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Who does something like that?
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You know,
it's just like an --
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an animal.
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This was definitely not
a normal missing-persons call.
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Albuquerque police
promptly dispatch
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officer tavish barnhill
to the scene,
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a house in the northwest corner
of the city.
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I immediately respond
to the call,
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go straight to the house.
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Outside Marilyn gandert's house,
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he is greeted by the 911 caller,
Harry gandert.
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Usually when we get
a missing-persons call,
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we typically find the person
right away
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during that call for service.
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I went and spoke to Harry
about what was going on
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so I could kind of get
a little bit more detail
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as far as if Marilyn
does this quite often
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or if she's never
done this before,
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what's normal for her,
what's not normal for her.
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Alright.
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Harry really did seem concerned
about what was going on.
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She was a very,
very good person.
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She was a perfect sister,
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and she would do anything
for anybody.
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She would always call back,
always.
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And she didn't call back
that day.
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I mean, I figured maybe
she could have lost the phone
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or something like that,
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but she would have found a way
to contact me.
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Something was definitely wrong.
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While officer barnhill and Harry
speak in the driveway...
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...a woman approaches
from the street.
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She introduces herself
as Nancy Robinson,
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Marilyn's neighbor
and close friend.
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Marilyn's a homebody.
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Marilyn's not one
for road trips.
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Marilyn would have never left
her dogs.
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This instance, where there's
two separate people
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telling the same story
made it pretty serious to me
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that something
really possibly did happen.
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I'm gonna knock on the door
at this point
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and see if any doors are,
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you know, broken into
or unlocked or something
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that could be kind of weird
in the backyard.
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Officer barnhill
cautiously approaches the back
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of the house
with Nancy in tow.
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When I got to the side
of the house,
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there was a door
that led to the garage.
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It was locked.
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I looked through some windows.
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There was blinds covering them,
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so I couldn't even
really see inside.
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And I actually at that point
made my way
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to the rear of the house,
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where the sliding-glass door
was open a few feet.
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I was pretty concerned
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'cause the door
was wide-open like that
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and the dogs
had been barking at me.
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There was a lot of red flags
that were happening.
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This was definitely not
a normal missing-persons call.
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Nancy was so concerned
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she actually took a step or two
inside of the house.
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I had to draw her back.
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You could walk in, and somebody
could be armed with a weapon.
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There could be an intruder
still actively in there
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trying to steal some stuff.
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There's a lot of safety reasons
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that I'm not gonna go in there
first by myself.
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That's why I'm calling
for another officer.
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Once backup arrives,
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officer barnhill and the other
responding officer
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approach the open, sliding door.
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We walk up to the back door.
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We UN-holster our firearms.
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The officers clear the house,
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finding it empty,
with no trace of Marilyn.
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I'm trying to think best-case
scenario at this point.
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I saw a lot of pill bottles,
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and I saw a lot of hospital
kind of paperwork.
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I hope so, man.
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Then, the officers
find something strange.
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Yeah...
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Marilyn's house and truck keys
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are hanging
from her front doorknob.
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I don't leave the house
without my wallet,
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my keys, my cellphone.
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I mean,
her truck is out there, yes,
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but house keys
would be on there?
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Something was just not right
in my head
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and in my gut telling me that
something really did happen.
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Back outside,
Marilyn's friend, Nancy,
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tells officers that Marilyn also
owns the nearby rental property
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where her former tenants
had just moved out.
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Nancy said she drove by
that residence
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looking for Marilyn.
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Officers drive
to the rental residence.
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They discover
the garage door open
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and a pickup truck
parked in the driveway.
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Hi.
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Officers meet Alissa bickett,
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who had been renting the house
from her mother-in-law, Marilyn,
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and is the widow
of Marilyn's son,
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who passed away in 2014.
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Also living at the house
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was Alissa's son
and Marilyn's grandson Drake
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and Annie rael,
a friend of Alissa's.
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Alissa states that she made
an arrangement with Marilyn
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that she was going to pick up
the keys from her
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on Saturday morning,
move out the rest of her stuff,
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and she would return the keys
back to Marilyn on sunday.
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She's adamant that there was
some text messages
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between her and Marilyn
about picking up the keys.
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Officers do notice the last text
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that was sent from Marilyn
to Alissa was on Friday,
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which was two days prior to them
being at the residence.
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Alissa's being cooperative,
answering their questions,
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and even seemed concerned
that yeah,
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she hadn't, you know,
talked to her that day either.
