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Narrator: In the criminal justice
system, the people are represented
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by two separate yet
equally important groups...
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The police who
investigate crime,
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and the district attorneys
who prosecute the offenders.
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These are their stories.
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Protesters: Don't kill your
baby! Abortion is a sin.
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Don't kill your baby!
Abortion is a sin.
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Don't kill your baby!
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Abortion is a sin...
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Do they ever get bored?
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The True Believers?
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Not on your life.
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Abortion is a sin!
Don't kill your babies!
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Abortion is a sin!
Don't kill your babies!
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Abortion is a sin!
Don't kill your babies!
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Abortion is a sin!
Don't kill your babies...
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Woman: Past 24
weeks? We can't help you.
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Well, I'm not sure.
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Okay...
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fill this out and you
can see the nurse.
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Women's Choices.
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God, not again.
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So my father says,
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"If you weren't a cop
you would get a husband.
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Who told you to be a cop?"
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My mother says, "I
told her to be a cop
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so she wouldn't worry
about getting a husband."
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You could always marry me.
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You're not what my
father had in mind.
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Radio: 29 Adam,
respond to 312 West 19th
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Chelsea Women's Choices
regarding bomb threat; advise.
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We are at that location
and will advise further.
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Man: Come on, let's go.
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Easy, easy, easy.
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Don't panic. It
will be all right.
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Take it easy.
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Out now!
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That's everybody.
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Man: Come on, let's go.
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Officer: Stay
behind the barrier.
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I'm asking if you saw
anybody carrying something...
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Knapsack, package,
a large bag...
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Anything out of the ordinary.
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Max: Yo!
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Good morning,
Vietnam. What do we got?
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Your garden-variety lunatic
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blowing up a room
with a lot of ladies in it.
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The bomb.
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Your basic type.
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Fertilizer and diesel?
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You got it. Amateur hour.
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The only thing I like more than
a bomber is an amateur bomber.
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Timer? Quartz alarm clock.
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Straight out of "The
Revolutionary Cookbook."
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If that's the main course,
I can't wait to see dessert.
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Yeah, well, there won't
be any dessert for this one.
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Student ID.
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"University of
Manhattan." Sandra Turner.
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21-22, maybe. She
was in the bathroom.
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Was she here for an abortion?
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Doesn't play that way.
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She didn't sign in.
Nobody saw her.
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It looks like she
was the delivery girl,
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but she didn't get
out quick enough.
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Put her right through the wall.
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We get calls all the time...
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False alarms, but still
we get everybody out.
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Did you recognize the
voice on the phone before?
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She only said "bomb." How
could I recognize her voice?
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What about the girl in
the bathroom... Turner?
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Did she fill out a form?
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No way. I didn't see her.
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She wasn't a patient.
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They can't wait to
talk to somebody.
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She must have
carried the bomb in.
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What is wrong with these people?
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Sooner or later,
it had to happen.
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As long as the courts
refuse to act against abortion,
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there are going
to be individuals...
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Are you defending these nuts?
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Come on. This
ain't lone justice.
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It's a conspiracy.
They can't stop abortion
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through the courts, so
they'll bomb a few clinics.
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We don't know that.
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We don't? I don't
remember reading anything
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about a cellular
phone in the bathroom.
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Somebody called in a warning.
Two people make a conspiracy.
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Look, all I'm saying is
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I understand why
they're frustrated.
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Max, a girl is dead.
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She was 22 years old.
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Tell them to write their
congressman, not throw bombs.
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I'm only saying they believe
in something and they're angry.
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They're angry? So they send
a girl in there with a bomb?
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In my book that is not
frustration, that's murder.
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Eight bombings in
the last seven months,
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all of them at night.
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None of them
happened in the daytime.
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Nobody was hurt before either.
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We've got six active
anti-abortion protest groups
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with offices in Manhattan.
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Let's see if the ME's got an ID,
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then we'll start on these.
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Whatever she used
did a real job on her.
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Anybody come to ID her?
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Nah. Logan: No prints?
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Epithelial layers gone.
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I could get better
prints from charcoal.
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You'll have a preliminary
report tomorrow,
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but there's not much
doubt about the COD.
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That's it? Cash... no wallet?
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Just the university ID.
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Nobody on this student number.
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Logan: Try Turner, Sandra.
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We haven't had six
digit IDs in two years.
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Turner, Samuel...
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Turner, Sheila...
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No Turner, Sandra.
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But this is the
university's card?
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No, it isn't.
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This picture is... glued on.
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It's a fake. The real
one's like a license,
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all one piece.
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Back to square one.
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Let's hit some of those
anti-abortion groups.
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0 for three. Number
four... "Women for Life,"
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headed by Rose Schwimmer.
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Our battle isn't about
restoring Central Park,
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or a 15ยข increase
in the subway fare,
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or separating cans and
bottles from our trash.
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It's about human life.
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Sometimes people
go out of bounds.
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Do you ever go out of bounds?
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All the time.
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That's why I'm here.
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You're here to break the law?
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I'm here to stop the
murder of babies.
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Look, let's get this clear.
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Abortion is a right
in this country!
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That clinic was performing a
legal and medical procedure.
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They weren't murdering anything.
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Mrs. Schwimmer...
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a girl is dead.
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The clinic's just a couple
of minutes from here.
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I'm horrified by what happened.
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But you sympathize, don't you?
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I mean, with people
who bomb abortion clinics.
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I don't condone
violence, but I understand.
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Does a woman named Sandra Turner
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belong to your group?
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Would hand me that
folder there, please?
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We have over 2,000
active members.
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And a couple thousand
more come to our vigils,
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and send contributions.
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No Sandra Turner.
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Where were you when
the bomb went off?
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Why?
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People from your group
were picketing that day.
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Am I a suspect, Detective?
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Lazy Jane's around
the corner having tea.
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I guess when you go against
the system the way we do,
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you're guilty until
proven innocent.
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She comes every Wednesday...
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Rose Schwimmer.
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She came in between
10:00 and 11:00.
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Are you sure of the time?
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Why do you think it's
called Lazy Jane's?
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I don't get in until 10:00.
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So what? She
came right after you?
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10:15, 10:30.
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Her friend came in a
couple of minutes later.
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The friend a regular, too?
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Semi... a couple times a month.
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You know the look...
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Raggedy Ann with a
Bendel's charge card.
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She's a real pro-shopper.
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She had this big box with her.
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A box? She put
right on the table.
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Can you believe that?
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I mean, it was the
size of a toaster oven.
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I put it on the chair.
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This isn't a dinner.
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Watch... five years
they'll legalize drugs.
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Pfft! Maybe, maybe not.
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It's a great country, Max.
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You can do what you
want, when you want,
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with who you want.
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Which means if a
woman wants an abortion,
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she can get one.
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Just because she
was careless enough
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to get knocked up
in the first place?
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What are you against,
abortions or sex?
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Abortions. I like sex.
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So a 17-year-old should louse
up her whole life by having a kid?
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17-year-olds shouldn't be
doing what makes babies.
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And crooks shouldn't have guns.
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Get real. What they
should be is more careful.
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Kids aren't careful,
that's why they're kids.
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Mrs. Schwimmer didn't
mention that she had tea
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with Ms. Toaster Oven.
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I get it. Now every pro-life
protestor is a bomber.
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You agree with them, don't you?
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Okay, Don Juan...
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any of your girlfriends
ever have an abortion?
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One ex-girlfriend, who's
now married with two kids...
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Neither of them mine.
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I really don't
have time for this.
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I hate to bother you, but it
is weird that no one saw her.
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Really? If I was
planting a bomb,
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I'd sure try to be invisible.
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That's all the cards.
There's no Sandra Turner.
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I told you... she
didn't sign in.
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How much does an abortion cost?
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$300.
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$300... the price
of a cheap mob hit.
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Hey, Max, look at that.
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Max: Yo! How many
did they take away?
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12, 15.
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Let's go to the
property clerk's office,
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and pick up the
dead girl's keys.
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We got two right here.
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Ooh! Whoa!
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How sweet it is.
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I could get used
to driving this.
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On your salary you
couldn't afford the repairs.
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On my salary I couldn't
even afford the insurance.
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Bingo!
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"Chelsea Women's
Choices Center."
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Let's get the Crime
Scene Unit down here.
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Maybe we'll get lucky
and pull some prints.
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Yeah.
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Come on. Don't
give yourself an ulcer.
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422.
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Mr. Donovan? Yes.
