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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,624 --> 00:00:03,970 (light airy music) 2 00:00:03,970 --> 00:00:06,050 As a reporter, I've traveled the Middle East 3 00:00:06,050 --> 00:00:07,350 for many years. 4 00:00:07,350 --> 00:00:09,730 It's an area that has always fascinated me. 5 00:00:09,730 --> 00:00:12,210 But in my work, I've mainly covered its war zones, 6 00:00:12,210 --> 00:00:14,420 its crises, and its tragedies. 7 00:00:14,420 --> 00:00:16,750 This journey, which takes me down the Silk Road 8 00:00:16,750 --> 00:00:20,240 in the footsteps of Marco Polo, gives me the opportunity 9 00:00:20,240 --> 00:00:22,400 of exploring the great historical and cultural 10 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:24,330 significance of this part of the world, 11 00:00:24,330 --> 00:00:27,320 its ancient melting pot of peoples and civilizations 12 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,537 that have contributed so much to our own. 13 00:00:30,678 --> 00:00:33,178 (light music) 14 00:00:51,300 --> 00:00:54,220 Asia Minor, or Little Asia as it was called by the Romans, 15 00:00:54,220 --> 00:00:57,267 was, for the Turks, Anatolia, which literally means 16 00:00:57,267 --> 00:00:58,937 "The place of the rising sun." 17 00:00:59,950 --> 00:01:02,583 In other words, the East, which is where Marco Polo 18 00:01:02,583 --> 00:01:05,133 and the other traders on the Silk Road were headed. 19 00:01:06,298 --> 00:01:09,048 (birds tweeting) 20 00:01:11,830 --> 00:01:14,070 Several of the biggest caravanserais to be found 21 00:01:14,070 --> 00:01:16,950 along our routes, approximately 12000 kilometers, 22 00:01:16,950 --> 00:01:18,300 are in Anatolia. 23 00:01:18,300 --> 00:01:21,670 For example, the 13th-century Sultan Han caravanseray, 24 00:01:21,670 --> 00:01:24,860 built by the soldier Turks in the province of Cappadocia, 25 00:01:24,860 --> 00:01:26,912 right in the middle of the country. 26 00:01:26,912 --> 00:01:29,170 (light string music) 27 00:01:29,170 --> 00:01:31,430 Since caravans were a valuable source of income, 28 00:01:31,430 --> 00:01:32,980 the soldier Turks did everything 29 00:01:32,980 --> 00:01:35,320 they could to incite traveling merchants to take 30 00:01:35,320 --> 00:01:38,390 their portion of the Silk Road across Anatolia. 31 00:01:38,390 --> 00:01:40,850 One way they did this was offer them three days in a row 32 00:01:40,850 --> 00:01:43,410 of free lodging in caravanserais like this one. 33 00:01:43,410 --> 00:01:45,890 They even went as far as to set up an insurance system. 34 00:01:45,890 --> 00:01:48,460 If a merchant had his goods stolen along a certain segment 35 00:01:48,460 --> 00:01:50,800 or if one of his animals died, he was reimbursed 36 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:52,400 for the goods or for the animal. 37 00:01:54,025 --> 00:01:57,250 (light string music) 38 00:01:57,250 --> 00:01:58,975 Originally from Central Asia, the Turkish 39 00:01:58,975 --> 00:02:02,300 soldier-sultans ruled over a large part of Persia 40 00:02:02,300 --> 00:02:05,090 and then Asia Minor up until the 12th century. 41 00:02:05,090 --> 00:02:07,850 They were former nomads who became masters of an empire, 42 00:02:07,850 --> 00:02:11,360 and they learned the importance of trade from the Iranians. 43 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,200 Measuring a total of 4500 square meters, 44 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,680 the Sultan Hani caravanseray was built by al-Dimashqi, 45 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:19,500 a Syrian architect. 46 00:02:19,500 --> 00:02:22,350 (vocal music) 47 00:02:22,350 --> 00:02:25,140 The use of growing vaults and red vaults shows the influence 48 00:02:25,140 --> 00:02:26,740 of Western architecture in this area 49 00:02:26,740 --> 00:02:28,640 throughout the period of the Crusades. 50 00:02:32,770 --> 00:02:35,480 Although vulnerable to invasion, Cappadocia was also 51 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,830 a region where roots and empires converged, 52 00:02:37,830 --> 00:02:40,010 a major crossroads for the civilizations 53 00:02:40,010 --> 00:02:41,060 of the ancient world. 54 00:02:41,991 --> 00:02:44,610 (shoes crunching in snow) 55 00:02:44,610 --> 00:02:46,100 Playing right in the middle of Anatolia 56 00:02:46,100 --> 00:02:48,390 north of the Torres Mountains, the region 57 00:02:48,390 --> 00:02:51,340 of Cappadocia had a strategic location on the caravan route 58 00:02:51,340 --> 00:02:53,670 that linked the Mediterranean to the East. 59 00:02:53,670 --> 00:02:55,930 This region was first controlled by the Hittites, 60 00:02:55,930 --> 00:02:58,190 then by the Persian Empire, the Roman Empire, 61 00:02:58,190 --> 00:03:00,280 Byzantine Empire, before it was sacked by 62 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,273 the Mongol warriors and then annexed by the Ottoman Turks. 