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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:11,278 --> 00:00:16,214 This thing is massive, never was a living person. 2 00:00:16,216 --> 00:00:20,085 Hate to think this, but I think maybe it wants to kill me. 3 00:00:20,087 --> 00:00:24,355 This shadow person is feeding. 4 00:00:24,357 --> 00:00:27,158 Seem a little on edge. You okay? 5 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:29,160 You are going to be attacked. 6 00:00:29,162 --> 00:00:31,095 This was supposed to be my dream. 7 00:00:31,097 --> 00:00:35,566 It's just really fallen apart. 8 00:00:35,568 --> 00:00:39,170 It'll kill this person. 9 00:00:39,172 --> 00:00:41,773 And I just feel fear. 10 00:00:41,775 --> 00:00:43,641 My name is Amy Allan. 11 00:00:43,643 --> 00:00:45,109 This is like 12 00:00:45,111 --> 00:00:46,911 Grand Central Station for the dead. 13 00:00:46,913 --> 00:00:48,112 I see dead people. 14 00:00:48,114 --> 00:00:50,314 They have pain that they suffered. 15 00:00:50,316 --> 00:00:52,249 I speak to dead people. 16 00:00:52,251 --> 00:00:55,053 She hates them, hates them. 17 00:00:55,055 --> 00:00:59,257 And they speak to me, but there's only one way to know 18 00:00:59,259 --> 00:01:00,992 if my findings are real. 19 00:01:00,994 --> 00:01:02,259 It's a demon. 20 00:01:02,261 --> 00:01:04,395 It's Satan. 21 00:01:04,397 --> 00:01:05,996 I rely on my partner. 22 00:01:05,998 --> 00:01:07,465 I'm Steve Di Schiavi. 23 00:01:07,467 --> 00:01:09,733 I'm a retired New York City homicide detective. 24 00:01:09,735 --> 00:01:11,069 What was the body count? What happened? 25 00:01:11,071 --> 00:01:14,873 And I know every person, every house has secrets. 26 00:01:14,875 --> 00:01:16,073 I don't know if it's a demon or not, 27 00:01:16,075 --> 00:01:17,809 but it sure as hell looks like one. 28 00:01:17,811 --> 00:01:19,410 It's my job to reveal them. 29 00:01:19,412 --> 00:01:21,946 I feel like I'm crazy. 30 00:01:21,948 --> 00:01:23,747 But Steve and I never speak... 31 00:01:23,749 --> 00:01:25,817 We never communicate during an investigation. 32 00:01:25,819 --> 00:01:27,218 ...until the very end. 33 00:01:27,220 --> 00:01:29,153 I don't want to show you this. 34 00:01:29,155 --> 00:01:31,422 When we uncover if it's safe for you to stay. 35 00:01:31,424 --> 00:01:33,825 I just don't want anything to happen to my mother. 36 00:01:33,827 --> 00:01:35,359 Or time to get out. 37 00:01:35,361 --> 00:01:36,961 You have to get out. 38 00:01:50,042 --> 00:01:51,709 I'm up here in Hartford, Wisconsin. 39 00:01:51,711 --> 00:01:54,044 It's about an hour north of Milwaukee. 40 00:01:54,046 --> 00:01:55,580 Got a call from a mom named Carole. 41 00:01:55,582 --> 00:01:58,315 Now, she recently fulfilled her lifelong dream 42 00:01:58,317 --> 00:02:00,718 moving her family out to a horse farm. 43 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:02,987 She says it's been nothing but a disaster. 44 00:02:02,989 --> 00:02:04,189 No one's safe. 45 00:02:04,191 --> 00:02:05,590 It's getting worse by the day, 46 00:02:05,592 --> 00:02:07,926 and she says if Amy and I can't fix it, 47 00:02:07,928 --> 00:02:12,730 somebody's gonna get killed. 48 00:02:12,732 --> 00:02:15,333 I can't hide the fact that this is a horse farm, 49 00:02:15,335 --> 00:02:17,401 but I still need to cover leading information 50 00:02:17,403 --> 00:02:21,739 like artwork, religious symbols, and family photos 51 00:02:21,741 --> 00:02:25,409 that could influence Amy's findings. 52 00:02:25,411 --> 00:02:28,947 When I'm done, the location will be ready for tonight's walk. 53 00:02:46,500 --> 00:02:49,968 I'm seeing a living woman. 54 00:02:49,970 --> 00:02:54,572 She's getting attacked by the land, 55 00:02:54,574 --> 00:02:56,373 like, swallowed up in the ground. 56 00:02:56,375 --> 00:02:57,975 She is overwhelmed. 57 00:02:57,977 --> 00:03:00,311 The earth is wanting to absorb her. 58 00:03:00,313 --> 00:03:01,779 He wants to kill her. 59 00:03:11,057 --> 00:03:13,124 So, Carole, I appreciate you showing me around the property. 60 00:03:13,126 --> 00:03:15,526 I mean, it's absolutely beautiful here. 61 00:03:15,528 --> 00:03:17,395 But when we spoke on the phone originally, 62 00:03:17,397 --> 00:03:18,796 you were very upset by what's happened, 63 00:03:18,798 --> 00:03:20,931 so tell me what's going on here. 64 00:03:20,933 --> 00:03:22,667 It's really horrible here. 65 00:03:22,669 --> 00:03:25,737 Something is attacking my family, 66 00:03:25,739 --> 00:03:27,939 and we don't feel safe here. 67 00:03:27,941 --> 00:03:29,874 So, Carole, I'm curious. 68 00:03:29,876 --> 00:03:31,208 What's with the horses? 69 00:03:31,210 --> 00:03:32,810 It's something that I've always wanted to do 70 00:03:32,812 --> 00:03:34,212 was have my own farm, 71 00:03:34,214 --> 00:03:39,150 so I could have my horses at home and... 72 00:03:39,152 --> 00:03:43,554 this is always what I've wanted to do, 73 00:03:43,556 --> 00:03:45,957 and it's just been a nightmare. 74 00:03:45,959 --> 00:03:47,492 I understand. 75 00:03:47,494 --> 00:03:52,296 It's kind of a huge price to pay for my dream. 76 00:03:52,298 --> 00:03:56,968 Okay, so, now, who all lives in the house? 77 00:03:56,970 --> 00:03:59,103 My husband, my daughter, and I. 78 00:03:59,105 --> 00:04:00,437 Okay, how old is your daughter? 79 00:04:00,439 --> 00:04:01,772 15. 80 00:04:01,774 --> 00:04:03,241 So, Carole, if you can, do me a favor 81 00:04:03,243 --> 00:04:04,775 and just give me an idea of 82 00:04:04,777 --> 00:04:06,444 a rundown of what's going on here. 83 00:04:06,446 --> 00:04:08,846 There's activity pretty much every day. 84 00:04:08,848 --> 00:04:10,782 Objects move on their own. 85 00:04:10,784 --> 00:04:13,784 Our electronics turn on and off on their own. 86 00:04:13,786 --> 00:04:18,522 We see shadow figures in the barn and in the house. 87 00:04:18,524 --> 00:04:21,859 How's it been affecting you, the family? 88 00:04:21,861 --> 00:04:24,262 It's been really hard on my marriage. 89 00:04:24,264 --> 00:04:27,331 Little things can set us off. 90 00:04:27,333 --> 00:04:30,601 I feel very guilty because I wanted this. 91 00:04:30,603 --> 00:04:33,071 I'm not sure how my husband ever felt, 92 00:04:33,073 --> 00:04:34,739 but he's always supported me. 93 00:04:34,741 --> 00:04:36,874 I try to, like, minimize it for Ashley 94 00:04:36,876 --> 00:04:40,678 because I try not to feed into her fear. 95 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,014 Okay. It's tough enough being a teenager. 96 00:04:43,016 --> 00:04:44,415 Yeah. 97 00:04:44,417 --> 00:04:46,217 You know any history about the property 98 00:04:46,219 --> 00:04:47,818 that might help my investigation? 99 00:04:47,820 --> 00:04:49,687 I've heard from the neighbors 100 00:04:49,689 --> 00:04:52,423 that a woman committed suicide on the property, 101 00:04:52,425 --> 00:04:54,358 but long before we owned it. 102 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:55,959 All right, I'll look into that. 103 00:04:55,961 --> 00:04:58,029 Well, I'm curious as to what you think is here. 104 00:04:58,031 --> 00:05:01,165 I just think it's something really dark and really evil. 105 00:05:01,167 --> 00:05:03,901 It likes us to be unhappy. 106 00:05:03,903 --> 00:05:08,439 I think it wants us to either leave, 107 00:05:08,441 --> 00:05:10,774 or it wants to hurt us. 108 00:05:13,379 --> 00:05:17,381 This living woman, I was getting her feelings. 