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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,917 Hi, this is Eric Clapton here. 2 00:00:40,917 --> 00:00:41,792 I just want to uh... 3 00:00:41,792 --> 00:00:43,542 Express my sadness 4 00:00:43,542 --> 00:00:45,959 and uh... 5 00:00:45,959 --> 00:00:47,166 To say, thank you, 6 00:00:48,083 --> 00:00:50,917 to my dear friend B.B. King. 7 00:00:50,917 --> 00:00:53,667 I want to thank him for all the inspiration and 8 00:00:53,667 --> 00:00:57,166 encouragement he gave me as a player over the years and 9 00:00:57,166 --> 00:00:59,041 for the friendship that we enjoyed. 10 00:01:00,041 --> 00:01:01,959 Um... 11 00:01:01,959 --> 00:01:06,709 There's not a lot left to say because this music, um... 12 00:01:06,709 --> 00:01:09,291 It's almost a thing of the past now. 13 00:01:09,291 --> 00:01:11,417 So, uh, if you're not familiar with his work then I... 14 00:01:11,417 --> 00:01:16,166 I would encourage you to go out and find an album called, 15 00:01:16,166 --> 00:01:18,041 B.B King Live at the Regal. 16 00:01:18,041 --> 00:01:19,792 Which is where it all really started for me 17 00:01:19,792 --> 00:01:20,917 as a young player. 18 00:01:46,083 --> 00:01:48,041 I had a blissful childhood. 19 00:01:51,333 --> 00:01:54,750 I was raised with a great deal of love by my parents. 20 00:01:54,750 --> 00:01:56,500 Especially by my mother. 21 00:01:56,500 --> 00:01:58,625 Because she loved me in an unconditional way. 22 00:02:17,417 --> 00:02:18,375 [ Puffin' Billy playing] 23 00:02:30,041 --> 00:02:32,875 People say I was pretty spoilt and I was selfish. 24 00:02:33,875 --> 00:02:34,959 I'm sure I must've had some qualities, 25 00:02:34,959 --> 00:02:37,250 but not from what I hear. 26 00:02:39,417 --> 00:02:41,959 I was very fond of painting and drawing. 27 00:02:41,959 --> 00:02:44,375 Anything that was introverted. 28 00:03:06,166 --> 00:03:08,333 I knew that I was different. 29 00:03:08,333 --> 00:03:10,792 And I knew that other kids at school 30 00:03:10,792 --> 00:03:13,500 regarded me as different or maybe inferior 31 00:03:13,500 --> 00:03:16,083 and I did have a massive inferiority complex. 32 00:03:16,709 --> 00:03:18,500 And I didn't know why. 33 00:03:28,750 --> 00:03:33,458 Then I found out that my sister was really my mother. 34 00:03:34,875 --> 00:03:37,250 She left when I was very, very young 35 00:03:37,250 --> 00:03:39,667 and I was raised by my grandparents. 36 00:04:08,083 --> 00:04:11,542 Pat was very lively, very difficult youngster. 37 00:04:12,959 --> 00:04:15,291 She wasn't easy. 38 00:04:15,291 --> 00:04:16,458 Rose used to say she was a nightmare. 39 00:04:18,917 --> 00:04:20,583 She met this Canadian. 40 00:04:20,583 --> 00:04:24,083 He was over here in England in the village. 41 00:04:24,083 --> 00:04:26,208 And it was one-night-stand. 42 00:04:28,500 --> 00:04:30,375 In those days to be pregnant 43 00:04:30,375 --> 00:04:32,458 and young and you're not married 44 00:04:32,458 --> 00:04:34,041 was awful. 45 00:04:35,917 --> 00:04:37,542 Ric was born and she just went to Canada. 46 00:04:44,041 --> 00:04:47,417 If Rose and Jack hadn't have taken him on, 47 00:04:47,417 --> 00:04:49,417 I don't know what would have happened to him. 48 00:04:49,417 --> 00:04:51,083 I really don't. 49 00:05:02,041 --> 00:05:03,750 I felt hurt. 50 00:05:03,750 --> 00:05:05,166 Very, very upset. 51 00:05:06,125 --> 00:05:08,458 At that point I mistrusted everybody 52 00:05:08,458 --> 00:05:09,917 including my grandparents. 53 00:05:10,792 --> 00:05:12,458 I was so confused. 54 00:05:12,458 --> 00:05:13,959 It seemed to me that my life 55 00:05:13,959 --> 00:05:14,458 had been a lie. 56 00:05:21,583 --> 00:05:23,083 Hello, children everywhere. 57 00:05:23,083 --> 00:05:25,875 This Uncle Mac. Good morning, to you all. 58 00:05:25,875 --> 00:05:27,917 Here in London on Saturday. 59 00:05:27,917 --> 00:05:28,959 Uncle Mac was on the radio 60 00:05:28,959 --> 00:05:31,834 on Saturday morning. 61 00:05:31,834 --> 00:05:36,291 And he would play a variety of music for kids. 62 00:05:36,291 --> 00:05:38,458 How Much Is That Doggie In The Window? 63 00:05:38,458 --> 00:05:40,792 All those kind of novelty things he would play. 64 00:05:40,792 --> 00:05:42,917 And then, every now and then, 65 00:05:42,917 --> 00:05:44,750 he'd play some different music. 66 00:05:45,834 --> 00:05:48,709 ♪All that time ♪ 67 00:05:48,709 --> 00:05:51,500 ♪ Man, I've laid in my bed so long... ♪ 68 00:05:54,375 --> 00:05:56,625 You didn't hear that anywhere else. 69 00:05:56,625 --> 00:05:57,500 Except on this kiddie's program. 70 00:05:59,166 --> 00:06:01,667 And I thought, aw, man, 71 00:06:01,667 --> 00:06:02,667 this is just for me. 72 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,792 ♪ The landlady decided to call 73 00:06:12,792 --> 00:06:15,375 ♪ I was too evil to answer the phone ♪ 74 00:06:15,375 --> 00:06:18,083 I didn't even know that it was black music. 75 00:06:18,083 --> 00:06:20,959 I didn't know about black and white being different stuff. 76 00:06:21,709 --> 00:06:23,250 But something about it got me. 77 00:06:23,250 --> 00:06:26,750 Something stirred me. 78 00:06:26,750 --> 00:06:28,291 Without me even being aware of it. 79 00:06:28,291 --> 00:06:30,667 It took all the pain away. 80 00:06:33,375 --> 00:06:36,542 Well, obviously when I got to the age to buy records, 81 00:06:36,542 --> 00:06:38,166 I went and bought them. 82 00:07:02,583 --> 00:07:05,000 I could get the record player 83 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:06,125 down to the level that was right 84 00:07:06,125 --> 00:07:08,917 and play along 85 00:07:08,917 --> 00:07:09,583 to my heart's content. 86 00:07:11,041 --> 00:07:11,583 Non-stop. 87 00:07:38,083 --> 00:07:40,542 It was always one man 88 00:07:40,542 --> 00:07:41,625 with his guitar versus the world. 89 00:07:43,709 --> 00:07:46,125 He was completely alone and 90 00:07:46,125 --> 00:07:49,583 had no options other than to just sing and play 91 00:07:49,583 --> 00:07:51,291 to ease his pain. 92 00:07:51,291 --> 00:07:54,000 And that echoed what I felt. 93 00:07:56,709 --> 00:07:59,166 So, more and more and more and more, 94 00:07:59,166 --> 00:08:00,834 I wanted to be like that. 95 00:08:13,208 --> 00:08:15,542 I enrolled in Kingston School of Art 96 00:08:15,542 --> 00:08:17,375 when I was 15. 97 00:08:17,375 --> 00:08:20,583 And I was really gripped by the experience 98 00:08:20,583 --> 00:08:21,709 of getting involved in a life in the arts. 99 00:08:27,250 --> 00:08:28,834 I wanted to know about French literature. 100 00:08:28,834 --> 00:08:32,709 I wanted to know about French cinema, Japanese cinema. 101 00:08:33,291 --> 00:08:35,458 I read Baudelaire. 102 00:08:35,458 --> 00:08:36,834 I read Kerouac, 103 00:08:36,834 --> 00:08:37,750 Ginsberg and Steinbeck. 104 00:08:39,834 --> 00:08:43,458 But I was absolutely addicted to blues. 105 00:08:43,458 --> 00:08:44,875 Totally obsessed. 106 00:08:46,542 --> 00:08:48,583 I had a record collection. 107 00:08:48,583 --> 00:08:50,667 And I was skiving off a lot. 108 00:08:50,667 --> 00:08:53,208 Going to try and find imports in jazz record stores. 109 00:08:53,208 --> 00:08:56,166 Muddy Waters, B.B King, 110 00:08:56,166 --> 00:08:58,041 Chuck Berry and Bo Diddley. 111 00:08:58,041 --> 00:08:58,625 [Mojo Working playing] 112 00:09:06,041 --> 00:09:10,834 ♪ Got my mojo working but it just won't work on you ♪ 113 00:09:13,792 --> 00:09:18,500 ♪ Got my mojo working but it just won't work on you ♪ 114 00:09:21,041 --> 00:09:25,417 ♪ I wanna love you so bad till I don't know what to do ♪ 115 00:09:25,417 --> 00:09:27,709 There seemed to be 116 00:09:27,709 --> 00:09:29,834 nobody that I could talk to, 117 00:09:29,834 --> 00:09:31,375 would have any interest in this. 118 00:09:31,375 --> 00:09:34,208 You had to travel miles to find another person. 119 00:09:34,208 --> 00:09:36,250 We used to meet up at the Marquee Club 120 00:09:36,250 --> 00:09:38,125 up in Oxford Street. 121 00:09:38,125 --> 00:09:40,333 The blues night was a Thursday night. 122 00:09:40,333 --> 00:09:41,792 And you would meet like minds there and just dance. 123 00:09:43,875 --> 00:09:46,083 I met Mick and Keith and Brian over there. 124 00:09:46,083 --> 00:09:49,250 They were just part of this crew that would go there. 125 00:09:50,291 --> 00:09:51,875 ♪ Got my mojo working ♪ 126 00:09:53,750 --> 00:09:56,125 ♪ Got my mojo working ♪ 127 00:09:57,333 --> 00:09:59,750 ♪ Got my mojo working ♪ 128 00:10:01,333 --> 00:10:04,417 ♪ Got my mojo working... ♪ 129 00:10:04,417 --> 00:10:06,917 And so blues music led me to the friends 130 00:10:06,917 --> 00:10:08,291 that I was gonna have. 131 00:10:24,417 --> 00:10:26,625 In those days, there was very little interest 132 00:10:26,625 --> 00:10:28,333 in the blues. 133 00:10:28,333 --> 00:10:31,250 It wasn't popular music in this country at all. 134 00:10:33,208 --> 00:10:36,417 I was one of those snobby purist people. 135 00:10:36,417 --> 00:10:40,291 And I got very interested in a style of piano playing, 136 00:10:40,291 --> 00:10:44,000 played by Muddy Waters' pianist, Otis Spann. 137 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:47,625 I thought well, this music belongs in a band, really. 138 00:10:47,625 --> 00:10:49,792 So, I advertised in the Melody Maker. 139 00:10:49,792 --> 00:10:51,125 This bass player got in touch with me. 140 00:10:51,125 --> 00:10:54,375 Well, he said, "If only we could find a guitar player. 141 00:10:54,375 --> 00:10:57,125 "We could really start to get this music working together." 142 00:10:58,291 --> 00:10:58,875 [ Steppin' Out playing] 143 00:11:06,125 --> 00:11:08,250 We hired a room in a pub with a piano 144 00:11:08,250 --> 00:11:11,709 and this little fellow walked in the door with a guitar. 145 00:11:11,709 --> 00:11:13,542 He was about 17. 146 00:11:23,458 --> 00:11:26,291 It was instantly clear that he had a tremendous gift 147 00:11:26,291 --> 00:11:28,625 and had worked really hard to develop it. 148 00:11:30,166 --> 00:11:31,834 We couldn't believe how good he was. 149 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,709 It was a very small outfit with no equipment. 150 00:11:39,709 --> 00:11:40,709 We all went through one amplifier. 151 00:11:40,709 --> 00:11:42,834 Vocals, guitars and everything. 152 00:11:42,834 --> 00:11:45,375 We did more rehearsing than playing. 153 00:11:45,375 --> 00:11:47,917 But it was fun. 154 00:11:53,834 --> 00:11:57,083 Ben was the person I knew, 155 00:11:57,083 --> 00:12:00,542 from the minute I met him was a serious guy. 156 00:12:00,542 --> 00:12:02,250 And he was a great piano player. 157 00:12:03,542 --> 00:12:06,125 He was a deep inspiration for me. 158 00:12:06,125 --> 00:12:08,083 And a kind of father figure too. 159 00:12:09,375 --> 00:12:13,667 I thought Eric had an obsessive interest in music. 160 00:12:13,667 --> 00:12:17,291 I thought it was the very core of his being, really. 161 00:12:17,291 --> 00:12:20,291 He was very friendly but very private too. 162 00:12:20,291 --> 00:12:23,041 And he tended to form very close relationships 163 00:12:23,041 --> 00:12:26,709 with people suddenly, none of which ever lasted 164 00:12:26,709 --> 00:12:27,917 for any length of time. 165 00:12:28,667 --> 00:12:30,750 Anyway, Eric decided he was 166 00:12:30,750 --> 00:12:33,291 going to be a professional musician 167 00:12:33,291 --> 00:12:35,333 and so he had to make a career move. 168 00:12:36,041 --> 00:12:36,542 Ten, 169 00:12:36,542 --> 00:12:39,375 nine, eight... 170 00:12:39,375 --> 00:12:42,083 All right, take one now. When you're ready. 171 00:12:42,083 --> 00:12:44,583 Four, three, two... 172 00:12:55,583 --> 00:12:58,166 ♪ Early in the morning 'bout the break a day ♪ 173 00:13:00,417 --> 00:13:03,083 ♪ That's when my baby went away ♪ 174 00:13:05,583 --> 00:13:06,959 ♪ Cryin' and pleadin' won't do no good ♪ 175 00:13:10,583 --> 00:13:12,625 ♪Come back baby I wish you would... ♪ 176 00:13:15,709 --> 00:13:17,041 We had been working pretty regularly 177 00:13:17,041 --> 00:13:21,417 and we'd lost our lead guitar player. 178 00:13:21,417 --> 00:13:25,375 Eric was in the same college as we were. 179 00:13:25,375 --> 00:13:28,750 We were one of the few southern British blues bands. 180 00:13:28,750 --> 00:13:31,333 So he joined the band sort of, immediately. 181 00:13:33,834 --> 00:13:37,166 ♪ Staying out all night long ♪ 182 00:13:39,625 --> 00:13:41,792 We did a weekly gig on a Sunday night 183 00:13:41,792 --> 00:13:44,250 at a place called the Crawdaddy Club in Richmond. 184 00:13:44,250 --> 00:13:45,542 It was like a party. Everyone would get together 185 00:13:45,542 --> 00:13:49,083 and just go mad. 186 00:13:49,083 --> 00:13:51,250 And I developed a little following amongst these people 187 00:13:51,250 --> 00:13:53,375 and I knew that there were certain ways that I could 188 00:13:53,375 --> 00:13:54,792 get them going. 189 00:13:58,875 --> 00:14:00,875 ♪ Trying to love me and some other man, too ♪ 190 00:14:03,667 --> 00:14:05,917 He had his own group of followers that used to stand 191 00:14:05,917 --> 00:14:07,834 right in front of him on the stage. 192 00:14:07,834 --> 00:14:09,083 The Clapton clique. 193 00:14:09,917 --> 00:14:11,417 Usually everyone would 194 00:14:11,417 --> 00:14:14,375 go for the lead singer but it was different in our band. 195 00:14:14,375 --> 00:14:17,333 It spread and it became a fan base. 196 00:14:17,333 --> 00:14:19,792 [ I Wish You Would continues] 197 00:14:28,583 --> 00:14:29,917 ♪ Oh! ♪ 198 00:15:02,792 --> 00:15:04,542 It's great, you know, it's good fun. 199 00:15:04,542 --> 00:15:06,208 There's lots of people all comin' in, which is nice. 200 00:15:06,208 --> 00:15:07,792 And we're having a good time, you know, 201 00:15:07,792 --> 00:15:10,041 with Freddy and the Dreamers, 202 00:15:10,041 --> 00:15:13,750 and The Yardbirds and everybody. It's good. 203 00:15:13,750 --> 00:15:15,333 We were considered a good live act. 204 00:15:15,333 --> 00:15:18,834 We were asked to do The Beatles Christmas show. 205 00:15:18,834 --> 00:15:21,542 And we thought they were wankers. 206 00:15:21,542 --> 00:15:23,417 But I got on with George very well 207 00:15:23,417 --> 00:15:24,959 because he was a guitar player. 208 00:15:26,208 --> 00:15:29,917 We were both in bands 209 00:15:29,917 --> 00:15:33,542 and we did a Christmas season in the Hammersmith Odeon 210 00:15:33,542 --> 00:15:35,875 together and Eric was in The Yardbirds. 211 00:15:35,875 --> 00:15:37,542 And we met then. 212 00:15:44,417 --> 00:15:46,208 ♪ Can't do that ♪ 213 00:15:48,750 --> 00:15:50,500 So people that came to see Yardbirds 214 00:15:50,500 --> 00:15:51,667 were really into the music. 215 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:54,917 When The Beatles came on, 216 00:15:54,917 --> 00:15:57,333 they'd just start screaming so that you couldn't actually 217 00:15:57,333 --> 00:15:59,208 hear anything but the screaming. 