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LUCY CORMACK: We see a kilo of cocaine wholesale

between $180,000 to $300,000.

(ship horn blares)

MARK SCHLIEBS: The same quantity in the US

would go for $25,000.

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TOMMY CINDRIC: That the issue with Australia,

it's always the issue with Australia.

The price for a kilo of cocaine is astronomical.

CHRIS DAWSON: We command the highest prices in the world,

so therefore, they'll use whatever mode they can

to bring those drugs into Australia.

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DAVE CRAFT: He's a puppet master,

someone that thrived on power, on money, on influence.

SCHLIEBS: He was an invisible boss.

He was an email address, he was a pseudonym,

he was a phone number, he was a voice down the end of the phone.

No one knew exactly who he was.

CINDRIC: He epitomizes what everybody has in their mind

of a super villain.

DEREK MALTZ: He was a brilliant mind,

working with the worst of the worst around the world,

and it made me even hungrier to want him off the playing field.

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The boat is capsized off an island in Tonga.

CRAFT: The vessel, the JeReVe, was well battered,

a male had been located on board who was deceased.

CINDRIC: Tongan Navy along with the AFP

found 204 kilos of cocaine on the boat.

CRAFT: We were provided documentation

which confirmed Ivan Vaclavik was the skipper,

Milan Rindzak, a Slovakian citizen, was also on board.

The clearance paperwork, they declared

their ultimate destination as Sydney, Australia.

MALTZ: There was one body that was decomposed

on the boat that we found,

and the other body, I don't know where he went.

There's all types of stories about what happened.

CRAFT: How did they end up in this predicament?

CINDRIC: Whatever happened to Captain Ivan and his first mate?

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SCHLIEBS: Le Roux was the biggest Australian criminal

that we've never heard of.

MALTZ: Paul Le Roux was incredibly anxious

to have a massive cocaine operation going on in Australia.

He thought he was untouchable!

INTERVIEWER: Can you spell out for us

why he wanted to take cocaine to Australia?

CINDRIC: Huge profit margin.

DYER: Narcos would perceive the Australian market

as an extremely lucrative place to send their cocaine.

NEIL GAUGHAN: If you're looking at how much it costs in the US,

$87 a gram to buy cocaine

compared to $300 a gram here in Australia,

it does go to show you

that there's a significant profit margin differential.

CORMACK: Because it is so hard to get it in,

and we are so far away, that drives the price up,

and the demand is there and people will pay it.

MALTZ: Australia is a gold mine for cocaine traffickers.

DAWSON: Given the dominant prices that we command,

the invisibles behind all this, they'll use any means

if they think they're gonna get it through.

MALTZ: If you're a business guy

and you have a kilogram of cocaine

to sell in America for 25 grand,

or sell in Australia for 300 grand,

what are you going to do?

CRAFT: Le Roux is no doubt thinking

when he looks at Australia that he's gonna make a lot of money.

He's the eternal businessman

if he can open up that pipeline or that drug stream to Australia

and get that regular flow,

ultimately he's gonna be the winner.

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CINDRIC: Paul Le Roux initially was born in Rhodesia,

during the white flight from Rhodesia

he ended up in South Africa during the Mugabe takeover.

SCHLIEBS: By all accounts, he was the kind of kid

that would close his door at the end of the school day

and sit at the computer.

He wasn't out with his friends every afternoon.

MALTZ: Very, very bright.

I believe he was a high school dropout,

but he was fascinated with technology.

SCHLIEBS: He showed a great interest in computer programming

and that more or less dictated the rest of his life.

CINDRIC: He was self‐taught.

That's the uniqueness of Paul and the brilliance of Paul.

He wasn't taught a method, he just did it.

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SCHLIEBS: He's been waiting much of his teenage life

to escape that middle class upbringing in South Africa.

All of a sudden, he's got the opportunity and he takes it,

he moves to London.

He's talented with computers

and he finds work as a software programmer.

