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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,435 --> 00:00:04,036 Chief Justice Roberts: I, Donald John Trump, 2 00:00:04,038 --> 00:00:05,237 do solemnly swear... 3 00:00:05,239 --> 00:00:08,774 Donald Trump: I, Donald John Trump, do solemnly swear... 4 00:00:08,776 --> 00:00:11,477 Roberts: That I will faithfully execute... 5 00:00:11,479 --> 00:00:14,079 Trump: That I will faithfully execute... 6 00:00:14,081 --> 00:00:15,914 Roberts: The office of president 7 00:00:15,916 --> 00:00:17,082 of the United States... 8 00:00:17,084 --> 00:00:20,152 Trump: The office of president of the United States... 9 00:00:20,154 --> 00:00:22,688 Roberts: And will, to the best of my ability... 10 00:00:22,690 --> 00:00:25,657 Trump: And will, to the best of my ability... 11 00:00:25,659 --> 00:00:27,926 Roberts: Preserve, protect, and defend... 12 00:00:27,928 --> 00:00:29,895 Trump: Preserve, protect, and defend... 13 00:00:29,897 --> 00:00:32,264 Roberts: The Constitution of the United States. 14 00:00:32,266 --> 00:00:35,667 Trump: The Constitution of the United States. 15 00:00:35,669 --> 00:00:38,470 Crowd: (chanting) Immigrants in! Donald Trump out! 16 00:00:38,472 --> 00:00:42,408 Immigrants in! Donald Trump out! 17 00:00:50,451 --> 00:00:52,918 (chanting continues) 18 00:00:53,220 --> 00:00:56,455 Always the most difficult decision of the case, 19 00:00:56,457 --> 00:00:57,489 which tie to wear. 20 00:00:57,491 --> 00:01:01,393 And yet they're both almost exactly the same. 21 00:01:01,629 --> 00:01:04,530 News Anchor 1: Breaking right now, President Donald Trump's 22 00:01:04,532 --> 00:01:07,199 executive order to ban immigration 23 00:01:07,201 --> 00:01:09,001 appears to have taken effect already. 24 00:01:09,003 --> 00:01:11,403 New Anchor 2: Homeland security officials started holding 25 00:01:11,405 --> 00:01:13,138 immigrants this morning who were arriving 26 00:01:13,140 --> 00:01:16,341 from these seven Muslim countries in the Middle East. 27 00:01:16,343 --> 00:01:18,310 The president's order bans nearly a hundred... 28 00:01:18,312 --> 00:01:21,780 Trump: I'm establishing new vetting measures 29 00:01:21,782 --> 00:01:26,585 to keep radical Islamic terrorists 30 00:01:26,587 --> 00:01:29,188 out of the United States of America. 31 00:01:29,190 --> 00:01:31,090 We don't want 'em here. 32 00:01:31,559 --> 00:01:34,093 News Anchor: All day, demonstrations have been 33 00:01:34,095 --> 00:01:36,328 growing outside at JFK airport. 34 00:01:36,330 --> 00:01:37,930 The crowds there chanting... 35 00:01:37,932 --> 00:01:39,231 Crowd: (chanting) Let them out! 36 00:01:39,233 --> 00:01:41,800 Lee Gelernt: I was at home. I'm slowly seeing 37 00:01:41,802 --> 00:01:43,669 the news coverage at the airport. 38 00:01:43,671 --> 00:01:45,871 News Anchor 1: More than 100 people detained 39 00:01:45,873 --> 00:01:47,906 or denied entry into the United States 40 00:01:47,908 --> 00:01:49,575 at airports across the country. 41 00:01:49,577 --> 00:01:52,611 Michael George: We've seen volunteer lawyers, 42 00:01:52,613 --> 00:01:54,213 and they're literally in the terminal, 43 00:01:54,215 --> 00:01:57,249 sitting on the ground on laptops trying to write arguments, 44 00:01:57,251 --> 00:02:00,319 write briefs to try and get these individuals released. 45 00:02:00,321 --> 00:02:01,887 News Anchor 2: The Trump administration 46 00:02:01,889 --> 00:02:04,857 holding firm that the president not only has the authority 47 00:02:04,859 --> 00:02:07,359 to pursue the order, but a duty. 48 00:02:07,361 --> 00:02:09,361 Gelernt: I said to my wife and kids, 49 00:02:09,363 --> 00:02:13,365 "I'm going out to court," still not really grasping 50 00:02:13,367 --> 00:02:16,502 the magnitude of what was happening. 51 00:02:17,104 --> 00:02:21,006 Crowd: (chanting) A-C-L-U, we are here we stand with you! 52 00:02:21,008 --> 00:02:24,209 A-C-L-U, we are here we stand with you! 53 00:02:24,211 --> 00:02:27,246 News Anchor: The ACLU have gone to a federal courthouse 54 00:02:27,248 --> 00:02:33,552 in Brooklyn to try to implement a stay for the Executive Order. 55 00:02:33,554 --> 00:02:36,355 Gelernt: And the judge came in and said to the lawyers 56 00:02:36,357 --> 00:02:39,091 for the government, "Can you tell me right now 57 00:02:39,093 --> 00:02:42,294 that letting these people come into the country 58 00:02:42,296 --> 00:02:44,229 will threaten our national security?" 59 00:02:44,231 --> 00:02:47,966 The government said, "Well, the president believes so." 60 00:02:47,968 --> 00:02:52,237 Someone from the audience came rushing up to me. 61 00:02:52,239 --> 00:02:54,206 And he handed me a piece of paper and said, 62 00:02:54,208 --> 00:02:58,343 "My client is about to be put on a plane in 20 minutes 63 00:02:58,345 --> 00:03:00,379 back to the Middle East. 64 00:03:00,381 --> 00:03:03,715 And she will be in serious danger." 65 00:03:05,653 --> 00:03:07,319 News Anchor: We're going to take you straight 66 00:03:07,321 --> 00:03:10,289 to the federal courthouse there in Brooklyn, New York. 67 00:03:10,291 --> 00:03:12,057 Correspondent: We have not received any word, 68 00:03:12,059 --> 00:03:14,426 they're not letting anyone else in, but the crowd here 69 00:03:14,428 --> 00:03:16,762 is sort of anxiously awaiting word from inside 70 00:03:16,764 --> 00:03:19,531 as they all sort of press their noses up to the glass 71 00:03:19,533 --> 00:03:24,169 and look inside to see when the lawyers come back out. 72 00:03:26,273 --> 00:03:29,241 Woman: Just leaving the courthouse... 73 00:03:29,243 --> 00:03:30,309 The stay was granted! 74 00:03:30,311 --> 00:03:33,845 The stay was granted! The judge was amazing, 75 00:03:33,847 --> 00:03:39,151 giving love to the ACLU! Thank you to the ACLU lawyers! 76 00:03:39,153 --> 00:03:42,120 Crowd: (cheering) 77 00:03:49,830 --> 00:03:52,364 Correspondent: The immigration lawyers are raising their fists 78 00:03:52,366 --> 00:03:55,801 in the air! They're pumping their fists! 79 00:03:55,803 --> 00:03:59,404 Crowd: (cheering) 80 00:04:00,608 --> 00:04:02,307 Anthony Romero: This is Lee Gelernt, 81 00:04:02,309 --> 00:04:04,610 deputy director of the Immigrants' Rights Project, 82 00:04:04,612 --> 00:04:07,479 who argued in the federal court just now. 83 00:04:07,481 --> 00:04:10,582 Lee, why don't you tell us what the judge granted 84 00:04:10,584 --> 00:04:11,683 and what you asked for? 85 00:04:11,685 --> 00:04:15,621 The judge, in a nutshell, saw through what the government 86 00:04:15,623 --> 00:04:18,090 was doing and gave us what we wanted, 87 00:04:18,092 --> 00:04:21,360 which was to block the Trump order. 88 00:04:21,362 --> 00:04:24,329 Everyone now who came is safe. 89 00:04:24,331 --> 00:04:28,000 The president could not override the courts. 90 00:04:28,002 --> 00:04:30,535 (cheers and applause) 91 00:04:30,537 --> 00:04:36,441 Crowd: (chanting) Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! 92 00:04:36,443 --> 00:04:38,277 Thank you! 93 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:42,948 (dramatic music playing) 94 00:05:02,703 --> 00:05:06,338 (crowd cheering) 95 00:05:21,488 --> 00:05:24,056 (crowd continues cheering) 96 00:05:25,225 --> 00:05:27,125 Man: Thank you all! 97 00:05:27,127 --> 00:05:30,662 (singer humming) 98 00:05:35,169 --> 00:05:38,603 (upbeat music playing) 99 00:05:38,605 --> 00:05:40,872 News Anchor 1: The Supreme Court today ruled that states 100 00:05:40,874 --> 00:05:44,109 may not forbid the teaching of evolution in public schools. 101 00:05:44,111 --> 00:05:47,446 News Anchor 2: The Lovings were convicted under Virginia law, 102 00:05:47,448 --> 00:05:48,847 which forbids any white person 103 00:05:48,849 --> 00:05:50,549 and colored person marrying each other. 104 00:05:50,551 --> 00:05:53,485 News Anchor 3: The Supreme Court today legalized abortion. 105 00:05:53,487 --> 00:05:56,688 News Anchor 4: The ACLU urged that the government stop trying 106 00:05:56,690 --> 00:05:57,889 to regulate pornography. 107 00:05:57,891 --> 00:05:59,624 News Anchor 5: The American Civil Liberties Union 108 00:05:59,626 --> 00:06:01,560 is maintaining the Nazis are being denied free speech. 109 00:06:01,562 --> 00:06:03,495 The American Civil Liberties Union planning 110 00:06:03,497 --> 00:06:07,199 to make same-sex marriage legal nationwide. 111 00:06:07,434 --> 00:06:08,300 So help me God. 112 00:06:08,302 --> 00:06:11,002 Roberts: Congratulations, Mr. President. 113 00:06:11,238 --> 00:06:14,539 Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete 114 00:06:14,541 --> 00:06:18,443 shutdown of Muslims entering the United States. 115 00:06:18,445 --> 00:06:20,112 We've never seen anything like this 116 00:06:20,114 --> 00:06:21,146 in our 96-year history. 117 00:06:21,148 --> 00:06:23,014 Trump: I would absolutely bring back waterboarding 118 00:06:23,016 --> 00:06:25,250 and if it's gonna be tougher than waterboarding, 119 00:06:25,252 --> 00:06:26,318 I would bring that back. 120 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:27,819 Do you believe in punishment for abortion. 121 00:06:27,821 --> 00:06:29,154 There has to be some form of punishment. 122 00:06:29,156 --> 00:06:30,255 Chris Matthews: For the woman? 123 00:06:30,257 --> 00:06:31,456 Yeah. There has to be some form. 124 00:06:31,458 --> 00:06:34,426 I want surveillance of certain mosques, okay? 125 00:06:34,428 --> 00:06:37,996 I will build a great, great wall. 126 00:06:37,998 --> 00:06:41,767 (upbeat music playing) 127 00:07:08,962 --> 00:07:12,764 (crickets chirping) 128 00:07:22,609 --> 00:07:25,444 Jane Doe: (speaking Spanish) 129 00:08:40,988 --> 00:08:42,387 Brigitte Amiri: Somewhere in this pile 130 00:08:42,389 --> 00:08:46,291 is the anonymous letter that was sent to me. 131 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:48,126 This is it. 132 00:08:48,128 --> 00:08:53,865 Uh, my name is handwritten in pencil, uh, misspelled. 133 00:08:53,867 --> 00:08:56,301 So I can read parts of the letter but I can't read 134 00:08:56,303 --> 00:09:00,405 all of it, because it has identifying information. 135 00:09:00,407 --> 00:09:03,008 It says "Today is 12/17. 136 00:09:03,010 --> 00:09:06,745 There is a girl at blank shelter in blank state. 137 00:09:06,747 --> 00:09:11,283 She wants an abortion, but O.R.R. will not allow it." 138 00:09:11,285 --> 00:09:14,953 (dramatic music playing) 139 00:09:46,353 --> 00:09:48,453 Amiri: The government can't ban people 140 00:09:48,455 --> 00:09:50,388 from accessing abortion. 141 00:09:50,657 --> 00:09:52,924 I called the Department of Justice when I found out 142 00:09:52,926 --> 00:09:54,459 this was happening, and I said, 143 00:09:54,461 --> 00:09:56,661 "You can't be serious. You cannot be physically 144 00:09:56,663 --> 00:09:58,763 obstructing someone from accessing 145 00:09:58,765 --> 00:10:00,632 their constitutional right to an abortion." 146 00:10:00,634 --> 00:10:03,702 And they said, "So sorry, that's our client's position." 147 00:10:03,704 --> 00:10:06,805 And I said, "Well, then you will not be surprised 148 00:10:06,807 --> 00:10:08,707 when I challenge it in court." 149 00:10:08,709 --> 00:10:10,742 I wanna know, like, how he was appointed, 150 00:10:10,744 --> 00:10:13,545 who contacted him, how he came to work for O.R.R. 151 00:10:13,547 --> 00:10:14,813 -Things like that. -Yeah. 152 00:10:14,815 --> 00:10:16,514 Amiri: And then it's like, who has he talked to 153 00:10:16,516 --> 00:10:17,882 about abortion? VP? President? 154 00:10:17,884 --> 00:10:20,251 Why can't I ask that? I can ask that, right? 155 00:10:20,253 --> 00:10:22,120 You can ask that. Yeah. 156 00:10:36,203 --> 00:10:37,802 Videographer: Will the court reporter 157 00:10:37,804 --> 00:10:39,004 please swear in the witness? 158 00:10:39,006 --> 00:10:40,605 Court Reporter: Do you swear to tell the truth, 159 00:10:40,607 --> 00:10:42,440 the whole truth, and nothing but the truth 160 00:10:42,442 --> 00:10:44,809 -so help you God? -I do. 161 00:10:45,746 --> 00:10:49,314 Amiri: This minor had been raped, correct? 162 00:10:49,316 --> 00:10:51,950 Uh, well she claimed to have been raped, yes. 163 00:10:51,952 --> 00:10:54,753 Amiri: Do you have any reason to disbelieve her? 164 00:10:54,755 --> 00:10:55,487 No. 165 00:10:55,489 --> 00:10:57,756 This minor had thoughts of self-harm? 166 00:10:57,758 --> 00:11:00,992 She expressed something along those lines, yes. 167 00:11:00,994 --> 00:11:04,396 Amiri: You also believe that abortion is a sin. 168 00:11:04,398 --> 00:11:05,930 What does that have to do with anything? 169 00:11:05,932 --> 00:11:08,933 Amiri: It has to do with a lot. I get to ask the questions. 170 00:11:08,935 --> 00:11:10,135 -Sure. -Amiri: Mr. Tomlinson 171 00:11:10,137 --> 00:11:11,536 can object. So my question is, 172 00:11:11,538 --> 00:11:13,004 do you believe abortion is a sin? 173 00:11:13,006 --> 00:11:14,406 -Yes -Tomlinson: I can object. 174 00:11:14,408 --> 00:11:17,308 He's testified in the past that he does not let religion 175 00:11:17,310 --> 00:11:18,343 guide his job. 176 00:11:18,345 --> 00:11:20,612 Amiri: I'm trying to understand what the policy really is here 177 00:11:20,614 --> 00:11:22,013 with respect to abortion requests. 178 00:11:22,015 --> 00:11:23,748 Okay, then let's talk about the policy. 179 00:11:23,750 --> 00:11:25,183 Amiri: Okay. I'm trying to understand 180 00:11:25,185 --> 00:11:27,052 whether there is any abortion request 181 00:11:27,054 --> 00:11:29,688 that you are ever going to approve. 182 00:11:29,690 --> 00:11:31,690 And the answer is which I've answered 183 00:11:31,692 --> 00:11:33,725 is, "I don't know." 184 00:11:35,829 --> 00:11:40,532 Trump: Now for the first time since Roe v. Wade, 185 00:11:40,534 --> 00:11:44,135 America has a pro-life president, 186 00:11:44,137 --> 00:11:46,271 a pro-life vice president, 187 00:11:46,273 --> 00:11:49,174 a pro-life House of Representatives, 188 00:11:49,176 --> 00:11:55,080 and 25 pro-life Republican state capitals. 