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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:09,677 --> 00:00:11,577 Who does something like that? 2 00:00:11,579 --> 00:00:14,613 You know, it's just like an -- 3 00:00:14,615 --> 00:00:15,881 an animal. 4 00:00:27,962 --> 00:00:30,729 This was definitely not a normal missing-persons call. 5 00:00:55,956 --> 00:00:58,957 6 00:00:58,959 --> 00:01:02,061 7 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,581 Albuquerque police promptly dispatch 8 00:01:55,583 --> 00:01:58,183 officer tavish barnhill to the scene, 9 00:01:58,185 --> 00:02:01,854 a house in the northwest corner of the city. 10 00:02:01,856 --> 00:02:03,856 I immediately respond to the call, 11 00:02:03,858 --> 00:02:06,892 go straight to the house. 12 00:02:06,894 --> 00:02:09,595 Outside Marilyn gandert's house, 13 00:02:09,597 --> 00:02:13,098 he is greeted by the 911 caller, Harry gandert. 14 00:02:28,482 --> 00:02:30,516 Usually when we get a missing-persons call, 15 00:02:30,518 --> 00:02:33,018 we typically find the person right away 16 00:02:33,020 --> 00:02:34,586 during that call for service. 17 00:02:34,588 --> 00:02:36,855 I went and spoke to Harry about what was going on 18 00:02:36,857 --> 00:02:38,423 so I could kind of get a little bit more detail 19 00:02:38,425 --> 00:02:40,893 as far as if Marilyn does this quite often 20 00:02:40,895 --> 00:02:42,761 or if she's never done this before, 21 00:02:42,763 --> 00:02:44,663 what's normal for her, what's not normal for her. 22 00:02:49,103 --> 00:02:50,135 Alright. 23 00:02:56,644 --> 00:03:00,712 Harry really did seem concerned about what was going on. 24 00:03:00,714 --> 00:03:02,848 She was a very, very good person. 25 00:03:02,850 --> 00:03:04,883 She was a perfect sister, 26 00:03:04,885 --> 00:03:07,085 and she would do anything for anybody. 27 00:03:07,087 --> 00:03:08,820 She would always call back, always. 28 00:03:08,822 --> 00:03:11,490 And she didn't call back that day. 29 00:03:11,492 --> 00:03:13,525 I mean, I figured maybe she could have lost the phone 30 00:03:13,527 --> 00:03:14,726 or something like that, 31 00:03:14,728 --> 00:03:16,862 but she would have found a way to contact me. 32 00:03:16,864 --> 00:03:18,263 Something was definitely wrong. 33 00:03:21,435 --> 00:03:24,670 While officer barnhill and Harry speak in the driveway... 34 00:03:27,541 --> 00:03:29,608 ...a woman approaches from the street. 35 00:03:31,512 --> 00:03:34,680 She introduces herself as Nancy Robinson, 36 00:03:34,682 --> 00:03:37,249 Marilyn's neighbor and close friend. 37 00:03:50,965 --> 00:03:53,966 Marilyn's a homebody. 38 00:03:53,968 --> 00:03:57,102 Marilyn's not one for road trips. 39 00:03:57,104 --> 00:03:59,304 Marilyn would have never left her dogs. 40 00:03:59,306 --> 00:04:01,673 This instance, where there's two separate people 41 00:04:01,675 --> 00:04:04,176 telling the same story made it pretty serious to me 42 00:04:04,178 --> 00:04:06,511 that something really possibly did happen. 43 00:04:10,050 --> 00:04:11,583 I'm gonna knock on the door at this point 44 00:04:11,585 --> 00:04:13,018 and see if any doors are, 45 00:04:13,020 --> 00:04:16,555 you know, broken into or unlocked or something 46 00:04:16,557 --> 00:04:19,424 that could be kind of weird in the backyard. 47 00:04:19,426 --> 00:04:22,294 Officer barnhill cautiously approaches the back 48 00:04:22,296 --> 00:04:25,497 of the house with Nancy in tow. 49 00:04:25,499 --> 00:04:27,065 When I got to the side of the house, 50 00:04:27,067 --> 00:04:29,134 there was a door that led to the garage. 51 00:04:29,136 --> 00:04:30,302 It was locked. 52 00:04:30,304 --> 00:04:31,837 I looked through some windows. 53 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:33,538 There was blinds covering them, 54 00:04:33,540 --> 00:04:35,307 so I couldn't even really see inside. 