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Sergeant Greevey,
Detective Logan.
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When she didn't
come home last night
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we tried to file a
missing person report.
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They wouldn't take it.
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They said we had
to wait two days.
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Our Father who art in heaven,
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hallowed be Thy name.
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Thy kingdom come,
Thy will be done
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on earth as it is heaven.
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Give us this day
our daily bread,
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and forgive us, we forgive
those who trespass against us.
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You daughter, did she
belong to a right-to-life group?
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The thing about Mary...
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She loves kids.
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That's why she teaches.
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Did Mary ever mention
Women for Life?
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Mr. Donovan: She was
sympathetic to their work, ideals.
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We all are. Did anyone call
the school and tell them that...
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Mary wouldn't be in
today? It's okay, Barbara.
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Couldn't Mary have,
without your knowledge...
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Mary didn't keep
secrets from us.
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We know how hard it is,
257
00:14:42,248 --> 00:14:44,217
but we'd like to
look at Mary's room.
258
00:14:44,250 --> 00:14:47,414
Mary has a thing about privacy.
259
00:14:47,453 --> 00:14:49,012
Barbara...
260
00:14:49,055 --> 00:14:52,924
it doesn't matter if they
go into her room now.
261
00:14:56,996 --> 00:14:58,624
"The Lives of The Saints."
262
00:14:59,766 --> 00:15:01,826
22 years old.
263
00:15:01,868 --> 00:15:04,861
Who sends a kid
to deliver a bomb?
264
00:15:07,106 --> 00:15:08,972
Maybe it was her own idea.
265
00:15:09,008 --> 00:15:10,977
Yeah?
266
00:15:11,010 --> 00:15:12,979
Who taught her how to make one?
267
00:15:13,012 --> 00:15:15,004
Whoever it was,
268
00:15:15,047 --> 00:15:17,073
they should have
taught her about timers.
269
00:15:17,116 --> 00:15:19,984
The mother seems to
be taking it pretty hard.
270
00:15:20,019 --> 00:15:21,988
It's gonna take awhile.
271
00:15:22,021 --> 00:15:24,889
What? To realize that
her daughter is dead?
272
00:15:24,924 --> 00:15:27,257
To realize she
didn't die with her.
273
00:15:27,293 --> 00:15:31,321
The father doesn't seem
to be having that problem.
274
00:15:31,364 --> 00:15:32,889
That's because...
275
00:15:32,932 --> 00:15:34,901
he didn't lose a daughter,
276
00:15:34,934 --> 00:15:36,926
he gained a martyr.
277
00:15:40,139 --> 00:15:41,573
Hey.
278
00:15:42,575 --> 00:15:45,943
Looks like the brother
owns a lumber company.
279
00:15:47,146 --> 00:15:49,672
Lumber... construction.
280
00:15:49,715 --> 00:15:52,378
Construction... explosives.
281
00:15:53,753 --> 00:15:56,416
Anything you can tell
us about Mary's friends,
282
00:15:56,456 --> 00:15:58,982
teachers she was close to?
283
00:15:59,926 --> 00:16:03,158
My father...
284
00:16:03,196 --> 00:16:06,496
poured himself a cup
of coffee this morning.
285
00:16:06,532 --> 00:16:09,263
Put in milk, sugar,
walked over to the sink,
286
00:16:09,302 --> 00:16:11,271
poured it down the drain.
287
00:16:11,304 --> 00:16:13,773
He didn't know what
the hell he was doing.
288
00:16:13,806 --> 00:16:16,867
I got on the West Side
Highway on my way here...
289
00:16:16,909 --> 00:16:18,878
I forgot to get off.
290
00:16:18,911 --> 00:16:21,540
Went the whole
way to 96th Street.
291
00:16:23,182 --> 00:16:25,651
Just like that, I had a sister
292
00:16:25,685 --> 00:16:27,517
and now I don't.
293
00:16:28,654 --> 00:16:30,782
Is there only the two of you?
294
00:16:30,823 --> 00:16:33,987
Mary always said she
would have a big family.
295
00:16:34,026 --> 00:16:37,463
What about these
anti-abortion groups?
296
00:16:37,497 --> 00:16:39,659
She loved kids.
297
00:16:39,699 --> 00:16:41,691
Did she belong to
any organized groups?
298
00:16:43,336 --> 00:16:44,463
Mr. Donovan,
299
00:16:44,504 --> 00:16:46,097
bombing is a felony.
300
00:16:46,138 --> 00:16:48,232
Fine! I think Mary's
paid for her crime in full,
301
00:16:48,274 --> 00:16:49,503
don't you, Detective?
302
00:16:49,542 --> 00:16:52,273
We don't happen to
think she was in this alone.
303
00:16:52,311 --> 00:16:54,280
Don't you want the people
304
00:16:54,313 --> 00:16:56,339
who helped to kill
your sister to pay, too?
305
00:16:58,117 --> 00:17:00,211
If she was the
member of a group,
306
00:17:00,253 --> 00:17:02,381
she never mentioned it to me.
307
00:17:04,123 --> 00:17:06,786
They might know more
at school... Saint Aloysius.
308
00:17:09,028 --> 00:17:11,896
Some people take a
long time to grow up.
309
00:17:11,931 --> 00:17:13,058
Have a seat.
310
00:17:16,135 --> 00:17:20,072
They still believe in
hearts and flowers,
311
00:17:20,106 --> 00:17:22,302
and Mom never
looks at another guy...
312
00:17:22,341 --> 00:17:24,742
Dad doesn't cheat
on his income tax.
313
00:17:24,777 --> 00:17:29,112
For 22, Mary was... young.
314
00:17:29,148 --> 00:17:31,845
Young enough to let somebody
talk her into throwing a bomb?
315
00:17:32,952 --> 00:17:35,683
Gentlemen, a parochial
school like this...
316
00:17:35,721 --> 00:17:38,020
It's another century.
317
00:17:38,057 --> 00:17:39,821
Mary was a sweet kid.
318
00:17:39,859 --> 00:17:42,852
She believed the whole
world was parochial school,
319
00:17:42,895 --> 00:17:44,955
that all the problems
could be solved
320
00:17:44,997 --> 00:17:47,023
with pure thoughts and a rosary.
321
00:17:47,066 --> 00:17:48,694
Logan: Did, uh...
322
00:17:48,734 --> 00:17:51,067
did you know she wasn't
gonna be here yesterday?
323
00:17:51,103 --> 00:17:52,537
Day off.
324
00:17:52,572 --> 00:17:53,938
Regular day off?
325
00:17:55,007 --> 00:17:57,272
No. Do you know how hard it is
326
00:17:57,310 --> 00:17:58,938
to get good teachers these days?
327
00:17:58,978 --> 00:18:01,277
They ask for a
day off, they get it.
328
00:18:01,314 --> 00:18:04,250
Did she happen to tell you why?
329
00:18:04,283 --> 00:18:06,252
Well, she had been upset.
330
00:18:06,285 --> 00:18:08,880
I figured it was her
boyfriend, Patrick Dunn.
331
00:18:08,921 --> 00:18:11,982
He teaches here,
eighth grade Latin.
332
00:18:12,024 --> 00:18:14,493
Last week they had an
argument in the hallway
333
00:18:14,527 --> 00:18:15,995
in front of the kids.
334
00:18:16,028 --> 00:18:19,465
I had to tell them "This is
not appropriate behavior."
335
00:18:19,498 --> 00:18:21,524
She shouldn't have been there.
336
00:18:22,535 --> 00:18:23,764
It's crazy.
337
00:18:23,803 --> 00:18:25,533
So, Patrick...
338
00:18:25,571 --> 00:18:29,372
this fight you had last week,
what was that all about?
339
00:18:29,408 --> 00:18:31,900
Some article in "The Times."
340
00:18:31,944 --> 00:18:35,073
Connecticut's abortion law...
341
00:18:35,114 --> 00:18:37,174
Mary hated abortion.
342
00:18:37,216 --> 00:18:38,582
Hated it.
343
00:18:38,618 --> 00:18:40,109
You?
344
00:18:40,152 --> 00:18:41,882
Why?
345
00:18:44,557 --> 00:18:47,322
Personally, I think it's a sin,
346
00:18:47,360 --> 00:18:49,329
and I think it's immoral.
347
00:18:49,362 --> 00:18:51,058
But I live in the real world.
348
00:18:52,598 --> 00:18:56,126
Did she ever mention a woman
named Rose Schwimmer?
