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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:20,121 --> 00:00:21,854 Come on over a minute. 2 00:00:21,856 --> 00:00:23,455 I just had some ideas 3 00:00:23,457 --> 00:00:26,492 that I'd been thinking about for quite a while... 4 00:00:26,494 --> 00:00:29,128 About modulation. 5 00:00:29,130 --> 00:00:33,399 It seems to me that there are... http://worldmkv.com/ 6 00:00:33,401 --> 00:00:37,703 Different themes in life. 7 00:00:39,305 --> 00:00:41,707 And one of my main jobs, 8 00:00:41,709 --> 00:00:43,175 it seems to me, 9 00:00:43,177 --> 00:00:46,045 is to help through the mass media, 10 00:00:46,047 --> 00:00:47,980 for children... 11 00:00:47,982 --> 00:00:49,882 To help children 12 00:00:49,884 --> 00:00:54,253 through some of the difficult modulations of life. 13 00:00:54,255 --> 00:00:57,823 Because it's easy, for instance, to go from c... 14 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,195 - ...to f. 15 00:01:03,197 --> 00:01:06,432 But there are some modulations that aren't so easy. 16 00:01:06,434 --> 00:01:10,702 For instance, to go from f to f-sharp, 17 00:01:10,704 --> 00:01:14,106 you've got to weave through all sorts of things. 18 00:01:14,108 --> 00:01:16,241 And it seems to me, if you've got somebody 19 00:01:16,243 --> 00:01:18,544 to help you as you weave... 20 00:01:18,546 --> 00:01:20,879 Maybe this is just too philosophical. 21 00:01:20,881 --> 00:01:25,184 Maybe I'm trying to... To combine, uh, things that... 22 00:01:25,186 --> 00:01:28,754 That can't be combined, but it makes sense to me. 23 00:01:33,927 --> 00:01:37,429 14 years ago, a television program for children 24 00:01:37,431 --> 00:01:41,633 made its inauspicious debut on station wqed in Pittsburgh. 25 00:01:41,635 --> 00:01:45,537 Its host, Fred Rogers, an ordained minister 26 00:01:45,539 --> 00:01:48,073 with an abiding interest in children 27 00:01:48,075 --> 00:01:50,109 and an equally abiding belief 28 00:01:50,111 --> 00:01:52,711 that they deserve more from television. 29 00:02:59,112 --> 00:03:00,712 -Mr. Rogers? -Yes. 30 00:03:00,714 --> 00:03:02,281 Where do you live? 31 00:03:02,283 --> 00:03:04,783 -I live in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. -Oh. 32 00:03:04,785 --> 00:03:06,818 - Did you want to... 33 00:03:06,820 --> 00:03:08,954 - Pardon me? - They are gathered 34 00:03:08,956 --> 00:03:11,323 in this television studio with Fred Rogers, 35 00:03:11,325 --> 00:03:14,860 an adult who cares just about them. 36 00:03:14,862 --> 00:03:19,364 His reward is the love of millions of children. 37 00:03:19,366 --> 00:03:20,632 I want to tell you something. 38 00:03:20,634 --> 00:03:22,167 What would you like to tell me? 39 00:03:22,169 --> 00:03:24,403 -I like you. -I like you, my dear. 40 00:03:24,405 --> 00:03:26,939 Thank you very much for telling me that. 41 00:03:29,976 --> 00:03:32,544 We had a director that once said to me, 42 00:03:32,546 --> 00:03:34,546 "if you take all of the elements 43 00:03:34,548 --> 00:03:36,215 "that make good television 44 00:03:36,217 --> 00:03:37,716 "and do the exact opposite, 45 00:03:37,718 --> 00:03:39,785 you have mister Rogers' neighborhood." 46 00:03:40,887 --> 00:03:44,056 Low production values, simple set, 47 00:03:44,058 --> 00:03:46,458 unlikely star. 48 00:03:48,061 --> 00:03:50,896 Yet, it worked. 49 00:03:50,898 --> 00:03:55,267 Because he was saying something really important. 50 00:03:57,437 --> 00:04:00,038 Love is at the root of everything. 51 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,909 All learning, all parenting, 52 00:04:03,911 --> 00:04:06,912 all relationships. 53 00:04:07,914 --> 00:04:10,249 Love or the lack of it. 54 00:04:12,352 --> 00:04:16,521 And what we see and hear on the screen 55 00:04:16,523 --> 00:04:19,524 is part of who we become. 56 00:04:20,627 --> 00:04:23,228 He had a singular vision 57 00:04:23,230 --> 00:04:24,863 of kindness and love, 58 00:04:24,865 --> 00:04:28,567 but a question that I think of a lot, in terms of Fred, 59 00:04:28,569 --> 00:04:31,303 is whether his attempt 60 00:04:31,305 --> 00:04:35,707 to influence America succeeded or not. 61 00:04:45,551 --> 00:04:48,220 I was all set to go to the seminary 62 00:04:48,222 --> 00:04:50,122 to become a minister, 63 00:04:50,124 --> 00:04:54,226 but I went home my senior year for a vacation, 64 00:04:54,228 --> 00:04:56,995 and I saw this new thing called television. 65 00:04:56,997 --> 00:04:59,731 Tootsie roll! America's favorite candy... 66 00:05:01,167 --> 00:05:02,834 And I saw people 67 00:05:02,836 --> 00:05:05,003 throwing pies in each other's faces. 68 00:05:05,005 --> 00:05:09,608 And I thought, "this could be a wonderful tool. 69 00:05:09,610 --> 00:05:13,011 Why is it being used this way?" 70 00:05:13,013 --> 00:05:15,647 And so I said to my parents, 71 00:05:15,649 --> 00:05:18,817 "you know, I don't think I'll go to seminary right away. 72 00:05:18,819 --> 00:05:20,986 I think maybe I'll go into television." 73 00:05:20,988 --> 00:05:24,189 And they said, "wait, but you've never even seen it." 74 00:05:28,094 --> 00:05:30,629 Station wqed 75 00:05:30,631 --> 00:05:34,199 is located in the heart of Pittsburgh. 76 00:05:34,201 --> 00:05:38,637 His father told him about this new station 77 00:05:38,639 --> 00:05:40,005 that was coming along here. 78 00:05:40,007 --> 00:05:41,340 It was going to be called... 79 00:05:41,342 --> 00:05:43,709 It was called educational television. 80 00:05:46,814 --> 00:05:48,980 Nobody wanted to do a children's program. 81 00:05:48,982 --> 00:05:50,949 And I said, "well, we need a children's program." 82 00:05:50,951 --> 00:05:52,718 And I said, "well, I'll produce it 83 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,187 "and play some music in the background. 84 00:05:55,189 --> 00:05:57,789 "We'll get some free films, 85 00:05:57,791 --> 00:06:01,293 and, Josie, you can introduce them." 86 00:06:01,295 --> 00:06:05,397 And then we discovered the awful fact 87 00:06:05,399 --> 00:06:07,999 that when you got free film, 88 00:06:08,001 --> 00:06:12,804 it was often brittle, and it would break. 89 00:06:12,806 --> 00:06:15,407 And if you were on the air live, 90 00:06:15,409 --> 00:06:17,008 you had to do something. 91 00:06:17,010 --> 00:06:21,146 Somebody had given me this little tiger puppet. 92 00:06:21,148 --> 00:06:25,484 I pushed it through the clock and said, 93 00:06:25,486 --> 00:06:27,419 "hi, Josie. It's 5:02, 94 00:06:27,421 --> 00:06:30,489 and Columbus discovered America in 1492," 95 00:06:30,491 --> 00:06:32,391 and then just went right back in. 96 00:06:32,393 --> 00:06:35,861 And that's how the puppetry began. 97 00:06:35,863 --> 00:06:38,096 We never expected to use puppets. 98 00:06:40,333 --> 00:06:42,868 You know that... so much of it 99 00:06:42,870 --> 00:06:47,005 was the necessity being the mother of that invention. 100 00:06:48,241 --> 00:06:51,443 My friend, Daniel striped tiger. 101 00:06:51,445 --> 00:06:54,980 How do you do? How do you do? 102 00:06:56,182 --> 00:06:58,683 The interesting thing was-- 103 00:06:58,685 --> 00:07:02,087 dad remembered being six and seven 104 00:07:02,089 --> 00:07:03,922 and eight and nine years old. 105 00:07:03,924 --> 00:07:08,593 That inner child never really went away. 106 00:07:08,595 --> 00:07:10,896 I had every imaginable 107 00:07:10,898 --> 00:07:14,132 childhood disease, even Scarlet fever. 108 00:07:14,134 --> 00:07:18,603 Whenever I was, uh, quarantined, 109 00:07:18,605 --> 00:07:20,405 I would be in bed a lot. 110 00:07:20,407 --> 00:07:22,407 I would put up my knees, 111 00:07:22,409 --> 00:07:26,144 and they would be mountains covered with the sheet. 112 00:07:26,146 --> 00:07:29,714 And I'd have all these little figures moving around, 113 00:07:29,716 --> 00:07:32,684 and I'd... I'd make them talk. 114 00:07:34,053 --> 00:07:37,956 I had to make up a lot of my own fun. 115 00:07:39,258 --> 00:07:41,126 Eh! Take that. 116 00:07:41,128 --> 00:07:42,861 Eh, eh, eh! 117 00:07:43,996 --> 00:07:46,398 What's the matter? 118 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:47,899 Over time, Fred became 119 00:07:47,901 --> 00:07:50,001 unsatisfied with the children's corner. 120 00:07:50,003 --> 00:07:51,403 He thought that it was 121 00:07:51,405 --> 00:07:52,804 simple and slapstick. 122 00:07:52,806 --> 00:07:54,473 And he said he really wanted to concentrate 123 00:07:54,475 --> 00:07:57,442 on the seminary, so he wanted to stop for a while. 124 00:08:02,315 --> 00:08:04,449 His ordination was 125 00:08:04,451 --> 00:08:08,253 as an evangelist for television. 126 00:08:08,255 --> 00:08:11,490 It was pretty way out there for the presbyterian church. 127 00:08:13,426 --> 00:08:14,926 With television, 128 00:08:14,928 --> 00:08:19,331 Fred wanted to focus on the very young. 129 00:08:20,767 --> 00:08:22,534 What do you think it is? 130 00:08:22,536 --> 00:08:23,768 Lion! 131 00:08:23,770 --> 00:08:25,303 A lion. Great. 132 00:08:26,974 --> 00:08:32,377 Back in the 1950s, there was a school of people 133 00:08:32,379 --> 00:08:33,712 at the university of Pittsburgh 134 00:08:33,714 --> 00:08:36,748 looking at early childhood education. 135 00:08:45,625 --> 00:08:46,958 What was it? 136 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:48,793 They felt that physicians 137 00:08:48,795 --> 00:08:51,396 needed a training ground 138 00:08:51,398 --> 00:08:55,534 so that they had a sense of where human behavior 139 00:08:55,536 --> 00:08:57,636 was coming from from the very beginning. 140 00:08:57,638 --> 00:09:02,007 Dr. Benjamin Spock was part of it. 141 00:09:02,009 --> 00:09:05,477 Berry brazelton, the famous pediatrician, was a part of it. 142 00:09:05,479 --> 00:09:10,649 Erik Erikson, the extraordinary psychologist, was a part of it. 143 00:09:10,651 --> 00:09:12,918 And Fred's part of that group. 144 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:14,719 He-he became part of the group 145 00:09:14,721 --> 00:09:16,988 as a student of Margaret mcfarland. 146 00:09:16,990 --> 00:09:19,558 Margaret mcfarland: Fred, I think, 147 00:09:19,560 --> 00:09:22,327 to the child, the television program 148 00:09:22,329 --> 00:09:25,964 between you and the child is a real relationship. 149 00:09:27,567 --> 00:09:29,267 For him to say, 150 00:09:29,269 --> 00:09:31,536 "the feelings of a young child 151 00:09:31,538 --> 00:09:37,042 are every bit as powerful as our adult feelings," 152 00:09:37,044 --> 00:09:38,276 he was radical. 153 00:09:38,278 --> 00:09:40,679 I know everyone says that, but he was radical. 154 00:09:40,681 --> 00:09:43,848 I've always felt that... 155 00:09:43,850 --> 00:09:47,452 That I didn't need to put on a funny hat 156 00:09:47,454 --> 00:09:49,120 or jump through the hoop 157 00:09:49,122 --> 00:09:52,857 to have a relationship with a child. 158 00:09:54,093 --> 00:09:56,861 I went to visit with a new nursery school. 159 00:09:56,863 --> 00:10:01,032 I had never met these children before. 160 00:10:01,034 --> 00:10:03,535 And I walked in, 161 00:10:03,537 --> 00:10:07,238 and there was a long stare from most of them. 162 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:11,910 And one little boy by the name of Thatcher spoke first. 163 00:10:11,912 --> 00:10:15,146 And all he said was, 164 00:10:15,148 --> 00:10:19,284 "my doggy's ear came off 165 00:10:19,286 --> 00:10:21,620 in the automatic washer." 166 00:10:21,622 --> 00:10:23,822 And there was silence. 167 00:10:23,824 --> 00:10:26,157 Just complete silence. 168 00:10:26,159 --> 00:10:27,892 It was as if, 169 00:10:27,894 --> 00:10:31,229 "this is your test, Mr. Rogers. 170 00:10:31,231 --> 00:10:36,301 Are you still in touch with childhood?" 171 00:10:36,303 --> 00:10:39,237 And so I said, 172 00:10:39,239 --> 00:10:43,808 "sometimes that happens to toys, doesn't it? 173 00:10:43,810 --> 00:10:46,578 "Their ears come off or their legs come off, 174 00:10:46,580 --> 00:10:49,414 "but that never happens to us. 175 00:10:49,416 --> 00:10:52,283 "Our ears don't come off. 176 00:10:52,285 --> 00:10:54,319 "Our noses don't come off. 177 00:10:54,321 --> 00:10:56,421 Our arms don't come off." 178 00:10:56,423 --> 00:10:59,090 And Thatcher's eyes were getting bigger 179 00:10:59,092 --> 00:11:01,359 and bigger and bigger, and he said, 180 00:11:01,361 --> 00:11:03,595 "and our legs don't come off?" 181 00:11:03,597 --> 00:11:05,930 And I said, "no, they don't." 182 00:11:07,266 --> 00:11:10,101 And immediately, all of the other children 183 00:11:10,103 --> 00:11:14,773 started asking questions, and poignant questions. 184 00:11:14,775 --> 00:11:17,042 It was just as if, you know, 185 00:11:17,044 --> 00:11:18,810 "we shall now open the door. 186 00:11:18,812 --> 00:11:20,445 "You have passed the test. 187 00:11:20,447 --> 00:11:21,880 You may come in." 188 00:11:27,053 --> 00:11:28,820 And what he wanted to do 189 00:11:28,822 --> 00:11:31,389 was to take all of that that he learned 190 00:11:31,391 --> 00:11:33,958 in television work, 191 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:37,796 add to that the sense of ministry 192 00:11:37,798 --> 00:11:41,800 and the child development background. 193 00:11:41,802 --> 00:11:45,203 It became mister Rogers' neighborhood. 194 00:11:52,645 --> 00:11:54,913 A neighborhood was a place 195 00:11:54,915 --> 00:11:59,217 where, at times that you felt worried, 196 00:11:59,219 --> 00:12:01,586 scared, unsafe, 197 00:12:01,588 --> 00:12:02,987 would take care of you, 198 00:12:02,989 --> 00:12:06,091 would provide understanding, safety. 199 00:12:06,093 --> 00:12:09,394 That's what the neighborhood was for Fred. 200 00:12:13,365 --> 00:12:17,102 Television has the chance 201 00:12:17,104 --> 00:12:21,940 of building a real community... 