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There are so many dead people.
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I hear, "Crime scene,
crime scene."
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There's no way that I will ever
live in this house again.
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It seems like chaos.
It's just, like, chaos.
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You're lucky you
didn't get killed.
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I'm scared to death.
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He's not okay.
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It's just out of control.
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This seems like a possession.
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My name is Amy Allan.
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Everything was built on blood.
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I see dead people.
Very disturbing.
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I speak to dead people.
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There's victims around him.
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Ow.
And they speak to me.
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Her voice sounds like death.
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But there's only one way
to know if my findings are real.
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The living don't
stand a chance here.
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I rely on my partner.
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I'm Steve Di Schiavi.
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I'm a retired New York City
homicide detective.
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You could've got killed.
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I know ever person,
every house has secrets.
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This has come
straight from hell.
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It's my job to reveal them.
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Your mom was murdered,
right here, in this room.
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Yes. She was.
But Steve and I never speak...
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We never communicate
during an investigation...
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...until the very end...
This was just the beginning.
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when we uncover if it's safe
for you to stay...
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Oh, my God.
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...or time to get out.
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They're very bad.
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This house
is going to kill me.
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I'm in the tiny Ozarks
town of Brumley, Missouri.
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Population 91.
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I got called in by
a guy named Nick.
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Now, he grew up here
and came back with his wife.
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And they bought
a little B&B.
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Problem is,
the activity's out of control.
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Nick says Amy and I
are his last hope
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to save his marriage,
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his business,
and maybe even his town.
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Before Amy arrives,
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I need to make sure
any photographs,
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religious symbols,
or personal items
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that may influence her
findings are removed
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or hidden from sight.
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When I'm finished,
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the location will be ready
for tonight's walk.
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Oh.
There are so many dead people.
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And it's almost like
you're bumping into people.
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There's, like, these two
dominant dead people
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that are here.
They were very tran--
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like, translucent-looking,
like, um, water.
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One is a woman.
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She thinks that
living people play games
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with her or something.
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Then, uh, there's a male.
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They hide in the walls
and they watch.
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But I caught the male.
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And he came out of the wall.
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And he was walking
through a hallway.
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And he said, uh,
"Why won't they let me go?
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I need to go."
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So, Nick, once I found
out you were a former Marine
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and a former cop,
like myself,
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I had to take the case.
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What's goin' on?
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We have this
beautiful house
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that we bought to
live in forever.
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It was gonna be
our retirement home.
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But we started to find
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that there was
paranormal activity
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that increased and increased
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and got so bad
that my wife
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won't even step
in the house anymore.
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We actually had
to move out of this house
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because of everything
that was happening.
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Unless whatever's
in here is gone,
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I'm not gonna be able
to get her to move back in.
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So you got this
beautiful place,
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but you guys
can't live in it?
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I could, but I'd be
living here alone.
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How much did you
put into this place?
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We sunk a ton of time
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and money and effort
into restoring it.
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This is an old building,
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and there's a lot of history,
I'm sure,
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but anything
that you might know
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that can give me
a lead on my investigation?
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Probably biggest thing
is that it was a doctor's office
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for many years.
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Okay. What made you
turn it into a B&B?
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I just couldn't fathom
leaving this place empty.
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Has the activity affected
your customers?
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Quite a bit.
In 6 months,
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we lost 14 couples
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that didn't make it
through the night here.
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They just left?
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They got too creeped out,
packed their bags, left.
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I was really afraid that
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we were gonna have
to close the doors.
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And then, all of a sudden,
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we started having
people calling us
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because they have heard about
the paranormal activity.
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And because of that,
they wanted to come here.
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So now it is
a haunted bed-and-breakfast.
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Okay.
So let me get this straight.
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So it's now no longer
a regular B&B?
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Yep.
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And you're advertising
it like that?
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- We are.
- Big problem for Amy.
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- Mm-hmm.
- Just so you know.
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If we had not catered
to that group
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of people, we would've
gone out of business.
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And the house would be
sitting empty today.
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Tell me about some
of the activity.
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A constant banging...
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the feeling of being
watched, apparitions,
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shadows,
and major health issues.
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What kind of major health
issues and who?
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It was my wife.
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She'd become sick
in this house.
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When we moved,
she got better.
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If Amy tells you that
you could keep the place,
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but you can't run it
as a haunted attraction anymore,
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what would you do?
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If we closed it
as a haunted bed-and-breakfast,
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we'd disappoint
a lot of people.
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The translucent guy who
hides in the walls,
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he's pissed.
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He, I know, does stuff
to the living directly.
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So he's upset.
And he wants out of here,
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um, pretty desperately,
actually.
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I don't know
who's keeping him here.
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I'm, like, seeing, like,
all these things,
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like him, like,
being on camera.
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I'm definitely thinking
that people come here.
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Or they're doing
something here with,
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like, recording or videoing
or something with him.
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Is this one of the rooms
you rent out to guests?
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We do rent this out
to our guests.
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And this also was
the hospital room
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where sick patients
were treated by the doctor.
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A lot of people passed
in this room.
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This is the most active room
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in the house
for paranormal activity.
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Okay.
So what are the experiences?
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They just feel like there
is something or someone
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standing in the room
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watching them
that they can't see.
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- Have you ever felt that?
- Many times.
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All right, Nick.
Anything else?
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I heard a woman
absolutely sobbing.
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And now we have
visitors that hear her.
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And the big thing is
the banging noises that...
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I've heard it,
our guests hear it.
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Sounds like it's coming
from the attic.
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- You sure it's not rodents?
- Absolutely not.
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The structure is checked
on a regular basis
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by a professional.
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No animal activity up
there at all.
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These translucent dead people,
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they like to stare
at the living.
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And there's a lot of issues
with the walls.
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Because they travel
through the walls,
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because they live
mostly in the walls,
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you know, you would get
your knocks and bangs
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and all this kind of.
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But the woman really
makes a lot of noise
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when she sees this
other dead guy.
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She starts crying
when he's around.
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Okay.
She's slightly hysterical now.
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I think people would
hear her crying, yelling.
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It's just out of control.
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So, Nick, when a client
brings me to staircases,
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I know it's not good.
So what happened.
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Well, I'd been up
here working one day.
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And as I came down
the stairs,
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I felt like a grown man
had come up behind me
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and assaulted me
and just hit me, flat-handed,
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right in
my shoulder blades.
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And I was able to catch myself
on the banister
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to keep from going
all the way to the bottom.
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Okay. You're
lucky you didn't get killed.
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Very!
If I'd gone down those stairs,
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I might not be here today.
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What are you hoping to get out
of this investigation?
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Want to find out what is here
and get rid of
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anything that's bad,
anything that's gonna harm us
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or our staff or our guests.
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And, eventually,
get it to where Marcy
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and I can move
back in here,
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live here, retire here.
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The dead guy lurking
in the walls,
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he is very physical.
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And he comes out
from the walls over beds.
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He likes to poke
the people in the faces
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when he comes out
of the walls, over the beds,
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to get their attention so that
maybe they'll talk to him.
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So he can tell them
that he needs help to get out.
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I feel very uncomfortable.
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So, Marcy, the house
must really upset you
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for not wanting to even
do the interview inside.
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Yes.
It scared me.
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It scared me
deep into my soul.
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I can't live here.
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- What have you experienced?
- When we first moved in,
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I looked over into the corner
of the dining room,
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and I saw a white fog.
And it just --
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It just hovered
there in the corner,
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where the two walls meet.
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And all of a sudden,
it just went -- shoom --
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right up into the ceiling,
disappeared.
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Okay.
So, smoke wouldn't do that.
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No.
It wouldn't stick around then move.
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No. And we don't allow smoking
in the house anyway.
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Okay.
So, anything else goin' on?
