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When I first entered St John's,
I loved it.
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The campus of that school
was beautiful.
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Such magnificent stonework.
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It was like a castle.
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I loved that school.
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Our school had a magnificent statue
of Jesus Christ
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with his hands lovingly placed
on the heads of two children.
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I could see that Jesus
loved children.
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And the children
loved Jesus too.
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My name is Gary Smith.
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I was four in 1954 and I really
liked being at school.
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I liked being in the dorm.
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The dorm was cooler than being
at home with my parents,
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because I didn't have
any siblings.
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When I first got to
the school, I loved it,
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because there were
so many children
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around the same age as me
who I could play with
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and they were good people,
it was a good group of friends.
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In 1953, I was four years old.
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I remember when I got there,
I couldn't stop crying.
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Then, I was looking up at a nun,
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she was wearing
her black-and-white robes.
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I was looking at the nun
and my parents left.
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Every morning, we'd have mass.
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The priest would use incense
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and the smell
would fill the room.
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I felt like we were in heaven.
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I wanted to be a Catholic,
like everyone else.
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And so, when I was ten,
Father Murphy baptized me.
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Murphy would hug children.
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All the kids just loved him,
they always flocked to him.
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He would play with the kids
and the nuns would stand around
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and just watching and smiling.
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I wanted Murphy's attention,
like all the other kids, I needed him.
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He was like
a second father to me.
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He had this ability
like the Pied Piper -
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to just get all rats to follow him
and do whatever he wanted.
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Father Murphy knew how to sign
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and he could communicate
with all the kids.
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He was a hearing man who could sign
and sign very well.
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I remember looking at him
and thinking,
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"Wow, that's
really impressive."
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Lawrence Murphy was raised
in Milwaukee, Wisconsin
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and entered the St Francis Seminary
in 1943.
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After he was ordained
as a priest in 1950,
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he moved next door on assignment
to St John's School For The Deaf.
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He had a knack for public
speaking and fundraising
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and, by 1963, he was promoted
to director of St John's.
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After Father Murphy baptized me,
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I felt proud,
I felt better.
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I was excited and couldn't wait to have
my first communion when I was 12.
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Later on, I got
into trouble at school.
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I was mischievous and
the nuns would come and say,
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"Go to Father's room."
And so, I did.
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In the confessional booth,
there was a dividing wall.
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But there was a little space
that you could see his face through.
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So you could sign back and forth.
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And he would bless you.
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I filled out
the confession form.
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The form listed stealing, lying,
sex and things like that.
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I would mark things off
and turn it in.
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Father Murphy looked at it and then
asked me really weird questions like,
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"Have you been with other boys?"
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I would say:
"I played with myself."
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And he would ask
detailed questions,
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like "How?" or
"What did you do?"
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And then he said,
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"OK. I want to see you
in my office this afternoon!"
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So I said, "OK",
and left the booth,
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and kneel to pray.
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He asked me, "Have you been
playing with your penis?"
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And I told him,
"No."
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But he gave me one of his looks.
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And it scared me. So I admitted
that, yeah, I play with myself.
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He told me to pull down my pants
and to do it right there.
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So I played with myself
for a little bit.
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He watched me intently
until I was done.
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Then, he told me
that God forgave me
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and I felt like my sins
had been wiped away.
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He could have been playing
with himself for all I know,
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but I couldn't see.
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I remember one afternoon
I went to Murphy's office
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and he closed the door
and he told me to take off my pants.
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And I said,
"Take off my pants?"
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I was shocked. And I thought,
"Why would I have to do that?"
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And I was looking at this man
in a black suit, the white-collar,
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and I thought to myself, "He's a
priest and I'm supposed to obey him."
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So I took my pants down
and he molested me.
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I felt sick and confused.
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"Why would a priest
do that to me?
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"Is this supposed to be OK? Did I do
something wrong?" I didn't know.
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After it happened,
I just left.
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And I just kept it to myself.
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Later on,
Father Murphy decided
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that confessional would be
on the second floor, in the closet.
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I confessed my sins.
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I was forgiven and blessed,
and then I was touched.
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I started sweating like crazy...
... so nervous.
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I just feel myself shaking
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Just kept thinking:
Enough! Enough!
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when father murphy stopped,
I went to bed right away.
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And I was just sick,
I was just sick.
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And I lied in bed,
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under the covers
and I felt absolutely disgusted.
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I was a monk,
I was a very pious monk.
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I folded my hands, kept my eyes
down, did my studies.
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I lived in the system.
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Richard Sipe spent 18 years
as a Benedictine monk.
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He was also a therapist
counselling his fellow priests.
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Sex in celibacy became central
to my research and understanding.
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Sipe began what became
a 25-year study
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examining celibacy
in the priesthood.
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My intent was that this would help
in the training of priests.
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I felt that I could
make a contribution
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by being honest
about it.
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The data showed
that at any one time,
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no more than 50% of American Roman
Catholic priests were practicing celibacy.
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There were certain levels
of experimentation,
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relationships, involvement
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and even criminal involvement
with children.
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And the more I got into it,
the more and more discouraged I got.
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They know that celibacy
is not practiced.
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By "they", I mean
Vatican authorities,
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I mean bishops,
I mean religious superiors.
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And the higher you go,
the more they know.
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You may not be keeping
your celibacy,
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but as long as it's secret, it's OK.
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Sipe found that clericalism,
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setting a priest on a pedestal
above ordinary lay people,
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helped to prop up the secret system.
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Kids would come forward
to their parents and say,
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"Well, Father did this to me."
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"Oh, don't you say that!
You can't say that about a priest!"
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Which then allowed priests
to express themselves sexually,
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some from time to time
and some in horrendous ways.
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Sipe recognised the syndrome that
police call Noble Cause Corruption -
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a belief that good intentions
purify bad behaviour.
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For a priest, belief in his own
goodness can transform,
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like turning bread
into the body of Christ,
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a perversion into a holy act.
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A priest who had an affair
with this 12, 13-year-old girl
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brought to one of their encounters
what he said was a consecrated host
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and he touched it to
her vagina and he said,
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"This is how God loves you."
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And then,
he raped her.
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It goes from just
this broad social acceptance
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that the priest is perfect,
the Pope is perfect,
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to this kind of perversion of power
that can be twisted in this way.
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The system
of the Catholic clergy,
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for which I have great respect
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and to which I have given
many years of my life,
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selects, cultivates, protects,
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defends and produces
sexual abusers.
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I went to bed one night
and, before I fell asleep,
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I could see Murphy
creeping into our room,
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like a ravenous wolf.
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I could see him sit on a bed
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in the dim light
of the illuminated exit sign.
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And I saw that he was
molesting a boy.
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I imagined Jesus crying
on the cross with a broken heart
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wondering why Murphy
was doing this.
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Why was Jesus just watching?
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He would walk in like a cat.
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Of course we couldn't hear him,
but someone would open their eyes
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and see a dark shadow passing by
and they knew it was him.
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I would see how he would go
and pick out certain boys.
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He knew which boys wouldn't object
if he went to them.
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The boys noticed that Father Murphy
would single out students
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with hearing parents
who couldn't sign
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so that the children
couldn't tell their parents
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what was happening to them.
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He favoured me. He wanted me.
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He wanted me.
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He liked seeing me ejaculate.
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He got what he wanted and he would
leave, that was his thing.
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He was...
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sick.
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I was afraid to tell my mother
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because I didn't think
she would believe me.
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She'd say, "A priest would never do
something like that to children."
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I kept it a secret.
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My mother had already been
through so much pain.
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My brother
had been electrocuted,
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my father
had hung himself.
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My mother had been through so much
pain and I didn't want to hurt her.
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It was hard for me
to communicate with my father
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and so, my dad would speak and
Father Murphy would interpret.
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My father never wrote back and forth
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because I didn't know
how to write well,
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so I depended on Father Murphy
and the nuns
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to communicate with my father.
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My parents were hearing,
so we used home signs,
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not true American Sign Language.
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We had some gestures for things like
eating and for how the scolded me,
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but they wouldn't actually sign
"Bad",
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they would wag their finger at me.
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And there was no TTY,
and my parents were far away,
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so how could we possibly
have communicated?
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Murphy took advantage
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of children in that situation.
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My question is,
what about the sisters?
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Where were the nuns who were supposed
to be watching the children?
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The nuns should have been
able to hear,
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but they turned their heads
and looked the other way.
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Murphy wasn't the only one
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that nuns should have heard
creeping through the dorms at night.
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Murphy enlisted older boys
in an organized system of abuse.
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One of these was Tom Tannehill,
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a high-school student who
had been molested by Murphy.
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As a dorm supervisor,
Tom had used threats of discipline
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to force victim
to perform oral sex on him.
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Pat Kuehn was only seven
when Tom first molested him.
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He now believes that Tom
was breaking him in for Murphy.
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I was very innocent, naive.
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After the first time Tom played
with me, I got used to it.
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I felt so excited that he chose me
out of all the others.
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It made me
feel special.
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Bambi was the first movie
that I watched with captioning.
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Which was really exciting.
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I was sitting towards the back
of the audience, on the boys' side,
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Father Murphy walked up behind me and
pushed me in the back of the head.
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So I looked up and I waived because
I thought he was just saying hi.
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And then,
I went back to watching.
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And he nudged me again,
so I acknowledged him.
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I think about it now
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and it was probably his penis
bumping up against me.
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He was playing with me.
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In 1963, Father Murphy
went away for a few weeks.
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During his absence,
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there was a visiting priest
from Chicago named Father Walsh.
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I could see Father Walsh signing
and I was watching him
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and I thought, "You know what? I'm
going to try my best to tell him."
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I think it was in confession.
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And so, I told Father Walsh
about Father Murphy molesting me.
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He didn't say anything, but I could
see his facial expression change.
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A week went by and I knew his last
day was going to be Friday
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and Father Murphy
had come back.
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Father Murphy comes walking
into my classroom
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and called Father Walsh.
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When I saw that, I knew this was it.
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I got up from my chair
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and I went and peeked around
the coroner from my classroom.
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I could see Father Walsh and Father
Murphy getting into a huge fight
down the hallway.
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I went back and sat at my desk
and I didn't say a word about it.
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Murphy came back
and nothing was ever said.
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The following year, I was hoping
Father Walsh would return,
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but he didn't come back.
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He didn't come back the second year,
he didn't come back the third year,
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he just never came back.
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During the summer months,
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Murphy would take some of the boys
up to his cabin,
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in northern Wisconsin.
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Murphy would ask the boys
to choose
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which one of them would sleep
in the bed with him.
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They all pointed at me to have to
sleep in the same bed as Father Murphy
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And Father Murphy
molested me again
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But I never touched him,
I refused,
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... but he would touch me.
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And everybody knew that,
and they just left me alone,
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and didn't say anything.
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Father Murphy asked who was
going to sleep with him.
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and all of us pointed at this kid,
Joe, and said, "He is."
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I didn't want to be picked.
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Poor Joe, I feel bad
that we picked him.
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Murphy encouraged many of the children
he abused to raise money for St John's.
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As deft students they
were told to target bars
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with sympathetic drinkers
who were more free with their money.
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Terry raised so much money
he won a motorbyke.
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When Murphy took Gary and
the other seniors on a road trip
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to look at colleges
in Washington and New York,
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he molested Gary
almost every night.
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I was afraid if I said "No",
he would be mad.
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I just didn't know what to do.
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I got used to it and didn't care.
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I just wanted to graduate
and get out of there and feel better.
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You know, between the ages
of 26 and 31, I was baptized
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in a very radical way
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to know that this
wasn't an anomaly,
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that this
was a pattern,
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that there are treatment centers.
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Before ordination,
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I had no idea that we had treatment
centers around the world
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for priests to go to
when they sexually molested,
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raped and sodomized kids.
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I didn't know that.
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My parents didn't know that.
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I didn't know that we had
55 molesters in my monastery.
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I didn't know there were
more than 70 molesters
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operating in the US dioceses.
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That wasn't public knowledge.
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Shortly after his ordination,
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at St John's Abbey,
in Collegeville, Minnesota,
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Patrick Wall was given
a special assignment -
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traveling the country putting out
fires for the Church.
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The sexually abusive priest
has to be completely removed,
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his stuff was removed,
and then, there's another guy,
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basically, another black-and-white
who's placed in there,
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to make sure that
the normal things happen -
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that people are baptized, people
are married, people are buried
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and the normal life
of the parish can continue.
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I thought I was going there
to uncover the crime,
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to heal the wounds,
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I thought it was pastoral care,
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you know, comfort the afflicted,
what we're ordained for.
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But the people sending me in
obviously had ulterior motives.
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You know, they would give you
authorization
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up to $250,000 to settle a case
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if you could get
a confidentiality order.
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And, in 1995, we had a budget
of $7 million
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to handle the various problems
of childhood sexual abuse.
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And most people don't want
to have anything go public.
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I mean, in the Catholic mindset,
you don't sue the Church.
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They want to know
that it's going to stop.
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When Wall found out
that it didn't stop,
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that offending priests were allowed
to stay in ministry,
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he left the priesthood.
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That was part of your brief,
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to report these things
to the local authorities?
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Never.
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That's the worldwide policy -
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to snuff out scandal.
