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BONNIE: Cocaine is being
produced at greater
quantities than ever.
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JEREMY: Invisibles are the
future of the cocaine trade.
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They don't want to
gold plated Uzi.
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They don't want to
touch a kilo of cocaine.
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They've realized their best
protection, is just not being
on anyone's radar at all.
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PETER: Don Berna is
without a doubt the world's
most feared, dangerous,
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and influential narco
trafficker that you've
never heard of.
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DEREK: Don Bernardo.
Den Berna.
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Diego Murillio. All
the same character.
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PETER: He operated
in the shadows.
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DEREK: Tremendous
power, tremendous influence,
tremendous amount of violence.
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PETER: He knew where all
the bodies were buried, but
he didn't talk about it.
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DEREK: He's like the
ultimate crime boss.
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PETER: It was a very
very tense period.
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We were completely
jacked up on adrenalin.
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From flash to bang, it
was a question of hours.
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It was one of those once
in a lifetime experiences.
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Flashes of what happened
still haunt us all.
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JAY: Failure was not
an option.
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DEREK: It was a fascinating
story because, it was a two
kilo deal in New York City
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that led to the identification
of this massive Colombian
organization.
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In the DEA, we don't go after
users of drugs, we don't go
after distributors of drugs,
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we go after the network.
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And John Barry had
that mentality.
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JOHN: I was a New York
City detective assigned
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to the Manhattan North
Narcotics Major Case Unit.
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Back in the day in this
area, a lot of cocaine.
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In the early 2000s,
Washington Heights was
a very busy drug area.
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The further North you
went, the more stash houses
these guys would use.
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They'd try to get to a
more quieter area to put
their stash houses
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so they don't get robbed.
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My specialty in the early
2000s was wire taps and
confidential informants.
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We had information that this
guy was a major trafficker.
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He had connections
outside the New York area.
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JOHN: Yeah, we could call
him Eduardo is fine. Yeah.
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Got a court authorized
wiretap on his phone.
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We then began
listening to his phone.
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We learned that Eduardo
had a shipment of cocaine
that had just arrived.
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He was sitting on it
in an apartment in
Washington Heights.
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There was nothing that stood
out about the conversation,
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just other than him detailing
that the buyer was to come
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to the second floor
of the building.
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We set up surveillance at
that location and we waited
for the customer to come
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and pick up those two kilos.
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So the buyer was parked
right over here where
this black car is.
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Parked his car,
he exited his car.
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He walked over here up
the sidewalk and into
the building.
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He was there a short time
and then he exited the
building carrying a bag.
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Came back the same direction,
back into his car,
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which I was across the
street observing all
this stuff.
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I was calling it out to
the field team what I
was seeing.
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(sirens) (radio chatter)
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We orchestrated a car
stop of that vehicle
where we recovered
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two kilos of cocaine and
arrested the driver.
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This type of operation was
an everyday operation
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that we did as part of
a major case team.
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So initially we believed
it was just any other
arrest for the day.
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DEREK: John Barry, he
understood that street
deals if focused
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and investigated properly
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can lead to the highest
level of the organization.
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JOHN: Eduardo was
a tough cookie.
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He was difficult.
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It took some time to
get him to come around
and tell us everything.
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We finally built a
rapport with him
where he trusted us
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and he gave us all that
information, and basically
spilled his guts.
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So Eduardo's mother
was Dominican, his
father was German.
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Late 60s, early 70s he
came to the US and he
joined the army.
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He was in Vietnam
in the US Military.
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DEREK: He was a pilot, and
this particular guy wound
up flying loads
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for the big Colombian
kingpins Pablo Escobar
and others.
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JOHN: We were interested in
who was the big people in
Colombia that were bringing
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the drugs into the US.
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He mentioned a person
named Don Berna.
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I had no idea who Don
Berna was, I had never
heard of him before.
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But he told me that he
was a very significant
trafficker in Colombia,
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and was part of the reason
that Pablo Escobar was killed.
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Eduardo's stories seemed
a little farfetched.
