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these are the stories of how history's
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most important music seeds influenced
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our culture and change the way we live
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under the influence
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back in 1655 the Sun never set on the
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British Empire that year the British
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Navy kicked the Spanish out of Jamaica
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and claimed a large Caribbean island in
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the name of the mother country england's
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colonies from Asia to Africa and
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throughout the Western Hemisphere helped
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make it one of the wealthiest most
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influential empires of world has ever
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seen
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the 19th century saw England's
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industrial revolution blossom the rich
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got richer and the way to working-class
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Works changed forever or it is the
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Empire which encodes one quarter of all
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the land and of all the peoples of the
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world that gives to Britain its position
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as a first-class power then came the
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wars by the time World War two ended
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eating was badly bruised looking to its
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far-flung colonial population to help
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rebuild by the time of the 1970s the
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influx of immigrants with brown skin led
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to unprecedented racial tension with
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economic downturn and energy crisis
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putting the country in a state of
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emergency the government had put a cap
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on wages while inflation spiked out of
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control workers went our strike power
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outages were the routine power lines are
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being drawn along race and class like
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never before
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post Empire Great Britain was locked in
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a struggle to define itself I mean it
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was kicking off here man
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you know we had riots in the late 70s
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talking massive unemployment three day
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weeks rise the National Front the
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popular music at the time was like a
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million miles removed from the feeling
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on the street the cultural climate was
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pretty dread me and the brothers we had
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a soundtrack to ease our pain we had
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reggae but my white mates weren't so
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lucky
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so my white mates said about creating a
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soundtrack that was relevant to their
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situation some of the people for the
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people by the people
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London was the center of the punk-rock
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universe the Roxy turned out to be the
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very first live pop rock venue in the UK
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it was so early in the whole punk rock
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scene that there weren't any UK Punk
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records to play so what am I gonna do
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I'm gonna play some highlights on
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playing hardcore dub reggae and this all
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really came out of the fact that all
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these white kids grew up with black
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people living next door
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we weren't alien we weren't exotic we
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were their mates so there are some
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serious cultural exchange going on man
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went to tone broke it hit big time they
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had a magic combination of danceable
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music with style and attitude but the
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art is being able to slip ideas in
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underneath all of that I mean you know
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they're singing about unemployment
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they're singing about racism they're
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singing about teenage pregnancy the band
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directly multiracial and they signposted
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the way that UK culture was heading that
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it was the people that got behind
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multiculturalism that would make England
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great again and out of that came this
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whole 2-tone movement
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The Specials and they were the most
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politicized of all the bands ghost town
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perfectly captured the atmosphere of the
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time and the mood of the country I mean
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that's why we're number one this job
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if England was a 45 rpm record Coventry
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would be the hole in the middle floors
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Luton industrial city Coventry was the
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Detroit of England lots of car factories
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lot of Industry a large immigrant
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population my Rousseff in Jamaica my
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parents come from Jamaica my father
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moved the company because of work to
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rebuild England after the last World War
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you know just before I left Jamaica the
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big Sun was like sort of ask ask ask and
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this dance like that
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Jamaica ask people is old and as a
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little kid you know
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I got the music world you know and it
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was through scar obviously two-tone
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black and white it's a melting pot you
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got the register side we got the pump
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size I'm more aggressive and you put all
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those people together it was a perfect
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marriage in England it was essentially a
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working-class movement in the Midlands
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where most are two terms started there
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was an interesting industrial
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integration if you're working on a
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factory track next to somebody it don't
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really matter what color e is after five
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or six years you get the idea that
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you've got way more in common than your
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differences all over the Empire but
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particularly in the Caribbean people
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were invited come over for three years
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help rebuild the mother country or make
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a fortune people ended having kids in
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England before they had enough money to
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buy the castle in Jamaica and you know
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Jim English like Thank You Roger
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we would live in in times where there
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was high unemployment there was a lot of
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racism and out came all these different
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bands who were trying to merge different
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types of music together and the beat
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happened to be one of them
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around that time I was 16 17 and I was a
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punk-rocker
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and I got a lot of abuse from people
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just for being a punk being what I
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wanted to be and the punks love me so I
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knew there wasn't racism within the
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punks and even a lot of the skin is raw