55 00:04:35,309 --> 00:04:36,908 And I actually at that point made my way 56 00:04:36,910 --> 00:04:38,443 to the rear of the house, 57 00:04:38,445 --> 00:04:41,013 where the sliding-glass door was open a few feet. 58 00:04:47,321 --> 00:04:48,453 I was pretty concerned 59 00:04:48,455 --> 00:04:49,921 'cause the door was wide-open like that 60 00:04:49,923 --> 00:04:53,258 and the dogs had been barking at me. 61 00:04:53,260 --> 00:04:54,926 There was a lot of red flags that were happening. 62 00:04:54,928 --> 00:04:57,329 This was definitely not a normal missing-persons call. 63 00:05:08,108 --> 00:05:09,441 Nancy was so concerned 64 00:05:09,443 --> 00:05:11,843 she actually took a step or two inside of the house. 65 00:05:11,845 --> 00:05:13,045 I had to draw her back. 66 00:05:22,056 --> 00:05:26,358 You could walk in, and somebody could be armed with a weapon. 67 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,360 There could be an intruder still actively in there 68 00:05:28,362 --> 00:05:29,761 trying to steal some stuff. 69 00:05:29,763 --> 00:05:31,096 There's a lot of safety reasons 70 00:05:31,098 --> 00:05:33,098 that I'm not gonna go in there first by myself. 71 00:05:33,100 --> 00:05:37,069 That's why I'm calling for another officer. 72 00:05:37,071 --> 00:05:38,403 Once backup arrives, 73 00:05:38,405 --> 00:05:41,506 officer barnhill and the other responding officer 74 00:05:41,508 --> 00:05:45,010 approach the open, sliding door. 75 00:05:45,012 --> 00:05:46,478 We walk up to the back door. 76 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:48,080 We UN-holster our firearms. 77 00:06:33,794 --> 00:06:36,027 The officers clear the house, 78 00:06:36,029 --> 00:06:39,464 finding it empty, with no trace of Marilyn. 79 00:06:41,635 --> 00:06:44,336 I'm trying to think best-case scenario at this point. 80 00:06:44,338 --> 00:06:45,971 I saw a lot of pill bottles, 81 00:06:45,973 --> 00:06:48,740 and I saw a lot of hospital kind of paperwork. 82 00:06:48,742 --> 00:06:50,175 I hope so, man. 83 00:06:58,886 --> 00:07:02,521 Then, the officers find something strange. 84 00:07:02,523 --> 00:07:03,522 Yeah... 85 00:07:05,292 --> 00:07:07,626 Marilyn's house and truck keys 86 00:07:07,628 --> 00:07:10,962 are hanging from her front doorknob. 87 00:07:10,964 --> 00:07:12,464 I don't leave the house without my wallet, 88 00:07:12,466 --> 00:07:14,132 my keys, my cellphone. 89 00:07:14,134 --> 00:07:15,634 I mean, her truck is out there, yes, 90 00:07:15,636 --> 00:07:18,136 but house keys would be on there? 91 00:07:23,710 --> 00:07:25,911 Something was just not right in my head 92 00:07:25,913 --> 00:07:28,513 and in my gut telling me that something really did happen. 93 00:07:30,684 --> 00:07:33,618 Back outside, Marilyn's friend, Nancy, 94 00:07:33,620 --> 00:07:37,989 tells officers that Marilyn also owns the nearby rental property 95 00:07:37,991 --> 00:07:41,326 where her former tenants had just moved out. 96 00:07:41,328 --> 00:07:43,895 Nancy said she drove by that residence 97 00:07:43,897 --> 00:07:45,497 looking for Marilyn. 98 00:07:59,513 --> 00:08:02,814 Officers drive to the rental residence. 99 00:08:08,055 --> 00:08:10,655 They discover the garage door open 100 00:08:10,657 --> 00:08:13,558 and a pickup truck parked in the driveway. 101 00:08:24,938 --> 00:08:25,971 Hi. 102 00:08:34,781 --> 00:08:37,048 Officers meet Alissa bickett, 103 00:08:37,050 --> 00:08:40,252 who had been renting the house from her mother-in-law, Marilyn, 104 00:08:40,254 --> 00:08:42,554 and is the widow of Marilyn's son, 105 00:08:42,556 --> 00:08:46,291 who passed away in 2014. 106 00:08:46,293 --> 00:08:47,926 Also living at the house 107 00:08:47,928 --> 00:08:51,329 was Alissa's son and Marilyn's grandson Drake 108 00:08:51,331 --> 00:08:55,901 and Annie rael, a friend of Alissa's. 109 00:09:02,376 --> 00:09:05,610 Alissa states that she made an arrangement with Marilyn 110 00:09:05,612 --> 00:09:07,412 that she was going to pick up the keys from her 111 00:09:07,414 --> 00:09:10,015 on Saturday morning, move out the rest of her stuff, 112 00:09:10,017 --> 00:09:13,118 and she would return the keys back to Marilyn on sunday. 