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From a guy that I arrested
on a two kilo deal
in Washington Heights,
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but the more I talked
to him we figured out
that his story was true.
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I immediately went back
to the DEA office and
started to do research,
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because he didn't know
his real name, but I
quickly learned
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that Diego Fernando Murillo
Bejarano, was Don Berna.
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JEREMY: Of course, most
people had never heard
of Don Berna
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JEREMY: because for
many years Don Berna
was an invisible.
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DEREK: He was your
traditional transnational
organized crime boss.
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Tremendous power,
tremendous influence, very
very difficult to get near,
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very difficult to infiltrate.
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JOHN: He had the Colombian
Government protecting him.
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The United States, no
matter how much we asked,
we couldn't get anywhere.
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He was completely
untouchable.
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DEREK: John Barry
was like a pit bull.
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He told me early on that
he was going to get an
indictment on Don Berna
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and he always delivered.
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He was one of the best
investigators that
I've ever worked with.
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JOHN: I was in shock that I
took a guy from the streets
of Washington Heights
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who gave me information
on a kingpin like
Don Berna in Colombia.
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He was a huge fish.
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One of the worst of the
worst, that's ever been
on DEAs radar.
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Eduardo turned me on
to Don Berna, and once I
latch on I don't let go.
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PETER: Medellin is
deceptively beautiful.
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It really is the land
of eternal spring.
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Tragically, bubbling under
that relatively serene surface
is an incredibly violent,
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terrorist and narco
trafficking movement.
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JEREMY: Don Berna, he
wasn't from Medellin.
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He was from Tulua, on the
other side of the country
by the Pacific Coast.
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But he comes here and
started working the lowest
rung in the drug business,
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for an important element
in the Medellin Cartel
known as the Galeano Clan,
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led by Fernanda Galeano.
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Don Berna attracted the
attention of his boss,
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when a guerilla group
tried to extort from him,
and there was a fight.
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Berna in a shootout
took up to 17 bullets
and lost his leg.
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JOHN: He also lost partial
movement in his face,
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and the reason that you
always see him in all
his pictures
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with that towel on
his shoulder is
because he drools,
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so he has to constantly
wipe his mouth.
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There's a famous story that
even after him being shot, he
got up with guns aâblazing,
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and killed the
guys that shot him.
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It was one of the incidents
that made him who he is,
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and how he rose to power
and why people feared him.
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JEREMY: His reward was to
be made head of security
for the Galeano Clan.
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suddenly he became a
significant player in
the Medellin Cartel.
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JEREMY: Pablo Escobar
believed that certain
drug traffickers
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in the Medellin Cartel were
not paying him his dues.
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Don Berna's boss,
Fernando Galeano,
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was summoned to the prison
and killed in the prison,
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and this detonated a
civil war within the
Medellin Cartel.
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And Don Berna was the key
element in that civil war.
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By this point everybody
wanted Escobar dead
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and no one really cared
how that was achieved.
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And so the Pepes were formed.
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People persecuted by Pablo
Escobar, and this became a
vigilante group dedicated
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to bringing down Escobar.
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And as soon as he
left The Cathedral,
he fled the prison,
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they were all over him.
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Don Berna became the
heart, the key element
in the Pepes,
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that then took on
Pablo Escobar.
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PETER: Pablo Escobar targeted
well known politicians,
blew up police stations,
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blew up apartments, blew
up social clubs frequented
by Colombia's elite.
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JEREMY: Don Berna
turned Pablo Escobar's
tactics against him.
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The Pepes began to hit
his support structure,
they hit his lawyers,
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they hit his accountants,
they hit his friends, and
on the day he was killed,
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he had just one
bodyguard with him.
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There are many
different theories,
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as to how Pablo Escobar
was killed and by who.
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Don Berna's version is the
Pepes were there first.
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And it was his brother
alias Semilla,
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who actually shot Escobar
as he ran across the roof.
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Don Berna was the guy that
sought to collect up all
the different elements
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of the Medellin Cartel,
and keep them together.
