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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,335 --> 00:00:02,935 Schrader: Fear -- most run from it. 2 00:00:03,037 --> 00:00:04,236 Bruni: What happened in here? 3 00:00:04,338 --> 00:00:05,671 [ static crackles ] 4 00:00:05,773 --> 00:00:07,606 oh, my god. 5 00:00:07,708 --> 00:00:10,175 But some embrace it. 6 00:00:10,277 --> 00:00:12,945 This is a place that has a very, very dark 7 00:00:13,047 --> 00:00:15,514 and morbid, sad history. 8 00:00:15,616 --> 00:00:17,783 [ crying ] I don't even want to open my eyes. 9 00:00:17,885 --> 00:00:20,119 I'm dave schrader, lead paranormal investigator 10 00:00:20,221 --> 00:00:21,453 of "the holzer files," 11 00:00:21,555 --> 00:00:23,222 bringing you the most outrageous... 12 00:00:23,324 --> 00:00:25,190 Both: Ohh! 13 00:00:25,292 --> 00:00:28,027 That was a very distinct answer. 14 00:00:28,129 --> 00:00:29,461 ...And shocking moments... 15 00:00:29,563 --> 00:00:30,529 It's horrible. 16 00:00:30,631 --> 00:00:32,598 How did they execute people here? 17 00:00:32,700 --> 00:00:33,665 Gallows. 18 00:00:33,768 --> 00:00:35,834 Schrader: ...From a terrifying episode... 19 00:00:35,936 --> 00:00:36,902 Punch. 20 00:00:37,004 --> 00:00:38,137 Bruni: You have people being grabbed. 21 00:00:38,239 --> 00:00:39,471 You have people being shoved. 22 00:00:39,573 --> 00:00:40,572 Someone hit me. 23 00:00:40,674 --> 00:00:42,508 Schrader: ...Of "kindred spirits." 24 00:00:42,610 --> 00:00:44,710 something wants our attention, and it's got it. 25 00:00:44,812 --> 00:00:47,146 ♪♪ 26 00:00:47,248 --> 00:00:49,715 schrader: You've told us they stand out for you, too. 27 00:00:49,817 --> 00:00:52,151 So the "kindred spirits" crew, amy... 28 00:00:52,253 --> 00:00:54,887 In a space like this, you don't want to take any chances. 29 00:00:54,989 --> 00:00:56,021 Schrader: ...Adam... 30 00:00:56,123 --> 00:00:58,791 Throwing ourselves in the belly of the beast 31 00:00:58,893 --> 00:01:00,926 schrader: ...And chip... Dogs get treated better. 32 00:01:01,028 --> 00:01:02,494 How horrible this must have been. 33 00:01:02,596 --> 00:01:04,897 Schrader: ...Are going to answer your questions from twitter, 34 00:01:04,999 --> 00:01:08,534 as well as some of mine, about these ghostly encounters... 35 00:01:08,636 --> 00:01:10,469 I just heard something really loud drop. 36 00:01:10,571 --> 00:01:11,637 ...And offer new insights 37 00:01:11,739 --> 00:01:15,007 into a truly spine-chilling investigation. 38 00:01:15,109 --> 00:01:16,542 Who just whispered? 39 00:01:16,644 --> 00:01:19,144 ♪♪ 40 00:01:19,246 --> 00:01:21,413 st. Augustine, florida. 41 00:01:21,515 --> 00:01:23,582 Oldest city in america. 42 00:01:23,684 --> 00:01:25,784 Notorious for its hauntings. 43 00:01:25,886 --> 00:01:27,920 The old jail has a dark history. 44 00:01:28,022 --> 00:01:30,589 Bruni: People were virtually tortured. 45 00:01:30,691 --> 00:01:33,158 Schrader: Prisoners were treated worse than animals. 46 00:01:33,260 --> 00:01:36,762 Public executions were common. 47 00:01:36,864 --> 00:01:40,332 Recently, activity has escalated. 48 00:01:40,434 --> 00:01:43,402 People have been punched and choked. 49 00:01:43,504 --> 00:01:47,372 So amy, adam, and chip were called in to investigate. 50 00:01:47,475 --> 00:01:49,741 ♪♪ 51 00:01:49,844 --> 00:01:51,743 here's our first question from twitter. 52 00:01:51,846 --> 00:01:54,079 Sigoladerecha asks, 53 00:01:54,181 --> 00:01:57,116 "how do you feel being in such a negative place? 54 00:01:57,218 --> 00:02:00,219 How can you describe that? I'd be terrified." 55 00:02:00,321 --> 00:02:02,354 the jail is wild, because during the day, 56 00:02:02,456 --> 00:02:04,056 it's a massive tourist attraction. 57 00:02:04,158 --> 00:02:07,893 But then when the lights go out, the vibe completely changes. 58 00:02:07,995 --> 00:02:10,496 You feel like something is watching you constantly. 59 00:02:10,598 --> 00:02:13,365 It's one of the most terrifying places ever. 60 00:02:13,467 --> 00:02:16,502 Well, it's time to interview the jail manager, stephen. 61 00:02:16,604 --> 00:02:18,770 ♪♪ 62 00:02:18,873 --> 00:02:20,906 and how long was the jail running? 63 00:02:21,008 --> 00:02:23,876 1891 to 1953. 64 00:02:23,978 --> 00:02:26,245 Oh, and then what was the reason for closing it? 65 00:02:26,347 --> 00:02:28,580 The disease in here was rampant, 66 00:02:28,682 --> 00:02:30,682 the overcrowding unbearable. 67 00:02:30,784 --> 00:02:32,518 People were fighting. Were they killing each other? 68 00:02:32,620 --> 00:02:33,785 Like... 69 00:02:33,888 --> 00:02:35,287 To say the least. Okay. 70 00:02:35,389 --> 00:02:36,421 Oh, really, it was that bad? 71 00:02:36,524 --> 00:02:37,956 We had murderers in this jail. 72 00:02:38,058 --> 00:02:42,094 We had a variety of criminals in this jail, 73 00:02:42,196 --> 00:02:44,897 and energy like that doesn't just leave 74 00:02:44,999 --> 00:02:46,832 because you've dragged the bodies out. 75 00:02:46,934 --> 00:02:48,700 True. So true. 76 00:02:48,802 --> 00:02:49,868 Yeah. 77 00:02:49,970 --> 00:02:52,804 Could you actually feel the energy there? 78 00:02:52,907 --> 00:02:55,674 ♪♪ 79 00:02:55,776 --> 00:02:58,544 yeah. I mean, I think what's interesting 80 00:02:58,646 --> 00:03:01,346 is you almost feel like you can cut it with a knife, 81 00:03:01,448 --> 00:03:05,350 it's so thick and overpowering. Oh, my god. 82 00:03:05,452 --> 00:03:07,186 Yeah. I mean, I know that just when you go in 83 00:03:07,288 --> 00:03:09,922 and you start thinking about what happened there, 84 00:03:10,024 --> 00:03:13,358 like, the tragedy and, just, the death, 85 00:03:13,460 --> 00:03:15,694 it kind of overtakes you. And you're in there, 86 00:03:15,796 --> 00:03:17,262 and it's hard not to think about that 87 00:03:17,364 --> 00:03:18,597 and just get the job done. 88 00:03:18,699 --> 00:03:19,865 So true. 89 00:03:19,967 --> 00:03:24,603 ♪♪ 90 00:03:24,705 --> 00:03:27,873 stephen: We are in maximum security, 91 00:03:27,975 --> 00:03:30,475 where the worst of the worst would've been kept. 92 00:03:32,546 --> 00:03:35,547 Bruni: Is there anything that's happened in this area? 93 00:03:35,649 --> 00:03:37,082 This cell down here 94 00:03:37,151 --> 00:03:38,884 is solitary confinement. 95 00:03:38,986 --> 00:03:42,621 People being grabbed by the arm 96 00:03:42,723 --> 00:03:45,857 turned around to realize nothing is there. 97 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:47,292 I've seen a figure 98 00:03:47,394 --> 00:03:49,194 affectionately known as the crawler. 99 00:03:51,398 --> 00:03:53,265 It's a very dark entity. 100 00:03:53,367 --> 00:03:55,167 It's like a shadow figure, 101 00:03:55,269 --> 00:03:57,436 but one that you see with the naked eye, 102 00:03:57,538 --> 00:04:00,606 one that is darker than any other shadow, 103 00:04:00,708 --> 00:04:02,441 one that tends to move. 104 00:04:02,543 --> 00:04:04,209 To suddenly be in the presence 105 00:04:04,311 --> 00:04:06,311 of something that is crawling, 106 00:04:06,413 --> 00:04:10,015 it changed me. It was terrifying. 107 00:04:10,117 --> 00:04:11,216 So creepy. 108 00:04:11,318 --> 00:04:13,051 Schrader: We have another question from twitter. 109 00:04:13,153 --> 00:04:16,888 Joan asks, "what do you think shadow figures really are? 110 00:04:16,991 --> 00:04:18,890 And can you get rid of them?" 111 00:04:18,993 --> 00:04:20,392 I think that shadow figures 112 00:04:20,494 --> 00:04:23,562 are just one of many ways that spirits manifest. 113 00:04:23,664 --> 00:04:27,332 And I think they tend to be more residual in energy, 114 00:04:27,434 --> 00:04:29,334 but they're super creepy. 115 00:04:29,436 --> 00:04:31,603 They're kind of like the epitome 116 00:04:31,705 --> 00:04:33,105 of scary activity for people. 117 00:04:33,207 --> 00:04:34,506 I think that's why a lot of people 118 00:04:34,608 --> 00:04:37,276 tend to associate them with something negative. 119 00:04:37,378 --> 00:04:39,278 ♪♪ 120 00:04:39,380 --> 00:04:41,480 uh -- uh -- 121 00:04:41,582 --> 00:04:43,649 oh, my god. 122 00:04:43,751 --> 00:04:45,751 Yeah, and I don't really think you can get rid of something 123 00:04:45,853 --> 00:04:47,552 that really wants to get your attention. 124 00:04:47,655 --> 00:04:50,889 Mm-hmm. 125 00:04:50,991 --> 00:04:52,391 There's a story I want to tell you 126 00:04:52,493 --> 00:04:54,126 about something that happened to me. 127 00:04:54,228 --> 00:04:58,163 As I was coming up the stairs... 