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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:30,664 --> 00:00:32,542 It was early in the morning 2 00:00:32,566 --> 00:00:34,244 on the streets of Philadelphia. 3 00:00:34,268 --> 00:00:36,045 It was freezing cold. 4 00:00:36,069 --> 00:00:39,115 And I just started to feel something welling inside. 5 00:00:39,139 --> 00:00:40,750 And they go, "Sly, are you ready?" 6 00:00:40,774 --> 00:00:43,119 I go, "I'm not. 7 00:00:43,143 --> 00:00:44,143 "But Rocky is." 8 00:01:32,159 --> 00:01:36,306 I was a complete unknown, even unknown to myself. 9 00:01:36,330 --> 00:01:37,640 And I had this idea. 10 00:01:37,664 --> 00:01:41,344 A lot of peo 11 00:01:41,368 --> 00:01:43,608 e were feeling kind of the way I was, going nowhere fast. 12 00:01:43,870 --> 00:01:46,473 And I didn't know whether I had it or not. 13 00:01:49,543 --> 00:01:52,388 So I wrote this story about an underdog, 14 00:01:52,412 --> 00:01:54,824 a person who wasn't very appreciated, 15 00:01:54,848 --> 00:01:59,262 and I was 16 00:01:59,286 --> 00:02:02,732 ven a break by United Artist and now, you had to put up or shut up, 17 00:02:02,756 --> 00:02:05,568 so I couldn't believe my good fortune 18 00:02:05,592 --> 00:02:08,371 and every day we'd go to the studio 19 00:02:08,395 --> 00:02:10,206 and work on the script a little bit. 20 00:02:10,230 --> 00:02:13,843 Of course, I had a bit of an odd personality I guess. 21 00:02:13,867 --> 00:02:17,614 Maybe I was born 22 00:02:17,638 --> 00:02:20,216 o play this part, I don't know, but it just seemed to fit into all the things 23 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,376 that I sort of believed in. 24 00:02:24,911 --> 00:02:26,723 Anyway, we started working on 25 00:02:26,747 --> 00:02:29,492 experimental ideas about boxing. 26 00:02:29,516 --> 00:02:31,394 There had been many boxing films like, 27 00:02:31,418 --> 00:02:34,697 maybe over 300 made in Hollywood 28 00:02:34,721 --> 00:02:36,766 and they weren't very successful so 29 00:02:36,790 --> 00:02:38,768 I couldn't believe my good luck here 30 00:02:38,792 --> 00:02:42,338 when they're doing a boxing film about this character. 31 00:02:42,362 --> 00:02:46,275 But the point is, it wasn't a boxing film. 32 00:02:46,299 --> 00:02:50,446 It was a story about obsolescence, 33 00:02:50,470 --> 00:02:53,149 about not getting an opportunity in life, 34 00:02:53,173 --> 00:02:55,333 and more importantly, eventually, a serious love story. 35 00:02:57,844 --> 00:03:00,356 And he happens to be a boxer. 36 00:03:00,380 --> 00:03:02,325 So the relationship comes a little bit later on 37 00:03:02,349 --> 00:03:04,284 but it's the key to the whole movie. 38 00:03:10,724 --> 00:03:12,368 John Avildsen in the background. 39 00:03:12,392 --> 00:03:14,203 He always took these, he's driving me crazy 40 00:03:14,227 --> 00:03:15,738 with these eight millimeter films 41 00:03:15,762 --> 00:03:17,707 but here we are, so I'm glad he did it. 42 00:03:17,731 --> 00:03:21,644 But at the time I thought, what a waste of film. 43 00:03:21,668 --> 00:03:24,480 Now, Mike Westmore, who was a great, great, great 44 00:03:24,504 --> 00:03:26,816 makeup artist, part of the Westmore family, 45 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:28,951 he started doing all of the experiments. 46 00:03:28,975 --> 00:03:31,411 Here again, I'm just overdoing everything. 47 00:03:32,512 --> 00:03:34,390 Makeup tests. 48 00:03:34,414 --> 00:03:37,894 And it was great, but I ended up with barely any eyebrows 49 00:03:37,918 --> 00:03:41,431 left the rest of my life, so there is that. 50 00:03:41,455 --> 00:03:43,933 At one time I actually wanted Rocky to look 51 00:03:43,957 --> 00:03:45,835 very, very punchy and I thought, 52 00:03:45,859 --> 00:03:48,771 why don't you glue my nose to the side of my face? 53 00:03:48,795 --> 00:03:51,941 So they got this kind of colostomy bad glue 54 00:03:51,965 --> 00:03:54,711 and it was so bad, it looked like a cartoon, 55 00:03:54,735 --> 00:03:57,547 like I had run into a wall like Gumby. 56 00:03:57,571 --> 00:03:59,931 So anyway as you can see, I took things to kind of extremes. 57 00:04:02,476 --> 00:04:05,612 I mean, it looks like a lost clam. 58 00:04:13,653 --> 00:04:15,531 We got lucky with Burgess Meredith 59 00:04:15,555 --> 00:04:19,569 who was a world class actor with 50 years experience 60 00:04:19,593 --> 00:04:21,738 and he took it very serious. 61 00:04:21,762 --> 00:04:24,974 He was f 62 00:04:24,998 --> 00:04:28,344 tastic and developed his characterthat was based on a real character 63 00:04:28,368 --> 00:04:30,580 and he had all the mannerisms. 64 00:04:30,604 --> 00:04:31,748 'Cause I did real good last night, 65 00:04:31,772 --> 00:04:32,982 and you should've seen me. 66 00:04:33,006 --> 00:04:34,283 Big deal. 67 00:04:34,307 --> 00:04:35,718 You should've seen me, too. 68 00:04:35,742 --> 00:04:37,353 Hey, kid. 69 00:04:37,377 --> 00:04:39,021 You ever think about retiring? 