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Courthouses are supposed to be
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places of calm and dignity,
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where order is maintained
and justice is served,
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but when stakes and emotions
are at their highest,
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cool heads don't
always prevail.
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Coming up...
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We, the jury, find the
defendant, Daniel villegas...
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...fears and tears
as a man awaits his fate in
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a third capital murder trial.
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I believe that the tension,
you could cut it with a knife.
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A callous killer faces
a father's fury.
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And a judge leaps
through his courtroom
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in a single bound.
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I just wanted to get them.
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From superheroes
to a whiny mama's boy.
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You're gonna make me stand up
my own mother,
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my 83-year-old mother?
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With key insights
from our team of crime
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and legal experts.
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Stalkers are
notorious for making
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their victims
lives a living hell.
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On "chaos in court."
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On November 5, 2018,
Lisa balch passes out justice
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for hartley t-shirts
outside a Vancouver,
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Washington, courthouse.
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Five-year-old
hartley Anderson
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was murdered just
three days earlier.
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She was at our Halloween party
at work on Wednesday,
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and I got my last
hug from her.
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It's heartbreaking to see
somebody go through all this.
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Lisa balch is one of
the many hartley family
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supporters who gather
for the arraignment
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of the child's alleged killer,
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37-year-old Ryan burge.
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Rendelman: In 2018,
burge had been dating
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the mother of
this five-year-old child.
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He was babysitting
for the child.
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The mother returned home
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and found the child
unresponsive and unconscious.
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Hartley's mother,
nataasha luchau,
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immediately calls 911.
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911.
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Ryan burge says that
she has a temper tantrum,
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and that she goes
into her room and starts
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banging her head
against the wall,
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ultimately
losing consciousness.
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But other than that, he said
he had nothing to do with it.
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He never touched her.
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Tragically, hartley
dies later at the hospital.
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An autopsy reveals
severe head trauma,
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and her death
is ruled a homicide.
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This was a very severe beating
that caused her death,
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and it just obviously couldn't
be explained away that
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she hit her head.
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It's not uncommon as police
officers, when we show up to
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calls where a child
has been hurt,
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that someone will try to come
up with a very simple reason
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why the child was injured.
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Oftentimes, those stories that
they give just don't match
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the injuries.
-Bryant: It turns out,
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nataasha luchau,
the mother of little hartley,
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has been dating Mr. Burge only
four months -- doesn't have
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a real clear picture of his
background, which turns out to
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have included
a number of crimes.
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Ryan burge was
arrested in 2008 and spent
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six years in prison for
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setting fire to on apartment
building and trying to collect
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the insurance money.
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Now, the mom had no idea
about Ryan's prison record.
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So even though his criminal
history doesn't show that
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he has any history of violence
toward anyone, much less kids,
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the fact that
he's babysitting a child,
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the child of the woman he's only
been dating for four months,
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could be a recipe for disaster.
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Bryant: Nataasha luchau is
wrestling with so many emotions.
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Yes, she's just
lost her child,
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but she must probably also be
feeling some guilt.
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At a candlelight vigil,
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hartley's mom speaks out.
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The child's biological father,
Peter Anderson, is by her side.
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Life will never be the same
without her again.
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Hartley isn't here to tell you
how much all your love and care
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has meant, so I'll have to do it
for her.
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For her -- hartley, you'll
always be in our hearts.
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I love you so much.
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We will never stop fighting
for justice for you.
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At burge's arraignment,
inside the courtroom,
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the grief and tension is
excruciating as the family
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awaits burge's arrival.
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This is only three days after
the murder of this little girl,
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and everybody's heart
just goes out to the mother.
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They all have t-shirts on
for hartley,
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and they're packed
in this courtroom.
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The stakes are extremely high,
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as the family sees burge
for the first time since
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the child's death.
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Rendelman:
So as the defendant walks out,
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you can hear the audible cries
of the family members.
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You killed my baby.
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Bove: This defendant is
brought into the courtroom
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wearing a suicide smock.
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Apparently,
the security had found out
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that he may be
a danger to himself.
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The material made from
a suicide smock is material that
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just rips easy
so they can't hang themselves.
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It gives you an inside
look into what the mindset
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or the emotional state
of Ryan is.
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Before
the proceeding even begins,
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hartley's mother,
nataasha luchau,
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is overwhelmed with emotion
and collapses.
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The mother of hartley
Anderson, the woman that had
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actually brought this demon
into the family and had
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introduced him
to this five-year-old,
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was so devastated when she saw
him that she physically had to
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be lifted and taken out of
the courtroom.
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Peter Anderson,
hartley's biological father,
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is just out of
the camera's view
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in the corner of the courtroom.
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To have to be in
a courtroom with the man who
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murdered your child is gonna
be difficult for anyone.
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And that really became
the boiling point for
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hartley's father.
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As a court officer, I know
from experience that dealing
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with an infant
or a baby's death,
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that the family is definitely
on edge,
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and the father just lost it.
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Bove: They cuffed him
for safety purposes,
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not only for the court
officers, but also for himself.
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This father did
what anybody might do,
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but going after the defendant
really doesn't help anybody.
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It just makes everybody
more upset, more tense,
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and it does nothing to promote
getting justice for hartley,
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and that's the ultimate goal.
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After order is
restored in the courtroom,
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Ryan burge enters a plea
of not guilty,
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which only infuriates
hartley's family even more.
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Outside,
they pray for justice.
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One of the saddest aspects
is not just, you know,
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the fact that
this child is gone,
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but the grandfather comes out
of the courtroom and explains
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how this defendant has robbed
them of this grandchild.
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I'll never get to see her
graduate from high school,
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be married, or anything.
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He took that from US.
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He took the joy
we had with her away.
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He -- I just hope the --
the system works.
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His hope is soon realized.
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On February 13, 2020,
Ryan burge
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is convicted of
second-degree murder.