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rice once you've got to talk to them
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there were anti-nazi skins and there was
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Nazi skins and then it was very hard to
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tell the difference unless they shook
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around or knotted you could scoot and
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they said oh I like that but black Jesus
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or what Jesus will stage together oh
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I'll have a bit of that but we mainly it
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went well that's why we do this of
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course we thought you'd like it thanks
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mate one of the first students mirror in
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the bathroom I heard this Punk rhythm
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going up and I heard this drummer
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playing reggae but he says to me lights
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are on he thought he was playing punk
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all he knew was to hit him hard
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this is ever at Morton new wave mixture
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of reggae mixed we saw there was Calypso
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there was punk there was putt there was
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everything mixed into it and we don't
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know what time it comes from we all just
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kind of meld it together
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there were not that many mixed race
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women that you would find either in the
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media on television on radio people were
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very surprised I think to find black
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people and white people being in the
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same band and making music together and
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that was the whole point at the end of
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Britain's industrial age all grieve was
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a confrontation from the Middle Ages
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Margaret Thatcher had just come to power
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so we have a Conservative government in
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power there was a lot of youth
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unemployment around there were also laws
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on the streets called anti softs laws
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which meant that if you were black and
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you were young you could be picked up
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and interrogated for no real reason at
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all rather than you just happen to be
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hanging around
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The Specials and gangsters went top 10
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and then they brought I think it was
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madness at Nicks and that went top 2 and
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then the selector that went up 10 and
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that's when we came along and opened up
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for the selector we were the fourth
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release one to toll that went top ten
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within nine months of the ban forming
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we're already on top of the pups by the
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time we got to New York It was as though
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we'd set up this mobile sociology class
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that just had music in the back to
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listen to who are you discuss race
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relations in order to be anything in the
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late 70s early eighties you had to
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actually be saying something we came out
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with a song called stand down Margaret
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which all the women at Green and common
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at the time I mean I remember hearing
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them on the news singing stand her
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Margaret which was our song and the
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miners who were on strike that was
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ground roots working-class music
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I thought we bring out standard air
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Margaret and it would cause such an
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uproar she go you know you're right
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you've called me honest
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sorry I'm out no everything that been
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the longest serving Prime Minister in
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British history and all my fault it's
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about that was intense
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specials keyboards a two-pump founder
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Jerry Dammers the mastermind of the
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whole movement began to doubt the whole
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thing in New York when a limo showed up
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to take the specials to her Center at
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live performance Dammers refused
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arriving at Rockefeller Center in the
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equipment van not a limo a sign of
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things to come was in a few short years
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most two-tone bands had broke up and
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moved on but two-tone as an idea
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survived the message the music and the
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style were here to stay
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two-tone is in my estimation subculture
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but it's like an umbrella for a whole
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load of subcultures they all have their
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own individual styles of dress but one
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thing I think you can say about all
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two-tone style is it is rooted in
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working-class youth skin ants were cut
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off Levi's how many holes you have in
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your boots is absolutely paramount what
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color your laces are all of those kind
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of thing and certainly the whole mod
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style that was always you wore your best
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stuff because you want to look good at
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the weekend you don't want to look like
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a hippie
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I sort of deliberately drew the fists
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quite big because it's will symbolized
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the the aggression we have here the
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actual artwork that I did all those
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years ago yeah that's the that's the
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original artwork that I drew and that
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was to become the the 7-inch single bag
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and also the 12-inch he was christened
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walk James go and check this out
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tutto founder Jerry Dammers marled the
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actual two-tone guy after the image at
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Peter Tosh during pure Tosh's Rudeboy
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era look closely
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that's Peter Tosh I'm getting Minnie
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Mouse from Mexico and Singapore to say
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you know when you're going to show all
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this artwork from where is this hard
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work you know love it was either lying
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under my bed or in my mum's shed got it
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all together and we had a great
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exhibition I met up with a Chinese
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delegation that come over to some mare
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from some water city in China I said
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then you have a scar event that's it yes
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that's right how do you know about that
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it's all sky is really big in China it's
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us really and and that's how that's how
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it spreads throughout the world it this
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sleeve summed it all up
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when the movie dance craze played our
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local cinema in the East Bay Northern
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California I remember seeing it with my
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crew and we're so overwhelmed by the
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music that we started dancing right