189 00:11:55,082 --> 00:11:57,549 That is pretty good. 190 00:11:57,617 --> 00:11:59,617 That is pretty good. 191 00:11:59,619 --> 00:12:00,785 Wow! 192 00:12:00,787 --> 00:12:04,489 (dramatic music playing) 193 00:12:06,526 --> 00:12:09,227 (helicopter rotor whirring) 194 00:12:09,229 --> 00:12:12,897 (keypad clacking) 195 00:12:28,215 --> 00:12:30,949 Brock Stone: The first thing I knew about the tweet was 196 00:12:30,951 --> 00:12:34,853 I'd had a friend that texted me that morning, and she was like, 197 00:12:34,855 --> 00:12:36,554 "Well whatever you do, don't look at Twitter 198 00:12:36,556 --> 00:12:38,490 and don't look at the news." And I was like, 199 00:12:38,492 --> 00:12:40,158 "That's a weird thing to tell me." 200 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:41,226 And what am I gonna do? 201 00:12:41,228 --> 00:12:42,894 The first thing I'm gonna do is look at the news. 202 00:12:42,896 --> 00:12:44,896 News Anchor 1: The latest presidential tweetstorm 203 00:12:44,898 --> 00:12:47,098 seemed to blindside his own Pentagon, 204 00:12:47,100 --> 00:12:49,400 which promptly referred all inquiries 205 00:12:49,402 --> 00:12:50,635 back to the White House. 206 00:12:50,637 --> 00:12:52,771 News Anchor 2: The Pentagon estimates there are roughly 207 00:12:52,773 --> 00:12:57,709 2,500 transgender service members on active duty. 208 00:12:57,711 --> 00:13:00,044 Stone: It was kind of shocking. It was kind of just, like, 209 00:13:00,046 --> 00:13:03,148 a disconnect. Like, it didn't feel real at first. 210 00:13:03,150 --> 00:13:04,849 News Anchor: Look, transgenderism 211 00:13:04,851 --> 00:13:05,984 is not an actual thing. 212 00:13:05,986 --> 00:13:08,953 It's a mental dysfunction. We have two genders right now... 213 00:13:08,955 --> 00:13:11,489 Stone: I think I just kept rolling over in my head, 214 00:13:11,491 --> 00:13:16,795 you know, "What can I do? What am I going to do?" 215 00:13:17,297 --> 00:13:21,065 (dramatic music playing) 216 00:13:35,115 --> 00:13:37,048 One sec. Ab-so-lut... 217 00:13:37,050 --> 00:13:39,517 How do you spell "absolutely?" 218 00:13:39,519 --> 00:13:40,852 Ah! 219 00:13:40,987 --> 00:13:47,058 Absolutely give him my number. 220 00:13:48,962 --> 00:13:50,161 Because-- Well, I'm trying to-- 221 00:13:50,163 --> 00:13:53,097 I'm trying to sign up this one person for our lawsuit, 222 00:13:53,099 --> 00:13:57,135 but they need-- Someone asked if we could give him my number, 223 00:13:57,137 --> 00:14:01,472 and I said "Yes, absolutely, give him my number." 224 00:14:01,474 --> 00:14:03,541 You can go over there. And then, cause I'm about to get 225 00:14:03,543 --> 00:14:07,745 on my call and part of the key is that you entertain yourself 226 00:14:07,747 --> 00:14:09,214 for a very short while. 227 00:14:09,216 --> 00:14:10,215 -Okay -Okay. 228 00:14:10,217 --> 00:14:11,883 Hey, this is Chase from the ACLU. 229 00:14:11,885 --> 00:14:14,285 Hey Taylor, this is Chase from the ACLU. 230 00:14:14,287 --> 00:14:15,186 Is this Lynneth? 231 00:14:15,188 --> 00:14:16,721 Hey, is now still a good time to chat? 232 00:14:16,723 --> 00:14:18,823 Man: I was actually sitting here waiting for the phone to ring. 233 00:14:18,825 --> 00:14:20,225 Oh, perfect! We're in the process 234 00:14:20,227 --> 00:14:22,861 of trying to, to add people to our lawsuits. 235 00:14:22,863 --> 00:14:24,662 If you're open to it, it would be helpful 236 00:14:24,664 --> 00:14:26,197 if I could ask you a bunch of questions-- 237 00:14:26,199 --> 00:14:28,366 Simran, you're literally pulling my computer 238 00:14:28,368 --> 00:14:29,400 off the desk. Sorry. 239 00:14:29,402 --> 00:14:31,369 Yes, yes we are working the weekends. 240 00:14:31,371 --> 00:14:33,171 We've been actually working up a challenge 241 00:14:33,173 --> 00:14:35,506 to the military policy. We really want to include 242 00:14:35,508 --> 00:14:37,308 lots of different people who are harmed... 243 00:14:37,310 --> 00:14:38,743 -Did you break a hanger? -Oops. 244 00:14:38,745 --> 00:14:42,046 We are trying to move quickly and get a lot of information 245 00:14:42,048 --> 00:14:44,983 to challenge every aspect of this. 246 00:14:45,051 --> 00:14:46,851 This is like my best suit. 247 00:14:46,853 --> 00:14:47,919 And we wanna make sure 248 00:14:47,921 --> 00:14:50,788 that nobody is being blocked from enlisting. 249 00:14:50,790 --> 00:14:52,323 -Wee, Uno! -Sim... 250 00:14:52,325 --> 00:14:55,260 -Ah! -Alright talk to you soon. 251 00:14:55,262 --> 00:14:56,961 Okay. All right. Bye. 252 00:14:56,963 --> 00:15:00,732 (Simran laughing) 253 00:15:05,105 --> 00:15:07,538 Josh Block: This is the president's declaration 254 00:15:07,540 --> 00:15:09,540 -of open season on trans people. -Man: (over phone) Yeah. 255 00:15:09,542 --> 00:15:13,311 Block: We need the court to act and enjoin the government 256 00:15:13,313 --> 00:15:17,348 from doing anything to enforce this directive. 257 00:15:22,856 --> 00:15:26,024 I really just wanted a very simple thing. 258 00:15:26,026 --> 00:15:26,791 (laughs) 259 00:15:26,793 --> 00:15:27,959 Double-check her, 'cause... 260 00:15:27,961 --> 00:15:29,394 -Yeah, yeah. Mm-hmm. -Block: This one? 261 00:15:29,396 --> 00:15:30,828 -Nine-and-a-half years. -Block: Yeah! 262 00:15:30,830 --> 00:15:32,397 -Chase Strangio: Staff sergeant. -Block: Yeah. 263 00:15:32,399 --> 00:15:34,399 So that's, like, straight army. 264 00:15:36,136 --> 00:15:39,003 -Okay, so this person. -That is awesome. 265 00:15:39,005 --> 00:15:42,540 Strangio: He's an active duty. Lots of commendations. 266 00:15:42,542 --> 00:15:43,908 -Yeah. -Strangio: Obviously, someone 267 00:15:43,910 --> 00:15:46,311 the military has invested a lot of resources in. 268 00:15:46,313 --> 00:15:49,881 There's a risk that they'll be retaliated against 269 00:15:49,883 --> 00:15:51,149 in the military. 270 00:15:51,151 --> 00:15:53,451 I just don't want people getting involved without 271 00:15:53,453 --> 00:15:55,787 fully understanding what that would look like 272 00:15:55,789 --> 00:15:58,323 in the scope of their lives. 273 00:16:02,095 --> 00:16:04,195 ACLU, good morning. 274 00:16:04,197 --> 00:16:05,697 Is he in prison? 275 00:16:05,699 --> 00:16:09,467 Okay, so you're calling for help for your friend who's in prison. 276 00:16:09,469 --> 00:16:10,535 (indistinct chatter) 277 00:16:10,537 --> 00:16:13,037 No. But people are cross-trained to do our work... 278 00:16:13,039 --> 00:16:14,739 Strangio: Ever since Trump got elected, 279 00:16:14,741 --> 00:16:18,509 we basically slowly started taking over the building. 280 00:16:19,012 --> 00:16:22,113 We have a lot of lawyers. I would say... 281 00:16:22,115 --> 00:16:25,583 like a hundred, but I'm making that up. 282 00:16:25,585 --> 00:16:27,885 You can also sort of gauge the hierarchy 283 00:16:27,887 --> 00:16:29,754 based on the niceness of the offices. 284 00:16:29,756 --> 00:16:31,322 So here's the legal director's office. 285 00:16:31,324 --> 00:16:35,793 There'll be a very distinct contrast with my office. 286 00:16:35,862 --> 00:16:38,796 This is the famous Brigitte Amiri's office. 287 00:16:38,798 --> 00:16:43,001 You can see how hard she works by the stacks of papers. 288 00:16:44,904 --> 00:16:46,537 Human Rights is right here. 289 00:16:46,539 --> 00:16:48,439 The Brooklyn Bridge Conference Room, 290 00:16:48,441 --> 00:16:50,208 which has the best view. 291 00:16:51,044 --> 00:16:52,677 Lee is not here. 292 00:16:53,146 --> 00:16:54,846 He's probably in court. 293 00:16:54,848 --> 00:16:58,516 This is-- I am not the best ACLU tour guide. 294 00:16:58,518 --> 00:17:02,020 Copy machines, which I don't know how to work. 295 00:17:02,989 --> 00:17:04,989 Very artistic. 296 00:17:05,191 --> 00:17:08,726 This says, "the Womb Room". 297 00:17:08,728 --> 00:17:12,930 I don't really know what goes on here. 298 00:17:14,100 --> 00:17:15,066 There's Jason. 299 00:17:15,068 --> 00:17:19,537 One of the few people I can talk about sports with here. 300 00:17:19,539 --> 00:17:22,206 Strangio: And now we've reached the LGBT Project. 301 00:17:22,208 --> 00:17:23,574 -Hey look! -Block: Hey! 302 00:17:23,576 --> 00:17:24,509 I'm giving a tour. 303 00:17:24,511 --> 00:17:26,144 -Block: Yeah? -Strangio: Yeah! 304 00:17:26,146 --> 00:17:26,944 Wow 305 00:17:26,946 --> 00:17:30,782 This is Dale's. He has a very, like, oaky feeling. 306 00:17:30,784 --> 00:17:33,418 It's very Elk Moose Lodge. 307 00:17:33,420 --> 00:17:35,987 There are probably more tattoos and piercings here 308 00:17:35,989 --> 00:17:38,389 at the ACLU than there are at DOJ. 309 00:17:38,391 --> 00:17:40,658 The legal department is divided into different projects. 310 00:17:40,660 --> 00:17:43,061 So, Women's Rights, which was started 311 00:17:43,063 --> 00:17:44,262 by Ruth Bader Ginsberg. 312 00:17:44,264 --> 00:17:46,330 And then Speech Privacy and Technology 313 00:17:46,332 --> 00:17:48,132 in that corner over there. 314 00:17:48,134 --> 00:17:49,534 I think they're the ones who organize 315 00:17:49,536 --> 00:17:52,336 the Whisky Wednesdays, which I'm too old for now. 316 00:17:52,338 --> 00:17:56,007 This is the intern den. 317 00:17:56,009 --> 00:18:00,545 Very intense and ambitious. Very scary to walk in here. 318 00:18:00,547 --> 00:18:01,546 (laughter) 319 00:18:01,548 --> 00:18:02,747 Block: Chase is right here. 320 00:18:02,749 --> 00:18:07,485 I usually like, I always go to see what's happening. 321 00:18:07,487 --> 00:18:08,853 He's definitely on the phone. 322 00:18:08,855 --> 00:18:10,922 Strangio: This is an empty window office. 323 00:18:10,924 --> 00:18:14,392 Like, maybe I should get to work in this office. 324 00:18:14,394 --> 00:18:17,361 I will say, it is pretty amazing to come to work every day 325 00:18:17,363 --> 00:18:19,864 and be like, "Wow, like, my colleagues 326 00:18:19,866 --> 00:18:22,533 are really, like, doing it!" 327 00:18:22,535 --> 00:18:24,735 They're such badasses. 328 00:18:33,847 --> 00:18:36,747 (distant siren wailing) 329 00:18:38,118 --> 00:18:41,018 You'll hear testimony from four of the plaintiffs 330 00:18:41,020 --> 00:18:41,953 in this case. 331 00:18:41,955 --> 00:18:43,621 All of them are United States citizens. 332 00:18:43,623 --> 00:18:47,959 All of them are qualified to vote in the state of Kansas. 333 00:18:53,099 --> 00:18:55,600 This law is like using... 334 00:18:55,802 --> 00:18:59,904 Enforcing this law is like using a bazooka to kill a fly. 335 00:18:59,906 --> 00:19:04,208 Thousands of Kansas voters have been the collateral damage. 336 00:19:06,646 --> 00:19:09,614 Election-related litigation tends to go a little bit faster, 337 00:19:09,616 --> 00:19:11,883 because we're usually trying to get a court ruling 338 00:19:11,885 --> 00:19:13,017 before the next election. 339 00:19:13,019 --> 00:19:15,486 I like that. I like stuff that's fast-paced. 340 00:19:15,488 --> 00:19:20,525 (upbeat music playing) 341 00:19:24,297 --> 00:19:27,298 Dale Ho: This case is all about protecting the right to vote 342 00:19:27,300 --> 00:19:30,234 and disproving the lie that there are hoards 343 00:19:30,236 --> 00:19:33,838 of non-citizens infiltrating American elections. 344 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:37,208 I've been doing this particular job for four years. 345 00:19:37,210 --> 00:19:38,976 We're gonna be fighting state-to-state, 346 00:19:38,978 --> 00:19:42,580 county-to-county against these voter suppression measures. 347 00:19:42,582 --> 00:19:45,550 Michael Cloud: Mr. Ho, do you think that illegal aliens 348 00:19:45,552 --> 00:19:46,717 should be allowed to vote? 349 00:19:46,719 --> 00:19:50,821 Ho: No. And I'm not aware of any state that does so. 350 00:19:50,823 --> 00:19:52,723 It's been pretty time-consuming. 351 00:19:52,725 --> 00:19:54,725 I spend a decent amount of time on the road. 352 00:19:54,727 --> 00:19:58,496 Hey, sweetheart. Sorry that I'm not gonna be home tonight. 353 00:19:58,565 --> 00:20:00,064 (grunts) 354 00:20:00,366 --> 00:20:03,768 Kids! Goodnight! I love you both. 355 00:20:03,770 --> 00:20:06,204 Yeah. Yeah. 356 00:20:15,848 --> 00:20:16,814 Boy: Daddy! 357 00:20:16,816 --> 00:20:19,717 Daddy! Will you juggle, juggle, juggle? 358 00:20:19,719 --> 00:20:23,154 I want you to juggle! Juggle, juggle! 359 00:20:23,156 --> 00:20:24,589 Juggle! 360 00:20:25,091 --> 00:20:25,923 Juggling balls. 361 00:20:25,925 --> 00:20:28,626 Hey! That's not how you juggle. 362 00:20:28,628 --> 00:20:30,962 Girl: Three balls. You need three balls to juggle. 363 00:20:30,964 --> 00:20:32,129 Yeah. Juggling... 364 00:20:32,131 --> 00:20:34,599 Ho: Before the election, I mean, I was thinking, 365 00:20:34,601 --> 00:20:36,400 "We'll get through the election and maybe see-- 366 00:20:36,402 --> 00:20:39,470 Just poke around out there and see if there may be 367 00:20:39,472 --> 00:20:40,705 things that will allow me 368 00:20:40,707 --> 00:20:43,374 to spend a little more time with my family." 369 00:20:43,376 --> 00:20:44,775 But... 370 00:20:45,578 --> 00:20:48,913 the results of this election made that idea just, 371 00:20:48,915 --> 00:20:50,648 I just tossed that idea out the window. 372 00:20:50,650 --> 00:20:52,617 I mean, if I'm not gonna be 373 00:20:52,619 --> 00:20:56,754 a civil rights lawyer right now, in this moment... 374 00:20:57,490 --> 00:20:59,090 when, right? 375 00:20:59,092 --> 00:21:00,524 So... 376 00:21:01,794 --> 00:21:04,962 Trump: They spend billions of dollars on the census 377 00:21:04,964 --> 00:21:06,597 and you're not allowed to ask? 378 00:21:06,599 --> 00:21:09,333 You go knock on doors of houses. 379 00:21:09,335 --> 00:21:10,334 Check houses. 380 00:21:10,336 --> 00:21:12,236 You go through all this detail, and you're not allowed to ask 381 00:21:12,238 --> 00:21:15,606 whether or not somebody is a citizen? 382 00:21:15,608 --> 00:21:19,176 (dramatic music playing) 383 00:21:20,847 --> 00:21:22,680 News Anchor 1: The U.S. Department of Commerce 384 00:21:22,682 --> 00:21:24,915 announced Monday that it plans to add 385 00:21:24,917 --> 00:21:27,685 a question on citizenship status 386 00:21:27,687 --> 00:21:28,886 to the 2020 Census. 387 00:21:28,888 --> 00:21:31,188 News Anchor 2: A seemingly simple question, 388 00:21:31,190 --> 00:21:32,990 "Are you a U.S. Citizen?" 389 00:21:32,992 --> 00:21:34,458 Ho: This is one of the few things 390 00:21:34,460 --> 00:21:36,060 that's written in our Constitution 391 00:21:36,062 --> 00:21:38,062 that the federal government has to do. 392 00:21:38,064 --> 00:21:40,431 It's not just in the Constitution, 393 00:21:40,433 --> 00:21:42,633 it's the sixth fucking sentence! 394 00:21:42,635 --> 00:21:44,669 The census is supposed to count 395 00:21:44,671 --> 00:21:46,570 every single person in this country. 396 00:21:46,572 --> 00:21:48,606 Not just citizens. Every person. 397 00:21:48,608 --> 00:21:50,508 Ho: How many seats a state gets in 398 00:21:50,510 --> 00:21:51,676 the House of Representatives. 399 00:21:51,678 --> 00:21:54,045 How many votes it gets in the electoral college. 400 00:21:54,047 --> 00:21:55,212 It's all based on the census. 