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Emergency services.
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I need an ambulance.
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544 Castle drive.
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Is that on or off coast?
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544 Castle drive.
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I'm going around back.
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Yes, sir.
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No.
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Get Womack asap!
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We need an ambulance.
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Yes, sir!
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Mobile unit to Womack hospital.
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10-2.
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He's still alive! Get that
ambulance here on the double!
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Yes, sir!
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Let's go!
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Oh, my god.
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What's in here?
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Don't touch anything.
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Lift.
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Joe?
Where are you guys?
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Um, hey, do you mind taking him?
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Mm-hmm.
Come here.
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Here you go.
Go to mama.
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Did you hear back
from Leslie yet?
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No, not yet.
It's okay, just do your work.
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Try calling Leslie again.
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Call the service.
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When you want to take
a break, come find us.
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Okay, great, thank you.
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Okay. Okay.
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Bye, daddy!
Bye.
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Come on, little munchkin.
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Let's go play.
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Service.
Umm, hi, yeah.
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This is Joe McGinniss.
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Can I have my messages, please?
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Bruce Howard's office
called to say
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they are passing on the article,
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but they want to hear
whatever you have next.
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Okay.
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Umm, anything else?
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Mr. Rayburn's
office called at Knopf.
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Still no information about
a tour for the Alaska book,
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but they will let you know
when there is some.
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Okay.
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Anything else?
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Dr. Jeffrey MacDonald called.
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He's a big fan of
"selling of the president,"
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and He'd like to talk to you
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about covering his trial
in north Carolina.
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Do you want the number?
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I'll take the number.
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And give me the number
for "the examiner" archives.
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I want to read more
about MacDonald
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before I meet him.
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Stefan.
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Good to see you.
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- Joe?
- Yeah.
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Jeff MacDonald.
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Hey.
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I appreciate you reaching out.
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I don't know very much
about your case.
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I can hum a few bars,
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but I haven't done
any serious research on it.
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Okay, so what do you know?
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There was a tragedy.
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You lost your wife and kids.
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The army accuses you
of the crime,
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then they change their minds.
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They clear you.
You get an honorable discharge.
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And now, somehow
after nine years,
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you're being dragged
back to north Carolina
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to stand trial in three weeks.
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Yeah, that's about right.
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So, after nine years,
why is this coming back around?
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It was all over.
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But I spoke to the press.
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I wanted people to see
who I was,
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hear me talk about
what happened,
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how the army dragged me
through a trial
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after what happened
to Colette and my kids.
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I spoke out against
the army on TV.
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And for me,
as an ex-green beret.
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Then the army came around
for a second whack at me.
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Freddy Kassab,
my father-in-law...
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He testified on your behalf
originally, right?
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That's a good memory
for just humming a few bars.
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So He started to tell anyone
who would listen to him
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that I was guilty,
that I did it.
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And here we are.
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I need someone to help me
tell my story.
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I want you to write the book.
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I mean, I'm a journalist.
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I don't do "as told to" books.
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I want real reporting.
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I want you to tear
everything up so that none
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of these questions
ever gets asked again.
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That's why I called you.
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I want the truth.
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So, you want me to cover
the trial in north Carolina?
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Yes, cover everything,
not just the trial.
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But be with me, see what
it's like on the inside.
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See what I'm going through
for as long as it takes.
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Umm...
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Look.
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I got a lot of irons
on the fire right now, I...
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Joe, look, I moved
down to California
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because I needed to get away.
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I know how I come off.
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I drive a nice car.
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I date a pretty girl.
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A fancy car just gets you
around, man,
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and the ocean's just a view.
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None of that can fill the hole
of losing your family.
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None of that.
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Leslie, there's no question
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there's something very weird
going on about this case.
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It takes the government
four years to get an indictment.
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And then it takes them
another five years
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to actually bring him to trial
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in north Carolina
in a few weeks.
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So from where I'm sitting,
this feels like
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a nine-year-long
kafka-type ordeal for this guy.
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Nine years?
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What about the right
to a speedy trial?
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Jeffrey MacDonald's defense team
took that
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all the way
to the supreme court and lost.
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What about double jeopardy? You
can't try him twice, can you?
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And that's the second issue that
made it to the supreme court.
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But they refused to review it
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because He was never
actually tried by the army.
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Hmm.
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How about Jeffrey MacDonald?
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How does He strike you?
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I mean, you almost want
to hate the guy at first
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because He looks more
like a movie star
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than most movie stars do,
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but then you realize
at some point that He's haunted.
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I mean, you can see it
in his eyes.
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His wife and children
were slaughtered.
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I mean, what father could
do that to his own kids?
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So, what's the angle?
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My angle?
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What's your angle?
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I'm not sure about my angle yet,
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but there might be
something to the army,
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and now the feds
persecuting him.
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It's been a long time, and
they're still going after him.
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No, I'm good.
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Having access to Jeffrey
and this trial
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could mean
another book as big as
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"selling the president."
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It could be, right?
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He wants me on every defense
meeting, every gameplan session.
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He wants me to live with him,
for god sakes.
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Are you just hopping
into bed with this guy?
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No, I'm gonna go down there,
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and I'm gonna listen
to his story
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with my b.S.
Meter set on high.
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All right, even though
I'm a journalist,
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I have some integrity.
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Come on!
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We both want another
"selling of the president,"
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but I would be lying if I
told you this smells like that.
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What else do I have, Leslie?
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Dr. Harper,
you are needed in the E.R.
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What do we got?
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Stab wound, ulner artery.
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How long ago?
About half hour.
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All right, let's take a look.
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Old faithful there, huh?
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Clamp, please, and let's
get a large pole I.V. Started.
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Thank you.
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Nurse, oxygen.
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You okay?
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You tell me.
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Oh, yeah, we got you covered.
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There we go.
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All right, let's get
him out of here.
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Dr. Silverman, line three.
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Dr. Silverman, line three.
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What are you doing here?
H-how did you find me?
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I just came here to tell you
I'll do it.
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I'm gonna come
to north Carolina.
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That's fantastic.
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Listen, I'm gonna need
two things.
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I want full access
and full freedom
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to write according
to my own judgment.
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I'm going to ask you
some tough questions,
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and you might not
like me very much.
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Dr. MacDonald?
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Absolutely.
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We can... we can go over
all the details
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and travel, all that, tomorrow.
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Good.
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Hey, they're throwing me
a send-off party.
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You have to promise me to come.
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Sure.
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All right.
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I like you already, Joe.
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But you could have just called.
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Dr. Benson...
Dr. Benson...
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I had no idea.
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Yeah, everyone.
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It means the world
that you're here.
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One more, please.
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Yeah.
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May I have
everyone's attention, please?
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Jeff, it goes without saying
how much we all believe in you,
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but to show you just
how much we love you,
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we got you a little something.
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Well, you shouldn't have.
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All right, this...
Oh, my goodness.
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Here.
Huh?
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Thank you.
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And thank you all for coming.
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Wow, it means the world to me.
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I'm sure I'll be back here
in a couple of weeks,
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but until then, drink
everything we got here.
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Yeah, yeah,
come here, come here.
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Oh, sweet boy.
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I'm sorry.
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Daddy's gotta go do
some work, okay?
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I'll see you soon.
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I'll see you soon.
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Bye, sweetie.
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I just... I wish they were
more appropriate to your standards.
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I think it's...
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- Joe!
- Hey.
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Joe, I'm so excited you're here.
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Look at...
This is great, hey.
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You just caught us
at cocktail hour.
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You cleaned up.
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Yeah, it's... well, we got a big
couple weeks coming up, huh?
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Yeah.
Come on, come meet everybody.
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Joe, this is my mom.
This is Perry.
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Oh, Mr. McGinniss.
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Nice to meet you.
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And this is...
This is Bernie Segal,
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our fearless leader.
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Bernie has been my guy
since the beginning.
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Is that right?
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Uhh, Bernie, nice to meet you.
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I've heard about your work
with the war protestors.
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Good to have you with us.
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You can help us with
the public face of all this.
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We sure hope so.
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And Joe, this is Wade Smith,
attorney at law.
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Very nice to meet you.
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Thank Wade's college
connections for landing us here
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at this frat house.
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Guilty as charged.
Yeah.
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It's not ideal,
but it's a lot more
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private than a hotel would be.
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Wade, I told you
He was gonna be here.
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Yes.
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Yes, you did.
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Let me guess.
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Scotch and soda?
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What soda?
That's what I like to hear.
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Mom?
264
00:15:09,676 --> 00:15:11,609
You know, it's funny being back
on a college campus.
265
00:15:11,611 --> 00:15:13,877
Colette and I got married
when I was in Princeton.
266
00:15:13,879 --> 00:15:14,945
Really?
267
00:15:14,947 --> 00:15:16,480
When was the first time
you met Colette?
268
00:15:16,482 --> 00:15:21,618
That's crazy,
but I was 12 years old.
269
00:15:21,620 --> 00:15:23,821
12, if you can believe it.
270
00:15:23,823 --> 00:15:27,225
It took a few more years
to fall in love.
271
00:15:27,227 --> 00:15:31,829
♪ Sha la la la la la ♪
272
00:15:31,831 --> 00:15:33,497
Are you nervous?
273
00:15:33,499 --> 00:15:35,366
No.
274
00:15:35,368 --> 00:15:36,967
Well, maybe.
275
00:15:36,969 --> 00:15:38,102
Mm-hmm.
276
00:15:39,372 --> 00:15:42,974
Hello, hello.
Welcome.
277
00:15:42,976 --> 00:15:45,642
Merry Christmas.
278
00:15:45,644 --> 00:15:47,111
Look at you.
Oh!
279
00:15:47,113 --> 00:15:48,445
Mrs. Kassab, how are you?
280
00:15:48,447 --> 00:15:49,513
Merry Christmas to you.
281
00:15:49,515 --> 00:15:51,716
Where's your coat?
282
00:15:51,718 --> 00:15:52,984
We didn't think it was
gonna be so cold.
283
00:15:52,986 --> 00:15:54,184
It's freezing.
284
00:15:54,186 --> 00:15:55,319
And this is...
This is the two of you.
285
00:15:55,321 --> 00:15:57,055
Mm-hmm, saying goodbye.
286
00:15:57,057 --> 00:15:58,456
And this one is you, as well.
287
00:15:58,458 --> 00:16:00,325
Yes, that's me right out
of officer's school,
288
00:16:00,327 --> 00:16:03,661
and the one above is after
a few months in Europe.
289
00:16:03,663 --> 00:16:07,732
Wow.
So, how's Princeton?
290
00:16:07,734 --> 00:16:08,733
Hard work.
291
00:16:08,735 --> 00:16:10,668
Heck of a nice campus,
just beautiful.
292
00:16:10,670 --> 00:16:12,136
Ta-da!
Dinner is served.
293
00:16:12,138 --> 00:16:14,271
Oh, my, my, my.
Look at that Turkey.
294
00:16:14,273 --> 00:16:15,606
It's heavy.
295
00:16:15,608 --> 00:16:17,208
Freddy was actually
Colette's stepfather,
296
00:16:17,210 --> 00:16:19,610
but Colette absolutely
adored Freddy.