218 00:16:01,667 --> 00:16:04,291 We would watch from the wings 219 00:16:04,291 --> 00:16:07,583 and I would see how pointless these guys thought it all was. 220 00:16:07,583 --> 00:16:10,208 Already. 221 00:16:13,041 --> 00:16:16,959 George was clearly an innovator. 222 00:16:16,959 --> 00:16:19,000 But the sad part was 223 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,583 that no one listened. 224 00:16:21,583 --> 00:16:24,000 And I thought The Yardbirds had real understanding 225 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,792 about what it was really all about. 226 00:16:26,792 --> 00:16:28,333 And it wasn't about being famous 227 00:16:28,333 --> 00:16:29,625 or getting on TV or having a hit. 228 00:16:43,917 --> 00:16:47,834 [ For Your Love playing] 229 00:16:52,834 --> 00:16:54,667 Jim, Keith and myself 230 00:16:54,667 --> 00:16:56,834 started to have many ideas about areas of music 231 00:16:56,834 --> 00:16:58,917 we wanted to pursue. 232 00:16:59,917 --> 00:17:01,041 And when the music publisher came along 233 00:17:01,041 --> 00:17:04,667 with the song For Your Love, 234 00:17:04,667 --> 00:17:06,625 it just felt absolutely right. 235 00:17:06,625 --> 00:17:09,125 ♪ I'd give you everything and more ♪ 236 00:17:09,125 --> 00:17:10,834 ♪ And that's for sure ♪ 237 00:17:10,834 --> 00:17:13,542 It was pop. 238 00:17:13,542 --> 00:17:16,250 All the material we were doing was blues music 239 00:17:16,250 --> 00:17:19,250 which hadn't even properly filtered through 240 00:17:19,250 --> 00:17:21,417 to the mainstream here. 241 00:17:21,417 --> 00:17:23,208 So we were pioneering something. 242 00:17:24,625 --> 00:17:25,959 I noticed they were deliberately 243 00:17:25,959 --> 00:17:28,583 growing Beatles haircuts. 244 00:17:28,583 --> 00:17:31,125 I thought we've sold out. I've sold out. 245 00:17:31,125 --> 00:17:32,750 I've gotta get out of here. 246 00:17:35,959 --> 00:17:37,583 Eric played on the studio sessions 247 00:17:37,583 --> 00:17:38,875 for For Your Love. 248 00:17:38,875 --> 00:17:41,542 And then immediately left. 249 00:17:41,542 --> 00:17:43,000 We had this massive record suddenly 250 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,375 and no lead guitar player. 251 00:17:51,333 --> 00:17:55,625 I was so disheartened by the music business, 252 00:17:55,625 --> 00:17:58,583 because it seemed to me that everywhere I looked 253 00:17:58,583 --> 00:18:01,208 everyone was on the make. 254 00:18:01,208 --> 00:18:03,542 I think I was probably a nasty piece of work 255 00:18:03,542 --> 00:18:06,250 to have around, you know, if you were tryin' to launch 256 00:18:06,250 --> 00:18:07,250 into the successful music world. 257 00:18:18,500 --> 00:18:21,417 Eric came to my house in Oxford. 258 00:18:21,417 --> 00:18:24,250 I was living on my own so, it was a one to one thing. 259 00:18:24,250 --> 00:18:25,417 And we just talked. 260 00:18:27,500 --> 00:18:29,583 I wanted his advice on what to do 261 00:18:29,583 --> 00:18:34,208 because I liked playing the guitar and I love blues music. 262 00:18:34,208 --> 00:18:36,333 But I thought I was gonna give up everything. 263 00:18:38,041 --> 00:18:40,000 And I stayed with him for about two weeks 264 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:41,667 and watched him carve. 265 00:18:44,250 --> 00:18:46,458 We both have pretty dysfunctional families. 266 00:18:46,458 --> 00:18:49,333 And we would sort of sit and talk about these things. 267 00:18:53,542 --> 00:18:57,125 And I thought his interest in his music was so obsessive 268 00:18:57,125 --> 00:18:58,959 that he didn't really have a choice about what he was 269 00:18:58,959 --> 00:19:00,291 doing with his time. 270 00:19:00,291 --> 00:19:03,291 He just had to go where it was best to go. 271 00:19:03,291 --> 00:19:05,875 I'm sure it's been with him all his life. 272 00:19:08,458 --> 00:19:10,959 And while I was there someone tracked me down. 273 00:19:10,959 --> 00:19:12,291 And it was John Mayall. 274 00:19:14,959 --> 00:19:17,458 [indistinct television chatter] 275 00:19:22,542 --> 00:19:24,875 Thanks, Bu. And before we run out of time, 276 00:19:24,875 --> 00:19:26,625 I think it's about time we learn to do 277 00:19:26,625 --> 00:19:27,917 the Crocodile Walk, 278 00:19:27,917 --> 00:19:30,500 with Johnny Mayall and the Bluesbreakers. 279 00:19:30,500 --> 00:19:32,542 ♪ See that crocodile walk ♪ 280 00:19:34,208 --> 00:19:36,417 ♪ Hey, and he lookin' my way ♪ 281 00:19:42,125 --> 00:19:44,125 ♪ Any minute today ♪ 282 00:19:47,166 --> 00:19:50,000 ♪He got a long way to walk ♪ 283 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:51,500 ♪ Lookin' for a home ♪ 284 00:19:57,792 --> 00:20:00,583 ♪Yeah, I wanna see you smile ♪ 285 00:20:01,667 --> 00:20:04,000 ♪ And, hey, hey, crocodile ♪ 286 00:20:13,542 --> 00:20:15,291 ♪ Yeah, crocodile now tell me ♪ 287 00:20:21,750 --> 00:20:23,750 ♪ He might settle down now, baby ♪ 288 00:20:26,375 --> 00:20:28,083 ♪Ooh, yeah ♪ 289 00:20:32,875 --> 00:20:34,542 ♪Hey, hey, crocodile ♪ 290 00:20:34,542 --> 00:20:38,250 When it came to blues there was nobody like him. 291 00:20:38,875 --> 00:20:40,542 Eric was that special. 292 00:20:40,542 --> 00:20:43,875 He knew the history of it. The background of it. 293 00:20:43,875 --> 00:20:46,583 And he had the emotional feel for it. 294 00:20:46,583 --> 00:20:48,834 And the technique to express it. 295 00:20:49,709 --> 00:20:51,750 He was given this freedom 296 00:20:51,750 --> 00:20:53,250 to let loose. 297 00:20:55,333 --> 00:20:57,458 ♪ Disappearing in the dark ♪ 298 00:21:02,291 --> 00:21:04,208 Eric, how much do you think that 299 00:21:04,208 --> 00:21:07,917 his influence helped blues based bands? 300 00:21:07,917 --> 00:21:09,750 If you're gonna take it back to the roots 301 00:21:09,750 --> 00:21:11,917 it's between him and Alexis Korner and they're the ones 302 00:21:11,917 --> 00:21:14,917 that started actually physically playing it. 303 00:21:14,917 --> 00:21:15,750 And there were lots of people 304 00:21:15,750 --> 00:21:17,417 that collected old blues records 305 00:21:17,417 --> 00:21:18,458 but that didn't play. 306 00:21:18,458 --> 00:21:21,875 But he worked in the clubs playing it. 307 00:21:21,875 --> 00:21:24,041 I mean, he's responsible for the whole thing, really. 308 00:21:27,291 --> 00:21:29,291 The minute I got into that band 309 00:21:29,291 --> 00:21:31,291 I joined a working schedule I'd never seen before. 310 00:21:31,291 --> 00:21:34,375 We worked seven nights a week. 311 00:21:34,375 --> 00:21:35,875 We played every night. 312 00:21:37,875 --> 00:21:39,875 The Twisted Wheel in Manchester. 313 00:21:39,875 --> 00:21:41,709 The Mojo in Sheffield. 314 00:21:41,709 --> 00:21:43,166 The Boathouse in Nottingham. 315 00:21:43,166 --> 00:21:45,166 The Club a'Gogo in Newcastle. 316 00:21:47,458 --> 00:21:51,333 I still had no idea how you talk to girls. 317 00:21:51,333 --> 00:21:52,667 I was very shy. 318 00:21:52,667 --> 00:21:56,375 And then suddenly I was dating, picking up girls. 319 00:21:56,375 --> 00:21:58,875 It was like a girl in every gig. 320 00:22:00,875 --> 00:22:03,125 Eric lived in Ripley 321 00:22:03,125 --> 00:22:04,375 and he didn't have transport. 322 00:22:04,375 --> 00:22:05,291 So it became a matter of convenience 323 00:22:05,291 --> 00:22:07,125 that he'd stay at our house. 324 00:22:07,125 --> 00:22:09,542 There was a spare room. 325 00:22:09,542 --> 00:22:11,375 So he moved in there. 326 00:22:13,625 --> 00:22:15,041 I had the family, you know, 327 00:22:15,041 --> 00:22:17,000 so he was living in the family house. 328 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,208 So it was very suburban. 329 00:22:19,208 --> 00:22:22,542 The regular life with the mum and dad and three children. 330 00:22:22,542 --> 00:22:24,250 At night we did the gigs. 331 00:22:25,583 --> 00:22:26,834 He was very cool. 332 00:22:26,834 --> 00:22:28,667 He had an incredible collection of records 333 00:22:28,667 --> 00:22:32,458 that I listened to all day long. For about a year, 334 00:22:32,458 --> 00:22:34,166 I just would put on records and play along with them. 335 00:22:34,166 --> 00:22:36,625 and I went at it. 336 00:22:40,500 --> 00:22:44,834 A lot of my influences around that time 337 00:22:44,834 --> 00:22:48,458 weren't just guitar players, they were other singers 338 00:22:49,208 --> 00:22:51,375 and also Indian music. 339 00:22:51,375 --> 00:22:55,500 I listened to Bismillah Khan a lot. 340 00:22:55,500 --> 00:22:58,041 I wanted my guitar to sound like his reed instrument. 341 00:23:28,583 --> 00:23:31,041 One of the biggest influences 342 00:23:31,041 --> 00:23:33,333 on what I wanted to achieve 343 00:23:33,333 --> 00:23:35,959 with a guitar was Little Walter. 344 00:23:35,959 --> 00:23:37,417 The sound he made with the harmonica, 345 00:23:37,417 --> 00:23:40,458 playing through an amplifier. 346 00:23:40,458 --> 00:23:42,792 And it was thick and fat. 347 00:23:42,792 --> 00:23:44,208 Very melodic. 348 00:23:46,625 --> 00:23:49,291 I had been wandering into music shops 349 00:23:49,291 --> 00:23:50,208 in the west end of London. 350 00:23:50,208 --> 00:23:53,166 And plugging a guitar in. 351 00:23:53,166 --> 00:23:54,583 I'd try that guitar with that amp. 352 00:23:54,583 --> 00:23:58,291 And I found this amp way out in West London 353 00:23:58,291 --> 00:24:00,417 and it was perfect. 354 00:24:00,417 --> 00:24:02,000 It was an absolutely perfect sound. 355 00:24:50,625 --> 00:24:54,000 He showed up with that guitar and that amp 356 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,667 and immediately people started to idolise what he was doing. 357 00:25:00,792 --> 00:25:03,917 And to certain extent that's what bugged him the most. 358 00:25:03,917 --> 00:25:07,291 He didn't want to be looked at and inspected. 359 00:25:07,291 --> 00:25:09,333 He just wanted to play the way he wanted to play 360 00:25:09,333 --> 00:25:11,542 and leave him alone. 361 00:25:11,542 --> 00:25:13,500 [ Steppin' Out continues] 362 00:25:20,500 --> 00:25:22,625 Now, from the time 363 00:25:22,625 --> 00:25:23,834 that you left The Yardbirds 364 00:25:23,834 --> 00:25:26,667 and joined up with John Mayall and company, 365 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,709 your head seemed to change tremendously as far as 366 00:25:30,709 --> 00:25:32,667 your music was concerned. 367 00:25:32,667 --> 00:25:33,959 What kind of things were happening to your head then? 368 00:25:33,959 --> 00:25:37,625 Well, I really didn't change as much as you probably think 369 00:25:37,625 --> 00:25:40,166 because it's not really, 370 00:25:40,166 --> 00:25:41,667 you know, an individual change. 371 00:25:41,667 --> 00:25:43,792 It was just put into a different context. 372 00:25:43,792 --> 00:25:44,667 So, I mean, the things that I was doing 373 00:25:44,667 --> 00:25:47,041 reflected differently, you know. 374 00:25:47,041 --> 00:25:48,333 I mean the... 375 00:25:48,333 --> 00:25:50,667 The context of The Yardbirds as opposed to John Mayall 376 00:25:50,667 --> 00:25:53,250 is totally different. One is pop and one is... 377 00:25:53,250 --> 00:25:56,375 Was then even more earthier blues than it is now. 378 00:25:56,375 --> 00:25:58,375 Stuff you played then. 379 00:25:58,375 --> 00:26:00,667 And you know, I just played the same things 380 00:26:00,667 --> 00:26:03,208 but they just sounded different. 381 00:26:04,291 --> 00:26:05,792 Take three. 382 00:26:15,583 --> 00:26:17,834 We had been on the road for long enough 383 00:26:17,834 --> 00:26:20,583 to go in and just play our set. 384 00:26:20,583 --> 00:26:22,250 But at that period there were technicians 385 00:26:22,250 --> 00:26:24,000 doing the recording 386 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,583 that just came up to your amp with a microphone, 387 00:26:27,583 --> 00:26:30,500 stuck it two inches away from the front of the amplifier. 388 00:26:31,875 --> 00:26:35,166 It seemed to me that if you wanted to get 389 00:26:35,166 --> 00:26:37,625 the atmosphere that we were getting in the clubs, 390 00:26:37,625 --> 00:26:40,375 you needed for it to sound like you were in the audience. 391 00:26:40,375 --> 00:26:43,542 Ten feet away. Not three inches. 392 00:26:46,041 --> 00:26:47,792 And so when the guy did that 393 00:26:47,792 --> 00:26:51,250 on that day that we went in to record, 394 00:26:51,250 --> 00:26:53,625 I said, "Excuse me, I don't want it there." 395 00:26:53,625 --> 00:26:55,500 "Put it over there." 396 00:26:55,500 --> 00:26:58,375 He said, " Well, you're making our job really difficult." 397 00:26:58,375 --> 00:27:02,709 And I said, "I don't care, that's the way I want it." 398 00:27:09,125 --> 00:27:12,750 With Eric playing at the sort of volume he was playing, 399 00:27:12,750 --> 00:27:14,625 there was no way that anyone could deal with it. 400 00:27:14,625 --> 00:27:16,667 They didn't know what to do. So we had to find a way 401 00:27:16,667 --> 00:27:18,792 to deal with it. 402 00:27:18,792 --> 00:27:21,917 That was the most exciting part of the project 403 00:27:21,917 --> 00:27:24,959 because when we found how to do it, we had the sound. 404 00:27:26,959 --> 00:27:27,792 [ All Your Love playing] 405 00:28:20,792 --> 00:28:24,792 That changed everything. 406 00:28:24,792 --> 00:28:27,500 Before Eric, guitar playing in England had been 407 00:28:27,500 --> 00:28:29,709 Hank Marvin and The Shadows. 408 00:28:29,709 --> 00:28:32,667 Very, very simple, not much technique. 409 00:28:34,458 --> 00:28:37,583 Suddenly we heard something that was completely different. 410 00:28:37,583 --> 00:28:40,583 The record sounded unlike anything that any of us 411 00:28:40,583 --> 00:28:42,875 had ever heard before, it was completely revolutionary. 412 00:28:49,291 --> 00:28:51,917 Eric, now that blues have started to emerge 413 00:28:51,917 --> 00:28:53,667 as a really very powerful force 414 00:28:53,667 --> 00:28:55,208 on the pop scene. 415 00:28:55,208 --> 00:28:57,000 And everyone's latching on to it even though 416 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,709 they don't necessarily understand the music. 417 00:28:58,709 --> 00:29:01,417 Now, do you think this is a bad thing? 418 00:29:01,417 --> 00:29:04,542 No, because, you see, what will happen is that 419 00:29:04,542 --> 00:29:06,542 after a long time, they will become 420 00:29:06,542 --> 00:29:09,041 so well educated musically 421 00:29:09,041 --> 00:29:12,500 that they'll be able to dig spades singing the blues 422 00:29:12,500 --> 00:29:15,709 instead of having to take watered down imitations. 423 00:29:15,709 --> 00:29:16,792 They won't have to accept that any more 424 00:29:16,792 --> 00:29:18,917 because they'll be free thinking enough 425 00:29:18,917 --> 00:29:21,917 to be able to look at a coloured man and dig it 426 00:29:21,917 --> 00:29:25,375 without having any hang ups. You know? 427 00:29:25,375 --> 00:29:27,125 And then, you know, 428 00:29:27,125 --> 00:29:28,583 all the white guys are gonna have to find 429 00:29:28,583 --> 00:29:29,583 something their own to play, that is good enough 430 00:29:29,583 --> 00:29:31,041 to stand up to it because 431 00:29:31,041 --> 00:29:34,583 they won't be accepted, they'll be rejected. 