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Freeman: Death will someday
come for us all.
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[ Thunder crashes ]
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But are the dead
really gone forever?
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Advances in medicine and
bold leaps in computer science
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may soon allow the dead
to walk the earth again...
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or survive in some
other strange, new form.
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Can we resurrect the dead?
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Space, time, life itself.
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The secrets of the cosmos
lie through the wormhole.
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♪ Through the Wormhole 03x06 ♪
Can We Resurrect the Dead?
Original Air Date on July 11, 2012
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== sync, corrected by elderman ==
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Death is
our ultimate destination,
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a place from which
no one ever returns.
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But what if
death was not the end?
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We each have
a genetic blueprint,
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one that science can now read.
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Soon, it may be possible to
reproduce my body after I die.
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But what about the lifetime
of knowledge and experience
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contained in here?
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Will we ever have the tools
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to raise body and soul
from the dead?
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All of us must eventually come
face-to-face with death.
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No matter how hard we wish
to hold on to someone we love,
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sometimes,
we just have to let go.
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I had a dog
I loved to go exploring with.
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[ Whines ]
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But worms
had eaten away at his heart.
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The pain of saying goodbye
forever cuts deep,
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but it is unavoidable.
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Or is it?
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[ Breathes deeply ]
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[ Flatline ]
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Freeman:
This patient is dead.
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He has no heartbeat,
no respiration,
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no blood flowing
through his heart.
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But today, he will be brought
back to life by this man,
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heart surgeon John Elefteriades
of Yale-New Haven hospital.
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John regularly kills his
patients, then resurrects them.
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Once I got to medical school
and residency,
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heart surgery was the only thing
I ever wanted to do.
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At that time, it was kind of
like being a fighter pilot
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within medicine,
if you know what I mean.
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It was exploring the frontiers.
It was high-risk.
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Freeman: John still flies at the
edge of the surgical horizon.
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Today, he's trying to repair
a severely damaged heart,
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a heart that can't be fixed
while blood flows through it.
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The heart must be shut down,
but doing so
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will cut off the blood supply
to the patient's brain,
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starving it of oxygen.
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John needs 45 minutes
to operate.
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At normal temperatures,
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the brain will begin to die
after just five minutes.
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John's radical solution
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is to freeze the patient into
a state of suspended animation.
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[ Flatline ]
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The brain doesn't tolerate
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more than a momentary
interruption of blood flow.
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If the interruption
of blood flow
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goes beyond several minutes,
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then the brain cells
start to die,
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and that's where the protection
of low temperature
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gives us the opportunity
to protect
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the very vulnerable brain.
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Freeman: The patient's warm blood
has been drained from his body,
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run through a bypass machine
filled with ice,
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then pumped back through
his veins and arteries.
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This has gradually cooled him
down to 18 degrees Centigrade --
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55 Fahrenheit.
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The activity of his cells
and neurons cannot be measured.
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If you had
a general practitioner
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or a cardiologist
or somebody come in
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and use their regular criteria
for life or death,
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all the criteria for death
would be fulfilled.
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At this point, the heart-lung
machine and the respirator --
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the devices that keep him
alive -- are shut off --
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no breathing,
no blood pumping --
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a condition virtually identical
to death.
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[ Flatline ]
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John has 45 minutes to operate
in safety.
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After an hour,
brain damage will set in.
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Now his decades of experience
come into play.
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We're still
in suspended animation.
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So we've got 15 minutes to go
for safety.
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Freeman: Finally,
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John and his team
manage to complete the repairs
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with seven minutes to spare.
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The patient has been
virtually dead for 38 minutes.
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They slowly bring back
life support,
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returning him
to the land of the living with
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no damage to the brain.
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Each and every day, I'm amazed
that this can be done.
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The definition of death
has changed, really,
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and death is death
when it's permanent.
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But those criteria
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in this very, very special
high-technology scenario
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of suspended animation
or deep hypothermic arrest --
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those criteria for death
don't really apply.
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Freeman:
But can we bring life back
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to those who die
in less controlled situations?
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[ Thunder crashes ]
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Lance Becker is the director of
the University of Pennsylvania's
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Center
for Resuscitation Science.
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He believes
the key to resurrection
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is buried deep within our cells.
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Well, what we've known for just
literally thousands of years
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is that, if you keep meat cold,
it keeps longer.
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The decay process, which is
actually that death process --
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[slowly] All of those things
are slowed down
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in the cold setting.
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[ Normal voice ]
When the temperature comes down,
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the cells don't need
as much oxygen,
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they don't metabolize as much,
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and they essentially sort of go
into slow-mo, hibernation-style.
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Freeman: Your body is made of tens
of trillions of living cells.
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Regulatory genes
tell these cells how to behave.
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Think of them
as the cells' operating system.
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At the end of a cell's life,
the genes produce
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destructive enzymes
that tear the cell apart.
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Every day, roughly 50 billion
of your cells die.
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When something
goes very wrong --
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say, you suffer
a cardiac arrest --
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the injured cells
sound an alarm,
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telling their healthy neighbors
it's time to die.
