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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:10,211 --> 00:00:13,412 I don't feel okay here. 2 00:00:13,414 --> 00:00:15,948 I feel like I wanna run. 3 00:00:15,950 --> 00:00:18,083 We've had customers walk in the door 4 00:00:18,085 --> 00:00:19,985 and stop dead in their tracks. 5 00:00:21,522 --> 00:00:24,456 Those things are here. 6 00:00:24,458 --> 00:00:27,693 I saw several dead people standing amongst the diners. 7 00:00:29,663 --> 00:00:31,029 To me, they feel like a threat. 8 00:00:32,500 --> 00:00:37,269 I am extremely creeped out. 9 00:00:37,271 --> 00:00:39,405 I just hear death. 10 00:00:39,407 --> 00:00:41,106 My name is Amy Allan. 11 00:00:41,108 --> 00:00:42,741 God. 12 00:00:42,743 --> 00:00:44,743 It's like, "I'm going to get you." 13 00:00:44,745 --> 00:00:45,844 I see dead people. 14 00:00:45,846 --> 00:00:47,112 Her face was all demonic. 15 00:00:47,114 --> 00:00:48,881 I speak to dead people. 16 00:00:48,883 --> 00:00:51,650 He's like, "You think you can stop me? Because you can't." 17 00:00:51,652 --> 00:00:53,051 And they speak to me. 18 00:00:53,053 --> 00:00:54,586 What is he trying to do? Kill them. 19 00:00:54,588 --> 00:00:57,723 But there's only one way to know if my findings are real. 20 00:00:57,725 --> 00:00:59,725 Something happened. Bam, bam, bam! 21 00:00:59,727 --> 00:01:01,293 I rely on my partner. 22 00:01:01,295 --> 00:01:02,861 I'm Steve Di Schiavi. 23 00:01:02,863 --> 00:01:04,596 I'm a retired New York City homicide detective. 24 00:01:04,598 --> 00:01:06,098 Am I seeing what I think I'm seeing? 25 00:01:06,100 --> 00:01:09,301 And I know every person, every house has secrets. 26 00:01:09,303 --> 00:01:10,469 They're everywhere. 27 00:01:10,471 --> 00:01:11,870 It's my job to reveal them. 28 00:01:11,872 --> 00:01:13,939 This guy's got the markings of a serial killer. 29 00:01:13,941 --> 00:01:16,775 But Steve and I never speak... 30 00:01:16,777 --> 00:01:18,777 We never communicate during an investigation. 31 00:01:18,779 --> 00:01:20,012 ...until the very end... 32 00:01:20,014 --> 00:01:21,680 Is this dead guy doing that to her? 33 00:01:21,682 --> 00:01:23,549 ...when we uncover if it's safe for you to stay... 34 00:01:23,551 --> 00:01:25,651 That's it. 35 00:01:25,653 --> 00:01:26,919 ...or time to get out. 36 00:01:26,921 --> 00:01:30,088 Somebody's gonna die over there soon, yeah. 37 00:01:46,307 --> 00:01:49,575 I'm in Sedona, Arizona, about 2 hours from Phoenix. 38 00:01:49,577 --> 00:01:51,243 We got called in by a guy named Joe. 39 00:01:51,245 --> 00:01:53,512 Now, he moved out here from the East Coast 40 00:01:53,514 --> 00:01:56,315 and opened up a restaurant to live the good life. 41 00:01:56,317 --> 00:01:58,617 Problem is, the activity's so bad, 42 00:01:58,619 --> 00:02:01,186 his employees and customers are scared to death. 43 00:02:01,188 --> 00:02:02,821 And he says, if we can't fix it, 44 00:02:02,823 --> 00:02:04,990 he may lose his entire life savings. 45 00:02:11,131 --> 00:02:14,566 Before Amy arrives, I clear the area of anything 46 00:02:14,568 --> 00:02:17,269 that might influence her findings. 47 00:02:17,271 --> 00:02:20,105 This is a large space with a lot of historical items 48 00:02:20,107 --> 00:02:23,876 and signs that need to be covered. 49 00:02:23,878 --> 00:02:25,944 When I'm finished, the location'll be ready 50 00:02:25,946 --> 00:02:28,947 for tonight's walk. 51 00:02:42,396 --> 00:02:45,430 Agh, I really don't like it here. 52 00:02:45,432 --> 00:02:48,166 I feel really, really, very sick. 53 00:02:50,771 --> 00:02:52,337 A lot of anxiety. 54 00:02:52,339 --> 00:02:55,340 And stress. 55 00:02:55,342 --> 00:02:59,311 I think that, if the living spent enough time here, 56 00:02:59,313 --> 00:03:02,047 you know, they would develop things like ulcers 57 00:03:02,049 --> 00:03:03,582 or stomach problems. 58 00:03:06,654 --> 00:03:11,423 I'm getting feelings of being abandoned, unwanted. 59 00:03:11,425 --> 00:03:13,792 I don't feel very good here. 60 00:03:21,468 --> 00:03:23,201 So, Joe, when we spoke on the phone, 61 00:03:23,203 --> 00:03:24,903 you sounded really concerned about things. 62 00:03:24,905 --> 00:03:26,705 What's goin' on? 63 00:03:26,707 --> 00:03:27,940 Well, there's been a lot of reports, 64 00:03:27,942 --> 00:03:30,409 by both my employees and customers, 65 00:03:30,411 --> 00:03:32,811 of things happening here in the restaurant. 66 00:03:32,813 --> 00:03:34,246 Okay, so that's costin' you business. 67 00:03:34,248 --> 00:03:36,982 It is, indeed, but the most important 68 00:03:36,984 --> 00:03:39,618 concern, in my mind, is the safety of my guests, 69 00:03:39,620 --> 00:03:41,987 my customers, and my employees. 70 00:03:41,989 --> 00:03:43,855 Okay. How long have you owned the building? 71 00:03:43,857 --> 00:03:45,090 13 years. 72 00:03:45,092 --> 00:03:47,726 Okay. When did you start havin' experiences? 73 00:03:47,728 --> 00:03:50,295 I haven't had any experiences. 74 00:03:50,297 --> 00:03:51,863 I haven't had any experiences here, 75 00:03:51,865 --> 00:03:53,565 or anywhere else in my life. 76 00:03:53,567 --> 00:03:54,967 Okay. Not to be rude, 77 00:03:54,969 --> 00:03:56,234 but what the hell am I doin' here, then? 78 00:03:56,236 --> 00:03:57,603 I believe it's really happening. 79 00:03:57,605 --> 00:03:58,770 I certainly did not believe it 80 00:03:58,772 --> 00:04:00,839 in the beginning, as a skeptic, 81 00:04:00,841 --> 00:04:03,442 but we've had customers walk in the door 82 00:04:03,444 --> 00:04:05,210 and stop dead in their tracks. 83 00:04:05,212 --> 00:04:07,813 These are real people - Right. 84 00:04:07,815 --> 00:04:10,582 that are having genuine experiences. 85 00:04:10,584 --> 00:04:12,818 All right. Joe, I know you've had no experiences, 86 00:04:12,820 --> 00:04:14,786 but what's been reported to you? 87 00:04:14,788 --> 00:04:17,155 Things moving on their own. 88 00:04:17,157 --> 00:04:19,758 Shadow figures in different forms. 89 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:21,393 Full-body apparitions. 90 00:04:21,395 --> 00:04:22,861 And also mood changes. 91 00:04:22,863 --> 00:04:24,429 With all this concern you have, 92 00:04:24,431 --> 00:04:25,697 why don't you just sell the place? 93 00:04:25,699 --> 00:04:27,199 I'm too invested in the place. 94 00:04:27,201 --> 00:04:28,734 It's a gorgeous building. 95 00:04:28,736 --> 00:04:31,169 I've put many years 96 00:04:31,171 --> 00:04:34,740 in improving it and in restoring it. 97 00:04:34,742 --> 00:04:36,875 Let me show you a photo 98 00:04:36,877 --> 00:04:41,113 of what the facility used to look like. 99 00:04:41,115 --> 00:04:42,814 So, Joe, this must've cost a pretty penny, 100 00:04:42,816 --> 00:04:44,416 for you to restore all this. 101 00:04:44,418 --> 00:04:47,185 It did. It cost me my life savings. 102 00:04:47,187 --> 00:04:48,353 Okay. 103 00:04:48,355 --> 00:04:50,222 Sometimes, my partner, 104 00:04:50,224 --> 00:04:52,524 she'll tell a client that it's not safe to stay here. 105 00:04:52,526 --> 00:04:54,226 How would you take that information? 