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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:07,474 --> 00:00:09,318 Previously on "The Betty Broderick Story"... 2 00:00:09,343 --> 00:00:10,651 The number one thing 3 00:00:10,693 --> 00:00:12,980 I loved about you in the beginning was how much you 4 00:00:13,355 --> 00:00:14,754 loved me and showed it. 5 00:00:14,788 --> 00:00:17,360 I want to be a responsible, sensitive 6 00:00:17,385 --> 00:00:18,887 husband, and father, 7 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:21,956 a person who will be missed when he dies. 8 00:00:21,990 --> 00:00:23,209 You make me forget that I'm angry 9 00:00:23,243 --> 00:00:24,792 at the asshole and his whore, 10 00:00:24,826 --> 00:00:26,561 and if I'm not angry, I'm not gonna make it. 11 00:00:26,594 --> 00:00:28,536 She's not gonna kill the golden goose, Richard. 12 00:00:28,576 --> 00:00:29,657 She just isn't. 13 00:00:29,696 --> 00:00:31,566 I haven't had anything my way. 14 00:00:31,599 --> 00:00:33,968 Daddy robbed me of everything I had on earth! 15 00:00:34,002 --> 00:00:36,804 He... your whole life and my whole life! 16 00:00:40,842 --> 00:00:43,411 Crazy... ...the monster... 17 00:00:43,444 --> 00:00:46,414 If you want to destroy me, get it over and done with. 18 00:00:46,447 --> 00:00:48,112 Mrs. Broderick is charged 19 00:00:48,146 --> 00:00:50,251 with two counts of first-degree murder. 20 00:00:50,285 --> 00:00:51,853 We enter a plea of not guilty 21 00:00:51,886 --> 00:00:53,014 and request a jury trial. 22 00:00:53,074 --> 00:00:54,375 You are the most important person I have 23 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,492 in the whole universe, bar absolutely none, 24 00:00:57,525 --> 00:00:59,460 and I'd be lost without you. 25 00:01:08,569 --> 00:01:10,095 I don't remember. 26 00:01:11,372 --> 00:01:12,501 I don't remember. 27 00:01:12,552 --> 00:01:14,275 Do you remember telling many people 28 00:01:14,309 --> 00:01:16,511 you dumped your kids off at his house because 29 00:01:16,544 --> 00:01:18,642 if you couldn't be Mrs. Dan Broderick, 30 00:01:18,700 --> 00:01:20,315 you weren't going to take care of the kids. 31 00:01:20,348 --> 00:01:21,616 Not those words. 32 00:01:21,649 --> 00:01:26,587 He had left me alone for months with the rats and everything. 33 00:01:26,621 --> 00:01:28,790 He didn't offer any help. I was overwhelmed. 34 00:01:28,823 --> 00:01:31,359 I wanted him to know how hard the job was 35 00:01:31,392 --> 00:01:33,094 of taking care of these kids. 36 00:01:33,127 --> 00:01:34,996 I wanted him to be involved. 37 00:01:35,021 --> 00:01:36,397 So you wanted to punish him? 38 00:01:36,431 --> 00:01:37,465 Make his life miserable 39 00:01:37,498 --> 00:01:40,635 by dumping four kids in an empty home, full-time. 40 00:01:40,668 --> 00:01:41,669 If that is what you want to say. 41 00:01:41,703 --> 00:01:43,805 I'm asking you. Remember? 42 00:01:43,838 --> 00:01:45,873 Remember, he wasn't talking about Linda, 43 00:01:45,907 --> 00:01:46,841 he wasn't talking about divorce, 44 00:01:46,874 --> 00:01:48,876 he wouldn't mention the word "separation," 45 00:01:48,910 --> 00:01:49,811 he just needed his space. 46 00:01:49,844 --> 00:01:51,980 So then why did you dump the kids off? 47 00:01:52,013 --> 00:01:53,247 Your Honor, I'm going to object. 48 00:01:53,281 --> 00:01:54,382 Argumentative. 49 00:01:54,415 --> 00:01:57,218 If bringing your kids to their father is dumping them, 50 00:01:57,251 --> 00:01:58,386 that's Ms. Wells' definition. 51 00:01:58,419 --> 00:02:00,062 Rephrase the question. 52 00:02:02,924 --> 00:02:04,622 Dear Mrs. Broderick, I read the articles 53 00:02:04,655 --> 00:02:07,095 about you in the "Register" and I had to write you. 54 00:02:07,128 --> 00:02:09,724 You have my understanding and sympathy. 55 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,000 I can personally relate to the inability 56 00:02:12,033 --> 00:02:15,269 to find proper representation if the spouse is prominent. 57 00:02:15,303 --> 00:02:19,140 The fining system stopped in December of 1986 58 00:02:19,173 --> 00:02:21,409 when a judge said he could not do that. 59 00:02:21,442 --> 00:02:22,552 If you have a complaint, 60 00:02:22,585 --> 00:02:23,845 you must file a contempt action. 61 00:02:23,878 --> 00:02:27,015 I don't remember about a contempt action, 62 00:02:27,048 --> 00:02:28,783 but I do know a judge said 63 00:02:28,816 --> 00:02:31,419 that Dan couldn't keep money out of the check anymore. 64 00:02:31,452 --> 00:02:33,855 At that time he was keeping money out of your checks, 65 00:02:33,888 --> 00:02:36,290 he was paying you voluntarily support. 66 00:02:36,324 --> 00:02:37,592 There was no court order 67 00:02:37,625 --> 00:02:39,728 - ordering him to pay you support. - Correct. 68 00:02:39,762 --> 00:02:42,145 So if he really wanted to be a jerk, 69 00:02:42,797 --> 00:02:44,815 he didn't have to pay you anything. 70 00:02:46,134 --> 00:02:47,201 Right. 71 00:02:47,235 --> 00:02:48,202 Dear Mrs. Broderick, 72 00:02:48,236 --> 00:02:49,630 I've been watching you on Court TV. 73 00:02:49,677 --> 00:02:51,223 When my husband left me, 74 00:02:51,247 --> 00:02:53,175 he was advised to postpone the settlement 75 00:02:53,208 --> 00:02:56,711 until a change in the divorce law to the infamous no-fault. 76 00:02:56,744 --> 00:02:58,279 I was a sitting duck and did not know it, 77 00:02:58,312 --> 00:02:59,514 just like you. 78 00:02:59,547 --> 00:03:03,684 I would like to have marked as a series of five checks, 79 00:03:03,718 --> 00:03:05,787 one, two, three, four, five, 80 00:03:05,820 --> 00:03:08,990 which appear to be written on Broderick's accounts. 81 00:03:09,023 --> 00:03:10,525 People's 53. 82 00:03:10,558 --> 00:03:15,196 Can you, um, identify this for us? 83 00:03:15,229 --> 00:03:17,331 A check to me in July, 1985. 84 00:03:17,365 --> 00:03:20,501 - For how much? - $3,000. 85 00:03:20,535 --> 00:03:22,757 - From whom? - From Dan. 86 00:03:22,790 --> 00:03:25,573 And did you put a little note on the bottom of that? 87 00:03:25,606 --> 00:03:28,142 - Yes. - What did you say? 88 00:03:28,176 --> 00:03:29,277 "Thanks, sweetie." 89 00:03:29,310 --> 00:03:30,678 Dear Betty, 90 00:03:30,711 --> 00:03:32,762 I saw you on the 11:00 news and thought, 91 00:03:33,163 --> 00:03:36,250 "There but for the grace of God go all of us 92 00:03:36,284 --> 00:03:39,087 "who have been stripped of our life as we knew it 93 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:42,816 "or thought it to be because of the success of our husbands 94 00:03:42,861 --> 00:03:44,338 which we contributed to." 95 00:03:44,368 --> 00:03:47,161 "Or accomplished for them." 96 00:03:47,195 --> 00:03:49,564 The fact is, Dan Broderick was very close-mouthed 97 00:03:49,597 --> 00:03:51,532 about the problems between you, isn't that true? 98 00:03:51,566 --> 00:03:52,767 Closed mouth to me, yes. 99 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:54,092 Close-mouthed to other people? 100 00:03:54,125 --> 00:03:55,302 No. 101 00:03:55,736 --> 00:03:57,772 He told his family and other people 102 00:03:57,805 --> 00:04:00,074 total untruths about what was going on. 103 00:04:00,108 --> 00:04:02,910 Complete lies, turning everything around. 104 00:04:02,944 --> 00:04:06,214 Denying anything with Linda, leading everyone to believe 105 00:04:06,247 --> 00:04:08,182 black was white and white was black. 106 00:04:08,216 --> 00:04:09,517 I read your recent interview. 107 00:04:09,550 --> 00:04:12,877 There are many people who do not consider you crazy 108 00:04:12,914 --> 00:04:15,123 but who do understand the possibility 109 00:04:15,156 --> 00:04:17,925 of being driven off-balance given the circumstances 110 00:04:17,959 --> 00:04:21,562 and degree of fear and stress and emotional abuse. 