:31:04,881
call came over the radio
that we had a suicide
295
00:31:04,905 --> 00:31:08,992
that occurred, um,
in front of the chicken store.
296
00:31:11,286 --> 00:31:14,557
When I got to the Mobil station,
a lot of pandemonium.
297
00:31:14,581 --> 00:31:19,353
We had people that heard a shot,
but we had no eyewitnesses.
298
00:31:19,377 --> 00:31:21,689
-I get another page,
and they go,
299
00:31:21,713 --> 00:31:23,816
they can't find a gun
at the suicide.
300
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,903
-This is no suicide,
that was a homicide,
301
00:31:26,927 --> 00:31:28,553
she was shot in the head.
302
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:39,624
So, within the hour, I now have
a homicide down in Bethesda,
303
00:31:39,648 --> 00:31:41,375
I have a homicide that occurred
304
00:31:41,399 --> 00:31:43,961
at the shopping center
up the street,
305
00:31:43,985 --> 00:31:48,216
and then the homicide that I was
on at the Mobil station.
306
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,886
-Homicides back to back
to back to back.
307
00:31:51,910 --> 00:31:55,163
And so at this point,
I go to the gas station.
308
00:32:00,377 --> 00:32:02,587
-This is... there's the cab
right through there.
309
00:32:07,759 --> 00:32:10,029
-Media have begun to amass,
310
00:32:10,053 --> 00:32:12,198
and we told them,
"Let us figure out what we have,
311
00:32:12,222 --> 00:32:14,367
and I'll be over
as soon as we could."
312
00:32:14,391 --> 00:32:17,995
-It is bone-chilling,
this rampage of violence
313
00:32:18,019 --> 00:32:22,083
that occurred here in Montgomery
County in suburban Washington.
314
00:32:22,107 --> 00:32:23,918
This is really mindboggling.
315
00:32:23,942 --> 00:32:25,920
-They wanted to know
what was going on.
316
00:32:25,944 --> 00:32:28,214
They wanted the information,
and they wanted it now.
317
00:32:28,238 --> 00:32:32,135
They were not just hungry
for information to do their job,
318
00:32:32,159 --> 00:32:35,054
they were hungry for information
just like the public was,
319
00:32:35,078 --> 00:32:38,266
out of fear that they
didn't know what was going on.
320
00:32:38,290 --> 00:32:40,601
-We understand people wanna know
about this,
321
00:32:40,625 --> 00:32:44,188
but at this point, we have
very little hard evidence.
322
00:32:44,212 --> 00:32:45,652
We don't know
who we're dealing with.
323
00:32:47,340 --> 00:32:50,927
-We didn't have much
to give them.
324
00:32:53,430 --> 00:32:56,951
-But when Sarah Ramos was shot,
there's a witness that comes up
325
00:32:56,975 --> 00:32:59,453
and says that after the sound
of the shot,
326
00:32:59,477 --> 00:33:01,789
there was a white van
that sped rapidly
327
00:33:01,813 --> 00:33:03,875
form the scene of the crime.
328
00:33:03,899 --> 00:33:08,254
And at that point, that's the
only information that we have.
329
00:33:08,278 --> 00:33:13,092
It's possibly an Isuzu,
what they call a box truck.
330
00:33:13,116 --> 00:33:14,927
Sort of like the U-Haul
smaller ones
331
00:33:14,951 --> 00:33:16,345
when you move your furniture.
332
00:33:16,369 --> 00:33:19,140
Uh, damage to the left rear
lift panel.
333
00:33:19,164 --> 00:33:21,225
Small black lettering
on the side.
334
00:33:21,249 --> 00:33:22,935
If you're a business owner
and you get deliveries
335
00:33:22,959 --> 00:33:24,312
from a truck
that sounds like this,
336
00:33:24,336 --> 00:33:26,397
and it has or has not delivered
today,
337
00:33:26,421 --> 00:33:28,316
that doesn't matter,
we'd like to hear from you.
338
00:33:28,340 --> 00:33:30,693
-So that actually might be a
good lead for you then?
339
00:33:30,717 --> 00:33:32,719
-Yes.
340
00:33:54,366 --> 00:33:57,011
-If you see a vehicle
341
00:33:57,035 --> 00:33:59,096
that matches
the description, call us.
