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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,103 --> 00:00:05,004 Narrator: THE NAZIS AND THEIR RUTHLESS PURSUIT OF WORLD DOMINATION 2 00:00:05,006 --> 00:00:06,538 IS THE STUFF OF LEGEND, 3 00:00:06,540 --> 00:00:08,774 BUT IS THERE ANY TRUTH TO THE IDEA 4 00:00:08,776 --> 00:00:10,809 THAT HITLER WAS USING BLACK MAGIC 5 00:00:10,811 --> 00:00:14,213 AND WITCHCRAFT IN HIS QUESTS TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD? 6 00:00:14,215 --> 00:00:17,683 FOR THE NAZIS, THE OCCULT WAS LIKE OXYGEN. 7 00:00:17,685 --> 00:00:20,953 IT WAS THE BACKBONE OF THEIR IDEOLOGY. 8 00:00:20,955 --> 00:00:23,822 THEY WERE TRYING TO USE PSEUDO-SCIENCE OF THE TIME 9 00:00:23,824 --> 00:00:27,359 TO JUSTIFY WHY THE ARYAN RACE WAS SUPERIOR. 10 00:00:27,361 --> 00:00:30,262 Picknett: THEY BASICALLY TURNED NORMAL, CIVILIZED 11 00:00:30,264 --> 00:00:31,897 HUMAN BEINGS INTO MONSTERS, 12 00:00:31,899 --> 00:00:35,567 SO THAT HAS TO BE A SINISTER OCCULT RITUAL. 13 00:00:35,569 --> 00:00:39,338 Farrar: IF MAGIC IS EVER USED TO DESTROY SOMETHING IT IS USED 14 00:00:39,340 --> 00:00:40,672 TO DESTROY EVIL, 15 00:00:40,674 --> 00:00:44,276 SUCH AS STOPPING THE NAZIS FROM INVADING BRITAIN. 16 00:00:44,278 --> 00:00:47,813 Felix: IF THE NAZIS HAD STOPPED ALL THIS NONSENSE WITH ASTRONOMY, 17 00:00:47,815 --> 00:00:50,983 ASTROLOGERS, DOWSING, TAROT CARDS, 18 00:00:50,985 --> 00:00:52,518 IF THEY'D STOPPED ALL THAT AND GOT ON 19 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:54,119 WITH THE WAR PROPERLY, 20 00:00:54,121 --> 00:00:56,021 I THINK THEY'D PROBABLY HAVE BEATEN US. 21 00:00:56,023 --> 00:01:02,094 ¶ 22 00:01:02,096 --> 00:01:08,167 ¶ 23 00:01:08,169 --> 00:01:14,206 ¶ 24 00:01:14,208 --> 00:01:17,209 FORBIDDEN HISTORY - SEASON 6 EP - 7 - Hitler's Occult Conspiracy 25 00:01:17,211 --> 00:01:20,245 Subtitles Diego Moraes 26 00:01:23,751 --> 00:01:27,619 Narrator: IN THE YEARS LEADING UP TO NAZI GERMANY'S DECLARATION OF WAR, 27 00:01:27,621 --> 00:01:30,122 A BIZARRE OBSESSION BEGAN TO TAKE HOLD 28 00:01:30,124 --> 00:01:32,458 WITHIN THE NEWLY-FORMED POLITICAL PARTY. 29 00:01:32,460 --> 00:01:36,495 A STRANGE TWISTED MYTHOLOGY BASED ON ANCIENT PAGAN BELIEFS 30 00:01:36,497 --> 00:01:39,298 AND SORCERY, WAS BEGINNING TO EMERGE. 31 00:01:39,300 --> 00:01:41,433 Dr. Selwood: TODAY, WHEN WE THINK OF NAZISM, 32 00:01:41,435 --> 00:01:44,403 WE TEND TO LOOK AT A POLITICAL IDEOLOGY 33 00:01:44,405 --> 00:01:47,239 THAT WAS BENT ON TERRITORIAL CONQUESTS 34 00:01:47,241 --> 00:01:50,175 AND ON RACIAL EXTERMINATION. 35 00:01:50,177 --> 00:01:51,810 BUT ACTUALLY IT'S BROADER THAN THAT. 36 00:01:51,812 --> 00:01:55,647 THERE'S A MORE PHILOSOPHICAL PART OF NAZISM AS WELL. 37 00:01:55,649 --> 00:02:01,386 Picknett: THE NAZIS SUBSCRIBED TO AN EXTREME VERSION OF ARIOSOPHY. 38 00:02:01,388 --> 00:02:04,223 ARIOSOPHY WAS THE IDEA 39 00:02:04,225 --> 00:02:07,726 THAT THERE WAS AN ANCIENT GERMANIC ARYAN RACE, 40 00:02:07,728 --> 00:02:10,696 THAT WAS A PURE RACE, A STRONG RACE. 41 00:02:10,698 --> 00:02:14,833 Gough: THIS NOTION OF THIS ANCIENT, MYSTIC, ARYAN RACE 42 00:02:14,835 --> 00:02:17,202 THAT'S BEEN AROUND THOUSANDS OF YEARS, 43 00:02:17,204 --> 00:02:20,672 THEY FELT THAT GAVE THEM ENTITLEMENT. 44 00:02:20,674 --> 00:02:23,876 AND WAS THE MOTIVATION AND THE JUSTIFICATION 45 00:02:23,878 --> 00:02:26,612 FOR ALL OF THEIR DESPICABLE ACTIONS. 46 00:02:29,383 --> 00:02:32,017 Narrator: HEINRICH HIMMLER WAS HITLER'S SECOND IN COMMAND 47 00:02:32,019 --> 00:02:35,320 AND THE MAN CHIEFLY RESPONSIBLE FOR ACTIVELY ENCOURAGING 48 00:02:35,322 --> 00:02:37,089 NOT ONLY THE BELIEF IN THE OCCULT, 49 00:02:37,091 --> 00:02:40,692 BUT ALSO THE IDEA THAT THE NAZIS REALLY WERE DESCENDED 50 00:02:40,694 --> 00:02:43,328 FROM A SUPER RACE OF BEINGS. 51 00:02:43,330 --> 00:02:47,666 Gough: HEINRICH HIMMLER WAS ONE OF THE MOST POWERFUL MEN IN GERMANY. 52 00:02:47,668 --> 00:02:53,105 HE WAS HITLER'S RIGHT HAND MAN AND THE COMMANDER OF THE SS. 53 00:02:53,107 --> 00:02:54,873 Dr. Bellinger: HE WAS A RABID OCCULTIST. 54 00:02:54,875 --> 00:02:56,909 AND REALLY BROUGHT TO HITLER 55 00:02:56,911 --> 00:03:00,045 A WHOLE PANOPLY OF PROPAGANDA TOOLS 56 00:03:00,047 --> 00:03:04,616 THAT HE COULD USE TO JUSTIFY WHAT THE NAZIS WERE DOING. 57 00:03:04,618 --> 00:03:09,755 AND TO REALLY PLACE IT IN THE ROOTS OF A FALSE ARYAN MYTHOLOGY 58 00:03:09,757 --> 00:03:14,426 DESIGNED TO MAKE THE AVERAGE GERMAN PERSON FEEL NOT JUST OKAY 59 00:03:14,428 --> 00:03:17,996 WITH WHAT HITLER WAS DOING, BUT PROUD OF IT. 60 00:03:17,998 --> 00:03:22,301 McMahon: HEINRICH HIMMLER WAS THE FOUNDER AND THE HEAD OF THE SS. 61 00:03:22,303 --> 00:03:25,204 HE ALSO ENDED UP LEADING THE GESTAPO 62 00:03:25,206 --> 00:03:27,973 AND EVENTUALLY FOUNDED THE CONCENTRATION CAMPS 63 00:03:27,975 --> 00:03:30,342 THAT KILLED MILLIONS OF PEOPLE. 64 00:03:30,344 --> 00:03:33,078 AND WHAT DROVE HIM IN HIS MISSION 65 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:37,149 WAS THIS UNDERLYING BELIEF THAT THE GERMAN PEOPLE 66 00:03:37,151 --> 00:03:40,185 WERE SET APART FROM THE REST OF HUMANITY. 67 00:03:40,187 --> 00:03:41,553 AND IN ORDER TO PROVE THAT, 68 00:03:41,555 --> 00:03:45,324 HE DELVED VERY DEEPLY INTO THE OCCULT. 69 00:03:45,326 --> 00:03:50,229 HE NEEDED TO FIND A SUPERNATURAL BACK STORY TO THE GERMAN PEOPLE 70 00:03:50,231 --> 00:03:53,932 AND THAT LED HIM ON THE TRAIL OF THE HOLY GRAIL. 71 00:03:53,934 --> 00:03:56,802 IT LED HIM TO SEND PEOPLE ALL OVER THE WORLD 72 00:03:56,804 --> 00:04:02,074 LOOKING FOR NON-EVOLUTIONARY ROOTS OF THE GERMAN PEOPLE. 73 00:04:05,913 --> 00:04:08,814 Narrator: ERIC KURLANDER IS A HISTORIAN AND AUTHOR 74 00:04:08,816 --> 00:04:11,783 WHO HAS RESEARCHED NAZI OCCULTISM FOR DECADES. 75 00:04:11,785 --> 00:04:14,119 HE HAS TRAVELED TO QUEDLINBURG CASTLE, 76 00:04:14,121 --> 00:04:17,122 A 1,000-YEAR OLD FORTRESS IN CENTRAL GERMANY 77 00:04:17,124 --> 00:04:21,126 TO UNCOVER THE ORIGIN OF HIMMLER'S OCCULT OBSESSION. 78 00:04:21,128 --> 00:04:25,063 SO WE'RE APPROACHING THE QUEDLINBURG CASTLE AND ABBEY 79 00:04:25,065 --> 00:04:28,267 WHICH WAS FOUNDED 1,100 YEARS AGO BY HENRY THE FOWLER, 80 00:04:28,269 --> 00:04:30,035 THE GREAT SAXON KING. 81 00:04:30,037 --> 00:04:33,238 HENRY THE FOWLER WAS SEEN AS MORE AUTHENTICALLY GERMAN 82 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,741 THAN OTHER GERMANIC KINGS OF THE MIDDLE AGES, 83 00:04:35,743 --> 00:04:38,844 BY HEINRICH HIMMLER, THE REICH'S FUHRER SS, 84 00:04:38,846 --> 00:04:41,813 WHO DECIDED THAT THIS WOULD BE A SITE 85 00:04:41,815 --> 00:04:46,184 WHERE YOU COULD CELEBRATE GERMANIC PAGANISM. 86 00:04:46,186 --> 00:04:48,654 Dr. Bellinger: HENRY THE FOWLER WAS KING HEINRICH THE FIRST 87 00:04:48,656 --> 00:04:50,856 AND HE UNIFIED FOR THE FIRST TIME, 88 00:04:50,858 --> 00:04:53,992 THE GERMAN STATE IN 956 89 00:04:53,994 --> 00:04:57,496 AND BROUGHT TOGETHER EVERYBODY OUT OF WARRING TERRITORIES. 90 00:04:57,498 --> 00:05:00,899 AND IT WAS THE LAUNCH OF WHAT BECAME KNOWN AS THE FIRST REICH. 91 00:05:00,901 --> 00:05:03,101 SO IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE THAT HIMMLER WAS GOING 92 00:05:03,103 --> 00:05:08,073 TO APPROPRIATE THIS MYTH FOR PROPAGANDA PURPOSES. 93 00:05:08,075 --> 00:05:09,841 Kurlander: SO HIMMLER WAS RAISED CATHOLIC, 94 00:05:09,843 --> 00:05:13,145 BUT HE VERY EARLY ON REJECTED HIS CHRISTIAN UPBRINGING. 95 00:05:13,147 --> 00:05:15,147 AND SOUGHT TO CREATE THROUGH THE SS, 96 00:05:15,149 --> 00:05:18,617 A KIND OF PRE-CHRISTIAN RELIGIOUS TRADITION IN GERMANY. 97 00:05:18,619 --> 00:05:20,919 AN ARIO-GERMANIC RELIGION. 98 00:05:20,921 --> 00:05:22,120 ONE WAY HE WAS GOING TO DO THAT 99 00:05:22,122 --> 00:05:24,589 WAS BY TAKING CHRISTIAN FESTIVALS, 100 00:05:24,591 --> 00:05:26,425 LIKE CHRISTMAS AND REPLACING THEM 101 00:05:26,427 --> 00:05:28,560 WITH THE OLD WINTER SOLSTICE FESTIVALS, 102 00:05:28,562 --> 00:05:33,799 THE YULE CELEBRATIONS OF PRE-CHRISTIAN PAGAN TRADITION. 