401 00:21:55,214 --> 00:21:57,081 News Anchor: Challengers say the question could lead 402 00:21:57,083 --> 00:21:59,550 to millions of people not responding to the census 403 00:21:59,552 --> 00:22:02,720 and that could affect how federal money is allocated 404 00:22:02,722 --> 00:22:07,792 and how many representatives each state gets in Congress. 405 00:22:11,998 --> 00:22:13,998 -Sarah: This is Sarah. -Hey Sarah. 406 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:15,599 You've got all of New York here. 407 00:22:15,601 --> 00:22:17,068 -Sarah: Okay. -Ho: We anticipate 408 00:22:17,070 --> 00:22:18,736 they're gonna file something in the Supreme Court 409 00:22:18,738 --> 00:22:20,404 and we're gonna have to oppose that. 410 00:22:20,406 --> 00:22:22,740 And I like the idea of doing a response here, 411 00:22:22,742 --> 00:22:24,475 obviously for the substantive reasons, 412 00:22:24,477 --> 00:22:26,377 but also to jam them up a little bit. 413 00:22:26,379 --> 00:22:27,845 The more we hit them with right now, 414 00:22:27,847 --> 00:22:30,748 the harder it is for them to respond and stay on course. 415 00:22:30,750 --> 00:22:31,949 Sarah: If we can get a brief... 416 00:22:31,951 --> 00:22:33,584 Ho: The government's own estimate is that 417 00:22:33,586 --> 00:22:35,786 six-and-a-half million won't respond to the census 418 00:22:35,788 --> 00:22:37,054 if you add this question. 419 00:22:37,056 --> 00:22:42,827 Six states would be at risk of losing a seat in Congress. 420 00:22:42,962 --> 00:22:46,497 It's kind of difficult to imagine higher stakes. 421 00:22:58,878 --> 00:23:02,947 Today, we're here to send a message to the world 422 00:23:02,949 --> 00:23:07,084 that we are not going to let the country be overwhelmed. 423 00:23:07,086 --> 00:23:09,520 People are not going to caravan 424 00:23:09,522 --> 00:23:12,356 or otherwise stampede our border. 425 00:23:12,358 --> 00:23:15,192 If you cross the border unlawfully 426 00:23:15,194 --> 00:23:16,627 then we will prosecute you. 427 00:23:16,629 --> 00:23:22,266 If you are smuggling a child, then we will prosecute you, 428 00:23:22,268 --> 00:23:25,903 and that child may be separated from you. 429 00:23:25,905 --> 00:23:27,838 These actions are necessary 430 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,574 and they are made even more necessary 431 00:23:30,576 --> 00:23:34,979 by this massive increase in illegal crossings... 432 00:23:34,981 --> 00:23:38,616 (dramatic music playing) 433 00:24:08,581 --> 00:24:11,882 Gelernt: I just drove down to the San Diego/Mexico border 434 00:24:11,884 --> 00:24:15,486 to meet with this mother who the government 435 00:24:15,488 --> 00:24:21,125 has separated her from her child who's seven-and-a-half. 436 00:24:21,127 --> 00:24:25,029 She escaped her country where she was gonna be killed, 437 00:24:25,031 --> 00:24:28,799 and now is seeking asylum here. 438 00:24:29,769 --> 00:24:32,970 The government took her child and sent her to Chicago. 439 00:24:32,972 --> 00:24:38,843 The child is, of course, scared out of her mind, crying. 440 00:24:38,845 --> 00:24:40,144 The little girl knows no one 441 00:24:40,146 --> 00:24:43,047 and she's just sitting there by herself. 442 00:24:43,049 --> 00:24:45,850 I've come to talk to this woman about whether 443 00:24:45,852 --> 00:24:49,086 she would like us to bring a suit. 444 00:24:54,927 --> 00:25:00,564 Ms. L: (speaking foreign language) 445 00:25:59,158 --> 00:26:04,995 Gelernt: That was a really rough meeting. 446 00:26:04,997 --> 00:26:07,865 The mother would like us to do... 447 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:12,503 what we can to get her daughter back to her. 448 00:26:12,738 --> 00:26:14,271 So... 449 00:26:14,473 --> 00:26:15,906 She's... 450 00:26:16,409 --> 00:26:19,443 She's distraught, you know? 451 00:26:19,512 --> 00:26:21,412 I don't know. 452 00:26:28,287 --> 00:26:32,323 Reporter: You'd mentioned that there might be some 453 00:26:32,325 --> 00:26:34,892 pending legal action coming? 454 00:26:34,894 --> 00:26:36,026 I just wanted to see 455 00:26:36,028 --> 00:26:37,795 if there's anything you can talk about. 456 00:26:37,797 --> 00:26:40,931 Yeah, let's talk-- Off the record? 457 00:26:40,933 --> 00:26:42,766 Reporter: Yeah. 458 00:26:44,136 --> 00:26:48,405 So we are confidentially filing a national class action 459 00:26:48,407 --> 00:26:49,840 in the next few hours. 460 00:26:49,842 --> 00:26:52,910 We think there's hundreds of people all over the country 461 00:26:52,912 --> 00:26:55,245 who this is happening to. 462 00:26:57,550 --> 00:26:58,582 Mike? It's Lee Gelernt. 463 00:26:58,584 --> 00:27:00,918 Hey, Heidi, it's Lee. Spencer, it's Lee. 464 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,252 We gotta get going on this stuff. 465 00:27:02,254 --> 00:27:03,721 You saw we got another plaintiff, right? 466 00:27:03,723 --> 00:27:05,856 -(phone ringing) -We're gonna do our reply 467 00:27:05,858 --> 00:27:07,458 -in three hours. -(phone ringing) 468 00:27:07,460 --> 00:27:11,562 Can I send you the complaint and you start playing with that? 469 00:27:11,564 --> 00:27:12,496 (phone ringing) 470 00:27:12,498 --> 00:27:14,164 You gotta make it clear to the court what's happening. 471 00:27:14,166 --> 00:27:15,799 There is a habeas position, but the motion 472 00:27:15,801 --> 00:27:17,334 to dismiss is almost fully briefed, 473 00:27:17,336 --> 00:27:18,836 and now all of a sudden they're telling us 474 00:27:18,838 --> 00:27:21,405 they may remove the person while the stay motion 475 00:27:21,407 --> 00:27:24,541 is pending, which is another 48 hours. 476 00:27:24,543 --> 00:27:26,377 (phone ringing) 477 00:27:26,379 --> 00:27:27,978 Yeah, sure. 478 00:27:28,781 --> 00:27:30,848 (phone continues ringing) 479 00:27:30,850 --> 00:27:33,217 Hold on one second, okay? 480 00:27:34,020 --> 00:27:38,022 (cellphone ringing) 481 00:27:41,661 --> 00:27:45,529 (other phone continues ringing) 482 00:27:51,137 --> 00:27:54,171 My charger doesn't work. Do you have an extra charger? 483 00:27:54,173 --> 00:27:55,472 -Can you-- You do? -Yeah. 484 00:27:55,474 --> 00:27:57,107 -Can I borrow it? -Yeah, but you have to plug it 485 00:27:57,109 --> 00:27:58,842 into your computer. I don't have the wall... 486 00:27:58,844 --> 00:28:00,144 Can you show-- How do I do that? 487 00:28:00,146 --> 00:28:02,046 It's just, you plug it into a USB outlet 488 00:28:02,048 --> 00:28:04,448 in your tower, your computer tower... 489 00:28:04,450 --> 00:28:05,883 But... 490 00:28:06,419 --> 00:28:08,352 You plug in that side to the USB part 491 00:28:08,354 --> 00:28:10,421 -and you plug in... -Down below? 492 00:28:10,423 --> 00:28:12,056 -Yeah. -Yes. 493 00:28:13,659 --> 00:28:15,192 Um... 494 00:28:17,596 --> 00:28:19,196 Um... 495 00:28:22,835 --> 00:28:27,404 (phone ringing) 496 00:28:31,811 --> 00:28:34,678 Producer: So, how many of these separation cases 497 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,081 do you think are out there? 498 00:28:37,083 --> 00:28:40,551 People on the ground in the detention centers 499 00:28:40,553 --> 00:28:42,086 are saying hundreds. 500 00:28:42,088 --> 00:28:45,222 Hundreds of parents have just lost their kids 501 00:28:45,224 --> 00:28:48,058 to being separated. 502 00:28:51,630 --> 00:28:53,564 Reporter: Why is the government doing this? 503 00:28:53,566 --> 00:28:55,299 Sarah Sanders: Because it's the law, 504 00:28:55,301 --> 00:28:56,500 and that's what the law states. 505 00:28:56,502 --> 00:28:58,769 -And the law... -There is no law that requires 506 00:28:58,771 --> 00:29:00,170 families to be separated at the border. 507 00:29:00,172 --> 00:29:01,672 This was the administration's choice to move 508 00:29:01,674 --> 00:29:03,974 from civil matters on immigration onto criminal 509 00:29:03,976 --> 00:29:05,375 and therefore to separate families. 510 00:29:05,377 --> 00:29:06,777 Brian: Don't you have any empathy 511 00:29:06,779 --> 00:29:08,212 for what these people are going through? 512 00:29:08,214 --> 00:29:09,480 -Jill... -Brian: They have less 513 00:29:09,482 --> 00:29:11,248 -than you do! -Brian! Guys! Settle down. 514 00:29:11,250 --> 00:29:12,883 -Sarah, seriously. -Sanders: I'm trying to be 515 00:29:12,885 --> 00:29:14,785 serious, but I'm not gonna have you yell out of turn. 516 00:29:14,787 --> 00:29:16,787 -Jill, please go on. -You're telling us it's a law, 517 00:29:16,789 --> 00:29:19,289 and you throw children in cages. You're a parent. 518 00:29:19,291 --> 00:29:20,691 You're a parent of young children! 519 00:29:20,693 --> 00:29:23,694 Don't you have any empathy for what they go through? 520 00:29:23,696 --> 00:29:24,595 Jill, go ahead. 521 00:29:24,597 --> 00:29:25,796 Jill: Two questions for you. 522 00:29:25,798 --> 00:29:27,631 Firstly, does the president really believe... 523 00:29:27,633 --> 00:29:30,901 (TV theme music playing) 524 00:29:32,471 --> 00:29:35,205 Amiri: So this is a Christian television station. 525 00:29:35,207 --> 00:29:37,407 We begin tonight with an exclusive interview 526 00:29:37,409 --> 00:29:39,076 with the Trump official who tried to stop 527 00:29:39,078 --> 00:29:41,678 a detained immigrant from getting an abortion. 528 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,413 I know you personally have written about 529 00:29:43,415 --> 00:29:46,216 your pro-life views and are a Catholic father of six. 530 00:29:46,218 --> 00:29:47,151 Yeah. 531 00:29:47,153 --> 00:29:48,919 Amiri: You are robbing young women of their ability 532 00:29:48,921 --> 00:29:50,921 to make decisions about their pregnancies 533 00:29:50,923 --> 00:29:52,956 and forcing them to carry their pregnancies 534 00:29:52,958 --> 00:29:55,159 to term against their will because you think 535 00:29:55,161 --> 00:29:56,493 you know what's best for them. 536 00:29:56,495 --> 00:30:00,164 There isn't anything more scary or more patriarchal. 537 00:30:00,166 --> 00:30:02,466 We need to do everything that we can to protect 538 00:30:02,468 --> 00:30:04,001 the dignity of life of human life 539 00:30:04,003 --> 00:30:06,770 from conception to natural death. 540 00:30:08,107 --> 00:30:14,111 (dramatic music playing) 541 00:30:16,148 --> 00:30:17,981 Amiri: If the court doesn't intervene quickly, 542 00:30:17,983 --> 00:30:20,384 she will be forced to carry her pregnancy 543 00:30:20,386 --> 00:30:22,519 to term against her will. 544 00:30:28,928 --> 00:30:32,963 Time is a big factor. We're racing against the clock. 545 00:30:32,965 --> 00:30:37,201 (dramatic music playing) 546 00:30:57,423 --> 00:30:59,556 Alright this sentence doesn't sound right to me. 547 00:30:59,558 --> 00:31:03,493 "Although the government has asserted that on... (mumbles) 548 00:31:03,495 --> 00:31:04,828 Start all over again. 549 00:31:04,830 --> 00:31:05,829 "That it believed." 550 00:31:05,831 --> 00:31:07,297 -Amiri: That it believed. -Yeah. 551 00:31:07,299 --> 00:31:09,199 Yep. Okay. Now I'm too tired. 552 00:31:10,269 --> 00:31:14,037 It really feels like a canary in the coalmine moment. 553 00:31:14,039 --> 00:31:16,473 If we lose this case, I don't know 554 00:31:16,475 --> 00:31:19,042 what Roe vs. Wade means. 555 00:31:38,330 --> 00:31:42,165 (dramatic music playing) 556 00:31:42,167 --> 00:31:44,101 Brett Kavanaugh: The government has argued 557 00:31:44,103 --> 00:31:46,370 we want to favor life over abortion. 558 00:31:46,372 --> 00:31:49,072 What is your response to their suggestion 559 00:31:49,074 --> 00:31:52,676 that they don't have to be complicit in the abortion? 560 00:31:52,678 --> 00:31:54,278 Amiri: Your Honor, I would say that 561 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,914 they have admitted in the context of ICE detention 562 00:31:56,916 --> 00:31:59,249 that they will and do facilitate abortion. 563 00:31:59,251 --> 00:32:02,119 Kavanaugh: Suppose she had been detained at the border, 564 00:32:02,121 --> 00:32:03,320 but not in the United States. 565 00:32:03,322 --> 00:32:05,889 She would have been sent back, presumably, to her home country 566 00:32:05,891 --> 00:32:08,358 and the government's theory of this is that 567 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:12,095 that's the same position she would be in now. 568 00:32:12,097 --> 00:32:14,331 Amiri: But that's not the position she's in now. 569 00:32:14,333 --> 00:32:15,933 Your Honor, deportation proceedings 570 00:32:15,935 --> 00:32:17,234 have not begun against her. 571 00:32:17,236 --> 00:32:19,403 Due process clause of the Fifth Amendment applies 572 00:32:19,405 --> 00:32:21,204 to all persons in the United States. 573 00:32:21,206 --> 00:32:23,307 There is no reason why her immigration status 574 00:32:23,309 --> 00:32:25,275 should diminish her constitutional right 575 00:32:25,277 --> 00:32:26,410 to access abortion. 576 00:32:26,412 --> 00:32:30,113 The government may not ban abortion for anyone. 577 00:32:31,984 --> 00:32:36,987 (dramatic music playing) 578 00:32:38,624 --> 00:32:42,893 (indistinct chatter) 579 00:32:47,266 --> 00:32:50,500 (phone ringing) 580 00:32:56,442 --> 00:32:58,442 (chuckles) 581 00:32:59,378 --> 00:33:02,879 It's good, it's good. All good stuff. 582 00:33:03,482 --> 00:33:04,481 Thanks, everybody! 583 00:33:04,483 --> 00:33:07,951 Yep, you guys are amazing. Thank you. Bye. 584 00:33:11,123 --> 00:33:13,857 I'm not sure that there's much I can say on the train. 585 00:33:13,859 --> 00:33:17,227 But, um, things are gonna work out. 586 00:33:17,229 --> 00:33:21,531 She will be able to get the care she needs tomorrow. 587 00:33:22,401 --> 00:33:23,433 Look at that headline. 588 00:33:23,435 --> 00:33:25,769 And how happy does that make you? 589 00:33:25,904 --> 00:33:28,472 Ah! So happy. 590 00:33:28,774 --> 00:33:31,842 I have to edit it, but this is the headline. Right? 591 00:33:31,844 --> 00:33:33,477 Meagan Burrows: Good headline. 592 00:33:33,479 --> 00:33:34,778 Amiri: (laughing) 593 00:33:34,780 --> 00:33:36,279 -Guess what I'm getting? -Burrows: Wine! 594 00:33:36,281 --> 00:33:40,650 Amiri: Train wine! Who wants some train wine? 595 00:33:40,652 --> 00:33:42,152 Oh, yeah. 596 00:33:42,221 --> 00:33:43,887 Cheers! Woohoo! 597 00:33:43,889 --> 00:33:45,655 Train wine. 598 00:33:51,830 --> 00:33:58,168 Jane Doe: (speaking Spanish) 599 00:34:15,387 --> 00:34:19,056 Amiri: We know there are other young women out there. 600 00:34:19,058 --> 00:34:20,924 We know the policy is still in place. 