202 00:12:23,743 --> 00:12:25,977 ...out of an entire country. 203 00:12:30,015 --> 00:12:34,018 The neighborhood is not a fantasy place 204 00:12:34,020 --> 00:12:36,688 where all these different people got together 205 00:12:36,690 --> 00:12:39,057 and everything was happily ever after. 206 00:12:39,059 --> 00:12:41,960 When you have diverse people together 207 00:12:41,962 --> 00:12:43,795 with their different opinions, 208 00:12:43,797 --> 00:12:45,130 you have conflict. 209 00:12:45,132 --> 00:12:46,965 And that's what happens in the neighborhood. 210 00:12:46,967 --> 00:12:50,301 You have conflict, real conflict. 211 00:12:53,206 --> 00:12:54,939 Halt, trolley. 212 00:12:54,941 --> 00:12:59,110 Give me your name, rank and serial number. 213 00:12:59,112 --> 00:13:02,747 "King Friday xiii 214 00:13:02,749 --> 00:13:06,050 "establishes border guard. 215 00:13:06,052 --> 00:13:09,487 King against change." 216 00:13:11,223 --> 00:13:15,326 The parallels between what is happening in the real world 217 00:13:15,328 --> 00:13:17,729 and what is happening inside the neighborhood 218 00:13:17,731 --> 00:13:20,231 are uncanny and undeniable. 219 00:13:24,104 --> 00:13:26,271 In 1968, the country is at war. 220 00:13:26,273 --> 00:13:28,473 He can go on fighting 221 00:13:28,475 --> 00:13:29,741 longer than we can. 222 00:13:29,743 --> 00:13:32,777 Frightened, meow, frightened, meow. 223 00:13:32,779 --> 00:13:35,280 There's nothing to be frightened about 224 00:13:35,282 --> 00:13:37,916 until somebody starts shooting, henrietta. 225 00:13:37,918 --> 00:13:42,487 Meow, meow, start shooting, meow! 226 00:13:45,191 --> 00:13:48,359 That was the first time he knew that he was 227 00:13:48,361 --> 00:13:50,962 producing something for a national audience. 228 00:13:50,964 --> 00:13:54,165 King Friday was really irritated 229 00:13:54,167 --> 00:13:56,301 that people were changing things. 230 00:13:56,303 --> 00:13:59,637 So his reaction as the authority 231 00:13:59,639 --> 00:14:02,273 was to build a wall. 232 00:14:10,483 --> 00:14:12,884 Remember our battle cry, Edgar? 233 00:14:12,886 --> 00:14:15,620 Down with the changers! 234 00:14:21,862 --> 00:14:25,530 -'Cause we're on top. -That's right. 235 00:14:30,036 --> 00:14:32,804 I can't believe what a broad area we covered. 236 00:14:32,806 --> 00:14:34,339 Oh, dear. -Edgar, Edgar, 237 00:14:34,341 --> 00:14:37,342 wh-what do you think he means by "any trouble"? 238 00:14:37,344 --> 00:14:39,677 Fred didn't want you ad-libbing, 239 00:14:39,679 --> 00:14:41,479 putzing around with the words, 240 00:14:41,481 --> 00:14:43,815 because he was always trying to get a message across 241 00:14:43,817 --> 00:14:45,583 in every show. 242 00:14:45,585 --> 00:14:49,487 I want there to be peace in this neighborhood. 243 00:14:49,489 --> 00:14:52,657 It's been a hard time for everyone. 244 00:14:52,659 --> 00:14:56,361 Well, I really do hope that what you say will work. 245 00:14:56,363 --> 00:14:58,162 Do you have the tags on the bottom? 246 00:14:58,164 --> 00:14:59,864 Yes, I... I put 'em on. 247 00:14:59,866 --> 00:15:01,833 -Look, see if you like them. -Good. 248 00:15:01,835 --> 00:15:03,334 "Love," this one says. 249 00:15:03,336 --> 00:15:06,938 And then we float them over into the castle 250 00:15:06,940 --> 00:15:08,773 so that great uncle Friday will know 251 00:15:08,775 --> 00:15:11,342 that the whole neighborhood wants peace. 252 00:15:11,344 --> 00:15:13,511 Paratroopers! 253 00:15:13,513 --> 00:15:14,846 Fire the Cannon! 254 00:15:14,848 --> 00:15:16,281 Hold it, king Friday. 255 00:15:16,283 --> 00:15:17,949 -Well, what is it? -They're not paratroopers. 256 00:15:17,951 --> 00:15:19,083 They're... They're messages of peace. 257 00:15:19,085 --> 00:15:20,718 Look at this: "Tenderness." 258 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:22,754 Messages of peace? 259 00:15:22,756 --> 00:15:24,856 "Peaceful co-existence." 260 00:15:24,858 --> 00:15:26,090 -Wait. -You see, that one was... 261 00:15:26,092 --> 00:15:27,525 They're peaceful messages, sir. 262 00:15:27,527 --> 00:15:29,560 Let us stop all fighting. 263 00:15:29,562 --> 00:15:32,530 Stop all fighting now. 264 00:15:32,532 --> 00:15:35,733 --Oh, superb! Superb! 265 00:15:35,735 --> 00:15:38,036 Meow, wonderful, meow. 266 00:15:38,038 --> 00:15:40,138 That was the first week. 267 00:15:40,140 --> 00:15:42,907 That's how it got started. 268 00:15:57,056 --> 00:15:58,723 From the early days 269 00:15:58,725 --> 00:16:00,792 of mister Rogers' neighborhood 270 00:16:00,794 --> 00:16:04,062 until the end of that program, he came in the door 271 00:16:04,064 --> 00:16:06,230 every day the same way. 272 00:16:07,266 --> 00:16:08,666 Hi. 273 00:16:08,668 --> 00:16:10,068 Hello. 274 00:16:10,070 --> 00:16:12,236 And he changed to the sweater 275 00:16:12,238 --> 00:16:14,405 to give a sense that we are gonna have 276 00:16:14,407 --> 00:16:16,641 this relaxing time together. 277 00:16:16,643 --> 00:16:17,675 Whoop. 278 00:16:17,677 --> 00:16:19,510 Change the shoes. 279 00:16:25,484 --> 00:16:27,585 Some food for the fish. 280 00:16:28,620 --> 00:16:30,254 Picture picture on the wall, 281 00:16:30,256 --> 00:16:32,657 would you kindly tell us all, 282 00:16:32,659 --> 00:16:34,759 is Mr. mcfeely on his way here? 283 00:16:34,761 --> 00:16:37,762 My job was to be the prop person. 284 00:16:37,764 --> 00:16:39,664 And then he said, "oh, 285 00:16:39,666 --> 00:16:42,100 "i know you've done some... some acting. 286 00:16:42,102 --> 00:16:44,869 "I'd like you to play the character 287 00:16:44,871 --> 00:16:46,004 of the delivery man." 288 00:16:46,006 --> 00:16:47,538 I must go off, Mr. Rogers. 289 00:16:47,540 --> 00:16:49,607 I have a lot of deliveries today in the neighborhood. 290 00:16:49,609 --> 00:16:52,543 So I became Mr. mcfeely on the spot. 291 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,181 The trolley left for its house 292 00:16:57,183 --> 00:17:01,185 into the neighborhood of make-believe. 293 00:17:02,187 --> 00:17:04,989 Boomerang, toomerang, soomerang! 294 00:17:04,991 --> 00:17:07,492 Anything could happen in make-believe. 295 00:17:07,494 --> 00:17:08,693 Oh! 296 00:17:08,695 --> 00:17:10,028 But make-believe was not real. 297 00:17:10,030 --> 00:17:11,462 I mean, there was a distinction. 298 00:17:11,464 --> 00:17:14,399 Fred never appeared in make-believe. 299 00:17:14,401 --> 00:17:16,567 Actors did. The puppets did. 300 00:17:16,569 --> 00:17:18,369 There's the clock 301 00:17:18,371 --> 00:17:21,139 where Daniel striped tiger lives. 302 00:17:22,642 --> 00:17:25,643 Next you see king Friday xiii's castle. 303 00:17:25,645 --> 00:17:29,180 King Friday xiii is one of the few remaining 304 00:17:29,182 --> 00:17:31,649 benevolent despots. 305 00:17:31,651 --> 00:17:36,821 These characters are... Were people in his life. 306 00:17:36,823 --> 00:17:37,922 Queen Sara 307 00:17:37,924 --> 00:17:41,225 would obviously be my mom. 308 00:17:41,227 --> 00:17:43,161 I'd just like to say 309 00:17:43,163 --> 00:17:46,164 what a fine person my husband is. 310 00:17:46,166 --> 00:17:48,666 Why, Sara. 311 00:17:48,668 --> 00:17:51,436 None of us like to think of lady Elaine 312 00:17:51,438 --> 00:17:54,505 as my aunt, but we wonder about that. 313 00:17:55,508 --> 00:17:58,509 In the beginning, she was a witch. 314 00:17:58,511 --> 00:17:59,744 I heard that. 315 00:17:59,746 --> 00:18:01,345 Here's a squirt. 316 00:18:01,347 --> 00:18:03,414 What can I say? 317 00:18:04,516 --> 00:18:06,584 In a beautiful tree 318 00:18:06,586 --> 00:18:09,887 lived x the owl and henrietta pussycat. 319 00:18:09,889 --> 00:18:13,591 Meow, meow, beautiful day, meow, meow, neighborhood. 320 00:18:15,028 --> 00:18:18,229 And then, at the end of every program, 321 00:18:18,231 --> 00:18:20,798 we came back to Fred's television house. 322 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:25,636 And to help children understand all of these experiences, 323 00:18:25,638 --> 00:18:27,405 he put that into a song. 324 00:18:39,953 --> 00:18:42,053 And children need to hear that. 325 00:18:42,055 --> 00:18:44,589 I don't think that anybody can grow 326 00:18:44,591 --> 00:18:48,659 unless he really is accepted exactly as he is. 327 00:18:50,562 --> 00:18:53,397 I think he was one of those people 328 00:18:53,399 --> 00:18:55,733 who would do their work seriously 329 00:18:55,735 --> 00:18:59,337 and they hope that someone will pick up on the seriousness 330 00:18:59,339 --> 00:19:02,473 of what they're about. 331 00:19:02,475 --> 00:19:04,242 There were times when he thought, 332 00:19:04,244 --> 00:19:07,745 "will people ever understand that I'm not just a klutzy guy 333 00:19:07,747 --> 00:19:10,748 "who's fumbling around in a '50s living room with... 334 00:19:10,750 --> 00:19:12,116 With weird curtains?" 335 00:19:12,118 --> 00:19:15,753 Wgbh in Boston decided to have 336 00:19:15,755 --> 00:19:18,356 something called a Mr. Rogers day. 337 00:19:18,358 --> 00:19:20,424 There was just a woman in... in gbh 338 00:19:20,426 --> 00:19:22,793 who was in their PR department who loved the program, 339 00:19:22,795 --> 00:19:25,530 and I think her colleagues said... 340 00:19:25,532 --> 00:19:27,765 You know, I think they thought it was really simple, 341 00:19:27,767 --> 00:19:30,434 kind of '50s, square. 342 00:19:30,436 --> 00:19:32,637 And she said, "no, I really want to bring him here, 343 00:19:32,639 --> 00:19:35,306 and I want families to be able to come and see him." 344 00:19:37,010 --> 00:19:40,278 And the line to get in 345 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,214 was blocks and blocks long 346 00:19:43,216 --> 00:19:45,850 before they even opened the doors. 347 00:19:45,852 --> 00:19:48,019 And the word got around really quickly 348 00:19:48,021 --> 00:19:51,589 that there's something going on with this guy. 349 00:19:53,559 --> 00:19:57,028 Mr. Rogers, Mr. Rogers. 350 00:19:57,030 --> 00:20:00,031 I like you as you are. 351 00:20:02,335 --> 00:20:04,035 A little boy came up 352 00:20:04,037 --> 00:20:09,807 to him and said, "Mr. Rogers, how did you get out?" 353 00:20:09,809 --> 00:20:12,577 And so he talked to the little boy, 354 00:20:12,579 --> 00:20:14,478 explained what television was all about. 355 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:15,846 And the little boy's just 356 00:20:15,848 --> 00:20:19,483 taking it all in, going, "mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm." 357 00:20:19,485 --> 00:20:22,486 And he... When Fred finished, he said... 358 00:20:22,488 --> 00:20:24,322 The little boy said, 359 00:20:24,324 --> 00:20:26,824 "how are you gonna get back in?" 360 00:20:32,899 --> 00:20:35,032 There was a whole 361 00:20:35,034 --> 00:20:39,103 spiritual dimension to his work in the television business 362 00:20:39,105 --> 00:20:41,672 to be inclusive. 363 00:20:41,674 --> 00:20:43,674 He did this without ever 364 00:20:43,676 --> 00:20:47,745 identifying himself as a minister. 365 00:20:49,081 --> 00:20:52,450 He didn't wear a collar. He wore a sweater. 366 00:20:54,052 --> 00:20:56,787 And he preached in that context 367 00:20:56,789 --> 00:21:00,858 in a way more effective than anyone I've ever seen, 368 00:21:00,860 --> 00:21:05,529 because it wasn't a sermon like, uh, an oratorical thing. 369 00:21:05,531 --> 00:21:09,600 It was a communication right into their hearts. 370 00:21:13,639 --> 00:21:16,741 He was a life-long registered republican, 371 00:21:16,743 --> 00:21:20,645 and if you look at the values that Mr. Rogers represented, 372 00:21:20,647 --> 00:21:23,247 it's influenced by his faith. 373 00:21:23,249 --> 00:21:27,118 His christianity was this kind of wide open christianity 374 00:21:27,120 --> 00:21:30,554 that was accepting thinking from all other places 375 00:21:30,556 --> 00:21:34,725 while never departing from the Christian faith. 376 00:21:35,894 --> 00:21:37,662 Fred's theology was: 377 00:21:37,664 --> 00:21:40,164 Love your neighbor and love yourself. 378 00:21:40,166 --> 00:21:42,900 And he saw that communication 379 00:21:42,902 --> 00:21:46,237 as the most deeply spiritual thing 380 00:21:46,239 --> 00:21:48,506 that he could be doing. 381 00:21:52,010 --> 00:21:54,312 When I look at the camera, 382 00:21:54,314 --> 00:21:57,348 I think of one person. 383 00:21:58,617 --> 00:22:02,186 Not any specific person, but one person. 384 00:22:02,188 --> 00:22:05,756 It's very, very personal. 385 00:22:08,126 --> 00:22:10,761 The space between the television screen 386 00:22:10,763 --> 00:22:13,664 and whoever happens to be receiving it, 387 00:22:13,666 --> 00:22:16,000 I consider that very holy ground. 388 00:22:18,270 --> 00:22:20,371 A lot happens. 389 00:22:20,373 --> 00:22:22,273 A lot happens there. 390 00:22:28,780 --> 00:22:31,382 For somebody who was in television, 391 00:22:31,384 --> 00:22:33,484 he was just... He hated television. 392 00:22:38,123 --> 00:22:40,458 Here, buddy. It's all yours. 393 00:22:40,460 --> 00:22:42,526 Wow, look at this! 394 00:22:42,528 --> 00:22:44,462 Hey! What about me? 395 00:22:44,464 --> 00:22:46,964 In this country, the child 396 00:22:46,966 --> 00:22:49,633 is appreciated for what he will be. 397 00:22:49,635 --> 00:22:53,204 He will be a great consumer someday. 398 00:22:53,206 --> 00:22:57,408 The quicker we can get them to go out and buy, the better. 399 00:22:57,410 --> 00:23:01,312 There's so much of that in this country. 400 00:23:01,314 --> 00:23:03,647 Mr. Ellison, I think you have felt strongly 401 00:23:03,649 --> 00:23:05,483 about some aspects of this. 402 00:23:05,485 --> 00:23:10,688 Public television could make a contribution. 403 00:23:10,690 --> 00:23:13,991 As the American people 404 00:23:13,993 --> 00:23:17,728 becomes aware of itself, it discovers itself. 