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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,096 --> 00:00:04,711 This programme contains some strong language from the start 2 00:00:04,736 --> 00:00:06,831 and scenes which some viewers may find upsetting. 3 00:00:06,856 --> 00:00:08,351 "| had just turned seven. 4 00:00:08,376 --> 00:00:12,271 "| didn't know what it was to mean, but for eight years, I endured it 5 00:00:12,296 --> 00:00:13,871 "as a child and a teen." 6 00:00:16,146 --> 00:00:19,911 "My father started to hit and touch me. 7 00:00:21,296 --> 00:00:23,991 "But this was just the start." 8 00:00:27,535 --> 00:00:30,430 "He groomed me and prepared me for the group. 9 00:00:32,376 --> 00:00:35,321 "| had to participate in some awful things 10 00:00:35,346 --> 00:00:38,430 "and deal with the nightmares that today it brings." 11 00:00:40,296 --> 00:00:43,550 "Electrocution and drowning were some of their tools, 12 00:00:43,575 --> 00:00:46,071 "when I was bad and broke their rules." 13 00:00:48,246 --> 00:00:49,630 "It didn't stop there. 14 00:00:49,655 --> 00:00:54,760 "They used snakes and wasps or left me out in the dark 15 00:00:54,785 --> 00:00:56,581 "to die in the frost." 16 00:01:03,816 --> 00:01:05,711 Well, he obviously didn't die, did he? 17 00:01:05,736 --> 00:01:09,221 Because he's alive, and still in fucking prison, for fuck's sake. 18 00:01:25,216 --> 00:01:31,791 In 2014, Carl Beech, a seemingly unremarkable man from Gloucester, 19 00:01:31,816 --> 00:01:34,911 perhaps better known by his pseudonym, Nick, 20 00:01:34,936 --> 00:01:38,680 claimed he'd been the victim of a VIP paedophile ring 21 00:01:38,705 --> 00:01:41,071 in the 1970s and '80s. 22 00:01:45,266 --> 00:01:47,111 I wish it never happened. 23 00:01:47,136 --> 00:01:50,321 Life would've been very different if it had never happened. 24 00:01:50,346 --> 00:01:54,550 These appalling allegations and all the aftermath 25 00:01:54,575 --> 00:01:56,321 of that and the press and the... 26 00:01:56,346 --> 00:01:59,401 You know, maybe the staring in the street. Who knows? 27 00:01:59,426 --> 00:02:00,760 But all of that. 28 00:02:00,785 --> 00:02:03,401 I mean, you have to have an enormous sense of inner reserves 29 00:02:03,426 --> 00:02:05,111 just to get you through it. 30 00:02:08,736 --> 00:02:10,471 It was humiliating. 31 00:02:10,496 --> 00:02:13,041 It was an affront to everything he stood for. 32 00:02:13,066 --> 00:02:16,071 You know, duty, service to his nation. 33 00:02:16,096 --> 00:02:17,911 Um... 34 00:02:17,936 --> 00:02:20,430 You know, it was sort of incomprehensible, really. 35 00:02:25,905 --> 00:02:28,111 So who was Carl Beech, 36 00:02:28,136 --> 00:02:32,430 and why did he choose to go public with this extraordinary story? 37 00:02:35,575 --> 00:02:38,041 I think to understand what happened with Carl Beech, 38 00:02:38,066 --> 00:02:39,630 we have to step back a few years. 39 00:02:40,936 --> 00:02:43,321 Late in 2011, jimmy Savile died 40 00:02:43,346 --> 00:02:47,351 and a number of people undoubtedly knew what Savile was up to. 41 00:02:47,376 --> 00:02:48,861 The rumour had been spreading, 42 00:02:48,886 --> 00:02:50,191 but it was suppressed. 43 00:02:52,936 --> 00:02:57,630 We knew that jimmy Savile had been a prolific child abuser. 44 00:02:57,655 --> 00:03:00,861 That changed the nature of the way 45 00:03:00,886 --> 00:03:04,191 that the UK was dealing with child sexual abuse as an issue. 46 00:03:05,346 --> 00:03:09,221 The pendulum went from the disbelief of jimmy Savile 47 00:03:09,246 --> 00:03:11,041 through to the opposite spectrum 48 00:03:11,066 --> 00:03:13,931 that actually, now, all these cases were coming out the woodwork, 49 00:03:13,956 --> 00:03:16,831 if you like, and needed to be believed. 50 00:03:16,856 --> 00:03:19,711 And into this mix came Carl Beech. 51 00:03:23,775 --> 00:03:25,071 They knew where I was. 52 00:03:30,986 --> 00:03:32,711 They knew where I went to school. 53 00:03:38,496 --> 00:03:40,151 Don't know, they knew everything. 54 00:03:43,016 --> 00:03:44,351 I don't know how. 55 00:03:45,886 --> 00:03:51,321 In 2012, Beech told Wiltshire Police he'd been sexually abused 56 00:03:51,346 --> 00:03:54,550 by his stepfather, by jimmy Savile 57 00:03:54,575 --> 00:03:57,351 and by some other men he called "the group". 58 00:03:59,066 --> 00:04:03,500 So how would you end up being at these places with the group? 59 00:04:03,525 --> 00:04:06,961 |—| was taken there, sometimes from school. 60 00:04:09,525 --> 00:04:11,680 During the day, I'd be taken out of school. 61 00:04:20,016 --> 00:04:21,831 When you say taken out of school 62 00:04:21,856 --> 00:04:25,041 were you in a playground and dragged out, 63 00:04:25,066 --> 00:04:26,861 or are we talking something different? 64 00:04:26,886 --> 00:04:28,351 How were you taken out? 65 00:04:29,816 --> 00:04:31,321 Just taken out of school. 66 00:04:47,996 --> 00:04:50,201 After a brief investigation, 67 00:04:50,226 --> 00:04:53,921 Wiltshire Police dismissed Beech's allegations. 68 00:04:53,946 --> 00:04:56,971 But not before Beech had submitted a compensation claim 69 00:04:56,996 --> 00:04:58,560 for the abuse he had suffered. 70 00:05:02,026 --> 00:05:06,281 Two years later, he began writing about his abuse online. 71 00:05:10,465 --> 00:05:13,121 I first came across the person 72 00:05:13,146 --> 00:05:15,121 that I later identified as Carl Beech 73 00:05:15,146 --> 00:05:18,510 through a blog on a website. 74 00:05:18,535 --> 00:05:20,281 And, on that website, 75 00:05:20,306 --> 00:05:23,841 there was a guest blogger who had blogged under the name Carl. 76 00:05:26,426 --> 00:05:30,121 I met him in central London, in Self ridges. 77 00:05:30,146 --> 00:05:34,780 He came across as very nervous, very vulnerable. 78 00:05:34,805 --> 00:05:36,530 He's a bright guy. 79 00:05:36,555 --> 00:05:37,991 He's very clever. 80 00:05:38,016 --> 00:05:39,861 And he's very articulate. 81 00:05:43,555 --> 00:05:47,501 Beech named 12 men who he said had abused and raped him. 82 00:05:51,605 --> 00:05:55,660 The list included Beech's stepfather, an Army major... 83 00:05:58,016 --> 00:06:01,251 ...as well as more high-ranking members of the military... 84 00:06:04,016 --> 00:06:06,351 ...including Field Marshal Lord Bramall. 85 00:06:09,555 --> 00:06:13,421 BEECH: I was just shown into an office 86 00:06:13,446 --> 00:06:17,251 when the senior officer was there — General Bramall. 87 00:06:19,196 --> 00:06:22,741 My father saluted and introduced me. 88 00:06:25,326 --> 00:06:26,660 You didn't challenge them. 89 00:06:26,685 --> 00:06:29,861 You know, that fear was ingrained from day one. 90 00:06:35,196 --> 00:06:37,021 Also on the list were politicians 91 00:06:37,046 --> 00:06:40,460 and other members of the establishment. 92 00:06:40,485 --> 00:06:43,611 Some of them had already been accused of sexual of fences. 93 00:06:46,526 --> 00:06:49,811 Others had unproven rumours about their sexual proclivities 94 00:06:49,836 --> 00:06:51,631 circulating on the internet. 95 00:06:53,326 --> 00:06:55,631 One of these was Lord Brit-tan. 96 00:06:57,555 --> 00:06:59,710 BEECH: He was sadistic. 97 00:07:01,086 --> 00:07:02,171 He took... 98 00:07:03,886 --> 00:07:07,991 ...pleasure...in hurting. 99 00:07:08,016 --> 00:07:09,660 Or seeing us in pain. 100 00:07:14,916 --> 00:07:16,891 Another was Sir Edward Heath. 101 00:07:19,046 --> 00:07:21,421 BEECH: He told me he used to run the country. 102 00:07:21,446 --> 00:07:23,501 INTERVIEWER: Right. Right. 103 00:07:23,526 --> 00:07:26,780 Whether he actually said that he was Prime Minister, I don't know. 104 00:07:26,805 --> 00:07:28,631 But he used to run the country. Mm. 105 00:07:30,016 --> 00:07:32,831 Again, that didn't really mean much. 106 00:07:32,856 --> 00:07:33,911 Yeah. 107 00:07:33,936 --> 00:07:35,861 It doesn't, to an 11—year—old. 108 00:07:35,886 --> 00:07:37,781 Yeah, I can understand that. 109 00:07:41,736 --> 00:07:44,500 Beech even alluded to a possible murder. 