109 00:05:17,383 --> 00:05:20,718 She was feeling stuck, feeling overwhelmed with this, 110 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,387 like, maybe thinking it's too much for her here. 111 00:05:23,389 --> 00:05:27,258 What I saw was, like, she's standing on this land, 112 00:05:27,260 --> 00:05:29,594 and it's like quicksand. 113 00:05:29,596 --> 00:05:35,399 It's up to her thighs, and it's causing her heart 114 00:05:35,401 --> 00:05:37,735 and/or breathing issues 115 00:05:37,737 --> 00:05:43,407 and possibly something with her blood or circulation. 116 00:05:43,409 --> 00:05:45,609 She feels like she's alone. 117 00:05:45,611 --> 00:05:47,878 She's got to be worried about all this stuff. 118 00:05:54,287 --> 00:05:57,154 So, Carole, what's going on in here? 119 00:05:57,156 --> 00:05:59,957 Well, the other day, we had a picture frame 120 00:05:59,959 --> 00:06:03,094 just go flying off the piano pretty much across the room, 121 00:06:03,096 --> 00:06:04,995 and it hit the floor. 122 00:06:04,997 --> 00:06:06,297 Piano looks level. 123 00:06:06,299 --> 00:06:08,766 Was it fixed, or has it always been that level? 124 00:06:08,768 --> 00:06:11,101 It's always been like that, that I know of. 125 00:06:11,103 --> 00:06:12,970 All right, so you got pictures flying off the piano. 126 00:06:12,972 --> 00:06:14,172 Anything else? 127 00:06:14,174 --> 00:06:16,907 I was just sitting on the couch relaxing, 128 00:06:16,909 --> 00:06:19,844 and I noticed that the light turned on in the bathroom. 129 00:06:19,846 --> 00:06:20,978 Was anybody else home? 130 00:06:20,980 --> 00:06:22,113 No, I was alone. 131 00:06:22,115 --> 00:06:23,181 Did you ever have an electrician come out 132 00:06:23,183 --> 00:06:24,449 and check this stuff out? 133 00:06:24,451 --> 00:06:26,984 Yes. We have had all the electrical updated 134 00:06:26,986 --> 00:06:28,986 on the property and the house. 135 00:06:28,988 --> 00:06:30,454 All right. So anything else? 136 00:06:30,456 --> 00:06:33,657 The other day, my daughter and I were sitting on the couch, 137 00:06:33,659 --> 00:06:37,795 and the TV just turned on by itself. 138 00:06:37,797 --> 00:06:39,530 You leave the remote lying around? 139 00:06:39,532 --> 00:06:42,066 We had it sitting on the coffee table in front of us. 140 00:06:42,068 --> 00:06:45,669 It wasn't where, like, we could touch it or the dogs. 141 00:06:45,671 --> 00:06:46,871 It terrified my daughter. 142 00:06:46,873 --> 00:06:49,874 She ended up not even being able to sleep that night, 143 00:06:49,876 --> 00:06:51,876 she was so scared. 144 00:06:58,284 --> 00:07:02,153 Dear. 145 00:07:02,155 --> 00:07:04,888 I'm just seeing this living woman, like, losing her 146 00:07:04,890 --> 00:07:09,293 **** down here, just coming down here to, like, vent. 147 00:07:09,295 --> 00:07:14,131 Things might happen for her down here -- 148 00:07:14,133 --> 00:07:18,569 objects moving, doors shaking, 149 00:07:18,571 --> 00:07:20,772 electronics malfunctioning, 150 00:07:20,774 --> 00:07:24,709 light bulbs going out, TV stuff. 151 00:07:24,711 --> 00:07:28,245 But I do feel like she's a PK agent, 152 00:07:28,247 --> 00:07:30,714 you know, the typical things that happen with, 153 00:07:30,716 --> 00:07:34,852 like, poltergeist activity. 154 00:07:34,854 --> 00:07:37,454 You know, I don't know what's going on with these headaches. 155 00:07:45,331 --> 00:07:47,198 So what's going on? 156 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:50,133 Well, I have really weird health issues here. 157 00:07:50,135 --> 00:07:51,535 Okay, like what? 158 00:07:51,537 --> 00:07:54,271 I just feel like I'm being drained all the time. 159 00:07:54,273 --> 00:07:56,007 I get really bad headaches. 160 00:07:56,009 --> 00:07:59,209 I don't know if that's paranormal or not, 161 00:07:59,211 --> 00:08:00,745 but you seem to think it is. 162 00:08:00,747 --> 00:08:04,615 Yes, only because I've never had that before. 163 00:08:04,617 --> 00:08:05,950 Okay, anything else? 164 00:08:05,952 --> 00:08:07,217 I get scratched a lot. 165 00:08:07,219 --> 00:08:10,822 I have picture of some of them. 166 00:08:12,558 --> 00:08:15,492 This ain't an allergic reaction, obviously, to anything. 167 00:08:16,762 --> 00:08:19,163 Anything in the bed that could cause the scratches? 168 00:08:19,165 --> 00:08:20,765 I don't think so, no. 169 00:08:20,767 --> 00:08:21,966 Anything else? 170 00:08:21,968 --> 00:08:24,702 I have seen shadows in this room. 171 00:08:24,704 --> 00:08:26,103 So when you're seeing the shadow figures, 172 00:08:26,105 --> 00:08:27,638 what exactly is it looking like? 173 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,508 It's like darkness, like, really pitch darkness. 174 00:08:30,510 --> 00:08:32,776 You open your eyes, and it's as black as, like, 175 00:08:32,778 --> 00:08:34,378 there's no light at all. 176 00:08:34,380 --> 00:08:37,314 When that happens, it's really bad. 177 00:08:37,316 --> 00:08:39,784 Like, I really have a hard time breathing 178 00:08:39,786 --> 00:08:41,719 when that shadow is here, 179 00:08:41,721 --> 00:08:43,587 and it feels, like, really heavy like something's 180 00:08:43,589 --> 00:08:46,590 almost pressing down on you when you're trying to sleep. 181 00:08:46,592 --> 00:08:48,259 The hell you think that is and what it wants? 182 00:08:48,261 --> 00:08:51,328 Hate to think this, but I think maybe it wants to kill me. 183 00:08:56,469 --> 00:09:00,538 I don't like this 184 00:09:00,540 --> 00:09:03,541 at all. 185 00:09:03,543 --> 00:09:09,880 There was a shadow thing here, 186 00:09:09,882 --> 00:09:11,282 and then it sat up, 187 00:09:11,284 --> 00:09:14,551 and then it slid right under there, 188 00:09:14,553 --> 00:09:18,356 and it made me feel like sick, 189 00:09:18,358 --> 00:09:20,691 and it **** felt evil. 190 00:09:20,693 --> 00:09:22,627 I don't like that. 191 00:09:22,629 --> 00:09:26,697 It never was a living person, real shadow person. 192 00:09:26,699 --> 00:09:29,633 But a person in here, 193 00:09:29,635 --> 00:09:32,904 this is already a sick person, 194 00:09:32,906 --> 00:09:36,707 and then this shadow person is feeding. 195 00:09:38,978 --> 00:09:44,382 It's, like, taking in their energy and... 196 00:09:44,384 --> 00:09:49,186 all, like, their breath, making her sick. 197 00:09:49,188 --> 00:09:52,323 - Is this the person with PK? - Yes. 198 00:09:52,325 --> 00:09:53,591 And so what kind of experiences 199 00:09:53,593 --> 00:09:55,593 would they be having with all this? 200 00:09:55,595 --> 00:09:59,663 This person would feel having episodes of waking up, 201 00:09:59,665 --> 00:10:03,267 like, you know, with shortness of breath. 202 00:10:03,269 --> 00:10:06,203 This shadow person makes them feel smothered, 203 00:10:06,205 --> 00:10:08,939 basically sucking the life out of them. 204 00:10:08,941 --> 00:10:11,408 Because they're already weak, 205 00:10:11,410 --> 00:10:15,546 it'll kill this person. 206 00:10:40,889 --> 00:10:42,622 So, Ashley, your mom tells me 207 00:10:42,624 --> 00:10:44,958 about all the stuff going on in the house.- 208 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,894 Okay. It's pretty scary stuff, right? Yeah. 209 00:10:47,896 --> 00:10:50,830 She's pretty worried about you. Has she told you that? 210 00:10:50,832 --> 00:10:54,434 Yes, and I'm really, really worried about her, actually. 211 00:10:54,436 --> 00:10:56,369 I'm just scared it's gonna go too far, 212 00:10:56,371 --> 00:10:59,705 and it'll take her away. 213 00:10:59,707 --> 00:11:03,042 I'm actually really scared about losing her. 214 00:11:03,044 --> 00:11:05,845 Okay. You seem a little on edge. 215 00:11:05,847 --> 00:11:06,913 You okay? 216 00:11:06,915 --> 00:11:08,315 Yeah, I just have a bit of anxiety. 