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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:10,411 --> 00:00:13,379 There's real darkness in here. 2 00:00:13,381 --> 00:00:16,581 There's gotta be a poltergeist. 3 00:00:16,583 --> 00:00:19,751 Whatever's in this house is targeting my children. 4 00:00:19,753 --> 00:00:23,822 I have seen shadowy figures. 5 00:00:23,824 --> 00:00:27,960 It can touch the living people and they can see it. 6 00:00:27,962 --> 00:00:30,795 In every one of the dreams I'm killing the people 7 00:00:30,797 --> 00:00:33,064 with the same knife. 8 00:00:33,066 --> 00:00:35,700 He can make them angry enough to kill. 9 00:00:37,471 --> 00:00:40,973 My gut is like: get out. 10 00:00:40,975 --> 00:00:43,642 Panic, panic, panic. 11 00:00:43,644 --> 00:00:45,710 My name is Amy Allan. 12 00:00:45,712 --> 00:00:47,579 I'm seeing, like, blood. 13 00:00:47,581 --> 00:00:50,949 The house just feels bad. 14 00:00:50,951 --> 00:00:52,150 I see dead people. 15 00:00:52,152 --> 00:00:56,688 This man is completely insane. 16 00:00:56,690 --> 00:00:59,657 I speak to dead people. 17 00:00:59,659 --> 00:01:01,893 Okay, she didn't like it in there. 18 00:01:01,895 --> 00:01:03,829 And they speak to me. 19 00:01:03,831 --> 00:01:05,864 He likes to twist that knife. 20 00:01:05,866 --> 00:01:09,401 But there's only one way to know if my findings are real. 21 00:01:09,403 --> 00:01:13,037 Something paranormal is trying to kill them. 22 00:01:13,039 --> 00:01:14,573 I rely on my partner. 23 00:01:14,575 --> 00:01:16,808 I'm Steve DiSchiavi. 24 00:01:16,810 --> 00:01:18,443 I'm a retired New York City homicide detective. 25 00:01:18,445 --> 00:01:19,978 Now does he die right there on the spot? 26 00:01:19,980 --> 00:01:23,982 And I know every person, every house, has secrets. 27 00:01:23,984 --> 00:01:26,552 I think it's trying to steal my soul. 28 00:01:26,554 --> 00:01:28,821 It's my job to reveal them. 29 00:01:28,823 --> 00:01:30,555 You ever get touched like that again? 30 00:01:30,557 --> 00:01:32,324 But Steve and I never speak. 31 00:01:32,326 --> 00:01:34,460 We never communicate during an investigation. 32 00:01:34,462 --> 00:01:35,994 Until the very end. 33 00:01:35,996 --> 00:01:37,830 I'm as stunned as you guys are. 34 00:01:37,832 --> 00:01:40,064 When we uncover if it's safe for you to stay. 35 00:01:40,066 --> 00:01:42,434 I don't want anything to happen to my daughter. 36 00:01:42,436 --> 00:01:44,102 Or time to get out. 37 00:01:44,104 --> 00:01:46,738 His goal is to kill you guys. 38 00:02:02,155 --> 00:02:03,722 I'm out here in Winchester, Kentucky, 39 00:02:03,724 --> 00:02:05,791 it's about 30 minutes east of Lexington, 40 00:02:05,793 --> 00:02:07,359 I got a call from a mom named Heather. 41 00:02:07,361 --> 00:02:09,128 Now she sounded real bad, 42 00:02:09,130 --> 00:02:12,163 says something in her house is attacking her kids 43 00:02:12,165 --> 00:02:14,466 and changing her husband's personality. 44 00:02:14,468 --> 00:02:17,102 She says if Amy and I can't fix the problem, 45 00:02:17,104 --> 00:02:19,838 she's gonna wind up divorced or dead. 46 00:02:24,111 --> 00:02:26,245 Before Amy arrives, I clear the area 47 00:02:26,247 --> 00:02:28,447 of any leading information. 48 00:02:28,449 --> 00:02:30,649 This home has a lot of photos, 49 00:02:30,651 --> 00:02:32,117 dream catchers, 50 00:02:32,119 --> 00:02:33,985 and religious icons, 51 00:02:33,987 --> 00:02:37,523 so it's important I cover or remove them all. 52 00:02:37,525 --> 00:02:40,859 When I'm done the location will be ready for tonight's walk. 53 00:02:56,944 --> 00:03:02,948 This is very strange: the whole earth shook. 54 00:03:02,950 --> 00:03:05,584 And then I'm just seeing bodies. 55 00:03:05,586 --> 00:03:09,688 People are buried here. 56 00:03:09,690 --> 00:03:14,660 It's a very hard life, if you live at this location. 57 00:03:22,436 --> 00:03:24,269 So, Heather, when we talked on the phone 58 00:03:24,271 --> 00:03:25,904 you sounded real emotional, 59 00:03:25,906 --> 00:03:27,239 like you're going through hell here. 60 00:03:27,241 --> 00:03:28,706 Yes. 61 00:03:28,708 --> 00:03:30,442 We've had a lot of activity go on in the house. 62 00:03:30,444 --> 00:03:33,212 Whatever's in this house is targeting my children 63 00:03:33,214 --> 00:03:35,847 but I want it, I want it gone. 64 00:03:35,849 --> 00:03:37,382 Do you know anything about the house or the property? 65 00:03:37,384 --> 00:03:41,987 Yes, the previous owners actually died in the house. 66 00:03:41,989 --> 00:03:44,589 Okay, I'll look into that. 67 00:03:44,591 --> 00:03:46,124 Who lives in the house with you? 68 00:03:46,126 --> 00:03:47,959 This is a photo of our children. 69 00:03:47,961 --> 00:03:51,396 That is my youngest daughter Annalysa, she's 10 years old, 70 00:03:51,398 --> 00:03:55,334 my husband Jonathan, myself, my oldest daughter Ayliana, 71 00:03:55,336 --> 00:03:58,270 she is 11, my son Jonathan, he's three, 72 00:03:58,272 --> 00:04:01,406 and my mother in law, Jennifer. 73 00:04:01,408 --> 00:04:03,475 Okay, so Heather do me a favor and give me your list 74 00:04:03,477 --> 00:04:04,676 of what you guys are going through here. 75 00:04:04,678 --> 00:04:08,480 We're hearing voices, we hear footsteps. 76 00:04:08,482 --> 00:04:11,149 We have objects moving on it's own. 77 00:04:11,151 --> 00:04:14,419 We see apparitions, we have mood changes 78 00:04:14,421 --> 00:04:17,622 and we have physical attacks. 79 00:04:17,624 --> 00:04:19,224 On the phone you mentioned the activity 80 00:04:19,226 --> 00:04:20,359 is affecting your marriage. 81 00:04:20,361 --> 00:04:22,628 Yes. In what way? 82 00:04:22,630 --> 00:04:24,029 He's been very moody. 83 00:04:24,031 --> 00:04:26,832 The slightest thing will, he'll blow up 84 00:04:26,834 --> 00:04:29,034 and start screaming at everyone. 85 00:04:29,036 --> 00:04:30,334 I mean, it's gotten to the point 86 00:04:30,336 --> 00:04:33,171 where I've wanted to take the kids and leave. 87 00:04:33,173 --> 00:04:34,439 Does he have a drinking problem? 88 00:04:34,441 --> 00:04:36,441 No, he doesn't drink, he doesn't do drugs. 89 00:04:36,443 --> 00:04:39,511 What makes you think that's just not something going on 90 00:04:39,513 --> 00:04:42,180 with him, and has something to do with the paranormal? 91 00:04:42,182 --> 00:04:44,182 When we leave the house, we have no issues. 92 00:04:44,184 --> 00:04:45,650 We're as happy as can be. 93 00:04:45,652 --> 00:04:47,719 But the second we walk into this house, 94 00:04:47,721 --> 00:04:50,322 it's like something takes over him, 95 00:04:50,324 --> 00:04:54,259 and he's a completely different person. 96 00:04:54,261 --> 00:04:56,060 So, what are you hoping we can do for you? 97 00:04:56,062 --> 00:04:58,596 I want my kids to be in a safe environment, 98 00:04:58,598 --> 00:05:00,331 and I want my marriage back. 99 00:05:00,333 --> 00:05:03,134 We've had a dream relationship until now. 100 00:05:03,136 --> 00:05:04,602 What if Amy tells you, 101 00:05:04,604 --> 00:05:06,538 "Listen, you gotta get the hell out of here, 102 00:05:06,540 --> 00:05:08,139 this place is out of control. 103 00:05:08,141 --> 00:05:10,408 You're not gonna survive." What would you do then. 104 00:05:10,410 --> 00:05:11,743 Burn this house to the ground. 105 00:05:11,745 --> 00:05:14,412 I'll leave and they can have this damn property, 106 00:05:14,414 --> 00:05:15,947 if that's what it is. 107 00:05:20,820 --> 00:05:24,890 There's an older male, late 60s, early 70s. 108 00:05:24,892 --> 00:05:30,562 He is the main person, dead-wise, who's here. 109 00:05:30,564 --> 00:05:35,233 He owned this property. 