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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:14,030 --> 00:00:16,798 - Female narrator: In a serene cemetery, 2 00:00:16,875 --> 00:00:20,761 A granite headstone marks the grave of a young mother. 3 00:00:20,837 --> 00:00:24,473 But if justice is to be served for her tragic murder, 4 00:00:24,549 --> 00:00:28,143 Her resting place will be anything but final. 5 00:00:28,178 --> 00:00:32,147 - I saw my wife laying on the floor...Dead. 6 00:00:32,182 --> 00:00:34,867 - Narrator: A brutal murder unsolved. 7 00:00:34,943 --> 00:00:37,694 - It would have to be someone she knew and trusted. 8 00:00:37,705 --> 00:00:40,322 - Thirty years of not knowing what to think 9 00:00:40,357 --> 00:00:42,783 Is its own kind of torture. 10 00:00:42,859 --> 00:00:45,494 - Narrator: A chance phone call resurrects the case. 11 00:00:45,570 --> 00:00:47,871 - [police siren wails] 12 00:00:47,882 --> 00:00:49,706 - Wayne: We wanted our suspect to know 13 00:00:49,717 --> 00:00:53,635 Dna evidence still exists, and we were searching for it. 14 00:00:54,889 --> 00:00:57,547 - Narrator: Does the key evidence still exist 15 00:00:57,558 --> 00:01:02,394 After three decades underground? 16 00:01:02,471 --> 00:01:04,897 - When we open the casket up-- - [casket lid creaking] 17 00:01:04,973 --> 00:01:06,306 - Angela: --We just stood there 18 00:01:06,383 --> 00:01:07,733 And we kind of looked at each other. 19 00:01:07,810 --> 00:01:09,943 And then we kind of went... 20 00:01:12,722 --> 00:01:14,364 - I had never seen anything like that. 21 00:01:17,727 --> 00:01:27,211 - ♪ 22 00:01:28,446 --> 00:01:30,038 - ♪ 23 00:01:30,073 --> 00:01:34,543 - Narrator: It's March 11, 1980... 24 00:01:34,619 --> 00:01:37,387 In the rural town of columbus, wisconsin. 25 00:01:40,768 --> 00:01:44,845 - David: It's a pretty quaint, tight-knit community. 26 00:01:44,921 --> 00:01:47,347 The pace is slow. 27 00:01:47,424 --> 00:01:51,026 Classic small-town americana. 28 00:01:52,637 --> 00:01:55,605 - Narrator: 23-year-old lane mcintyre is heading home 29 00:01:55,616 --> 00:01:59,860 After working a long night shift at a local paper plant. 30 00:01:59,936 --> 00:02:03,572 - At 7 o'clock in the morning, 31 00:02:03,648 --> 00:02:06,291 When you get done with a night's work... 32 00:02:06,368 --> 00:02:10,954 I'm cold, and I'm tired, and all I could think about 33 00:02:10,965 --> 00:02:14,800 Is crawling into a warm bed with my wife. 34 00:02:16,804 --> 00:02:20,922 When I approached the front door, 35 00:02:20,999 --> 00:02:24,259 The dog was outside on a chain, barking. 36 00:02:24,294 --> 00:02:26,812 And I thought, "well, that's unusual." 37 00:02:26,889 --> 00:02:28,597 - [dog barks] 38 00:02:28,632 --> 00:02:30,432 - Lane: I stepped inside the door 39 00:02:30,467 --> 00:02:33,727 And stood there for a while, 40 00:02:33,803 --> 00:02:36,488 Not believing what my eyes were seeing. 41 00:02:39,851 --> 00:02:44,997 I saw my wife laying on the floor...Dead. 42 00:02:45,073 --> 00:02:50,285 And it was like I was in a tunnel. 43 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,547 So I'm thinking, "my son, christopher, is he okay?" 44 00:02:54,658 --> 00:02:56,458 - Narrator: He rushes into the bedroom 45 00:02:56,534 --> 00:03:00,086 And luckily finds his son unharmed in his crib. 46 00:03:00,163 --> 00:03:04,466 - Lane: And I thought, "oh, thank god, christopher's okay. 47 00:03:04,501 --> 00:03:06,843 And my head was spinning." 48 00:03:06,854 --> 00:03:09,855 The only phone number I had memorized in my head 49 00:03:09,932 --> 00:03:11,690 Was my parents' phone number. 50 00:03:11,767 --> 00:03:15,810 And I said, "mom, you have to call the police for me. 51 00:03:15,845 --> 00:03:17,687 I think marilyn's dead." 52 00:03:17,698 --> 00:03:19,031 - [police siren wails] 53 00:03:19,107 --> 00:03:21,858 - Narrator: Columbus police race to the scene. 54 00:03:21,869 --> 00:03:24,444 - Wayne: In 1980, a murder in columbia county 55 00:03:24,521 --> 00:03:27,539 Was something of a rarity. It didn't happen very often. 56 00:03:27,616 --> 00:03:29,824 - [police siren wails] 57 00:03:29,901 --> 00:03:31,826 - As a young person growing up in this area, 58 00:03:31,903 --> 00:03:34,963 I don't recall any homicides or anything like that. 59 00:03:36,074 --> 00:03:38,124 - Narrator: But it will be decades before 60 00:03:38,201 --> 00:03:41,670 Sgt. Daniel garrigan and lt. Wayne smith 61 00:03:41,746 --> 00:03:44,047 At the columbia county sheriff's department 62 00:03:44,058 --> 00:03:47,342 Learn about this tragic day. 63 00:03:47,377 --> 00:03:49,844 - [beeping] - [indistinct radio chatter] 64 00:03:49,921 --> 00:03:52,514 - Wayne: So when police arrived at the house, 65 00:03:52,549 --> 00:03:54,483 They discovered a woman on the floor. 66 00:03:57,053 --> 00:04:00,355 She had been brutally beaten. 67 00:04:00,390 --> 00:04:01,523 - Daniel: She also had a kitchen 68 00:04:01,599 --> 00:04:04,868 Or steak knife stuck in her chest. 69 00:04:07,564 --> 00:04:08,997 It was rough to see that. 70 00:04:12,902 --> 00:04:15,036 - Narrator: Moving past the horrific sight, 71 00:04:15,071 --> 00:04:18,039 Investigators discover lane cradling his baby. 72 00:04:18,116 --> 00:04:21,760 - [baby crying] 73 00:04:21,837 --> 00:04:25,213 - The victim was identified as marilyn mcintyre, 74 00:04:25,248 --> 00:04:29,759 An 18-year-old wife and mother. 75 00:04:29,770 --> 00:04:31,386 - Lane: She was beautiful. 76 00:04:31,421 --> 00:04:34,556 She always had a smile on her face. 77 00:04:34,591 --> 00:04:36,525 You know, she always saw the good in people. 78 00:04:39,262 --> 00:04:40,946 - Narrator: Investigators get to work 79 00:04:41,023 --> 00:04:44,065 Searching the apartment for clues... 80 00:04:44,142 --> 00:04:47,110 And immediately notice something significant. 81 00:04:47,121 --> 00:04:50,122 - Wayne: There wasn't any signs of forced entry. 82 00:04:50,198 --> 00:04:53,742 And it appeared as though marilyn had allowed her attacker 83 00:04:53,777 --> 00:04:56,244 To enter the residence. 84 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,621 - Daniel: Assuming that it's someone that you know, 85 00:04:58,632 --> 00:05:00,248 They know you have a young child there. 86 00:05:00,283 --> 00:05:02,417 And, I mean, it's about as coldhearted 87 00:05:02,452 --> 00:05:04,961 As I suppose you could be. 88 00:05:04,972 --> 00:05:06,046 - Wayne: Police also discovered 89 00:05:06,122 --> 00:05:08,890 That there was blunt force trauma to her head area. 90 00:05:13,004 --> 00:05:15,096 - Narrator: Investigators begin going over the scene 91 00:05:15,173 --> 00:05:18,600 With painstaking precision, trying to figure out 92 00:05:18,676 --> 00:05:22,937 Who could've inflicted such horror on to this young mother. 93 00:05:23,014 --> 00:05:26,274 - Wayne: We were able to collect fingerprint evidence, 94 00:05:26,309 --> 00:05:30,278 Bloodstain evidence, hairs from an unknown source, 95 00:05:30,313 --> 00:05:34,833 And also the knife that was thrust into her chest. 96 00:05:34,910 --> 00:05:37,911 We additionally found what we believed was a bloodstain 97 00:05:37,987 --> 00:05:39,629 In the bathroom sink. 98 00:05:43,085 --> 00:05:45,010 - Narrator: While the forensic team works, 99 00:05:45,087 --> 00:05:47,462 Detectives canvass the area. 100 00:05:47,497 --> 00:05:49,756 Someone may have heard or seen something 101 00:05:49,833 --> 00:05:52,100 When marilyn was brutally slain. 