111 00:04:21,596 --> 00:04:22,730 Have faith. 112 00:04:22,778 --> 00:04:25,399 Did you talk around town in 1985 113 00:04:25,433 --> 00:04:27,834 about problems between you and Dan Broderick? 114 00:04:28,188 --> 00:04:29,639 Sure I did. 115 00:04:31,372 --> 00:04:34,041 Sure I would've been aghast at the... 116 00:04:34,075 --> 00:04:36,635 lying that had gone on for so long. 117 00:04:39,947 --> 00:04:43,350 Finding out that Linda had been in my house? 118 00:04:45,546 --> 00:04:47,915 Sure I said a lot of things to people. 119 00:04:48,022 --> 00:04:51,066 That was one of the reasons you started to lose your friends. 120 00:04:51,859 --> 00:04:53,327 You didn't talk about anything else 121 00:04:53,361 --> 00:04:55,763 other than your problems with Dan Broderick, right? 122 00:04:55,796 --> 00:04:59,199 I quit all the things I belong to. 123 00:05:00,168 --> 00:05:01,169 I quit the things at school. 124 00:05:01,202 --> 00:05:02,904 I didn't want to be around people 125 00:05:02,937 --> 00:05:04,238 when the only thing on my mind 126 00:05:04,272 --> 00:05:06,107 was the next court hearing, the next trial, 127 00:05:06,140 --> 00:05:08,109 the next whatever. 128 00:05:08,142 --> 00:05:10,011 I was totally under siege 129 00:05:10,044 --> 00:05:13,147 whether I lost everyone or everyone lost me. 130 00:05:15,650 --> 00:05:17,134 It didn't matter. 131 00:05:29,897 --> 00:05:31,387 You went through the kitchen, 132 00:05:31,420 --> 00:05:33,189 then the hallway to the stairs. 133 00:05:33,222 --> 00:05:34,693 You went up the stairs. 134 00:05:35,596 --> 00:05:36,930 You knew at this point 135 00:05:36,955 --> 00:05:39,190 you had the gun in your hand, correct? 136 00:05:39,407 --> 00:05:40,699 Yes. 137 00:05:45,079 --> 00:05:48,349 I was looking for Dan and I was very scared. 138 00:05:48,382 --> 00:05:51,334 And you knew that his bedroom was right off to the right 139 00:05:51,368 --> 00:05:53,795 at the top of the stairs, correct? 140 00:05:56,298 --> 00:05:57,591 Yes. 141 00:06:00,094 --> 00:06:01,896 When you left Dan Broderick's house, 142 00:06:01,929 --> 00:06:05,233 you said you drove to Clairemont. 143 00:06:05,266 --> 00:06:06,975 Is that correct? 144 00:06:07,335 --> 00:06:10,972 Uh, I... I ended up on a phone in Clairemont. 145 00:06:11,005 --> 00:06:13,074 I don't... I don't know how I got there. 146 00:06:13,107 --> 00:06:15,176 Do you recall where this phone was? 147 00:06:15,209 --> 00:06:18,813 Someone asked. Whoever I'd called. 148 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:20,748 I looked around. 149 00:06:20,781 --> 00:06:23,116 I know Clairemont well on a normal day. 150 00:06:24,485 --> 00:06:26,244 I had no idea where I was. 151 00:06:27,245 --> 00:06:29,223 Thank you for your sweet note. 152 00:06:29,257 --> 00:06:31,292 Seems I have a lot of people out there 153 00:06:31,325 --> 00:06:32,426 who sympathize with me. 154 00:06:32,460 --> 00:06:35,696 Also, I'm sorry for my very inelegant stationary. 155 00:06:35,730 --> 00:06:37,932 Willful needs intentional. 156 00:06:37,965 --> 00:06:40,868 Deliberate means after careful thought. 157 00:06:40,901 --> 00:06:43,070 And the law is clear. 158 00:06:43,104 --> 00:06:46,107 There is not set amount of days or minutes required 159 00:06:46,140 --> 00:06:48,558 for premeditation to have been present. 160 00:06:49,043 --> 00:06:52,113 A cold, calculated judgment may be arrived at 161 00:06:52,146 --> 00:06:54,448 in a very short period of time. 162 00:06:54,482 --> 00:06:56,688 Thank you for your sweet care package. 163 00:06:56,722 --> 00:06:58,753 No one out there has any idea 164 00:06:58,786 --> 00:07:00,888 of what I was forced to endure. 165 00:07:00,921 --> 00:07:02,056 It's important to point out 166 00:07:02,089 --> 00:07:05,627 the fact the defendant was feeling many emotions 167 00:07:05,651 --> 00:07:07,920 does not mean she could not form 168 00:07:07,953 --> 00:07:10,455 a premeditated intent to kill. 169 00:07:10,489 --> 00:07:12,291 Feeling emotions and making decisions 170 00:07:12,324 --> 00:07:13,392 are not mutually exclusive. 171 00:07:13,855 --> 00:07:16,995 In fact, we all do them both at once all the time. 172 00:07:17,029 --> 00:07:20,432 This is a story of legal terrorism and corruption. 173 00:07:20,465 --> 00:07:21,966 Please keep in touch. 174 00:07:22,015 --> 00:07:24,603 Send me things to read and thank you for the socks. 175 00:07:24,636 --> 00:07:27,105 Sincerely, Betty Broderick. 176 00:07:27,139 --> 00:07:29,516 ...of the nature of the allegations. 177 00:07:30,517 --> 00:07:34,279 I was surprised, in disbelief, 178 00:07:34,313 --> 00:07:35,747 and again hurt... 179 00:07:35,781 --> 00:07:37,749 You believe this shit? 180 00:07:37,783 --> 00:07:39,090 Do I believe it? Yes. 181 00:07:39,127 --> 00:07:41,620 Guys on there before were calling her "a woman scorned." 182 00:07:41,653 --> 00:07:43,446 Anita Hill. 183 00:07:44,906 --> 00:07:46,992 They call you that a lot, too. 184 00:07:47,593 --> 00:07:48,860 They like that one. 185 00:07:49,411 --> 00:07:50,696 Being scorned just means 186 00:07:50,729 --> 00:07:52,455 other people think you're worthless. 187 00:07:54,833 --> 00:07:56,301 Doesn't mean you are. 188 00:07:56,335 --> 00:07:58,203 Is there any reason to believe 189 00:07:58,237 --> 00:08:00,739 that further deliberations would lead to verdict? 190 00:08:01,479 --> 00:08:02,681 No. 191 00:08:02,841 --> 00:08:05,010 Well, I've been instructed that your deadlocked 192 00:08:05,279 --> 00:08:07,813 and that further deliberations would be fruitless. 193 00:08:07,846 --> 00:08:09,414 Is this a true statement from your point of view, 194 00:08:09,448 --> 00:08:10,482 Juror Number One? 195 00:08:10,515 --> 00:08:12,251 I don't think anybody thought 196 00:08:12,284 --> 00:08:13,485 she went over there to kill herself, 197 00:08:13,518 --> 00:08:15,603 but I felt she was provoked. 198 00:08:15,636 --> 00:08:17,656 Is this a true statement from your point of view, 199 00:08:17,689 --> 00:08:18,757 Juror Number Seven? 200 00:08:18,790 --> 00:08:20,993 Talking about him, what kind of guy he was, 201 00:08:21,026 --> 00:08:24,062 putting him on trial, I think that worked. 202 00:08:24,096 --> 00:08:25,410 It's probably why we got hung up. 203 00:08:25,443 --> 00:08:27,332 Is this a true statement from your point of view, 204 00:08:27,366 --> 00:08:28,533 Juror Number Ten? 205 00:08:28,567 --> 00:08:30,068 Yes, Your Honor. 206 00:08:30,102 --> 00:08:31,536 Every human has a breaking point. 207 00:08:31,570 --> 00:08:33,739 With humans or any animal, 208 00:08:33,772 --> 00:08:35,841 you push 'em to that point, they're gonna bite back. 209 00:08:35,874 --> 00:08:37,029 I'll be honest, 210 00:08:37,061 --> 00:08:39,711 I was disappointed they couldn't argue self-defense 211 00:08:39,745 --> 00:08:41,346 on the grounds that she was abused. 212 00:08:41,380 --> 00:08:45,050 Her mind was battered... emotionally battered. 213 00:08:45,083 --> 00:08:47,786 They should change the laws to protect women like she was, 214 00:08:47,819 --> 00:08:49,354 that's what I thought. 215 00:08:49,388 --> 00:08:53,892 After I heard everything, what took her so long? 216 00:08:58,177 --> 00:09:06,177 Synced & corrected by -robtor- www.addic7ed.com 217 00:09:08,023 --> 00:09:09,532 50 letters like that. 218 00:09:09,557 --> 00:09:13,078 75 the week before the "Ladies' Home Journal" article. 219 00:09:13,111 --> 00:09:16,281 But now, they're from all over. Philippines, Australia. 220 00:09:16,315 --> 00:09:19,785 They send me money, candy, cigarettes, from one article. 221 00:09:19,818 --> 00:09:21,353 How can this not be great for us? 222 00:09:21,386 --> 00:09:25,057 It is, but you just can't let it make you too confident. 