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Schrader:
Fear -- most run from it.
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Bruni:
What happened in here?
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[ static crackles ]
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oh, my god.
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But some embrace it.
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This is a place
that has a very, very dark
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and morbid, sad history.
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[ crying ] I don't even want
to open my eyes.
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I'm dave schrader,
lead paranormal investigator
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of "the holzer files,"
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bringing you
the most outrageous...
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Both: Ohh!
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That was a very
distinct answer.
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...And shocking moments...
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It's horrible.
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How did they
execute people here?
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Gallows.
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Schrader:
...From a terrifying episode...
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Punch.
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Bruni:
You have people being grabbed.
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You have people being shoved.
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Someone hit me.
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Schrader:
...Of "kindred spirits."
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something wants our attention,
and it's got it.
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♪♪
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schrader: You've told us
they stand out for you, too.
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So the "kindred spirits"
crew, amy...
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In a space like this, you don't
want to take any chances.
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Schrader: ...Adam...
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Throwing ourselves
in the belly of the beast
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schrader: ...And chip...
Dogs get treated better.
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How horrible
this must have been.
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Schrader: ...Are going to answer
your questions from twitter,
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as well as some of mine, about
these ghostly encounters...
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I just heard
something really loud drop.
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...And offer new insights
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into a truly spine-chilling
investigation.
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Who just whispered?
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♪♪
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st. Augustine, florida.
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Oldest city in america.
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Notorious for its hauntings.
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The old jail has a dark history.
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Bruni:
People were virtually tortured.
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Schrader: Prisoners were treated
worse than animals.
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Public executions were common.
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Recently, activity
has escalated.
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People have been
punched and choked.
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So amy, adam, and chip
were called in to investigate.
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♪♪
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here's our first question
from twitter.
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Sigoladerecha asks,
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"how do you feel
being in such a negative place?
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How can you describe that?
I'd be terrified."
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the jail is wild,
because during the day,
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it's a massive
tourist attraction.
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But then when the lights go out,
the vibe completely changes.
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You feel like something
is watching you constantly.
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It's one of the most
terrifying places ever.
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Well, it's time to interview
the jail manager, stephen.
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♪♪
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and how long was the jail
running?
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1891 to 1953.
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Oh, and then what was
the reason for closing it?
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The disease in here
was rampant,
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the overcrowding
unbearable.
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People were fighting.
Were they killing each other?
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Like...
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To say the least.
Okay.
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Oh, really,
it was that bad?
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We had murderers
in this jail.
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We had a variety of criminals
in this jail,
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and energy like that
doesn't just leave
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because you've dragged
the bodies out.
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True. So true.
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Yeah.
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Could you actually
feel the energy there?
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yeah. I mean, I think
what's interesting
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is you almost feel like
you can cut it with a knife,
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it's so thick and overpowering.
Oh, my god.
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Yeah. I mean, I know that
just when you go in
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and you start thinking
about what happened there,
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like, the tragedy
and, just, the death,
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it kind of overtakes you.
And you're in there,
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and it's hard
not to think about that
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and just get the job done.
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So true.
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stephen: We are in
maximum security,
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where the worst of the worst
would've been kept.
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Bruni: Is there anything
that's happened in this area?
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This cell down here
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is solitary confinement.
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People being
grabbed by the arm
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turned around
to realize nothing is there.
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I've seen a figure
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affectionately known as
the crawler.
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It's a very dark
entity.
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It's like
a shadow figure,
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but one that you see
with the naked eye,
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one that is darker
than any other shadow,
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one that tends to move.
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To suddenly be
in the presence
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of something
that is crawling,
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it changed me.
It was terrifying.
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So creepy.
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Schrader: We have
another question from twitter.
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Joan asks, "what do you think
shadow figures really are?
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And can you get rid of them?"
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I think
that shadow figures
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are just one of many ways
that spirits manifest.
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And I think they tend to be
more residual in energy,
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but they're super creepy.
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They're kind of like
the epitome
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of scary activity
for people.
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I think that's why
a lot of people
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tend to associate them
with something negative.
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uh -- uh --
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oh, my god.
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Yeah, and I don't really think
you can get rid of something
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that really wants
to get your attention.
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Mm-hmm.
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There's a story I want
to tell you
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about something
that happened to me.
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As I was coming
up the stairs...
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I hit about this spot,
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and suddenly,
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I felt a full-on hand
press against my chest.
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And then I felt a push.
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I came backwards,
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right back down
these stairs.
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People get shoved
in this building.
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People feel things
in this building.
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People become overwhelmed
with things in this building
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that they can't see, they can't
grasp, they can't understand,
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and in a place
like this,
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it's absolutely shattering.
It's terrifying.
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Karen asks, "do you think
that the spirits were angry
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or frustrated
by the tourists not being aware
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of the dark history
of that jail?"
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can you imagine
being this trapped soul
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that had this awful
ending to your life,
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and people are just
walking through the place
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with, like, ice cream cones
and stuff all day?
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I feel like that's why at night,
when things quiet down,
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they want to get
your attention,
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'cause that's
the only chance they have.
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Stephen: One night,
I had a group up here.
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The group is in here,
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and I'm moving around
the outside of the cell block,
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telling them a story
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when I see
that one of my guests
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has decided to follow me.
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It's only as I got around
the corner and over here
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that I realize that that guest
was getting closer to me,
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and I was able to make out that
it wasn't indeed a guest at all.
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The crawler was moving
against the bars
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rather than on the floor.
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That was a real eye-opening
moment for me.
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Bruni: Yeah.
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The crawler?
What the hell is the crawler?
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Yeah, it's definitely something
you don't want to be startled by
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when you're alone
in the dark.
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I don't...
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Want to say
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what I just saw
on the floor.
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It's terrifying.
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I want to be startled by it
alone in the dark
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or in the light.
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That's nightmare fuel.
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Yeah.
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And I've encountered
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the crawler.
Really?
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And when I've seen it,
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it was in the women's
cell block.
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And the way I noticed
is because it's dark.
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Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
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It's pitch black
in there.
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But then there's another spot
on the floor that's even darker.
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And you can kind of see it
moving around a little.
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You notice
the one corner,
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and then you notice it
move over here.
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Then you feel something
brush up against your leg.
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There has been a few times
when I was giving tours
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in maximum security,
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and this happened to me
for two days straight.
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Mm-hmm.
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Every time
I walked in there,
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I start getting this sharp pain
in my stomach,
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like, a sharp pain
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where it almost felt like
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I was losing breath.
Wow.
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I would have to stop,
breathe a little,
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and carry on
with the story.
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Okay.
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But every time
I stepped out...
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It was gone.
...It was gone.
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It just
totally left.
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Is there any
area of concern
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that you would like
to see us focus on
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or that you think
needs our help?
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If you ask me,
the entire building.
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The energy is so crazy,
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I kept thinking, "how are these
people still working here?"
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right.
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The entities. I mean,
it's clearly violent.
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How concerned were you
for the safety of yourselves
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and for the crew?
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I mean, you always
have to be cautious
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about something
like this.
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You never know
what you're going to get,
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and you never know what kind
of questions you need to ask
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to make sure
that you're safe.
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And so you just hit it head on
and try to protect each other.
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Employees are quitting because
they're scared to work here.
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It doesn't surprise me, though,
with a history like this.
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I mean, the place is already
dangerous enough in the dark,
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all these, like, stairs
everywhere and things.
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The added intensity
of something there
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that might want to push you down
those stairs
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is definitely something
you have to watch out for.
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Bruni: Now that the jail
has closed and we're alone,
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we're going to start
our search for this crawler
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in the deputies' quarters.
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Alright,
so this is the flux 2.
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So you can set it
to respond
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if something moves
within a foot,
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if something moves within,
like three feet,
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if something
moves within seven feet.
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Oh, I put this k2 here
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just because there's
a bunch of objects on here.
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It's already
going off.
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I think something
is setting it off.
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Schrader: Here's another
question from twitter,
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and I'm paraphrasing.
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Daff nee asks,
"what investigative tool
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do you like to use best?"
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I think we definitely
gravitate toward our recorder
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just because we can have
full-on conversations.
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That's why we review it
in real time.
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We ask questions,
and then we listen right back.
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So we are actually conversing
with these spirits.
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Do you happen to know
who is upstairs?
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[ static crackles ]
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was he feeling you?
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What is your name?
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What happened in here?
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[ static crackles ]
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oh, my god.
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Also, we tend to pick
the piece of equipment
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that's going to help us
focus on the individual
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we're trying to contact, whether
it's something touching it
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or something speaking.
