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Chief Justice Roberts:
I, Donald John Trump,
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do solemnly swear...
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Donald Trump: I, Donald John Trump, do solemnly swear...
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Roberts: That I will faithfully execute...
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Trump: That I will faithfully execute...
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Roberts:
The office of president
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of the United States...
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Trump: The office of president of the United States...
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Roberts: And will, to the best of my ability...
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Trump: And will, to the best of my ability...
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Roberts: Preserve, protect, and defend...
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Trump: Preserve, protect, and defend...
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Roberts: The Constitution of the United States.
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Trump: The Constitution of the United States.
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Crowd: (chanting) Immigrants in! Donald Trump out!
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Immigrants in! Donald Trump out!
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(chanting continues)
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Always the most
difficult decision of the case,
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which tie to wear.
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And yet they're both almost
exactly the same.
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News Anchor 1: Breaking right now, President Donald Trump's
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executive order
to ban immigration
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appears to have taken effect already.
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New Anchor 2: Homeland security officials started holding
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immigrants this morning who were arriving
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from these seven Muslim countries in the Middle East.
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The president's order bans nearly a hundred...
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Trump: I'm establishing new vetting measures
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to keep radical Islamic terrorists
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out of the United States
of America.
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We don't want 'em here.
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News Anchor: All day, demonstrations have been
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growing outside at JFK airport.
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The crowds there chanting...
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Crowd: (chanting) Let them out!
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Lee Gelernt: I was at home. I'm slowly seeing
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the news coverage at the airport.
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News Anchor 1: More than 100 people detained
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or denied entry into the United States
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at airports across the country.
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Michael George: We've seen volunteer lawyers,
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and they're literally
in the terminal,
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sitting on the ground on laptops
trying to write arguments,
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write briefs to try and get these individuals released.
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News Anchor 2:
The Trump administration
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holding firm that the president not only has the authority
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to pursue the order, but a duty.
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Gelernt:
I said to my wife and kids,
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"I'm going out to court," still not really grasping
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the magnitude of what was happening.
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Crowd: (chanting) A-C-L-U, we are here we stand with you!
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A-C-L-U, we are here we stand with you!
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News Anchor: The ACLU have gone to a federal courthouse
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in Brooklyn to try to implementa stay for the Executive Order.
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Gelernt: And the judge came in and said to the lawyers
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for the government, "Can you tell me right now
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that letting these people come into the country
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will threaten our national security?"
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The government said, "Well, the president believes so."
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Someone from the audience came rushing up to me.
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And he handed me a piece of paper and said,
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"My client is about to be put on a plane in 20 minutes
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back to the Middle East.
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And she will be in serious danger."
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News Anchor: We're going to take you straight
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to the federal courthouse there in Brooklyn, New York.
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Correspondent: We have not received any word,
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they're not letting anyone else in, but the crowd here
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is sort of anxiously awaiting word from inside
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as they all sort of press their noses up to the glass
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and look inside to see when the lawyers come back out.
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Woman:
Just leaving the courthouse...
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The stay was granted!
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The stay was granted!
The judge was amazing,
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giving love to the ACLU!
Thank you to the ACLU lawyers!
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Crowd: (cheering)
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Correspondent: The immigration lawyers are raising their fists
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in the air! They're pumping their fists!
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Crowd: (cheering)
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Anthony Romero:
This is Lee Gelernt,
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deputy director of
the Immigrants' Rights Project,
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who argued
in the federal court just now.
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Lee, why don't you tell us
what the judge granted
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and what you asked for?
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The judge, in a nutshell,
saw through what the government
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was doing and gave us
what we wanted,
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which was to block
the Trump order.
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Everyone now who came is safe.
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The president
could not override the courts.
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(cheers and applause)
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Crowd: (chanting) Thank you!
Thank you! Thank you!
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Thank you!
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(crowd cheering)
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(crowd continues cheering)
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Man: Thank you all!
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(singer humming)
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News Anchor 1: The Supreme Court today ruled that states
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may not forbid the teaching of evolution in public schools.
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News Anchor 2: The Lovings wereconvicted under Virginia law,
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which forbids any white person
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and colored person marrying each other.
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News Anchor 3: The Supreme Court today legalized abortion.
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News Anchor 4: The ACLU urgedthat the government stop trying
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to regulate pornography.
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News Anchor 5: The American Civil Liberties Union
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is maintaining the Nazis are being denied free speech.
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The American Civil
Liberties Union planning
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to make same-sex marriage
legal nationwide.
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So help me God.
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Roberts: Congratulations,
Mr. President.
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Donald J. Trump is calling
for a total and complete
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shutdown of Muslims
entering the United States.
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We've never seen
anything like this
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in our 96-year history.
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Trump: I would absolutely
bring back waterboarding
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and if it's gonna be tougher
than waterboarding,
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I would bring that back.
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Do you believe in punishment
for abortion.
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There has to be
some form of punishment.
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Chris Matthews: For the woman?
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Yeah. There has to be some form.
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I want surveillance
of certain mosques, okay?
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I will build a great,
great wall.
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(upbeat music playing)
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(crickets chirping)
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Jane Doe: (speaking Spanish)
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Brigitte Amiri:
Somewhere in this pile
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is the anonymous letter
that was sent to me.
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This is it.
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Uh, my name is handwritten
in pencil, uh, misspelled.
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So I can read parts
of the letter but I can't read
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all of it, because it has
identifying information.
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It says "Today is 12/17.
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There is a girl at blank shelter
in blank state.
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She wants an abortion, but O.R.R. will not allow it."
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Amiri: The government can't ban people
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from accessing abortion.
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I called the Department of Justice when I found out
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this was happening, and I said,
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"You can't be serious. You cannot be physically
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obstructing someone from accessing
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their constitutional right to an abortion."
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And they said, "So sorry, that's our client's position."
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And I said, "Well, then you will not be surprised
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when I challenge it in court."
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I wanna know, like, how he was appointed,
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who contacted him,
how he came to work for O.R.R.
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-Things like that.
-Yeah.
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Amiri: And then it's like,
who has he talked to
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about abortion?
VP? President?
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Why can't I ask that?
I can ask that, right?
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You can ask that. Yeah.
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Videographer:
Will the court reporter
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please swear in the witness?
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Court Reporter: Do you swear
to tell the truth,
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the whole truth,
and nothing but the truth
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-so help you God?
-I do.
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Amiri: This minor
had been raped, correct?
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Uh, well she claimed to
have been raped, yes.
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Amiri: Do you have any reason
to disbelieve her?
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No.
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This minor had thoughts
of self-harm?
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She expressed something
along those lines, yes.
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Amiri: You also believe
that abortion is a sin.
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What does that have to do
with anything?
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Amiri: It has to do with a lot.
I get to ask the questions.
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-Sure.
-Amiri: Mr. Tomlinson
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can object.
So my question is,
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do you believe abortion
is a sin?
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-Yes
-Tomlinson: I can object.
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He's testified in the past
that he does not let religion
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guide his job.
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Amiri: I'm trying to understand
what the policy really is here
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with respect
to abortion requests.
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Okay, then let's talk
about the policy.
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Amiri: Okay.
I'm trying to understand
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whether there is any
abortion request
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that you are ever going
to approve.
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And the answer
is which I've answered
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is, "I don't know."
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Trump: Now for the first time
since Roe v. Wade,
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America has
a pro-life president,
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a pro-life vice president,
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a pro-life
House of Representatives,
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and 25 pro-life Republican state capitals.
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That is pretty good.
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That is pretty good.
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Wow!
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(dramatic music playing)
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(helicopter rotor whirring)
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(keypad clacking)
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Brock Stone: The first thing I knew about the tweet was
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I'd had a friend that texted me
that morning, and she was like,
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"Well whatever you do,
don't look at Twitter
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and don't look at the news."
And I was like,
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"That's a weird thing
to tell me."
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And what am I gonna do?
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The first thing I'm gonna do
is look at the news.
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News Anchor 1: The latest presidential tweetstorm
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seemed to blindside his own Pentagon,
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which promptly referred all inquiries
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back to the White House.
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News Anchor 2: The Pentagon estimates there are roughly
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2,500 transgender service members on active duty.
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Stone: It was kind of shocking. It was kind of just, like,
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a disconnect. Like, it didn't feel real at first.
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News Anchor:
Look, transgenderism
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is not an actual thing.
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It's a mental dysfunction. Wehave two genders right now...
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Stone: I think I just kept rolling over in my head,
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you know, "What can I do?
What am I going to do?"
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(dramatic music playing)
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One sec. Ab-so-lut...
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How do you spell "absolutely?"
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Ah!
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Absolutely give him my number.
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Because-- Well, I'm trying to--
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I'm trying to sign up
this one person for our lawsuit,
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but they need-- Someone asked
if we could give him my number,
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and I said "Yes, absolutely,
give him my number."
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You can go over there.
And then, cause I'm about to get
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on my call and part of the key
is that you entertain yourself
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for a very short while.
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-Okay
-Okay.
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Hey, this is Chase
from the ACLU.
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Hey Taylor, this is Chase
from the ACLU.
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Is this Lynneth?
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Hey, is now still a good time
to chat?
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Man: I was actually sitting herewaiting for the phone to ring.
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Oh, perfect!
We're in the process
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of trying to, to add people
to our lawsuits.
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If you're open to it,
it would be helpful
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if I could ask you
a bunch of questions--
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Simran, you're literally
pulling my computer
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off the desk. Sorry.
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Yes, yes we are working
the weekends.
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We've been actually working up
a challenge
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to the military policy.
We really want to include
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lots of different people
who are harmed...
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-Did you break a hanger?
-Oops.
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We are trying to move quickly
and get a lot of information
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to challenge
every aspect of this.
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This is like my best suit.
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And we wanna make sure
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that nobody is being blocked
from enlisting.
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-Wee, Uno!
-Sim...
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-Ah!
-Alright talk to you soon.
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Okay. All right. Bye.
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(Simran laughing)
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Josh Block: This is the president's declaration
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-of open season on trans people.
-Man: (over phone) Yeah.
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Block: We need the court to act
and enjoin the government
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from doing anything
to enforce this directive.
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I really just wanted
a very simple thing.
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(laughs)
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Double-check her, 'cause...
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-Yeah, yeah. Mm-hmm.
-Block: This one?
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-Nine-and-a-half years.
-Block: Yeah!
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-Chase Strangio: Staff sergeant.
-Block: Yeah.
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So that's, like, straight army.
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-Okay, so this person.
-That is awesome.
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Strangio: He's an active duty.
Lots of commendations.
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-Yeah.
-Strangio: Obviously, someone
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the military has invested
a lot of resources in.
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There's a risk that
they'll be retaliated against
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in the military.
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I just don't want people
getting involved without
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fully understanding
what that would look like
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in the scope of their lives.
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ACLU, good morning.
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Is he in prison?
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Okay, so you're calling for help
for your friend who's in prison.
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(indistinct chatter)
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No. But people are cross-trained
to do our work...
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Strangio: Ever since Trump got elected,
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we basically slowly started taking over the building.
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We have a lot of lawyers.
I would say...
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like a hundred,
but I'm making that up.
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You can also sort of gauge
the hierarchy
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based on the niceness
of the offices.
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So here's the legal
director's office.
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There'll be a very distinct
contrast with my office.
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This is the famous
Brigitte Amiri's office.
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You can see how hard she works
by the stacks of papers.
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Human Rights is right here.
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The Brooklyn Bridge
Conference Room,
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which has the best view.
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Lee is not here.
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He's probably in court.
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This is-- I am not the best
ACLU tour guide.
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Copy machines,
which I don't know how to work.
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Very artistic.
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This says, "the Womb Room".
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I don't really know
what goes on here.
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There's Jason.
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One of the few people I can talk
about sports with here.
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Strangio: And now we've reached
the LGBT Project.
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-Hey look!
-Block: Hey!
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I'm giving a tour.
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-Block: Yeah?
-Strangio: Yeah!
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Wow
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This is Dale's. He has
a very, like, oaky feeling.
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It's very Elk Moose Lodge.
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There are probably
more tattoos and piercings here
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at the ACLU than there
are at DOJ.
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The legal department is divided
into different projects.
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So, Women's Rights,
which was started
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by Ruth Bader Ginsberg.
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And then Speech Privacy
and Technology
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in that corner over there.
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I think they're the ones
who organize
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the Whisky Wednesdays,
which I'm too old for now.
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This is the intern den.
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Very intense and ambitious.
Very scary to walk in here.
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(laughter)
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Block: Chase is right here.
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I usually like, I always go
to see what's happening.
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He's definitely on the phone.
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Strangio: This is an empty
window office.
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Like, maybe I should get to work
in this office.
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I will say, it is pretty amazing
to come to work every day
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and be like,
"Wow, like, my colleagues
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are really, like, doing it!"
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They're such badasses.
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(distant siren wailing)
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You'll hear testimony
from four of the plaintiffs
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in this case.
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All of them
are United States citizens.
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All of them are qualified
to vote in the state of Kansas.
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This law is like using...
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Enforcing this law is like
using a bazooka to kill a fly.
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Thousands of Kansas voters
have been the collateral damage.
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Election-related litigation
tends to go a little bit faster,
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because we're usually trying
to get a court ruling
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before the next election.
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I like that.
I like stuff that's fast-paced.
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(upbeat music playing)
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Dale Ho: This case is all about protecting the right to vote
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and disproving the lie that there are hoards
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of non-citizens infiltrating American elections.
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I've been doing this particular job for four years.
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We're gonna be fighting state-to-state,
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county-to-county against these
voter suppression measures.
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Michael Cloud: Mr. Ho, do you think that illegal aliens
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should be allowed to vote?
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Ho: No. And I'm not aware
of any state that does so.
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It's been pretty time-consuming.
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I spend a decent amount of time on the road.
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Hey, sweetheart. Sorry that
I'm not gonna be home tonight.
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(grunts)
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Kids! Goodnight!
I love you both.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Boy: Daddy!
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Daddy!
Will you juggle, juggle, juggle?
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I want you to juggle!
Juggle, juggle!
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Juggle!
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Juggling balls.
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Hey! That's not
how you juggle.
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Girl: Three balls.
You need three balls to juggle.
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Yeah. Juggling...
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Ho: Before the election, I mean, I was thinking,
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"We'll get through the election and maybe see--
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Just poke around out there and see if there may be
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things that will allow me
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to spend a little more time with my family."
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But...
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the results of this election
made that idea just,
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I just tossed that idea
out the window.
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I mean, if I'm not gonna be
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a civil rights lawyer right now,
in this moment...
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when, right?
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So...
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Trump: They spend billions
of dollars on the census
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and you're not allowed to ask?
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You go knock on doors of houses.
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Check houses.
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You go through all this detail,
and you're not allowed to ask
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whether or not somebody
is a citizen?