106 00:04:54,228 --> 00:04:56,395 I don't know how I would deal with that. 107 00:04:56,397 --> 00:04:58,296 That would be devastating news for me. 108 00:05:08,509 --> 00:05:13,979 A lot of the things that are here are not welcoming. 109 00:05:13,981 --> 00:05:16,581 Everything in this room, I despise. 110 00:05:16,583 --> 00:05:19,951 I don't like the flooring. I don't like this bar. 111 00:05:19,953 --> 00:05:24,423 It adds too much chaos to the environment. 112 00:05:27,428 --> 00:05:31,163 There's not many places where you can go here and feel okay. 113 00:05:38,238 --> 00:05:41,006 I think that, for people who are slightly sensitive, 114 00:05:41,008 --> 00:05:44,643 to be here would be a **** nightmare. 115 00:05:44,645 --> 00:05:46,578 I don't think they would last too long, honestly. 116 00:05:46,580 --> 00:05:48,914 I think it would be a real struggle. 117 00:05:48,916 --> 00:05:53,618 I think they would see a lot of stuff all the time. 118 00:05:53,620 --> 00:05:56,855 I think they would feel physically horrendous. 119 00:05:56,857 --> 00:05:59,391 I don't wanna **** be here right now. 120 00:05:59,393 --> 00:06:01,693 I- I don't feel okay here. 121 00:06:01,695 --> 00:06:03,962 I feel like I wanna run. 122 00:06:10,604 --> 00:06:12,003 So, Karyn, I was talkin' to Joe 123 00:06:12,005 --> 00:06:13,572 and he was tellin' me that you guys are partners 124 00:06:13,574 --> 00:06:15,040 and he's concerned for the employees, 125 00:06:15,042 --> 00:06:16,908 as well as the customers that come here. 126 00:06:16,910 --> 00:06:18,543 You agree with him? 127 00:06:18,545 --> 00:06:20,112 Yes, I do agree with him. 128 00:06:20,114 --> 00:06:24,216 My concern is that, customers and employees, 129 00:06:24,218 --> 00:06:26,585 that they are not fearful to be here 130 00:06:26,587 --> 00:06:28,787 and/or in any type of danger. 131 00:06:28,789 --> 00:06:30,689 So I know Joe's never had an experience before. 132 00:06:30,691 --> 00:06:32,224 What about you? 133 00:06:32,226 --> 00:06:34,092 Well, I did have one 134 00:06:34,094 --> 00:06:35,861 back here, with one of my cooks. 135 00:06:35,863 --> 00:06:38,396 Okay. - And a cup like this 136 00:06:38,398 --> 00:06:40,232 flew off of that middle shelf 137 00:06:40,234 --> 00:06:41,867 toward us, at the steam table. 138 00:06:41,869 --> 00:06:43,702 It bounced off and broke on the floor. 139 00:06:43,704 --> 00:06:45,237 And nobody else was in the kitchen at the time? 140 00:06:45,239 --> 00:06:47,439 - No. - And nothin's gonna fall 141 00:06:47,441 --> 00:06:50,842 and fly all the way across, at least 5-, 6-, 7-feet span. 142 00:06:50,844 --> 00:06:52,677 No. Not with the laws of physics. 143 00:06:52,679 --> 00:06:54,179 Doesn't work that way. 144 00:06:54,181 --> 00:06:56,081 Well, it sounds like you had a close call back here. 145 00:06:56,083 --> 00:06:57,249 That coulda been a knife 146 00:06:57,251 --> 00:06:58,650 and you could've been seriously hurt. 147 00:07:01,488 --> 00:07:03,355 Boy. 148 00:07:03,357 --> 00:07:06,491 There's so many accidents here. 149 00:07:08,128 --> 00:07:10,195 It's abnormal. It's not normal. 150 00:07:10,197 --> 00:07:12,130 It's freaking people out. 151 00:07:12,132 --> 00:07:14,966 People falling down, burn. 152 00:07:14,968 --> 00:07:18,770 You know, stupid **** that's so constant, 153 00:07:18,772 --> 00:07:21,139 over and over and over again. 154 00:07:21,141 --> 00:07:24,109 Yeah, it's bad. You know, it's not good, you know? 155 00:07:24,111 --> 00:07:27,913 It's a lot, a lot. 156 00:07:27,915 --> 00:07:30,415 So, have you had any other experiences? 157 00:07:30,417 --> 00:07:33,885 Yes, I did, in the front fine-dining room. 158 00:07:33,887 --> 00:07:37,222 Something brushed up against the back of me. 159 00:07:37,224 --> 00:07:40,058 Did you get the sense it might've been a man or a woman? 160 00:07:40,060 --> 00:07:42,527 No. I didn't get a sense of an actual gender. 161 00:07:42,529 --> 00:07:45,764 I felt like it -- it was almost 162 00:07:45,766 --> 00:07:47,499 as if it was just checking me out. 163 00:07:47,501 --> 00:07:49,267 All right, was the door open, like maybe the wind? 164 00:07:49,269 --> 00:07:52,404 Nothing. No staff. No one. 165 00:07:52,406 --> 00:07:53,839 what are you hopin' to get 166 00:07:53,841 --> 00:07:56,007 outta this investigation? - I'm concerned for 167 00:07:56,009 --> 00:07:58,243 the customers and employees. 168 00:07:58,245 --> 00:08:00,045 I want them to feel safe. 169 00:08:00,047 --> 00:08:03,014 We really want you guys to figure out 170 00:08:03,016 --> 00:08:05,784 what it is that's here and get rid of it. 171 00:08:08,622 --> 00:08:09,855 What is that? 172 00:08:13,827 --> 00:08:16,094 There's a dog. 173 00:08:16,096 --> 00:08:17,796 But it's not a good dog. 174 00:08:17,798 --> 00:08:19,831 It's a bad dog! 175 00:08:21,435 --> 00:08:25,003 And I hear this is what they need to be concerned about. 176 00:08:25,005 --> 00:08:28,240 They all feel things brushing against them. 177 00:08:28,242 --> 00:08:30,408 This is this animal. 178 00:08:30,410 --> 00:08:33,378 It causes bad things to happen. 179 00:08:33,380 --> 00:08:35,280 Is it what's doin' the stuff in here? 180 00:08:35,282 --> 00:08:36,548 Yes. 181 00:08:38,352 --> 00:08:43,221 I do think it's a possibility that, other than just 182 00:08:43,223 --> 00:08:47,592 causing accidents for living people here, 183 00:08:47,594 --> 00:08:50,762 I think that, if the living have 184 00:08:50,764 --> 00:08:54,165 some kind of interaction with the dog, 185 00:08:54,167 --> 00:08:57,836 they are possibly, somehow, marked. 186 00:09:00,540 --> 00:09:01,773 To die. 187 00:09:20,043 --> 00:09:22,410 So, Deborah, I understand that you're the office manager here. 188 00:09:22,412 --> 00:09:26,848 Yes. And I'm a healer, a psychic, and a medium. 189 00:09:26,850 --> 00:09:28,550 Have you had any experiences? 190 00:09:28,552 --> 00:09:30,285 Well, we had a stretch of time here 191 00:09:30,287 --> 00:09:35,390 where people were argumentative, 192 00:09:35,392 --> 00:09:37,792 irritable, depressed. 193 00:09:37,794 --> 00:09:39,928 How do you know that this just wasn't 194 00:09:39,930 --> 00:09:41,863 employees bein' in a bad mood? 195 00:09:41,865 --> 00:09:44,833 Well, it went on for such an extended period 196 00:09:44,835 --> 00:09:47,736 and seemed to involve so many different people, 197 00:09:47,738 --> 00:09:48,937 even people who are normally, 198 00:09:48,939 --> 00:09:50,739 you know, even-keeled. 199 00:09:50,741 --> 00:09:54,476 Whether that's paranormal or not, I don't know. 200 00:09:54,478 --> 00:09:55,844 Anything else? 201 00:09:55,846 --> 00:09:57,045 Yes, actually. 202 00:09:57,047 --> 00:09:59,447 I was walking through the front dining room 203 00:09:59,449 --> 00:10:01,816 Okay. - and I saw a man sitting 204 00:10:01,818 --> 00:10:03,251 at a table. 205 00:10:03,253 --> 00:10:06,187 I turned back around to introduce myself 206 00:10:06,189 --> 00:10:07,288 and there was no one there. 207 00:10:07,290 --> 00:10:09,224 Can you describe him for me? 208 00:10:09,226 --> 00:10:10,792 A little bit tall. 209 00:10:10,794 --> 00:10:12,627 The hair was a little long, 210 00:10:12,629 --> 00:10:14,763 parted in the middle, with wings. 