128 00:04:58,265 --> 00:05:00,465 I hit about this spot, 129 00:05:00,567 --> 00:05:02,134 and suddenly, 130 00:05:02,236 --> 00:05:06,505 I felt a full-on hand press against my chest. 131 00:05:06,607 --> 00:05:10,575 And then I felt a push. 132 00:05:10,678 --> 00:05:12,044 I came backwards, 133 00:05:12,146 --> 00:05:15,247 right back down these stairs. 134 00:05:15,382 --> 00:05:17,716 People get shoved in this building. 135 00:05:17,818 --> 00:05:19,518 People feel things in this building. 136 00:05:19,620 --> 00:05:22,521 People become overwhelmed with things in this building 137 00:05:22,623 --> 00:05:25,390 that they can't see, they can't grasp, they can't understand, 138 00:05:25,492 --> 00:05:27,292 and in a place like this, 139 00:05:27,394 --> 00:05:30,595 it's absolutely shattering. It's terrifying. 140 00:05:30,698 --> 00:05:33,832 Karen asks, "do you think that the spirits were angry 141 00:05:33,934 --> 00:05:36,702 or frustrated by the tourists not being aware 142 00:05:36,804 --> 00:05:38,737 of the dark history of that jail?" 143 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,606 can you imagine being this trapped soul 144 00:05:41,709 --> 00:05:43,608 that had this awful ending to your life, 145 00:05:43,711 --> 00:05:45,610 and people are just walking through the place 146 00:05:45,713 --> 00:05:47,612 with, like, ice cream cones and stuff all day? 147 00:05:47,715 --> 00:05:51,516 I feel like that's why at night, when things quiet down, 148 00:05:51,618 --> 00:05:53,285 they want to get your attention, 149 00:05:53,387 --> 00:05:55,420 'cause that's the only chance they have. 150 00:05:55,522 --> 00:05:57,789 Stephen: One night, I had a group up here. 151 00:05:57,891 --> 00:05:59,925 The group is in here, 152 00:06:00,027 --> 00:06:04,029 and I'm moving around the outside of the cell block, 153 00:06:04,131 --> 00:06:05,764 telling them a story 154 00:06:05,866 --> 00:06:08,700 when I see that one of my guests 155 00:06:08,802 --> 00:06:10,369 has decided to follow me. 156 00:06:10,471 --> 00:06:13,605 It's only as I got around the corner and over here 157 00:06:13,707 --> 00:06:17,142 that I realize that that guest was getting closer to me, 158 00:06:17,244 --> 00:06:20,712 and I was able to make out that it wasn't indeed a guest at all. 159 00:06:20,814 --> 00:06:23,815 The crawler was moving against the bars 160 00:06:23,917 --> 00:06:25,217 rather than on the floor. 161 00:06:25,319 --> 00:06:27,052 That was a real eye-opening moment for me. 162 00:06:27,154 --> 00:06:28,253 Bruni: Yeah. 163 00:06:28,355 --> 00:06:31,323 The crawler? What the hell is the crawler? 164 00:06:31,425 --> 00:06:35,260 Yeah, it's definitely something you don't want to be startled by 165 00:06:35,362 --> 00:06:36,428 when you're alone in the dark. 166 00:06:36,530 --> 00:06:38,764 I don't... 167 00:06:38,866 --> 00:06:40,065 Want to say 168 00:06:40,167 --> 00:06:41,800 what I just saw on the floor. 169 00:06:41,902 --> 00:06:43,502 It's terrifying. 170 00:06:43,604 --> 00:06:45,404 I want to be startled by it alone in the dark 171 00:06:45,506 --> 00:06:46,505 or in the light. 172 00:06:46,607 --> 00:06:48,673 That's nightmare fuel. 173 00:06:48,776 --> 00:06:50,342 Yeah. 174 00:06:50,444 --> 00:06:52,043 And I've encountered 175 00:06:52,146 --> 00:06:53,545 the crawler. Really? 176 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:54,946 And when I've seen it, 177 00:06:55,048 --> 00:06:56,214 it was in the women's cell block. 178 00:06:56,316 --> 00:06:58,150 And the way I noticed is because it's dark. 179 00:06:58,252 --> 00:06:59,050 Mm-hmm. Yeah. 180 00:06:59,153 --> 00:07:00,419 It's pitch black in there. 181 00:07:00,521 --> 00:07:03,655 But then there's another spot on the floor that's even darker. 182 00:07:03,757 --> 00:07:05,524 And you can kind of see it moving around a little. 183 00:07:05,626 --> 00:07:06,658 You notice the one corner, 184 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:08,093 and then you notice it move over here. 185 00:07:08,195 --> 00:07:10,629 Then you feel something brush up against your leg. 186 00:07:10,731 --> 00:07:13,365 There has been a few times when I was giving tours 187 00:07:13,467 --> 00:07:14,633 in maximum security, 188 00:07:14,735 --> 00:07:16,468 and this happened to me for two days straight. 189 00:07:16,570 --> 00:07:17,502 Mm-hmm. 190 00:07:17,604 --> 00:07:19,504 Every time I walked in there, 191 00:07:19,606 --> 00:07:22,674 I start getting this sharp pain in my stomach, 192 00:07:22,776 --> 00:07:24,643 like, a sharp pain 193 00:07:24,745 --> 00:07:25,644 where it almost felt like 194 00:07:25,746 --> 00:07:27,446 I was losing breath. Wow. 195 00:07:27,548 --> 00:07:29,581 I would have to stop, breathe a little, 196 00:07:29,683 --> 00:07:30,816 and carry on with the story. 197 00:07:30,918 --> 00:07:32,017 Okay. 198 00:07:32,119 --> 00:07:33,552 But every time I stepped out... 199 00:07:33,654 --> 00:07:34,886 It was gone. ...It was gone. 200 00:07:34,988 --> 00:07:36,488 It just totally left. 201 00:07:36,590 --> 00:07:38,457 Is there any area of concern 202 00:07:38,559 --> 00:07:40,759 that you would like to see us focus on 203 00:07:40,861 --> 00:07:42,694 or that you think needs our help? 204 00:07:44,264 --> 00:07:47,132 If you ask me, the entire building. 205 00:07:47,234 --> 00:07:49,234 The energy is so crazy, 206 00:07:49,336 --> 00:07:51,603 I kept thinking, "how are these people still working here?" 207 00:07:51,705 --> 00:07:52,804 right. 208 00:07:52,906 --> 00:07:55,407 The entities. I mean, it's clearly violent. 209 00:07:55,509 --> 00:07:58,243 How concerned were you for the safety of yourselves 210 00:07:58,345 --> 00:07:59,544 and for the crew? 211 00:07:59,646 --> 00:08:01,246 I mean, you always have to be cautious 212 00:08:01,348 --> 00:08:02,380 about something like this. 213 00:08:02,483 --> 00:08:03,782 You never know what you're going to get, 214 00:08:03,884 --> 00:08:06,585 and you never know what kind of questions you need to ask 215 00:08:06,687 --> 00:08:08,053 to make sure that you're safe. 216 00:08:08,155 --> 00:08:11,089 And so you just hit it head on and try to protect each other. 217 00:08:11,191 --> 00:08:14,159 Employees are quitting because they're scared to work here. 218 00:08:14,261 --> 00:08:16,394 It doesn't surprise me, though, with a history like this. 219 00:08:16,497 --> 00:08:19,097 I mean, the place is already dangerous enough in the dark, 220 00:08:19,199 --> 00:08:21,099 all these, like, stairs everywhere and things. 221 00:08:21,201 --> 00:08:24,002 The added intensity of something there 222 00:08:24,104 --> 00:08:26,271 that might want to push you down those stairs 223 00:08:26,373 --> 00:08:30,175 is definitely something you have to watch out for. 224 00:08:30,277 --> 00:08:32,110 Bruni: Now that the jail has closed and we're alone, 225 00:08:32,212 --> 00:08:34,012 we're going to start our search for this crawler 226 00:08:34,114 --> 00:08:37,115 in the deputies' quarters. 227 00:08:37,217 --> 00:08:39,751 Alright, so this is the flux 2. 228 00:08:39,853 --> 00:08:41,386 So you can set it to respond 229 00:08:41,488 --> 00:08:43,455 if something moves within a foot, 230 00:08:43,557 --> 00:08:45,257 if something moves within, like three feet, 231 00:08:45,359 --> 00:08:48,026 if something moves within seven feet. 232 00:08:48,128 --> 00:08:50,295 Oh, I put this k2 here 233 00:08:50,397 --> 00:08:53,298 just because there's a bunch of objects on here. 234 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:54,332 It's already going off. 235 00:08:54,434 --> 00:08:55,867 I think something is setting it off. 236 00:08:55,969 --> 00:08:57,903 Schrader: Here's another question from twitter, 237 00:08:58,005 --> 00:08:59,271 and I'm paraphrasing. 238 00:08:59,373 --> 00:09:02,474 Daff nee asks, "what investigative tool 239 00:09:02,576 --> 00:09:04,576 do you like to use best?" 240 00:09:04,678 --> 00:09:07,212 I think we definitely gravitate toward our recorder 241 00:09:07,314 --> 00:09:09,614 just because we can have full-on conversations. 242 00:09:09,716 --> 00:09:11,149 That's why we review it in real time. 243 00:09:11,251 --> 00:09:13,718 We ask questions, and then we listen right back. 244 00:09:13,820 --> 00:09:16,688 So we are actually conversing with these spirits. 