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This sets off
a wave of cellular suicide
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that spreads rapidly
across the body.
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We don't die by accident.
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There's biological programming
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that actually controls
the way we die.
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And in that programming
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is the opportunity
for modifying that program
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so that we can alter
the outcome --
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bring someone back to life.
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Freeman: To find out what
triggers the death program,
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Lance took healthy cells
and starved them of oxygen.
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He expected
most of the cells to die
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and the survivors to flourish
when oxygen was restored.
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Dr. Becker:
So, what I found
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was the opposite of what
we thought we would find,
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which is the cells
without oxygen
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just sort of laid there.
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They didn't do anything,
but they didn't die.
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But what happened was, when
we reoxygenated those cells,
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that's when cell death occurred.
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So it is a little bit ironic
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that oxygen, the molecule that
we love and that we live with,
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becomes the molecule
that drives death.
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Freeman: Somehow,
reintroducing oxygen into cells
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triggers the death signal
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that causes them
to commit mass suicide.
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[ Grunting ]
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Freezing seems to interrupt
this process.
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Lance pressed on,
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knowing that, if he found
the death signal's source,
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he might be able to stop it
from transmitting
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without the need for freezing.
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As we began to ask ourselves,
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"What could explain
this sort of bizarre behavior?"
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We started seeing
cellular pathways.
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All of the paths led us to
the organelle inside our cells
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that we call the mitochondria.
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Freeman: Mitochondria lie deep within
every single cell of your body.
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They take the food you eat
and the oxygen you breathe
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and convert them
into chemical energy.
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Dr. Becker: In some ways, it's a little bit
like a nuclear power plant.
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And you know how,
in a nuclear power plant,
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there are rods that come together and
they produce the heat,
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and if you don't control
that process,
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you end up with Chernobyl.
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What happens is, after
one mitochondria goes nuclear,
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it starts to trigger
a chain reaction
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that amplifies the death signal,
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and that death signal can be
spread throughout the body.
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[ Gags ]
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Freeman:
Lance and his team suspect
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we might be able to stop
this chain reaction
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by poisoning our mitochondria
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with sulfide, cyanide,
and carbon monoxide.
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A finely calibrated dose
of these toxins
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might disarm the death signal.
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It will be quicker
than freezing,
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and it could reverse
a cellular meltdown.
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So, ideally,
what we'd like to do
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is we'd like to get a few
of those molecules on board
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as we're beginning to bring
oxygen back to the patient.
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We think we can restart
that mitochondria,
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have it convert back
to producing energy
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instead of producing death.
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Freeman: These treatments
are still highly experimental.
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But if doctors can silence
the death signal,
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it may soon be commonplace
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to revive the dying
and the recently dead.
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[ Thunder crashes ]
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Medical science
has already proven
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that the dead can live again
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under a very controlled
set of circumstances.
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But can it take us further?
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What if we could grow the dead
back to life?
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Imagine how much richer
humanity might be
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if we could raise Einstein
or Mozart from the grave
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or how much it would mean
to us personally
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if we could bring back
the loved ones we have lost?
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It may be possible.
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Cloning has opened up
a new road to resurrection...
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But should we take it?
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Bob Lanza was born into
a working-class Boston family.
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Today, he owns an island
in Massachusetts
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and lives
in a sprawling compound
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that's part house,
part natural-history museum.
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These are the fruits
of a career in biotechnology.
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Lanza:
Here's a brontosaurus femur.
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One of the first things people ask me
when they come into the house
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is, "Bob,
are you gonna clone that?"
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And I tell them,
"you can't clone from stone.
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You need a living cell."
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Freeman:
Over the last decade,
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Bob has successfully cloned
mice, cows, cats, dogs,
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pigs, sheep, and horses.
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In 2001, he used frozen cells
to successfully resurrect
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an extinct southeast Asian ox
called a Gaur,
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using an American cow
as a surrogate mother.
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Everyone said,
"no, that won't work.
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You can't clone one species
using the egg from another one."
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And I said, "no, no, no. If
we do it and it's close enough,
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we should get it to work."
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So I actually took skin cells
from the Gaur,
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and I actually put the DNA
into an ordinary cow egg.
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And then we created these
spectacular little Gaur embryos,
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and we shipped them off to Iowa,
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where they were implanted
into an ordinary cow.
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And it turns out
that, 10 months later,
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we had this beautiful
little baby Gaur that was born.
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It looked like a little
baby reindeer -- just adorable.
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Freeman: But where Bob sees
beauty, others see monstrosity.
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Opponents of cloning
say he's playing God.
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Bob doesn't see it that way.
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Cloning really
isn't all that unusual.
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For thousands of years,
people have been cloning plants.
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You can actually start by taking
a clipping from a plant --
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you get
some of the genetic material --
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and then add
a little nutrients...
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...get it to root,
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and to basically clone
an entire new organism.
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Freeman: Humanity has mastered
the cloning of plants,
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and we are now working our way
through the animal kingdom.
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Could we someday take
the DNA of dead people
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and bring their bodies
back to life?