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Bob Bolger was another student
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who was abused at St John's
by Father Murphy.
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After graduating from college,
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he began hanging out
with Arthur and Gary
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and found an unexpected way back
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to memories of St John's.
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HE PANTS
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I started getting these
revelations, these memories.
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Finally, I woke up
and I was furious
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00:27:14,029 --> 00:27:17,398
and the more we worked on it,
the angrier I got.
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I had kept this
quiet for so long
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and not said
anything to anyone.
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00:27:24,348 --> 00:27:27,302
It suddenly hit me
just how wrong this was.
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00:27:28,412 --> 00:27:32,562
And Bob was like,
"Go to the police station, now, go!"
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00:27:32,639 --> 00:27:34,921
And Gary was thrown off guard.
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00:27:35,181 --> 00:27:37,961
And Bob said,
"If you're angry, Gary, then go.
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"Go to the police station. Now, go!"
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I've got to tell you-
I'm shaking
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We went out to the police
station and went in.
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00:27:50,231 --> 00:27:53,023
Bob was writing back and forth
with the officer
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because he had
good English skills.
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And then, two police officers
told us to stay in a room.
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And we waited and waited and waited.
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00:28:04,970 --> 00:28:08,613
And I went to open the door
and the door was locked.
347
00:28:08,895 --> 00:28:13,800
And then, two detectives came into
the room and said, "You can go."
348
00:28:13,857 --> 00:28:16,777
And we were all excited
about being able to leave.
349
00:28:17,043 --> 00:28:20,909
And guessing that the detectives
had already talked to Murphy.
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We waited for a week to go by,
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00:28:26,426 --> 00:28:28,684
then another week went by
and then another.
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We didn't hear a thing.
It was just sickening.
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00:28:32,425 --> 00:28:37,116
Murphy had told them that it wasn't
true and the kids were making it up.
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That we were just
little troublemakers.
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00:28:40,707 --> 00:28:43,183
It started to bother
me more and more
356
00:28:43,269 --> 00:28:45,951
because I was hearing
that he was molesting other kids.
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00:28:46,012 --> 00:28:49,452
I was mad and I wanted
to protect these deaf kids.
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00:28:49,484 --> 00:28:53,437
And it was time to do something
about it. And we did.
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00:28:54,155 --> 00:28:55,811
It was Bob's idea.
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We didn't put the reason why
on the flyer,
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we just wanted it to be
a warning to people.
362
00:29:06,787 --> 00:29:08,962
When the school would hold
a fundraiser,
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00:29:09,033 --> 00:29:11,264
they'd go to the cars
that were parked at the school
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00:29:11,327 --> 00:29:12,873
and they would put this flyer,
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00:29:12,929 --> 00:29:17,664
you know, don't give money to this
man because he abuses these kids.
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00:29:17,734 --> 00:29:21,109
I was shocked
and I tried to advise Bob
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00:29:21,244 --> 00:29:26,595
that, you know, this was not really
the way to fix this.
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00:29:29,369 --> 00:29:31,770
He was caught up in the era
of activism
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00:29:31,824 --> 00:29:35,040
and he was really trying
to get deaf people
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to kind of stand up for themselves.
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00:29:38,736 --> 00:29:42,235
At John Conway's suggestion,
they hired a lawyer
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00:29:42,292 --> 00:29:46,115
and began collecting sworn
affidavits from Murphy's victims.
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The idea was to submit
these affidavits,
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00:29:48,993 --> 00:29:50,818
which were very graphic
and very clear,
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00:29:50,888 --> 00:29:56,239
to Archbishop Cousins and then, we
thought the matter would be finished,
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00:29:56,276 --> 00:29:59,138
we thought that the priest would be
removed from the school.
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00:29:59,704 --> 00:30:03,044
The Church's response was silence.
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00:30:04,035 --> 00:30:06,467
Determined to make
their voices heard,
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00:30:06,523 --> 00:30:09,740
Bob, Arthur and Gary
went to the Milwaukee Cathedral
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00:30:09,793 --> 00:30:12,271
and handed out their flyers
to passers-by.
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00:30:12,334 --> 00:30:17,654
Suddenly, they were granted
a meeting with Archbishop Cousins.
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00:30:17,734 --> 00:30:20,296
The Archbishop was there,
Father Murphy was there.
383
00:30:20,350 --> 00:30:23,390
In fact, Father Murphy
sat right next to me.
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00:30:23,535 --> 00:30:25,968
He would look down, look around,
385
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,647
he was not going to make
eye contact with us.
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00:30:29,580 --> 00:30:32,101
There were some
teachers from the school,
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00:30:32,132 --> 00:30:35,780
several leaders that I knew in the deaf
community that were there
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00:30:35,820 --> 00:30:39,468
to speak in support of
Father Murphy
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00:30:39,687 --> 00:30:42,187
In the group were two priests.
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00:30:42,279 --> 00:30:46,998
They were described by the Archbishop
as members of the Vatican.
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00:30:47,224 --> 00:30:50,250
And the Archbishop thanked us
for bringing this matter
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00:30:50,321 --> 00:30:52,055
to the attention
of the Archdiocese.
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00:30:52,150 --> 00:30:55,321
He allowed that this problem
had existed before,
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00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,791
and he mentioned that
back as far as 1960,
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00:30:58,862 --> 00:31:00,711
this matter had been addressed.
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00:31:01,627 --> 00:31:03,651
Cousins would deny having said this,
397
00:31:03,735 --> 00:31:07,885
but an investigation revealed
that, even before 1960,
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00:31:07,938 --> 00:31:10,930
Father Walsh had tried to do
something about Murphy.
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00:31:11,484 --> 00:31:14,845
Having heard complaints from Arthur
and from other students,
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00:31:14,845 --> 00:31:18,103
Walsh reported the accusations
to Cousins' predecessor,
401
00:31:18,228 --> 00:31:20,126
Archbishop Meyer.
402
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,498
Meyer went to Murphy
and he confessed to the abuse,
403
00:31:23,663 --> 00:31:26,384
but Murphy was not dismissed.
404
00:31:26,665 --> 00:31:28,812
He went away in a short retreat
405
00:31:28,900 --> 00:31:30,587
before being invited back
406
00:31:30,669 --> 00:31:33,488
to supervise children at St John's.
407
00:31:35,247 --> 00:31:38,334
Other deaf people had told
Father Walsh
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00:31:38,475 --> 00:31:41,699
and then, Father Walsh
told Meyer in 1957.
409
00:31:41,918 --> 00:31:45,558
And then, I said something in 1963.
410
00:31:47,237 --> 00:31:50,261
It turned out that Walsh
had made the same report
411
00:31:50,346 --> 00:31:52,266
to the office of the Papal Nuncio,
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00:31:52,376 --> 00:31:55,233
the Vatican Ambassador
in Washington DC.
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00:31:56,216 --> 00:31:59,291
So by this meeting, in 1974,
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00:31:59,391 --> 00:32:03,838
the Vatican had known about Murphy
for almost 20 years.
415
00:32:04,279 --> 00:32:07,955
This was known and it had been
dealt with in the past.
416
00:32:08,006 --> 00:32:12,951
So there was just no question
about the validity of the complaints
417
00:32:13,716 --> 00:32:17,782
We immediately said Father Murphy
has to be removed from the school.
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00:32:18,584 --> 00:32:22,255
Murphy said, "No, I take care of the
budget and the money and everything."
419
00:32:22,388 --> 00:32:24,716
And Archbishop Cousins
got very angry.
420
00:32:24,834 --> 00:32:27,550
He started scolding
and arguing with us.
421
00:32:27,620 --> 00:32:31,615
I'm thinking, "Wow, I can't believe
this. Where was his compassion?
422
00:32:31,677 --> 00:32:33,686
"Where was his wanting
to listen to this?"
423
00:32:33,872 --> 00:32:37,830
So we eventually kind of walked out,
the Archbishop's saying to me
424
00:32:37,885 --> 00:32:40,510
that he was very upset because
he thought he was dealing
425
00:32:40,589 --> 00:32:42,386
with a person of good faith.
426
00:32:43,712 --> 00:32:47,986
I told him I thought I was dealing
with a person of good faith as well.
427
00:32:53,188 --> 00:32:57,485
When deposed years later Archbishop
Cousins recalled the meeting,
428
00:32:57,562 --> 00:33:01,743
he said that, at the time, he did
not find the allegations credible.
429
00:33:01,924 --> 00:33:05,821
He had conducted an investigation
and found no proof.
430
00:33:06,792 --> 00:33:08,821
When asked what steps he had taken
431
00:33:08,897 --> 00:33:11,232
to determine the veracity
of the allegations,
432
00:33:11,365 --> 00:33:14,975
Cousins said that he had interviewed
Murphy and the school staff.
433
00:33:15,673 --> 00:33:18,318
When the lawyer asked
if he had interviewed students,
434
00:33:18,420 --> 00:33:21,420
Cousins admitted that he hadn't
bothered to talk to them.
435
00:33:21,714 --> 00:33:25,539
"After all," he said,
"The students are deaf."
436
00:33:27,793 --> 00:33:32,316
After getting nowhere with Archdiocese
and being told by the Police
437
00:33:32,353 --> 00:33:34,326
that the Statute of
Limitations had past
438
00:33:34,962 --> 00:33:38,386
the men approached the Milwaukee
DA's office with their concerns
439
00:33:38,441 --> 00:33:40,074
about ongoing abuse.
440
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:45,316
Bob Bolger, Gary and I went to the
Milwaukee Courthouse downtown.
441
00:33:45,503 --> 00:33:48,284
And we started handing out
these flyers.
442
00:33:49,274 --> 00:33:52,300
And all the hearing people
were shocked.
443
00:33:56,816 --> 00:34:00,640
And Bob put the flyer
on DA Michael McCann's desk.
444
00:34:01,714 --> 00:34:05,000
Nobody talked to us,
we said nothing,
445
00:34:05,041 --> 00:34:06,922
we just kept handing them out.
446
00:34:07,110 --> 00:34:09,851
The DA's office took notice
of the flyers
447
00:34:09,937 --> 00:34:14,351
and granted the men a meeting
with then Assistant DA Bill Gardner.
448
00:34:14,715 --> 00:34:19,624
Gardner went out to St John's
to question students in the senior
boys' dormitory.
449
00:34:20,126 --> 00:34:24,071
They met in our dorm,
about six of the boys.
450
00:34:24,108 --> 00:34:27,475
The meeting only lasted
about 15, 20 minutes,
451
00:34:27,522 --> 00:34:30,123
cos they all said,
"No, no, nothing is going on."
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00:34:30,177 --> 00:34:31,787
And it didn't take long, it was over.
453
00:34:32,441 --> 00:34:33,990
I was kind of surprised,
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00:34:34,056 --> 00:34:36,303
cos two of the gentlemen in the dorm
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00:34:36,418 --> 00:34:39,128
loved to argue
and debate anything
456
00:34:39,215 --> 00:34:41,816
and they were quiet
as a church mouse.
457
00:34:42,744 --> 00:34:45,641
With no active students
willing to come forward
458
00:34:45,829 --> 00:34:47,870
the brief investigation ended.
459
00:34:48,016 --> 00:34:51,219
McCann's office said it did not
investigate past claims,
460
00:34:51,430 --> 00:34:54,351
because of the Statute
of Limitations
461
00:34:55,092 --> 00:34:57,224
But Gary, Bob
and Arthur believed
462
00:34:57,279 --> 00:34:59,513
that their charges
were not taken seriously
463
00:34:59,752 --> 00:35:02,830
because McCann and Gardner
were devout Catholics.
464
00:35:04,540 --> 00:35:07,580
Gardner in his commentary
of St John's
465
00:35:07,830 --> 00:35:10,900
We are talking about
the oath of a priest here.
466
00:35:11,267 --> 00:35:13,455
We're not gonna just go
467
00:35:13,533 --> 00:35:16,478
head on to ruining
this man's life.
468
00:35:19,587 --> 00:35:22,876
The DA's office never brought
charges against Murphy,
469
00:35:23,126 --> 00:35:26,406
but at the school,
the matter was not forgotten.
470
00:35:27,095 --> 00:35:31,653
One of the gentlemen in the dorm
had come by the door to my room,
471
00:35:31,732 --> 00:35:34,028
it was about 10.30, 11 at night.
472
00:35:34,110 --> 00:35:36,953
And he said, "We want to
talk to you about Murphy."
473
00:35:36,990 --> 00:35:40,774
You know, that's when they opened up
about some of the stuff.
474
00:35:43,761 --> 00:35:46,433
So I was thinking
I need to try to,
475
00:35:46,496 --> 00:35:48,863
you know, help them
get to the bottom of this.
476
00:35:49,948 --> 00:35:52,244
So I did call the
Archbishop's office
477
00:35:53,076 --> 00:35:56,794
and I just said, "I have some stuff
on the Father Murphy case
478
00:35:56,842 --> 00:35:59,341
"that I think the Archbishop
needs to hear."
479
00:36:00,774 --> 00:36:03,986
He and I just met alone
and I told him,
480
00:36:04,063 --> 00:36:07,306
"Father Murphy admitted to me
that he is molesting boys,"
481
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,267
I said, "I have dates and times"
482
00:36:10,383 --> 00:36:12,978
and I said, "I'm going to go
to the parents."