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(dramatic music playing)
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News Anchor 1: The U.S. Department of Commerce
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announced Monday that it plans to add
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a question
on citizenship status
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to the 2020 Census.
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News Anchor 2:
A seemingly simple question,
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"Are you a U.S. Citizen?"
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Ho:
This is one of the few things
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that's written in our Constitution
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that the federal government has to do.
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It's not just
in the Constitution,
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it's the sixth fucking sentence!
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The census
is supposed to count
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every single person
in this country.
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Not just citizens.
Every person.
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Ho: How many seats a state gets in
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the House of Representatives.
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How many votes it gets in the electoral college.
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It's all based on the census.
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News Anchor: Challengers say
the question could lead
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to millions of people
not responding to the census
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and that could affect
how federal money is allocated
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00:22:02,722 --> 00:22:07,792
and how many representatives
each state gets in Congress.
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-Sarah: This is Sarah.
-Hey Sarah.
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You've got all of New York here.
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00:22:15,601 --> 00:22:17,068
-Sarah: Okay.
-Ho: We anticipate
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they're gonna file something
in the Supreme Court
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and we're gonna have
to oppose that.
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00:22:20,406 --> 00:22:22,740
And I like the idea
of doing a response here,
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obviously
for the substantive reasons,
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but also to jam them up
a little bit.
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The more we hit them
with right now,
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the harder it is for them
to respond and stay on course.
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Sarah: If we can get a brief...
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Ho: The government's own estimate is that
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six-and-a-half million won't respond to the census
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if you add this question.
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Six states would be at risk
of losing a seat in Congress.
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00:22:42,962 --> 00:22:46,497
It's kind of difficult
to imagine higher stakes.
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00:22:58,878 --> 00:23:02,947
Today, we're here
to send a message to the world
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00:23:02,949 --> 00:23:07,084
that we are not going to let
the country be overwhelmed.
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00:23:07,086 --> 00:23:09,520
People are not going to caravan
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or otherwise stampede
our border.
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00:23:12,358 --> 00:23:15,192
If you cross the border
unlawfully
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then we will prosecute you.
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00:23:16,629 --> 00:23:22,266
If you are smuggling a child,
then we will prosecute you,
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00:23:22,268 --> 00:23:25,903
and that child
may be separated from you.
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00:23:25,905 --> 00:23:27,838
These actions are necessary
430
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,574
and they are made
even more necessary
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00:23:30,576 --> 00:23:34,979
by this massive increase in illegal crossings...
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00:23:34,981 --> 00:23:38,616
(dramatic music playing)
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00:24:08,581 --> 00:24:11,882
Gelernt: I just drove down
to the San Diego/Mexico border
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to meet with this mother
who the government
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00:24:15,488 --> 00:24:21,125
has separated her from her child
who's seven-and-a-half.
436
00:24:21,127 --> 00:24:25,029
She escaped her country
where she was gonna be killed,
437
00:24:25,031 --> 00:24:28,799
and now is seeking asylum here.
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00:24:29,769 --> 00:24:32,970
The government took her child and sent her to Chicago.
439
00:24:32,972 --> 00:24:38,843
The child is, of course, scared out of her mind, crying.
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00:24:38,845 --> 00:24:40,144
The little girl knows no one
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00:24:40,146 --> 00:24:43,047
and she's just sitting there by herself.
442
00:24:43,049 --> 00:24:45,850
I've come to talk to this woman about whether
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she would like us to bring a suit.
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00:24:54,927 --> 00:25:00,564
Ms. L:
(speaking foreign language)
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00:25:59,158 --> 00:26:04,995
Gelernt: That was a really rough meeting.
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00:26:04,997 --> 00:26:07,865
The mother
would like us to do...
447
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:12,503
what we can to get
her daughter back to her.
448
00:26:12,738 --> 00:26:14,271
So...
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00:26:14,473 --> 00:26:15,906
She's...
450
00:26:16,409 --> 00:26:19,443
She's distraught, you know?
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00:26:19,512 --> 00:26:21,412
I don't know.
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00:26:28,287 --> 00:26:32,323
Reporter: You'd mentioned that there might be some
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pending legal action coming?
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I just wanted to see
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if there's anything you can talk about.
456
00:26:37,797 --> 00:26:40,931
Yeah, let's talk--
Off the record?
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00:26:40,933 --> 00:26:42,766
Reporter: Yeah.
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00:26:44,136 --> 00:26:48,405
So we are confidentially filing
a national class action
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in the next few hours.
460
00:26:49,842 --> 00:26:52,910
We think there's hundreds
of people all over the country
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00:26:52,912 --> 00:26:55,245
who this is happening to.
462
00:26:57,550 --> 00:26:58,582
Mike? It's Lee Gelernt.
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00:26:58,584 --> 00:27:00,918
Hey, Heidi, it's Lee.
Spencer, it's Lee.
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00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,252
We gotta get going
on this stuff.
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00:27:02,254 --> 00:27:03,721
You saw we got
another plaintiff, right?
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00:27:03,723 --> 00:27:05,856
-(phone ringing)
-We're gonna do our reply
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00:27:05,858 --> 00:27:07,458
-in three hours.
-(phone ringing)
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00:27:07,460 --> 00:27:11,562
Can I send you the complaint
and you start playing with that?
469
00:27:11,564 --> 00:27:12,496
(phone ringing)
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00:27:12,498 --> 00:27:14,164
You gotta make it clear
to the court what's happening.
471
00:27:14,166 --> 00:27:15,799
There is a habeas
position, but the motion
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to dismiss is almost
fully briefed,
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00:27:17,336 --> 00:27:18,836
and now all of a sudden
they're telling us
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they may remove the person
while the stay motion
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is pending,
which is another 48 hours.
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00:27:24,543 --> 00:27:26,377
(phone ringing)
477
00:27:26,379 --> 00:27:27,978
Yeah, sure.
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00:27:28,781 --> 00:27:30,848
(phone continues ringing)
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00:27:30,850 --> 00:27:33,217
Hold on one second, okay?
480
00:27:34,020 --> 00:27:38,022
(cellphone ringing)
481
00:27:41,661 --> 00:27:45,529
(other phone continues ringing)
482
00:27:51,137 --> 00:27:54,171
My charger doesn't work.
Do you have an extra charger?
483
00:27:54,173 --> 00:27:55,472
-Can you-- You do?
-Yeah.
484
00:27:55,474 --> 00:27:57,107
-Can I borrow it?
-Yeah, but you have to plug it
485
00:27:57,109 --> 00:27:58,842
into your computer.
I don't have the wall...
486
00:27:58,844 --> 00:28:00,144
Can you show--
How do I do that?
487
00:28:00,146 --> 00:28:02,046
It's just, you plug it
into a USB outlet
488
00:28:02,048 --> 00:28:04,448
in your tower,
your computer tower...
489
00:28:04,450 --> 00:28:05,883
But...
490
00:28:06,419 --> 00:28:08,352
You plug in that side
to the USB part
491
00:28:08,354 --> 00:28:10,421
-and you plug in...
-Down below?
492
00:28:10,423 --> 00:28:12,056
-Yeah.
-Yes.
493
00:28:13,659 --> 00:28:15,192
Um...
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00:28:17,596 --> 00:28:19,196
Um...
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00:28:22,835 --> 00:28:27,404
(phone ringing)
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00:28:31,811 --> 00:28:34,678
Producer: So, how many
of these separation cases
497
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do you think are out there?
498
00:28:37,083 --> 00:28:40,551
People on the ground
in the detention centers
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00:28:40,553 --> 00:28:42,086
are saying hundreds.
500
00:28:42,088 --> 00:28:45,222
Hundreds of parents
have just lost their kids
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00:28:45,224 --> 00:28:48,058
to being separated.
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00:28:51,630 --> 00:28:53,564
Reporter: Why is the government doing this?
503
00:28:53,566 --> 00:28:55,299
Sarah Sanders: Because it's the law,
504
00:28:55,301 --> 00:28:56,500
and that's what the law states.
505
00:28:56,502 --> 00:28:58,769
-And the law...
-There is no law that requires
506
00:28:58,771 --> 00:29:00,170
families to be separated
at the border.
507
00:29:00,172 --> 00:29:01,672
This was the administration's
choice to move
508
00:29:01,674 --> 00:29:03,974
from civil matters
on immigration onto criminal
509
00:29:03,976 --> 00:29:05,375
and therefore
to separate families.
510
00:29:05,377 --> 00:29:06,777
Brian: Don't you have
any empathy
511
00:29:06,779 --> 00:29:08,212
for what these people
are going through?
512
00:29:08,214 --> 00:29:09,480
-Jill...
-Brian: They have less
513
00:29:09,482 --> 00:29:11,248
-than you do!
-Brian! Guys! Settle down.
514
00:29:11,250 --> 00:29:12,883
-Sarah, seriously.
-Sanders: I'm trying to be
515
00:29:12,885 --> 00:29:14,785
serious, but I'm not gonna
have you yell out of turn.
516
00:29:14,787 --> 00:29:16,787
-Jill, please go on.
-You're telling us it's a law,
517
00:29:16,789 --> 00:29:19,289
and you throw children in cages.
You're a parent.
518
00:29:19,291 --> 00:29:20,691
You're a parent
of young children!
519
00:29:20,693 --> 00:29:23,694
Don't you have any empathy
for what they go through?
520
00:29:23,696 --> 00:29:24,595
Jill, go ahead.
521
00:29:24,597 --> 00:29:25,796
Jill: Two questions for you.
522
00:29:25,798 --> 00:29:27,631
Firstly, does the president
really believe...
523
00:29:27,633 --> 00:29:30,901
(TV theme music playing)
524
00:29:32,471 --> 00:29:35,205
Amiri: So this is a Christian
television station.
525
00:29:35,207 --> 00:29:37,407
We begin tonight with an exclusive interview
526
00:29:37,409 --> 00:29:39,076
with the Trump official who tried to stop
527
00:29:39,078 --> 00:29:41,678
a detained immigrant from getting an abortion.
528
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,413
I know you personally have written about
529
00:29:43,415 --> 00:29:46,216
your pro-life views and are a Catholic father of six.
530
00:29:46,218 --> 00:29:47,151
Yeah.
531
00:29:47,153 --> 00:29:48,919
Amiri: You are robbing young women of their ability
532
00:29:48,921 --> 00:29:50,921
to make decisions
about their pregnancies
533
00:29:50,923 --> 00:29:52,956
and forcing them
to carry their pregnancies
534
00:29:52,958 --> 00:29:55,159
to term against their will
because you think
535
00:29:55,161 --> 00:29:56,493
you know what's best for them.
536
00:29:56,495 --> 00:30:00,164
There isn't anything more scary
or more patriarchal.
537
00:30:00,166 --> 00:30:02,466
We need to do everything that we can to protect
538
00:30:02,468 --> 00:30:04,001
the dignity of life of human life
539
00:30:04,003 --> 00:30:06,770
from conception to natural death.
540
00:30:08,107 --> 00:30:14,111
(dramatic music playing)
541
00:30:16,148 --> 00:30:17,981
Amiri: If the court doesn't intervene quickly,
542
00:30:17,983 --> 00:30:20,384
she will be forced to carry her pregnancy
543
00:30:20,386 --> 00:30:22,519
to term against her will.
544
00:30:28,928 --> 00:30:32,963
Time is a big factor. We're racing against the clock.
545
00:30:32,965 --> 00:30:37,201
(dramatic music playing)
546
00:30:57,423 --> 00:30:59,556
Alright this sentence
doesn't sound right to me.
547
00:30:59,558 --> 00:31:03,493
"Although the government has
asserted that on... (mumbles)
548
00:31:03,495 --> 00:31:04,828
Start all over again.
549
00:31:04,830 --> 00:31:05,829
"That it believed."
550
00:31:05,831 --> 00:31:07,297
-Amiri: That it believed.
-Yeah.
551
00:31:07,299 --> 00:31:09,199
Yep. Okay. Now I'm too tired.
552
00:31:10,269 --> 00:31:14,037
It really feels like a canary in the coalmine moment.
553
00:31:14,039 --> 00:31:16,473
If we lose this case, I don't know
554
00:31:16,475 --> 00:31:19,042
what Roe vs. Wade means.
555
00:31:38,330 --> 00:31:42,165
(dramatic music playing)
556
00:31:42,167 --> 00:31:44,101
Brett Kavanaugh:
The government has argued
557
00:31:44,103 --> 00:31:46,370
we want to favor life over abortion.
558
00:31:46,372 --> 00:31:49,072
What is your response to their suggestion
559
00:31:49,074 --> 00:31:52,676
that they don't have to be complicit in the abortion?
560
00:31:52,678 --> 00:31:54,278
Amiri: Your Honor, I would say that
561
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,914
they have admitted in the context of ICE detention
562
00:31:56,916 --> 00:31:59,249
that they will and do facilitate abortion.
563
00:31:59,251 --> 00:32:02,119
Kavanaugh: Suppose she had been detained at the border,
564
00:32:02,121 --> 00:32:03,320
but not in the United States.
565
00:32:03,322 --> 00:32:05,889
She would have been sent back,presumably, to her home country
566
00:32:05,891 --> 00:32:08,358
and the government's theory of this is that
567
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:12,095
that's the same position she would be in now.
568
00:32:12,097 --> 00:32:14,331
Amiri: But that's not the position she's in now.
569
00:32:14,333 --> 00:32:15,933
Your Honor, deportation proceedings
570
00:32:15,935 --> 00:32:17,234
have not begun against her.
571
00:32:17,236 --> 00:32:19,403
Due process clause of the Fifth Amendment applies
572
00:32:19,405 --> 00:32:21,204
to all persons in the United States.
573
00:32:21,206 --> 00:32:23,307
There is no reason why her immigration status
574
00:32:23,309 --> 00:32:25,275
should diminish her constitutional right
575
00:32:25,277 --> 00:32:26,410
to access abortion.
576
00:32:26,412 --> 00:32:30,113
The government may not ban abortion for anyone.
577
00:32:31,984 --> 00:32:36,987
(dramatic music playing)
578
00:32:38,624 --> 00:32:42,893
(indistinct chatter)
579
00:32:47,266 --> 00:32:50,500
(phone ringing)
580
00:32:56,442 --> 00:32:58,442
(chuckles)
581
00:32:59,378 --> 00:33:02,879
It's good, it's good.
All good stuff.
582
00:33:03,482 --> 00:33:04,481
Thanks, everybody!
583
00:33:04,483 --> 00:33:07,951
Yep, you guys are amazing.
Thank you. Bye.
584
00:33:11,123 --> 00:33:13,857
I'm not sure that there's much
I can say on the train.
585
00:33:13,859 --> 00:33:17,227
But, um, things
are gonna work out.
586
00:33:17,229 --> 00:33:21,531
She will be able to get the care
she needs tomorrow.
587
00:33:22,401 --> 00:33:23,433
Look at that headline.