70 00:04:39,045 --> 00:04:40,389 No. 71 00:04:40,413 --> 00:04:41,891 You think about it. 72 00:04:41,915 --> 00:04:42,959 My friend Stan Shaw in the back. 73 00:04:42,983 --> 00:04:44,560 Great guy. 74 00:04:50,824 --> 00:04:52,735 I didn't know anything. 75 00:04:52,759 --> 00:04:56,439 You know, I talked a good game like, yeah, I'm a good boxer. 76 00:04:56,463 --> 00:04:59,366 I didn't know how to box anything, except maybe oranges. 77 00:05:00,066 --> 00:05:01,935 But I was willing to try. 78 00:05:05,739 --> 00:05:07,859 The character was not supposed to be a gifted fighter. 79 00:05:10,510 --> 00:05:12,722 He was gifted in other ways. 80 00:05:12,746 --> 00:05:15,758 He just could take an incredible amount of punishment, 81 00:05:15,782 --> 00:05:18,294 and he was fighting for an ideal. 82 00:05:18,318 --> 00:05:20,897 He had no allusions that he was a winner, 83 00:05:20,921 --> 00:05:23,089 he just wanted an opportunity. 84 00:05:28,762 --> 00:05:31,874 Then we came across this amazing guy, Carl Weathers, 85 00:05:31,898 --> 00:05:35,545 the gr 86 00:05:35,569 --> 00:05:37,346 test film boxer of all time. 87 00:05:37,370 --> 00:05:38,981 This man could move. 88 00:05:39,005 --> 00:05:42,685 Well, he was a world class athlete and a great actor, 89 00:05:42,709 --> 00:05:44,611 but God, could he move. 90 00:05:48,014 --> 00:05:50,726 This is us really beginning to figure it out. 91 00:05:50,750 --> 00:05:53,496 There was a situation happening. 92 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,998 They had hired a choreographer 93 00:05:56,022 --> 00:05:59,969 and the choreographer was used to doing old-fashioned films 94 00:05:59,993 --> 00:06:03,005 like you hit me, I hit you, you hit me, I hit you. 95 00:06:03,029 --> 00:06:07,710 And that's what was normally done in a closeup of two guys 96 00:06:07,734 --> 00:06:10,012 just sort of, as we say, shoe-shining. 97 00:06:10,036 --> 00:06:12,415 One-two, one-two, one-two, one-two. 98 00:06:12,439 --> 00:06:15,117 And I thought you know, let's try to do something different. 99 00:06:15,141 --> 00:06:17,053 Look who just popped up. 100 00:06:17,077 --> 00:06:18,688 My brother. 101 00:06:18,712 --> 00:06:20,857 He was a great singer, is a great singer, 102 00:06:20,881 --> 00:06:23,960 and I thought well, since I can't afford anyone else, 103 00:06:23,984 --> 00:06:25,027 I'll use him. 104 00:06:25,051 --> 00:06:26,829 ♪ I said I been told by ♪ 105 00:06:26,853 --> 00:06:28,464 ♪ Do do do do ♪ 106 00:06:28,488 --> 00:06:30,700 ♪ Some people and they all ♪ 107 00:06:30,724 --> 00:06:32,869 Now here's him in the ring, 108 00:06:32,893 --> 00:06:35,571 really showing his love and appreciation for the job. 109 00:06:35,595 --> 00:06:38,808 Appreciate it, like start tackling me, knocking me down. 110 00:06:38,832 --> 00:06:40,543 Of course I'm trying to make him feel good here 111 00:06:40,567 --> 00:06:42,135 by getting a concussion. 112 00:06:47,107 --> 00:06:50,386 Back to Carl, he's improving a great deal. 113 00:06:50,410 --> 00:06:52,121 And I said to the stunt coordinator, 114 00:06:52,145 --> 00:06:53,723 I said, "Why doesn't Carl come out 115 00:06:53,747 --> 00:06:55,057 "and hit me like four jabs on the right? 116 00:06:55,081 --> 00:06:56,792 He goes, "That isn't the way it is." 117 00:06:56,816 --> 00:06:58,628 I said, "Well how about three jabs on the right?" 118 00:06:58,652 --> 00:07:00,596 He goes, "No, just follow my thing." 119 00:07:00,620 --> 00:07:03,766 I said, "Well, I wanna see something different." 120 00:07:03,790 --> 00:07:04,934 He goes, "Okay. 121 00:07:04,958 --> 00:07:06,068 "I quit." 122 00:07:06,092 --> 00:07:08,537 So he left, and I was stuck, 123 00:07:08,561 --> 00:07:12,608 and Irwin looked at me like hey, who are you to... 124 00:07:12,632 --> 00:07:14,710 Well this is the guy actually right before he left. 125 00:07:14,734 --> 00:07:17,546 His name was I think Stackler or something like that. 126 00:07:17,570 --> 00:07:19,181 Nice guy, but he had his 127 00:07:19,205 --> 00:07:21,117 old-fashioned way of doing something, 128 00:07:21,141 --> 00:07:25,121 and I wanted it to look as close to real as possible, 129 00:07:25,145 --> 00:07:27,089 and usually boxing films, 130 00:07:27,113 --> 00:07:31,494 the actors really were not in any kind of great shape 131 00:07:31,518 --> 00:07:33,529 and they didn't work any kind of choreography, 132 00:07:33,553 --> 00:07:36,065 it was sort of done on the fly. 133 00:07:36,089 --> 00:07:37,733 You hit me, I hit you, 134 00:07:37,757 --> 00:07:39,468 and no one was ever in really excellent shape 135 00:07:39,492 --> 00:07:41,871 so we started writing it up. 136 00:07:41,895 --> 00:07:44,907 The director said hey, why don't you write it out? 137 00:07:44,931 --> 00:07:47,810 And I thought okay, you mean like a dance? 