601 00:34:20,926 --> 00:34:23,627 We're asking to proceed as a class action 602 00:34:23,629 --> 00:34:25,896 so we don't have to go running into court 603 00:34:25,898 --> 00:34:28,398 for each young woman once we find them. 604 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:33,904 (dramatic music playing) 605 00:34:36,075 --> 00:34:40,010 Strangio: I actually started, um, cross-stitching. 606 00:34:40,012 --> 00:34:41,011 Block: Yeah, no I... 607 00:34:41,013 --> 00:34:42,312 Like, you know, "home sweet home" 608 00:34:42,314 --> 00:34:43,814 -on a pillow. -Block: Right. 609 00:34:43,816 --> 00:34:45,849 It's "CrossFit", is what people are saying. 610 00:34:45,851 --> 00:34:47,384 Wait, did you get, like, confused? 611 00:34:47,386 --> 00:34:49,553 -(laughs) I wish I was doing-- -Cause it doesn't, like, 612 00:34:49,555 --> 00:34:51,655 -keep you in shape. -Yeah, no I'm not-- 613 00:34:51,657 --> 00:34:52,823 I wish I was doing CrossFit, 614 00:34:52,825 --> 00:34:55,058 but instead, I'm doing needlepoint. 615 00:34:55,060 --> 00:34:57,060 (chuckles) 616 00:35:00,499 --> 00:35:01,565 Strangio: Hi, I'm Chase. 617 00:35:01,567 --> 00:35:02,866 Stone: Nice to meet you in person. 618 00:35:02,868 --> 00:35:04,267 -Good to meet you. -Block: I'm Josh. 619 00:35:04,269 --> 00:35:06,036 great to meet you in person too. 620 00:35:06,038 --> 00:35:09,606 Stone: I joined May 23rd, 2006. 621 00:35:09,608 --> 00:35:12,609 So it'll be over 12 years now. 622 00:35:13,011 --> 00:35:14,444 That was a flag that 623 00:35:14,446 --> 00:35:16,012 when I was in Afghanistan, I flew. 624 00:35:16,014 --> 00:35:18,648 Yeah, the one below, it's like my farewell plaque 625 00:35:18,650 --> 00:35:20,784 from when I was in Korea. 626 00:35:20,786 --> 00:35:21,852 These three are my dad. 627 00:35:21,854 --> 00:35:24,921 That I think was just his basic training photo. 628 00:35:24,923 --> 00:35:27,324 He was a Morse code operator. 629 00:35:27,326 --> 00:35:29,392 Block: How would you express your feelings 630 00:35:29,394 --> 00:35:32,362 about your interaction with other service members 631 00:35:32,364 --> 00:35:35,732 and whether there's ever been any problem or discomfort? 632 00:35:35,734 --> 00:35:38,668 I have not had one person be anything but supportive. 633 00:35:38,670 --> 00:35:40,971 Like, if there's anybody here that has an issue 634 00:35:40,973 --> 00:35:43,306 with me being trans, I'm not aware of it. 635 00:35:43,308 --> 00:35:46,042 The military is very much a family for me. 636 00:35:46,044 --> 00:35:47,911 That's kind of being taken away from me. 637 00:35:47,913 --> 00:35:50,514 You know, I have people tell me all the time, 638 00:35:50,516 --> 00:35:52,616 "Military service is a privilege. 639 00:35:52,618 --> 00:35:53,617 It's not a right." 640 00:35:53,619 --> 00:35:56,353 I would argue that by virtue of my performance, 641 00:35:56,355 --> 00:35:59,356 by virtue of my ability, and by virtue of the fact 642 00:35:59,358 --> 00:36:01,992 that I am qualified to be in the military 643 00:36:01,994 --> 00:36:07,130 and have been for 11 years, that I should stay. 644 00:36:07,266 --> 00:36:10,000 (train chugging) 645 00:36:10,002 --> 00:36:15,438 (dramatic music playing) 646 00:36:16,308 --> 00:36:19,376 Block: The people that have been pushing for this ban 647 00:36:19,378 --> 00:36:23,580 object to the existence of trans people. 648 00:36:23,582 --> 00:36:28,285 They wanna kick them out of jobs and out of schools. 649 00:36:28,287 --> 00:36:33,490 Basically, they wanna erase trans people from public life. 650 00:36:38,730 --> 00:36:41,798 Strangio: If your whole body and identity 651 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,936 is sort of the contested site of the conversation, 652 00:36:45,938 --> 00:36:48,705 it's really hard to then put it out there. 653 00:36:48,707 --> 00:36:50,307 It's easier for me to, like, watch Josh 654 00:36:50,309 --> 00:36:52,576 do an argument and do a great job 655 00:36:52,578 --> 00:36:54,144 because Josh knows how to do it. 656 00:36:54,146 --> 00:36:57,914 And if we get a good ruling, like, then... 657 00:36:57,916 --> 00:36:59,182 I will have been brilliant. 658 00:36:59,184 --> 00:37:02,819 And if, like, we get a bad ruling... 659 00:37:02,821 --> 00:37:06,590 Strangio: The fate of the trans community is all your fault. 660 00:37:06,592 --> 00:37:07,390 Yeah. 661 00:37:07,392 --> 00:37:08,892 Producer: And it's just gonna be you? 662 00:37:08,894 --> 00:37:11,795 Block: Uh, we're not sure yet. Um... 663 00:37:11,797 --> 00:37:13,196 Probably. 664 00:37:13,198 --> 00:37:14,931 I guess we'll see. 665 00:37:14,933 --> 00:37:18,768 It is complicated, as a cis person, 666 00:37:18,770 --> 00:37:21,071 to be, like, doing the argument. 667 00:37:21,073 --> 00:37:23,873 Like, there's so much responsibility you have 668 00:37:23,875 --> 00:37:26,243 to the people whose stories you're telling. 669 00:37:26,245 --> 00:37:30,580 You're the only trans person on the team 670 00:37:30,582 --> 00:37:33,750 except for our clients, um... 671 00:37:33,752 --> 00:37:35,919 and that's complicated. 672 00:37:35,921 --> 00:37:40,824 What do you feel about doing the argument yourself? 673 00:37:40,826 --> 00:37:42,392 Strangio: Well I mean, I just... 674 00:37:42,394 --> 00:37:44,894 I'm not the right person to do this argument, you know? 675 00:37:44,896 --> 00:37:47,797 I think it's tricky, cause you have to build up-- 676 00:37:47,799 --> 00:37:48,932 Like, this is a huge case. 677 00:37:48,934 --> 00:37:50,634 Like, I don't have enough experience. 678 00:37:50,636 --> 00:37:52,636 I mean, when I became a lawyer, there weren't that many 679 00:37:52,638 --> 00:37:54,204 trans lawyers, and so, then I had to be doing 680 00:37:54,206 --> 00:37:56,673 a lot of different types of things, and it didn't include 681 00:37:56,675 --> 00:38:00,910 just honing my litigation skills on random shit. 682 00:38:00,912 --> 00:38:02,445 'Cause there was just no time for that. 683 00:38:02,447 --> 00:38:04,214 It was like, "Go do this legislative advocacy," 684 00:38:04,216 --> 00:38:08,818 "Go learn how to be on TV," "Go do this," "Go do that." 685 00:38:10,789 --> 00:38:12,255 "Go... 686 00:38:12,491 --> 00:38:16,726 train the ACLU on what it means to be trans." 687 00:38:17,663 --> 00:38:21,898 (upbeat music playing) 688 00:38:28,774 --> 00:38:31,107 Amiri: "We all know what birth control means 689 00:38:31,109 --> 00:38:32,008 to the ACLU. 690 00:38:32,010 --> 00:38:33,843 It is the bashing of the heads of the innocent 691 00:38:33,845 --> 00:38:37,814 and the spilling of their brains on the sidewalk." 692 00:38:38,150 --> 00:38:40,717 "A liberal immigrant dumbass like you 693 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,486 can't understand that voting in the U.S. 694 00:38:43,488 --> 00:38:45,255 is done only by U.S. citizens." 695 00:38:45,257 --> 00:38:49,025 "Illegal immigrants do not have rights, jackass." 696 00:38:49,027 --> 00:38:51,928 He could probably do without eight exclamation marks. 697 00:38:51,930 --> 00:38:54,698 Probably five would have been sufficient. 698 00:38:54,700 --> 00:38:57,600 Strangio: "Hey, faggot. You're a disgusting, 699 00:38:57,602 --> 00:38:58,868 subhuman dickhead." 700 00:38:58,870 --> 00:39:00,403 "Your hanging out with a lesbian crowd 701 00:39:00,405 --> 00:39:03,773 has obliterate all shards of decency in your own life." 702 00:39:03,775 --> 00:39:05,442 "Go home, immigrant pig." 703 00:39:05,444 --> 00:39:07,977 Man: Hey, Lee, "A" stands for "American". 704 00:39:07,979 --> 00:39:12,282 Americans come first. We don't appreciate your work. 705 00:39:12,284 --> 00:39:15,285 Woman: (over phone) 706 00:39:16,621 --> 00:39:20,557 "You murdering ass." "You lesbo-loving..." 707 00:39:20,559 --> 00:39:21,591 Poop emoji. 708 00:39:21,593 --> 00:39:24,694 Man 1: (over phone) 709 00:39:24,696 --> 00:39:27,097 Man 2: I mean, obviously, you're a little gay faggot. 710 00:39:27,099 --> 00:39:29,899 I can see that by your photograph and your voice. 711 00:39:29,901 --> 00:39:33,103 You're a fucking piece of shit. 712 00:39:36,074 --> 00:39:39,876 Yeah. If you don't look at the negative stuff, 713 00:39:39,878 --> 00:39:42,812 then you're just sort of in your own bubble. 714 00:39:42,814 --> 00:39:45,548 Ho: You know, I don't wanna run from this. 715 00:39:56,695 --> 00:40:01,598 "Are you a citizen of the United States of America?" 716 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:02,499 "Oh, gee! 717 00:40:02,501 --> 00:40:06,436 I'm sorry, I just can't answer that question." 718 00:40:06,438 --> 00:40:10,006 We must have a reliable count of how many citizens, 719 00:40:10,008 --> 00:40:16,012 noncitizens, and illegal aliens are in our country. 720 00:40:16,081 --> 00:40:18,581 Reporter: Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross testified 721 00:40:18,583 --> 00:40:20,784 on the 2020 Census at a House hearing today. 722 00:40:20,786 --> 00:40:23,052 Committee members questioned him about the decision 723 00:40:23,054 --> 00:40:25,889 to add a citizenship question to the form. 724 00:40:25,891 --> 00:40:28,425 Elijah Cummings: Secretary Ross... 725 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,760 in fall of 2017, 726 00:40:30,762 --> 00:40:34,497 your staff hand-delivered a secret memo 727 00:40:34,499 --> 00:40:38,768 about the citizenship question to the Department of Justice. 728 00:40:38,770 --> 00:40:43,907 Did the secret memo describe the real reason you wanted 729 00:40:43,909 --> 00:40:46,042 to add the citizenship question? 730 00:40:46,044 --> 00:40:48,645 I don't believe there's anything in evidence 731 00:40:48,647 --> 00:40:53,116 that my staff delivered a message of that sort. 732 00:40:53,118 --> 00:40:59,589 DOJ sought census citizenship data for use 733 00:40:59,591 --> 00:41:02,425 in Voting Rights Act enforcement. 734 00:41:02,427 --> 00:41:08,598 We intend to count as many people as possible... 735 00:41:08,934 --> 00:41:12,335 (upbeat music playing) 736 00:41:12,337 --> 00:41:13,870 How you doin'? 737 00:41:17,375 --> 00:41:19,108 When the secretary says, "I want accurate 738 00:41:19,110 --> 00:41:22,912 citizenship information," and they already have it... 739 00:41:22,914 --> 00:41:25,215 but he's ignoring that accurate information 740 00:41:25,217 --> 00:41:27,951 and instead putting a question on the census, 741 00:41:27,953 --> 00:41:30,253 well, it begs the question, 742 00:41:30,255 --> 00:41:31,387 why are you doing it? 743 00:41:31,389 --> 00:41:33,490 If you really want accurate citizenship information, 744 00:41:33,492 --> 00:41:36,025 you'd go to the social security administration. 745 00:41:36,027 --> 00:41:38,361 The fact that you're not doing that 746 00:41:38,363 --> 00:41:40,430 suggests that it's a pretext. 747 00:41:40,432 --> 00:41:43,733 That you're not out to get the most accurate 748 00:41:43,735 --> 00:41:44,934 citizenship information, 749 00:41:44,936 --> 00:41:46,936 that you have some other goal in mind. 750 00:41:46,938 --> 00:41:48,905 Now, we think we know what that goal is. 751 00:41:48,907 --> 00:41:50,740 It's to scare immigrant communities, 752 00:41:50,742 --> 00:41:53,376 reduce the participation of noncitizens 753 00:41:53,378 --> 00:41:56,312 and people who have noncitizens in their families 754 00:41:56,314 --> 00:41:58,047 from participating in the census, 755 00:41:58,049 --> 00:42:00,016 and then ultimately use that information 756 00:42:00,018 --> 00:42:04,120 to cut those people out of the political process entirely. 757 00:42:06,625 --> 00:42:09,259 "Equal Justice Under Law." 758 00:42:11,763 --> 00:42:14,597 William Clay: Mr. Secretary, you lied to Congress, 759 00:42:14,599 --> 00:42:19,002 you mislead the American people, and you are complicit 760 00:42:19,004 --> 00:42:22,472 in the Trump administration's intent to suppress 761 00:42:22,474 --> 00:42:28,344 the growing political power of the nonwhite population. 762 00:42:28,346 --> 00:42:32,815 You have already done great harm to Census 2020 763 00:42:32,817 --> 00:42:36,119 and you should, in my opinion, resign. 764 00:42:36,121 --> 00:42:39,289 Is there a question in that, sir? 765 00:42:39,691 --> 00:42:43,359 I still don't see what it is that the... 766 00:42:43,361 --> 00:42:44,994 people need to be afraid of. 767 00:42:44,996 --> 00:42:46,896 You're being asked "Are you a citizen? 768 00:42:46,898 --> 00:42:47,997 Are you not a citizen?" 769 00:42:47,999 --> 00:42:50,466 Seems like a reasonable thing for the government to ask. 770 00:42:50,468 --> 00:42:53,136 (indistinct police radio chatter) 771 00:42:53,138 --> 00:42:54,404 Commentator 1: For Latinos now 772 00:42:54,406 --> 00:42:55,905 who are in mixed-status families 773 00:42:55,907 --> 00:42:57,974 there is a real fear that if they respond in any way, 774 00:42:57,976 --> 00:43:00,843 the government might come back and use this information 775 00:43:00,845 --> 00:43:02,345 against them. 776 00:43:02,347 --> 00:43:04,080 There are at least two instances 777 00:43:04,082 --> 00:43:06,416 in history where they did 778 00:43:08,253 --> 00:43:09,886 Commentator 2: During World War II, 779 00:43:09,888 --> 00:43:12,822 the federal government used census data 780 00:43:12,824 --> 00:43:17,427 to identify Japanese-American families... 781 00:43:17,562 --> 00:43:19,862 to send them to internment. 782 00:43:19,864 --> 00:43:24,067 (dramatic music playing) 783 00:43:32,477 --> 00:43:36,546 Ho: There is a little bit of reluctance sometimes 784 00:43:36,848 --> 00:43:37,914 for... 785 00:43:37,916 --> 00:43:42,118 civil rights advocates to argue to conservatives that... 786 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:46,389 the person we're suing had a discriminatory game plan 787 00:43:46,391 --> 00:43:48,791 in mind. Had a discriminatory intent. 788 00:43:48,793 --> 00:43:53,062 Conservative judges are generally a little reluctant 789 00:43:53,064 --> 00:43:56,265 to say that someone intended to discriminate. 790 00:43:56,267 --> 00:44:00,203 So the advice we're getting is, "Don't bother trying 791 00:44:00,205 --> 00:44:01,671 to prove the real reason. 792 00:44:01,673 --> 00:44:05,441 Don't bother trying to win the pretext argument 793 00:44:05,443 --> 00:44:07,810 on the merits. It's important for the case, 794 00:44:07,812 --> 00:44:11,114 for the framing of the case. But you don't need it to win. 795 00:44:11,116 --> 00:44:13,583 All you need to win is, there's more accurate 796 00:44:13,585 --> 00:44:15,284 citizenship data somewhere else. 797 00:44:15,286 --> 00:44:19,789 The secretary ignored that advice from the Census Bureau, 798 00:44:19,791 --> 00:44:21,991 and that was unlawful." 799 00:44:23,628 --> 00:44:25,628 Crowd: (cheering) 800 00:44:26,831 --> 00:44:31,801 Trump: ICE is throwing them out of our country by the thousands. 