Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated:
1
00:00:02,103 --> 00:00:05,004
Narrator: THE NAZIS AND THEIR
RUTHLESS PURSUIT OF WORLD DOMINATION
2
00:00:05,006 --> 00:00:06,538
IS THE STUFF OF LEGEND,
3
00:00:06,540 --> 00:00:08,774
BUT IS THERE ANY TRUTH
TO THE IDEA
4
00:00:08,776 --> 00:00:10,809
THAT HITLER WAS USING
BLACK MAGIC
5
00:00:10,811 --> 00:00:14,213
AND WITCHCRAFT IN HIS QUESTS
TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD?
6
00:00:14,215 --> 00:00:17,683
FOR THE NAZIS,
THE OCCULT WAS LIKE OXYGEN.
7
00:00:17,685 --> 00:00:20,953
IT WAS THE BACKBONE
OF THEIR IDEOLOGY.
8
00:00:20,955 --> 00:00:23,822
THEY WERE TRYING TO USE
PSEUDO-SCIENCE OF THE TIME
9
00:00:23,824 --> 00:00:27,359
TO JUSTIFY
WHY THE ARYAN RACE WAS SUPERIOR.
10
00:00:27,361 --> 00:00:30,262
Picknett: THEY BASICALLY TURNED
NORMAL, CIVILIZED
11
00:00:30,264 --> 00:00:31,897
HUMAN BEINGS INTO MONSTERS,
12
00:00:31,899 --> 00:00:35,567
SO THAT HAS TO BE
A SINISTER OCCULT RITUAL.
13
00:00:35,569 --> 00:00:39,338
Farrar:
IF MAGIC IS EVER USED TO DESTROY
SOMETHING IT IS USED
14
00:00:39,340 --> 00:00:40,672
TO DESTROY EVIL,
15
00:00:40,674 --> 00:00:44,276
SUCH AS STOPPING THE NAZIS
FROM INVADING BRITAIN.
16
00:00:44,278 --> 00:00:47,813
Felix:
IF THE NAZIS HAD STOPPED ALL
THIS NONSENSE WITH ASTRONOMY,
17
00:00:47,815 --> 00:00:50,983
ASTROLOGERS,
DOWSING, TAROT CARDS,
18
00:00:50,985 --> 00:00:52,518
IF THEY'D STOPPED ALL THAT
AND GOT ON
19
00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:54,119
WITH THE WAR PROPERLY,
20
00:00:54,121 --> 00:00:56,021
I THINK THEY'D PROBABLY
HAVE BEATEN US.
21
00:00:56,023 --> 00:01:02,094
¶
22
00:01:02,096 --> 00:01:08,167
¶
23
00:01:08,169 --> 00:01:14,206
¶
24
00:01:14,208 --> 00:01:17,209
FORBIDDEN HISTORY - SEASON 6
EP - 7 - Hitler's Occult Conspiracy
25
00:01:17,211 --> 00:01:20,245
Subtitles Diego Moraes
26
00:01:23,751 --> 00:01:27,619
Narrator:
IN THE YEARS LEADING UP TO NAZI
GERMANY'S DECLARATION OF WAR,
27
00:01:27,621 --> 00:01:30,122
A BIZARRE OBSESSION
BEGAN TO TAKE HOLD
28
00:01:30,124 --> 00:01:32,458
WITHIN THE NEWLY-FORMED
POLITICAL PARTY.
29
00:01:32,460 --> 00:01:36,495
A STRANGE TWISTED MYTHOLOGY
BASED ON ANCIENT PAGAN BELIEFS
30
00:01:36,497 --> 00:01:39,298
AND SORCERY,
WAS BEGINNING TO EMERGE.
31
00:01:39,300 --> 00:01:41,433
Dr. Selwood:
TODAY, WHEN WE THINK OF NAZISM,
32
00:01:41,435 --> 00:01:44,403
WE TEND TO LOOK AT
A POLITICAL IDEOLOGY
33
00:01:44,405 --> 00:01:47,239
THAT WAS BENT
ON TERRITORIAL CONQUESTS
34
00:01:47,241 --> 00:01:50,175
AND ON RACIAL EXTERMINATION.
35
00:01:50,177 --> 00:01:51,810
BUT ACTUALLY IT'S BROADER
THAN THAT.
36
00:01:51,812 --> 00:01:55,647
THERE'S A MORE PHILOSOPHICAL
PART OF NAZISM AS WELL.
37
00:01:55,649 --> 00:02:01,386
Picknett:
THE NAZIS SUBSCRIBED TO AN
EXTREME VERSION OF ARIOSOPHY.
38
00:02:01,388 --> 00:02:04,223
ARIOSOPHY WAS THE IDEA
39
00:02:04,225 --> 00:02:07,726
THAT THERE WAS AN ANCIENT
GERMANIC ARYAN RACE,
40
00:02:07,728 --> 00:02:10,696
THAT WAS A PURE RACE,
A STRONG RACE.
41
00:02:10,698 --> 00:02:14,833
Gough:
THIS NOTION OF THIS ANCIENT,
MYSTIC, ARYAN RACE
42
00:02:14,835 --> 00:02:17,202
THAT'S BEEN AROUND
THOUSANDS OF YEARS,
43
00:02:17,204 --> 00:02:20,672
THEY FELT THAT GAVE THEM
ENTITLEMENT.
44
00:02:20,674 --> 00:02:23,876
AND WAS THE MOTIVATION
AND THE JUSTIFICATION
45
00:02:23,878 --> 00:02:26,612
FOR ALL OF THEIR
DESPICABLE ACTIONS.
46
00:02:29,383 --> 00:02:32,017
Narrator:
HEINRICH HIMMLER WAS HITLER'S
SECOND IN COMMAND
47
00:02:32,019 --> 00:02:35,320
AND THE MAN CHIEFLY RESPONSIBLE
FOR ACTIVELY ENCOURAGING
48
00:02:35,322 --> 00:02:37,089
NOT ONLY THE BELIEF
IN THE OCCULT,
49
00:02:37,091 --> 00:02:40,692
BUT ALSO THE IDEA THAT THE NAZIS
REALLY WERE DESCENDED
50
00:02:40,694 --> 00:02:43,328
FROM A SUPER RACE OF BEINGS.
51
00:02:43,330 --> 00:02:47,666
Gough:
HEINRICH HIMMLER WAS ONE OF THE
MOST POWERFUL MEN IN GERMANY.
52
00:02:47,668 --> 00:02:53,105
HE WAS HITLER'S RIGHT HAND MAN
AND THE COMMANDER OF THE SS.
53
00:02:53,107 --> 00:02:54,873
Dr. Bellinger:
HE WAS A RABID OCCULTIST.
54
00:02:54,875 --> 00:02:56,909
AND REALLY BROUGHT TO HITLER
55
00:02:56,911 --> 00:03:00,045
A WHOLE PANOPLY
OF PROPAGANDA TOOLS
56
00:03:00,047 --> 00:03:04,616
THAT HE COULD USE TO JUSTIFY
WHAT THE NAZIS WERE DOING.
57
00:03:04,618 --> 00:03:09,755
AND TO REALLY PLACE IT IN THE
ROOTS OF A FALSE ARYAN MYTHOLOGY
58
00:03:09,757 --> 00:03:14,426
DESIGNED TO MAKE THE AVERAGE
GERMAN PERSON FEEL NOT JUST OKAY
59
00:03:14,428 --> 00:03:17,996
WITH WHAT HITLER WAS DOING,
BUT PROUD OF IT.
60
00:03:17,998 --> 00:03:22,301
McMahon:
HEINRICH HIMMLER WAS THE FOUNDER
AND THE HEAD OF THE SS.
61
00:03:22,303 --> 00:03:25,204
HE ALSO ENDED UP LEADING
THE GESTAPO
62
00:03:25,206 --> 00:03:27,973
AND EVENTUALLY FOUNDED
THE CONCENTRATION CAMPS
63
00:03:27,975 --> 00:03:30,342
THAT KILLED MILLIONS OF PEOPLE.
64
00:03:30,344 --> 00:03:33,078
AND WHAT DROVE HIM
IN HIS MISSION
65
00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:37,149
WAS THIS UNDERLYING BELIEF
THAT THE GERMAN PEOPLE
66
00:03:37,151 --> 00:03:40,185
WERE SET APART
FROM THE REST OF HUMANITY.
67
00:03:40,187 --> 00:03:41,553
AND IN ORDER TO PROVE THAT,
68
00:03:41,555 --> 00:03:45,324
HE DELVED VERY DEEPLY
INTO THE OCCULT.
69
00:03:45,326 --> 00:03:50,229
HE NEEDED TO FIND A SUPERNATURAL
BACK STORY TO THE GERMAN PEOPLE
70
00:03:50,231 --> 00:03:53,932
AND THAT LED HIM ON THE TRAIL
OF THE HOLY GRAIL.
71
00:03:53,934 --> 00:03:56,802
IT LED HIM TO SEND PEOPLE
ALL OVER THE WORLD
72
00:03:56,804 --> 00:04:02,074
LOOKING FOR NON-EVOLUTIONARY
ROOTS OF THE GERMAN PEOPLE.
73
00:04:05,913 --> 00:04:08,814
Narrator: ERIC KURLANDER
IS A HISTORIAN AND AUTHOR
74
00:04:08,816 --> 00:04:11,783
WHO HAS RESEARCHED
NAZI OCCULTISM FOR DECADES.
75
00:04:11,785 --> 00:04:14,119
HE HAS TRAVELED TO
QUEDLINBURG CASTLE,
76
00:04:14,121 --> 00:04:17,122
A 1,000-YEAR OLD FORTRESS
IN CENTRAL GERMANY
77
00:04:17,124 --> 00:04:21,126
TO UNCOVER THE ORIGIN
OF HIMMLER'S OCCULT OBSESSION.
78
00:04:21,128 --> 00:04:25,063
SO WE'RE APPROACHING THE
QUEDLINBURG CASTLE AND ABBEY
79
00:04:25,065 --> 00:04:28,267
WHICH WAS FOUNDED 1,100 YEARS
AGO BY HENRY THE FOWLER,
80
00:04:28,269 --> 00:04:30,035
THE GREAT SAXON KING.
81
00:04:30,037 --> 00:04:33,238
HENRY THE FOWLER WAS SEEN
AS MORE AUTHENTICALLY GERMAN
82
00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,741
THAN OTHER GERMANIC KINGS
OF THE MIDDLE AGES,
83
00:04:35,743 --> 00:04:38,844
BY HEINRICH HIMMLER,
THE REICH'S FUHRER SS,
84
00:04:38,846 --> 00:04:41,813
WHO DECIDED THAT
THIS WOULD BE A SITE
85
00:04:41,815 --> 00:04:46,184
WHERE YOU COULD CELEBRATE
GERMANIC PAGANISM.
86
00:04:46,186 --> 00:04:48,654
Dr. Bellinger:
HENRY THE FOWLER WAS
KING HEINRICH THE FIRST
87
00:04:48,656 --> 00:04:50,856
AND HE UNIFIED
FOR THE FIRST TIME,
88
00:04:50,858 --> 00:04:53,992
THE GERMAN STATE IN 956
89
00:04:53,994 --> 00:04:57,496
AND BROUGHT TOGETHER EVERYBODY
OUT OF WARRING TERRITORIES.
90
00:04:57,498 --> 00:05:00,899
AND IT WAS THE LAUNCH OF WHAT
BECAME KNOWN AS THE FIRST REICH.
91
00:05:00,901 --> 00:05:03,101
SO IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE
THAT HIMMLER WAS GOING
92
00:05:03,103 --> 00:05:08,073
TO APPROPRIATE THIS MYTH
FOR PROPAGANDA PURPOSES.
93
00:05:08,075 --> 00:05:09,841
Kurlander:
SO HIMMLER WAS RAISED CATHOLIC,
94
00:05:09,843 --> 00:05:13,145
BUT HE VERY EARLY ON REJECTED
HIS CHRISTIAN UPBRINGING.
95
00:05:13,147 --> 00:05:15,147
AND SOUGHT TO CREATE
THROUGH THE SS,
96
00:05:15,149 --> 00:05:18,617
A KIND OF PRE-CHRISTIAN
RELIGIOUS TRADITION IN GERMANY.
97
00:05:18,619 --> 00:05:20,919
AN ARIO-GERMANIC RELIGION.