110 00:07:46,626 --> 00:07:50,031 Without question, they were the most serious allegations I'd ever heard, 111 00:07:50,056 --> 00:07:53,111 certainly in terms of the magnitude of the allegations. 112 00:07:53,136 --> 00:07:54,711 They were mind-blowing. 113 00:08:04,496 --> 00:08:06,141 GRENADES EXPLODING, GUNFIRE 114 00:08:06,166 --> 00:08:08,550 BEECH: That first occasion, I was seven. 115 00:08:10,575 --> 00:08:17,961 It was mainly military bases for probably a good few years. 116 00:08:24,416 --> 00:08:29,831 And the only one I'd know for sure now is lmber, 117 00:08:29,856 --> 00:08:31,601 which is on Salisbury Plain. 118 00:08:33,136 --> 00:08:36,630 It's just like a village, but a ghost village. 119 00:08:36,655 --> 00:08:37,831 Nothing there. 120 00:08:48,416 --> 00:08:51,500 I had, um, poppies... 121 00:08:53,445 --> 00:08:55,031 ...pinned to my chest. 122 00:08:59,266 --> 00:09:01,630 Whilst they did whatever they wanted to do. 123 00:09:13,136 --> 00:09:14,550 I remember thinking... 124 00:09:15,775 --> 00:09:18,351 ..."Blimey, this could make or break you." 125 00:09:20,056 --> 00:09:23,391 But I'd said to him, "Obviously, I'm a journalist. 126 00:09:23,416 --> 00:09:24,711 "In order for us to cover this, 127 00:09:24,736 --> 00:09:26,420 "if we're going to go anywhere with this, 128 00:09:26,445 --> 00:09:28,271 "we need to find other witnesses. 129 00:09:28,296 --> 00:09:30,420 "We need to corroborate the information." 130 00:09:34,655 --> 00:09:38,550 I took him to various locations in the early clays, 131 00:09:38,575 --> 00:09:41,911 just to see whether or not he recognised them. 132 00:09:41,936 --> 00:09:44,831 I remember taking him to an area that Ted Heath had lived in. 133 00:09:45,986 --> 00:09:47,630 So I walked him down this road, 134 00:09:47,655 --> 00:09:49,781 just to see if he picked out the property. 135 00:09:49,806 --> 00:09:53,071 And, to my surprise, he stopped outside 136 00:09:53,096 --> 00:09:56,550 the former home of Ted Heath. 137 00:09:56,575 --> 00:09:58,471 He didn't identify the actual house, 138 00:09:58,496 --> 00:10:00,711 but he stood on that part of the road 139 00:10:00,736 --> 00:10:02,500 and he looked around and he said, 140 00:10:02,525 --> 00:10:05,321 "This is very familiar to me. I'm familiar with this arrangement." 141 00:10:07,096 --> 00:10:11,111 Although Beech couldn't provide any hard evidence, for Conrad, 142 00:10:11,136 --> 00:10:16,031 this was an irresistible story with the potential to make his career. 143 00:10:16,056 --> 00:10:18,031 He arranged an interview with Beech 144 00:10:18,056 --> 00:10:21,550 on the investigative news website Exam. 145 00:10:21,575 --> 00:10:25,061 VOICE DISGUISED: The common one was for us, or me, 146 00:10:25,086 --> 00:10:27,711 to give them oral sex. 147 00:10:29,016 --> 00:10:32,271 But it would always culminate in being raped. 148 00:10:34,695 --> 00:10:35,961 It was a scoop. 149 00:10:35,986 --> 00:10:38,781 And, you know, I know that we got contacted 150 00:10:38,806 --> 00:10:40,961 by a lot of the UK's media after that, 151 00:10:40,986 --> 00:10:44,061 who wanted access to Beech, 152 00:10:44,086 --> 00:10:47,061 who wanted footage from the website. 153 00:10:47,086 --> 00:10:49,630 We were getting phone calls left, right and centre 154 00:10:49,655 --> 00:10:52,191 from not just the tabloids, but the broadsheets, too. 155 00:10:55,775 --> 00:10:57,601 Did you ever go to his house? 156 00:10:57,626 --> 00:11:00,391 I went to his house on a couple of occasions. 157 00:11:00,416 --> 00:11:04,061 He lived in an unspectacular suburban home 158 00:11:04,086 --> 00:11:06,601 on the outskirts of Gloucester with his son. 159 00:11:06,626 --> 00:11:08,711 And, you know, obviously, he'd explained to me 160 00:11:08,736 --> 00:11:11,271 that he was separated or divorced from his wife 161 00:11:11,296 --> 00:11:13,750 and that, you know, he lived alone with his son. 162 00:11:21,445 --> 00:11:23,420 Beech and his wife had first met 163 00:11:23,445 --> 00:11:26,161 when they were both training as nurses in the NHS. 164 00:11:29,216 --> 00:11:33,750 But in 2010, after 18 years of marriage, they split up. 165 00:11:38,296 --> 00:11:40,351 He was friendly. 166 00:11:40,376 --> 00:11:42,991 He was nice. 167 00:11:43,016 --> 00:11:47,311 And, in a way, he could almost show me a life that... 168 00:11:49,496 --> 00:11:51,880 ...was a little bit more privileged. 169 00:11:53,336 --> 00:11:56,311 Were you happy in the marriage? 170 00:11:58,655 --> 00:12:02,271 Hmm. That's an interesting question. 171 00:12:02,296 --> 00:12:03,311 Um... 172 00:12:05,036 --> 00:12:06,621 I was happy... 173 00:12:07,876 --> 00:12:09,690 ...but then I was also unhappy. 174 00:12:16,396 --> 00:12:18,291 Oh, God... It's all right, Dawn. 175 00:12:22,396 --> 00:12:25,440 What were the things in the marriage that weren't good for you? 176 00:12:29,186 --> 00:12:34,570 One of the issues was the intimate side of the marriage. 177 00:12:39,236 --> 00:12:43,690 It was... It just wasn't very good at all. 178 00:12:43,715 --> 00:12:45,621 Had it ever been good? 179 00:12:45,646 --> 00:12:47,440 Not really, no. 180 00:12:54,996 --> 00:12:59,931 Did he ever tell you that he'd been sexually abused as a child? 181 00:12:59,956 --> 00:13:01,520 Yes. 182 00:13:01,545 --> 00:13:06,411 He said to me, "I've got a letter that I've written to my mum, 183 00:13:06,436 --> 00:13:08,491 "and I want you to read it." 184 00:13:10,186 --> 00:13:12,801 This was the letter that he wrote to his mum to say 185 00:13:12,826 --> 00:13:19,161 that he had been sexually abused by his stepfather, Ray Beech. 186 00:13:21,356 --> 00:13:26,411 And when I read it, I just remember looking at Carl 187 00:13:26,436 --> 00:13:28,570 and just saying, "Oh, my God." 188 00:13:28,595 --> 00:13:33,411 And I think I hugged him, because what else can you do? 189 00:13:47,636 --> 00:13:50,491 In the first instance, he said the reason why he went and sought help 190 00:13:50,516 --> 00:13:53,690 through a counsellor was really through relationship counselling 191 00:13:53,715 --> 00:13:56,261 and that what emerged from the discussions then 192 00:13:56,286 --> 00:13:59,211 was the background of child sexual abuse 193 00:13:59,236 --> 00:14:03,931 and how that had impacted upon him subconsciously down the years. 194 00:14:12,316 --> 00:14:13,971 "| met a few counsellors 195 00:14:13,996 --> 00:14:16,690 "before I settled on one that I felt comfortable with, 196 00:14:16,715 --> 00:14:18,611 and this was so important. 197 00:14:18,636 --> 00:14:20,931 "| would not have said I trusted them at that stage, 198 00:14:20,956 --> 00:14:23,650 "but I felt comfortable with them and they helped me to share 199 00:14:23,675 --> 00:14:25,650 "what happened to me, little by little. 200 00:14:27,956 --> 00:14:29,851 "As I told her more and more over time, 201 00:14:29,876 --> 00:14:32,721 "she said it was like looking at me through a forest. 202 00:14:32,746 --> 00:14:36,331 "Gradually, as she gets closer, she can see more of me. 203 00:14:36,356 --> 00:14:38,570 "She was cutting through my past to get to me." 204 00:14:44,956 --> 00:14:46,770 As part of his therapy, 205 00:14:46,795 --> 00:14:50,541 Beech's counsellor asked him to chart and describe the injuries 206 00:14:50,566 --> 00:14:53,541 he'd sustained in the course of his abuse. 207 00:14:57,486 --> 00:14:59,770 "Green — broken bones. 208 00:15:01,386 --> 00:15:04,261 "Yellow — I was hit everywhere, 209 00:15:04,286 --> 00:15:06,721 "face, side and back of head. 210 00:15:09,956 --> 00:15:11,611 "Red — burn. 211 00:15:14,106 --> 00:15:19,411 "The red on the soles of my feet was from a lighter. 