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Hello?
Travis.
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Hey, Thomas.
‐Hey, I'm not sure
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where you're at
on the property,
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but, uh, there's something
going on out here.
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Come over here
and check it out.
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Hey, y'all.
I'd recommend not to touch it
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till we see
if it's radioactive or not.
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Too late.
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Tom and I rolled it over
just to see
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if we could see
any animal markings on it.
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‐No sign of trauma...
What in the world?
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There's no cat tracks,
there's no sign of struggle.
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Middle of the day.
‐It's just dead.
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It's hard to kill a cow.
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Check it with
the Geiger counter, Dragon.
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I saw her this morning,
but she was alive.
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That late morning?
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Lookit, the meter's
just going crazy, man.
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Jumping high,
then it jumps back to zero.
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13, 14, we're at 15‐‐ 16.
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‐Is it still doing...
‐Lookit‐‐ hey,
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it's at, it's at five‐‐ it's 18.
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It just jumped to 18 just then.
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Jim, are you seeing anything
on the spectrum analyzer?
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Actually, I am.
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You are? What are you seeing?
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Something down
in the lower areas.
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So, I'm getting
some pretty high spikes.
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‐Some of the stuff
like you saw yesterday.
‐See that?
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‐What does this mean?
‐Well, uh, we don't know
what it is,
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but we're seeing it
with multiple instruments.
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‐So this is something...
‐Something could be happening
right now
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out of the ordinary.
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We need to get
out of here, guys.
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Is there really a safe place
on this ranch?
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We're quickly losing places
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that are safe to go
on this ranch.
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Gentlemen,
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I'd like to introduce
Travis Taylor.
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‐I'll let Brandon
know you're ready.
‐Thank you.
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‐You're welcome.
‐Hey, Travis. Jim Morse.
‐Hey.
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I'm Dr. Travis Taylor.
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I'm a scientist
and a physicist,
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and I've got 25 years
or more, uh, experience
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in the aerospace and defense
industry working with NASA,
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the Department of Defense
and the intelligence community.
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‐Travis?
‐I have degrees
in electrical engineering,
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aerospace engineering,
astronomy,
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physics, optical sciences.
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And I was invited
to come out here
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to work with this team
to investigate this area
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known as Skinwalker Ranch.
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‐Where'd you fly in from?
‐From Huntsville, Alabama.
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‐All right.
‐Yeah, it's where
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the rockets that went
to the Moon were built.
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‐Hi, Travis.
‐Hey, Brandon. How you doing?
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‐Brandon Fugal. I'm...
‐Yeah, nice to meet you.
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...the new owner
of Skinwalker Ranch.
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I see you've been able
to get acquainted
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‐with our team.
‐Yeah.
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Erik Bard is our
principal investigator.
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Dr. Segala has been
the scientist.
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Tom Winterton,
our ranch superintendent.
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Jim Morse is our ranch manager
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and Bryant Arnold,
otherwise known as "Dragon,"
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head of security.
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Thank you for coming together.
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This is the most unique
science project of its kind
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because we've verified
and documented
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that some of the most
disturbing, unexplained events
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in the past decades,
if not hundreds of years,
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have occurred on this property.
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That sounds exciting
and a litt‐‐
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‐maybe even
a little bit scary, right?
‐Right.
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I'm Brandon Fugal,
chairman and owner
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of the largest commercial real
estate enterprise here in Utah.
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I'm also an investor
and cofounder
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of other enterprises
involving technology.
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I grew up middle class,
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with a very strong
religious upbringing.
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And that upbringing has only
helped strengthen my belief
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that there is more to our
existence than meets the eye.
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And I am still looking
for the nature of the universe
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and asking some
of these core questions:
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Where did we come from?
Why are we here?
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Where are we going?
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I truly believe that
Skinwalker Ranch is a place
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where some of the these
questions may be answered,
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or at least better understood.
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So this shows,
from an aerial view, the ranch.
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Our 512 acres lies in
the center of the Uinta Basin.
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The Uinta Basin.
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I mean‐‐ is that, like, one of
the Indian tribes or something?
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‐The Uintah tribe?
‐Yes. And it is named
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‐after the Ute tribe.
‐Okay.
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And the entire property
is surrounded
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by, uh, Ute tribal properties.
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Well, so, one question
I have is why
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is it called Skinwalker Ranch?
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What is the‐the lore
of it, right?
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Well, it's a phenomenon,
is what it is.
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‐It goes back hundreds of years.
Native Americans
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talk of shape‐shifting demonic
entities called skinwalkers
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that take on the form of a, of
a large werewolf‐like creature
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‐and also a number
of other shapes.
‐Wow.
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The Native American people,
for generations, referred
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to this property as being
in the path of the skinwalker.
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And they called the mesa
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that runs the expanse of this
property Skinwalker Ridge.
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So that's really
the namesake of the property.
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I see, I see.
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As early as 1911,
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newspaper reports profiled
strange noises in the basin
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and the homesteaders started
seeing unexplained phenomena.
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And by 1979,
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there were a lot
of UFO sightings
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in the basin being documented.
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People had
really acute medical episodes.
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Everything from
incidents of nausea,
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perception‐altering experiences,
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vertigo, temporary paralysis.
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And then the Sherman family,
in 1992,
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acquired the property
and were witness
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to some of the most
disturbing events on record.
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Cattle mutilations.
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These were daylight
cattle mutilations.
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We're talking very surgically
precise dissections
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of these cattle.
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They were drained
of their blood.
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And there was no blood
to be found underneath them.
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As much as 25% of the herd
at that time were lost.
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Wow.
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In 1996,
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the reports
of the Sherman family
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led billionaire Robert Bigelow
to acquire the property
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and to commence an
unprecedented scientific study.
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Bigelow came in with his team,
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National Institute
of Discovery Science, or NIDS,
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that transitioned
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to Bigelow Aerospace
Advanced Space Studies,
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which was funded
by the U. S. government
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and kept highly confidential.
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It was a very aggressive effort.
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And as part of that,
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it was staffed at one time
by dozens of professionals.
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Many of those professionals
to this day
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refuse to ever set foot
on this ranch ever again
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for the rest of their lives.
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‐Really?
‐Literally.
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‐That's right.
‐Wow.
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That brings us to present day.
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In 2016,
I purchased Skinwalker Ranch
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and assembled our team
to carry this investigation
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forward into the next level.
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‐And what is that?
‐We've started
deploying technology
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devised by Erik Bard,
our principal investigator,
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related to monitoring
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and recording the events
happening on the ranch.
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Right, that makes sense.
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One of the first things
that we captured:
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a 500‐foot section
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of the mesa
became totally illuminated.
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That's‐that's wild.
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We have seen several instances
of compact light pillars,
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these columns of light that
have appeared above the mesa.
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I'm looking at
this picture, and I believe
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I'm seeing scatter
off of the lower cloud cover,
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which implies
that it's going upward.
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And there's no used car lot
on the other side,
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where they're having
a spotlight
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‐shining up?
‐Nope.
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‐That's interesting.
‐There is also
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a bright luminous object
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that came into view
in the western sky
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and disappeared
behind the mesa.
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And it travelled at a speed
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that was not consistent
with typical aircraft.
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Plus, at that time,
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there was no
historical flight data
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showing commercial
or private air traffic.
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That's intriguing.
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Indeed.
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I‐I really am curious
as to why exactly am I here?
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What is it I'm supposed
to be figuring out?
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Right. I think, you,
as an experimentalist,
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you would bring
to the table a lot more
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stringent protocols
than what's here now.
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‐Okay.
‐We want your perspective.
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We've noticed
that when we bring new people
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onto the ranch,
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the ranch behaves differently
than it normally does.
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It's just a place, right?
I mean, and...
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And you guys think
that it's going
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to behave
when I show up there, right?
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Where there's smoke,
there's fire, and there's things
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that go on that ranch that
I cannot get my head around.
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That ranch can push back.
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We'd like to fly you out
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to the property tomorrow.
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My brother will be
escorting you,
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so you can see
the ranch firsthand.
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I'm not sure
what we're gonna find,
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but I can't wait to see
what we're gonna find.
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Great.
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So, Travis,
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tell me honestly,
do‐do you think I'm crazy?
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Well,
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I think some of the stories
are crazy,
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but just because the stories
sound crazy
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doesn't mean that there's not
something to it.
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So, no, I don't think
you're crazy, Brandon.
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I think it's intriguing,
is what I can say.
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There has to be
something more to it.