113 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,321 She's adamant that there was some text messages 114 00:09:16,323 --> 00:09:19,090 between her and Marilyn about picking up the keys. 115 00:09:45,586 --> 00:09:47,719 Officers do notice the last text 116 00:09:47,721 --> 00:09:51,456 that was sent from Marilyn to Alissa was on Friday, 117 00:09:51,458 --> 00:09:54,759 which was two days prior to them being at the residence. 118 00:10:51,885 --> 00:10:55,320 Alissa's being cooperative, answering their questions, 119 00:10:55,322 --> 00:10:57,022 and even seemed concerned that yeah, 120 00:10:57,024 --> 00:11:00,792 she hadn't, you know, talked to her that day either. 121 00:11:00,794 --> 00:11:02,961 Nothing seems out of the ordinary. 122 00:11:02,963 --> 00:11:04,763 We obviously need more information. 123 00:11:04,765 --> 00:11:06,498 Who has last seen her? 124 00:11:06,500 --> 00:11:08,933 Who has last spoken to her? 125 00:11:08,935 --> 00:11:10,769 Are we gonna find her okay? 126 00:11:10,771 --> 00:11:13,571 So, as time goes on and the longer you go 127 00:11:13,573 --> 00:11:14,739 without finding her, 128 00:11:14,741 --> 00:11:17,709 the leads get smaller and smaller and smaller. 129 00:11:28,188 --> 00:11:29,688 With no further leads 130 00:11:29,690 --> 00:11:32,757 in the disappearance of Marilyn gandert, 131 00:11:32,759 --> 00:11:36,294 Albuquerque detectives figure the odds of finding her 132 00:11:36,296 --> 00:11:38,363 are not in their favor. 133 00:11:38,365 --> 00:11:41,666 The more time passes that this person is gone, 134 00:11:41,668 --> 00:11:43,535 it could also mean that more time passes 135 00:11:43,537 --> 00:11:46,771 that they could be injured, harmed, or pass away. 136 00:11:49,242 --> 00:11:51,042 And with each passing hour, 137 00:11:51,044 --> 00:11:55,180 Marilyn's loved ones worry she will never be found. 138 00:11:55,182 --> 00:11:57,215 I didn't want to think of the worst, 139 00:11:57,217 --> 00:12:00,185 and I'm afraid to get to the point 140 00:12:00,187 --> 00:12:02,654 something very bad happened to her, 141 00:12:02,656 --> 00:12:03,788 and I'm afraid to go there. 142 00:12:03,790 --> 00:12:05,890 I just don't want to think of that at all. 143 00:12:07,994 --> 00:12:12,130 Marilyn wouldn't go anywhere alone like that, 144 00:12:12,132 --> 00:12:16,334 nor would she just take off without telling somebody. 145 00:12:16,336 --> 00:12:21,039 Sunday morning, I texted, "you need to get back to me, 146 00:12:21,041 --> 00:12:24,042 because I'm starting to really worry." 147 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,667 On January 27, our patrol had received a call 148 00:13:22,669 --> 00:13:25,904 of a possible dead person on a mattress, 149 00:13:25,906 --> 00:13:29,207 but it had been burnt in west rio rancho. 150 00:13:29,209 --> 00:13:32,911 We get quite a few reports of unusual things 151 00:13:32,913 --> 00:13:35,547 and a lot of reports of possible bodies 152 00:13:35,549 --> 00:13:36,881 in the middle of the mesa. 153 00:13:36,883 --> 00:13:40,885 So we sent two deputies out as our normal procedures 154 00:13:40,887 --> 00:13:45,223 is to investigate if this was the actual remains of somebody. 155 00:13:51,331 --> 00:13:55,600 Deputies report to the dirt road where they meet the 911 caller 156 00:13:55,602 --> 00:13:59,571 at the site of the supposed body. 157 00:14:23,797 --> 00:14:27,599 When our deputies arrived, they were unsure themselves 158 00:14:27,601 --> 00:14:32,704 if this was the actual human remains. 159 00:14:32,706 --> 00:14:34,906 Once I arrived on scene, as I approached, 160 00:14:34,908 --> 00:14:38,610 I could definitely tell just by the odors 161 00:14:38,612 --> 00:14:40,612 and my years of experience, 162 00:14:40,614 --> 00:14:44,249 that this was definitely the remains of a human being. 