98
00:05:20,921 --> 00:05:22,120
ONE WAY HE WAS GOING TO DO THAT
99
00:05:22,122 --> 00:05:24,589
WAS BY TAKING
CHRISTIAN FESTIVALS,
100
00:05:24,591 --> 00:05:26,425
LIKE CHRISTMAS
AND REPLACING THEM
101
00:05:26,427 --> 00:05:28,560
WITH THE OLD
WINTER SOLSTICE FESTIVALS,
102
00:05:28,562 --> 00:05:33,799
THE YULE CELEBRATIONS OF
PRE-CHRISTIAN PAGAN TRADITION.
103
00:05:33,801 --> 00:05:37,069
FOR EXAMPLE, IN THIS ROOM,
IN 1936,
104
00:05:37,071 --> 00:05:39,604
HE INAUGURATED
THE FIRST FESTIVAL
105
00:05:39,606 --> 00:05:42,908
IN HONOR OF HENRY THE FOWLER,
THE GREAT SAXON KING,
106
00:05:42,910 --> 00:05:46,978
WHO FOR HIM REPRESENTED
THE PRE-CHRISTIAN GERMAN REALITY
107
00:05:46,980 --> 00:05:49,981
THAT HE WANTED TO RECREATE.
108
00:05:49,983 --> 00:05:54,119
HIMMLER GENUINELY BELIEVED THAT
HE WAS EITHER THE REINCARNATION
109
00:05:54,121 --> 00:05:56,221
OR THE DESCENDANT
OF HENRY THE FOWLER.
110
00:05:56,223 --> 00:05:59,324
AND HIMMLER,
IN HIS DELUDED STATE,
111
00:05:59,326 --> 00:06:03,495
USED TO GO TO THE ABBEY,
HOLD SéANCES IN THE ABBEY,
112
00:06:03,497 --> 00:06:07,466
PRAYED AT THE GRAVE OR
THE SHRINE OF HENRY THE FOULER.
113
00:06:07,468 --> 00:06:10,602
AND GENUINELY BELIEVED
THAT HE WAS ABLE TO CONNECT
114
00:06:10,604 --> 00:06:14,239
WITH THE SPIRIT
OF HIS DEAD ANCESTOR.
115
00:06:17,511 --> 00:06:21,546
Kurlander:
SO WE'RE STANDING IN THE OLDEST
PART OF THE QUEDLINBURG
116
00:06:21,548 --> 00:06:23,982
CASTLE AND MONASTERY.
117
00:06:23,984 --> 00:06:25,751
WHERE HENRY THE FOWLER,
118
00:06:25,753 --> 00:06:29,221
WHO BUILT THE VERY FOUNDATIONS
OF THIS MONASTERY,
119
00:06:29,223 --> 00:06:32,891
WAS BURIED A THOUSAND YEARS AGO.
120
00:06:32,893 --> 00:06:35,127
SO ONE OF THE REASONS THAT
HEINRICH HIMMLER
121
00:06:35,129 --> 00:06:37,963
FOUND THIS SPACE SO INTERESTING,
122
00:06:37,965 --> 00:06:41,199
IS IT WASN'T JUST
THE SAXON ORIGINS,
123
00:06:41,201 --> 00:06:43,301
THE BASIS OF
ARIO-GERMANIC EMPIRE
124
00:06:43,303 --> 00:06:45,637
THAT HE AND THE SS
WANTED TO RECREATE,
125
00:06:45,639 --> 00:06:47,272
HE ACTUALLY BELIEVED
HE MAY HAVE BEEN
126
00:06:47,274 --> 00:06:51,243
THE REINCARNATION
OF HENRY THE FOWLER.
127
00:06:51,245 --> 00:06:54,579
SO THIS SPACE REALLY REPRESENT
ONE PART OF WHAT I CALL
128
00:06:54,581 --> 00:06:59,117
THE SUPERNATURAL IMAGINARY
THAT MANY NAZIS SUBSCRIBE TO.
129
00:06:59,119 --> 00:07:01,086
IT'S LINKED TO PAGAN RELIGION.
130
00:07:01,088 --> 00:07:03,422
AN ARIO-GERMANIC
RELIGIOUS BELIEFS,
131
00:07:03,424 --> 00:07:05,157
KIND OF PRE-CHRISTIAN BELIEFS,
132
00:07:05,159 --> 00:07:07,759
THAT WAS AN IMPORTANT PILLAR
OF NAZI THINKING.
133
00:07:07,761 --> 00:07:12,597
IT OVERLAPS IN SOME WAYS
WITH OCCULT AND ESOTERIC IDEAS,
134
00:07:12,599 --> 00:07:13,932
BUT IT'S NOT THE SAME THING
135
00:07:13,934 --> 00:07:16,134
AND THAT'S WHY
THE QUEDLINBURG IS MORE
136
00:07:16,136 --> 00:07:20,806
A KIND OF PAGAN RELIGIOUS SITE
FOR HEINRICH HIMMLER.
137
00:07:20,808 --> 00:07:22,908
Walters: SO WHAT YOU SEE
WITH THIS YOUNG HIMMLER,
138
00:07:22,910 --> 00:07:24,142
HE'S VERY IMPRESSIONABLE.
139
00:07:24,144 --> 00:07:26,711
HE LOOKS BACK ALONG THE PRUSSIAN
AND GERMANIC PAST,
140
00:07:26,713 --> 00:07:31,316
MYTH AND LEGEND AND THERE
HE FINDS EXAMPLES AND STORIES
141
00:07:31,318 --> 00:07:34,553
AND THE KIND OF HEROES,
THAT HE ALWAYS WANTS TO BE.
142
00:07:34,555 --> 00:07:36,655
AND SO THEREFORE,
HE'S VERY SEDUCED
143
00:07:36,657 --> 00:07:39,624
BY THE WHOLE FEEL
OF THAT LEGEND AND MYTH
144
00:07:39,626 --> 00:07:41,960
AND ALSO BY
THE ESOTERIC-ISM OF IT.
145
00:07:41,962 --> 00:07:45,163
AND HE REALLY BUYS IN TO ALL
THE RUNES AND THE CULTURE
146
00:07:45,165 --> 00:07:48,099
AND THE MAGIC
AND ALL THE MUMBO-JUMBO.
147
00:07:48,101 --> 00:07:51,770
Narrator:
BUT HIMMLER'S STRANGE BELIEFS
IN ANCIENT GERMAN MYTHOLOGY
148
00:07:51,772 --> 00:07:53,238
AND ESOTERIC-ISM,
149
00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,041
SOON TOOK
A MUCH MORE SINISTER TURN.
150
00:07:56,043 --> 00:08:00,045
WHILE STUDYING FARMING AT THE
TECHNICAL UNIVERSITY IN MUNICH,
151
00:08:00,047 --> 00:08:02,280
HIMMLER BECAME FASCINATED
WITH BREEDING.
152
00:08:02,282 --> 00:08:03,548
SELECTIVE BREEDING.
153
00:08:03,550 --> 00:08:06,251
NOT JUST ANIMALS,
BUT ALSO HUMAN BEINGS.
154
00:08:06,253 --> 00:08:09,821
COULD WE CREATE OR RECREATE
MORE IMPORTANTLY, A MASTER RACE?
155
00:08:09,823 --> 00:08:12,424
SINCE HIMMLER BELIEVED THAT
THE ARYAN RACE
156
00:08:12,426 --> 00:08:15,093
HAD BEEN PERFECT
THOUSANDS OF YEARS EARLIER,
157
00:08:15,095 --> 00:08:17,362
MAYBE YOU COULD USE MODERN
BREEDING TECHNIQUES
158
00:08:17,364 --> 00:08:21,600
TO BRING THIS ARYAN UTOPIA
BACK INTO BEING.
159
00:08:21,602 --> 00:08:24,269
Dr. Selwood:
NAZISM WAS FOR THE WHOLE PERSON.
160
00:08:24,271 --> 00:08:27,772
IT WASN'T JUST ABOUT THE
POLITICAL SIDE OF AN INDIVIDUAL.
161
00:08:27,774 --> 00:08:29,808
AND SO ELEMENTS THAT WERE
BROUGHT IN,
162
00:08:29,810 --> 00:08:31,176
THE PEOPLE
REALLY IDENTIFIED WITH
163
00:08:31,178 --> 00:08:34,145
AND THERE'S SO MUCH LITERATURE
FROM THE PERIOD ON THIS,
164
00:08:34,147 --> 00:08:35,847
WAS PARTICULARLY LINKING,
165
00:08:35,849 --> 00:08:38,683
THEY ARE DESCENDED
FROM THESE SUPER PEOPLE,
166
00:08:38,685 --> 00:08:40,318
WHO LIVED MILLENIA AGO.
167
00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,020
SO THIS IS A TRADITION.
168
00:08:42,022 --> 00:08:43,355
IT'S A CONTINUATION.
169
00:08:43,357 --> 00:08:45,524
THE NAZIS DIDN'T THINK THEY WERE
INVENTING SOMETHING.
170
00:08:45,526 --> 00:08:49,761
THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE TAPPING
INTO AN ANCIENT FORCE.
171
00:08:49,763 --> 00:08:53,098
Narrator:
INSPIRED BY GERMAN PAGANISM,
HIMMLER TOOK HIS OCCULT
172
00:08:53,100 --> 00:08:56,468
THINKING EVEN FURTHER
AND USED AN ANCIENT CODE
173
00:08:56,470 --> 00:08:59,437
TO CREATE THE MOST FEARED
SYMBOL OF ALL.
174
00:09:01,341 --> 00:09:08,313
¶
175
00:09:08,315 --> 00:09:10,148
Narrator:
IN THE LEAD UP TO WORLD WAR TWO,
176
00:09:10,150 --> 00:09:12,250
THE NAZIS BECAME
INCREASINGLY OBSESSED
177
00:09:12,252 --> 00:09:16,087
WITH ANCIENT GERMAN MYTHOLOGY
AND BLACK MAGIC.
178
00:09:16,089 --> 00:09:19,891
McMahon:
FROM THE OUTSET, THE NAZIS
WERE HEAVILY INFLUENCED
179
00:09:19,893 --> 00:09:21,526
BY OCCULT IDEAS.
180
00:09:21,528 --> 00:09:24,829
HITLER, HIMMLER, AND OTHERS
WERE DESPERATE TO PROVE
181
00:09:24,831 --> 00:09:29,034
THAT THE "ARYAN RACE" HAD
SOMEHOW ORIGINATED
182
00:09:29,036 --> 00:09:30,802
SEPARATELY FROM
THE REST OF HUMANITY.
183
00:09:30,804 --> 00:09:34,573
AND IN ORDER TO PROVE THAT
HIGHLY UNSCIENTIFIC THEORY,
184
00:09:34,575 --> 00:09:37,375
THEY NEEDED TO RESORT
TO SOMETHING SUPERNATURAL,
185
00:09:37,377 --> 00:09:39,010
SOMETHING OCCULT.
186
00:09:39,012 --> 00:09:42,147
Dr. Bellinger:
BY TELLING THE GERMAN PEOPLE
THAT THEY WERE DESCENDED
187
00:09:42,149 --> 00:09:45,884
FROM A MASTER RACE,
A SUPERIOR RACE OF BEINGS,
188
00:09:45,886 --> 00:09:53,158
THAT LITERALLY DERIVED FROM EPIC
MYTHOLOGY OF SUPERB PEACE,
189
00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,261
HARMONY, AND ACHIEVEMENT,
THIS IS REALLY CANNY.
190
00:09:56,263 --> 00:09:58,463
I MEAN THIS WAS DIRECTLY
ADDRESSING
191
00:09:58,465 --> 00:10:01,066
THE PSYCHOLOGICAL DAMAGE
DONE UPON
192
00:10:01,068 --> 00:10:05,003
THE GERMAN NATIONAL PSYCHE
BY WORLD WAR I.
193
00:10:05,005 --> 00:10:08,807
Narrator:
GUIDO VON LIST WAS A KEY FIGURE
IN EARLY NAZI OCCULTISM
194
00:10:08,809 --> 00:10:11,610
AND A MAJOR INFLUENCE
ON HEINRICH HIMMLER.
195
00:10:11,612 --> 00:10:16,615
Gough:
GUIDO VON LIST WAS AN OCCULTIST
WHO REVIVED A RELIGIOUS MOVEMENT
196
00:10:16,617 --> 00:10:22,587
WHICH SHOWED THE ANCIENT ARYAN
ROOTS OF THE GERMANIC PEOPLE.
197
00:10:22,589 --> 00:10:24,489
AND WHY THIS WAS SO IMPORTANT,
198
00:10:24,491 --> 00:10:28,393
IS THAT IT SERVED
AS THE INSPIRATION TO HIMMLER
199
00:10:28,395 --> 00:10:31,663
WHO WOULD LATER ADOPT
THESE SAME BELIEFS.