223 00:09:25,090 --> 00:09:27,726 One more hung jury, and they gotta let me go. 224 00:09:27,759 --> 00:09:29,243 How many times can you try a person? 225 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,096 Well, we gotta get through the second trial first. 226 00:09:31,129 --> 00:09:33,198 Well, we already know how to do that. 227 00:09:33,231 --> 00:09:36,168 Well, if it was just gonna be the first trial again, 228 00:09:36,201 --> 00:09:37,569 you'd be right, but it won't. 229 00:09:37,602 --> 00:09:38,670 How different can it be? 230 00:09:38,704 --> 00:09:41,573 They gave us their best shot and you already saw it. 231 00:09:41,606 --> 00:09:44,576 I saw a tactical miscalculation, Betty. 232 00:09:44,609 --> 00:09:46,678 And she skipped over what happened in the bedroom 233 00:09:46,712 --> 00:09:49,614 and she did it as a reaction to the defense we mounted 234 00:09:49,648 --> 00:09:51,516 and obviously, I'm glad about that. 235 00:09:51,550 --> 00:09:53,151 But she won't do it twice. 236 00:09:53,185 --> 00:09:54,886 The press and the public know 237 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:56,922 that the prosecution couldn't convince a jury. 238 00:09:56,955 --> 00:09:58,056 Yes, right. 239 00:09:58,090 --> 00:10:00,525 And the new jury pool will know the previous jury hung, 240 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:02,627 but that means they also will know 241 00:10:02,661 --> 00:10:04,463 that some wanted to convict. 242 00:10:04,496 --> 00:10:06,498 And the DA's office is pissed now. 243 00:10:06,531 --> 00:10:08,100 They will go through those transcripts 244 00:10:08,133 --> 00:10:11,370 with a fine-toothed comb for Wells to help her prepare, 245 00:10:11,403 --> 00:10:13,472 especially for questioning you. 246 00:10:17,209 --> 00:10:19,611 Are the boys still coming to San Diego? 247 00:10:19,644 --> 00:10:20,812 Of course. 248 00:10:20,846 --> 00:10:22,013 I would've told you if they weren't. 249 00:10:22,047 --> 00:10:24,950 But their lawyer and a social worker are still coming, too. 250 00:10:24,983 --> 00:10:27,569 Fine, I don't care. They're still my babies. 251 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,624 Uh, when are we gonna revisit bail? 252 00:10:32,657 --> 00:10:34,426 - Betty... - Jack, you promised! 253 00:10:34,459 --> 00:10:36,197 You promised you would argue bail. 254 00:10:36,230 --> 00:10:39,865 I will, but they will argue that you are a double murderer, 255 00:10:39,898 --> 00:10:42,134 a danger to society, and a flight risk, 256 00:10:42,167 --> 00:10:43,469 and they will win. 257 00:10:43,494 --> 00:10:45,504 They just set bail for... for... 258 00:10:45,537 --> 00:10:47,272 in Milwaukee, Jeffrey Dahmer! 259 00:10:47,305 --> 00:10:48,400 I heard it on the radio. 260 00:10:48,444 --> 00:10:50,509 Impossible bail. A million dollars. 261 00:10:50,542 --> 00:10:52,010 But it was set. 262 00:10:55,046 --> 00:10:56,648 Maybe I should've eaten them. 263 00:10:56,681 --> 00:10:59,184 Maybe then my bail would've been set, too. 264 00:11:04,222 --> 00:11:07,058 Karen, it's Betty. 265 00:11:07,092 --> 00:11:08,460 Hi. 266 00:11:08,985 --> 00:11:10,729 You know, I escaped. 267 00:11:10,762 --> 00:11:13,532 I escaped and I'm at the 7-Eleven on Octavia 268 00:11:13,565 --> 00:11:14,666 and I need you to come get me. 269 00:11:14,699 --> 00:11:17,102 And you gotta come quickly because I... I'm not... 270 00:11:17,135 --> 00:11:18,270 I'm gonna get recognized. 271 00:11:18,303 --> 00:11:20,172 Janet, I need your help. 272 00:11:20,205 --> 00:11:22,507 Yeah. 273 00:11:22,541 --> 00:11:25,577 I escaped from jail with these other girls, and they... 274 00:11:25,610 --> 00:11:26,912 yes, and then they all just disappeared 275 00:11:26,945 --> 00:11:28,079 and they left me here. 276 00:11:28,113 --> 00:11:30,182 Can you please come get me? 277 00:11:30,215 --> 00:11:32,717 Can you come right now? Right now? 278 00:11:32,751 --> 00:11:36,221 Right now. 279 00:11:37,382 --> 00:11:38,590 I'll be hiding behind the dumpster. 280 00:11:38,623 --> 00:11:39,911 Just honk your horn and I'll run out. 281 00:11:39,948 --> 00:11:41,827 Oh, and can you bring sunglasses and a hat? 282 00:11:41,860 --> 00:11:44,629 Thank you so much, Marie. 283 00:11:44,663 --> 00:11:45,730 No, of course not. 284 00:11:45,764 --> 00:11:47,299 April Fool's. 285 00:11:47,332 --> 00:11:48,607 I said this country 286 00:11:48,648 --> 00:11:50,836 has to redefine its definition of a weapon. 287 00:11:50,869 --> 00:11:52,804 I said the law has to take into account 288 00:11:52,838 --> 00:11:54,265 the differences between men and women 289 00:11:54,310 --> 00:11:56,041 and their respective power... men have all of it. 290 00:11:56,074 --> 00:11:57,943 I said, you bet Dan Broderick was a great lawyer, 291 00:11:57,976 --> 00:11:59,209 that's how he could do to me what he did. 292 00:11:59,242 --> 00:12:02,280 Joe Blow wouldn't have had the know-how or the clout. 293 00:12:02,314 --> 00:12:04,216 I said I represent 294 00:12:04,249 --> 00:12:07,986 the extremes of what can happen to women in divorce courts. 295 00:12:08,019 --> 00:12:09,295 Ah. 296 00:12:10,322 --> 00:12:11,423 And this airs Sunday night? 297 00:12:11,456 --> 00:12:12,390 Yes. 298 00:12:12,424 --> 00:12:15,340 And next up, "People" magazine. 299 00:12:15,373 --> 00:12:17,896 Yeah, I wanted to talk to you about that. 300 00:12:17,929 --> 00:12:19,254 What do you want to talk about? 301 00:12:19,303 --> 00:12:20,632 I just don't have a good feeling about it. 302 00:12:20,665 --> 00:12:21,764 Oh, based on all the interviews 303 00:12:21,798 --> 00:12:22,934 you've done for "People" magazine? 304 00:12:22,968 --> 00:12:24,269 Based on the reporter 305 00:12:24,302 --> 00:12:26,204 giving me a bad feeling when we talked. 306 00:12:26,238 --> 00:12:28,240 You expect me to honor your bad feelings. 307 00:12:28,273 --> 00:12:29,341 I'll take my chances, 308 00:12:29,374 --> 00:12:32,235 and I'll take them with all the other reporters, too. 309 00:12:32,878 --> 00:12:34,579 Fine, okay. 310 00:12:36,381 --> 00:12:37,976 I want you to read these over. 311 00:12:38,004 --> 00:12:39,951 The transcripts of you and Wells. 312 00:12:39,985 --> 00:12:41,853 Now she's gonna be more focused this time. 313 00:12:41,887 --> 00:12:43,588 She's going to be strategic. 314 00:12:43,622 --> 00:12:44,763 She won't forget to ask you 315 00:12:44,805 --> 00:12:46,458 what happened in that room this time. 316 00:12:46,491 --> 00:12:48,193 Now, she may make mistakes, 317 00:12:48,226 --> 00:12:49,895 but they won't be the same ones. 318 00:12:49,928 --> 00:12:51,730 You have to be ready. 319 00:12:56,401 --> 00:13:00,272 I know how to tell my story, Jack, 'kay? 320 00:13:04,267 --> 00:13:05,820 And you should trust me. 321 00:13:11,190 --> 00:13:12,859 Did she have motive? 322 00:13:13,685 --> 00:13:15,236 Absolutely. 323 00:13:16,087 --> 00:13:19,073 Probably the oldest, most common motive there is. 324 00:13:20,725 --> 00:13:21,993 Hate. 325 00:13:22,761 --> 00:13:25,397 Pure, intense, 326 00:13:25,430 --> 00:13:27,999 obsessive, jealous hate. 327 00:13:29,901 --> 00:13:32,337 Being scorned, romantically rejected 328 00:13:32,370 --> 00:13:34,539 is common to both sexes. 329 00:13:34,573 --> 00:13:35,738 Being angry, hurt, 330 00:13:35,771 --> 00:13:39,144 even wanting some kind of revenge is universal. 331 00:13:39,677 --> 00:13:42,147 Most people put that hurt and anger behind them. 332 00:13:42,180 --> 00:13:45,383 You will hear how Elisabeth Broderick chose not to. 333 00:13:45,417 --> 00:13:48,102 That was a choice she made. 334 00:13:48,553 --> 00:13:51,222 That hate became her life 335 00:13:51,256 --> 00:13:53,325 and she is still filled with it. 336 00:13:53,358 --> 00:13:57,529 To really understand where we get to, what we value, 337 00:13:57,562 --> 00:14:01,633 how we feel, you have to look at what's inside. 