Original subtitles

-"Hello, Mrs. Geneva Camarena?" -"Yes."

"It's the White House. President Reagan is calling."

"Yes, ma'am."

"All right, one moment please."

"Hello, Mrs. Camarena?"

"Yes, sir."

"I just wanted you to know that Nancy and I...

"You're in our prayers. You have our deepest sympathy.

"Your husband died for his country

-in every sense of the word." -"Yes, sir."

"And we'll remember your husband

for his love and dedication to this country."

"Thank you, sir."

"And I just want you to know, also...

"I'm determined

"that we're going to pursue this drug thing

"and the kind of monsters

that perpetrate this kind of crime."

INTERVIEWER: How hard was it leaving Mexico without him?

(whimpers)

(whimpers)

He was my whole world.

TOM BROKAW: It was a brutal day in the drug wars of Mexico,

and an American drug agent is one of the victims.

The body of Enrique Camarena was found today,

beaten, bound,

wrapped in plastic, and dropped in a field.

He had been missing for a month.

MALE REPORTER: The bodies were found

along a well-traveled highway

about 70 miles from Guadalajara.

The bodies were taken to a hospital morgue

in nearby Zamora.

The commander of the Mexican police task force investigating

the disappearance of Camarena arrived.

The U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration's top man

in Mexico was also there.

He looked shaken as he left.

(horn honks)

(siren chirps)

HOLM: It hit me hard because the agents told me...

what they did to Kiki.

And I went home,

and my wife had never seen me cry.

And she saw that I was upset.

I got a beer and sat by the pool.

She said, "What happened?"

I says, "They tortured him."

You know, I didn't tell her what they did.

And my little girl said, "Mommy, Mommy, I'm scared."

(nervous laugh)

"Daddy's crying."

So anyhow, I had an emotional reaction,

which makes you want to retaliate.

♪♪

MALE NARRATOR: In 1985, the kidnapping, torture, and murder

of DEA agent Kiki Camarena transformed Mexico

into the newest frontline in the war on drugs.

Under intense pressure from the Reagan Administration,

the government of Mexico arrested two drug lords for the murder

but refused to extradite them to the U.S.

Instead, Rafael Caro Quintero

and Ernesto Fonseca Carrillo

divvied up the cartel from lavish prison cells

stocked with liquor, drugs,

women, and exotic animals.

In response, the DEA reassigned

its most aggressive narcs to Mexico.

They came with huge snitch budgets

and orders from the White House

to bring the full fury of America's drug war

to the doorstep of the Guadalajara Cartel.

♪♪

BERRELLEZ: Two years after Kiki's murder,

I was promoted and assigned resident agent in charge

of the Mazatlán, Sinaloa, Mexico office,

and his assassination was very present and clear.

So I knew that I needed to be very, very careful.

Mazatlán was super hot. As a matter of fact,

Mazatlán was the hottest area of all of Mexico,

because all the major drug lords,

they were all from the state of Sinaloa.

And they all had businesses in Mazatlán.

♪♪ [Rolling Stones' "Undercover of the Night"]

♪ Hear the screams from Center 42 ♪

♪ Loud enough to bust your brains out ♪

Most of the hotels there and major restaurants

are owned by the drug lords.

♪ Keep off the streets 'cause you're in danger ♪

It was a very, very dangerous office to work with.

There were shootings and killings all the time.

♪ Curl up, baby ♪

♪ Keep it all out of sight ♪

♪ Undercover ♪

♪ Keep it all out of sight ♪

♪ Undercover of the night ♪

We would watch the news reports from Mexico,

deaths all over the place, big shootouts.

And Hector was in the middle of all of that.

He could get killed at any moment.

Well, I suffered a lot.

But my son is very strong,

and he kept going.

♪ Undercover, undercover ♪

♪ Undercover of the night ♪

BROKAW: This case has stirred international repercussions and outrage.

And the U.S. government still is trying to bring his killers to justice.

MALE REPORTER: In the nearly two years since,

no one has been brought to trial for Camarena's murder.

This agency has not and I hope will not stop

until we have brought everyone involved to justice.

How long do you believe we are going to wait?

