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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1160 01:03:35,144 --> 01:03:37,021 ♪ Ah... ♪ 1161 01:03:37,104 --> 01:03:40,775 [older Dylan] Seeing Ginsberg was like going to see the Oracle of Delphi. 1162 01:03:41,234 --> 01:03:44,195 He didn't care about material wealth or political power. 1163 01:03:44,779 --> 01:03:46,447 He was his own kind of king. 1164 01:03:48,157 --> 01:03:50,409 But... he wanted to play music. 1165 01:03:52,870 --> 01:03:55,206 He had already achieved what any national poet 1166 01:03:55,289 --> 01:03:56,541 could hope to achieve. 1167 01:03:56,624 --> 01:03:59,919 "I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness." 1168 01:04:00,586 --> 01:04:02,129 Very few poets have done that. 1169 01:04:02,964 --> 01:04:04,215 Robert Frost, maybe. 1170 01:04:04,841 --> 01:04:07,301 "Promises to keep, miles to go before I sleep." 1171 01:04:07,802 --> 01:04:10,221 Whitman said, "I am large, I contain multitudes." 1172 01:04:10,304 --> 01:04:12,139 We still remember those lines today. 1173 01:04:13,140 --> 01:04:16,394 Today's poets don't reach into the public consciousness that way. 1174 01:04:17,395 --> 01:04:20,523 So it was remarkable that Allen had actually broken through. 1175 01:04:21,274 --> 01:04:25,736 Nowadays, lines that people remember are lines from songs, lyrics from songs... 1176 01:04:27,071 --> 01:04:29,115 "Your cheatin' heart will make you weep." 1177 01:04:29,198 --> 01:04:32,034 "Don't change your hair for me, not if you care for me." 1178 01:04:32,827 --> 01:04:35,580 "I'm in the mood for love." "What a difference a day makes." 1179 01:04:35,663 --> 01:04:36,706 "Ain't misbehavin'." 1180 01:04:37,039 --> 01:04:40,459 Allen wanted his lines to be remembered like that, 1181 01:04:41,085 --> 01:04:42,753 but he was a poet. 1182 01:04:43,504 --> 01:04:44,881 He wasn't a songwriter. 1183 01:04:46,841 --> 01:04:50,803 [Ginsberg] By 1970 through 1975, 1184 01:04:50,970 --> 01:04:54,599 all of the, uh, heroes of song and poetry 1185 01:04:55,558 --> 01:04:57,059 were out on their own, 1186 01:04:57,560 --> 01:04:58,477 uh... 1187 01:04:59,854 --> 01:05:01,522 in the solitude... 1188 01:05:02,481 --> 01:05:03,357 doing their art. 1189 01:05:05,234 --> 01:05:08,029 The people that were going to die or drink themselves to death, 1190 01:05:08,112 --> 01:05:10,531 as many great artists did, or get strung out... 1191 01:05:11,198 --> 01:05:15,161 uh, went down to... uh... 1192 01:05:16,162 --> 01:05:18,789 She'ol, as Kerouac did, 1193 01:05:19,373 --> 01:05:22,627 105 miles from this ocean, buried in Lowell. 1194 01:05:23,711 --> 01:05:26,797 But that's where I got all my poetry, out of Mexico City Blues. 1195 01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:28,799 You ever read this? 1196 01:05:29,050 --> 01:05:30,384 -Sure. -This book... 1197 01:05:30,843 --> 01:05:33,387 -This is my favorite. -Yeah, I-- I read this. Uh... 1198 01:05:34,764 --> 01:05:37,433 My good friend Dave Whitaker gave me a copy of this book. 1199 01:05:37,516 --> 01:05:40,853 -When? -Uh, in Minneapolis in 1959. 1200 01:05:40,937 --> 01:05:41,771 Uh-huh. 1201 01:05:42,438 --> 01:05:45,608 I remember when David gave me this book, it just blew a hole in my mind. 1202 01:05:45,942 --> 01:05:46,776 Really? 1203 01:05:47,777 --> 01:05:50,071 Yeah. "What's been buried in the grave? 1204 01:05:50,154 --> 01:05:50,988 Dust. 1205 01:05:51,155 --> 01:05:52,281 -Perfect--" -"Perfect dust." 1206 01:05:52,365 --> 01:05:54,659 "Perfect dust in time." [chuckles] 1207 01:05:55,409 --> 01:05:57,036 He wrote a lot about being dead. 1208 01:05:58,204 --> 01:06:00,790 "Once I went to a movie At midnight, 1940, 1209 01:06:00,873 --> 01:06:02,375 Mice and Men, the name of it. 1210 01:06:02,458 --> 01:06:05,419 The Red Block Boxcars Rolling by (on the Screen) 1211 01:06:05,878 --> 01:06:06,712 Yessir 1212 01:06:06,796 --> 01:06:08,673 life finally gets tired of living - 1213 01:06:09,215 --> 01:06:11,759 On both occasions I had wild Face looking into lights 1214 01:06:11,842 --> 01:06:13,219 Of streets where phantoms 1215 01:06:13,302 --> 01:06:16,180 Hastened out of sight Into Memorial cello time." 1216 01:06:16,263 --> 01:06:17,848 -[Dylan] Oh, yeah. -[Ginsberg chuckles] 1217 01:06:17,932 --> 01:06:20,267 [Dylan] Here's one. "Dead and don't know it, 1218 01:06:20,351 --> 01:06:21,394 Living and do. 1219 01:06:21,811 --> 01:06:23,562 The living have a dead idea. 1220 01:06:24,105 --> 01:06:25,856 A person is a living idea; 1221 01:06:25,982 --> 01:06:27,775 after death, a dead idea. 1222 01:06:27,858 --> 01:06:29,402 When rock becomes air..." 1223 01:06:29,485 --> 01:06:30,569 [both] "I will be there." 1224 01:06:30,653 --> 01:06:31,487 [both laugh] 1225 01:06:31,570 --> 01:06:33,280 -He's here. -Yeah, this is where he is. 1226 01:06:33,364 --> 01:06:35,700 -Yeah. So rock has become air. -Yeah. 1227 01:06:38,744 --> 01:06:40,705 -Let's sit down a minute, relax. -Well, this is... 1228 01:06:41,330 --> 01:06:44,834 -Yes, it's not every day... -[older Dylan] Kerouac, he honored life. 1229 01:06:45,710 --> 01:06:48,963 I had to read everything again, that Kerouac wrote. 1230 01:06:49,046 --> 01:06:51,882 Not that I did, but I thought about it differently. 1231 01:06:52,425 --> 01:06:54,301 All of a sudden, On the Road, 1232 01:06:55,761 --> 01:06:57,680 he was talking about the road of life. 1233 01:06:58,180 --> 01:07:00,182 [light melody playing] 1234 01:07:07,231 --> 01:07:09,025 [Ginsberg] "Strange now to think of you, 1235 01:07:09,108 --> 01:07:11,235 gone without corsets and eyes, 1236 01:07:11,318 --> 01:07:13,112 while I walk on the sunny pavement 1237 01:07:13,195 --> 01:07:14,405 of Greenwich Village, 1238 01:07:15,197 --> 01:07:16,782 downtown Manhattan, 1239 01:07:17,033 --> 01:07:18,242 clear winter noon, 1240 01:07:18,576 --> 01:07:20,578 and I've been up all night talking, 1241 01:07:20,661 --> 01:07:21,662 talking, 1242 01:07:21,746 --> 01:07:23,247 reading the Kaddish aloud, 1243 01:07:23,664 --> 01:07:25,166 listening to Ray Charles 1244 01:07:25,249 --> 01:07:27,752 blues shout blind on the phonograph 1245 01:07:28,169 --> 01:07:29,962 The rhythm, the rhythm 1246 01:07:30,629 --> 01:07:32,798 and your memory in my head..." "like a poem in the dark-- 1247 01:07:32,965 --> 01:07:35,301 escaped back to Oblivion-- 1248 01:07:35,926 --> 01:07:37,178 No more to say, 1249 01:07:37,261 --> 01:07:40,723 and nothing to weep for but the Beings in the Dream, 1250 01:07:40,806 --> 01:07:42,516 trapped in its disappearance, 1251 01:07:43,017 --> 01:07:43,893 sighing, 1252 01:07:44,268 --> 01:07:45,227 screaming with it, 1253 01:07:45,603 --> 01:07:48,856 buying and selling pieces of phantom, 1254 01:07:49,065 --> 01:07:51,525 laughing and weeping over mahjong, 1255 01:07:51,776 --> 01:07:53,444 worshipping each other, 1256 01:07:53,611 --> 01:07:56,072 worshipping the God included in it all-- 1257 01:07:56,447 --> 01:07:58,908 longing or inevitability?-- 1258 01:07:59,116 --> 01:08:01,327 while it lasts, a Vision-- 1259 01:08:01,786 --> 01:08:05,164 Death, stay thy phantoms! 1260 01:08:05,748 --> 01:08:08,292 O mother what have I left out 1261 01:08:08,876 --> 01:08:11,420 O mother what have I forgotten 1262 01:08:11,796 --> 01:08:14,465 O mother farewell 1263 01:08:14,799 --> 01:08:16,801 with a long black shoe 1264 01:08:17,301 --> 01:08:19,720 farewell with Communist Party 1265 01:08:19,804 --> 01:08:21,305 and a broken stocking 1266 01:08:21,764 --> 01:08:23,933 farewell with six dark hairs 1267 01:08:24,016 --> 01:08:25,684 on the wen of your breast 1268 01:08:26,185 --> 01:08:28,562 farewell with your old dress 1269 01:08:28,646 --> 01:08:31,649 and a long black beard around the vagina 1270 01:08:32,066 --> 01:08:35,569 with your eyes with your eyes of Russia 1271 01:08:35,653 --> 01:08:37,822 with your eyes of no money 1272 01:08:37,947 --> 01:08:40,241 with your eyes of Aunt Elanor 1273 01:08:40,533 --> 01:08:42,326 with your eyes of shock 1274 01:08:42,618 --> 01:08:44,829 with your eyes of lobotomy 1275 01:08:45,079 --> 01:08:49,583 with your eyes of divorce with your eyes of stroke 1276 01:08:49,792 --> 01:08:52,002 with your eyes alone 1277 01:08:52,169 --> 01:08:53,337 with your eyes 1278 01:08:53,754 --> 01:08:54,964 with your eyes 1279 01:08:55,214 --> 01:08:57,883 with your death full of flowers." 1280 01:08:59,552 --> 01:09:02,179 [applause] 1281 01:09:05,516 --> 01:09:07,810 ["A Simple Twist of Fate" playing] 1282 01:09:20,406 --> 01:09:23,701 ♪ She walks alone Through the city blocks ♪ 1283 01:09:24,493 --> 01:09:27,705 ♪ Oh, hears the tickin' of the clocks ♪ 1284 01:09:29,039 --> 01:09:31,625 ♪ Hunts for her by the waterfront docks ♪ 1285 01:09:31,834 --> 01:09:34,670 ♪ Where the sailors all come in ♪ 1286 01:09:35,838 --> 01:09:38,340 ♪ Maybe he'll see her there once again ♪ 1287 01:09:39,592 --> 01:09:42,803 ♪ How long must he wait? ♪ 1288 01:09:44,638 --> 01:09:48,976 ♪ One more time For a simple twist of fate ♪ 1289 01:09:52,021 --> 01:09:53,981 [Sloman on phone] Tell me a bit about the spirit of the tour. 1290 01:09:54,064 --> 01:09:56,442 -'Cause you're doing new songs, right? -[Dylan on phone] Yeah. 1291 01:09:56,525 --> 01:09:59,528 [Sloman] And a lot of people in the audience expected the old songs. 1292 01:09:59,612 --> 01:10:01,405 [Dylan] But Ratso, you know, that's the first-- 1293 01:10:01,488 --> 01:10:03,324 -one of the first rules-- -[Sloman] What's that? 1294 01:10:03,407 --> 01:10:04,783 [Dylan] The expectations, you know? 1295 01:10:04,867 --> 01:10:07,369 If you have big expectations, you're gonna be let down. 1296 01:10:07,453 --> 01:10:09,371 You can't have any expectations. 1297 01:10:09,455 --> 01:10:11,123 [Sloman] But people do have preconceptions. 1298 01:10:11,207 --> 01:10:13,918 [Dylan] That's their problem, Ratso. That's their own problem. 1299 01:10:14,001 --> 01:10:16,587 We can't account for everybody who's walking around, you know? 1300 01:10:16,670 --> 01:10:18,088 Like having expectations. 1301 01:10:18,172 --> 01:10:19,590 I mean, who gives a shit? 1302 01:10:19,673 --> 01:10:20,841 [Sloman] Yeah. 1303 01:10:20,925 --> 01:10:24,094 ♪ They sat together in the park ♪ 1304 01:10:24,178 --> 01:10:25,054 [audience cheers] 1305 01:10:25,137 --> 01:10:27,723 ♪ As the evening sky got dark ♪ 1306 01:10:28,933 --> 01:10:31,477 ♪ She looked at him and he felt a spark ♪ 1307 01:10:32,853 --> 01:10:35,356 ♪ Tingle to his bones ♪ 1308 01:10:36,774 --> 01:10:39,360 ♪ 'Twas then he felt alone ♪ 1309 01:10:40,611 --> 01:10:43,739 ♪ And he wished he'd gone straight ♪ 1310 01:10:44,990 --> 01:10:49,828 ♪ And watched out For a simple twist of fate ♪ 1311 01:10:53,874 --> 01:10:56,919 ♪ They walked along by the old canal ♪ 1312 01:10:57,962 --> 01:11:00,714 ♪ A little confused, I remember well ♪ 1313 01:11:02,091 --> 01:11:04,885 ♪ And stopped into a strange hotel ♪ 1314 01:11:05,469 --> 01:11:08,430 ♪ With a neon burnin' bright ♪ 1315 01:11:09,598 --> 01:11:12,601 ♪ He felt the heat of the night ♪ 1316 01:11:13,519 --> 01:11:17,731 ♪ Hit him like a freight train ♪ 1317 01:11:18,023 --> 01:11:22,778 ♪ Moving with a simple twist of fate ♪ 1318 01:11:26,907 --> 01:11:29,952 ♪ A saxophone someplace softly played ♪ 1319 01:11:30,869 --> 01:11:33,831 ♪ As she was walkin' on by the arcade ♪ 1320 01:11:34,999 --> 01:11:37,876 ♪ She heard the melody rise and fade ♪ 1321 01:11:38,585 --> 01:11:41,380 ♪ The sun was coming up ♪ 1322 01:11:42,214 --> 01:11:45,551 ♪ She dropped a coin into the cup ♪ 1323 01:11:46,343 --> 01:11:49,680 ♪ Of a blind man at the gate ♪ 1324 01:11:50,681 --> 01:11:55,686 ♪ And forgot about A simple twist of fate ♪ 1325 01:12:00,024 --> 01:12:03,110 ♪ He woke up, she was gone ♪ 1326 01:12:03,902 --> 01:12:06,739 ♪ He didn't see nothing but the dawn ♪ 1327 01:12:07,906 --> 01:12:11,076 ♪ He got out of bed And put his clothes back on ♪ 1328 01:12:12,161 --> 01:12:14,288 ♪ Pushed back the blinds ♪ 1329 01:12:15,247 --> 01:12:18,292 ♪ Found a note she'd left behind ♪ 1330 01:12:19,126 --> 01:12:22,629 ♪ To which he just could not relate ♪ 1331 01:12:24,214 --> 01:12:28,469 ♪ All about a simple twist of fate ♪ 1332 01:12:34,391 --> 01:12:37,853 ♪ He hears the ticking of the clocks ♪ 1333 01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:42,024 ♪ And walks alone Through the city blocks ♪ 1334 01:12:42,649 --> 01:12:45,861 ♪ Hunts her down by the waterfront docks ♪ 1335 01:12:45,944 --> 01:12:48,947 ♪ Where the sailors all roll in ♪ 1336 01:12:49,740 --> 01:12:52,993 ♪ Maybe he'll spot her once again ♪ 1337 01:12:53,494 --> 01:12:57,206 ♪ How long must he wait? ♪ 1338 01:12:58,791 --> 01:13:03,337 ♪ One more time For a simple twist of fate ♪ 1339 01:13:07,549 --> 01:13:10,177 ♪ People tell me it's a crime ♪ 1340 01:13:11,428 --> 01:13:14,640 ♪ To know too much for too long a time ♪ 1341 01:13:15,724 --> 01:13:18,977 ♪ She should've caught me in my prime ♪ 1342 01:13:19,728 --> 01:13:22,106 ♪ She would've stayed with me ♪ 1343 01:13:22,773 --> 01:13:26,026 ♪ Instead I'm going off to sea ♪ 1344 01:13:26,652 --> 01:13:30,531 ♪ And leaving me to meditate ♪ 1345 01:13:31,824 --> 01:13:37,079 ♪ Upon that simple twist of fate ♪ 1346 01:14:17,327 --> 01:14:18,912 [audience applauds] 1347 01:14:27,504 --> 01:14:30,924 [Nixon] I shall resign the presidency effective at noon tomorrow. 