245 00:09:16,790 --> 00:09:19,991 Do you happen to know who is upstairs? 246 00:09:20,093 --> 00:09:21,026 [ static crackles ] 247 00:09:21,128 --> 00:09:23,094 was he feeling you? 248 00:09:23,196 --> 00:09:24,596 What is your name? 249 00:09:24,698 --> 00:09:26,298 What happened in here? 250 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:27,566 [ static crackles ] 251 00:09:27,668 --> 00:09:30,235 oh, my god. 252 00:09:30,337 --> 00:09:32,237 Also, we tend to pick the piece of equipment 253 00:09:32,339 --> 00:09:34,139 that's going to help us focus on the individual 254 00:09:34,241 --> 00:09:37,142 we're trying to contact, whether it's something touching it 255 00:09:37,244 --> 00:09:38,577 or something speaking. 256 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,079 Let's do a little evp work. Mm-hmm. 257 00:09:41,181 --> 00:09:45,016 Hi, there, to whoever is here who's nonliving. 258 00:09:45,118 --> 00:09:46,818 No one's passing any judgement on you 259 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:48,720 or what you did or how you ended up here, 260 00:09:48,822 --> 00:09:51,323 and even if you worked here 261 00:09:51,425 --> 00:09:53,959 and maybe were witness to some terrible things 262 00:09:54,061 --> 00:09:55,994 and feel bad about it or whatever. 263 00:09:56,096 --> 00:09:57,429 Prisoner, inmate, 264 00:09:57,531 --> 00:10:00,231 sheriff, deputy, 265 00:10:00,334 --> 00:10:02,968 murderer, outlaw, whoever... 266 00:10:03,070 --> 00:10:04,002 What do you think of the people 267 00:10:04,104 --> 00:10:06,638 who take tours here every day? 268 00:10:08,141 --> 00:10:10,141 Let's listen here. 269 00:10:10,210 --> 00:10:11,943 [ static crackles ] 270 00:10:31,331 --> 00:10:33,398 [ static crackles ] 271 00:10:33,500 --> 00:10:35,333 what was that? 272 00:10:38,605 --> 00:10:40,305 "I'm not a murderer." 273 00:10:42,242 --> 00:10:44,576 next up, we have a question from dan. 274 00:10:44,678 --> 00:10:47,145 When you hear a voice that sounds demonic, 275 00:10:47,247 --> 00:10:50,148 does it change the way you do your investigations? 276 00:10:50,250 --> 00:10:52,317 I just think that whatever that voice is, 277 00:10:52,419 --> 00:10:53,885 they really wanted to say something. 278 00:10:53,987 --> 00:10:55,253 They had to get your attention. 279 00:10:55,355 --> 00:10:59,424 It is absolutely terrifying and frightening at times. 280 00:10:59,526 --> 00:11:01,893 But we have to keep our composure and focus. 281 00:11:01,995 --> 00:11:04,362 That's the first thing we came in, and we just said, 282 00:11:04,464 --> 00:11:06,364 "what do you need us to fix?" yeah, it says... 283 00:11:06,466 --> 00:11:07,899 "I'm not a murderer." ..."I'm not a murderer." 284 00:11:08,001 --> 00:11:10,135 what happened outside? Yeah. 285 00:11:10,237 --> 00:11:13,138 People were hung for murders. 286 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,674 Yeah. We don't know what they sound like where they are. 287 00:11:15,742 --> 00:11:18,943 And so if we assume that every scary voice is a demon, 288 00:11:19,046 --> 00:11:21,646 we could really be, you know, misidentifying these spirits. 289 00:11:21,748 --> 00:11:24,983 We want to make sure that we're as compassionate as possible 290 00:11:25,085 --> 00:11:27,185 until they prove us wrong, I guess, 291 00:11:27,287 --> 00:11:28,687 for lack of a better word. Yeah. Yeah. 292 00:11:28,789 --> 00:11:32,457 And when they prove us wrong, it can get ugly. 293 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:34,192 And there is a difference, right, 294 00:11:34,294 --> 00:11:36,528 I mean, between something of a demonic force 295 00:11:36,630 --> 00:11:39,597 and maybe just a frustrated, angry spirit, 296 00:11:39,700 --> 00:11:41,266 especially one that wants to be cleared 297 00:11:41,368 --> 00:11:44,302 of a crime that perhaps they didn't commit. 298 00:11:44,404 --> 00:11:46,271 Right. Exactly. And so, like in this case, 299 00:11:46,373 --> 00:11:48,773 if we had assumed they were something demonic or negative, 300 00:11:48,875 --> 00:11:50,308 we never would have been able to help them. 301 00:11:50,410 --> 00:11:53,411 So you kind of have to let that go out of your your mind 302 00:11:53,513 --> 00:11:56,047 for a minute and just imagine 303 00:11:56,149 --> 00:11:57,916 that there's someone who needs help. 304 00:11:58,018 --> 00:11:59,784 Absolutely. 305 00:11:59,886 --> 00:12:02,887 I just saw a shadow figure 306 00:12:02,989 --> 00:12:05,190 go in front of that. 307 00:12:05,292 --> 00:12:06,257 Oh, my god. 308 00:12:06,359 --> 00:12:08,760 I feel like my nose wants to bleed. 309 00:12:08,862 --> 00:12:09,961 Punch. 310 00:12:10,063 --> 00:12:11,930 Just a violent action. 311 00:12:13,867 --> 00:12:17,469 ♪♪ 312 00:12:17,571 --> 00:12:19,704 bruni: We're investigating the violent activity 313 00:12:19,806 --> 00:12:21,740 at st. Augustine's old jail, 314 00:12:21,842 --> 00:12:24,342 and I think we've just hit on why spirits here 315 00:12:24,444 --> 00:12:27,779 are aggressively trying to get the attention of the living. 316 00:12:27,881 --> 00:12:29,380 Can you say -- would you mind 317 00:12:29,483 --> 00:12:31,916 repeating that for us? Can you say that again? 318 00:12:32,018 --> 00:12:34,319 I don't... 319 00:12:34,421 --> 00:12:35,520 Want to say 320 00:12:35,622 --> 00:12:37,655 what I just saw on the floor. 321 00:12:37,758 --> 00:12:39,824 Wait, you saw something on the floor? 322 00:12:39,926 --> 00:12:40,825 Where? 323 00:12:40,927 --> 00:12:42,560 Right down there. 324 00:12:42,662 --> 00:12:44,863 But I literally saw something black 325 00:12:44,965 --> 00:12:47,065 just move across the floor here. 326 00:12:47,167 --> 00:12:49,100 It was literally -- it just moved. 327 00:12:49,202 --> 00:12:50,301 Like, it was probably about this big 328 00:12:50,403 --> 00:12:54,305 and just, like, moved across the floor like this. 329 00:12:54,407 --> 00:12:56,107 It had no, like, real shape to it. 330 00:12:56,209 --> 00:12:58,777 Weird. It just kind of went like this. 331 00:12:58,879 --> 00:13:00,411 I mean, that's what they described. 332 00:13:00,514 --> 00:13:01,513 He called it the crawler. 333 00:13:01,615 --> 00:13:03,381 I know, but I just didn't expect 334 00:13:03,483 --> 00:13:05,416 to see it, like, that clearly. 335 00:13:05,519 --> 00:13:07,819 I'm not even kidding. 336 00:13:07,921 --> 00:13:11,422 I just saw a shadow figure 337 00:13:11,525 --> 00:13:13,925 go in front of that, 338 00:13:14,027 --> 00:13:15,059 the light, 339 00:13:15,162 --> 00:13:16,728 the light right there, on the thing, 340 00:13:16,830 --> 00:13:18,897 whatever's coming through, on the bars. 341 00:13:18,999 --> 00:13:21,332 So, do you think that that was the crawler? 342 00:13:21,434 --> 00:13:23,902 And was it trying to communicate with you? 343 00:13:24,004 --> 00:13:25,603 I mean, I think we saw the crawler. 344 00:13:25,705 --> 00:13:28,072 And I think we saw it really quick in the investigation. 345 00:13:28,175 --> 00:13:29,574 Right here? Uh-huh. 346 00:13:29,676 --> 00:13:32,977 It's always great when we can, you know, correlate activity 347 00:13:33,079 --> 00:13:35,046 with what the client is experiencing. 348 00:13:35,148 --> 00:13:36,681 But in this case, that's one of those things 349 00:13:36,783 --> 00:13:39,217 you're not really sure you actually want to see it. 350 00:13:39,319 --> 00:13:42,253 It was like the two lights on this side, 351 00:13:42,355 --> 00:13:44,689 literally, just, like, three of them disappeared. 352 00:13:44,791 --> 00:13:46,257 Like something reached out, maybe? 353 00:13:46,359 --> 00:13:48,293 It was [snaps fingers] like that. 354 00:13:48,395 --> 00:13:50,328 It had direction. It had movement. 355 00:13:50,430 --> 00:13:53,798 And it looked exactly like what they described. 356 00:13:53,867 --> 00:13:57,202 It was darker than the actual dark. 357 00:13:57,304 --> 00:13:59,871 Somebody wants our attention, and it's got it. 358 00:13:59,973 --> 00:14:02,907 We were up there for, I don't know, 359 00:14:03,009 --> 00:14:05,910 less than 30 minutes, and it went crazy. 360 00:14:06,012 --> 00:14:08,680 Something was reaching out to us that said, "I'm not a murderer." 361 00:14:08,782 --> 00:14:11,082 we saw a weird shadow thing crawling on the ground. 