102 00:05:54,855 --> 00:05:58,473 And they immediately find a witness. 103 00:05:58,508 --> 00:06:00,809 - Wayne: The upstairs neighbor was awakened around 3 a.M. 104 00:06:00,885 --> 00:06:03,686 That morning by the mcintyre family dog. 105 00:06:03,697 --> 00:06:05,197 - [dog barks] 106 00:06:05,273 --> 00:06:07,482 - Wayne: The dog was outside, barking. 107 00:06:07,517 --> 00:06:08,858 She stated that this had never happened before, 108 00:06:08,869 --> 00:06:10,118 And that was unusual. 109 00:06:11,354 --> 00:06:15,490 - David: It marked a point in time in which 110 00:06:15,525 --> 00:06:19,753 Someone else was at the residence. 111 00:06:21,030 --> 00:06:25,166 - Narrator: They've got a possible time: 3 a.M. 112 00:06:25,201 --> 00:06:26,835 - Wayne: We clearly have a homicide. 113 00:06:26,911 --> 00:06:28,336 But as far as who had done it 114 00:06:28,371 --> 00:06:32,173 And exactly how they had done it was unknown. 115 00:06:32,250 --> 00:06:34,226 - Narrator: It's frustrating, but police hope that 116 00:06:34,302 --> 00:06:38,221 The forensics collected at the scene might give them a lead... 117 00:06:38,232 --> 00:06:40,816 Or there's something they can learn at autopsy. 118 00:06:43,386 --> 00:06:45,737 - Angela: There is evidence of strangulation 119 00:06:45,814 --> 00:06:47,781 And traumatic sexual contact. 120 00:06:49,058 --> 00:06:50,224 She was badly beaten. 121 00:06:50,260 --> 00:06:54,154 She had multiple lacerations to her head and her face. 122 00:06:54,230 --> 00:06:59,075 She had very dark bruising that comes from being, you know, 123 00:06:59,086 --> 00:07:02,162 Struck quite recklessly. 124 00:07:02,238 --> 00:07:04,205 - Wayne: The pathologist had determined that the knife 125 00:07:04,282 --> 00:07:07,050 That had been thrust into her chest was postmortem. 126 00:07:08,244 --> 00:07:11,212 When you see this level of violence, 127 00:07:11,289 --> 00:07:15,008 Typically, it's a crime that's committed by someone that knows 128 00:07:15,084 --> 00:07:18,603 The victim and has anger towards them for some reason. 129 00:07:20,965 --> 00:07:23,775 - Narrator: Three days after the brutal murder, 130 00:07:23,852 --> 00:07:26,728 Marilyn mcintyre is laid to rest. 131 00:07:26,763 --> 00:07:28,938 - [birds chirping] 132 00:07:28,949 --> 00:07:31,733 - There's this sunny open field. 133 00:07:31,768 --> 00:07:34,736 There's full-grown trees. There's shade. 134 00:07:34,812 --> 00:07:37,247 She has a pink granite headstone. 135 00:07:39,793 --> 00:07:41,242 I give her yellow flowers. 136 00:07:41,277 --> 00:07:44,579 Yellow was her favorite color. 137 00:07:44,656 --> 00:07:47,132 They're artificial 'cause I want them to last longer. 138 00:07:47,209 --> 00:07:53,713 - ♪ 139 00:07:53,790 --> 00:07:55,390 - I lost my best friend. 140 00:07:57,627 --> 00:07:59,928 She was special. 141 00:08:00,004 --> 00:08:03,765 And she did not deserve what happened to her at all. 142 00:08:03,841 --> 00:08:06,935 She did not. 143 00:08:06,970 --> 00:08:10,989 - David: Marilyn was known as a very sweet girl. 144 00:08:11,066 --> 00:08:14,275 That is the quandary when you have someone who doesn't seem 145 00:08:14,352 --> 00:08:19,155 To have anyone who would want to cause them any harm. 146 00:08:19,166 --> 00:08:22,951 And then to be murdered so brutally, uh, 147 00:08:22,986 --> 00:08:25,620 Really is befuddling. 148 00:08:25,655 --> 00:08:29,123 - ♪ 149 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:30,291 - Narrator: Who would have wanted 150 00:08:30,368 --> 00:08:32,385 This beloved young woman dead? 151 00:08:35,206 --> 00:08:37,966 - Wayne: Lane was immediately considered a person of interest 152 00:08:38,042 --> 00:08:41,102 Simply because of his relationship to the victim. 153 00:08:43,214 --> 00:08:45,473 - Narrator: Lane immediately-- and strenuously-- 154 00:08:45,508 --> 00:08:47,642 Denies killing his wife. 155 00:08:47,677 --> 00:08:51,104 He tells investigators that he was working all evening 156 00:08:51,180 --> 00:08:53,273 The night of the murder. 157 00:08:53,349 --> 00:08:55,775 - Wayne: He was emotional and upset. 158 00:08:55,852 --> 00:08:59,028 He told us he left for work around 10 p.M. 159 00:08:59,039 --> 00:09:01,155 He was at work overnight and didn't come home 160 00:09:01,232 --> 00:09:05,827 Until just before 7 a.M. That next morning. 161 00:09:05,903 --> 00:09:07,453 Investigators spoke with supervisors 162 00:09:07,530 --> 00:09:09,163 To try and make certain 163 00:09:09,198 --> 00:09:12,875 That lane was actually at work and hadn't left. 164 00:09:12,886 --> 00:09:17,505 - David: His timecard at least supported he had been at work. 165 00:09:17,540 --> 00:09:20,058 But they did have breaks. 166 00:09:20,135 --> 00:09:23,011 He worked for the most part by himself. 167 00:09:23,087 --> 00:09:26,856 Lane mcintyre did not have an ironclad alibi. 168 00:09:28,885 --> 00:09:30,902 - Narrator: Investigators thoroughly dig into 169 00:09:30,979 --> 00:09:33,021 Lane's history... 170 00:09:33,056 --> 00:09:37,984 And immediately find something that makes them suspicious. 171 00:09:38,061 --> 00:09:39,986 - David: Days before marilyn was murdered, 172 00:09:40,063 --> 00:09:44,708 Lane had taken out a life insurance policy on marilyn. 173 00:09:47,236 --> 00:09:50,204 In addition to opportunity, 174 00:09:50,281 --> 00:09:52,215 Now you have a financial motive. 175 00:09:53,409 --> 00:09:55,760 - Wayne: When you hear that someone purchased insurance, 176 00:09:55,837 --> 00:09:59,714 And shortly after that insurance is purchased, someone dies, 177 00:09:59,749 --> 00:10:01,382 That's a red flag. 178 00:10:01,417 --> 00:10:04,177 - Narrator: All eyes are trained on the victim's husband, 179 00:10:04,253 --> 00:10:06,888 Lane mcintyre. 180 00:10:06,923 --> 00:10:09,316 Did he brutally murder his young wife? 181 00:10:10,468 --> 00:10:13,895 Coming up, the suspect pool widens, 182 00:10:13,971 --> 00:10:16,105 But the killer remains a mystery. 183 00:10:16,116 --> 00:10:18,066 - David: There's the old adage: 184 00:10:18,101 --> 00:10:21,235 Innocent stay and the guilty flee. 185 00:10:21,270 --> 00:10:23,955 - Narrator: Then, the last resort. 186 00:10:24,032 --> 00:10:26,207 - We made the exhumation public. 187 00:10:27,485 --> 00:10:29,911 - David: If you can rattle your suspect, 188 00:10:29,987 --> 00:10:33,840 They're more likely to do something stupid. 189 00:10:34,617 --> 00:10:37,844 - ♪ 190 00:10:42,716 --> 00:10:45,894 - ♪ 191 00:10:48,482 --> 00:10:50,765 - Narrator: After marilyn mcintyre is found murdered 192 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:54,602 In the small town of columbus, wisconsin... 193 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,656 Police and the public are beginning to think her husband, 194 00:10:57,732 --> 00:10:59,783 Lane, is the killer. 195 00:11:02,329 --> 00:11:04,570 - Wendy: I would go in bathrooms in bars 196 00:11:04,647 --> 00:11:06,498 And see writing on the wall, 197 00:11:06,574 --> 00:11:09,075 "lane mcintyre murdered his wife." 198 00:11:09,152 --> 00:11:10,919 My reaction was: My brother didn't do it. 199 00:11:13,322 --> 00:11:17,667 - Narrator: It doesn't help that lane quickly gets remarried. 200 00:11:17,678 --> 00:11:21,221 - I was a little shocked. It was a fast situation, yes. 201 00:11:23,332 --> 00:11:25,517 - Wayne: Certainly, a relationship would raise 202 00:11:25,593 --> 00:11:27,468 A lot of flags. 