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Well, whenever I walked
around the house,
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I heard
footsteps behind me.
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I think it was
possibly a soldier.
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And he was pacing his steps
like a soldier does.
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- So like a march?
- Yeah.
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Well, that would have
to scare the hell out of you.
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Mm-hmm.
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So, Marcy, when I was talking
to Nick, he was telling me
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that you've had
some health issues
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when you moved in here.
What was going on.
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I had a preexisting condition
called cardiomyopathy.
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What were the symptoms?
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Shortness of breath,
nausea, racing heart.
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All right. So I'm a little
confused here though.
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If you had this condition
when you came here,
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and you were having
the symptoms here,
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what makes you think
it's paranormal?
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Well, it got so much worse
when we were here,
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where I couldn't even
get out of bed some days.
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Okay.
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And once we moved,
I feel great.
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It was something
in this house.
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So, Marcy, now that
you're away from the house,
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and Nick is basically here
on his own,
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I'm sure you're
worried about him.
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Yes.
His health is bad.
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And he's got all sorts
of heart problems
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and stomach problems.
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I worry about him
the whole time he's gone.
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Marcy, talking to Nick,
he's hoping we can get rid
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of whatever's nasty in here
and getting you sick
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so that you guys can move back.
Would you be open to that?
252
00:11:55,796 --> 00:11:57,896
You can't pay me
to move back here.
253
00:11:57,898 --> 00:11:59,698
Really?
No. You could give me a million dollars.
254
00:11:59,700 --> 00:12:01,233
It wouldn't be enough.
255
00:12:01,235 --> 00:12:03,202
Is that causing any kind
of friction between you guys?
256
00:12:03,204 --> 00:12:05,337
- Yes.
- Okay.
257
00:12:05,339 --> 00:12:06,805
How could it not?
258
00:12:06,807 --> 00:12:10,375
He has one dream,
and I have another dream.
259
00:12:10,377 --> 00:12:12,311
And there's no way
260
00:12:12,313 --> 00:12:14,746
that I will ever live
in this house again.
261
00:12:17,184 --> 00:12:19,117
I feel sick.
I feel sick in here.
262
00:12:19,119 --> 00:12:23,355
And I feel, like,
stomach pain very bad.
263
00:12:23,357 --> 00:12:25,858
That could be, like,
a living person though.
264
00:12:25,860 --> 00:12:28,527
Um, like they're
having some kind of
265
00:12:28,529 --> 00:12:34,233
major stomach problems
or intestinal, maybe?
266
00:12:34,235 --> 00:12:38,971
Like, a really bad,
horrible ulcer.
267
00:12:38,973 --> 00:12:40,939
It's really bad.
268
00:12:40,941 --> 00:12:45,310
Like, bad, like, really
need-to-go-to-the-doctor bad.
269
00:12:50,518 --> 00:12:52,317
So, Cherie, I understand
that you and your husband,
270
00:12:52,319 --> 00:12:53,919
Rich, run the place, right?
271
00:12:53,921 --> 00:12:56,088
- We're the innkeepers here.
- Okay.
272
00:12:56,090 --> 00:12:58,857
How do you feel about Nick
wanting this as a haunted hotel?
273
00:12:58,859 --> 00:13:02,661
I apologize to the spirits after
paranormal groups are here.
274
00:13:02,663 --> 00:13:04,496
Why do you feel
the need to apologize?
275
00:13:04,498 --> 00:13:05,831
I apologize to the spirits
276
00:13:05,833 --> 00:13:08,133
because I feel like some
groups stir up.
277
00:13:08,135 --> 00:13:12,604
And then they leave
after they've done their fun.
278
00:13:12,606 --> 00:13:15,140
And then we're left to deal
with the aftermath.
279
00:13:15,142 --> 00:13:17,409
Have you had any experiences
in this place?
280
00:13:17,411 --> 00:13:19,311
Yes.
When I'm downstairs a lot,
281
00:13:19,313 --> 00:13:22,147
I feel the presence
of an old man
282
00:13:22,149 --> 00:13:24,049
in the room.
Okay, explain that to me.
283
00:13:24,051 --> 00:13:26,919
I can just be
cleaning or doing whatever,
284
00:13:26,921 --> 00:13:29,755
and all of a sudden,
I'll feel like somebody's there.
285
00:13:29,757 --> 00:13:31,223
Okay.
Anything else?
286
00:13:31,225 --> 00:13:33,492
I feel like somebody's
looking at me.
287
00:13:33,494 --> 00:13:34,760
It's creepy.
288
00:13:34,762 --> 00:13:36,361
I have a feeling,
one day I'm gonna look up,
289
00:13:36,363 --> 00:13:38,297
and I'll see
something there.
290
00:13:38,299 --> 00:13:41,066
Not sure
how I'm gonna react.
291
00:13:41,068 --> 00:13:42,834
I'm scared to death here.
292
00:13:42,836 --> 00:13:45,170
Okay.
293
00:13:49,076 --> 00:13:52,678
I see a doctor
294
00:13:52,680 --> 00:13:55,147
just standing there.
295
00:13:55,149 --> 00:13:57,482
He's not okay.
296
00:13:59,653 --> 00:14:03,388
He's, like, all up.
297
00:14:03,390 --> 00:14:05,891
You have much idea
if the living perceive him
298
00:14:05,893 --> 00:14:08,126
or how they would
or anything?
299
00:14:08,128 --> 00:14:11,897
I think they
would see a man...
300
00:14:11,899 --> 00:14:15,100
standing in the corners.
301
00:14:15,102 --> 00:14:17,502
I think he's, like,
checking us out.
302
00:14:20,007 --> 00:14:24,810
Like, he seems...
303
00:14:24,812 --> 00:14:27,045
shady, like shifty.
304
00:14:27,047 --> 00:14:30,449
I don't like it in here.
305
00:14:30,451 --> 00:14:32,684
He's not okay.
306
00:14:47,918 --> 00:14:50,252
Nick told me his B&B
used to be a doctor's office.
307
00:14:50,254 --> 00:14:52,721
Now, I can't tell you
how much misinformation
308
00:14:52,723 --> 00:14:54,022
I get from clients.
309
00:14:54,024 --> 00:14:56,058
But in this case,
the lead checked out.
310
00:14:56,060 --> 00:14:58,494
I'm on my way to meet with
a local historian who says
311
00:14:58,496 --> 00:15:00,062
the property was ground zero
312
00:15:00,064 --> 00:15:02,598
for every sick person
for miles around.
313
00:15:07,905 --> 00:15:10,139
So, Greg, thanks for helping me
out with this case.
314
00:15:10,141 --> 00:15:12,408
Turns out, the B&B
was a doctor's office.
315
00:15:12,410 --> 00:15:14,076
Yes.
As a matter of fact,
316
00:15:14,078 --> 00:15:16,545
there were two doctors
that lived in that house
317
00:15:16,547 --> 00:15:19,081
and used it
as their office.
318
00:15:19,083 --> 00:15:21,116
Okay. So what can you tell me
about the first guy?
319
00:15:21,118 --> 00:15:23,952
Dr. Walter Dixon,
born in Canada.
320
00:15:23,954 --> 00:15:26,855
Wound up in Brumley,
Missouri, in 1928
321
00:15:26,857 --> 00:15:28,824
with his wife
and two children.
322
00:15:28,826 --> 00:15:31,794
Okay. So Dr. Dixon, how long
did he last on the property?
323
00:15:31,796 --> 00:15:33,429
Just 2 years.
324
00:15:33,431 --> 00:15:34,897
Okay.
Why only 2 years.
325
00:15:34,899 --> 00:15:38,300
In June of '29,
he became very ill.
326
00:15:38,302 --> 00:15:40,402
- What was goin' on with him.
- He was havin' heart ailments.