338 00:14:01,666 --> 00:14:05,870 How all the things that happen to you intertwine. 339 00:14:05,904 --> 00:14:08,440 To know how Elisabeth Broderick got here, 340 00:14:08,473 --> 00:14:12,611 you have to see who she is and who Dan Broderick was. 341 00:14:12,644 --> 00:14:16,589 To understand her life, how she came to be with him, 342 00:14:17,215 --> 00:14:18,800 the promises 343 00:14:19,484 --> 00:14:21,427 and the dreams they had, 344 00:14:22,921 --> 00:14:24,723 and what happened to them. 345 00:14:28,860 --> 00:14:31,433 Obviously, I don't know what the angle of your article will be, 346 00:14:31,466 --> 00:14:33,064 but I think them not being able to reach a verdict 347 00:14:33,098 --> 00:14:36,034 was a sign of total confusion, 348 00:14:36,067 --> 00:14:38,069 which even I have about this case. 349 00:14:38,103 --> 00:14:41,332 No one... no one... not me, not anyone, 350 00:14:41,366 --> 00:14:43,241 is gonna vote for killing someone. 351 00:14:43,274 --> 00:14:45,159 But this story, 352 00:14:46,911 --> 00:14:48,780 it's just such a desperate situation. 353 00:14:48,813 --> 00:14:50,415 You have people all over the place. 354 00:14:50,832 --> 00:14:53,251 I mean, I talked to people in San Diego, La Jolla, 355 00:14:53,284 --> 00:14:55,153 even my driver from the airport yesterday 356 00:14:55,186 --> 00:14:56,821 knew all about your case. 357 00:14:56,855 --> 00:14:58,256 He called you "used and abused." 358 00:14:58,289 --> 00:14:59,157 I was not in control 359 00:14:59,190 --> 00:15:03,061 and I'm... I'm not as brave as people think. 360 00:15:03,094 --> 00:15:05,964 Maybe they just see me as the first in a generation of women 361 00:15:05,997 --> 00:15:08,166 who are not gonna destroy themselves 362 00:15:08,199 --> 00:15:11,302 when a man in their lives says, "You're garbage, I'm through." 363 00:15:11,336 --> 00:15:12,517 One woman in La Jolla said 364 00:15:12,565 --> 00:15:14,205 she thought what you'd done was important, 365 00:15:14,239 --> 00:15:16,675 that the next Dan Broderick would think twice, 366 00:15:16,708 --> 00:15:19,736 that sometimes you need a little prairie justice. 367 00:15:20,111 --> 00:15:22,313 What's Betty Broderick's opinion? 368 00:15:24,716 --> 00:15:26,618 You know I can't answer that. 369 00:15:31,122 --> 00:15:33,324 But you know what the answer is? 370 00:15:46,805 --> 00:15:49,574 Here. Right through there. 371 00:15:52,610 --> 00:15:54,512 Hey, guys! 372 00:15:56,781 --> 00:15:58,416 Hey. 373 00:15:58,450 --> 00:16:00,752 Oh, you're all dressed up. 374 00:16:05,290 --> 00:16:06,691 You want a hug? 375 00:16:10,095 --> 00:16:11,262 Maybe later. 376 00:16:11,296 --> 00:16:13,331 Come sit down. 377 00:16:14,065 --> 00:16:15,600 Sit down. 378 00:16:24,275 --> 00:16:27,011 I wrote down all my questions. Is that silly? 379 00:16:27,051 --> 00:16:27,946 I just don't want to forget 380 00:16:27,979 --> 00:16:30,248 to ask you anything about your life. 381 00:16:34,285 --> 00:16:38,556 You guys are so tall. You got so tall. 382 00:16:41,926 --> 00:16:43,928 Was that bedroom to the right at the top 383 00:16:43,962 --> 00:16:45,396 the first one you went into? 384 00:16:45,430 --> 00:16:46,823 Yes. 385 00:16:47,632 --> 00:16:49,367 And what did you find? 386 00:16:51,269 --> 00:16:53,505 I saw both of the bodies. 387 00:16:53,538 --> 00:16:55,340 What did you do when you saw them? 388 00:16:55,373 --> 00:16:58,376 I ran over, got down by Dan, 389 00:16:58,409 --> 00:17:01,513 put my hand on his throat for a pulse. 390 00:17:01,546 --> 00:17:03,005 It was cold. 391 00:17:03,414 --> 00:17:05,967 I felt Linda's throat, the side of it, 392 00:17:06,384 --> 00:17:08,753 she was cold, too, with no pulse. 393 00:17:10,155 --> 00:17:12,557 Did you see a phone in the bedroom? 394 00:17:12,590 --> 00:17:16,628 No, I had seen a phone on the floor in the hall 395 00:17:16,661 --> 00:17:18,062 as I came up the stairs. 396 00:17:18,096 --> 00:17:20,165 I ran by it. I didn't know why it was there. 397 00:17:20,198 --> 00:17:21,299 Did you attempt to call out on it? 398 00:17:21,332 --> 00:17:24,969 No, I could tell my looking the wire was shredded. 399 00:17:25,003 --> 00:17:26,104 It... it wasn't going to work. 400 00:17:26,137 --> 00:17:28,072 So you went to leave the house to call the police, 401 00:17:28,106 --> 00:17:31,442 but they were already arriving there, is that correct? 402 00:17:31,476 --> 00:17:34,203 Yes, there were officers walking in. 403 00:17:34,612 --> 00:17:38,416 I said, "The people who live inside... 404 00:17:38,950 --> 00:17:40,718 "they are upstairs. 405 00:17:40,752 --> 00:17:42,253 "They are... 406 00:17:43,888 --> 00:17:45,548 "both dead. 407 00:17:47,082 --> 00:17:48,262 I'll show you." 408 00:17:48,295 --> 00:17:50,895 How would you describe how she felt about Dan and Linda? 409 00:17:50,929 --> 00:17:51,830 She hated them. 410 00:17:51,863 --> 00:17:54,399 - On a scale of one to ten? - Over ten. 411 00:17:55,758 --> 00:17:57,001 Ten-plus-plus. 412 00:17:57,035 --> 00:17:59,237 I told her she was losing friends. 413 00:17:59,270 --> 00:18:02,140 She was getting boring. No one really cared. 414 00:18:02,173 --> 00:18:05,076 And she should redirect, refocus. 415 00:18:05,109 --> 00:18:07,478 Did she ever actually do that? 416 00:18:09,113 --> 00:18:12,250 - No. - I had a party at the beach house. 417 00:18:12,283 --> 00:18:14,419 I had some friends, my family, 418 00:18:14,452 --> 00:18:17,121 and I kind of begged her to keep her mouth shut 419 00:18:17,155 --> 00:18:19,724 about this divorce, but we couldn't get her to let go. 420 00:18:19,757 --> 00:18:23,224 It was rude and everyone was sick of it. 421 00:18:23,257 --> 00:18:26,264 All I know is that she wanted those children 422 00:18:26,297 --> 00:18:28,833 and she was trying to gain control of her life 423 00:18:28,867 --> 00:18:31,436 to get it back in order so that she could have them. 424 00:18:31,469 --> 00:18:33,938 She told you about taking the children over 425 00:18:33,972 --> 00:18:36,374 and giving them to Dan, correct? 426 00:18:36,407 --> 00:18:38,443 She never would've given up those children 427 00:18:38,476 --> 00:18:40,445 if she thought that he would take them. 428 00:18:40,478 --> 00:18:44,749 She used it as a ploy to make him assume some responsibility 429 00:18:44,782 --> 00:18:46,818 which he had never had with those kids. 430 00:18:46,851 --> 00:18:48,453 But she did say, 431 00:18:48,486 --> 00:18:51,055 "He's out there having a great single life, 432 00:18:51,089 --> 00:18:54,325 why should I take care of the kids while he's out playing?" 433 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:58,263 Yes, but I understood why she said that. 434 00:18:58,296 --> 00:19:00,031 It was very obvious to me. 435 00:19:00,064 --> 00:19:01,766 Did she describe what her attitude was 436 00:19:01,799 --> 00:19:03,593 about being in jail? 437 00:19:03,626 --> 00:19:06,181 I don't think jail was too traumatic. 438 00:19:06,215 --> 00:19:08,273 I don't remember being concerned. 439 00:19:08,306 --> 00:19:11,009 Just that she had gone to jail. 440 00:19:11,042 --> 00:19:12,644 Spent three days, five days, 441 00:19:12,677 --> 00:19:15,747 and it just didn't seem to be a problem. 442 00:19:15,780 --> 00:19:18,483 She kind of related it to being at summer camp. 443 00:19:18,516 --> 00:19:20,985 Away from everyone, away from everything. 444 00:19:21,019 --> 00:19:22,120 Can you describe 445 00:19:22,153 --> 00:19:25,123 how she would talk about the children's' father and Linda 446 00:19:25,156 --> 00:19:26,190 in front of the children? 447 00:19:26,224 --> 00:19:28,860 In the same terms. 448 00:19:28,893 --> 00:19:33,798 She always referred to them using the same vulgar names. 