212 00:15:19,436 --> 00:15:23,491 "Blue — needles and pins were stabbed into me, 213 00:15:23,516 --> 00:15:26,131 "mainly on the soles of my feet, 214 00:15:26,156 --> 00:15:30,051 "in between my fingers and on my chest. 215 00:15:30,076 --> 00:15:32,851 "Purple — snake bites. 216 00:15:32,876 --> 00:15:35,251 "Black — wasps' stings." 217 00:15:48,236 --> 00:15:51,491 BEECH: I never thought I would be in a position to... 218 00:15:53,106 --> 00:15:54,690 ...report any of them. 219 00:15:54,715 --> 00:15:58,971 And then that all changed when the Metropolitan Police 220 00:15:58,996 --> 00:16:02,161 contacted me via Exaro. 221 00:16:03,876 --> 00:16:06,520 To my surprise, at that stage, Beech said, 222 00:16:06,545 --> 00:16:08,440 "Yes. I'll talk to the police." 223 00:16:08,465 --> 00:16:11,081 And that was the U-turn, that was the change of heart. 224 00:16:12,386 --> 00:16:16,291 Encouraged to go to the Met by Labour MP Tom Watson, 225 00:16:16,316 --> 00:16:20,001 Beech now claimed to have witnessed three murders. 226 00:16:20,026 --> 00:16:24,650 An investigation called Operation Midland was launched. 227 00:16:24,675 --> 00:16:29,251 The BBC conducted interviews with Beech, lending the story weight 228 00:16:29,276 --> 00:16:32,440 by running it as the lead item on the news. 229 00:16:33,746 --> 00:16:36,900 Police are investigating the possible murders of three boys 230 00:16:36,925 --> 00:16:39,440 in connection with an alleged historic paedophile ring 231 00:16:39,465 --> 00:16:41,361 involving powerful people. 232 00:16:41,386 --> 00:16:43,851 The group is alleged to have included senior figures 233 00:16:43,876 --> 00:16:47,081 in public life, the military, politics and law enforcement 234 00:16:47,106 --> 00:16:49,081 in the 1970s and '80s. 235 00:16:49,106 --> 00:16:52,851 Police are now appealing for witnesses to come forward. 236 00:16:52,876 --> 00:16:55,650 ACTOR'S VOICE AS BEECH: I've never experienced pain like it. 237 00:16:56,675 --> 00:16:59,251 I hope I never do again. 238 00:16:59,276 --> 00:17:01,900 They had no fear at all of being caught. 239 00:17:01,925 --> 00:17:04,211 It didn't even cross their mind. 240 00:17:13,156 --> 00:17:15,801 The first murder Beech had described to police 241 00:17:15,826 --> 00:17:19,331 was a hit-and-run incident he said he'd witnessed in Kingston. 242 00:17:23,276 --> 00:17:27,570 BEECH: I heard, um, the car, 243 00:17:27,595 --> 00:17:28,851 the engine. 244 00:17:31,996 --> 00:17:36,491 And as I turned round to see what the noise was, 245 00:17:36,516 --> 00:17:37,721 it hit him. 246 00:17:53,356 --> 00:17:55,491 And he was, um... HE CLEARS HIS THROAT 247 00:17:55,516 --> 00:17:57,291 ...thrown up into the air, 248 00:17:57,316 --> 00:17:58,801 and everything just stopped. 249 00:18:00,026 --> 00:18:01,541 Everything just stopped. 250 00:18:03,076 --> 00:18:04,570 There was a lot of blood. 251 00:18:06,276 --> 00:18:07,770 I had blood on my hands. 252 00:18:12,486 --> 00:18:15,001 And I was dragged away, 253 00:18:15,026 --> 00:18:18,251 but he died because I didn't do as I was told. 254 00:18:39,436 --> 00:18:44,541 Beech also said he'd witnessed a second boy being fatally stabbed, 255 00:18:44,566 --> 00:18:47,801 and a third boy being strangled to death by the group. 256 00:18:54,795 --> 00:18:56,640 "The murder of three young boys. 257 00:18:58,915 --> 00:19:01,931 "To me, they were not just three boys. 258 00:19:01,956 --> 00:19:03,281 "They meant everything. 259 00:19:03,306 --> 00:19:04,721 "They were my friends. 260 00:19:04,746 --> 00:19:07,690 "We shared a common bond, horrific as it was. 261 00:19:07,715 --> 00:19:09,770 "We shared each other's fear and pain. 262 00:19:09,795 --> 00:19:11,570 "And we knew what each other was thinking 263 00:19:11,595 --> 00:19:13,051 "when no words were allowed. 264 00:19:14,276 --> 00:19:17,690 "The trauma of watching them die, of holding them in my arms, 265 00:19:17,715 --> 00:19:19,211 "of having their blood on my hands 266 00:19:19,236 --> 00:19:22,181 "and the total helplessness of not being able to stop it. 267 00:19:22,206 --> 00:19:25,211 "| feel guilty every day that I survived and they didn't. 268 00:19:27,715 --> 00:19:29,411 "The grief is overwhelming. 269 00:19:29,436 --> 00:19:31,051 "| have had no closure. 270 00:19:31,076 --> 00:19:32,640 "| didn't get to say goodbye." 271 00:19:42,595 --> 00:19:45,131 Carl Beech was becoming Twitter famous. 272 00:19:45,156 --> 00:19:48,570 He had acolytes who followed him. 273 00:19:48,595 --> 00:19:53,491 He became not just a middle manager for an NHS Trust, 274 00:19:53,516 --> 00:19:55,890 but he was suddenly... 275 00:19:55,915 --> 00:19:57,640 ...courted by people on Twitter 276 00:19:57,665 --> 00:20:00,531 who wanted to know more about his story. 277 00:20:02,556 --> 00:20:05,331 I joined Twitter, 278 00:20:05,356 --> 00:20:10,851 and, um, I saw what I felt was quite an amazing 279 00:20:10,876 --> 00:20:12,211 kind of concept. 280 00:20:14,795 --> 00:20:18,690 Beech had given himself the Twitter handle RAVSCA — 281 00:20:18,715 --> 00:20:23,211 Raising Awareness for Victims and Survivors of Child Abuse — 282 00:20:23,236 --> 00:20:25,770 and was proposing an art exhibition 283 00:20:25,795 --> 00:20:30,351 inspired by the poppy installation he'd seen at the Tower of London. 284 00:20:37,046 --> 00:20:42,871 It was, and remained, a very good idea that he came up with. 285 00:20:42,896 --> 00:20:47,101 It would get victims of child sexual abuse to send in images or pictures 286 00:20:47,126 --> 00:20:49,511 that were of emotional importance to them, 287 00:20:49,536 --> 00:20:52,941 that would help them to tell us a broader story about child abuse. 288 00:20:52,966 --> 00:20:55,191 And it was... I think it was called the Wall of Silence, 289 00:20:55,216 --> 00:20:57,660 and it is all about breaking down the barriers of silence 290 00:20:57,685 --> 00:20:59,101 around child abuse in the UK. 291 00:21:03,256 --> 00:21:05,231 Did you meet him in person, Mike? 292 00:21:05,256 --> 00:21:08,631 I did. I thought he was fragile. 293 00:21:08,656 --> 00:21:12,941 He was anxious and, you know, 294 00:21:12,966 --> 00:21:14,871 kind of unsettled, if you like. 295 00:21:15,935 --> 00:21:22,431 And if I were asked if I felt that he'd experienced abuse trauma, 296 00:21:22,456 --> 00:21:24,271 I would have said, "Yes." 297 00:21:29,406 --> 00:21:34,660 Nick has been interviewed over a long period of time 298 00:21:34,685 --> 00:21:39,231 by experienced detectives from the Child Abuse Command, 299 00:21:39,256 --> 00:21:44,191 and he has also met an investigator from the Murder Command. 300 00:21:44,216 --> 00:21:49,021 They and I believe what Nick to be saying is credible and true. 301 00:21:50,256 --> 00:21:51,660 I was at the press conference. 302 00:21:51,685 --> 00:21:54,551 There were gasps within the room when it was said. 303 00:21:54,576 --> 00:21:57,191 I couldn't believe that the word "true" had been used. 304 00:22:00,735 --> 00:22:01,910 Here he was, 305 00:22:01,935 --> 00:22:05,871 a white, middle class male — well-spoken, articulate, 306 00:22:05,896 --> 00:22:08,660 and a health professional in the NHS. 307 00:22:08,685 --> 00:22:10,821 He was a person of some substance. 308 00:22:12,216 --> 00:22:15,710 What reason would he have to say these things? 309 00:22:15,735 --> 00:22:21,381 There's no doubt that, in the early stages of this investigation, 310 00:22:21,406 --> 00:22:24,941 the police officers proceeded on the basis 311 00:22:24,966 --> 00:22:30,741 that everything they had been told, remarkable as it was, 312 00:22:30,766 --> 00:22:35,431 and in my view, highly improbable from the very outset... 313 00:22:35,456 --> 00:22:40,381 They simply accepted the truth of everything 314 00:22:40,406 --> 00:22:42,871 that Nick had said to them. 315 00:22:58,896 --> 00:23:01,580 BEECH: It's been a secret for far too long. 316 00:23:01,605 --> 00:23:03,790 It's not just me. There are others. 