349
00:18:57,503 --> 00:18:59,529
Women for Life.
350
00:18:59,572 --> 00:19:02,041
Everyone knows who she is.
351
00:19:02,074 --> 00:19:05,772
If you're asking whether I carry
false identification, Detective,
352
00:19:05,811 --> 00:19:07,439
the answer is no.
353
00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,210
I'm proud of what I do.
354
00:19:09,248 --> 00:19:11,149
Anybody in your group have any?
355
00:19:11,183 --> 00:19:13,175
Please. Thank you.
356
00:19:15,287 --> 00:19:17,279
This movement attracts
357
00:19:17,323 --> 00:19:19,315
deeply committed individuals.
358
00:19:20,660 --> 00:19:22,356
They get arrested.
359
00:19:23,562 --> 00:19:26,327
Some carry false
identification and jump bail.
360
00:19:26,365 --> 00:19:27,993
And Mary Donovan?
361
00:19:28,034 --> 00:19:30,731
Obviously, deeply committed.
362
00:19:30,770 --> 00:19:32,966
But you didn't even know her.
363
00:19:33,005 --> 00:19:35,338
No, I didn't.
364
00:19:36,676 --> 00:19:39,043
But what I do know
is Mary Donovan,
365
00:19:39,078 --> 00:19:43,174
whoever she was, sacrificed
herself to save the unborn.
366
00:19:43,215 --> 00:19:45,514
Hundreds of them.
367
00:19:45,551 --> 00:19:47,645
I don't approve of her methods,
368
00:19:47,687 --> 00:19:49,849
but I applaud her results.
369
00:19:49,889 --> 00:19:52,791
The day of the bombing
when you had brunch,
370
00:19:52,825 --> 00:19:55,590
you didn't mention
someone else being there...
371
00:19:55,628 --> 00:19:58,723
who happened to be
carrying a large package.
372
00:20:01,300 --> 00:20:03,895
This morning I had
breakfast with my sister.
373
00:20:03,936 --> 00:20:06,201
She carried an umbrella.
374
00:20:06,238 --> 00:20:07,934
I didn't tell you that either.
375
00:20:07,973 --> 00:20:10,272
We're just trying
to do our job here.
376
00:20:10,309 --> 00:20:13,336
We have to verify alibis.
377
00:20:13,379 --> 00:20:15,405
I had brunch with an associate,
378
00:20:15,448 --> 00:20:17,144
Celeste McClure.
379
00:20:19,418 --> 00:20:21,444
Um, this Ms. McClure,
380
00:20:21,487 --> 00:20:23,456
you know where we can find her?
381
00:20:23,489 --> 00:20:25,117
Today?
382
00:20:25,157 --> 00:20:27,149
Probably at the
community garden,
383
00:20:27,193 --> 00:20:28,889
near the stables on 89th Street.
384
00:20:28,928 --> 00:20:31,397
Just came from the printer.
385
00:20:33,499 --> 00:20:35,195
Great, isn't it?
386
00:20:36,402 --> 00:20:38,371
It's wonderful.
387
00:20:39,672 --> 00:20:41,664
Depends on what you're selling.
388
00:20:44,076 --> 00:20:45,908
You're mistaken, Detective.
389
00:20:45,945 --> 00:20:47,573
I didn't know Mary Donovan.
390
00:20:47,613 --> 00:20:49,912
But I wish I had.
391
00:20:49,949 --> 00:20:53,113
What she did makes me proud.
392
00:20:53,152 --> 00:20:54,848
Throwing a bomb?
393
00:20:54,887 --> 00:20:57,652
Innocent people
could have been killed.
394
00:20:57,690 --> 00:20:59,716
In that building
395
00:20:59,759 --> 00:21:02,524
before Mary Donovan
threw that bomb
396
00:21:02,561 --> 00:21:05,622
unborn babies were
being killed every day.
397
00:21:05,664 --> 00:21:09,032
At Lazy Jane's, when you had
brunch with Rose Schwimmer,
398
00:21:09,068 --> 00:21:10,798
what was in the box you had?
399
00:21:10,836 --> 00:21:13,203
Leaflets...
400
00:21:13,239 --> 00:21:14,537
for protestors.
401
00:21:14,573 --> 00:21:17,600
I'm trying to save lives.
You're supposed to save lives.
402
00:21:17,643 --> 00:21:18,941
We're investigating...
403
00:21:18,978 --> 00:21:22,107
A woman who gave her life
in the only cause that counts!
404
00:21:22,148 --> 00:21:24,947
Nobody's... You
wear a wedding ring.
405
00:21:24,984 --> 00:21:26,850
Do you have children?
406
00:21:27,853 --> 00:21:30,982
Would you want your
daughter or your wife
407
00:21:31,023 --> 00:21:33,219
to have an abortion?
408
00:21:33,259 --> 00:21:34,921
No.
409
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,896
But I wouldn't want them
tossing bombs either.
410
00:21:40,966 --> 00:21:42,935
If you don't have
any more questions,
411
00:21:42,968 --> 00:21:44,960
I have work to do.
412
00:21:52,678 --> 00:21:54,510
Hmm, ammonium nitrate.
413
00:21:54,547 --> 00:21:57,984
Now, all she needs
is the diesel fuel.
414
00:21:58,017 --> 00:22:01,510
Hey, you know, that's a good
question she asked about your daughter.
415
00:22:01,554 --> 00:22:03,386
Suppose some
boyfriend knocked her up?
416
00:22:03,422 --> 00:22:06,950
Look! We are not
investigating my daughter,
417
00:22:06,992 --> 00:22:09,791
my sex life with my wife, or
my opinions on contraception.
418
00:22:09,829 --> 00:22:12,628
We are investigating the
bombing of an abortion clinic.
419
00:22:12,665 --> 00:22:14,964
Let's just stick to
the job, all right?
420
00:22:20,206 --> 00:22:22,175
Peterson's 121 nitrate.
421
00:22:22,208 --> 00:22:24,473
Where did you get that?
422
00:22:24,510 --> 00:22:26,550
What, I don't look like I
have a green thumb to you?
423
00:22:26,579 --> 00:22:28,548
You must be one
hell of a gardener.
424
00:22:28,581 --> 00:22:30,607
Do you grow palm
trees in your backyard?
425
00:22:30,649 --> 00:22:32,618
This stuff is for
tropical plants.
426
00:22:32,651 --> 00:22:33,880
New York?
427
00:22:33,919 --> 00:22:35,911
A big item in Hawaii.
428
00:22:42,261 --> 00:22:44,526
Quite a record Mrs.
Schwimmer's got here.
429
00:22:44,563 --> 00:22:48,864
Trespassing,
disturbing the peace...
430
00:22:48,901 --> 00:22:51,029
harassment.
431
00:22:51,070 --> 00:22:53,562
For such a non-violent person
432
00:22:53,606 --> 00:22:55,438
she sure does get around.
433
00:22:55,474 --> 00:22:58,308
I've seen armed robbers who've
got shorter rap sheets than this.
434
00:22:58,344 --> 00:23:02,111
McClure's got nothing
but a dismissed trespass.
435
00:23:02,147 --> 00:23:05,743
It's a big step from
there to armed robbery.
436
00:23:05,818 --> 00:23:07,912
Yeah, well, Donovan's
completely clean.
437
00:23:07,953 --> 00:23:09,785
She doesn't even
have a traffic ticket.
438
00:23:09,822 --> 00:23:12,451
But she was willing to go all
the way up to arson and murder
439
00:23:12,491 --> 00:23:14,357
even with Mr. Clean
for her boyfriend.
440
00:23:14,393 --> 00:23:18,160
The methods are wrong, but
they're trying to prevent murder.
441
00:23:18,197 --> 00:23:19,358
Spare me the rhetoric.
442
00:23:19,398 --> 00:23:21,765
I don't consider
abortion murder.
443
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,235
If a woman wants one,
that's her right to choose...
444
00:23:24,270 --> 00:23:28,105
Not yours, not mine and
certainly not Ms. Rose Schwimmer.
445
00:23:28,140 --> 00:23:29,699
I don't care what you believe,
446
00:23:29,742 --> 00:23:33,804
trying to prevent abortions
by bombing goes way too far.
447
00:23:33,846 --> 00:23:36,008
I don't even know how you
can sit here and defend it.
448
00:23:36,048 --> 00:23:38,093
You and I both know they
didn't mean to hurt anybody!