138 00:07:47,834 --> 00:07:49,202 Absolutely like a dance. 139 00:07:51,604 --> 00:07:53,683 Then we hired Jimmy Nickerson 140 00:07:53,707 --> 00:07:56,485 and he got in some semi-pros here 141 00:07:56,509 --> 00:07:59,488 who blocked out the actual real boxing 142 00:07:59,512 --> 00:08:01,023 and I would study it and go 143 00:08:01,047 --> 00:08:03,550 that's believable, that's believable. 144 00:08:05,986 --> 00:08:08,064 And then I started to borrow things from the world's greatest fights 145 00:08:08,088 --> 00:08:11,934 and condense them into moments in our film. 146 00:08:11,958 --> 00:08:14,070 So everything you've ever seen in Rocky 147 00:08:14,094 --> 00:08:15,671 has actually happened before. 148 00:08:15,695 --> 00:08:17,673 In the back there's famous Gene LeBell, 149 00:08:17,697 --> 00:08:20,867 world famous stuntman and Judo champion. 150 00:08:24,270 --> 00:08:26,215 This is all practice footage, 151 00:08:26,239 --> 00:08:27,984 and he's working on Jimmy Nickerson 152 00:08:28,008 --> 00:08:30,853 who insists on him actually hitting him a lot, 153 00:08:30,877 --> 00:08:33,489 which I don't know what was going through Jimmy's head. 154 00:08:33,513 --> 00:08:35,081 He actually did get knocked out. 155 00:08:36,216 --> 00:08:39,061 There's Gene LeBell practicing. 156 00:08:39,085 --> 00:08:41,130 He's overacting as his 157 00:08:41,154 --> 00:08:43,065 as a referee. 158 00:08:43,089 --> 00:08:45,835 I never 159 00:08:45,859 --> 00:08:47,699 w a referee get into a full squat, but why not? 160 00:08:50,964 --> 00:08:53,843 This is footage that was never seen in the movie. 161 00:08:53,867 --> 00:08:55,578 It was supposed to be in the movie. 162 00:08:55,602 --> 00:08:59,682 Rocky is watching Apollo knock all these people out. 163 00:08:59,706 --> 00:09:01,917 Mickey is going, "You don't have a chance," basically. 164 00:09:01,941 --> 00:09:04,720 This is a real fighter named Sonny Shields, 165 00:09:04,744 --> 00:09:08,124 father of the world class fighter named Randy Shields. 166 00:09:08,148 --> 00:09:10,192 He thought Carl was just an actor, 167 00:09:10,216 --> 00:09:14,096 I said he's a powerful man, and he blasted him, 168 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,157 and eventually knocked him down again, for real. 169 00:09:21,094 --> 00:09:24,106 We never used this footage, which is unfortunate. 170 00:09:24,130 --> 00:09:25,875 It was a work in progress. 171 00:09:25,899 --> 00:09:30,079 So in between setups, I would constantly be re-writing 172 00:09:30,103 --> 00:09:32,782 and re-writing 173 00:09:32,806 --> 00:09:35,684 and trying to make this thing work 174 00:09:35,708 --> 00:09:38,320 for the budget that we had, which was nothing. 175 00:09:38,344 --> 00:09:40,856 And our locations were pretty, 176 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:42,658 you know, pretty sparse. 177 00:09:42,682 --> 00:09:46,252 But you know, I think that worked out for the best. 178 00:09:51,057 --> 00:09:53,135 I hadn't figured out Rocky's color combination, 179 00:09:53,159 --> 00:09:55,199 so this is just us practicing basically choreography 180 00:09:58,131 --> 00:10:00,209 and makeup tests. 181 00:10:00,233 --> 00:10:02,711 And you can see like the ropes hanging on the ground. 182 00:10:02,735 --> 00:10:04,113 This was again, just for us, 183 00:10:04,137 --> 00:10:06,715 too much smoke or too much makeup, 184 00:10:06,739 --> 00:10:07,817 we were trying to figure out. 185 00:10:07,841 --> 00:10:09,585 Like this. 186 00:10:09,609 --> 00:10:11,120 Hey, anybody want a hamburger? 187 00:10:11,144 --> 00:10:12,144 How you doin'? 188 00:10:13,346 --> 00:10:15,591 Like, little bit of overacting 189 00:10:15,615 --> 00:10:17,917 putting the cart in front of the horse here. 190 00:10:22,722 --> 00:10:25,000 I think Carl again, this was mostly a makeup test. 191 00:10:25,024 --> 00:10:26,302 This place was freezing by the way, 192 00:10:26,326 --> 00:10:28,761 it was in the dead of winter, so. 193 00:10:30,763 --> 00:10:34,910 It was not conducive to moving around a lot. 194 00:10:34,934 --> 00:10:37,146 But again, we did what we could 195 00:10:37,170 --> 00:10:39,806 because we were borrowing the Olympic Auditorium. 196 00:10:43,076 --> 00:10:45,721 And we're seeing how close we could get with the punches. 197 00:10:45,745 --> 00:10:47,890 Those are actual eight ounce gloves 198 00:10:47,914 --> 00:10:49,925 that are not doctored up, 199 00:10:49,949 --> 00:10:52,852 and when you get hit with them, it's... 200 00:10:54,020 --> 00:10:58,033 My eye is closed, your depth perception 201 00:10:58,057 --> 00:10:59,735 is way off. 202 00:10:59,759 --> 00:11:03,139 So this is what these rehearsals helped with, 203 00:11:03,163 --> 00:11:05,665 figuring out what works and what doesn't work. 204 00:11:10,069 --> 00:11:11,380 There's my father. 