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there in front of the screen
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who the hell does that in 1987 Berkeley
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California opened up a punk rock club
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run by the punks for the punks called
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Gilmer Street man it all started to
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happen quickly Operation Ivy formed
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right after the club opened up and we
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start to play our version of punk rock
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and sky there are other American ska
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bands going on at the same time as
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Operation Ivy not a lot but they were
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out there fishbone on the west coast
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toasters and the box tones on the East
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Coast we didn't know it at the time but
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we'd become known as members of the
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third wave of sky
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yo gabba gabba is a punk rock like it's
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a punk rock show in the way that we did
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it ourselves just like we did Aquabats
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records growing up in the 80s in
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Southern California I never got a pure
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ska experience the mutant bands that
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played ska here it was more Punk
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so Operation Ivy was really on an island
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of their owns 86 87 there was no one
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else doing that it was kind of like a
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here today gone tomorrow and all those
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bands that came in to start the third
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wave of ska were directly affected by
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Operation Ivy bands like no doubt and
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supply listen Jake real be fish skank
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and pickle hepcat and then you have the
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Aquabats we used to say all the time
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that the Aquabats was The Specials meets
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Devo so you had a lot of bands in
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Southern California you know heavy
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Latino Vietnamese and Chinese like this
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big melting pot whereas Punk seemed like
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it was a white kid thing and then rap
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became you know that black kids think
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Scott it really said whoever just come
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on in when we first started the Aquabats
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we didn't take ourselves super seriously
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in a scene that wasn't taking itself
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seriously we pushed even further into
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the ridiculousness of it this is an old
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Aquabats shirt right here this pink one
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the Scott sound for a second everyone
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thought was gonna be the next big thing
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and no doubt broke and so all the record
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companies went out and started picking
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up all the bands that were playing Scott
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cuz Orange County ska was like okay this
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is it and he even had bands that were
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totally Punk and they just switched to
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ska and they were like suspenders in
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suits and stuff just to get signed when
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it really came down to it the mainstream
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is not gonna accept the ska it just it
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was never gonna happen
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hello everybody I think it's time for
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the super music
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so I wanted to shift gears a little bit
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and I was watching TV with my daughter
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some of these shows that are like what
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why does his kids TV have to be so lame
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and that's where yo gabba gabba was born
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we won an Emmy for Best stunts and a
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kids show and then that's next to the
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BAFTA here so I started playing music
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for my kids and the stuff that they
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really liked was the Scott kids we're
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bouncing around to it those upbeats
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means it's okay have fun and we've been
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able to put a lot of ska on yo gabba
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we had agra lights on without hep cat on
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the aquabats of course and you know a
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couple of the characters on Gabba wear
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Aquabats monsters that we fight on stage
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this is where we keep the battletram
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this is the Aquabats battle vehicle
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dun dun dun this is a monster we built
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for Aquabats
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my son designed this monster this is a
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badass car as it gets right here pick it
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up pick it up
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mas that became ground zero for racial
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intolerance everybody that created
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policy at that time seemed to have my
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skin color but not my best interest in
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mind
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kids and young people don't really want
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to get caught up in the [ __ ] of
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their parents and sort of what was being
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handed down like hey [ __ ] this we feel
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good when I went inside the English be
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ranking Roger [ __ ] went for you know
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and that's what I was looking for party
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with with the political attitude and
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from from there I never looked back
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when we were 18 years old he went down
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to New York City to see madness perform
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on Saturday life Suggs was a huge
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airline and and you know my first band
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it was you know my hair was exactly like
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Suggs cutting the flag car up in the
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round glasses and overcoats you know in
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an effort to label ourselves after years
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of saying we don't want to be labeled we
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named a record sky core the devil and
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more
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it's a sky band with a guitar player
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that rips and a singer that can't sing I
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toured so much and I really needed to
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rest it coincided with Jimi starting his
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TV show and I knew him because he was a
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longtime radio guy and he said once you
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try announcing for this show and I said
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oh that'll never work
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yeah I'm the announcer and I still do a
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certain amount of shows with the Mighty
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Mighty Bosstones every year and I credit
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and I thanked every day you know the
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music that I got into the music that I
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fell in love with in the records that
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changed my life and said hey you know
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we're here for you
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in the realm of pop music the third wave
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did crash but the classic mix of
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Jamaican dance music and punk now known
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throughout the world of ska spread
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throughout the empire of popular culture
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evolving uniquely in each place in time
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the freaks and weirdos
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when we were 15 15 we decided to start a