405 00:23:17,730 --> 00:23:21,866 We do not know as much as we should know 406 00:23:21,868 --> 00:23:26,237 about who we are, what we are and how we differ. 407 00:23:26,239 --> 00:23:30,040 How will man use his miracles? 408 00:23:30,042 --> 00:23:34,245 The answer just begins with public television. 409 00:23:34,247 --> 00:23:36,514 We want most of all 410 00:23:36,516 --> 00:23:39,517 to enrich man's spirit, 411 00:23:39,519 --> 00:23:42,186 and that is the purpose of this act. 412 00:23:48,360 --> 00:23:50,294 And then Nixon became president, 413 00:23:50,296 --> 00:23:52,463 and he wanted to cut the funding. 414 00:23:52,465 --> 00:23:55,099 The beginnings of pbs 415 00:23:55,101 --> 00:23:59,036 was gonna probably be dismantled by Richard Nixon, 416 00:23:59,038 --> 00:24:04,975 whose approach to media was to threaten stations 417 00:24:04,977 --> 00:24:08,078 if they didn't behave politically. 418 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,548 Nixon had a problem with his budget. 419 00:24:10,550 --> 00:24:13,083 He had to find money for the Vietnam war. 420 00:24:13,085 --> 00:24:15,886 It wasn't a lot of money in today's terms, 421 00:24:15,888 --> 00:24:16,921 but he wanted to cut the budget. 422 00:24:16,923 --> 00:24:19,256 In the midst of all this, 423 00:24:19,258 --> 00:24:21,058 Fred Rogers gets 424 00:24:21,060 --> 00:24:22,660 to go before congress, 425 00:24:22,662 --> 00:24:26,297 argue for $20 million of funding 426 00:24:26,299 --> 00:24:28,466 to sort of solidify pbs, 427 00:24:28,468 --> 00:24:30,501 in front of John pastore, 428 00:24:30,503 --> 00:24:32,970 who's a senator who had already 429 00:24:32,972 --> 00:24:35,406 sort of made his congressional bones 430 00:24:35,408 --> 00:24:37,141 by attacking television. 431 00:24:37,143 --> 00:24:39,477 This is going to be a thorough hearing. 432 00:24:39,479 --> 00:24:42,847 This is going to be a hearing not to reach for a headline, 433 00:24:42,849 --> 00:24:45,082 but to reach for a result. 434 00:24:45,084 --> 00:24:47,585 There had been two days of hearings, 435 00:24:47,587 --> 00:24:49,787 and he hasn't been very impressed. http://worldmkv.com/ 436 00:24:49,789 --> 00:24:51,922 If you'd been watching those hearings 437 00:24:51,924 --> 00:24:53,657 and you had to bet on whether or not 438 00:24:53,659 --> 00:24:55,092 pbs was going to keep going-- no. http://worldmkv.com/ 439 00:24:55,094 --> 00:24:57,461 That educational television should permanently 440 00:24:57,463 --> 00:24:59,930 struggle for subsistence is intolerable. 441 00:24:59,932 --> 00:25:01,665 All right, who's the next witness? 442 00:25:03,035 --> 00:25:05,803 Senator pastore told the group, 443 00:25:05,805 --> 00:25:08,439 "I've heard everybody read your testimonies. 444 00:25:08,441 --> 00:25:10,040 "I don't want anyone to read anymore. 445 00:25:10,042 --> 00:25:11,942 I'm tired of hearing the reading." 446 00:25:11,944 --> 00:25:14,778 When I heard about that, I thought, "uh-oh, Fred." 447 00:25:14,780 --> 00:25:17,014 All right, Rogers, you've got the floor. 448 00:25:18,784 --> 00:25:20,818 - May I use this? - And I could hear 449 00:25:20,820 --> 00:25:23,621 in his voice the... the nerves. 450 00:25:23,623 --> 00:25:26,857 Senator pastore, 451 00:25:26,859 --> 00:25:30,494 this is a philosophical statement 452 00:25:30,496 --> 00:25:33,364 and would take about ten minutes to read. 453 00:25:33,366 --> 00:25:35,533 So I'll not do that. Uh... 454 00:25:36,668 --> 00:25:40,337 One of the first things that a child learns 455 00:25:40,339 --> 00:25:43,140 in a healthy family is trust. 456 00:25:43,142 --> 00:25:47,311 And I trust what you have said, that you will read this. 457 00:25:47,313 --> 00:25:49,680 It's very important to me. 458 00:25:49,682 --> 00:25:52,349 I care deeply about children. 459 00:25:52,351 --> 00:25:54,518 My first children... 460 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,654 Will it make you happy if you read it? 461 00:25:56,656 --> 00:25:58,155 I'd just like to talk about it, 462 00:25:58,157 --> 00:25:59,757 -if it's all right. -All right, sir. 463 00:25:59,759 --> 00:26:02,693 This is what I give. 464 00:26:02,695 --> 00:26:07,164 I give an expression of care every day to each child 465 00:26:07,166 --> 00:26:10,834 to help him realize that he is unique. 466 00:26:10,836 --> 00:26:13,504 I end the program by saying, 467 00:26:13,506 --> 00:26:16,073 "you've made this day a special day 468 00:26:16,075 --> 00:26:18,375 "by just your being you. 469 00:26:18,377 --> 00:26:22,079 "There's no person in the whole world like you. 470 00:26:22,081 --> 00:26:24,915 And I like you just the way you are." 471 00:26:24,917 --> 00:26:28,252 And I feel that if we in public television 472 00:26:28,254 --> 00:26:31,922 can only make it clear 473 00:26:31,924 --> 00:26:36,860 that feelings are mentionable and manageable, 474 00:26:36,862 --> 00:26:39,096 we will have done a great service. 475 00:26:40,365 --> 00:26:42,733 Uh, could I tell you the words 476 00:26:42,735 --> 00:26:46,136 of one of the songs, which I feel is very important? 477 00:26:46,138 --> 00:26:47,438 Yes. 478 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:51,408 This has to do with that good feeling of control, 479 00:26:51,410 --> 00:26:52,810 which I feel that... 480 00:26:52,812 --> 00:26:56,313 That children need to know is there. 481 00:26:56,315 --> 00:26:59,984 And it starts out, "what do you do with the mad that you feel?" 482 00:26:59,986 --> 00:27:02,786 And that first line came straight from a child. 483 00:27:02,788 --> 00:27:06,056 I work with children, doing puppets in... 484 00:27:06,058 --> 00:27:10,227 In very personal communication with small groups. 485 00:27:10,229 --> 00:27:12,563 "What do you do with the mad that you feel 486 00:27:12,565 --> 00:27:15,332 "when you feel so mad you could bite? 487 00:27:15,334 --> 00:27:18,969 "When the whole wide world seems oh so wrong 488 00:27:18,971 --> 00:27:22,740 "and nothing you do seems very right? 489 00:27:22,742 --> 00:27:25,609 "It's great to be able to stop 490 00:27:25,611 --> 00:27:28,245 "when you've planned a thing that's wrong 491 00:27:28,247 --> 00:27:31,682 "and be able to do something else instead 492 00:27:31,684 --> 00:27:33,784 "and think this song. 493 00:27:33,786 --> 00:27:37,988 "I can stop when I want to, can stop when I wish, 494 00:27:37,990 --> 00:27:40,824 "can stop, stop, stop anytime. 495 00:27:40,826 --> 00:27:44,128 "Know that there's something deep inside 496 00:27:44,130 --> 00:27:47,364 that helps us become what we can." 497 00:27:48,867 --> 00:27:53,337 I think it's wonderful. I think it's wonderful. 498 00:27:53,339 --> 00:27:56,774 Looks like you just earned the $20 million. 499 00:28:06,618 --> 00:28:09,953 Fred Rogers is easily the star of the show, 500 00:28:09,955 --> 00:28:11,955 and if children had votes, 501 00:28:11,957 --> 00:28:14,658 public television would be on easy street tomorrow. 502 00:28:17,630 --> 00:28:20,064 - Oh, wow. 503 00:28:20,066 --> 00:28:22,466 Everything just sort of exploded. 504 00:28:22,468 --> 00:28:24,668 You know, suddenly there was press 505 00:28:24,670 --> 00:28:27,404 beating a path to our door. 506 00:28:27,406 --> 00:28:29,406 Good evening. I was in Pittsburgh 507 00:28:29,408 --> 00:28:31,141 a few days ago 508 00:28:31,143 --> 00:28:32,476 doing a bit of investigative reporting 509 00:28:32,478 --> 00:28:33,977 on a man named Fred Rogers. 510 00:28:33,979 --> 00:28:35,646 Meow, meow, meow, meow. 511 00:28:35,648 --> 00:28:37,314 Wonderful. Meow! 512 00:28:37,316 --> 00:28:39,483 Mr. Rogers does ten different voices 513 00:28:39,485 --> 00:28:41,185 for ten different puppets. 514 00:28:41,187 --> 00:28:44,521 Well, a copperhead is poisonous, is it not? 515 00:28:44,523 --> 00:28:46,523 He writes, he's the producer, 516 00:28:46,525 --> 00:28:49,860 he is the chief performer, and he is a marvel. 517 00:28:49,862 --> 00:28:51,662 Fred Rogers, as best I can tell, 518 00:28:51,664 --> 00:28:55,165 has managed to escape the calloused, the embittered, 519 00:28:55,167 --> 00:28:58,502 the negative aspects of being a public performer. 520 00:28:58,504 --> 00:29:00,537 He is doing the one thing in the world 521 00:29:00,539 --> 00:29:04,742 that he wishes to do, and he is by any definition a happy man. 522 00:29:14,519 --> 00:29:18,021 I sometimes wonder myself how he ticked. 523 00:29:18,023 --> 00:29:21,024 It's a little tough for me to have the... 524 00:29:21,026 --> 00:29:23,927 Almost the second Christ as my dad. 525 00:29:23,929 --> 00:29:26,230 If we were at the dinner table 526 00:29:26,232 --> 00:29:28,532 and he would want to say something 527 00:29:28,534 --> 00:29:30,234 that wasn't necessarily 528 00:29:30,236 --> 00:29:35,973 Mr. Rogers-like, he would say it in 529 00:29:35,975 --> 00:29:37,541 lady Elaine fairchilde's voice. 530 00:29:37,543 --> 00:29:38,876 Get out here, Friday. 531 00:29:38,878 --> 00:29:40,477 I need to speak with you. 532 00:29:40,479 --> 00:29:43,781 That was our cue that this is the alter-ego 533 00:29:43,783 --> 00:29:45,215 speaking now, you know, 534 00:29:45,217 --> 00:29:47,584 and just letting off a little steam. 535 00:29:49,922 --> 00:29:52,556 He and I both had childhoods 536 00:29:52,558 --> 00:29:55,492 that you weren't allowed to be angry. 537 00:29:55,494 --> 00:29:58,595 You weren't allowed to show your anger. 538 00:29:59,999 --> 00:30:02,900 And we were never able to do it. 539 00:30:04,435 --> 00:30:06,336 It scared us. 540 00:30:10,074 --> 00:30:13,143 Music was my first language. 541 00:30:14,946 --> 00:30:17,815 I was scared to use words. 542 00:30:19,752 --> 00:30:22,085 I didn't want to be a bad boy. 543 00:30:22,087 --> 00:30:25,522 I didn't want to tell people that I was angry. 544 00:30:28,793 --> 00:30:31,829 But I could show it through... 545 00:30:31,831 --> 00:30:35,199 The way I would play on the piano. 546 00:30:35,201 --> 00:30:39,269 I could literally laugh or cry 547 00:30:39,271 --> 00:30:43,440 or be very angry through the ends of my fingers. 548 00:30:49,781 --> 00:30:52,449 I've always felt that you were someone who could understand 549 00:30:52,451 --> 00:30:55,886 the deep feelings or thoughts of people. 550 00:30:55,888 --> 00:30:59,489 Well, it took me so long to get tame. 551 00:30:59,491 --> 00:31:02,125 I try to understand how everybody else 552 00:31:02,127 --> 00:31:04,361 is working at it. 553 00:31:04,363 --> 00:31:06,463 Sometimes it isn't easy. 554 00:31:06,465 --> 00:31:08,966 No, but it's worth a try. 555 00:31:08,968 --> 00:31:12,803 Daniel was pretty much Fred. 556 00:31:12,805 --> 00:31:15,973 He did all the voices, but, uh... 557 00:31:15,975 --> 00:31:20,878 But I think Daniel was the real Fred. 558 00:31:22,313 --> 00:31:25,482 Maybe I could talk about clocks 559 00:31:25,484 --> 00:31:27,551 and loving... 560 00:31:27,553 --> 00:31:28,919 And things like that. 561 00:31:28,921 --> 00:31:30,821 A, b, c, d, 562 00:31:30,823 --> 00:31:33,257 f, g, j, k, 563 00:31:33,259 --> 00:31:34,591 l, m, s... 564 00:31:34,593 --> 00:31:38,729 Oh, lady aberlin, I just can't go to school tomorrow. 565 00:31:38,731 --> 00:31:40,397 Why not, Daniel? 566 00:31:40,399 --> 00:31:43,233 Because I don't know everything. 567 00:31:43,235 --> 00:31:47,204 Daniel is articulating 568 00:31:47,206 --> 00:31:49,907 the fears and anxieties and feelings 569 00:31:49,909 --> 00:31:53,176 that Fred had as a child, 570 00:31:53,178 --> 00:31:55,512 but that many children have. 571 00:31:59,350 --> 00:32:03,353 He never forgot how vulnerable it was to be a kid. 572 00:32:03,355 --> 00:32:05,555 You know, you're this little thing. 573 00:32:05,557 --> 00:32:08,525 Everything else in the world is bigger than you are, 574 00:32:08,527 --> 00:32:10,861 and you have to learn everything 575 00:32:10,863 --> 00:32:12,596 that helps you get through in life. 576 00:32:14,899 --> 00:32:17,567 I think that it just never left him. 577 00:32:17,569 --> 00:32:20,637 Whatever those scars of his life were, 578 00:32:20,639 --> 00:32:25,175 he wanted to help heal that wound, maybe? 579 00:32:27,045 --> 00:32:30,981 It's a lot easier, even as an adult, 580 00:32:30,983 --> 00:32:35,052 for me to have Daniel say... 581 00:32:35,054 --> 00:32:38,388 "I'm really scared. 582 00:32:38,390 --> 00:32:41,425 Do you think maybe you could give me a hug?" 583 00:32:41,427 --> 00:32:42,893 You know? 584 00:32:42,895 --> 00:32:45,395 That would be hard for me to say, "I'm really scared. 585 00:32:45,397 --> 00:32:47,297 Do you think you could give me a hug?" 586 00:32:47,299 --> 00:32:50,801 So the difference from the... From here to here, 587 00:32:50,803 --> 00:32:56,406 that doesn't seem very far, but... 588 00:32:56,408 --> 00:33:00,110 It was efficacious, to say the least. 589 00:33:00,112 --> 00:33:03,680 A car ran over the jaw of your cat? 590 00:33:03,682 --> 00:33:05,682 -Mm-hmm. -And what happened? 591 00:33:05,684 --> 00:33:07,951 It was bleeding. 592 00:33:07,953 --> 00:33:09,753 Oh. 593 00:33:09,755 --> 00:33:12,255 They tried and fixed it, 594 00:33:12,257 --> 00:33:15,158 but they fixed it for a half a day, 595 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,327 but then it died. 596 00:33:17,329 --> 00:33:19,997 -But then it died? -Mm-hmm. 597 00:33:19,999 --> 00:33:23,100 Oh, I think that's scary. 598 00:33:23,102 --> 00:33:26,870 All you had to do was see Fred 599 00:33:26,872 --> 00:33:31,008 inhabit Daniel to... 600 00:33:31,010 --> 00:33:32,275 Really kind of figure it out. 601 00:33:32,277 --> 00:33:33,744 I mean, they were symbiotic. 602 00:33:35,179 --> 00:33:37,948 As strange as it is to see a grown man 603 00:33:37,950 --> 00:33:41,885 have a symbiotic relationship with kind of a dingy, you know, 604 00:33:41,887 --> 00:33:45,689 worn-out little sock puppet, he definitely had that. 605 00:33:45,691 --> 00:33:48,792 Would you give me a hug? 606 00:33:48,794 --> 00:33:50,127 Mm-hmm. 607 00:33:50,129 --> 00:33:51,795 Thank you. 608 00:33:51,797 --> 00:33:54,197 'Cause I needed that. 609 00:33:55,566 --> 00:33:58,535 I better go back in the case, Mr. Rogers. 