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Please. 11 00:00:54,750 --> 00:00:55,577 911 DISPATCHER: OK, don't hang up. 12 00:00:55,707 --> 00:00:56,882 What's your name? 13 00:00:57,013 --> 00:00:57,927 RODNEY SCOTT [ON PHONE]: Rodney Scott. 14 00:00:58,058 --> 00:00:58,710 911 DISPATCHER: Rodney? 15 00:00:58,841 --> 00:00:59,885 RODNEY SCOTT [ON PHONE]: Yeah. 16 00:01:00,016 --> 00:01:01,235 911 DISPATCHER: Rodney, put the gun down, OK? 17 00:01:01,365 --> 00:01:01,974 RODNEY SCOTT [ON PHONE]: Get back. 18 00:01:02,105 --> 00:01:02,888 911 DISPATCHER: R-- Rodney. 19 00:01:03,019 --> 00:01:03,976 RODNEY SCOTT [ON PHONE]: Get back. 20 00:01:04,107 --> 00:01:05,587 Brother, ain't you from across the street? 21 00:01:05,717 --> 00:01:09,243 [dial tone] 22 00:01:23,909 --> 00:01:26,260 ANGIE: Elkhart, Indiana. 23 00:01:26,390 --> 00:01:27,870 It's, um, very small. 24 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,612 Really small. 25 00:01:30,742 --> 00:01:34,050 You don't realize it's as smallas what it is, but it is small. 26 00:01:38,924 --> 00:01:41,275 Sometimes the only thing hereto do is maybe go to the bar. 27 00:01:41,405 --> 00:01:44,843 And you don't want to get in trouble here. 28 00:01:44,974 --> 00:01:48,499 We have quotes about Elkhart,like you come here on vacation, 29 00:01:48,630 --> 00:01:52,590 and you can't leave becauseyou end up on probation. 30 00:01:52,721 --> 00:01:55,898 Yeah, it's just a small town that seems 31 00:01:56,028 --> 00:01:57,334 like everybody knows everybody. 32 00:02:01,338 --> 00:02:03,079 I've lived a big chunk of my life 33 00:02:03,210 --> 00:02:06,387 on Frances Avenue in Elkhart. 34 00:02:06,517 --> 00:02:10,521 I lived with my parents growingup on the other end of Frances. 35 00:02:10,652 --> 00:02:14,177 We did move out of thearea, but then I came back. 36 00:02:18,529 --> 00:02:20,575 As a young teenager, a younger age, 37 00:02:20,705 --> 00:02:21,880 I would be at the roller rink. 38 00:02:22,011 --> 00:02:24,579 We all did the roller rink thing. 39 00:02:24,709 --> 00:02:27,495 We did have a small mall not too far from here 40 00:02:27,625 --> 00:02:29,671 that we would hang out at. 41 00:02:29,801 --> 00:02:31,499 But there still wasn't a lot to do. 42 00:02:31,629 --> 00:02:34,980 So of course we had ourparties and underage drinking 43 00:02:35,111 --> 00:02:36,895 issues and things like that. 44 00:02:43,337 --> 00:02:46,862 At 16, I was hanging outwith a good friend of mine. 45 00:02:46,992 --> 00:02:49,430 And her brother was also close to our age. 46 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,389 And things led to things, and we end 47 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,652 up getting pregnant with Blake. 48 00:02:54,783 --> 00:02:59,222 And, of course, either oneof us were quite ready. 49 00:02:59,353 --> 00:03:05,185 So I stepped up to be thesingle mother that I had to be. 50 00:03:05,315 --> 00:03:06,795 Went to school-- high school. 51 00:03:06,925 --> 00:03:10,755 After high school, went toa part-time job every day. 52 00:03:10,886 --> 00:03:12,061 And Blake did everything with me. 53 00:03:12,192 --> 00:03:13,628 Blake was at my graduation. 54 00:03:13,758 --> 00:03:16,326 Blake was in my senior pictures. 55 00:03:16,457 --> 00:03:19,590 I remember I didn't go to my junior prom 56 00:03:19,721 --> 00:03:22,593 because I was practicallya labor at the time. 57 00:03:22,724 --> 00:03:25,640 It was real close to thesame time that the prom was. 58 00:03:25,770 --> 00:03:27,772 I did make it to my senior prom, so that was nice. 59 00:03:27,903 --> 00:03:30,819 But yeah, it was-- it wasn't easy being 60 00:03:30,949 --> 00:03:31,559 a single young mother. 61 00:03:42,831 --> 00:03:43,701 But I grew up with Blake. 62 00:03:43,832 --> 00:03:46,138 Blake was my everything. 63 00:03:46,269 --> 00:03:47,444 I've never lived without Blake. 64 00:03:50,969 --> 00:03:52,406 He was my sidekick. 65 00:03:52,536 --> 00:03:55,060 No matter where I was, Blake was there. 66 00:03:55,191 --> 00:03:56,497 I think that's the hardest part. 67 00:03:56,627 --> 00:03:59,151 It's like we've kind of grown up together. 68 00:03:59,282 --> 00:04:01,241 And he's always been a bighelp, helping with his brother 69 00:04:01,371 --> 00:04:02,111 and sister, too. 70 00:04:06,289 --> 00:04:11,076 That day, I got a phone callthat there was an incident that 71 00:04:11,207 --> 00:04:12,817 happened a few blocks from our house 72 00:04:12,948 --> 00:04:15,167 on Frances Avenue statingthere was a lot of police. 73 00:04:18,736 --> 00:04:20,956 So I called my son, Blake,just to see what was 74 00:04:21,086 --> 00:04:23,437 going on in the neighborhood. 75 00:04:23,567 --> 00:04:27,615 But I couldn't get in touch with him. 76 00:04:27,745 --> 00:04:31,096 KATHERINE: I was at school,and I got a call from Blake's 77 00:04:31,227 --> 00:04:32,446 mom, Angie, freaking out. 78 00:04:32,576 --> 00:04:34,970 Like, there's cops down the road. 79 00:04:35,100 --> 00:04:36,363 I have a feeling it's about Blake. 80 00:04:36,493 --> 00:04:37,886 Blake's not answering his phone. 81 00:04:42,238 --> 00:04:44,327 ANGIE: I was flipping out. 82 00:04:44,458 --> 00:04:45,415 I know my son. 83 00:04:45,546 --> 00:04:47,069 And I know my son will pick up my phone 84 00:04:47,199 --> 00:04:48,462 call at every phone call. 85 00:04:48,592 --> 00:04:52,379 So I felt in my gut something was wrong. 86 00:04:52,509 --> 00:04:53,989 KATHERINE: I got to Blake's house. 87 00:04:54,119 --> 00:04:57,601 There was a whole bunch copsand ambulances down the street. 88 00:04:57,732 --> 00:04:59,386 ANGIE: I talked to an officer, but I 89 00:04:59,516 --> 00:05:01,823 was denied any information, or if it 90 00:05:01,953 --> 00:05:05,566 had anything to do with my son. 91 00:05:05,696 --> 00:05:09,309 Somebody said five of teenagershad broke into a home, 92 00:05:09,439 --> 00:05:13,574 and that my son was involved. 93 00:05:13,704 --> 00:05:15,880 The next thing I find outis pretty much that two 94 00:05:16,011 --> 00:05:18,622 of the kids had been shot. 95 00:05:18,753 --> 00:05:22,409 One was alive, and one was dead. 96 00:05:22,539 --> 00:05:27,239 I didn't know if it was my son that w-- 97 00:05:27,370 --> 00:05:28,415 was gone. 98 00:05:28,545 --> 00:05:29,285 Which passed. 99 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:34,551 KATHERINE: Angie left to the hospital 100 00:05:34,682 --> 00:05:36,597 to see if Blake was there. 101 00:05:36,727 --> 00:05:39,382 And an officer showed up and said 102 00:05:39,513 --> 00:05:40,992 that we had to talked to Officer Price, which 103 00:05:41,123 --> 00:05:42,646 was the homicide detective. 104 00:05:42,777 --> 00:05:44,256 So at that point, we were all, oh my gosh. 105 00:05:44,387 --> 00:05:48,260 Like, something reallybad has happened to Blake. 106 00:05:48,391 --> 00:05:50,219 ANGIE: On the way to the hospital, 107 00:05:50,350 --> 00:05:52,003 the police station called me. 108 00:05:52,134 --> 00:05:53,657 They had Blake. 109 00:05:53,788 --> 00:05:56,660 He had been shot in somebody else's home. 110 00:05:56,791 --> 00:05:59,315 And so I went to the Elkhart Police station. 111 00:05:59,446 --> 00:06:00,795 I got questioned quite a bit. 112 00:06:00,925 --> 00:06:02,753 I just kept asking to see my son. 113 00:06:02,884 --> 00:06:04,059 And at the time, he's 16. 114 00:06:04,189 --> 00:06:06,235 I should've been able to see him. 115 00:06:06,366 --> 00:06:09,978 They wanted me to sign thepaper to have him questioned. 116 00:06:10,108 --> 00:06:11,545 And they told me that theywere charging him with murder. 117 00:06:15,897 --> 00:06:19,204 KATHERINE: The first personthat Blake called was me. 118 00:06:19,335 --> 00:06:22,382 He called me, and he was bawling, 119 00:06:22,512 --> 00:06:23,818 talking about how he messed up. 120 00:06:23,948 --> 00:06:26,777 And he wishes that he had never done anything. 121 00:06:26,908 --> 00:06:30,390 He was just sobbing. 122 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:34,350 [somber music] 123 00:06:57,982 --> 00:06:59,593 MALE REPORTER 1:Prosecutors announce four 124 00:06:59,723 --> 00:07:01,595 men are facing murder charges. 125 00:07:01,725 --> 00:07:03,727 And Judy, why are these men being charged 126 00:07:03,858 --> 00:07:05,468 with murder when they didn't pull the trigger 127 00:07:05,599 --> 00:07:06,687 that killed their friend? 128 00:07:06,817 --> 00:07:08,384 FEMALE REPORTER 1: Well, Brian, the prosecutor 129 00:07:08,515 --> 00:07:09,733 made it very clear today. 130 00:07:09,864 --> 00:07:12,344 Under Indiana law, when you'rein the midst of engaging 131 00:07:12,475 --> 00:07:14,956 in criminal behavior and someone is killed, 132 00:07:15,086 --> 00:07:17,045 murder is an available charge. 133 00:07:17,175 --> 00:07:20,048 It sends a strong messageto criminals here that crime 134 00:07:20,178 --> 00:07:20,962 will not be tolerated. 135 00:07:25,662 --> 00:07:28,448 [bell chimes] 136 00:07:52,776 --> 00:07:54,691 We live day to day. 137 00:07:54,822 --> 00:07:56,780 We live day to day, you know? 138 00:07:56,911 --> 00:08:00,697 You-- you fill your time out the right way. 139 00:08:00,828 --> 00:08:04,179 You occupy your time with the right things 140 00:08:04,309 --> 00:08:06,050 and avoid the wrong. 141 00:08:06,181 --> 00:08:07,661 You know, it's prison. 142 00:08:07,791 --> 00:08:10,098 You're surrounded by negative all the time. 143 00:08:10,228 --> 00:08:12,404 Be a light in the dark, you know? 144 00:08:12,535 --> 00:08:15,495 Be the one that's different. 145 00:08:15,625 --> 00:08:18,802 It's hard. 146 00:08:18,933 --> 00:08:20,282 It's been nine months already, and I'm 147 00:08:20,412 --> 00:08:21,196 still waiting on my trial. 148 00:08:24,155 --> 00:08:27,071 I mean, you don't get tophysically see your family, 149 00:08:27,202 --> 00:08:28,420 you know? 150 00:08:28,551 --> 00:08:30,510 You're talking to the only people that 151 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,904 are there for you over a phone. 152 00:08:34,035 --> 00:08:36,820 Over a screen. 153 00:08:36,951 --> 00:08:38,430 And it's tough. 154 00:08:38,561 --> 00:08:42,043 You're in this big place all by yourself, 155 00:08:42,173 --> 00:08:46,003 and you can't even give yourmom a hug, or your girl, 156 00:08:46,134 --> 00:08:46,874 or-- nothing. 157 00:08:55,143 --> 00:08:55,709 I wasn't a bad kid. 158 00:08:59,974 --> 00:09:00,888 I made mistakes. 159 00:09:01,018 --> 00:09:01,541 Every kid does. 160 00:09:05,370 --> 00:09:06,415 Tried to play sports when I was younger. 161 00:09:06,546 --> 00:09:07,547 Didn't really like it. 162 00:09:07,677 --> 00:09:08,722 Didn't do it. 163 00:09:08,852 --> 00:09:11,289 MAN: Come on, Blakey. 164 00:09:11,420 --> 00:09:15,163 Come on, Blakey-bloo. 165 00:09:15,293 --> 00:09:16,512 [chuckles] 166 00:09:16,643 --> 00:09:19,689 When I got older, started-- 167 00:09:19,820 --> 00:09:23,824 tried getting high, stuff like that. 168 00:09:23,954 --> 00:09:25,869 Just kind of startedhanging out with, you know, 169 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:27,001 guys that were doing I was doing. 170 00:09:27,131 --> 00:09:29,177 So that's all we did, you know? 171 00:09:29,307 --> 00:09:30,047 Kicked it and got high. 172 00:09:36,140 --> 00:09:43,539 That day, I was with Anthony,Jose, Levi, and Danzele. 173 00:09:43,670 --> 00:09:45,106 I had known most for a long time. 174 00:09:45,236 --> 00:09:47,108 All good friends. 175 00:09:47,238 --> 00:09:48,762 I don't know why we decided we were going 176 00:09:48,892 --> 00:09:50,415 to break into somebody's house. 177 00:09:50,546 --> 00:09:51,286 I think it was money. 178 00:09:51,416 --> 00:09:52,330 Probably to get higher. 179 00:09:52,461 --> 00:09:54,202 I don't know. 180 00:09:54,332 --> 00:09:56,421 We knocked on people's houses,see if anybody was home. 181 00:09:56,552 --> 00:09:57,553 One house had dogs or something. 182 00:09:57,684 --> 00:09:59,163 I don't remember. 