327
00:15:40,404 --> 00:15:42,471
Okay.
And then what happens?
328
00:15:42,473 --> 00:15:46,675
November 1930,
he keels over
329
00:15:46,677 --> 00:15:49,678
and passes away
there at the house.
330
00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:51,747
- Okay.
- He was 57 years old,
331
00:15:51,749 --> 00:15:54,817
according to his
death certificate.
332
00:15:59,457 --> 00:16:02,090
The doctor is not
a happy camper.
333
00:16:02,092 --> 00:16:03,926
Can you describe him?
334
00:16:03,928 --> 00:16:07,629
He has a very specific
kind of mustache.
335
00:16:07,631 --> 00:16:09,998
He's wearing a nice suit
'cause he's a doctor.
336
00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:11,867
- So he's educated.
- Uh-huh.
337
00:16:11,869 --> 00:16:14,937
Came from money.
He's very ill.
338
00:16:14,939 --> 00:16:18,373
He's dying.
339
00:16:18,375 --> 00:16:20,876
This guy had way
more going on
340
00:16:20,878 --> 00:16:24,179
than just being a doctor.
341
00:16:24,181 --> 00:16:26,815
I don't know,
something with guns,
342
00:16:26,817 --> 00:16:29,485
guns and fighting.
343
00:16:29,487 --> 00:16:31,386
All right, great.
So after Dixon dies,
344
00:16:31,388 --> 00:16:32,921
what happens
to the property?
345
00:16:32,923 --> 00:16:34,857
The property
went to his son, James.
346
00:16:34,859 --> 00:16:36,358
What can you
tell me about him?
347
00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:40,896
James had a job
with the US Postal Service.
348
00:16:40,898 --> 00:16:44,366
But he became mixed
up with alcoholism
349
00:16:44,368 --> 00:16:46,735
and lost his job
350
00:16:46,737 --> 00:16:49,037
and blamed it
on a certain person.
351
00:16:49,039 --> 00:16:50,272
Okay.
352
00:16:50,274 --> 00:16:54,076
And went and bought
a handgun
353
00:16:54,078 --> 00:16:55,577
and went down
to the post office
354
00:16:55,579 --> 00:16:57,179
looking for this gentleman.
355
00:16:57,181 --> 00:17:00,949
And, of all people
who walked in while
356
00:17:00,951 --> 00:17:04,853
James was frightening
everyone was Dr. Myron Jones.
357
00:17:04,855 --> 00:17:06,889
And he physically took
ahold of James
358
00:17:06,891 --> 00:17:08,957
and disarmed him.
359
00:17:08,959 --> 00:17:12,027
All right. So another doctor
disarms this kid.
360
00:17:12,029 --> 00:17:15,197
Yes. And actually,
that is the second doctor
361
00:17:15,199 --> 00:17:17,232
who owns
your clients' property.
362
00:17:17,234 --> 00:17:18,800
- You're kidding.
- Nope.
363
00:17:18,802 --> 00:17:21,637
- This gentleman right there.
- How long was he here?
364
00:17:21,639 --> 00:17:23,939
He practiced in Brumley
for 12 years.
365
00:17:23,941 --> 00:17:25,507
And he's practicing
out of the house?
366
00:17:25,509 --> 00:17:27,309
- Absolutely.
- All right.
367
00:17:27,311 --> 00:17:29,378
So what kind of illnesses
would he have treated
368
00:17:29,380 --> 00:17:30,812
on my clients' property?
369
00:17:30,814 --> 00:17:33,515
They had rabbit fever,
malaria,
370
00:17:33,517 --> 00:17:37,319
uh, they had typhoid
and Spanish Flu.
371
00:17:37,321 --> 00:17:39,321
All right, Greg.
With the combined 14 years
372
00:17:39,323 --> 00:17:40,822
of practicing
medicine there,
373
00:17:40,824 --> 00:17:42,491
how many patients
would've went through?
374
00:17:42,493 --> 00:17:43,725
Could've been hundreds.
375
00:17:43,727 --> 00:17:45,093
- Hundreds?
- Yes.
376
00:17:45,095 --> 00:17:46,528
Of those hundreds
of patients,
377
00:17:46,530 --> 00:17:49,565
is it chance that somebody
died at the property?
378
00:17:49,567 --> 00:17:52,801
It's very likely that someone
did die at the property, yes.
379
00:17:52,803 --> 00:17:55,737
I'm seeing, like,
380
00:17:55,739 --> 00:17:58,640
all these people coming
and going and coming and going.
381
00:17:58,642 --> 00:18:01,677
It seems like chaos.
It's just, like, chaos!
382
00:18:08,719 --> 00:18:10,419
It's overwhelming.
There's so much,
383
00:18:10,421 --> 00:18:13,689
and there's so much movement
and things happening.
384
00:18:13,691 --> 00:18:18,327
It seems very much
like a pit stop here.
385
00:18:18,329 --> 00:18:20,128
That's, like, the best way
386
00:18:20,130 --> 00:18:22,631
I can describe
all this activity.
387
00:18:25,402 --> 00:18:27,903
It's, like, just, like, crazy.
388
00:18:27,905 --> 00:18:30,405
It's crazy.
389
00:18:32,977 --> 00:18:34,977
This town is
so small, Nick's B&B
390
00:18:34,979 --> 00:18:36,812
is pretty much
the biggest thing going.
391
00:18:36,814 --> 00:18:38,880
So the second I called
the local genealogist,
392
00:18:38,882 --> 00:18:40,616
she knew all about
the property.
393
00:18:40,618 --> 00:18:42,117
She told me the original owner
394
00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,620
has a story I'm definitely
gonna want to hear about.
395
00:18:49,793 --> 00:18:51,126
So, Mary, you mentioned
on the phone
396
00:18:51,128 --> 00:18:53,562
that the original owner
of my clients' property here
397
00:18:53,564 --> 00:18:55,297
had a pretty
interesting story.
398
00:18:55,299 --> 00:18:58,634
Yes, he did. His name was
Reverend Jacob Shaw McComb.
399
00:18:58,636 --> 00:19:00,802
So what did this guy do?
400
00:19:00,804 --> 00:19:02,804
Jacob was actually
a preacher,
401
00:19:02,806 --> 00:19:04,606
an educator, and a farmer.
402
00:19:04,608 --> 00:19:06,241
When's he wind up here?
403
00:19:06,243 --> 00:19:09,878
Well, he wound up
here about 1859.
404
00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:11,747
Was he married at the time?
Was he single?
405
00:19:11,749 --> 00:19:16,485
He married a local girl
named Emily in 1853.
406
00:19:16,487 --> 00:19:18,253
Okay.
So what do we know about her?
407
00:19:18,255 --> 00:19:19,788
We don't know
a whole lot about Emily,
408
00:19:19,790 --> 00:19:22,658
but she came from
a large religious family.
409
00:19:22,660 --> 00:19:24,226
All right. So he's here
with his wife, Emily.
410
00:19:24,228 --> 00:19:26,728
- Any kids?
- They actually had 10 children.
411
00:19:26,730 --> 00:19:27,929
Wow.
412
00:19:27,931 --> 00:19:29,297
Now, you had mentioned
on the phone that
413
00:19:29,299 --> 00:19:31,166
he had an interesting story
I'd want to know about.
414
00:19:31,168 --> 00:19:33,802
Tragically, about 1860,
415
00:19:33,804 --> 00:19:36,505
his 5-week-old son
died on the property.
416
00:19:36,507 --> 00:19:37,773
What was the cause?
417
00:19:37,775 --> 00:19:39,241
We don't know
what the cause was.
418
00:19:39,243 --> 00:19:42,778
There were no records
back then of cause of death.
419
00:19:42,780 --> 00:19:44,713
Okay.