588
00:33:23,435 --> 00:33:25,769
And how happy
does that make you?
589
00:33:25,904 --> 00:33:28,472
Ah! So happy.
590
00:33:28,774 --> 00:33:31,842
I have to edit it,
but this is the headline. Right?
591
00:33:31,844 --> 00:33:33,477
Meagan Burrows: Good headline.
592
00:33:33,479 --> 00:33:34,778
Amiri: (laughing)
593
00:33:34,780 --> 00:33:36,279
-Guess what I'm getting?
-Burrows: Wine!
594
00:33:36,281 --> 00:33:40,650
Amiri: Train wine!
Who wants some train wine?
595
00:33:40,652 --> 00:33:42,152
Oh, yeah.
596
00:33:42,221 --> 00:33:43,887
Cheers! Woohoo!
597
00:33:43,889 --> 00:33:45,655
Train wine.
598
00:33:51,830 --> 00:33:58,168
Jane Doe: (speaking Spanish)
599
00:34:15,387 --> 00:34:19,056
Amiri: We know there are other young women out there.
600
00:34:19,058 --> 00:34:20,924
We know the policy is still in place.
601
00:34:20,926 --> 00:34:23,627
We're asking to proceed as a class action
602
00:34:23,629 --> 00:34:25,896
so we don't have to go
running into court
603
00:34:25,898 --> 00:34:28,398
for each young woman
once we find them.
604
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:33,904
(dramatic music playing)
605
00:34:36,075 --> 00:34:40,010
Strangio: I actually started,
um, cross-stitching.
606
00:34:40,012 --> 00:34:41,011
Block: Yeah, no I...
607
00:34:41,013 --> 00:34:42,312
Like, you know,
"home sweet home"
608
00:34:42,314 --> 00:34:43,814
-on a pillow.
-Block: Right.
609
00:34:43,816 --> 00:34:45,849
It's "CrossFit",
is what people are saying.
610
00:34:45,851 --> 00:34:47,384
Wait, did you get,
like, confused?
611
00:34:47,386 --> 00:34:49,553
-(laughs) I wish I was doing--
-Cause it doesn't, like,
612
00:34:49,555 --> 00:34:51,655
-keep you in shape.
-Yeah, no I'm not--
613
00:34:51,657 --> 00:34:52,823
I wish I was doing CrossFit,
614
00:34:52,825 --> 00:34:55,058
but instead,
I'm doing needlepoint.
615
00:34:55,060 --> 00:34:57,060
(chuckles)
616
00:35:00,499 --> 00:35:01,565
Strangio: Hi, I'm Chase.
617
00:35:01,567 --> 00:35:02,866
Stone:
Nice to meet you in person.
618
00:35:02,868 --> 00:35:04,267
-Good to meet you.
-Block: I'm Josh.
619
00:35:04,269 --> 00:35:06,036
great to meet you
in person too.
620
00:35:06,038 --> 00:35:09,606
Stone: I joined May 23rd, 2006.
621
00:35:09,608 --> 00:35:12,609
So it'll be over 12 years now.
622
00:35:13,011 --> 00:35:14,444
That was a flag that
623
00:35:14,446 --> 00:35:16,012
when I was in Afghanistan,
I flew.
624
00:35:16,014 --> 00:35:18,648
Yeah, the one below,
it's like my farewell plaque
625
00:35:18,650 --> 00:35:20,784
from when I was in Korea.
626
00:35:20,786 --> 00:35:21,852
These three are my dad.
627
00:35:21,854 --> 00:35:24,921
That I think was just his basic
training photo.
628
00:35:24,923 --> 00:35:27,324
He was a Morse code operator.
629
00:35:27,326 --> 00:35:29,392
Block: How would you express
your feelings
630
00:35:29,394 --> 00:35:32,362
about your interaction
with other service members
631
00:35:32,364 --> 00:35:35,732
and whether there's ever been
any problem or discomfort?
632
00:35:35,734 --> 00:35:38,668
I have not had one person
be anything but supportive.
633
00:35:38,670 --> 00:35:40,971
Like, if there's anybody here
that has an issue
634
00:35:40,973 --> 00:35:43,306
with me being trans,
I'm not aware of it.
635
00:35:43,308 --> 00:35:46,042
The military is very much
a family for me.
636
00:35:46,044 --> 00:35:47,911
That's kind of being taken away
from me.
637
00:35:47,913 --> 00:35:50,514
You know, I have people
tell me all the time,
638
00:35:50,516 --> 00:35:52,616
"Military service
is a privilege.
639
00:35:52,618 --> 00:35:53,617
It's not a right."
640
00:35:53,619 --> 00:35:56,353
I would argue that by virtue
of my performance,
641
00:35:56,355 --> 00:35:59,356
by virtue of my ability,
and by virtue of the fact
642
00:35:59,358 --> 00:36:01,992
that I am qualified
to be in the military
643
00:36:01,994 --> 00:36:07,130
and have been for 11 years,
that I should stay.
644
00:36:07,266 --> 00:36:10,000
(train chugging)
645
00:36:10,002 --> 00:36:15,438
(dramatic music playing)
646
00:36:16,308 --> 00:36:19,376
Block: The people that have been pushing for this ban
647
00:36:19,378 --> 00:36:23,580
object to the existence of trans people.
648
00:36:23,582 --> 00:36:28,285
They wanna kick them out of jobs and out of schools.
649
00:36:28,287 --> 00:36:33,490
Basically, they wanna erase trans people from public life.
650
00:36:38,730 --> 00:36:41,798
Strangio: If your whole body and identity
651
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,936
is sort of the contested site
of the conversation,
652
00:36:45,938 --> 00:36:48,705
it's really hard to then
put it out there.
653
00:36:48,707 --> 00:36:50,307
It's easier for me
to, like, watch Josh
654
00:36:50,309 --> 00:36:52,576
do an argument
and do a great job
655
00:36:52,578 --> 00:36:54,144
because Josh knows how to do it.
656
00:36:54,146 --> 00:36:57,914
And if we get a good ruling,
like, then...
657
00:36:57,916 --> 00:36:59,182
I will have been brilliant.
658
00:36:59,184 --> 00:37:02,819
And if, like,
we get a bad ruling...
659
00:37:02,821 --> 00:37:06,590
Strangio: The fate of the trans
community is all your fault.
660
00:37:06,592 --> 00:37:07,390
Yeah.
661
00:37:07,392 --> 00:37:08,892
Producer:
And it's just gonna be you?
662
00:37:08,894 --> 00:37:11,795
Block: Uh, we're not
sure yet. Um...
663
00:37:11,797 --> 00:37:13,196
Probably.
664
00:37:13,198 --> 00:37:14,931
I guess we'll see.
665
00:37:14,933 --> 00:37:18,768
It is complicated,
as a cis person,
666
00:37:18,770 --> 00:37:21,071
to be, like, doing the argument.
667
00:37:21,073 --> 00:37:23,873
Like, there's so much
responsibility you have
668
00:37:23,875 --> 00:37:26,243
to the people whose stories
you're telling.
669
00:37:26,245 --> 00:37:30,580
You're the only trans person
on the team
670
00:37:30,582 --> 00:37:33,750
except for our clients, um...
671
00:37:33,752 --> 00:37:35,919
and that's complicated.
672
00:37:35,921 --> 00:37:40,824
What do you feel about
doing the argument yourself?
673
00:37:40,826 --> 00:37:42,392
Strangio:
Well I mean, I just...
674
00:37:42,394 --> 00:37:44,894
I'm not the right person
to do this argument, you know?
675
00:37:44,896 --> 00:37:47,797
I think it's tricky,
cause you have to build up--
676
00:37:47,799 --> 00:37:48,932
Like, this is a huge case.
677
00:37:48,934 --> 00:37:50,634
Like, I don't have
enough experience.
678
00:37:50,636 --> 00:37:52,636
I mean, when I became a lawyer,
there weren't that many
679
00:37:52,638 --> 00:37:54,204
trans lawyers, and so,
then I had to be doing
680
00:37:54,206 --> 00:37:56,673
a lot of different types
of things, and it didn't include
681
00:37:56,675 --> 00:38:00,910
just honing my litigation skills
on random shit.
682
00:38:00,912 --> 00:38:02,445
'Cause there was just
no time for that.
683
00:38:02,447 --> 00:38:04,214
It was like, "Go do
this legislative advocacy,"
684
00:38:04,216 --> 00:38:08,818
"Go learn how to be on TV,"
"Go do this," "Go do that."
685
00:38:10,789 --> 00:38:12,255
"Go...
686
00:38:12,491 --> 00:38:16,726
train the ACLU on what
it means to be trans."
687
00:38:17,663 --> 00:38:21,898
(upbeat music playing)
688
00:38:28,774 --> 00:38:31,107
Amiri: "We all know
what birth control means
689
00:38:31,109 --> 00:38:32,008
to the ACLU.
690
00:38:32,010 --> 00:38:33,843
It is the bashing of the heads
of the innocent
691
00:38:33,845 --> 00:38:37,814
and the spilling of their brains
on the sidewalk."
692
00:38:38,150 --> 00:38:40,717
"A liberal immigrant
dumbass like you
693
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,486
can't understand that voting
in the U.S.
694
00:38:43,488 --> 00:38:45,255
is done only by U.S. citizens."
695
00:38:45,257 --> 00:38:49,025
"Illegal immigrants
do not have rights, jackass."
696
00:38:49,027 --> 00:38:51,928
He could probably do
without eight exclamation marks.
697
00:38:51,930 --> 00:38:54,698
Probably five
would have been sufficient.
698
00:38:54,700 --> 00:38:57,600
Strangio: "Hey, faggot.
You're a disgusting,
699
00:38:57,602 --> 00:38:58,868
subhuman dickhead."
700
00:38:58,870 --> 00:39:00,403
"Your hanging out
with a lesbian crowd
701
00:39:00,405 --> 00:39:03,773
has obliterate all shards
of decency in your own life."
702
00:39:03,775 --> 00:39:05,442
"Go home, immigrant pig."
703
00:39:05,444 --> 00:39:07,977
Man: Hey, Lee, "A" stands for "American".
704
00:39:07,979 --> 00:39:12,282
Americans come first. We don't appreciate your work.
705
00:39:12,284 --> 00:39:15,285
Woman: (over phone)
706
00:39:16,621 --> 00:39:20,557
"You murdering ass."
"You lesbo-loving..."
707
00:39:20,559 --> 00:39:21,591
Poop emoji.
708
00:39:21,593 --> 00:39:24,694
Man 1: (over phone)
709
00:39:24,696 --> 00:39:27,097
Man 2: I mean, obviously, you're a little gay faggot.
710
00:39:27,099 --> 00:39:29,899
I can see that by your photograph and your voice.
711
00:39:29,901 --> 00:39:33,103
You're a fucking piece of shit.
712
00:39:36,074 --> 00:39:39,876
Yeah. If you don't look
at the negative stuff,
713
00:39:39,878 --> 00:39:42,812
then you're just sort
of in your own bubble.
714
00:39:42,814 --> 00:39:45,548
Ho: You know,
I don't wanna run from this.
715
00:39:56,695 --> 00:40:01,598
"Are you a citizen of
the United States of America?"
716
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:02,499
"Oh, gee!
717
00:40:02,501 --> 00:40:06,436
I'm sorry, I just can't answer
that question."
718
00:40:06,438 --> 00:40:10,006
We must have a reliable count
of how many citizens,
719
00:40:10,008 --> 00:40:16,012
noncitizens, and illegal aliens
are in our country.
720
00:40:16,081 --> 00:40:18,581
Reporter: Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross testified
721
00:40:18,583 --> 00:40:20,784
on the 2020 Census at a House hearing today.
722
00:40:20,786 --> 00:40:23,052
Committee members questioned him about the decision
723
00:40:23,054 --> 00:40:25,889
to add a citizenship question to the form.
724
00:40:25,891 --> 00:40:28,425
Elijah Cummings:
Secretary Ross...
725
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,760
in fall of 2017,
726
00:40:30,762 --> 00:40:34,497
your staff hand-delivered
a secret memo
727
00:40:34,499 --> 00:40:38,768
about the citizenship question
to the Department of Justice.
728
00:40:38,770 --> 00:40:43,907
Did the secret memo describe
the real reason you wanted
729
00:40:43,909 --> 00:40:46,042
to add the citizenship question?
730
00:40:46,044 --> 00:40:48,645
I don't believe
there's anything in evidence
731
00:40:48,647 --> 00:40:53,116
that my staff delivered
a message of that sort.
732
00:40:53,118 --> 00:40:59,589
DOJ sought census citizenship
data for use
733
00:40:59,591 --> 00:41:02,425
in Voting Rights Act
enforcement.
734
00:41:02,427 --> 00:41:08,598
We intend to count as many people as possible...
735
00:41:08,934 --> 00:41:12,335
(upbeat music playing)
736
00:41:12,337 --> 00:41:13,870
How you doin'?
737
00:41:17,375 --> 00:41:19,108
When the secretary says, "I want accurate
738
00:41:19,110 --> 00:41:22,912
citizenship information," and they already have it...
739
00:41:22,914 --> 00:41:25,215
but he's ignoring that accurate information
740
00:41:25,217 --> 00:41:27,951
and instead putting a question on the census,
741
00:41:27,953 --> 00:41:30,253
well, it begs the question,
742
00:41:30,255 --> 00:41:31,387
why are you doing it?
743
00:41:31,389 --> 00:41:33,490
If you really want accurate
citizenship information,
744
00:41:33,492 --> 00:41:36,025
you'd go to the social
security administration.
745
00:41:36,027 --> 00:41:38,361
The fact that you're not
doing that
746
00:41:38,363 --> 00:41:40,430
suggests that it's a pretext.
747
00:41:40,432 --> 00:41:43,733
That you're not out to get the most accurate
748
00:41:43,735 --> 00:41:44,934
citizenship information,
749
00:41:44,936 --> 00:41:46,936
that you have some other goal in mind.
750
00:41:46,938 --> 00:41:48,905
Now, we think we know what that goal is.
751
00:41:48,907 --> 00:41:50,740
It's to scare
immigrant communities,
752
00:41:50,742 --> 00:41:53,376
reduce the participation
of noncitizens
753
00:41:53,378 --> 00:41:56,312
and people who have noncitizens
in their families
754
00:41:56,314 --> 00:41:58,047
from participating
in the census,
755
00:41:58,049 --> 00:42:00,016
and then ultimately use that information
756
00:42:00,018 --> 00:42:04,120
to cut those people out of the political process entirely.
757
00:42:06,625 --> 00:42:09,259
"Equal Justice Under Law."
758
00:42:11,763 --> 00:42:14,597
William Clay: Mr. Secretary,
you lied to Congress,
759
00:42:14,599 --> 00:42:19,002
you mislead the American people,
and you are complicit
760
00:42:19,004 --> 00:42:22,472
in the Trump administration's
intent to suppress
761
00:42:22,474 --> 00:42:28,344
the growing political power
of the nonwhite population.