217 00:11:08,317 --> 00:11:09,382 I apologize. 218 00:11:09,384 --> 00:11:10,650 That's okay. 219 00:11:10,652 --> 00:11:12,185 So, Ashley, when I was talking to Mom, 220 00:11:12,187 --> 00:11:15,321 she was telling me that she deals with bad headaches, 221 00:11:15,323 --> 00:11:17,390 trouble breathing, feeling drained. 222 00:11:17,392 --> 00:11:19,058 Are you feeling any of those things? 223 00:11:19,060 --> 00:11:21,261 I'm actually feeling all of them. Okay. 224 00:11:21,263 --> 00:11:23,529 I just want to talk about any other experiences 225 00:11:23,531 --> 00:11:25,197 you might have had. 226 00:11:25,199 --> 00:11:27,400 Well, I've been seeing shadows in the hallway. 227 00:11:27,402 --> 00:11:28,735 You've seen them from your bedroom? 228 00:11:28,737 --> 00:11:31,004 Yes, I usually see them from my bedroom. 229 00:11:31,006 --> 00:11:32,405 Okay, what kind of shadows are we talking about? 230 00:11:32,407 --> 00:11:35,608 They look like blobs, like, shapeless blobs. 231 00:11:35,610 --> 00:11:36,876 What do you think they're doing? 232 00:11:36,878 --> 00:11:39,412 I just feel like they're watching me usually. 233 00:11:39,414 --> 00:11:41,615 So I was talking to your mom, and she was having some issues 234 00:11:41,617 --> 00:11:44,684 with a shadow-type figure in her room. 235 00:11:44,686 --> 00:11:45,819 Do you think it could be the same thing 236 00:11:45,821 --> 00:11:47,353 that you're seeing, by any chance, 237 00:11:47,355 --> 00:11:49,155 that might be going into Mom's room? 238 00:11:49,157 --> 00:11:51,958 Think so. It scares me. 239 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:53,627 - Okay. All right. Relax. - I'm sorry. 240 00:11:53,629 --> 00:11:55,896 It's all right. Relax, relax. 241 00:11:55,898 --> 00:11:57,964 Nobody's gonna hurt you while I'm here, okay? 242 00:11:57,966 --> 00:11:59,633 Thank you. 243 00:11:59,635 --> 00:12:01,367 Okay, is there anything else, honey? 244 00:12:01,369 --> 00:12:03,637 I've been shoved, actually. 245 00:12:03,639 --> 00:12:05,238 Okay, where have you been shoved? 246 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:06,906 In bed, when I'm laying down. 247 00:12:06,908 --> 00:12:09,442 I'll basically be almost, like, nearly asleep, 248 00:12:09,444 --> 00:12:12,645 and then I just feel this, like, kind of rough shove. 249 00:12:12,647 --> 00:12:14,514 Does it feel like an adult is touching you? 250 00:12:14,516 --> 00:12:15,715 Yes. 251 00:12:15,717 --> 00:12:17,050 Okay, anything else? 252 00:12:17,052 --> 00:12:19,786 Well, I've also heard banging on the walls. 253 00:12:19,788 --> 00:12:21,588 Now, have you ever gone by the door 254 00:12:21,590 --> 00:12:23,523 and looked out to see what's there? 255 00:12:23,525 --> 00:12:25,258 No. I've been too scared. 256 00:12:25,260 --> 00:12:26,392 I don't blame you. 257 00:12:26,394 --> 00:12:28,728 You have any idea what it could be? 258 00:12:28,730 --> 00:12:33,066 Well, I think probably something malevolent or demonic, maybe. 259 00:12:36,471 --> 00:12:38,872 There is a thing here. 260 00:12:38,874 --> 00:12:40,073 This thing is massive. 261 00:12:40,075 --> 00:12:42,275 It has, like, legs. 262 00:12:42,277 --> 00:12:45,345 It's moving, but it feels like some kind of, like, 263 00:12:45,347 --> 00:12:49,215 a animal or something, like a big elephant. 264 00:12:49,217 --> 00:12:53,019 It's like a massive moving energy. 265 00:12:53,021 --> 00:12:56,422 It's protecting the ground. 266 00:12:56,424 --> 00:12:58,558 So is it doing anything to the living? 267 00:12:58,560 --> 00:13:02,629 I feel like the living would feel it. 268 00:13:02,631 --> 00:13:04,431 They would hear it. 269 00:13:07,835 --> 00:13:13,573 This is causing real fear, and it's not good. 270 00:13:13,575 --> 00:13:17,309 There's definitely freaking out about noises. 271 00:13:17,311 --> 00:13:20,914 They are hearing the thing outside. 272 00:13:20,916 --> 00:13:23,383 Feels like, you know, the house is shaking. 273 00:13:26,855 --> 00:13:29,588 Feel like there's illness in here, too. 274 00:13:29,590 --> 00:13:31,725 This person in here, 275 00:13:31,727 --> 00:13:35,662 they have headaches, wicked. 276 00:13:35,664 --> 00:13:39,399 The person in here 277 00:13:39,401 --> 00:13:42,001 has a shadow-person issue. 278 00:13:42,003 --> 00:13:44,604 They are not having direct interaction 279 00:13:44,606 --> 00:13:46,940 with a shadow person, 280 00:13:46,942 --> 00:13:50,810 but they see the shadow person watching them. 281 00:13:56,818 --> 00:13:58,951 So, Grant, I was talking to your wife earlier today.- 282 00:13:58,953 --> 00:14:01,354 She thinks that whatever is here is pretty dangerous. 283 00:14:01,356 --> 00:14:03,423 I mean, you agree with that at all? I do. 284 00:14:03,425 --> 00:14:05,224 Before I moved here, I was pretty skeptical, 285 00:14:05,226 --> 00:14:07,360 but I'm convinced there's something here, 286 00:14:07,362 --> 00:14:09,028 and it's paranormal. 287 00:14:09,030 --> 00:14:11,030 Like, I don't have any doubts. 288 00:14:11,032 --> 00:14:12,565 Any experiences you could tell me about? 289 00:14:12,567 --> 00:14:16,302 Yeah, I heard a loud, aggressive bang on the side of the house. 290 00:14:16,304 --> 00:14:18,505 Okay, can you describe how bad it was? 291 00:14:18,507 --> 00:14:21,974 Yeah. 292 00:14:21,976 --> 00:14:23,443 - That loud? - That loud. 293 00:14:23,445 --> 00:14:24,844 And I went outside. 294 00:14:24,846 --> 00:14:26,245 There was absolutely nothing around. 295 00:14:26,247 --> 00:14:27,914 No indication of somebody trying to break in? 296 00:14:27,916 --> 00:14:29,649 - No. - Anything else? 297 00:14:29,651 --> 00:14:32,585 Whatever is here is affecting me mentally, I believe. 298 00:14:32,587 --> 00:14:33,853 Okay, in what way? 299 00:14:33,855 --> 00:14:35,254 My attitude and my mood swings 300 00:14:35,256 --> 00:14:39,726 have been just off the charts since I moved here. 301 00:14:39,728 --> 00:14:41,127 What are you experiencing? 302 00:14:41,129 --> 00:14:45,732 I just have a very short temper, and I also cannot concentrate 303 00:14:45,734 --> 00:14:48,001 on doing things like I used to before I came here. 304 00:14:48,003 --> 00:14:50,069 I lose track of thought, scattered, 305 00:14:50,071 --> 00:14:51,871 and it just drives me nuts. 306 00:14:51,873 --> 00:14:53,739 Your wife, she was mentioning there's some other stuff 307 00:14:53,741 --> 00:14:56,409 going on like bad headaches and feeling drained. 308 00:14:56,411 --> 00:14:57,543 Are you having any of that? 309 00:14:57,545 --> 00:15:00,413 Yeah, headaches and feeling very tired 310 00:15:00,415 --> 00:15:01,815 all the time when I'm home. 311 00:15:01,817 --> 00:15:04,150 What do you think its intention is? 312 00:15:04,152 --> 00:15:07,953 I have a feeling it just wants to make everybody unhappy 313 00:15:07,955 --> 00:15:09,355 and wants us to leave. 314 00:15:09,357 --> 00:15:11,290 I think it wants to destroy my marriage. 315 00:15:15,296 --> 00:15:19,232 The energy is extremely intense 316 00:15:19,234 --> 00:15:21,901 where the house is and beyond, 317 00:15:21,903 --> 00:15:27,373 so I'm thinking that there is kind of, like, a weird, 318 00:15:27,375 --> 00:15:30,443 like, vortex kind of thing 319 00:15:30,445 --> 00:15:34,847 going on over there. 320 00:15:34,849 --> 00:15:37,449 That might be causing the headaches, 321 00:15:37,451 --> 00:15:41,720 probably the nausea, the vertigo. 322 00:15:41,722 --> 00:15:45,724 Where's this vortex? 