110 00:05:35,235 --> 00:05:37,635 Maybe even in the 2000s. 111 00:05:37,637 --> 00:05:42,841 He's angry, a very angry person. 112 00:05:42,843 --> 00:05:44,843 Do you know if the living have any experiences with him? 113 00:05:44,845 --> 00:05:46,978 Yeah, I think the living would hear him, 114 00:05:46,980 --> 00:05:51,583 like, yelling at them, stomps around back there a lot. 115 00:05:51,585 --> 00:05:54,519 And so hard that he makes the furniture shake. 116 00:05:56,924 --> 00:05:58,723 Do you know what he wants? 117 00:05:58,725 --> 00:06:00,325 I know with some of the people here, 118 00:06:00,327 --> 00:06:04,496 he doesn't agree with their religion, or philosophy. 119 00:06:04,498 --> 00:06:07,099 He's trying to save them. 120 00:06:12,606 --> 00:06:15,072 Okay, Heather, so let's talk about your experiences. 121 00:06:15,074 --> 00:06:17,275 I hear voices all throughout the house. 122 00:06:17,277 --> 00:06:18,944 Well, are you sure it wasn't a radio, 123 00:06:18,946 --> 00:06:20,278 a television you guys left on? 124 00:06:20,280 --> 00:06:22,814 Checked for TVs, I've checked for radios, 125 00:06:22,816 --> 00:06:24,749 and nothing is ever on. 126 00:06:24,751 --> 00:06:26,684 Okay, anything else happen? 127 00:06:26,686 --> 00:06:28,820 We were doing the dishes, and a coffee mug flew 128 00:06:28,822 --> 00:06:31,490 and about hit my daughter and I on the head. 129 00:06:31,492 --> 00:06:34,059 These cups look pretty secure on here. 130 00:06:34,061 --> 00:06:36,194 I mean, this is not gonna just come flying off. 131 00:06:36,196 --> 00:06:37,829 Could it have bounced and went flying across, 132 00:06:37,831 --> 00:06:40,098 or did it just seem like it shot across? 133 00:06:40,100 --> 00:06:41,432 It shot across. 134 00:06:41,434 --> 00:06:42,700 Your husband wasn't raging that day, 135 00:06:42,702 --> 00:06:44,202 or anything like that? Nope. 136 00:06:44,204 --> 00:06:45,937 That could have been really, really dangerous. 137 00:06:45,939 --> 00:06:47,505 All right, anything else? 138 00:06:47,507 --> 00:06:49,908 I've seen shadows back here. 139 00:06:49,910 --> 00:06:51,642 I see walking to the point where 140 00:06:51,644 --> 00:06:53,044 I close my bedroom door every night, 141 00:06:53,046 --> 00:06:54,712 so I don't have to see it. 142 00:06:54,714 --> 00:06:56,714 What did he look like to you? He's pretty tall. 143 00:06:56,716 --> 00:06:58,249 It's about the size of a grown man. 144 00:06:58,251 --> 00:06:59,784 But I can't make out a face or anything. 145 00:06:59,786 --> 00:07:01,185 I just see black. 146 00:07:01,187 --> 00:07:02,721 I mean, is it possible it could be somebody 147 00:07:02,723 --> 00:07:04,155 actually walking back there. 148 00:07:04,157 --> 00:07:06,057 Whenever I check, there's nothing ever out there. 149 00:07:06,059 --> 00:07:08,059 So have you given any thought as to what 150 00:07:08,061 --> 00:07:09,661 may be causing the activity here? 151 00:07:09,663 --> 00:07:10,929 I visited the Queen Mary, 152 00:07:10,931 --> 00:07:13,665 and my husband's actually been to Waverly Hills. 153 00:07:13,667 --> 00:07:16,468 So, supposedly these are two pretty haunted locations. 154 00:07:16,470 --> 00:07:17,635 Yes. 155 00:07:17,637 --> 00:07:18,804 Well, you know, that's good to know. 156 00:07:18,806 --> 00:07:23,275 We'll tell Amy and see what she thinks. 157 00:07:23,277 --> 00:07:26,878 The angry old man, he likes this area. 158 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,281 He is trying to talk to the people here. 159 00:07:29,283 --> 00:07:34,553 Mostly by yelling, stomping around. 160 00:07:34,555 --> 00:07:39,156 So it makes, you know, things move. 161 00:07:39,158 --> 00:07:41,293 He wants to blind them because they don't see things 162 00:07:41,295 --> 00:07:42,693 the right way, that they're not living 163 00:07:42,695 --> 00:07:44,295 the right kind of life. 164 00:07:44,297 --> 00:07:47,499 Basically, like if you take that sense of sight away, 165 00:07:47,501 --> 00:07:52,436 then maybe they'll look inside themselves. 166 00:07:52,438 --> 00:07:55,606 He's like: I'm just trying to save people. 167 00:07:55,608 --> 00:07:56,908 What the hell? 168 00:07:56,910 --> 00:07:57,909 What is it? 169 00:07:57,911 --> 00:08:01,112 Somebody getting strangled. 170 00:08:01,114 --> 00:08:02,780 Is the old man doing this? 171 00:08:02,782 --> 00:08:07,452 No, I'm thinking: okay, then it's gotta be poltergeist. 172 00:08:14,727 --> 00:08:15,861 Okay, how old are you, Ayliana? 173 00:08:15,863 --> 00:08:16,928 I'm 11. 174 00:08:16,930 --> 00:08:18,263 11, and you are? 175 00:08:18,265 --> 00:08:19,597 10. 176 00:08:19,599 --> 00:08:20,998 So I was talking to Mommy earlier, 177 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,335 and she was telling me about some really scary stuff 178 00:08:23,337 --> 00:08:25,470 that's going on in the house. 179 00:08:25,472 --> 00:08:27,939 Can you tell me about an experience you had? 180 00:08:27,941 --> 00:08:29,607 I was doing the dishes, 181 00:08:29,609 --> 00:08:31,543 and I set a butter knife down on a towel, 182 00:08:31,545 --> 00:08:34,679 and next thing I knew, it flew down and hit my foot. 183 00:08:34,681 --> 00:08:38,083 Okay, you sure you didn't bang into it? 184 00:08:38,085 --> 00:08:39,985 So, Annalysa, has anything like that ever happened to you? 185 00:08:39,987 --> 00:08:41,252 Yes. 186 00:08:41,254 --> 00:08:43,955 I was asleep and no one was in the room, 187 00:08:43,957 --> 00:08:48,693 and the jewelry box just flew off my bed-stand, 188 00:08:48,695 --> 00:08:49,828 and it woke me up. 189 00:08:49,830 --> 00:08:51,763 Were any of the animals near? 190 00:08:51,765 --> 00:08:53,631 No, the door was shut. 191 00:08:53,633 --> 00:08:54,832 Okay, so anything else? 192 00:08:54,834 --> 00:08:59,037 Yes, I've seen a woman ghost, bowing. 193 00:08:59,039 --> 00:09:01,506 Like standing and bowing over Ayliana, 194 00:09:01,508 --> 00:09:04,208 while she was sleeping. 195 00:09:04,210 --> 00:09:05,777 Were you scared? 196 00:09:05,779 --> 00:09:08,046 Yeah. 197 00:09:08,048 --> 00:09:09,447 So when I was talking to Mom, she was saying Daddy, 198 00:09:09,449 --> 00:09:12,083 his temper goes real crazy sometimes. 199 00:09:12,085 --> 00:09:14,185 He changed a lot when we moved here. 200 00:09:14,187 --> 00:09:15,420 He did? 201 00:09:15,422 --> 00:09:17,855 Sometimes if he, like, yells at us, 202 00:09:17,857 --> 00:09:20,859 he like, gets really, really mad and stuff, 203 00:09:20,861 --> 00:09:23,128 and it kind of like freaks me out sometimes. 204 00:09:23,130 --> 00:09:24,262 Sometimes daddies get mad 205 00:09:24,264 --> 00:09:25,463 because their kids aren't behaving. 206 00:09:25,465 --> 00:09:26,464 Are you being good? 207 00:09:26,466 --> 00:09:28,066 Yes! 208 00:09:28,068 --> 00:09:30,001 Okay, just checking. 209 00:09:30,003 --> 00:09:33,972 So, are you afraid to be here? 210 00:09:33,974 --> 00:09:36,507 Would you wanna move from here? 211 00:09:36,509 --> 00:09:40,812 Okay. 212 00:09:40,814 --> 00:09:43,347 There's a hidden person or thing. 213 00:09:43,349 --> 00:09:49,020 The only way I can see it is as a tuxedo shirt. 214 00:09:49,022 --> 00:09:52,123 But it has no legs, no head, you know, no hands. 215 00:09:52,125 --> 00:09:54,960 When this thing is around, there's also these little, 216 00:09:54,962 --> 00:09:57,362 black, snake-like things, 217 00:09:57,364 --> 00:10:01,299 like, long, black shadow snakes. 