And he comes across this Australian girl

who's on holidays in London.

They form a connection which turns romantic.

Eventually, he follows her back to Australia.

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He moves to Sydney,

he finds a way to continue his software programming,

and he forms an Australian company.

CINDRIC: And he was married to an Australian woman

and gained status in Australia based upon that marriage.

SCHLIEBS: Where they're living, it's not glamorous.

It's a two‐story, yellow brick unit

in Belmore in Sydney's west.

By day, he's working as an on‐contract software programmer.

But at nighttime he's working on a secret project

which is a military‐grade encryption program.

This is software that locks up every file on a computer

and stops any government agency from accessing it.

CINDRIC: They called it Encryption for The Masses

is what it was, E4M.

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I guess you would call Paul

kind of a privacy anarchist‐type,

he didn't believe the government had the right

to look at people's private emails, et cetera.

Everybody likes to categorize Paul,

they call him the fat geek and all this kind of stuff.

Paul is far from a fat geek.

Paul is a brilliant individual

who has a personality like a Fortune 500 CEO.

SCHLIEBS: But at that point in his life,

Le Roux hates Australia, he hates Australians.

He hates the welfare system,

he hates the attitude of Australians,

he hates the way Australians see themselves in the world.

He criticizes it any chance he gets online.

MAN: Australia could disappear into the Pacific

and the only difference it would make

is the Americans would have one less (bleep) country to protect.

SCHLIEBS: Going on the discussion board forums

enraging every Australian on the forums,

he creates a campaign of hate against him.

CINDRIC: Australia had too much law and structure for Paul.

Paul needed a bit of lawlessness to thrive.

CRAFT: He was scathing of Australia's laws,

and I think that caused him to move offshore.

CINDRIC: He ultimately divorced that woman

and then found his way to the Philippines.

MALTZ: Any successful transnational organized crime boss

has corruption involvement

at the highest levels of the government, period.

So, Paul Le Roux, he knew he can get away with a lot

in the Philippines.

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SCHLIEBS: He discovered he was adopted.

For him, that was heartbreaking.

He had absolutely no idea, and he took it really badly.

His view of the world and his life changed.

At that point Le Roux starts talking about a business venture

that he's setting up in the US.

CINDRIC: The US is a pill market, okay,

you can see it today even with the opioid crisis.

US people want, you know, take a pill, make me skinny,

take a pill, get my (bleep) hard,

take a pill, take a pill.

Paul foresaw all that.

He was ahead of his time and he had thought this out very well.

MALTZ: So he was brilliant

in far as how he set up his company called RX Limited.

This illegal pharmaceutical business

to sell pills on the Internet

that were being distributed all over America

and making hundreds of millions of dollars.

CINDRIC: Paul Le Roux was trafficking in tramadol,

Viagra, oxycodone, all sorts of pharmaceutical substances

where they had doctors on the payroll,

and the doctors would take incoming calls and go,

"Okay, I'll give you 20 pills of Viagra,"

without ever seeing the individual.

MALTZ: He knew that US law enforcement

would not be that concerned with Schedule 4 drugs

and non‐controlled substances.

Even though people were dying,

and even though people were getting addicted,

he knew it wasn't going to create a lot of attention.

CINDRIC: Paul Le Roux was making approximately $9 million a month

on online pharmacy operations alone.

CINDRIC: Profit.

SCHLIEBS: Some estimates put the income of RX Limited

at about $200 million a year,

which is phenomenal.

Now he's not keeping that money, he's investing it elsewhere.

He's looking at where he can make a profit.

CINDRIC: He had conquered the RX Limited thing in his mind.

He had conquered pharmaceuticals.

Okay, what's next?

The time now was for Paul to take it to the next level.

Basically he was like a one‐man crime enterprise

in the Philippines,

and he had his tentacles everywhere in the world.

SCHLIEBS: He starts looking at forestry concessions,

at gold mining and diamonds.