323 00:15:45,726 --> 00:15:46,859 That a way. 324 00:15:46,861 --> 00:15:48,194 Would being in this kind of proximity 325 00:15:48,196 --> 00:15:50,396 to a vortex have an affect on the living? 326 00:15:50,398 --> 00:15:53,199 Yes, it can do a lot of things. 327 00:15:53,201 --> 00:15:56,202 It can enhance abilities. 328 00:15:56,204 --> 00:16:01,074 It can make you have insomnia. 329 00:16:01,076 --> 00:16:05,011 The earth is hurting the woman. 330 00:16:05,013 --> 00:16:07,146 It might want her. 331 00:16:07,148 --> 00:16:09,148 If it gets her, what would happen? 332 00:16:09,150 --> 00:16:10,283 She'd die. 333 00:16:28,669 --> 00:16:31,003 So Carole told me she thought there was a suicide 334 00:16:31,005 --> 00:16:33,205 on her property before she owned it. 335 00:16:33,207 --> 00:16:36,008 Now, clients get this stuff wrong all the time, 336 00:16:36,010 --> 00:16:38,544 but I asked a retired cop to look into it for me. 337 00:16:38,546 --> 00:16:41,613 He says Carole was right, and the way the victim did it 338 00:16:41,615 --> 00:16:43,014 is what's really gonna surprise me. 339 00:16:49,890 --> 00:16:52,291 Well, Otto, I appreciate you helping me out with this case. 340 00:16:52,293 --> 00:16:55,093 So the woman that killed herself on my client's property, 341 00:16:55,095 --> 00:16:56,295 I mean, what do we know about her? 342 00:16:56,297 --> 00:16:59,765 Well, her name was Angelina White. 343 00:16:59,767 --> 00:17:03,235 Like the client, she loves horses and animals. 344 00:17:03,237 --> 00:17:05,370 In fact, she owned two horses. 345 00:17:05,372 --> 00:17:07,706 She stabled them right near her apartment here. 346 00:17:07,708 --> 00:17:10,575 Okay, so she didn't have those horses on my client's property. 347 00:17:10,577 --> 00:17:12,377 - Correct. - All right. 348 00:17:12,379 --> 00:17:14,647 So take me through the suicide. What happened? 349 00:17:14,649 --> 00:17:17,582 In the evening of August 18, 2011, 350 00:17:17,584 --> 00:17:18,918 Angelina's best friend 351 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:20,986 heard some noises outside her apartment, 352 00:17:20,988 --> 00:17:23,188 so she goes outside to investigate the noises, 353 00:17:23,190 --> 00:17:25,323 and she finds a plastic container. 354 00:17:25,325 --> 00:17:26,458 Inside the container, 355 00:17:26,460 --> 00:17:29,461 she finds numerous photographs of Angelina. 356 00:17:29,463 --> 00:17:32,530 She also found a suicide note. 357 00:17:32,532 --> 00:17:35,667 She was concerned, so she called the local authorities 358 00:17:35,669 --> 00:17:37,069 to report her missing. 359 00:17:37,071 --> 00:17:38,270 Okay, so the cops are involved now. 360 00:17:38,272 --> 00:17:39,671 - What happens next? - Yeah. 361 00:17:39,673 --> 00:17:43,809 Law firm got a tip about an abandoned truck at a farm. 362 00:17:43,811 --> 00:17:46,411 And I assume that's my client's property. Yes. 363 00:17:46,413 --> 00:17:48,814 Okay, so the cops go to the scene, I assume. Yes. 364 00:17:48,816 --> 00:17:53,752 Inside the truck, on the front seat, is another suicide note. 365 00:17:53,754 --> 00:17:55,287 Okay, so now we got two suicide notes. 366 00:17:55,289 --> 00:17:58,690 Yes. 367 00:17:58,692 --> 00:18:01,693 "To all my loved ones, please forgive me for this final act. 368 00:18:01,695 --> 00:18:04,162 "There are a lot of things I haven't told anyone about, 369 00:18:04,164 --> 00:18:06,365 "which are the reasons for my action. 370 00:18:06,367 --> 00:18:08,700 Let me fade away like I was never here." 371 00:18:08,702 --> 00:18:09,835 What a shame. All right. 372 00:18:09,837 --> 00:18:11,703 So we got a note. We got the truck. 373 00:18:11,705 --> 00:18:12,971 What happens next? 374 00:18:12,973 --> 00:18:15,106 They searched the grounds, and a short time later, 375 00:18:15,108 --> 00:18:16,442 at 8:41 a.m., 376 00:18:16,444 --> 00:18:20,245 they found her body laying on the ground next to a barn. 377 00:18:20,247 --> 00:18:21,713 All right. So this is where she's found. 378 00:18:21,715 --> 00:18:23,982 - Yes. - What was the method of suicide? 379 00:18:23,984 --> 00:18:27,853 She used her.45-caliber semiautomatic pistol, 380 00:18:27,855 --> 00:18:29,388 put it in her mouth. 381 00:18:29,390 --> 00:18:32,324 All right, so she shot herself in the head. Yes. 382 00:18:32,326 --> 00:18:33,725 Not very often you see a woman 383 00:18:33,727 --> 00:18:35,194 committing suicide in this manner. 384 00:18:35,196 --> 00:18:36,461 It's not typical. 385 00:18:36,463 --> 00:18:38,663 Usually, they don't alter their face or body. 386 00:18:38,665 --> 00:18:40,799 All right, so she didn't keep her horses there. 387 00:18:40,801 --> 00:18:42,067 Do we have any clue 388 00:18:42,069 --> 00:18:43,936 why she would commit suicide at that location? 389 00:18:43,938 --> 00:18:45,403 No, I can only speculate. 390 00:18:45,405 --> 00:18:47,339 I think because she's a horse enthusiast, 391 00:18:47,341 --> 00:18:49,941 she just drove and found a place she loved. 392 00:18:53,414 --> 00:18:54,679 I'm seeing two women, 393 00:18:54,681 --> 00:18:58,083 but I think they're the same dead person. 394 00:18:58,085 --> 00:19:01,020 Like, one is a carbon copy 395 00:19:01,022 --> 00:19:04,355 outline of the other woman, 396 00:19:04,357 --> 00:19:07,425 so I don't know if this is her death, 397 00:19:07,427 --> 00:19:10,695 and she's disassociating herself from it. 398 00:19:10,697 --> 00:19:14,700 She's an angry person. 399 00:19:14,702 --> 00:19:18,971 She's just sitting there, glaring at me. 400 00:19:18,973 --> 00:19:24,443 I am getting like I got shot in the back of the head. 401 00:19:24,445 --> 00:19:29,381 Whoever it is, is straight-up in the moment of it piercing them. 402 00:19:29,383 --> 00:19:32,317 That sucks that they're feeling that pain. 403 00:19:32,319 --> 00:19:34,385 It hurts.. 404 00:19:34,387 --> 00:19:35,921 I would not want to live here, man. 405 00:19:40,393 --> 00:19:42,994 So before I got to town, I called a local historian 406 00:19:42,996 --> 00:19:44,863 and asked her to do some digging for me. 407 00:19:44,865 --> 00:19:47,465 Now, she just called back and said she's got something good. 408 00:19:47,467 --> 00:19:50,202 Turns out one of the early owners of Carole's property 409 00:19:50,204 --> 00:19:52,137 was a religious nut, 410 00:19:52,139 --> 00:19:53,805 and this guy's obsession with religion 411 00:19:53,807 --> 00:19:56,275 wound up driving him crazy and destroying his family. 412 00:20:01,415 --> 00:20:03,282 Well, Patricia, I appreciate you helping me out 413 00:20:03,284 --> 00:20:05,016 with this case. 414 00:20:05,018 --> 00:20:06,351 You mentioned on the phone the guy 415 00:20:06,353 --> 00:20:09,020 that owned my client's property was a bit of a nut bag. 416 00:20:09,022 --> 00:20:10,155 What do we know about this guy? 417 00:20:10,157 --> 00:20:11,556 His name was John Wren. 418 00:20:11,558 --> 00:20:14,092 He was an Irish immigrant, and the Wren family 419 00:20:14,094 --> 00:20:17,696 bought your client's property in 1850 to farm on, 420 00:20:17,698 --> 00:20:19,431 but they also probably moved here 421 00:20:19,433 --> 00:20:21,633 because they were very devout Catholics, 422 00:20:21,635 --> 00:20:24,770 and the whole area was considered very sacred. 423 00:20:24,772 --> 00:20:25,971 So, now, you mentioned on the phone 424 00:20:25,973 --> 00:20:28,640 that religion played a big part in this guy going crazy. 425 00:20:28,642 --> 00:20:29,975 What was that all about? 