297
00:16:19,612 --> 00:16:21,612
She never called him
anything but dad,
298
00:16:21,614 --> 00:16:23,280
and when she decided
that she loved me,
299
00:16:23,282 --> 00:16:24,882
and I was part of the family,
300
00:16:24,884 --> 00:16:27,018
Freddy absolutely
welcomed me in.
301
00:16:27,020 --> 00:16:32,423
♪ About you
sha la la la la ♪
302
00:16:32,425 --> 00:16:37,094
♪ They say they say you never,
never, never, never been true ♪
303
00:16:37,096 --> 00:16:38,029
Oh, thank you.
304
00:16:38,031 --> 00:16:40,698
Is that a curtsy?
305
00:16:40,700 --> 00:16:45,169
♪ Doesn't matter
what they say I know ♪
306
00:16:45,171 --> 00:16:50,374
♪ I'm gonna love you
any old way what can I do ♪
307
00:16:50,376 --> 00:16:55,246
♪ When it's true
don't want nobody, ♪
308
00:16:55,248 --> 00:16:59,784
♪ Nobody 'cause baby,
it's you ♪
309
00:17:02,855 --> 00:17:05,656
♪ Baby, it's you ♪
310
00:17:06,659 --> 00:17:09,527
♪ Baby, it's you ♪
311
00:17:09,529 --> 00:17:10,728
What is it about her?
312
00:17:13,333 --> 00:17:16,934
She was the nicest
person I ever met.
313
00:17:16,936 --> 00:17:18,669
All right, I have
a surprise for you?
314
00:17:18,671 --> 00:17:20,405
What?
What are you doing?
315
00:17:20,407 --> 00:17:21,606
Come on.
Keep your eyes closed.
316
00:17:21,608 --> 00:17:23,407
Careful.
317
00:17:23,409 --> 00:17:26,611
Don't peek.
318
00:17:26,613 --> 00:17:28,278
Okay, you stay right here.
319
00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,481
Keep your eyes closed.
320
00:17:30,483 --> 00:17:33,017
What did you do?
321
00:17:33,019 --> 00:17:36,020
Okay, open 'em.
322
00:17:36,022 --> 00:17:37,622
Oh, my god.
323
00:17:37,624 --> 00:17:40,425
What do you think
of that beauty?
324
00:17:40,427 --> 00:17:42,960
This must have cost a fortune.
325
00:17:42,962 --> 00:17:44,962
Jeff, you can't keep
doing things like this.
326
00:17:44,964 --> 00:17:48,633
I love watching you get excited.
327
00:17:48,635 --> 00:17:50,301
Can I play it?
Of course.
328
00:17:50,303 --> 00:17:51,302
This is all yours, babe.
329
00:17:51,304 --> 00:17:54,305
We were a good team.
330
00:17:54,307 --> 00:17:56,306
You know, we knew how to
take care of the girls
331
00:17:56,308 --> 00:17:58,843
and give each other
the space we needed, too.
332
00:17:58,845 --> 00:18:03,181
How'd you do that,
have your own space?
333
00:18:03,183 --> 00:18:04,848
Colette, she never
finished college,
334
00:18:04,850 --> 00:18:08,051
and she started getting
interested in psychology,
335
00:18:08,053 --> 00:18:10,121
child development classes.
336
00:18:10,123 --> 00:18:13,457
So she did that a couple
of nights a week,
337
00:18:13,459 --> 00:18:16,059
and I'd take care of the girls.
338
00:18:16,061 --> 00:18:17,728
All right.
Daddy.
339
00:18:17,730 --> 00:18:20,398
For you.
340
00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,133
For you.
Mm.
341
00:18:22,135 --> 00:18:24,936
Thank you, daddy.
342
00:18:30,810 --> 00:18:33,945
Okay. Bye, girls.
I love you.
343
00:18:33,947 --> 00:18:35,346
Bye, sweetie.
Have fun.
344
00:18:35,348 --> 00:18:36,613
Yeah, I love you.
345
00:18:36,615 --> 00:18:38,249
♪ But it's too late ♪
346
00:18:38,251 --> 00:18:40,485
♪ Too late to cry ♪
all right,
347
00:18:40,487 --> 00:18:42,687
who's gonna want
another hot dog?
348
00:18:42,689 --> 00:18:44,088
Me!
Me!
349
00:18:44,090 --> 00:18:46,891
What'd you do for space?
350
00:18:46,893 --> 00:18:48,559
I got into boxing.
351
00:18:48,561 --> 00:18:49,627
Boxing?
Yeah.
352
00:18:49,629 --> 00:18:52,029
Okay, Joe Frazier.
353
00:18:52,031 --> 00:18:53,163
Hardly.
354
00:18:53,165 --> 00:18:55,700
I was the doctor
for the base boxing team.
355
00:18:55,702 --> 00:18:58,569
I caught the bug and started
training with them.
356
00:18:58,571 --> 00:19:00,037
They were getting
ready for this...
357
00:19:00,039 --> 00:19:02,372
This big competition in Russia.
358
00:19:02,374 --> 00:19:03,840
It was a big trip.
359
00:19:03,842 --> 00:19:05,376
I'd be gone for about a month.
360
00:19:05,378 --> 00:19:07,778
Colette was gonna let you
go to Russia for a month.
361
00:19:07,780 --> 00:19:09,513
Yeah.
362
00:19:09,515 --> 00:19:10,982
She was all for it.
363
00:19:10,984 --> 00:19:13,251
Really my biggest concern
was making weight for the match.
364
00:19:13,253 --> 00:19:14,852
I didn't want to look
like a joker
365
00:19:14,854 --> 00:19:17,188
in front of the younger guys.
366
00:19:17,190 --> 00:19:18,989
I remember that afternoon.
367
00:19:18,991 --> 00:19:22,793
I came home from work,
368
00:19:22,795 --> 00:19:27,632
and it was a 24-hour shift
in an off-base E.R.
369
00:19:27,634 --> 00:19:30,468
I was firing on all cylinders.
370
00:19:30,470 --> 00:19:32,803
- Hello.
- Daddy!
371
00:19:34,541 --> 00:19:37,108
I felt like a superhero,
you know?
372
00:19:43,683 --> 00:19:46,217
And it happened
later that night.
373
00:19:50,756 --> 00:19:53,424
Some superhero.
374
00:20:03,703 --> 00:20:06,571
Mr. McGinniss?
375
00:20:06,573 --> 00:20:08,705
Joe.
Okay.
376
00:20:08,707 --> 00:20:09,974
Joe.
377
00:20:09,976 --> 00:20:13,910
Umm, when Jeffrey packed up
the house at fort Bragg,
378
00:20:13,912 --> 00:20:16,313
I held onto some
of the family things.
379
00:20:16,315 --> 00:20:19,650
It's some old home movies.
380
00:20:19,652 --> 00:20:22,386
Anything I can take
a look at helps.
381
00:20:22,388 --> 00:20:25,456
I know you're busy,
but please watch these
382
00:20:25,458 --> 00:20:30,928
so that you can really see my
granddaughters and our family.
383
00:20:30,930 --> 00:20:34,431
They were beautiful.
384
00:22:02,155 --> 00:22:04,955
That was a day
I'll never forget.
385
00:22:04,957 --> 00:22:06,023
So sorry.
386
00:22:06,025 --> 00:22:07,625
I can...
I can watch this later.
387
00:22:07,627 --> 00:22:08,892
No, no, it's okay.
388
00:22:08,894 --> 00:22:13,697
Umm, where did you get these?
389
00:22:13,699 --> 00:22:16,100
Your mother.
390
00:22:19,439 --> 00:22:21,572
Please, go ahead.
I want to see them.
391
00:22:21,574 --> 00:22:23,107
You sure?
Yeah.
392
00:22:42,060 --> 00:22:43,527
So that's Kristen?
393
00:22:43,529 --> 00:22:46,530
Yeah, I remember the first time
we brought her home.
394
00:22:46,532 --> 00:22:48,733
All Kimberly wanted to do
was hold her.
395
00:22:48,735 --> 00:22:51,535
She really just wanted
to pinch her.
396
00:22:51,537 --> 00:22:53,237
She was so jealous.
397
00:23:02,681 --> 00:23:05,149
And that day, wow.
398
00:23:05,151 --> 00:23:08,152
That was a great day.
399
00:23:08,154 --> 00:23:10,421
Colette and I took the girls
to visit their pony.
400
00:23:17,964 --> 00:23:20,364
I think that was the first time
Kristen was ever on a horse.
401
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:31,909
How long was this
before the night they died?
402
00:23:37,116 --> 00:23:40,718
It'd be a month before they
died, maybe not even.
403
00:24:01,340 --> 00:24:05,409
How many kids do you have, Joe?
404
00:24:05,411 --> 00:24:07,411
Me, I have four.
405
00:24:07,413 --> 00:24:10,614
I have a little boy
named Matthew with my wife
406
00:24:10,616 --> 00:24:14,618
and three from
a previous marriage.
407
00:24:14,620 --> 00:24:17,754
How often do you
get to see them?
408
00:24:17,756 --> 00:24:22,493
Umm...
Not as much as I'd like.
409
00:24:22,495 --> 00:24:26,897
I met Nancy while I was
still married, so...
410
00:24:30,435 --> 00:24:35,639
I try, but...
411
00:24:35,641 --> 00:24:37,307
Trust me.
412
00:24:37,309 --> 00:24:39,109
Spend as much time
with them as you can.
413
00:24:43,583 --> 00:24:44,715
Okay.
414
00:24:44,717 --> 00:24:50,521
Umm, you want to tell me
what happened that night?
415
00:24:50,523 --> 00:24:53,457
The night they died?
416
00:24:53,459 --> 00:24:55,459
Sure.
417
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,067
One of the girls had wet
my side of the bed.
418
00:25:03,069 --> 00:25:05,736
It was late.
419
00:25:05,738 --> 00:25:07,805
Thought it'd be easier
to sleep in the living room
420
00:25:07,807 --> 00:25:10,941
than change the sheets.
421
00:25:10,943 --> 00:25:14,411
Dad, why are they
doing this to me?
422
00:25:14,413 --> 00:25:16,880
This is groovy.
423
00:25:16,882 --> 00:25:18,815
Kill the pigs.
Daddy!
424
00:25:18,817 --> 00:25:23,420
Acid rain.
Daddy!
425
00:25:46,913 --> 00:25:48,913
Colette?
426
00:25:59,592 --> 00:26:01,792
Okay.
427
00:26:01,794 --> 00:26:04,728
Oh, god.
No, no.
428
00:26:04,730 --> 00:26:06,463
Come on.
Come on.
429
00:26:06,465 --> 00:26:08,465
Oh, god.
430
00:26:12,738 --> 00:26:15,539
Oh, god, no.
431
00:26:15,541 --> 00:26:16,674
Help me.
432
00:26:22,547 --> 00:26:24,415
Oh, god.
No.
433
00:26:24,417 --> 00:26:28,552
No, no, no, no.
434
00:26:35,094 --> 00:26:40,898
No.
435
00:26:51,377 --> 00:26:53,310
Emergency services.
436
00:26:53,312 --> 00:26:54,778
I need an ambulance.
437
00:26:54,780 --> 00:26:57,047
544 castle drive.
438
00:26:57,049 --> 00:27:00,050
Is that on or off coast?
439
00:27:00,052 --> 00:27:02,386
544 castle drive.