103 00:05:33,801 --> 00:05:37,069 FOR EXAMPLE, IN THIS ROOM, IN 1936, 104 00:05:37,071 --> 00:05:39,604 HE INAUGURATED THE FIRST FESTIVAL 105 00:05:39,606 --> 00:05:42,908 IN HONOR OF HENRY THE FOWLER, THE GREAT SAXON KING, 106 00:05:42,910 --> 00:05:46,978 WHO FOR HIM REPRESENTED THE PRE-CHRISTIAN GERMAN REALITY 107 00:05:46,980 --> 00:05:49,981 THAT HE WANTED TO RECREATE. 108 00:05:49,983 --> 00:05:54,119 HIMMLER GENUINELY BELIEVED THAT HE WAS EITHER THE REINCARNATION 109 00:05:54,121 --> 00:05:56,221 OR THE DESCENDANT OF HENRY THE FOWLER. 110 00:05:56,223 --> 00:05:59,324 AND HIMMLER, IN HIS DELUDED STATE, 111 00:05:59,326 --> 00:06:03,495 USED TO GO TO THE ABBEY, HOLD SéANCES IN THE ABBEY, 112 00:06:03,497 --> 00:06:07,466 PRAYED AT THE GRAVE OR THE SHRINE OF HENRY THE FOULER. 113 00:06:07,468 --> 00:06:10,602 AND GENUINELY BELIEVED THAT HE WAS ABLE TO CONNECT 114 00:06:10,604 --> 00:06:14,239 WITH THE SPIRIT OF HIS DEAD ANCESTOR. 115 00:06:17,511 --> 00:06:21,546 Kurlander: SO WE'RE STANDING IN THE OLDEST PART OF THE QUEDLINBURG 116 00:06:21,548 --> 00:06:23,982 CASTLE AND MONASTERY. 117 00:06:23,984 --> 00:06:25,751 WHERE HENRY THE FOWLER, 118 00:06:25,753 --> 00:06:29,221 WHO BUILT THE VERY FOUNDATIONS OF THIS MONASTERY, 119 00:06:29,223 --> 00:06:32,891 WAS BURIED A THOUSAND YEARS AGO. 120 00:06:32,893 --> 00:06:35,127 SO ONE OF THE REASONS THAT HEINRICH HIMMLER 121 00:06:35,129 --> 00:06:37,963 FOUND THIS SPACE SO INTERESTING, 122 00:06:37,965 --> 00:06:41,199 IS IT WASN'T JUST THE SAXON ORIGINS, 123 00:06:41,201 --> 00:06:43,301 THE BASIS OF ARIO-GERMANIC EMPIRE 124 00:06:43,303 --> 00:06:45,637 THAT HE AND THE SS WANTED TO RECREATE, 125 00:06:45,639 --> 00:06:47,272 HE ACTUALLY BELIEVED HE MAY HAVE BEEN 126 00:06:47,274 --> 00:06:51,243 THE REINCARNATION OF HENRY THE FOWLER. 127 00:06:51,245 --> 00:06:54,579 SO THIS SPACE REALLY REPRESENT ONE PART OF WHAT I CALL 128 00:06:54,581 --> 00:06:59,117 THE SUPERNATURAL IMAGINARY THAT MANY NAZIS SUBSCRIBE TO. 129 00:06:59,119 --> 00:07:01,086 IT'S LINKED TO PAGAN RELIGION. 130 00:07:01,088 --> 00:07:03,422 AN ARIO-GERMANIC RELIGIOUS BELIEFS, 131 00:07:03,424 --> 00:07:05,157 KIND OF PRE-CHRISTIAN BELIEFS, 132 00:07:05,159 --> 00:07:07,759 THAT WAS AN IMPORTANT PILLAR OF NAZI THINKING. 133 00:07:07,761 --> 00:07:12,597 IT OVERLAPS IN SOME WAYS WITH OCCULT AND ESOTERIC IDEAS, 134 00:07:12,599 --> 00:07:13,932 BUT IT'S NOT THE SAME THING 135 00:07:13,934 --> 00:07:16,134 AND THAT'S WHY THE QUEDLINBURG IS MORE 136 00:07:16,136 --> 00:07:20,806 A KIND OF PAGAN RELIGIOUS SITE FOR HEINRICH HIMMLER. 137 00:07:20,808 --> 00:07:22,908 Walters: SO WHAT YOU SEE WITH THIS YOUNG HIMMLER, 138 00:07:22,910 --> 00:07:24,142 HE'S VERY IMPRESSIONABLE. 139 00:07:24,144 --> 00:07:26,711 HE LOOKS BACK ALONG THE PRUSSIAN AND GERMANIC PAST, 140 00:07:26,713 --> 00:07:31,316 MYTH AND LEGEND AND THERE HE FINDS EXAMPLES AND STORIES 141 00:07:31,318 --> 00:07:34,553 AND THE KIND OF HEROES, THAT HE ALWAYS WANTS TO BE. 142 00:07:34,555 --> 00:07:36,655 AND SO THEREFORE, HE'S VERY SEDUCED 143 00:07:36,657 --> 00:07:39,624 BY THE WHOLE FEEL OF THAT LEGEND AND MYTH 144 00:07:39,626 --> 00:07:41,960 AND ALSO BY THE ESOTERIC-ISM OF IT. 145 00:07:41,962 --> 00:07:45,163 AND HE REALLY BUYS IN TO ALL THE RUNES AND THE CULTURE 146 00:07:45,165 --> 00:07:48,099 AND THE MAGIC AND ALL THE MUMBO-JUMBO. 147 00:07:48,101 --> 00:07:51,770 Narrator: BUT HIMMLER'S STRANGE BELIEFS IN ANCIENT GERMAN MYTHOLOGY 148 00:07:51,772 --> 00:07:53,238 AND ESOTERIC-ISM, 149 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,041 SOON TOOK A MUCH MORE SINISTER TURN. 150 00:07:56,043 --> 00:08:00,045 WHILE STUDYING FARMING AT THE TECHNICAL UNIVERSITY IN MUNICH, 151 00:08:00,047 --> 00:08:02,280 HIMMLER BECAME FASCINATED WITH BREEDING. 152 00:08:02,282 --> 00:08:03,548 SELECTIVE BREEDING. 153 00:08:03,550 --> 00:08:06,251 NOT JUST ANIMALS, BUT ALSO HUMAN BEINGS. 154 00:08:06,253 --> 00:08:09,821 COULD WE CREATE OR RECREATE MORE IMPORTANTLY, A MASTER RACE? 155 00:08:09,823 --> 00:08:12,424 SINCE HIMMLER BELIEVED THAT THE ARYAN RACE 156 00:08:12,426 --> 00:08:15,093 HAD BEEN PERFECT THOUSANDS OF YEARS EARLIER, 157 00:08:15,095 --> 00:08:17,362 MAYBE YOU COULD USE MODERN BREEDING TECHNIQUES 158 00:08:17,364 --> 00:08:21,600 TO BRING THIS ARYAN UTOPIA BACK INTO BEING. 159 00:08:21,602 --> 00:08:24,269 Dr. Selwood: NAZISM WAS FOR THE WHOLE PERSON. 160 00:08:24,271 --> 00:08:27,772 IT WASN'T JUST ABOUT THE POLITICAL SIDE OF AN INDIVIDUAL. 161 00:08:27,774 --> 00:08:29,808 AND SO ELEMENTS THAT WERE BROUGHT IN, 162 00:08:29,810 --> 00:08:31,176 THE PEOPLE REALLY IDENTIFIED WITH 163 00:08:31,178 --> 00:08:34,145 AND THERE'S SO MUCH LITERATURE FROM THE PERIOD ON THIS, 164 00:08:34,147 --> 00:08:35,847 WAS PARTICULARLY LINKING, 165 00:08:35,849 --> 00:08:38,683 THEY ARE DESCENDED FROM THESE SUPER PEOPLE, 166 00:08:38,685 --> 00:08:40,318 WHO LIVED MILLENIA AGO. 167 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,020 SO THIS IS A TRADITION. 168 00:08:42,022 --> 00:08:43,355 IT'S A CONTINUATION. 169 00:08:43,357 --> 00:08:45,524 THE NAZIS DIDN'T THINK THEY WERE INVENTING SOMETHING. 170 00:08:45,526 --> 00:08:49,761 THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE TAPPING INTO AN ANCIENT FORCE. 171 00:08:49,763 --> 00:08:53,098 Narrator: INSPIRED BY GERMAN PAGANISM, HIMMLER TOOK HIS OCCULT 172 00:08:53,100 --> 00:08:56,468 THINKING EVEN FURTHER AND USED AN ANCIENT CODE 173 00:08:56,470 --> 00:08:59,437 TO CREATE THE MOST FEARED SYMBOL OF ALL. 174 00:09:01,341 --> 00:09:08,313 ¶ 175 00:09:08,315 --> 00:09:10,148 Narrator: IN THE LEAD UP TO WORLD WAR TWO, 176 00:09:10,150 --> 00:09:12,250 THE NAZIS BECAME INCREASINGLY OBSESSED 177 00:09:12,252 --> 00:09:16,087 WITH ANCIENT GERMAN MYTHOLOGY AND BLACK MAGIC. 178 00:09:16,089 --> 00:09:19,891 McMahon: FROM THE OUTSET, THE NAZIS WERE HEAVILY INFLUENCED 179 00:09:19,893 --> 00:09:21,526 BY OCCULT IDEAS. 180 00:09:21,528 --> 00:09:24,829 HITLER, HIMMLER, AND OTHERS WERE DESPERATE TO PROVE 181 00:09:24,831 --> 00:09:29,034 THAT THE "ARYAN RACE" HAD SOMEHOW ORIGINATED 182 00:09:29,036 --> 00:09:30,802 SEPARATELY FROM THE REST OF HUMANITY. 183 00:09:30,804 --> 00:09:34,573 AND IN ORDER TO PROVE THAT HIGHLY UNSCIENTIFIC THEORY, 184 00:09:34,575 --> 00:09:37,375 THEY NEEDED TO RESORT TO SOMETHING SUPERNATURAL, 185 00:09:37,377 --> 00:09:39,010 SOMETHING OCCULT. 186 00:09:39,012 --> 00:09:42,147 Dr. Bellinger: BY TELLING THE GERMAN PEOPLE THAT THEY WERE DESCENDED 187 00:09:42,149 --> 00:09:45,884 FROM A MASTER RACE, A SUPERIOR RACE OF BEINGS, 188 00:09:45,886 --> 00:09:53,158 THAT LITERALLY DERIVED FROM EPIC MYTHOLOGY OF SUPERB PEACE, 189 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,261 HARMONY, AND ACHIEVEMENT, THIS IS REALLY CANNY. 190 00:09:56,263 --> 00:09:58,463 I MEAN THIS WAS DIRECTLY ADDRESSING 191 00:09:58,465 --> 00:10:01,066 THE PSYCHOLOGICAL DAMAGE DONE UPON 192 00:10:01,068 --> 00:10:05,003 THE GERMAN NATIONAL PSYCHE BY WORLD WAR I. 193 00:10:05,005 --> 00:10:08,807 Narrator: GUIDO VON LIST WAS A KEY FIGURE IN EARLY NAZI OCCULTISM 194 00:10:08,809 --> 00:10:11,610 AND A MAJOR INFLUENCE ON HEINRICH HIMMLER. 195 00:10:11,612 --> 00:10:16,615 Gough: GUIDO VON LIST WAS AN OCCULTIST WHO REVIVED A RELIGIOUS MOVEMENT 196 00:10:16,617 --> 00:10:22,587 WHICH SHOWED THE ANCIENT ARYAN ROOTS OF THE GERMANIC PEOPLE. 197 00:10:22,589 --> 00:10:24,489 AND WHY THIS WAS SO IMPORTANT, 198 00:10:24,491 --> 00:10:28,393 IS THAT IT SERVED AS THE INSPIRATION TO HIMMLER 199 00:10:28,395 --> 00:10:31,663 WHO WOULD LATER ADOPT THESE SAME BELIEFS. 