It has been a year and a half.

MALE REPORTER: Congressmen charge evidence has been destroyed or disappeared,

while Mexican police continue the cover-up.

Our commitment is firm to this,

and I'm certainly not gonna sit here and say

that there haven't been frustrations in our efforts.

-It's a fraud. -I don't think there's the smallest possibility

that the Mexican government will ever...

fully ventilate the Camarena case.

I agree with the DEA agent, who's knowledgeable,

who told me the government of Mexico would collapse.

I agree with him.

BERRELLEZ: I get a call from an agent out of Colombia,

and he tells me that they are investigating a shipload

with tons of marijuana and cocaine.

We've been also doing wiretaps on the Escobar-Medellín Cartel.

And the recipient of the drugs is being called at this number.

That number comes back to a Pablo Jacobo

at a little store in Navolato, Sinaloa.

So we proceeded to Navolato from Mazatlán,

and we go directly to the store.

I walk in with my AK-47 here and my gun like this,

and I see a guy standing behind the counter and I go...

"Federal Police, we are looking for Pablo Jacobo!"

And he turns around and says, "There's nobody here with that name."

But I see him going to a drawer,

so I run up and I put my gun on his head.

"Freeze, motherfucker! Or I'll kill you!"

"Where are the drugs?" And he says,

"They are at my ranch, in Limoncito. They're not here."

Is there anybody there? He says, "No, no, there's nobody there.

Just my ranchers."

WHITE: So we're driving up in four vehicles.

It was a total of 16 of us--

12 Mex Feds and 4 DEA.

I don't like it. I'm looking down my binoculars.

All of a sudden, I remember my mom's premonition.

Before I reported to Mexico,

she said, "Son, before you leave,

I'd like to do a tarot card reading on you."

It's a field with...

rows of corn.

All these fields are sown with corn.

Death, injuries, blood...

I see blood all over the place.

So I tell my men, "Okay, everybody mount up.

Everybody put their vests on. We're gonna go in."

WHITE: One of the Mex Feds yells "cuerno."

And that's the term they use for AK-47s.

And I'm thinking, "Shit, we are screwed."

BERRELLEZ: And I could see there was, like, a silo,

and, man, there was a guy just pouring.

Lit it up with a machine gun.

WHITE: The Mex Fed on my right side, he got hit...

and the AK-47 fire just about severed his arm.

CHATITA: I can see them running in the cornfields.

Some fall,

others run,

but I can see blood raining down.

BERRELLEZ: Some of the Mex Feds are all shot up.

"We're bleeding to death here, please help us!

Please, we are gonna die here!"

And I said, "Jim, we gotta get those wounded guys."

And I started grabbing guys and pulling them to the side.

And we threw them in the back of the Ram Charger.

WHITE: I laid down, and I, using my left hand

to run the gas pedal, and my right hand to steer with,

and it went in reverse.

Hector with his AK was laying down fire while I was driving.

BERRELLEZ: So we're driving down the main highway and then one of them says...

"Hey, boss, would you give me a cigarette, please?"

And I go, "Okay. I'll give you a cigarette."

All of a sudden, I hear laughter. I look back.

"Hey, what's going on?

Why are you laughing?"

And the guy goes, "Mira!"

And he pulls on the cigarette,

and you can see smoke coming out of his chest.

He had a sucking chest wound, and he's smoking.

And then, all of a sudden, I see a taxicab's coming our way

in the opposite direction.

So then we go, "Stop!"

Alto! I point my rifle at him.

I says, "Give me the keys to your cab."

And he goes, "Are you taking my cab?"

"Yes, you're lending it to me!"

Jim, he's gonna take you to the hospital.

I'm gonna go back to the shootout in a taxicab.

I pulled into the shootout scene, to the ranch again,

and the gunfire's still going on.

Everybody's shooting happy-go-lucky there.

And as soon as I pull in, everybody stops shooting.

It's silence.

The crooks are wondering, "Who's in the cab?"

My guys are wondering,

"Why's that cab here? Who's in the cab?"

So finally, I get out of the cab,

and I yell, "It's me, guys!"

Finally, the Mexican army shows up. and I run up to them.

