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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:32,074 --> 00:00:33,868 I am now utterly convinced 2 00:00:33,951 --> 00:00:36,245 that on Judgment Day, 3 00:00:36,328 --> 00:00:38,831 the Lord Jesus will ask one question and only one question. 4 00:00:43,461 --> 00:00:45,713 Did you believe that I loved you? 5 00:03:41,388 --> 00:03:42,389 Try it again. 6 00:03:46,936 --> 00:03:48,938 J Everybody each and all 7 00:03:49,021 --> 00:03:52,858 We're going to die eventually 8 00:03:55,319 --> 00:03:59,114 0 It's no more or less our fault' .0 9 00:03:59,198 --> 00:04:02,284 J� As it is our destiny J� 10 00:04:18,592 --> 00:04:22,304 J� When my body lies in the ruins J� 11 00:04:22,388 --> 00:04:26,433 J3 Of the lies that nearly ruined me J3 12 00:04:42,116 --> 00:04:44,201 We are here with Rich Mullins, 13 00:04:44,285 --> 00:04:47,121 one of contemporary Christian music's biggest stars. 14 00:04:47,204 --> 00:04:48,872 Rich, welcome to the show. 15 00:04:48,956 --> 00:04:51,333 Rich, we know of your various hits. 16 00:04:51,417 --> 00:04:54,336 Awesome God, Sing Your Praise of the Lord -and- Elijah, among others. 17 00:04:54,420 --> 00:04:56,797 -You've been at the top of the COM charts,- 18 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,174 had a number of Dove Award nominations, 19 00:04:59,258 --> 00:05:00,634 but I want to talk a little bit 20 00:05:00,718 --> 00:05:02,636 about the man behind the music 21 00:05:02,678 --> 00:05:04,555 so if you don't mind will you tell us a little bit 22 00:05:04,638 --> 00:05:07,725 about how you came to faith in Christ? 23 00:05:07,808 --> 00:05:09,059 Well, Randy, I'm not a Christian 24 00:05:09,143 --> 00:05:10,894 because of a song I heard 25 00:05:10,978 --> 00:05:12,730 or a book I read, as much as I like to read. 26 00:05:12,813 --> 00:05:16,066 Uh, I came to experience the realness of Christ 27 00:05:16,150 --> 00:05:18,569 through the people in his church. 28 00:05:18,652 --> 00:05:20,738 I'm a Christian, not because 29 00:05:20,821 --> 00:05:23,907 somebody explained the nuts and bolts of Christianity to me but 30 00:05:23,991 --> 00:05:26,702 because people were willing to be the nuts and bolts. 31 00:05:34,918 --> 00:05:36,712 Come on, let's go! 32 00:05:49,933 --> 00:05:51,643 I guess you could say my story began 33 00:05:51,727 --> 00:05:53,562 in a small town in Indiana. 34 00:05:57,524 --> 00:05:59,777 My dad was a farmer 35 00:05:59,860 --> 00:06:03,447 and easily, easily the hardest working man that I know. 36 00:06:03,530 --> 00:06:05,657 Like most boys, I grew up 37 00:06:05,741 --> 00:06:08,619 wanting to be exactly like him, exactly like my dad. 38 00:06:08,702 --> 00:06:11,789 But I discovered at a pretty early age, 39 00:06:11,872 --> 00:06:14,041 time and time again that 40 00:06:14,124 --> 00:06:16,085 I wasn't really cut out to be a farmer. 41 00:06:28,389 --> 00:06:29,723 Hold the light. 42 00:06:29,765 --> 00:06:31,266 What's wrong with it, Dad? 43 00:06:31,350 --> 00:06:33,060 Damn light, son! 44 00:06:40,692 --> 00:06:43,737 It's the pistons. 45 00:06:43,779 --> 00:06:45,155 What did you fill it with? 46 00:06:45,239 --> 00:06:47,825 Gasoline. Like you said. 47 00:06:47,908 --> 00:06:49,576 Like I said? 48 00:06:49,660 --> 00:06:51,286 Not like I said, 'cause I didn't say 49 00:06:51,370 --> 00:06:53,956 I didn't say nothing about gasoline. 50 00:06:54,039 --> 00:06:57,334 Of all the damn fool things. 51 00:06:57,418 --> 00:06:58,585 Lean over here, boy. Come here. 52 00:06:58,627 --> 00:07:01,797 What's that say? 53 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:03,340 Speak up, Wayne! What's it say? 54 00:07:03,424 --> 00:07:04,591 -Diesel.- 55 00:07:04,675 --> 00:07:09,012 That's right. Diesel. 56 00:07:09,096 --> 00:07:12,850 Because you can't put gasoline in the tractor, son. 57 00:07:12,933 --> 00:07:13,934 I'm sorry, Dad. 58 00:07:15,602 --> 00:07:17,354 Well, sorry isn't going to fix this, boy. 59 00:07:17,438 --> 00:07:18,772 Damn! 60 00:07:35,789 --> 00:07:39,126 My mom and dad raised five of us kids 61 00:07:39,168 --> 00:07:43,797 and, you know, most of the time money was pretty scarce. 62 00:07:43,839 --> 00:07:46,216 And when I was little, my baby brother passed a way. 63 00:07:46,300 --> 00:07:49,470 And that was often hard for them. 64 00:07:49,511 --> 00:07:51,763 Even as a boy, I wanted to help. 65 00:07:56,059 --> 00:07:59,730 But I couldn't. 66 00:07:59,813 --> 00:08:01,857 Why didn't you tell me you got the tractor 67 00:08:01,940 --> 00:08:05,235 stuck in the field this morning? 68 00:08:05,319 --> 00:08:06,528 Speak up, Do 69 00:08:06,612 --> 00:08:08,697 I thought you'd be mad. 70 00:08:08,780 --> 00:08:12,993 I just don't understand why everything you touch ends up busted. 71 00:08:42,856 --> 00:08:45,234 I wish you'd be more gentle with him. 72 00:08:45,317 --> 00:08:49,363 More gentle? 73 00:08:49,446 --> 00:08:51,281 That's the last thing to be. 74 00:08:51,365 --> 00:08:53,534 He needs to toughen up, that's what. 75 00:08:53,617 --> 00:08:55,702 He's got his damn head in the clouds. 