1348 01:14:31,008 --> 01:14:33,927 Vice President Ford will be sworn in as president 1349 01:14:34,428 --> 01:14:37,055 at that hour in this office. 1350 01:14:37,139 --> 01:14:40,851 [Dylan and Baez] ♪ I dreamed I saw Saint Augustine ♪ 1351 01:14:40,976 --> 01:14:43,896 ♪ Alive as you or me...♪ 1352 01:14:44,188 --> 01:14:47,274 [Gerald Ford] Thomas Jefferson said, "The people... 1353 01:14:48,108 --> 01:14:52,821 are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty." 1354 01:14:52,905 --> 01:14:56,867 [Dylan and Baez] ♪ With a blanket underneath his arm ♪ 1355 01:14:56,950 --> 01:14:58,994 ♪ And a coat of solid gold... ♪ 1356 01:14:59,077 --> 01:15:02,831 [Ford] Abraham Lincoln renewed this American article of faith 1357 01:15:02,915 --> 01:15:08,003 asking, "Is there any better way or equal hope in the world?" 1358 01:15:08,128 --> 01:15:09,129 [bodyguard] Go! 1359 01:15:09,213 --> 01:15:10,964 Everybody get out of the way, now! 1360 01:15:11,131 --> 01:15:11,965 Get down! 1361 01:15:12,341 --> 01:15:13,383 Get out of the way! 1362 01:15:13,967 --> 01:15:15,886 [inaudible] 1363 01:15:16,136 --> 01:15:19,389 ♪ Come out ye gifted kings and queens... ♪ 1364 01:15:19,473 --> 01:15:22,976 [Graham] We've got too many people who are knocking every institution, 1365 01:15:23,143 --> 01:15:25,521 including the Congress, the president, the flag, 1366 01:15:25,604 --> 01:15:26,438 everything. 1367 01:15:26,813 --> 01:15:28,398 I think it's time to stand up and say, 1368 01:15:28,482 --> 01:15:31,527 "Well, we believe in these institutions, and we believe in America." 1369 01:15:32,236 --> 01:15:34,154 And I think America ought to sing a little bit. 1370 01:15:34,238 --> 01:15:35,822 [Dylan and Baez] ♪ ...accordingly ♪ 1371 01:15:35,906 --> 01:15:40,786 ♪ And know you're not alone ♪ 1372 01:15:44,248 --> 01:15:46,792 [man] Now, we're talking about Bob Dylan the man, 1373 01:15:46,917 --> 01:15:49,836 that's who we're talking about, the message he preaches when he sings... 1374 01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:52,172 -You can't use microscopes on everything. -The happiness... 1375 01:15:52,256 --> 01:15:53,549 You're not using microscopes. 1376 01:15:53,632 --> 01:15:56,426 -You can't use a scalpel that way. -You're using the message. 1377 01:15:56,969 --> 01:15:58,971 I thought it was sort of depressing... 1378 01:15:59,555 --> 01:16:02,683 that people would stand in line for two days to see a man. 1379 01:16:02,766 --> 01:16:04,142 It just so-- shows... 1380 01:16:05,894 --> 01:16:08,564 they have that need for something or somebody to... 1381 01:16:10,816 --> 01:16:13,318 bring salvation or something. You know? 1382 01:16:13,986 --> 01:16:15,153 But I did it, too. 1383 01:16:15,237 --> 01:16:16,071 [both chuckle] 1384 01:16:16,196 --> 01:16:17,030 I don't know. 1385 01:16:17,406 --> 01:16:20,033 About five in the afternoon, the day before the show, right? 1386 01:16:20,117 --> 01:16:20,993 -Yeah. -You were there, 1387 01:16:21,076 --> 01:16:23,579 you'd been there for a couple of days, you hit on me right away. 1388 01:16:23,662 --> 01:16:25,205 You said you wanted this button, right? 1389 01:16:25,289 --> 01:16:26,957 Thought I was Dylan or some shit like that. 1390 01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:28,584 -Yeah, right. Mm-hmm. -Yeah. 1391 01:16:29,167 --> 01:16:31,336 [van Dorp] A lot of people think you are, Larry. 1392 01:16:31,753 --> 01:16:34,256 Well, it's pretty obvious. [laughs] 1393 01:16:34,339 --> 01:16:36,341 [man] Take your glasses off for a minute. 1394 01:16:37,467 --> 01:16:39,511 -I'm not him. -[man] Well, anyways... 1395 01:16:39,636 --> 01:16:42,806 [van Dorp] That little shit Ratso, he was the worst. 1396 01:16:42,889 --> 01:16:45,517 He dressed like Dylan, he tried to talk like Dylan, 1397 01:16:45,601 --> 01:16:47,561 always trying to ingratiate himself. 1398 01:16:47,644 --> 01:16:49,104 He thought he was Hunter Thompson 1399 01:16:49,187 --> 01:16:51,481 just because he was writing for Rolling Stone. 1400 01:16:51,565 --> 01:16:54,276 He didn't want anyone else with vision around. 1401 01:16:55,235 --> 01:16:57,279 [interviewer] Did he wind up causing problems for you? 1402 01:16:57,362 --> 01:16:58,363 Please. 1403 01:16:58,655 --> 01:17:01,450 Does the cockroach really cause problems for the house? 1404 01:17:01,700 --> 01:17:03,368 No, it's just a nuisance. 1405 01:17:03,702 --> 01:17:05,871 [older Dylan] Van Dorp was an unusual guy. 1406 01:17:06,455 --> 01:17:09,416 He's one of those kind of people who's trying to... just needs an enemy. 1407 01:17:09,499 --> 01:17:10,334 And... 1408 01:17:10,542 --> 01:17:13,420 uh, he was trying to make enemies where there weren't any, 1409 01:17:13,670 --> 01:17:16,256 and, uh, he-- he was-- 1410 01:17:16,340 --> 01:17:17,966 he was successful at that. 1411 01:17:20,052 --> 01:17:23,764 He-- He angered a lot-- lots of people, especially in catering. 1412 01:17:23,847 --> 01:17:26,975 He would eat two or three, uh, meals 1413 01:17:27,142 --> 01:17:30,437 that really... really were for somebody else. 1414 01:17:31,813 --> 01:17:34,441 So, he ate more than he was supposed to, 1415 01:17:35,025 --> 01:17:36,985 and I think-- and I think he... 1416 01:17:37,486 --> 01:17:38,779 [inhales sharply] 1417 01:17:39,529 --> 01:17:43,950 ...uh, I think he stuck his nose in places it might've should not have been. 1418 01:17:45,661 --> 01:17:47,496 He was also a very paranoid person. 1419 01:17:48,246 --> 01:17:50,540 Complained to people that his room was bugged. 1420 01:17:51,708 --> 01:17:54,961 Uh, which, you know, McGuinn was on that tour, 1421 01:17:55,170 --> 01:18:00,384 and McGuinn who at that point was into, uh, very sophisticated electronics. 1422 01:18:00,467 --> 01:18:02,469 So I'm not saying it wasn't bugged but... 1423 01:18:03,261 --> 01:18:05,430 but I'm not saying that it was bugged, 1424 01:18:05,514 --> 01:18:07,099 because I don't know that for a fact. 1425 01:18:07,182 --> 01:18:09,267 [man] All tickets are $8.50 a ticket. 1426 01:18:10,018 --> 01:18:11,937 [interviewer] What were the audiences like... 1427 01:18:12,020 --> 01:18:13,105 that you played to? 1428 01:18:15,357 --> 01:18:17,609 Well, they would all be... 1429 01:18:18,652 --> 01:18:19,820 hysterically happy. 1430 01:18:20,404 --> 01:18:22,155 So, I mean, you can't really judge much 1431 01:18:22,239 --> 01:18:24,282 from saying, "What would the audiences be like?" 1432 01:18:24,366 --> 01:18:27,536 They would all be people who would've slit each other's throats to get there. 1433 01:18:29,121 --> 01:18:31,123 [audience applauds] 1434 01:18:32,624 --> 01:18:35,877 -[man shouts] What a lovely couple! -[audience laughs and claps] 1435 01:18:38,422 --> 01:18:41,466 -Don't make myths. A couple of what? -A couple of what? 1436 01:18:43,093 --> 01:18:45,846 ["I Shall Be Released" playing] 1437 01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:50,308 [laughs] 1438 01:18:52,519 --> 01:18:57,190 ♪ They say ev'rything can be replaced ♪ 1439 01:19:00,444 --> 01:19:04,322 ♪ That ev'ry distance is not near ♪ 1440 01:19:07,701 --> 01:19:11,872 ♪ So I remember ev'ry face ♪ 1441 01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:19,045 ♪ Of ev'ry man who put me here ♪ 1442 01:19:19,588 --> 01:19:21,757 [older Dylan] Joan Baez and me could sing anything. 1443 01:19:22,632 --> 01:19:24,551 We could sing together in our sleep. 1444 01:19:25,427 --> 01:19:26,553 As a matter of fact, 1445 01:19:27,095 --> 01:19:29,931 lot of times when I was sleeping, I'd hear her voice. 1446 01:19:32,142 --> 01:19:35,896 ♪ Yonder down here in this lonely crowd ♪ 1447 01:19:39,649 --> 01:19:43,904 ♪ Is a man who swears he's not to blame ♪ 1448 01:19:47,491 --> 01:19:51,953 ♪ All day long I hear him shouting loud ♪ 1449 01:19:54,790 --> 01:19:59,044 ♪ Crying out that he been framed ♪ 1450 01:20:01,630 --> 01:20:03,006 ♪ I see my light... ♪ 1451 01:20:03,131 --> 01:20:05,133 [older Dylan] Joan was so courageous. 1452 01:20:06,092 --> 01:20:07,010 Self-disciplined. 1453 01:20:08,011 --> 01:20:11,264 When I first met her, it seemed like she'd come down to Earth from a meteorite. 1454 01:20:11,890 --> 01:20:12,849 And she's never changed. 1455 01:20:12,933 --> 01:20:15,852 She always seems like she's just come down from a meteorite. 1456 01:20:16,311 --> 01:20:18,313 [audience cheering and applauding] 1457 01:20:20,482 --> 01:20:23,318 [interviewer] You had no reservations about going on tour? 1458 01:20:24,152 --> 01:20:24,986 Well... 1459 01:20:25,654 --> 01:20:27,030 [sighs] Sure. 1460 01:20:27,781 --> 01:20:28,615 I mean... 1461 01:20:29,533 --> 01:20:34,579 I think it probably sounded like... fun, but I also had experienced Dylan, 1462 01:20:34,913 --> 01:20:38,500 and, you know, how much fun that can be on any tour or not. [chuckles] 1463 01:20:38,959 --> 01:20:39,876 So, um... 1464 01:20:40,418 --> 01:20:43,630 But I think, know-- knowing that it was gonna be a lot of people, 1465 01:20:43,713 --> 01:20:46,842 and I was gonna have my own family with me... 1466 01:20:47,092 --> 01:20:49,094 [up-tempo music playing] 1467 01:20:51,638 --> 01:20:54,391 [Baez] It sounded exciting, you know. 1468 01:21:04,401 --> 01:21:06,027 I had my own freedom... 1469 01:21:06,111 --> 01:21:09,865 to sing and dance in a way that I didn't do on my own stage. 1470 01:21:16,830 --> 01:21:18,707 [older Dylan] Maybe there wasn't enough for her to do 1471 01:21:18,790 --> 01:21:20,417 and she'd begin to go a little stir-crazy. 1472 01:21:20,500 --> 01:21:21,376 Started doing, uh... 1473 01:21:21,710 --> 01:21:25,422 boogaloo and hanging out with people maybe she shouldn't be hanging out with, 1474 01:21:25,505 --> 01:21:26,506 and, um... 1475 01:21:27,299 --> 01:21:28,258 Ugh. 1476 01:21:29,593 --> 01:21:30,927 I don't know what happened. 1477 01:21:32,387 --> 01:21:34,890 Boy, sitting right next to Bob Dylan, man. Whew. 1478 01:21:34,973 --> 01:21:37,017 [man] I got a light if you got a smoke. 1479 01:21:37,726 --> 01:21:40,103 [Baez] One time, I got all dressed up as Bob, 1480 01:21:40,186 --> 01:21:41,855 which I would do periodically. 1481 01:21:42,063 --> 01:21:45,567 I used to put these little beard markings all over and have a mustache on. 1482 01:21:45,901 --> 01:21:48,028 [laughing] And then I'd put his hat on 1483 01:21:48,570 --> 01:21:49,863 and some whiteface. 1484 01:21:50,155 --> 01:21:52,240 ♪ All the time you dress so fine ♪ 1485 01:21:53,617 --> 01:21:56,745 ♪ Threw the bums a dime in your prime... ♪ 1486 01:21:56,828 --> 01:21:59,623 [Baez] I walked over with nobody really paying attention, 1487 01:21:59,706 --> 01:22:01,166 and I'd be Bob. 1488 01:22:01,666 --> 01:22:05,003 And there was this table of, like, food and catering and coffee, 1489 01:22:05,337 --> 01:22:07,213 and Louie was there, and I said... 1490 01:22:07,297 --> 01:22:09,215 [imitating Dylan] "Handsome, give me some coffee." 