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Can we cultivate a garden
of resurrected humans?
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[ Owl hooting ]
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Imagine a world
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where a woman could bring back
her deceased husband
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by giving birth to him...
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or a man could bring back
his mother
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and raise her as his daughter.
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If we have a living cell
of a dead person,
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certainly, we could, in theory,
clone that individual.
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We published a paper
about a year or two ago
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where we show we can actually
now create human embryos
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that are genetically identical
to a normal embryo.
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The only way
you would really know
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whether you could clone
a human being
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is to actually implant
that embryo
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into the uterus
of a surrogate mother.
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Of course,
we cannot implant those --
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that would be considered
unethical --
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so it's unclear
whether or not they would --
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would give rise
to a human being.
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Freeman: Society has vehemently rejected
reproductive human cloning.
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In this climate,
it is extremely difficult
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for geneticists to obtain
funding for their research.
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There is
also a shortage of material.
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Lanza: So, one of the problems
with human cloning
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is the supply of eggs.
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So, with a mouse or a cow,
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we can get literally hundreds,
if not thousands, of eggs.
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We can go to the slaughterhouse,
for instance,
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and get them for a dollar each
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and get thousands
of these cow eggs.
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With the humans, it took us over
a year just to get five eggs.
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Freeman:
Even if you had the eggs,
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it could take hundreds
of pregnancies
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to perfect human cloning,
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a process that could result
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in scores of babies
with horrific genetic damage.
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Lanza:
It'd be very much like --
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if you wanted to clone
your child,
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it'd be like sending him up
in a rocket
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with a 50-50 chance
it would blow up.
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Freeman: In most of the world,
cloning humans is not illegal.
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One day, a rogue scientist
will pull it off.
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But cloning a person is not the
same as duplicating a person.
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Lanza: A lot of people,
you know, who have their pets --
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they want to often clone them,
and they want Fluffy back.
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And what I tell them is, "you're
not gonna get Fluffy back."
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As a matter of fact, we actually
clone entire herds of cows
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from a single cell
from the same animal,
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and they develop
a whole hierarchy,
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just like we do in humans.
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So you have timid cows
and aggressive cows,
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and they're all clones.
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So they develop
their own behavioral patters.
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So the environment
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has a very profound impact
on your development.
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Freeman: Let's say we decide
to take DNA from Einstein's hair
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and grow some new Einsteins.
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Those clones would not be the
man who wrote "E = MC squared."
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Each would have
a unique personality
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shaped by his environment.
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Clones are like identical twins
born years apart --
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they may be similar,
but they will not be the same.
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Perhaps the key
to life after death
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is not to grow
an entirely new body,
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but to resurrect
the one you have.
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At the moment, our society
does not permit human cloning,
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but that could change.
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In the meantime,
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biotechnologists have another
trick up their sleeves --
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resurrecting people
piece by piece.
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It's an approach that
could transform medical science
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and blur the line
between life and death.
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The revolution begins here,
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in a laboratory
the University of Minnesota.
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This is where Dr. Doris Taylor
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breathes life back
into the dead.
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Dr. Taylor:
I just want to change the world.
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I want to change the world
for people with disease.
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I also have a brother
who's chronically ill,
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and that's probably influenced
everything I've done in my life.
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Tipler: Doris is changing the
world by growing new body parts
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from the shells of old ones.
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She takes organs from cadavers
and reanimates them
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using a method drawn from an
unlikely source -- architecture.
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Dr. Taylor:
The bricks in a building
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are just like the cells
in an organ --
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different kinds,
different shapes.
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And they make rooms,
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and the rooms are like
the chambers of a heart.
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They're connected by doorways,
like the valves.
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They have hallways,
like the arteries and veins.
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Essentially,
you can think of an organ
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just like you think
of a building.
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Freeman: Just as buildings
can be rebuilt brick by brick,
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Doris believes bodies
can be rebuilt cell by cell.
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In building construction,
they use a scaffold that --
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like you see here --
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to essentially provide access
to otherwise inaccessible areas
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and to create a framework
for what they're gonna build.
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We essentially do the same thing
in the laboratory with an organ.
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We create a framework
on which we can put cells.
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Freeman:
Doris reanimates major organs,
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including
livers, lungs, and hearts.
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Dr. Taylor:
This is a ghost heart.
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This is essentially
the framework, or scaffold,
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on which the cells sit.
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And by washing out
all the cells,
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what we have left is a scaffold
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that we can repopulate with
cells to now build a new organ.
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So, essentially, this scaffold
is what tells cells
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how to join together
and become a heart.
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Freeman: What happens
when you put fresh cells
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into a decellularized heart?
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This -- a modern miracle.
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Right now,
if you need a body part,
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you face the grim prospect
of organ rejection,
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but Doris' replacement organs --
heart, kidneys, and livers --
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will be tailor-made
for your body.
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We'll take an organ from a pig,
strip all the cells,
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take your stem cells,
put them in that organ,
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and build something
that matches you.
