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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,570 --> 00:00:03,615 ACTIVIST: What do we want? ALL: Free Britney! 2 00:00:03,615 --> 00:00:04,951 ACTIVIST: When do we want it? 3 00:00:04,951 --> 00:00:06,413 ALL: Now! ACTIVIST: What do we want? 4 00:00:06,413 --> 00:00:08,792 ALL: Free Britney! ACTIVIST: When do we want it? 5 00:00:08,792 --> 00:00:10,755 ALL: Now! ACTIVIST: What do we want? 6 00:00:10,755 --> 00:00:14,094 ‐ This is "Free Britney 102," where we explore issues 7 00:00:14,094 --> 00:00:16,140 related to the Free Britney movement. 8 00:00:16,140 --> 00:00:18,144 The Free Britney movement is advocating 9 00:00:18,144 --> 00:00:20,483 for the end of Britney Spears' conservatorship. 10 00:00:20,483 --> 00:00:22,110 ‐ I need everyone who is scrolling right now 11 00:00:22,110 --> 00:00:23,989 to stop and watch this video. 12 00:00:23,989 --> 00:00:25,493 ‐ Britney Spears needs our help. 13 00:00:25,493 --> 00:00:27,663 Since 2008, she has been under something called 14 00:00:27,663 --> 00:00:29,834 a legal conservatorship by her father. 15 00:00:29,834 --> 00:00:31,338 ACTIVIST: Now, a conservatorship literally 16 00:00:31,338 --> 00:00:33,592 gives someone else the control of your life. 17 00:00:33,592 --> 00:00:35,805 They decide what you can and can't do, 18 00:00:35,805 --> 00:00:37,642 and it's usually used for elderly people 19 00:00:37,642 --> 00:00:39,938 who don't have the necessary brain function. 20 00:00:39,938 --> 00:00:42,275 ‐ But a functioning woman that's been working nonstop, 21 00:00:42,275 --> 00:00:44,656 it just‐‐ it doesn't make any sense. 22 00:00:44,656 --> 00:00:47,160 ‐ Dear Britney, my name is Elizabeth Denon, 23 00:00:47,160 --> 00:00:48,705 and I'm 29 years old. 24 00:00:48,705 --> 00:00:50,334 ‐ My name is James Miller, 25 00:00:50,334 --> 00:00:51,837 and I'm from Baton Rouge, Louisiana. 26 00:00:51,837 --> 00:00:53,841 ‐ My name is Jasmine. I'm 28, 27 00:00:53,841 --> 00:00:56,346 and I am a Scorpio from New Jersey. 28 00:00:56,346 --> 00:00:57,598 ‐ Dear Britney. ‐ Dear Britney. 29 00:00:57,598 --> 00:00:58,934 ‐ Dear Britney. ‐ I'm so nervous. 30 00:00:58,934 --> 00:01:00,354 I'm, like, sweating. 31 00:01:00,354 --> 00:01:02,692 ‐ Your whole situation is consuming me now. 32 00:01:02,692 --> 00:01:06,031 I can't believe that it's just been this long 33 00:01:06,031 --> 00:01:09,372 and I didn't know. 34 00:01:09,372 --> 00:01:11,000 BRITNEY: When I first started, I didn't know 35 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:12,920 what I was doing, but every day you learn more, 36 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:14,841 and you gain more wisdom from that. 37 00:01:14,841 --> 00:01:16,177 ‐ Why is she still in this? 38 00:01:16,177 --> 00:01:17,847 Why is her dad making all of her decisions? 39 00:01:17,847 --> 00:01:19,517 BRITNEY: I am where I am today‐‐ 40 00:01:19,517 --> 00:01:20,853 it's because I do have control. 41 00:01:20,853 --> 00:01:22,189 You know, you have to. 42 00:01:22,189 --> 00:01:24,527 Otherwise you get sucked in by people. 43 00:01:24,527 --> 00:01:26,823 ‐ I have always viewed the situation as something that 44 00:01:26,823 --> 00:01:30,372 I don't think would have ever happened to a man in America. 45 00:01:30,372 --> 00:01:32,793 BRITNEY: Trust me, there are days that I have‐‐ 46 00:01:32,793 --> 00:01:34,964 I struggle with myself. 47 00:01:34,964 --> 00:01:37,511 ‐ I am familiar with the lawyers on the case. 48 00:01:37,511 --> 00:01:39,390 They care deeply for Britney. 49 00:01:39,390 --> 00:01:41,060 ‐ I trust the system. 50 00:01:41,060 --> 00:01:43,857 I believe the law is aimed 51 00:01:43,857 --> 00:01:46,738 at actually protecting the conservatee. 52 00:01:46,738 --> 00:01:48,909 BRITNEY: There are things out there that have been said 53 00:01:48,909 --> 00:01:52,375 about me that aren't completely true. 54 00:01:52,375 --> 00:01:54,379 ‐ We stand up for you, Britney Spears, 55 00:01:54,379 --> 00:01:57,343 and we won't stop until you reach freedom. 56 00:01:57,343 --> 00:01:59,347 BRITNEY: There's a lot that people don't know about me 57 00:01:59,347 --> 00:02:02,395 that I want them to know. 58 00:02:25,273 --> 00:02:26,735 ACTIVIST: Growing up, I struggled with 59 00:02:26,735 --> 00:02:29,699 anxiety and depression, and Britney Spears is the one 60 00:02:29,699 --> 00:02:32,455 who made it okay to struggle with those things. 61 00:02:32,455 --> 00:02:35,126 ACTIVIST: She gave me permission to be myself 62 00:02:35,126 --> 00:02:38,592 growing up as a gay boy in suburban Virginia, 63 00:02:38,592 --> 00:02:41,765 and Britney gave me the power to be who I am. 64 00:02:41,765 --> 00:02:43,644 ACTIVIST: She even shaved her hair off. 65 00:02:43,644 --> 00:02:45,271 Hey, I shaved my hair off too 66 00:02:45,271 --> 00:02:46,941 because I didn't want nobody touching me. 67 00:02:46,941 --> 00:02:48,612 And they still didn't get it. 68 00:02:48,612 --> 00:02:51,116 LIZ: Britney is in the midst of a legal battle right now. 69 00:02:51,116 --> 00:02:52,995 She's been in a conservatorship 70 00:02:52,995 --> 00:02:54,415 for the past 12 years. 71 00:02:54,415 --> 00:02:56,795 ‐ Free Britney! ‐ Justice for Britney. 72 00:02:56,795 --> 00:02:59,132 ‐ There's been a lot of speculation as to whether 73 00:02:59,132 --> 00:03:00,969 this is in Britney's best interests, 74 00:03:00,969 --> 00:03:03,224 and is this good for her? Is this what she wants? 75 00:03:03,224 --> 00:03:04,811 ‐ All right, so today 76 00:03:04,811 --> 00:03:07,650 we have a conservatorship hearing for Britney Spears. 77 00:03:07,650 --> 00:03:11,658 Apparently, conservator of the estate is Jamie Spears. 78 00:03:11,658 --> 00:03:14,330 ALL: Boo! 79 00:03:14,330 --> 00:03:16,835 Jamie out! Jamie out! 80 00:03:16,835 --> 00:03:19,340 LIZ: Her dad has been in charge of her money 81 00:03:19,340 --> 00:03:20,676 for the last 12 years, 82 00:03:20,676 --> 00:03:23,640 and a few months ago Britney's lawyer said 83 00:03:23,640 --> 00:03:25,978 Britney wants someone else to be in charge of her money 84 00:03:25,978 --> 00:03:28,483 and wants Jamie, her father, to step down. 85 00:03:28,483 --> 00:03:31,155 Britney's father so far has refused to step down. 86 00:03:31,155 --> 00:03:32,992 ‐ But this time it just feels different. 87 00:03:32,992 --> 00:03:34,077 I'm so excited. 88 00:03:34,077 --> 00:03:36,499 ‐ I feel‐‐ I feel really hopeful. 89 00:03:36,499 --> 00:03:37,835 ‐ Hey, guys, it's Megan. 90 00:03:37,835 --> 00:03:39,589 The judge has not made any decisions yet, 91 00:03:39,589 --> 00:03:41,342 but we did wanna give you a quick update. 92 00:03:41,342 --> 00:03:44,181 Britney has told Ingham on multiple occasions 93 00:03:44,181 --> 00:03:47,354 that she's scared of her father and that she refuses to work 94 00:03:47,354 --> 00:03:51,821 until he is no longer in control of her career. 95 00:03:53,909 --> 00:03:56,414 LIZ: To understand where Britney is now, 96 00:03:56,414 --> 00:04:01,131 we should understand how she got here. 97 00:04:01,131 --> 00:04:04,095 [objects thumping faintly] 98 00:04:05,682 --> 00:04:07,811 ‐ Okay. 99 00:04:09,357 --> 00:04:15,159 These are letters to me from the fans. 100 00:04:15,159 --> 00:04:18,542 So if I got this many, you can imagine‐‐ 101 00:04:18,542 --> 00:04:23,552 oh, the ones that Britney got would fill up the entire room, 102 00:04:23,552 --> 00:04:25,514 would fill up the entire room. 103 00:04:25,514 --> 00:04:28,520 [delicate music] 104 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,484 Yeah. Sorry. 105 00:04:31,484 --> 00:04:33,195 [laughs] 106 00:04:33,195 --> 00:04:35,409 That was pretty cool. 107 00:04:35,409 --> 00:04:39,500 You know, I don't know that I ever really had any definition 108 00:04:39,500 --> 00:04:42,882 on what I was supposed to do with Britney. 109 00:04:42,882 --> 00:04:45,387 For a long time they called me her chaperone, 110 00:04:45,387 --> 00:04:47,056 and then at one point 111 00:04:47,056 --> 00:04:49,562 they wanted to call me her partner, 112 00:04:49,562 --> 00:04:51,189 and we didn't think that sounded right. 113 00:04:51,189 --> 00:04:52,860 I definitely was not her mother, 114 00:04:52,860 --> 00:04:56,367 and I wasn't her big sister, so we settled on assistant. 115 00:04:56,367 --> 00:04:59,874 ♪ ♪ 116 00:04:59,874 --> 00:05:03,005 I wanna give you a tour of my tiny, little home. 117 00:05:03,005 --> 00:05:06,346 Britney's mother helped decorate 118 00:05:06,346 --> 00:05:10,604 because she's so proud of her sweet baby. 119 00:05:10,604 --> 00:05:12,441 50,000 in Austria. 120 00:05:12,441 --> 00:05:14,820 This is 5 million at this point. 121 00:05:14,820 --> 00:05:17,910 These are more. [laughs] 122 00:05:17,910 --> 00:05:19,747 This is the first one I got, y'all. 123 00:05:19,747 --> 00:05:21,459 This is when "...Baby One More Time" 124 00:05:21,459 --> 00:05:23,170 was a multi‐platinum album. 125 00:05:23,170 --> 00:05:26,051 You have to sell a million copies in the United States 126 00:05:26,051 --> 00:05:27,554 for an album to be platinum. 127 00:05:27,554 --> 00:05:30,560 It can go platinum many, many, many times. 128 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:34,860 This is 11 million copies. 129 00:05:34,860 --> 00:05:36,572 [laughs] 130 00:05:36,572 --> 00:05:39,912 To be honest, I didn't then, 131 00:05:39,912 --> 00:05:43,962 nor do I now understand what a conservatorship is, 132 00:05:43,962 --> 00:05:47,010 especially for somebody Britney's age 133 00:05:47,010 --> 00:05:49,807 and somebody capable of so much 134 00:05:49,807 --> 00:05:53,356 that I know firsthand she's capable of. 135 00:05:53,356 --> 00:05:57,531 She was a small‐town girl from Kentwood, Louisiana. 136 00:05:57,531 --> 00:05:59,869 LIZ: Can you describe Kentwood, Louisiana? 137 00:05:59,869 --> 00:06:02,332 FELICIA: Just a tiny, sleepy little town, 138 00:06:02,332 --> 00:06:06,256 very hospitable and humble, unpretentious. 139 00:06:06,256 --> 00:06:07,801 We are who we are. 140 00:06:07,801 --> 00:06:09,597 We're not wealthy, 141 00:06:09,597 --> 00:06:12,143 but we're wealthy in many other ways. 142 00:06:12,143 --> 00:06:15,776 We are definitely in‐‐right in the middle of the Bible Belt. 143 00:06:15,776 --> 00:06:17,278 Britney sang in the choir. 144 00:06:17,278 --> 00:06:20,034 She grew up going to church every Sunday. 145 00:06:20,034 --> 00:06:22,664 So I've known her since she was five. 146 00:06:22,664 --> 00:06:24,543 You know, by then we all knew her talent 147 00:06:24,543 --> 00:06:26,380 was just extraordinary. 148 00:06:26,380 --> 00:06:29,637 I will say the one reason that I agreed to do the interview 149 00:06:29,637 --> 00:06:31,474 is so we could remind people 150 00:06:31,474 --> 00:06:33,520 of why they fell in love with her in the first place. 151 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:34,980 ‐ From Kentwood, Louisiana, 152 00:06:34,980 --> 00:06:38,195 here is ten‐year‐old Britney Spears. 153 00:06:38,195 --> 00:06:40,492 [cheers and applause] 154 00:06:40,492 --> 00:06:42,621 [The Judds' "Love Can Build a Bridge" playing] 155 00:06:42,621 --> 00:06:48,716 ‐ ♪ Love can build a bridge ♪ 156 00:06:48,716 --> 00:06:50,804 ♪ Between your heart ♪ 157 00:06:50,804 --> 00:06:54,812 ‐ If you think about her coming from such a small town, 158 00:06:54,812 --> 00:06:59,363 you know, she clawed her way into the industry 159 00:06:59,363 --> 00:07:01,742 right from the beginning. 160 00:07:01,742 --> 00:07:03,872 ‐ ♪ Oh, anything ♪ 161 00:07:03,872 --> 00:07:09,215 ♪ Keep believing in the power ♪ 162 00:07:09,215 --> 00:07:12,556 ‐ I noticed last week you have the most adorable, pretty eyes. 163 00:07:12,556 --> 00:07:14,560 Do you have a boyfriend? ‐ No, sir. 164 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:16,689 ‐ Why not? ‐ They're mean. 165 00:07:16,689 --> 00:07:18,484 [laughter] 166 00:07:18,484 --> 00:07:20,447 ‐ Boyfriends? You mean all boys are mean? 167 00:07:20,447 --> 00:07:22,618 I'm not mean. How about me? 168 00:07:22,618 --> 00:07:24,413 ‐ Well, it depends. 169 00:07:24,413 --> 00:07:26,417 [laughter] 170 00:07:26,417 --> 00:07:28,755 HAYLEY: Of all the things that she could be asked about, 171 00:07:28,755 --> 00:07:31,677 because what else could we possibly talk to a woman 172 00:07:31,677 --> 00:07:33,556 or a girl about? 173 00:07:33,556 --> 00:07:36,979 There's so much more to her that everybody's missing. 174 00:07:36,979 --> 00:07:39,902 [light dramatic music] 175 00:07:39,902 --> 00:07:42,491 NANCY: Her parents reached out to me by letter, 176 00:07:42,491 --> 00:07:45,079 and the letter said something like, 177 00:07:45,079 --> 00:07:47,834 "We have no idea what to do with this child. 178 00:07:47,834 --> 00:07:49,588 Help us. What do we do?" 179 00:07:49,588 --> 00:07:50,924 I replied and said, 180 00:07:50,924 --> 00:07:53,596 "Well, I would love to meet her in person." 181 00:07:55,767 --> 00:07:58,564 They took the train from Louisiana to New York 182 00:07:58,564 --> 00:08:00,485 'cause I don't think they could afford to fly. 183 00:08:00,485 --> 00:08:02,614 Her parents were working people. 184 00:08:02,614 --> 00:08:06,706 Her mom was just so sweet, so proud of her daughter, 185 00:08:06,706 --> 00:08:10,212 and her dad too was very proud of‐‐proud of Britney, 186 00:08:10,212 --> 00:08:16,016 and he was more concerned with the financial aspect of it. 187 00:08:16,016 --> 00:08:18,103 How was he gonna be able to make this happen? 188 00:08:18,103 --> 00:08:19,440 Could he make it happen? 189 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:23,280 But I know he wanted to make it happen for her. 190 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:24,950 And we came up with a plan. 191 00:08:24,950 --> 00:08:29,626 Lynne and Britney would come to New York for a period of time. 192 00:08:29,626 --> 00:08:32,006 Britney could study voice in New York, 193 00:08:32,006 --> 00:08:33,593 and study dance in New York, 194 00:08:33,593 --> 00:08:35,638 and do some acting and audition. 195 00:08:35,638 --> 00:08:41,650 She was a funny, sweet, wonderful little girl. 196 00:08:41,650 --> 00:08:44,782 I‐I loved her. I love her still. 197 00:08:44,782 --> 00:08:51,337 ‐ ♪ And I ain't had no loving since God knows when ♪ 198 00:08:51,337 --> 00:08:53,173 NANCY: Jamie visited from time to time 199 00:08:53,173 --> 00:08:58,141 and was anxious to see this time be worthwhile 200 00:08:58,141 --> 00:09:01,732 so that he could justify the money 201 00:09:01,732 --> 00:09:04,070 that it was costing to do this. 202 00:09:04,070 --> 00:09:06,282 ‐ There was a time where you were struggling to really 203 00:09:06,282 --> 00:09:08,329 make ends meet, and you saved all the money 204 00:09:08,329 --> 00:09:10,583 you could to get singing lessons for Britney. 205 00:09:10,583 --> 00:09:12,421 How did you manage to do all of that? 206 00:09:12,421 --> 00:09:13,840 ‐ It was really hard. 207 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,512 A lot of times we would rob from Peter to pay Paul. 208 00:09:16,512 --> 00:09:18,265 You know, it was really hard. 209 00:09:18,265 --> 00:09:20,144 NANCY: All this led to 210 00:09:20,144 --> 00:09:21,689 "The Mickey Mouse Club" audition, 211 00:09:21,689 --> 00:09:23,776 and she nailed it. 212 00:09:23,776 --> 00:09:26,197 ‐ We've got a girl that enters a strange dimension 213 00:09:26,197 --> 00:09:28,661 of sight and sound as she crosses over 214 00:09:28,661 --> 00:09:31,542 into the Teenage Zone. 215 00:09:31,542 --> 00:09:36,802 ♪ I know a place, and nobody ♪ 216 00:09:36,802 --> 00:09:39,808 ‐ Britney just loved it, and when it ended, 217 00:09:39,808 --> 00:09:43,316 it was devastating. 218 00:09:43,316 --> 00:09:44,902 BRITNEY: After "The Mickey Mouse Club," 219 00:09:44,902 --> 00:09:46,196 I went home for, like, two years, 220 00:09:46,196 --> 00:09:47,657 and I was completely normal. 