432 00:29:34,583 --> 00:29:35,500 There won't be any white blues bands, 433 00:29:35,500 --> 00:29:37,333 it couldn't happen. 434 00:29:38,417 --> 00:29:41,083 What is it you think about the music that draws 435 00:29:41,083 --> 00:29:42,333 young white kids to it? 436 00:29:42,333 --> 00:29:44,166 Now, you mentioned the fact that, uh, 437 00:29:44,166 --> 00:29:44,959 groups like The Rolling Stones 438 00:29:44,959 --> 00:29:46,917 have turned them on to the music. 439 00:29:46,917 --> 00:29:49,333 I think white kids really love a beautiful sound. 440 00:29:49,333 --> 00:29:51,709 That deep tone. 441 00:29:51,709 --> 00:29:53,583 Then even white kids sing the blues. 442 00:29:53,583 --> 00:29:56,291 They can play more blues than I can ever dream of playing. 443 00:29:56,291 --> 00:29:59,125 But you know, they'll never be able to vocal like me, 444 00:29:59,125 --> 00:30:00,208 you know that. 445 00:30:01,500 --> 00:30:02,875 And I'm singing that out to the church 446 00:30:02,875 --> 00:30:03,875 and got that big tone, I guess that's what 447 00:30:03,875 --> 00:30:07,041 the white kids come to see me for often. 448 00:30:07,041 --> 00:30:11,792 Does it have something to do with the feeling that... 449 00:30:11,792 --> 00:30:13,834 That's what I'm saying, that tone is the feeling, 450 00:30:13,834 --> 00:30:15,250 you got the feeling in there, for those kids. 451 00:30:15,250 --> 00:30:17,375 And there's no way you can counterfeit that? 452 00:30:17,375 --> 00:30:18,667 You can't counterfeit that. 453 00:30:18,667 --> 00:30:20,291 You mean, in other words... 454 00:30:20,291 --> 00:30:22,792 The young kids can learn to play a guitar that way 455 00:30:22,792 --> 00:30:24,000 but they can't learn to sing that way? 456 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,291 Like me? 457 00:30:25,291 --> 00:30:26,709 -Yeah. 458 00:30:26,709 --> 00:30:27,709 Oh, no. 459 00:30:27,709 --> 00:30:29,709 -You know better than that. 460 00:30:29,709 --> 00:30:32,291 They ain't got enough soul 461 00:30:32,291 --> 00:30:33,834 and they didn't have enough hard times. 462 00:30:37,333 --> 00:30:39,542 I came around to Jones' house one day 463 00:30:39,542 --> 00:30:40,500 and he'd been out in the garden reading 464 00:30:40,500 --> 00:30:43,417 The Melody Maker and he was furious. 465 00:30:43,417 --> 00:30:45,667 And he said, "Eric's rehearsing with a band 466 00:30:45,667 --> 00:30:48,166 "in some church." 467 00:30:48,166 --> 00:30:50,333 And I said, "Oh, is he?" 468 00:30:50,333 --> 00:30:52,208 All of a sudden, there it was. 469 00:30:52,208 --> 00:30:54,625 There was this new group that's gonna be 470 00:30:54,625 --> 00:30:56,667 making its debut somewhere and that was it. 471 00:30:56,667 --> 00:30:58,875 It was very sudden. 472 00:30:59,625 --> 00:31:01,291 Total lunatic. 473 00:31:01,291 --> 00:31:02,792 Just said he's gonna quit. 474 00:31:03,709 --> 00:31:05,125 [I Feel Free playing] 475 00:31:10,208 --> 00:31:11,625 ♪ I feel free ♪ 476 00:31:12,625 --> 00:31:13,125 ♪ I feel free ♪ 477 00:31:18,375 --> 00:31:21,041 I wanted to be a blues trio. 478 00:31:21,041 --> 00:31:22,125 Fusing jazz and rock. 479 00:31:24,083 --> 00:31:25,208 It was just a thing where 480 00:31:25,208 --> 00:31:28,417 the three of us liked one another's playing 481 00:31:28,417 --> 00:31:30,291 and we decided to do it. 482 00:31:30,291 --> 00:31:31,375 ♪ I feel free ♪ 483 00:31:32,417 --> 00:31:33,625 ♪ I feel free ♪ 484 00:31:36,083 --> 00:31:40,166 ♪ Feel when I dance with you ♪ 485 00:31:41,208 --> 00:31:44,166 ♪ We move like the sea ♪ 486 00:31:46,375 --> 00:31:50,125 ♪ You, you're all I want to know ♪ 487 00:31:51,834 --> 00:31:56,166 ♪ I feel free ♪ 488 00:31:57,291 --> 00:32:01,417 ♪ I feel free ♪ 489 00:32:02,583 --> 00:32:07,750 ♪ I feel free ♪ 490 00:32:07,750 --> 00:32:10,750 ♪ I can walk down the street there's no one there ♪ 491 00:32:10,750 --> 00:32:13,083 ♪ Though the pavements are one huge crowd ♪ 492 00:32:13,083 --> 00:32:15,208 ♪ I can drive down the road my eyes don't see ♪ 493 00:32:15,208 --> 00:32:18,041 ♪ Though my mind wants to cry out loud ♪ 494 00:32:19,333 --> 00:32:23,208 ♪ I ♪ 495 00:32:24,583 --> 00:32:28,125 ♪ I ♪ 496 00:32:28,542 --> 00:32:33,875 ♪ I ♪ 497 00:32:34,917 --> 00:32:39,083 ♪ I feel free ♪ 498 00:32:40,417 --> 00:32:44,709 ♪ I feel free ♪ 499 00:32:45,583 --> 00:32:49,583 ♪ I feel free ♪ 500 00:33:32,333 --> 00:33:34,417 The first time I saw Jimi, I think 501 00:33:34,417 --> 00:33:37,083 it was a gig we did in London 502 00:33:37,083 --> 00:33:40,500 and I saw him a couple of times at the speak easy. 503 00:33:40,500 --> 00:33:44,667 He used to come around to the flat a lot and stay there. 504 00:33:44,667 --> 00:33:46,333 We had a great time really. 505 00:33:46,333 --> 00:33:50,375 He was so shy, and quiet, withdrawn and gentle. 506 00:33:52,166 --> 00:33:56,000 We talk about every day kind of ambitions, you know? 507 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:57,834 And the way we want the world to be 508 00:33:57,834 --> 00:34:00,041 but the conversation never stayed that way for very long. 509 00:34:00,041 --> 00:34:04,041 'Cause Jimi had such a surreal mind. 510 00:34:04,041 --> 00:34:07,166 Once you start going talking about anything. 511 00:34:07,166 --> 00:34:09,792 You'd end up talking about flying saucers, you know? 512 00:34:09,792 --> 00:34:11,709 Sort of purple velvet moons. 513 00:34:11,709 --> 00:34:13,000 It's like. 514 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,875 And you couldn't keep him on the ground for any length 515 00:34:15,875 --> 00:34:16,959 of time. 516 00:35:01,709 --> 00:35:04,917 Eric came to my house in Oxford with Ginger 517 00:35:04,917 --> 00:35:08,125 and said he was forming Cream 518 00:35:08,125 --> 00:35:11,291 and would I like to go and work for them. 519 00:35:11,291 --> 00:35:14,333 I think he wanted somebody around who he knew. 520 00:35:16,125 --> 00:35:19,458 He was enjoying the new fruits of success hugely 521 00:35:19,458 --> 00:35:23,000 and the psychedelic musical venture that was happening. 522 00:35:25,792 --> 00:35:28,375 Eric and Cream came to New York 523 00:35:28,375 --> 00:35:32,834 and they came to record in our studio. 524 00:35:33,917 --> 00:35:38,458 They played songs that are not absolutely 525 00:35:38,458 --> 00:35:42,375 in a 12 or eight bar form but have a blues feel. 526 00:35:43,792 --> 00:35:46,083 It's a new music. 527 00:35:46,083 --> 00:35:49,709 Especially when Eric played the guitar. 528 00:35:49,709 --> 00:35:51,333 [ Hey Joe playing] 529 00:35:53,166 --> 00:35:55,458 When I walked into my studio, 530 00:35:55,458 --> 00:35:57,959 I had a bunch of English roadies setting up 531 00:35:57,959 --> 00:36:00,083 double stacks of Marshalls 532 00:36:00,083 --> 00:36:03,625 and double bass drums and double cymbal stands 533 00:36:03,625 --> 00:36:05,125 and so I just looked and I thought, 534 00:36:05,125 --> 00:36:06,417 "What, have I got two of everything?" 535 00:36:06,417 --> 00:36:08,041 I couldn't believe what I was looking at, 536 00:36:08,041 --> 00:36:09,250 it was just three men. 537 00:36:18,375 --> 00:36:20,083 [Strange Brew playing] 538 00:36:35,792 --> 00:36:39,333 ♪ Strange brew ♪ 539 00:36:39,333 --> 00:36:41,417 ♪ Kill what's inside of you ♪ 540 00:36:45,166 --> 00:36:49,625 ♪ She's a witch of trouble in electric blue ♪ 541 00:36:49,625 --> 00:36:54,333 ♪ In her own mad mind she's in love with you ♪ 542 00:36:54,333 --> 00:36:56,083 ♪ With you ♪ 543 00:36:57,291 --> 00:36:59,959 ♪ Now what you gonna do? ♪ 544 00:37:03,542 --> 00:37:08,542 ♪ Strange brew kill what's inside of you ♪ 545 00:38:33,250 --> 00:38:36,125 We were recording in Atlantic Studios. 546 00:38:36,125 --> 00:38:39,125 We're sharing that workspace with Ray Charles, 547 00:38:39,125 --> 00:38:41,250 Aretha Franklin, Otis Redding 548 00:38:41,250 --> 00:38:46,083 and Wilson Pickett, so we were in their play room. 549 00:38:46,083 --> 00:38:49,458 A lot of the time, we were going out as Otis Redding 550 00:38:49,458 --> 00:38:51,792 was coming in or Aretha Franklin 551 00:38:51,792 --> 00:38:53,959 was coming, the sessions that would overlap. 552 00:38:53,959 --> 00:38:55,750 And one day Ahmet said, 553 00:38:55,750 --> 00:38:56,834 "What would you like to play?" 554 00:38:56,834 --> 00:39:00,417 And I said, "Oof, would I" 555 00:39:02,041 --> 00:39:03,875 -Okay. -Standby. 556 00:39:03,875 --> 00:39:05,959 I looked in and there was Joe South, 557 00:39:05,959 --> 00:39:07,125 Bobby Hinton, Bobby Womack. 558 00:39:07,125 --> 00:39:10,834 There were like five guitar players on the floor 559 00:39:10,834 --> 00:39:13,125 and Aretha on piano, singing. 560 00:39:14,625 --> 00:39:17,166 And I went in there with my permed hair 561 00:39:17,166 --> 00:39:19,709 and pink trousers, high-heeled boots. 562 00:39:19,709 --> 00:39:22,083 Looking like a freak from Mars 563 00:39:22,083 --> 00:39:24,208 and they looked at me like, "What's this?" 564 00:39:24,208 --> 00:39:27,208 And I sat down and played. 565 00:39:27,208 --> 00:39:30,458 ♪ If you had a dollar ♪ 566 00:39:34,375 --> 00:39:36,792 ♪ And I had a dime ♪ 567 00:39:40,542 --> 00:39:43,709 ♪ I wonder could I borrow yours? ♪ 568 00:39:45,375 --> 00:39:49,417 ♪ As easy as you could mine ♪ 569 00:39:52,667 --> 00:39:56,333 ♪ Because when you need my love ♪ 570 00:39:58,500 --> 00:40:02,000 ♪ And I gave time after time ♪ 571 00:40:04,458 --> 00:40:09,041 ♪ And turn around to find me no returns ♪ 572 00:40:09,041 --> 00:40:15,250 ♪ Then, my friend you've used my dimes ♪ 573 00:40:15,250 --> 00:40:17,667 Aretha Franklin started laughing when 574 00:40:17,667 --> 00:40:19,500 she saw Eric because he was wearing 575 00:40:19,500 --> 00:40:23,166 psychedelic costume. 576 00:40:23,166 --> 00:40:25,417 But when Eric played the guitar, 577 00:40:25,417 --> 00:40:27,417 Aretha stopped laughing 578 00:40:27,417 --> 00:40:29,375 because it was the real thing. 579 00:40:29,375 --> 00:40:32,417 ♪ Your heart to do for me ♪ 580 00:40:32,417 --> 00:40:37,417 ♪ Then, baby, just don't darken my front door ♪ 581 00:40:38,375 --> 00:40:40,166 ♪ Baby ♪ 582 00:40:41,917 --> 00:40:46,667 ♪ I want you to be as good to me as I am to you ♪ 583 00:40:51,875 --> 00:40:53,583 ♪ Baby ♪ 584 00:40:53,583 --> 00:40:56,083 Man, that was it, I thought if that comes out. 585 00:40:56,083 --> 00:40:57,959 I don't have to do anything again. 586 00:41:00,583 --> 00:41:03,667 ♪ Listen, don't you walk around here ♪ 587 00:41:05,875 --> 00:41:09,834 ♪ Feeling like you can treat me any ol' way ♪ 588 00:41:18,500 --> 00:41:20,792 I had just arrived from Paris to be a model. 589 00:41:21,917 --> 00:41:24,041 When I met Eric, I didn't know 590 00:41:24,041 --> 00:41:24,917 who he was at all. 591 00:41:26,542 --> 00:41:29,875 He was a bit shy, he was a bit inhibited at first. 592 00:41:31,291 --> 00:41:34,250 But then we started going out together. 593 00:41:34,250 --> 00:41:36,792 And we pretty much moved in together 594 00:41:36,792 --> 00:41:37,667 very quickly. 595 00:41:41,291 --> 00:41:44,041 Charlotte was very funny 596 00:41:44,041 --> 00:41:45,917 and very, very open minded. 597 00:41:46,792 --> 00:41:48,917 We had a friendship. 598 00:41:48,917 --> 00:41:51,250 We just were comfortable together. 599 00:41:52,291 --> 00:41:56,667 She saw who I was 600 00:41:56,667 --> 00:41:58,166 for better or worse. 601 00:42:00,583 --> 00:42:02,333 I just started feeling like 602 00:42:02,333 --> 00:42:03,667 Alice in Wonderland. 603 00:42:03,667 --> 00:42:07,250 I was totally into the Beatles. 604 00:42:07,250 --> 00:42:09,792 The next minute, we were invited 605 00:42:09,792 --> 00:42:15,208 to take part of this special event by the Beatles. 606 00:42:15,208 --> 00:42:18,750 It was like, "Okay." You know, 607 00:42:18,750 --> 00:42:19,709 normal. 608 00:42:19,709 --> 00:42:20,834 ♪ Learn how to play the game ♪ 609 00:42:22,333 --> 00:42:23,709 ♪ It's easy ♪ 610 00:42:26,959 --> 00:42:30,375 ♪ Nothing you can make that can't be made ♪ 611 00:42:30,375 --> 00:42:32,250 When I moved into the Kings Road. 612 00:42:32,250 --> 00:42:35,125 George would drop by on his route home 613 00:42:35,125 --> 00:42:36,375 out to Esher. 614 00:42:38,458 --> 00:42:40,333 And I've been going to Esher a few times 615 00:42:40,333 --> 00:42:44,417 taking acid together, bit by bit, we were becoming friends. 616 00:42:44,417 --> 00:42:46,917 ♪ All you need is love ♪ 617 00:42:48,291 --> 00:42:50,834 ♪ All you need is love ♪ 618 00:42:53,875 --> 00:42:57,458 ♪ All you need is love, love ♪ 619 00:42:58,458 --> 00:43:00,417 ♪ Love is all you need ♪ 620 00:44:09,125 --> 00:44:12,125 The audience there was so much more advanced. 621 00:44:12,125 --> 00:44:17,667 Cream very quickly realized, they could just open up. 622 00:44:17,667 --> 00:44:20,959 I mean they would play the same number for 40 minutes. 623 00:44:22,250 --> 00:44:24,375 Improvisation every night. 624 00:45:15,166 --> 00:45:17,875 And the audience couldn't have enough of it. 625 00:45:17,875 --> 00:45:21,834 It was exactly what they had wanted to hear 626 00:45:21,834 --> 00:45:23,542 and it had suddenly arrived. 627 00:46:19,834 --> 00:46:21,542 [Crossroads playing] 628 00:46:40,125 --> 00:46:43,083 ♪ I went down to the crossroads ♪ 629 00:46:43,083 --> 00:46:45,125 ♪ Fell down on my knees ♪ 630 00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:52,667 ♪ Down to the crossroads fell down on my knees ♪ 631 00:46:55,709 --> 00:46:56,792 ♪ Asked the Lord above for mercy ♪ 632 00:46:56,792 --> 00:46:59,583 ♪ Save me if you please ♪ 633 00:47:02,583 --> 00:47:05,458 ♪ I went down to the crossroads ♪ 634 00:47:05,458 --> 00:47:07,500 ♪ Tried to flag a ride ♪ 635 00:47:09,041 --> 00:47:14,250 ♪ Down to the crossroads tried to flag a ride ♪ 636 00:47:16,250 --> 00:47:21,208 ♪ Nobody seemed to know me everybody passed me by ♪ 637 00:47:24,583 --> 00:47:25,834 Many of these young players 638 00:47:25,834 --> 00:47:27,250 coming along today 639 00:47:27,250 --> 00:47:30,583 have been really turned on by the way you play the guitar. 640 00:47:30,583 --> 00:47:33,959 I'm grateful some of them seem to like me. 641 00:47:33,959 --> 00:47:36,417 I'm grateful because 642 00:47:36,417 --> 00:47:40,166 to me, it seemed to open a few doors for us 643 00:47:40,166 --> 00:47:44,041 that seemed like that was never gonna be open. 644 00:47:46,667 --> 00:47:50,458 Because until the days of rock 'n' roll a lot of times, 645 00:47:50,458 --> 00:47:52,792 a lot of the places, we... They just wouldn't accept us. 646 00:47:52,792 --> 00:47:56,834 I'm not speaking racially, 647 00:47:56,834 --> 00:47:58,375 I'm just talking about the people at home 648 00:47:58,375 --> 00:48:00,667 that just wouldn't accept us in some of the places that... 649 00:48:00,667 --> 00:48:03,041 The door's open now, that you can go into. 650 00:48:03,041 --> 00:48:05,667 [Crossroads continues] 651 00:48:05,667 --> 00:48:08,500 B.B King played the joints for years. 