211 00:10:14,765 --> 00:10:17,799 I could feel his intense ownership, 212 00:10:17,801 --> 00:10:20,068 like he was looking over the place 213 00:10:20,070 --> 00:10:21,703 or taking care of it. 214 00:10:21,705 --> 00:10:23,772 Okay. So now, if you saw a sketch or a photo, 215 00:10:23,774 --> 00:10:25,507 would you be able to identify him? 216 00:10:25,509 --> 00:10:27,909 Well, yes. I already have. 217 00:10:27,911 --> 00:10:30,245 And, actually the photograph's over there. 218 00:10:32,015 --> 00:10:33,515 Who is this guy? 219 00:10:33,517 --> 00:10:36,351 He's Henry Frank Gibson, the former owner. 220 00:10:36,353 --> 00:10:37,819 That photo is the guy you saw? 221 00:10:37,821 --> 00:10:40,021 Yes. And I had not seen that photograph 222 00:10:40,023 --> 00:10:43,124 until several days after I had seen the apparition. 223 00:10:47,564 --> 00:10:51,232 I'm seeing this larger male. 224 00:10:51,234 --> 00:10:54,068 He's in his 50s. 225 00:10:54,070 --> 00:10:55,837 His hair, a little longer, a little. 226 00:10:55,839 --> 00:10:59,474 It feels like he had a lot to do with this place. 227 00:10:59,476 --> 00:11:02,944 Feels like a...owner. 228 00:11:02,946 --> 00:11:05,814 Something weird is going on with the dead here. 229 00:11:05,816 --> 00:11:07,582 There just seems to be an issue 230 00:11:07,584 --> 00:11:13,254 with the dead finding rest in this specific area. 231 00:11:13,256 --> 00:11:17,859 The living are sensitive and they will feel their deaths 232 00:11:17,861 --> 00:11:22,030 and they might not understand what they're feeling. 233 00:11:22,032 --> 00:11:27,769 They would feel the sense of dying, the dying process. 234 00:11:27,771 --> 00:11:30,972 I think they would also feel 235 00:11:30,974 --> 00:11:33,942 fear and sadness and anxious. 236 00:11:38,548 --> 00:11:40,582 So, Jane, I understand that you work here. 237 00:11:40,584 --> 00:11:42,450 Yeah, for 5 years. 238 00:11:42,452 --> 00:11:43,985 Any experiences you could tell me about? 239 00:11:43,987 --> 00:11:47,155 Well, yes. When I was hosting, 240 00:11:47,157 --> 00:11:51,893 I sat four lovely ladies at this very table 241 00:11:51,895 --> 00:11:53,595 and then I went to the kitchen 242 00:11:53,597 --> 00:11:56,197 and came back and there were only three, 243 00:11:56,199 --> 00:11:59,300 so I said, "Shall I wait for the fourth one?" 244 00:11:59,302 --> 00:12:00,969 and they said, "No. 245 00:12:00,971 --> 00:12:03,204 There's only three of us here." 246 00:12:03,206 --> 00:12:05,840 You sure that a fourth person didn't come in right behind 'em 247 00:12:05,842 --> 00:12:07,475 and they were just a single customer? 248 00:12:07,477 --> 00:12:11,112 I knew. I knew there were four ladies. 249 00:12:11,114 --> 00:12:13,314 All right. So anything else? 250 00:12:13,316 --> 00:12:15,116 Entering the bar, one night, 251 00:12:15,118 --> 00:12:19,020 an enormous, pitch-black, triangular cape 252 00:12:19,022 --> 00:12:23,057 came flyin' at me from the uppermost ceiling, 253 00:12:23,059 --> 00:12:25,059 down, straight at me, 254 00:12:25,061 --> 00:12:28,530 to the point where I physically jumped. 255 00:12:28,532 --> 00:12:29,931 And then it was gone. 256 00:12:29,933 --> 00:12:32,500 Did it look like it was intentionally going at you? 257 00:12:32,502 --> 00:12:35,003 It did, sir, and it was frightening. 258 00:12:40,977 --> 00:12:44,312 There are a group of beings 259 00:12:44,314 --> 00:12:53,888 out here and they are like smoke. 260 00:12:53,890 --> 00:12:55,623 They're not solid. 261 00:12:55,625 --> 00:12:58,192 You can see through them. 262 00:12:58,194 --> 00:13:01,829 And their eyes are lights. 263 00:13:01,831 --> 00:13:04,866 They made me feel uncomfortable. 264 00:13:13,877 --> 00:13:15,677 What? 265 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:17,645 Just those things are here. 266 00:13:17,647 --> 00:13:20,081 - The smoky things? - Yeah. 267 00:13:20,083 --> 00:13:21,950 How many of these things are there? 268 00:13:21,952 --> 00:13:24,018 Four or five, I'm thinkin'. 269 00:13:26,623 --> 00:13:28,189 Do you know what these things are? 270 00:13:28,191 --> 00:13:31,392 I'm leaning towards some kind of elementals. 271 00:13:31,394 --> 00:13:34,362 Elementals are entities created by nature. 272 00:13:34,364 --> 00:13:37,098 They are not necessarily dangerous. 273 00:13:37,100 --> 00:13:38,399 But these are. 274 00:13:38,401 --> 00:13:40,034 To me, they feel like a threat. 275 00:13:48,812 --> 00:13:50,678 Heather, I understand that you used to work here. 276 00:13:50,680 --> 00:13:53,748 Yes, I did. I was a hostess, server. 277 00:13:53,750 --> 00:13:55,950 So, I assume you've had experiences, then. 278 00:13:55,952 --> 00:13:57,552 Yes. - Okay. Can you take me 279 00:13:57,554 --> 00:13:58,886 through some of 'em? 280 00:13:58,888 --> 00:14:00,955 I did feel some anxiety, 281 00:14:00,957 --> 00:14:03,424 just a tightness, being in here. 282 00:14:03,426 --> 00:14:06,561 I can hear and feel energies around me. 283 00:14:06,563 --> 00:14:09,530 I'm very sensitive if there's another being, 284 00:14:09,532 --> 00:14:13,901 apparition, or energy. 285 00:14:13,903 --> 00:14:15,536 Okay. So, anything else? 286 00:14:15,538 --> 00:14:18,373 I was in the bar area, carrying trays, 287 00:14:18,375 --> 00:14:22,310 and telling a gentlemen, "Excuse me," 288 00:14:22,312 --> 00:14:25,146 standing in my way, wearing a plaid shirt. 289 00:14:25,148 --> 00:14:27,615 And I look. There's nobody there. 290 00:14:27,617 --> 00:14:29,651 Okay. So can you describe that person? 291 00:14:29,653 --> 00:14:33,021 Gruffy, rough-looking, dirty. 292 00:14:33,023 --> 00:14:34,689 Have you seen him again since that time? 293 00:14:34,691 --> 00:14:37,091 Yes. In the kitchen area. 294 00:14:37,093 --> 00:14:38,593 I don't know, 'cause it's being New Age, 295 00:14:38,595 --> 00:14:40,194 or this is a woo-woo type of town, 296 00:14:40,196 --> 00:14:43,865 but everybody seems to take what's goin' on here kinda 297 00:14:43,867 --> 00:14:47,902 "We got ghosts, they throw things, no big deal." 298 00:14:47,904 --> 00:14:49,971 This is what goes on here. 299 00:14:49,973 --> 00:14:53,041 Okay. So, anything else? 300 00:14:53,043 --> 00:14:55,143 When I would go and serve in the dining room, 301 00:14:55,145 --> 00:14:57,011 I saw several dead people 302 00:14:57,013 --> 00:14:59,013 standing amongst the diners. 303 00:14:59,015 --> 00:15:00,848 How many people you talkin'? 304 00:15:00,850 --> 00:15:02,784 5 to 12. 305 00:15:02,786 --> 00:15:04,285 How many times has this happened? 306 00:15:04,287 --> 00:15:06,387 A few times, serving in the dining room. 307 00:15:06,389 --> 00:15:07,689 I would almost drop my tray, 308 00:15:07,691 --> 00:15:08,823 trying to move around someone, 309 00:15:08,825 --> 00:15:10,024 thinking that they're there, 310 00:15:10,026 --> 00:15:11,526 and then, all of a sudden, they're gone. 311 00:15:11,528 --> 00:15:14,429 I- It made me pretty uncomfortable, 312 00:15:14,431 --> 00:15:16,264 to encounter something like that. 313 00:15:21,171 --> 00:15:27,008 I am extremely creeped out. 314 00:15:27,010 --> 00:15:28,309 What's happening? 315 00:15:28,311 --> 00:15:33,848 Anybody who's died here is set up like mannequins. 316 00:15:33,850 --> 00:15:36,617 There's people in these chairs. 