200
00:10:31,665 --> 00:10:34,933
Dr. Bellinger:
GUIDO VON LIST WAS A PAGANIST
WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE,
201
00:10:34,935 --> 00:10:36,801
LARGELY, FOR THE RUNIC REVIVAL,
202
00:10:36,803 --> 00:10:39,304
WHICH BECAME A REALLY
CENTRAL PART OF THE SYMBOLISM
203
00:10:39,306 --> 00:10:41,973
AND ICONOGRAPHY
OF THE NAZI PARTY.
204
00:10:41,975 --> 00:10:46,211
AND PARTICULARLY OF THE REGALIA
WORN BY THE SS.
205
00:10:49,516 --> 00:10:52,250
Narrator:
IT WAS LIST'S TEACHINGS THAT
ENCOURAGED HIMMLER
206
00:10:52,252 --> 00:10:55,720
TO TURN HIS TWISTED MIND
TO AN ANCIENT LANGUAGE
207
00:10:55,722 --> 00:10:58,456
MADE OF MAGICAL SYMBOLS
CALLED RUNES.
208
00:10:58,458 --> 00:11:01,526
GAVIN BONE IS A HISTORIAN
AND EXPERT ON RUNES,
209
00:11:01,528 --> 00:11:05,597
WHO BELIEVES THEY ARE THE KEY TO
UNDERSTANDING NAZI ICONOGRAPHY.
210
00:11:05,599 --> 00:11:09,567
Bone:
SO THE WORD RUNE COMES FROM
THE OLD GERMAN, "RUNYON"
211
00:11:09,569 --> 00:11:14,105
WHICH MEANS A MYSTERY, A SECRET,
TO WHISPER, SOMETHING HIDDEN.
212
00:11:14,107 --> 00:11:17,909
AND THE RUNES ORIGINALLY WERE
A SYSTEM OF WRITING
213
00:11:17,911 --> 00:11:21,279
AMONGST THE GERMAN PEOPLES
GOING BACK, THEY BELIEVE,
214
00:11:21,281 --> 00:11:23,448
AS FAR BACK AS 200 BC.
215
00:11:23,450 --> 00:11:26,551
THEIR ORIGINS IN NAZI OCCULTISM
216
00:11:26,553 --> 00:11:28,653
DERIVE FROM
AN AUSTRIAN JOURNALIST,
217
00:11:28,655 --> 00:11:33,291
PLAYWRIGHT AND AUTHOR
NAMED GUIDO LIST.
218
00:11:33,293 --> 00:11:37,896
GUIDO VON LIST BELIEVED THAT
THERE HAD BEEN A GERMANIC EMPIRE
219
00:11:37,898 --> 00:11:40,932
THAT WORSHIPED
A PAGAN GOD, WOTAN,
220
00:11:40,934 --> 00:11:43,101
AND THAT USED THIS RUNIC SCRIPT.
221
00:11:43,103 --> 00:11:46,337
AND IN FACT, THE NAZIS
LATCHED ON TO THIS IDEA
222
00:11:46,339 --> 00:11:49,741
OF THE RUNIC ALPHABET
BEING THE TRUE GERMAN ALPHABET.
223
00:11:49,743 --> 00:11:51,843
AND IT INFORMED
THEIR ICONOGRAPHY,
224
00:11:51,845 --> 00:11:56,014
IN PARTICULAR THE SS LOGO
THAT WE ALL KNOW TODAY.
225
00:11:56,016 --> 00:12:00,418
Bone:
VON LIST IS RESPONSIBLE FOR IS
THE INTEGRATION OF THE RUNES
226
00:12:00,420 --> 00:12:04,022
INTO THE SS AS SYMBOLS.
227
00:12:04,024 --> 00:12:07,192
ONE OF THE MOST FAMOUS SYMBOLS
THE NAZI'S WERE ASSOCIATED WITH
228
00:12:07,194 --> 00:12:10,261
WAS THE DOUBLE LIGHTNING FLASH,
THE DOUBLE SIG
229
00:12:10,263 --> 00:12:13,031
OR THE SCHUTZSTAFFEL... THE SS.
230
00:12:13,033 --> 00:12:16,801
WHICH COMES FROM THE SIG RUNE
ALSO KNOWN AS THE SOWILO RUNE.
231
00:12:16,803 --> 00:12:19,671
THIS RUNE WAS ORIGINALLY
AS SYMBOL OF SUCCESS,
232
00:12:19,673 --> 00:12:21,606
OF HAPPINESS, OF PEACE.
233
00:12:21,608 --> 00:12:23,007
IT BECOMES TWISTED.
234
00:12:23,009 --> 00:12:26,544
IT BECOMES A SYMBOL FOR VICTORY,
235
00:12:26,546 --> 00:12:32,484
HENCE THE NAZI SALUTE,
"ZEIG HEIL" IS "HAIL VICTORY."
236
00:12:32,486 --> 00:12:36,387
HERE YOU SEE THE DOUBLE
S PATCH, DOUBLE SIG PATCH.
237
00:12:36,389 --> 00:12:37,756
HERE YOU SEE IT ACTUALLY AS IT
238
00:12:37,758 --> 00:12:43,027
WAS ORIGINALLY IN
THE ELDER FUTHARK RUNES.
239
00:12:43,029 --> 00:12:44,662
Dr. Selwood:
HIMMLER WANTED THE SS TO STAND
240
00:12:44,664 --> 00:12:46,731
FOR SOMETHING OUT
OF THE ORDINARY
241
00:12:46,733 --> 00:12:48,366
AND TO DO THAT, HE INFUSED IT
242
00:12:48,368 --> 00:12:51,770
WITH ALL THESE DIFFERENT
CURRENTS OF THE OCCULT.
243
00:12:51,772 --> 00:12:53,571
SO MOST OBVIOUSLY HE DID IT
VISUALLY.
244
00:12:53,573 --> 00:12:55,273
SO THINGS LIKE THE SS RUNE,
245
00:12:55,275 --> 00:12:57,675
THE TWO LETTERS S YOU SEE,
THE LIGHTNING BOLTS,
246
00:12:57,677 --> 00:13:00,178
THOSE ARE OLD GERMANIC RUNES,
IT'S CALLED THE SIG RUNE.
247
00:13:00,180 --> 00:13:02,480
THEY HAVE MEANING.
THEY CAN BE INTERPRETED.
248
00:13:02,482 --> 00:13:06,718
MANY OTHER RUNES WERE USED IN SS
UNIFORMS, IN SS BANNERS,
249
00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:08,686
ON THE DAGGERS THAT THEY HAD,
250
00:13:08,688 --> 00:13:11,189
ALL SORTS OF ARTICLES
OF SS PARAPHERNALIA
251
00:13:11,191 --> 00:13:13,958
WERE ENGRAVED AND EMBLAZONED
WITH THESE RUNES.
252
00:13:17,898 --> 00:13:20,698
IT WAS GUIDO LIST WHO INTRODUCED
ONE OF THE MOST WELL KNOWN,
253
00:13:20,700 --> 00:13:24,102
AND HAS BECOME OF THE MOST
HATED SYMBOLS IN THE WORLD,
254
00:13:24,104 --> 00:13:25,937
AND THAT WAS THE SWASTIKA.
255
00:13:25,939 --> 00:13:29,340
OF COURSE THAT WAS NOT
IT'S ORIGINAL GERMAN NAME.
256
00:13:29,342 --> 00:13:30,708
IT HAD SEVERAL NAMES.
257
00:13:30,710 --> 00:13:33,044
THE HAKENKRUIS,
THE HOOKED CROSS.
258
00:13:33,046 --> 00:13:36,781
THE FYLFOT,
THE MANY-FOOTED CROSS.
259
00:13:36,783 --> 00:13:39,217
NOW ONE OF THE GREAT FALLACIES
WHICH HAS OCCURRED
260
00:13:39,219 --> 00:13:41,319
SINCE THE SECOND WORLD WAR,
261
00:13:41,321 --> 00:13:44,189
IS THE NAZIS,
SPECIFICALLY HITLER AND HIMMLER,
262
00:13:44,191 --> 00:13:47,325
REVERSED THE ROTATION.
263
00:13:47,327 --> 00:13:48,660
THAT'S ACTUALLY NOT TRUE.
264
00:13:48,662 --> 00:13:51,196
AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS SENSA
FROM INDIA,
265
00:13:51,198 --> 00:13:53,698
IT IS IN FACT
GOING THE SAME DIRECTION.
266
00:13:53,700 --> 00:13:58,236
THE DOUBLE SIG, IS ACTUALLY
THE SAME AS THE SWASTIKA.
267
00:13:58,238 --> 00:14:01,539
IF YOU TAKE THE TWO SIG
AND INTERLOCK THEM,
268
00:14:01,541 --> 00:14:02,907
THEY ACTUALLY
BECOME THE SWASTIKA.
269
00:14:02,909 --> 00:14:05,009
THEY ORIGINALLY MEANT
THE SAME THING.
270
00:14:05,011 --> 00:14:07,178
BUT OF COURSE THE SWASTIKA
WAS NEVER ORIGINALLY
271
00:14:07,180 --> 00:14:08,546
A SYMBOL OF HATE.
272
00:14:08,548 --> 00:14:10,114
YOU STILL FIND IT
AROUND THE WORLD
273
00:14:10,116 --> 00:14:12,183
IN MANY CULTURES AND TRADITIONS.
274
00:14:12,185 --> 00:14:15,687
AND STILL YOU SEE IN PLACES
SUCH AS INDIA, TIBET,
275
00:14:15,689 --> 00:14:19,891
THE SWASTIKA IS STILL IN USE
AS A SACRED SYMBOL.
276
00:14:19,893 --> 00:14:21,326
IT REPRESENTS THE SUN.
277
00:14:21,328 --> 00:14:25,496
IT REPRESENTS GOOD LUCK,
GOOD FORTUNE.
278
00:14:25,498 --> 00:14:28,166
Walters:
YOU'VE GOT TO REMEMBER THAT
THE NAZIS WERE REALLY GOOD
279
00:14:28,168 --> 00:14:30,368
AT THE BRANDING BUSINESS,
IS WHAT WE CALL IT TODAY.
280
00:14:30,370 --> 00:14:34,105
I MEAN THERE IS NO BETTER BRAND
THAN THE SWASTIKA.
281
00:14:34,107 --> 00:14:36,241
I MEAN IT'S A VERY,
VERY POWERFUL ICON
282
00:14:36,243 --> 00:14:38,109
SET ON THE WHITE AND THE RED,
283
00:14:38,111 --> 00:14:41,579
YOU KNOW THESE ARE INCREDIBLY
CAPTIVATING COLORS, NORMALLY.
284
00:14:41,581 --> 00:14:44,115
AND THEN THE SYMBOL OF THE
SWASTIKA IS VERY POWERFUL
285
00:14:44,117 --> 00:14:46,084
AND EQUALLY THE SS RUNES,
286
00:14:46,086 --> 00:14:48,953
AND THEY WERE RUNES,
FROM NORSE CULTURE.
287
00:14:48,955 --> 00:14:52,557
SO OBVIOUSLY YOU EVEN GOT
THE UNIFORM OF THE KIND OF ELITE
288
00:14:52,559 --> 00:14:56,261
ARMED UNIT OF THE THIRD REICH
WERE DRESSED YOU KNOW,
289
00:14:56,263 --> 00:15:00,365
WITH THESE SYMBOLS, WHICH HAD
THEIR ROOTS IN MYTHOLOGY.
290
00:15:00,367 --> 00:15:03,835
Narrator:
ERIC KURLANDER IS AN ACADEMIC
AND AUTHOR WHO HAS SPEND DECADES
291
00:15:03,837 --> 00:15:06,604
ON COVERING THE NAZIS
OCCULT OBSESSION.
292
00:15:06,606 --> 00:15:08,940
CORE TO THE NAZIS
TWISTED IDEOLOGY,
293
00:15:08,942 --> 00:15:11,976
WAS A BELIEF CALLED IRMINISM,
A PSEUDO-RELIGION,
294
00:15:11,978 --> 00:15:13,912
WHICH SS COMMANDER HIMMLER
BELIEVED
295
00:15:13,914 --> 00:15:16,114
WAS WORSHIPPED
AT VARIOUS PAGAN SITES
296
00:15:16,116 --> 00:15:18,750
IN ANCIENT HISTORY,
ACROSS GERMANY.
297
00:15:18,752 --> 00:15:22,720
Kurlander:
SO ARMINISM OR IRMINISM AS
THE ARIOSOPHISTS CALLED IT,
298
00:15:22,722 --> 00:15:26,257
BELIEVE THAT THERE IS
AN ANCIENT GERMANIC CIVILIZATION
299
00:15:26,259 --> 00:15:28,126
THAT LIVED IN PRE-HISTORY,
300
00:15:28,128 --> 00:15:30,028
WHERE THERE WERE FROST GIANTS
AND DWARVES.