652 00:48:08,500 --> 00:48:11,291 Otis Redding was a black R&B singer 653 00:48:11,291 --> 00:48:13,583 who played the southern route. 654 00:48:13,583 --> 00:48:16,250 And what rock n' roll or the popularity 655 00:48:16,250 --> 00:48:17,583 of rock n' roll has afforded us 656 00:48:17,583 --> 00:48:19,750 is the opportunity to use 657 00:48:19,750 --> 00:48:21,875 good rock n' roll as bait to bring 658 00:48:21,875 --> 00:48:24,041 the people in, but once they got it, present them with 659 00:48:24,709 --> 00:48:25,792 uh... 660 00:48:25,792 --> 00:48:28,667 some of the people who, were it not for them, 661 00:48:28,667 --> 00:48:29,083 there wouldn't be any rock n' roll. 662 00:48:32,083 --> 00:48:35,208 I was playing in New York City 663 00:48:35,208 --> 00:48:37,709 and I've been hearing about this young guitarist, 664 00:48:37,709 --> 00:48:40,166 the Cream and so on. 665 00:48:40,792 --> 00:48:43,750 I met this young man. 666 00:48:43,750 --> 00:48:48,375 Long hair and very quiet like. 667 00:48:48,375 --> 00:48:50,000 We had a jam session. 668 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,083 Eric seemed to take time, it's like putting pieces 669 00:48:55,083 --> 00:48:56,458 in a puzzle. 670 00:48:56,458 --> 00:48:58,959 Like an old seasoned guy. 671 00:49:00,083 --> 00:49:02,583 It could sound good, but if you gonna play 672 00:49:02,583 --> 00:49:05,500 more than two or three notes, you need to have 673 00:49:05,500 --> 00:49:07,709 a story to tell. 674 00:49:07,709 --> 00:49:09,959 And he told me some very good ones. 675 00:49:11,208 --> 00:49:15,500 White America had never paid attention to blues. 676 00:49:15,500 --> 00:49:18,250 So thanks to Eric, really, it awakened. 677 00:49:19,041 --> 00:49:20,875 Started them listening. 678 00:49:20,875 --> 00:49:23,458 Now a lot of doors were opened for B.B. King 679 00:49:23,458 --> 00:49:25,458 and many other people like myself. 680 00:49:25,458 --> 00:49:26,166 [Crossroads continues] 681 00:49:33,375 --> 00:49:36,667 They did like 300 shows a year. 682 00:49:36,667 --> 00:49:39,125 And had a huge, huge following 683 00:49:39,125 --> 00:49:43,000 based on their live performances. 684 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,959 So at that time, Cream got to be 685 00:49:45,959 --> 00:49:48,291 the biggest band in the world. 686 00:49:48,291 --> 00:49:50,667 Much bigger than the Rolling Stones 687 00:49:50,667 --> 00:49:52,000 and the Beatles. 688 00:50:03,250 --> 00:50:04,875 Eric Clapton, please. 689 00:50:08,500 --> 00:50:09,792 When you're improvising, 690 00:50:09,792 --> 00:50:10,959 do you use stock phrases? 691 00:50:10,959 --> 00:50:13,083 Um, yeah, there are always phrases 692 00:50:13,083 --> 00:50:15,750 that I always play that are stock phrases 693 00:50:15,750 --> 00:50:17,041 that I work from you know, 694 00:50:17,041 --> 00:50:18,291 which are just like... 695 00:50:24,166 --> 00:50:26,000 All these runs. 696 00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,750 You know, I've put together from old phrases 697 00:50:28,750 --> 00:50:30,625 that I've first started on like... 698 00:50:34,542 --> 00:50:36,959 And then they're just kind of messed up 699 00:50:36,959 --> 00:50:38,542 with other things which I've learned like... 700 00:50:43,166 --> 00:50:45,000 If a guy likes playing football, 701 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:46,834 then that's what he'll use to get... 702 00:50:46,834 --> 00:50:49,125 To get all of his, kind of, basic... 703 00:50:49,125 --> 00:50:52,166 Kind of, angry bits out of him, 704 00:50:52,166 --> 00:50:54,166 you know, that you build up through any day. 705 00:50:54,166 --> 00:50:56,208 You can just, someone is tooting the horn 706 00:50:56,208 --> 00:50:57,208 in the car behind you and you'll get angry 707 00:50:57,208 --> 00:50:59,834 and you have no release for it, you know? 708 00:50:59,834 --> 00:51:02,583 Well, that happens to everybody, 709 00:51:02,583 --> 00:51:04,208 but you know, I've got the advantage of being 710 00:51:04,208 --> 00:51:05,917 able to sort of play that out 711 00:51:06,375 --> 00:51:07,959 on the guitar. 712 00:51:07,959 --> 00:51:10,291 By being sort of, um, 713 00:51:10,291 --> 00:51:12,333 fairly aggressive in the way I'm playing, 714 00:51:12,333 --> 00:51:13,542 not the way I use it. 715 00:51:13,542 --> 00:51:15,625 That can be done too with people like The Who. 716 00:51:15,625 --> 00:51:17,875 Can you show us? 717 00:51:17,875 --> 00:51:19,625 What you mean, you want me to break the guitar up? 718 00:51:19,625 --> 00:51:20,667 Well, no, not quite, just an example 719 00:51:20,667 --> 00:51:22,875 -of aggression in your music. -Yeah, right. 720 00:51:54,250 --> 00:51:56,875 Eric wasn't the best communicator. 721 00:51:56,875 --> 00:51:59,417 There was a lot of unsaid things, you know, 722 00:51:59,417 --> 00:52:01,750 about where he was at. 723 00:52:01,750 --> 00:52:04,417 He enjoyed part of it very much. 724 00:52:04,417 --> 00:52:07,166 There was an aspect of being adored. 725 00:52:08,083 --> 00:52:12,083 But it was difficult to keep up. 726 00:52:12,083 --> 00:52:14,291 And to be on tour for months and months. 727 00:52:22,750 --> 00:52:26,166 There was constant, serious dispute 728 00:52:26,166 --> 00:52:30,291 between Jack and Ginger every day. 729 00:52:30,291 --> 00:52:31,625 It didn't matter to them what they were arguing about 730 00:52:31,625 --> 00:52:33,625 really. 731 00:52:33,625 --> 00:52:37,000 It was just, they were at each other's throats 732 00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:38,834 and it was very intense. 733 00:52:41,291 --> 00:52:42,959 We shut one another out, I mean I would just run away 734 00:52:42,959 --> 00:52:46,041 from him, we never socialized. 735 00:52:46,041 --> 00:52:49,291 We never really shared ideas any more, we just got 736 00:52:49,291 --> 00:52:51,333 together on stage and played and then went our 737 00:52:51,333 --> 00:52:51,458 different ways. 738 00:52:53,291 --> 00:52:55,875 The whole thing was awful. 739 00:53:44,375 --> 00:53:46,125 Eric was picking up his guitar at home. 740 00:53:46,125 --> 00:53:49,250 and twanging on it non-stop. 741 00:53:50,333 --> 00:53:52,333 Which is not always the easiest thing 742 00:53:52,333 --> 00:53:53,000 when you're trying to have a conversation 743 00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:54,875 with somebody. 744 00:53:56,500 --> 00:54:02,041 I remember finding myself talking and I would get 745 00:54:02,041 --> 00:54:04,000 a riff from the guitar back, 746 00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:05,542 rather than proper communication. 747 00:54:12,875 --> 00:54:16,667 It was very hard to keep up on an emotional, personal level. 748 00:54:19,208 --> 00:54:21,959 You know, I'm in love with Eric. 749 00:54:21,959 --> 00:54:23,625 And then the world's in love with him. 750 00:54:24,834 --> 00:54:27,000 We just didn't talk about feelings. 751 00:54:28,041 --> 00:54:30,250 Eric just wouldn't go there. 752 00:54:33,250 --> 00:54:36,458 I always felt he was running away from something. 753 00:54:42,417 --> 00:54:44,792 He started going to George and Pattie's quite a lot 754 00:54:44,792 --> 00:54:46,333 when they lived in Surrey. 755 00:54:47,375 --> 00:54:49,250 When Cream broke up, I think spiritually, 756 00:54:49,250 --> 00:54:51,083 he was really rather bereft. 757 00:54:51,083 --> 00:54:54,125 And he enjoyed hanging out and played guitar and started 758 00:54:54,125 --> 00:54:55,458 writing all day. 759 00:54:57,083 --> 00:54:59,291 Yes? 760 00:54:59,291 --> 00:55:00,375 Start again. 761 00:55:00,375 --> 00:55:01,417 Okay. 762 00:55:01,417 --> 00:55:02,959 George said, "I'm going to do this song, 763 00:55:02,959 --> 00:55:04,250 "I want you to play the guitar." 764 00:55:05,208 --> 00:55:06,917 How we doing, Hal? 765 00:55:06,917 --> 00:55:08,291 We did maybe two or three takes, 766 00:55:08,291 --> 00:55:10,625 and there was a very few 767 00:55:10,625 --> 00:55:12,458 attempts at the song. 768 00:55:12,458 --> 00:55:13,625 Yes? 769 00:55:13,625 --> 00:55:14,959 Just start again. 770 00:55:14,959 --> 00:55:17,625 They were fast and furious, they were harsh judges. 771 00:55:20,542 --> 00:55:22,333 [While My Guitar Gently Weeps playing] 772 00:55:36,458 --> 00:55:42,667 ♪ I look at you all see the love ♪ 773 00:55:42,667 --> 00:55:44,959 ♪ There that's sleeping ♪ 774 00:55:46,834 --> 00:55:50,583 ♪ While my guitar gently weeps ♪ 775 00:55:53,500 --> 00:55:59,375 ♪ I look at the floor and I see ♪ 776 00:55:59,375 --> 00:56:01,959 ♪ It needs sweeping ♪ 777 00:56:02,834 --> 00:56:08,250 ♪ Still my guitar gently weeps ♪ 778 00:56:44,291 --> 00:56:45,875 It was just one policeman. 779 00:56:45,875 --> 00:56:48,500 His name was Inspector Pilcher. 780 00:56:48,500 --> 00:56:50,333 He wanted to bust all of the people 781 00:56:50,333 --> 00:56:52,709 that were in the pop business for drugs. 782 00:56:52,709 --> 00:56:54,542 He ended up getting done for corruption. 783 00:56:57,083 --> 00:56:58,667 He busted George 784 00:56:58,667 --> 00:57:01,417 and the word was, he had planted dope. 785 00:57:03,333 --> 00:57:05,500 Ginger knew someone in the police force, 786 00:57:05,500 --> 00:57:08,166 who said I was on Pilcher's list. 787 00:57:09,750 --> 00:57:11,458 That night, the Pheasantry got raided 788 00:57:11,458 --> 00:57:14,500 and they planted hash everywhere. 789 00:57:15,709 --> 00:57:19,750 So I thought, well, I better get out of town. 790 00:57:19,750 --> 00:57:24,500 ♪ See the love there that's sleeping ♪ 791 00:57:26,500 --> 00:57:29,542 ♪ While my guitar gently weeps ♪ 792 00:57:33,917 --> 00:57:36,458 It's the first time I spent any money really, 793 00:57:36,458 --> 00:57:38,667 any of the money that I made with Cream. 794 00:57:38,667 --> 00:57:41,000 I never owned anything before. 795 00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:44,125 I mean, I'd been bumming around all my life 796 00:57:44,125 --> 00:57:46,917 from the day that I first left Ripley. 797 00:57:49,792 --> 00:57:51,542 I just fell in love with it. 798 00:57:51,542 --> 00:57:53,875 I had the most incredible feeling of coming home. 799 00:57:58,834 --> 00:58:01,834 Now, Eric had a house in Newhurst 800 00:58:01,834 --> 00:58:02,834 which is just beyond Esher. 801 00:58:02,834 --> 00:58:04,500 So it's quite easy for the two of them 802 00:58:04,500 --> 00:58:07,041 to go to each other's houses. 803 00:58:07,041 --> 00:58:11,000 And it was just like a really nice friendship 804 00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:12,625 going on. 805 00:58:12,625 --> 00:58:16,875 George had a lot of respect for Eric's guitar playing. 806 00:58:16,875 --> 00:58:19,125 It was just four friends. 807 00:58:19,125 --> 00:58:20,083 We'd hang out together 808 00:58:20,083 --> 00:58:23,375 and we'd go to the restaurants and bars. 809 00:58:23,375 --> 00:58:25,750 He used to come over to the house quite a lot. 810 00:58:26,834 --> 00:58:27,792 Not always to see George. 811 00:58:31,166 --> 00:58:33,291 I think as time went on. 812 00:58:33,291 --> 00:58:36,417 You know how some people have that stare that's longer 813 00:58:36,417 --> 00:58:38,417 than it should be? 814 00:58:38,417 --> 00:58:40,208 And I caught a couple of those. 815 00:58:46,834 --> 00:58:47,750 I knew it was wrong. 816 00:58:50,417 --> 00:58:52,333 George was my best friend. 817 00:58:54,625 --> 00:58:59,083 But I felt a compulsion towards her. 818 00:58:59,083 --> 00:59:02,500 That she was probably the most desirable woman 819 00:59:02,500 --> 00:59:02,625 I had ever met. 820 00:59:05,542 --> 00:59:07,458 And even though, they were married, 821 00:59:07,458 --> 00:59:07,875 I wanted her. 822 00:59:10,458 --> 00:59:12,000 Even though she was unavailable 823 00:59:13,291 --> 00:59:15,125 and that frightened me. 824 00:59:19,750 --> 00:59:22,417 I felt there was a big confusion in his head 825 00:59:22,417 --> 00:59:23,583 about women. 826 00:59:23,583 --> 00:59:25,625 And what they represented to him. 827 00:59:27,208 --> 00:59:29,667 It was so intense and he was so intense. 828 01:00:05,583 --> 01:00:08,917 When I was nine, my grandmother said to me. 829 01:00:08,917 --> 01:00:11,625 This lady's coming and she's your real mum 830 01:00:11,625 --> 01:00:13,291 and we're gonna go and meet her 831 01:00:13,291 --> 01:00:13,750 and she's gonna stay for a little while. 832 01:00:16,750 --> 01:00:20,291 She arrived by boat and we went to meet her 833 01:00:20,291 --> 01:00:21,834 at Southampton. 834 01:00:21,834 --> 01:00:22,792 She was on one of those big liners. 835 01:00:24,834 --> 01:00:26,792 She came with two kids. 836 01:00:29,166 --> 01:00:31,208 Eric was very quiet that day. 837 01:00:31,208 --> 01:00:33,417 He's very shy. 838 01:00:34,792 --> 01:00:37,000 He wanted to see his real mum. 839 01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:41,458 And I think Rick was looking for love. 840 01:00:44,375 --> 01:00:46,125 We got back to Ripley 841 01:00:46,125 --> 01:00:48,625 and then when everyone came down to get a cup of tea 842 01:00:48,625 --> 01:00:50,291 or whatever. 843 01:00:50,291 --> 01:00:52,834 I wanted to know the most important thing. 844 01:00:55,125 --> 01:00:57,875 "You're my mum, are you gonna be my mum?" 845 01:01:00,834 --> 01:01:02,417 And she said, 846 01:01:02,417 --> 01:01:04,208 "No. 847 01:01:04,208 --> 01:01:05,875 "I think it's best we leave it the way it is." 848 01:01:11,166 --> 01:01:12,875 It was so cruel. 849 01:01:12,875 --> 01:01:15,333 She didn't like the fact he called her, "mum." 850 01:01:17,083 --> 01:01:21,125 I couldn't believe anybody could be so nasty. 851 01:01:23,834 --> 01:01:26,792 She brought her other son, Bryan 852 01:01:26,792 --> 01:01:29,041 and he said to 'Ric, "Are you my brother?" 853 01:01:29,041 --> 01:01:31,792 And she heard that, and she said, "No, he's not 854 01:01:31,792 --> 01:01:33,667 "your brother." 855 01:01:33,667 --> 01:01:36,000 I couldn't believe it, she could say things like that 856 01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:36,834 to a child. 857 01:01:42,375 --> 01:01:44,041 I was so angry with her. 858 01:01:45,417 --> 01:01:46,959 I just felt rejection. 859 01:01:52,041 --> 01:01:52,917 I didn't talk to anybody. 860 01:01:56,834 --> 01:02:00,000 I was more on my own than I had ever been. 861 01:02:19,458 --> 01:02:20,959 [Presence of the Lord playing] 862 01:02:42,917 --> 01:02:45,625 Eric felt that he wanted to try something 863 01:02:45,625 --> 01:02:47,208 a bit different 864 01:02:47,208 --> 01:02:50,000 musically and asked me if I'd be interested. 865 01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,000 We were essentially just experimenting. 866 01:03:00,291 --> 01:03:03,083 None of us more than Eric I think, 867 01:03:03,083 --> 01:03:06,750 he was definitely going through something. 868 01:03:16,208 --> 01:03:18,625 We were just having fun, 869 01:03:18,625 --> 01:03:19,000 we hadn't got an agenda. 