163 00:14:44,251 --> 00:14:47,252 It had ligatures around the extremities. 164 00:14:48,955 --> 00:14:51,456 Appeared the possibly of a head 165 00:14:51,458 --> 00:14:54,592 that had been wrapped in plastic and tied off. 166 00:14:54,594 --> 00:14:56,561 The size was extremely small. 167 00:14:56,563 --> 00:15:01,165 We thought it could possibly be a teenager or a child. 168 00:15:29,629 --> 00:15:31,329 The people that found them are always naturally 169 00:15:31,331 --> 00:15:34,866 gonna be your first people of interest. 170 00:15:57,490 --> 00:16:00,758 Coming upon remains in the middle of an isolated area, 171 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:04,228 and you have nothing to go by at the scene, 172 00:16:04,230 --> 00:16:06,264 that's probably the toughest case we run into. 173 00:16:06,266 --> 00:16:10,234 174 00:16:15,875 --> 00:16:18,343 Deputies found the charred body and remains 175 00:16:18,345 --> 00:16:21,212 of what appears to be a box spring of a mattress. 176 00:16:21,214 --> 00:16:23,281 The body is undergoing an autopsy 177 00:16:23,283 --> 00:16:26,417 and has not yet been identified. 178 00:16:26,419 --> 00:16:29,854 That evening, we put out that we had discovered these remains 179 00:16:29,856 --> 00:16:32,423 in hoping that we would get tips from the public 180 00:16:32,425 --> 00:16:34,559 as far as missing persons. 181 00:16:34,561 --> 00:16:37,061 We probably received 50 phone calls, 182 00:16:37,063 --> 00:16:41,199 but the call from Nancy was very specific. 183 00:16:41,201 --> 00:16:43,701 Nancy was very concerned that her friend, 184 00:16:43,703 --> 00:16:47,405 who had been reported missing, was the deceased person. 185 00:16:47,407 --> 00:16:50,074 It would fit our timeline and gave me hope 186 00:16:50,076 --> 00:16:54,579 that this was actually the person that we had found. 187 00:16:54,581 --> 00:16:57,081 After autopsy, I contacted the office 188 00:16:57,083 --> 00:16:58,249 of the medical investigator 189 00:16:58,251 --> 00:17:01,185 and provided them with the dentist of Ms. Gandert. 190 00:17:01,187 --> 00:17:03,921 They were able to confirm that the decedent 191 00:17:03,923 --> 00:17:07,358 on the mattress was Marilyn gandert. 192 00:17:12,899 --> 00:17:17,368 Back in Albuquerque, detectives inform Marilyn's brother, Harry, 193 00:17:17,370 --> 00:17:20,638 that his beloved sister is dead. 194 00:17:35,789 --> 00:17:38,589 I've had to tell family members before 195 00:17:38,591 --> 00:17:41,092 that their loved ones are dead, 196 00:17:41,094 --> 00:17:45,963 and in the close to 19 1/2 years 197 00:17:45,965 --> 00:17:49,767 that I've been a police officer, but it doesn't get any easier. 198 00:18:22,802 --> 00:18:25,470 It was devastating. 199 00:18:25,472 --> 00:18:29,440 I felt like there was something more I should do, but couldn't. 200 00:18:34,481 --> 00:18:36,814 She was my sister. 201 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,853 You know, I wish I could have been with her or something. 202 00:18:44,591 --> 00:18:47,692 It's too late. It's gone. 203 00:18:47,694 --> 00:18:48,793 Never hear her voice. 204 00:18:48,795 --> 00:18:53,097 I mean, she was just a wonderful person 205 00:18:53,099 --> 00:18:54,665 and a very wonderful sister, 206 00:18:54,667 --> 00:18:58,970 and I miss her every day of my life. 207 00:18:58,972 --> 00:19:03,774 She was the type of person who would do anything. 208 00:19:03,776 --> 00:19:06,677 When people were having, you know, problems, 209 00:19:06,679 --> 00:19:08,379 she would help them. 210 00:19:21,394 --> 00:19:23,261 The detectives question Harry 211 00:19:23,263 --> 00:19:26,731 about Marilyn's daily life in search of clues 212 00:19:26,733 --> 00:19:28,866 to who would have done this to her. 213 00:20:08,841 --> 00:20:11,108 And Alissa never mentioned to the original officers 214 00:20:11,110 --> 00:20:12,743 that she had been evicted. 