362 00:14:11,184 --> 00:14:13,318 We saw a weird shadow thing in the jail. 363 00:14:13,420 --> 00:14:15,720 This thing moves around, whatever it is. 364 00:14:15,822 --> 00:14:16,988 You know, it's up to us to figure out 365 00:14:17,090 --> 00:14:19,557 what's actually going on. 366 00:14:19,659 --> 00:14:21,259 I don't know. 367 00:14:21,361 --> 00:14:24,929 Do we try this same area but downstairs, 368 00:14:25,031 --> 00:14:26,798 like, in the sheriff's office? 369 00:14:26,900 --> 00:14:28,466 Yes. 370 00:14:28,568 --> 00:14:30,735 Bruni: We had experience after experience. 371 00:14:30,837 --> 00:14:34,339 We got the very distinct evp of, "I am not a murderer." 372 00:14:34,441 --> 00:14:35,473 and, I mean, that's such 373 00:14:35,575 --> 00:14:37,742 a call to action for us. That's our mission. 374 00:14:37,844 --> 00:14:39,844 Now we have to figure out who this person is, 375 00:14:39,946 --> 00:14:42,080 why is it so important for them to get that message out, 376 00:14:42,182 --> 00:14:45,950 and how the hell are we going to fix this. 377 00:14:46,052 --> 00:14:49,487 Do you happen to know who is upstairs 378 00:14:49,589 --> 00:14:52,423 that feels they were wrongly accused? 379 00:14:52,525 --> 00:14:55,493 What was the sheriff's name when you were here? 380 00:14:55,595 --> 00:14:57,528 Who was the sheriff? 381 00:14:57,631 --> 00:14:59,130 Was he a good sheriff? 382 00:14:59,232 --> 00:15:02,467 ♪♪ 383 00:15:02,569 --> 00:15:03,935 [ static crackles ] 384 00:15:17,117 --> 00:15:18,049 [ static crackles loudly ] 385 00:15:18,151 --> 00:15:20,518 both: Ohh! 386 00:15:20,620 --> 00:15:23,354 That was a very distinct answer. Yeah. 387 00:15:23,456 --> 00:15:24,656 When you were here... 388 00:15:30,096 --> 00:15:31,195 Gah! 389 00:15:31,298 --> 00:15:32,997 I get chills every time I hear that. 390 00:15:33,099 --> 00:15:34,065 Every time. 391 00:15:34,167 --> 00:15:36,701 Well, ann asks, "what type of feeling 392 00:15:36,803 --> 00:15:40,838 does hearing a disembodied voice like that bring to you, amy?" 393 00:15:40,941 --> 00:15:43,441 I mean, in that case, it was just so crazy 394 00:15:43,543 --> 00:15:45,276 because upstairs, we have someone declaring 395 00:15:45,378 --> 00:15:48,179 they're not a murderer. And downstairs, we have someone 396 00:15:48,281 --> 00:15:51,249 clearly not happy with the sheriff. 397 00:15:51,351 --> 00:15:52,617 And we had heard some stories. 398 00:15:52,719 --> 00:15:55,453 And so at this point, we're like, "okay," you know, 399 00:15:55,555 --> 00:15:58,556 "is this voice something we need to be concerned about?" 400 00:15:58,658 --> 00:16:00,425 but, yeah, you hear something like that... 401 00:16:00,527 --> 00:16:02,327 [ static crackles ] oh! 402 00:16:02,429 --> 00:16:04,896 ...It's disconcerting, to say the least. 403 00:16:04,998 --> 00:16:11,202 ♪♪ 404 00:16:11,304 --> 00:16:12,737 no answers to anything 405 00:16:12,839 --> 00:16:15,039 until we asked if the sheriff was a good man, 406 00:16:15,141 --> 00:16:18,176 and there was a very distinct "no" to that one. 407 00:16:18,278 --> 00:16:19,243 No. Yeah. 408 00:16:19,346 --> 00:16:22,613 Whoever, whatever is slinking around -- 409 00:16:22,716 --> 00:16:25,350 and I don't know if that's a person -- 410 00:16:25,452 --> 00:16:27,452 right. "I am not a murderer." 411 00:16:27,554 --> 00:16:30,421 yeah, I mean, I feel like I really want to know who that is. 412 00:16:30,523 --> 00:16:31,456 I do, too. 413 00:16:31,558 --> 00:16:33,491 Do you feel like you're getting any closer 414 00:16:33,593 --> 00:16:36,361 to determining who the spirit is? 415 00:16:36,463 --> 00:16:38,930 I mean, I think it was very clear that this was someone 416 00:16:39,032 --> 00:16:42,967 who spent time in the prison as an inmate. 417 00:16:43,069 --> 00:16:45,570 I know that was actually still very daunting for us, though, 418 00:16:45,672 --> 00:16:48,706 because so many people spent time in that jail, 419 00:16:48,808 --> 00:16:51,175 but also, their record keeping was not great. 420 00:16:51,277 --> 00:16:54,278 So we knew we still had our work cut out for us. 421 00:16:54,381 --> 00:16:56,147 Yeah. The next step was to go out 422 00:16:56,249 --> 00:16:58,516 and really, really dig into the research. 423 00:16:58,618 --> 00:17:02,453 ♪♪ 424 00:17:02,555 --> 00:17:04,889 berry: With the evp that we caught, "I am not a murderer," 425 00:17:04,991 --> 00:17:07,191 I really want to find as much information as I possibly can 426 00:17:07,293 --> 00:17:09,227 on those that were incarcerated in the jail, 427 00:17:09,329 --> 00:17:10,828 those that might have been convicted of murder, 428 00:17:10,930 --> 00:17:13,798 those that were probably put to death. 429 00:17:13,900 --> 00:17:15,666 Hmm. 430 00:17:15,769 --> 00:17:17,635 So you have jim kirby and you have robert lee, 431 00:17:17,737 --> 00:17:20,238 who were both convicted of murder, 432 00:17:20,340 --> 00:17:23,107 and it seems like jim kirby 433 00:17:23,209 --> 00:17:26,044 said that robert had nothing to do with the murder, 434 00:17:26,146 --> 00:17:27,678 but they hung him anyway. 435 00:17:27,781 --> 00:17:29,047 And there's no... 436 00:17:29,149 --> 00:17:32,717 I can't find a robert lee in the intake records 437 00:17:32,819 --> 00:17:35,920 for crimes committed in -- 438 00:17:36,022 --> 00:17:39,390 during that time period, 1901, 1900. 439 00:17:39,492 --> 00:17:41,959 I don't see him listed. 440 00:17:42,062 --> 00:17:43,394 So I don't know if he was exonerated, 441 00:17:43,496 --> 00:17:45,463 or they just erased his file, or... 442 00:17:45,565 --> 00:17:48,699 It's bizarre, though, that they have no record of it. 443 00:17:48,802 --> 00:17:51,035 "lee was visibly agitated and showing that 444 00:17:51,137 --> 00:17:55,039 he was suffering mental agony." 445 00:17:55,141 --> 00:17:56,441 because he didn't do it. 446 00:17:56,543 --> 00:17:58,876 "hanging an innocent man," said lee, 447 00:17:58,978 --> 00:18:01,779 "I'm going to meet death bravely. 448 00:18:01,881 --> 00:18:03,948 I know the public believes I'm guilty 449 00:18:04,050 --> 00:18:05,550 and that I have been cursed and abused, 450 00:18:05,652 --> 00:18:11,155 but I am innocent, and you will learn such in the next world." 451 00:18:11,257 --> 00:18:12,356 that just gave me chills. 452 00:18:12,459 --> 00:18:13,858 That's really intense. 453 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:15,126 Tonight, when we investigate, 454 00:18:15,228 --> 00:18:20,231 we need to use jim kirby and robert lee for sure. 455 00:18:20,333 --> 00:18:23,501 I mean, especially if robert lee didn't do it, 456 00:18:23,603 --> 00:18:25,837 and he's the one trying to reach out to us. 457 00:18:25,939 --> 00:18:26,971 No record. He was, like, 458 00:18:27,073 --> 00:18:29,640 wiped off the face of the earth, basically. 459 00:18:29,776 --> 00:18:32,677 Well, it makes you a little bit more understanding 460 00:18:32,779 --> 00:18:34,712 of why this spirit would be so upset, 461 00:18:34,814 --> 00:18:38,149 if that's really the case, that he's been basically erased 462 00:18:38,251 --> 00:18:41,252 and was murdered for a crime he didn't commit. 463 00:18:41,354 --> 00:18:44,889 "I am innocent, and you will learn such in the next world." 464 00:18:44,991 --> 00:18:47,725 to actually curse the people that were doing it, 465 00:18:47,827 --> 00:18:49,894 saying, "you're gonna find out in the next world 466 00:18:49,996 --> 00:18:52,563 if not this one," is really, really insane. 467 00:18:52,665 --> 00:18:53,731 Actual words. 468 00:18:53,833 --> 00:18:55,833 Yeah, I can't think of a more classic example 469 00:18:55,935 --> 00:18:57,368 of unfinished business, 470 00:18:57,470 --> 00:19:00,238 like, something that would keep someone earthbound, 471 00:19:00,340 --> 00:19:03,307 something they want to make right. 472 00:19:03,409 --> 00:19:06,878 Let's welcome now to the show chip coffey. Chip, welcome. 473 00:19:06,980 --> 00:19:07,945 Thanks, dave. 474 00:19:08,047 --> 00:19:09,313 Hey, chip. 475 00:19:09,415 --> 00:19:11,883 Hi, chip. Hi, guys. Good to see you. 476 00:19:11,985 --> 00:19:14,819 ♪♪ 477 00:19:14,921 --> 00:19:16,754 berry: We're bringing chip into this investigation 478 00:19:16,856 --> 00:19:18,556 for a really specific reason. 