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Let's do a little evp work.
Mm-hmm.
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Hi, there, to whoever
is here who's nonliving.
258
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No one's passing
any judgement on you
259
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or what you did
or how you ended up here,
260
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and even
if you worked here
261
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and maybe were witness
to some terrible things
262
00:09:54,061 --> 00:09:55,994
and feel bad about it
or whatever.
263
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Prisoner, inmate,
264
00:09:57,531 --> 00:10:00,231
sheriff, deputy,
265
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murderer, outlaw,
whoever...
266
00:10:03,070 --> 00:10:04,002
What do you think
of the people
267
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who take tours here
every day?
268
00:10:08,141 --> 00:10:10,141
Let's listen here.
269
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[ static crackles ]
270
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[ static crackles ]
271
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what was that?
272
00:10:38,605 --> 00:10:40,305
"I'm not a murderer."
273
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next up, we have a question
from dan.
274
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When you hear a voice
that sounds demonic,
275
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does it change the way
you do your investigations?
276
00:10:50,250 --> 00:10:52,317
I just think
that whatever that voice is,
277
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they really wanted
to say something.
278
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They had to get
your attention.
279
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It is absolutely terrifying
and frightening at times.
280
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But we have to keep
our composure and focus.
281
00:11:01,995 --> 00:11:04,362
That's the first thing
we came in, and we just said,
282
00:11:04,464 --> 00:11:06,364
"what do you need us
to fix?"
yeah, it says...
283
00:11:06,466 --> 00:11:07,899
"I'm not a murderer."
..."I'm not a murderer."
284
00:11:08,001 --> 00:11:10,135
what happened outside?
Yeah.
285
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People were hung
for murders.
286
00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,674
Yeah. We don't know what they
sound like where they are.
287
00:11:15,742 --> 00:11:18,943
And so if we assume that
every scary voice is a demon,
288
00:11:19,046 --> 00:11:21,646
we could really be, you know,
misidentifying these spirits.
289
00:11:21,748 --> 00:11:24,983
We want to make sure that we're
as compassionate as possible
290
00:11:25,085 --> 00:11:27,185
until they prove us wrong,
I guess,
291
00:11:27,287 --> 00:11:28,687
for lack of a better word.
Yeah. Yeah.
292
00:11:28,789 --> 00:11:32,457
And when they prove us wrong,
it can get ugly.
293
00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:34,192
And there is a
difference, right,
294
00:11:34,294 --> 00:11:36,528
I mean, between something
of a demonic force
295
00:11:36,630 --> 00:11:39,597
and maybe just a frustrated,
angry spirit,
296
00:11:39,700 --> 00:11:41,266
especially one that wants
to be cleared
297
00:11:41,368 --> 00:11:44,302
of a crime
that perhaps they didn't commit.
298
00:11:44,404 --> 00:11:46,271
Right. Exactly.
And so, like in this case,
299
00:11:46,373 --> 00:11:48,773
if we had assumed they were
something demonic or negative,
300
00:11:48,875 --> 00:11:50,308
we never would have been able
to help them.
301
00:11:50,410 --> 00:11:53,411
So you kind of have to let that
go out of your your mind
302
00:11:53,513 --> 00:11:56,047
for a minute
and just imagine
303
00:11:56,149 --> 00:11:57,916
that there's someone
who needs help.
304
00:11:58,018 --> 00:11:59,784
Absolutely.
305
00:11:59,886 --> 00:12:02,887
I just saw a shadow figure
306
00:12:02,989 --> 00:12:05,190
go in front of that.
307
00:12:05,292 --> 00:12:06,257
Oh, my god.
308
00:12:06,359 --> 00:12:08,760
I feel like my nose
wants to bleed.
309
00:12:08,862 --> 00:12:09,961
Punch.
310
00:12:10,063 --> 00:12:11,930
Just a violent action.
311
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♪♪
312
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bruni: We're investigating
the violent activity
313
00:12:19,806 --> 00:12:21,740
at st. Augustine's old jail,
314
00:12:21,842 --> 00:12:24,342
and I think we've just hit
on why spirits here
315
00:12:24,444 --> 00:12:27,779
are aggressively trying to get
the attention of the living.
316
00:12:27,881 --> 00:12:29,380
Can you say --
would you mind
317
00:12:29,483 --> 00:12:31,916
repeating that for us?
Can you say that again?
318
00:12:32,018 --> 00:12:34,319
I don't...
319
00:12:34,421 --> 00:12:35,520
Want to say
320
00:12:35,622 --> 00:12:37,655
what I just saw
on the floor.
321
00:12:37,758 --> 00:12:39,824
Wait, you saw something
on the floor?
322
00:12:39,926 --> 00:12:40,825
Where?
323
00:12:40,927 --> 00:12:42,560
Right down there.
324
00:12:42,662 --> 00:12:44,863
But I literally saw
something black
325
00:12:44,965 --> 00:12:47,065
just move
across the floor here.
326
00:12:47,167 --> 00:12:49,100
It was literally --
it just moved.
327
00:12:49,202 --> 00:12:50,301
Like, it was probably
about this big
328
00:12:50,403 --> 00:12:54,305
and just, like, moved
across the floor like this.
329
00:12:54,407 --> 00:12:56,107
It had no, like,
real shape to it.
330
00:12:56,209 --> 00:12:58,777
Weird.
It just kind of went like this.
331
00:12:58,879 --> 00:13:00,411
I mean, that's
what they described.
332
00:13:00,514 --> 00:13:01,513
He called it
the crawler.
333
00:13:01,615 --> 00:13:03,381
I know, but I just
didn't expect
334
00:13:03,483 --> 00:13:05,416
to see it,
like, that clearly.
335
00:13:05,519 --> 00:13:07,819
I'm not even kidding.
336
00:13:07,921 --> 00:13:11,422
I just saw
a shadow figure
337
00:13:11,525 --> 00:13:13,925
go in front of that,
338
00:13:14,027 --> 00:13:15,059
the light,
339
00:13:15,162 --> 00:13:16,728
the light right there,
on the thing,
340
00:13:16,830 --> 00:13:18,897
whatever's coming through,
on the bars.
341
00:13:18,999 --> 00:13:21,332
So, do you think
that that was the crawler?
342
00:13:21,434 --> 00:13:23,902
And was it trying
to communicate with you?
343
00:13:24,004 --> 00:13:25,603
I mean,
I think we saw the crawler.
344
00:13:25,705 --> 00:13:28,072
And I think we saw it really
quick in the investigation.
345
00:13:28,175 --> 00:13:29,574
Right here?
Uh-huh.
346
00:13:29,676 --> 00:13:32,977
It's always great when we can,
you know, correlate activity
347
00:13:33,079 --> 00:13:35,046
with what the client
is experiencing.
348
00:13:35,148 --> 00:13:36,681
But in this case,
that's one of those things
349
00:13:36,783 --> 00:13:39,217
you're not really sure
you actually want to see it.
350
00:13:39,319 --> 00:13:42,253
It was like the two lights
on this side,
351
00:13:42,355 --> 00:13:44,689
literally, just, like,
three of them disappeared.
352
00:13:44,791 --> 00:13:46,257
Like something reached out,
maybe?
353
00:13:46,359 --> 00:13:48,293
It was [snaps fingers]
like that.
354
00:13:48,395 --> 00:13:50,328
It had direction.
It had movement.
355
00:13:50,430 --> 00:13:53,798
And it looked exactly like
what they described.
356
00:13:53,867 --> 00:13:57,202
It was darker
than the actual dark.
357
00:13:57,304 --> 00:13:59,871
Somebody wants our attention,
and it's got it.
358
00:13:59,973 --> 00:14:02,907
We were up there for,
I don't know,
359
00:14:03,009 --> 00:14:05,910
less than 30 minutes,
and it went crazy.
360
00:14:06,012 --> 00:14:08,680
Something was reaching out to us
that said, "I'm not a murderer."
361
00:14:08,782 --> 00:14:11,082
we saw a weird shadow thing
crawling on the ground.
362
00:14:11,184 --> 00:14:13,318
We saw a weird shadow thing
in the jail.
363
00:14:13,420 --> 00:14:15,720
This thing moves around,
whatever it is.
364
00:14:15,822 --> 00:14:16,988
You know, it's up to us
to figure out
365
00:14:17,090 --> 00:14:19,557
what's actually going on.
366
00:14:19,659 --> 00:14:21,259
I don't know.
