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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:03,455 --> 00:00:06,214 OK, Pembrokeshire OB is next with Jonathan Hill. 2 00:00:06,215 --> 00:00:07,613 Stand by, Pembrokeshire. 3 00:00:07,614 --> 00:00:09,814 Coming to you in three... 4 00:00:09,855 --> 00:00:11,632 ...two, one. 5 00:00:12,558 --> 00:00:14,797 Good evening. We are live in Pembrokeshire, 6 00:00:14,798 --> 00:00:17,516 where there have been dramatic developments 7 00:00:17,517 --> 00:00:19,437 involving two of Wales' most baffling crimes. 8 00:00:19,438 --> 00:00:23,317 Decades on, these two double murders are being reinvestigated. 9 00:00:23,318 --> 00:00:25,076 Detective Superintendent Steve Wilkins 10 00:00:25,077 --> 00:00:28,037 is the man leading this reinvestigation. 11 00:00:28,077 --> 00:00:31,877 Developments in DNA analysis have revolutionised 12 00:00:31,917 --> 00:00:33,678 cold case reviews. 13 00:00:33,718 --> 00:00:36,596 As a team, we have brought these processes to bear on these 14 00:00:36,597 --> 00:00:39,357 two investigations, and they have had a significant impact. 15 00:00:39,358 --> 00:00:42,622 And do you think it's the same local man responsible 16 00:00:42,637 --> 00:00:44,837 for all four murders? - I do believe that, Jonathan. 17 00:00:44,838 --> 00:00:47,636 Thanks to the advances in DNA forensic science, 18 00:00:47,637 --> 00:00:49,276 we are now in a much stronger position 19 00:00:49,277 --> 00:00:52,158 to catch the person responsible. 20 00:00:54,478 --> 00:00:56,196 - Happy? - That went quick. 21 00:00:56,197 --> 00:00:58,663 - Not so bad, was it? - No. Thank you. 22 00:01:52,277 --> 00:01:55,117 Prisoner Intelligence say that Cooper's new favourite place 23 00:01:55,118 --> 00:01:56,357 is the library. 24 00:01:56,398 --> 00:01:58,331 His specialist subject - DNA. 25 00:01:59,357 --> 00:02:00,597 The news item worked. 26 00:02:00,598 --> 00:02:02,997 He's worried we've found something. 27 00:02:03,038 --> 00:02:05,557 Oh, a date for the diary. 28 00:02:05,598 --> 00:02:08,476 Dyffryn Prison's governor has given us our dates for the interviews. 29 00:02:08,477 --> 00:02:10,078 A month from now. 30 00:02:10,118 --> 00:02:13,157 Monday, June 30th to Wednesday, July 2nd. 31 00:02:13,198 --> 00:02:15,756 We've got three days to get inside his head, 32 00:02:15,757 --> 00:02:18,877 find out the exhibits that give him night sweats. 33 00:02:18,918 --> 00:02:22,036 Rambo, we should find out if there are any psychologists out there 34 00:02:22,037 --> 00:02:24,237 who have interviewed him. We want their insights. 35 00:02:24,238 --> 00:02:25,477 Right you are. 36 00:02:25,518 --> 00:02:28,437 Boss, that was Pembroke Dock Police Station. 37 00:02:28,477 --> 00:02:29,957 Andrew Cooper was found collapsed 38 00:02:29,958 --> 00:02:32,756 by the railway tracks last night outside Fishguard. 39 00:02:32,757 --> 00:02:34,316 He was taken to Withybush Hospital. 40 00:02:34,317 --> 00:02:36,677 He claimed he overdid it on his pain medication. 41 00:02:36,678 --> 00:02:37,837 By the railway tracks? 42 00:02:37,838 --> 00:02:41,597 Apparently, he's adamant he wasn't trying to kill himself. 43 00:02:41,638 --> 00:02:44,504 He checked out of the hospital this morning. 44 00:02:47,678 --> 00:02:49,237 Tried to kill himself? 45 00:02:49,238 --> 00:02:51,436 Didn't try very hard, did he? He's still breathing. 46 00:02:51,437 --> 00:02:52,477 John... 47 00:02:52,518 --> 00:02:54,038 Anyway, guess what? 48 00:02:55,437 --> 00:02:57,570 The police want to interview me. 49 00:02:57,597 --> 00:03:00,669 That stuff on the news. I'm their bloody suspect. 50 00:03:02,078 --> 00:03:04,957 - Why you? - Well, it's the same as before, hm? 51 00:03:04,958 --> 00:03:07,156 Cos it's easier to frame an innocent man 52 00:03:07,157 --> 00:03:09,197 than it is for them to do their job. 53 00:03:09,198 --> 00:03:11,957 Now, you'd better be on your toes. They might wanna talk to you. 54 00:03:11,958 --> 00:03:13,317 Talk to me? 55 00:03:14,678 --> 00:03:16,876 What about? I don't know anything. 56 00:03:16,877 --> 00:03:19,237 When they come knocking, that's exactly what you tell them. 57 00:03:19,238 --> 00:03:23,476 And don't go running off to Adrian cos you feel sorry him. He's a rat. 58 00:03:23,477 --> 00:03:27,509 And anything you say to him will go directly back to the police. 59 00:03:33,118 --> 00:03:34,477 I'm coming! 60 00:03:38,597 --> 00:03:39,958 Hello, Andrew. 61 00:03:40,997 --> 00:03:42,118 Hello. 62 00:03:43,157 --> 00:03:45,917 Sorry to bother you. I heard you'd been in hospital. 63 00:03:45,918 --> 00:03:47,798 How are you doing? 64 00:03:47,838 --> 00:03:48,958 I'm fine. 65 00:03:52,597 --> 00:03:53,837 Well, I just wanted you to know 66 00:03:53,838 --> 00:03:56,357 that if you feel like you need some support, 67 00:03:56,358 --> 00:03:58,358 we can sort something for you. 68 00:03:59,597 --> 00:04:01,730 I don't need anything like that. 69 00:04:03,037 --> 00:04:05,237 You don't have to worry about me. 70 00:04:21,878 --> 00:04:23,437 Dr Harry Stephens... 71 00:04:23,438 --> 00:04:26,676 ...is a forensic psychologist from Liverpool University. 72 00:04:26,677 --> 00:04:31,037 Now, he interviewed Cooper for a book about violent offenders. 73 00:04:31,078 --> 00:04:33,837 He's the only person to have gone on record 74 00:04:33,838 --> 00:04:36,036 as saying that Cooper is a psychopath. 75 00:04:36,037 --> 00:04:37,878 He also told us that, 76 00:04:37,917 --> 00:04:40,476 like most psychopaths, Cooper is a narcissist 77 00:04:40,477 --> 00:04:43,597 and we should treat him accordingly. 78 00:04:43,638 --> 00:04:45,477 Like royalty. 79 00:04:45,518 --> 00:04:49,037 Er, pamper him into a false sense of security. 80 00:04:49,078 --> 00:04:53,117 Nige, we need you to find a suitable station for the interviews. 81 00:04:53,157 --> 00:04:55,878 Sterile, clean, quiet holding cells. 82 00:04:55,917 --> 00:04:58,116 And make sure the custody sergeant is very charming. 83 00:04:58,117 --> 00:04:59,116 Yes, boss. 84 00:04:59,117 --> 00:05:02,637 Dr Stephens also recommended that one of the interview team 85 00:05:02,638 --> 00:05:03,677 be a woman. 86 00:05:03,717 --> 00:05:07,077 Yeah, apparently, Cooper has a very low opinion of female intelligence. 87 00:05:07,078 --> 00:05:12,117 And a woman opposite him might make him drop his guard. 