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Freeman:
So, if Doris and her team
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can bring hearts and livers back
from the dead,
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could they also reanimate
a human brain?
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Dr. Taylor: Now, could we build
a cluster of neurons
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and glial cells
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and everything that looks like
part of a brain or a brain?
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I have no doubt that, one day,
we'll be able to do that.
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Can we resurrect you and
who you are -- your personality?
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I don't think we know
how to do that yet.
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Freeman: It's more likely this technology
will be used
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to replace damaged sections
of the brain,
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perhaps even extending its life
beyond the rest of the body.
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[ Thunder crashing ]
But can we go even further?
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As we die, could we have
our brains transplanted
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into healthy donor bodies?
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[ Thunder crashes ]
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I suspect the biggest challenge
to a brain transplant
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is keeping it alive
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during the time of removing it
from an individual
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and all the connections that
would have to be recapitulated
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in a transplanted individual,
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because unlike the heart,
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it's not just about hooking up
the blood supply.
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It'd also be about hooking up
the spinal cord,
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hooking up all the nerves.
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I can't imagine how we could
make all those connections
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in a timely way
that maintain function.
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Freeman: But do we even need
to have physical brains?
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The key to resurrection
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is to restore what
fundamentally makes us unique --
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the contents of our minds.
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As technology advances, the
prospect of copying our brains
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becomes more and more likely.
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Bringing the dead back to life
may just be a matter
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of combining
the right zeroes and ones.
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Our lives are continually
monitored by technology.
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Almost everything we do
leaves a digital trail.
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This immense library
of information
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may still exist
long after we die.
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If we gathered up a lifetime
of these digital footprints,
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could we use them to bring
someone back from the dead?
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These students
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could be the first humans
to rise from the dead.
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They call themselves
extreme lifeloggers.
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And they are digitally archiving
their existence.
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Everything they see and hear,
wherever they go,
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whomever they are with,
how fast their hearts beat,
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even how much they sweat --
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it's all recorded
onto hard drives
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at Dublin City University.
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This is the brainchild
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of search-engine specialist
Cathal Gurrin.
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Hey, how did it go?
Pretty well.
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Woman: It was fun.
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How about the weather -- was it cold?
Bit cold.
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You got the devices. We can have a look?
Yes.
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Accelerometer.
Yes, accelerometer.
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Here is mine.
Oh, thank you.
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And the camera.
Camera. Great.
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Thanks.
Let's have a look.
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Freeman: Cathal has recorded
his own life for 5 1/2 years.
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So far, he has gathered
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over 8 1/2 million images
and sensor readings.
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So here's, for example,
a typical day in my life --
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on the 10th of November.
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Here you can see
what I did on that day.
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I got up in the morning.
I made breakfast.
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I went to my office.
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I worked pretty much all
of the day, with a coffee break,
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and then, driving home at night,
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going by a restaurant
on the way.
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The software we have
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has managed to take about 3,000
pictures on that day
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and summarized them down
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into this collection
of about 30 pictures.
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Freeman: Cathal is creating
an auxiliary memory --
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something that can be searched
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when his biological memory
fails him,
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preserved in a medium far more
accurate than the human brain.
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When you're faced
with this kind of data
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about your life --
your life in the past --
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then you start to identify times you
make mistakes in your memory.
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It becomes very apparent
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when you remember an event
in the past
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and you go back to look at it --
the differences in the reality
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versus what
you actually see itself.
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And that's where a life log
can really help you
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to identify the truth about
what's happened in the past,
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not just your memory's version
of it,
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which we know, from research,
that we'll have inaccuracies --
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we'll have flaws in that memory.
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Freeman: Anyone who's spent time
on social-networking sites
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knows that a basic form
of lifelogging
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is already practiced
by millions of people,
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anxious to share
their every passing thought,
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no matter how trivial.
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It's estimated
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that humanity today
generates more data in two days
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than it produced in all
of history up to the year 2003.
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And this data stream is expected
to increase exponentially
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in the future.
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Extreme lifelogging will add
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an enormous amount
of new imagery and data
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to the vast amount that
already floods the Internet.
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Gurrin:
We will typically capture
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at least a million photographs
a year for an individual person.
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So that's
an incredibly huge data set
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to be handled
by a search engine.
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And that's one of the issues
about lifelogging
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that we are trying to solve
in this research --
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how to handle a million
photographs a year for people,
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how to handle many hundreds
of millions of sensor values,
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make sense of this,
organize this,
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and take this enormous quantity
of big, big data about people
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and make it useable
and easy for the people
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to access their content
from within that archive.
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Freeman:
Cathal and his students
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are creating backup drives
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for their entire life's
experience --
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black boxes of the mind.
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Someday, we might all have
these personal life recorders --
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initially,
to enhance our memories,
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but after death, our survivors
could take our black boxes
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and hand them over
for uploading.
494
00:28:17,030 --> 00:28:18,963
Gurrin:
Essentially, memory defines us.
495
00:28:18,965 --> 00:28:20,598
A person's personality
is based
496
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,967
on their memories
and their experiences over time.