76 00:08:55,744 --> 00:08:57,871 He needs to know you love him. 77 00:08:57,955 --> 00:09:00,207 That boy needs to stay away from the tractor. 78 00:09:00,249 --> 00:09:03,043 Last week, it was the engine. 79 00:09:03,126 --> 00:09:04,545 Today he got not one, 80 00:09:04,628 --> 00:09:06,964 but four wheels stuck in holes. 81 00:09:07,047 --> 00:09:09,716 John, he's just trying-- Four, Neva. 82 00:09:09,758 --> 00:09:13,387 Four. The repairs cost 300 dollars, 83 00:09:13,470 --> 00:09:15,639 not to mention the lost time on the farm. 84 00:09:15,722 --> 00:09:18,308 Ain't going to be worried aboutlove 85 00:09:18,392 --> 00:09:20,269 if he is going hungry, will he? 86 00:09:29,820 --> 00:09:32,656 He's our oldest boy, Neva. 87 00:09:32,739 --> 00:09:34,575 If he doesn't learn, 88 00:09:34,658 --> 00:09:38,328 then how is he going to take over the farm one day? 89 00:09:38,412 --> 00:09:43,166 Maybe he's not meant for the farm. 90 00:09:45,252 --> 00:09:46,878 You're a good father. 91 00:09:49,923 --> 00:09:51,258 Hm. 92 00:09:59,808 --> 00:10:01,018 She got it. 93 00:10:03,103 --> 00:10:04,605 She did, didn't she? 94 00:10:11,278 --> 00:10:14,281 Dad, that's it. 95 00:10:14,323 --> 00:10:16,533 What are you doing, boy? 96 00:10:16,617 --> 00:10:18,285 John! 97 00:10:20,162 --> 00:10:21,872 Didn't you like it, Mom? 98 00:10:21,955 --> 00:10:24,750 Yes. Yes, it's wonderful. 99 00:10:29,046 --> 00:10:30,047 John-- 100 00:10:37,929 --> 00:10:39,723 As I got older, music seemed to be 101 00:10:39,806 --> 00:10:41,391 the only thing that made sense to me. 102 00:10:41,475 --> 00:10:43,393 I was pretty good at it 103 00:10:43,477 --> 00:10:46,229 and there was something about sitting at a piano 104 00:10:46,313 --> 00:10:50,317 that just made me feel like I was home. 105 00:10:57,157 --> 00:10:59,493 How do you think that God views you? 106 00:10:59,576 --> 00:11:02,162 Have you asked yourself this? 107 00:11:02,204 --> 00:11:03,747 You should, 108 00:11:03,830 --> 00:11:05,874 because your perception of God 109 00:11:05,957 --> 00:11:10,087 will have an effect on every aspect of your life. 110 00:11:10,170 --> 00:11:12,005 In the Book of Romans, 111 00:11:12,047 --> 00:11:15,842 Paul quoting Isaiah speaks to the truth that 112 00:11:15,926 --> 00:11:19,680 no one is righteous, how we are all sinners. 113 00:11:19,763 --> 00:11:22,724 But God commanded his love toward us. 114 00:11:24,935 --> 00:11:28,230 That was wonderful, Richard. Thank you, Mrs. Kellner. 115 00:11:28,313 --> 00:11:31,108 Now why don't you play it how it was written? 116 00:11:32,359 --> 00:11:33,527 Time to go, son. 117 00:11:33,610 --> 00:11:35,612 He is my best student. 118 00:11:35,696 --> 00:11:37,698 Well, at least there's one thing he's good at. 119 00:11:37,781 --> 00:11:38,949 It sure isn't farming. 120 00:11:39,032 --> 00:11:40,492 Let's get, boy. 121 00:11:45,205 --> 00:11:46,873 Growing up, people would always tell me 122 00:11:46,915 --> 00:11:48,667 that God loved me 123 00:11:48,750 --> 00:11:50,293 but I had a hard time believing that. 124 00:11:50,377 --> 00:11:54,089 I wondered if God even liked me. 125 00:11:54,172 --> 00:11:58,927 Maybe it's because people also told me that my dad loved me. 126 00:11:59,010 --> 00:12:02,264 I mean, my dad and I didn't connect' or we couldn't connect'. 127 00:12:02,347 --> 00:12:04,433 The things he knew and understood 128 00:12:04,516 --> 00:12:08,103 weren '2' things I knew and understood and vice versa. 129 00:12:08,186 --> 00:12:12,149 They say that time heals all wounds 130 00:12:12,232 --> 00:12:14,276 but honestly in our case it just made things worse. 131 00:12:21,908 --> 00:12:23,326 I hate being different. 132 00:12:25,746 --> 00:12:27,748 I think God knows what he's doing, Wayne. 133 00:12:27,789 --> 00:12:30,834 Dad hates it, too. 134 00:12:30,917 --> 00:12:33,420 Your father loves you. 135 00:12:33,503 --> 00:12:35,505 No, he loves Dave and Lloyd. 136 00:12:35,589 --> 00:12:37,591 He understands them. 137 00:12:37,674 --> 00:12:41,344 He loves all of you. 138 00:12:41,428 --> 00:12:43,930 Sometimes I just wish I was more like them. 139 00:12:47,434 --> 00:12:48,977 I don't belong here. 140 00:12:52,981 --> 00:12:54,649 God's got big plans for you. 141 00:12:54,733 --> 00:12:55,984 I know it. 142 00:12:58,111 --> 00:13:00,781 You are going to do great things one day. 143 00:13:15,796 --> 00:13:17,464 After high school, 144 00:13:17,547 --> 00:13:19,883 I wasn't sure what I was going to do. 145 00:13:19,966 --> 00:13:21,843 Home had became a place 146 00:13:21,927 --> 00:13:25,472 where you had to learn the language of silence. 147 00:13:25,514 --> 00:13:28,809 My dad and I grew apart. 148 00:13:28,850 --> 00:13:35,816 Uh, you know, he grew inward and I grew bitter. 149 00:13:35,899 --> 00:13:39,569 At' that time, my rebellion was in full swing. 150 00:13:39,653 --> 00:13:42,155 Uh, let's just say that surrender 151 00:13:42,197 --> 00:13:45,242 doesn't exactly come naturally to me. 152 00:13:45,325 --> 00:13:47,327 But I quickly learned that God 153 00:13:47,410 --> 00:13:49,663 can speak to us in some pretty unexpected ways. 154 00:13:53,917 --> 00:13:57,921 How do you respond to these accusations from your father? 