88 00:05:12,157 --> 00:05:14,517 - Are you up for that, missus? - Let me at him. 89 00:05:14,518 --> 00:05:17,156 That's settled, then. You and Rambo in the room. 90 00:05:17,157 --> 00:05:20,197 - What about you, boss? - I don't think it's clever. 91 00:05:20,198 --> 00:05:23,236 We know he's seen me on TV. I'm the face of the investigation. 92 00:05:23,237 --> 00:05:25,357 That could rattle him. 93 00:05:25,398 --> 00:05:28,997 No, I shall sit in the cheap seats with you lot on video link. 94 00:05:28,998 --> 00:05:31,958 Hey, here's to our interview team, then. 95 00:05:31,998 --> 00:05:34,438 Rambo and Bimbo. 96 00:05:34,477 --> 00:05:36,277 Oh...! 97 00:05:37,917 --> 00:05:39,356 I'll ask you again, John. 98 00:05:39,357 --> 00:05:41,997 Regarding the murders of Peter and Gwenda Dixon, 99 00:05:41,998 --> 00:05:44,131 were you the person responsible? 100 00:05:45,998 --> 00:05:47,676 He starts off cooperative. 101 00:05:47,677 --> 00:05:49,716 Then, when your man gets heavy-handed, 102 00:05:49,717 --> 00:05:51,276 down comes the portcullis. 103 00:05:51,277 --> 00:05:53,677 So, we keep it non-confrontational. 104 00:05:53,717 --> 00:05:57,917 Er, maybe even avoid any direct questions about the murders. 105 00:05:57,958 --> 00:05:59,437 If we can't talk about the murders, 106 00:05:59,438 --> 00:06:01,637 how are we supposed to get anything useful out of him? 107 00:06:01,638 --> 00:06:03,758 You talk about the exhibits. 108 00:06:03,797 --> 00:06:05,517 That's what this is all about, 109 00:06:05,518 --> 00:06:08,597 trying to draw out which ones he's worried about, 110 00:06:08,638 --> 00:06:12,862 which ones he thinks might bear a trace of his or his victims' DNA. 111 00:06:19,117 --> 00:06:20,597 Jack? 112 00:06:31,117 --> 00:06:32,597 Someone's keen. 113 00:06:33,838 --> 00:06:35,971 I've got a trial for the county. 114 00:06:36,318 --> 00:06:37,998 No way! 115 00:06:38,037 --> 00:06:39,717 Ah, that's great. 116 00:06:39,758 --> 00:06:41,717 Well done, Wilkins Junior! 117 00:06:41,758 --> 00:06:43,891 Do you think you can come along? 118 00:06:46,717 --> 00:06:48,197 - No, it's OK. - No, no, no. 119 00:06:48,198 --> 00:06:49,958 Bollocks. I'll be there. 120 00:06:50,998 --> 00:06:52,198 Well done, son! 121 00:06:53,157 --> 00:06:54,878 - Food? - Aye. 122 00:07:28,917 --> 00:07:29,917 All right? 123 00:07:31,078 --> 00:07:32,078 Yeah. 124 00:07:34,597 --> 00:07:36,730 I'll see you in sunny Ammanford. 125 00:07:36,758 --> 00:07:38,438 Steve Wilkins. 126 00:07:38,477 --> 00:07:40,597 Hello, boss, this is Control. 127 00:07:40,638 --> 00:07:44,998 Cooper has left Dyffryn Prison. ETA Ammanford 09:00. 128 00:07:45,037 --> 00:07:46,998 They're all set up for you. 129 00:08:09,797 --> 00:08:11,558 I found the kitchen, boss. 130 00:08:11,597 --> 00:08:12,878 Thanks. 131 00:08:17,677 --> 00:08:18,958 Yep? 132 00:08:19,998 --> 00:08:21,677 He's here. 133 00:08:28,717 --> 00:08:30,518 Good morning, John. 134 00:08:30,558 --> 00:08:32,157 I hope you had a comfortable journey. 135 00:08:32,158 --> 00:08:33,757 Oh, yes. 136 00:08:33,798 --> 00:08:35,198 Business class. 137 00:08:36,517 --> 00:08:39,317 See, it doesn't cost anything to be polite. 138 00:08:43,318 --> 00:08:44,918 He takes the bait. 139 00:08:44,958 --> 00:08:46,357 He's old. 140 00:08:51,958 --> 00:08:53,958 He still looks strong, though. 141 00:09:01,038 --> 00:09:02,318 All right, boss. 142 00:09:04,517 --> 00:09:05,637 Morning. 143 00:09:05,678 --> 00:09:07,198 Good morning, John. 144 00:09:08,198 --> 00:09:10,716 Where's the big cheese, then, the one off the telly? 145 00:09:10,717 --> 00:09:14,429 Detective Superintendent Wilkins won't be joining us, John. 146 00:09:16,117 --> 00:09:18,183 Oh, he likes to watch, does he? 147 00:09:19,958 --> 00:09:21,117 OK, John... 148 00:09:21,158 --> 00:09:22,757 ...1978. 149 00:09:22,798 --> 00:09:26,237 The year you won Spot The Ball. 150 00:09:26,278 --> 00:09:28,038 £94,000 151 00:09:28,078 --> 00:09:30,958 That's about £800,000 in today's money. 152 00:09:30,997 --> 00:09:32,596 Your life was good at the time. 153 00:09:32,597 --> 00:09:35,958 You bought Big House Farm at Rosemarket. 154 00:09:35,997 --> 00:09:37,717 Your wife told Huntsman 155 00:09:37,757 --> 00:09:41,277 you also took your brothers and their families to Spain. 156 00:09:41,278 --> 00:09:43,476 - I certainly did. - You didn't take Adrian. 157 00:09:43,477 --> 00:09:45,117 Why was that, John? 158 00:09:49,477 --> 00:09:51,597 I don't know. 159 00:09:51,637 --> 00:09:53,797 Maybe he was ill with his asthma. 160 00:09:53,798 --> 00:09:55,756 You've been talking to him, have you? 161 00:09:55,757 --> 00:09:57,278 No, John. 162 00:09:57,318 --> 00:09:59,718 We have his statements from Huntsman. 163 00:10:01,838 --> 00:10:03,477 So, John... 164 00:10:03,517 --> 00:10:04,756 ...things were going well. 165 00:10:04,757 --> 00:10:07,318 You were buying and selling properties. 166 00:10:07,357 --> 00:10:09,690 But then the money worries started. 167 00:10:11,838 --> 00:10:14,116 Well, an estate agent tricked me out of a lot of money. 168 00:10:14,117 --> 00:10:15,877 My solicitor lied to me. 169 00:10:15,918 --> 00:10:17,636 When you come into a bit of money, 170 00:10:17,637 --> 00:10:19,677 well, the cockroaches come out of the woodwork. 171 00:10:19,678 --> 00:10:21,277 It can't have been easy, 172 00:10:21,278 --> 00:10:23,797 moving from Big House Farm, making the adjustment 173 00:10:23,798 --> 00:10:28,517 from owning your own place to renting at 28 Rose Meadow Lane. 174 00:10:28,558 --> 00:10:30,396 A man doesn't sit around moping. 175 00:10:30,397 --> 00:10:32,437 He's got to get out there, got to get grafting. 176 00:10:32,438 --> 00:10:37,357 Between 1978 and 1983, you spent over £125,000. 177 00:10:37,397 --> 00:10:40,918 That's £35,000 more than your winnings on Spot The Ball. 178 00:10:41,918 --> 00:10:43,917 Well, you've got to speculate to accumulate. 179 00:10:43,918 --> 00:10:45,516 Is that when you started gambling? 180 00:10:45,517 --> 00:10:47,197 What, £3 or £4 a week? 181 00:10:47,198 --> 00:10:48,798 A 50p round robin? 182 00:10:48,838 --> 00:10:50,837 I'd hardly call that gambling. 183 00:10:50,838 --> 00:10:54,117 Adrian told Huntsman you bet £1,000 on one race. 184 00:10:57,158 --> 00:10:58,798 He misremembered. 185 00:11:02,237 --> 00:11:04,117 April 20th, 1983. 186 00:11:04,158 --> 00:11:05,476 Clareston Hall, Freystrop. 