I said, "Do you have an M-79?"

"Oh, a grenade launcher! Yes, I've got one!"

"Please, bring it to me!"

So then I shot a couple of grenades up there.

So all of sudden, they start putting white shirts and stuff,

wanting to surrender.

So then the prisoners start coming out.

And of course, the dope is there in a big semi-truck.

Of course, there's dead on their side.

We killed some of the traffickers.

They had been laying there dead for so long

that rigor mortis had set in.

I mean, they were stiff.

Finally, as we're picking up everything,

I remember the guy up in the silo.

So I walk underneath, and I shoot up.

Like 60 rounds. (imitates gunfire)

And this-- this guy falls from, like, from the sky. Bam!

And he's going, "Ay-yi-yi-yi-yi!"

And I go, "What's wrong with you?"

"I've been shot!"

"You shot me in my leg." (chuckles)

MALE REPORTER: This gun battle then raged on for over two hours,

with over 20,000 rounds expended by the narcotic traffickers.

It should be noted that this was the longest gun battle

in the history of the Drug Enforcement Administration.

As a comparison, in the Vietnam war,

American soldiers were under heavy gunfire

for an average of 15 to 20 minutes

before getting air or artillery support.

Special Agent Hector G. Berrellez's actions

upheld the finest traditions

of the Drug Enforcement Administration's,

and are hereby recognized

by awarding him the Federal Bar Association's

Medal of Valor.

(applause)

MALE REPORTER: As a result of this raid by Special Agent Berrellez,

several major drug overlords were arrested.

Because of those arrests, Special Agent Berrellez

and his family were targeted for execution.

BERRELLEZ: When the word got out I had been targeted for assassination,

by Miguel Félix Gallardo and the Guadalajara Cartel,

they pulled me out.

They said, "You gotta leave. They're gonna kill you.

"We're gonna escort you to the airport right now,

and you're out of here, we're gonna take you back to the States."

And all I had was what I was wearing and my gun.

And I got on a plane and headed for the United States.

BERRELLEZ: I'm in Arizona, and I'm praying for my life.

So I remained there for, like three months.

I didn't hear anything.

I was being paid, but I was getting bored,

just doing nothing, just staying in a nice hotel.

And one day, the agent says,

"Hey, you gotta come to the office.

The administrator wants to talk to you."

So I dial the number.

And a voice comes on the line,

he says, "I'm Jack Lawn. I'm the administrator.

How are you, Hector?"

And I said, "I'm fine, sir. How are you?"

He says, "I'm fine. You ready to come back to work?"

I says, "I'd love to."

He says, uh...

"How'd you like to run the Camarena murder investigation?

How'd you like to be the supervisor of Operation Leyenda?"

I said, "I'd love that.

That's an honor. I'll take that case."

MEDRANO: If you wanted a chance at success in this investigation,

you needed Chicano agents.

You needed Mexican-American agents.

You needed Spanish-speaking agents.

You needed agents who had been doing

undercover drug deals in the barrio,

who knew and understood the DNA of Mexican drug dealers.

And the agent who epitomized,

who I believed to be the ideal agent

to go after these bad guys for Camarena's murder,

was-- was Hector Berrellez.

He had been in firefights down in Mexico before.

Hector Berrellez knew and understood Mexico.

BERRELLEZ: At that juncture in the investigation,

the DEA had not recruited one person

that could tell them what happened to Kiki.

They don't have any informants or witnesses

that were there when Kiki was picked up,

that were there when Kiki was tortured.

They don't know what happened.

The director of DEA, Jack Lawn asked me, he says,

"You will be able to get me witnesses?"

I said, "Of course."

I said, "I'm gonna have to spend a lot of money,

'cause I'm gonna have to bring whole families out here."

He said, "Whole families?"

I says, "Yeah, you can't bring a guy over here

"and leaving his family back there.

"Soon as they found out he's working for us,

"they're gonna kill his whole family.

"So you're gonna have to be prepared to give me

"that kind of support and put some of these people

under Witness Protection Program."

He says, "Fine. You run it the way you have to run it.

"You have my support. And by the way,

how much money you think you're gonna need?"

