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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:07,678 It began when an unknown man from Denmark approached me 2 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:09,080 with a proposition. 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:14,080 This is him in his tiny apartment in the outskirts of Copenhagen. 4 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:17,438 If this was a piece of fiction, 5 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:19,598 no-one would believe that he would be meeting 6 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:21,918 with North Korean arms dealers in Africa... 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,038 You can walk in here no problem. 8 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:26,438 ..or going to the North Korean embassy in Sweden 9 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:28,638 to pick up secret documents. 10 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,918 If something happened, embassy does know nothing about this. 11 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,078 Exactly. 12 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:35,838 But this is no fiction. 13 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,038 Everything you are about to see is real, 14 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,280 and has been going on for more than ten years. 15 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,198 This is him aged 14, somewhere in Denmark. 16 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,398 He is celebrating his birthday. 17 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:52,318 Among the guests are children who grew up 18 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:55,240 in the communist dictatorship East Germany. 19 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,518 Many years later, as a grown man, he will claim that 20 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,358 befriending these kids and learning about the horrors 21 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:08,598 of a totalitarian regime made him decide to infiltrate and expose 22 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:10,960 the most brutal dictatorship of all... 23 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:17,160 ..North Korea. 24 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:27,118 It's a nice explanation, but exactly why he chose to place himself 25 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,078 in mortal danger is also beside the point. 26 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,240 What only matters here is that he is a mole. 27 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:47,598 In the end, I had to hire an expert to help me sort it out. 28 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:51,198 Annie Machon is a contentious figure in the intelligence world, 29 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,158 but this does not concern me. 30 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:57,318 I am only interested in her skills in debriefing agents. 31 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:02,798 So, Annie, the mole arrived last night? 32 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,000 Mm-hm. And soon he's ready for you? 33 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:09,400 Do you have concerns? 34 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:17,640 Maybe...we should discuss that after you have met the mole. 35 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:27,318 Hi, Ulrich. I'm Annie. 36 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,078 Hi, Annie. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you, too. Thank you. 37 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,558 I used to work for the British Security Service, 38 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:36,518 otherwise known as MI5, and part of my job as an intelligence officer 39 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,318 was to debrief agents. 40 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,238 So the film team has asked me in to debrief you 41 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,638 about your life over the last ten years. 42 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:44,758 Yes. 43 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:48,118 Can you tell me a little bit more about him? His background? 44 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:52,918 Erm, you know, if he would rob a bank, 45 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,838 you would not be able to describe him. 46 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:57,760 Mm-hm. Erm... 47 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:03,358 He blends in. He blends in. Perfect. 48 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,558 So, how did you get interested in North Korea? 49 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,320 Oh, it's a long story. 50 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,958 It is a long story, so I will speed it up. 51 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:16,918 Back in 2006, as a journalist from Denmark, I went to North Korea 52 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:20,558 and shot a documentary called The Red Chapel. 53 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,318 The regime in Pyongyang really hated my film, 54 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:27,398 and because of that, I can never travel back to North Korea. 55 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,718 Seen from a western point of view, the film has its moments, 56 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,438 but it does not offer up the smoking gun, 57 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,838 the irrefutable proof that North Korea is an evil 58 00:04:36,840 --> 00:04:38,800 and criminal enterprise. 59 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,238 Ever since, I have been on a quest to prove these points, 60 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,640 yet being forever banned from the Chamber of Secrets. 61 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:53,078 But back in Denmark, the man who I prefer to call the mole saw my film, 62 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,998 and somehow it gave him the idea that he could travel 63 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,120 to North Korea in my place. 64 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:15,158 Approximately ten years ago, out of nowhere, he wrote and asked 65 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:19,278 if I would be interested in doing a film about him 66 00:05:19,280 --> 00:05:24,160 infiltrating the Danish North Korean Friendship Association. 67 00:05:28,840 --> 00:05:30,398 So... I mean, what happened? 68 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:34,078 Can you talk me through exactly the first steps you took in this, 69 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,960 and the sort of thought process you were going through? 70 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:36,878 I told him it could be of interest if it would evolve to something 71 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,038 of international importance, 72 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:43,238 because the Danish North Korean Friendship Association in itself 73 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:47,440 is a fairly depressing group of people. Mm-hm. 74 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,878 He said, "Please keep me posted if it's interesting," 75 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:54,280 and I was like, "OK." 76 00:06:55,920 --> 00:07:00,518 I also told him, "I will never be able to pay you any money," 77 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,718 so that is not of importance for him, 78 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:05,360 and then he just kept on going. 79 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,678 The mole went down the rabbit hole and discovered a bizarre world 80 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:15,158 of Danish senior citizens who are true friends of North Korea. 81 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,160 MAN SPEAKS DANISH 82 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,478 Slowly but surely, the mole advanced in the hierarchy 83 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:23,478 and became a member of the board, 84 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,118 working under chairman Anders Kristensen, 85 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:27,600 a die-hard communist. 86 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,158 Here you have him back in his heyday, meeting with 87 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,758 the founder of North Korea, Eternal President Kim Il-sung, 88 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,480 grandfather of the current ruler, Kim Jong-un. 89 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,718 All the time, the mole was filming, the excuse being that he was 90 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:54,000 making movies for YouTube about his work as a board member. 91 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:19,398 So, how did things progress for you once you were a member, 92 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:20,440 and on the board? 