449
00:23:38,117 --> 00:23:40,518
No, I don't know that, okay?!
450
00:23:40,552 --> 00:23:43,147
Only an idiot thinks
bombs don't hurt people.
451
00:23:43,188 --> 00:23:44,486
Come on, tell me more!
452
00:23:44,523 --> 00:23:46,287
Lab report just came in.
453
00:23:46,325 --> 00:23:48,521
Fertilizer's a match on the bomb
454
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,605
and they got a bunch of
good latent prints on the bag...
455
00:23:50,629 --> 00:23:52,257
All the same woman.
456
00:23:52,298 --> 00:23:54,597
And they're a match for the
parcel on the bomb fragment.
457
00:23:54,633 --> 00:23:58,331
If you two could manage
not to kill each other
458
00:23:58,370 --> 00:24:02,102
maybe you could pick up
McClure and see if her prints match.
459
00:24:10,683 --> 00:24:12,879
We're not saying
it's a slam dunk.
460
00:24:12,918 --> 00:24:16,184
Slam dunk? A bag of
fertilizer and a couple of prints?
461
00:24:16,221 --> 00:24:17,519
Right now, I'd have a hard time
462
00:24:17,556 --> 00:24:19,650
of convicting Celeste
McClure of bad gardening.
463
00:24:19,692 --> 00:24:21,670
I'm trying to make this work
beyond just an indictment.
464
00:24:21,694 --> 00:24:23,185
You don't like it? Don't file.
465
00:24:23,228 --> 00:24:25,094
That's just fine with me.
466
00:24:25,130 --> 00:24:27,895
Are you in favor of people
planting bombs, Sergeant?
467
00:24:27,933 --> 00:24:29,595
Careful, Counselor.
468
00:24:29,635 --> 00:24:32,628
All I'm saying is that these
women are true believers.
469
00:24:32,671 --> 00:24:36,039
And so far, they've hurt
no one but each other.
470
00:24:36,075 --> 00:24:38,237
Yeah. Talk about dumb luck.
471
00:24:40,913 --> 00:24:42,905
Gentlemen.
472
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,685
McClure made the
bomb. Donovan muled it.
473
00:24:50,723 --> 00:24:52,089
Schwimmer ordered it.
474
00:24:52,124 --> 00:24:53,752
You want my advice?
475
00:24:53,792 --> 00:24:55,556
Offer McClure a
plea. She'll take it.
476
00:24:55,594 --> 00:24:57,586
She wants to be a martyr.
477
00:24:59,431 --> 00:25:02,458
Man: Celeste McClure,
the charges are
478
00:25:02,501 --> 00:25:04,094
conspiracy in the third degree,
479
00:25:04,136 --> 00:25:06,435
reckless endangerment
in the second degree,
480
00:25:06,472 --> 00:25:08,839
arson in the second degree.
481
00:25:08,874 --> 00:25:11,309
How does the defendant
plead on the first count?
482
00:25:11,343 --> 00:25:13,312
Not guilty on all
counts, Your Honor.
483
00:25:13,345 --> 00:25:15,905
We request release of the
defendant on her own recognizance.
484
00:25:15,948 --> 00:25:17,917
Based upon what, Mr. Ballard?
485
00:25:17,950 --> 00:25:20,681
These are two serious
felony charges here.
486
00:25:20,719 --> 00:25:23,416
Based on the fact that this
is a political prosecution.
487
00:25:23,455 --> 00:25:26,482
You're not on trial
yet, Counselor.
488
00:25:26,525 --> 00:25:28,494
Your Honor, if it
please the court,
489
00:25:28,527 --> 00:25:31,292
Ms. McClure is a young woman
with no previous criminal record
490
00:25:31,330 --> 00:25:32,821
and close ties to the community.
491
00:25:32,865 --> 00:25:34,424
Mr. Stone?
492
00:25:34,466 --> 00:25:37,265
The People have no objection
to minimum bail, Your Honor.
493
00:25:37,302 --> 00:25:40,830
Then bail is set at
$10,000 cash or bond.
494
00:25:40,873 --> 00:25:42,398
Short date.
495
00:25:45,010 --> 00:25:47,138
Ballard: Thanks for the
bail recommendation.
496
00:25:47,179 --> 00:25:48,477
Stone: Not at all, sir.
497
00:25:48,514 --> 00:25:50,142
Martyrs don't run.
498
00:25:50,182 --> 00:25:52,481
Ballard: How can you allow
yourself to be used like this?
499
00:25:52,518 --> 00:25:55,682
If you're gonna stick your
finger in my eye, Mr. Ballard,
500
00:25:55,721 --> 00:25:57,747
clean your own nails first.
501
00:25:57,790 --> 00:25:59,884
It seems to me the only
reason for this prosecution
502
00:25:59,925 --> 00:26:02,326
is to make the right-to-life
movement look bad.
503
00:26:02,361 --> 00:26:03,989
That'll get you in the papers,
504
00:26:04,029 --> 00:26:06,123
but it won't help your
client and it's not true.
505
00:26:06,165 --> 00:26:08,657
McClure didn't plant that bomb,
506
00:26:08,700 --> 00:26:09,793
Mary Donovan did.
507
00:26:09,835 --> 00:26:11,167
McClure made the bomb.
508
00:26:11,203 --> 00:26:13,604
The best you can get, if
you believe she's guilty...
509
00:26:13,639 --> 00:26:15,437
Conspiracy six, arson four.
510
00:26:15,474 --> 00:26:18,103
Are you accusing me
of filing inflated charges?
511
00:26:18,143 --> 00:26:20,635
I'm only saying you're gonna
cost the state a lot of money
512
00:26:20,679 --> 00:26:22,648
merely to get her on probation.
513
00:26:22,681 --> 00:26:25,627
If probation will keep a bomb out of
that woman's hands, it's worth the money.
514
00:26:25,651 --> 00:26:27,381
These people aren't criminals.
515
00:26:27,419 --> 00:26:29,581
What are they, Mary
Poppins, Mother Teresa?
516
00:26:29,621 --> 00:26:32,489
They are exercising
their right of free speech.
517
00:26:32,524 --> 00:26:34,959
Throwing a bomb
is a little non-verbal
518
00:26:34,993 --> 00:26:37,155
to qualify as speech, sir.
519
00:26:38,197 --> 00:26:40,598
Are you sure you don't
want to recuse yourself?
520
00:26:40,632 --> 00:26:42,362
That's insulting.
521
00:26:42,401 --> 00:26:45,599
I'm personally against abortion
means I can't prosecute a bomber?
522
00:26:45,637 --> 00:26:47,503
What I believe doesn't matter.
523
00:26:47,539 --> 00:26:48,939
I represent the law.
524
00:26:48,974 --> 00:26:50,499
Amazing.
525
00:26:50,542 --> 00:26:53,034
I'm getting angry.
526
00:26:53,078 --> 00:26:56,048
The most emotional issue
527
00:26:56,081 --> 00:26:59,677
that the law has dealt
with since suffrage.
528
00:26:59,718 --> 00:27:02,085
Look at us. Three men...
529
00:27:02,121 --> 00:27:05,285
talking about what
rights women should have
530
00:27:05,324 --> 00:27:06,952
over their own bodies.
531
00:27:06,992 --> 00:27:09,757
Doesn't that strike you
as a little one-sided?
532
00:27:09,795 --> 00:27:11,423
Adam, I have already told you
533
00:27:11,463 --> 00:27:15,423
my personal feelings have no impact
on my ability to prosecute a criminal case.
534
00:27:15,467 --> 00:27:18,801
And I have never said that a woman
does not have the right to choose.
535
00:27:18,837 --> 00:27:20,863
Adam: Fine. Wonderful.
536
00:27:20,906 --> 00:27:24,968
Are you feeling shaky
on that conspiracy charge?
537
00:27:25,010 --> 00:27:28,447
You better tie the bomb
maker to the bomber
538
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,449
with a little more than
what you got there.
539
00:27:30,482 --> 00:27:32,474
We prove McClure made the bomb,
540
00:27:32,518 --> 00:27:34,077
Donovan delivered it.
541
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:35,553
What about Schwimmer?
542
00:27:35,587 --> 00:27:37,351
That's flimsy.
543
00:27:37,389 --> 00:27:40,382
And it's risky. We tie her into
the picture, it doesn't work...
544
00:27:40,425 --> 00:27:42,792
I wouldn't go even for an
indictment with what we got now.