187 00:11:05,477 --> 00:11:10,021 Your first conviction for burglary. Is that your idea of grafting, John? 188 00:11:17,717 --> 00:11:19,397 I don't like your tone. 189 00:11:25,158 --> 00:11:27,158 Oh, don't shut down, John boy. 190 00:11:32,678 --> 00:11:33,838 John... 191 00:11:35,078 --> 00:11:38,534 ...if you don't want to talk to us, we'll respect that. 192 00:11:38,918 --> 00:11:41,518 You can go back to Dyffryn Prison today. 193 00:11:50,318 --> 00:11:52,278 I'm not a thief. 194 00:11:56,158 --> 00:11:57,997 Well done, Rambo. 195 00:11:58,038 --> 00:11:59,718 OK. You told Huntsman 196 00:11:59,757 --> 00:12:04,958 that you visited Scoveston Park for the first time in August 1984, 197 00:12:04,997 --> 00:12:07,516 when you went to meet Richard and Helen Thomas 198 00:12:07,517 --> 00:12:09,716 about working on their land. Is that correct, John? 199 00:12:09,717 --> 00:12:12,516 I know what Adrian told Huntsman about Scoveston Park. 200 00:12:12,517 --> 00:12:15,837 About me telling him and his mother to lie to the police 201 00:12:15,838 --> 00:12:18,756 about us all being in that night, the night of the fire. 202 00:12:18,757 --> 00:12:21,558 That the truth was, according to him, 203 00:12:21,597 --> 00:12:24,637 that I came home late smelling of a bonfire. 204 00:12:24,678 --> 00:12:27,942 Now, you say you haven't spoken to him. Fair enough. 205 00:12:28,278 --> 00:12:31,350 But there's something I want to get off my chest. 206 00:12:31,717 --> 00:12:33,317 Everything that comes out 207 00:12:33,318 --> 00:12:35,597 of that boy's mouth is lies. 208 00:12:35,637 --> 00:12:38,798 Has been ever since we didn't take him to Spain. 209 00:12:40,597 --> 00:12:43,158 When me and Pat got back... 210 00:12:43,198 --> 00:12:44,918 he was a different boy. 211 00:12:46,038 --> 00:12:47,477 He was surly. 212 00:12:48,757 --> 00:12:50,157 He was disobedient. 213 00:12:50,158 --> 00:12:51,596 Bunking off school. 214 00:12:51,597 --> 00:12:53,197 Smoking wacky baccy. 215 00:12:54,318 --> 00:12:57,678 Forging cheques. Stealing money... off us. 216 00:12:58,757 --> 00:13:01,657 And all because we didn't take him on holiday. 217 00:13:03,198 --> 00:13:04,637 As a father... 218 00:13:04,678 --> 00:13:06,944 I take no pleasure in saying this. 219 00:13:06,958 --> 00:13:10,606 But the truth is, the real truth, the night of the fire... 220 00:13:11,038 --> 00:13:12,798 ...the murders... 221 00:13:12,838 --> 00:13:15,517 Adrian was the one who came home late. 222 00:13:17,958 --> 00:13:20,516 He's pointing the finger at his own son? 223 00:13:20,517 --> 00:13:21,958 Piece of filth. 224 00:13:32,347 --> 00:13:34,866 You know, I've been across the table from wife-beaters, 225 00:13:34,867 --> 00:13:36,668 rapists, paedophiles. 226 00:13:36,707 --> 00:13:39,787 - And I let him get to me. - And you made something happen. 227 00:13:39,788 --> 00:13:42,106 When he feels under threat, he blames Adrian. 228 00:13:42,107 --> 00:13:43,706 That's something to keep an eye on. 229 00:13:43,707 --> 00:13:45,188 So... 230 00:13:45,227 --> 00:13:47,747 - tomorrow... - Huntsman. 231 00:13:47,788 --> 00:13:50,187 With particular emphasis on our prime exhibits. 232 00:13:50,188 --> 00:13:51,988 There you go, look at that. 233 00:14:17,668 --> 00:14:21,707 Now, John, I want to ask you about some exhibits 234 00:14:21,747 --> 00:14:24,628 found by Operation Huntsman. 235 00:14:24,668 --> 00:14:27,827 Some of them pertain to one particular robbery, 236 00:14:27,867 --> 00:14:31,307 the so-called Sardis robbery, for which you were convicted. 237 00:14:31,308 --> 00:14:32,748 Wrongly convicted. 238 00:14:34,548 --> 00:14:37,106 For the tape, I am showing Mr Cooper a photograph 239 00:14:37,107 --> 00:14:41,148 of Huntsman exhibit BB/109, a black glove. 240 00:14:41,188 --> 00:14:43,508 Do you recognise this glove, John? 241 00:14:43,548 --> 00:14:45,348 I haven't got the foggiest. 242 00:14:46,947 --> 00:14:49,508 I had a bit of an accident last night. 243 00:14:50,508 --> 00:14:52,226 I can't see a thing without them. Sorry. 244 00:14:52,227 --> 00:14:54,493 I know you're on a tight schedule. 245 00:14:55,188 --> 00:14:57,706 We know you had a problem with your glasses during Huntsman. 246 00:14:57,707 --> 00:14:59,907 We got your prescription from Dyffryn Prison. 247 00:14:59,908 --> 00:15:01,587 Just in case. 248 00:15:03,587 --> 00:15:04,946 I don't actually wear gloves. 249 00:15:04,947 --> 00:15:07,547 Adrian's the glove-wearer in the family. 250 00:15:08,628 --> 00:15:14,107 For the tape, evidence photo of Huntsman exhibit MTJ/14. 251 00:15:14,148 --> 00:15:15,307 Black balaclava. 252 00:15:15,308 --> 00:15:17,774 Do you recognise this balaclava, John? 253 00:15:18,947 --> 00:15:22,548 Do you remember that Huntsman found head hairs inside it 254 00:15:22,587 --> 00:15:24,226 that were forensically tested 255 00:15:24,227 --> 00:15:26,668 and confirmed to be yours? 256 00:15:33,067 --> 00:15:35,028 Yes. 257 00:15:35,067 --> 00:15:37,267 And yet you said it wasn't yours. 258 00:15:39,548 --> 00:15:41,147 That... was a mistake. 259 00:15:41,148 --> 00:15:43,414 I was wrong. I think that was mine. 260 00:15:50,908 --> 00:15:54,364 Ten years in prison, a man gets into a lot of thinking. 261 00:15:54,628 --> 00:15:57,706 He remembers things that he hasn't thought about for ages. 262 00:15:57,707 --> 00:15:59,907 And one of the things I do remember, 263 00:15:59,908 --> 00:16:02,268 and it was about 20 years ago, 264 00:16:02,308 --> 00:16:03,986 was I did used to have a black balaclava 265 00:16:03,987 --> 00:16:06,187 just like that one that I used to wear 266 00:16:06,188 --> 00:16:08,027 when I went fishing with a boat that I had. 267 00:16:08,028 --> 00:16:12,067 Well, remembering that, everything slotted into place. 268 00:16:12,107 --> 00:16:15,243 There's only one explanation that makes any sense. 269 00:16:16,388 --> 00:16:18,308 I didn't lose the balaclava. 270 00:16:18,347 --> 00:16:20,668 It was stolen. 271 00:16:20,707 --> 00:16:23,066 By the same individual who did the robbery 272 00:16:23,067 --> 00:16:25,308 that I was wrongly convicted of. 273 00:16:27,947 --> 00:16:29,107 OK, John. 274 00:16:29,148 --> 00:16:30,347 On we go. 275 00:16:30,388 --> 00:16:31,986 Huntsman exhibits... 276 00:16:31,987 --> 00:16:34,467 PAS/1, a sawn-off shotgun, 277 00:16:34,508 --> 00:16:36,388 and PH/2, 278 00:16:36,428 --> 00:16:39,387 a sawn-off shotgun with customised shoulder strap. 