610 00:33:58,537 --> 00:34:00,370 Okay, Daniel. 611 00:34:00,372 --> 00:34:02,139 He's really nice. 612 00:34:02,141 --> 00:34:04,007 You could talk to him. 613 00:34:04,009 --> 00:34:06,143 Okay, Daniel. 614 00:34:10,548 --> 00:34:13,650 Just a minute. I want to show you something. 615 00:34:13,652 --> 00:34:15,385 Okay. 616 00:34:16,721 --> 00:34:18,722 Wonder what. 617 00:34:20,058 --> 00:34:21,224 It's a balloon. 618 00:34:21,226 --> 00:34:22,759 Oh, a balloon. 619 00:34:22,761 --> 00:34:24,661 Could you blow it up for me? 620 00:34:24,663 --> 00:34:26,563 Surely. 621 00:34:30,334 --> 00:34:32,836 So, this is the first year 622 00:34:32,838 --> 00:34:34,604 of mister Rogers' neighborhood. 623 00:34:34,606 --> 00:34:38,341 Daniel striped tiger is there with lady aberlin, 624 00:34:38,343 --> 00:34:40,844 asking her to blow a balloon up 625 00:34:40,846 --> 00:34:42,446 and then let the air out. 626 00:34:42,448 --> 00:34:45,515 You wonder why this is in there. 627 00:34:49,922 --> 00:34:53,123 Uh, they can't hear. Can you hear on any of these? 628 00:34:54,592 --> 00:34:57,861 There's something I want to ask you. 629 00:34:57,863 --> 00:35:01,198 What does "assassination" mean? 630 00:35:02,533 --> 00:35:04,101 What happened? Do you know? 631 00:35:04,103 --> 00:35:05,769 Somebody said he's been shot. 632 00:35:05,771 --> 00:35:09,573 Let's roll some videotape on this out here, friends. 633 00:35:09,575 --> 00:35:13,376 Ha-have you heard that word a lot today? 634 00:35:13,378 --> 00:35:15,112 Yes. 635 00:35:15,114 --> 00:35:18,782 And I didn't know what it meant. 636 00:35:18,784 --> 00:35:21,718 Well... 637 00:35:21,720 --> 00:35:25,122 It means... 638 00:35:25,124 --> 00:35:28,325 Somebody getting killed... 639 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,796 ...in a... A sort of surprise way. 640 00:35:32,798 --> 00:35:35,165 That's what happened, you know. 641 00:35:35,167 --> 00:35:38,401 That man killed that other man. 642 00:35:38,403 --> 00:35:43,573 A lot of people are sad and scared about it, you know. 643 00:35:43,575 --> 00:35:47,010 I'd rather talk about it some other day. 644 00:35:47,012 --> 00:35:49,246 Whenever you like. 645 00:35:53,351 --> 00:35:55,785 I felt that I had to speak 646 00:35:55,787 --> 00:35:59,656 to the families of our country about grief. 647 00:36:06,430 --> 00:36:10,767 A plea not to leave the children isolated 648 00:36:10,769 --> 00:36:13,270 and at the mercy of their own fantasies 649 00:36:13,272 --> 00:36:15,605 of loss and destruction. 650 00:36:18,943 --> 00:36:23,113 Children have very deep feelings 651 00:36:23,115 --> 00:36:25,515 just the way parents do, 652 00:36:25,517 --> 00:36:29,986 just the way everybody does. 653 00:36:29,988 --> 00:36:36,159 And our striving to understand those feelings 654 00:36:36,161 --> 00:36:39,863 and to better respond to them 655 00:36:39,865 --> 00:36:44,868 is what I feel is a most important task in our world. 656 00:36:50,876 --> 00:36:54,077 He realized that if he really wanted 657 00:36:54,079 --> 00:36:57,747 to communicate, the most important thing 658 00:36:57,749 --> 00:36:59,549 is to listen. 659 00:36:59,551 --> 00:37:01,351 'Cause there's so many people who will just 660 00:37:01,353 --> 00:37:05,855 lump 'em all together and say, "hey, kids, come along. 661 00:37:05,857 --> 00:37:07,724 We'll see the next cartoon." 662 00:37:07,726 --> 00:37:09,826 And they couldn't care less about 663 00:37:09,828 --> 00:37:12,829 what that cartoon is saying to the child 664 00:37:12,831 --> 00:37:15,565 about such things as human dignity. 665 00:37:27,379 --> 00:37:28,678 Remember what was happening 666 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,847 for children's television. 667 00:37:30,849 --> 00:37:32,515 It was speeding up. 668 00:37:32,517 --> 00:37:35,852 Fred was pretty radical in television for that day 669 00:37:35,854 --> 00:37:37,854 in that he used time 670 00:37:37,856 --> 00:37:39,422 totally differently. 671 00:37:45,463 --> 00:37:48,932 To Fred, silence 672 00:37:48,934 --> 00:37:50,867 was his delight. 673 00:38:04,982 --> 00:38:08,051 Fred took an egg timer and said, 674 00:38:08,053 --> 00:38:10,220 "do you want to know how long a minute is? 675 00:38:10,222 --> 00:38:11,554 Here. We're going to show you." 676 00:38:14,458 --> 00:38:18,295 And we just sat there for the whole minute. 677 00:38:20,731 --> 00:38:23,900 There's a lot of slow space. 678 00:38:23,902 --> 00:38:25,902 There's no wasted space. 679 00:38:28,106 --> 00:38:30,006 In. 680 00:38:31,843 --> 00:38:33,910 Out. 681 00:38:39,283 --> 00:38:43,086 I think silence is one of the greatest gifts 682 00:38:43,088 --> 00:38:44,988 that we have. 683 00:38:50,094 --> 00:38:52,128 His questions are direct, 684 00:38:52,130 --> 00:38:54,264 simple, short, 685 00:38:54,266 --> 00:38:56,166 and then he waits. 686 00:38:56,168 --> 00:38:59,836 He interviewed me, and he put his face 687 00:38:59,838 --> 00:39:03,206 about three inches away from my face, 688 00:39:03,208 --> 00:39:06,142 says, "it's so nice 689 00:39:06,144 --> 00:39:09,779 to see you and to be with you." 690 00:39:09,781 --> 00:39:13,116 It scared the living daylights out of me. 691 00:39:13,118 --> 00:39:17,654 But I realized this is what children do with adults. 692 00:39:17,656 --> 00:39:19,622 And sometimes after 693 00:39:19,624 --> 00:39:23,293 they answer, he doesn't say anything else. 694 00:39:23,295 --> 00:39:25,528 So they say a little bit more. 695 00:39:25,530 --> 00:39:28,865 It's-it's a... it's a perfect interviewing trick. 696 00:39:31,470 --> 00:39:33,136 Very funny. Very funny. 697 00:39:33,138 --> 00:39:34,471 Very funny. 698 00:39:34,473 --> 00:39:36,005 I'm not falling for it. 699 00:39:36,007 --> 00:39:37,774 Very good. 700 00:39:47,184 --> 00:39:51,488 Handyman negri and officer clemmons, I presume. 701 00:39:51,490 --> 00:39:53,590 Correct as always, your highness. 702 00:39:53,592 --> 00:39:55,525 Could we take a close look 703 00:39:55,527 --> 00:39:57,660 at, uh, your badge here, officer clemmons? 704 00:39:57,662 --> 00:40:01,498 My friends, I think, can read it. 705 00:40:01,500 --> 00:40:04,434 P-o-l-i-c-e. 706 00:40:05,403 --> 00:40:07,103 I have always felt policemen to be 707 00:40:07,105 --> 00:40:09,506 the most dangerous person in the neighborhood. 708 00:40:09,508 --> 00:40:12,342 So, to have me playing a police officer, 709 00:40:12,344 --> 00:40:14,043 I was tremendously hesitant. 710 00:40:14,045 --> 00:40:18,181 But there was something reluctant about Fred to let go. 711 00:40:18,183 --> 00:40:20,750 And I said, "Mr. Rogers, 712 00:40:20,752 --> 00:40:23,853 "i would be very happy to be on your program 713 00:40:23,855 --> 00:40:28,124 as long as it doesn't interfere with my singing." 714 00:40:39,037 --> 00:40:40,770 And he teased me. 715 00:40:40,772 --> 00:40:43,606 He teased me about that for 20 years. 716 00:40:43,608 --> 00:40:45,942 He'd say, "officer clemmons, 717 00:40:45,944 --> 00:40:48,545 "are we interfering with your career? 718 00:40:48,547 --> 00:40:50,580 Are we interfering?" 719 00:40:50,582 --> 00:40:52,415 He was relentless. 720 00:40:52,417 --> 00:40:54,818 But he also told me, he said, 721 00:40:54,820 --> 00:40:57,220 "that was the moment i loved you." 722 00:40:57,222 --> 00:41:01,391 He said, "because you were not going to kiss my ass." 723 00:41:01,393 --> 00:41:04,127 Those are Mr. Rogers' words. 724 00:41:06,932 --> 00:41:09,466 Mm, that feels good. 725 00:41:12,236 --> 00:41:13,736 Oh, there's officer clemmons. 726 00:41:13,738 --> 00:41:15,271 Hi, officer clemmons. Come in. 727 00:41:15,273 --> 00:41:16,473 Hello, Mr. Rogers. How are you? 728 00:41:16,475 --> 00:41:17,841 Come on. Why don't you sit down? 729 00:41:17,843 --> 00:41:19,409 Oh, sure. Just for a moment. 730 00:41:19,411 --> 00:41:21,144 It's so warm, I was just, uh, 731 00:41:21,146 --> 00:41:22,479 putting some water on my feet. 732 00:41:22,481 --> 00:41:23,580 Oh, it sure is. 733 00:41:23,582 --> 00:41:24,848 Would you like to join me? 734 00:41:24,850 --> 00:41:26,316 That looks awfully enjoyable, 735 00:41:26,318 --> 00:41:28,084 but I don't have a towel or anything. 736 00:41:28,086 --> 00:41:29,419 Oh, you share mine. 737 00:41:29,421 --> 00:41:31,187 -Okay. -Sure. 738 00:41:31,189 --> 00:41:33,156 Around the country, they didn't want black people 739 00:41:33,158 --> 00:41:36,659 to come and swim in their swimming pools. 740 00:41:36,661 --> 00:41:40,830 And Fred said, "that is absolutely ridiculous." 741 00:41:40,832 --> 00:41:42,599 Today, trouble under a noon sun. 742 00:41:42,601 --> 00:41:46,102 Negroes and white rabbis marched to a segregated hotel 743 00:41:46,104 --> 00:41:47,604 with these results. 744 00:41:47,606 --> 00:41:49,305 The manager, James Brock, 745 00:41:49,307 --> 00:41:52,108 told them to get off his private property, 746 00:41:52,110 --> 00:41:54,878 tossed, uh, cleaning chemicals inside the pool 747 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,547 in an effort to get the negroes to leave. 748 00:41:58,782 --> 00:42:02,919 My being on the program was a statement for Fred. 749 00:42:03,954 --> 00:42:06,789 Cool water on a hot day. 750 00:42:10,128 --> 00:42:13,196 I think that will is the great 751 00:42:13,198 --> 00:42:18,301 unseen and unacknowledged ingredient in Fred's story. 752 00:42:21,906 --> 00:42:25,708 The level of will that this guy brought 753 00:42:25,710 --> 00:42:28,811 to really almost all phases of his life, 754 00:42:28,813 --> 00:42:30,580 physical and spiritual... 755 00:42:33,350 --> 00:42:38,054 ...there's no better manifestation of that than... 756 00:42:38,056 --> 00:42:39,822 143. 757 00:42:39,824 --> 00:42:41,558 Is that your address here? 758 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:42,659 Oh, no. 759 00:42:42,661 --> 00:42:45,495 It-it means something special. 760 00:42:45,497 --> 00:42:47,564 1-4-3? 761 00:42:47,566 --> 00:42:51,067 Mm-hmm. You see, 762 00:42:51,069 --> 00:42:53,069 "i" is one letter, 763 00:42:53,071 --> 00:42:57,206 and "love"-- l-o-v-e-- is four letters, 764 00:42:57,208 --> 00:43:01,377 and "you"-- y-o-u-- is three letters. 765 00:43:01,379 --> 00:43:05,748 Fred would go to the Pittsburgh athletic club, 766 00:43:05,750 --> 00:43:08,351 and he swam a mile. 767 00:43:08,353 --> 00:43:11,521 He swam at a unhurried 768 00:43:11,523 --> 00:43:15,558 but deliberate and determined pace. 769 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:21,197 And then he got on the scale, 770 00:43:21,199 --> 00:43:26,202 and the needle of the scale jumped to 143. 771 00:43:26,204 --> 00:43:29,038 And he came off it 772 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,641 with kind of a little smile on his face, 773 00:43:31,643 --> 00:43:37,113 and he told me that he had weighed 143 pounds 774 00:43:37,115 --> 00:43:39,716 every day of his life since, like, 775 00:43:39,718 --> 00:43:42,819 the late '50s or early '60s. 776 00:43:47,091 --> 00:43:50,293 Now, I've thought about this a lot. 777 00:43:50,295 --> 00:43:55,565 What, that... that 143-pound thing drives me insane. 778 00:43:55,567 --> 00:43:56,833 Try that. 779 00:43:56,835 --> 00:43:58,635 I can't do that. 780 00:43:58,637 --> 00:44:01,337 In Fred's private numerology, 781 00:44:01,339 --> 00:44:03,306 "i love you" is "1-4-3." 782 00:44:03,308 --> 00:44:08,011 So, when the needle jumps to 143, 783 00:44:08,013 --> 00:44:12,649 there's, like, this confirming quality. 784 00:44:12,651 --> 00:44:14,083 There are so many weird things 785 00:44:14,085 --> 00:44:16,653 that I'm not gonna tell you. 786 00:44:18,422 --> 00:44:20,657 No. 787 00:44:22,027 --> 00:44:24,661 Freddy was like the little rich kid 788 00:44:24,663 --> 00:44:26,596 that lived in the big house. 789 00:44:26,598 --> 00:44:28,197 And we were all the... 790 00:44:28,199 --> 00:44:31,668 The goofball kids that lived across the alley. 791 00:44:31,670 --> 00:44:34,771 We could be ourselves around Fred. 792 00:44:34,773 --> 00:44:36,372 We were crazies. 793 00:44:36,374 --> 00:44:39,776 We all had long hair, and we were always 794 00:44:39,778 --> 00:44:41,878 having fun, we were always making jokes. 795 00:44:51,956 --> 00:44:53,723 Those aren't mine. 796 00:44:53,725 --> 00:44:55,458 Whose are these? 797 00:44:58,630 --> 00:45:01,964 If we ever saw a camera laying around, 798 00:45:01,966 --> 00:45:04,400 we'd grab it, I'd pull my pants down, 799 00:45:04,402 --> 00:45:07,670 I'd take a picture of my ass and put their camera back. 800 00:45:07,672 --> 00:45:11,641 And, like, then it was film, so, like, three weeks later, 801 00:45:11,643 --> 00:45:13,209 you'd go to the fotomat, 802 00:45:13,211 --> 00:45:14,977 and you'd get your pictures back, 803 00:45:14,979 --> 00:45:17,313 and there's aunt Judy, and there's uncle Fred, 804 00:45:17,315 --> 00:45:19,315 and there's some guy's ass, you know. 805 00:45:19,317 --> 00:45:23,052 And one day, Fred brought his camera into the studio, 806 00:45:23,054 --> 00:45:25,054 and he was taking pictures with it. 807 00:45:25,056 --> 00:45:28,725 And we went behind the set, took a picture of my butt 808 00:45:28,727 --> 00:45:30,193 and put his camera back. 809 00:45:30,195 --> 00:45:33,663 He never said anything, and, like, months later-- 810 00:45:33,665 --> 00:45:36,165 I think it was around christmastime-- 811 00:45:36,167 --> 00:45:40,103 he said to somebody, "did you give Nick his present?" 812 00:45:40,105 --> 00:45:42,872 And it was a poster of that picture 813 00:45:42,874 --> 00:45:45,341 of me and my butt. 814 00:45:54,752 --> 00:45:56,419 Thank you very much. 815 00:45:56,421 --> 00:45:57,754 You're welcome. 