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He is sentenced
to 40 years in prison.
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He's gonna be in jail
for pretty much
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the rest of his life.
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In youngstown, Ohio,
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62-year-old Dale Williams sr.
Is in
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court after pleading guilty to
gunning down his girlfriend,
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46-year-old Elizabeth pledger-
Stewart, in cold blood.
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Rendelman: Dale Williams sr. Had
been with the victim for about
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four years.
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They had a pretty tumultuous
relationship in which
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he would often be jealous
of the victim.
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Toward the end,
it was getting really bad.
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In fact, the defendant sent her
a threatening text
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the night before the murder
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saying the world would be
a better place without you.
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She told the cops about it.
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They didn't even
have the chance
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to, like, turn it over
to the detectives
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the next day because she was
already dead
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by eight o'clock
in the morning.
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At least one of
the police officers
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saw the whole
thing happen.
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He was taken directly downtown
to the detective division.
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With no prior criminal record,
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Dale Williams calmly admits
to detectives that he killed
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Elizabeth because he believed
she was seeing someone else.
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By his own admission, he says
he -- he was out there ready
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to go. He knew her direction
of travel,
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how and when she went to work.
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He started at six o'clock
that morning,
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and he sat behind
an empty restaurant,
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waiting for her car to pass.
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He waits for her,
and as he sees her
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approaching in her vehicle,
literally crashes
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his vehicle into hers.
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Whitmore: She's pleading
for her life, and he looks her
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in her eyes
and merely guns her down.
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Dale Williams fires
ten shots at Elizabeth
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at point-blank range.
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A street security
camera is rolling,
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but just misses capturing
the brutal murder on tape.
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At least one of
the police officers
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saw the whole thing happen --
by the time he gets
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out of the car, approaches
with his weapon drawn,
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Dale Williams has already
dropped his weapon
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and pretty much gives himself
up to the police.
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We found no evidence
of miss Stewart cheating on
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the defendant. Um,
we looked at her phone,
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we talked to the family,
and there was no evidence of
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that happening.
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Domestic homicide is one of
the most common types of
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homicide in
the United States today,
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and about one-third, one-third,
of domestic violence victims
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will lose their life
to their male partners.
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Before Williams is
sentenced at the mahoning county
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courthouse
for the horrific murder,
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judge Maureen sweeney allows
Elizabeth's family to give
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victim impact statements.
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In the courtroom
is miss Stewart's children,
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two sons and a daughter.
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Her sons, Anthony dees,
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is 30 years old, and Jerome
Stewart was 23 years old.
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This is a man
who's been part of
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their mother's life for
the last four years,
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and for the grown children,
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seeing him in court is
excruciatingly painful.
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I'm sure it was more than
her sons could bear.
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Dale Williams
has pled guilty to firing
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ten deadly shots into
his longtime girlfriend,
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Elizabeth pledger-Stewart
during a jealous rage.
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Elizabeth's three grieving
children are in court
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for his sentencing.
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Dorsey:
And now they're sitting
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right behind the guy who
chased their mother
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and hunted her like an animal,
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shot her as she begged
for her life,
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and now it's all they can do
to contain themselves.
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As the defendant is
sitting there waiting to hear
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victim impact statements
from the sons
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and daughters of
the woman he killed,
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all of a sudden,
all hell breaks loose.
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Anthony dees,
he's in a black shirt,
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he is the first one to go
after the defendant.
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Bove: The first son
gets to the defendant,
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who's shackled and handcuffed,
and pulls him off the chair
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like a sack of potatoes
and start mopping the floor.
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The second son,
who has jumped in the fray,
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is just throwing
haymakers at him.
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He's in custody.
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His welfare, his safety is
completely dependent on you.
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So they do have
a responsibility to protect
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Dale Williams.
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What we were
thinking is holy crap.
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What's gonna happen?
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The judge ducks
out the back door,
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the other prosecutor and I kind
of ducked into the jury box,
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because there's nowhere
else for US to go,
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and we weren't sure if
it was ever gonna end.
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The deputies really couldn't
get it under control to
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the extent
that they wanted to,
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so they had to use
the taser.
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The taser is going
to shoot 50,000 volts
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of electricity
into a person's body, which is
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going to incapacitate them
for a period of time,
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but usually do not hurt them
to the point where they won't
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recover and basically gives
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the officers the opportunity to
gain control of that subject,
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which is what they did.
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For their violent outbursts,
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both the victim's sons,
brothers Anthony and Jerome,
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are arrested and charged with
obstructing official business.
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They ended up
getting five days in jail,
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90 days with
85 days suspended.
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We, as judges, cannot allow
someone to impose
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justice on their own by having
a physical altercation.
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Ultimately, Dale Williams was
sentenced to 23 years to
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life in prison for the murder
of Elizabeth pledger-Stewart.
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McBain:
Versus Jacob Larson.
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24-year-old Jacob Larson
is no stranger
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to judge John McBain
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and his Jackson county,
Michigan, courtroom.
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Jacob Larson had been
in court about four months
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before for stalking
this young woman,
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a young woman that he knew
from high school.
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Dawson: Judges take stalking
cases very seriously
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because serious harm
could be done to the victim.
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He was slapped previously
with a restraining order
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against a victim that
he's been stalking.
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Now the nature of what
a stalker is
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is that they don't stop.
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They don't respect
the authority
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a restraining order has.
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Bryant: This young man,
for the last year,
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was accused of going to
this young woman's work,
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dropping off flowers at her
house, and leaving odd messages
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on her various
social media accounts.
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He continued to harass her,
reach out to her,
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and she became incredibly
concerned for her safety.
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If an order is in place and
the person isn't following it,
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then you, the person who wants
the order, has to go back to
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court to get the court
to enforce it.
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Unfortunately, it is very
common for adult victims of
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stalking to be in the same
courtroom as their tormentors.