279 00:16:39,388 --> 00:16:41,867 Do you recognise these shotguns, John? 280 00:16:41,908 --> 00:16:43,641 You're trying to trick me. 281 00:16:44,867 --> 00:16:46,388 This gun is mine. 282 00:16:46,428 --> 00:16:48,388 This one is not. 283 00:16:48,428 --> 00:16:51,707 Huntsman found this gun, wrapped in oilcloth, 284 00:16:51,747 --> 00:16:54,106 buried underneath the duck run at your home. 285 00:16:54,107 --> 00:16:55,627 Why did you bury it, John? 286 00:16:55,628 --> 00:16:58,226 I didn't want Adrian to find it. Didn't want him hurting himself. 287 00:16:58,227 --> 00:16:59,908 And this gun, PH/2, 288 00:16:59,947 --> 00:17:03,548 was found with the glove and balaclava under the hedge 289 00:17:03,587 --> 00:17:06,107 close to the scene of the Sardis robbery. 290 00:17:06,108 --> 00:17:08,827 I'm aware. Huntsman must have told me about a hundred times. 291 00:17:08,828 --> 00:17:10,347 If you look closely, John, 292 00:17:10,348 --> 00:17:14,188 you will see that both guns have the same modifications. 293 00:17:14,227 --> 00:17:17,348 Sawn-off barrels and sawn-down stocks. 294 00:17:17,388 --> 00:17:19,668 Screws in both barrels and stocks 295 00:17:19,707 --> 00:17:21,387 for a shoulder strap. 296 00:17:22,148 --> 00:17:25,148 John, how do you account for the fact that 297 00:17:25,188 --> 00:17:28,467 the very same distinctive DIY modifications 298 00:17:28,507 --> 00:17:30,706 - were made to both shotguns? - Coincidence. 299 00:17:30,707 --> 00:17:33,026 Stranger things have happened, right? 300 00:17:33,027 --> 00:17:35,227 And while we're on the subject... 301 00:17:36,467 --> 00:17:40,706 ...I want to talk about the gun that Huntsman found under the hedge. 302 00:17:40,707 --> 00:17:41,947 For the tape. 303 00:17:41,987 --> 00:17:43,388 Here we go again. 304 00:17:43,428 --> 00:17:46,427 During the Huntsman trial, and I remember this very clearly 305 00:17:46,428 --> 00:17:48,986 because I thought it was very strange at the time, 306 00:17:48,987 --> 00:17:53,403 the prosecution barrister handed me the gun on more than one occasion. 307 00:17:54,507 --> 00:17:57,628 Well, what I'm saying is, if my DNA is on that, 308 00:17:57,668 --> 00:17:59,348 that's the reason why. 309 00:18:05,267 --> 00:18:07,746 His time in the library was well-spent. 310 00:18:07,747 --> 00:18:10,148 He's digging his own grave. 311 00:18:10,188 --> 00:18:12,428 Today was a result for us. 312 00:18:12,467 --> 00:18:13,506 The lengths he went to 313 00:18:13,507 --> 00:18:18,188 to distance himself from the Sardis exhibits means we are bang-on. 314 00:18:18,227 --> 00:18:21,547 His story about the gun being handled in the trial. 315 00:18:21,588 --> 00:18:25,148 The balaclava being stolen 20 years before, in 1988, 316 00:18:25,188 --> 00:18:27,121 the year before Coastal Path. 317 00:18:28,188 --> 00:18:31,387 He wasn't just telling us the man who stole the balaclava 318 00:18:31,388 --> 00:18:32,627 did the Sardis robbery, 319 00:18:32,628 --> 00:18:34,546 he was saying the man murdered the Dixons. 320 00:18:34,547 --> 00:18:37,226 Today, he confirmed what we'd always suspected. 321 00:18:37,227 --> 00:18:39,946 And he gave us something new into the bargain. 322 00:18:39,947 --> 00:18:42,668 When he killed Peter and Gwenda Dixon... 323 00:18:42,707 --> 00:18:44,388 he wore that balaclava. 324 00:18:44,428 --> 00:18:47,226 And PH/2 is, without a doubt, the murder weapon. 325 00:18:47,227 --> 00:18:50,026 What exhibits shall we send back for re-testing, then, boss? 326 00:18:50,027 --> 00:18:51,746 The Sardis robbery gun and the balaclava. 327 00:18:51,747 --> 00:18:53,187 Don't bother with the duck run gun. 328 00:18:53,188 --> 00:18:55,667 - Save that money for something else. - What about the glove? 329 00:18:55,668 --> 00:18:59,828 He said Adrian was the glove-wearer. That's got to mean something. 330 00:18:59,868 --> 00:19:01,388 Put it in. 331 00:19:01,428 --> 00:19:02,867 Don't all call me a twat at once... 332 00:19:02,868 --> 00:19:04,747 Twat! 333 00:19:04,787 --> 00:19:06,387 ...but what's the point in re-testing 334 00:19:06,388 --> 00:19:08,587 when we already know they'll come back negative? 335 00:19:08,588 --> 00:19:12,546 Testing for trace DNA is like battleships. It's a guessing game. 336 00:19:12,547 --> 00:19:14,546 The boffins can't see what they're looking for. 337 00:19:14,547 --> 00:19:16,546 They test small areas they think are most likely 338 00:19:16,547 --> 00:19:18,227 and hope for the best. 339 00:19:19,388 --> 00:19:21,587 But there's always bits that haven't been tested. 340 00:19:21,588 --> 00:19:22,587 So... 341 00:19:22,588 --> 00:19:25,054 ...tomorrow is our last day with him. 342 00:19:25,828 --> 00:19:28,547 I'm happy to risk a bit of confrontation. 343 00:19:28,588 --> 00:19:30,588 Rambo, I want Ella to lead. 344 00:19:30,628 --> 00:19:31,987 Right. 345 00:19:33,747 --> 00:19:35,613 Hey, don't leave me hanging! 346 00:19:43,747 --> 00:19:45,946 John, do you think the man in the drawing 347 00:19:45,947 --> 00:19:50,148 bears any resemblance to yourself as you were in July 1989? 348 00:19:52,947 --> 00:19:54,547 No, not at all. 349 00:19:56,547 --> 00:19:59,306 Even the detective who came round the house said as much at the time. 350 00:19:59,307 --> 00:20:02,507 Detective Rees. The one who used to drink with you? 351 00:20:02,787 --> 00:20:04,547 Yeah. 352 00:20:04,588 --> 00:20:07,187 So, John, how did you look in July 1989? 353 00:20:07,188 --> 00:20:09,387 - Haven't you got any photographs? - No, John. 354 00:20:09,388 --> 00:20:11,587 Which is why we'd appreciate your help. 355 00:20:11,588 --> 00:20:15,108 - I don't remember. It was 20 years ago. - 19, actually. 356 00:20:15,908 --> 00:20:17,067 Let me get this straight. 357 00:20:17,068 --> 00:20:18,986 You can't remember how you looked back then, 358 00:20:18,987 --> 00:20:22,147 but you're confident that this sketch, made at that time, 359 00:20:22,148 --> 00:20:24,148 doesn't resemble you at all. 360 00:20:24,188 --> 00:20:25,188 I'm sure. 361 00:20:25,227 --> 00:20:27,867 Because I know I didn't have hair that long. 362 00:20:27,868 --> 00:20:30,546 - You never had collar-length hair? - I don't like it on my neck. 363 00:20:30,547 --> 00:20:34,067 What about the clothes the man in the drawing's wearing, John? 364 00:20:34,068 --> 00:20:35,506 I don't go in for shorts. 