203 00:11:27,545 --> 00:11:28,636 Could this have been a relationship 204 00:11:28,713 --> 00:11:30,188 That was going on before the homicide 205 00:11:30,265 --> 00:11:32,181 And that might be a reason for the homicide? 206 00:11:32,192 --> 00:11:33,474 So that's certainly something 207 00:11:33,551 --> 00:11:35,485 That would be addressed and examined. 208 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:38,688 - Narrator: And then investigators receive a tip 209 00:11:38,699 --> 00:11:41,315 That points them in another direction. 210 00:11:41,392 --> 00:11:43,702 - ♪ 211 00:11:43,778 --> 00:11:48,364 - [indistinct chatter] 212 00:11:48,375 --> 00:11:49,699 - Narrator: As they continue to interview 213 00:11:49,710 --> 00:11:53,712 The mcintyres' circle of friends... 214 00:11:53,788 --> 00:11:57,507 A name emerges: Curtis forbes. 215 00:11:59,577 --> 00:12:01,886 - ♪ 216 00:12:01,963 --> 00:12:04,764 - Curt forbes was close friends with the mcintyres. 217 00:12:06,226 --> 00:12:09,552 - Curt forbes I knew from high school. 218 00:12:09,563 --> 00:12:12,513 Curtis and debbie would come over. 219 00:12:12,590 --> 00:12:16,317 We would get a pizza, turn on the stereo, that kind of thing. 220 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,396 - Wayne: Debbie and curt were reportedly 221 00:12:20,407 --> 00:12:23,691 Going through a rough patch. 222 00:12:23,726 --> 00:12:26,911 And marilyn had encouraged debbie to leave the relationship. 223 00:12:28,490 --> 00:12:31,032 - Narrator: Friends say curtis was angry at marilyn 224 00:12:31,067 --> 00:12:33,659 For influencing debbie to leave him. 225 00:12:33,736 --> 00:12:35,703 Could that be motive for murder? 226 00:12:35,738 --> 00:12:38,256 - ♪ 227 00:12:38,333 --> 00:12:39,707 - Wayne: When police spoke with curtis, 228 00:12:39,784 --> 00:12:40,741 They learned from him 229 00:12:40,777 --> 00:12:44,879 That he had been out on the town that night. 230 00:12:44,914 --> 00:12:46,923 - Narrator: Curtis tells police that he left the bar 231 00:12:46,933 --> 00:12:51,552 When it closed and went to visit a friend, lori beattie, 232 00:12:51,629 --> 00:12:53,930 Around 1 a.M. 233 00:12:53,940 --> 00:12:58,610 - About 1:10, maybe, 1:15, the doorbell rang. 234 00:12:58,686 --> 00:13:00,603 - [doorbell rings] 235 00:13:00,614 --> 00:13:02,280 - Lori: And curtis was there. 236 00:13:04,433 --> 00:13:06,567 I...Remember thinking that it was odd 237 00:13:06,644 --> 00:13:08,369 That he showed up at my house. 238 00:13:09,814 --> 00:13:11,030 I invited him in. 239 00:13:11,107 --> 00:13:15,701 And as we were coming in the front door-- 240 00:13:15,778 --> 00:13:16,744 - [phone rings] 241 00:13:16,779 --> 00:13:18,588 - Lori: --The telephone rang. 242 00:13:20,658 --> 00:13:25,637 And when I turned around to my then-boyfriend and I said, 243 00:13:25,713 --> 00:13:27,547 "where's curtis?" 244 00:13:27,623 --> 00:13:28,923 And he said, "he left. 245 00:13:28,958 --> 00:13:31,476 He was gonna see about getting some beer." 246 00:13:34,722 --> 00:13:37,690 And...Curtis never showed up again. 247 00:13:41,396 --> 00:13:43,938 - David: Curtis forbes told law enforcement that after 248 00:13:44,015 --> 00:13:49,110 He had left lori's house at 2:45, 249 00:13:49,145 --> 00:13:53,990 He spent the night with his, uh, fiancée, debbie addleson. 250 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:55,992 - Narrator: Investigators contact debbie, 251 00:13:56,002 --> 00:13:59,829 And she confirms that curtis was with her that night. 252 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:02,841 But one detail doesn't add up. 253 00:14:02,917 --> 00:14:07,795 - Debbie states that he arrived there shortly after 4 a.M. 254 00:14:07,830 --> 00:14:10,423 - David: That left curtis forbes with the problem 255 00:14:10,499 --> 00:14:11,799 Of having two and a half hours 256 00:14:11,876 --> 00:14:15,803 In which he couldn't account for his time. 257 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,523 - Narrator: And that time is exactly within the time 258 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,358 Marilyn was murdered. 259 00:14:22,345 --> 00:14:24,478 - When police went to try and have contact with him 260 00:14:24,555 --> 00:14:27,699 And see if he could clear up some of these issues, 261 00:14:27,775 --> 00:14:29,450 Curtis had fled the state. 262 00:14:31,037 --> 00:14:33,529 When you're speaking with someone about a crime, 263 00:14:33,540 --> 00:14:37,375 And they take off, it makes them very suspicious. 264 00:14:39,528 --> 00:14:40,995 - Lori: He was gone. 265 00:14:41,030 --> 00:14:42,714 He didn't talk to anyone. 266 00:14:42,790 --> 00:14:45,791 He didn't say anything to anyone. 267 00:14:45,868 --> 00:14:49,012 - He fled, where I got to go to work and cry. 268 00:14:50,873 --> 00:14:55,134 - David: The police had things like opportunity and motive 269 00:14:55,211 --> 00:14:57,720 Pointing in the direction of two people: 270 00:14:57,731 --> 00:14:59,981 Lane mcintyre and curtis forbes. 271 00:15:00,901 --> 00:15:03,142 - Narrator: But what they don't have is any hard evidence 272 00:15:03,219 --> 00:15:05,978 That either of them is the killer. 273 00:15:06,055 --> 00:15:08,406 So detectives turn to forensics. 274 00:15:11,152 --> 00:15:14,153 During interviews, police had obtained hair samples 275 00:15:14,230 --> 00:15:16,155 From both men. 276 00:15:16,232 --> 00:15:18,416 - In 1980, they processed this evidence 277 00:15:18,493 --> 00:15:21,869 To the extent that science allowed. 278 00:15:21,946 --> 00:15:25,873 But they weren't able to directly identify a suspect. 279 00:15:25,950 --> 00:15:28,918 The police department had exhausted leads. 280 00:15:28,929 --> 00:15:31,087 They didn't have new information, 281 00:15:31,097 --> 00:15:34,215 And had really just come against a roadblock. 282 00:15:34,291 --> 00:15:37,769 - Narrator: Investigators follow up with curtis and lane, 283 00:15:37,845 --> 00:15:40,846 But find nothing new to link either suspect 284 00:15:40,923 --> 00:15:43,182 To marilyn's murder. 285 00:15:43,259 --> 00:15:45,443 - David: And at that point, 286 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:49,030 They were, for lack of a better term, verklempt. 287 00:15:50,599 --> 00:15:54,068 - Narrator: The years pass, and marilyn's family is left 288 00:15:54,103 --> 00:15:57,622 With no closure to their grief. 289 00:15:57,699 --> 00:15:59,073 - Wayne: A loved one was taken from them, 290 00:15:59,150 --> 00:16:01,701 And there's just no answer for it. 291 00:16:01,777 --> 00:16:04,245 It's tragic. 292 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,914 Every year, marilyn's twin sister, carolyn, 293 00:16:06,949 --> 00:16:09,792 Would call the columbus police department and ask them, 294 00:16:09,803 --> 00:16:10,951 "is there any new updates on the case? 295 00:16:10,987 --> 00:16:14,130 Anything going on?" trying to keep the case alive. 296 00:16:14,140 --> 00:16:16,015 But this case just went cold. 297 00:16:18,127 --> 00:16:20,136 - Narrator: Investigators are frustrated, 298 00:16:20,146 --> 00:16:25,224 But unable to single out a suspect without more evidence. 299 00:16:25,301 --> 00:16:28,653 The community, however, remains convinced 300 00:16:28,730 --> 00:16:32,773 Lane mcintyre is the killer. 301 00:16:32,850 --> 00:16:36,277 - Wendy: They all said because he had an insurance policy 302 00:16:36,312 --> 00:16:39,780 Out on her and... 303 00:16:39,815 --> 00:16:41,849 That they think that he did it for the money. 