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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,670 --> 00:00:04,737 ♪♪ 2 00:00:04,772 --> 00:00:06,271 Narrator: IT'S ONE OF THE MOST FAMOUS, 3 00:00:06,307 --> 00:00:08,974 HISTORICAL AND RELIGIOUS SITES IN THE WORLD, 4 00:00:09,010 --> 00:00:13,946 BUT WHAT SECRETS DOES THE VATICAN REALLY HAVE? 5 00:00:13,981 --> 00:00:18,083 IN RECENT DECADES, IT'S BEEN ROCKED BY SCANDAL AFTER SCANDAL, 6 00:00:18,119 --> 00:00:21,320 THE VATICAN BANK, CHILD ABUSE 7 00:00:21,355 --> 00:00:22,654 AND MORE RECENTLY, 8 00:00:22,690 --> 00:00:24,223 SERIOUS ACCUSATIONS 9 00:00:24,258 --> 00:00:26,525 AGAINST POPE BENEDICT XVI 10 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:30,229 AND HIS NUMBER TWO, CARDINAL BERTONE. 11 00:00:30,264 --> 00:00:33,632 SO WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON BEHIND CLOSED DOORS, 12 00:00:33,667 --> 00:00:37,436 AND WHAT DOES THE FUTURE HOLD FOR THE VATICAN? 13 00:00:37,471 --> 00:00:40,139 Picknett: HIDDEN IN THE VATICAN, 14 00:00:40,174 --> 00:00:43,042 THEY HAVE A HUGE AMOUNT OF SECRETS. 15 00:00:43,077 --> 00:00:46,578 IT IS POSSIBLE THEY WOULD HAVE THE ARK OF THE COVENANT. 16 00:00:46,614 --> 00:00:48,080 NOBODY KNOWS WHERE IT WENT. 17 00:00:48,115 --> 00:00:51,250 Gough: THE HERETICAL PIECES OF ART, MUSIC, DOCUMENTS, 18 00:00:51,285 --> 00:00:52,718 THAT'S THE BORING STUFF. 19 00:00:52,753 --> 00:00:54,887 THE REAL SECRETS, THOSE ARE RELICS, 20 00:00:54,922 --> 00:00:57,256 THINGS THAT WOULD CAUSE HISTORY TO BE REWRITTEN. 21 00:00:57,291 --> 00:00:59,425 Walters: THERE'S BEEN NO DOUBT THAT THE VATICAN, 22 00:00:59,460 --> 00:01:02,961 DESPITE PROMOTING KINDNESS TO ALL MEN AND CHRISTIANITY, 23 00:01:02,997 --> 00:01:05,097 ALSO HAS ITS DARK SIDE. 24 00:01:05,132 --> 00:01:09,034 Dickie: OVER THE CENTURIES, THE CHURCH HAS ACCUMULATED 25 00:01:09,070 --> 00:01:11,403 DONATIONS AND BUILDINGS. 26 00:01:11,439 --> 00:01:13,939 NOBODY KNOWS HOW MUCH MONEY THE CHURCH HAS GOT, 27 00:01:13,974 --> 00:01:15,874 LEAST OF ALL THE CHURCH. 28 00:01:15,910 --> 00:01:19,244 Howells: CORRUPTION AND PEDOPHILIA HAS LEFT SUCH A MARK 29 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,080 ON THE CREDIBILITY OF THE CHURCH. 30 00:01:21,115 --> 00:01:22,381 I THINK THE VATICAN BANK COULD 31 00:01:22,416 --> 00:01:24,917 ACTUALLY BRING DOWN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. 32 00:01:24,952 --> 00:01:27,920 -- Captions by VITAC -- www.vitac.com 33 00:01:27,955 --> 00:01:30,923 CAPTIONS PAID FOR BY DISCOVERY COMMUNICATIONS 34 00:01:30,958 --> 00:01:38,864 ♪♪ 35 00:01:38,899 --> 00:01:47,773 ♪♪ 36 00:01:47,808 --> 00:01:51,743 Narrator: HAS THE VATICAN COVERED UP SECRETS FOR CENTURIES, 37 00:01:51,779 --> 00:01:55,981 OR IS IT ALL JUST NOISE CREATED BY ITS MANY CRITICS? 38 00:01:56,016 --> 00:01:59,051 THE VATICAN FIRMLY SAY IT'S THE LATTER. 39 00:01:59,086 --> 00:02:01,286 BUT ARE THEY TELLING THE TRUTH? 40 00:02:01,322 --> 00:02:03,722 Man: TENS OF THOUSANDS OF CHILDREN WORLDWIDE 41 00:02:03,757 --> 00:02:05,023 HAVE BEEN ABUSED SYSTEMATICALLY 42 00:02:05,059 --> 00:02:06,525 FOR YEARS WITHIN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. 43 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,428 Woman: THE VATICAN FINANCES STEM FROM CENTURIES OF INTRIGUE, 44 00:02:09,463 --> 00:02:11,463 MYSTERIOUS DEATHS, AND INFLUENCE. 45 00:02:11,499 --> 00:02:14,800 Man #2: REVEREND GABRIELE AMORTH MADE HEADLINES AROUND THE WORLD 46 00:02:14,835 --> 00:02:18,370 RECENTLY WHEN HE SAID THE DEVIL WAS PRESENT IN THE VATICAN. 47 00:02:18,405 --> 00:02:20,239 ♪♪ 48 00:02:20,274 --> 00:02:21,673 Narrator: FOR DECADES NOW, 49 00:02:21,709 --> 00:02:24,176 THE VATICAN HAS BEEN UNDER CONSTANT ATTACK 50 00:02:24,211 --> 00:02:28,480 FROM NEWSPAPERS, AUTHORS, HISTORIANS, AND CRITICS 51 00:02:28,516 --> 00:02:30,115 WHO CLAIM THAT IT'S CORRUPT 52 00:02:30,151 --> 00:02:31,950 AND RIDDLED WITH TWISTED PRIESTS 53 00:02:31,986 --> 00:02:33,552 WHO LIVE IMMORAL 54 00:02:33,587 --> 00:02:38,390 AND SINFUL LIVES BEHIND ITS WALLS. 55 00:02:38,425 --> 00:02:41,426 ALTHOUGH IT VEHEMENTLY DENIES IT, OVER THE YEARS, 56 00:02:41,462 --> 00:02:44,796 IT'S BEEN ACCUSED OF STORING NAZI GOLD BULLION, 57 00:02:44,832 --> 00:02:48,000 LAUNDERING MAFIA MONEY, CHILD ABUSE, 58 00:02:48,035 --> 00:02:50,669 AND EVEN RUNNING SLAVE-LABOR INSTITUTIONS 59 00:02:50,704 --> 00:02:52,004 WITH PROSTITUTES 60 00:02:52,039 --> 00:02:54,173 AND SINGLE MOTHERS IN IRELAND 61 00:02:54,208 --> 00:02:57,943 AT SO-CALLED MAGDALENE LAUNDRIES. 62 00:02:57,978 --> 00:03:01,413 SOME HAVE EVEN ACCUSED IT OF HARBORING SATANIC WORSHIPERS, 63 00:03:01,448 --> 00:03:04,583 INDULGING IN BLACK MAGIC, AND HIDING RELICS, 64 00:03:04,618 --> 00:03:07,753 SUCH AS THE BODY OF JESUS ITSELF. 65 00:03:07,788 --> 00:03:10,222 IT MIGHT SOUND A LITTLE FAR-FETCHED, 66 00:03:10,257 --> 00:03:12,824 BUT ITS ACCUSERS ARE ADAMANT. 67 00:03:12,860 --> 00:03:16,361 ♪♪ 68 00:03:16,397 --> 00:03:18,597 THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT THE VATICAN HAS 69 00:03:18,632 --> 00:03:20,699 AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF SECRETS 70 00:03:20,734 --> 00:03:23,368 BECAUSE THE SIMPLE REASON IT'S BEEN AROUND 71 00:03:23,404 --> 00:03:25,637 FOR HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF YEARS 72 00:03:25,673 --> 00:03:28,874 AT THE NEXUS OF POLITICS, RELIGION. 73 00:03:28,909 --> 00:03:34,213 IT'S THE CENTER OF SO MUCH OF HUMAN BEHAVIOR OVER THAT TIME, 74 00:03:34,248 --> 00:03:36,748 AND THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT THERE HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, 75 00:03:36,784 --> 00:03:40,319 MORE THAN ITS FAIR SHARE OF FINANCIAL SCANDAL, 76 00:03:40,354 --> 00:03:44,122 MORE THAN ITS FAIR SHARE PERHAPS OF ABUSE. 77 00:03:44,158 --> 00:03:48,594 THERE'S A LOT ABOUT THE VATICAN THAT NEEDS CLEANING OUT. 78 00:03:48,629 --> 00:03:50,262 Felix: I MEAN, ON THE OUTSIDE, YOU LOOK AT THE VATICAN. 79 00:03:50,297 --> 00:03:54,166 IT LOOKS A VERY AUSTERE, VERY RELIGIOUS, FANTASTIC PLACE. 80 00:03:54,201 --> 00:03:57,436 BUT TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, IT'S NOTHING BUT THE HOUSE OF FUN. 81 00:03:57,471 --> 00:04:01,006 EVEN BEFORE IT WAS BUILT, STILL UNDERNEATH, 82 00:04:01,041 --> 00:04:03,642 THERE ARE BATH HOUSES, BROTHELS, 83 00:04:03,677 --> 00:04:07,613 AND THE SAME THING APPLIED WITH THE VATICAN. 84 00:04:07,648 --> 00:04:10,382 Narrator: ONE OF THE GREAT MYSTERIES OF THE VATICAN IS 85 00:04:10,417 --> 00:04:14,286 JUST WHAT IS INSIDE ITS INFAMOUS SECRET ARCHIVES 86 00:04:14,321 --> 00:04:16,088 THAT WAS NOT REVEALED 87 00:04:16,123 --> 00:04:20,225 WHEN THEY WERE OFFICIALLY OPENED A DECADE AGO. 88 00:04:20,261 --> 00:04:22,561 PHILIP WILLAN HAS BEEN A VATICAN INSIDER 89 00:04:22,596 --> 00:04:24,196 FOR OVER 30 YEARS. 90 00:04:24,231 --> 00:04:27,866 HE'S REPORTED ON THREE POPES, NUMEROUS SCANDALS 91 00:04:27,901 --> 00:04:31,403 AND KNOWS THE HOLY SEE LIKE THE BACK OF HIS HAND. 92 00:04:31,438 --> 00:04:34,673 BRITISH INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER JAMIE THEAKSTON 93 00:04:34,708 --> 00:04:35,974 WENT TO MEET HIM. 94 00:04:36,010 --> 00:04:38,910 ♪♪ 95 00:04:38,946 --> 00:04:42,581 SO, PHILIP, WHAT IS IN THE SO-CALLED SECRET ARCHIVE? 96 00:04:42,616 --> 00:04:47,586 THE SECRET ARCHIVE IS BASICALLY THE POPE'S PERSONAL ARCHIVE, 97 00:04:47,621 --> 00:04:50,856 SO THE DOCUMENTATION THAT'S GENERATED 98 00:04:50,891 --> 00:04:53,392 IN THE COURSE OF RUNNING THE AFFAIRS 99 00:04:53,427 --> 00:04:58,597 OF THE INTERNATIONAL GLOBAL CHURCH. 100 00:04:58,632 --> 00:05:00,632 Gough: FOR A START, THE VATICAN LIBRARY, 101 00:05:00,668 --> 00:05:03,201 THIS SECRET LIBRARY, WAIT FOR IT, 102 00:05:03,237 --> 00:05:07,372 53 KILOMETERS OF DOCUMENTS. 103 00:05:07,408 --> 00:05:09,941 NOW, THEY SAY THE OLDEST ONE GOES TO THE 8th CENTURY. 104 00:05:09,977 --> 00:05:11,476 ARE WE SUPPOSED TO BELIEVE THAT, REALLY? 105 00:05:11,512 --> 00:05:15,547 53 KILOMETERS OF SECRET DOCUMENTS, 106 00:05:15,582 --> 00:05:20,252 IMAGINE THE TRUTHS THAT ARE HIDDEN IN THOSE. 107 00:05:20,287 --> 00:05:22,187 Walters: OF COURSE, THIS SOUNDS SO EXCITING 108 00:05:22,222 --> 00:05:23,255 TO CONSPIRACY THEORISTS 109 00:05:23,290 --> 00:05:25,457 BECAUSE THEY GO, "WOW, A SECRET ARCHIVE! 