317 00:23:05,096 --> 00:23:07,790 I'm trying to encourage somebody else to come forward, 318 00:23:07,815 --> 00:23:11,381 but I can't pressurise them. It has to be their own decision. 319 00:23:14,656 --> 00:23:20,381 I need others to come forward and speak to us. 320 00:23:20,406 --> 00:23:22,871 You will be believed, you will be supported, 321 00:23:22,896 --> 00:23:24,710 as we look to build this case. 322 00:23:32,016 --> 00:23:39,741 At that time, Nick had talked about another victim called Fred, 323 00:23:39,766 --> 00:23:42,021 and he had told Operation Midland 324 00:23:42,046 --> 00:23:44,871 that he was in contact with Fred. 325 00:23:44,896 --> 00:23:49,071 Um, and that Fred was ambivalent about coming forward. 326 00:23:49,096 --> 00:23:51,790 And obviously the Midland officers, 327 00:23:51,815 --> 00:23:54,910 you know, very much wanted to talk to him. 328 00:23:54,935 --> 00:23:59,271 The police request for me to make contact with Fred, 329 00:23:59,296 --> 00:24:06,040 because Nick had provided his e-mail address, came in February 2015. 330 00:24:09,326 --> 00:24:14,741 "Dear Fred, from what Nick has outlined to the police, 331 00:24:14,766 --> 00:24:18,021 "it is clear that your childhood involved some horrific ordeals. 332 00:24:19,815 --> 00:24:23,431 "Many people who have experienced sexual and other types of abuse 333 00:24:23,456 --> 00:24:27,660 "just want to move on with their lives and put it behind them. 334 00:24:27,685 --> 00:24:30,381 "This might particularly apply to this abuse perpetrated 335 00:24:30,406 --> 00:24:33,431 "against Nick, you and others, given the people involved 336 00:24:33,456 --> 00:24:35,710 "and the allegations of previous cover—up." 337 00:24:43,576 --> 00:24:46,271 BEECH: I don't trust people per se. 338 00:24:46,296 --> 00:24:49,071 It takes a long time for me to establish trust. 339 00:24:49,096 --> 00:24:51,830 But I do have confidence in the police. 340 00:24:51,855 --> 00:24:57,121 They seem to be very... dedicated in what they're doing, 341 00:24:57,146 --> 00:25:00,431 and passionate about getting results. 342 00:25:00,456 --> 00:25:05,301 SIRENS WAIL 343 00:25:15,735 --> 00:25:17,830 8:30 in the morning, knock at the door, 344 00:25:17,855 --> 00:25:20,301 two police officers outside, 345 00:25:20,326 --> 00:25:23,021 and they said they had to search the house. 346 00:25:23,046 --> 00:25:24,710 I was sat in this room, 347 00:25:24,735 --> 00:25:29,121 in that chair, traumatised with shock. 348 00:25:29,146 --> 00:25:31,830 You know, like a fly stuck to a fly paper, I couldn't move. 349 00:25:33,046 --> 00:25:36,151 On the 4th of March 2015, 350 00:25:36,176 --> 00:25:39,741 the Met coordinated raids on the homes of three of the men 351 00:25:39,766 --> 00:25:44,381 Beech had named, searching for evidence of murder. 352 00:25:44,406 --> 00:25:47,101 As the police raided the Westminster home 353 00:25:47,126 --> 00:25:49,451 of former Home Secretary Lord Brit-tan, 354 00:25:49,476 --> 00:25:51,961 who had only very recently died, 355 00:25:51,986 --> 00:25:57,351 in Yorkshire, officers also arrived to search the Brit-tans' second home. 356 00:26:05,605 --> 00:26:10,071 The doorbell went, and it was about half past eight, 357 00:26:10,096 --> 00:26:13,631 and the police were outside with this warrant, 358 00:26:13,656 --> 00:26:15,631 and they came into the house 359 00:26:15,656 --> 00:26:18,600 and they said they were going to go right through the house, 360 00:26:18,625 --> 00:26:21,941 and they did, from top to bottom. 361 00:26:21,966 --> 00:26:24,351 Penny! Penny! Penny! Penny! 362 00:26:26,176 --> 00:26:30,509 The stuff that was taken was shown to me, and all I remember saying is, 363 00:26:30,534 --> 00:26:32,899 "| can't think why you're taking those videos," 364 00:26:32,924 --> 00:26:36,339 because, you know, these were videos of, I don't know, 365 00:26:36,364 --> 00:26:38,229 Inspector Morse and things like that. 366 00:26:39,924 --> 00:26:42,788 The boss was fanatical about saving things. 367 00:26:42,813 --> 00:26:49,029 Saved bank stubs, photographs, Christmas cards. 368 00:26:49,054 --> 00:26:52,309 They bagged everything, dated it, 369 00:26:52,334 --> 00:26:55,229 and they started to bring it all downstairs. 370 00:26:55,254 --> 00:26:59,359 All these bags, full of... rubbish, really. 371 00:27:01,614 --> 00:27:04,309 The thing that hurt the lady more than anything, 372 00:27:04,334 --> 00:27:05,668 they took his slippers. 373 00:27:07,614 --> 00:27:11,309 There's something about slippers which are different from shoes. 374 00:27:11,334 --> 00:27:14,049 You know, it's... It's, you know, slippers and fires and pipes 375 00:27:14,074 --> 00:27:15,329 and all the rest of it. 376 00:27:16,384 --> 00:27:18,109 Were they nice slippers? 377 00:27:18,134 --> 00:27:20,538 They were a pretty awful pair of slippers, to be honest. 378 00:27:20,563 --> 00:27:21,748 No monogram. 379 00:27:31,094 --> 00:27:35,229 At the same time, on the same day, the Met also searched the home 380 00:27:35,254 --> 00:27:37,699 of the former Tory MP Harvey Proctor... 381 00:27:39,484 --> 00:27:41,788 ...and the home of Lord Bramall, 382 00:27:41,813 --> 00:27:45,229 former head of the British Armed Forces, who lived in Hampshire. 383 00:27:52,693 --> 00:27:54,459 There was a knock on the door 384 00:27:54,484 --> 00:27:58,389 and two police officers stood at the door and he said, "Come in." 385 00:27:58,414 --> 00:28:01,748 He thought it was possibly a security issue. 386 00:28:01,773 --> 00:28:05,819 I said, "Oh, nice to see you. What can I do for you?" 387 00:28:05,844 --> 00:28:09,179 And they said, "There's an allegation been made about you." 388 00:28:10,813 --> 00:28:14,459 Behind those two men came a sort of truckload of... 389 00:28:14,484 --> 00:28:16,868 ...20 other people, I think. 390 00:28:16,893 --> 00:28:20,059 And they went through the whole house. 391 00:28:20,084 --> 00:28:24,149 They had a special officer, who dealt with paedophile cases, 392 00:28:24,174 --> 00:28:27,979 asking my daughter questions and so on. 393 00:28:28,004 --> 00:28:31,709 And my wife was seriously ill, 394 00:28:31,734 --> 00:28:35,389 but she was downstairs on a walker, 395 00:28:35,414 --> 00:28:37,688 and I had to move her from room to room, 396 00:28:37,713 --> 00:28:40,409 and she just kept on saying, "What are they all doing here?" 397 00:28:40,434 --> 00:28:42,509 And I, of course, couldn't really explain, 398 00:28:42,534 --> 00:28:43,788 cos she had Alzheimer's. 399 00:28:47,094 --> 00:28:48,109 I think they took... 400 00:28:49,254 --> 00:28:54,029 ...a speech he made to cadets at Sandhurst, 401 00:28:54,054 --> 00:28:55,699 but there was nothing, 402 00:28:55,724 --> 00:28:57,229 nothing here at all. 403 00:28:59,334 --> 00:29:02,668 The trouble was that, once it was in the media, 404 00:29:02,693 --> 00:29:05,028 the media made the most of it. 405 00:29:05,053 --> 00:29:07,818 They thought there must be some presumption of guilt. 406 00:29:07,843 --> 00:29:12,439 So of course, every time my name or my picture appeared in the paper, 407 00:29:12,464 --> 00:29:15,628 it was connected with wider sex scandal, 408 00:29:15,653 --> 00:29:18,599 or you had a picture and underneath it said, 409 00:29:18,624 --> 00:29:21,269 "High level cover-up — question mark." 410 00:29:21,294 --> 00:29:25,039 They always, by innuendo, tried to spread the idea 411 00:29:25,064 --> 00:29:29,878 that there must have been something in these allegations against me. 412 00:29:29,903 --> 00:29:32,678 You know, you're always worried about what you might call 413 00:29:32,703 --> 00:29:35,399 a "no smoke without fire brigade", you know. 414 00:29:38,214 --> 00:29:41,319 Were those tactics heavy-handed? 