So anything else interesting
420
00:19:44,715 --> 00:19:46,448
about this guy
that may help my investigation.
421
00:19:46,450 --> 00:19:49,651
A few years after
his 10th child was born,
422
00:19:49,653 --> 00:19:51,853
his wife passed away.
423
00:19:51,855 --> 00:19:55,490
She died in 1872.
She was only 40 years old.
424
00:19:55,492 --> 00:19:57,926
Okay. Are we pretty confident
she died on the property?
425
00:19:57,928 --> 00:19:59,428
Yes.
426
00:20:03,367 --> 00:20:05,967
Mm.
427
00:20:05,969 --> 00:20:09,905
I'm seeing the translucent
dead woman again.
428
00:20:09,907 --> 00:20:14,076
To me, it seems
like she lived here.
429
00:20:14,078 --> 00:20:16,078
I'd be surprised if
she didn't die here, too,
430
00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:20,615
because she was sick
for a while, you know?
431
00:20:20,617 --> 00:20:23,552
And she's showing me
her wasting away.
432
00:20:23,554 --> 00:20:25,854
How old would you
say she is?
433
00:20:25,856 --> 00:20:29,191
She says, "46."
434
00:20:29,193 --> 00:20:31,293
Any idea what
period she's from.
435
00:20:31,295 --> 00:20:32,894
Maybe 1890s?
436
00:20:32,896 --> 00:20:37,132
Nineteen -- Between
1890 and 1910, I think.
437
00:20:37,134 --> 00:20:40,769
She seems to be,
pretty religious.
438
00:20:40,771 --> 00:20:44,139
So how did the reverend
take his wife's death?
439
00:20:44,141 --> 00:20:46,108
Pretty well.
He actually remarried
440
00:20:46,110 --> 00:20:49,511
3 months later
to a woman named Julie Ann.
441
00:20:49,513 --> 00:20:53,348
He was 36.
And she was about 21.
442
00:20:53,350 --> 00:20:55,717
- Didn't waste no time.
- No, he did not.
443
00:20:55,719 --> 00:20:57,886
- And they had six more children.
- All right.
444
00:20:57,888 --> 00:20:59,888
So now he's on the property
with his second wife
445
00:20:59,890 --> 00:21:01,490
and 15 kids.
446
00:21:01,492 --> 00:21:03,024
- Yes.
- Things go well for him then?
447
00:21:03,026 --> 00:21:08,697
Well, not especially, because
in 1884, Julie Ann died.
448
00:21:08,699 --> 00:21:10,632
And she was only 35.
449
00:21:10,634 --> 00:21:12,334
Okay.
Were they here when she died?
450
00:21:12,336 --> 00:21:14,836
No. They'd already moved
to Kansas by then.
451
00:21:14,838 --> 00:21:16,772
That's a little odd.
This guy's got two young wives,
452
00:21:16,774 --> 00:21:18,373
and both of them drop dead.
453
00:21:18,375 --> 00:21:20,008
- Yes.
- Okay.
454
00:21:20,010 --> 00:21:22,043
So how'd it end up
for this guy? I mean...
455
00:21:22,045 --> 00:21:24,212
He lived to be 92,
actually.
456
00:21:24,214 --> 00:21:26,014
He died in 1927.
457
00:21:26,016 --> 00:21:27,883
So he lived quite a life.
458
00:21:27,885 --> 00:21:30,385
He did.
459
00:21:32,489 --> 00:21:34,322
She's hysterically
crying over
460
00:21:34,324 --> 00:21:36,525
this other dead guy that's here.
461
00:21:36,527 --> 00:21:38,994
Any sense of who
he was in life?
462
00:21:38,996 --> 00:21:41,396
I think he was always
on the move.
463
00:21:41,398 --> 00:21:42,831
There's something
about libraries with him.
464
00:21:42,833 --> 00:21:46,935
He's very, uh --
loves libraries.
465
00:21:46,937 --> 00:21:48,270
And...
466
00:21:48,272 --> 00:21:50,372
But then I
see him farming.
467
00:21:50,374 --> 00:21:57,212
I want to say he died around,
like, 1925, maybe, 1930.
468
00:21:57,214 --> 00:21:58,814
Yeah.
She just starts crying
469
00:21:58,816 --> 00:22:01,349
like a baby when he's around.
470
00:22:10,494 --> 00:22:11,827
If you need us
to investigate
471
00:22:11,829 --> 00:22:13,728
unexplained activity
in your home,
472
00:22:13,730 --> 00:22:16,131
go to the "Dead Files"
page at travelchannel.com.
473
00:22:16,133 --> 00:22:17,966
Click on "Help Me, Dead Files!"
to submit your story,
474
00:22:17,968 --> 00:22:19,434
and we'll help if we can.
475
00:22:26,650 --> 00:22:28,050
So far, I know
476
00:22:28,052 --> 00:22:29,718
the original owner
of Nick's property
477
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,354
lost his baby
and young wife there.
478
00:22:32,356 --> 00:22:34,356
And chances are good
some patients
479
00:22:34,358 --> 00:22:35,958
may have died
in the upstairs bedrooms
480
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,260
when this house used to be
a doctor's office.
481
00:22:38,262 --> 00:22:42,164
But I need to see
if there's anything else.
482
00:22:42,166 --> 00:22:43,866
Searching through old records,
483
00:22:43,868 --> 00:22:47,603
I find a murder-suicide
that took place in 1971.
484
00:22:47,605 --> 00:22:49,538
Turns out, it happened
right down the street
485
00:22:49,540 --> 00:22:52,875
from Nick and Marcy's property.
486
00:22:52,877 --> 00:22:55,077
So I managed to track down
a relative of the guy
487
00:22:55,079 --> 00:22:58,247
who shot and killed his wife
and then himself.
488
00:22:58,249 --> 00:23:00,015
I know it can't be easy
to talk about.
489
00:23:00,017 --> 00:23:02,217
But she's gonna give me
the inside story
490
00:23:02,219 --> 00:23:04,019
of what led to this tragedy.
491
00:23:10,127 --> 00:23:11,927
Okay.
How were you guys related?
492
00:23:11,929 --> 00:23:15,297
He was
my grandmother's cousin.
493
00:23:15,299 --> 00:23:17,366
His name was
Harold Whittle.
494
00:23:17,368 --> 00:23:20,102
And he was married
to a woman named Ruby.
495
00:23:20,104 --> 00:23:22,771
They were married
for about 21 years.
496
00:23:22,773 --> 00:23:26,375
Here is a picture
of Ruby that I found.
497
00:23:26,377 --> 00:23:28,243
I wasn't able to find
one as an adult.
498
00:23:28,245 --> 00:23:30,312
But I did find one
as a child.
499
00:23:30,314 --> 00:23:32,815
Okay. She was a cute kid.
How old do we think she is here?
500
00:23:32,817 --> 00:23:34,750
I'd say about 8 years old
in that picture.
501
00:23:34,752 --> 00:23:36,618
- About 8? Okay.
- Yes.
502
00:23:36,620 --> 00:23:40,456
Kelly, I know this homicide
happened on July 1, 1971.
503
00:23:40,458 --> 00:23:43,792
- Mm-hmm.
- Take me through the day.
504
00:23:43,794 --> 00:23:45,861
Well, the deputy sheriff
505
00:23:45,863 --> 00:23:47,996
had served Ruby
with divorce papers
506
00:23:47,998 --> 00:23:49,498
earlier that morning.
507
00:23:49,500 --> 00:23:51,233
Okay. So what happens
after that?
508
00:23:51,235 --> 00:23:53,902
Then they had an argument.
509
00:23:53,904 --> 00:23:57,072
And then Ruby had left
the home to go next door
510
00:23:57,074 --> 00:23:59,241
to her brother's house.
Okay.