479 00:19:18,658 --> 00:19:19,957 There we go. 480 00:19:20,059 --> 00:19:21,392 At this point, there are spirits here 481 00:19:21,494 --> 00:19:23,194 that live here all the time, 482 00:19:23,296 --> 00:19:25,930 and we have somebody obviously communicating with us. 483 00:19:26,032 --> 00:19:27,932 We think we have an idea of who's here. 484 00:19:28,034 --> 00:19:29,066 We know the circumstances 485 00:19:29,169 --> 00:19:32,136 surrounding the incident and the death, 486 00:19:32,238 --> 00:19:33,971 and maybe he can pinpoint into that. 487 00:19:36,142 --> 00:19:39,410 I feel like I'm walking the green mile, you guys. 488 00:19:39,479 --> 00:19:42,980 He does not know anything about our locations when he shows up. 489 00:19:43,082 --> 00:19:45,183 But in this case, we're actually going to blindfold him 490 00:19:45,285 --> 00:19:47,418 because once you pass through the doors, 491 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,153 it's clearly -- it's a jail. 492 00:19:49,255 --> 00:19:50,288 So we want to blindfold him. 493 00:19:50,390 --> 00:19:51,455 We want to bring him in 494 00:19:51,558 --> 00:19:53,524 just so that he is completely in the dark 495 00:19:53,626 --> 00:19:55,660 on everything, including visually, 496 00:19:55,795 --> 00:19:59,197 and seeing what kind of things come to him. 497 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,600 Schrader: Now, we have a comment from sara. 498 00:20:02,702 --> 00:20:04,602 "it's crazy how you said you feel like 499 00:20:04,704 --> 00:20:07,071 you were walking the green mile." 500 00:20:07,173 --> 00:20:09,974 chip, what were you sensing as you entered? 501 00:20:10,076 --> 00:20:11,976 It was crazy. I just somehow knew 502 00:20:12,078 --> 00:20:16,380 that where I was at had something to do with prisoners 503 00:20:16,482 --> 00:20:20,651 or people that had been incarcerated. 504 00:20:20,753 --> 00:20:23,120 It was the most bizarre feeling. 505 00:20:23,223 --> 00:20:25,723 Is that ever overwhelming to you? Do you ever get visions 506 00:20:25,825 --> 00:20:28,626 of this or flashes before you even get in a car 507 00:20:28,728 --> 00:20:31,696 to head towards where the location is? 508 00:20:31,798 --> 00:20:34,265 Sometimes I will get visions or information 509 00:20:34,367 --> 00:20:36,968 before I head to a location. 510 00:20:37,070 --> 00:20:39,403 I'm always excited when that information is verified 511 00:20:39,505 --> 00:20:42,673 once I get with amy and adam. 512 00:20:42,775 --> 00:20:44,375 Stop right here. 513 00:20:44,477 --> 00:20:46,110 Stop right here for a second. 514 00:20:48,348 --> 00:20:52,250 I feel like my nose wants to bleed. 515 00:20:52,352 --> 00:20:53,284 Someone hit me. 516 00:20:53,386 --> 00:20:57,822 ♪♪ 517 00:20:57,924 --> 00:21:01,192 like punch, punch... 518 00:21:01,261 --> 00:21:07,365 ♪♪ 519 00:21:07,467 --> 00:21:09,367 in those moments, chip, 520 00:21:09,502 --> 00:21:11,836 are you reliving what was happening to someone there, 521 00:21:11,938 --> 00:21:14,505 or are the spirits physically rushing you 522 00:21:14,607 --> 00:21:17,541 and physically attacking you? 523 00:21:17,644 --> 00:21:20,511 The simple answer to that question is yes to both. 524 00:21:20,613 --> 00:21:22,913 Someone hit me. Punch. 525 00:21:23,016 --> 00:21:25,349 I was actually experiencing at that point 526 00:21:25,451 --> 00:21:27,451 the physical violence 527 00:21:27,553 --> 00:21:30,655 that was inflicted on the people in that facility. 528 00:21:30,757 --> 00:21:32,156 And it was heartbreaking. 529 00:21:32,258 --> 00:21:34,225 Yeah. There was a lot, for sure. 530 00:21:34,327 --> 00:21:35,593 Hard to watch. 531 00:21:35,695 --> 00:21:37,495 I feel like my nose wants to bleed. 532 00:21:37,597 --> 00:21:41,465 Even watching it back, I was covered in cold chills 533 00:21:41,567 --> 00:21:43,534 and felt the emotion that we all felt there. 534 00:21:43,636 --> 00:21:45,970 It was -- it was devastating. 535 00:21:46,072 --> 00:21:48,039 ♪♪ 536 00:21:48,141 --> 00:21:50,541 got it? Okay, good. All right. 537 00:21:50,643 --> 00:21:54,078 Just have a seat here for a second and... 538 00:21:54,180 --> 00:21:58,816 ♪♪ 539 00:21:58,918 --> 00:22:02,019 no. 540 00:22:02,121 --> 00:22:04,588 Whoever I'm picking up says, 541 00:22:04,691 --> 00:22:07,758 "I just don't give a damn anymore, 542 00:22:07,860 --> 00:22:09,393 no need to even try." 543 00:22:09,495 --> 00:22:13,664 ♪♪ 544 00:22:13,766 --> 00:22:15,800 we're just going to step out of this space for a second. 545 00:22:15,902 --> 00:22:22,006 ♪♪ 546 00:22:22,108 --> 00:22:23,107 it's horrible. 547 00:22:23,242 --> 00:22:25,843 [ sniffles, cries ] 548 00:22:25,945 --> 00:22:28,979 ♪♪ 549 00:22:29,082 --> 00:22:32,483 just hopeless. 550 00:22:32,585 --> 00:22:38,522 ♪♪ 551 00:22:38,624 --> 00:22:41,258 I still get teary when I watch that. 552 00:22:41,361 --> 00:22:45,363 I don't feel like there's any reason to even... 553 00:22:45,465 --> 00:22:47,031 Exist. 554 00:22:47,133 --> 00:22:48,566 -Okay. -No. 555 00:22:51,871 --> 00:22:55,406 ♪♪ 556 00:22:55,508 --> 00:22:56,974 berry: We're in st. Augustine's old jail 557 00:22:57,076 --> 00:22:58,576 trying to make contact with an entity 558 00:22:58,678 --> 00:23:00,811 that told us it's not a murderer. 559 00:23:00,913 --> 00:23:01,946 We've locked chip coffey 560 00:23:02,048 --> 00:23:03,814 into the jail's most vulnerable spot -- 561 00:23:03,916 --> 00:23:05,416 solitary confinement. 562 00:23:05,518 --> 00:23:07,685 As much as it pains us to watch him suffer, 563 00:23:07,787 --> 00:23:10,154 we think we're making an important connection. 564 00:23:10,256 --> 00:23:11,622 It's horrible. 565 00:23:11,724 --> 00:23:13,758 [ sniffles, cries ] 566 00:23:13,860 --> 00:23:18,062 ♪♪ 567 00:23:18,164 --> 00:23:20,965 just hopeless. 568 00:23:21,067 --> 00:23:24,268 ♪♪ 569 00:23:24,370 --> 00:23:28,472 it comes in waves. It's like you don't feel like there's any -- 570 00:23:28,574 --> 00:23:32,643 you don't feel like there's any reason to even... 571 00:23:32,745 --> 00:23:34,111 Exist. 572 00:23:36,349 --> 00:23:40,151 And anger and frustration. 573 00:23:42,155 --> 00:23:44,355 A name that comes into my head is james. 574 00:23:44,457 --> 00:23:46,424 James. 575 00:23:46,526 --> 00:23:48,058 Ugh. 576 00:23:48,161 --> 00:23:50,494 I still get teary when I watch that. 577 00:23:50,596 --> 00:23:53,297 Right. It's a devastating moment, chip. 578 00:23:53,399 --> 00:23:55,766 And you're still blindfolded, 579 00:23:55,868 --> 00:23:59,570 but you're feeling all of this emotion and sadness. 580 00:23:59,672 --> 00:24:00,871 It's horrible. 581 00:24:00,973 --> 00:24:03,741 Schrader: For those of us that don't have those abilities, 582 00:24:03,843 --> 00:24:05,743 talk to me about what that feels like to you. 583 00:24:05,845 --> 00:24:09,013 I called it a mini nervous breakdown 584 00:24:09,115 --> 00:24:13,083 that I had in that isolation cell. 585 00:24:13,186 --> 00:24:15,686 It was -- 586 00:24:15,788 --> 00:24:17,688 there -- words just can't describe 587 00:24:17,790 --> 00:24:20,791 how sad and desperate 588 00:24:20,893 --> 00:24:24,128 and overwhelmed I felt in that space. 589 00:24:24,230 --> 00:24:27,598 It was horrible. 590 00:24:27,700 --> 00:24:30,935 Vickie asks, "what was going through your minds 591 00:24:31,037 --> 00:24:33,671 when chip reacted the way that he did?" 592 00:24:33,773 --> 00:24:35,072 it was incredibly hard to watch. 593 00:24:35,174 --> 00:24:37,007 You know, I don't even really re-watch it 594 00:24:37,109 --> 00:24:38,843 when the episode airs. 595 00:24:38,945 --> 00:24:41,545 Like, this is the first time I've really looked at it since 596 00:24:41,647 --> 00:24:44,148 because it was so painful. But it was hard. 597 00:24:44,250 --> 00:24:45,782 I wanted to just hug him. 598 00:24:45,852 --> 00:24:48,385 Chip, I hate this. 599 00:24:48,488 --> 00:24:50,187 Yeah. It's okay. 600 00:24:50,289 --> 00:24:52,323 Yeah. But then he said, "james." 601 00:24:52,425 --> 00:24:55,659 and that to me was worth -- 602 00:24:55,761 --> 00:24:59,296 you know, hopefully worth it, because we got an answer. 603 00:24:59,398 --> 00:25:01,632 [ crying ] I don't even want to open my eyes. 604 00:25:01,734 --> 00:25:06,637 ♪♪ 605 00:25:06,739 --> 00:25:07,771 where is this? 606 00:25:07,874 --> 00:25:10,808 Solitary confinement. 607 00:25:10,910 --> 00:25:12,710 Sorry. No, I -- 608 00:25:12,812 --> 00:25:15,479 chip, I hate this. 609 00:25:15,581 --> 00:25:17,114 Yeah. It's okay. 610 00:25:18,417 --> 00:25:23,153 There's someone in here who's reaching out to people. 611 00:25:24,223 --> 00:25:26,524 Our next question comes from stephanie. 