483
00:36:14,290 --> 00:36:16,665
Almost immediately,
it was announced
484
00:36:16,701 --> 00:36:20,509
that Father Murphy would leave
St John's for health reasons.
485
00:36:21,650 --> 00:36:24,699
The writer for the Milwaukee
Sentinel who covered the story
486
00:36:24,778 --> 00:36:27,692
included the allegations
against Murphy in her draft.
487
00:36:29,205 --> 00:36:33,043
But the newspaper's editor removed
any mention of sexual abuse.
488
00:36:34,962 --> 00:36:38,531
Terry had just returned
to St John's to teach history
489
00:36:38,633 --> 00:36:41,258
after graduating
from Gallaudet University.
490
00:36:41,869 --> 00:36:44,039
With his new Super 8 camera,
491
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,521
he filmed Murphy's departure.
492
00:36:46,669 --> 00:36:48,920
I remember filming Murphy leaving
493
00:36:49,025 --> 00:36:51,615
and knowing that Murphy
was a paedophile.
494
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,182
The children thought that Murphy was
leaving because of health reasons,
495
00:36:55,214 --> 00:36:59,049
but I knew he was leaving
because he had molested children.
496
00:37:17,892 --> 00:37:20,265
The children lined up
to shake his hand.
497
00:37:21,514 --> 00:37:26,132
And through tears,
Murphy said goodbye to each of them.
498
00:37:48,020 --> 00:37:51,372
Father Fitzgerald started out
as a priest in Boston
499
00:37:51,495 --> 00:37:54,575
and priests come to him
who have sexually offended,
500
00:37:54,635 --> 00:37:56,372
so he knows he needs
to do something.
501
00:37:56,489 --> 00:37:59,755
He formed an order,
the Order of the Paracletes
502
00:37:59,839 --> 00:38:03,591
in order to treat
paedophile priests.
503
00:38:04,223 --> 00:38:07,433
The first Servants of
the Paraclete treatment center
504
00:38:07,533 --> 00:38:11,590
was opened in Jemez Springs,
New Mexico, in 1947.
505
00:38:11,706 --> 00:38:15,361
Father Fitzgerald did not believe
in psychology or counselling.
506
00:38:15,412 --> 00:38:17,443
He favoured spiritual treatment,
507
00:38:17,555 --> 00:38:19,910
hoping that sex offenders
and alcoholics
508
00:38:19,995 --> 00:38:23,591
would find salvation on their knees,
praying for mercy.
509
00:38:24,125 --> 00:38:27,763
But on one point Father Fitzgerald
was absolutely clear -
510
00:38:27,865 --> 00:38:30,343
sexual predators should be defrocked
511
00:38:30,411 --> 00:38:33,723
or hidden from the faithful
behind monastery walls.
512
00:38:33,799 --> 00:38:38,942
He came to the conclusion that
priests who sexually abuse children
are like vipers -
513
00:38:39,300 --> 00:38:41,382
you can never stop them.
514
00:38:41,468 --> 00:38:45,358
The only thing you can do is remove
them from their target population
515
00:38:45,399 --> 00:38:48,358
and make them live a life
of prayer and penance.
516
00:38:48,720 --> 00:38:52,521
He wrote to the Pope,
he constantly wrote to bishops
517
00:38:52,576 --> 00:38:54,818
and he said,
"Look, this is a terrible problem.
518
00:38:54,878 --> 00:38:58,159
"Paedophilia is infesting
lots of seminaries,
519
00:38:58,225 --> 00:39:00,279
"you've got to do
something about it."
520
00:39:00,595 --> 00:39:03,837
So, he thought,
"Let's get an island!
521
00:39:03,895 --> 00:39:06,314
"You can't stop them,
but you can contain them.
522
00:39:06,344 --> 00:39:08,704
"Let's get an island
in the Caribbean."
523
00:39:10,863 --> 00:39:14,574
He sent a priest out,
he was looking in Barbados,
524
00:39:14,625 --> 00:39:17,007
he was looking in various islands
525
00:39:17,046 --> 00:39:22,327
and they went ahead and they actually
did begin the process to buy an island.
526
00:39:22,381 --> 00:39:25,991
It was the island of Carriacou,
off the coast of Grenada,
527
00:39:26,029 --> 00:39:28,881
famous for its nutmeg
and beautiful beaches.
528
00:39:29,525 --> 00:39:33,412
The Church put a $5,000
down payment on Carriacou,
529
00:39:34,100 --> 00:39:39,068
but Church superiors overruled the idea
of an island for paedophile priests.
530
00:39:39,256 --> 00:39:43,407
Then, the Church hierarchy
decided to change the policy
of the Paracletes.
531
00:39:43,493 --> 00:39:46,038
Instead of removing priests
from victims,
532
00:39:46,093 --> 00:39:49,530
the centers attempted to
rehabilitate and recirculate them.
533
00:39:49,812 --> 00:39:51,647
From the 50s to the 90s,
534
00:39:51,701 --> 00:39:54,366
the Servants of the Paraclete
spent $80 million
535
00:39:54,425 --> 00:39:56,854
treating more than 2,000 priests
536
00:39:57,072 --> 00:39:59,789
in special centers in Italy, France,
537
00:39:59,844 --> 00:40:05,515
Great Britain, Africa,
South America and the Philippines.
538
00:40:13,046 --> 00:40:16,520
Lawrence Murphy retreated
to his cabin in Boulder Junction,
539
00:40:17,312 --> 00:40:19,778
a small town in northern Wisconsin.
540
00:40:21,554 --> 00:40:24,743
He was assigned to a local church,
St Anne's.
541
00:40:24,972 --> 00:40:29,141
But the parish was not told
anything about Murphy's past.
542
00:40:30,118 --> 00:40:33,102
Murphy continued to abuse
local children.
543
00:40:36,859 --> 00:40:40,700
Back in Milwaukee, Gary Smith
decided to tell his father
544
00:40:40,755 --> 00:40:44,122
about the abuse he suffered
as a teenager.
545
00:40:44,867 --> 00:40:48,926
John Conway did the interpreting
and explained it to my father
546
00:40:49,065 --> 00:40:51,663
and he was very upset.
547
00:40:51,734 --> 00:40:53,913
And that's when my dad
lost his temper
548
00:40:53,983 --> 00:40:56,221
and decided to contact a lawyer.
549
00:40:56,296 --> 00:40:59,715
They decided to file a lawsuit
against the Archdiocese,
550
00:40:59,768 --> 00:41:02,619
the school and Father Murphy.
551
00:41:03,031 --> 00:41:04,551
Nuns from the school
552
00:41:04,614 --> 00:41:07,731
and other supporters of Father
Murphy within the deaf community
553
00:41:07,866 --> 00:41:10,113
began showing up
at Gary's apartment,
554
00:41:10,203 --> 00:41:13,230
pressuring him to drop the lawsuit.
555
00:41:13,765 --> 00:41:16,984
Then, mysteriously,
the matter was settled.
556
00:41:17,125 --> 00:41:21,195
Father Murphy agreed to pay $500
for Gary's legal fees
557
00:41:21,559 --> 00:41:26,360
and St John's offered Gary the sum of
a few thousand dollars for counselling.
558
00:41:26,429 --> 00:41:30,507
The deal was struck after a nun
called Sister Martha Ann visited Gary,
559
00:41:30,829 --> 00:41:32,890
who had no-one to translate for him,
560
00:41:33,148 --> 00:41:36,398
and persuaded Gary to sign
an unusual document
561
00:41:36,437 --> 00:41:40,007
in which he dropped the case
and apologized to the Church.
562
00:41:40,132 --> 00:41:42,899
He, of course, is deaf
and marginality literate.
563
00:41:43,243 --> 00:41:48,461
Not all deaf people are illiterate,
but English is not their language.
564
00:41:49,050 --> 00:41:53,899
They coerced and tricked him
into a settlement.
565
00:42:24,734 --> 00:42:26,702
Despite Gary's apology,
566
00:42:26,772 --> 00:42:30,717
the Church failed to pay
the $5,000 for his therapy
567
00:42:30,810 --> 00:42:32,328
for 20 years.
568
00:42:39,538 --> 00:42:44,717
Father Doyle is an early
whistleblower in the scandal.
569
00:42:44,821 --> 00:42:48,428
He's working for the Papal Nuncio
in Washington,
570
00:42:48,456 --> 00:42:52,635
he's beginning to see some of the
communication about these cases
571
00:42:52,661 --> 00:42:54,809
and is realizing that
572
00:42:55,033 --> 00:42:57,869
it could be a bigger
problem than just...
573
00:42:57,928 --> 00:43:01,138
...a couple bad apples,
a bad priest here or there.
574
00:43:01,337 --> 00:43:05,951
He initially tries to work
within Church channels
575
00:43:06,007 --> 00:43:09,380
and he thinks that there's going
to be a response.
576
00:43:09,602 --> 00:43:14,874
When there isn't, he eventually
becomes a public whistleblower.
577
00:43:15,704 --> 00:43:20,757
The attitude from the Vatican was,
"We don't turn our priests in.
578
00:43:20,863 --> 00:43:22,723
"This is our problem,
we take care of it,
579
00:43:22,768 --> 00:43:25,449
"you don't refer to the civil
authorities
580
00:43:25,527 --> 00:43:27,347
"when they're committing
felony crimes."
581
00:43:27,418 --> 00:43:30,534
Now, I don't know what they would have done
if it would have been a slew of murders.
582
00:43:30,837 --> 00:43:35,716
He has remained in the Church while
being both a critic of the Church
583
00:43:35,782 --> 00:43:40,161
and an expert witness
in lawsuits against the Church.
584
00:43:40,727 --> 00:43:43,381
I first became aware
of the Murphy case
585
00:43:43,434 --> 00:43:45,566
when it became publicly known
586
00:43:45,622 --> 00:43:48,700
and I was asked to evaluate
some of the information.
587
00:43:49,623 --> 00:43:53,221
The Vatican knew that there'd been
prior reports about Murphy,
588
00:43:53,493 --> 00:43:55,091
there was no conspiracy,
589
00:43:55,126 --> 00:43:57,748
but there was something
far worse than a conspiracy.
590
00:43:57,915 --> 00:44:02,302
The very policy of keeping this
absolutely secret,
591
00:44:02,588 --> 00:44:04,208
that was the policy.
592
00:44:04,338 --> 00:44:08,775
And the first regulations to keep
these issues absolutely secret
593
00:44:08,818 --> 00:44:12,404
were issued in 1866 by the Vatican.
594
00:44:13,319 --> 00:44:15,194
Back in the 1980s,
595
00:44:15,257 --> 00:44:19,451
Father Doyle wrote that these cases
were going to cost the Church
596
00:44:19,516 --> 00:44:22,085
eventually $1 billion.
597
00:44:22,610 --> 00:44:26,206
The last estimate is
it's over $2 billion.
598
00:44:26,766 --> 00:44:27,924
So he was right.
599
00:44:28,706 --> 00:44:30,516
'Facing the crisis,
600
00:44:30,579 --> 00:44:34,954
'Catholics confront the sex abuse
scandal on the very first day of holy ...'
601
00:44:35,124 --> 00:44:37,514
'NBC News In Depth tonight.
Crisis in the Church...'
602
00:44:37,574 --> 00:44:41,378
'New details tonight about how the
Boston Archdiocese handled the case
603
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:45,245
'of a priest charged now with
repeatedly raping a young boy.'
604
00:44:45,297 --> 00:44:46,715
'Tonight, another priest...'
605
00:44:46,769 --> 00:44:49,969
'John Geoghan, accused by
more than 130 of abuse...'
606
00:44:50,013 --> 00:44:53,146
'Newly released documents show
Boston Church officials knew...'
607
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,762
'Cardinal Law knew of Shanley's
alleged abusive behaviour,
608
00:44:56,847 --> 00:44:58,574
'but never informed legal
authorities...'
609
00:44:58,645 --> 00:45:01,302
'Last month's life sentence
given to Father John Hanlon
610
00:45:01,352 --> 00:45:02,375
'for raping a young boy
611
00:45:02,437 --> 00:45:04,430
'is the latest chapter
in a scandal that is...'
612
00:45:04,504 --> 00:45:07,629
'Now, after the Church sex scandal
first came to light in Boston,
613
00:45:07,676 --> 00:45:09,926
'thousands of victims across
the country have gone public...'
614
00:45:10,004 --> 00:45:12,777
'This morning, the Pope
has broken his silence
615
00:45:12,815 --> 00:45:16,486
'about the growing sexual abuse rocking
the Catholic Church in the United States.'
616
00:45:16,525 --> 00:45:18,979
'Even President Bush
weighed in yesterday
617
00:45:19,042 --> 00:45:23,823
saying he's confident 'the Church will
clean up its business and do the right thing.'
618
00:45:23,923 --> 00:45:29,946
DEMONSTRATORS: 'Law must go!
Law must go!'
619
00:45:30,128 --> 00:45:34,189
Identified as a key figure who
covered up sex abuse in Boston,
620
00:45:34,231 --> 00:45:38,129
Cardinal Law cost the Church tens of
millions of dollars in settlements.