155 00:13:58,004 --> 00:14:02,884 Do you dare defy the ordinances of Holy Mother Church ? 156 00:14:02,968 --> 00:14:06,054 How can you stand there in defiance of your father? 157 00:14:06,137 --> 00:14:08,181 You're bestowed with riches beyond your worth 158 00:14:08,223 --> 00:14:10,016 and now you rebuke their value? 159 00:14:10,058 --> 00:14:14,145 By what authority do you do such things? 160 00:14:15,814 --> 00:14:19,442 I want to live a life of freedom. 161 00:14:19,526 --> 00:14:21,194 I want to be as free 162 00:14:21,236 --> 00:14:23,905 as the animals that roam this earth, 163 00:14:23,989 --> 00:14:27,033 as free as the moon in the night sky. 164 00:14:27,117 --> 00:14:30,745 These earthly possessions, 165 00:14:30,829 --> 00:14:34,249 this noble stature, 166 00:14:34,332 --> 00:14:39,212 the adoration that our society craves is no use to me. 167 00:14:39,296 --> 00:14:41,256 But you're my son. 168 00:14:41,339 --> 00:14:43,633 I'm no longer your son. 169 00:14:43,717 --> 00:14:46,261 Saint Francis was wild. I mean, 170 00:14:46,344 --> 00:14:48,722 he fell madly in love with Jesus. 171 00:14:48,763 --> 00:14:51,725 As a result of that, he gave up everything he had. 172 00:14:51,808 --> 00:14:53,894 Why are you doing this? 173 00:14:53,977 --> 00:14:56,897 God calls to every man. 174 00:14:56,938 --> 00:15:00,609 But not every man responds. 175 00:15:00,692 --> 00:15:02,277 I connected to the story of Saint Francis 176 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:04,321 in a lot of ways. 177 00:15:04,404 --> 00:15:07,908 You know, he just had this radical trust in Christ. 178 00:15:07,991 --> 00:15:10,994 It was a trust that I didn't have. 179 00:15:11,077 --> 00:15:13,330 But I wanted it. 180 00:15:13,413 --> 00:15:16,750 I knew that deep down if I wanted to grow that kind of faith, 181 00:15:16,791 --> 00:15:20,587 it wasn't going to happen by staying at home. 182 00:15:20,629 --> 00:15:21,671 So I left. 183 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:53,828 You know, it's interesting. 184 00:15:53,912 --> 00:15:55,956 I had reached a point in my life 185 00:15:56,039 --> 00:15:57,874 where I decided to get serious about my faith 186 00:15:57,958 --> 00:16:01,252 before I had no faith to get serious about. 187 00:16:01,336 --> 00:16:03,088 Not that going to Bible College 188 00:16:03,171 --> 00:16:04,339 is particularly the place to get serious 189 00:16:04,422 --> 00:16:06,091 about your faith 190 00:16:06,174 --> 00:16:08,218 but nevertheless, that's where I went. 191 00:16:22,315 --> 00:16:24,818 Hey! What are you doing with my stuff? 192 00:16:24,859 --> 00:16:26,528 Oh, I thought this would be okay. 193 00:16:26,611 --> 00:16:28,405 I prefer to sleep with my-- You thought... 194 00:16:28,488 --> 00:16:30,740 this would be okay? 195 00:16:30,824 --> 00:16:32,409 Let me ask you a question. 196 00:16:32,492 --> 00:16:34,035 You ever stare danger straight in the eye 197 00:16:34,119 --> 00:16:37,330 and live to tell about it? 198 00:16:37,372 --> 00:16:38,415 Name's Sam. 199 00:16:39,666 --> 00:16:41,209 Just joking, man. 200 00:16:41,292 --> 00:16:42,585 You must be Rich. Yeah. 201 00:16:42,669 --> 00:16:44,087 Yeah, nice to meet you, man. 202 00:16:44,170 --> 00:16:45,755 You scared me there for a second. 203 00:16:45,839 --> 00:16:47,298 I've got kind of a weird sense of humor. 204 00:16:47,382 --> 00:16:48,842 You should know that up front. 205 00:16:48,883 --> 00:16:50,677 Hey, I think that's everything. 206 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:52,053 Your mom and I are going to head back. 207 00:16:52,137 --> 00:16:53,221 So-- Cool. 208 00:16:53,304 --> 00:16:54,431 Oh, hi. I'm Morris. 209 00:16:54,514 --> 00:16:55,724 Hey,Dad. Hi, Morris. 210 00:16:55,807 --> 00:16:56,975 I'm Rich. I'm the dad. 211 00:16:57,058 --> 00:16:58,268 It's nice to meet you. 212 00:16:58,351 --> 00:16:59,936 You can go now, Dad. 213 00:17:00,020 --> 00:17:01,021 Yeah, we're going to head back. 214 00:17:01,104 --> 00:17:02,689 Love you, Pops. 215 00:17:02,731 --> 00:17:04,190 I love you, too, man. 216 00:17:04,274 --> 00:17:05,900 You guys have fun. We'll see you. 217 00:17:05,984 --> 00:17:07,777 There you go. Nice to meet you, Morris. 218 00:17:07,861 --> 00:17:09,779 Hey, um-- 219 00:17:09,863 --> 00:17:11,698 I got a question for you. 220 00:17:11,740 --> 00:17:13,700 You seem kind of like a handsome guy. 221 00:17:13,742 --> 00:17:15,952 I wasn't really popular with the girls in high school 222 00:17:16,036 --> 00:17:18,204 so I want you to shoot me straight. 223 00:17:18,288 --> 00:17:20,915 Does this, uh, beard make me look fat? 224 00:17:23,460 --> 00:17:25,628 No, serious. I don't know how to answer that question. 225 00:17:25,712 --> 00:17:27,380 That's fair enough. That's fair enough. 226 00:17:29,340 --> 00:17:30,717 Oh, man. 227 00:17:30,759 --> 00:17:32,218 So you're a bully. 228 00:17:44,814 --> 00:17:49,736 My time at CBC kind of flew by fast. 229 00:17:49,778 --> 00:17:53,656 Sam and I hit it off well and became good friends quickly. 