342
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:00,973
Don't approach it, just get,
you know,
343
00:34:00,997 --> 00:34:03,375
get to the nearest phone
and dial 911.
344
00:34:15,804 --> 00:34:19,075
-The truth of the matter is
they really don't know much
345
00:34:19,099 --> 00:34:22,119
about the suspect
or suspects involved here.
346
00:34:22,143 --> 00:34:24,288
They don't know uh,
a description,
347
00:34:24,312 --> 00:34:25,706
they don't have a motive,
348
00:34:25,730 --> 00:34:28,751
and they really don't know
what to look for.
349
00:34:28,775 --> 00:34:30,127
-Excuse me.
350
00:34:30,151 --> 00:34:31,796
-We had early reports
it was a truck?
351
00:34:31,820 --> 00:34:34,590
-The chief... Chief is,
doing his best
352
00:34:34,614 --> 00:34:37,385
to keep the situation calm here,
353
00:34:37,409 --> 00:34:42,139
what we have are
5 separate shootings...
354
00:34:42,163 --> 00:34:49,879
355
00:35:01,599 --> 00:35:03,911
- by this time tomorrow morning,
356
00:35:03,935 --> 00:35:06,247
it, of course, will be
a much weaker storm,
357
00:35:06,271 --> 00:35:07,790
probably just
a tropical depression
358
00:35:07,814 --> 00:35:09,458
bringing a lot of heavy rain.
359
00:35:09,482 --> 00:35:11,168
That's what's going on
around the country,
360
00:35:11,192 --> 00:35:13,528
here's what's happening
in your neck of the woods.
361
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,475
-The Senate is debating
whether to give the President
362
00:35:26,499 --> 00:35:28,936
the go-ahead to use force
363
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:33,274
-My intent is to put together
a vast coalition of countries
364
00:35:33,298 --> 00:35:36,301
who understand the threat
of Saddam Hussein.
365
00:35:40,305 --> 00:35:43,492
-Saddam has got to understand
366
00:35:43,516 --> 00:35:45,101
that the will of this country
is strong.
367
00:36:37,237 --> 00:36:43,928
368
00:36:43,952 --> 00:36:50,684
369
00:36:50,708 --> 00:36:55,398
-When you track the progression
of John Muhammad,
370
00:36:55,422 --> 00:36:58,901
it's almost like a summer storm.
371
00:36:58,925 --> 00:37:01,612
It started with a drop.
372
00:37:01,636 --> 00:37:04,448
Then another drop.
Then a spray.
373
00:37:04,472 --> 00:37:06,909
Then the rain.
374
00:37:06,933 --> 00:37:08,994
Then the storm.
375
00:37:09,018 --> 00:37:10,704
Then just madness.
376
00:37:10,728 --> 00:37:18,728
377
00:37:20,655 --> 00:37:25,010
That first day, I don't think
any of us thought
378
00:37:25,034 --> 00:37:27,638
this would be weeks and weeks.
379
00:37:27,662 --> 00:37:31,308
So many innocent lives.
380
00:37:31,332 --> 00:37:34,270
The question is, "Why?"
381
00:37:34,294 --> 00:37:40,592
So, coming to Baton Rouge
was my desire to know why...
382
00:37:43,928 --> 00:37:46,240
John Muhammad.
383
00:37:46,264 --> 00:37:50,035
It was almost like... he almost
dropped the Muhammad
384
00:37:50,059 --> 00:37:53,289
because he was a "Williams,"
385
00:37:53,313 --> 00:37:57,692
part of a Williams family,
that was deep.
386
00:38:00,528 --> 00:38:05,492
-We're still wondering
and trying to find out why...
387
00:38:08,369 --> 00:38:10,747
to understand what went wrong.
388
00:38:13,333 --> 00:38:17,271
I have a picture of him.
389
00:38:17,295 --> 00:38:18,689
Every time I look at it,
390
00:38:18,713 --> 00:38:22,276
it just brings tears
to my eyes though.
391
00:38:22,300 --> 00:38:24,153
I don't, uh, I don't look.
392
00:38:24,177 --> 00:38:30,242
393
00:38:30,266 --> 00:38:34,371
His mother, she had breast
cancer,
394
00:38:34,395 --> 00:38:39,543
back in the '60s,
and she passed away.