367
00:14:21,361 --> 00:14:24,929
Do we try this same area
but downstairs,
368
00:14:25,031 --> 00:14:26,798
like, in
the sheriff's office?
369
00:14:26,900 --> 00:14:28,466
Yes.
370
00:14:28,568 --> 00:14:30,735
Bruni: We had
experience after experience.
371
00:14:30,837 --> 00:14:34,339
We got the very distinct evp
of, "I am not a murderer."
372
00:14:34,441 --> 00:14:35,473
and, I mean, that's such
373
00:14:35,575 --> 00:14:37,742
a call to action for us.
That's our mission.
374
00:14:37,844 --> 00:14:39,844
Now we have to figure out
who this person is,
375
00:14:39,946 --> 00:14:42,080
why is it so important for them
to get that message out,
376
00:14:42,182 --> 00:14:45,950
and how the hell
are we going to fix this.
377
00:14:46,052 --> 00:14:49,487
Do you happen to know
who is upstairs
378
00:14:49,589 --> 00:14:52,423
that feels they were
wrongly accused?
379
00:14:52,525 --> 00:14:55,493
What was the sheriff's name
when you were here?
380
00:14:55,595 --> 00:14:57,528
Who was the sheriff?
381
00:14:57,631 --> 00:14:59,130
Was he a good sheriff?
382
00:14:59,232 --> 00:15:02,467
♪♪
383
00:15:02,569 --> 00:15:03,935
[ static crackles ]
384
00:15:17,117 --> 00:15:18,049
[ static crackles loudly ]
385
00:15:18,151 --> 00:15:20,518
both: Ohh!
386
00:15:20,620 --> 00:15:23,354
That was a very
distinct answer.
Yeah.
387
00:15:23,456 --> 00:15:24,656
When you were here...
388
00:15:30,096 --> 00:15:31,195
Gah!
389
00:15:31,298 --> 00:15:32,997
I get chills
every time I hear that.
390
00:15:33,099 --> 00:15:34,065
Every time.
391
00:15:34,167 --> 00:15:36,701
Well, ann asks,
"what type of feeling
392
00:15:36,803 --> 00:15:40,838
does hearing a disembodied voice
like that bring to you, amy?"
393
00:15:40,941 --> 00:15:43,441
I mean, in that case,
it was just so crazy
394
00:15:43,543 --> 00:15:45,276
because upstairs, we have
someone declaring
395
00:15:45,378 --> 00:15:48,179
they're not a murderer.
And downstairs, we have someone
396
00:15:48,281 --> 00:15:51,249
clearly not happy
with the sheriff.
397
00:15:51,351 --> 00:15:52,617
And we had heard
some stories.
398
00:15:52,719 --> 00:15:55,453
And so at this point,
we're like, "okay," you know,
399
00:15:55,555 --> 00:15:58,556
"is this voice something
we need to be concerned about?"
400
00:15:58,658 --> 00:16:00,425
but, yeah, you hear
something like that...
401
00:16:00,527 --> 00:16:02,327
[ static crackles ]
oh!
402
00:16:02,429 --> 00:16:04,896
...It's disconcerting,
to say the least.
403
00:16:04,998 --> 00:16:11,202
♪♪
404
00:16:11,304 --> 00:16:12,737
no answers to anything
405
00:16:12,839 --> 00:16:15,039
until we asked
if the sheriff was a good man,
406
00:16:15,141 --> 00:16:18,176
and there was a very distinct
"no" to that one.
407
00:16:18,278 --> 00:16:19,243
No. Yeah.
408
00:16:19,346 --> 00:16:22,613
Whoever, whatever
is slinking around --
409
00:16:22,716 --> 00:16:25,350
and I don't know
if that's a person --
410
00:16:25,452 --> 00:16:27,452
right.
"I am not a murderer."
411
00:16:27,554 --> 00:16:30,421
yeah, I mean, I feel like I
really want to know who that is.
412
00:16:30,523 --> 00:16:31,456
I do, too.
413
00:16:31,558 --> 00:16:33,491
Do you feel like
you're getting any closer
414
00:16:33,593 --> 00:16:36,361
to determining
who the spirit is?
415
00:16:36,463 --> 00:16:38,930
I mean, I think it was
very clear that this was someone
416
00:16:39,032 --> 00:16:42,967
who spent time
in the prison as an inmate.
417
00:16:43,069 --> 00:16:45,570
I know that was actually still
very daunting for us, though,
418
00:16:45,672 --> 00:16:48,706
because so many people
spent time in that jail,
419
00:16:48,808 --> 00:16:51,175
but also, their record keeping
was not great.
420
00:16:51,277 --> 00:16:54,278
So we knew we still had
our work cut out for us.
421
00:16:54,381 --> 00:16:56,147
Yeah. The next step
was to go out
422
00:16:56,249 --> 00:16:58,516
and really, really dig into
the research.
423
00:16:58,618 --> 00:17:02,453
♪♪
424
00:17:02,555 --> 00:17:04,889
berry: With the evp that we
caught, "I am not a murderer,"
425
00:17:04,991 --> 00:17:07,191
I really want to find as much
information as I possibly can
426
00:17:07,293 --> 00:17:09,227
on those that
were incarcerated in the jail,
427
00:17:09,329 --> 00:17:10,828
those that might have been
convicted of murder,
428
00:17:10,930 --> 00:17:13,798
those that were
probably put to death.
429
00:17:13,900 --> 00:17:15,666
Hmm.
430
00:17:15,769 --> 00:17:17,635
So you have jim kirby
and you have robert lee,
431
00:17:17,737 --> 00:17:20,238
who were both convicted
of murder,
432
00:17:20,340 --> 00:17:23,107
and it seems like
jim kirby
433
00:17:23,209 --> 00:17:26,044
said that robert had nothing
to do with the murder,
434
00:17:26,146 --> 00:17:27,678
but they hung him anyway.
435
00:17:27,781 --> 00:17:29,047
And there's no...
436
00:17:29,149 --> 00:17:32,717
I can't find a robert lee
in the intake records
437
00:17:32,819 --> 00:17:35,920
for crimes committed in --
438
00:17:36,022 --> 00:17:39,390
during that time period,
1901, 1900.
439
00:17:39,492 --> 00:17:41,959
I don't see him listed.
440
00:17:42,062 --> 00:17:43,394
So I don't know
if he was exonerated,
441
00:17:43,496 --> 00:17:45,463
or they just erased
his file, or...
442
00:17:45,565 --> 00:17:48,699
It's bizarre, though,
that they have no record of it.
443
00:17:48,802 --> 00:17:51,035
"lee was visibly agitated
and showing that
444
00:17:51,137 --> 00:17:55,039
he was suffering mental agony."
445
00:17:55,141 --> 00:17:56,441
because he didn't do it.
446
00:17:56,543 --> 00:17:58,876
"hanging an innocent man,"
said lee,
447
00:17:58,978 --> 00:18:01,779
"I'm going to
meet death bravely.
448
00:18:01,881 --> 00:18:03,948
I know the public believes
I'm guilty
449
00:18:04,050 --> 00:18:05,550
and that I have been
cursed and abused,
450
00:18:05,652 --> 00:18:11,155
but I am innocent, and you will
learn such in the next world."
451
00:18:11,257 --> 00:18:12,356
that just gave me chills.
452
00:18:12,459 --> 00:18:13,858
That's really intense.
453
00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:15,126
Tonight, when we investigate,
454
00:18:15,228 --> 00:18:20,231
we need to use jim kirby
and robert lee for sure.
455
00:18:20,333 --> 00:18:23,501
I mean, especially
if robert lee didn't do it,
456
00:18:23,603 --> 00:18:25,837
and he's the one
trying to reach out to us.
457
00:18:25,939 --> 00:18:26,971
No record. He was, like,
458
00:18:27,073 --> 00:18:29,640
wiped off the face of the earth,
basically.
459
00:18:29,776 --> 00:18:32,677
Well, it makes you
a little bit more understanding
460
00:18:32,779 --> 00:18:34,712
of why this spirit
would be so upset,
461
00:18:34,814 --> 00:18:38,149
if that's really the case,
that he's been basically erased
462
00:18:38,251 --> 00:18:41,252
and was murdered for a crime
he didn't commit.
463
00:18:41,354 --> 00:18:44,889
"I am innocent, and you will
learn such in the next world."
464
00:18:44,991 --> 00:18:47,725
to actually curse the people
that were doing it,
465
00:18:47,827 --> 00:18:49,894
saying, "you're gonna find out
in the next world
466
00:18:49,996 --> 00:18:52,563
if not this one," is really,
really insane.