221 00:09:47,657 --> 00:09:51,373 I went to high school, and I did‐‐I played basketball. 222 00:09:51,373 --> 00:09:53,210 I was just, you know, really involved with my school. 223 00:09:53,210 --> 00:09:55,548 NANCY: And we started looking for auditions, 224 00:09:55,548 --> 00:09:57,844 but it‐‐financially, it would have been 225 00:09:57,844 --> 00:09:59,180 very difficult for them 226 00:09:59,180 --> 00:10:00,850 to come back and forth to New York. 227 00:10:00,850 --> 00:10:02,854 It was a tough time. It was a tough time, 228 00:10:02,854 --> 00:10:05,485 and it was really, "What are we going to do now?" 229 00:10:05,485 --> 00:10:09,576 And I know that the idea of singing was interesting to her. 230 00:10:09,576 --> 00:10:13,584 I remember her making a demo tape. 231 00:10:15,045 --> 00:10:16,674 FELICIA: Before I worked with Britney, 232 00:10:16,674 --> 00:10:19,053 I was a nanny in New York. Lynne called. 233 00:10:19,053 --> 00:10:21,015 She said, "Well, Britney and I are gonna be in the city, 234 00:10:21,015 --> 00:10:22,644 and we'd love for you to have dinner with us," 235 00:10:22,644 --> 00:10:24,063 and I said, "Oh, that sounds great." 236 00:10:24,063 --> 00:10:26,860 And Lynne said, "Felicia, I had an ulterior motive 237 00:10:26,860 --> 00:10:29,575 for inviting you to dinner," and I said, "What?" 238 00:10:29,575 --> 00:10:31,787 She said, "Britney got a record deal today, 239 00:10:31,787 --> 00:10:33,081 "and I can't travel with her 240 00:10:33,081 --> 00:10:34,459 "'cause Jamie Lynn's in the first grade, 241 00:10:34,459 --> 00:10:36,755 but‐‐can you travel with her?" 242 00:10:36,755 --> 00:10:38,049 And I said, "Oh, my gosh, Lynne, 243 00:10:38,049 --> 00:10:40,430 "well, I quit my job yesterday. I guess I can, 244 00:10:40,430 --> 00:10:42,266 but I'll do it for three months," 245 00:10:42,266 --> 00:10:45,898 and that was, mm, about 23 years ago. 246 00:10:45,898 --> 00:10:47,986 [light music] 247 00:10:47,986 --> 00:10:50,240 KIM: She had plans to come to New York 248 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:51,660 to meet people at the label. 249 00:10:51,660 --> 00:10:56,127 She came into my office with her chaperone. 250 00:10:56,127 --> 00:10:58,924 Her parents were in Louisiana. 251 00:10:58,924 --> 00:11:01,847 She had a younger sibling that was still in school 252 00:11:01,847 --> 00:11:03,684 and had to be taken care of, 253 00:11:03,684 --> 00:11:07,066 so Felicia was really sitting in for the parents. 254 00:11:07,066 --> 00:11:08,944 I remember Britney came in, 255 00:11:08,944 --> 00:11:11,282 and I was really impressed with the fact 256 00:11:11,282 --> 00:11:16,585 that she was so serious and so focused, 257 00:11:16,585 --> 00:11:19,424 and I thought, "This is the style. 258 00:11:19,424 --> 00:11:21,970 "This is a girl that's coming from strength, 259 00:11:21,970 --> 00:11:24,810 "your friend that you kind of idolize a little bit, 260 00:11:24,810 --> 00:11:26,563 "but that at the end of the day 261 00:11:26,563 --> 00:11:29,110 has the same kind of hopes and dreams that you do." 262 00:11:29,110 --> 00:11:32,450 ‐ Mama, come here. 263 00:11:32,450 --> 00:11:35,707 Aww, y'all look so pretty. This is my mom right here. 264 00:11:35,707 --> 00:11:37,042 And this is my brother's girlfriend. 265 00:11:37,042 --> 00:11:38,546 This is my little sister. 266 00:11:38,546 --> 00:11:40,298 LIZ: Jamie, Britney's father, wasn't around very much 267 00:11:40,298 --> 00:11:41,844 when Britney was growing up. 268 00:11:41,844 --> 00:11:44,014 We know that Jamie was struggling with alcohol, 269 00:11:44,014 --> 00:11:45,518 and he later goes to rehab. 270 00:11:45,518 --> 00:11:48,691 He drifts in between construction, being a cook, 271 00:11:48,691 --> 00:11:51,447 tries to open a gym business that didn't work out, 272 00:11:51,447 --> 00:11:53,993 and later ends up filing for bankruptcy. 273 00:11:53,993 --> 00:11:57,500 He doesn't seem to be a big presence in her life. 274 00:11:57,500 --> 00:12:01,425 KIM: Her mother would do whatever it took, 275 00:12:01,425 --> 00:12:05,015 personally and for the family's sake, 276 00:12:05,015 --> 00:12:07,353 for Britney to be a star. 277 00:12:07,353 --> 00:12:11,110 Lynne supported Britney. 278 00:12:11,110 --> 00:12:15,787 I wanna say Lynne because I never talked to her father. 279 00:12:15,787 --> 00:12:17,874 The only thing Jamie ever said to me was, 280 00:12:17,874 --> 00:12:19,377 "My daughter's gonna be so rich, 281 00:12:19,377 --> 00:12:22,509 she's gonna buy me a boat." 282 00:12:22,509 --> 00:12:25,681 That's all I'm gonna say about Jamie. 283 00:12:32,904 --> 00:12:34,198 ‐ Hi, I'm Britney Spears, 284 00:12:34,198 --> 00:12:35,493 and I'm so happy to be here today 285 00:12:35,493 --> 00:12:37,037 in Langhorne, so thanks for coming out. 286 00:12:37,037 --> 00:12:39,543 The name of this song is "Thinkin' About You." 287 00:12:39,543 --> 00:12:43,049 KIM: There's a lot of work that goes into the preparation 288 00:12:43,049 --> 00:12:44,719 for an album release. 289 00:12:44,719 --> 00:12:46,431 Kids go to school. 290 00:12:46,431 --> 00:12:51,107 Kids go to the mall, so how do we reach those kids? 291 00:12:51,107 --> 00:12:52,443 ‐ Hi, what's your name? 292 00:12:52,443 --> 00:12:56,785 And this next song is my first single, 293 00:12:56,785 --> 00:12:58,747 and it's called "...Baby One More Time." 294 00:12:58,747 --> 00:13:00,250 FELICIA: We'd be in the middle of the mall, 295 00:13:00,250 --> 00:13:03,382 and people would slowly stop and gather and watch, 296 00:13:03,382 --> 00:13:06,220 and then when it was over, we would go shopping. 297 00:13:06,220 --> 00:13:09,226 [Britney Spears' "...Baby One More Time" playing] 298 00:13:09,226 --> 00:13:11,732 ‐ ♪ Oh, baby, baby ♪ 299 00:13:11,732 --> 00:13:13,569 ♪ ♪ 300 00:13:13,569 --> 00:13:17,075 ‐ But then as she became a little more popular... 301 00:13:17,075 --> 00:13:18,913 ‐ "...Baby One More Time." 302 00:13:18,913 --> 00:13:20,666 [crowd screaming] 303 00:13:20,666 --> 00:13:23,422 ‐ People really started coming to the malls 304 00:13:23,422 --> 00:13:25,258 to seek out where we were. 305 00:13:25,258 --> 00:13:28,390 ‐ ♪ That something wasn't right here ♪ 306 00:13:28,390 --> 00:13:32,064 ♪ Show me how you want it to be ♪ 307 00:13:32,064 --> 00:13:33,149 WESLEY: The video shows up. 308 00:13:33,149 --> 00:13:34,653 Quite famously, 309 00:13:34,653 --> 00:13:38,327 she is in a schoolgirl's uniform. 310 00:13:38,327 --> 00:13:41,458 She owns the hallways at this school, 311 00:13:41,458 --> 00:13:44,296 and the song is‐‐ 312 00:13:44,296 --> 00:13:46,343 is obviously sexual in nature. 313 00:13:46,343 --> 00:13:49,432 ‐ Teen singing sensation Britney Spears. 314 00:13:49,432 --> 00:13:52,939 ‐ ♪ 'Cause I need to know now, oh, because ♪ 315 00:13:52,939 --> 00:13:54,567 WESLEY: If you're 12 or 13 years old, 316 00:13:54,567 --> 00:13:56,905 you're seeing a person who reminds you 317 00:13:56,905 --> 00:13:58,409 in some ways of you. 318 00:13:58,409 --> 00:14:00,955 It isn't the sex part that seems cool. 319 00:14:00,955 --> 00:14:04,294 It's the control and command over herself 320 00:14:04,294 --> 00:14:06,717 and her space that seems cool. 321 00:14:06,717 --> 00:14:09,138 ‐ She's so cool. I love her. 322 00:14:09,138 --> 00:14:11,267 I love the way she moves and she grooves. 323 00:14:11,267 --> 00:14:14,315 KIM: She just captured that dichotomy so well 324 00:14:14,315 --> 00:14:16,653 of what a teenage girl is. 325 00:14:16,653 --> 00:14:20,953 Teenage girls wanna be adult women, but they also are kids. 326 00:14:20,953 --> 00:14:22,999 BOTH: We love Britney! 327 00:14:22,999 --> 00:14:24,293 REPORTER: Well, congratulations. 328 00:14:24,293 --> 00:14:26,255 Your single is exploding. ‐ BRITNEY: Thank you. 329 00:14:26,255 --> 00:14:29,094 KIM: There's no bigger star in pop music than Britney Spears. 330 00:14:29,094 --> 00:14:30,347 BRITNEY: It's so exciting. 331 00:14:30,347 --> 00:14:32,477 It's really exciting. I'm very flattered. 332 00:14:32,477 --> 00:14:34,146 INTERVIEWER: Are you even surprised at how fast 333 00:14:34,146 --> 00:14:36,693 this has happened to you? 334 00:14:36,693 --> 00:14:37,987 ‐ Oh, my goodness, yeah. 335 00:14:37,987 --> 00:14:39,991 It's, like, all of a sudden, you know? 336 00:14:39,991 --> 00:14:41,495 O‐‐it seems like overnight, just boom, 337 00:14:41,495 --> 00:14:43,624 you're just‐‐you're famous. It's weird. 338 00:14:43,624 --> 00:14:45,377 FAN: Britney! Britney! 339 00:14:45,377 --> 00:14:48,509 KIM: You have to remember one really important thing. 340 00:14:48,509 --> 00:14:52,350 This is boy band time. This is not about girls. 341 00:14:52,350 --> 00:14:54,687 Girls don't sell. 342 00:14:54,687 --> 00:14:58,069 So it really was a phenomenon. 343 00:15:00,533 --> 00:15:02,578 FELICIA: We still were those people 344 00:15:02,578 --> 00:15:05,208 from Mississippi, Louisiana. 345 00:15:05,208 --> 00:15:08,715 We were fresh, and everything was new. 346 00:15:08,715 --> 00:15:11,346 She was so humbled by everything. 347 00:15:11,346 --> 00:15:13,767 One of the first things that she did 348 00:15:13,767 --> 00:15:17,190 when she just was getting famous was she‐‐ 349 00:15:17,190 --> 00:15:18,861 we were home for Christmas, 350 00:15:18,861 --> 00:15:23,829 and she wanted to go get $10,000 in $100 bills, 351 00:15:23,829 --> 00:15:26,208 and she just drove through Kentwood 352 00:15:26,208 --> 00:15:29,674 and gave out $100 bills, 353 00:15:29,674 --> 00:15:31,303 And it wasn't, "Hi, I'm Britney Spears." 354 00:15:31,303 --> 00:15:34,057 It was, "Merry Christmas." 355 00:15:34,057 --> 00:15:37,565 ‐ I'm joined now by the one and only Britney Spears. 356 00:15:37,565 --> 00:15:40,571 Dave Holmes is outside with just, uh‐‐just a boatload 357 00:15:40,571 --> 00:15:42,533 of some of your biggest fans, I can imagine. 358 00:15:42,533 --> 00:15:45,079 ‐ Oh, my God. Everyone say hi to Britney. 359 00:15:45,079 --> 00:15:46,750 ALL: Hi, Britney! 360 00:15:46,750 --> 00:15:50,799 ‐ Britney played MTV, 1999, perfectly. 361 00:15:50,799 --> 00:15:53,555 She was in the studio for "TRL" a lot. 362 00:15:53,555 --> 00:15:55,726 She produced excellent videos. 363 00:15:55,726 --> 00:15:57,688 ‐ These are my best friends, and they travel with me. 364 00:15:57,688 --> 00:16:00,109 DAVE: She seemed very approachable to the audience, 365 00:16:00,109 --> 00:16:03,282 so they could really connect with her 366 00:16:03,282 --> 00:16:07,207 in a way that has never really been severed. 367 00:16:07,207 --> 00:16:10,171 ‐ ♪ Ooh, baby, baby, oops, I did it again ♪ 368 00:16:10,171 --> 00:16:11,591 INTERVIEWER: You sold over 369 00:16:11,591 --> 00:16:13,260 20 million copies of your last album. 370 00:16:13,260 --> 00:16:14,555 ANNOUNCER: Pepsi has a new voice... 371 00:16:14,555 --> 00:16:15,766 ANNOUNCER: Britney has Got Milk, 372 00:16:15,766 --> 00:16:17,395 Clairol, and Polaroid. 373 00:16:17,395 --> 00:16:19,272 BRITNEY: I know all the ins and outs of what I'm doing. 374 00:16:19,272 --> 00:16:20,943 I know about all the contracts 375 00:16:20,943 --> 00:16:22,405 and all the deals I'm about to do. 376 00:16:22,405 --> 00:16:24,617 I'm not just some girl who's listening to my manager. 377 00:16:24,617 --> 00:16:26,203 ♪ Oh ♪ 378 00:16:26,203 --> 00:16:28,959 ALL: ♪ I'm not that innocent ♪ 379 00:16:28,959 --> 00:16:30,587 MICHAEL: I mean, I know she's aiming 380 00:16:30,587 --> 00:16:31,965 for the little kids market or whatever. 381 00:16:31,965 --> 00:16:34,595 She needs to back off and put a pair of blue jeans on, 382 00:16:34,595 --> 00:16:36,433 no shoes, and just sing, you know? 383 00:16:36,433 --> 00:16:38,395 INTERVIEWER: To many, you are a contradiction. 384 00:16:38,395 --> 00:16:40,774 On the one hand, you're a sweet, 385 00:16:40,774 --> 00:16:42,653 innocent, virginal type. 386 00:16:42,653 --> 00:16:47,496 On the other hand, you're a sexy vamp in underwear. 387 00:16:47,496 --> 00:16:49,751 ‐ I wouldn't say in underwear. 388 00:16:49,751 --> 00:16:51,463 WESLEY: I mean, the thing that I find fascinating 389 00:16:51,463 --> 00:16:54,427 about Britney Spears' arrival at this moment 390 00:16:54,427 --> 00:16:56,514 is that she comes 391 00:16:56,514 --> 00:16:58,810 in the midst of the Clinton‐Lewinsky scandal. 392 00:16:58,810 --> 00:17:00,481 ANNOUNCER: President Clinton had an affair with... 393 00:17:00,481 --> 00:17:01,983 ANNOUNCER: A sexual relationship 394 00:17:01,983 --> 00:17:04,322 with a former White House intern, Monica Lewinsky. 395 00:17:04,322 --> 00:17:07,828 WESLEY: And it's this really charged moment in the country 396 00:17:07,828 --> 00:17:10,334 where we are talking about sex in a way 397 00:17:10,334 --> 00:17:12,003 that we had never been talking about sex, 398 00:17:12,003 --> 00:17:13,840 or hadn't been for a long time. 399 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:15,803 ‐ See, that brings up the age‐old question for guys. 400 00:17:15,803 --> 00:17:17,598 Who do you want, the nice girl, 401 00:17:17,598 --> 00:17:19,602 the pretty girl you can take home to Mom, 402 00:17:19,602 --> 00:17:21,271 or the cheap, slutty girl you know puts out? 403 00:17:21,271 --> 00:17:23,402 Everybody goes for Monica! 404 00:17:23,402 --> 00:17:28,119 WESLEY: An exponent of that interest in that relationship 405 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:32,001 bled over into our interest in Britney Spears in some way. 406 00:17:32,001 --> 00:17:33,839 HAYLEY: I think a lot of people were, like, 407 00:17:33,839 --> 00:17:37,847 uncomfortable with, you know, her sexuality. 408 00:17:37,847 --> 00:17:40,310 INTERVIEWER: A lot of talk about your sexy Lolita look, 409 00:17:40,310 --> 00:17:42,731 especially after the "Rolling Stones" story. 410 00:17:42,731 --> 00:17:44,318 BRITNEY: Well, I think we're all girls, 411 00:17:44,318 --> 00:17:46,029 and, I mean, it's a part of who we are. 412 00:17:46,029 --> 00:17:48,702 You'd be lying if you said you didn't like to feel sexy. 413 00:17:48,702 --> 00:17:50,539 You know what I mean? You're a girl. 414 00:17:50,539 --> 00:17:51,708 INTERVIEWER: Everyone's talking about it. 415 00:17:51,708 --> 00:17:53,545 ‐ What? 416 00:17:53,545 --> 00:17:57,678 ‐ Well, your breasts. ‐ My breasts? 417 00:17:57,678 --> 00:18:00,517 INTERVIEWER: You seem to get furious when a talk show host 418 00:18:00,517 --> 00:18:02,187 comes up with this subject. 419 00:18:02,187 --> 00:18:03,690 ‐ I'll say this. 420 00:18:03,690 --> 00:18:07,030 You know, I worked with all the boy bands, all of them, 421 00:18:07,030 --> 00:18:10,913 and not one of the boys was ever under any scrutiny. 422 00:18:10,913 --> 00:18:14,211 ‐ It certainly is a paradox, isn't it, the way she works? 423 00:18:14,211 --> 00:18:15,464 HOST: And the way she dresses. 424 00:18:15,464 --> 00:18:17,217 ‐ She doesn't seem that innocent. 425 00:18:17,217 --> 00:18:19,179 HAYLEY: That's when she just really started 426 00:18:19,179 --> 00:18:21,643 becoming more free 427 00:18:21,643 --> 00:18:24,524 and less concerned with pleasing everybody, 428 00:18:24,524 --> 00:18:26,736 which is also, like, a whole 'nother metaphor 429 00:18:26,736 --> 00:18:28,657 for what women do, right? 430 00:18:28,657 --> 00:18:30,159 At some point in our lives, 431 00:18:30,159 --> 00:18:31,579 we stop trying to please everybody. 432 00:18:31,579 --> 00:18:35,169 ‐ Turn the music up. Up. 433 00:18:35,169 --> 00:18:36,589 MAN: You're such a diva, Britney. 434 00:18:36,589 --> 00:18:37,716 ‐ I'm not a diva. MAN: You're such a diva. 435 00:18:37,716 --> 00:18:39,010 ‐ I'm not a diva! 436 00:18:39,010 --> 00:18:40,681 I know what I like, and I know what I want. 437 00:18:40,681 --> 00:18:44,855 KEVIN: She was definitely in control of a lot of decisions. 