63 00:03:04,525 --> 00:03:07,275 (horse trotting) 64 00:03:09,980 --> 00:03:11,590 Considered one of the most beautiful regions 65 00:03:11,590 --> 00:03:13,900 in Turkey, Cappadocia continues to attract 66 00:03:13,900 --> 00:03:16,750 hordes of tourists who come in particular to visit 67 00:03:16,750 --> 00:03:19,550 its stunning rock formations called Fairy Chimneys, 68 00:03:19,550 --> 00:03:21,923 which are situated around the village of Goreme. 69 00:03:22,972 --> 00:03:25,160 Taklum, a small Arabian thoroughbred mare, 70 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,569 provides a great way to explore the maze of Chimneys, 71 00:03:27,569 --> 00:03:29,820 which were created from very friable 72 00:03:29,820 --> 00:03:32,430 sedimentary rock deposits as a result of erosion 73 00:03:32,430 --> 00:03:34,093 by wind, rain and frost. 74 00:03:39,110 --> 00:03:41,810 From time immemorial, the inhabitants of the region 75 00:03:41,810 --> 00:03:43,640 have used the area's unique geology 76 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:45,470 to create cave dwellings. 77 00:03:45,470 --> 00:03:48,030 These naturally carved or manmade excavations 78 00:03:48,030 --> 00:03:50,630 also house some of the oldest churches in the world. 79 00:03:51,540 --> 00:03:53,210 After being forgotten for centuries, 80 00:03:53,210 --> 00:03:56,540 or as turned into stables, hundreds of rock-cut churches 81 00:03:56,540 --> 00:03:59,904 were rediscovered in the 1950s by a French Jesuit priest 82 00:03:59,904 --> 00:04:02,780 named Guillaume de Jerphanion. 83 00:04:02,780 --> 00:04:05,290 The priest excesses have created an association 84 00:04:05,290 --> 00:04:07,750 called The Friends of Cappadocia, which is overseen 85 00:04:07,750 --> 00:04:08,933 by Ahmet Diler. 86 00:04:11,676 --> 00:04:13,010 How are these strange rock 87 00:04:13,010 --> 00:04:15,320 formations connected to the many churches found 88 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:16,520 in the Valley of Goreme? 89 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,490 [Diler, Translated] We might say that Cappadocia 90 00:04:20,490 --> 00:04:23,390 combines the work of nature and the work of human beings. 91 00:04:23,390 --> 00:04:27,470 It is even said that the Hittites dug and used parts 92 00:04:27,470 --> 00:04:29,490 of the underground cities. 93 00:04:29,490 --> 00:04:31,980 So it goes very, very far back. 94 00:04:31,980 --> 00:04:33,540 Some cave dwellings in the area 95 00:04:33,540 --> 00:04:35,563 were used by the Zoroastrians. 96 00:04:36,650 --> 00:04:39,370 The fire worshipers who came from Iran. 97 00:04:39,370 --> 00:04:41,490 The fire worshipers, that's right. 98 00:04:41,490 --> 00:04:43,430 The Persians came here and they even 99 00:04:43,430 --> 00:04:46,470 gave the region its name, Cappadocia. 100 00:04:46,470 --> 00:04:48,474 In ancient Persian, Cappadocia means 101 00:04:48,474 --> 00:04:50,617 "The land of beautiful horses." 102 00:04:52,475 --> 00:04:55,593 The Zoroastrians, the Medes, the Hittites, and then? 103 00:04:56,620 --> 00:04:57,570 Then the churches. 104 00:04:57,570 --> 00:05:00,930 The first Christians settled here and started digging. 105 00:05:00,930 --> 00:05:03,343 At first, the chapels were quite small. 106 00:05:06,460 --> 00:05:08,770 The ceilings in the beginning were flat, 107 00:05:08,770 --> 00:05:12,080 with crosses carved into them because there was a real cult 108 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:13,910 associated with the cross. 109 00:05:13,910 --> 00:05:16,290 Later on, the Christians added the paintings, 110 00:05:16,290 --> 00:05:19,070 barrel-vaulted structures, and frescoes that we find 111 00:05:19,070 --> 00:05:20,993 in many of the churches in Cappadocia. 112 00:05:24,188 --> 00:05:26,938 (birds tweeting) 113 00:05:29,227 --> 00:05:31,727 (light music) 114 00:05:43,580 --> 00:05:44,910 This is such a strange place, 115 00:05:44,910 --> 00:05:47,800 such a strange city to find monasteries and houses. 116 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,450 Was there also a defensive or secretive aspect to it? 117 00:05:52,830 --> 00:05:54,300 The hermits were the first Christians 118 00:05:54,300 --> 00:05:55,730 to come here. 119 00:05:55,730 --> 00:05:58,450 They lived in seclusion in the Cappadocian cones, 120 00:05:58,450 --> 00:06:00,190 called Fairy Chimneys. 121 00:06:00,190 --> 00:06:02,060 Below, they had a little chapel. 122 00:06:02,060 --> 00:06:04,111 Their sleeping quarters were above, 123 00:06:04,111 --> 00:06:05,813 and around it, a vineyard. 124 00:06:06,970 --> 00:06:09,848 Later, the Cappadocian fathers would try to group 125 00:06:09,848 --> 00:06:13,640 the secluded hermits together in order to found 126 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:15,453 a cenobitic community. 127 00:06:16,590 --> 00:06:18,757 Cenobitic, derived from the ancient Greek words 128 00:06:18,757 --> 00:06:22,230 "Koines" and "Bios," means "life in common." 