1491 01:22:09,966 --> 01:22:12,552 [in normal voice] Instantly, people got me some coffee like that. 1492 01:22:13,136 --> 01:22:16,014 "D'you want this? D'you want this? You want milk? Do you want sugar?" 1493 01:22:16,097 --> 01:22:18,934 And I just had a cigarette in my hand, going like that, 1494 01:22:19,017 --> 01:22:21,019 and they treated me the way they treat Bob. 1495 01:22:21,102 --> 01:22:23,063 "D'you want this? D'you want that? What can we do?" 1496 01:22:23,146 --> 01:22:24,272 It was amazing. 1497 01:22:24,981 --> 01:22:27,859 It was amazing until finally I said something like, 1498 01:22:27,943 --> 01:22:31,196 "Oh, for Christ sake, Louie." [gasps] And then he realized. 1499 01:22:31,279 --> 01:22:34,366 Oh, yeah, and I had a little wig on with my hair coming out underneath it. 1500 01:22:34,658 --> 01:22:36,910 [clicks tongue] Terrible. 1501 01:22:36,993 --> 01:22:38,203 [laughs] 1502 01:22:40,330 --> 01:22:43,625 [man] It's like the court of Henry VIII or something, you know? 1503 01:22:43,833 --> 01:22:46,836 Who's Anne Boleyn, you know? Which one is gonna get the ax, you know? 1504 01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:50,465 [laughs] You know what I mean? You know, there's that kind of dynamic. 1505 01:22:50,548 --> 01:22:52,884 And people are maneuvering to get closer, 1506 01:22:52,968 --> 01:22:55,804 and then there are the people who are using you to maneuver. 1507 01:22:56,137 --> 01:22:58,974 David Mansfield wanted to sing a song with me, uh... 1508 01:22:59,182 --> 01:23:00,934 Ugh. God. 1509 01:23:01,226 --> 01:23:03,687 That, uh, a drummer did. 1510 01:23:03,812 --> 01:23:06,022 I didn't see what the point of it all was. 1511 01:23:07,691 --> 01:23:11,069 -[van Dorp] What does makeup do for you? -I don't know. 1512 01:23:11,152 --> 01:23:13,780 Just hides, you know, the ugliness a little bit. 1513 01:23:16,032 --> 01:23:19,828 [woman] Everyone, of course, you know, wanted their shot, 1514 01:23:19,911 --> 01:23:21,454 wanted their time in the sun. 1515 01:23:22,330 --> 01:23:24,582 But we all know that, you know, you have to... 1516 01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:26,543 give for the good of the show. 1517 01:23:26,668 --> 01:23:28,753 And it was such an honor to be there, 1518 01:23:29,838 --> 01:23:31,297 so that was no problem. 1519 01:23:32,215 --> 01:23:34,217 [indistinct chatter] 1520 01:23:36,094 --> 01:23:38,680 [interviewer] Who were the people you were closest with on the tour? 1521 01:23:38,763 --> 01:23:41,558 [Blakley] I know this sounds funny, but I felt close to Bob. 1522 01:23:42,058 --> 01:23:45,145 I just always felt close to him from the moment I met him. 1523 01:23:45,353 --> 01:23:48,273 Um, I'm sure many people that feel that way. 1524 01:23:49,107 --> 01:23:50,108 Um... 1525 01:23:50,942 --> 01:23:54,070 I know Mick Ronson told me, however, when I said, um... 1526 01:23:54,988 --> 01:23:57,282 you know, "Don't you love Bob?" and he said, "I don't know. 1527 01:23:57,365 --> 01:23:58,616 He's never spoken to me." 1528 01:24:00,118 --> 01:24:03,371 Um, and then once we were in Massachusetts, 1529 01:24:03,913 --> 01:24:05,540 and people were about to arrive. 1530 01:24:05,623 --> 01:24:08,501 I don't know who they were, but not our little group. 1531 01:24:09,002 --> 01:24:12,380 Bob and I were alone in the basement, and Bob said, "Ronee, help." 1532 01:24:12,714 --> 01:24:13,923 And I said, "Help what?" 1533 01:24:15,175 --> 01:24:19,137 And-- And I felt so bad about that afterwards because I didn't mean to be... 1534 01:24:19,846 --> 01:24:23,850 cruel or thoughtless to Bob, but I always thought, you know, 1535 01:24:23,933 --> 01:24:25,935 I had to treat him just like a regular person 1536 01:24:26,019 --> 01:24:27,896 if I were going to be friends with him. 1537 01:24:29,814 --> 01:24:33,777 But later on, I understood a little more what he might be asking help for. 1538 01:24:34,027 --> 01:24:35,361 [interviewer] What was he asking help for? 1539 01:24:35,445 --> 01:24:37,280 I think the onslaught of strangers. 1540 01:24:37,363 --> 01:24:39,074 [children playing] 1541 01:24:39,157 --> 01:24:41,076 [boy] Hello, take my picture, please! 1542 01:24:41,493 --> 01:24:42,577 [Dylan] Hiya, man. 1543 01:24:47,957 --> 01:24:52,796 [Stone] I was in the park with another one of my modeling jobs. 1544 01:24:53,421 --> 01:24:55,423 Of course, the whole park is full of everybody doing 1545 01:24:55,507 --> 01:24:59,511 whatever they're doing, and suddenly I hear, "Hey, Kiss," 1546 01:24:59,928 --> 01:25:01,888 and I'm just, of course, mortified. 1547 01:25:01,971 --> 01:25:03,389 [laughing] And then I realize... 1548 01:25:03,973 --> 01:25:05,350 that it's him. 1549 01:25:05,767 --> 01:25:08,436 So, of course, I'm even more mortified. 1550 01:25:09,938 --> 01:25:12,065 [older Dylan] I think I met her with her mother. 1551 01:25:12,190 --> 01:25:13,316 She was a nice girl. 1552 01:25:13,608 --> 01:25:14,442 Uh... 1553 01:25:15,527 --> 01:25:17,278 She was so young, anyway, you know. 1554 01:25:18,822 --> 01:25:20,323 But she seemed old for her age. 1555 01:25:22,575 --> 01:25:24,869 [Stone] Everybody wants to be a movie star... 1556 01:25:25,036 --> 01:25:25,912 don't they? 1557 01:25:26,955 --> 01:25:29,749 But, you know, when you live in the middle of nowhere, 1558 01:25:29,833 --> 01:25:32,544 when you tell somebody you wanna be a movie star, they think you're... 1559 01:25:33,294 --> 01:25:34,129 insane. 1560 01:25:36,005 --> 01:25:38,133 [older Dylan] She, uh, used to tell me, 1561 01:25:38,216 --> 01:25:40,718 uh, someday she's going to be a famous actress. 1562 01:25:41,511 --> 01:25:42,470 Uh, okay. 1563 01:25:43,263 --> 01:25:45,807 A couple of days later he said, um... 1564 01:25:47,183 --> 01:25:48,268 "You know, hey... 1565 01:25:49,686 --> 01:25:53,439 how about if you just come on the road with us?" 1566 01:25:55,275 --> 01:25:58,319 And I thought, "And do what?" 1567 01:25:58,736 --> 01:26:00,738 [crowd cheering] 1568 01:26:01,030 --> 01:26:03,658 [Stone] "You know, you could help out with the costumes 1569 01:26:03,741 --> 01:26:06,369 and help out backstage and stuff." 1570 01:26:07,453 --> 01:26:10,123 -[man shouts] "Just Like a Woman." -What? 1571 01:26:10,540 --> 01:26:12,750 -"Just Like a Woman"? -[woman] Yeah! 1572 01:26:12,834 --> 01:26:15,170 -Do we know that song? -[man] I don't know, we could fake it. 1573 01:26:15,378 --> 01:26:17,422 [Stone] It was one of the first shows. 1574 01:26:18,256 --> 01:26:20,717 -I was backstage. -[Dylan] ...we'll try it. 1575 01:26:21,050 --> 01:26:23,261 [Stone] Joan Baez had asked me to iron her shirt. 1576 01:26:24,387 --> 01:26:27,682 A second later I hear, "Hey... Sharon." 1577 01:26:28,766 --> 01:26:32,854 And there was this, um, really decrepit old piano 1578 01:26:32,937 --> 01:26:37,650 shoved off to the side, and Bob was kinda hunched over it. 1579 01:26:37,942 --> 01:26:40,069 And he gives me that-- that look. 1580 01:26:41,613 --> 01:26:44,324 He's like, "I wrote a song about you." 1581 01:26:44,824 --> 01:26:49,746 ♪ Nobody feels any pain ♪ 1582 01:26:52,248 --> 01:26:57,003 ♪ Tonight as I stand inside the rain ♪ 1583 01:26:58,254 --> 01:27:00,131 [Stone] And then he gets to the line... 1584 01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:06,179 ♪ And she makes love just like a woman ♪ 1585 01:27:08,014 --> 01:27:10,141 ♪ But she breaks ♪ 1586 01:27:10,767 --> 01:27:16,439 ♪ Just like a little girl ♪ 1587 01:27:18,608 --> 01:27:23,738 I just broke out crying. You know? Full-on tears. [laughs] 1588 01:27:23,947 --> 01:27:26,991 I get-- I think T Bone's the one who told me that the song was... 1589 01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:29,619 ten years old. [laughs] 1590 01:27:29,953 --> 01:27:31,287 [man shouts] "Just Like a Woman." 1591 01:27:31,371 --> 01:27:33,289 -[woman] Yeah! -[audience cheers] 1592 01:27:33,748 --> 01:27:35,083 [Dylan] What's just like a woman? 1593 01:27:35,375 --> 01:27:36,626 What's just like a woman? 1594 01:27:36,751 --> 01:27:39,379 -[audience laughs] -[Dylan] Nothin' like a woman. 1595 01:27:39,504 --> 01:27:41,005 [strums guitar] 1596 01:27:45,510 --> 01:27:46,970 [man] Do a protest song! 1597 01:27:47,262 --> 01:27:48,554 [audience laughs] 1598 01:27:51,933 --> 01:27:53,393 Yeah, here's the one for you. 1599 01:27:53,476 --> 01:27:55,395 ["Oh, Sister" playing] 1600 01:27:55,478 --> 01:27:57,480 [audience cheering] 1601 01:28:19,252 --> 01:28:24,257 ♪ Oh, sister, when I come To lie in your arms ♪ 1602 01:28:26,426 --> 01:28:31,055 ♪ You should not treat me Like a stranger ♪ 1603 01:28:33,599 --> 01:28:39,439 ♪ Our Father would not like The way that you act ♪ 1604 01:28:40,732 --> 01:28:45,778 ♪ And you must realize the danger ♪ 1605 01:29:16,601 --> 01:29:21,356 ♪ Oh, sister, am I not a brother to you ♪ 1606 01:29:23,733 --> 01:29:29,072 ♪ And one deserving of affection? ♪ 1607 01:29:31,032 --> 01:29:36,371 ♪ And is our purpose not the same On this earth ♪ 1608 01:29:38,122 --> 01:29:43,169 ♪ To love and follow His direction? ♪ 1609 01:30:13,491 --> 01:30:15,952 ♪ We grew up together ♪ 1610 01:30:16,244 --> 01:30:19,205 ♪ From the cradle to the grave ♪ 1611 01:30:20,289 --> 01:30:22,959 ♪ We died and were reborn ♪ 1612 01:30:23,167 --> 01:30:30,133 ♪ And then mysteriously saved ♪ 1613 01:30:31,259 --> 01:30:32,510 [audience whoops] 1614 01:30:33,052 --> 01:30:34,220 [Dylan clears throat] 1615 01:30:35,972 --> 01:30:41,185 ♪ Oh, sister, when I come To knock on your door ♪ 1616 01:30:42,937 --> 01:30:48,025 ♪ Don't turn away, you'll create sorrow ♪ 1617 01:30:49,944 --> 01:30:55,241 ♪ Time is an ocean But it ends at the shore ♪ 1618 01:30:56,993 --> 01:31:01,622 ♪ You may not see me tomorrow ♪ 1619 01:31:31,944 --> 01:31:34,530 [audience applauds] 1620 01:31:40,786 --> 01:31:42,830 [man shouts] Bob Dylan for president! 1621 01:31:42,914 --> 01:31:45,166 -[Dylan laughs] -[audience cheers and applauds] 1622 01:31:45,500 --> 01:31:47,084 [Dylan] President of what? 1623 01:31:49,587 --> 01:31:52,131 [interviewer] Was he in a special mode of singing at that time? 1624 01:31:52,215 --> 01:31:54,175 Was he different than you'd seen him before? 1625 01:31:54,258 --> 01:31:56,385 It was-- There was a Rolling Thunder energy. 1626 01:31:57,053 --> 01:32:00,223 That was his invention, you know, and all these people showed up. 1627 01:32:00,848 --> 01:32:01,724 So, yeah. 1628 01:32:05,186 --> 01:32:07,647 -What do you got, Larry? -[Sloman] The tour was very open-ended, 1629 01:32:07,730 --> 01:32:10,066 so whatever city they went to, 1630 01:32:10,358 --> 01:32:12,485 if there was a local friend and musician, 1631 01:32:12,777 --> 01:32:14,820 there would be a slot for them to come up and play. 1632 01:32:14,904 --> 01:32:17,573 For example, uh, in Connecticut, Joni Mitchell... 1633 01:32:18,157 --> 01:32:20,076 came up, did a couple of songs, 1634 01:32:20,368 --> 01:32:22,870 and loved it so much that she stayed on for the rest of the tour. 1635 01:32:22,954 --> 01:32:25,289 She just became part of the... this experience. 1636 01:32:25,414 --> 01:32:28,125 -[train rumbling] -[indistinct chatter] 1637 01:32:30,753 --> 01:32:32,880 [van Dorp] How did you two end up on the road? 1638 01:32:32,964 --> 01:32:34,423 -I don't know-- -I came through Allen. 1639 01:32:34,507 --> 01:32:36,133 She came through Allen Ginsberg. 1640 01:32:36,467 --> 01:32:39,428 Um... I had finished a project and... 1641 01:32:40,137 --> 01:32:40,972 was, you know, 1642 01:32:41,055 --> 01:32:42,765 in a kind of a postnatal state 1643 01:32:42,848 --> 01:32:45,560 and wanted to come and see a concert, 1644 01:32:45,643 --> 01:32:48,312 and, uh, got sucked into it. 1645 01:32:48,396 --> 01:32:50,982 You know, just shelved everything that... 1646 01:32:51,524 --> 01:32:54,652 Everything else seemed, uh, minorly important 1647 01:32:54,735 --> 01:32:56,988 compared to this, like, as an experience, 1648 01:32:57,071 --> 01:33:01,033 and an experiment in communal existence. You know? 1649 01:33:01,909 --> 01:33:02,952 What do you think? 1650 01:33:03,035 --> 01:33:05,454 I think you've gotta come on the stage right now. 1651 01:33:05,538 --> 01:33:06,956 [Mitchell] Okay, I'm coming. 