467
00:18:52,665 --> 00:18:53,731
Actual words.
468
00:18:53,833 --> 00:18:55,833
Yeah, I can't think
of a more classic example
469
00:18:55,935 --> 00:18:57,368
of unfinished business,
470
00:18:57,470 --> 00:19:00,238
like, something that would
keep someone earthbound,
471
00:19:00,340 --> 00:19:03,307
something they want
to make right.
472
00:19:03,409 --> 00:19:06,878
Let's welcome now to the show
chip coffey. Chip, welcome.
473
00:19:06,980 --> 00:19:07,945
Thanks, dave.
474
00:19:08,047 --> 00:19:09,313
Hey, chip.
475
00:19:09,415 --> 00:19:11,883
Hi, chip.
Hi, guys. Good to see you.
476
00:19:11,985 --> 00:19:14,819
♪♪
477
00:19:14,921 --> 00:19:16,754
berry: We're bringing chip
into this investigation
478
00:19:16,856 --> 00:19:18,556
for a really specific reason.
479
00:19:18,658 --> 00:19:19,957
There we go.
480
00:19:20,059 --> 00:19:21,392
At this point,
there are spirits here
481
00:19:21,494 --> 00:19:23,194
that live here all the time,
482
00:19:23,296 --> 00:19:25,930
and we have somebody
obviously communicating with us.
483
00:19:26,032 --> 00:19:27,932
We think we have an idea
of who's here.
484
00:19:28,034 --> 00:19:29,066
We know the circumstances
485
00:19:29,169 --> 00:19:32,136
surrounding the incident
and the death,
486
00:19:32,238 --> 00:19:33,971
and maybe he can
pinpoint into that.
487
00:19:36,142 --> 00:19:39,410
I feel like I'm walking
the green mile, you guys.
488
00:19:39,479 --> 00:19:42,980
He does not know anything about
our locations when he shows up.
489
00:19:43,082 --> 00:19:45,183
But in this case, we're actually
going to blindfold him
490
00:19:45,285 --> 00:19:47,418
because once you pass
through the doors,
491
00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,153
it's clearly --
it's a jail.
492
00:19:49,255 --> 00:19:50,288
So we want to blindfold him.
493
00:19:50,390 --> 00:19:51,455
We want to bring him in
494
00:19:51,558 --> 00:19:53,524
just so that he is
completely in the dark
495
00:19:53,626 --> 00:19:55,660
on everything,
including visually,
496
00:19:55,795 --> 00:19:59,197
and seeing what kind of things
come to him.
497
00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,600
Schrader: Now, we have
a comment from sara.
498
00:20:02,702 --> 00:20:04,602
"it's crazy how you said
you feel like
499
00:20:04,704 --> 00:20:07,071
you were walking
the green mile."
500
00:20:07,173 --> 00:20:09,974
chip, what were you sensing
as you entered?
501
00:20:10,076 --> 00:20:11,976
It was crazy.
I just somehow knew
502
00:20:12,078 --> 00:20:16,380
that where I was at had
something to do with prisoners
503
00:20:16,482 --> 00:20:20,651
or people
that had been incarcerated.
504
00:20:20,753 --> 00:20:23,120
It was the most
bizarre feeling.
505
00:20:23,223 --> 00:20:25,723
Is that ever overwhelming
to you? Do you ever get visions
506
00:20:25,825 --> 00:20:28,626
of this or flashes
before you even get in a car
507
00:20:28,728 --> 00:20:31,696
to head towards
where the location is?
508
00:20:31,798 --> 00:20:34,265
Sometimes I will get visions
or information
509
00:20:34,367 --> 00:20:36,968
before I head to a location.
510
00:20:37,070 --> 00:20:39,403
I'm always excited when
that information is verified
511
00:20:39,505 --> 00:20:42,673
once I get
with amy and adam.
512
00:20:42,775 --> 00:20:44,375
Stop right here.
513
00:20:44,477 --> 00:20:46,110
Stop right here
for a second.
514
00:20:48,348 --> 00:20:52,250
I feel like my nose
wants to bleed.
515
00:20:52,352 --> 00:20:53,284
Someone hit me.
516
00:20:53,386 --> 00:20:57,822
♪♪
517
00:20:57,924 --> 00:21:01,192
like punch, punch...
518
00:21:01,261 --> 00:21:07,365
♪♪
519
00:21:07,467 --> 00:21:09,367
in those moments, chip,
520
00:21:09,502 --> 00:21:11,836
are you reliving what was
happening to someone there,
521
00:21:11,938 --> 00:21:14,505
or are the spirits
physically rushing you
522
00:21:14,607 --> 00:21:17,541
and physically attacking you?
523
00:21:17,644 --> 00:21:20,511
The simple answer to that
question is yes to both.
524
00:21:20,613 --> 00:21:22,913
Someone hit me. Punch.
525
00:21:23,016 --> 00:21:25,349
I was actually experiencing
at that point
526
00:21:25,451 --> 00:21:27,451
the physical violence
527
00:21:27,553 --> 00:21:30,655
that was inflicted
on the people in that facility.
528
00:21:30,757 --> 00:21:32,156
And it was heartbreaking.
529
00:21:32,258 --> 00:21:34,225
Yeah. There was a lot,
for sure.
530
00:21:34,327 --> 00:21:35,593
Hard to watch.
531
00:21:35,695 --> 00:21:37,495
I feel like my nose
wants to bleed.
532
00:21:37,597 --> 00:21:41,465
Even watching it back,
I was covered in cold chills
533
00:21:41,567 --> 00:21:43,534
and felt the emotion
that we all felt there.
534
00:21:43,636 --> 00:21:45,970
It was --
it was devastating.
535
00:21:46,072 --> 00:21:48,039
♪♪
536
00:21:48,141 --> 00:21:50,541
got it? Okay, good.
All right.
537
00:21:50,643 --> 00:21:54,078
Just have a seat here
for a second and...
538
00:21:54,180 --> 00:21:58,816
♪♪
539
00:21:58,918 --> 00:22:02,019
no.
540
00:22:02,121 --> 00:22:04,588
Whoever I'm picking up says,
541
00:22:04,691 --> 00:22:07,758
"I just don't give
a damn anymore,
542
00:22:07,860 --> 00:22:09,393
no need to even try."
543
00:22:09,495 --> 00:22:13,664
♪♪
544
00:22:13,766 --> 00:22:15,800
we're just going to step out
of this space for a second.
545
00:22:15,902 --> 00:22:22,006
♪♪
546
00:22:22,108 --> 00:22:23,107
it's horrible.
547
00:22:23,242 --> 00:22:25,843
[ sniffles, cries ]
548
00:22:25,945 --> 00:22:28,979
♪♪
549
00:22:29,082 --> 00:22:32,483
just hopeless.
550
00:22:32,585 --> 00:22:38,522
♪♪
551
00:22:38,624 --> 00:22:41,258
I still get teary
when I watch that.
552
00:22:41,361 --> 00:22:45,363
I don't feel like there's
any reason to even...
553
00:22:45,465 --> 00:22:47,031
Exist.
554
00:22:47,133 --> 00:22:48,566
-Okay.
-No.
555
00:22:51,871 --> 00:22:55,406
♪♪
556
00:22:55,508 --> 00:22:56,974
berry: We're in
st. Augustine's old jail
557
00:22:57,076 --> 00:22:58,576
trying to make contact
with an entity
558
00:22:58,678 --> 00:23:00,811
that told us
it's not a murderer.
559
00:23:00,913 --> 00:23:01,946
We've locked chip coffey
560
00:23:02,048 --> 00:23:03,814
into the jail's
most vulnerable spot --
561
00:23:03,916 --> 00:23:05,416
solitary confinement.
562
00:23:05,518 --> 00:23:07,685
As much as it pains us
to watch him suffer,
563
00:23:07,787 --> 00:23:10,154
we think we're making
an important connection.
564
00:23:10,256 --> 00:23:11,622
It's horrible.
565
00:23:11,724 --> 00:23:13,758
[ sniffles, cries ]
566
00:23:13,860 --> 00:23:18,062
♪♪
567
00:23:18,164 --> 00:23:20,965
just hopeless.
568
00:23:21,067 --> 00:23:24,268
♪♪
569
00:23:24,370 --> 00:23:28,472
it comes in waves. It's like you
don't feel like there's any --
570
00:23:28,574 --> 00:23:32,643
you don't feel like there's
any reason to even...