762
00:42:28,346 --> 00:42:32,815
You have already done
great harm to Census 2020
763
00:42:32,817 --> 00:42:36,119
and you should,
in my opinion, resign.
764
00:42:36,121 --> 00:42:39,289
Is there a question
in that, sir?
765
00:42:39,691 --> 00:42:43,359
I still don't see
what it is that the...
766
00:42:43,361 --> 00:42:44,994
people need to be afraid of.
767
00:42:44,996 --> 00:42:46,896
You're being asked
"Are you a citizen?
768
00:42:46,898 --> 00:42:47,997
Are you not a citizen?"
769
00:42:47,999 --> 00:42:50,466
Seems like a reasonable thing
for the government to ask.
770
00:42:50,468 --> 00:42:53,136
(indistinct police
radio chatter)
771
00:42:53,138 --> 00:42:54,404
Commentator 1: For Latinos now
772
00:42:54,406 --> 00:42:55,905
who are in mixed-status families
773
00:42:55,907 --> 00:42:57,974
there is a real fear that if they respond in any way,
774
00:42:57,976 --> 00:43:00,843
the government might come back and use this information
775
00:43:00,845 --> 00:43:02,345
against them.
776
00:43:02,347 --> 00:43:04,080
There are at least two instances
777
00:43:04,082 --> 00:43:06,416
in history where they did
778
00:43:08,253 --> 00:43:09,886
Commentator 2:
During World War II,
779
00:43:09,888 --> 00:43:12,822
the federal government used census data
780
00:43:12,824 --> 00:43:17,427
to identify Japanese-American families...
781
00:43:17,562 --> 00:43:19,862
to send them to internment.
782
00:43:19,864 --> 00:43:24,067
(dramatic music playing)
783
00:43:32,477 --> 00:43:36,546
Ho: There is a little bit of reluctance sometimes
784
00:43:36,848 --> 00:43:37,914
for...
785
00:43:37,916 --> 00:43:42,118
civil rights advocates to
argue to conservatives that...
786
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:46,389
the person we're suing
had a discriminatory game plan
787
00:43:46,391 --> 00:43:48,791
in mind.
Had a discriminatory intent.
788
00:43:48,793 --> 00:43:53,062
Conservative judges are generally a little reluctant
789
00:43:53,064 --> 00:43:56,265
to say that someone intended to discriminate.
790
00:43:56,267 --> 00:44:00,203
So the advice we're getting is, "Don't bother trying
791
00:44:00,205 --> 00:44:01,671
to prove the real reason.
792
00:44:01,673 --> 00:44:05,441
Don't bother trying to win
the pretext argument
793
00:44:05,443 --> 00:44:07,810
on the merits.
It's important for the case,
794
00:44:07,812 --> 00:44:11,114
for the framing of the case.
But you don't need it to win.
795
00:44:11,116 --> 00:44:13,583
All you need to win is,
there's more accurate
796
00:44:13,585 --> 00:44:15,284
citizenship data
somewhere else.
797
00:44:15,286 --> 00:44:19,789
The secretary ignored that
advice from the Census Bureau,
798
00:44:19,791 --> 00:44:21,991
and that was unlawful."
799
00:44:23,628 --> 00:44:25,628
Crowd: (cheering)
800
00:44:26,831 --> 00:44:31,801
Trump: ICE is throwing them out
of our country by the thousands.
801
00:44:31,870 --> 00:44:34,070
"I am afraid for my life!
802
00:44:34,072 --> 00:44:37,974
I am afraid to go back
to my country!
803
00:44:38,543 --> 00:44:41,411
I want to be an American!"
804
00:44:41,746 --> 00:44:44,013
We don't want them
in our country,
805
00:44:44,015 --> 00:44:45,615
and they're not getting
into our country.
806
00:44:45,617 --> 00:44:48,818
And when they have in the past,
a lot of them have come in,
807
00:44:48,820 --> 00:44:51,220
we're throwing them
the hell out. They're out.
808
00:44:51,222 --> 00:44:54,590
-We're getting them out.
-(applause)
809
00:44:59,531 --> 00:45:02,632
Rachel Maddow: The AP has just broken some new news.
810
00:45:02,634 --> 00:45:06,335
This has just come out from the Associated Press.
811
00:45:07,939 --> 00:45:09,105
This is incredible.
812
00:45:09,107 --> 00:45:12,308
Trump Administration officials have been sending babies
813
00:45:12,310 --> 00:45:14,143
and other young children.
814
00:45:14,145 --> 00:45:17,013
Oh, hold on...
815
00:45:21,319 --> 00:45:23,786
to at least three...
816
00:45:27,092 --> 00:45:31,027
(breathing shakily) Can we put up the graphic of this?
817
00:45:31,563 --> 00:45:35,898
Three tender-age shelters in south Texas.
818
00:45:36,501 --> 00:45:39,869
(dramatic music playing)
819
00:45:42,474 --> 00:45:44,307
-Woman: Families!
-Crowd: United!
820
00:45:44,309 --> 00:45:46,309
-Woman: Families!
-Crowd: United!
821
00:45:46,311 --> 00:45:48,911
-Woman: Families!
-Crowd: United!
822
00:45:48,913 --> 00:45:50,546
(crowd chanting)
823
00:45:50,548 --> 00:45:53,249
Crowd: Free our children now!
824
00:45:53,251 --> 00:45:55,284
Crowd: Free our children now!
825
00:45:55,286 --> 00:45:59,055
(indistinct chatter)
826
00:45:59,057 --> 00:46:02,024
(crowd chanting)
827
00:46:02,527 --> 00:46:05,094
News Anchor: Nearly 2,000 children have been separated
828
00:46:05,096 --> 00:46:07,430
from their families between April and May.
829
00:46:07,432 --> 00:46:10,500
Immigrants, Latinos and all of us,
830
00:46:10,502 --> 00:46:11,501
are targets.
831
00:46:11,503 --> 00:46:13,102
Gelernt: The people who are being separated
832
00:46:13,104 --> 00:46:14,737
from their kids pass the government's
833
00:46:14,739 --> 00:46:16,906
own asylum-screening interviews.
834
00:46:16,908 --> 00:46:18,474
They're bonafide asylum seekers.
835
00:46:18,476 --> 00:46:21,043
They're still having their children ripped away.
836
00:46:21,045 --> 00:46:22,645
Like it or not, these aren't our kids.
837
00:46:22,647 --> 00:46:25,848
It's not like he's doing this to the people of Idaho
838
00:46:25,850 --> 00:46:26,816
or, uh, Texas.
839
00:46:26,818 --> 00:46:28,584
These are people from another country.
840
00:46:28,586 --> 00:46:32,388
News Anchor:
(speaking Spanish)
841
00:46:34,692 --> 00:46:37,226
Gelernt: The medical evidence is overwhelming
842
00:46:37,228 --> 00:46:40,930
that we may be doing permanent trauma to these kids.
843
00:46:40,932 --> 00:46:44,000
(dramatic music playing)
844
00:47:04,389 --> 00:47:06,923
Gelernt: In your hometown,
in Guatemala
845
00:47:06,925 --> 00:47:10,259
were there other families
that had their children
846
00:47:10,261 --> 00:47:11,761
taken away?
847
00:47:11,830 --> 00:47:16,699
Raul: (speaking Spanish)
848
00:47:30,114 --> 00:47:33,783
(dramatic music playing)
849
00:47:38,523 --> 00:47:42,458
Raul: (speaking Spanish)
850
00:48:47,392 --> 00:48:49,625
Gelernt: The government
has a fair amount
851
00:48:49,627 --> 00:48:51,327
of technical arguments.
852
00:48:51,329 --> 00:48:54,764
My job is gonna be to make sure the horror
853
00:48:54,766 --> 00:48:59,602
of what's going on really stays front and center.
854
00:49:01,572 --> 00:49:04,507
For me, you know,
just thinking about my own kids,
855
00:49:04,509 --> 00:49:08,945
it's just...
It's inconceivable...
856
00:49:10,048 --> 00:49:11,314
that this could be happening,
857
00:49:11,316 --> 00:49:16,585
and that I don't-- You know,
I'd be going out of my mind.
858
00:49:17,288 --> 00:49:21,023
(dramatic music playing)
859
00:49:27,498 --> 00:49:30,700
David Cole: There's a kind of cyclical nature to the work
860
00:49:30,702 --> 00:49:33,502
of a civil liberties organization.
861
00:49:40,611 --> 00:49:42,345
It's always one step forward,
862
00:49:42,347 --> 00:49:44,313
two steps back.
863
00:49:45,016 --> 00:49:47,683
You're not gonna win every fight.
864
00:49:48,386 --> 00:49:50,853
Romero: Our first same-sex marriage case,
865
00:49:50,855 --> 00:49:54,023
two guys walked into a local office in Minnesota
866
00:49:54,025 --> 00:49:55,191
and said "We wanna get married.
867
00:49:55,193 --> 00:49:59,395
For 44 years, we stayed on that.
868
00:50:00,465 --> 00:50:04,800
We defend
civil liberties for all.
869
00:50:05,269 --> 00:50:08,871
And not everybody at the ACLU agrees.
870
00:50:11,676 --> 00:50:15,211
Not everybody in the United States agrees.
871
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:20,383
The promise of a right is that anyone can,
872
00:50:20,385 --> 00:50:22,518
uh, exercise the right.
873
00:50:22,687 --> 00:50:26,188
It's not a right for the people you agree with,
874
00:50:26,190 --> 00:50:28,691
it's a right for everybody.
875
00:50:30,161 --> 00:50:32,828
(indistinct chatter)
876
00:50:34,766 --> 00:50:36,932
Man: You're gonna get
your spacing once
877
00:50:36,934 --> 00:50:38,000
when you get up there.
878
00:50:38,002 --> 00:50:40,870
Get your torches lit
and get in your columns.
879
00:50:40,872 --> 00:50:43,239
Uh, white nationalists
are getting ready to march
880
00:50:43,241 --> 00:50:44,540
in Charlottesville, Virginia
881
00:50:44,542 --> 00:50:47,910
Crowd: Jews! Will not! Replace us!
882
00:50:47,912 --> 00:50:50,913
Jews! Will not! Replace us!
883
00:50:50,915 --> 00:50:54,383
-Jews! Will not! Replace us!
-Man: Get in the oven!
884
00:50:54,385 --> 00:50:58,187
Crowd: Jews! Will not! Replace us!
885
00:50:58,189 --> 00:51:00,423
Jews! Will not! Replace us!
886
00:51:00,425 --> 00:51:03,459
If the ACLU
was not successful today
887
00:51:03,461 --> 00:51:06,295
and the Charlottesville City
Government was allowed
888
00:51:06,297 --> 00:51:08,864
to deny us our constitutional
First Amendment rights,
889
00:51:08,866 --> 00:51:12,635
we might be in a different
situation than we are today.
890
00:51:12,637 --> 00:51:15,538
Journalist: It's a melding
of white nationalists, Klan,
891
00:51:15,540 --> 00:51:18,607
fascists all mixing together
and uniting.
892
00:51:18,609 --> 00:51:20,676
Uh-oh. It looks like
a small group
893
00:51:20,678 --> 00:51:22,611
of counter-demonstrators
has surrounded
894
00:51:22,613 --> 00:51:24,246
the Robert E. Lee Memorial.
895
00:51:24,248 --> 00:51:27,950
Crowd: No Nazis! No KKK! No fascist USA!
896
00:51:27,952 --> 00:51:29,885
Man: Move, bitch!
897
00:51:30,588 --> 00:51:32,488
Crowd: White lives matter!
898
00:51:32,490 --> 00:51:33,622
White lives matter!
899
00:51:33,624 --> 00:51:37,126
White lives matter! White lives matter!
900
00:51:42,166 --> 00:51:43,099
Man: Hail Trump!
901
00:51:43,101 --> 00:51:46,068
Duke: We are determined
to take our country back.
902
00:51:46,070 --> 00:51:49,972
We're gonna fulfill the promises
of Donald Trump
903
00:51:50,241 --> 00:51:52,875
(indistinct yelling)
904
00:52:01,052 --> 00:52:03,085
Man: Oh, my God!
Oh, my God.
905
00:52:03,087 --> 00:52:05,788
Oh my God. Holy...
906
00:52:06,257 --> 00:52:08,424
Go, go, go.
907
00:52:11,596 --> 00:52:13,395
Woman: Holy shit!
908
00:52:13,397 --> 00:52:17,800
Holy shit! Holy...
909
00:52:24,509 --> 00:52:26,909
I think there were all kinds
of discussions,
910
00:52:26,911 --> 00:52:29,845
both formal and informal
that went on
911
00:52:29,847 --> 00:52:33,249
within the organization
after this happened.
912
00:52:33,251 --> 00:52:36,385
There were people
that were badly, badly hurt,
913
00:52:36,387 --> 00:52:38,954
and there was somebody
who was killed.
914
00:52:38,956 --> 00:52:42,458
And our name was attached
to the event.
915
00:52:42,460 --> 00:52:46,962
The ACLU was not responsible
for Heather Heyer's death.
916
00:52:46,964 --> 00:52:49,532
But we were not a random organization
917
00:52:49,534 --> 00:52:52,935
just out there watching what happened.
918
00:52:52,937 --> 00:52:55,004
We have a policy
of defending those
919
00:52:55,006 --> 00:52:57,873
who, with whom we disagree,
including white supremacists,
920
00:52:57,875 --> 00:53:02,077
including the alt-right,
and we will continue to do so.
921
00:53:02,847 --> 00:53:06,515
(dramatic music playing)
922
00:53:10,321 --> 00:53:13,222
Jeffery Robinson: The calculus isn't just as simple as,
923
00:53:13,224 --> 00:53:16,659
"Oh this is a First Amendment issue."
924
00:53:19,430 --> 00:53:22,198
This ain't Skokie, Illinois.
925
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:27,336
This isn't a handful of neo-Nazis
926
00:53:27,338 --> 00:53:30,039
who don't have weapons...
927
00:53:30,241 --> 00:53:31,674
and who don't have a president
928
00:53:31,676 --> 00:53:36,512
in the White House
spewing openly racist stuff.
929
00:53:36,514 --> 00:53:41,217
Trump: You had people, very fine people, on both sides.
930
00:53:41,219 --> 00:53:42,952
You had a lot of people
in that group
931
00:53:42,954 --> 00:53:45,387
that were there
to innocently protest
932
00:53:45,389 --> 00:53:46,488
and very legally protest--
933
00:53:46,490 --> 00:53:48,757
because,
I don't know if you know,
934
00:53:48,759 --> 00:53:49,758
they had a permit.
935
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:51,527
The other group
didn't have a permit.