317 00:15:40,290 --> 00:15:42,757 But they're dead. 318 00:15:42,759 --> 00:15:45,026 It looks like their physical bodies are here 319 00:15:45,028 --> 00:15:48,529 and their soul is stuck in their physical body 320 00:15:48,531 --> 00:15:53,034 and they've been like propped up like mannequins. 321 00:15:55,672 --> 00:15:59,440 They can't talk or move. 322 00:15:59,442 --> 00:16:02,110 I think the living would maybe see this. 323 00:16:02,112 --> 00:16:05,012 This is cree-ee-py. 324 00:16:05,014 --> 00:16:07,381 I don't like it. 325 00:16:22,105 --> 00:16:23,972 Joe didn't know much history about his restaurant, 326 00:16:23,974 --> 00:16:25,273 so I made some calls 327 00:16:25,275 --> 00:16:28,209 and, it turns out, a guy named George Nelson got shot 328 00:16:28,211 --> 00:16:31,613 and ended up dyin' in his parking lot back in 1957. 329 00:16:31,615 --> 00:16:34,015 I managed to track down the victim's nephew, 330 00:16:34,017 --> 00:16:36,284 who says, even though this is still an open case, 331 00:16:36,286 --> 00:16:38,620 he's got his own theory about what actually happened. 332 00:16:44,828 --> 00:16:49,064 So, Dan, before we get to your uncle's tragic death, 333 00:16:49,066 --> 00:16:50,865 what can you tell me about him? 334 00:16:50,867 --> 00:16:52,534 Here's a picture of him, probably from when 335 00:16:52,536 --> 00:16:54,202 he was a senior in high school. 336 00:16:54,204 --> 00:16:56,137 He was just friendly, nice. 337 00:16:56,139 --> 00:16:57,772 Not an enemy in the world. 338 00:16:57,774 --> 00:16:59,441 All right, Dan, so, if you can, 339 00:16:59,443 --> 00:17:00,975 take me through the night of the murder. What happened? 340 00:17:00,977 --> 00:17:04,346 It happened May 25, 1957, 341 00:17:04,348 --> 00:17:05,847 by the bar that you're investigating. 342 00:17:05,849 --> 00:17:08,283 Rainbow's End was what it was called back then. 343 00:17:08,285 --> 00:17:10,251 My uncle was with a couple of his friends, 344 00:17:10,253 --> 00:17:12,053 a couple of his buddies, then there was 345 00:17:12,055 --> 00:17:14,589 two younger girls that they had picked up. 346 00:17:14,591 --> 00:17:16,891 They all piled in the car. 347 00:17:16,893 --> 00:17:19,027 My uncle was in the passenger seat up front. 348 00:17:19,029 --> 00:17:20,628 Okay. - And one of his friends 349 00:17:20,630 --> 00:17:22,497 was driving and then the other guy was 350 00:17:22,499 --> 00:17:24,599 in the backseat, between the two girls. 351 00:17:24,601 --> 00:17:26,101 One thing you should know is the friend 352 00:17:26,103 --> 00:17:27,402 who was driving was married 353 00:17:27,404 --> 00:17:30,605 and the guy who was in the back had a girlfriend. 354 00:17:30,607 --> 00:17:34,409 They'd just left Rainbow's End 355 00:17:34,411 --> 00:17:36,144 and they passed by a car 356 00:17:36,146 --> 00:17:37,912 that was sittin' on the side of the road. 357 00:17:37,914 --> 00:17:39,781 All of a sudden, the car pulls up bes-- 358 00:17:39,783 --> 00:17:41,416 behind 'em, started following. 359 00:17:41,418 --> 00:17:43,385 George turned around to the guy in the backseat 360 00:17:43,387 --> 00:17:45,320 and said, "You'd better duck down, 361 00:17:45,322 --> 00:17:46,855 'cause your girlfriend's followin' us." 362 00:17:46,857 --> 00:17:48,623 So your uncle recognized the car? 363 00:17:48,625 --> 00:17:51,393 Yes. All of a sudden, boom! Gunshot. 364 00:17:51,395 --> 00:17:53,895 The back window shattered. It hit my uncle in the head. 365 00:17:53,897 --> 00:17:57,365 There's brains everywhere, total chaos. 366 00:17:57,367 --> 00:17:59,534 Witnesses told me that they saw my uncle 367 00:17:59,536 --> 00:18:02,270 "gurgling" on the floorboards of the car, 368 00:18:02,272 --> 00:18:03,805 so, even though his brains were blown apart, 369 00:18:03,807 --> 00:18:05,473 he was still alive. 370 00:18:05,475 --> 00:18:06,674 You know, his body was still alive. 371 00:18:06,676 --> 00:18:08,510 He was breathing. And they turned around 372 00:18:08,512 --> 00:18:11,112 and went back to Rainbow's End, 373 00:18:11,114 --> 00:18:14,115 but, by then, it was too late. He was dead. 374 00:18:14,117 --> 00:18:15,683 I have a copy of 375 00:18:15,685 --> 00:18:17,652 my uncle's death certificate right here. 376 00:18:21,825 --> 00:18:23,358 So do you think this girl intended 377 00:18:23,360 --> 00:18:25,160 to kill somebody in that car? 378 00:18:25,162 --> 00:18:26,694 I think she was actually just trying to scare them 379 00:18:26,696 --> 00:18:29,931 and my uncle died because of it. 380 00:18:29,933 --> 00:18:32,667 So, officially, George Nelson's murder 381 00:18:32,669 --> 00:18:34,502 is unsolved, to this day. 382 00:18:39,276 --> 00:18:42,610 There's some kind of gunfight. 383 00:18:42,612 --> 00:18:45,380 I feel like somebody got shot with a shotgun. 384 00:18:49,286 --> 00:18:50,952 It's a guy and he's young. 385 00:18:54,157 --> 00:18:56,224 It takes him a while to die. 386 00:19:01,531 --> 00:19:04,332 It hurts. It horribly hurts. 387 00:19:04,334 --> 00:19:06,935 It hurts so **** bad. 388 00:19:17,147 --> 00:19:19,214 So far, I've got a restaurant owner scared 389 00:19:19,216 --> 00:19:22,584 for the safety of his employees and guests, on a property 390 00:19:22,586 --> 00:19:25,320 where a man died of a gunshot wound to the head. 391 00:19:25,322 --> 00:19:27,489 But I wanna see if there's anything else. 392 00:19:27,491 --> 00:19:30,091 Searchin' through old records, I find an article 393 00:19:30,093 --> 00:19:33,094 about a local man who died in 2006. 394 00:19:33,096 --> 00:19:34,829 Turns out, he was run over by a car 395 00:19:34,831 --> 00:19:36,531 right outside my client's property. 396 00:19:39,769 --> 00:19:41,769 I'm on my way to meet with the county sheriff, 397 00:19:41,771 --> 00:19:44,772 who says the victim used to be a regular at Joe's restaurant. 398 00:19:52,549 --> 00:19:53,915 So, this guy that got killed 399 00:19:53,917 --> 00:19:55,583 right outside my client's restaurant, 400 00:19:55,585 --> 00:19:57,752 did you find out anything about him? 401 00:19:57,754 --> 00:20:00,054 Actually, I have a photo of him right here. 402 00:20:00,056 --> 00:20:02,090 Randy Lee Austin. 403 00:20:02,092 --> 00:20:03,658 54 years old. 404 00:20:03,660 --> 00:20:07,662 He was kind of a drifter. Came to Sedona in 2005. 405 00:20:07,664 --> 00:20:10,265 He would spend a lot of time at Relics. 406 00:20:10,267 --> 00:20:12,667 What about the day of his death? What happened? 407 00:20:12,669 --> 00:20:15,803 April 4, 2006, he went to Relics, 408 00:20:15,805 --> 00:20:17,171 spent some time there 409 00:20:17,173 --> 00:20:18,907 at your client's establishment. 410 00:20:18,909 --> 00:20:21,075 Okay. - And, as it got dark, 411 00:20:21,077 --> 00:20:22,710 he left the bar. A couple witnesses 412 00:20:22,712 --> 00:20:24,646 had seem him crossing the street. 413 00:20:24,648 --> 00:20:27,115 Another witness said he saw him gettin' down, 414 00:20:27,117 --> 00:20:29,817 actually just laying down, facedown, on the street, 415 00:20:29,819 --> 00:20:33,221 when an oncoming car skidded right over 416 00:20:33,223 --> 00:20:35,356 the top of him, killing him instantly. 417 00:20:35,358 --> 00:20:38,226 Here is a copy 418 00:20:38,228 --> 00:20:42,063 of the obituary in the newspaper. 