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Nothing seems
out of the ordinary.
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We obviously need
more information.
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Who has last seen her?
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Who has last spoken to her?
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Are we gonna find her okay?
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So, as time goes on
and the longer you go
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without finding her,
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the leads get smaller
and smaller and smaller.
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With no further leads
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in the disappearance
of Marilyn gandert,
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Albuquerque detectives
figure the odds of finding her
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are not in their favor.
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The more time passes
that this person is gone,
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it could also mean
that more time passes
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that they could be injured,
harmed, or pass away.
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And with each passing hour,
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Marilyn's loved ones worry
she will never be found.
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I didn't want to think
of the worst,
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and I'm afraid to get
to the point
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something very bad
happened to her,
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and I'm afraid to go there.
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I just don't want to think
of that at all.
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Marilyn wouldn't go anywhere
alone like that,
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nor would she just take off
without telling somebody.
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Sunday morning, I texted,
"you need to get back to me,
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because I'm starting
to really worry."
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On January 27,
our patrol had received a call
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of a possible dead person
on a mattress,
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but it had been burnt
in west rio rancho.
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We get quite a few reports
of unusual things
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and a lot of reports
of possible bodies
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in the middle of the mesa.
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So we sent two deputies out
as our normal procedures
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is to investigate if this was
the actual remains of somebody.
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Deputies report to the dirt road
where they meet the 911 caller
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at the site
of the supposed body.
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When our deputies arrived,
they were unsure themselves
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if this was
the actual human remains.
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Once I arrived on scene,
as I approached,
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I could definitely tell
just by the odors
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and my years of experience,
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that this was definitely
the remains of a human being.
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It had ligatures
around the extremities.
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Appeared
the possibly of a head
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that had been wrapped in plastic
and tied off.
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The size was extremely small.
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We thought it could possibly
be a teenager or a child.
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The people that found them
are always naturally
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gonna be
your first people of interest.
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Coming upon remains in
the middle of an isolated area,
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and you have nothing
to go by at the scene,
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that's probably the toughest
case we run into.
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Deputies found
the charred body and remains
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of what appears to be
a box spring of a mattress.
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The body
is undergoing an autopsy
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and has not yet been identified.
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That evening, we put out that
we had discovered these remains
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in hoping that we would get tips
from the public
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as far as missing persons.
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We probably received
50 phone calls,
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but the call from Nancy
was very specific.
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Nancy was very concerned
that her friend,
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who had been reported missing,
was the deceased person.
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It would fit our timeline
and gave me hope
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that this was actually
the person that we had found.
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After autopsy,
I contacted the office
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of the medical investigator
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and provided them
with the dentist of Ms. Gandert.
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They were able to confirm
that the decedent
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on the mattress
was Marilyn gandert.
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Back in Albuquerque, detectives
inform Marilyn's brother, Harry,
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that his beloved sister
is dead.
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I've had to tell
family members before
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that their loved ones are dead,
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and in the close to 19 1/2 years
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that I've been a police officer,
but it doesn't get any easier.
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It was devastating.
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I felt like there was something
more I should do, but couldn't.
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She was my sister.
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You know, I wish I could have
been with her or something.
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It's too late.
It's gone.
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Never hear her voice.
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I mean, she was just
a wonderful person
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and a very wonderful sister,
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and I miss her
every day of my life.
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She was the type of person
who would do anything.
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When people were having,
you know, problems,
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she would help them.
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The detectives question Harry
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about Marilyn's daily life
in search of clues
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to who would have done this
to her.
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And Alissa never mentioned
to the original officers
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that she had been evicted.
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That's a huge red flag.
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Marilyn gandert has gone
from missing person
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to murder victim,
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delivering a shock
to those who knew her.
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It takes so much time
to wrap your head around
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that kind of self-serving,
depraved behavior.
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Who does something like that?
Why?
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You know,
it's just like an --
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an animal.
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The next day,
detectives speak with Nancy
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and learn that she, too,
has suspicions
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about Marilyn's former tenant,
Alissa bickett,
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who police have just learned
had been evicted.
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After learning that from Nancy,
huge red flags go up,
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because Alissa is telling US
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that Marilyn willingly
gave her the keys.
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Nancy truly believed
there was absolutely no way,
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100% she would not give
Alissa the keys
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when she was not there.
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Clearly, at that point,
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we want to find out
who's telling US the truth.
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We want to find out how
does Alissa have these keys
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without Marilyn's permission.