497
00:28:22,969 --> 00:28:25,103
By gathering
all this type of data,
498
00:28:25,105 --> 00:28:27,939
we're able to hopefully,
in the future, re-create
499
00:28:27,941 --> 00:28:30,742
that person's personality
in the digital memory.
500
00:28:30,744 --> 00:28:32,677
We're able to re-create
how that person reacts
501
00:28:32,679 --> 00:28:34,412
to a certain stimulus
in the environment,
502
00:28:34,414 --> 00:28:36,714
how that person reacts to
interactions with other people.
503
00:28:36,716 --> 00:28:38,983
We'd be able to take
the digital memory data
504
00:28:38,985 --> 00:28:41,252
and by enhancing
our artificial-intelligence
505
00:28:41,254 --> 00:28:43,354
algorithms and search engines
right now,
506
00:28:43,356 --> 00:28:44,756
be able to re-create
507
00:28:44,758 --> 00:28:47,792
a fairly good representation
of that person's personality
508
00:28:47,794 --> 00:28:49,260
from the digital memory.
509
00:28:49,262 --> 00:28:53,631
Freeman: This would not create
a perfect mirror of the mind,
510
00:28:53,633 --> 00:28:57,902
but it would reflect the stuff
our minds are attracted to.
511
00:28:57,904 --> 00:29:01,706
A computer algorithm would sort
through your likes and dislikes
512
00:29:01,708 --> 00:29:06,544
and extrapolate a personality
based on your experiences.
513
00:29:07,947 --> 00:29:10,315
Cathal's route to resurrection
514
00:29:10,317 --> 00:29:13,284
might bring something similar
to you back to life.
515
00:29:13,286 --> 00:29:19,424
But is there a way to exactly
re-create your inner self?
516
00:29:19,426 --> 00:29:22,460
This man says yes.
517
00:29:23,395 --> 00:29:27,298
We just need the right tools
for the job.
518
00:29:31,258 --> 00:29:33,893
Your mind is the product
519
00:29:33,895 --> 00:29:38,965
of 100 trillion neural
connections in your brain.
520
00:29:38,967 --> 00:29:42,935
This dense pattern is you.
521
00:29:42,937 --> 00:29:47,406
And when the brain dies,
you die.
522
00:29:47,408 --> 00:29:50,643
What if we could separate
the contents of our minds
523
00:29:50,645 --> 00:29:53,045
from our brains?
524
00:29:53,047 --> 00:29:56,282
If we could pull the essence
of who you are
525
00:29:56,284 --> 00:29:59,318
out of the fragile biology
of your brain
526
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,988
and put it
into another container,
527
00:30:01,990 --> 00:30:05,358
you could live again.
528
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,193
[ Train whistle blows ]
529
00:30:09,096 --> 00:30:12,965
By day, Ken Hayworth
is a neuroscientist
530
00:30:12,967 --> 00:30:16,602
at a prestigious
Massachusetts University.
531
00:30:16,604 --> 00:30:20,639
In his off hours, he runs the
Brain Preservation Foundation,
532
00:30:20,641 --> 00:30:25,011
which looks for ways to
resurrect our minds after death.
533
00:30:25,013 --> 00:30:28,514
I want to see the future,
and death is preventing that.
534
00:30:28,516 --> 00:30:33,386
But if we can preserve and map
our brains, we can get there.
535
00:30:33,388 --> 00:30:35,187
[ Train whistle blows ]
536
00:30:40,327 --> 00:30:43,896
The wiring of your brain
is like this train track,
537
00:30:43,898 --> 00:30:47,099
only the total length of wires
in your brain
538
00:30:47,101 --> 00:30:49,802
is actually billions of times
longer
539
00:30:49,804 --> 00:30:52,405
than the length
of this toy track.
540
00:30:52,407 --> 00:30:55,341
And the number of switching
points in your brain
541
00:30:55,343 --> 00:30:58,310
numbers in the hundreds
of trillions.
542
00:31:00,547 --> 00:31:04,050
We call this set of wires
and switches in a human brain
543
00:31:04,052 --> 00:31:05,718
the connectome.
544
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,587
The connectome is
the seat of all of our memory,
545
00:31:08,589 --> 00:31:14,727
and it is the generator of our
thought and our consciousness.
546
00:31:14,729 --> 00:31:19,298
If we could copy this set
of trillions of connections,
547
00:31:19,300 --> 00:31:26,172
we could re-create you,
even after your body has died.
548
00:31:26,174 --> 00:31:28,974
Freeman:
The way to rescue
549
00:31:28,976 --> 00:31:33,879
all the information held
in the connectome, Ken says,
550
00:31:33,881 --> 00:31:37,583
is to treat the brain
like a computer.
551
00:31:37,585 --> 00:31:39,852
So, this is a dead computer.
552
00:31:39,854 --> 00:31:41,620
It's way out of date.
553
00:31:41,622 --> 00:31:43,756
It has a burned-out motherboard,
554
00:31:43,758 --> 00:31:46,959
and there's really
essentially nothing I can do
555
00:31:46,961 --> 00:31:48,961
to repair this computer.