545
00:27:42,828 --> 00:27:46,595
But? It is a conspiracy,
and I want to make it stick!
546
00:27:46,632 --> 00:27:48,328
Forensics ever send
over a print report?
547
00:27:48,367 --> 00:27:49,811
Finally. There's
another set of prints
548
00:27:49,835 --> 00:27:52,464
along with Mary Donovan's
on that counterfeit ID card.
549
00:27:52,504 --> 00:27:54,473
We don't figure out
who they belong to,
550
00:27:54,506 --> 00:27:56,873
Ballard will say someone
else was in league with Mary.
551
00:27:56,909 --> 00:27:59,208
Get a print work-up on
everybody who knew her.
552
00:27:59,244 --> 00:28:01,076
You argue with
Schiff a lot on this.
553
00:28:01,113 --> 00:28:03,742
Yeah. Do you agree with
him? That's not an issue for me.
554
00:28:03,782 --> 00:28:05,910
I'm not for abortion,
I'm for birth control.
555
00:28:05,951 --> 00:28:08,250
I got your fertilizer.
Make me happy.
556
00:28:08,287 --> 00:28:10,756
McClure bought one bag
from the same supplier
557
00:28:10,789 --> 00:28:12,758
who sells to the
community garden.
558
00:28:12,791 --> 00:28:15,124
Ordered it herself. She
didn't happen to sign...?
559
00:28:16,495 --> 00:28:18,487
You just made me very happy.
560
00:28:19,531 --> 00:28:21,966
The only deal
we're interested in
561
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,299
is you drop everything. Don't
even go to the grand jury.
562
00:28:24,336 --> 00:28:26,965
Put your emotions in your
briefcase for a couple of minutes.
563
00:28:27,005 --> 00:28:29,372
This case is about emotion.
564
00:28:29,408 --> 00:28:32,071
I hope you know your law
better than that, Mr. Ballard.
565
00:28:32,110 --> 00:28:33,669
I know juries are swayed by it.
566
00:28:33,712 --> 00:28:35,840
It's your gamble, Mr. Ballard.
567
00:28:37,115 --> 00:28:40,847
Ms. McClure, you and Mary
Donovan bombed a clinic.
568
00:28:40,886 --> 00:28:43,412
Mary Donovan is
dead and you're not.
569
00:28:53,865 --> 00:28:56,494
She's a nice, young
lady. She made a mistake.
570
00:28:56,535 --> 00:28:59,903
I hope you're not going to let
her take the fall all by herself.
571
00:28:59,938 --> 00:29:02,407
All she has to do is
name who ordered it.
572
00:29:02,441 --> 00:29:05,878
It doesn't matter
what happens to me.
573
00:29:05,911 --> 00:29:08,278
The babies matter.
574
00:29:08,313 --> 00:29:11,613
Arson in the second
degree is a class "B" felony.
575
00:29:11,650 --> 00:29:15,314
I assume Mr. Ballard told you
the sentence if you're convicted?
576
00:29:15,354 --> 00:29:16,788
Six years in jail.
577
00:29:16,822 --> 00:29:18,950
Six years in
prison, Ms. McClure.
578
00:29:21,026 --> 00:29:23,495
May we leave now, Mr. Ballard?
579
00:29:34,773 --> 00:29:36,537
23 years old.
580
00:29:36,575 --> 00:29:39,545
She can't even imagine what
six years of hard time is like.
581
00:29:39,578 --> 00:29:41,706
Somebody's using her.
582
00:29:41,747 --> 00:29:43,079
Schwimmer?
583
00:29:44,082 --> 00:29:46,051
An hour ago, I didn't know,
584
00:29:46,084 --> 00:29:47,712
but now, even money.
585
00:29:47,753 --> 00:29:50,018
Still, it usually
doesn't work this way.
586
00:29:50,055 --> 00:29:52,684
Usually the criminal
doesn't want to go to jail.
587
00:29:52,724 --> 00:29:53,885
McClure does.
588
00:29:53,925 --> 00:29:56,690
She'll become a martyr. She'll
never give up on Schwimmer.
589
00:29:56,728 --> 00:29:58,356
She won't give anybody.
590
00:29:58,397 --> 00:30:01,856
Except herself. It's about morality
for her, not legal compromise.
591
00:30:01,900 --> 00:30:03,869
So why don't we
turn this thing around?
592
00:30:03,902 --> 00:30:05,632
Let's try a reverse.
593
00:30:05,671 --> 00:30:09,130
I'm not part of any
conspiracy, Mr. Robinette.
594
00:30:09,174 --> 00:30:11,143
You understand, Ms. Schwimmer,
595
00:30:11,176 --> 00:30:14,146
we're going to request the maximum
sentence for Celeste McClure?
596
00:30:14,179 --> 00:30:16,671
You might ask your
attorney what that means.
597
00:30:16,715 --> 00:30:18,684
First you have to
get a conviction...
598
00:30:18,717 --> 00:30:20,743
With very thin evidence.
599
00:30:20,786 --> 00:30:23,187
Evidence we think a
jury will find convincing.
600
00:30:23,221 --> 00:30:25,918
Celeste McClure
will go to prison
601
00:30:25,957 --> 00:30:27,926
for a long time.
602
00:30:27,959 --> 00:30:31,293
Lawyer: People in this
state would never forget her.
603
00:30:31,330 --> 00:30:34,300
Fine. Make her a martyr.
604
00:30:34,333 --> 00:30:37,565
But Celeste McClure
is a young kid.
605
00:30:37,602 --> 00:30:40,595
Are you going to let
her rot behind bars?
606
00:30:41,606 --> 00:30:45,338
Rose, don't say anything
until we've talked.
607
00:30:45,377 --> 00:30:47,744
This meeting is over.
608
00:30:50,949 --> 00:30:52,975
Robinette: You never heard
their names mentioned?
609
00:30:53,018 --> 00:30:56,147
Schwimmer or McClure?
610
00:30:56,188 --> 00:30:57,816
Never.
611
00:30:57,856 --> 00:31:00,951
Anything you remember
about the day of the bombing?
612
00:31:00,992 --> 00:31:04,520
Anything you've thought about
since you talked with the police?
613
00:31:04,563 --> 00:31:07,761
Barbara: Mary said she
was taking the day off...
614
00:31:07,799 --> 00:31:09,859
Shopping.
615
00:31:09,901 --> 00:31:13,394
Patrick, her boyfriend, he
came to drive her to school.
616
00:31:13,438 --> 00:31:17,034
They had an argument outside.
617
00:31:17,075 --> 00:31:19,340
Couples have arguments.
618
00:31:19,378 --> 00:31:21,347
It was serious enough, Jeffrey,
619
00:31:21,380 --> 00:31:23,042
for Kevin to try to break it up.
620
00:31:24,049 --> 00:31:26,814
Your son here that
early in the morning a lot?
621
00:31:26,852 --> 00:31:28,650
Jeffrey: He stops
by occasionally.
622
00:31:28,687 --> 00:31:30,315
Not that often.
623
00:31:30,355 --> 00:31:32,324
What was the argument about?
624
00:31:32,357 --> 00:31:34,724
Something Patrick had with him.
625
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,456
Nothing.
626
00:31:36,495 --> 00:31:38,794
An envelope. Nothing?
627
00:31:38,830 --> 00:31:40,822
So why did we hear them yelling?
628
00:31:42,300 --> 00:31:44,531
Our daughter did what she did
629
00:31:44,569 --> 00:31:47,129
out of her own conscience.
630
00:31:47,172 --> 00:31:49,641
We can live with that.
631
00:31:49,674 --> 00:31:51,267
You can live with that, Jeffrey!
632
00:31:51,309 --> 00:31:54,177
A martyr will never
be able to tell me
633
00:31:54,212 --> 00:31:56,977
what a wonderful day she
had at school yesterday.
634
00:31:57,015 --> 00:31:59,246
A martyr will never
have a wedding.
635
00:31:59,284 --> 00:32:01,446
A martyr will never
have children.
636
00:32:07,759 --> 00:32:09,728
I wanted to go to Barbados.
637
00:32:09,761 --> 00:32:12,321
I brought her a brochure.
638
00:32:12,364 --> 00:32:14,356
I thought it would convince her.
639
00:32:15,367 --> 00:32:17,199
That's what was in the envelope.
640
00:32:17,235 --> 00:32:19,727
That's all it was
about? Her parents...
641
00:32:19,771 --> 00:32:23,503
She felt it would look bad
642
00:32:23,542 --> 00:32:26,034
if we went together not married.