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Dawson: There's only one
bailiff in the courtroom.
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I wouldn't even have
the victim at the table
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and maybe not have the victim
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in the room until it was time
for the victim
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to even testify.
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But that's not the case here.
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Jacob and his victim
is sitting just
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a few feet away
from each other.
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The woman being
stalked submits evidence
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that Larson has violated
the protection order
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a whopping 22 times.
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This is a bizarre scenario
because you're in court,
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and the alleged stalker is
pointing to the alleged victim,
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saying it's her fault.
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It is not unusual
for a stalker to believe that
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he, in some way, has
a relationship with his victim.
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She tried to be calm,
cool, and collected,
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but Larson
wanted to control her,
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and he wanted
to control the situation.
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Judge McBain was not
having any of it.
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The judge does not like
the mouthing off.
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In fact, this is a judge
who's known to be no-nonsense.
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But jail time doesn't
go over well with Larson,
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and his back talk is about to
push this judge over the edge.
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Accused stalker,
Jacob Larson,
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violated a personal
protection order
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and is sitting just a few
feet away from his victim
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in court.
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He's furious when judge John
McBain gives him three days in
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jail for mouthing off.
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He has no idea what he's doing
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because the court
has tremendous power.
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Bove: The security in
the courtroom should be on alert
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that this defendant has
no regard for the judge,
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what the judge is saying --
he's leaning back in his chair.
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He has his hand in his pocket,
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which you never want someone
to do when they're up there.
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You don't want them
to take out
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an object and use it
as a weapon.
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Stand up.
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Come stand up.
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The court officer begins
to handcuff Jacob Larson,
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but Jacob Larson is not having
it, and he is not willing
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to be handcuffed.
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Good.
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Why do you think
you're sitting there, dude?
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She's been telling you
all along,
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I don't want to see you,
but this stalker has
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a whole different approach
to the problem.
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Rendelman: This young woman,
who has been harassed
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and stalked by this young man
must be
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absolutely terrified that
he could come over to her
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at any point and hurt her.
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Put your hands
behind your back.
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As he watches
the defendant struggle
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with the court officer,
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the judge rips off his robe
and comes to his rescue.
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Let me tell you,
you don't want to get into
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a battle or any type of tussle
wearing a robe.
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Tase his ass,
right now! Do it now!
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Rendelman: You cannot even
see the judge anymore,
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as he is literally down
on the ground trying to
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hold Jacob Larson
as the court officer
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attempts to handcuff him.
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They're trying to control
this guy, who has just turned
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a simple stalking, three-day
sentence into a year in jail
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for contempt.
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Luckily for Larson,
he isn't tased, after all.
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Rendelman: After this defendant
is finally handcuffed,
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finally brought under control,
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he is removed from
the courtroom
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and brought to jail.
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The judge
cools off and brings
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his sentence
back down to 93 days.
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But after serving his time,
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Jacob Larson goes right back
to stalking his victim.
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This defendant was charged
with aggravated stalking,
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which is a felony,
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and ultimately, he got five
years in jail for the crime.
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Stalkers are notorious
for being unrelenting.
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They find real pride in making
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their victims'
lives a living hell.
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Put it down! That is
enough from you, all right?
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On October 5, 2018,
the jury has
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reached a verdict in
the capital murder trial
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of 41-year-old
Daniel villegas.
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Daniel has been tried
three different times
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for double homicide
in El Paso, Texas,
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and has spent nearly
half his life in prison.
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It's always gut-wrenching,
waiting for the verdict to
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be read, but can you imagine
this being the third time
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for this man who's lived
in prison for 18 years?
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Everything is gonna
happen in seconds.
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Daniel's nightmare
began back in 1993.
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He was a good kid who'd never
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been in trouble
with the law before.
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But in a twist of fate,
a silly,
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stupid joke changed the course
of Daniel's life.
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He was accused of killing
two teenagers in
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a drive-by shooting
when he was 16 years old.
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On April 10, 1993,
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four teenage boys
are walking home
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from a house party when a car
pulls up alongside them.
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Suddenly, multiple shots are
fired from the passenger side.
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Bryant: Robert england
is shot in the head,
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and he drops to the ground.
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17-year-old
Armando lazo is hit
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in the abdomen and leg
and also dies.
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00:24:06,045 --> 00:24:09,513
Juan Medina and Jesse
Hernandez managed to escape.
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They ran away unharmed.
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The two surviving boys tell
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police they can't
identify the shooter.
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There's a lot of pressure
on police to solve this case.
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Over a week had gone by,
and they had
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00:24:21,594 --> 00:24:23,327
no leads
on this case whatsoever.
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But one night, Daniel villegas,
trying to be cool,
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jokingly tells his cousin,
David rangel,
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that he is the shooter.
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And then he goes,
you're kidding.
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And then Daniel
starts laughing.
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He goes, yeah,
I was.
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Nearly two weeks
after the murders,
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police bring in a number of
teenagers from El Paso's
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northeast side
for questioning,
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including
Daniel villegas's cousin,
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17-year-old David rangel.
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He is fingered as
the trigger man by his cousin.
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He said,
"well, he was just kidding."
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He goes,
"well what did he tell you?"
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Then he tells them the story.
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So the cops haul
Daniel villegas in.
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Remember, he's 16.
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They throw him in a chair,
interrogate him.
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No attorney.
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What was running through
my 16-year-old mind at that time
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was I was scared as.
And I didn't know who the hell
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these you guys were. You know,
all the respect to the victims,
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I didn't know who they were.
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Carrizales:
Daniel was denied his basic
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constitutional right
during his interrogation.
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Not only did he not have his
parents present, but he didn't
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have an attorney present
when he was interrogated,
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handcuffed to a chair, and
threatened to be assaulted by
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these police officers if he did
not provide a confession.