200 00:10:31,665 --> 00:10:34,933 Dr. Bellinger: GUIDO VON LIST WAS A PAGANIST WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE, 201 00:10:34,935 --> 00:10:36,801 LARGELY, FOR THE RUNIC REVIVAL, 202 00:10:36,803 --> 00:10:39,304 WHICH BECAME A REALLY CENTRAL PART OF THE SYMBOLISM 203 00:10:39,306 --> 00:10:41,973 AND ICONOGRAPHY OF THE NAZI PARTY. 204 00:10:41,975 --> 00:10:46,211 AND PARTICULARLY OF THE REGALIA WORN BY THE SS. 205 00:10:49,516 --> 00:10:52,250 Narrator: IT WAS LIST'S TEACHINGS THAT ENCOURAGED HIMMLER 206 00:10:52,252 --> 00:10:55,720 TO TURN HIS TWISTED MIND TO AN ANCIENT LANGUAGE 207 00:10:55,722 --> 00:10:58,456 MADE OF MAGICAL SYMBOLS CALLED RUNES. 208 00:10:58,458 --> 00:11:01,526 GAVIN BONE IS A HISTORIAN AND EXPERT ON RUNES, 209 00:11:01,528 --> 00:11:05,597 WHO BELIEVES THEY ARE THE KEY TO UNDERSTANDING NAZI ICONOGRAPHY. 210 00:11:05,599 --> 00:11:09,567 Bone: SO THE WORD RUNE COMES FROM THE OLD GERMAN, "RUNYON" 211 00:11:09,569 --> 00:11:14,105 WHICH MEANS A MYSTERY, A SECRET, TO WHISPER, SOMETHING HIDDEN. 212 00:11:14,107 --> 00:11:17,909 AND THE RUNES ORIGINALLY WERE A SYSTEM OF WRITING 213 00:11:17,911 --> 00:11:21,279 AMONGST THE GERMAN PEOPLES GOING BACK, THEY BELIEVE, 214 00:11:21,281 --> 00:11:23,448 AS FAR BACK AS 200 BC. 215 00:11:23,450 --> 00:11:26,551 THEIR ORIGINS IN NAZI OCCULTISM 216 00:11:26,553 --> 00:11:28,653 DERIVE FROM AN AUSTRIAN JOURNALIST, 217 00:11:28,655 --> 00:11:33,291 PLAYWRIGHT AND AUTHOR NAMED GUIDO LIST. 218 00:11:33,293 --> 00:11:37,896 GUIDO VON LIST BELIEVED THAT THERE HAD BEEN A GERMANIC EMPIRE 219 00:11:37,898 --> 00:11:40,932 THAT WORSHIPED A PAGAN GOD, WOTAN, 220 00:11:40,934 --> 00:11:43,101 AND THAT USED THIS RUNIC SCRIPT. 221 00:11:43,103 --> 00:11:46,337 AND IN FACT, THE NAZIS LATCHED ON TO THIS IDEA 222 00:11:46,339 --> 00:11:49,741 OF THE RUNIC ALPHABET BEING THE TRUE GERMAN ALPHABET. 223 00:11:49,743 --> 00:11:51,843 AND IT INFORMED THEIR ICONOGRAPHY, 224 00:11:51,845 --> 00:11:56,014 IN PARTICULAR THE SS LOGO THAT WE ALL KNOW TODAY. 225 00:11:56,016 --> 00:12:00,418 Bone: VON LIST IS RESPONSIBLE FOR IS THE INTEGRATION OF THE RUNES 226 00:12:00,420 --> 00:12:04,022 INTO THE SS AS SYMBOLS. 227 00:12:04,024 --> 00:12:07,192 ONE OF THE MOST FAMOUS SYMBOLS THE NAZI'S WERE ASSOCIATED WITH 228 00:12:07,194 --> 00:12:10,261 WAS THE DOUBLE LIGHTNING FLASH, THE DOUBLE SIG 229 00:12:10,263 --> 00:12:13,031 OR THE SCHUTZSTAFFEL... THE SS. 230 00:12:13,033 --> 00:12:16,801 WHICH COMES FROM THE SIG RUNE ALSO KNOWN AS THE SOWILO RUNE. 231 00:12:16,803 --> 00:12:19,671 THIS RUNE WAS ORIGINALLY AS SYMBOL OF SUCCESS, 232 00:12:19,673 --> 00:12:21,606 OF HAPPINESS, OF PEACE. 233 00:12:21,608 --> 00:12:23,007 IT BECOMES TWISTED. 234 00:12:23,009 --> 00:12:26,544 IT BECOMES A SYMBOL FOR VICTORY, 235 00:12:26,546 --> 00:12:32,484 HENCE THE NAZI SALUTE, "ZEIG HEIL" IS "HAIL VICTORY." 236 00:12:32,486 --> 00:12:36,387 HERE YOU SEE THE DOUBLE S PATCH, DOUBLE SIG PATCH. 237 00:12:36,389 --> 00:12:37,756 HERE YOU SEE IT ACTUALLY AS IT 238 00:12:37,758 --> 00:12:43,027 WAS ORIGINALLY IN THE ELDER FUTHARK RUNES. 239 00:12:43,029 --> 00:12:44,662 Dr. Selwood: HIMMLER WANTED THE SS TO STAND 240 00:12:44,664 --> 00:12:46,731 FOR SOMETHING OUT OF THE ORDINARY 241 00:12:46,733 --> 00:12:48,366 AND TO DO THAT, HE INFUSED IT 242 00:12:48,368 --> 00:12:51,770 WITH ALL THESE DIFFERENT CURRENTS OF THE OCCULT. 243 00:12:51,772 --> 00:12:53,571 SO MOST OBVIOUSLY HE DID IT VISUALLY. 244 00:12:53,573 --> 00:12:55,273 SO THINGS LIKE THE SS RUNE, 245 00:12:55,275 --> 00:12:57,675 THE TWO LETTERS S YOU SEE, THE LIGHTNING BOLTS, 246 00:12:57,677 --> 00:13:00,178 THOSE ARE OLD GERMANIC RUNES, IT'S CALLED THE SIG RUNE. 247 00:13:00,180 --> 00:13:02,480 THEY HAVE MEANING. THEY CAN BE INTERPRETED. 248 00:13:02,482 --> 00:13:06,718 MANY OTHER RUNES WERE USED IN SS UNIFORMS, IN SS BANNERS, 249 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:08,686 ON THE DAGGERS THAT THEY HAD, 250 00:13:08,688 --> 00:13:11,189 ALL SORTS OF ARTICLES OF SS PARAPHERNALIA 251 00:13:11,191 --> 00:13:13,958 WERE ENGRAVED AND EMBLAZONED WITH THESE RUNES. 252 00:13:17,898 --> 00:13:20,698 IT WAS GUIDO LIST WHO INTRODUCED ONE OF THE MOST WELL KNOWN, 253 00:13:20,700 --> 00:13:24,102 AND HAS BECOME OF THE MOST HATED SYMBOLS IN THE WORLD, 254 00:13:24,104 --> 00:13:25,937 AND THAT WAS THE SWASTIKA. 255 00:13:25,939 --> 00:13:29,340 OF COURSE THAT WAS NOT IT'S ORIGINAL GERMAN NAME. 256 00:13:29,342 --> 00:13:30,708 IT HAD SEVERAL NAMES. 257 00:13:30,710 --> 00:13:33,044 THE HAKENKRUIS, THE HOOKED CROSS. 258 00:13:33,046 --> 00:13:36,781 THE FYLFOT, THE MANY-FOOTED CROSS. 259 00:13:36,783 --> 00:13:39,217 NOW ONE OF THE GREAT FALLACIES WHICH HAS OCCURRED 260 00:13:39,219 --> 00:13:41,319 SINCE THE SECOND WORLD WAR, 261 00:13:41,321 --> 00:13:44,189 IS THE NAZIS, SPECIFICALLY HITLER AND HIMMLER, 262 00:13:44,191 --> 00:13:47,325 REVERSED THE ROTATION. 263 00:13:47,327 --> 00:13:48,660 THAT'S ACTUALLY NOT TRUE. 264 00:13:48,662 --> 00:13:51,196 AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS SENSA FROM INDIA, 265 00:13:51,198 --> 00:13:53,698 IT IS IN FACT GOING THE SAME DIRECTION. 266 00:13:53,700 --> 00:13:58,236 THE DOUBLE SIG, IS ACTUALLY THE SAME AS THE SWASTIKA. 267 00:13:58,238 --> 00:14:01,539 IF YOU TAKE THE TWO SIG AND INTERLOCK THEM, 268 00:14:01,541 --> 00:14:02,907 THEY ACTUALLY BECOME THE SWASTIKA. 269 00:14:02,909 --> 00:14:05,009 THEY ORIGINALLY MEANT THE SAME THING. 270 00:14:05,011 --> 00:14:07,178 BUT OF COURSE THE SWASTIKA WAS NEVER ORIGINALLY 271 00:14:07,180 --> 00:14:08,546 A SYMBOL OF HATE. 272 00:14:08,548 --> 00:14:10,114 YOU STILL FIND IT AROUND THE WORLD 273 00:14:10,116 --> 00:14:12,183 IN MANY CULTURES AND TRADITIONS. 274 00:14:12,185 --> 00:14:15,687 AND STILL YOU SEE IN PLACES SUCH AS INDIA, TIBET, 275 00:14:15,689 --> 00:14:19,891 THE SWASTIKA IS STILL IN USE AS A SACRED SYMBOL. 276 00:14:19,893 --> 00:14:21,326 IT REPRESENTS THE SUN. 277 00:14:21,328 --> 00:14:25,496 IT REPRESENTS GOOD LUCK, GOOD FORTUNE. 278 00:14:25,498 --> 00:14:28,166 Walters: YOU'VE GOT TO REMEMBER THAT THE NAZIS WERE REALLY GOOD 279 00:14:28,168 --> 00:14:30,368 AT THE BRANDING BUSINESS, IS WHAT WE CALL IT TODAY. 280 00:14:30,370 --> 00:14:34,105 I MEAN THERE IS NO BETTER BRAND THAN THE SWASTIKA. 281 00:14:34,107 --> 00:14:36,241 I MEAN IT'S A VERY, VERY POWERFUL ICON 282 00:14:36,243 --> 00:14:38,109 SET ON THE WHITE AND THE RED, 283 00:14:38,111 --> 00:14:41,579 YOU KNOW THESE ARE INCREDIBLY CAPTIVATING COLORS, NORMALLY. 284 00:14:41,581 --> 00:14:44,115 AND THEN THE SYMBOL OF THE SWASTIKA IS VERY POWERFUL 285 00:14:44,117 --> 00:14:46,084 AND EQUALLY THE SS RUNES, 286 00:14:46,086 --> 00:14:48,953 AND THEY WERE RUNES, FROM NORSE CULTURE. 287 00:14:48,955 --> 00:14:52,557 SO OBVIOUSLY YOU EVEN GOT THE UNIFORM OF THE KIND OF ELITE 288 00:14:52,559 --> 00:14:56,261 ARMED UNIT OF THE THIRD REICH WERE DRESSED YOU KNOW, 289 00:14:56,263 --> 00:15:00,365 WITH THESE SYMBOLS, WHICH HAD THEIR ROOTS IN MYTHOLOGY. 290 00:15:00,367 --> 00:15:03,835 Narrator: ERIC KURLANDER IS AN ACADEMIC AND AUTHOR WHO HAS SPEND DECADES 291 00:15:03,837 --> 00:15:06,604 ON COVERING THE NAZIS OCCULT OBSESSION. 292 00:15:06,606 --> 00:15:08,940 CORE TO THE NAZIS TWISTED IDEOLOGY, 293 00:15:08,942 --> 00:15:11,976 WAS A BELIEF CALLED IRMINISM, A PSEUDO-RELIGION, 294 00:15:11,978 --> 00:15:13,912 WHICH SS COMMANDER HIMMLER BELIEVED 295 00:15:13,914 --> 00:15:16,114 WAS WORSHIPPED AT VARIOUS PAGAN SITES 296 00:15:16,116 --> 00:15:18,750 IN ANCIENT HISTORY, ACROSS GERMANY. 297 00:15:18,752 --> 00:15:22,720 Kurlander: SO ARMINISM OR IRMINISM AS THE ARIOSOPHISTS CALLED IT, 298 00:15:22,722 --> 00:15:26,257 BELIEVE THAT THERE IS AN ANCIENT GERMANIC CIVILIZATION 299 00:15:26,259 --> 00:15:28,126 THAT LIVED IN PRE-HISTORY, 300 00:15:28,128 --> 00:15:30,028 WHERE THERE WERE FROST GIANTS AND DWARVES. 