129 00:06:22,230 --> 00:06:24,140 The cenobitic rules are basically the rules 130 00:06:24,140 --> 00:06:25,673 that regulate monastery life. 131 00:06:26,940 --> 00:06:29,410 This type of monastic organization originated 132 00:06:29,410 --> 00:06:32,783 in the East and spread to Europe in the Middle Ages. 133 00:06:32,783 --> 00:06:35,283 (light music) 134 00:06:36,417 --> 00:06:37,250 Why did the hermits 135 00:06:37,250 --> 00:06:38,100 and then the monks choose 136 00:06:38,100 --> 00:06:41,010 such bizarre locations to build their cells or monasteries, 137 00:06:41,010 --> 00:06:43,510 for example, with the doors situated 10 meters 138 00:06:43,510 --> 00:06:44,360 above the ground? 139 00:06:46,009 --> 00:06:48,820 The purpose was, in fact, to conceal themselves 140 00:06:48,820 --> 00:06:51,640 because the area was often invaded, 141 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,150 often raided by the Arabs. 142 00:06:54,150 --> 00:06:56,290 So they made narrow tunnels leading to 143 00:06:56,290 --> 00:06:58,820 the sleeping quarters or the chapel, 144 00:06:58,820 --> 00:07:01,350 which could then be blocked off with a millstone 145 00:07:01,350 --> 00:07:02,293 or another object. 146 00:07:03,650 --> 00:07:06,830 Since the valleys in Cappadocia are quite steep, 147 00:07:06,830 --> 00:07:10,140 they could seclude themselves, as well as congregate 148 00:07:10,140 --> 00:07:12,713 in the monasteries or the churches in Goreme. 149 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,160 The area containing the most beautiful rock 150 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,070 churches of Goreme has been turned into a national park, 151 00:07:21,070 --> 00:07:24,130 and is listed as a UNESCO World Heritage Site, 152 00:07:24,130 --> 00:07:26,850 an entire monastery and a nun's convent concealed 153 00:07:26,850 --> 00:07:27,743 among the cliffs. 154 00:07:28,650 --> 00:07:30,810 In addition to the churches and monk cells, 155 00:07:30,810 --> 00:07:32,770 other highlights include this refractory, 156 00:07:32,770 --> 00:07:35,453 with its table and benches sculpted into the rock. 157 00:07:36,422 --> 00:07:38,922 (light music) 158 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:43,630 Built into the limestone and then painted, 159 00:07:43,630 --> 00:07:46,600 this magnificent fresco, dating from the 11th century, 160 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,040 depicts various scenes from the Bible. 161 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,640 In the apse, we see the figure of the Archangel Michael 162 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,210 holding the orb of the Earth in the form of a ball 163 00:07:54,210 --> 00:07:55,903 decorated with a little cross. 164 00:07:56,950 --> 00:07:59,180 This is a symbol of power, similar to the orbs 165 00:07:59,180 --> 00:08:01,290 that Charlemagne or the Byzantine emperors 166 00:08:01,290 --> 00:08:02,693 often hold in their hands. 167 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:07,900 Can we also find traces 168 00:08:07,900 --> 00:08:10,580 of how Cappadocian culture and customs might have traveled 169 00:08:10,580 --> 00:08:11,923 up and down the Silk Road? 170 00:08:13,878 --> 00:08:17,260 There are geometric patterns in the architecture 171 00:08:17,260 --> 00:08:20,813 of the churches that are also found on the fronts of houses. 172 00:08:22,620 --> 00:08:25,130 We can see the same pattern in the kilims, carpets 173 00:08:25,130 --> 00:08:29,536 that are flat-woven, a weaving method that has been used 174 00:08:29,536 --> 00:08:31,203 since time immemorial. 175 00:08:33,312 --> 00:08:36,440 (light string music) 176 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,430 If Ahmet brings up kilims, it's not by chance. 177 00:08:39,430 --> 00:08:41,450 When he's not looking after old churches, 178 00:08:41,450 --> 00:08:44,660 Ahmet is, in fact, selling Cappadocian carpets. 179 00:08:44,660 --> 00:08:46,800 He comes from a family of weavers, and has become 180 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:48,610 a specialist in the history of the designs 181 00:08:48,610 --> 00:08:49,660 found in the carpets. 182 00:08:51,790 --> 00:08:54,350 Ahmet, can we say that carpets, and in particular, 183 00:08:54,350 --> 00:08:56,810 the kilim, originated here in Anatolia? 184 00:08:56,810 --> 00:08:59,880 That's right, between Konya and Cappadocia, 185 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:01,873 in the Neolithic site of Catalhoyuk. 186 00:09:02,930 --> 00:09:04,160 So about how long ago? 187 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,630 6500 B.C. 188 00:09:06,630 --> 00:09:08,900 So could the kilim possibly be the oldest kind 189 00:09:08,900 --> 00:09:09,843 of carpet we know? 190 00:09:11,550 --> 00:09:14,021 It's the oldest form of weaving. 191 00:09:14,021 --> 00:09:16,270 And in terms of the motifs on the kilims, 192 00:09:16,270 --> 00:09:19,620 do they spread to other places along the Silk Road? 193 00:09:19,620 --> 00:09:22,340 For example, are there traditional designs from this area 194 00:09:22,340 --> 00:09:25,040 that, for some unknown reason, pop up hundreds or thousands 195 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:26,490 of kilometers away from here? 196 00:09:27,540 --> 00:09:31,103 Human instinct and weaving methods create certain forms. 