440
00:27:02,388 --> 00:27:05,389
Help. Hurry.
441
00:27:22,675 --> 00:27:24,875
I was probably in shock.
442
00:27:24,877 --> 00:27:26,209
I didn't realize at the time,
443
00:27:26,211 --> 00:27:31,348
but when they examined me
later at the hospital,
444
00:27:31,350 --> 00:27:35,085
one of my lungs
was partially collapsed.
445
00:27:35,087 --> 00:27:38,221
You know, Colette was pregnant.
446
00:27:56,041 --> 00:27:58,775
Ms. MacDonald?
447
00:27:58,777 --> 00:28:01,578
Just... I wanted to thank you
for the home movies.
448
00:28:01,580 --> 00:28:05,649
You were right, they were
a beautiful family.
449
00:28:05,651 --> 00:28:07,584
Did you see the one with Colette
450
00:28:07,586 --> 00:28:10,320
leaving the hospital
with Kristen?
451
00:28:10,322 --> 00:28:11,321
I did, yeah.
452
00:28:11,323 --> 00:28:14,390
That must have been
a special day.
453
00:28:14,392 --> 00:28:16,860
Didn't Jeffrey tell you
what happened?
454
00:28:16,862 --> 00:28:19,263
No, He didn't tell me
what happened.
455
00:28:21,466 --> 00:28:23,867
Jeffrey was at the hospital
with Colette
456
00:28:23,869 --> 00:28:26,203
not long after
she had given birth.
457
00:28:26,205 --> 00:28:29,807
Kristen had been
an emergency c-section.
458
00:28:29,809 --> 00:28:36,613
Jeffrey all of a sudden gets
this serious look on his face.
459
00:28:36,615 --> 00:28:40,683
He just knew
something was wrong.
460
00:28:40,685 --> 00:28:43,553
The way that really good doctors
know these things.
461
00:28:43,555 --> 00:28:45,689
She had bled almost
half of the blood
462
00:28:45,691 --> 00:28:49,493
from her entire body
into her abdomen.
463
00:28:49,495 --> 00:28:52,295
But He caught it in time.
464
00:28:52,297 --> 00:28:55,632
Jeffrey saved her life
that day, no question.
465
00:28:55,634 --> 00:28:57,300
Umm, no, yeah.
466
00:28:57,302 --> 00:29:00,704
He didn't...
He didn't tell me that.
467
00:29:00,706 --> 00:29:02,439
He doesn't like to tell people.
468
00:29:04,443 --> 00:29:06,976
Colette would have died.
469
00:29:06,978 --> 00:29:10,848
Jeffrey saved her life.
470
00:29:10,850 --> 00:29:13,417
Well, thank god He was there.
471
00:29:20,593 --> 00:29:22,259
Gentlemen?
Sorry to disturb you.
472
00:29:22,261 --> 00:29:25,863
Can I grab the transcripts from
the article 32 hearing, please?
473
00:29:28,867 --> 00:29:30,601
Sure, you bet.
474
00:29:30,603 --> 00:29:33,536
Great.
475
00:29:36,474 --> 00:29:38,342
Say, is there a problem
with me, Wade?
476
00:29:40,412 --> 00:29:42,546
Actually, yes, there is.
477
00:29:42,548 --> 00:29:46,150
See, I'm trying to keep my
client out of jail, and you...
478
00:29:48,287 --> 00:29:50,554
See, when Jeff looks at you,
479
00:29:50,556 --> 00:29:53,023
He sees someone
who can save his image.
480
00:29:53,025 --> 00:29:55,492
But when I look at you,
I see someone
481
00:29:55,494 --> 00:29:57,227
who's been dining out
on the same success
482
00:29:57,229 --> 00:29:58,761
for the last ten years.
483
00:29:58,763 --> 00:30:03,300
Someone who's only interested in
Joe McGinniss's next bestseller.
484
00:30:03,302 --> 00:30:05,168
Can't it be both, Wade?
485
00:30:05,170 --> 00:30:07,104
Wade, take it easy.
486
00:30:07,106 --> 00:30:08,705
Joe's on our side.
487
00:30:08,707 --> 00:30:12,309
Right, Joe?
488
00:30:12,311 --> 00:30:15,312
Thank you, Bernie.
489
00:30:15,314 --> 00:30:18,515
Do reporters take sides, Joe?!
490
00:30:49,815 --> 00:30:51,215
Blood splatter right here.
491
00:30:56,154 --> 00:30:57,620
Mark it seven.
492
00:30:57,622 --> 00:30:59,690
Here.
493
00:30:59,692 --> 00:31:00,692
Mark that one.
494
00:31:51,277 --> 00:31:54,878
It was a disaster.
495
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,212
The army investigation.
496
00:31:58,283 --> 00:32:00,150
Coffee?
497
00:32:00,152 --> 00:32:02,619
Yeah.
498
00:32:06,558 --> 00:32:07,824
So tell me.
499
00:32:07,826 --> 00:32:10,827
What was your favorite part?
500
00:32:10,829 --> 00:32:12,763
I mean, I don't even know
where to begin.
501
00:32:12,765 --> 00:32:15,098
No control of the crime scene.
502
00:32:15,100 --> 00:32:16,700
Every piece of
the physical evidence
503
00:32:16,702 --> 00:32:19,036
potentially contaminated.
504
00:32:19,038 --> 00:32:22,773
Or how about no one thought
to take hair samples
505
00:32:22,775 --> 00:32:24,975
from the victims
until after the funerals?
506
00:32:24,977 --> 00:32:28,445
They got their hair
exemplars from old clothes,
507
00:32:28,447 --> 00:32:32,182
which turned out to be
totally unreliable.
508
00:32:32,184 --> 00:32:34,517
The hair sample they had
marked as Jeff's...
509
00:32:34,519 --> 00:32:36,453
Turned out to be
the family pony's.
510
00:32:36,455 --> 00:32:38,321
Well, they were both brunettes.
511
00:32:38,323 --> 00:32:39,789
What about the
fingerprint technician
512
00:32:39,791 --> 00:32:41,191
when He developed the film?
513
00:32:41,193 --> 00:32:43,726
Photos that were so blurry,
they couldn't even use them.
514
00:32:43,728 --> 00:32:46,797
It was the Olympics
of incompetence.
515
00:32:46,799 --> 00:32:48,432
And now you know.
516
00:32:48,434 --> 00:32:49,465
Well, that's your move, right?
517
00:32:49,467 --> 00:32:50,933
I mean, the government
has no case.
518
00:32:50,935 --> 00:32:52,869
Oh, no.
519
00:32:52,871 --> 00:32:55,238
We got something to top it all.
520
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,274
Helena Stoeckley,
the girl in the floppy hat.
521
00:32:58,276 --> 00:32:59,409
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
522
00:32:59,411 --> 00:33:01,611
We know who she is.
523
00:33:01,613 --> 00:33:05,882
She was a local kid,
17 at the time, an army brat.
524
00:33:05,884 --> 00:33:07,818
Her father was a captain.
525
00:33:07,820 --> 00:33:09,553
She was a hippie.
526
00:33:09,555 --> 00:33:11,555
Heavy into drugs.
527
00:33:11,557 --> 00:33:15,292
And she confessed
to being there.
528
00:33:15,294 --> 00:33:16,426
You're kidding me.
No.
529
00:33:16,428 --> 00:33:17,961
One of the MPs that came
to the house
530
00:33:17,963 --> 00:33:19,696
that night said He saw her.
531
00:33:19,698 --> 00:33:22,966
He told his sergeant
about what He saw.
532
00:33:22,968 --> 00:33:26,236
His sergeant didn't follow up.
533
00:33:26,238 --> 00:33:27,437
Do you know where she is?
534
00:33:27,439 --> 00:33:29,039
No, we're looking for her.
535
00:33:29,041 --> 00:33:33,377
But we have signed affidavits
from six separate individuals
536
00:33:33,379 --> 00:33:35,445
who Helena Stoeckley told
537
00:33:35,447 --> 00:33:37,647
she was at Jeff's house
during the murders.
538
00:33:37,649 --> 00:33:42,185
And that she watched it
all happen.
539
00:33:42,187 --> 00:33:44,587
I filed a motion with the judge.
540
00:33:44,589 --> 00:33:50,593
The jury will hear all of this.
541
00:33:50,595 --> 00:33:53,796
All right, so the prosecution.
542
00:33:53,798 --> 00:33:55,665
Who are these guys?
It's your bet, Joe.
543
00:33:55,667 --> 00:33:59,202
Well, ante up, boys.
544
00:33:59,204 --> 00:34:00,537
Blackburn.
545
00:34:00,539 --> 00:34:03,272
This guy is straight
out of Mayberry.
546
00:34:03,274 --> 00:34:05,075
It's his first murder trial.
547
00:34:05,077 --> 00:34:06,476
They brought him in
to take the edge off
548
00:34:06,478 --> 00:34:11,148
of Brian Murtagh who's been
on Jeff since December of '71.
549
00:34:11,150 --> 00:34:14,217
He's Freddy Kassab's muscle,
his attack dog.
550
00:34:14,219 --> 00:34:16,553
Well, if they say Jeff
did it, how and why?
551
00:34:16,555 --> 00:34:19,155
Exactly, how and why
does an Ivy league,
552
00:34:19,157 --> 00:34:22,492
green beret doctor
one night snap
553
00:34:22,494 --> 00:34:24,494
and kill his whole family?
554
00:34:24,496 --> 00:34:26,496
Never been in
any kind of trouble.
555
00:34:26,498 --> 00:34:29,632
He's a pillar in his community.
556
00:34:29,634 --> 00:34:33,503
And one night, He goes
looney tunes and just explodes?
557
00:34:33,505 --> 00:34:34,971
And get this.
558
00:34:37,375 --> 00:34:40,710
They say He got the idea
from a magazine
559
00:34:40,712 --> 00:34:43,313
they found in the house
that had an article
560
00:34:43,315 --> 00:34:46,249
about the Manson family in it,
can you believe it?
561
00:34:46,251 --> 00:34:47,717
And that's what
they're going with?
562
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,119
This is the drum
563
00:34:49,121 --> 00:34:51,921
Brian Murtagh has been
beating for eight years.
564
00:34:51,923 --> 00:34:53,056
He was on a witch hunt.
565
00:34:53,058 --> 00:34:55,258
Murtagh's a son of a bitch.
He's a viper.
566
00:34:55,260 --> 00:34:58,261
The man is a menace.
567
00:34:58,263 --> 00:34:59,396
Right.
568
00:35:03,935 --> 00:35:06,269
I'm all-in.
569
00:35:06,271 --> 00:35:08,004
Whoa.
570
00:35:08,006 --> 00:35:10,473
I fold.
571
00:35:10,475 --> 00:35:12,909
I'm out.
572
00:35:23,822 --> 00:35:27,557
I fold.
573
00:36:00,926 --> 00:36:04,861
Mr. Murtagh.
574
00:36:04,863 --> 00:36:06,996
We meet again.
575
00:36:06,998 --> 00:36:08,598
And again.
576
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,601
Until we get it right.
577
00:36:11,603 --> 00:36:13,135
Dr. MacDonald.
578
00:36:13,137 --> 00:36:15,004
How do you like being back
in north Carolina?
579
00:36:18,677 --> 00:36:20,377
Come on, Jeff.