438 00:18:44,855 --> 00:18:47,193 That idea that Britney is a puppet 439 00:18:47,193 --> 00:18:50,199 who just gets moved around and told what to do 440 00:18:50,199 --> 00:18:52,871 is incredibly inaccurate. 441 00:18:52,871 --> 00:18:56,044 When I was involved in all of those years, 442 00:18:56,044 --> 00:18:58,257 we would present a lot of ideas. 443 00:18:58,257 --> 00:18:59,594 She would have to like them, 444 00:18:59,594 --> 00:19:03,225 and she would have to approve them. 445 00:19:03,225 --> 00:19:04,604 She was very creative. 446 00:19:04,604 --> 00:19:07,610 She was the one who knew what she wanted to do, 447 00:19:07,610 --> 00:19:09,447 and she would make that happen, 448 00:19:09,447 --> 00:19:11,659 or her people would make that happen for her. 449 00:19:11,659 --> 00:19:13,078 That's how I got hired, 450 00:19:13,078 --> 00:19:14,915 is because she just told somebody, 451 00:19:14,915 --> 00:19:16,419 "No, I want him to do it." 452 00:19:16,419 --> 00:19:18,297 And it happened within an hour. 453 00:19:18,297 --> 00:19:19,759 Okay, that's a no. 454 00:19:19,759 --> 00:19:21,346 She was the boss. 455 00:19:21,346 --> 00:19:24,352 ‐ [screaming] 456 00:19:25,269 --> 00:19:29,194 That is gonna be fucking cool every night, man. 457 00:19:29,194 --> 00:19:31,574 That's gonna... 458 00:19:35,540 --> 00:19:37,293 ‐ You just‐‐ 459 00:19:38,087 --> 00:19:40,801 ‐ Well, you just‐‐that's why I am where I am today, 460 00:19:40,801 --> 00:19:43,055 is because I do have control, you know? 461 00:19:43,055 --> 00:19:45,477 And you just‐‐you just control what you do. 462 00:19:45,477 --> 00:19:47,063 You know, you have to. 463 00:19:47,063 --> 00:19:50,320 Otherwise, you get sucked in by people that are not necessary. 464 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,658 [crowd screaming] 465 00:19:52,658 --> 00:19:54,662 I'm just doing my thing right now, 466 00:19:54,662 --> 00:19:55,997 just, you know, having fun. 467 00:19:55,997 --> 00:19:57,543 WESLEY: We don't have royalty here. 468 00:19:57,543 --> 00:19:59,714 We've got‐‐we've got famous people. 469 00:19:59,714 --> 00:20:01,174 What was interesting about 470 00:20:01,174 --> 00:20:02,511 the Britney Spears‐Justin Timberlake relationship 471 00:20:02,511 --> 00:20:06,101 was that we hadn't really had a kind of, 472 00:20:06,101 --> 00:20:09,483 you know, American couple in a minute. 473 00:20:09,483 --> 00:20:11,487 ‐ He said I love you to you when you‐‐ 474 00:20:11,487 --> 00:20:12,823 ‐ He did. I know, I saw. 475 00:20:12,823 --> 00:20:14,368 LIZ: And when they got together, 476 00:20:14,368 --> 00:20:15,996 I think a lot of people thought 477 00:20:15,996 --> 00:20:17,541 it was just totally perfect, 478 00:20:17,541 --> 00:20:19,002 and they wanted to know everything 479 00:20:19,002 --> 00:20:20,839 about their relationship. 480 00:20:20,839 --> 00:20:23,010 ‐ Am I a virgin? 481 00:20:23,010 --> 00:20:25,766 [laughter] 482 00:20:25,766 --> 00:20:28,020 [delicate music] 483 00:20:28,020 --> 00:20:29,815 Um, yes, I am a virgin, 484 00:20:29,815 --> 00:20:32,362 and I definitely wanna try and have sex till I'm married. 485 00:20:32,362 --> 00:20:35,702 I just wanna wait for that special someone, so... 486 00:20:35,702 --> 00:20:38,123 [quietly] Thank you. 487 00:20:38,123 --> 00:20:40,837 DAVE: They break up. 488 00:20:40,837 --> 00:20:44,260 Justin sort of made it seem, 489 00:20:44,260 --> 00:20:46,849 rightly or wrongly, like she had cheated on him. 490 00:20:46,849 --> 00:20:51,359 It really seemed like he took control of the narrative. 491 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:55,074 WESLEY: The way that people treated her, 492 00:20:55,074 --> 00:20:56,661 to be very high school about it, 493 00:20:56,661 --> 00:21:00,335 was, like, she was the school slut, 494 00:21:00,335 --> 00:21:02,714 and he was, like, 495 00:21:02,714 --> 00:21:04,385 the school quarterback or whatever, 496 00:21:04,385 --> 00:21:07,933 and he essentially weaponizes the video 497 00:21:07,933 --> 00:21:12,108 for one of his singles to incriminate her 498 00:21:12,108 --> 00:21:13,862 in the demise of the relationship. 499 00:21:13,862 --> 00:21:15,740 ‐ ♪ Tell me you love me ♪ 500 00:21:15,740 --> 00:21:18,746 ♪ Why did you leave me all alone? ♪ 501 00:21:18,746 --> 00:21:20,750 [song slows, stops] 502 00:21:20,750 --> 00:21:24,425 ‐ It was a revenge, pure male revenge fantasy. 503 00:21:24,425 --> 00:21:26,052 STAR: Justin Timberlake is in the house, 504 00:21:26,052 --> 00:21:27,806 and I just wanna ask you one question. 505 00:21:27,806 --> 00:21:29,727 Did you [bleep] Britney Spears? 506 00:21:29,727 --> 00:21:31,731 [laughter] 507 00:21:31,731 --> 00:21:33,066 Yes or no? 508 00:21:33,066 --> 00:21:34,235 JUSTIN: Oh, man. STAR: Come on, man. 509 00:21:34,235 --> 00:21:36,490 JUSTIN: Okay, I did it. STAR: Yeah! 510 00:21:36,490 --> 00:21:38,578 ‐ Well, you know, misogyny. I don't know. 511 00:21:38,578 --> 00:21:39,997 What can you say about misogyny? 512 00:21:39,997 --> 00:21:43,045 There's a whole infrastructure to support it, 513 00:21:43,045 --> 00:21:48,055 and when it's time for people to come, 514 00:21:48,055 --> 00:21:51,019 in a misogynistic culture, for a woman, 515 00:21:51,019 --> 00:21:53,983 there's a whole apparatus ready to do it. 516 00:21:53,983 --> 00:21:56,989 [soft melancholy music] 517 00:21:56,989 --> 00:22:02,124 ♪ ♪ 518 00:22:02,124 --> 00:22:04,797 DIANE: I have to ask a couple of things about Justin. 519 00:22:04,797 --> 00:22:06,801 ‐ Okay, of course. 520 00:22:06,801 --> 00:22:08,763 ‐ He has gone on television 521 00:22:08,763 --> 00:22:12,980 and pretty much said you broke his heart, 522 00:22:12,980 --> 00:22:18,115 you did something that caused him so much pain, 523 00:22:18,115 --> 00:22:20,244 so much suffering. 524 00:22:20,244 --> 00:22:21,622 What did you do? 525 00:22:21,622 --> 00:22:23,751 KEVIN: Her image was being painted as, 526 00:22:23,751 --> 00:22:27,592 "Oh, what did you do to cause the breakup? 527 00:22:27,592 --> 00:22:30,974 You must have done something, not him." 528 00:22:30,974 --> 00:22:32,477 ‐ Britney Spears has upset 529 00:22:32,477 --> 00:22:34,314 a lot of mothers in this country, 530 00:22:34,314 --> 00:22:36,819 starting with the wife of the governor of Maryland. 531 00:22:41,662 --> 00:22:43,416 ‐ Oh, that's horrible. 532 00:22:43,416 --> 00:22:45,336 DIANE: Well, she‐‐ ‐ That's really bad. 533 00:22:45,336 --> 00:22:46,672 ‐ Because of the example for kids 534 00:22:46,672 --> 00:22:48,133 and how hard it is to be a parent. 535 00:22:48,133 --> 00:22:50,764 ‐ Well, that's really sad that she said that. 536 00:22:50,764 --> 00:22:52,058 Ew. 537 00:22:52,058 --> 00:22:57,193 I'm not here to, you know, babysit her kids. 538 00:22:57,193 --> 00:23:02,829 ‐ There's just that invisible line that seemed to exist then 539 00:23:02,829 --> 00:23:06,002 that nobody knew how to handle, 540 00:23:06,002 --> 00:23:08,674 and nobody knew how to help her handle it. 541 00:23:08,674 --> 00:23:11,847 ‐ You've had a year that would test a lot of people. 542 00:23:11,847 --> 00:23:15,563 ‐ It was pretty rough, yeah. Um... 543 00:23:15,563 --> 00:23:18,193 Oh, my goodness, hello. 544 00:23:18,193 --> 00:23:21,325 Ew. Strong Britney. 545 00:23:21,325 --> 00:23:25,875 Um, yeah, it was a weird time. 546 00:23:27,211 --> 00:23:29,048 Ew, I'm embarrassed. 547 00:23:29,048 --> 00:23:31,470 Can we stop this? 548 00:23:37,816 --> 00:23:38,943 ‐ Don't you think it's something 549 00:23:38,943 --> 00:23:40,070 you really want to do all the time, 550 00:23:40,070 --> 00:23:42,032 to be onstage, dancing and singing? 551 00:23:42,032 --> 00:23:45,498 ‐ I do that for fun. That's not my life, you know? 552 00:23:45,498 --> 00:23:48,796 I see myself in the future with my kids and my husband, 553 00:23:48,796 --> 00:23:53,306 and maybe do this on the side. 554 00:23:53,306 --> 00:23:56,144 Okay, I wanna introduce you guys to my friend, Kevin. 555 00:23:56,144 --> 00:23:58,231 He's so cute. 556 00:23:58,231 --> 00:24:00,904 Hi. 557 00:24:00,904 --> 00:24:02,699 I feel like I've been missing out. 558 00:24:02,699 --> 00:24:04,076 ‐ Okay. 559 00:24:04,076 --> 00:24:06,080 ‐ I feel like I've been missing out on life. 560 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,419 ‐ Like, what part of life? ‐ Life. 561 00:24:08,419 --> 00:24:10,924 ‐ I don't think I was at all surprised 562 00:24:10,924 --> 00:24:13,053 when she and Kevin got engaged. 563 00:24:13,053 --> 00:24:15,182 ANNOUNCER: The announcement of Britney's sudden engagement 564 00:24:15,182 --> 00:24:16,852 had the whole country talking. 565 00:24:16,852 --> 00:24:20,025 ‐ She told me, and then I remember her saying, 566 00:24:20,025 --> 00:24:21,570 "I gotta call my mama," 567 00:24:21,570 --> 00:24:23,532 and I'm like, "Absolutely you do." 568 00:24:23,532 --> 00:24:24,868 ANNOUNCER: But what do they think about this guy, 569 00:24:24,868 --> 00:24:26,120 Kevin Federline, first of all? 570 00:24:26,120 --> 00:24:27,582 JESS: Well, Lynne Spears says 571 00:24:27,582 --> 00:24:29,753 that the two have good karma together. 572 00:24:29,753 --> 00:24:31,089 LORA: According to reports, 573 00:24:31,089 --> 00:24:32,926 the house you see behind me here in Studio City 574 00:24:32,926 --> 00:24:35,598 is where Britney Spears tied the knot Saturday night. 575 00:24:35,598 --> 00:24:39,021 [crowd screaming] 576 00:24:39,021 --> 00:24:41,443 [dramatic music] 577 00:24:41,443 --> 00:24:43,531 ♪ ♪ 578 00:24:43,531 --> 00:24:45,368 ‐ My name is Brittain Stone, and I was 579 00:24:45,368 --> 00:24:48,123 the photography director of "Us Weekly" 580 00:24:48,123 --> 00:24:49,918 for about a decade. 581 00:24:49,918 --> 00:24:51,588 When I had a really healthy budget, 582 00:24:51,588 --> 00:24:54,428 it'd be $140,000 a week on imagery. 583 00:24:54,428 --> 00:24:58,436 Extrapolate that over the year, you know, $7 to 8 million, 584 00:24:58,436 --> 00:25:00,440 but, you know, spending millions of dollars 585 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,610 on pictures, that just, you know, 586 00:25:02,610 --> 00:25:05,073 quintupled the amount of money that was out there, 587 00:25:05,073 --> 00:25:07,286 which meant there were a lot more photographers 588 00:25:07,286 --> 00:25:10,460 coming in and doing it. 589 00:25:10,460 --> 00:25:12,797 DANIEL: I never wanted to be considered a paparazzi. 590 00:25:12,797 --> 00:25:15,303 I've always wanted to be a filmmaker, 591 00:25:15,303 --> 00:25:17,766 but it sucks you right in, and there's‐‐ 592 00:25:17,766 --> 00:25:20,480 it's hard to get out of it once you start making 593 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,986 the kind of moneys that these guys were making. 594 00:25:23,986 --> 00:25:25,615 ANNOUNCER: Photos of Britney can sell 595 00:25:25,615 --> 00:25:27,494 for up to $1 million each. 596 00:25:27,494 --> 00:25:29,664 [ambient music] 597 00:25:29,664 --> 00:25:31,418 ♪ ♪ 598 00:25:31,418 --> 00:25:32,837 ‐ Guys, be nice. Guys, be nice. 599 00:25:32,837 --> 00:25:34,591 Everybody's gonna get their shot. 600 00:25:34,591 --> 00:25:35,802 DANIEL: In the beginning, 601 00:25:35,802 --> 00:25:38,098 when paparazzis were following Britney, 602 00:25:38,098 --> 00:25:39,935 you could tell she enjoyed it. 603 00:25:39,935 --> 00:25:42,440 [indistinct chatter] 604 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,235 PAPARAZZO: Britney, talk to me, baby girl. 605 00:25:44,235 --> 00:25:47,282 DANIEL: She would give it up, the shots, waving. 606 00:25:47,282 --> 00:25:52,669 She was very friendly, a sweetheart of a girl. 607 00:25:52,669 --> 00:25:54,464 It was like she needed us, and we needed her. 608 00:25:54,464 --> 00:25:56,343 We both needed each other, 609 00:25:56,343 --> 00:25:58,597 and it was a great kind of relationship. 610 00:25:58,597 --> 00:25:59,975 ‐ There's a party at my house. 611 00:25:59,975 --> 00:26:01,478 PAPARAZZO: All right, let's go, let's go! 612 00:26:01,478 --> 00:26:03,691 ‐ Yeah, Britney, let's do it! PAPARAZZO: Yeah! 613 00:26:03,691 --> 00:26:04,985 PAPARAZZO: Thank you, Britney. 614 00:26:04,985 --> 00:26:06,488 We love you, man, for sure. 615 00:26:06,488 --> 00:26:09,201 ‐ Well, there was always a little bit of a hunger 616 00:26:09,201 --> 00:26:12,667 for the unposed photographs. 617 00:26:12,667 --> 00:26:14,838 BRITNEY: Sometimes people's‐‐ their‐‐ 618 00:26:14,838 --> 00:26:16,341 you know, their personal life 619 00:26:16,341 --> 00:26:18,512 becomes bigger than their work. 620 00:26:18,512 --> 00:26:22,520 ‐ As we had more of that kind of material in the magazine, 621 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,900 you know, the sales just went up. 622 00:26:24,900 --> 00:26:27,237 ELLEN: Britney Spears and Kevin Federline! 623 00:26:27,237 --> 00:26:29,033 LIZ: Britney then makes an announcement 624 00:26:29,033 --> 00:26:30,912 that attracts even more paparazzi. 625 00:26:30,912 --> 00:26:33,208 ‐ And now, the baby, that's very exciting. 626 00:26:33,208 --> 00:26:35,295 Now, you have to be really excited about that. 627 00:26:35,295 --> 00:26:37,800 ‐ Yes, ma'am. ‐ The last‐‐yeah. 628 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,222 [cheers and applause] 629 00:26:41,975 --> 00:26:43,395 You don't look pregnant. 630 00:26:43,395 --> 00:26:46,234 DANIEL: Once she started having her kid 631 00:26:46,234 --> 00:26:48,697 with Kevin Federline, 632 00:26:48,697 --> 00:26:50,242 it exploded. 633 00:26:51,912 --> 00:26:54,751 ‐ Keep him‐‐keep him in line. Keep him back. 634 00:26:54,751 --> 00:26:56,838 DANIEL: Everyone wanted a piece of Britney. 635 00:26:56,838 --> 00:26:58,384 The tabloids were paying a lot of money. 636 00:26:58,384 --> 00:27:00,220 ‐ Back away now. 637 00:27:00,220 --> 00:27:01,807 ‐ We wanna know what she's buying. 638 00:27:01,807 --> 00:27:04,896 ‐ We're "People Magazine." WOMAN: Oh, okay. 639 00:27:04,896 --> 00:27:07,902 ‐ And almost immediately, there's the perception 640 00:27:07,902 --> 00:27:10,783 from the tabloids that Britney is an unfit mother. 641 00:27:10,783 --> 00:27:12,286 ‐ Pop star Britney Spears 642 00:27:12,286 --> 00:27:13,914 is defending her actions this morning 643 00:27:13,914 --> 00:27:16,252 after photos surfaced of her driving 644 00:27:16,252 --> 00:27:18,590 with her infant son in her lap on Monday. 645 00:27:18,590 --> 00:27:20,928 ‐ The headline of "The New York Post" yesterday, 646 00:27:20,928 --> 00:27:23,434 Britney tripping outside a New York hotel Thursday 647 00:27:23,434 --> 00:27:25,980 while holding her eight‐month‐old son in one hand 648 00:27:25,980 --> 00:27:28,151 and a glass of water in the other. 649 00:27:28,151 --> 00:27:29,946 ‐ Britney Spears is on the hot seat. 650 00:27:29,946 --> 00:27:32,952 [soft dramatic music] 651 00:27:32,952 --> 00:27:39,214 ♪ ♪ 652 00:27:39,214 --> 00:27:40,593 MATT: You were photographed, I guess, 653 00:27:40,593 --> 00:27:43,390 by the paparazzi again, pursuing you. 654 00:27:43,390 --> 00:27:46,605 And there was Sean on your lap in the car. 655 00:27:46,605 --> 00:27:47,857 ‐ Yeah. 656 00:27:47,857 --> 00:27:49,694 ‐ Take me through what happened there. 657 00:27:49,694 --> 00:27:51,072 ‐ I went to Starbucks, 658 00:27:51,072 --> 00:27:52,950 and I see a bunch of photographers, and I'm scared, 659 00:27:52,950 --> 00:27:54,286 and I wanna get out of the situation, 660 00:27:54,286 --> 00:27:55,915 and my baby's crying. 661 00:27:55,915 --> 00:27:59,464 They're coming up on the‐‐ you know, the sides of the car, 662 00:27:59,464 --> 00:28:01,927 which is a scary situation for me, you know? 663 00:28:01,927 --> 00:28:03,764 And they're banging on the windows, 664 00:28:03,764 --> 00:28:07,855 and that's not something I want my baby to‐‐you know‐‐ 665 00:28:07,855 --> 00:28:10,276 so I get my baby out of the car, and I go home. 666 00:28:10,276 --> 00:28:13,659 So I mean‐‐and I just feel like they're taking cheap shots. 