I said, "I'm gonna need a big informant budget.

I'm talking about three million."

He said, "What? That much?"

And I said, "Yeah, I gotta develop informants in Los Pinos.

Those guys are gonna run, like, ten grand a month."

He says, "You can get informants in Los Pinos?"

That's the Mexican White House.

I said, "Of course."

I said, "We're talking big, big time here."

He says, "You got my support.

"Get me people that were there that can tell us

"what happened to Kiki.

"I wanna know from the time he got picked up

"till the time he died.

I wanna know what happened to that man."

I recruited informants that I knew

knew the people that were involved.

And one of them was this young man by the name of--

We called him Rafa.

He ran brothels down there.

And because he was providing women to the cartel members,

he knew who ran with him, who the bodyguards were,

who was close to these guys.

He says, "I know this guy Jorge Godoy."

Ah, fucking Rafa.

The phone rang.

The early cellphones we used,

that were like fucking bricks like this.

"Listen,

"this is Hector Berrellez,

"chief of the DEA Pacific Division.

"From Alaska to Tierra del Fuego,

all the way down to Argentina, dude."

"And what can I do for you, sir?"

BERRELLEZ: I says, "I need your help, man."

I says, "Why don't you come up here and help me investigate

the murder of Enrique?"

He goes, "No, you're gonna arrest me."

"You are going to fuck me...

I'm a stinking dog."

BERRELLEZ: And I said, "Listen..."

"Do you believe in God?"

"Yes, I believe in God."

"Then believe in me, bastard.

"I'm going to change your whole life.

You know everything, motherfucker."

"I swear to God

that if you cooperate, I will not arrest you."

I told him, "Just give me a chance

"to say goodbye to my children.

"And if you're going to fuck me, then do it.

I'll go."

BERRELLEZ: So they arrived in Tijuana and took a cab to the port of entry,

where I was waiting for them.

I saw a very frightened man,

a very frightened man.

I said, "Don't be nervous, calm down.

What can I do for you?"

He said, "I need a beer. Please bring me a beer."

So we got him a 12-pack of Budweiser,

and we started driving towards L.A.

And I started asking him about what he knew.

He said that he had been a pistolero, a bodyguard,

for Ernesto Fonseca Carrillo

the jefe de jefes, the boss of bosses

of the Guadalajara Cartel.

He told me that he had been a state policeman

assigned to protect Ernesto Fonseca Carrillo

and Rafael Caro Quintero

who were involved in Kiki's murder.

He told me that he had been in a lot of pre-abduction meetings

where they discussed

how they were going to pick him up and interrogate him.

"Do you know other people that were there?"

He said, "I know everybody. I know who picked him up."

He told me that René was a good friend who was also assigned

to Ernesto Fonseca's protection detail,

that he was also a homicide cop.

I said, "He was in the car when they picked up Kiki?"

He says, "Yes."

Ah, I said to Godoy, "Bastard, you sold me out."

I was thinking, "I'm getting fucked by these bastards."

I said, "I really want him real bad, Jorge. Please.

"Go down there and recruit him for me.

Help me get this guy."

We started to talk and Hector told me,

"If you tell me the truth,

"I can help you.

"But if you lie to me,

I'm going to take you down myself."

BERRELLEZ: He said, "Okay.

I'm gonna trust you. I'll come up."

LOPEZ: When I arrived in Tijuana,

at the border there were around 20, 25 DEA agents.

And I told my wife,

"If they arrest me, you all get out of here."

I brought my wife as well as my mother-in-law.

They both started crying,

and it was a real mess.

But Hector calmed them down and said, "No, no.

Nothing will happen to him."

One thing that surprised me about René, he was not a drinker.

Not a drinker at all.

This is a very concentrated guy, very focused guy.

He made me a little nervous, actually.

He looked like a cold-blooded killer to me.

You know, those-- that empty look in his eyes.

BERRELLEZ: Six months later, we recruit Ramón Lira,

another eyewitness to Kiki's murder.

He was René and Godoy's boss.

And he becomes my third witness.

I am all ears, man.