205 00:11:11,404 --> 00:11:14,783 We're sitting around before the film 206 00:11:14,807 --> 00:11:18,954 kind of figuring out theúlogistics with the set designer 207 00:11:18,978 --> 00:11:21,824 and it was great to be part of all of this. 208 00:11:21,848 --> 00:11:24,226 I didn't know what I was doing, but it sounded good 209 00:11:24,250 --> 00:11:25,861 and it looked good. 210 00:11:25,885 --> 00:11:28,864 And we were pretty passionate about it. 211 00:11:28,888 --> 00:11:30,266 But really there's something good 212 00:11:30,290 --> 00:11:31,967 about not knowing everything, 213 00:11:31,991 --> 00:11:35,104 you're just throwing yourself headlong into it. 214 00:11:35,128 --> 00:11:38,073 Made my father the bell ringer, that was interesting. 215 00:11:38,097 --> 00:11:40,176 He'd always ring the bell about 20 seconds late 216 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,044 and I would take a beating. 217 00:11:42,068 --> 00:11:44,871 And I kept going, is this kind of Freudian by any chance? 218 00:11:46,306 --> 00:11:49,709 That's me wearing my incredibly expensive York shirt. 219 00:11:50,910 --> 00:11:53,222 Kind of hung up on the tank tops at the time, 220 00:11:53,246 --> 00:11:54,246 I don't know why. 221 00:12:02,255 --> 00:12:04,800 Storyboards are something I'd never seen before. 222 00:12:04,824 --> 00:12:06,402 It was very interesting. 223 00:12:06,426 --> 00:12:09,205 It was laid out what we were supposed to do. 224 00:12:09,229 --> 00:12:11,907 This whole kind of ritual of two men 225 00:12:11,931 --> 00:12:13,776 getting ready to face one another, 226 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,145 Rocky being incredibly inferior 227 00:12:16,169 --> 00:12:20,306 and Carl, or Apollo Creed, just taking it as another day 228 00:12:21,774 --> 00:12:24,920 in the life of a champion, no big deal. 229 00:12:24,944 --> 00:12:26,989 But all these maneuvers here like the Vick's 230 00:12:27,013 --> 00:12:29,024 and the greasing up, this is pretty much 231 00:12:29,048 --> 00:12:32,185 what we were taught by authentic trainers. 232 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,398 Rocky knows he's basically going to get slaughtered 233 00:12:36,422 --> 00:12:39,802 so he's just praying he doesn't get hurt too much. 234 00:12:39,826 --> 00:12:42,137 And Carl, this is the first time we actually see him 235 00:12:42,161 --> 00:12:44,964 get serious in the film as Apollo Creed. 236 00:12:48,401 --> 00:12:49,912 You won't believe this camera. 237 00:12:49,936 --> 00:12:51,804 This is so gigantic. 238 00:12:53,339 --> 00:12:56,785 Everything we had was, I don't know, 239 00:12:56,809 --> 00:12:58,754 just scraping things together. 240 00:12:58,778 --> 00:13:02,458 This gigantic camera, that we had to lash to the car. 241 00:13:02,482 --> 00:13:04,250 They don't even exist anymore. 242 00:13:11,090 --> 00:13:13,002 This fella here, his name was Jimmy Gambina, 243 00:13:13,026 --> 00:13:15,471 he was also a trainer, his father's a trainer, 244 00:13:15,495 --> 00:13:17,139 and I thought I'd put him in a movie 245 00:13:17,163 --> 00:13:19,308 'cause he was really some kind of character. 246 00:13:19,332 --> 00:13:20,909 And it worked out. 247 00:13:20,933 --> 00:13:22,044 Don't you think you oughta take a rest? 248 00:13:22,068 --> 00:13:23,278 No, my back is hurt. 249 00:13:23,302 --> 00:13:24,179 Your back? 250 00:13:24,203 --> 00:13:24,981 My back is hurt. 251 00:13:25,005 --> 00:13:26,148 You deaf? 252 00:13:26,172 --> 00:13:27,173 No, I'm short. 253 00:13:30,810 --> 00:13:32,354 As I was getting prepared again, 254 00:13:32,378 --> 00:13:35,114 me being very mature between takes, 255 00:13:37,483 --> 00:13:39,895 this is how I prepare for a movie, by chasing Adrian with a meat cleaver. 256 00:13:39,919 --> 00:13:43,565 You think it's a little odd perhaps. 257 00:13:43,589 --> 00:13:45,801 We tried to keep it loose. 258 00:13:45,825 --> 00:13:49,038 It was a lot of fun in a way, and I tend to 259 00:13:49,062 --> 00:13:51,062 ot want to walk around all moody, and I just try to 260 00:13:54,434 --> 00:13:56,478 keep it relaxed 'cause if you're relaxed, 261 00:13:56,502 --> 00:13:58,414 the rest of the crew is relaxed. 262 00:13:58,438 --> 00:14:00,282 And then you turn it on when you have to, 263 00:14:00,306 --> 00:14:03,886 so you can see me with Joe Spinell who played Mr. Gazzo 264 00:14:03,910 --> 00:14:06,422 and John Avildsen, makeup man Mike Westmore, 265 00:14:06,446 --> 00:14:08,481 and we're just having a good time. 266 00:14:10,917 --> 00:14:12,961 That hat was a real bone of contention. 267 00:14:12,985 --> 00:14:14,997 Nobody wanted me to wear the hat. 268 00:14:15,021 --> 00:14:16,965 They wanted me to just be, you know, bareheaded. 