816 00:45:57,756 --> 00:46:00,623 -Did you make these yourself? -Mm-hmm. 817 00:46:00,625 --> 00:46:04,093 I... I, um... 818 00:46:04,095 --> 00:46:07,396 I thought... I-i thought of x the owl, 819 00:46:07,398 --> 00:46:09,265 so I... so I, um... 820 00:46:09,267 --> 00:46:13,536 I drew him in his house and his little door. 821 00:46:13,538 --> 00:46:17,106 Oh, these are real treasures. 822 00:46:17,108 --> 00:46:19,742 -Thank you very much. -You're welcome. 823 00:46:19,744 --> 00:46:22,578 Would you like to see x the owl? 824 00:46:24,616 --> 00:46:26,482 You're a little happy. 825 00:46:26,484 --> 00:46:28,718 That makes you just a little bit happy, huh? 826 00:46:28,720 --> 00:46:30,787 Oh, hello there. 827 00:46:32,824 --> 00:46:34,557 Hello, everybody. 828 00:46:34,559 --> 00:46:35,892 Hi. 829 00:46:35,894 --> 00:46:37,760 I'm x the owl. 830 00:46:37,762 --> 00:46:40,196 I hear you drew a picture of me. 831 00:46:41,832 --> 00:46:43,566 This is a book 832 00:46:43,568 --> 00:46:46,903 on all of the different tapes that we have. 833 00:46:46,905 --> 00:46:49,038 Here are the tapes. Here. 834 00:46:50,073 --> 00:46:52,175 At that point, he thought 835 00:46:52,177 --> 00:46:54,911 he had done enough programs 836 00:46:54,913 --> 00:46:56,746 that they could be repeated. 837 00:46:56,748 --> 00:47:00,116 Those are all different visits... 838 00:47:00,118 --> 00:47:03,419 Television visits that we have on tape. 839 00:47:03,421 --> 00:47:06,155 He was writing, he was hosting, 840 00:47:06,157 --> 00:47:08,090 he was singing, he was composing. 841 00:47:08,092 --> 00:47:09,692 And it took a lot out of him. 842 00:47:09,694 --> 00:47:11,360 I think he wanted a breather. 843 00:47:11,362 --> 00:47:15,965 Well, next week, we'll start to show all of these visits 844 00:47:15,967 --> 00:47:19,101 so everybody can see them the whole way through. 845 00:47:19,103 --> 00:47:20,203 Well, I'll look forward to that. 846 00:47:20,205 --> 00:47:22,305 Let's take a look at this one. 847 00:47:22,307 --> 00:47:25,374 When you think about all of those episodes, 848 00:47:25,376 --> 00:47:28,444 there's only so many stories you can tell, right? 849 00:47:28,446 --> 00:47:31,314 What's in the future for Fred Rogers? 850 00:47:31,316 --> 00:47:34,884 I understand that you are ceasing production this spring 851 00:47:34,886 --> 00:47:36,452 of the neighborhood shows. 852 00:47:36,454 --> 00:47:39,288 Well, it's going to give us time to make some things 853 00:47:39,290 --> 00:47:41,724 that I've wanted to do for a long time. 854 00:48:00,010 --> 00:48:02,378 -Hi, Katie. -Hi, Fred. 855 00:48:03,547 --> 00:48:07,350 And, John, wait till you see this quilt. 856 00:48:07,352 --> 00:48:11,153 He wanted to do some prime-time stuff 857 00:48:11,155 --> 00:48:14,390 for adults, and so he got funding to do a show 858 00:48:14,392 --> 00:48:16,759 called old friends... New friends. 859 00:48:16,761 --> 00:48:20,062 I wonder what it is that makes one person 860 00:48:20,064 --> 00:48:22,365 push on in the face of difficulty 861 00:48:22,367 --> 00:48:26,135 and makes someone else crumble in helplessness. 862 00:48:27,170 --> 00:48:28,871 What does tomorrow feel like? 863 00:48:28,873 --> 00:48:30,840 That big. I feel... 864 00:48:30,842 --> 00:48:32,341 I feel that big. 865 00:48:32,343 --> 00:48:34,710 There's no feeling for tomorrow. 866 00:48:34,712 --> 00:48:36,913 Feeling is dead for me in here. 867 00:48:38,282 --> 00:48:41,684 He was incredibly open. 868 00:48:41,686 --> 00:48:44,120 He was scarily open. 869 00:48:46,456 --> 00:48:48,457 He wanted to speak to adults. 870 00:48:48,459 --> 00:48:50,459 He kind of put the puppets away. 871 00:48:50,461 --> 00:48:53,296 But have you watched some of these? 872 00:48:54,298 --> 00:48:57,033 The feeling that... 873 00:48:57,035 --> 00:49:01,704 This instrument is a place, 874 00:49:01,706 --> 00:49:05,942 that it is a country, 875 00:49:05,944 --> 00:49:10,046 that it's somewhere that you go 876 00:49:10,048 --> 00:49:13,015 to say something. 877 00:49:17,087 --> 00:49:18,921 What... what does this 878 00:49:18,923 --> 00:49:21,023 have to do with our world? 879 00:49:22,426 --> 00:49:25,995 I don't know any store that's like this. 880 00:49:25,997 --> 00:49:29,565 Any television program that's like this. 881 00:49:29,567 --> 00:49:31,534 A flower is like this. 882 00:49:32,669 --> 00:49:34,737 A child is like this. 883 00:49:34,739 --> 00:49:37,773 Nobody but Fred would have thought 884 00:49:37,775 --> 00:49:40,176 of doing that for adults. 885 00:49:40,178 --> 00:49:42,244 Take number 19. 886 00:49:42,246 --> 00:49:45,081 Thank you for your poems and your thoughts 887 00:49:45,083 --> 00:49:48,117 about loving poetry and music. 888 00:49:48,119 --> 00:49:51,420 You really inspired us to make this program. 889 00:49:51,422 --> 00:49:54,190 I'll be with you next time. 890 00:49:54,192 --> 00:49:56,325 But he wasn't making 891 00:49:56,327 --> 00:49:58,260 the kind of connections with adults on television 892 00:49:58,262 --> 00:50:00,496 that he thought he might be able to make. 893 00:50:04,534 --> 00:50:07,269 I remember opening the paper 894 00:50:07,271 --> 00:50:09,438 and reading about a child 895 00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,441 jumping off a roof with a towel around his neck 896 00:50:12,443 --> 00:50:15,077 because he was playing superman. 897 00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,715 And there had been a lot of stories like that. 898 00:50:19,717 --> 00:50:22,952 Some children died because of the injuries. 899 00:50:22,954 --> 00:50:24,387 I read it to Fred. 900 00:50:24,389 --> 00:50:27,023 It hit him, because he thought he had covered 901 00:50:27,025 --> 00:50:30,960 all that there was to say in child development, 902 00:50:30,962 --> 00:50:33,195 but this was new. 903 00:50:33,197 --> 00:50:35,464 Fred didn't become angry a lot, 904 00:50:35,466 --> 00:50:38,401 but he just became so angry about the fact 905 00:50:38,403 --> 00:50:40,970 that people would mislead a small child. 906 00:50:40,972 --> 00:50:44,573 And angry that it was his medium 907 00:50:44,575 --> 00:50:46,308 that was doing this. 908 00:50:51,648 --> 00:50:52,782 Yeah, superman. 909 00:50:55,752 --> 00:50:59,321 I am tired of hearing people who have long ago 910 00:50:59,323 --> 00:51:02,658 set aside the concerns of childhood, 911 00:51:02,660 --> 00:51:06,395 telling everybody what children really need. 912 00:51:06,397 --> 00:51:09,065 I'll tell you what children need. 913 00:51:10,333 --> 00:51:13,736 They need adults who will protect them 914 00:51:13,738 --> 00:51:17,940 from the ever-ready molders of their world. 915 00:51:20,611 --> 00:51:23,512 That was the moment Fred said, 916 00:51:23,514 --> 00:51:26,382 "i wonder if we could do a week on superheroes, 917 00:51:26,384 --> 00:51:30,152 talking about the pretend-ness of it." 918 00:51:31,021 --> 00:51:32,588 Very quickly, 919 00:51:32,590 --> 00:51:36,592 we came back with the show. 920 00:51:43,767 --> 00:51:44,700 Mm-hmm. 921 00:51:44,702 --> 00:51:46,402 Uh, careful, Ana. 922 00:51:46,404 --> 00:51:48,437 -I don't want you to... -I think I'm flying. 923 00:51:48,439 --> 00:51:50,973 -I am! I'm flying! -No, you're falling! 924 00:51:50,975 --> 00:51:52,908 What is going on here? 925 00:51:52,910 --> 00:51:55,811 Oh, Ana was trying to fly. 926 00:51:55,813 --> 00:51:57,880 I was using my super-skirt, 927 00:51:57,882 --> 00:51:59,548 and I was going through the air. 928 00:51:59,550 --> 00:52:02,952 Yes, but you were going down, and you might have gotten hurt. 929 00:52:02,954 --> 00:52:04,420 That's right, Ana. 930 00:52:04,422 --> 00:52:06,589 You have to be really careful 931 00:52:06,591 --> 00:52:08,491 with super-things. 932 00:52:08,493 --> 00:52:12,561 He was cool with every kid. 933 00:52:12,563 --> 00:52:15,397 That's the whole thing. I mean, there were little... 934 00:52:15,399 --> 00:52:17,299 Kids that were... They were little bastards. 935 00:52:17,301 --> 00:52:20,336 They were just rowdy, and Fred never said, 936 00:52:20,338 --> 00:52:22,605 "this kid's a dick. Get him out of here." 937 00:52:22,607 --> 00:52:25,074 You know, I mean, i sure would've. 938 00:52:25,076 --> 00:52:27,610 Fred used to say 939 00:52:27,612 --> 00:52:30,646 that the outside world of children's lives 940 00:52:30,648 --> 00:52:33,349 has changed, but their insides haven't. 941 00:52:33,351 --> 00:52:37,086 He realized that his work wasn't through. 942 00:52:37,088 --> 00:52:39,355 I'm Fred Rogers, and I'd like to talk 943 00:52:39,357 --> 00:52:41,157 with you about make-believe. 944 00:52:41,159 --> 00:52:43,626 When it goes to the next level 945 00:52:43,628 --> 00:52:45,294 is in the 1980s when he goes 946 00:52:45,296 --> 00:52:46,428 to the theme weeks. 947 00:52:46,430 --> 00:52:48,030 I mean, to... to do 948 00:52:48,032 --> 00:52:49,298 a week on death... 949 00:52:49,300 --> 00:52:51,033 "Oh, hi, kids. 950 00:52:51,035 --> 00:52:54,670 We're gonna do a week on death." 951 00:52:54,672 --> 00:52:55,938 On divorce. 952 00:52:55,940 --> 00:52:58,374 Some people get married, and after a while, 953 00:52:58,376 --> 00:53:00,376 they're so unhappy with each other 954 00:53:00,378 --> 00:53:03,112 that they don't want to be married anymore. 955 00:53:03,114 --> 00:53:05,447 On children getting lost. 956 00:53:05,449 --> 00:53:08,284 Man, that's guts. 957 00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,988 Help! Help, help! 958 00:53:12,990 --> 00:53:14,657 Help, please, everybody! 959 00:53:24,901 --> 00:53:29,405 There's a piece of paper that I accidentally ran into. 960 00:53:31,875 --> 00:53:34,910 And he typed in this little sheet of paper 961 00:53:34,912 --> 00:53:38,314 about how he couldn't do it, 962 00:53:38,316 --> 00:53:40,716 that he didn't think he was up to the task. 963 00:53:41,751 --> 00:53:43,719 "Am I kidding myself 964 00:53:43,721 --> 00:53:46,655 "that I'm able to write a script again? 965 00:53:46,657 --> 00:53:49,658 "Am I really just whistling Dixie? 966 00:53:49,660 --> 00:53:51,660 "I wonder. 967 00:53:51,662 --> 00:53:57,032 "If I don't get down to it, I'll never really know. 968 00:53:57,034 --> 00:53:59,435 "Why don't I trust myself? 969 00:53:59,437 --> 00:54:02,171 "After all these years, 970 00:54:02,173 --> 00:54:06,709 "it's just as bad as ever. 971 00:54:06,711 --> 00:54:10,412 "The hour cometh, and now is when I've got to do it. 972 00:54:10,414 --> 00:54:14,016 "Get to it, Fred. Get to it. 973 00:54:14,018 --> 00:54:18,454 "But don't let anybody ever tell anybody else 974 00:54:18,456 --> 00:54:20,289 "that it was easy. 975 00:54:20,291 --> 00:54:22,024 It wasn't." 976 00:54:27,964 --> 00:54:30,733 The time that I was with him 977 00:54:30,735 --> 00:54:34,069 going on a New York City subway, all the children 978 00:54:34,071 --> 00:54:35,971 in that crowded subway car 979 00:54:35,973 --> 00:54:39,041 began singing the neighborhood song. 980 00:54:51,722 --> 00:54:54,890 He might as well have been an animated figure 981 00:54:54,892 --> 00:54:57,126 stepped into real life. 982 00:54:57,128 --> 00:54:58,961 Could I try that? 983 00:54:59,964 --> 00:55:01,063 I brought my skates with me. 984 00:55:01,065 --> 00:55:02,064 I can try. 985 00:55:02,066 --> 00:55:04,566 Whoa. 986 00:55:08,906 --> 00:55:10,906 -What else do you like to do? -Moonwalk. 987 00:55:10,908 --> 00:55:14,243 - Moonwalk? - You got it. Yeah. 988 00:55:14,245 --> 00:55:15,811 People thought he was 989 00:55:15,813 --> 00:55:18,314 such an important American figure, 990 00:55:18,316 --> 00:55:20,015 they wanted him to speak out 991 00:55:20,017 --> 00:55:21,784 on the issues of the day. 992 00:55:21,786 --> 00:55:24,420 And so Fred grew pretty comfortably 993 00:55:24,422 --> 00:55:25,821 into more of a public role. 994 00:55:25,823 --> 00:55:27,956 You know, the earth is a name 995 00:55:27,958 --> 00:55:30,926 for the place where everybody lives. 996 00:55:30,928 --> 00:55:32,361 And the moon 997 00:55:32,363 --> 00:55:34,530 is the name for the place 998 00:55:34,532 --> 00:55:36,632 where the astronauts go. 999 00:55:36,634 --> 00:55:39,301 Every time we went through 1000 00:55:39,303 --> 00:55:41,503 a national or international tragedy, 1001 00:55:41,505 --> 00:55:44,440 my impulse was always to call Fred 1002 00:55:44,442 --> 00:55:45,708 and put him on the radio. 1003 00:55:45,710 --> 00:55:47,776 What shall we tell our children 1004 00:55:47,778 --> 00:55:50,446 about the things that are in the news 1005 00:55:50,448 --> 00:55:52,448 that seem so difficult, so tragic? 1006 00:55:52,450 --> 00:55:53,949 Pilot Mike Smith, 1007 00:55:53,951 --> 00:55:56,719 followed by christa mcauliffe, teacher in space. 1008 00:55:56,721 --> 00:55:58,387 Christa has been rehearsing 1009 00:55:58,389 --> 00:56:00,389 the lessons she'll teach from space. 1010 00:56:00,391 --> 00:56:01,990 Good morning. 1011 00:56:01,992 --> 00:56:04,626 This is christa mcauliffe, live from the challenger. 1012 00:56:04,628 --> 00:56:06,362 The lessons will be seen 1013 00:56:06,364 --> 00:56:08,130 nationwide on public television. 1014 00:56:08,132 --> 00:56:11,166 Five, four, three... 1015 00:56:11,168 --> 00:56:13,402 Two, one... 1016 00:56:13,404 --> 00:56:14,803 And liftoff! 1017 00:56:14,805 --> 00:56:18,307 Liftoff of the 25th space shuttle mission, 1018 00:56:18,309 --> 00:56:19,808 and it has cleared the tower. 1019 00:56:19,810 --> 00:56:21,543 Challenger, go at throttle up. 1020 00:56:21,545 --> 00:56:23,879 Roger. Go at throttle up. 1021 00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:32,421 God, no! 1022 00:56:36,092 --> 00:56:38,694 How do we put it to children 1023 00:56:38,696 --> 00:56:40,996 so they will understand? 