183 00:09:59,294 --> 00:10:03,515 And then pretty sure it wasJose that said something 184 00:10:03,646 --> 00:10:06,606 about the house across thestreet, not being there a lot, 185 00:10:06,736 --> 00:10:08,738 and at work. 186 00:10:08,869 --> 00:10:11,654 So we knocked on that door. 187 00:10:11,785 --> 00:10:13,395 Nobody picked up. 188 00:10:13,525 --> 00:10:16,790 And, you know, in our heads,that meant no one was there. 189 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,401 At that point, Levi decided to stay back 190 00:10:19,531 --> 00:10:20,184 and kind of became the lookout. 191 00:10:24,362 --> 00:10:26,234 And kind of want to sayDanzele kicked the door in. 192 00:10:26,364 --> 00:10:27,627 We went inside. 193 00:10:27,757 --> 00:10:29,454 And we weren't in there probably a minute. 194 00:10:29,585 --> 00:10:31,805 Not very long at all. 195 00:10:31,935 --> 00:10:33,676 There was a wallet and a watch. 196 00:10:33,807 --> 00:10:35,286 I just grabbed it. 197 00:10:35,417 --> 00:10:38,246 And that's when thehomeowner had come downstairs 198 00:10:38,376 --> 00:10:41,118 and began shooting. 199 00:10:41,249 --> 00:10:42,990 We're all in a bedroom. 200 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:47,951 And we turned around and run back in a closet. 201 00:10:48,082 --> 00:10:51,041 I didn't know I'd got shotuntil I grabbed my leg 202 00:10:51,172 --> 00:10:51,912 and it started hurting. 203 00:10:52,042 --> 00:10:54,523 And I realized, oh, yeah. 204 00:10:54,654 --> 00:10:55,480 I was shot. 205 00:11:01,095 --> 00:11:04,968 And then I noticed thatDanzele was kind of falling. 206 00:11:05,099 --> 00:11:07,188 And I kind of looked over, and I seen on his chest 207 00:11:07,318 --> 00:11:12,280 that his sweater was all red. 208 00:11:12,410 --> 00:11:14,717 And then it kind of clicked inmy hand, like, oh, you know, 209 00:11:14,848 --> 00:11:17,285 he got shot. 210 00:11:17,415 --> 00:11:19,243 I tried to pull him in the closet, 211 00:11:19,374 --> 00:11:21,593 and I felt the blood on my hand. 212 00:11:24,684 --> 00:11:26,076 And that's when he had died. 213 00:11:42,571 --> 00:11:46,618 CURTIS HILL: The law is quite clear that if one 214 00:11:46,749 --> 00:11:48,316 engages in a felony-- 215 00:11:48,446 --> 00:11:50,753 and particular felony, burglary-- 216 00:11:50,884 --> 00:11:54,191 and, during the commissionof that burglary, someone 217 00:11:54,322 --> 00:11:58,805 dies as a result, that wecan charge felony murder. 218 00:11:58,935 --> 00:12:00,894 To the future criminals, that message is, gee, 219 00:12:01,024 --> 00:12:03,418 if you go breaking into somebody's house 220 00:12:03,548 --> 00:12:06,551 and somebody dies as a result,Elkhart County is going 221 00:12:06,682 --> 00:12:08,553 to hold you up for murder. 222 00:12:08,684 --> 00:12:09,903 And I think that's animportant standard to have. 223 00:12:18,955 --> 00:12:19,651 ANGIE: They're going to be raised 224 00:12:19,782 --> 00:12:21,653 with criminals for years. 225 00:12:21,784 --> 00:12:23,264 If they're gonna put themwith that kind of time, 226 00:12:23,394 --> 00:12:25,309 they're going to go to the worst of the worst. 227 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:26,746 [inaudible] 228 00:12:26,876 --> 00:12:29,357 Because they're max security,because they're murderers. 229 00:12:29,487 --> 00:12:33,013 That just makes me so sick to my stomach. 230 00:12:33,143 --> 00:12:34,666 TAMMY: That's too much. 231 00:12:34,797 --> 00:12:36,016 I get myself-- 232 00:12:36,146 --> 00:12:38,105 ANGIE: That's why we'vegot to keep things going. 233 00:12:38,235 --> 00:12:39,628 It helps. 234 00:12:39,759 --> 00:12:44,894 But we need to do arecent summary of the case 235 00:12:45,025 --> 00:12:46,809 and what has happened to put on-- 236 00:12:46,940 --> 00:12:48,332 Update the flyers, I was thinking. 237 00:12:48,463 --> 00:12:49,507 That's what I was thinking, too. 238 00:12:49,638 --> 00:12:50,595 I was like, I need to go through there and-- 239 00:12:50,726 --> 00:12:51,814 We don't want to draw it all out either, 240 00:12:51,945 --> 00:12:53,642 because they did commit a crime, and they 241 00:12:53,773 --> 00:12:54,730 deserve to be punished. 242 00:12:54,861 --> 00:12:56,297 Oh, definitely. 243 00:12:56,427 --> 00:12:57,777 It's not like we're justtrying to get out of it. 244 00:12:57,907 --> 00:12:59,996 We know Blake didwrong, and we know that he 245 00:13:00,127 --> 00:13:02,825 broke into that man's house. 246 00:13:02,956 --> 00:13:04,784 But charge him with what he did. 247 00:13:04,914 --> 00:13:07,395 Charge him for the breakingand entering, even burglary. 248 00:13:07,525 --> 00:13:10,093 It's a six- to 20-year sentence for these kids. 249 00:13:10,224 --> 00:13:12,008 Felony murder is stretching. 250 00:13:12,139 --> 00:13:16,273 It's cruel punishment to these teenagers. 251 00:13:16,404 --> 00:13:20,147 The felony murder rule, it'sjust-- it's very outdated. 252 00:13:20,277 --> 00:13:22,410 You don't have to prove an intent to kill any-- 253 00:13:22,540 --> 00:13:24,629 I mean, you don't evenactually have to do the murder 254 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:25,805 to be charged with it. 255 00:13:25,935 --> 00:13:28,590 I just think that's ridiculous. 256 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:32,594 All they have to do is provethat you were in the commission 257 00:13:32,724 --> 00:13:35,075 of the alleged crime. 258 00:13:35,205 --> 00:13:36,946 That blew me away, and I've beendealing with the legal system 259 00:13:37,077 --> 00:13:38,078 for years. 260 00:13:38,208 --> 00:13:39,035 They caught me completely off guard. 261 00:13:42,386 --> 00:13:45,476 [guitar music] 262 00:13:53,267 --> 00:13:54,529 ANGIE: The day before our trial was beginning, 263 00:13:54,659 --> 00:13:57,314 I had myself prepared for the worst. 264 00:13:57,445 --> 00:14:00,361 Prepared for a guiltyverdict of felony murder. 265 00:14:00,491 --> 00:14:06,106 But as I went through thetrial, and the week, and I-- 266 00:14:06,236 --> 00:14:08,369 I thought, if anything, them 12 jurors-- 267 00:14:08,499 --> 00:14:10,762 somebody was going to decidenot to send these boys away 268 00:14:10,893 --> 00:14:11,589 for the rest of their lives. 269 00:14:15,158 --> 00:14:17,247 It seemed like we had a nice juror. 270 00:14:17,378 --> 00:14:18,988 It would've been fair and decent. 271 00:14:19,119 --> 00:14:22,078 There was like eight females, four males. 272 00:14:22,209 --> 00:14:23,775 Some of them a couple schoolteachers. 273 00:14:23,906 --> 00:14:26,430 I just-- I just had big hope that these people 274 00:14:26,561 --> 00:14:28,563 would not charge these boyswith something they didn't do. 275 00:14:31,740 --> 00:14:33,698 KATHERINE: I got Blake's hopes up because 276 00:14:33,829 --> 00:14:36,049 of how good trial was looking. 277 00:14:36,179 --> 00:14:37,311 We were talking on the phone those days 278 00:14:37,441 --> 00:14:39,182 like, man, we got this case. 279 00:14:39,313 --> 00:14:40,053 Like, we're going to win. 280 00:14:40,183 --> 00:14:41,184 You're going to come home. 281 00:14:41,315 --> 00:14:44,144 You're going to get charged with burglary. 282 00:14:44,274 --> 00:14:45,841 As we sit here today, we have the death 283 00:14:45,972 --> 00:14:49,453 of Danzele Johnson, whichis absolutely unvindicated. 284 00:14:49,584 --> 00:14:53,414 Not one of them truly didaccept responsibility. 285 00:14:53,544 --> 00:14:56,330 You know, our laws do notcome close to addressing 286 00:14:56,460 --> 00:14:59,768 what a violent attack-- aburglary-- is on your home. 287 00:14:59,899 --> 00:15:01,291 I mean, where do our children feel safe? 288 00:15:01,422 --> 00:15:02,727 They feel safe in their beds. 289 00:15:02,858 --> 00:15:05,252 And they don't think that peopleare going to violate that, 290 00:15:05,382 --> 00:15:06,862 and yet that's exactly what happened here. 291 00:15:11,301 --> 00:15:12,824 CURTIS HILL: Everybody isentitled to their opinion. 292 00:15:12,955 --> 00:15:15,088 That's what this Americansystem is all about. 293 00:15:15,218 --> 00:15:17,090 I'm not here to address concerns. 294 00:15:17,220 --> 00:15:20,789 Certainly anyone who's involved in the case 295 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,270 from a family standpoint,this is a tough day. 296 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,012 But whatever the jury decides, we live with. 297 00:15:31,408 --> 00:15:33,454 ANGIE: At about 10 till midnight, 298 00:15:33,584 --> 00:15:35,935 they came back with a verdict. 299 00:15:36,065 --> 00:15:39,112 And as soon as I sat downand they brought the jurors in, 300 00:15:39,242 --> 00:15:40,461 I felt it in my stomach. 301 00:15:43,768 --> 00:15:48,686 I just remember, basically,when they read the verdict, 302 00:15:48,817 --> 00:15:51,646 them saying Anthony's name. 303 00:15:51,776 --> 00:15:52,908 Hearing all three guilties. 304 00:15:53,039 --> 00:15:55,955 And Blake stood up. 305 00:15:56,085 --> 00:15:59,393 He looked back, and hisface was just full of tears. 306 00:15:59,523 --> 00:16:02,309 Like, his face was all droopy. 307 00:16:02,439 --> 00:16:04,746 And I don't remember seeing anything else. 308 00:16:04,876 --> 00:16:08,706 [somber music] 309 00:16:49,182 --> 00:16:50,748 [sobbing] 310 00:16:50,879 --> 00:16:52,228 I wish that there would have been 311 00:16:52,359 --> 00:16:55,144 a different outcome becausethey did not commit a murder. 312 00:16:55,275 --> 00:16:58,017 They did not pull that trigger. 313 00:16:58,147 --> 00:16:59,279 CURTIS HILL: That's a tough message. 314 00:16:59,409 --> 00:17:00,758 But it's the right message, because we 315 00:17:00,889 --> 00:17:02,108 have to take a position that when 316 00:17:02,238 --> 00:17:04,023 you break into someone's home, you 317 00:17:04,153 --> 00:17:05,589 have to be held accountable. 318 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:10,812 It's certainly a verdictthat I think is appropriate. 319 00:17:10,942 --> 00:17:13,510 MALE REPORTER 2: Now an updateon a deadly Elkhart county home 320 00:17:13,641 --> 00:17:14,555 invasion that took place last-- 321 00:17:14,685 --> 00:17:15,817 FEMALE REPORTER 2: --weekend. 322 00:17:15,947 --> 00:17:16,992 And Kelly, those boyswill likely end up serving 323 00:17:17,123 --> 00:17:18,689 half their sentences, if that. 324 00:17:18,820 --> 00:17:21,127 FEMALE REPORTER 3: --because ofday-for-day credit in Indiana. 325 00:17:21,257 --> 00:17:23,738 The judge also recommended drug counseling 326 00:17:23,868 --> 00:17:26,828 for the three of them since theywere high on marijuana the day 327 00:17:26,958 --> 00:17:28,221 the home invasion happened. 328 00:17:28,351 --> 00:17:29,396 But their fight isn't over. 329 00:17:29,526 --> 00:17:30,179 FEMALE REPORTER 4: Now, this whole case has been 330 00:17:30,310 --> 00:17:31,354 going on for about 10 months. 331 00:17:31,485 --> 00:17:32,790 Is there any word the families will appeal? 332 00:17:32,921 --> 00:17:33,965 FEMALE REPORTER 5: They planto fight this until the end. 333 00:17:34,096 --> 00:17:35,228 So that could mean appeals. 334 00:17:35,358 --> 00:17:36,229 FEMALE REPORTER 4: All right. 335 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:37,447 Tricia Harte, live from the newsroom. 336 00:17:37,578 --> 00:17:38,318 Thank you. 337 00:17:45,542 --> 00:17:46,630 We'll never get this puzzle done. 338 00:17:46,761 --> 00:17:47,544 [chuckle] 339 00:17:50,417 --> 00:17:53,376 Curtis Hill can't catch areal murderer in Elkhart. 340 00:17:53,507 --> 00:17:55,987 So he's got to go and make stats for himself. 341 00:18:01,254 --> 00:18:02,864 I've always loved the United States. 342 00:18:02,994 --> 00:18:05,736 I've always had pride in the United States. 343 00:18:05,867 --> 00:18:07,260 But this is not just. 344 00:18:07,390 --> 00:18:10,654 That makes you wonder, is this the right place 345 00:18:10,785 --> 00:18:11,394 to raise my family? 346 00:18:14,571 --> 00:18:17,400 You break into a home that you think is empty. 