643
00:32:26,077 --> 00:32:30,640
She said I was being
insensitive to their feelings.
644
00:32:33,552 --> 00:32:35,350
I had it all planned.
645
00:32:35,387 --> 00:32:37,618
A romantic place...
646
00:32:37,656 --> 00:32:40,956
It's stupid.
647
00:32:40,992 --> 00:32:43,621
I guess I felt I needed
the right setting.
648
00:32:45,263 --> 00:32:48,461
I was going to ask
her to marry me.
649
00:32:52,971 --> 00:32:54,735
It wasn't that big a fight.
650
00:32:54,773 --> 00:32:56,469
So why did you get involved?
651
00:32:56,508 --> 00:32:58,204
I went out to talk to them.
652
00:32:58,243 --> 00:32:59,734
Your mother heard you yelling.
653
00:32:59,778 --> 00:33:02,441
Patrick said your
sister was upset.
654
00:33:02,481 --> 00:33:04,211
There was no fight.
655
00:33:04,249 --> 00:33:06,411
You're lying, Kevin!
What are you gonna do?
656
00:33:06,451 --> 00:33:08,647
You want to charge me
with the bombing of the clinic?
657
00:33:08,687 --> 00:33:11,953
You can count on it, if I find
you're covering up a crime.
658
00:33:14,493 --> 00:33:16,928
I don't know anything
about the bombing.
659
00:33:22,801 --> 00:33:24,667
We'll call you if we need you.
660
00:33:27,172 --> 00:33:29,539
The Donovan ID?
The other fingerprints?
661
00:33:29,574 --> 00:33:31,566
Got a match? Just
came in from Washington.
662
00:33:31,610 --> 00:33:33,238
He'd been in the army.
663
00:33:33,278 --> 00:33:35,144
Who? The boyfriend...
664
00:33:35,180 --> 00:33:37,172
Patrick Dunn.
665
00:33:39,618 --> 00:33:42,019
By themselves, the
fingerprints aren't proof.
666
00:33:42,053 --> 00:33:44,648
She could have
shown him the card...
667
00:33:44,689 --> 00:33:47,784
without telling him she was
gonna use it to plant a bomb.
668
00:33:47,826 --> 00:33:49,454
We need something else.
669
00:33:49,494 --> 00:33:51,793
Yeah. The brother has a story,
670
00:33:51,830 --> 00:33:54,061
boyfriend another.
671
00:33:54,099 --> 00:33:57,900
What about if we arrest Patrick
672
00:33:57,936 --> 00:34:00,235
as a co-conspirator?
673
00:34:00,272 --> 00:34:02,070
Based on the prints?
674
00:34:02,107 --> 00:34:04,736
I don't want him arraigned
if you don't think he's guilty.
675
00:34:04,776 --> 00:34:07,405
I don't know if he's guilty,
but let's arrest him anyway,
676
00:34:07,445 --> 00:34:09,557
not arraign him till tomorrow,
put him in a room with Kevin...
677
00:34:09,581 --> 00:34:12,380
And see what shakes loose. Yeah.
678
00:34:12,417 --> 00:34:14,579
The charge is arson
and conspiracy.
679
00:34:14,619 --> 00:34:16,747
I'm not involved
in that bombing.
680
00:34:16,788 --> 00:34:19,019
You can call your
lawyer in a few minutes.
681
00:34:21,059 --> 00:34:23,528
This is unbelievable.
682
00:34:24,763 --> 00:34:26,197
What's he doing here?
683
00:34:26,231 --> 00:34:28,325
Is he being arrested too?
684
00:34:28,366 --> 00:34:29,994
Arrested? Mary's false ID card.
685
00:34:30,035 --> 00:34:31,594
Patrick's
fingerprints are on it.
686
00:34:31,636 --> 00:34:34,003
Did you get it for her so
she could do the bombing?
687
00:34:34,039 --> 00:34:36,008
Makes you co-conspirator.
688
00:34:36,041 --> 00:34:38,601
I'm not going to jail, Kevin.
689
00:34:38,643 --> 00:34:40,612
I can prove I wasn't involved.
690
00:34:40,645 --> 00:34:41,874
Mary wasn't involved either.
691
00:34:41,913 --> 00:34:43,541
Shut up! Shut up!
692
00:34:43,582 --> 00:34:44,582
Stone: Hey!
693
00:34:52,424 --> 00:34:54,256
All he wanted was
for her to be a martyr
694
00:34:54,292 --> 00:34:55,590
instead of a sinner.
695
00:34:55,627 --> 00:34:58,654
She didn't go there
to bomb the clinic.
696
00:35:00,198 --> 00:35:02,030
She was pregnant.
697
00:35:03,401 --> 00:35:05,632
She was there to
have an abortion.
698
00:35:05,670 --> 00:35:08,367
She was there to kill our baby.
699
00:35:13,878 --> 00:35:15,847
She was ashamed.
700
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,849
She thought if her
parents found out...
701
00:35:17,882 --> 00:35:20,351
You wanted to marry her. That
would have solved everything.
702
00:35:20,385 --> 00:35:21,876
It doesn't matter.
703
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,515
The baby comes
early, everybody knows.
704
00:35:24,556 --> 00:35:27,526
So, under a false name
she'd have an abortion.
705
00:35:27,559 --> 00:35:29,425
That morning
706
00:35:29,461 --> 00:35:31,987
I gave her the ID and the money
707
00:35:32,030 --> 00:35:33,464
so that she could...
708
00:35:35,266 --> 00:35:38,134
I pleaded with her to
at least let me take her.
709
00:35:38,169 --> 00:35:40,764
I pleaded.
710
00:35:44,342 --> 00:35:46,072
With arson you
could be a martyr.
711
00:35:46,111 --> 00:35:48,478
With conspiracy you
could still be a martyr.
712
00:35:48,513 --> 00:35:52,473
But Ms. McClure, now... Now
we are talking about murder.
713
00:35:54,653 --> 00:35:56,645
I didn't kill anybody.
714
00:35:56,688 --> 00:35:58,953
Mary Donovan did
not get hit by a car.
715
00:35:59,024 --> 00:36:00,788
Tell her, Mr. Ballard.
716
00:36:04,629 --> 00:36:07,724
It's not six years
in jail anymore.
717
00:36:07,766 --> 00:36:10,065
Ballard: You'll never
get her for manslaughter.
718
00:36:10,101 --> 00:36:13,037
Manslaughter? We are now talking
about murder in the second degree...
719
00:36:13,071 --> 00:36:14,767
Depraved indifference
to human life.
720
00:36:14,806 --> 00:36:15,830
You're out of your mind.
721
00:36:15,874 --> 00:36:18,503
Stone: 15 years
to life behind bars.
722
00:36:18,543 --> 00:36:20,569
I don't want to
put you in prison,
723
00:36:20,612 --> 00:36:22,444
but somebody
killed Mary Donovan.
724
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,473
An innocent woman
died. That is murder.
725
00:36:25,517 --> 00:36:28,146
That makes you no better
than the people you oppose.
726
00:36:28,186 --> 00:36:30,155
Counselor, she's a kid.
727
00:36:30,188 --> 00:36:31,520
You said so yourself.
728
00:36:34,292 --> 00:36:36,523
Mary Donovan was a kid, too.
729
00:36:36,561 --> 00:36:38,689
Ask her parents.
730
00:36:44,436 --> 00:36:47,270
She pleads on all three
counts outstanding.
731
00:36:47,305 --> 00:36:48,830
You recommend minimum sentences.
732
00:36:48,873 --> 00:36:51,672
She testifies against nobody.
733
00:36:51,710 --> 00:36:54,874
If this was Schwimmer's
idea, she testifies against her.
734
00:36:54,913 --> 00:36:56,882
We drop down to
conspiracy six, arson four.
735
00:36:56,915 --> 00:37:00,010
She pleads to criminally
negligent homicide.
736
00:37:00,051 --> 00:37:01,383
She does six months.
737
00:37:02,387 --> 00:37:04,515
Celeste, do you understand?
738
00:37:07,525 --> 00:37:09,687
If I thought anyone
would get hurt,
739
00:37:09,728 --> 00:37:12,197
I wouldn't have
given Rose the bomb.
740
00:37:14,532 --> 00:37:17,092
The charges here are
conspiracy in the second degree,
741
00:37:17,135 --> 00:37:20,230
arson in the second degree,
murder in the second degree.