301 00:15:30,030 --> 00:15:32,697 AND POTENTIALLY THAT THIS ARYAN CIVILIZATION 302 00:15:32,699 --> 00:15:35,500 HAD ORIGINATED FROM MEETING WITH EXTRA-TERRESTRIALS, 303 00:15:35,502 --> 00:15:37,101 WHICH IS WHY IT WAS SO POWERFUL, 304 00:15:37,103 --> 00:15:39,203 AND HAD A THIRD EYE AND COULD YOU KNOW, 305 00:15:39,205 --> 00:15:43,908 EXERCISE GREATER MENTAL ACUITY THAN NORMAL RACES ON EARTH. 306 00:15:43,910 --> 00:15:47,078 AND THIS SUPERIOR CIVILIZATION PRACTICED A KIND OF RELIGION, 307 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,480 A CULTURE THAT THEY THOUGHT LASTED 308 00:15:49,482 --> 00:15:51,816 UNTIL THE EARLY MEDIEVAL PERIOD. 309 00:15:51,818 --> 00:15:54,719 AND WAS PRACTICED HERE AT THE EXTERNSTEINE. 310 00:15:54,721 --> 00:15:56,754 Narrator: ALSO COMPARED TO STONEHENGE, 311 00:15:56,756 --> 00:16:00,725 THE EXTERNSTEINE IS A COLLECTION OF GIANT SANDSTONE PILLARS, 312 00:16:00,727 --> 00:16:03,962 USED A PAGAN RELIGIOUS SITE FOR MILLENNIA. 313 00:16:03,964 --> 00:16:06,898 Kurlander: TO THE EXTERNSTEINE ARE A SITE 314 00:16:06,900 --> 00:16:10,301 WHERE HIMMLER'S VARIOUS FANTASIES KIND OF COME TOGETHER. 315 00:16:10,303 --> 00:16:12,870 HIS RELIGIOUS BELIEFS ABOUT A PRE-CHRISTIAN 316 00:16:12,872 --> 00:16:17,208 GERMANIC RELIGIOUS TRADITION, HIS BORDER SCIENTIFIC BELIEFS 317 00:16:17,210 --> 00:16:20,278 THAT YOU COULD USE ARCHEOLOGY AND ASTROLOGY 318 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,080 TO RECREATE THE FOUNDATIONS 319 00:16:22,082 --> 00:16:24,282 OF THIS ANCIENT GERMANIC CIVILIZATION. 320 00:16:24,284 --> 00:16:26,150 AND OF COURSE HIS OCCULT BELIEF, 321 00:16:26,152 --> 00:16:30,021 ALL OF THAT COMES TOGETHER AT THE EXTERNSTEINE. 322 00:16:30,023 --> 00:16:32,724 Dr. Selwood: HIMMLER WAS A NUTTER AND LIKE ALL NUTTERS, 323 00:16:32,726 --> 00:16:35,026 HE WAS PREOCCUPIED WITH PSEUDO-SCIENCE. 324 00:16:35,028 --> 00:16:37,028 SO HE CREATED, WITHIN THE SS, 325 00:16:37,030 --> 00:16:38,663 A DIVISION CALLED THE AHNENERBE, 326 00:16:38,665 --> 00:16:40,698 WHICH MEANS ANCESTRAL HERITAGE. 327 00:16:40,700 --> 00:16:43,301 AND HIS IDEA WAS THAT THIS WOULD BE A THINK TANK 328 00:16:43,303 --> 00:16:44,769 THAT WOULD ROAM THE WORLD 329 00:16:44,771 --> 00:16:47,572 AND GATHER EVIDENCE OF THESE ANCIENT CULTURES 330 00:16:47,574 --> 00:16:50,174 AND DEMONSTRATE THAT HIS RACIAL THEORIES AND THEORIES 331 00:16:50,176 --> 00:16:53,144 ABOUT GERMANIC SUPER PEOPLE, WERE ACTUALLY RIGHT. 332 00:16:53,146 --> 00:16:56,614 Janulis: AND THEY EVEN GOT SCIENTISTS, ARCHAEOLOGISTS, BIOLOGISTS, 333 00:16:56,616 --> 00:16:59,817 ET CETERA IN ON THESE TEAMS GOING AROUND 334 00:16:59,819 --> 00:17:03,021 LOOKING FOR THE ORIGINS OF TRUE ARYANS. 335 00:17:03,023 --> 00:17:04,722 AND THE ANCIENT GIANTS, 336 00:17:04,724 --> 00:17:06,691 THE NIFLHEIM AND THESE SORTS OF THINGS 337 00:17:06,693 --> 00:17:09,127 AND MEASURING PEOPLE'S HEADS OUT IN NEPAL. 338 00:17:09,129 --> 00:17:12,663 AND SO I CAN'T IMAGINE RESPECTED SCIENTISTS 339 00:17:12,665 --> 00:17:15,199 SIGNING UP FOR ONE OF THESE PROJECTS, 340 00:17:15,201 --> 00:17:18,503 UNLESS THEY WERE FORCED TO DO SO POLITICALLY. 341 00:17:18,505 --> 00:17:20,772 Narrator: ACCORDING TO LEGEND, THE IRMINISTS, 342 00:17:20,774 --> 00:17:23,141 LIKE THE MYTHICAL CIVILIZATION OF ATLANTIS, 343 00:17:23,143 --> 00:17:25,777 HAD A FANTASTICALLY ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY. 344 00:17:25,779 --> 00:17:28,346 AND HIMMLER BELIEVED THAT IF HE COULD FIND EVIDENCE 345 00:17:28,348 --> 00:17:31,249 OF THIS ANCIENT TECHNOLOGY AT THE EXTERNSTEINE, 346 00:17:31,251 --> 00:17:33,017 IT WOULD PROVE THAT THE GERMAN PEOPLE 347 00:17:33,019 --> 00:17:35,186 WERE DESCENDANTS OF A MASTER RACE 348 00:17:35,188 --> 00:17:38,556 AND THEREFORE, THE TRUE RULERS OF THE EARTH. 349 00:17:38,558 --> 00:17:41,392 SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE ARCHAEOLOGISTS IN THE INSTITUTE 350 00:17:41,394 --> 00:17:44,028 FOR ANCESTRAL RESEARCH, WERE LOOKING FOR, 351 00:17:44,030 --> 00:17:47,632 WAS EVIDENCE OF A SUPERIOR PRE-CHRISTIAN CIVILIZATION, 352 00:17:47,634 --> 00:17:49,734 TENS OF THOUSANDS OF YEARS OLD. 353 00:17:49,736 --> 00:17:51,035 THEY WERE EXCAVATING, 354 00:17:51,037 --> 00:17:53,771 LOOKING FOR EVIDENCE OF THIS SUPERIOR CIVILIZATION. 355 00:17:53,773 --> 00:17:57,375 WHAT THEY FOUND WERE NEOLITHIC TOOLS AND OTHER EVIDENCE 356 00:17:57,377 --> 00:17:59,977 SHOWING THAT THERE HAD BEEN SOME YOU KNOW, 357 00:17:59,979 --> 00:18:01,712 TRANSIENT HUMAN SETTLEMENTS HERE 358 00:18:01,714 --> 00:18:06,617 BUT NOTHING CO-NOTING A GREAT GERMANIC CIVILIZATION. 359 00:18:06,619 --> 00:18:09,087 Narrator: BUT HIMMLER WASN'T DETERRED BY THIS LACK OF 360 00:18:09,089 --> 00:18:10,721 ARCHAEOLOGICAL EVIDENCE. 361 00:18:10,723 --> 00:18:13,925 MEANWHILE, WHAT WERE HITLER'S BELIEFS DURING THIS TIME? 362 00:18:13,927 --> 00:18:16,160 LIKE HIMMLER, WAS HE UNDER THE INFLUENCE 363 00:18:16,162 --> 00:18:18,096 OF BLACK MAGIC AND MYTHOLOGY? 364 00:18:19,933 --> 00:18:24,902 ¶ 365 00:18:24,904 --> 00:18:27,939 [ SHOUTING IN GERMAN ] 366 00:18:27,941 --> 00:18:31,309 Narrator: NAZISM WAS MORE THAN JUST A POLITICAL IDEOLOGY. 367 00:18:31,311 --> 00:18:34,045 IT WAS A PHILOSOPHY FULL OF OCCULT IDEAS 368 00:18:34,047 --> 00:18:36,013 BASED ON PAGAN MYTHOLOGY. 369 00:18:36,015 --> 00:18:38,249 Gough: THE NAZI OCCULT BELIEFS WERE EXTREME. 370 00:18:38,251 --> 00:18:40,785 FOR A START THEY BELIEVED THAT THEIR LINEAGE 371 00:18:40,787 --> 00:18:43,454 WENT BACK THOUSANDS OF YEARS. 372 00:18:43,456 --> 00:18:47,158 THEY BELIEVED THAT THEIR LIFE WAS SEEDED ON EARTH 373 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:51,095 FROM A METEORITE FROM SPACE, NOT LIKE THE REST OF US. 374 00:18:51,097 --> 00:18:53,698 Dr. Bellinger: THE OCCULT WAS CENTRALLY IMPORTANT TO THE NAZIS. 375 00:18:53,700 --> 00:18:56,467 LIKE NOT JUST FOR WHAT PEOPLE THOUGHT IT MIGHT 376 00:18:56,469 --> 00:18:58,169 EFFECT AS MAGIC, 377 00:18:58,171 --> 00:19:01,906 IT MEANT SO MUCH ON A FALSE BUT, 378 00:19:01,908 --> 00:19:05,676 DEEP, DEEPLY ROOTED MYTHOLOGICAL BASIS, 379 00:19:05,678 --> 00:19:09,614 THAT LEGITIMIZED THE ENTIRE PROJECT. 380 00:19:09,616 --> 00:19:12,150 Narrator: HEINRICH HIMMLER WAS HITLER'S RIGHT HAND MAN 381 00:19:12,152 --> 00:19:14,519 AND FOUNDER OF THE DREADED SS. 382 00:19:14,521 --> 00:19:16,754 HIMMLER FULLY BELIEVED IN THE OCCULT 383 00:19:16,756 --> 00:19:19,056 BUT WHAT ABOUT THE FUHRER HIMSELF? 384 00:19:19,058 --> 00:19:20,625 WHAT INFLUENCE, IF ANY, 385 00:19:20,627 --> 00:19:23,694 DID BLACK MAGIC HAVE ON ADOLPH HITLER? 386 00:19:23,696 --> 00:19:25,530 Janulis: HITLER HAD A VERY UNIQUE SKILL. 387 00:19:25,532 --> 00:19:29,033 HE HAD THE ABILITY TO CAPTURE AN AUDIENCE, 388 00:19:29,035 --> 00:19:32,036 TO CAPTURE THEIR MINDS, THEIR EYES, THEIR ATTENTION 389 00:19:32,038 --> 00:19:34,605 AND THEIR HEARTS ALL AT THE SAME TIME. 390 00:19:34,607 --> 00:19:37,241 AND HE USED THAT TO GREAT EFFECT. 391 00:19:37,243 --> 00:19:40,244 AND HE GOT BETTER AND BETTER AT IT AS HE BECAME MORE 392 00:19:40,246 --> 00:19:43,581 AND MORE POWERFUL WITHIN THE GERMAN GOVERNMENT. 393 00:19:43,583 --> 00:19:45,283 HITLER DIDN'T REALLY USE MAGIC, 394 00:19:45,285 --> 00:19:47,919 ALTHOUGH IS HOLD OVER PEOPLE WAS ALMOST MAGICAL. 395 00:19:47,921 --> 00:19:49,820 AND I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT THING TO BEAR IN MIND, 396 00:19:49,822 --> 00:19:54,392 THAT HITLER PRESENTED HIMSELF AND WAS PRESENTED, 397 00:19:54,394 --> 00:19:56,294 AS A KIND OF MESSIANIC FIGURE. 398 00:19:56,296 --> 00:19:58,196 AND WHAT DO MESSIANIC FIGURES HAVE TO HAVE? 399 00:19:58,198 --> 00:19:59,597 IT'S NOT JUST CHARISMA, 400 00:19:59,599 --> 00:20:03,634 BUT THEY ALSO HAVE TO HAVE THIS SENSE OF OTHER-WORLDLINESS. 401 00:20:03,636 --> 00:20:05,536 Felix: SO WAS IT JUST CHARISMA? 