110 00:05:25,492 --> 00:05:26,692 WHAT'S IN THERE?" 111 00:05:26,727 --> 00:05:28,093 NOW, YOU'VE GOT TO, FIRST OF ALL, THINK, 112 00:05:28,128 --> 00:05:30,696 THE VATICAN SECRET ARCHIVE IN LATIN 113 00:05:30,731 --> 00:05:32,631 HAS THE WORD "SECRETUM" IN IT, 114 00:05:32,666 --> 00:05:34,833 WHICH IS TRANSLATED BY SOME "A SECRET." 115 00:05:34,868 --> 00:05:37,202 YOU CAN JUST TRANSLATE THAT AS "PRIVATE." 116 00:05:37,237 --> 00:05:39,738 AND ACTUALLY, THAT IS A MORE ACCURATE TRANSLATION 117 00:05:39,773 --> 00:05:41,673 OF THE LATIN WORD "SECRETUM." 118 00:05:41,709 --> 00:05:44,343 IT MEANS IT'S THE VATICAN'S PRIVATE ARCHIVE. 119 00:05:44,378 --> 00:05:46,712 ♪♪ 120 00:05:46,747 --> 00:05:49,815 Dr. Papadopoulos: NO ONE REALLY KNOWS WHAT'S IN THE SECRET ARCHIVES, 121 00:05:49,850 --> 00:05:51,149 BUT CERTAINLY ONE WOULD ASSUME 122 00:05:51,185 --> 00:05:52,784 THAT THERE'S SOMETHING TO DO THERE 123 00:05:52,820 --> 00:05:54,820 WITH THINGS LIKE THE ARK OF THE COVENANT 124 00:05:54,855 --> 00:06:00,325 OR THE RAIDING BY THE TEMPLARS OF KING SOLOMON'S MINES. 125 00:06:00,361 --> 00:06:01,993 YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALWAYS CONTENTION 126 00:06:02,029 --> 00:06:03,395 AROUND JESUS' BLOODLINE. 127 00:06:03,430 --> 00:06:05,731 ONE WONDERS IF THERE'S SOMETHING IN THERE AROUND THAT. 128 00:06:05,766 --> 00:06:09,368 SO CERTAINLY, ALL OF THOSE KIND OF KEY THEMES 129 00:06:09,403 --> 00:06:10,969 THAT THE CHURCH IS BASED ON, 130 00:06:11,004 --> 00:06:13,238 ALL OF THE STORIES THAT HAVE BEEN TOLD, 131 00:06:13,273 --> 00:06:15,874 PEOPLE WONDER, AND IT'S NOT SURPRISING. 132 00:06:15,909 --> 00:06:17,509 PEOPLE WONDER IF THERE'S ANYTHING 133 00:06:17,544 --> 00:06:18,810 IN THOSE SECRET ARCHIVES 134 00:06:18,846 --> 00:06:21,813 THAT MIGHT GO AGAINST WHAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TAUGHT 135 00:06:21,849 --> 00:06:24,015 AND TOLD ALL THESE YEARS. 136 00:06:24,051 --> 00:06:32,958 ♪♪ 137 00:06:32,993 --> 00:06:36,194 Narrator: JAMIE'S NEXT STOP IS A SIT-DOWN WITH THE EDITOR 138 00:06:36,230 --> 00:06:39,364 OF "THE HERETIC MAGAZINE," ANDREW GOUGH, 139 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:43,668 WHO HAS STUDIED THE HISTORY OF THE VATICAN FOR MANY YEARS. 140 00:06:43,704 --> 00:06:45,937 HE BELIEVES THAT THERE IS A BASIC PROBLEM 141 00:06:45,973 --> 00:06:47,773 AT THE HEART OF CHRISTIANITY 142 00:06:47,808 --> 00:06:49,608 THAT HAS AFFECTED ALL ITS ACTIONS 143 00:06:49,643 --> 00:06:52,077 FOR WELL OVER A MILLENNIUM, 144 00:06:52,112 --> 00:06:56,114 THAT PERHAPS IT'S ALL NOTHING MORE THAN A MYTH. 145 00:06:56,150 --> 00:06:58,884 ♪♪ 146 00:06:58,919 --> 00:07:01,219 Theakston: I'VE HEARD ALL THE DIFFERENT RUMORS. 147 00:07:01,255 --> 00:07:03,321 BUT WHAT DO YOU THINK IS HIDDEN 148 00:07:03,357 --> 00:07:05,457 IN THE SO-CALLED SECRET ARCHIVE? 149 00:07:05,492 --> 00:07:07,492 THERE'S BASICALLY TWO CAMPS OF SECRETS. 150 00:07:07,528 --> 00:07:08,727 THERE'S THE CONVENTIONAL ONES, 151 00:07:08,762 --> 00:07:09,995 WHICH ARE INTERESTING, YOU KNOW, 152 00:07:10,030 --> 00:07:13,231 SORT OF THE LETTER FROM HENRY VIII 153 00:07:13,267 --> 00:07:15,167 REQUESTING AN ANNULMENT FOR HIS MARRIAGE, 154 00:07:15,202 --> 00:07:19,471 THE LETTERS ABOUT GALILEO AND HIS HERESY. 155 00:07:19,506 --> 00:07:23,675 BUT THERE'S ALSO GOING TO BE RELICS, YOU WOULD THINK. 156 00:07:23,710 --> 00:07:27,245 THAT COULD BE THE TREASURE OF SOLOMON, THE MENORAH, 157 00:07:27,281 --> 00:07:29,181 BUT HOW ABOUT THE ARK OF THE COVENANT? 158 00:07:29,216 --> 00:07:30,782 HOW ABOUT THE HOLY GRAIL? 159 00:07:30,818 --> 00:07:33,819 YOU KNOW, WOULD YOU WANT THAT STUFF EXPOSED? 160 00:07:33,854 --> 00:07:35,020 MAYBE, MAYBE NOT. 161 00:07:35,055 --> 00:07:37,823 THEY PROBABLY HAVE THEIR REASONS. 162 00:07:37,858 --> 00:07:39,724 Narrator: WHAT SECRETS ARE HIDDEN DEEP 163 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,727 WITHIN THE VATICAN'S SECRET ARCHIVES? 164 00:07:42,763 --> 00:07:47,165 WHY IS ACCESS TO WHAT'S THERE SO RESTRICTED, 165 00:07:47,201 --> 00:07:49,768 AND ARE THE VATICAN'S CHRISTIAN WORSHIP SITES 166 00:07:49,803 --> 00:07:53,371 REALLY BUILT ON ANCIENT PAGAN TEMPLES? 167 00:07:53,407 --> 00:07:58,176 COMING UP NEXT WHEN "FORBIDDEN HISTORY" RETURNS. 168 00:07:58,812 --> 00:08:00,445 ♪♪ 169 00:08:00,481 --> 00:08:03,648 Narrator: FOR DECADES NOW, THE VATICAN HAS BEEN UNDER ATTACK 170 00:08:03,684 --> 00:08:08,019 FROM NEWSPAPERS, AUTHORS, HISTORIANS, AND CRITICS 171 00:08:08,055 --> 00:08:11,089 WHO CLAIM THAT IT'S CORRUPT AND RIDDLED WITH MEN 172 00:08:11,124 --> 00:08:12,491 WHO LIVE IMMORAL 173 00:08:12,526 --> 00:08:16,361 AND SINFUL LIVES BEHIND ITS WALLS. 174 00:08:16,396 --> 00:08:19,698 SOME HAVE ACCUSED IT OF HARBORING SATANIC WORSHIPPERS, 175 00:08:19,733 --> 00:08:24,503 INDULGING IN BLACK MAGIC, LAUNDERING MAFIA MONEY, 176 00:08:24,538 --> 00:08:26,071 AND HIDING CONTROVERSIAL 177 00:08:26,106 --> 00:08:30,442 HOLY RELICS UNDERNEATH THE VATICAN. 178 00:08:30,477 --> 00:08:34,379 BRITISH INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER JAMIE THEAKSTON IS ON THE HUNT 179 00:08:34,414 --> 00:08:37,682 TO UNCOVER THE SECRETS AND MYSTERIES OF THE VATICAN 180 00:08:37,718 --> 00:08:40,218 AND REVEAL JUST WHAT IS HIDDEN INSIDE 181 00:08:40,254 --> 00:08:44,489 THE SO-CALLED SECRET ARCHIVES. 182 00:08:44,525 --> 00:08:46,591 HE MEETS WITH ANDREW GOUGH, 183 00:08:46,627 --> 00:08:49,728 THE EDITOR OF "THE HERETIC MAGAZINE," 184 00:08:49,763 --> 00:08:53,398 WHO HAS STRONG VIEWS ON WHAT COULD BE LOCKED AWAY. 185 00:08:53,433 --> 00:08:57,669 ♪♪ 186 00:08:57,704 --> 00:09:00,472 Theakston: SO YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT THE ARCHIVE 187 00:09:00,507 --> 00:09:04,476 IS NOT A REFERENCE LIBRARY TO ILLUMINATE. 188 00:09:04,511 --> 00:09:07,646 YOU THINK IT'S A DEPOSITORY FOR HIDDEN ITEMS. 189 00:09:07,681 --> 00:09:09,281 IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? -YOU COULD ARGUE. 190 00:09:09,316 --> 00:09:13,084 IF IT'S ANYTHING THAT'S DEFLAMATORY THAT WOULD BE 191 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,153 NOT IN THEIR BEST INTEREST IF IT WAS BROUGHT TO LIGHT, 192 00:09:15,188 --> 00:09:16,755 THEN WHY WOULDN'T YOU DESTROY IT? 193 00:09:16,790 --> 00:09:19,190 BUT IT'S PRIVATE, IF IT'S SECRET, 194 00:09:19,226 --> 00:09:21,793 THERE'S PROBABLY AN EVEN STRONGER CASE FOR KEEPING IT 195 00:09:21,828 --> 00:09:24,162 BUT KEEPING IT REALLY LOCKED UP. 196 00:09:24,197 --> 00:09:26,765 WE'RE TALKING, YOU KNOW, REAL BIGGIES. 197 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:28,133 LIKE, LOOK AROUND HERE. 198 00:09:28,168 --> 00:09:31,136 EVERY CHURCH, EVERY BASILICA IN THIS CITY, 199 00:09:31,171 --> 00:09:33,805 BENEATH IT, YOU HAVE PAGAN TEMPLES. 200 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,241 ♪♪ 201 00:09:36,276 --> 00:09:38,910 Picknett: PERHAPS THE VERY EARLIEST PEOPLE 202 00:09:38,946 --> 00:09:42,180 WANTED TO SHOW THE PAGANS, "LOOK, WE'RE IN CHARGE NOW. 203 00:09:42,215 --> 00:09:45,617 WE'RE BUILDING ON TOP OF THE RUINS OF YOUR RELIGION." 204 00:09:45,652 --> 00:09:47,886 OKAY, SO THAT'S AS FAR AS MOST TRADITIONALISTS WOULD GO, 205 00:09:47,921 --> 00:09:50,322 BUT MAYBE THERE'S ALSO AN ELEMENT OF, 206 00:09:50,357 --> 00:09:53,224 "WE ARE ABSORBING THE POWER." 207 00:09:53,260 --> 00:09:55,527 IT'S BELIEVED BY MANY PEOPLE, FOR EXAMPLE, 208 00:09:55,562 --> 00:10:01,199 THAT CHURCHES WERE BUILT ON POWER LINES OR LEY LINES, 209 00:10:01,234 --> 00:10:06,338 AND THESE IN THEMSELVES HAD POWER IN THE LAND. 210 00:10:06,373 --> 00:10:09,741 Felix: THIS WAS THE CRAFT OF THE WISE. 211 00:10:09,776 --> 00:10:14,446 WE BELIEVED IN MOTHER EARTH, AND WE GO BACK TO MOTHER EARTH. 212 00:10:14,481 --> 00:10:16,281 IT'S NOT REALLY A BAD THING AT ALL, 213 00:10:16,316 --> 00:10:18,617 AND THEY NICKED ALL OF THE IDEAS 214 00:10:18,652 --> 00:10:23,855 THAT ALL OF THE PAGAN SITES AND CHRISTIANIZED IT 215 00:10:23,890 --> 00:10:26,558 AND SPLASHED HOLY WATER ON IT 216 00:10:26,593 --> 00:10:30,662 AND NICKED ALL OF THE RELIGIOUS RELICS 217 00:10:30,697 --> 00:10:32,030 AND THINGS THAT WERE INSIDE. 