415 00:29:41,344 --> 00:29:43,548 Well, we've not confirmed what searches 416 00:29:43,573 --> 00:29:44,909 have taken place or have not, 417 00:29:44,934 --> 00:29:48,399 so I'm not going to comment on individual actions that we take. 418 00:29:48,424 --> 00:29:51,039 The point to make, from my perspective, is that we will go 419 00:29:51,064 --> 00:29:53,349 where the evidence takes us without fear or favour. 420 00:29:53,374 --> 00:29:55,678 I think that's what the public expect and it's certainly 421 00:29:55,703 --> 00:29:58,829 what our investigators are doing and are keen to continue to do. 422 00:30:02,514 --> 00:30:04,419 BEECH: They seem to be very careful 423 00:30:04,444 --> 00:30:07,349 that they're doing everything correctly, 424 00:30:07,374 --> 00:30:09,469 and it takes time to gather the evidence, 425 00:30:09,494 --> 00:30:12,989 and, yeah, if the evidence is there, they need to make the arrests. 426 00:30:13,014 --> 00:30:16,269 And, I mean, I would like to see justice. 427 00:30:18,294 --> 00:30:20,599 As the investigation continued, 428 00:30:20,624 --> 00:30:24,039 Beech received his pay—out from his compensation claim 429 00:30:24,064 --> 00:30:26,269 and spent the money on a sports car. 430 00:30:27,544 --> 00:30:31,979 Carl likes his cars, and he always liked American cars. 431 00:30:32,004 --> 00:30:34,989 So, when he said to me that he was getting the Mustang, I mean, 432 00:30:35,014 --> 00:30:37,159 I didn't have a clue what even it looked like. 433 00:30:37,184 --> 00:30:40,599 But I wasn't surprised because I just thought, 434 00:30:40,624 --> 00:30:43,548 "Actually, I can see him in it." 435 00:30:44,903 --> 00:30:48,159 When he bought the Mustang, did you know how he was paying for it? 436 00:30:48,184 --> 00:30:49,628 No. No. 437 00:30:58,294 --> 00:31:02,678 In August 2015, Harvey Proctor made a bold move 438 00:31:02,703 --> 00:31:04,678 in an attempt to clear his name. 439 00:31:07,264 --> 00:31:10,548 Furious about the public insinuation of guilt, 440 00:31:10,573 --> 00:31:12,399 he held a press conference 441 00:31:12,424 --> 00:31:16,719 where he described in detail all of Beech's incredible allegations 442 00:31:16,744 --> 00:31:18,319 and asserted his innocence. 443 00:31:20,984 --> 00:31:27,619 I denied all and each of the allegations in turn 444 00:31:27,644 --> 00:31:28,678 and in detail... 445 00:31:29,744 --> 00:31:34,039 ...and categorised them as false and untrue 446 00:31:34,064 --> 00:31:37,798 and, in whole, a heinous calumny. 447 00:31:39,184 --> 00:31:42,989 They amount to just about the worst allegations 448 00:31:43,014 --> 00:31:46,269 anyone can make against another person, 449 00:31:46,294 --> 00:31:48,269 including as they do... 450 00:31:49,494 --> 00:31:52,039 ...multiple murder of children, 451 00:31:52,064 --> 00:31:55,768 their torture, grievous bodily harm, 452 00:31:55,793 --> 00:31:59,189 rape and sexual child abuse. 453 00:32:01,464 --> 00:32:05,909 I am completely innocent of all these allegations. 454 00:32:12,494 --> 00:32:14,719 I am a homosexual. 455 00:32:16,064 --> 00:32:18,039 I'm not a murderer, 456 00:32:18,064 --> 00:32:20,349 I'm not a paedophile or paederast. 457 00:32:21,903 --> 00:32:24,319 A month later, doubts about the story 458 00:32:24,344 --> 00:32:26,239 began to emerge in the press... 459 00:32:27,854 --> 00:32:31,109 ...and the BBC Panorama programme ran an expose 460 00:32:31,134 --> 00:32:34,079 that shed significant doubt on Nick's claims. 461 00:32:36,104 --> 00:32:39,239 There may be a danger the police are now spending 462 00:32:39,264 --> 00:32:43,399 an undue amount of time investigating cases 463 00:32:43,424 --> 00:32:46,159 that have all the hallmarks of being fantasy. 464 00:32:48,104 --> 00:32:51,129 ACTOR'S VOICE AS BEECH: I've never experienced pain like it. 465 00:32:51,154 --> 00:32:53,189 I hope I never do again. 466 00:32:53,214 --> 00:32:55,519 They had no fear at all of being caught. 467 00:32:57,214 --> 00:33:00,439 As soon as I saw the silhouetted head, 468 00:33:00,464 --> 00:33:03,748 I knew immediately it was Carl. 469 00:33:03,773 --> 00:33:07,998 Had Carl ever mentioned to you that he'd been sexually abused 470 00:33:08,023 --> 00:33:10,269 by a group of prominent people? 471 00:33:10,294 --> 00:33:11,548 No. 472 00:33:11,573 --> 00:33:14,159 Did you think any of it could be true, Dawn? 473 00:33:14,184 --> 00:33:15,599 No. 474 00:33:15,624 --> 00:33:19,389 I thought "What? What? What? Really? 475 00:33:19,414 --> 00:33:22,688 "Really? Really? Come on." 476 00:33:25,713 --> 00:33:29,609 You just think, "What the actual fuck is that about?" 477 00:33:32,634 --> 00:33:37,638 I remember dropping our son off one day and Carl came to the door 478 00:33:37,663 --> 00:33:43,008 and he was tearful, and I sort of said to him, "Oh, God, are you OK?" 479 00:33:43,033 --> 00:33:45,089 And he sort of said, "Well, I am Nick." 480 00:33:48,763 --> 00:33:51,149 I had to be a little bit of an actress 481 00:33:51,174 --> 00:33:53,069 and say, "Oh, my God. Really?" 482 00:33:53,094 --> 00:33:54,738 What were you thinking, Dawn? 483 00:33:54,763 --> 00:33:56,099 "No shit, Sherlock." 484 00:34:05,534 --> 00:34:08,429 I was called in nearing the end of the inquiry, 485 00:34:08,454 --> 00:34:13,529 at the end of 2015, round about the November time. 486 00:34:13,554 --> 00:34:16,399 What were your findings in this case? 487 00:34:18,404 --> 00:34:20,868 That I thought that there was a big question mark 488 00:34:20,893 --> 00:34:22,589 over the reliability of his memory. 489 00:34:22,614 --> 00:34:28,099 I had serious doubts about the reliability of his memory. 490 00:34:28,124 --> 00:34:32,509 And what was the police response to your serious doubts? 491 00:34:35,924 --> 00:34:39,349 Well, they thought it was... It was food for thought. 492 00:34:42,114 --> 00:34:43,688 They didn't check his computers. 493 00:34:43,713 --> 00:34:47,618 They didn't seek his full medical records at the time. 494 00:34:47,643 --> 00:34:50,179 They didn't even ask to see his injuries. 495 00:34:51,813 --> 00:34:55,349 They didn't ask for his mobile phone. 496 00:34:55,374 --> 00:34:58,538 These were all matters that would have brought this investigation 497 00:34:58,563 --> 00:35:00,949 to a crashing halt within hours. 498 00:35:04,643 --> 00:35:09,069 Astonishingly, the Met still hadn't even spoken to Beech's ex-wife. 499 00:35:12,924 --> 00:35:15,819 But, in January 2016, 500 00:35:15,844 --> 00:35:19,868 15 months into a £2 million police investigation, 501 00:35:19,893 --> 00:35:22,509 they finally began to challenge Beech, 502 00:35:22,534 --> 00:35:25,788 questioning him about the uncannily accurate drawings 503 00:35:25,813 --> 00:35:28,099 he claimed to have made from memory. 504 00:35:32,374 --> 00:35:36,179 There is an incredible amount of similar detail 505 00:35:36,204 --> 00:35:39,329 contained within certain drawings and sketches 506 00:35:39,354 --> 00:35:44,949 from a recollection of approximately 30 to 40 years ago, 507 00:35:44,974 --> 00:35:49,949 in comparison to images 508 00:35:49,974 --> 00:35:53,459 which are freely out there on the internet to be looked at. 509 00:35:54,734 --> 00:35:56,618 Do you understand? Mm-hm. 510 00:35:56,643 --> 00:36:00,988 Did you draw these places solely from your memory? 511 00:36:01,013 --> 00:36:02,589 Yeah. 512 00:36:02,614 --> 00:36:05,969 Do you understand why that question has arisen? 513 00:36:08,563 --> 00:36:10,709 Can you see why it's arisen? 514 00:36:10,734 --> 00:36:12,069 BEECH GRUNTS 515 00:36:12,094 --> 00:36:13,738 Sorry? Yeah. 516 00:36:18,204 --> 00:36:20,738 Beech started to get some criticism. 517 00:36:20,763 --> 00:36:23,459 People started saying, "Is this guy a fantasist?" 518 00:36:23,484 --> 00:36:26,099 And, at that point, he found that discomforting, 519 00:36:26,124 --> 00:36:27,738 so then he would call me 520 00:36:27,763 --> 00:36:32,069 and he would reveal his, um, new—found reticence. 521 00:36:33,404 --> 00:36:36,429 He then started to ask me 522 00:36:36,454 --> 00:36:39,868 about withdrawing as a police witness. 