197 00:09:32,030 --> 00:09:34,463 Forms that reappear, as in Plato? 198 00:09:35,570 --> 00:09:38,110 Certain forms that reappear that may be found 199 00:09:38,110 --> 00:09:41,660 in Africa, in South America, or in Anatolia. 200 00:09:41,660 --> 00:09:44,160 People spontaneously come up with the same forms? 201 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,060 Sometimes, yes, the same forms. 202 00:09:46,060 --> 00:09:47,540 Now, that's interesting. 203 00:09:47,540 --> 00:09:49,890 And they also have a meaning. 204 00:09:49,890 --> 00:09:53,140 If we're talking about kilims, for instance, 205 00:09:53,140 --> 00:09:56,623 there are three recurring themes that we see all the time. 206 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:04,230 First of all, female fertility, which is associated 207 00:10:04,230 --> 00:10:06,190 with the motif called "Hands on the Hips." 208 00:10:06,190 --> 00:10:08,600 In Turkish we say, "Elibelinde." 209 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,860 It's a geometrical form that suggests a head 210 00:10:10,860 --> 00:10:12,413 and a body with the hands bent. 211 00:10:13,709 --> 00:10:16,292 (upbeat music) 212 00:10:18,060 --> 00:10:20,170 A second motif that we very often find 213 00:10:20,170 --> 00:10:22,960 is the Ear of Wheat, which is related to the theme 214 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:24,513 of the fertility of nature. 215 00:10:30,390 --> 00:10:33,403 Another subject of concern for people was protection. 216 00:10:34,290 --> 00:10:39,290 Protecting against diseases, bad weather, earthquakes, 217 00:10:39,830 --> 00:10:43,810 any sort of disaster that can still occur even today. 218 00:10:43,810 --> 00:10:46,280 A typical example of this is the eye motif, 219 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,400 which guards against the Evil Eye, 220 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,560 and it's found everywhere in Anatolia, 221 00:10:50,560 --> 00:10:53,033 so we also put protective signs on kilims. 222 00:10:57,530 --> 00:10:59,690 These amulets against the Evil Eye, 223 00:10:59,690 --> 00:11:03,210 called Nazar Boncugu, date back to the early Turkic people, 224 00:11:03,210 --> 00:11:05,410 who were originally nomads who roamed the Step 225 00:11:05,410 --> 00:11:07,913 and worshiped Tengri, the God of the Blue Sky. 226 00:11:10,404 --> 00:11:12,990 (dramatic music) 227 00:11:12,990 --> 00:11:15,640 The heirs to those nomadic ancestors are to be found 228 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:17,993 in the mystical Alevi-Bektashi Order. 229 00:11:19,010 --> 00:11:22,090 A very powerful but generally rather secret community, 230 00:11:22,090 --> 00:11:24,470 the Alevi are thought to represent nearly 20 percent 231 00:11:24,470 --> 00:11:27,653 of the Turkish population, or at least 15 million people. 232 00:11:30,530 --> 00:11:32,810 It was the religious order of the jannissaries, 233 00:11:32,810 --> 00:11:35,760 the elite fighting core of the Ottoman Empire. 234 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:37,530 The Alevi are followers of Ali, 235 00:11:37,530 --> 00:11:39,130 the prophet Muhammad's son-in-law. 236 00:11:39,130 --> 00:11:41,620 And that's close to the Shia branch of Islam. 237 00:11:41,620 --> 00:11:44,300 But they've inherited many Shamanic practices and beliefs 238 00:11:44,300 --> 00:11:46,363 from the Turkic nomads of the Steps. 239 00:11:47,930 --> 00:11:50,410 They don't pray in mosques, but rather in cemevi, 240 00:11:50,410 --> 00:11:52,590 or houses of assembly, consider the 241 00:11:52,590 --> 00:11:54,371 Christian Bible, the Jewish Torah 242 00:11:54,371 --> 00:11:56,880 and the book of Psalms as sacred texts 243 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:58,810 just like the Quran. 244 00:11:58,810 --> 00:12:01,490 The spritual leader of the Alevi is a Sayyid, 245 00:12:01,490 --> 00:12:03,120 a descendant of the prophet, 246 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,680 with certain aspects of Buddhism also incorporated 247 00:12:05,680 --> 00:12:07,200 into their beliefs. 248 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,360 Their prayer in the form of dance, the Sema, 249 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,955 symbolizes the movements of the universe. 250 00:12:11,955 --> 00:12:14,538 (string music) 251 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,120 The Sema is a religious dance 252 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,008 to music in which the difference between the 253 00:12:28,008 --> 00:12:31,096 earth and the sky, matter and spirituality, 254 00:12:31,096 --> 00:12:33,460 men and women disappears. 255 00:12:33,460 --> 00:12:36,040 It's a form of religious practice. 256 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,370 You say the ceremony symbolizes equality 257 00:12:38,370 --> 00:12:41,570 between the sky and the earth, between men and women. 