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00:25:54,353 --> 00:25:56,887
It is not uncommon,
and, in fact,
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it's used all the time, where
detectives are going to tell
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a lie, they're going to try and
trick you up a little bit to
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gain a confession,
and this is allowed.
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But officers are not allowed
to take part in any type of
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coercive techniques,
meaning threats, intimidation.
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They cannot treat
a suspect that they're
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interrogating in any kind of
inhumane way.
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Whitmore: So after hours of all
this pressure and questioning
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and interrogation and forcing
this individual to be here
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and to answer these questions,
with all of these layers of
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00:26:30,022 --> 00:26:32,856
pressure and the fear
he was facing,
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00:26:32,959 --> 00:26:35,693
villegas
actually confesses.
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The fact is that,
a few hours later,
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he recants, and he says,
"no, that's not what happened."
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It doesn't matter.
The cops have what they want.
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00:26:43,970 --> 00:26:45,369
This guy's going to trial.
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00:26:46,739 --> 00:26:48,939
I just could not conceive
in my head that
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this was reality.
456
00:26:50,343 --> 00:26:52,409
You know, I couldn't conceive
it in my head.
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00:26:52,511 --> 00:26:53,844
This is america.
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00:26:53,946 --> 00:26:56,413
Daniel's alibi?
That he was with friends
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babysitting the night of
the murders.
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00:26:58,551 --> 00:27:01,385
On December 5, 1994,
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Daniel's trial begins.
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Jaime olivas is
his defense lawyer.
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00:27:05,891 --> 00:27:07,891
And he actually put on
a decent defense.
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He raised the alibi defense,
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called many witnesses that
were able to corroborate that
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Daniel was babysitting.
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00:27:16,769 --> 00:27:18,769
But Daniel's
coerced confession was
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00:27:18,871 --> 00:27:21,271
still part of
the state's evidence.
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00:27:21,374 --> 00:27:24,008
Is he gonna go to jail for
the rest of his life?
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Daniel villegas is
just 17 years old when he goes
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on trial for the murders of
two teenage boys in 1993.
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Villegas initially confessed
to the drive-by shootings
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but later changed his story,
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00:27:42,728 --> 00:27:45,596
saying he'd been coerced
during a police interrogation.
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Even though Daniel villegas
recanted his confession
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00:27:50,002 --> 00:27:51,335
to the detectives,
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that confession was used
by prosecutors against him.
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In December of 1994,
the first trial ends in
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a hung jury, deadlocked 11 to 1
in favor of conviction.
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Spencer: One of the jurors just
did not believe that Daniel
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had committed the offense,
482
00:28:08,521 --> 00:28:11,055
and they stuck
to their conviction,
483
00:28:11,157 --> 00:28:13,624
and we had a mistrial,
so we had a second trial.
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Just two months before
the second trial is set to begin
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00:28:18,831 --> 00:28:22,599
in August 1995, villegas is
given a court-appointed
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00:28:22,702 --> 00:28:23,734
defense attorney.
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00:28:23,836 --> 00:28:27,671
There was no DNA
from Daniel villegas.
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00:28:27,773 --> 00:28:29,873
There was never
a firearm located.
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00:28:29,975 --> 00:28:32,076
There was never
any forensic evidence
490
00:28:32,178 --> 00:28:35,112
linking Daniel villegas
to this crime.
491
00:28:35,214 --> 00:28:37,014
But none of that
seems to matter
492
00:28:37,116 --> 00:28:38,682
in Daniel's case,
493
00:28:38,784 --> 00:28:40,718
there's no doubt that once
you get a confession,
494
00:28:40,820 --> 00:28:42,086
it's so powerful.
495
00:28:42,188 --> 00:28:43,854
No matter what
the circumstances are
496
00:28:43,956 --> 00:28:45,422
in getting that confession,
497
00:28:45,524 --> 00:28:48,358
it can lead to a conviction
when there's almost
498
00:28:48,461 --> 00:28:49,493
no other evidence.
499
00:28:50,930 --> 00:28:54,031
And in 1995,
Daniel villegas is convicted of
500
00:28:54,133 --> 00:28:57,134
capital murder and sentenced
to life in prison.
501
00:29:13,619 --> 00:29:16,854
Bryant: Daniel villegas
goes to prison at age 18,
502
00:29:16,956 --> 00:29:21,592
and he spends the next 18 years
of his life behind bars.
503
00:29:28,567 --> 00:29:31,368
By August 2012,
villegas has a new
504
00:29:31,470 --> 00:29:34,304
legal team, led by attorney
Joe Spencer.
505
00:29:34,406 --> 00:29:37,441
He successfully petitions
the appellate court for
506
00:29:37,543 --> 00:29:40,377
a new trial based on
ineffective counsel.
507
00:29:40,479 --> 00:29:44,448
The court of appeals did
allow the case to be presented
508
00:29:44,550 --> 00:29:47,718
back to the court so that
all the other information,
509
00:29:47,820 --> 00:29:51,488
and all the other evidence
could be presented in a way
510
00:29:51,590 --> 00:29:53,690
that was fair to the defendant.
511
00:29:55,561 --> 00:29:57,461
After spending 18 years,
512
00:29:57,563 --> 00:29:59,630
half his life behind bars,
513
00:29:59,732 --> 00:30:02,866
Daniel is released
on bond pending a third trial.
514
00:30:02,935 --> 00:30:04,568
But it's not an acquittal.
515
00:30:04,670 --> 00:30:07,137
They have to go through
the trial process again.
516
00:30:07,239 --> 00:30:10,174
This time, villegas's
attorneys move to suppress
517
00:30:10,276 --> 00:30:13,877
his 1993 confession,
and the move works.
518
00:30:13,979 --> 00:30:16,947
Judge Sam medrano rules
the confession to be
519
00:30:17,049 --> 00:30:18,549
inadmissible as evidence,
520
00:30:18,651 --> 00:30:21,318
saying it was obtained by
coercive conduct by
521
00:30:21,420 --> 00:30:22,586
police officers.