801 00:44:31,870 --> 00:44:34,070 "I am afraid for my life! 802 00:44:34,072 --> 00:44:37,974 I am afraid to go back to my country! 803 00:44:38,543 --> 00:44:41,411 I want to be an American!" 804 00:44:41,746 --> 00:44:44,013 We don't want them in our country, 805 00:44:44,015 --> 00:44:45,615 and they're not getting into our country. 806 00:44:45,617 --> 00:44:48,818 And when they have in the past, a lot of them have come in, 807 00:44:48,820 --> 00:44:51,220 we're throwing them the hell out. They're out. 808 00:44:51,222 --> 00:44:54,590 -We're getting them out. -(applause) 809 00:44:59,531 --> 00:45:02,632 Rachel Maddow: The AP has just broken some new news. 810 00:45:02,634 --> 00:45:06,335 This has just come out from the Associated Press. 811 00:45:07,939 --> 00:45:09,105 This is incredible. 812 00:45:09,107 --> 00:45:12,308 Trump Administration officials have been sending babies 813 00:45:12,310 --> 00:45:14,143 and other young children. 814 00:45:14,145 --> 00:45:17,013 Oh, hold on... 815 00:45:21,319 --> 00:45:23,786 to at least three... 816 00:45:27,092 --> 00:45:31,027 (breathing shakily) Can we put up the graphic of this? 817 00:45:31,563 --> 00:45:35,898 Three tender-age shelters in south Texas. 818 00:45:36,501 --> 00:45:39,869 (dramatic music playing) 819 00:45:42,474 --> 00:45:44,307 -Woman: Families! -Crowd: United! 820 00:45:44,309 --> 00:45:46,309 -Woman: Families! -Crowd: United! 821 00:45:46,311 --> 00:45:48,911 -Woman: Families! -Crowd: United! 822 00:45:48,913 --> 00:45:50,546 (crowd chanting) 823 00:45:50,548 --> 00:45:53,249 Crowd: Free our children now! 824 00:45:53,251 --> 00:45:55,284 Crowd: Free our children now! 825 00:45:55,286 --> 00:45:59,055 (indistinct chatter) 826 00:45:59,057 --> 00:46:02,024 (crowd chanting) 827 00:46:02,527 --> 00:46:05,094 News Anchor: Nearly 2,000 children have been separated 828 00:46:05,096 --> 00:46:07,430 from their families between April and May. 829 00:46:07,432 --> 00:46:10,500 Immigrants, Latinos and all of us, 830 00:46:10,502 --> 00:46:11,501 are targets. 831 00:46:11,503 --> 00:46:13,102 Gelernt: The people who are being separated 832 00:46:13,104 --> 00:46:14,737 from their kids pass the government's 833 00:46:14,739 --> 00:46:16,906 own asylum-screening interviews. 834 00:46:16,908 --> 00:46:18,474 They're bonafide asylum seekers. 835 00:46:18,476 --> 00:46:21,043 They're still having their children ripped away. 836 00:46:21,045 --> 00:46:22,645 Like it or not, these aren't our kids. 837 00:46:22,647 --> 00:46:25,848 It's not like he's doing this to the people of Idaho 838 00:46:25,850 --> 00:46:26,816 or, uh, Texas. 839 00:46:26,818 --> 00:46:28,584 These are people from another country. 840 00:46:28,586 --> 00:46:32,388 News Anchor: (speaking Spanish) 841 00:46:34,692 --> 00:46:37,226 Gelernt: The medical evidence is overwhelming 842 00:46:37,228 --> 00:46:40,930 that we may be doing permanent trauma to these kids. 843 00:46:40,932 --> 00:46:44,000 (dramatic music playing) 844 00:47:04,389 --> 00:47:06,923 Gelernt: In your hometown, in Guatemala 845 00:47:06,925 --> 00:47:10,259 were there other families that had their children 846 00:47:10,261 --> 00:47:11,761 taken away? 847 00:47:11,830 --> 00:47:16,699 Raul: (speaking Spanish) 848 00:47:30,114 --> 00:47:33,783 (dramatic music playing) 849 00:47:38,523 --> 00:47:42,458 Raul: (speaking Spanish) 850 00:48:47,392 --> 00:48:49,625 Gelernt: The government has a fair amount 851 00:48:49,627 --> 00:48:51,327 of technical arguments. 852 00:48:51,329 --> 00:48:54,764 My job is gonna be to make sure the horror 853 00:48:54,766 --> 00:48:59,602 of what's going on really stays front and center. 854 00:49:01,572 --> 00:49:04,507 For me, you know, just thinking about my own kids, 855 00:49:04,509 --> 00:49:08,945 it's just... It's inconceivable... 856 00:49:10,048 --> 00:49:11,314 that this could be happening, 857 00:49:11,316 --> 00:49:16,585 and that I don't-- You know, I'd be going out of my mind. 858 00:49:17,288 --> 00:49:21,023 (dramatic music playing) 859 00:49:27,498 --> 00:49:30,700 David Cole: There's a kind of cyclical nature to the work 860 00:49:30,702 --> 00:49:33,502 of a civil liberties organization. 861 00:49:40,611 --> 00:49:42,345 It's always one step forward, 862 00:49:42,347 --> 00:49:44,313 two steps back. 863 00:49:45,016 --> 00:49:47,683 You're not gonna win every fight. 864 00:49:48,386 --> 00:49:50,853 Romero: Our first same-sex marriage case, 865 00:49:50,855 --> 00:49:54,023 two guys walked into a local office in Minnesota 866 00:49:54,025 --> 00:49:55,191 and said "We wanna get married. 867 00:49:55,193 --> 00:49:59,395 For 44 years, we stayed on that. 868 00:50:00,465 --> 00:50:04,800 We defend civil liberties for all. 869 00:50:05,269 --> 00:50:08,871 And not everybody at the ACLU agrees. 870 00:50:11,676 --> 00:50:15,211 Not everybody in the United States agrees. 871 00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:20,383 The promise of a right is that anyone can, 872 00:50:20,385 --> 00:50:22,518 uh, exercise the right. 873 00:50:22,687 --> 00:50:26,188 It's not a right for the people you agree with, 874 00:50:26,190 --> 00:50:28,691 it's a right for everybody. 875 00:50:30,161 --> 00:50:32,828 (indistinct chatter) 876 00:50:34,766 --> 00:50:36,932 Man: You're gonna get your spacing once 877 00:50:36,934 --> 00:50:38,000 when you get up there. 878 00:50:38,002 --> 00:50:40,870 Get your torches lit and get in your columns. 879 00:50:40,872 --> 00:50:43,239 Uh, white nationalists are getting ready to march 880 00:50:43,241 --> 00:50:44,540 in Charlottesville, Virginia 881 00:50:44,542 --> 00:50:47,910 Crowd: Jews! Will not! Replace us! 882 00:50:47,912 --> 00:50:50,913 Jews! Will not! Replace us! 883 00:50:50,915 --> 00:50:54,383 -Jews! Will not! Replace us! -Man: Get in the oven! 884 00:50:54,385 --> 00:50:58,187 Crowd: Jews! Will not! Replace us! 885 00:50:58,189 --> 00:51:00,423 Jews! Will not! Replace us! 886 00:51:00,425 --> 00:51:03,459 If the ACLU was not successful today 887 00:51:03,461 --> 00:51:06,295 and the Charlottesville City Government was allowed 888 00:51:06,297 --> 00:51:08,864 to deny us our constitutional First Amendment rights, 889 00:51:08,866 --> 00:51:12,635 we might be in a different situation than we are today. 890 00:51:12,637 --> 00:51:15,538 Journalist: It's a melding of white nationalists, Klan, 891 00:51:15,540 --> 00:51:18,607 fascists all mixing together and uniting. 892 00:51:18,609 --> 00:51:20,676 Uh-oh. It looks like a small group 893 00:51:20,678 --> 00:51:22,611 of counter-demonstrators has surrounded 894 00:51:22,613 --> 00:51:24,246 the Robert E. Lee Memorial. 895 00:51:24,248 --> 00:51:27,950 Crowd: No Nazis! No KKK! No fascist USA! 896 00:51:27,952 --> 00:51:29,885 Man: Move, bitch! 897 00:51:30,588 --> 00:51:32,488 Crowd: White lives matter! 898 00:51:32,490 --> 00:51:33,622 White lives matter! 899 00:51:33,624 --> 00:51:37,126 White lives matter! White lives matter! 900 00:51:42,166 --> 00:51:43,099 Man: Hail Trump! 901 00:51:43,101 --> 00:51:46,068 Duke: We are determined to take our country back. 902 00:51:46,070 --> 00:51:49,972 We're gonna fulfill the promises of Donald Trump 903 00:51:50,241 --> 00:51:52,875 (indistinct yelling) 904 00:52:01,052 --> 00:52:03,085 Man: Oh, my God! Oh, my God. 905 00:52:03,087 --> 00:52:05,788 Oh my God. Holy... 906 00:52:06,257 --> 00:52:08,424 Go, go, go. 907 00:52:11,596 --> 00:52:13,395 Woman: Holy shit! 908 00:52:13,397 --> 00:52:17,800 Holy shit! Holy... 909 00:52:24,509 --> 00:52:26,909 I think there were all kinds of discussions, 910 00:52:26,911 --> 00:52:29,845 both formal and informal that went on 911 00:52:29,847 --> 00:52:33,249 within the organization after this happened. 912 00:52:33,251 --> 00:52:36,385 There were people that were badly, badly hurt, 913 00:52:36,387 --> 00:52:38,954 and there was somebody who was killed. 914 00:52:38,956 --> 00:52:42,458 And our name was attached to the event. 915 00:52:42,460 --> 00:52:46,962 The ACLU was not responsible for Heather Heyer's death. 916 00:52:46,964 --> 00:52:49,532 But we were not a random organization 917 00:52:49,534 --> 00:52:52,935 just out there watching what happened. 918 00:52:52,937 --> 00:52:55,004 We have a policy of defending those 919 00:52:55,006 --> 00:52:57,873 who, with whom we disagree, including white supremacists, 920 00:52:57,875 --> 00:53:02,077 including the alt-right, and we will continue to do so. 921 00:53:02,847 --> 00:53:06,515 (dramatic music playing) 922 00:53:10,321 --> 00:53:13,222 Jeffery Robinson: The calculus isn't just as simple as, 923 00:53:13,224 --> 00:53:16,659 "Oh this is a First Amendment issue." 924 00:53:19,430 --> 00:53:22,198 This ain't Skokie, Illinois. 925 00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:27,336 This isn't a handful of neo-Nazis 926 00:53:27,338 --> 00:53:30,039 who don't have weapons... 927 00:53:30,241 --> 00:53:31,674 and who don't have a president 928 00:53:31,676 --> 00:53:36,512 in the White House spewing openly racist stuff. 929 00:53:36,514 --> 00:53:41,217 Trump: You had people, very fine people, on both sides. 930 00:53:41,219 --> 00:53:42,952 You had a lot of people in that group 931 00:53:42,954 --> 00:53:45,387 that were there to innocently protest 932 00:53:45,389 --> 00:53:46,488 and very legally protest-- 933 00:53:46,490 --> 00:53:48,757 because, I don't know if you know, 934 00:53:48,759 --> 00:53:49,758 they had a permit. 935 00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:51,527 The other group didn't have a permit. 936 00:53:51,529 --> 00:53:52,695 Well I would say, you know, 937 00:53:52,697 --> 00:53:54,396 the fact that President Trump is in office 938 00:53:54,398 --> 00:53:58,033 and that we have someone who is a racist in power 939 00:53:58,035 --> 00:54:00,936 only underscores why you would not want to give 940 00:54:00,938 --> 00:54:06,175 government officials the power to silence those whose views 941 00:54:06,177 --> 00:54:07,243 they disagree with. 942 00:54:07,245 --> 00:54:09,245 President Trump is not gonna silence 943 00:54:09,247 --> 00:54:10,312 the white supremacists. 944 00:54:10,314 --> 00:54:13,015 Who's he gonna silence if you give him that power? 945 00:54:13,017 --> 00:54:15,618 I disagree with the decision. 946 00:54:15,620 --> 00:54:18,988 That doesn't mean I don't respect the decision. 947 00:54:18,990 --> 00:54:21,190 I just disagree with it. 948 00:54:21,826 --> 00:54:24,760 News Anchor: A horrific scene in Charlottesville, Virginia. 949 00:54:24,762 --> 00:54:28,664 A white nationalist rally that descended into deadly 950 00:54:28,666 --> 00:54:30,032 violence and chaos. 951 00:54:30,034 --> 00:54:31,300 The images just coming in. 952 00:54:31,302 --> 00:54:34,570 A car plowing into a crowd of demonstrators protesting 953 00:54:34,572 --> 00:54:36,238 against those white nationalists. 954 00:54:36,240 --> 00:54:41,443 A 32-year-old woman killed. A number of severe injuries, 955 00:54:41,445 --> 00:54:42,544 many life-threatening. 956 00:54:42,546 --> 00:54:44,546 A driver has been taken into custody. 957 00:54:44,548 --> 00:54:46,882 On the streets of Charlottesville today, 958 00:54:46,884 --> 00:54:48,350 the hate boiling over. 959 00:54:48,352 --> 00:54:51,320 White supremacists and counter-protestors 960 00:54:51,322 --> 00:54:53,122 fighting with fists and clubs. 961 00:54:53,124 --> 00:54:54,757 Confederate flags on... 962 00:54:54,759 --> 00:54:57,826 (dramatic music playing) 963 00:55:13,077 --> 00:55:16,111 Amiri: People say "Why don't you go work at a law firm 964 00:55:16,113 --> 00:55:19,481 and don't have this level of stress riding 965 00:55:19,483 --> 00:55:22,351 on your shoulders?" 966 00:55:24,055 --> 00:55:27,323 It takes its toll on your personal relationships 967 00:55:27,325 --> 00:55:29,491 and on your family. 968 00:55:29,493 --> 00:55:30,859 (laughs) 969 00:55:30,861 --> 00:55:32,995 Did you wear your cape all day? 970 00:55:33,564 --> 00:55:36,765 News Anchor: We begin with a decision that will impact 971 00:55:36,767 --> 00:55:38,767 the nation for decades. 972 00:55:38,769 --> 00:55:41,337 Justice Anthony Kennedy announced Wednesday 973 00:55:41,339 --> 00:55:43,572 he will retire after three decades 974 00:55:43,574 --> 00:55:45,240 on the Supreme Court. 975 00:55:45,242 --> 00:55:46,342 The 81 year old... 976 00:55:46,344 --> 00:55:49,278 Amiri: I got a New York Times alert on my phone. 977 00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:52,681 And my daughter heard me gasp. 978 00:55:52,683 --> 00:55:55,384 And said "Mommy! What's wrong? What's wrong?" 979 00:55:55,386 --> 00:56:00,189 And I said, "Justice Kennedy announced his retirement." 980 00:56:00,191 --> 00:56:03,125 And she said, "Well, what does that mean?" 981 00:56:03,127 --> 00:56:07,062 And I said, "Mommy's job just got a lot harder." 982 00:56:07,064 --> 00:56:11,266 His decision to retire from the court is game-changing 983 00:56:11,268 --> 00:56:14,603 on critical cases involving civil liberties, 984 00:56:14,605 --> 00:56:19,341 LGBT rights, the death penalty, affirmative action. 985 00:56:19,343 --> 00:56:22,077 Man: Do you think that Kennedy's retirement 986 00:56:22,079 --> 00:56:24,179 puts Roe v. Wade in question? 987 00:56:24,181 --> 00:56:26,849 It absolutely calls it into question. 988 00:56:26,851 --> 00:56:28,817 You have four justices on the Court 989 00:56:28,819 --> 00:56:32,621 who are very hostile to abortion rights. 990 00:56:32,623 --> 00:56:34,790 Any of the debate around the nominee 991 00:56:34,792 --> 00:56:38,227 has everything to do with whom is nominated. 992 00:56:38,229 --> 00:56:41,630 And Judge Kavanaugh is on the shortlist for 993 00:56:41,632 --> 00:56:42,765 Trump's appointments. 994 00:56:42,767 --> 00:56:45,968 I argued in front of him on the emergency appeal 995 00:56:45,970 --> 00:56:47,035 for Jane Doe. 996 00:56:47,037 --> 00:56:49,171 He punted and said, "I'll allow the government 997 00:56:49,173 --> 00:56:51,373 more time with the case." 998 00:56:51,742 --> 00:56:53,442 Richard Blumenthal: Under Texas law, 999 00:56:53,444 --> 00:56:56,478 she was eligible for an abortion. 1000 00:56:56,480 --> 00:57:03,185 The pregnancy was four weeks further when you upheld... 1001 00:57:03,254 --> 00:57:06,955 the Trump administration in blocking her efforts 1002 00:57:06,957 --> 00:57:09,358 to terminate her pregnancy. 1003 00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,760 The decision of that panel was overruled. 