301
00:15:30,030 --> 00:15:32,697
AND POTENTIALLY THAT THIS
ARYAN CIVILIZATION
302
00:15:32,699 --> 00:15:35,500
HAD ORIGINATED FROM MEETING
WITH EXTRA-TERRESTRIALS,
303
00:15:35,502 --> 00:15:37,101
WHICH IS WHY IT WAS SO POWERFUL,
304
00:15:37,103 --> 00:15:39,203
AND HAD A THIRD EYE
AND COULD YOU KNOW,
305
00:15:39,205 --> 00:15:43,908
EXERCISE GREATER MENTAL ACUITY
THAN NORMAL RACES ON EARTH.
306
00:15:43,910 --> 00:15:47,078
AND THIS SUPERIOR CIVILIZATION
PRACTICED A KIND OF RELIGION,
307
00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,480
A CULTURE
THAT THEY THOUGHT LASTED
308
00:15:49,482 --> 00:15:51,816
UNTIL THE EARLY MEDIEVAL PERIOD.
309
00:15:51,818 --> 00:15:54,719
AND WAS PRACTICED HERE
AT THE EXTERNSTEINE.
310
00:15:54,721 --> 00:15:56,754
Narrator:
ALSO COMPARED TO STONEHENGE,
311
00:15:56,756 --> 00:16:00,725
THE EXTERNSTEINE IS A COLLECTION
OF GIANT SANDSTONE PILLARS,
312
00:16:00,727 --> 00:16:03,962
USED A PAGAN RELIGIOUS SITE
FOR MILLENNIA.
313
00:16:03,964 --> 00:16:06,898
Kurlander:
TO THE EXTERNSTEINE ARE A SITE
314
00:16:06,900 --> 00:16:10,301
WHERE HIMMLER'S VARIOUS
FANTASIES KIND OF COME TOGETHER.
315
00:16:10,303 --> 00:16:12,870
HIS RELIGIOUS BELIEFS ABOUT
A PRE-CHRISTIAN
316
00:16:12,872 --> 00:16:17,208
GERMANIC RELIGIOUS TRADITION,
HIS BORDER SCIENTIFIC BELIEFS
317
00:16:17,210 --> 00:16:20,278
THAT YOU COULD USE
ARCHEOLOGY AND ASTROLOGY
318
00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,080
TO RECREATE THE FOUNDATIONS
319
00:16:22,082 --> 00:16:24,282
OF THIS ANCIENT
GERMANIC CIVILIZATION.
320
00:16:24,284 --> 00:16:26,150
AND OF COURSE HIS OCCULT BELIEF,
321
00:16:26,152 --> 00:16:30,021
ALL OF THAT COMES TOGETHER
AT THE EXTERNSTEINE.
322
00:16:30,023 --> 00:16:32,724
Dr. Selwood:
HIMMLER WAS A NUTTER
AND LIKE ALL NUTTERS,
323
00:16:32,726 --> 00:16:35,026
HE WAS PREOCCUPIED
WITH PSEUDO-SCIENCE.
324
00:16:35,028 --> 00:16:37,028
SO HE CREATED, WITHIN THE SS,
325
00:16:37,030 --> 00:16:38,663
A DIVISION CALLED THE AHNENERBE,
326
00:16:38,665 --> 00:16:40,698
WHICH MEANS ANCESTRAL HERITAGE.
327
00:16:40,700 --> 00:16:43,301
AND HIS IDEA WAS THAT
THIS WOULD BE A THINK TANK
328
00:16:43,303 --> 00:16:44,769
THAT WOULD ROAM THE WORLD
329
00:16:44,771 --> 00:16:47,572
AND GATHER EVIDENCE
OF THESE ANCIENT CULTURES
330
00:16:47,574 --> 00:16:50,174
AND DEMONSTRATE THAT HIS RACIAL
THEORIES AND THEORIES
331
00:16:50,176 --> 00:16:53,144
ABOUT GERMANIC SUPER PEOPLE,
WERE ACTUALLY RIGHT.
332
00:16:53,146 --> 00:16:56,614
Janulis:
AND THEY EVEN GOT SCIENTISTS,
ARCHAEOLOGISTS, BIOLOGISTS,
333
00:16:56,616 --> 00:16:59,817
ET CETERA IN ON THESE TEAMS
GOING AROUND
334
00:16:59,819 --> 00:17:03,021
LOOKING FOR THE ORIGINS
OF TRUE ARYANS.
335
00:17:03,023 --> 00:17:04,722
AND THE ANCIENT GIANTS,
336
00:17:04,724 --> 00:17:06,691
THE NIFLHEIM
AND THESE SORTS OF THINGS
337
00:17:06,693 --> 00:17:09,127
AND MEASURING PEOPLE'S
HEADS OUT IN NEPAL.
338
00:17:09,129 --> 00:17:12,663
AND SO I CAN'T IMAGINE
RESPECTED SCIENTISTS
339
00:17:12,665 --> 00:17:15,199
SIGNING UP FOR ONE
OF THESE PROJECTS,
340
00:17:15,201 --> 00:17:18,503
UNLESS THEY WERE FORCED
TO DO SO POLITICALLY.
341
00:17:18,505 --> 00:17:20,772
Narrator: ACCORDING TO LEGEND,
THE IRMINISTS,
342
00:17:20,774 --> 00:17:23,141
LIKE THE MYTHICAL CIVILIZATION
OF ATLANTIS,
343
00:17:23,143 --> 00:17:25,777
HAD A FANTASTICALLY
ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY.
344
00:17:25,779 --> 00:17:28,346
AND HIMMLER BELIEVED THAT
IF HE COULD FIND EVIDENCE
345
00:17:28,348 --> 00:17:31,249
OF THIS ANCIENT TECHNOLOGY
AT THE EXTERNSTEINE,
346
00:17:31,251 --> 00:17:33,017
IT WOULD PROVE THAT
THE GERMAN PEOPLE
347
00:17:33,019 --> 00:17:35,186
WERE DESCENDANTS
OF A MASTER RACE
348
00:17:35,188 --> 00:17:38,556
AND THEREFORE,
THE TRUE RULERS OF THE EARTH.
349
00:17:38,558 --> 00:17:41,392
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE
ARCHAEOLOGISTS IN THE INSTITUTE
350
00:17:41,394 --> 00:17:44,028
FOR ANCESTRAL RESEARCH,
WERE LOOKING FOR,
351
00:17:44,030 --> 00:17:47,632
WAS EVIDENCE OF A SUPERIOR
PRE-CHRISTIAN CIVILIZATION,
352
00:17:47,634 --> 00:17:49,734
TENS OF THOUSANDS OF YEARS OLD.
353
00:17:49,736 --> 00:17:51,035
THEY WERE EXCAVATING,
354
00:17:51,037 --> 00:17:53,771
LOOKING FOR EVIDENCE
OF THIS SUPERIOR CIVILIZATION.
355
00:17:53,773 --> 00:17:57,375
WHAT THEY FOUND WERE NEOLITHIC
TOOLS AND OTHER EVIDENCE
356
00:17:57,377 --> 00:17:59,977
SHOWING THAT
THERE HAD BEEN SOME YOU KNOW,
357
00:17:59,979 --> 00:18:01,712
TRANSIENT HUMAN SETTLEMENTS HERE
358
00:18:01,714 --> 00:18:06,617
BUT NOTHING CO-NOTING
A GREAT GERMANIC CIVILIZATION.
359
00:18:06,619 --> 00:18:09,087
Narrator:
BUT HIMMLER WASN'T DETERRED
BY THIS LACK OF
360
00:18:09,089 --> 00:18:10,721
ARCHAEOLOGICAL EVIDENCE.
361
00:18:10,723 --> 00:18:13,925
MEANWHILE, WHAT WERE HITLER'S
BELIEFS DURING THIS TIME?
362
00:18:13,927 --> 00:18:16,160
LIKE HIMMLER,
WAS HE UNDER THE INFLUENCE
363
00:18:16,162 --> 00:18:18,096
OF BLACK MAGIC AND MYTHOLOGY?
364
00:18:19,933 --> 00:18:24,902
¶
365
00:18:24,904 --> 00:18:27,939
[ SHOUTING IN GERMAN ]
366
00:18:27,941 --> 00:18:31,309
Narrator:
NAZISM WAS MORE THAN JUST
A POLITICAL IDEOLOGY.
367
00:18:31,311 --> 00:18:34,045
IT WAS A PHILOSOPHY FULL OF
OCCULT IDEAS
368
00:18:34,047 --> 00:18:36,013
BASED ON PAGAN MYTHOLOGY.
369
00:18:36,015 --> 00:18:38,249
Gough:
THE NAZI OCCULT BELIEFS
WERE EXTREME.
370
00:18:38,251 --> 00:18:40,785
FOR A START THEY BELIEVED
THAT THEIR LINEAGE
371
00:18:40,787 --> 00:18:43,454
WENT BACK THOUSANDS OF YEARS.
372
00:18:43,456 --> 00:18:47,158
THEY BELIEVED THAT THEIR LIFE
WAS SEEDED ON EARTH
373
00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:51,095
FROM A METEORITE FROM SPACE,
NOT LIKE THE REST OF US.
374
00:18:51,097 --> 00:18:53,698
Dr. Bellinger:
THE OCCULT WAS CENTRALLY
IMPORTANT TO THE NAZIS.
375
00:18:53,700 --> 00:18:56,467
LIKE NOT JUST FOR WHAT PEOPLE
THOUGHT IT MIGHT
376
00:18:56,469 --> 00:18:58,169
EFFECT AS MAGIC,
377
00:18:58,171 --> 00:19:01,906
IT MEANT SO MUCH ON A FALSE BUT,
378
00:19:01,908 --> 00:19:05,676
DEEP, DEEPLY ROOTED
MYTHOLOGICAL BASIS,
379
00:19:05,678 --> 00:19:09,614
THAT LEGITIMIZED
THE ENTIRE PROJECT.
380
00:19:09,616 --> 00:19:12,150
Narrator:
HEINRICH HIMMLER WAS HITLER'S
RIGHT HAND MAN
381
00:19:12,152 --> 00:19:14,519
AND FOUNDER OF THE DREADED SS.
382
00:19:14,521 --> 00:19:16,754
HIMMLER FULLY BELIEVED
IN THE OCCULT
383
00:19:16,756 --> 00:19:19,056
BUT WHAT ABOUT
THE FUHRER HIMSELF?
384
00:19:19,058 --> 00:19:20,625
WHAT INFLUENCE, IF ANY,
385
00:19:20,627 --> 00:19:23,694
DID BLACK MAGIC
HAVE ON ADOLPH HITLER?
386
00:19:23,696 --> 00:19:25,530
Janulis:
HITLER HAD A VERY UNIQUE SKILL.
387
00:19:25,532 --> 00:19:29,033
HE HAD THE ABILITY TO CAPTURE
AN AUDIENCE,
388
00:19:29,035 --> 00:19:32,036
TO CAPTURE THEIR MINDS,
THEIR EYES, THEIR ATTENTION
389
00:19:32,038 --> 00:19:34,605
AND THEIR HEARTS
ALL AT THE SAME TIME.
390
00:19:34,607 --> 00:19:37,241
AND HE USED THAT
TO GREAT EFFECT.
391
00:19:37,243 --> 00:19:40,244
AND HE GOT BETTER AND BETTER
AT IT AS HE BECAME MORE
392
00:19:40,246 --> 00:19:43,581
AND MORE POWERFUL
WITHIN THE GERMAN GOVERNMENT.
393
00:19:43,583 --> 00:19:45,283
HITLER DIDN'T REALLY USE MAGIC,
394
00:19:45,285 --> 00:19:47,919
ALTHOUGH IS HOLD OVER PEOPLE
WAS ALMOST MAGICAL.
395
00:19:47,921 --> 00:19:49,820
AND I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT
THING TO BEAR IN MIND,
396
00:19:49,822 --> 00:19:54,392
THAT HITLER PRESENTED HIMSELF
AND WAS PRESENTED,
397
00:19:54,394 --> 00:19:56,294
AS A KIND OF MESSIANIC FIGURE.
398
00:19:56,296 --> 00:19:58,196
AND WHAT DO MESSIANIC FIGURES
HAVE TO HAVE?
399
00:19:58,198 --> 00:19:59,597
IT'S NOT JUST CHARISMA,
400
00:19:59,599 --> 00:20:03,634
BUT THEY ALSO HAVE TO HAVE
THIS SENSE OF OTHER-WORLDLINESS.