215 00:20:12,745 --> 00:20:14,478 That's a huge red flag. 216 00:20:26,292 --> 00:20:29,360 Marilyn gandert has gone from missing person 217 00:20:29,362 --> 00:20:30,595 to murder victim, 218 00:20:30,597 --> 00:20:34,865 delivering a shock to those who knew her. 219 00:20:34,867 --> 00:20:38,869 It takes so much time to wrap your head around 220 00:20:38,871 --> 00:20:43,874 that kind of self-serving, depraved behavior. 221 00:20:43,876 --> 00:20:47,044 Who does something like that? Why? 222 00:20:47,046 --> 00:20:49,680 You know, it's just like an -- 223 00:20:49,682 --> 00:20:51,082 an animal. 224 00:20:54,220 --> 00:20:57,054 The next day, detectives speak with Nancy 225 00:20:57,056 --> 00:20:59,423 and learn that she, too, has suspicions 226 00:20:59,425 --> 00:21:02,727 about Marilyn's former tenant, Alissa bickett, 227 00:21:02,729 --> 00:21:06,197 who police have just learned had been evicted. 228 00:21:21,748 --> 00:21:24,982 After learning that from Nancy, huge red flags go up, 229 00:21:24,984 --> 00:21:26,517 because Alissa is telling US 230 00:21:26,519 --> 00:21:28,786 that Marilyn willingly gave her the keys. 231 00:21:42,769 --> 00:21:45,736 Nancy truly believed there was absolutely no way, 232 00:21:45,738 --> 00:21:49,940 100% she would not give Alissa the keys 233 00:21:49,942 --> 00:21:51,142 when she was not there. 234 00:21:51,144 --> 00:21:52,410 Clearly, at that point, 235 00:21:52,412 --> 00:21:55,346 we want to find out who's telling US the truth. 236 00:21:55,348 --> 00:21:58,749 We want to find out how does Alissa have these keys 237 00:21:58,751 --> 00:22:01,319 without Marilyn's permission. 238 00:22:01,321 --> 00:22:04,922 Detectives dig into Alissa's and her 20-year-old son, 239 00:22:04,924 --> 00:22:06,057 Drake's, backgrounds 240 00:22:06,059 --> 00:22:09,794 and discover Drake has a criminal record. 241 00:22:09,796 --> 00:22:11,662 Our understanding was Drake was staying at a hotel 242 00:22:11,664 --> 00:22:13,831 'cause they didn't have a permanent place to live 243 00:22:13,833 --> 00:22:15,299 at this point. 244 00:22:15,301 --> 00:22:17,968 Detectives question Drake at the hotel. 245 00:22:45,131 --> 00:22:47,865 But we wanted to see what his side of the story is, 246 00:22:47,867 --> 00:22:49,967 why he hasn't seen his grandma in a couple days. 247 00:22:49,969 --> 00:22:52,370 Is he gonna make up a story like his mom's? 248 00:22:52,372 --> 00:22:54,071 We need to see who's telling the truth 249 00:22:54,073 --> 00:22:55,606 and not telling the truth. 250 00:23:08,654 --> 00:23:12,757 Drake was very nonchalant about things. 251 00:23:12,759 --> 00:23:15,426 He didn't know what was going on with his grandma. 252 00:23:15,428 --> 00:23:17,328 He's, you know, yawning. 253 00:23:17,330 --> 00:23:18,396 He's just waking up. 254 00:23:18,398 --> 00:23:21,132 He doesn't even seem to care. 255 00:23:21,134 --> 00:23:25,002 Then, detectives break the news that Marilyn is dead. 256 00:23:59,405 --> 00:24:01,939 When Drake was informed that his grandmother was dead 257 00:24:01,941 --> 00:24:06,710 and that she had been murdered, we expect, you know, 258 00:24:06,712 --> 00:24:11,949 maybe some tears or some shock or some sort of emotion. 259 00:24:11,951 --> 00:24:14,018 He just kind of glazed over. 260 00:24:17,623 --> 00:24:19,356 He didn't seem to care at all. 261 00:24:19,358 --> 00:24:21,025 Without that emotion, you wonder 262 00:24:21,027 --> 00:24:22,593 is this something he's already processed 263 00:24:22,595 --> 00:24:24,995 'cause he's known for a couple days that she's dead, 264 00:24:24,997 --> 00:24:28,032 so he processed it the day she died? 265 00:24:28,034 --> 00:24:30,267 Or was he surprised about it? 266 00:24:51,791 --> 00:24:54,725 Suspicious of both Drake and Alissa, 267 00:24:54,727 --> 00:24:59,129 detectives have kept an eye on Marilyn's rental property 268 00:24:59,131 --> 00:25:04,301 and now see activity at what should be an empty house. 