He starts looking at a whole range of commodities

where there's very little laws.

CINDRIC: He was involved in getting meth out of North Korea,

in the illegal transport of weapons,

purchasing weapons out of India.

He was in business with Iran

to create a missile guidance system,

but he also was looking to obtain weapons

directly from Iran.

There was really nothing that Paul did not have his hands in.

SCHLIEBS: Le Roux was pretty much one guy sitting in a room

with a laptop controlling hundreds of other people.

Few people knew the extent of his criminal empire.

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CINDRIC: He also had a team of US mercenaries

who worked for him committing violence

in order to secure and protect his operations.

The leader of the mercenary team was Joseph "Rambo" Hunter.

Joseph Hunter was a former US military, US army.

MALTZ: Obviously he had years of experience in the military,

and then when he left the military,

wanted to make some big money,

and he chose the mercenary route

to work for this madman Paul Le Roux.

CINDRIC: Joseph Hunter had cultivated

a group of mercenaries to work for him,

Western‐trained soldiers,

which made them all the more dangerous, too,

because it wasn't just some, you know, Filipino street thug,

it wasn't some low‐level guy;

they had military guys planning these operations

to kill and hurt people.

SCHLIEBS: Le Roux was involved in a boatload of guns,

Indonesian‐made assault rifles

that were captured by the Philippines authorities,

and the boat captain who, who sailed that ship turns up dead.

Two other people end up dead.

CINDRIC: Everybody associated with the seizure of those arms

all got killed.

Very cold blooded.

He could kill his best friend tomorrow

if he felt he was cheated and not have any, any real remorse.

That's if Paul Le Roux really ever had a best friend,

'cause I don't believe he did.

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MALTZ: He was playing a little bit of a mind game,

you know, he was trying to see how much he can do,

how much he can get away with.

So we wanted to put the best and brightest

that the DEA had to get this guy.

CINDRIC: My name's Tommy Cindric.

When I first got to the Special Operations Division,

I'd came there after being a police officer and DEA agent

domestically for 18, 20 years.

So for me, I was taking a fresh look at everything.

MALTZ: The Special Operations Division's primary focus

is to go after the biggest and baddest threats

that are out there causing havoc and chaos to communities

across the world and put 'em in jail

and have them face the rule of law and justice in America.

CINDRIC: Myself and Eric Stouch worked together as partners,

and we were operating in Africa,

that was kinda of my beat, was Africa.

So, we met with this former military attaché.

He had expertise on things in Somalia,

because he was very much involved

in the whole pirating at the time

that was going on off the coast of East Africa.

He emailed me a UN report

that showed that Paul Le Roux

was running a 220‐man militia in Somalia,

and he shifted to wanting to do coca cultivation,

opium cultivation

and methamphetamine production in Somalia.

He brought in horticulturalists,

and he deemed it was possible to do it,

but he also deemed it wasn't cost effective to do it.

What he then did do, though, is he decided that he wanted

to deal with trying to fight against al‐Shabaab

and take over the weapons trade.

I was like, "Look, if this guy did half of this stuff,

we got a real target."

MALTZ: I'm not afraid to say, hey, this was, like, a first.

I never came across the guy that actually had

so much connectivity to bad guys around the world.

CINDRIC: So we spoke to our counterpart in South Africa,

and he had run that, run Le Roux's name

by the intelligence community, and they had provided us a tip.

(phone rings)

A particular individual had provided them

extensive information regarding Paul Le Roux,

and he had left his number and email address.

I was like, "What the (bleep)?"

And I just started dialing the number.

(phone ringing)

This individual picked up the phone, Jack,

I said, "Hi, my name's Tommy Cindric,

I'm from the United States government.

You have provided information regarding Paul Le Roux.

Are you interested in talking to us?"

He says, "Yes."

"Are you willing to meet with us?"

He said, "Yes."

And it ultimately broke open the case.

CINDRIC: Jack was an individual

who had worked in the Le Roux organization.