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He was able to create an
extraordinarily sophisticated
criminal syndicate,
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and an innovative one.
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He learnt from
Escobar's mistakes.
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The first was 'Don't
be visible.' Live in
the shadows.
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The second, 'Do not take
on the state.' Don't
attract attention.
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PETER: Don Berna realized
that he's not a particularly
charismatic person,
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but he could use that
lack of charisma to
remain anonymous.
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And he used bribes much more
often than he used bullets.
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And he attempted to use
violence in a much more
selective, surgical way,
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then Pablo Escobar did.
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JEREMY: He had powerful
friends in the police and
in the political world,
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who were prepared to
support him against
other criminal elements.
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So this helps him
to cement his power.
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JAY: The amount of drugs
that he was responsible
for moving,
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we are speaking of
tens of thousands of
kilograms a month.
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Not a year, a month.
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The numbers that he
ultimately had oversight
of was staggering.
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JOHN: In 2002, DEA put
him on the CPOT list,
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which identified him as one
of the largest traffickers
in the world,
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and they also put
him on the OFAC list.
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Which means he couldn't
conduct any financial
transactions through
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the world, anything
in his name.
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JAY: So he's at the top
of that target list.
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He's a designated
foreign terrorist.
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A major, significant
narcotics trafficker,
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and then he's designated
by Treasury as a King Pin.
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That's the trifecta.
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It doesn't get any bigger.
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They don't get any
badder than that.
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JOHN: Don Berna came
up from the bottom.
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He was untouchable for
many many many years.
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There was no question in
my mind Don Berna was the
biggest target in Colombia,
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and I wanted to
make that case that was
going to bring him down.
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JEREMY: Colombia's been in
the grip of a civil conflict
for the last 50 years.
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We've got the leftâwing
guerillas, right wing
paramilitaries,
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but they've all been fed
by drug trafficking,
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and cocaine has been
the fuel on the fire.
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DEREK: I don't know
what this paramilitary
stuff means.
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I guess at first they
had a certain ideology,
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but that fell apart when
they realized how much money
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they can make from
the drug business.
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PETER: Don Berna
is by no stretch of the
imagination an ideologue.
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He was a practical person,
very pragmatic,
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so his creating the AUC
was more of a practical
consideration,
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in order to consolidate
power and control
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over the narco trafficking
trade in Colombia.
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Not because he had some
firm belief in right
wing political ideology.
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(speaking Spanish)
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JAY: Under Don Berna
the AUC was out there
committing massacres.
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Literally crimes
against humanity.
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It is hard to get your head
around how much destruction
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and violence and mayhem
this guy has caused.
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JOHN: These guys were
all traffickers,
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they just hid behind the
AUC to protect themselves
from the government.
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The AUC controlled
every route that went
to the coast,
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and any drug trafficker
that wanted to move cocaine
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through that zone
had to pay a tax.
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And there was no way to get it
out of Colombia without going
through one of their blocks.
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They had a staggering
percentage of the entire
Colombian production
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and staggering percentage of
the amount of cocaine that
flowed to the United States.
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PETER: Colombia was at
the risk of becoming a
narco state.
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It was a very very
dicey situation.
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GEORGE W BUSH: Drugs attack
everything, that is the
best about this country.
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And I intend to do
something about them.
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We're putting the fight
against drugs in the center
of our national agenda.
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PETER: The Justice and Peace
law of Colombia was created
in order to convince
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the members of the AUC, to
come in out of the jungle,
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to lay down their arms,
to turn themselves in,
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and to reâenter
Colombian society.
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President Uribe gave his
word that if the AUC
members did not commit
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any more acts of crime,
they would serve out their
relatively short sentences
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in Colombia and not be
extradited to the
United States.
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JEREMY: Don Berna made
a mistake, he came
out of the shadows.
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As part of a paramilitary
peace process he suddenly
became visible.
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From that moment things
began to go wrong for Berna.
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The AUC enters peace
talks with the government.
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It's a long drawn out peace
process from 2003 to 2006.