556
00:31:48,963 --> 00:31:52,798
And I'm really sad about that,
because this particular computer
557
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,701
has all my wedding photographs,
my PhD thesis,
558
00:31:55,703 --> 00:31:57,636
and I'm going to just toss it
559
00:31:57,638 --> 00:32:00,139
into the trash
and lose it forever.
560
00:32:00,141 --> 00:32:02,241
But, of course, that's not true.
561
00:32:02,243 --> 00:32:04,043
Those pieces of information
562
00:32:04,045 --> 00:32:06,812
are stored digitally
on this hard drive,
563
00:32:06,814 --> 00:32:11,484
and I can copy that information
onto another hard drive.
564
00:32:11,486 --> 00:32:16,388
Now, what I'm saying
is that neuroscience has told us
565
00:32:16,390 --> 00:32:19,058
that we, in essence,
are digital information
566
00:32:19,060 --> 00:32:22,828
stored in the synaptic
connections within our brain.
567
00:32:22,830 --> 00:32:25,798
If we preserve that brain
at our death,
568
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:29,568
then that information
that makes us unique --
569
00:32:29,570 --> 00:32:32,505
all of those memories --
they're not lost,
570
00:32:32,507 --> 00:32:35,107
and they can be
potentially brought back
571
00:32:35,109 --> 00:32:38,611
just the same way digital
information can be brought back
572
00:32:38,613 --> 00:32:40,779
by putting it
in a new computer.
573
00:32:40,781 --> 00:32:45,718
Freeman: Software is physically
written onto a hard drive.
574
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,387
Make an exact copy of a drive,
575
00:32:48,389 --> 00:32:53,192
and you have an exact copy
of the information it contains.
576
00:32:53,194 --> 00:32:56,862
Ken believes all the information
in your brain
577
00:32:56,864 --> 00:32:58,831
can also be copied and stored.
578
00:32:58,833 --> 00:33:01,167
All you have to do to preserve
579
00:33:01,169 --> 00:33:03,502
the connectome's trillions
of neural connections
580
00:33:03,504 --> 00:33:05,471
is to copy
the brain's hardware...
581
00:33:07,641 --> 00:33:09,508
...one slice at a time.
582
00:33:09,510 --> 00:33:13,946
Ken's brain-scanning assembly
line would work like this.
583
00:33:13,948 --> 00:33:15,915
At the moment of death,
584
00:33:15,917 --> 00:33:20,252
the brain is extracted
and preserved in plastic.
585
00:33:20,254 --> 00:33:24,523
The brain is then chopped
by a heated diamond knife
586
00:33:24,525 --> 00:33:31,130
into 20-micron cubes 40,000
times thinner than a human hair.
587
00:33:31,132 --> 00:33:35,901
These tiny slices are sliced
again, 1,000 times thinner,
588
00:33:35,903 --> 00:33:39,505
then scanned by ion beams.
589
00:33:39,507 --> 00:33:42,841
The process is repeated
millions of times
590
00:33:42,843 --> 00:33:45,744
until the entire brain
is digitized.
591
00:33:45,746 --> 00:33:47,479
Hmm? Hmm?
592
00:33:47,481 --> 00:33:50,549
It is technology
that exists today.
593
00:33:50,551 --> 00:33:53,852
We mapped small bits
of neural tissue
594
00:33:53,854 --> 00:33:56,822
at this ultimate resolution
already.
595
00:33:56,824 --> 00:33:58,958
Freeman:
The resolution is so high
596
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:03,329
that we cannot only see the
connections between neurons --
597
00:34:03,331 --> 00:34:07,533
we can also determine
their strength and type.
598
00:34:07,535 --> 00:34:11,503
Once we have the ability
to map a human brain
599
00:34:11,505 --> 00:34:14,039
and once we have the knowledge
600
00:34:14,041 --> 00:34:17,209
of how that generates
a human mind,
601
00:34:17,211 --> 00:34:23,983
we will be able to simulate that
brain in a computer substrate
602
00:34:23,985 --> 00:34:28,721
and bring that individual
back to life
603
00:34:28,723 --> 00:34:31,824
inside of a computer simulation.
604
00:34:31,826 --> 00:34:34,760
Freeman:
Mapping the human mind today
605
00:34:34,762 --> 00:34:39,598
would require an enormously
expensive Apollo-sized project.
606
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:44,236
But as technology gets cheaper,
that could change.
607
00:34:44,238 --> 00:34:48,374
So, whereas it's tens
of billions of dollars today
608
00:34:48,376 --> 00:34:50,209
to map a whole human mind,
609
00:34:50,211 --> 00:34:54,713
it will be thousands of dollars
100 years from now.
610
00:34:54,715 --> 00:34:59,618
Anybody that wants to get
to that future technology
611
00:34:59,620 --> 00:35:03,489
just 100 years from now
can get their brain preserved.
612
00:35:03,491 --> 00:35:08,661
Freeman: Imagine the future in
which every hospital is equipped
613
00:35:08,663 --> 00:35:11,797
to preserve your brain
if you dip near death.