218 00:10:01,301 --> 00:10:02,968 And they're all over. 219 00:10:02,970 --> 00:10:07,705 There's probably maybe five of them. 220 00:10:07,707 --> 00:10:11,042 It can touch the living people, and they can see it. 221 00:10:11,044 --> 00:10:17,248 They probably think they're seeing shadow figures. 222 00:10:17,250 --> 00:10:20,351 I feel a lot of panic in here, a lot of fear. 223 00:10:20,353 --> 00:10:22,721 And I'm hearing: terrorized. 224 00:10:22,723 --> 00:10:25,790 Terrorized. 225 00:10:25,792 --> 00:10:28,493 There's real, real darkness in here. 226 00:10:28,495 --> 00:10:31,062 These long, snake-things come in here. 227 00:10:31,064 --> 00:10:34,032 And it's physically assaulting them. 228 00:10:35,902 --> 00:10:37,535 Like, there's at least two people in here. 229 00:10:37,537 --> 00:10:40,138 So those things are going in their ears, 230 00:10:40,140 --> 00:10:42,940 and it can mess with their brain. 231 00:10:42,942 --> 00:10:45,610 I think the living brought these things here. 232 00:10:45,612 --> 00:10:48,345 The living went somewhere they weren't supposed to go. 233 00:10:48,347 --> 00:10:52,016 It's an attachment -- they brought it home. 234 00:10:52,018 --> 00:10:53,885 I literally wanna run out of here. 235 00:10:53,887 --> 00:10:56,488 This is really bad. 236 00:11:16,543 --> 00:11:18,476 Heather called us in because she feels 237 00:11:18,478 --> 00:11:21,345 the paranormal activity here has the kids in danger. 238 00:11:21,347 --> 00:11:23,314 I mean, do you agree with that? 239 00:11:23,316 --> 00:11:24,749 Yes. 240 00:11:24,751 --> 00:11:25,750 Okay, what kind of danger you think they're in? 241 00:11:25,752 --> 00:11:27,886 Somebody's gonna hurt 'em. 242 00:11:27,888 --> 00:11:28,886 Physically? 243 00:11:28,888 --> 00:11:30,088 Physically hurt 'em, yeah. 244 00:11:30,090 --> 00:11:31,355 Okay, okay. 245 00:11:31,357 --> 00:11:33,024 So, as far as experiences, 246 00:11:33,026 --> 00:11:34,692 have you seen anything or heard anything? 247 00:11:34,694 --> 00:11:37,028 I've seen an apparition of a female, 248 00:11:37,030 --> 00:11:39,631 sitting on the bed in Annalysa's room. 249 00:11:39,633 --> 00:11:40,898 What did she look like? 250 00:11:40,900 --> 00:11:43,635 She had on a white dress, and she was, 251 00:11:43,637 --> 00:11:45,303 you could see through her. 252 00:11:45,305 --> 00:11:46,804 Okay, how old do you think she was? 253 00:11:46,806 --> 00:11:48,173 50, 51? 254 00:11:48,175 --> 00:11:50,908 All right, so I wanna talk about something else. 255 00:11:50,910 --> 00:11:52,877 Heather mentioned to me that her husband, 256 00:11:52,879 --> 00:11:56,313 your son, his personality has changed. 257 00:11:56,315 --> 00:11:57,248 Have you noticed that? 258 00:11:57,250 --> 00:11:59,918 Yes, very drastic, it's changed. 259 00:11:59,920 --> 00:12:02,653 If he's away from here, he's fine. 260 00:12:02,655 --> 00:12:03,921 Okay. He comes home, 261 00:12:03,923 --> 00:12:06,591 his whole attitude changes toward everybody. 262 00:12:06,593 --> 00:12:08,692 Okay, does this scare you? Yeah. 263 00:12:14,667 --> 00:12:15,867 Thanks. 264 00:12:15,869 --> 00:12:18,069 I know; it's tough to talk about your son. 265 00:12:18,071 --> 00:12:20,871 Something's got a hold on him. 266 00:12:20,873 --> 00:12:22,607 And it's not good. 267 00:12:28,215 --> 00:12:29,947 My God! 268 00:12:29,949 --> 00:12:33,684 Immediate headache, horrible headache in here. 269 00:12:33,686 --> 00:12:36,154 There's way, way too much energy in here. 270 00:12:36,156 --> 00:12:38,956 This person is not stable. 271 00:12:38,958 --> 00:12:41,960 This is a female, yelling and crying and screaming, 272 00:12:41,962 --> 00:12:45,597 and losing their mind. 273 00:12:45,599 --> 00:12:49,166 Everything in her body is misfiring, from A to Z. 274 00:12:49,168 --> 00:12:54,038 Mentally, physically; I think she has, 275 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:57,174 abilities, as far as psychokinesis, 276 00:12:57,176 --> 00:13:01,446 and all of those components are adding up to there being 277 00:13:01,448 --> 00:13:04,115 poltergeist phenomena around. 278 00:13:04,117 --> 00:13:05,783 Does this pose any kind of threat 279 00:13:05,785 --> 00:13:07,318 to the other living here? 280 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:14,391 Yeah, if she was pissed at them. 281 00:13:14,393 --> 00:13:16,928 So Jon, I talked to your wife, kids, and everybody, 282 00:13:16,930 --> 00:13:18,997 and your wife seems to think that the kids are 283 00:13:18,999 --> 00:13:21,065 in danger here, because of the activity. 284 00:13:21,067 --> 00:13:21,866 Do you agree with that? 285 00:13:21,868 --> 00:13:23,234 Yes, I do. 286 00:13:23,236 --> 00:13:25,869 With the things flying at the kids and stuff, 287 00:13:25,871 --> 00:13:27,071 one of them is gonna get hurt. 288 00:13:27,073 --> 00:13:29,140 Okay, so now what about you? Do you have any 289 00:13:29,142 --> 00:13:30,942 personal experiences you can tell me about? 290 00:13:30,944 --> 00:13:33,711 I had a decorative cow skull that was hanging 291 00:13:33,713 --> 00:13:39,083 on the wall in the dining room, and it flew off the wall. 292 00:13:39,085 --> 00:13:41,019 At first, I thought, well, maybe it was just, 293 00:13:41,021 --> 00:13:43,621 you know, the nail gave way or something. 294 00:13:43,623 --> 00:13:46,090 I put it back up, but it did it again. 295 00:13:46,092 --> 00:13:49,093 Okay, I can't figure out how that could happen. 296 00:13:49,095 --> 00:13:50,628 So, anything else? 297 00:13:50,630 --> 00:13:52,764 Now, there was a time me and my wife were arguing. 298 00:13:52,766 --> 00:13:54,999 She took off and she slammed the door in my face. 299 00:13:55,001 --> 00:13:57,568 I grabbed that doorknob and yanked that door open, 300 00:13:57,570 --> 00:14:00,371 and when I did, it felt like somebody shoved me, 301 00:14:00,373 --> 00:14:02,039 as hard as they could. 302 00:14:02,041 --> 00:14:03,240 Now, did it feel like two hands, 303 00:14:03,242 --> 00:14:04,042 or did it just feel like a force? 304 00:14:04,044 --> 00:14:05,143 It felt like two hands. 305 00:14:05,145 --> 00:14:06,043 Like two hands. 306 00:14:06,045 --> 00:14:07,445 What did you do? 307 00:14:07,447 --> 00:14:08,713 I just kind of high-tailed it out of the room. 308 00:14:08,715 --> 00:14:10,581 I ain't gonna lie, it was scary. 309 00:14:14,921 --> 00:14:16,854 There's a dead guy out here. 310 00:14:16,856 --> 00:14:19,524 He looks like a cowboy. 311 00:14:19,526 --> 00:14:22,393 This guy is on a horse, running around, 312 00:14:22,395 --> 00:14:26,397 and around, and around, and he always had this knife. 313 00:14:26,399 --> 00:14:31,002 And then, he stretched out his arm and cut. 314 00:14:31,004 --> 00:14:36,340 So I'm thinking that some people are getting cut here. 315 00:14:36,342 --> 00:14:38,409 He can make people feel nauseous. 316 00:14:38,411 --> 00:14:44,482 And he causes a sense of agitation and irritability. 317 00:14:44,484 --> 00:14:46,951 So, Jon, talking to Heather, she told me that she feels 318 00:14:46,953 --> 00:14:49,754 your personality has totally changed since you moved here. 319 00:14:49,756 --> 00:14:51,022 You agree with that? 320 00:14:51,024 --> 00:14:53,591 Yes, the slightest things set me off. 321 00:14:53,593 --> 00:14:55,960 There's no reason for me to be yelling and screaming 322 00:14:55,962 --> 00:15:00,732 like I am, like that, just out of control. 323 00:15:00,734 --> 00:15:03,968 So, describe what happens when this rage comes over you. 324 00:15:03,970 --> 00:15:05,236 The best way I can describe it 325 00:15:05,238 --> 00:15:06,304 is like an out of body experience. 