870 01:03:21,667 --> 01:03:24,458 I wrote a song called, Presence of the Lord 871 01:03:24,458 --> 01:03:26,125 which it starts out 872 01:03:26,125 --> 01:03:28,000 with the line, "I finally found a place to live." 873 01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:30,959 And I was really writing about Hurtwood. 874 01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:39,000 ♪ I have finally found a place to live ♪ 875 01:03:41,625 --> 01:03:46,625 ♪ Just like I never could before ♪ 876 01:03:47,875 --> 01:03:53,834 ♪ And I know I don't have much to give ♪ 877 01:03:56,125 --> 01:03:59,125 ♪ But I can open any door ♪ 878 01:04:02,750 --> 01:04:08,583 ♪ Everybody knows the secret ♪ 879 01:04:11,250 --> 01:04:16,250 ♪ Everybody knows the score yeah ♪ 880 01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:22,959 ♪ I have finally found a place to live ♪ 881 01:04:26,208 --> 01:04:29,000 ♪ In the presence of the Lord ♪ 882 01:04:31,333 --> 01:04:34,458 ♪ In the presence of the Lord ♪ 883 01:04:40,709 --> 01:04:42,875 By now, Charlotte had had enough. 884 01:04:43,959 --> 01:04:47,208 We broke up and she'd gone back to Paris. 885 01:04:47,208 --> 01:04:51,375 And I had begun on and off to see this girl, Alice. 886 01:04:52,250 --> 01:04:54,667 She was a great woman. 887 01:04:54,667 --> 01:04:58,166 But she didn't know that I was obsessed with Pattie. 888 01:05:00,792 --> 01:05:05,375 ♪ Everybody knows the secret ♪ 889 01:05:09,500 --> 01:05:14,208 ♪ Everybody knows the score yeah, yeah ♪ 890 01:05:16,709 --> 01:05:21,750 ♪ I have finally found a way to live ♪ 891 01:05:22,917 --> 01:05:27,250 ♪ In the presence of the Lord ♪ 892 01:05:29,625 --> 01:05:32,583 ♪ In the presence of the Lord ♪ 893 01:05:47,250 --> 01:05:49,583 One morning, I woke up and 894 01:05:49,583 --> 01:05:51,667 opening the mail, I found this letter 895 01:05:51,667 --> 01:05:53,709 with tiny little handwriting. 896 01:05:55,875 --> 01:05:58,458 And I opened it and it said, 897 01:05:59,959 --> 01:06:01,125 "Dearest L." 898 01:06:05,458 --> 01:06:09,208 The spacing of the words and the size of the lettering 899 01:06:09,208 --> 01:06:11,291 compared to the size of the page. 900 01:06:11,291 --> 01:06:14,667 It was quiet, but it was full of passion. 901 01:06:16,667 --> 01:06:19,250 I almost had a sort of physical reaction 902 01:06:19,250 --> 01:06:22,333 that somebody could write something so amazingly 903 01:06:22,333 --> 01:06:24,542 beautiful and yet keeping it quiet. 904 01:06:26,625 --> 01:06:28,417 It was bursting with passion. 905 01:06:35,458 --> 01:06:38,041 And later in the early evening, 906 01:06:38,041 --> 01:06:40,959 the phone rang and it was Eric. 907 01:06:40,959 --> 01:06:43,458 He said, "I mean what I say in the letter." 908 01:06:56,125 --> 01:06:59,333 The very first time I met Eric. 909 01:06:59,333 --> 01:07:01,959 We were opening up for Blind Faith. 910 01:07:01,959 --> 01:07:04,875 That band broke up, so I called up Eric 911 01:07:04,875 --> 01:07:07,208 and I just said, "I needed to get away, 912 01:07:07,208 --> 01:07:08,208 "and just to get quiet for a while." 913 01:07:08,208 --> 01:07:11,333 And he said, "Why don't you come over?" 914 01:07:11,333 --> 01:07:14,625 We just hung out and played and watched silly programs 915 01:07:14,625 --> 01:07:15,792 and stuff, you know? 916 01:07:18,750 --> 01:07:21,625 I was offered a concert which was a benefit, you know? 917 01:07:21,625 --> 01:07:22,750 Wouldn't make any money, really, it was just a chance 918 01:07:22,750 --> 01:07:25,041 to play somewhere. 919 01:07:25,041 --> 01:07:26,333 Bobby and I 920 01:07:26,333 --> 01:07:27,542 thought, "Why don't we do that?" 921 01:07:27,542 --> 01:07:28,917 So we only did the rhythm section, 922 01:07:28,917 --> 01:07:30,709 but the only rhythm section we knew that we could 923 01:07:30,709 --> 01:07:32,375 work with was Jim and Carl. 924 01:07:32,375 --> 01:07:33,333 So we got Jim and Carl over. 925 01:07:34,542 --> 01:07:37,333 And I think that was the only thing we had planned. 926 01:08:04,875 --> 01:08:09,250 It was all about just playing constantly. 927 01:08:09,250 --> 01:08:12,208 There was times when we jammed in E for like days. 928 01:08:27,125 --> 01:08:28,750 There was really no break from it, 929 01:08:28,750 --> 01:08:31,834 there was like a constant musical party. 930 01:08:31,834 --> 01:08:33,542 Everybody came over to visit. 931 01:08:37,208 --> 01:08:39,834 There was always a lot of cocaine. 932 01:08:39,834 --> 01:08:41,083 Lot of Mandrax, 933 01:08:41,083 --> 01:08:43,083 which is kind of like a quaalude. 934 01:08:43,083 --> 01:08:46,834 LSD, mescaline and a lot of pot, a lot of hash. 935 01:08:48,625 --> 01:08:52,625 I knew something was wrong with Eric, he wasn't himself, 936 01:08:52,625 --> 01:08:55,291 he was very distracted all the time. 937 01:08:55,291 --> 01:08:58,125 Whenever I saw Pattie, I saw him perk up a little bit. 938 01:08:58,125 --> 01:08:58,959 He had a lot of pictures of her around, 939 01:08:58,959 --> 01:09:00,500 like modelling pictures. 940 01:09:00,500 --> 01:09:03,709 I think that was even bigger than his music, 941 01:09:03,709 --> 01:09:05,792 because he seemed to be so obsessed. 942 01:09:10,709 --> 01:09:13,959 Eric started to phone me and said, "Come on. 943 01:09:13,959 --> 01:09:15,166 "You're obviously unhappy, come away with me." 944 01:09:15,166 --> 01:09:18,250 And I'd say, "No, I can't." 945 01:09:18,250 --> 01:09:20,458 You know, I'm married to George and he'll say, 946 01:09:20,458 --> 01:09:21,333 "Look, come on..." 947 01:09:22,917 --> 01:09:26,000 He was fun and awake and alive. 948 01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:28,041 It was the most wonderful temptation 949 01:09:28,959 --> 01:09:30,375 and I could only compare him to George 950 01:09:30,375 --> 01:09:33,458 who could be very cold and would just turn off. 951 01:09:37,375 --> 01:09:40,709 So from time to time, during the summer, 952 01:09:40,709 --> 01:09:42,458 Eric and I saw each other. 953 01:09:42,458 --> 01:09:46,291 We'd go to little places for coffee, lunch or even dinner. 954 01:09:57,458 --> 01:10:00,583 George Harrison rang one afternoon 955 01:10:00,583 --> 01:10:02,166 and he asked Eric, 956 01:10:02,166 --> 01:10:05,000 if he and I would like to play on his first album 957 01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:06,208 that he's gonna do. 958 01:10:06,208 --> 01:10:09,083 He had all these songs, you know? 959 01:10:09,083 --> 01:10:10,583 Eric and I had talked about who we wanted 960 01:10:10,583 --> 01:10:12,291 in the band. 961 01:10:12,291 --> 01:10:14,959 Of course we knew, we wanted Carl. 962 01:10:14,959 --> 01:10:18,083 And Jim Gordon just storm trooped over 963 01:10:18,083 --> 01:10:19,583 and we were ready to go, we couldn't wait. 964 01:10:19,583 --> 01:10:22,750 You know, because it was to go into the studio and record 965 01:10:22,750 --> 01:10:24,709 All Things Must Pass. 966 01:10:24,709 --> 01:10:27,709 So, really, we put the band together 967 01:10:27,709 --> 01:10:30,667 during the All Things Must Pass sessions. 968 01:10:30,667 --> 01:10:31,542 [My Sweet Lord playing] 969 01:10:34,333 --> 01:10:36,959 That was our first recording, 970 01:10:36,959 --> 01:10:38,875 it was All Things Must Pass. 971 01:10:38,875 --> 01:10:40,500 It was the first Dominos real recording. 972 01:10:42,333 --> 01:10:45,375 But that's when the drugs were coming in. 973 01:10:45,375 --> 01:10:49,625 This guy would show up at Abbey Road 974 01:10:49,625 --> 01:10:51,166 and sell you your coke 975 01:10:51,166 --> 01:10:52,458 but he'd make sure that you bought 976 01:10:52,458 --> 01:10:54,750 smack as well. 977 01:10:54,750 --> 01:10:56,333 That was the deal, he wouldn't sell you one 978 01:10:56,333 --> 01:10:57,542 without the other. 979 01:10:57,542 --> 01:10:59,208 ♪ Really want to see you ♪ 980 01:11:01,583 --> 01:11:03,166 Eric says, "You wanna try some of this? 981 01:11:03,166 --> 01:11:06,083 You know, the heroin. 982 01:11:06,083 --> 01:11:08,375 I said, "No, man, let me just watch you." 983 01:11:11,625 --> 01:11:12,333 He did it. 984 01:11:12,333 --> 01:11:15,083 Just snorted it, you know? 985 01:11:15,083 --> 01:11:16,917 I said, "What does it feel like?" 986 01:11:16,917 --> 01:11:20,542 He said, "Pink cotton wool surrounding me." 987 01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:32,291 Then I went in to a sort of trance. 988 01:11:32,291 --> 01:11:36,083 It got really mysterious and I didn't know where I was. 989 01:11:39,083 --> 01:11:42,208 I had been given a little Persian book. 990 01:11:43,208 --> 01:11:45,458 The love story about Laila and Majnun. 991 01:11:49,291 --> 01:11:52,208 An absolute tragedy of doomed love. 992 01:11:55,625 --> 01:11:59,417 The hero ends up alone in the desert 993 01:12:02,041 --> 01:12:05,625 and gives his soul up to Allah before dying alone. 994 01:12:08,125 --> 01:12:11,792 I saw myself as that. 995 01:12:11,792 --> 01:12:15,625 I saw the whole experience with Pattie as tragedy. 996 01:12:20,834 --> 01:12:25,000 Things became rather tricky with George and I. 997 01:12:26,750 --> 01:12:30,959 I met with Eric, we had a drink in South Kensington, 998 01:12:30,959 --> 01:12:32,083 he had a flat there. 999 01:12:39,542 --> 01:12:42,959 Eric said, "You know, I love you and I want you 1000 01:12:42,959 --> 01:12:44,208 "to be with me, come away with me. 1001 01:12:44,208 --> 01:12:47,959 "I just feel that I need you." 1002 01:12:58,333 --> 01:13:01,500 We'd been flirting for quite a while. 1003 01:13:01,500 --> 01:13:04,458 But we hadn't gone over the line. 1004 01:13:06,375 --> 01:13:07,959 But that evening. 1005 01:13:09,417 --> 01:13:09,667 We made love. 1006 01:13:20,250 --> 01:13:23,750 And then we realized that we were supposed to be 1007 01:13:23,750 --> 01:13:24,834 at this party. 1008 01:13:28,709 --> 01:13:31,709 Everybody was there. It was a big party. 1009 01:13:31,709 --> 01:13:33,458 I went with Mick. 1010 01:13:33,458 --> 01:13:36,667 Paul McCartney was there, Eric was there. 1011 01:13:37,709 --> 01:13:38,667 Pattie came without George. 1012 01:13:42,875 --> 01:13:45,792 For the first time, it felt like there was a chance 1013 01:13:45,792 --> 01:13:46,625 for us. 1014 01:13:48,208 --> 01:13:50,125 Eric said he wanted to talk to me 1015 01:13:50,125 --> 01:13:51,625 and we were in the garden. 1016 01:13:51,625 --> 01:13:54,500 This was quite late, you know, because the sun was beginning 1017 01:13:54,500 --> 01:13:54,625 to come up. 1018 01:13:57,250 --> 01:14:00,000 And George appeared from nowhere 1019 01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:02,500 from the mists of the morning. 1020 01:14:06,041 --> 01:14:09,125 And I said, "I have to tell you something, 1021 01:14:09,125 --> 01:14:10,542 "I'm in love with your wife." 1022 01:14:12,750 --> 01:14:15,917 And George looked at me accusingly and said, 1023 01:14:15,917 --> 01:14:18,208 "Well, what are you gonna do, are you going with him 1024 01:14:18,208 --> 01:14:18,542 "or are you coming back with me?" 1025 01:14:21,834 --> 01:14:24,417 I felt her detach. 1026 01:14:24,417 --> 01:14:27,041 Right there and then, I knew the deal was off. 1027 01:14:28,959 --> 01:14:31,500 So I said, "George, of course I'm going with you." 1028 01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:39,750 There were no extra words, there was nothing else 1029 01:14:39,750 --> 01:14:43,458 to be discussed except who was I going home with 1030 01:14:43,458 --> 01:14:46,291 and I found that deeply depressing. 1031 01:14:50,083 --> 01:14:52,834 Everyone knew that George was playing around 1032 01:14:52,834 --> 01:14:55,709 but she was absolutely loyal to him. 1033 01:15:02,125 --> 01:15:04,291 And I thought, "What do you want? 1034 01:15:04,291 --> 01:15:06,834 "Do you want to see me crawl across the floor to you?" 1035 01:15:07,834 --> 01:15:08,667 What do I have to do? 1036 01:15:08,667 --> 01:15:11,917 [Thorn Tree In The Garden playing] 1037 01:15:11,917 --> 01:15:14,000 ♪ There's a thorn tree in the garden ♪ 1038 01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:16,834 ♪ If you know just what I mean ♪ 1039 01:15:16,834 --> 01:15:19,500 ♪ And I hate to hurt your feelings ♪ 1040 01:15:19,500 --> 01:15:21,917 ♪ But it's not the way it seems ♪ 1041 01:15:21,917 --> 01:15:25,333 ♪ 'Cause I miss her ♪ 1042 01:15:32,333 --> 01:15:34,625 ♪ She's the only girl I've cared for 1043 01:15:34,625 --> 01:15:37,166 ♪ The only one I've known ♪ 1044 01:15:37,166 --> 01:15:42,000 ♪ And no one ever shared more love than we've known ♪ 1045 01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:43,667 ♪ And I miss her ♪ 1046 01:15:43,667 --> 01:15:49,166 Eric was going through this major major trauma. 1047 01:15:49,166 --> 01:15:52,542 That's why all that music spoke that way. 1048 01:15:52,542 --> 01:15:54,458 It was Eric telling the truth about 1049 01:15:54,458 --> 01:15:56,333 what was going on with him right then. 1050 01:15:56,333 --> 01:15:57,709 That was for sure. 1051 01:15:57,709 --> 01:16:00,208 ♪ And if she winds up walking the streets ♪ 1052 01:16:00,208 --> 01:16:03,500 ♪ Loving every other man she meets ♪ 1053 01:16:03,500 --> 01:16:08,000 ♪ Who'll be the one to answer why? ♪ 1054 01:16:09,542 --> 01:16:11,333 The people in the South will go out back 1055 01:16:11,333 --> 01:16:13,083 and roll around in the gravel, you know? 1056 01:16:13,083 --> 01:16:15,875 About being in love with your best friend's wife. 1057 01:16:17,208 --> 01:16:18,583 Eric did it musically. 1058 01:16:18,583 --> 01:16:21,750 He wanted so much to get Pattie back 1059 01:16:21,750 --> 01:16:24,625 and he said it was time to record. 1060 01:16:32,458 --> 01:16:34,834 ♪ Maybe someday soon ♪ 1061 01:16:36,375 --> 01:16:41,500 ♪ Somewhere ♪ 1062 01:17:07,083 --> 01:17:09,458 When we got to Miami. 1063 01:17:09,458 --> 01:17:11,792 We set up in Thunderbird motel down there, 1064 01:17:11,792 --> 01:17:16,458 with very large bags of cocaine. 1065 01:17:18,041 --> 01:17:20,917 We really didn't have enough songs for an album. 1066 01:17:22,583 --> 01:17:24,208 But we had faith. 1067 01:17:25,625 --> 01:17:27,959 Played all day, played all night. 1068 01:17:27,959 --> 01:17:30,709 Get back to hotel, hole up in Eric's room 1069 01:17:30,709 --> 01:17:33,667 or something and playing that thing. 1070 01:17:37,542 --> 01:17:41,125 Once more, once more, once more. Sorry. 1071 01:17:51,834 --> 01:17:56,083 They started playing me concepts for songs 1072 01:17:56,083 --> 01:17:59,125 that they had not finalized the arrangements on 1073 01:17:59,125 --> 01:18:02,208 and I just kept tape rolling for a day or two, 1074 01:18:02,208 --> 01:18:03,834 because I was learning the songs as 1075 01:18:03,834 --> 01:18:05,667 they were playing them and the songs 1076 01:18:05,667 --> 01:18:07,291 and the arrangements were evolving. 1077 01:18:07,291 --> 01:18:10,500 I can't do it. When it gets a little more complicated 1078 01:18:10,500 --> 01:18:12,917 than a simple harmony, I'm not sure if I could. 1079 01:18:12,917 --> 01:18:15,542 What if I started out and did the first... 1080 01:18:15,542 --> 01:18:17,208 And the guitar? 