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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:05,680 I let the shit with the girls eat me up daily. 2 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:10,770 They didn't deserve what the hell they got. 3 00:01:12,980 --> 00:01:14,480 The girls has... 4 00:01:14,470 --> 00:01:17,720 pretty much been forgotten in this town. 5 00:01:19,430 --> 00:01:24,140 You don't really ever hear anybody speak of 'em. 6 00:01:24,140 --> 00:01:27,720 It's like... they never existed. 7 00:01:27,730 --> 00:01:30,570 Like they never mattered. 8 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,020 Killer could be sitting in front of our face 9 00:01:33,020 --> 00:01:36,020 all day, every day. 10 00:01:36,020 --> 00:01:37,470 'Cause... 11 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,810 ...they can kill in this town and get away with it. 12 00:01:57,390 --> 00:02:00,810 This is the Devil's playground... 13 00:02:00,810 --> 00:02:03,310 and they runnin' right along him. 14 00:02:04,980 --> 00:02:09,030 They do what they want when they want, how they want, 15 00:02:09,020 --> 00:02:11,470 and nobody tries... 16 00:02:11,470 --> 00:02:13,640 to stop 'em. 17 00:02:58,850 --> 00:03:02,890 Well, I came out here that morning to go fishing. 18 00:03:15,180 --> 00:03:19,220 And I looked down, and I seen something in the water. 19 00:03:19,220 --> 00:03:21,390 It looked like a mannequin. 20 00:03:24,730 --> 00:03:27,480 Then I seen the flies alighting on it. 21 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,560 And I said, "Flies wouldn't be alighting on a mannequin." 22 00:03:35,430 --> 00:03:38,600 Then I realized it had to be a body. 23 00:03:42,220 --> 00:03:44,680 Loretta Chaisson's body was found on May 20 24 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:46,850 of 2005. 25 00:03:49,350 --> 00:03:52,180 When deputies first arrived at the scene, the body was 26 00:03:52,180 --> 00:03:54,390 more toward the north side of the bridge, 27 00:03:54,390 --> 00:03:56,100 closer to where the pylons were. 28 00:03:57,430 --> 00:03:59,430 'Cause the body was too far 29 00:03:59,430 --> 00:04:01,180 from the bank to be retrieved, 30 00:04:01,180 --> 00:04:03,720 they brought the body over underneath the bridge 31 00:04:03,730 --> 00:04:05,440 to the south side. 32 00:04:10,850 --> 00:04:14,970 The reaction to the discovery of the body was 33 00:04:14,980 --> 00:04:16,320 very shocking to the community. 34 00:04:16,310 --> 00:04:18,640 It's not something you find every day. 35 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:22,270 You have homicides-- people are found dead-- 36 00:04:22,270 --> 00:04:25,180 but a body in a canal 37 00:04:25,180 --> 00:04:26,640 found dumped, 38 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,310 it's a very tragic, horrible situation, 39 00:04:29,310 --> 00:04:31,890 and people were upset. 40 00:04:31,890 --> 00:04:33,970 They want... they want answers. 41 00:04:33,980 --> 00:04:37,940 But our-our main concern, obviously, is to the victim... 42 00:04:38,810 --> 00:04:42,390 ...'cause they need justice. 43 00:04:50,430 --> 00:04:54,270 Sheriff Ricky Edwards comes knocking on my door, 44 00:04:54,270 --> 00:04:57,680 saying that they found my daughter under the bridge. 45 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,810 That was the worst feeling that I ever had. 46 00:05:12,180 --> 00:05:14,350 Yeah, it's been 13 years 47 00:05:14,350 --> 00:05:17,680 since they found my daughter's body, 48 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,640 and... 49 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,680 I miss her so much, you know. 50 00:05:24,180 --> 00:05:26,100 And it still hurts. 51 00:05:36,930 --> 00:05:38,560 We couldn't... 52 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:42,100 start a funeral until after they did the autopsy. 53 00:05:42,100 --> 00:05:44,390 It was a closed casket. 54 00:05:47,020 --> 00:05:49,850 She had been in there, in the water for a few days, 55 00:05:49,850 --> 00:05:52,100 and the body had started decomposing. 56 00:05:52,100 --> 00:05:54,140 None of us wanted to see her like that. 57 00:05:55,220 --> 00:05:57,640 Loretta was married. 58 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,770 Had two kids. 59 00:05:59,770 --> 00:06:02,560 She was always about her kids. 60 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,600 Always had a smile 61 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,520 on her face and would never hurt nobody. 62 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,720 She'd always try to help somebody before she'd hurt you. 63 00:06:12,730 --> 00:06:14,730 Between me, Loretta and Nick, 64 00:06:14,730 --> 00:06:16,480 me and her were the first two, 65 00:06:16,470 --> 00:06:18,770 and my mom's first two kids, so... 66 00:06:18,770 --> 00:06:20,470 we was close. 67 00:06:20,470 --> 00:06:22,520 I just miss her. 68 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:27,270 She was living with us, 69 00:06:27,270 --> 00:06:29,930 'because... there were some days 70 00:06:29,930 --> 00:06:32,100 she would be sober, 71 00:06:32,100 --> 00:06:35,100 and some days she'll do her little binges. 72 00:06:35,100 --> 00:06:37,850 Her and her husband were split up. 73 00:06:39,100 --> 00:06:41,350 She felt safe with us. 74 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:44,680 Safeness at my house, 75 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,970 away from everything she was doing out here. 76 00:06:47,980 --> 00:06:51,400 So whatever she did out here, she didn't bring to my house, 77 00:06:51,390 --> 00:06:54,350 because she was there spending time with her kids. 78 00:06:54,350 --> 00:06:57,270 And when she left there, she did... whatever she did. 79 00:06:57,270 --> 00:06:59,270 She might've did her drugs 80 00:06:59,270 --> 00:07:00,720 and this and that, 81 00:07:00,730 --> 00:07:04,480 but everybody got some kind of... 82 00:07:04,470 --> 00:07:06,470 weakness, you know? 83 00:07:06,470 --> 00:07:09,890 And that was hers. 84 00:07:09,890 --> 00:07:12,470 Couple of days before she went missing, 85 00:07:12,470 --> 00:07:16,350 Loretta asked me to walk to the bar with her. 86 00:07:16,350 --> 00:07:18,970 She looked at the bar. 87 00:07:18,980 --> 00:07:21,570 She-- it looked like she noticed something. 88 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,520 And she looked back at me and she gave me her purse. 89 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:26,430 She don't ever give me her purse. 90 00:07:26,430 --> 00:07:29,020 She gave me her purse and told me to put her purse 91 00:07:29,020 --> 00:07:30,890 at the top of my mom's closet, 92 00:07:30,890 --> 00:07:32,810 just in case if anything happens. 93 00:07:32,810 --> 00:07:34,810 And that's the last time I seen her. 94 00:07:34,810 --> 00:07:37,600 'Cause she turned me around and made me go home. 95 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,180 One day Loretta 96 00:07:40,180 --> 00:07:44,470 came to the door, and she said, "Roxanne, 97 00:07:44,470 --> 00:07:46,020 I'm tired of living this life. 98 00:07:46,020 --> 00:07:47,770 I want to raise my children. 99 00:07:47,770 --> 00:07:49,850 I'm so tired of this life." 100 00:07:49,850 --> 00:07:54,020 She said, "I'm gonna leave, and I'm not coming back." 101 00:07:56,730 --> 00:07:59,610 Three days later, she was dead. 102 00:08:02,350 --> 00:08:04,100 Before they found 103 00:08:04,100 --> 00:08:05,890 Loretta's body in the canal, 104 00:08:05,890 --> 00:08:08,310 I was walking on the main highway, 105 00:08:08,310 --> 00:08:11,560 and I've seen Loretta at 66. 