621
00:45:38,940 --> 00:45:41,395
But instead of being punished
by the Vatican,
622
00:45:41,653 --> 00:45:44,669
Law was rewarded
with a seven-year term
623
00:45:44,751 --> 00:45:47,286
at this magnificent basilica
in Rome.
624
00:45:47,708 --> 00:45:50,763
He had the second most
prominent church in catholicism
625
00:45:50,833 --> 00:45:52,137
and a palace to live in.
626
00:45:52,181 --> 00:45:56,946
And he's got a stake a in luxurious state
of affairs for the rest of his life.
627
00:45:56,989 --> 00:46:00,427
It sends a pretty blatant message
that victims aren't that important,
628
00:46:00,524 --> 00:46:03,301
but you've persecuted
this poor cardinal.
629
00:46:03,401 --> 00:46:05,831
You know, he's suffered enough,
now we've got to give him
630
00:46:05,917 --> 00:46:08,120
a nice cushy job to protect him.
631
00:46:09,159 --> 00:46:12,026
One of the things that Vatican
officials had tried to do
632
00:46:12,075 --> 00:46:14,492
is portray this
as an American thing
633
00:46:14,547 --> 00:46:16,586
or, at best,
an Anglo-Saxon thing.
634
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,531
Oh, the sex abuse scandals,
635
00:46:18,566 --> 00:46:22,094
they happen only in the United
States, in Canada...
636
00:46:22,148 --> 00:46:24,937
And, suddenly, in the year 2010,
637
00:46:24,985 --> 00:46:29,180
this great scandal
explodes in Europe.
638
00:46:29,344 --> 00:46:31,008
It explodes in Ireland,
639
00:46:31,194 --> 00:46:32,180
in Germany,
640
00:46:32,314 --> 00:46:34,094
in Austria, in Switzerland,
641
00:46:34,203 --> 00:46:36,211
in France, in Belgium.
642
00:46:37,125 --> 00:46:41,550
Everybody points to this to be
from the date 2002,
643
00:46:41,604 --> 00:46:45,074
when the Boston Globe said,
"Hey, we have a problem here."
644
00:46:45,113 --> 00:46:48,831
And they subsequently
published 1,200 articles.
645
00:46:48,947 --> 00:46:51,986
This is an old, old problem
646
00:46:52,043 --> 00:46:55,447
and if you follow this problem
to its foundation,
647
00:46:55,540 --> 00:46:59,509
it will lead you to the highest
corridors of the Vatican.
648
00:47:02,740 --> 00:47:05,511
Benedicti Decimi Sexti.
649
00:47:05,762 --> 00:47:08,262
Cardinale Ratzinger.
650
00:47:08,289 --> 00:47:11,832
[CHEERING AND APPLAUSE]
651
00:47:16,707 --> 00:47:20,878
In 2005, Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger
was elected Pope,
652
00:47:21,714 --> 00:47:25,479
and chose the name Benedict XVI.
653
00:47:26,131 --> 00:47:29,718
He was known as a great
theologian and intellectual.
654
00:47:30,277 --> 00:47:32,200
What many did not realise
655
00:47:32,271 --> 00:47:36,294
was that for 25 years, he'd
led the Vatican Office familiar
656
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:40,325
with the most severe cases
of sex abuse by priests,
657
00:47:40,498 --> 00:47:43,325
the Congregation for the
Doctrine of the Faith.
658
00:47:44,331 --> 00:47:46,629
The CDF has a dark history.
659
00:47:46,749 --> 00:47:49,558
When it was founded
in the 16th century,
660
00:47:49,625 --> 00:47:52,332
it was known as the Inquisition.
661
00:47:53,241 --> 00:47:54,991
Ratzinger took that job over,
662
00:47:55,037 --> 00:47:56,683
he was Archbishop of
Munich and Freising,
663
00:47:56,745 --> 00:47:59,034
and he was promoted
by John Paul II
664
00:47:59,079 --> 00:48:02,102
to run the Congregation
for the Doctrine of the Faith.
665
00:48:03,423 --> 00:48:07,886
Think of the Pope in the middle and
a whole bunch of offices around him.
666
00:48:08,118 --> 00:48:12,108
What you had was multiple
offices of the Holy See,
667
00:48:12,182 --> 00:48:16,655
who ultimately don't talk to one another,
handling these different cases.
668
00:48:16,967 --> 00:48:20,846
And so, cases wouldn't
get bogged down.
669
00:48:22,681 --> 00:48:25,228
But then what happened in 2001,
670
00:48:25,514 --> 00:48:30,057
Ratzinger put out this teaching
approved by John Paul II that said,
671
00:48:30,148 --> 00:48:37,249
"Every sex abuse case that involves
a minor, they all come to my desk."
672
00:48:38,884 --> 00:48:40,803
From 2001 forward,
673
00:48:40,852 --> 00:48:45,492
every single priest sex abuse case
went to Ratzinger.
674
00:48:46,383 --> 00:48:50,500
Cardinal Ratzinger, now
His Holiness Benedict XVI,
675
00:48:50,561 --> 00:48:53,829
is the most knowledgeable
person in the world
676
00:48:53,892 --> 00:48:56,696
regarding priestly
sexual abuse of minors,
677
00:48:57,313 --> 00:48:59,548
'cos he has all the data.
678
00:49:02,478 --> 00:49:05,194
Inside the cloistered
walls of the Vatican
679
00:49:05,259 --> 00:49:09,389
lie voluminous records of worldwide
sexual abuse in the priesthood,
680
00:49:10,017 --> 00:49:12,271
centralized in the secret archives
681
00:49:12,317 --> 00:49:15,325
of the Congregation for
the Doctrine of the Faith.
682
00:49:15,686 --> 00:49:20,638
It is the century-old history
of the Catholic Church.
683
00:49:20,856 --> 00:49:24,270
We have documents from councils
684
00:49:24,353 --> 00:49:28,679
in Spain in the 4th century after Christ,
685
00:49:28,792 --> 00:49:35,749
in which there is written something
about sex abuse with children.
686
00:49:36,079 --> 00:49:42,103
So it is 1,700 years that the
church is dealing about this.
687
00:49:45,446 --> 00:49:48,387
This is the guilt of the Vatican.
688
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,222
They could already understand
689
00:49:51,309 --> 00:49:54,088
how deep this scandal was
690
00:49:54,119 --> 00:49:58,791
and that this scandal was not
just an American scandal,
691
00:49:58,955 --> 00:50:02,767
and that a paedophile is not a sinner,
692
00:50:02,860 --> 00:50:04,322
but he's a criminal.
693
00:50:04,416 --> 00:50:07,388
He is a criminal who
plans his activity,
694
00:50:07,938 --> 00:50:13,093
who is very attentive
to organize situations
695
00:50:13,132 --> 00:50:15,710
in which he can abuse children.
696
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,706
♪ Well, it's one for the money ♪
♪ And it's two for the show ♪
697
00:50:18,782 --> 00:50:21,009
♪ Three to get ready ♪
♪ Now, go, cat, go ♪
698
00:50:21,051 --> 00:50:24,199
♪ But don't you ♪
♪ Stand on my blue suede shoes ♪
699
00:50:24,259 --> 00:50:25,766
♪ Uh-huh ♪
700
00:50:25,863 --> 00:50:30,300
♪ You can do anything ♪
♪ But lay off of my blue suede shoes. ♪
701
00:50:30,412 --> 00:50:33,303
For most people, Tony Walsh
was the priest from Ballyfermot
702
00:50:33,402 --> 00:50:35,568
who did an Elvis impersonation,
703
00:50:35,639 --> 00:50:37,310
He was part of the
Singing Priests group.
704
00:50:37,389 --> 00:50:40,263
And he was very good, he was a
really, really popular priest.
705
00:50:40,316 --> 00:50:42,082
What most people didn't know
706
00:50:42,150 --> 00:50:46,699
was that Tony Walsh was
Ireland's most notorious paedophile.
707
00:50:49,048 --> 00:50:53,093
In 2010, a government investigation
revealed that Walsh,
708
00:50:53,179 --> 00:50:57,069
by his own count, had committed
over 200 acts of abuse.
709
00:50:57,132 --> 00:50:59,960
That investigation, known as the
Murphy Report,
710
00:51:00,012 --> 00:51:03,066
also uncovered the fact
that the archdiocese of Dublin
711
00:51:03,184 --> 00:51:05,389
had known about
Walsh's activity
712
00:51:05,454 --> 00:51:10,602
for nearly 20 years, yet did
nothing to inform parents or police.
713
00:51:10,729 --> 00:51:13,791
His first appointment in 1979
was to Valey Farmers.
714
00:51:13,955 --> 00:51:15,220
the suburb of Dublin.
715
00:51:15,252 --> 00:51:17,158
He's put in the charge
of the older boys,
716
00:51:17,221 --> 00:51:21,103
even though, in 1979 already there was
a complaint made against him
717
00:51:21,229 --> 00:51:23,650
a couple of days
after his ordination.
718
00:51:26,413 --> 00:51:29,643
In Ireland, Catholicism is
kind of like a blood type.
719
00:51:29,990 --> 00:51:32,263
It's the status quo,
it's what's always been done,
720
00:51:32,313 --> 00:51:35,305
you don't question it,
you blindly go along with it.
721
00:51:36,013 --> 00:51:39,990
You know, the Catholic Church was
part of who we are and what we are.
722
00:51:41,822 --> 00:51:44,727
The priest, he is the
carrier of the sacrament.
723
00:51:44,835 --> 00:51:48,109
You know, it's almost like he's
the...he's got the Holy Grail.
724
00:51:48,382 --> 00:51:50,625
I remember interviewing
a woman once and she said,
725
00:51:50,685 --> 00:51:52,990
"We used to get down on
our knees when he passed by"
726
00:51:53,093 --> 00:51:55,349
"and bless ourselves. He carried the
host, you know.
727
00:51:55,443 --> 00:52:00,318
That's how people saw them," and that's
because they were almost Godlike.
728
00:52:02,571 --> 00:52:05,835
The government investigation
into the Singing Priest
729
00:52:05,907 --> 00:52:09,055
uncovered church documents that
revealed a new dimension
730
00:52:09,124 --> 00:52:11,063
to the worldwide sex abuse scandal.
731
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:16,878
It was the role played by bishops and the
Vatican in allowing the abuse to continue.
732
00:52:18,876 --> 00:52:23,886
Year after year, parents reported
Walsh's abuse to the Dublin archdiocese,
733
00:52:24,140 --> 00:52:26,558
but the church did not
punish the priest,
734
00:52:26,617 --> 00:52:30,009
reach out to the victims
or alert local parents.
735
00:52:31,009 --> 00:52:33,999
As revelations continued
in the Walsh case,
736
00:52:34,061 --> 00:52:36,771
parents and survivors scanned
the Murphy Report
737
00:52:36,859 --> 00:52:40,351
to learn the extent of the crimes
and the cover-up.
738
00:52:40,563 --> 00:52:43,630
Documents showed that the
church kept allowing Walsh
739
00:52:43,695 --> 00:52:47,296
to care for children,
even after a secret stint
740
00:52:47,359 --> 00:52:50,741
in a clinic run by the
Servants of the Paraclete.
741
00:52:51,532 --> 00:52:53,303
VOICE DISTORTED:
The clinic allowed Father Walsh
742
00:52:53,374 --> 00:52:54,639
to roam the streets
743
00:52:54,732 --> 00:52:57,670
of the nearby large city,
after admitting
744
00:52:57,706 --> 00:53:01,073
to abusing 100 kids,
unsupervised.
745
00:53:01,144 --> 00:53:04,674
He was allowed to dress
in clerical attire and said Masses
746
00:53:04,792 --> 00:53:06,386
in the local churches.
747
00:53:06,463 --> 00:53:11,541
Father Walsh visited a house and paid
a lot of attention to the 11-year-old son.
748
00:53:11,594 --> 00:53:16,164
He agreed to babysit for the children and God
knows what happened to the kids that week.
749
00:53:16,248 --> 00:53:17,039
Yeah.
750
00:53:17,103 --> 00:53:21,072
I mean, that's a clinic allowing him
to do something like that.
751
00:53:21,128 --> 00:53:24,724
That is ridiculous. And they're
not being held accountable.
752
00:53:24,784 --> 00:53:25,760
It's...
753
00:53:25,794 --> 00:53:29,120
Father Walsh was immediately
removed from the clinic.
754
00:53:29,238 --> 00:53:32,831
I think it's about time when a paedophile
gets thrown out of a clinic.
755
00:53:33,348 --> 00:53:36,586
Through the mercy of God,
rest in peace. Amen.
756
00:53:36,605 --> 00:53:38,784
And we ask these
and all our prayers,
757
00:53:38,864 --> 00:53:41,862
through Jesus Christ,
Our Lord, Amen.
758
00:53:42,329 --> 00:53:44,761
Even after a decade of abuse,
759
00:53:44,799 --> 00:53:49,292
the faithful heard nothing about
Walsh from the Archbishop of Dublin.
760
00:53:49,875 --> 00:53:51,500
Why didn't you go yourself, Bishop?
761
00:53:51,602 --> 00:53:54,459
- Go where?