449 00:19:33,831 --> 00:19:35,834 Was that often, or was that occasional? 450 00:19:35,875 --> 00:19:38,836 All of the time, all of the time. 451 00:19:38,870 --> 00:19:41,306 Did you talk to her about not doing it? 452 00:19:41,339 --> 00:19:43,474 She kind of shrugged her shoulders. 453 00:19:43,508 --> 00:19:45,476 Said, "That is what they are." 454 00:19:45,510 --> 00:19:48,546 She worshipped money. It was her main goal in life. 455 00:19:48,579 --> 00:19:50,288 She loved it more than her children. 456 00:19:50,317 --> 00:19:52,784 She's a very materialistic person, always was. 457 00:19:52,817 --> 00:19:54,819 An alcoholic spender. 458 00:19:54,852 --> 00:19:58,405 So pretty much a fairly disgusting person 459 00:19:58,439 --> 00:20:00,858 whose main concern was money. 460 00:20:00,892 --> 00:20:02,660 Very few redeeming qualities, 461 00:20:02,694 --> 00:20:05,830 and yet for whatever reason, this was your friend. 462 00:20:05,863 --> 00:20:07,165 Nothing more. 463 00:20:07,198 --> 00:20:10,320 Did you ever hear her use the words, "kill" or "threaten?" 464 00:20:10,361 --> 00:20:11,379 Yes. 465 00:20:11,415 --> 00:20:12,855 Can you explain those circumstances? 466 00:20:12,918 --> 00:20:14,605 That same context of, 467 00:20:14,639 --> 00:20:16,421 what can you do, you are trapped, 468 00:20:16,454 --> 00:20:18,676 you are the person who can't get out 469 00:20:18,710 --> 00:20:21,980 and every time you turn, the system puts you in a corner 470 00:20:22,013 --> 00:20:23,247 and the frustration was such 471 00:20:23,281 --> 00:20:25,383 she would say, "I'm going to kill 'em." 472 00:20:25,416 --> 00:20:27,819 And I just sort of had to nod my head. 473 00:20:27,852 --> 00:20:29,068 I saw her in person 474 00:20:29,101 --> 00:20:31,356 I would say probably three times a week. 475 00:20:31,389 --> 00:20:32,924 And I talked with her probably every day. 476 00:20:32,957 --> 00:20:35,860 At the time you met her, did she... 477 00:20:36,802 --> 00:20:40,164 was there an overriding emotion you would see with her? 478 00:20:40,198 --> 00:20:41,699 I saw a veil of depression 479 00:20:41,733 --> 00:20:43,534 that seemed to be with Betty the whole time I knew her. 480 00:20:43,568 --> 00:20:45,703 Can you describe her, emotionally, 481 00:20:45,737 --> 00:20:48,046 in the months preceding November 5, 1989? 482 00:20:48,098 --> 00:20:50,308 She seemed to be a person that was giving up on herself. 483 00:20:50,341 --> 00:20:51,776 Did she say anything on that call 484 00:20:51,809 --> 00:20:54,379 about why she killed Dan and Linda? 485 00:20:54,412 --> 00:20:58,383 Linda was destroying her family, destroying her life. 486 00:20:58,416 --> 00:21:02,587 I said back to her, "So you destroyed her?" 487 00:21:03,388 --> 00:21:05,390 She said, "Yes." 488 00:21:05,423 --> 00:21:07,525 Did she laugh? 489 00:21:09,986 --> 00:21:11,128 Yes. 490 00:21:14,565 --> 00:21:17,368 Do you remember how your family was before they split? 491 00:21:17,402 --> 00:21:20,471 - How did it... - Objection, beyond the scope. 492 00:21:20,505 --> 00:21:22,740 Overruled. You can answer it. 493 00:21:26,018 --> 00:21:27,278 Before my parents separated, 494 00:21:27,311 --> 00:21:30,314 I thought we had a really happy family. 495 00:21:30,606 --> 00:21:33,017 He treated us really well. 496 00:21:36,454 --> 00:21:37,988 He wasn't... 497 00:21:39,590 --> 00:21:43,619 good at the fathering thing at first, but... 498 00:21:44,508 --> 00:21:46,330 he got better. 499 00:21:48,833 --> 00:21:53,879 He didn't know how to show his emotions and stuff. 500 00:21:54,272 --> 00:21:56,298 I mean, he wasn't perfect, 501 00:21:57,275 --> 00:21:59,427 but he was a really good dad. 502 00:22:01,979 --> 00:22:04,140 And he tried really hard. 503 00:22:04,974 --> 00:22:09,311 Did you have any question in your mind that he loved you? 504 00:22:12,190 --> 00:22:13,991 I knew he did. 505 00:22:14,025 --> 00:22:15,326 I can't make this stop. 506 00:22:15,693 --> 00:22:17,328 I couldn't even stand up. 507 00:22:19,797 --> 00:22:25,136 I just didn't know where to go, who to call, or... 508 00:22:25,169 --> 00:22:28,339 I just didn't know what to do, so I just left the house. 509 00:22:28,726 --> 00:22:30,833 There was so much going on, these... 510 00:22:31,342 --> 00:22:34,178 crazy thoughts, this anguish. 511 00:22:34,212 --> 00:22:37,215 My eyeballs were turned around inside of my head. 512 00:22:39,717 --> 00:22:42,303 The whole world was inside my head. 513 00:22:43,304 --> 00:22:46,098 I was going to go to the beach and do it. 514 00:22:46,491 --> 00:22:48,642 I had no life left, anyway. 515 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:51,863 Did you end up going to the beach? 516 00:23:00,104 --> 00:23:03,282 I left the house to go to the beach, but... 517 00:23:11,449 --> 00:23:13,417 I never went to the beach, no. 518 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:30,401 "Asshole, 519 00:23:30,434 --> 00:23:33,187 "Jenjen told me you're afraid of me. 520 00:23:33,604 --> 00:23:35,406 "You better damn well be afraid of me 521 00:23:35,439 --> 00:23:37,375 if you keep pulling shit like this." 522 00:23:37,408 --> 00:23:38,409 Well... 523 00:23:38,442 --> 00:23:40,378 Around the time of the wedding, she told me that. 524 00:23:40,411 --> 00:23:41,646 I made a joke. 525 00:23:41,679 --> 00:23:42,914 You thought it was funny? 526 00:23:42,947 --> 00:23:44,695 Dan Broderick was never afraid of me. 527 00:23:44,723 --> 00:23:46,330 How many times was it you re-read 528 00:23:46,365 --> 00:23:47,885 this Marriage Encounter book? 529 00:23:47,919 --> 00:23:50,454 - Over the years? - In 1989. 530 00:23:50,488 --> 00:23:52,581 I'm, I... 531 00:23:54,258 --> 00:23:55,693 a lot, I've read it a lot. 532 00:23:55,726 --> 00:23:57,361 This was the Marriage Encounter 533 00:23:57,395 --> 00:23:58,596 that Dan had written to you 534 00:23:58,629 --> 00:24:01,499 about what you felt were the promises he had made to you... 535 00:24:01,532 --> 00:24:03,537 - promises that he had broken. - Yes. 536 00:24:03,590 --> 00:24:06,437 So 1989 was the 20th anniversary 537 00:24:06,470 --> 00:24:08,472 of your wedding to Dan Broderick, 538 00:24:08,506 --> 00:24:10,508 and the weekend of November 5th, 539 00:24:10,541 --> 00:24:11,942 when you killed him, 540 00:24:11,968 --> 00:24:14,045 was the anniversary of your Marriage Encounter, 541 00:24:14,078 --> 00:24:17,081 which was also on November 5th, correct? 542 00:24:17,114 --> 00:24:19,140 - Yes. - Was that something you recognized 543 00:24:19,173 --> 00:24:21,385 as you re-read this Marriage Encounter book 544 00:24:21,419 --> 00:24:23,120 shortly before you killed them? 545 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:24,329 No. 546 00:24:24,362 --> 00:24:25,489 Where were you when you made the decision 547 00:24:25,523 --> 00:24:27,758 to not go to the beach, 548 00:24:27,792 --> 00:24:29,594 but to go to Dan Broderick's house instead? 549 00:24:29,627 --> 00:24:32,263 - I don't know. - But you made the decision. 550 00:24:32,296 --> 00:24:35,733 You wanted to go to his house to blow your brains out. 551 00:24:35,766 --> 00:24:37,468 Well, there were so many thoughts 552 00:24:37,501 --> 00:24:39,203 going on in my head at the time. 553 00:24:39,237 --> 00:24:40,638 When was it you checked 554 00:24:40,671 --> 00:24:42,807 to make sure the gun was still inside your purse 555 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:44,809 so that you could blow your brains out? 556 00:24:44,842 --> 00:24:46,477 No, the gun was always inside the purse. 557 00:24:46,510 --> 00:24:48,637 If the purse was there, the gun was there. 