936
00:53:51,529 --> 00:53:52,695
Well I would say, you know,
937
00:53:52,697 --> 00:53:54,396
the fact that President Trump
is in office
938
00:53:54,398 --> 00:53:58,033
and that we have someone
who is a racist in power
939
00:53:58,035 --> 00:54:00,936
only underscores
why you would not want to give
940
00:54:00,938 --> 00:54:06,175
government officials the power
to silence those whose views
941
00:54:06,177 --> 00:54:07,243
they disagree with.
942
00:54:07,245 --> 00:54:09,245
President Trump
is not gonna silence
943
00:54:09,247 --> 00:54:10,312
the white supremacists.
944
00:54:10,314 --> 00:54:13,015
Who's he gonna silence
if you give him that power?
945
00:54:13,017 --> 00:54:15,618
I disagree with the decision.
946
00:54:15,620 --> 00:54:18,988
That doesn't mean
I don't respect the decision.
947
00:54:18,990 --> 00:54:21,190
I just disagree with it.
948
00:54:21,826 --> 00:54:24,760
News Anchor: A horrific scene in Charlottesville, Virginia.
949
00:54:24,762 --> 00:54:28,664
A white nationalist rally that descended into deadly
950
00:54:28,666 --> 00:54:30,032
violence and chaos.
951
00:54:30,034 --> 00:54:31,300
The images just coming in.
952
00:54:31,302 --> 00:54:34,570
A car plowing into a crowd of demonstrators protesting
953
00:54:34,572 --> 00:54:36,238
against those white nationalists.
954
00:54:36,240 --> 00:54:41,443
A 32-year-old woman killed. A number of severe injuries,
955
00:54:41,445 --> 00:54:42,544
many life-threatening.
956
00:54:42,546 --> 00:54:44,546
A driver has been taken into custody.
957
00:54:44,548 --> 00:54:46,882
On the streets of Charlottesville today,
958
00:54:46,884 --> 00:54:48,350
the hate boiling over.
959
00:54:48,352 --> 00:54:51,320
White supremacists and counter-protestors
960
00:54:51,322 --> 00:54:53,122
fighting with fists and clubs.
961
00:54:53,124 --> 00:54:54,757
Confederate flags on...
962
00:54:54,759 --> 00:54:57,826
(dramatic music playing)
963
00:55:13,077 --> 00:55:16,111
Amiri: People say "Why don't you go work at a law firm
964
00:55:16,113 --> 00:55:19,481
and don't have this level of stress riding
965
00:55:19,483 --> 00:55:22,351
on your shoulders?"
966
00:55:24,055 --> 00:55:27,323
It takes its toll on your personal relationships
967
00:55:27,325 --> 00:55:29,491
and on your family.
968
00:55:29,493 --> 00:55:30,859
(laughs)
969
00:55:30,861 --> 00:55:32,995
Did you wear your cape all day?
970
00:55:33,564 --> 00:55:36,765
News Anchor: We begin with a decision that will impact
971
00:55:36,767 --> 00:55:38,767
the nation for decades.
972
00:55:38,769 --> 00:55:41,337
Justice Anthony Kennedy announced Wednesday
973
00:55:41,339 --> 00:55:43,572
he will retire after three decades
974
00:55:43,574 --> 00:55:45,240
on the Supreme Court.
975
00:55:45,242 --> 00:55:46,342
The 81 year old...
976
00:55:46,344 --> 00:55:49,278
Amiri: I got a New York Times
alert on my phone.
977
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:52,681
And my daughter heard me gasp.
978
00:55:52,683 --> 00:55:55,384
And said "Mommy!
What's wrong? What's wrong?"
979
00:55:55,386 --> 00:56:00,189
And I said, "Justice Kennedy
announced his retirement."
980
00:56:00,191 --> 00:56:03,125
And she said,
"Well, what does that mean?"
981
00:56:03,127 --> 00:56:07,062
And I said, "Mommy's job
just got a lot harder."
982
00:56:07,064 --> 00:56:11,266
His decision to retire
from the court is game-changing
983
00:56:11,268 --> 00:56:14,603
on critical cases
involving civil liberties,
984
00:56:14,605 --> 00:56:19,341
LGBT rights, the death penalty,
affirmative action.
985
00:56:19,343 --> 00:56:22,077
Man: Do you think that Kennedy's retirement
986
00:56:22,079 --> 00:56:24,179
puts Roe v. Wade in question?
987
00:56:24,181 --> 00:56:26,849
It absolutely calls
it into question.
988
00:56:26,851 --> 00:56:28,817
You have four justices
on the Court
989
00:56:28,819 --> 00:56:32,621
who are very hostile
to abortion rights.
990
00:56:32,623 --> 00:56:34,790
Any of the debate
around the nominee
991
00:56:34,792 --> 00:56:38,227
has everything to do with
whom is nominated.
992
00:56:38,229 --> 00:56:41,630
And Judge Kavanaugh
is on the shortlist for
993
00:56:41,632 --> 00:56:42,765
Trump's appointments.
994
00:56:42,767 --> 00:56:45,968
I argued in front of him on the emergency appeal
995
00:56:45,970 --> 00:56:47,035
for Jane Doe.
996
00:56:47,037 --> 00:56:49,171
He punted and said, "I'll allow the government
997
00:56:49,173 --> 00:56:51,373
more time with the case."
998
00:56:51,742 --> 00:56:53,442
Richard Blumenthal:
Under Texas law,
999
00:56:53,444 --> 00:56:56,478
she was eligible for an abortion.
1000
00:56:56,480 --> 00:57:03,185
The pregnancy was four weeks
further when you upheld...
1001
00:57:03,254 --> 00:57:06,955
the Trump administration
in blocking her efforts
1002
00:57:06,957 --> 00:57:09,358
to terminate her pregnancy.
1003
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,760
The decision of that panel was overruled.
1004
00:57:11,762 --> 00:57:14,196
Sullivan: Has Kavanaugh
never ruled
1005
00:57:14,198 --> 00:57:16,532
-on any other abortion?
-Only Jane Doe.
1006
00:57:16,534 --> 00:57:18,734
Sullivan: Only Jane Doe,
that was the only one ever?
1007
00:57:18,736 --> 00:57:20,569
Only abortion case.
He said something like,
1008
00:57:20,571 --> 00:57:22,237
"Roe v. Wade is precedent
1009
00:57:22,239 --> 00:57:23,839
and I would be bound
by precedent."
1010
00:57:23,841 --> 00:57:26,408
Doesn't apply
when he's in the Supreme Court.
1011
00:57:26,410 --> 00:57:27,876
Once he gets to the high court--
1012
00:57:27,878 --> 00:57:29,244
Then he can create
new precedent.
1013
00:57:29,246 --> 00:57:32,147
Amiri: Exactly!
He gets to make the precedent.
1014
00:57:32,149 --> 00:57:34,149
I wanna talk about a list.
1015
00:57:34,151 --> 00:57:37,486
Uh, it's the list
that Donald Trump circulated
1016
00:57:37,488 --> 00:57:41,957
of his potential
Supreme Court nominees.
1017
00:57:41,959 --> 00:57:44,860
His litmus test for that list...
1018
00:57:44,862 --> 00:57:47,863
was that a justice
that he'd nominate
1019
00:57:47,865 --> 00:57:53,335
would have to automatically
overturn Roe v. Wade, correct?
1020
00:57:53,704 --> 00:57:55,237
(clears throat)
I'm not gonna comment
1021
00:57:55,239 --> 00:57:57,339
on what he said.
Whatever he had said publicly--
1022
00:57:57,341 --> 00:57:59,308
-Well he said it
-Yeah.
1023
00:57:59,310 --> 00:58:04,079
(dramatic music playing)
1024
00:58:04,281 --> 00:58:07,716
Amiri: Earlier this week, we got multiple anonymous tips
1025
00:58:07,718 --> 00:58:10,185
that there were two more Jane Does.
1026
00:58:10,187 --> 00:58:13,288
-Wow.
-Woman: It just-- It never ends.
1027
00:58:13,290 --> 00:58:14,223
No. It doesn't.
1028
00:58:14,225 --> 00:58:16,959
It's shocking that the federal government
1029
00:58:16,961 --> 00:58:18,760
continues to do this
despite the fact
1030
00:58:18,762 --> 00:58:21,196
that we had a clear victory
for Jane Doe.
1031
00:58:21,198 --> 00:58:23,966
All right, so you have the Word
version and the PDF version.
1032
00:58:23,968 --> 00:58:25,634
-Yeah.
-Amiri: Do you wanna open it
1033
00:58:25,636 --> 00:58:26,869
and we'll scroll through it.
1034
00:58:26,871 --> 00:58:29,371
Late last night, we filed our motion to proceed
1035
00:58:29,373 --> 00:58:32,307
as a class action
on behalf of anyone
1036
00:58:32,309 --> 00:58:37,112
who is pregnant
in O.R.R. custody.
1037
00:58:38,482 --> 00:58:42,351
We are scrambling as quickly as we can.
1038
00:58:43,754 --> 00:58:47,055
I've always believed that the Trump administration
1039
00:58:47,057 --> 00:58:52,895
would try to do to everyone what they did to Jane Doe.
1040
00:59:02,273 --> 00:59:05,440
Noah Strangio: Were those actual
screen grabs of tweets?
1041
00:59:05,442 --> 00:59:07,309
Yeah we're putting
the screen grabs--
1042
00:59:07,311 --> 00:59:08,477
This is the new way to litigate.
1043
00:59:08,479 --> 00:59:10,712
So do you fix the typos
or just leave them as-is?
1044
00:59:10,714 --> 00:59:13,282
No-- Yeah, we just
leave the typos.
1045
00:59:13,284 --> 00:59:14,816
You're dialed-in right now.
1046
00:59:14,818 --> 00:59:15,817
No, I'm not. I'm just--
1047
00:59:15,819 --> 00:59:17,686
I just have to send one thing.
Um...
1048
00:59:17,688 --> 00:59:23,692
Because the court has to assign
it to a division in the morning
1049
00:59:23,694 --> 00:59:25,494
-and...
-I also feel like me perusing...
1050
00:59:25,496 --> 00:59:27,195
-Yeah.
-...what you're working on
1051
00:59:27,197 --> 00:59:28,330
and acting like I understand it.
1052
00:59:28,332 --> 00:59:30,132
And also,
you shouldn't look at it.
1053
00:59:30,134 --> 00:59:31,433
-Okay.
-Even though Dad
1054
00:59:31,435 --> 00:59:32,434
already tried to.
1055
00:59:32,436 --> 00:59:34,937
I actually had a moment
where I was like,
1056
00:59:34,939 --> 00:59:38,373
"Is dad gonna try
to take these and do something?
1057
00:59:38,375 --> 00:59:42,511
-Like, send them to Brietbart?"
-Noah: ACLU strikes again!
1058
00:59:42,513 --> 00:59:43,879
(laughter)
1059
00:59:43,881 --> 00:59:46,081
When I served,
my units were super diverse.
1060
00:59:46,083 --> 00:59:48,016
We had people
who were not American citizens
1061
00:59:48,018 --> 00:59:50,118
who specifically joined
to be a part of the country.
1062
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:52,721
-Do you want water?
-Noah: Yeah, I'll take it.
1063
00:59:52,723 --> 00:59:57,259
It does represent what I believe
much of what's best of America.
1064
00:59:57,261 --> 00:59:59,361
Chase and I don't always
agree politically,
1065
00:59:59,363 --> 01:00:02,664
and all of that aside,
a broad-brush ban
1066
01:00:02,666 --> 01:00:04,800
on a certain segment
of the population
1067
01:00:04,802 --> 01:00:06,635
not being allowed
to serve their country,
1068
01:00:06,637 --> 01:00:09,571
which to me is so antithetical
to everything the military
1069
01:00:09,573 --> 01:00:12,107
is supposed to represent.
1070
01:00:12,109 --> 01:00:15,911
(indistinct chatter)
1071
01:00:27,758 --> 01:00:29,424
Open Word.
1072
01:00:33,364 --> 01:00:34,963
Open Word!
1073
01:00:35,566 --> 01:00:37,332
Start listening.
1074
01:00:37,501 --> 01:00:40,669
President Trump has issued
a formal memorandum
1075
01:00:40,671 --> 01:00:45,374
with three binding directives
that explicitly overturn
1076
01:00:45,376 --> 01:00:49,311
pre-existing military policy.
Period.
1077
01:00:50,247 --> 01:00:52,614
In all three cases,
the president didn't wait
1078
01:00:52,616 --> 01:00:54,416
for some further study
to be completed.
1079
01:00:54,418 --> 01:00:57,819
He changed the policy first
and then ordered
1080
01:00:57,821 --> 01:01:01,289
additional study after the fact.
Period.
1081
01:01:01,291 --> 01:01:03,258
New paragraph.
1082
01:01:05,429 --> 01:01:06,828
No.
1083
01:01:13,704 --> 01:01:15,704
Stop listening.
1084
01:01:15,773 --> 01:01:19,675
(indistinct chatter)
1085
01:01:21,879 --> 01:01:24,112
Producer:
Can you explain what a moot is?
1086
01:01:24,114 --> 01:01:27,783
Ho: A moot is a practice
oral argument session.
1087
01:01:27,785 --> 01:01:30,686
Colleagues and sometimes friends
from outside the organization,
1088
01:01:30,688 --> 01:01:33,955
co-counsel, play the role
of judges, and just pepper
1089
01:01:33,957 --> 01:01:36,725
that person with questions.
1090
01:01:37,094 --> 01:01:39,995
Man:
There's no moot pump-up music?
1091
01:01:39,997 --> 01:01:41,630
No, not for moots.
1092
01:01:41,632 --> 01:01:44,800
For the actual argument itself,
I think.
1093
01:01:44,802 --> 01:01:50,605
Although I have been playing it
on repeat in my head, um,
1094
01:01:50,607 --> 01:01:53,341
Tom Petty's "I Won't Back Down".
1095
01:01:55,012 --> 01:01:55,977
Shall we?
1096
01:01:55,979 --> 01:01:57,746
(upbeat music playing)
1097
01:01:57,748 --> 01:02:01,016
Amiri: Kendall was supposed
to find a podium.
1098
01:02:19,236 --> 01:02:21,236
We put the brief
in three days ago,
1099
01:02:21,238 --> 01:02:24,039
so, just... (chuckles) Uh...
1100
01:02:25,242 --> 01:02:26,608
I'll do my best.
1101
01:02:26,610 --> 01:02:28,977
Woman: Okay, counselor, what relief
1102
01:02:28,979 --> 01:02:30,078
are you asking for?
1103
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:31,680
Your Honor,
we are asking that the children
1104
01:02:31,682 --> 01:02:35,784
who have been separated already
be reunited with their parents.
1105
01:02:35,786 --> 01:02:39,187
Ho: The courts have held
that an agency must fully
1106
01:02:39,189 --> 01:02:42,858
and accurately set forth
the methods
1107
01:02:42,860 --> 01:02:44,960
by which it has chosen to act.