522
00:30:22,688 --> 00:30:25,222
While the police officers
were never charged
523
00:30:25,324 --> 00:30:27,124
with any improper conduct,
524
00:30:27,226 --> 00:30:31,328
Daniel gets a second chance
at life with a new trial.
525
00:30:32,932 --> 00:30:35,132
Rendelman:
He was out for four years,
526
00:30:35,234 --> 00:30:38,302
raised a family during
the time he was awaiting
527
00:30:38,404 --> 00:30:39,903
his third trial to happen.
528
00:30:40,005 --> 00:30:41,171
Every system is different.
529
00:30:41,273 --> 00:30:42,439
In this particular case,
530
00:30:42,541 --> 00:30:45,042
this case has spanned
across four years.
531
00:30:52,718 --> 00:30:54,284
Daniel's third trial begins
532
00:30:54,386 --> 00:30:58,422
on October 1, 2018,
and without the confession,
533
00:30:58,524 --> 00:31:01,225
the prosecution doesn't have
much of a case.
534
00:31:01,327 --> 00:31:03,360
State's putting on their case,
535
00:31:03,462 --> 00:31:05,662
they were not getting anybody
536
00:31:05,764 --> 00:31:07,831
that was
incriminating Daniel.
537
00:31:07,933 --> 00:31:09,600
They were not getting
any evidence in that
538
00:31:09,702 --> 00:31:11,034
I thought was hurting US.
539
00:31:11,136 --> 00:31:13,070
After the prosecution rests,
540
00:31:13,172 --> 00:31:15,305
the defense doesn't call
a single witness.
541
00:31:15,407 --> 00:31:17,841
We've got everybody
in a small room
542
00:31:17,943 --> 00:31:20,110
and said okay,
everybody knows this case.
543
00:31:20,212 --> 00:31:21,812
They didn't prove anything.
544
00:31:21,914 --> 00:31:23,614
And we made a decision
in that room
545
00:31:23,716 --> 00:31:26,650
not to put on any evidence
because we just didn't feel
546
00:31:26,752 --> 00:31:28,919
we needed to.
547
00:31:28,988 --> 00:31:32,856
So the day of verdict comes,
and in the courtroom, you can
548
00:31:32,992 --> 00:31:35,492
imagine the intensity
of the emotion,
549
00:31:35,594 --> 00:31:37,127
what the family
members are feeling,
550
00:31:37,229 --> 00:31:39,162
what he's feeling
on the inside.
551
00:31:39,265 --> 00:31:40,330
Spencer:
Daniel looks at me,
552
00:31:40,432 --> 00:31:42,366
and he starts
hyperventilating.
553
00:31:42,468 --> 00:31:44,134
He starts collapsing.
554
00:31:44,236 --> 00:31:46,637
He starts telling me,
tell my kids
555
00:31:46,739 --> 00:31:48,572
I'm sorry,
tell my kids I love them.
556
00:31:48,674 --> 00:31:49,773
I know they're gonna
convict me.
557
00:31:49,875 --> 00:31:51,275
I know they're not gonna --
I'm not gonna
558
00:31:51,377 --> 00:31:53,543
see 'em again,
and he starts panicking.
559
00:31:55,014 --> 00:31:57,814
He knows everything
he has fought for
560
00:31:57,917 --> 00:31:59,583
over the last 22 years,
561
00:31:59,685 --> 00:32:03,253
18 of them in prison,
is now coming to a head.
562
00:32:03,355 --> 00:32:06,156
Everything is gonna happen
in seconds.
563
00:32:06,258 --> 00:32:08,025
We, the jury,
find the defendant,
564
00:32:08,127 --> 00:32:10,594
Daniel villegas
not guilty of...
565
00:32:31,450 --> 00:32:34,651
Rendelman: You can hear outburst
from everybody in the courtroom,
566
00:32:34,753 --> 00:32:37,354
and Daniel villegas
is barely able to stand.
567
00:32:37,456 --> 00:32:41,491
He's so emotional, crying into
the arms of his attorney.
568
00:32:46,231 --> 00:32:48,832
Spencer:
I was very happy for Daniel.
569
00:32:48,934 --> 00:32:51,201
Tremendous sigh of
relief for Daniel,
570
00:32:51,303 --> 00:32:54,304
that we were able
to give him justice
571
00:32:54,406 --> 00:32:57,507
that he'd been -- eluded
him for a quarter of a century.
572
00:32:59,812 --> 00:33:03,013
Daniel villegas and his wife
have chosen to take
573
00:33:03,148 --> 00:33:06,683
this horrible experience in
their life and use it for
574
00:33:06,785 --> 00:33:07,985
something positive.
575
00:33:08,087 --> 00:33:10,954
There now advocates for other
individuals who've been
576
00:33:11,056 --> 00:33:12,389
wrongfully convicted,
577
00:33:12,491 --> 00:33:15,158
so kudos to both of them
for doing that.
578
00:33:15,260 --> 00:33:16,927
It takes an incredible spirit
to be
579
00:33:17,029 --> 00:33:19,062
able to rise
from something like this.
580
00:33:45,724 --> 00:33:48,325
Sometimes, courtroom
chaos is caused by people
581
00:33:48,427 --> 00:33:50,360
whose job it is
to keep things orderly.
582
00:33:50,462 --> 00:33:52,996
We're on for --
it's a motion for contempt
583
00:33:53,098 --> 00:33:54,931
by the commonwealth,
is that right?
584
00:33:55,034 --> 00:33:56,867
52-year-old Robert fleck,
585
00:33:56,969 --> 00:33:59,369
the assistant
Jefferson county prosecutor,
586
00:33:59,471 --> 00:34:03,473
is in a hearing before
judge Sandra McLaughlin.