269 00:14:16,989 --> 00:14:18,500 I go, 270 00:14:18,524 --> 00:14:20,269 So there was a store there and I bought the hat, 271 00:14:20,293 --> 00:14:21,937 there's the director's children, 272 00:14:21,961 --> 00:14:23,972 bought that hat for like $3 273 00:14:23,996 --> 00:14:26,008 and I wanna wear the hat. 274 00:14:26,032 --> 00:14:27,476 And the producer goes, "You can't wear this hat." 275 00:14:27,500 --> 00:14:28,378 and I go, "Why?" 276 00:14:28,402 --> 00:14:30,045 He says, "Because, 277 00:14:30,069 --> 00:14:32,014 "Gene Hackman wore it in French Connection." 278 00:14:32,038 --> 00:14:33,916 I says, "So, that's the end of hats? 279 00:14:33,940 --> 00:14:35,451 "So, hats are banned?" 280 00:14:35,475 --> 00:14:37,953 I said, "It kind of tops off the character." 281 00:14:37,977 --> 00:14:41,423 And I just went ahead and used the hat. 282 00:14:41,447 --> 00:14:43,092 I'd never seen a hat like it, 283 00:14:43,116 --> 00:14:45,227 it was like this cheap, felt, cardboard hat, 284 00:14:45,251 --> 00:14:47,930 but it just worked perfectly, 285 00:14:47,954 --> 00:14:50,899 and I think made a great impression on the character. 286 00:14:50,923 --> 00:14:54,470 I think it just set the whole thing like a suit of armor. 287 00:14:54,494 --> 00:14:58,440 It was a costume that he was sort of hiding behind. 288 00:14:58,464 --> 00:15:00,375 And then when you see him put on the glasses 289 00:15:00,399 --> 00:15:03,312 like they should realize, he's not this real tough specimen, 290 00:15:03,336 --> 00:15:06,305 he's kind of nerdy in a way. 291 00:15:10,109 --> 00:15:14,580 Yeah, this is us in between takes, just hanging out. 292 00:15:16,916 --> 00:15:18,594 This is a scene that was amazing. 293 00:15:18,618 --> 00:15:20,529 I wrote it for 300 extras. 294 00:15:20,553 --> 00:15:24,366 And Adrian was s 295 00:15:24,390 --> 00:15:27,136 posed to be taken out on the ice by this incredible ice skater and he's showing off 296 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:28,904 and I'm sort of humiliated 297 00:15:28,928 --> 00:15:33,208 and then I get into sort of a beef with the fella. 298 00:15:33,232 --> 00:15:34,977 I show up on the set, they said, 299 00:15:35,001 --> 00:15:37,179 "Well, we've had to cut the extras back a little bit." 300 00:15:37,203 --> 00:15:38,114 I go, "To what?" 301 00:15:38,138 --> 00:15:39,414 He goes, "To none." 302 00:15:39,438 --> 00:15:40,516 You're kidding me! 303 00:15:40,540 --> 00:15:42,651 How about a heads up? 304 00:15:42,675 --> 00:15:46,088 So I went back and I started re-writing immediately 305 00:15:46,112 --> 00:15:50,325 and, well, the proof is in the pudding. 306 00:15:50,349 --> 00:15:52,961 It became just the two of us on the ice 307 00:15:52,985 --> 00:15:57,499 and since I can't ice skate, Rocky runs alongside of her. 308 00:15:57,523 --> 00:15:59,568 That's George Memmoli who was a great character, 309 00:15:59,592 --> 00:16:01,303 actor and a friend, 310 00:16:01,327 --> 00:16:04,239 and it turned out to be a thousand times better 311 00:16:04,263 --> 00:16:07,009 if there had been a big, big crowd here. 312 00:16:07,033 --> 00:16:11,213 So, again, taking the negative and making it a positive. 313 00:16:11,237 --> 00:16:13,248 Got very lucky on that day. 314 00:16:13,272 --> 00:16:17,052 But that scene sort of set the tone for Rocky's first date. 315 00:16:17,076 --> 00:16:20,222 He wasn't used to you know, being very... 316 00:16:20,246 --> 00:16:22,224 Well we'll just say sophisticated, 317 00:16:22,248 --> 00:16:26,328 but I think that was part of his charm was his honesty. 318 00:16:26,352 --> 00:16:28,063 No it's okay, it's okay. 319 00:16:28,087 --> 00:16:29,631 Hey listen, are you closed to the general public, 320 00:16:29,655 --> 00:16:31,936 or are you just closed to everybody, you know what I mean? 321 00:16:33,559 --> 00:16:36,405 You can see here, we really struggling. 322 00:16:36,429 --> 00:16:40,709 She was not exactly you know, Ice Capades either. 323 00:16:40,733 --> 00:16:42,311 We're just struggling out there which I thought 324 00:16:42,335 --> 00:16:45,147 kind of reflected on who they were, too. 325 00:16:45,171 --> 00:16:50,185 It's like, neither one of them is very graceful in life. 326 00:16:50,209 --> 00:16:54,156 But together, they're a perfect fit, they really really are. 327 00:16:54,180 --> 00:16:57,326 I almost b 328 00:16:57,350 --> 00:16:59,061 ke my neck on this about 10 times. This turned out to be very, very good. 329 00:16:59,085 --> 00:17:01,563 You can see where John's rehearsals 330 00:17:01,587 --> 00:17:04,633 were absolutely duplicated in reality, 331 00:17:04,657 --> 00:17:06,158 so it was a perfect thing. 332 00:17:07,426 --> 00:17:09,795 I tell you, things get pretty rough in the rink. 333 00:17:13,266 --> 00:17:17,145 Again, this is the makeup with Mike Westmore 334 00:17:17,169 --> 00:17:18,647 and we'd be running lines here. 335 00:17:18,671 --> 00:17:21,350 So we've hit the ground running. 