326 00:15:06,306 --> 00:15:07,505 Okay. 327 00:15:07,507 --> 00:15:09,374 I have no control over what's going on. 328 00:15:09,376 --> 00:15:12,576 It just takes over and I just get really irate. 329 00:15:12,578 --> 00:15:14,912 It's actually causing trouble between me and my wife, 330 00:15:14,914 --> 00:15:20,451 because she can't talk to me without me just flipping out. 331 00:15:20,453 --> 00:15:21,719 I spoke to your girls, 332 00:15:21,721 --> 00:15:23,321 and they're afraid to tell you anything. 333 00:15:23,323 --> 00:15:24,722 They're afraid you're gonna rage on them. 334 00:15:24,724 --> 00:15:27,324 That makes me feel horrible, because what father 335 00:15:27,326 --> 00:15:29,894 wants to hear that their kid is afraid of them? 336 00:15:29,896 --> 00:15:31,128 All right, anything else? 337 00:15:31,130 --> 00:15:33,397 I've been having really vivid night terrors. 338 00:15:33,399 --> 00:15:36,133 Can you describe what these dreams are about. 339 00:15:36,135 --> 00:15:37,735 Just, killing people. 340 00:15:37,737 --> 00:15:41,472 Just out of control, just really violent. 341 00:15:41,474 --> 00:15:42,974 And in every one of the dreams, 342 00:15:42,976 --> 00:15:46,143 I'm killing the people with the same knife. 343 00:15:46,145 --> 00:15:47,745 What do you think is going on here? 344 00:15:47,747 --> 00:15:49,747 Do you have any clue, any thoughts? 345 00:15:49,749 --> 00:15:51,148 A part of me does believe that something 346 00:15:51,150 --> 00:15:53,016 is trying to destroy my family. 347 00:15:53,018 --> 00:15:55,820 Okay. 348 00:15:55,822 --> 00:15:59,023 I think the cowboy guy hangs out here a lot. 349 00:15:59,025 --> 00:16:00,625 So I think that living people would 350 00:16:00,627 --> 00:16:02,626 have a lot of experiences with him. 351 00:16:02,628 --> 00:16:06,697 They might feel senses of panic and urgency to get out. 352 00:16:10,904 --> 00:16:15,373 It's making me feel sick again. 353 00:16:15,375 --> 00:16:20,244 So, I'm thinking like maybe he could cause a heart attack, 354 00:16:20,246 --> 00:16:23,448 aneurysm, but then he said accidents too. 355 00:16:23,450 --> 00:16:27,351 Like getting into accidents like where they could die. 356 00:16:27,353 --> 00:16:28,786 He's mad. 357 00:16:28,788 --> 00:16:32,223 He could make somebody kill somebody else. 358 00:16:44,537 --> 00:16:47,604 So Heather told me the former owners died in her house. 359 00:16:47,606 --> 00:16:50,908 So I called a local historian who says she's right. 360 00:16:50,910 --> 00:16:54,145 Not only that, she found even more deaths on the property. 361 00:16:54,147 --> 00:16:55,413 So it sounds like this could 362 00:16:55,415 --> 00:16:57,014 definitely help my investigation. 363 00:17:03,489 --> 00:17:04,956 So I know the previous owners 364 00:17:04,958 --> 00:17:06,957 of my clients' property died in the house. 365 00:17:06,959 --> 00:17:08,392 What can you tell me about that? 366 00:17:08,394 --> 00:17:11,395 Their names were Rayburn and Wanda Pittman. 367 00:17:11,397 --> 00:17:14,565 They bought the property in '83, and actually, 368 00:17:14,567 --> 00:17:16,600 a couple years later, built the house 369 00:17:16,602 --> 00:17:19,203 that your clients actually live in now, in 1985. 370 00:17:19,205 --> 00:17:20,704 Okay, what do you know about them? 371 00:17:20,706 --> 00:17:24,175 Rayburn was a master sergeant in the US Army. 372 00:17:24,177 --> 00:17:26,143 His wife, Wanda, also worked for the Army 373 00:17:26,145 --> 00:17:27,678 as a computer operator. 374 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,781 They were pretty religious and attended a small, 375 00:17:30,783 --> 00:17:32,650 local Baptist church in the area. 376 00:17:32,652 --> 00:17:33,951 All right, so, who dies first? 377 00:17:33,953 --> 00:17:35,419 Rayburn dies first. 378 00:17:35,421 --> 00:17:37,622 He is diagnosed in the early 2000s 379 00:17:37,624 --> 00:17:39,590 with chronic lung disease. 380 00:17:39,592 --> 00:17:42,593 And in February of 2009, he actually dies 381 00:17:42,595 --> 00:17:45,462 in the home of respiratory failure. 382 00:17:45,464 --> 00:17:48,433 Okay. 383 00:17:48,435 --> 00:17:49,967 He was only 67. 384 00:17:49,969 --> 00:17:52,269 All right, so Rayburn is dead; when does Wanda pass? 385 00:17:52,271 --> 00:17:56,274 Wanda is diagnosed in 2013 with stomach cancer, 386 00:17:56,276 --> 00:17:59,343 and she actually dies in the home, as well, in April. 387 00:17:59,345 --> 00:18:01,279 She was 72. 388 00:18:01,281 --> 00:18:02,746 So, Jen, you mentioned on the phone 389 00:18:02,748 --> 00:18:04,214 there were a couple other deaths; what were those? 390 00:18:04,216 --> 00:18:06,417 Well, actually, there was another married couple 391 00:18:06,419 --> 00:18:09,687 who both died on the property as well. 392 00:18:09,689 --> 00:18:12,623 And their names were Lena and Robert Bush. 393 00:18:12,625 --> 00:18:13,758 So what do we know about that couple? 394 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,627 Well, they bought the property in 1902. 395 00:18:16,629 --> 00:18:20,465 Lena is actually diagnosed with gastric carcinoma as well, 396 00:18:20,467 --> 00:18:24,035 in 1939; she only lives for about two months 397 00:18:24,037 --> 00:18:28,439 after the diagnosis, and she dies on that property. 398 00:18:28,441 --> 00:18:29,740 Now, what about the husband? 399 00:18:29,742 --> 00:18:31,809 He stays there for another six years, 400 00:18:31,811 --> 00:18:37,048 and in 1945, he also dies on the property of heart failure. 401 00:18:37,050 --> 00:18:39,317 So we have one married couple that actually dies 402 00:18:39,319 --> 00:18:40,785 in my clients' house. 403 00:18:40,787 --> 00:18:42,153 Right. 404 00:18:42,155 --> 00:18:43,320 And then we have another married couple that died 405 00:18:43,322 --> 00:18:45,789 on the property in the early 1900s. 406 00:18:45,791 --> 00:18:48,459 What's interesting to me is the two women 407 00:18:48,461 --> 00:18:50,261 both dying of the same disease. 408 00:18:50,263 --> 00:18:51,529 Right. 409 00:18:51,531 --> 00:18:52,730 Which is not something you hear too often. 410 00:18:52,732 --> 00:18:53,730 No. 411 00:18:58,270 --> 00:19:00,404 I don't like this dead cowboy. 412 00:19:00,406 --> 00:19:02,540 Do you know if he has any connection to the property? 413 00:19:02,542 --> 00:19:06,276 A very long time ago, I think he owned it. 414 00:19:06,278 --> 00:19:08,412 He was in the military. 415 00:19:08,414 --> 00:19:11,949 I know that he did bad things. 416 00:19:11,951 --> 00:19:13,951 He killed a lot of people when he was alive, 417 00:19:13,953 --> 00:19:17,487 but it was more like situations where you have to. 418 00:19:17,489 --> 00:19:20,557 Now he does it because he enjoys it. 419 00:19:20,559 --> 00:19:24,162 And then there's two bodies out there. 420 00:19:24,164 --> 00:19:26,096 And these are like his trophies. 421 00:19:26,098 --> 00:19:28,366 I think actually those are representations 422 00:19:28,368 --> 00:19:31,635 of people that he's killed since he's been dead. 423 00:19:31,637 --> 00:19:35,839 He killed them because they were on his land. 424 00:19:35,841 --> 00:19:38,575 It seems like they lived here. 425 00:19:38,577 --> 00:19:40,044 Can he still kill the living? 426 00:19:40,046 --> 00:19:43,647 Yeah, he's quietly doing this to people. 427 00:19:43,649 --> 00:19:48,386 I'm seeing like, accidental deaths. 428 00:19:48,388 --> 00:19:50,988 Or illnesses. 429 00:19:50,990 --> 00:19:54,859 But they're not; he's doing it. 430 00:19:59,799 --> 00:20:02,500 So I just got a call from a local crime author. 