511
00:23:59,243 --> 00:24:01,743
And, oh, about
10 minutes later,
512
00:24:01,745 --> 00:24:05,314
the son heard a gunshot.
513
00:24:05,316 --> 00:24:07,483
And so he went outside
to investigate,
514
00:24:07,485 --> 00:24:09,151
to see what had happened.
515
00:24:09,153 --> 00:24:13,355
And he'd seen that his mother
had been shot by his father.
516
00:24:13,357 --> 00:24:14,857
Okay.
How old was he?
517
00:24:14,859 --> 00:24:17,860
He was probably about
17 at the time.
518
00:24:17,862 --> 00:24:20,696
- Okay.
- And then the father,
519
00:24:20,698 --> 00:24:23,165
he tried to turn
the gun on himself.
520
00:24:23,167 --> 00:24:26,568
And the gun jammed.
521
00:24:26,570 --> 00:24:29,137
So he went in the house
and got another gun.
522
00:24:29,139 --> 00:24:32,741
I believe it was
a.22-caliber rifle.
523
00:24:32,743 --> 00:24:36,044
And he was successful
in shooting himself.
524
00:24:36,046 --> 00:24:38,013
So he did this all right
in front of the kid?
525
00:24:38,015 --> 00:24:39,748
Yes.
526
00:24:39,750 --> 00:24:42,317
So how far from my clients'
B&B was she murdered?
527
00:24:42,319 --> 00:24:44,052
I'd say about 500 yards.
528
00:24:44,054 --> 00:24:46,054
- Close.
- Very, very close.
529
00:24:46,056 --> 00:24:47,956
Kelly, I appreciate
you talking about this with me.
530
00:24:47,958 --> 00:24:49,758
- I know it can't be easy.
- No, it's not.
531
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,462
It's actually a skeleton
in my family closet.
532
00:24:57,268 --> 00:25:01,904
So, I see a young girl
running,
533
00:25:01,906 --> 00:25:05,073
running, running, running.
534
00:25:05,075 --> 00:25:06,341
It is summertime.
535
00:25:06,343 --> 00:25:08,544
And it's recent because
she's wearing shorts
536
00:25:08,546 --> 00:25:10,913
and a tank top, flip-flops.
537
00:25:10,915 --> 00:25:14,783
Uh, like, I would put it,
like, '80s or '90s.
538
00:25:14,785 --> 00:25:18,787
There's only one
individual chasing her.
539
00:25:18,789 --> 00:25:23,759
It's a male, and it seems to be
a family member.
540
00:25:23,761 --> 00:25:27,563
I hear, "Crime scene,
crime scene."
541
00:25:27,565 --> 00:25:30,666
And I heard a whisper
saying, "Cemetery."
542
00:25:37,775 --> 00:25:40,809
During my walk,
I saw multiple dead people.
543
00:25:40,811 --> 00:25:44,613
But two stood out --
first, the doctor.
544
00:25:46,283 --> 00:25:49,184
His hair was very nice.
545
00:25:49,186 --> 00:25:53,455
He did have
a pretty dark mustache.
546
00:25:53,457 --> 00:25:56,525
He was dressed very well.
547
00:25:56,527 --> 00:25:58,627
Next, I described
the translucent man
548
00:25:58,629 --> 00:26:01,797
coming out of the walls
to attack the living.
549
00:26:01,799 --> 00:26:07,703
He had long, brown hair
that was kind of a mess.
550
00:26:07,705 --> 00:26:11,873
And he's, like, a poker,
so he likes to poke people.
551
00:26:11,875 --> 00:26:15,344
He was poking
the person on the bed.
552
00:26:19,550 --> 00:26:22,150
Amy, is this
what you saw?
553
00:26:22,152 --> 00:26:23,752
Yes.
554
00:26:43,724 --> 00:26:46,592
Now that Amy and I have
completed our investigations,
555
00:26:46,594 --> 00:26:48,694
we're ready to reveal
our findings to each other
556
00:26:48,696 --> 00:26:51,764
and our clients
for the first time.
557
00:26:51,766 --> 00:26:53,866
So, Amy, this is
Nick and Marcy.
558
00:26:53,868 --> 00:26:56,935
They're married.
And they both own this B&B.
559
00:26:56,937 --> 00:26:59,772
But they're hoping
for different outcomes tonight.
560
00:26:59,774 --> 00:27:02,408
Nick loves this place
and is hoping you can show him
561
00:27:02,410 --> 00:27:04,910
a way to keep it running safely.
562
00:27:04,912 --> 00:27:06,745
Marcy can't take
the activity anymore
563
00:27:06,747 --> 00:27:10,215
and asked Nick to move them
out 9 months ago.
564
00:27:10,217 --> 00:27:13,419
She wouldn't come back here if
you gave her a million dollars.
565
00:27:13,421 --> 00:27:15,120
She's hoping you were
gonna tell Nick
566
00:27:15,122 --> 00:27:17,589
to sell it and move on.
567
00:27:17,591 --> 00:27:18,991
With that being said,
I'm gonna ask Amy
568
00:27:18,993 --> 00:27:21,693
to tell us about her walk.
569
00:27:21,695 --> 00:27:24,329
When I first got here,
570
00:27:24,331 --> 00:27:27,065
I was getting
a lot of information.
571
00:27:27,067 --> 00:27:29,535
There was a lot of residual
energy everywhere.
572
00:27:29,537 --> 00:27:31,703
And it was very overwhelming.
573
00:27:31,705 --> 00:27:34,306
So then I came in.
574
00:27:34,308 --> 00:27:37,810
And I went into the bathroom.
575
00:27:37,812 --> 00:27:42,514
And I started to get
physically ill.
576
00:27:42,516 --> 00:27:44,917
And I felt like
a living person
577
00:27:44,919 --> 00:27:49,221
was having issues
with intestines.
578
00:27:49,223 --> 00:27:52,157
And the pain
was extremely sharp.
579
00:27:52,159 --> 00:27:53,792
I was thinking, like, ulcer,
580
00:27:53,794 --> 00:27:56,395
but, like, a really,
really, really bad one.
581
00:27:56,397 --> 00:27:59,731
And it really does need to be
taken care of by a doctor.
582
00:27:59,733 --> 00:28:03,235
- For you to say this is...
- My heart dropped in my stomach.
583
00:28:03,237 --> 00:28:04,603
Wow.
584
00:28:04,605 --> 00:28:10,709
I'd been fighting
a stomach-pancreas issue...
585
00:28:10,711 --> 00:28:13,045
- Oh, no.
- ...for almost a year.
586
00:28:13,047 --> 00:28:16,515
In fact, I'm supposed
to have a surgery this week.
587
00:28:16,517 --> 00:28:17,816
What?
588
00:28:17,818 --> 00:28:19,284
That's funny 'cause you
never mentioned it to me.
589
00:28:19,286 --> 00:28:23,121
I just never thought that was
pertinent to even talk about.
590
00:28:23,123 --> 00:28:25,924
Marcy, tell her
about your health issues.
591
00:28:25,926 --> 00:28:29,428
I have cardiomyopathy,
which is the heart disease.
592
00:28:29,430 --> 00:28:30,762
Okay.
593
00:28:30,764 --> 00:28:34,800
And I have had stomach problems
since we lived here.
594
00:28:34,802 --> 00:28:38,904
And the doctors still have
no understanding of why.
595
00:28:38,906 --> 00:28:40,339
The dead will do
that to you.
596
00:28:40,341 --> 00:28:41,974
I mean, if you have
a heart condition
597
00:28:41,976 --> 00:28:45,210
or any kind of anything,
they'll exacerbate it.
598
00:28:48,782 --> 00:28:52,751
So, when I was in
the downstairs bedroom,
599
00:28:52,753 --> 00:28:55,287
there was this dead guy
standing in the corner.