347 00:18:17,531 --> 00:18:19,315 You don't have any weapons. 348 00:18:19,446 --> 00:18:22,971 You retreat the entire timewhen somebody comes in. 349 00:18:23,102 --> 00:18:26,888 How can the United States put some-- 350 00:18:27,018 --> 00:18:28,542 a child, no less-- 351 00:18:28,672 --> 00:18:30,152 not an adult, but a child-- 352 00:18:30,283 --> 00:18:32,589 in prison for that amount of time? 353 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:36,593 To completely destroy theirlife, their family life? 354 00:18:36,724 --> 00:18:39,466 And I understand that thischild should be punished. 355 00:18:39,596 --> 00:18:42,251 There's no doubt in my mind thatthat child should be punished. 356 00:18:42,382 --> 00:18:43,252 But-- 357 00:18:43,383 --> 00:18:44,558 People that actually kill someone-- 358 00:18:44,688 --> 00:18:45,341 Yes. 359 00:18:45,472 --> 00:18:46,429 --are getting less time than-- 360 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:48,039 Are getting less time than-- than this 361 00:18:48,170 --> 00:18:50,955 child that made a bad choice. 362 00:18:51,086 --> 00:18:52,522 And he needs to learn from that. 363 00:18:52,653 --> 00:18:53,393 But-- 364 00:18:53,523 --> 00:18:54,524 It wasn't murder. 365 00:18:54,655 --> 00:18:57,788 It was not murder. 366 00:18:57,919 --> 00:19:00,443 I mean, I can't even get on the internet sites 367 00:19:00,574 --> 00:19:02,576 where there's a storyabout this because people 368 00:19:02,706 --> 00:19:05,013 make me sick with the waythey're "lock these thugs up. 369 00:19:05,144 --> 00:19:06,232 They deserve everything they get." 370 00:19:06,362 --> 00:19:08,103 You don't know these kids. 371 00:19:08,234 --> 00:19:10,801 They're not gang members thathave been running the street. 372 00:19:10,932 --> 00:19:11,759 This is his first offense. 373 00:19:27,383 --> 00:19:30,081 ANGIE: This case has alreadycost us a lot of money. 374 00:19:30,212 --> 00:19:33,041 Paid our first lawyer 15,000. 375 00:19:33,172 --> 00:19:37,132 And now we're starting all over for the appeal. 376 00:19:37,263 --> 00:19:39,395 We have to find a new lawyer,which is probably going 377 00:19:39,526 --> 00:19:41,745 to cost more than that one did. 378 00:19:41,876 --> 00:19:45,053 So we're having prayer rally-slash-cookout. 379 00:19:45,184 --> 00:19:46,228 We're supplying the meat. 380 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:47,751 Everybody's [inaudible] inside. 381 00:19:47,882 --> 00:19:49,666 We'll have a jar out there. 382 00:19:49,797 --> 00:19:52,887 We're gonna try to raisemore money for the appeal. 383 00:19:53,017 --> 00:19:55,455 It's going to be a long, expensive process. 384 00:19:55,585 --> 00:19:56,760 RICK: I want to thankeach and every one of you 385 00:19:56,891 --> 00:19:58,240 for your support. 386 00:19:58,371 --> 00:20:01,200 We appreciate everything you've done. 387 00:20:01,330 --> 00:20:02,679 Appreciate you coming out here today 388 00:20:02,810 --> 00:20:05,769 to enjoy this beautiful Labor Day with us. 389 00:20:05,900 --> 00:20:09,947 And we would like to give something back now 390 00:20:10,078 --> 00:20:12,515 and give some thanks to the Good Lord. 391 00:20:12,646 --> 00:20:15,997 I ask, Father, that Youlook over these young men 392 00:20:16,127 --> 00:20:19,218 and give them the strengthand courage they need to lead 393 00:20:19,348 --> 00:20:21,176 others in hopes that they can be a light 394 00:20:21,307 --> 00:20:23,091 in a dark place, Father, and that they 395 00:20:23,222 --> 00:20:24,658 can lead others to You. 396 00:20:24,788 --> 00:20:26,747 In Jesus precious name we pray. 397 00:20:26,877 --> 00:20:27,878 Amen. 398 00:20:28,009 --> 00:20:29,271 [phone rings] 399 00:20:29,402 --> 00:20:30,577 You guys ready for some kickball or what? 400 00:20:30,707 --> 00:20:31,795 [laughter] 401 00:20:31,926 --> 00:20:34,233 Hello? 402 00:20:34,363 --> 00:20:35,582 What's up, son? 403 00:20:35,712 --> 00:20:38,541 We got a lot of people outhere that showed up, man. 404 00:20:38,672 --> 00:20:39,934 A lot of people showed up here to support 405 00:20:40,064 --> 00:20:41,240 you now and the cause. 406 00:20:44,895 --> 00:20:47,768 It's going to seem worse,but it'll get better. 407 00:20:47,898 --> 00:20:48,334 You know? 408 00:20:51,989 --> 00:20:55,732 [inaudible] I'm-- I'm gonnaput you on with Katherine, OK? 409 00:20:55,863 --> 00:20:56,994 She's-- she's mugging me. 410 00:20:57,125 --> 00:20:57,952 KATHERINE: No, I am not. 411 00:20:58,082 --> 00:21:00,824 She hasn't took her eyeballs off me. 412 00:21:00,955 --> 00:21:01,825 All right, son. 413 00:21:01,956 --> 00:21:02,870 I love you, Blake. 414 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:03,697 Keep your head up. 415 00:21:06,569 --> 00:21:07,309 Hello? 416 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:16,057 RICK: I missed a big part of Blake's life 417 00:21:16,187 --> 00:21:19,843 that I've spent in prison. 418 00:21:19,974 --> 00:21:22,106 They call it theDepartment of Corrections, 419 00:21:22,237 --> 00:21:24,544 but there's not much-- 420 00:21:24,674 --> 00:21:28,112 it's not really set up to correct anybody. 421 00:21:28,243 --> 00:21:29,897 Most of the people I knowthat have spent time-- 422 00:21:30,027 --> 00:21:34,205 long, long prison terms-- 423 00:21:34,336 --> 00:21:36,120 don't come out much better than what 424 00:21:36,251 --> 00:21:37,078 they were when they went in. 425 00:21:40,037 --> 00:21:41,517 There's no preparing yourself for that. 426 00:21:41,648 --> 00:21:43,606 But I try to talk to him and prepare 427 00:21:43,737 --> 00:21:49,133 him to be ready to deal withwhat he's going to experience. 428 00:21:54,095 --> 00:21:56,010 He's a strong kid. 429 00:21:56,140 --> 00:21:57,664 And I know he has the right intentions, 430 00:21:57,794 --> 00:22:00,275 and I know he'll do the right thing. 431 00:22:00,406 --> 00:22:01,929 But I'm scared for him. 432 00:22:02,059 --> 00:22:07,108 I-- I just can't-- 433 00:22:07,238 --> 00:22:08,414 I can't even find the words. 434 00:22:08,544 --> 00:22:09,284 I don't-- 435 00:22:21,470 --> 00:22:25,082 I don't want him to experiencethe things I experienced 436 00:22:25,213 --> 00:22:27,737 and make the choices I made. 437 00:22:27,868 --> 00:22:29,609 I wish I could, you know, push a button 438 00:22:29,739 --> 00:22:31,785 and make all this go away. 439 00:22:31,915 --> 00:22:36,006 Or go with him and protecthim every step of it. 440 00:22:43,405 --> 00:22:45,625 I'm home, and our family's reunited, 441 00:22:45,755 --> 00:22:46,539 and we're all together. 442 00:22:46,669 --> 00:22:48,192 It's what we've all always wanted, 443 00:22:48,323 --> 00:22:50,064 and he's been taken away. 444 00:23:13,479 --> 00:23:15,481 A long time ago, all I remember 445 00:23:15,611 --> 00:23:20,094 is watching "Cops" on TV and, like, 446 00:23:20,224 --> 00:23:23,967 seeing them help their communityand all other things that 447 00:23:24,098 --> 00:23:25,708 come along with being a cop. 448 00:23:25,839 --> 00:23:27,057 I wanted to be a part of that, you know? 449 00:23:27,188 --> 00:23:31,235 I wanted to be helping peopleand putting the bad ones away 450 00:23:31,366 --> 00:23:33,586 and, you know, all that. 451 00:23:33,716 --> 00:23:34,674 I was actually getting law enforcement 452 00:23:34,804 --> 00:23:36,415 credits at the career center. 453 00:23:36,545 --> 00:23:39,156 And then, in the middle ofall that, Blake got arrested. 454 00:23:42,333 --> 00:23:44,640 At first, I didn't really talkabout it with a lot of people 455 00:23:44,771 --> 00:23:47,295 because most of it was, you know, 456 00:23:47,426 --> 00:23:48,949 you're stupid for staying with him. 457 00:23:49,079 --> 00:23:52,822 And so I didn't really talkabout it law enforcement class. 458 00:23:52,953 --> 00:23:56,739 But when I did, it just made me want to cry. 459 00:23:56,870 --> 00:23:57,610 Like, it was bad. 460 00:24:11,275 --> 00:24:13,713 They were just thugs, and theydeserve to be where they are. 461 00:24:13,843 --> 00:24:16,672 And if they get life, well then, so be it. 462 00:24:16,803 --> 00:24:19,501 That was just a lot for me, especially 463 00:24:19,632 --> 00:24:21,329 since I've been datingthis kid for, like, a year. 464 00:24:21,460 --> 00:24:23,810 And everybody knows, and they just 465 00:24:23,940 --> 00:24:25,942 still decide to talk about it. 466 00:24:26,073 --> 00:24:28,467 It was hard. 467 00:24:28,597 --> 00:24:29,990 I just don't feel like I could ever 468 00:24:30,120 --> 00:24:33,559 be a part of law enforcement. 469 00:24:33,689 --> 00:24:36,953 I know I should have pursuedit and made a change. 470 00:24:37,084 --> 00:24:39,521 But there was just something about it 471 00:24:39,652 --> 00:24:50,837 that I just cut everybody off 472 00:24:50,967 --> 00:24:52,752 ANGIE: Destiny, what are you studying? 473 00:24:52,882 --> 00:24:53,579 Triangles. 474 00:24:53,709 --> 00:24:54,754 Oh, I seen that you were looking 475 00:24:54,884 --> 00:24:56,320 triangles up on the iPad. 476 00:24:56,451 --> 00:24:57,931 Oh, yeah. 477 00:24:58,061 --> 00:25:00,455 You must've been havingtrouble with your homework. 478 00:25:00,586 --> 00:25:01,325 This is confusing. 479 00:25:04,764 --> 00:25:05,504 90 plus 26. 480 00:25:09,029 --> 00:25:10,683 That's two angles. 481 00:25:10,813 --> 00:25:14,121 This whole situation wasreally, really hard for Destiny. 482 00:25:14,251 --> 00:25:17,211 When she was born, she was diagnosed with 483 00:25:17,341 --> 00:25:20,344 an astrocytomas brain tumor. 484 00:25:20,475 --> 00:25:22,172 They say that it was not operable. 485 00:25:22,303 --> 00:25:23,043 It spread out. 486 00:25:23,173 --> 00:25:25,001 It's not like a one-spot tumor. 487 00:25:25,132 --> 00:25:29,745 It's different spots all over the brain. 488 00:25:29,876 --> 00:25:31,442 The doctors were sayingshe was going to be blind. 489 00:25:31,573 --> 00:25:32,966 You know, they thoughtshe probably wouldn't even 490 00:25:33,096 --> 00:25:34,968 make it till five. 491 00:25:35,098 --> 00:25:37,057 She started chemo right away. 492 00:25:37,187 --> 00:25:38,972 She's been through a few roundsof chemo through the years. 493 00:25:39,102 --> 00:25:40,147 What time is it? 494 00:25:40,277 --> 00:25:41,017 [inaudible] 495 00:25:41,148 --> 00:25:44,107 I don't know, but we can go. 496 00:25:44,238 --> 00:25:46,414 Yeah, 8:24. 497 00:25:46,545 --> 00:25:49,809 But she pretty much quit whenthis all happened with Blake. 498 00:25:49,939 --> 00:25:51,027 That was her rock. 499 00:25:51,158 --> 00:25:51,941 Blake did a lot. 500 00:25:52,072 --> 00:25:53,334 He went to chemo. 501 00:25:53,464 --> 00:25:56,555 Did the medicine with herin the middle of night. 502 00:25:56,685 --> 00:25:57,860 Very involved with Destiny. 503 00:25:57,991 --> 00:25:59,906 So when this situation happened, she 504 00:26:00,036 --> 00:26:01,429 refused to take chemo pills. 505 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,563 She just stopped. 506 00:26:04,693 --> 00:26:07,087 So we had to have a meeting at the hospital 507 00:26:07,217 --> 00:26:09,611 with the nurse, the doctor. 508 00:26:09,742 --> 00:26:12,266 We all discussed what to do in the situation, 509 00:26:12,396 --> 00:26:16,270 and we chose to let her take a break. 510 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,620 So she has been totally off everything. 511 00:26:18,751 --> 00:26:22,406 But she still has the brain tumor. 512 00:26:22,537 --> 00:26:24,234 Every three months, we go to the hospital. 513 00:26:24,365 --> 00:26:29,109 Get an MRI check on it, makesure it's not growing any. 514 00:26:29,239 --> 00:26:31,024 Unfortunately, we kind ofgot a little rough news 515 00:26:31,154 --> 00:26:34,114 that there was a little bitof color difference, which 516 00:26:34,244 --> 00:26:36,203 means that it could be active. 