1108
01:02:44,962 --> 01:02:47,028
The president said
we need to ban this
1109
01:02:47,030 --> 01:02:49,064
because of the tremendous cost.
1110
01:02:49,066 --> 01:02:50,699
The amount of money
the military pays
1111
01:02:50,701 --> 01:02:53,835
to treat erectile dysfunction
dwarfs the amount of money
1112
01:02:53,837 --> 01:02:56,004
it pays to treat
gender dysphoria.
1113
01:02:56,006 --> 01:02:58,006
The government has taken
the position that
1114
01:02:58,008 --> 01:03:00,342
only sponsorship
or voluntary departure
1115
01:03:00,344 --> 01:03:02,377
are the mechanisms
for accessing abortion.
1116
01:03:02,379 --> 01:03:06,348
But those, uh, mechanisms
are completely outside
1117
01:03:06,350 --> 01:03:07,616
of the minors' control.
1118
01:03:07,618 --> 01:03:09,584
One thing I think that bears,
1119
01:03:09,586 --> 01:03:15,123
uh, mentioning, that's not in,
um, our, uh...
1120
01:03:15,392 --> 01:03:17,292
co-plaintiff's brief...
1121
01:03:17,294 --> 01:03:20,929
That's not how I wanna put this.
Um, wha...
1122
01:03:21,398 --> 01:03:22,864
I'm having some issues today.
1123
01:03:22,866 --> 01:03:24,065
Man: The government says
that all
1124
01:03:24,067 --> 01:03:26,234
of its detention choices
are discretionary
1125
01:03:26,236 --> 01:03:28,170
and that therefore,
I can't review it.
1126
01:03:28,172 --> 01:03:30,739
Right, Your Honor,
but that's wrong, Your Honor.
1127
01:03:30,741 --> 01:03:33,975
Due process
always constrains discretion.
1128
01:03:33,977 --> 01:03:36,244
Ho: Six states face
a substantial risk of losing
1129
01:03:36,246 --> 01:03:40,582
a seat in Congress.
California, New York, Texas,
1130
01:03:40,584 --> 01:03:42,284
Florida, Arizona, and Illinois.
1131
01:03:42,286 --> 01:03:45,120
Woman: We've got somebody
who identifies as male
1132
01:03:45,122 --> 01:03:46,454
and has female genitalia.
1133
01:03:46,456 --> 01:03:49,724
Why does the military
have to deal with all that?
1134
01:03:49,726 --> 01:03:53,929
Gelernt: We have to make him
feel like he cannot sign off
1135
01:03:53,931 --> 01:03:57,899
on these little kids
sitting all by themselves.
1136
01:03:57,901 --> 01:04:01,236
He has to have a mental picture
of these kids.
1137
01:04:01,238 --> 01:04:02,771
Man: Do you think
that you have a way
1138
01:04:02,773 --> 01:04:06,575
to making a pretext argument
that's about discrimination?
1139
01:04:06,577 --> 01:04:10,812
(upbeat music playing)
1140
01:04:15,018 --> 01:04:17,519
The United States Supreme Court has made a decision
1141
01:04:17,521 --> 01:04:20,021
that they will hear President Trump's
1142
01:04:20,023 --> 01:04:21,690
-travel ban case.
-News Anchor 1: Tonight,
1143
01:04:21,692 --> 01:04:25,260
the President's original travel ban's long and legal limbo
1144
01:04:25,262 --> 01:04:28,463
is catching a break because of the new version
1145
01:04:28,465 --> 01:04:29,397
just unveiled.
1146
01:04:29,399 --> 01:04:30,932
News Anchor 2:
The Trump administration
1147
01:04:30,934 --> 01:04:32,901
is replacing its controversial travel ban with, quote,
1148
01:04:32,903 --> 01:04:34,269
"tailored travel restrictions".
1149
01:04:34,271 --> 01:04:36,838
News Anchor 3: The latest version removes Sudan
1150
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:40,642
and adds Chad, Venezuela, and North Korea.
1151
01:04:40,644 --> 01:04:43,678
Remember this,
I wasn't thrilled.
1152
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:46,581
But the lawyers all said,
"Oh, let's tailor it."
1153
01:04:46,583 --> 01:04:50,685
This is a watered-down version
of the first one.
1154
01:04:50,687 --> 01:04:52,921
This is a watered-down version.
1155
01:04:52,923 --> 01:04:55,824
And let me tell you something,
I think we ought to go back
1156
01:04:55,826 --> 01:04:57,292
to the first one
and go all the way,
1157
01:04:57,294 --> 01:05:00,028
which is what I wanted to do
in the first place.
1158
01:05:00,030 --> 01:05:01,730
Crowd: (cheering)
1159
01:05:01,732 --> 01:05:06,034
(dramatic music playing)
1160
01:05:07,337 --> 01:05:09,070
Gelernt: Just one thing after another.
1161
01:05:09,072 --> 01:05:11,740
I mean, right tomorrow, we have a big hearing
1162
01:05:11,742 --> 01:05:13,008
on family separation.
1163
01:05:13,010 --> 01:05:17,545
We have two briefs due...
(sniffs) Monday at 3:00 pm
1164
01:05:17,547 --> 01:05:21,483
in the Supreme Court
in the Muslim ban litigation.
1165
01:05:21,485 --> 01:05:24,586
The government has asked
the Supreme Court
1166
01:05:24,588 --> 01:05:28,556
to let it go
into effect immediately.
1167
01:05:29,259 --> 01:05:33,528
It's another Saturday here
at the ACLU.
1168
01:05:33,530 --> 01:05:36,064
Producer: It's your son's
birthday too, right?
1169
01:05:36,066 --> 01:05:39,067
Gelernt:
It is my son's birthday.
1170
01:05:40,971 --> 01:05:44,973
(dramatic music playing)
1171
01:05:44,975 --> 01:05:47,909
Gelernt:
Just looking at the city...
1172
01:05:48,045 --> 01:05:51,846
through sort of blurry eyes,
late at night.
1173
01:05:51,848 --> 01:05:54,883
I just-- I never
get tired of it.
1174
01:05:55,485 --> 01:06:00,889
We could hear literally any time
from, I think, tomorrow night
1175
01:06:00,891 --> 01:06:03,658
to the end of June
of whether the Supreme Court
1176
01:06:03,660 --> 01:06:08,630
is gonna allow the ban
to go into effect.
1177
01:06:10,834 --> 01:06:13,201
Producer: Anything goin' down?
1178
01:06:13,870 --> 01:06:15,437
No decision.
1179
01:06:17,474 --> 01:06:20,342
Woman: Here you are.
1180
01:06:27,417 --> 01:06:31,019
Technician: If you could
talk to us through the mic.
1181
01:06:32,089 --> 01:06:34,956
We'll cue you
through this earpiece...
1182
01:06:34,958 --> 01:06:38,226
and you'll be able
to hear the show.
1183
01:06:40,497 --> 01:06:44,132
So Lee, you can go ahead
and have a seat. Um...
1184
01:06:44,134 --> 01:06:45,133
Gelernt: Am I on?
1185
01:06:45,135 --> 01:06:46,568
No, we're waiting
for the travel ban.
1186
01:06:46,570 --> 01:06:48,069
Producer:
You're gonna be standing by.
1187
01:06:48,071 --> 01:06:50,171
-Gelernt: This one?
-Producer: Yeah. This one.
1188
01:06:50,173 --> 01:06:52,474
Could my chair be closer?
1189
01:06:55,445 --> 01:06:56,745
Tell me when.
1190
01:06:56,747 --> 01:06:58,880
Good. Thanks.
1191
01:06:59,249 --> 01:07:01,683
This fell out also.
1192
01:07:03,553 --> 01:07:06,254
-You don't hear anything?
-Nope.
1193
01:07:06,390 --> 01:07:07,589
Producer: Do you hear it now?
1194
01:07:07,591 --> 01:07:09,324
Reporter:
The Attorney General saying...
1195
01:07:09,326 --> 01:07:10,325
Gelernt: Yeah, now.
1196
01:07:10,327 --> 01:07:11,760
Producer:
Is it a good level or...?
1197
01:07:11,762 --> 01:07:13,294
-I need it a little louder.
-Yeah, sure.
1198
01:07:13,296 --> 01:07:14,863
Reporter:
The bottom line, you still have
1199
01:07:14,865 --> 01:07:16,898
more than 2,000 kids who haven't been reunited
1200
01:07:16,900 --> 01:07:18,767
-with their families...
-Technician: Lee,
1201
01:07:18,769 --> 01:07:20,001
you're on in five minutes.
1202
01:07:20,003 --> 01:07:22,137
...top of the show, which is our first look,
1203
01:07:22,139 --> 01:07:23,371
now, inside one of these
1204
01:07:23,373 --> 01:07:25,140
detention facilities holding unaccompanied kids.
1205
01:07:25,142 --> 01:07:26,741
-This one is in New York.
-(clears throat)
1206
01:07:26,743 --> 01:07:28,843
News Anchor: Apparently a workerinside one of these facilities
1207
01:07:28,845 --> 01:07:31,179
in New York handed over some of this video...
1208
01:07:31,181 --> 01:07:33,381
Technician: Four minutes, Lee.
1209
01:07:34,251 --> 01:07:35,550
We have breaking news now.
1210
01:07:35,552 --> 01:07:37,218
The Supreme Court has now come down
1211
01:07:37,220 --> 01:07:39,821
on its ruling today regarding one of the most
1212
01:07:39,823 --> 01:07:41,289
anticipated cases of the term.
1213
01:07:41,291 --> 01:07:42,690
We're talking about
Trump v. Hawaii,
1214
01:07:42,692 --> 01:07:45,894
also known as the president's travel ban case.
1215
01:07:45,896 --> 01:07:50,098
What happened, Maya?
It came down.
1216
01:07:50,100 --> 01:07:51,066
Maya: It did?
1217
01:07:51,068 --> 01:07:52,801
The decision says that President Trump wins.
1218
01:07:52,803 --> 01:07:55,837
The Supreme Court has upheld the president's travel ban.
1219
01:07:55,839 --> 01:07:58,807
This is the third version of the attempt to restrict
1220
01:07:58,809 --> 01:08:01,242
travel from mostly Muslim countries
1221
01:08:01,244 --> 01:08:03,111
after the first two were struck down.
1222
01:08:03,113 --> 01:08:04,379
Technician: Three minutes.
1223
01:08:04,381 --> 01:08:06,948
I can't go on right away.
I need to look at the opinion.
1224
01:08:06,950 --> 01:08:09,717
Can you give me
five more minutes?
1225
01:08:09,719 --> 01:08:10,952
Hey, I need Omar really quickly.
1226
01:08:10,954 --> 01:08:15,123
What's his cell phone number?
What's his cell phone number?
1227
01:08:15,525 --> 01:08:16,724
Pen!
1228
01:08:16,726 --> 01:08:18,760
I'm about to go on live
on MSNBC
1229
01:08:18,762 --> 01:08:20,728
'cause I was here
for family separation.
1230
01:08:20,730 --> 01:08:25,366
It's basically
just a straight-out loss, right?
1231
01:08:25,368 --> 01:08:28,736
(dramatic music playing)
1232
01:08:30,507 --> 01:08:32,607
Reporter: ...justice prior announced his dissent
1233
01:08:32,609 --> 01:08:35,143
in that case, too. So, he is dissenting...
1234
01:08:35,145 --> 01:08:36,578
Though the government remains...
1235
01:08:36,580 --> 01:08:37,779
Technician: Sixty seconds.
1236
01:08:37,781 --> 01:08:40,048
Hey, Omar, I gotta go on
in like two minutes.
1237
01:08:40,050 --> 01:08:42,383
I'm just gonna denounce it,
but I just wanna say
1238
01:08:42,385 --> 01:08:44,252
we're gonna evaluate the opinion
to see...
1239
01:08:44,254 --> 01:08:46,421
Woman: Lee, we're ready for you now.
1240
01:08:46,423 --> 01:08:48,389
I'll be 30 seconds.
Okay, cool.
1241
01:08:48,391 --> 01:08:50,158
Thanks, Omar. Ready now.
1242
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:52,393
I wanna bring in, I believe we have Lee Gelernt
1243
01:08:52,395 --> 01:08:54,429
with the ACLU. Lee, if you're with us,
1244
01:08:54,431 --> 01:08:55,497
what is your reaction?
1245
01:08:55,499 --> 01:08:58,633
It's obviously very bad.
We're very disappointed.
1246
01:08:58,635 --> 01:09:00,368
We believe that it was no question
1247
01:09:00,370 --> 01:09:04,105
that this was a Muslim ban,
and so we really regret
1248
01:09:04,107 --> 01:09:06,574
that this came out this way.
(clears throat)
1249
01:09:06,576 --> 01:09:08,042
News Anchor:
I wanna let you know
1250
01:09:08,044 --> 01:09:09,644
we are hearing now for the first time
1251
01:09:09,646 --> 01:09:11,279
from President Trump and, yes, it is coming
1252
01:09:11,281 --> 01:09:13,414
from his Twitter account in all-caps, writing,
1253
01:09:13,416 --> 01:09:17,018
"Supreme Court upholds Trump travel ban. Wow!"
1254
01:09:17,020 --> 01:09:19,053
Exclamation point. The president obviously
1255
01:09:19,055 --> 01:09:22,290
very pleased with the ruling now coming in.
1256
01:09:22,292 --> 01:09:27,128
(dramatic music playing)
1257
01:09:32,068 --> 01:09:35,937
(applause)
1258
01:09:48,685 --> 01:09:50,385
Mr. President...
1259
01:09:50,387 --> 01:09:53,922
thank you for the great honor
of appointing me
1260
01:09:53,924 --> 01:09:57,592
to serve as a justice
of the Supreme Court.
1261
01:09:57,594 --> 01:10:01,296
I've seen, first-hand,
your deep appreciation
1262
01:10:01,298 --> 01:10:04,966
for the vital role
of the American judiciary.
1263
01:10:04,968 --> 01:10:08,369
Mr. President,
thank you for everything.
1264
01:10:08,371 --> 01:10:11,539
(applause)
1265
01:10:21,818 --> 01:10:22,684
(exhales)
1266
01:10:22,686 --> 01:10:26,588
Hopefully, I don't fuck up
my first sentence.
1267
01:10:26,590 --> 01:10:28,890
Mr. Chief Justice,
and may it please the court,
1268
01:10:28,892 --> 01:10:32,327
the secretary's decision
rested on a single assertion
1269
01:10:32,329 --> 01:10:36,431
that it was-- Fuck. (laughs)
1270
01:10:37,767 --> 01:10:39,901
Mr. Chief Justice,
and may it please the court,
1271
01:10:39,903 --> 01:10:44,305
the secretary's decision
rested on a single assertion,
1272
01:10:44,307 --> 01:10:48,142
that-- Fuck! (laughs)
1273
01:10:48,144 --> 01:10:52,480
Don't do this tomorrow.