258 00:12:41,570 --> 00:12:44,220 Is that really true among the Alevi and the Bektashi? 259 00:12:45,690 --> 00:12:48,740 The Alevi and Bektashi believe there is no difference 260 00:12:48,740 --> 00:12:50,460 between men and women. 261 00:12:50,460 --> 00:12:53,010 Everyone has the same status. 262 00:12:53,010 --> 00:12:55,530 Of course, within the family structure, 263 00:12:55,530 --> 00:12:58,230 women and men have different tasks. 264 00:12:58,230 --> 00:12:59,833 They are divided up differently. 265 00:13:00,740 --> 00:13:03,980 Our life is collective, but women are not oppressed 266 00:13:03,980 --> 00:13:05,123 and not excluded. 267 00:13:09,140 --> 00:13:10,610 Your movement is both a mystical 268 00:13:10,610 --> 00:13:12,640 and a socially active movement that leans 269 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:14,880 very much to the left in Turkish politics. 270 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:16,923 How do you reconcile these two extremes? 271 00:13:19,390 --> 00:13:21,800 Perhaps for the first time in the world, 272 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,363 at the time of Haji Bektash Veli, 273 00:13:25,860 --> 00:13:28,840 we can say that people experience collective life, 274 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,650 community life, social life, respectively 275 00:13:31,650 --> 00:13:32,563 in the right way. 276 00:13:35,490 --> 00:13:37,220 Everyone took what they needed 277 00:13:37,220 --> 00:13:38,973 and brought back any surplus. 278 00:13:39,950 --> 00:13:43,510 So it was all distributed to the Alevi-Bektashi 279 00:13:43,510 --> 00:13:45,763 and to people in need around the world. 280 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:50,810 The belief is that salvation 281 00:13:50,810 --> 00:13:52,560 cannot be obtained alone. 282 00:13:52,560 --> 00:13:55,420 Salvation can only be obtained together 283 00:13:55,420 --> 00:13:57,830 and it's not only for human beings. 284 00:13:57,830 --> 00:14:00,560 The Alevi-Bektashi believe that respect 285 00:14:00,560 --> 00:14:02,350 should be given not only to humans 286 00:14:02,350 --> 00:14:05,633 but also to trees, to all living beings. 287 00:14:07,890 --> 00:14:10,323 We do not kill any living thing deliberately. 288 00:14:11,620 --> 00:14:14,020 According to our beliefs, we never prune 289 00:14:14,020 --> 00:14:16,450 any tree without permission. 290 00:14:16,450 --> 00:14:19,050 If we cut down a tree, it is necessary 291 00:14:19,050 --> 00:14:21,633 for us to plant another one to take its place. 292 00:14:23,011 --> 00:14:26,594 (string music and singing) 293 00:14:33,982 --> 00:14:35,550 What's the meaning of the dances you do 294 00:14:35,550 --> 00:14:36,463 during the Sema? 295 00:14:38,850 --> 00:14:41,420 We see the Creator in everything, 296 00:14:41,420 --> 00:14:43,810 sometimes in the cranes, when we are in a certain 297 00:14:43,810 --> 00:14:47,363 state of mind and the dayi, the songs talk about it. 298 00:14:49,460 --> 00:14:51,910 There is the flapping of the wings of the cranes. 299 00:14:52,830 --> 00:14:55,110 We take three steps in the name of God, 300 00:14:55,110 --> 00:14:56,920 Mohammed and Ali. 301 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,483 On the path toward God, Mohammed is our guide. 302 00:15:05,530 --> 00:15:07,310 The Alevi have long had the reputation 303 00:15:07,310 --> 00:15:09,040 of being a powerful, progressive force 304 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,270 in Turkish society, but today, they're viewed 305 00:15:11,270 --> 00:15:13,650 with suspicion by the governing Islamist Party, 306 00:15:13,650 --> 00:15:15,660 led by Recep Tayyip Erdoğan. 307 00:15:22,170 --> 00:15:24,420 Rising to the east of the Anatolian plateau 308 00:15:24,420 --> 00:15:25,853 are the Caucasus Mountains. 309 00:15:28,380 --> 00:15:30,360 At the far end of Anatolia, near the border 310 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,993 with present-day Armenia, lies the city of Kars. 311 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,640 At 1700 meters above sea level, in an area 312 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,026 populated by the Kurdish people of the mountains, 313 00:15:39,026 --> 00:15:41,270 it was for a long time an object of dispute 314 00:15:41,270 --> 00:15:43,430 between the Turks and czarist Russia. 315 00:15:43,430 --> 00:15:45,270 There are still remnants of Russian architecture 316 00:15:45,270 --> 00:15:47,770 in the city, as well as former Armenian churches 317 00:15:47,770 --> 00:15:48,863 turned into mosques. 318 00:15:52,130 --> 00:15:54,030 Prosperous caravans have always gone hand-in-hand 319 00:15:54,030 --> 00:15:55,730 with prosperous empires. 320 00:15:55,730 --> 00:15:57,370 In fact, when the Silk Road was at its height 321 00:15:57,370 --> 00:15:59,370 in the first century, the Roman Empire 322 00:15:59,370 --> 00:16:01,970 was at its height in the West, while on the Eastern end, 323 00:16:01,970 --> 00:16:04,460 the Han empire was at its height in China. 