304 00:16:44,838 --> 00:16:46,838 - Lane: I got all the blame for it. 305 00:16:46,914 --> 00:16:52,677 - ♪ 306 00:16:52,754 --> 00:16:55,171 - Narrator: Twenty-seven years go by. 307 00:16:55,181 --> 00:16:59,967 Then, in 2007, marilyn's niece calls the police department 308 00:17:00,044 --> 00:17:04,305 To see if there's any progress in her aunt's cold case. 309 00:17:04,340 --> 00:17:07,099 But she mistakenly dials the wrong number... 310 00:17:07,176 --> 00:17:10,102 And resurrects the investigation. 311 00:17:10,179 --> 00:17:14,032 - Daniel: I think it was sheer luck that phone call intended to 312 00:17:14,108 --> 00:17:16,025 Go to the columbus police department, 313 00:17:16,036 --> 00:17:20,279 And she accidentally got the columbia county sheriff, 314 00:17:20,356 --> 00:17:23,866 Which was where I worked. 315 00:17:23,877 --> 00:17:26,869 - Narrator: The columbia county sheriff's office has no record 316 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:30,039 Or knowledge of local police cases. 317 00:17:30,050 --> 00:17:31,123 - Wayne: I was really surprised 318 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,667 When I heard that there was an unsolved homicide. 319 00:17:33,744 --> 00:17:35,836 It's hard not to want to pick that up and-- 320 00:17:35,913 --> 00:17:37,513 And see what you can do with it. 321 00:17:39,041 --> 00:17:40,674 - Narrator: The sheriff's department decides 322 00:17:40,751 --> 00:17:42,676 To reopen the case, 323 00:17:42,753 --> 00:17:46,055 Hoping a fresh perspective and scientific advancements 324 00:17:46,066 --> 00:17:50,184 Might unearth something previously unseen. 325 00:17:50,261 --> 00:17:52,228 - I told them by the time we were done, 326 00:17:52,238 --> 00:17:54,355 I felt confident that we would be able to hold someone 327 00:17:54,431 --> 00:17:56,899 Accountable for committing this crime. 328 00:17:56,910 --> 00:18:00,069 - Narrator: The evidence needed to identify marilyn's killer 329 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,030 May be in the decades-old casework... 330 00:18:03,065 --> 00:18:06,292 Or is it still buried with the victim? 331 00:18:16,778 --> 00:18:19,555 - ♪ 332 00:18:21,101 --> 00:18:22,358 - [phone rings] 333 00:18:22,360 --> 00:18:25,094 - Narrator: Determined to solve the 27-year-old murder 334 00:18:25,105 --> 00:18:26,929 Of marilyn mcintyre, 335 00:18:26,940 --> 00:18:29,098 The columbia county sheriff's department 336 00:18:29,109 --> 00:18:31,725 Will pursue every shred of evidence, 337 00:18:31,802 --> 00:18:35,113 Including what may have been buried decades ago. 338 00:18:37,433 --> 00:18:39,117 They immediately focus their attention 339 00:18:39,193 --> 00:18:41,735 On the most obvious suspect: 340 00:18:41,770 --> 00:18:44,455 Lane mcintyre, the victim's husband. 341 00:18:47,276 --> 00:18:50,578 - My attitude was I was going to do whatever they needed 342 00:18:50,654 --> 00:18:53,455 To help get the case solved. 343 00:18:53,466 --> 00:18:56,250 Enough is enough. 344 00:18:56,327 --> 00:18:59,128 - In the community, lane had been considered a suspect 345 00:18:59,139 --> 00:19:01,589 By a lot of people. 346 00:19:01,624 --> 00:19:03,549 - Narrator: Fueling the community's suspicion 347 00:19:03,626 --> 00:19:06,093 Was a life insurance policy, 348 00:19:06,170 --> 00:19:10,055 Which lane purchased days before his wife's murder. 349 00:19:10,132 --> 00:19:14,485 But when cold case detectives look into the policy... 350 00:19:14,562 --> 00:19:16,737 They realize that it's not what it seems. 351 00:19:18,658 --> 00:19:22,109 - Wayne: In 1980, an insurance salesperson would observe 352 00:19:22,144 --> 00:19:25,654 A birth announcement in the paper, approach the family, 353 00:19:25,665 --> 00:19:28,499 Explain to them why it was perhaps a good idea for them 354 00:19:28,576 --> 00:19:31,586 To get insurance with a newborn. 355 00:19:33,506 --> 00:19:35,673 - He just showed up one day, pure and simple. 356 00:19:38,178 --> 00:19:41,253 - Narrator: Next, investigators reexamine the physical evidence 357 00:19:41,330 --> 00:19:43,505 That is still preserved decades later 358 00:19:43,516 --> 00:19:47,343 To see if any of it implicates lane. 359 00:19:47,353 --> 00:19:51,272 Specifically, the spot of blood found in the sink. 360 00:19:52,192 --> 00:19:54,475 - Wayne: The suspect could have had an injury and deposited 361 00:19:54,510 --> 00:19:58,237 Not only their dna, but the dna of our victim's in this sink. 362 00:20:00,349 --> 00:20:03,201 Dna wasn't something that was done in 1980. 363 00:20:03,277 --> 00:20:05,152 The evidence in this case from 30 years ago 364 00:20:05,187 --> 00:20:07,488 Wasn't collected with dna in mind. 365 00:20:07,523 --> 00:20:09,749 We didn't know if it was usable. 366 00:20:11,402 --> 00:20:14,212 - Narrator: Investigators send the blood out for analysis... 367 00:20:14,288 --> 00:20:17,548 And amazingly get a giant lead. 368 00:20:17,625 --> 00:20:18,699 - [phone rings] 369 00:20:18,735 --> 00:20:20,668 - We had the results that it was a blood mixture 370 00:20:20,703 --> 00:20:23,337 Of two dna profiles. 371 00:20:23,372 --> 00:20:25,798 - Narrator: They find a mix of marilyn's dna 372 00:20:25,874 --> 00:20:28,684 And what investigators believe is her killer's. 373 00:20:31,422 --> 00:20:32,721 - That was a major moment. 374 00:20:32,732 --> 00:20:35,516 We were quite excited. 375 00:20:35,592 --> 00:20:36,734 - Wayne: We tested lane's dna 376 00:20:36,811 --> 00:20:39,228 Against the stain in the bathroom sink. 377 00:20:39,239 --> 00:20:43,741 - ♪ 378 00:20:43,818 --> 00:20:45,734 - Lane's dna wasn't present. 379 00:20:45,745 --> 00:20:49,154 - ♪ 380 00:20:49,231 --> 00:20:54,418 - Lane mcintyre was excluded as a dna source 381 00:20:54,495 --> 00:20:56,087 To that stain. 382 00:20:57,331 --> 00:21:00,716 - Narrator: Lane is no longer a suspect in his wife's murder. 383 00:21:03,671 --> 00:21:06,880 - Wendy: It was a sigh of relief because, all these years, 384 00:21:06,915 --> 00:21:10,268 He felt the finger was pointed at him, and some people did. 385 00:21:13,273 --> 00:21:15,606 - Lane: Nine times out of ten, 386 00:21:15,683 --> 00:21:18,600 I too believe that the husband did it. 387 00:21:18,611 --> 00:21:24,115 But I know what it feels like to be that one that didn't. 388 00:21:24,191 --> 00:21:27,618 I'm angry at being accused of being guilty. 389 00:21:27,695 --> 00:21:33,291 It was more hurt on top of the hurt I already had. 390 00:21:33,367 --> 00:21:35,367 It was torture. 391 00:21:35,444 --> 00:21:38,537 - ♪ 392 00:21:38,614 --> 00:21:41,373 - Narrator: Investigators revisit the other suspect 393 00:21:41,450 --> 00:21:46,295 From the original investigation, curtis forbes. 394 00:21:46,306 --> 00:21:50,424 He left town after the murder, but had moved back to the area 395 00:21:50,501 --> 00:21:53,311 And married his girlfriend, debbie addleson. 396 00:21:54,296 --> 00:21:57,473 - Knowing that information and his reaction in 1980, 397 00:21:57,483 --> 00:22:01,477 We monitored his comings and goings as best we could, um, 398 00:22:01,487 --> 00:22:04,322 Because we--we feared he was going to flee again. 399 00:22:07,851 --> 00:22:09,943 - Narrator: Investigators locate a hair sample 400 00:22:09,978 --> 00:22:12,821 Submitted by curtis in 1980. 