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Don Berna was one of
the promoters of the peace
process with the government,
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and indeed the first
paramilitary unit
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that demobilized was
one of Don Berna's.
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Why did he do this?
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He obviously felt that
he was going to get
the golden parachute.
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The golden parachute that
the paramilitaries were
looking for was,
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one, no jail time, two,
no extradition,
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and three, 'Can we keep
some of our money?'
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JAY: There's only four
things you had to do
in order to get
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all the entitlements that the
Justice and Peace offered.
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You had to voluntarily law
down your weapons, you had
to admit to your wrongdoings,
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you had to make
reparations to the victims,
give back the property,
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and ultimately you had
to stop being engaged
in criminal activity.
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You do those four things
and you will serve no more
than eight years in prison,
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no matter what you did.
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And then you'll live
happily ever after.
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It's all you had to do.
The ultimate sweetheart
deal, right?
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PETER: they were not forced
to spend time in prison, they
were forced to spend time
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in fairly lax essentially
work camps of sorts, spread
throughout Colombia.
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DEREK: The demobilization
of the AUC to me is just
a big joke.
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Bottom line is he went
to some 'prison', which
was really not a prison.
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He got to hang out with
the beautiful women and
he got the drinks
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and he had his phones, he
had his communications.
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He continued to do
his business.
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But he was "in
prison" in Colombia.
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JAY: It is the ultimate
deal. And guess what?
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Don Berna and his brethren,
they literally couldn't
stop being criminals.
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They'd been terrorists and
they've been drug traffickers
so long in their life,
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that when they have a
good deal, all they're
thinking of is
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how they can game the system.
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They basically demobilized
a percentage of their
membership,
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and they left their best
drug traffickers
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and their best fighters
out in the field, to
continue operating.
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PETER: Don Berna
in particular continued
massive narco trafficking.
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From his relatively serene
camp he was able to maintain
operational control,
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and as he had done
his entire career, he
operated in the shadows.
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JOHN: In October of
2003, it was the initial
indictment on Don Berna.
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Once the peace and justice
was signed in 2005
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I thought the likelihood
of us getting him
was diminished greatly.
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But at that point I did
take a step back and think
about it and say to myself,
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'These guys can't
stay out of trouble.'
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And it was only a matter of
time before they'd slip up.
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JAY: Don Berna
selfâsurrendered, and it was
all about maintaining that
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sweetheart deal and
maintaining reigns
on his empire.
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And what does he do?
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While he's in captivity
he ordered the murder,
of a politician,
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the politician's wife
and their driver.
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JOHN: It was a turning point,
and the Colombian government
started to turn up the heat,
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and he felt it.
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JAY: And that's when they
had him removed into a
real prison.
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JEREMY: The rest of the
paramilitary leaders went
into prison soon afterwards,
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but this is where we
see, Don Berna's power
beginning to diminish.
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(speaking Spanish)
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PETER: President Uribe was
now under considerable
political pressure
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to extradite Don Berna.
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and the rest of the AUC
leadership to the United
States to face justice there.
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DEREK: In the DEA, in
the US attorney's office,
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we believe very
strongly in extradition.
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We believe in the rule of
law, and we believe in
developing evidence
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against these kingpins,
and we want them to face
justice in America.
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PETER: The members
of the AUC, like Pablo
Escobar decades before,
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understood that if they were
extradited, tried, convicted,
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sentenced and incarcerated
in the United States for
their crimes,
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that was end of the
game for them.
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DEREK: They can't
corrupt the officials,
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they can't get the girls,
they can't get the booze,
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they can't run their
business.
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So they don't want
to come to America.
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PETER: Many of them are
dead serious when they say,
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"Better a grave in Colombia
than a jail cell in the
United States."
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JOHN: Things began to
change in 2007 when other
traffickers wanted
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to come in and surrender
to the United States.
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We brought one of those
witnesses in who had a wealth
of information on Don Berna.
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Really turned up the heat,
because now we can start to
send leads and information
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down to Colombia that they
didn't even know about.