1004 00:57:11,762 --> 00:57:14,196 Sullivan: Has Kavanaugh never ruled 1005 00:57:14,198 --> 00:57:16,532 -on any other abortion? -Only Jane Doe. 1006 00:57:16,534 --> 00:57:18,734 Sullivan: Only Jane Doe, that was the only one ever? 1007 00:57:18,736 --> 00:57:20,569 Only abortion case. He said something like, 1008 00:57:20,571 --> 00:57:22,237 "Roe v. Wade is precedent 1009 00:57:22,239 --> 00:57:23,839 and I would be bound by precedent." 1010 00:57:23,841 --> 00:57:26,408 Doesn't apply when he's in the Supreme Court. 1011 00:57:26,410 --> 00:57:27,876 Once he gets to the high court-- 1012 00:57:27,878 --> 00:57:29,244 Then he can create new precedent. 1013 00:57:29,246 --> 00:57:32,147 Amiri: Exactly! He gets to make the precedent. 1014 00:57:32,149 --> 00:57:34,149 I wanna talk about a list. 1015 00:57:34,151 --> 00:57:37,486 Uh, it's the list that Donald Trump circulated 1016 00:57:37,488 --> 00:57:41,957 of his potential Supreme Court nominees. 1017 00:57:41,959 --> 00:57:44,860 His litmus test for that list... 1018 00:57:44,862 --> 00:57:47,863 was that a justice that he'd nominate 1019 00:57:47,865 --> 00:57:53,335 would have to automatically overturn Roe v. Wade, correct? 1020 00:57:53,704 --> 00:57:55,237 (clears throat) I'm not gonna comment 1021 00:57:55,239 --> 00:57:57,339 on what he said. Whatever he had said publicly-- 1022 00:57:57,341 --> 00:57:59,308 -Well he said it -Yeah. 1023 00:57:59,310 --> 00:58:04,079 (dramatic music playing) 1024 00:58:04,281 --> 00:58:07,716 Amiri: Earlier this week, we got multiple anonymous tips 1025 00:58:07,718 --> 00:58:10,185 that there were two more Jane Does. 1026 00:58:10,187 --> 00:58:13,288 -Wow. -Woman: It just-- It never ends. 1027 00:58:13,290 --> 00:58:14,223 No. It doesn't. 1028 00:58:14,225 --> 00:58:16,959 It's shocking that the federal government 1029 00:58:16,961 --> 00:58:18,760 continues to do this despite the fact 1030 00:58:18,762 --> 00:58:21,196 that we had a clear victory for Jane Doe. 1031 00:58:21,198 --> 00:58:23,966 All right, so you have the Word version and the PDF version. 1032 00:58:23,968 --> 00:58:25,634 -Yeah. -Amiri: Do you wanna open it 1033 00:58:25,636 --> 00:58:26,869 and we'll scroll through it. 1034 00:58:26,871 --> 00:58:29,371 Late last night, we filed our motion to proceed 1035 00:58:29,373 --> 00:58:32,307 as a class action on behalf of anyone 1036 00:58:32,309 --> 00:58:37,112 who is pregnant in O.R.R. custody. 1037 00:58:38,482 --> 00:58:42,351 We are scrambling as quickly as we can. 1038 00:58:43,754 --> 00:58:47,055 I've always believed that the Trump administration 1039 00:58:47,057 --> 00:58:52,895 would try to do to everyone what they did to Jane Doe. 1040 00:59:02,273 --> 00:59:05,440 Noah Strangio: Were those actual screen grabs of tweets? 1041 00:59:05,442 --> 00:59:07,309 Yeah we're putting the screen grabs-- 1042 00:59:07,311 --> 00:59:08,477 This is the new way to litigate. 1043 00:59:08,479 --> 00:59:10,712 So do you fix the typos or just leave them as-is? 1044 00:59:10,714 --> 00:59:13,282 No-- Yeah, we just leave the typos. 1045 00:59:13,284 --> 00:59:14,816 You're dialed-in right now. 1046 00:59:14,818 --> 00:59:15,817 No, I'm not. I'm just-- 1047 00:59:15,819 --> 00:59:17,686 I just have to send one thing. Um... 1048 00:59:17,688 --> 00:59:23,692 Because the court has to assign it to a division in the morning 1049 00:59:23,694 --> 00:59:25,494 -and... -I also feel like me perusing... 1050 00:59:25,496 --> 00:59:27,195 -Yeah. -...what you're working on 1051 00:59:27,197 --> 00:59:28,330 and acting like I understand it. 1052 00:59:28,332 --> 00:59:30,132 And also, you shouldn't look at it. 1053 00:59:30,134 --> 00:59:31,433 -Okay. -Even though Dad 1054 00:59:31,435 --> 00:59:32,434 already tried to. 1055 00:59:32,436 --> 00:59:34,937 I actually had a moment where I was like, 1056 00:59:34,939 --> 00:59:38,373 "Is dad gonna try to take these and do something? 1057 00:59:38,375 --> 00:59:42,511 -Like, send them to Brietbart?" -Noah: ACLU strikes again! 1058 00:59:42,513 --> 00:59:43,879 (laughter) 1059 00:59:43,881 --> 00:59:46,081 When I served, my units were super diverse. 1060 00:59:46,083 --> 00:59:48,016 We had people who were not American citizens 1061 00:59:48,018 --> 00:59:50,118 who specifically joined to be a part of the country. 1062 00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:52,721 -Do you want water? -Noah: Yeah, I'll take it. 1063 00:59:52,723 --> 00:59:57,259 It does represent what I believe much of what's best of America. 1064 00:59:57,261 --> 00:59:59,361 Chase and I don't always agree politically, 1065 00:59:59,363 --> 01:00:02,664 and all of that aside, a broad-brush ban 1066 01:00:02,666 --> 01:00:04,800 on a certain segment of the population 1067 01:00:04,802 --> 01:00:06,635 not being allowed to serve their country, 1068 01:00:06,637 --> 01:00:09,571 which to me is so antithetical to everything the military 1069 01:00:09,573 --> 01:00:12,107 is supposed to represent. 1070 01:00:12,109 --> 01:00:15,911 (indistinct chatter) 1071 01:00:27,758 --> 01:00:29,424 Open Word. 1072 01:00:33,364 --> 01:00:34,963 Open Word! 1073 01:00:35,566 --> 01:00:37,332 Start listening. 1074 01:00:37,501 --> 01:00:40,669 President Trump has issued a formal memorandum 1075 01:00:40,671 --> 01:00:45,374 with three binding directives that explicitly overturn 1076 01:00:45,376 --> 01:00:49,311 pre-existing military policy. Period. 1077 01:00:50,247 --> 01:00:52,614 In all three cases, the president didn't wait 1078 01:00:52,616 --> 01:00:54,416 for some further study to be completed. 1079 01:00:54,418 --> 01:00:57,819 He changed the policy first and then ordered 1080 01:00:57,821 --> 01:01:01,289 additional study after the fact. Period. 1081 01:01:01,291 --> 01:01:03,258 New paragraph. 1082 01:01:05,429 --> 01:01:06,828 No. 1083 01:01:13,704 --> 01:01:15,704 Stop listening. 1084 01:01:15,773 --> 01:01:19,675 (indistinct chatter) 1085 01:01:21,879 --> 01:01:24,112 Producer: Can you explain what a moot is? 1086 01:01:24,114 --> 01:01:27,783 Ho: A moot is a practice oral argument session. 1087 01:01:27,785 --> 01:01:30,686 Colleagues and sometimes friends from outside the organization, 1088 01:01:30,688 --> 01:01:33,955 co-counsel, play the role of judges, and just pepper 1089 01:01:33,957 --> 01:01:36,725 that person with questions. 1090 01:01:37,094 --> 01:01:39,995 Man: There's no moot pump-up music? 1091 01:01:39,997 --> 01:01:41,630 No, not for moots. 1092 01:01:41,632 --> 01:01:44,800 For the actual argument itself, I think. 1093 01:01:44,802 --> 01:01:50,605 Although I have been playing it on repeat in my head, um, 1094 01:01:50,607 --> 01:01:53,341 Tom Petty's "I Won't Back Down". 1095 01:01:55,012 --> 01:01:55,977 Shall we? 1096 01:01:55,979 --> 01:01:57,746 (upbeat music playing) 1097 01:01:57,748 --> 01:02:01,016 Amiri: Kendall was supposed to find a podium. 1098 01:02:19,236 --> 01:02:21,236 We put the brief in three days ago, 1099 01:02:21,238 --> 01:02:24,039 so, just... (chuckles) Uh... 1100 01:02:25,242 --> 01:02:26,608 I'll do my best. 1101 01:02:26,610 --> 01:02:28,977 Woman: Okay, counselor, what relief 1102 01:02:28,979 --> 01:02:30,078 are you asking for? 1103 01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:31,680 Your Honor, we are asking that the children 1104 01:02:31,682 --> 01:02:35,784 who have been separated already be reunited with their parents. 1105 01:02:35,786 --> 01:02:39,187 Ho: The courts have held that an agency must fully 1106 01:02:39,189 --> 01:02:42,858 and accurately set forth the methods 1107 01:02:42,860 --> 01:02:44,960 by which it has chosen to act. 1108 01:02:44,962 --> 01:02:47,028 The president said we need to ban this 1109 01:02:47,030 --> 01:02:49,064 because of the tremendous cost. 1110 01:02:49,066 --> 01:02:50,699 The amount of money the military pays 1111 01:02:50,701 --> 01:02:53,835 to treat erectile dysfunction dwarfs the amount of money 1112 01:02:53,837 --> 01:02:56,004 it pays to treat gender dysphoria. 1113 01:02:56,006 --> 01:02:58,006 The government has taken the position that 1114 01:02:58,008 --> 01:03:00,342 only sponsorship or voluntary departure 1115 01:03:00,344 --> 01:03:02,377 are the mechanisms for accessing abortion. 1116 01:03:02,379 --> 01:03:06,348 But those, uh, mechanisms are completely outside 1117 01:03:06,350 --> 01:03:07,616 of the minors' control. 1118 01:03:07,618 --> 01:03:09,584 One thing I think that bears, 1119 01:03:09,586 --> 01:03:15,123 uh, mentioning, that's not in, um, our, uh... 1120 01:03:15,392 --> 01:03:17,292 co-plaintiff's brief... 1121 01:03:17,294 --> 01:03:20,929 That's not how I wanna put this. Um, wha... 1122 01:03:21,398 --> 01:03:22,864 I'm having some issues today. 1123 01:03:22,866 --> 01:03:24,065 Man: The government says that all 1124 01:03:24,067 --> 01:03:26,234 of its detention choices are discretionary 1125 01:03:26,236 --> 01:03:28,170 and that therefore, I can't review it. 1126 01:03:28,172 --> 01:03:30,739 Right, Your Honor, but that's wrong, Your Honor. 1127 01:03:30,741 --> 01:03:33,975 Due process always constrains discretion. 1128 01:03:33,977 --> 01:03:36,244 Ho: Six states face a substantial risk of losing 1129 01:03:36,246 --> 01:03:40,582 a seat in Congress. California, New York, Texas, 1130 01:03:40,584 --> 01:03:42,284 Florida, Arizona, and Illinois. 1131 01:03:42,286 --> 01:03:45,120 Woman: We've got somebody who identifies as male 1132 01:03:45,122 --> 01:03:46,454 and has female genitalia. 1133 01:03:46,456 --> 01:03:49,724 Why does the military have to deal with all that? 1134 01:03:49,726 --> 01:03:53,929 Gelernt: We have to make him feel like he cannot sign off 1135 01:03:53,931 --> 01:03:57,899 on these little kids sitting all by themselves. 1136 01:03:57,901 --> 01:04:01,236 He has to have a mental picture of these kids. 1137 01:04:01,238 --> 01:04:02,771 Man: Do you think that you have a way 1138 01:04:02,773 --> 01:04:06,575 to making a pretext argument that's about discrimination? 1139 01:04:06,577 --> 01:04:10,812 (upbeat music playing) 1140 01:04:15,018 --> 01:04:17,519 The United States Supreme Court has made a decision 1141 01:04:17,521 --> 01:04:20,021 that they will hear President Trump's 1142 01:04:20,023 --> 01:04:21,690 -travel ban case. -News Anchor 1: Tonight, 1143 01:04:21,692 --> 01:04:25,260 the President's original travel ban's long and legal limbo 1144 01:04:25,262 --> 01:04:28,463 is catching a break because of the new version 1145 01:04:28,465 --> 01:04:29,397 just unveiled. 1146 01:04:29,399 --> 01:04:30,932 News Anchor 2: The Trump administration 1147 01:04:30,934 --> 01:04:32,901 is replacing its controversial travel ban with, quote, 1148 01:04:32,903 --> 01:04:34,269 "tailored travel restrictions". 1149 01:04:34,271 --> 01:04:36,838 News Anchor 3: The latest version removes Sudan 1150 01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:40,642 and adds Chad, Venezuela, and North Korea. 1151 01:04:40,644 --> 01:04:43,678 Remember this, I wasn't thrilled. 1152 01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:46,581 But the lawyers all said, "Oh, let's tailor it." 1153 01:04:46,583 --> 01:04:50,685 This is a watered-down version of the first one. 1154 01:04:50,687 --> 01:04:52,921 This is a watered-down version. 1155 01:04:52,923 --> 01:04:55,824 And let me tell you something, I think we ought to go back 1156 01:04:55,826 --> 01:04:57,292 to the first one and go all the way, 1157 01:04:57,294 --> 01:05:00,028 which is what I wanted to do in the first place. 1158 01:05:00,030 --> 01:05:01,730 Crowd: (cheering) 1159 01:05:01,732 --> 01:05:06,034 (dramatic music playing) 1160 01:05:07,337 --> 01:05:09,070 Gelernt: Just one thing after another. 1161 01:05:09,072 --> 01:05:11,740 I mean, right tomorrow, we have a big hearing 1162 01:05:11,742 --> 01:05:13,008 on family separation. 1163 01:05:13,010 --> 01:05:17,545 We have two briefs due... (sniffs) Monday at 3:00 pm 1164 01:05:17,547 --> 01:05:21,483 in the Supreme Court in the Muslim ban litigation. 1165 01:05:21,485 --> 01:05:24,586 The government has asked the Supreme Court 1166 01:05:24,588 --> 01:05:28,556 to let it go into effect immediately. 1167 01:05:29,259 --> 01:05:33,528 It's another Saturday here at the ACLU. 1168 01:05:33,530 --> 01:05:36,064 Producer: It's your son's birthday too, right? 1169 01:05:36,066 --> 01:05:39,067 Gelernt: It is my son's birthday. 1170 01:05:40,971 --> 01:05:44,973 (dramatic music playing) 1171 01:05:44,975 --> 01:05:47,909 Gelernt: Just looking at the city... 1172 01:05:48,045 --> 01:05:51,846 through sort of blurry eyes, late at night. 1173 01:05:51,848 --> 01:05:54,883 I just-- I never get tired of it. 1174 01:05:55,485 --> 01:06:00,889 We could hear literally any time from, I think, tomorrow night 1175 01:06:00,891 --> 01:06:03,658 to the end of June of whether the Supreme Court 1176 01:06:03,660 --> 01:06:08,630 is gonna allow the ban to go into effect. 1177 01:06:10,834 --> 01:06:13,201 Producer: Anything goin' down? 1178 01:06:13,870 --> 01:06:15,437 No decision. 1179 01:06:17,474 --> 01:06:20,342 Woman: Here you are. 1180 01:06:27,417 --> 01:06:31,019 Technician: If you could talk to us through the mic. 1181 01:06:32,089 --> 01:06:34,956 We'll cue you through this earpiece... 1182 01:06:34,958 --> 01:06:38,226 and you'll be able to hear the show. 1183 01:06:40,497 --> 01:06:44,132 So Lee, you can go ahead and have a seat. Um... 1184 01:06:44,134 --> 01:06:45,133 Gelernt: Am I on? 1185 01:06:45,135 --> 01:06:46,568 No, we're waiting for the travel ban. 1186 01:06:46,570 --> 01:06:48,069 Producer: You're gonna be standing by. 1187 01:06:48,071 --> 01:06:50,171 -Gelernt: This one? -Producer: Yeah. This one. 1188 01:06:50,173 --> 01:06:52,474 Could my chair be closer? 1189 01:06:55,445 --> 01:06:56,745 Tell me when. 1190 01:06:56,747 --> 01:06:58,880 Good. Thanks. 1191 01:06:59,249 --> 01:07:01,683 This fell out also. 1192 01:07:03,553 --> 01:07:06,254 -You don't hear anything? -Nope. 1193 01:07:06,390 --> 01:07:07,589 Producer: Do you hear it now? 1194 01:07:07,591 --> 01:07:09,324 Reporter: The Attorney General saying... 1195 01:07:09,326 --> 01:07:10,325 Gelernt: Yeah, now. 1196 01:07:10,327 --> 01:07:11,760 Producer: Is it a good level or...? 1197 01:07:11,762 --> 01:07:13,294 -I need it a little louder. -Yeah, sure. 1198 01:07:13,296 --> 01:07:14,863 Reporter: The bottom line, you still have 1199 01:07:14,865 --> 01:07:16,898 more than 2,000 kids who haven't been reunited 1200 01:07:16,900 --> 01:07:18,767 -with their families... -Technician: Lee, 1201 01:07:18,769 --> 01:07:20,001 you're on in five minutes. 