395
00:38:39,567 --> 00:38:42,129
John was about 3.
396
00:38:42,153 --> 00:38:46,133
She was always hugging them,
kissing them, telling them,
397
00:38:46,157 --> 00:38:48,344
"I love you."
398
00:38:48,368 --> 00:38:50,971
John's father was called Ernest.
399
00:38:50,995 --> 00:38:53,766
He lived in New Orleans.
400
00:38:53,790 --> 00:38:56,810
He worked on the train.
401
00:38:56,834 --> 00:38:59,980
He would come to Baton Rouge
sometimes,
402
00:39:00,004 --> 00:39:03,317
on weekends and stay.
403
00:39:03,341 --> 00:39:09,240
But after the mother passed,
he wasn't there.
404
00:39:09,264 --> 00:39:11,867
He wasn't there.
405
00:39:11,891 --> 00:39:13,452
He wasn't.
406
00:39:13,476 --> 00:39:15,061
He wasn't there.
407
00:39:17,397 --> 00:39:20,918
I told him, "John, I'm going
to be your mother now."
408
00:39:20,942 --> 00:39:28,942
409
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:35,849
Excuse me...
410
00:39:35,873 --> 00:39:38,852
I said, "I'm going
to be your mother,
411
00:39:38,876 --> 00:39:41,438
I want you to call me Mommy."
412
00:39:41,462 --> 00:39:45,109
And he told me, "No,"
he never did call me Mommy.
413
00:39:45,133 --> 00:39:53,133
414
00:40:23,004 --> 00:40:25,506
-I think the world thinks
that he was a monster.
415
00:40:28,092 --> 00:40:30,219
Is there such a thing
as a monster?
416
00:40:35,683 --> 00:40:39,163
I first met him
at my parents' home.
417
00:40:39,187 --> 00:40:42,666
He was tall, dark, and handsome.
418
00:40:42,690 --> 00:40:47,713
He liked to have fun,
he liked to kid around.
419
00:40:47,737 --> 00:40:51,342
What I heard from him, and also
his brother, he was raised...
420
00:40:51,366 --> 00:40:54,595
It was several families
living in one house.
421
00:40:54,619 --> 00:40:56,263
They got the last of everything.
422
00:40:56,287 --> 00:40:58,265
They got hand-me-down clothes.
423
00:40:58,289 --> 00:41:02,102
They didn't get an opportunity
to get new things.
424
00:41:02,126 --> 00:41:06,023
They always got the leftovers.
425
00:41:06,047 --> 00:41:07,566
That's how they lived.
426
00:41:07,590 --> 00:41:10,736
-Mnh-mnh. That's what I told
you, we were poor.
427
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:15,991
I remember hearing my father say
he made $2.00 at work all day.
428
00:41:16,015 --> 00:41:17,951
Get $2.00.
429
00:41:17,975 --> 00:41:22,289
They were working in fields,
plantations.
430
00:41:22,313 --> 00:41:29,654
431
00:41:56,931 --> 00:41:59,993
-Descendants of slaves
who were taken
432
00:42:00,017 --> 00:42:02,079
and brought here as a commodity
433
00:42:02,103 --> 00:42:04,415
on the banks
of the Mississippi River,
434
00:42:04,439 --> 00:42:07,751
and then deposited
after it was all over
435
00:42:07,775 --> 00:42:09,444
and say, "Now live your life."
436
00:42:28,337 --> 00:42:32,776
-I can see that he was trying
to find something to fit in.
437
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:37,096
And he never really found
that when we were together.
438
00:42:40,725 --> 00:42:42,769
It was still something missing.
439
00:43:17,887 --> 00:43:19,823
-Five people shot and killed
440
00:43:19,847 --> 00:43:22,534
within a 1-mile radius
in the span of 16 hours.
441
00:43:22,558 --> 00:43:24,411
-You're the police.
You're supposed to find,
442
00:43:24,435 --> 00:43:28,022
you're supposed to protect us,
and we couldn't do any of that.
443
00:43:34,445 --> 00:43:38,133
-I saw like a car moved off
from behind these trees here.
444
00:43:38,157 --> 00:43:41,094
It was a Caprice,
a dark color Caprice.
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