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Detectives dig into Alissa's
and her 20-year-old son,
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Drake's, backgrounds
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and discover
Drake has a criminal record.
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Our understanding was Drake
was staying at a hotel
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'cause they didn't have
a permanent place to live
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at this point.
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Detectives question
Drake at the hotel.
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But we wanted to see
what his side of the story is,
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why he hasn't seen his grandma
in a couple days.
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Is he gonna make up a story
like his mom's?
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We need to see
who's telling the truth
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and not telling the truth.
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Drake was very nonchalant
about things.
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He didn't know what was going on
with his grandma.
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He's, you know, yawning.
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He's just waking up.
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He doesn't even seem to care.
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00:23:21,134 --> 00:23:25,002
Then, detectives break the news
that Marilyn is dead.
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When Drake was informed
that his grandmother was dead
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and that she had been murdered,
we expect, you know,
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maybe some tears or some shock
or some sort of emotion.
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He just kind of glazed over.
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He didn't seem to care at all.
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Without that emotion,
you wonder
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is this something
he's already processed
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'cause he's known for a couple
days that she's dead,
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so he processed it the day
she died?
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Or was he surprised about it?
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Suspicious of both
Drake and Alissa,
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detectives have kept an eye
on Marilyn's rental property
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and now see activity at what
should be an empty house.
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Because Alissa is at the house,
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investigators obtain
a search warrant,
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concerned she may be
destroying evidence.
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When Alissa answers the door,
she didn't want to come out.
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She was a little upset,
and she becomes standoffish.
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Albuquerque police
prepare to enter.
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Clear.
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Officers work their way through
the house, clearing every room.
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At that point, we didn't see
anything that stood out
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until one of the detectives
just happened to notice
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a very small drop of blood
in the entryway hallway
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next to a carpet cleaner.
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So huge red flags
are going up at that point.
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Albuquerque police are searching
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Marilyn gandert's
rental property,
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where they fear evicted tenant
Alissa bickett
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may be destroying evidence.
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It's then that another person
pulls up to the scene.
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It's Alissa's roommate,
Annie rael.
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The police approach her.
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Officers press her to see
what Annie thinks of Marilyn.
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Annie was not too happy that
we were back at the residence.
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She started making Marilyn
look like the bad guy,
292
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that Marilyn didn't like her
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and Marilyn was blaming her
for the eviction.
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She's acting like, "we're just
trying to move our stuff.
295
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I don't know why you guys
are bothering me.
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What is this all about?"
297
00:28:13,726 --> 00:28:16,293
And she's starting to get
a little bit more standoffish.
298
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While officers question Annie,
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00:28:18,397 --> 00:28:21,732
detectives continue
to interview Alissa outside.
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00:28:39,118 --> 00:28:42,219
We still need to collect
some information from her.
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00:28:42,221 --> 00:28:44,254
We need to get another story.
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00:29:18,257 --> 00:29:20,224
So, as Alissa's telling US,
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"I saw Marilyn
on Saturday morning."
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We know that she's lying
'cause Marilyn was found
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00:29:26,398 --> 00:29:29,066
deceased in the early hours
of Saturday morning
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00:29:29,068 --> 00:29:32,569
prior to Alissa stating
she picked up the keys.
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00:29:32,571 --> 00:29:35,405
So we asked field officers
to transport
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00:29:35,407 --> 00:29:38,142
both Annie and Alissa
to the main police station
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00:29:38,144 --> 00:29:40,310
so we can conduct
some formal interviews.
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Detectives also arrest
Drake back at the hotel
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00:30:12,311 --> 00:30:15,245
and bring him
to the station...
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...where detective juarez
questions him.
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00:31:00,092 --> 00:31:02,259
When Drake states that,
you know,
314
00:31:02,261 --> 00:31:04,394
"my grandma wanted me
to kill her.
315
00:31:04,396 --> 00:31:08,432
She had a death wish,"
I was, like, deep down inside,
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I was like,
"yes, I finally got it,"
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00:31:10,302 --> 00:31:12,436
but then I also knew
that wasn't the truth.
318
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I knew that Marilyn
didn't ask Drake to kill her.
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I knew that Marilyn
didn't have a death wish.
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321
00:32:08,260 --> 00:32:11,061
Drake shuts down,
and he asks for an attorney,
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00:32:11,063 --> 00:32:14,298
and it almost is like
a defeat again for me,
323
00:32:14,300 --> 00:32:16,833
because I know
there's more to this story,
324
00:32:16,835 --> 00:32:19,303
and I can't get it anymore
from Drake.