230 00:17:55,450 --> 00:17:57,160 Being in a structured institution, 231 00:17:57,243 --> 00:17:58,953 I found myself asking a lot of questions 232 00:17:59,037 --> 00:18:01,623 about the church, about authority. 233 00:18:01,706 --> 00:18:04,000 They weren't always popular with the faculty. 234 00:18:04,084 --> 00:18:07,128 oh, you play? 235 00:18:07,212 --> 00:18:08,922 Yeah, absolutely. I play all the time. 236 00:18:09,005 --> 00:18:10,507 Oh, Yeah, I saw the case. 237 00:18:10,590 --> 00:18:11,758 You want to jam? Yeah'.! 238 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:13,593 Yeah. For sure. 239 00:18:13,635 --> 00:18:16,638 Sam and I formed a small band called Zion. 240 00:18:16,721 --> 00:18:19,766 We started off playing at small coffeeshops around Cincinnati, 241 00:18:19,808 --> 00:18:23,311 and then eventually in church auditoriums. 242 00:18:23,394 --> 00:18:25,105 The more I played, the more I realized 243 00:18:25,188 --> 00:18:27,190 that I didn't want to just play music. 244 00:18:27,273 --> 00:18:30,527 I wanted a ministry. 245 00:18:30,610 --> 00:18:32,654 So we moved off campus our senior year 246 00:18:32,737 --> 00:18:35,115 with a couple of the other members of the band. 247 00:18:35,156 --> 00:18:38,159 It was exciting to feel God working through me 248 00:18:38,243 --> 00:18:42,622 even on a small stage like Cincinnati. 249 00:18:52,048 --> 00:18:54,968 He is incredible. 250 00:18:55,009 --> 00:18:56,177 He's pretty good. 251 00:18:59,806 --> 00:19:01,766 There he goes again. 252 00:19:07,355 --> 00:19:09,732 Richard. Richard. 253 00:19:09,816 --> 00:19:11,109 I thought I told you you weren't allowed 254 00:19:11,192 --> 00:19:13,069 to play on campus anymore. 255 00:19:13,153 --> 00:19:15,363 Especially if you're bent on destroying another piano. 256 00:19:15,446 --> 00:19:17,407 Mr. Walters, I'm sorry. 257 00:19:17,490 --> 00:19:22,829 I asked Richard to play for orientation. It's my fault. 258 00:19:22,912 --> 00:19:24,831 Monday morning, 259 00:19:24,914 --> 00:19:27,208 I want you prepared to quote the first chapter of Isaiah 260 00:19:27,292 --> 00:19:29,252 in my office eight a.m. sharp. 261 00:19:29,335 --> 00:19:30,920 I can do that. 262 00:19:34,591 --> 00:19:35,758 Break it up. 263 00:19:35,842 --> 00:19:37,260 It was so good. 264 00:19:37,343 --> 00:19:38,761 Take it easy. It was just one song. 265 00:19:38,845 --> 00:19:40,346 It was great. It really was. 266 00:19:40,388 --> 00:19:41,848 I see the Scripture Police got you. 267 00:19:41,890 --> 00:19:43,766 You noticed that, huh? I did. 268 00:19:43,850 --> 00:19:46,686 Thankfully, he's given me that chapter before. 269 00:19:46,769 --> 00:19:48,563 Man, what's up with that guy? 270 00:19:48,646 --> 00:19:50,440 It's ridiculous. 271 00:19:50,523 --> 00:19:53,943 Hi. Um, that was incredible. 272 00:19:54,027 --> 00:19:56,362 I've never heard anything like that before, ever. 273 00:19:57,739 --> 00:19:59,449 Um, I'm-- hi, I'm Beth. 274 00:19:59,532 --> 00:20:00,909 I'm Rich. 275 00:20:00,992 --> 00:20:02,952 Nice to meet you. You sing? 276 00:20:03,036 --> 00:20:06,539 Uh, yeah. I mean, just at, like, 277 00:20:06,623 --> 00:20:08,625 church at home. 278 00:20:08,708 --> 00:20:10,084 You should sing with our band, Zion. 279 00:20:10,168 --> 00:20:11,794 You've never heard me play. 280 00:20:11,878 --> 00:20:13,588 I mean, sing. 281 00:20:13,671 --> 00:20:15,131 Oh, I'm sure you're fine. Jesus isn't picky. 282 00:20:17,342 --> 00:20:20,303 Um, this is my friend, Jess. 283 00:20:20,386 --> 00:20:21,137 Say hi. 284 00:20:21,221 --> 00:20:22,555 He)'- 285 00:20:22,639 --> 00:20:23,932 That was great. 286 00:20:24,015 --> 00:20:25,433 You, too. Or not you too. 287 00:20:25,516 --> 00:20:27,101 I don't-- I don't sing at all. 288 00:20:27,185 --> 00:20:31,481 No, that's not what I meant. Um-- 289 00:20:31,564 --> 00:20:33,900 It was nice to meet you. 290 00:20:33,942 --> 00:20:36,653 Yeah. 291 00:20:36,736 --> 00:20:38,488 We'll see you around? 292 00:20:38,571 --> 00:20:40,198 Yep. Got it. 293 00:20:43,910 --> 00:20:47,080 Ah. She's pretty, huh? 294 00:20:47,121 --> 00:20:49,249 Pretty cute. 295 00:20:51,793 --> 00:20:53,419 I tried my best to ignore her 296 00:20:53,461 --> 00:20:56,172 and just focus on Zion or school. 297 00:20:56,256 --> 00:20:58,925 But I couldn't help it. 298 00:20:58,967 --> 00:21:02,762 Uh, from the moment I met Jess, I-- 299 00:21:02,804 --> 00:21:04,597 I couldn't get her out of my mind. 300 00:21:06,683 --> 00:21:08,601 Sorry about the car. 301 00:21:08,643 --> 00:21:11,187 I pretended to know, like I know something about cars 302 00:21:11,271 --> 00:21:12,855 for as long as I could and keep it up. 303 00:21:12,939 --> 00:21:14,524 I think I figured it out pretty quickly. 304 00:21:14,607 --> 00:21:15,942 Yeah, sorry about that. It's all right. 305 00:21:15,984 --> 00:21:17,694 I'll stick with the piano. 306 00:21:17,777 --> 00:21:20,029 Hold on. 307 00:21:20,113 --> 00:21:22,115 There are a lot of really amazing doors on this campus 308 00:21:22,156 --> 00:21:23,491 but these are probably my favorite. 