106 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,890 We sat there and we talked, 107 00:08:13,890 --> 00:08:16,680 and this guy, Frankie Richard, 108 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,180 pulls up in a big, tan car. 109 00:08:19,180 --> 00:08:21,350 She gets in the car with him. 110 00:08:21,350 --> 00:08:23,890 And that was the last time I ever seen her. 111 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,720 I didn't... I didn't know Frankie, 112 00:08:27,730 --> 00:08:30,280 but I heard rumors from my uncles 113 00:08:30,270 --> 00:08:31,890 that he used to supply drugs, 114 00:08:31,890 --> 00:08:33,970 used to go pick up a lot of drugs. 115 00:08:33,980 --> 00:08:37,440 The only thing I'd ever knew was his name, 116 00:08:37,430 --> 00:08:40,390 until all this really started happening. 117 00:08:40,390 --> 00:08:42,180 Then I started hearing 118 00:08:42,180 --> 00:08:45,350 about how he was a pimp in Lafayette 119 00:08:45,350 --> 00:08:48,020 and he liked telling stories about what he did, 120 00:08:48,020 --> 00:08:51,680 and, you know, as far as when it came to violence. 121 00:08:51,680 --> 00:08:53,890 But, you know, Loretta never talked bad about Frankie. 122 00:08:53,890 --> 00:08:56,970 When she got in the car with him, she got in the car 123 00:08:56,980 --> 00:08:58,690 happy with Frankie. 124 00:09:00,220 --> 00:09:03,600 Frankie Richard? Yeah, I heard he had a lot to do with it, 125 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:07,430 but... that was just hearsay, you know. 126 00:09:10,930 --> 00:09:13,270 Frankie Richard was somebody that was known 127 00:09:13,270 --> 00:09:16,850 to associate with, known prostitutes in the area, 128 00:09:16,850 --> 00:09:19,350 was known to be involved in the drug world 129 00:09:19,350 --> 00:09:21,100 in the Jennings area, 130 00:09:21,100 --> 00:09:23,720 and also had a violent past. 131 00:09:23,730 --> 00:09:27,150 The investigation into Loretta Chaisson's death 132 00:09:27,140 --> 00:09:31,270 was led by then-Sheriff Ricky Edwards. 133 00:09:31,270 --> 00:09:33,430 The investigators were able to discover a lot of information 134 00:09:33,430 --> 00:09:35,520 about Loretta Chaisson's whereabouts 135 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,270 prior to the time she was found. 136 00:09:38,270 --> 00:09:40,930 But unfortunately, the... the critical time of... 137 00:09:40,930 --> 00:09:43,020 exactly when this incident happened 138 00:09:43,020 --> 00:09:47,470 and how she got to the canal were still questions. 139 00:09:47,470 --> 00:09:48,970 There have been no arrests made 140 00:09:48,980 --> 00:09:50,780 in the death of Loretta Chaisson. 141 00:09:50,770 --> 00:09:53,060 It's an open investigation. 142 00:09:59,980 --> 00:10:01,980 Day after the story breaks 143 00:10:01,980 --> 00:10:04,530 in the Jennings Daily News that a body's been found, 144 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:05,890 the Jennings Daily News 145 00:10:05,890 --> 00:10:07,270 and the Jeff Davis Parish Sheriff's Office 146 00:10:07,270 --> 00:10:08,470 start getting bombarded with phone calls, 147 00:10:08,470 --> 00:10:10,140 and it's people asking... 148 00:10:10,140 --> 00:10:12,560 if there's a serial killer on the loose. 149 00:10:21,770 --> 00:10:24,390 Now, only one body's been found, 150 00:10:24,390 --> 00:10:27,060 and it-it's being treated as a homicide, 151 00:10:27,060 --> 00:10:29,520 but there's not even a cause of death that's been announced 152 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:30,600 or anything like that. 153 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:32,680 It's a very weird situation 154 00:10:32,680 --> 00:10:35,220 to suddenly be getting all these phone calls, 155 00:10:35,220 --> 00:10:36,720 and the sheriff, at this point, 156 00:10:36,730 --> 00:10:38,530 has to issue a statement, saying: 157 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:42,520 We don't have any information on anything like that. 158 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:48,350 It's never really known where that rumor came from. 159 00:11:27,730 --> 00:11:29,360 There's one. 160 00:11:29,350 --> 00:11:33,560 Loretta's body was found on May 20, 2005. 161 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:37,430 June 17... 162 00:11:37,430 --> 00:11:39,680 a group of froggers goes out. 163 00:11:42,100 --> 00:11:43,390 To the right. 164 00:11:43,390 --> 00:11:45,220 Got him. 165 00:11:51,350 --> 00:11:53,890 It's nighttime. 166 00:11:55,100 --> 00:11:58,100 They are out there trying to catch frogs. 167 00:12:00,140 --> 00:12:02,140 Then suddenly... 168 00:12:02,140 --> 00:12:05,520 they start to smell something. 169 00:12:10,470 --> 00:12:12,930 Find another body 170 00:12:12,930 --> 00:12:17,390 six miles away from where Loretta was found. 171 00:12:37,980 --> 00:12:41,110 A man can lose an awful lot of friends in a rainstorm. 172 00:12:43,810 --> 00:12:45,890 God. 173 00:12:50,810 --> 00:12:53,600 The police came here. 174 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:55,810 Come through that door right... through that door right there, 175 00:12:55,810 --> 00:12:58,140 knocking on the door, and he said, "Ms. Daniels, 176 00:12:58,140 --> 00:13:00,520 some frog... some froggers found a body." 177 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,640 So, he says, he says, "That's Jeff... that's Jeff... 178 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:05,810 that's Jeff Daniels' daughter." 179 00:13:06,980 --> 00:13:08,400 And I say, "What?" 180 00:13:08,390 --> 00:13:09,890 He told me. He said, 181 00:13:09,890 --> 00:13:12,600 "They were frog... frog fishing, 182 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:14,520 and they found a body." 183 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,680 They said, "That's Jeff Daniels' daughter." 184 00:13:18,390 --> 00:13:20,390 And I said, 185 00:13:20,390 --> 00:13:22,430 "Lord Jesus." 186 00:13:24,310 --> 00:13:27,140 He said, "The body must have been in there 187 00:13:27,140 --> 00:13:28,680 three or four days." 188 00:13:30,680 --> 00:13:33,020 The coroner came over here saying 189 00:13:33,020 --> 00:13:35,350 that we couldn't see the body 190 00:13:35,350 --> 00:13:38,810 'cause the body was too decomposed. 191 00:13:38,810 --> 00:13:40,720 She was cut in the throat, 192 00:13:40,730 --> 00:13:43,730 and her hand was all bruised right there. 193 00:13:43,730 --> 00:13:45,190 And her face. 194 00:13:45,180 --> 00:13:47,680 And her face... They say, it ain't essentially her face. 195 00:13:47,680 --> 00:13:50,270 Well, not being able to recognize her. 196 00:13:50,270 --> 00:13:52,430 Wouldn't, um, wouldn't be able to recognize her. 197 00:13:52,430 --> 00:13:54,810 Took three months before 198 00:13:54,810 --> 00:13:58,720 they find out it was Ernestine Patterson. 199 00:14:00,770 --> 00:14:04,560 You know... it-it's been hard. 200 00:14:04,560 --> 00:14:07,560 This photo is photo from the... 201 00:14:07,560 --> 00:14:09,720 the sheriff's office. 202 00:14:09,730 --> 00:14:11,900 It's the only photo I have of Ernestine. 203 00:14:11,890 --> 00:14:13,390 And I got... 204 00:14:13,390 --> 00:14:15,930 It's the only thing I have of her... 205 00:14:15,930 --> 00:14:18,220 of a... picture. 206 00:14:19,810 --> 00:14:22,180 I don't have nothing else but this. 207 00:14:34,180 --> 00:14:35,810 When the second body is found, 208 00:14:35,810 --> 00:14:39,350 it's in an advanced state of decomposition. 