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JAY: There was
overwhelming proof that
was obtained by DEA
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and shared with the
Colombian government,
of the AUC leaders
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reconstituting
themselves, and retooling
themselves into
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a formidable transnational
criminal network from
behind bars in prison.
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This new organization was
going to be as violent and
as dangerous and cause
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as much mayhem as
the former AUC.
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And the AUC leaders were
controlling that from prison.
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They were directing it,
they were devising it, they
were scheming about it.
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You've now created a new
generation of criminals
that are the next level.
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It was the ultimate
betrayal by the AUC.
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PETER: I met with
President Alvaro Uribe
on almost a weekly basis,
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and he became
increasingly frustrated.
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JOHN: I think the
president of Colombia
finally got fed up
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with these guys
embarrassing him.
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They continued to traffic
drugs, people were killed,
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and I think he just finally
said "Enough is enough."
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The president in one
fell swoop signed the
extradition orders,
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of the fourteen of the
highest ranking AUC members
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that had continued to engage
in criminal activity.
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JAY: My first thought would
be "No, no they're not.
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This couldn't really
be happening now."
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There's never been
that many criminals,
kingpin violators,
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and terrorists that have
been extradited at the
exact same time.
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PETER: Meetings regarding
extradition were incredibly
sensitive conversations
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that could, quite
literally impact
democracy in Colombia.
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Because if word got out,
there was great worry
about violence.
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JAY: The moment that the
AUC leaderships learned
that they're about
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to be extradited, they will
put out that order to the
tens of thousands
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of armed individuals that
were working for them,
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to just commit
mayhem in Colombia.
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(speaking in Spanish)
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PETER: There was no margin
for error whatsoever,
legally and operationally.
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We needed to make sure
that we had everything
logistically in order
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because this was truly a
life or death situation.
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JOHN: I had a counterpart
in Colombia, a DEA agent I
worked very closely with
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and he had called me and
said "Hey, keep this quiet,
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there's something
going on here.
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Something big, I don't
know exactly what it
is yet, but get ready."
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JAY: I distinctly
remember Ambassador
William Brownfield
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the US Ambassador to
Colombia.
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He looks at me and he
said "Can you do this?"
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And I looked at him
and I said, "I can get the
resources and I can do this."
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Failure was not an option.
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Why did this happen
in the dead of night?
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We had one shot at this.
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We wouldn't get a
second shot.
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There was a real concern
that the defense council
would get to the courts
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and the courts would impede
that through an injunction.
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We had prisoners in
four different
locations in Colombia.
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We would have to do this
after the courts close,
after 6 P. M.
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and they'd have to be
airborne and out of
Colombian airspace
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before the courts opened
the next morning.
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From flash to bang it
was a question of hours.
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PETER: We were
extraordinarily worried
about the strong likelihood,
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of lethal violence being used
in those moments and those
hours leading up to
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extradition of these highly
dangerous individuals.
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I cannot emphasize enough
how dangerous this
operation was.
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JAY: I had two separate
sets of teams that had
to go out
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depart from Bogota to the
three corners of Colombia,
to different prisons.
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One on the north coast in
Barranquilla, one in Medellin
and one closer to Bogota.
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And then I had a second team
that were actually going
to be the physical exports,
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from Bogota to the next
stop outside of Colombia.
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JOHN: Not to my knowledge
there's ever been this
many people extradited
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of this level and this
caliber at one time.
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It was unprecedented.
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You know I alerted my
supervisor and you know
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the whole New York
side was at a buzz.
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JAY: Colombia is a
very large country.
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It is the size of California
and Texas combined.
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PETER: Keep in mind
as well that Bogota sits
just under 3,000 meters,
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and that is complicated for
pilots and small planes.
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It is also subject to
various changes in
the weather
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to include freak
hailstorms and fog.
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JAY: Two of my agents
inside UH60 Black Hawk
said they could not see
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their own hand in front
of their face,
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and at point the
helicopter went vertical.