93 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,038 The mole went to North Korea, 94 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,520 and the North Koreans took a liking to him. 95 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:23,518 His main contact person in North Korea was a man named Kang, 96 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,960 who works for the Ministry of Cultural Affairs. 97 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:39,160 Kang is a key person in this tale of deceit and intrigue. 98 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:21,998 Everywhere he went in North Korea, the mole was filming. 99 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,798 Of course, he also brought his camera when he was awarded a medal, 100 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:27,960 recognising his work for the regime. 101 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,280 OK, congratulations. Thank you. 102 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,040 So when did things really start to move? 103 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,800 Could you confirm that this is a photograph of him? 104 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,438 Amongst the friends of the regime in Pyongyang, 105 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,520 Alejandro Cao de Benos is the biggest friend. 106 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:07,878 Compared to a small group 107 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:11,118 such as the Danish North Korean Friendship Association, 108 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:15,038 the Korean Friendship Association is the international lodge 109 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:18,440 for people who consider North Korea to be heaven on Earth. 110 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:23,918 Alejandro Cao de Benos is the founder 111 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,038 of the Korean Friendship Association 112 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:30,360 and is known around the world as the gatekeeper of North Korea. 113 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:37,478 As such, Alejandro Cao de Benos was my tour guide and access ticket 114 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,958 when I travelled to North Korea back in 2006. 115 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:44,718 Here, we are posing for a North Korean newspaper. 116 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:48,638 Spending time with him, I found it hard to understand why Alejandro, 117 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:51,198 who was born in Spain and lives in Spain, 118 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:54,760 has chosen a life as a cheerleader for North Korea. 119 00:11:57,560 --> 00:12:00,838 According to the UN, North Korea starves, abuses 120 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:04,078 and kills its own citizens on a daily basis, 121 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:08,120 but Alejandro Cao de Benos considers all that to be fake news. 122 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:22,798 I also discovered that his preferred foods are French pastry and candies, 123 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:27,318 which is, I guess, the perfect diet for a supervillain. 124 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,200 Do you think Alejandro's dangerous? 125 00:12:43,680 --> 00:12:46,120 APPLAUSE 126 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,398 You're a Spanish aristocrat 127 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,840 representing the North Korean regime. What's in it for you? 128 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,640 APPLAUSE 129 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:22,518 So you meet him in Pyongyang, and then you go back to Europe, 130 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:26,040 and then your second meeting is when you go to Spain. Yeah. 131 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,200 Can you tell me a little bit about that meeting? 132 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,000 So what did Alejandro want from you? 133 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,958 And so the mole began channelling his way through 134 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:01,838 the Korean Friendship Association, hoping to find the secrets 135 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,720 of this global club for friends of Pyongyang. 136 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,958 Advised by me, the mole had a professional cameraman 137 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:54,000 enrolled in KFA Denmark as his personal assistant. 138 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,280 Is Alejandro aware of the personal aspects of your life? 139 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:16,758 A lot of time because, in his real life, the mole is a retired chef 140 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,438 who lives on welfare subsidies from the government 141 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:21,558 because of some sort of chronic disease 142 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:23,438 which prevents him from working. 143 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,478 He is married with children and resides in the suburbs 144 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:30,238 of Copenhagen, living a seemingly normal life. 145 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,560 As such, he is the best mole you could ever want. 146 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,240 MUSIC PLAYS 147 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,120 That's quite a quick leap up. 148 00:19:19,120 --> 00:19:21,600 So what were your responsibilities in that? 149 00:19:31,360 --> 00:19:34,320 This is Ulrich out of Copenhagen. Here's what he had to say. 150 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,678 So, Andre, he's really picking up on that theme 151 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,240 that Dermot had about a smear against North Korea. 152 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:23,078 Do you happen to know if he's told his wife what he was doing? 153 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:24,680 I don't think so. Mm. 154 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,840 What did your wife say when you went home smelling of that strange scent? 155 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:13,040 Mm-hm. 156 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,600 LINE RINGS 157 00:22:09,360 --> 00:22:12,960 Why does Alejandro like the mole? What does he see in the mole? 158 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:24,078 Alejandro Cao de Benos begins putting pressure on the mole. 159 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,718 He wants him to source for businessmen who will invest 160 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,198 in North Korea. 161 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:33,638 So the main part, really, is raising business and investment. Yeah. 162 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:37,318 In a debriefing filmed in Denmark back in 2013, 163 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:41,878 the mole was already talking about KFA president Alejandro Cao de Benos 164 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,200 wanting him to find investors. 165 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,438 But investing in North Korea is tricky business 166 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,958 because of the tough UN sanctions 167 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,078 levelled against the cash-starved regime. 168 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,398 NEWSREEL: The new sanctions include a ban on exports of 169 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:18,398 North Korean goods such as machinery and electrical equipment. 170 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,558 Since no-one in their right mind would throw money at North Korea, 171 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:26,678 I decided to invent a fake investor in order for the mole to find out 172 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,678 what exactly Alejandro Cao de Benos had in mind. 173 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:34,080 I forgot to mention there is another person involved in this. 174 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,598 That person is Mr James. 175 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,118 His real name is Jim, 176 00:23:40,120 --> 00:23:43,878 and he was chosen by me to perform the role as Mr James, 177 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,040 a man of international mystery. 178 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:51,118 In real life, Jim is a former member of the French Foreign Legion 179 00:23:51,120 --> 00:23:56,120 who later went on to become a jetset cocaine pusher in Copenhagen. 180 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,158 In the end, he was caught and served eight years in jail, 181 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,440 and now works and lives as a legitimate businessman. 182 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:08,200 In my mind, he was tailor-made for extreme role-playing. 183 00:24:16,360 --> 00:24:19,798 So I had the mole invite Alejandro to come to Oslo in Norway 15983

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