1652 01:33:08,374 --> 01:33:11,252 [singers intoning] ♪ Ah ♪ 1653 01:33:14,297 --> 01:33:17,967 [all harmonizing] 1654 01:33:21,846 --> 01:33:24,724 [Waldman] Some days, I'd see it as this kind of allegorical thing 1655 01:33:24,807 --> 01:33:29,228 or as this group of pilgrims on a kind of journey and quest. 1656 01:33:29,312 --> 01:33:32,857 Of course, you-- you know, you-- the deal is you find yourself back home, 1657 01:33:32,940 --> 01:33:34,900 but you have to take this whole journey. 1658 01:33:35,443 --> 01:33:38,487 And then when you open it up to, you know, here you are in America, 1659 01:33:38,571 --> 01:33:41,824 and-- and all the things that Bob seemed to care about 1660 01:33:41,907 --> 01:33:44,493 in terms of these other... the-- the folk culture 1661 01:33:44,577 --> 01:33:46,245 is getting thrown in there. 1662 01:33:46,996 --> 01:33:48,331 [indistinct cheering] 1663 01:33:48,497 --> 01:33:50,708 [Waldman] And that's another weave. This sort of... 1664 01:33:50,791 --> 01:33:54,211 This-- This American yearning for, I don't know, redemption. 1665 01:33:54,503 --> 01:33:55,755 [indistinct shouting] 1666 01:33:55,838 --> 01:34:00,092 ♪ ...circle be unbroken ♪ 1667 01:34:00,176 --> 01:34:04,555 ♪ By and by, Lord, by and by ♪ 1668 01:34:05,556 --> 01:34:06,724 ♪ There's a better... ♪ 1669 01:34:06,807 --> 01:34:10,394 [man] Columbus didn't discover America. There were people here already. 1670 01:34:10,811 --> 01:34:14,440 Even though they stole most everything they could get their hands on. 1671 01:34:15,483 --> 01:34:20,029 Our land, children, women, whatever, they took it. 1672 01:34:20,821 --> 01:34:22,615 Left us very poor people. 1673 01:34:22,865 --> 01:34:25,368 A lot of our people homeless in our own country. 1674 01:34:26,285 --> 01:34:28,162 But the best things of all, 1675 01:34:29,038 --> 01:34:30,331 that they had no value, 1676 01:34:30,915 --> 01:34:32,458 was our way of life. 1677 01:34:32,833 --> 01:34:34,877 -[drumming] -[people singing] 1678 01:34:40,466 --> 01:34:43,594 [Rolling Thunder] It's beautiful music when that thunder rolls. 1679 01:34:44,845 --> 01:34:46,764 And that's the way I got my name. 1680 01:34:47,431 --> 01:34:50,726 I used to scream like a little eagle is what they told me. 1681 01:34:50,893 --> 01:34:54,897 Even when I was a baby in diapers, run right out in the storm. 1682 01:34:55,690 --> 01:34:56,649 Yeah, I love it. 1683 01:34:57,233 --> 01:35:00,945 And that lightning flash, there's a lot of power in it, I tell you. 1684 01:35:01,487 --> 01:35:03,364 [singing continues] 1685 01:35:03,572 --> 01:35:05,991 [older Dylan] This tour was named after Chief Rolling Thunder. 1686 01:35:06,450 --> 01:35:11,539 So, it made sense that we go to the Tuscarora Indian Reservation and... 1687 01:35:12,957 --> 01:35:13,833 and play. 1688 01:35:14,083 --> 01:35:15,876 We're gonna let our guests get their food. 1689 01:35:16,210 --> 01:35:19,797 I was just told it's gonna be cafeteria style. 1690 01:35:20,506 --> 01:35:22,883 [Elliot] Bob was seated right across the table from me, 1691 01:35:22,967 --> 01:35:23,801 and he said, 1692 01:35:24,009 --> 01:35:28,389 "You remember Peter's song about Ira Hayes?" 1693 01:35:29,348 --> 01:35:33,018 [Peter La Farge] And even today, there are things to write about... 1694 01:35:34,019 --> 01:35:36,188 for a cowboy, and I'm a cowboy. 1695 01:35:36,772 --> 01:35:38,858 An Indian, and I'm part Indian. 1696 01:35:39,108 --> 01:35:40,568 Or a human being. 1697 01:35:41,402 --> 01:35:43,654 This is a song about a human being, 1698 01:35:45,156 --> 01:35:46,741 who is also an Indian. 1699 01:35:49,326 --> 01:35:51,412 And if you don't remember his name, 1700 01:35:52,371 --> 01:35:55,416 I think you may after this song. 1701 01:35:55,583 --> 01:35:58,461 It's called Ira Hayes. 1702 01:35:58,586 --> 01:36:00,588 [acoustic guitar playing] 1703 01:36:04,925 --> 01:36:08,262 -Where would you want me to stand? -Anywhere you want. It'll be all right. 1704 01:36:31,911 --> 01:36:35,831 ♪ Come gather 'round me, people And a story I will tell ♪ 1705 01:36:36,791 --> 01:36:40,836 ♪ About Ira Hayes, an Indian You should remember well ♪ 1706 01:36:41,962 --> 01:36:46,425 ♪ From the tribe of Pima Indians A proud and a peaceful band ♪ 1707 01:36:47,259 --> 01:36:51,263 ♪ They farmed the Phoenix Valley In the Arizona land ♪ 1708 01:36:52,807 --> 01:36:57,603 ♪ Down their ditches for a thousand years The running water rushed ♪ 1709 01:36:57,853 --> 01:37:00,439 ♪ Till the white man Stole the water rights ♪ 1710 01:37:00,523 --> 01:37:02,483 ♪ And the running water hushed ♪ 1711 01:37:05,402 --> 01:37:10,491 ♪ Now Ira's folks were hungry And their farms grew crops of weeds ♪ 1712 01:37:11,325 --> 01:37:16,580 ♪ But when war came, Ira volunteered And forgot the white man's greed ♪ 1713 01:37:17,581 --> 01:37:22,086 ♪ Now they started up Iwo Jima hill With two hundred and fifty men ♪ 1714 01:37:22,837 --> 01:37:27,174 ♪ But only twenty-seven lived To walk back down that hill again ♪ 1715 01:37:27,758 --> 01:37:32,012 ♪ And when the fight was over And Old Glory raised ♪ 1716 01:37:32,763 --> 01:37:36,892 ♪ One of the men that held it high Was the Indian Ira Hayes ♪ 1717 01:37:37,810 --> 01:37:40,521 ♪ Call him drunken Ira Hayes ♪ 1718 01:37:40,604 --> 01:37:42,606 ♪ He won't answer anymore ♪ 1719 01:37:43,357 --> 01:37:45,484 ♪ Not the whiskey-drinkin' Indian ♪ 1720 01:37:45,568 --> 01:37:47,945 ♪ Or the Marine that went to war ♪ 1721 01:37:48,737 --> 01:37:51,323 ♪ Call him drunken Ira Hayes ♪ 1722 01:37:51,407 --> 01:37:53,701 ♪ He won't answer anymore ♪ 1723 01:37:54,368 --> 01:37:56,579 ♪ Not the whiskey-drinkin' Indian ♪ 1724 01:37:56,745 --> 01:37:59,456 ♪ Or the Marine that went to war ♪ 1725 01:38:00,666 --> 01:38:03,794 [Chief Mad Bear] This is a United States diplomatic medal. 1726 01:38:04,461 --> 01:38:06,297 It has-- It has, uh... 1727 01:38:07,339 --> 01:38:12,177 an Indian and the first diplomatic team of-- of the United States, 1728 01:38:12,553 --> 01:38:17,725 was given in Philadelphia on July the 4th, 1776. 1729 01:38:18,559 --> 01:38:21,270 Also, been told that there's a possibility 1730 01:38:21,562 --> 01:38:23,731 that these could be the same beads, 1731 01:38:23,856 --> 01:38:26,734 these, uh, larger ones, that Peter Minuit 1732 01:38:27,484 --> 01:38:30,571 traded the-- our people for Manhattan Island. 1733 01:38:30,654 --> 01:38:33,115 -[crowd laughs] -[Chief Mad Bear] Will you accept this? 1734 01:38:34,700 --> 01:38:36,619 Thanks for everything. What do you say, folks? 1735 01:38:38,996 --> 01:38:40,748 [Chief Mad Bear] But somewhere along the line, 1736 01:38:40,831 --> 01:38:42,291 something has failed, and... 1737 01:38:42,458 --> 01:38:46,170 we hope that this country can straighten out before too long, 1738 01:38:46,253 --> 01:38:49,590 because there are many things that's going to happen to shape 1739 01:38:49,673 --> 01:38:51,508 not only this country but the world. 1740 01:38:53,135 --> 01:38:53,969 [van Dorp] Bob. 1741 01:38:55,137 --> 01:38:56,889 What you-- You guys still here? 1742 01:38:58,349 --> 01:39:00,309 [van Dorp] Can I ask just one question? 1743 01:39:02,853 --> 01:39:05,773 ["The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll" playing] 1744 01:39:06,565 --> 01:39:09,652 ♪ William Zanzinger Killed poor Hattie Carroll ♪ 1745 01:39:10,319 --> 01:39:13,989 ♪ With a cane that he twirled Round his diamond ring finger ♪ 1746 01:39:14,281 --> 01:39:17,701 ♪ At a Baltimore hotel Society gath'rin' ♪ 1747 01:39:18,285 --> 01:39:21,914 ♪ And the cops were called in And his weapon took from him ♪ 1748 01:39:22,247 --> 01:39:25,960 ♪ As they rode him in custody Down to the station ♪ 1749 01:39:26,043 --> 01:39:30,255 ♪ And booked William Zanzinger For first-degree murder ♪ 1750 01:39:33,133 --> 01:39:36,971 ♪ Yes, and you who philosophize disgrace ♪ 1751 01:39:37,054 --> 01:39:39,974 ♪ And criticize all fear ♪ 1752 01:39:41,225 --> 01:39:45,020 ♪ Take the rag away from your face ♪ 1753 01:39:45,312 --> 01:39:48,732 ♪ Now ain't the time for your tears ♪ 1754 01:39:54,279 --> 01:39:58,659 [Baez] Everything is forgiven whenever I would see Bob sing. 1755 01:39:59,743 --> 01:40:01,078 It is so... 1756 01:40:01,495 --> 01:40:02,830 the charisma... 1757 01:40:03,914 --> 01:40:06,291 that he has, I've never seen anywhere, 1758 01:40:06,917 --> 01:40:08,293 before or since. 1759 01:40:09,169 --> 01:40:12,047 And the beauty of those songs... 1760 01:40:12,131 --> 01:40:13,841 [imitates rapid typing sounds] 1761 01:40:13,924 --> 01:40:14,925 I don't. 1762 01:40:15,134 --> 01:40:17,553 Jack Kerouac, uh, writes like ticker tape. 1763 01:40:18,554 --> 01:40:20,681 I used to see you write like ticker tape. 1764 01:40:21,640 --> 01:40:25,227 I used to feed you salad and red wine while you wrote like ticker tape. 1765 01:40:25,811 --> 01:40:26,687 Yeah, I remember. 1766 01:40:26,770 --> 01:40:28,856 Brilliant stuff. William Zanzinger. 1767 01:40:29,064 --> 01:40:31,150 Overlooking the Pacific. 1768 01:40:31,859 --> 01:40:34,069 The wild Pacific Ocean in Big Sur, right? 1769 01:40:34,153 --> 01:40:36,030 -William Zanzinger. -Where was that written? 1770 01:40:36,113 --> 01:40:38,741 "Hattie Carroll." One of the best songs I think you ever wrote. 1771 01:40:38,824 --> 01:40:40,492 I think it's one of the best songs you sing. 1772 01:40:40,576 --> 01:40:43,579 Thank you. How come you take it on the stage now? 1773 01:40:43,954 --> 01:40:46,123 -'Cause you won't sing it. -[laughs] 1774 01:40:47,249 --> 01:40:48,208 Oh, Bob. 1775 01:40:49,251 --> 01:40:50,085 Sure, I will. 1776 01:40:51,211 --> 01:40:52,796 Just 'cause I screwed up the words. 1777 01:40:53,047 --> 01:40:54,882 -Well, it really... -How do you like my dress? 1778 01:40:54,965 --> 01:40:57,676 ...displeases me that you-- that you went off and got married 1779 01:40:57,760 --> 01:40:59,011 and-- and, uh... 1780 01:41:00,637 --> 01:41:03,140 You went off and got married first and didn't tell me. 1781 01:41:03,682 --> 01:41:05,684 Yeah, but-- [stammers] 1782 01:41:09,188 --> 01:41:12,399 -You should have told me or something. -But I married the woman I loved. 1783 01:41:12,483 --> 01:41:13,442 I know, that's true. 1784 01:41:14,568 --> 01:41:17,404 That's true. And I married the man I thought I loved. 1785 01:41:22,284 --> 01:41:24,244 See, that's what thought has to do with it. 1786 01:41:24,328 --> 01:41:25,829 Thought will fuck you up. 1787 01:41:27,206 --> 01:41:28,540 You're right. I agree with that. 1788 01:41:28,624 --> 01:41:30,876 See, it's heart, it's not-- it's not head. 1789 01:41:30,959 --> 01:41:34,171 ["The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll" resumes] 1790 01:41:39,718 --> 01:41:42,221 ♪ Hattie Carroll was A maid of the kitchen ♪ 1791 01:41:42,638 --> 01:41:46,225 ♪ She was fifty-one years old And gave birth to ten children ♪ 1792 01:41:46,725 --> 01:41:50,521 ♪ She cleaned up the dishes Hauled out the garbage ♪ 1793 01:41:50,896 --> 01:41:53,816 ♪ And never sat once At the head of the table ♪ 1794 01:41:54,608 --> 01:41:57,945 ♪ She just cleaned up All the food from the table ♪ 1795 01:41:58,529 --> 01:42:01,824 ♪ And emptied the ashtrays On a whole other level ♪ 1796 01:42:02,282 --> 01:42:06,078 ♪ Got killed by a blow Lay slain by a cane ♪ 1797 01:42:06,245 --> 01:42:09,915 ♪ That sailed through the air And came down through the room ♪ 1798 01:42:10,290 --> 01:42:13,794 ♪ Doomed and determined To destroy all the gentle ♪ 1799 01:42:14,002 --> 01:42:17,881 ♪ And she never done nothing To William Zanzinger ♪ 1800 01:42:20,801 --> 01:42:27,516 ♪ Yes, and you who philosophize disgrace And criticize all fears ♪ 1801 01:42:28,809 --> 01:42:32,771 ♪ Take the rag away from your face ♪ 1802 01:42:32,855 --> 01:42:36,066 ♪ Now ain't the time for your tears ♪ 1803 01:43:00,007 --> 01:43:03,552 ♪ In the courtroom of honor The judge pounded his gavel ♪ 1804 01:43:04,094 --> 01:43:07,681 ♪ To show that all's equal And that the courts are on the level ♪ 1805 01:43:07,890 --> 01:43:11,310 ♪ That the strings in the books Ain't pulled and persuaded ♪ 1806 01:43:11,852 --> 01:43:15,480 ♪ And that even the nobles Get properly handled ♪ 1807 01:43:15,856 --> 01:43:19,484 ♪ Once that the cops Have chased after and caught 'em ♪ 1808 01:43:19,735 --> 01:43:22,946 ♪ That the ladder of law Has no top and no bottom ♪ 1809 01:43:23,655 --> 01:43:27,326 ♪ Stared at the person Who killed for no reason ♪ 1810 01:43:27,492 --> 01:43:31,288 ♪ Who just happened to be feelin' That way without warnin' ♪ 1811 01:43:31,455 --> 01:43:35,375 ♪ And he spoke through his cloak So deep and distinguished ♪ 1812 01:43:35,709 --> 01:43:39,171 ♪ Handed out strongly For penalty and repentance ♪ 1813 01:43:39,421 --> 01:43:43,383 ♪ William Zanzinger With a six-month sentence ♪ 1814 01:43:46,011 --> 01:43:49,806 ♪ Yes, and you who philosophize disgrace ♪ 1815 01:43:49,932 --> 01:43:52,851 ♪ And criticize all fear ♪ 1816 01:43:54,186 --> 01:43:57,814 ♪ Bury the rag deep in your face ♪ 1817 01:43:58,148 --> 01:44:01,151 ♪ Now is the time for your tears ♪ 1818 01:44:22,506 --> 01:44:24,591 [audience cheering] 1819 01:44:25,092 --> 01:44:27,678 ♪ But sleep won't come ♪ 1820 01:44:29,388 --> 01:44:31,515 ♪ The whole night through ♪ 1821 01:44:33,642 --> 01:44:37,646 ♪ Your cheatin' heart ♪ 1822 01:44:37,938 --> 01:44:39,898 ♪ Will tell on you ♪ 1823 01:44:42,317 --> 01:44:45,570 ♪ You'll walk the floor ♪ 1824 01:44:46,655 --> 01:44:49,241 ♪ And shout my name ♪ 1825 01:44:50,951 --> 01:44:52,411 [man on phone] The hours are creeping down. 1826 01:44:52,494 --> 01:44:55,122 -We got to get the story. -[Sloman on phone] I'm getting it! 1827 01:44:55,205 --> 01:44:58,417 I'm only up all fuckin' night when the hours are creeping down. 1828 01:44:59,042 --> 01:45:01,044 [man] Well, I mean, you had two fuckin' weeks, Larry. 