218 00:10:32,065 --> 00:10:35,000 AND I WOULD IMAGINE THEY'RE PROBABLY STILL TUCKED AWAY 219 00:10:35,035 --> 00:10:38,303 SOMEWHERE UNDERNEATH THE VATICAN. 220 00:10:38,338 --> 00:10:40,605 ♪♪ 221 00:10:40,641 --> 00:10:45,176 Gough: THE CHURCH IS NOT A HOLY, BENEVOLENT ORGANIZATION. 222 00:10:45,212 --> 00:10:48,313 IT'S ACTUALLY SATANIC, AND THERE'S BLACK MASSES 223 00:10:48,348 --> 00:10:50,682 AND RITUALS, AND THEY SITUATED THEIR CITY 224 00:10:50,717 --> 00:10:54,586 AND THE COUNTRY ABOVE PAGAN TEMPLES BELOW, 225 00:10:54,621 --> 00:10:57,022 AND IN FACT, THEY'RE STILL VENERATED. 226 00:10:57,057 --> 00:10:59,624 ISIS BECOMES MARY MAGDALENE. 227 00:10:59,660 --> 00:11:02,627 YOU HAVE OSIRIS BECOMING JESUS AND SO ON. 228 00:11:02,663 --> 00:11:06,898 SO THE FACT IS, IT'S A REALLY, REALLY DARK PLACE. 229 00:11:06,933 --> 00:11:12,470 ♪♪ 230 00:11:12,506 --> 00:11:16,641 Narrator: THIS IS SAN CLEMENTE CHURCH IN ROME, RUN TODAY 231 00:11:16,677 --> 00:11:19,477 BY AN IRISH ORDER OF DOMINICAN MONKS, 232 00:11:19,513 --> 00:11:22,447 AND HOUSES ONE OF THE LAST REMAINING ENTRANCES 233 00:11:22,482 --> 00:11:23,948 DOWN INTO THE ANCIENT 234 00:11:23,984 --> 00:11:27,519 PRE-CHRISTIAN REMAINS OF THE CITY. 235 00:11:27,554 --> 00:11:30,955 VATICAN HISTORIAN AND LOCAL GUIDE ROB ALLYN 236 00:11:30,991 --> 00:11:34,559 IS AN EXPERT ON SUBTERRANEAN ROME AND AGREED 237 00:11:34,594 --> 00:11:37,495 TO SHOW THE REMAINS OF A 2,000-YEAR-OLD TEMPLE, 238 00:11:37,531 --> 00:11:39,564 WHICH, IN ITS DAY, 239 00:11:39,599 --> 00:11:42,567 WAS ACTUALLY AT GROUND LEVEL. 240 00:11:42,602 --> 00:11:45,870 THE AMAZING THING IS THAT WE'RE WALKING DOWN 241 00:11:45,906 --> 00:11:48,773 TO THE FIRST CENTURY A.D. NOW, 242 00:11:48,809 --> 00:11:53,378 AND WE'RE WALKING IN TO A HOUSE OF BRICK THAT, 243 00:11:53,413 --> 00:11:55,413 A HUNDRED YEARS LATER AFTER IT WAS BUILT, 244 00:11:55,449 --> 00:11:59,851 WAS MADE INTO WHAT WAS KNOWN AS A MITHRAEUM, 245 00:11:59,886 --> 00:12:03,855 OKAY, FOR THE CULT OF THE PAGAN GOD, MITHRAS. 246 00:12:03,890 --> 00:12:05,290 Gough: WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT MITHRA? 247 00:12:05,325 --> 00:12:07,325 BORN ON DECEMBER 25th, 248 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,628 DIED, WAS RESURRECTED 3 DAYS LATER. 249 00:12:10,664 --> 00:12:11,963 HE WAS CALLED THE SAVIOR. 250 00:12:11,998 --> 00:12:14,099 HE PERFORMED MIRACLES DURING HIS LIFETIME. 251 00:12:14,134 --> 00:12:17,335 HE HAD 12 APOSTLES. DOES THAT SOUND FAMILIAR? 252 00:12:17,370 --> 00:12:20,038 BUT THAT WAS WAY BEFORE CHRIST. 253 00:12:20,073 --> 00:12:22,741 SO THEY'RE KIND OF SUPPRESSING THAT 254 00:12:22,776 --> 00:12:24,642 BECAUSE IT WAS A BIT DARK. 255 00:12:24,678 --> 00:12:26,478 YOU KNOW, THEY'D SLAUGHTER BULLS. 256 00:12:26,513 --> 00:12:28,880 THERE WAS A SEXUAL ELEMENT TO IT. 257 00:12:28,915 --> 00:12:31,950 SO CHRISTIANITY KIND OF CLEANED IT UP 258 00:12:31,985 --> 00:12:36,654 AND POLISHED THE MYTH AND TOLD US IT WAS TRUE, 259 00:12:36,690 --> 00:12:38,356 AND I THINK THAT IS A BIGGIE, 260 00:12:38,391 --> 00:12:40,558 THAT THEY'VE LIED ABOUT THE STORY 261 00:12:40,594 --> 00:12:42,127 BECAUSE IT'S ALLEGORICAL. 262 00:12:42,162 --> 00:12:43,628 IT'S NOT REAL. 263 00:12:43,663 --> 00:12:47,499 ♪♪ 264 00:12:47,534 --> 00:12:51,169 Allyn: NOW WE'RE GOING TO BE GOING INSIDE 265 00:12:51,204 --> 00:12:54,839 WHERE THEY HAD THE RELIGIOUS PRACTICES OF THE MITHRAEUM. 266 00:12:54,875 --> 00:12:57,609 ♪♪ 267 00:12:57,644 --> 00:12:59,978 MITHRAEUM WAS A PAGAN CULT. 268 00:13:00,013 --> 00:13:02,046 IT WASN'T A STATE CULT. 269 00:13:02,082 --> 00:13:03,848 IT WAS A MYSTERY CULT. 270 00:13:03,884 --> 00:13:06,684 SO THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT PEOPLE DIDN'T KNOW OF ITS EXISTENCE, 271 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,120 BUT PEOPLE DIDN'T KNOW OF ALL THESE IMPORTANT RITUALS 272 00:13:09,156 --> 00:13:10,722 ABOUT HOW TO GET INVOLVED IN THIS KIND 273 00:13:10,757 --> 00:13:13,224 OF SECRET SOCIETY CULT, 274 00:13:13,260 --> 00:13:16,694 A CULT THAT WAS EXCLUSIVELY FOR MEN, 275 00:13:16,730 --> 00:13:21,032 FOR SOLDIERS, FOR ADMINISTRATORS. 276 00:13:21,067 --> 00:13:23,635 AND HERE IS A CULMINATION OF THE LIFE OF MITHRAS, 277 00:13:23,670 --> 00:13:24,936 THIS GOD RIGHT HERE. 278 00:13:24,971 --> 00:13:27,839 YOU SEE THE GOD MITHRAS AND HIS PHRYGIAN CAP. 279 00:13:27,874 --> 00:13:28,873 ALL RIGHT. 280 00:13:28,909 --> 00:13:30,475 HE IS A REPRESENTATION OF THE SUN, 281 00:13:30,510 --> 00:13:32,944 AND HE IS SLAYING A BULL, 282 00:13:32,979 --> 00:13:37,081 WHICH IT IS CONSIDERED THAT IT IS THE MOON. 283 00:13:37,117 --> 00:13:38,483 OKAY? 284 00:13:38,518 --> 00:13:40,185 DO YOU SEE THAT HE'S-- HE WOULD HAVE BEEN IN FRESCOS. 285 00:13:40,220 --> 00:13:42,520 WE SEE HIM PAINTED WHITE. 286 00:13:42,556 --> 00:13:44,189 OKAY. SO IT'S LIKE A CRESCENT MOON. 287 00:13:44,224 --> 00:13:45,490 YOU CAN EVEN SEE HIS TAIL. 288 00:13:45,525 --> 00:13:47,258 IT'S RIGHT AT THE MOMENT THAT HE'S BEING KILLED, 289 00:13:47,294 --> 00:13:50,495 AND HE HAS THESE CREATURES THAT ARE ACCOMPANYING HIM 290 00:13:50,530 --> 00:13:53,898 BECAUSE THIS IS ALL AN ALLEGORY TO A REBIRTH. 291 00:13:53,934 --> 00:13:56,201 SO YOU HAVE HERE-- IT'S HARD TO DECIPHER, 292 00:13:56,236 --> 00:13:57,836 BUT WE HAVE A DOG. 293 00:13:57,871 --> 00:13:59,037 WE HAVE A SERPENT. 294 00:13:59,072 --> 00:14:01,673 AND RIGHT WHERE THE KNIFE IS STABBING, 295 00:14:01,708 --> 00:14:03,608 THE BLOOD IS POURING OUT, THEY'RE DRINKING OF IT. 296 00:14:03,643 --> 00:14:06,711 AND ALSO, YOU HAVE A SCORPION STINGING HIM 297 00:14:06,746 --> 00:14:08,546 IN THE TESTICLES BECAUSE THIS IS ALL... 298 00:14:08,582 --> 00:14:10,114 THEY'RE TAKING THE LIFE FORCE OUT OF THE BULL. 299 00:14:10,150 --> 00:14:12,984 SOMETIMES, IT'S EVEN DEPICTED THAT THERE ARE CORN HUSKS 300 00:14:13,019 --> 00:14:16,221 COMING FROM HIS TAIL. 301 00:14:16,256 --> 00:14:19,057 Gough: YOU KNOW, FOR DECADES -- NO, HUNDREDS OF YEARS, 302 00:14:19,092 --> 00:14:22,327 THERE'S BEEN RUMORS FROM PRIESTS, FROM CARDINALS, 303 00:14:22,362 --> 00:14:23,995 FROM REPUTABLE PEOPLE 304 00:14:24,030 --> 00:14:27,699 THAT THERE'S A SMALL SORT OF SECT WITHIN THE CHURCH -- 305 00:14:27,734 --> 00:14:29,267 MAYBE NOT SO SMALL -- 306 00:14:29,302 --> 00:14:31,736 WHO CONDUCT SACRIFICES 307 00:14:31,771 --> 00:14:34,906 AND RITUALS THAT ARE VERY, VERY DARK INDEED. 308 00:14:34,941 --> 00:14:38,142 SO YOU HAVE TO WONDER THEN, IS IT ANY ACCIDENT 309 00:14:38,178 --> 00:14:40,545 THAT THEY'VE SITUATED THEIR CAPITAL 310 00:14:40,580 --> 00:14:43,147 AND THEIR COUNTRY RIGHT ON TOP OF THESE TEMPLES? 311 00:14:43,183 --> 00:14:45,717 I THINK NOT. 312 00:14:45,752 --> 00:14:47,418 Narrator: WAS VATICAN CITY 313 00:14:47,454 --> 00:14:50,288 DELIBERATELY BUILT ON TOP OF PAGAN TEMPLES, 314 00:14:50,323 --> 00:14:52,123 AND IF SO, WHY? 315 00:14:52,158 --> 00:14:55,193 DID THE CHURCH IN ROME USE THESE SITES 316 00:14:55,228 --> 00:14:58,596 TO CONDUCT ANCIENT NON-CHRISTIAN PRACTICES, 317 00:14:58,632 --> 00:15:01,633 AND IS THERE EVIDENCE OF THIS HIDDEN AWAY 318 00:15:01,668 --> 00:15:04,702 IN THE VATICAN'S SECRET ARCHIVES? 319 00:15:04,738 --> 00:15:09,307 MORE REVELATIONS WHEN "FORBIDDEN HISTORY" RETURNS. 320 00:15:09,342 --> 00:15:11,242 ♪♪ 321 00:15:12,812 --> 00:15:15,513 Narrator: THE VATICAN HAS BEEN UNDER ATTACK FOR CENTURIES 322 00:15:15,548 --> 00:15:17,115 BY ITS CRITICS 323 00:15:17,150 --> 00:15:20,118 WHO ACCUSE IT OF HARBORING IMPORTANT ANCIENT RELICS, 324 00:15:20,153 --> 00:15:24,355 DOCUMENTS, AND SECRETS DEEP WITHIN ITS ARCHIVES. 325 00:15:24,391 --> 00:15:27,158 SOME EVEN CLAIM THAT THE DOCTRINE AT THE HEART 326 00:15:27,193 --> 00:15:30,128 OF CHRISTIANITY ITSELF IS A LIE 327 00:15:30,163 --> 00:15:32,497 CONJURED UP TWO MILLENNIA AGO 328 00:15:32,532 --> 00:15:37,402 FOR THE PURPOSE OF POWER AND CONTROL. 329 00:15:37,437 --> 00:15:41,406 BRITISH INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER JAMIE THEAKSTON IS IN ROME 330 00:15:41,441 --> 00:15:43,207 AND HAS DISCOVERED THAT THE HOLY CITY 331 00:15:43,243 --> 00:15:44,709 WE SEE TODAY 332 00:15:44,744 --> 00:15:48,279 WAS BUILT RIGHT ON TOP OF ANCIENT PAGAN TEMPLES, 333 00:15:48,315 --> 00:15:51,649 WHICH DATE BACK WELL OVER 2,000 YEARS. 