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Yep. Are we truly alone
in the universe?
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Welcome to Aero Dynamic.
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‐So this is the hangar?
‐Yep.
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Hey, Brandon.
‐These are my brothers.
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‐How are you?
‐This is my brother Cameron.
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‐Travis Taylor. Yeah.
‐Good to meet you, Travis.
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‐My brother Matt.
‐Nice to meet you too, man.
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Nice to meet you.
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So we're going to be
in this helicopter today?
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Yep, this is the Airbus H130.
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H130, Okay.
‐We'll be flying
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‐at 10,000 feet.
‐Aw, that sounds awesome.
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Safe flight, uh, and good luck
at Skinwalker Ranch.
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Go with engine startup.
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All systems are check.
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We'll proceed on our way.
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You probably want to get
down there
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‐and get boots
on the ground, don't you?
‐Yep, I do. Absolutely.
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I want to get down
and start walking.
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I want to cover every inch
of the place.
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What do you think about
the ranch?
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‐Those are some strange stories.
‐Oh, yeah.
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What do you think
about all that?
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Well, it's interesting.
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I originally went from believing
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that it was just kind of
all foo‐foo
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to thinking there might be
something, uh, to this, based on
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what I've
experienced personally.
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Stuff has happened.
There's times where I've felt
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I don't really want to be there.
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Not knowing what's, what's
causing some of the anomalies
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that are out there.
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My main concern is just
to make sure that we're safe
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going in and out
of the property.
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‐Oh, I agree with that.
‐Especially in aviation,
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you do the best you can
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‐to minimize any danger
or risks.
‐Yeah.
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You do your preflight checks,
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you make sure the maintenance
is right;
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but even then,
there's still some things
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that you don't
have control over.
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And so for every flight I go on,
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I always say a little prayer,
just try to keep it simple.
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‐Okay.
‐And so I'd love to do that
if you are open to that.
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‐Absolutely, sure.
‐All right.
259
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Heavenly Father, we're grateful
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for this opportunity
to fly today,
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and to do some exploring
and‐and research,
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and explore the sciences.
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We ask for safety today.
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Protect us as we come
into this ranch.
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And we say these things in
the name of Jesus Christ, amen.
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Amen.
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We're approaching the ranch.
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We're going to go low level
down over the entrance
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to show you the guard shack.
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All systems are check,
we're descending
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down onto the property now.
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Below you'll see the gate,
the concrete barriers,
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‐and the signage.
‐Right. Yeah, I see that.
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And then the guard shack.
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As Cameron flew me into
Skinwalker Ranch,
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my first impression is
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it's in the middle of nowhere.
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It's not anything unusual
to look at
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from any of the other land
around it;
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it's the things that are
supposedly happening here
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that makes it unusual.
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Now, where is it
where the mountain
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is glowing in the video
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‐that they showed me?
‐So I'll show you the ridge.
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Skinwalker Ridge.
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It's over in this area
that I don't typically fly over
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based on reports they had of
light originating in the area.
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So we'll kind of
skirt around this.
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So, right there at your
one o'clock, the mesa plateau.
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‐And it's this, this ridge here
that's glowing?
‐Yeah.
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‐Yep.
‐Huh.
292
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It's where they detected it
on the cameras.
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Wow.
‐The scientists have
cautioned me to‐‐
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to be careful here,
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uh, due to the potential
for any energy
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or any other disruption of
the helicopter. I stay away.
297
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I just, I felt uneasy
flying over that
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with what I saw in the video.
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‐Really?
‐Just to make sure.
300
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Well, you know,
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if it's some kind of
electromagnetic phenomena,
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‐it could affect the avionics,
right?
‐Yeah. Yeah.
303
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Make it unsafe.
So, I can understand that.
304
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My primary
goal is safety.
Oh, yeah.
305
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So there's Homestead 1 here.
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This is the primary homestead
down below in the trees.
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Then along the ridge,
there's Homestead 2...
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...and then, uh, Homestead 3
will be down
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‐on the western side
of the property there.
‐Okay.
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A lot of the activity,
for whatever reason,
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seems to be centered around
the old homesteads.
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These over‐100‐year‐old
structures.
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And that activity is not only
UFO‐related,
314
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it involves the full gamut
of unexplained phenomena
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that we continue to monitor.
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Really intriguing.
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I hope not to leave here
more perplexed
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than when I came in, right?
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‐
‐That's right.
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One of the things
that excites me the most
321
00:14:48,346 --> 00:14:51,057
about this ranch, and, uh,
the investigation team,
322
00:14:51,057 --> 00:14:55,228
and doing this, uh, research,
is... what if?
323
00:14:55,228 --> 00:14:56,437
That's the big thing.
324
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What if some of it's real?
325
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What if this really
is an answer
326
00:14:59,982 --> 00:15:03,236
to one of the big questions
that Brandon had?
327
00:15:03,236 --> 00:15:05,655
Maybe we'll get some insight.
328
00:15:07,156 --> 00:15:09,367
Hey, guys.
Hey, Travis.
329
00:15:09,367 --> 00:15:12,411
You made it.
‐Yeah. It was a great flight
coming in.
330
00:15:12,411 --> 00:15:13,788
‐It was beautiful.
Good to see you. Welcome.
331
00:15:13,788 --> 00:15:14,914
How you doing?
‐Nice to have you.
332
00:15:14,914 --> 00:15:15,873
Yeah, it's good to see you guys.
333
00:15:15,873 --> 00:15:17,041
Welcome to Skinwalker.
334
00:15:17,041 --> 00:15:18,417
Yeah, thanks, man.
Glad to be here.
335
00:15:18,417 --> 00:15:19,418
‐What's going on, Dragon?
‐Hey, Trav.
336
00:15:19,418 --> 00:15:21,254
How you doing, buddy?
337
00:15:21,254 --> 00:15:23,005
‐Let me introduce you
to Kaleb here.
‐Hey, Kaleb. How you doing?
338
00:15:23,005 --> 00:15:25,424
This is my right‐hand man.
339
00:15:25,424 --> 00:15:26,926
We'll be taking good care of you
while you're here.
340
00:15:26,926 --> 00:15:29,387
My name is Bryant Arnold.
341
00:15:29,387 --> 00:15:32,431
And my main role is the head
of security here.
342
00:15:32,431 --> 00:15:35,601
The reason that we take
security so seriously is
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we need to protect the
scientific integrity of things
344
00:15:37,854 --> 00:15:41,399
going on, and protect
the people that live here.
345
00:15:41,399 --> 00:15:44,110
Skinwalker Ranch piques
people's interest,
346
00:15:44,110 --> 00:15:45,778
and so with that we get
a lot of people
347
00:15:45,778 --> 00:15:48,364
that try to sneak
onto the property.
348
00:15:48,364 --> 00:15:50,950
We carry weapons because
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we don't know
what we're dealing with,
350
00:15:52,785 --> 00:15:54,287
and it's a dangerous place,
351
00:15:54,287 --> 00:15:56,831
between the natural things
that are here
352
00:15:56,831 --> 00:15:59,250
and then also the unknown.
353
00:15:59,250 --> 00:16:00,668
Well, it's nice to meet you.
354
00:16:00,668 --> 00:16:01,961
‐I got to get back to it, so...
All right,
355
00:16:01,961 --> 00:16:03,129
‐thank you, man.
‐Yep. Have a good one.
356
00:16:03,129 --> 00:16:05,089
I'm excited to be here, man.
357
00:16:05,089 --> 00:16:06,883
I can't wait to start
looking around.
358
00:16:06,883 --> 00:16:08,926
Well, let's show you
the command center,
359
00:16:08,926 --> 00:16:11,679
real quick, and, uh,
start the tour.
360
00:16:11,679 --> 00:16:13,639
Let's do it.
361
00:16:13,639 --> 00:16:16,475
So this is the command center.
362
00:16:16,475 --> 00:16:17,935
This is the command center.
363
00:16:17,935 --> 00:16:19,478
A few things that
we've collected
364
00:16:19,478 --> 00:16:22,481
over the last couple years
as we've been here.
365
00:16:22,481 --> 00:16:24,901
Ah, cool.
I like all the pictures.
366
00:16:27,278 --> 00:16:28,988
Erik, you ought to show him
the control room.
367
00:16:28,988 --> 00:16:30,823
Sure. Travis, come take a look.
368
00:16:30,823 --> 00:16:33,326
Is this where all
the instruments are piped into?