309 00:21:23,574 --> 00:21:25,451 They're beautiful. 310 00:21:25,493 --> 00:21:27,120 You want to sit for a bit? Sure. 311 00:21:28,621 --> 00:21:30,290 Do you write? 312 00:21:30,373 --> 00:21:32,709 Some. ljournaL 313 00:21:32,792 --> 00:21:34,627 Journal? 314 00:21:34,669 --> 00:21:38,006 How morose of you. Hmm. 315 00:21:38,089 --> 00:21:39,674 What do you write about? 316 00:21:39,757 --> 00:21:43,469 Oh, my dreams. 317 00:21:43,511 --> 00:21:45,680 Fears. 318 00:21:45,763 --> 00:21:50,393 Dreams about what? 319 00:21:50,476 --> 00:21:51,686 About the man I'll marry 320 00:21:51,769 --> 00:21:53,021 and settle down with. 321 00:21:55,857 --> 00:21:58,318 The house we'll live in. 322 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,361 The kids. 323 00:22:00,445 --> 00:22:01,446 The dog. 324 00:22:03,781 --> 00:22:05,158 That's what you want most. 325 00:22:05,199 --> 00:22:07,076 Yeah. 326 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,747 Yeah, a home and someone to share it with. 327 00:22:10,830 --> 00:22:13,708 What about your fears? 328 00:22:13,791 --> 00:22:16,961 Being alone. 329 00:22:17,045 --> 00:22:21,007 No, I mean-- 330 00:22:21,049 --> 00:22:26,179 I'm terrified of myself sometimes, 331 00:22:26,262 --> 00:22:30,683 of this loneliness I feel inside of me. It's like, um-- 332 00:22:30,767 --> 00:22:32,518 it's like a black hole or something. 333 00:22:39,859 --> 00:22:42,862 Even when you're as close as you can be to another person, 334 00:22:42,945 --> 00:22:47,367 even when you're touching. 335 00:22:47,408 --> 00:22:49,369 That's exactly it. 336 00:22:52,038 --> 00:22:53,206 Feel alone now? 337 00:23:18,064 --> 00:23:21,275 Jess and I were immediately drawn to each other. 338 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,653 Over the next few months, 339 00:23:23,736 --> 00:23:25,613 I spent some of the most meaningful days of my life with her 340 00:23:25,696 --> 00:23:29,158 and learning each other's stories, 341 00:23:29,242 --> 00:23:30,410 and sharing dreams. 342 00:23:35,540 --> 00:23:39,043 We were just two lonely people who had found each other in the dark. 343 00:23:48,970 --> 00:23:51,764 When I was with Jess, I felt-- 344 00:23:51,848 --> 00:23:55,768 I felt something I hadn't felt in a long time. 345 00:23:55,852 --> 00:23:57,145 I felt like I was home. 346 00:24:04,318 --> 00:24:10,116 J3 Life goes on and so must the song J3 347 00:24:10,158 --> 00:24:13,286 X1 D00 doo doooo doc D 348 00:24:24,464 --> 00:24:26,799 J Sing your praise to the Lord ? 349 00:24:26,841 --> 00:24:29,343 Come on everybody and stand up and sing one more 350 00:24:29,427 --> 00:24:32,221 J Hallelujah, sing your praise to the Lord 351 00:24:32,305 --> 00:24:34,891 J I can never tell you .U I love it. 352 00:24:34,974 --> 00:24:37,560 Is that the guy? 353 00:24:37,643 --> 00:24:38,644 I love it. 354 00:24:40,188 --> 00:24:44,233 I want to do this one. Bryan? 355 00:24:44,317 --> 00:24:45,818 It's very different. 356 00:24:45,902 --> 00:24:48,154 I like different. I'm sick of the same. 357 00:24:48,196 --> 00:24:49,530 I want to do this song. 358 00:24:49,614 --> 00:24:53,493 Yeah. I'm with Amy on this. 359 00:24:53,576 --> 00:24:56,996 It's a good song. 360 00:24:59,081 --> 00:25:00,708 I'll make the call. 361 00:25:00,791 --> 00:25:02,585 Rich! Ric h a rd! 362 00:25:02,668 --> 00:25:03,794 Rich! Pick up the phone! 363 00:25:03,878 --> 00:25:05,463 Right here. 364 00:25:05,546 --> 00:25:07,340 Get on the phone right now! Who is it? 365 00:25:07,381 --> 00:25:09,717 What are you freaking out about? It's Nashville! 366 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,886 The city of Nashville is calling? 367 00:25:11,969 --> 00:25:15,515 No, it's some guy from a record label that represents Amy Grant. 368 00:25:15,598 --> 00:25:17,850 And he wants to talk to you! 369 00:25:17,892 --> 00:25:19,519 Did you do this? No! 370 00:25:19,602 --> 00:25:21,521 Was it Gary? It wasn't me. 371 00:25:21,562 --> 00:25:23,856 It's Beth. This had to have been Beth. Beth! 372 00:25:28,152 --> 00:25:29,779 Just' pick up the phone. 373 00:25:29,862 --> 00:25:30,696 Turn it off. 374 00:25:30,780 --> 00:25:32,031 Hello? 375 00:25:32,114 --> 00:25:33,533 Yes, is this Rich Mullins? 376 00:25:33,574 --> 00:25:35,243 This is Rich Mullins. 377 00:25:35,326 --> 00:25:37,870 Rich, this is Bryan Bontrager from Nashville. 378 00:25:37,912 --> 00:25:40,706 Well, what can I do for you Bryan Bontrager from Nashville? 379 00:25:40,748 --> 00:25:42,792 Rich, 380 00:25:42,875 --> 00:25:46,087 Amy Grant heard your song Sing Your Praise to the Lord 381 00:25:46,170 --> 00:25:49,131 and she wants to use it on her next album. 382 00:25:49,215 --> 00:25:53,302 Who's Amy Grant? Are you kidding me? Oh! 383 00:25:53,386 --> 00:25:55,137 Excuse me? 384 00:25:55,221 --> 00:25:57,557 Shhh. Sorry about that. Go ahead. 385 00:25:57,598 --> 00:26:00,643 Okay, well, um, listen, Rich, 386 00:26:00,726 --> 00:26:02,395 we'd like to bring you down to Nashville 387 00:26:02,478 --> 00:26:04,230 here so we can work out the writing contract. 388 00:26:04,272 --> 00:26:07,400 Wow, thanks Bryan, but, uh, 389 00:26:07,483 --> 00:26:09,318 I'm not really interested. 