- Go to the victims yourself.
762
00:53:54,550 --> 00:53:57,117
Erm... And encourage them
to go to the police.
763
00:53:57,985 --> 00:54:01,250
I suppose perhaps I should've,
perhaps I should have done
764
00:54:01,291 --> 00:54:06,492
but, erm, I've so much to do.
765
00:54:08,306 --> 00:54:12,594
In secret, Archbishop Connell
did launch an investigation,
766
00:54:12,829 --> 00:54:16,961
but according to the laws of Roman
Catholicism, known as Canon law,
767
00:54:17,157 --> 00:54:22,241
Connell followed orders from the Vatican
to keep any details of Walsh's crimes
768
00:54:22,311 --> 00:54:24,826
hidden behind the walls
of the church.
769
00:54:25,086 --> 00:54:27,438
Everybody involved in that process,
770
00:54:27,491 --> 00:54:30,649
the accuser, the accused
and the witnesses,
771
00:54:30,688 --> 00:54:34,461
are all obliged to take
an oath of absolute secrecy,
772
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,352
that they will never reveal
for the rest of their life
773
00:54:37,409 --> 00:54:41,852
any of the information that they
learned in the process.
774
00:54:45,137 --> 00:54:48,379
Victims were sworn
to absolute secrecy.
775
00:54:48,441 --> 00:54:50,792
And the sanction for breaking that secrecy
776
00:54:50,839 --> 00:54:55,401
was automatic excommunication,
the ultimate sanction the Church can enforce.
777
00:54:57,621 --> 00:54:59,308
When you read the Murphy Report
778
00:54:59,410 --> 00:55:03,589
you begin to see the same patterns
emerging all over the place.
779
00:55:03,682 --> 00:55:06,267
Patterns in Boston
and in Milwaukee
780
00:55:06,426 --> 00:55:08,402
that were similar to Dublin.
781
00:55:08,488 --> 00:55:10,878
Priests were moved
from "A" to "B" to "C" to "D"...
782
00:55:10,963 --> 00:55:14,369
Nobody told anybody, the civil
authorities were not informed.
783
00:55:15,087 --> 00:55:18,783
The Murphy Commission got access
to documents, they got cooperation
784
00:55:18,838 --> 00:55:20,509
from Archbishop Devlin Martin,
785
00:55:20,605 --> 00:55:24,596
and were able to reveal,
how the Vatican was part
786
00:55:24,651 --> 00:55:26,502
of what went on in Dublin
787
00:55:26,752 --> 00:55:30,119
In fact, how the Vatican
oversaw it.
788
00:55:30,813 --> 00:55:33,033
Following the dictates
of the Vatican,
789
00:55:33,094 --> 00:55:36,627
13 years after the first
sign of Walsh's abuse,
790
00:55:36,705 --> 00:55:40,955
Archbishop Connell finally
convened a secret church trial.
791
00:55:41,204 --> 00:55:45,385
They appoint three judges, Canon
lawyers, to listen to evidence,
792
00:55:45,759 --> 00:55:48,713
which is overwhelmingly
evidence against this guy,
793
00:55:48,769 --> 00:55:52,683
and they recommend in 1992 that he
should be dismissed from the priesthood.
794
00:55:53,389 --> 00:55:55,590
And he's always pleaded not guilty.
795
00:55:55,675 --> 00:55:57,618
Even though he's admitted
to 100 cases of abuse,
796
00:55:57,697 --> 00:55:59,501
he's pleaded not guilty.
797
00:55:59,547 --> 00:56:01,703
He appeals that to Rome.
798
00:56:02,023 --> 00:56:03,687
For eight months,
the Vatican dithers
799
00:56:03,752 --> 00:56:05,080
and decides
what to do with him,
800
00:56:05,141 --> 00:56:07,853
and in that eight months
he abuses another child.
801
00:56:08,166 --> 00:56:11,142
Abuses a child at his
grandfather's funeral.
802
00:56:11,372 --> 00:56:14,254
The Vatican is
fundamentally responsible
803
00:56:14,387 --> 00:56:16,301
for this guy being abused.
804
00:56:17,337 --> 00:56:19,536
The Vatican come
back and decide,
805
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:21,560
"Well, we won't dismiss him
from the priesthood,
806
00:56:21,607 --> 00:56:23,904
"Put him in a monastery
for 10 years."
807
00:56:24,149 --> 00:56:25,789
The bishop is tearing his hair out.
808
00:56:25,872 --> 00:56:27,325
"What do you mean, put him
in a monastery for 10 years?"
809
00:56:27,365 --> 00:56:29,066
"No monastery will take him!"
810
00:56:29,121 --> 00:56:32,195
And so, Des Connell pleads with
the Vatican,
811
00:56:32,258 --> 00:56:34,654
and he personally went
to see Cardinal Ratzinger
812
00:56:34,732 --> 00:56:37,115
to write his dismissal order.
813
00:56:38,415 --> 00:56:40,621
The Vatican did nothing.
814
00:56:40,817 --> 00:56:44,222
But angry parents forced
the police to act.
815
00:56:44,649 --> 00:56:48,691
Walsh was convicted of
sexual assault in 1995.
816
00:56:49,199 --> 00:56:53,793
Only then, after tolerating Walsh's
abuse of hundreds of children,
817
00:56:54,243 --> 00:56:56,875
did the Vatican finally
dismiss Father Walsh
818
00:56:57,345 --> 00:56:59,352
from the priestly state.
819
00:57:00,558 --> 00:57:03,959
Two priests who were judges
on the Tony Walsh case
820
00:57:04,022 --> 00:57:06,248
swore an oath of secrecy.
821
00:57:06,373 --> 00:57:09,608
Where are they now?
They're two bishops.
822
00:57:24,065 --> 00:57:27,953
For priests, secrecy
can have its rewards.
823
00:57:28,378 --> 00:57:33,581
But for the faithful in Ireland, the
cover-up may be an unforgivable sin.
824
00:57:35,669 --> 00:57:39,276
We were 95% practicing Catholics.
825
00:57:39,393 --> 00:57:41,682
I spoke to a priest
only yesterday, he says,
826
00:57:41,744 --> 00:57:44,237
"4% come to church in Dublin."
827
00:57:45,157 --> 00:57:47,799
But that's not to say that
they've lost their faith.
828
00:57:48,076 --> 00:57:50,916
They certainly lost faith
in the hierarchy.
829
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:59,725
In 2010, Pope Benedict sought to
bring the flock back to the church
830
00:57:59,786 --> 00:58:03,829
by writing an unprecedented
letter to the Irish faithful.
831
00:58:05,571 --> 00:58:07,245
To us bishops he says,
832
00:58:07,322 --> 00:58:11,565
"We must admit that grave
errors of judgment were made,
833
00:58:11,713 --> 00:58:15,173
"and failures of leadership
occurred
834
00:58:15,227 --> 00:58:20,533
"which have seriously undermined
our credibility and effectiveness."
835
00:58:20,620 --> 00:58:22,940
What he does is, he blames the Irish
bishops
836
00:58:23,011 --> 00:58:24,698
for their misplaced concern
837
00:58:24,744 --> 00:58:27,119
for the reputation of the church
in the avoidance of scandal,
838
00:58:27,178 --> 00:58:28,947
for not following Canon law.
839
00:58:29,079 --> 00:58:32,595
He never once acknowledged the role
of the Vatican in all of this.
840
00:58:32,691 --> 00:58:35,222
I spoke to one bishop
who was so angry.
841
00:58:35,388 --> 00:58:38,224
He said, "How dare he blame us?
842
00:58:38,312 --> 00:58:40,999
"Show me where we
didn't follow Canon law!
843
00:58:41,389 --> 00:58:43,429
"Canon law was the problem!"
844
00:58:43,712 --> 00:58:49,437
That prompted a few people to come
out of the woodwork, if you like.
845
00:58:50,893 --> 00:58:55,408
An anonymous source leaked
a mysterious document.
846
00:58:55,665 --> 00:58:57,557
It was a smoking gun.
847
00:58:57,621 --> 00:59:00,448
A 1997 letter from the Vatican
848
00:59:00,582 --> 00:59:03,127
that overruled attempts
by Irish bishops
849
00:59:03,225 --> 00:59:06,268
to report sex abuse to the police.
850
00:59:08,299 --> 00:59:11,151
Why didn't any of them just stand up
publicly and come out and say,
851
00:59:11,175 --> 00:59:14,182
"The Vatican has instructed us
not to report crimes to the police"?
852
00:59:14,304 --> 00:59:18,346
Because they are totally
loyal to the Vatican.
853
00:59:18,549 --> 00:59:22,909
In 2011, the release of yet another
government investigation
854
00:59:23,018 --> 00:59:25,471
was the final blow
which shattered relations
855
00:59:25,534 --> 00:59:27,916
between the Vatican and Ireland.
856
00:59:28,007 --> 00:59:32,249
The Cloyne report excavates
the dysfunction,
857
00:59:32,388 --> 00:59:35,114
the disconnection, the elitism
858
00:59:35,241 --> 00:59:38,574
that dominates the culture
of the Vatican today.
859
00:59:38,606 --> 00:59:41,036
The rape and
the torture of children
860
00:59:41,093 --> 00:59:45,460
were downplayed or managed
to uphold instead
861
00:59:45,499 --> 00:59:47,632
the primacy of the institution
862
00:59:47,751 --> 00:59:51,676
its power, its standing
and its reputation.
863
00:59:52,815 --> 00:59:55,042
This calculated,
withering position
864
00:59:55,176 --> 00:59:58,101
being the polar opposite
of the radicalism,
865
00:59:58,176 --> 01:00:04,057
the humility and the compassion upon
which the Roman Church was founded.
866
01:00:13,626 --> 01:00:17,432
[BELLS CHIME]
867
01:00:25,962 --> 01:00:28,056
Even as Irish churches lay empty,
868
01:00:28,369 --> 01:00:32,384
Rome received tens of thousands
of pilgrims from all over the world
869
01:00:32,485 --> 01:00:36,267
who had come to see the beatification
of Pope John Paul II.
870
01:00:36,633 --> 01:00:41,313
[PRAYER IN LATIN]
871
01:00:43,821 --> 01:00:46,622
The penultimate step
in the path to sainthood
872
01:00:46,661 --> 01:00:51,231
beatification is the celebration
of the blessed souls arrival in heaven
873
01:00:51,364 --> 01:00:55,037
proven by a miracle performed
in the John Paul's name.
874
01:00:56,946 --> 01:01:00,983
To the faithful, John Paul was one of
the world's most popular popes
875
01:01:01,224 --> 01:01:04,536
famous for helping to end
the Communist rule in his native Poland
876
01:01:04,653 --> 01:01:06,043
and throughout Europe.
877
01:01:06,169 --> 01:01:08,606
He denounced
the excesses of Capitalism
878
01:01:08,712 --> 01:01:11,325
and apologized for the
Church's past sins
879
01:01:11,442 --> 01:01:13,668
in dealing
with other Religions.
880
01:01:13,855 --> 01:01:19,559
[PRAYER IN LATIN]
881
01:01:29,447 --> 01:01:32,315
As the prayers continued
late into the night,
882
01:01:32,601 --> 01:01:35,197
victims of sex abuse
couldn't help wondering
883
01:01:35,549 --> 01:01:37,760
why Benedict was
in such a rush
884
01:01:37,841 --> 01:01:41,377
to move John Paul's soul
on the path to sainthood.
885
01:01:55,198 --> 01:01:57,581
Marcial Maciel Degollado
886
01:01:57,605 --> 01:02:02,230
was one of the world's most charismatic
fundraisers for the Catholic Church.
887
01:02:02,381 --> 01:02:05,948
In 1941, he founded
the Legion Of Christ,
888
01:02:06,021 --> 01:02:07,544
a group of young zealots
889
01:02:07,630 --> 01:02:09,809
who raised phenomenal
amounts of money
890
01:02:09,864 --> 01:02:13,575
and opened universities and
seminaries all over the world.
891
01:02:13,684 --> 01:02:18,418
Maciel controlled an annual
operating budget of $650 million,
892
01:02:18,489 --> 01:02:22,738
and counted amongst his friends the
world's richest man, Carlos Slim,
893
01:02:22,884 --> 01:02:26,871
Jeb Bush, Sandy Weill,
former chairman of Citigroup,
894
01:02:26,999 --> 01:02:31,305
Rick Santorum, and former
CIA director William Casey.
895
01:02:31,744 --> 01:02:36,501
Maciel was also a particular
favourite of Pope John Paul II
896
01:02:36,616 --> 01:02:40,181
who exalted him as a holy man
and visionary.
897
01:02:40,310 --> 01:02:44,031
Maciel was as connected as you
could get in Rome
898
01:02:44,099 --> 01:02:46,525
and he got that way by giving
money to people.
899
01:02:46,745 --> 01:02:50,291
$90,000 to Cardinal Martinez Somalo
900
01:02:50,354 --> 01:02:53,551
who, at the time, was
the Head of the Congregation
901
01:02:53,620 --> 01:02:57,057
that should have
investigated Maciel
902
01:02:57,515 --> 01:03:00,406
He was held in great favour
by John Paul II.