587
00:34:03,575 --> 00:34:06,977
So we're in the louisville
courtroom with what would
588
00:34:07,079 --> 00:34:10,047
normally be considered
a pretty simple matter.
589
00:34:10,149 --> 00:34:12,182
It's a dui hearing.
590
00:34:12,284 --> 00:34:13,683
The prosecutor is there,
591
00:34:13,786 --> 00:34:17,154
the defendant is there, and his
defense attorney is there.
592
00:34:17,256 --> 00:34:20,757
That's when things
go a little bizarre.
593
00:34:20,859 --> 00:34:24,361
The goal today for
the defender, Mr. Braunbeck,
594
00:34:24,463 --> 00:34:26,096
is to get his client's
595
00:34:26,198 --> 00:34:29,833
dui, driving under
the influence, deferred.
596
00:34:29,935 --> 00:34:32,903
But the prosecutor
argues that the defendant,
597
00:34:33,005 --> 00:34:34,304
rickie McAllister,
should get
598
00:34:34,406 --> 00:34:37,774
180 days in jail
for contempt after skipping
599
00:34:37,876 --> 00:34:40,077
his court-ordered
alcohol education classes
600
00:34:40,179 --> 00:34:43,180
eight times over
the past three years.
601
00:34:43,282 --> 00:34:44,815
I know why
he has failed to comply.
602
00:34:44,917 --> 00:34:47,451
He's failed to comply because
he doesn't want to do it.
603
00:34:47,553 --> 00:34:49,586
We've had no evidence
whatsoever here today,
604
00:34:49,655 --> 00:34:51,988
so, I mean,
that's where we are.
605
00:34:52,091 --> 00:34:54,524
In the midst of that defense,
606
00:34:54,626 --> 00:34:57,861
the prosecutor feels
insulted by statements
607
00:34:57,963 --> 00:34:59,162
from the defense attorney,
608
00:34:59,264 --> 00:35:01,231
and they begin to go back
and forth.
609
00:35:01,333 --> 00:35:04,301
Now, do I have to prove
why he willfully failed
610
00:35:04,403 --> 00:35:06,436
to appear in court?
No, of course not.
611
00:35:06,538 --> 00:35:07,704
Because he didn't.
612
00:35:07,806 --> 00:35:08,939
-We don't --
-and that's why --
613
00:35:09,041 --> 00:35:10,340
I'm talking here!
614
00:35:10,442 --> 00:35:12,909
Bryant: In this case,
you've got a relatively young
615
00:35:13,011 --> 00:35:14,077
defense attorney.
616
00:35:14,213 --> 00:35:17,247
And on the other side
a more experienced prosecutor.
617
00:35:17,349 --> 00:35:19,683
So it's time to go at it.
618
00:35:19,785 --> 00:35:21,084
And if he's got
a problem with it,
619
00:35:21,186 --> 00:35:25,655
he can file a motion to rule
this as unconstitutional.
620
00:35:25,757 --> 00:35:27,224
I'm sorry if Mr. Fleck is
arguing things
621
00:35:27,326 --> 00:35:29,659
that he doesn't know --
Mr. Fleck is arguing --
622
00:35:29,761 --> 00:35:31,995
I'm arguing things
I don't know?
623
00:35:32,097 --> 00:35:34,664
I've forgotten more than you
will ever know, buddy boy.
624
00:35:34,766 --> 00:35:35,665
McLaughlin: Mr. Fleck.
625
00:35:35,767 --> 00:35:37,634
Coming up,
the childish behavior
626
00:35:37,736 --> 00:35:40,036
goes from bad to worse.
627
00:35:40,139 --> 00:35:42,339
For the record,
I think this is bull.
628
00:35:46,912 --> 00:35:49,112
And that's why --
I'm talking here!
629
00:35:49,214 --> 00:35:51,581
A veteran prosecutor
and a young attorney,
630
00:35:51,683 --> 00:35:54,818
are sparring in court
over a simple dui case.
631
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:56,820
I'm arguing things
I don't know?!
632
00:35:56,922 --> 00:35:58,088
-I've forgotten more than
-Mr. Fleck.
633
00:35:58,190 --> 00:36:00,023
You will ever know, buddy boy.
-Mr. Fleck.
634
00:36:00,092 --> 00:36:02,926
Prosecutors
and defense attorneys have
635
00:36:03,028 --> 00:36:04,794
intense competition.
636
00:36:04,897 --> 00:36:07,030
It's no different
than the NBA.
637
00:36:07,132 --> 00:36:09,199
You're either playing
offense or you're defense,
638
00:36:09,301 --> 00:36:10,934
and you're going to
want to win,
639
00:36:11,036 --> 00:36:13,370
regardless of what side
you're on,
640
00:36:13,472 --> 00:36:16,273
but you have to keep
it professional,
641
00:36:16,375 --> 00:36:18,208
and you have to keep it
under wraps just
642
00:36:18,310 --> 00:36:22,245
by the very nature
of the law you practice.
643
00:36:22,347 --> 00:36:23,446
I object to that!
644
00:36:23,549 --> 00:36:26,349
I -- I take great umbrage of
somebody coming in here
645
00:36:26,451 --> 00:36:28,552
and trying to disparage
my knowledge
646
00:36:28,654 --> 00:36:31,488
and my reputation when he is
still wet behind the ears.
647
00:36:31,590 --> 00:36:33,523
Mr. Fleck, have a seat.
-...On this planet.
648
00:36:33,625 --> 00:36:35,392
Okay, have a seat.
Thank you very much.
649
00:36:35,494 --> 00:36:37,594
All right, we're gonna
recess until one o'clock.
650
00:36:37,696 --> 00:36:38,628
We'll see you back
at one o'clock.
651
00:36:38,730 --> 00:36:40,697
And the judge, at that point,
had had it.
652
00:36:40,799 --> 00:36:42,432
She's like, okay,
we need to take a break.