1829 01:45:01,128 --> 01:45:01,962 [Sloman] To do what? 1830 01:45:02,045 --> 01:45:05,215 -[man] To get a story, instead of-- -[Sloman] I gave you a story, I gave you-- 1831 01:45:05,299 --> 01:45:07,426 [man] That had a lot of fuckin' holes in it. 1832 01:45:07,509 --> 01:45:09,928 -[Sloman] Well, but you're a bureaucrat. -[man] Oh, bullshit. 1833 01:45:10,012 --> 01:45:11,888 -Where do you get that crap? -[Sloman] You ask-- 1834 01:45:11,972 --> 01:45:13,932 You are a bureaucrat. You ask me fuckin'... 1835 01:45:14,016 --> 01:45:15,934 uh, Wall Street Journal questions. 1836 01:45:16,018 --> 01:45:17,978 -[man] Bullshit. -[Sloman] Those are the questions-- 1837 01:45:18,061 --> 01:45:19,771 [man] Everybody in the fuckin' country wants to know-- 1838 01:45:19,855 --> 01:45:23,066 [Sloman] You're asking me music business questions, man. 1839 01:45:23,483 --> 01:45:24,651 [man] That's part of it, isn't it? 1840 01:45:24,735 --> 01:45:26,403 [Sloman] But that's not what the kids wanna read. 1841 01:45:26,486 --> 01:45:29,281 -[man] How do you know? -[Sloman] I know kids, man! I ask them. 1842 01:45:29,364 --> 01:45:33,118 [Dylan] ♪ ...and call my name ♪ 1843 01:45:33,201 --> 01:45:36,288 [Sloman] Rolling Stone magazine was interested in the economics, 1844 01:45:36,371 --> 01:45:38,290 how much are these people getting paid... 1845 01:45:38,373 --> 01:45:41,084 You know, why are they playing bigger halls as the tour went on? 1846 01:45:41,168 --> 01:45:43,128 Those were the kind of questions they were asking, 1847 01:45:43,211 --> 01:45:44,629 and I didn't give a shit about that. 1848 01:45:44,713 --> 01:45:48,717 I mean, what I was concerned with was, you know, chronicling this... 1849 01:45:49,593 --> 01:45:51,470 this, uh, cultural event. 1850 01:45:52,846 --> 01:45:55,182 -[man] Can I offer you a beer? -[van Dorp] Sure. 1851 01:45:57,184 --> 01:45:58,935 -[man] There we go. -[van Dorp] Thank you. 1852 01:46:00,312 --> 01:46:02,689 [Gianopulos] There ain't too many Medicis around these days, 1853 01:46:03,065 --> 01:46:06,276 and whether you're out on the road with a lot of people, 1854 01:46:06,360 --> 01:46:07,652 or you're making a movie, 1855 01:46:07,736 --> 01:46:11,031 or any kind of creative endeavor that takes resources, 1856 01:46:11,865 --> 01:46:12,741 you need money. 1857 01:46:12,949 --> 01:46:15,410 And you gotta go to somebody who believes 1858 01:46:15,494 --> 01:46:18,497 that they're gonna get their money back and maybe a little more. 1859 01:46:18,580 --> 01:46:21,583 So, yeah, there's always this natural tension 1860 01:46:21,666 --> 01:46:22,918 between art and commerce. 1861 01:46:23,001 --> 01:46:25,003 [man 1] Okay, how 'bout-- We gotta cut one of Jack's. 1862 01:46:25,087 --> 01:46:28,173 -[Ginsberg] He says to cut "Muleskinner." -[man 2] He wants to cut "Muleskinner." 1863 01:46:28,256 --> 01:46:30,217 [man 1] All right. Okay. 1864 01:46:31,051 --> 01:46:32,719 [Kemp] I'll talk to Bob about this. 1865 01:46:33,720 --> 01:46:36,515 -All right, Allen's gonna do something? -Five minutes. Very brief. 1866 01:46:36,598 --> 01:46:39,351 [Kemp] You got a whole different audience. Did you look at those people? 1867 01:46:39,434 --> 01:46:42,354 They're not familiar with Dylan or Baez or anybody else. 1868 01:46:42,437 --> 01:46:43,271 Right. 1869 01:46:43,355 --> 01:46:45,690 [Kemp] If you go up and spill poetry for any length of time, 1870 01:46:45,774 --> 01:46:47,734 they're gonna be, you know, gone, you know? 1871 01:46:47,818 --> 01:46:49,319 [man 1] Make it two minutes, Allen. 1872 01:46:49,403 --> 01:46:51,238 [Kemp] Two minutes is plenty, I'm telling you. 1873 01:46:51,321 --> 01:46:52,864 -Okay. -[man 1] What about more cuts? 1874 01:46:52,948 --> 01:46:54,866 -Two minutes. -[Neuwirth] We're still cutting. 1875 01:46:54,950 --> 01:46:57,202 [Blakley] The show was originally three hours. 1876 01:46:57,285 --> 01:47:00,372 Ginsberg, who appeared in the show originally, 1877 01:47:00,997 --> 01:47:04,584 there was not enough time for him to perform during the show, 1878 01:47:04,668 --> 01:47:06,711 so his section was cut. 1879 01:47:10,715 --> 01:47:13,760 [Blakley] He and Peter Orlovsky became the baggage handlers. 1880 01:47:15,137 --> 01:47:18,807 We would put our bags outside the door, and he would take them every day. 1881 01:47:19,641 --> 01:47:21,059 You're a fuckin' luggage handler? 1882 01:47:21,143 --> 01:47:23,645 -God, yeah, and I give massages sometimes. -You're a poet! 1883 01:47:23,728 --> 01:47:26,314 I make myself useful around, on the, uh... 1884 01:47:27,023 --> 01:47:31,403 Uh... helping Chris with the newsletter and putting out the newsletter. 1885 01:47:31,486 --> 01:47:32,904 -You do errands? -Errands, right. 1886 01:47:32,988 --> 01:47:34,531 I can't believe this shit. 1887 01:47:34,614 --> 01:47:37,367 What kind of tour is this? You're a fuckin' great poet, Peter. 1888 01:47:37,451 --> 01:47:40,871 I'm learning-- Been practicing banjo, and I've been sitting every morning... 1889 01:47:40,954 --> 01:47:44,166 Uh, tomorrow morning, we're gonna sit with Allen for one hour. 1890 01:47:44,249 --> 01:47:46,585 -To do what? -After we wake up, sit and meditate. 1891 01:47:49,087 --> 01:47:51,423 [van Dorp] At a party at Gordon Lightfoot's house, 1892 01:47:51,506 --> 01:47:52,966 Toronto, Canada. 1893 01:48:01,558 --> 01:48:04,227 -[folk music playing] -[indistinct chatter] 1894 01:48:07,647 --> 01:48:10,484 [indistinct vocalizing] 1895 01:48:19,117 --> 01:48:22,496 [McGuinn] Joni Mitchell, she would go out and do her new songs. 1896 01:48:22,579 --> 01:48:23,872 She wouldn't do any hits. 1897 01:48:24,289 --> 01:48:27,459 And the audience reaction was a little sort of muted 1898 01:48:27,542 --> 01:48:28,835 for these new songs, 1899 01:48:28,919 --> 01:48:31,421 as it usually is when artists try to do new songs. 1900 01:48:31,505 --> 01:48:33,548 And I remember, she came off and she said, 1901 01:48:33,632 --> 01:48:36,927 "McGuinn, I don't know why I'm so scared out there. I just don't..." 1902 01:48:37,010 --> 01:48:38,553 I said, "You're just doing new songs. 1903 01:48:38,637 --> 01:48:40,430 You ought to do something that they recognize, 1904 01:48:40,514 --> 01:48:42,349 and then they'll, you know, loosen up." 1905 01:48:42,432 --> 01:48:45,727 She said, "No, no, I-- I can't do that. I think that's a bad idea." 1906 01:48:50,607 --> 01:48:51,650 [laughs] 1907 01:48:52,025 --> 01:48:56,196 [McGuinn] I admired her for her courage to do the new stuff only. 1908 01:48:58,615 --> 01:49:00,909 [McGuinn] Joni wrote this song about this tour, 1909 01:49:00,992 --> 01:49:03,370 and on this tour, and for this tour. 1910 01:49:03,703 --> 01:49:05,705 [continues strumming guitar] 1911 01:49:23,014 --> 01:49:24,182 Okay, D-minor now. 1912 01:49:28,603 --> 01:49:30,063 Yeah, some dissonance. 1913 01:49:31,356 --> 01:49:37,153 [Sloman] I had been loudly proclaiming that my three favorite male songwriters 1914 01:49:37,529 --> 01:49:40,156 were Bob Dylan, Leonard Cohen, and Kinky Friedman. 1915 01:49:40,949 --> 01:49:45,870 So, Joni started interrogating me backstage one day, saying, 1916 01:49:46,621 --> 01:49:48,206 "What do you mean, male? 1917 01:49:48,290 --> 01:49:50,458 Why do you make that distinction, male songwriters? 1918 01:49:50,542 --> 01:49:52,210 I mean, what about my stuff? 1919 01:49:52,419 --> 01:49:55,338 I mean, don't you characterize my stuff, like, you know, 1920 01:49:55,422 --> 01:49:57,882 in the same league as Bob and Leonard Cohen?" 1921 01:49:57,966 --> 01:49:59,968 [guitar playing] 1922 01:50:00,552 --> 01:50:02,637 [Sloman] And we got into this long discussion about, 1923 01:50:02,721 --> 01:50:06,182 well, the male versus female perspective, and anima-animus, 1924 01:50:06,266 --> 01:50:08,810 and, you know, male-female dynamic, and everything, you know. 1925 01:50:08,893 --> 01:50:12,731 But it became this long, drawn-out confrontation, 1926 01:50:12,814 --> 01:50:14,274 and we bonded on that. 1927 01:50:15,442 --> 01:50:17,152 ♪ No regrets, Coyote ♪ 1928 01:50:17,861 --> 01:50:20,905 ♪ We just come from such different sets Of circumstance ♪ 1929 01:50:20,989 --> 01:50:22,699 ♪ I'm up all night in the studios ♪ 1930 01:50:22,782 --> 01:50:26,453 ♪ And you're up early on your ranch ♪ 1931 01:50:26,995 --> 01:50:29,289 ♪ Brushing out a broodmare's tail ♪ 1932 01:50:29,456 --> 01:50:31,041 ♪ While the sun is ascending ♪ 1933 01:50:31,124 --> 01:50:34,961 ♪ And I'll just be getting home With my reel-to-reel ♪ 1934 01:50:35,545 --> 01:50:37,255 ♪ There's no comprehending ♪ 1935 01:50:38,006 --> 01:50:40,425 ♪ Just how close To the bone and the skin ♪ 1936 01:50:40,675 --> 01:50:43,428 ♪ And the eyes and the lips you can get ♪ 1937 01:50:43,887 --> 01:50:46,389 ♪ And still feel so alone ♪ 1938 01:50:46,931 --> 01:50:49,059 ♪ And still feel related ♪ 1939 01:50:49,517 --> 01:50:51,519 ♪ Like stations in a relay ♪ 1940 01:50:51,936 --> 01:50:54,939 ♪ You're not a hit-and-run driver No, no ♪ 1941 01:50:55,565 --> 01:50:57,150 ♪ Racing away ♪ 1942 01:50:58,234 --> 01:51:00,070 ♪ You just picked up a hitcher ♪ 1943 01:51:00,654 --> 01:51:05,408 ♪ A prisoner of the white lines On the freeway ♪ 1944 01:51:15,418 --> 01:51:17,462 ♪ We saw a farmhouse burning down ♪ 1945 01:51:18,296 --> 01:51:21,007 ♪ In the middle of nowhere In the middle of the night ♪ 1946 01:51:21,132 --> 01:51:23,343 ♪ And we rolled right past that tragedy ♪ 1947 01:51:23,551 --> 01:51:26,346 ♪ Till we came to some roadside lights ♪ 1948 01:51:26,638 --> 01:51:29,015 ♪ And a local band was playing ♪ 1949 01:51:29,099 --> 01:51:32,185 ♪ Locals were mincin' And shakin' on the floor ♪ 1950 01:51:32,477 --> 01:51:33,978 ♪ The next thing I know ♪ 1951 01:51:35,271 --> 01:51:36,815 ♪ That Coyote's at my door ♪ 1952 01:51:37,899 --> 01:51:40,694 ♪ And he pins me in a corner And he won't take no ♪ 1953 01:51:41,111 --> 01:51:42,946 ♪ He drags me out on the dance floor ♪ 1954 01:51:43,029 --> 01:51:46,032 ♪ And we're dancin' close and slow ♪ 1955 01:51:46,366 --> 01:51:48,493 ♪ He's got a woman at home ♪ 1956 01:51:48,827 --> 01:51:52,080 ♪ One for the night And now he wants one for the day ♪ 1957 01:51:52,414 --> 01:51:56,501 ♪ Oh, why'd you have to get so drunk And lead me on that way? ♪ 1958 01:51:57,711 --> 01:51:59,629 ♪ You just picked up a hitcher ♪ 1959 01:52:00,296 --> 01:52:04,467 ♪ A prisoner of the white lines And the freeway ♪ 1960 01:52:28,241 --> 01:52:30,243 [song ends] 1961 01:52:32,036 --> 01:52:32,871 [chuckles] 1962 01:52:32,954 --> 01:52:34,581 [Dylan] Let's call Hopper, man. 1963 01:52:34,664 --> 01:52:36,458 [McGuinn] Fuck yeah. Let me change channels. 