517 00:26:36,333 --> 00:26:37,683 But we're going to just watch it, 518 00:26:37,813 --> 00:26:39,293 and hopefully we'll just stay on break, 519 00:26:39,423 --> 00:26:40,076 and we won't have to [inaudible] 520 00:26:40,207 --> 00:26:41,251 Oh, I'm late. 521 00:26:41,382 --> 00:26:42,296 I'm getting out of the car. 522 00:26:42,426 --> 00:26:43,166 ANGIE: All right. 523 00:26:43,297 --> 00:26:44,298 I love you. 524 00:26:44,428 --> 00:26:45,473 DESTINY: I'll probably never see you again. 525 00:26:45,604 --> 00:26:47,214 ANGIE: Destiny! 526 00:26:47,344 --> 00:26:50,173 All right, I'll be here atwhat time, um, to pick you up? 527 00:26:50,304 --> 00:26:52,219 Oh my gosh. 528 00:26:52,349 --> 00:26:53,960 I love you! 529 00:26:54,090 --> 00:26:54,830 DESTINY: No, you don't. 530 00:26:54,961 --> 00:26:57,311 ANGIE: [chuckling] Bye, Destiny! 531 00:27:15,329 --> 00:27:17,157 Son? 532 00:27:17,287 --> 00:27:18,724 Come on, baby. 533 00:27:18,854 --> 00:27:20,029 WOMAN: Do you want to tryand [inaudible] or no? 534 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:20,856 BOY: No, I'm good.WOMAN: Do you want to light his? 535 00:27:20,987 --> 00:27:22,336 BOY: No, I'm good! 536 00:27:22,466 --> 00:27:24,643 It may go out of the way, butwe'll relight it if it does. 537 00:27:56,849 --> 00:27:59,678 ANGIE: We just want to rememberthe day there was a life lost 538 00:27:59,808 --> 00:28:02,724 here, and a young man too soon. 539 00:28:02,855 --> 00:28:04,552 Way too soon. 540 00:28:04,683 --> 00:28:07,686 Danzele's mom will neverbe able to hug him again. 541 00:28:07,816 --> 00:28:08,556 BOY: Amen. 542 00:28:08,687 --> 00:28:09,470 WOMAN: Amen. 543 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,167 Amen. 544 00:28:11,298 --> 00:28:13,517 BOY: If we could all justbow our heads for a minute. 545 00:28:13,648 --> 00:28:16,607 Dear Heavenly Father, wecome to you on this holy day 546 00:28:16,738 --> 00:28:20,089 just to ask for Danzele's family. 547 00:28:20,220 --> 00:28:21,961 Let their grief be short,and just let them know 548 00:28:22,091 --> 00:28:23,658 that he's in a better place. 549 00:28:23,789 --> 00:28:25,442 We come here not only for the Elkhart four, 550 00:28:25,573 --> 00:28:29,185 but know that there's anotherangel up there in Your heaven. 551 00:28:29,316 --> 00:28:31,840 And just help us push everyday to fight for what we know 552 00:28:31,971 --> 00:28:33,276 is right. 553 00:28:33,407 --> 00:28:34,495 And we thank you. 554 00:28:34,625 --> 00:28:36,149 Son Jesus Christ precious,holy name, we pray. 555 00:28:36,279 --> 00:28:37,019 Amen. 556 00:28:37,150 --> 00:28:37,890 CROWD: Amen. 557 00:28:59,999 --> 00:29:02,653 Danzele's mother had come to visit me. 558 00:29:02,784 --> 00:29:05,918 I didn't know how the familyfelt about what had happened. 559 00:29:06,048 --> 00:29:07,049 You know, I didn't know if she was going 560 00:29:07,180 --> 00:29:09,530 to come up here and yell at me. 561 00:29:09,660 --> 00:29:11,750 But she told me, thank youfor staying with Danzele 562 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,101 while everything was happening. 563 00:29:15,231 --> 00:29:16,755 You know, he's 21 years old. 564 00:29:16,885 --> 00:29:18,800 That's-- That's young. 565 00:29:18,931 --> 00:29:20,628 He had so much life. 566 00:29:20,759 --> 00:29:22,238 And now-- you know what I mean? 567 00:29:22,369 --> 00:29:27,809 And I told his mom, when Iget out, I will not mess up. 568 00:29:27,940 --> 00:29:29,158 I will do right. 569 00:29:29,289 --> 00:29:32,466 Because I feel like I'mdoing it not only for myself, 570 00:29:32,596 --> 00:29:34,163 but for Danzele as well. 571 00:29:34,294 --> 00:29:39,429 Because he's not going toget the chance, you know? 572 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:40,953 I mean, I feel bad every day. 573 00:29:41,083 --> 00:29:42,345 I feel bad for the homeowner. 574 00:29:42,476 --> 00:29:45,522 And I feel like a lot of people don't-- 575 00:29:45,653 --> 00:29:46,567 really don't look at him. 576 00:29:49,613 --> 00:29:51,224 He had all the right to do what he did. 577 00:29:51,354 --> 00:29:53,313 We were in the wrong 100%. 578 00:29:53,443 --> 00:29:56,664 And I don't want him tothink anything different. 579 00:29:56,795 --> 00:29:58,622 He did what he had to do. 580 00:29:58,753 --> 00:30:00,755 That was our mistake. 581 00:30:00,886 --> 00:30:02,452 I'm sorry he has to live withthat for the rest of his life. 582 00:30:05,455 --> 00:30:06,935 [clank] 583 00:30:08,632 --> 00:30:09,459 ANGIE: Destiny! 584 00:30:09,590 --> 00:30:10,504 Destiny [inaudible]! 585 00:30:17,990 --> 00:30:18,817 You excited to see your brother? 586 00:30:18,947 --> 00:30:19,687 Mm-hmm. 587 00:30:19,818 --> 00:30:21,297 ANGIE: Yeah? 588 00:30:21,428 --> 00:30:23,038 - I get really anxious. - Yeah. 589 00:30:23,169 --> 00:30:24,083 KATHERINE: My stomach starts to hurt, 590 00:30:24,213 --> 00:30:25,475 like, right before we go in. 591 00:30:25,606 --> 00:30:29,392 If I look good, or if I look weird, or-- 592 00:30:29,523 --> 00:30:30,306 everything's gotta be right. 593 00:30:30,437 --> 00:30:32,482 [phone rings] 594 00:30:32,613 --> 00:30:33,701 Oh, this is one of the boys now. 595 00:30:33,832 --> 00:30:34,571 It's Anthony. 596 00:30:37,705 --> 00:30:42,188 FEMALE VOICE [ON PHONE]: Yourcurrent balance is $10.17. 597 00:30:42,318 --> 00:30:43,798 Hi, Ant! 598 00:30:43,929 --> 00:30:45,278 Hey, Anthony. 599 00:30:45,408 --> 00:30:46,322 DESTINY: Hi, Ant. 600 00:30:46,453 --> 00:30:47,802 That was Katherine and Destiny. 601 00:30:47,933 --> 00:30:48,934 You're on speakerphone. 602 00:30:53,503 --> 00:30:54,330 So how's it going? 603 00:30:54,461 --> 00:30:54,896 You OK? 604 00:31:00,597 --> 00:31:02,251 Watch your mouth! 605 00:31:02,382 --> 00:31:08,649 [snickering] All you guys have--your mouth has gotten bad. 606 00:31:08,779 --> 00:31:10,651 Yeah, Katherine's being a butthole because she 607 00:31:10,781 --> 00:31:11,782 thinks that we're lost. 608 00:31:11,913 --> 00:31:12,871 KATHERINE: What do you mean, a "butthole"? 609 00:31:13,001 --> 00:31:14,524 She's just driving straight. 610 00:31:14,655 --> 00:31:15,917 We can be in freaking California by now, 611 00:31:16,048 --> 00:31:18,050 for all she knows, but no. 612 00:31:18,180 --> 00:31:21,096 I'm kind of glad that I hadBlake first because now, having 613 00:31:21,227 --> 00:31:23,925 a girl, because I have Katherinenow instead of Blake right now. 614 00:31:24,056 --> 00:31:24,926 Whew! 615 00:31:25,057 --> 00:31:26,275 So, what is wrong with you? 616 00:31:26,406 --> 00:31:27,233 You're having chest pains? 617 00:31:32,281 --> 00:31:33,761 Well, you need to worry about it, 618 00:31:33,892 --> 00:31:35,632 because that could be serious. 619 00:31:35,763 --> 00:31:37,678 You probably should tell the nurse or something. 620 00:31:41,334 --> 00:31:42,422 No, you need to do that. 621 00:31:42,552 --> 00:31:44,206 I'll-- I'll pay for it. 622 00:31:44,337 --> 00:31:45,425 ANTHONY [ON PHONE] Aw, man. 623 00:31:45,555 --> 00:31:46,730 ANGIE: I'm gonna pay for it! 624 00:31:46,861 --> 00:31:47,557 You need to get it checked out. 625 00:31:47,688 --> 00:31:48,428 It could be serious. 626 00:31:52,258 --> 00:31:53,476 Much love, Anthony. 627 00:31:53,607 --> 00:31:56,479 Bye! 628 00:31:56,610 --> 00:31:57,741 You keep your head up you. 629 00:31:57,872 --> 00:31:59,743 And you study for that test. 630 00:31:59,874 --> 00:32:02,094 All right, love you. 631 00:32:02,224 --> 00:32:04,183 Yeah, you too. 632 00:32:04,313 --> 00:32:05,053 [music playing] 633 00:32:05,184 --> 00:32:06,402 This is mine and Blake's song. 634 00:32:06,533 --> 00:32:08,013 Oh, gosh. 635 00:32:08,143 --> 00:32:12,017 [inaudible] on the way? 636 00:32:12,147 --> 00:32:13,975 [chuckle] 637 00:32:15,759 --> 00:32:19,938 [music continues] 638 00:32:57,845 --> 00:32:59,934 KATHERINE: Blake told me thatyou never put me through him 639 00:33:00,065 --> 00:33:03,764 going to jail for 55 years. 640 00:33:03,894 --> 00:33:08,029 But I have never resignedabout breaking up 641 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,510 because you've gotta staystrong for each other. 642 00:33:14,601 --> 00:33:15,341 ANGIE: Destiny. 643 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:20,259 Destiny, honey! 644 00:33:20,389 --> 00:33:21,521 We're here.We've gotta see your brother. 645 00:33:21,651 --> 00:33:22,391 Come on. 646 00:33:30,791 --> 00:33:31,792 Sweating? You hot? 647 00:33:31,922 --> 00:33:32,662 You nervous? 648 00:33:32,793 --> 00:33:34,142 [laughs] 649 00:33:35,491 --> 00:33:36,536 You're OK. 650 00:33:36,666 --> 00:33:38,277 [chuckles] 651 00:33:38,407 --> 00:33:41,019 You don't get to see himevery day, so I gotta look good. 652 00:33:41,149 --> 00:33:42,020 It's like a date. 653 00:33:42,150 --> 00:33:42,890 Yeah. 654 00:33:43,021 --> 00:33:44,196 Every 14 days, huh? 655 00:33:44,326 --> 00:33:45,066 With his mom. 656 00:33:48,765 --> 00:33:51,942 [groaning] 657 00:33:54,684 --> 00:33:55,859 Come on! 658 00:33:55,990 --> 00:33:56,860 I can't feel my feet! 659 00:34:08,568 --> 00:34:10,265 MALE REPORTER 3: The ElkhartFour is now obviously 660 00:34:10,396 --> 00:34:11,571 a big story in our area. 661 00:34:11,701 --> 00:34:12,833 Very high profile. 662 00:34:12,963 --> 00:34:14,269 FEMALE REPORTER 6: It'sbeen a controversial case 663 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,097 from the beginning. 664 00:34:16,228 --> 00:34:17,925 ANGIE: I get aggravatedwhen people call them thugs, 665 00:34:18,056 --> 00:34:19,709 because they're not thugs. 666 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,104 They made a bad choice at 16. 667 00:34:23,235 --> 00:34:26,325 MAN: I think they did the crime, they do the time. 668 00:34:26,455 --> 00:34:28,631 JENNIFER: To be in jail for that many years-- 669 00:34:28,762 --> 00:34:30,329 there was no murder. 670 00:34:30,459 --> 00:34:32,113 People who murder people get out in less 671 00:34:32,244 --> 00:34:33,636 time than with these boys. 672 00:34:40,165 --> 00:34:43,777 This sounds like thecourts approved some briefs 673 00:34:43,907 --> 00:34:44,952 from the forensic court. 674 00:34:45,083 --> 00:34:45,822 Sounds good. 675 00:34:48,347 --> 00:34:49,087 TAMMY: Change. 676 00:34:49,217 --> 00:34:50,566 You're clicking the wrong one. 677 00:34:50,697 --> 00:34:51,698 The wrong button. 678 00:34:51,828 --> 00:34:52,568 Thank you. 679 00:34:52,699 --> 00:34:54,570 [awkward laugh] 680 00:34:54,701 --> 00:34:57,312 TAMMY: "Appeals courtapproved two supported briefs. 681 00:34:57,443 --> 00:34:59,575 Several groups not directly associated 682 00:34:59,706 --> 00:35:02,665 with the Elkhart Four have askedto file briefs in the appeals." 683 00:35:02,796 --> 00:35:03,927 ANGIE: So these are people that just 684 00:35:04,058 --> 00:35:05,929 asked if they could put their two cents in 685 00:35:06,060 --> 00:35:07,453 and the judge approved it? 686 00:35:07,583 --> 00:35:09,455 TAMMY: "Each of these amicus are being filed 687 00:35:09,585 --> 00:35:11,239 in support of Blake and Levi. 688 00:35:11,370 --> 00:35:13,850 It is easy to guess that they will be relying 689 00:35:13,981 --> 00:35:16,766 on recent scientific evidencedifferentiating the adolescent 690 00:35:16,897 --> 00:35:20,118 from the adult brain to supporttheir submission to the court." 691 00:35:20,248 --> 00:35:21,467 Huh. 692 00:35:21,597 --> 00:35:24,861 So I'm assuming the judgecould say, no, they don't 693 00:35:24,992 --> 00:35:26,776 have nothing to do with it? 694 00:35:26,907 --> 00:35:29,649 But they're accepting it. 695 00:35:29,779 --> 00:35:32,347 So I guess that's really good news, yeah. 696 00:35:32,478 --> 00:35:33,261 And I like this-- 697 00:35:33,392 --> 00:35:34,697 KATHERINE: Hold on, he's calling. 698 00:35:34,828 --> 00:35:36,743 Tell him I said hi. 699 00:35:36,873 --> 00:35:37,787 BLAKE [ON PHONE] Blake. 700 00:35:37,918 --> 00:35:38,788 OPERATOR: To accept charges, press 4. 701 00:35:38,919 --> 00:35:39,659 [beep] 702 00:35:39,789 --> 00:35:41,574 Hello? 703 00:35:41,704 --> 00:35:42,140 Hi. 704 00:35:45,273 --> 00:35:46,753 Good morning. 