600
00:28:55,289 --> 00:28:57,623
I got that
he was a doctor.
601
00:28:57,625 --> 00:28:59,625
He was obviously
well-educated.
602
00:28:59,627 --> 00:29:01,126
He came from money.
603
00:29:01,128 --> 00:29:05,163
And I also got that there
was something about guns
604
00:29:05,165 --> 00:29:07,366
and fighting with him.
605
00:29:07,368 --> 00:29:12,371
And I think that the living
could see this guy.
606
00:29:12,373 --> 00:29:16,408
He's just kind
of a stalker.
607
00:29:16,410 --> 00:29:19,311
Now, that room you were talking
about where the doctor is,
608
00:29:19,313 --> 00:29:21,713
that is occupied
by the new innkeepers here.
609
00:29:21,715 --> 00:29:24,349
Cherie always feels there's
a presence in the house.
610
00:29:24,351 --> 00:29:28,387
It's as if someone
is following or watching her.
611
00:29:28,389 --> 00:29:30,155
Did you ever feel
that way, Marcy?
612
00:29:30,157 --> 00:29:31,590
- Uh-huh.
- You did?
613
00:29:31,592 --> 00:29:36,061
Always. I felt like there was
somebody walking behind me.
614
00:29:36,063 --> 00:29:38,363
Amy, this place used to be
a doctor's office, actually.
615
00:29:38,365 --> 00:29:40,098
Wow.
616
00:29:40,100 --> 00:29:41,733
In fact, there was two
different doctors
617
00:29:41,735 --> 00:29:44,336
that lived and treated
patients right here.
618
00:29:44,338 --> 00:29:46,672
First guy was named
Dr. Walter Dixon.
619
00:29:46,674 --> 00:29:48,974
Now, he bought
this place in 1928.
620
00:29:48,976 --> 00:29:51,376
Within a year, he developed
a heart condition.
621
00:29:51,378 --> 00:29:52,744
He was in and out
of the hospital,
622
00:29:52,746 --> 00:29:55,314
ended up dying on
November 11, 1930.
623
00:29:55,316 --> 00:29:56,682
Oh, wow.
What?
624
00:29:56,684 --> 00:29:58,183
Of a heart attack
right on the property.
625
00:29:58,185 --> 00:29:59,985
And I got his
death certificate.
626
00:29:59,987 --> 00:30:02,154
He was 57, though,
when he died.
627
00:30:06,260 --> 00:30:08,894
That is really bad
for you then.
628
00:30:10,931 --> 00:30:13,999
Nick is full of
heart disease, too.
629
00:30:14,001 --> 00:30:17,469
I've had three heart attacks,
five stents.
630
00:30:17,471 --> 00:30:18,704
Oh, boy.
631
00:30:18,706 --> 00:30:22,207
If you're subjected
to dead energy
632
00:30:22,209 --> 00:30:23,642
all the time,
633
00:30:23,644 --> 00:30:26,178
it can physically
affect heart issues,
634
00:30:26,180 --> 00:30:29,114
breathing issues, sleep issues,
and things like that.
635
00:30:29,116 --> 00:30:31,216
So, preexisting
conditions, it just --
636
00:30:31,218 --> 00:30:34,052
Can be made worse.
637
00:30:34,054 --> 00:30:37,756
You mentioned something
about guns, right?
638
00:30:37,758 --> 00:30:39,992
After Dixon's death,
the property went to his son,
639
00:30:39,994 --> 00:30:41,893
James, who happened
to be an alcoholic.
640
00:30:41,895 --> 00:30:46,031
Now, in 1934, James worked
for the post office.
641
00:30:46,033 --> 00:30:48,567
But he got fired.
So he got drunk,
642
00:30:48,569 --> 00:30:50,836
went back to the post office
with the gun,
643
00:30:50,838 --> 00:30:53,905
then tried to take out the guy
that he thinks got him fired.
644
00:30:53,907 --> 00:30:55,574
Now, as he's
in the post office
645
00:30:55,576 --> 00:30:56,808
looking for revenge,
646
00:30:56,810 --> 00:31:01,747
he gets punched by a doctor
named Myron Jones.
647
00:31:01,749 --> 00:31:04,216
And he takes
the gun off of him.
648
00:31:04,218 --> 00:31:05,851
This is where
it gets strange.
649
00:31:05,853 --> 00:31:08,887
The next year,
Jones bought this place
650
00:31:08,889 --> 00:31:11,123
and was the second doctor...
651
00:31:11,125 --> 00:31:12,724
Uh-huh.
652
00:31:12,726 --> 00:31:15,027
...that started treating
patients here.
653
00:31:15,029 --> 00:31:18,330
Now, like Dixon, he treated
people from miles away,
654
00:31:18,332 --> 00:31:23,035
anything from malaria,
typhoid, the flu, dysentery.
655
00:31:23,037 --> 00:31:24,803
Now, I don't have
a photo of Dixon,
656
00:31:24,805 --> 00:31:28,674
but I managed to track
down one of Myron Jones.
657
00:31:28,676 --> 00:31:31,576
So, this is him.
658
00:31:34,214 --> 00:31:36,148
So do you think
this is who you saw?
659
00:31:36,150 --> 00:31:37,849
I did a sketch.
660
00:31:37,851 --> 00:31:40,052
Okay.
661
00:31:44,224 --> 00:31:45,657
I don't know, Amy.
662
00:31:45,659 --> 00:31:47,793
This is a pretty
similar-looking guy.
663
00:31:52,099 --> 00:31:55,167
You take that
mustache away...
664
00:31:55,169 --> 00:31:57,102
I'd say that,
without the mustache,
665
00:31:57,104 --> 00:32:01,873
this drawing looks like
Dr. Jones.
666
00:32:01,875 --> 00:32:04,176
- I definitely see it.
- Mm-hmm.
667
00:32:04,178 --> 00:32:06,044
It could be him.
668
00:32:06,046 --> 00:32:07,479
Marcy, how do you feel
669
00:32:07,481 --> 00:32:09,314
knowing he might be
in your house?
670
00:32:09,316 --> 00:32:11,049
Makes me sad for Nick
671
00:32:11,051 --> 00:32:15,287
because this is such
a huge part of who he is.
672
00:32:18,759 --> 00:32:22,828
So there are two dead people
living in the walls
673
00:32:22,830 --> 00:32:24,329
that I'm concerned about.
674
00:32:24,331 --> 00:32:26,431
The way that I was
seeing them was,
675
00:32:26,433 --> 00:32:30,535
like, translucent with,
like, a watery shimmer.
676
00:32:30,537 --> 00:32:33,672
So, first, I got a female.
677
00:32:33,674 --> 00:32:38,009
And she feels like
the living that are here
678
00:32:38,011 --> 00:32:39,711
are trying
to mess with her.
679
00:32:39,713 --> 00:32:43,782
So what she's done is taken
to the walls and spying.
680
00:32:43,784 --> 00:32:45,450
Wow.
681
00:32:45,452 --> 00:32:47,619
I think that the living
could experience this
682
00:32:47,621 --> 00:32:48,954
in a couple of ways.
683
00:32:48,956 --> 00:32:53,058
The first one
is really feeling
684
00:32:53,060 --> 00:32:57,829
her intense anxiety
and stress.
685
00:32:57,831 --> 00:33:02,367
And the living might
hear this crying.
686
00:33:02,369 --> 00:33:04,202
One night, about 1:00
in the morning,
687
00:33:04,204 --> 00:33:08,073
I heard a woman
absolutely sobbing.
688
00:33:08,075 --> 00:33:10,709
You guys had a reaction when
she said, "Intense anxiety."
689
00:33:10,711 --> 00:33:14,746
Yeah. We have a lot
of visitors here.