1964 01:52:36,541 --> 01:52:38,251 [Blakley] Why do you have that? 1965 01:52:38,334 --> 01:52:39,878 [man 1] What are you on, channel 31? 1966 01:52:39,961 --> 01:52:41,796 -[man 2] Uh, give me, uh... -[Dylan] Okay. 1967 01:52:42,005 --> 01:52:42,839 [man 1] Okay. 1968 01:52:42,922 --> 01:52:45,967 [group] ♪ I took my troubles Down to Madame Rue ♪ 1969 01:52:46,885 --> 01:52:49,971 ♪ You know that gypsy With the gold-capped tooth ♪ 1970 01:52:50,555 --> 01:52:53,892 ♪ She's got a pad Down on Thirty-Fourth and Vine ♪ 1971 01:52:54,392 --> 01:52:59,564 ♪ Sellin' little bottles Of Love Potion Number Nine ♪ 1972 01:52:59,647 --> 01:53:01,065 [Ginsberg] What poetry is, 1973 01:53:01,941 --> 01:53:04,861 the natural object, where we are now, 1974 01:53:04,944 --> 01:53:06,696 is always adequate symbol, 1975 01:53:06,780 --> 01:53:09,616 so you don't have to invent romantic myths, 1976 01:53:10,033 --> 01:53:12,702 diamond dancers on oceansides. 1977 01:53:13,953 --> 01:53:18,124 The scratching of the pen or the noise in the back of the bar 1978 01:53:18,541 --> 01:53:19,667 is part of the music. 1979 01:53:21,211 --> 01:53:24,756 ♪ She bent down, turned around And gave me a wink ♪ 1980 01:53:25,006 --> 01:53:28,384 ♪ She said, "I'm gonna mix it up Right here in the sink" ♪ 1981 01:53:28,718 --> 01:53:30,553 ♪ It smelled like turpentine... ♪ 1982 01:53:30,720 --> 01:53:33,848 [Jimmy Carter] I've never had more faith in America 1983 01:53:34,516 --> 01:53:35,558 than I do today. 1984 01:53:36,351 --> 01:53:37,644 We have an America 1985 01:53:38,186 --> 01:53:39,896 that, in Bob Dylan's phrase, 1986 01:53:40,438 --> 01:53:42,190 is busy being born, 1987 01:53:43,525 --> 01:53:44,776 not busy dying. 1988 01:53:45,485 --> 01:53:46,778 [audience applauds] 1989 01:53:48,154 --> 01:53:50,990 [man] I was very enamored of Jimmy Carter. 1990 01:53:51,074 --> 01:53:54,994 He-- I thought he was a really soulful, interesting guy, 1991 01:53:55,078 --> 01:53:56,246 and he liked me. 1992 01:53:56,788 --> 01:53:59,874 So, you know, I maintained a relationship with him for a long time. 1993 01:53:59,958 --> 01:54:01,167 And he's the guy 1994 01:54:01,709 --> 01:54:05,338 who got me into the Rolling Thunder concert that night. 1995 01:54:05,547 --> 01:54:06,756 Jimmy Carter. [chuckles] 1996 01:54:07,340 --> 01:54:08,508 Which is another story. 1997 01:54:09,467 --> 01:54:13,137 I was-- I was one of the youngest members of the Congress. 1998 01:54:13,221 --> 01:54:14,931 And so I was, um... 1999 01:54:16,140 --> 01:54:19,269 Yeah, I mean, I was torn between two generations there. 2000 01:54:19,352 --> 01:54:22,480 I was being pulled in both... You know, you want to get anything done, 2001 01:54:22,564 --> 01:54:24,691 you have to get along with people in the Congress. 2002 01:54:24,858 --> 01:54:28,361 You know, you don't get anything done anymore because nobody wants to, but... 2003 01:54:28,736 --> 01:54:30,905 in my day you, you know, you made an effort 2004 01:54:31,155 --> 01:54:32,365 to get along with these guys. 2005 01:54:32,448 --> 01:54:34,492 And most of them were considerably older than I was. 2006 01:54:34,576 --> 01:54:38,413 And Dylan was considered the enemy, really, by a lot of these guys. 2007 01:54:38,746 --> 01:54:41,541 I had grown up in this era where, you know, you wanted to be an adult, 2008 01:54:41,624 --> 01:54:44,085 you wanted to drink a martini with your dad, you know. 2009 01:54:44,168 --> 01:54:45,211 And now... 2010 01:54:45,503 --> 01:54:48,131 you know, "Never trust anybody over 30." Right? 2011 01:54:48,214 --> 01:54:51,092 And I'm caught in the middle of this, and I'm dealing in the Congress 2012 01:54:51,175 --> 01:54:52,760 with all these old guys, and... 2013 01:54:52,927 --> 01:54:55,555 [laughs] You know, it's an interesting conundrum. 2014 01:54:56,598 --> 01:54:59,517 [Jimmy Carter on recording] My own interest in the criminal justice system 2015 01:54:59,601 --> 01:55:00,935 is very heartfelt. 2016 01:55:01,436 --> 01:55:03,646 One of the sources for my understanding about 2017 01:55:03,771 --> 01:55:05,523 what's right and wrong in this society 2018 01:55:05,607 --> 01:55:08,318 is from a personal, very close friend of mine 2019 01:55:08,693 --> 01:55:10,653 a great poet named Bob Dylan. 2020 01:55:11,696 --> 01:55:15,199 After listening to his records about "The Ballad of Hattie Carroll" 2021 01:55:15,283 --> 01:55:17,160 and "Like a Rolling Stone," 2022 01:55:17,744 --> 01:55:23,666 I've learned to appreciate the dynamism of change in a modern society. 2023 01:55:24,542 --> 01:55:27,587 I grew up as a landowner's son, 2024 01:55:27,962 --> 01:55:31,132 but I don't think I ever realized that the proper interrelationship 2025 01:55:31,215 --> 01:55:33,968 between the landowner and those who worked on a farm 2026 01:55:34,385 --> 01:55:36,846 until I heard Dylan's record, 2027 01:55:36,930 --> 01:55:39,349 "I Ain't Gonna Work On Maggie's Farm No More." 2028 01:55:40,433 --> 01:55:42,894 [Tanner] So I went to this meeting, I believe it was in Atlanta. 2029 01:55:43,478 --> 01:55:47,690 Jimmy was there, and he and I spoke about a few things. 2030 01:55:47,774 --> 01:55:51,402 And I can't remember exactly what was left unsaid, 2031 01:55:51,486 --> 01:55:54,072 but I told him that I would call him back that night, 2032 01:55:54,155 --> 01:55:56,074 and we were gonna finish this conversation. 2033 01:55:56,157 --> 01:55:57,700 I had to get to the airport. 2034 01:55:58,201 --> 01:56:00,328 So I get on the flight, I'm trying to get home. 2035 01:56:00,828 --> 01:56:05,375 And I got caught in a storm, and we got diverted to Niagara Falls. 2036 01:56:06,042 --> 01:56:08,962 And I get stashed in this cheesy little motel 2037 01:56:09,045 --> 01:56:10,546 that the airline put us up in. 2038 01:56:11,005 --> 01:56:12,674 I called Jimmy to say I hadn't reached home, 2039 01:56:12,757 --> 01:56:15,009 but we could talk tomorrow, and he said, "Where are you?" 2040 01:56:15,093 --> 01:56:17,387 And I said, "I'm in Niagara Falls." And he says, "Well, 2041 01:56:17,470 --> 01:56:19,764 you just hit the jackpot because-- 2042 01:56:19,847 --> 01:56:22,934 because Bob Dylan's doing this Rolling Thunder concert 2043 01:56:23,017 --> 01:56:25,144 there tonight, and you can go." 2044 01:56:25,603 --> 01:56:29,232 [laughs] He said, "I'll call him and I'll get you in." 2045 01:56:29,691 --> 01:56:32,151 -[indistinct chatter] -[man] Dylan! 2046 01:56:33,069 --> 01:56:34,862 [woman] Dylan, you're beautiful! 2047 01:56:35,613 --> 01:56:36,698 [fanfare plays] 2048 01:56:36,823 --> 01:56:39,325 [Hurdley] Uncle Sam is going to sing 2049 01:56:39,409 --> 01:56:42,537 one of his versions of "The Star-Spangled Banner." 2050 01:56:42,787 --> 01:56:43,746 Ladies and gentlemen... 2051 01:56:43,830 --> 01:56:46,541 [Ginsberg] I saw the best minds of my generation 2052 01:56:46,624 --> 01:56:48,334 destroyed by madness, 2053 01:56:48,418 --> 01:56:49,627 starving hysterical... 2054 01:56:49,752 --> 01:56:52,255 [La Farge] This song about a human being 2055 01:56:52,338 --> 01:56:53,589 who is also an Indian. 2056 01:56:55,550 --> 01:56:58,803 -[man] "Let America be America again." -[La Farge] And if you don't remember... 2057 01:56:58,886 --> 01:57:00,972 [man] "Let it be the dream it used to be." 2058 01:57:03,141 --> 01:57:06,019 [intro to "Hurricane" playing] 2059 01:57:08,312 --> 01:57:09,939 [woman] No, I'm sorry, you-- you can't... 2060 01:57:10,023 --> 01:57:12,859 -Excuse me. You can't shoot in here. -[man] You need authorization. 2061 01:57:12,942 --> 01:57:14,819 [woman] You cannot shoot in here, sir. 2062 01:57:14,902 --> 01:57:17,780 -[van Dorp] Why can't I shoot in here? -He's running the camera. 2063 01:57:17,864 --> 01:57:19,323 [man] What organization are you from? 2064 01:57:19,407 --> 01:57:21,117 [indistinct murmuring] 2065 01:57:21,826 --> 01:57:23,494 [man 2] Do you know where you're going to? 2066 01:57:23,578 --> 01:57:25,121 I don't know. You'll have to ask him. 2067 01:57:26,539 --> 01:57:30,501 I'm sorry you had the hassle. Uh, we didn't know you were coming. 2068 01:57:31,335 --> 01:57:32,295 Obviously. 2069 01:57:32,378 --> 01:57:34,088 [Kemp] We just happened to be in the neighborhood. 2070 01:57:34,172 --> 01:57:37,050 -I heard it was you. -I brought a friend if you don't mind. 2071 01:57:37,133 --> 01:57:40,011 No, I don't mind, but I'm sorry you had any trouble downstairs. 2072 01:57:40,094 --> 01:57:41,554 Uh, Irwin, this is Bob. 2073 01:57:41,637 --> 01:57:42,847 -How are you? -[Dylan] Good. 2074 01:57:42,930 --> 01:57:44,182 But if you're looking... 2075 01:57:45,224 --> 01:57:46,726 to help the guy, in effect, 2076 01:57:46,934 --> 01:57:50,646 you know, and your purpose is a social one rather than a record one, 2077 01:57:51,022 --> 01:57:54,275 then I think it probably would make sense, you know, to comment, you know, early. 2078 01:57:54,358 --> 01:57:56,986 You know what I'm saying? I don't know what your motivations are. 2079 01:57:57,320 --> 01:57:59,781 You're kind of throwing it out and I haven't given a lot of thought. 2080 01:57:59,864 --> 01:58:01,532 I think there's a Top 40 AM problem. 2081 01:58:01,616 --> 01:58:05,453 Conversely, there may be a lot of black radio play, 2082 01:58:05,536 --> 01:58:06,954 for example, in the east. 2083 01:58:07,205 --> 01:58:09,916 -[Yetnikoff] Or you make it AM play. -So WWRL would-- 2084 01:58:09,999 --> 01:58:12,835 [Yetnikoff] It's a Bob Dylan statement, that it is unique. 2085 01:58:12,919 --> 01:58:14,212 Whoever wants to play it can play it, 2086 01:58:14,295 --> 01:58:15,922 but the idea is he wants it on the streets, 2087 01:58:16,005 --> 01:58:18,257 so people can do with it what they want. 2088 01:58:18,341 --> 01:58:19,842 [Yetnikoff] But with those caveats, 2089 01:58:19,926 --> 01:58:22,970 your motivation is to try to do what you can for the guy, 2090 01:58:23,054 --> 01:58:25,431 then it probably makes sense to do it as quickly as possible. 2091 01:58:25,515 --> 01:58:27,809 -That's the motivation. -[Yetnikoff] Uh... 2092 01:58:27,892 --> 01:58:31,104 [Dylan] ♪ Pistol shots ring out In a barroom night ♪ 2093 01:58:31,646 --> 01:58:35,358 ♪ Enter Patty Valentine From the upper hall ♪ 2094 01:58:35,775 --> 01:58:39,028 ♪ She sees the bartender In a pool of blood ♪ 2095 01:58:39,612 --> 01:58:43,199 ♪ Cries out, "My God They killed them all"... ♪ 2096 01:58:43,282 --> 01:58:46,452 If they can get it out on the street in a week that's, you know, that's good. 2097 01:58:46,536 --> 01:58:47,995 That's what they were talking about. 2098 01:58:49,122 --> 01:58:52,041 [Sloman] Rubin Carter was an amazing boxer, 2099 01:58:52,125 --> 01:58:53,000 middleweight, 2100 01:58:53,084 --> 01:58:54,794 who had been framed 2101 01:58:55,419 --> 01:58:57,713 for a murder in New Jersey 2102 01:58:57,797 --> 01:59:01,425 and was languishing now in Rahway State Prison. 2103 01:59:02,677 --> 01:59:04,262 [Sloman] Bob wrote this incredible song, 2104 01:59:04,846 --> 01:59:08,641 "Hurricane," and was very concerned about getting him out. 2105 01:59:09,267 --> 01:59:12,854 I'd written songs about boxers before, so that was nothing new, but, uh... 2106 01:59:13,938 --> 01:59:16,357 I hadn't really thought about, uh, Hurricane... 2107 01:59:17,400 --> 01:59:19,318 because I didn't know about Hurricane. 2108 01:59:19,610 --> 01:59:20,444 Uh... 2109 01:59:21,028 --> 01:59:21,904 It... 2110 01:59:23,114 --> 01:59:24,949 It never really crossed my path. 2111 01:59:26,367 --> 01:59:27,910 [young Dylan] I got the book. I read it. 2112 01:59:27,994 --> 01:59:30,997 Um, I, you know, made a mental note that if I was coming east, 2113 01:59:31,080 --> 01:59:33,249 or if I was east, I would, uh, visit him. 2114 01:59:33,499 --> 01:59:36,294 We were there for, you know, most of the day, 2115 01:59:36,377 --> 01:59:37,628 as far as I can remember. 