558 00:24:49,247 --> 00:24:51,181 You found a set of keys. 559 00:24:51,701 --> 00:24:54,204 It didn't occur to you that these were Tracy's, 560 00:24:54,418 --> 00:24:56,554 who had lost her keys? 561 00:24:56,587 --> 00:24:58,489 Nobody was missing keys. 562 00:24:58,522 --> 00:25:00,958 And so you felt by breaking in 563 00:25:00,992 --> 00:25:05,229 and confronting him in his bedroom at 5:00 in the morning, 564 00:25:05,263 --> 00:25:06,964 he was gonna be inclined to give you what you wanted. 565 00:25:06,998 --> 00:25:08,666 He was gonna be inclined to listen to me. 566 00:25:08,699 --> 00:25:09,934 And in fact, that's what you testified 567 00:25:09,967 --> 00:25:11,724 as to why you took the gun, right? 568 00:25:11,789 --> 00:25:13,437 It had nothing to do at this point 569 00:25:13,471 --> 00:25:14,672 with wanting to kill yourself. 570 00:25:14,705 --> 00:25:16,907 I took the gun inside the house 571 00:25:16,941 --> 00:25:18,970 so that he would listen to me. 572 00:25:19,019 --> 00:25:21,812 If he wouldn't listen, then I was going to kill myself. 573 00:25:21,846 --> 00:25:23,014 You went to the back of the house 574 00:25:23,047 --> 00:25:25,591 so you could sneak up on him, correct? 575 00:25:26,050 --> 00:25:29,487 I know I had the sensation of screaming. 576 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,765 I don't know if I screamed, "stop" or "no" 577 00:25:33,357 --> 00:25:36,060 or if I just screamed, or if no sound came out. 578 00:25:36,093 --> 00:25:37,395 It was just a sensation. 579 00:25:37,428 --> 00:25:41,365 You never testified last time about any sensation, did you? 580 00:25:41,399 --> 00:25:42,600 Well, you never asked me about anything 581 00:25:42,633 --> 00:25:43,668 that went on in that room last year. 582 00:25:43,701 --> 00:25:45,696 You never testified about on the drive there 583 00:25:45,730 --> 00:25:47,772 feeling like your eyeballs were turned backwards, 584 00:25:47,805 --> 00:25:50,408 the whole world inside your head, did you? 585 00:25:50,441 --> 00:25:51,375 It's the same story, 586 00:25:51,409 --> 00:25:52,776 maybe I'm just explaining it better this year. 587 00:25:52,814 --> 00:25:54,411 Maybe you're embellishing it better. 588 00:25:54,436 --> 00:25:58,282 - Objection, Your Honor. - Sustained. Argumentative. 589 00:26:03,921 --> 00:26:07,091 I walked into the room. 590 00:26:07,892 --> 00:26:09,560 I testified that it was dark 591 00:26:09,593 --> 00:26:12,137 because that's how it appeared to me. 592 00:26:15,132 --> 00:26:17,735 I moved, they moved, and the gun went off. 593 00:26:17,768 --> 00:26:20,062 Just when I tensed, like that. 594 00:26:20,738 --> 00:26:22,506 I don't remember pulling the trigger 595 00:26:22,540 --> 00:26:24,542 once, twice, three, four. 596 00:26:24,575 --> 00:26:27,745 I don't remember pulling the trigger at all. 597 00:26:27,778 --> 00:26:30,548 This was not an automatic. 598 00:26:30,581 --> 00:26:32,516 This was a revolver. 599 00:26:32,550 --> 00:26:34,552 You have to pull the trigger each time 600 00:26:34,585 --> 00:26:36,687 in order to shoot the gun. 601 00:26:36,721 --> 00:26:39,164 So you're saying you just 602 00:26:39,623 --> 00:26:42,913 tensed, like that, once? 603 00:26:42,957 --> 00:26:45,329 Yes, and it just went off. 604 00:26:45,363 --> 00:26:48,065 And then you just tensed like this twice, 605 00:26:48,099 --> 00:26:50,935 and then you just tensed like that three times, 606 00:26:50,968 --> 00:26:53,738 and then you just tensed like that four times? 607 00:27:00,311 --> 00:27:02,913 Uh, it must've been in my right hand. 608 00:27:02,947 --> 00:27:04,582 And when you entered the room, 609 00:27:04,615 --> 00:27:06,358 how were you holding the gun? 610 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,689 I would assume it was at my side. 611 00:27:11,722 --> 00:27:12,857 Okay. 612 00:27:12,890 --> 00:27:14,692 So when Linda moved, 613 00:27:14,725 --> 00:27:17,294 you had to bring that gun up 614 00:27:17,328 --> 00:27:19,530 and point it at her in order to shoot her, right? 615 00:27:19,563 --> 00:27:21,766 This tensing reflex action 616 00:27:21,799 --> 00:27:23,934 didn't make the gun go off in the floor, did it? 617 00:27:23,968 --> 00:27:27,037 And after you tensed once and shot Linda, 618 00:27:27,071 --> 00:27:30,474 you then had to change your aim in order to shoot Dan. 619 00:27:30,508 --> 00:27:32,710 Dan was not in the same position Linda was in 620 00:27:32,743 --> 00:27:34,511 when you shot her, was he? 621 00:27:36,580 --> 00:27:38,115 I didn't see them. It was dark. 622 00:27:38,149 --> 00:27:40,451 Are you denying you had to change your aim 623 00:27:40,484 --> 00:27:41,852 in order to shoot Dan? 624 00:27:41,886 --> 00:27:43,287 'Cause he's on the other side of the bed. 625 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,424 I did not change aim. I did not move. 626 00:27:46,457 --> 00:27:48,484 I did not move the gun. 627 00:27:49,260 --> 00:27:51,429 You never intended to kill yourself 628 00:27:51,462 --> 00:27:53,164 with any of those five shots 629 00:27:53,197 --> 00:27:57,268 pointed at Dan and Linda in the bed, correct? 630 00:28:02,873 --> 00:28:04,061 I thought about it after, 631 00:28:04,085 --> 00:28:06,343 but there weren't any bullets left in the gun. 632 00:28:06,377 --> 00:28:09,346 Well, you had testified you were going to confront him 633 00:28:09,380 --> 00:28:11,849 and if it didn't work, you were going to kill yourself. 634 00:28:11,882 --> 00:28:14,351 Now, obviously if they're rolling away from you 635 00:28:14,385 --> 00:28:16,253 yelling, "Call the police," 636 00:28:16,287 --> 00:28:18,472 the confrontation isn't working. 637 00:28:19,190 --> 00:28:22,193 But that gun never made it up to your head, did it? 638 00:28:22,226 --> 00:28:25,930 That gun only went to their bodies, didn't it? 639 00:28:28,365 --> 00:28:29,675 After you shot them, 640 00:28:29,709 --> 00:28:32,256 you didn't immediately leave the room, did you? 641 00:28:32,288 --> 00:28:33,350 Yes, I did. 642 00:28:33,381 --> 00:28:35,506 That's not the immediate thing you did 643 00:28:35,539 --> 00:28:36,974 after shooting them, was it? 644 00:28:42,313 --> 00:28:44,873 - I went to get the phone. - Okay. 645 00:28:45,716 --> 00:28:48,146 You had to walk all around the bed 646 00:28:48,179 --> 00:28:49,887 where Dan is lying on the floor. 647 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,122 You had to walk through this area 648 00:28:52,156 --> 00:28:56,861 to grab the phone and pull it out of the wall, 649 00:28:56,894 --> 00:28:58,345 didn't you? 650 00:29:02,132 --> 00:29:03,667 You indicated this morning 651 00:29:03,701 --> 00:29:07,521 that you'd not been able to tell anyone how sorry you were. 652 00:29:07,905 --> 00:29:10,074 Isn't it true that since you've been in jail, 653 00:29:10,107 --> 00:29:12,276 you've written hundreds of letters? 654 00:29:13,244 --> 00:29:14,424 Maybe over the whole time. 655 00:29:14,471 --> 00:29:18,249 Many letters every day to friends, family, 656 00:29:18,282 --> 00:29:20,484 newspaper reporters, celebrities. 657 00:29:20,518 --> 00:29:22,253 There wasn't anything preventing you 658 00:29:22,286 --> 00:29:23,921 from talking about your feelings 659 00:29:23,954 --> 00:29:25,022 in any of these letters, was there? 660 00:29:25,055 --> 00:29:29,059 I've testified I wasn't free to express any feelings 661 00:29:29,093 --> 00:29:32,229 because I knew the letters were copied going in and going out. 662 00:29:32,263 --> 00:29:34,265 You wrote a letter to Amy Wallace 663 00:29:34,298 --> 00:29:37,434 at the "Los Angeles Times" from jail, correct? 664 00:29:37,468 --> 00:29:40,237 - Correct. - "You have the general idea, 665 00:29:40,271 --> 00:29:42,439 "but the chronology and facts are all twisted. 666 00:29:42,473 --> 00:29:47,077 I'll call, we'll talk. Only I know the whole truth." 667 00:29:47,111 --> 00:29:49,446 I was just correcting her article. 