He was intimately involved in certain businesses

on his behalf, legal businesses initially.

And then Jack as he started seeing the legal businesses

go in the illegal direction,

got very nervous and wanted to turn away.

He basically laid out

that Le Roux was a worldwide criminal,

operating at a level

that very few people truly knew or truly understood.

Jack's life was under threat at one time from Paul.

He had maintained this good relationship with Paul,

but he worried that at some time that could change.

So he believed that the only way to protect himself

was to help put Paul Le Roux in jail.

Myself and Eric Stouch became more and more convinced

that Jack was the right person

to infiltrate the Le Roux organization.

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SCHLIEBS: The heat's coming on Le Roux in the Philippines.

He's getting reports from people he's corrupted

within the Philippine law enforcement agencies

that the DEA are looking at him,

that the Australian Federal Police

are showing an interest in him.

And Le Roux decides to leave,

and he sets himself up in Brazil.

CINDRIC: Paul established himself in places

that he knew where he would have a strong chance

of not being extradited.

And what he did is he actually impregnated a woman in Brazil,

had a child, so that he could not be extradited

should he be arrested by US authorities in Brazil.

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SCHLIEBS: Le Roux looks like a super villain.

He's running meth, he's running guns,

he has a private militia,

he has heavily armed and well‐trained

former army commandos at his disposal,

but one of the few illegal activities

that he hasn't yet been involved in is cocaine.

CINDRIC: Paul wanted to get into cocaine

in order to be the narco like Pablo Escobar.

So that is what Paul attempted to do.

What we learned from the wire taps of Paul

was the identification of the boat the MV JeReVe.

These guys would load the cocaine in Peru

and then take this boat all the way across the Pacific.

SCHLIEBS: The DEA, they believe it's heading to Australia,

they tip off Australian law enforcement agencies.

CRAFT: My name's Dave Craft,

I'm a federal agent with the Australian Federal Police.

In August 2012, the DEA provided information to the AFP,

that a vessel of interest, the JeReVe,

was intending to make a shipment of cocaine to Australia.

It was part of a wider investigation into Paul Le Roux

and his wider syndicate and activities.

Le Roux was looking to establish a cocaine route

to Australia from Ecuador.

This vessel, the JeReVe, was the first vessel

that was going to be utilized under that syndicate.

He was looking to provide a vessel every six weeks.

Le Roux is a holder of an Australian passport

and lived in Australia for an amount of time in the late '90s.

He knew the mark‐up in price that he could make

for getting cocaine to Australia.

Once he came up with an idea or a venture,

he would go into it wholeheartedly.

He was someone that wanted things done quickly

and he wanted it done succinctly.

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The JeReVe, it was conveyed down to Panama.

The skipper, who was Ivan Vaclavik,

who would be tasked with moving the vessel

through the Panama Canal down to Ecuador.

The Ecuadorian Navy boarded the vessel

and did their compliance work.

We were provided with photos, documentation,

everything from on board the vessel.

Part of that were the passports of the two occupants.

There was a level of confidence by both Vaclavik and Rindzak

before they left the port.

They posed with customs agents,

they were extremely relaxed in their dealings with them.

That indicated to us that there were no drugs on board

at the time that they left port.

CINDRIC: The Ecuadorian Navy,

they placed a tracker on the boat.

CRAFT: The JeReVe departed Ecuador on the 20th of August.

Through their clearance paperwork,

they declared their ultimate destination

or their final destination, as Sydney, Australia.

They went west for a short period of time

before heading south.

We believe the vessel stopped off the coast of Peru

where it met up with another vessel

where the cocaine was loaded on board.

There was a tracking device on board

and we were getting live locational feeds off that,

off that device on a regular basis.

We just had no Australian‐based intelligence

as to where the drugs were going to go,

so we looked for opportunities

to disrupt this operation offshore.

The best case scenario is that we locate the vessel

at a stop point along the way, interdict the vessel,

arrest those on board and seize the cocaine.