571
00:23:32,745 --> 00:23:34,111
Exist.
572
00:23:36,349 --> 00:23:40,151
And anger and frustration.
573
00:23:42,155 --> 00:23:44,355
A name that comes into my head
is james.
574
00:23:44,457 --> 00:23:46,424
James.
575
00:23:46,526 --> 00:23:48,058
Ugh.
576
00:23:48,161 --> 00:23:50,494
I still get teary
when I watch that.
577
00:23:50,596 --> 00:23:53,297
Right. It's a devastating
moment, chip.
578
00:23:53,399 --> 00:23:55,766
And you're still blindfolded,
579
00:23:55,868 --> 00:23:59,570
but you're feeling
all of this emotion and sadness.
580
00:23:59,672 --> 00:24:00,871
It's horrible.
581
00:24:00,973 --> 00:24:03,741
Schrader: For those of us
that don't have those abilities,
582
00:24:03,843 --> 00:24:05,743
talk to me about
what that feels like to you.
583
00:24:05,845 --> 00:24:09,013
I called it
a mini nervous breakdown
584
00:24:09,115 --> 00:24:13,083
that I had
in that isolation cell.
585
00:24:13,186 --> 00:24:15,686
It was --
586
00:24:15,788 --> 00:24:17,688
there --
words just can't describe
587
00:24:17,790 --> 00:24:20,791
how sad and desperate
588
00:24:20,893 --> 00:24:24,128
and overwhelmed
I felt in that space.
589
00:24:24,230 --> 00:24:27,598
It was horrible.
590
00:24:27,700 --> 00:24:30,935
Vickie asks, "what was going
through your minds
591
00:24:31,037 --> 00:24:33,671
when chip reacted
the way that he did?"
592
00:24:33,773 --> 00:24:35,072
it was incredibly
hard to watch.
593
00:24:35,174 --> 00:24:37,007
You know, I don't even
really re-watch it
594
00:24:37,109 --> 00:24:38,843
when the episode airs.
595
00:24:38,945 --> 00:24:41,545
Like, this is the first time
I've really looked at it since
596
00:24:41,647 --> 00:24:44,148
because it was so painful.
But it was hard.
597
00:24:44,250 --> 00:24:45,782
I wanted to just hug him.
598
00:24:45,852 --> 00:24:48,385
Chip,
I hate this.
599
00:24:48,488 --> 00:24:50,187
Yeah.
It's okay.
600
00:24:50,289 --> 00:24:52,323
Yeah. But then
he said, "james."
601
00:24:52,425 --> 00:24:55,659
and that to me was worth --
602
00:24:55,761 --> 00:24:59,296
you know, hopefully worth it,
because we got an answer.
603
00:24:59,398 --> 00:25:01,632
[ crying ] I don't even want
to open my eyes.
604
00:25:01,734 --> 00:25:06,637
♪♪
605
00:25:06,739 --> 00:25:07,771
where is this?
606
00:25:07,874 --> 00:25:10,808
Solitary confinement.
607
00:25:10,910 --> 00:25:12,710
Sorry.
No, I --
608
00:25:12,812 --> 00:25:15,479
chip,
I hate this.
609
00:25:15,581 --> 00:25:17,114
Yeah.
It's okay.
610
00:25:18,417 --> 00:25:23,153
There's someone in here
who's reaching out to people.
611
00:25:24,223 --> 00:25:26,524
Our next question
comes from stephanie.
612
00:25:26,626 --> 00:25:30,227
I was completely wrecked.
Watching you break down.
613
00:25:30,329 --> 00:25:36,567
How do you recover from
such an emotional experience?
614
00:25:36,669 --> 00:25:38,569
I knew I had a job to do.
615
00:25:38,671 --> 00:25:40,638
I did my job,
616
00:25:40,740 --> 00:25:42,806
and I tried my best
to just push it aside,
617
00:25:42,909 --> 00:25:46,410
because if I'd held onto it,
618
00:25:46,512 --> 00:25:50,014
I don't know
how it might have affected me.
619
00:25:50,116 --> 00:25:54,552
There's someone in here
who's reaching out to people.
620
00:25:54,654 --> 00:25:56,220
Do you have to do special things
621
00:25:56,322 --> 00:25:59,523
after a moment like that,
chip, to clear yourself
622
00:25:59,625 --> 00:26:01,492
so that you're not carrying
that emotion around
623
00:26:01,594 --> 00:26:04,295
for the rest of the day?
624
00:26:04,397 --> 00:26:08,065
As silly as this may sound,
I just kind of walk it off.
625
00:26:14,407 --> 00:26:16,674
Did they execute people here?
626
00:26:16,776 --> 00:26:18,809
Yes.
627
00:26:18,911 --> 00:26:21,011
How did they execute
people here?
628
00:26:21,113 --> 00:26:22,680
Gallows.
629
00:26:22,782 --> 00:26:26,884
♪♪
630
00:26:26,986 --> 00:26:28,719
they would make...
631
00:26:28,821 --> 00:26:29,920
Oh, my god.
632
00:26:30,022 --> 00:26:32,256
They would make the inmates
build their own.
633
00:26:32,358 --> 00:26:34,291
-Their own?
-Mm-hmm.
634
00:26:34,393 --> 00:26:35,993
-That makes me sick.
-Yeah.
635
00:26:37,163 --> 00:26:41,031
Any, like, name specifics
or actions
636
00:26:41,133 --> 00:26:43,133
or causes
of incarceration?
637
00:26:44,870 --> 00:26:46,570
There was someone
who came through for us
638
00:26:46,672 --> 00:26:48,806
really clearly last night
when we were investigating.
639
00:26:48,908 --> 00:26:50,874
We got
a pretty strong evp
640
00:26:50,977 --> 00:26:52,643
that said,
"I'm not a murderer."
641
00:26:52,745 --> 00:26:54,278
try the james thing.
642
00:26:54,380 --> 00:26:56,981
James, jim kirby,
643
00:26:57,083 --> 00:26:59,216
was sentenced to death
for murder
644
00:26:59,318 --> 00:27:00,985
along with robert lee.
645
00:27:01,087 --> 00:27:02,486
They were hung on the gallows.
646
00:27:02,588 --> 00:27:05,556
James said multiple times
647
00:27:05,658 --> 00:27:07,691
that robert lee was innocent,
648
00:27:07,793 --> 00:27:09,627
and they hung him anyway,
649
00:27:09,729 --> 00:27:12,363
and robert lee said
his innocence
650
00:27:12,465 --> 00:27:14,365
will come to light
in the next life.
651
00:27:14,467 --> 00:27:15,833
So, it was
robert lee.
652
00:27:15,935 --> 00:27:17,134
That was robert lee
who said that.
653
00:27:17,236 --> 00:27:20,270
I had chills -- 100%,
to a reporter, said,
654
00:27:20,373 --> 00:27:23,374
"my innocence will be made
to light in the next life."
655
00:27:23,476 --> 00:27:25,743
you just got the next step
in your process.
656
00:27:25,845 --> 00:27:28,145
Amy and adam,
what is it like when chip
657
00:27:28,247 --> 00:27:29,980
becomes this conduit
to the other side
658
00:27:30,082 --> 00:27:33,984
and suddenly starts bringing
these loose ends together?
659
00:27:34,086 --> 00:27:37,287
I mean, chip is part of what
we call our perfect trifecta.
660
00:27:37,390 --> 00:27:41,759
So when we have, like, evidence
plus research plus chip
661
00:27:41,861 --> 00:27:43,193
all coming together,
662
00:27:43,295 --> 00:27:45,629
we know we are
onto something huge.
663
00:27:45,731 --> 00:27:47,531
And so this was one of
those moments,
664
00:27:47,633 --> 00:27:49,266
and we love
when that happens.
665
00:27:49,368 --> 00:27:51,835
Yeah. You know, we just
have to keep digging.
666
00:27:51,937 --> 00:27:54,238
We have to keep going.
And so we went back that night
667
00:27:54,340 --> 00:27:58,175
and did another evp session,
and this is what we got.
668
00:28:11,824 --> 00:28:12,956
[ static crackles ]
669
00:28:13,059 --> 00:28:14,892
oh, my god.
670
00:28:14,994 --> 00:28:19,296
♪♪
671
00:28:19,398 --> 00:28:20,898
[ static crackles, pops ]
672
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,434
"help me."
673
00:28:23,536 --> 00:28:26,403
that's [bleep] up.