431 00:20:02,502 --> 00:20:04,468 He did some digging around for me and found out 432 00:20:04,470 --> 00:20:07,071 the most famous homicide in this town's history 433 00:20:07,073 --> 00:20:09,873 happened just a thousand yards from Heather's house. 434 00:20:09,875 --> 00:20:12,276 Not only that, the guy who pulled the trigger 435 00:20:12,278 --> 00:20:14,878 was related to one of the former owners. 436 00:20:21,354 --> 00:20:23,554 So, professor, I appreciate you meeting with me. 437 00:20:23,556 --> 00:20:26,490 I wanna hear all about this homicide, but first: 438 00:20:26,492 --> 00:20:28,059 who's the killer, and how is he connected 439 00:20:28,061 --> 00:20:29,493 to my clients' property? 440 00:20:29,495 --> 00:20:32,630 The shooter was Napoleon Bonaparte Cavari. 441 00:20:32,632 --> 00:20:34,898 He was the cousin of Benjamin Cavari, 442 00:20:34,900 --> 00:20:37,801 who was the man who would have owned your clients' property 443 00:20:37,803 --> 00:20:40,638 there in the early 1900s, at the time all this went down. 444 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,174 Okay, so what led up to the homicide? 445 00:20:43,176 --> 00:20:46,844 Napoleon had been committed to the Lexington Asylum 446 00:20:46,846 --> 00:20:52,850 by a local judge, but he is released as cured in 1909. 447 00:20:52,852 --> 00:20:56,520 That same year, on August 4, Napoleon attended 448 00:20:56,522 --> 00:21:00,191 a revival meeting at Dunnaway Methodist Church, 449 00:21:00,193 --> 00:21:02,159 and that's where this goes down. 450 00:21:02,161 --> 00:21:03,760 So, the homicide, what happened? 451 00:21:03,762 --> 00:21:05,495 Napoleon was at the church, 452 00:21:05,497 --> 00:21:07,965 there were several other people there, 453 00:21:07,967 --> 00:21:12,136 a 19 year old fella by the name of Harvey Ewan, 454 00:21:12,138 --> 00:21:15,706 and also a fella by the name of Larkin Gibson. 455 00:21:15,708 --> 00:21:17,607 We think that they may have teased him 456 00:21:17,609 --> 00:21:20,444 or said something objectionable about his time 457 00:21:20,446 --> 00:21:23,514 in the asylum, and things went downhill from there. 458 00:21:23,516 --> 00:21:26,750 And we know at some point Napoleon pulled out a gun 459 00:21:26,752 --> 00:21:28,285 and shots were fired. 460 00:21:28,287 --> 00:21:31,656 Ewan takes a round in the neck that severs his spine. 461 00:21:31,658 --> 00:21:33,691 He was instantly killed, would have gone down, 462 00:21:33,693 --> 00:21:35,159 you know, like a sack of potatoes. 463 00:21:35,161 --> 00:21:38,496 And the other fellow, Larkin, gets shot in the arm. 464 00:21:38,498 --> 00:21:40,564 All right, does he get arrested? 465 00:21:40,566 --> 00:21:41,832 Cavari leaves the church, 466 00:21:41,834 --> 00:21:43,768 but turns himself in the next day. 467 00:21:43,770 --> 00:21:45,436 I assume he goes on trial. 468 00:21:45,438 --> 00:21:47,971 Yes, and what he says is that Ewan 469 00:21:47,973 --> 00:21:51,374 came at him with a knife, so he fired in self defense. 470 00:21:51,376 --> 00:21:55,512 And they bought it, and so he was acquitted. 471 00:21:55,514 --> 00:21:56,847 What happens to this guy? 472 00:21:56,849 --> 00:21:58,382 He stayed in the neighborhood, but curiously, 473 00:21:58,384 --> 00:22:02,252 the 1930 census says that he was once again 474 00:22:02,254 --> 00:22:05,790 a patient at the Eastern State Hospital. 475 00:22:05,792 --> 00:22:07,591 That's tragic. 476 00:22:10,930 --> 00:22:14,065 I see this crazy man come forward. 477 00:22:14,067 --> 00:22:16,934 And he's completely nude. 478 00:22:16,936 --> 00:22:20,805 The only thing he kept saying, over and over again, is: 479 00:22:20,807 --> 00:22:23,340 "Help me get out, help me get out." 480 00:22:23,342 --> 00:22:28,678 He's obviously, you know, mentally unstable. 481 00:22:30,750 --> 00:22:32,816 I'm seeing handful of women. 482 00:22:32,818 --> 00:22:37,454 They're all crying and they're all dressed like Mormons. 483 00:22:37,456 --> 00:22:39,356 Somebody's getting stabbed. 484 00:22:39,358 --> 00:22:42,392 And I'm getting that stabbing pain again. 485 00:22:52,572 --> 00:22:54,772 For more information about the show, 486 00:22:54,774 --> 00:22:57,374 and if you need us to investigate unexplained activity 487 00:22:57,376 --> 00:22:58,575 in your home-- 488 00:22:58,577 --> 00:23:01,779 Please visit TravelChannel.com/TheDeadFiles. 489 00:23:01,781 --> 00:23:04,181 Click on "Help Me, Dead Files" to submit your story, 490 00:23:04,183 --> 00:23:05,049 and we'll help if we can. 491 00:23:13,492 --> 00:23:15,091 So far I've got a client who believes 492 00:23:15,093 --> 00:23:17,027 the paranormal is targeting her family, 493 00:23:17,029 --> 00:23:22,600 on a property where two married couples died. 494 00:23:22,602 --> 00:23:26,971 But I wanna see if there's anything else. 495 00:23:26,973 --> 00:23:29,973 Searching through old records, I come across a mass drowning 496 00:23:29,975 --> 00:23:33,477 of several young kids; turns out this tragedy happened 497 00:23:33,479 --> 00:23:38,149 only a mile from Heather and Jon's property. 498 00:23:38,151 --> 00:23:40,518 So, I'm headed over to meet a local genealogist 499 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,019 who's looking into this for me. 500 00:23:42,021 --> 00:23:44,688 She told me this tragedy was a freak accident, 501 00:23:44,690 --> 00:23:47,257 and these kids never stood a chance. 502 00:23:55,334 --> 00:23:58,135 I know a bunch of kids drowned right by my client's property. 503 00:23:58,137 --> 00:23:59,536 What can you tell me about it? 504 00:23:59,538 --> 00:24:03,240 Well, on July 30, 1892, nine boys, 505 00:24:03,242 --> 00:24:06,943 ranging in age from four to 16, met at the Red River. 506 00:24:06,945 --> 00:24:08,112 So what happened? 507 00:24:08,114 --> 00:24:10,247 So they loaded in a boat and were pushed across 508 00:24:10,249 --> 00:24:12,349 to a sandbar beach in the middle of the river, 509 00:24:12,351 --> 00:24:14,118 and they were apparently gonna spend the day 510 00:24:14,120 --> 00:24:16,286 cooling off and playing in the river. 511 00:24:16,288 --> 00:24:17,688 All right, so what went wrong? 512 00:24:17,690 --> 00:24:19,656 On the return trip back to the shore, 513 00:24:19,658 --> 00:24:22,559 that's when the catastrophe unfolded. 514 00:24:22,561 --> 00:24:23,961 They lost control of the boat, 515 00:24:23,963 --> 00:24:26,763 then the kids inside the boat started freaking out, 516 00:24:26,765 --> 00:24:30,434 and the resulting chaos caused the boat to turn over, 517 00:24:30,436 --> 00:24:33,203 and all of them wound up in the river. 518 00:24:33,205 --> 00:24:34,338 What happened after that? 519 00:24:34,340 --> 00:24:36,573 Well, one kid knew how to swim, 520 00:24:36,575 --> 00:24:38,175 so he was able to grab another kid, 521 00:24:38,177 --> 00:24:40,244 and they were able to make it to the shore. 522 00:24:40,246 --> 00:24:41,779 Okay, so that's two that survived. 523 00:24:41,781 --> 00:24:44,314 Then one boy was able to grab on to the overturned boat, 524 00:24:44,316 --> 00:24:46,183 and he was able to paddle to the river's edge, 525 00:24:46,185 --> 00:24:47,584 and they got him out. 526 00:24:47,586 --> 00:24:49,987 Okay, so that's three boys out of the nine. 527 00:24:49,989 --> 00:24:51,589 What happens to the remaining six. 528 00:24:51,591 --> 00:24:53,991 The other six remained beneath the river's surface. 529 00:24:53,993 --> 00:24:55,592 They drowned. 