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Now they're not on comms with
the pilot, and so all they
know is they're feeling
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the Gs against them, as this
helicopter's going vertical
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and all they can think of
is they're about to smack
into a mountain.
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And twice the helicopters
had to come back because
of weather.
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Twice. Pilots basically said,
"We're going to get everybody
killed if we do this."
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And the head of the
Colombian squad that was
in charge of this mission
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is looking at his watch.
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My DEA folks, they're
looking at their watch,
and the clock is ticking.
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They were going to commandeer
a bunch of police vehicles
and drive to the prison.
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Seems reasonable.
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That choice was aborted.
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The decision was
if they go to the police,
everybody's going to know.
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There's going to
be no secret.
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So what did the head of the
Colombian National police
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of that special unit
decide to do?
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They commandeered
seven taxis.
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They loaded up in seven
taxis from the airport,
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drove to the Itagui prison.
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They do go pick up seven of
the most notorious, violent,
and powerful criminals,
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that the world knows.
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And now they're
driving them back.
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I still don't know what
was the reaction to the
governor of that prison
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when, you know, normally
it would be a UH60, 20
million, you know,
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$15 million dollar
Black Hawk waiting,
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and he goes out and he sees,
seven Colombian yellow taxis.
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The warden said, "I'm not
releasing this person."
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"I don't care what
paperwork you have."
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00:34:04,939 --> 00:34:07,984
"At this hour I wasn't
notified of this.
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I am not losing my job."
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00:34:12,321 --> 00:34:14,949
And so a phone call
needed to be made.
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Whether it was the president,
this could be urban legend
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but the officer in
charge handed a phone
over to the warden
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and said, "There's somebody
on the phone that would like
to speak to you."
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The conversation went
"Yes Mr. President.
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Immediately Mr. President.
Yes sir.
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Thank you, Mr. President."
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"Good night Mr. President."
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Macaco spent his entire
career and his entire
life committing massacres.
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What can he only be thinking
in the middle of the night
being pulled out of prison
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is going to happen?
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He was white as a sheet.
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He had the fear of
God in his eyes.
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He gets to the helicopter,
he sees, my folks there,
he looks up and he says,
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"Are you guys DEA?"
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00:35:15,843 --> 00:35:18,304
And they go "Yeah we are."
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And all of a sudden, he
didn't say a word, but a
smile comes on his face.
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Blood is rushing
back to his face.
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He probably thought he
was going to get what
he used to give.
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JOHN: Don Berna was deathly
afraid of extradition
to the United States.
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Don Berna more than anybody
else had basically given up.
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JAY: They were being woken up
in the middle of the night
without any advanced warning.
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PETER: As they were being
transported to Bogota their
fear morphed into anger.
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One individual actually
looked at his captors and
said, "I've seen your faces."
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"Each and every one of
you are dead men, and
so are your families."
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00:36:50,980 --> 00:36:55,860
JAY: When everybody had
arrived at five o'clock
or so in the morning
433
00:36:55,860 --> 00:36:56,652
I headed down.
434
00:37:00,614 --> 00:37:06,370
That moment is indelibly
etched in my mind.
435
00:37:06,370 --> 00:37:10,291
Fourteen criminals
located at one place
about to be flown out
436
00:37:10,291 --> 00:37:11,751
on a single extradition
mission.
437
00:37:15,713 --> 00:37:18,716
PETER: It was chilling
because these were
individuals
438
00:37:18,716 --> 00:37:22,428
who were entirely capable of
ordering their lieutenants,
439
00:37:22,428 --> 00:37:27,099
their sicarios, their
henchmen and their assassins
to actually kill
440
00:37:27,099 --> 00:37:32,229
not only in Colombia but
in the United States.
441
00:37:32,229 --> 00:37:38,027
I would be lying if I
said we all weren't a bit
nervous.
442
00:37:38,027 --> 00:37:39,779
It was a very,
very tense period.