1024 00:56:44,501 --> 00:56:48,337 And part of Fred's answer was always to tell children 1025 00:56:48,339 --> 00:56:51,673 that we, the parents, would take care of them. 1026 00:56:52,942 --> 00:56:55,344 Sometimes I found that a difficult message myself 1027 00:56:55,346 --> 00:56:57,379 as the parent of a young child. 1028 00:56:57,381 --> 00:56:59,081 Sometimes I felt I was lying. 1029 00:56:59,083 --> 00:57:01,016 I knew that there were things in this world 1030 00:57:01,018 --> 00:57:03,118 that I couldn't protect my child from. 1031 00:57:06,089 --> 00:57:08,524 Sometimes we need to struggle 1032 00:57:08,526 --> 00:57:13,462 with a tragedy to feel the gravity of love. 1033 00:57:13,464 --> 00:57:17,766 Love is what keeps us together and afloat. 1034 00:57:30,581 --> 00:57:34,149 You know, it must be tough to be Fred Rogers... 1035 00:57:35,385 --> 00:57:39,588 ...with your mission in mind 1036 00:57:39,590 --> 00:57:41,657 and then to have parodies. 1037 00:58:02,079 --> 00:58:04,580 Eddie Murphy did that 1038 00:58:04,582 --> 00:58:06,415 mister Robinson's neighborhood, 1039 00:58:06,417 --> 00:58:08,617 and I remember meeting him, 1040 00:58:08,619 --> 00:58:10,519 and he just threw his arms around me 1041 00:58:10,521 --> 00:58:12,521 the first time he saw me, 1042 00:58:12,523 --> 00:58:14,423 and he said, "the real Mr. Rogers." 1043 00:58:14,425 --> 00:58:17,793 That's, uh, Mr. Rogers there in the, uh... 1044 00:58:17,795 --> 00:58:19,595 -On the left. -On the left, yeah. 1045 00:58:19,597 --> 00:58:20,963 Uh, now, how do you react to that? 1046 00:58:20,965 --> 00:58:23,131 Well, some of them aren't very funny. 1047 00:58:23,133 --> 00:58:26,134 But I think that, uh... That a lot of them 1048 00:58:26,136 --> 00:58:28,437 are done with real kindness 1049 00:58:28,439 --> 00:58:29,938 -in their hearts. -Mm-hmm. 1050 00:58:29,940 --> 00:58:32,875 I'm moving to a new neighborhood 1051 00:58:32,877 --> 00:58:35,377 where I've made a... A new friend. 1052 00:58:36,780 --> 00:58:39,348 Can you say "hooker"? 1053 00:58:39,350 --> 00:58:41,283 There were some that... 1054 00:58:41,285 --> 00:58:43,785 Were not as kind 1055 00:58:43,787 --> 00:58:49,725 in nature, and if they made fun of the philosophy, 1056 00:58:49,727 --> 00:58:50,726 that was the only thing 1057 00:58:50,728 --> 00:58:53,028 that offended him, I think. 1058 00:58:53,030 --> 00:58:56,632 The battle of the pbs stars. 1059 00:58:56,634 --> 00:59:00,669 The crowd is literally buzzing with excitement 1060 00:59:00,671 --> 00:59:03,205 as Mr. Rogers enters the ring. 1061 00:59:03,207 --> 00:59:04,706 Oh, look out there, Fred! 1062 00:59:04,708 --> 00:59:07,309 Fred had such a great sense of humor, 1063 00:59:07,311 --> 00:59:08,977 for the most part. 1064 00:59:08,979 --> 00:59:11,213 There's child, obviously in shape 1065 00:59:11,215 --> 00:59:13,482 -and ready for this fight. -Thank you. 1066 00:59:13,484 --> 00:59:14,983 But what about Rogers? 1067 00:59:14,985 --> 00:59:19,354 Experts have cast aspersions on his manhood itself. 1068 00:59:19,356 --> 00:59:22,024 Fred would watch them with the rest of us, 1069 00:59:22,026 --> 00:59:25,527 and everybody would be laughing, and I just wonder... 1070 00:59:25,529 --> 00:59:28,730 If a little bit of fat Freddy came back. 1071 00:59:30,033 --> 00:59:32,501 Just before getting to adolescence, 1072 00:59:32,503 --> 00:59:36,838 he didn't have an easy time making friends, I don't think. 1073 00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:40,609 He got a good taste of what bullying was all about. 1074 00:59:41,544 --> 00:59:43,211 I've often wondered, 1075 00:59:43,213 --> 00:59:46,181 if there hadn't been a fat Freddy, 1076 00:59:46,183 --> 00:59:48,550 would there have been a Mr. Rogers? 1077 00:59:48,552 --> 00:59:49,851 You can feel the momentum 1078 00:59:49,853 --> 00:59:51,853 actually swinging toward child. 1079 00:59:51,855 --> 00:59:54,189 And what just happened there? 1080 00:59:54,191 --> 00:59:55,557 He grabbed a puppet! 1081 00:59:55,559 --> 00:59:57,125 Oh, look at this! 1082 00:59:57,127 --> 01:00:00,362 He's hitting child with the lovable king Friday! 1083 01:00:00,364 --> 01:00:02,364 And the French chef is down. 1084 01:00:11,208 --> 01:00:12,407 A laughter record. 1085 01:00:12,409 --> 01:00:16,044 Used to play one like this when I was a young boy. 1086 01:00:16,046 --> 01:00:18,313 You see, I felt that the adults around me 1087 01:00:18,315 --> 01:00:21,617 were pressuring me to be what I couldn't be yet. 1088 01:00:21,619 --> 01:00:24,386 "Act like a grown-up," I'd hear them say. 1089 01:00:24,388 --> 01:00:27,756 Well, I was afraid they'd laugh at me when I tried. 1090 01:00:27,758 --> 01:00:29,891 So I found a record like this, 1091 01:00:29,893 --> 01:00:32,060 and I could make the laughs start 1092 01:00:32,062 --> 01:00:36,064 and make them stop whenever I wanted to. 1093 01:00:36,066 --> 01:00:38,734 For someone who hated to be laughed at, 1094 01:00:38,736 --> 01:00:41,737 it was a good feeling to be in charge 1095 01:00:41,739 --> 01:00:44,139 of at least this laughter. 1096 01:00:45,842 --> 01:00:52,648 I think that those who would try 1097 01:00:52,650 --> 01:00:56,585 to make you feel less than who you are... 1098 01:00:56,587 --> 01:00:58,320 I think that's the greatest evil. 1099 01:01:15,272 --> 01:01:16,938 There was a wonderful quote from Fred. 1100 01:01:16,940 --> 01:01:19,174 Oh, that's hard. 1101 01:01:19,176 --> 01:01:21,376 The most important learning-- 1102 01:01:21,378 --> 01:01:25,347 it's the ability to accept and expect mistakes 1103 01:01:25,349 --> 01:01:27,649 and deal with the disappointment that they bring. 1104 01:01:27,651 --> 01:01:29,451 Hi, neighbor. 1105 01:01:29,453 --> 01:01:32,854 Had a little trouble with my zipper there. 1106 01:01:32,856 --> 01:01:36,291 I'll get these shoes tied and then... 1107 01:01:36,293 --> 01:01:38,360 Try the zipper again. 1108 01:01:38,362 --> 01:01:41,029 And Fred also understood 1109 01:01:41,031 --> 01:01:44,800 that there's a deeper level. 1110 01:01:44,802 --> 01:01:46,468 You know something, 1111 01:01:46,470 --> 01:01:48,837 -lady aberlin? -What, Daniel? 1112 01:01:48,839 --> 01:01:51,840 I've been wondering about something myself. 1113 01:01:51,842 --> 01:01:53,975 Something about Mr. skunk? 1114 01:01:53,977 --> 01:01:56,311 Something about mistakes. 1115 01:01:56,313 --> 01:01:57,979 What is it? 1116 01:01:57,981 --> 01:02:02,884 I've been wondering if I was a mistake. 1117 01:02:03,986 --> 01:02:05,821 If you were a mistake? 1118 01:02:05,823 --> 01:02:07,889 And I will tell you, 1119 01:02:07,891 --> 01:02:12,661 sitting in the studio listening to that, that day, 1120 01:02:12,663 --> 01:02:14,996 I said to myself, 1121 01:02:14,998 --> 01:02:18,266 "i can't believe Fred had the courage 1122 01:02:18,268 --> 01:02:20,669 to put that into words." 1123 01:02:20,671 --> 01:02:25,841 Sometimes I wonder if I'm too tame. 1124 01:02:57,141 --> 01:02:58,206 You do? 1125 01:03:01,879 --> 01:03:06,314 Lady aberlin is saying to Daniel 1126 01:03:06,316 --> 01:03:08,550 what Fred himself wanted to say, 1127 01:03:08,552 --> 01:03:12,454 not only to his childhood self, but to all children. 1128 01:03:19,730 --> 01:03:21,129 "Okay, then Daniel's going to say, 1129 01:03:21,131 --> 01:03:23,131 'oh, thank you. That helped me a lot.'" 1130 01:03:32,075 --> 01:03:33,575 and I thought to myself, 1131 01:03:33,577 --> 01:03:36,611 "thank you, Fred, for reminding us 1132 01:03:36,613 --> 01:03:41,516 that it's not so easy to quiet a doubt." 1133 01:03:41,518 --> 01:03:44,085 But make it a duet 1134 01:03:44,087 --> 01:03:47,155 so that it's not just your fears, 1135 01:03:47,157 --> 01:03:49,424 but you'll hear my support. 1136 01:04:05,542 --> 01:04:09,678 I think you are just fine 1137 01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:12,514 exactly the way you are. 1138 01:04:12,516 --> 01:04:13,815 The way I look? 1139 01:04:13,817 --> 01:04:15,217 Yes. 1140 01:04:15,219 --> 01:04:16,685 The way I talk? 1141 01:04:16,687 --> 01:04:18,320 Well, yes. 1142 01:04:18,322 --> 01:04:19,988 The way I love? 1143 01:04:19,990 --> 01:04:22,424 Especially that. 1144 01:04:38,308 --> 01:04:40,575 There were black kids watching the show. 1145 01:04:40,577 --> 01:04:44,246 They needed a black figure who would not let them down. 1146 01:04:44,248 --> 01:04:46,314 So, if I came out as gay 1147 01:04:46,316 --> 01:04:48,984 and there was some kind of scandal, 1148 01:04:48,986 --> 01:04:52,020 that would not serve the race. 1149 01:04:52,022 --> 01:04:54,656 I carried that all the time. 1150 01:05:02,399 --> 01:05:05,000 - Really nice, Fran�ois. 1151 01:05:05,002 --> 01:05:07,502 I went to a gay bar downtown called the play pen. 1152 01:05:07,504 --> 01:05:09,704 Oh, god, did I have a lot of fun. 1153 01:05:09,706 --> 01:05:11,573 But somebody, uh, told the 1154 01:05:11,575 --> 01:05:13,608 mister Rogers' neighborhood people about it, 1155 01:05:13,610 --> 01:05:16,444 and he asked me, "did you... Were you downtown at that bar?" 1156 01:05:16,446 --> 01:05:17,679 And I said, "yes." 1157 01:05:17,681 --> 01:05:20,348 He said, "you can't go back there anymore." 1158 01:05:20,350 --> 01:05:22,584 I wanted to show this film to you. 1159 01:05:22,586 --> 01:05:25,253 Okay, on picture picture. 1160 01:05:26,522 --> 01:05:29,357 Here's Mrs. clemmons at home. 1161 01:05:29,359 --> 01:05:31,860 In '68, I got married. 1162 01:05:31,862 --> 01:05:33,695 I'm not stupid. 1163 01:05:33,697 --> 01:05:36,598 There's the portrait of the king and queen. 1164 01:05:39,735 --> 01:05:41,102 If I came out publicly, he said, 1165 01:05:41,104 --> 01:05:42,537 "you cannot be on the show anymore." 1166 01:05:42,539 --> 01:05:46,274 The sponsors, Johnson & Johnson, and sears, 1167 01:05:46,276 --> 01:05:50,645 they are not going to support an openly gay man. 1168 01:05:50,647 --> 01:05:55,884 Fred was not prepared to lose that market. 1169 01:05:55,886 --> 01:05:59,788 My marriage failed miserably. 1170 01:05:59,790 --> 01:06:02,891 And I discovered you can't pray it away. 1171 01:06:04,661 --> 01:06:07,829 Eventually, Fred came around to it. 1172 01:06:07,831 --> 01:06:09,464 I think Fran�ois 1173 01:06:09,466 --> 01:06:13,501 just came a little too soon, maybe, you know? 1174 01:06:15,771 --> 01:06:18,406 Oh, yes. Oh, my, yes. Heavens. 1175 01:06:18,408 --> 01:06:21,443 Um... 1176 01:06:21,445 --> 01:06:24,279 You gotta forgive me for this, but I have to ask you something 1177 01:06:24,281 --> 01:06:26,915 that may sound impertinent, and I don't mean for it to 1178 01:06:26,917 --> 01:06:28,750 for a second. 1179 01:06:28,752 --> 01:06:30,518 Are-are... 1180 01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:32,287 Are you square? 1181 01:06:32,289 --> 01:06:34,756 I mean, are you a straight guy? I mean, you're just... 1182 01:06:34,758 --> 01:06:36,491 Are you really the way you are? 1183 01:06:36,493 --> 01:06:38,760 First of all, no, he's not gay. 1184 01:06:38,762 --> 01:06:41,363 I tell everyone who asks me, "no, he's not gay." 1185 01:06:41,365 --> 01:06:43,198 But the, uh... The other part is-- 1186 01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:45,767 I spent enough time with him that if he had the... 1187 01:06:45,769 --> 01:06:50,338 If there was a gay vibe, i would've picked it up. 1188 01:06:50,340 --> 01:06:53,842 Nope, not as far as I know. 1189 01:06:53,844 --> 01:06:57,278 I mean, I think that anybody who looked at Fred 1190 01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:01,683 looked at somebody that they couldn't compare 1191 01:07:01,685 --> 01:07:03,284 with anybody else. 1192 01:07:03,286 --> 01:07:05,220 There's something inside you 1193 01:07:05,222 --> 01:07:07,022 that hasn't been lost. 1194 01:07:07,024 --> 01:07:09,024 Thank you, Daniel. 1195 01:07:09,026 --> 01:07:10,792 -Your childhood. -Mm-hmm. 1196 01:07:10,794 --> 01:07:12,127 Okay. 1197 01:07:12,129 --> 01:07:13,294 I like him. 1198 01:07:13,296 --> 01:07:15,063 I know. 1199 01:07:15,065 --> 01:07:16,297 -Bye. -Bye-bye. Okay. 1200 01:07:16,299 --> 01:07:17,966 That was one of the things 1201 01:07:17,968 --> 01:07:19,868 that I responded to. 1202 01:07:19,870 --> 01:07:21,803 That's terrific. 1203 01:07:21,805 --> 01:07:23,304 Wow. 1204 01:07:23,306 --> 01:07:27,308 I definitely saw another way of... of being a man. 1205 01:07:28,811 --> 01:07:31,413 I'm sure you've heard all these rumors 1206 01:07:31,415 --> 01:07:35,350 about Fred being a Navy seal and killing people. 1207 01:07:35,352 --> 01:07:37,819 Was Fred a Navy seal? 1208 01:07:37,821 --> 01:07:39,687 Did Fred have tattoos? 1209 01:07:39,689 --> 01:07:41,322 And that, you know, he wore... 1210 01:07:41,324 --> 01:07:42,924 He wore the sweater 1211 01:07:42,926 --> 01:07:45,160 to cover the tattoos. 1212 01:07:45,162 --> 01:07:49,597 Fred was born a rich kid. 1213 01:07:49,599 --> 01:07:52,267 He didn't know how to use a screwdriver, 1214 01:07:52,269 --> 01:07:54,369 let alone kill a bunch of people. 1215 01:07:54,371 --> 01:07:57,405 That, to me, is just, like, 1216 01:07:57,407 --> 01:08:01,443 a classic example of people looking at Fred 1217 01:08:01,445 --> 01:08:04,112 in all his eccentricity and singularity, 1218 01:08:04,114 --> 01:08:07,916 and trying to basically say, "well, that can't be. 1219 01:08:07,918 --> 01:08:10,618 He has to be this way." 1220 01:08:10,620 --> 01:08:12,954 The universal question about Fred is-- 1221 01:08:12,956 --> 01:08:15,924 was he that way in real life? 1222 01:08:15,926 --> 01:08:17,592 And the answer is yes. 1223 01:08:19,361 --> 01:08:21,863 Fran�ois clemmons, hi. Welcome. 1224 01:08:21,865 --> 01:08:23,198 Thank you. How you doing? 1225 01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:24,732 -I'm fine. How are you today? -Fine. 1226 01:08:24,734 --> 01:08:26,768 My feet were tired, so I thought I'd just 1227 01:08:26,770 --> 01:08:28,803 soak them for a while in this water. 