2116 01:59:37,837 --> 01:59:40,923 Uh, we got there in the morning and then left him when it was dark. 2117 01:59:41,757 --> 01:59:43,217 I realized the man's philosophy 2118 01:59:43,301 --> 01:59:46,679 and my philosophy were running on the same road. 2119 01:59:46,888 --> 01:59:49,765 You know, and, uh, you don't meet too many people like that, 2120 01:59:49,849 --> 01:59:55,062 you know, that you just know that kinda on the same path, mentally, you know. 2121 01:59:55,146 --> 01:59:56,272 [Sloman] Yeah. 2122 01:59:56,355 --> 02:00:00,401 Dylan was different than other people who came to see me. 2123 02:00:00,776 --> 02:00:03,571 I mean, other people would ask the obvious questions. 2124 02:00:03,654 --> 02:00:05,198 "Rubin, are you guilty?" 2125 02:00:05,573 --> 02:00:08,784 You know, "Did you commit this crime?" "Did you do that?" You know. 2126 02:00:08,868 --> 02:00:10,328 But Dylan wasn't asking that. 2127 02:00:10,828 --> 02:00:14,373 Not at all. It seemed like he was searching for something else. 2128 02:00:14,665 --> 02:00:16,417 It was as if he was saying, 2129 02:00:17,543 --> 02:00:18,544 "Who are you, man?" 2130 02:00:19,045 --> 02:00:21,422 You know, "Are you what I see?" 2131 02:00:22,590 --> 02:00:26,928 I had a friend of mine send me his lyrics to his songs, 2132 02:00:27,511 --> 02:00:29,138 and so I could read his lyrics, 2133 02:00:29,222 --> 02:00:33,601 so I can get an-- an idea of who I'm talkin' to here, you know. 2134 02:00:34,518 --> 02:00:35,353 And... 2135 02:00:35,853 --> 02:00:39,523 I found something that was, uh, very interesting. Very... 2136 02:00:39,857 --> 02:00:41,234 That really connected us. 2137 02:00:41,525 --> 02:00:46,280 Both of us were... were performers and crowd-pleasers. 2138 02:00:46,572 --> 02:00:49,033 You know, me with the vicious left hook, 2139 02:00:49,825 --> 02:00:54,080 you know, whose parents grew up in the Jim Crow South, 2140 02:00:54,664 --> 02:01:00,378 and Dylan, uh, you know, with his... uh... the troubadour. 2141 02:01:00,836 --> 02:01:03,631 [Sloman] So you got back, and you had the germ of an idea to do a song? 2142 02:01:03,714 --> 02:01:04,799 -[Dylan] Yeah. -[Sloman] Why? 2143 02:01:04,882 --> 02:01:07,176 I mean, you know, is this a return to protest... 2144 02:01:07,301 --> 02:01:08,594 I mean... [chuckles] 2145 02:01:08,678 --> 02:01:11,681 You know, is this, uh, "Hattie Carroll" revisited? 2146 02:01:12,932 --> 02:01:15,851 [Dylan] Um, there's an injustice that has been done, you know. 2147 02:01:15,935 --> 02:01:18,437 And the fact is that it can happen to anybody. 2148 02:01:18,521 --> 02:01:19,897 -[Sloman] Mm-hmm. -[Dylan] You know? 2149 02:01:19,981 --> 02:01:22,525 -And we have to be confronted with that. -[Sloman] So-- So-- 2150 02:01:23,025 --> 02:01:25,027 [Dylan] This song is called "Hurricane." 2151 02:01:25,278 --> 02:01:26,612 [audience cheers] 2152 02:01:26,821 --> 02:01:28,864 If you got any political pull at all, 2153 02:01:28,948 --> 02:01:31,367 maybe you can help us get this man out of jail, 2154 02:01:31,993 --> 02:01:33,536 back onto the streets. 2155 02:01:41,919 --> 02:01:45,256 ["Hurricane" playing] 2156 02:01:58,477 --> 02:02:01,314 ♪ Pistol shots ring out In the barroom night ♪ 2157 02:02:01,814 --> 02:02:04,817 ♪ Enter Patty Valentine From the outer hall ♪ 2158 02:02:05,276 --> 02:02:07,987 ♪ She sees the bartender In a pool of blood ♪ 2159 02:02:08,279 --> 02:02:11,282 ♪ Cries out, "My God, They've killed 'em all!" ♪ 2160 02:02:11,949 --> 02:02:14,410 ♪ Here comes the story of the Hurricane ♪ 2161 02:02:15,328 --> 02:02:17,705 ♪ The man the authorities came to blame ♪ 2162 02:02:18,581 --> 02:02:20,583 ♪ For somethin' that he never done ♪ 2163 02:02:21,876 --> 02:02:25,421 ♪ Put in a prison cell But one time he coulda been ♪ 2164 02:02:25,671 --> 02:02:27,965 ♪ The champion of the world ♪ 2165 02:02:36,599 --> 02:02:38,893 ♪ Three bodies lyin' there Does Patty see ♪ 2166 02:02:39,894 --> 02:02:43,064 ♪ And another man named Bello Movin' mysteriously ♪ 2167 02:02:43,189 --> 02:02:45,941 ♪ "I didn't do it," he says And he throws up his hands ♪ 2168 02:02:46,025 --> 02:02:49,362 ♪ "I was only robbin' the register You understand ♪ 2169 02:02:49,737 --> 02:02:52,323 ♪ I saw them leave, though" he says And he stops ♪ 2170 02:02:52,990 --> 02:02:55,618 ♪ "One of us had better Call on the cops" ♪ 2171 02:02:56,243 --> 02:02:58,412 ♪ And so Patty calls the cops ♪ 2172 02:02:59,538 --> 02:03:03,167 ♪ And they arrive on the scene With their red lights flashin' ♪ 2173 02:03:03,250 --> 02:03:05,169 ♪ In the hot New Jersey night ♪ 2174 02:03:14,011 --> 02:03:16,514 ♪ Meanwhile, far away In another part of town ♪ 2175 02:03:16,680 --> 02:03:19,892 ♪ Rubin Carter and a couple of friends Are drivin' around ♪ 2176 02:03:20,142 --> 02:03:23,062 ♪ Number one contender For the middleweight crown ♪ 2177 02:03:23,354 --> 02:03:26,524 ♪ Had no idea what kinda shit Was about to go down ♪ 2178 02:03:27,066 --> 02:03:29,568 ♪ When a cop pulled him over To the side of the road ♪ 2179 02:03:30,194 --> 02:03:33,114 ♪ Just like the time before And the time before that ♪ 2180 02:03:33,197 --> 02:03:35,574 ♪ In Paterson, that's the way things go ♪ 2181 02:03:35,908 --> 02:03:40,079 ♪ If you're black, you might as well Not show up on the streets ♪ 2182 02:03:40,287 --> 02:03:42,832 ♪ 'Less you want to draw the heat ♪ 2183 02:03:51,048 --> 02:03:53,634 ♪ Alfred Bello, he laid this rap On the cops ♪ 2184 02:03:53,717 --> 02:03:56,804 ♪ "Me and Arthur Dexter Bradley Were in here prowlin' around ♪ 2185 02:03:57,138 --> 02:04:00,141 ♪ We saw two men runnin' out of here They looked like middleweights ♪ 2186 02:04:00,433 --> 02:04:03,686 ♪ Jumped into a white car With out-of-state plates" ♪ 2187 02:04:04,061 --> 02:04:06,730 ♪ And Miss Patty Valentine Just nodded her head ♪ 2188 02:04:06,856 --> 02:04:09,608 ♪ Cop said, "Wait a minute, boys This one's not dead" ♪ 2189 02:04:09,692 --> 02:04:12,361 ♪ So they took him to the infirmary ♪ 2190 02:04:13,612 --> 02:04:15,573 ♪ And though this man could hardly see ♪ 2191 02:04:15,656 --> 02:04:19,452 ♪ They told him that he could identify The guilty men ♪ 2192 02:04:27,960 --> 02:04:30,296 ♪ Four in the mornin' And they haul Rubin in ♪ 2193 02:04:30,963 --> 02:04:34,049 ♪ Took him to the hospital And they brought him upstairs ♪ 2194 02:04:34,133 --> 02:04:36,886 ♪ The wounded man looks up Through his one dyin' eye ♪ 2195 02:04:37,136 --> 02:04:40,514 ♪ Says, "Why'd you bring him in here for? He ain't the guy!" ♪ 2196 02:04:40,764 --> 02:04:43,184 ♪ Yes, here's the story of the Hurricane ♪ 2197 02:04:44,018 --> 02:04:46,395 ♪ The man the authorities came to blame ♪ 2198 02:04:47,229 --> 02:04:49,315 ♪ For somethin' that he never done ♪ 2199 02:04:50,399 --> 02:04:53,652 ♪ Put in a prison cell But one time he coulda been ♪ 2200 02:04:54,069 --> 02:04:56,238 ♪ The champion of the world ♪ 2201 02:05:04,663 --> 02:05:07,291 ♪ Four months later The ghettos are in flame ♪ 2202 02:05:07,625 --> 02:05:10,503 ♪ Rubin's in South America Fightin' for his name ♪ 2203 02:05:11,086 --> 02:05:13,756 ♪ Arthur Dexter Bradley's Still in the robbery game ♪ 2204 02:05:13,839 --> 02:05:15,591 ♪ And the cops are Puttin' the screws to him ♪ 2205 02:05:15,674 --> 02:05:17,384 ♪ Lookin' for someone to blame ♪ 2206 02:05:17,593 --> 02:05:20,054 ♪ "Remember that murder That happened in a bar? ♪ 2207 02:05:20,763 --> 02:05:23,265 ♪ Remember you said you saw The getaway car? ♪ 2208 02:05:23,682 --> 02:05:26,227 ♪ You think you'd like to play ball With the law? ♪ 2209 02:05:26,936 --> 02:05:30,356 ♪ Think it mighta been that fighter That you saw runnin' that night? ♪ 2210 02:05:30,439 --> 02:05:33,817 ♪ Don't forget now, you're white" ♪ 2211 02:05:41,200 --> 02:05:43,911 ♪ Arthur Dexter Bradley said "I'm really not sure" ♪ 2212 02:05:44,328 --> 02:05:46,914 ♪ Cops said "A poor boy like you could use a break ♪ 2213 02:05:47,331 --> 02:05:50,626 ♪ We got you for the motel job We're talkin' to your friend Bello ♪ 2214 02:05:50,709 --> 02:05:54,171 ♪ You don't wanna have to go back to jail Be a nice fellow ♪ 2215 02:05:54,296 --> 02:05:56,882 ♪ You'll be doin' society a favor ♪ 2216 02:05:57,341 --> 02:06:00,177 ♪That son of a bitch is brave And gettin' braver ♪ 2217 02:06:00,553 --> 02:06:02,680 ♪ We want to put his ass in stir ♪ 2218 02:06:03,764 --> 02:06:07,101 ♪ We want to pin this triple murder On him ♪ 2219 02:06:07,393 --> 02:06:09,853 ♪ He ain't no Gentleman Jim" ♪ 2220 02:06:17,861 --> 02:06:20,614 ♪ All of Rubin's cards were marked In advance ♪ 2221 02:06:20,906 --> 02:06:23,826 ♪ The trial was a pig-circus He never had a chance ♪ 2222 02:06:24,076 --> 02:06:27,121 ♪ The judge made Rubin's witnesses Drunkards from the slums ♪ 2223 02:06:27,204 --> 02:06:30,416 ♪ To the white folks who watched He was a revolutionary bum ♪ 2224 02:06:30,749 --> 02:06:33,377 ♪ And to the black folks He was just a crazy nigger ♪ 2225 02:06:34,128 --> 02:06:36,547 ♪ No one doubted That he pulled the trigger ♪ 2226 02:06:37,172 --> 02:06:39,550 ♪ And though they could not produce The gun ♪ 2227 02:06:40,342 --> 02:06:43,512 ♪ The DA said he was the one Who did the deed ♪ 2228 02:06:43,762 --> 02:06:46,599 ♪ And the all-white jury agreed ♪ 2229 02:06:54,773 --> 02:06:56,984 ♪ Rubin Carter was falsely tried ♪ 2230 02:06:57,401 --> 02:07:00,279 ♪ The crime was murder one Guess who testified? ♪ 2231 02:07:00,946 --> 02:07:03,282 ♪ Bello and Bradley, and they both lied ♪ 2232 02:07:03,741 --> 02:07:06,910 ♪ And the newspapers They all went along for the ride ♪ 2233 02:07:07,286 --> 02:07:09,455 ♪ How can the life of such a man ♪ 2234 02:07:10,539 --> 02:07:13,000 ♪ Be in the palm of some fool's hand? ♪ 2235 02:07:13,459 --> 02:07:15,753 ♪ To see him obviously framed ♪ 2236 02:07:16,837 --> 02:07:20,174 ♪ Couldn't help but make me feel ashamed To live in a land ♪ 2237 02:07:20,507 --> 02:07:23,135 ♪ Where justice is a game ♪ 2238 02:07:30,726 --> 02:07:33,687 ♪ Now all the criminals In their coats and their ties... ♪ 2239 02:07:34,521 --> 02:07:37,858 [Tanner] "Now all the criminals in their coats and ties 2240 02:07:37,941 --> 02:07:41,737 are free to drink martinis and watch the-- and watch the sun rise." 2241 02:07:42,154 --> 02:07:45,282 "While Rubin sits like Buddha in a ten-foot cell, 2242 02:07:45,491 --> 02:07:47,534 an innocent man in a living hell." 2243 02:07:47,743 --> 02:07:49,745 I thought that was great. 2244 02:07:50,204 --> 02:07:53,374 Because the ballad of the Hurricane... 2245 02:07:54,208 --> 02:07:59,463 uh, sent an indelible message of justice gone awry, 2246 02:08:00,089 --> 02:08:01,173 you know what I mean? 2247 02:08:01,298 --> 02:08:02,257 So... So... 2248 02:08:02,508 --> 02:08:07,388 Dylan doing that spread the word far and wide. 2249 02:08:10,265 --> 02:08:12,476 [Dylan] ♪ That's the story of the Hurricane ♪ 2250 02:08:13,394 --> 02:08:15,938 ♪ But it won't be over Till they clear his name ♪ 2251 02:08:16,605 --> 02:08:18,774 ♪ And give him back the time he's done ♪ 2252 02:08:19,692 --> 02:08:23,237 ♪ Put in a prison cell But one time he coulda been ♪ 2253 02:08:23,529 --> 02:08:26,532 ♪ The champion of the world ♪ 2254 02:08:29,827 --> 02:08:31,829 [audience cheers] 2255 02:08:34,456 --> 02:08:35,666 [both speaking indistinctly] 2256 02:08:35,749 --> 02:08:37,376 Let me introduce you to everybody. 2257 02:08:37,459 --> 02:08:38,669 [chuckles, speaks indistinctly] 2258 02:08:38,752 --> 02:08:41,255 [Carter] Many of the people who came to help me were white people, 2259 02:08:41,797 --> 02:08:44,216 which must have surprised the authorities, 2260 02:08:44,299 --> 02:08:47,428 because the authorities claimed that I committed this crime 2261 02:08:47,511 --> 02:08:49,346 because of my hatred for white people. 2262 02:08:49,513 --> 02:08:51,473 But here's all these white folks 2263 02:08:52,099 --> 02:08:54,435 coming to help this poor black man 2264 02:08:54,643 --> 02:08:56,895 who's in prison for something that he didn't do, 2265 02:08:56,979 --> 02:08:59,606 something that he didn't do. I mean, it-- it was great. 2266 02:08:59,982 --> 02:09:02,860 [reporter] What happens if the courts say no, where do you go from there? 2267 02:09:02,943 --> 02:09:05,320 Are you gonna go back into the courts once again? 2268 02:09:05,404 --> 02:09:07,990 If the courts say no, we just keep on fighting. 