324 00:16:04,460 --> 00:16:06,695 Over the centuries, there was also the Pax Mongolica 325 00:16:06,695 --> 00:16:08,860 during the period of the Mongol empire, 326 00:16:08,860 --> 00:16:11,000 which controlled an entire chunk of Asia. 327 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,150 Then there was the Ottoman Empire of the Turks, 328 00:16:13,150 --> 00:16:16,220 the largest of all, stretching from Hungary to Mecca, 329 00:16:16,220 --> 00:16:18,300 from Algiers up to here, to Kars, 330 00:16:18,300 --> 00:16:19,730 on the border with Persia. 331 00:16:19,730 --> 00:16:21,300 But unfortunately for the Turks, when they were 332 00:16:21,300 --> 00:16:23,550 ruling over this vast territory, the Europeans 333 00:16:23,550 --> 00:16:25,710 found a way to bring back spices from the East 334 00:16:25,710 --> 00:16:27,503 by going around Africa by boat. 335 00:16:30,430 --> 00:16:32,680 The establishment of the great maritime trade routes 336 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:34,300 of the beginning of the 16th century, 337 00:16:34,300 --> 00:16:36,540 thus dealt a fateful blow to the Silk Road 338 00:16:36,540 --> 00:16:38,770 and caused cosmopolitan cities like Kars 339 00:16:38,770 --> 00:16:41,540 to decline and become mere garrison towns. 340 00:16:41,540 --> 00:16:43,110 But there are many cultural influences 341 00:16:43,110 --> 00:16:45,920 from the Silk Road that persist in Turkish culture. 342 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:47,690 The Turkic peoples originally came from 343 00:16:47,690 --> 00:16:50,050 Eastern Siberia, not far from China, 344 00:16:50,050 --> 00:16:51,640 and their migration routes paralleled 345 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:52,883 those of the caravans. 346 00:16:54,110 --> 00:16:56,770 The venerable Kurdish luthier, Sali Sahen, 347 00:16:56,770 --> 00:16:58,270 still makes most of the instruments 348 00:16:58,270 --> 00:16:59,780 that come from central Asia. 349 00:16:59,780 --> 00:17:03,240 The saz, the oud, the zither are stringed instruments 350 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:04,193 from the Silk Road. 351 00:17:05,180 --> 00:17:06,850 How did you become a luthier and how did you 352 00:17:06,850 --> 00:17:09,980 learn to play the saz? 353 00:17:09,980 --> 00:17:12,930 I learned to play the saz from my father. 354 00:17:12,930 --> 00:17:15,840 He became interested in the saz and in folk songs 355 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:17,043 when he was very young. 356 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,220 We learned to play music from our father. 357 00:17:20,220 --> 00:17:22,493 My teacher was my father. 358 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:25,353 How do you make a saz? 359 00:17:25,353 --> 00:17:27,293 What kind of wood do you use? 360 00:17:28,310 --> 00:17:31,923 In this area, the saz is made from the mulberry tree. 361 00:17:32,780 --> 00:17:34,993 The best is carved mulberry. 362 00:17:36,251 --> 00:17:38,090 A saz of the highest quality is made 363 00:17:38,090 --> 00:17:40,033 from wood that's allowed to age. 364 00:17:41,610 --> 00:17:43,720 In other words, after the body of the instrument 365 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,069 is finished, you have to wait three or four years 366 00:17:46,069 --> 00:17:48,447 before moving on to the final phase 367 00:17:48,447 --> 00:17:51,087 and being able to play it. 368 00:17:51,087 --> 00:17:53,670 (string music) 369 00:17:58,730 --> 00:18:00,770 If the saz is typically Anatolian, 370 00:18:00,770 --> 00:18:02,860 how did the instruments that are related to it 371 00:18:02,860 --> 00:18:04,160 travel down the Silk Road? 372 00:18:06,026 --> 00:18:09,260 The saz comes to us from Central Asia, 373 00:18:09,260 --> 00:18:12,460 from countries like Iran, Azerbaijan, 374 00:18:12,460 --> 00:18:14,063 Georgia and Turkmenistan. 375 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,570 The city of Kars is the city where it 376 00:18:17,570 --> 00:18:19,543 originally came from in Turkey. 377 00:18:20,380 --> 00:18:22,963 Then from Kars, our instruments spread to Europe. 378 00:18:25,900 --> 00:18:28,318 This is because some 20 civilizations settled 379 00:18:28,318 --> 00:18:31,323 in Kars as they moved westward through Turkey. 380 00:18:33,300 --> 00:18:35,940 Those civilizations left their culture, 381 00:18:35,940 --> 00:18:39,423 their music and their traditions in our city. 382 00:18:40,358 --> 00:18:42,525 (singing) 383 00:18:52,729 --> 00:18:53,840 You're a luthier, a musician 384 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:55,500 and you're also a poet. 385 00:18:55,500 --> 00:18:57,030 That's why they call you "sher." 386 00:18:57,030 --> 00:18:59,430 Where do you get the inspiration for your poems? 387 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:05,270 When I compose music, the words for folk songs, 388 00:19:05,270 --> 00:19:06,860 it's a way for me to keep the culture 389 00:19:06,860 --> 00:19:10,173 of our region and the traditions of the past alive. 