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Being British East Asian is tough.
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You can be body-shamed
by your own community.
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Instead of saying,
"Hi, how are you?"
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they go, "Hi, you've got fat."
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You can feel bad for looking
different...
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Quite a lot of faff...
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SHE LAUGHS
..for a few lines.
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...and you can be fetishized for your
race.
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They love this oriental aesthetic.
They love it!
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Sometimes it feels like
you're never quite Asian enough
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and never quite British enough.
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This is something that will
not change overnight.
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I'm Elaine Chong.
I'm British-born Chinese...
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I've got this, I've got this.
Go, go, go.
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...and I'm going to show
what it's really like
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to be East Asian and British.
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Not that long ago, I was obese,
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and I got a lot of grief
from my family about it.
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Aunties have always told me
to lose weight
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and made comment on how big I was.
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But I'm not the only one
who's been fat-shamed.
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No matter your size, Asian women feel
a lot of pressure to be tiny.
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Ming's Singaporean,
and was a rising pop star in Taiwan.
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Like, for me,
my goal was to be a singer
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and I would do
whatever it took to be that.
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At that time,
I really abused my body.
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The sad thing was that as I lost
weight, the more popular I became.
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If you look online and you
look at some K-pop diets, like...
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I brought you something. OK.
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So they could literally just be
having, like...
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THEY LAUGH
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And then some nuts.
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And this is what K-pop people would
eat, which is really crazy
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and really sad. There you go.
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Bon appetit. Oh, my God.
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It's cabbage, nuts and misery.
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So is this breakfast or lunch or...?
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For some K-pop stars, this is
a meal for the whole day.
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Oh, no!
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That's so bleak. Yeah. It's crazy.
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So shall we start lunch?
Yeah, why not? Cheers! Mmm!
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This is awful.
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MING LAUGHS
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At one point,
I wanted to kill myself.
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I just didn't want to be alive,
which is really awful to think
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that I was driven to that point
purely by my weight alone.
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And to be honest, it even took me
a while
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to even realise I had an eating
disorder.
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I've just realised
for the first time in my life,
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I've never actually heard someone
talk about these issues in Asia
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and call it what it is,
an eating disorder.
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I always associate it
with people in the West,
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and that's something
that they go through.
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But of course that's what it is.
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It's just that over there,
you think about it as discipline.
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It's always seen as a good thing.
Something to be proud of. Yeah.
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It's good to be that self-controlled
Asian woman
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who is very tiny and petite.
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Once I did accept myself,
it took about three years
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and I slowly went back to what
I now believe is my natural weight,
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and I'm really happy-
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So the expectation is to be skinny.
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But in Asia, food is love and our
families are always feeding us.
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How am I supposed to be slim and eat
all of this at the same time?
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Here's the thing.
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In Chinese culture,
if you're a lady,
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yourjob is to find a hubby,
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and you can't find a hubby
if you're chubby.
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LAUGHTER
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I've been chubby all of my life
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and this was a big concern
to my mom, so much so
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that she actually sat me down
when I was a kid and she told me,
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"Evelyn, if you don't lose weight,
men won't find you attractive."
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And I was like, "Oh, wow, OK."
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And I took that in and I thought
about it and I was like,
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"Then I guess men aren't for me?"
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LAUGHTER
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Do Asians have an unhealthy
relationship with food?
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I don't know, but I think there's
something about Asians and food
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which is, when you come
from a culture
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that isn't very verbally expressive,
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like, we don't say "l love you"
to each other, we don't hug,
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so there's none of that physical
affection either,
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then to me, I think food sort of
slips into that
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as that method of communication.
Yes, definitely.
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So my mum's not going to hug me,
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fine, but she is going to make sure
if I'm back,
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she's got my favourite dish
ready for me. Exactly.
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Every time I go back, my mom always
asks me,
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"What do you want to eat?
I'll make it."
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And then the other side of it
is that I got fat from eating
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and overeating and being fed
and stuff,
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and then it's like, "No, no, no."
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"You have to lose weight otherwise
you won't be attractive
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"and then you won't find a husband
and then your life is doomed."
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Do you know what a mukbang is? Yes.
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Mukbang is the online eating craze
from South Korea.
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Mukbangers livestream themselves
eating,
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and millions of their fans
watch them gorge on huge meals.
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Some people say that it's about...
you watch it
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because then you can satiate your
cravings without having to eat. Oh.
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Who gets pleasure from watching
somebody eat? It's a bit pervy.
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I'm worried about who watches
these videos
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and what they do when they watch it.
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Oh! I guess, but I suppose
I've always imagined myself
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as the person doing the eating,
so I'm like, "Yes!" Oh, I see.
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So... I thought we could do one?
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Do you want to do one? Yes.
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I just press there. Cheers.
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SHE BURPS
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Wow. This is not that easy.
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Are we done?
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When was the last time you ate
like this? Yesterday.
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ELAINE LAUGHS
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The mixed messages about eating
stresses me out,
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so I turn to fitness.
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Right now I'm smaller, which means
the Asian aunties are nicer to me.