530 00:24:55,594 --> 00:25:00,364 It was nightfall before they recovered all of the bodies. 531 00:25:00,366 --> 00:25:02,299 They were buried the next day. 532 00:25:02,301 --> 00:25:04,134 The families decided, because the boys were 533 00:25:04,136 --> 00:25:06,403 such good friends, and they were brothers, 534 00:25:06,405 --> 00:25:10,074 that they would all be buried together in one grave. 535 00:25:10,076 --> 00:25:11,742 What a shame. 536 00:25:16,081 --> 00:25:19,583 I saw these two little kids, definitely boys. 537 00:25:19,585 --> 00:25:21,551 They were dressed like twins. 538 00:25:21,553 --> 00:25:24,221 They were probably four years old. 539 00:25:24,223 --> 00:25:26,823 They were laughing, playing, running. 540 00:25:26,825 --> 00:25:31,028 It's weird, because I think that they died. 541 00:25:32,832 --> 00:25:35,966 How'd they die? I don't know. 542 00:25:43,175 --> 00:25:46,777 No. There's more dead kids back here. 543 00:25:46,779 --> 00:25:50,714 Some children had graves, very nice graves. 544 00:25:50,716 --> 00:25:53,517 But there's something not right about the others. 545 00:25:53,519 --> 00:25:57,187 I got a mass grave, and I do feel like this 546 00:25:57,189 --> 00:25:58,588 is somewhere around here, 547 00:25:58,590 --> 00:26:01,392 and it would be like, one, two, three, 548 00:26:01,394 --> 00:26:04,862 four, five, buried in pine boxes. 549 00:26:04,864 --> 00:26:08,399 And then they were like, stacked in this deep hole. 550 00:26:16,475 --> 00:26:18,475 What's this thing? 551 00:26:24,216 --> 00:26:26,449 What is this? 552 00:26:26,451 --> 00:26:29,586 Is this a cemetery? 553 00:26:29,588 --> 00:26:32,956 And they're seeping out of the earth. 554 00:26:32,958 --> 00:26:35,359 And it makes people sick. 555 00:26:43,636 --> 00:26:46,536 I saw several horrifying things during my walk, 556 00:26:46,538 --> 00:26:49,440 but the black shadow snakes attacking a living person 557 00:26:49,442 --> 00:26:52,142 had me the most concerned. 558 00:26:52,144 --> 00:26:56,913 Hovering over the headboard is this tuxedo outfit. 559 00:26:56,915 --> 00:27:00,250 There's no head or hands or lower portion. 560 00:27:00,252 --> 00:27:03,019 There were like, these little black shadow snakes, 561 00:27:03,021 --> 00:27:04,454 and they were coming out of it, 562 00:27:04,456 --> 00:27:08,425 and they were going into the person that's in the bed. 563 00:27:17,203 --> 00:27:20,504 Amy, is this what you saw? 564 00:27:20,506 --> 00:27:23,540 Yes, that's what I saw. 565 00:27:43,695 --> 00:27:46,697 Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations, 566 00:27:46,699 --> 00:27:48,832 we're ready to reveal our findings to each other 567 00:27:48,834 --> 00:27:51,902 and our clients for the first time. 568 00:27:51,904 --> 00:27:52,903 Well, Amy, I'd like you to meet 569 00:27:52,905 --> 00:27:54,972 Heather and her husband, Jon. 570 00:27:54,974 --> 00:27:57,974 They live here with Jon's mother, Jennifer, 571 00:27:57,976 --> 00:28:00,444 right here, and their three sweet kids. 572 00:28:00,446 --> 00:28:04,648 Now, this is Ayliana who's 11, little Jon who's three. 573 00:28:04,650 --> 00:28:06,316 This is Annalysa who's 10. 574 00:28:06,318 --> 00:28:08,719 Now, Heather called us in because something here 575 00:28:08,721 --> 00:28:14,924 is attacking the kids and destroying their marriage. 576 00:28:14,926 --> 00:28:18,094 So, now that Amy knows who lives here and a little bit 577 00:28:18,096 --> 00:28:20,330 about you guys, I'll ask her to describe her walk. 578 00:28:24,236 --> 00:28:28,005 When I first got here, I walked into the bedroom 579 00:28:28,007 --> 00:28:30,474 that's right by the laundry room. 580 00:28:30,476 --> 00:28:32,943 That's Jennifer's bedroom. 581 00:28:32,945 --> 00:28:35,579 There was an insane amount of energy 582 00:28:35,581 --> 00:28:37,948 just emanating from that room 583 00:28:37,950 --> 00:28:41,618 and I got that this was coming from a living woman, 584 00:28:41,620 --> 00:28:46,256 this energy and that woman seemed to be 585 00:28:46,258 --> 00:28:49,293 extremely stressed out and I saw her yelling 586 00:28:49,295 --> 00:28:52,095 and screaming and freaking out. 587 00:28:52,097 --> 00:28:58,402 I got that this woman has PK abilities, so psychokinesis, 588 00:28:58,404 --> 00:29:01,771 which means that she can affect her environment 589 00:29:01,773 --> 00:29:04,440 in a physical way without even being aware 590 00:29:04,442 --> 00:29:07,044 that she's capable of doing this. 591 00:29:07,046 --> 00:29:09,613 So things might move on their own, 592 00:29:09,615 --> 00:29:11,715 doors could open and close. 593 00:29:11,717 --> 00:29:16,319 If she were to get extremely upset with somebody 594 00:29:16,321 --> 00:29:18,655 she could unintentionally hurt them. 595 00:29:18,657 --> 00:29:22,593 So it can be dangerous. 596 00:29:22,595 --> 00:29:24,761 All right well, there's a lot of things that you're talking 597 00:29:24,763 --> 00:29:27,030 about our clients here have been experiencing. 598 00:29:27,032 --> 00:29:29,132 Jon tell Amy about the cow skull. 599 00:29:29,134 --> 00:29:31,668 Yeah, we have a cow skull that we hang 600 00:29:31,670 --> 00:29:34,604 up on the wall for decoration. 601 00:29:34,606 --> 00:29:35,939 There was nobody in the room when the next thing we knew 602 00:29:35,941 --> 00:29:38,875 I heard a big crash and I look back 603 00:29:38,877 --> 00:29:44,014 and the cow skull was laying over in front of the microwave. 604 00:29:44,016 --> 00:29:46,016 Heather do me a favor, talk about 605 00:29:46,018 --> 00:29:47,917 the coffee mug in the kitchen. 606 00:29:47,919 --> 00:29:50,119 My daughter and I were doing the dishes 607 00:29:50,121 --> 00:29:52,956 and the coffee mug flew from the hook 608 00:29:52,958 --> 00:29:55,425 to the opposite side of the sink 609 00:29:55,427 --> 00:29:57,561 and about hit my daughter in the head. 610 00:29:57,563 --> 00:29:59,029 Which daughter was it that... 611 00:29:59,031 --> 00:30:01,164 It was Ayliana. 612 00:30:01,166 --> 00:30:06,637 Okay, I did get that she has abilities. 613 00:30:06,639 --> 00:30:11,308 She's actually the one has seen the most objects moving. 614 00:30:11,310 --> 00:30:13,443 Okay, yeah. 615 00:30:13,445 --> 00:30:14,911 Correct me if I'm wrong. 616 00:30:14,913 --> 00:30:16,446 Sounds like Jon's mom and their oldest daughter 617 00:30:16,448 --> 00:30:19,749 are causing a lot of the activity that's going on. 618 00:30:27,192 --> 00:30:30,327 So I wanted to discuss this deceased male 619 00:30:30,329 --> 00:30:34,131 that I encountered and he is the main 620 00:30:34,133 --> 00:30:36,333 deceased individual in your house. 621 00:30:36,335 --> 00:30:39,269 He seemed to be in his late 60s, 622 00:30:39,271 --> 00:30:41,738 I think he used to own the place. 623 00:30:41,740 --> 00:30:44,274 He died rather recently, I would have put 624 00:30:44,276 --> 00:30:47,143 his death in and around the early 2000s. 625 00:30:47,145 --> 00:30:50,347 He's extremely religious person. 626 00:30:50,349 --> 00:30:52,282 He says that everything here is, up 627 00:30:52,284 --> 00:30:55,352 and it's not what he wanted. 