612 00:25:26,626 --> 00:25:30,227 I was completely wrecked. Watching you break down. 613 00:25:30,329 --> 00:25:36,567 How do you recover from such an emotional experience? 614 00:25:36,669 --> 00:25:38,569 I knew I had a job to do. 615 00:25:38,671 --> 00:25:40,638 I did my job, 616 00:25:40,740 --> 00:25:42,806 and I tried my best to just push it aside, 617 00:25:42,909 --> 00:25:46,410 because if I'd held onto it, 618 00:25:46,512 --> 00:25:50,014 I don't know how it might have affected me. 619 00:25:50,116 --> 00:25:54,552 There's someone in here who's reaching out to people. 620 00:25:54,654 --> 00:25:56,220 Do you have to do special things 621 00:25:56,322 --> 00:25:59,523 after a moment like that, chip, to clear yourself 622 00:25:59,625 --> 00:26:01,492 so that you're not carrying that emotion around 623 00:26:01,594 --> 00:26:04,295 for the rest of the day? 624 00:26:04,397 --> 00:26:08,065 As silly as this may sound, I just kind of walk it off. 625 00:26:14,407 --> 00:26:16,674 Did they execute people here? 626 00:26:16,776 --> 00:26:18,809 Yes. 627 00:26:18,911 --> 00:26:21,011 How did they execute people here? 628 00:26:21,113 --> 00:26:22,680 Gallows. 629 00:26:22,782 --> 00:26:26,884 ♪♪ 630 00:26:26,986 --> 00:26:28,719 they would make... 631 00:26:28,821 --> 00:26:29,920 Oh, my god. 632 00:26:30,022 --> 00:26:32,256 They would make the inmates build their own. 633 00:26:32,358 --> 00:26:34,291 -Their own? -Mm-hmm. 634 00:26:34,393 --> 00:26:35,993 -That makes me sick. -Yeah. 635 00:26:37,163 --> 00:26:41,031 Any, like, name specifics or actions 636 00:26:41,133 --> 00:26:43,133 or causes of incarceration? 637 00:26:44,870 --> 00:26:46,570 There was someone who came through for us 638 00:26:46,672 --> 00:26:48,806 really clearly last night when we were investigating. 639 00:26:48,908 --> 00:26:50,874 We got a pretty strong evp 640 00:26:50,977 --> 00:26:52,643 that said, "I'm not a murderer." 641 00:26:52,745 --> 00:26:54,278 try the james thing. 642 00:26:54,380 --> 00:26:56,981 James, jim kirby, 643 00:26:57,083 --> 00:26:59,216 was sentenced to death for murder 644 00:26:59,318 --> 00:27:00,985 along with robert lee. 645 00:27:01,087 --> 00:27:02,486 They were hung on the gallows. 646 00:27:02,588 --> 00:27:05,556 James said multiple times 647 00:27:05,658 --> 00:27:07,691 that robert lee was innocent, 648 00:27:07,793 --> 00:27:09,627 and they hung him anyway, 649 00:27:09,729 --> 00:27:12,363 and robert lee said his innocence 650 00:27:12,465 --> 00:27:14,365 will come to light in the next life. 651 00:27:14,467 --> 00:27:15,833 So, it was robert lee. 652 00:27:15,935 --> 00:27:17,134 That was robert lee who said that. 653 00:27:17,236 --> 00:27:20,270 I had chills -- 100%, to a reporter, said, 654 00:27:20,373 --> 00:27:23,374 "my innocence will be made to light in the next life." 655 00:27:23,476 --> 00:27:25,743 you just got the next step in your process. 656 00:27:25,845 --> 00:27:28,145 Amy and adam, what is it like when chip 657 00:27:28,247 --> 00:27:29,980 becomes this conduit to the other side 658 00:27:30,082 --> 00:27:33,984 and suddenly starts bringing these loose ends together? 659 00:27:34,086 --> 00:27:37,287 I mean, chip is part of what we call our perfect trifecta. 660 00:27:37,390 --> 00:27:41,759 So when we have, like, evidence plus research plus chip 661 00:27:41,861 --> 00:27:43,193 all coming together, 662 00:27:43,295 --> 00:27:45,629 we know we are onto something huge. 663 00:27:45,731 --> 00:27:47,531 And so this was one of those moments, 664 00:27:47,633 --> 00:27:49,266 and we love when that happens. 665 00:27:49,368 --> 00:27:51,835 Yeah. You know, we just have to keep digging. 666 00:27:51,937 --> 00:27:54,238 We have to keep going. And so we went back that night 667 00:27:54,340 --> 00:27:58,175 and did another evp session, and this is what we got. 668 00:28:11,824 --> 00:28:12,956 [ static crackles ] 669 00:28:13,059 --> 00:28:14,892 oh, my god. 670 00:28:14,994 --> 00:28:19,296 ♪♪ 671 00:28:19,398 --> 00:28:20,898 [ static crackles, pops ] 672 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,434 "help me." 673 00:28:23,536 --> 00:28:26,403 that's [bleep] up. 674 00:28:26,505 --> 00:28:28,105 Remember, you said that the truth 675 00:28:28,207 --> 00:28:30,941 would come to light in the next life. 676 00:28:31,077 --> 00:28:32,943 Robert, this is your chance. 677 00:28:33,045 --> 00:28:35,979 [ beeps ] 678 00:28:36,082 --> 00:28:37,414 that hasn't done that. 679 00:28:39,752 --> 00:28:46,356 ♪♪ 680 00:28:46,459 --> 00:28:48,292 berry: We're at the old jail in st. Augustine, 681 00:28:48,394 --> 00:28:50,694 where employees are being punched and pushed down steps. 682 00:28:50,796 --> 00:28:52,162 Bruni: What happened in here? 683 00:28:52,264 --> 00:28:53,263 [ static crackles, pops ] 684 00:28:53,365 --> 00:28:54,832 oh, my god. 685 00:28:54,934 --> 00:28:57,735 Someone just reached out, begging for help. 686 00:28:57,837 --> 00:28:59,136 "help me." 687 00:28:59,238 --> 00:29:00,738 could this be the same entity 688 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,240 that told us they weren't a murderer? 689 00:29:03,309 --> 00:29:07,211 That was such a distinct evp. 690 00:29:07,313 --> 00:29:09,880 Oh, god. 691 00:29:09,982 --> 00:29:11,215 How can we help you? 692 00:29:11,317 --> 00:29:14,184 We have to know how to help you. 693 00:29:14,286 --> 00:29:17,755 Why have you chosen to remain here? 694 00:29:17,857 --> 00:29:20,557 ♪♪ 695 00:29:20,659 --> 00:29:22,493 do you want your story told? 696 00:29:22,595 --> 00:29:25,095 ♪♪ 697 00:29:25,197 --> 00:29:27,898 why do you think it just stopped communicating? 698 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,100 I think that whoever's in that space, 699 00:29:30,202 --> 00:29:33,370 what they went through, they're not exactly trusting. 700 00:29:33,472 --> 00:29:35,305 You know, I think they gave us a couple answers, 701 00:29:35,407 --> 00:29:37,508 and then they backed off, with good reason. 702 00:29:37,610 --> 00:29:39,042 You know, who are we? We just walk in 703 00:29:39,145 --> 00:29:41,445 and we start asking these hard questions. 704 00:29:41,547 --> 00:29:43,647 We decided to head back downstairs 705 00:29:43,749 --> 00:29:45,849 where we last connected. 706 00:29:45,951 --> 00:29:51,555 So, we'll put that here. [ device beeps ] 707 00:29:51,657 --> 00:29:53,557 berry: So, we're going to go back to the deputies' quarters 708 00:29:53,659 --> 00:29:55,359 where we got the evp. 709 00:29:55,461 --> 00:29:57,861 I have the sls in case the crawler comes back. 710 00:29:57,963 --> 00:30:01,331 It can map out anomalies, making it easier for us to see. 711 00:30:01,433 --> 00:30:04,701 ♪♪ 712 00:30:04,770 --> 00:30:08,138 we heard someone declare they are not a murderer. 713 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,641 That sounds an awful lot like the case 714 00:30:10,743 --> 00:30:15,746 with robert lee and jim kirby. 715 00:30:15,848 --> 00:30:17,881 Is that what you're referring to? 716 00:30:20,352 --> 00:30:24,021 Robert, this is your chance. 717 00:30:24,123 --> 00:30:25,222 Remember, you said that 718 00:30:25,324 --> 00:30:28,559 the truth would come to life 719 00:30:28,661 --> 00:30:32,129 in the next life. 720 00:30:32,231 --> 00:30:33,564 We're here to fix it. 721 00:30:33,666 --> 00:30:36,900 We want the world to know what really happened. 722 00:30:38,704 --> 00:30:40,904 But you have to talk to us. 723 00:30:43,342 --> 00:30:45,209 Robert, are you here with us? 724 00:30:45,311 --> 00:30:49,213 ♪♪ 725 00:30:49,315 --> 00:30:51,148 alright. I'm going to play this back. 726 00:31:11,270 --> 00:31:13,737 Hmm. 727 00:31:13,839 --> 00:31:14,771 Quiet. 728 00:31:14,874 --> 00:31:16,506 Why isn't he talking to you? 729 00:31:16,609 --> 00:31:18,375 Yeah. It's frustrating as an investigator 730 00:31:18,444 --> 00:31:19,810 because you get to a certain point, 731 00:31:19,912 --> 00:31:21,612 and you think you're almost there, 732 00:31:21,714 --> 00:31:25,949 and it shuts down, almost like as if to say, 733 00:31:26,051 --> 00:31:27,651 "I told you what I want. Now do it." 734 00:31:27,753 --> 00:31:29,620 but we're like, "well, what is it exactly?" 735 00:31:29,722 --> 00:31:31,989 you know, we don't really know yet. 736 00:31:32,091 --> 00:31:34,458 Damn it. 737 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,026 He does not want to talk to us tonight. 