365 00:20:35,507 --> 00:20:37,828 Shorts were more Adrian's thing. 366 00:20:40,348 --> 00:20:42,868 Stick with the shorts, Ella. 367 00:20:42,908 --> 00:20:45,667 The witness who saw this man using Peter Dixon's stolen cash card 368 00:20:45,668 --> 00:20:49,188 said that the shorts he was wearing were khaki coloured. 369 00:20:49,428 --> 00:20:52,328 Did you ever own a pair of khaki shorts, John? 370 00:20:52,628 --> 00:20:53,628 Yes. 371 00:20:54,908 --> 00:20:56,466 But they were more bathers 372 00:20:56,467 --> 00:20:58,307 than shorts. 373 00:20:58,348 --> 00:21:00,546 They were shorter. Those are long shorts. 374 00:21:00,547 --> 00:21:02,387 Mine were short shorts, more like bathers. 375 00:21:02,388 --> 00:21:05,267 Adrian used to wear them more than I did. 376 00:21:05,307 --> 00:21:08,188 He was always borrowing my clothes. 377 00:21:21,668 --> 00:21:23,867 These are the only shorts that Huntsman found 378 00:21:23,868 --> 00:21:26,507 at 28 Rose Meadow Lane. 379 00:21:26,547 --> 00:21:28,147 No khaki, and they're all a lot shorter 380 00:21:28,148 --> 00:21:29,587 than the ones in the wanted photo. 381 00:21:29,588 --> 00:21:30,907 What about bathers? 382 00:21:30,908 --> 00:21:33,306 - He said that more than once. - Bathers. 383 00:21:33,307 --> 00:21:35,786 Shorts. Swimming trucks. Trousers. We did the lot. 384 00:21:35,787 --> 00:21:37,147 He said Andrew wore them. 385 00:21:37,148 --> 00:21:39,267 That's his tell. 386 00:21:39,307 --> 00:21:42,588 Something about those shorts worries him. 387 00:21:42,628 --> 00:21:43,987 Why? 388 00:21:45,227 --> 00:21:47,093 And where the hell are they? 389 00:21:53,267 --> 00:21:54,867 Mrs Patricia Cooper? 390 00:21:55,947 --> 00:21:57,907 Detective Superintendent Steve Wilkins. 391 00:21:57,908 --> 00:21:59,347 This is DI Ella Richards. 392 00:21:59,348 --> 00:22:00,986 Can we come in for a minute, please? 393 00:22:00,987 --> 00:22:02,747 Come in. 394 00:22:13,707 --> 00:22:15,387 You won't find anything. 395 00:22:17,467 --> 00:22:19,867 Well, you lot took everything of John's nine years ago. 396 00:22:19,868 --> 00:22:21,388 Not us, Mrs Cooper. 397 00:22:22,588 --> 00:22:25,506 You used to work at Ocky White's, didn't you, Mrs Cooper? 398 00:22:25,507 --> 00:22:27,840 I was the best seamstress they had. 399 00:22:34,027 --> 00:22:37,706 These were taken the year your husband won on Spot The Ball? 400 00:22:37,707 --> 00:22:39,108 1978? 401 00:22:39,148 --> 00:22:40,868 - Yes? - Yes. 402 00:22:42,787 --> 00:22:45,987 A professional photographer came to the house. 403 00:22:46,027 --> 00:22:49,786 Do you have any later photographs of the two of you, Mrs Cooper? 404 00:22:49,787 --> 00:22:50,947 No. 405 00:22:52,068 --> 00:22:54,201 We weren't big on family photos. 406 00:22:57,307 --> 00:23:01,267 1978, that was the year you went on holiday to Spain, right? 407 00:23:02,588 --> 00:23:03,747 Yes. 408 00:23:03,787 --> 00:23:07,387 Do you mind me asking, why didn't you take Adrian with you? 409 00:23:07,388 --> 00:23:08,787 I don't remember. 410 00:23:12,348 --> 00:23:13,708 Are you finished? 411 00:23:16,547 --> 00:23:17,747 Thank you. 412 00:24:10,682 --> 00:24:12,362 What's wrong with you? 413 00:24:13,122 --> 00:24:14,803 I had the police round. 414 00:24:16,162 --> 00:24:19,803 Asking about an old khaki pair of bathers of yours. 415 00:24:19,842 --> 00:24:21,202 What's that about? 416 00:24:21,203 --> 00:24:23,082 - Did they find them? - No. 417 00:24:23,122 --> 00:24:25,962 They took all your clothes when you were arrested. You know that. 418 00:24:25,963 --> 00:24:29,739 I want you to get hold of Adrian. Find out if he's got them. 419 00:24:30,563 --> 00:24:32,161 I don't have a number for him. 420 00:24:32,162 --> 00:24:34,881 Well, Shirley's daughter, she's a receptionist in the hospital. 421 00:24:34,882 --> 00:24:36,722 She'll give it to you. You're his mother. 422 00:24:36,723 --> 00:24:38,922 You're telling me... 423 00:24:38,963 --> 00:24:40,321 to get in touch with Adrian? 424 00:24:40,322 --> 00:24:41,803 Yes! 425 00:24:47,642 --> 00:24:50,681 Forensics said they took it apart, tested every nook and cranny, 426 00:24:50,682 --> 00:24:52,442 every millimetre of the shoulder strap. 427 00:24:52,443 --> 00:24:55,002 Yeah, they also said re-testing it for DNA 428 00:24:55,003 --> 00:24:57,641 would be a complete waste of Ottawa's money and their time. 429 00:24:57,642 --> 00:25:00,243 That's not their call to make. 430 00:25:00,283 --> 00:25:02,842 Where are we with the forensics budget? 431 00:25:02,882 --> 00:25:04,283 17,000 left. 432 00:25:04,322 --> 00:25:05,842 Out of 350,000. 433 00:25:05,882 --> 00:25:07,203 Jesus... 434 00:25:07,243 --> 00:25:09,121 Boss, I'm not convinced we're getting 435 00:25:09,122 --> 00:25:11,522 the best possible bang for our buck here. 436 00:25:11,523 --> 00:25:14,042 I think we should have a sit-down with Dr Gallop. 437 00:25:14,043 --> 00:25:17,883 Make sure we're not getting sidelined by some big London job. 438 00:25:18,602 --> 00:25:21,081 Is that metal I can see through the paint? 439 00:25:21,082 --> 00:25:24,081 It's where the finish has worn off. That thing was made in the 1940s. 440 00:25:24,082 --> 00:25:27,161 - And that's the manufacturer's finish? - Yeah, we assumed. 441 00:25:27,162 --> 00:25:30,810 Obviously, we've not seen the thing in the flesh. Assumed? 442 00:25:31,283 --> 00:25:33,122 Really, Lynne? Glyn? 443 00:25:35,563 --> 00:25:38,699 Did Huntsman recover any paint from Cooper's home? 444 00:25:39,642 --> 00:25:41,161 Yeah, six pots in the shed. 445 00:25:41,162 --> 00:25:43,161 Nige, get the Huntsman shed file. 446 00:25:43,162 --> 00:25:44,602 Any of them black? 447 00:25:46,122 --> 00:25:47,203 Yeah. 448 00:25:47,243 --> 00:25:48,723 JAW/100. 449 00:25:49,803 --> 00:25:51,162 JAW/100... 450 00:26:00,283 --> 00:26:02,803 I want that taken out of storage. 451 00:26:12,682 --> 00:26:15,081 Your team have been on this case for 18 months now 452 00:26:15,082 --> 00:26:16,921 and all we've got to show for it is 453 00:26:16,922 --> 00:26:20,122 a partial for Peter Dixon's DNA on a piece of rope. 454 00:26:20,162 --> 00:26:22,922 With respect, we're seeing this a lot. 455 00:26:22,963 --> 00:26:25,963 This obsession with DNA at the expense of... 456 00:26:26,922 --> 00:26:29,962 ...well, other, less fashionable avenues of analysis. 