1081 01:18:20,375 --> 01:18:21,834 [ Bell Bottom Blues playing] 1082 01:18:55,542 --> 01:18:58,208 About two weeks into the sessions, 1083 01:18:58,208 --> 01:18:59,792 we hit a brick wall. 1084 01:19:01,333 --> 01:19:04,041 We got stuck, really badly stuck. 1085 01:19:04,041 --> 01:19:07,583 I'd written part of the song in England. 1086 01:19:08,208 --> 01:19:09,917 For Pattie. 1087 01:19:09,917 --> 01:19:11,667 It had this sort of story overlaid on him 1088 01:19:11,667 --> 01:19:13,333 about a little Persian book. 1089 01:19:13,333 --> 01:19:16,458 Laila and Majnum. 1090 01:19:16,458 --> 01:19:16,917 And I couldn't finish it. 1091 01:19:19,083 --> 01:19:21,417 What will you do when you get lonely? 1092 01:19:22,917 --> 01:19:26,125 ♪ And nobody's waiting by your side ♪ 1093 01:19:27,417 --> 01:19:30,917 ♪ You've been running and hiding much too long ♪ 1094 01:19:30,917 --> 01:19:34,500 ♪ You know it's just your foolish pride ♪ 1095 01:19:36,375 --> 01:19:38,417 That was for sure, 1096 01:19:38,417 --> 01:19:39,959 a tortured soul singing right there. 1097 01:19:39,959 --> 01:19:43,250 But things were getting complicated. 1098 01:19:43,250 --> 01:19:45,500 The band really needed a new direction. 1099 01:19:46,750 --> 01:19:48,583 [ Dreams playing] 1100 01:20:20,959 --> 01:20:24,000 Tom Dowd took us all to see the Allman Brothers. 1101 01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:27,041 And I was completely blown away by this band 1102 01:20:27,041 --> 01:20:30,291 and they just were incredible musicians. 1103 01:20:41,875 --> 01:20:44,417 Eric had never met Duane. 1104 01:20:44,417 --> 01:20:45,583 He heard about Duane, but Duane and I were 1105 01:20:45,583 --> 01:20:47,458 already tight. 1106 01:20:48,458 --> 01:20:51,333 It was Duane's show, he ran that band, 1107 01:20:51,333 --> 01:20:52,625 he was the band leader. 1108 01:21:14,083 --> 01:21:15,667 That was it. 1109 01:21:15,667 --> 01:21:18,500 After the show, we asked him to come back and we jammed 1110 01:21:18,500 --> 01:21:19,583 all night long. 1111 01:21:50,083 --> 01:21:51,709 [Layla playing] 1112 01:22:15,542 --> 01:22:17,041 ♪ I've tried to give you consolation ♪ 1113 01:22:19,375 --> 01:22:22,041 ♪ When your old man had let you down ♪ 1114 01:22:23,750 --> 01:22:27,959 ♪ Like a fool I fell in love with you ♪ 1115 01:22:27,959 --> 01:22:30,583 ♪ Turned my whole world upside down ♪ 1116 01:22:30,583 --> 01:22:33,625 ♪ Layla ♪ 1117 01:22:33,625 --> 01:22:37,917 ♪ Got me on my knees Layla ♪ 1118 01:22:37,917 --> 01:22:41,959 ♪ I'm begging, darling, please Layla ♪ 1119 01:22:41,959 --> 01:22:44,792 ♪ Darling won't you ease my worried mind ♪ 1120 01:23:43,500 --> 01:23:45,875 Hands are dead! 1121 01:24:09,875 --> 01:24:12,208 Duane and I just became inseparable 1122 01:24:12,208 --> 01:24:14,250 for the rest of the time we were there. 1123 01:24:14,250 --> 01:24:16,250 He was the catalyst we needed. 1124 01:24:19,041 --> 01:24:21,834 It was all about love songs. 1125 01:24:21,834 --> 01:24:24,667 Ballads with a different tempo. 1126 01:24:24,667 --> 01:24:27,959 It was that what we can't see or touch 1127 01:24:27,959 --> 01:24:31,208 or smell, or taste or feel. 1128 01:24:31,208 --> 01:24:34,375 And of course, it was all about Pattie. 1129 01:24:34,375 --> 01:24:36,834 That's why Eric is singing all that pain and agony 1130 01:24:36,834 --> 01:24:37,917 and stuff. 1131 01:24:56,750 --> 01:25:00,291 I met with Eric in South Kensington 1132 01:25:00,291 --> 01:25:03,375 he said, "I've got something for you to hear." 1133 01:25:03,375 --> 01:25:08,208 ♪ Bell bottom blues you made me cry ♪ 1134 01:25:10,917 --> 01:25:12,291 He played me this album. 1135 01:25:14,709 --> 01:25:18,291 My gosh, it was so powerful. 1136 01:25:18,291 --> 01:25:21,083 ♪ If I could choose ♪ 1137 01:25:21,667 --> 01:25:23,667 ♪ A place to die ♪ 1138 01:25:25,542 --> 01:25:27,333 ♪ It would be in your arms ♪ 1139 01:25:30,417 --> 01:25:34,291 ♪ Do you want to see me crawl across the floor to you? ♪ 1140 01:25:34,291 --> 01:25:37,750 I was at bursting point of emotion. 1141 01:25:39,625 --> 01:25:41,208 I couldn't believe that I was the inspiration 1142 01:25:41,208 --> 01:25:43,709 for him putting this together. 1143 01:25:45,208 --> 01:25:46,291 I thought when I heard it, 1144 01:25:46,291 --> 01:25:49,792 that everyone would know it was about me. 1145 01:25:49,792 --> 01:25:53,625 ♪ Give me one more day please ♪ 1146 01:25:53,625 --> 01:25:57,333 ♪ I don't want to fade away ♪ 1147 01:25:57,333 --> 01:25:58,875 And I didn't want this to happen. 1148 01:26:00,041 --> 01:26:02,041 I couldn't stop listening to it. 1149 01:26:03,500 --> 01:26:06,458 But once the album was finished, I couldn't wait 1150 01:26:06,458 --> 01:26:07,917 to get out and go home. 1151 01:26:08,625 --> 01:26:10,166 [ Layla playing] 1152 01:26:30,667 --> 01:26:32,083 It didn't work. 1153 01:26:41,709 --> 01:26:43,208 It was all for nothing. 1154 01:26:43,917 --> 01:26:45,417 It was like a... 1155 01:26:50,125 --> 01:26:51,208 Rejection. 1156 01:27:06,208 --> 01:27:09,875 The Jimi Hendrix Experience is over. 1157 01:27:09,875 --> 01:27:13,333 The acid rock musician died today in a London hospital 1158 01:27:13,333 --> 01:27:15,875 apparently from an overdose of drugs. 1159 01:27:15,875 --> 01:27:18,959 During his short career, Hendrix flailed his 1160 01:27:18,959 --> 01:27:21,709 electric guitar into some of the most unusual 1161 01:27:21,709 --> 01:27:22,458 sounds of an unusual music. 1162 01:27:33,041 --> 01:27:35,709 I went out into the garden and cried all day. 1163 01:27:35,709 --> 01:27:39,041 'Cause he left me behind. 1164 01:27:39,041 --> 01:27:42,083 And not because he's gone, but because he hadn't taken me 1165 01:27:42,083 --> 01:27:43,208 with him. 1166 01:27:44,583 --> 01:27:46,875 This made me so fucking angry. 1167 01:28:01,583 --> 01:28:03,625 Well, it shattered Eric, you know? 1168 01:28:03,625 --> 01:28:06,500 We had just recorded Little Wing couple of weeks 1169 01:28:06,500 --> 01:28:08,166 before that. 1170 01:28:08,166 --> 01:28:09,417 That was Eric's tribute to Jimi. 1171 01:28:09,417 --> 01:28:12,583 So that had a huge impact on Eric. 1172 01:28:30,625 --> 01:28:33,959 Morning, spot me on the Bee Gees and the other one. 1173 01:28:33,959 --> 01:28:35,333 Excellent. 1174 01:28:35,333 --> 01:28:37,542 You hear the new mix down there. 1175 01:28:37,542 --> 01:28:38,625 Eric, you're... 1176 01:28:38,625 --> 01:28:40,250 That Derek, they oughta be a smash hit. 1177 01:28:40,250 --> 01:28:42,125 I'm telling you, it's a mass... 1178 01:28:42,125 --> 01:28:43,875 Dill Besta, Greenbert. 1179 01:28:43,875 --> 01:28:46,208 Jerry... 1180 01:28:46,208 --> 01:28:47,125 All right, yeah. 1181 01:28:47,125 --> 01:28:48,959 Derek and the Dominos, 25 for cash box 1182 01:28:48,959 --> 01:28:51,625 and 24 for record. 1183 01:28:51,625 --> 01:28:57,250 I considered Eric the most major artist on our label. 1184 01:28:58,750 --> 01:29:02,166 So I couldn't believe the record wasn't selling 1185 01:29:02,166 --> 01:29:03,291 in America. 1186 01:29:05,583 --> 01:29:07,083 I didn't know what to do. 1187 01:29:08,291 --> 01:29:11,834 And he knew, it was because nobody knew that Derek 1188 01:29:11,834 --> 01:29:13,625 was Eric. 1189 01:29:13,625 --> 01:29:18,125 So, at that time, Eric was very vulnerable. 1190 01:29:18,834 --> 01:29:20,250 Why not call the group... 1191 01:29:21,417 --> 01:29:21,542 by your name? 1192 01:29:23,458 --> 01:29:25,291 Everybody knows... 1193 01:29:25,291 --> 01:29:28,375 that Derek and the Dominos 1194 01:29:28,375 --> 01:29:31,291 are Eric Clapton, you know what I mean? 1195 01:29:31,291 --> 01:29:33,125 But then, what's the difference? 1196 01:29:33,125 --> 01:29:35,166 But, why, why not? 1197 01:29:35,166 --> 01:29:36,333 Well, because... 1198 01:29:39,834 --> 01:29:42,417 I guess it's just more fun to have a name, you know... 1199 01:29:42,417 --> 01:29:45,542 It's just lighter, you know? 1200 01:29:47,375 --> 01:29:50,750 I read something about the idea that you wanna 1201 01:29:50,750 --> 01:29:54,792 give up touring, you're not considering giving it all up? 1202 01:29:54,792 --> 01:29:57,375 I don't think I could ever stop playing. 1203 01:29:57,375 --> 01:30:00,959 You know, like I could vanish anytime, I could just stop 1204 01:30:00,959 --> 01:30:03,000 making appearances at anytime. 1205 01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:06,667 I think I could, that's quite easy. 1206 01:30:06,667 --> 01:30:09,041 You know, financially if I was secure enough 1207 01:30:09,041 --> 01:30:10,834 to able to not have to go on the road 1208 01:30:10,834 --> 01:30:13,041 which I'm not at the moment, I need to go out to make money 1209 01:30:13,041 --> 01:30:15,500 to exist. 1210 01:30:15,500 --> 01:30:18,667 If I didn't need to do that, as long as I had someone 1211 01:30:18,667 --> 01:30:20,750 around me to play with, you know, 1212 01:30:20,750 --> 01:30:23,750 I could probably just stay at home all the time. 1213 01:31:38,500 --> 01:31:41,041 I feel much more alone these days. 1214 01:31:41,041 --> 01:31:42,500 You know and if I'm alone, I'll cry. 1215 01:31:42,500 --> 01:31:45,542 You know, literally just weep. 1216 01:31:47,542 --> 01:31:50,166 What I want most is out. 1217 01:31:50,166 --> 01:31:51,875 You know, out of everything. 1218 01:31:53,458 --> 01:31:56,834 Because, right now, all I can see is the suffering of today 1219 01:31:56,834 --> 01:31:58,166 and the suffering of tomorrow. 1220 01:32:11,041 --> 01:32:12,667 It comes first. 1221 01:32:12,667 --> 01:32:14,000 Yeah. 1222 01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:18,417 It's like surrounding yourself in pink cotton wool, you know? 1223 01:32:18,417 --> 01:32:20,667 Nothing bothers you, whatsoever, man. 1224 01:32:20,667 --> 01:32:23,250 Nothing will faze you out, in any way. 1225 01:32:24,458 --> 01:32:26,709 I also have this death wish. 1226 01:32:28,291 --> 01:32:30,875 I don't like life. 1227 01:32:32,375 --> 01:32:34,709 No. And I'm not gonna live very long. 1228 01:32:43,709 --> 01:32:44,875 Eric went into seclusion. 1229 01:32:47,417 --> 01:32:50,542 He turned and walked away, without us. 1230 01:32:50,542 --> 01:32:52,625 And he got off into the heroin. 1231 01:32:54,834 --> 01:32:56,917 And I was gonna stay there and wait it out. 1232 01:32:56,917 --> 01:32:59,458 But it didn't seem like it was ever gonna happen. 1233 01:33:02,875 --> 01:33:03,750 I thought it was the beginning. 1234 01:33:06,083 --> 01:33:06,875 I didn't know it was the end. 1235 01:33:51,875 --> 01:33:53,583 I was in Wales at the time, 1236 01:33:53,583 --> 01:33:56,500 and I went down to Hurtwood where he lived. 1237 01:33:59,625 --> 01:34:02,834 I didn't know anything about heroin addiction. 1238 01:34:02,834 --> 01:34:04,542 I just thought because I was one of his oldest friends, 1239 01:34:04,542 --> 01:34:07,709 if not his oldest friend. 1240 01:34:07,709 --> 01:34:10,125 There just might be something we could talk about. 1241 01:34:14,291 --> 01:34:17,959 And I saw him moving past the window upstairs 1242 01:34:17,959 --> 01:34:19,500 in the house. 1243 01:34:19,500 --> 01:34:21,041 But the house was locked. 1244 01:34:25,500 --> 01:34:28,583 And nobody had responded to me ringing the bell, 1245 01:34:28,583 --> 01:34:30,917 knocking the door. 1246 01:34:30,917 --> 01:34:33,208 In the end, I figured, "He doesn't want to see you," 1247 01:34:33,208 --> 01:34:34,750 and I left him alone. 1248 01:34:58,041 --> 01:35:00,792 I didn't see him for a long time. 1249 01:35:00,792 --> 01:35:03,792 And I thought to myself, given his family history 1250 01:35:03,792 --> 01:35:07,333 so far, this is going to be very difficult for him 1251 01:35:07,333 --> 01:35:08,917 to get through. 1252 01:35:08,917 --> 01:35:11,125 There are things you don't get over. 1253 01:35:11,125 --> 01:35:14,291 You have to find a comfortable place to put them. 1254 01:35:16,375 --> 01:35:17,709 But they're always there. 1255 01:35:41,542 --> 01:35:44,333 With '74 tour, we started Scandinavia at first, 1256 01:35:44,333 --> 01:35:46,500 just as a warm up. 1257 01:35:46,500 --> 01:35:49,250 He was fragile, I'm not sure whether he was 1258 01:35:49,250 --> 01:35:51,083 really aware of everything around him. 1259 01:35:51,083 --> 01:35:52,375 What was going on around him. 1260 01:35:56,917 --> 01:35:59,041 I managed to come off heroin. 1261 01:35:59,041 --> 01:36:03,500 But I just went from one addiction to another. 1262 01:36:03,500 --> 01:36:07,291 And the attitude back then was that alcohol was okay. 1263 01:36:07,291 --> 01:36:12,417 But for me, alcohol was far more dangerous than heroin. 1264 01:36:18,417 --> 01:36:20,250 Whether it be record label forcing him, 1265 01:36:20,250 --> 01:36:22,834 management forcing him, may have been a little too quick 1266 01:36:22,834 --> 01:36:25,291 going on a huge tour like that, 1267 01:36:25,291 --> 01:36:27,208 and throwing him back into the public limelight 1268 01:36:27,208 --> 01:36:28,166 after being a hermit 1269 01:36:28,166 --> 01:36:31,083 through the past four or five years. 1270 01:36:34,417 --> 01:36:35,000 I'll drink to that. 1271 01:36:42,959 --> 01:36:46,000 Eric discovered Gevassier and Remy Martin 1272 01:36:46,000 --> 01:36:48,750 and just went into it. 1273 01:36:48,750 --> 01:36:51,625 if he got a hold of something, he'd hit at it 1274 01:36:51,625 --> 01:36:53,542 until it was gone. 1275 01:36:53,542 --> 01:36:55,542 And before you know it, he'd be through a whole bottle 1276 01:36:55,542 --> 01:36:59,542 of cognac before lunch time's over. 1277 01:36:59,542 --> 01:37:01,834 It looked like he wanted to kill himself. 1278 01:37:25,583 --> 01:37:27,834 Some shows, he played 30 minutes 1279 01:37:27,834 --> 01:37:29,542 and say, "I'm done." 1280 01:37:29,542 --> 01:37:32,917 You know the contract may have said an hour and a half. 1281 01:37:32,917 --> 01:37:36,458 But you also have 25,000, 30,000 people that have... 1282 01:37:36,458 --> 01:37:39,792 Get a little upset... 1283 01:37:39,792 --> 01:37:41,667 Sit down and shut up! 1284 01:37:41,667 --> 01:37:43,542 It was still legal to throw bottles 1285 01:37:43,542 --> 01:37:46,834 and coolers and can openers and whatever you want 1286 01:37:46,834 --> 01:37:48,959 to throw up there, you could throw. 1287 01:37:48,959 --> 01:37:50,959 You'll think your life is in jeopardy. 1288 01:37:52,834 --> 01:37:54,959 Jamie Oldaker! 1289 01:37:56,000 --> 01:37:57,291 Ah. 1290 01:37:58,917 --> 01:38:00,250 Smile, you cunt! 1291 01:38:28,041 --> 01:38:31,166 The first disappointing confrontation with my mother 1292 01:38:31,166 --> 01:38:32,375 was when I was nine. 1293 01:38:34,542 --> 01:38:39,208 I learned how to recover from that over the next few years. 1294 01:38:39,208 --> 01:38:42,333 Becoming good at art and developing a strong interest 1295 01:38:42,333 --> 01:38:43,208 in music. 