426 00:20:29,977 --> 00:20:33,044 Well, unfortunately for John, his wife died young, 427 00:20:33,046 --> 00:20:35,714 leaving him with four children and the farm. 428 00:20:35,716 --> 00:20:36,848 How old was she when she died? 429 00:20:36,850 --> 00:20:39,384 She was only 43 years old. 430 00:20:39,386 --> 00:20:41,587 He seems to have turned to religion. 431 00:20:41,589 --> 00:20:44,923 He becomes more fanatical in his religious beliefs. 432 00:20:44,925 --> 00:20:47,859 It kind of spirals out of control for him. 433 00:20:47,861 --> 00:20:49,527 He has to move in with his sister 434 00:20:49,529 --> 00:20:52,597 because he can't take care of himself or his farm, 435 00:20:52,599 --> 00:20:57,136 and we do have a census record from 1880, 436 00:20:57,138 --> 00:20:59,671 and he's listed as insane. 437 00:20:59,673 --> 00:21:01,140 So by 1880, he's a widower. 438 00:21:01,142 --> 00:21:02,541 He's living with his sister. 439 00:21:02,543 --> 00:21:04,076 He's deemed insane, but he's still living 440 00:21:04,078 --> 00:21:06,078 on my client's property. - Yes. 441 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,881 Unfortunately, he became more dangerous, more violent, 442 00:21:09,883 --> 00:21:13,752 and in 1883, he gets ahold of a gun, 443 00:21:13,754 --> 00:21:16,288 and he tries to shoot the family. 444 00:21:16,290 --> 00:21:18,557 Well, they, of course, have to call the sheriff. 445 00:21:18,559 --> 00:21:22,827 He deems that John needs to go up to the asylum. 446 00:21:22,829 --> 00:21:25,230 When he gets to that asylum, 447 00:21:25,232 --> 00:21:29,367 the professionals diagnosed him with religious mania. 448 00:21:29,369 --> 00:21:30,635 Now, what the hell is that? 449 00:21:30,637 --> 00:21:32,637 Well, it's -- We're not certain, 450 00:21:32,639 --> 00:21:36,241 but we believe that maybe he became more fanatical. 451 00:21:36,243 --> 00:21:37,843 All right. So he's in the asylum. 452 00:21:37,845 --> 00:21:39,111 What happens with him? 453 00:21:39,113 --> 00:21:42,847 He actually does get out of the asylum in 1887. 454 00:21:42,849 --> 00:21:45,784 So he goes and lives with his daughter, Sarah, 455 00:21:45,786 --> 00:21:48,920 and he dies in 1908. 456 00:21:48,922 --> 00:21:51,523 We have the death certificate here. 457 00:21:51,525 --> 00:21:55,527 That's tragic. 458 00:21:55,529 --> 00:21:58,796 There's somebody who comes in here, some dead guy. 459 00:21:58,798 --> 00:22:02,000 Not thinking he really wants me here. 460 00:22:02,002 --> 00:22:04,336 Just see him, like, running back and forth, 461 00:22:04,338 --> 00:22:08,807 hitting on the walls, 462 00:22:08,809 --> 00:22:11,677 running and hitting and running and hitting. 463 00:22:11,679 --> 00:22:15,947 He's extremely scattered, just kind of losing it. 464 00:22:15,949 --> 00:22:19,151 He's just flipping out. 465 00:22:19,153 --> 00:22:22,220 He just seems, like, mentally ill. 466 00:22:22,222 --> 00:22:23,955 He doesn't belong here. 467 00:22:23,957 --> 00:22:26,424 I don't know why he's still here or anything. 468 00:22:26,426 --> 00:22:28,427 I don't know. 469 00:22:28,429 --> 00:22:29,895 He seems pissed off. 470 00:22:29,897 --> 00:22:34,633 Just feels like he's just off his rocker. 471 00:22:34,635 --> 00:22:37,035 I feel like he owned this place. 472 00:22:37,037 --> 00:22:38,503 He's just shady. 473 00:22:38,505 --> 00:22:40,838 I don't trust him for ****. 474 00:22:46,847 --> 00:22:48,847 For more information about the show, 475 00:22:48,849 --> 00:22:50,382 and if you need us to investigate 476 00:22:50,384 --> 00:22:52,184 unexplained activity in your home... 477 00:22:52,186 --> 00:22:55,787 Please visit travelchannel.com/thedeadfiles. 478 00:22:55,789 --> 00:22:57,121 Click on "Help Me, Dead Files!" 479 00:22:57,123 --> 00:22:58,790 to submit your story, and we'll help if we can. 480 00:23:11,870 --> 00:23:13,603 So far, I've got a family being terrorized by 481 00:23:13,605 --> 00:23:17,341 shadow figures and physical attacks on a property 482 00:23:17,343 --> 00:23:22,479 where one man went insane and a woman committed suicide. 483 00:23:22,481 --> 00:23:25,615 But I want to see if there's anything else. 484 00:23:25,617 --> 00:23:27,017 Searching through old records, 485 00:23:27,019 --> 00:23:31,287 I find a place next to Carole's property called Holy Hill. 486 00:23:31,289 --> 00:23:33,357 Turns out several people who went there looking 487 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,894 for a miracle wound up dying under mysterious circumstances. 488 00:23:39,831 --> 00:23:41,031 I'm heading over to meet an author 489 00:23:41,033 --> 00:23:43,233 who says people have been traveling to Holy Hill 490 00:23:43,235 --> 00:23:46,036 for more than 150 years, 491 00:23:46,038 --> 00:23:49,039 and some of those people never made it out alive. 492 00:23:54,780 --> 00:23:57,181 Linda, I appreciate you helping me out with this case. 493 00:23:57,183 --> 00:23:58,915 Now, you mentioned on the phone this hill 494 00:23:58,917 --> 00:24:00,651 right by my client's property. 495 00:24:00,653 --> 00:24:01,719 What can you tell me about it? 496 00:24:01,721 --> 00:24:03,921 Your client's property is located 497 00:24:03,923 --> 00:24:08,191 about 2,000 feet from Holy Hill. 498 00:24:08,193 --> 00:24:10,393 There's been a big Roman Catholic basilica 499 00:24:10,395 --> 00:24:12,930 up there since the 1930s. 500 00:24:12,932 --> 00:24:14,798 What exactly is a basilica? 501 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:19,869 A basilica is something that has been given special privileges 502 00:24:19,871 --> 00:24:21,805 by the Vatican. 503 00:24:21,807 --> 00:24:24,608 Okay, so this is a big deal for the Catholic religion. Correct. 504 00:24:24,610 --> 00:24:27,744 And even before they arrived, it was considered holy 505 00:24:27,746 --> 00:24:30,147 by the indigenous people who lived there. 506 00:24:30,149 --> 00:24:32,216 There were at least four different tribes 507 00:24:32,218 --> 00:24:33,550 when the settlers arrived, 508 00:24:33,552 --> 00:24:37,688 and they all considered it to be a special holy place. 509 00:24:37,690 --> 00:24:39,823 Why is it so important? Why is it called Holy Hill? 510 00:24:39,825 --> 00:24:40,958 According to the story, 511 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,427 there was a mysterious hermit who was disabled 512 00:24:44,429 --> 00:24:47,364 and somehow managed to get up to the top of this hill. 513 00:24:47,366 --> 00:24:50,434 He stayed there for several years, and during that time, 514 00:24:50,436 --> 00:24:52,836 he was miraculously healed of his illness 515 00:24:52,838 --> 00:24:54,638 and was able to walk again. 516 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:55,839 People took notice. 517 00:24:55,841 --> 00:24:58,308 They all wanted their own piece of the healing. 518 00:24:58,310 --> 00:24:59,843 Okay, so let me get this straight, 519 00:24:59,845 --> 00:25:03,947 people were coming here just because of this story. Yes. 520 00:25:03,949 --> 00:25:05,983 When you have healing miracles 521 00:25:05,985 --> 00:25:07,917 going on any place, people will come. 522 00:25:07,919 --> 00:25:09,719 They want to be part of that. 523 00:25:09,721 --> 00:25:11,988 So, now, Linda, on the phone, you mentioned that people 524 00:25:11,990 --> 00:25:13,457 that made this pilgrimage there, 525 00:25:13,459 --> 00:25:15,391 some of them didn't make it out alive, right? 