628 00:30:55,354 --> 00:30:58,355 And the weird thing with him was he kept saying 629 00:30:58,357 --> 00:31:00,891 like he wanted to blind you guys. 630 00:31:00,893 --> 00:31:05,329 He didn't mean it literally, what he's trying to relay 631 00:31:05,331 --> 00:31:09,032 is that he wants to remove the distractions from your lives 632 00:31:09,034 --> 00:31:11,434 so that you can look inside of yourselves 633 00:31:11,436 --> 00:31:14,037 and deal with the issues that you guys are having 634 00:31:14,039 --> 00:31:17,274 and what's going on inside of you. 635 00:31:17,276 --> 00:31:19,542 Well, based on the age and time period, 636 00:31:19,544 --> 00:31:21,811 I'm pretty sure I know who you saw. 637 00:31:21,813 --> 00:31:23,680 Now, the couple that lived here before Heather and Jon 638 00:31:23,682 --> 00:31:26,783 were Rayburn and Wanda Pitt. 639 00:31:26,785 --> 00:31:28,251 Now they were both pretty involved 640 00:31:28,253 --> 00:31:31,054 in the local Baptist Church here. 641 00:31:31,056 --> 00:31:33,390 Now they built this house in 1985 642 00:31:33,392 --> 00:31:36,059 and both of them actually died in the house. 643 00:31:36,061 --> 00:31:36,994 Okay. 644 00:31:36,996 --> 00:31:38,862 Now Rayburn died in the house 645 00:31:38,864 --> 00:31:41,331 of respiratory failure in 2009. 646 00:31:41,333 --> 00:31:44,000 This is his death certificate. 647 00:31:44,002 --> 00:31:45,702 And he was 67 years old. 648 00:31:45,704 --> 00:31:46,736 Okay. 649 00:31:46,738 --> 00:31:49,006 Now Wanda stayed in the house 650 00:31:49,008 --> 00:31:51,808 and she died in 2013 of stomach cancer. 651 00:31:51,810 --> 00:31:53,009 The stomach thing. 652 00:31:53,011 --> 00:31:55,112 She was about 72. 653 00:31:58,283 --> 00:32:00,216 So you think the old man you saw 654 00:32:00,218 --> 00:32:02,853 could've been this guy Rayburn Pittman? 655 00:32:02,855 --> 00:32:05,122 Yeah, I think more than likely. 656 00:32:05,124 --> 00:32:09,559 But it doesn't seem like he was, like a bad person, 657 00:32:09,561 --> 00:32:14,097 he's just very religious and he doesn't like 658 00:32:14,099 --> 00:32:16,299 some of the fighting he sees in the house. 659 00:32:16,301 --> 00:32:19,569 A lot of what she's saying is just making so much sense. 660 00:32:19,571 --> 00:32:22,972 We argue and fight and so it's just 661 00:32:22,974 --> 00:32:25,809 with him being so angry it feels 662 00:32:25,811 --> 00:32:29,713 like he's trying to stop us from arguing with each other. 663 00:32:32,451 --> 00:32:33,783 So what else? 664 00:32:33,785 --> 00:32:37,988 I did meet another guy, 665 00:32:37,990 --> 00:32:39,856 but he stays outside. 666 00:32:39,858 --> 00:32:42,125 He is a problem. 667 00:32:42,127 --> 00:32:45,062 I think he owned the property back, like 1860s 668 00:32:45,064 --> 00:32:47,597 and he looks like a typical cowboy. 669 00:32:47,599 --> 00:32:49,466 One of the things that stood out about him 670 00:32:49,468 --> 00:32:51,267 was that he was always carrying knives. 671 00:32:51,269 --> 00:32:54,738 He was definitely former military 672 00:32:54,740 --> 00:32:57,274 and he killed a lot of people when he was alive 673 00:32:57,276 --> 00:33:00,410 but, as he put it, only because I had to. 674 00:33:00,412 --> 00:33:04,280 Now that he's dead, he's still killing people. 675 00:33:04,282 --> 00:33:06,282 And it's because he likes it. 676 00:33:06,284 --> 00:33:10,820 He showed me a couple of bodies and these are his trophies 677 00:33:10,822 --> 00:33:14,224 of people that he's killed since he's been deceased. 678 00:33:14,226 --> 00:33:18,829 And the way that he can cause people's deaths 679 00:33:18,831 --> 00:33:22,232 were sudden heart attack, aneurysms 680 00:33:22,234 --> 00:33:26,703 and other very deadly illnesses. 681 00:33:26,705 --> 00:33:28,238 All right, so you said this guy 682 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,873 causes people to die of disease on the property. 683 00:33:30,875 --> 00:33:32,976 So I already told you about Rayburn and Wanda Pittman, 684 00:33:32,978 --> 00:33:34,578 a couple who died in the house. 685 00:33:34,580 --> 00:33:36,112 Long before there was a house here, 686 00:33:36,114 --> 00:33:38,782 there was another married couple who died on the property. 687 00:33:38,784 --> 00:33:42,319 Robert and Lena Bush bought this land back in 1902. 688 00:33:42,321 --> 00:33:48,658 Now in 1939 Lena Bush died here of stomach cancer. 689 00:33:48,660 --> 00:33:52,062 Same disease as Wanda Pittman. 690 00:33:52,064 --> 00:33:56,466 I kept having horrible horrible stomach issues. 691 00:33:56,468 --> 00:34:00,537 And 1945, Robert Bush died of heart disease. 692 00:34:00,539 --> 00:34:02,839 Here's his death certificate; he was 81. 693 00:34:02,841 --> 00:34:05,041 So could this cowboy have anything 694 00:34:05,043 --> 00:34:06,476 to do with these four deaths? 695 00:34:06,478 --> 00:34:09,679 Yes, I think the stomach cancers and the heart. 696 00:34:09,681 --> 00:34:11,614 I don't know about the respiratory, 697 00:34:11,616 --> 00:34:13,283 doesn't feel right to me. 698 00:34:13,285 --> 00:34:16,419 You're blowing my mind, dude. 699 00:34:16,421 --> 00:34:17,587 Now do you think it's something 700 00:34:17,589 --> 00:34:19,155 that he's tryna do to these two? 701 00:34:19,157 --> 00:34:22,358 Yeah... 702 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,095 It scares me actually. 703 00:34:25,097 --> 00:34:27,397 I don't wanna die at a young age. 704 00:34:27,399 --> 00:34:29,099 So this cowboy's tryna kill 'em. 705 00:34:29,101 --> 00:34:31,701 Any other way he can do it besides making them sick? 706 00:34:31,703 --> 00:34:33,035 Yes. 707 00:34:33,037 --> 00:34:37,340 I think that he can get violent with the living. 708 00:34:37,342 --> 00:34:40,443 When I was looking at him I'm looking up, like OK. 709 00:34:40,445 --> 00:34:44,948 And he flung his arm and hand at me and it became a knife. 710 00:34:44,950 --> 00:34:47,817 It almost felt like something was being stabbed there. 711 00:34:47,819 --> 00:34:51,822 He can definitely affect moods, irritated, angry. 712 00:34:51,824 --> 00:34:55,458 He can probably influence the living 713 00:34:55,460 --> 00:34:59,395 and make them angry enough to kill. 714 00:34:59,397 --> 00:35:00,864 So one of the biggest reasons 715 00:35:00,866 --> 00:35:02,065 we were called in by Heather is 716 00:35:02,067 --> 00:35:06,469 because of the rage that John is expressing. 717 00:35:06,471 --> 00:35:09,339 When I walk in the house, I'm... 718 00:35:09,341 --> 00:35:12,809 I turn into a completely different person. 719 00:35:12,811 --> 00:35:17,146 The slightest thing will set me off and I'll start screaming 720 00:35:17,148 --> 00:35:21,484 and I've punched the wall in the bedroom. 721 00:35:21,486 --> 00:35:25,288 When we first got together we were happy as can be 722 00:35:25,290 --> 00:35:28,024 but now it's just, I'm honest to God 723 00:35:28,026 --> 00:35:31,661 I'm so sick of fighting with him. 724 00:35:31,663 --> 00:35:33,295 I spoke to your mom and the girls 725 00:35:33,297 --> 00:35:34,497 and they all say they've noticed the change in you. 726 00:35:34,499 --> 00:35:37,467 But you also told me that you felt 727 00:35:37,469 --> 00:35:39,102 you were being influenced. 728 00:35:39,104 --> 00:35:41,137 Tell her about your night terrors. 729 00:35:41,139 --> 00:35:45,708 I have these night terrors where I'm 730 00:35:45,710 --> 00:35:49,245 physically killing somebody, different people 731 00:35:49,247 --> 00:35:54,784 and every dream I'm using a knife. 732 00:35:54,786 --> 00:35:59,556 I'm doing horrible things to 'em. 733 00:35:59,558 --> 00:36:02,926 So do you think this cowboy could be influencing Jon 734 00:36:02,928 --> 00:36:04,794 and giving him these damn nightmares? 735 00:36:04,796 --> 00:36:06,329 It is very possible. 