336 00:17:21,374 --> 00:17:23,652 I like to learn a lot of dialogue 337 00:17:23,676 --> 00:17:26,388 a long time before the production 338 00:17:26,412 --> 00:17:29,725 so you can let it go and ad lib 339 00:17:29,749 --> 00:17:31,627 and then come back to the script. 340 00:17:31,651 --> 00:17:35,564 And Burgess, who's a classically trained actor and I wasn't, 341 00:17:35,588 --> 00:17:37,733 was totally on board with that. 342 00:17:37,757 --> 00:17:40,235 And he was just fantastic. 343 00:17:40,259 --> 00:17:43,105 He's really a consummate performer. 344 00:17:43,129 --> 00:17:44,573 I didn't realize it at the time 345 00:17:44,597 --> 00:17:46,208 'cause I had never worked with anyone that good, 346 00:17:46,232 --> 00:17:49,669 but now, as I reflect on it, one of the greatest. 347 00:17:52,371 --> 00:17:55,217 This was an actual apartment, believe it or not, 348 00:17:55,241 --> 00:17:59,087 and I thought we should add some things that are a bit odd, 349 00:17:59,111 --> 00:18:02,391 like a mattress stuck to the wall full of bayonets. 350 00:18:02,415 --> 00:18:05,227 Don't explain it, just, that's the way he lives. 351 00:18:05,251 --> 00:18:07,687 And a bowl full of turtles and so on. 352 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,545 We couldn't afford a hose to wet down the street, 353 00:18:23,569 --> 00:18:25,671 so we'd do it by buckets. 354 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:31,186 Rocky solidifies his relationship with Mickey 355 00:18:31,210 --> 00:18:34,489 after a tempestuous brawl a few moments earlier 356 00:18:34,513 --> 00:18:37,693 where he just unloaded on Mickey about being ignored. 357 00:18:37,717 --> 00:18:39,261 But that's what made the character, 358 00:18:39,285 --> 00:18:40,796 he's just always forgiving. 359 00:18:40,820 --> 00:18:44,700 This 360 00:18:44,724 --> 00:18:46,635 s my friend Gene Kirkwood, he was very, very important in having the film actually made. 361 00:18:46,659 --> 00:18:49,128 And Burt Young, who was fantastic. 362 00:18:54,667 --> 00:18:58,814 We start in Philadelphia and we end up here, this is L.A., 363 00:18:58,838 --> 00:19:02,284 running along the side of the meat packing place. 364 00:19:02,308 --> 00:19:04,308 I don't know exactly why I wrote in a slider house, 365 00:19:07,179 --> 00:19:10,492 but it was just an idea. 366 00:19:10,516 --> 00:19:14,396 Like boxers are considered meat, you know, 367 00:19:14,420 --> 00:19:17,232 we don't think of them as you know, 368 00:19:17,256 --> 00:19:19,601 regular human beings, but they are. 369 00:19:19,625 --> 00:19:20,902 They have a lot of heart and soul, 370 00:19:20,926 --> 00:19:23,705 they're not just flesh to be hit upon. 371 00:19:23,729 --> 00:19:27,209 And so that was somewhat a symbolic move, 372 00:19:27,233 --> 00:19:29,635 a little heavy-handed but I think it worked. 373 00:19:34,407 --> 00:19:37,786 And here we are outside. 374 00:19:37,810 --> 00:19:41,690 Yeah, with my dog Butkus which was actually my dog 375 00:19:41,714 --> 00:19:45,193 and I thought Rocky and the dog looked very much alike, 376 00:19:45,217 --> 00:19:47,162 so I wanted him in the movie. 377 00:19:47,186 --> 00:19:49,531 And I thought it again added a little bit of character 378 00:19:49,555 --> 00:19:52,491 to who Rocky was, and it was a gift from Adrian. 379 00:19:55,361 --> 00:19:57,839 This is a scene that was made up on the spot. 380 00:19:57,863 --> 00:19:59,574 What's that, Butkus? 381 00:19:59,598 --> 00:20:00,675 Whose truck is this? 382 00:20:00,699 --> 00:20:02,177 Come on. 383 00:20:02,201 --> 00:20:03,745 I was supposed to just be in there. 384 00:20:03,769 --> 00:20:05,914 I thought, you know, it'd be great if he just shows up 385 00:20:05,938 --> 00:20:08,617 and there's Burt saying, "Hey, hope you don't mind, 386 00:20:08,641 --> 00:20:11,553 "I called your television network, 387 00:20:11,577 --> 00:20:14,556 "and I'm basically here to embarrass you." 388 00:20:14,580 --> 00:20:16,558 And of course, Rocky takes it in stride 389 00:20:16,582 --> 00:20:19,618 and goes along with it 'cause he's that kind of a guy. 390 00:20:25,491 --> 00:20:26,568 This place was so magical. 391 00:20:26,592 --> 00:20:28,503 I mean just these streets, 392 00:20:28,527 --> 00:20:30,939 I go back there every now and then. 393 00:20:30,963 --> 00:20:32,641 It's amazing. 394 00:20:32,665 --> 00:20:35,277 They're so small, so narrow, so claustrophobic, 395 00:20:35,301 --> 00:20:38,413 the terrain is just so graphically interesting. 396 00:20:38,437 --> 00:20:39,437 Yo. 397 00:20:40,606 --> 00:20:42,284 Yo. 398 00:20:42,308 --> 00:20:43,852 Yo, you look great. 399 00:20:43,876 --> 00:20:46,788 And then, right here, this is where she just exploded. 400 00:20:46,812 --> 00:20:49,591 I mean, she became Cinderella. 401 00:20:49,615 --> 00:20:51,460 This is what he saw. 402 00:20:51,484 --> 00:20:53,595 When he's here to pesh up, everyone else saw this homely, 403 00:20:53,619 --> 00:20:55,430 very, very shy woman. 