369
00:16:33,326 --> 00:16:35,536
That it is.
‐The nerve center.
370
00:16:37,079 --> 00:16:39,248
This is our inner sanctum.
371
00:16:41,167 --> 00:16:43,836
Inner sanctum, I love that.
372
00:16:43,836 --> 00:16:45,671
So it's a work in progress,
but you can see...
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00:16:45,671 --> 00:16:47,006
‐Yeah...
‐Surveillance assets;
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00:16:47,006 --> 00:16:49,342
see the systems that we've got
online right now.
375
00:16:49,342 --> 00:16:50,968
My name is Erik Bard.
376
00:16:50,968 --> 00:16:52,887
I've been acting
as principal investigator
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00:16:52,887 --> 00:16:55,848
at the Skinwalker Ranch site
since 2016.
378
00:16:55,848 --> 00:16:59,310
Brandon has entrusted me
with the first phase
379
00:16:59,310 --> 00:17:02,647
of the investigation
under his watch.
380
00:17:02,647 --> 00:17:05,691
That phase is a phase of...
381
00:17:05,691 --> 00:17:07,318
observational science.
382
00:17:07,318 --> 00:17:10,321
We're observing the property,
383
00:17:10,321 --> 00:17:12,531
primarily looking
for phenomena,
384
00:17:12,531 --> 00:17:17,536
and real evidence that
there's something here on site.
385
00:17:17,536 --> 00:17:20,164
The idea of building
a control room
386
00:17:20,164 --> 00:17:23,834
was born out of necessity,
so that I can observe
387
00:17:23,834 --> 00:17:25,544
what's happening at all hours.
388
00:17:25,544 --> 00:17:28,881
We have surveillance assets
allowing us to see
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00:17:28,881 --> 00:17:31,425
in various directions
across the property.
390
00:17:33,219 --> 00:17:36,222
We have thermographic
imaging cameras,
391
00:17:36,222 --> 00:17:39,392
night‐vision equipment.
392
00:17:39,392 --> 00:17:41,227
And so we've got
the weather data.
393
00:17:41,227 --> 00:17:43,896
Always important.
Temperature, humidity.
394
00:17:43,896 --> 00:17:45,898
The daily rain...
Right.
395
00:17:45,898 --> 00:17:47,608
‐And what have we got here?
‐You're looking at the output
396
00:17:47,608 --> 00:17:50,403
from the SATAN platform,
which is actually right there.
397
00:17:50,403 --> 00:17:53,114
Okay.
We also have a platform
that I designed,
398
00:17:53,114 --> 00:17:55,366
to which I've given the name
SATAN; it's an acronym
399
00:17:55,366 --> 00:17:59,495
for Sentinel Assignment,
Telemetry and Notification.
400
00:18:01,247 --> 00:18:03,040
It's a device
that allows us to measure
401
00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,710
vibrations in the ground
and to record sounds
402
00:18:05,710 --> 00:18:09,088
that are below the frequency
range of human hearing.
403
00:18:10,590 --> 00:18:12,633
The device
is constantly measuring,
404
00:18:12,633 --> 00:18:14,844
and whenever we get
a signal of interest,
405
00:18:14,844 --> 00:18:17,096
‐it lets me know about it.
‐Okay.
406
00:18:17,096 --> 00:18:20,808
‐This is the transponders
for the airplanes?
‐Right, so this
407
00:18:20,808 --> 00:18:22,935
is air traffic over the ranch
right now.
408
00:18:22,935 --> 00:18:26,606
We also have
an avionics receiver
409
00:18:26,606 --> 00:18:29,442
that receives the signals
being emitted by aircraft
410
00:18:29,442 --> 00:18:32,612
identifying them
by their tail numbers.
411
00:18:32,612 --> 00:18:35,448
The purpose of
the avionics receiver
412
00:18:35,448 --> 00:18:37,491
is to help us discern between
413
00:18:37,491 --> 00:18:40,286
things of known origin‐‐
aircraft‐‐
414
00:18:40,286 --> 00:18:43,497
and bright light sources
415
00:18:43,497 --> 00:18:46,334
that have
no identifying information.
416
00:18:46,334 --> 00:18:50,212
And we've seen things that are
actually quite unexpected
417
00:18:50,212 --> 00:18:52,089
and confusing.
418
00:18:52,089 --> 00:18:53,758
But I'm not here to believe,
419
00:18:53,758 --> 00:18:56,469
I am not here to disbelieve,
I'm here to observe.
420
00:18:56,469 --> 00:18:59,221
Well, what'd you think?
421
00:18:59,221 --> 00:19:01,849
Oh, it's the inner sanctum.
That was awesome, man.
422
00:19:01,849 --> 00:19:04,935
We got a lot to see.
I think we ought to get you out
423
00:19:04,935 --> 00:19:06,270
‐and get going.
‐Yeah, I'd love to.
424
00:19:06,270 --> 00:19:08,064
Okay. Let's go get started.
425
00:19:09,482 --> 00:19:11,150
So, are we driving or walking?
426
00:19:11,150 --> 00:19:12,485
It's more than a walk,
427
00:19:12,485 --> 00:19:14,236
so why don't we take the UTV?
428
00:19:14,236 --> 00:19:15,571
I got shotgun!
429
00:19:15,571 --> 00:19:17,531
This is great.
430
00:19:19,617 --> 00:19:21,661
All right, you're about
to see some really cool stuff.
431
00:19:21,661 --> 00:19:23,454
Yeah?
We're gonna go
see the mesa.
432
00:19:29,418 --> 00:19:31,087
You know, on our way
over to the mesa,
433
00:19:31,087 --> 00:19:33,381
there's something I want
to show you real quick.
434
00:19:33,381 --> 00:19:36,425
‐You want to see it
for just a second?
Yeah! Heck, yeah.
435
00:19:36,425 --> 00:19:39,261
My hope for being out here
at Skinwalker Ranch
436
00:19:39,261 --> 00:19:40,471
is to get some answers.
437
00:19:40,471 --> 00:19:43,057
There's so many stories
about, you know,
438
00:19:43,057 --> 00:19:46,060
boogeymen and aliens
and whatever else.
439
00:19:46,060 --> 00:19:47,728
If there is something
happening out here
440
00:19:47,728 --> 00:19:49,689
that's unusual,
I want to find out.
441
00:19:55,152 --> 00:19:57,655
So, Travis, a lot of
interesting things.
442
00:19:57,655 --> 00:19:59,949
So this used to be
a very operational ranch,
443
00:19:59,949 --> 00:20:02,785
where they had the cattle,
they would process right here.
444
00:20:02,785 --> 00:20:06,163
They had calves in this area.
They had bulls in this area.
445
00:20:06,163 --> 00:20:08,833
You mean when the‐the Shermans
owned the place...
446
00:20:08,833 --> 00:20:10,376
When the Shermans occupied
the, uh, the ranch here.
447
00:20:13,129 --> 00:20:14,797
Everything that
I have researched
448
00:20:14,797 --> 00:20:17,299
relative to the Sherman family
leads me to believe
449
00:20:17,299 --> 00:20:21,512
that they were subjected to
such an intense amount
450
00:20:21,512 --> 00:20:24,849
of disturbing activity.
451
00:20:24,849 --> 00:20:28,686
They experienced everything
from UFO sightings
452
00:20:28,686 --> 00:20:32,189
to countless
cattle mutilations.
453
00:20:32,189 --> 00:20:35,401
They had beasts or entities
454
00:20:35,401 --> 00:20:37,653
that would appear to them.
455
00:20:37,653 --> 00:20:40,030
I don't blame them
for selling the property.
456
00:20:40,030 --> 00:20:42,116
They were terrorized.
457
00:20:43,284 --> 00:20:46,412
There's a story where
458
00:20:46,412 --> 00:20:47,413
a very large wolf
459
00:20:47,413 --> 00:20:49,248
came in off the plains.
460
00:20:49,248 --> 00:20:54,170
And a group of calves
were in this pen right here.
461
00:20:54,170 --> 00:20:57,465
The wolf put his head through,
462
00:20:57,465 --> 00:21:00,468
and started pulling one
of the calves out of the fence.
463
00:21:00,468 --> 00:21:04,138
The Shermans, seeing that,
the father then went inside,
464
00:21:04,138 --> 00:21:07,308
got a weapon, and came out
and started shooting at it.
465
00:21:07,308 --> 00:21:09,560
Point blank, you know,
right here.
466
00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,563
Shooting at the wolf.