580
00:36:24,950 --> 00:36:26,116
He seems confident.
581
00:36:29,420 --> 00:36:32,355
The government will show
that in the early morning
582
00:36:32,357 --> 00:36:37,426
of February 17, 1970,
Jeffrey MacDonald,
583
00:36:37,428 --> 00:36:40,163
for reasons we might
never understand,
584
00:36:40,165 --> 00:36:42,699
did in fact, attack, bludgeon,
585
00:36:42,701 --> 00:36:45,635
and stab his wife
and his two daughters to death.
586
00:36:45,637 --> 00:36:49,839
And then staged his home
to look as though
587
00:36:49,841 --> 00:36:52,108
it was the work of intruders.
588
00:36:52,110 --> 00:36:55,312
Cooking up a story
about murderous hippies
589
00:36:55,314 --> 00:36:59,649
to try to throw suspicion
off himself.
590
00:36:59,651 --> 00:37:02,185
Ladies and gentlemen
of the jury,
591
00:37:02,187 --> 00:37:03,986
at the heart of our case
592
00:37:03,988 --> 00:37:05,655
is the proposition
593
00:37:05,657 --> 00:37:08,324
that people can twist the truth,
594
00:37:08,326 --> 00:37:12,261
but that things do not lie.
595
00:37:12,263 --> 00:37:15,665
And we will prove that there is
no other explanation
596
00:37:15,667 --> 00:37:18,000
for how those vibrant
little girls
597
00:37:18,002 --> 00:37:19,603
and their mother could have died
598
00:37:19,605 --> 00:37:21,838
except at the hands
of their own father.
599
00:37:24,342 --> 00:37:27,677
The government has a bad case.
600
00:37:27,679 --> 00:37:30,213
Because they don't have
a good villain.
601
00:37:30,215 --> 00:37:33,349
What they do have is
a loving father and husband,
602
00:37:33,351 --> 00:37:37,687
not to mention a doctor
and a green beret.
603
00:37:37,689 --> 00:37:41,891
This is a story of a man's life
that was tragically altered
604
00:37:41,893 --> 00:37:46,295
when four drugged-out hippies
broke into his home,
605
00:37:46,297 --> 00:37:50,567
murdered his wife,
his two lovely little girls,
606
00:37:50,569 --> 00:37:53,903
and left him for dead.
607
00:37:53,905 --> 00:37:58,441
Now, the prosecution can offer
no motive for these murders
608
00:37:58,443 --> 00:38:03,780
because Jeffrey MacDonald had no
motive for killing his family.
609
00:38:07,185 --> 00:38:10,720
Sergeant mica, remind me again
when you were relieved of duty
610
00:38:10,722 --> 00:38:13,456
and turned the crime scene over.
611
00:38:13,458 --> 00:38:16,326
At 0700 hours,
my superior officer arrived
612
00:38:16,328 --> 00:38:18,327
at the crime scene
and took over.
613
00:38:18,329 --> 00:38:19,596
To the best of your knowledge,
614
00:38:19,598 --> 00:38:21,397
did you carry out
standard protocol
615
00:38:21,399 --> 00:38:24,333
for processing a crime scene?
616
00:38:24,335 --> 00:38:28,271
To the best of
my knowledge, sir, yes.
617
00:38:28,273 --> 00:38:29,739
Thank you, sergeant.
618
00:38:29,741 --> 00:38:32,242
No further questions.
619
00:38:39,751 --> 00:38:44,687
So, sergeant, you were in charge
of the investigation that night,
620
00:38:44,689 --> 00:38:45,888
is that correct?
621
00:38:45,890 --> 00:38:48,691
Yes, sir.
622
00:38:48,693 --> 00:38:52,628
And tell me, how many
crime scenes
623
00:38:52,630 --> 00:38:57,500
of this magnitude
have you processed?
624
00:38:57,502 --> 00:38:59,903
Of this magnitude, none, sir.
625
00:39:02,907 --> 00:39:05,842
Can you tell me, sergeant,
how many military policemen
626
00:39:05,844 --> 00:39:10,112
were in that house
the night you were there?
627
00:39:10,114 --> 00:39:13,649
Maybe a dozen.
628
00:39:13,651 --> 00:39:18,721
And did you attempt to compile a
list of names of who was there?
629
00:39:18,723 --> 00:39:20,723
No, sir.
630
00:39:20,725 --> 00:39:24,861
So, you have no idea
who actually came
631
00:39:24,863 --> 00:39:27,730
and went that night.
632
00:39:27,732 --> 00:39:32,068
Not exactly.
633
00:39:32,070 --> 00:39:35,071
And when did you discover that
one of your men had stolen
634
00:39:35,073 --> 00:39:38,875
Dr. MacDonald's
wallet from a desk
635
00:39:38,877 --> 00:39:41,745
in the active crime scene?
636
00:39:41,747 --> 00:39:44,080
That I learned later.
637
00:39:44,082 --> 00:39:47,884
And after hearing
Dr. MacDonald's description
638
00:39:47,886 --> 00:39:50,620
of the four assailants,
639
00:39:50,622 --> 00:39:56,693
did you order road blocks
at the exits of the post?
640
00:39:56,695 --> 00:39:57,960
No, sir.
641
00:39:57,962 --> 00:40:00,963
Even after one of your men
said He saw a woman
642
00:40:00,965 --> 00:40:03,433
matching the description
of the female suspect,
643
00:40:03,435 --> 00:40:09,706
a woman with long, blonde hair
and a floppy hat in the area?
644
00:40:09,708 --> 00:40:10,840
No.
645
00:40:17,449 --> 00:40:20,116
The court is recessed
until 9:00 A.M. tomorrow.
646
00:40:23,254 --> 00:40:25,388
We had a good day.
647
00:40:25,390 --> 00:40:26,990
You think the jury was with me?
648
00:40:26,992 --> 00:40:28,324
Yeah.
649
00:40:28,326 --> 00:40:29,592
Yeah, I do.
650
00:40:29,594 --> 00:40:32,194
That's good to hear, Joe,
because I trust you.
651
00:40:32,196 --> 00:40:33,329
Thank you.
652
00:40:33,331 --> 00:40:34,263
Thank you for being here
to tell the story.
653
00:40:34,265 --> 00:40:37,200
Of course.
I'm here for you.
654
00:40:39,871 --> 00:40:41,204
Good morning, gentlemen.
655
00:40:41,206 --> 00:40:43,873
I'm not going to allow the
psychological evaluations in.
656
00:40:43,875 --> 00:40:45,008
Any of them.
657
00:40:45,010 --> 00:40:46,676
But your honor?
658
00:40:46,678 --> 00:40:48,811
The evaluations
are critical to our case.
659
00:40:48,813 --> 00:40:51,547
They speak to our
client's state of mind.
660
00:40:51,549 --> 00:40:55,752
They show that Jeffrey MacDonald
was not capable of such a crime.
661
00:40:55,754 --> 00:40:58,021
Mr. Segal,
your evaluation says one thing,
662
00:40:58,023 --> 00:40:59,422
prosecution says another.
663
00:40:59,424 --> 00:41:02,425
I'm not going allow this to turn
into a shrink versus shrink.
664
00:41:02,427 --> 00:41:05,361
That's my decision.
665
00:41:05,363 --> 00:41:08,431
Now, in regard to
the defense's motion
666
00:41:08,433 --> 00:41:11,568
to enter witness
affidavits into evidence
667
00:41:11,570 --> 00:41:13,303
concerning
the confession statements
668
00:41:13,305 --> 00:41:16,172
of one Helena Stoeckley,
669
00:41:16,174 --> 00:41:20,310
I'm denying that motion also
because it's based on hearsay.
670
00:41:20,312 --> 00:41:23,847
With respect, your honor,
we have six separate witnesses
671
00:41:23,849 --> 00:41:25,982
who corroborate
that Helena Stoeckley
672
00:41:25,984 --> 00:41:27,717
confessed to being present
673
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:31,254
at the MacDonald home
during the murders.
674
00:41:31,256 --> 00:41:34,790
Keeping this from the jury...
I made my ruling.
675
00:41:34,792 --> 00:41:37,060
If Ms. Stoeckley
herself wishes to testify,
676
00:41:37,062 --> 00:41:39,596
then she is free to do so.
677
00:41:48,673 --> 00:41:50,406
I think the jury
will be on my side.
678
00:41:50,408 --> 00:41:51,875
What do you girls think?
679
00:41:51,877 --> 00:41:53,142
Yeah?
680
00:41:53,144 --> 00:41:54,277
You sure?
681
00:41:54,279 --> 00:41:57,213
Yes, of course.
682
00:41:57,215 --> 00:42:00,216
I like your paper.
683
00:42:02,754 --> 00:42:04,687
All right.
684
00:42:15,700 --> 00:42:16,966
My name is Paul Stombaugh,
685
00:42:16,968 --> 00:42:19,569
and I am the director
of the police service bureau,
686
00:42:19,571 --> 00:42:22,171
and I run
the crime laboratory there.
687
00:42:22,173 --> 00:42:25,441
Prior to this,
I was a field agent in the FBI,
688
00:42:25,443 --> 00:42:27,977
and I worked in
the microscopic analysis unit.
689
00:42:27,979 --> 00:42:29,379
Thank you.
690
00:42:29,381 --> 00:42:31,648
And did you have occasion
to study the blood evidence
691
00:42:31,650 --> 00:42:34,116
collected from 544 castle drive?
692
00:42:34,118 --> 00:42:36,586
Yes, sir, I did.
693
00:42:36,588 --> 00:42:40,189
Tell us what you learned about
the blood types of the family?
694
00:42:40,191 --> 00:42:42,925
Well, each member
of the MacDonald family...
695
00:42:42,927 --> 00:42:45,061
Dr. MacDonald,
Mrs. MacDonald,
696
00:42:45,063 --> 00:42:46,863
Kimberly, and Kristen...
697
00:42:46,865 --> 00:42:48,597
All had different blood types.
698
00:42:48,599 --> 00:42:50,666
One moment,
Mr. Stombaugh.
699
00:42:50,668 --> 00:42:53,402
Let me just clarify
for the jury.
700
00:42:53,404 --> 00:42:56,005
Are you saying that,
against all odds,
701
00:42:56,007 --> 00:42:59,008
it turns out that the four
members of the MacDonald family
702
00:42:59,010 --> 00:43:01,810
each had a separate
and identifiable blood type?
703
00:43:01,812 --> 00:43:02,745
That's correct.
704
00:43:02,747 --> 00:43:04,213
It's statistically improbable,
705
00:43:04,215 --> 00:43:07,083
but it happens
to be the case here.
706
00:43:07,085 --> 00:43:09,819
Mr. Stombaugh.
707
00:43:09,821 --> 00:43:11,888
Can you tell me
why this is helpful
708
00:43:11,890 --> 00:43:13,556
to our understanding
of the events
709
00:43:13,558 --> 00:43:16,158
of February 17, 1970?
710
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:20,095
Well, now we can determine
to a good degree of certainty
711
00:43:20,097 --> 00:43:23,899
who bled where and when,
and in some cases, for how long.
712
00:43:23,901 --> 00:43:26,502
You've read
Dr. MacDonald's statements
713
00:43:26,504 --> 00:43:28,370
about what happened that night.