1296 01:38:47,250 --> 01:38:50,667 By then I'd kind of developed a personal look. 1297 01:39:17,500 --> 01:39:22,208 I had my guitar and that was my total companion 1298 01:39:22,208 --> 01:39:23,583 in its little case. 1299 01:39:26,291 --> 01:39:29,208 And then there came this invitation to go to Germany, 1300 01:39:29,208 --> 01:39:32,875 because Pat's husband had been stationed there 1301 01:39:32,875 --> 01:39:35,709 with the Canadian Air Force. 1302 01:39:38,834 --> 01:39:40,041 He came over to visit us in Germany 1303 01:39:40,041 --> 01:39:43,291 and he was just so keen on the guitar. 1304 01:39:43,291 --> 01:39:45,834 And we said, if he wanted to bring the guitar with him 1305 01:39:45,834 --> 01:39:47,125 to practice, he could. 1306 01:39:47,125 --> 01:39:49,500 Because really and truly, like everybody else, 1307 01:39:49,500 --> 01:39:50,083 we didn't take it seriously. 1308 01:39:52,291 --> 01:39:55,917 We're on an army camp and I didn't fit. 1309 01:39:57,500 --> 01:40:01,166 And it was suggested to me that I should get a hair cut. 1310 01:40:03,583 --> 01:40:06,291 I said, "I'd rather not, I like my hair the way it is." 1311 01:40:11,250 --> 01:40:13,667 My mother put on this face like, 1312 01:40:13,667 --> 01:40:16,125 "Dare to defy me." 1313 01:40:16,125 --> 01:40:18,083 And I thought, "I don't like you. 1314 01:40:19,041 --> 01:40:21,166 "You don't want me anyway. 1315 01:40:21,166 --> 01:40:24,000 "And now you really don't want me the way I am." 1316 01:40:30,333 --> 01:40:33,000 Rose said, "Please, do this." 1317 01:40:33,000 --> 01:40:34,667 Just to keep everybody happy. 1318 01:40:41,583 --> 01:40:42,333 So they gave me a crew cut. 1319 01:40:47,083 --> 01:40:48,542 It made me cry. 1320 01:40:54,417 --> 01:40:57,291 And a couple of days later, my brother came in, 1321 01:40:57,291 --> 01:41:01,500 my half brother and sat on the guitar 1322 01:41:01,500 --> 01:41:03,458 and broke the neck clean in half. 1323 01:41:06,375 --> 01:41:10,291 It was like, everything was done to demolish 1324 01:41:10,291 --> 01:41:11,750 my personality 1325 01:41:12,458 --> 01:41:14,291 and make me null and void. 1326 01:41:16,208 --> 01:41:18,583 I was full of hatred, anger and resentment. 1327 01:41:20,917 --> 01:41:23,959 So I thought, "Okay. 1328 01:41:27,375 --> 01:41:29,583 "That's the last time I trust anyone." 1329 01:41:39,500 --> 01:41:41,250 Things became very difficult with George 1330 01:41:41,250 --> 01:41:43,792 and I, and we decided it would be better 1331 01:41:43,792 --> 01:41:46,959 if we parted. 1332 01:41:46,959 --> 01:41:49,709 I heard that Eric was on a tour. 1333 01:41:49,709 --> 01:41:50,250 I went to surprise him. 1334 01:41:52,834 --> 01:41:54,959 Our relationship hadn't been completed. 1335 01:41:54,959 --> 01:41:58,667 There was clearly more to it than just snatched meetings. 1336 01:42:00,750 --> 01:42:03,166 I hadn't seen her for all those years. 1337 01:42:03,917 --> 01:42:06,500 Pattie must have known 1338 01:42:06,500 --> 01:42:08,750 she was getting involved with someone 1339 01:42:08,750 --> 01:42:10,333 who was pretty unstable. 1340 01:42:12,375 --> 01:42:16,625 As much as I could love someone, I loved her. 1341 01:42:18,041 --> 01:42:20,291 I was not just screwed up, but you know, 1342 01:42:20,291 --> 01:42:22,291 a full blown addict by then. 1343 01:42:25,208 --> 01:42:29,417 Maybe I never got beyond just wanting her 1344 01:42:29,417 --> 01:42:30,625 from a distance. 1345 01:42:32,583 --> 01:42:34,875 We would do all sorts of things together 1346 01:42:36,000 --> 01:42:38,667 and he would say, he loves me. 1347 01:42:38,667 --> 01:42:41,542 But he wanted to drink all the time 1348 01:42:41,542 --> 01:42:44,166 and it just increased. 1349 01:42:44,166 --> 01:42:46,792 But then when he had too much to drink 1350 01:42:46,792 --> 01:42:48,291 or became really seriously unpleasant 1351 01:42:48,291 --> 01:42:51,417 and I felt that he didn't love me either. 1352 01:42:51,417 --> 01:42:53,500 So this was really ghastly 1353 01:42:53,500 --> 01:42:55,500 until maybe the next day 1354 01:42:55,500 --> 01:42:57,083 and he'd be loving again. 1355 01:42:57,667 --> 01:42:59,625 He was quite scary, 1356 01:42:59,625 --> 01:43:02,959 and he would scream at me across hotel lobbies. 1357 01:43:04,500 --> 01:43:07,041 He was just listening to a different drummer 1358 01:43:07,041 --> 01:43:08,375 when he was that drunk. 1359 01:43:13,583 --> 01:43:15,125 Mind if I have a drink? 1360 01:43:28,709 --> 01:43:30,917 Tell you what, you want to come on stage 1361 01:43:30,917 --> 01:43:34,166 and talk, you want to come up here and talk about it? 1362 01:43:34,166 --> 01:43:35,458 I'll fucking have you, I'll tell ya. 1363 01:43:40,083 --> 01:43:43,041 It got to be a point of wondering, 1364 01:43:43,041 --> 01:43:44,917 you know, each show, what's going to happen 1365 01:43:44,917 --> 01:43:48,250 tomorrow night? 1366 01:43:48,250 --> 01:43:50,917 And I used to ask Carl, "What's up with this guy? 1367 01:43:50,917 --> 01:43:52,709 "They told me he was a nice guy." 1368 01:43:52,709 --> 01:43:55,166 You know, I have to lock my doors every night 1369 01:43:55,166 --> 01:43:57,709 and hide from this guy, 'cause he's out of his mind. 1370 01:44:34,333 --> 01:44:38,333 When I realized what I said, 1371 01:44:38,333 --> 01:44:42,000 I just was so disgusted with myself. 1372 01:44:42,000 --> 01:44:43,834 I was so fucking angry. 1373 01:44:46,166 --> 01:44:48,625 And I thought I needed to apologize to the people 1374 01:44:48,625 --> 01:44:50,542 I said that to. 1375 01:44:50,542 --> 01:44:52,417 Because it was so shocking and unforgivable 1376 01:44:52,417 --> 01:44:56,625 and I was so ashamed of who I was. 1377 01:44:56,625 --> 01:44:58,875 I was becoming not only chauvinistic 1378 01:44:58,875 --> 01:45:01,500 but fascistic too. 1379 01:45:01,500 --> 01:45:03,500 I was a kind of a semi racist 1380 01:45:04,625 --> 01:45:06,333 which didn't make sense. 1381 01:45:07,917 --> 01:45:10,875 I mean, half of my friends were black. 1382 01:45:10,875 --> 01:45:13,125 I dated black women and listened to black music 1383 01:45:13,125 --> 01:45:16,083 and championed black music. 1384 01:45:17,250 --> 01:45:20,041 But it didn't matter at all. 1385 01:45:22,291 --> 01:45:24,291 They could have all gone to the wall as long as I had 1386 01:45:24,291 --> 01:45:25,458 the bottle. 1387 01:45:25,458 --> 01:45:29,792 I hated everything. Everything. 1388 01:45:34,417 --> 01:45:37,792 I thought I had this dream, you know? 1389 01:45:37,792 --> 01:45:41,083 About the perfect band, you know? 1390 01:45:41,083 --> 01:45:45,250 I the... And the virtuoso 1391 01:45:45,250 --> 01:45:46,375 of each instrument, you know? 1392 01:45:46,375 --> 01:45:48,000 I thought I was a virtuoso. 1393 01:45:48,000 --> 01:45:50,166 My instrument, 1394 01:45:50,166 --> 01:45:53,375 thought Jack and Ginger was the virtuoso 1395 01:45:53,375 --> 01:45:57,667 and, uh, we all thought that. 1396 01:45:57,667 --> 01:46:00,250 I'm sad that it actually ever happen, really. 1397 01:46:02,083 --> 01:46:04,333 Because... 1398 01:46:04,333 --> 01:46:06,291 I mean, I wouldn't want to change anything 1399 01:46:06,291 --> 01:46:07,834 but probably would've done better 1400 01:46:07,834 --> 01:46:09,875 to stay with John Mayall 1401 01:46:11,542 --> 01:46:14,750 and then because, it was that Cream thing, 1402 01:46:14,750 --> 01:46:15,834 it was all like... 1403 01:46:18,000 --> 01:46:19,750 It was just aggressive music. 1404 01:46:28,291 --> 01:46:30,667 It's not even worth it, is it? 1405 01:46:30,667 --> 01:46:34,166 Just fucking do it. She's got another stash. 1406 01:46:36,375 --> 01:46:39,083 Eric was a very sad person. 1407 01:46:40,000 --> 01:46:41,500 Very, very sad. 1408 01:46:48,208 --> 01:46:51,000 He was a broken man 1409 01:46:51,000 --> 01:46:53,333 who can't cope, who can hardly speak. 1410 01:46:55,250 --> 01:46:57,875 He started having seizures 1411 01:46:57,875 --> 01:47:02,125 and then the doctor told me, unless he stopped drinking, 1412 01:47:02,125 --> 01:47:02,542 he would die. 1413 01:47:32,750 --> 01:47:35,709 The only reason I didn't commit suicide 1414 01:47:35,709 --> 01:47:37,542 was the fact that I wouldn't be able to drink any more 1415 01:47:37,542 --> 01:47:38,959 if I was dead. 1416 01:47:40,792 --> 01:47:44,792 My capacity for the love of alcohol was boundless. 1417 01:47:46,125 --> 01:47:48,458 So I drank and drank and drank. 1418 01:47:48,458 --> 01:47:49,667 Again and again and again. 1419 01:48:31,834 --> 01:48:34,458 When making records during the drunken period. 1420 01:48:34,458 --> 01:48:36,458 I personally find it difficult to listen to, 1421 01:48:36,458 --> 01:48:37,917 because I can hear how drunk I am. 1422 01:48:40,667 --> 01:48:43,333 All of these albums have, 1423 01:48:43,333 --> 01:48:45,875 elements where it's moved up a notch 1424 01:48:47,500 --> 01:48:50,709 and I've been given the chance to sing and play 1425 01:48:50,709 --> 01:48:51,792 in a way that I hadn't before. 1426 01:48:57,417 --> 01:49:00,000 I went off to Moscow, 1427 01:49:00,000 --> 01:49:02,500 a lot of things took place while I was there. 1428 01:49:02,500 --> 01:49:04,750 I ended up having an affair 1429 01:49:04,750 --> 01:49:05,834 with the studio manageress, 1430 01:49:05,834 --> 01:49:10,083 George Martin's Air Studios in Montserrat. 1431 01:49:10,083 --> 01:49:12,125 A lovely woman called Yvonne, 1432 01:49:12,125 --> 01:49:15,125 very attractive lady, very funny, very witty. 1433 01:49:15,125 --> 01:49:17,375 And I got a letter from her 1434 01:49:17,375 --> 01:49:20,291 saying she was pregnant with a daughter 1435 01:49:20,291 --> 01:49:23,333 and that she didn't have any expectations from me, 1436 01:49:23,333 --> 01:49:25,083 she was going to try and raise the child 1437 01:49:25,083 --> 01:49:26,709 in her existing marriage. 1438 01:49:26,709 --> 01:49:29,583 And I knew I just wasn't capable of having 1439 01:49:29,583 --> 01:49:30,667 a relationship. 1440 01:49:31,250 --> 01:49:34,208 ♪ When, when ♪ 1441 01:49:34,208 --> 01:49:36,333 Okay, let's just do it more acapella. 1442 01:49:36,333 --> 01:49:38,750 One, two , three, four. 1443 01:49:38,750 --> 01:49:41,792 ♪ When I see those big, brown eyes ♪ 1444 01:49:41,792 --> 01:49:44,375 ♪ That's when I take my cue ♪ 1445 01:49:44,375 --> 01:49:46,375 ♪ Don't take us but a few minutes to get ♪ 1446 01:49:46,375 --> 01:49:49,291 ♪ A message through ♪ 1447 01:49:49,291 --> 01:49:51,625 ♪ I talk to you, you talk to me ♪ 1448 01:49:51,625 --> 01:49:54,125 ♪ I keep talking to the wrong person ♪ 1449 01:49:54,125 --> 01:49:56,917 ♪ It don't take but a few minutes ♪ 1450 01:49:56,917 --> 01:49:57,500 ♪ To get a man's... ♪ 1451 01:49:57,500 --> 01:50:00,667 Understand each other. 1452 01:50:00,667 --> 01:50:01,875 Am I gonna remember that? 1453 01:50:03,542 --> 01:50:06,250 Well, you wrote it. 1454 01:50:06,250 --> 01:50:10,291 I was in absolute denial about my alcoholism. 1455 01:50:10,291 --> 01:50:13,792 I had gone to the best treatment centre in the world 1456 01:50:13,792 --> 01:50:15,417 but I got into dope again 1457 01:50:15,417 --> 01:50:18,083 and alcohol and blow. 1458 01:50:18,083 --> 01:50:20,667 And I was trying to hide it from everybody. 1459 01:50:21,667 --> 01:50:24,667 Some people say you have to live the blues 1460 01:50:24,667 --> 01:50:25,959 to sing the blues. 1461 01:50:25,959 --> 01:50:27,083 During that period of time in your life 1462 01:50:27,083 --> 01:50:30,750 where you were involved with drugs and alcohol, 1463 01:50:30,750 --> 01:50:32,959 did you do that to justify that point of view? 1464 01:50:32,959 --> 01:50:35,834 No, you know, I was just a party animal. 1465 01:50:35,834 --> 01:50:37,041 A fun seeking boy. 1466 01:50:40,458 --> 01:50:42,792 And then I was in Milan, touring and a promoter 1467 01:50:42,792 --> 01:50:45,417 then she introduced me to Lory Del Santo. 1468 01:50:47,709 --> 01:50:49,792 I was just smitten with her 1469 01:50:49,792 --> 01:50:52,959 and decided I'm going to start my life from scratch 1470 01:50:52,959 --> 01:50:56,000 here in Italy without any idea where it was going to go. 1471 01:50:58,458 --> 01:51:00,709 He was a complete asshole. 1472 01:51:00,709 --> 01:51:03,792 There was no relationship, and I knew it wouldn't work. 1473 01:51:03,792 --> 01:51:07,041 And I felt so sad that he and I split up 1474 01:51:07,041 --> 01:51:09,125 because of that ridiculous idea. 1475 01:51:09,125 --> 01:51:13,041 But he was a sick person and he obviously believed it. 1476 01:51:14,291 --> 01:51:15,333 We tried to make a go of it. 1477 01:51:15,333 --> 01:51:17,500 But she didn't know who she was dealing with, 1478 01:51:17,500 --> 01:51:21,333 I was not grounded in any way. 1479 01:51:21,333 --> 01:51:24,041 I said, "Well, look, I don't think this is working. 1480 01:51:24,041 --> 01:51:26,417 "I want to go back to my wife." 1481 01:51:28,166 --> 01:51:30,458 And she told me, "Well, that's not really 1482 01:51:30,458 --> 01:51:32,041 "good news, because I'm pregnant." 1483 01:51:48,166 --> 01:51:49,959 Mmm. 1484 01:51:53,667 --> 01:51:55,458 Conor was the first thing that happened to me 1485 01:51:55,458 --> 01:51:57,625 in my entire life 1486 01:51:57,625 --> 01:51:59,667 that really got to my core 1487 01:51:59,667 --> 01:52:03,625 and told me, time to grow up. 1488 01:52:10,333 --> 01:52:12,041 Strong man. 1489 01:52:12,041 --> 01:52:14,041 I could not fuck around any longer. 1490 01:52:15,875 --> 01:52:16,917 I could not damage this. 1491 01:52:21,583 --> 01:52:21,917 Up. 1492 01:52:25,375 --> 01:52:27,667 Catch that. 1493 01:52:41,834 --> 01:52:44,000 Well that came about quite out of the blue. 1494 01:52:44,000 --> 01:52:47,750 I met this young lady and bang it happened. 1495 01:52:47,750 --> 01:52:49,792 It was like the baby was looking for parents too. 1496 01:52:50,792 --> 01:52:51,875 You know, to give it life. 1497 01:52:52,750 --> 01:52:55,834 And he's great, it's wonderful. 1498 01:52:57,542 --> 01:53:00,375 Yes, just you know, 1499 01:53:00,375 --> 01:53:02,208 grow up happily with my son. 1500 01:53:21,625 --> 01:53:23,959 I got to the place where I couldn't live without 1501 01:53:23,959 --> 01:53:25,875 a drink and I couldn't live with it. 1502 01:53:26,917 --> 01:53:27,792 When I tried to stop on my own, 1503 01:53:27,792 --> 01:53:29,750 my withdrawals were so hard 1504 01:53:29,750 --> 01:53:32,583 that I had a grand mal seizure. 1505 01:53:35,458 --> 01:53:37,834 I was on my own in the house one day. 1506 01:53:39,000 --> 01:53:43,000 And I got down on my knees and prayed. 1507 01:53:43,000 --> 01:53:46,959 Was a really clumsy experience but it was born out of real 1508 01:53:46,959 --> 01:53:49,208 desperation. 1509 01:53:49,208 --> 01:53:51,000 And I said, "Just let me have some peace." 1510 01:54:10,709 --> 01:54:12,333 What effect has fatherhood had on you? 1511 01:54:12,333 --> 01:54:15,834 A very stabilizing effect because you suddenly 1512 01:54:15,834 --> 01:54:17,500 have to stop being so selfish, you know? 1513 01:54:17,500 --> 01:54:20,041 You have to think more about the life of someone else. 1514 01:54:20,041 --> 01:54:22,333 It is like a blood thing. 