457 00:26:29,963 --> 00:26:34,443 Ottawa's insistence that we focus solely on DNA 458 00:26:34,483 --> 00:26:36,641 has put my team in a straitjacket. 459 00:26:36,642 --> 00:26:39,586 No. No, no, no. We asked you to prioritise DNA, 460 00:26:39,602 --> 00:26:41,401 but not to the exclusion of everything else. 461 00:26:41,402 --> 00:26:43,841 But that's the impression you gave my colleague. 462 00:26:43,842 --> 00:26:45,402 Dr Gallop... 463 00:26:46,402 --> 00:26:48,722 ...let's say we remove the straitjacket. 464 00:26:48,723 --> 00:26:50,682 How would that change things? 465 00:26:50,723 --> 00:26:52,962 Well, it would allow us to widen our search, 466 00:26:52,963 --> 00:26:55,642 look for other types of evidence. 467 00:26:55,682 --> 00:26:59,043 Now, we're agreed that the killer wore gloves, yes? 468 00:26:59,082 --> 00:27:00,881 We look for textile fibres. 469 00:27:00,882 --> 00:27:02,361 Fibres are circumstantial. 470 00:27:02,362 --> 00:27:04,922 - We need hard proof. - Yes, but... 471 00:27:04,963 --> 00:27:08,803 if we can find enough fibres linking culprit to victim, 472 00:27:08,842 --> 00:27:11,642 it could tell an equally compelling story 473 00:27:11,682 --> 00:27:13,361 about the circumstances of the crimes. 474 00:27:13,362 --> 00:27:17,010 Maybe even get you over the charge threshold with the CPS. 475 00:27:20,043 --> 00:27:21,122 OK. 476 00:27:21,162 --> 00:27:22,282 Let's go for it. 477 00:27:22,283 --> 00:27:24,082 All right. 478 00:27:24,122 --> 00:27:26,642 We have one other request. 479 00:27:26,682 --> 00:27:28,322 We believe... 480 00:27:28,362 --> 00:27:31,002 that this is the Coastal Path murder weapon. 481 00:27:31,003 --> 00:27:32,362 Yeah, PH/2. 482 00:27:32,402 --> 00:27:34,601 I heard you'd asked the team to have another look. 483 00:27:34,602 --> 00:27:36,802 Yes, but this is a different request. 484 00:27:36,803 --> 00:27:38,282 Among the items recovered by Huntsman 485 00:27:38,283 --> 00:27:39,522 from the shed at Cooper's home 486 00:27:39,523 --> 00:27:43,563 was this 750ml tin of Anvileen satin black metal paint. 487 00:27:46,483 --> 00:27:49,723 I think Cooper painted the barrels of the gun 488 00:27:49,763 --> 00:27:51,522 to make it less visible at night. 489 00:27:51,523 --> 00:27:52,723 Hm. 490 00:27:52,763 --> 00:27:54,002 The murders were in 1989. 491 00:27:54,003 --> 00:27:58,362 Anvileen didn't manufacture this particular paint until 1995. 492 00:27:58,402 --> 00:28:00,922 So, if PH/2 is the murder weapon, 493 00:28:00,963 --> 00:28:04,723 there could still be trace DNA under the paint. 494 00:28:04,763 --> 00:28:07,362 Well, that's more than six years. 495 00:28:07,402 --> 00:28:09,601 During which the gun would've been cleaned, 496 00:28:09,602 --> 00:28:11,935 rained on, exposed to the elements. 497 00:28:13,003 --> 00:28:17,035 Are you sure this is the best use of what's left of your budget? 498 00:28:18,602 --> 00:28:19,882 I'm sure. 499 00:28:21,203 --> 00:28:22,443 All right. 500 00:28:53,723 --> 00:28:55,003 Hello? 501 00:28:57,003 --> 00:28:58,483 Hello, Adrian. 502 00:29:32,963 --> 00:29:35,161 - Hello?- How did you get my number? 503 00:29:35,162 --> 00:29:37,003 Nice to hear from you, too! 504 00:29:40,082 --> 00:29:41,642 What do you want? 505 00:29:41,682 --> 00:29:43,615 Just to find out how you are. 506 00:29:45,963 --> 00:29:47,896 I heard you were in hospital. 507 00:29:50,043 --> 00:29:52,943 Why did you go and do a silly thing like that? 508 00:29:56,003 --> 00:29:57,483 It was nothing. 509 00:29:57,523 --> 00:29:58,963 A mistake. 510 00:30:00,563 --> 00:30:02,896 I thought I could come and see you. 511 00:30:05,003 --> 00:30:07,122 It's not a good time. 512 00:30:07,162 --> 00:30:08,722 I'm doing the place up. 513 00:30:08,723 --> 00:30:10,122 It's a bombsite. 514 00:30:11,203 --> 00:30:13,523 So, come to mine, then. 515 00:30:22,243 --> 00:30:24,881 Ah, boss. Ollie Wakefield from the CPS called you. 516 00:30:24,882 --> 00:30:26,122 Great. 517 00:30:27,203 --> 00:30:28,562 Ollie, Steve Wilkins. 518 00:30:28,563 --> 00:30:29,803 Listen... 519 00:30:29,842 --> 00:30:31,563 Ottawa needs a favour. 520 00:30:31,602 --> 00:30:33,081 The governor at Dyffryn Prison 521 00:30:33,082 --> 00:30:35,282 refuses to delay Cooper's second parole hearing. 522 00:30:35,283 --> 00:30:38,282 And I think a word from the CPS might persuade the man 523 00:30:38,283 --> 00:30:39,522 to see some sense. 524 00:30:39,523 --> 00:30:41,882 The case, it isn't there, Steve. 525 00:30:41,922 --> 00:30:44,601 You know what the prison services will say. No hard evidence. 526 00:30:44,602 --> 00:30:47,042 - I'm sorry. - Ollie, if he is released 527 00:30:47,043 --> 00:30:49,522 back into the community and he hurts someone, 528 00:30:49,523 --> 00:30:52,242 "institutionally incompetent" will be a happy memory 529 00:30:52,243 --> 00:30:55,682 when we are up to our necks in public inquiries. 530 00:30:55,723 --> 00:30:58,256 You're that convinced he'll kill again? 531 00:30:58,842 --> 00:31:00,682 He's a serial killer. 532 00:31:00,723 --> 00:31:02,483 Serial killers don't... 533 00:31:02,523 --> 00:31:04,162 They can't stop. 534 00:31:04,203 --> 00:31:06,722 Steve, inevitable mutterings have started. 535 00:31:06,723 --> 00:31:09,123 There's talk of shutting Ottawa down. 536 00:31:45,322 --> 00:31:46,602 Hi, Ma. 537 00:31:49,283 --> 00:31:50,963 What happened to you? 538 00:31:52,402 --> 00:31:54,003 An accident at work. 539 00:32:13,082 --> 00:32:15,148 I thought you might be peckish. 540 00:32:22,922 --> 00:32:25,162 Are you still visiting him? 541 00:32:25,203 --> 00:32:26,763 Every week. 542 00:32:28,642 --> 00:32:31,803 Is he gonna live here with you when he gets out? 543 00:32:31,842 --> 00:32:33,563 I'm his wife. 544 00:32:33,602 --> 00:32:35,468 Where else is he gonna live? 545 00:32:41,043 --> 00:32:43,282 He's a bit worked up at the moment. 546 00:32:43,283 --> 00:32:45,616 The police are bothering him again. 547 00:32:46,963 --> 00:32:48,122 Oh, yeah? 548 00:32:50,443 --> 00:32:51,723 Actually... 549 00:32:53,243 --> 00:32:54,763 it's a silly thing. 550 00:32:56,283 --> 00:32:59,995 You don't have an old pair of khaki bathers of his, do you? 551 00:33:04,523 --> 00:33:07,256 Still running things, even from in prison. 