390 00:19:11,710 --> 00:19:13,877 (singing) 391 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:19,280 Is this love poem, "My Doe" about a symbolic 392 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,453 woman or a woman who actually exists? 393 00:19:23,100 --> 00:19:25,800 That's a very good question and I can answer 394 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:27,590 it very easily. 395 00:19:27,590 --> 00:19:29,190 Before, according to our customs, 396 00:19:29,190 --> 00:19:32,270 men and women could not openly express their feelings. 397 00:19:32,270 --> 00:19:34,780 It was a tradition connected with the Silk Road. 398 00:19:34,780 --> 00:19:37,440 You couldn't tell the person you loved your feelings. 399 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,610 You had to use an intermediary, a go-between. 400 00:19:40,610 --> 00:19:44,410 So I use the doe here in place of the person I love. 401 00:19:44,410 --> 00:19:45,890 I pretend I'm talking to a doe 402 00:19:45,890 --> 00:19:48,133 so that my feelings are not revealed. 403 00:19:50,499 --> 00:19:52,666 (singing) 404 00:19:58,890 --> 00:20:02,000 I'd have been very sad if I hadn't ever played the saz. 405 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:03,990 If I were born into the world again, 406 00:20:03,990 --> 00:20:05,057 I would play the saz. 407 00:20:06,210 --> 00:20:08,793 (string music) 408 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:23,700 It was near Kars that the former kings 409 00:20:23,700 --> 00:20:25,890 of Armenia chose to establish their capital 410 00:20:25,890 --> 00:20:27,943 despite the extremely harsh climate. 411 00:20:29,540 --> 00:20:32,020 This windswept step takes us to Ani, 412 00:20:32,020 --> 00:20:33,780 which lies on the border between Turkey 413 00:20:33,780 --> 00:20:35,063 and present-day Armenia. 414 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:37,670 Once a republic of the Soviet Union, 415 00:20:37,670 --> 00:20:40,193 Armenia gained its independence in 1991. 416 00:20:43,420 --> 00:20:46,060 It's 15 degrees Celsius below zero this morning, 417 00:20:46,060 --> 00:20:48,380 but that doesn't stop Hussein, an old Kurdish 418 00:20:48,380 --> 00:20:50,910 shepard and his kangal, a guardian dog 419 00:20:50,910 --> 00:20:52,880 trained to fend off the wolves in the area, 420 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,010 from going out with the herd. 421 00:20:55,010 --> 00:20:57,170 A very large Armenian population once lived 422 00:20:57,170 --> 00:20:58,460 everywhere in this region 423 00:20:58,460 --> 00:21:01,060 until the genocide of 1915, in which more 424 00:21:01,060 --> 00:21:03,380 than one million people were killed. 425 00:21:03,380 --> 00:21:05,120 At the time, in the middle of World War I, 426 00:21:05,120 --> 00:21:07,840 the Turkish regime suspected its Armenian minority 427 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,150 of treason and incited the Kurdish tribes 428 00:21:10,150 --> 00:21:11,983 of the Caucauses to go after them. 429 00:21:13,020 --> 00:21:15,040 Turkey refuses to consider what happened 430 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,010 as a genocide and today, relations between 431 00:21:17,010 --> 00:21:19,260 Turkey and Armenia are still strained 432 00:21:19,260 --> 00:21:22,060 and the border between the two countries remains closed. 433 00:21:23,090 --> 00:21:26,040 The ancient Armenian capital, Ani, is situated 434 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,040 just a few meters away from this border, 435 00:21:28,900 --> 00:21:30,890 but it lies by the terrible truth of history 436 00:21:30,890 --> 00:21:31,963 on the Turkish side. 437 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,730 Once a bustling market town on the Silk Road, 438 00:21:35,730 --> 00:21:38,640 it was ravaged by Tamerlane in the 14th century 439 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,160 and in the end, completely abandoned. 440 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,720 It stands as a witness to the great kingdom of Armenia. 441 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,450 Allied with the Roman Empire, then the Byzantine Empire, 442 00:21:47,450 --> 00:21:49,570 then with the crusaders and the Mongols, 443 00:21:49,570 --> 00:21:51,770 Armenia was the first state to officially convert 444 00:21:51,770 --> 00:21:54,520 to Christianity at the beginning of the fourth century. 445 00:21:59,060 --> 00:22:01,170 The bridge built over the Akhurian River, 446 00:22:01,170 --> 00:22:03,640 a river that still serves as the border today, 447 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,570 made Ani a very important crossing point 448 00:22:05,570 --> 00:22:06,553 on the Silk Road. 449 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,210 The Armenians were wealthy merchants and traders. 