467
00:21:12,563 --> 00:21:14,648
Right, like a .357,
468
00:21:14,648 --> 00:21:17,067
and then that
didn't do anything,
469
00:21:17,067 --> 00:21:18,736
so apparently,
it let them go back in
470
00:21:18,736 --> 00:21:20,571
and a bigger gun, and I guess
471
00:21:20,571 --> 00:21:23,407
that's what it took to let it‐‐
to make it drop the calf.
472
00:21:23,407 --> 00:21:26,744
And the story goes
that this animal
473
00:21:26,744 --> 00:21:30,748
was strong enough
to withstand, allegedly,
474
00:21:30,748 --> 00:21:33,083
six shots from a .357
475
00:21:33,083 --> 00:21:35,461
and a couple shots
from a .30‐06 rifle.
476
00:21:38,964 --> 00:21:41,133
So they pursued after it,
477
00:21:41,133 --> 00:21:43,969
and as they got
to the part of the ranch
478
00:21:43,969 --> 00:21:46,680
where the river
bisects the property,
479
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,683
they could see tracks
going down the mud
480
00:21:49,683 --> 00:21:52,436
and starting up the side
of the bank on the other side
481
00:21:52,436 --> 00:21:54,230
and then disappearing
into nothing,
482
00:21:54,230 --> 00:21:56,482
as if the thing
had just vaporized.
483
00:21:56,482 --> 00:22:01,320
And so, there are rumors
and stories that have come out
484
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:05,324
about all sorts of really
fantastic happenings here.
485
00:22:05,324 --> 00:22:06,784
I‐I know, uh,
486
00:22:06,784 --> 00:22:08,410
the stories of the skinwalker,
487
00:22:08,410 --> 00:22:09,787
the shape‐shifter thing,
isn't one of the things
488
00:22:09,787 --> 00:22:12,122
that it's supposed to turn into
is like a big wolf?
489
00:22:12,122 --> 00:22:14,834
‐That's correct.
‐That's strange, right?
490
00:22:14,834 --> 00:22:17,336
So to the mesa?
491
00:22:17,336 --> 00:22:19,380
‐Yeah, let's head over
to the mesa.
‐All right.
492
00:22:19,380 --> 00:22:21,382
I'm not entirely convinced
493
00:22:21,382 --> 00:22:23,300
that this stuff
can't be explained.
494
00:22:23,300 --> 00:22:26,637
So I'm really eager
to see for myself
495
00:22:26,637 --> 00:22:28,472
what's happening on this ranch.
496
00:22:28,472 --> 00:22:30,224
Okay, ready?
497
00:22:30,224 --> 00:22:31,684
Yup.
498
00:22:34,979 --> 00:22:36,814
So this is it?
Skinwalker Ridge.
499
00:22:36,814 --> 00:22:38,649
Yeah.
That's right.
500
00:22:38,649 --> 00:22:40,109
They call it
the Skinwalker Ridge.
501
00:22:40,109 --> 00:22:41,777
Has any of you ever seen it?
502
00:22:41,777 --> 00:22:44,864
The skinwalker shape‐shifter
thing walking the ridge?
503
00:22:44,864 --> 00:22:46,615
Well, I haven't.
504
00:22:46,615 --> 00:22:48,909
Have y'all talked to anybody
that claims to have seen it?
505
00:22:48,909 --> 00:22:50,452
Jim Morse has seen it.
506
00:22:50,452 --> 00:22:52,663
That's right.
507
00:22:52,663 --> 00:22:57,001
When they talk about
the curse of the skinwalker,
508
00:22:57,001 --> 00:23:00,504
um, back in the mid‐1800s, 1860,
509
00:23:00,504 --> 00:23:04,550
uh, the Utes and the Navajo, um,
they crossed each other.
510
00:23:06,385 --> 00:23:09,179
Unfortunately,
the Utes were utilizing
511
00:23:09,179 --> 00:23:11,098
the Navajos as slaves.
512
00:23:11,098 --> 00:23:13,934
So the Utes and the Navajo
513
00:23:13,934 --> 00:23:16,645
got into a skirmish,
514
00:23:16,645 --> 00:23:19,106
and because of that
515
00:23:19,106 --> 00:23:21,859
the Navajos cursed this land,
516
00:23:21,859 --> 00:23:25,112
which now is the, uh,
path of the skinwalker,
517
00:23:25,112 --> 00:23:28,324
this shape‐shifting spirit.
518
00:23:28,324 --> 00:23:31,535
I didn't want to believe
this phenomenon is real,
519
00:23:31,535 --> 00:23:33,704
but then there was one evening
520
00:23:33,704 --> 00:23:36,081
that we were combing
the ground,
521
00:23:36,081 --> 00:23:37,958
and one of the guards
that I was with
522
00:23:37,958 --> 00:23:40,461
carries, like,
an infrared lamp,
523
00:23:40,461 --> 00:23:44,715
and as he was combing the rocs
524
00:23:44,715 --> 00:23:49,303
he pointed out
two big red eyes.
525
00:23:49,303 --> 00:23:51,889
It looked at me,
and then it left.
526
00:23:51,889 --> 00:23:54,224
Call me what you will,
527
00:23:54,224 --> 00:23:56,101
but I, personally,
am not comfortable out here‐‐
528
00:23:56,101 --> 00:23:58,604
even with
my security background
529
00:23:58,604 --> 00:24:01,148
as a military police officer‐‐
to be out here alone,
530
00:24:01,148 --> 00:24:03,651
uh, in‐in the,
in the dark of the night.
531
00:24:06,612 --> 00:24:08,072
Let's stop right here.
532
00:24:08,072 --> 00:24:09,740
This is probably
the easiest place
533
00:24:09,740 --> 00:24:12,910
to access the top of the ridg.
534
00:24:12,910 --> 00:24:14,954
Climb the rest of the way.
535
00:24:18,916 --> 00:24:22,127
So is this where the glow was
from the video?
536
00:24:22,127 --> 00:24:23,837
That's right,
there's about a 500 to 600
537
00:24:23,837 --> 00:24:25,881
foot long section of this mesa
538
00:24:25,881 --> 00:24:30,552
that appears to pulsate
in some of our night footage.
539
00:24:30,552 --> 00:24:35,099
I'm gonna check my compass
and see if it's acting crazy.
540
00:24:35,099 --> 00:24:37,935
That's... that's west, right?
541
00:24:37,935 --> 00:24:40,521
So it seems like
it's doing fine.
542
00:24:40,521 --> 00:24:42,815
You ought to check your TriField
meter, see what it's doing.
543
00:24:42,815 --> 00:24:45,109
I'm getting a little tone
from it.
544
00:24:45,109 --> 00:24:46,986
‐A little tone?
‐Whoa.
545
00:24:46,986 --> 00:24:48,862
‐Let me see that thing.
‐Sure.
546
00:24:48,862 --> 00:24:51,407
Out on the mesa,
547
00:24:51,407 --> 00:24:53,158
we're using these electric
field measurement devices
548
00:24:53,158 --> 00:24:55,119
called TriField meters.
549
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,496
‐Get out of the way,
make sure it ain't your radio.
‐Okay.
550
00:24:57,496 --> 00:25:00,791
And they measure three fields:
magnetic field,
551
00:25:00,791 --> 00:25:04,378
static electric field,
then it measures radio frequency
552
00:25:04,378 --> 00:25:07,840
and microwaves, which is
electromagnetic dynamic fields.
553
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,300
Whoa, whoa, it's gone up.
554
00:25:10,300 --> 00:25:12,136
Hold on, let me step back.
555
00:25:12,136 --> 00:25:15,848
There are always radio waves
556
00:25:15,848 --> 00:25:17,099
and microwaves
bouncing around everywhere.
557
00:25:17,099 --> 00:25:18,642
We use that for Wi‐Fi,
558
00:25:18,642 --> 00:25:20,436
for your cell phone
communications, everything.
559
00:25:20,436 --> 00:25:22,604
The biggest thing
that piqued my interest
560
00:25:22,604 --> 00:25:24,940
was the amount of energy
in these microwaves
561
00:25:24,940 --> 00:25:27,443
we were measuring was getting
close to dangerous levels.
562
00:25:27,443 --> 00:25:28,610
That's significant.
563
00:25:28,610 --> 00:25:29,820
And the direction
564
00:25:29,820 --> 00:25:30,946
continued to change.
565
00:25:30,946 --> 00:25:33,824
It's coming from that direction.