334 00:15:51,685 --> 00:15:56,387 SOME SAY THAT THESE OLD WORSHIP SITES STILL PLAY A SECRET 335 00:15:56,423 --> 00:15:58,489 BUT IMPORTANT ROLE AT 336 00:15:58,525 --> 00:16:03,394 THE VERY HIGHEST LEVELS OF THE CHURCH TODAY. 337 00:16:03,430 --> 00:16:06,864 Walters: THE VATICAN, LIKE SO MANY OTHER CHRISTIAN SITES, 338 00:16:06,900 --> 00:16:10,335 WAS BUILT ON AN EXISTING PLACE OF WORSHIP. 339 00:16:10,370 --> 00:16:12,136 IT'S THE FORM OF THE CHURCH SAYING, 340 00:16:12,172 --> 00:16:14,038 "WE'RE IN CONTROL OF RELIGION NOW, 341 00:16:14,074 --> 00:16:17,108 SO YOUR PAGAN SITE NOW BECOMES A CHRISTIAN SITE." 342 00:16:17,143 --> 00:16:20,345 YES, THERE ARE REMNANTS OF OLD RELIGIONS THERE 343 00:16:20,380 --> 00:16:22,013 THAT WERE PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT DARKER 344 00:16:22,048 --> 00:16:24,449 THAN WHAT CHRISTIANITY IS SUPPOSED TO BE, 345 00:16:24,484 --> 00:16:27,819 BUT THE IDEA THAT THE LEADERS OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH 346 00:16:27,854 --> 00:16:31,055 WITHIN THE VATICAN ARE A BUNCH OF SATANIC OCCULTISTS 347 00:16:31,091 --> 00:16:34,625 IS NONSENSE OF THE HIGHEST ORDER. 348 00:16:34,661 --> 00:16:37,528 Felix: THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, OR SHOULD I SAY CHRISTIANITY 349 00:16:37,564 --> 00:16:40,832 IN GENERAL, HIJACKED PAGANISM. 350 00:16:40,867 --> 00:16:45,036 THAT WAS, BEFORE THEM, THE TRUE RELIGION, IF YOU LIKE, 351 00:16:45,071 --> 00:16:47,739 AND THEY JUST NICKED ALL OF THE SITES, 352 00:16:47,774 --> 00:16:50,074 ALL OF THE IDEALS, 353 00:16:50,110 --> 00:16:51,876 THE IDEOLOGY BEHIND IT, 354 00:16:51,911 --> 00:16:56,047 AND TOOK IT ON FOR THEMSELVES. 355 00:16:56,082 --> 00:16:58,416 Dr. Papadopoulos: THESE SITES HAD SOME SORT OF POWER, 356 00:16:58,451 --> 00:16:59,751 AND, YOU KNOW, 357 00:16:59,786 --> 00:17:01,853 THEY WANTED TO BE CO-OPTED BY THIS NEW RELIGION. 358 00:17:01,888 --> 00:17:05,823 AND IF YOU LOOK AT MOST MONOTHEISTIC SOCIETIES, 359 00:17:05,859 --> 00:17:08,393 THEY MORE OR LESS SAY ALL THE SAME THINGS, 360 00:17:08,428 --> 00:17:11,162 KIND OF LIKE A SMORGASBORD OF WHAT'S GONE ON BEFORE, 361 00:17:11,197 --> 00:17:13,197 WHICH IS WHY YOU SEE, YOU KNOW, 362 00:17:13,233 --> 00:17:15,299 WHETHER IT'S PAGANISM OR CHRISTIANITY, 363 00:17:15,335 --> 00:17:16,534 THESE KIND OF SAME THINGS 364 00:17:16,569 --> 00:17:18,970 BEING ENACTED OVER AND OVER AGAIN TO THE POINT 365 00:17:19,005 --> 00:17:21,472 THAT EVEN SOME OF THE NAMES ARE SIMILAR. 366 00:17:21,508 --> 00:17:28,379 ♪♪ 367 00:17:28,415 --> 00:17:31,916 Narrator: AUTHOR ROB HOWELLS HAS BEEN STUDYING AND RESEARCHING 368 00:17:31,951 --> 00:17:35,953 THE VATICAN AND ITS SECRETS FOR OVER TWO DECADES. 369 00:17:35,989 --> 00:17:39,157 HE BELIEVES THAT IT DOES PROTECT VERY IMPORTANT OBJECTS, 370 00:17:39,192 --> 00:17:43,294 DOCUMENTS, AND OTHER SECRETS. 371 00:17:43,329 --> 00:17:47,732 SO, ROB, WHAT IS THE VATICAN KEEPING SECRET? 372 00:17:47,767 --> 00:17:50,368 THE ENTIRE TIME THAT THEY'VE EXISTED, 373 00:17:50,403 --> 00:17:53,805 THEY COLLECTED MANUSCRIPTS AND RELICS 374 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:57,775 AND ITEMS FROM EITHER CAMPAIGNS OR CRUSADES, 375 00:17:57,811 --> 00:18:00,511 NOT ONLY FOR THEIR OWN RESEARCH AND TO SUPPORT THEIR IDEAS, 376 00:18:00,547 --> 00:18:02,847 BUT ALSO TO PREVENT ANYTHING COMING OUT, 377 00:18:02,882 --> 00:18:05,049 BECAUSE THEY NEED TO CONTROL THE INFORMATION 378 00:18:05,085 --> 00:18:09,120 AROUND BIBLICAL ISSUES AND BIBLICAL DOGMA. 379 00:18:09,155 --> 00:18:12,924 THEY CAN'T ALLOW ALTERNATIVE VIEWS TO BECOME PUBLIC. 380 00:18:12,959 --> 00:18:16,427 WHAT KIND OF THINGS EXACTLY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? 381 00:18:16,463 --> 00:18:19,931 IN TERMS OF DOCUMENTATION, THEY'VE GOT 52 MILES 382 00:18:19,966 --> 00:18:22,767 OF SHELVING, OF BOOKS AND MANUSCRIPTS ALONE, 383 00:18:22,802 --> 00:18:24,368 SO THAT WOULD BE EVERYTHING 384 00:18:24,404 --> 00:18:26,404 FROM EARLY 1st-CENTURY FRAGMENTS 385 00:18:26,439 --> 00:18:30,308 TO POTENTIALLY ENTIRE ALTERNATIVE GOSPELS. 386 00:18:30,343 --> 00:18:33,177 THERE WERE ALSO IDEAS THAT THERE'S A BOOK OF Q. 387 00:18:33,213 --> 00:18:35,680 THE ACADEMICS HAVE TURNED A BOOK 388 00:18:35,715 --> 00:18:37,181 THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE SOURCE MATERIAL 389 00:18:37,217 --> 00:18:39,784 FOR THE MAIN GOSPELS OF MATTHEW, MARK, LUKE, AND JOHN 390 00:18:39,819 --> 00:18:41,686 BECAUSE THE MAIN GOSPELS ARE WRITTEN LONG 391 00:18:41,721 --> 00:18:44,155 AFTER THE TIME OF CHRIST. 392 00:18:44,190 --> 00:18:47,558 SO IF THEY'VE GOT SOMETHING LIKE A BOOK OF Q, 393 00:18:47,594 --> 00:18:50,428 THAT WOULD UNDERMINE EVERYTHING ELSE. 394 00:18:50,463 --> 00:18:52,930 IT HAS SECRET ARCHIVES, AND PEOPLE SAY, "OH, WELL, 395 00:18:52,966 --> 00:18:55,867 THE WORD SECRET JUST MEANS 'PRIVATE.'" 396 00:18:55,902 --> 00:18:58,236 WELL, TECHNICALLY, IT DOES, BUT LET'S BE HONEST. 397 00:18:58,271 --> 00:18:59,971 IT MEANS SECRET WITH KNOBS ON. 398 00:19:00,006 --> 00:19:04,842 THEY ARE NOT LETTING THE AVERAGE PERSON LOOK AT THEM. 399 00:19:04,878 --> 00:19:07,178 YOU CAN'T PHOTOCOPY ANYTHING. 400 00:19:07,213 --> 00:19:09,614 I'VE HEARD IT ON VERY GOOD AUTHORITY 401 00:19:09,649 --> 00:19:12,917 THAT THERE'S SAID TO BE THE VATICAN WITHIN THE VATICAN, 402 00:19:12,952 --> 00:19:14,218 WHICH IS, THEY HAVE 403 00:19:14,254 --> 00:19:16,621 ENORMOUS PILLARS, ENORMOUS PILLARS. 404 00:19:16,656 --> 00:19:18,623 YOU CAN GET, YOU KNOW, QUITE ALMOST LIKE 405 00:19:18,658 --> 00:19:20,258 BALLROOM-SIZED PILLARS, 406 00:19:20,293 --> 00:19:24,095 AND IN THERE ARE THE SECRETS OF THE SECRETS 407 00:19:24,130 --> 00:19:27,965 SAID TO BE THE VEIL OF VERONICA AND ALL SORTS OF RELICS. 408 00:19:28,001 --> 00:19:29,834 ♪♪ 409 00:19:29,869 --> 00:19:33,371 Gough: THE HERETICAL PIECES OF ART, MUSIC, DOCUMENTS, 410 00:19:33,406 --> 00:19:34,739 THAT'S THE BORING STUFF. 411 00:19:34,774 --> 00:19:37,074 THE REAL BIGGIES, THE REAL SECRETS, 412 00:19:37,110 --> 00:19:39,410 THOSE ARE RELICS, DEVICES, 413 00:19:39,445 --> 00:19:42,046 THINGS THAT WOULD CAUSE HISTORY TO BE REWRITTEN. 414 00:19:42,081 --> 00:19:43,481 LIKE WHAT? 415 00:19:43,516 --> 00:19:47,251 WELL, THE FACT THAT THE CHURCH IS BASED UPON PAGAN ORIGINS, 416 00:19:47,287 --> 00:19:49,787 NOT HOLY FOUNDATIONS. 417 00:19:49,822 --> 00:19:51,756 THAT'S THE BIGGEST SECRET. 418 00:19:51,791 --> 00:19:54,892 ♪♪ 419 00:19:54,928 --> 00:19:59,830 TRADITIONALLY, ARCHIVES ARE KEPT TO ILLUMINATE, 420 00:19:59,866 --> 00:20:01,832 YOU KNOW, TO SHOW PEOPLE DIFFERENT THINGS. 421 00:20:01,868 --> 00:20:02,867 YEAH. 422 00:20:02,902 --> 00:20:04,602 IN THIS CASE, IT SEEMS DIFFERENT. 423 00:20:04,637 --> 00:20:07,271 YEAH. YOU'D EXPECT AN ARCHIVE TO BE A PUBLIC RECORD 424 00:20:07,307 --> 00:20:08,472 THAT'S MADE AVAILABLE, 425 00:20:08,508 --> 00:20:09,974 BUT BECAUSE THERE'S THE POTENTIAL 426 00:20:10,009 --> 00:20:12,944 FOR CONTROVERSIAL MATERIAL, YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED ACCESS. 427 00:20:12,979 --> 00:20:15,012 YOU CAN GET ACCESS TO THE SECRET ARCHIVE 428 00:20:15,048 --> 00:20:17,081 IN THE VATICAN ONLY IF YOU KNOW EXACTLY 429 00:20:17,116 --> 00:20:18,349 WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR. 430 00:20:18,384 --> 00:20:19,917 NO ONE'S ALLOWED TO BROWSE. 431 00:20:19,953 --> 00:20:22,753 AND THERE IS THIS OTHER ISSUE THAT THEY HAVE POTENTIALLY 432 00:20:22,789 --> 00:20:24,255 TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOCUMENTS 433 00:20:24,290 --> 00:20:25,656 THAT ARE STILL UNCATALOGED 434 00:20:25,692 --> 00:20:27,892 BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE AN ARMY OF RESEARCHERS IN THERE. 435 00:20:27,927 --> 00:20:30,795 THEY'VE GOT A FEW LIBRARIANS, SO THERE COULD BE DOCUMENTS 436 00:20:30,830 --> 00:20:32,463 THEY'VE GOT NO IDEA OF THE IMPORTANCE OF 437 00:20:32,498 --> 00:20:34,532 THAT THEY'VE JUST GOT STORED. 438 00:20:34,567 --> 00:20:39,103 ♪♪ 439 00:20:39,138 --> 00:20:40,705 AND IS IT JUST DOCUMENTS, 440 00:20:40,740 --> 00:20:43,741 OR ARE THERE RELICS AND OTHER OBJECTS IN THERE? 441 00:20:43,776 --> 00:20:45,009 THERE'S DEFINITELY RELICS. 