MEDRANO: When you're running a major investigation like this,

there's certain protocol,

certain rules you gotta follow,

so these informants are kept apart every single day.

They never mingle, they never saw each other.

They never spoke to each other.

They never read each other's written statements.

Because that's how you preserve their credibility.

So then begins a very lengthy process to try to ascertain

if this particular informant is being candid with us.

And here's how you do it.

You're the informant.

We sit down for two hours today.

Tell me everything that you saw.

Everything that happened.

Who was present.

I take copious notes.

I say, "Okay, thanks. We're gonna take a break.

I'll see you in two days."

Hector Berrellez brings him back.

We go through exactly the same thing.

Who was there? Tell me what happened.

We take another break. I'll see you in a week.

And this time, I don't wanna go chronologically.

Let me go to the very end.

Okay, now, let's jump to the beginning.

And finally, let's go to the middle part.

Chapter Two.

And if the story, the statement,

remains consistent throughout,

then I believe that informant.

INTERVIEWER: And when did you meet Fonseca

for the first time?

I met Ernesto Fonseca in 1984.

Always in a suit.

He was very well dressed.

And he had nice cars and good weapons.

You really believed he was a federal officer.

When Fonseca was doing well,

when he was not on drugs,

he was a nice person.

You could deal with him.

One time I went to his office,

at the house code-named "Restaurant One."

I was so sleepy that I lay down on the floor.

Suddenly I heard Fonseca open the door, so I jumped up.

But he said, "No, no, it's okay,

calm down, calm down. It's just me."

Five minutes later, Fonseca came back in

and covered me with a blanket.

GODOY: The personality of Caro Quintero and Fonseca,

one was like a teenager,

the other one an adult.

Ernesto Fonseca, more intelligent, older, sharper.

And the other bastard, Caro Quintero,

dirtier, more impulsive,

saying "I don't give a fuck, fuck your mother,

because I'm powerful and strong."

Caro Quintero had a saying: "The cockroach!"

"The cockroach!"

And when he said, "The cockroach!"

that meant you had to do what he told you, immediately.

If he liked a lady walking down the street,

he would order us, "Get her in the car."

At first, the lady was so scared,

because we were basically kidnapping her.

But Caro was good at calming and charming them.

LIRA: Fonseca used to tell us the following:

"When I'm resting,

that's when I really need you to protect me."

INTERVIEWER: He didn't sleep much, did he?

Not at all, because of the drugs.

Day and night, he was high.

They taught me how to make

cocaine base cigarettes,

so that I could stand next to and give them to him,

to my Master,

to Mr. Ernesto Fonseca Carrillo.

One night I was guarding Fonseca when he told me,

"Be alert, important people are coming."

And two men arrived who I recognized.

One was the former president Jose Lopez Portillo,

and the other was President Miguel de la Madrid.

They went into a locked office with my boss.

I saw the three of them together.

They were drinking and smoking freebase cocaine.

LOPEZ: We were driving in the car,

Samuel was here, Fonseca was driving,

me and this other guy.

And this guy was arguing with Fonseca,

they didn't get along.

"Fuck your mother, no you fuck your mother."

Fonseca was in a bad mood.

They kept arguing.

And Ernesto Fonseca slammed on the brakes.

We all jolted.

"I told you to shut the fuck up, son of a bitch."

And Fonseca points the gun at him. Bang, bang, bang!

He put three bullets in his head.

And Fonseca tells me, "Open the door

"and throw that fucking bastard out of here.

I don't want any trash here."

Well, I opened the door

and threw "the fucking bastard" out.

LIRA: I have another story.

On one occasion,

Caro Quintero told me,

"Hey look, let me tell you something...

"every two months or so

"we send free kilos

"to president Miguel de la Madrid Hurtado,

"the president of Mexico,

we send him kilos of cocaine."

That's what Caro Quintero told me.

MEDRANO: The drug cartel felt they could do whatever they want.

And they did not take lightly when, because of Camarena,

they lost over a billion dollars of marijuana

seized at Bufalo Ranch in Chihuahua.

This massive, extraordinary plantation

of marijuana out in the desert in Chihuahua

in the middle of nowhere.