209 00:14:39,350 --> 00:14:40,720 It takes about two months 210 00:14:40,730 --> 00:14:42,190 before they can identify this body, 211 00:14:42,180 --> 00:14:43,600 and they've got to use 212 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:45,180 bone samples to do it, 213 00:14:45,180 --> 00:14:47,720 before they announce that the second body is 214 00:14:47,730 --> 00:14:50,780 Ernestine Marie Daniels Patterson. 215 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:54,680 When the investigation began 216 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:57,060 with Ernestine, the second female, 217 00:14:57,060 --> 00:14:59,850 there was some concern in law enforcement, 218 00:14:59,850 --> 00:15:01,850 because you had two female bodies 219 00:15:01,850 --> 00:15:04,100 that were basically found dumped, 220 00:15:04,100 --> 00:15:06,430 you know, in-in a waterway, 221 00:15:06,430 --> 00:15:08,100 which is unusual. 222 00:15:08,100 --> 00:15:11,270 There's always a thought. I mean, 223 00:15:11,270 --> 00:15:13,430 it-it'd be a legitimate thought 224 00:15:13,430 --> 00:15:15,520 that it could be a serial killer. 225 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,470 But the injuries 226 00:15:18,470 --> 00:15:20,810 to the bodies were different. 227 00:15:20,810 --> 00:15:24,270 In the case with Loretta Chaisson, there is not 228 00:15:24,270 --> 00:15:26,270 obvious type injuries that you would sometimes find 229 00:15:26,270 --> 00:15:29,270 that lead you to determine that a homicide occurred. 230 00:15:32,730 --> 00:15:35,690 With Ernestine Daniels-- she had sustained 231 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,390 some incised wounds. 232 00:15:38,390 --> 00:15:42,270 The type of injuries that you'd find in some homicides. 233 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:46,180 One day, 234 00:15:46,180 --> 00:15:47,810 Sheriff Ricky Edwards came over here wanting... 235 00:15:47,810 --> 00:15:49,560 wanting me to go up there and talk. 236 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,640 I'm not going up there and talk... talk to nobody 237 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,470 'cause they ain't found out who murdered her. 238 00:15:57,810 --> 00:16:00,680 They ain't found out nothing. 239 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:02,770 I feel like they don't care. 240 00:16:04,850 --> 00:16:06,850 They don't care. 241 00:16:10,180 --> 00:16:12,600 I don't have no closure, no peace. 242 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,520 I can't rest at night. 243 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:17,680 I don't have no closure, no peace. 244 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:50,600 Jennings is 245 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,180 just your typical small town. 246 00:16:53,180 --> 00:16:56,470 Lot of the families here are second, 247 00:16:56,470 --> 00:16:58,100 third, fourth generation. 248 00:16:58,100 --> 00:16:59,890 They... 249 00:16:59,890 --> 00:17:01,640 Lot of hardworking people. 250 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,060 Just, good, old country folks mostly. 251 00:17:14,890 --> 00:17:17,640 Lot of farmers, ranchers 252 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,890 that, grow rice, soybeans, 253 00:17:20,890 --> 00:17:24,020 raise cattle. 254 00:17:24,020 --> 00:17:26,270 Everybody over here's related to somebody. 255 00:17:26,270 --> 00:17:28,470 That's how usually they start off a conversation 256 00:17:28,470 --> 00:17:32,600 is trying to identify what family you're related to 257 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:34,770 or... or married into. 258 00:17:34,770 --> 00:17:36,430 People like to live 259 00:17:36,430 --> 00:17:38,270 in the area because it's away 260 00:17:38,270 --> 00:17:42,430 from the... lot of hustle and bustle of a bigger city. 261 00:17:42,430 --> 00:17:45,470 Here it's a little quieter, little slower pace, 262 00:17:45,470 --> 00:17:47,270 and people tend to enjoy that. 263 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:50,890 Any town... 264 00:17:50,890 --> 00:17:53,770 has, you know, their issues. 265 00:17:53,770 --> 00:17:56,180 We have a lot of issues with, 266 00:17:56,180 --> 00:17:58,600 burglaries and thefts. 267 00:18:00,430 --> 00:18:02,560 Unfortunately, 268 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:04,180 for better or for worse, 269 00:18:04,180 --> 00:18:06,890 you're a small Southern town whose economy is tied 270 00:18:06,890 --> 00:18:09,640 to volatile sources-- agriculture and oil-- 271 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:13,470 so that, when you get a crash, it just wipes everything out. 272 00:18:15,430 --> 00:18:17,060 Then, on top of all that, 273 00:18:17,060 --> 00:18:19,930 there's a pronounced economic split in Jennings 274 00:18:19,930 --> 00:18:23,890 that runs along the railroad tracks which bisects the town. 275 00:18:24,980 --> 00:18:26,610 This area here in North 276 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:28,970 Jennings-- they're, you know, doctors 277 00:18:28,980 --> 00:18:32,320 and lawyers and rich people. 278 00:18:32,310 --> 00:18:36,310 This is one of the newest and probably the most expensive 279 00:18:36,310 --> 00:18:38,640 neighborhoods in the parish. 280 00:18:42,930 --> 00:18:44,720 From... 281 00:18:44,730 --> 00:18:48,280 from the railroad tracks south, it's mostly of lower income-- 282 00:18:48,270 --> 00:18:50,770 people that are unemployed, or... 283 00:18:50,770 --> 00:18:53,310 individuals involved in... 284 00:18:53,310 --> 00:18:55,850 drug activity. 285 00:18:55,850 --> 00:18:58,600 Where our job comes in is, we have a lot of issues 286 00:18:58,600 --> 00:18:59,810 where, you know, 287 00:18:59,810 --> 00:19:03,520 addicts take things to try to... 288 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:06,520 get money to... to buy more drugs, you know? 289 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:16,970 North side is more like... 290 00:19:16,980 --> 00:19:20,320 upper-class snobs. 291 00:19:22,390 --> 00:19:25,180 South side? 292 00:19:25,180 --> 00:19:26,850 The fucking ghetto. 293 00:19:26,850 --> 00:19:30,020 You got the white ghetto, and you got the black ghetto. 294 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:35,140 Then you got Zoo Street, where everything pops off. 295 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,390 When I mean everything, everything. 296 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:53,060 The cops look 297 00:19:53,060 --> 00:19:56,520 at the south side like... 298 00:19:59,100 --> 00:20:00,890 ...trash. 299 00:20:02,890 --> 00:20:04,390 Like we don't matter. 300 00:20:12,850 --> 00:20:15,100 Two years goes by, 301 00:20:15,100 --> 00:20:18,350 and the sheriff's department was still investigating 302 00:20:18,350 --> 00:20:20,520 Loretta and Ernestine's murders. 303 00:20:25,020 --> 00:20:27,020 I think a lot of people think, 304 00:20:27,020 --> 00:20:28,470 these first two murders were this unrelated thing, 305 00:20:28,470 --> 00:20:30,020 and now they're-they're done. 306 00:20:32,350 --> 00:20:34,470 Things kind of get back to normal, 307 00:20:34,470 --> 00:20:36,890 and people just think it's over. 308 00:20:36,890 --> 00:20:38,930 And they were wrong. 309 00:20:54,140 --> 00:20:57,350 March 18, 2007, 310 00:20:57,350 --> 00:20:59,810 a third body is found. 311 00:20:59,810 --> 00:21:02,890 This time, a lot further out. 312 00:21:02,890 --> 00:21:04,310 We're-we're now south of Welsh 313 00:21:04,310 --> 00:21:08,140 and the Petitjean Canal, 314 00:21:08,140 --> 00:21:11,020 and it's such similar circumstances. 