450 00:22:10,210 --> 00:22:12,460 They were also known to be mercenaries hired to protect 451 00:22:12,460 --> 00:22:15,017 the caravans, says Turkish art historian, 452 00:22:15,017 --> 00:22:17,700 Elsmen Elgoustan, who is part of the conservation 453 00:22:17,700 --> 00:22:18,750 program for the city. 454 00:22:22,860 --> 00:22:24,890 In its hey day, how many people were there in Ani? 455 00:22:24,890 --> 00:22:27,093 How many caravanserais and churches? 456 00:22:29,670 --> 00:22:33,800 In the middle ages, in the period around the year 960, 457 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,460 we're speaking of a population of close 458 00:22:35,460 --> 00:22:37,363 to 100,000 inhabitants. 459 00:22:38,290 --> 00:22:40,320 During that time, it's estimated that Ani 460 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,263 had a higher population than Istanbul. 461 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,163 It was called the City of 1001 Churches. 462 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,313 It was also said at the time that Ani was the world, 463 00:22:51,313 --> 00:22:53,463 but the world was not Ani. 464 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,030 We now find only one caravansery here dating 465 00:23:00,030 --> 00:23:02,190 from the time of the Seljuks. 466 00:23:02,190 --> 00:23:05,400 In the area, there are about 30 sesame oil making 467 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,620 structures and caravanserais with their 468 00:23:07,620 --> 00:23:08,973 accommodation spaces. 469 00:23:10,210 --> 00:23:11,683 Why is it that Ani became such 470 00:23:11,683 --> 00:23:13,760 an important city? 471 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,130 It was mainly due to the Silk Road bridge, 472 00:23:16,130 --> 00:23:17,930 which was built in the 10th century. 473 00:23:19,120 --> 00:23:21,160 This bridge enabled the land route from Asia 474 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,510 to cross over into Anatolia 475 00:23:23,510 --> 00:23:25,835 and as a result, the big caravans as you know, 476 00:23:25,835 --> 00:23:28,580 would first come to Ani as a stopover point 477 00:23:28,580 --> 00:23:29,583 and launching place. 478 00:23:30,460 --> 00:23:33,563 So, because of that, Ani prospered during that period. 479 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,123 What role did the Armenians play with regard 480 00:23:38,123 --> 00:23:39,552 to the Silk Road? 481 00:23:39,552 --> 00:23:41,730 The Armenians were not only soldiers 482 00:23:41,730 --> 00:23:43,850 but also merchants and the people of the region 483 00:23:43,850 --> 00:23:45,343 who were already living here. 484 00:23:46,850 --> 00:23:48,530 The city was in decline for a long time 485 00:23:48,530 --> 00:23:50,180 but what was the fatal blow that left 486 00:23:50,180 --> 00:23:51,623 it empty and in ruins? 487 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,630 It can't be explained by one single thing 488 00:23:55,630 --> 00:23:58,143 because the emigration didn't happen all at once. 489 00:23:59,860 --> 00:24:01,990 Some of the people left after it was destroyed 490 00:24:01,990 --> 00:24:04,503 by Tamerlane, others after the earthquakes. 491 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:07,410 But, the main reason was because the 492 00:24:07,410 --> 00:24:09,803 land routes were replaced with sea routes. 493 00:24:11,020 --> 00:24:13,280 Ani flourished because it was a major trading 494 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:14,423 and commercial center. 495 00:24:15,850 --> 00:24:18,760 If a city loses its importance for trade and commerce, 496 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:20,834 economically speaking, the people have nothing 497 00:24:20,834 --> 00:24:21,993 more to do there. 498 00:24:31,470 --> 00:24:33,887 (soft music) 499 00:24:38,857 --> 00:24:40,460 Do you think the past, for example, 500 00:24:40,460 --> 00:24:42,113 the history of the Silk Road can teach us things 501 00:24:42,113 --> 00:24:43,833 that are useful for the present? 502 00:24:44,783 --> 00:24:48,593 Of course, history is a light for the future. 503 00:24:49,430 --> 00:24:51,343 That is how we must look at history. 504 00:24:52,300 --> 00:24:55,140 And as you know, these days, there's now a new 505 00:24:55,140 --> 00:24:56,993 agenda for the old Silk Road. 506 00:24:59,330 --> 00:25:01,380 In order to give new life to the structures 507 00:25:01,380 --> 00:25:03,703 on this road, we're planning to reopen it. 508 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:13,870 Perched up on the bare and glorious 509 00:25:13,870 --> 00:25:16,110 expanse of the Step, Ani almost seems 510 00:25:16,110 --> 00:25:17,260 to have been forgotten. 511 00:25:18,780 --> 00:25:20,560 Here, the customs watch towers outnumber 512 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,605 the tourist guards that patrol the spectacular 513 00:25:22,605 --> 00:25:25,710 archeological site where herds of wild horses 514 00:25:25,710 --> 00:25:26,923 are still free to roam. 515 00:25:35,341 --> 00:25:37,924 (upbeat music) 40514

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