690
00:33:14,748 --> 00:33:16,581
And they may be in there
691
00:33:16,583 --> 00:33:20,752
for 30 seconds
and feel anxious.
692
00:33:20,754 --> 00:33:22,554
Lot of 'em,
they can't stay there.
693
00:33:22,556 --> 00:33:25,490
They got to get out.
694
00:33:25,492 --> 00:33:26,858
So did you get any idea
695
00:33:26,860 --> 00:33:28,994
of who she might've been
when she was alive?
696
00:33:28,996 --> 00:33:34,499
The things that I got were
she's super religious,
697
00:33:34,501 --> 00:33:38,603
extremely judgmental
when she was alive.
698
00:33:38,605 --> 00:33:41,807
She's also, to me,
still that way in death.
699
00:33:41,809 --> 00:33:46,178
I got around 1890
to 1910 with her.
700
00:33:46,180 --> 00:33:48,313
I do think
that she died here.
701
00:33:48,315 --> 00:33:51,416
She indicated
that she got an illness
702
00:33:51,418 --> 00:33:53,285
that she wasted from.
703
00:33:53,287 --> 00:33:56,721
Felt like she died
when she was in her 40s.
704
00:33:56,723 --> 00:33:59,925
As for all the crying,
it's over a male.
705
00:33:59,927 --> 00:34:03,061
He was important to her
when she was alive.
706
00:34:03,063 --> 00:34:05,463
And he's important
now in her death.
707
00:34:05,465 --> 00:34:07,065
He was very
well-educated.
708
00:34:07,067 --> 00:34:11,036
He was kind of fixated
with libraries.
709
00:34:11,038 --> 00:34:15,607
And I did see him then,
later, farming.
710
00:34:15,609 --> 00:34:20,478
And I got that he died
between 1925 and 1930.
711
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,347
That's pretty wild,
'cause I have a feeling
712
00:34:22,349 --> 00:34:23,949
I know exactly who
she's talking about.
713
00:34:23,951 --> 00:34:25,717
So now, back in 1859,
714
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,152
a woman named Emily McComb
715
00:34:27,154 --> 00:34:29,287
moved onto the property
with her husband,
716
00:34:29,289 --> 00:34:31,690
Reverend Jacob McComb.
You said the woman
717
00:34:31,692 --> 00:34:33,892
you saw was religious
and judgmental.
718
00:34:33,894 --> 00:34:36,494
Well, Emily came from
a large religious family,
719
00:34:36,496 --> 00:34:39,431
which may be how she wound up
marrying a preacher.
720
00:34:39,433 --> 00:34:41,499
As far as the age
or the time period you got
721
00:34:41,501 --> 00:34:42,968
was pretty damn close.
722
00:34:42,970 --> 00:34:45,503
Emily died right here
on the property in 1872.
723
00:34:45,505 --> 00:34:47,606
- She was only 40 years old.
- Whoa.
724
00:34:47,608 --> 00:34:49,274
Now, you said
the man was educated
725
00:34:49,276 --> 00:34:51,243
and that you also
saw him farming.
726
00:34:51,245 --> 00:34:54,079
Jacob McComb was a reverend.
He was a teacher and a farmer.
727
00:34:54,081 --> 00:34:55,513
- Wow.
- He did all three.
728
00:34:55,515 --> 00:34:56,882
Wow.
729
00:34:56,884 --> 00:34:58,950
Now, you said that
the woman gets really emotional
730
00:34:58,952 --> 00:35:00,352
about the guy, right?
731
00:35:00,354 --> 00:35:03,088
Well, get this.
Her husband, Jacob,
732
00:35:03,090 --> 00:35:05,490
moved on pretty quick
after she died.
733
00:35:05,492 --> 00:35:08,894
Within 3 months,
he buried her and remarried.
734
00:35:08,896 --> 00:35:11,763
Oh, my.
735
00:35:11,765 --> 00:35:14,799
Now, you said the man died
between 1925 and 1930?
736
00:35:14,801 --> 00:35:16,301
Yes.
737
00:35:16,303 --> 00:35:18,270
Well, Reverend McComb died
in 1927.
738
00:35:18,272 --> 00:35:19,671
Wow.
739
00:35:19,673 --> 00:35:21,940
Now, do you think the woman
could've been Emily McComb?
740
00:35:21,942 --> 00:35:23,875
Could be.
741
00:35:23,877 --> 00:35:25,710
Oh, I feel bad
for her now.
742
00:35:29,917 --> 00:35:32,851
The other translucent
entity upstairs
743
00:35:32,853 --> 00:35:35,387
turned out to be a male.
744
00:35:35,389 --> 00:35:36,888
He was upset and angry
745
00:35:36,890 --> 00:35:38,924
because he doesn't want
to be here anymore.
746
00:35:38,926 --> 00:35:40,258
Someone is keeping
him here.
747
00:35:40,260 --> 00:35:42,761
And he's been here
a long time.
748
00:35:42,763 --> 00:35:47,198
He was indicating to me,
like, him being on cameras.
749
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,068
So I did get the impression
that people were coming here
750
00:35:50,070 --> 00:35:52,070
and doing stuff
with recording devices
751
00:35:52,072 --> 00:35:55,307
and video cameras.
752
00:35:55,309 --> 00:35:57,309
I think, Nick, now's a good time
for you to tell Amy
753
00:35:57,311 --> 00:35:59,744
how you're actually
promoting this place.
754
00:35:59,746 --> 00:36:01,279
We promote this as
755
00:36:01,281 --> 00:36:03,748
the Haunted Castle House
Bed-and-Breakfast.
756
00:36:03,750 --> 00:36:07,719
We bought the Castle House
to live in it as our residence.
757
00:36:07,721 --> 00:36:11,122
But the paranormal activity
was so intense
758
00:36:11,124 --> 00:36:13,191
that we wound up
converting it over
759
00:36:13,193 --> 00:36:15,961
into a haunted
bed-and-breakfast.
760
00:36:15,963 --> 00:36:17,929
We've lost 25 percent
of the people
761
00:36:17,931 --> 00:36:20,131
that come and try and stay here.
762
00:36:20,133 --> 00:36:23,802
They can't make it
through the night.
763
00:36:23,804 --> 00:36:25,470
You know, I'm surprised
you're not pissed off about this
764
00:36:25,472 --> 00:36:28,073
'cause you've told
other people off.
765
00:36:28,075 --> 00:36:32,010
Well, to me, it's always
situation by situation.
766
00:36:32,012 --> 00:36:36,014
And in the majority
of those cases,
767
00:36:36,016 --> 00:36:41,419
it's because they were
exploiting horrific situations.
768
00:36:41,421 --> 00:36:43,421
And that, to me,
is unacceptable.
769
00:36:43,423 --> 00:36:44,856
We have the same issues.
770
00:36:44,858 --> 00:36:46,324
Yeah.
We don't allow any of that.
771
00:36:46,326 --> 00:36:48,393
- Things like that.
- We don't do any of that.
772
00:36:48,395 --> 00:36:52,464
We're very,
very respectful.
773
00:36:52,466 --> 00:36:53,698
So, speaking of this guy,
774
00:36:53,700 --> 00:36:55,266
can he do anything
to the living?
775
00:36:55,268 --> 00:36:57,936
He can get a little
physical with the living.
776
00:36:57,938 --> 00:37:00,939
One of the things,
he can, like, bang on doors.
777
00:37:00,941 --> 00:37:02,407
He wants
to get attention.
778
00:37:02,409 --> 00:37:07,645
We hear a loud banging
noise on the second floor.
779
00:37:07,647 --> 00:37:10,915
It's very loud.
It's almost like somebody,
780
00:37:10,917 --> 00:37:14,986
you know, has dropped
a weight up in the attic.
781
00:37:14,988 --> 00:37:17,255
Now, she said,
"He can get physical."