443
00:37:44,116 --> 00:37:49,413
JAY: Because I have lived the
Don Berna life for two years
since I arrived in Colombia,
444
00:37:49,413 --> 00:37:50,831
I knew exactly what
he looked like.
445
00:37:54,043 --> 00:37:56,378
He had no fight left in him.
446
00:37:56,378 --> 00:37:59,965
He knew it was the
end of the road.
447
00:37:59,965 --> 00:38:05,763
You had Don Berna, Macaco,
Mancuso, Jorge Cuarenta
448
00:38:05,763 --> 00:38:08,849
and then Giraldo Serna.
449
00:38:08,849 --> 00:38:16,023
You literally had the entire
board of directors of the
AUC at the DEA hangar
450
00:38:16,023 --> 00:38:18,150
in Bogota Colombia.
451
00:38:18,150 --> 00:38:22,112
There has not been to this
day an extradition mission,
452
00:38:22,112 --> 00:38:28,869
that's moved so many kingpins
and terrorists at one time
from the Americas
453
00:38:28,869 --> 00:38:30,913
to the United States. Never.
454
00:38:35,376 --> 00:38:38,420
JOHN: The first question
I asked obviously was
"Can I get down there?
455
00:38:38,420 --> 00:38:41,173
I want to fly on the
aircraft back with him."
456
00:38:41,173 --> 00:38:45,094
And the answer was
"Absolutely not."
457
00:38:45,094 --> 00:38:48,055
"This is a super secret
thing going on in Colombia.
458
00:38:48,055 --> 00:38:49,890
We've got to move quickly and
get him out of the country."
459
00:38:54,687 --> 00:39:00,067
JAY: Until that ATR got out
of Colombian airspace and
was over the Caribbean Sea,
460
00:39:00,067 --> 00:39:02,069
I was still holding
my breath.
461
00:39:07,032 --> 00:39:10,661
That is the real con
air flight.
462
00:39:10,661 --> 00:39:14,832
Nicholas Cage has
nothing on that mission.
463
00:39:14,832 --> 00:39:20,045
JEREMY: Macaco, Don
Berna, the top leaders of
the AUC are extradited
464
00:39:20,045 --> 00:39:21,714
to the United States.
465
00:39:21,714 --> 00:39:23,924
It's a game changing
moment in the drug world.
466
00:39:23,924 --> 00:39:26,719
Suddenly the big
dogs are all gone.
467
00:39:28,387 --> 00:39:31,557
JAY: We fly everybody
to Guantanamo Bay
468
00:39:31,557 --> 00:39:34,310
and Don Berna gets his
own Lear Jet to New York.
469
00:39:43,944 --> 00:39:48,574
JOHN: It was an
unbelievable feeling
when that door opened,
470
00:39:48,574 --> 00:39:55,122
the agent walked off and
then right behind him
was Don Berna.
471
00:39:55,122 --> 00:39:58,918
He looked like a broken man.
472
00:39:58,918 --> 00:40:01,545
I told him my name was John
Barry, he knew who I was.
473
00:40:04,131 --> 00:40:07,092
Homeland Security was there
to do the paperwork
474
00:40:07,092 --> 00:40:09,053
and then we walked through.
475
00:40:09,053 --> 00:40:11,847
He was very cooperative
at the time and he didn't
give us a hard time at all.
476
00:40:17,186 --> 00:40:21,357
When we're moving a
CPOT, one of the world's
top drug traffickers,
477
00:40:21,357 --> 00:40:23,192
I'm not stopping anywhere.
478
00:40:23,192 --> 00:40:25,736
We went directly
downtown to the prison.
479
00:40:25,736 --> 00:40:28,155
We knew that we had a
dangerous guy here
480
00:40:28,155 --> 00:40:31,158
and there's been escape
attempts in the past.
481
00:40:31,158 --> 00:40:34,286
And there was no way I
was going to let that
happen on my watch.
482
00:40:37,164 --> 00:40:41,418
PETER: It was incumbent
on the United States
government to provide,
483
00:40:41,418 --> 00:40:47,007
the evidence necessary to
convict these individuals in
courts in the United States,
484
00:40:47,007 --> 00:40:51,011
and obtain very
lengthy sentences.