653
00:36:42,534 --> 00:36:45,535
But there's a whole 'nother
wrinkle here with Mr. Fleck.
654
00:36:45,637 --> 00:36:47,437
Seems he was going
to have lunch
655
00:36:47,539 --> 00:36:50,140
with his 83-year-old mother.
656
00:36:50,242 --> 00:36:51,841
You want me to call
my mom and tell her
657
00:36:51,944 --> 00:36:53,510
I'm gonna
stand her up for lunch
658
00:36:53,612 --> 00:36:56,112
because of Mr. McAllister?
659
00:36:56,215 --> 00:36:57,814
You're gonna make me
stand up my own mother,
660
00:36:57,916 --> 00:37:01,117
my 83-year-old mother, who's
waiting at a restaurant for me
661
00:37:01,220 --> 00:37:02,352
to show up?
662
00:37:02,454 --> 00:37:03,820
Whitmore: And the judge is like,
"we need to take a break,
663
00:37:03,922 --> 00:37:05,655
who, whoa, whoa,"
and he's --
664
00:37:05,757 --> 00:37:07,691
I need to have lunch
with my mommy.
665
00:37:07,793 --> 00:37:11,595
In this case, it seemed
to get very personal for
666
00:37:11,697 --> 00:37:12,729
the prosecutor,
667
00:37:12,831 --> 00:37:16,233
and he lost total control
in this situation.
668
00:37:16,335 --> 00:37:18,835
For the record,
I think this is bull.
669
00:37:18,937 --> 00:37:21,104
We'll start when you are
back here,
670
00:37:21,206 --> 00:37:22,572
so enjoy your lunch
with your mother.
671
00:37:22,674 --> 00:37:24,808
So they break for lunch,
and they come back,
672
00:37:24,910 --> 00:37:28,245
and by this time, Mr. Fleck,
he -- he has calmed a bit,
673
00:37:28,347 --> 00:37:30,280
and he's realized that
he needs to apologize
674
00:37:30,382 --> 00:37:31,648
to the court.
675
00:37:31,750 --> 00:37:33,583
Mr. Fleck, did you want
to make a statement?
676
00:37:33,685 --> 00:37:36,286
I'd like to apologize
for my outburst.
677
00:37:36,388 --> 00:37:41,057
I think I was being needled
by counsel incessantly,
678
00:37:41,159 --> 00:37:44,027
and the very thought of me
standing up my mother --
679
00:37:44,129 --> 00:37:45,161
let me stop you right there.
680
00:37:45,264 --> 00:37:46,563
The judge steps in
again and says,
681
00:37:46,665 --> 00:37:48,932
"either say you're sorry,
or don't say you're sorry."
682
00:37:49,034 --> 00:37:50,867
I would apologize
for my behavior,
683
00:37:50,969 --> 00:37:56,706
my outburst, um, the thought
of my mother being stood up
684
00:37:56,808 --> 00:37:58,975
for lunch, I had no way
to get a hold of her.
685
00:37:59,077 --> 00:38:00,343
She does not have
a cellphone,
686
00:38:00,445 --> 00:38:03,113
deeply apologetic for
what I said and did.
687
00:38:03,215 --> 00:38:04,547
In this situation,
688
00:38:04,650 --> 00:38:06,316
the judge didn't
hold him in contempt.
689
00:38:06,418 --> 00:38:08,985
The judge didn't put him in
jail, because we can do that,
690
00:38:09,087 --> 00:38:13,690
but instead, his bosses said,
"enough is enough."
691
00:38:13,792 --> 00:38:17,727
Rendelman: The prosecutor's
office actually fires Mr. Fleck
692
00:38:17,829 --> 00:38:20,697
because of
his unprofessional conduct.
693
00:38:20,799 --> 00:38:23,700
And lo and behold,
what does Mr. Fleck become?
694
00:38:23,802 --> 00:38:26,369
He becomes a criminal
defense attorney.
695
00:38:26,471 --> 00:38:27,570
I think this is bull.
696
00:38:34,046 --> 00:38:36,012
In Chehalis, Washington,
697
00:38:36,114 --> 00:38:39,182
28-year-old kodey Howard
and 22-year-old
698
00:38:39,284 --> 00:38:41,484
Tanner Jacobson
are at a bail hearing
699
00:38:41,586 --> 00:38:43,887
in judge r. W. Buzzard's
courtroom.
700
00:38:43,989 --> 00:38:45,455
Howard is facing charges
701
00:38:45,557 --> 00:38:48,158
of burglary and trafficking
in stolen property.
702
00:38:48,260 --> 00:38:50,660
Jacobson is arrested
for reckless driving
703
00:38:50,762 --> 00:38:54,364
and operating a vehicle
with a suspended license.
704
00:38:54,466 --> 00:38:57,200
The courtroom is
really pretty quiet.
705
00:38:57,302 --> 00:38:58,735
You've got the attorneys
on each side.
706
00:38:58,837 --> 00:39:00,203
You've got the judge,
you got a clerk,
707
00:39:00,272 --> 00:39:02,572
you've got a bailiff,
and you have a few inmates.
708
00:39:02,674 --> 00:39:04,874
And you have these two
individuals that are being
709
00:39:04,976 --> 00:39:07,644
accused of misdemeanors,
not felonies,
710
00:39:07,746 --> 00:39:11,014
not murders,
but two misdemeanors.
711
00:39:11,116 --> 00:39:12,916
Also in the courtroom
712
00:39:13,018 --> 00:39:15,518
are two other inmates who have
just appeared before
713
00:39:15,620 --> 00:39:16,786
judge buzzard.
714
00:39:16,888 --> 00:39:19,522
It was my birthday, and, yeah,
it was very normal day.
715
00:39:19,624 --> 00:39:23,426
Every day at, the same time,
we see in-custody inmates
716
00:39:23,528 --> 00:39:26,229
that have been picked up
or arrested the day before.