Worst‐case scenario is that we don't locate the vessel,

that we miss the vessel,

that it meets a daughter vessel off the coast of Australia,

exchanges those drugs to another unknown vessel, and we miss it.

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SCHLIEBS: In South America he's an outsider,

he's someone who's not a known quantity,

and it's very hard for him to break through

and to get on the inside of the cocaine trade.

CINDRIC: Paul was looking to obtain cocaine,

and we came up with the plan to introduce a Colombian

and a cocaine deal.

The Colombian boss was a DEA source.

He fit a look that Paul would be intrigued by

of a Colombian boss.

He was a tall, good‐looking, salt and pepper hair,

mid‐40 Colombian.

Paul 100% revered the Colombian drug dealers.

He liked the idea of the top boss, the Pablo Escobar,

the guy sitting on top of the throne,

and so we wanted to give him that guy.

He felt that by having this Colombian connection,

he could obtain cocaine from the Colombians

and in exchange he would provide meth.

What they agreed to was a straight swap:

100 kilos of meth for 100 kilos of cocaine.

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Jack explained to Paul that Colombians,

they need a boss‐to‐boss meeting

before business is consummated, okay.

Paul got that, he understood that.

Paul agreed to that meeting.

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MALTZ: We picked Liberia

because we had previous successes

working with the Liberian officials.

The president of Liberia was very, very pro‐DEA

and was very interested in working a joint operation

with us on this case.

This one I wanted to go on, I wanted to see firsthand,

you know, what would happen on the ground in Liberia

and how this whole thing played out.

So we planned where we got a chartered flight,

flew down into Liberia, landed late in the night,

and set up the operation once on the ground in Liberia

with the other DEA agents.

CINDRIC: So myself and Eric Stouch get on the ground,

we get everything lined up with the Liberians.

You can indict anybody sometimes, right,

but can you grab 'em?

And that's where this kinda ratcheted up the intensity.

This was the coup de grâce for us.

CINDRIC: Paul doesn't show up when he's supposed to.

It was a very tense time.

If he doesn't get on that plane, we have him indicted,

but all that work's for nothing at this point.

So, ultimately, we find out after being on the ground

for about two and a half, three weeks, Paul's coming.

I saw him when he got to the hotel parking lot

and watched him head in.

It was the first time we had laid eyes on him firsthand.

He looked like a big rugby player.

He was definitely a guy who was not impressed by clothes,

impressed by jewelry.

He was in a pair of shorts, polo shirt and a pair of flip‐flops.

Jack takes him in and gets him settled for the evening.

The plan is for the next day,

for Paul to have a meeting with the Colombian boss.

When he comes back to the hotel room, our plan is to arrest him.

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CINDRIC: During that meeting with the Colombian boss,

Paul basically gave his résumé,

talked about having killed opposition,

was very forthright and open about everything.

They conclude the meeting,

Jack takes Paul back to his hotel room,

and then with the Liberians

we decide we're gonna go affect the arrest.

MALTZ: What they did was they knocked on the door

to try to get him to come to the door,

and they had to identify themselves as room service.

PAUL: Hello?

CINDRIC: As we make entry, Paul immediately goes into defensive,

you can tell it completely caught him off guard.

PAUL: No, no, no, no, no, no!

CINDRIC: "No, no, no, no, no,

you're not going to put me under arrest, no, no, no, no, no."

OFFICER: Put your hands behind your back.

PAUL: No. OFFICER: You're under arrest.

PAUL: You're not putting me under arrest.

OFFICER: Stop resisting! (Paul screams)

CINDRIC: I think he's trying to figure out how two dumb cops

actually were able to catch somebody as smart as him.

PAUL: Ahhh! Ahhh!

CINDRIC: Paul's screaming like a madman.

No "(bleep) you's", no "go to hells,"

just screaming.

Finally, the Liberian goes,

"Sir, put your hands behind your back,

you are under arrest or I will shoot you."