614
00:35:11,799 --> 00:35:16,068
Thousands of brains,
sliced and scanned,
615
00:35:16,070 --> 00:35:20,506
will be ready to form a new
population of the formerly dead.
616
00:35:20,508 --> 00:35:22,941
Hayworth:
That person's brain
617
00:35:22,943 --> 00:35:25,411
that's sitting there on
the shelf for the last 100 years
618
00:35:25,413 --> 00:35:29,214
can be taken off, sliced,
imaged,
619
00:35:29,216 --> 00:35:32,618
and downloaded
into a computer simulation.
620
00:35:32,620 --> 00:35:37,823
And that person wakes up
like they were in a long sleep.
621
00:35:39,592 --> 00:35:46,131
Freeman: And if we live on as digital
copies of ourselves, what then?
622
00:35:46,133 --> 00:35:49,601
What would life be like
as a computer program?
623
00:35:49,603 --> 00:35:52,237
How would we relate
to each other?
624
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:56,342
Could we bear to live
without physical sensation?
625
00:35:58,144 --> 00:35:59,645
To bring back a brain
626
00:35:59,647 --> 00:36:02,147
and just leave it
in some computer
627
00:36:02,149 --> 00:36:05,184
without legs, without arms,
without eyes --
628
00:36:05,186 --> 00:36:09,655
of course, that would be
an experience worse than death.
629
00:36:09,657 --> 00:36:13,459
Freeman: Resurrecting the mind
may not be enough.
630
00:36:13,461 --> 00:36:17,029
To truly live again, we will
want to see the world around us
631
00:36:17,031 --> 00:36:18,897
and touch the ones we love.
632
00:36:18,899 --> 00:36:22,601
The challenges of restoring
a mind to a biological body
633
00:36:22,603 --> 00:36:24,737
seem insurmountable.
634
00:36:24,739 --> 00:36:28,006
But there is another option.
635
00:36:28,008 --> 00:36:30,476
Perhaps we could build
new bodies
636
00:36:30,478 --> 00:36:33,379
to carry
our resurrected minds --
637
00:36:33,381 --> 00:36:37,683
robot bodies, like these.
638
00:36:41,932 --> 00:36:46,068
Someday, we may be able
to preserve our minds,
639
00:36:46,070 --> 00:36:48,971
but our resurrection
will be incomplete
640
00:36:48,973 --> 00:36:50,840
if we don't have bodies --
641
00:36:50,842 --> 00:36:53,542
not these fragile bags
of chemicals,
642
00:36:53,544 --> 00:36:56,979
but perfect replicas
of ourselves that never age
643
00:36:56,981 --> 00:36:59,682
and can be
constantly upgraded --
644
00:36:59,684 --> 00:37:04,653
robot vessels
to carry our digitized minds.
645
00:37:04,655 --> 00:37:06,655
Think of it.
646
00:37:17,834 --> 00:37:22,605
In Japan,
robots are a part of daily life.
647
00:37:22,607 --> 00:37:24,306
Most of them work in factories
648
00:37:24,308 --> 00:37:28,043
and don't look too different
from the machines they build.
649
00:37:28,045 --> 00:37:32,148
But Japan also leads the world
in building androids
650
00:37:32,150 --> 00:37:36,452
that straddle the line
between humans and machines.
651
00:37:38,588 --> 00:37:42,525
If Hiroshi Ishiguro has his way,
the world of the future
652
00:37:42,527 --> 00:37:45,694
will be filled
with replicants so realistic,
653
00:37:45,696 --> 00:37:49,932
you can't tell them apart
from flesh-and-blood people.
654
00:38:06,716 --> 00:38:12,755
Hiroshi's lab tests
how much or how little humanity
655
00:38:12,757 --> 00:38:17,726
androids need
to be accepted by humans.
656
00:38:17,728 --> 00:38:20,896
They have produced
a line of robots
657
00:38:20,898 --> 00:38:22,898
ranging from near human
658
00:38:22,900 --> 00:38:26,902
to these almost
impressionistic creatures.
659
00:38:41,852 --> 00:38:44,587
The Elfoid robots
have a bare minimum
660
00:38:44,589 --> 00:38:46,088
of human characteristics,
661
00:38:46,090 --> 00:38:49,492
yet people
are able to relate to them.
662
00:38:49,494 --> 00:38:53,996
In the future, this might be
the low-budget option
663
00:38:53,998 --> 00:38:55,898
for your robot body.
664
00:38:55,900 --> 00:38:59,368
It's simple,
but it does the job.
665
00:38:59,370 --> 00:39:01,270
[ Speaking Japanese ]
666
00:39:01,272 --> 00:39:04,406
Freeman: For now, the Elfoid
is remote-controlled,
667
00:39:04,408 --> 00:39:07,076
like all of Hiroshi's robots.
668
00:39:07,078 --> 00:39:10,980
Software reads the facial
expressions of the operator
669
00:39:10,982 --> 00:39:13,883
and transmits them
to tiny actuators
670
00:39:13,885 --> 00:39:16,986
under the android's
synthetic skin.