419 00:20:42,065 --> 00:20:43,765 Why would he be laying down on the road, though? 420 00:20:43,767 --> 00:20:45,700 Well, he was an alcoholic. 421 00:20:50,006 --> 00:20:51,806 I'm getting another death here. 422 00:20:54,611 --> 00:20:57,612 There's something about a car accident. 423 00:21:03,286 --> 00:21:06,487 Somebody **** up their back, bad. 424 00:21:06,489 --> 00:21:08,723 So **** bad. 425 00:21:08,725 --> 00:21:10,692 My God. 426 00:21:10,694 --> 00:21:13,661 I think the dog foretells accidents and stuff, 427 00:21:13,663 --> 00:21:15,396 that it likes to do that. 428 00:21:20,103 --> 00:21:22,637 I think that, if the living 429 00:21:22,639 --> 00:21:25,206 encounter the dog, in some fashion, 430 00:21:25,208 --> 00:21:28,109 like it could be like a harbinger 431 00:21:28,111 --> 00:21:29,844 of death. 432 00:21:33,583 --> 00:21:35,883 If the living see or hear this dog, 433 00:21:35,885 --> 00:21:39,687 it means they're going to die soon. 434 00:21:39,689 --> 00:21:41,522 But it doesn't mean they're gonna die here, 435 00:21:41,524 --> 00:21:43,725 like the car accident thing. 436 00:21:43,727 --> 00:21:46,194 But it seems like some people 437 00:21:46,196 --> 00:21:49,897 who start their dying process here or who die here, 438 00:21:49,899 --> 00:21:52,333 you're either stuck in your death state 439 00:21:52,335 --> 00:21:55,036 or you're like turned into a mannequin. 440 00:22:03,980 --> 00:22:05,313 If you need us to investigate 441 00:22:05,315 --> 00:22:07,215 unexplained activity in your home, 442 00:22:07,217 --> 00:22:10,284 go to the "Dead Files" page at travelchannel.com. 443 00:22:10,286 --> 00:22:11,552 Click on "Help me, Dead Files!" 444 00:22:11,554 --> 00:22:12,854 to submit your story and we'll help if we can. 445 00:22:24,192 --> 00:22:25,492 You could pretty much throw a dart 446 00:22:25,494 --> 00:22:27,861 at a map of the U.S. and you'll hit a spot 447 00:22:27,863 --> 00:22:29,996 where the Native Americans got the shaft. 448 00:22:29,998 --> 00:22:31,331 It's no different here. 449 00:22:31,333 --> 00:22:33,266 I'm on my way to meet with an author who's going to 450 00:22:33,268 --> 00:22:35,635 tell me about what the locals call The Removal. 451 00:22:43,512 --> 00:22:45,512 So, Melissa, thanks for helpin' me out with this case. 452 00:22:45,514 --> 00:22:47,180 Before we get to The Removal, 453 00:22:47,182 --> 00:22:48,948 who were the Native Americans here? 454 00:22:48,950 --> 00:22:50,784 Okay, there were two basic tribes in the area. 455 00:22:50,786 --> 00:22:53,119 They were the Yavapai and the Apache 456 00:22:53,121 --> 00:22:54,688 and they both came in about the same time, 457 00:22:54,690 --> 00:22:57,057 about the mid-1400s. 458 00:22:57,059 --> 00:22:59,359 After the Civil War, late 1860s, 459 00:22:59,361 --> 00:23:02,462 people started pushing West, so, first, the miners 460 00:23:02,464 --> 00:23:04,631 came in, looking for gold and silver, 461 00:23:04,633 --> 00:23:07,300 and then, right after them came white settlers. 462 00:23:07,302 --> 00:23:09,169 Okay. So how'd that go? 463 00:23:09,171 --> 00:23:10,670 Well, it didn't go very well. 464 00:23:10,672 --> 00:23:13,273 There were minor clashes here and there, 465 00:23:13,275 --> 00:23:17,577 until 1872 and the Skeleton Cave Massacre. 466 00:23:17,579 --> 00:23:18,745 Okay, so what happened there? 467 00:23:18,747 --> 00:23:20,780 The soldiers were told to round up 468 00:23:20,782 --> 00:23:22,182 all the Yavapai and Apache 469 00:23:22,184 --> 00:23:23,917 and bring them to the new reservation. 470 00:23:23,919 --> 00:23:25,652 They heard that there were some Apache 471 00:23:25,654 --> 00:23:27,587 held up in a cave. 472 00:23:27,589 --> 00:23:29,456 They went to get them and they fought back. 473 00:23:29,458 --> 00:23:31,191 How many did they kill? 474 00:23:31,193 --> 00:23:33,927 Well, they killed 75 Indians 475 00:23:33,929 --> 00:23:35,462 and they captured probably 30. 476 00:23:35,464 --> 00:23:36,863 That's brutal. 477 00:23:36,865 --> 00:23:38,631 That was brutal. As a matter of fact, 478 00:23:38,633 --> 00:23:42,802 this picture is of the cave in 1908. 479 00:23:42,804 --> 00:23:44,671 So these bones were there this whole time? 480 00:23:44,673 --> 00:23:46,539 They were there the whole time. 481 00:23:46,541 --> 00:23:47,841 And, of course, a lot of the bones 482 00:23:47,843 --> 00:23:49,809 were scattered by wild animals. 483 00:23:49,811 --> 00:23:52,545 So the next plan, in 1875, 484 00:23:52,547 --> 00:23:56,516 was to march them 180 miles south to the 485 00:23:56,518 --> 00:23:59,119 San Carlos reservation, close to Phoenix. 486 00:23:59,121 --> 00:24:01,087 For whatever reason, they decided to do this 487 00:24:01,089 --> 00:24:02,389 in February. 488 00:24:02,391 --> 00:24:04,991 1,500 people started the march 489 00:24:04,993 --> 00:24:07,560 and hundreds died along the way. 490 00:24:07,562 --> 00:24:10,897 I'm curious 'cause, Native Americans, 491 00:24:10,899 --> 00:24:12,599 the way they bury people is pretty sacred. 492 00:24:12,601 --> 00:24:14,167 What happened with the dead along the trail? 493 00:24:14,169 --> 00:24:15,301 They were not allowed 494 00:24:15,303 --> 00:24:17,003 to stop and take care of the dead. 495 00:24:17,005 --> 00:24:18,872 They were forced to just leave the dead, 496 00:24:18,874 --> 00:24:21,107 or probably sick or injured, 497 00:24:21,109 --> 00:24:23,309 where they lay and just keep marching. 498 00:24:23,311 --> 00:24:24,778 That's pretty nasty. 499 00:24:24,780 --> 00:24:27,914 It is, yeah. And, unfortunately, the whites 500 00:24:27,916 --> 00:24:30,150 didn't have much empathy for the Indians, you know? 501 00:24:30,152 --> 00:24:33,186 They had trouble seeing them as "human." 502 00:24:40,328 --> 00:24:43,263 A Native American came up to me. 503 00:24:43,265 --> 00:24:46,833 I'm feeling a lot of people, 504 00:24:46,835 --> 00:24:48,101 being disturbed. 505 00:24:48,103 --> 00:24:52,105 They're not being able to rest. 506 00:24:52,107 --> 00:24:53,406 This isn't right. 507 00:24:53,408 --> 00:24:55,842 This is wrong. They're very unhappy. 508 00:24:55,844 --> 00:24:57,110 They're very sad. 509 00:24:57,112 --> 00:24:58,778 There's a lot of crying. 510 00:24:58,780 --> 00:25:00,513 Do you know what happened to the dead here? 511 00:25:00,515 --> 00:25:05,652 It was over a period of time and they were happy, dead, 512 00:25:05,654 --> 00:25:10,390 and then something happened and they woke up 513 00:25:10,392 --> 00:25:14,994 and then they were disturbed and they're unhappy and crying. 514 00:25:14,996 --> 00:25:16,930 Do you have any idea of when this happened? 515 00:25:16,932 --> 00:25:19,132 It was dirt. 516 00:25:19,134 --> 00:25:20,967 Long time ago. 517 00:25:20,969 --> 00:25:25,939 There's so much illness and mental anguish. 518 00:25:25,941 --> 00:25:29,042 I'm feeling a lot of panic back here, a lot of chaos. 519 00:25:31,813 --> 00:25:35,882 I feel like the living who are here a lot, 520 00:25:35,884 --> 00:25:38,818 they could form disorders. 521 00:25:38,820 --> 00:25:40,954 And I mean like full-on disorders, 522 00:25:40,956 --> 00:25:43,490 like general-anxiety disorders. 523 00:25:43,492 --> 00:25:45,592 Severe stomach issues would develop. 524 00:25:45,594 --> 00:25:48,228 Esophagus issues would develop. 