1202 01:07:20,003 --> 01:07:22,137 ...top of the show, which is our first look, 1203 01:07:22,139 --> 01:07:23,371 now, inside one of these 1204 01:07:23,373 --> 01:07:25,140 detention facilities holding unaccompanied kids. 1205 01:07:25,142 --> 01:07:26,741 -This one is in New York. -(clears throat) 1206 01:07:26,743 --> 01:07:28,843 News Anchor: Apparently a worker inside one of these facilities 1207 01:07:28,845 --> 01:07:31,179 in New York handed over some of this video... 1208 01:07:31,181 --> 01:07:33,381 Technician: Four minutes, Lee. 1209 01:07:34,251 --> 01:07:35,550 We have breaking news now. 1210 01:07:35,552 --> 01:07:37,218 The Supreme Court has now come down 1211 01:07:37,220 --> 01:07:39,821 on its ruling today regarding one of the most 1212 01:07:39,823 --> 01:07:41,289 anticipated cases of the term. 1213 01:07:41,291 --> 01:07:42,690 We're talking about Trump v. Hawaii, 1214 01:07:42,692 --> 01:07:45,894 also known as the president's travel ban case. 1215 01:07:45,896 --> 01:07:50,098 What happened, Maya? It came down. 1216 01:07:50,100 --> 01:07:51,066 Maya: It did? 1217 01:07:51,068 --> 01:07:52,801 The decision says that President Trump wins. 1218 01:07:52,803 --> 01:07:55,837 The Supreme Court has upheld the president's travel ban. 1219 01:07:55,839 --> 01:07:58,807 This is the third version of the attempt to restrict 1220 01:07:58,809 --> 01:08:01,242 travel from mostly Muslim countries 1221 01:08:01,244 --> 01:08:03,111 after the first two were struck down. 1222 01:08:03,113 --> 01:08:04,379 Technician: Three minutes. 1223 01:08:04,381 --> 01:08:06,948 I can't go on right away. I need to look at the opinion. 1224 01:08:06,950 --> 01:08:09,717 Can you give me five more minutes? 1225 01:08:09,719 --> 01:08:10,952 Hey, I need Omar really quickly. 1226 01:08:10,954 --> 01:08:15,123 What's his cell phone number? What's his cell phone number? 1227 01:08:15,525 --> 01:08:16,724 Pen! 1228 01:08:16,726 --> 01:08:18,760 I'm about to go on live on MSNBC 1229 01:08:18,762 --> 01:08:20,728 'cause I was here for family separation. 1230 01:08:20,730 --> 01:08:25,366 It's basically just a straight-out loss, right? 1231 01:08:25,368 --> 01:08:28,736 (dramatic music playing) 1232 01:08:30,507 --> 01:08:32,607 Reporter: ...justice prior announced his dissent 1233 01:08:32,609 --> 01:08:35,143 in that case, too. So, he is dissenting... 1234 01:08:35,145 --> 01:08:36,578 Though the government remains... 1235 01:08:36,580 --> 01:08:37,779 Technician: Sixty seconds. 1236 01:08:37,781 --> 01:08:40,048 Hey, Omar, I gotta go on in like two minutes. 1237 01:08:40,050 --> 01:08:42,383 I'm just gonna denounce it, but I just wanna say 1238 01:08:42,385 --> 01:08:44,252 we're gonna evaluate the opinion to see... 1239 01:08:44,254 --> 01:08:46,421 Woman: Lee, we're ready for you now. 1240 01:08:46,423 --> 01:08:48,389 I'll be 30 seconds. Okay, cool. 1241 01:08:48,391 --> 01:08:50,158 Thanks, Omar. Ready now. 1242 01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:52,393 I wanna bring in, I believe we have Lee Gelernt 1243 01:08:52,395 --> 01:08:54,429 with the ACLU. Lee, if you're with us, 1244 01:08:54,431 --> 01:08:55,497 what is your reaction? 1245 01:08:55,499 --> 01:08:58,633 It's obviously very bad. We're very disappointed. 1246 01:08:58,635 --> 01:09:00,368 We believe that it was no question 1247 01:09:00,370 --> 01:09:04,105 that this was a Muslim ban, and so we really regret 1248 01:09:04,107 --> 01:09:06,574 that this came out this way. (clears throat) 1249 01:09:06,576 --> 01:09:08,042 News Anchor: I wanna let you know 1250 01:09:08,044 --> 01:09:09,644 we are hearing now for the first time 1251 01:09:09,646 --> 01:09:11,279 from President Trump and, yes, it is coming 1252 01:09:11,281 --> 01:09:13,414 from his Twitter account in all-caps, writing, 1253 01:09:13,416 --> 01:09:17,018 "Supreme Court upholds Trump travel ban. Wow!" 1254 01:09:17,020 --> 01:09:19,053 Exclamation point. The president obviously 1255 01:09:19,055 --> 01:09:22,290 very pleased with the ruling now coming in. 1256 01:09:22,292 --> 01:09:27,128 (dramatic music playing) 1257 01:09:32,068 --> 01:09:35,937 (applause) 1258 01:09:48,685 --> 01:09:50,385 Mr. President... 1259 01:09:50,387 --> 01:09:53,922 thank you for the great honor of appointing me 1260 01:09:53,924 --> 01:09:57,592 to serve as a justice of the Supreme Court. 1261 01:09:57,594 --> 01:10:01,296 I've seen, first-hand, your deep appreciation 1262 01:10:01,298 --> 01:10:04,966 for the vital role of the American judiciary. 1263 01:10:04,968 --> 01:10:08,369 Mr. President, thank you for everything. 1264 01:10:08,371 --> 01:10:11,539 (applause) 1265 01:10:21,818 --> 01:10:22,684 (exhales) 1266 01:10:22,686 --> 01:10:26,588 Hopefully, I don't fuck up my first sentence. 1267 01:10:26,590 --> 01:10:28,890 Mr. Chief Justice, and may it please the court, 1268 01:10:28,892 --> 01:10:32,327 the secretary's decision rested on a single assertion 1269 01:10:32,329 --> 01:10:36,431 that it was-- Fuck. (laughs) 1270 01:10:37,767 --> 01:10:39,901 Mr. Chief Justice, and may it please the court, 1271 01:10:39,903 --> 01:10:44,305 the secretary's decision rested on a single assertion, 1272 01:10:44,307 --> 01:10:48,142 that-- Fuck! (laughs) 1273 01:10:48,144 --> 01:10:52,480 Don't do this tomorrow. (sighs) 1274 01:10:53,750 --> 01:10:55,950 Mr. Chief Justice, and may it please the court... 1275 01:10:55,952 --> 01:10:58,219 Mr. Chief Justice, and may it please the court... 1276 01:10:58,221 --> 01:11:00,521 Mr. Chief Justice, and may it please the court, 1277 01:11:00,523 --> 01:11:03,725 the secretary's decision rested on a single assertion, 1278 01:11:03,727 --> 01:11:07,595 that it would provide more accurate citizenship data 1279 01:11:07,597 --> 01:11:08,896 to the Department of Justice. 1280 01:11:08,898 --> 01:11:12,500 But the administrative record revealed precisely the opposite, 1281 01:11:12,502 --> 01:11:15,903 that it would result in less accurate data 1282 01:11:15,905 --> 01:11:17,772 for the Department of Justice. 1283 01:11:17,774 --> 01:11:19,540 And the secretary's explanation 1284 01:11:19,542 --> 01:11:21,943 for his decision ran counter to the evidence, 1285 01:11:21,945 --> 01:11:24,112 and was thus arbitrary and capricious... 1286 01:11:24,114 --> 01:11:25,346 ...arbitrary and capricious... 1287 01:11:25,348 --> 01:11:27,782 ...arbitrary and capricious in three respects. 1288 01:11:27,784 --> 01:11:30,485 I'm gonna try to work my way through my points 1289 01:11:30,487 --> 01:11:32,954 and periodically interrupt myself 1290 01:11:32,956 --> 01:11:34,022 with a random question. 1291 01:11:34,024 --> 01:11:37,425 I'm gonna try to give my answer and then pivot back 1292 01:11:37,427 --> 01:11:39,761 to my main points. 1293 01:11:39,763 --> 01:11:42,263 It'll be worse for Voting Rights Act 1294 01:11:42,265 --> 01:11:44,632 enforcement purposes. 1295 01:11:45,235 --> 01:11:46,801 No, that's not the case. 1296 01:11:46,803 --> 01:11:50,104 Yes, that's right, but imputation 1297 01:11:50,106 --> 01:11:51,606 would be more accurate. 1298 01:11:51,608 --> 01:11:54,042 Well the standard is the ordinary arbitrary 1299 01:11:54,044 --> 01:11:58,146 and capricious standard under, um, Section 706. 1300 01:11:58,148 --> 01:11:59,614 Producer: Have you argued in front 1301 01:11:59,616 --> 01:12:02,517 -of the Supreme Court before? -No. 1302 01:12:02,919 --> 01:12:05,753 Woman: Did you expect to be doing it? 1303 01:12:05,755 --> 01:12:07,288 No. 1304 01:12:07,824 --> 01:12:10,792 Producer: Do you think you're gonna win? 1305 01:12:11,861 --> 01:12:13,695 I don't know. 1306 01:12:14,698 --> 01:12:17,198 All right. (sighs) 1307 01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:20,001 It's gotta be muscle memory now. 1308 01:12:24,708 --> 01:12:26,874 I'm gonna do one more. 1309 01:12:28,311 --> 01:12:31,612 (dramatic music playing) 1310 01:12:41,958 --> 01:12:44,892 I actually went swimming this morning. 1311 01:12:44,894 --> 01:12:49,330 I figured I might as well try and relax. 1312 01:12:50,867 --> 01:12:52,533 Producer: Did it work? 1313 01:12:52,535 --> 01:12:54,102 Um... 1314 01:12:54,504 --> 01:12:56,571 Not really. (laughs) 1315 01:12:56,573 --> 01:12:59,340 I haven't been this nervous in a while for a case. 1316 01:12:59,342 --> 01:13:02,677 I just feel like I-- One of those-- 1317 01:13:02,679 --> 01:13:05,780 these cases I just cannot lose. 1318 01:13:05,782 --> 01:13:09,283 I-- I mean, I could lose it, I'm just saying I... 1319 01:13:09,285 --> 01:13:13,454 I really feel a lot of pressure to win. 1320 01:13:13,456 --> 01:13:17,625 I just-- It's so horrendous, what's happening. 1321 01:13:17,627 --> 01:13:22,163 Just reading these stories over again this morning 1322 01:13:22,165 --> 01:13:23,297 and last night. 1323 01:13:23,299 --> 01:13:27,402 These little kids are just being terrorized. 1324 01:13:45,355 --> 01:13:48,156 Block: Here today because President Trump 1325 01:13:48,158 --> 01:13:50,124 has issued a formal memo, 1326 01:13:50,126 --> 01:13:53,694 three directives explicitly overturning 1327 01:13:53,696 --> 01:13:56,664 current military policy... 1328 01:13:58,034 --> 01:13:59,534 which... 1329 01:13:59,536 --> 01:14:00,735 Is it "which" or "that"? 1330 01:14:00,737 --> 01:14:04,272 Current military policy, which allows... 1331 01:14:05,608 --> 01:14:07,909 (chuckles) 1332 01:14:09,112 --> 01:14:13,247 (dramatic music playing) 1333 01:14:22,792 --> 01:14:23,891 Woman: Okay again. 1334 01:14:23,893 --> 01:14:28,162 Protesters: (chanting indistinctly) 1335 01:14:31,034 --> 01:14:35,770 (dramatic music playing) 1336 01:15:23,887 --> 01:15:26,387 Ho: Mr. Chief Justice, and may it please the court, 1337 01:15:26,389 --> 01:15:30,191 the secretary's decision rested primarily on one assertion, 1338 01:15:30,193 --> 01:15:33,728 that it would improve the accuracy of citizenship data 1339 01:15:33,730 --> 01:15:35,530 provided to the Department of Justice. 1340 01:15:35,532 --> 01:15:38,032 But the administration record revealed 1341 01:15:38,034 --> 01:15:39,166 precisely the opposite. 1342 01:15:39,168 --> 01:15:41,869 The secretary's explanation for his decision 1343 01:15:41,871 --> 01:15:44,305 misstated the evidence in the record 1344 01:15:44,307 --> 01:15:46,741 in three critical respects. 1345 01:15:46,809 --> 01:15:50,511 Amiri: This is a blanket ban on abortion for anyone 1346 01:15:50,513 --> 01:15:52,580 while they're in government custody. 1347 01:15:52,582 --> 01:15:56,417 The class must protect the ability of all pregnant minors 1348 01:15:56,419 --> 01:15:59,320 to make their own decisions free from government 1349 01:15:59,322 --> 01:16:01,289 obstruction and interference. 1350 01:16:01,291 --> 01:16:04,392 Block: If there's a transgender person whose gender dysphoria 1351 01:16:04,394 --> 01:16:06,427 is actually limiting their ability to serve, 1352 01:16:06,429 --> 01:16:09,163 they can be kicked out just like any other person 1353 01:16:09,165 --> 01:16:11,566 whose medical condition is limiting their ability. 1354 01:16:11,568 --> 01:16:14,802 What the president has done is just irrational 1355 01:16:14,804 --> 01:16:16,504 under any standard. 1356 01:16:16,506 --> 01:16:17,705 Gelernt: They tell the parents 1357 01:16:17,707 --> 01:16:19,674 "We're just taking your child for a bath." 1358 01:16:19,676 --> 01:16:22,243 Then the parent never sees the child again. 1359 01:16:22,245 --> 01:16:24,612 And I realize that I am almost pleading, Your Honor, 1360 01:16:24,614 --> 01:16:27,515 but at this point, we believe that it is necessary for you 1361 01:16:27,517 --> 01:16:31,886 to issue an injunction as early as tonight. 1362 01:16:33,089 --> 01:16:35,122 Neil Gorsuch: There could be multiple reasons 1363 01:16:35,124 --> 01:16:38,359 why individuals don't complete the form. 1364 01:16:38,361 --> 01:16:41,228 Roberts: Do you own your house? Do you own a radio? 1365 01:16:41,230 --> 01:16:43,431 I mean, the questions go quite beyond 1366 01:16:43,433 --> 01:16:44,665 how many people there are. 1367 01:16:44,667 --> 01:16:46,334 Samuel Alito: If the secretary is told, 1368 01:16:46,336 --> 01:16:48,603 "Trust us, it's gonna be better," 1369 01:16:48,605 --> 01:16:49,904 is it arbitrary and capricious? 1370 01:16:49,906 --> 01:16:52,506 Ho: Justice Alito, respectfully, I think the Census Bureau said 1371 01:16:52,508 --> 01:16:54,241 a little bit more than, "Trust us." 1372 01:16:54,243 --> 01:16:57,545 What the Census Bureau said was, "We can develop a highly 1373 01:16:57,547 --> 01:17:00,014 accurate model for this that's going to be better 1374 01:17:00,016 --> 01:17:01,849 than getting the question wrong 1375 01:17:01,851 --> 01:17:03,017 one third of the time." 1376 01:17:03,019 --> 01:17:04,418 Kavanaugh: The question is, 1377 01:17:04,420 --> 01:17:08,322 it's more important to get accurate citizenship 1378 01:17:08,324 --> 01:17:10,992 information even at the expense, 1379 01:17:10,994 --> 01:17:12,460 potentially, of a slight 1380 01:17:12,462 --> 01:17:15,229 decrease in response rates. 1381 01:17:15,231 --> 01:17:19,867 (dramatic music playing) 1382 01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:55,703 (indistinct radio chatter) 1383 01:18:10,353 --> 01:18:12,753 (train door dings) 1384 01:18:18,828 --> 01:18:21,262 Gelernt: We're gonna have to wait till my phone charges 1385 01:18:21,264 --> 01:18:23,664 for ten minutes and then go somewhere else. 1386 01:18:23,666 --> 01:18:24,732 Producer: Yeah. 1387 01:18:24,734 --> 01:18:27,601 (indistinct chatter) 1388 01:18:27,603 --> 01:18:30,571 Gelernt: Do you have outlets in here? 1389 01:18:30,940 --> 01:18:35,810 I can't believe I'm going 20 minutes without having a phone. 1390 01:18:37,213 --> 01:18:39,613 I can't even hear. Is it...? 1391 01:18:39,615 --> 01:18:43,417 Is it still not charging? It should be charging! 1392 01:18:43,419 --> 01:18:45,319 How do I do this? 1393 01:18:45,321 --> 01:18:48,155 -Stacy? -Man: Guys would you help me, 1394 01:18:48,157 --> 01:18:49,356 85 cents? I'm homeless. 1395 01:18:49,358 --> 01:18:52,493 Gelernt: My phone has run out. You've gotta give Inga 1396 01:18:52,495 --> 01:18:56,330 this alternative number, okay? Tell her to call me 1397 01:18:56,332 --> 01:18:57,598 at 347... 1398 01:18:57,600 --> 01:19:00,735 'Cause now I can't even make calls. 1399 01:19:02,004 --> 01:19:05,039 The judge just issued a major ruling in the... 1400 01:19:05,041 --> 01:19:07,808 family separation case, but it came very late 1401 01:19:07,810 --> 01:19:11,412 and now everyone's scrambling to read it. I had to read it 1402 01:19:11,414 --> 01:19:14,014 really quickly. And it looks great. 