705 00:35:46,883 --> 00:35:48,407 ANGIE: Maybe we should call the lawyer 706 00:35:48,537 --> 00:35:51,497 and ask her these questionsabout these updates. 707 00:35:51,627 --> 00:35:52,672 TAMMY: All right. 708 00:35:52,802 --> 00:35:54,108 She's usually really good about letting us 709 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:55,153 know everything anyways, but-- 710 00:36:01,681 --> 00:36:02,769 We're bothering her on a Saturday. 711 00:36:02,899 --> 00:36:04,597 I know. 712 00:36:04,727 --> 00:36:07,121 Probably if she doesn't want tobe bothered, she won't answer. 713 00:36:07,252 --> 00:36:07,991 Kind of like [inaudible]. 714 00:36:08,122 --> 00:36:09,210 CARA [ON PHONE]: Cara. - Yeah. 715 00:36:09,341 --> 00:36:10,037 Hi, Cara. 716 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:13,780 All right, fine. 717 00:36:13,910 --> 00:36:16,739 I'll just buy myself a ring. 718 00:36:16,870 --> 00:36:17,610 I'm just kidding. 719 00:36:17,740 --> 00:36:18,959 Calm down. 720 00:36:19,089 --> 00:36:20,090 I wish you were here. 721 00:36:24,486 --> 00:36:27,533 TAMMY: We had somequestions on the appeals. 722 00:36:27,663 --> 00:36:31,406 We've told you about theblog for the Elkhart Four? 723 00:36:31,537 --> 00:36:32,538 Let me just read you a little bit of it. 724 00:36:32,668 --> 00:36:35,062 "The Indiana Court of Appealsapproved the inclusion 725 00:36:35,193 --> 00:36:38,674 of two amicus briefs submittedby friends of the court, 726 00:36:38,805 --> 00:36:41,155 supporting the appeals filed by Blake Layman 727 00:36:41,286 --> 00:36:44,593 and Levi Sparks for their 2013felony murder conviction." 728 00:36:44,724 --> 00:36:46,552 So I guess we're askingexactly what does that mean? 729 00:36:46,682 --> 00:36:47,683 That's a good, good thing, right? 730 00:36:54,908 --> 00:36:55,909 That's good. 731 00:36:56,039 --> 00:36:57,084 CARA [ON PHONE]: Yeah. 732 00:36:57,215 --> 00:36:57,911 Are you hopeful at this point? 733 00:37:03,003 --> 00:37:05,788 Hey, what time are you gonna call me later? 734 00:37:05,919 --> 00:37:06,659 10:00? 735 00:37:09,401 --> 00:37:10,140 OK. 736 00:37:15,015 --> 00:37:18,627 [ANGRILY] 10:30? 737 00:37:18,758 --> 00:37:19,933 Oh. 738 00:37:20,063 --> 00:37:23,284 Like, 4:00 and then 10:00. 739 00:37:30,073 --> 00:37:34,077 [barking noises] [chuckle] 740 00:37:38,430 --> 00:37:39,692 Oh, because he wasn't a juvenile. 741 00:37:50,833 --> 00:37:51,573 Right, right. 742 00:37:55,490 --> 00:37:56,491 I'm just worried about [inaudible].. 743 00:37:59,451 --> 00:38:01,017 I feel like he's getting left behind. 744 00:38:01,148 --> 00:38:03,498 CARA [ON PHONE]: Yeah. 745 00:38:03,629 --> 00:38:04,456 I miss you, too. 746 00:38:04,586 --> 00:38:06,501 Be good. 747 00:38:06,632 --> 00:38:07,981 And keep your head up. 748 00:38:08,111 --> 00:38:10,375 And call me at 4:00 or I'llpunch you in the nose, and OK. 749 00:38:10,505 --> 00:38:11,289 OPERATOR: You have one minute left. 750 00:38:11,419 --> 00:38:13,682 I love you. 751 00:38:13,813 --> 00:38:14,857 I miss you, too. 752 00:38:14,988 --> 00:38:17,251 K, bye. 753 00:38:17,382 --> 00:38:18,252 Love you. 754 00:38:18,383 --> 00:38:19,601 I really-- 755 00:38:19,732 --> 00:38:20,689 I have a lot of faith in her. 756 00:38:20,820 --> 00:38:21,690 I do too. 757 00:38:21,821 --> 00:38:22,691 And she does sound pretty confident. 758 00:38:22,822 --> 00:38:23,562 I like that. 759 00:39:04,037 --> 00:39:06,953 This is my first visit right here. 760 00:39:07,083 --> 00:39:09,738 It was the first time Iactually got to give Katherine 761 00:39:09,869 --> 00:39:11,349 a hug in, like, a year. 762 00:39:11,479 --> 00:39:12,350 Or a little over a year. 763 00:39:16,789 --> 00:39:18,878 She's always been there for me. 764 00:39:19,008 --> 00:39:22,185 And it helps so much to look forward to that, 765 00:39:22,316 --> 00:39:26,189 to have someone to call,to have someone to talk to. 766 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,236 To even just, you know, complain about your day, 767 00:39:29,367 --> 00:39:32,544 or hear them complain about their day. 768 00:39:32,674 --> 00:39:34,546 And I want to show her that, you know, 769 00:39:34,676 --> 00:39:36,678 I really do mean when I say, I really do mean 770 00:39:36,809 --> 00:39:37,940 I want to be with you forever. 771 00:39:38,071 --> 00:39:38,898 You know, I'm not-- 772 00:39:39,028 --> 00:39:40,029 not leading you on. 773 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,163 I'm not doing anything like that, you know? 774 00:39:43,293 --> 00:39:44,382 I proposed to her. 775 00:39:44,512 --> 00:39:45,818 You know, I-- 776 00:39:45,948 --> 00:39:47,776 I kind of can't do it, youknow, the normal way in here. 777 00:39:47,907 --> 00:39:50,866 But I called my grandma and told her, 778 00:39:50,997 --> 00:39:53,042 you know, hey, tell her yougot a T-shirt or something, 779 00:39:53,173 --> 00:39:54,435 you know. 780 00:39:54,566 --> 00:39:55,741 Have her come over to the house, and you 781 00:39:55,871 --> 00:39:57,090 give her this ring for me. 782 00:39:57,220 --> 00:40:00,876 And I called her later on that night. 783 00:40:01,007 --> 00:40:03,096 Or I called her earlier that dayand told her, you know, like, 784 00:40:03,226 --> 00:40:04,184 will you marry me? 785 00:40:04,314 --> 00:40:05,533 And obviously she said, yeah. 786 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:33,474 Rick moved out. 787 00:40:36,825 --> 00:40:38,610 It's just a lot of stresson the relationship. 788 00:40:41,830 --> 00:40:43,484 It was overwhelming for him. 789 00:40:43,615 --> 00:40:45,138 You're locked up for this many years, 790 00:40:45,268 --> 00:40:47,749 and you get out to your child locked up. 791 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,795 And now you're on the other side, and-- 792 00:40:49,925 --> 00:40:51,623 where before, it wasalways Blake visiting him. 793 00:40:55,148 --> 00:40:58,412 We argued sometimes about moneybecause he didn't understand. 794 00:40:58,543 --> 00:41:00,414 He didn't even know how to control the lights 795 00:41:00,545 --> 00:41:02,024 because he's never had to. 796 00:41:02,155 --> 00:41:03,765 So, like, I would come home,and every light in the house 797 00:41:03,896 --> 00:41:05,027 would be on. 798 00:41:05,158 --> 00:41:06,986 And I wouldn't complainabout it because I knew-- 799 00:41:07,116 --> 00:41:08,640 in the back of my head, I'mlike, gosh, that's because he's 800 00:41:08,770 --> 00:41:10,119 been locked up for so long. 801 00:41:10,250 --> 00:41:11,207 He didn't understand finances. 802 00:41:14,123 --> 00:41:16,735 I think it was easier for himto walk away and just leave 803 00:41:16,865 --> 00:41:20,652 the situation and not focus on what 804 00:41:20,782 --> 00:41:21,696 I have to focus on every day. 805 00:41:34,448 --> 00:41:35,928 How do you feel about your MRI? 806 00:41:36,058 --> 00:41:36,798 Crappy. 807 00:41:36,929 --> 00:41:38,017 Crappy? 808 00:41:38,147 --> 00:41:39,453 Because I don't want to go in there 809 00:41:39,584 --> 00:41:40,889 and sit there for an hour, and then 810 00:41:41,020 --> 00:41:42,021 have to go to an eye appointment. 811 00:41:42,151 --> 00:41:42,978 You just don't wanna do it? 812 00:41:43,109 --> 00:41:44,458 No. I'm tired. 813 00:41:44,589 --> 00:41:45,328 Me too. 814 00:42:02,694 --> 00:42:04,522 I feel real nauseous. 815 00:42:04,652 --> 00:42:05,479 Do you? 816 00:42:10,179 --> 00:42:12,181 MAN: All right, sweetie. 817 00:42:12,312 --> 00:42:16,577 I want you to just look at the green line, OK? 818 00:42:16,708 --> 00:42:17,752 Cool. 819 00:42:17,883 --> 00:42:20,059 Now put your arm back under this blanket here. 820 00:42:20,189 --> 00:42:21,843 [inaudible] or anything, OK? 821 00:42:21,974 --> 00:42:22,975 Thanks for doing such a good job. 822 00:42:23,105 --> 00:42:36,728 [inaudible] Oh? 823 00:42:36,858 --> 00:42:37,946 Awesome. 824 00:42:38,077 --> 00:42:39,121 Thank you. 825 00:42:39,252 --> 00:42:39,992 WOMAN: You're welcome. 826 00:42:40,122 --> 00:42:41,254 So close. 827 00:42:41,384 --> 00:42:44,039 ANGIE: I wonder if that's Blake. 828 00:42:44,170 --> 00:42:45,432 It is. 829 00:42:45,563 --> 00:42:47,521 Uh. 830 00:42:47,652 --> 00:42:48,783 DESTINY: Did he remember? 831 00:42:48,914 --> 00:42:51,003 I don't know, maybe. 832 00:42:51,133 --> 00:42:52,831 Hi, Son. 833 00:42:52,961 --> 00:42:53,701 What's up? 834 00:42:53,832 --> 00:42:54,920 How are you? 835 00:42:55,050 --> 00:42:55,790 Yeah. 836 00:42:58,097 --> 00:42:59,228 That's awesome. 837 00:42:59,359 --> 00:43:00,360 Right, because Destinywas like, did he remember? 838 00:43:03,363 --> 00:43:04,103 Hello? 839 00:43:08,629 --> 00:43:10,065 WOMAN: Hi, is Destiny in here? 840 00:43:10,196 --> 00:43:11,414 ANGIE: Yeah, she's in here. 841 00:43:11,545 --> 00:43:14,026 All right, I love you too. 842 00:43:14,156 --> 00:43:16,158 All right, bye. 843 00:43:16,289 --> 00:43:17,290 Let's check you out. 844 00:43:17,420 --> 00:43:19,248 [inhales sharply] 845 00:43:21,990 --> 00:43:23,252 Have you been feeling well?- Yeah. 846 00:43:23,383 --> 00:43:24,123 ANGIE: I'm sorry, Son. 847 00:43:24,253 --> 00:43:25,603 I need to talk to the doctor. 848 00:43:25,733 --> 00:43:26,604 I love you too, Son. 849 00:43:26,734 --> 00:43:27,474 I miss you a lot. 850 00:43:39,529 --> 00:43:40,835 MALE REPORTER 4: Now, There's a battle 851 00:43:40,966 --> 00:43:42,750 in Indiana for the job asthe state's attorney general. 852 00:43:42,881 --> 00:43:44,012 FEMALE REPORTER 7: That's right. 853 00:43:44,143 --> 00:43:46,449 Curtis Hill has prosecutedcases in Elkhart County 854 00:43:46,580 --> 00:43:47,973 since the early 2000s. 855 00:43:48,103 --> 00:43:49,757 But he's looking to start a new chapter 856 00:43:49,888 --> 00:43:51,846 in his political career. 857 00:43:51,977 --> 00:43:53,935 Hill argues the skills for an Attorney General 858 00:43:54,066 --> 00:43:56,155 are very similar to that of a prosecutor. 859 00:43:56,285 --> 00:43:57,678 There's fact finding in that. 860 00:43:57,809 --> 00:43:59,158 There's investigation review. 861 00:43:59,288 --> 00:44:02,814 There's a determination ofwrong conduct and right conduct. 862 00:44:02,944 --> 00:44:05,860 And then you expand that to an entire state. 863 00:44:05,991 --> 00:44:10,169 And the idea is to create a tenor of safety 864 00:44:10,299 --> 00:44:14,173 for as many people as possible. 865 00:44:14,303 --> 00:44:17,480 [gentle music] 866 00:44:57,695 --> 00:44:59,261 WOMAN: Welcome, everybody. 867 00:44:59,392 --> 00:45:03,004 This morning, normalvisitation rules don't apply. 868 00:45:03,135 --> 00:45:06,965 So you can give your welcoming hug and kiss, 869 00:45:07,095 --> 00:45:08,314 and we'll get started. 870 00:45:08,444 --> 00:45:09,184 I love you. 871 00:45:09,315 --> 00:45:11,099 I love you. 872 00:45:11,230 --> 00:45:14,015 All right, I want you to look at your partner. 873 00:45:14,146 --> 00:45:16,235 Look them square in theeye, and just say, honey. 874 00:45:16,365 --> 00:45:17,236 Honey. 875 00:45:17,366 --> 00:45:18,759 MAN: Let's talk. 876 00:45:18,890 --> 00:45:20,761 Honey, let's talk. 877 00:45:20,892 --> 00:45:22,632 What does goodcommunication look, like? 878 00:45:22,763 --> 00:45:24,678 Just brainstorm that for a minute. 879 00:45:24,809 --> 00:45:26,375 What's that say? 880 00:45:26,506 --> 00:45:27,376 Listening and understanding. 881 00:45:27,507 --> 00:45:28,638 WOMAN: How much do you care-- 882 00:45:28,769 --> 00:45:30,902 truly care-- about that individual 883 00:45:31,032 --> 00:45:35,863 that you have to put somebody down like that. 884 00:45:35,994 --> 00:45:37,386 When we talk about puttingdown, how do you think 885 00:45:37,517 --> 00:45:41,042 it affects your physical state? 886 00:45:41,173 --> 00:45:45,351 [mellow music] 887 00:46:24,999 --> 00:46:27,959 It's hard not to get discouraged. 888 00:46:28,089 --> 00:46:31,963 I don't want to forever belabeled a murderer because when 889 00:46:32,093 --> 00:46:34,226 I got out to get a job,they look up my background, 890 00:46:34,356 --> 00:46:35,314 and it's going to say murder. 