525 00:25:48,230 --> 00:25:50,763 This is bad. 526 00:25:55,971 --> 00:25:58,304 I saw several disturbing things on my walk, 527 00:25:58,306 --> 00:26:00,807 but the dead people propped up like mannequins 528 00:26:00,809 --> 00:26:04,410 in the dining room had me the most concerned. 529 00:26:04,412 --> 00:26:08,681 It's dark and they can't move. 530 00:26:08,683 --> 00:26:11,784 They're trapped inside their bodies? 531 00:26:11,786 --> 00:26:15,188 And their eyes were very scary to me. 532 00:26:15,190 --> 00:26:18,591 They were extremely intense. 533 00:26:27,035 --> 00:26:29,569 Is this what you saw? 534 00:26:29,571 --> 00:26:31,104 Yes, that's what I saw. 535 00:26:52,611 --> 00:26:55,512 Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations, 536 00:26:55,514 --> 00:26:57,614 we're ready to reveal our findings to each other 537 00:26:57,616 --> 00:27:00,450 and our clients for the first time. 538 00:27:00,452 --> 00:27:02,619 So, Amy, I want you to meet Joe. 539 00:27:02,621 --> 00:27:05,221 You wanna know how many experiences he's had? 540 00:27:05,223 --> 00:27:07,123 Zero. None. 541 00:27:07,125 --> 00:27:08,558 Reason he's called us in is 542 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,161 because of people like Deborah, who's his office manager; 543 00:27:11,163 --> 00:27:14,331 and Heather, who worked here for a few years. 544 00:27:14,333 --> 00:27:16,399 They've had a lot of experiences. 545 00:27:16,401 --> 00:27:19,069 Joe thinks the paranormal is costing him business, 546 00:27:19,071 --> 00:27:21,771 but his biggest concern is the safety 547 00:27:21,773 --> 00:27:24,341 for his customers and his employees. 548 00:27:24,343 --> 00:27:25,575 He wants to know what the hell is here 549 00:27:25,577 --> 00:27:27,577 and how to get rid of it. 550 00:27:27,579 --> 00:27:29,612 So now that I told Amy a little bit about you guys, 551 00:27:29,614 --> 00:27:32,882 I'm gonna have her describe her walk. 552 00:27:32,884 --> 00:27:37,087 When I arrived, I was very distracted 553 00:27:37,089 --> 00:27:41,358 by a lot of chaotic and confusing energy. 554 00:27:41,360 --> 00:27:45,628 It had to do with random objects. 555 00:27:45,630 --> 00:27:50,066 Specifically, the wood flooring was bothersome. 556 00:27:50,068 --> 00:27:56,740 The bar and some objects on display in the back room, 557 00:27:56,742 --> 00:28:00,910 these items were emitting chaotic energy 558 00:28:00,912 --> 00:28:05,315 and it just added to the overall 559 00:28:05,317 --> 00:28:08,551 intense energy of this location. 560 00:28:08,553 --> 00:28:10,286 Amy, there's a few things you should know about Joe 561 00:28:10,288 --> 00:28:11,688 and this place. 562 00:28:11,690 --> 00:28:13,123 Now, you were talkin' about the floor and the bar. 563 00:28:13,125 --> 00:28:14,891 Joe and his business partner, Karyn, 564 00:28:14,893 --> 00:28:17,861 did extensive renovations on this place 565 00:28:17,863 --> 00:28:19,929 when they bought it about 13 years ago. 566 00:28:19,931 --> 00:28:22,499 Joe sank his life savings into it. 567 00:28:22,501 --> 00:28:26,803 This what the bar used to look like before. 568 00:28:26,805 --> 00:28:28,905 This is circa 1980. - Wow. 569 00:28:28,907 --> 00:28:30,540 Obviously, just from comin' in here, 570 00:28:30,542 --> 00:28:33,510 you can see the huge amount of work that was done. 571 00:28:33,512 --> 00:28:34,911 Interesting. 572 00:28:34,913 --> 00:28:36,446 That makes a lot of sense. 573 00:28:39,217 --> 00:28:41,684 So, during my walk, 574 00:28:41,686 --> 00:28:45,755 I'm getting sicker and sicker and drained. 575 00:28:45,757 --> 00:28:49,325 I do think that living individuals here 576 00:28:49,327 --> 00:28:53,163 might feel some of that at times, 577 00:28:53,165 --> 00:28:57,066 because there's a lot of stress, a lot of anxiety. 578 00:28:57,068 --> 00:28:59,903 And what I got, in extreme cases, 579 00:28:59,905 --> 00:29:03,339 so if you're here consistently or if you're really sensitive, 580 00:29:03,341 --> 00:29:07,677 you could develop some stomach problems, like ulcers. 581 00:29:07,679 --> 00:29:08,978 Amy, there's something you should know about 582 00:29:08,980 --> 00:29:11,514 the two ladies on both sides of Joe. 583 00:29:11,516 --> 00:29:14,050 Both of them are sensitives 584 00:29:14,052 --> 00:29:16,553 and both of them have spent a lot of time here. 585 00:29:16,555 --> 00:29:18,588 Now, we didn't discuss sickness 586 00:29:18,590 --> 00:29:20,089 when I interviewed both you ladies, 587 00:29:20,091 --> 00:29:23,860 but anxiety and stress was definitely a thing. 588 00:29:23,862 --> 00:29:26,729 I agree with the stress and the anxiety. 589 00:29:26,731 --> 00:29:28,765 Just so much pressure, 590 00:29:28,767 --> 00:29:32,569 so much energy coming at you all at once. 591 00:29:32,571 --> 00:29:37,440 Deborah, you talked to me about the bad vibes in this place. 592 00:29:37,442 --> 00:29:39,042 There was a extended period 593 00:29:39,044 --> 00:29:41,077 where there were a lot of dissension, 594 00:29:41,079 --> 00:29:44,647 a lot of arguments, a lot of customer complaints, 595 00:29:44,649 --> 00:29:47,350 and it was going on amongst many people 596 00:29:47,352 --> 00:29:49,486 for a prolonged period, and even among people 597 00:29:49,488 --> 00:29:52,388 who are normally eventempered. 598 00:29:52,390 --> 00:29:53,623 Interesting. 599 00:29:53,625 --> 00:29:56,226 Okay, so what else on the walk? 600 00:29:56,228 --> 00:30:00,497 So, I went into the kitchen 601 00:30:00,499 --> 00:30:02,632 and what I saw happening in the kitchen 602 00:30:02,634 --> 00:30:06,035 were a lot of ridiculous accidents 603 00:30:06,037 --> 00:30:10,273 and the thing that was causing these accidents was a dead dog. 604 00:30:10,275 --> 00:30:13,343 I got that it is extremely negative 605 00:30:13,345 --> 00:30:18,047 and it's been here for a very long time. 606 00:30:18,049 --> 00:30:21,317 The living might feel it brush up against them. 607 00:30:21,319 --> 00:30:24,921 They might feel weight against them, causing them to move. 608 00:30:24,923 --> 00:30:29,792 If people encounter the dog and they see it or they hear it, 609 00:30:29,794 --> 00:30:34,597 that could actually indicate that that person might die. 610 00:30:37,836 --> 00:30:41,137 It doesn't cause someone to die, 611 00:30:41,139 --> 00:30:47,076 but it could possibly foretell their death. 612 00:30:47,078 --> 00:30:49,646 You're talkin' about accidents in the kitchen. 613 00:30:49,648 --> 00:30:51,748 Joe, tell Amy 614 00:30:51,750 --> 00:30:54,450 what happened to Karyn with the cup. 615 00:30:54,452 --> 00:30:59,489 Karyn actually experienced a cup fly across the room 616 00:30:59,491 --> 00:31:01,558 and she was in there with one of her cooks 617 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,326 and they both saw it. 618 00:31:03,328 --> 00:31:05,595 Now, she also told somethin' 'bout her gettin'... 619 00:31:05,597 --> 00:31:08,464 Brushed behind her, that's correct. 620 00:31:08,466 --> 00:31:10,700 She was just walking through 621 00:31:10,702 --> 00:31:12,769 the dining room up front. 622 00:31:12,771 --> 00:31:15,905 and she experienced something behind her 623 00:31:15,907 --> 00:31:17,907 that she could sense very clearly, 624 00:31:17,909 --> 00:31:19,642 but nothing was there when she looked. 