1403 01:19:14,016 --> 01:19:16,617 All the hard parts. He rejected the government's 1404 01:19:16,619 --> 01:19:19,120 main position that these families have no 1405 01:19:19,122 --> 01:19:20,654 constitutional right, and he did it 1406 01:19:20,656 --> 01:19:22,490 in the strongest possible language, 1407 01:19:22,492 --> 01:19:25,960 calling the family separation policy "brutal". 1408 01:19:26,529 --> 01:19:30,231 I just-- Now, I just need my phone to work. 1409 01:19:30,333 --> 01:19:32,600 I've just re-read it, and it is really 1410 01:19:32,602 --> 01:19:35,035 an enormous ruling, because the big issue 1411 01:19:35,037 --> 01:19:37,738 between the parties was, "Do these families 1412 01:19:37,740 --> 01:19:40,808 have a constitutional right to remain together?" 1413 01:19:40,810 --> 01:19:43,978 And what he said is, "They do," and this is the first 1414 01:19:43,980 --> 01:19:48,516 federal judge now to look at it and say, "It's brutal 1415 01:19:48,518 --> 01:19:51,886 and clearly violates the Constitution." 1416 01:19:51,888 --> 01:19:55,923 (dramatic music playing) 1417 01:20:04,300 --> 01:20:09,136 (crying, speaking Spanish) 1418 01:20:14,410 --> 01:20:17,278 (crying) 1419 01:20:18,281 --> 01:20:19,847 (crying) 1420 01:20:40,303 --> 01:20:43,637 (indistinct chatter) 1421 01:20:43,639 --> 01:20:47,508 (emotional music playing) 1422 01:20:47,510 --> 01:20:52,680 (indistinct chatter) 1423 01:20:57,286 --> 01:21:01,355 Amiri: We just got a decision in the Jane Doe case. 1424 01:21:01,357 --> 01:21:02,523 Class certification is granted. 1425 01:21:02,525 --> 01:21:03,958 Preliminary injunction as to the class. 1426 01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:09,363 The decision is amazing. The court says that while O.R.R. 1427 01:21:09,365 --> 01:21:12,733 and Scott Lloyd may prefer that the minors 1428 01:21:12,735 --> 01:21:15,202 in federal custody carry their pregnancies to term, 1429 01:21:15,204 --> 01:21:19,139 they may not impose that belief on minors and strip them 1430 01:21:19,141 --> 01:21:23,043 of their right to their reproductive decisions. 1431 01:21:23,045 --> 01:21:25,512 Man: Congratulations! Congratulations! 1432 01:21:25,514 --> 01:21:27,882 Woman: (cheering) 1433 01:21:27,984 --> 01:21:32,753 (indistinct chatter) 1434 01:21:32,755 --> 01:21:37,057 (dramatic music playing) 1435 01:21:59,548 --> 01:22:03,617 Block: We saw, with the Muslim ban, that Trump does something 1436 01:22:03,619 --> 01:22:07,554 shocking, and then they go back and try it again to make it 1437 01:22:07,556 --> 01:22:10,024 a little less shocking, and then again to make it 1438 01:22:10,026 --> 01:22:11,091 a little less shocking. 1439 01:22:11,093 --> 01:22:13,260 And then they go up to the Supreme Court, 1440 01:22:13,262 --> 01:22:17,231 where they have a more sympathetic audience. 1441 01:22:26,108 --> 01:22:28,609 Strangio: So, we could a denial this morning, 1442 01:22:28,611 --> 01:22:32,112 which would be great, or the Supreme Court could stay 1443 01:22:32,114 --> 01:22:36,817 the injunctions, which would be, like, terrible. 1444 01:22:36,819 --> 01:22:40,020 -Block: It's 9:30. -Strangio: Alright. So... 1445 01:22:40,022 --> 01:22:42,923 -Block: God damn it! -Strangio: What? They stayed it? 1446 01:22:42,925 --> 01:22:44,124 Block: They stayed it. 1447 01:22:44,126 --> 01:22:45,960 Strangio: Oh, fuck! There it is right there, 1448 01:22:45,962 --> 01:22:48,595 -it's the first thing. -Block: Yeah. Yeah. 1449 01:22:48,597 --> 01:22:54,368 Fuck! So this essentially means the ban is in effect. 1450 01:22:54,370 --> 01:22:56,070 Block: Yep. 1451 01:22:58,307 --> 01:23:02,276 (dramatic music playing) 1452 01:23:11,287 --> 01:23:14,054 Stone: Everybody was saying, "Oh, you know, you're safe, 1453 01:23:14,056 --> 01:23:17,791 you're safe." But, um, I guess the main thing 1454 01:23:17,793 --> 01:23:21,762 was I felt pretty disappointed that, you know, 1455 01:23:21,764 --> 01:23:25,366 all the people that were kind of in line to enlist 1456 01:23:25,368 --> 01:23:27,835 were gonna get screwed. 1457 01:23:28,571 --> 01:23:31,905 It's hard to go to work and focus on your job 1458 01:23:31,907 --> 01:23:35,509 and do a good job when you know that maybe 1459 01:23:35,511 --> 01:23:38,345 you're still gonna get kicked out. 1460 01:23:38,981 --> 01:23:40,848 Maybe the guy sitting next to you thinks 1461 01:23:40,850 --> 01:23:43,617 that you should be kicked out, you know? 1462 01:23:43,619 --> 01:23:47,888 (dramatic music playing) 1463 01:24:14,583 --> 01:24:16,583 Ho: When I think about... 1464 01:24:17,753 --> 01:24:21,488 what we expect, um, today, you know, 1465 01:24:21,490 --> 01:24:25,092 in, like, an adverse decision, um... 1466 01:24:25,494 --> 01:24:26,794 and I think about, like, 1467 01:24:26,796 --> 01:24:29,296 "Okay, well, next week I'm on vacation. It's, like, 1468 01:24:29,298 --> 01:24:32,466 finally my time to relax..." 1469 01:24:33,769 --> 01:24:35,402 Hey kiddo. 1470 01:24:36,639 --> 01:24:38,038 Bye. 1471 01:24:42,378 --> 01:24:44,211 -Thanks. -Mm-hmm. 1472 01:24:45,381 --> 01:24:47,147 -All right. -Good luck. 1473 01:24:47,149 --> 01:24:48,582 Thanks. 1474 01:24:52,521 --> 01:24:56,423 You know, it's gonna suck if we lose, but... 1475 01:24:56,425 --> 01:24:59,393 I mean, it's awful for us. It's awful for all of us. 1476 01:24:59,395 --> 01:25:02,029 It's awful for our democracy. 1477 01:25:11,307 --> 01:25:14,308 I never really thought I'd get an argument 1478 01:25:14,310 --> 01:25:16,443 in the Supreme Court. 1479 01:25:16,779 --> 01:25:19,246 And I sort of thought that if I did, 1480 01:25:19,248 --> 01:25:25,185 it would be a pretty minor case. Not something that's like... 1481 01:25:26,822 --> 01:25:29,490 the big bombshell of the day. 1482 01:25:52,548 --> 01:25:54,148 (sighs) 1483 01:26:10,533 --> 01:26:12,599 Got the decision. 1484 01:26:19,241 --> 01:26:20,674 Yeah. 1485 01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:26,713 Yeah, we lost. 1486 01:26:31,687 --> 01:26:33,253 (exhales) 1487 01:26:37,293 --> 01:26:39,059 Wait a minute, what? 1488 01:26:42,464 --> 01:26:43,897 Did I? 1489 01:26:44,366 --> 01:26:46,733 Did I read that too fast? 1490 01:26:47,670 --> 01:26:51,705 What the f... I can't understand what's happening. 1491 01:26:51,707 --> 01:26:54,575 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. 1492 01:26:54,577 --> 01:26:56,243 We... 1493 01:26:58,547 --> 01:27:00,747 won on... 1494 01:27:01,383 --> 01:27:04,585 on establishing that it was pretextual. 1495 01:27:06,655 --> 01:27:08,355 (telephone rings) 1496 01:27:08,357 --> 01:27:09,890 -Inga: Hey. -Hey, hey, hey. So, um... 1497 01:27:09,892 --> 01:27:14,828 -Inga: What's up? -Uh, uh, uh... It's confusing. 1498 01:27:14,830 --> 01:27:16,897 They're agreeing with us that the agency 1499 01:27:16,899 --> 01:27:20,667 wasn't truthful about why they added the citizenship question. 1500 01:27:20,669 --> 01:27:22,836 -Inga: Okay. -Ho: The pretext point. 1501 01:27:22,838 --> 01:27:25,172 They can't print the forms on Monday 1502 01:27:25,174 --> 01:27:27,207 with the question on it. 1503 01:27:27,376 --> 01:27:29,743 Inga: Okay. So... 1504 01:27:29,745 --> 01:27:31,478 -I mean, is it a... -It's a... 1505 01:27:31,480 --> 01:27:35,282 -Inga: ...voting rights victory? -It's like a win! 1506 01:27:37,386 --> 01:27:40,587 Inga: Do you want me to send the win version? 1507 01:27:40,789 --> 01:27:43,523 -Lawyer: Hey! -We're still winning right now. 1508 01:27:43,525 --> 01:27:45,692 -We're winning right now. -Ho: Yeah. 1509 01:27:45,694 --> 01:27:47,794 I gotta get the opinion. 1510 01:27:48,697 --> 01:27:52,266 And I saw, like, a dissent from the four liberals, and I-- 1511 01:27:52,268 --> 01:27:54,668 I just assumed that meant it's over, and the-- 1512 01:27:54,670 --> 01:27:57,304 Every first part of the opinion was... 1513 01:27:57,306 --> 01:27:59,206 "It's not substantively invalid." 1514 01:27:59,208 --> 01:28:01,174 I just feel like an idiot right now. 1515 01:28:01,176 --> 01:28:03,977 I forgot to send it to the printer. 1516 01:28:03,979 --> 01:28:04,978 Inga: To who? 1517 01:28:04,980 --> 01:28:06,446 Oh, Inga! Hey sorry, you're there. 1518 01:28:06,448 --> 01:28:09,216 I forgot to send the opinion to the printer. I have to-- I-- 1519 01:28:09,218 --> 01:28:11,818 I actually have to read the damn thing. 1520 01:28:14,857 --> 01:28:16,423 Holy shit! 1521 01:28:16,425 --> 01:28:18,959 -Holy shit! -Lawyer: We won! 1522 01:28:18,961 --> 01:28:20,360 (laughing) 1523 01:28:20,362 --> 01:28:22,963 Look, it's not over! I mean, they're gonna come back 1524 01:28:22,965 --> 01:28:24,131 -and try again. -Pretext! 1525 01:28:24,133 --> 01:28:25,465 Yeah, you're right! You're right! 1526 01:28:25,467 --> 01:28:26,700 -Yes! -Ho: You're right! 1527 01:28:26,702 --> 01:28:28,302 Lawyer: Congress has to have hearings. 1528 01:28:28,304 --> 01:28:29,403 Like, everything in sight 1529 01:28:29,405 --> 01:28:31,638 to make sure this question does not get on. 1530 01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:33,106 -Uh... -Lawyer: You won! 1531 01:28:33,108 --> 01:28:34,808 -(phone ringing) -Hello? 1532 01:28:34,810 --> 01:28:36,276 Cole: Hey Dale. Congratulations! 1533 01:28:36,278 --> 01:28:38,612 -We won! -Cole: Can you believe this? 1534 01:28:38,614 --> 01:28:40,347 I mean, I was reading the thing. I thought we lost. 1535 01:28:40,349 --> 01:28:42,749 I know! I did the same thing! I was reading the syllabus 1536 01:28:42,751 --> 01:28:44,551 -and I was like... -Cole: Exactly! 1537 01:28:44,553 --> 01:28:46,453 We won on pretext! 1538 01:28:46,522 --> 01:28:48,088 But that's unbelievable, 1539 01:28:48,090 --> 01:28:52,159 -so unbelievable. -Holy shit! 1540 01:28:52,394 --> 01:28:53,860 Oh my God! 1541 01:28:53,862 --> 01:28:57,497 -(laughs) Oh my God! -Cole: Oh my God. 1542 01:28:57,499 --> 01:29:00,500 At first I was like, "Oh shit, this is just temporary." 1543 01:29:00,502 --> 01:29:03,437 But the more I think about it, the more I think 1544 01:29:03,439 --> 01:29:05,739 that they can't do it. 1545 01:29:05,741 --> 01:29:10,344 We have a ruling from the Court that we can rely on discovery. 1546 01:29:10,346 --> 01:29:12,179 I mean, forget it. 1547 01:29:12,181 --> 01:29:15,482 We will fuck them up if they try to do this. 1548 01:29:15,484 --> 01:29:17,551 We will go back into court. We will depose 1549 01:29:17,553 --> 01:29:22,155 -all of these m------------. -Cole: (laughing) 1550 01:29:23,792 --> 01:29:26,159 Congrats! Maybe you should go on the other side 1551 01:29:26,161 --> 01:29:30,897 Okay, I've never done that before. Oh, God. 1552 01:29:30,899 --> 01:29:32,632 Crowd: (cheering) 1553 01:29:32,634 --> 01:29:33,433 Hey! 1554 01:29:33,435 --> 01:29:37,704 -Romero: Hey! (laughs) -(cheers and applause) 1555 01:29:48,217 --> 01:29:50,083 (telephone beeps) 1556 01:29:56,125 --> 01:29:59,526 (telephone ringing) 1557 01:30:05,634 --> 01:30:07,334 -Caroline: Hello? -We won. 1558 01:30:07,336 --> 01:30:11,538 Caroline: I know, I'm crying! I'm, like, shaking and crying. 1559 01:30:11,540 --> 01:30:14,674 That's so amazing! (sobs) 1560 01:30:15,677 --> 01:30:19,613 Oh, my God, it's so amazing! 1561 01:30:21,583 --> 01:30:22,716 We won. 1562 01:30:22,718 --> 01:30:25,886 Caroline: (chuckles) I'm so-- 1563 01:30:25,888 --> 01:30:27,721 I'm so incredibly proud 1564 01:30:27,723 --> 01:30:32,292 and happy. That's so great. It's so great. 1565 01:30:35,798 --> 01:30:40,834 (dramatic music playing) 1566 01:30:47,209 --> 01:30:49,810 Amiri: All I've ever known how to do is fight, 1567 01:30:49,812 --> 01:30:52,212 and so we just keep fighting. And even though we're tired 1568 01:30:52,214 --> 01:30:55,282 and even though it's exhausting and it's maddening, 1569 01:30:55,284 --> 01:30:57,117 it's what we do. 1570 01:31:05,828 --> 01:31:09,596 In Section One-- Is it Section One? 1571 01:31:12,334 --> 01:31:16,803 There's a significant risk of the courts coming up 1572 01:31:16,805 --> 01:31:19,906 with some constitutional right to discriminate 1573 01:31:19,908 --> 01:31:20,974 against LGBT people. 1574 01:31:20,976 --> 01:31:25,712 To not only, um, you know, stop protecting 1575 01:31:25,714 --> 01:31:28,849 them under the Constitution, but striking down laws 1576 01:31:28,851 --> 01:31:30,484 designed to protect them. 1577 01:31:30,486 --> 01:31:33,954 We don't know what the full fallout will be. 1578 01:31:33,956 --> 01:31:37,324 Strangio: There is a fight going on and we don't exist 1579 01:31:37,326 --> 01:31:39,693 on the terms of government definitions. 1580 01:31:39,695 --> 01:31:42,996 We exist because we are here right now. 1581 01:31:42,998 --> 01:31:45,732 (crowd cheering) 1582 01:31:45,734 --> 01:31:49,903 (indistinct chanting) 1583 01:31:58,480 --> 01:32:00,714 Ho: A lot of people have been running up to us 1584 01:32:00,716 --> 01:32:02,916 saying things like, you know, "You're our hope 1585 01:32:02,918 --> 01:32:06,353 against the forces that have put Trump in power," 1586 01:32:06,355 --> 01:32:09,656 and, "You're gonna be what's gonna stop this thing." 1587 01:32:09,658 --> 01:32:10,857 And I think that's wrong. 1588 01:32:10,859 --> 01:32:14,661 Like, we're not gonna be able to stop this thing ourselves. 1589 01:32:14,663 --> 01:32:17,063 I mean, we're, like, two-and-a-half floors 1590 01:32:17,065 --> 01:32:19,666 of a building in New York, right? 1591 01:32:19,668 --> 01:32:20,667 I mean we're not, 1592 01:32:20,669 --> 01:32:22,602 against the power of the federal government 1593 01:32:22,604 --> 01:32:25,839 and this massive political movement. 1594 01:32:26,475 --> 01:32:28,909 We're not gonna solve it. 1595 01:32:31,213 --> 01:32:34,881 I think if anyone expects us to, they need to take a look 1596 01:32:34,883 --> 01:32:36,416 in the mirror and ask themselves 1597 01:32:36,418 --> 01:32:38,351 what are they gonna do. 1598 01:32:38,453 --> 01:32:39,920 It's not gonna be lawyers in courts. 1599 01:32:39,922 --> 01:32:44,658 It's gonna be people who, um, turn the ship around. 1600 01:32:44,660 --> 01:32:49,195 (dramatic music playing) 1601 01:33:09,685 --> 01:33:11,551 Woman: She's here. 1602 01:33:15,824 --> 01:33:17,857 Oh my goodness. 1603 01:33:18,727 --> 01:33:19,859 -Hello! -Hi. 1604 01:33:19,861 --> 01:33:23,263 -Hello, Hello! Welcome! -Hi. 1605 01:33:23,265 --> 01:33:25,365 (woman laughs) 1606 01:33:31,139 --> 01:33:35,008 (Ms. L crying) 1607 01:33:42,618 --> 01:33:46,953 (sobbing) 1608 01:34:28,830 --> 01:34:32,832 (dramatic music playing) 1609 01:37:01,283 --> 01:37:05,952 (dramatic music playing) 131787

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