485
00:40:51,011 --> 00:40:52,680
DEREK: They had
all the evidence.
486
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:54,056
It was sealed up nice.
487
00:40:54,056 --> 00:40:56,183
They put the bow on
top of the prosecution.
488
00:40:56,183 --> 00:40:59,395
And the defense attorneys
realized there's
no way to beat the case.
489
00:40:59,395 --> 00:41:02,064
That's because of detectives
like John Barry
490
00:41:02,064 --> 00:41:04,400
and others that worked
on this investigation.
491
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:08,153
They put together an
airtight prosecution.
492
00:41:08,153 --> 00:41:13,075
What's amazing about this
case, which is unheard of, a
month later he plead guilty.
493
00:41:16,495 --> 00:41:22,543
There's nothing he could
offer that would deserve
a reduction in sentence.
494
00:41:22,543 --> 00:41:26,005
JOHN: When you have
the baddest of the bad,
the worst of the worst,
495
00:41:26,005 --> 00:41:30,092
Don Berna was not one of
those people we wanted
to get a break.
496
00:41:30,092 --> 00:41:34,138
JAY: You have Don Berna the
drug trafficker, you have
Don Berna the terrorist.
497
00:41:34,138 --> 00:41:42,563
He left behind a trail of
blood that is unfathomable
to the average person.
498
00:41:42,563 --> 00:41:46,900
RUBEN: The Colombian
government prevents the
United States from,
499
00:41:46,900 --> 00:41:53,073
having a death penalty
or a life sentence for
their people
500
00:41:53,073 --> 00:41:56,201
that are extradited
out of Colombia.
501
00:41:56,201 --> 00:42:00,956
Famously at the
sentencing the prosecutor
announced to the judge,
502
00:42:00,956 --> 00:42:05,878
that Don Berna was the
Osama Bin Laden of Colombia.
503
00:42:05,878 --> 00:42:10,090
And you can imagine what an
impact that is when you're
saying that after 9/11
504
00:42:10,090 --> 00:42:12,384
in a courtroom in Manhattan.
505
00:42:12,384 --> 00:42:16,096
It was really the death knell
to any possibility of Berna
506
00:42:16,096 --> 00:42:18,265
ever being able to
cooperate in any case.
507
00:42:33,655 --> 00:42:37,534
JOHN: He got 375
months in prison, which
is just over 31 years.
508
00:42:47,669 --> 00:42:52,132
JEREMY: Don Berna
tried invisibility on
for size to begin with,
509
00:42:52,132 --> 00:42:56,887
and then he set up a
criminal infrastructure upon
510
00:42:56,887 --> 00:43:01,642
which today's invisibles
can now piggyback off.
511
00:43:01,642 --> 00:43:04,353
This is a watershed moment.
512
00:43:04,353 --> 00:43:12,653
So for me Don Berna is
the first in the process
of invisibility.
513
00:43:12,653 --> 00:43:16,698
JAY: To the American people
and to the world they
don't now who Don Berna is.
514
00:43:16,698 --> 00:43:22,871
But Don Berna can go toe to
toe with the most wellâknown
traffickers in the world,
515
00:43:22,871 --> 00:43:30,170
Rodriguez Orihuelas, Pablo
Escobar, Don Berna in his own
right eventually rivaled
516
00:43:30,170 --> 00:43:32,756
the worst of the worst.
517
00:43:32,756 --> 00:43:36,051
JOHN: His mistake was
that he got too big.
518
00:43:36,051 --> 00:43:41,431
You can't kill politicians and
you can't kill family members
of people that owe money,
519
00:43:41,431 --> 00:43:44,810
and people are just going
to stay quiet forever.
520
00:43:44,810 --> 00:43:47,729
And once you're
in the limelight, the
bullseye's on your back,
521
00:43:47,729 --> 00:43:49,231
and you better look out.
522
00:43:49,273 --> 00:43:50,274
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