404 00:20:55,454 --> 00:20:58,800 He saw really a beautiful person, inside and out. 405 00:20:58,824 --> 00:21:01,727 And she really sold it in that moment. 406 00:21:04,363 --> 00:21:05,664 This is the game changer. 407 00:21:06,966 --> 00:21:08,777 This man's name is Garrett Brown, he's an inventor, 408 00:21:08,801 --> 00:21:11,813 he lives in Philadelphia and just out of luck, 409 00:21:11,837 --> 00:21:14,583 he goes, "I got this camera called the Steadicam." 410 00:21:14,607 --> 00:21:17,252 I go, "Excuse me?" It kinda looks like a vacuum cleaner. 411 00:21:17,276 --> 00:21:19,788 But no, this thing was amazing. 412 00:21:19,812 --> 00:21:24,025 You could run as fast as you could, be on a bouncy truck, 413 00:21:24,049 --> 00:21:27,429 yet the picture is incredibly level. 414 00:21:27,453 --> 00:21:30,398 And here we are in this very, very inexpensive film 415 00:21:30,422 --> 00:21:33,401 using a revolutionary camera, which really, 416 00:21:33,425 --> 00:21:35,537 basically revolutionized the business 417 00:21:35,561 --> 00:21:38,306 and is used probably on every movie there is 418 00:21:38,330 --> 00:21:39,641 around the world. 419 00:21:39,665 --> 00:21:40,665 Extraordinary. 420 00:21:46,038 --> 00:21:48,016 Yeah, fight night. 421 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,586 Carl 422 00:21:51,610 --> 00:21:53,755 we had this idea of him being Uncle Sam. I thought, we're gonna push the envelope here. 423 00:21:53,779 --> 00:21:55,991 This probably was so much out of our budget 424 00:21:56,015 --> 00:21:57,526 we could barely afford it. 425 00:21:57,550 --> 00:21:58,827 The robe they made for me 426 00:21:58,851 --> 00:22:00,762 was for a guy who was six foot five 427 00:22:00,786 --> 00:22:02,797 but again, we work it into the movie. 428 00:22:02,821 --> 00:22:04,733 "Don't you think this robe is kind of baggy?" 429 00:22:04,757 --> 00:22:06,959 "İt looks great, don't worry about it." 430 00:22:11,997 --> 00:22:13,575 We don't have many extras, 431 00:22:13,599 --> 00:22:15,610 so the camera angles are very, very important 432 00:22:15,634 --> 00:22:17,412 to be shooting up 433 00:22:17,436 --> 00:22:18,914 and these little lights which you see in the background 434 00:22:18,938 --> 00:22:21,750 which add depth of field, these Christmas lights, 435 00:22:21,774 --> 00:22:23,752 they're very effective. 436 00:22:23,776 --> 00:22:28,757 And out here, we're starting out working on the choreography 437 00:22:28,781 --> 00:22:32,093 that eventually will be almost punch for punch 438 00:22:32,117 --> 00:22:36,064 exactly what happens in the final product. 439 00:22:36,088 --> 00:22:38,833 So it's interesting to see how, bam bam. 440 00:22:42,661 --> 00:22:43,573 It worked! 441 00:22:43,597 --> 00:22:44,940 I mean, it was shocking. 442 00:22:44,964 --> 00:22:47,609 I enjoy seeing this here. 443 00:22:47,633 --> 00:22:48,977 Of course, you never know when you get out there. 444 00:22:49,001 --> 00:22:51,713 It could be the biggest waste of time 445 00:22:51,737 --> 00:22:53,815 and you go it looks really phony, 446 00:22:53,839 --> 00:22:57,409 but we're able to take it from the gym 447 00:22:58,544 --> 00:23:00,422 where you didn't know, I mean, 448 00:23:00,446 --> 00:23:02,691 you have to understand, we didn't know what we were doing. 449 00:23:02,715 --> 00:23:05,560 No one ever rehearsed for months and months and months 450 00:23:05,584 --> 00:23:06,995 and months and months. 451 00:23:07,019 --> 00:23:09,698 And boxing films weren't very, very popular, 452 00:23:09,722 --> 00:23:12,534 so I thought, are we just really wasting our time? 453 00:23:12,558 --> 00:23:15,003 Or is this actually going to translate into something? 454 00:23:15,027 --> 00:23:17,105 So every day you go in there, 455 00:23:17,129 --> 00:23:20,542 I hope this is just not gonna be an embarrassment. 456 00:23:20,566 --> 00:23:23,645 From that little gym, it worked in the big picture. 457 00:23:23,669 --> 00:23:25,547 Punch for punch. 458 00:23:25,571 --> 00:23:29,008 And we were able to do this time and time and time again, 459 00:23:32,878 --> 00:23:35,924 ich is why I always advocate for a long, long, long rehearsal for boxing films. 460 00:23:35,948 --> 00:23:38,560 And most people don't do it. 461 00:23:38,584 --> 00:23:40,462 It's well worth the effort. 462 00:23:44,857 --> 00:23:45,768 He can't even get his gloves up 463 00:23:45,792 --> 00:23:47,435 to protect himself. 464 00:23:47,459 --> 00:23:49,070 Here's Carl just laying it on me. 465 00:23:49,996 --> 00:23:51,539 Beautiful. 466 00:23:51,563 --> 00:23:54,142 His timing is amazing, it really is. 467 00:23:54,166 --> 00:23:55,877 The canvas was interesting. 468 00:23:55,901 --> 00:23:58,513 We designed these stars which was reminiscent 469 00:23:58,537 --> 00:23:59,972 of Apollo Creed's trunks. 