523 00:36:39,893 --> 00:36:42,349 And that's when obviously I got very suspicious. 524 00:36:42,374 --> 00:36:44,788 You know, why would you want to do that at this stage? 525 00:37:01,504 --> 00:37:03,888 In March 2016, 526 00:37:03,913 --> 00:37:08,369 the Metropolitan Police finally closed down Operation Midland, 527 00:37:08,394 --> 00:37:12,529 having identified no murder victims and made no arrests. 528 00:37:13,913 --> 00:37:17,249 By now, Exam were facing criticism, 529 00:37:17,274 --> 00:37:20,638 having peddled Beech's allegations for nearly two years 530 00:37:20,663 --> 00:37:24,249 without ever finding convincing evidence they were true. 531 00:37:27,064 --> 00:37:29,839 Did you still believe Carl Beech at that point? 532 00:37:29,864 --> 00:37:32,808 No, I would say that there was a very big change 533 00:37:32,833 --> 00:37:35,558 in the way that we perceived it inside Exaro generally 534 00:37:35,583 --> 00:37:39,279 at that point, because so much had been hung on the police's use 535 00:37:39,304 --> 00:37:42,808 of the term "true" that, when the police investigation closed 536 00:37:42,833 --> 00:37:46,449 without any action being taken, that made it impossible for us to think 537 00:37:46,474 --> 00:37:49,888 that the police still believed the allegations. 538 00:37:49,913 --> 00:37:54,119 So there was clearly a very big change of approach at that point. 539 00:37:54,144 --> 00:37:57,449 Some people have probably assumed... Mm—hm. 540 00:37:57,474 --> 00:37:59,678 ...that Beech took you for a fool... Mm—hm. 541 00:37:59,703 --> 00:38:03,678 ...and that you believed what he said, hook, line and sinker. Mm-hm. 542 00:38:03,703 --> 00:38:05,758 Did you? No. 543 00:38:05,783 --> 00:38:06,969 No. 544 00:38:08,754 --> 00:38:11,399 We're not talking about a guy who was easy to disprove here. 545 00:38:11,424 --> 00:38:14,449 If that had been the case, we'd have got to that much, much sooner. 546 00:38:14,474 --> 00:38:16,678 The police would have got to that much sooner. 547 00:38:19,064 --> 00:38:22,249 Is that poor policing? Is it stupidity? What is it? 548 00:38:22,274 --> 00:38:24,919 It was extremely poor policing. 549 00:38:27,344 --> 00:38:31,479 Unjustifiable, and frankly incompetent. 550 00:38:33,344 --> 00:38:37,319 There was a post-Savile over-reaction 551 00:38:37,344 --> 00:38:44,039 and a determination to bring prominent people to justice 552 00:38:44,064 --> 00:38:46,449 for sexual misconduct. 553 00:38:46,474 --> 00:38:50,808 About that, there can be no doubt whatsoever. 554 00:38:52,663 --> 00:38:55,558 They wanted this to be true. 555 00:38:55,583 --> 00:38:58,678 This was like the Holy Grail of abuse, wasn't it? 556 00:38:58,703 --> 00:39:01,969 And I think they were seduced by this 557 00:39:01,994 --> 00:39:08,479 and they lost all sort of sight of sort of rational thought. 558 00:39:18,033 --> 00:39:20,638 Following a report by Sir Richard Henriques 559 00:39:20,663 --> 00:39:23,609 into the Met's disastrous investigation, 560 00:39:23,634 --> 00:39:27,969 Northumbria Police were tasked with investigating Beech himself. 561 00:39:33,274 --> 00:39:39,569 December 2016, I had four missed calls on my mobile and two messages. 562 00:39:41,274 --> 00:39:45,249 And it was from a social worker... 563 00:39:47,344 --> 00:39:51,429 ...asking me to ring the school as there was a safeguarding issue 564 00:39:51,454 --> 00:39:52,888 with my son. 565 00:39:55,634 --> 00:39:59,039 And that's when the social worker told me 566 00:39:59,064 --> 00:40:01,899 that Carl was a potential risk to children 567 00:40:01,924 --> 00:40:05,429 and couldn't be with anyone under the age of 18, 568 00:40:05,454 --> 00:40:08,429 which totally blew me away because I thought... 569 00:40:11,174 --> 00:40:12,509 ..."Hang on a minute. 570 00:40:12,534 --> 00:40:15,149 "He's been living with our son. 571 00:40:15,174 --> 00:40:17,299 "He's a children's nurse. 572 00:40:18,534 --> 00:40:20,509 "Why are you saying this now?!" 573 00:40:24,013 --> 00:40:26,709 The police raided his house in Gloucester 574 00:40:26,734 --> 00:40:30,229 and seized electronic devices. 575 00:40:30,254 --> 00:40:33,429 They went through them, analysed them and found that some of them 576 00:40:33,454 --> 00:40:36,589 contained indecent images of children. 577 00:40:38,013 --> 00:40:42,459 Indeed, he'd been filming, covertly, schoolboys 578 00:40:42,484 --> 00:40:45,709 and analysis of these images later found 579 00:40:45,734 --> 00:40:48,589 that there's 28 of the worst category — 580 00:40:48,614 --> 00:40:51,299 the very most serious categories of abuse. 581 00:40:53,094 --> 00:40:58,549 Another 100 at Category B and nearly 200 Category C images. 582 00:40:58,574 --> 00:41:00,299 So, quite a collection. 583 00:41:05,454 --> 00:41:08,509 I mean, they kept saying to me, our son is fine. 584 00:41:08,534 --> 00:41:10,738 He hasn't, um... 585 00:41:10,763 --> 00:41:12,819 You know, nothing has happened. 586 00:41:13,964 --> 00:41:16,069 But how do you deal with that? 587 00:41:16,094 --> 00:41:18,229 How-how do you deal with that? What...? 588 00:41:19,534 --> 00:41:23,349 There is no words that you can actually describe how you feel 589 00:41:23,374 --> 00:41:25,819 when you hear that about somebody... 590 00:41:27,534 --> 00:41:30,179 ...who you were married to for 18 years, 591 00:41:30,204 --> 00:41:33,868 that you shared a bed with, and they've got that on their computer. 592 00:41:36,763 --> 00:41:38,099 Everything about it. 593 00:41:38,124 --> 00:41:41,579 I mean, even thinking about it now makes me just... Ugh. 594 00:41:41,604 --> 00:41:45,629 I don't like to think about it. I don't want to think about it. 595 00:41:49,174 --> 00:41:52,269 I was genuinely gobsmacked 596 00:41:52,294 --> 00:41:54,509 by the revelation that he was himself, er... 597 00:41:55,893 --> 00:41:57,629 ...had paedophilic interest 598 00:41:57,654 --> 00:42:00,509 and an unhealthy interest in young children. 599 00:42:01,964 --> 00:42:05,629 Nothing within my interaction with Beech 600 00:42:05,654 --> 00:42:07,988 had indicated that that was the case. 601 00:42:08,013 --> 00:42:12,429 And, when that bombshell dropped, I was genuinely shocked. 602 00:42:36,284 --> 00:42:40,899 In july 2018, Beech was due in court to face charges 603 00:42:40,924 --> 00:42:44,738 of possessing indecent images, but failed to appear. 604 00:43:10,374 --> 00:43:14,219 This is the house Carl bought, 605 00:43:14,244 --> 00:43:16,629 and the house he renovated. 606 00:43:17,763 --> 00:43:19,738 Whose antlers are they? 607 00:43:19,763 --> 00:43:23,379 It is a... Um... 608 00:43:23,404 --> 00:43:26,738 An elk's. An elk? 609 00:43:26,763 --> 00:43:28,658 Elk's. 610 00:43:28,683 --> 00:43:32,099 With the horn. Antlers. Mm? 611 00:43:37,844 --> 00:43:42,868 In an unexpected turn of events, Beech had fled to Swedish Lapland, 612 00:43:42,893 --> 00:43:45,629 where he'd bought a house near the Arctic Circle 613 00:43:45,654 --> 00:43:48,019 and was living off his NHS pension. 614 00:43:52,494 --> 00:43:55,429 Did he say why he had come here? 615 00:43:55,454 --> 00:43:58,459 It's cheap to buy houses 616 00:43:58,484 --> 00:44:00,868 and it's a beautiful place to stay. 617 00:44:02,324 --> 00:44:04,429 Hm. It's quite cold. 618 00:44:04,454 --> 00:44:06,579 Yes, but he said he liked... 619 00:44:06,604 --> 00:44:08,019 "| like the cold." 620 00:44:09,324 --> 00:44:11,988 I remember that. Mm. 621 00:44:12,013 --> 00:44:14,579 "No problem," he said. "| like the cold." 622 00:44:15,654 --> 00:44:17,579 Did he speak Swedish? 623 00:44:17,604 --> 00:44:20,379 Yes, some. He speaks some Swedish. 624 00:44:21,924 --> 00:44:25,509 My intuition said he was a good man, 625 00:44:25,534 --> 00:44:29,429 honest man, who wanted to do his best and... 626 00:44:30,964 --> 00:44:34,658 ...he was grateful. 