891 00:46:35,444 --> 00:46:36,619 It's not going to say felony murder 892 00:46:36,750 --> 00:46:38,491 and tell them all about my case. 893 00:46:38,621 --> 00:46:41,059 It's going to say murder. 894 00:46:41,189 --> 00:46:42,321 Not a lot of people will look over that. 895 00:46:50,590 --> 00:46:55,987 My earliest possible releasedate is April 3, 2040. 896 00:46:56,117 --> 00:46:57,075 That's my earliest possible release date. 897 00:47:01,644 --> 00:47:03,081 I don't think it takes 27 year-- 898 00:47:03,211 --> 00:47:06,867 27 and 1/2 years to figureout, OK, I fucked up. 899 00:47:06,998 --> 00:47:10,479 OK, I need to change mymindset to be better to change 900 00:47:10,610 --> 00:47:12,525 and succeed in society. 901 00:47:12,655 --> 00:47:15,658 Become something. 902 00:47:15,789 --> 00:47:18,618 For me, I know it didn't take that long. 903 00:47:18,748 --> 00:47:20,011 Hell, I feel like I'm ready now. 904 00:47:23,928 --> 00:47:26,365 I've been down here two years. 905 00:47:26,495 --> 00:47:29,107 I'll do some more time on top of it, though. 906 00:47:29,237 --> 00:47:30,021 I committed a crime. 907 00:47:30,151 --> 00:47:30,891 I'll sit here, you know? 908 00:47:31,022 --> 00:47:32,545 That's part of the consequences. 909 00:47:32,675 --> 00:47:35,678 But 20-something years? 910 00:47:35,809 --> 00:47:39,117 You know, I feel like thattakes away from the things 911 00:47:39,247 --> 00:47:41,684 that you decided you were going to change. 912 00:47:41,815 --> 00:47:43,208 And you're surrounded by negative. 913 00:47:43,338 --> 00:47:45,471 You're surrounded by fighting. 914 00:47:45,601 --> 00:47:48,561 But you have to continueto keep a good mentality, 915 00:47:48,691 --> 00:47:49,997 like, OK, I can do better. 916 00:47:50,128 --> 00:47:53,305 I can still become something in life. 917 00:47:53,435 --> 00:47:56,177 I imagine myself in an apartment, you know? 918 00:47:56,308 --> 00:47:57,613 Hell, probably with a kid, you know? 919 00:48:01,748 --> 00:48:02,575 This is where I am. 920 00:48:05,665 --> 00:48:07,145 It's sad and it sucks. 921 00:48:19,374 --> 00:48:20,985 Over time, they just kind of wear you down 922 00:48:21,115 --> 00:48:22,551 and wear you down. 923 00:48:22,682 --> 00:48:23,639 Your visit's here. 924 00:48:23,770 --> 00:48:24,640 OK. 925 00:48:24,771 --> 00:48:25,511 Thank you. 926 00:48:37,610 --> 00:48:39,655 That's one of my biggestfears, is it's going to like-- 927 00:48:39,786 --> 00:48:43,746 it messing up my mindset, andI have less regard for getting 928 00:48:43,877 --> 00:48:45,270 in trouble from now on. 929 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,576 And then letting my family down. 930 00:48:47,707 --> 00:48:51,189 And that's not what I want to do. 931 00:48:51,319 --> 00:48:52,059 We're good? 932 00:48:52,190 --> 00:48:54,192 Yep, you're good. 933 00:48:54,322 --> 00:48:56,368 They're there for me, and I need to-- 934 00:48:56,498 --> 00:49:01,590 I need to continue to proveto them that I'm doing right. 935 00:49:01,721 --> 00:49:02,461 Baby bird. 936 00:49:02,591 --> 00:49:03,636 Baby bird! 937 00:49:03,766 --> 00:49:04,506 Aww. 938 00:49:04,637 --> 00:49:05,333 Yup. 939 00:49:19,521 --> 00:49:22,176 You know, you had manya boyfriends before Blake 940 00:49:22,307 --> 00:49:24,918 that I did not like, did not care for. 941 00:49:25,049 --> 00:49:29,227 They were completely unrespectful. 942 00:49:29,357 --> 00:49:31,969 And Blake came in here day one, and I told you 943 00:49:32,099 --> 00:49:33,796 the first day that I liked him. 944 00:49:33,927 --> 00:49:35,363 And he's got a really good heart, 945 00:49:35,494 --> 00:49:38,279 and he made a bad mistake. 946 00:49:38,410 --> 00:49:39,889 And the last thing he needed was for people 947 00:49:40,020 --> 00:49:42,153 to walk away from him. 948 00:49:42,283 --> 00:49:44,807 He deserves a secondchance, just like everybody 949 00:49:44,938 --> 00:49:46,592 deserves a second chance. 950 00:49:46,722 --> 00:49:49,682 And we're very proud for sticking with Blake, 951 00:49:49,812 --> 00:49:53,207 because, you know, he's a goodkid that does not deserve this. 952 00:49:53,338 --> 00:49:54,861 JENNIFER: Yes, he was a good kid. 953 00:49:54,992 --> 00:49:56,254 And we are going to fight. 954 00:49:56,384 --> 00:49:57,516 We are going national. 955 00:49:57,646 --> 00:50:00,606 We are going to get all the research that we 956 00:50:00,736 --> 00:50:02,912 can on all the other cases. 957 00:50:03,043 --> 00:50:04,740 And I'll always be Blake's friend. 958 00:50:04,871 --> 00:50:08,570 And I'll always have aplace in my heart for Blake. 959 00:50:08,701 --> 00:50:15,142 But do I think that Iwant you to spend 45 years 960 00:50:15,273 --> 00:50:16,883 holding your life for Blake? 961 00:50:17,014 --> 00:50:17,753 RICK: No. 962 00:50:17,884 --> 00:50:18,972 No. 963 00:50:19,103 --> 00:50:19,929 That's not what I want. 964 00:50:22,845 --> 00:50:23,629 Take his phone calls. 965 00:50:23,759 --> 00:50:24,499 Be his friend. 966 00:50:24,630 --> 00:50:26,240 Hold his hand. 967 00:50:26,371 --> 00:50:30,331 Never stop being that boy's friend. 968 00:50:30,462 --> 00:50:32,029 But you're going to haveto move on with your life. 969 00:50:35,858 --> 00:50:38,426 You can't wait 40 years. 970 00:50:38,557 --> 00:50:39,297 You know that. 971 00:50:55,791 --> 00:50:58,751 Obviously, Katherine isvery passionate about Blake 972 00:50:58,881 --> 00:51:02,102 and loves Blake with her entire heart. 973 00:51:02,233 --> 00:51:06,367 So it was an extremely difficult conversation. 974 00:51:06,498 --> 00:51:08,369 But I felt that, as a mother, I need 975 00:51:08,500 --> 00:51:11,894 to make sure that she's OK, because she's 976 00:51:12,025 --> 00:51:14,767 obviously my number one. 977 00:51:14,897 --> 00:51:18,162 Also, I wrote a letter to Blake and asked 978 00:51:18,292 --> 00:51:22,601 him to let her go becauseit's not fair to her 979 00:51:22,731 --> 00:51:26,083 for him to expect her to stay with him. 980 00:51:26,213 --> 00:51:32,132 But he had no intentionsof letting her go either. 981 00:51:32,263 --> 00:51:33,351 MALE REPORTER 5: The Indiana Supreme Court 982 00:51:33,481 --> 00:51:35,353 is pushing back anappeals hearing for three 983 00:51:35,483 --> 00:51:37,746 of the so-called Elkhart Four. 984 00:51:37,877 --> 00:51:40,009 The court was scheduled tohear arguments this Wednesday 985 00:51:40,140 --> 00:51:43,622 in the appeal of Blake Layman,Levi Sparks, and Anthony Sharp. 986 00:51:43,752 --> 00:51:46,146 It will now take place in late February. 987 00:51:46,277 --> 00:51:47,930 Defense attorneys will have 20 minutes 988 00:51:48,061 --> 00:51:50,281 to explain why the court should toss out 989 00:51:50,411 --> 00:51:51,891 their felony murder convictions, or at least 990 00:51:52,021 --> 00:51:53,110 lessen their sentences. 991 00:52:11,911 --> 00:52:14,043 Hearing that appeal didn'tgo through was extremely hard. 992 00:52:16,916 --> 00:52:17,917 Times are hard right now. 993 00:52:18,047 --> 00:52:21,181 There's a lot of money going out. 994 00:52:21,312 --> 00:52:22,965 We actually had to get a loan. 995 00:52:23,096 --> 00:52:25,490 It's been a long process. 996 00:52:25,620 --> 00:52:28,057 And Blake still doesneed to be taken care of. 997 00:52:28,188 --> 00:52:29,276 I know some people say, well, he's fine. 998 00:52:29,407 --> 00:52:30,756 They don't need money. 999 00:52:30,886 --> 00:52:33,759 Well, they don't-- yeah, theyget their three meals a day. 1000 00:52:33,889 --> 00:52:35,195 Do they have enough hygiene to last? 1001 00:52:35,326 --> 00:52:36,065 No. 1002 00:52:36,196 --> 00:52:37,197 Do they get paper for free? 1003 00:52:37,328 --> 00:52:38,111 No. 1004 00:52:38,242 --> 00:52:41,114 You know, they need all that too. 1005 00:52:41,245 --> 00:52:43,421 So I still have to take care of Blake also. 1006 00:52:48,295 --> 00:52:50,341 Unfortunately, we can see him every two weeks, 1007 00:52:50,471 --> 00:52:53,605 but I've had to postpone every two weeks. 1008 00:52:53,735 --> 00:52:58,044 I can't afford to do everytwo weeks, unfortunately. 1009 00:52:58,175 --> 00:53:00,699 I have a used vehicle that's older. 1010 00:53:00,829 --> 00:53:04,398 And we did have the incidentof going to see Blake, 1011 00:53:04,529 --> 00:53:06,095 and the vehicle breaking down. 1012 00:53:06,226 --> 00:53:07,401 And we're, you know-- 1013 00:53:07,532 --> 00:53:08,837 I mean, to get stranded in Indianapolis. 1014 00:53:08,968 --> 00:53:13,494 There's a lot of risk, too,of driving 4 and 1/2 hours. 1015 00:53:13,625 --> 00:53:15,279 It's really hard, becauseI'd be there every two weeks. 1016 00:53:15,409 --> 00:53:19,761 And if we lived close, we'dbe there every two weeks. 1017 00:53:19,892 --> 00:53:22,416 And so that's kind ofupsetting sometimes, to know-- 1018 00:53:22,547 --> 00:53:23,548 I mean, there's been times where I didn't 1019 00:53:23,678 --> 00:53:24,636 even have money on my phone. 1020 00:53:24,766 --> 00:53:26,464 And when he calls, that's heartbreaking, 1021 00:53:26,594 --> 00:53:28,117 knowing I can't answer the phone because I 1022 00:53:28,248 --> 00:53:29,728 don't have money on the phone. 1023 00:53:29,858 --> 00:53:31,773 It's very heartbreaking. 1024 00:53:31,904 --> 00:53:33,427 And same with other boys. 1025 00:53:33,558 --> 00:53:35,951 It's like, you know, Anthony calls a lot. 1026 00:53:36,082 --> 00:53:38,780 And it's hard for me all thetime to answer his phone call. 1027 00:53:38,911 --> 00:53:40,695 Sometimes I just don't have themoney to answer it, you know? 1028 00:53:46,658 --> 00:53:47,963 How much was that bag of candy? 1029 00:53:48,094 --> 00:53:51,140 Um, $3, because it was-- 1030 00:53:51,271 --> 00:53:54,318 So doing this for anotheryear or so to see if we can 1031 00:53:54,448 --> 00:53:56,102 get in front of the Indiana Supreme Court 1032 00:53:56,233 --> 00:53:57,451 is not going to be easy. 1033 00:53:57,582 --> 00:53:58,322 Take care. 1034 00:53:58,452 --> 00:53:59,192 CLERK: You too. 1035 00:54:02,456 --> 00:54:06,286 [slow guitar music] 1036 00:55:18,010 --> 00:55:21,883 [cheering] 1037 00:55:40,554 --> 00:55:43,557 My parents struggle a lot with the fact 1038 00:55:43,688 --> 00:55:47,779 that I was going to stickwith Blake no matter what. 1039 00:55:47,909 --> 00:55:49,128 I mean, they want me happy. 1040 00:55:58,529 --> 00:56:00,879 But Blake's not my friend. 1041 00:56:01,009 --> 00:56:01,706 I want him to be my husband. 1042 00:56:05,318 --> 00:56:07,886 And I would never give that up. 1043 00:56:11,585 --> 00:56:15,807 JENNIFER: Letting her stickby him was really hard. 1044 00:56:15,937 --> 00:56:18,984 But the two of them are going toget married, whether we want it 1045 00:56:19,114 --> 00:56:20,899 or not. 1046 00:56:21,029 --> 00:56:25,599 So you just decide that you'regoing to do what you want, 1047 00:56:25,730 --> 00:56:28,167 and we're going to be righthere beside you, whether we 1048 00:56:28,297 --> 00:56:30,865 agree with it or not. 1049 00:56:30,996 --> 00:56:36,001 And I do feel, someday, he'll be my son-in-law. 1050 00:56:36,131 --> 00:56:36,523 And I'm OK with that. 1051 00:56:50,407 --> 00:56:52,060 Blake won me this at the Indiana Beach. 1052 00:56:55,803 --> 00:56:59,546 JENNIFER: This found some stuff up there. 1053 00:56:59,677 --> 00:57:01,156 Alcohol stashed up there. 1054 00:57:01,287 --> 00:57:02,680 Busted! 1055 00:57:02,810 --> 00:57:04,333 I guess that's what happens when you move. 1056 00:57:04,464 --> 00:57:05,857 You find things that you forgot where there. 1057 00:57:23,048 --> 00:57:26,312 Moving out of my parents'house is a big step. 1058 00:57:26,443 --> 00:57:29,837 Blake, I suppose, would be doing this too. 1059 00:57:29,968 --> 00:57:31,709 A step I wish I didn't have to be taking alone. 1060 00:57:31,839 --> 00:57:35,103 But maybe he'll be there whenI graduate college, and-- 1061 00:57:35,234 --> 00:57:36,670 you know. 1062 00:57:36,801 --> 00:57:37,758 So there's always somethingelse to look forward 1063 00:57:37,889 --> 00:57:40,282 to that he can be there for. 1064 00:57:40,413 --> 00:57:43,024 That's my motivation, basically. 