269 00:25:09,742 --> 00:25:12,142 Because Alissa is at the house, 270 00:25:12,144 --> 00:25:14,512 investigators obtain a search warrant, 271 00:25:14,514 --> 00:25:17,381 concerned she may be destroying evidence. 272 00:25:32,798 --> 00:25:35,733 When Alissa answers the door, she didn't want to come out. 273 00:25:35,735 --> 00:25:39,904 She was a little upset, and she becomes standoffish. 274 00:25:39,906 --> 00:25:42,540 Albuquerque police prepare to enter. 275 00:25:53,085 --> 00:25:54,852 Clear. 276 00:25:54,854 --> 00:25:59,056 Officers work their way through the house, clearing every room. 277 00:26:07,967 --> 00:26:12,336 At that point, we didn't see anything that stood out 278 00:26:12,338 --> 00:26:14,605 until one of the detectives just happened to notice 279 00:26:14,607 --> 00:26:19,276 a very small drop of blood in the entryway hallway 280 00:26:19,278 --> 00:26:21,612 next to a carpet cleaner. 281 00:26:22,949 --> 00:26:26,584 So huge red flags are going up at that point. 282 00:26:38,431 --> 00:26:40,431 Albuquerque police are searching 283 00:26:40,433 --> 00:26:42,633 Marilyn gandert's rental property, 284 00:26:42,635 --> 00:26:45,869 where they fear evicted tenant Alissa bickett 285 00:26:45,871 --> 00:26:48,272 may be destroying evidence. 286 00:26:51,944 --> 00:26:55,713 It's then that another person pulls up to the scene. 287 00:26:55,715 --> 00:26:59,083 It's Alissa's roommate, Annie rael. 288 00:26:59,085 --> 00:27:01,018 The police approach her. 289 00:27:07,693 --> 00:27:11,595 Officers press her to see what Annie thinks of Marilyn. 290 00:27:17,136 --> 00:27:20,237 Annie was not too happy that we were back at the residence. 291 00:27:46,432 --> 00:27:48,899 She started making Marilyn look like the bad guy, 292 00:27:48,901 --> 00:27:50,534 that Marilyn didn't like her 293 00:27:50,536 --> 00:27:54,071 and Marilyn was blaming her for the eviction. 294 00:28:07,053 --> 00:28:09,319 She's acting like, "we're just trying to move our stuff. 295 00:28:09,321 --> 00:28:12,256 I don't know why you guys are bothering me. 296 00:28:12,258 --> 00:28:13,724 What is this all about?" 297 00:28:13,726 --> 00:28:16,293 And she's starting to get a little bit more standoffish. 298 00:28:16,295 --> 00:28:18,395 While officers question Annie, 299 00:28:18,397 --> 00:28:21,732 detectives continue to interview Alissa outside. 300 00:28:39,118 --> 00:28:42,219 We still need to collect some information from her. 301 00:28:42,221 --> 00:28:44,254 We need to get another story. 302 00:29:18,257 --> 00:29:20,224 So, as Alissa's telling US, 303 00:29:20,226 --> 00:29:23,761 "I saw Marilyn on Saturday morning." 304 00:29:23,763 --> 00:29:26,396 We know that she's lying 'cause Marilyn was found 305 00:29:26,398 --> 00:29:29,066 deceased in the early hours of Saturday morning 306 00:29:29,068 --> 00:29:32,569 prior to Alissa stating she picked up the keys. 307 00:29:32,571 --> 00:29:35,405 So we asked field officers to transport 308 00:29:35,407 --> 00:29:38,142 both Annie and Alissa to the main police station 309 00:29:38,144 --> 00:29:40,310 so we can conduct some formal interviews. 310 00:30:08,607 --> 00:30:12,309 Detectives also arrest Drake back at the hotel 311 00:30:12,311 --> 00:30:15,245 and bring him to the station... 312 00:30:17,016 --> 00:30:19,817 ...where detective juarez questions him. 313 00:31:00,092 --> 00:31:02,259 When Drake states that, you know, 314 00:31:02,261 --> 00:31:04,394 "my grandma wanted me to kill her. 315 00:31:04,396 --> 00:31:08,432 She had a death wish," I was, like, deep down inside, 316 00:31:08,434 --> 00:31:10,300 I was like, "yes, I finally got it," 317 00:31:10,302 --> 00:31:12,436 but then I also knew that wasn't the truth. 