667 00:28:13,659 --> 00:28:15,955 [soft ambient music] 668 00:28:15,955 --> 00:28:18,000 ♪ ♪ 669 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,631 MATT: We've got all these legitimate people weighing in, 670 00:28:20,631 --> 00:28:23,470 saying, "You know what? That's dangerous, 671 00:28:23,470 --> 00:28:25,433 and she put her child at risk." 672 00:28:25,433 --> 00:28:28,020 You saw the questions that were being asked: 673 00:28:28,020 --> 00:28:30,108 "Is Britney a bad mom?" 674 00:28:30,108 --> 00:28:32,989 ‐ Mm‐hmm. That's America for you. 675 00:28:32,989 --> 00:28:35,160 [laughs] 676 00:28:36,663 --> 00:28:39,001 LIZ: Britney has two kids almost back‐to‐back. 677 00:28:39,001 --> 00:28:40,838 She has her second baby 678 00:28:40,838 --> 00:28:44,011 just about a year after having her first baby. 679 00:28:44,011 --> 00:28:46,182 There's a lot of speculation over whether 680 00:28:46,182 --> 00:28:48,479 Britney and Kevin have marital problems, 681 00:28:48,479 --> 00:28:50,273 and then a few weeks after giving birth 682 00:28:50,273 --> 00:28:54,657 to her second child, she files for divorce. 683 00:28:54,657 --> 00:28:58,206 Britney files for sole custody of their two kids. 684 00:28:58,206 --> 00:29:01,546 The very next day, Kevin files for sole custody himself. 685 00:29:03,717 --> 00:29:06,598 And in her book, Britney's mother, Lynne, 686 00:29:06,598 --> 00:29:08,017 writes that she thinks Britney was suffering 687 00:29:08,017 --> 00:29:11,232 from postpartum depression. 688 00:29:11,232 --> 00:29:14,531 ‐ You know, the main thing that people became fascinated with 689 00:29:14,531 --> 00:29:15,866 was her sort of unraveling. 690 00:29:15,866 --> 00:29:18,204 Fascinating to not just, you know, 691 00:29:18,204 --> 00:29:19,666 your typical celebrity fan base, 692 00:29:19,666 --> 00:29:21,043 but just to anyone. 693 00:29:21,043 --> 00:29:23,256 MAN: Let him through. 694 00:29:23,256 --> 00:29:25,386 ANNOUNCER: Britney and Paris hooked up 695 00:29:25,386 --> 00:29:27,431 with party girl Lindsay Lohan. 696 00:29:27,431 --> 00:29:29,017 PAPARAZZO: There we go. PAPARAZZO: There we go. 697 00:29:29,017 --> 00:29:31,356 JOE: She's basically starting to lose interest 698 00:29:31,356 --> 00:29:34,362 in the very carefully‐managed image 699 00:29:34,362 --> 00:29:36,198 of Britney Spears as a pop star, 700 00:29:36,198 --> 00:29:37,910 and at the same time... 701 00:29:37,910 --> 00:29:39,539 ‐ Hey, we can't see, guys. 702 00:29:39,539 --> 00:29:41,000 JOE: That tabloid culture, 703 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:42,587 they're reaching the height of their power. 704 00:29:42,587 --> 00:29:44,256 ANNOUNCER: Britney Spears must be paying 705 00:29:44,256 --> 00:29:46,553 the babysitter overtime. 706 00:29:46,553 --> 00:29:48,390 ‐ The goal is not to sort of‐‐ 707 00:29:48,390 --> 00:29:51,396 with these kinds of imagery, be negative about people. 708 00:29:51,396 --> 00:29:54,902 It was to enjoy their lives 709 00:29:54,902 --> 00:29:58,242 in a somewhat aspirational/relatable way. 710 00:30:01,081 --> 00:30:02,460 PAPARAZZO: Oh. 711 00:30:02,460 --> 00:30:03,920 GUARD: Watch out, watch out. PAPARAZZO: Whoa, guys. 712 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,841 GUARD: Let her out. GUARD: Come on, go, back up. 713 00:30:05,841 --> 00:30:08,012 BOTH: Back up, back up, back up. 714 00:30:08,012 --> 00:30:10,266 GUARD: Let her out, let her out, let her out. 715 00:30:10,266 --> 00:30:13,315 GUARD: Let her walk. 716 00:30:13,315 --> 00:30:15,234 CLERK: Watch your step, guys. 717 00:30:15,234 --> 00:30:17,072 Breaking everything! 718 00:30:17,072 --> 00:30:18,408 GUARD: Move back. 719 00:30:18,408 --> 00:30:19,827 PAPARAZZO: Are you okay, Britney? 720 00:30:19,827 --> 00:30:21,498 PAPARAZZO: Come this way, Britney. 721 00:30:21,498 --> 00:30:22,917 PAPARAZZO: Over here, Britney, your car's here. 722 00:30:22,917 --> 00:30:24,337 PAPARAZZO: You okay, Britney? 723 00:30:24,337 --> 00:30:26,131 GUARD: You need to move. You need to move. 724 00:30:26,131 --> 00:30:27,968 PAPARAZZO: Careful. FAN: Britney! 725 00:30:27,968 --> 00:30:29,430 FAN: I feel you! 726 00:30:29,430 --> 00:30:32,102 They shouldn't harass you like that, Britney Spears. 727 00:30:32,102 --> 00:30:33,605 GUARD: Let her out, let her out, let her out! 728 00:30:33,605 --> 00:30:35,609 PAPARAZZO: Hi, Britney, how you doing today? 729 00:30:35,609 --> 00:30:36,903 You look gorgeous. 730 00:30:36,903 --> 00:30:38,155 GUARD: Come on, man. 731 00:30:38,155 --> 00:30:40,577 Hey, move it! stop, stop, stop it! 732 00:30:40,577 --> 00:30:42,288 PAPARAZZO: Relax, relax. 733 00:30:42,288 --> 00:30:44,627 ‐ Hey, hey, really‐‐ what the fuck, man? 734 00:30:44,627 --> 00:30:47,883 Stop it, stop it! Fuck, stop! 735 00:30:47,883 --> 00:30:49,470 ‐ Hey! ‐ Stop it! 736 00:30:49,470 --> 00:30:52,309 [shouting over each other] 737 00:30:53,060 --> 00:30:54,731 GUARD: Let her out. Come on! 738 00:30:54,731 --> 00:30:55,816 Come on! 739 00:30:55,816 --> 00:30:58,655 [indistinct chatter] 740 00:30:58,655 --> 00:31:00,241 ‐ Please don't fight. I'm scared. 741 00:31:00,241 --> 00:31:01,661 I'm scared, I'm scared, I'm scared. 742 00:31:01,661 --> 00:31:03,665 Where's the door? 743 00:31:03,665 --> 00:31:05,084 GUARD: Back it up, back it up, back it up. 744 00:31:05,084 --> 00:31:07,506 Let her in, let her in. 745 00:31:07,506 --> 00:31:10,637 GUARD: Go, move, move! Guys, let's go, move out! 746 00:31:10,637 --> 00:31:14,312 [faint indistinct chatter] 747 00:31:19,489 --> 00:31:21,493 ‐ Why are you so close to my car? 748 00:31:21,493 --> 00:31:22,828 MATT: What do you think it'll take 749 00:31:22,828 --> 00:31:24,832 to get the paparazzi to leave you alone? 750 00:31:26,669 --> 00:31:30,134 ‐ Um, I don't know. 751 00:31:30,134 --> 00:31:33,642 I don't know. 752 00:31:33,642 --> 00:31:36,648 [soft dramatic music] 753 00:31:36,648 --> 00:31:38,652 ♪ ♪ 754 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,501 MATT: Is that one of your biggest wishes? 755 00:31:51,302 --> 00:31:54,350 ‐ [sobs] Yeah. 756 00:31:54,350 --> 00:31:56,270 [engine turns] 757 00:31:56,270 --> 00:31:59,276 [light tense music] 758 00:31:59,276 --> 00:32:03,660 ♪ ♪ 759 00:32:03,660 --> 00:32:06,875 ‐ Come on, guys. ‐ Hey, hey. 760 00:32:06,875 --> 00:32:09,212 DON: We will turn now to a story 761 00:32:09,212 --> 00:32:10,966 that is burning up the Internet. 762 00:32:10,966 --> 00:32:12,135 It's just burning this morning. 763 00:32:12,135 --> 00:32:13,388 ‐ Everybody's talking about it. ‐ Yes. 764 00:32:13,388 --> 00:32:14,849 Britney Spears, she's bald. 765 00:32:14,849 --> 00:32:17,855 [soft melancholy music] 766 00:32:17,855 --> 00:32:19,274 HAIRDRESSER: She came in, and she said 767 00:32:19,274 --> 00:32:20,903 she wanted her head shaved. 768 00:32:20,903 --> 00:32:22,448 The hairdresser refused, 769 00:32:22,448 --> 00:32:25,370 so she literally grabbed her‐‐ 770 00:32:25,370 --> 00:32:28,919 the hair clipper and started doing it herself. 771 00:32:28,919 --> 00:32:31,298 And she said, "I don't want anyone touching me. 772 00:32:31,298 --> 00:32:34,095 I'm tired of everybody touching me." 773 00:32:34,095 --> 00:32:37,018 ♪ ♪ 774 00:32:37,018 --> 00:32:38,730 KIM: It's so easy. 775 00:32:38,730 --> 00:32:42,571 It's so much fun to take a celebrity 776 00:32:42,571 --> 00:32:45,284 who's a young, beautiful, talented girl 777 00:32:45,284 --> 00:32:46,913 and rip her to shreds. 778 00:32:46,913 --> 00:32:50,044 DAVID: It was so cold, Britney Spears had a chapped head. 779 00:32:50,044 --> 00:32:51,589 JAY: Friends say this is the craziest thing 780 00:32:51,589 --> 00:32:53,385 Britney's ever done that didn't involve marriage. 781 00:32:53,385 --> 00:32:54,929 It's unbelievable. 782 00:32:54,929 --> 00:32:57,266 WESLEY: And so she's saying, essentially, 783 00:32:57,266 --> 00:33:00,399 with no hair, "I quit. 784 00:33:00,399 --> 00:33:03,947 "Whatever you guys are looking for in terms of me coming back 785 00:33:03,947 --> 00:33:05,701 "and being that person again, I'm not‐‐ 786 00:33:05,701 --> 00:33:07,955 "that person is gone, and you have‐‐ 787 00:33:07,955 --> 00:33:09,458 you have destroyed her." 788 00:33:09,458 --> 00:33:12,088 [indistinct chatter] 789 00:33:12,088 --> 00:33:13,717 The idea that people could look at that 790 00:33:13,717 --> 00:33:16,889 and only see a crazy person, well, just‐‐ 791 00:33:16,889 --> 00:33:19,395 that just tells me that‐‐ you know, 792 00:33:19,395 --> 00:33:23,778 what a‐‐ what a vulturous society 793 00:33:23,778 --> 00:33:26,074 she was working with to begin with. 794 00:33:35,092 --> 00:33:36,846 FAN: Hi, Britney. FAN: Hey, Britney. 795 00:33:36,846 --> 00:33:38,349 DANIEL: It definitely gives me 796 00:33:38,349 --> 00:33:40,645 a different perspective of it now, you know, 797 00:33:40,645 --> 00:33:43,150 especially after so many years. 798 00:33:43,150 --> 00:33:44,862 When you're caught up into that whole thing, 799 00:33:44,862 --> 00:33:46,324 in that spider web, 800 00:33:46,324 --> 00:33:50,415 you don't really see what the celebrity is going through. 801 00:33:50,415 --> 00:33:53,421 [dramatic music] 802 00:33:53,421 --> 00:33:57,763 ♪ ♪ 803 00:33:57,763 --> 00:33:59,934 Roberto calls me up, and he goes, 804 00:33:59,934 --> 00:34:02,815 "Dano, don't call anyone. 805 00:34:02,815 --> 00:34:05,821 "Get your camera, your video camera over here, 806 00:34:05,821 --> 00:34:07,908 "and maybe you can get this, that I'm‐‐ 807 00:34:07,908 --> 00:34:10,497 that I'm getting Britney Spears by myself." 808 00:34:11,457 --> 00:34:13,837 I caught up eventually with him, 809 00:34:13,837 --> 00:34:17,678 and she was going out visiting Kevin Federline at his home. 810 00:34:17,678 --> 00:34:19,348 The kids meant the world to Britney, 811 00:34:19,348 --> 00:34:23,021 and she wanted to see her kids, and Kevin said no. 812 00:34:25,151 --> 00:34:27,196 They went to a gas station. 813 00:34:27,196 --> 00:34:31,414 She was with her cousin, Alli. 814 00:34:31,414 --> 00:34:33,877 I looked at Britney from the windshield, 815 00:34:33,877 --> 00:34:35,755 and I was videotaping her, and I said... 816 00:34:45,984 --> 00:34:48,030 ♪ ♪ 817 00:34:48,030 --> 00:34:51,119 We go back to Kevin Federline's house. 818 00:34:51,119 --> 00:34:53,833 She buzzes the door again. 819 00:34:53,833 --> 00:34:57,508 He doesn't open the gate. Well, now she's upset. 820 00:35:01,056 --> 00:35:05,315 So they pull up behind a Jiffy Lube store. 821 00:35:07,026 --> 00:35:10,742 I tell Britney, "Hey, Britney, all I'm gonna do 822 00:35:10,742 --> 00:35:13,665 "is I'm just gonna ask you a couple of questions, 823 00:35:13,665 --> 00:35:15,377 and then I'm gonna leave you alone." 824 00:35:15,377 --> 00:35:16,587 And Alli's coming up to me, 825 00:35:16,587 --> 00:35:17,756 and she's like, "Guys, please, please." 826 00:35:17,756 --> 00:35:19,259 ALLI: Please, guys, don't. 827 00:35:19,259 --> 00:35:20,762 Guys, please. Please, guys, don't do this. 828 00:35:20,762 --> 00:35:22,558 DANIEL: And Britney just grabbed the umbrella, 829 00:35:22,558 --> 00:35:25,772 started coming after me, and starts beating 830 00:35:25,772 --> 00:35:28,903 the passenger side of my truck. 831 00:35:28,903 --> 00:35:31,199 BRITNEY: [indistinct shouting] 832 00:35:31,199 --> 00:35:35,875 Fuck you! Fuck yourself. 833 00:35:35,875 --> 00:35:38,756 MAN: Hey, you gonna get in trouble for that. 834 00:35:38,756 --> 00:35:42,221 DANIEL: That night was not a good night for her. 835 00:35:42,221 --> 00:35:43,808 WOMAN: Oh, wow, she did that too? 836 00:35:43,808 --> 00:35:45,604 DANIEL: And it was not a good night for us. 837 00:35:45,604 --> 00:35:48,610 WOMAN: Oh, my God. 838 00:35:49,152 --> 00:35:50,447 ‐ But it was a good night for us 839 00:35:50,447 --> 00:35:52,283 'cause it was a money shot. 840 00:35:52,283 --> 00:35:55,289 [tense music] 841 00:35:55,289 --> 00:35:59,130 ♪ ♪ 842 00:35:59,130 --> 00:36:00,467 INTERVIEWER: Do you think the paparazzi 843 00:36:00,467 --> 00:36:03,931 being around affected her at all? 844 00:36:03,931 --> 00:36:06,937 ‐ I don't really think and I don't really believe 845 00:36:06,937 --> 00:36:10,862 because‐‐you know, working on her for so many years, 846 00:36:10,862 --> 00:36:16,289 she never gave a clue or information to us that, 847 00:36:16,289 --> 00:36:20,799 "I don't appreciate you guys. Leave me the eff alone." 848 00:36:20,799 --> 00:36:23,638 INTERVIEWER: What about when she said, "Leave me alone"? 849 00:36:23,638 --> 00:36:24,932 ‐ There were times where she's like, 850 00:36:24,932 --> 00:36:27,269 "Can you leave me alone for the day?" 851 00:36:27,269 --> 00:36:29,023 But it wasn't like, "Leave me alone forever," 852 00:36:29,023 --> 00:36:31,654 you know what I mean? 853 00:36:31,654 --> 00:36:33,324 HOST: The shaving of the head, 854 00:36:33,324 --> 00:36:35,870 the umbrella scene with the paparazzi, 855 00:36:35,870 --> 00:36:39,168 stints in rehab where she blames you for that, 856 00:36:39,168 --> 00:36:42,174 and your relationship with her begins to dissolve. 857 00:36:42,174 --> 00:36:44,680 What is happening to your family at that point? 858 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,017 LYNNE: It was so crazy at that time. 859 00:36:47,017 --> 00:36:49,188 I don't think anybody was even trying to sit 860 00:36:49,188 --> 00:36:50,692 and think of what was going on. 861 00:36:50,692 --> 00:36:52,863 We were just trying to do what we could do at that moment, 862 00:36:52,863 --> 00:36:54,324 at that time, 863 00:36:54,324 --> 00:36:58,458 and we were praying very hard because it seemed like 864 00:36:58,458 --> 00:37:01,296 we had no control over anything that was happening. 865 00:37:01,296 --> 00:37:04,303 [dramatic music] 866 00:37:04,303 --> 00:37:07,517 ♪ ♪ 867 00:37:07,517 --> 00:37:09,270 WESLEY: She fired her longtime manager. 868 00:37:09,270 --> 00:37:10,607 She's grown very estranged 869 00:37:10,607 --> 00:37:12,234 from various members of her family. 870 00:37:12,234 --> 00:37:14,823 LIZ: More and more we've heard how she's very alienated, 871 00:37:14,823 --> 00:37:16,952 that she will try to befriend almost anyone. 872 00:37:16,952 --> 00:37:20,209 I mean, she's just desperately seeking friendship. 873 00:37:20,209 --> 00:37:23,131 ANNOUNCER: If you're asking, "Who is Sam Lutfi?" 874 00:37:23,131 --> 00:37:25,052 he is the latest in a long line 875 00:37:25,052 --> 00:37:28,392 of the mysterious men in Britney's life. 876 00:37:28,392 --> 00:37:31,524 JOE: Sam Lutfi just sort of came out of nowhere. 877 00:37:31,524 --> 00:37:33,151 ‐ You guys, further apart please. 878 00:37:33,151 --> 00:37:38,704 ‐ He's one of these self‐invented guru types 879 00:37:38,704 --> 00:37:42,379 who is constantly attaching himself to celebrities, 880 00:37:42,379 --> 00:37:44,550 often at vulnerable moments for them. 881 00:37:44,550 --> 00:37:46,345 HOST: We're on the air at KIIS FM. 882 00:37:46,345 --> 00:37:48,891 BRITNEY: Hi. HOST: Good morning, Britney. 883 00:37:48,891 --> 00:37:50,520 Today, the album's been out for a day or so. 884 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,147 What will you do? 885 00:37:52,147 --> 00:37:53,568 Will you promote the album? What are you gonna be doing? 886 00:37:53,568 --> 00:37:55,153 SAM: This is it. HOST: This is it? 887 00:37:55,153 --> 00:37:57,409 SAM: Doing all these calls. HOST: This is the promotion? 888 00:37:57,409 --> 00:38:02,878 ‐ Sam was her sort of advisor, trying to be her manager. 889 00:38:02,878 --> 00:38:05,842 HOST: You've obviously been aware of the conversation 890 00:38:05,842 --> 00:38:08,221 about your kids. How often will you see them? 891 00:38:08,221 --> 00:38:11,979 BRITNEY: Oh, we want, um, my lawyers to do all that stuff. 