717
00:39:26,331 --> 00:39:29,032
Bove: But all of a sudden,
one guy jumps up,
718
00:39:29,134 --> 00:39:31,968
bolts, and his buddy
sitting next to him
719
00:39:32,070 --> 00:39:34,738
says, "well, if he's gonna
go, I might as well go."
720
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,273
The first thing I think to
myself is this really can't be
721
00:39:37,376 --> 00:39:39,542
happening,
and then the second thing
722
00:39:39,644 --> 00:39:42,245
as they reach the public
doorway is I sure hope
723
00:39:42,347 --> 00:39:44,848
they don't hurt anyone as they
try and get out of here.
724
00:39:44,950 --> 00:39:48,385
Neither of these defendants
are there for serious charges.
725
00:39:48,487 --> 00:39:50,086
So one could only guess
726
00:39:50,188 --> 00:39:51,955
what is in the mind of
these two individuals.
727
00:39:52,057 --> 00:39:55,625
The judge had to do
something to stop him.
728
00:39:55,727 --> 00:39:57,694
Buzzard: I thought it was
necessary for them to be
729
00:39:57,796 --> 00:39:59,829
at least pursued to find out
where they were going.
730
00:39:59,931 --> 00:40:03,199
Dawson: So just like Clark Kent
turning into Superman,
731
00:40:03,301 --> 00:40:06,536
this judge decides to rip off
his robe and run after
732
00:40:06,638 --> 00:40:08,438
the defendants.
-Buzzard: I took my robe off
733
00:40:08,540 --> 00:40:10,306
because they are hard
to maneuver in.
734
00:40:10,409 --> 00:40:11,908
I just wanted to get them.
735
00:40:12,010 --> 00:40:15,879
You can see the two
individuals running,
736
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and as they're running,
one of them actually
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trips, um, and loses what --
it's almost like
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a cinderella moment.
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He loses one of his shoes
and then keeps on going.
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00:40:25,757 --> 00:40:28,258
Bryant: These two guys are
working their way down
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the stairwell.
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As I was running after them
down the stairs,
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all I was thinking was,
I hope they stop.
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00:40:33,465 --> 00:40:35,131
I hope they don't run
into anyone.
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00:40:35,233 --> 00:40:37,167
I hope they don't hurt
anyone going down
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the stairs or out
into the public area.
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00:40:39,905 --> 00:40:41,638
It's pretty unusual,
but I have to
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00:40:41,740 --> 00:40:44,274
give him credit
because he was pretty fast.
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Bryant: One of them
makes it outside,
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00:40:46,011 --> 00:40:48,545
and the judge makes
his last-ditch effort.
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00:40:50,182 --> 00:40:52,415
In true Superman fashion,
752
00:40:52,517 --> 00:40:56,486
the judge decided to make that
last-minute leap, as he lunged
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00:40:56,588 --> 00:41:00,757
at the defendant to make sure
he didn't make it out the door.
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00:41:00,859 --> 00:41:03,026
Buzzard: I was in arm's reach
of Mr. Howard,
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00:41:03,128 --> 00:41:06,029
reached out to kind of stop
his progress, and grabbed him in
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00:41:06,131 --> 00:41:07,931
a bear hug
and tumbled out the door.
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00:41:08,033 --> 00:41:09,666
Bryant: The second guy
does not evade
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00:41:09,768 --> 00:41:12,302
the long arm
of the law this time.
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00:41:12,404 --> 00:41:15,939
One of the funniest parts of
this story is that
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the first guy runs,
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00:41:17,375 --> 00:41:21,244
gets a couple blocks, and then
realizes he's in prison garb
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00:41:21,346 --> 00:41:23,713
with handcuffs
and has nowhere to go.
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00:41:23,815 --> 00:41:26,749
After four short blocks,
Tanner has an epiphany.
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00:41:26,852 --> 00:41:28,751
You know,
he realizes I'm an idiot.
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00:41:28,854 --> 00:41:30,119
I should not be doing this.
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00:41:30,222 --> 00:41:32,689
I am not helping myself,
and he basically
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00:41:32,791 --> 00:41:35,091
gives up and is taken
back into custody.
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00:41:35,193 --> 00:41:38,461
Here's two guys who had
misdemeanor charges,
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charges where it would be more
than likely they would have
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00:41:41,066 --> 00:41:44,601
walked out themselves from
the courtroom, and instead,
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00:41:44,703 --> 00:41:49,072
because of their absolutely
stupid, ridiculous behavior,
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00:41:49,174 --> 00:41:51,808
end up with additional
felony charges.
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00:41:53,778 --> 00:41:56,012
After the incident,
Tanner Jacobson
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00:41:56,114 --> 00:41:57,347
is sentenced to one year
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00:41:57,449 --> 00:42:00,783
and one day for a single count
of second-degree escape.
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00:42:00,886 --> 00:42:03,119
Kodey Howard's punishment
for bolting?
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00:42:03,221 --> 00:42:05,154
He gets an additional
36 months
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00:42:05,257 --> 00:42:09,025
behind bars, along with
his original charges.
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00:42:09,127 --> 00:42:10,693
The way it worked out
for judge buzzard,
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00:42:10,795 --> 00:42:11,961
he comes off as a hero.
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00:42:12,063 --> 00:42:15,465
But, you know,
it could have ended badly.
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00:42:15,567 --> 00:42:18,868
Buzzard: My colleagues
and co-employees'
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00:42:18,970 --> 00:42:22,839
reaction to my reaction of
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00:42:22,941 --> 00:42:26,509
chasing them
was from good job to
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00:42:26,611 --> 00:42:28,578
what in the world
were you thinking?
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00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,347
Now that's determination,
and that's called
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00:42:31,449 --> 00:42:34,217
keeping the chaos
out of your courtroom.
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