(sighs)
1274
01:10:53,750 --> 01:10:55,950
Mr. Chief Justice,
and may it please the court...
1275
01:10:55,952 --> 01:10:58,219
Mr. Chief Justice,
and may it please the court...
1276
01:10:58,221 --> 01:11:00,521
Mr. Chief Justice,
and may it please the court,
1277
01:11:00,523 --> 01:11:03,725
the secretary's decision
rested on a single assertion,
1278
01:11:03,727 --> 01:11:07,595
that it would provide
more accurate citizenship data
1279
01:11:07,597 --> 01:11:08,896
to the Department of Justice.
1280
01:11:08,898 --> 01:11:12,500
But the administrative record
revealed precisely the opposite,
1281
01:11:12,502 --> 01:11:15,903
that it would result
in less accurate data
1282
01:11:15,905 --> 01:11:17,772
for the Department of Justice.
1283
01:11:17,774 --> 01:11:19,540
And the secretary's explanation
1284
01:11:19,542 --> 01:11:21,943
for his decision
ran counter to the evidence,
1285
01:11:21,945 --> 01:11:24,112
and was thus arbitrary
and capricious...
1286
01:11:24,114 --> 01:11:25,346
...arbitrary and capricious...
1287
01:11:25,348 --> 01:11:27,782
...arbitrary and capricious
in three respects.
1288
01:11:27,784 --> 01:11:30,485
I'm gonna try to work my way
through my points
1289
01:11:30,487 --> 01:11:32,954
and periodically
interrupt myself
1290
01:11:32,956 --> 01:11:34,022
with a random question.
1291
01:11:34,024 --> 01:11:37,425
I'm gonna try to give my answer
and then pivot back
1292
01:11:37,427 --> 01:11:39,761
to my main points.
1293
01:11:39,763 --> 01:11:42,263
It'll be worse
for Voting Rights Act
1294
01:11:42,265 --> 01:11:44,632
enforcement purposes.
1295
01:11:45,235 --> 01:11:46,801
No, that's not the case.
1296
01:11:46,803 --> 01:11:50,104
Yes, that's right,
but imputation
1297
01:11:50,106 --> 01:11:51,606
would be more accurate.
1298
01:11:51,608 --> 01:11:54,042
Well the standard
is the ordinary arbitrary
1299
01:11:54,044 --> 01:11:58,146
and capricious standard
under, um, Section 706.
1300
01:11:58,148 --> 01:11:59,614
Producer: Have you
argued in front
1301
01:11:59,616 --> 01:12:02,517
-of the Supreme Court before?
-No.
1302
01:12:02,919 --> 01:12:05,753
Woman: Did you expect
to be doing it?
1303
01:12:05,755 --> 01:12:07,288
No.
1304
01:12:07,824 --> 01:12:10,792
Producer: Do you think
you're gonna win?
1305
01:12:11,861 --> 01:12:13,695
I don't know.
1306
01:12:14,698 --> 01:12:17,198
All right. (sighs)
1307
01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:20,001
It's gotta be muscle memory now.
1308
01:12:24,708 --> 01:12:26,874
I'm gonna do one more.
1309
01:12:28,311 --> 01:12:31,612
(dramatic music playing)
1310
01:12:41,958 --> 01:12:44,892
I actually went swimming
this morning.
1311
01:12:44,894 --> 01:12:49,330
I figured I might as well
try and relax.
1312
01:12:50,867 --> 01:12:52,533
Producer: Did it work?
1313
01:12:52,535 --> 01:12:54,102
Um...
1314
01:12:54,504 --> 01:12:56,571
Not really. (laughs)
1315
01:12:56,573 --> 01:12:59,340
I haven't been this nervous
in a while for a case.
1316
01:12:59,342 --> 01:13:02,677
I just feel like I--
One of those--
1317
01:13:02,679 --> 01:13:05,780
these cases I just cannot lose.
1318
01:13:05,782 --> 01:13:09,283
I-- I mean, I could lose it,
I'm just saying I...
1319
01:13:09,285 --> 01:13:13,454
I really feel a lot
of pressure to win.
1320
01:13:13,456 --> 01:13:17,625
I just-- It's so horrendous,
what's happening.
1321
01:13:17,627 --> 01:13:22,163
Just reading these stories
over again this morning
1322
01:13:22,165 --> 01:13:23,297
and last night.
1323
01:13:23,299 --> 01:13:27,402
These little kids
are just being terrorized.
1324
01:13:45,355 --> 01:13:48,156
Block: Here today
because President Trump
1325
01:13:48,158 --> 01:13:50,124
has issued a formal memo,
1326
01:13:50,126 --> 01:13:53,694
three directives explicitly
overturning
1327
01:13:53,696 --> 01:13:56,664
current military policy...
1328
01:13:58,034 --> 01:13:59,534
which...
1329
01:13:59,536 --> 01:14:00,735
Is it "which" or "that"?
1330
01:14:00,737 --> 01:14:04,272
Current military policy,
which allows...
1331
01:14:05,608 --> 01:14:07,909
(chuckles)
1332
01:14:09,112 --> 01:14:13,247
(dramatic music playing)
1333
01:14:22,792 --> 01:14:23,891
Woman: Okay again.
1334
01:14:23,893 --> 01:14:28,162
Protesters:
(chanting indistinctly)
1335
01:14:31,034 --> 01:14:35,770
(dramatic music playing)
1336
01:15:23,887 --> 01:15:26,387
Ho: Mr. Chief Justice, and may it please the court,
1337
01:15:26,389 --> 01:15:30,191
the secretary's decision rested primarily on one assertion,
1338
01:15:30,193 --> 01:15:33,728
that it would improve the accuracy of citizenship data
1339
01:15:33,730 --> 01:15:35,530
provided to the Department of Justice.
1340
01:15:35,532 --> 01:15:38,032
But the administration record revealed
1341
01:15:38,034 --> 01:15:39,166
precisely the opposite.
1342
01:15:39,168 --> 01:15:41,869
The secretary's explanation for his decision
1343
01:15:41,871 --> 01:15:44,305
misstated the evidence in the record
1344
01:15:44,307 --> 01:15:46,741
in three critical respects.
1345
01:15:46,809 --> 01:15:50,511
Amiri: This is a blanket ban on abortion for anyone
1346
01:15:50,513 --> 01:15:52,580
while they're in government custody.
1347
01:15:52,582 --> 01:15:56,417
The class must protect the ability of all pregnant minors
1348
01:15:56,419 --> 01:15:59,320
to make their own decisions free from government
1349
01:15:59,322 --> 01:16:01,289
obstruction and interference.
1350
01:16:01,291 --> 01:16:04,392
Block: If there's a transgenderperson whose gender dysphoria
1351
01:16:04,394 --> 01:16:06,427
is actually limiting their ability to serve,
1352
01:16:06,429 --> 01:16:09,163
they can be kicked out just like any other person
1353
01:16:09,165 --> 01:16:11,566
whose medical condition is limiting their ability.
1354
01:16:11,568 --> 01:16:14,802
What the president has done is just irrational
1355
01:16:14,804 --> 01:16:16,504
under any standard.
1356
01:16:16,506 --> 01:16:17,705
Gelernt: They tell the parents
1357
01:16:17,707 --> 01:16:19,674
"We're just taking your child for a bath."
1358
01:16:19,676 --> 01:16:22,243
Then the parent never sees the child again.
1359
01:16:22,245 --> 01:16:24,612
And I realize that I am almost pleading, Your Honor,
1360
01:16:24,614 --> 01:16:27,515
but at this point, we believe that it is necessary for you
1361
01:16:27,517 --> 01:16:31,886
to issue an injunction as early as tonight.
1362
01:16:33,089 --> 01:16:35,122
Neil Gorsuch:
There could be multiple reasons
1363
01:16:35,124 --> 01:16:38,359
why individuals don't complete the form.
1364
01:16:38,361 --> 01:16:41,228
Roberts: Do you own your house? Do you own a radio?
1365
01:16:41,230 --> 01:16:43,431
I mean, the questions go quite beyond
1366
01:16:43,433 --> 01:16:44,665
how many people there are.
1367
01:16:44,667 --> 01:16:46,334
Samuel Alito:
If the secretary is told,
1368
01:16:46,336 --> 01:16:48,603
"Trust us, it's gonna be better,"
1369
01:16:48,605 --> 01:16:49,904
is it arbitrary and capricious?
1370
01:16:49,906 --> 01:16:52,506
Ho: Justice Alito, respectfully,I think the Census Bureau said
1371
01:16:52,508 --> 01:16:54,241
a little bit more than, "Trust us."
1372
01:16:54,243 --> 01:16:57,545
What the Census Bureau said was, "We can develop a highly
1373
01:16:57,547 --> 01:17:00,014
accurate model for this that's going to be better
1374
01:17:00,016 --> 01:17:01,849
than getting the question wrong
1375
01:17:01,851 --> 01:17:03,017
one third of the time."
1376
01:17:03,019 --> 01:17:04,418
Kavanaugh:
The question is,
1377
01:17:04,420 --> 01:17:08,322
it's more important to get accurate citizenship
1378
01:17:08,324 --> 01:17:10,992
information even at the expense,
1379
01:17:10,994 --> 01:17:12,460
potentially, of a slight
1380
01:17:12,462 --> 01:17:15,229
decrease in response rates.
1381
01:17:15,231 --> 01:17:19,867
(dramatic music playing)
1382
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:55,703
(indistinct radio chatter)
1383
01:18:10,353 --> 01:18:12,753
(train door dings)
1384
01:18:18,828 --> 01:18:21,262
Gelernt: We're gonna have
to wait till my phone charges
1385
01:18:21,264 --> 01:18:23,664
for ten minutes
and then go somewhere else.
1386
01:18:23,666 --> 01:18:24,732
Producer: Yeah.
1387
01:18:24,734 --> 01:18:27,601
(indistinct chatter)
1388
01:18:27,603 --> 01:18:30,571
Gelernt: Do you have outlets
in here?
1389
01:18:30,940 --> 01:18:35,810
I can't believe I'm going 20
minutes without having a phone.
1390
01:18:37,213 --> 01:18:39,613
I can't even hear. Is it...?
1391
01:18:39,615 --> 01:18:43,417
Is it still not charging?
It should be charging!
1392
01:18:43,419 --> 01:18:45,319
How do I do this?
1393
01:18:45,321 --> 01:18:48,155
-Stacy?
-Man: Guys would you help me,
1394
01:18:48,157 --> 01:18:49,356
85 cents? I'm homeless.
1395
01:18:49,358 --> 01:18:52,493
Gelernt: My phone has run out.
You've gotta give Inga
1396
01:18:52,495 --> 01:18:56,330
this alternative number, okay?
Tell her to call me
1397
01:18:56,332 --> 01:18:57,598
at 347...
1398
01:18:57,600 --> 01:19:00,735
'Cause now
I can't even make calls.
1399
01:19:02,004 --> 01:19:05,039
The judge just issued
a major ruling in the...
1400
01:19:05,041 --> 01:19:07,808
family separation case,
but it came very late
1401
01:19:07,810 --> 01:19:11,412
and now everyone's scrambling
to read it. I had to read it
1402
01:19:11,414 --> 01:19:14,014
really quickly.
And it looks great.
1403
01:19:14,016 --> 01:19:16,617
All the hard parts.
He rejected the government's
1404
01:19:16,619 --> 01:19:19,120
main position
that these families have no
1405
01:19:19,122 --> 01:19:20,654
constitutional right,
and he did it
1406
01:19:20,656 --> 01:19:22,490
in the strongest possible
language,
1407
01:19:22,492 --> 01:19:25,960
calling the family separation
policy "brutal".
1408
01:19:26,529 --> 01:19:30,231
I just-- Now, I just need
my phone to work.
1409
01:19:30,333 --> 01:19:32,600
I've just re-read it,
and it is really
1410
01:19:32,602 --> 01:19:35,035
an enormous ruling,
because the big issue
1411
01:19:35,037 --> 01:19:37,738
between the parties
was, "Do these families
1412
01:19:37,740 --> 01:19:40,808
have a constitutional right
to remain together?"
1413
01:19:40,810 --> 01:19:43,978
And what he said is, "They do,"
and this is the first
1414
01:19:43,980 --> 01:19:48,516
federal judge now to look at it and say, "It's brutal
1415
01:19:48,518 --> 01:19:51,886
and clearly violates the Constitution."
1416
01:19:51,888 --> 01:19:55,923
(dramatic music playing)
1417
01:20:04,300 --> 01:20:09,136
(crying, speaking Spanish)
1418
01:20:14,410 --> 01:20:17,278
(crying)
1419
01:20:18,281 --> 01:20:19,847
(crying)
1420
01:20:40,303 --> 01:20:43,637
(indistinct chatter)
1421
01:20:43,639 --> 01:20:47,508
(emotional music playing)
1422
01:20:47,510 --> 01:20:52,680
(indistinct chatter)
1423
01:20:57,286 --> 01:21:01,355
Amiri: We just got a decision in the Jane Doe case.
1424
01:21:01,357 --> 01:21:02,523
Class certification is granted.
1425
01:21:02,525 --> 01:21:03,958
Preliminary injunction
as to the class.
1426
01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:09,363
The decision is amazing.
The court says that while O.R.R.
1427
01:21:09,365 --> 01:21:12,733
and Scott Lloyd may prefer
that the minors
1428
01:21:12,735 --> 01:21:15,202
in federal custody
carry their pregnancies to term,
1429
01:21:15,204 --> 01:21:19,139
they may not impose that belief
on minors and strip them
1430
01:21:19,141 --> 01:21:23,043
of their right
to their reproductive decisions.
1431
01:21:23,045 --> 01:21:25,512
Man: Congratulations!
Congratulations!
1432
01:21:25,514 --> 01:21:27,882
Woman: (cheering)
1433
01:21:27,984 --> 01:21:32,753
(indistinct chatter)
1434
01:21:32,755 --> 01:21:37,057
(dramatic music playing)
1435
01:21:59,548 --> 01:22:03,617
Block: We saw, with the Muslim ban, that Trump does something
1436
01:22:03,619 --> 01:22:07,554
shocking, and then they go back
and try it again to make it
1437
01:22:07,556 --> 01:22:10,024
a little less shocking,
and then again to make it
1438
01:22:10,026 --> 01:22:11,091
a little less shocking.
1439
01:22:11,093 --> 01:22:13,260
And then they go up to the Supreme Court,
1440
01:22:13,262 --> 01:22:17,231
where they have a more sympathetic audience.
1441
01:22:26,108 --> 01:22:28,609
Strangio: So, we could a denial this morning,
1442
01:22:28,611 --> 01:22:32,112
which would be great,
or the Supreme Court could stay
1443
01:22:32,114 --> 01:22:36,817
the injunctions,
which would be, like, terrible.