625 00:31:19,644 --> 00:31:21,077 Boy. 626 00:31:21,079 --> 00:31:23,646 That's not good. 627 00:31:25,784 --> 00:31:28,484 So what else? 628 00:31:28,486 --> 00:31:30,920 There were a couple of people that I encountered 629 00:31:30,922 --> 00:31:33,856 who seemed to be stuck in their death states 630 00:31:33,858 --> 00:31:37,493 and reliving their deaths over and over and over again. 631 00:31:37,495 --> 00:31:42,098 I encountered one individual in the bar area. 632 00:31:42,100 --> 00:31:43,967 This was a younger male. 633 00:31:43,969 --> 00:31:46,669 I got that this person was shot 634 00:31:46,671 --> 00:31:51,841 and it felt like my insides were just ripped apart. 635 00:31:51,843 --> 00:31:54,644 It was extremely painful. 636 00:31:54,646 --> 00:31:59,148 I know that it took quite some time to die from this. 637 00:31:59,150 --> 00:32:01,317 Somethin' I came across in my research, 638 00:32:01,319 --> 00:32:04,020 there was a guy who was shot 639 00:32:04,022 --> 00:32:06,689 and then died in the parkin' lot right here. 640 00:32:06,691 --> 00:32:09,292 This happened on May 25, 1957. 641 00:32:09,294 --> 00:32:11,027 19-year-old George Nelson came here 642 00:32:11,029 --> 00:32:13,129 with some friends for a drink. 643 00:32:13,131 --> 00:32:14,597 I actually have a picture of him. 644 00:32:16,067 --> 00:32:18,968 So, now, when they finished drinking here, 645 00:32:18,970 --> 00:32:21,838 George, two guys, and two girls piled into a car 646 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,206 and started to leave. 647 00:32:23,208 --> 00:32:25,908 Guy in the front seat that was driving was married. 648 00:32:25,910 --> 00:32:28,945 And the guy sitting in the back had a girlfriend. 649 00:32:28,947 --> 00:32:30,913 During the drive, George noticed that there was a car 650 00:32:30,915 --> 00:32:33,416 following 'em right outside here. 651 00:32:33,418 --> 00:32:34,550 Before he could do anything, 652 00:32:34,552 --> 00:32:37,453 a shot went through the back windshield. 653 00:32:37,455 --> 00:32:38,688 He was struck in the head by the bullet, 654 00:32:38,690 --> 00:32:39,822 but it didn't kill him right away. 655 00:32:39,824 --> 00:32:43,593 They drove back here to the parkin' lot 656 00:32:43,595 --> 00:32:47,363 and he wound up goin' DOA here. 657 00:32:47,365 --> 00:32:50,600 gunshot wound to the head. 658 00:32:52,904 --> 00:32:58,241 Now, the case is still unsolved, but I spoke to George's nephew. 659 00:32:58,243 --> 00:33:01,978 He thinks that the car that followed them belonged 660 00:33:01,980 --> 00:33:04,881 to the girlfriend of one of the guys in the car. 661 00:33:04,883 --> 00:33:06,215 According to him, the girl was jealous 662 00:33:06,217 --> 00:33:08,484 and she mighta been tryin' to scare them, 663 00:33:08,486 --> 00:33:09,752 wound up killin' a guy. 664 00:33:09,754 --> 00:33:12,655 But she was never questioned about the shooting. 665 00:33:12,657 --> 00:33:14,457 Wow. 666 00:33:17,429 --> 00:33:19,362 So I'm back in the kitchen 667 00:33:19,364 --> 00:33:21,798 and I felt that there was another death. 668 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,801 It had to do with something with the dog. 669 00:33:24,803 --> 00:33:28,738 I got that there was a car accident, 670 00:33:28,740 --> 00:33:33,042 their back was horribly damaged. 671 00:33:33,044 --> 00:33:36,412 I was in so much pain at the time that I had to kneel down. 672 00:33:36,414 --> 00:33:42,485 I got that this happened very close to this location. 673 00:33:42,487 --> 00:33:43,553 I think I know what she's talkin' about. 674 00:33:43,555 --> 00:33:45,054 I'm pretty sure you do. 675 00:33:45,056 --> 00:33:46,322 There was a car accident that happened 676 00:33:46,324 --> 00:33:49,826 right on the street here next to Relics back in 2006. 677 00:33:49,828 --> 00:33:54,130 Randy Austin, he was a regular customer here. 678 00:33:54,132 --> 00:33:57,467 I've got a photo. 679 00:33:57,469 --> 00:33:59,969 Now, he drank here all the time, pretty much every day. 680 00:33:59,971 --> 00:34:01,904 We found out he was a drifter, kind of a homeless guy, 681 00:34:01,906 --> 00:34:03,539 here and there. 682 00:34:03,541 --> 00:34:07,543 On April 4, 2006, after a long day of drinking, 683 00:34:07,545 --> 00:34:09,579 he walked out of the bar 684 00:34:09,581 --> 00:34:11,881 and laid facedown on the road, for some reason. 685 00:34:11,883 --> 00:34:13,316 What? 686 00:34:13,318 --> 00:34:14,917 Now, it's pitch-black out there. 687 00:34:14,919 --> 00:34:17,353 Oncoming car didn't him until it was too late. 688 00:34:17,355 --> 00:34:19,489 It ran right over him. - My -- 689 00:34:19,491 --> 00:34:20,990 He died at the scene. 690 00:34:20,992 --> 00:34:22,225 Now, the driver was cleared. 691 00:34:22,227 --> 00:34:24,494 It was obviously an accident. 692 00:34:24,496 --> 00:34:26,429 He was known by a lot of people 693 00:34:26,431 --> 00:34:29,165 and it was a very sad incident when that occurred. 694 00:34:29,167 --> 00:34:32,668 No one really understood why he did that, either. 695 00:34:32,670 --> 00:34:36,272 So, Amy, do you think that's the same guy? 696 00:34:36,274 --> 00:34:39,142 It could be. 697 00:34:39,144 --> 00:34:41,577 Which is awful. 698 00:34:41,579 --> 00:34:44,013 If it is him, it's unfortunate 699 00:34:44,015 --> 00:34:47,450 because he would be stuck in his death state. 700 00:34:51,656 --> 00:34:54,423 Okay, so we've got accidents. We got shootings. 701 00:34:54,425 --> 00:34:56,159 What else? 702 00:34:56,161 --> 00:35:01,631 I went into the area that is kinda like decorated Victorian. 703 00:35:01,633 --> 00:35:03,900 Which is that front dining room. 704 00:35:03,902 --> 00:35:10,473 And there were these smoky, grayish, blackish, 705 00:35:10,475 --> 00:35:15,344 foggy things that had light for eyes. 706 00:35:19,083 --> 00:35:21,818 Aaaaah! 707 00:35:21,820 --> 00:35:23,920 What? 708 00:35:23,922 --> 00:35:26,055 Just, those things are here. 709 00:35:28,326 --> 00:35:31,894 I kinda pride myself on not being afraid of too many things 710 00:35:31,896 --> 00:35:34,163 and this just really caught me off-guard. 711 00:35:34,165 --> 00:35:35,631 What are these things? 712 00:35:35,633 --> 00:35:39,569 They're elementals, which means they were never alive. 713 00:35:39,571 --> 00:35:43,739 And then, at the tables, I saw like 714 00:35:43,741 --> 00:35:46,542 what initially I thought were mannequins 715 00:35:46,544 --> 00:35:48,678 and there were about 10 of 'em. 716 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:53,716 And then I hear the screaming and I'm like "Okay." 717 00:35:53,718 --> 00:36:00,756 What I got was that these entities had, over many years, 718 00:36:00,758 --> 00:36:04,460 collected several deceased people 719 00:36:04,462 --> 00:36:08,397 and, unfortunately through that collecting process, 720 00:36:08,399 --> 00:36:16,372 they have trapped them here, their souls and their bodies. 721 00:36:16,374 --> 00:36:18,441 - All right. - Walking into the dining room, 722 00:36:18,443 --> 00:36:19,508 - Yeah. - what did I see? 723 00:36:19,510 --> 00:36:21,878 - Yeah, tell her. - People just -- 724 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,446 between 5 and 12, 725 00:36:23,448 --> 00:36:26,649 just standing amongst the diners, 726 00:36:26,651 --> 00:36:28,918 for no reason. 