674
00:28:26,505 --> 00:28:28,105
Remember, you said
that the truth
675
00:28:28,207 --> 00:28:30,941
would come to light
in the next life.
676
00:28:31,077 --> 00:28:32,943
Robert,
this is your chance.
677
00:28:33,045 --> 00:28:35,979
[ beeps ]
678
00:28:36,082 --> 00:28:37,414
that hasn't done that.
679
00:28:39,752 --> 00:28:46,356
♪♪
680
00:28:46,459 --> 00:28:48,292
berry: We're at the old jail
in st. Augustine,
681
00:28:48,394 --> 00:28:50,694
where employees are being
punched and pushed down steps.
682
00:28:50,796 --> 00:28:52,162
Bruni:
What happened in here?
683
00:28:52,264 --> 00:28:53,263
[ static crackles, pops ]
684
00:28:53,365 --> 00:28:54,832
oh, my god.
685
00:28:54,934 --> 00:28:57,735
Someone just reached out,
begging for help.
686
00:28:57,837 --> 00:28:59,136
"help me."
687
00:28:59,238 --> 00:29:00,738
could this be the same entity
688
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,240
that told us
they weren't a murderer?
689
00:29:03,309 --> 00:29:07,211
That was
such a distinct evp.
690
00:29:07,313 --> 00:29:09,880
Oh, god.
691
00:29:09,982 --> 00:29:11,215
How can we help you?
692
00:29:11,317 --> 00:29:14,184
We have to know
how to help you.
693
00:29:14,286 --> 00:29:17,755
Why have you chosen
to remain here?
694
00:29:17,857 --> 00:29:20,557
♪♪
695
00:29:20,659 --> 00:29:22,493
do you want
your story told?
696
00:29:22,595 --> 00:29:25,095
♪♪
697
00:29:25,197 --> 00:29:27,898
why do you think it just
stopped communicating?
698
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,100
I think that whoever's
in that space,
699
00:29:30,202 --> 00:29:33,370
what they went through,
they're not exactly trusting.
700
00:29:33,472 --> 00:29:35,305
You know, I think they gave us
a couple answers,
701
00:29:35,407 --> 00:29:37,508
and then they backed off,
with good reason.
702
00:29:37,610 --> 00:29:39,042
You know, who are we?
We just walk in
703
00:29:39,145 --> 00:29:41,445
and we start asking
these hard questions.
704
00:29:41,547 --> 00:29:43,647
We decided to head
back downstairs
705
00:29:43,749 --> 00:29:45,849
where we last connected.
706
00:29:45,951 --> 00:29:51,555
So, we'll put that here.
[ device beeps ]
707
00:29:51,657 --> 00:29:53,557
berry: So, we're going to go
back to the deputies' quarters
708
00:29:53,659 --> 00:29:55,359
where we got the evp.
709
00:29:55,461 --> 00:29:57,861
I have the sls in case
the crawler comes back.
710
00:29:57,963 --> 00:30:01,331
It can map out anomalies,
making it easier for us to see.
711
00:30:01,433 --> 00:30:04,701
♪♪
712
00:30:04,770 --> 00:30:08,138
we heard someone declare
they are not a murderer.
713
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,641
That sounds an awful lot
like the case
714
00:30:10,743 --> 00:30:15,746
with robert lee
and jim kirby.
715
00:30:15,848 --> 00:30:17,881
Is that what
you're referring to?
716
00:30:20,352 --> 00:30:24,021
Robert,
this is your chance.
717
00:30:24,123 --> 00:30:25,222
Remember, you said that
718
00:30:25,324 --> 00:30:28,559
the truth
would come to life
719
00:30:28,661 --> 00:30:32,129
in the next life.
720
00:30:32,231 --> 00:30:33,564
We're here to fix it.
721
00:30:33,666 --> 00:30:36,900
We want the world to know
what really happened.
722
00:30:38,704 --> 00:30:40,904
But you have to
talk to us.
723
00:30:43,342 --> 00:30:45,209
Robert,
are you here with us?
724
00:30:45,311 --> 00:30:49,213
♪♪
725
00:30:49,315 --> 00:30:51,148
alright. I'm going to
play this back.
726
00:31:11,270 --> 00:31:13,737
Hmm.
727
00:31:13,839 --> 00:31:14,771
Quiet.
728
00:31:14,874 --> 00:31:16,506
Why isn't he talking to you?
729
00:31:16,609 --> 00:31:18,375
Yeah. It's frustrating
as an investigator
730
00:31:18,444 --> 00:31:19,810
because you get
to a certain point,
731
00:31:19,912 --> 00:31:21,612
and you think
you're almost there,
732
00:31:21,714 --> 00:31:25,949
and it shuts down, almost like
as if to say,
733
00:31:26,051 --> 00:31:27,651
"I told you what I want.
Now do it."
734
00:31:27,753 --> 00:31:29,620
but we're like, "well,
what is it exactly?"
735
00:31:29,722 --> 00:31:31,989
you know, we don't
really know yet.
736
00:31:32,091 --> 00:31:34,458
Damn it.
737
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,026
He does not want
to talk to us tonight.
738
00:31:36,128 --> 00:31:38,795
Are there these brief windows,
739
00:31:38,898 --> 00:31:41,498
these portals
when they're able to be heard?
740
00:31:41,567 --> 00:31:45,102
And if you just happen to be
there at the moment that aligns,
741
00:31:45,204 --> 00:31:47,137
it gives you that burst.
742
00:31:47,239 --> 00:31:49,339
Sometimes that's all
you'll ever get.
743
00:31:49,441 --> 00:31:51,241
I mean, it could be
that, you know,
744
00:31:51,343 --> 00:31:54,211
it's just like a person.
Maybe sometimes they're there.
745
00:31:54,313 --> 00:31:55,579
Maybe it's sometimes
they're home,
746
00:31:55,681 --> 00:31:58,048
and maybe sometimes
they're not, so...
747
00:31:58,150 --> 00:32:00,117
Or this is just
the ghosts' way of saying,
748
00:32:00,219 --> 00:32:01,585
"just go ahead and text me."
749
00:32:01,687 --> 00:32:03,020
e-mail. Just e-mail.
750
00:32:03,122 --> 00:32:05,355
[ laughs ]
751
00:32:05,457 --> 00:32:08,458
do you want emmanuel
to come in here?
752
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,127
[ beeps ]
753
00:32:10,229 --> 00:32:13,063
♪♪
754
00:32:13,165 --> 00:32:14,765
huh.
755
00:32:14,867 --> 00:32:16,433
That hasn't
done that.
756
00:32:18,604 --> 00:32:19,569
Okay.
757
00:32:19,672 --> 00:32:21,238
You know
emmanuel was here,
758
00:32:21,340 --> 00:32:23,473
and stephen was here
with us yesterday, and --
759
00:32:23,575 --> 00:32:24,908
[ beeps ]
760
00:32:25,010 --> 00:32:27,477
that's twice, though,
things have gone off
761
00:32:27,579 --> 00:32:29,713
at the mention
of emmanuel, so...
762
00:32:29,815 --> 00:32:30,847
Exactly.
763
00:32:30,950 --> 00:32:31,915
[ beeps ]
764
00:32:32,017 --> 00:32:34,051
♪♪
765
00:32:34,153 --> 00:32:35,686
obviously, the spirits
have spoken.
766
00:32:35,788 --> 00:32:37,521
They're probably familiar
with these people
767
00:32:37,623 --> 00:32:39,056
that are around
all the time, as well.
768
00:32:39,158 --> 00:32:40,924
So that's really no surprise
769
00:32:41,026 --> 00:32:45,595
that they may feel akin
to somebody that is there.
770
00:32:45,698 --> 00:32:48,265
Emmanuel: I want
to introduce you to my friends.
771
00:32:48,367 --> 00:32:50,701
They're here
to tell your story.
772
00:32:50,803 --> 00:32:54,304
He made it a habit to go in
and talk to them by himself,
773
00:32:54,406 --> 00:32:55,939
you know,
before or after his shift.
774
00:32:56,041 --> 00:32:58,909
So he was
a very familiar figure to them.
775
00:32:59,011 --> 00:33:00,811
So it makes sense
that, you know,
776
00:33:00,913 --> 00:33:02,479
he might be someone
we need to bring in.
777
00:33:02,581 --> 00:33:03,947
We brought him here
to show you
778
00:33:04,049 --> 00:33:06,316
that you can talk
to us tonight, okay?
779
00:33:06,418 --> 00:33:09,152
He's become
a living trigger object.