315 00:21:11,020 --> 00:21:13,470 I think everybody in town is just like, 316 00:21:13,470 --> 00:21:15,470 "What on earth is going on here?" 317 00:21:17,140 --> 00:21:20,140 Police find very similar hallmarks 318 00:21:20,140 --> 00:21:23,060 to the first two girls, 319 00:21:23,060 --> 00:21:25,850 but this body has been in the water for much longer, however, 320 00:21:25,850 --> 00:21:27,310 and has had more 321 00:21:27,310 --> 00:21:29,430 trauma from marine predators. 322 00:21:29,430 --> 00:21:31,560 And she's found 323 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,560 mostly nude. 324 00:21:38,770 --> 00:21:40,470 The sheriff's office had 325 00:21:40,470 --> 00:21:43,930 to use dental records to identify the third body... 326 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,680 Kristen Gary Lopez. 327 00:21:49,810 --> 00:21:52,140 Age 21. 328 00:21:59,020 --> 00:22:01,520 Before they had found her, 329 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:05,520 Kristen was officially reported missing, 330 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:09,020 which was so odd. 331 00:22:09,020 --> 00:22:11,720 Everybody that I knew just thought she was on a bender. 332 00:22:11,730 --> 00:22:15,900 You know, it wasn't uncommon for her to... be gone 333 00:22:15,890 --> 00:22:19,220 for a couple of days at a time, a week at a time. 334 00:22:19,220 --> 00:22:20,680 Maybe that's why it rubbed... 335 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,310 it was so odd to me that there was an actual 336 00:22:23,310 --> 00:22:24,850 missing persons report out on her 337 00:22:24,850 --> 00:22:28,560 when this wasn't uncommon for her to be gone. 338 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,770 First thing I did when I found that out-- 339 00:22:30,770 --> 00:22:32,430 I went to the cops. 340 00:22:32,430 --> 00:22:35,060 I wanted to be a part of it. You know, I wanted to help. 341 00:22:35,060 --> 00:22:37,390 You know, this is a friend of mine, my childhood friend. 342 00:22:37,390 --> 00:22:40,850 I wanted to... help find her. 343 00:22:40,850 --> 00:22:45,270 So, I threw myself... kinda in the middle. 344 00:22:45,270 --> 00:22:47,390 You know, calling the detectives, 345 00:22:47,390 --> 00:22:49,810 asking, "Is there anything I can do?" 346 00:22:49,810 --> 00:22:51,350 I don't know. 347 00:22:51,350 --> 00:22:55,720 Like, everything surrounding her death just seemed odd. 348 00:22:55,730 --> 00:22:57,150 I knew Kristen. 349 00:22:57,140 --> 00:23:00,850 My mom basically pretty much raised her. 350 00:23:00,850 --> 00:23:02,850 She was always at the house. 351 00:23:02,850 --> 00:23:04,930 Kristen and I were walking 352 00:23:04,930 --> 00:23:07,310 to her grandmother's house one day. 353 00:23:07,310 --> 00:23:10,270 And you can look on her face and look in her eyes-- 354 00:23:10,270 --> 00:23:11,470 something was wrong. 355 00:23:11,470 --> 00:23:13,180 She's doing like this. 356 00:23:13,180 --> 00:23:16,640 Every time she hear a car, she turned. 357 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,140 I never seen her that paranoid before. 358 00:23:19,140 --> 00:23:20,850 I said, "Kristen, you can talk to me." 359 00:23:20,850 --> 00:23:23,850 She said, "But you're not gonna understand." 360 00:23:25,310 --> 00:23:27,770 The closer it came to her coming up missing, 361 00:23:27,770 --> 00:23:30,350 the less she started coming around. 362 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,100 The last time I seen her, 363 00:23:35,100 --> 00:23:37,560 she was in her room sleeping. 364 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:41,810 I woke her up, handed her some food. 365 00:23:42,810 --> 00:23:44,390 She said, "I'll be back, tootie," 366 00:23:44,390 --> 00:23:46,560 and I ain't seen her since. 367 00:23:48,310 --> 00:23:51,060 Next time I seen... 368 00:23:51,060 --> 00:23:53,140 her face was on the news. 369 00:23:55,220 --> 00:23:57,310 Dead. 370 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,060 Just gone. 371 00:24:00,060 --> 00:24:02,310 Something I can't never replace. 372 00:24:02,310 --> 00:24:05,140 Something I can't ever get back. 373 00:24:14,060 --> 00:24:16,640 Kristen was a beautiful girl. 374 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,640 You know? 375 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,680 I don't know exactly 376 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,640 who started her... 377 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:26,430 her on... on-on the crack. 378 00:24:26,430 --> 00:24:29,430 Now, towards the end, 379 00:24:29,430 --> 00:24:32,310 I smoked crack with her, you know? 380 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,310 I know it's not really... 381 00:24:35,310 --> 00:24:38,390 It's a shame that I-I... you know? 382 00:24:38,390 --> 00:24:40,680 But they were telling me, 383 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,770 "Why you don't tell her to quit?" 384 00:24:42,770 --> 00:24:44,350 You know? 385 00:24:44,350 --> 00:24:45,890 I said, "Well, it's kind of hard 386 00:24:45,890 --> 00:24:48,180 for one crackhead to try and tell another crackhead 387 00:24:48,180 --> 00:24:49,680 not to smoke." 388 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,350 When I'm sitting here smoking. 389 00:24:52,350 --> 00:24:56,100 She got murdered when she was 21. 390 00:24:56,100 --> 00:24:59,020 Of course at that time there, I was already incarcerated. 391 00:24:59,020 --> 00:25:00,640 I was locked up. 392 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,720 And she came to visit with my mom and daddy 393 00:25:03,730 --> 00:25:05,940 on a Saturday. 394 00:25:05,930 --> 00:25:09,600 And... 395 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,560 I can remember telling her 396 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:16,180 before she left the jail that day... 397 00:25:16,180 --> 00:25:18,220 to s-slow her... 398 00:25:18,220 --> 00:25:20,770 "You know, slow down, Kristen. 399 00:25:20,770 --> 00:25:23,060 Do Daddy a favor. 400 00:25:23,060 --> 00:25:24,560 Get off of that crack. 401 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:25,970 Quit it." 402 00:25:25,980 --> 00:25:27,940 I can still see her... 403 00:25:27,930 --> 00:25:30,310 waving in my daddy's... 404 00:25:30,310 --> 00:25:33,560 You know, back seat of the car, waving bye. 405 00:25:45,350 --> 00:25:48,640 I grew up with Kristen. 406 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,520 We were close as kids. 407 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,060 Our parents were real good friends. 408 00:25:55,060 --> 00:25:57,350 My father, he loved Kristen. 409 00:25:57,350 --> 00:26:00,930 You know, Kristen called him Uncle Billy. 410 00:26:03,270 --> 00:26:06,770 We kinda grew apart as we grew older. 411 00:26:06,770 --> 00:26:09,770 She was in a... 412 00:26:09,770 --> 00:26:12,220 drug scene and hanging out with people 413 00:26:12,220 --> 00:26:16,100 that I hadn't advanced to yet, I guess you could say. 414 00:26:16,100 --> 00:26:20,430 I was still just smoking weed and drinking. 415 00:26:20,430 --> 00:26:25,140 I didn't know until I was 18 416 00:26:25,140 --> 00:26:28,310 that my dad and Kristen's relationship 417 00:26:28,310 --> 00:26:31,890 was more than just her calling him "Uncle." 418 00:26:31,890 --> 00:26:34,720 I walked into my dad's house one day-- 419 00:26:34,730 --> 00:26:36,900 I was about 18 or 19-- 420 00:26:36,890 --> 00:26:39,560 and Kristen's running from his bedroom 421 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,560 to the bathroom in a T-shirt and underwear. 