903
01:03:00,656 --> 01:03:01,624
For a number of reasons.
904
01:03:01,687 --> 01:03:03,851
The money was certainly one of them.
And second, ...
905
01:03:03,901 --> 01:03:09,592
he was bowing and scraping and worshiping
the Pope and the Pope apparently liked it.
906
01:03:17,195 --> 01:03:19,187
But, as the song goes,
907
01:03:19,461 --> 01:03:21,359
though Maciel
looked like an angel
908
01:03:21,483 --> 01:03:25,835
and talked like an angel,
he was a devil in disguise.
909
01:03:32,773 --> 01:03:36,405
Behind closed doors,
Maciel led a secret life.
910
01:03:36,524 --> 01:03:39,687
He was a morphine addict
and a ruthless sex criminal
911
01:03:39,818 --> 01:03:42,138
who abused dozens
of his legionaries.
912
01:03:42,223 --> 01:03:45,035
He would visit the
monasteries every few days
913
01:03:45,085 --> 01:03:46,953
and insist on being masturbated
914
01:03:46,993 --> 01:03:49,560
or on having sex
with one of the boys.
915
01:03:49,692 --> 01:03:52,551
Often posing
as an agent of the CIA,
916
01:03:52,730 --> 01:03:56,475
he had at least two secret
mistresses and four children.
917
01:03:56,810 --> 01:03:58,987
He abused some of them too.
918
01:03:59,092 --> 01:04:02,917
Yet even when stories in the press
started to emerge about Maciel,
919
01:04:03,084 --> 01:04:05,255
John Paul did not
investigate him,
920
01:04:05,623 --> 01:04:07,177
he celebrated him.
921
01:04:07,620 --> 01:04:12,488
In 1997, when Renner and I did
the investigative piece
922
01:04:12,504 --> 01:04:13,573
for the Hartford Courant,
923
01:04:13,689 --> 01:04:18,373
the response we got from
the Vatican... was nothing.
924
01:04:18,501 --> 01:04:22,103
To say that John Paul
was not given the information
925
01:04:22,178 --> 01:04:23,735
is preposterous. He is the Pope.
926
01:04:23,787 --> 01:04:26,083
People around him have
this kind of information.
927
01:04:26,500 --> 01:04:31,474
One key cardinal, Angelo Sodano,
stayed close to Maciel
928
01:04:31,625 --> 01:04:35,492
even as Maciel funneled millions
of dollars into the Vatican.
929
01:04:36,055 --> 01:04:40,609
Sodano would be Maciel's protector
right to the end.
930
01:04:40,703 --> 01:04:44,953
The Maciel case is
really a school case
931
01:04:45,183 --> 01:04:50,511
in order to understand how the
machine works within the Vatican.
932
01:04:50,809 --> 01:04:55,159
Marco Politi is one of Italy's most
knowledgeable Vatican-watchers.
933
01:04:55,761 --> 01:05:00,418
He has also spent a considerable
amount of time with Joseph Ratzinger.
934
01:05:00,948 --> 01:05:06,128
From the outside, Ratzinger is often
perceived as a stiff personality,
935
01:05:06,279 --> 01:05:11,425
cold, merciless with
the dissenters in the Church.
936
01:05:11,591 --> 01:05:14,661
If you see him from the inside,
in the inner circle,
937
01:05:14,824 --> 01:05:18,926
it's a very warm personality,
sensitive.
938
01:05:19,092 --> 01:05:21,717
So he has always been very shocked
939
01:05:21,848 --> 01:05:26,420
when he has heard about
sex abuse scandals.
940
01:05:26,593 --> 01:05:29,490
For him it is a horrible sin.
941
01:05:48,759 --> 01:05:51,636
His first reaction is the horror
942
01:05:51,684 --> 01:05:53,800
that a priest could do
something like this.
943
01:05:53,869 --> 01:05:54,925
That's telling.
944
01:05:55,006 --> 01:05:58,483
It wasn't, "These poor victims!"
That was not his first reaction.
945
01:05:58,537 --> 01:05:59,814
His first reaction was,
946
01:05:59,915 --> 01:06:03,919
"It's despoiled the priesthood!
The sacred institution!"
947
01:06:04,052 --> 01:06:06,090
Yet, when he was a cardinal,
948
01:06:06,161 --> 01:06:10,669
it had been his job to examine every
one of these sex abuse cases.
949
01:06:10,847 --> 01:06:14,128
Ratzinger met with
John Paul every Friday
950
01:06:14,525 --> 01:06:19,361
Did he stay silent or did he speak
with John Paul about Maciel.
951
01:06:19,983 --> 01:06:24,120
Ratzinger would have liked to
open an investigation
952
01:06:24,666 --> 01:06:30,534
but he was stopped by the Secretary
Of State, Cardinal Sodano.
953
01:06:30,739 --> 01:06:35,504
Sodano's ability to protect Maciel
put Ratzinger in a difficult position
954
01:06:35,559 --> 01:06:39,051
as more and more
victims of Maciel came forward.
955
01:06:39,244 --> 01:06:42,884
Vatican Watch is new, it was
Ratzinger's job to investigate.
956
01:06:43,077 --> 01:06:46,592
I want to ask you a question
about Father Maciel
957
01:06:46,961 --> 01:06:48,348
- No, I...
- Excuse me...
958
01:06:48,512 --> 01:06:50,308
But I'm not so informed
959
01:06:50,395 --> 01:06:52,300
to speak about it this moment
960
01:06:52,364 --> 01:06:56,363
It is even, I think, inconvenient
in this moment to come to me
961
01:06:56,423 --> 01:06:59,994
There's a question whether
you cover up...
962
01:07:00,176 --> 01:07:03,222
Come to me when just
a moment is given, but not not yet.
963
01:07:03,293 --> 01:07:08,035
- Well, we found out...
- This is unfair... - Signori...!
964
01:07:08,503 --> 01:07:12,944
What you find in Ratzinger at that
point is a man who is troubled
965
01:07:13,061 --> 01:07:16,389
by justice that had
not gone forward
966
01:07:16,479 --> 01:07:21,014
and yet at the same time was trying
to balance his loyalty
967
01:07:21,064 --> 01:07:23,900
to the Pope, who clearly did
not want Maciel prosecuted.
968
01:07:24,181 --> 01:07:29,111
[MASS IN ITALIAN]
969
01:07:32,010 --> 01:07:40,010
Cardinal Ratzinger waits till the
moment when John Paul II is dying.
970
01:07:40,385 --> 01:07:44,737
The same day that John Paul II dies,
971
01:07:44,898 --> 01:07:49,471
the Prosecutor General
of the Congregation Of Faith
972
01:07:49,546 --> 01:07:55,717
flies to New York and he stays in New York
and in Mexico City for eight days,
973
01:07:55,906 --> 01:08:03,049
and he gets all the material to show
that Maciel Marcial was a sex criminal.
974
01:08:03,211 --> 01:08:07,322
So it is interesting,
for at least 15 years
975
01:08:07,385 --> 01:08:11,885
the Vatican didn't move
a finger to investigate,
976
01:08:11,947 --> 01:08:17,299
and only in the moment
when all the Vatican is stopped,
977
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:20,087
because everybody is thinking
the Pope is dead,
978
01:08:20,181 --> 01:08:23,876
Cardinal Ratzinger succeeds
to get the evidence.
979
01:08:24,337 --> 01:08:29,428
Cardinal Ratzinger's investigation
confirmed his suspicion of Maciel's crimes
980
01:08:29,521 --> 01:08:31,811
but still he did not act.
981
01:08:31,946 --> 01:08:36,402
When Benedict became Pope in 2005,
982
01:08:36,496 --> 01:08:39,136
did Benedict order his trial?
983
01:08:39,184 --> 01:08:42,746
Did Benedict punish him
in any way? No.
984
01:08:43,383 --> 01:08:47,840
Following a Vatican to live
a life of prayer and penitence
985
01:08:47,972 --> 01:08:51,824
Maciel settled in Jacksonville, Florida.
986
01:08:52,711 --> 01:08:55,792
The Vatican communiqué
did not mention his victims,
987
01:08:55,847 --> 01:08:57,776
or the nature of his crimes.
988
01:08:58,812 --> 01:09:02,886
An earlier statement had put
an end to Maciel church trial.
989
01:09:02,988 --> 01:09:05,839
And that came not
from Ratzinger's office,
990
01:09:05,941 --> 01:09:09,987
but rather from the office
of Cardinal Sodano.
991
01:09:10,469 --> 01:09:15,731
Not even a Pope is all-powerful
because he lives in a structure -
992
01:09:15,778 --> 01:09:20,817
the Roman Curia which is
almost 2,000 years old -
993
01:09:20,897 --> 01:09:26,793
and the structure
always wants to defend itself.
994
01:09:27,307 --> 01:09:32,862
He searched the truth about Maciel
but he didn't get the courage
995
01:09:32,918 --> 01:09:38,698
to condemn him immediately,
publicly and to defrock him.
996
01:09:49,868 --> 01:09:54,947
In 1997, facing a disease that
would ultimately take his life,
997
01:09:55,127 --> 01:10:00,103
Bob Bolger made this video to
memorialize Father Murphy's crimes.
998
01:10:24,141 --> 01:10:27,713
He set out on a road trip with
his friends from St John's,
999
01:10:27,784 --> 01:10:32,655
Arthur and Gary, to see if they could
finally hold Murphy to account.
1000
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:37,694
Murphy was living at the cabin
in Boulder Junction
1001
01:10:37,820 --> 01:10:42,436
with a deaf housekeeper who'd
studied and worked at St John's.
1002
01:10:48,570 --> 01:10:51,860
Bob gave me the camera
and I videotaped it.
1003
01:10:54,178 --> 01:10:57,193
Bob's ringing the door bell, and
then he comes away from the door
1004
01:10:57,256 --> 01:11:00,834
walks around to the side of the house,
to the right, by the lake
1005
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:10,358
And then Murphy came out.
And they met.
1006
01:11:11,891 --> 01:11:14,802
And Bob got in his face
and really let him have it.
1007
01:11:14,992 --> 01:11:17,770
He told him, "You need to walk
yourself right now
1008
01:11:17,816 --> 01:11:18,958
"to the police station."
1009
01:11:19,028 --> 01:11:20,864
"Walk yourself to jail."
1010
01:11:48,283 --> 01:11:54,714
Don't bother me.
Don't bother me. Go on.
1011
01:12:02,597 --> 01:12:06,873
Then Grace got involved and was
saying, "Forget it, forgive him!"
1012
01:12:26,893 --> 01:12:30,189
And Bolger is like, "You don't
understand, Grace, stay out of it."
1013
01:12:30,293 --> 01:12:33,290
After that,
we got in the car and we left.
1014
01:12:46,869 --> 01:12:49,435
When I told my wife what
I had experienced with Murphy,
1015
01:12:49,490 --> 01:12:51,029
her heart broke for me.
1016
01:12:54,151 --> 01:12:56,412
When I finally told her I thought,
1017
01:12:56,565 --> 01:12:59,604
"Shit, I should never have
told my wife!"
1018
01:13:01,701 --> 01:13:03,410
I thought I had made a mistake.
1019
01:13:03,450 --> 01:13:06,004
I shouldn't have said anything,
I should've kept it to myself.
1020
01:13:06,103 --> 01:13:07,520
But it was too late.
1021
01:13:09,271 --> 01:13:11,161
We grappled with it
1022
01:13:11,372 --> 01:13:14,028
and my wife ultimately
took me to a psychologist.
1023
01:13:16,272 --> 01:13:20,991
So when I finally blew,
just let it all out,
1024
01:13:21,595 --> 01:13:24,622
I decided to write what turned out
to be a seven-page letter to Murphy.
1025
01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:28,197
I had to unleash every angry emotion
that I had ever felt
1026
01:13:28,254 --> 01:13:32,681
and I just regurgitated it onto
paper to Murphy.
1027
01:13:33,644 --> 01:13:35,549
I would call
Murphy a wolf,
1028
01:13:35,689 --> 01:13:38,861
because of the way he lusting
after the prey that he's stalked.
1029
01:13:39,292 --> 01:13:41,776
It was like we were all little
sheep lying in our beds
1030
01:13:41,808 --> 01:13:43,985
We were good
innocent Christians.
1031
01:13:44,042 --> 01:13:47,487
The wolf would come in,
pick his prey, and molest them.
1032
01:14:43,541 --> 01:14:46,142
I sent that letter off to him
and I got no reply,
1033
01:14:46,290 --> 01:14:48,650
so I wrote
a second letter to Murphy.
1034
01:14:48,736 --> 01:14:50,189
Still no reply.
1035
01:14:56,233 --> 01:14:58,013
Weakland was always
1036
01:14:58,076 --> 01:15:01,271
considered to be someone
who stood up for the Vatican.
1037
01:15:01,349 --> 01:15:04,662
He really was the bête noire
of the conservative church,
1038
01:15:04,764 --> 01:15:08,451
because he was the leading
spokesman for an intelligence,
1039
01:15:08,530 --> 01:15:10,707
progressive wing
in the church.