1444
01:22:36,819 --> 01:22:40,020
-Block: It's 9:30.
-Strangio: Alright. So...
1445
01:22:40,022 --> 01:22:42,923
-Block: God damn it!
-Strangio: What? They stayed it?
1446
01:22:42,925 --> 01:22:44,124
Block: They stayed it.
1447
01:22:44,126 --> 01:22:45,960
Strangio: Oh, fuck!
There it is right there,
1448
01:22:45,962 --> 01:22:48,595
-it's the first thing.
-Block: Yeah. Yeah.
1449
01:22:48,597 --> 01:22:54,368
Fuck! So this essentially means
the ban is in effect.
1450
01:22:54,370 --> 01:22:56,070
Block: Yep.
1451
01:22:58,307 --> 01:23:02,276
(dramatic music playing)
1452
01:23:11,287 --> 01:23:14,054
Stone: Everybody was saying,
"Oh, you know, you're safe,
1453
01:23:14,056 --> 01:23:17,791
you're safe." But, um,
I guess the main thing
1454
01:23:17,793 --> 01:23:21,762
was I felt pretty disappointed
that, you know,
1455
01:23:21,764 --> 01:23:25,366
all the people that were kind of
in line to enlist
1456
01:23:25,368 --> 01:23:27,835
were gonna get screwed.
1457
01:23:28,571 --> 01:23:31,905
It's hard to go to work and focus on your job
1458
01:23:31,907 --> 01:23:35,509
and do a good job when you know that maybe
1459
01:23:35,511 --> 01:23:38,345
you're still gonna get kicked out.
1460
01:23:38,981 --> 01:23:40,848
Maybe the guy sitting
next to you thinks
1461
01:23:40,850 --> 01:23:43,617
that you should be kicked out,
you know?
1462
01:23:43,619 --> 01:23:47,888
(dramatic music playing)
1463
01:24:14,583 --> 01:24:16,583
Ho: When I think about...
1464
01:24:17,753 --> 01:24:21,488
what we expect,
um, today, you know,
1465
01:24:21,490 --> 01:24:25,092
in, like,
an adverse decision, um...
1466
01:24:25,494 --> 01:24:26,794
and I think about, like,
1467
01:24:26,796 --> 01:24:29,296
"Okay, well, next week
I'm on vacation. It's, like,
1468
01:24:29,298 --> 01:24:32,466
finally my time to relax..."
1469
01:24:33,769 --> 01:24:35,402
Hey kiddo.
1470
01:24:36,639 --> 01:24:38,038
Bye.
1471
01:24:42,378 --> 01:24:44,211
-Thanks.
-Mm-hmm.
1472
01:24:45,381 --> 01:24:47,147
-All right.
-Good luck.
1473
01:24:47,149 --> 01:24:48,582
Thanks.
1474
01:24:52,521 --> 01:24:56,423
You know, it's gonna suck
if we lose, but...
1475
01:24:56,425 --> 01:24:59,393
I mean, it's awful for us.
It's awful for all of us.
1476
01:24:59,395 --> 01:25:02,029
It's awful for our democracy.
1477
01:25:11,307 --> 01:25:14,308
I never really thought I'd get an argument
1478
01:25:14,310 --> 01:25:16,443
in the Supreme Court.
1479
01:25:16,779 --> 01:25:19,246
And I sort of thought
that if I did,
1480
01:25:19,248 --> 01:25:25,185
it would be a pretty minor case.
Not something that's like...
1481
01:25:26,822 --> 01:25:29,490
the big bombshell of the day.
1482
01:25:52,548 --> 01:25:54,148
(sighs)
1483
01:26:10,533 --> 01:26:12,599
Got the decision.
1484
01:26:19,241 --> 01:26:20,674
Yeah.
1485
01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:26,713
Yeah, we lost.
1486
01:26:31,687 --> 01:26:33,253
(exhales)
1487
01:26:37,293 --> 01:26:39,059
Wait a minute, what?
1488
01:26:42,464 --> 01:26:43,897
Did I?
1489
01:26:44,366 --> 01:26:46,733
Did I read that too fast?
1490
01:26:47,670 --> 01:26:51,705
What the f... I can't
understand what's happening.
1491
01:26:51,707 --> 01:26:54,575
Wait, wait, wait, wait,
wait, wait.
1492
01:26:54,577 --> 01:26:56,243
We...
1493
01:26:58,547 --> 01:27:00,747
won on...
1494
01:27:01,383 --> 01:27:04,585
on establishing
that it was pretextual.
1495
01:27:06,655 --> 01:27:08,355
(telephone rings)
1496
01:27:08,357 --> 01:27:09,890
-Inga: Hey.
-Hey, hey, hey. So, um...
1497
01:27:09,892 --> 01:27:14,828
-Inga: What's up?
-Uh, uh, uh... It's confusing.
1498
01:27:14,830 --> 01:27:16,897
They're agreeing with us
that the agency
1499
01:27:16,899 --> 01:27:20,667
wasn't truthful about why they
added the citizenship question.
1500
01:27:20,669 --> 01:27:22,836
-Inga: Okay.
-Ho: The pretext point.
1501
01:27:22,838 --> 01:27:25,172
They can't print the forms
on Monday
1502
01:27:25,174 --> 01:27:27,207
with the question on it.
1503
01:27:27,376 --> 01:27:29,743
Inga: Okay. So...
1504
01:27:29,745 --> 01:27:31,478
-I mean, is it a...
-It's a...
1505
01:27:31,480 --> 01:27:35,282
-Inga: ...voting rights victory?
-It's like a win!
1506
01:27:37,386 --> 01:27:40,587
Inga: Do you want me to send the win version?
1507
01:27:40,789 --> 01:27:43,523
-Lawyer: Hey!
-We're still winning right now.
1508
01:27:43,525 --> 01:27:45,692
-We're winning right now.
-Ho: Yeah.
1509
01:27:45,694 --> 01:27:47,794
I gotta get the opinion.
1510
01:27:48,697 --> 01:27:52,266
And I saw, like, a dissent
from the four liberals, and I--
1511
01:27:52,268 --> 01:27:54,668
I just assumed that meant
it's over, and the--
1512
01:27:54,670 --> 01:27:57,304
Every first part
of the opinion was...
1513
01:27:57,306 --> 01:27:59,206
"It's not substantively
invalid."
1514
01:27:59,208 --> 01:28:01,174
I just feel like
an idiot right now.
1515
01:28:01,176 --> 01:28:03,977
I forgot to send it
to the printer.
1516
01:28:03,979 --> 01:28:04,978
Inga: To who?
1517
01:28:04,980 --> 01:28:06,446
Oh, Inga! Hey sorry,
you're there.
1518
01:28:06,448 --> 01:28:09,216
I forgot to send the opinion
to the printer. I have to-- I--
1519
01:28:09,218 --> 01:28:11,818
I actually have to read
the damn thing.
1520
01:28:14,857 --> 01:28:16,423
Holy shit!
1521
01:28:16,425 --> 01:28:18,959
-Holy shit!
-Lawyer: We won!
1522
01:28:18,961 --> 01:28:20,360
(laughing)
1523
01:28:20,362 --> 01:28:22,963
Look, it's not over!
I mean, they're gonna come back
1524
01:28:22,965 --> 01:28:24,131
-and try again.
-Pretext!
1525
01:28:24,133 --> 01:28:25,465
Yeah, you're right!
You're right!
1526
01:28:25,467 --> 01:28:26,700
-Yes!
-Ho: You're right!
1527
01:28:26,702 --> 01:28:28,302
Lawyer: Congress has
to have hearings.
1528
01:28:28,304 --> 01:28:29,403
Like, everything in sight
1529
01:28:29,405 --> 01:28:31,638
to make sure this question
does not get on.
1530
01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:33,106
-Uh...
-Lawyer: You won!
1531
01:28:33,108 --> 01:28:34,808
-(phone ringing)
-Hello?
1532
01:28:34,810 --> 01:28:36,276
Cole: Hey Dale. Congratulations!
1533
01:28:36,278 --> 01:28:38,612
-We won!
-Cole: Can you believe this?
1534
01:28:38,614 --> 01:28:40,347
I mean, I was reading the thing.
I thought we lost.
1535
01:28:40,349 --> 01:28:42,749
I know! I did the same thing!
I was reading the syllabus
1536
01:28:42,751 --> 01:28:44,551
-and I was like...
-Cole: Exactly!
1537
01:28:44,553 --> 01:28:46,453
We won on pretext!
1538
01:28:46,522 --> 01:28:48,088
But that's unbelievable,
1539
01:28:48,090 --> 01:28:52,159
-so unbelievable.
-Holy shit!
1540
01:28:52,394 --> 01:28:53,860
Oh my God!
1541
01:28:53,862 --> 01:28:57,497
-(laughs) Oh my God!
-Cole: Oh my God.
1542
01:28:57,499 --> 01:29:00,500
At first I was like, "Oh shit,
this is just temporary."
1543
01:29:00,502 --> 01:29:03,437
But the more I think about it,
the more I think
1544
01:29:03,439 --> 01:29:05,739
that they can't do it.
1545
01:29:05,741 --> 01:29:10,344
We have a ruling from the Court
that we can rely on discovery.
1546
01:29:10,346 --> 01:29:12,179
I mean, forget it.
1547
01:29:12,181 --> 01:29:15,482
We will fuck them up
if they try to do this.
1548
01:29:15,484 --> 01:29:17,551
We will go back into court.
We will depose
1549
01:29:17,553 --> 01:29:22,155
-all of these m------------.
-Cole: (laughing)
1550
01:29:23,792 --> 01:29:26,159
Congrats! Maybe you should
go on the other side
1551
01:29:26,161 --> 01:29:30,897
Okay, I've never done
that before. Oh, God.
1552
01:29:30,899 --> 01:29:32,632
Crowd: (cheering)
1553
01:29:32,634 --> 01:29:33,433
Hey!
1554
01:29:33,435 --> 01:29:37,704
-Romero: Hey! (laughs)
-(cheers and applause)
1555
01:29:48,217 --> 01:29:50,083
(telephone beeps)
1556
01:29:56,125 --> 01:29:59,526
(telephone ringing)
1557
01:30:05,634 --> 01:30:07,334
-Caroline: Hello?
-We won.
1558
01:30:07,336 --> 01:30:11,538
Caroline: I know, I'm crying! I'm, like, shaking and crying.
1559
01:30:11,540 --> 01:30:14,674
That's so amazing! (sobs)
1560
01:30:15,677 --> 01:30:19,613
Oh, my God, it's so amazing!
1561
01:30:21,583 --> 01:30:22,716
We won.
1562
01:30:22,718 --> 01:30:25,886
Caroline: (chuckles) I'm so--
1563
01:30:25,888 --> 01:30:27,721
I'm so incredibly proud
1564
01:30:27,723 --> 01:30:32,292
and happy. That's so great. It's so great.
1565
01:30:35,798 --> 01:30:40,834
(dramatic music playing)
1566
01:30:47,209 --> 01:30:49,810
Amiri: All I've ever known
how to do is fight,
1567
01:30:49,812 --> 01:30:52,212
and so we just keep fighting.
And even though we're tired
1568
01:30:52,214 --> 01:30:55,282
and even though it's exhausting
and it's maddening,
1569
01:30:55,284 --> 01:30:57,117
it's what we do.
1570
01:31:05,828 --> 01:31:09,596
In Section One--
Is it Section One?
1571
01:31:12,334 --> 01:31:16,803
There's a significant risk of the courts coming up
1572
01:31:16,805 --> 01:31:19,906
with some constitutional right
to discriminate
1573
01:31:19,908 --> 01:31:20,974
against LGBT people.
1574
01:31:20,976 --> 01:31:25,712
To not only, um,
you know, stop protecting
1575
01:31:25,714 --> 01:31:28,849
them under the Constitution,
but striking down laws
1576
01:31:28,851 --> 01:31:30,484
designed to protect them.
1577
01:31:30,486 --> 01:31:33,954
We don't know what the full
fallout will be.
1578
01:31:33,956 --> 01:31:37,324
Strangio: There is a fight
going on and we don't exist
1579
01:31:37,326 --> 01:31:39,693
on the terms
of government definitions.
1580
01:31:39,695 --> 01:31:42,996
We exist because we are here
right now.
1581
01:31:42,998 --> 01:31:45,732
(crowd cheering)
1582
01:31:45,734 --> 01:31:49,903
(indistinct chanting)
1583
01:31:58,480 --> 01:32:00,714
Ho: A lot of people have been running up to us
1584
01:32:00,716 --> 01:32:02,916
saying things like, you know, "You're our hope
1585
01:32:02,918 --> 01:32:06,353
against the forces that have put Trump in power,"
1586
01:32:06,355 --> 01:32:09,656
and, "You're gonna be
what's gonna stop this thing."
1587
01:32:09,658 --> 01:32:10,857
And I think that's wrong.
1588
01:32:10,859 --> 01:32:14,661
Like, we're not gonna be able
to stop this thing ourselves.
1589
01:32:14,663 --> 01:32:17,063
I mean, we're, like,
two-and-a-half floors
1590
01:32:17,065 --> 01:32:19,666
of a building
in New York, right?
1591
01:32:19,668 --> 01:32:20,667
I mean we're not,
1592
01:32:20,669 --> 01:32:22,602
against the power
of the federal government
1593
01:32:22,604 --> 01:32:25,839
and this massive
political movement.
1594
01:32:26,475 --> 01:32:28,909
We're not gonna solve it.
1595
01:32:31,213 --> 01:32:34,881
I think if anyone expects us to, they need to take a look
1596
01:32:34,883 --> 01:32:36,416
in the mirror and ask themselves
1597
01:32:36,418 --> 01:32:38,351
what are they gonna do.
1598
01:32:38,453 --> 01:32:39,920
It's not gonna be lawyers
in courts.
1599
01:32:39,922 --> 01:32:44,658
It's gonna be people
who, um, turn the ship around.
1600
01:32:44,660 --> 01:32:49,195
(dramatic music playing)
1601
01:33:09,685 --> 01:33:11,551
Woman: She's here.
1602
01:33:15,824 --> 01:33:17,857
Oh my goodness.
1603
01:33:18,727 --> 01:33:19,859
-Hello!
-Hi.
1604
01:33:19,861 --> 01:33:23,263
-Hello, Hello! Welcome!
-Hi.
1605
01:33:23,265 --> 01:33:25,365
(woman laughs)
1606
01:33:31,139 --> 01:33:35,008
(Ms. L crying)
1607
01:33:42,618 --> 01:33:46,953
(sobbing)
1608
01:34:28,830 --> 01:34:32,832
(dramatic music playing)
1609
01:37:01,283 --> 01:37:05,952
(dramatic music playing)
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