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bath
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we are in Bergen in eCollege good in our
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heads
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this is called murder please I think
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when we discovered to toe that culture
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represented like toughness that I think
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we're really related to everyone is
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acting or being like really tough but
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they're dressed really nice but in
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Bergen if you're in a punk band you look
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so dirty and [ __ ] disgusting
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everything about the culture is really
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appealing to us the the clothes the
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musics and good vibes so you know for
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sure skin had the adventure type of walk
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on the mail tab watch another live
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someone that was wrong so they're not
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sure Joe Poonam gone male 2 position we
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title yami-san whatever was there - oh
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ho Thomas er well as the current AG
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community generally they're on a whole
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kikuchi you even know you know what some
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can do that you may not remember it
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somehow theater
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yeah mm ah ba ba ba gua gua follow the
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other steady men Jordan ago you did
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Salman Khan sir
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and is a boy I know you guys are working
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class hopefully so cheers inaudible
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working and Phoenicia contagious for me
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understand I allergic to those overall
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terracing citizen a pleasure sir you
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have a true sir your opponent's tracker
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you got killed on a terminal for
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exposure
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I remember someone had a special record
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and we were play the [ __ ] out of it
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that song ghost town to me was the
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epitome of like how I felt at that time
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period you know so sublime was like in
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that scene too in a sense because they
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were playing ska too you know they had a
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ska band before that sloppy seconds I
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grew up in Long Beach our cult gang was
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made up of punker kids you know black
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white Thai Cambodian you know you name
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it I was 18 my mind was open and you
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know I was just kind of trying to create
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some imagery that I thought would tell a
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story and that was like the first image
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like the beginning of the Sun and I
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think Brad walked in when I was like
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finishing it up and he was like oh
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that's cool what are you gonna do with
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that I think he threw me 20 bucks
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people still call me to this day from
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New York Canada Japan all over there
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they came to be in Cali I want to get a
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sublime Sun I didn't think that I'd
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still be tattooing it I used to think
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these people don't deserve it
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but I thought about it a lot and I was
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like it means more you know to them than
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I know I have to give it you know that's
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weird like Brad's like this martyr you
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know like he died for this drug
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addiction thing you know and a lot of
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people can relate with that they were
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recording the self-titled album I think
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that was like close to the last time I
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saw him when I was done taking the
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picture and I was like happy that's the
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glorious moment of tattooing you can't
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just give your all and not be affected
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by it you know he [ __ ] spit his heart
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and soul onto that album and that's what
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we have
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he's not like just a guitar player
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singer you know he had like a musical
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vision
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how's that saying go if we don't know
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our history we are doomed to repeat it
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the lessons of 2-tone are as relevant
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today as ever
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any time we the people see something we
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don't like in the world there's really
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only one thing to do come together and
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make some noise
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you bring in your own influences to it I
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was influenced by up IV rancid and the
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specials and a bunch of other bands but
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then I brought in my element alike or
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maybe I'll sing this song in Spanish
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tonight we got a show at South Bay
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customs in El Segundo at a typical show
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you have Punk's skins rude boys food
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girls surfer types and skaters and it's
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all a big melting part of every style
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even some cholos to the South Bay is
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about 30 minutes south of Los Angeles
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next to South Central but by the Beach
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area
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it's a little rough it's kind of sketchy
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but that's where you grew up you know
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our first shows were like opening up for
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DJ's and backyard keg parties to cholo
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the backyard scene is equivalent to the
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East Coast basement shows you get some
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bands the clubs won't book you so you
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kind of just throw your own party and
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hopefully people show up to see your
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band that's all you're trying to do try
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and get people to see your band in a
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back yard
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that's how it starts for a lot of the
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bands and that in itself has created its
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own community and seeing where there's
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no rules it'll be like a punk band
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straight like two-tones band scar core
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bands got punk a psychobilly band so you
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get all that and one night tonight we
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got a show with the the Voodoo gloss
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schools which are the first Latino Scott
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Punk or whatever I mean there are like
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88 and I saw them climb they were on the
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radio and these dudes are from like the
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hood they're from Riverside like that
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can happen
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they're definitely the beginning of that
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arrow for a lot of us it's a natural
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connection between the SKA and like the
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Latin American side because there's
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horns
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it's danceable music a lot of people
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love the dance and there's very
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working-class and it's about the
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original kind of way it's just there