401
00:20:03,636 --> 00:20:05,536
Felix: SO WAS IT JUST CHARISMA?
402
00:20:05,538 --> 00:20:06,837
BUT IF IT WAS, SURELY THAT
403
00:20:06,839 --> 00:20:08,506
WOULD HAVE SHOWED MUCH EARLIER
IN HIS LIFE.
404
00:20:08,508 --> 00:20:10,041
YOU DON'T JUST LEARN THAT.
405
00:20:10,043 --> 00:20:11,809
YOU'VE GOT IT OR YOU HAVEN'T.
406
00:20:11,811 --> 00:20:14,745
SO IT MUST BE SOMETHING
SURROUNDED AS HE WAS,
407
00:20:14,747 --> 00:20:16,547
WITH ALL OF THIS OCCULT,
408
00:20:16,549 --> 00:20:20,818
WITH DOWSES AND TAROT CARDS
AND MEDIUMS AND THEN PERHAPS
409
00:20:20,820 --> 00:20:24,222
HE BECAME SOME FORM OF CONDUIT
FOR THE WHOLE THING.
410
00:20:24,224 --> 00:20:27,558
AND PERHAPS HITLER REALLY
WAS POSSESSED
411
00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:32,697
BY SOMETHING TO DO WITH SATAN
OR THE DEVIL
412
00:20:32,699 --> 00:20:34,966
OR SOME OTHER DEITY
OF SOME SORT.
413
00:20:34,968 --> 00:20:36,434
PERHAPS IT'S REAL.
414
00:20:36,436 --> 00:20:43,808
[ SHOUTING IN GERMAN ]
415
00:20:43,810 --> 00:20:46,577
Narrator:
SO WAS HITLER REALLY CHANNELING
DEMONIC FORCES
416
00:20:46,579 --> 00:20:48,813
DURING THE INFAMOUS
NAZI RALLIES?
417
00:20:48,815 --> 00:20:50,982
OR IS THERE ANOTHER EXPLANATION?
418
00:20:50,984 --> 00:20:54,518
NEIL TOBIN IS A CHICAGO
BORN PLAYWRIGHT AND PERFORMER.
419
00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:58,956
IN 2015 TOBIN WROTE A PLAY
ABOUT ARCH-NAZI OCCULTIST
420
00:20:58,958 --> 00:21:00,358
ERIC YON HENDERSON,
421
00:21:00,360 --> 00:21:04,629
THE MAN CREDITED WITH
TEACHING HITLER MASS HYPNOSIS.
422
00:21:04,631 --> 00:21:09,000
ERIC YON HENDERSON WAS THE MOST
POPULAR PSYCHIC ENTERTAINER
423
00:21:09,002 --> 00:21:11,035
IN GERMANY PRE WORLD WAR II.
424
00:21:11,037 --> 00:21:15,506
HE CONDUCTED PERFORMANCES
THAT INCORPORATED HYPNOTISM.
425
00:21:15,508 --> 00:21:18,909
HE WAS A TELEPATHIST...
HE READ MINDS.
426
00:21:18,911 --> 00:21:22,246
HE MADE PREDICTIONS.
427
00:21:22,248 --> 00:21:27,318
HE FILLED THE LARGEST
PERFORMANCE SPACES IN EUROPE.
428
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,787
Picknett: HE WAS VERY POPULAR
WITH THE NAZIS MAINLY
429
00:21:29,789 --> 00:21:31,622
BECAUSE IT IS SAID AT LEAST,
430
00:21:31,624 --> 00:21:35,893
THAT HE WAS HITLER'S TEACHER
IN ONE SENSE.
431
00:21:35,895 --> 00:21:37,395
HE TAUGHT HIM STAGE CRAFT.
432
00:21:37,397 --> 00:21:40,197
HE TAUGHT HIM HOW TO HOLD
AN AUDIENCE
433
00:21:40,199 --> 00:21:41,465
IN THE PALM OF YOUR HANDS.
434
00:21:41,467 --> 00:21:42,833
HOW TO LOOK THEM IN THE EYE.
435
00:21:42,835 --> 00:21:44,869
HOW TO MESMERIZE THEM.
436
00:21:44,871 --> 00:21:52,109
[ SHOUTING IN GERMAN ]
437
00:21:52,111 --> 00:21:54,211
WHEN WE LOOK
AT THE NEWSREEL FOOTAGE,
438
00:21:54,213 --> 00:21:57,348
OF HITLER AT ONE
OF THE GREAT RALLIES,
439
00:21:57,350 --> 00:21:59,183
YOU SEE HOW HE USES HIS BODY.
440
00:21:59,185 --> 00:22:01,319
YOU HEAR HOW HE,
EVEN IF YOU DON'T KNOW GERMAN,
441
00:22:01,321 --> 00:22:03,621
YOU HEAR HOW HE USES
HIS VOICE FOR EMPHASIS.
442
00:22:03,623 --> 00:22:05,756
YOU SEE THE BROAD GESTURES,
443
00:22:05,758 --> 00:22:11,929
THE SENSE OF DRAMA THAT CAN
CARRY THROUGH AN IMMENSE SPACE.
444
00:22:11,931 --> 00:22:16,434
AND ONE HAS TO THINK THAT THAT
DID NOT JUST HAPPEN BY ACCIDENT.
445
00:22:16,436 --> 00:22:20,037
[ SHOUTING IN GERMAN ]
446
00:22:20,039 --> 00:22:23,808
[ CHEERING ]
447
00:22:23,810 --> 00:22:25,976
Dr. Bellinger:
THE INTERESTING THING,
ERIC YON HENDERSON
448
00:22:25,978 --> 00:22:29,013
WAS NOT THE DANISH PERSON
HE CLAIMED TO BE.
449
00:22:29,015 --> 00:22:31,916
HE WAS IN FACT JEWISH
AND HE WAS PLAYING WITH FIRE.
450
00:22:31,918 --> 00:22:33,784
ONE WOULD HAVE THOUGHT
HE WOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER.
451
00:22:33,786 --> 00:22:36,253
Gough:
THE FACT THAT YON HENDERSON
WAS FOUND MURDERED
452
00:22:36,255 --> 00:22:39,223
WITH A BULLET
THROUGH THE BACK AND THE HEAD,
453
00:22:39,225 --> 00:22:41,692
IS PROBABLY DUE
TO SEVERAL THINGS.
454
00:22:41,694 --> 00:22:44,895
ONE, THE DISCOVERY
THAT HE WAS JEWISH.
455
00:22:44,897 --> 00:22:49,233
TWO, HE WAS SO WEALTHY
THAT PROMINENT PLAYERS
456
00:22:49,235 --> 00:22:52,636
IN THE NAZI PARTY,
OWED HIM A LOT OF MONEY.
457
00:22:52,638 --> 00:22:58,442
AND ALSO HE HAD PERHAPS BECOME
TOO INFLUENTIAL WITH HITLER.
458
00:22:58,444 --> 00:23:02,046
SO THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN
THIS ISSUE OF JEALOUSY.
459
00:23:02,048 --> 00:23:03,647
SO THERE WERE MANY MOTIVES
460
00:23:03,649 --> 00:23:06,717
WHY THE NAZIS WOULD WANT
TO HAVE HIM MURDERED.
461
00:23:08,788 --> 00:23:11,622
Narrator:
IN 1939, WAR BROKE OUT,
462
00:23:11,624 --> 00:23:14,091
BUT THE NAZIS WEREN'T
JUST USING BULLETS AND BOMBS
463
00:23:14,093 --> 00:23:15,459
AGAINST THE ALLIES.
464
00:23:15,461 --> 00:23:18,796
THEY ALSO ENLISTED THE POWER
OF DARK FORCES.
465
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:28,606
¶
466
00:23:28,608 --> 00:23:31,942
Narrator: IN 1939,
WAR FINALLY BROKE OUT
467
00:23:31,944 --> 00:23:34,011
AND THE NAZIS FORCES
OF DARKNESS,
468
00:23:34,013 --> 00:23:37,281
FUELED BY THE TWISTED
OCCULT IDEOLOGY OF ARIANISM,
469
00:23:37,283 --> 00:23:38,582
INVADED EUROPE.
470
00:23:38,584 --> 00:23:41,419
MISSILES WERE LAUNCHED,
AND BOMBS DROPPED.
471
00:23:41,421 --> 00:23:44,488
BUT IN HIDDEN BUNKERS,
A MUCH MORE SINISTER FORCE
472
00:23:44,490 --> 00:23:47,558
WAS BEING PUT TO WORK...
WITCHCRAFT.
473
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,428
Felix: THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
THE ALLIES AND THE GERMANS,
474
00:23:50,430 --> 00:23:54,031
THE NAZIS,
WAS THAT WE WERE USING RADAR
475
00:23:54,033 --> 00:23:56,467
TO FIND THEIR SUBMARINES
AND THEIR PLANES.
476
00:23:56,469 --> 00:23:58,936
THEY WERE USING DOWSING
PENDULUMS,
477
00:23:58,938 --> 00:24:02,540
THAT'S A PIECE OF STRING WITH
A BIT OF BRASS ON THE END OF IT,
478
00:24:02,542 --> 00:24:04,008
OR SOME QUARTZ CRYSTAL.
479
00:24:04,010 --> 00:24:09,246
THEY WERE DANGLING IT OVER A MAP
AND LOOKING FOR OUR SUBMARINES.
480
00:24:09,248 --> 00:24:13,317
Dr. Selwood:
HITLER EVEN BROUGHT THESE FADDY
BELIEFS INTO BATTLE PLANNING.
481
00:24:13,319 --> 00:24:15,653
INSTEAD OF USING INTELLIGENCE
AND SPOTTER PLANES
482
00:24:15,655 --> 00:24:16,987
AND ALL THE NORMAL THINGS,
483
00:24:16,989 --> 00:24:19,890
HITLER HAD TEAMS OF DOWSERS
AND BIZARRELY,
484
00:24:19,892 --> 00:24:22,092
IT ACTUALLY SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN
SUCCESSFUL ON MORE OCCASIONS
485
00:24:22,094 --> 00:24:23,828
THAN YOU WOULD IMAGINE.
486
00:24:23,830 --> 00:24:25,796
Gough:
THE NAZIS WERE SO IMPRESSED,
487
00:24:25,798 --> 00:24:29,967
IT INSPIRED THEM TO TAKE
THE OCCULT FAR MORE SERIOUS
488
00:24:29,969 --> 00:24:34,038
AND REALLY PUT A LOT OF MONEY
INTO THAT DIVISION OF THE SS.
489
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,540
SO THEY CREATED
THIS ORGANIZATION
490
00:24:36,542 --> 00:24:39,710
CALLED THE INSTITUTE
FOR OCCULT WARFARE.
491
00:24:39,712 --> 00:24:44,114
FULL OF MEDIUMS AND PSYCHICS
WHO ARE USING ALL THESE STRANGE
492
00:24:44,116 --> 00:24:48,486
OCCULT POWERS
TO FEND OFF THE WEST.
493
00:24:48,488 --> 00:24:50,754
McMahon:
IN THE LAST DESPERATE STAGES
OF THE WAR,
494
00:24:50,756 --> 00:24:55,693
THE NAZIS EVEN RELEASED
THOUSANDS OF ASTROLOGERS
495
00:24:55,695 --> 00:24:59,163
AND MAGICIANS AND DOWSERS
FROM CONCENTRATION CAMPS,
496
00:24:59,165 --> 00:25:01,932
TRYING TO HELP HITLER
WIN THE WAR.
497
00:25:01,934 --> 00:25:07,705
¶
498
00:25:07,707 --> 00:25:10,741
Narrator:
AS THE NAZI FORCES OF DARKNESS
RAVAGED EUROPE,
499
00:25:10,743 --> 00:25:12,910
HITLER HAD HIS SIGHTS
SET ON ENGLAND.
500
00:25:12,912 --> 00:25:15,646
THE LUFTWAFFE DROPPED
THOUSANDS OF BOMBS.
501
00:25:15,648 --> 00:25:19,550
CHILDREN WERE EVACUATED AND FEAR
AND CHAOS SHROUDED BRITAIN
502
00:25:19,552 --> 00:25:21,752
LIKE A GREAT DARK CLOUD.
503
00:25:21,754 --> 00:25:26,357
BUT BENEATH THE SURFACE, AN
OCCULT WAR WAS BEING WAGED TOO.