And that was taken down.

MIKA: Kiki had discovered that acreage of marijuana,

and he kept telling Mexico City, the embassy,

and they said, "We can't do anything until you bring us evidence.

We need pictures."

I can assure you that if Kiki hadn't taken those pictures,

nothing would have happened.

MEDRANO: He was good at what he did.

And he inflicted tremendous pain,

financial pain, on the cartel.

And they were not gonna take that sitting down.

And they didn't.

INTERVIEWER: Where were you when you found out

about the Bufalo raid?

We were all in the living room with Ernesto Fonseca,

then Caro Quintero arrived,

and, he was really angry.

"How the fuck did this happen?"

He was so pissed off. Because he had already paid for-

what he called, "his rights," for the plantation.

Before he planted his crops there in El Bufalo,

before harvesting,

he had already sent a portion

to the president, Miguel de la Madrid.

Bartlett Diaz himself came to collect the money.

The part of the profits that belonged to the President.

INTERVIEWER: And how do you know that?

Because we all saw it.

We were there when they were

getting the boxes of money ready.

Caro Quintero was furious.

He was hurt.

Well, think about it, it was his biggest crop.

LIRA: The DEA was already on their minds

before the Bufalo Raid, because the DEA

was hitting them with seizures of money.

They developed a psychosis about the DEA-

and the DEA coming after them.

Any person who looked like a gringo was from the DEA.

So any gringo was in danger.

Gringo or gringa.

All of them, they were from the DEA.

MALE REPORTER: Guadalajara has rustic beauty.

But in recent months, this city of 3.5 million

has added something not found on postcards or in brochures.

Terror. Seven Americans are missing.

In December, Ben and Pat Mascarenas of Nevada

and Dennis and Rose Carlson of California

were abducted in broad daylight

in a rich suburb of Guadalajara.

All four are Jehovah's Witnesses.

GODOY: They came doing their God's mission.

Knocking door to door.

They knocked on the wrong door.

The women were dressed elegantly, the men in suits.

Ramon Lira told Fonseca that

two couples had come and rung the doorbell.

"Well, apparently they were from the DEA."

Because they were white.

Fonseca said, "What are you waiting for?

"Why come to tell me?

You already know what you have to do."

"Tie them up."

By then, they had started walking down the street,

as if they sensed something was wrong.

But we cornered them with one of our vans...

And Samuel pulled his gun on them.

"We are police."

Then Fonseca ordered me

to interrogate them.

"Let's see what they know about

"the police, the politicians,

"about the CIA, the DEA.

Ask them."

It was a police-style interrogation,

writing down questions and answers, all that.

"Who are you investigating? Who do you work for?"

Both the women and the men

said they were missionaries,

who carried the word of God.

INTERVIEWER: And what did you think?

I really believed them,

because they were terrified.

You could feel their fear.

I thought, they are telling the truth.

And when I took my report to Fonseca I told him,

"Sir, these people know nothing, they're innocent."

And Fonseca started laughing.

They take them from that house to some apartment,

and they start torturing them.

The women are raped in front of the husbands.

Then they're taken to a ranch where the women are repeatedly raped again.

And the women are being tortured

by running a rope between their legs.

Their vaginas are bleeding.

LOPEZ: And when Los Dormidos arrived,

Samuel Ramirez told them,

"There are four people there

that you must take to the graveyard."

They were crying, they were screaming...

They brought them down one by one,

and right near the edge of the well,

they shot them all, and they fell down.

One by one.

And that's the story of the Jehovah's Witnesses.

BERRELLEZ: There was another occasion

where two tourists that had walked into...

La Langosta restaurant,

a seafood restaurant owned by Rafael Caro Quintero.

Only high-quality seafood, fresh, special,

for the Narcos, for government people...

BERRELLEZ: Caro Quintero was there, Fonseca was there,

and they're all celebrating.

LIRA: I saw a table in the center.

I sat down there.

And after a while, Caro Quintero arrived.

"I want you to stay very alert," he told me.

Then two people arrived.

BERRELLEZ: One is John Walker.

The other one is Alberto Radelat.

They're both from Texas.