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they're only taking flavor and it's all
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regionally from where they are
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there's a huge scene in Mexico big bands
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in their own right that just have a
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completely different take on two-tone
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maldita vecindad the shows are amazing
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eight thousand plus people they're just
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dancing
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Ellen context todo esta musica mexicana
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toda la musica mexicana Co a locker to a
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mexicana es una cultura totalmente
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mestiza to Sparano Soto's slls Kyra gets
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first Solomon tune elemento mass a
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combina a Peron elemento que nos
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identificado or que por que los rudeboys
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goes back to pseudos del ESCA Eireann
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exactamente como los pachucos noon but
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you kiss my tootin van comaat resultado
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la mera mera maldita lucinda premier
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b-school especial de la primera roll
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their message to you Rudy
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Nicole's cook Charlie Wow is this when I
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come up abandon a Pueblo de Oaxaca could
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make a con like t2 Punk la misma sincere
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del barrio de la fiesta del barrio star
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a little caper de la del Barrio miss
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made empty that ambient contain iam
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rudeboys him in Jamaica or tow alive
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under the mean the working class in
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grammar Italian laundress in Inglaterra
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Agora Moses de Janeiro in oakum
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bonanno's composes referencia noel mambo
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la cumbia either choke me and said
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afro-latino vamos a hablar de todo lo
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que NOS venire todo para members do lo
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que es la situación de River en mexico
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siendo joven pero lo vamos hacer con a
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Liriano lo vamos hacer para bailar no lo
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vamos hacer para hacer la Qatar seized a
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del Alegria no connect on Elemento
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Festiva
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Latin America like the Caribbean has its
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own colonial legacy and storied history
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of resistance and revolution long
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referred to as a third world countries
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like Chile are no stranger of social
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upheaval dictatorship and outside
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influence of global superpowers you see
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these days the Empire has a different
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name but two struggles the same this new
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generation was not born during the death
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of shape none of the friends so there
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are very radical individuals take a
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great artists like Anna Teague she
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telling her own people story language
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because I think music is like how you
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see this in like the biography of your
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life my parents are always has been
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involved in politics my mother used to
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being a punk man when I was young I
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think my mother used to be protesting
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whenever I was in the building I think
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that was already my DNA at home we had a
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dictatorship for 70 years
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and in the 80s with another perspective
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one reason a person arrow is like no
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we're going to burn everything but
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ironic action action action action in
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the street action now and I think that
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was a bomb for the youth in the 80s I
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love when I see an artist that is honest
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and not trying to be kind or nice I love
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The Specials
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form it was so so hip-hop like a mixture
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between the England Jamaica or dust in
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my ear like are they [ __ ] amazing I
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love that one if you think about the
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special if you think about Public Enemy
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think about and obeah is a response of a
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very specific moment of crisis political
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social economic when the rage becomes
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songs basically and that's not a magic
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moment when we talk about colonization
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is not only about the addition from
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North America to loot Latin America I'm
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talking about also colonization in
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Africa
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the file can be very similar in so many
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way with Chilean fight when we talk
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about human right and and humanity is
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not only about Chileans a fight against
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dictatorship in the world as artists we
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got that mission always to be very aware
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to not become logotype of our own
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fighting it's just about to see what
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happened in your neighborhood in your
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community it's not a CEO it move from
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generation to generation yeah because I
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had no idea how popular the specials was
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until you go on Facebook and Sonny
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killer get all these messages like
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Argentina Pizza I mean is incredible
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tell me a little bit I put on to one
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thing good music lyrical content that
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makes sense that still means something
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today
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I consider that two-tone is an ongoing
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conversation with the population in the
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world because they don't wake up to the
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fact that multiculturalism is the future
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and the only way you're going to get rid
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of racism is through miscegenation black
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people and white people doing what they
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should be doing with each other which is
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making people who look like
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we grew up immersed in the music that
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was about helping you change your mind
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not your [ __ ] sneakers it can't spend
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your life on the dance floor man
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eventually a musics gonna stop the
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newness to go out and face reality once
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you say okay I don't want to be on MTV
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don't want to be on a red carpet
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then the worlds are really exciting
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place again and luckily I get to travel
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and see that there are a lot of people
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that still believe in music as a tool
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for social change music that can help
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you be all you can be
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and 2-tone was part of that lineage that
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heritage that tradition and long may it
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live
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The Specials madness The Selecter that
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beat Body Snatchers and bad Mans
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Buddha's truth time sky
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