442 00:20:45,044 --> 00:20:48,646 WE KNOW THAT, FROM THE HOLY LAND, 443 00:20:48,681 --> 00:20:50,348 CERTAIN ITEMS WERE RETURNED, 444 00:20:50,383 --> 00:20:52,216 SOME QUITE EXTREME ITEMS. 445 00:20:52,252 --> 00:20:54,218 THE FORESKIN OF CHRIST IS ONE OF THEM 446 00:20:54,254 --> 00:20:56,020 THAT'S SAID TO BE IN THE VATICAN. 447 00:20:56,055 --> 00:20:59,624 EVEN THE UMBILICAL CORD WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN KEPT. 448 00:20:59,659 --> 00:21:02,426 WHETHER THEY'RE REAL OR NOT IS VERY QUESTIONABLE, 449 00:21:02,462 --> 00:21:04,562 BUT MANY, MANY ITEMS WERE RECOVERED 450 00:21:04,597 --> 00:21:05,830 SUPPOSEDLY AND RETURNED 451 00:21:05,865 --> 00:21:09,867 TO THE VATICAN AT VARIOUS POINTS IN HISTORY. 452 00:21:09,902 --> 00:21:12,536 PEOPLE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT CONSPIRACY THEORIES 453 00:21:12,572 --> 00:21:14,238 AND HOW THESE ARE REALLY FAR-FETCHED, 454 00:21:14,274 --> 00:21:17,808 BUT ACTUALLY, IF YOU LOOK AT THE ARCH OF TITUS IN ROME, 455 00:21:17,844 --> 00:21:21,979 IT DOES DEPICT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE SORT OF PILLAGING PLACES 456 00:21:22,015 --> 00:21:24,215 LIKE JERUSALEM BRINGING BACK RELICS. 457 00:21:24,250 --> 00:21:26,651 SO, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S TO SAY IN EFFECT 458 00:21:26,686 --> 00:21:28,819 THAT THOSE RELICS AREN'T SOME OF THE THINGS 459 00:21:28,855 --> 00:21:30,855 THAT THESE CONSPIRACY THEORISTS ARE 460 00:21:30,890 --> 00:21:32,290 SAYING THAT ARE UNDER THERE, 461 00:21:32,325 --> 00:21:37,528 WHETHER THEY'RE CHALICES OR SHROUDS OR WHATEVER THEY ARE? 462 00:21:37,563 --> 00:21:40,197 Walters: NOW, OF COURSE, BECAUSE THERE'S THIS HUGE DISTRUST 463 00:21:40,233 --> 00:21:43,501 ABOUT WHAT SO MANY FORMER POPES AND SENIOR FIGURES 464 00:21:43,536 --> 00:21:45,336 IN THE VATICAN HAVE GOT UP TO, THEREFORE, 465 00:21:45,371 --> 00:21:47,371 A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK THERE MUST BE ALL SORTS 466 00:21:47,407 --> 00:21:49,407 OF SORT OF EVIL STUFF LURKING IN THERE 467 00:21:49,442 --> 00:21:51,108 OR INDEED FANTASTIC STUFF 468 00:21:51,144 --> 00:21:53,577 LIKE THE HOLY GRAIL AND THE ARK OF THE COVENANT. 469 00:21:53,613 --> 00:21:55,780 I MEAN, THIS IS JUST CLEARLY NONSENSE. 470 00:21:55,815 --> 00:21:57,248 YOU KNOW, IF THE VATICAN HAD THE ARK 471 00:21:57,283 --> 00:21:58,649 OF THE COVENANT KICKING AROUND, 472 00:21:58,685 --> 00:21:59,850 "OH, LOOK. WHAT'S THAT?" 473 00:21:59,886 --> 00:22:02,420 YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, THEY'D DISPLAY IT. 474 00:22:02,455 --> 00:22:05,222 SO I THINK THERE'S SOME FANCIFUL THEORIES ABOUT 475 00:22:05,258 --> 00:22:06,457 WHAT'S IN THIS ARCHIVE, 476 00:22:06,492 --> 00:22:08,826 AND I THINK THEY'RE LARGELY BUNK. 477 00:22:08,861 --> 00:22:14,065 ♪♪ 478 00:22:14,100 --> 00:22:19,403 ♪♪ 479 00:22:19,439 --> 00:22:21,005 Narrator: VERY FEW PEOPLE TODAY 480 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:24,108 ARE AWARE OF THE VATICAN'S TRUE HISTORY. 481 00:22:24,143 --> 00:22:29,847 THE MOST CONTROVERSIAL POPE OF MODERN TIMES WAS PIUS XII, 482 00:22:29,882 --> 00:22:32,383 WHO TOOK OVER IN 1939 483 00:22:32,418 --> 00:22:34,952 AND WAS LABELED HITLER'S POPE 484 00:22:34,987 --> 00:22:37,755 BY THOSE WHO ACCUSE HIM OF TURNING A BLIND EYE 485 00:22:37,790 --> 00:22:39,957 TO REPORTS OF THE HOLOCAUST. 486 00:22:39,992 --> 00:22:44,395 FURTHER BACK, THERE WAS POPE LEO XIII, 487 00:22:44,430 --> 00:22:47,798 WHO IN THE CLOSING YEARS OF THE 19th CENTURY, 488 00:22:47,834 --> 00:22:50,434 DASHED FLEDGLING HOPES OF RECONCILIATION 489 00:22:50,470 --> 00:22:52,069 BETWEEN THE CHURCH OF ENGLAND 490 00:22:52,105 --> 00:22:54,372 AND THE CHURCH OF ROME BY DECLARING 491 00:22:54,407 --> 00:22:58,275 THAT ALL ANGLICAN ORDINATIONS WERE NULL AND VOID, 492 00:22:58,311 --> 00:23:01,312 A JUDGMENT WHICH STILL STANDS. 493 00:23:01,347 --> 00:23:02,947 ♪♪ 494 00:23:02,982 --> 00:23:06,050 IN THE 9th CENTURY, POPE STEPHEN VI 495 00:23:06,085 --> 00:23:08,886 DECIDED TO EXHUME THE CORPSE OF HIS PREDECESSOR 496 00:23:08,921 --> 00:23:12,189 BUT ONE FOR MOSES SO THAT IT COULD, 497 00:23:12,225 --> 00:23:15,292 WAIT FOR IT, STAND TRIAL. 498 00:23:15,328 --> 00:23:17,862 DRESSED IN THE PAPAL VESTMENTS, 499 00:23:17,897 --> 00:23:21,465 IT UNSURPRISINGLY OFFERED NO ADEQUATE DEFENSE 500 00:23:21,501 --> 00:23:23,667 AND WAS CONDEMNED TO BE MUTILATED 501 00:23:23,703 --> 00:23:27,571 AND THROWN INTO THE TIBER. 502 00:23:27,607 --> 00:23:31,075 IN FACT, OVER A THOUSAND YEARS LATER, 503 00:23:31,110 --> 00:23:35,913 RUMORS AND ACCUSATIONS STILL SWIRL AROUND THIS HOLY CITY. 504 00:23:35,948 --> 00:23:39,917 IN 2003, THE SO-CALLED MAGDALENE LAUNDRIES 505 00:23:39,952 --> 00:23:41,252 CAME TO LIGHT 506 00:23:41,287 --> 00:23:43,554 WHERE IT WAS PROVED THAT SINGLE MOTHERS 507 00:23:43,589 --> 00:23:45,022 AND PROSTITUTES 508 00:23:45,057 --> 00:23:48,426 WERE FORCED INTO SLAVE-LABOR HOUSES IN IRELAND, 509 00:23:48,461 --> 00:23:50,995 OVERSEEN BY CATHOLIC NUNS. 510 00:23:51,030 --> 00:23:55,800 A $43 MILLION SETTLEMENT WAS PAID TO SURVIVORS. 511 00:23:55,835 --> 00:24:00,037 IN 2009, IT WAS REVEALED THAT THE ARCHDIOCESE OF BOSTON 512 00:24:00,072 --> 00:24:02,072 HAD COVERED UP THE SEXUAL ABUSE 513 00:24:02,108 --> 00:24:05,342 OF THOUSANDS OF CHILDREN BY 70 PRIESTS. 514 00:24:05,378 --> 00:24:10,915 THAT FIGURE HAS NOW INCREASED TO OVER 3,000 CATHOLIC PRIESTS 515 00:24:10,950 --> 00:24:13,083 AROUND THE WORLD ACCUSED OF 516 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,220 ALLEGEDLY CONDUCTING SYSTEMIC ABUSE 517 00:24:16,255 --> 00:24:19,457 OF TENS OF THOUSANDS OF CHILDREN. 518 00:24:19,492 --> 00:24:23,227 Dan Rather: THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS FACING SCANDALS 519 00:24:23,262 --> 00:24:25,563 AND BEING FORCED TO PAY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. 520 00:24:25,598 --> 00:24:27,998 Man: ...IS ACCUSED OF MOLESTING AND RAPING BOYS 521 00:24:28,034 --> 00:24:30,601 AS YOUNG AS FOUR YEARS OLD OVER A PERIOD OF 34 YEARS. 522 00:24:30,636 --> 00:24:32,803 Woman: TWO-THIRDS OF BISHOPS PROTECTED PRIESTS 523 00:24:32,839 --> 00:24:34,171 ACCUSED OF SEXUAL ABUSE. 524 00:24:34,207 --> 00:24:35,739 Woman #2: LAWYERS FOR VICTIMS OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH 525 00:24:35,775 --> 00:24:37,875 MAY SUE THE VATICAN FOR ACCESS TO MATERIAL 526 00:24:37,910 --> 00:24:39,710 THEY SAY MAY SHED LIGHT ON THE DIALOGUE 527 00:24:39,745 --> 00:24:41,345 BETWEEN ROME AND AMERICAN BISHOPS 528 00:24:41,380 --> 00:24:44,582 TO SEE IF THERE WAS ANY OFFICIAL HUSH POLICY. 529 00:24:44,617 --> 00:24:47,852 Theakston: DO YOU THINK THAT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH HAS KNOWN 530 00:24:47,887 --> 00:24:49,086 FOR SOME TIME ABOUT THE PROBLEMS 531 00:24:49,121 --> 00:24:50,354 THAT THEY HAVE WITH CHILD ABUSE 532 00:24:50,389 --> 00:24:53,190 AND HAVE BEEN RELUCTANT TO COME OUT WITH IT? 533 00:24:53,226 --> 00:24:54,291 OH, ABSOLUTELY. 534 00:24:54,327 --> 00:24:55,359 THEY'VE BEEN COVERING IT UP FOR YEARS. 535 00:24:55,394 --> 00:24:58,662 THERE WERE CASES OF PRIESTS BEING CAUGHT 536 00:24:58,698 --> 00:25:03,334 AND BEING FOUND GUILTY INTERNALLY WITHIN THE VATICAN, 537 00:25:03,369 --> 00:25:06,670 BY THEIR PEERS AND BEING MOVED TO OTHER LOCATIONS 538 00:25:06,706 --> 00:25:08,138 BEFORE A SCANDAL COULD BREAK. 539 00:25:08,174 --> 00:25:10,241 SO THERE HAS BEEN A HISTORY OF COVER-UPS, 540 00:25:10,276 --> 00:25:12,376 AND THE COVER-UPS HAS JUST DONE MORE DAMAGE 541 00:25:12,411 --> 00:25:14,311 BECAUSE, AS SOON AS THEY'RE DISCOVERED, 542 00:25:14,347 --> 00:25:17,381 IT'S NO LONGER AN ISSUE OF ONE PRIEST ACTING ON HIS OWN. 543 00:25:17,416 --> 00:25:21,752 IT'S THE WHOLE ORGANIZATION GETS CALLED INTO QUESTION 544 00:25:21,787 --> 00:25:23,187 FOR BEING THAT CORRUPT. 545 00:25:23,222 --> 00:25:25,389 ♪♪ 546 00:25:25,424 --> 00:25:27,558 Narrator: HAS THE VATICAN BEEN COVERING UP 547 00:25:27,593 --> 00:25:30,628 CHILD-ABUSE SCANDALS FOR YEARS? 548 00:25:30,663 --> 00:25:32,930 JUST HOW MUCH EXORCISM DOES THE CHURCH 549 00:25:32,965 --> 00:25:35,933 IN ROME SANCTION EVERY YEAR? 550 00:25:35,968 --> 00:25:39,003 AND INVESTIGATIVE AUTHOR JOHN DICKIE EXAMINES 551 00:25:39,038 --> 00:25:42,506 THE MURKY WORLD OF VATICAN FINANCES 552 00:25:42,542 --> 00:25:48,145 COMING UP WHEN "FORBIDDEN HISTORY" RETURNS. 