402 00:20:05,538 --> 00:20:06,837 BUT IF IT WAS, SURELY THAT 403 00:20:06,839 --> 00:20:08,506 WOULD HAVE SHOWED MUCH EARLIER IN HIS LIFE. 404 00:20:08,508 --> 00:20:10,041 YOU DON'T JUST LEARN THAT. 405 00:20:10,043 --> 00:20:11,809 YOU'VE GOT IT OR YOU HAVEN'T. 406 00:20:11,811 --> 00:20:14,745 SO IT MUST BE SOMETHING SURROUNDED AS HE WAS, 407 00:20:14,747 --> 00:20:16,547 WITH ALL OF THIS OCCULT, 408 00:20:16,549 --> 00:20:20,818 WITH DOWSES AND TAROT CARDS AND MEDIUMS AND THEN PERHAPS 409 00:20:20,820 --> 00:20:24,222 HE BECAME SOME FORM OF CONDUIT FOR THE WHOLE THING. 410 00:20:24,224 --> 00:20:27,558 AND PERHAPS HITLER REALLY WAS POSSESSED 411 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:32,697 BY SOMETHING TO DO WITH SATAN OR THE DEVIL 412 00:20:32,699 --> 00:20:34,966 OR SOME OTHER DEITY OF SOME SORT. 413 00:20:34,968 --> 00:20:36,434 PERHAPS IT'S REAL. 414 00:20:36,436 --> 00:20:43,808 [ SHOUTING IN GERMAN ] 415 00:20:43,810 --> 00:20:46,577 Narrator: SO WAS HITLER REALLY CHANNELING DEMONIC FORCES 416 00:20:46,579 --> 00:20:48,813 DURING THE INFAMOUS NAZI RALLIES? 417 00:20:48,815 --> 00:20:50,982 OR IS THERE ANOTHER EXPLANATION? 418 00:20:50,984 --> 00:20:54,518 NEIL TOBIN IS A CHICAGO BORN PLAYWRIGHT AND PERFORMER. 419 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:58,956 IN 2015 TOBIN WROTE A PLAY ABOUT ARCH-NAZI OCCULTIST 420 00:20:58,958 --> 00:21:00,358 ERIC YON HENDERSON, 421 00:21:00,360 --> 00:21:04,629 THE MAN CREDITED WITH TEACHING HITLER MASS HYPNOSIS. 422 00:21:04,631 --> 00:21:09,000 ERIC YON HENDERSON WAS THE MOST POPULAR PSYCHIC ENTERTAINER 423 00:21:09,002 --> 00:21:11,035 IN GERMANY PRE WORLD WAR II. 424 00:21:11,037 --> 00:21:15,506 HE CONDUCTED PERFORMANCES THAT INCORPORATED HYPNOTISM. 425 00:21:15,508 --> 00:21:18,909 HE WAS A TELEPATHIST... HE READ MINDS. 426 00:21:18,911 --> 00:21:22,246 HE MADE PREDICTIONS. 427 00:21:22,248 --> 00:21:27,318 HE FILLED THE LARGEST PERFORMANCE SPACES IN EUROPE. 428 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,787 Picknett: HE WAS VERY POPULAR WITH THE NAZIS MAINLY 429 00:21:29,789 --> 00:21:31,622 BECAUSE IT IS SAID AT LEAST, 430 00:21:31,624 --> 00:21:35,893 THAT HE WAS HITLER'S TEACHER IN ONE SENSE. 431 00:21:35,895 --> 00:21:37,395 HE TAUGHT HIM STAGE CRAFT. 432 00:21:37,397 --> 00:21:40,197 HE TAUGHT HIM HOW TO HOLD AN AUDIENCE 433 00:21:40,199 --> 00:21:41,465 IN THE PALM OF YOUR HANDS. 434 00:21:41,467 --> 00:21:42,833 HOW TO LOOK THEM IN THE EYE. 435 00:21:42,835 --> 00:21:44,869 HOW TO MESMERIZE THEM. 436 00:21:44,871 --> 00:21:52,109 [ SHOUTING IN GERMAN ] 437 00:21:52,111 --> 00:21:54,211 WHEN WE LOOK AT THE NEWSREEL FOOTAGE, 438 00:21:54,213 --> 00:21:57,348 OF HITLER AT ONE OF THE GREAT RALLIES, 439 00:21:57,350 --> 00:21:59,183 YOU SEE HOW HE USES HIS BODY. 440 00:21:59,185 --> 00:22:01,319 YOU HEAR HOW HE, EVEN IF YOU DON'T KNOW GERMAN, 441 00:22:01,321 --> 00:22:03,621 YOU HEAR HOW HE USES HIS VOICE FOR EMPHASIS. 442 00:22:03,623 --> 00:22:05,756 YOU SEE THE BROAD GESTURES, 443 00:22:05,758 --> 00:22:11,929 THE SENSE OF DRAMA THAT CAN CARRY THROUGH AN IMMENSE SPACE. 444 00:22:11,931 --> 00:22:16,434 AND ONE HAS TO THINK THAT THAT DID NOT JUST HAPPEN BY ACCIDENT. 445 00:22:16,436 --> 00:22:20,037 [ SHOUTING IN GERMAN ] 446 00:22:20,039 --> 00:22:23,808 [ CHEERING ] 447 00:22:23,810 --> 00:22:25,976 Dr. Bellinger: THE INTERESTING THING, ERIC YON HENDERSON 448 00:22:25,978 --> 00:22:29,013 WAS NOT THE DANISH PERSON HE CLAIMED TO BE. 449 00:22:29,015 --> 00:22:31,916 HE WAS IN FACT JEWISH AND HE WAS PLAYING WITH FIRE. 450 00:22:31,918 --> 00:22:33,784 ONE WOULD HAVE THOUGHT HE WOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER. 451 00:22:33,786 --> 00:22:36,253 Gough: THE FACT THAT YON HENDERSON WAS FOUND MURDERED 452 00:22:36,255 --> 00:22:39,223 WITH A BULLET THROUGH THE BACK AND THE HEAD, 453 00:22:39,225 --> 00:22:41,692 IS PROBABLY DUE TO SEVERAL THINGS. 454 00:22:41,694 --> 00:22:44,895 ONE, THE DISCOVERY THAT HE WAS JEWISH. 455 00:22:44,897 --> 00:22:49,233 TWO, HE WAS SO WEALTHY THAT PROMINENT PLAYERS 456 00:22:49,235 --> 00:22:52,636 IN THE NAZI PARTY, OWED HIM A LOT OF MONEY. 457 00:22:52,638 --> 00:22:58,442 AND ALSO HE HAD PERHAPS BECOME TOO INFLUENTIAL WITH HITLER. 458 00:22:58,444 --> 00:23:02,046 SO THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN THIS ISSUE OF JEALOUSY. 459 00:23:02,048 --> 00:23:03,647 SO THERE WERE MANY MOTIVES 460 00:23:03,649 --> 00:23:06,717 WHY THE NAZIS WOULD WANT TO HAVE HIM MURDERED. 461 00:23:08,788 --> 00:23:11,622 Narrator: IN 1939, WAR BROKE OUT, 462 00:23:11,624 --> 00:23:14,091 BUT THE NAZIS WEREN'T JUST USING BULLETS AND BOMBS 463 00:23:14,093 --> 00:23:15,459 AGAINST THE ALLIES. 464 00:23:15,461 --> 00:23:18,796 THEY ALSO ENLISTED THE POWER OF DARK FORCES. 465 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:28,606 ¶ 466 00:23:28,608 --> 00:23:31,942 Narrator: IN 1939, WAR FINALLY BROKE OUT 467 00:23:31,944 --> 00:23:34,011 AND THE NAZIS FORCES OF DARKNESS, 468 00:23:34,013 --> 00:23:37,281 FUELED BY THE TWISTED OCCULT IDEOLOGY OF ARIANISM, 469 00:23:37,283 --> 00:23:38,582 INVADED EUROPE. 470 00:23:38,584 --> 00:23:41,419 MISSILES WERE LAUNCHED, AND BOMBS DROPPED. 471 00:23:41,421 --> 00:23:44,488 BUT IN HIDDEN BUNKERS, A MUCH MORE SINISTER FORCE 472 00:23:44,490 --> 00:23:47,558 WAS BEING PUT TO WORK... WITCHCRAFT. 473 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,428 Felix: THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE ALLIES AND THE GERMANS, 474 00:23:50,430 --> 00:23:54,031 THE NAZIS, WAS THAT WE WERE USING RADAR 475 00:23:54,033 --> 00:23:56,467 TO FIND THEIR SUBMARINES AND THEIR PLANES. 476 00:23:56,469 --> 00:23:58,936 THEY WERE USING DOWSING PENDULUMS, 477 00:23:58,938 --> 00:24:02,540 THAT'S A PIECE OF STRING WITH A BIT OF BRASS ON THE END OF IT, 478 00:24:02,542 --> 00:24:04,008 OR SOME QUARTZ CRYSTAL. 479 00:24:04,010 --> 00:24:09,246 THEY WERE DANGLING IT OVER A MAP AND LOOKING FOR OUR SUBMARINES. 480 00:24:09,248 --> 00:24:13,317 Dr. Selwood: HITLER EVEN BROUGHT THESE FADDY BELIEFS INTO BATTLE PLANNING. 481 00:24:13,319 --> 00:24:15,653 INSTEAD OF USING INTELLIGENCE AND SPOTTER PLANES 482 00:24:15,655 --> 00:24:16,987 AND ALL THE NORMAL THINGS, 483 00:24:16,989 --> 00:24:19,890 HITLER HAD TEAMS OF DOWSERS AND BIZARRELY, 484 00:24:19,892 --> 00:24:22,092 IT ACTUALLY SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL ON MORE OCCASIONS 485 00:24:22,094 --> 00:24:23,828 THAN YOU WOULD IMAGINE. 486 00:24:23,830 --> 00:24:25,796 Gough: THE NAZIS WERE SO IMPRESSED, 487 00:24:25,798 --> 00:24:29,967 IT INSPIRED THEM TO TAKE THE OCCULT FAR MORE SERIOUS 488 00:24:29,969 --> 00:24:34,038 AND REALLY PUT A LOT OF MONEY INTO THAT DIVISION OF THE SS. 489 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,540 SO THEY CREATED THIS ORGANIZATION 490 00:24:36,542 --> 00:24:39,710 CALLED THE INSTITUTE FOR OCCULT WARFARE. 491 00:24:39,712 --> 00:24:44,114 FULL OF MEDIUMS AND PSYCHICS WHO ARE USING ALL THESE STRANGE 492 00:24:44,116 --> 00:24:48,486 OCCULT POWERS TO FEND OFF THE WEST. 493 00:24:48,488 --> 00:24:50,754 McMahon: IN THE LAST DESPERATE STAGES OF THE WAR, 494 00:24:50,756 --> 00:24:55,693 THE NAZIS EVEN RELEASED THOUSANDS OF ASTROLOGERS 495 00:24:55,695 --> 00:24:59,163 AND MAGICIANS AND DOWSERS FROM CONCENTRATION CAMPS, 496 00:24:59,165 --> 00:25:01,932 TRYING TO HELP HITLER WIN THE WAR. 497 00:25:01,934 --> 00:25:07,705 ¶ 498 00:25:07,707 --> 00:25:10,741 Narrator: AS THE NAZI FORCES OF DARKNESS RAVAGED EUROPE, 499 00:25:10,743 --> 00:25:12,910 HITLER HAD HIS SIGHTS SET ON ENGLAND. 500 00:25:12,912 --> 00:25:15,646 THE LUFTWAFFE DROPPED THOUSANDS OF BOMBS. 501 00:25:15,648 --> 00:25:19,550 CHILDREN WERE EVACUATED AND FEAR AND CHAOS SHROUDED BRITAIN 502 00:25:19,552 --> 00:25:21,752 LIKE A GREAT DARK CLOUD. 