390 00:26:09,402 --> 00:26:11,988 You're not interested? 391 00:26:13,239 --> 00:26:15,658 Um, look Rich, 392 00:26:15,741 --> 00:26:18,744 I don't think you understand what we're offering you here, okay? 393 00:26:18,828 --> 00:26:20,955 This is a gamechanger. 394 00:26:21,038 --> 00:26:23,165 I'm not really sure I want my game to be changed. 395 00:26:23,249 --> 00:26:25,960 Okay, well, um, Rich, 396 00:26:26,043 --> 00:26:28,754 maybe you should think about this. 397 00:26:28,796 --> 00:26:31,632 You have a real gift 398 00:26:31,716 --> 00:26:33,009 and maybe you should be using it. 399 00:26:33,092 --> 00:26:36,012 Well, I think I am using it. 400 00:26:36,095 --> 00:26:39,348 All right, well, um, 401 00:26:39,432 --> 00:26:42,268 I,uh,hope you change your mind. 402 00:26:42,310 --> 00:26:44,020 Well, thanks for the call, Bryan. I appreciate it. 403 00:26:44,103 --> 00:26:45,396 Take care. 404 00:26:55,323 --> 00:26:57,783 What? 405 00:27:19,388 --> 00:27:21,474 When are we going to talk about the Nashville thing? 406 00:27:25,061 --> 00:27:27,063 We're not going to talk about the Nashville thing 407 00:27:27,146 --> 00:27:29,398 because I'm not going to Nashville. 408 00:27:29,482 --> 00:27:32,026 You have to go. 409 00:27:32,109 --> 00:27:33,986 Well, are you coming with me? 410 00:27:34,070 --> 00:27:36,405 You know I can't do that. We're not even married yet. 411 00:27:36,489 --> 00:27:37,657 What is this? 412 00:27:37,740 --> 00:27:39,533 Is this your parents? 413 00:27:39,617 --> 00:27:42,244 It's not just my parents. 414 00:27:42,328 --> 00:27:45,873 You knew what I wanted. 415 00:27:45,956 --> 00:27:47,375 Your life is headed 416 00:27:47,458 --> 00:27:49,877 in a totally different direction. 417 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,422 You don't want to be 41 and stuck in Cincinnati. 418 00:27:53,506 --> 00:27:56,092 Yes, I do. 419 00:27:56,175 --> 00:27:57,843 If you're there, I do. 420 00:28:02,515 --> 00:28:04,016 You don't belong here. 421 00:28:28,207 --> 00:28:30,876 Hey, Jess, it's me, uh-- 422 00:28:30,918 --> 00:28:32,586 hey, I didn't see you at the show tonight. 423 00:28:32,670 --> 00:28:34,255 I thought you were going to be there. 424 00:28:34,338 --> 00:28:35,881 Um...just give me a call. 425 00:29:05,411 --> 00:29:07,121 I just don't understand 426 00:29:07,204 --> 00:29:08,998 why everything you touch ends up busted. 427 00:29:09,081 --> 00:29:11,167 Why everything you touch ends up busted. 428 00:29:15,588 --> 00:29:17,757 Hey, hey, Jess, it's me. 429 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,677 Listen, call me when you get this, I just want to talk. 430 00:29:21,761 --> 00:29:25,931 I just, I just feel like we're not-- 431 00:29:25,973 --> 00:29:29,810 I just, I just want to talk about what's happening with us. 432 00:29:29,894 --> 00:29:32,146 I was just calling to make sure everything is okay. 433 00:29:34,356 --> 00:29:35,858 I just feel like we're not connecting 434 00:29:35,941 --> 00:29:37,401 and I don't know... 435 00:29:37,443 --> 00:29:39,779 why we keep going back and forth 436 00:29:39,862 --> 00:29:41,363 and if there's something I've done or-- 437 00:29:47,328 --> 00:29:50,664 Jess, if the problem is me, then I just want you to tell me. 438 00:30:10,267 --> 00:30:11,477 Hello? 439 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,687 Hey, Mom. 440 00:30:13,771 --> 00:30:15,314 Are you okay? 441 00:30:15,356 --> 00:30:18,192 I was just missing-- missing you guys. 442 00:30:18,275 --> 00:30:19,819 I just wanted to say hi. 443 00:30:19,860 --> 00:30:22,822 Neva, I get up at 4 a.m. 444 00:30:22,905 --> 00:30:24,824 Calm yourself. 445 00:30:24,865 --> 00:30:26,867 Mom, can I talk to Dad for a second? 446 00:30:26,951 --> 00:30:28,828 Yeah. 447 00:30:28,911 --> 00:30:30,996 Hey, he wants to talk to you. 448 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:37,253 Tell that boy to call back at a decent hour and -I'll- talk to him. 449 00:30:37,336 --> 00:30:39,171 He said to say that he loves you 450 00:30:39,255 --> 00:30:41,590 and that he'll call you later. 451 00:30:41,674 --> 00:30:43,092 He didn't say that, Mom. 452 00:30:43,175 --> 00:30:45,511 You know your father loves you. 453 00:30:45,553 --> 00:30:47,763 He just has to be at work. 454 00:30:47,847 --> 00:30:50,391 Neva, this is not the time for his nonsense. 455 00:30:50,474 --> 00:30:53,060 Hang up the damn phone. 456 00:30:53,143 --> 00:30:55,604 He's just tired. 457 00:30:55,688 --> 00:30:58,566 Yeah. Well, sorry for calling so late. 458 00:30:58,649 --> 00:31:01,026 All right. 459 00:31:01,110 --> 00:31:02,111 Love you. 460 00:31:31,140 --> 00:31:32,391 Hey, Rich. 461 00:31:32,433 --> 00:31:34,059 Sam'? Yeah. 462 00:31:34,101 --> 00:31:37,980 Come here. 463 00:31:38,063 --> 00:31:40,065 Where were you? 464 00:31:40,149 --> 00:31:42,818 Have you been drinking? Answer me! 465 00:31:42,902 --> 00:31:44,403 Gary and I went to a movie. 466 00:31:47,156 --> 00:31:49,033 Why didn't you ask me to go? 467 00:31:49,116 --> 00:31:50,618 Dude, I think you need to sleep it off. 468 00:31:50,701 --> 00:31:51,744 I think you're drunk. 