470 00:24:19,458 --> 00:24:22,938 The acting started six months earlier in the gym, 471 00:24:22,962 --> 00:24:25,764 and you're just hoping it works there. 472 00:24:29,468 --> 00:24:31,546 We've been building up to this, right here. 473 00:24:31,570 --> 00:24:33,114 This is the harder part. 474 00:24:33,138 --> 00:24:36,618 How do you keep the audience engaged with the drama 475 00:24:36,642 --> 00:24:38,053 that these men are going through, 476 00:24:38,077 --> 00:24:40,855 and the trauma what they're going through. 477 00:24:48,654 --> 00:24:52,000 This I believe is after the show. 478 00:24:52,024 --> 00:24:53,868 We're all pretty much wrapped up 479 00:24:53,892 --> 00:24:55,937 and having a little bit of barbecue 480 00:24:55,961 --> 00:24:58,964 with John and his children. 481 00:25:01,033 --> 00:25:03,102 In my Howdy Doody shirt. 482 00:25:05,637 --> 00:25:07,782 This is I guess, yeah, 483 00:25:07,806 --> 00:25:10,185 it has to be probably while we're editing 484 00:25:10,209 --> 00:25:11,786 because my hair is longer in this part. 485 00:25:11,810 --> 00:25:13,011 This is great. 486 00:25:18,050 --> 00:25:20,662 We tried to keep this as free to the core, 487 00:25:20,686 --> 00:25:21,796 this kind of family group. 488 00:25:21,820 --> 00:25:24,199 Bill Conti, who I cannot express 489 00:25:24,223 --> 00:25:25,967 how important he was to this movie. 490 00:25:25,991 --> 00:25:28,670 His music just took it to another level. 491 00:25:28,694 --> 00:25:31,806 Yeah, classical music in an un-classical film. 492 00:25:31,830 --> 00:25:33,842 Very interesting dynamic. 493 00:25:33,866 --> 00:25:37,012 They wan 494 00:25:37,036 --> 00:25:39,781 d to put in rock music at one time and was talking about even Jimi Hendrix 495 00:25:39,805 --> 00:25:43,275 and bringing in Bill, he figured it all out. 496 00:25:53,886 --> 00:25:55,697 There's John's children 497 00:25:55,721 --> 00:25:56,721 Hey Rufus. 498 00:26:01,326 --> 00:26:03,905 I believe we opened up in maybe two theaters 499 00:26:03,929 --> 00:26:07,199 and this is the place where I was an usher 500 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,111 several years earlier. 501 00:26:10,135 --> 00:26:11,980 Two doors away at the Baronette, 502 00:26:12,004 --> 00:26:14,606 and I would also work over there at Cinema 2. 503 00:26:15,908 --> 00:26:18,153 And now I'm back with a film. 504 00:26:18,177 --> 00:26:21,589 That was my beloved manager Jane Oliver. 505 00:26:21,613 --> 00:26:22,657 She was great. 506 00:26:22,681 --> 00:26:24,592 And then John with his son. 507 00:26:24,616 --> 00:26:28,763 And the irony of being in this movie theater 508 00:26:28,787 --> 00:26:30,799 where I used to go back and forth with my brother 509 00:26:30,823 --> 00:26:32,634 there all the time 510 00:26:32,658 --> 00:26:35,170 and he was singing on the corner and I'm carrying tickets 511 00:26:35,194 --> 00:26:38,873 and now I'm in the theater, I'm on the marquis. 512 00:26:38,897 --> 00:26:40,275 How did this happen? 513 00:26:40,299 --> 00:26:41,299 It's amazing. 514 00:26:42,768 --> 00:26:46,805 And this was in also on the West Coast, in Westwood. 515 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:52,211 In one year, my life exploded for the better. 516 00:26:53,312 --> 00:26:55,223 So I tell people, you never know. 517 00:26:55,247 --> 00:26:57,567 You just never, never know if you're gonna hit the lottery. 518 00:27:00,152 --> 00:27:01,963 You just gotta k 519 00:27:01,987 --> 00:27:03,787 p buying tickets, you gotta keep going for it. 520 00:27:04,823 --> 00:27:07,226 Yeah, I used to cut my own hair, I know, I know. 521 00:27:08,894 --> 00:27:10,371 Don't comment on it. 522 00:27:10,395 --> 00:27:12,707 I was too cheap to hire a barber at the time. 523 00:27:12,731 --> 00:27:13,999 I didn't know any better. 524 00:27:15,801 --> 00:27:18,012 Here on the lobby just greeting customers. 525 00:27:18,036 --> 00:27:21,182 I felt like hey, thank you for showing up. 526 00:27:21,206 --> 00:27:22,851 I didn't know how long it was going to last, 527 00:27:22,875 --> 00:27:25,720 I didn't know it was going to be successful. 528 00:27:25,744 --> 00:27:28,890 Yo 529 00:27:28,914 --> 00:27:31,126 re a very lucky person when you can find outthe best friend you ever had is some character 530 00:27:31,150 --> 00:27:33,661 that just popped out of your mind, 531 00:27:33,685 --> 00:27:36,231 someone who was always there when things got rough 532 00:27:36,255 --> 00:27:38,133 and never quit on you. 533 00:27:38,157 --> 00:27:40,993 That's what I look at Rocky as, my best friend. 534 00:27:45,898 --> 00:27:49,944 And the winner is, Rocky, 535 00:27:49,968 --> 00:27:53,181 Irwin Winkler and Robert Chartoff 536 00:27:53,205 --> 00:27:56,050 To all the Rockys in the world, I love you. 41668

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