GODOY: And Caro told me,

"Tell them it's closed, tell them to go away."

So I went to the entrance to tell them,

"Sorry, it's closed, go away."

They started to speak only in English.

LIRA: Caro Quintero has an excellent ear,

Fonseca, all the Narcos have good ears,

exceptional ears.

I'm sorry. It's closed.

You have to go. Please go.

Get out of Here. You have to leave. Go.

LOPEZ: And then El Chapo started to yell,

"Those gringos, they are from the DEA!"

These guys are not DEA. They're just a couple of tourists.

GODOY: They had already turned around,

and had started to walk away.

LIRA: Then Caro Quintero and I went to the door.

He grabbed one man, I grabbed the other.

We pinned them against some coolers

that were next to the kitchen.

Caro Quintero jammed one man

face down against the ice.

I put the other one down.

♪ Beautiful adobe country home ♪

♪ Its door made of oak and mesquite ♪

That was the song that the band was playing.

"Make some noise, you bastards."

BERRELLEZ: El Chapo Guzmán, a coward, the psychopath,

he starts bone tickling him with ice picks...

trying to get him to admit they're DEA.

LOPEZ: So then, fucking Caro Quintero got really excited.

"You pricks, are you from the DEA?"

He grabbed one by the hair and began to stab him

in the head with an ice pick.

Then El Chapo told Caro, "Give me the ice pick!"

And El Chapo grabbed him this way by the hair

and cut his throat with it.

Caro Quintero pistol whipped

the second man in the head.

LIRA: He hit him so hard that he broke his gun.

He broke it on the guy's skull.

The gun was covered with rubies, diamonds.

It had "R1" written on it.

That was our code name for Caro Quintero.

If I had protested, I would have died with them.

LIRA: My clothes were covered in blood.

I grabbed him,

and I felt his body go slack.

That was when I realized he was already dead.

GODOY: The word started to spread outside

that they had killed the gringos.

Bunch of fucking murderers and cowards,

celebrating and shooting with their AK-47s,

celebrating like they had done

a great thing.

BERRELLEZ: They decapitate them, they dismember them,

then they wrap their bodies in tablecloths.

LOPEZ: And that was when "Los Dormidos" showed up

and El Chapo helped to take the bodies away.

And they buried them in La Primavera forest.

That was the second time El Chapo Guzman beat me.

MALE REPORTER: Eve Walker remains determined to find her husband...

dead or alive.

MALE REPORTER: For the families,

their emotional suffering reached its peak

when they identified the two bodies

at the decaying Guadalajara morgue.

Yesterday, police led the families to a remote forest

outside Guadalajara to examine the site where the bodies were buried.

At the bottom of the grave, the families had placed a makeshift wreath.

JORDAN: Prior to Kiki being kidnapped,

Caro Quintero Fonseca

and Gallardo

had already killed seven Americans.

Each time, Caro Quintero, in his own mind, thought,

"Oh, there's another DEA agent at the door. Get him."

And these poor innocents were murdered

and tortured and everything else.

But the government didn't get involved.

So then that makes...

Caro Quintero think that...

he's got a license to kill DEA agents.

And then when Kiki was murdered,

then they found out who we were.

INTERVIEWER: When and where do you meet the witnesses,

and what's your take on 'em?

JORDAN: I met those three individuals in California.

I interviewed them individually.

And I told Hector,

"These guys are telling the truth."

It dawned on me, you know,

for the very first time,

I'm hearing what really happened to Kiki.

For the very first time, the DEA is gonna get a glimpse

of who interrogated Kiki,

how they interrogated him,

and how he was tortured.

LOPEZ: I sat down with Hector and we started talking.

Hector told me, "I know that you were there.

"And I want you to talk to me.

Can you do it?"

I said, "Yes."

"I have the story from the very beginning...

until Kiki's death."

GODOY: We have to clarify everything, name by name,

one by one,

both Mexico's government,

and the United States government.

Rafael Caro Quintero, this message is for you.

And for you, Miguel Felix Gallardo.

Ernesto Fonseca Carrillo, for you too.

We are ready, and we are going all in,

you fucking assholes.

And I'm ready to die.