422 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:44,640 Did that anger you 423 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,930 that your father was having sex with Kristen? 424 00:26:46,930 --> 00:26:48,310 No. 425 00:26:48,310 --> 00:26:50,560 It was just-- they're two consenting adults. 426 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,770 It didn't bother-- You know, it didn't bother me 427 00:26:52,770 --> 00:26:55,890 at all that they were having sex. 428 00:26:55,890 --> 00:26:58,140 That was just another thing. 429 00:26:58,140 --> 00:26:59,930 I think she was just embarrassed at it, 430 00:26:59,930 --> 00:27:01,810 'cause I used to pick on her. 431 00:27:01,810 --> 00:27:05,430 I used to tell her... "What do you call him? 432 00:27:05,430 --> 00:27:07,680 Do you say 'Ooh, Uncle Billy'?" 433 00:27:23,390 --> 00:27:26,890 My dad. 434 00:27:26,890 --> 00:27:29,020 My dad was an amazing man. 435 00:27:29,020 --> 00:27:33,930 Always happy, always trying to make people laugh. 436 00:27:33,930 --> 00:27:36,640 Always cutting up. 437 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,930 He was always my safe... my safe spot. 438 00:27:39,930 --> 00:27:41,520 You know, I was a daddy's girl. 439 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,430 He was always a safe place for me to go. 440 00:27:46,180 --> 00:27:49,890 And I believe that 441 00:27:49,890 --> 00:27:52,430 a lot of these girls that... 442 00:27:52,430 --> 00:27:55,890 went to his house felt the same way, too, you know. 443 00:27:55,890 --> 00:27:59,600 I know many of the girls were in and out of his camper, 444 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,470 partying, you know, 445 00:28:01,470 --> 00:28:04,180 come and hang out, getting free drugs, 446 00:28:04,180 --> 00:28:07,430 because that's what the camper was known for. 447 00:28:07,430 --> 00:28:09,890 If you're a woman, you can go sit in my dad's camper 448 00:28:09,890 --> 00:28:12,640 and get all the free drugs you wanted. 449 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,430 Just come and go as you please. 450 00:28:14,430 --> 00:28:17,520 Hang out in my dad's camper and Frankie'd be around. 451 00:28:19,350 --> 00:28:24,470 Frankie is my uncle and my godfather. 452 00:28:25,850 --> 00:28:28,270 Uncle Frankie was, like, 453 00:28:28,270 --> 00:28:30,390 the guy you didn't mess with. 454 00:28:32,270 --> 00:28:33,430 You know, 455 00:28:33,430 --> 00:28:35,270 he took care of business, 456 00:28:35,270 --> 00:28:39,020 he was-- he was a badass back in his day. 457 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,020 A lot of the times, 458 00:28:45,020 --> 00:28:49,560 it was mostly family in there: me, Frankie. 459 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,430 You know, we'd all be hanging out in there. 460 00:28:51,430 --> 00:28:52,890 People come and go. 461 00:28:52,890 --> 00:28:54,520 Did you ever think 462 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,680 that was odd that you were smoking crack with your dad? 463 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,520 Yes, I did. 464 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,560 I always-- I thought it was... 465 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,100 It was odd that I was smoking crack with my father. 466 00:29:06,270 --> 00:29:08,520 He, um... 467 00:29:09,850 --> 00:29:11,850 He was a good guy. 468 00:29:11,850 --> 00:29:15,060 I'd like to think my father was a good guy. 469 00:29:32,470 --> 00:29:34,060 So now we're dealing with 470 00:29:34,060 --> 00:29:36,140 three unsolved murders. 471 00:29:36,140 --> 00:29:38,060 All of these murders being very similar, 472 00:29:38,060 --> 00:29:40,930 having a lot of similar characteristics. 473 00:29:43,350 --> 00:29:44,470 Ricky Edwards... 474 00:29:44,470 --> 00:29:46,890 starts to-to link these girls 475 00:29:46,890 --> 00:29:49,810 as-as having run with some of the same crowd. 476 00:29:49,810 --> 00:29:51,430 But something kind of happens here 477 00:29:51,430 --> 00:29:52,970 that-that goes a little further. 478 00:29:52,980 --> 00:29:55,360 Where before Loretta and Ernestine 479 00:29:55,350 --> 00:29:57,350 were definitely linked with drugs, 480 00:29:57,350 --> 00:29:59,020 Ricky Edwards goes a little bit further 481 00:29:59,020 --> 00:30:01,640 to talk about prostitution. 482 00:30:06,020 --> 00:30:08,850 This article comes out in the Jennings Daily News. 483 00:30:08,850 --> 00:30:10,560 And Ricky Edwards made a statement saying 484 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,640 that these girls were living a "high-risk" lifestyle 485 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:16,020 and that this lifestyle, contributed to their deaths. 486 00:30:16,020 --> 00:30:17,810 And matter of fact, he said, 487 00:30:17,810 --> 00:30:20,770 "If you're in this lifestyle, it's time to get out." 488 00:30:20,770 --> 00:30:23,640 And at the time, when the, when the term 489 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,140 "high-risk lifestyle" comes out, 490 00:30:25,140 --> 00:30:26,850 there's all of these connotations 491 00:30:26,850 --> 00:30:29,020 that suddenly spring to mind. 492 00:30:29,020 --> 00:30:33,180 E-especially the idea that-that these women 493 00:30:33,180 --> 00:30:36,220 have chosen this sort of lifestyle. 494 00:30:37,810 --> 00:30:42,640 The connotation is that they chose for this to happen. 495 00:30:44,890 --> 00:30:46,220 You know, I tried to take 496 00:30:46,220 --> 00:30:49,970 Kristen off the street several times. 497 00:30:49,980 --> 00:30:53,570 But drugs controlled this little girl. 498 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,720 Ricky Edwards telling the news that it's... 499 00:30:56,730 --> 00:30:58,610 their lifestyle's prostitution. 500 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,020 Well, yeah, let's just say that. 501 00:31:00,020 --> 00:31:01,350 That way the upper-scale people, 502 00:31:01,350 --> 00:31:02,850 you know, can look at you and say, 503 00:31:02,850 --> 00:31:04,890 "Well, it's their fault." 504 00:31:07,390 --> 00:31:09,520 It's sad. 505 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,100 And that's no heart, you know, that's-that's no heart, 506 00:31:12,100 --> 00:31:14,020 except for-for yourself and your people, 507 00:31:14,020 --> 00:31:15,680 but who cares about everybody else? 508 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:20,430 There were girls again, south side of the track. 509 00:31:22,140 --> 00:31:24,770 Whores and prostitutes and crackheads. 510 00:31:26,270 --> 00:31:28,430 That's how they look at us. 511 00:31:28,430 --> 00:31:31,430 What did they do so wrong, so bad, 512 00:31:31,430 --> 00:31:33,850 for them to be murdered? 513 00:31:45,060 --> 00:31:48,020 We used to, on Sundays, we used to come right here 514 00:31:48,020 --> 00:31:50,810 while my mom and Loretta and them was passed out, 515 00:31:50,810 --> 00:31:52,600 and I used to sneak my little sister 516 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,220 and them to church right here. 517 00:31:55,220 --> 00:31:58,270 Come on, Sophia. 518 00:32:03,980 --> 00:32:06,650 This is the house we was living in 519 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,140 the night I walked Loretta to the bar 520 00:32:10,140 --> 00:32:11,890 and she gave me her purse and she-- 521 00:32:11,890 --> 00:32:13,430 I never seen her again. 522 00:32:21,310 --> 00:32:23,430 She knew something was about to happen. 523 00:32:23,430 --> 00:32:27,640 You know, something wasn't right. 