503 00:25:21,754 --> 00:25:26,357 BUT BENEATH THE SURFACE, AN OCCULT WAR WAS BEING WAGED TOO. 504 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:27,725 Gough: IT'S FASCINATING WHEN YOU REALIZE 505 00:25:27,727 --> 00:25:31,262 THAT THERE WAS THIS SECRET OCCULT WAR GOING ON 506 00:25:31,264 --> 00:25:33,464 AND IT DIDN'T TAKE LONG FOR THE ALLIES 507 00:25:33,466 --> 00:25:39,336 TO REALIZE THAT THE GERMANS WERE USING MAGIC, MAP DOWSING, 508 00:25:39,338 --> 00:25:42,506 AND WITH GREAT ACCURACY, FINDING THEIR SHIPS. 509 00:25:42,508 --> 00:25:43,941 SO WHAT DID THEY DO? 510 00:25:43,943 --> 00:25:47,845 THEY HAD TO RETALIATE WITH SOME OCCULT MAGIC OF THEIR OWN. 511 00:25:47,847 --> 00:25:50,614 SO THEY ARE ALLEGED TO HAVE ENLISTED 512 00:25:50,616 --> 00:25:53,551 THE MOST FAMOUS OCCULTIST IN BRITAIN, 513 00:25:53,553 --> 00:25:58,789 ALISTAIR CROWLEY WHO IS SAID TO HAVE HELPED CHURCHILL 514 00:25:58,791 --> 00:26:02,593 BY GIVING HIM THE V FOR VICTORY SYMBOL. 515 00:26:02,595 --> 00:26:05,462 AS FAR AS I KNOW, BRITISH INTELLIGENCE 516 00:26:05,464 --> 00:26:09,767 DID RECRUIT ALISTAIR CROWLEY TO HELP THEM IN THE SAME WAY 517 00:26:09,769 --> 00:26:12,036 AS THE GERMANS WERE DOING AGAINST US. 518 00:26:12,038 --> 00:26:16,740 IT WAS ALISTAIR CROWLEY'S IDEA TO COMBAT THE NORDIC RUNES 519 00:26:16,742 --> 00:26:18,008 THAT THE GERMANS WERE USING, 520 00:26:18,010 --> 00:26:20,711 THEY CAME UP WITH THE VICTORY V SIGN TO SORT OF, 521 00:26:20,713 --> 00:26:23,414 FOR WANT OF A BETTER WORD, POINT AT THE GERMANS, 522 00:26:23,416 --> 00:26:28,018 WHEN THEY WERE POINTING THEIR RUNIC DEVICES AT US. 523 00:26:28,020 --> 00:26:29,954 Narrator: BUT IT WASN'T JUST BRITISH INTELLIGENCE 524 00:26:29,956 --> 00:26:31,589 WHO BEGAN USING MAGIC. 525 00:26:31,591 --> 00:26:33,490 IN THE FORESTS OF SOUTHERN ENGLAND, 526 00:26:33,492 --> 00:26:36,493 A COVEN OF WITCHES TOOK IT UPON THEMSELVES TO GATHER 527 00:26:36,495 --> 00:26:39,930 AND PERFORM A RITUAL CALLED THE CONE OF POWER, 528 00:26:39,932 --> 00:26:43,033 IN AN ATTEMPT TO STOP THE IMMINENT NAZI INVASION. 529 00:26:43,035 --> 00:26:45,102 Picknett: OPERATION... CONE OF POWER, 530 00:26:45,104 --> 00:26:49,473 WAS BASICALLY A BUNCH OF MODERN WITCHES 531 00:26:49,475 --> 00:26:51,241 GETTING TOGETHER IN THE NEW FOREST, 532 00:26:51,243 --> 00:26:53,877 UNDER THE GUIDANCE OF GERALD GARDNER 533 00:26:53,879 --> 00:26:56,313 WHO MORE OR LESS CREATED MODERN WICCA, 534 00:26:56,315 --> 00:27:02,987 TO DO A RITUAL TO PREVENT THE NAZIS FROM INVADING BRITAIN. 535 00:27:02,989 --> 00:27:05,623 Narrator: PHILIP HESELTON IS PART OF THAT ANCIENT ORDER 536 00:27:05,625 --> 00:27:07,891 OF WITCHES OR WICCA. 537 00:27:07,893 --> 00:27:10,527 HE HAS SPENT DECADES RESEARCHING WHAT HAPPENED 538 00:27:10,529 --> 00:27:13,063 ON THE NIGHT OF THE CONE OF POWER. 539 00:27:13,065 --> 00:27:19,603 Heselton: WE DON'T KNOW HOW OR WHERE, THIS RITUAL TOOK PLACE. 540 00:27:19,605 --> 00:27:24,675 GERALD SAID "WE WERE TAKEN AT NIGHT TO A PLACE IN THE FOREST." 541 00:27:24,677 --> 00:27:28,212 IT WOULD BE IN THE FOREST, IT WOULDN'T BE ANY OPEN AIR. 542 00:27:28,214 --> 00:27:33,851 IT WOULD BE HOWEVER, A CLEARING, SOMETHING LIKE THIS, I RECKON. 543 00:27:33,853 --> 00:27:38,489 SO THAT THEY HAD ENOUGH SPACE TO DO WHAT WAS A REALLY BIG RITUAL. 544 00:27:42,695 --> 00:27:46,764 APPARENTLY, THEY HAD 17 PEOPLE AND THEY HELD HANDS. 545 00:27:46,766 --> 00:27:50,868 RUSHING FORWARD AND AT THE SAME TIME, 546 00:27:50,870 --> 00:27:56,106 GIVING THE WORDING WHICH WAS SOMETHING LIKE, 547 00:27:56,108 --> 00:27:59,376 YOU CANNOT CROSS THE SEA, NOT ABLE TO COME, 548 00:27:59,378 --> 00:28:02,246 NOT ABLE TO COME, YOU CANNOT CROSS THE SEA. 549 00:28:02,248 --> 00:28:05,049 AND THEY REPEATED THAT. 550 00:28:05,051 --> 00:28:08,485 AND IT WASN'T JUST WORDS, IT WAS THE MIND POWER 551 00:28:08,487 --> 00:28:13,791 WAS CONCENTRATED AND WORKING TOGETHER 552 00:28:13,793 --> 00:28:16,560 AND THEY CREATED THIS, 553 00:28:16,562 --> 00:28:18,495 WHAT THEY CALLED A CONE OF POWER. 554 00:28:18,497 --> 00:28:21,632 IT WASN'T PHYSICAL, YOU COULDN'T SEE IT. 555 00:28:21,634 --> 00:28:24,501 BUT IT WAS THERE ON THE PSYCHIC LEVEL 556 00:28:24,503 --> 00:28:26,904 AND WAS SENT OVER SPECIFICALLY, 557 00:28:26,906 --> 00:28:34,378 TO THE GERMAN HIGH COMMAND, TO CHANGE THEIR THINKING. 558 00:28:34,380 --> 00:28:38,148 OF COURSE THE HUMAN MIND IS ONE OF THE MOST FLEXIBLE THINGS. 559 00:28:38,150 --> 00:28:41,852 IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S EASIER TO WORK MAGIC WITH. 560 00:28:44,890 --> 00:28:47,958 Narrator: JANET FARRAR IS A WICCAN HIGH PRIESTESS 561 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,960 AND IS ONE OF THE WORLD'S LEADING EXPERTS 562 00:28:49,962 --> 00:28:52,262 AND TEACHERS OF WITCHCRAFT. 563 00:28:52,264 --> 00:28:57,101 JANET HAS PERFORMED THE CONE OF POWER RITUAL MULTIPLE TIMES. 564 00:28:57,103 --> 00:28:59,303 Farrar: RITUAL IS A DRAMA. 565 00:28:59,305 --> 00:29:03,006 NOW WITCHCRAFT IS NOT JUST ABOUT RITUAL. 566 00:29:03,008 --> 00:29:05,876 IT'S ABOUT THE EQUIVALENT I SUPPOSE, 567 00:29:05,878 --> 00:29:07,745 OF IN CHRISTIAN TERMS, PRAYER. 568 00:29:07,747 --> 00:29:09,580 THAT'S WHAT MAGIC IS. 569 00:29:09,582 --> 00:29:11,615 IT'S WHEN YOU TRANSPORT YOUR MIND 570 00:29:11,617 --> 00:29:12,883 TO A PLACE WHERE YOU SAY 571 00:29:12,885 --> 00:29:16,854 "I KNOW THIS CAN BE MADE TO HAPPEN." 572 00:29:16,856 --> 00:29:19,890 WHEN YOU PERFORM THE DANCE OF THE CONE OF POWER, 573 00:29:19,892 --> 00:29:21,692 IT FEELS AS IF YOU'RE FLOATING, 574 00:29:21,694 --> 00:29:24,528 AS IF YOU'RE ABOUT SIX INCHES OFF THE GROUND. 575 00:29:24,530 --> 00:29:28,732 AND THERE'S A SENSATION THAT, 576 00:29:28,734 --> 00:29:31,268 NO MATTER HOW FAST YOU'RE DANCING, 577 00:29:31,270 --> 00:29:33,904 THAT YOU'RE MOVING TWICE AS FAST. 578 00:29:33,906 --> 00:29:37,541 AND SOMETIMES YOU GET THE VERY STRANGE EFFECT, 579 00:29:37,543 --> 00:29:39,576 TIME STANDS COMPLETELY STILL. 580 00:29:42,014 --> 00:29:44,715 AND IT'S AS IF THAT CONE OF POWER STOPS TIME. 581 00:29:44,717 --> 00:29:47,251 YOU FEEL TOTALLY ELATED FROM IT, 582 00:29:47,253 --> 00:29:49,153 TOTALLY IN HARMONY WITH THE UNIVERSE, 583 00:29:49,155 --> 00:29:51,622 TOTALLY ELATED INSIDE YOURSELF AND OF COURSE 584 00:29:51,624 --> 00:29:55,626 THIS IS WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED TO THE COVEN IN THE NEW FOREST. 585 00:29:55,628 --> 00:29:57,194 THEY WOULD HAVE ACHIEVED WHAT THEY WANTED. 586 00:29:57,196 --> 00:29:58,662 THEY'D HAVE GONE HOME THAT NIGHT, 587 00:29:58,664 --> 00:30:01,031 PROBABLY MADE SOME HOT CHOCOLATE AND GONE TO BED. 588 00:30:01,033 --> 00:30:03,100 FORGOTTEN ALL ABOUT IT, DON'T TALK ABOUT IT, 589 00:30:03,102 --> 00:30:06,069 DON'T DISCUSS IT AMONGST OURSELVES, IT'S DONE. 590 00:30:06,071 --> 00:30:07,805 IT'S THE FULL STOP. 591 00:30:07,807 --> 00:30:11,175 IT'S THE TELEGRAM THAT'S BEEN SENT. 592 00:30:11,177 --> 00:30:15,012 Narrator: WITH THE ALLIES NOW FIGHTING BACK USING MAGIC, IN GERMANY, 593 00:30:15,014 --> 00:30:17,281 HIMMLER HAD EVEN GRANDER PLANS. 594 00:30:17,283 --> 00:30:19,750 TO BUILD A GIANT NAZI FORTRESS, 595 00:30:19,752 --> 00:30:23,120 BASED ON THE MYTHOLOGICAL KING ARTHUR'S CAMELOT. 596 00:30:25,224 --> 00:30:33,224 ¶ 597 00:30:34,733 --> 00:30:36,700 Narrator: IN THE MIDST OF WORLD WAR II, 598 00:30:36,702 --> 00:30:39,036 A SECRET OCCULT WAR WAS BEING WAGED 599 00:30:39,038 --> 00:30:42,573 BETWEEN THE RUTHLESS NAZIS AND THE ALLIES. 600 00:30:42,575 --> 00:30:44,808 McMahon: BRITISH INTELLIGENCE WAS AWARE OF HITLER 601 00:30:44,810 --> 00:30:47,778 AND HIMMLER'S RATHER DARK OBSESSION WITH THE OCCULT. 602 00:30:47,780 --> 00:30:51,849 SO MUCH SO, THAT THEY TRIED TO USE THE OCCULT AGAINST THE NAZIS 603 00:30:51,851 --> 00:30:55,485 AND ONE OF THE THINGS THEY DID WAS CREATING A FAKE MAGAZINE, 604 00:30:55,487 --> 00:30:58,021 GERMAN OCCULT MAGAZINE CALLED ZENIT 605 00:30:58,023 --> 00:31:00,290 WHICH WAS CIRCULATED WITHIN GERMANY, 606 00:31:00,292 --> 00:31:02,593 WITH DARK ASTROLOGICAL PREDICTIONS 607 00:31:02,595 --> 00:31:04,428 AGAINST HITLER AND HIMMLER. 