325
00:32:30,182 --> 00:32:32,182
Marilyn's grandson Drake
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has just admitted to detectives
that he killed her,
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but claims it was at her behest.
328
00:32:38,357 --> 00:32:40,757
I knew in my heart
I arrested the right people,
329
00:32:40,759 --> 00:32:43,727
but what bothered me
was I did not know
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their exact role
in the homicide.
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I wanted to know exactly
who did what that evening.
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00:32:52,371 --> 00:32:56,139
Detectives next turn to Alissa
to get her version of events,
333
00:32:56,141 --> 00:33:00,143
but she spins
an entirely different story,
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00:33:00,145 --> 00:33:02,746
blaming someone else
for Marilyn's murder --
335
00:33:02,748 --> 00:33:04,715
her roommate, Annie rael.
336
00:34:23,429 --> 00:34:25,562
Alissa said
she kind of freaks out
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00:34:25,564 --> 00:34:26,730
and she needs
to get out of there,
338
00:34:26,732 --> 00:34:29,666
so she leaves Marilyn
in the house with Annie.
339
00:34:29,668 --> 00:34:31,201
She states when she comes back
340
00:34:31,203 --> 00:34:33,804
she noticed that Annie
is cleaning a knife.
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00:34:45,784 --> 00:34:48,885
It didn't quite ring true to me,
because first of all,
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she's putting Drake
out of the story.
343
00:34:51,056 --> 00:34:54,191
Annie really has no reason
to stab Marilyn
344
00:34:54,193 --> 00:34:55,192
just out of the blue.
345
00:34:55,194 --> 00:34:57,294
They beat her up.
She's unconscious.
346
00:34:57,296 --> 00:35:01,998
Why would Annie
just stab Marilyn?
347
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,368
Detective juarez next
presses Alissa to explain
348
00:35:05,370 --> 00:35:08,305
how they disposed
of Marilyn's body.
349
00:35:24,223 --> 00:35:28,725
But detectives aren't convinced
Alissa is telling the truth.
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00:35:28,727 --> 00:35:33,130
They turn next to roommate
Annie for her side of the story.
351
00:35:33,132 --> 00:35:34,464
She surprises them
352
00:35:34,466 --> 00:35:38,135
by claiming the murder
was in fact premeditated.
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00:36:45,871 --> 00:36:48,338
Both Annie and Alissa admit
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00:36:48,340 --> 00:36:51,374
that Annie was the first one
to lay hands on Marilyn,
355
00:36:51,376 --> 00:36:54,878
but Alissa never mentions
that this was planned
356
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,546
and that she actually
spoke about it
357
00:36:56,548 --> 00:36:58,148
the day of the homicide.
358
00:37:19,238 --> 00:37:21,338
We realized that Annie
and Alissa's stories
359
00:37:21,340 --> 00:37:22,539
are very similar.
360
00:37:22,541 --> 00:37:24,341
The primary difference
is Alissa
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00:37:24,343 --> 00:37:27,077
never admits
to it being preplanned,
362
00:37:27,079 --> 00:37:29,646
and Alissa never admits
to Drake being present.
363
00:38:02,514 --> 00:38:04,581
Annie is adamant
that Drake's actually the one
364
00:38:04,583 --> 00:38:08,451
who stabbed Marilyn
in the neck and in the throat.
365
00:38:08,453 --> 00:38:10,420
I do believe that
she's being more truthful.
366
00:38:10,422 --> 00:38:13,089
I think that Alissa,
being a mom,
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00:38:13,091 --> 00:38:14,391
is trying to protect her son
368
00:38:14,393 --> 00:38:19,195
from any involvement
in this case.
369
00:38:19,197 --> 00:38:22,632
We believe that all three
of these individuals
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00:38:22,634 --> 00:38:25,268
did beat Marilyn,
371
00:38:25,270 --> 00:38:31,074
did kick Marilyn, punched
Marilyn, choked Marilyn.
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00:38:31,076 --> 00:38:34,644
They hit her
with a souvenir bat.
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00:38:34,646 --> 00:38:38,948
They wrapped plastic
around her neck.
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00:38:38,950 --> 00:38:40,617
They attempted to choke her
to death
375
00:38:40,619 --> 00:38:46,890
and eventually
stabbed her to death.