736 00:36:06,331 --> 00:36:10,133 He could be influencing you and jumping you. 737 00:36:12,471 --> 00:36:14,070 Is there anything else? 738 00:36:14,072 --> 00:36:18,408 Then I encountered a very unusual entity here. 739 00:36:18,410 --> 00:36:21,277 It's very very strange so just bear with me. 740 00:36:21,279 --> 00:36:24,347 What it looks like is if somebody hung 741 00:36:24,349 --> 00:36:25,949 the top of a tuxedo, 742 00:36:25,951 --> 00:36:29,953 so there's like this jacket, a vest and a shirt. 743 00:36:29,955 --> 00:36:32,689 And it also has these, like, 744 00:36:32,691 --> 00:36:36,026 snake-like things that are black, 745 00:36:36,028 --> 00:36:39,495 that come off of it and are always around it. 746 00:36:39,497 --> 00:36:42,165 I've seen snakes were underneath the door, 747 00:36:42,167 --> 00:36:45,302 like they were just kinda going back and forth like this 748 00:36:45,304 --> 00:36:47,370 and I flung the door open and... 749 00:36:47,372 --> 00:36:49,706 Nobody was there. Nobody was there. 750 00:36:49,708 --> 00:36:52,241 I also got that it was a deceased individual 751 00:36:52,243 --> 00:36:55,211 from somewhere else, possibly a living person 752 00:36:55,213 --> 00:36:59,382 unknowingly brought it here from another place. 753 00:36:59,384 --> 00:37:03,853 And this can happen when living people visit haunted locations. 754 00:37:03,855 --> 00:37:06,990 These two visited a couple pretty famous haunted places. 755 00:37:06,992 --> 00:37:08,858 You went to the Queen Mary, right? Tell that. 756 00:37:08,860 --> 00:37:10,860 Queen Mary. 757 00:37:10,862 --> 00:37:16,399 And Jon went to the Waverly Hills Sanatorium, its called. 758 00:37:16,401 --> 00:37:17,600 Now, could they have brought something 759 00:37:17,602 --> 00:37:19,069 home from one of these places? 760 00:37:19,071 --> 00:37:22,605 It is very possible. 761 00:37:22,607 --> 00:37:24,006 All right, so what does this thing do? 762 00:37:24,008 --> 00:37:27,309 It would instill fear and panic. 763 00:37:27,311 --> 00:37:30,280 I think the living might see it as a shadow person. 764 00:37:30,282 --> 00:37:33,016 Heather you told me you've seen shadow figures. 765 00:37:33,018 --> 00:37:35,018 It's very active in the front room 766 00:37:35,020 --> 00:37:37,319 with the two beds in it. 767 00:37:37,321 --> 00:37:40,890 - That's where the girls sleep. - Really... 768 00:37:40,892 --> 00:37:43,426 I had a sketch done of what I saw. 769 00:37:53,238 --> 00:37:57,574 This is hard for a parent to see. 770 00:38:04,382 --> 00:38:07,216 That's exactly what Annalysa described to me. 771 00:38:11,489 --> 00:38:15,858 I'm scared for her but I don't know what to do for them. 772 00:38:15,860 --> 00:38:17,827 I've never felt more helpless in my life. 773 00:38:17,829 --> 00:38:20,663 To know that something's attacking my kids 774 00:38:20,665 --> 00:38:23,933 and I can't do anything about it. 775 00:38:23,935 --> 00:38:26,002 What exactly are these? 776 00:38:26,004 --> 00:38:29,272 Those are, like, little snake things. 777 00:38:29,274 --> 00:38:31,274 The can go inside of the body, 778 00:38:31,276 --> 00:38:35,745 specifically they were aiming for brain. 779 00:38:35,747 --> 00:38:39,816 They could cause issues in other organs as well, 780 00:38:39,818 --> 00:38:42,285 lots of health problems. 781 00:38:42,287 --> 00:38:46,756 It needs to be dealt with, like, immediately. 782 00:38:46,758 --> 00:38:48,825 What could happen to these kids 783 00:38:48,827 --> 00:38:50,426 from these snake-like things? 784 00:38:50,428 --> 00:38:54,297 Memory issues, sleep issues, 785 00:38:54,299 --> 00:38:56,466 it could cause personality changes, 786 00:38:56,468 --> 00:38:59,702 you know a lot of things that could happen. 787 00:38:59,704 --> 00:39:00,904 I mean, I knew it was bad 788 00:39:00,906 --> 00:39:02,839 but I didn't know it was this bad. 789 00:39:02,841 --> 00:39:07,710 I don't know what to do, I can't fight it physically, you know. 790 00:39:23,395 --> 00:39:26,295 So Heather, Jon, you've heard a lot of information tonight 791 00:39:26,297 --> 00:39:29,098 and probably a hell of a lot more than you've bargained for. 792 00:39:29,100 --> 00:39:31,401 Obviously this place is dangerous. 793 00:39:31,403 --> 00:39:32,768 Now it's time to find out if there's 794 00:39:32,770 --> 00:39:34,737 anything you can do to fix it so you can 795 00:39:34,739 --> 00:39:38,975 protect your kids and save your marriage. 796 00:39:38,977 --> 00:39:40,810 For that I'm gonna turn it over to Amy. 797 00:39:44,282 --> 00:39:45,448 There's quite a few things 798 00:39:45,450 --> 00:39:49,285 that you guys are gonna need to do. 799 00:39:49,287 --> 00:39:52,288 So the first thing is the need to control the PK. 800 00:39:52,290 --> 00:39:55,525 I'd like you to get a video of tai chi 801 00:39:55,527 --> 00:39:59,996 that Ayliana and your mother can watch three times per week. 802 00:39:59,998 --> 00:40:05,467 This'll help with balancing their energy and controlling it. 803 00:40:05,469 --> 00:40:08,137 Next there's a team that I'll refer you to 804 00:40:08,139 --> 00:40:14,009 who can help you deal with the cowboy and moving him on. 805 00:40:14,011 --> 00:40:17,046 He must be detached from you. 806 00:40:17,048 --> 00:40:18,948 The second thing is, is that they will 807 00:40:18,950 --> 00:40:24,320 then remove him from the land, okay? 808 00:40:24,322 --> 00:40:25,988 As for this thing, the team will work 809 00:40:25,990 --> 00:40:31,194 to send that guy back to where he came from. 810 00:40:31,196 --> 00:40:32,494 So once this thing is gone 811 00:40:32,496 --> 00:40:33,829 they won't see the shadows anymore. 812 00:40:33,831 --> 00:40:35,865 No. What about physical activity? 813 00:40:35,867 --> 00:40:37,800 Yeah, that'll get so much better. 814 00:40:37,802 --> 00:40:41,404 Now what about our dead guy, Rayburn? 815 00:40:41,406 --> 00:40:44,073 He's upset with you guys, he said. 816 00:40:44,075 --> 00:40:46,442 He would like to see you guys in marriage counseling 817 00:40:46,444 --> 00:40:50,479 to work on communication skills. 818 00:40:50,481 --> 00:40:55,685 Once this is done, Rayburn will likely leave on his own. 819 00:40:55,687 --> 00:40:58,354 I feel like we can get back to the way things were. 820 00:40:58,356 --> 00:40:59,689 Good. 821 00:40:59,691 --> 00:41:00,957 When you called us, you were worried about protecting 822 00:41:00,959 --> 00:41:02,291 your kids and saving your marriage. 823 00:41:02,293 --> 00:41:04,227 You got the tools now, whether you implement 824 00:41:04,229 --> 00:41:08,431 them or not is on you, and you. 825 00:41:08,433 --> 00:41:09,832 You gonna take Amy's advice? 826 00:41:09,834 --> 00:41:11,034 - Yes. - Yes. 827 00:41:11,036 --> 00:41:14,370 - Okay. - It's getting started tomorrow. 828 00:41:14,372 --> 00:41:18,941 I wanna get rid of whatever's attacking the kids. 829 00:41:18,943 --> 00:41:21,110 I have a lot of hope now that I'll have 830 00:41:21,112 --> 00:41:23,712 my family back the way it was. 831 00:41:23,714 --> 00:41:28,517 So I think this is something that'll be good for all of us. 832 00:41:28,519 --> 00:41:30,753 It won't be easy but if Heather and John contact 833 00:41:30,755 --> 00:41:33,990 the team of mediums to remove the negative dead, 834 00:41:33,992 --> 00:41:35,858 they can begin to resolve their problems 835 00:41:35,860 --> 00:41:37,126 through marriage counseling. 836 00:41:37,128 --> 00:41:40,263 That along with tai chi will help balance the energy 837 00:41:40,265 --> 00:41:42,331 in the home and this family can 838 00:41:42,333 --> 00:41:44,801 find the peace it's been looking for. 839 00:41:44,851 --> 00:41:49,401 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 65045

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