OFFICER: Or I'll shoot you.

CINDRIC: We're all like, "Oh, no!"

Because in Africa arrests go from zero to 60,

there's no escalation of force in Africa.

PAUL: Okay, okay, okay, okay.

Okay, okay.

CINDRIC: So finally, everything calms down,

we get him handcuffed, we secure the evidence,

he starts immediately trying to bribe the police officers.

He's going, "My African brother, my African brother,

how can we work this out?"

And he wouldn't even look at me.

PAUL: This is a mess, we're like kin.

We're like kin forever.

CINDRIC: He wouldn't look at any of the other DEA agents.

He would only focus on them,

and he was trying to get them to let him go.

MALTZ: Paul Le Roux learned at some point

he was going back to America to face justice.

He wasn't happy about that.

CINDRIC: Paul laughs and says, "I'm gonna apologize in advance,

I'm not getting on that plane."

"What?"

He goes, "I'm not getting on that plane."

MALTZ: I heard him yelling, he didn't want to go back,

he felt like it was a kidnapping.

PAUL: Ah! Ah!

CINDRIC: It takes not only all the agents,

but about six Liberians

to carry him down three flights of stairs.

We get him pressed up into the van,

one Liberian goes, "Shut the door! Shut the door!"

And he shoves him in, I'm telling you,

it's like 10 pounds of (bleep) in a five‐pound bag.

Paul is like twisted and turned,

pressed against the door, can't sit down,

and we're just like, "We're going to the airport like this."

PAUL: Ah! Ah!

CINDRIC: Paul breaks into hysterics,

and he goes, "I did apologize in advance,

I told you I wasn't getting on the plane."

MALTZ: As the head of this operation,

I was concerned about one thing only.

We were going back on this jet, and this guy, 300 pounds,

is gonna break bad and charge to the cockpit,

that had no cockpit door.

So I was afraid, like,

this guy's gonna try to take over the plane.

CINDRIC: He was told to behave himself on the plane,

or that he would probably be thrown off the plane, okay,

at 35,000 feet.

I'm being facetious,

but, you know, we were tired of the antics at that point.

Everybody's just happy to get on the plane.

He decides to be agreeable then.

We sit him in a chair on the plane,

and he becomes the chairman of the board.

The time now was for Paul to negotiate

the best deal possible.

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CRAFT: Based off the tracking of the vessel,

the path it was taking, the weather conditions,

we believed it was going to make a stop

in the northern area of the Cook Islands.

We identified a possible area that we thought it might go,

which was a place called Penrhyn Island,

which was a small atoll.

One of our concerns when we looked at that area

was that it had an airstrip.

You look at the options, is this a case of the vessel

simply arriving at a location unloading to another vessel,

or potentially to an aircraft?

So myself and a member of the Australian Border Force

traveled to the Cook Islands

to coordinate a possible interdiction.

Um, unfortunately the vessel just didn't arrive.

We're no longer getting locational data

as to where the vessel may be.

CINDRIC: Captain Ivan found the tracker,

and he tossed the tracker off the boat.

CRAFT: Did the vessel meet with another vessel

that we weren't aware of?

Did it go to another location that we didn't suspect?

There was a multitude of things

running through our minds at that time.

We were baffled as to what had happened.

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MALTZ: He decided to come fully aboard, as we call,

joining Team America, right,

and he wanted to cooperate with the government.

So one of the questions on my mind,

"Hey, Paul, what the hell happened with that vessel?"

CINDRIC: After the arrest of Paul,

he made a call in an effort to locate where the boat was.

Couldn't get hold of Ivan,

couldn't get hold of anybody on the boat.

So he called Ivan's wife.

She said that they were got by the fish men.

We were never able to determine who the fish men was.

The working hypothesis on this

is that maybe they got interdicted by pirates.

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CRAFT: We got a message that the Tongan Navy

had located the vessel washed ashore at an atoll in Tonga.