1065 00:57:43,155 --> 00:57:45,766 Get through this just to gethim home and start my life. 1066 00:58:04,350 --> 00:58:05,786 The greatest equation. 1067 00:58:05,917 --> 00:58:09,268 All of love in the worldplus compassion and trust 1068 00:58:09,398 --> 00:58:14,926 times infinity divided by youand me minus where I'm at now 1069 00:58:15,056 --> 00:58:18,756 equals Blake and KatherineLayman forever and always. 1070 00:58:18,886 --> 00:58:20,322 That's cute. 1071 00:58:20,453 --> 00:58:22,586 I got that back when he was in County. 1072 00:58:22,716 --> 00:58:23,587 Got a lot of stuff. 1073 00:58:29,854 --> 00:58:31,333 MALE REPORTER 6: Tonight,major new developments. 1074 00:58:31,464 --> 00:58:32,987 MALE REPORTER 7: The IndianaSupreme Court will hear 1075 00:58:33,118 --> 00:58:34,859 arguments this Wednesday in the appeal of three 1076 00:58:34,989 --> 00:58:37,035 of the so-called Elkhart Four-- 1077 00:58:37,165 --> 00:58:39,341 Blake Layman, LeviSparks, and Anthony Sharp. 1078 00:58:47,175 --> 00:58:49,134 JENNIFER: Hi. 1079 00:58:49,264 --> 00:58:50,570 Scared? Nervous? 1080 00:58:50,701 --> 00:58:51,440 KATHERINE: Yeah. 1081 00:58:51,571 --> 00:58:53,312 See what happens. 1082 00:58:53,442 --> 00:58:55,183 So, in the morning-- 1083 00:58:55,314 --> 00:58:58,012 I mean, I figure we shouldbe up by at least 5:00 1084 00:58:58,143 --> 00:59:01,233 and on the road no later than 6:30. 1085 00:59:01,363 --> 00:59:03,801 KATHERINE: Tomorrow, I'mgoing into the Supreme Court. 1086 00:59:03,931 --> 00:59:05,716 Not really sure what to feel. 1087 00:59:05,846 --> 00:59:09,720 I mean, the worst scenario could be 1088 00:59:09,850 --> 00:59:11,896 them sticking with a felony murder law 1089 00:59:12,026 --> 00:59:14,289 and him doing 45 years. 1090 00:59:14,420 --> 00:59:16,901 Or he could be coming home. 1091 00:59:17,031 --> 00:59:19,425 They could just dismiss the case, and-- 1092 00:59:19,556 --> 00:59:22,471 so I don't know what to feel. 1093 00:59:22,602 --> 00:59:24,082 I'm trying not to get too excited. 1094 00:59:24,212 --> 00:59:27,651 [guitar music] 1095 00:59:43,275 --> 00:59:44,929 ANGIE: We are going in front of the judge. 1096 00:59:45,059 --> 00:59:47,584 And our lawyers are goingto argue our point of why 1097 00:59:47,714 --> 00:59:49,281 felony murder should not have been 1098 00:59:49,411 --> 00:59:50,064 applied to the Elkhart Four. 1099 00:59:53,111 --> 00:59:56,897 The felony murder rule is very controversial. 1100 00:59:57,028 --> 00:59:59,030 From state to state, it changes the wording. 1101 00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:01,815 It's not very clear on who should be charged, 1102 01:00:01,946 --> 01:00:02,903 who shouldn't be. 1103 01:00:03,034 --> 01:00:04,818 Should we chargejuveniles, should we not. 1104 01:00:04,949 --> 01:00:07,647 And in the Elkhart case, Ithink a big part would be 1105 01:00:07,778 --> 01:00:09,388 there was no intent for harm. 1106 01:00:09,518 --> 01:00:10,519 There was no weapons involved. 1107 01:00:16,134 --> 01:00:17,309 KATHERINE: I don't know whether to be 1108 01:00:17,439 --> 01:00:23,750 excited or scared or nervous or throw up. 1109 01:00:23,881 --> 01:00:24,969 It can go anywhere. 1110 01:00:30,670 --> 01:00:34,195 They might not drop everythingand be like, OK, you can go. 1111 01:00:34,326 --> 01:00:37,285 But I have faith that my years will get dropped 1112 01:00:37,416 --> 01:00:38,635 to something a lot less. 1113 01:00:43,161 --> 01:00:45,729 Can you explain to me, like,exactly what this court can do? 1114 01:00:45,859 --> 01:00:47,774 They're going to grant or deny transfer. 1115 01:00:47,905 --> 01:00:52,213 And then if they take it andsay, this is not felony murder, 1116 01:00:52,344 --> 01:00:55,303 then it goes back to juvenilecourt, in Blake's case. 1117 01:00:55,434 --> 01:00:57,958 We're hoping that the Supreme Court will 1118 01:00:58,089 --> 01:00:59,656 drop to felony murder ruling against them 1119 01:00:59,786 --> 01:01:02,615 and charge them with the crimethat they actually did commit. 1120 01:01:15,759 --> 01:01:16,760 LORETTA RUSH: I'm looking forward 1121 01:01:16,890 --> 01:01:18,805 to hearing the argument. 1122 01:01:18,936 --> 01:01:21,547 The appellants are Blake Layman, Levi 1123 01:01:21,678 --> 01:01:23,984 Sparks, and Anthony Sharp Jr. 1124 01:01:24,115 --> 01:01:25,682 Indiana's felony murder statute 1125 01:01:25,812 --> 01:01:28,032 uses the action verb "kills," and it 1126 01:01:28,162 --> 01:01:30,077 refers back to the felon. 1127 01:01:30,208 --> 01:01:32,863 So it's the felon who must do the killing. 1128 01:01:32,993 --> 01:01:34,778 Not the victim of the original crime. 1129 01:01:34,908 --> 01:01:36,214 Not the victim, Your Honor, yes. 1130 01:01:36,344 --> 01:01:38,433 And then we have the questionof whether this is even felony 1131 01:01:38,564 --> 01:01:41,262 murder as a matter of law. 1132 01:01:41,393 --> 01:01:44,701 You can kill by causing death. 1133 01:01:44,831 --> 01:01:46,267 You don't have to pull the trigger. 1134 01:01:46,398 --> 01:01:47,921 You have to cause death. 1135 01:01:48,052 --> 01:01:50,054 And if you cause death byplunging a knife in someone's 1136 01:01:50,184 --> 01:01:51,751 breast, yes, you've murdered. 1137 01:01:51,882 --> 01:01:54,536 If you cause death by notwarning someone the bridge is 1138 01:01:54,667 --> 01:01:56,756 out, you've killed. 1139 01:01:56,887 --> 01:01:59,498 They did try to target a housethat they thought was empty. 1140 01:01:59,628 --> 01:02:01,369 They went in unarmed. 1141 01:02:01,500 --> 01:02:03,720 They were trying to limit the harm. 1142 01:02:03,850 --> 01:02:05,330 PROSECUTOR: They weren't trying to avoid it. 1143 01:02:05,460 --> 01:02:08,202 If they were trying to avoidit, they would've stayed home. 1144 01:02:08,333 --> 01:02:11,597 16-year-olds are old enough,at least, to know this much-- 1145 01:02:11,728 --> 01:02:14,382 that if you burglarize someone'shome in a way that makes 1146 01:02:14,513 --> 01:02:17,472 them fear for their life, thenyou are guilty of felony murder 1147 01:02:17,603 --> 01:02:18,038 if a death results. 1148 01:02:23,478 --> 01:02:24,784 FEMALE REPORTER 8: The Indiana Supreme 1149 01:02:24,915 --> 01:02:28,832 Court did not decide if itwill hear Blake Layman's case. 1150 01:02:28,962 --> 01:02:30,398 Just simply heard arguments. 1151 01:02:30,529 --> 01:02:32,923 No timetable for adecision has been released. 1152 01:02:33,053 --> 01:02:34,707 We'll continue to watch for developments. 1153 01:02:55,728 --> 01:02:58,165 [television chatter] 1154 01:03:00,646 --> 01:03:02,604 I don't like being alone. 1155 01:03:02,735 --> 01:03:04,084 It's boring. 1156 01:03:04,215 --> 01:03:04,955 Sad. 1157 01:03:10,264 --> 01:03:13,050 I work a full-time job, [inaudible] doors. 1158 01:03:13,180 --> 01:03:14,486 And they'll come off the machine, 1159 01:03:14,616 --> 01:03:17,010 and I catch them and place them on the skid, 1160 01:03:17,141 --> 01:03:17,968 and take the skids over to shipping. 1161 01:03:21,754 --> 01:03:25,410 But even though I'm working a full-time job, 1162 01:03:25,540 --> 01:03:27,064 I can't really go out and do things 1163 01:03:27,194 --> 01:03:31,285 like I used to be able tobecause I don't have the money. 1164 01:03:31,416 --> 01:03:33,418 I pay rent. 1165 01:03:33,548 --> 01:03:35,028 Truck payment. 1166 01:03:35,159 --> 01:03:39,163 And then, on top of that, Ihave Blake, which is about $500 1167 01:03:39,293 --> 01:03:40,599 a month. 1168 01:03:40,729 --> 01:03:47,171 I mean I spend commissary,gas to get there, phone calls. 1169 01:03:47,301 --> 01:03:50,957 It costs $3 a phone call, andhe calls me three times a day. 1170 01:03:51,088 --> 01:03:52,959 So it's a lot of money. 1171 01:03:53,090 --> 01:03:54,613 And then I get on Facebook and I'll 1172 01:03:54,743 --> 01:03:58,443 see my friends start familiesand go off to college, 1173 01:03:58,573 --> 01:04:03,709 move to California, and me being kind of stuck. 1174 01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:05,624 This is definitely notthe life that I expected I 1175 01:04:05,754 --> 01:04:07,887 would have when I was littler. 1176 01:04:08,018 --> 01:04:11,848 [slow guitar music] 1177 01:04:57,589 --> 01:05:00,418 Thank you. 1178 01:05:00,548 --> 01:05:01,288 Thank you. 1179 01:05:01,419 --> 01:05:03,595 Thank you. 1180 01:05:03,725 --> 01:05:06,728 [sigh] Go ahead. 1181 01:05:06,859 --> 01:05:07,686 Oh my god. 1182 01:05:11,951 --> 01:05:14,519 Oh my goodness. 1183 01:05:14,649 --> 01:05:16,042 They're going to be so happy. 1184 01:05:16,173 --> 01:05:21,352 Them boys are going to be so hysterical. 1185 01:05:21,482 --> 01:05:22,744 [inaudible] known that graduation day, though. 1186 01:05:22,875 --> 01:05:23,615 Right? 1187 01:05:23,745 --> 01:05:24,485 I know. 1188 01:05:24,616 --> 01:05:26,270 The same day. 1189 01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:27,445 Same day. 1190 01:05:27,575 --> 01:05:29,229 How-- yeah. 1191 01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:30,056 So exciting. 1192 01:05:33,233 --> 01:05:34,539 Don't think he's here yet. 1193 01:05:34,669 --> 01:05:35,888 I don't see Levi or him. 1194 01:05:38,847 --> 01:05:40,110 The Supreme Court overruled. 1195 01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:41,285 The Supreme Court has overruled our case. 1196 01:05:41,415 --> 01:05:42,590 And he doesn't know he doesn't know yet. 1197 01:05:42,721 --> 01:05:43,156 ANGIE: He doesn't know. 1198 01:05:43,287 --> 01:05:45,245 Shh. 1199 01:05:45,376 --> 01:05:49,380 Oh my god, I'm gonna pass out. 1200 01:05:49,510 --> 01:05:50,424 So excited. 1201 01:05:50,555 --> 01:05:50,990 So excited. 1202 01:05:54,341 --> 01:05:58,302 I almost feel sick to my stomach, even. 1203 01:05:58,432 --> 01:05:59,651 This is not real. 1204 01:06:02,871 --> 01:06:03,872 Do you know what this means? 1205 01:06:04,003 --> 01:06:05,352 Oh my gosh. 1206 01:06:05,483 --> 01:06:06,788 KATHERINE: We get to have a real wedding. 1207 01:06:06,919 --> 01:06:08,138 ANGIE: Oh my god. 1208 01:06:08,268 --> 01:06:09,008 KATHERINE: We get have a real wedding. 1209 01:06:13,795 --> 01:06:14,448 Oh my god, I see him. [gasp] 1210 01:06:14,579 --> 01:06:15,319 Shh! 1211 01:06:20,019 --> 01:06:21,238 Hi, guys. 1212 01:06:21,368 --> 01:06:22,108 Hug. 1213 01:06:25,155 --> 01:06:26,895 Oh my god, I love you. 1214 01:06:27,026 --> 01:06:29,159 So we gotta talk to you guys. 1215 01:06:29,289 --> 01:06:30,638 The Supreme Court decision came back. 1216 01:06:30,769 --> 01:06:31,944 All right. 1217 01:06:32,075 --> 01:06:34,512 You guys are no longerconvicted felony murderers. 1218 01:06:34,642 --> 01:06:35,469 We won! 1219 01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:36,731 You're not a murderer. 1220 01:06:40,039 --> 01:06:41,127 ANGIE: I've been waiting for this so long. 1221 01:06:41,258 --> 01:06:41,998 I don't wanna cry. 1222 01:06:42,128 --> 01:06:43,260 Cry, babe. 1223 01:06:43,390 --> 01:06:44,609 Cry. 1224 01:06:44,739 --> 01:06:46,002 Cry, man. 1225 01:06:46,132 --> 01:06:47,916 You're not a murderer, man. 1226 01:06:48,047 --> 01:06:48,830 [sobs] 1227 01:06:48,961 --> 01:06:51,007 Man. 1228 01:06:51,137 --> 01:06:52,399 Congratulations. 1229 01:06:52,530 --> 01:06:53,618 Thank you, man. 1230 01:06:53,748 --> 01:06:54,184 Thank you. 1231 01:06:59,145 --> 01:07:00,364 [inaudible] get that shit back. 1232 01:07:00,494 --> 01:07:01,365 Man. 1233 01:07:01,495 --> 01:07:02,366 Congratulations. 1234 01:07:02,496 --> 01:07:03,802 Thank you, thank you. 1235 01:07:03,932 --> 01:07:05,195 [music playing] 1236 01:07:05,325 --> 01:07:07,327 [SINGING] Just make it through the rain. 1237 01:07:07,458 --> 01:07:15,466 Even though we don't ever show our pain, 1238 01:07:15,596 --> 01:07:22,908 we try, we try, to make it through the rain. 1239 01:07:23,039 --> 01:07:33,658 Even though we don't ever showour pain, we try, we try-- 1240 01:07:33,788 --> 01:07:34,920 WOMAN: Blake Layman. 