524 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,140 You know. 525 00:32:40,140 --> 00:32:42,810 Every one of these houses right here, 526 00:32:42,810 --> 00:32:45,350 I guarantee you, the girls partied 527 00:32:45,350 --> 00:32:47,970 in every single one of them. 528 00:32:50,020 --> 00:32:53,020 I dream about the girls sometimes. 529 00:32:53,020 --> 00:32:54,600 Mainly Kristen. 530 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,220 Just them telling me that they're okay. 531 00:32:57,220 --> 00:32:59,720 The girls telling me that they're okay. 532 00:32:59,730 --> 00:33:03,070 Kristen came to me in a dream, told me she was okay, 533 00:33:03,060 --> 00:33:06,680 that everything was fine, and not to worry. 534 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,520 It's hard not to worry. 535 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,810 You don't know what to do in this town. 536 00:33:21,180 --> 00:33:23,060 Jennings... 537 00:33:26,220 --> 00:33:28,390 ...basically, puts a curse on you. 538 00:33:28,390 --> 00:33:31,100 You can't never leave. 539 00:33:31,100 --> 00:33:33,100 Y-You leave, and when you leave, 540 00:33:33,100 --> 00:33:36,520 you come back. 541 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,020 I always said I wasn't coming back. 542 00:33:38,020 --> 00:33:40,890 I done came back 12 times. 543 00:33:40,890 --> 00:33:42,850 For real. 544 00:33:45,730 --> 00:33:48,400 Either you're gonna make it, 545 00:33:48,390 --> 00:33:51,970 or you're gonna fall into that grave. 546 00:34:02,310 --> 00:34:05,720 On May the 12th of 2007, 547 00:34:05,730 --> 00:34:09,690 another body was located within Jeff Davis Parish. 548 00:34:20,430 --> 00:34:24,600 That victim was later identified as Whitnei Dubois. 549 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,720 Whitnei's body was located in this general area 550 00:34:31,730 --> 00:34:35,900 on Earl Duhon Road, which is just south of Bobby Road. 551 00:34:38,060 --> 00:34:40,600 The difference that was noticed at first 552 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,930 was the fact that, with the other victims, 553 00:34:42,930 --> 00:34:44,600 they had been placed 554 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,470 in water, 555 00:34:46,470 --> 00:34:49,810 and Whitnei had been placed on a roadway, 556 00:34:49,810 --> 00:34:52,850 totally nude and in a location 557 00:34:52,850 --> 00:34:55,720 that obviously would be located by somebody. 558 00:35:03,930 --> 00:35:06,220 Whitnei Dubois was like the other victims. 559 00:35:06,220 --> 00:35:09,560 Also somebody known to the area and was local, 560 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:10,970 also had association 561 00:35:10,980 --> 00:35:15,440 with other girls in this circle. 562 00:35:16,980 --> 00:35:19,110 Also known to some degree 563 00:35:19,100 --> 00:35:22,640 to have some connection to prostitution and drug usage. 564 00:35:27,730 --> 00:35:29,320 The day... 565 00:35:29,310 --> 00:35:31,680 that we found out 566 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,350 Whitnei was dead, 567 00:35:34,350 --> 00:35:38,850 I guess I thought, um, maybe it's not true. 568 00:35:38,850 --> 00:35:41,180 Maybe... 569 00:35:41,180 --> 00:35:44,060 um, maybe it's a mistake. 570 00:35:44,060 --> 00:35:46,930 And I said, 571 00:35:46,930 --> 00:35:49,020 "We-we need to find out what's going on." 572 00:35:49,020 --> 00:35:51,850 Um, where was she? 573 00:35:51,850 --> 00:35:53,680 Um, who did this? 574 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,850 W-We don't know a whole lot. 575 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,060 I think I knew 576 00:36:03,060 --> 00:36:04,850 that Whitnei... 577 00:36:04,850 --> 00:36:08,140 would have sold her body, I guess. 578 00:36:10,140 --> 00:36:12,060 But... 579 00:36:12,060 --> 00:36:14,060 she was a kid to me. 580 00:36:23,390 --> 00:36:26,220 She was my little cousin. 581 00:36:26,220 --> 00:36:29,350 She wa-- I don't want 582 00:36:29,350 --> 00:36:32,220 to think of her that way. 583 00:36:34,770 --> 00:36:36,600 Whitnei was... 584 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,100 beat up. 585 00:36:38,100 --> 00:36:41,560 Her face wasn't recognizable. 586 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,640 She was found nude in the middle of the road. 587 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:49,470 It was s-some drug head that found her. 588 00:36:51,020 --> 00:36:53,520 Jamie Trahan. 589 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:57,140 The day Whitnei was found, I remember 590 00:36:57,140 --> 00:36:59,640 him being here, and him hugging me. 591 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,770 And me thinking, "W-W-Who is this guy? 592 00:37:03,770 --> 00:37:06,930 And what does... And why is he here?" 593 00:37:06,930 --> 00:37:09,060 W-Why would I want him at my house? 594 00:37:09,060 --> 00:37:13,770 But at the time, you want all the information you can. 595 00:37:13,770 --> 00:37:15,640 But he didn't give us, 596 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,390 apparently, enough information, and I don't think 597 00:37:18,390 --> 00:37:21,270 he gave e-enough information to the cops. 598 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,020 Jamie Trahan claimed 599 00:37:27,020 --> 00:37:30,930 that he had found the body that morning. 600 00:37:30,930 --> 00:37:34,310 But Jamie didn't find that body right when he did. 601 00:37:34,310 --> 00:37:36,270 His-his story was false. 602 00:37:38,770 --> 00:37:41,810 I saw Whitnei's body that night. 603 00:37:41,810 --> 00:37:44,180 My ex-wife and I 604 00:37:44,180 --> 00:37:47,430 were celebrating our anniversary. 605 00:37:47,430 --> 00:37:52,390 We had rented a motel room and we were doing drugs. 606 00:37:52,390 --> 00:37:53,890 Jamie Trahan shows up 607 00:37:53,890 --> 00:37:55,180 at-at the hotel, 608 00:37:55,180 --> 00:37:56,390 which is my ex-wife's brother. 609 00:37:56,390 --> 00:37:58,640 And we smoked some more with him. 610 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,890 Jamie did a lot of things for Frankie Richard 611 00:38:00,890 --> 00:38:04,180 to get drugs, to get dope. 612 00:38:04,180 --> 00:38:07,020 Later, we take a ride. 613 00:38:07,020 --> 00:38:09,970 And Jamie started acting funny. It's like he had 614 00:38:09,980 --> 00:38:11,980 something on his mind, and he had a mission. 615 00:38:11,980 --> 00:38:15,900 As we're taking a ride, we turn 616 00:38:15,890 --> 00:38:18,680 off of Highway 102 onto Bobby Road. 617 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:22,350 And when we turn, Jamie makes a big, long, wide turn. 618 00:38:24,180 --> 00:38:25,850 I looked out, and I could see what appeared to be 619 00:38:25,850 --> 00:38:27,520 a body in the road, and I told him. 620 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,100 I said, "Jamie." I said, "There's a body. 621 00:38:29,100 --> 00:38:30,390 We need to stop." He said, "No." 622 00:38:30,390 --> 00:38:31,680 He said, "That's a deer." 623 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,600 The body shone 624 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,390 off the h-headlights of the truck 625 00:38:35,390 --> 00:38:36,810 as he turned. 626 00:38:36,810 --> 00:38:38,850 It was in a... in a curled up position. 627 00:38:38,850 --> 00:38:40,310 Like, her back was up, 628 00:38:40,310 --> 00:38:42,640 and you could see, like, a sheen of wet. 629 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,600 And that's why I knew it wasn't a deer, 630 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,100 'cause a deer has hair. 631 00:38:46,100 --> 00:38:49,100 This was not a deer. It-it was a shiny body. 632 00:38:49,100 --> 00:38:51,640 And-and I argued with him for quite some time, 633 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,220 and we just continued forward. 