469 00:31:51,827 --> 00:31:52,828 I'm fine. 470 00:31:54,413 --> 00:31:56,790 I take it back. 471 00:31:56,874 --> 00:31:58,751 I know you're drunk. 472 00:31:58,834 --> 00:32:01,128 Sleep it off. 473 00:32:04,715 --> 00:32:06,258 What's this? 474 00:32:06,342 --> 00:32:07,384 It's a camel. What do you think it is? 475 00:32:07,468 --> 00:32:08,928 It's not a camel. 476 00:32:10,346 --> 00:32:12,348 Sam. 477 00:32:12,431 --> 00:32:14,433 Yeah? 478 00:32:14,516 --> 00:32:16,435 Are we really friends? 479 00:32:20,230 --> 00:32:22,358 Sam invited me to come to Wichita 480 00:32:22,441 --> 00:32:25,486 with him to stay with his folks and sort things out. 481 00:32:25,569 --> 00:32:29,657 The Nashville situation had thrown a lot of my world out of joint. 482 00:32:29,740 --> 00:32:32,284 I wasn't totally sure how to put it back. 483 00:32:32,326 --> 00:32:36,455 I think a large pan' of me worried that what Jess had said was true. 484 00:32:36,538 --> 00:32:37,790 I had to go. 485 00:32:40,292 --> 00:32:41,460 Rich! 486 00:32:43,712 --> 00:32:46,298 I'll be right back. We 're out of milk. 487 00:32:46,340 --> 00:32:48,133 Could I talk to you for a second, Morris? 488 00:32:48,175 --> 00:32:50,844 Yeah. Absolutely. 489 00:32:50,928 --> 00:32:52,221 What's on your mind? 490 00:32:52,304 --> 00:32:54,890 Oh. Quite a lot. 491 00:32:54,974 --> 00:32:56,517 And Nashville. 492 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:57,810 Yeah, you heard about that? 493 00:32:57,893 --> 00:33:00,813 Yeah. Yeah. 494 00:33:00,896 --> 00:33:02,815 Yeah, Jessie doesn't want to go 495 00:33:02,856 --> 00:33:05,693 and, um-- 496 00:33:05,776 --> 00:33:07,528 she hates the whole idea of touring but, man, 497 00:33:07,611 --> 00:33:09,363 I don't know how to do this without her. 498 00:33:09,446 --> 00:33:12,574 You-you want to tour, do your music. 499 00:33:12,658 --> 00:33:16,495 Yeah, absolutely. I just don't want to do it alone. 500 00:33:16,578 --> 00:33:20,165 Yeah. Well, relationships are funny that way. 501 00:33:20,207 --> 00:33:23,335 They don't necessarily fix those kind of problems. 502 00:33:23,377 --> 00:33:26,422 And if you kind of give up this dream for that dream, 503 00:33:26,505 --> 00:33:28,507 you might lose both of them. 504 00:33:28,549 --> 00:33:31,010 Hm. It sort of happens that way sometimes. 505 00:33:31,093 --> 00:33:34,096 You know why I think Jesus didn't have a girl? 506 00:33:34,179 --> 00:33:37,099 I am dying to hear this one. Why? 507 00:33:37,182 --> 00:33:40,019 He didn't have a home to take her to. 508 00:33:40,102 --> 00:33:42,688 The guy was a Vagabond, I mean-- 509 00:33:42,730 --> 00:33:44,940 The only thing I know is that Jesus would not like Nashville. 510 00:33:45,024 --> 00:33:48,027 I mean-- I just mean all these cheesy artists 511 00:33:48,110 --> 00:33:50,195 like trying to make a cheap buck off of his name. 512 00:33:50,279 --> 00:33:52,031 The whole thing makes me want to puke, to be honest. 513 00:33:52,114 --> 00:33:54,700 Maybe that's why he wants you to be a part of it. 514 00:33:54,742 --> 00:33:57,286 Yeah. I don't know if God needs me to change Nashville. 515 00:33:57,369 --> 00:33:58,954 Oh, I'm sure he doesn't. 516 00:33:59,038 --> 00:34:02,207 But he still might want you to be there. 517 00:34:02,291 --> 00:34:04,543 It's just you have to be careful 518 00:34:04,585 --> 00:34:07,046 thinking that holiness is about finding the right place 519 00:34:07,087 --> 00:34:09,131 and doing the right things. 520 00:34:09,214 --> 00:34:11,550 Because it's really not that. 521 00:34:11,633 --> 00:34:14,470 I mean, holiness is really about 522 00:34:14,553 --> 00:34:17,139 loving God in the moment. 523 00:34:17,222 --> 00:34:19,266 I found in my own life there are a lot of things I know 524 00:34:19,349 --> 00:34:23,145 and there are some things I don't know. 525 00:34:23,228 --> 00:34:26,065 But if I give it time, 526 00:34:26,148 --> 00:34:28,400 if I really walk in faith on it, 527 00:34:28,484 --> 00:34:30,486 I don't have answers to everything, 528 00:34:30,569 --> 00:34:33,739 but I've been amazed at the things I found out. 529 00:34:33,781 --> 00:34:35,657 And the thing I know about it, 530 00:34:35,741 --> 00:34:37,659 is that God loves you no matter what you choose. 531 00:34:37,743 --> 00:34:39,828 And he's going to be there. 532 00:34:39,912 --> 00:34:42,748 He's going to be there with you on this journey. 533 00:34:42,790 --> 00:34:44,583 All right. So what about the girl? 534 00:34:44,625 --> 00:34:46,794 Yeah. 535 00:34:46,877 --> 00:34:48,670 Well, I don't know everything about women-- 536 00:34:51,215 --> 00:34:55,677 But I have been married to one woman for almost 20 years. 537 00:34:55,761 --> 00:34:58,347 And the reason that works is because 538 00:34:58,430 --> 00:35:01,475 she says, "Go get milk" and I go get milk. 539 00:35:01,558 --> 00:35:03,519 And then I pick up ice cream. 540 00:35:03,602 --> 00:35:06,522 Ooh, I hear you. 541 00:35:06,605 --> 00:35:08,190 Rocky Road. 542 00:35:08,273 --> 00:35:09,858 There is no other kind. 543 00:35:11,443 --> 00:35:12,694 I'll be right back. Thanks, Morris. 