318 00:31:12,438 --> 00:31:15,505 I knew that Marilyn didn't ask Drake to kill her. 319 00:31:15,507 --> 00:31:17,908 I knew that Marilyn didn't have a death wish. 320 00:31:38,097 --> 00:31:39,129 321 00:32:08,260 --> 00:32:11,061 Drake shuts down, and he asks for an attorney, 322 00:32:11,063 --> 00:32:14,298 and it almost is like a defeat again for me, 323 00:32:14,300 --> 00:32:16,833 because I know there's more to this story, 324 00:32:16,835 --> 00:32:19,303 and I can't get it anymore from Drake. 325 00:32:30,182 --> 00:32:32,182 Marilyn's grandson Drake 326 00:32:32,184 --> 00:32:35,485 has just admitted to detectives that he killed her, 327 00:32:35,487 --> 00:32:38,355 but claims it was at her behest. 328 00:32:38,357 --> 00:32:40,757 I knew in my heart I arrested the right people, 329 00:32:40,759 --> 00:32:43,727 but what bothered me was I did not know 330 00:32:43,729 --> 00:32:46,430 their exact role in the homicide. 331 00:32:46,432 --> 00:32:50,100 I wanted to know exactly who did what that evening. 332 00:32:52,371 --> 00:32:56,139 Detectives next turn to Alissa to get her version of events, 333 00:32:56,141 --> 00:33:00,143 but she spins an entirely different story, 334 00:33:00,145 --> 00:33:02,746 blaming someone else for Marilyn's murder -- 335 00:33:02,748 --> 00:33:04,715 her roommate, Annie rael. 336 00:34:23,429 --> 00:34:25,562 Alissa said she kind of freaks out 337 00:34:25,564 --> 00:34:26,730 and she needs to get out of there, 338 00:34:26,732 --> 00:34:29,666 so she leaves Marilyn in the house with Annie. 339 00:34:29,668 --> 00:34:31,201 She states when she comes back 340 00:34:31,203 --> 00:34:33,804 she noticed that Annie is cleaning a knife. 341 00:34:45,784 --> 00:34:48,885 It didn't quite ring true to me, because first of all, 342 00:34:48,887 --> 00:34:51,054 she's putting Drake out of the story. 343 00:34:51,056 --> 00:34:54,191 Annie really has no reason to stab Marilyn 344 00:34:54,193 --> 00:34:55,192 just out of the blue. 345 00:34:55,194 --> 00:34:57,294 They beat her up. She's unconscious. 346 00:34:57,296 --> 00:35:01,998 Why would Annie just stab Marilyn? 347 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,368 Detective juarez next presses Alissa to explain 348 00:35:05,370 --> 00:35:08,305 how they disposed of Marilyn's body. 349 00:35:24,223 --> 00:35:28,725 But detectives aren't convinced Alissa is telling the truth. 350 00:35:28,727 --> 00:35:33,130 They turn next to roommate Annie for her side of the story. 351 00:35:33,132 --> 00:35:34,464 She surprises them 352 00:35:34,466 --> 00:35:38,135 by claiming the murder was in fact premeditated. 353 00:36:45,871 --> 00:36:48,338 Both Annie and Alissa admit 354 00:36:48,340 --> 00:36:51,374 that Annie was the first one to lay hands on Marilyn, 355 00:36:51,376 --> 00:36:54,878 but Alissa never mentions that this was planned 356 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,546 and that she actually spoke about it 357 00:36:56,548 --> 00:36:58,148 the day of the homicide. 358 00:37:19,238 --> 00:37:21,338 We realized that Annie and Alissa's stories 359 00:37:21,340 --> 00:37:22,539 are very similar. 360 00:37:22,541 --> 00:37:24,341 The primary difference is Alissa 361 00:37:24,343 --> 00:37:27,077 never admits to it being preplanned, 362 00:37:27,079 --> 00:37:29,646 and Alissa never admits to Drake being present. 363 00:38:02,514 --> 00:38:04,581 Annie is adamant that Drake's actually the one 364 00:38:04,583 --> 00:38:08,451 who stabbed Marilyn in the neck and in the throat. 365 00:38:08,453 --> 00:38:10,420 I do believe that she's being more truthful. 366 00:38:10,422 --> 00:38:13,089 I think that Alissa, being a mom, 367 00:38:13,091 --> 00:38:14,391 is trying to protect her son 368 00:38:14,393 --> 00:38:19,195 from any involvement in this case. 369 00:38:19,197 --> 00:38:22,632 We believe that all three of these individuals 370 00:38:22,634 --> 00:38:25,268 did beat Marilyn, 371 00:38:25,270 --> 00:38:31,074 did kick Marilyn, punched Marilyn, choked Marilyn. 