526 00:25:15,393 --> 00:25:17,393 - So what'd you mean by that? - Yes. 527 00:25:17,395 --> 00:25:19,996 August 6th of 1941, 528 00:25:19,998 --> 00:25:22,933 there was a tourist bus, 529 00:25:22,935 --> 00:25:24,801 and the emergency brake gave out. 530 00:25:24,803 --> 00:25:27,404 It hurdled backwards down the hill 531 00:25:27,406 --> 00:25:30,674 and unfortunately, hit a lady from Milwaukee 532 00:25:30,676 --> 00:25:31,941 who was standing down below 533 00:25:31,943 --> 00:25:34,277 and could not get out of the way in time. 534 00:25:34,279 --> 00:25:36,813 She was crushed to death by the wheels of the bus. 535 00:25:36,815 --> 00:25:39,082 - Any other examples of that? - Yes. 536 00:25:39,084 --> 00:25:43,487 In June 1932, a young man was digging a trench 537 00:25:43,489 --> 00:25:45,022 around the building. 538 00:25:45,024 --> 00:25:47,958 The walls of the trench caved in on him, 539 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,895 and he was buried alive just in an instant. 540 00:25:51,897 --> 00:25:53,563 What a shame. 541 00:25:53,565 --> 00:25:54,698 Okay, so this guy was suffocated. 542 00:25:54,700 --> 00:25:56,633 That's the official cause of death. 543 00:25:56,635 --> 00:25:57,967 It's odd that some place they call 544 00:25:57,969 --> 00:26:02,305 Holy Hill has such tragedy attached to it. 545 00:26:02,307 --> 00:26:07,110 I'm seeing that the earth here is bad. 546 00:26:07,112 --> 00:26:08,979 Usually it's really healing. 547 00:26:08,981 --> 00:26:11,982 Usually the earth is good, 548 00:26:11,984 --> 00:26:15,252 but it's not here. 549 00:26:15,254 --> 00:26:17,254 It's like quicksand. 550 00:26:17,256 --> 00:26:19,790 Saw a bunch of dead people 551 00:26:19,792 --> 00:26:23,660 in a hole. 552 00:26:23,662 --> 00:26:27,531 Why would a place, like, want to eat you? 553 00:26:27,533 --> 00:26:29,399 Is there any kind of sacrifice ****? 554 00:26:29,401 --> 00:26:32,603 Like, did the land need some of that? 555 00:26:32,605 --> 00:26:34,270 You know, was this sacred ground first, 556 00:26:34,272 --> 00:26:37,607 and, like, are these some kind of sacrifice? 557 00:26:37,609 --> 00:26:41,611 Could have been, like, some kind of religious people. 558 00:26:41,613 --> 00:26:46,015 That big elephant thing, it's the earth's protector. 559 00:26:46,017 --> 00:26:49,820 It might have been called upon to do this duty 560 00:26:49,822 --> 00:26:51,421 because it's sacred ground. 561 00:26:59,497 --> 00:27:03,567 I saw several disturbing things on my walk, but two stood out, 562 00:27:03,569 --> 00:27:06,636 first, the shadow person attacking a living woman. 563 00:27:06,638 --> 00:27:11,108 Really black, no face, long neck, 564 00:27:11,110 --> 00:27:14,578 and it is leaning over her and like this, 565 00:27:14,580 --> 00:27:18,982 so, like, it's been, like, absorbing her breath. 566 00:27:18,984 --> 00:27:22,452 And her hair, lighter at the ends, darker at the top. Okay. 567 00:27:22,454 --> 00:27:24,654 Next, I describe the bizarre scene 568 00:27:24,656 --> 00:27:28,792 I saw where the earth was trying to absorb a living woman. 569 00:27:28,794 --> 00:27:31,527 She was in the ground, 570 00:27:31,529 --> 00:27:34,264 like, up to her thighs. 571 00:27:34,266 --> 00:27:37,534 It's literally, like, taking her in, 572 00:27:37,536 --> 00:27:40,537 and there's all of these ivy 573 00:27:40,539 --> 00:27:44,541 wrapping around her fingers 574 00:27:44,543 --> 00:27:49,879 and up to her arms to about here. 575 00:27:49,881 --> 00:27:52,148 Amy, is this what you saw? 576 00:27:52,150 --> 00:27:53,750 Yes. That's what I saw. 577 00:28:19,544 --> 00:28:22,478 Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations, 578 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,714 we're ready to reveal our findings to each other 579 00:28:24,716 --> 00:28:27,951 and our clients for the first time. 580 00:28:27,953 --> 00:28:31,487 Amy, I'd like you to meet Carole and her husband, Grant. 581 00:28:31,489 --> 00:28:33,623 They live here with their daughter, Ashley, 582 00:28:33,625 --> 00:28:37,827 who is 15. 583 00:28:37,829 --> 00:28:39,429 Now, it was a lifelong dream of Carole's 584 00:28:39,431 --> 00:28:41,965 to own a horse farm of her own, 585 00:28:41,967 --> 00:28:44,100 but ever since they moved here four years ago, 586 00:28:44,102 --> 00:28:46,969 the activity here has been aggressive and dangerous, 587 00:28:46,971 --> 00:28:49,706 and frankly, these two feel that if we can't help them out, 588 00:28:49,708 --> 00:28:51,774 something here is gonna kill them. 589 00:28:51,776 --> 00:28:54,577 So now that Amy is introduced to you guys, 590 00:28:54,579 --> 00:28:56,112 she'll tell us about her walk. 591 00:28:58,383 --> 00:29:00,850 There seems to be 592 00:29:00,852 --> 00:29:05,588 a lot of PK here. 593 00:29:05,590 --> 00:29:10,126 I got that there is a living agent here 594 00:29:10,128 --> 00:29:12,928 who has that type of ability. 595 00:29:12,930 --> 00:29:16,332 I believe it to be a living woman. 596 00:29:16,334 --> 00:29:19,535 I saw this living woman 597 00:29:19,537 --> 00:29:24,139 kind of releasing pent-up stress 598 00:29:24,141 --> 00:29:26,743 and things like that. 599 00:29:26,745 --> 00:29:31,480 Things might happen for her down here -- 600 00:29:31,482 --> 00:29:36,018 objects moving, doors shaking, 601 00:29:36,020 --> 00:29:38,154 electronics malfunctioning, 602 00:29:38,156 --> 00:29:43,426 light bulbs going out, TV stuff. 603 00:29:43,428 --> 00:29:45,361 Tell her about the TV turning on by itself. 604 00:29:45,363 --> 00:29:47,163 Yeah, my daughter and I were talking on the couch, 605 00:29:47,165 --> 00:29:49,766 and the TV turned on, and it turned on really loud, 606 00:29:49,768 --> 00:29:53,436 like, way louder than we ever would just have it to watch TV. 607 00:29:53,438 --> 00:29:54,970 Tell her what happened when the picture 608 00:29:54,972 --> 00:29:56,906 went flying off the piano. 609 00:29:56,908 --> 00:30:00,243 Well, I was sitting in the chair, and all of a sudden, 610 00:30:00,245 --> 00:30:04,914 I watched one of my pictures just go flying up and off, 611 00:30:04,916 --> 00:30:07,784 went quite a distance and hit the floor and broke. 612 00:30:07,786 --> 00:30:09,252 Wow. 613 00:30:09,254 --> 00:30:12,255 Carole, you're the only living adult woman in this home. 614 00:30:12,257 --> 00:30:13,389 Yes. 615 00:30:13,391 --> 00:30:14,990 So obviously you're talking about her. 616 00:30:14,992 --> 00:30:17,660 Yes, 617 00:30:17,662 --> 00:30:21,064 That sounds like typical PK experiences 618 00:30:21,066 --> 00:30:24,333 or poltergeist phenomenon, yes. 619 00:30:24,335 --> 00:30:26,669 I'm really nervous. I'm worried for my family. 620 00:30:26,671 --> 00:30:30,607 If I'm doing this, it's really frightening. 621 00:30:30,609 --> 00:30:33,009 I'm surprised. I mean... 622 00:30:33,011 --> 00:30:34,610 What? You, like, afraid of me now? 623 00:30:34,612 --> 00:30:36,012 No, not at all. 624 00:30:36,014 --> 00:30:37,813 I'm kind of afraid of me now. 625 00:30:37,815 --> 00:30:39,682 No, no, no. 626 00:30:42,354 --> 00:30:48,424 The other thing that I got was outside, in the back, 627 00:30:48,426 --> 00:30:50,894 you have a vortex. 628 00:30:50,896 --> 00:30:54,964 It can cause a number of physical and mental issues, 629 00:30:54,966 --> 00:30:57,233 insomnia, vertigo, nausea, 630 00:30:57,235 --> 00:31:00,036 and especially headaches. 631 00:31:00,038 --> 00:31:04,440 Mental confusion and dizziness can be other effects. 632 00:31:04,442 --> 00:31:06,809 Now, you hit on a lot of experiences Carole 633 00:31:06,811 --> 00:31:09,178 and her family are having -- the headaches. 634 00:31:09,180 --> 00:31:11,447 Yeah, definitely, we all suffer the headaches. 635 00:31:11,449 --> 00:31:14,317 Now, you don't sleep, right? 636 00:31:14,319 --> 00:31:16,119 Yeah, I don't sleep well at all, 637 00:31:16,121 --> 00:31:19,522 I'm always tired here, always tired. 