1515 01:54:22,333 --> 01:54:25,083 It's a tie for the rest of your life. 1516 01:54:25,083 --> 01:54:26,667 And I love him dearly 1517 01:54:26,667 --> 01:54:30,375 and really he's made a massive change in me. 1518 01:54:51,083 --> 01:54:54,500 Lory and Conor were staying in New York 1519 01:54:54,500 --> 01:54:57,875 in this place called the Galleria on 57th street. 1520 01:54:57,875 --> 01:55:00,333 And I was in New York as well. 1521 01:55:00,333 --> 01:55:04,458 So I took Conor to see the circus on Long Island. 1522 01:55:11,041 --> 01:55:12,583 We had a great time. 1523 01:55:17,041 --> 01:55:19,208 The following day, I was going to take Conor for lunch 1524 01:55:19,208 --> 01:55:20,208 maybe on my own. 1525 01:55:20,208 --> 01:55:22,709 It was about eleven in the morning. 1526 01:55:22,709 --> 01:55:25,625 I was getting ready to go up to 57th Street. 1527 01:55:26,583 --> 01:55:29,333 Then I got a phone call from Lory, 1528 01:55:29,959 --> 01:55:32,500 just kind of screaming. 1529 01:55:34,083 --> 01:55:36,542 She said, "He's dead." 1530 01:55:36,542 --> 01:55:38,125 I thought, "What's she talking about?" 1531 01:55:38,125 --> 01:55:40,083 She said, "He fell out the window." 1532 01:55:44,417 --> 01:55:47,083 There couldn't have been a bigger nightmare. 1533 01:55:47,083 --> 01:55:49,250 Before anyone could stop him, four-year-old Conor Clapton 1534 01:55:49,250 --> 01:55:52,583 had plunged to his death from the 53rd floor 1535 01:55:52,583 --> 01:55:54,000 of the Galleria building. 1536 01:55:54,000 --> 01:55:55,792 He made it past his mother and three other adults 1537 01:55:55,792 --> 01:55:58,208 who were in the apartment 1538 01:55:58,208 --> 01:56:00,959 to a window that had just been cleaned and left open. 1539 01:56:00,959 --> 01:56:02,000 There was nothing to break his fall 1540 01:56:02,000 --> 01:56:05,542 except the roof of an adjoining building. 1541 01:56:05,542 --> 01:56:06,959 It's just a tragic accident, that the child apparently 1542 01:56:06,959 --> 01:56:10,959 wandered into... Into the bedroom, 1543 01:56:10,959 --> 01:56:13,125 wandered close to the window 1544 01:56:13,125 --> 01:56:18,709 and just by the fact that the window ledge was low. 1545 01:56:18,709 --> 01:56:21,250 It appears that he just tragically fell out. 1546 01:56:33,500 --> 01:56:37,208 I felt like I stepped back out of myself. 1547 01:56:37,208 --> 01:56:40,417 I couldn't grasp it, I could not grasp it. 1548 01:56:42,959 --> 01:56:47,125 And I went with the body down to the nearest hospital. 1549 01:56:48,417 --> 01:56:49,875 I went to see him 1550 01:56:50,583 --> 01:56:52,458 and I said goodbye to him. 1551 01:56:55,041 --> 01:56:56,709 And I did lose faith. 1552 01:57:22,625 --> 01:57:24,834 It was horrific. 1553 01:57:24,834 --> 01:57:27,375 I just couldn't think about that little boy. 1554 01:57:28,291 --> 01:57:29,458 This little soul. 1555 01:57:38,208 --> 01:57:39,875 Eric was a fighter. 1556 01:57:39,875 --> 01:57:42,375 But I know that 1557 01:57:42,375 --> 01:57:45,250 as well as myself, a lot of his friends 1558 01:57:45,250 --> 01:57:47,041 were very concerned about him, 1559 01:57:47,041 --> 01:57:51,166 his sobriety, he was on his own. 1560 01:58:05,291 --> 01:58:08,166 Italians had gone home and Hurtwood was quiet 1561 01:58:08,166 --> 01:58:08,333 and it was just me there. 1562 01:58:10,291 --> 01:58:11,208 With my thoughts. 1563 01:58:13,667 --> 01:58:16,208 I started opening all my letters of condolence. 1564 01:58:16,208 --> 01:58:19,291 Thousands and thousands of them. 1565 01:58:20,250 --> 01:58:23,208 I opened one and it was from Conor. 1566 01:58:27,083 --> 01:58:29,375 And it had been posted weeks before from Milan. 1567 01:58:34,375 --> 01:58:36,667 And I realized if I can go through this and stay sober 1568 01:58:36,667 --> 01:58:38,542 then anyone can. 1569 01:58:40,417 --> 01:58:42,583 And I suddenly became aware of the fact 1570 01:58:42,583 --> 01:58:44,792 that there was a way to turn this dreadful tragedy 1571 01:58:44,792 --> 01:58:48,417 into something positive. 1572 01:58:48,417 --> 01:58:52,458 That I would consider living my life from this point on 1573 01:58:52,458 --> 01:58:53,417 to honour the memory of my son. 1574 01:59:01,667 --> 01:59:03,875 I got hold of the little Spanish guitar that I had 1575 01:59:03,875 --> 01:59:04,834 lying around. 1576 01:59:04,834 --> 01:59:06,166 And I had it with me the whole time. 1577 01:59:06,166 --> 01:59:10,125 From the minute I woke up. 1578 01:59:10,125 --> 01:59:14,709 And for the rest of that year, I just played and played 1579 01:59:14,709 --> 01:59:16,834 to stop from facing this situation. 1580 01:59:25,125 --> 01:59:28,000 [Tears In Heaven playing] 1581 01:59:52,333 --> 01:59:56,583 ♪ Would you know my name? ♪ 1582 01:59:58,750 --> 02:00:02,583 ♪ If I saw you in heaven ♪ 1583 02:00:04,166 --> 02:00:09,166 ♪ Would it be the same? ♪ 1584 02:00:11,250 --> 02:00:14,375 ♪ If I saw you in heaven ♪ 1585 02:00:17,917 --> 02:00:21,166 ♪ I must be strong ♪ 1586 02:00:24,125 --> 02:00:27,709 ♪ And carry on ♪ 1587 02:00:27,709 --> 02:00:32,667 ♪ 'Cause I know I don't belong ♪ 1588 02:00:34,166 --> 02:00:37,041 ♪ Here in heaven ♪ 1589 02:00:48,333 --> 02:00:51,500 ♪ Time can bring you down ♪ 1590 02:00:51,500 --> 02:00:55,041 ♪ Time can bend your knees ♪ 1591 02:01:00,583 --> 02:01:03,792 ♪ Time can break your heart ♪ 1592 02:01:03,792 --> 02:01:08,917 ♪ Have you begging please, begging please ♪ 1593 02:01:15,458 --> 02:01:16,834 Music saved me. 1594 02:01:19,291 --> 02:01:21,709 Just as it had when I was a boy of nine. 1595 02:01:23,500 --> 02:01:25,125 It took the pain away. 1596 02:01:27,250 --> 02:01:31,291 And I wrote these songs for myself 1597 02:01:31,291 --> 02:01:33,750 because I was feeling terrible inside. 1598 02:01:37,709 --> 02:01:40,500 ♪ Beyond the door ♪ 1599 02:01:44,041 --> 02:01:46,458 ♪ There's peace I'm sure ♪ 1600 02:01:46,458 --> 02:01:52,166 ♪ And I know there'll be no more ♪ 1601 02:01:53,667 --> 02:01:56,041 ♪ Tears in heaven ♪ 1602 02:01:56,041 --> 02:01:58,959 And the Grammy goes to Tears in Heaven, 1603 02:01:58,959 --> 02:02:00,458 Eric Clapton. 1604 02:02:03,709 --> 02:02:06,250 And the song of the year is, 1605 02:02:06,250 --> 02:02:09,625 Eric Clapton and Will Jennings, songwriters 1606 02:02:09,625 --> 02:02:10,625 for Tears in Heaven. 1607 02:02:10,625 --> 02:02:12,834 And the album of the year is... 1608 02:02:12,834 --> 02:02:14,959 ♪ 'Cause I know... ♪ 1609 02:02:14,959 --> 02:02:16,750 Unplugged, Eric Clapton. 1610 02:02:18,959 --> 02:02:23,125 As much as I'm proud of what I've achieved musically. 1611 02:02:23,125 --> 02:02:25,166 It's all dust really. 1612 02:02:25,166 --> 02:02:28,041 At some point, there will be people who have no idea 1613 02:02:28,041 --> 02:02:29,458 what I did and who I am. 1614 02:02:29,458 --> 02:02:32,208 And I'm quite comfortable about that. 1615 02:02:35,333 --> 02:02:35,458 Thank you. 1616 02:02:38,500 --> 02:02:42,709 Finally, me and my daughter, Ruth 1617 02:02:42,709 --> 02:02:45,250 were able to begin our own relationship, 1618 02:02:45,834 --> 02:02:47,250 which was wonderful. 1619 02:02:48,000 --> 02:02:50,166 And it took me to a place 1620 02:02:50,166 --> 02:02:52,250 where I was able to have a great relationship with Ruth 1621 02:02:52,250 --> 02:02:56,125 and also become available 1622 02:02:56,125 --> 02:02:58,500 to have a relationship with another human being, 1623 02:02:58,500 --> 02:03:01,250 Now see that's, that was the first time I felt like that 1624 02:03:01,250 --> 02:03:02,625 in my entire life. 1625 02:03:07,959 --> 02:03:09,250 I have a brochure to show you quickly called 1626 02:03:09,250 --> 02:03:12,875 Crossroads centre at Antigua. 1627 02:03:12,875 --> 02:03:15,208 But this... This is an Eric Clapton project, 1628 02:03:15,208 --> 02:03:16,375 what is it? 1629 02:03:16,375 --> 02:03:18,208 For the last three years, I've been trying to start 1630 02:03:18,208 --> 02:03:19,041 a treatment centre in Antigua. 1631 02:03:19,041 --> 02:03:21,208 For addiction? 1632 02:03:21,208 --> 02:03:23,291 For addiction to drugs and alcohol, yeah. 1633 02:03:23,291 --> 02:03:25,625 So are you doing it for people who live 1634 02:03:25,625 --> 02:03:26,875 on the island? 1635 02:03:26,875 --> 02:03:29,000 I'm primarily doing it for people that have no money. 1636 02:03:29,000 --> 02:03:30,667 That need treatment. 1637 02:03:30,667 --> 02:03:36,125 There's 100 guitars here, some of them were with me 1638 02:03:36,125 --> 02:03:38,709 through some really extreme times. 1639 02:03:38,709 --> 02:03:41,375 But I want them to raise a lot of money for the foundation 1640 02:03:41,375 --> 02:03:44,333 and to carry the message of the centre. 1641 02:03:44,333 --> 02:03:46,917 Five hundred thousand out there. 1642 02:03:46,917 --> 02:03:50,166 Six hundred thousand I'm offered. 700,000, 800,000. 1643 02:03:50,166 --> 02:03:52,792 Eight hundred and fifty thousand dollars. 1644 02:03:52,792 --> 02:03:54,000 And sold. 1645 02:03:55,875 --> 02:03:58,083 Music has given me a great life. 1646 02:03:58,083 --> 02:04:01,750 That's never betrayed me, it's never gonna let me down. 1647 02:04:01,750 --> 02:04:04,750 But if it doesn't have the same value as knowing 1648 02:04:04,750 --> 02:04:07,750 that there are people out there that I've helped 1649 02:04:07,750 --> 02:04:09,709 get sober through the treatment centre. 1650 02:04:18,125 --> 02:04:20,750 Let's bring on Hubert Sumlin. 1651 02:04:22,959 --> 02:04:23,750 Please welcome Buddy Guy. 1652 02:04:27,542 --> 02:04:30,166 Put your hands together for the king of the blues. 1653 02:04:30,166 --> 02:04:31,291 B.B. King. 1654 02:04:35,166 --> 02:04:38,208 If he hadn't heard and liked the blues. 1655 02:04:38,208 --> 02:04:40,458 He could just about about retiring from 1656 02:04:40,458 --> 02:04:42,542 the building trade now. 1657 02:04:42,542 --> 02:04:45,291 Having spent his life, laying tiles like his father. 1658 02:04:47,875 --> 02:04:51,291 If you guide yourself into the worst aspects 1659 02:04:51,291 --> 02:04:53,458 of life which he undoubtedly did. 1660 02:04:53,458 --> 02:04:55,250 Nobody pushed him down to the depth 1661 02:04:55,250 --> 02:04:58,291 that he felt he reached at several points. 1662 02:04:58,291 --> 02:04:59,667 And nobody has got him out. 1663 02:05:04,000 --> 02:05:07,250 Now, I mean that is a very powerful personality. 1664 02:05:08,834 --> 02:05:11,166 It doesn't necessarily have to show itself 1665 02:05:11,166 --> 02:05:14,083 in company. 1666 02:05:14,083 --> 02:05:16,667 But it must be there for him to have survived. 1667 02:05:19,458 --> 02:05:22,208 And then I met Melia and fell in love. 1668 02:05:23,208 --> 02:05:25,500 She's everything I ever wanted. 1669 02:05:25,500 --> 02:05:27,083 She's my soul mate. 1670 02:05:27,083 --> 02:05:29,333 She's a beautiful woman, she's a great friend. 1671 02:05:29,333 --> 02:05:32,250 And she's a fantastic mother. 1672 02:05:33,375 --> 02:05:35,333 What more could a man ever want? 1673 02:05:37,750 --> 02:05:41,000 Hello, this is Sophie. 1674 02:05:41,000 --> 02:05:44,291 Here she is. And this is Daddy. 1675 02:05:46,834 --> 02:05:49,458 And this is Ella. 1676 02:05:51,041 --> 02:05:53,583 Here is Mommy. 1677 02:05:54,250 --> 02:05:55,750 And here is me. 1678 02:05:55,750 --> 02:05:57,166 Hi. 1679 02:06:05,500 --> 02:06:08,041 It's everything I did and all the mistakes 1680 02:06:08,041 --> 02:06:10,458 I made and everything that brought me here. 1681 02:06:10,458 --> 02:06:13,375 And it couldn't me much better, really. 1682 02:06:16,667 --> 02:06:19,542 I finally found the family I always wanted. 1683 02:06:20,250 --> 02:06:22,375 And always needed. 1684 02:06:22,375 --> 02:06:25,959 And now here they are, and I'm one of them. 1685 02:06:25,959 --> 02:06:28,125 My life is completely full. 1686 02:06:29,583 --> 02:06:32,166 And I would like to say a toast 1687 02:06:32,667 --> 02:06:33,834 to the Boss. 1688 02:06:36,750 --> 02:06:38,834 Give me a little talking music, will you? 1689 02:06:38,834 --> 02:06:40,166 Robert, please. 1690 02:06:41,417 --> 02:06:43,417 Keep it down, keep it down. 1691 02:06:43,417 --> 02:06:46,417 Ladies and gentlemen, for you, I know that you know 1692 02:06:46,417 --> 02:06:50,125 that Eric is a great artist. 1693 02:06:50,125 --> 02:06:51,375 He flew all the way to California 1694 02:06:51,375 --> 02:06:54,834 to make my first CD. 1695 02:06:54,834 --> 02:06:58,041 Not only did he do that, he's done so many things 1696 02:06:58,041 --> 02:07:01,333 for a lot of us, including this guy. 1697 02:07:01,333 --> 02:07:01,917 So I'd like you to know... 1698 02:07:05,000 --> 02:07:08,458 I'm gonna shut up in a minute, but I'd like you to know. 1699 02:07:08,458 --> 02:07:10,375 That I've been around the world, 1700 02:07:10,375 --> 02:07:12,667 I've played 90 different countries around the world, 1701 02:07:12,667 --> 02:07:13,291 and I've met many people, 1702 02:07:13,291 --> 02:07:14,875 kings and queens. 1703 02:07:14,875 --> 02:07:21,417 But I've never met a better man, a more gracious man 1704 02:07:21,417 --> 02:07:24,291 than my friend, I like to call him my friend, Eric Clapton. 1705 02:07:27,875 --> 02:07:29,917 So I say to all of you... 1706 02:07:34,166 --> 02:07:36,083 May I live forever... 1707 02:07:42,500 --> 02:07:45,709 But may you live forever and a day. 1708 02:07:46,959 --> 02:07:49,959 'Cause I'd hate to be here when you pass away. 1709 02:07:52,542 --> 02:07:55,000 And when they lay me out to rest... 1710 02:07:56,250 --> 02:07:58,792 As I mentioned, I'm 81 now. 1711 02:07:58,792 --> 02:08:02,083 When they lay me out to rest, may the last voices 1712 02:08:02,083 --> 02:08:03,583 I hear be yours. 1713 02:08:05,000 --> 02:08:07,709 Saying while we was alive we was friends. 1714 02:08:19,291 --> 02:08:20,917 [Mainline Florida playing] 1715 02:08:35,792 --> 02:08:39,542 ♪ My heart was leaping in the sun ♪ 1716 02:08:39,542 --> 02:08:43,834 ♪ My friends all say that you're the one ♪ 1717 02:08:43,834 --> 02:08:47,583 ♪ Let me get this one thing very clear ♪ 1718 02:08:47,583 --> 02:08:52,208 ♪ There ain't enough going on down here ♪ 1719 02:08:52,208 --> 02:08:56,417 ♪ Mainline Florida, oh say ♪ 1720 02:09:00,333 --> 02:09:05,250 ♪ Mainline Florida, okay ♪ 1721 02:09:16,834 --> 02:09:20,834 ♪ Her arms were open open wide ♪ 1722 02:09:20,834 --> 02:09:24,792 ♪ Her invitation's a changing tide ♪ 1723 02:09:24,792 --> 02:09:29,667 ♪ I could remember not long ago ♪ 1724 02:09:29,667 --> 02:09:34,458 ♪ We took a cruise down on Hotel Row ♪ 1725 02:09:34,458 --> 02:09:39,125 ♪ Mainline Florida, oh say ♪ 1726 02:09:42,333 --> 02:09:47,250 ♪ Mainline Florida, okay ♪ 1727 02:10:54,834 --> 02:10:57,917 ♪ Her arms were open open wide ♪ 1728 02:10:57,917 --> 02:11:02,709 ♪ Her invitation's a changing tide ♪ 1729 02:11:02,709 --> 02:11:06,583 ♪ I could remember not long ago ♪ 1730 02:11:06,583 --> 02:11:11,333 ♪ We took a cruise down on Hotel Row ♪ 1731 02:11:11,333 --> 02:11:16,291 ♪ Mainline Florida, oh say ♪ 1732 02:11:19,291 --> 02:11:24,250 ♪ Mainline Florida, okay ♪ 1733 02:11:25,500 --> 02:11:28,458 ♪ Hey ♪ 123321

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