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The pressure to be skinny
and stay skinny
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is a source of pride
for some Asian people.
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YouTube is full of viral challenges
showing off how small they are.
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Yeah, no. Oh, no! No way.
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Like, this is ridiculous.
Yeah, no.
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No way. I'm more like A3.
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You know what I am? I'm like...
this way.
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Oh, yeah, exactly.
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When you said A4 paper challenge,
this is actually what I imagined.
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The average woman in China
is 5ft 1 and 57kg.
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Right now, I'm 5ft 9 and 67kg.
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I'm tall for a Brit but in Asia,
I'm basically Godzilla.
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So, like, I, at my smallest,
was a size 2. Oh, my goodness.
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You see? That's, like, half of me.
Yeah.
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It's hard to imagine an adult woman,
maybe, getting into...
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Yeah, it's funny how Asian sizes
work because, I mean,
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in the UK, I'm maybe a small
or extra small.
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But in Singapore,
if I go to a sport shop,
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I'm only a large or an extra large.
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And if a small is an extra large,
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then what does someone who wears
an extra large wear?
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There's no size for them.
They don't, do they? Exactly.
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And it's sad because it makes you
feel
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there's something wrong with you
because clothes don't fit you.
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Exactly. You can't exist
in the world as other people can.
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Oh! 100%. I feel it.
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In Asia, there's a stereotype
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that the Asian kids who grew
up in the West are bigger,
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even if they're not at all.
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It's completely normal for everyone
to make unsolicited comments
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on your weight and to tell you
to lose some, no matter what.
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Hey, guys,
and welcome back to my channel.
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Today, we're talking about
how to forgive yourself.
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Usually when I arrive back
in Hong Kong, instead of saying,
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"Hi, how are you?"
they go, "Hi, you've got fat."
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And they'll say it in Cantonese.
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It's literally a three-word phrase
the same as "How are you?"
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So they'll literally be like,
"Hi! Lai ho fai!"
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That's the thing that I hear most
and I don't even speak Cantonese,
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yet I know what that phrase means.
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I'm tired of feeling this constant
pressure from my community,
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so I'm seeing Michelle to get
some help with my body issues.
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When you're body-shamed,
for example,
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what meaning are you associating
with that?
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So what I would usually get is,
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"Oh, you're bigger
since I last saw you!"
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And they're saying it with a smile
and they're saying it as they say hi
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and it makes me... I want to
shrivel up
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or not take up so much space.
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Like, I feel not appropriate.
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Even washing my hands in the sink,
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I'm not going to...look up in the
mirror, you know? I feel like...
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...genuine disgust and dread.
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You are being hurt by the comments
and rightfully so,
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and I don't think in Asian culture,
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it's ever really recognised enough
that it hurts.
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A lot of this emotion is shame,
and it's not yours.
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It's their problems with their body,
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projected onto you.
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They have internalised
the culture around them
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of being told
that they were never thin enough,
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so they've just carried on
the cycle.
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Like a baton that was just passed
on. Yeah.
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So how about we move over
to the mirror
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and let's get some of these
beliefs out of your brain.
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Just the first thing
that comes to mind
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when you look at your reflection.
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I feel a bit nervous about doing
this.
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It's not, um...
fun to look in the mirror.
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Oh, it makes me feel
so uncomfortable.
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I feel...wrong, somehow.
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I feel, um...
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I feel not...
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...not enough, somehow.
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But then at the same time I feel...
also too much.
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I want you to go back
to a younger version of yourself,
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a moment in your life
when you were body-shamed.
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I think I was about seven.
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I really liked horses
when I was little,
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but I was really anxious
about getting on the horse
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because I thought I would be too
heavy.
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That was such a paralysing fear.
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I was like, "The horse might buckle
under me or something."
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So go back to her. OK.
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And say, "l'm sorry." I'm sorry.
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That I never gave you the chance.
That I never gave you the chance.
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And the best part of this...
And the best part of this...
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...is that I'm going to take you
horse riding.
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...is that I'm going to take you
horse riding.
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And we're going to have
a lot of fun.
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We're going to have a lot of fun.
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Because you deserve it.
Because you deserve it.
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Hello, hi!
Are you ready to ride today?
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I am, but I am a bit nervous.
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Push yourself up
and swing your right leg over.
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I feel like a kid.
I feel like Louis is really sturdy.
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He seems quite happy, I think.
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Yay! Whoo!
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How are you feeling, good?
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I'm feeling good. ls Louis OK?
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ELAINE LAUGHS
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Yeah! Sit up nice and tall.
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I think Michelle was right.
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The only way I can work through this
is to get back on the horse,
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so to speak.
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The worry that I felt when I was a
child about maybe hurting the horse,
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like, it was completely unfounded.
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Well done!
Thank you for putting up with me.
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It's become even more clear to me
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that my weight is not linked
to my happiness.
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It's not about me physically
at all, at any size.
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And because of that realisation,
I feel a lot lighter.
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Physically and mentally.
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And that's a relief.
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