553 00:25:48,180 --> 00:25:49,480 Narrator: FOR DECADES NOW, 554 00:25:49,515 --> 00:25:51,715 THE VATICAN HAS BEEN UNDER CONSTANT ATTACK 555 00:25:51,751 --> 00:25:55,152 FROM NEWSPAPERS, AUTHORS, AND HISTORIANS 556 00:25:55,187 --> 00:25:58,289 WHO CLAIM THAT IT'S CORRUPT AND RIDDLED WITH PRIESTS 557 00:25:58,324 --> 00:26:02,893 WHO LIVE IMMORAL AND SINFUL LIVES BEHIND ITS WALLS. 558 00:26:02,929 --> 00:26:06,931 IN RECENT DECADES, IT'S BEEN ROCKED BY SCANDAL AFTER SCANDAL, 559 00:26:06,966 --> 00:26:08,365 CHILD ABUSE, 560 00:26:08,401 --> 00:26:11,101 THE MAGDALENE LAUNDRIES, AND MORE RECENTLY, 561 00:26:11,137 --> 00:26:14,838 SERIOUS ACCUSATIONS AGAINST POPE BENEDICT XVI 562 00:26:14,874 --> 00:26:18,475 AND HIS NUMBER TWO, CARDINAL BERTONE. 563 00:26:18,511 --> 00:26:21,645 BRITISH INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER JAMIE THEAKSTON 564 00:26:21,681 --> 00:26:23,614 IS IN ROME TO EXAMINE 565 00:26:23,649 --> 00:26:26,016 JUST WHAT'S REALLY BEEN GOING ON 566 00:26:26,052 --> 00:26:29,153 BEHIND THE VATICAN'S CLOSED DOORS. 567 00:26:29,188 --> 00:26:32,222 ♪♪ 568 00:26:32,258 --> 00:26:34,658 Picknett: THIS IS AN EVIL EMPIRE. 569 00:26:34,694 --> 00:26:38,329 WHENEVER THEY COME ACROSS OR ARE MADE TO FACE UP 570 00:26:38,364 --> 00:26:42,366 TO YET ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF CHILD ABUSE, 571 00:26:42,401 --> 00:26:43,667 FIRST OF ALL, THEY ALWAYS DENY IT. 572 00:26:43,703 --> 00:26:46,837 SECOND OF ALL, WHEN FORCED TO ACCEPT IT, THEY SAY, 573 00:26:46,872 --> 00:26:48,105 "OH, WELL, IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, 574 00:26:48,140 --> 00:26:50,608 THE ODD ROTTEN APPLE IN A BARREL." 575 00:26:50,643 --> 00:26:52,910 THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT OF ROTTEN APPLES. 576 00:26:52,945 --> 00:26:56,680 THERE IS OBVIOUSLY A NETWORK. 577 00:26:56,716 --> 00:27:00,351 Walters: THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT, THROUGHOUT ITS HISTORY, 578 00:27:00,386 --> 00:27:02,786 THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF BAD APPLES IN THE VATICAN. 579 00:27:02,822 --> 00:27:07,725 THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT THERE ARE CATHOLIC PRIESTS AT ALL LEVELS 580 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,395 OF THE VATICAN HAVE DONE BAD THINGS. 581 00:27:11,430 --> 00:27:13,998 YOU KNOW, WE'VE SEEN IT IN IRELAND, 582 00:27:14,033 --> 00:27:15,833 SO MANY CHILD-ABUSE CASES 583 00:27:15,868 --> 00:27:17,735 CARRIED OUT BY CATHOLIC PRIESTS, 584 00:27:17,770 --> 00:27:21,505 BUT I DON'T SEE THE VATICAN AS BEING IN ITSELF 585 00:27:21,540 --> 00:27:25,743 THIS KIND OF CENTER OF EVIL THAT, YOU KNOW, 586 00:27:25,778 --> 00:27:28,946 IS RESPONSIBLE FOR BAD THINGS HAPPENING IN SOCIETY 587 00:27:28,981 --> 00:27:30,414 THROUGHOUT THE AGES. 588 00:27:30,449 --> 00:27:34,952 I SEE IT AS BEING AS VENAL AND CORRUPT AS ANY OTHER FLABBY, 589 00:27:34,987 --> 00:27:36,787 OVERLY-LARGE INSTITUTION 590 00:27:36,822 --> 00:27:38,589 THAT'S NOT REALLY HELD ACCOUNTABLE. 591 00:27:38,624 --> 00:27:41,191 ♪♪ 592 00:27:41,227 --> 00:27:43,560 Narrator: ONE OF THE MORE BIZARRE SERVICES 593 00:27:43,596 --> 00:27:44,928 OFFERED BY THE VATICAN 594 00:27:44,964 --> 00:27:48,198 IS THE REMOVAL OF DEVILS AND DEMONIC SPIRITS, 595 00:27:48,234 --> 00:27:52,636 OR EXORCISM, AS IT'S MORE COMMONLY KNOWN. 596 00:27:52,672 --> 00:27:56,206 FOR CENTURIES NOW, VATICAN-TRAINED PRIESTS 597 00:27:56,242 --> 00:27:58,609 HAVE GONE OUT TO COMBAT EVIL 598 00:27:58,644 --> 00:28:01,512 AND RID ITS FOLLOWERS OF SATANIC FORCES 599 00:28:01,547 --> 00:28:03,414 ARMED ONLY WITH A CRUCIFIX, 600 00:28:03,449 --> 00:28:06,717 A BIBLE, AND SOME HOLY WATER, 601 00:28:06,752 --> 00:28:09,920 AND IT'S STILL GOING ON TODAY. 602 00:28:09,955 --> 00:28:14,558 IN FACT, THE VATICAN'S HEAD EXORCIST FOR THE LAST 30 YEARS, 603 00:28:14,593 --> 00:28:17,928 FATHER GABRIELE AMORTH, RECENTLY DIED. 604 00:28:17,963 --> 00:28:25,002 HE CLAIMED TO HAVE OVERSEEN OVER 180,000 EXORCISMS IN HIS LIFE. 605 00:28:25,037 --> 00:28:28,072 HE FAMOUSLY HATED THE HARRY POTTER NOVELS 606 00:28:28,107 --> 00:28:30,507 AND EVEN YOGA, SAYING, 607 00:28:30,543 --> 00:28:32,976 "PRACTICING YOGA IS SATANIC. 608 00:28:33,012 --> 00:28:36,847 IT LEADS TO EVIL, JUST LIKE READING HARRY POTTER." 609 00:28:36,882 --> 00:28:38,916 ♪♪ 610 00:28:38,951 --> 00:28:41,251 Howells: IT IS INTERESTING THE VATICAN 611 00:28:41,287 --> 00:28:43,854 DOES WHOLLY BELIEVE IN DEMONS AS AN ENTITY, 612 00:28:43,889 --> 00:28:47,057 AND THEY'VE GOT MORE EXORCISTS NOW THAN EVER. 613 00:28:47,093 --> 00:28:49,793 PRETTY MUCH EVERY DIOCESE HAS AN ASSIGNED EXORCIST 614 00:28:49,829 --> 00:28:52,162 WITHIN THEIR REGION THAT THEY CAN CALL UPON. 615 00:28:52,198 --> 00:28:54,698 THEY PERFORM THE RITE OF EXORCISM, 616 00:28:54,734 --> 00:28:58,836 WHICH IS A HUGE KIND OF DOCUMENT FULL OF LITANIES AND LATIN 617 00:28:58,871 --> 00:29:01,238 AND INVOKING THE SAINTS 618 00:29:01,273 --> 00:29:04,108 AND BASICALLY TRYING TO EXPEL THE DEMON. 619 00:29:04,143 --> 00:29:06,443 Picknett: THERE ARE NOW OVER 200 OF THEM 620 00:29:06,479 --> 00:29:07,811 EMPLOYED BY THE VATICAN. 621 00:29:07,847 --> 00:29:12,282 THEIR JOB IS TO CAST OUT DEMONS THAT POSSESS THEIR FLOCK 622 00:29:12,318 --> 00:29:14,685 THAT TAKE THEM OVER BODY AND SOUL. 623 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:18,455 AND THIS, OF COURSE, GOES BACK TO THE NEW TESTAMENT AND EARLIER 624 00:29:18,491 --> 00:29:21,558 WHERE YOU READ ABOUT JESUS CASTING OUT DEMONS. 625 00:29:21,594 --> 00:29:26,096 AND, OF COURSE, THIS IS VERY MUCH IN THAT TRADITION. 626 00:29:26,132 --> 00:29:29,266 IT SEEMS EXTRAORDINARY THAT, EVEN TODAY, YOU KNOW, 627 00:29:29,301 --> 00:29:31,068 RELATIVELY WELL INTO THE 21st CENTURY, 628 00:29:31,103 --> 00:29:32,970 THAT THE VATICAN IS STILL HAS 629 00:29:33,005 --> 00:29:35,572 SOME OF ITS PRIESTS PERFORMING EXORCISMS. 630 00:29:35,608 --> 00:29:40,711 IT SHOWS THAT THERE IS STILL THIS HUGE BELIEF 631 00:29:40,746 --> 00:29:44,348 IN WHAT WE'D ASSOCIATE WITH BEING VERY ANCIENT IDEAS 632 00:29:44,383 --> 00:29:45,716 OF EVIL SPIRITS AND DEMONS. 633 00:29:45,751 --> 00:29:47,751 THESE HAVE GOT A BIBLICAL CONCEPT, YOU KNOW, 634 00:29:47,787 --> 00:29:49,353 FROM THE OLD TESTAMENT. 635 00:29:49,388 --> 00:29:55,692 ♪♪ 636 00:29:55,728 --> 00:29:59,296 Narrator: PADRE CORTEA FROM MADRID IN SPAIN 637 00:29:59,331 --> 00:30:00,731 IS ONE OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH'S 638 00:30:00,766 --> 00:30:03,167 MOST PROLIFIC EXORCISTS. 639 00:30:03,202 --> 00:30:06,737 HE SAYS IT'S ALL VERY REAL. 640 00:30:06,772 --> 00:30:11,875 Cortea: I BELIEVE THERE ARE EVIL SPIRITS, 641 00:30:11,911 --> 00:30:15,112 AND THOSE EVIL SPIRITS 642 00:30:15,147 --> 00:30:19,750 MATCH PERFECTLY WITH THE CHARACTERS 643 00:30:19,785 --> 00:30:24,087 THAT APPEAR IN THE BIBLE AS DEMONS. 644 00:30:24,123 --> 00:30:30,527 I CAN SAY BY MY OWN EXPERIENCE THAT I RECEIVE PEOPLE EVERY DAY 645 00:30:30,563 --> 00:30:34,064 AND FROM ALL AROUND SPAIN. 646 00:30:34,099 --> 00:30:41,672 EVERY YEAR, TWO NEW CASES OF PERFECT DEMONIC POSSESSION 647 00:30:41,707 --> 00:30:43,807 WERE DISCOVERED. 648 00:30:43,843 --> 00:30:45,409 Dr. Papadopoulos: THE CHURCH PREDICATED ON THE BELIEF 649 00:30:45,444 --> 00:30:46,577 THAT THERE'S GOOD AND EVIL, 650 00:30:46,612 --> 00:30:48,045 AND YOU CAN'T HAVE ONE WITHOUT THE OTHER, 651 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:49,546 AND IF YOU BELIEVE THAT, 652 00:30:49,582 --> 00:30:52,950 THEN IT'S NOT SURPRISING THAT YOU WILL BELIEVE, 653 00:30:52,985 --> 00:30:54,985 YOU KNOW, IN DEMONS AND EVIL SPIRITS. 654 00:30:55,020 --> 00:30:57,421 THE CHURCH HAS ALSO PREDICATED ON THE IDEA 655 00:30:57,456 --> 00:30:59,156 THAT NOTHING EVER CHANGES, RIGHT? 656 00:30:59,191 --> 00:31:01,792 SO IT IS SO STRONG, IN A WAY, 657 00:31:01,827 --> 00:31:04,328 BECAUSE NOTHING IS EVER QUESTIONED. 658 00:31:04,363 --> 00:31:06,797 THEREFORE, THE EXORCISMS BECOME PART AND PARCEL 659 00:31:06,832 --> 00:31:09,600 OF THIS UNDERSTANDING. 