892 00:38:11,979 --> 00:38:14,191 SAM: Talk about fun stuff. BRITNEY: Yeah. 893 00:38:14,191 --> 00:38:15,737 HOST: Okay, Sam, what do you wanna talk about? 894 00:38:15,737 --> 00:38:19,494 ‐ So Sam Lutfi was basically, you know, seen by her parents 895 00:38:19,494 --> 00:38:23,669 as the architect of a lot of Britney's downfall. 896 00:38:23,669 --> 00:38:25,255 PAPARAZZO: Let's go. Let's go. 897 00:38:25,255 --> 00:38:26,926 GUEST: Shaved her head, attacked the paparazzi, 898 00:38:26,926 --> 00:38:28,596 more custody drama. 899 00:38:28,596 --> 00:38:30,098 Thank you, Britney Spears. 900 00:38:30,098 --> 00:38:31,560 Being bad is good for my business. 901 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,441 [laughs] HOST: Oh, I know that. 902 00:38:34,441 --> 00:38:37,447 [dramatic music] 903 00:38:37,447 --> 00:38:38,950 ‐ And nobody was talking about mental health 904 00:38:38,950 --> 00:38:42,164 when Britney Spears was going through 905 00:38:42,164 --> 00:38:43,960 all of that stuff in public. 906 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,632 The conversation was about what was wrong with her. 907 00:38:46,632 --> 00:38:48,636 There was too much money to be made off her suffering. 908 00:38:56,402 --> 00:38:57,445 ‐ Name something Britney Spears has lost 909 00:38:57,445 --> 00:38:58,656 in the past year. 910 00:38:58,656 --> 00:39:00,117 [indistinct]? 911 00:39:00,117 --> 00:39:01,453 ‐ Her husband. ‐ Her husband? 912 00:39:01,453 --> 00:39:04,543 Let's see how that stacks up, her husband. 913 00:39:04,543 --> 00:39:06,295 It's something but not number one‐‐Lindsey? 914 00:39:06,295 --> 00:39:10,555 ‐ Hair. ‐ The hair, lost a lot of hair. 915 00:39:10,555 --> 00:39:12,642 There it is. 916 00:39:12,642 --> 00:39:16,567 [indistinct]. 917 00:39:16,567 --> 00:39:18,153 What has she lost? 918 00:39:18,153 --> 00:39:21,159 ‐ She has lost her sanity. 919 00:39:21,159 --> 00:39:23,789 ‐ Has she lost her mind? 920 00:39:23,789 --> 00:39:25,793 [cheers and applause] 921 00:39:25,793 --> 00:39:28,173 [melancholy music] 922 00:39:28,173 --> 00:39:29,676 ANNOUNCER: A media frenzy 923 00:39:29,676 --> 00:39:31,262 around an ambulance in Los Angeles. 924 00:39:31,262 --> 00:39:33,476 Police say they were called to Spears' home Thursday night 925 00:39:33,476 --> 00:39:34,936 over a custody dispute. 926 00:39:34,936 --> 00:39:36,648 ANNOUNCER; She refused a court order 927 00:39:36,648 --> 00:39:38,026 to turn her two children‐‐ 928 00:39:38,026 --> 00:39:39,529 ANNOUNCER: She was supposed to hand over 929 00:39:39,529 --> 00:39:41,617 her two sons last night to Federline but refused. 930 00:39:41,617 --> 00:39:43,161 ANNOUNCER: She reportedly had barricaded herself 931 00:39:43,161 --> 00:39:44,706 inside the room at one point. 932 00:39:44,706 --> 00:39:46,376 ANNOUNCER: She was rushed to the hospital overnight. 933 00:39:46,376 --> 00:39:48,171 ANNOUNCER: Was wheeled out and brought here 934 00:39:48,171 --> 00:39:49,841 to Cedars‐Sinai Hospital in distress. 935 00:39:49,841 --> 00:39:51,345 ANNOUNCER: Was it the pressure? 936 00:39:51,345 --> 00:39:52,847 Anxiety disorder? No one could say what it is. 937 00:39:52,847 --> 00:39:55,060 ANNOUNCER: Is under psychiatric evaluation 938 00:39:55,060 --> 00:39:57,482 that is involuntary, by the way... 939 00:39:57,482 --> 00:39:59,694 ANNOUNCER: In an emergency session Friday, 940 00:39:59,694 --> 00:40:02,241 a family court judge suspended Spears' right 941 00:40:02,241 --> 00:40:04,788 to even see her children. 942 00:40:04,788 --> 00:40:06,333 ANNOUNCER: Britney Spears made 943 00:40:06,333 --> 00:40:07,836 an ever so brief appearance 944 00:40:07,836 --> 00:40:09,714 outside a Los Angeles courthouse Monday, met by... 945 00:40:09,714 --> 00:40:13,681 ‐ Change in visitation that removed 946 00:40:13,681 --> 00:40:16,937 Ms. Spears stays in force. 947 00:40:16,937 --> 00:40:18,774 REPORTER: Until when? 948 00:40:18,774 --> 00:40:22,030 ‐ Indefinitely. 949 00:40:22,030 --> 00:40:23,826 ANNOUNCER: Earlier today, Britney Spears was taken 950 00:40:23,826 --> 00:40:25,788 to the hospital for the second time this month. 951 00:40:25,788 --> 00:40:27,124 ANNOUNCER: We are told that she's been placed 952 00:40:27,124 --> 00:40:29,044 on a 5150 hold. 953 00:40:29,044 --> 00:40:33,345 That is essentially a medical health hold... 954 00:40:33,345 --> 00:40:36,267 PAPARAZZO: Mr. Spears, can you tell us what's going on? 955 00:40:36,267 --> 00:40:37,896 How's Britney doing? 956 00:40:37,896 --> 00:40:40,610 ‐ So around this time, Jamie, Britney's father, 957 00:40:40,610 --> 00:40:44,116 files for temporary conservatorship over Britney. 958 00:40:44,116 --> 00:40:46,204 ‐ We hope the best for your daughter, sir. 959 00:40:46,204 --> 00:40:48,626 LIZ: Conservatorships are a unique legal arrangement, 960 00:40:48,626 --> 00:40:50,755 usually designed for elderly people 961 00:40:50,755 --> 00:40:53,552 who are unable to take care of themselves or their money. 962 00:40:53,552 --> 00:40:54,930 The court gives someone else 963 00:40:54,930 --> 00:40:57,226 special powers to make decisions for them. 964 00:40:57,226 --> 00:40:59,689 ‐ Is she voluntarily going? 965 00:40:59,689 --> 00:41:01,234 Is this a voluntary thing, or is it‐‐ 966 00:41:01,234 --> 00:41:02,695 LIZ: It's unusual, 967 00:41:02,695 --> 00:41:05,242 because Britney's so young and productive, 968 00:41:05,242 --> 00:41:07,747 but there's speculation that she may be dealing with 969 00:41:07,747 --> 00:41:11,755 mental illness issues or drug abuse issues, 970 00:41:11,755 --> 00:41:15,846 or otherwise would benefit from this layer of protection. 971 00:41:15,846 --> 00:41:17,767 And it's sort of surprising in that 972 00:41:17,767 --> 00:41:20,230 Jamie wasn't a huge figure in her life before this. 973 00:41:20,230 --> 00:41:21,566 ‐ Get out. Get out. ‐ Get out. 974 00:41:21,566 --> 00:41:23,278 ‐ All right, now everybody out, get out. 975 00:41:25,616 --> 00:41:28,414 VIVIAN: My name is Vivian Lee Thoreen. 976 00:41:28,414 --> 00:41:31,920 I was involved as an attorney of record 977 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,303 for the first few months of the conservatorship proceedings. 978 00:41:35,303 --> 00:41:38,976 Our client was Jamie Spears, Britney's father. 979 00:41:38,976 --> 00:41:41,440 I can't talk about anything specific that I did, 980 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:42,942 but I guess I could talk about it 981 00:41:42,942 --> 00:41:45,906 in a more, like, hypothetical situation. 982 00:41:45,906 --> 00:41:48,954 The courts take conservatorship proceedings really seriously, 983 00:41:48,954 --> 00:41:50,499 and that's because, I think, 984 00:41:50,499 --> 00:41:52,587 every person's rights are sacred. 985 00:41:52,587 --> 00:41:55,468 There are rules and procedures in place 986 00:41:55,468 --> 00:41:58,014 to make sure that there's accountability. 987 00:41:58,014 --> 00:42:02,440 And really, the theme of conservatorships 988 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:06,365 is to act in the conservatee's best interests. 989 00:42:06,365 --> 00:42:09,286 Some people need a conservator just of the person. 990 00:42:09,286 --> 00:42:11,500 "I need help figuring out what I'm gonna eat, 991 00:42:11,500 --> 00:42:12,835 "where I'm gonna live, 992 00:42:12,835 --> 00:42:14,339 and help brushing my teeth," that sort of thing. 993 00:42:14,339 --> 00:42:17,512 Having a conservator of the estate appointed for someone 994 00:42:17,512 --> 00:42:20,559 is that they are substantially unable 995 00:42:20,559 --> 00:42:23,231 to manage their financial affairs, 996 00:42:23,231 --> 00:42:27,323 or they are susceptible to undue influence or fraud. 997 00:42:27,323 --> 00:42:29,994 It's more than just, "I can't balance my checkbook." 998 00:42:29,994 --> 00:42:33,126 It's "I could be duped into giving away my money." 999 00:42:33,126 --> 00:42:35,840 [camera shutter snapping] 1000 00:42:38,010 --> 00:42:39,514 ‐ It seems like undue influence 1001 00:42:39,514 --> 00:42:41,393 was a real concern for Britney's parents. 1002 00:42:41,393 --> 00:42:44,357 ‐ Hey, get out of her face. 1003 00:42:44,357 --> 00:42:47,028 I mean now. Let's go, Lynne. 1004 00:42:47,028 --> 00:42:48,991 ‐ Are you gonna get a restraining order against Sam? 1005 00:42:48,991 --> 00:42:50,369 Or you guys had been? 1006 00:42:50,369 --> 00:42:51,663 LIZ: They file for a restraining order 1007 00:42:51,663 --> 00:42:53,417 against Sam Lutfi. 1008 00:42:53,417 --> 00:42:55,211 They allege in court documents that Lutfi 1009 00:42:55,211 --> 00:42:56,882 had taken control of Britney's life, 1010 00:42:56,882 --> 00:42:58,677 her house, and her finances, 1011 00:42:58,677 --> 00:43:01,223 and even had been drugging her. 1012 00:43:01,223 --> 00:43:02,894 PAPARAZZO: Sam, can you tell us something? 1013 00:43:02,894 --> 00:43:04,439 LIZ: Lutfi denies the allegations. 1014 00:43:04,439 --> 00:43:05,900 PAPARAZZO: Can you tell us anything? 1015 00:43:05,900 --> 00:43:08,154 LIZ: But the court grants a restraining order. 1016 00:43:08,154 --> 00:43:09,699 GUARD: Let's go, keep going. ‐ Let's go, let's go. 1017 00:43:09,699 --> 00:43:11,328 ‐ Keep going right now. 1018 00:43:11,328 --> 00:43:13,206 LIZ: But Lutfi never seems to really exit the picture. 1019 00:43:13,206 --> 00:43:14,542 ‐ Keep going. ‐ What's going on? 1020 00:43:14,542 --> 00:43:15,836 ‐ No, keep going. ‐ All right. 1021 00:43:15,836 --> 00:43:17,340 LIZ: He later sues the family 1022 00:43:17,340 --> 00:43:19,552 and pops up in subsequent restraining orders 1023 00:43:19,552 --> 00:43:21,055 as recently as 2019. 1024 00:43:21,055 --> 00:43:22,475 SAM: Hope you get better, Britney. 1025 00:43:23,894 --> 00:43:25,814 LIZ: One day after Britney was hospitalized, 1026 00:43:25,814 --> 00:43:29,154 the court grants a temporary conservatorship. 1027 00:43:29,154 --> 00:43:33,079 Britney's dad gets appointed the conservator of her person. 1028 00:43:33,079 --> 00:43:36,043 Then in terms of Britney's money, 1029 00:43:36,043 --> 00:43:38,715 he also gets appointed conservator of her estate, 1030 00:43:38,715 --> 00:43:42,598 alongside an attorney named Andrew Wallet. 1031 00:43:42,598 --> 00:43:45,103 ANNOUNCER: Just six days after being taken to the hospital 1032 00:43:45,103 --> 00:43:47,190 against her will in an ambulance 1033 00:43:47,190 --> 00:43:49,529 under police guard, the troubled pop star 1034 00:43:49,529 --> 00:43:51,240 was released without fanfare Wednesday. 1035 00:43:51,240 --> 00:43:52,868 ‐ Shocking new development in the sad story 1036 00:43:52,868 --> 00:43:54,914 of Britney Spears. She's now out of the hospital. 1037 00:43:54,914 --> 00:43:56,292 She went straight from there 1038 00:43:56,292 --> 00:43:57,962 to the Beverly Hills Hotel, of all places. 1039 00:43:57,962 --> 00:43:59,799 All that and more later at the top of the hour. 1040 00:43:59,799 --> 00:44:01,260 ‐ That's Anderson Cooper at 10:00‐‐ 1041 00:44:01,260 --> 00:44:02,763 ‐ you wanna say something? MICHAEL: I was gonna say, 1042 00:44:02,763 --> 00:44:04,182 it'd be less sad if we just left her alone. 1043 00:44:04,182 --> 00:44:06,313 I mean, why don't we just leave her alone and let her‐‐ 1044 00:44:06,313 --> 00:44:08,984 let her just go on with her life? 1045 00:44:08,984 --> 00:44:12,366 ♪ ♪ 1046 00:44:12,366 --> 00:44:15,456 ‐ I'm Adam Streisand. I'm a trial lawyer. 1047 00:44:15,456 --> 00:44:19,714 And my practice is focused on conservatorships 1048 00:44:19,714 --> 00:44:21,926 and battles over estates. 1049 00:44:21,926 --> 00:44:24,390 PAPARAZZO: Hi, Britney. How you doing, sweetheart? 1050 00:44:24,390 --> 00:44:26,436 Good to see you. 1051 00:44:26,436 --> 00:44:29,942 ADAM: I got a call from Britney's family law attorneys 1052 00:44:29,942 --> 00:44:32,365 and asked me if I would speak to Britney because, 1053 00:44:32,365 --> 00:44:35,286 well, the whole world knew that her father 1054 00:44:35,286 --> 00:44:37,541 was trying to establish a conservatorship over her. 1055 00:44:37,541 --> 00:44:39,086 PAPARAZZO: Hey, she's trying to get out! 1056 00:44:39,086 --> 00:44:40,547 [indistinct chatter] 1057 00:44:40,547 --> 00:44:41,675 PAPARAZZO: Come on, Britney. 1058 00:44:41,675 --> 00:44:43,010 GUARD: Let her go through, please. 1059 00:44:43,010 --> 00:44:44,347 Give her some room to go through, give her some room. 1060 00:44:44,347 --> 00:44:45,849 ADAM: I met with Britney. 1061 00:44:45,849 --> 00:44:48,145 ‐ Hey, be careful! You're hurting her. 1062 00:44:48,145 --> 00:44:49,565 ‐ Back up! 1063 00:44:49,565 --> 00:44:52,153 ADAM: We agreed to meet at the Beverly Hills Hotel. 1064 00:44:52,153 --> 00:44:53,699 Well, that's pretty famous, 1065 00:44:53,699 --> 00:44:55,869 'cause there was a lot of paparazzi. 1066 00:44:55,869 --> 00:44:58,959 And the first question I had was, 1067 00:44:58,959 --> 00:45:02,466 "Does Britney have the capacity to be able to hire me? 1068 00:45:02,466 --> 00:45:06,808 Does she have the ability to take my advice?" 1069 00:45:06,808 --> 00:45:09,772 The first thing is Britney was able to make the judgment, 1070 00:45:09,772 --> 00:45:11,317 "Hey, I get what's going on. 1071 00:45:11,317 --> 00:45:13,279 "I get that I'm not gonna be able to 1072 00:45:13,279 --> 00:45:14,782 "resist this conservatorship 1073 00:45:14,782 --> 00:45:16,494 or avoid this conservatorship," right? 1074 00:45:16,494 --> 00:45:18,665 So that's a pretty sound judgment. 1075 00:45:18,665 --> 00:45:21,170 The second thing was she said, 1076 00:45:21,170 --> 00:45:23,800 "I don't want my father to be the conservator." 1077 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:25,429 That was her one request. 1078 00:45:25,429 --> 00:45:28,477 She wanted a professional, somebody independent. 1079 00:45:28,477 --> 00:45:30,021 INTERVIEWER: And was she opposed to her dad 1080 00:45:30,021 --> 00:45:33,695 as the conservator of the estate, the person, or both? 1081 00:45:33,695 --> 00:45:35,198 ‐ Both. 1082 00:45:35,198 --> 00:45:36,951 Britney did not want her father 1083 00:45:36,951 --> 00:45:39,206 to be the conservator of her person, right? 1084 00:45:39,206 --> 00:45:42,838 The person who makes decisions about her medical care 1085 00:45:42,838 --> 00:45:45,218 and treatment, and so on and so forth. 1086 00:45:45,218 --> 00:45:48,642 She also didn't want him controlling her finances. 1087 00:45:48,642 --> 00:45:50,813 [soft tense music] 1088 00:45:50,813 --> 00:45:55,864 The day that I went to court for her, the judge said, um, 1089 00:45:55,864 --> 00:45:57,660 "I've got a medical report, 1090 00:45:57,660 --> 00:45:59,330 "and you haven't seen it, Mr. Streisand, 1091 00:45:59,330 --> 00:46:01,208 "and I'm not gonna show it to you, 1092 00:46:01,208 --> 00:46:06,051 "and it shows that she's not capable of retaining counsel 1093 00:46:06,051 --> 00:46:08,055 and directing counsel on her own." 1094 00:46:08,055 --> 00:46:09,559 When the judge told me, 1095 00:46:09,559 --> 00:46:12,356 "Mr. Streisand, I'm not gonna let you represent her. 1096 00:46:12,356 --> 00:46:14,735 I'm going to appoint somebody," 1097 00:46:14,735 --> 00:46:19,077 I felt that was not the right decision by the judge. 1098 00:46:19,077 --> 00:46:22,418 I felt that, based on my interactions with Britney, 1099 00:46:22,418 --> 00:46:26,926 that she was capable of retaining me and directing me 1100 00:46:26,926 --> 00:46:28,972 and that the judge should have allowed that to happen. 1101 00:46:28,972 --> 00:46:30,392 ‐ Can you give us some kind of a heads‐up 1102 00:46:30,392 --> 00:46:32,061 on what happened here today? ‐ No, I'm sorry. 1103 00:46:32,061 --> 00:46:34,692 I'm not gonna‐‐gonna be giving any statements on her. 1104 00:46:34,692 --> 00:46:38,366 But I didn't know what I didn't know, right? 