The male had been located on board who was deceased.

And that person on board was Milan Rindzak.

A load of 204 kilos of cocaine was located

secreted underneath the bunk

in the forward cabin in a purpose‐built hide.

We were wondering what happened to Vaclavik,

you know, how did they end up in this predicament?

CINDRIC: But the odd thing was,

if they were interdicted by pirates,

they would have searched that boat

and found those kilos and taken 'em.

So we really don't know the mystery behind the MV JeReVe,

and who actually, who the fish men were,

and whatever happened to Captain Ivan

and the, and his first mate.

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CINDRIC: Le Roux told myself that he believed

that if anybody was gonna survive

it was gonna be Captain Ivan, that he was a survivor.

And after the seizure of the MV JeReVe,

we saw on TV that some guy showed up

saying that he had been thrown overboard

out in the Pacific and survived.

Eric Stouch and I are at breakfast discussing this,

and we're laughing, but we're like, is this possible?

We pull it up on the Internet and Paul looks at the picture,

and he goes, "Ah, it's not Captain Ivan."

To this day we really don't know what happened.

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CRAFT: If you look at some of the images

from when they first left,

they were very buoyant in their photographs.

And then towards the end

they were, you know, almost weather‐beaten and downcast.

We know that a quantity of cocaine was on board the vessel.

I think if you look at a journey of this length,

obviously boredom sets in.

My belief is that simply that they,

they took part in some of the drugs that were on board.

Obviously the effects of cocaine,

especially of high purity,

have the potential to, not only cause cardiac arrest,

but possibly hallucinations.

That may account for some of the disjointed

and bizarre conversations

that Vaclavik may have had with his wife,

that he'd been taken by the fish men.

I believe that they probably partook in some of the cocaine.

As a result they've both died

when the vessel is ultimately come to rest

on the reef and on its side.

Rindzak, that fact that his body was located in the wheel well,

this caused his body to stay on board,

that fact that he was in the steering well of the vessel.

I believe that Vaclavik's body has become dislodged

and been lost at sea.

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CINDRIC: As a result of Paul's working

with myself and Eric Stouch,

we created a scenario to arrest Joseph Hunter

and the mercenary team.

We decided to throw out an opportunity for them

to kill a mythical DEA agent and mythical DEA source.

And we actually used, which is kind of amusing,

the backdrop of the JeReVe

as one of the reasons for them being killed.

Hunter believed that there's no way people died

and just left 204 kilos.

It had to be a law enforcement operation,

so we let them believe that.

So we used that scenario to create these two guys

that needed to be killed

on behalf of the Colombians and Paul.

MALTZ: We set up this complex multi‐country operation

in Thailand, Estonia and Liberia.

CINDRIC: So all in all, we had 10 people arrested,

three continents, nine hours.

I still am amazed that we were able

to pull off that coordination.

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Paul Le Roux is a Rubik's Cube.

He's complicated, he's multifaceted.

He could be gregarious and affable on one hand,

and then the next day that could be a total spin,

and he could be

the most dangerous man you'd ever meet.

He is the pinnacle of the cases I've done in my career.

I don't think I would ever get the opportunity

to arrest another Paul Le Roux or anybody of his significance.

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CRAFT: Paul Le Roux wanted to be one of those drug lords,

he wanted to be one of those kingpins,

wanted to be someone of influence,

whether that be in Africa, or whether that be in Asia,

or whether that be in Australia,

I think it was just an ultimate goal

he wanted to be one of those big players.

MALTZ: Paul Le Roux was like

the typical James Bond villain, right?

Anytime he could beat the government,

anytime he can make more money, it excited him.

The guy was very, you know, global in nature.

But he also sat behind his computer

with a sophisticated technology and did all his business.

Law enforcement must start embracing

the Paul Le Roux types,

because there's more and more of them out there

with the same motives,

the same methods of beating the system.

PAUL: Everything is sweet, everything is sweet.

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