638 00:31:19,524 --> 00:31:22,258 - You had mentioned confusion. - Yeah. 639 00:31:22,260 --> 00:31:25,261 It's the same as what we were talking about, right, 640 00:31:25,263 --> 00:31:26,329 losing your concentration? 641 00:31:26,331 --> 00:31:27,330 Yeah, I'm losing concentration. 642 00:31:27,332 --> 00:31:28,398 I go work on something, 643 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,133 and I'm just, like, floating about, 644 00:31:30,135 --> 00:31:32,001 and like, "I can't concentrate on this." 645 00:31:32,003 --> 00:31:33,269 It's awful. 646 00:31:35,807 --> 00:31:38,341 The next thing that I encountered outside 647 00:31:38,343 --> 00:31:41,411 was a very large presence, 648 00:31:41,413 --> 00:31:44,646 and it reminded me initially of an elephant, 649 00:31:44,648 --> 00:31:48,484 and it does go all over the property, 650 00:31:48,486 --> 00:31:49,752 so there's a few ways 651 00:31:49,754 --> 00:31:54,357 that you could have experiences with this thing. 652 00:31:54,359 --> 00:31:56,359 You will feel its presence 653 00:31:56,361 --> 00:32:00,763 and become intensely fearful, 654 00:32:00,765 --> 00:32:03,165 and you will feel threatened like you 655 00:32:03,167 --> 00:32:06,169 are going to be attacked. 656 00:32:06,171 --> 00:32:07,904 You have that feeling of being anxious and everything. 657 00:32:07,906 --> 00:32:10,440 Yes, like, especially in our bedroom, 658 00:32:10,442 --> 00:32:12,641 like something wants to hurt me or attack me, 659 00:32:12,643 --> 00:32:14,777 and it just really scares me to the point 660 00:32:14,779 --> 00:32:16,045 where I have to leave the room. 661 00:32:16,047 --> 00:32:18,247 I just feel like it doesn't want us here. 662 00:32:18,249 --> 00:32:20,249 Like, it's trying to scare us away. 663 00:32:20,251 --> 00:32:24,987 I was hearing the living hearing it kind of brushing up 664 00:32:24,989 --> 00:32:27,723 against the house on occasion. 665 00:32:27,725 --> 00:32:30,659 When it does this, the walls will shake. 666 00:32:30,661 --> 00:32:35,664 Its main goal is that it wants you guys away from here. 667 00:32:39,136 --> 00:32:42,805 Well, you described the bang you heard on the house that just -- 668 00:32:42,807 --> 00:32:46,743 Yeah, we were getting ready for bed, was kind of settling in. 669 00:32:46,745 --> 00:32:49,879 All of a sudden, I hear this loud bang 670 00:32:49,881 --> 00:32:53,349 like somebody just hit the house as hard as they could. 671 00:32:54,819 --> 00:32:56,685 I'm curious as to what the hell 672 00:32:56,687 --> 00:32:59,221 this thing is doing here, though. It is some type of protector, 673 00:32:59,223 --> 00:33:02,425 and its mission is to protect this land. 674 00:33:02,427 --> 00:33:05,962 I got that this land is sacred, but what's so strange is, 675 00:33:05,964 --> 00:33:10,899 usually land, even in sacred areas, 676 00:33:10,901 --> 00:33:15,371 doesn't particularly interact with the living. 677 00:33:15,373 --> 00:33:18,040 This is really unusual 678 00:33:18,042 --> 00:33:21,844 because the land wants to absorb you. 679 00:33:21,846 --> 00:33:26,783 It's removing your life source slowly. 680 00:33:26,785 --> 00:33:29,785 It's trying to kill you. 681 00:33:34,058 --> 00:33:35,324 I kind of felt that way, you know? 682 00:33:35,326 --> 00:33:38,060 I kind of felt like it wanted to hurt me. 683 00:33:38,062 --> 00:33:40,530 It's crazy, you know? It's really frightening. 684 00:33:40,532 --> 00:33:42,465 It's probably a good time 685 00:33:42,467 --> 00:33:44,600 to talk about the history of this land. 686 00:33:44,602 --> 00:33:47,069 Now, the property sits below an area 687 00:33:47,071 --> 00:33:50,139 known as Holy Hill, right? 688 00:33:50,141 --> 00:33:51,340 Yeah. 689 00:33:51,342 --> 00:33:53,208 The Catholics thought this place was so sacred, 690 00:33:53,210 --> 00:33:56,212 they built a massive basilica up there. 691 00:33:56,214 --> 00:33:58,414 Now, you guys see it from your driveway every day. 692 00:33:58,416 --> 00:33:59,615 I just saw it driving here tonight. 693 00:33:59,617 --> 00:34:00,817 Yeah. 694 00:34:00,819 --> 00:34:02,418 A basilica is like a church or a cathedral, 695 00:34:02,420 --> 00:34:04,753 but it gets special privileges 696 00:34:04,755 --> 00:34:09,091 given to it by the Vatican because the site is so holy. 697 00:34:09,093 --> 00:34:10,493 I got a photo of it. 698 00:34:10,495 --> 00:34:13,029 This was what it looks like during the day. 699 00:34:13,031 --> 00:34:15,965 In the 1850s, a story came out about a disabled hermit 700 00:34:15,967 --> 00:34:19,235 who miraculously regained the use of his legs 701 00:34:19,237 --> 00:34:20,770 while he was living up there. 702 00:34:20,772 --> 00:34:22,104 After that, Catholics flocked 703 00:34:22,106 --> 00:34:24,973 from all over the place by the thousands. 704 00:34:24,975 --> 00:34:26,575 Lot of people actually claimed they found it, 705 00:34:26,577 --> 00:34:28,043 that they were healed. 706 00:34:28,045 --> 00:34:30,046 But over the years, several others who visited 707 00:34:30,048 --> 00:34:33,116 Holy Hill died under strange circumstances. 708 00:34:33,118 --> 00:34:34,383 Now, could any of that tie 709 00:34:34,385 --> 00:34:35,585 into the sacred land you're talking about? 710 00:34:35,587 --> 00:34:37,720 Well, yeah, I would assume so. 711 00:34:37,722 --> 00:34:39,054 Funny thing is, I can't recall, 712 00:34:39,056 --> 00:34:41,523 in all the investigations we've done, 713 00:34:41,525 --> 00:34:43,326 you ever talking about the land itself 714 00:34:43,328 --> 00:34:44,593 wanting to kill somebody. 715 00:34:44,595 --> 00:34:46,395 It loves your energy, 716 00:34:46,397 --> 00:34:50,800 and it wants you to become part of that. 717 00:34:50,802 --> 00:34:53,936 I did have a sketch done of it, of what I saw. 718 00:35:05,650 --> 00:35:10,185 That's a pretty good depiction of what she's talking about. 719 00:35:10,187 --> 00:35:12,120 That's disturbing. 720 00:35:15,259 --> 00:35:16,725 Very disturbing. 721 00:35:24,668 --> 00:35:27,202 It's a lot. 722 00:35:27,204 --> 00:35:31,273 Thank you, but I never imagined in a million years 723 00:35:31,275 --> 00:35:33,876 it would be anything like this. 724 00:35:33,878 --> 00:35:35,811 This place overwhelms me all the time. 725 00:35:35,813 --> 00:35:39,147 Sometimes, I just feel like I have to escape from it. 726 00:35:39,149 --> 00:35:40,415 That's the hardest part, is, I -- 727 00:35:40,417 --> 00:35:42,551 This was supposed to be my dream. 728 00:35:42,553 --> 00:35:46,288 It's just really fallen apart. 729 00:35:46,290 --> 00:35:47,890 It's pretty disturbing. 730 00:35:47,892 --> 00:35:52,494 The earth wants her. 731 00:35:52,496 --> 00:35:53,628 New one on me, so... 732 00:35:53,630 --> 00:35:54,897 I was shocked. 733 00:35:59,236 --> 00:36:01,636 You have more to your walk? 734 00:36:01,638 --> 00:36:03,238 Yes, I do. 735 00:36:03,240 --> 00:36:04,573 I'm sorry. 736 00:36:04,575 --> 00:36:08,910 You also have a real shadow person here. 737 00:36:08,912 --> 00:36:10,445 ****. 738 00:36:10,447 --> 00:36:15,984 Yeah, like, a real shadow person. 739 00:36:15,986 --> 00:36:19,388 More than likely, you would, on occasion, see it, 740 00:36:19,390 --> 00:36:22,191 and this was in that bedroom. 741 00:36:22,193 --> 00:36:25,794 Which is Carole and Grant's master bedroom. 742 00:36:25,796 --> 00:36:27,262 Yes. 743 00:36:27,264 --> 00:36:30,666 Dark, black, and solid, and, of course, when I saw it, 744 00:36:30,668 --> 00:36:32,668 it made me sick. 745 00:36:32,670 --> 00:36:34,603 Being affected by the shadow person 746 00:36:34,605 --> 00:36:38,273 would be experiencing things like feeling smothered 747 00:36:38,275 --> 00:36:42,010 or shortness of breath, having breathing issues. 