1040
01:15:11,047 --> 01:15:15,156
Weakland inherited Murphy in 1976
1041
01:15:15,271 --> 01:15:19,515
and all through the '70s and through
the '80s and up until that letter
1042
01:15:19,637 --> 01:15:22,388
Archbishop Weakland does
absolutely nothing with him.
1043
01:15:22,752 --> 01:15:23,963
Not a thing.
1044
01:15:24,166 --> 01:15:26,872
He keeps gathering
information on Murphy
1045
01:15:26,942 --> 01:15:30,575
because victims keep coming
to the archdioceses about him.
1046
01:15:30,607 --> 01:15:32,357
"What's happening with him?
What are you doing with him?"
1047
01:15:33,045 --> 01:15:36,429
He does psychological and
criminological assessments of Murphy
1048
01:15:36,531 --> 01:15:40,593
where they determine he has
assaulted probably 200 children.
1049
01:15:41,614 --> 01:15:44,918
The therapist's handwritten
notes on her interviews with Murphy
1050
01:15:44,995 --> 01:15:47,767
not only determined that he was
untreatable,
1051
01:15:47,830 --> 01:15:52,251
they also revealed his complex
justifications for his crimes.
1052
01:16:39,899 --> 01:16:44,899
Father Thomas Brundage
called priest paedophilia,
1053
01:16:44,969 --> 01:16:49,437
quote, "a form of homicide", unquote.
1054
01:16:49,497 --> 01:16:52,320
in that it takes away
children's innocence.
1055
01:16:52,748 --> 01:16:56,060
Would you agree or disagree
with that observation?
1056
01:16:56,607 --> 01:17:00,497
If you had asked me that in 1979,
I would not have agreed,
1057
01:17:00,544 --> 01:17:04,856
but if you ask me that
now in the year 2008,
1058
01:17:05,052 --> 01:17:08,786
I would say in almost every case, yes.
1059
01:17:09,984 --> 01:17:12,609
I wrote a letter to
Archbishop Weakland
1060
01:17:12,672 --> 01:17:16,148
and Archbishop Weakland
called me in to have a meeting.
1061
01:17:18,140 --> 01:17:20,046
What do you do about Father Murphy?
1062
01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:23,565
It's a question that kept repeating
itself over and over again.
1063
01:17:23,710 --> 01:17:26,523
The statutes of limitation
had expired
1064
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:32,152
so criminal charges in the courts
were out of the question.
1065
01:17:32,691 --> 01:17:35,862
Statute of Limitations
in the Church courts,
1066
01:17:35,930 --> 01:17:41,430
according to Church law, Canon law,
had expired long before the others.
1067
01:17:41,885 --> 01:17:45,264
Then it became evident
that it might be possible
1068
01:17:45,362 --> 01:17:48,142
to still submit the Murphy case
1069
01:17:48,213 --> 01:17:51,963
on the basis of the way
in which he used the confessional.
1070
01:17:52,053 --> 01:17:55,935
That was one where the Statute
of Limitation never expires.
1071
01:17:57,209 --> 01:18:00,685
I submitted that to
Cardinal Ratzinger's office.
1072
01:18:01,463 --> 01:18:03,322
Finally, I think after a year,
1073
01:18:03,408 --> 01:18:07,455
we got an answer back saying,
"Yes, we can open the case."
1074
01:18:07,689 --> 01:18:12,736
A Catholic going to confession is at his
or her absolutely the most vulnerable.
1075
01:18:12,830 --> 01:18:18,931
The priest uses his power over
these vulnerable helpless children
1076
01:18:19,369 --> 01:18:23,110
to solicit some form of sexual
gratification from him.
1077
01:18:23,892 --> 01:18:26,384
I don't think there's a
vocabulary that we have
1078
01:18:26,564 --> 01:18:31,220
that can adequately describe how
horrendous and duplicitous this is.
1079
01:19:01,474 --> 01:19:03,731
I did receive a receipt,
1080
01:19:04,052 --> 01:19:06,919
proving that the Vatican
had received the letters.
1081
01:19:07,791 --> 01:19:13,942
But nothing happened,
and that was truly disappointing.
1082
01:19:16,068 --> 01:19:20,888
The way in which we wanted to handle it then
was to take it out of ministry totally,
1083
01:19:20,974 --> 01:19:24,662
and that's why we took the case to him.
1084
01:19:25,021 --> 01:19:29,130
Weakland had a private conversation
with Cardinal Ratzinger.
1085
01:19:29,885 --> 01:19:34,208
In the end, Cardinal Ratzinger said,
"Well, you probably shouldn't be docile."
1086
01:19:34,495 --> 01:19:37,690
Weakland also had a formal
meeting to plead his case
1087
01:19:37,768 --> 01:19:41,481
at the Congregation
For The Doctrine Of The Faith.
1088
01:19:41,749 --> 01:19:45,476
The deaf community in Milwaukee
wanted to dismiss Father Murphy
1089
01:19:45,554 --> 01:19:49,764
from religious life,
so my heart went out to them.
1090
01:19:49,843 --> 01:19:53,311
And it went out to
the kids in particular
1091
01:19:53,395 --> 01:19:58,454
because they had not been
believed by anybody.
1092
01:19:59,352 --> 01:20:02,008
This meeting was held
in the last week of May.
1093
01:20:02,052 --> 01:20:05,857
In the middle of the summer,
towards August, we got a letter
1094
01:20:05,940 --> 01:20:11,653
that this case would not go forward
because Father Murphy was quite ill.
1095
01:20:15,191 --> 01:20:18,987
I felt awful having to go back
and to say
1096
01:20:19,047 --> 01:20:23,228
there was nothing more I could do,
I felt awful about that.
1097
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:28,441
Weakland actually
made an effort to do
1098
01:20:28,543 --> 01:20:36,332
what any ordinary citizen would do -
get the guy out and protect others.
1099
01:20:36,587 --> 01:20:43,641
However, he did it without
sacrificing his standing
1100
01:20:43,736 --> 01:20:46,985
in the clerical culture
and with the Vatican.
1101
01:20:48,199 --> 01:20:56,097
He had his own sexual activity
that he had to hide and keep secret
1102
01:20:56,260 --> 01:21:00,002
and that distorts the whole picture.
1103
01:21:00,372 --> 01:21:04,100
Weakland's activity was a
homosexual affair that he had had
1104
01:21:04,147 --> 01:21:07,514
with a graduate student who
ultimately blackmailed him
1105
01:21:07,569 --> 01:21:11,467
and the Church for $450,000.
1106
01:21:12,021 --> 01:21:13,795
Weakland's fall from grace
1107
01:21:13,856 --> 01:21:15,966
had nothing to do with
sexual abuse really,
1108
01:21:16,013 --> 01:21:18,317
I mean, it was
a consensual relationship
1109
01:21:18,396 --> 01:21:20,482
with somebody who was 35.
1110
01:21:20,598 --> 01:21:23,753
The big problem was the payoff,
the paying for silence.
1111
01:21:23,791 --> 01:21:25,442
That was the real scandal.
1112
01:21:25,620 --> 01:21:30,790
People who are concerned about about me
asked me how I feel at this moment.
1113
01:21:32,643 --> 01:21:36,588
The best nouns to describe
this feeling would be
1114
01:21:36,797 --> 01:21:38,086
"remorse",
1115
01:21:38,448 --> 01:21:39,838
"contrition",
1116
01:21:40,260 --> 01:21:41,674
"shame",
1117
01:21:42,002 --> 01:21:43,439
and "emptiness".
1118
01:21:44,416 --> 01:21:48,142
He is slandered all the time, people
carelessly saying he's a paedophile,
1119
01:21:48,205 --> 01:21:49,702
which is all nonsense.
1120
01:21:49,744 --> 01:21:53,212
He's come out and said very openly
that he is gay (in his book),
1121
01:21:53,243 --> 01:21:54,766
which also drive people nuts.
1122
01:21:54,844 --> 01:21:57,905
We've got an archbishop
that said that he's gay.
1123
01:21:58,065 --> 01:22:03,002
This scandal distracted people from
a key element of the Murphy story.
1124
01:22:03,154 --> 01:22:06,286
Rome may have refused to
move against Murphy
1125
01:22:06,530 --> 01:22:11,537
because of a letter that Father Murphy
had written to Cardinal Ratzinger.
1126
01:22:13,936 --> 01:22:17,459
"I have repented of any of
my past transgressions
1127
01:22:17,606 --> 01:22:21,538
"and have been living peaceably
in northern Wisconsin for 24 years.
1128
01:22:21,956 --> 01:22:25,159
"I simply want to live out
the time that I have left
1129
01:22:25,229 --> 01:22:28,276
"in the dignity of my priesthood."
1130
01:22:30,554 --> 01:22:36,436
It's not just, "I'm an old man.
I'm an old PRIEST. I'm an old priest.
1131
01:22:36,547 --> 01:22:40,934
"Don't throw me away
because I have this special mark.
1132
01:22:41,328 --> 01:22:44,924
"I am another Christ."
1133
01:22:45,073 --> 01:22:48,612
See, there is a heresy
that the Church teaches.
1134
01:22:49,523 --> 01:22:55,479
When a man is ordained a priest,
he is changed ontologically.
1135
01:22:55,745 --> 01:23:00,120
He is made a different
brand of human being.
1136
01:23:00,214 --> 01:23:03,354
A little less
than the angels.
1137
01:23:04,284 --> 01:23:05,917
These are people set apart.
1138
01:23:05,965 --> 01:23:08,058
They are called, they are chosen
by God, they want to protect
1139
01:23:08,171 --> 01:23:12,210
the sacramentality, the
supernatural element and so that is
1140
01:23:12,265 --> 01:23:16,164
why they were very, very careful
to do anything to the priest.
1141
01:23:17,154 --> 01:23:19,960
A priest can take bread and wine
1142
01:23:20,152 --> 01:23:24,554
and make Jesus Christ
present on this altar.
1143
01:23:25,724 --> 01:23:29,309
He has power
over heaven and hell.
1144
01:23:29,443 --> 01:23:31,824
Somebody comes to you
in confession
1145
01:23:31,936 --> 01:23:35,714
and you say,
"I won't absolve you" -
1146
01:23:36,034 --> 01:23:37,698
He'll be damned.
1147
01:23:39,917 --> 01:23:41,513
The church court informed me
1148
01:23:41,566 --> 01:23:44,615
that Murphy couldn't go to
his church hearing,
1149
01:23:44,701 --> 01:23:46,576
because he was too ill.
1150
01:23:47,019 --> 01:23:49,357
And Murphy wouldn't
live much longer.
1151
01:23:50,922 --> 01:23:54,127
But Murphy went to play the slots.
1152
01:23:55,396 --> 01:23:58,776
And then he collapsed
and was taken to the hospital.
1153
01:24:02,660 --> 01:24:08,324
Murphy passed away and he was
buried in his priestly vestments,
1154
01:24:08,584 --> 01:24:10,675
in a Catholic cemetery.
1155
01:24:16,495 --> 01:24:18,814
Did you ever meet Murphy?
1156
01:24:19,182 --> 01:24:20,189
Once!
1157
01:24:20,345 --> 01:24:23,931
I made him come down
and visit me, and...
1158
01:24:26,447 --> 01:24:30,736
I... I don't , I don't know how to,
how to analyze someone like that.
1159
01:24:30,790 --> 01:24:31,767
I don't.
1160
01:24:32,095 --> 01:24:33,860
Self-delusional...
1161
01:24:34,385 --> 01:24:37,213
uur...
what's sincere and what isn't.
1162
01:24:37,284 --> 01:24:38,985
I couldn't work that out.
1163
01:24:40,112 --> 01:24:45,768
He certainly didn't come off as
an evil, angry person, and so on...
1164
01:24:46,831 --> 01:24:49,960
Probably child-like
it's the best way I could...
1165
01:24:50,151 --> 01:24:52,221
... is best way
I could describe it.
1166
01:25:12,117 --> 01:25:15,720
LOUDSPEAKERS, IN ITALIAN:
'God helps throughout history.
1167
01:25:15,916 --> 01:25:21,993
'While contemplating the mystery
we give thanks to God, and proclaim,
1168
01:25:22,085 --> 01:25:24,789
'We thank you, oh Father.'
1169
01:25:25,941 --> 01:25:28,094
There are many people
inside the Vatican
1170
01:25:28,165 --> 01:25:31,946
who still don't see
how serious a matter this is.
1171
01:25:32,414 --> 01:25:35,290
And the code of Omerta,
the code of silence,
1172
01:25:35,333 --> 01:25:37,407
keeps people from speaking out.
1173
01:25:42,235 --> 01:25:45,313
It's part of the whole psyche
and mentality
1174
01:25:45,363 --> 01:25:47,321
and ethos of the hierarchy.
1175
01:25:47,430 --> 01:25:51,501
This idea that there are enemies
out to destroy the church,
1176
01:25:51,536 --> 01:25:55,716
and do whatever you can to keep
ammunition away from them.
1177
01:25:55,813 --> 01:25:59,711
For centuries the Vatican
has been accustomed
1178
01:25:59,781 --> 01:26:04,213
to, ... to show to the world
always that it is perfect.
1179
01:26:04,308 --> 01:26:08,973
So, you understand that the Vatican
is terrorized that in Italy
1180
01:26:09,051 --> 01:26:13,800
you could have, also,
thousands of sex abuse cases,
1181
01:26:13,886 --> 01:26:18,086
which, up to now,
have been hidden.