634 00:38:55,180 --> 00:38:57,720 Later, he went back to the body, 635 00:38:57,730 --> 00:39:01,030 called the law, and told them he had just found it. 636 00:39:01,930 --> 00:39:04,390 Which was-- this was false. 637 00:39:04,390 --> 00:39:06,430 Jamie put that body there, 638 00:39:06,430 --> 00:39:08,060 if you ask me. 639 00:39:08,060 --> 00:39:11,060 Now, I don't know that for a fact, 640 00:39:11,060 --> 00:39:12,560 but he automatically turned wide 641 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,720 and went almost into the ditch to miss that body. 642 00:39:14,730 --> 00:39:16,030 He knew that body was there 643 00:39:16,020 --> 00:39:18,060 before he ever turned on that road. 644 00:40:52,930 --> 00:40:55,640 We have been able to identify 645 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,930 through the investigation over the years 646 00:40:57,930 --> 00:41:02,390 a few people that... we have concerns about 647 00:41:02,390 --> 00:41:04,680 connected to this death. 648 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,100 And we would consider them persons of interest, 649 00:41:07,100 --> 00:41:09,270 but we haven't publicly named anybody. 650 00:41:11,020 --> 00:41:12,350 There have been no arrests made 651 00:41:12,350 --> 00:41:15,180 connected to the death of Whitnei Dubois. 652 00:41:21,020 --> 00:41:22,600 So, with four bodies being found, 653 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:23,770 I mean, obviously, this is... 654 00:41:23,770 --> 00:41:25,140 We'd never seen anything 655 00:41:25,140 --> 00:41:26,810 like this sort of situation. 656 00:41:26,810 --> 00:41:30,470 It's to the point now where I'm-I'm in the store, 657 00:41:30,470 --> 00:41:33,520 people are stopping me, asking me questions about it. 658 00:41:38,310 --> 00:41:40,350 People were scared. 659 00:41:40,350 --> 00:41:42,640 People were scared because 660 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:43,930 the girls were being killed. 661 00:41:43,930 --> 00:41:47,720 They was just being thrown away like they was nothing. 662 00:41:47,730 --> 00:41:50,480 It was fucking crazy. 663 00:41:51,390 --> 00:41:53,180 When the bodies started... 664 00:41:53,180 --> 00:41:54,810 "Here's another one. 665 00:41:54,810 --> 00:41:56,890 Okay, here's another body. 666 00:41:56,890 --> 00:41:59,100 My God, there's another body?" 667 00:41:59,100 --> 00:42:00,430 It's fucking crazy. 668 00:42:00,430 --> 00:42:01,720 It's like... 669 00:42:01,730 --> 00:42:04,400 What the fuck is really going on in this town? 670 00:42:04,390 --> 00:42:08,140 Is there just one person killing all these people? 671 00:42:10,060 --> 00:42:11,560 We didn't let our kids walk 672 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,600 to the grocery store anymore. 673 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,890 We didn't let our kids ride around the block 674 00:42:15,890 --> 00:42:18,270 on their bicycles anymore. 675 00:42:18,270 --> 00:42:21,680 It got to where you didn't trust anyone 676 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,220 because you didn't know 677 00:42:23,220 --> 00:42:27,020 if-if the person sitting next to you was a serial killer. 678 00:42:33,390 --> 00:42:35,310 Nobody in law enforcement 679 00:42:35,310 --> 00:42:38,890 wanted to say "serial killer" at the time. 680 00:42:38,890 --> 00:42:42,390 And we couldn't get callbacks from the cops. 681 00:42:43,930 --> 00:42:46,770 They-they wouldn't answer our questions. 682 00:42:46,770 --> 00:42:48,600 Did she get in a car with somebody? 683 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,270 How was she killed? 684 00:42:50,270 --> 00:42:52,310 We never... we never saw her body. 685 00:42:52,310 --> 00:42:56,180 It's like they didn't want us to know anything. 686 00:42:56,180 --> 00:42:57,850 At-at first, 687 00:42:57,850 --> 00:43:00,270 I figured, you know, they would do what was right 688 00:43:00,270 --> 00:43:02,770 and that they were gonna do the, you know, investigation. 689 00:43:02,770 --> 00:43:04,600 Do everything that they were supposed to do 690 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:05,640 the right way, you know. 691 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,060 And the people that we spoke to, 692 00:43:07,060 --> 00:43:08,930 you know, they sounded... 693 00:43:08,930 --> 00:43:13,350 like they were, you know, headstrong on figuring this out. 694 00:43:13,350 --> 00:43:15,720 But then they were all already trying 695 00:43:15,730 --> 00:43:18,110 to pass the buck off on their lifestyles. 696 00:43:18,100 --> 00:43:19,640 Well, every time we'd try to call, 697 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,970 we'd call the-the sheriff, Ricky Edwards. 698 00:43:22,980 --> 00:43:24,780 He'd say, "We working on it. 699 00:43:24,770 --> 00:43:27,970 We working on it. Don't have no answers yet." 700 00:43:27,980 --> 00:43:29,780 As a homicide investigator, 701 00:43:29,770 --> 00:43:33,270 it's really hard not to have answers for family members. 702 00:43:33,270 --> 00:43:35,640 And they call you, 703 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:40,270 and you don't have answers for 'em. 704 00:43:40,270 --> 00:43:42,020 Lot of stuff that people have no idea 705 00:43:42,020 --> 00:43:44,890 how much work was done and what was done. 706 00:43:44,890 --> 00:43:46,470 We can't discuss all that. 707 00:43:52,850 --> 00:43:54,930 When I was incarcerated, 708 00:43:54,930 --> 00:43:56,640 well, when they all come in, 709 00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,640 they tell me to come to the office back there, 710 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:02,810 I knew... they was there to tell me somethin'. 711 00:44:06,930 --> 00:44:08,890 Well, it would happen 712 00:44:08,890 --> 00:44:10,560 they think they know who did it. 713 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,020 Bam! Arrest her. 714 00:44:14,180 --> 00:44:16,180 Suddenly, 715 00:44:16,180 --> 00:44:19,430 right on the heels of Whitnei's body being discovered, 716 00:44:19,430 --> 00:44:21,520 the sheriff's department arrests two people 717 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,470 for Kristen's murder. 718 00:44:24,470 --> 00:44:27,430 I remember that day. 719 00:44:27,430 --> 00:44:28,930 It was... 720 00:44:28,930 --> 00:44:31,850 the scariest... 721 00:44:31,850 --> 00:44:35,430 most insane part of my life. 722 00:44:35,430 --> 00:44:37,720 I called one of the detectives to let him know, 723 00:44:37,730 --> 00:44:40,730 "Hey, look, I'm going out of state 724 00:44:40,730 --> 00:44:44,030 to my boyfriend's grandma's house. 725 00:44:44,020 --> 00:44:45,770 We're going on a little vacation. 726 00:44:45,770 --> 00:44:47,930 May not have service up there, 727 00:44:47,930 --> 00:44:50,890 but, would it be okay if I called y'all 728 00:44:50,890 --> 00:44:53,770 when I get service to see if y'all have any updates?" 729 00:44:53,770 --> 00:44:57,060 And he was like, "Yeah, that's fine. Whatever." 730 00:44:57,060 --> 00:44:59,560 And next thing I knew, that same night, 731 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,390 he calls me on my cell phone. 732 00:45:01,390 --> 00:45:02,680 He's like, "Hannah, we're here. 733 00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:06,020 Can you please come outside?" 