401 00:22:12,832 --> 00:22:15,449 They send it to the lab to see if the dna 402 00:22:15,484 --> 00:22:18,619 Matches the blood stain from the sink... 403 00:22:18,654 --> 00:22:20,671 And get what may be a lead. 404 00:22:22,508 --> 00:22:25,334 - Daniel: We received test results that indicated 405 00:22:25,345 --> 00:22:30,339 Curt forbes was a possible dna contributor to those stains. 406 00:22:30,350 --> 00:22:32,841 - Narrator: The results are in no way definitive. 407 00:22:32,852 --> 00:22:34,968 The lab just can't rule out 408 00:22:35,003 --> 00:22:37,971 That it's curtis forbes's blood in the sink. 409 00:22:38,006 --> 00:22:40,307 But it gives detectives a direction 410 00:22:40,384 --> 00:22:43,310 For their investigation. 411 00:22:43,345 --> 00:22:46,855 Energized, police take another hard look at curtis forbes's 412 00:22:46,866 --> 00:22:49,316 Whereabouts the night of the murder. 413 00:22:49,393 --> 00:22:51,527 - Daniel: We identify individuals who were named 414 00:22:51,537 --> 00:22:55,697 In police reports and start re-interviewing them. 415 00:22:55,708 --> 00:22:58,876 We learned curt was out, you know, boozin' that night. 416 00:22:58,953 --> 00:23:01,545 He was out, um, quote/unquote, "prowling." 417 00:23:04,741 --> 00:23:07,793 He had made some advancements towards some young women 418 00:23:07,870 --> 00:23:09,887 In one of the taverns. 419 00:23:09,964 --> 00:23:11,806 But he was striking out. 420 00:23:12,875 --> 00:23:15,300 - Narrator: Authorities start to develop a theory about 421 00:23:15,377 --> 00:23:18,270 What might have happened on that tragic night. 422 00:23:20,900 --> 00:23:23,517 - We believe that he went to mcintyre's because he knew 423 00:23:23,594 --> 00:23:26,395 That marilyn was home alone. 424 00:23:26,406 --> 00:23:29,898 - All he'd have to do would be knock on the door, 425 00:23:29,909 --> 00:23:32,743 And marilyn would have let him in. 426 00:23:35,397 --> 00:23:39,366 My theory was that he forced himself on marilyn. 427 00:23:39,401 --> 00:23:43,745 - ♪ 428 00:23:43,756 --> 00:23:47,541 - David: Maybe he decided to then kill marilyn after he had 429 00:23:47,576 --> 00:23:51,595 Had his way with her, rather than have her be able to have 430 00:23:51,672 --> 00:23:54,047 Everybody know what he had done. 431 00:23:54,082 --> 00:23:57,551 So he bashed her in the head, 432 00:23:57,628 --> 00:23:59,553 Stabbed her in the chest, 433 00:23:59,630 --> 00:24:01,597 Washed in the sink, and then left. 434 00:24:01,607 --> 00:24:06,894 - ♪ 435 00:24:06,970 --> 00:24:09,655 - It was a good case, but not good enough. 436 00:24:10,858 --> 00:24:13,609 - Narrator: Right now, it's just a theory. 437 00:24:13,619 --> 00:24:17,779 There's no hard evidence tying curtis forbes to the murder. 438 00:24:17,790 --> 00:24:19,948 - Wayne: Curtis developed into a suspect. 439 00:24:19,959 --> 00:24:23,243 Now we needed to collect any additional information 440 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,455 And/or evidence that might possibly be out there. 441 00:24:26,466 --> 00:24:28,290 - Narrator: Authorities let the media know 442 00:24:28,301 --> 00:24:31,293 They are open for business. 443 00:24:31,304 --> 00:24:33,971 Lane is no longer a person of interest, 444 00:24:34,048 --> 00:24:36,798 And they're looking for tips. 445 00:24:36,809 --> 00:24:38,550 - Wayne: It was important that the public know 446 00:24:38,627 --> 00:24:40,978 That this case wasn't solved. 447 00:24:41,055 --> 00:24:45,891 We wanted suspects to know that this was not forgotten. 448 00:24:45,968 --> 00:24:47,643 Marilyn's not forgotten. 449 00:24:47,653 --> 00:24:49,645 We're gonna seek justice for her. 450 00:24:49,655 --> 00:24:50,821 - [phone rings] 451 00:24:50,898 --> 00:24:53,407 - Narrator: Immediately after, the phone starts ringing. 452 00:24:56,979 --> 00:24:59,404 - Daniel: Friends or family members came forward and said, 453 00:24:59,481 --> 00:25:02,824 "hey, I remember back then." 454 00:25:02,835 --> 00:25:05,953 - Narrator: And one piece of information makes them sit up 455 00:25:05,988 --> 00:25:07,087 And take notice. 456 00:25:08,490 --> 00:25:10,582 Something curtis's girlfriend, debbie, 457 00:25:10,659 --> 00:25:12,760 Told her friend at the time of the murder. 458 00:25:14,013 --> 00:25:17,348 - A few weeks after marilyn's murder, 459 00:25:17,424 --> 00:25:20,842 I remember running into debbie addleson. 460 00:25:20,853 --> 00:25:23,845 I remember her telling me about curt showing up at her home 461 00:25:23,856 --> 00:25:28,809 About 4 and wanting her to wash a shirt 462 00:25:28,844 --> 00:25:30,778 That he had that had blood on it. 463 00:25:33,366 --> 00:25:34,773 I remember being shocked 464 00:25:34,850 --> 00:25:38,369 And very uncomfortable with the conversation, 465 00:25:38,445 --> 00:25:41,372 But I assumed debbie had told the police. 466 00:25:43,117 --> 00:25:44,866 - Narrator: Investigators immediately check 467 00:25:44,877 --> 00:25:46,544 The original file. 468 00:25:48,196 --> 00:25:52,049 There's no record of anyone seeing blood on curtis's shirt. 469 00:25:52,126 --> 00:25:56,503 This is new information, but is it true? 470 00:25:56,538 --> 00:25:58,806 What they need is forensic evidence. 471 00:26:02,210 --> 00:26:05,679 Coming up, detectives make a last push 472 00:26:05,756 --> 00:26:08,140 To solve the case-- 473 00:26:08,216 --> 00:26:11,852 - Angela: There was so much riding on this exhumation. 474 00:26:11,887 --> 00:26:14,572 - Narrator: --By exhuming marilyn's body. 475 00:26:16,075 --> 00:26:18,450 - It was powerful, and it's damning. 476 00:26:20,580 --> 00:26:23,789 - ♪ 477 00:26:28,420 --> 00:26:32,047 - ♪ 478 00:26:33,408 --> 00:26:35,542 - Narrator: After 28 years without a break 479 00:26:35,619 --> 00:26:39,004 In the unsolved murder of marilyn mcintyre, 480 00:26:39,081 --> 00:26:41,256 Police realize there's one place 481 00:26:41,267 --> 00:26:43,717 They may be able to find the physical evidence 482 00:26:43,752 --> 00:26:45,561 That could solve the case. 483 00:26:47,464 --> 00:26:49,222 - Daniel: We thought maybe if she fought back, 484 00:26:49,299 --> 00:26:51,683 Maybe scratched someone's face, maybe there was a chance 485 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,069 There would be dna under her fingernails. 486 00:26:55,764 --> 00:26:59,691 No fingernail scrapings had been taken at that time 487 00:26:59,768 --> 00:27:02,077 Because the dna technology didn't exist. 488 00:27:03,697 --> 00:27:06,749 - Narrator: There is only one way to collect this evidence. 489 00:27:10,654 --> 00:27:13,339 They must exhume marilyn's body. 490 00:27:15,709 --> 00:27:18,710 - In 2007, I was the medical examiner 491 00:27:18,787 --> 00:27:21,380 For columbia county, wisconsin. 492 00:27:21,456 --> 00:27:24,257 Lt. Smith came into my office, and he said, 493 00:27:24,292 --> 00:27:28,136 "we may need to recover marilyn from her gravesite 494 00:27:28,147 --> 00:27:30,389 For further examination." 495 00:27:30,465 --> 00:27:33,558 - Narrator: This radical move to uncover new evidence 496 00:27:33,635 --> 00:27:35,435 Might be investigators' only hope 497 00:27:35,512 --> 00:27:39,531 For an indictment of their main suspect, curtis forbes. 