727 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,255 It was an uncomfortable feeling. 728 00:36:32,257 --> 00:36:34,223 I did have a sketch done. 729 00:36:34,225 --> 00:36:37,693 Frankly, I did find it very disturbing. 730 00:36:37,695 --> 00:36:40,029 I would not spend a long time in that room. 731 00:36:40,031 --> 00:36:41,797 It absolutely creeped me out. 732 00:36:47,972 --> 00:36:49,472 I don't know if you guys wanna go back in that room 733 00:36:49,474 --> 00:36:50,640 after seein' this. 734 00:37:04,289 --> 00:37:05,655 I recognize it. 735 00:37:05,657 --> 00:37:06,923 Really? 736 00:37:06,925 --> 00:37:08,324 Yeah. 737 00:37:08,326 --> 00:37:10,192 I've seen this sort of thing 738 00:37:10,194 --> 00:37:13,863 many, many times, over and over again. 739 00:37:13,865 --> 00:37:17,633 It's like something from a horror movie. 740 00:37:17,635 --> 00:37:20,303 This means a lot, that you've seen this, 741 00:37:20,305 --> 00:37:24,073 because I can't share this with other people. 742 00:37:24,075 --> 00:37:27,910 So what do these smoky creatures want with the dead people? 743 00:37:27,912 --> 00:37:32,782 They're collecting them because they think they're beautiful. 744 00:37:32,784 --> 00:37:34,150 Like they're dolls. 745 00:37:34,152 --> 00:37:35,918 They just put 'em where they want 'em. 746 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,187 - Like a toy to them. - Yeah. 747 00:37:38,189 --> 00:37:42,892 And you believe that those individuals 748 00:37:42,894 --> 00:37:46,696 may be these individuals? 749 00:37:46,698 --> 00:37:48,297 I think it's highly likely. 750 00:37:51,369 --> 00:37:53,803 So, Deborah, I noticed you got a little emotional. 751 00:37:53,805 --> 00:37:56,305 Well, I think the suffering 752 00:37:56,307 --> 00:37:59,809 of those souls needs to be addressed. 753 00:37:59,811 --> 00:38:02,912 Joe, it looks like you called us in just in time. 754 00:38:02,914 --> 00:38:05,047 It is bad. It's really bad. 755 00:38:23,510 --> 00:38:25,009 So, Joe, I know you're a skeptic, 756 00:38:25,011 --> 00:38:27,579 but you gotta be pretty blown away by what you heard tonight. 757 00:38:27,581 --> 00:38:29,814 - Absolutely. - Now comes the hard part. 758 00:38:29,816 --> 00:38:32,283 We're gonna find out what it's gonna take for you 759 00:38:32,285 --> 00:38:34,319 to make your restaurant safe again 760 00:38:34,321 --> 00:38:35,987 and, for that, I'm gonna turn it over to Amy. 761 00:38:40,827 --> 00:38:44,329 The first thing is the residual energy. 762 00:38:44,331 --> 00:38:49,968 The entire location needs to be cleaned, from top to bottom, 763 00:38:49,970 --> 00:38:56,508 I'm thinking about one time per month, for 6 months. 764 00:38:56,510 --> 00:39:00,245 I know that's a big job, but this is the best thing 765 00:39:00,247 --> 00:39:03,748 to remove all of this collected energy. 766 00:39:03,750 --> 00:39:05,950 And then, once that's done, 767 00:39:05,952 --> 00:39:09,053 a shaman and a medium need to be contacted, 768 00:39:09,055 --> 00:39:12,390 who are willing to work together. 769 00:39:12,392 --> 00:39:16,428 What I would like the shaman to do is to perform a ritual 770 00:39:16,430 --> 00:39:21,666 to reach out to the elementals, to appease them. 771 00:39:21,668 --> 00:39:26,004 Once that ritual's completed, the medium needs to step in 772 00:39:26,006 --> 00:39:28,406 and help any of the deceased individuals 773 00:39:28,408 --> 00:39:30,842 who don't go on their own. 774 00:39:30,844 --> 00:39:32,777 Many will probably just leave, 775 00:39:32,779 --> 00:39:36,281 but some might be a little stunned, confused, 776 00:39:36,283 --> 00:39:40,318 and the medium may need to assist them in moving them on. 777 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:41,920 Will the dog go, too? 778 00:39:41,922 --> 00:39:43,888 Yes. 779 00:39:43,890 --> 00:39:45,223 So, when the shaman comes in, 780 00:39:45,225 --> 00:39:47,659 is he gonna get rid of these smoky things? 781 00:39:47,661 --> 00:39:51,029 No. What he or she will do is 782 00:39:51,031 --> 00:39:56,634 a ritual that will send a clear message and intention 783 00:39:56,636 --> 00:40:00,505 that they are being acknowledged, 784 00:40:00,507 --> 00:40:05,877 that respect will now be given, that we understand 785 00:40:05,879 --> 00:40:08,947 what they've been through, and things of that nature. 786 00:40:08,949 --> 00:40:10,148 All right. So they'll stay here, 787 00:40:10,150 --> 00:40:11,850 but they're not gonna trap any more souls. 788 00:40:11,852 --> 00:40:14,786 Correct. 789 00:40:14,788 --> 00:40:17,255 They'll leave, but these guys are still here, 790 00:40:17,257 --> 00:40:18,656 with the scary eyes, 791 00:40:18,658 --> 00:40:22,093 shootin' down in my dining room? 792 00:40:22,095 --> 00:40:24,596 Unfortunately, yes. 793 00:40:24,598 --> 00:40:27,465 So people may see these things, living people? 794 00:40:27,467 --> 00:40:31,336 I think, if they're sensitive, yeah. 795 00:40:31,338 --> 00:40:34,906 Then, after that, at least once a week, 796 00:40:34,908 --> 00:40:38,710 you need to make an offering to the elementals. 797 00:40:38,712 --> 00:40:42,347 And my suggestion is to go to one of the local 798 00:40:42,349 --> 00:40:46,718 metaphysical stores and, whatever you feel pulled to, 799 00:40:46,720 --> 00:40:50,655 that's them letting you know, "This is what we want." 800 00:40:50,657 --> 00:40:53,992 So you bring that object back and you say, 801 00:40:53,994 --> 00:40:55,426 "This is now for you" 802 00:40:55,428 --> 00:40:59,931 and you can select an area to place the object in. 803 00:40:59,933 --> 00:41:02,901 So as far as the cleansing, once a month for 6 months, 804 00:41:02,903 --> 00:41:03,902 how will it feel for them? 805 00:41:03,904 --> 00:41:05,904 Yeah. It's gonna be good. 806 00:41:05,906 --> 00:41:07,205 Good energy. 807 00:41:07,207 --> 00:41:11,309 I'm very pleased that all of this came out. 808 00:41:11,311 --> 00:41:13,578 I'm willing to try it. 809 00:41:13,580 --> 00:41:14,946 So, Joe, I know you put your heart 810 00:41:14,948 --> 00:41:17,582 and soul into this place and it means everything to you. 811 00:41:17,584 --> 00:41:20,018 As far as all this stuff Amy suggests to do, 812 00:41:20,020 --> 00:41:22,921 are you gonna take that task on? 813 00:41:22,923 --> 00:41:25,890 Absolutely. 814 00:41:25,892 --> 00:41:28,626 It's too easy. 815 00:41:28,628 --> 00:41:30,795 Joe has a lot of work to do, if he wants to keep 816 00:41:30,797 --> 00:41:34,132 his employees and guests out of harm's way. 817 00:41:34,134 --> 00:41:35,333 With the help of a shaman, 818 00:41:35,335 --> 00:41:38,069 the elementals will stop trapping the dead; 819 00:41:38,071 --> 00:41:40,939 and, with the help of a medium, the dead can move on, 820 00:41:40,941 --> 00:41:43,508 allowing Joe to run his restaurant safely 821 00:41:43,510 --> 00:41:45,343 for many years to come. 822 00:41:45,393 --> 00:41:49,943 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 62392

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