566
00:25:33,824 --> 00:25:37,202
What is doing that?
567
00:25:37,202 --> 00:25:38,662
Look at that.
568
00:25:39,913 --> 00:25:41,248
Sounds like it might be getting
569
00:25:41,248 --> 00:25:42,791
louder as we get higher.
570
00:25:42,791 --> 00:25:45,210
Let's go up the mountain
and see what happens.
571
00:25:47,671 --> 00:25:50,883
Skinwalker Ranch is in
the middle of nowhere,
572
00:25:50,883 --> 00:25:53,844
and I couldn't see a cell phone
tower as far as I could see.
573
00:25:53,844 --> 00:25:55,971
I barely was getting a signal
on my phone,
574
00:25:55,971 --> 00:26:00,142
and there were
no Wi‐Fi routers.
575
00:26:00,142 --> 00:26:01,935
‐Whoo. Man, that was
a nice walk.
‐Man. That's a climb.
576
00:26:01,935 --> 00:26:05,064
‐
‐Hey, hand me that meter.
577
00:26:05,064 --> 00:26:07,524
What's yours saying, Erik?
578
00:26:07,524 --> 00:26:10,277
‐So we're at four and a half.
‐Which way?
579
00:26:10,277 --> 00:26:11,612
This way.
580
00:26:11,612 --> 00:26:13,447
Yeah, this one's pegging out.
581
00:26:13,447 --> 00:26:15,699
Along‐‐ It's kind of a‐along
the ridge line.
582
00:26:15,699 --> 00:26:19,286
Yeah, I mean,
it's‐it's a real strong signal.
583
00:26:19,286 --> 00:26:21,455
What's it saying?
584
00:26:21,455 --> 00:26:24,041
Dude, it's‐it's in the
milliwatts per meter squared.
585
00:26:25,876 --> 00:26:27,127
And, I mean,
that's a significant
586
00:26:27,127 --> 00:26:28,921
amount of energy right there.
587
00:26:28,921 --> 00:26:31,965
We went to the top of the mesa,
and what we found
588
00:26:31,965 --> 00:26:35,177
was even more
electromagnetic radiation
589
00:26:35,177 --> 00:26:36,428
that shouldn't be there.
590
00:26:36,428 --> 00:26:37,888
That's a real strong signal.
591
00:26:37,888 --> 00:26:39,640
And at dangerous levels
592
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,225
that could be harmful to humans.
593
00:26:41,225 --> 00:26:42,893
Oh!
594
00:26:42,893 --> 00:26:44,186
And it's shifted now.
595
00:26:44,186 --> 00:26:45,813
Now it's coming
from that direction.
596
00:26:45,813 --> 00:26:48,440
‐And it's all radiation.
Yeah, yeah,
it's all RF.
597
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:49,942
Wow.
598
00:26:49,942 --> 00:26:52,277
The level of microwaves there
599
00:26:52,277 --> 00:26:56,073
that we detected
were much stronger than
600
00:26:56,073 --> 00:26:58,117
what you get
from your cell phone
601
00:26:58,117 --> 00:26:59,952
or your Wi‐Fi routers,
602
00:26:59,952 --> 00:27:03,956
and microwaves like that
just don't exist in nature.
603
00:27:03,956 --> 00:27:08,127
So where was this microwave
radiation coming from?
604
00:27:08,127 --> 00:27:09,461
Because I'd never seen that.
605
00:27:09,461 --> 00:27:12,089
I don't know.
We've‐we've been here, what,
606
00:27:12,089 --> 00:27:14,299
an hour and already
found something
607
00:27:14,299 --> 00:27:16,135
that I don't have any idea
what's going on.
608
00:27:16,135 --> 00:27:18,846
I‐I‐I don't understand it.
609
00:27:23,851 --> 00:27:25,811
Well, I have no idea
fo what we just saw, e,
610
00:27:25,811 --> 00:27:29,189
but we did see something.
611
00:27:29,189 --> 00:27:31,608
Not bad for your first few hours
on the ranch, huh?
612
00:27:31,608 --> 00:27:33,652
Yup, wasn't bad.
613
00:27:33,652 --> 00:27:35,404
Wasn't a monster or an alien
614
00:27:35,404 --> 00:27:38,615
or a UFO, but it was
still something weird.
615
00:27:38,615 --> 00:27:39,992
At least it was something.
616
00:27:39,992 --> 00:27:41,660
I certainly didn't expect
617
00:27:41,660 --> 00:27:44,329
to see anything
the first day I got here,
618
00:27:44,329 --> 00:27:45,664
much less the first hour,
619
00:27:45,664 --> 00:27:48,333
but when we walked up
on Skinwalker Ridge,
620
00:27:48,333 --> 00:27:52,004
we saw microwave radiation
at levels
621
00:27:52,004 --> 00:27:53,839
that were close to dangerous.
622
00:27:53,839 --> 00:27:55,674
Hey, guys, welcome back.
623
00:27:55,674 --> 00:27:57,509
And I wasn't expecting that.
624
00:27:57,509 --> 00:27:58,677
I can't explain it,
625
00:27:58,677 --> 00:28:00,846
but we're gonna get
to the bottom of it.
626
00:28:00,846 --> 00:28:05,017
There was some sort of source
of‐of electromagnetic radiation
627
00:28:05,017 --> 00:28:06,560
hitting the bottom
of the mountain,
628
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,687
and as we moved
up the mountain, it seemed
629
00:28:08,687 --> 00:28:11,690
to get a little worse,
and it was random, though,
630
00:28:11,690 --> 00:28:14,276
'cause we'd point the meter in
one direction, and it'd peg out,
631
00:28:14,276 --> 00:28:16,445
then it'd stop. Then we'd point
it in another direction,
632
00:28:16,445 --> 00:28:19,698
and it'd peg out again.
Held my cell phone up to it,
633
00:28:19,698 --> 00:28:21,241
‐it wasn't the cell phone.
Yeah,
electronics weren't‐‐
634
00:28:21,241 --> 00:28:23,702
didn't seem to be the source
of it, which is...
635
00:28:23,702 --> 00:28:26,038
Well, and there was two of them
reacting the same way,
636
00:28:26,038 --> 00:28:28,707
so it wasn't a bad meter or
anything like that, we had both.
637
00:28:28,707 --> 00:28:31,043
And one time,
Erik was holding his pointed
638
00:28:31,043 --> 00:28:32,377
completely opposite direction,
639
00:28:32,377 --> 00:28:34,087
and both of them
were pegging out.
640
00:28:34,087 --> 00:28:36,048
‐It was just‐just strange.
Well, and that
sort of thing
641
00:28:36,048 --> 00:28:38,926
doesn't just happen on the mesa
or in the bowl like that.
642
00:28:38,926 --> 00:28:41,386
We'll come across times where
we'll be carrying that equipment
643
00:28:41,386 --> 00:28:44,890
and all of a sudden it'll
peg out for no reason.
644
00:28:44,890 --> 00:28:46,433
Yup.
645
00:28:46,433 --> 00:28:48,644
That's why we need to be
measuring this stuff
646
00:28:48,644 --> 00:28:50,896
over a long period of time.
647
00:28:50,896 --> 00:28:52,397
‐Right.
Exactly.
648
00:28:52,397 --> 00:28:53,815
‐Right.
‐Exactly.
649
00:28:53,815 --> 00:28:55,275
So I'd like to get about 50
650
00:28:55,275 --> 00:28:57,110
of those TriField meters
651
00:28:57,110 --> 00:28:59,988
and put them in known locations
around the ranch,
652
00:28:59,988 --> 00:29:02,074
like, up on the hill where we
just measured the crazy stuff,
653
00:29:02,074 --> 00:29:03,825
whatever that was,
654
00:29:03,825 --> 00:29:05,827
and‐and have it real‐time,
right there, being recorded.
655
00:29:05,827 --> 00:29:07,287
‐Yeah. Oh, yeah.
‐Right?
656
00:29:07,287 --> 00:29:08,747
'Cause if something like that
657
00:29:08,747 --> 00:29:09,998
is happening like we just saw,
658
00:29:09,998 --> 00:29:11,667
I want us to capture
date and time
659
00:29:11,667 --> 00:29:13,126
'cause that way we might‐‐
can figure out
660
00:29:13,126 --> 00:29:14,503
where it's coming from,
what it's doing,
661
00:29:14,503 --> 00:29:16,338
‐and what's happening to it.
‐Yeah.