671
00:39:16,988 --> 00:39:21,190
These mimic
human facial muscles.
672
00:39:21,192 --> 00:39:23,192
[ Speaking Japanese ]
673
00:39:29,232 --> 00:39:33,469
At the other end of the ladder
are the Geminoids,
674
00:39:33,471 --> 00:39:36,672
meant to mirror humans
as closely as possible.
675
00:39:36,674 --> 00:39:40,976
The Geminoids
are replicas of real people.
676
00:39:40,978 --> 00:39:44,313
Imagine a body like this
677
00:39:44,315 --> 00:39:48,584
loaded with the contents
of your digitized mind,
678
00:39:48,586 --> 00:39:50,953
or perhaps
your disembodied consciousness
679
00:39:50,955 --> 00:39:53,556
would operate the android
from a mainframe,
680
00:39:53,558 --> 00:39:58,093
just as these robots
are controlled from a distance.
681
00:39:58,095 --> 00:40:01,797
Hiroshi is already working
on the technology
682
00:40:01,799 --> 00:40:07,069
to connect our minds
to the androids.
683
00:40:07,071 --> 00:40:08,504
Ishiguro:
If possible...
684
00:40:18,748 --> 00:40:23,052
Freeman: If Hiroshi does perfect
a brain/machine interface,
685
00:40:23,054 --> 00:40:26,589
he will probably first test it
on himself --
686
00:40:26,591 --> 00:40:31,393
or, more precisely,
his replicant.
687
00:40:31,395 --> 00:40:33,729
Yeah, yeah.
He's restarting -- restarting.
688
00:40:33,731 --> 00:40:34,930
Okay.
689
00:40:34,932 --> 00:40:36,832
Yeah, we have come --
we have come back now.
690
00:40:36,834 --> 00:40:38,634
[ Laughs ]
691
00:40:38,636 --> 00:40:39,668
Okay.
692
00:40:39,670 --> 00:40:41,637
Now it's okay.
Can you look at me?
693
00:40:41,639 --> 00:40:43,539
Mm-hmm.
All right.
694
00:40:43,541 --> 00:40:46,575
Hiroshi often sends his
doppelganger to other countries
695
00:40:46,577 --> 00:40:48,010
to represent him
696
00:40:48,012 --> 00:40:52,748
or to teach classes that he's
too busy to attend in the flesh.
697
00:40:52,750 --> 00:40:55,150
How do people respond
to this and me?
698
00:40:55,152 --> 00:40:57,019
Well --
well, maybe they were --
699
00:40:57,021 --> 00:40:59,922
in the first contact,
they were a little bit nervous,
700
00:40:59,924 --> 00:41:01,156
but, you know, once --
701
00:41:01,158 --> 00:41:03,492
as you know that,
once you start to talk,
702
00:41:03,494 --> 00:41:06,962
they can concentrate on the --
in a conversation.
703
00:41:08,932 --> 00:41:14,336
Hiroshi has essentially created
a robot version of himself,
704
00:41:14,338 --> 00:41:17,072
and the better
his hardware gets,
705
00:41:17,074 --> 00:41:20,476
the more his androids pass
for real people.
706
00:41:27,450 --> 00:41:30,686
The Geminoid "F"
is an android so lifelike,
707
00:41:30,688 --> 00:41:33,355
it has performed onstage
in plays,
708
00:41:33,357 --> 00:41:37,526
but its inventor
is never satisfied.
709
00:41:47,504 --> 00:41:50,839
Thank you for answering
my questions, Professor.
710
00:41:50,841 --> 00:41:52,374
You're welcome.
711
00:41:52,376 --> 00:41:55,744
Freeman: This could be the future face
of the living dead --
712
00:41:55,746 --> 00:41:59,682
not decaying corpses,
but smooth silicon flesh --
713
00:41:59,684 --> 00:42:05,854
robots carrying the minds
of our long-lost loved ones.
714
00:42:15,131 --> 00:42:17,866
[ Breathes deeply ]
715
00:42:17,868 --> 00:42:24,840
The day when we never have to
say goodbye may soon be at hand.
716
00:42:24,842 --> 00:42:28,944
But what would it be like to see
your dead grandmother again,
717
00:42:28,946 --> 00:42:32,347
living inside a synthetic body?
718
00:42:32,349 --> 00:42:36,585
Would she still be
the woman you knew?
719
00:42:36,587 --> 00:42:39,354
We won't know until it happens.
720
00:42:39,356 --> 00:42:41,857
The human race
may one day be filled
721
00:42:41,859 --> 00:42:45,094
with new and unfamiliar
ethnic groups.
722
00:42:45,096 --> 00:42:49,064
The people next door
might be the robotic undead,
723
00:42:49,066 --> 00:42:51,834
and the great divide in society
724
00:42:51,836 --> 00:42:56,105
would be between those
who have lived only once
725
00:42:56,107 --> 00:43:00,437
and those who are
on their second or fifth body.
726
00:43:00,438 --> 00:43:04,438
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