714
00:43:28,372 --> 00:43:31,708
In your opinion, does the story
the blood types tell
715
00:43:31,710 --> 00:43:34,644
corroborate
Dr. MacDonald's version?
716
00:43:34,646 --> 00:43:38,981
No, it does not.
717
00:43:38,983 --> 00:43:43,318
Where was the preponderance of
Colette MacDonald's blood found?
718
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,454
There in the master bedroom,
719
00:43:45,456 --> 00:43:49,959
and also a very large amount
in Kristen's room on the bed.
720
00:43:49,961 --> 00:43:51,060
Here and here?
721
00:43:51,062 --> 00:43:52,795
Yes.
722
00:43:52,797 --> 00:43:55,864
And where was the bulk
of Kristen's blood found?
723
00:43:55,866 --> 00:43:57,533
In her room there.
724
00:43:57,535 --> 00:43:58,668
And Kimberly's?
725
00:43:58,670 --> 00:44:01,671
On her bed, and also
a significant amount
726
00:44:01,673 --> 00:44:02,872
in the hallway
727
00:44:02,874 --> 00:44:05,341
just outside the master bedroom.
728
00:44:05,343 --> 00:44:07,877
And where was Dr. MacDonald's
blood found?
729
00:44:07,879 --> 00:44:10,947
There were two drops
in the bathroom sink
730
00:44:10,949 --> 00:44:13,215
and a few drops
on the kitchen floor.
731
00:44:13,217 --> 00:44:16,352
And how much of his blood
was found in the living room
732
00:44:16,354 --> 00:44:19,689
where He claims to have
fought off four assailants?
733
00:44:19,691 --> 00:44:22,358
None.
734
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,694
Mr. Stombaugh,
the "esquire" magazine
735
00:44:24,696 --> 00:44:28,698
that was entered into evidence,
was there any blood on it?
736
00:44:28,700 --> 00:44:31,967
Yes, there was, type ab and a.
737
00:44:31,969 --> 00:44:34,971
That's Kimberly's
and Mrs. MacDonald's.
738
00:44:34,973 --> 00:44:38,975
It was over the "qu"
on the cover.
739
00:44:38,977 --> 00:44:42,645
This magazine,
which contained an article
740
00:44:42,647 --> 00:44:45,114
about the then-recent
Manson family murders.
741
00:44:45,116 --> 00:44:47,050
Objection!
Sustained.
742
00:44:50,321 --> 00:44:52,722
Jeffrey MacDonald's story
is that
743
00:44:52,724 --> 00:44:56,058
when He came upon his wife
in the master bedroom,
744
00:44:56,060 --> 00:44:59,394
this knife was sticking
out of her chest.
745
00:44:59,396 --> 00:45:02,498
He says He removed it
before administering CPR.
746
00:45:02,500 --> 00:45:04,801
Does the blood evidence
you found support this?
747
00:45:04,803 --> 00:45:06,803
No.
748
00:45:06,805 --> 00:45:08,071
Why not?
749
00:45:08,073 --> 00:45:10,940
Well, of the 37 wounds
on Mrs. MacDonald's body,
750
00:45:10,942 --> 00:45:12,542
the evidence would indicate
that none of them
751
00:45:12,544 --> 00:45:13,676
were made by that knife.
752
00:45:13,678 --> 00:45:15,544
So, Mrs. MacDonald
was not stabbed
753
00:45:15,546 --> 00:45:16,345
with this knife?
754
00:45:16,347 --> 00:45:20,616
She was not.
755
00:45:20,618 --> 00:45:23,219
Mr. Stombaugh,
756
00:45:23,221 --> 00:45:25,821
can you tell me
what this is here?
757
00:45:25,823 --> 00:45:27,290
According to prior testimony,
758
00:45:27,292 --> 00:45:30,093
that is Dr. MacDonald's
footprint.
759
00:45:30,095 --> 00:45:32,561
And what blood type
was the footprint made in?
760
00:45:32,563 --> 00:45:35,297
Type a,
Mrs. MacDonald's.
761
00:45:35,299 --> 00:45:37,366
Let me repeat that.
762
00:45:37,368 --> 00:45:38,901
This is Jeffrey
MacDonald's footprint
763
00:45:38,903 --> 00:45:40,769
that was made
in his wife's blood?
764
00:45:40,771 --> 00:45:42,105
Yes.
765
00:45:42,107 --> 00:45:45,374
Tell us what you can also
conclude about this footprint.
766
00:45:45,376 --> 00:45:47,843
The impression of the print
on the floor
767
00:45:47,845 --> 00:45:49,846
indicates that when He made it,
768
00:45:49,848 --> 00:45:52,715
Dr. MacDonald was carrying
something heavy.
769
00:45:52,717 --> 00:45:55,117
Something heavy.
770
00:45:55,119 --> 00:45:57,386
Like, say, He was carrying
something that weighed,
771
00:45:57,388 --> 00:46:01,089
oh, over 100 pounds?
772
00:46:01,091 --> 00:46:02,592
Well, possibly.
773
00:46:02,594 --> 00:46:05,328
It's hard to know for sure,
but that sounds about right.
774
00:46:05,330 --> 00:46:07,396
Mr. Stombaugh,
775
00:46:07,398 --> 00:46:08,664
do you know approximately
776
00:46:08,666 --> 00:46:09,932
how much Colette
MacDonald weighed?
777
00:46:09,934 --> 00:46:11,334
Objection!
I do not.
778
00:46:11,336 --> 00:46:12,868
She weighed 135 pounds.
779
00:46:12,870 --> 00:46:14,070
Objection, your honor!
780
00:46:14,072 --> 00:46:15,072
Sustained.
781
00:46:39,230 --> 00:46:41,697
That was rough today.
782
00:46:45,370 --> 00:46:49,238
Umm, yeah, it was a pretty
783
00:46:49,240 --> 00:46:52,307
brutal rebuttal
of your whole story.
784
00:46:52,309 --> 00:46:55,510
I don't have a story.
It's what happened.
785
00:46:55,512 --> 00:46:56,578
It's the truth.
786
00:47:01,252 --> 00:47:02,384
Let me ask you.
787
00:47:02,386 --> 00:47:04,787
What did you think of Stombaugh?
788
00:47:04,789 --> 00:47:06,455
How did He come off to you?
789
00:47:11,395 --> 00:47:12,861
He seemed serious.
790
00:47:12,863 --> 00:47:17,133
He seemed like He knew
what He was talking about.
791
00:47:20,337 --> 00:47:22,337
I thought so, too.
792
00:47:24,542 --> 00:47:25,808
I was talking with Bernie.
793
00:47:25,810 --> 00:47:31,013
The crime scene evidence
is so compromised.
794
00:47:31,015 --> 00:47:33,082
He was probably making
an honest effort.
795
00:47:35,753 --> 00:47:38,487
Yeah, that's a point
worth considering.
796
00:47:50,367 --> 00:47:53,369
Most important thing is
that you're still with me.
797
00:47:53,371 --> 00:47:55,737
That you're still committed.
798
00:48:00,644 --> 00:48:02,778
I didn't kill Colette
and the girls.
799
00:48:06,250 --> 00:48:09,919
I couldn't have done that.
800
00:48:09,921 --> 00:48:12,421
I loved them.
801
00:48:17,061 --> 00:48:18,494
You believe me, right?
802
00:48:21,399 --> 00:48:23,799
I know you love them.
803
00:48:27,871 --> 00:48:31,340
I'm glad you're here, Joe.
804
00:48:31,342 --> 00:48:33,175
It's important to get
the truth out there.
805
00:48:35,213 --> 00:48:36,779
More important now than ever.
806
00:48:45,022 --> 00:48:48,691
But how long do you think
it's gonna take?
807
00:48:48,693 --> 00:48:50,826
Come on, we can
do better than that.
808
00:48:50,828 --> 00:48:53,496
Yeah, I'm sure we can.
809
00:48:53,498 --> 00:48:55,698
Hey!
Hold on a minute.
810
00:48:55,700 --> 00:48:56,832
We got a piece of good news.
811
00:48:56,834 --> 00:48:58,233
They found Helena Stoeckley
hiding out
812
00:48:58,235 --> 00:49:01,269
in some trailer park
in south Carolina.
813
00:49:03,374 --> 00:49:05,307
Federal marshals
are dragging her back here
814
00:49:05,309 --> 00:49:06,775
to Raleigh to testify.
815
00:49:06,777 --> 00:49:09,445
Wow.
816
00:49:09,447 --> 00:49:11,246
Well, it looks like you
got your book, writer.
817
00:49:11,248 --> 00:49:14,050
That's really good.
818
00:49:14,052 --> 00:49:15,918
That's great.
The sooner, the better.
819
00:49:58,162 --> 00:50:00,762
Ms. Stoeckley,
how are you?
820
00:50:00,764 --> 00:50:01,897
Fine.
821
00:50:01,899 --> 00:50:04,834
Thank you for being here.
822
00:50:04,836 --> 00:50:07,169
Ms. Stoeckley,
can you tell us
823
00:50:07,171 --> 00:50:12,808
where you were in the early
morning of February 17, 1970?
824
00:50:18,649 --> 00:50:20,716
No.
825
00:50:33,764 --> 00:50:37,933
Helena, do you
recognize this house?
826
00:50:41,072 --> 00:50:42,338
No.
827
00:50:42,340 --> 00:50:43,372
Look closely.
828
00:50:47,678 --> 00:50:50,012
Sorry, no.
829
00:50:53,884 --> 00:50:56,619
Does this help?
830
00:50:56,621 --> 00:51:00,689
Now do you remember?
831
00:51:00,691 --> 00:51:02,558
I can't help you.
832
00:51:05,095 --> 00:51:07,830
I understand all this
happened a long time ago.
833
00:51:15,039 --> 00:51:18,607
So I'm going to ask you
to take your time.
834
00:51:22,713 --> 00:51:26,047
The photo I'm going to show you
is a little rough,
835
00:51:26,049 --> 00:51:28,984
but I'm hoping it might jolt
your memory back to that night.
836
00:51:35,793 --> 00:51:38,828
That is Dr. MacDonald's flesh
and blood, Helena.
837
00:51:42,533 --> 00:51:47,669
What kind of father would
do that to his own daughter?
838
00:51:47,671 --> 00:51:50,139
I don't know.
839
00:51:55,212 --> 00:51:58,013
Look at his wife, Helena.
840
00:51:58,015 --> 00:52:01,016
Look at this picture.
841
00:52:01,018 --> 00:52:04,553
At this poor woman.
842
00:52:04,555 --> 00:52:10,693
A woman that man over there
fell in love with
843
00:52:10,695 --> 00:52:14,163
in the eighth grade.
844
00:52:14,165 --> 00:52:15,564
Dr. MacDonald
845
00:52:15,566 --> 00:52:18,868
is a loving, normal person.
846
00:52:21,639 --> 00:52:23,772
Have you ever been
inside this house?
847
00:52:26,643 --> 00:52:28,177
No.
848
00:52:28,179 --> 00:52:31,513
I wasn't.
I'm sorry.
849
00:52:31,515 --> 00:52:35,251
I'm not gonna sit here
and say something I didn't do.
850
00:52:37,588 --> 00:52:40,822
Besides, how do you know
He's not guilty?
851
00:52:52,470 --> 00:52:54,537
Look, Jeff...