608 00:31:04,430 --> 00:31:08,265 AND SUGGESTIONS FRAMED IN AN ASTROLOGICAL KIND OF WAY, 609 00:31:08,267 --> 00:31:12,135 THAT GERMANY WAS BOUND TO LOSE THE WAR. 610 00:31:12,137 --> 00:31:16,073 Narrator: WITH THE ALLIES NOW ATTEMPTING TO DISPEL THE NAZIS USING MAGIC, 611 00:31:16,075 --> 00:31:18,675 HEINRICH HIMMLER, HITLER'S RIGHT HAND MAN, 612 00:31:18,677 --> 00:31:21,545 WAS STEPPING THINGS UP BACK IN GERMANY. 613 00:31:21,547 --> 00:31:24,448 ERIC KURLANDER IS AN ACADEMIC AND HISTORIAN, 614 00:31:24,450 --> 00:31:27,284 WHO HAS SPENT YEARS RESEARCHING NAZI OCCULTISM 615 00:31:27,286 --> 00:31:30,520 AND HE BELIEVES THAT WEWELSBURG CASTLE IS THE KEY 616 00:31:30,522 --> 00:31:33,757 TO UNDERSTANDING HIMMLER'S BIZARRE CHIVALRIC BELIEFS 617 00:31:33,759 --> 00:31:36,560 CONNECTED TO THE MYTHOLOGICAL KING ARTHUR. 618 00:31:36,562 --> 00:31:38,829 Kurlander: SO, WE'RE ON OUR WAY TO A CASTLE 619 00:31:38,831 --> 00:31:41,031 KNOWN AS THE WEWELSBURG AND HIMMLER, 620 00:31:41,033 --> 00:31:44,001 WHEN HE SAW THE CASTLE FOR THE FIRST TIME, 621 00:31:44,003 --> 00:31:46,603 AND HE CONSULTED WITH OTHER SS LEADERS 622 00:31:46,605 --> 00:31:50,073 ABOUT WHETHER THIS WOULD BE THE RIGHT PLACE TO CREATE 623 00:31:50,075 --> 00:31:51,808 AN ORDER CASTLE FOR THE SS, 624 00:31:51,810 --> 00:31:56,780 A PLACE FOR SS EDUCATION, SS INDOCTRINATION 625 00:31:56,782 --> 00:32:01,385 AND EVENTUALLY ALMOST A KIND OF RELIGIOUS CENTER FOR THE SS. 626 00:32:01,387 --> 00:32:04,154 Dr. Selwood: THE ULTIMATE STATEMENT OF HIMMLER'S OCCULT, 627 00:32:04,156 --> 00:32:07,925 CHIVALRIC BELIEFS, WAS WEWELSBURG CASTLE. 628 00:32:07,927 --> 00:32:09,593 HE PURCHASED THIS AND WANTED TO TURN IT 629 00:32:09,595 --> 00:32:11,995 INTO THE CULT CENTER OF THE SS. 630 00:32:11,997 --> 00:32:14,298 THERE WAS A ROOM IN THE BASEMENT WITH PLACES FOR 631 00:32:14,300 --> 00:32:17,234 THE 12 KNIGHTS OF THE SS WHO ALL HAD DEATH'S HEAD RINGS. 632 00:32:17,236 --> 00:32:20,470 THERE WERE ROOMS ABOVE WITH SOLAR SUNS ON THE FLOOR, 633 00:32:20,472 --> 00:32:24,574 BLACK SUNS FOR OCCULT CEREMONIES AND SS WEDDINGS. 634 00:32:24,576 --> 00:32:28,745 IT WAS TO BE THE TIP OF A SPEAR, THE TOP OF A COSMIC SPIRIT 635 00:32:28,747 --> 00:32:32,883 THAT WOULD BE THE SPIRITUAL CENTER OF THE SS CULT. 636 00:32:32,885 --> 00:32:36,687 WEWELSBURG WAS THE HEART OF HIMMLER'S VISION OF THE SS. 637 00:32:36,689 --> 00:32:41,892 ¶ 638 00:32:41,894 --> 00:32:44,461 Narrator: KIRSTEN JOHN-STUCKE IS THE MUSEUM CURATOR 639 00:32:44,463 --> 00:32:48,065 AT WEWELSBURG CASTLE, AN EXPERT ON IT'S DARK HISTORY. 640 00:33:32,211 --> 00:33:34,611 Kurlander: RIGHT. 641 00:33:34,613 --> 00:33:36,880 HIMMLER WANTED HIS CASTLE AT WEWELSBURG 642 00:33:36,882 --> 00:33:39,716 TO BE A KIND OF NAZI CAMELOT 643 00:33:39,718 --> 00:33:41,985 AND THAT WAS HUGELY SIGNIFICANT FOR HIM 644 00:33:41,987 --> 00:33:45,422 BECAUSE HE REVERED THE ARTHURIAN KNIGHTS 645 00:33:45,424 --> 00:33:49,125 AND ALSO THE GERMAN LEGENDARY KNIGHT, PARCIVAL, 646 00:33:49,127 --> 00:33:52,462 AS PEOPLE WHO HAD BEEN ON THE QUEST FOR THE HOLY GRAIL. 647 00:33:52,464 --> 00:33:55,232 AND HE WAS OBSESSED WITH FINDING THE HOLY GRAIL AS WELL BECAUSE, 648 00:33:55,234 --> 00:33:59,302 HE THOUGHT THAT THE GRAIL, IT WASN'T ABOUT JESUS SO MUCH, 649 00:33:59,304 --> 00:34:02,539 AS FINDING A KEY TO THE UNDERLYING TRUTH 650 00:34:02,541 --> 00:34:04,508 ABOUT THE ARYAN RACE. 651 00:34:04,510 --> 00:34:09,679 HIMMLER WAS FASCINATED BY FAIRY TALES OF KING ARTHUR, 652 00:34:09,681 --> 00:34:11,314 THE HOLY GRAIL. 653 00:34:11,316 --> 00:34:16,453 HE WAS ALSO INTO KNIGHTS TEMPLARS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. 654 00:34:16,455 --> 00:34:18,588 HE WAS FASCINATED BY THE NUMBER 12 655 00:34:18,590 --> 00:34:22,559 AND HE HAD 12 SS OFFICERS WHO USED TO, 656 00:34:22,561 --> 00:34:25,195 I SUPPOSE FOR WANT OF A BETTER WORD, ATTEND, 657 00:34:25,197 --> 00:34:26,863 STAND ROUND THE TABLE, 658 00:34:26,865 --> 00:34:30,600 REPRESENTING THE 12 KNIGHTS OF KING ARTHUR. 659 00:34:33,439 --> 00:34:35,405 Narrator: IN THE NORTH TOWER OF THE CASTLE, 660 00:34:35,407 --> 00:34:37,874 IS A VERY STRANGE ROOM INDEED. 661 00:34:37,876 --> 00:34:40,143 ORIGINALLY A CHRISTIAN PRAYER SPACE, 662 00:34:40,145 --> 00:34:43,213 HIMMLER HAD IT REDESIGNED WITH 12 PILLARS 663 00:34:43,215 --> 00:34:47,918 REPRESENTING THE 12 KNIGHTS AND MYSTERIOUS BLACK SUN SYMBOL. 664 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:49,920 Kurlander: BUT IF WE LOOK AT THE PLANS FOR THIS ROOM, 665 00:34:49,922 --> 00:34:52,089 THEY TOOK A SACRED SPACE 666 00:34:52,091 --> 00:34:54,624 FROM THE CHRISTIAN TRADITION OF THIS BUILDING 667 00:34:54,626 --> 00:34:57,727 AND THEY MAPPED ONTO IT A MORE PAGAN RELIGIOUS, 668 00:34:57,729 --> 00:35:01,331 GERMANIC PRE-CHRISTIAN SYMBOLOGY. 669 00:35:01,333 --> 00:35:05,001 AND THAT'S CHARACTERIZED BEST, BY THIS SUN WHEEL. 670 00:35:05,003 --> 00:35:10,140 ZONE AND ROD WITH THE 12 DIFFERENT SIG RUNES. 671 00:35:10,142 --> 00:35:11,608 Walters: THE POINT ABOUT WEWELSBURG, 672 00:35:11,610 --> 00:35:15,378 IT'S HIMMLER'S EFFORT TO TRY AND CREATE A CAMELOT. 673 00:35:15,380 --> 00:35:18,648 YOU KNOW, IF HIMMLER IS ARTHUR, WEWELSBURG IS CAMELOT. 674 00:35:18,650 --> 00:35:21,151 THIS IS WHERE HIS HIGH ORDER OF KNIGHTS, 675 00:35:21,153 --> 00:35:25,122 THE SS, WILL HAVE AS THEIR QUAZI-SPIRITUAL HOME. 676 00:35:25,124 --> 00:35:29,326 AND IT'S FROM THERE THAT EVERY SS MAN'S RING, WHEN HE'S KILLED, 677 00:35:29,328 --> 00:35:32,062 WILL BE SENT BACK TO BE HELD IN ETERNITY. 678 00:35:32,064 --> 00:35:38,468 THESE ARE KIND OF RELIGIOUS, CULTIST CONCEPTS 679 00:35:38,470 --> 00:35:41,304 AND WEWELSBURG WAS THE PERFECT PLACE FOR THAT. 680 00:35:41,306 --> 00:35:45,675 Gough: WEWELSBURG IS A CREEPY PLACE TODAY, IT REALLY IS. 681 00:35:45,677 --> 00:35:47,244 YOU WALK INTO THE NORTH TOWER 682 00:35:47,246 --> 00:35:52,883 AND YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE WALKING INTO AN EVIL, RITUAL CENTER 683 00:35:52,885 --> 00:35:56,953 WHERE GOSH ONLY KNOWS WHAT RITUALS WERE PERFORMED, 684 00:35:56,955 --> 00:35:59,422 BUT YOU HAVE SWASTIKAS EVERYWHERE. 685 00:35:59,424 --> 00:36:01,625 YOU HAVE EAGLES, YOU HAVE A BLACK SUN, 686 00:36:01,627 --> 00:36:04,661 YOU HAVE FIRE MARKS ON THE WALLS. 687 00:36:04,663 --> 00:36:08,598 IT REALLY FEELS LIKE SOMETHING BAD HAD HAPPENED HERE 688 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,568 AND IT'S IMBUED IT WITH THAT SORT OF ENERGY. 689 00:36:11,570 --> 00:36:18,742 ¶ 690 00:36:18,744 --> 00:36:21,244 Kurlander: SO IF WE THINK ABOUT HIMMLER'S PERSONAL JOURNEY, 691 00:36:21,246 --> 00:36:24,948 WE HAVE EVERYTHING THAT HIMMLER ASPIRED TO, 692 00:36:24,950 --> 00:36:27,184 COMING TOGETHER IN THIS SITE. 693 00:36:27,186 --> 00:36:30,954 THE CENTER OF HIS ENTIRE EMPIRE, WHERE HE HOPED AFTER THE WAR, 694 00:36:30,956 --> 00:36:33,356 TO BECOME KIND OF THE SECOND IN COMMAND, 695 00:36:33,358 --> 00:36:36,560 THE SECOND MOST IMPORTANT LEADER OF THIS THIRD REICH, 696 00:36:36,562 --> 00:36:39,729 NEXT TO HITLER, HIS RIGHT HAND MAN. 697 00:36:39,731 --> 00:36:44,167 SO IT'S FITTING THAT WE CONCLUDE OUR JOURNEY AT THE WEWELSBURG, 698 00:36:44,169 --> 00:36:46,136 BECAUSE THE WEWELSBURG BRINGS TOGETHER 699 00:36:46,138 --> 00:36:47,804 ALL THREE OF THE STRAINS THAT KIND OF 700 00:36:47,806 --> 00:36:50,240 MADE UP HIMMLER'S SUPERNATURAL IMAGINARY. 701 00:36:52,411 --> 00:36:54,911 Narrator: WITH THE NAZIS NOW MERCILESSLY BOMBARDING 702 00:36:54,913 --> 00:36:57,380 THE ALLIES WITH BULLETS AND SORCERY, 703 00:36:57,382 --> 00:37:01,318 HITLER WAS ABOUT TO LET HIS BELIEF IN THE OCCULT GO TOO FAR. 704 00:37:03,522 --> 00:37:09,025 ¶ 705 00:37:09,027 --> 00:37:14,598 ¶ 706 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,968 Narrator: THE NAZIS' IDEOLOGY OF RACIAL DISCRIMINATION AND HATE 707 00:37:17,970 --> 00:37:21,972 WAS BUILT ON TWISTED PAGAN MYTHOLOGY AND BLACK MAGIC. 