742
00:37:20,271 --> 00:37:22,365
Does the defendant
wish to enter a plea?
743
00:37:22,407 --> 00:37:24,171
Not guilty, Your Honor.
744
00:37:24,209 --> 00:37:26,701
If it pleases the court,
we're requesting bail.
745
00:37:26,745 --> 00:37:27,974
Mr. Stone?
746
00:37:28,012 --> 00:37:31,278
Ms. Schwimmer has been
convicted of several misdemeanors,
747
00:37:31,316 --> 00:37:32,944
and has made every
court appearance,
748
00:37:32,984 --> 00:37:34,612
however, in our experience,
749
00:37:34,652 --> 00:37:36,712
activists accused of
more serious crimes
750
00:37:36,755 --> 00:37:39,281
have sometimes decided
to work for their cause
751
00:37:39,324 --> 00:37:41,793
from behind the
scenes... Far behind.
752
00:37:41,826 --> 00:37:43,795
Therefore, the people recommend
753
00:37:43,828 --> 00:37:45,626
the defendant be
held without bail.
754
00:37:45,663 --> 00:37:48,827
Your Honor, there's no reason to
believe the defendant is a flight risk.
755
00:37:48,867 --> 00:37:51,496
Mr. Stone, I'm inclined
to agree with Mr. Malloy.
756
00:37:51,536 --> 00:37:55,473
What applies generally may not
apply specifically to this defendant.
757
00:37:55,507 --> 00:37:56,566
I understand.
758
00:37:56,608 --> 00:37:58,577
But this is a
homicide, Mr. Malloy,
759
00:37:58,610 --> 00:38:00,704
with two additional
felony charges.
760
00:38:02,380 --> 00:38:04,008
Bail is set at...
761
00:38:04,048 --> 00:38:07,416
$300,000.
762
00:38:09,554 --> 00:38:11,386
Stone: Regardless of
your personal feelings,
763
00:38:11,422 --> 00:38:14,017
you are not being asked
to decide a moral issue.
764
00:38:14,058 --> 00:38:16,527
You are being asked
to decide a legal issue.
765
00:38:16,561 --> 00:38:19,258
The crime is the murder
of a young woman
766
00:38:19,297 --> 00:38:20,925
by an exploding bomb.
767
00:38:20,965 --> 00:38:23,594
And that woman,
Ms. Rose Schwimmer,
768
00:38:23,635 --> 00:38:26,195
is accused of placing a bomb
769
00:38:26,237 --> 00:38:29,036
with depraved
indifference to human life...
770
00:38:29,073 --> 00:38:31,372
Indifference to
anyone it might hurt.
771
00:38:31,409 --> 00:38:36,143
You may hear the arguments
that the ends justify the means,
772
00:38:36,181 --> 00:38:39,743
that an illegal act
is somehow justified
773
00:38:39,784 --> 00:38:41,377
by a moral cause.
774
00:38:41,419 --> 00:38:43,786
If you're even tempted to
agree with that argument,
775
00:38:43,822 --> 00:38:45,290
please remember,
776
00:38:45,323 --> 00:38:48,122
killing is not only
against the law,
777
00:38:48,159 --> 00:38:50,390
it is also immoral.
778
00:38:50,428 --> 00:38:52,795
And if anyone suggests to you
779
00:38:52,831 --> 00:38:55,460
that morality and law
are somehow in conflict,
780
00:38:55,500 --> 00:38:58,060
I ask you to remember that.
781
00:38:58,102 --> 00:39:00,901
Stone: Is fertilizer
and diesel fuel
782
00:39:00,939 --> 00:39:02,908
a commonly known explosive?
783
00:39:02,941 --> 00:39:05,001
They blow mountains
apart with it.
784
00:39:05,043 --> 00:39:07,979
Did you find actual
pieces of the bomb?
785
00:39:08,012 --> 00:39:09,776
That's correct. Fragments of it
786
00:39:09,814 --> 00:39:11,942
were coated with the
fertilizer compound.
787
00:39:11,983 --> 00:39:14,475
Did you make a comparison
between that compound
788
00:39:14,519 --> 00:39:17,114
and the fertilizer taken
from the community garden?
789
00:39:17,155 --> 00:39:19,454
I did. What were the results?
790
00:39:19,490 --> 00:39:21,322
They were chemically identical.
791
00:39:21,359 --> 00:39:23,453
Thank you. No further
questions, Your Honor.
792
00:39:23,494 --> 00:39:25,395
Mr. Oliver,
793
00:39:25,430 --> 00:39:28,559
is the chemical in the
fertilizer in question
794
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,502
available as a chemical other
than in that particular fertilizer?
795
00:39:31,536 --> 00:39:35,769
Yes. Other manufacturers
make the same formulation.
796
00:39:35,807 --> 00:39:38,902
And is it also available just
as a chemical compound
797
00:39:38,943 --> 00:39:40,775
that has nothing
to do with fertilizer?
798
00:39:40,812 --> 00:39:42,508
Yes.
799
00:39:42,547 --> 00:39:46,575
So the nitrate in the bomb could
have come from somewhere else?
800
00:39:46,618 --> 00:39:49,417
It's remotely possible.
One in a million.
801
00:39:49,454 --> 00:39:51,423
Thank you. No more questions.
802
00:39:52,423 --> 00:39:54,858
Reporter: Demanding police
protection for abortion clinics,
803
00:39:54,893 --> 00:39:57,192
an estimated 10,000
pro-choice demonstrators
804
00:39:57,228 --> 00:39:58,696
marched down 10th Avenue.
805
00:40:00,298 --> 00:40:02,733
It's only going to get worse.
806
00:40:02,767 --> 00:40:04,759
Luckily, that ain't my problem.
807
00:40:07,105 --> 00:40:09,336
We're willing to
consider a plea.
808
00:40:09,374 --> 00:40:10,808
Manslaughter two.
809
00:40:10,842 --> 00:40:13,573
Mary Donovan was
the perfect martyr.
810
00:40:13,611 --> 00:40:15,705
You should have
left it that way.
811
00:40:15,747 --> 00:40:17,978
And you, hiding
behind a dead woman?
812
00:40:18,016 --> 00:40:19,985
I don't think the
jury will like that.
813
00:40:20,018 --> 00:40:23,511
Mary Donovan was
ready to kill her baby.
814
00:40:23,554 --> 00:40:26,046
Will the jury like
that any better?
815
00:40:26,090 --> 00:40:28,559
Mary Donovan
is not on trial here.
816
00:40:28,593 --> 00:40:30,619
She will be.
817
00:40:30,662 --> 00:40:34,030
She conspired to commit murder.
818
00:40:36,134 --> 00:40:39,195
Are you admitting that
Mary didn't plant the bomb?
819
00:40:44,208 --> 00:40:48,908
In this state, capital
punishment is against the law.
820
00:40:48,947 --> 00:40:51,917
Yet, you're ready to risk your
own form of capital punishment
821
00:40:51,950 --> 00:40:54,317
against people you
consider deserving of it?
822
00:40:54,352 --> 00:40:56,378
They do deserve it.
823
00:40:56,421 --> 00:40:58,788
This isn't getting us anywhere.
824
00:40:58,823 --> 00:41:01,054
Come on, Rose.
825
00:41:06,297 --> 00:41:07,595
Ms. Schwimmer?
826
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,268
I think you should reconsider.
827
00:41:12,303 --> 00:41:15,535
I don't make
deals with the devil.
828
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,342
Stone: Two and
a half months ago,
829
00:41:24,382 --> 00:41:26,476
did Ms. McClure
come into your store
830
00:41:26,517 --> 00:41:27,815
and place her usual order?
831
00:41:27,852 --> 00:41:29,480
Yes, she did.
832
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,614
Did she add
anything unusual to it?
833
00:41:31,656 --> 00:41:33,488
Objection. Characterization.
834
00:41:33,524 --> 00:41:35,152
Sustained.
835
00:41:35,193 --> 00:41:37,822
Did Ms. McClure's
purchases include
836
00:41:37,862 --> 00:41:40,832
anything she did not
make on a regular basis?
837
00:41:40,865 --> 00:41:44,233
Yes. A 50-pound
bag of fertilizer
838
00:41:44,268 --> 00:41:46,737
with a special nitrate formula.
839
00:41:46,771 --> 00:41:48,535
Did that strike you as strange?
840
00:41:48,573 --> 00:41:51,634
It's used mostly for palm trees.