780
00:33:09,254 --> 00:33:10,187
Right.
781
00:33:10,289 --> 00:33:11,421
We kind of feel like maybe
782
00:33:11,523 --> 00:33:13,724
they just don't
entirely trust us yet.
783
00:33:13,826 --> 00:33:15,525
And they already have
a rapport with you.
784
00:33:16,662 --> 00:33:17,894
[ crash ]
785
00:33:19,498 --> 00:33:22,366
I just heard something
really loud drop right here.
786
00:33:26,805 --> 00:33:31,108
♪♪
787
00:33:31,210 --> 00:33:32,642
berry: We've been waiting
at the old jail
788
00:33:32,745 --> 00:33:33,910
in st. Augustine, florida,
789
00:33:34,013 --> 00:33:36,046
hoping to experience
some of the strange
790
00:33:36,148 --> 00:33:39,182
and violent paranormal
encounters people have had here.
791
00:33:39,284 --> 00:33:41,885
He does not want
to talk to us tonight.
792
00:33:41,987 --> 00:33:43,420
No, and I'm --
793
00:33:43,522 --> 00:33:45,055
but our investigation
has been quiet
794
00:33:45,157 --> 00:33:46,656
until we mentioned emmanuel,
795
00:33:46,759 --> 00:33:48,025
one of the jail's employees.
796
00:33:48,127 --> 00:33:50,160
Do you want emmanuel
to come in here?
797
00:33:51,196 --> 00:33:52,896
[ beeps ]
798
00:33:54,533 --> 00:33:55,632
we bring him in
in the beginning.
799
00:33:55,734 --> 00:33:57,501
We'll have him
walk us through.
800
00:33:57,603 --> 00:33:59,336
Just, like, give, like,
kind of, like, a,
801
00:33:59,438 --> 00:34:01,104
"these are my friends.
You can talk to them.
802
00:34:01,206 --> 00:34:03,707
They want to help.
I vouch for them."
803
00:34:03,809 --> 00:34:06,276
right. It's like we need to
reboot the investigation.
804
00:34:06,378 --> 00:34:08,145
Yeah. Like,
I feel like
805
00:34:08,247 --> 00:34:09,946
tonight we just kind of
waltzed in here
806
00:34:10,049 --> 00:34:12,516
and thought we owned the place,
and it shot us down.
807
00:34:12,618 --> 00:34:14,551
[ beeps ]
808
00:34:14,653 --> 00:34:16,520
-yeah, true.
-Okay, we got it.
809
00:34:16,622 --> 00:34:18,822
-That's so bizarre.
-Message received.
810
00:34:18,924 --> 00:34:25,395
♪♪
811
00:34:25,497 --> 00:34:27,431
berry: We brought in emmanuel
because he works here,
812
00:34:27,533 --> 00:34:29,733
and he has a lot of activity
that happens to him,
813
00:34:29,835 --> 00:34:32,269
and the purpose of him
introducing us to them
814
00:34:32,371 --> 00:34:34,771
is to make sure
that they understand
815
00:34:34,873 --> 00:34:37,207
that we don't mean
them any harm.
816
00:34:37,309 --> 00:34:38,442
We kind of
feel like maybe
817
00:34:38,544 --> 00:34:40,710
they just don't
entirely trust us yet,
818
00:34:40,813 --> 00:34:42,612
and they already have
a rapport with you,
819
00:34:42,714 --> 00:34:44,848
so we were hoping
maybe you could kind of
820
00:34:44,950 --> 00:34:47,284
walk through the jail
with us
821
00:34:47,386 --> 00:34:51,054
and really just truly
implore them to talk to us.
822
00:34:51,156 --> 00:34:52,155
You're here
to tell their story.
823
00:34:52,257 --> 00:34:54,024
-Exactly.
-Yeah, I can do that.
824
00:34:54,126 --> 00:34:58,128
♪♪
825
00:34:58,230 --> 00:35:01,031
I want to introduce you
to my friends.
826
00:35:01,133 --> 00:35:03,600
They're here
to tell your story.
827
00:35:03,702 --> 00:35:07,037
We know you have been
shy before.
828
00:35:07,139 --> 00:35:09,606
What can we do
to help you?
829
00:35:10,742 --> 00:35:12,142
Michael has a question now.
830
00:35:12,244 --> 00:35:13,410
You are so respectful.
831
00:35:13,512 --> 00:35:14,845
When do you think
is the right time
832
00:35:14,947 --> 00:35:16,746
to provoke a spirit
to communicate?
833
00:35:16,849 --> 00:35:18,582
If we start to get an idea
of who the person is
834
00:35:18,684 --> 00:35:20,317
and we know more
about their personality,
835
00:35:20,419 --> 00:35:23,153
and we think that maybe being
a little more abrasive
836
00:35:23,255 --> 00:35:26,156
would be appropriate,
then we'll go down that path.
837
00:35:26,258 --> 00:35:27,457
But it's definitely
something
838
00:35:27,559 --> 00:35:31,194
that we really think about
before we go there.
839
00:35:31,296 --> 00:35:33,663
Yeah, and if they start
scratching us or poking us,
840
00:35:33,765 --> 00:35:36,266
all bets are off.
841
00:35:36,368 --> 00:35:38,835
Berry: This case is interesting
because we kind of have a grasp
842
00:35:38,937 --> 00:35:40,237
on what we think is happening.
843
00:35:40,339 --> 00:35:43,440
The one person that we know that
is not a murderer is robert lee.
844
00:35:43,542 --> 00:35:46,076
And in order to confirm that,
we need a name.
845
00:35:46,178 --> 00:35:49,045
We need some sort of
solid evidence
846
00:35:49,148 --> 00:35:50,881
that points us
right to the person
847
00:35:50,983 --> 00:35:52,749
who we think is innocent.
848
00:35:52,851 --> 00:35:54,885
We're genuinely here
just to talk to you
849
00:35:54,987 --> 00:35:56,820
and get to know you.
850
00:35:56,922 --> 00:36:00,390
And so we brought you
some bourbon,
851
00:36:00,492 --> 00:36:02,993
and we brought you
some cigars.
852
00:36:03,095 --> 00:36:05,295
Amy and I like to use different
kinds of trigger objects
853
00:36:05,397 --> 00:36:07,297
so that we can present it
to them and say,
854
00:36:07,399 --> 00:36:08,665
"hey, guys, look,
this is for you.
855
00:36:08,767 --> 00:36:10,233
We are here to talk to you.
856
00:36:10,335 --> 00:36:12,335
Open up to us,
if you will," you know?
857
00:36:12,437 --> 00:36:14,371
♪♪
858
00:36:14,473 --> 00:36:16,039
I know
you're down here.
859
00:36:16,141 --> 00:36:19,910
Do you know
who jim kirby is?
860
00:36:22,447 --> 00:36:25,248
Do you know
who robert lee is?
861
00:36:25,350 --> 00:36:28,818
♪♪
862
00:36:28,921 --> 00:36:30,353
we're trying
to figure out
863
00:36:30,489 --> 00:36:32,322
if it's robert lee
who's here,
864
00:36:32,424 --> 00:36:34,791
who told us he's not
a murderer.
865
00:36:34,893 --> 00:36:38,962
We know that you died
on-site here.
866
00:36:41,233 --> 00:36:43,200
Alright.
Let's play it back.
867
00:36:43,302 --> 00:36:44,768
This first one.
868
00:36:53,845 --> 00:36:55,045
[ crash ]
869
00:36:59,084 --> 00:37:01,785
I just heard something
really loud drop, right here.
870
00:37:01,887 --> 00:37:03,987
Here, who told ushe's not a murderer.
[ crash ]
871
00:37:04,089 --> 00:37:08,225
♪♪
872
00:37:08,327 --> 00:37:09,960
who just whispered?
873
00:37:10,062 --> 00:37:10,994
I heard that,
that [whooshes]
874
00:37:11,096 --> 00:37:12,529
who just whispered?
875
00:37:12,631 --> 00:37:17,867
♪♪
876
00:37:17,970 --> 00:37:19,869
I'm in here
by myself now.
877
00:37:19,972 --> 00:37:22,505
Do you know
who robert lee is?
878
00:37:23,976 --> 00:37:26,276
Did you hear that?
879
00:37:28,347 --> 00:37:33,617
♪♪
880
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,418
berry: We're back
investigating the old jail,
881
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,587
and a former inmate who's been
physically aggressive
882
00:37:37,689 --> 00:37:40,824
with guests and employees
is making contact.