852
00:52:54,539 --> 00:52:57,606
I know this is gonna be
painful for you,
853
00:52:57,608 --> 00:53:00,209
but tomorrow, when
you're on that stand,
854
00:53:00,211 --> 00:53:03,812
I really want the jury
to meet the victims.
855
00:53:03,814 --> 00:53:07,215
I want to put their pictures up
so they can see them...
856
00:53:07,217 --> 00:53:10,018
And for the jury
to see you seeing them.
857
00:53:10,020 --> 00:53:12,688
What good is that gonna do?
Jeff, listen to me.
858
00:53:12,690 --> 00:53:15,157
I want those jurors
to see people,
859
00:53:15,159 --> 00:53:19,428
not just a collection of fibers
and hairs and bloodstains.
860
00:53:19,430 --> 00:53:22,498
I want them to see your family,
the Macdonalds.
861
00:53:22,500 --> 00:53:24,380
Well, I don't think...
I shouldn't even be here!
862
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:35,177
Get all the anxiety and stress
out of your system tonight.
863
00:53:35,179 --> 00:53:40,048
Just be yourself in that
courtroom, and you'll be fine.
864
00:53:40,050 --> 00:53:41,784
Who else am I supposed to be?
865
00:54:23,828 --> 00:54:26,228
Jeff, what's going on?
866
00:54:26,230 --> 00:54:30,032
Tomorrow, I'm gonna get up
on that stand...
867
00:54:30,034 --> 00:54:33,569
Mm...
868
00:54:33,571 --> 00:54:37,038
And I hope to god
they see who I am.
869
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:38,707
All those people Lookin' at me.
870
00:54:42,646 --> 00:54:45,647
In a lot of ways, I've always...
871
00:54:45,649 --> 00:54:48,117
Been a performer.
872
00:54:50,788 --> 00:54:52,588
You can't afford not to be...
873
00:54:55,058 --> 00:54:58,526
With the whole world
always looking at you, you know?
874
00:54:58,528 --> 00:54:59,962
They're always looking.
875
00:55:06,870 --> 00:55:08,537
Are you gonna tell the truth?
876
00:55:11,942 --> 00:55:14,376
I told you I would.
877
00:55:18,215 --> 00:55:23,018
Good night, Joe McGinniss.
878
00:55:44,041 --> 00:55:46,108
Dr. MacDonald,
879
00:55:46,110 --> 00:55:49,011
can you tell us
what this picture depicts?
880
00:55:51,114 --> 00:55:54,450
It's Kris and Kim,
my little girls.
881
00:55:57,721 --> 00:56:03,192
Can you describe the clothing
that Kristen MacDonald
882
00:56:03,194 --> 00:56:05,928
is wearing?
883
00:56:05,930 --> 00:56:07,663
Pajamas.
884
00:56:07,665 --> 00:56:14,203
The same pajamas she was wearing
the night of February 17, 1970?
885
00:56:14,205 --> 00:56:16,739
Yes.
886
00:56:19,877 --> 00:56:22,544
Can you tell us what it reads
across the top of the pajamas,
887
00:56:22,546 --> 00:56:24,947
please?
888
00:56:29,553 --> 00:56:36,291
"Little angel."
889
00:56:42,633 --> 00:56:45,166
Dr. MacDonald,
I would like you
890
00:56:45,168 --> 00:56:50,104
to share a letter
dated August 26, 1969.
891
00:56:50,106 --> 00:56:52,975
From your wife to you.
892
00:56:52,977 --> 00:56:54,509
She was in Patchogue,
long island,
893
00:56:54,511 --> 00:56:58,580
writing to you
at Columbus, Georgia,
894
00:56:58,582 --> 00:57:00,682
when you were in the middle
of paratrooper training.
895
00:57:06,857 --> 00:57:10,192
"My darling Jeff.
896
00:57:16,132 --> 00:57:19,268
I wanted to thank you.
897
00:57:19,270 --> 00:57:23,405
You're the only one who can
make me happy and full of love.
898
00:57:23,407 --> 00:57:26,341
In case you're getting ready
to jump out of an airplane
899
00:57:26,343 --> 00:57:27,943
and need a little..."
900
00:57:27,945 --> 00:57:32,481
"And need a little material
for pleasant daydreams,
901
00:57:32,483 --> 00:57:34,383
Here are a few of my favorites.
902
00:57:37,821 --> 00:57:40,755
The night we came home
from Paul and Cathy's
903
00:57:40,757 --> 00:57:42,591
and had something
to eat in the city.
904
00:57:44,628 --> 00:57:47,129
New year's Eve this year.
905
00:57:51,101 --> 00:57:56,104
And the first time
you came to Skidmore
906
00:57:56,106 --> 00:57:58,540
and our picnic in the woods.
907
00:58:01,312 --> 00:58:02,777
Four kisses, Colette."
908
00:58:04,715 --> 00:58:05,847
Faker.
909
00:58:05,849 --> 00:58:08,584
Quiet in the court!
910
00:58:08,586 --> 00:58:10,985
Silence!
911
00:58:10,987 --> 00:58:13,455
Silence in the court!
912
00:58:21,531 --> 00:58:24,599
Is this the pajama top
you wore to bed that night?
913
00:58:24,601 --> 00:58:27,069
I guess.
If you say so.
914
00:58:32,810 --> 00:58:36,478
How did these holes
get in this pajama top?
915
00:58:39,015 --> 00:58:40,882
I assume when I was
being attacked
916
00:58:40,884 --> 00:58:44,019
and held it up to defend myself.
917
00:58:44,021 --> 00:58:47,021
And what would you say
if the jury should find
918
00:58:47,023 --> 00:58:49,624
that there were no blue fibers
from this pajama top
919
00:58:49,626 --> 00:58:53,428
in the living room
where you say you were attacked?
920
00:58:53,430 --> 00:58:55,497
I wouldn't know what
to say to that.
921
00:59:04,375 --> 00:59:08,977
Suppose the jury should find
the fibers from that top
922
00:59:08,979 --> 00:59:11,380
were found in Kimberly's room.
923
00:59:11,382 --> 00:59:13,715
Although, according
to your story,
924
00:59:13,717 --> 00:59:14,917
you say you had removed it
925
00:59:14,919 --> 00:59:17,519
by the time you went in there.
926
00:59:17,521 --> 00:59:19,588
Any explanation for that?
No.
927
00:59:19,590 --> 00:59:23,324
And fibers from that top
were found next
928
00:59:23,326 --> 00:59:26,328
to the headboard of your bed
under the word "pig."
929
00:59:26,330 --> 00:59:28,330
Why would that be?
I have no idea!
930
00:59:28,332 --> 00:59:31,466
Dr. MacDonald,
suppose the jury
931
00:59:31,468 --> 00:59:34,869
should find the evidence
that Colette MacDonald,
932
00:59:34,871 --> 00:59:41,810
four months pregnant,
was beaten, stabbed 37 times.
933
00:59:41,812 --> 00:59:45,147
That Kimberly was beaten,
stabbed nine times.
934
00:59:45,149 --> 00:59:48,684
And that 2-year-old Kristen
was stabbed 32 times.
935
00:59:48,686 --> 00:59:51,286
And suppose, sir,
the jury further finds
936
00:59:51,288 --> 00:59:53,889
that the injuries
that you sustained
937
00:59:53,891 --> 00:59:56,491
were not consistent
in degree of seriousness
938
00:59:56,493 --> 00:59:59,294
and that you are,
quite obviously, still alive?
939
00:59:59,296 --> 01:00:00,561
Any explanation for that?
940
01:00:00,563 --> 01:00:02,698
Objection.
Argumentative.
941
01:00:02,700 --> 01:00:05,167
Sustained.
942
01:00:07,571 --> 01:00:10,505
Your honor, that concludes
the government's cross.
943
01:00:17,647 --> 01:00:25,647
♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh ♪
944
01:00:30,794 --> 01:00:38,600
♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh ♪
945
01:00:43,340 --> 01:00:45,607
Ladies and gentlemen,
946
01:00:45,609 --> 01:00:51,279
suppose that one night,
raise your hand in anger,
947
01:00:51,281 --> 01:00:53,749
and before you can stop it,
948
01:00:53,751 --> 01:00:55,984
you do something
that is irretrievable.
949
01:00:58,155 --> 01:01:04,959
When you look at the autopsy
photos of those little children
950
01:01:04,961 --> 01:01:09,030
and think about what it would
take to cause someone
951
01:01:09,032 --> 01:01:10,899
to raise a knife
952
01:01:10,901 --> 01:01:16,771
and destroy them,
it can't be true.
953
01:01:16,773 --> 01:01:20,108
We suggest to you the following.
954
01:01:20,110 --> 01:01:24,112
That an argument about
what we do not know
955
01:01:24,114 --> 01:01:28,183
started between Jeff and Colette
in the master bedroom.
956
01:01:28,185 --> 01:01:32,721
The Macdonalds were a young,
vibrant family
957
01:01:32,723 --> 01:01:34,189
about to have another child.
958
01:01:34,191 --> 01:01:36,791
Why would Jeffrey
throw that all away?
959
01:01:36,793 --> 01:01:40,662
The evidence also
shows that Kimberly was struck,
960
01:01:40,664 --> 01:01:43,331
perhaps by accident.
961
01:01:43,333 --> 01:01:46,601
We contend that Dr. MacDonald
bludgeoned and stabbed
962
01:01:46,603 --> 01:01:49,871
Colette to death
in Kristen's room
963
01:01:49,873 --> 01:01:51,940
and then also killed Kristen.
964
01:01:51,942 --> 01:01:56,611
It doesn't make sense
because there was no motive.
965
01:01:56,613 --> 01:01:58,146
Ladies and
gentlemen, we can't tell you
966
01:01:58,148 --> 01:02:02,083
why Jeffrey MacDonald killed
his pregnant wife and children.
967
01:02:02,085 --> 01:02:05,087
But we have proven beyond
a reasonable doubt
968
01:02:05,089 --> 01:02:08,089
that He did kill them.
969
01:02:08,091 --> 01:02:11,893
And that is what is important.
970
01:02:11,895 --> 01:02:14,563
Why?
971
01:02:14,565 --> 01:02:16,731
It may never be known.
972
01:02:16,733 --> 01:02:21,970
Jeffrey MacDonald needs peace.
973
01:02:21,972 --> 01:02:26,107
And you, as a jury,
can Grant him that peace.
974
01:02:55,205 --> 01:02:57,271
They're back.
975
01:02:57,273 --> 01:03:00,942
They've reached a verdict.
976
01:03:19,229 --> 01:03:23,165
Mr. foreman.
977
01:03:23,167 --> 01:03:25,300
Has the jury reached a verdict?
978
01:03:25,302 --> 01:03:27,836
We have, your honor.
979
01:03:41,651 --> 01:03:43,451
Would the defendant please rise?
980
01:03:49,993 --> 01:03:53,595
Mr. foreman, how do you find?
981
01:03:53,597 --> 01:03:55,597
We, the jury,
find the defendant,
982
01:03:55,599 --> 01:03:59,067
Dr. Jeffrey MacDonald,
guilty on all counts.
983
01:04:05,341 --> 01:04:07,742
Quiet in the court.
984
01:04:11,615 --> 01:04:14,316
Does the defendant wish to make
a statement at this time?