708 00:37:21,974 --> 00:37:26,643 Dr. Selwood: ON ONE LEVEL, ALL THIS NAZI OCCULT ACTIVITY IS DEEPLY SILLY 709 00:37:26,645 --> 00:37:27,877 AND A GREAT DISTRACTION, 710 00:37:27,879 --> 00:37:30,113 BUT ON ANOTHER ACTUALLY, IT'S DEATHLY SERIOUS, 711 00:37:30,115 --> 00:37:33,083 BECAUSE THIS SENSE OF SUPERIORITY, 712 00:37:33,085 --> 00:37:35,385 THIS SENSE OF BEING DESCENDED FROM A GREATER RACE, 713 00:37:35,387 --> 00:37:36,686 A DIFFERENT RACE, A RACE APART, 714 00:37:36,688 --> 00:37:38,455 THEY THOUGHT THEY CAME FROM DIVINE SPERM, 715 00:37:38,457 --> 00:37:40,724 NOT FROM THE APES LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE. 716 00:37:40,726 --> 00:37:44,261 THIS ACTUALLY CREATED A MIND SET THAT WAS CAPABLE OF THE HORRORS 717 00:37:44,263 --> 00:37:46,563 OF THE SECOND WORLD WAR AND ULTIMATELY, 718 00:37:46,565 --> 00:37:49,866 THEIR OWN DEFEAT BY TAKING ON FAR MORE THAN THEY COULD MANAGE. 719 00:37:49,868 --> 00:37:54,938 ¶ 720 00:37:54,940 --> 00:37:59,276 Narrator: AND HITLER'S FAITH IN THE OCCULT WAS ABOUT TO SEAL HIS FATE. 721 00:37:59,278 --> 00:38:02,312 McMahon: HIMMLER'S OBSESSION WITH THE OCCULT 722 00:38:02,314 --> 00:38:04,481 HAD AN APPALLING CONSEQUENCE 723 00:38:04,483 --> 00:38:06,149 WHEN IT CAME TO THE BATTLE OF STALINGRAD, 724 00:38:06,151 --> 00:38:09,853 BECAUSE APPARENTLY, HE TOLD HITLER THAT IT WOULD BE 725 00:38:09,855 --> 00:38:15,392 OKAY HAVING THE GERMAN SOLDIERS MARCHING INTO THE RUSSIAN WINTER 726 00:38:15,394 --> 00:38:19,796 BECAUSE ARYANS COULD WITHSTAND COLD BETTER THAN NON-ARYANS. 727 00:38:19,798 --> 00:38:22,499 WELL THAT PROVED TO BE ENTIRELY FALSE. 728 00:38:24,436 --> 00:38:26,703 Janulis: SO DESPITE BEING FANTASTIC STRATEGISTS, 729 00:38:26,705 --> 00:38:30,473 ENGINEERS, MILITARY ORGANIZERS, 730 00:38:30,475 --> 00:38:34,377 THEY STILL HAD SOME REALLY INTERESTING WAYS 731 00:38:34,379 --> 00:38:35,879 OF APPROACHING DECISION MAKING. 732 00:38:35,881 --> 00:38:38,982 AND ONE OF THEM WAS THAT THEY WERE USING OCCULT 733 00:38:38,984 --> 00:38:40,617 SORT OF PROCESSES 734 00:38:40,619 --> 00:38:45,121 AND THEY BELIEVED THAT THEY COULD INVADE RUSSIA 735 00:38:45,123 --> 00:38:47,390 AND SUCCEED WHERE NAPOLEON FAILED, 736 00:38:47,392 --> 00:38:51,861 BECAUSE THEIR ANCESTRY DATED BACK TO THE HYPERBOREAN CULTURE, 737 00:38:51,863 --> 00:38:54,631 THE NORTHERN CLIMATE, FIERCE PEOPLE. 738 00:38:54,633 --> 00:38:57,367 AND THEY THOUGHT THAT EVEN IF THEY ENDED UP 739 00:38:57,369 --> 00:39:00,103 STUCK IN RUSSIAN WINTER, THEY WERE TOUGH ENOUGH. 740 00:39:00,105 --> 00:39:02,472 THEY HAD THE GENETIC BACKGROUND. 741 00:39:02,474 --> 00:39:05,942 THEY COULD DEAL WITH IT. 742 00:39:05,944 --> 00:39:09,512 IF THE NAZIS HAD STOPPED ALL THIS NONSENSE WITH ASTRONOMY, 743 00:39:09,514 --> 00:39:12,649 ASTROLOGERS, DOWSING, TAROT CARDS, 744 00:39:12,651 --> 00:39:13,883 IF THEY'D STOPPED ALL THAT 745 00:39:13,885 --> 00:39:15,919 AND GOT ON WITH THE WAR PROPERLY, 746 00:39:15,921 --> 00:39:17,754 I THINK THEY'D PROBABLY HAVE BEATEN US. 747 00:39:17,756 --> 00:39:23,660 ¶ 748 00:39:23,662 --> 00:39:29,632 ¶ 749 00:39:29,634 --> 00:39:32,802 Narrator: IN 1945, HITLER COMMITTED SUICIDE 750 00:39:32,804 --> 00:39:34,838 AND NAZI GERMANY SURRENDERED. 751 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,207 MILLIONS HAD BEEN KILLED AND WORLD WAR TWO 752 00:39:37,209 --> 00:39:39,743 WOULD CAST A DARK SHADOW FOREVER 753 00:39:39,745 --> 00:39:42,212 BUT WHAT WENT WRONG FOR THE NAZIS? 754 00:39:42,214 --> 00:39:44,748 HOW DID THEY GET SO CLOSE TO WORLD DOMINATION 755 00:39:44,750 --> 00:39:47,617 ONLY TO FALL SO SPECTACULARLY? 756 00:39:47,619 --> 00:39:49,686 Picknett: CERTAINLY NOT EVERY LAST NAZI 757 00:39:49,688 --> 00:39:51,521 WAS INTO WHAT WE WOULD CALL, THE OCCULT. 758 00:39:51,523 --> 00:39:53,923 IN FACT VERY, VERY FEW OF THEM EVER WERE. 759 00:39:53,925 --> 00:39:59,295 AND EVEN HEINRICH HIMMLER WHO WAS THE GREAT NAZI "OCCULTIST" 760 00:39:59,297 --> 00:40:00,830 WAS MORE REALLY OF A, 761 00:40:00,832 --> 00:40:02,732 WHAT WE WOULD THINK OF, AS A NEW AGER. 762 00:40:02,734 --> 00:40:06,002 MORE MYSTICALLY INCLINED THAN, YOU KNOW, 763 00:40:06,004 --> 00:40:08,004 CASTING DARK SPELLS, ALTHOUGH OF COURSE, 764 00:40:08,006 --> 00:40:10,006 HE WAS A NAZI, HE DIDN'T HAVE TO. 765 00:40:10,008 --> 00:40:12,776 Dr. Selwood: THEY WERE DESPERATELY DARK SIDES TO THIS 766 00:40:12,778 --> 00:40:14,811 OCCULT OBSESSION AS WELL. 767 00:40:14,813 --> 00:40:17,113 THE PLANNING AND EXECUTION OF THE FINAL SOLUTION 768 00:40:17,115 --> 00:40:20,116 WAS LEFT TO THE SS AND THERE'S NO DOUBT 769 00:40:20,118 --> 00:40:24,421 THAT THIS WAS ONE OF THE MOST HORRIFIC ACTS IN MODERN HISTORY, 770 00:40:24,423 --> 00:40:26,856 WAS CARRIED OUT BY PEOPLE WHO BELIEVED 771 00:40:26,858 --> 00:40:28,858 THAT THEY WERE SUPERIOR TO OTHERS. 772 00:40:28,860 --> 00:40:31,995 AND THOSE OCCULT BELIEFS HAD A STRONG COMPONENT 773 00:40:31,997 --> 00:40:34,431 IN CREATING THAT VISION OF THE SS 774 00:40:34,433 --> 00:40:38,168 AS PEOPLE WHO WERE CAPABLE OF, AND ENTITLED TO DO THIS. 775 00:40:39,571 --> 00:40:41,037 Walters: THE NAZI OBSESSION WITH THE OCCULT 776 00:40:41,039 --> 00:40:44,941 IS ONE OF THE REASONS ULTIMATELY WHY PROJECT HITLER, 777 00:40:44,943 --> 00:40:46,910 OR PROJECT THIRD REICH, IF YOU LIKE, 778 00:40:46,912 --> 00:40:49,379 WAS GOING TO BE DOOMED. WHY? 779 00:40:49,381 --> 00:40:53,450 BECAUSE THEY KIND OF SAW THIS IDEA OF A STORY 780 00:40:53,452 --> 00:40:55,218 BEFORE IT EVEN TOOK PLACE. 781 00:40:55,220 --> 00:40:57,120 SO THEY HAD THIS IDEA THAT THERE'S A NARRATIVE 782 00:40:57,122 --> 00:40:58,988 THAT WE'RE GOING TO LAST FOR A THOUSAND YEARS 783 00:40:58,990 --> 00:41:00,990 AND WE'RE GOING TO BUILD THESE ENORMOUS BUILDINGS 784 00:41:00,992 --> 00:41:02,792 AND LEAVE BEHIND ALL THESE RUNES, 785 00:41:02,794 --> 00:41:05,495 AND THIS TEMPLE CALLED WEWELSBURG, EFFECTIVELY. 786 00:41:05,497 --> 00:41:06,796 THEREFORE, YOU KNOW, WE ARE GOING TO BE 787 00:41:06,798 --> 00:41:11,000 THIS NEW KIND OF CULTURE AND CIVILIZATION 788 00:41:11,002 --> 00:41:13,436 THAT HAS IT'S OWN RELIGION AND MYSTICISM. 789 00:41:13,438 --> 00:41:15,038 SO WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS YOU'RE CREATING A NARRATIVE 790 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,273 FOR YOURSELF THAT'S GOING TO GO ON FOR A THOUSAND YEARS. 791 00:41:17,275 --> 00:41:18,641 AND WHAT DOES THAT GIVE YOU? 792 00:41:18,643 --> 00:41:21,711 THAT GIVES YOU AN ENORMOUS SENSE OF ARROGANCE AND HUBRIS. 793 00:41:21,713 --> 00:41:23,146 IT MAKES YOU THINK THAT GENUINELY YOU 794 00:41:23,148 --> 00:41:25,982 ARE GOING TO LAST FOR THAT LONG AND ACTUALLY INSTEAD, 795 00:41:25,984 --> 00:41:27,650 IT DOESN'T REALLY WORK OUT LIKE THAT. 796 00:41:27,652 --> 00:41:30,253 IT GOES FROM 1933 TO 1945, 797 00:41:30,255 --> 00:41:32,255 YOU KNOW, AND IT ENDS WITH A BIG BANG. 798 00:41:32,257 --> 00:41:37,393 ¶ 799 00:41:37,395 --> 00:41:38,962 Farrar: MAGIC IS NEITHER BLACK NOR WHITE. 800 00:41:38,964 --> 00:41:40,663 IT'S LIKE ELECTRICITY. 801 00:41:40,665 --> 00:41:44,501 YOU CAN PLUG IN SOMETHING SO USEFUL OR AN ELECTRIC CHAIR. 802 00:41:44,503 --> 00:41:47,770 THE ENERGY OF THE UNIVERSE IS NEUTRAL. 803 00:41:47,772 --> 00:41:50,840 PEOPLE WHO MISUSE IT, SUCH AS THE NAZIS, 804 00:41:50,842 --> 00:41:54,944 AND, YES, THAT'S BLACK MAGIC, ENDED UP DESTROYING THEMSELVES. 805 00:41:54,946 --> 00:41:58,281 FROM THE MOMENT THEY PUT THE FINGER IN THE SOCKET, 806 00:41:58,283 --> 00:42:01,684 IT WAS THE ELECTRIC CHAIR, ALL THE WAY DOWN THE LINE. 807 00:42:01,708 --> 00:42:04,708 Subtitles Diego Moraes(oakislandtk) www.opensubtitles.org 66785

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