662
00:29:16,338 --> 00:29:18,256
Beyond that,
I would like to have
663
00:29:18,256 --> 00:29:20,801
a complete sweep
of the radiation spectrum
664
00:29:20,801 --> 00:29:22,719
over the entire ranch.
665
00:29:22,719 --> 00:29:24,471
And that reminds me,
when they were doing
666
00:29:24,471 --> 00:29:25,931
the nuclear tests
down in Nevada...
667
00:29:25,931 --> 00:29:28,392
‐Are you talking about
the atomic bomb testing?
‐Yes.
668
00:29:28,392 --> 00:29:30,268
When they were doing that
down in Nevada,
669
00:29:30,268 --> 00:29:32,270
uh, the Uinta basin was actually
670
00:29:32,270 --> 00:29:34,856
‐a hot spot for the downwind.
‐Oh, really?
671
00:29:34,856 --> 00:29:36,441
Some of the highest
concentrations measured,
672
00:29:36,441 --> 00:29:38,402
if I understand right, were just
673
00:29:38,402 --> 00:29:40,487
30 miles north of here.
674
00:29:40,487 --> 00:29:42,155
Well, we should look
into that as well.
675
00:29:42,155 --> 00:29:43,782
We‐we know what
the decay products are
676
00:29:43,782 --> 00:29:45,617
from those particular tests
677
00:29:45,617 --> 00:29:47,536
and that's all documented
really well. We should
678
00:29:47,536 --> 00:29:49,955
look in to see how that
may have affected the ranch.
679
00:29:49,955 --> 00:29:51,665
‐Right?
‐That's a great idea.
‐Yup.
680
00:29:53,709 --> 00:29:55,752
Back during
the Manhattan Project,
681
00:29:55,752 --> 00:29:59,631
as, uh, long ago as 1945
and on through the early '50s,
682
00:29:59,631 --> 00:30:02,342
a few hundred miles away,
683
00:30:02,342 --> 00:30:04,761
at the Nevada Test Site,
684
00:30:04,761 --> 00:30:09,474
there were aboveground
nuclear tests,
685
00:30:09,474 --> 00:30:12,352
meaning atomic bombs
were set off.
686
00:30:12,352 --> 00:30:14,146
Nuclear fallout was thrown up
into the sky,
687
00:30:14,146 --> 00:30:16,148
this is radioactive dirt,
688
00:30:16,148 --> 00:30:20,694
dust particles, that then fly
around with the air currents,
689
00:30:20,694 --> 00:30:24,156
and a lot of those winds
brought this radiation
690
00:30:24,156 --> 00:30:27,492
over the Uinta Basin
where Skinwalker Ranch is.
691
00:30:27,492 --> 00:30:29,786
So back in the '50s,
692
00:30:29,786 --> 00:30:32,664
it's highly likely
that radioactive fallout
693
00:30:32,664 --> 00:30:34,207
fell on this ranch,
694
00:30:34,207 --> 00:30:37,711
and some of it
should still be there today.
695
00:30:37,711 --> 00:30:41,048
It's possible that exposure
696
00:30:41,048 --> 00:30:43,508
to radioactive fallout
697
00:30:43,508 --> 00:30:46,178
could cause people
to have strange symptoms,
698
00:30:46,178 --> 00:30:49,848
maybe even hallucinations,
and see things, hear things,
699
00:30:49,848 --> 00:30:52,601
and maybe even do things
that would seem abnormal.
700
00:30:52,601 --> 00:30:55,520
There might be uranium
or something
701
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,230
‐in the dirt here.
‐Right.
702
00:30:57,230 --> 00:30:59,024
So we need to have
a complete radiation sweep,
703
00:30:59,024 --> 00:31:00,859
‐so we'd have a map.
‐Sure.
704
00:31:00,859 --> 00:31:02,778
‐That's right.
We need to look
for radon gas
705
00:31:02,778 --> 00:31:05,113
'cause that's a by‐product
of uranium decay.
706
00:31:05,113 --> 00:31:08,200
We should look for, uh,
gammas and betas and alpha
707
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,368
‐particles even.
‐Mm‐hmm.
708
00:31:10,368 --> 00:31:11,787
We need to look
for radioactive trace
709
00:31:11,787 --> 00:31:13,955
or something in the ground,
so we should see
710
00:31:13,955 --> 00:31:16,833
what happens when we do
something like digging a hole.
711
00:31:16,833 --> 00:31:18,585
And we create
712
00:31:18,585 --> 00:31:22,047
a precisely controlled
experiment where
713
00:31:22,047 --> 00:31:24,007
we're digging to this depth,
714
00:31:24,007 --> 00:31:25,717
and to this size,
and this volume.
715
00:31:25,717 --> 00:31:29,304
And every five feet,
you do a gamma test.
716
00:31:29,304 --> 00:31:30,722
Right.
717
00:31:30,722 --> 00:31:32,724
We can be looking at
the electromagnetic spectrum
718
00:31:32,724 --> 00:31:35,102
while we're doing it in case
there is some kind of strange
719
00:31:35,102 --> 00:31:37,145
microwave phenomena
that's occurring.
720
00:31:37,145 --> 00:31:38,772
Look,
721
00:31:38,772 --> 00:31:41,942
scientists by nature
want to explain everything.
722
00:31:41,942 --> 00:31:44,236
‐Well...
‐See, here's‐‐ The problem is,
723
00:31:44,236 --> 00:31:47,739
those of us that don't think in
a scientific mind all the time,
724
00:31:47,739 --> 00:31:49,574
talk about a feeling
or, you know,
725
00:31:49,574 --> 00:31:51,993
something‐‐ the heebie‐jeebies,
whatever you want to call it...
726
00:31:51,993 --> 00:31:54,037
‐Right.
‐...in us laypeople terms.
727
00:31:54,037 --> 00:31:57,582
I mean, I'm not a scientist, but
I've spent a ton of time here,
728
00:31:57,582 --> 00:31:59,251
I know for a fact,
729
00:31:59,251 --> 00:32:01,962
crap goes down when people
start disturbing the earth.
730
00:32:01,962 --> 00:32:05,423
If we start digging,
that's the trigger.
731
00:32:05,423 --> 00:32:08,468
You know, if you're
gonna be a part of this,
732
00:32:08,468 --> 00:32:13,014
I have to unequivocably say
"No digging."
733
00:32:22,732 --> 00:32:26,486
When you guys talk about every
W time somebody digs out here
734
00:32:26,486 --> 00:32:28,405
on the ranch
without asking about
735
00:32:28,405 --> 00:32:31,158
where to and where not to dig,
it seems to me
736
00:32:31,158 --> 00:32:33,618
like that's‐that's
a big blinking sign saying
737
00:32:33,618 --> 00:32:36,955
"if you want to create the
phenomena to manifest itself,
738
00:32:36,955 --> 00:32:39,082
‐you go and dig somewhere."
I'm not
739
00:32:39,082 --> 00:32:41,042
the type that wants
to go looking for trouble.
740
00:32:41,042 --> 00:32:43,003
There's enough going on
around this place
741
00:32:43,003 --> 00:32:45,589
where I‐I'm not looking
to stir up trouble.
742
00:32:45,589 --> 00:32:48,258
‐Yeah, I mean, I‐I hear you...
‐Great.
743
00:32:48,258 --> 00:32:49,801
The history of the place
744
00:32:49,801 --> 00:32:54,264
has said that when you dig,
bad stuff happens.
745
00:32:54,264 --> 00:32:56,808
I heard about not digging
746
00:32:56,808 --> 00:32:59,144
as soon as I came
onto the property.
747
00:32:59,144 --> 00:33:02,355
It goes back to previous owners
of the property.
748
00:33:02,355 --> 00:33:06,193
They said that when you dig
or disturb the earth,
749
00:33:06,193 --> 00:33:11,072
that is what seemed to trigger
whatever phenomenon is here
750
00:33:11,072 --> 00:33:15,744
and caused harm, and that's not
what I'm looking to do here.
751
00:33:15,744 --> 00:33:17,996
Well, how about you, Erik?
752
00:33:17,996 --> 00:33:20,665
Well, do you want to go out
and start digging holes?
753
00:33:20,665 --> 00:33:23,126
You're the eyes and ears
of the place.
754
00:33:23,126 --> 00:33:24,336
I'm doing my very best
755
00:33:24,336 --> 00:33:25,795
not to be superstitious
about this.
756
00:33:25,795 --> 00:33:28,465
I am intensely curious
757
00:33:28,465 --> 00:33:31,176
about what might be below
this‐this ranch.