738 00:31:36,128 --> 00:31:38,795 Are there these brief windows, 739 00:31:38,898 --> 00:31:41,498 these portals when they're able to be heard? 740 00:31:41,567 --> 00:31:45,102 And if you just happen to be there at the moment that aligns, 741 00:31:45,204 --> 00:31:47,137 it gives you that burst. 742 00:31:47,239 --> 00:31:49,339 Sometimes that's all you'll ever get. 743 00:31:49,441 --> 00:31:51,241 I mean, it could be that, you know, 744 00:31:51,343 --> 00:31:54,211 it's just like a person. Maybe sometimes they're there. 745 00:31:54,313 --> 00:31:55,579 Maybe it's sometimes they're home, 746 00:31:55,681 --> 00:31:58,048 and maybe sometimes they're not, so... 747 00:31:58,150 --> 00:32:00,117 Or this is just the ghosts' way of saying, 748 00:32:00,219 --> 00:32:01,585 "just go ahead and text me." 749 00:32:01,687 --> 00:32:03,020 e-mail. Just e-mail. 750 00:32:03,122 --> 00:32:05,355 [ laughs ] 751 00:32:05,457 --> 00:32:08,458 do you want emmanuel to come in here? 752 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,127 [ beeps ] 753 00:32:10,229 --> 00:32:13,063 ♪♪ 754 00:32:13,165 --> 00:32:14,765 huh. 755 00:32:14,867 --> 00:32:16,433 That hasn't done that. 756 00:32:18,604 --> 00:32:19,569 Okay. 757 00:32:19,672 --> 00:32:21,238 You know emmanuel was here, 758 00:32:21,340 --> 00:32:23,473 and stephen was here with us yesterday, and -- 759 00:32:23,575 --> 00:32:24,908 [ beeps ] 760 00:32:25,010 --> 00:32:27,477 that's twice, though, things have gone off 761 00:32:27,579 --> 00:32:29,713 at the mention of emmanuel, so... 762 00:32:29,815 --> 00:32:30,847 Exactly. 763 00:32:30,950 --> 00:32:31,915 [ beeps ] 764 00:32:32,017 --> 00:32:34,051 ♪♪ 765 00:32:34,153 --> 00:32:35,686 obviously, the spirits have spoken. 766 00:32:35,788 --> 00:32:37,521 They're probably familiar with these people 767 00:32:37,623 --> 00:32:39,056 that are around all the time, as well. 768 00:32:39,158 --> 00:32:40,924 So that's really no surprise 769 00:32:41,026 --> 00:32:45,595 that they may feel akin to somebody that is there. 770 00:32:45,698 --> 00:32:48,265 Emmanuel: I want to introduce you to my friends. 771 00:32:48,367 --> 00:32:50,701 They're here to tell your story. 772 00:32:50,803 --> 00:32:54,304 He made it a habit to go in and talk to them by himself, 773 00:32:54,406 --> 00:32:55,939 you know, before or after his shift. 774 00:32:56,041 --> 00:32:58,909 So he was a very familiar figure to them. 775 00:32:59,011 --> 00:33:00,811 So it makes sense that, you know, 776 00:33:00,913 --> 00:33:02,479 he might be someone we need to bring in. 777 00:33:02,581 --> 00:33:03,947 We brought him here to show you 778 00:33:04,049 --> 00:33:06,316 that you can talk to us tonight, okay? 779 00:33:06,418 --> 00:33:09,152 He's become a living trigger object. 780 00:33:09,254 --> 00:33:10,187 Right. 781 00:33:10,289 --> 00:33:11,421 We kind of feel like maybe 782 00:33:11,523 --> 00:33:13,724 they just don't entirely trust us yet. 783 00:33:13,826 --> 00:33:15,525 And they already have a rapport with you. 784 00:33:16,662 --> 00:33:17,894 [ crash ] 785 00:33:19,498 --> 00:33:22,366 I just heard something really loud drop right here. 786 00:33:26,805 --> 00:33:31,108 ♪♪ 787 00:33:31,210 --> 00:33:32,642 berry: We've been waiting at the old jail 788 00:33:32,745 --> 00:33:33,910 in st. Augustine, florida, 789 00:33:34,013 --> 00:33:36,046 hoping to experience some of the strange 790 00:33:36,148 --> 00:33:39,182 and violent paranormal encounters people have had here. 791 00:33:39,284 --> 00:33:41,885 He does not want to talk to us tonight. 792 00:33:41,987 --> 00:33:43,420 No, and I'm -- 793 00:33:43,522 --> 00:33:45,055 but our investigation has been quiet 794 00:33:45,157 --> 00:33:46,656 until we mentioned emmanuel, 795 00:33:46,759 --> 00:33:48,025 one of the jail's employees. 796 00:33:48,127 --> 00:33:50,160 Do you want emmanuel to come in here? 797 00:33:51,196 --> 00:33:52,896 [ beeps ] 798 00:33:54,533 --> 00:33:55,632 we bring him in in the beginning. 799 00:33:55,734 --> 00:33:57,501 We'll have him walk us through. 800 00:33:57,603 --> 00:33:59,336 Just, like, give, like, kind of, like, a, 801 00:33:59,438 --> 00:34:01,104 "these are my friends. You can talk to them. 802 00:34:01,206 --> 00:34:03,707 They want to help. I vouch for them." 803 00:34:03,809 --> 00:34:06,276 right. It's like we need to reboot the investigation. 804 00:34:06,378 --> 00:34:08,145 Yeah. Like, I feel like 805 00:34:08,247 --> 00:34:09,946 tonight we just kind of waltzed in here 806 00:34:10,049 --> 00:34:12,516 and thought we owned the place, and it shot us down. 807 00:34:12,618 --> 00:34:14,551 [ beeps ] 808 00:34:14,653 --> 00:34:16,520 -yeah, true. -Okay, we got it. 809 00:34:16,622 --> 00:34:18,822 -That's so bizarre. -Message received. 810 00:34:18,924 --> 00:34:25,395 ♪♪ 811 00:34:25,497 --> 00:34:27,431 berry: We brought in emmanuel because he works here, 812 00:34:27,533 --> 00:34:29,733 and he has a lot of activity that happens to him, 813 00:34:29,835 --> 00:34:32,269 and the purpose of him introducing us to them 814 00:34:32,371 --> 00:34:34,771 is to make sure that they understand 815 00:34:34,873 --> 00:34:37,207 that we don't mean them any harm. 816 00:34:37,309 --> 00:34:38,442 We kind of feel like maybe 817 00:34:38,544 --> 00:34:40,710 they just don't entirely trust us yet, 818 00:34:40,813 --> 00:34:42,612 and they already have a rapport with you, 819 00:34:42,714 --> 00:34:44,848 so we were hoping maybe you could kind of 820 00:34:44,950 --> 00:34:47,284 walk through the jail with us 821 00:34:47,386 --> 00:34:51,054 and really just truly implore them to talk to us. 822 00:34:51,156 --> 00:34:52,155 You're here to tell their story. 823 00:34:52,257 --> 00:34:54,024 -Exactly. -Yeah, I can do that. 824 00:34:54,126 --> 00:34:58,128 ♪♪ 825 00:34:58,230 --> 00:35:01,031 I want to introduce you to my friends. 826 00:35:01,133 --> 00:35:03,600 They're here to tell your story. 827 00:35:03,702 --> 00:35:07,037 We know you have been shy before. 828 00:35:07,139 --> 00:35:09,606 What can we do to help you? 829 00:35:10,742 --> 00:35:12,142 Michael has a question now. 830 00:35:12,244 --> 00:35:13,410 You are so respectful. 831 00:35:13,512 --> 00:35:14,845 When do you think is the right time 832 00:35:14,947 --> 00:35:16,746 to provoke a spirit to communicate? 833 00:35:16,849 --> 00:35:18,582 If we start to get an idea of who the person is 834 00:35:18,684 --> 00:35:20,317 and we know more about their personality, 835 00:35:20,419 --> 00:35:23,153 and we think that maybe being a little more abrasive 836 00:35:23,255 --> 00:35:26,156 would be appropriate, then we'll go down that path. 837 00:35:26,258 --> 00:35:27,457 But it's definitely something 838 00:35:27,559 --> 00:35:31,194 that we really think about before we go there. 839 00:35:31,296 --> 00:35:33,663 Yeah, and if they start scratching us or poking us, 840 00:35:33,765 --> 00:35:36,266 all bets are off. 841 00:35:36,368 --> 00:35:38,835 Berry: This case is interesting because we kind of have a grasp 842 00:35:38,937 --> 00:35:40,237 on what we think is happening. 843 00:35:40,339 --> 00:35:43,440 The one person that we know that is not a murderer is robert lee. 844 00:35:43,542 --> 00:35:46,076 And in order to confirm that, we need a name. 845 00:35:46,178 --> 00:35:49,045 We need some sort of solid evidence 846 00:35:49,148 --> 00:35:50,881 that points us right to the person 847 00:35:50,983 --> 00:35:52,749 who we think is innocent. 848 00:35:52,851 --> 00:35:54,885 We're genuinely here just to talk to you 849 00:35:54,987 --> 00:35:56,820 and get to know you. 850 00:35:56,922 --> 00:36:00,390 And so we brought you some bourbon, 851 00:36:00,492 --> 00:36:02,993 and we brought you some cigars. 852 00:36:03,095 --> 00:36:05,295 Amy and I like to use different kinds of trigger objects 853 00:36:05,397 --> 00:36:07,297 so that we can present it to them and say, 854 00:36:07,399 --> 00:36:08,665 "hey, guys, look, this is for you. 855 00:36:08,767 --> 00:36:10,233 We are here to talk to you. 856 00:36:10,335 --> 00:36:12,335 Open up to us, if you will," you know? 857 00:36:12,437 --> 00:36:14,371 ♪♪ 858 00:36:14,473 --> 00:36:16,039 I know you're down here. 859 00:36:16,141 --> 00:36:19,910 Do you know who jim kirby is? 860 00:36:22,447 --> 00:36:25,248 Do you know who robert lee is? 861 00:36:25,350 --> 00:36:28,818 ♪♪ 862 00:36:28,921 --> 00:36:30,353 we're trying to figure out 863 00:36:30,489 --> 00:36:32,322 if it's robert lee who's here, 864 00:36:32,424 --> 00:36:34,791 who told us he's not a murderer. 