498 00:27:42,185 --> 00:27:45,070 - Wayne: I was really optimistic that we'd find some evidence, 499 00:27:45,147 --> 00:27:46,497 But we may strike out. 500 00:27:46,573 --> 00:27:48,415 We might not find anything at all. 501 00:27:50,819 --> 00:27:52,711 - Narrator: There's only one option left. 502 00:27:54,748 --> 00:27:57,457 - Exhumation is a sensitive decision 503 00:27:57,534 --> 00:28:01,128 That we just don't make on our own. 504 00:28:01,204 --> 00:28:03,130 - Wayne: Anyone in this situation would not want 505 00:28:03,165 --> 00:28:06,258 Their loved one's final resting place disturbed. 506 00:28:06,334 --> 00:28:07,442 But it felt critical 507 00:28:07,444 --> 00:28:12,064 That we try and obtain as much evidence as we can. 508 00:28:13,383 --> 00:28:15,183 - Narrator: But first they ask for consent 509 00:28:15,194 --> 00:28:17,018 From the next of kin: 510 00:28:17,029 --> 00:28:20,406 The wrongly accused husband, lane mcintyre. 511 00:28:21,534 --> 00:28:24,317 - Detective wayne smith asked me 512 00:28:24,394 --> 00:28:28,038 If he could exhume marilyn's body. 513 00:28:28,115 --> 00:28:30,157 And that hurt me. 514 00:28:30,233 --> 00:28:31,357 But I said yes because 515 00:28:31,393 --> 00:28:34,795 I was so desperate to help them in any way I could. 516 00:28:36,698 --> 00:28:37,731 - Wendy: That's not cool, 517 00:28:37,808 --> 00:28:41,209 Digging someone up from their resting place and-- 518 00:28:41,220 --> 00:28:43,011 But it had to be done, you know? 519 00:28:46,541 --> 00:28:47,540 - [phone rings] 520 00:28:47,576 --> 00:28:49,509 - Wayne: One of the big hopes that I had, uh, 521 00:28:49,586 --> 00:28:51,228 In exhuming marilyn was to see 522 00:28:51,305 --> 00:28:54,723 If there was any dna of her attacker under her fingernails. 523 00:28:54,734 --> 00:28:59,236 I didn't believe that that had been processed or looked for. 524 00:28:59,313 --> 00:29:01,188 - Narrator: And investigators have a second, 525 00:29:01,264 --> 00:29:04,742 More strategic motive behind the exhumation: 526 00:29:04,818 --> 00:29:07,819 They hope just the threat of finding new evidence 527 00:29:07,896 --> 00:29:10,330 Will spook their main suspect. 528 00:29:14,611 --> 00:29:15,735 - Female reporter: Twenty-eight years ago, 529 00:29:15,771 --> 00:29:19,372 They buried her with so many questions left unanswered. 530 00:29:19,449 --> 00:29:22,751 And today, the family of marilyn mcintyre had her body exhumed, 531 00:29:22,762 --> 00:29:25,554 Hoping to find those answers. 532 00:29:27,508 --> 00:29:30,267 - We made the exhumation public. 533 00:29:30,344 --> 00:29:32,269 We wanted our suspects to know, 534 00:29:32,346 --> 00:29:35,222 "you may have escaped for many years, 535 00:29:35,298 --> 00:29:38,725 "but dna evidence still exists and, uh, 536 00:29:38,802 --> 00:29:41,436 We were searching for it." 537 00:29:41,447 --> 00:29:43,605 - David: If you can rattle your suspect, 538 00:29:43,616 --> 00:29:49,119 They're off their game and more likely to do something stupid. 539 00:29:49,196 --> 00:29:55,075 - ♪ 540 00:29:55,151 --> 00:29:58,712 - [thunderclap] 541 00:30:00,207 --> 00:30:02,541 - It was a very eerie day. 542 00:30:02,617 --> 00:30:06,637 - [camera shutter clicking] 543 00:30:06,713 --> 00:30:09,381 - Narrator: Investigators gather around the gravesite, 544 00:30:09,457 --> 00:30:11,424 Accompanied by the medical examiner 545 00:30:11,501 --> 00:30:14,594 And some members of the victim's family. 546 00:30:14,671 --> 00:30:17,931 - Angela: There was so much riding on this exhumation. 547 00:30:17,966 --> 00:30:20,141 We're gonna find this--this dna. 548 00:30:20,152 --> 00:30:23,436 We're gonna be able to get somewhere with this case. 549 00:30:23,513 --> 00:30:25,772 - Narrator: Lane mcintyre can't bring himself 550 00:30:25,807 --> 00:30:29,109 To be at marilyn's graveside. 551 00:30:29,185 --> 00:30:30,828 - Just signing the paper was enough. 552 00:30:30,904 --> 00:30:32,746 It was more than I could bear. 553 00:30:34,500 --> 00:30:36,283 - Angela: It was a very sensitive day. 554 00:30:36,318 --> 00:30:38,669 Not only are you bringing her back up, 555 00:30:38,745 --> 00:30:42,840 But you're also bringing up all the emotion and all the sadness. 556 00:30:42,916 --> 00:30:44,457 It's almost like you're going through 557 00:30:44,534 --> 00:30:46,134 The trauma all over again. 558 00:30:48,705 --> 00:30:51,673 - Daniel: When that concrete cover crypt was lifted, 559 00:30:51,684 --> 00:30:53,842 It was very, very wet. 560 00:30:53,853 --> 00:30:57,470 - ♪ 561 00:30:57,547 --> 00:30:59,139 - Wayne: I was disappointed. 562 00:30:59,215 --> 00:31:02,601 You could see a casket that was in poor condition. 563 00:31:02,677 --> 00:31:04,862 You could tell that this had been in the ground a long time. 564 00:31:04,938 --> 00:31:08,532 - [rain pouring] 565 00:31:08,609 --> 00:31:10,775 - Daniel: When the casket was being lifted from the ground, 566 00:31:10,852 --> 00:31:16,615 There was water, um, emanating from most all sides of it. 567 00:31:16,691 --> 00:31:20,452 - Dna does not hold up well in wet environment. 568 00:31:20,528 --> 00:31:21,494 - Daniel: It was disheartening 569 00:31:21,529 --> 00:31:22,871 To think pieces of trace evidence 570 00:31:22,882 --> 00:31:24,506 Could have all washed away. 571 00:31:26,034 --> 00:31:28,543 - Wayne: My optimism sank a little. 572 00:31:28,554 --> 00:31:31,338 It could be potentially a long shot with, you know, 573 00:31:31,373 --> 00:31:33,223 A body that had been in the ground so long. 574 00:31:35,043 --> 00:31:36,560 - Narrator: The casket is transported 575 00:31:36,637 --> 00:31:39,396 To the columbia county sheriff's office morgue. 576 00:31:39,473 --> 00:31:43,642 - ♪ 577 00:31:43,718 --> 00:31:45,644 - Angela: We were not able to actually open the casket 578 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,646 By a conventional method. 579 00:31:47,722 --> 00:31:50,357 It was completely rusted and corroded shut 580 00:31:50,433 --> 00:31:51,358 From all the water. 581 00:31:51,434 --> 00:31:53,860 - [camera shutter clicking] 582 00:31:53,937 --> 00:31:57,405 - Daniel: The pathologist ended up utilizing a wedge 583 00:31:57,416 --> 00:32:00,375 And a--hand tools to pry the casket open. 584 00:32:03,330 --> 00:32:04,371 - Angela: We weren't really certain 585 00:32:04,447 --> 00:32:06,539 As to what we would be looking at. 586 00:32:06,616 --> 00:32:09,760 You either have really good burial technique, 587 00:32:09,836 --> 00:32:13,588 Where you have nice bodies that you can reexamine. 588 00:32:13,599 --> 00:32:16,883 In other cases, you are not quite so lucky. 589 00:32:16,918 --> 00:32:20,270 When we open the casket up, we just stood there. 590 00:32:20,347 --> 00:32:21,554 And we kind of looked at each other. 591 00:32:21,631 --> 00:32:23,565 And then we kind of went... 592 00:32:27,929 --> 00:32:29,529 - I had never seen anything like that. 593 00:32:32,618 --> 00:32:35,827 - ♪ 594 00:32:40,866 --> 00:32:44,044 - ♪ 595 00:32:46,114 --> 00:32:48,081 - Narrator: Although marilyn mcintyre was buried 596 00:32:48,158 --> 00:32:50,968 Nearly three decades ago, 597 00:32:51,044 --> 00:32:53,136 Investigators hope examining her remains 598 00:32:53,213 --> 00:32:55,305 Will provide new clues to tie 599 00:32:55,382 --> 00:32:58,892 Main suspect curtis forbes to her murder. 600 00:33:01,146 --> 00:33:04,889 - Marilyn's remains were heavily decomposed. 601 00:33:04,966 --> 00:33:07,392 - Daniel: You could make out a female. 602 00:33:07,469 --> 00:33:08,810 The clothing was intact, 603 00:33:08,821 --> 00:33:12,948 But there was no visible soft tissue left. 604 00:33:14,660 --> 00:33:17,152 - ♪ 605 00:33:17,162 --> 00:33:19,946 - We knew at that point that evidence collection 606 00:33:20,023 --> 00:33:21,164 Would be difficult. 