668 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,516 I wouldn't have expressed the feelings I'm talking about 669 00:29:52,550 --> 00:29:53,858 with a newspaper reporter. 670 00:29:53,911 --> 00:29:57,221 You made a specific correction with Amy Wallace. 671 00:29:57,254 --> 00:29:59,189 You indicated Jennifer had testified 672 00:29:59,223 --> 00:30:00,858 that you said Dan had said, 673 00:30:00,891 --> 00:30:04,528 "Okay, okay, you shot me, I'm dead." 674 00:30:04,562 --> 00:30:07,932 You told Amy Wallace no, that's not right. 675 00:30:07,965 --> 00:30:11,936 He said, "Okay, you got me. I'm dead." 676 00:30:11,969 --> 00:30:12,981 - Right? - Right. 677 00:30:13,043 --> 00:30:15,039 Didn't you just testify earlier today 678 00:30:15,072 --> 00:30:17,228 that you don't remember him saying anything? 679 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:18,676 What I testified to today 680 00:30:18,709 --> 00:30:22,212 is that I don't really know what happened in that room. 681 00:30:22,246 --> 00:30:23,547 It was... it was flashes of things... 682 00:30:23,581 --> 00:30:25,482 Excuse me. You answered the question. 683 00:30:25,516 --> 00:30:26,690 Let me just ask you this. 684 00:30:26,739 --> 00:30:29,519 If you don't remember what happened in that room, 685 00:30:30,054 --> 00:30:32,323 how could you correct the "Los Angeles Times" 686 00:30:32,356 --> 00:30:34,158 about what happened in that room? 687 00:30:39,964 --> 00:30:43,033 You wrote another letter to a friend 688 00:30:43,434 --> 00:30:48,072 where you said, "Whatever the future holds, 689 00:30:48,105 --> 00:30:50,274 "I'll be okay. 690 00:30:50,307 --> 00:30:53,460 "I've chosen the path of peace, 691 00:30:54,612 --> 00:30:56,847 and I finally have it." 692 00:31:03,220 --> 00:31:06,139 I don't remember saying that, but... 693 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,297 yes, it's been more peaceful for me... 694 00:31:14,832 --> 00:31:16,191 Being in jail. 695 00:31:17,542 --> 00:31:19,103 No further questions. 696 00:31:24,742 --> 00:31:27,978 Anyone can see that she doesn't know who she is. 697 00:31:29,079 --> 00:31:32,583 How much she wants to please people. 698 00:31:34,585 --> 00:31:37,087 And how hungry she is 699 00:31:38,389 --> 00:31:39,464 for love. 700 00:31:40,524 --> 00:31:42,359 If those tapes of Betty and her kids 701 00:31:42,393 --> 00:31:45,062 don't prove she went nuts, then what does? 702 00:31:45,095 --> 00:31:47,698 She's sick. She needs help. 703 00:31:50,267 --> 00:31:54,813 But you know, I don't know if she can get well. 704 00:31:55,886 --> 00:31:57,454 Not now. 705 00:31:59,677 --> 00:32:02,487 I think she just needs to get old. 706 00:32:06,785 --> 00:32:09,636 It's okay to have an emotional response 707 00:32:09,687 --> 00:32:11,121 to this case. 708 00:32:12,189 --> 00:32:14,458 You may find you disagree with each other, 709 00:32:14,491 --> 00:32:17,661 maybe passionately, about your feelings. 710 00:32:17,695 --> 00:32:19,563 I think you should acknowledge those feelings. 711 00:32:19,596 --> 00:32:22,099 Get them out and then when you're done feeling, 712 00:32:22,132 --> 00:32:24,009 it's time to start thinking 713 00:32:24,968 --> 00:32:27,271 because that is why you are here. 714 00:32:27,304 --> 00:32:30,098 If you think of the people you live with, 715 00:32:31,041 --> 00:32:33,110 they see everything about you. 716 00:32:33,143 --> 00:32:35,813 Your worst and your best. 717 00:32:35,846 --> 00:32:39,149 The habits that you wouldn't dare show the public. 718 00:32:39,483 --> 00:32:40,918 You give them who you are. 719 00:32:40,951 --> 00:32:45,055 I'll concede, Dan Broderick was wrong in leaving his wife. 720 00:32:46,853 --> 00:32:48,692 No men should ever leave their wives. 721 00:32:48,726 --> 00:32:50,928 All marriages should be blissfully happy. 722 00:32:50,961 --> 00:32:52,579 I'm wearing a suit. 723 00:32:52,996 --> 00:32:55,699 For you, there's no telling how I dress at home. 724 00:32:55,733 --> 00:32:59,703 What I do, what I'm like when I feel good or bad. 725 00:33:02,139 --> 00:33:03,159 But she knows. 726 00:33:03,210 --> 00:33:04,274 I'll concede, 727 00:33:04,716 --> 00:33:07,044 Dan Broderick should've given Elisabeth Broderick more money. 728 00:33:07,077 --> 00:33:09,813 He should've given her everything she demanded. 729 00:33:09,847 --> 00:33:12,516 But that assumes it would've mattered. 730 00:33:12,549 --> 00:33:14,818 Would another closet full of clothes 731 00:33:14,852 --> 00:33:17,821 with the tags still hanging on them have made a difference? 732 00:33:19,823 --> 00:33:23,827 I'll concede, Dan Broderick should've given her the kids 733 00:33:23,861 --> 00:33:25,562 every time she asked for them 734 00:33:25,596 --> 00:33:27,297 no matter what she was doing to them, 735 00:33:27,331 --> 00:33:28,699 no matter that she had 736 00:33:28,732 --> 00:33:30,801 handed them over to him in the first place. 737 00:33:30,834 --> 00:33:31,925 I'll concede, 738 00:33:31,950 --> 00:33:34,438 Linda Kolkena should never have gotten involved 739 00:33:34,505 --> 00:33:36,173 with Dan Broderick. 740 00:33:36,206 --> 00:33:38,114 Should never have loved him, married him. 741 00:33:38,156 --> 00:33:41,311 Should never have responded to Elisabeth Broderick's venom. 742 00:33:41,345 --> 00:33:42,579 She should've been perfect. 743 00:33:42,613 --> 00:33:45,516 And she wasn't. And neither was Dan. 744 00:33:45,549 --> 00:33:48,395 But the verdict forms you'll be filling out do not read, 745 00:33:48,428 --> 00:33:51,989 "We the jury find Dan and Linda Broderick were perfect people." 746 00:33:52,022 --> 00:33:53,682 And that's what hurts. 747 00:33:54,925 --> 00:33:58,228 I trust that you are with me. 748 00:33:58,728 --> 00:34:01,106 I'm giving you who I am. 749 00:34:01,965 --> 00:34:06,336 When you break that trust, that should bother you. 750 00:34:06,370 --> 00:34:08,071 That should hurt. 751 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:13,397 Your betrayal of someone who was there. 752 00:34:17,247 --> 00:34:18,615 But then you find 753 00:34:18,649 --> 00:34:20,917 that is probably the history of the world. 754 00:34:22,085 --> 00:34:23,787 Just the way people look at things. 755 00:34:23,821 --> 00:34:27,841 "Whatever the future holds, I'll be okay. 756 00:34:28,592 --> 00:34:31,845 I have chosen the path of peace." 757 00:34:37,601 --> 00:34:39,803 Killing two people, 758 00:34:40,437 --> 00:34:43,356 including the father of her children, 759 00:34:44,141 --> 00:34:46,877 gave Elisabeth Broderick peace. 760 00:34:53,250 --> 00:34:54,785 Call the police! 761 00:34:54,818 --> 00:34:57,988 When you commit a crime that is inherently dangerous, 762 00:34:58,021 --> 00:35:01,525 when you bring a loaded gun into a house, 763 00:35:01,558 --> 00:35:04,127 there is a danger that someone will get hurt, 764 00:35:04,161 --> 00:35:05,596 someone will get killed. 765 00:35:05,629 --> 00:35:07,731 But if you say at that point in time, 766 00:35:07,764 --> 00:35:11,068 "I believe there was a reasonable doubt 767 00:35:11,101 --> 00:35:13,011 as to intent to kill," 768 00:35:14,438 --> 00:35:16,940 that is involuntary manslaughter. 769 00:35:18,375 --> 00:35:21,727 If you say I believe there was the intent to kill, 770 00:35:21,761 --> 00:35:24,915 but the person was acting on emotion, 771 00:35:24,948 --> 00:35:27,284 acting on what they had been through? 772 00:35:27,317 --> 00:35:29,086 Ladies and gentlemen, 773 00:35:29,119 --> 00:35:33,490 that is voluntary manslaughter. 774 00:35:33,523 --> 00:35:36,743 The judge said this is not a death penalty case. 775 00:35:37,861 --> 00:35:39,095 That is not true. 776 00:35:39,129 --> 00:35:42,199 Elisabeth Broderick imposed the death penalty 777 00:35:42,232 --> 00:35:43,610 on Dan and Linda. 