734 00:45:06,020 --> 00:45:07,640 Sorry. -That's okay. 735 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,680 It's okay. 736 00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,770 They arrested me for second-degree murder. 737 00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,310 The sheriff's department 738 00:45:24,310 --> 00:45:27,270 arrests Hannah Conner 739 00:45:27,270 --> 00:45:28,680 and her uncle, 740 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,770 Frankie Richard. 741 00:45:30,770 --> 00:45:32,220 Frankie Richard was somebody 742 00:45:32,220 --> 00:45:35,470 that most people knew to be involved in drugs, 743 00:45:35,470 --> 00:45:37,020 and had a very... 744 00:45:37,020 --> 00:45:38,270 violent past. 745 00:45:39,930 --> 00:45:41,390 Thirty years ago, 746 00:45:41,390 --> 00:45:44,390 Frankie owned a lot of strip joints. 747 00:45:44,390 --> 00:45:46,350 He had all these strippers working for him, 748 00:45:46,350 --> 00:45:48,100 prostitutes, and he would bring them home 749 00:45:48,100 --> 00:45:51,270 and brag about how he would trick them out for dope. 750 00:45:51,270 --> 00:45:53,470 Frankie took pleasure in telling the stories 751 00:45:53,470 --> 00:45:56,810 of the things that he did to the people he did it to. 752 00:45:56,810 --> 00:45:59,600 No, there was no remorse in Frankie. 753 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:01,470 H-He, at one time, 754 00:46:01,470 --> 00:46:03,430 seemed to be involved 755 00:46:03,430 --> 00:46:06,600 in harming people if they need, you know, to be harmed. 756 00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,270 He would do it for a fee. 757 00:46:12,220 --> 00:46:14,520 He's a... he's a person 758 00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,970 that we had dealings with a lot 759 00:46:16,980 --> 00:46:19,530 in law enforcement. 760 00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,720 Frankie said himself in interviews that he was... 761 00:46:22,730 --> 00:46:24,610 knew all of 'em, you know. 762 00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:26,270 Partied with them. 763 00:46:27,220 --> 00:46:28,390 Basically, 764 00:46:28,390 --> 00:46:32,560 Kristen, Loretta, Whitnei, they all 765 00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:33,930 hung around with Frankie. 766 00:46:33,930 --> 00:46:36,100 Frankie sold drugs. 767 00:46:36,100 --> 00:46:38,020 If they couldn't get it from somebody, 768 00:46:38,020 --> 00:46:39,220 they got it from him. 769 00:46:39,220 --> 00:46:40,810 They would party together. 770 00:46:40,810 --> 00:46:42,600 They would hit licks together. 771 00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,560 Kristen would go with him numerous times to hit licks. 772 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,390 As in tricks 773 00:46:47,390 --> 00:46:48,680 at the Budget Inn. 774 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:50,810 Frankie's scary. 775 00:46:50,810 --> 00:46:53,350 He's a very intimidating man. 776 00:46:53,350 --> 00:46:54,850 Police didn't immediately link Frankie 777 00:46:54,850 --> 00:46:56,520 to the-- any of the other murders, 778 00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,310 though, even at that point, 779 00:46:58,310 --> 00:47:00,560 you were starting to hear rumors on the street 780 00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,470 that Frankie had killed all these girls. 781 00:47:03,470 --> 00:47:05,680 Guilty for-- if not for all of them, for some. 782 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:07,640 My sister. He put my sister in there. 783 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:08,970 I know he did. 784 00:47:08,980 --> 00:47:10,440 I want to get him to be locked up 785 00:47:10,430 --> 00:47:12,180 in that pen, that cell 786 00:47:12,180 --> 00:47:16,890 and let him do day for day for day. 787 00:47:27,220 --> 00:47:29,680 I think the quick arrest of Frankie and Hannah 788 00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,220 went a long way to sort of quelling 789 00:47:32,220 --> 00:47:34,220 some of the fears in town. 790 00:47:34,220 --> 00:47:37,930 People think that this is over, and the general idea of fear, 791 00:47:37,930 --> 00:47:39,560 whatever there was, 792 00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,140 just sort of subsides. 793 00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,890 And then, suddenly, a couple of weeks later, 794 00:47:51,890 --> 00:47:55,060 Frankie and Hannah are cleared 795 00:47:55,060 --> 00:47:57,060 of any criminal charges in the case. 796 00:47:59,350 --> 00:48:02,600 But this is not something that was publicly known. 797 00:48:04,390 --> 00:48:06,930 It wasn't like a press release came out. 798 00:48:08,850 --> 00:48:10,720 Like, it happened very quietly. 799 00:48:12,310 --> 00:48:15,270 They arrested him, had him in custody already, 800 00:48:15,270 --> 00:48:17,930 pinned the charge on him for murder, 801 00:48:17,930 --> 00:48:21,100 and then all charges are dropped. 802 00:48:22,310 --> 00:48:25,470 No one could understand why they did that. 803 00:48:25,470 --> 00:48:26,930 It just looked real bad. 804 00:48:26,930 --> 00:48:29,020 It doesn't make any sense. 805 00:48:34,100 --> 00:48:37,640 Our Father, who art in Heaven, hallowed be Thy name. 806 00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:39,560 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done 807 00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,390 on Earth as it is in Heaven. 808 00:48:41,390 --> 00:48:43,640 Give us this day our daily bread 809 00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:45,350 and forgive us our trespasses 810 00:48:45,350 --> 00:48:48,720 as we forgive those who trespass against us. 811 00:48:48,730 --> 00:48:50,780 And lead us not into temptation, 812 00:48:50,770 --> 00:48:53,100 but deliver us from evil. Amen. 813 00:48:55,390 --> 00:48:57,310 We want to see justice. 814 00:48:57,310 --> 00:48:59,600 We want peace to be brought to the families. 815 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:01,600 To finally know 816 00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:05,270 that they do care about what happens in this town. 817 00:49:05,270 --> 00:49:08,970 Took my baby girl away. 818 00:49:08,980 --> 00:49:11,480 He killed her like an animal. 819 00:49:11,470 --> 00:49:15,140 Sheriff Ricky Edwards didn't step up to the plate 820 00:49:15,140 --> 00:49:17,890 when he should've stepped up to the plate. 821 00:49:17,890 --> 00:49:20,060 You had him locked up. 822 00:49:20,060 --> 00:49:22,430 But they turned him loose. 823 00:49:22,430 --> 00:49:26,770 But his name keeps coming back. 824 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,970 Frankie Richard, Frankie Richard. 825 00:49:32,980 --> 00:49:34,820 To this day, he's still a free man. 826 00:49:34,810 --> 00:49:37,350 You still see him around town. 827 00:49:37,350 --> 00:49:40,180 Head up, he-he don't look like he's sorry for nothing, 828 00:49:40,180 --> 00:49:42,100 but I know he's guilty. 829 00:49:42,100 --> 00:49:45,850 Lord, promise me, when they die, 830 00:49:45,850 --> 00:49:48,970 they going to hell. 831 00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:05,680 I did not... 832 00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,430 have anything to do 833 00:50:08,430 --> 00:50:11,720 with any of them girls' death. 834 00:50:11,730 --> 00:50:16,150 These girls lost their lives 835 00:50:16,140 --> 00:50:20,350 because they seen something, 836 00:50:20,350 --> 00:50:22,180 heard something, 837 00:50:22,180 --> 00:50:27,020 knew something that they was not supposed to know. 60915

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