758
00:33:31,176 --> 00:33:33,595
But I do not consider
759
00:33:33,595 --> 00:33:37,766
my own curiosity
an entitlement to knowledge.
760
00:33:37,766 --> 00:33:41,811
There are some contexts in which
perhaps even I shouldn't know
761
00:33:41,811 --> 00:33:43,688
about what's going on
on the ranch.
762
00:33:43,688 --> 00:33:45,815
But until I'm advised
to that end,
763
00:33:45,815 --> 00:33:48,944
I'm proceeding as if this
is an observational,
764
00:33:48,944 --> 00:33:51,238
‐experimental undertaking.
Well,
765
00:33:51,238 --> 00:33:52,572
I think that's
what it has to be.
766
00:33:52,572 --> 00:33:54,699
My grandmother used
to always say,
767
00:33:54,699 --> 00:33:56,159
"A hornet's nest
isn't interesting
768
00:33:56,159 --> 00:33:57,577
until you poke it with a stick."
769
00:33:57,577 --> 00:33:59,371
‐Right? And...
Okay, well,
770
00:33:59,371 --> 00:34:01,164
what kind of hornets
were you dealing with?
771
00:34:01,164 --> 00:34:04,834
Well, hornets that sting,
so you use a really long stick
772
00:34:04,834 --> 00:34:06,920
‐and then you drop the stick
and run really fast.
‐Okay, so...
773
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,713
who's gonna do
the digging, then?
774
00:34:08,713 --> 00:34:11,841
Well, that's a good question.
I don't know the answer to that.
775
00:34:11,841 --> 00:34:15,720
Maybe we get volunteers
that don't mind the risk?
776
00:34:15,720 --> 00:34:18,348
It's impossible
to explain the risk.
777
00:34:18,348 --> 00:34:19,724
There's one person
that knows the risk,
778
00:34:19,724 --> 00:34:21,518
and he's sitting
right there. Right?
779
00:34:23,603 --> 00:34:26,731
Having been a person that's done
a lot of digging on this ranch,
780
00:34:26,731 --> 00:34:28,608
the more serious
of digging I do,
781
00:34:28,608 --> 00:34:31,820
the more serious of consequences
that follow.
782
00:34:34,948 --> 00:34:36,908
I didn't believe
in the paranormal
783
00:34:36,908 --> 00:34:38,535
when I came out on this ranch.
784
00:34:38,535 --> 00:34:41,705
And I paid
a pretty hefty price.
785
00:34:41,705 --> 00:34:45,709
When they told me not to dig, I
just thought it was ridiculou.
786
00:34:45,709 --> 00:34:50,297
And so, one day,
I decided to do some digging.
787
00:34:50,297 --> 00:34:54,426
And then, three days after,
I noticed that I had
788
00:34:54,426 --> 00:34:56,261
a goose egg
on the back of my head.
789
00:34:56,261 --> 00:34:59,014
By the time I let my wife
790
00:34:59,014 --> 00:35:00,765
finally take me
to the emergency room,
791
00:35:00,765 --> 00:35:04,603
the goose egg had actually
spread through my entire head.
792
00:35:04,603 --> 00:35:07,897
My scalp separated
from my skull.
793
00:35:07,897 --> 00:35:10,900
The pain is so excruciating,
I've never felt anything
794
00:35:10,900 --> 00:35:13,695
like it before in my life.
795
00:35:13,695 --> 00:35:16,948
The doctors had no idea
what caused it.
796
00:35:16,948 --> 00:35:18,908
They didn't know how to fix i.
797
00:35:18,908 --> 00:35:20,910
Basically they're telling me
what happened to me
798
00:35:20,910 --> 00:35:24,956
was medically impossible, and
it caused me a severe injury
799
00:35:24,956 --> 00:35:28,793
that to this day I'm still
having some repercussions with.
800
00:35:28,793 --> 00:35:32,464
I know that I was warned,
"Hey, don't do digging."
801
00:35:32,464 --> 00:35:35,800
I didn't have this preconceived
idea in my mind that if I dug,
802
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,179
something bad was gonna happen,
because I‐I didn't believe it.
803
00:35:41,264 --> 00:35:44,643
Enough things have happened
to myself, to the equipment,
804
00:35:44,643 --> 00:35:47,979
it is a possibility
that they are correlated.
805
00:35:47,979 --> 00:35:49,981
This is real stuff.
806
00:35:49,981 --> 00:35:51,900
This is nothing
to take for granted.
807
00:35:51,900 --> 00:35:54,152
You're talking about
health and wellbeing.
808
00:35:54,152 --> 00:35:56,905
T‐This is no nonsense.
809
00:35:56,905 --> 00:35:58,823
I get it.
810
00:35:58,823 --> 00:36:00,659
These guys are nervous.
811
00:36:00,659 --> 00:36:02,952
When they've dug,
they've seen things happen.
812
00:36:02,952 --> 00:36:04,913
Tom's injury was real serious.
813
00:36:04,913 --> 00:36:07,916
It scares them a little bit
and they want to be careful.
814
00:36:07,916 --> 00:36:09,334
And I get that.
815
00:36:09,334 --> 00:36:10,960
I don't want anybody
to get hurt.
816
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,714
But I'm not sure
what caused the injury.
817
00:36:14,714 --> 00:36:16,383
And I think we're only
gonna find that out
818
00:36:16,383 --> 00:36:19,469
by doing a lot more
experimentation.
819
00:36:19,469 --> 00:36:23,014
We are interacting with this
somehow or other,
820
00:36:23,014 --> 00:36:26,101
and so we need to calibrate what
we're doing to the experiment.
821
00:36:26,101 --> 00:36:27,811
Look, if we're gonna dig,
822
00:36:27,811 --> 00:36:29,646
if we're gonna test this,
let's just do it in a way
823
00:36:29,646 --> 00:36:31,648
that we're keeping
the possibility
824
00:36:31,648 --> 00:36:34,567
that it may be dangerous and
let's put some safety nets up,
825
00:36:34,567 --> 00:36:35,777
just in case.
826
00:36:37,445 --> 00:36:40,031
Jim, what do, what do you
think about it?
827
00:36:40,031 --> 00:36:42,659
I think we should dig
because I want to learn more
828
00:36:42,659 --> 00:36:44,202
about what it means to dig.
829
00:36:44,202 --> 00:36:47,789
I don't see an anomaly happening
as a warning,
830
00:36:47,789 --> 00:36:49,416
I see it as an invitation.
831
00:36:49,416 --> 00:36:51,042
Look,
832
00:36:51,042 --> 00:36:53,044
it's not my piece of property.
833
00:36:53,044 --> 00:36:55,880
You've been brought here
obviously for a purpose.
834
00:36:55,880 --> 00:37:00,510
If the owner of the property
says, "I want this to happen,"
835
00:37:00,510 --> 00:37:02,554
then I'm on board.
836
00:37:02,554 --> 00:37:06,224
We ought to see if we can
get Brandon on the line
837
00:37:06,224 --> 00:37:07,559
and talk to him
about some of the stuff
838
00:37:07,559 --> 00:37:09,227
that we've talked about.
839
00:37:09,227 --> 00:37:11,730
Erik, do you think
we can get him on video chat
840
00:37:11,730 --> 00:37:13,606
‐or something like that, see if
we can give him an update?
‐Sure.
841
00:37:13,606 --> 00:37:15,400
‐Sure, I'll bring him up now.
‐All right.
842
00:37:28,538 --> 00:37:31,082
Hey, Brandon.
‐Greetings, team. How are you?
843
00:37:31,082 --> 00:37:32,417
‐Doing well.
‐Doing great, how are you?
844
00:37:32,417 --> 00:37:34,878
I am glad
that you patched me in
845
00:37:34,878 --> 00:37:38,214
and I'm wondering how the
investigation is progressing.
846
00:37:38,214 --> 00:37:40,759
Well, it's been an eventful day.
847
00:37:40,759 --> 00:37:43,261
As the ranch usually does
when we bring new people on,
848
00:37:43,261 --> 00:37:45,972
it seems to, uh,
liven up a little bit.
849
00:37:45,972 --> 00:37:50,059
And we, uh, caught some
pretty interesting things today.