504
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:27,725
Gough: IT'S FASCINATING
WHEN YOU REALIZE
505
00:25:27,727 --> 00:25:31,262
THAT THERE WAS THIS SECRET
OCCULT WAR GOING ON
506
00:25:31,264 --> 00:25:33,464
AND IT DIDN'T TAKE LONG
FOR THE ALLIES
507
00:25:33,466 --> 00:25:39,336
TO REALIZE THAT THE GERMANS
WERE USING MAGIC, MAP DOWSING,
508
00:25:39,338 --> 00:25:42,506
AND WITH GREAT ACCURACY,
FINDING THEIR SHIPS.
509
00:25:42,508 --> 00:25:43,941
SO WHAT DID THEY DO?
510
00:25:43,943 --> 00:25:47,845
THEY HAD TO RETALIATE WITH SOME
OCCULT MAGIC OF THEIR OWN.
511
00:25:47,847 --> 00:25:50,614
SO THEY ARE ALLEGED
TO HAVE ENLISTED
512
00:25:50,616 --> 00:25:53,551
THE MOST FAMOUS OCCULTIST
IN BRITAIN,
513
00:25:53,553 --> 00:25:58,789
ALISTAIR CROWLEY WHO IS SAID
TO HAVE HELPED CHURCHILL
514
00:25:58,791 --> 00:26:02,593
BY GIVING HIM THE V
FOR VICTORY SYMBOL.
515
00:26:02,595 --> 00:26:05,462
AS FAR AS I KNOW,
BRITISH INTELLIGENCE
516
00:26:05,464 --> 00:26:09,767
DID RECRUIT ALISTAIR CROWLEY
TO HELP THEM IN THE SAME WAY
517
00:26:09,769 --> 00:26:12,036
AS THE GERMANS
WERE DOING AGAINST US.
518
00:26:12,038 --> 00:26:16,740
IT WAS ALISTAIR CROWLEY'S IDEA
TO COMBAT THE NORDIC RUNES
519
00:26:16,742 --> 00:26:18,008
THAT THE GERMANS WERE USING,
520
00:26:18,010 --> 00:26:20,711
THEY CAME UP WITH THE VICTORY
V SIGN TO SORT OF,
521
00:26:20,713 --> 00:26:23,414
FOR WANT OF A BETTER WORD,
POINT AT THE GERMANS,
522
00:26:23,416 --> 00:26:28,018
WHEN THEY WERE POINTING
THEIR RUNIC DEVICES AT US.
523
00:26:28,020 --> 00:26:29,954
Narrator: BUT IT WASN'T JUST
BRITISH INTELLIGENCE
524
00:26:29,956 --> 00:26:31,589
WHO BEGAN USING MAGIC.
525
00:26:31,591 --> 00:26:33,490
IN THE FORESTS
OF SOUTHERN ENGLAND,
526
00:26:33,492 --> 00:26:36,493
A COVEN OF WITCHES TOOK IT
UPON THEMSELVES TO GATHER
527
00:26:36,495 --> 00:26:39,930
AND PERFORM A RITUAL CALLED
THE CONE OF POWER,
528
00:26:39,932 --> 00:26:43,033
IN AN ATTEMPT TO STOP
THE IMMINENT NAZI INVASION.
529
00:26:43,035 --> 00:26:45,102
Picknett:
OPERATION... CONE OF POWER,
530
00:26:45,104 --> 00:26:49,473
WAS BASICALLY A BUNCH OF
MODERN WITCHES
531
00:26:49,475 --> 00:26:51,241
GETTING TOGETHER
IN THE NEW FOREST,
532
00:26:51,243 --> 00:26:53,877
UNDER THE GUIDANCE
OF GERALD GARDNER
533
00:26:53,879 --> 00:26:56,313
WHO MORE OR LESS CREATED
MODERN WICCA,
534
00:26:56,315 --> 00:27:02,987
TO DO A RITUAL TO PREVENT
THE NAZIS FROM INVADING BRITAIN.
535
00:27:02,989 --> 00:27:05,623
Narrator:
PHILIP HESELTON IS PART OF THAT
ANCIENT ORDER
536
00:27:05,625 --> 00:27:07,891
OF WITCHES OR WICCA.
537
00:27:07,893 --> 00:27:10,527
HE HAS SPENT DECADES RESEARCHING
WHAT HAPPENED
538
00:27:10,529 --> 00:27:13,063
ON THE NIGHT
OF THE CONE OF POWER.
539
00:27:13,065 --> 00:27:19,603
Heselton:
WE DON'T KNOW HOW OR WHERE,
THIS RITUAL TOOK PLACE.
540
00:27:19,605 --> 00:27:24,675
GERALD SAID "WE WERE TAKEN AT
NIGHT TO A PLACE IN THE FOREST."
541
00:27:24,677 --> 00:27:28,212
IT WOULD BE IN THE FOREST,
IT WOULDN'T BE ANY OPEN AIR.
542
00:27:28,214 --> 00:27:33,851
IT WOULD BE HOWEVER, A CLEARING,
SOMETHING LIKE THIS, I RECKON.
543
00:27:33,853 --> 00:27:38,489
SO THAT THEY HAD ENOUGH SPACE TO
DO WHAT WAS A REALLY BIG RITUAL.
544
00:27:42,695 --> 00:27:46,764
APPARENTLY, THEY HAD 17 PEOPLE
AND THEY HELD HANDS.
545
00:27:46,766 --> 00:27:50,868
RUSHING FORWARD
AND AT THE SAME TIME,
546
00:27:50,870 --> 00:27:56,106
GIVING THE WORDING
WHICH WAS SOMETHING LIKE,
547
00:27:56,108 --> 00:27:59,376
YOU CANNOT CROSS THE SEA,
NOT ABLE TO COME,
548
00:27:59,378 --> 00:28:02,246
NOT ABLE TO COME,
YOU CANNOT CROSS THE SEA.
549
00:28:02,248 --> 00:28:05,049
AND THEY REPEATED THAT.
550
00:28:05,051 --> 00:28:08,485
AND IT WASN'T JUST WORDS,
IT WAS THE MIND POWER
551
00:28:08,487 --> 00:28:13,791
WAS CONCENTRATED
AND WORKING TOGETHER
552
00:28:13,793 --> 00:28:16,560
AND THEY CREATED THIS,
553
00:28:16,562 --> 00:28:18,495
WHAT THEY CALLED
A CONE OF POWER.
554
00:28:18,497 --> 00:28:21,632
IT WASN'T PHYSICAL,
YOU COULDN'T SEE IT.
555
00:28:21,634 --> 00:28:24,501
BUT IT WAS THERE
ON THE PSYCHIC LEVEL
556
00:28:24,503 --> 00:28:26,904
AND WAS SENT OVER SPECIFICALLY,
557
00:28:26,906 --> 00:28:34,378
TO THE GERMAN HIGH COMMAND,
TO CHANGE THEIR THINKING.
558
00:28:34,380 --> 00:28:38,148
OF COURSE THE HUMAN MIND IS
ONE OF THE MOST FLEXIBLE THINGS.
559
00:28:38,150 --> 00:28:41,852
IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S
EASIER TO WORK MAGIC WITH.
560
00:28:44,890 --> 00:28:47,958
Narrator: JANET FARRAR IS A
WICCAN HIGH PRIESTESS
561
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,960
AND IS ONE OF THE WORLD'S
LEADING EXPERTS
562
00:28:49,962 --> 00:28:52,262
AND TEACHERS OF WITCHCRAFT.
563
00:28:52,264 --> 00:28:57,101
JANET HAS PERFORMED THE CONE
OF POWER RITUAL MULTIPLE TIMES.
564
00:28:57,103 --> 00:28:59,303
Farrar: RITUAL IS A DRAMA.
565
00:28:59,305 --> 00:29:03,006
NOW WITCHCRAFT IS NOT JUST
ABOUT RITUAL.
566
00:29:03,008 --> 00:29:05,876
IT'S ABOUT THE EQUIVALENT
I SUPPOSE,
567
00:29:05,878 --> 00:29:07,745
OF IN CHRISTIAN TERMS, PRAYER.
568
00:29:07,747 --> 00:29:09,580
THAT'S WHAT MAGIC IS.
569
00:29:09,582 --> 00:29:11,615
IT'S WHEN YOU TRANSPORT
YOUR MIND
570
00:29:11,617 --> 00:29:12,883
TO A PLACE WHERE YOU SAY
571
00:29:12,885 --> 00:29:16,854
"I KNOW THIS CAN BE MADE
TO HAPPEN."
572
00:29:16,856 --> 00:29:19,890
WHEN YOU PERFORM THE DANCE
OF THE CONE OF POWER,
573
00:29:19,892 --> 00:29:21,692
IT FEELS AS IF YOU'RE FLOATING,
574
00:29:21,694 --> 00:29:24,528
AS IF YOU'RE ABOUT SIX INCHES
OFF THE GROUND.
575
00:29:24,530 --> 00:29:28,732
AND THERE'S A SENSATION THAT,
576
00:29:28,734 --> 00:29:31,268
NO MATTER
HOW FAST YOU'RE DANCING,
577
00:29:31,270 --> 00:29:33,904
THAT YOU'RE
MOVING TWICE AS FAST.
578
00:29:33,906 --> 00:29:37,541
AND SOMETIMES YOU GET THE VERY
STRANGE EFFECT,
579
00:29:37,543 --> 00:29:39,576
TIME STANDS COMPLETELY STILL.
580
00:29:42,014 --> 00:29:44,715
AND IT'S AS IF THAT CONE
OF POWER STOPS TIME.
581
00:29:44,717 --> 00:29:47,251
YOU FEEL TOTALLY ELATED FROM IT,
582
00:29:47,253 --> 00:29:49,153
TOTALLY IN HARMONY
WITH THE UNIVERSE,
583
00:29:49,155 --> 00:29:51,622
TOTALLY ELATED INSIDE YOURSELF
AND OF COURSE
584
00:29:51,624 --> 00:29:55,626
THIS IS WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED
TO THE COVEN IN THE NEW FOREST.
585
00:29:55,628 --> 00:29:57,194
THEY WOULD HAVE ACHIEVED
WHAT THEY WANTED.
586
00:29:57,196 --> 00:29:58,662
THEY'D HAVE GONE HOME
THAT NIGHT,
587
00:29:58,664 --> 00:30:01,031
PROBABLY MADE SOME HOT CHOCOLATE
AND GONE TO BED.
588
00:30:01,033 --> 00:30:03,100
FORGOTTEN ALL ABOUT IT,
DON'T TALK ABOUT IT,
589
00:30:03,102 --> 00:30:06,069
DON'T DISCUSS IT
AMONGST OURSELVES, IT'S DONE.
590
00:30:06,071 --> 00:30:07,805
IT'S THE FULL STOP.
591
00:30:07,807 --> 00:30:11,175
IT'S THE TELEGRAM
THAT'S BEEN SENT.
592
00:30:11,177 --> 00:30:15,012
Narrator:
WITH THE ALLIES NOW FIGHTING
BACK USING MAGIC, IN GERMANY,
593
00:30:15,014 --> 00:30:17,281
HIMMLER HAD EVEN GRANDER PLANS.
594
00:30:17,283 --> 00:30:19,750
TO BUILD A GIANT NAZI FORTRESS,
595
00:30:19,752 --> 00:30:23,120
BASED ON THE MYTHOLOGICAL
KING ARTHUR'S CAMELOT.
596
00:30:25,224 --> 00:30:33,224
¶
597
00:30:34,733 --> 00:30:36,700
Narrator:
IN THE MIDST OF WORLD WAR II,
598
00:30:36,702 --> 00:30:39,036
A SECRET OCCULT WAR
WAS BEING WAGED
599
00:30:39,038 --> 00:30:42,573
BETWEEN THE RUTHLESS NAZIS
AND THE ALLIES.
600
00:30:42,575 --> 00:30:44,808
McMahon: BRITISH INTELLIGENCE
WAS AWARE OF HITLER
601
00:30:44,810 --> 00:30:47,778
AND HIMMLER'S RATHER
DARK OBSESSION WITH THE OCCULT.
602
00:30:47,780 --> 00:30:51,849
SO MUCH SO, THAT THEY TRIED TO
USE THE OCCULT AGAINST THE NAZIS
603
00:30:51,851 --> 00:30:55,485
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THEY DID
WAS CREATING A FAKE MAGAZINE,
604
00:30:55,487 --> 00:30:58,021
GERMAN OCCULT MAGAZINE
CALLED ZENIT
605
00:30:58,023 --> 00:31:00,290
WHICH WAS CIRCULATED
WITHIN GERMANY,
606
00:31:00,292 --> 00:31:02,593
WITH DARK
ASTROLOGICAL PREDICTIONS
607
00:31:02,595 --> 00:31:04,428
AGAINST HITLER AND HIMMLER.