985
01:04:17,754 --> 01:04:19,621
Sir, I am not guilty.
986
01:04:19,623 --> 01:04:22,490
I don't think the court
has heard all the evidence.
987
01:05:22,753 --> 01:05:26,554
Joe.
988
01:05:26,556 --> 01:05:28,223
I love you.
989
01:05:41,972 --> 01:05:45,306
We have proven
beyond a reasonable doubt
990
01:05:45,308 --> 01:05:46,308
that He did kill him.
991
01:05:48,178 --> 01:05:52,380
Why?
It may never be known.
992
01:06:19,876 --> 01:06:21,208
Thank you.
993
01:06:21,210 --> 01:06:24,746
It's incredibly generous
of you guys to have me.
994
01:06:24,748 --> 01:06:26,748
Thank you very much.
995
01:06:26,750 --> 01:06:28,750
If you're going to write,
996
01:06:28,752 --> 01:06:30,818
you need to know
what really happened.
997
01:06:30,820 --> 01:06:34,489
Not just what Jeff
wants you to think.
998
01:06:34,491 --> 01:06:38,559
You know, from the small amount
of time that I spent with Jeff,
999
01:06:38,561 --> 01:06:39,694
I felt like I knew him.
1000
01:06:39,696 --> 01:06:42,696
I thought I knew him inside out.
1001
01:06:42,698 --> 01:06:47,235
But I realized almost everything
Jeffrey MacDonald says
1002
01:06:47,237 --> 01:06:49,237
or does is a lie.
1003
01:06:51,375 --> 01:06:54,242
Here.
1004
01:06:54,244 --> 01:06:56,177
This is where Jeff
screwed himself.
1005
01:06:56,179 --> 01:06:58,179
The article 32 hearings.
1006
01:06:58,181 --> 01:07:00,315
It was a closed proceeding.
1007
01:07:00,317 --> 01:07:03,718
I wasn't allowed to stay
after I gave my testimony.
1008
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:06,321
But then I got a copy
of the transcript,
1009
01:07:06,323 --> 01:07:08,722
and I read every page.
1010
01:07:08,724 --> 01:07:13,461
And I found almost 100 things
that Jeff stated as a fact
1011
01:07:13,463 --> 01:07:18,199
that I personally knew
not to be true.
1012
01:07:18,201 --> 01:07:20,802
Jeff said they didn't
own an ice pick.
1013
01:07:20,804 --> 01:07:23,270
Well, I know for a fact
that they did.
1014
01:07:23,272 --> 01:07:25,273
I used it myself.
1015
01:07:25,275 --> 01:07:28,877
He said He didn't know
the neighbors to go to for help.
1016
01:07:28,879 --> 01:07:31,278
Well, Colette was going
to invite them
1017
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:33,081
for Thanksgiving dinner.
1018
01:07:33,083 --> 01:07:35,816
After the army dropped
the investigation,
1019
01:07:35,818 --> 01:07:39,420
He talked to reporters,
went on "the Dick Cavett show."
1020
01:07:39,422 --> 01:07:41,356
He told us He was going on it
1021
01:07:41,358 --> 01:07:46,161
to help get the word out
and catch the real killers.
1022
01:07:46,163 --> 01:07:50,965
But then on TV,
He just laughed and smiled.
1023
01:07:50,967 --> 01:07:52,600
He loved the attention.
1024
01:07:55,905 --> 01:07:59,107
Jeff told me stories about
how Colette loved his surprises,
1025
01:07:59,109 --> 01:08:01,308
like He bought her
an expensive stereo,
1026
01:08:01,310 --> 01:08:02,777
and she was very
excited about it.
1027
01:08:02,779 --> 01:08:06,314
That stereo caused a huge fight.
1028
01:08:06,316 --> 01:08:07,916
Jeff was always
spending their money
1029
01:08:07,918 --> 01:08:10,318
on expensive things He wanted,
1030
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:15,389
then giving them
to Colette as "gifts."
1031
01:08:15,391 --> 01:08:18,793
He also told me that Colette
was happy for him,
1032
01:08:18,795 --> 01:08:21,395
that He was getting to travel
to Russia for a boxing trip.
1033
01:08:21,397 --> 01:08:23,331
There was no trip to Russia.
1034
01:08:23,333 --> 01:08:25,866
He just told Colette that.
1035
01:08:25,868 --> 01:08:28,069
Jeff was planning
to go to New York
1036
01:08:28,071 --> 01:08:29,470
to see an ex-girlfriend.
1037
01:08:29,472 --> 01:08:32,273
He was a philanderer.
1038
01:08:32,275 --> 01:08:35,743
During the investigation,
the army's Cid agents found
1039
01:08:35,745 --> 01:08:38,213
that He had had
sexual relationships
1040
01:08:38,215 --> 01:08:41,549
with multiple women.
1041
01:08:41,551 --> 01:08:45,420
Did she ever tell you guys
that she wanted to leave him,
1042
01:08:45,422 --> 01:08:47,822
or she was going to leave him?
1043
01:08:47,824 --> 01:08:49,924
No.
1044
01:08:49,926 --> 01:08:52,293
But she was becoming
more independent.
1045
01:08:52,295 --> 01:08:53,894
Colette was just
beginning to think about
1046
01:08:53,896 --> 01:08:56,697
how she might be able
to have a life outside of Jeff.
1047
01:08:56,699 --> 01:08:58,766
Jeff hated that.
1048
01:08:58,768 --> 01:08:59,767
Right.
1049
01:08:59,769 --> 01:09:02,236
He hated looking
after the girls.
1050
01:09:02,238 --> 01:09:05,507
He hated that she was starting
to have opinions of her own.
1051
01:09:14,384 --> 01:09:19,454
Did Jeff really save Colette's
life after Kristen was born?
1052
01:09:19,456 --> 01:09:24,458
That's a dramatic
turn of phrase, but yes.
1053
01:09:24,460 --> 01:09:26,194
Colette had severe
internal bleeding
1054
01:09:26,196 --> 01:09:30,331
which her doctors missed
and Jeff caught.
1055
01:09:30,333 --> 01:09:32,199
I'm not saying that
Jeff MacDonald
1056
01:09:32,201 --> 01:09:35,870
isn't a competent physician.
1057
01:09:35,872 --> 01:09:39,473
I'm saying He's a liar
1058
01:09:39,475 --> 01:09:41,543
and that He murdered
my daughter.
1059
01:09:45,282 --> 01:09:47,849
Why'd He do it?
1060
01:09:51,888 --> 01:09:55,389
I don't know.
1061
01:10:12,375 --> 01:10:13,841
Hey.
1062
01:10:13,843 --> 01:10:17,779
You look okay.
1063
01:10:17,781 --> 01:10:20,982
Yeah, I'm okay.
1064
01:10:20,984 --> 01:10:23,117
It's until I start remembering
that I lost my family,
1065
01:10:23,119 --> 01:10:27,455
and somehow I ended up in here.
1066
01:10:27,457 --> 01:10:28,856
This is an insult, you know.
1067
01:10:28,858 --> 01:10:32,794
It's an insult to the memory
of my two little girls.
1068
01:10:32,796 --> 01:10:35,096
It's an insult to Colette.
1069
01:10:37,133 --> 01:10:41,336
Which is why our book
is so important now.
1070
01:10:41,338 --> 01:10:43,938
I need to be able to change
people's minds.
1071
01:10:47,076 --> 01:10:48,342
Listen.
1072
01:10:48,344 --> 01:10:50,478
I have an idea.
1073
01:10:50,480 --> 01:10:52,946
I want to give you some
cassette tapes and recorder.
1074
01:10:52,948 --> 01:10:54,349
I want to send you
some questions,
1075
01:10:54,351 --> 01:10:56,217
and you record your answers,
and you mail 'em back.
1076
01:10:56,219 --> 01:10:58,553
That way, you can talk
all you want.
1077
01:10:58,555 --> 01:11:00,621
That's fantastic, yes,
and I've been thinking.
1078
01:11:00,623 --> 01:11:03,424
Everything in court was so...
It was so one-sided,
1079
01:11:03,426 --> 01:11:05,492
and I had all these records,
these personal documents
1080
01:11:05,494 --> 01:11:08,295
that if you take a look
at everything, read everything,
1081
01:11:08,297 --> 01:11:11,632
it'll prove that what
I've been saying is the truth.
1082
01:11:11,634 --> 01:11:12,767
All that stuff's at my condo.
1083
01:11:12,769 --> 01:11:13,968
I can get Bernie
to give you the keys.
1084
01:11:13,970 --> 01:11:16,104
That's perfect.
1085
01:11:16,106 --> 01:11:18,106
I want to see
everything you got.
1086
01:11:55,878 --> 01:11:58,612
Dr. Sadoff,
this is Joe McGinniss.
1087
01:11:58,614 --> 01:12:01,082
I'm calling regarding
your sessions
1088
01:12:01,084 --> 01:12:02,950
with Dr. Jeffrey MacDonald.
1089
01:12:02,952 --> 01:12:05,019
Yeah, Jeff through his
lawyers said He would like it
1090
01:12:05,021 --> 01:12:06,687
if I spoke with you.
1091
01:12:06,689 --> 01:12:08,289
But I won't be able
to say anything
1092
01:12:08,291 --> 01:12:12,026
that breaches doctor/patient
confidentiality, unfortunately.
1093
01:12:12,028 --> 01:12:15,430
You're can only get specifics
about our sessions from Jeff.
1094
01:12:15,432 --> 01:12:16,897
I mean, I understand that.
1095
01:12:16,899 --> 01:12:19,367
I was hoping that I could ask
you a few other questions.
1096
01:12:19,369 --> 01:12:21,302
Let me stop you there.
1097
01:12:21,304 --> 01:12:23,104
What I would like
to say to you is that
1098
01:12:23,106 --> 01:12:24,705
if you want
a better understanding
1099
01:12:24,707 --> 01:12:26,107
of Jeffrey MacDonald,
1100
01:12:26,109 --> 01:12:28,976
there's a book that I
strongly recommend you read.
1101
01:12:28,978 --> 01:12:30,645
It's by the last name Cleckley.
1102
01:12:30,647 --> 01:12:34,582
The name is
"the mask of sanity."
1103
01:12:34,584 --> 01:12:38,386
I think you'll find that very,
very informative.
1104
01:12:42,659 --> 01:12:45,926
This says that someone with
a psychopathic personality
1105
01:12:45,928 --> 01:12:47,395
first seems totally normal,
1106
01:12:47,397 --> 01:12:50,832
but the more time you spend with
them, there's nothing in there.
1107
01:12:50,834 --> 01:12:53,867
It's like learned responses.
1108
01:12:53,869 --> 01:12:56,604
There's not a real
human being inside.
1109
01:12:56,606 --> 01:13:01,476
Does that describe
Jeffrey MacDonald?
1110
01:13:56,332 --> 01:13:58,800
Eskatrol.
1111
01:14:02,071 --> 01:14:04,538
An amphetamine.
1112
01:14:10,947 --> 01:14:15,817
I have to call you right back.
1113
01:14:15,819 --> 01:14:17,551
All right, we will, thanks.
1114
01:14:17,553 --> 01:14:18,819
What is this?
1115
01:14:18,821 --> 01:14:20,621
That is the why.