552 00:33:08,882 --> 00:33:12,722 It wasn't true what I said earlier about an accident at work. 553 00:33:14,003 --> 00:33:15,483 He did this to me. 554 00:33:15,523 --> 00:33:17,841 The same year you had those stupid photos done, 555 00:33:17,842 --> 00:33:19,402 he broke my back. 556 00:33:19,443 --> 00:33:20,921 He didn't break your back. 557 00:33:20,922 --> 00:33:24,921 A year ago, I was fit and strong, working in Ireland, hod-carrying. 558 00:33:24,922 --> 00:33:28,122 One morning, it was like I was struck by lightning. 559 00:33:28,963 --> 00:33:30,643 Nine hours of surgery. 560 00:33:31,602 --> 00:33:34,243 Rods and screws in my pelvis and spine. 561 00:33:34,283 --> 00:33:36,643 I thought it was the work that caused it, but the consultant 562 00:33:36,644 --> 00:33:39,285 told me it was an injury from childhood. 563 00:33:41,162 --> 00:33:43,802 Straight away, I knew it was that punch in the back. 564 00:33:43,803 --> 00:33:47,081 You knew something was seriously wrong when it happened, 565 00:33:47,082 --> 00:33:49,002 but you didn't take me to the hospital 566 00:33:49,003 --> 00:33:51,601 because he was worried someone might be suspicious. 567 00:33:51,602 --> 00:33:53,121 I never knew it was serious. 568 00:33:53,122 --> 00:33:54,483 I couldn't move! 569 00:33:56,283 --> 00:33:59,355 You left me to lie in my own urine for five days. 570 00:34:01,003 --> 00:34:03,669 You didn't even change my sopping sheets. 571 00:34:05,122 --> 00:34:08,770 You brought me plenty of toast and strawberry jam, though! 572 00:34:09,202 --> 00:34:11,442 A couple of weeks later, you left me with nan 573 00:34:11,443 --> 00:34:13,643 and all took off for sunny Spain. 574 00:34:16,883 --> 00:34:19,202 I was 12 years old. 575 00:34:20,443 --> 00:34:23,109 We thought it was better that you rested. 576 00:34:25,122 --> 00:34:26,721 What's wrong with you? 577 00:34:26,722 --> 00:34:29,563 I didn't know. 578 00:34:34,443 --> 00:34:36,003 Don't go, Adrian. 579 00:34:36,043 --> 00:34:38,042 I didn't just call you because he told me to. 580 00:34:38,043 --> 00:34:39,963 I've missed you. 581 00:34:52,403 --> 00:34:54,682 Second time lucky. 582 00:34:54,722 --> 00:34:56,162 I got it? 583 00:34:56,202 --> 00:34:57,842 Congratulations, John. 584 00:34:57,843 --> 00:35:00,043 You're gonna be out by Christmas. 585 00:35:04,642 --> 00:35:06,003 Well done. 586 00:35:29,202 --> 00:35:31,883 Yup. Well... 587 00:35:31,923 --> 00:35:33,723 thanks for letting me know. 588 00:35:39,122 --> 00:35:41,161 I can't believe they're letting him out now. 589 00:35:41,162 --> 00:35:43,323 We're so close. 590 00:35:43,363 --> 00:35:44,682 Are we, though? 591 00:35:45,762 --> 00:35:49,090 I'm gonna put that down to exhaustion and a shit day. 592 00:35:50,483 --> 00:35:52,681 Do you know what I do after a shit day? 593 00:35:52,682 --> 00:35:53,722 What? 594 00:35:53,762 --> 00:35:55,242 I go home... 595 00:35:55,282 --> 00:35:58,930 and I eat a large amount of unhealthy food with my family. 596 00:35:59,802 --> 00:36:01,682 Go home, Steve. 597 00:36:01,722 --> 00:36:03,162 Be with your boy. 598 00:36:04,363 --> 00:36:05,602 Evening! 599 00:36:06,843 --> 00:36:09,043 Jack? 600 00:36:09,082 --> 00:36:10,762 I've got fish and chips! 601 00:36:22,963 --> 00:36:25,641 Hey, it's Jack Wilkins. I'm not here at the moment. 602 00:36:25,642 --> 00:36:28,542 Just leave a message and I'll get back to you. 603 00:36:38,642 --> 00:36:39,802 Finally! 604 00:36:40,923 --> 00:36:44,282 You know, I'd appreciate it if, once in a blue moon, 605 00:36:44,323 --> 00:36:47,267 you'd answer your phone or responded to a text. 606 00:36:49,202 --> 00:36:51,601 Have you been drinking, by any chance? 607 00:36:51,602 --> 00:36:53,468 Yeah, I've been celebrating! 608 00:36:53,883 --> 00:36:55,282 Celebrating what? 609 00:36:55,323 --> 00:36:57,162 I made the county team. 610 00:36:58,963 --> 00:37:01,629 Thanks for being there for me today, Dad! 611 00:37:02,043 --> 00:37:03,403 Shit...! 612 00:37:05,003 --> 00:37:06,282 Jack! 613 00:37:06,323 --> 00:37:08,282 Jack! 614 00:37:16,523 --> 00:37:18,003 Leave me alone. 615 00:37:19,082 --> 00:37:20,762 There's no need for that. 616 00:37:22,363 --> 00:37:23,682 I'm sorry, Jack. 617 00:37:25,443 --> 00:37:29,483 You made such a big deal about us spending more time together. 618 00:37:29,523 --> 00:37:32,882 But you just can't do it. You're so fucking obsessed with your work. 619 00:37:32,883 --> 00:37:34,042 You're a shit dad. 620 00:37:34,043 --> 00:37:36,376 Hey, now, come on. That's not fair. 621 00:37:38,003 --> 00:37:39,721 Look, I'm sorry I forgot about the trial. 622 00:37:39,722 --> 00:37:41,855 I'm sorry I'm not a perfect dad. 623 00:37:44,082 --> 00:37:45,762 It's no excuse. 624 00:37:45,802 --> 00:37:47,868 I took my eye off the ball, OK? 625 00:37:52,043 --> 00:37:53,202 OK. 626 00:37:59,563 --> 00:38:00,843 Have you eaten? 627 00:38:00,883 --> 00:38:02,162 Yeah. 628 00:38:02,202 --> 00:38:03,722 Right, well... 629 00:38:03,762 --> 00:38:05,563 get some kip. 630 00:38:24,698 --> 00:38:26,496 This is last chance saloon, guys. 631 00:38:26,497 --> 00:38:28,217 Cooper will be home in a week. 632 00:38:28,218 --> 00:38:30,778 We have got to go over everything. 633 00:38:31,977 --> 00:38:34,643 I mean, not having a photograph of Cooper 634 00:38:34,657 --> 00:38:37,217 that we can compare to the artist's impression, 635 00:38:37,218 --> 00:38:38,898 it's a hole in our case. 636 00:38:39,698 --> 00:38:43,017 Nige, Glyn, doorstep his and Pat's relatives. 637 00:38:43,057 --> 00:38:45,857 Tell them that we need family photographs for our records. 638 00:38:45,858 --> 00:38:47,017 Yes, boss. 639 00:38:47,057 --> 00:38:48,418 I'll drive. 640 00:39:03,418 --> 00:39:04,778 Andrew... 641 00:39:08,497 --> 00:39:10,497 What about Pat? 642 00:39:10,537 --> 00:39:13,456 He'll be housed somewhere else, right? She can't live with him now. 643 00:39:13,457 --> 00:39:15,176 They've been married a long time, Andrew. 644 00:39:15,177 --> 00:39:17,617 If he was gonna do something to her, he'd have done it by now. 645 00:39:17,618 --> 00:39:19,218 You don't know that. 646 00:39:20,017 --> 00:39:24,113 He's been in prison ten years. Who knows what that's done to him? 647 00:39:24,778 --> 00:39:26,511 She's still scared of him. 648 00:39:27,218 --> 00:39:29,057 I went to see her. 649 00:39:29,097 --> 00:39:31,258 She called me. 650 00:39:32,298 --> 00:39:33,497 I thought... 651 00:39:34,898 --> 00:39:37,798 I thought she wanted a mother-and-son reunion. 