372 00:38:31,076 --> 00:38:34,644 They hit her with a souvenir bat. 373 00:38:34,646 --> 00:38:38,948 They wrapped plastic around her neck. 374 00:38:38,950 --> 00:38:40,617 They attempted to choke her to death 375 00:38:40,619 --> 00:38:46,890 and eventually stabbed her to death. 376 00:38:46,892 --> 00:38:49,292 They load Marilyn's dead body into a vehicle 377 00:38:49,294 --> 00:38:53,096 and drive Marilyn's body into the rio rancho area... 378 00:39:01,473 --> 00:39:03,807 ...and watch Alissa pour gasoline on her... 379 00:39:06,478 --> 00:39:09,546 ...and set her on fire. 380 00:39:23,328 --> 00:39:25,228 And as they drove away, they could see her body 381 00:39:25,230 --> 00:39:26,763 burning in the rearview mirror. 382 00:39:48,286 --> 00:39:49,819 All three individuals -- 383 00:39:49,821 --> 00:39:53,123 Annie rael, Alissa bickett and Drake bickett -- 384 00:39:53,125 --> 00:39:55,258 were all charged and pled guilty 385 00:39:55,260 --> 00:40:00,063 to the murder of Marilyn gandert. 386 00:40:00,065 --> 00:40:03,199 Alissa is sentenced to 30 years in prison 387 00:40:03,201 --> 00:40:06,736 while her son Drake receives 26 years 388 00:40:06,738 --> 00:40:09,339 for the murder of Marilyn gandert. 389 00:40:09,341 --> 00:40:14,277 For her willingness to testify against Alissa and Drake, 390 00:40:14,279 --> 00:40:17,914 Annie receives a reduced sentence of 12 years. 391 00:40:24,756 --> 00:40:27,490 I think ultimately what happened on that Friday 392 00:40:27,492 --> 00:40:31,161 was they begged Marilyn to allow them to stay there, 393 00:40:31,163 --> 00:40:33,596 and Marilyn was not having it anymore. 394 00:40:33,598 --> 00:40:35,031 She was fed up. She was done. 395 00:40:35,033 --> 00:40:37,834 I think that Alissa felt 396 00:40:37,836 --> 00:40:40,403 that she was entitled to live in that house, 397 00:40:40,405 --> 00:40:42,605 that she was owed something, 398 00:40:42,607 --> 00:40:46,709 because Marilyn was at one point her mother-in-law. 399 00:40:46,711 --> 00:40:49,746 So Alissa, in her mind, felt like, 400 00:40:49,748 --> 00:40:51,514 "if we get rid of Marilyn, 401 00:40:51,516 --> 00:40:53,450 we don't have any worries anymore." 402 00:40:53,452 --> 00:40:57,754 I think ultimately, the ringleader is Alissa, 403 00:40:57,756 --> 00:40:58,988 but in this whole thing, 404 00:40:58,990 --> 00:41:01,758 the victim is Marilyn and Marilyn's family. 405 00:41:11,269 --> 00:41:15,004 Her grandson, you know, her daughter-in-law -- 406 00:41:15,006 --> 00:41:17,774 that doesn't make sense at all. 407 00:41:17,776 --> 00:41:19,642 Family members -- you know, you don't expect them 408 00:41:19,644 --> 00:41:20,977 to do things like that. 409 00:41:25,984 --> 00:41:31,321 That's the most shocking part is that people that you know well 410 00:41:31,323 --> 00:41:34,657 can do the most heinous things. 411 00:41:34,659 --> 00:41:37,227 She cared about people and others, 412 00:41:37,229 --> 00:41:41,064 and me, I kind of isolated myself. 413 00:41:41,066 --> 00:41:44,267 She would be the only person I would pretty much talk to. 414 00:41:44,269 --> 00:41:48,371 I'm not gonna be able to share anything with her anymore. 415 00:41:48,373 --> 00:41:51,608 You know, sometimes I wish I could see something or spirit 416 00:41:51,610 --> 00:41:54,143 or feel that she's right there. 417 00:41:54,145 --> 00:41:56,546 That's what I could do now, is to see her 418 00:41:56,548 --> 00:41:59,315 as she was when she was alive. 419 00:41:59,317 --> 00:42:00,416 No? 420 00:42:04,956 --> 00:42:07,323 And she uses it for coffee? Yeah. 421 00:42:07,325 --> 00:42:09,926 Come on. When you put hot liquid in it, the candles come on. 422 00:42:09,928 --> 00:42:13,196 That'd be neat. -It's very cute. 423 00:42:13,198 --> 00:42:16,132 I'm going to miss everything about her. 424 00:42:19,704 --> 00:42:25,909 I miss Marilyn a lot, and I'm not the only one. 425 00:42:25,911 --> 00:42:27,577 There's lots of US out here. 33671

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