1228 01:08:28,805 --> 01:08:31,239 -Does it make 'em feel better? -It does. 1229 01:08:31,241 --> 01:08:32,774 -Would you like to try? -Sure. 1230 01:08:32,776 --> 01:08:34,542 On the show, 1231 01:08:34,544 --> 01:08:37,645 he would say, "i love you just the way you are." 1232 01:08:37,647 --> 01:08:39,214 One day, I said, 1233 01:08:39,216 --> 01:08:42,550 "Fred, were you talking to me?" 1234 01:08:42,552 --> 01:08:44,552 And he looked at me, and he said, 1235 01:08:44,554 --> 01:08:48,323 "yes, I've been talking to you for two years, 1236 01:08:48,325 --> 01:08:51,759 and you finally heard me today." 1237 01:08:51,761 --> 01:08:53,828 And I just collapsed into his arms. 1238 01:08:53,830 --> 01:08:56,564 I was... I started crying. I... 1239 01:08:56,566 --> 01:08:58,933 That's when I knew that I loved him. 1240 01:09:07,978 --> 01:09:10,011 No man had ever told me 1241 01:09:10,013 --> 01:09:11,412 that he loved me like that. 1242 01:09:11,414 --> 01:09:13,148 I needed to hear it all my life. 1243 01:09:13,150 --> 01:09:14,415 My dad never told me. 1244 01:09:14,417 --> 01:09:17,452 My step-father never told me. 1245 01:09:17,454 --> 01:09:22,357 So, from then on, he became my surrogate father. 1246 01:09:23,459 --> 01:09:25,960 I'm so proud of you, Fran�ois. 1247 01:09:25,962 --> 01:09:27,428 Oh, thank you, Fred. 1248 01:09:27,430 --> 01:09:29,197 -Thank you. -May I help you here? 1249 01:09:29,199 --> 01:09:30,698 Thank you. 1250 01:09:30,700 --> 01:09:33,301 The people who have had 1251 01:09:33,303 --> 01:09:37,472 a lot of struggle in their lives, 1252 01:09:37,474 --> 01:09:40,375 those are the people who really impress me. 1253 01:09:44,613 --> 01:09:47,348 There was an interview with a little boy 1254 01:09:47,350 --> 01:09:49,450 by the name of Jeff erlanger. 1255 01:09:49,452 --> 01:09:53,821 We wrote because Jeff was going to have a spinal fusion 1256 01:09:53,823 --> 01:09:56,791 and be in a... What they call a halo, uh... 1257 01:09:56,793 --> 01:09:59,527 -Cast. A halo cast. -Metal rim, and then cast 1258 01:09:59,529 --> 01:10:02,297 on his shoulders and bolted all together and... 1259 01:10:02,299 --> 01:10:03,798 -All the way down his trunk. -Yeah. 1260 01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:05,700 We weren't sure... -Howard: He may not have 1261 01:10:05,702 --> 01:10:08,136 survived the surgery, and so we said, you know, 1262 01:10:08,138 --> 01:10:09,704 "what would you like to do? 1263 01:10:09,706 --> 01:10:12,307 "Uh, this is going to be a really big task for you, 1264 01:10:12,309 --> 01:10:14,342 "and so we want to kick it off with something 1265 01:10:14,344 --> 01:10:16,177 that would be really special." 1266 01:10:16,179 --> 01:10:18,046 Mr. Rogers? 1267 01:10:18,048 --> 01:10:20,181 Hey, Jeff. 1268 01:10:20,183 --> 01:10:22,483 -I'm glad to see you. -Hi. 1269 01:10:22,485 --> 01:10:25,220 Thank you very much for coming by. 1270 01:10:25,222 --> 01:10:28,323 Can you tell my friends what it is 1271 01:10:28,325 --> 01:10:30,825 that made you need this wheelchair? 1272 01:10:30,827 --> 01:10:31,926 Sure. 1273 01:10:31,928 --> 01:10:37,665 Well, when I was about seven months old, 1274 01:10:37,667 --> 01:10:40,235 I had, um... 1275 01:10:40,237 --> 01:10:43,104 I had a tumor, 1276 01:10:43,106 --> 01:10:45,506 and it broke the nerves 1277 01:10:45,508 --> 01:10:48,176 to tell my hands and legs what to do. 1278 01:10:48,178 --> 01:10:50,245 I see. 1279 01:10:51,347 --> 01:10:54,549 And I got a wheelchair 1280 01:10:54,551 --> 01:10:56,517 when I was four years old. 1281 01:10:56,519 --> 01:10:58,453 -That was your first one? -Mm-hmm. 1282 01:10:58,455 --> 01:11:00,188 -When you were four. -Uh-huh. 1283 01:11:00,190 --> 01:11:02,924 He told Jeff before they started that they would 1284 01:11:02,926 --> 01:11:04,692 have a chat and then sing a song together. 1285 01:11:04,694 --> 01:11:06,361 I think he said, "we might sing a song." 1286 01:11:06,363 --> 01:11:07,629 -I remember. -Yeah. 1287 01:11:07,631 --> 01:11:09,530 'Cause, I mean, i was sort of surprised. 1288 01:11:09,532 --> 01:11:11,399 "What? He's going to start singing a song?" 1289 01:11:11,401 --> 01:11:12,800 Well, you know, this is totally... 1290 01:11:12,802 --> 01:11:14,135 Not even what song. 1291 01:12:30,447 --> 01:12:32,947 -And it is you I like, Jeff. -Thanks. 1292 01:12:32,949 --> 01:12:35,316 And there must be times when you do feel blue. 1293 01:12:35,318 --> 01:12:36,684 Uh-huh. 1294 01:12:36,686 --> 01:12:39,320 I'm not feeling blue right now, though. 1295 01:12:39,322 --> 01:12:40,688 - Me, neither. 1296 01:12:41,790 --> 01:12:43,958 I'm so glad that you came today. 1297 01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:45,226 Thanks. 1298 01:12:45,228 --> 01:12:46,461 I remember asking one of the... 1299 01:12:46,463 --> 01:12:48,196 One of the staff people that was there, 1300 01:12:48,198 --> 01:12:49,831 "well, you know, what do you think? 1301 01:12:49,833 --> 01:12:50,832 Did it go okay?" 1302 01:12:50,834 --> 01:12:52,700 "Oh, this is good. This is good." 1303 01:12:53,635 --> 01:12:55,169 He had his surgery. 1304 01:12:55,171 --> 01:12:56,804 He survived. 1305 01:12:56,806 --> 01:13:01,376 Certainly, Mr. Rogers had an impact on who Jeff became. 1306 01:13:01,378 --> 01:13:03,644 His sense of self. 1307 01:13:03,646 --> 01:13:07,915 You obviously have a power now. 1308 01:13:07,917 --> 01:13:09,584 I mean, that you wouldn't have had 1309 01:13:09,586 --> 01:13:12,120 when you first started the show. 1310 01:13:15,324 --> 01:13:17,525 Well, it might sound very ingenuous, 1311 01:13:17,527 --> 01:13:19,994 but I don't feel that. 1312 01:13:22,664 --> 01:13:27,068 Behold. These shall be your minions. 1313 01:13:27,070 --> 01:13:29,670 I would hope that anybody 1314 01:13:29,672 --> 01:13:32,673 who sets himself or herself out 1315 01:13:32,675 --> 01:13:36,911 to produce mass programming for children... 1316 01:13:38,414 --> 01:13:41,349 ...could have the kind of respect 1317 01:13:41,351 --> 01:13:43,117 of childhood that I have. 1318 01:13:46,855 --> 01:13:51,759 Because it's not all clowns and balloons. 1319 01:14:00,969 --> 01:14:03,371 What do you mean, you don't agree with me?! 1320 01:14:06,442 --> 01:14:09,777 Some television programs are loud and scary, 1321 01:14:09,779 --> 01:14:12,980 with people shooting and hitting other people. 1322 01:14:12,982 --> 01:14:16,384 You know, you can do something about that. 1323 01:14:16,386 --> 01:14:21,122 When you see scary television, you can turn it off. 1324 01:14:23,225 --> 01:14:25,259 We need to help our children 1325 01:14:25,261 --> 01:14:27,895 become more and more aware 1326 01:14:27,897 --> 01:14:31,732 that what is essential in life 1327 01:14:31,734 --> 01:14:35,436 is invisible to the eye. 1328 01:14:35,438 --> 01:14:37,238 Thank you. 1329 01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:39,674 Thank you very much. 1330 01:14:39,676 --> 01:14:42,410 As he got older, it was 1331 01:14:42,412 --> 01:14:46,314 more important for him to be strong in his beliefs. 1332 01:14:46,316 --> 01:14:49,584 Maybe that was how he was getting his anger out. 1333 01:14:49,586 --> 01:14:51,452 His anger that people 1334 01:14:51,454 --> 01:14:52,620 didn't take him seriously. 1335 01:14:52,622 --> 01:14:53,921 They didn't get him. 1336 01:14:53,923 --> 01:14:56,691 They didn't get the depth of the show. 1337 01:14:59,661 --> 01:15:03,297 He started out being Daniel, 1338 01:15:03,299 --> 01:15:06,834 soft and quiet and shy; 1339 01:15:06,836 --> 01:15:10,505 developed into king Friday. 1340 01:15:10,507 --> 01:15:12,540 That is not correct. 1341 01:15:12,542 --> 01:15:15,610 Now do it again and do it perfectly. 1342 01:15:15,612 --> 01:15:16,944 Wasn't king Friday 1343 01:15:16,946 --> 01:15:19,146 a wonderful insight into his character? 1344 01:15:19,148 --> 01:15:20,348 His determination 1345 01:15:20,350 --> 01:15:22,049 and his ambitions. 1346 01:15:22,051 --> 01:15:27,188 As a king, I must see that the world runs smoothly. 1347 01:15:27,190 --> 01:15:28,789 Farewell to you both. 1348 01:15:28,791 --> 01:15:30,625 That gruffness was his way 1349 01:15:30,627 --> 01:15:33,794 of getting what he wanted across. 1350 01:15:33,796 --> 01:15:37,298 Fred Rogers wanted something very badly 1351 01:15:37,300 --> 01:15:40,134 and would do what he felt was necessary 1352 01:15:40,136 --> 01:15:41,869 in order to get it. 1353 01:15:46,508 --> 01:15:49,744 Let's take the gauntlet 1354 01:15:49,746 --> 01:15:52,713 and make goodness attractive 1355 01:15:52,715 --> 01:15:56,050 in this so-called next millennium. 1356 01:15:57,319 --> 01:15:59,620 That's the real... 1357 01:16:01,490 --> 01:16:04,825 That's the real job that we have. 1358 01:16:04,827 --> 01:16:07,695 I'm not talking about pollyanna-ish kind of stuff. 1359 01:16:07,697 --> 01:16:11,065 I'm talking about down-to-earth, 1360 01:16:11,067 --> 01:16:13,901 actual goodness. 1361 01:16:13,903 --> 01:16:16,837 People caring for each other 1362 01:16:16,839 --> 01:16:19,840 in a myriad of ways, 1363 01:16:19,842 --> 01:16:22,843 rather than people knocking each other off all the time. 1364 01:16:22,845 --> 01:16:26,681 I mean, I don't find that funny at all. 1365 01:16:27,783 --> 01:16:30,184 What changes the world? 1366 01:16:30,186 --> 01:16:35,423 The only thing that ever really changes the world 1367 01:16:35,425 --> 01:16:38,559 is when somebody gets the idea 1368 01:16:38,561 --> 01:16:42,396 that love can abound 1369 01:16:42,398 --> 01:16:44,999 and can be shared. 1370 01:16:47,369 --> 01:16:50,304 You're doing a great job. 1371 01:16:57,045 --> 01:16:59,213 Dad never stood up and said, 1372 01:16:59,215 --> 01:17:01,215 "look at what I've done. Look at this. 1373 01:17:01,217 --> 01:17:02,883 Isn't this wonderful?" 1374 01:17:02,885 --> 01:17:06,487 The only time I ever saw him come even close 1375 01:17:06,489 --> 01:17:08,756 to anything like that was when he did the interview 1376 01:17:08,758 --> 01:17:10,358 with koko the gorilla. 1377 01:17:14,664 --> 01:17:16,230 Great. 1378 01:17:16,232 --> 01:17:17,431 That's a happy sound. 1379 01:17:17,433 --> 01:17:18,499 Is it? 1380 01:17:18,501 --> 01:17:19,634 That's a purr. 1381 01:17:19,636 --> 01:17:21,469 Like that? 1382 01:17:21,471 --> 01:17:23,604 Can you teach me how to do that? 1383 01:17:26,342 --> 01:17:28,676 Isn't that a nice way to welcome someone 1384 01:17:28,678 --> 01:17:30,978 and say that you're happy? 1385 01:17:32,147 --> 01:17:35,650 It's... it was a weird kind of a... 1386 01:17:35,652 --> 01:17:37,618 Kind of a thing, but, uh... 1387 01:17:37,620 --> 01:17:42,323 You realize there was something kind of magical going on there. 1388 01:17:42,325 --> 01:17:44,759 What? Love? 1389 01:17:44,761 --> 01:17:46,761 "Love you," she said. 1390 01:17:46,763 --> 01:17:49,096 -Oh, is that...? Oh. -"Love you. Visit. Love." 1391 01:17:49,098 --> 01:17:51,332 -Oh. -Well, that was very nice. 1392 01:17:51,334 --> 01:17:52,867 Thank you, koko. 1393 01:18:04,546 --> 01:18:08,015 There's so much to think about, isn't there? 1394 01:18:10,018 --> 01:18:11,786 Let me ask you something about what we've 1395 01:18:11,788 --> 01:18:14,155 -been discussing for the last three hours. -Woman: Yeah. 1396 01:18:14,157 --> 01:18:15,790 -Yeah. -Mr. Rogers and the narcissistic society 1397 01:18:15,792 --> 01:18:17,158 that he gave birth to 1398 01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:19,994 because he told every kid that they were important. 1399 01:18:19,996 --> 01:18:23,130 Do you believe his philosophy destroyed a generation? 1400 01:18:23,132 --> 01:18:26,467 This evil, evil man. 1401 01:18:26,469 --> 01:18:28,502 The criticism goes like this: 1402 01:18:28,504 --> 01:18:30,371 "You told everyone they're special. 1403 01:18:30,373 --> 01:18:33,641 "They don't have to do anything to earn that special. 1404 01:18:33,643 --> 01:18:35,576 "That's what's wrong with our country. 1405 01:18:35,578 --> 01:18:37,645 That's what's wrong with children today." 1406 01:18:37,647 --> 01:18:40,047 He didn't say, "if you want to be special, 1407 01:18:40,049 --> 01:18:41,682 you're gonna have to work hard." 1408 01:18:41,684 --> 01:18:43,250 And now all these kids are growing up, 1409 01:18:43,252 --> 01:18:45,186 and they're realizing, "hey, wait a minute. 1410 01:18:45,188 --> 01:18:48,255 Mr. Rogers lied to me. I'm not special." 1411 01:18:48,257 --> 01:18:51,492 I'm sure by then Fred had heard the criticisms, 1412 01:18:51,494 --> 01:18:55,596 but he's not talking about entitlement. 1413 01:18:55,598 --> 01:18:57,364 And if you don't believe 1414 01:18:57,366 --> 01:19:00,868 that everyone has inherent value, 1415 01:19:00,870 --> 01:19:03,437 you might as well go against 1416 01:19:03,439 --> 01:19:06,006 the fundamental notion of christianity 1417 01:19:06,008 --> 01:19:12,580 that you are the beloved son or daughter of god. 1418 01:19:12,582 --> 01:19:13,681 -Hi, Mr. Rogers. -Hi. 1419 01:19:13,683 --> 01:19:14,949 It's a pleasure to meet you. 1420 01:19:14,951 --> 01:19:16,584 I'm glad to meet you. Thank you. 1421 01:19:16,586 --> 01:19:18,185 I watched your show as a youngster. 1422 01:19:18,187 --> 01:19:19,854 I wasn't allowed to go to preschool 1423 01:19:19,856 --> 01:19:21,388 'cause I had a disability, 1424 01:19:21,390 --> 01:19:23,691 and my mom made me watch your show every day. 1425 01:19:23,693 --> 01:19:24,959 So thank you. 1426 01:19:24,961 --> 01:19:26,393 Bless your heart, and here you are. 1427 01:19:26,395 --> 01:19:28,896 Thank you for my preschool education. 1428 01:19:28,898 --> 01:19:31,365 And thank you for inspiring me today. 1429 01:19:31,367 --> 01:19:34,201 At the very end of Fred's 1430 01:19:34,203 --> 01:19:37,304 very last commencement speech, he said 1431 01:19:37,306 --> 01:19:40,474 what he meant when he'd say, "you're special." 