850
00:37:50,059 --> 00:37:51,269
Yeah, Brandon, when we were up
851
00:37:51,269 --> 00:37:52,937
on the mesa, the TriField meters
852
00:37:52,937 --> 00:37:58,234
were measuring really strong
transient microwave fields
853
00:37:58,234 --> 00:38:00,612
and‐and the power that,
uh, we were picking up
854
00:38:00,612 --> 00:38:02,822
was on the verge
of being dangerous levels.
855
00:38:02,822 --> 00:38:07,368
So, I'd like to get some
more precise measurements made.
856
00:38:07,368 --> 00:38:11,289
Yeah, that's‐that's disturbing,
and that is also consistent
857
00:38:11,289 --> 00:38:14,459
with what we've experienced
in the past.
858
00:38:14,459 --> 00:38:17,462
What are the priority items
going forward
859
00:38:17,462 --> 00:38:19,464
as we launch into this phase
of the investigation?
860
00:38:19,464 --> 00:38:22,884
So, one of the first
things the guys want to do
861
00:38:22,884 --> 00:38:24,928
is get some surveys
and some testing done.
862
00:38:24,928 --> 00:38:27,305
They want to do some RF testing.
863
00:38:27,305 --> 00:38:30,308
They want to do
radiological testing,
864
00:38:30,308 --> 00:38:33,937
some thermography and...
865
00:38:33,937 --> 00:38:35,855
they want to dig.
866
00:38:35,855 --> 00:38:38,107
Hmm.
867
00:38:39,818 --> 00:38:41,319
You know, I...
868
00:38:41,319 --> 00:38:44,948
I'm not sure
I'm comfortable with that.
869
00:38:44,948 --> 00:38:47,951
Uh, w‐which part are you not
comfortable with, uh, Brandon?
870
00:38:47,951 --> 00:38:52,288
The digging. I think that
once we commence digging,
871
00:38:52,288 --> 00:38:54,457
it opens up
a whole Pandora's box,
872
00:38:54,457 --> 00:38:56,835
and there are certain risks
873
00:38:56,835 --> 00:39:01,339
that I think
you just aren't privy to
874
00:39:01,339 --> 00:39:03,842
and haven't been
properly briefed on.
875
00:39:03,842 --> 00:39:06,511
When Brandon said
876
00:39:06,511 --> 00:39:08,137
there was no digging
on the ranch, I was stunned.
877
00:39:08,137 --> 00:39:09,681
How are we gonna get
to the bottom of things
878
00:39:09,681 --> 00:39:11,140
happening on this place,
879
00:39:11,140 --> 00:39:13,560
if we can't investigate
in every way we can?
880
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,186
Well, we need
881
00:39:15,186 --> 00:39:17,564
to be briefed
on that data, then,
882
00:39:17,564 --> 00:39:19,232
so we can understand
the phenomena
883
00:39:19,232 --> 00:39:23,862
that we're being exposed to
or trying to uncover.
884
00:39:23,862 --> 00:39:25,864
I understand. Erik,
885
00:39:25,864 --> 00:39:30,535
do you happen to have
the, uh, the case?
886
00:39:30,535 --> 00:39:32,662
I do. I've been saving it
887
00:39:32,662 --> 00:39:34,998
until the right point in
the discussion to bring it up.
888
00:39:34,998 --> 00:39:40,169
My first reaction
when Brandon tells me
889
00:39:40,169 --> 00:39:41,754
that they haven't
showed us everything,
890
00:39:41,754 --> 00:39:43,882
that we haven't seen
all the information they have...
891
00:39:43,882 --> 00:39:46,050
Well, how can I help them
892
00:39:46,050 --> 00:39:48,219
if they don't give me
all the information?
893
00:39:48,219 --> 00:39:51,723
And I was a little bit
concerned about that.
894
00:39:51,723 --> 00:39:53,808
This is not
to be taken lightly,
895
00:39:53,808 --> 00:39:56,728
and that's why we've kept
the material
896
00:39:56,728 --> 00:39:59,147
under lock and key.
897
00:39:59,147 --> 00:40:01,399
I think you'll understand
soon why.
898
00:40:01,399 --> 00:40:02,984
This is a matter of, really,
899
00:40:02,984 --> 00:40:05,695
the highest level
of seriousness and sensitivity.
900
00:40:05,695 --> 00:40:07,739
‐Hmm.
These are hornets
that you've never
901
00:40:07,739 --> 00:40:09,365
had to deal with before.
902
00:40:09,365 --> 00:40:11,242
Hornets. All right.
903
00:40:11,242 --> 00:40:13,202
Well, I want to see them.
904
00:40:13,202 --> 00:40:15,538
Erik, with that,
905
00:40:15,538 --> 00:40:17,749
proceed to show them
what is in the case.
906
00:40:17,749 --> 00:40:19,417
Regrettably,
I have to go to a meeting,
907
00:40:19,417 --> 00:40:21,920
so I'll look
for your update later.
908
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,756
‐Thanks, gentlemen.
Thanks, Brandon.
909
00:40:24,756 --> 00:40:27,467
I came into this saying,
look, guys,
910
00:40:27,467 --> 00:40:29,052
we're gonna follow
the scientific method.
911
00:40:29,052 --> 00:40:31,471
You can't keep data
912
00:40:31,471 --> 00:40:35,850
away from the experiment and
not show the rest of the team,
913
00:40:35,850 --> 00:40:38,478
in order for it
to be a good experiment.
914
00:40:38,478 --> 00:40:41,147
I've got a U. S.
government clearance,
915
00:40:41,147 --> 00:40:42,941
and I don't see
why Brandon and the team
916
00:40:42,941 --> 00:40:44,776
feel like they have
to keep anything from me.
917
00:40:44,776 --> 00:40:46,235
Now, I'm beginning
to wonder what the heck
918
00:40:46,235 --> 00:40:48,404
they've got in store for me.
919
00:40:50,114 --> 00:40:51,783
So what I am going to show you
920
00:40:51,783 --> 00:40:53,451
may offer an explanation
for some
921
00:40:53,451 --> 00:40:55,495
of what we've been
seeing on the property.
922
00:40:55,495 --> 00:40:58,164
You'll understand
as soon as I open this up.
923
00:41:05,213 --> 00:41:06,422
Wow.
924
00:41:10,343 --> 00:41:13,763
The legend is that things
happen on this ranch.
925
00:41:13,763 --> 00:41:15,348
Okay, that's spiking.
926
00:41:15,348 --> 00:41:17,392
‐That could be dangerous.
‐It's coming from up there.
927
00:41:17,392 --> 00:41:19,102
The signal was coming
from the sky.
928
00:41:19,102 --> 00:41:21,145
‐What is that?
Do you guys see that?
929
00:41:21,145 --> 00:41:22,480
It flew from behind
the mesa. Foom.
930
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:23,648
‐There it is.
‐There it is again.
931
00:41:23,648 --> 00:41:25,858
Whoa. That's a definite beam.
932
00:41:25,858 --> 00:41:30,321
The moment that object appeared,
the cow reacted.
933
00:41:30,321 --> 00:41:32,448
We are dealing
with some kind of intelligence
934
00:41:32,448 --> 00:41:34,826
that has the ability
to paralyze.
935
00:41:34,826 --> 00:41:38,579
It felt like someone was
knocking from under the floor.
936
00:41:38,579 --> 00:41:40,957
‐What is that?
Is that
a fragmented bone?
937
00:41:40,957 --> 00:41:42,375
It could be human remains.
938
00:41:42,375 --> 00:41:45,086
We have something active
beneath this property.
939
00:41:45,086 --> 00:41:47,880
It stinks in here.
I don't want to stay
in here very long.
940
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:49,799
We were just exposed
to ionizing radiation.
941
00:41:49,799 --> 00:41:51,259
‐My head is killing me.
This is serious.
942
00:41:51,259 --> 00:41:53,011
I think it's time
to go to the hospital.
943
00:41:53,011 --> 00:41:55,013
I wanted to get out here
as soon as I could.
944
00:41:55,013 --> 00:41:56,848
Who or what
could we be dealing with?
945
00:41:56,848 --> 00:41:59,267
There is something of
significant size down there.
946
00:41:59,267 --> 00:42:00,810
Is it saucer‐shaped?
‐Yes.
947
00:42:00,810 --> 00:42:02,353
Let's dig it up.
948
00:42:02,353 --> 00:42:03,688
Look at that.
What is that?
949
00:42:03,688 --> 00:42:05,023
Why is that rocking like that?
950
00:42:05,023 --> 00:42:06,524
Oh!
951
00:42:06,524 --> 00:42:08,568
What we saw tonight was real.
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