660 00:31:09,635 --> 00:31:12,369 Gough: THE INTERESTING THING IS THE CHURCH DOES NOT DENY 661 00:31:12,404 --> 00:31:14,204 THAT THERE ARE DEMONIC ENERGIES. 662 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,773 THE FACT THAT THE RITE OF EXORCISM 663 00:31:16,809 --> 00:31:18,542 AND THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE TRAINED IN THAT 664 00:31:18,577 --> 00:31:21,111 IS ACTUALLY INCREASING YEAR ON YEAR, 665 00:31:21,146 --> 00:31:23,647 AND THAT'S NOT AN ARBITRARY SORT OF RITUAL. 666 00:31:23,682 --> 00:31:27,117 THAT'S AN 84-PAGE LATIN DOCUMENT THAT SAYS, 667 00:31:27,152 --> 00:31:28,552 "THIS IS HOW WE DO IT." 668 00:31:28,587 --> 00:31:31,321 SO THE FACT THAT THEY ACKNOWLEDGE EVIL 669 00:31:31,357 --> 00:31:34,191 JUST MAKES THIS SORT OF RUMBLINGS ABOUT THE FACT 670 00:31:34,226 --> 00:31:38,495 THAT THEY ARE EVIL MUCH MORE INTERESTING. 671 00:31:38,530 --> 00:31:41,598 Cortea: EXORCISM IS ONE OF THE FEW ONES 672 00:31:41,634 --> 00:31:44,935 THAT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR DEMONS 673 00:31:44,970 --> 00:31:48,739 WHO ARE SPEAKING THROUGH A HUMAN PERSON. 674 00:31:48,774 --> 00:31:53,844 THEY SPEAK MOST OF THE TIMES WITH A VERY UGLY VOICE, 675 00:31:53,879 --> 00:31:57,514 SOMETIMES WITH A LOT OF INTELLIGENCE OR A GREAT, 676 00:31:57,549 --> 00:32:00,550 GREAT KNOWLEDGE OF THEOLOGY. 677 00:32:00,586 --> 00:32:03,854 WE KNOW SOMETIMES THERE IS A DEMON THERE 678 00:32:03,889 --> 00:32:05,489 BECAUSE, FEW TIMES, 679 00:32:05,524 --> 00:32:09,726 WE HAVE THE PROOF THAT THAT PERSON 680 00:32:09,762 --> 00:32:14,932 WILL NOT KNOW A LITTLE PART OF THE BIBLE 681 00:32:14,967 --> 00:32:18,769 OR THE THEOLOGY. 682 00:32:18,804 --> 00:32:21,939 SEVERAL TIMES, I WAS SURPRISED THEY KNEW 683 00:32:21,974 --> 00:32:25,275 PERFECTLY WELL SOMETHING. 684 00:32:25,311 --> 00:32:28,011 IT WAS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE. 685 00:32:28,047 --> 00:32:30,881 Felix: THERE'S NO SUCH THINGS AS DEMONS. 686 00:32:30,916 --> 00:32:34,351 BASICALLY, THE CHURCH INVENTED THE DEVIL. 687 00:32:34,386 --> 00:32:37,587 BECAUSE THERE WAS GOOD, THEY HAD TO INVENT EVIL. 688 00:32:37,623 --> 00:32:41,491 BECAUSE THERE WAS PLUSES, THEY HAD TO INVENT MINUSES, 689 00:32:41,527 --> 00:32:44,695 AND DEMONS BECAME LITTLE DEVILS 690 00:32:44,730 --> 00:32:46,063 AND POSSESSED PEOPLE, 691 00:32:46,098 --> 00:32:48,632 AND ANYONE THAT WAS HEARING VOICES IN THEIR HEADS, 692 00:32:48,667 --> 00:32:51,868 PERHAPS A LITTLE BIT MEDIUMISTIC OR SENSITIVE, 693 00:32:51,904 --> 00:32:55,639 "OH, NO, IT WAS A DEMON WHISPERING IN THEIR EARS," 694 00:32:55,674 --> 00:32:58,675 AND IT NEEDED EXORCIST TO GET RID OF THEM. 695 00:32:58,711 --> 00:33:01,745 BEGONE, EVIL DEMON. 696 00:33:01,780 --> 00:33:04,481 ♪♪ 697 00:33:04,516 --> 00:33:06,550 Woman: RUMORS OF BANKING SCANDALS HAVE SWELLED AROUND 698 00:33:06,585 --> 00:33:08,118 THE VATICAN FOR YEARS. 699 00:33:08,153 --> 00:33:10,320 TODAY, THE HOLY SEE SAW THREE ARRESTS. 700 00:33:10,356 --> 00:33:12,289 Woman #2: FIVE PRIESTS HAVE BEEN INDICTED 701 00:33:12,324 --> 00:33:13,457 OVER AN EMBEZZLEMENT CASE 702 00:33:13,492 --> 00:33:14,925 IN THE NORTHWESTERN CITY OF SAPONA. 703 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,760 Man: VATICAN DEPARTMENTS 704 00:33:16,795 --> 00:33:19,863 HAD ALMOST FREE HANDS WITH THE FINANCES. 705 00:33:19,898 --> 00:33:23,500 Man #2: CHURCH'S MONEY SCANDALS STRETCH BACK DECADES. 706 00:33:23,535 --> 00:33:27,371 Narrator: FINANCIAL SCANDALS HAVE SWIRLED AROUND THE VATICAN 707 00:33:27,406 --> 00:33:30,374 EVER SINCE THE DEATH OF ROBERTO CALVI IN 1982 708 00:33:30,409 --> 00:33:33,076 ROCKED THE CATHOLIC CHURCH TO ITS CORE. 709 00:33:33,112 --> 00:33:35,746 CALVI WAS HEAD OF THE VATICAN BANK 710 00:33:35,781 --> 00:33:40,984 AND WAS FOUND HUNG UNDER BLACKFRIARS BRIDGE IN LONDON. 711 00:33:41,020 --> 00:33:43,086 JOHN DICKIE IS AN INVESTIGATIVE AUTHOR 712 00:33:43,122 --> 00:33:44,955 WHO HAS LOOKED LONG AND HARD 713 00:33:44,990 --> 00:33:49,059 INTO THE SECRET WORLD OF VATICAN FINANCES. 714 00:33:49,094 --> 00:33:54,564 HIS BOOKS HAVE INCLUDED "COSA NOSTRA," "DARKEST ITALY" 715 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,000 AND "BLOOD BROTHERHOODS." 716 00:33:57,036 --> 00:34:01,038 ACCORDING TO DICKIE, VAST SUMS OF MONEY HAVE BEEN STOLEN 717 00:34:01,073 --> 00:34:04,508 AND MISAPPROPRIATED BY THE CHURCH IN RECENT YEARS. 718 00:34:04,543 --> 00:34:10,013 THE FINANCES OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH ARE AN ABSOLUTE LABYRINTH 719 00:34:10,049 --> 00:34:13,583 BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT ONE POT 720 00:34:13,619 --> 00:34:16,787 OF CASH UNDER THE CONTROL OF THE POPE. 721 00:34:16,822 --> 00:34:19,790 YOU'VE GOT PARISHES, DIOCESE. 722 00:34:19,825 --> 00:34:22,626 YOU'VE GOT THE HOLY SEE, 723 00:34:22,661 --> 00:34:25,395 WHICH IS LIKE THE POPE'S MISSION TO THE WORLD. 724 00:34:25,431 --> 00:34:29,266 YOU GOT THE VATICAN CITY, WHICH IS A MINI COUNTRY, 725 00:34:29,301 --> 00:34:32,335 AND YOU'VE GOT THE CHURCHES OF ALL OF THE DIFFERENT COUNTRIES, 726 00:34:32,371 --> 00:34:35,605 AND THEN YOU'VE GOT ALL OF THE DIFFERENT RELIGIOUS ORDERS. 727 00:34:35,641 --> 00:34:38,909 NOW, OVER THE CENTURIES, ALL OF THESE BODIES 728 00:34:38,944 --> 00:34:41,278 HAVE ACCUMULATED DONATIONS 729 00:34:41,313 --> 00:34:44,214 AND BUILDINGS AND CHURCHES, 730 00:34:44,249 --> 00:34:46,650 AND NOBODY HAS KEPT TABS ON THIS STUFF. 731 00:34:46,685 --> 00:34:49,086 NOBODY KNOWS HOW MUCH MONEY THE CHURCH HAS GOT, 732 00:34:49,121 --> 00:34:51,588 LEAST OF ALL THE CHURCH. 733 00:34:51,623 --> 00:34:54,257 Howells: FOR CENTURIES, YOU WOULD HAVE ONE POPE 734 00:34:54,293 --> 00:34:56,526 WHO WOULD SPEND EVERYTHING INTO THE COFFERS, 735 00:34:56,562 --> 00:34:58,128 AND THE NEXT POPE WOULD COME IN AND TAX 736 00:34:58,163 --> 00:34:59,896 AND REBUILD AND PUT ALL THE MONEY BACK IN. 737 00:34:59,932 --> 00:35:01,431 AND THE NEXT POPE WOULD COME IN AND START 738 00:35:01,467 --> 00:35:03,366 BUILDING LAVISH WORKS AND BUILDINGS. 739 00:35:03,402 --> 00:35:05,535 AND THAT STILL APPEARS TO GO ON. 740 00:35:05,571 --> 00:35:08,205 AND THE CURRENT POPE IS VERY HUMBLE, 741 00:35:08,240 --> 00:35:10,607 AND HE'S VERY AGAINST SPENDING AND LIVES 742 00:35:10,642 --> 00:35:12,876 WITH A SENSE OF HUMILITY. 743 00:35:12,911 --> 00:35:15,112 THE PROBLEM THE VATICAN HAS GOT ITSELF INTO, 744 00:35:15,147 --> 00:35:16,413 WHICH IS ONE OF THE REASONS 745 00:35:16,448 --> 00:35:18,115 I THINK THEY CHOSE THE CURRENT POPE, 746 00:35:18,150 --> 00:35:20,417 IS IT HAS BECOME COMPLETELY INCONGRUENT 747 00:35:20,452 --> 00:35:22,018 WITH CHRISTIAN VALUES, 748 00:35:22,054 --> 00:35:25,355 BASIC CHRISTIAN VALUES OF HUMILITY AND LOVE AND POVERTY 749 00:35:25,390 --> 00:35:27,257 AND WHY JESUS ACTED AND BEHAVED. 750 00:35:27,292 --> 00:35:28,725 HE NEVER KEPT ANY MONEY. 751 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,028 HE GAVE EVERYTHING TO THE POOR, AND THEN YOU LOOK AT THE VATICAN 752 00:35:32,064 --> 00:35:34,297 AND THE BILLIONS OF POUNDS WORTH OF WORKS OF ART, 753 00:35:34,333 --> 00:35:38,435 THOSE STATUES AND DOCUMENTS, ALL THIS WEALTH AND LAVISHNESS. 754 00:35:38,470 --> 00:35:40,537 SO WHAT ARE WE TO MAKE OF THAT? 755 00:35:40,572 --> 00:35:44,307 ♪♪ 756 00:35:44,343 --> 00:35:47,677 Narrator: AUTHOR JOHN DICKIE REVEALS THE HUGE IMPACT 757 00:35:47,713 --> 00:35:50,614 AND DAMAGE OF THE VATICAN FINANCIAL SCANDALS 758 00:35:50,649 --> 00:35:52,782 AND HOW THE CHURCH IN ROME IS NOW 759 00:35:52,818 --> 00:35:55,886 BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR ITS ACTIONS. 760 00:35:55,921 --> 00:35:59,756 AND WE EXPLORE WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS FOR THE HOLY SEE 761 00:35:59,791 --> 00:36:02,025 AND HOW IT WILL CHANGE OR NOT 762 00:36:02,060 --> 00:36:04,227 TO FACE THE 21st CENTURY, 763 00:36:04,263 --> 00:36:08,665 COMING UP IN THE FINAL PART OF "FORBIDDEN HISTORY." 764 00:36:08,700 --> 00:36:10,167 ♪♪ 765 00:36:11,570 --> 00:36:13,403 Narrator: FOR YEARS NOW, THE VATICAN HAS BEEN ACCUSED 766 00:36:13,438 --> 00:36:16,840 OF ALL MANNER OF SINS, LIES, AND COVER-UPS. 767 00:36:16,875 --> 00:36:20,777 SOME OF IT THEY HAVE ADMITTED TO AND APOLOGIZED FOR, 768 00:36:20,812 --> 00:36:23,547 BUT MUCH, THEY HAVE NOT. 769 00:36:23,582 --> 00:36:28,718 THE RESULT IS A HOLY SEE UNDER THE SPOTLIGHT AS NEVER BEFORE 770 00:36:28,754 --> 00:36:31,054 AND A TESTING TIME FOR THE POPE 771 00:36:31,089 --> 00:36:33,690 AND HIS SENIOR CARDINALS. 