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00:38:46,892 --> 00:38:49,292
They load Marilyn's dead body
into a vehicle
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00:38:49,294 --> 00:38:53,096
and drive Marilyn's body
into the rio rancho area...
378
00:39:01,473 --> 00:39:03,807
...and watch Alissa
pour gasoline on her...
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00:39:06,478 --> 00:39:09,546
...and set her on fire.
380
00:39:23,328 --> 00:39:25,228
And as they drove away,
they could see her body
381
00:39:25,230 --> 00:39:26,763
burning in the rearview mirror.
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00:39:48,286 --> 00:39:49,819
All three individuals --
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00:39:49,821 --> 00:39:53,123
Annie rael, Alissa bickett
and Drake bickett --
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00:39:53,125 --> 00:39:55,258
were all charged
and pled guilty
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00:39:55,260 --> 00:40:00,063
to the murder
of Marilyn gandert.
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00:40:00,065 --> 00:40:03,199
Alissa is sentenced
to 30 years in prison
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00:40:03,201 --> 00:40:06,736
while her son Drake
receives 26 years
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00:40:06,738 --> 00:40:09,339
for the murder
of Marilyn gandert.
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00:40:09,341 --> 00:40:14,277
For her willingness to testify
against Alissa and Drake,
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00:40:14,279 --> 00:40:17,914
Annie receives a reduced
sentence of 12 years.
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00:40:24,756 --> 00:40:27,490
I think ultimately
what happened on that Friday
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00:40:27,492 --> 00:40:31,161
was they begged Marilyn
to allow them to stay there,
393
00:40:31,163 --> 00:40:33,596
and Marilyn
was not having it anymore.
394
00:40:33,598 --> 00:40:35,031
She was fed up.
She was done.
395
00:40:35,033 --> 00:40:37,834
I think that Alissa felt
396
00:40:37,836 --> 00:40:40,403
that she was entitled
to live in that house,
397
00:40:40,405 --> 00:40:42,605
that she was owed something,
398
00:40:42,607 --> 00:40:46,709
because Marilyn was at one point
her mother-in-law.
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00:40:46,711 --> 00:40:49,746
So Alissa, in her mind,
felt like,
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00:40:49,748 --> 00:40:51,514
"if we get rid of Marilyn,
401
00:40:51,516 --> 00:40:53,450
we don't have
any worries anymore."
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00:40:53,452 --> 00:40:57,754
I think ultimately,
the ringleader is Alissa,
403
00:40:57,756 --> 00:40:58,988
but in this whole thing,
404
00:40:58,990 --> 00:41:01,758
the victim is Marilyn
and Marilyn's family.
405
00:41:11,269 --> 00:41:15,004
Her grandson, you know,
her daughter-in-law --
406
00:41:15,006 --> 00:41:17,774
that doesn't make sense at all.
407
00:41:17,776 --> 00:41:19,642
Family members --
you know, you don't expect them
408
00:41:19,644 --> 00:41:20,977
to do things like that.
409
00:41:25,984 --> 00:41:31,321
That's the most shocking part is
that people that you know well
410
00:41:31,323 --> 00:41:34,657
can do
the most heinous things.
411
00:41:34,659 --> 00:41:37,227
She cared about people
and others,
412
00:41:37,229 --> 00:41:41,064
and me,
I kind of isolated myself.
413
00:41:41,066 --> 00:41:44,267
She would be the only person
I would pretty much talk to.
414
00:41:44,269 --> 00:41:48,371
I'm not gonna be able to
share anything with her anymore.
415
00:41:48,373 --> 00:41:51,608
You know, sometimes I wish
I could see something or spirit
416
00:41:51,610 --> 00:41:54,143
or feel that she's right there.
417
00:41:54,145 --> 00:41:56,546
That's what I could do now,
is to see her
418
00:41:56,548 --> 00:41:59,315
as she was
when she was alive.
419
00:41:59,317 --> 00:42:00,416
No?
420
00:42:04,956 --> 00:42:07,323
And she uses it for coffee?
Yeah.
421
00:42:07,325 --> 00:42:09,926
Come on. When you put hot liquid
in it, the candles come on.
422
00:42:09,928 --> 00:42:13,196
That'd be neat.
-It's very cute.
423
00:42:13,198 --> 00:42:16,132
I'm going to miss
everything about her.
424
00:42:19,704 --> 00:42:25,909
I miss Marilyn a lot,
and I'm not the only one.
425
00:42:25,911 --> 00:42:27,577
There's lots of US out here.
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