841
00:41:51,676 --> 00:41:54,510
I told her it would
kill her plants.
842
00:41:54,545 --> 00:41:56,673
I had to special order it.
843
00:41:56,714 --> 00:41:59,115
On that day when Ms.
McClure ordered the fertilizer,
844
00:41:59,150 --> 00:42:00,675
was anyone with her?
845
00:42:00,718 --> 00:42:01,947
Yes.
846
00:42:01,986 --> 00:42:04,319
Is that person in
this courtroom?
847
00:42:04,355 --> 00:42:05,653
Yes.
848
00:42:05,690 --> 00:42:07,852
Would you point that
person out for the jury?
849
00:42:09,293 --> 00:42:11,694
She's sitting right over there.
850
00:42:11,729 --> 00:42:13,698
Stone: You Honor,
may the record show
851
00:42:13,731 --> 00:42:15,700
that she's pointing
to the defendant?
852
00:42:15,733 --> 00:42:17,725
Judge: Let the
record so indicate.
853
00:42:20,104 --> 00:42:22,403
Rose said...
854
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,638
talking, marching...
855
00:42:25,676 --> 00:42:28,805
it wasn't stopping
the abortions.
856
00:42:28,846 --> 00:42:31,475
She was right.
857
00:42:31,516 --> 00:42:35,578
Every day, more babies
were being murdered.
858
00:42:35,620 --> 00:42:37,748
Did Ms. Schwimmer
talk about the bombings
859
00:42:37,789 --> 00:42:40,054
in front of the other
members of Women for Life?
860
00:42:41,459 --> 00:42:43,724
She said they
wouldn't understand.
861
00:42:45,229 --> 00:42:47,755
And...
862
00:42:47,799 --> 00:42:51,702
that if it was
just the two of us,
863
00:42:51,736 --> 00:42:54,262
nobody would find out.
864
00:42:54,305 --> 00:42:56,638
When did you give Ms.
Schwimmer the bomb?
865
00:42:56,674 --> 00:43:00,042
I met her for
brunch that morning,
866
00:43:00,078 --> 00:43:02,479
at Lazy Jane's
867
00:43:02,513 --> 00:43:04,607
on 7th Avenue.
868
00:43:04,649 --> 00:43:06,618
Stone: Tell the jury
what happened then.
869
00:43:08,653 --> 00:43:09,780
Ms. McClure?
870
00:43:12,723 --> 00:43:14,487
Rose...
871
00:43:14,525 --> 00:43:16,756
said she would go
out the back door.
872
00:43:16,794 --> 00:43:19,423
It's next to the ladies room.
873
00:43:21,732 --> 00:43:23,724
She said...
874
00:43:23,768 --> 00:43:25,396
she could get down the alley
875
00:43:25,436 --> 00:43:28,167
and back within 10 minutes.
876
00:43:29,774 --> 00:43:32,243
She told me to
wait for five minutes,
877
00:43:32,276 --> 00:43:34,677
and then call the
clinic and warn them.
878
00:43:34,712 --> 00:43:36,203
Did you make the call?
879
00:43:36,247 --> 00:43:37,772
Yes.
880
00:43:37,815 --> 00:43:39,807
Your Honor, I would
like to enter into evidence
881
00:43:39,851 --> 00:43:41,820
telephone company
records showing calls
882
00:43:41,853 --> 00:43:44,118
made from the pay phone
883
00:43:44,155 --> 00:43:47,148
of the Lazy Jane Restaurant
on the day of the bombing.
884
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,353
No further questions,
Your Honor.
885
00:43:57,568 --> 00:43:59,298
Is defense ready
for its summation?
886
00:43:59,337 --> 00:44:01,863
Your Honor, at this time,
887
00:44:01,906 --> 00:44:03,898
against advice of counsel,
888
00:44:03,941 --> 00:44:07,070
the defendant wishes to
testify in her own behalf.
889
00:44:07,111 --> 00:44:09,273
Judge: Ms. Schwimmer,
890
00:44:09,313 --> 00:44:11,839
you realize you'll be
subject to cross-examination?
891
00:44:11,883 --> 00:44:13,647
I do, Your Honor.
892
00:44:13,684 --> 00:44:15,676
I urge you to reconsider.
893
00:44:15,720 --> 00:44:17,552
Listen to advice of counsel.
894
00:44:17,588 --> 00:44:21,787
However, I won't prevent
you from testifying.
895
00:44:38,276 --> 00:44:40,802
Do you swear to tell the
truth, so help you God?
896
00:44:40,845 --> 00:44:42,780
I certainly do.
897
00:44:45,249 --> 00:44:47,047
Ballard: Ms. Schwimmer,
898
00:44:47,084 --> 00:44:49,644
did you conspire
with Celeste McClure
899
00:44:49,687 --> 00:44:52,919
to bomb the Chelsea
Women's Choice Center,
900
00:44:52,957 --> 00:44:55,324
as well as seven
other abortion clinics?
901
00:44:55,359 --> 00:44:57,089
Yes, I did.
902
00:44:59,230 --> 00:45:02,359
Then you're guilty of the
charges leveled against you?
903
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,995
Not before God.
904
00:45:05,036 --> 00:45:07,301
Can you explain why
you're innocent before God?
905
00:45:07,338 --> 00:45:10,797
Objection, this case is being judged
on the temporal plane, Your Honor.
906
00:45:10,841 --> 00:45:12,104
Sustained.
907
00:45:12,143 --> 00:45:14,135
How dare you object, Mr. Stone?
908
00:45:14,178 --> 00:45:16,738
We've done our homework.
You were baptized.
909
00:45:16,781 --> 00:45:20,582
You go to communion, and you
prosecute me?! Judge: That's enough.
910
00:45:20,618 --> 00:45:23,383
All the abortions in that clinic
are murder, and you know it.
911
00:45:23,421 --> 00:45:25,652
Your Honor? It must stop!
912
00:45:25,690 --> 00:45:27,921
Mary Donovan's death was tragic,
913
00:45:27,959 --> 00:45:31,862
But if it prevents one abortion,
the scales are balanced.
914
00:45:31,896 --> 00:45:34,092
Abortion must end!
915
00:45:34,131 --> 00:45:36,600
Ms. Schwimmer, that
will be all! Are we a nation
916
00:45:36,634 --> 00:45:39,502
who can tolerate the
abortionist sticking his hand
917
00:45:39,537 --> 00:45:42,132
in a mother's womb and
strangling God's creation?
918
00:45:42,173 --> 00:45:44,506
The court officer will
remove Ms. Schwimmer!
919
00:45:44,542 --> 00:45:47,842
Your Honor, I have only one
question to ask of the defendant.
920
00:45:47,878 --> 00:45:49,642
Which is?
921
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:53,173
If abortion is murder, no matter
how you feel about Mary Donovan,
922
00:45:53,217 --> 00:45:56,051
aren't you guilty of the
murder of her unborn child?
923
00:46:14,071 --> 00:46:16,233
Judge: On the first
count in the indictment,
924
00:46:16,274 --> 00:46:18,937
the charge of conspiracy
in the second degree,
925
00:46:18,976 --> 00:46:20,069
how do you find?
926
00:46:20,111 --> 00:46:22,637
We find the defendant guilty.
927
00:46:24,548 --> 00:46:25,914
On the second count,
928
00:46:25,950 --> 00:46:28,818
the charge of arson
in the second degree,
929
00:46:28,853 --> 00:46:29,980
how do you find?
930
00:46:30,021 --> 00:46:32,513
We find the defendant guilty.
931
00:46:33,824 --> 00:46:36,817
The third count, murder
in the second degree,
932
00:46:36,861 --> 00:46:40,161
how do you find? We
find the defendant guilty.
933
00:46:47,171 --> 00:46:48,537
Stone: What do we say to people
934
00:46:48,572 --> 00:46:51,701
who know she committed a criminal
act, but don't think she's a criminal?
935
00:46:51,742 --> 00:46:54,678
That's easy. A criminal is someone
who commits a criminal act...
936
00:46:54,712 --> 00:46:56,374
For any reason.
937
00:46:56,414 --> 00:46:59,213
But up until Roe v. Wade, the
abortionists were the criminals.
938
00:46:59,250 --> 00:47:01,695
If the law hadn't changed, there
never would have been a bombing.
939
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:03,779
If the law hadn't
changed, I'd be a slave.
940
00:47:03,821 --> 00:47:05,653
You can't turn back the clock.70708
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