607 00:33:23,243 --> 00:33:27,337 - Narrator: But something gives investigators a shred of hope. 608 00:33:27,414 --> 00:33:28,455 - Daniel: You could make out 609 00:33:28,531 --> 00:33:32,175 That she had artificial fingernails. 610 00:33:32,252 --> 00:33:33,460 - Angela: Little press-on fingernails 611 00:33:33,536 --> 00:33:35,128 On each of her digits. 612 00:33:35,163 --> 00:33:38,465 It was miraculous how-- how well they stayed on. 613 00:33:38,541 --> 00:33:39,966 - Daniel: Not all hope is lost. 614 00:33:40,001 --> 00:33:41,801 We were quite excited. 615 00:33:41,836 --> 00:33:44,345 - Narrator: The tips of finger bones and press-on nails 616 00:33:44,356 --> 00:33:48,016 Are submitted to the crime lab for dna testing. 617 00:33:48,027 --> 00:33:49,184 - Angela: I thought it's possible 618 00:33:49,194 --> 00:33:52,687 That they could have glued in some dna 619 00:33:52,698 --> 00:33:55,982 That had gotten trapped underneath the fingernail. 620 00:33:56,017 --> 00:33:59,319 - Narrator: The lab processes the remains and reaches back out 621 00:33:59,395 --> 00:34:02,372 To investigators with their findings. 622 00:34:02,449 --> 00:34:03,356 - Wayne: Those press-on nails 623 00:34:03,392 --> 00:34:07,952 And what evidence may be under them... 624 00:34:08,029 --> 00:34:11,831 Couldn't be tested after that amount of time and exposure. 625 00:34:11,908 --> 00:34:15,126 - ♪ 626 00:34:15,203 --> 00:34:17,721 - I was devastated. 627 00:34:17,798 --> 00:34:20,715 - Narrator: It's a discouraging dead end. 628 00:34:20,726 --> 00:34:24,853 Marilyn's remains are returned to the coffin and reburied. 629 00:34:26,398 --> 00:34:28,890 But investigators hold out hope 630 00:34:28,901 --> 00:34:31,943 That the exhumation could still pay off. 631 00:34:33,429 --> 00:34:35,072 - Wayne: Even though our exhumation 632 00:34:35,148 --> 00:34:37,357 Didn't yield evidence, 633 00:34:37,433 --> 00:34:39,359 We didn't release that to the public. 634 00:34:39,394 --> 00:34:41,152 The suspect didn't know that that evidence 635 00:34:41,229 --> 00:34:43,530 Wasn't gonna be able to be used. 636 00:34:43,565 --> 00:34:45,365 - Narrator: It's a chess game. 637 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,076 And authorities go on the offensive, 638 00:34:48,087 --> 00:34:52,205 Telling the media they are busy analyzing strong dna evidence 639 00:34:52,240 --> 00:34:53,873 They've uncovered. 640 00:34:53,908 --> 00:34:55,041 - We weren't shy about the fact 641 00:34:55,118 --> 00:34:58,044 That we were gonna have new dna tests done. 642 00:34:58,121 --> 00:35:01,431 We were using the media to our advantage. 643 00:35:01,508 --> 00:35:04,509 If you're someone who has some role in this, 644 00:35:04,586 --> 00:35:07,887 I would think you'd be pretty nervous. 645 00:35:07,964 --> 00:35:11,274 - Wayne: We decided to track curtis's phone. 646 00:35:11,351 --> 00:35:16,437 We wanted to know who he was calling and when he was calling. 647 00:35:16,448 --> 00:35:19,440 - David: Law enforcement was hoping that exhumation would 648 00:35:19,451 --> 00:35:24,279 Spur curt forbes to make a call or get a call from somebody 649 00:35:24,289 --> 00:35:26,498 That would tie him in to the murder. 650 00:35:28,127 --> 00:35:30,919 - Narrator: The investigators' hunch pays off. 651 00:35:32,798 --> 00:35:35,456 - Wayne: We learned that he was contacting the carpenters union 652 00:35:35,467 --> 00:35:37,008 In the state of hawaii. 653 00:35:38,453 --> 00:35:41,847 But we weren't sure initially what that meant. 654 00:35:42,624 --> 00:35:44,382 - Narrator: Over the next several months, 655 00:35:44,459 --> 00:35:48,395 Investigators discover curtis is plotting an elaborate plan. 656 00:35:50,673 --> 00:35:52,432 - David: Because of the exhumation, 657 00:35:52,508 --> 00:35:57,145 Curtis forbes then began to hatch a plan 658 00:35:57,156 --> 00:36:01,274 To fake his disappearance. 659 00:36:01,309 --> 00:36:04,444 - ♪ 660 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,997 - We had learned that curt had taken steps 661 00:36:07,073 --> 00:36:09,166 To fake his death. 662 00:36:10,652 --> 00:36:14,337 He had purchased an inflatable raft that he planned go out 663 00:36:14,414 --> 00:36:16,339 Into lake michigan with on a boat he had owned 664 00:36:16,416 --> 00:36:20,585 And sink that boat and raft back to shore. 665 00:36:20,662 --> 00:36:22,420 - There's the old adage: 666 00:36:22,497 --> 00:36:25,015 The innocent stay and the guilty flee. 667 00:36:27,543 --> 00:36:28,668 - Wayne: When we got this information, 668 00:36:28,704 --> 00:36:31,304 It was pretty exciting because without the exhumation, 669 00:36:31,381 --> 00:36:35,016 We may not have been able to cause that reaction in him. 670 00:36:35,027 --> 00:36:37,477 I thought it really was, uh, very incriminating. 671 00:36:37,512 --> 00:36:40,855 - Narrator: Investigators decide it's time to bring curtis in 672 00:36:40,866 --> 00:36:42,190 For questioning. 673 00:36:42,201 --> 00:36:46,912 - ♪ 674 00:37:02,387 --> 00:37:05,546 - Wayne: We spoke with curt for, uh, a fairly lengthy time. 675 00:37:05,557 --> 00:37:10,176 He had, uh, obviously 30 years of denial built up in him. 676 00:37:10,211 --> 00:37:12,971 - Narrator: Investigators interview curtis at the station, 677 00:37:13,047 --> 00:37:15,348 Hoping that just the idea that the autopsy 678 00:37:15,383 --> 00:37:17,400 From the exhumation implicates him 679 00:37:17,477 --> 00:37:19,611 Rattles him enough to confess. 680 00:37:30,082 --> 00:37:33,533 - He seemed concerned that we had dna. 681 00:37:33,609 --> 00:37:36,077 But curt didn't confess to the crime 682 00:37:36,088 --> 00:37:39,247 And maintained the--his innocence. 683 00:37:39,258 --> 00:37:41,374 - David: It was pathetic. 684 00:37:41,409 --> 00:37:44,377 It wasn't convincing to anyone. 685 00:37:44,454 --> 00:37:47,555 It just adds further fuel to your fire. 686 00:37:49,751 --> 00:37:52,602 - Narrator: Investigators are frustrated... 687 00:37:52,679 --> 00:37:55,388 But still have one piece of evidence left to pursue 688 00:37:55,423 --> 00:37:58,558 With debbie, curtis forbes's wife, 689 00:37:58,634 --> 00:38:01,111 Who told a friend she had noticed curtis 690 00:38:01,187 --> 00:38:04,397 Wearing a bloody shirt the night of the murder. 691 00:38:04,432 --> 00:38:06,274 - We believe that debbie was aware 692 00:38:06,285 --> 00:38:09,027 That curt had arrived after 4 a.M., 693 00:38:09,103 --> 00:38:10,445 And that her parents had cleaned 694 00:38:10,455 --> 00:38:13,039 Bloody clothing that curt arrived in. 695 00:38:14,626 --> 00:38:17,452 - Narrator: If investigators can get debbie to confirm seeing 696 00:38:17,462 --> 00:38:21,706 Blood on curtis's clothes, it's enough to make an arrest. 697 00:38:21,783 --> 00:38:23,967 But it won't be easy. 698 00:38:24,044 --> 00:38:26,469 - We were concerned that debbie would be reluctant 699 00:38:26,546 --> 00:38:28,054 To speak to law enforcement. 700 00:38:29,791 --> 00:38:32,642 Debbie had been uncooperative up to this point, 701 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,470 Perhaps out of fear. 702 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,096 - She was one of the individuals 703 00:38:37,131 --> 00:38:39,733 That could really send him down the river. 