883
00:37:40,926 --> 00:37:44,594
♪♪
884
00:37:44,696 --> 00:37:46,162
who just whispered?
885
00:37:46,265 --> 00:37:47,197
I heard that,
that [whooshes]
886
00:37:47,299 --> 00:37:48,465
who just whispered?
887
00:37:48,567 --> 00:37:50,000
I heard it
right here, though.
888
00:37:50,102 --> 00:37:52,669
♪♪
889
00:37:52,771 --> 00:37:55,438
I legit heard,
like, a whisper.
890
00:37:55,540 --> 00:37:56,706
I heard it in there.
891
00:37:56,808 --> 00:37:59,609
So it had to have been
in this general vicinity.
892
00:37:59,711 --> 00:38:01,111
How do you know
if you're communicating
893
00:38:01,213 --> 00:38:04,447
with robert lee or john doe?
894
00:38:04,549 --> 00:38:06,850
All you need to do
is just say a few words
895
00:38:06,952 --> 00:38:09,252
so we are sure it's you,
and that's it.
896
00:38:09,354 --> 00:38:11,154
So, the evidence for us
was pretty clear.
897
00:38:11,256 --> 00:38:13,423
We got a reaction
when we talked about the warden.
898
00:38:13,525 --> 00:38:15,792
We looked up the dates that
he was active in the prison.
899
00:38:15,894 --> 00:38:18,261
We looked up those
who were hanged on the gallows.
900
00:38:18,363 --> 00:38:20,497
And robert lee was the one
that was missing,
901
00:38:20,599 --> 00:38:22,332
and he was the one
that was innocent,
902
00:38:22,434 --> 00:38:25,835
like, actively
factually innocent.
903
00:38:25,937 --> 00:38:27,704
And we got reaction to that
when we asked about it.
904
00:38:27,806 --> 00:38:30,140
So I think we were definitely
on the right track.
905
00:38:30,242 --> 00:38:31,274
It was
a disembodied voice.
906
00:38:31,376 --> 00:38:33,877
I hate
disembodied voices.
907
00:38:33,979 --> 00:38:35,312
What if they wanted me
to go in here
908
00:38:35,414 --> 00:38:37,947
to get close to you?
909
00:38:38,050 --> 00:38:39,749
Okay.
910
00:38:39,851 --> 00:38:41,217
Get out.
911
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:42,886
[ beeping ]
let's do this.
912
00:38:42,988 --> 00:38:45,155
Come here,
sit with me.
913
00:38:45,257 --> 00:38:46,956
These guys
are going to leave.
914
00:38:47,059 --> 00:38:48,858
Don't go too far, though,
because I'm really creeped out.
915
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,327
No, no, no,
it's okay.
916
00:38:52,130 --> 00:38:54,798
I'm in here
by myself now.
917
00:38:54,900 --> 00:38:58,168
So, again, this red light...
918
00:38:58,270 --> 00:38:59,636
Is that you?
919
00:39:01,907 --> 00:39:02,939
Did you hear that?
920
00:39:03,041 --> 00:39:04,240
Berry: Yeah, I heard it
on this other side.
921
00:39:04,343 --> 00:39:05,642
Hold on. Let me...
I'm going to -- you know what?
922
00:39:05,744 --> 00:39:07,310
You keep going.
I'm going to circle around.
923
00:39:07,412 --> 00:39:08,345
Okay.
924
00:39:08,447 --> 00:39:11,181
Do you know
who robert lee is?
925
00:39:11,283 --> 00:39:15,585
Do you want everyone to know
that you were wronged?
926
00:39:15,687 --> 00:39:18,655
If we tell the world
that you were innocent,
927
00:39:18,757 --> 00:39:20,924
will you leave this place
and move on
928
00:39:21,026 --> 00:39:24,427
to where you're supposed to be?
929
00:39:24,529 --> 00:39:26,930
All you need to do
is just say a few words
930
00:39:27,032 --> 00:39:29,699
so we're sure it's you,
and that's it.
931
00:39:29,801 --> 00:39:31,267
We'll tell everyone.
932
00:39:31,370 --> 00:39:33,536
Alright. I'm going to listen
back to this, and then...
933
00:39:33,638 --> 00:39:34,904
[ sighs ]
934
00:39:39,644 --> 00:39:40,643
lee! Lee!
935
00:39:40,746 --> 00:39:42,278
Is that --
lee!
936
00:39:42,381 --> 00:39:43,480
He says lee.
937
00:39:43,582 --> 00:39:45,448
[ static crackles ]
ooh!
938
00:39:49,521 --> 00:39:50,453
Mmm.
939
00:39:50,555 --> 00:39:51,488
Is that yes?
940
00:39:51,590 --> 00:39:53,089
It's a yes.
941
00:40:09,074 --> 00:40:10,473
[ static crackles ]
942
00:40:10,575 --> 00:40:11,941
both: "tell them."
943
00:40:16,815 --> 00:40:18,615
"tell them."
yeah.
944
00:40:20,352 --> 00:40:21,851
Wow.
Well, that worked.
945
00:40:21,953 --> 00:40:23,820
Mm.
I'm, like, getting anxious
946
00:40:23,922 --> 00:40:26,022
just thinking about
that whole moment.
947
00:40:26,124 --> 00:40:27,757
Like, are we gonna
get the right answers
948
00:40:27,859 --> 00:40:30,427
that we need
to solve this case?
949
00:40:30,529 --> 00:40:34,330
Schrader: Our last question
comes from diana, who asks,
950
00:40:34,433 --> 00:40:35,832
"do you ever have entities
951
00:40:35,934 --> 00:40:37,901
follow you home
from investigations
952
00:40:38,003 --> 00:40:41,838
after they discover
that you can communicate?"
953
00:40:41,940 --> 00:40:43,573
theoretically,
if they have intelligence
954
00:40:43,675 --> 00:40:46,743
and they have the ability
to be in different places,
955
00:40:46,845 --> 00:40:49,012
what's to say
they aren't going to show up
956
00:40:49,114 --> 00:40:51,281
in your bedroom at night?
Kind of frightening.
957
00:40:51,383 --> 00:40:53,316
Lee, we're going to tell
your story, okay?
958
00:40:53,418 --> 00:40:54,951
We're going to
tell everyone.
959
00:40:55,053 --> 00:40:56,920
Yeah, you don't have to
be here, sir.
960
00:40:57,022 --> 00:40:59,289
Bruni: Finally, tonight,
we heard the name lee
961
00:40:59,391 --> 00:41:00,990
as well as a few other evps
962
00:41:01,092 --> 00:41:02,725
that just really kind of
solidified to us
963
00:41:02,828 --> 00:41:04,127
that that's
who we're talking to,
964
00:41:04,229 --> 00:41:07,163
and he seemed very interested
in getting his story told.
965
00:41:07,265 --> 00:41:10,600
He wanted people to understand
that he was innocent.
966
00:41:10,702 --> 00:41:13,269
Berry:
Now that the world will know
robert lee was not a murderer,
967
00:41:13,371 --> 00:41:15,171
he should be able
to find peace and move on,
968
00:41:15,273 --> 00:41:17,073
knowing that his story
has been told
969
00:41:17,175 --> 00:41:18,775
and his name has been cleared.
970
00:41:18,877 --> 00:41:22,579
This episode was so powerful
in many different ways.
971
00:41:22,681 --> 00:41:25,515
Just hopeless.
972
00:41:25,617 --> 00:41:27,417
Chip: It was the perfect
paranormal storm.
973
00:41:27,519 --> 00:41:31,488
All the elements
just sort of tied up all --
974
00:41:31,590 --> 00:41:34,157
a lot of loose ends with
what was going on in that space,
975
00:41:34,259 --> 00:41:35,758
bruni:
In that particular spot,
976
00:41:35,861 --> 00:41:37,527
there's a lot of sadness.
977
00:41:37,629 --> 00:41:39,829
And I'm glad
we could tell one story.
978
00:41:39,931 --> 00:41:42,465
And there are probably
so many more. And it's like that
979
00:41:42,534 --> 00:41:45,435
in so many of these
haunted locations we go to.
980
00:41:45,537 --> 00:41:47,470
Are you still looking
for new cases?
981
00:41:47,572 --> 00:41:49,472
Always. Yes.
982
00:41:49,574 --> 00:41:51,574
I mean, if you've got a case,
if something's happening to you
983
00:41:51,676 --> 00:41:53,109
and you need help,
just reach out to us.
984
00:41:53,211 --> 00:41:54,244
We're glad to help.
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