1105 00:46:38,366 --> 00:46:43,335 I still don't know what is in that report, 1106 00:46:43,335 --> 00:46:45,004 and so I had to respect that. 1107 00:46:45,004 --> 00:46:51,099 ♪ ♪ 1108 00:46:52,394 --> 00:46:53,813 LIZ: According to court records, 1109 00:46:53,813 --> 00:46:55,817 Britney's conservators are able to control 1110 00:46:55,817 --> 00:46:57,446 who can and cannot visit her, 1111 00:46:57,446 --> 00:47:00,619 and retain security guards for her 24 hours a day. 1112 00:47:00,619 --> 00:47:02,414 They have the power to access her medical records 1113 00:47:02,414 --> 00:47:04,460 and communicate with her doctors. 1114 00:47:04,460 --> 00:47:06,004 They can take control of her house 1115 00:47:06,004 --> 00:47:08,426 and even cancel her credit cards. 1116 00:47:08,426 --> 00:47:11,264 They can make recording, touring, and TV deals for her, 1117 00:47:11,264 --> 00:47:14,104 and are deeply involved in her finances. 1118 00:47:14,104 --> 00:47:15,941 There's some speculation that Britney 1119 00:47:15,941 --> 00:47:18,278 may have basically accepted the conservatorship 1120 00:47:18,278 --> 00:47:20,867 because she was worried about seeing her kids. 1121 00:47:20,867 --> 00:47:22,245 And a few weeks later, 1122 00:47:22,245 --> 00:47:24,417 she starts to get some visitation rights restored. 1123 00:47:24,417 --> 00:47:26,629 [dramatic music] 1124 00:47:26,629 --> 00:47:29,969 VIVIAN: If there is a conservatorship proceeding, 1125 00:47:29,969 --> 00:47:33,476 and the proposed conservatee at some point consents, 1126 00:47:33,476 --> 00:47:35,772 the conservatee can't wake up one morning and say, 1127 00:47:35,772 --> 00:47:37,484 "I don't need this. I don't want it. 1128 00:47:37,484 --> 00:47:38,737 Make it go away." 1129 00:47:38,737 --> 00:47:40,281 A petition would have to be filed, 1130 00:47:40,281 --> 00:47:42,578 a petition to terminate the conservatorship, 1131 00:47:42,578 --> 00:47:45,333 and then there's gotta be evidence 1132 00:47:45,333 --> 00:47:48,297 or some demonstration that a conservatorship 1133 00:47:48,297 --> 00:47:50,719 is not necessary at that point in time. 1134 00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,975 It's the conservatee who has the burden of saying, 1135 00:47:53,975 --> 00:47:56,814 "I don't need a conservatorship anymore, and here's why." 1136 00:47:56,814 --> 00:47:58,651 INTERVIEWER: Have you ever known anyone 1137 00:47:58,651 --> 00:48:01,657 who has terminated a conservatorship? 1138 00:48:01,657 --> 00:48:04,663 ‐ Of the cases that I've been involved in, um, 1139 00:48:04,663 --> 00:48:07,168 I have not seen a conservatee 1140 00:48:07,168 --> 00:48:09,965 who has successfully terminated a conservatorship. 1141 00:48:09,965 --> 00:48:14,892 ♪ ♪ 1142 00:48:20,904 --> 00:48:22,198 JAMIE: Give my baby some cheese grits. 1143 00:48:22,198 --> 00:48:23,535 She's been eating them since she was born. 1144 00:48:23,535 --> 00:48:24,870 For Southern girls, 1145 00:48:24,870 --> 00:48:28,503 the breakfast of champions is cheese grits. 1146 00:48:28,503 --> 00:48:31,174 [soft tense music] 1147 00:48:31,174 --> 00:48:33,388 LIZ: In the first year of the conservatorship, 1148 00:48:33,388 --> 00:48:35,308 Britney's team grants MTV access 1149 00:48:35,308 --> 00:48:38,439 to do a documentary called "Britney: For the Record." 1150 00:48:38,439 --> 00:48:41,946 ‐ Hope I got enough cheese and butter in it. 1151 00:48:41,946 --> 00:48:43,700 ‐ I'm good. ‐ Good‐‐all right. 1152 00:48:43,700 --> 00:48:45,537 LIZ: For the first time, we get a real peek 1153 00:48:45,537 --> 00:48:48,334 of the dynamic between Britney and Jamie, 1154 00:48:48,334 --> 00:48:50,797 who had just come along as her conservator. 1155 00:48:50,797 --> 00:48:52,676 ‐ This is my dad. 1156 00:48:52,676 --> 00:48:54,597 "Britney Jean, sit down there, right there. 1157 00:48:54,597 --> 00:48:56,893 "She don't listen to me. I scream at her, 1158 00:48:56,893 --> 00:48:58,354 "and she gets on me about screaming at her, 1159 00:48:58,354 --> 00:48:59,732 "but I can't do it‐‐ now, you're just gonna 1160 00:48:59,732 --> 00:49:02,404 have to talk some [bleep] sense into her." 1161 00:49:02,404 --> 00:49:04,575 ‐ Give me that phone, I'll hold that damn phone for you. 1162 00:49:04,575 --> 00:49:06,871 ‐ No, Daddy. 1163 00:49:06,871 --> 00:49:08,708 ‐ Oh, [bleep]. 1164 00:49:08,708 --> 00:49:10,962 LIZ: And the topic of the conservatorship comes up 1165 00:49:10,962 --> 00:49:12,591 while they're filming the documentary, 1166 00:49:12,591 --> 00:49:14,135 and it's one of the only glimpses 1167 00:49:14,135 --> 00:49:16,933 that anyone has of how she really feels about it. 1168 00:49:16,933 --> 00:49:18,268 ‐ If I wasn't under the restraints 1169 00:49:18,268 --> 00:49:19,855 that I'm under right now, you know, 1170 00:49:19,855 --> 00:49:23,111 with all the lawyers and doctors and people 1171 00:49:23,111 --> 00:49:26,159 analyzing me every day and all that kind of stuff, 1172 00:49:26,159 --> 00:49:28,080 like, if that wasn't there, 1173 00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:32,213 I'd feel so liberated and feel like myself. 1174 00:49:32,213 --> 00:49:34,885 When I tell them the way I feel, it's like they hear me, 1175 00:49:34,885 --> 00:49:37,683 but they're really not listening. 1176 00:49:37,683 --> 00:49:39,269 They're hearing what they wanna hear. 1177 00:49:39,269 --> 00:49:41,524 They're not really listening to what I'm telling them. 1178 00:49:41,524 --> 00:49:45,573 It's like‐‐it's bad. 1179 00:49:45,573 --> 00:49:48,579 [plaintive music] 1180 00:49:48,579 --> 00:49:53,715 ♪ ♪ 1181 00:49:53,715 --> 00:49:56,804 [quietly] And I'm sad. 1182 00:49:56,804 --> 00:50:00,770 LIZ: Almost immediately, Britney goes back to work. 1183 00:50:00,770 --> 00:50:03,484 Within two months, she's guest‐starring on network TV. 1184 00:50:03,484 --> 00:50:06,407 ‐ "The personal library of Ted Mosby," that's you. 1185 00:50:06,407 --> 00:50:07,951 ‐ And by the end of 2008, 1186 00:50:07,951 --> 00:50:09,997 she has recorded and released an album, 1187 00:50:09,997 --> 00:50:11,917 and is preparing to go on a tour. 1188 00:50:11,917 --> 00:50:14,297 ALL: ♪ In the center of the ring, just like a circus ♪ 1189 00:50:14,297 --> 00:50:16,469 ♪ When I crack that whip, everybody gonna trip ♪ 1190 00:50:16,469 --> 00:50:17,971 ♪ Just like a circus ♪ 1191 00:50:17,971 --> 00:50:19,933 ANNOUNCER: She seems to be on this terrific path. 1192 00:50:19,933 --> 00:50:21,937 I think a lot of it has to do with the conservatorship 1193 00:50:21,937 --> 00:50:23,483 that her father took control of. 1194 00:50:23,483 --> 00:50:26,989 ANNOUNCER: Finally got a wholesome, good brand again. 1195 00:50:26,989 --> 00:50:28,951 ‐ Yeah, Britney! ALL: Whoo! 1196 00:50:28,951 --> 00:50:33,503 ‐ Once the conservatorship started, my role changed. 1197 00:50:33,503 --> 00:50:35,799 We're gonna walk around this way toward the stage, 1198 00:50:35,799 --> 00:50:38,805 so if you see your section, just show them your ticket. 1199 00:50:38,805 --> 00:50:42,103 My new job, I gave backstage tours. 1200 00:50:42,103 --> 00:50:44,817 When I went back, it was a different business management, 1201 00:50:44,817 --> 00:50:49,993 and her dad was involved, and so they did not hire me. 1202 00:50:49,993 --> 00:50:51,622 The touring company hired me. 1203 00:50:51,622 --> 00:50:56,131 I don't know why the Britney company did not hire me. 1204 00:50:56,131 --> 00:50:59,178 All I know is that maybe they just didn't know 1205 00:50:59,178 --> 00:51:01,015 the role I had played earlier. 1206 00:51:01,015 --> 00:51:02,894 PAPARAZZO: Felicia, just so people will believe me, 1207 00:51:02,894 --> 00:51:05,149 what is your relationship with Britney? 1208 00:51:05,149 --> 00:51:08,155 ‐ I'm a business assistant. 1209 00:51:08,155 --> 00:51:10,910 So I took a back seat and simply did 1210 00:51:10,910 --> 00:51:12,330 what I was hired to do. 1211 00:51:12,330 --> 00:51:14,543 PAPARAZZO: Bye, Felicia. 1212 00:51:14,543 --> 00:51:16,045 FELICIA: I don't really know what went on. 1213 00:51:16,045 --> 00:51:19,218 I just don't know that they knew her well enough 1214 00:51:19,218 --> 00:51:24,061 to realize her capabilities in making the decisions. 1215 00:51:24,061 --> 00:51:26,984 Just me looking in, that's what I saw. 1216 00:51:26,984 --> 00:51:30,533 ‐ Britney Spears has made her comeback 100%. 1217 00:51:30,533 --> 00:51:32,161 ‐ It's Britney, bitch. 1218 00:51:32,161 --> 00:51:34,165 ‐ Go and see the concert! It's amazing. 1219 00:51:34,165 --> 00:51:36,962 LIZ: Over the next few years, Britney's really busy. 1220 00:51:36,962 --> 00:51:38,382 ‐ And the People's Choice 1221 00:51:38,382 --> 00:51:41,305 for favorite pop artist goes to‐‐ 1222 00:51:41,305 --> 00:51:44,060 ‐ It's Britney Spears! ‐ Britney Spears! 1223 00:51:44,060 --> 00:51:46,690 ‐ Thank you so much. I wasn't expecting this. 1224 00:51:46,690 --> 00:51:48,068 ‐ She's doing a lot. 1225 00:51:48,068 --> 00:51:52,410 BOTH: ♪ Oops, I did it again with my heart ♪ 1226 00:51:52,410 --> 00:51:54,247 ‐ Ladies and gentlemen, Britney Spears. 1227 00:51:54,247 --> 00:51:55,833 ANNOUNCER: Britney Spears' comeback 1228 00:51:55,833 --> 00:51:57,879 is translating to her checkbook. 1229 00:51:57,879 --> 00:51:59,257 ‐ Hey, it's my show! 1230 00:51:59,257 --> 00:52:00,802 ANNOUNCER: Estimated earnings 1231 00:52:00,802 --> 00:52:02,722 over $58 million in the past 12 months. 1232 00:52:02,722 --> 00:52:05,395 ‐ I think that your performance was incredibly special. 1233 00:52:05,395 --> 00:52:07,106 It was beautiful, and your tone‐‐ 1234 00:52:07,106 --> 00:52:08,568 I agree with Demi‐‐ 1235 00:52:08,568 --> 00:52:10,738 you have such a soulful tone for such a young age. 1236 00:52:10,738 --> 00:52:11,949 It was amazing. 1237 00:52:11,949 --> 00:52:13,411 ‐ And then she does a really big deal, 1238 00:52:13,411 --> 00:52:15,373 which is a residency in Las Vegas. 1239 00:52:15,373 --> 00:52:17,293 [upbeat music playing] 1240 00:52:17,293 --> 00:52:19,213 ♪ ♪ 1241 00:52:19,213 --> 00:52:21,050 MAN: Who is it? 1242 00:52:21,050 --> 00:52:23,221 [laughter, cheers, and applause] 1243 00:52:23,221 --> 00:52:24,933 ‐ It's Britney, bitch. 1244 00:52:24,933 --> 00:52:27,939 What's up, Vegas? 1245 00:52:27,939 --> 00:52:30,152 We should bring someone up here. 1246 00:52:30,152 --> 00:52:33,116 Can you be my Prince Charming tonight, please? 1247 00:52:33,116 --> 00:52:35,913 Thank you. [both scream] 1248 00:52:35,913 --> 00:52:37,959 FELICIA: I'm telling you, when she walked on that stage, 1249 00:52:37,959 --> 00:52:40,590 she never felt judged on the stage. 1250 00:52:40,590 --> 00:52:42,469 People ate her up. 1251 00:52:42,469 --> 00:52:44,931 They were mouthing every word that she sang. 1252 00:52:44,931 --> 00:52:47,019 Um, most people knew every dance move. 1253 00:52:47,019 --> 00:52:51,027 It was one of the‐‐one of the high points in my life, um, 1254 00:52:51,027 --> 00:52:54,033 is seeing how much she was loved. 1255 00:52:54,033 --> 00:52:57,791 ANNOUNCER: Originally raking in around $310,000 per show, 1256 00:52:57,791 --> 00:52:59,628 they deposit close to $1 million 1257 00:52:59,628 --> 00:53:03,636 in Brit's bank account every week. 1258 00:53:03,636 --> 00:53:05,431 ‐ Jamie Spears gets approved by the court 1259 00:53:05,431 --> 00:53:08,312 to receive 1.5% of the gross revenues 1260 00:53:08,312 --> 00:53:10,483 related to performances and merchandise 1261 00:53:10,483 --> 00:53:12,320 related to the residency, 1262 00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,324 which was one of the most popular Vegas shows 1263 00:53:14,324 --> 00:53:15,785 of all time. 1264 00:53:15,785 --> 00:53:19,960 JOE: She's living the life of a busy pop singer, 1265 00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:25,680 and yet we're also being told that she's at risk constantly. 1266 00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:27,976 The business of Britney Spears have become 1267 00:53:27,976 --> 00:53:31,190 this very guarded universe, 1268 00:53:31,190 --> 00:53:34,155 and there was, you know, a very small inner circle of people 1269 00:53:34,155 --> 00:53:36,618 who were able to interact with her daily, 1270 00:53:36,618 --> 00:53:38,956 you know, because of the conservatorship. 1271 00:53:38,956 --> 00:53:40,668 DAVE: And any time there's that amount of money 1272 00:53:40,668 --> 00:53:43,173 to be made, you have to question 1273 00:53:43,173 --> 00:53:46,513 the motives of everyone close to that person, 1274 00:53:46,513 --> 00:53:50,187 especially if they are putting her in a position 1275 00:53:50,187 --> 00:53:52,609 where she cannot make decisions 1276 00:53:52,609 --> 00:53:54,278 without checking with somebody. 1277 00:53:54,278 --> 00:53:55,948 ‐ Choose your own destiny. 1278 00:53:55,948 --> 00:53:57,702 JOE: I've never interviewed Britney Spears. 1279 00:53:57,702 --> 00:53:59,539 I would go so far as to say anyone 1280 00:53:59,539 --> 00:54:01,376 who has interviewed Britney Spears, 1281 00:54:01,376 --> 00:54:03,839 at least in the last five, ten years, 1282 00:54:03,839 --> 00:54:07,430 did so under very careful watch from her handlers. 1283 00:54:14,026 --> 00:54:15,530 ‐ Baby, what are you gonna be when you grow up? 1284 00:54:15,530 --> 00:54:19,871 ‐ I'm gonna be the president of the dog states, yeah. 1285 00:54:19,871 --> 00:54:22,544 ‐ This is my impression of a Woody Woodpecker. 1286 00:54:22,544 --> 00:54:24,213 [breathy exhale] 1287 00:54:24,213 --> 00:54:27,219 [laughs as Woody Woodpecker] 1288 00:54:27,219 --> 00:54:28,722 [laughter] 1289 00:54:28,722 --> 00:54:30,351 [squeals] 1290 00:54:30,351 --> 00:54:31,728 LIZ: With the rise of Instagram, 1291 00:54:31,728 --> 00:54:32,981 it's no longer the tabloids 1292 00:54:32,981 --> 00:54:34,901 who choose how the world sees Britney. 1293 00:54:34,901 --> 00:54:38,867 ALL: ♪ Happy birthday to you ♪ 1294 00:54:38,867 --> 00:54:40,580 BRITNEY: ♪ And many more, your pants are torn ♪ 1295 00:54:40,580 --> 00:54:44,003 ♪ They're down your back, get up off the floor ♪ 1296 00:54:45,590 --> 00:54:47,259 LIZ: Britney can show us parts of her life 1297 00:54:47,259 --> 00:54:48,721 that she wants us to see. 1298 00:54:48,721 --> 00:54:51,685 ‐ 360 in my room all day long! 1299 00:54:51,685 --> 00:54:53,397 Ahh! 1300 00:54:54,649 --> 00:54:57,905 LIZ: But the conservatorship is never really mentioned, 1301 00:54:57,905 --> 00:54:59,743 which makes some people wonder if she's sending 1302 00:54:59,743 --> 00:55:02,080 coded messages through her posts. 1303 00:55:03,041 --> 00:55:07,049 [pensive music] 1304 00:55:07,049 --> 00:55:08,802 ‐ Britney's Instagram was just something 1305 00:55:08,802 --> 00:55:10,431 that was really fascinating to us. 1306 00:55:10,431 --> 00:55:11,933 You know, we would share her posts 1307 00:55:11,933 --> 00:55:14,146 and just kind of wonder what they were all about. 1308 00:55:14,146 --> 00:55:16,318 ‐ And Babs was like, 1309 00:55:16,318 --> 00:55:18,322 "What if we did a podcast where all we did 1310 00:55:18,322 --> 00:55:20,785 was over‐dissect Britney's Instagram?" 1311 00:55:20,785 --> 00:55:23,247 BABS: Hello, everyone, and welcome to "Britney's Gram." 1312 00:55:23,247 --> 00:55:25,419 BOTH: The happiest place on the Internet. 1313 00:55:25,419 --> 00:55:27,465 BABS: I am Babs Gray. TESS: And I'm Tess Barker. 1314 00:55:27,465 --> 00:55:29,134 BABS: That's kind of where we started noticing 1315 00:55:29,134 --> 00:55:31,263 more and more these very cryptic things 1316 00:55:31,263 --> 00:55:34,437 she would post, like a hole cut out in a wall, 1317 00:55:34,437 --> 00:55:37,777 and the caption is, "There's always a way out," 1318 00:55:37,777 --> 00:55:39,614 and it was just like, God, like, what is this? 1319 00:55:39,614 --> 00:55:41,075 It almost seems kinda dark. 1320 00:55:41,075 --> 00:55:43,914 ‐ Um, I'm a Sagittarius. I'm very keen on freedom. 