782
00:37:17,257 --> 00:37:18,857
- Yeah.
- Tell her what happened to you.
783
00:37:18,859 --> 00:37:21,593
I was up cleaning
and doing my thing.
784
00:37:21,595 --> 00:37:26,164
And as I started down
the stairs, all of a sudden,
785
00:37:26,166 --> 00:37:31,936
something hit me right
in my shoulder blades.
786
00:37:31,938 --> 00:37:35,540
And I caught myself
before I went
787
00:37:35,542 --> 00:37:37,709
all the way
down the stairs.
788
00:37:37,711 --> 00:37:39,544
Could that be the guy?
789
00:37:39,546 --> 00:37:40,645
Oh, yeah.
790
00:37:43,450 --> 00:37:46,184
And I also saw
this dead guy
791
00:37:46,186 --> 00:37:49,054
coming out of the wall
792
00:37:49,056 --> 00:37:53,858
and poking people
in the bed in the face.
793
00:37:53,860 --> 00:37:56,027
I had a sketch done
of what I saw.
794
00:38:04,337 --> 00:38:06,204
What the?
795
00:38:10,043 --> 00:38:12,243
Wow.
796
00:38:12,245 --> 00:38:14,846
It's creepy.
797
00:38:14,848 --> 00:38:17,482
We get that from
a lot of our visitors.
798
00:38:17,484 --> 00:38:20,652
Someone thumping them
on the gourd,
799
00:38:20,654 --> 00:38:22,687
pulling, playing
with their hair,
800
00:38:22,689 --> 00:38:25,423
pulling their covers down.
801
00:38:25,425 --> 00:38:27,959
I'm not coming back
here after tonight.
802
00:38:45,270 --> 00:38:46,936
Now, Marcy,
you seem pretty dead set
803
00:38:46,938 --> 00:38:48,405
on never
moving back in here.
804
00:38:48,407 --> 00:38:51,608
And that decision's totally
up to you, obviously.
805
00:38:51,610 --> 00:38:54,944
But right now, we're gonna see
if that's even a possibility,
806
00:38:54,946 --> 00:38:56,913
and what that's gonna take.
807
00:38:56,915 --> 00:38:59,416
For that, I'm gonna
turn it over to Amy.
808
00:39:02,020 --> 00:39:05,622
Well, you have options
if you wanted to stay.
809
00:39:05,624 --> 00:39:07,891
But honestly,
810
00:39:07,893 --> 00:39:10,994
you wouldn't be able
to occupy this location
811
00:39:10,996 --> 00:39:13,163
for at least 6 months
812
00:39:13,165 --> 00:39:18,168
because the residual here
is literally out of control.
813
00:39:18,170 --> 00:39:20,003
Now, is that from
all the sick patients
814
00:39:20,005 --> 00:39:21,438
that came through here?
815
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:22,872
Yes.
816
00:39:22,874 --> 00:39:26,276
And it's affecting
your health directly.
817
00:39:26,278 --> 00:39:29,913
So what would have
to happen is, like,
818
00:39:29,915 --> 00:39:31,481
doing a cleansing
819
00:39:31,483 --> 00:39:33,116
that you would have
to do once a week.
820
00:39:33,118 --> 00:39:34,451
- Mm-hmm.
- Mm.
821
00:39:34,453 --> 00:39:36,886
So putting a mixture of
saltwater in a spray bottle.
822
00:39:36,888 --> 00:39:40,457
Every week, having to spray
down all the walls,
823
00:39:40,459 --> 00:39:42,525
the doors, the floors.
824
00:39:42,527 --> 00:39:45,628
Then, following that,
you would have to burn sage.
825
00:39:45,630 --> 00:39:47,797
Burning sage inside,
top to bottom.
826
00:39:47,799 --> 00:39:50,333
Then going outside,
burning sage outside.
827
00:39:50,335 --> 00:39:54,170
All right. So, once they do
this cleansing stuff,
828
00:39:54,172 --> 00:39:56,039
that'll take care
of the health issues?
829
00:39:56,041 --> 00:39:57,474
Yes.
830
00:39:57,476 --> 00:40:01,811
As far as the dead guy
831
00:40:01,813 --> 00:40:03,947
and the woman.
832
00:40:03,949 --> 00:40:06,716
I'm gonna take 'em home
and then move 'em on.
833
00:40:09,254 --> 00:40:11,788
So you're gonna take the people
in the walls home with you?
834
00:40:11,790 --> 00:40:12,989
Yeah.
835
00:40:12,991 --> 00:40:14,624
Wow.
836
00:40:14,626 --> 00:40:17,594
So that means this
won't happen no more?
837
00:40:17,596 --> 00:40:19,162
- No more banging?
- Right.
838
00:40:19,164 --> 00:40:22,131
No more footsteps
and the crying of the woman.
839
00:40:22,133 --> 00:40:24,000
- Oh, yeah.
- That's all gonna stop tonight?
840
00:40:24,002 --> 00:40:25,969
Yeah.
841
00:40:25,971 --> 00:40:28,404
So what do we do
with this doctor?
842
00:40:28,406 --> 00:40:30,673
Just leave him alone.
He's fine.
843
00:40:33,178 --> 00:40:35,645
Well, now that all
the bad kind of stuff
844
00:40:35,647 --> 00:40:37,180
is gonna be leaving
with her tonight,
845
00:40:37,182 --> 00:40:39,015
would you consider
just going right back
846
00:40:39,017 --> 00:40:41,751
to a regular B&B
and not...
847
00:40:41,753 --> 00:40:43,620
doing the ghost thing?
848
00:40:43,622 --> 00:40:45,088
Yeah, probably so.
849
00:40:45,090 --> 00:40:48,391
It's how we started out as,
as historical, not haunted.
850
00:40:48,393 --> 00:40:49,959
So, yeah.
851
00:40:49,961 --> 00:40:52,295
I wouldn't have
a problem with that.
852
00:40:52,297 --> 00:40:53,763
I see that look
on your face.
853
00:40:53,765 --> 00:40:56,900
Anything that would make you
reconsider moving in here?
854
00:40:56,902 --> 00:40:58,701
Mnh-mnh.
Nothing.
855
00:40:58,703 --> 00:41:01,070
Hmm. No.
You can suggest all you want,
856
00:41:01,072 --> 00:41:05,275
but there are
no alternatives for me.
857
00:41:05,277 --> 00:41:07,143
I understand her concern.
858
00:41:07,145 --> 00:41:10,246
And, uh...
I mean, I respect that.
859
00:41:10,248 --> 00:41:12,348
I don't want her
to come back here,
860
00:41:12,350 --> 00:41:15,552
where she is not going
to be comfortable.
861
00:41:15,554 --> 00:41:20,790
I want Nick to, you know,
do what he wants to do.
862
00:41:20,792 --> 00:41:23,226
But I can't be
part of it.
863
00:41:23,228 --> 00:41:24,894
You gonna try to
talk her out of it?
864
00:41:26,565 --> 00:41:28,097
No.
865
00:41:28,099 --> 00:41:29,933
Sorry.
866
00:41:29,935 --> 00:41:32,635
Nick has a lot
of work to do
867
00:41:32,637 --> 00:41:34,304
if he wants to keep
his employees
868
00:41:34,306 --> 00:41:36,506
and guests
out of harm's way.
869
00:41:36,508 --> 00:41:38,708
But if he does regular
cleansings to clear
870
00:41:38,710 --> 00:41:40,176
all of the residual energy
871
00:41:40,178 --> 00:41:42,679
and goes back to being
a regular B&B,
872
00:41:42,681 --> 00:41:44,847
he should be able to run
his place safely
873
00:41:44,849 --> 00:41:47,050
for many years to come.
874
00:41:47,100 --> 00:41:51,650
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