1182
01:26:28,040 --> 01:26:30,404
[IN ITALIAN:]
1183
01:27:39,488 --> 01:27:42,718
[IN ITALIAN:]
1184
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Throughout Italy,
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news of victims is often drowned
out by more powerful voices.
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The signal from
Vatican Radio is so strong
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that Romans can often hear Sunday
mass on their electric doorbells.
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But when it comes to
stories about sex abuse,
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there is a deafening silence on
Italy's national networks.
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I think, for Catholic journalists,
it has been a very difficult time.
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My responsibility is a reporter.
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I have to try to tell the truth,
I don't work for the Catholic church.
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I work for a Catholic publication.
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We're not in the business of being cheer
leader for the Holy Seal, or to the bishops,
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but I still hear some of the old
Monsignori in the Vatican,
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saying,
"Oh, boys have always done this,
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"in all-male environments,
it's normal."
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And, I mean,
"This wasn't abuse, these kids,
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"they were interested,
and it's rites of passage."
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I mean...
Even in 2011.
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One bishop made the statement,
"Little boys heal."
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"They will get over it."
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In reference to a priest
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who had marauded
a number of young boys,
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10, 12, 13-year-old boys.
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Ahh.. anally raping them, and thing
like that. You don't heal from that.
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In most instances, your life is
never the same. It's ruined.
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I realised that the Vatican was in
control of every priest and every nun,
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every bishop
and every cardinal,
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and they were all under oath,
they couldn't talk about it.
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I couldn't stand seeing the church
tell everyone to keep quiet,
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and not talk about it.
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Terry, having written to
Cardinal Sodano,
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on that, I felt we
could build a case.
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Jeff said, "Your letter to the
Vatican was very powerful,
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"and I'd be honored
to represent you."
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I immediately agreed,
and signed the paperwork.
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When they left, I said to my wife,
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"Jeff is going to help me
sue the Vatican.
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"He's going to get things in
motion."
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I love Jeff for that.
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Jeff Anderson & Associates
filed a lawsuit
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against the Vatican
on Terry's behalf.
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The suit named Pope Benedict, the
current Vatican Secretary of State,
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Cardinal Bertone, and the former
Secretary of State, Cardinal Sodano.
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What we implore the Vatican
to do in this lawsuit,
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and what we need them to do,
is to act.
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That is, to disclose the secrets,
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the evidence of the crimes
that they have,
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the identities of the offenders,
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and the bishops, archbishops
and cardinals
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that have been complicit
in those crimes, worldwide.
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As a result of Terry's lawsuit,
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documents were uncovered
revealing the role of Rome
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in the worldwide sex abuse scandal
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that caught the attention
of the New York Times.
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These documents seemed
to turn the whole story
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that we'd been writing all
these years, on its head.
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Up until then, what we thought was
that American bishops were at fault.
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With these documents,
for the first time,
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we saw communication
between American bishops
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and in particular the office run by
then-Cardinal Ratzinger,
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in which the American bishops
are pleading
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with officials in the Vatican,
repeatedly,
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saying, "Help us get this
priest out of the priesthood.
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"The victims are asking us
to defrock him."
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And the response from the Vatican is
to have compassion for the priest,
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and almost no thought
at all about the victims.
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And you see that in these documents.
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I was completely unprepared
for the reaction.
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I had no idea
how big the story was.
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I got hate mail, I got hate phone
calls that were anti-Semitic.
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The New York Times,
and me personally,
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we were accused of being
anti-Catholic.
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This is being driven
by Jeffrey Anderson,
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teaming up with the New York Times,
going back half a century.
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The alleged abuse took place
in the 1950s.
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The Vatican didn't find
out about the case until 1996.
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Ratzinger goes ahead and
orders an investigation,
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and during that two-year period
while they are investigating,
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Father Murphy dies.
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Now what exactly was
Ratzinger supposed to do?
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Where is the wrongdoing?
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It appeared to me that Mr Donohue
didn't even read the story.
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The victims, and their advocates,
met with Archbishop Cousins in 1974.
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And there were representatives
of the Vatican in that meeting.
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They were introduced to
two men who said
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they were from the
Papal Nuncio's office.
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There was a way that
the Vatican was informed
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of that case, as early as 1974.
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The Murphy case was reinforced
Jeff Anderson
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in his role as the Vatican's
pubic enemy number one.
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By 2010 he had filed over 1500
lawsuits against the Church.
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Supporters of the Vatican portray
him as a money hungry sheist
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caching in on
the pain of the victims
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And victims see
the lawsuits he brings
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as the only way they can hold the church
to account for what it has done.
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Deny, minimize, and blame.
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And so they now blame
the media,
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they now blame
the lawyers,
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they now even blame
the survivors.
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In 2011, Jeff Anderson & Associates
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attempted to serve legal papers from
Terry's lawsuit, to the Vatican.
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The FedEx package was returned,
with the Vatican's comment marked,
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"undesired and unwanted".
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Forcing Anderson's next attempt
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to be made through the
US State Department.
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The church claims to be,
and is recognised as, a state.
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States have immunities,
states have their own law.
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They are severely disordered,
and that's why they abuse.
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Geoffrey Robertson is
a human rights lawyer,
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and the author of the book
The Case of the Pope.
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He seeks to hold
the Pope accountable
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for crimes against humanity,
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and to demolish the diplomatic
immunity of the Vatican.
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The Vatican is not really a state.
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It's a tiny little
religious enclave in Rome.
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It doesn't have a people.
There are no Vaticanians.
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No-one gets born in the Vatican,
except by accident.
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It's a group of celibate
religious figures.
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It's got no army, no soccer team,
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none of the attributes of statehood.
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Yet it has this power because
of an historical anomaly.
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In 1929, Mussolini made an alliance
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with the man who became
Pope Pious XI.
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The church supported Mussolini's
one-party, fascist state,
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in return for being given
the attribute of statehood.
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It is the creation of a state
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for the Catholic Church,
by fascists.
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This fence is the border
of the country
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that is known as the Vatican.
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178 countries now acknowledge
the Vatican as a state.
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Politicians like to go
and meet the Pope.
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They like to have
the blessing of the Pope,
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to encourage their voters.
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But the Pope poses a problem.
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According to Canon Law,
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the Pontiff cannot be judged by
any civil or religious authority.
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He is beyond the law.
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It will be, I think,
an important task,
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to work out how to bring
the Pope beneath the law,
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by arguing either that the
Vatican is not a real state
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or that the degree of
his negligence
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over the child abuse scandal
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does involve him
in a crime against humanity.
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This is a global church
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that is growing most
rapidly in the developing world.
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In these cultures, the idea
of someone coming forward
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and saying a priest
has done something wrong,
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it doesn't happen.
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There is such a stigma to
this problem,
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so much shame and embarrassment,
but we know it goes on there.
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Because it's a human problem.
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And there have started to
be cases, in Latin America,
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in the Philippines, even some
in Africa and India, very slowly.
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They are about where the American
church was in the 1960s and 1970s.
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There is going to be a delayed
reaction in that part of the world.
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In America, Bishops have taken
some steps to protect children
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and to reckon with
the sex abuse crisis
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But the Church has also begun to
attack survivor's groups in Court.
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One of the church’s
most public defenders
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has been Timothy Dolan, who was
recently promoted to Cardinal.
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In 2009, Dolan was
the Archbishop of Milwaukee,
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where he endured
legal settlements to abuse victims
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that cost the church
more than $26 million.
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When you think of what happened,
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both that a man who proposes
to act in the name of God
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would've abused an innocent young person,
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and that some bishops would have,
in a way, countenanced that,
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by reassigning abusers,
that's nothing less than hideous.
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That's nothing less than nauseating.
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The second story, morally,
is the church's reaction to that,
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which I think has been good.
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Many would disagree.
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The fact is that abuse cases
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continue to surface
all over the country.
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While in Milwaukee,
Dolan met with victims,
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but also took bold steps to protect
the church from their claims.
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Survivors note that Dolan
moved assets
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from living victims to dead souls,
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by transferring $55 million of
church money to a cemetery trust.
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Then in 2011, the Archdiocese
declared bankruptcy.
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But in 2012, 570 victims of
sex abuse,
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including Arthur and Gary,
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were granted the right to
a trial against the Church
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in Milwaukee's bankruptcy court.
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Their goal was to uncover more
documents regarding sex abuse
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and to obtain cash settlements
for survivors.
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This is the largest
organization in the world.
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You have rivers of cash,
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Sunday after Sunday,that flow
into these collection plates.
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There is great concern within
the hierarchy
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about the impact
of the financial losses.
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Eight diocese have taken bankruptcy
protection
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to negotiate mass settlements,
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Boston lost more
than 50% of it's parishes.
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IN ITALIAN:
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Benedict XVI would like to heal
the situation, to heal the victims.
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On the other hand, he is in a
sort of stalemate
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because the organizations
of the victims
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want full transparency
about the past.
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They don't want only that
the priests are defrocked.
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They want full transparency
about the past.
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And I don't think that Benedict XVI
is able to resolve this problem.
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The ongoing revelations
have provoked survivors
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to demand a complete accounting
of all cases of paedophile priests.
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It's the central demand of the
Jerry Kohut lawsuit against the Vatican
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Open the archives.
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The Church is a perfect society.
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And its witness is as perfect
society to the rest of the world.
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If we could get that
out of our minds...
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Maybe we could take the pedestal
away from the priest,
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take the pedestal away from the
cardinals,
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take the pedestal away
from the whole church,
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and be willing to say, "This is us, world.
This is us. This is who we are."
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"We are a church
of imperfect people."
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Jesus wasn't afraid of humanity,
and we shouldn't be either.
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When I'm asked in court,
often times,
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"How many times have you testified
on behalf of the church?"
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And my response usually is,
"Always."
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And they'll say, "Really?!"
"Yeah, really."
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The people, they are the church.
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The victims, their mothers,
fathers, friends,
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those are the church.
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They're the people of God,
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as is found very clearly in the
Gospel stories of Christ.
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They are the people of God,
they're the church.
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Many of the people of God see their
lawsuits as taking back the church.
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In a key victory
in the Milwaukee bankruptcy
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victims uncovered nearly
50,000 pages of documents
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which revealed predatory priests
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and the role the Vatican
played in protecting them.
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Terry recognized that the Pope's
power as a head of state
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would beat back his lawsuit.
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so he withdrew from his own case
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01:42:12,662 --> 01:42:15,896
and join Garry, Arthur
and the bankruptcy plaintiffs
1418
01:42:16,045 --> 01:42:19,130
in their legal crusade
to protect children.
1419
01:42:22,662 --> 01:42:27,283
Hi, my name is Gary Smith. Hello. I
thank you all for coming here today.
1420
01:42:29,212 --> 01:42:31,298
One of our heroes.
1421
01:42:33,759 --> 01:42:36,996
Thank you all for coming here and
supporting us here today.
1422
01:42:37,305 --> 01:42:38,949
Thank you. I love you.
1423
01:42:48,599 --> 01:42:51,951
I'm so glad that all of us are
here and willing to share,
1424
01:42:52,046 --> 01:42:55,405
and I thank the whole team of
lawyers that have been here,
1425
01:42:55,466 --> 01:42:56,990
supporting all of us.
1426
01:42:57,049 --> 01:43:00,291
I really went into hiding
for about 35 years.
1427
01:43:00,368 --> 01:43:04,482
And now I'm here,
and I feel really good.
1428
01:43:04,529 --> 01:43:06,974
The future of the children
is what's important.
1429
01:43:07,060 --> 01:43:10,473
And I decided to come and support
everyone, all the victims.
1430
01:43:12,083 --> 01:43:17,688
That filing of that
bankruptcy did not stop us.
1431
01:43:17,775 --> 01:43:20,065
And will not stop us.
1432
01:43:22,026 --> 01:43:25,510
The idea of a group of deaf men,
1433
01:43:25,595 --> 01:43:29,782
leafleting the cars
outside of a cathedral,
1434
01:43:29,860 --> 01:43:33,622
with a wanted poster of a priest,
1435
01:43:33,733 --> 01:43:37,975
at a time when nobody suspected
1436
01:43:38,172 --> 01:43:42,396
priests of wrongdoing, not
to mention sexual abuse,
1437
01:43:42,538 --> 01:43:48,108
and trying to shout and to warn,
1438
01:43:49,124 --> 01:43:51,975
that just bowled me over.
1439
01:43:52,380 --> 01:43:56,138
They were really the
first victims who realised
1440
01:43:56,238 --> 01:43:59,808
that they had to make public what
was taking place. And they did that.
1441
01:44:00,854 --> 01:44:02,894
And to think that
a quarter of a century later,
1442
01:44:03,042 --> 01:44:05,659
this case is bringing about change,
1443
01:44:05,717 --> 01:44:08,420
that is a moment of resurrection.
1444
01:44:08,521 --> 01:44:11,461
Coming out of this silence,
of this deaf community,
1445
01:44:11,540 --> 01:44:17,448
is this unbelievably loud
and deafening cry for justice.
1446
01:44:56,667 --> 01:45:00,177
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