1321 00:55:43,914 --> 00:55:45,793 I love freedom. I love independence. 1322 00:55:45,793 --> 00:55:49,426 ‐ If you think that Britney is calling out for help... 1323 00:55:53,559 --> 00:55:55,938 You'll find a reason in those videos 1324 00:55:55,938 --> 00:55:58,067 that's proof that she's calling out for help. 1325 00:55:58,067 --> 00:56:00,280 ‐ My favorite Disney movie is probably "Frozen" 1326 00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:03,161 just because I really like the fact that the two sisters, 1327 00:56:03,161 --> 00:56:04,497 um, their relationship, 1328 00:56:04,497 --> 00:56:05,958 and then one goes off and lives in a castle 1329 00:56:05,958 --> 00:56:07,962 just because she can't deal anymore. 1330 00:56:07,962 --> 00:56:09,716 DAVE: Everyone's interpretation 1331 00:56:09,716 --> 00:56:11,303 of what Britney is putting forth 1332 00:56:11,303 --> 00:56:12,555 is something that they are bringing 1333 00:56:12,555 --> 00:56:15,101 to those Instagram videos. 1334 00:56:15,101 --> 00:56:19,486 It's impossible to know her so we never knew her. 1335 00:56:19,486 --> 00:56:21,323 We know her even less now. 1336 00:56:21,323 --> 00:56:24,036 She is‐‐she is kind of unknowable. 1337 00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,506 TESS: This is episode 50. BABS: Oh, my God. 1338 00:56:29,506 --> 00:56:31,885 Naturally, since it was a Britney Spears podcast, 1339 00:56:31,885 --> 00:56:34,139 we would look at any news involving her, 1340 00:56:34,139 --> 00:56:37,062 and we saw that her co‐conservator, Andrew Wallet, 1341 00:56:37,062 --> 00:56:40,820 was petitioning for a raise from the court. 1342 00:56:40,820 --> 00:56:42,615 This is what it read. 1343 00:56:44,284 --> 00:56:45,913 "Conservatee's business activities 1344 00:56:45,913 --> 00:56:49,294 "have greatly accelerated due to her increased wellbeing 1345 00:56:49,294 --> 00:56:51,131 "and her capacity to be more engaged 1346 00:56:51,131 --> 00:56:53,219 "in furthering her career activities. 1347 00:56:53,219 --> 00:56:55,683 "The next several years promise to be very lucrative 1348 00:56:55,683 --> 00:56:57,520 "for the conservatorship estate. 1349 00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:59,273 "This conservatorship should be viewed more 1350 00:56:59,273 --> 00:57:01,486 as a hybrid business model," 1351 00:57:01,486 --> 00:57:04,032 which I think is probably the first time 1352 00:57:04,032 --> 00:57:06,621 that's ever been said about a conservatorship. 1353 00:57:06,621 --> 00:57:08,124 ‐ And‐‐and that the conservatorship, 1354 00:57:08,124 --> 00:57:10,963 which really is put in place to take care of people‐‐ 1355 00:57:10,963 --> 00:57:12,383 BABS: Naturally shouldn't be a business 1356 00:57:12,383 --> 00:57:14,387 that is making exorbitant amounts of money 1357 00:57:14,387 --> 00:57:16,725 from someone who is so fit to work. 1358 00:57:16,725 --> 00:57:17,894 [dramatic musical sting] 1359 00:57:17,894 --> 00:57:19,355 KALEN: Hello, world. 1360 00:57:19,355 --> 00:57:22,027 We are live in Las Vegas 1361 00:57:22,027 --> 00:57:25,534 for an announcement that is about to shake the table. 1362 00:57:25,534 --> 00:57:27,580 Y'all excited? [all cheer] 1363 00:57:27,580 --> 00:57:29,459 DAVE: So she was gonna announce 1364 00:57:29,459 --> 00:57:31,421 the Domination residency, 1365 00:57:31,421 --> 00:57:33,132 a brand‐new theater on a brand‐new stage. 1366 00:57:33,132 --> 00:57:35,094 It was gonna be, like, a year long, maybe more. 1367 00:57:35,094 --> 00:57:37,182 KALEN: She's coming. It's about to happen. 1368 00:57:37,182 --> 00:57:38,727 ‐ She was gonna, like, do a performance 1369 00:57:38,727 --> 00:57:41,190 and then go down and do an interview. 1370 00:57:41,190 --> 00:57:43,528 It's live streaming. It's up on YouTube. 1371 00:57:43,528 --> 00:57:45,366 KALEN: I wish I knew some of that Britney choreo, 1372 00:57:45,366 --> 00:57:47,703 but she‐‐she a lot better dancer than me. 1373 00:57:47,703 --> 00:57:50,249 DAVE: Then it's like, the lights go down. 1374 00:57:50,249 --> 00:57:51,711 MARIO: All right, everyone. 1375 00:57:51,711 --> 00:57:55,761 We are here to welcome the new queen of Vegas. 1376 00:57:55,761 --> 00:57:58,767 ["Till the World Ends" playing] 1377 00:57:58,767 --> 00:58:02,733 ♪ ♪ 1378 00:58:02,733 --> 00:58:05,406 Ladies and gentlemen, Britney Spears! 1379 00:58:05,406 --> 00:58:06,783 [crowd cheering] 1380 00:58:06,783 --> 00:58:09,706 DAVE: And she walks down 1381 00:58:09,706 --> 00:58:11,208 and then passes the stage 1382 00:58:11,208 --> 00:58:12,878 where the performance is gonna be, 1383 00:58:12,878 --> 00:58:16,010 keeps walking, keeps walking. 1384 00:58:16,010 --> 00:58:17,346 TESS: Doesn't say anything on stage, 1385 00:58:17,346 --> 00:58:19,099 doesn't give any interviews with reporters, 1386 00:58:19,099 --> 00:58:22,272 does not announce the residency that she's there to announce. 1387 00:58:22,272 --> 00:58:23,608 DAVE: And it's like, "Here she is. 1388 00:58:23,608 --> 00:58:27,115 Oh, there she goes. Oh, she's not gonna‐‐and‐‐ 1389 00:58:27,115 --> 00:58:28,618 and there she goes in her limousine." 1390 00:58:28,618 --> 00:58:30,121 REPORTER: That's it? This‐‐we've been waiting 1391 00:58:30,121 --> 00:58:32,000 for this live stream. She just walked right by? 1392 00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:33,503 REPORTER: And she's just walking by. 1393 00:58:43,482 --> 00:58:44,942 LIZ: I think up until this point 1394 00:58:44,942 --> 00:58:47,323 Britney had seemed like a good little soldier 1395 00:58:47,323 --> 00:58:49,744 where she was happy to go out and perform, 1396 00:58:49,744 --> 00:58:52,082 but the abrupt cancelation of the second Vegas show 1397 00:58:52,082 --> 00:58:53,585 felt like the beginning 1398 00:58:53,585 --> 00:58:55,672 of the end of the fairy tale gloss 1399 00:58:55,672 --> 00:58:57,468 over the conservatorship. 1400 00:58:59,179 --> 00:59:01,225 BABS: And then nothing, disappears. 1401 00:59:01,225 --> 00:59:03,229 No‐‐no sign of her on Instagram. 1402 00:59:03,229 --> 00:59:04,816 We're just like, "Where the fuck is Britney?" 1403 00:59:04,816 --> 00:59:07,404 Welcome to "Britney's Gram." 1404 00:59:07,404 --> 00:59:09,659 BOTH: The happiest place on the Internet! 1405 00:59:09,659 --> 00:59:11,078 BABS: Currently when we're recording this 1406 00:59:11,078 --> 00:59:13,333 day 17 of the Britney shutdown. 1407 00:59:13,333 --> 00:59:15,169 TESS: I'm still not at peace. I'm anxious. 1408 00:59:15,169 --> 00:59:18,217 BABS: No! There's a‐‐ And then, out of nowhere, 1409 00:59:18,217 --> 00:59:20,179 Andrew Wallet quits. 1410 00:59:20,179 --> 00:59:22,810 This guy just asked for a raise‐‐why would he‐‐ 1411 00:59:22,810 --> 00:59:24,480 ‐ And had been the conservator since the onset 1412 00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:26,024 of the conservatorship. ‐ Like, what? 1413 00:59:26,024 --> 00:59:27,736 Something is going on behind the scenes here. 1414 00:59:35,251 --> 00:59:38,383 [tense music] 1415 00:59:38,383 --> 00:59:42,641 ♪ ♪ 1416 00:59:42,641 --> 00:59:44,353 BABS: Finally the Instagram, 1417 00:59:44,353 --> 00:59:46,900 which had been dark, there's a meme. 1418 00:59:48,528 --> 00:59:50,031 The caption says, 1419 00:59:50,031 --> 00:59:52,828 "We all need to take time for a little 'me time,'" 1420 00:59:52,828 --> 00:59:56,878 and there was a smiley face, an emoticon, not an emoji, 1421 00:59:56,878 --> 00:59:58,047 which we noted because we're like, 1422 00:59:58,047 --> 01:00:00,051 "Britney always uses emoji." 1423 01:00:00,051 --> 01:00:01,971 And it just seemed off immediately, 1424 01:00:01,971 --> 01:00:05,061 and the news breaks that‐‐ 1425 01:00:05,061 --> 01:00:06,564 REPORTER: TMZ is reporting that Spears 1426 01:00:06,564 --> 01:00:07,900 voluntarily checked herself 1427 01:00:07,900 --> 01:00:10,364 into a residential mental health facility 1428 01:00:10,364 --> 01:00:11,783 about a week ago. 1429 01:00:11,783 --> 01:00:13,578 ‐ We talked about all our suspicions with whether or not 1430 01:00:13,578 --> 01:00:16,250 she had actually elected to go on into the facility herself 1431 01:00:16,250 --> 01:00:18,045 and whether she'd been there for a lot longer. 1432 01:00:18,045 --> 01:00:21,134 ‐ And the next day we get a voicemail. 1433 01:00:21,134 --> 01:00:22,429 PERSON: Hi, there. 1434 01:00:22,429 --> 01:00:26,688 Um, I cannot disclose who I am. 1435 01:00:29,527 --> 01:00:32,741 I used to be a paralegal for an attorney 1436 01:00:32,741 --> 01:00:34,578 that worked with Britney's conservatorship. 1437 01:00:34,578 --> 01:00:35,956 I am no longer with them. 1438 01:00:35,956 --> 01:00:37,250 ‐ It just brought to light 1439 01:00:37,250 --> 01:00:38,712 a lot of the things that we had suspected. 1440 01:00:38,712 --> 01:00:41,968 PERSON: Britney has been in the mental facility 1441 01:00:41,968 --> 01:00:43,430 since mid‐January. 1442 01:00:43,430 --> 01:00:44,932 Of course, I‐I'm just a paralegal. 1443 01:00:44,932 --> 01:00:46,602 I haven't had any contact with her, 1444 01:00:46,602 --> 01:00:48,732 but, um, from what I understand, 1445 01:00:48,732 --> 01:00:53,282 this was, uh... not a decision she made. 1446 01:00:53,282 --> 01:00:56,121 ‐ We felt that this information should probably be shared. 1447 01:00:56,121 --> 01:00:57,458 We don't know what the next step is 1448 01:00:57,458 --> 01:00:58,710 as far as getting her out. 1449 01:00:58,710 --> 01:01:00,129 That's what we have to figure out. 1450 01:01:00,129 --> 01:01:01,924 You know, she's been put away. 1451 01:01:01,924 --> 01:01:03,303 Let's get her out. Free Britney. 1452 01:01:03,303 --> 01:01:04,472 TESS: Free Britney. We love you, Britney. 1453 01:01:04,472 --> 01:01:06,266 BABS: Bye. TESS: Bye. 1454 01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:18,708 ‐ A popular Britney fan podcast 1455 01:01:18,708 --> 01:01:21,088 aired a special emergency episode after receiving... 1456 01:01:21,088 --> 01:01:23,676 ‐ So we released the podcast on a Monday night, 1457 01:01:23,676 --> 01:01:25,597 and by Tuesday morning it was everywhere. 1458 01:01:25,597 --> 01:01:27,309 NEWS ANCHOR: Social media is erupting 1459 01:01:27,309 --> 01:01:30,147 in Britney Spears hysteria. 1460 01:01:30,147 --> 01:01:31,484 ‐ I love that shirt. 1461 01:01:31,484 --> 01:01:34,030 Eve's got that shirt, uh! [cheers and applause] 1462 01:01:34,030 --> 01:01:35,867 JUNIOR: I still remember the exact moment 1463 01:01:35,867 --> 01:01:37,496 the voicemail dropped 1464 01:01:37,496 --> 01:01:41,379 and the feeling I had of, "Oh, my God, it makes sense." 1465 01:01:41,379 --> 01:01:43,967 It clicked. 1466 01:01:43,967 --> 01:01:45,720 I knew then it was time to jump. 1467 01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:47,181 We gathered a few fans. 1468 01:01:47,181 --> 01:01:50,313 It wasn't much, maybe 10, 15. Pick a spot. 1469 01:01:50,313 --> 01:01:52,443 What do we want? ALL: Free Britney! 1470 01:01:52,443 --> 01:01:53,611 JUNIOR: When do we want it? 1471 01:01:53,611 --> 01:01:55,156 ALL: Now! JUNIOR: I was nervous. 1472 01:01:55,156 --> 01:01:56,993 Are people gonna think we're crazy? 1473 01:01:56,993 --> 01:01:58,830 Are they gonna take us seriously? 1474 01:01:58,830 --> 01:02:01,335 Are we gonna look like a joke? [cars honking] 1475 01:02:01,335 --> 01:02:04,090 But my heart said, 1476 01:02:04,090 --> 01:02:05,969 "No matter what, you're taking your butt there, 1477 01:02:05,969 --> 01:02:08,265 and you're gonna help her just the way she has helped you." 1478 01:02:08,265 --> 01:02:12,023 ALL: End conservatorship abuse. End conservatorship abuse. 1479 01:02:12,023 --> 01:02:13,943 ‐ We think that, you know, the conservatorship 1480 01:02:13,943 --> 01:02:16,532 she's been under seems unjust. 1481 01:02:16,532 --> 01:02:18,160 ‐ You know, it was effective 1482 01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:19,997 because we brought attention to the media. 1483 01:02:19,997 --> 01:02:22,544 ‐ A #FreeBritney movement is behind me. 1484 01:02:22,544 --> 01:02:23,713 PERSON: Dear Britney. 1485 01:02:23,713 --> 01:02:25,174 ‐ Dear Britney. ‐ Dear Britney. 1486 01:02:25,174 --> 01:02:26,511 ‐ We grew, and we grew, and we grew, and we grew. 1487 01:02:26,511 --> 01:02:28,640 ‐ I support you. I stand by you. 1488 01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:29,808 ‐ Britney Spears needs our help. 1489 01:02:29,808 --> 01:02:30,977 ‐ Why is it so hard to get out of? 1490 01:02:30,977 --> 01:02:31,979 Why is she still in it? 1491 01:02:31,979 --> 01:02:33,399 ‐ This is Rose McGowan saying 1492 01:02:33,399 --> 01:02:34,693 free Britney. 1493 01:02:34,693 --> 01:02:37,699 ‐ Free Britney! 1494 01:02:37,699 --> 01:02:39,912 [person squeals, crowd cheers] 1495 01:02:41,081 --> 01:02:42,417 LIZ: The Free Britney movement 1496 01:02:42,417 --> 01:02:44,838 runs from the innocuous to the extreme. 1497 01:02:44,838 --> 01:02:46,425 REPORTER: Britney Spears' father, Jamie, 1498 01:02:46,425 --> 01:02:49,013 speaking out against the viral campaign. 1499 01:02:49,013 --> 01:02:51,686 ‐ Jamie tells "Page Six" that the movement is a joke. 1500 01:02:51,686 --> 01:02:53,356 REPORTER: "All these conspiracy theorists 1501 01:02:53,356 --> 01:02:54,733 "don't know anything. 1502 01:02:54,733 --> 01:02:56,404 "It's up to the court of California 1503 01:02:56,404 --> 01:02:59,075 to decide what's best for my daughter." 1504 01:02:59,075 --> 01:03:00,412 LEANNE: Yeah, you hear enough of that, 1505 01:03:00,412 --> 01:03:01,872 and you do start to question. 1506 01:03:01,872 --> 01:03:03,418 Like, I don't‐‐ maybe I'm delusional. 1507 01:03:03,418 --> 01:03:04,795 Maybe I don't know. 1508 01:03:04,795 --> 01:03:07,426 I should just listen to the people who "know" her. 1509 01:03:07,426 --> 01:03:09,763 But then when you‐‐you start to connect the dots 1510 01:03:09,763 --> 01:03:11,057 and you start to talk to other people 1511 01:03:11,057 --> 01:03:12,811 who have the exact same thoughts, 1512 01:03:12,811 --> 01:03:14,356 that this isn't right. 1513 01:03:14,356 --> 01:03:17,069 INTERVIEWER: You ever question, like, what if you're wrong? 1514 01:03:17,069 --> 01:03:19,198 ‐ If I'm wrong and one day Britney does come out 1515 01:03:19,198 --> 01:03:20,702 and tells us that we're wrong 1516 01:03:20,702 --> 01:03:23,333 and leave her alone, we will do just that. 1517 01:03:25,629 --> 01:03:27,214 JOE: At this point, 1518 01:03:27,214 --> 01:03:28,926 things in the conservatorship world 1519 01:03:28,926 --> 01:03:30,262 start to change, 1520 01:03:30,262 --> 01:03:32,224 and you start to hear these tabloid reports 1521 01:03:32,224 --> 01:03:34,438 that Britney and her father 1522 01:03:34,438 --> 01:03:36,734 are no longer on good terms 1523 01:03:36,734 --> 01:03:39,490 and that at a certain point Kevin Federline 1524 01:03:39,490 --> 01:03:42,996 takes out a restraining order against Jamie Spears, 1525 01:03:42,996 --> 01:03:45,960 claiming that he had a physical altercation 1526 01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:48,800 with one of Britney's young sons. 1527 01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:58,861 Then you start to have all these machinations 1528 01:03:58,861 --> 01:04:01,867 behind the scenes that seem to change 1529 01:04:01,867 --> 01:04:04,540 not only the shape of what the conservatorship is 1530 01:04:04,540 --> 01:04:07,211 but the dynamics within the family 1531 01:04:07,211 --> 01:04:09,550 and within the business of Britney Spears. 1532 01:04:09,550 --> 01:04:10,802 ‐ In the wake of her recent health troubles, 1533 01:04:10,802 --> 01:04:12,221 Spears' mom is now requesting 1534 01:04:12,221 --> 01:04:13,975 to be involved in her medical decisions. 