1432 01:19:40,476 --> 01:19:44,879 And what that ultimately means, of course, 1433 01:19:44,881 --> 01:19:48,382 is that you don't ever have to do 1434 01:19:48,384 --> 01:19:51,652 anything sensational 1435 01:19:51,654 --> 01:19:53,888 for people to love you. 1436 01:19:55,056 --> 01:19:56,991 It is really a matter 1437 01:19:56,993 --> 01:19:58,893 of believing that 1438 01:19:58,895 --> 01:20:03,063 you're endowed by your creator with good. 1439 01:20:04,733 --> 01:20:06,967 You know, there are many different ways 1440 01:20:06,969 --> 01:20:08,235 of saying, "i love you." 1441 01:20:08,237 --> 01:20:10,905 In fact, I like to think about times 1442 01:20:10,907 --> 01:20:12,673 when I've seen people showing their love. 1443 01:20:12,675 --> 01:20:14,742 - Okay. 1444 01:20:14,744 --> 01:20:16,577 Mm-hmm. 1445 01:20:16,579 --> 01:20:18,078 Show 1765. 1446 01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:19,680 This is the last scene 1447 01:20:19,682 --> 01:20:22,283 of the last show of the last day, 1448 01:20:22,285 --> 01:20:25,486 the last taping day of the interior 1449 01:20:25,488 --> 01:20:27,121 of mister Rogers' neighborhood. 1450 01:20:51,647 --> 01:20:53,347 This place has been condemned. 1451 01:20:53,349 --> 01:20:55,049 Oh, it's been condemned. Oh, well. 1452 01:20:55,051 --> 01:20:58,853 -You got two days to move out. -Okay, thanks. See you. 1453 01:21:01,324 --> 01:21:03,891 That was wonderful. 1454 01:21:03,893 --> 01:21:06,126 Years ago, it wasn't so weird 1455 01:21:06,128 --> 01:21:10,965 that... that somebody as nice as Fred was around. 1456 01:21:10,967 --> 01:21:15,202 Now there-there isn't room for a nice person on TV. 1457 01:21:15,204 --> 01:21:18,305 So, we must have, uh, regular reunions. 1458 01:21:18,307 --> 01:21:19,473 Yeah. 1459 01:21:19,475 --> 01:21:20,908 How about Tuesday? 1460 01:21:22,912 --> 01:21:24,378 Yeah, I'll have forgotten by... 1461 01:21:24,380 --> 01:21:26,313 About everyone by Monday, so Tuesday will... 1462 01:21:26,315 --> 01:21:28,682 -Tuesday will bring it all back. -Bring it all back. 1463 01:21:58,014 --> 01:21:59,780 - We did it. - We did it. 1464 01:21:59,782 --> 01:22:01,181 -Can you believe it? -We did it! 1465 01:22:01,183 --> 01:22:04,518 Ooh, mercy. 1466 01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:07,755 When he did stop making the programs, 1467 01:22:07,757 --> 01:22:11,458 I felt that he was depressed. 1468 01:22:12,527 --> 01:22:14,862 I mentioned it to him, 1469 01:22:14,864 --> 01:22:17,598 and he said, 1470 01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:21,635 "well, I miss my playmates." 1471 01:22:29,245 --> 01:22:30,644 Mm-hmm. - Okay. 1472 01:22:30,646 --> 01:22:31,946 That's fine. 1473 01:22:31,948 --> 01:22:34,415 Okay. Okay, slate out. 1474 01:22:34,417 --> 01:22:36,450 We decided to have Fred back 1475 01:22:36,452 --> 01:22:40,120 to do some promos about 9/11. 1476 01:22:42,157 --> 01:22:44,558 He was very troubled, and I said, 1477 01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:46,660 "Fred, what's wrong?" And he said, 1478 01:22:46,662 --> 01:22:51,098 "i just don't know what good these are gonna do." 1479 01:22:51,100 --> 01:22:54,335 And I just remember saying, 1480 01:22:54,337 --> 01:22:56,904 "Fred, how can you say that?" 1481 01:23:02,477 --> 01:23:07,081 When the horror of 9/11 really hit him, 1482 01:23:07,083 --> 01:23:10,818 i-i think it was a real eye-opener. 1483 01:23:10,820 --> 01:23:13,754 He was realizing that... 1484 01:23:13,756 --> 01:23:16,123 It was just so big. 1485 01:23:16,125 --> 01:23:20,294 It's always going to be an ongoing struggle 1486 01:23:20,296 --> 01:23:23,263 to overcome evil. 1487 01:23:23,265 --> 01:23:26,200 I remember thinking, "okay, 1488 01:23:26,202 --> 01:23:29,670 "this is the time that you need to pump him up 1489 01:23:29,672 --> 01:23:32,272 "because he doesn't understand 1490 01:23:32,274 --> 01:23:34,775 "this... this is really important. 1491 01:23:34,777 --> 01:23:36,677 People listen to you." 1492 01:23:37,779 --> 01:23:39,513 Okay. 1493 01:23:43,618 --> 01:23:46,954 No matter what our particular job, 1494 01:23:46,956 --> 01:23:50,290 especially in our world today, 1495 01:23:50,292 --> 01:23:56,063 we all are called to be tikkun olam, 1496 01:23:56,065 --> 01:24:00,501 "repairers of creation." 1497 01:24:00,503 --> 01:24:04,972 Thank you for whatever you do, wherever you are, 1498 01:24:04,974 --> 01:24:07,975 to bring joy and light 1499 01:24:07,977 --> 01:24:09,810 and hope and faith 1500 01:24:09,812 --> 01:24:12,980 and pardon and love 1501 01:24:12,982 --> 01:24:16,817 to your neighbor and to yourself. 1502 01:24:35,570 --> 01:24:38,672 Fred didn't like going to the doctor's office. 1503 01:24:38,674 --> 01:24:41,875 He had stomach problems for a long time. 1504 01:24:41,877 --> 01:24:43,444 I mean, for several years. 1505 01:24:43,446 --> 01:24:47,581 Oh, what's that right down there? 1506 01:24:49,518 --> 01:24:51,185 Take a look at the aquarium. 1507 01:24:51,187 --> 01:24:53,520 Do you see a dead fish? 1508 01:24:53,522 --> 01:24:57,224 A dead fish would be one that isn't swimming 1509 01:24:57,226 --> 01:24:59,893 or breathing or anything at all. 1510 01:24:59,895 --> 01:25:01,695 Look down there and see, will you? 1511 01:25:01,697 --> 01:25:03,797 See if you see any. 1512 01:25:03,799 --> 01:25:05,866 Oh, yes, right there, isn't it? 1513 01:25:05,868 --> 01:25:08,368 He told me that he was sick. 1514 01:25:08,370 --> 01:25:11,371 I played a bach sarabande for him over the phone. 1515 01:25:11,373 --> 01:25:15,676 It's like sending a little loving message. 1516 01:25:23,251 --> 01:25:26,153 When he was very ill, 1517 01:25:26,155 --> 01:25:30,891 he talked a lot about dying well. 1518 01:25:30,893 --> 01:25:35,395 To die with the hopes in... 1519 01:25:35,397 --> 01:25:38,132 With the hopes intact. 1520 01:25:42,604 --> 01:25:46,273 Before he became comatose, he said, 1521 01:25:46,275 --> 01:25:49,143 "do you think I'm a sheep?" 1522 01:25:49,145 --> 01:25:51,345 And we knew what he was talking about 1523 01:25:51,347 --> 01:25:54,014 because he had been reading in the Bible 1524 01:25:54,016 --> 01:25:58,152 about the last days, with the... with the judgment. 1525 01:25:59,921 --> 01:26:03,257 It will be decided at the end 1526 01:26:03,259 --> 01:26:06,527 who is a sheep and who is a goat. 1527 01:26:08,129 --> 01:26:12,766 And I think the need was always there for being loved, 1528 01:26:12,768 --> 01:26:16,670 for being capable of being loved. 1529 01:26:18,439 --> 01:26:19,940 There was a... A little silence, 1530 01:26:19,942 --> 01:26:22,109 and then I said, "Fred, 1531 01:26:22,111 --> 01:26:24,978 if ever there was a sheep, you're one." 1532 01:26:44,299 --> 01:26:47,301 Well, I suppose it's an invitation, 1533 01:26:47,303 --> 01:26:49,870 "won't you be my neighbor?" 1534 01:26:49,872 --> 01:26:54,408 Uh, it's an invitation for... 1535 01:26:54,410 --> 01:26:57,711 Uh, somebody to be close to you. 1536 01:26:57,713 --> 01:27:03,383 You know, I think everybody longs to be loved 1537 01:27:03,385 --> 01:27:09,022 and longs to know that he or she is lovable. 1538 01:27:10,826 --> 01:27:15,495 And consequently, the greatest thing that we can do 1539 01:27:15,497 --> 01:27:18,699 is to help somebody know 1540 01:27:18,701 --> 01:27:22,903 that they're loved and capable of loving. 1541 01:27:42,023 --> 01:27:43,857 Across the street from Fred's funeral, 1542 01:27:43,859 --> 01:27:46,760 there's this hubbub, and there's all these people 1543 01:27:46,762 --> 01:27:50,230 holding up signs saying, "god hates fags." 1544 01:27:50,232 --> 01:27:51,865 And I went and talked to them 1545 01:27:51,867 --> 01:27:54,635 because Fred would have it no other way. 1546 01:27:54,637 --> 01:27:56,737 I said, "are you condemning Fred? 1547 01:27:56,739 --> 01:27:58,538 "Are you saying that he was gay? 1548 01:27:58,540 --> 01:27:59,940 Wh-what's... what's happening?" 1549 01:27:59,942 --> 01:28:02,309 And they were saying that, "no, no, he just... 1550 01:28:02,311 --> 01:28:04,211 He-he tolerated gays." 1551 01:28:04,213 --> 01:28:08,982 And so they were... they were intolerant of the tolerance. 1552 01:28:08,984 --> 01:28:12,119 And the thing that... the thing that struck me that day, 1553 01:28:12,121 --> 01:28:14,221 uh, more than anything else 1554 01:28:14,223 --> 01:28:15,989 was the children that were there. 1555 01:28:15,991 --> 01:28:20,060 Children that had been drafted into doing this work, 1556 01:28:20,062 --> 01:28:22,329 into standing there with their parents 1557 01:28:22,331 --> 01:28:24,798 and holding up signs and screaming. 1558 01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:29,670 And those kids looked so unhappy. 1559 01:28:29,672 --> 01:28:33,140 Those kids looked so exhausted. 1560 01:28:33,142 --> 01:28:35,409 Those kids looked so ill-treated. 1561 01:28:35,411 --> 01:28:37,144 It was just heart-breaking. 1562 01:28:37,146 --> 01:28:40,314 And I... and I knew that if Fred had seen that, 1563 01:28:40,316 --> 01:28:42,683 that that's where his heart would have gone. 1564 01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:01,768 I can't think how he would feel 1565 01:29:01,770 --> 01:29:05,605 about the things that have come out 1566 01:29:05,607 --> 01:29:10,777 that seem to set us back so far. 1567 01:29:10,779 --> 01:29:13,480 And I wonder if he wouldn't simply 1568 01:29:13,482 --> 01:29:16,350 put down his tiger and just stay home, 1569 01:29:16,352 --> 01:29:19,119 forget about even trying. 1570 01:29:19,121 --> 01:29:22,322 He's not a person who would have given up, 1571 01:29:22,324 --> 01:29:24,458 but this is daunting. 1572 01:29:26,461 --> 01:29:30,330 I... I think he would be trying to mend... 1573 01:29:30,332 --> 01:29:32,599 Mend the... 1574 01:29:34,802 --> 01:29:36,903 ...the split. 1575 01:29:39,140 --> 01:29:43,477 He would be trying to find some way 1576 01:29:43,479 --> 01:29:46,513 to find something positive. 1577 01:29:46,515 --> 01:29:48,382 When I was a boy 1578 01:29:48,384 --> 01:29:50,650 and I would hear about something scary, 1579 01:29:50,652 --> 01:29:52,252 my mother would tell us, 1580 01:29:52,254 --> 01:29:54,821 "always look for the people who are helping. 1581 01:29:54,823 --> 01:29:59,826 You'll always find somebody who's trying to help." 1582 01:29:59,828 --> 01:30:01,528 I think there are a lot of people 1583 01:30:01,530 --> 01:30:03,430 out there like Fred Rogers. 1584 01:30:03,432 --> 01:30:06,466 A lot more than we really want to believe. 1585 01:30:07,902 --> 01:30:10,670 In response to the question, 1586 01:30:10,672 --> 01:30:13,173 "what would Fred Rogers do?" 1587 01:30:13,175 --> 01:30:16,910 It's not a question that you can answer. 1588 01:30:18,112 --> 01:30:20,680 The most important question is: 1589 01:30:20,682 --> 01:30:23,016 "What are you going to do?" 1590 01:30:23,018 --> 01:30:26,052 From the time you were very little, 1591 01:30:26,054 --> 01:30:31,425 you've had people who have smiled you into smiling, 1592 01:30:31,427 --> 01:30:35,729 people who have talked you into talking, 1593 01:30:35,731 --> 01:30:39,366 sung you into singing, 1594 01:30:39,368 --> 01:30:41,868 loved you into loving. 1595 01:30:41,870 --> 01:30:45,205 When he was giving speeches, he would say, 1596 01:30:45,207 --> 01:30:49,976 "now, think about somebody who's helped you along the way 1597 01:30:49,978 --> 01:30:52,145 "for one minute. 1598 01:30:52,147 --> 01:30:55,048 I'm going to time you." 1599 01:30:55,050 --> 01:30:57,717 Let's just take some time 1600 01:30:57,719 --> 01:31:01,788 to think of those extra special people. 1601 01:31:04,826 --> 01:31:06,159 Hmm. 1602 01:31:06,161 --> 01:31:10,130 Some of them may be right here. 1603 01:31:10,132 --> 01:31:13,400 Some may be far away. 1604 01:31:13,402 --> 01:31:16,736 Some may even be in heaven. 1605 01:31:16,738 --> 01:31:18,972 No matter where they are, 1606 01:31:18,974 --> 01:31:22,442 deep down, you know they've always wanted 1607 01:31:22,444 --> 01:31:25,011 what was best for you. 1608 01:31:25,013 --> 01:31:29,816 They've always cared about you beyond measure 1609 01:31:29,818 --> 01:31:33,153 and have encouraged you to be true 1610 01:31:33,155 --> 01:31:35,555 to the best within you. 1611 01:31:47,935 --> 01:31:49,102 Thank you. 1612 01:31:50,137 --> 01:31:52,038 My mother. 1613 01:31:52,040 --> 01:31:53,707 How I got to this point, 1614 01:31:53,709 --> 01:31:56,510 because it was my grandfather's doing. 1615 01:31:56,512 --> 01:31:58,979 There was this woman named viola 1616 01:31:58,981 --> 01:32:01,281 who used to take care of me when I was little. 1617 01:32:01,283 --> 01:32:02,916 She was our babysitter. 1618 01:32:03,784 --> 01:32:06,019 I thought about Fred. 1619 01:32:07,021 --> 01:32:08,021 How about you? 1620 01:32:09,056 --> 01:32:10,590 Yeah. 1621 01:32:11,459 --> 01:32:13,026 Mm. 1622 01:32:26,140 --> 01:32:27,741 Thank you. 1623 01:32:59,841 --> 01:33:02,375 Please welcome Jeffrey erlanger. 1624 01:33:05,346 --> 01:33:07,847 Oh, my. http://worldmkv.com/ 1625 01:33:07,849 --> 01:33:09,416 Hi. 1626 01:33:09,418 --> 01:33:12,352 I am so glad to see you. 1627 01:33:12,354 --> 01:33:14,287 -Thank you. You, too. -Oh! 1628 01:33:15,423 --> 01:33:17,591 What a surprise. 1629 01:33:42,784 --> 01:33:45,952 You help to make each day a special day 1630 01:33:45,954 --> 01:33:49,222 by just your being yourself. 1631 01:33:49,224 --> 01:33:51,825 There's nobody else in the whole world 1632 01:33:51,827 --> 01:33:53,893 who's exactly like you. 1633 01:33:53,895 --> 01:33:58,898 And people can like you exactly as you are. http://worldmkv.com/ 1634 01:33:58,900 --> 01:34:02,268 You are special. 126797

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