652 00:39:38,418 --> 00:39:40,684 But she was just following orders. 653 00:39:42,177 --> 00:39:45,737 He wanted her to find out if I had an old pair of bathers of his. 654 00:39:45,738 --> 00:39:47,804 Does that mean anything to you? 655 00:39:48,338 --> 00:39:50,497 Do you have them? 656 00:39:50,537 --> 00:39:52,698 I wouldn't wear anything of his. 657 00:39:55,577 --> 00:39:57,257 Get down there, Jack! 658 00:39:57,258 --> 00:39:58,898 Come on! 659 00:40:00,898 --> 00:40:03,057 Corner. 660 00:40:04,338 --> 00:40:06,457 Right, on it! 661 00:40:08,657 --> 00:40:10,057 Yes! 662 00:40:10,097 --> 00:40:11,338 Go on, son! 663 00:40:12,497 --> 00:40:13,657 Yes! 664 00:40:15,577 --> 00:40:18,297 - So, the scout was there again today. - He was? Did he speak to you? 665 00:40:18,298 --> 00:40:21,164 He's gonna give me a ring after the weekend. 666 00:40:21,378 --> 00:40:24,257 - Thanks for being there today, Dad. - Oh, my pleasure, sunshine. 667 00:40:24,258 --> 00:40:27,136 - I'm sorry I've been a bit of a pain. - Oh, don't you worry about it. 668 00:40:27,137 --> 00:40:28,858 Hey, I'll see you later. 669 00:40:28,898 --> 00:40:31,297 - You're not coming in? - I'd better not. 670 00:40:31,298 --> 00:40:34,137 Is it something to do with work? 671 00:40:34,177 --> 00:40:37,077 - It's one of his old haunts. - You're joking? 672 00:40:37,617 --> 00:40:40,377 I shouldn't go in. Someone might recognise me. 673 00:40:40,378 --> 00:40:41,818 So? 674 00:40:41,858 --> 00:40:44,217 Well, I don't want you connected to me. 675 00:40:44,218 --> 00:40:45,898 It's just a precaution. 676 00:40:45,938 --> 00:40:47,976 It's fine. I'll go in ahead of you. 677 00:40:47,977 --> 00:40:50,617 Aren't you curious to see inside? 678 00:40:50,657 --> 00:40:52,657 Come on, you know you want to. 679 00:40:55,137 --> 00:40:58,037 It's fine. Go on, I'll pick you up in an hour. 680 00:41:32,097 --> 00:41:34,378 A pint of lager shandy, please. 681 00:41:42,977 --> 00:41:44,378 All right, lads? 682 00:42:01,698 --> 00:42:03,457 Excuse me. 683 00:42:03,497 --> 00:42:05,017 Dyfed Powys Police. 684 00:42:08,017 --> 00:42:10,698 Can you identify the man in the picture? 685 00:42:10,738 --> 00:42:14,338 With the 'tache? Aye, that's Johnny Cooper. 686 00:42:14,378 --> 00:42:15,777 When was the photograph taken? 687 00:42:15,778 --> 00:42:17,977 I don't know, the late '80s. 688 00:42:18,017 --> 00:42:20,217 Probably about the time he was on that... 689 00:42:20,218 --> 00:42:22,897 What do you call it? That darts quiz show on telly. 690 00:42:22,898 --> 00:42:25,298 - Bullseye? - Aye. That's the one. 691 00:42:30,258 --> 00:42:32,657 Bullseye, 1989. 692 00:42:34,338 --> 00:42:36,497 You are shitting me! 693 00:42:36,537 --> 00:42:38,257 The year he killed the Dixons, 694 00:42:38,258 --> 00:42:40,456 Cooper was throwing darts on national television. 695 00:42:40,457 --> 00:42:41,537 On ITV! 696 00:42:41,577 --> 00:42:45,033 We've been looking for a photo of the bastard from '89. 697 00:42:45,057 --> 00:42:47,923 And we might well have a whole bloody video. 698 00:42:48,738 --> 00:42:50,497 Jesus Christ...! 699 00:43:38,537 --> 00:43:40,057 Welcome home, love. 700 00:43:44,617 --> 00:43:45,738 What? 701 00:43:46,977 --> 00:43:48,338 Come here. 702 00:43:55,338 --> 00:43:59,016 So, Bullseye was produced by Central Television in Birmingham. 703 00:43:59,017 --> 00:44:02,217 But recordings of old shows are held in an archive in Leeds. 704 00:44:02,218 --> 00:44:03,656 Now, the librarian there 705 00:44:03,657 --> 00:44:05,697 has been going through lists of old contestants 706 00:44:05,698 --> 00:44:07,698 from old shows from the '80s. 707 00:44:07,738 --> 00:44:09,537 And in series nine, 708 00:44:09,577 --> 00:44:13,337 there's two contestants identified as being from South Pembrokeshire. 709 00:44:13,338 --> 00:44:18,137 Now, the episode they were in was broadcast in October '89. 710 00:44:18,177 --> 00:44:20,818 But it was recorded on 28th May. 711 00:44:22,497 --> 00:44:25,633 A month and a day before the Dixons were murdered. 712 00:44:37,898 --> 00:44:41,866 - So, you've got the tapes, then? - Yeah, they've just arrived. 713 00:44:45,057 --> 00:44:47,577 It's a bull's-eye! 714 00:44:47,617 --> 00:44:49,457 And here's your host... 715 00:44:49,497 --> 00:44:51,176 - Jim Bowen!- Good evening. 716 00:44:51,177 --> 00:44:52,818 Welcome to Bullseye. 717 00:44:52,858 --> 00:44:55,866 Can you just fast-forward it to the contestants? 718 00:44:58,298 --> 00:44:59,778 Good. 719 00:44:59,825 --> 00:45:01,697 You've got an unusual hobby, John. 720 00:45:01,698 --> 00:45:04,496 Oh, yes, the scuba diving. The scuba diving. 721 00:45:04,497 --> 00:45:06,777 It's the place to do it down there, isn't it? 722 00:45:06,778 --> 00:45:08,456 Well, we've got the coastline, yes. 723 00:45:08,457 --> 00:45:11,257 And there's the shoulder-length hair he never had. 724 00:45:11,258 --> 00:45:12,737 Well, we've got the deep water... 725 00:45:12,738 --> 00:45:14,937 And you can swim over mountains and all sorts. 726 00:45:14,938 --> 00:45:19,034 We hope you all have a good night. Give them a round of applause. 727 00:45:30,738 --> 00:45:32,258 Best of luck, John. 728 00:45:33,977 --> 00:45:35,378 That's five. 729 00:45:35,418 --> 00:45:36,577 '20. 730 00:45:38,738 --> 00:45:39,938 And one. 731 00:45:39,977 --> 00:45:41,258 26. 732 00:45:57,298 --> 00:45:59,136 '36, and takes the first round. 733 00:45:59,137 --> 00:46:03,041 Right, John, it's only £36, but you really could do with this. 734 00:46:03,218 --> 00:46:05,418 What are you having a bath for? 735 00:46:06,537 --> 00:46:08,017 I won't be long! 736 00:46:09,137 --> 00:46:11,603 - I could get in with you. - No, John. 737 00:46:12,218 --> 00:46:14,057 - I'm shy. - Shy? 738 00:46:14,097 --> 00:46:16,363 I've seen it all before, you know? 739 00:46:18,818 --> 00:46:21,137 Come on, missus, let me in. 740 00:46:30,818 --> 00:46:32,297 Can you pause it there, please? 741 00:46:32,298 --> 00:46:34,418 Rewind a bit. 742 00:46:34,457 --> 00:46:35,617 There. 743 00:46:42,057 --> 00:46:45,177 It may not prove he killed the Dixons. 744 00:46:45,218 --> 00:46:48,482 But it proves what he looked like four weeks before. 745 00:46:59,938 --> 00:47:02,057 999, which service? 746 00:47:03,858 --> 00:47:05,057 Hello? 747 00:47:06,338 --> 00:47:10,097 MUSIC: Suo Gan 55682

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