1241 01:07:35,051 --> 01:07:38,054 [applause] 1242 01:07:43,102 --> 01:07:46,105 I love you, Son. 1243 01:07:46,236 --> 01:07:47,063 [shutter clicks] 1244 01:07:49,152 --> 01:07:50,675 Congratulations, honey. 1245 01:07:50,805 --> 01:07:51,328 I love you. 1246 01:07:58,509 --> 01:07:59,510 It's a damn good day. 1247 01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:03,209 [music playing] 1248 01:08:03,340 --> 01:08:06,082 [SINGING] My mother always said, 1249 01:08:06,212 --> 01:08:09,433 Son, just make it through the rain. 1250 01:08:09,563 --> 01:08:14,133 Even though we don't ever show-- 1251 01:08:14,264 --> 01:08:15,743 FEMALE REPORTER 9: The Indiana Supreme Court 1252 01:08:15,874 --> 01:08:18,659 says Blake Layman, Levi Sparks,and Anthony Sharp did not 1253 01:08:18,790 --> 01:08:22,141 engage in any dangerous,violent, threatening behavior, 1254 01:08:22,272 --> 01:08:23,925 and nothing about their behavior was the cause 1255 01:08:24,056 --> 01:08:26,102 of their friend's death. 1256 01:08:26,232 --> 01:08:27,712 FEMALE REPORTER 10: A judge will resentence, 1257 01:08:27,842 --> 01:08:31,107 Layman, Sharp, and Sparksfor the burglary conviction. 1258 01:08:31,237 --> 01:08:33,239 The maximum for that is 20 years. 1259 01:08:33,370 --> 01:08:34,936 But with day-for-day credit and time 1260 01:08:35,067 --> 01:08:36,938 they've already served in the last three years, 1261 01:08:37,069 --> 01:08:39,115 they might only have to do another six years. 1262 01:08:39,245 --> 01:08:41,769 The one name left out ofthe Supreme Court opinion 1263 01:08:41,900 --> 01:08:43,510 is Jose Quiroz. 1264 01:08:43,641 --> 01:08:45,860 He pleaded guilty before thetrial and, because of that, 1265 01:08:45,991 --> 01:08:47,601 was not able to appeal. 1266 01:08:47,732 --> 01:08:50,604 He's currently serving a 45-year sentence. 1267 01:08:50,735 --> 01:08:53,477 But I am told a public defenderis trying to get him less 1268 01:08:53,607 --> 01:08:56,262 time since he was 16 when it happened. 1269 01:09:01,137 --> 01:09:02,790 KATHERINE: I'm so scared, I ain't playing. 1270 01:09:02,921 --> 01:09:04,618 You're scared, or just anxious and-- 1271 01:09:04,749 --> 01:09:05,619 I'm scared. 1272 01:09:05,750 --> 01:09:06,751 --nervous about what's going to happen? 1273 01:09:06,881 --> 01:09:07,317 Yeah, I'm scared. 1274 01:09:10,711 --> 01:09:11,234 Like, really bad. 1275 01:09:15,194 --> 01:09:16,326 Just don't go and ask him stupid questions. 1276 01:09:16,456 --> 01:09:18,066 Do you imagine how he's feeling and how we feel? 1277 01:09:18,197 --> 01:09:22,158 I bet he is, like, a mess. 1278 01:09:22,288 --> 01:09:23,724 At least he got himself in that situation. 1279 01:09:23,855 --> 01:09:25,117 That's true. 1280 01:09:25,248 --> 01:09:27,032 I gotta go up there, and I'm like, aah! 1281 01:09:27,163 --> 01:09:28,033 Please don't kill me. 1282 01:09:28,164 --> 01:09:29,165 Oh, you're more scared about all that. 1283 01:09:29,295 --> 01:09:30,296 The whole court-- 1284 01:09:30,427 --> 01:09:32,298 Yeah, like, what if I-- what if I'm the one 1285 01:09:32,429 --> 01:09:33,778 that gives him 20 years in prison 1286 01:09:33,908 --> 01:09:35,519 because of something I say? 1287 01:09:35,649 --> 01:09:37,042 There's not much you cansay that's going to influence 1288 01:09:37,173 --> 01:09:37,912 the judge's decision. 1289 01:09:38,043 --> 01:09:40,176 You know that. 1290 01:09:40,306 --> 01:09:42,569 Yeah? 1291 01:09:42,700 --> 01:09:45,137 While I'm up there as a character witness, 1292 01:09:45,268 --> 01:09:49,533 the prosecutor's job is to lower my character. 1293 01:09:49,663 --> 01:09:51,839 Make it look like I am a bad person. 1294 01:09:51,970 --> 01:09:53,014 But how can they? 1295 01:09:53,145 --> 01:09:55,103 You work every day. 1296 01:09:55,234 --> 01:09:58,890 I mean, you have been therefor Blake for three years. 1297 01:09:59,020 --> 01:10:00,848 You've done everything. 1298 01:10:00,979 --> 01:10:01,893 [sigh] 1299 01:10:02,023 --> 01:10:02,763 You'll be fine. 1300 01:10:12,947 --> 01:10:15,123 [music playing] 1301 01:10:25,656 --> 01:10:27,484 It's gonna be good. 1302 01:10:27,614 --> 01:10:29,007 It's what we've been waiting on. 1303 01:10:29,137 --> 01:10:30,356 She's shaking regardless. 1304 01:10:30,487 --> 01:10:32,358 Yeah, I haven't ate, slept, nothing. 1305 01:10:37,058 --> 01:10:37,798 All right, everyone. 1306 01:10:37,929 --> 01:10:38,973 We're about to pray. 1307 01:10:39,104 --> 01:10:40,758 So everybody gather. 1308 01:10:40,888 --> 01:10:43,674 Father God, we come hereagain today for one purpose, 1309 01:10:43,804 --> 01:10:45,980 and that's for justice for these boys. 1310 01:10:46,111 --> 01:10:48,069 Let them be charged for what they did. 1311 01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:49,157 Lord, be with us all today. 1312 01:10:49,288 --> 01:10:50,463 Give us strength. 1313 01:10:50,594 --> 01:10:52,683 Give these boys guidance when they come home. 1314 01:10:52,813 --> 01:10:53,553 Amen. 1315 01:10:53,684 --> 01:10:54,424 Amen. 1316 01:10:57,253 --> 01:10:58,776 I hope he comes home. 1317 01:10:58,906 --> 01:11:00,212 Time served. 1318 01:11:00,343 --> 01:11:03,737 But even if he has to do acouple more years, we've won. 1319 01:11:03,868 --> 01:11:05,086 This is what we needed. 1320 01:11:05,217 --> 01:11:08,176 We've got him to the burglarycharge that he deserves. 1321 01:11:08,307 --> 01:11:09,961 So even if the worse comes to worse, 1322 01:11:10,091 --> 01:11:10,962 it's just a couple more years. 1323 01:11:11,092 --> 01:11:12,398 And we're ready for that. 1324 01:11:12,529 --> 01:11:16,359 [upbeat music] 1325 01:11:59,967 --> 01:12:01,578 What were you feeling going into this? 1326 01:12:01,708 --> 01:12:02,492 Nervous. 1327 01:12:02,622 --> 01:12:04,145 Um, I didn't know what to expect. 1328 01:12:04,276 --> 01:12:05,930 I was expecting the worst. 1329 01:12:06,060 --> 01:12:08,672 I was hoping there was no waythe judge would max him out. 1330 01:12:08,802 --> 01:12:10,456 But we got justice today,and that's what we wanted, 1331 01:12:10,587 --> 01:12:11,457 and that's the way we've been. 1332 01:12:11,588 --> 01:12:13,154 10-year sentence? 1333 01:12:13,285 --> 01:12:15,156 Can't ask for nothing better. 1334 01:12:15,287 --> 01:12:16,854 He's got a year and a half time cut after he 1335 01:12:16,984 --> 01:12:18,769 finishes the PLUS program. 1336 01:12:18,899 --> 01:12:22,120 So we're looking at it maybethree months, he'll be free. 1337 01:12:22,250 --> 01:12:22,729 Yeah. - Three months? 1338 01:12:22,860 --> 01:12:23,904 Yes. 1339 01:12:24,035 --> 01:12:24,905 [laughs] Yes. 1340 01:12:25,036 --> 01:12:25,776 Thank you. 1341 01:12:25,906 --> 01:12:29,083 Oh, Son! 1342 01:12:29,214 --> 01:12:31,738 Did you schedule a visit for today? 1343 01:12:31,869 --> 01:12:35,394 [mellow music] 1344 01:12:54,500 --> 01:12:55,240 Oh my goodness. 1345 01:12:55,371 --> 01:12:57,503 I'm just-- I'm, like, sweating. 1346 01:12:57,634 --> 01:12:59,418 I'm just so anxious. 1347 01:13:02,682 --> 01:13:04,641 Been waiting on this day for a long time. 1348 01:13:08,601 --> 01:13:10,081 All right. 1349 01:13:10,211 --> 01:13:12,475 I think we're good. 1350 01:13:12,605 --> 01:13:14,085 Trying to make sure everything's ready. 1351 01:13:26,967 --> 01:13:27,707 OK. 1352 01:13:31,407 --> 01:13:34,018 I know, boy. 1353 01:13:34,148 --> 01:13:35,280 You anxious, too? 1354 01:13:35,411 --> 01:13:38,457 Are you gonna see Blakey? 1355 01:13:38,588 --> 01:13:40,154 Baby bird. 1356 01:13:40,285 --> 01:13:42,940 He's flying free now. 1357 01:13:43,070 --> 01:13:44,115 It's finally ending. 1358 01:13:44,245 --> 01:13:45,203 It's almost over. 1359 01:13:48,946 --> 01:13:53,124 [guitar music] 1360 01:14:21,718 --> 01:14:22,719 BLAKE: I'm out of here, JP. 1361 01:14:22,849 --> 01:14:23,589 Stay out of trouble, man. 1362 01:14:39,344 --> 01:14:39,779 All right, hillbilly. 1363 01:14:39,910 --> 01:14:41,433 Be good. 1364 01:14:41,564 --> 01:14:42,739 What'd you say, [inaudible]?What'd you say? 1365 01:14:42,869 --> 01:14:43,609 You need a hug? 1366 01:14:43,740 --> 01:14:46,351 [laughter] 1367 01:14:47,787 --> 01:14:48,571 All right, [inaudible] All right, guys. 1368 01:14:48,701 --> 01:14:50,442 Be cool, y'all. 1369 01:14:50,573 --> 01:14:51,138 You'll hear from me soon. 1370 01:15:07,154 --> 01:15:08,373 All right, Blake. 1371 01:15:08,504 --> 01:15:09,505 All right, [inaudible] 1372 01:15:09,635 --> 01:15:10,201 - Thank you, brother. - Yup. 1373 01:15:10,331 --> 01:15:11,071 Be cool. 1374 01:15:12,899 --> 01:15:13,639 Yeah, I know. 1375 01:15:13,770 --> 01:15:14,510 I ain't coming back. 1376 01:15:28,698 --> 01:15:32,049 It's been 3 and 1/2 years, you know? 1377 01:15:32,179 --> 01:15:34,181 I just don't know what to expect. 1378 01:15:34,312 --> 01:15:37,620 Kind of nervous, you know? 1379 01:15:37,750 --> 01:15:38,795 When I walk out those gates today, 1380 01:15:38,925 --> 01:15:41,145 the entire Elkhart Four-- 1381 01:15:41,275 --> 01:15:42,276 I want to put that behind me. 1382 01:15:42,407 --> 01:15:43,800 I want to be Blake. 1383 01:15:43,930 --> 01:15:45,323 I don't wanna be the Elkhart Four kid. 1384 01:15:49,022 --> 01:15:50,328 ANGIE: Blake! 1385 01:15:50,458 --> 01:15:51,198 Blake! 1386 01:16:08,259 --> 01:16:10,304 It's an overwhelming sense of love, 1387 01:16:10,435 --> 01:16:12,959 you know, just to see everyonetie together like that, 1388 01:16:13,090 --> 01:16:14,787 and just come together for that cause. 1389 01:16:14,918 --> 01:16:15,658 For me. 1390 01:16:21,402 --> 01:16:23,622 I think the only real way to saythank you for all that support 1391 01:16:23,753 --> 01:16:26,277 and love is to do right now. 1392 01:16:26,407 --> 01:16:31,717 Is to get out and do the rightthing and not disappoint. 1393 01:16:31,848 --> 01:16:33,850 I can stand up and say thank you, 1394 01:16:33,980 --> 01:16:36,417 but actions speak louder than words. 1395 01:16:36,548 --> 01:16:39,072 And for them to see me do good,that would be the ultimate 1396 01:16:39,203 --> 01:16:39,943 thank you to all of them. 1397 01:16:48,299 --> 01:16:49,169 Here you go. 1398 01:16:49,300 --> 01:16:52,172 Thank you. 1399 01:16:52,303 --> 01:16:56,481 [cheering] 1400 01:17:14,455 --> 01:17:17,633 [cheering continues] 1401 01:17:21,593 --> 01:17:23,116 - Name? - Layman. 1402 01:17:23,247 --> 01:17:23,987 DOC? 1403 01:17:24,117 --> 01:17:25,118 242576. 1404 01:17:25,249 --> 01:17:26,076 Awesome. Thank you, sir. 1405 01:17:26,206 --> 01:17:27,164 - Thank you. - Good luck to you. 1406 01:17:27,294 --> 01:17:28,034 Thank you. 1407 01:17:28,165 --> 01:17:28,992 You're going places. 1408 01:17:29,122 --> 01:17:29,862 Thank you, man. 1409 01:17:34,475 --> 01:17:35,694 ANGIE: Justice for Blake! 1410 01:17:35,825 --> 01:17:37,914 [cheering] 1411 01:17:46,052 --> 01:17:48,533 Look at that good-looking boy, wow! 1412 01:17:55,453 --> 01:17:57,934 MAN: Hey, open them gates for that guy. 1413 01:17:58,064 --> 01:17:59,283 ANGIE: You're free, Blake! 1414 01:17:59,413 --> 01:18:00,545 Yes! 1415 01:18:00,676 --> 01:18:03,069 You're free! 1416 01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:05,202 Yeah! 1417 01:18:05,332 --> 01:18:07,030 [cheering] 1418 01:18:09,206 --> 01:18:11,295 [mellow music] 1419 01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:13,776 Oh my god, you're out! 1420 01:18:26,789 --> 01:18:27,920 Good to see you, baby. 1421 01:18:32,098 --> 01:18:32,751 ANGIE: Your grandma wants a hug. 1422 01:18:42,195 --> 01:18:42,935 [inaudible]. 1423 01:18:43,066 --> 01:18:43,806 He looks so good. 1424 01:18:43,936 --> 01:18:45,068 You look so good. 1425 01:18:45,198 --> 01:18:46,765 [sobs] 1426 01:18:48,636 --> 01:18:49,768 WOMAN: I want in. 1427 01:18:49,899 --> 01:18:51,030 I want in! 1428 01:18:51,161 --> 01:18:51,901 I want some! 1429 01:18:57,558 --> 01:19:00,997 [mellow music] 97297

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