608
00:31:04,430 --> 00:31:08,265
AND SUGGESTIONS FRAMED
IN AN ASTROLOGICAL KIND OF WAY,
609
00:31:08,267 --> 00:31:12,135
THAT GERMANY WAS BOUND
TO LOSE THE WAR.
610
00:31:12,137 --> 00:31:16,073
Narrator:
WITH THE ALLIES NOW ATTEMPTING
TO DISPEL THE NAZIS USING MAGIC,
611
00:31:16,075 --> 00:31:18,675
HEINRICH HIMMLER,
HITLER'S RIGHT HAND MAN,
612
00:31:18,677 --> 00:31:21,545
WAS STEPPING THINGS UP
BACK IN GERMANY.
613
00:31:21,547 --> 00:31:24,448
ERIC KURLANDER IS AN ACADEMIC
AND HISTORIAN,
614
00:31:24,450 --> 00:31:27,284
WHO HAS SPENT YEARS
RESEARCHING NAZI OCCULTISM
615
00:31:27,286 --> 00:31:30,520
AND HE BELIEVES THAT
WEWELSBURG CASTLE IS THE KEY
616
00:31:30,522 --> 00:31:33,757
TO UNDERSTANDING HIMMLER'S
BIZARRE CHIVALRIC BELIEFS
617
00:31:33,759 --> 00:31:36,560
CONNECTED TO THE MYTHOLOGICAL
KING ARTHUR.
618
00:31:36,562 --> 00:31:38,829
Kurlander:
SO, WE'RE ON OUR WAY TO A CASTLE
619
00:31:38,831 --> 00:31:41,031
KNOWN AS THE WEWELSBURG
AND HIMMLER,
620
00:31:41,033 --> 00:31:44,001
WHEN HE SAW THE CASTLE
FOR THE FIRST TIME,
621
00:31:44,003 --> 00:31:46,603
AND HE CONSULTED
WITH OTHER SS LEADERS
622
00:31:46,605 --> 00:31:50,073
ABOUT WHETHER THIS WOULD BE
THE RIGHT PLACE TO CREATE
623
00:31:50,075 --> 00:31:51,808
AN ORDER CASTLE FOR THE SS,
624
00:31:51,810 --> 00:31:56,780
A PLACE FOR SS EDUCATION,
SS INDOCTRINATION
625
00:31:56,782 --> 00:32:01,385
AND EVENTUALLY ALMOST A KIND
OF RELIGIOUS CENTER FOR THE SS.
626
00:32:01,387 --> 00:32:04,154
Dr. Selwood:
THE ULTIMATE STATEMENT
OF HIMMLER'S OCCULT,
627
00:32:04,156 --> 00:32:07,925
CHIVALRIC BELIEFS,
WAS WEWELSBURG CASTLE.
628
00:32:07,927 --> 00:32:09,593
HE PURCHASED THIS
AND WANTED TO TURN IT
629
00:32:09,595 --> 00:32:11,995
INTO THE CULT CENTER OF THE SS.
630
00:32:11,997 --> 00:32:14,298
THERE WAS A ROOM IN THE BASEMENT
WITH PLACES FOR
631
00:32:14,300 --> 00:32:17,234
THE 12 KNIGHTS OF THE SS WHO ALL
HAD DEATH'S HEAD RINGS.
632
00:32:17,236 --> 00:32:20,470
THERE WERE ROOMS ABOVE
WITH SOLAR SUNS ON THE FLOOR,
633
00:32:20,472 --> 00:32:24,574
BLACK SUNS FOR OCCULT CEREMONIES
AND SS WEDDINGS.
634
00:32:24,576 --> 00:32:28,745
IT WAS TO BE THE TIP OF A SPEAR,
THE TOP OF A COSMIC SPIRIT
635
00:32:28,747 --> 00:32:32,883
THAT WOULD BE THE SPIRITUAL
CENTER OF THE SS CULT.
636
00:32:32,885 --> 00:32:36,687
WEWELSBURG WAS THE HEART
OF HIMMLER'S VISION OF THE SS.
637
00:32:36,689 --> 00:32:41,892
¶
638
00:32:41,894 --> 00:32:44,461
Narrator: KIRSTEN JOHN-STUCKE
IS THE MUSEUM CURATOR
639
00:32:44,463 --> 00:32:48,065
AT WEWELSBURG CASTLE,
AN EXPERT ON IT'S DARK HISTORY.
640
00:33:32,211 --> 00:33:34,611
Kurlander: RIGHT.
641
00:33:34,613 --> 00:33:36,880
HIMMLER WANTED HIS CASTLE
AT WEWELSBURG
642
00:33:36,882 --> 00:33:39,716
TO BE A KIND OF NAZI CAMELOT
643
00:33:39,718 --> 00:33:41,985
AND THAT WAS HUGELY SIGNIFICANT
FOR HIM
644
00:33:41,987 --> 00:33:45,422
BECAUSE HE REVERED
THE ARTHURIAN KNIGHTS
645
00:33:45,424 --> 00:33:49,125
AND ALSO THE GERMAN
LEGENDARY KNIGHT, PARCIVAL,
646
00:33:49,127 --> 00:33:52,462
AS PEOPLE WHO HAD BEEN ON
THE QUEST FOR THE HOLY GRAIL.
647
00:33:52,464 --> 00:33:55,232
AND HE WAS OBSESSED WITH FINDING
THE HOLY GRAIL AS WELL BECAUSE,
648
00:33:55,234 --> 00:33:59,302
HE THOUGHT THAT THE GRAIL,
IT WASN'T ABOUT JESUS SO MUCH,
649
00:33:59,304 --> 00:34:02,539
AS FINDING A KEY
TO THE UNDERLYING TRUTH
650
00:34:02,541 --> 00:34:04,508
ABOUT THE ARYAN RACE.
651
00:34:04,510 --> 00:34:09,679
HIMMLER WAS FASCINATED
BY FAIRY TALES OF KING ARTHUR,
652
00:34:09,681 --> 00:34:11,314
THE HOLY GRAIL.
653
00:34:11,316 --> 00:34:16,453
HE WAS ALSO INTO KNIGHTS
TEMPLARS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
654
00:34:16,455 --> 00:34:18,588
HE WAS FASCINATED
BY THE NUMBER 12
655
00:34:18,590 --> 00:34:22,559
AND HE HAD 12 SS OFFICERS
WHO USED TO,
656
00:34:22,561 --> 00:34:25,195
I SUPPOSE FOR WANT OF
A BETTER WORD, ATTEND,
657
00:34:25,197 --> 00:34:26,863
STAND ROUND THE TABLE,
658
00:34:26,865 --> 00:34:30,600
REPRESENTING THE 12 KNIGHTS
OF KING ARTHUR.
659
00:34:33,439 --> 00:34:35,405
Narrator: IN THE NORTH TOWER
OF THE CASTLE,
660
00:34:35,407 --> 00:34:37,874
IS A VERY STRANGE ROOM INDEED.
661
00:34:37,876 --> 00:34:40,143
ORIGINALLY
A CHRISTIAN PRAYER SPACE,
662
00:34:40,145 --> 00:34:43,213
HIMMLER HAD IT REDESIGNED
WITH 12 PILLARS
663
00:34:43,215 --> 00:34:47,918
REPRESENTING THE 12 KNIGHTS
AND MYSTERIOUS BLACK SUN SYMBOL.
664
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:49,920
Kurlander:
BUT IF WE LOOK AT THE PLANS
FOR THIS ROOM,
665
00:34:49,922 --> 00:34:52,089
THEY TOOK A SACRED SPACE
666
00:34:52,091 --> 00:34:54,624
FROM THE CHRISTIAN TRADITION
OF THIS BUILDING
667
00:34:54,626 --> 00:34:57,727
AND THEY MAPPED ONTO IT
A MORE PAGAN RELIGIOUS,
668
00:34:57,729 --> 00:35:01,331
GERMANIC PRE-CHRISTIAN
SYMBOLOGY.
669
00:35:01,333 --> 00:35:05,001
AND THAT'S CHARACTERIZED BEST,
BY THIS SUN WHEEL.
670
00:35:05,003 --> 00:35:10,140
ZONE AND ROD WITH THE 12
DIFFERENT SIG RUNES.
671
00:35:10,142 --> 00:35:11,608
Walters:
THE POINT ABOUT WEWELSBURG,
672
00:35:11,610 --> 00:35:15,378
IT'S HIMMLER'S EFFORT TO TRY
AND CREATE A CAMELOT.
673
00:35:15,380 --> 00:35:18,648
YOU KNOW, IF HIMMLER IS ARTHUR,
WEWELSBURG IS CAMELOT.
674
00:35:18,650 --> 00:35:21,151
THIS IS WHERE HIS HIGH ORDER
OF KNIGHTS,
675
00:35:21,153 --> 00:35:25,122
THE SS, WILL HAVE AS
THEIR QUAZI-SPIRITUAL HOME.
676
00:35:25,124 --> 00:35:29,326
AND IT'S FROM THERE THAT EVERY
SS MAN'S RING, WHEN HE'S KILLED,
677
00:35:29,328 --> 00:35:32,062
WILL BE SENT BACK
TO BE HELD IN ETERNITY.
678
00:35:32,064 --> 00:35:38,468
THESE ARE KIND OF RELIGIOUS,
CULTIST CONCEPTS
679
00:35:38,470 --> 00:35:41,304
AND WEWELSBURG
WAS THE PERFECT PLACE FOR THAT.
680
00:35:41,306 --> 00:35:45,675
Gough:
WEWELSBURG IS A CREEPY PLACE
TODAY, IT REALLY IS.
681
00:35:45,677 --> 00:35:47,244
YOU WALK INTO THE NORTH TOWER
682
00:35:47,246 --> 00:35:52,883
AND YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE WALKING
INTO AN EVIL, RITUAL CENTER
683
00:35:52,885 --> 00:35:56,953
WHERE GOSH ONLY KNOWS
WHAT RITUALS WERE PERFORMED,
684
00:35:56,955 --> 00:35:59,422
BUT YOU HAVE SWASTIKAS
EVERYWHERE.
685
00:35:59,424 --> 00:36:01,625
YOU HAVE EAGLES,
YOU HAVE A BLACK SUN,
686
00:36:01,627 --> 00:36:04,661
YOU HAVE FIRE MARKS
ON THE WALLS.
687
00:36:04,663 --> 00:36:08,598
IT REALLY FEELS LIKE SOMETHING
BAD HAD HAPPENED HERE
688
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,568
AND IT'S IMBUED IT
WITH THAT SORT OF ENERGY.
689
00:36:11,570 --> 00:36:18,742
¶
690
00:36:18,744 --> 00:36:21,244
Kurlander:
SO IF WE THINK ABOUT HIMMLER'S
PERSONAL JOURNEY,
691
00:36:21,246 --> 00:36:24,948
WE HAVE EVERYTHING
THAT HIMMLER ASPIRED TO,
692
00:36:24,950 --> 00:36:27,184
COMING TOGETHER IN THIS SITE.
693
00:36:27,186 --> 00:36:30,954
THE CENTER OF HIS ENTIRE EMPIRE,
WHERE HE HOPED AFTER THE WAR,
694
00:36:30,956 --> 00:36:33,356
TO BECOME KIND OF THE SECOND
IN COMMAND,
695
00:36:33,358 --> 00:36:36,560
THE SECOND MOST IMPORTANT
LEADER OF THIS THIRD REICH,
696
00:36:36,562 --> 00:36:39,729
NEXT TO HITLER,
HIS RIGHT HAND MAN.
697
00:36:39,731 --> 00:36:44,167
SO IT'S FITTING THAT WE CONCLUDE
OUR JOURNEY AT THE WEWELSBURG,
698
00:36:44,169 --> 00:36:46,136
BECAUSE THE WEWELSBURG
BRINGS TOGETHER
699
00:36:46,138 --> 00:36:47,804
ALL THREE OF THE STRAINS
THAT KIND OF
700
00:36:47,806 --> 00:36:50,240
MADE UP HIMMLER'S
SUPERNATURAL IMAGINARY.
701
00:36:52,411 --> 00:36:54,911
Narrator: WITH THE NAZIS
NOW MERCILESSLY BOMBARDING
702
00:36:54,913 --> 00:36:57,380
THE ALLIES
WITH BULLETS AND SORCERY,
703
00:36:57,382 --> 00:37:01,318
HITLER WAS ABOUT TO LET HIS
BELIEF IN THE OCCULT GO TOO FAR.