748 00:36:42,012 --> 00:36:44,880 It's just leeching that breath, 749 00:36:44,882 --> 00:36:46,815 and what I've seen when shadow people do that 750 00:36:46,817 --> 00:36:50,219 is, eventually, it kills the person. 751 00:36:50,221 --> 00:36:53,288 Sometimes, when I'm in bed, I'll wake up, 752 00:36:53,290 --> 00:36:54,823 and I'll feel, like, this -- 753 00:36:54,825 --> 00:36:57,292 It's very dark, like, super dark in the room, like, 754 00:36:57,294 --> 00:36:58,894 and it feels like I can't move. 755 00:36:58,896 --> 00:37:01,497 I can't get up, and I can't breathe. 756 00:37:01,499 --> 00:37:05,300 It's just terrifying when it happens.- 757 00:37:05,302 --> 00:37:07,970 Now, Ashley, who sleeps in the room right next to theirs, 758 00:37:07,972 --> 00:37:10,572 sees these shadow figures but in the hallway. 759 00:37:10,574 --> 00:37:13,175 Yes, I know. Yeah. 760 00:37:13,177 --> 00:37:15,911 Like, in the doorway area of her bedroom, 761 00:37:15,913 --> 00:37:19,714 so she's seeing it looking out in her doorway, yeah. 762 00:37:19,716 --> 00:37:23,585 I did have a sketch done of what I saw it doing to you. 763 00:37:34,398 --> 00:37:37,265 You're not gonna want to see this, 764 00:37:37,267 --> 00:37:39,801 but I have to show you. 765 00:37:39,803 --> 00:37:42,738 - Jeez. - My god. 766 00:37:54,818 --> 00:37:57,619 That's horrible. 767 00:38:02,159 --> 00:38:03,492 You okay? 768 00:38:03,494 --> 00:38:05,894 No, not really. 769 00:38:05,896 --> 00:38:09,164 I'm actually pissed off at this thing 770 00:38:09,166 --> 00:38:12,968 trying to attack my wife, trying to kill her. 771 00:38:12,970 --> 00:38:15,771 It's horrible. 772 00:38:15,773 --> 00:38:18,306 I don't even want to be here. 773 00:38:18,308 --> 00:38:21,643 This **** is just straight malicious. 774 00:38:21,645 --> 00:38:23,979 He's much more focused on the endgame, 775 00:38:23,981 --> 00:38:25,914 which is to kill you, 776 00:38:25,916 --> 00:38:30,785 and the way that he watches your daughter makes me nervous. 777 00:38:30,787 --> 00:38:32,253 - My daughter... - I'm getting -- both of them. 778 00:38:32,255 --> 00:38:34,456 This thing did something to my daughter. 779 00:38:34,458 --> 00:38:39,194 She doesn't deserve it. 780 00:38:39,196 --> 00:38:42,931 This place has made her so unhappy. 781 00:38:42,933 --> 00:38:44,866 I feel responsible for that. 782 00:39:09,559 --> 00:39:12,093 So, Carole, I know how important this place is to you, 783 00:39:12,095 --> 00:39:14,629 but both of you made it clear that keeping your family safe 784 00:39:14,631 --> 00:39:16,163 is the number one priority. 785 00:39:16,165 --> 00:39:17,765 So now for the big question, is there any way 786 00:39:17,767 --> 00:39:19,701 for you to do that here? 787 00:39:19,703 --> 00:39:25,373 For that answer, I'm gonna turn it over to Amy. 788 00:39:25,375 --> 00:39:28,710 I think you know what I'm gonna say. 789 00:39:28,712 --> 00:39:31,712 You're dealing with sacred land, spiritual land, 790 00:39:31,714 --> 00:39:35,449 that wants you to become a part of it. 791 00:39:35,451 --> 00:39:38,519 You can't stop it. You can't change it. 792 00:39:38,521 --> 00:39:43,925 You can't do anything about it. 793 00:39:43,927 --> 00:39:45,860 And the shadow person, 794 00:39:45,862 --> 00:39:50,064 it's been here for who knows how long, 795 00:39:50,066 --> 00:39:52,867 but there's nothing you can do about shadow people 796 00:39:52,869 --> 00:39:57,138 and especially when it has its victim, its mark. 797 00:39:57,140 --> 00:40:01,542 We don't want you to die. 798 00:40:01,544 --> 00:40:03,277 You have to move. 799 00:40:03,279 --> 00:40:06,948 You have to move. 800 00:40:06,950 --> 00:40:08,215 I had a feeling. 801 00:40:08,217 --> 00:40:11,285 I knew something was really wrong here. 802 00:40:11,287 --> 00:40:15,490 I didn't feel right here. I never felt happy here. 803 00:40:15,492 --> 00:40:17,625 What happens if they decide to stay here? 804 00:40:17,627 --> 00:40:19,894 Well, they would kill you, and what I'm thinking is, 805 00:40:19,896 --> 00:40:21,095 then start on your daughter. 806 00:40:25,502 --> 00:40:27,301 This is not a choice. 807 00:40:27,303 --> 00:40:29,637 You just got to leave. 808 00:40:29,639 --> 00:40:31,238 You gonna take Amy's advice? 809 00:40:35,311 --> 00:40:37,645 - Yeah. - I'm ready to go. 810 00:40:37,647 --> 00:40:42,250 I'm ready to find a safe place for my family. 811 00:40:42,252 --> 00:40:44,519 I don't want to live like this anymore. 812 00:40:44,521 --> 00:40:46,387 It'd be better off if we leave. 813 00:40:46,389 --> 00:40:48,389 Could the shadow person follow her, 814 00:40:48,391 --> 00:40:50,190 or they kind of stable where they are? 815 00:40:50,192 --> 00:40:53,594 No. It'll stay here. 816 00:40:53,596 --> 00:40:56,998 Now, once you leave, 817 00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,200 you may still have random experiences 818 00:41:00,202 --> 00:41:05,740 with your abilities, but more than likely, over time, 819 00:41:05,742 --> 00:41:08,409 you'll go back into, like, 820 00:41:08,411 --> 00:41:12,212 a hibernation state with that. 821 00:41:12,214 --> 00:41:17,485 You got bad news, but at least now you could be safe, 822 00:41:17,487 --> 00:41:21,889 and you maybe could pursue your dream in another location. 823 00:41:21,891 --> 00:41:23,290 We've been so miserable. 824 00:41:23,292 --> 00:41:26,427 I mean, we've never been so miserable in our lives. 825 00:41:26,429 --> 00:41:28,629 Feel like it's taken a huge toll on relationships, 826 00:41:28,631 --> 00:41:32,232 with our relationship, relationships with our friends. 827 00:41:32,234 --> 00:41:35,436 Didn't feel right here. I never felt happy here. 828 00:41:35,438 --> 00:41:37,105 Maybe it'll make your marriage a little stronger. 829 00:41:37,107 --> 00:41:38,505 I hope so. 830 00:41:38,507 --> 00:41:40,174 I'm happy that I have answers. 831 00:41:40,176 --> 00:41:42,110 I really appreciate all the hard work 832 00:41:42,112 --> 00:41:45,379 that you, everyone, has done to help us out -- Absolutely. 833 00:41:45,381 --> 00:41:46,780 ...and I really appreciate it a lot. 834 00:41:46,782 --> 00:41:48,515 Thanks. 835 00:41:50,787 --> 00:41:53,387 Carole and her family have suffered a lot 836 00:41:53,389 --> 00:41:54,989 in their time here, 837 00:41:54,991 --> 00:41:58,059 but I believe if they move as far away as possible, 838 00:41:58,061 --> 00:42:01,929 they can find peace and get a fresh start somewhere new. 839 00:42:06,469 --> 00:42:07,802 Hello. 840 00:42:07,804 --> 00:42:09,870 We have decided to take Amy and Steve's advice, 841 00:42:09,872 --> 00:42:11,606 and we did put our house on the market. 842 00:42:11,608 --> 00:42:15,343 The activity continues -- the banging, the knocking, 843 00:42:15,345 --> 00:42:16,844 the sleepless nights. 844 00:42:16,846 --> 00:42:19,013 It's just been hell living here. 845 00:42:19,015 --> 00:42:21,015 We just want to thank Amy and Steve 846 00:42:21,017 --> 00:42:22,550 and everyone involved with "Dead Files" 847 00:42:22,552 --> 00:42:25,953 for coming out and helping us and giving us answers 848 00:42:25,955 --> 00:42:27,555 so that we can move on and have our fresh start. 849 00:42:27,557 --> 00:42:28,856 - Thank you. - Thank you. 850 00:42:28,906 --> 00:42:33,456 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 64939

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