865 00:36:34,893 --> 00:36:38,962 We know that you died on-site here. 866 00:36:41,233 --> 00:36:43,200 Alright. Let's play it back. 867 00:36:43,302 --> 00:36:44,768 This first one. 868 00:36:53,845 --> 00:36:55,045 [ crash ] 869 00:36:59,084 --> 00:37:01,785 I just heard something really loud drop, right here. 870 00:37:01,887 --> 00:37:03,987 Here, who told us he's not a murderer. [ crash ] 871 00:37:04,089 --> 00:37:08,225 ♪♪ 872 00:37:08,327 --> 00:37:09,960 who just whispered? 873 00:37:10,062 --> 00:37:10,994 I heard that, that [whooshes] 874 00:37:11,096 --> 00:37:12,529 who just whispered? 875 00:37:12,631 --> 00:37:17,867 ♪♪ 876 00:37:17,970 --> 00:37:19,869 I'm in here by myself now. 877 00:37:19,972 --> 00:37:22,505 Do you know who robert lee is? 878 00:37:23,976 --> 00:37:26,276 Did you hear that? 879 00:37:28,347 --> 00:37:33,617 ♪♪ 880 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,418 berry: We're back investigating the old jail, 881 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,587 and a former inmate who's been physically aggressive 882 00:37:37,689 --> 00:37:40,824 with guests and employees is making contact. 883 00:37:40,926 --> 00:37:44,594 ♪♪ 884 00:37:44,696 --> 00:37:46,162 who just whispered? 885 00:37:46,265 --> 00:37:47,197 I heard that, that [whooshes] 886 00:37:47,299 --> 00:37:48,465 who just whispered? 887 00:37:48,567 --> 00:37:50,000 I heard it right here, though. 888 00:37:50,102 --> 00:37:52,669 ♪♪ 889 00:37:52,771 --> 00:37:55,438 I legit heard, like, a whisper. 890 00:37:55,540 --> 00:37:56,706 I heard it in there. 891 00:37:56,808 --> 00:37:59,609 So it had to have been in this general vicinity. 892 00:37:59,711 --> 00:38:01,111 How do you know if you're communicating 893 00:38:01,213 --> 00:38:04,447 with robert lee or john doe? 894 00:38:04,549 --> 00:38:06,850 All you need to do is just say a few words 895 00:38:06,952 --> 00:38:09,252 so we are sure it's you, and that's it. 896 00:38:09,354 --> 00:38:11,154 So, the evidence for us was pretty clear. 897 00:38:11,256 --> 00:38:13,423 We got a reaction when we talked about the warden. 898 00:38:13,525 --> 00:38:15,792 We looked up the dates that he was active in the prison. 899 00:38:15,894 --> 00:38:18,261 We looked up those who were hanged on the gallows. 900 00:38:18,363 --> 00:38:20,497 And robert lee was the one that was missing, 901 00:38:20,599 --> 00:38:22,332 and he was the one that was innocent, 902 00:38:22,434 --> 00:38:25,835 like, actively factually innocent. 903 00:38:25,937 --> 00:38:27,704 And we got reaction to that when we asked about it. 904 00:38:27,806 --> 00:38:30,140 So I think we were definitely on the right track. 905 00:38:30,242 --> 00:38:31,274 It was a disembodied voice. 906 00:38:31,376 --> 00:38:33,877 I hate disembodied voices. 907 00:38:33,979 --> 00:38:35,312 What if they wanted me to go in here 908 00:38:35,414 --> 00:38:37,947 to get close to you? 909 00:38:38,050 --> 00:38:39,749 Okay. 910 00:38:39,851 --> 00:38:41,217 Get out. 911 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:42,886 [ beeping ] let's do this. 912 00:38:42,988 --> 00:38:45,155 Come here, sit with me. 913 00:38:45,257 --> 00:38:46,956 These guys are going to leave. 914 00:38:47,059 --> 00:38:48,858 Don't go too far, though, because I'm really creeped out. 915 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,327 No, no, no, it's okay. 916 00:38:52,130 --> 00:38:54,798 I'm in here by myself now. 917 00:38:54,900 --> 00:38:58,168 So, again, this red light... 918 00:38:58,270 --> 00:38:59,636 Is that you? 919 00:39:01,907 --> 00:39:02,939 Did you hear that? 920 00:39:03,041 --> 00:39:04,240 Berry: Yeah, I heard it on this other side. 921 00:39:04,343 --> 00:39:05,642 Hold on. Let me... I'm going to -- you know what? 922 00:39:05,744 --> 00:39:07,310 You keep going. I'm going to circle around. 923 00:39:07,412 --> 00:39:08,345 Okay. 924 00:39:08,447 --> 00:39:11,181 Do you know who robert lee is? 925 00:39:11,283 --> 00:39:15,585 Do you want everyone to know that you were wronged? 926 00:39:15,687 --> 00:39:18,655 If we tell the world that you were innocent, 927 00:39:18,757 --> 00:39:20,924 will you leave this place and move on 928 00:39:21,026 --> 00:39:24,427 to where you're supposed to be? 929 00:39:24,529 --> 00:39:26,930 All you need to do is just say a few words 930 00:39:27,032 --> 00:39:29,699 so we're sure it's you, and that's it. 931 00:39:29,801 --> 00:39:31,267 We'll tell everyone. 932 00:39:31,370 --> 00:39:33,536 Alright. I'm going to listen back to this, and then... 933 00:39:33,638 --> 00:39:34,904 [ sighs ] 934 00:39:39,644 --> 00:39:40,643 lee! Lee! 935 00:39:40,746 --> 00:39:42,278 Is that -- lee! 936 00:39:42,381 --> 00:39:43,480 He says lee. 937 00:39:43,582 --> 00:39:45,448 [ static crackles ] ooh! 938 00:39:49,521 --> 00:39:50,453 Mmm. 939 00:39:50,555 --> 00:39:51,488 Is that yes? 940 00:39:51,590 --> 00:39:53,089 It's a yes. 941 00:40:09,074 --> 00:40:10,473 [ static crackles ] 942 00:40:10,575 --> 00:40:11,941 both: "tell them." 943 00:40:16,815 --> 00:40:18,615 "tell them." yeah. 944 00:40:20,352 --> 00:40:21,851 Wow. Well, that worked. 945 00:40:21,953 --> 00:40:23,820 Mm. I'm, like, getting anxious 946 00:40:23,922 --> 00:40:26,022 just thinking about that whole moment. 947 00:40:26,124 --> 00:40:27,757 Like, are we gonna get the right answers 948 00:40:27,859 --> 00:40:30,427 that we need to solve this case? 949 00:40:30,529 --> 00:40:34,330 Schrader: Our last question comes from diana, who asks, 950 00:40:34,433 --> 00:40:35,832 "do you ever have entities 951 00:40:35,934 --> 00:40:37,901 follow you home from investigations 952 00:40:38,003 --> 00:40:41,838 after they discover that you can communicate?" 953 00:40:41,940 --> 00:40:43,573 theoretically, if they have intelligence 954 00:40:43,675 --> 00:40:46,743 and they have the ability to be in different places, 955 00:40:46,845 --> 00:40:49,012 what's to say they aren't going to show up 956 00:40:49,114 --> 00:40:51,281 in your bedroom at night? Kind of frightening. 957 00:40:51,383 --> 00:40:53,316 Lee, we're going to tell your story, okay? 958 00:40:53,418 --> 00:40:54,951 We're going to tell everyone. 959 00:40:55,053 --> 00:40:56,920 Yeah, you don't have to be here, sir. 960 00:40:57,022 --> 00:40:59,289 Bruni: Finally, tonight, we heard the name lee 961 00:40:59,391 --> 00:41:00,990 as well as a few other evps 962 00:41:01,092 --> 00:41:02,725 that just really kind of solidified to us 963 00:41:02,828 --> 00:41:04,127 that that's who we're talking to, 964 00:41:04,229 --> 00:41:07,163 and he seemed very interested in getting his story told. 965 00:41:07,265 --> 00:41:10,600 He wanted people to understand that he was innocent. 966 00:41:10,702 --> 00:41:13,269 Berry: Now that the world will know robert lee was not a murderer, 967 00:41:13,371 --> 00:41:15,171 he should be able to find peace and move on, 968 00:41:15,273 --> 00:41:17,073 knowing that his story has been told 969 00:41:17,175 --> 00:41:18,775 and his name has been cleared. 970 00:41:18,877 --> 00:41:22,579 This episode was so powerful in many different ways. 971 00:41:22,681 --> 00:41:25,515 Just hopeless. 972 00:41:25,617 --> 00:41:27,417 Chip: It was the perfect paranormal storm. 973 00:41:27,519 --> 00:41:31,488 All the elements just sort of tied up all -- 974 00:41:31,590 --> 00:41:34,157 a lot of loose ends with what was going on in that space, 975 00:41:34,259 --> 00:41:35,758 bruni: In that particular spot, 976 00:41:35,861 --> 00:41:37,527 there's a lot of sadness. 977 00:41:37,629 --> 00:41:39,829 And I'm glad we could tell one story. 978 00:41:39,931 --> 00:41:42,465 And there are probably so many more. And it's like that 979 00:41:42,534 --> 00:41:45,435 in so many of these haunted locations we go to. 980 00:41:45,537 --> 00:41:47,470 Are you still looking for new cases? 981 00:41:47,572 --> 00:41:49,472 Always. Yes. 982 00:41:49,574 --> 00:41:51,574 I mean, if you've got a case, if something's happening to you 983 00:41:51,676 --> 00:41:53,109 and you need help, just reach out to us. 984 00:41:53,211 --> 00:41:54,244 We're glad to help. 76388

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