772 00:36:33,725 --> 00:36:35,926 ♪♪ 773 00:36:35,961 --> 00:36:37,394 Dickie: POPE FRANCIS IS UNDOUBTED. 774 00:36:37,429 --> 00:36:39,829 HE CAME IN ON A BRIEF 775 00:36:39,865 --> 00:36:42,499 TO INTRODUCE FINANCIAL TRANSPARENCY, 776 00:36:42,534 --> 00:36:47,404 AND HE'S CERTAINLY DONE THAT AT THE CENTRAL LEVEL, 777 00:36:47,439 --> 00:36:50,373 PARTICULARLY AT THE LEVEL OF THE VATICAN BANK -- 778 00:36:50,409 --> 00:36:53,944 THE I.O.R. -- WHICH FOR A LONG TIME, 779 00:36:53,979 --> 00:36:55,912 WAS LIKE AN OFFSHORE BANK. 780 00:36:55,948 --> 00:36:58,782 YOU KNOW, THERE WERE POLITICAL BRIBES BEING LAUNDERED 781 00:36:58,817 --> 00:37:01,218 THROUGH THE VATICAN BANK, IN THE 1990s, 782 00:37:01,253 --> 00:37:03,920 MAFIA MONEY -- SCANDALOUS. 783 00:37:03,956 --> 00:37:06,122 AND A LOT HAS BEEN DONE 784 00:37:06,158 --> 00:37:09,526 TO MAKE THE VATICAN BANK MUCH MORE TRANSPARENT, 785 00:37:09,561 --> 00:37:13,396 BUT POPE FRANCIS HAS GOT A BIG, BIG JOB AHEAD OF HIM. 786 00:37:13,432 --> 00:37:16,700 IT WOULD PROBABLY TAKE 10 REFORMING POPES 787 00:37:16,735 --> 00:37:21,137 AND NOT JUST ONE TO REALLY GET TO THE BOTTOM 788 00:37:21,173 --> 00:37:24,641 OF ALL OF THE MEANDERING 789 00:37:24,676 --> 00:37:28,745 UNDERGROUND RIVERS OF MONEY 790 00:37:28,780 --> 00:37:33,717 WITHIN THE CHURCH IN THE BROAD SENSE. 791 00:37:33,752 --> 00:37:35,919 Gough: EVERY NEW POPE, INCLUDING THE CURRENT ONE, 792 00:37:35,954 --> 00:37:38,622 CLAIMS THAT THEY ARE GOING TO REFORM THE CHURCH. 793 00:37:38,657 --> 00:37:40,023 YEAH, RIGHT. 794 00:37:40,058 --> 00:37:43,360 THIS IS THE WEALTHIEST INSTITUTION THAT'S EVER BEEN. 795 00:37:43,395 --> 00:37:45,495 THEY ANSWER TO NO ONE. 796 00:37:45,530 --> 00:37:48,665 THERE'S NO TRANSPARENCY ABOUT THEIR ACTIONS, 797 00:37:48,700 --> 00:37:51,201 SO I LIKE THE FACT THAT HE'S TRYING, 798 00:37:51,236 --> 00:37:53,069 BUT GOOD LUCK TO HIM. 799 00:37:53,105 --> 00:37:55,639 ♪♪ 800 00:37:55,674 --> 00:37:59,075 Narrator: SO TODAY, THE VATICAN IS STILL FACING 801 00:37:59,111 --> 00:38:02,112 SERIOUS ALLEGATIONS ON A NUMBER OF FRONTS 802 00:38:02,147 --> 00:38:05,548 AS IT HAS FOR MUCH OF ITS THOUSAND-YEAR EXISTENCE. 803 00:38:05,584 --> 00:38:08,285 IN EACH CASE, THE VATICAN HAS BEEN FORCED 804 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,021 TIME AFTER TIME TO APOLOGIZE 805 00:38:11,056 --> 00:38:14,057 AND PAY HUGE FINES IN COMPENSATION, 806 00:38:14,092 --> 00:38:17,927 YET CONTINUES TO COURT NEW CONTROVERSY. 807 00:38:17,963 --> 00:38:21,398 HOWEVER, WHAT IS STILL UNCLEAR IS WHAT WAS NOT DISCOVERED 808 00:38:21,433 --> 00:38:23,066 OR NOT REVEALED 809 00:38:23,101 --> 00:38:26,603 IN THE VARIOUS ARCHIVE OPENINGS. 810 00:38:26,638 --> 00:38:27,971 MANY CONTINUE TO BELIEVE 811 00:38:28,006 --> 00:38:30,707 THAT THE HEAVILY-GUARDED VAULTS UNDER THE VATICAN 812 00:38:30,742 --> 00:38:32,876 CONTAIN HERETICAL MATERIAL, 813 00:38:32,911 --> 00:38:35,745 INCLUDING ALTERNATIVE CHRISTIAN GOSPELS, 814 00:38:35,781 --> 00:38:39,082 CAPTURED GOSPELS FROM OTHER COMPETING RELIGIONS, 815 00:38:39,117 --> 00:38:40,784 AND EVEN CORE RELICS 816 00:38:40,819 --> 00:38:43,219 SUCH AS THE ARK OF THE COVENANT 817 00:38:43,255 --> 00:38:46,656 AND THE HUMAN REMAINS OF JESUS HIMSELF. 818 00:38:46,692 --> 00:38:51,361 STRICTLY NO BROWSING IS ALLOWED IN THE SECRET ARCHIVES. 819 00:38:51,396 --> 00:38:54,664 YOU'RE ONLY PERMITTED ACCESS TO THE SPECIFIC DOCUMENTS 820 00:38:54,700 --> 00:38:57,567 OR OBJECTS THAT YOU ASK TO SEE 821 00:38:57,602 --> 00:38:59,736 AND THAT THE VATICAN HAVE CONFIRMED 822 00:38:59,771 --> 00:39:02,038 THAT THEY ACTUALLY HAVE. 823 00:39:02,074 --> 00:39:05,241 SOME HAVE ACCUSED THIS AS BEING THE PERFECT WAY 824 00:39:05,277 --> 00:39:08,478 TO HIDE ANYTHING THEY LIKE. 825 00:39:08,513 --> 00:39:12,382 WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TODAY IS THAT IT IS SLOWLY ENTERING 826 00:39:12,417 --> 00:39:14,217 INTO THE 21st CENTURY 827 00:39:14,252 --> 00:39:17,153 IN WHICH IT'S BEING HELD TO ACCOUNT MORE. 828 00:39:17,189 --> 00:39:18,588 I THINK PEOPLE ARE MORE CYNICAL. 829 00:39:18,623 --> 00:39:20,090 THEY ARE LESS TRUSTING, 830 00:39:20,125 --> 00:39:22,525 AND EVEN PEOPLE WHO ARE DEVOUT CATHOLICS 831 00:39:22,561 --> 00:39:24,094 LOOK AT THE VATICAN AND GO, 832 00:39:24,129 --> 00:39:27,797 "IS THIS REPRESENTING WHAT I WANT IN AN INSTITUTION 833 00:39:27,833 --> 00:39:30,500 THAT IS THERE TO PROMULGATE AND FURTHER MY FAITH?" 834 00:39:30,535 --> 00:39:32,802 AND THESE ARE REASONABLE QUESTIONS TO ASK. 835 00:39:32,838 --> 00:39:35,538 Dr. Papadopoulos: THERE'S A LOT ABOUT THE VATICAN THAT'S REALLY, 836 00:39:35,574 --> 00:39:37,107 WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, QUITE ARCHAIC. 837 00:39:37,142 --> 00:39:39,409 IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, THIS FEEDS INTO 838 00:39:39,444 --> 00:39:42,779 ONE OF THE CORE NOTIONS OF RELIGION IN GENERAL. 839 00:39:42,814 --> 00:39:44,748 YOU DO NOT CHANGE. 840 00:39:44,783 --> 00:39:47,617 YOU KNOW, YOU GOT IT RIGHT, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE MESSIAH CAME 841 00:39:47,652 --> 00:39:49,686 AND SAID THIS IS HOW IT WAS, AND YOU DON'T QUESTION 842 00:39:49,721 --> 00:39:52,822 AND YOU DON'T CHANGE, BECAUSE IF YOU CHANGE ONE THING, 843 00:39:52,858 --> 00:39:54,691 THEN EVERYTHING BEGINS TO BE QUESTIONED. 844 00:39:54,726 --> 00:39:57,694 AND I GUESS THIS IS VERY MUCH WHAT THEY LIVE BY. 845 00:39:57,729 --> 00:40:02,632 Felix: THE WHOLE JESUS STORY IS MADE UP, 846 00:40:02,667 --> 00:40:05,435 AND EVERYTHING FROM THE 10 COMMANDMENTS, 847 00:40:05,470 --> 00:40:08,271 THE SEVEN DEADLY SINS, FOUR MORTAL SINS, PURGATORY, 848 00:40:08,306 --> 00:40:10,206 HELLFIRE, DAMNATION, 849 00:40:10,242 --> 00:40:12,976 BEELZEBUB, BAPHOMET, BAAL, THE DEVIL, DEMONS, 850 00:40:13,011 --> 00:40:14,978 THE ANTICHRIST, AND WITCHES 851 00:40:15,013 --> 00:40:19,883 ARE ALL MADE UP TO KEEP US UNDER CONTROL THROUGH FEAR. 852 00:40:19,918 --> 00:40:22,285 Gough: THERE'S NO DEFENDING THE CORRUPTION IN THE VATICAN 853 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:23,520 FROM A FINANCIAL DEALINGS 854 00:40:23,555 --> 00:40:26,289 TO THE VERY, VERY PUBLIC CHILD MOLESTATION, 855 00:40:26,324 --> 00:40:28,525 BUT THAT HASN'T STOPPED THEM. 856 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,461 I THINK THEIR DAYS ARE NUMBERED. 857 00:40:31,496 --> 00:40:32,962 IMAGINE A TIME BOMB. 858 00:40:32,998 --> 00:40:35,532 A WHISTLE-BLOWER IS GOING TO EMERGE, 859 00:40:35,567 --> 00:40:37,867 THE EQUIVALENT OF EDWIN SNOWDEN, 860 00:40:37,903 --> 00:40:39,869 AND THE WHOLE THING IS GOING TO BE EXPOSED -- 861 00:40:39,905 --> 00:40:41,504 NOT A FEW DOCUMENTS THAT A PRIEST LEAKS 862 00:40:41,540 --> 00:40:43,406 TO THE MEDIA -- EVERYTHING. 863 00:40:43,442 --> 00:40:44,941 IT'S JUST A MATTER OF TIME 864 00:40:44,976 --> 00:40:48,678 BEFORE THE WHOLE THING TUMBLES DOWN. 865 00:40:48,713 --> 00:40:52,148 Narrator: IT'S BEEN MIRED IN SCANDAL AFTER SCANDAL 866 00:40:52,184 --> 00:40:54,517 FOR THE LAST 30 YEARS OR SO -- 867 00:40:54,553 --> 00:40:59,422 MONEY LAUNDERING, THEFT, BULLYING, CHILD ABUSE. 868 00:40:59,458 --> 00:41:03,760 NO MATTER HOW MUCH IS THROWN AT THE VATICAN, IT SHRUGS IT OFF 869 00:41:03,795 --> 00:41:06,796 AND SEEMS TO REMAIN AS STRONG AS EVER. 870 00:41:06,832 --> 00:41:09,098 ITS CRITICS HAVE WRITTEN IT OFF FOR DECADES, 871 00:41:09,134 --> 00:41:10,366 PREDICTING ITS COLLAPSE, 872 00:41:10,402 --> 00:41:13,102 AND YET, IN SOME PARTS OF THE WORLD, 873 00:41:13,138 --> 00:41:15,772 THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS ACTUALLY GROWING. 874 00:41:15,807 --> 00:41:19,375 THE NEW POPE, FRANCIS, IS SAID TO BE CLEANING UP, 875 00:41:19,411 --> 00:41:23,346 BUT WHETHER HE WILL SUCCEED, IT'S TOO EARLY TO SAY. 876 00:41:23,381 --> 00:41:25,748 ONE THING IS FOR CERTAIN -- 877 00:41:25,784 --> 00:41:28,117 THE NEXT CHAPTER IN THE VATICAN'S HISTORY 878 00:41:28,153 --> 00:41:31,320 IS GOING TO BE AN INTERESTING ONE. 71955

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