627 00:44:35,813 --> 00:44:38,179 A friendly man. 628 00:44:38,204 --> 00:44:39,939 A man you can trust. 629 00:44:43,244 --> 00:44:45,658 Did he talk about his life in England? 630 00:44:45,683 --> 00:44:47,179 No, never. 631 00:44:48,893 --> 00:44:51,019 Did he mention that he had a child? 632 00:44:51,044 --> 00:44:52,219 No, never. 633 00:44:53,604 --> 00:44:56,629 So there was never any indication 634 00:44:56,654 --> 00:44:59,538 that he had come here to escape justice? 635 00:44:59,563 --> 00:45:00,829 No. 636 00:45:13,454 --> 00:45:16,019 In October 2018, 637 00:45:16,044 --> 00:45:20,709 Beech was extradited from Sweden and brought back to the UK 638 00:45:20,734 --> 00:45:23,738 to face trial for perverting the course of justice, 639 00:45:23,763 --> 00:45:26,788 fraud and the paedophile of fences. 640 00:45:28,754 --> 00:45:30,529 NEWSREADER: Accused of being a liar — 641 00:45:30,554 --> 00:45:34,209 the man who claimed several high profile figures were paedophiles 642 00:45:34,234 --> 00:45:35,729 goes on trial. 643 00:45:39,033 --> 00:45:43,729 The prosecution dissected all the many lies Beech had told. 644 00:45:43,754 --> 00:45:47,729 It turned out there was no sign of any injuries on his body. 645 00:45:50,703 --> 00:45:54,649 He'd also lied about being taken out of school by the group. 646 00:45:56,674 --> 00:46:00,239 He claimed to being able to walk out of school any number of times, 647 00:46:00,264 --> 00:46:03,919 and yet there was no equivalent record of absenteeism. 648 00:46:05,864 --> 00:46:08,479 He claimed to have an aversion to poppies, 649 00:46:08,504 --> 00:46:12,599 in that they'd been pinned to his naked body during abuse parties 650 00:46:12,624 --> 00:46:14,919 by military people at Remembrance Day. 651 00:46:16,583 --> 00:46:21,839 But when we were student nurses back in the end of the '80s, 652 00:46:21,864 --> 00:46:24,479 we used to wear them on our uniforms, 653 00:46:24,504 --> 00:46:29,089 buy a poppy and tuck them in behind your name badge to hold them on. 654 00:46:29,114 --> 00:46:31,649 Never having an issue. 655 00:46:34,783 --> 00:46:36,649 He used a Proton e-mail account — 656 00:46:36,674 --> 00:46:39,808 that's a Swiss-based e-mail account which is anonymous. 657 00:46:41,064 --> 00:46:45,289 He set up that account for someone he called Fred, 658 00:46:45,314 --> 00:46:47,678 who was known as Fred to the police. 659 00:46:47,703 --> 00:46:51,729 And it was Northumbria Police whose investigations eventually proved 660 00:46:51,754 --> 00:46:57,849 that that e-mail account in Fred's name was, lo and behold, Carl Beech. 661 00:47:05,674 --> 00:47:09,319 Carl Beech claimed that Ted Heath had taken him on board his yacht, 662 00:47:09,344 --> 00:47:12,599 taken him into a cabin, on a double bed 663 00:47:12,624 --> 00:47:15,089 and been sexually abused. 664 00:47:15,114 --> 00:47:19,479 Police spoke to yachtsmen who'd worked with Sir Ted Heath 665 00:47:19,504 --> 00:47:23,039 and found that racing yachts don't have cabins, 666 00:47:23,064 --> 00:47:26,169 don't have double beds — they have hammocks. 667 00:47:26,194 --> 00:47:28,599 That's demonstrably untrue, what he claimed. 668 00:47:30,874 --> 00:47:35,239 Beech's lies were laid bare most clearly by the computer evidence. 669 00:47:39,864 --> 00:47:42,479 It can take you two minutes to find those images of lmber 670 00:47:42,504 --> 00:47:45,449 on the internet. We know now Carl Beech was doing that 671 00:47:45,474 --> 00:47:48,959 and not only that, he'd also been back to lmber on one of the visits 672 00:47:48,984 --> 00:47:51,449 that you can have every year. 673 00:47:51,474 --> 00:47:54,369 So it wasn't that he was recalling memory from the distant past 674 00:47:54,394 --> 00:47:56,119 with brilliant accuracy. 675 00:47:56,144 --> 00:47:58,239 It was just that he was good at using Google 676 00:47:58,264 --> 00:48:00,289 and got on a trip to lmber. 677 00:48:05,194 --> 00:48:07,878 It turned out Beech had been researching his hoax 678 00:48:07,903 --> 00:48:09,558 from the very beginning, 679 00:48:09,583 --> 00:48:12,119 even before he made his compensation claim 680 00:48:12,144 --> 00:48:15,839 and reported his abuse to Wiltshire Police. 681 00:48:15,864 --> 00:48:18,878 The police were able to prove that Carl Beech had looked 682 00:48:18,903 --> 00:48:21,319 at an Evening Standard article, 683 00:48:21,344 --> 00:48:25,239 detailing how victims of jimmy Savile could... 684 00:48:25,264 --> 00:48:27,159 ...claim compensation. 685 00:48:27,184 --> 00:48:30,519 One of the things you needed was a crime reference number, 686 00:48:30,544 --> 00:48:33,399 so to do that, he obviously had to contact the police, 687 00:48:33,424 --> 00:48:34,678 and that's what he did. 688 00:48:34,703 --> 00:48:37,758 He contacted Wiltshire Police to make his allegations. 689 00:48:49,033 --> 00:48:51,399 A fantasist who made false allegations 690 00:48:51,424 --> 00:48:53,289 of murder and child sex abuse 691 00:48:53,314 --> 00:48:57,209 against several high—profile figures has been jailed for 18 years. 692 00:48:57,234 --> 00:49:01,209 The judge said Carl Beech was a manipulative and devious person 693 00:49:01,234 --> 00:49:04,008 who'd fabricated a VIP paedophile ring, 694 00:49:04,033 --> 00:49:07,878 accusing people with the highest integrity of vile acts. 695 00:49:11,754 --> 00:49:16,089 Ultimately, Beech turned out to be a complete malicious hoaxer, 696 00:49:16,114 --> 00:49:17,928 and incredibly dangerous. 697 00:49:20,833 --> 00:49:23,159 They should have given him longer, actually... 698 00:49:24,504 --> 00:49:26,008 ...for the grief he's caused. 699 00:49:29,184 --> 00:49:35,008 I can't fathom why anyone would do that in particular 700 00:49:35,033 --> 00:49:38,089 to a group of random people. 701 00:49:38,114 --> 00:49:41,119 I mean, it is beyond my comprehension, to be honest. 702 00:49:43,314 --> 00:49:44,289 I think... 703 00:49:45,504 --> 00:49:51,239 ...possibly the incentive would be financial. 704 00:49:53,754 --> 00:49:57,089 I don't buy that he was motivated entirely by the money 705 00:49:57,114 --> 00:50:01,199 because £22,000 might seem like a lot of money to some people, 706 00:50:01,224 --> 00:50:03,008 and it is fair chunk of cash, 707 00:50:03,033 --> 00:50:05,959 but he's a middle class guy, he had a decent job, 708 00:50:05,984 --> 00:50:09,159 it's probably about half his salary annually. 709 00:50:09,184 --> 00:50:11,399 In those terms, when you weigh it up against what he did 710 00:50:11,424 --> 00:50:13,399 and what he's been prosecuted for, 711 00:50:13,424 --> 00:50:16,289 the financial motivation doesn't really make much sense. 712 00:50:16,314 --> 00:50:21,569 £22,000 to ruin your life as well as the lives of so many other people, 713 00:50:21,594 --> 00:50:24,878 to serve 18 years in prison, an 18-year sentence, 714 00:50:24,903 --> 00:50:28,878 doesn't seem to be something that would tempt you into doing it. 715 00:50:34,314 --> 00:50:37,959 Possibly the attention he was enjoying. 716 00:50:37,984 --> 00:50:42,289 I mean, if you're suddenly surrounded by press 717 00:50:42,314 --> 00:50:45,839 that are interested in your story, 718 00:50:45,864 --> 00:50:50,319 police that are also interested in your story... 719 00:50:50,344 --> 00:50:53,678 I suppose it's that five minutes of fame. 720 00:50:59,874 --> 00:51:02,159 I think the backlash now against Carl Beech 721 00:51:02,184 --> 00:51:04,928 is to dismiss anything and everything that he said 722 00:51:04,953 --> 00:51:08,849 and to assume that actually he was a liar, a pathological liar, 723 00:51:08,874 --> 00:51:10,519 right from the word go. 724 00:51:11,674 --> 00:51:13,729 I was asked to look into this 725 00:51:13,754 --> 00:51:18,089 and the fairly lurid accusations that he was making. 726 00:51:19,544 --> 00:51:22,159 I think it's possible that something did happen 727 00:51:22,184 --> 00:51:24,798 in the distant past in his childhood. 