778 00:35:43,643 --> 00:35:46,103 They didn't get to present their case in front of a jury 779 00:35:46,136 --> 00:35:47,771 before she executed them. 780 00:35:49,206 --> 00:35:52,092 She made that decision on her own. 781 00:35:52,809 --> 00:35:55,553 Being hurt doesn't give you the right to do that. 782 00:35:56,513 --> 00:36:00,817 Justice calls that first-degree murder. 783 00:36:10,093 --> 00:36:13,263 Hmm, hmm. 784 00:36:13,297 --> 00:36:15,115 Don't cheat. 785 00:36:15,699 --> 00:36:18,735 - I didn't. - You were about to. 786 00:36:19,503 --> 00:36:20,704 Let's see. 787 00:36:36,853 --> 00:36:39,089 We, the jury in the above entitled cause, 788 00:36:39,122 --> 00:36:42,292 find the defendant, Elisabeth Anne Broderick, 789 00:36:42,326 --> 00:36:44,828 guilty of the crime of murder, 790 00:36:44,861 --> 00:36:48,398 felony as charged in count one of the information. 791 00:36:48,432 --> 00:36:51,668 And set the degree thereof as murder in the second degree, 792 00:36:51,702 --> 00:36:54,037 victim Daniel Broderick. 793 00:36:54,071 --> 00:36:56,340 We, the jury in the above entitled cause, 794 00:36:56,373 --> 00:36:58,542 by the defendant, Elisabeth Anne Broderick, 795 00:36:58,575 --> 00:37:00,218 guilty of the crime of murder, 796 00:37:00,978 --> 00:37:04,681 a felony as charged in count two of the information 797 00:37:04,715 --> 00:37:08,051 and set the degree of thereof as murder in the second degree, 798 00:37:08,835 --> 00:37:10,837 victim Linda Broderick. 799 00:37:12,547 --> 00:37:13,824 Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, 800 00:37:13,857 --> 00:37:16,360 are these your verdicts as I read them? 801 00:37:18,562 --> 00:37:19,804 Yes. 802 00:37:21,097 --> 00:37:23,033 It was clear right from the beginning 803 00:37:23,066 --> 00:37:24,901 that another mistrial was possible. 804 00:37:24,935 --> 00:37:26,813 One juror right off said that 805 00:37:26,846 --> 00:37:28,271 she would never vote for first degree. 806 00:37:28,305 --> 00:37:31,074 She would hang the jury before she ever did that. 807 00:37:31,108 --> 00:37:34,478 For four days, they shouted their heads off at me, 808 00:37:34,511 --> 00:37:37,381 but I just didn't believe that Betty went in with malice. 809 00:37:37,414 --> 00:37:39,182 He flipped her out. 810 00:37:39,216 --> 00:37:41,885 He killed her first... her spirit. 811 00:37:41,918 --> 00:37:43,887 And that's just how it appeared to me. 812 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:45,889 People were yelling, crying. 813 00:37:45,922 --> 00:37:48,225 Until lunch today even, there were still holdouts. 814 00:37:48,258 --> 00:37:49,693 So how did you reach a decision? 815 00:37:49,726 --> 00:37:52,295 Uh, we, um, 816 00:37:52,329 --> 00:37:55,065 listened to that one phone call again. 817 00:37:55,098 --> 00:37:57,567 Betty with her son, who was crying. 818 00:37:57,601 --> 00:38:00,070 We all held hands and, uh... 819 00:38:01,938 --> 00:38:03,473 we just got there. 820 00:38:03,507 --> 00:38:06,610 I mean, I've been around the corner once or twice. 821 00:38:06,643 --> 00:38:09,246 I know what pain feels like. 822 00:38:09,279 --> 00:38:11,415 As a woman, you have to bear a lot of it 823 00:38:11,448 --> 00:38:13,650 or you are just lost from the beginning. 824 00:38:13,683 --> 00:38:16,887 What I did for Betty was the right thing for Betty. 825 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:18,055 Second degree. 826 00:38:18,088 --> 00:38:20,390 She'll be out in four or five years, don't you think? 827 00:38:20,424 --> 00:38:24,261 Maximum sentence Betty could get is 32 to life. 828 00:38:26,196 --> 00:38:27,664 No. 829 00:38:28,465 --> 00:38:31,601 No, I... I can't... I can't believe it. 830 00:38:31,635 --> 00:38:33,270 No, if I thought she was... if I... 831 00:38:33,303 --> 00:38:36,106 if she was gonna get anything more, I would've hung in. 832 00:38:36,139 --> 00:38:38,591 And Judge Spiller won't do that. 833 00:38:38,909 --> 00:38:40,802 No, he's kind. 834 00:38:41,278 --> 00:38:43,180 He'll... I'm sure he'll be lenient. 835 00:38:43,213 --> 00:38:45,315 I thought he was just wonderful. 836 00:38:47,384 --> 00:38:51,104 The physical evidence, which is uncontradicted, 837 00:38:51,555 --> 00:38:55,066 shows she intentionally aimed at both people. 838 00:38:56,192 --> 00:38:58,962 It's not just the pulling of the phone out of the wall 839 00:38:58,995 --> 00:39:02,933 but the carrying of it into the hallway 840 00:39:02,966 --> 00:39:05,635 that shows a high degree of callousness. 841 00:39:05,669 --> 00:39:07,637 Therefore, the crime of second-degree murder 842 00:39:07,671 --> 00:39:12,109 in count two, I'll select a term of 15 years to life, 843 00:39:12,142 --> 00:39:15,779 consecutive to that imposed in count one. 844 00:39:56,586 --> 00:39:59,089 He was smart and fun and ambitious, 845 00:39:59,122 --> 00:40:01,224 and so was I. 846 00:40:01,258 --> 00:40:04,427 I don't know what we really thought of each other. 847 00:40:05,462 --> 00:40:07,164 All I know is 848 00:40:07,197 --> 00:40:09,432 we were exactly what we thought the other one 849 00:40:09,466 --> 00:40:11,902 was supposed to be looking for. 850 00:40:13,537 --> 00:40:15,146 Back then? 851 00:40:18,942 --> 00:40:20,902 I remember dancing. 852 00:40:21,578 --> 00:40:23,363 Our songs. 853 00:40:24,481 --> 00:40:29,160 We had songs we would dance to over and over. 854 00:40:31,221 --> 00:40:33,356 Great makeout music. 855 00:40:37,294 --> 00:40:42,766 ? You ask how much I need you ? 856 00:40:42,799 --> 00:40:48,305 ? Must I explain? ? 857 00:40:48,338 --> 00:40:54,110 ? I need you, oh, my darling ? 858 00:40:54,144 --> 00:41:00,050 ? Like roses need rain ? 859 00:41:00,083 --> 00:41:04,821 ? You ask how long I'll love you ? 860 00:41:08,325 --> 00:41:09,617 Hello? 861 00:41:10,627 --> 00:41:12,080 I have bad news. 862 00:41:12,113 --> 00:41:14,097 Oh, well, that's not the kind I like. 863 00:41:15,298 --> 00:41:18,268 Coral Reef house is sold. I'm sorry. 864 00:41:18,301 --> 00:41:19,803 Dan got a court order 865 00:41:19,836 --> 00:41:21,504 and went in front of a judge this morning. 866 00:41:21,538 --> 00:41:23,139 I understand. 867 00:41:24,708 --> 00:41:26,776 Hey, boys! Can you come set the table? 868 00:41:26,810 --> 00:41:29,479 As soon as I mash the potatoes, we'll be ready to eat. 869 00:41:32,816 --> 00:41:35,913 This is calendar number three, Broderick v. Broderick. 870 00:41:35,946 --> 00:41:38,521 Mr. Broderick and his attorney, Douglas Layton, 871 00:41:38,555 --> 00:41:41,424 are present, as is Elisabeth Broderick 872 00:41:41,458 --> 00:41:43,593 and her attorney, Robert Munro. 873 00:41:48,965 --> 00:41:51,701 Reception, how can I help you? 874 00:41:51,735 --> 00:41:53,703 Please hold. 875 00:41:55,672 --> 00:41:57,107 Can I help you? 876 00:41:57,140 --> 00:41:58,666 I'm Betty. 877 00:42:00,242 --> 00:42:02,003 Mrs. Broderick. 878 00:42:08,585 --> 00:42:13,323 Wait, wait, wait. Come back, come back. 879 00:42:13,356 --> 00:42:14,824 We're gonna go home. 880 00:42:18,128 --> 00:42:19,817 Are you sleeping with her? 881 00:42:23,932 --> 00:42:25,834 Are you? 882 00:42:31,041 --> 00:42:32,742 I'm in love with her. 883 00:42:37,914 --> 00:42:41,718 ? Must I explain ? 884 00:42:43,386 --> 00:42:49,092 ? I need you, oh, my darling ? 885 00:42:49,125 --> 00:42:53,530 ? Like roses need rain ? 886 00:42:54,898 --> 00:43:00,503 ? You ask how long I'll love you ? 887 00:43:00,537 --> 00:43:06,242 ? I'll tell you true ? 888 00:43:08,545 --> 00:43:13,383 ? Until the twelfth of never ? 889 00:43:14,751 --> 00:43:18,254 ? I'll still be ? 890 00:43:18,288 --> 00:43:19,823 ? Loving you ? 891 00:43:21,865 --> 00:43:23,733 Someone else needs this phone. 892 00:43:36,048 --> 00:43:39,634 _ 66397

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