704
00:37:03,522 --> 00:37:09,025
¶
705
00:37:09,027 --> 00:37:14,598
¶
706
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,968
Narrator:
THE NAZIS' IDEOLOGY OF RACIAL
DISCRIMINATION AND HATE
707
00:37:17,970 --> 00:37:21,972
WAS BUILT ON TWISTED
PAGAN MYTHOLOGY AND BLACK MAGIC.
708
00:37:21,974 --> 00:37:26,643
Dr. Selwood:
ON ONE LEVEL, ALL THIS NAZI
OCCULT ACTIVITY IS DEEPLY SILLY
709
00:37:26,645 --> 00:37:27,877
AND A GREAT DISTRACTION,
710
00:37:27,879 --> 00:37:30,113
BUT ON ANOTHER ACTUALLY,
IT'S DEATHLY SERIOUS,
711
00:37:30,115 --> 00:37:33,083
BECAUSE THIS SENSE
OF SUPERIORITY,
712
00:37:33,085 --> 00:37:35,385
THIS SENSE OF BEING DESCENDED
FROM A GREATER RACE,
713
00:37:35,387 --> 00:37:36,686
A DIFFERENT RACE, A RACE APART,
714
00:37:36,688 --> 00:37:38,455
THEY THOUGHT THEY CAME
FROM DIVINE SPERM,
715
00:37:38,457 --> 00:37:40,724
NOT FROM THE APES
LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.
716
00:37:40,726 --> 00:37:44,261
THIS ACTUALLY CREATED A MIND SET
THAT WAS CAPABLE OF THE HORRORS
717
00:37:44,263 --> 00:37:46,563
OF THE SECOND WORLD WAR
AND ULTIMATELY,
718
00:37:46,565 --> 00:37:49,866
THEIR OWN DEFEAT BY TAKING ON
FAR MORE THAN THEY COULD MANAGE.
719
00:37:49,868 --> 00:37:54,938
¶
720
00:37:54,940 --> 00:37:59,276
Narrator:
AND HITLER'S FAITH IN THE OCCULT
WAS ABOUT TO SEAL HIS FATE.
721
00:37:59,278 --> 00:38:02,312
McMahon: HIMMLER'S OBSESSION
WITH THE OCCULT
722
00:38:02,314 --> 00:38:04,481
HAD AN APPALLING CONSEQUENCE
723
00:38:04,483 --> 00:38:06,149
WHEN IT CAME TO THE BATTLE
OF STALINGRAD,
724
00:38:06,151 --> 00:38:09,853
BECAUSE APPARENTLY,
HE TOLD HITLER THAT IT WOULD BE
725
00:38:09,855 --> 00:38:15,392
OKAY HAVING THE GERMAN SOLDIERS
MARCHING INTO THE RUSSIAN WINTER
726
00:38:15,394 --> 00:38:19,796
BECAUSE ARYANS COULD WITHSTAND
COLD BETTER THAN NON-ARYANS.
727
00:38:19,798 --> 00:38:22,499
WELL THAT PROVED TO BE
ENTIRELY FALSE.
728
00:38:24,436 --> 00:38:26,703
Janulis:
SO DESPITE BEING FANTASTIC
STRATEGISTS,
729
00:38:26,705 --> 00:38:30,473
ENGINEERS, MILITARY ORGANIZERS,
730
00:38:30,475 --> 00:38:34,377
THEY STILL HAD SOME REALLY
INTERESTING WAYS
731
00:38:34,379 --> 00:38:35,879
OF APPROACHING DECISION MAKING.
732
00:38:35,881 --> 00:38:38,982
AND ONE OF THEM WAS THAT
THEY WERE USING OCCULT
733
00:38:38,984 --> 00:38:40,617
SORT OF PROCESSES
734
00:38:40,619 --> 00:38:45,121
AND THEY BELIEVED
THAT THEY COULD INVADE RUSSIA
735
00:38:45,123 --> 00:38:47,390
AND SUCCEED
WHERE NAPOLEON FAILED,
736
00:38:47,392 --> 00:38:51,861
BECAUSE THEIR ANCESTRY DATED
BACK TO THE HYPERBOREAN CULTURE,
737
00:38:51,863 --> 00:38:54,631
THE NORTHERN CLIMATE,
FIERCE PEOPLE.
738
00:38:54,633 --> 00:38:57,367
AND THEY THOUGHT THAT EVEN
IF THEY ENDED UP
739
00:38:57,369 --> 00:39:00,103
STUCK IN RUSSIAN WINTER,
THEY WERE TOUGH ENOUGH.
740
00:39:00,105 --> 00:39:02,472
THEY HAD THE GENETIC BACKGROUND.
741
00:39:02,474 --> 00:39:05,942
THEY COULD DEAL WITH IT.
742
00:39:05,944 --> 00:39:09,512
IF THE NAZIS HAD STOPPED ALL
THIS NONSENSE WITH ASTRONOMY,
743
00:39:09,514 --> 00:39:12,649
ASTROLOGERS,
DOWSING, TAROT CARDS,
744
00:39:12,651 --> 00:39:13,883
IF THEY'D STOPPED ALL THAT
745
00:39:13,885 --> 00:39:15,919
AND GOT ON
WITH THE WAR PROPERLY,
746
00:39:15,921 --> 00:39:17,754
I THINK THEY'D PROBABLY
HAVE BEATEN US.
747
00:39:17,756 --> 00:39:23,660
¶
748
00:39:23,662 --> 00:39:29,632
¶
749
00:39:29,634 --> 00:39:32,802
Narrator: IN 1945,
HITLER COMMITTED SUICIDE
750
00:39:32,804 --> 00:39:34,838
AND NAZI GERMANY SURRENDERED.
751
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,207
MILLIONS HAD BEEN KILLED
AND WORLD WAR TWO
752
00:39:37,209 --> 00:39:39,743
WOULD CAST A DARK SHADOW FOREVER
753
00:39:39,745 --> 00:39:42,212
BUT WHAT WENT WRONG
FOR THE NAZIS?
754
00:39:42,214 --> 00:39:44,748
HOW DID THEY GET SO CLOSE
TO WORLD DOMINATION
755
00:39:44,750 --> 00:39:47,617
ONLY TO FALL SO SPECTACULARLY?
756
00:39:47,619 --> 00:39:49,686
Picknett:
CERTAINLY NOT EVERY LAST NAZI
757
00:39:49,688 --> 00:39:51,521
WAS INTO WHAT WE WOULD CALL,
THE OCCULT.
758
00:39:51,523 --> 00:39:53,923
IN FACT VERY,
VERY FEW OF THEM EVER WERE.
759
00:39:53,925 --> 00:39:59,295
AND EVEN HEINRICH HIMMLER WHO
WAS THE GREAT NAZI "OCCULTIST"
760
00:39:59,297 --> 00:40:00,830
WAS MORE REALLY OF A,
761
00:40:00,832 --> 00:40:02,732
WHAT WE WOULD THINK OF,
AS A NEW AGER.
762
00:40:02,734 --> 00:40:06,002
MORE MYSTICALLY INCLINED
THAN, YOU KNOW,
763
00:40:06,004 --> 00:40:08,004
CASTING DARK SPELLS,
ALTHOUGH OF COURSE,
764
00:40:08,006 --> 00:40:10,006
HE WAS A NAZI,
HE DIDN'T HAVE TO.
765
00:40:10,008 --> 00:40:12,776
Dr. Selwood:
THEY WERE DESPERATELY
DARK SIDES TO THIS
766
00:40:12,778 --> 00:40:14,811
OCCULT OBSESSION AS WELL.
767
00:40:14,813 --> 00:40:17,113
THE PLANNING AND EXECUTION
OF THE FINAL SOLUTION
768
00:40:17,115 --> 00:40:20,116
WAS LEFT TO THE SS
AND THERE'S NO DOUBT
769
00:40:20,118 --> 00:40:24,421
THAT THIS WAS ONE OF THE MOST
HORRIFIC ACTS IN MODERN HISTORY,
770
00:40:24,423 --> 00:40:26,856
WAS CARRIED OUT BY PEOPLE
WHO BELIEVED
771
00:40:26,858 --> 00:40:28,858
THAT THEY WERE
SUPERIOR TO OTHERS.
772
00:40:28,860 --> 00:40:31,995
AND THOSE OCCULT BELIEFS HAD
A STRONG COMPONENT
773
00:40:31,997 --> 00:40:34,431
IN CREATING
THAT VISION OF THE SS
774
00:40:34,433 --> 00:40:38,168
AS PEOPLE WHO WERE CAPABLE OF,
AND ENTITLED TO DO THIS.
775
00:40:39,571 --> 00:40:41,037
Walters: THE NAZI OBSESSION
WITH THE OCCULT
776
00:40:41,039 --> 00:40:44,941
IS ONE OF THE REASONS
ULTIMATELY WHY PROJECT HITLER,
777
00:40:44,943 --> 00:40:46,910
OR PROJECT THIRD REICH,
IF YOU LIKE,
778
00:40:46,912 --> 00:40:49,379
WAS GOING TO BE DOOMED. WHY?
779
00:40:49,381 --> 00:40:53,450
BECAUSE THEY KIND OF SAW
THIS IDEA OF A STORY
780
00:40:53,452 --> 00:40:55,218
BEFORE IT EVEN TOOK PLACE.
781
00:40:55,220 --> 00:40:57,120
SO THEY HAD THIS IDEA THAT
THERE'S A NARRATIVE
782
00:40:57,122 --> 00:40:58,988
THAT WE'RE GOING TO LAST
FOR A THOUSAND YEARS
783
00:40:58,990 --> 00:41:00,990
AND WE'RE GOING TO BUILD
THESE ENORMOUS BUILDINGS
784
00:41:00,992 --> 00:41:02,792
AND LEAVE BEHIND
ALL THESE RUNES,
785
00:41:02,794 --> 00:41:05,495
AND THIS TEMPLE
CALLED WEWELSBURG, EFFECTIVELY.
786
00:41:05,497 --> 00:41:06,796
THEREFORE, YOU KNOW,
WE ARE GOING TO BE
787
00:41:06,798 --> 00:41:11,000
THIS NEW KIND OF CULTURE
AND CIVILIZATION
788
00:41:11,002 --> 00:41:13,436
THAT HAS IT'S OWN RELIGION
AND MYSTICISM.
789
00:41:13,438 --> 00:41:15,038
SO WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS YOU'RE
CREATING A NARRATIVE
790
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,273
FOR YOURSELF THAT'S GOING TO
GO ON FOR A THOUSAND YEARS.
791
00:41:17,275 --> 00:41:18,641
AND WHAT DOES THAT GIVE YOU?
792
00:41:18,643 --> 00:41:21,711
THAT GIVES YOU AN ENORMOUS SENSE
OF ARROGANCE AND HUBRIS.
793
00:41:21,713 --> 00:41:23,146
IT MAKES YOU THINK
THAT GENUINELY YOU
794
00:41:23,148 --> 00:41:25,982
ARE GOING TO LAST FOR THAT LONG
AND ACTUALLY INSTEAD,
795
00:41:25,984 --> 00:41:27,650
IT DOESN'T
REALLY WORK OUT LIKE THAT.
796
00:41:27,652 --> 00:41:30,253
IT GOES FROM 1933 TO 1945,
797
00:41:30,255 --> 00:41:32,255
YOU KNOW,
AND IT ENDS WITH A BIG BANG.
798
00:41:32,257 --> 00:41:37,393
¶
799
00:41:37,395 --> 00:41:38,962
Farrar: MAGIC IS NEITHER
BLACK NOR WHITE.
800
00:41:38,964 --> 00:41:40,663
IT'S LIKE ELECTRICITY.
801
00:41:40,665 --> 00:41:44,501
YOU CAN PLUG IN SOMETHING
SO USEFUL OR AN ELECTRIC CHAIR.
802
00:41:44,503 --> 00:41:47,770
THE ENERGY OF THE UNIVERSE
IS NEUTRAL.
803
00:41:47,772 --> 00:41:50,840
PEOPLE WHO MISUSE IT,
SUCH AS THE NAZIS,
804
00:41:50,842 --> 00:41:54,944
AND, YES, THAT'S BLACK MAGIC,
ENDED UP DESTROYING THEMSELVES.
805
00:41:54,946 --> 00:41:58,281
FROM THE MOMENT THEY PUT
THE FINGER IN THE SOCKET,
806
00:41:58,283 --> 00:42:01,684
IT WAS THE ELECTRIC CHAIR,
ALL THE WAY DOWN THE LINE.
807
00:42:01,708 --> 00:42:04,708
Subtitles Diego Moraes(oakislandtk)
www.opensubtitles.org
66785
Can't find what you're looking for?
Get subtitles in any language from opensubtitles.com, and translate them here.