728 00:51:26,424 --> 00:51:32,649 I still think that what he said about Ray is true. 729 00:51:32,674 --> 00:51:35,599 I don't understand, if that isn't true, 730 00:51:35,624 --> 00:51:38,089 why he would make something like that up. 731 00:51:39,314 --> 00:51:41,089 I have to believe that. 732 00:51:41,114 --> 00:51:43,089 He told me such a long time ago, 733 00:51:43,114 --> 00:51:49,479 why would I not believe what happened with Ray really did happen? 734 00:51:57,334 --> 00:51:59,619 As tempting as it may be to speculate 735 00:51:59,644 --> 00:52:02,898 that Beech's story must contain a kernel of truth, 736 00:52:02,923 --> 00:52:05,389 it seems that even Beech's allegation 737 00:52:05,414 --> 00:52:10,698 that his stepfather, Raymond Beech, abused him was also, in fact, a lie. 738 00:52:12,564 --> 00:52:15,179 Before he went to Wiltshire Police, 739 00:52:15,204 --> 00:52:18,209 he made sure that his stepfather was dead — 740 00:52:18,234 --> 00:52:22,229 in fact, he got a private investigator to check up on that — 741 00:52:22,254 --> 00:52:25,749 so he was free to make whatever allegations he wanted 742 00:52:25,774 --> 00:52:27,259 about his stepfather 743 00:52:27,284 --> 00:52:30,139 without his stepfather being interviewed by the police. 744 00:52:34,614 --> 00:52:38,259 I feel sure that these allegations against him 745 00:52:38,284 --> 00:52:41,229 would never, ever, ever have happened. 746 00:52:41,254 --> 00:52:43,309 Never. 747 00:52:43,334 --> 00:52:45,589 It's alien to his nature. 748 00:52:45,614 --> 00:52:48,229 He was too honest, too above board. 749 00:52:48,254 --> 00:52:50,148 No, it would never have happened. 750 00:52:51,923 --> 00:52:54,778 Explain to me why you're not showing your face, Heather. 751 00:52:54,803 --> 00:52:58,059 I don't particularly want myself and my children 752 00:52:58,084 --> 00:53:00,869 associated with this any more. 753 00:53:00,894 --> 00:53:03,179 It's been such a horrendous time for all of us. 754 00:53:03,204 --> 00:53:04,778 And even though it's been proven 755 00:53:04,803 --> 00:53:07,419 that all of what he said is completely fabricated, 756 00:53:07,444 --> 00:53:09,669 it's the sort of "mud sticks" thing — 757 00:53:09,694 --> 00:53:12,778 you worry that there are still people out there who are saying, 758 00:53:12,803 --> 00:53:15,818 "Where did this come from? "Something must have happened," 759 00:53:15,843 --> 00:53:18,698 whereas we are adamant that absolutely nothing ever did. 760 00:53:20,723 --> 00:53:23,948 And it's so hard when you see that the public figures 761 00:53:23,973 --> 00:53:25,749 have been given official apologies 762 00:53:25,774 --> 00:53:28,948 and they're now getting that sort of level of sympathy 763 00:53:28,973 --> 00:53:30,698 and yet we're still very much 764 00:53:30,723 --> 00:53:33,059 the family of somebody who was accused. 765 00:53:33,084 --> 00:53:36,059 It almost feels as though that name hasn't yet been cleared. 766 00:53:38,694 --> 00:53:42,259 Do you believe that Carl Beech was abused by his stepfather? 767 00:53:42,284 --> 00:53:44,028 I most certainly do not. 768 00:53:44,053 --> 00:53:50,589 The only evidence that he was abused by his stepfather comes from Nick. 769 00:53:50,614 --> 00:53:52,499 There is simply no evidence, 770 00:53:52,524 --> 00:53:54,028 it's as simple as that. 771 00:54:09,364 --> 00:54:13,948 It all comes down to evidence, and it has to come down to evidence — 772 00:54:13,973 --> 00:54:17,309 that is what this country's criminal system is based on. 773 00:54:17,334 --> 00:54:21,698 Does the evidence seem credible beyond reasonable doubt? 774 00:54:21,723 --> 00:54:25,028 And in the Carl Beech case, it clearly didn't, 775 00:54:25,053 --> 00:54:28,869 and that is not just a tragedy, 776 00:54:28,894 --> 00:54:32,459 it is a scandal and has affected and ruined 777 00:54:32,484 --> 00:54:34,539 a significant number of people's lives. 778 00:54:37,124 --> 00:54:41,419 I think if I had not had a very good set of friends and supporters, 779 00:54:41,444 --> 00:54:44,309 you do begin to wonder whether you wouldn't... you know, 780 00:54:44,334 --> 00:54:48,309 have a nervous breakdown or be really quite ill 781 00:54:48,334 --> 00:54:49,749 as a result of the stress. 782 00:54:51,364 --> 00:54:56,028 What saddens me is a man who's had such a distinguished career, 783 00:54:56,053 --> 00:55:01,309 the last four years of his life were really all about Operation Midland. 784 00:55:01,334 --> 00:55:05,059 You know, a time that should have been for sort of quiet reflection 785 00:55:05,084 --> 00:55:06,898 on a life well lived... 786 00:55:09,164 --> 00:55:11,028 ...became a nightmare, really. 787 00:55:11,053 --> 00:55:14,059 Um, I can't really forgive the man for that. 788 00:55:23,514 --> 00:55:29,339 I think Carl has got to realise what he's put me through, 789 00:55:29,364 --> 00:55:31,459 what he's put his mother through, 790 00:55:31,484 --> 00:55:34,179 and what he's put our son through. 791 00:55:35,334 --> 00:55:38,179 It's his mum and his son, you know, 792 00:55:38,204 --> 00:55:44,539 that are really the people that have been seriously damaged by this. 793 00:55:50,803 --> 00:55:54,259 Has his betrayal been traumatic for you? 794 00:55:54,284 --> 00:55:56,589 Mm, yeah, without a doubt. 795 00:55:57,723 --> 00:56:00,778 I had someone who I felt really represented — 796 00:56:00,803 --> 00:56:05,698 or wanted to represent — people who have had no chance in life, 797 00:56:05,723 --> 00:56:09,489 and what he'd done, he's driven a wagon through that, you know, 798 00:56:09,514 --> 00:56:12,339 and smashed the lot up, really. 799 00:56:12,364 --> 00:56:14,459 Total destruction. 800 00:56:14,484 --> 00:56:15,739 Total. 801 00:56:17,334 --> 00:56:21,459 He has set back the cause by a considerable amount. 802 00:56:21,484 --> 00:56:25,259 Not only are people now probably more wary to come forward, 803 00:56:25,284 --> 00:56:28,698 there's now a suspicion that anybody who brings an accusation 804 00:56:28,723 --> 00:56:32,419 of childhood sexual abuse is making it up like Beech did, 805 00:56:32,444 --> 00:56:34,898 and that's a whole area of damage 806 00:56:34,923 --> 00:56:37,698 that will last for many years to come. 807 00:56:42,803 --> 00:56:47,669 "The men enjoyed what they did with always a grin. 808 00:56:47,694 --> 00:56:51,339 "They hurt me in ways you just can't imagine." 809 00:56:52,803 --> 00:56:55,948 "The counselling has been intense and gone really fast, 810 00:56:55,973 --> 00:56:58,898 "dealing with the nightmare and reliving the past." 811 00:57:00,923 --> 00:57:03,948 "Some powerful men were at the heart of the group, 812 00:57:03,973 --> 00:57:06,869 "they are now being tackled so, at last, there's hope." 813 00:57:08,564 --> 00:57:12,419 "| know some of them will get away, 814 00:57:12,444 --> 00:57:17,778 "but despite it all, I survived here to stay." 815 00:57:23,154 --> 00:57:25,309 Was this in his blogs? Yes. 816 00:57:27,614 --> 00:57:30,459 Even one verse — would you even do me one verse? 817 00:57:31,694 --> 00:57:33,589 Oh, God. 818 00:57:33,614 --> 00:57:35,898 I couldn't read that. 819 00:57:35,923 --> 00:57:38,229 MUSIC: Would I Lie To You? by Charles 81 Eddie 820 00:57:40,484 --> 00:57:44,379 # No, no, no, baby 821 00:57:44,404 --> 00:57:47,669 # Mm-mm-mm H00 822 00:57:47,694 --> 00:57:50,539 # My, my, my, my, my girl Look into my eyes 823 00:57:50,564 --> 00:57:53,059 # Would I lie to you? Would I lie to you, baby? 824 00:57:53,084 --> 00:57:56,099 # Would I lie to you? 825 00:57:56,124 --> 00:58:00,059 # Look into my eyes, can't you see they're open wide? 826 00:58:00,084 --> 00:58:04,698 # Would I lie to you, baby, would I lie to you? 827 00:58:04,723 --> 00:58:06,229 # Oh, yeah... #67950

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