1535 01:04:13,975 --> 01:04:15,478 NEWS ANCHOR: Her mother, telling the court 1536 01:04:15,478 --> 01:04:18,651 she just wants to have a voice in her daughter's life. 1537 01:04:23,745 --> 01:04:25,999 ‐ Like, what does "Free Britney" mean 1538 01:04:25,999 --> 01:04:27,168 from your understanding? 1539 01:04:27,168 --> 01:04:29,297 ‐ That I don't quite know, like, 1540 01:04:29,297 --> 01:04:32,052 what their‐‐what their meaning is, you know? 1541 01:04:32,052 --> 01:04:34,475 I don't know, maybe she's being confined or something 1542 01:04:34,475 --> 01:04:36,812 or held against her will in some capacity. 1543 01:04:36,812 --> 01:04:38,775 ‐ Do‐‐have you ever seen anything 1544 01:04:38,775 --> 01:04:40,110 that led you to be concerned 1545 01:04:40,110 --> 01:04:42,198 that your sister was being held against her will? 1546 01:04:43,826 --> 01:04:46,373 ‐ Uh, every day. The‐‐no, I'm joking. 1547 01:04:46,373 --> 01:04:48,628 I mean, like, wo‐‐the women in this family 1548 01:04:48,628 --> 01:04:52,218 are very, very strong‐minded and have their own opinion, 1549 01:04:52,218 --> 01:04:54,055 and they wanna do what they wanna do, 1550 01:04:54,055 --> 01:04:57,061 and as much as I admire that as a guy, being, 1551 01:04:57,061 --> 01:05:00,275 like, one of two guys in this entire family, 1552 01:05:00,275 --> 01:05:01,695 it kinda sucks, man. 1553 01:05:01,695 --> 01:05:03,031 ‐ They're strong‐minded. 1554 01:05:03,031 --> 01:05:05,453 They want to do what they want to do. 1555 01:05:05,453 --> 01:05:07,791 Kinda constitutional, you know? 1556 01:05:07,791 --> 01:05:10,797 ‐ I mean, yeah, and they have a right to do that, you know? 1557 01:05:15,306 --> 01:05:16,767 I mean, she's been in this thing 1558 01:05:16,767 --> 01:05:18,437 for quite some time now. 1559 01:05:18,437 --> 01:05:20,859 Obviously there was a need for it in the beginning, 1560 01:05:20,859 --> 01:05:23,029 and now they‐‐you know, they've made some changes, 1561 01:05:23,029 --> 01:05:25,785 and, you know, all we can do is kinda hope for the best. 1562 01:05:25,785 --> 01:05:27,162 ‐ Right, you had to have asked her about it. 1563 01:05:27,162 --> 01:05:29,960 ‐ I mean‐‐I mean, she's always wanted to get out of it. 1564 01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:34,010 What level of that is the reality, who knows? 1565 01:05:41,901 --> 01:05:43,738 CROWD: The conservatorship has got to go. 1566 01:05:43,738 --> 01:05:46,242 Hey, hey, ho, ho, 1567 01:05:46,242 --> 01:05:47,787 the conservatorship has got to go. 1568 01:05:47,787 --> 01:05:49,081 Hey, hey. 1569 01:05:49,081 --> 01:05:50,208 LIZ: Britney's case, I think, 1570 01:05:50,208 --> 01:05:52,087 has brought a lot of scrutiny 1571 01:05:52,087 --> 01:05:54,258 to the conservatorship system in general. 1572 01:05:54,258 --> 01:05:55,929 ALL: End conservatorship of youth. 1573 01:05:55,929 --> 01:05:58,224 LIZ: Flaws in Britney's case could reveal flaws 1574 01:05:58,224 --> 01:06:00,563 in the bigger conservatorship system. 1575 01:06:00,563 --> 01:06:02,066 ‐ Free Britney! 1576 01:06:02,066 --> 01:06:05,238 ‐ And it's now, very recently, in August 2020 that, like, 1577 01:06:05,238 --> 01:06:07,744 for the first time ever in the entire 12 years 1578 01:06:07,744 --> 01:06:10,165 the conservatorship has been in effect, 1579 01:06:10,165 --> 01:06:11,835 Britney appears to be 1580 01:06:11,835 --> 01:06:14,758 publicly signaling that she wants changes. 1581 01:06:14,758 --> 01:06:18,432 ‐ Britney, with the help of her lawyer, Sam Ingham, 1582 01:06:18,432 --> 01:06:22,607 indicates that she would like a bank 1583 01:06:22,607 --> 01:06:26,573 to become the overseer of her estate. 1584 01:06:26,573 --> 01:06:28,201 The other thing that I think we're seeing 1585 01:06:28,201 --> 01:06:29,413 for the first time 1586 01:06:29,413 --> 01:06:31,625 is that she's sort of acknowledging 1587 01:06:31,625 --> 01:06:35,675 the outside phenomenon of Britney Spears fans 1588 01:06:35,675 --> 01:06:37,470 coming out against the conservatorship. 1589 01:06:37,470 --> 01:06:39,307 "At this point in her life, Britney welcomes 1590 01:06:39,307 --> 01:06:42,313 "and appreciates the informed support of her many fans. 1591 01:06:42,313 --> 01:06:45,068 "Britney herself is vehemently opposed to this effort 1592 01:06:45,068 --> 01:06:47,239 "by her father to keep her legal struggle 1593 01:06:47,239 --> 01:06:50,955 "hidden away in the closet as a family secret. 1594 01:06:50,955 --> 01:06:54,086 "In this case, it is not an exaggeration to say 1595 01:06:54,086 --> 01:06:56,925 that the whole world is watching." 1596 01:06:56,925 --> 01:06:59,473 This is a huge pivot. 1597 01:06:59,473 --> 01:07:03,647 ‐ The document in which Britney basically supports the movement 1598 01:07:03,647 --> 01:07:07,405 and says that she‐‐ appreciative of our support, 1599 01:07:07,405 --> 01:07:09,951 our "informed support," 1600 01:07:09,951 --> 01:07:11,580 'cause we've done our research. 1601 01:07:11,580 --> 01:07:14,001 And in the document, it mentioned 1602 01:07:14,001 --> 01:07:16,590 that they‐‐they thought it could be a battle, 1603 01:07:16,590 --> 01:07:20,932 a struggle to remove Jamie as conservator of her estate 1604 01:07:20,932 --> 01:07:25,733 and that that's kind of what it's shaping up to be. 1605 01:07:28,322 --> 01:07:30,493 PARIS: I love her so much, and I just‐‐ 1606 01:07:30,493 --> 01:07:31,829 I feel that if you're an adult, 1607 01:07:31,829 --> 01:07:34,166 you should be able to live your life 1608 01:07:34,166 --> 01:07:36,463 and not be controlled, 1609 01:07:36,463 --> 01:07:37,966 and I think maybe that stems 1610 01:07:37,966 --> 01:07:39,301 from me being controlled so much, 1611 01:07:39,301 --> 01:07:41,974 so I can understand how that would feel. 1612 01:07:41,974 --> 01:07:43,352 PERSON: Let me point out to you 1613 01:07:43,352 --> 01:07:45,523 a few things about Jamie Spears, her dad. 1614 01:07:45,523 --> 01:07:47,234 His attitude from his attorney 1615 01:07:47,234 --> 01:07:50,073 is that this is in place for a reason, 1616 01:07:50,073 --> 01:07:51,702 but she does have freedom. 1617 01:07:51,702 --> 01:07:53,372 She travels. She does stuff. 1618 01:07:53,372 --> 01:07:56,210 It's not like she's under lock and key. 1619 01:07:56,210 --> 01:07:57,547 ACTIVIST: When do we want it? ALL: Now! 1620 01:07:57,547 --> 01:07:59,426 ACTIVIST: What do we want? ALL: Free Britney! 1621 01:07:59,426 --> 01:08:01,847 ‐ When do we want it? ALL: Now! 1622 01:08:01,847 --> 01:08:04,059 LIZ: So on November 10th, there's a court hearing, 1623 01:08:04,059 --> 01:08:06,356 and attorneys for Britney, for Jamie, 1624 01:08:06,356 --> 01:08:08,819 and for Lynne are all present, and it's pretty rare 1625 01:08:08,819 --> 01:08:11,032 in that the public is allowed to be there as well. 1626 01:08:11,032 --> 01:08:12,702 LEANNE: There's such a limited amount‐‐you know, 1627 01:08:12,702 --> 01:08:14,706 number of participants that can join. 1628 01:08:14,706 --> 01:08:17,378 We will send in a couple people to listen in, 1629 01:08:17,378 --> 01:08:19,215 and I will update. I have a Google Doc, 1630 01:08:19,215 --> 01:08:20,968 and I'm taking, like, feverish notes. 1631 01:08:20,968 --> 01:08:23,682 ‐ Leanne and Megan are sharing a Google note document. 1632 01:08:23,682 --> 01:08:25,311 ‐ Oh, okay. ‐ So Leanne is taking notes, 1633 01:08:25,311 --> 01:08:26,563 and then Megan's reading, 1634 01:08:26,563 --> 01:08:28,191 the notes off the Google document, 1635 01:08:28,191 --> 01:08:31,072 so that's how we're finding out the information. 1636 01:08:31,072 --> 01:08:32,575 MEGAN: Hey, guys, it's Megan. 1637 01:08:32,575 --> 01:08:34,245 The judge has not made any decisions yet, 1638 01:08:34,245 --> 01:08:35,831 but we did wanna give you a quick update. 1639 01:08:35,831 --> 01:08:37,251 LIZ: For the first time we're starting 1640 01:08:37,251 --> 01:08:39,213 to see Britney's lawyer raise objections 1641 01:08:39,213 --> 01:08:42,052 to Jamie's management of Britney's estate. 1642 01:08:42,052 --> 01:08:43,472 ‐ James' attorneys were arguing 1643 01:08:43,472 --> 01:08:45,351 that there's not really a conflict 1644 01:08:45,351 --> 01:08:47,271 between Britney and James, 1645 01:08:47,271 --> 01:08:51,070 but then Ingham came on and said that that's not true 1646 01:08:51,070 --> 01:08:52,740 and that Britney is afraid of her father 1647 01:08:52,740 --> 01:08:54,953 and that Britney has told him on multiple occasions 1648 01:08:54,953 --> 01:08:56,415 that she is refusing to work 1649 01:08:56,415 --> 01:08:59,421 until he is no longer managing her career. 1650 01:08:59,421 --> 01:09:02,050 [pensive music] 1651 01:09:02,050 --> 01:09:04,054 ACTIVIST: Oh. MEGAN: Lynne came in. 1652 01:09:04,054 --> 01:09:05,599 Lynne's lawyers came in. 1653 01:09:05,599 --> 01:09:08,271 She wants no ill will, told Jamie that, said, 1654 01:09:08,271 --> 01:09:11,611 "Lynne wants new sole conservator of the estate. 1655 01:09:11,611 --> 01:09:13,239 "It is no secret that the relationship 1656 01:09:13,239 --> 01:09:15,953 between Britney and James has been contentious." 1657 01:09:15,953 --> 01:09:17,749 ‐ Okay. ‐ "We are here for Britney. 1658 01:09:17,749 --> 01:09:20,086 "Lynne wants her daughter to wake up tomorrow 1659 01:09:20,086 --> 01:09:21,631 and see brighter days." 1660 01:09:21,631 --> 01:09:24,053 ACTIVIST: Fight for your daughter. 1661 01:09:24,053 --> 01:09:25,639 LIZ: Some people would argue 1662 01:09:25,639 --> 01:09:27,769 that there's a conflict of interest at times 1663 01:09:27,769 --> 01:09:31,233 in the conservatorship system because in Britney's case, 1664 01:09:31,233 --> 01:09:35,033 she is paying for almost everyone on all sides, 1665 01:09:35,033 --> 01:09:38,081 so she's paying for not only her own lawyer. 1666 01:09:38,081 --> 01:09:40,126 She's paying for her conservators, 1667 01:09:40,126 --> 01:09:42,757 and she's paying for her conservators' lawyers, 1668 01:09:42,757 --> 01:09:46,306 so do they always have her best interest at heart? 1669 01:09:46,306 --> 01:09:48,644 ‐ Judge is speaking. ‐ Judge is speaking. 1670 01:09:48,644 --> 01:09:50,523 ‐ This is just in from the judge. 1671 01:09:50,523 --> 01:09:53,487 She says, "I am not going to be making an order 1672 01:09:53,487 --> 01:09:56,827 to dis‐‐to suspend Mr. Spears today." 1673 01:09:56,827 --> 01:09:58,622 ACTIVIST: They're not gonna suspend Jamie. 1674 01:09:58,622 --> 01:10:00,876 MEGAN: Today. ACTIVIST: Today. 1675 01:10:00,876 --> 01:10:03,297 NEWS REPORTER: The singer lost her latest court attempt 1676 01:10:03,297 --> 01:10:06,805 to strip her father of the court‐appointed title he has. 1677 01:10:06,805 --> 01:10:08,809 NEWS REPORTER: The judge ultimately declining to remove 1678 01:10:08,809 --> 01:10:11,398 Jamie Spears as conservator at this time, 1679 01:10:11,398 --> 01:10:14,111 but Britney's choice of wealth manager, Bessemer Trust, 1680 01:10:14,111 --> 01:10:15,948 was named as the co‐conservator 1681 01:10:15,948 --> 01:10:18,328 of her $60 million estate, 1682 01:10:18,328 --> 01:10:20,499 a small victory for Britney Spears. 1683 01:10:20,499 --> 01:10:22,420 ALL: Free her! Free her! Free her! 1684 01:10:22,420 --> 01:10:23,839 INTERVIEWER: What does that mean? 1685 01:10:23,839 --> 01:10:25,843 LIZ: It means that he has not stepped down. 1686 01:10:25,843 --> 01:10:28,599 Instead of stepping down, Jamie has said, 1687 01:10:28,599 --> 01:10:29,934 "No, I've done a good job. 1688 01:10:29,934 --> 01:10:32,189 "I love my daughter a lot, and actually, 1689 01:10:32,189 --> 01:10:34,694 it would harm Britney if I were to step down." 1690 01:10:34,694 --> 01:10:37,950 The judge allowed Britney to add on this bank 1691 01:10:37,950 --> 01:10:40,205 to be her co‐conservator of her estate, 1692 01:10:40,205 --> 01:10:44,087 but the judge also ruled not to remove Jamie at this point. 1693 01:10:44,087 --> 01:10:47,052 The judge left the door open as to potentially remove 1694 01:10:47,052 --> 01:10:48,597 Jamie further down the road, 1695 01:10:48,597 --> 01:10:51,143 but at this point he's still in charge of her money. 1696 01:10:58,241 --> 01:10:59,702 ADAM: What's really interesting is that 1697 01:10:59,702 --> 01:11:01,873 Sam Ingham, the other day, in court said, 1698 01:11:01,873 --> 01:11:04,379 "Britney's a high‐functioning conservatee." 1699 01:11:04,379 --> 01:11:06,675 I don't even know what that means, right? 1700 01:11:06,675 --> 01:11:09,347 If she's functioning enough to say, "Hey, I don't want 1701 01:11:09,347 --> 01:11:11,016 "my father to be conservator. 1702 01:11:11,016 --> 01:11:14,399 I'm not gonna perform if he is the conservator..." 1703 01:11:15,734 --> 01:11:18,197 Maybe she doesn't need a conservatorship. 1704 01:11:18,197 --> 01:11:20,243 But the problem is, we don't know what we don't know. 1705 01:11:22,915 --> 01:11:24,919 FELICIA: Okay, this is one of my very favorite pictures. 1706 01:11:24,919 --> 01:11:27,550 It is one of the very first pictures that we took 1707 01:11:27,550 --> 01:11:29,094 when we were in New York City, 1708 01:11:29,094 --> 01:11:32,852 and we wanted to have, um, Times Square behind us. 1709 01:11:32,852 --> 01:11:36,025 First time in Times Square. Oh. 1710 01:11:36,025 --> 01:11:38,488 ‐ The image of Britney that we were sold 1711 01:11:38,488 --> 01:11:40,367 when she first hit the scene was this, 1712 01:11:40,367 --> 01:11:42,914 you know, perfect all‐American girl next door, 1713 01:11:42,914 --> 01:11:47,590 but a lot of fans are, you know, not that. 1714 01:11:47,590 --> 01:11:50,596 They were people like myself who felt like 1715 01:11:50,596 --> 01:11:52,934 they didn't fit in, and I think there was 1716 01:11:52,934 --> 01:11:56,316 some wanting to aspire to that image. 1717 01:11:56,316 --> 01:11:59,948 ‐ See, this is my first tour on my very own. 1718 01:11:59,948 --> 01:12:04,415 KEVIN: We know now that Britney wasn't perfect. 1719 01:12:04,415 --> 01:12:07,170 ‐ Are you ready to party? [cheers and applause] 1720 01:12:07,170 --> 01:12:08,966 KEVIN: Britney had to navigate 1721 01:12:08,966 --> 01:12:11,429 being told who she could be and what she could do. 1722 01:12:11,429 --> 01:12:13,099 ‐ Gonna wear what I wanna wear, you know? 1723 01:12:13,099 --> 01:12:14,936 You can't concern yourself with everyone. 1724 01:12:14,936 --> 01:12:16,439 Otherwise you'll go crazy. 1725 01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:21,533 ‐ I think that that story of control and identity 1726 01:12:21,533 --> 01:12:23,620 really resonates. 1727 01:12:23,620 --> 01:12:26,751 FELICIA: This is‐‐okay, this makes me very happy. 1728 01:12:26,751 --> 01:12:29,214 We went from Paris to London 1729 01:12:29,214 --> 01:12:31,636 underneath the water on a train, 1730 01:12:31,636 --> 01:12:33,306 and we thought that was about the coolest thing 1731 01:12:33,306 --> 01:12:34,934 we'd ever done. 1732 01:12:34,934 --> 01:12:37,898 I know at some point she will tell her story. 1733 01:12:37,898 --> 01:12:41,906 I know she will, and I am so grateful 1734 01:12:41,906 --> 01:12:44,328 for when that point comes that she's able to sit down, 1735 01:12:44,328 --> 01:12:48,712 and, you know, everything will fall into place. 1736 01:12:51,008 --> 01:12:53,179 BRITNEY: See the pink rose? 1737 01:12:53,179 --> 01:12:55,601 See how beautiful that is? 1738 01:12:55,601 --> 01:12:57,145 Watch. 1739 01:13:00,778 --> 01:13:02,990 It's just soap. 1740 01:13:02,990 --> 01:13:06,038 That's all it is. It's just soap. 1741 01:13:06,038 --> 01:13:09,127 It's not really a flower at all. 1742 01:13:09,127 --> 01:13:11,341 It's just soap. 1743 01:13:11,341 --> 01:13:14,847 See? Fooled ya. 1744 01:13:19,272 --> 01:13:22,278 [soft dramatic music] 1745 01:13:22,278 --> 01:13:29,292 ♪ ♪ 1746 01:13:43,697 --> 01:13:50,711 ♪ ♪ 136997

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