2269 02:09:08,240 --> 02:09:10,868 There's no such-- There's no such thing as no. 2270 02:09:11,326 --> 02:09:12,578 There's just yes, 2271 02:09:12,661 --> 02:09:15,289 and the road is straight ahead, and we keep on going. 2272 02:09:16,415 --> 02:09:18,083 Bob always been searching. 2273 02:09:18,167 --> 02:09:22,171 Every time I see Bob now, and which we don't see each other frequently, 2274 02:09:22,504 --> 02:09:26,759 but every time I see him, I ask Bob, "Have you found it yet, Bob?" 2275 02:09:27,968 --> 02:09:29,636 And Bob says, "Yeah, I found it." 2276 02:09:30,095 --> 02:09:33,849 But I know he hasn't, 'cause he keeps searching. [laughs] 2277 02:09:35,142 --> 02:09:38,187 [older Dylan] He'd always say, "Hey, what are you searching for today?" 2278 02:09:38,270 --> 02:09:39,354 I'd say, "What?" 2279 02:09:39,438 --> 02:09:42,191 He'd say, "I know you're a searcher. What are you searching for?" 2280 02:09:42,566 --> 02:09:46,528 I'd say, uh, "Well, Hurricane, I'm searching for the Holy Grail." 2281 02:09:46,904 --> 02:09:47,905 And he'd say, "What?" 2282 02:09:48,155 --> 02:09:52,326 I said, "I'm gonna search until I find it, like Sir Galahad." 2283 02:09:54,453 --> 02:09:55,788 That's what I'm looking for. 2284 02:09:56,872 --> 02:09:58,457 [indistinct chatter] 2285 02:09:58,749 --> 02:10:02,628 -[man] Five minutes. Five minutes. -[interviewer] Do you think he's a genius? 2286 02:10:03,462 --> 02:10:05,005 Is Bob Dylan a genius? 2287 02:10:06,423 --> 02:10:08,884 [van Dorp] I don't know. That's a strange word. 2288 02:10:10,052 --> 02:10:10,886 Maybe. 2289 02:10:11,220 --> 02:10:15,140 I think the most brilliant thing he did was putting a group of highly motivated 2290 02:10:15,349 --> 02:10:18,393 and ambitious people on a train with no supervision, 2291 02:10:18,602 --> 02:10:21,939 and then let them become the most extreme versions of themselves. 2292 02:10:22,439 --> 02:10:24,566 [interviewer] Is that how you'd describe what happened? 2293 02:10:24,650 --> 02:10:26,401 I know that's what happened to me. 2294 02:10:26,527 --> 02:10:28,904 -[people laughing] -[man] Let's go. Let's go. 2295 02:10:30,364 --> 02:10:31,198 Let's go. 2296 02:10:31,865 --> 02:10:33,951 [interviewer] So, why did you come here to speak to me? 2297 02:10:34,034 --> 02:10:38,497 [van Dorp] Well, to try and, you know, stake my claim 2298 02:10:38,580 --> 02:10:42,334 and say, "Here I am, this is me. I'm the one who made this. 2299 02:10:42,417 --> 02:10:43,544 You're using it. 2300 02:10:43,961 --> 02:10:47,631 This wouldn't exist without me. I'm the filmmaker here." 2301 02:10:49,132 --> 02:10:52,135 [van Dorp] December 4th, 1975, Montreal, Canada, 2302 02:10:52,219 --> 02:10:54,847 last scheduled concert for the Rolling Thunder Revue. 2303 02:10:55,806 --> 02:11:00,644 We phantoms are assembled at the end of the Rolling Thunder tour. 2304 02:11:00,769 --> 02:11:02,479 [man] Roger? Let's go. Luther? 2305 02:11:02,563 --> 02:11:05,399 [Ginsberg] We started out trying to recover America. 2306 02:11:05,482 --> 02:11:08,318 We discovered a certain amount of truth about ourselves. 2307 02:11:08,777 --> 02:11:11,363 Old friends who thought their loves had been lost 2308 02:11:11,613 --> 02:11:15,325 were able to get together and, uh, face each other eye to eye 2309 02:11:15,617 --> 02:11:17,995 and sing over an electrical microphone 2310 02:11:18,078 --> 02:11:22,332 to please the desires of myriad young yearners, 2311 02:11:22,416 --> 02:11:25,544 who had been seeking some kind of union and community 2312 02:11:25,627 --> 02:11:27,629 and saw therein an image of that community. 2313 02:11:28,755 --> 02:11:30,340 [interviewer] Was the tour a success? 2314 02:11:30,757 --> 02:11:33,427 [Gianopulos] The tour was a disaster, it was a catastrophe. 2315 02:11:33,510 --> 02:11:34,761 -[interviewer] Why? -Well, 2316 02:11:34,845 --> 02:11:37,764 I told 'em we should be playing to 20,000-seaters, 2317 02:11:37,848 --> 02:11:40,559 but instead, you know, they wanted to play all these small joints. 2318 02:11:40,642 --> 02:11:43,645 Now you've got 16 to 18 people onstage, 2319 02:11:43,729 --> 02:11:46,356 and you got 15 people on the back line. 2320 02:11:47,024 --> 02:11:50,485 Buses and hotel rooms and catering, and you're only playing to houses 2321 02:11:50,569 --> 02:11:53,363 with 3,000 seats, so you're gonna hemorrhage money. 2322 02:11:53,447 --> 02:11:55,532 We were in the red before we even got on the road. 2323 02:11:55,616 --> 02:11:57,868 No, it wasn't a success. 2324 02:11:58,619 --> 02:12:00,954 Not if you measure success in terms of profit. 2325 02:12:02,247 --> 02:12:03,916 But it was a sense of adventure. 2326 02:12:05,208 --> 02:12:09,379 So, in many ways, yes, it was very successful. 2327 02:12:10,797 --> 02:12:11,840 [Ronson] Let's go. 2328 02:12:12,758 --> 02:12:14,009 [Dylan] Time to go. 2329 02:12:14,760 --> 02:12:17,721 -[man 1] Come on. We're on. -[man 2] Yeah, Rob, you look pretty. 2330 02:12:17,930 --> 02:12:20,641 ["Knocking on Heaven's Door" playing] 2331 02:12:22,392 --> 02:12:24,561 [older Dylan] What remains of that tour to this day? 2332 02:12:24,645 --> 02:12:25,479 Nothing. 2333 02:12:26,855 --> 02:12:28,106 Not one single thing. 2334 02:12:28,690 --> 02:12:29,524 Ashes. 2335 02:12:33,236 --> 02:12:37,240 ♪ Mama, wipe the blood off of my face ♪ 2336 02:12:40,911 --> 02:12:44,164 ♪ I can't see through it anymore ♪ 2337 02:12:47,584 --> 02:12:51,922 ♪ I need someone to talk to And a new hiding place ♪ 2338 02:12:55,676 --> 02:12:59,221 ♪ I feel like I'm knockin' On heaven's door ♪ 2339 02:13:02,975 --> 02:13:06,561 ♪ Knock, knock, knockin' On heaven's door ♪ 2340 02:13:10,315 --> 02:13:13,944 ♪ Knock, knock, knockin' On heaven's door ♪ 2341 02:13:17,656 --> 02:13:21,952 ♪ Knock, knock, knockin' On heaven's door ♪ 2342 02:13:24,955 --> 02:13:29,209 ♪ Knock, knock, knockin' On heaven's door ♪ 2343 02:13:32,421 --> 02:13:35,674 ♪ Mama, I can hear that thunder roll ♪ 2344 02:13:39,803 --> 02:13:43,473 ♪ Echoing down from God's distant shore ♪ 2345 02:13:46,852 --> 02:13:50,856 ♪ I can hear Him calling out for my soul ♪ 2346 02:13:54,317 --> 02:13:57,863 ♪ l feel I'm knocking on heaven's door ♪ 2347 02:14:01,867 --> 02:14:05,620 ♪ Knock, knock, knockin' On heaven's door ♪ 2348 02:14:09,249 --> 02:14:13,503 ♪ Knock, knock, knockin' On heaven's door ♪ 2349 02:14:16,673 --> 02:14:21,053 ♪ Knock, knock, knockin' On heaven's door ♪ 2350 02:14:23,930 --> 02:14:28,643 ♪ Knock, knock, knockin' On heaven's door ♪ 2351 02:14:51,374 --> 02:14:55,212 You who saw it all, or saw flashes and fragments, 2352 02:14:55,629 --> 02:14:58,173 take from us some example, 2353 02:14:58,256 --> 02:15:00,467 try and get yourselves together, 2354 02:15:00,550 --> 02:15:03,345 clean up your act, find your community, 2355 02:15:03,637 --> 02:15:07,182 pick up on some kind of redemption of your own consciousness, 2356 02:15:07,432 --> 02:15:10,018 become more mindful of your own friends, 2357 02:15:10,102 --> 02:15:11,186 your own work, 2358 02:15:11,269 --> 02:15:13,063 your own proper meditation, 2359 02:15:13,146 --> 02:15:14,397 your own proper art, 2360 02:15:14,481 --> 02:15:15,482 your own beauty. 2361 02:15:15,607 --> 02:15:18,819 Go out and make it for your own eternity. 2362 02:15:23,115 --> 02:15:27,786 ♪ Knock, knock, knockin' On heaven's door ♪ 2363 02:15:30,580 --> 02:15:35,001 ♪ Knock, knock, knockin' On heaven's door ♪ 2364 02:15:37,754 --> 02:15:42,717 ♪ Knock, knock, knockin' On heaven's door ♪ 2365 02:15:45,178 --> 02:15:50,142 ♪ Knock, knock, knockin' On heaven's door ♪ 2366 02:15:53,019 --> 02:15:54,437 ["The Water is Wide" playing] 2367 02:15:54,521 --> 02:15:59,317 [Dylan and Baez] ♪ The water is wide ♪ 2368 02:15:59,568 --> 02:16:02,529 ♪ And I can't cross over ♪ 2369 02:16:05,949 --> 02:16:09,911 ♪ I've neither wings ♪ 2370 02:16:11,246 --> 02:16:16,001 ♪ That I could fly ♪ 2371 02:16:16,376 --> 02:16:21,131 ♪ Build me a boat ♪ 2372 02:16:21,882 --> 02:16:26,136 ♪ That can carry two ♪ 2373 02:16:27,387 --> 02:16:30,891 ♪ And both shall row ♪ 2374 02:16:33,059 --> 02:16:37,731 ♪ My love and I ♪ 2375 02:16:46,364 --> 02:16:50,785 ♪ There is a ship ♪ 2376 02:16:51,536 --> 02:16:54,372 ♪ And it sails on the sea ♪ 2377 02:16:57,709 --> 02:17:01,713 ♪ Loaded deep ♪ 2378 02:17:02,464 --> 02:17:07,052 ♪ As deep can be ♪ 2379 02:17:07,802 --> 02:17:12,515 ♪ But not as deep ♪ 2380 02:17:13,058 --> 02:17:17,854 ♪ As the love I'm in ♪ 2381 02:17:18,563 --> 02:17:21,816 ♪ And both shall row ♪ 2382 02:17:23,777 --> 02:17:29,741 ♪ My love and I ♪ 2383 02:17:31,660 --> 02:17:35,163 [audience applauds] 2384 02:17:55,517 --> 02:17:57,519 -[crowd cheering] -[man] Bob! 2385 02:18:00,146 --> 02:18:01,898 [woman] Encore! 2386 02:18:02,107 --> 02:18:04,484 [crowd applauding and cheering] 2387 02:18:05,443 --> 02:18:07,737 ["Romance In Durango" playing] 2388 02:18:08,113 --> 02:18:10,407 ♪ Hot chili peppers In the blistering sun ♪ 2389 02:18:13,326 --> 02:18:16,121 ♪ Dust on my face and my cape ♪ 2390 02:18:18,790 --> 02:18:21,710 ♪ Me and Magdalena on the run ♪ 2391 02:18:24,212 --> 02:18:27,924 ♪ I think this time we shall escape ♪ 2392 02:18:29,384 --> 02:18:32,429 ♪ Sold my guitar to the baker's son ♪ 2393 02:18:34,889 --> 02:18:38,685 ♪ For a few crumbs and a place to hide ♪ 2394 02:18:40,312 --> 02:18:43,189 ♪ But I can get another one ♪ 2395 02:18:45,191 --> 02:18:49,279 ♪ And I'll play for Magdalena as we ride ♪ 2396 02:18:50,322 --> 02:18:53,033 ♪ No llores, mi querida ♪ 2397 02:18:53,825 --> 02:18:55,535 ♪ Dios nos vigila ♪ 2398 02:18:56,036 --> 02:18:59,873 ♪ Soon the horse will take us to Durango ♪ 2399 02:19:00,498 --> 02:19:03,251 ♪ Agárrame, mi vida ♪ 2400 02:19:03,460 --> 02:19:05,545 ♪ Soon the desert will be gone ♪ 2401 02:19:06,171 --> 02:19:09,924 ♪ Soon you will be dancing the fandango ♪ 2402 02:19:21,144 --> 02:19:24,189 ♪ Past the Aztec ruins And the ghosts of our people ♪ 2403 02:19:26,066 --> 02:19:29,444 ♪ Hoofbeats like castanets on stone ♪ 2404 02:19:30,612 --> 02:19:33,823 ♪ At night, I dream of bells In the village steeple ♪ 2405 02:19:35,367 --> 02:19:39,287 ♪ Then I see the bloody face of Ramon ♪ 2406 02:19:40,372 --> 02:19:43,666 ♪ Was it me that shot him down In the cantina? ♪ 2407 02:19:45,960 --> 02:19:49,130 ♪ Was it my hand that held the gun? ♪ 2408 02:19:50,799 --> 02:19:53,635 ♪ Come let us fly, my Magdalena ♪ 2409 02:19:55,428 --> 02:19:58,640 ♪ The dogs are barking And what's done is done ♪ 2410 02:19:59,849 --> 02:20:02,727 ♪ No llores, mi querida ♪ 2411 02:20:03,269 --> 02:20:05,021 ♪ Dios nos vigila ♪ 2412 02:20:05,647 --> 02:20:09,025 ♪ Soon the horse will take us to Durango ♪ 2413 02:20:09,818 --> 02:20:12,362 ♪ Agárrame, mi vida ♪ 2414 02:20:12,445 --> 02:20:14,656 ♪ Soon the desert will be gone ♪ 2415 02:20:15,240 --> 02:20:18,743 ♪ Soon you will be dancing the fandango ♪ 2416 02:20:29,212 --> 02:20:32,465 ♪ At the corrida, we'll sit in the shade ♪ 2417 02:20:34,008 --> 02:20:37,345 ♪ And watch the young torero stand alone ♪ 2418 02:20:39,013 --> 02:20:42,308 ♪ Drank tequila Where our grandfathers stayed ♪ 2419 02:20:43,393 --> 02:20:46,896 ♪ When they rode with Villa into Torreón ♪ 2420 02:20:48,356 --> 02:20:51,901 ♪ And the padre will recite The prayers of old ♪ 2421 02:20:53,194 --> 02:20:56,948 ♪ In the little church this side of town ♪ 2422 02:20:57,991 --> 02:21:01,453 ♪ I'll wear new boots And an earring of gold ♪ 2423 02:21:02,662 --> 02:21:06,458 ♪ You'll shine with diamonds In your wedding gown ♪ 2424 02:21:08,126 --> 02:21:10,962 ♪ Was that the thunder that I heard? ♪ 2425 02:21:12,797 --> 02:21:15,842 ♪ My head is vibrating I feel a sharp pain ♪ 2426 02:21:17,385 --> 02:21:20,138 ♪ Come sit by me, don't say a word ♪ 2427 02:21:22,182 --> 02:21:25,393 ♪ Oh, can it be that I am slain? ♪ 2428 02:21:26,895 --> 02:21:29,397 ♪ Quick, Magdalena, take my gun ♪ 2429 02:21:31,608 --> 02:21:34,819 ♪ Look up in the hills That flash of light ♪ 2430 02:21:34,903 --> 02:21:36,112 [man whoops] 2431 02:21:36,529 --> 02:21:39,157 ♪ Aim well, my little one ♪ 2432 02:21:41,117 --> 02:21:44,621 ♪ We may not make it through the night ♪ 2433 02:21:52,587 --> 02:21:55,465 [audience applauds and cheers] 105838