1116
01:14:20,623 --> 01:14:22,423
That is my angle.
1117
01:14:22,425 --> 01:14:24,892
That is my bestseller.
1118
01:14:24,894 --> 01:14:26,294
What are you talking about?
1119
01:14:26,296 --> 01:14:27,628
What am I talking about?
1120
01:14:27,630 --> 01:14:29,297
I'm talking about the
prosecution found him guilty
1121
01:14:29,299 --> 01:14:32,099
because they were able
to prove how He did it.
1122
01:14:32,101 --> 01:14:33,701
Right?
Not why.
1123
01:14:33,703 --> 01:14:35,503
They've been trying
to figure out the why.
1124
01:14:35,505 --> 01:14:38,372
And this, I believe, is the why.
1125
01:14:38,374 --> 01:14:39,774
And you figured out the why.
1126
01:14:39,776 --> 01:14:40,841
Mm-hmm.
1127
01:14:40,843 --> 01:14:43,110
Even though an entire team
of prosecutors
1128
01:14:43,112 --> 01:14:45,246
wasn't able to do that.
1129
01:14:45,248 --> 01:14:46,647
How?
1130
01:14:46,649 --> 01:14:48,449
Because Jeffrey MacDonald
granted me access to his condo,
1131
01:14:48,451 --> 01:14:50,451
and I read every
single document He had,
1132
01:14:50,453 --> 01:14:52,720
and there was a ton
of information in there
1133
01:14:52,722 --> 01:14:54,455
that never made it to trial.
1134
01:14:54,457 --> 01:14:56,324
Like what?
Like what?
1135
01:14:56,326 --> 01:14:57,457
Some of my favorites.
1136
01:14:57,459 --> 01:14:59,260
I read all the psych
evaluations.
1137
01:14:59,262 --> 01:15:00,795
Okay?
Here's some highlights.
1138
01:15:00,797 --> 01:15:02,463
He had a lack of conscience.
1139
01:15:02,465 --> 01:15:04,131
He had no sense of guilt.
1140
01:15:04,133 --> 01:15:06,066
He was susceptible
to violent outbursts
1141
01:15:06,068 --> 01:15:08,469
when He thought
his authority was challenged,
1142
01:15:08,471 --> 01:15:12,673
particularly by someone who is
not his superior, like Colette.
1143
01:15:12,675 --> 01:15:15,943
One shrink even called him
a psychopath in his evaluation.
1144
01:15:15,945 --> 01:15:18,011
And so why were
these evaluations
1145
01:15:18,013 --> 01:15:19,680
not introduced at his trial?
1146
01:15:19,682 --> 01:15:21,682
Because judge Dupree
wouldn't allow any of it in.
1147
01:15:21,684 --> 01:15:23,417
He didn't want a war of shrinks.
1148
01:15:23,419 --> 01:15:25,553
And I think our good doctor
1149
01:15:25,555 --> 01:15:29,023
was taking a massive
amount of speed.
1150
01:15:29,025 --> 01:15:31,425
When Jeff MacDonald finds out
that He is the chief suspect,
1151
01:15:31,427 --> 01:15:33,761
He is advised to write
a detailed account
1152
01:15:33,763 --> 01:15:35,563
of the events
of the night of the murder.
1153
01:15:35,565 --> 01:15:39,967
And the first thing He mentions
is a drug called Eskatrol.
1154
01:15:39,969 --> 01:15:41,636
The diet pill.
Yep, speed.
1155
01:15:41,638 --> 01:15:44,171
He said He was taking three
to five pills to cut weight
1156
01:15:44,173 --> 01:15:46,040
for some boxing match in Russia
1157
01:15:46,042 --> 01:15:48,976
which, by the way,
was a complete lie.
1158
01:15:48,978 --> 01:15:50,377
Now, let me ask you a question.
1159
01:15:50,379 --> 01:15:54,982
Why do you think He wrote
"Eskatrol" on his first account?
1160
01:15:54,984 --> 01:15:59,654
He is a doctor, and He knew
they'd do a tox screen on him
1161
01:15:59,656 --> 01:16:00,788
when He was in the hospital.
1162
01:16:00,790 --> 01:16:02,256
And they did.
And guess what?
1163
01:16:02,258 --> 01:16:04,458
Nothing showed up
because in 1970,
1164
01:16:04,460 --> 01:16:06,527
it wasn't considered
a dangerous drug.
1165
01:16:06,529 --> 01:16:08,062
But Eskatrol's especially bad.
1166
01:16:08,064 --> 01:16:11,666
In large doses,
carries side effects known as
1167
01:16:11,668 --> 01:16:13,134
marked insomnia,
1168
01:16:13,136 --> 01:16:17,004
tenseness, irritability,
hyperactivity, panic states,
1169
01:16:17,006 --> 01:16:21,742
and the most severe...
Psychosis.
1170
01:16:21,744 --> 01:16:24,679
Dr. Jeffrey MacDonald,
green beret,
1171
01:16:24,681 --> 01:16:28,549
Ivy league, family man,
pillar of his community,
1172
01:16:28,551 --> 01:16:32,820
and potential psychopath
I think had a psychotic break.
1173
01:16:32,822 --> 01:16:35,889
You gotta back up a little bit
and take me step by step.
1174
01:16:35,891 --> 01:16:37,625
Just start at the beginning.
1175
01:16:39,562 --> 01:16:43,163
Okay.
1176
01:16:43,165 --> 01:16:44,965
On the night of the murders,
Jeffrey MacDonald
1177
01:16:44,967 --> 01:16:47,368
had just worked a 24-hour shift
at the E.R.
1178
01:16:47,370 --> 01:16:49,236
Hopped up on amphetamines.
1179
01:16:49,238 --> 01:16:52,506
Colette was away at night class,
and He was left with the girls.
1180
01:16:52,508 --> 01:16:54,641
When she got home,
they got into a fight
1181
01:16:54,643 --> 01:16:56,577
for reasons we don't know.
1182
01:16:56,579 --> 01:16:59,647
Maybe it's because
Kimberly wet to bed.
1183
01:16:59,649 --> 01:17:01,248
She's five.
That's perfectly normal!
1184
01:17:01,250 --> 01:17:05,052
Don't ever tell me what's normal
and what's not normal.
1185
01:17:05,054 --> 01:17:06,520
I'm a doctor.
1186
01:17:06,522 --> 01:17:07,521
Colette, do you understand?
1187
01:17:07,523 --> 01:17:08,722
Do you understand?
1188
01:17:08,724 --> 01:17:09,923
Do you understand?
1189
01:17:09,925 --> 01:17:10,925
I am in charge!
1190
01:17:10,927 --> 01:17:12,526
You don't tell me anything!
1191
01:17:12,528 --> 01:17:14,862
Please, Jeffrey!
1192
01:17:14,864 --> 01:17:16,464
You're pathetic!
1193
01:17:19,735 --> 01:17:22,436
Daddy!
Daddy!
1194
01:17:27,276 --> 01:17:29,276
Get out of this house, Jeffrey!
1195
01:17:32,682 --> 01:17:34,748
Daddy, daddy!
Daddy, stop it!
1196
01:17:34,750 --> 01:17:39,820
No!
1197
01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:46,627
Ahh!
1198
01:18:22,531 --> 01:18:26,067
Jeff had lost control,
and now He had to regain it.
1199
01:18:57,900 --> 01:19:00,167
Mama?
1200
01:19:09,178 --> 01:19:11,178
Dada?
1201
01:19:49,151 --> 01:19:52,552
Maybe Colette tried
to save her youngest child.
1202
01:19:54,089 --> 01:19:57,024
But all of them met
with the same fate.
1203
01:20:01,163 --> 01:20:05,232
Jeff, don't!
1204
01:20:11,907 --> 01:20:14,909
Jeff had to come up with a story
for what had happened.
1205
01:20:18,914 --> 01:20:20,514
He had read in
the "esquire" magazine
1206
01:20:20,516 --> 01:20:22,382
about the Manson murders.
1207
01:20:22,384 --> 01:20:25,920
That would be his story.
1208
01:20:25,922 --> 01:20:28,055
That would explain
what happened.
1209
01:20:31,994 --> 01:20:33,794
To cover up what He had done.
1210
01:20:52,281 --> 01:20:55,015
But there had to be
something else.
1211
01:20:55,017 --> 01:20:59,019
To sell his story, the murders
had to be barbaric.
1212
01:20:59,021 --> 01:21:01,288
Beyond anything imaginable.
1213
01:22:25,708 --> 01:22:28,375
The one final piece
in the puzzle
1214
01:22:28,377 --> 01:22:32,245
was that He had to look
like a victim, too.
1215
01:22:50,933 --> 01:22:56,537
Aah!
1216
01:22:59,275 --> 01:23:02,876
I need an ambulance
to 544 castle drive.
1217
01:23:02,878 --> 01:23:04,678
Woman;
Is that on or off coast?
1218
01:23:46,722 --> 01:23:51,592
If Kristen was asleep
and hadn't seen anything,
1219
01:23:51,594 --> 01:23:53,360
why did He kill her, too?
1220
01:23:57,533 --> 01:24:00,934
Murtagh had a theory about that.
1221
01:24:00,936 --> 01:24:03,537
He thought that Jeff MacDonald
decided to kill Kristen
1222
01:24:03,539 --> 01:24:06,473
because He had no reason to.
1223
01:24:06,475 --> 01:24:10,010
She hadn't seen anything,
so He went all-in.
1224
01:24:10,012 --> 01:24:14,681
It was the one thing no jury
would believe a father could do.
1225
01:24:22,425 --> 01:24:24,825
Does MacDonald know
you're going to write that?
1226
01:24:27,830 --> 01:24:30,363
He doesn't need to.
1227
01:25:00,262 --> 01:25:02,195
Reporter Joe
McGinniss spent three years
1228
01:25:02,197 --> 01:25:04,063
investigating Jeffrey MacDonald,
1229
01:25:04,065 --> 01:25:06,200
who granted him total
access to his family,
1230
01:25:06,202 --> 01:25:08,135
his friends, all his records,
1231
01:25:08,137 --> 01:25:11,071
so that McGinniss might write
the definitive book about him.
1232
01:25:11,073 --> 01:25:12,739
It is called "fatal vision."
1233
01:25:15,678 --> 01:25:20,214
All I'm saying that on the basis
of attending the trial every day
1234
01:25:20,216 --> 01:25:23,816
and spending three years of
full-time research afterwards,
1235
01:25:23,818 --> 01:25:26,086
that there's no question
that this gentle, caring,
1236
01:25:26,088 --> 01:25:29,756
giving man also beat and stabbed
1237
01:25:29,758 --> 01:25:31,625
to death his pregnant wife
1238
01:25:31,627 --> 01:25:33,827
and his two young daughters.
1239
01:25:33,829 --> 01:25:36,763
I love my wife
and my children very much.
1240
01:25:36,765 --> 01:25:39,499
I never physically assaulted
anyone in my life,
1241
01:25:39,501 --> 01:25:43,370
and certainly not my wife
and my two children.
1242
01:25:43,372 --> 01:25:48,842
♪ Mm, mm ♪
1243
01:25:48,844 --> 01:25:56,583
♪ Mm, mm, mm, mm ♪
1244
01:25:56,585 --> 01:26:04,585
♪ Mm mm ♪
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