704 00:38:42,303 --> 00:38:45,989 - Narrator: Detectives visit debbie at her home. 705 00:38:46,066 --> 00:38:47,982 - Daniel: Through the course of the lengthy interview, 706 00:38:47,993 --> 00:38:51,778 She really wasn't providing us with any real new information. 707 00:38:51,854 --> 00:38:55,498 - Narrator: But finally, debbie lets something slip. 708 00:38:56,835 --> 00:39:01,504 - She indicated seeing blood on the sleeve of curtis's shirt 709 00:39:01,581 --> 00:39:03,748 The night of the murder. 710 00:39:03,825 --> 00:39:07,177 - David: Deb had never admitted to the police before that moment 711 00:39:07,253 --> 00:39:11,506 That she had saw blood on curt's clothing. 712 00:39:11,516 --> 00:39:14,467 It was powerful, and it's damning. 713 00:39:14,502 --> 00:39:16,636 That was pretty extraordinary. 714 00:39:16,671 --> 00:39:19,356 A pivotal moment in the case. 715 00:39:20,692 --> 00:39:22,525 - Wayne: That really closed up the case for us, 716 00:39:22,602 --> 00:39:25,311 Or at least brought it to the point where we felt comfortable 717 00:39:25,388 --> 00:39:28,856 With going forward with a criminal charge. 718 00:39:28,867 --> 00:39:31,534 - Narrator: The admission is enough to make an arrest. 719 00:39:31,611 --> 00:39:34,112 But will it be enough to convince a jury? 720 00:39:34,188 --> 00:39:37,791 - ♪ 721 00:39:38,901 --> 00:39:42,170 - ♪ 722 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,386 - ♪ 723 00:39:50,463 --> 00:39:51,671 - [police siren wails] 724 00:39:51,673 --> 00:39:53,631 - Narrator: Curtis forbes is under arrest 725 00:39:53,633 --> 00:39:56,810 For the decades-old murder of marilyn mcintyre. 726 00:39:59,180 --> 00:40:01,889 His wife, debbie, is now cooperating with police 727 00:40:01,891 --> 00:40:03,566 And looking for answers. 728 00:40:03,568 --> 00:40:06,736 - ♪ 729 00:40:06,738 --> 00:40:09,897 - Two days after curtis was arrested, 730 00:40:09,899 --> 00:40:12,525 He had a phone call with debbie. 731 00:40:12,527 --> 00:40:15,027 - Narrator: Callers are informed that the lines are recorded 732 00:40:15,029 --> 00:40:16,996 And conversations are monitored. 733 00:40:34,716 --> 00:40:37,383 - She's just interested in getting the truth from him. 734 00:40:37,385 --> 00:40:39,093 But because it's a recorded call, 735 00:40:39,095 --> 00:40:43,565 Unwittingly, she was a very powerful advocate for us. 736 00:40:45,351 --> 00:40:47,727 - Wayne: What curt did at that point was critical. 737 00:40:47,729 --> 00:40:49,395 He didn't say, "what bloody shirt? 738 00:40:49,397 --> 00:40:52,356 There was no bloody shirt. What are you talking about?" 739 00:40:52,358 --> 00:40:54,567 And we were pretty excited as a group 740 00:40:54,569 --> 00:40:56,453 When we listened to that call. 741 00:40:59,365 --> 00:41:01,908 - Narrator: Twenty-nine years after marilyn mcintyre 742 00:41:01,910 --> 00:41:05,411 Was fatally beaten and stabbed... 743 00:41:05,413 --> 00:41:07,246 Police finally have enough evidence 744 00:41:07,248 --> 00:41:11,042 To charge suspect curtis forbes with first-degree murder. 745 00:41:11,044 --> 00:41:16,214 - ♪ 746 00:41:16,216 --> 00:41:21,385 - Lane: I think curt forbes had an infatuation for marilyn. 747 00:41:21,387 --> 00:41:24,555 It's ironic how you cannot see something 748 00:41:24,557 --> 00:41:27,058 That's right in front of your face. 749 00:41:27,060 --> 00:41:28,568 Never saw it coming. 750 00:41:30,605 --> 00:41:33,314 - David: There is enough proof beyond a reasonable doubt 751 00:41:33,316 --> 00:41:35,566 To take the case to trial. 752 00:41:35,568 --> 00:41:37,944 Damn the torpedoes, full steam ahead. 753 00:41:37,946 --> 00:41:42,281 - ♪ 754 00:41:42,283 --> 00:41:43,407 - Female reporter: Wearing jail orange, 755 00:41:43,409 --> 00:41:44,825 52-year-old curtis forbes 756 00:41:44,827 --> 00:41:48,412 Returned to court in columbia county. 757 00:41:48,414 --> 00:41:50,122 - Narrator: Curtis forbes stands trial 758 00:41:50,124 --> 00:41:53,125 For the murder of marilyn mcintyre. 759 00:41:53,127 --> 00:41:57,296 - When I was testifying, I looked straight at curt. 760 00:41:57,298 --> 00:42:03,135 - ♪ 761 00:42:03,137 --> 00:42:07,273 - I was looking at him, just glaring--him glaring back at me. 762 00:42:09,477 --> 00:42:10,977 I remember thinking, 763 00:42:10,979 --> 00:42:16,774 Had my boyfriend not been home that morning, 764 00:42:16,776 --> 00:42:18,484 That it could have very well have been me 765 00:42:18,486 --> 00:42:20,820 Instead of marilyn mcintyre. 766 00:42:20,822 --> 00:42:25,291 And that is very scary to even think about. 767 00:42:29,163 --> 00:42:32,999 - The jury, after just three hours of deliberation, 768 00:42:33,001 --> 00:42:34,625 Arrived at a verdict. 769 00:42:34,627 --> 00:42:38,004 - ♪ 770 00:42:38,006 --> 00:42:41,340 - Jury foreman: Guilty. - [crowd gasping] 771 00:42:41,342 --> 00:42:43,050 - Female reporter: Curtis forbes dropped his head 772 00:42:43,052 --> 00:42:46,345 As sobs from the victim's family filled the court. 773 00:42:46,347 --> 00:42:49,849 Guilty of first-degree murder in the 1980 beating, stabbing, 774 00:42:49,851 --> 00:42:53,236 And strangling of 18-year-old marilyn mcintyre. 775 00:42:56,190 --> 00:43:01,861 - I just felt this exhale of anguish that was like-- 776 00:43:01,863 --> 00:43:04,739 I could just finally let go. 777 00:43:04,741 --> 00:43:08,200 It was just--came out of me like, ughhhhhh. 778 00:43:08,202 --> 00:43:14,206 And it was like, finally, after 30 years. 779 00:43:14,208 --> 00:43:15,758 You know? 780 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,586 - ♪ 781 00:43:18,588 --> 00:43:22,214 - It doesn't make marilyn come back. 782 00:43:22,216 --> 00:43:25,509 But at least...We know. 783 00:43:25,511 --> 00:43:28,387 Thirty years of not knowing what to think 784 00:43:28,389 --> 00:43:30,723 Is its own kind of torture. 785 00:43:30,725 --> 00:43:33,901 It's important that there's resolution. 786 00:43:37,398 --> 00:43:40,241 - Narrator: Curtis forbes is sentenced to life in prison. 787 00:43:43,404 --> 00:43:46,364 - David: Doing justice for a family, you know, 788 00:43:46,366 --> 00:43:47,615 You're giving them something 789 00:43:47,617 --> 00:43:50,409 That nobody else could give them. 790 00:43:50,411 --> 00:43:54,955 And...It's extremely rewarding. 791 00:43:54,957 --> 00:43:57,625 - Wayne: Makes you take pride in your work. 792 00:43:57,627 --> 00:44:00,753 These types of crimes, you know, they need to be answered 793 00:44:00,755 --> 00:44:03,089 And they need our attention. 794 00:44:03,091 --> 00:44:04,757 The exhumation was critical. 795 00:44:04,759 --> 00:44:07,259 Without the exhumation, we may not have been able 796 00:44:07,261 --> 00:44:09,062 To bring justice to this family. 797 00:44:11,149 --> 00:44:13,391 - Lori: Justice was served in the fact 798 00:44:13,393 --> 00:44:16,310 That curt forbes was found guilty. 799 00:44:16,312 --> 00:44:19,397 And yet, at the same time, 800 00:44:19,399 --> 00:44:22,483 I feel that he was free for 30 years. 801 00:44:22,485 --> 00:44:27,321 Thirty years that people accused lane of doing this. 802 00:44:27,323 --> 00:44:30,282 Thirty years that marilyn never had. 803 00:44:30,284 --> 00:44:34,420 Thirty years that lane and marilyn's son struggled. 804 00:44:36,457 --> 00:44:41,293 - I hope and try so hard to just be good enough 805 00:44:41,295 --> 00:44:45,589 That god will let my soul get to be by marilyn once again. 806 00:44:45,591 --> 00:44:49,644 - ♪ 66108

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