544 00:35:12,778 --> 00:35:13,862 All right, I'll see you. 545 00:35:19,409 --> 00:35:21,286 He still not here? 546 00:35:21,370 --> 00:35:23,372 He'll be here. 547 00:35:23,455 --> 00:35:26,625 I want to make sure we get a few things clear before I go on. 548 00:35:26,708 --> 00:35:29,169 Hey man, we've done this before. It's going to be okay. 549 00:35:29,253 --> 00:35:31,463 Not in my church. 550 00:35:31,505 --> 00:35:35,217 First off, you boys all better find yourselves some shoes. 551 00:35:35,300 --> 00:35:36,885 This is a house of God. 552 00:35:36,969 --> 00:35:39,471 And clean up, tuck your shirt tail in, 553 00:35:39,513 --> 00:35:41,723 have some self respect. 554 00:35:41,807 --> 00:35:44,893 I'm going to be talking today about being holy, 555 00:35:44,977 --> 00:35:47,396 being disciplined, and shaping up. 556 00:35:47,479 --> 00:35:49,148 And I want you to play something 557 00:35:49,189 --> 00:35:51,650 that will really drive that message home. 558 00:35:51,733 --> 00:35:53,610 You understand? 559 00:35:53,694 --> 00:35:55,904 And I hope you'll be out there listening to my sermon. 560 00:35:59,616 --> 00:36:01,869 So, Gary, do you want to tell Richard? 561 00:36:01,952 --> 00:36:05,414 If you're going to get serious about your faith, 562 00:36:05,497 --> 00:36:08,500 you need to look at this book like a rule book. 563 00:36:08,542 --> 00:36:12,754 It has the dos and the don'ts. 564 00:36:12,838 --> 00:36:15,257 Are you going to follow the dos? 565 00:36:15,340 --> 00:36:17,926 Or will you choose the don '13? 566 00:36:18,010 --> 00:36:20,721 As Zion comes up to close us in song, 567 00:36:20,804 --> 00:36:23,724 I want to leave you with this question. 568 00:36:23,807 --> 00:36:25,434 Would Christ be proud of you? 569 00:36:42,034 --> 00:36:48,207 Yeah, I don't want to be disrespectful. I know we're guests here, 570 00:36:48,248 --> 00:36:50,792 but I kind of think how disrespectful it would be 571 00:36:50,876 --> 00:36:54,129 to not be honest with the church. 572 00:36:54,213 --> 00:36:57,299 I think it was the theologian Karl Barth 573 00:36:57,382 --> 00:37:00,302 who was asked once what's the most-- 574 00:37:00,385 --> 00:37:05,474 What's the most theologically profound statement 575 00:37:05,557 --> 00:37:09,311 and this is how he responded. 576 00:37:09,394 --> 00:37:14,399 J3 Jesus loves me this I know J3 577 00:37:14,441 --> 00:37:16,985 DD 578 00:37:17,069 --> 00:37:22,658 J? For the Bible tells me so J3 579 00:37:22,741 --> 00:37:24,243 DD 580 00:37:24,284 --> 00:37:29,623 J3 They're the ones to Him belong J3 581 00:37:29,706 --> 00:37:35,671 D They are weak but he is strong 53 582 00:37:35,754 --> 00:37:36,922 DD 583 00:37:37,005 --> 00:37:42,636 J3 Yes, Jesus loves me J3 584 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:47,266 J3 Yes, Jesus loves me J3 585 00:37:47,307 --> 00:37:49,017 DD 586 00:37:49,101 --> 00:37:54,523 Yes, Jesus loves me 587 00:37:54,606 --> 00:37:59,361 J? The Bible tells me so J3 588 00:37:59,444 --> 00:38:05,200 DD 589 00:38:05,284 --> 00:38:09,454 Whenever I hear people say that Christians are hypocrites, 590 00:38:09,538 --> 00:38:11,707 I kind of go, "Man, every time we get together 591 00:38:11,790 --> 00:38:14,126 -we're confessing that we're hypocrites.- 592 00:38:14,167 --> 00:38:16,712 DD 593 00:38:16,795 --> 00:38:18,714 The need of God and the need of each other, 594 00:38:18,797 --> 00:38:23,552 DD 595 00:38:23,635 --> 00:38:25,220 it's all the pretending to be perfect 596 00:38:25,304 --> 00:38:30,642 that breeds inauthenticity in the church. 597 00:38:30,726 --> 00:38:34,187 Because none Of US are. 598 00:38:34,271 --> 00:38:36,481 DD 599 00:38:36,565 --> 00:38:41,069 I've been wrestling lately with-with surrender myself. 600 00:38:41,153 --> 00:38:45,657 DD 601 00:38:45,741 --> 00:38:47,326 But He loves us still. 602 00:38:50,454 --> 00:38:51,872 DD 603 00:38:58,503 --> 00:39:01,006 I think I need to go to Nashville. 604 00:39:03,425 --> 00:39:05,677 DD 605 00:39:05,761 --> 00:39:10,432 Whether I go or whether I don't go, 606 00:39:10,515 --> 00:39:12,392 I kind of think it doesn't matter. 607 00:39:12,476 --> 00:39:15,270 DD 608 00:39:15,354 --> 00:39:17,773 Because in the end all that really matters, 609 00:39:22,027 --> 00:39:27,449 J3 Yes, Jesus loves me J3 610 00:39:27,532 --> 00:39:32,037 J3 Yes, Jesus loves me J3 611 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:33,580 DD 612 00:39:33,663 --> 00:39:38,794 J3 Yes, Jesus loves me J3 613 00:39:38,877 --> 00:39:43,799 J? The Bible tells me so J3 614 00:39:43,882 --> 00:39:46,885 DD 615 00:39:46,968 --> 00:39:50,097 Nashville is so not ready for him. 616 00:39:50,180 --> 00:39:51,473 I know. 617 00:39:53,683 --> 00:39:56,311 Hey! 618 00:39:56,395 --> 00:39:59,272 You weren't going to go without saying goodbye to me, were you? 619 00:40:03,735 --> 00:40:04,945 Miss me. 620 00:40:05,028 --> 00:40:08,073 Yeah. Of course I will. 621 00:40:08,156 --> 00:40:09,825 You're the one that got me into this mess, 622 00:40:09,908 --> 00:40:11,410 this whole Nashville thing. 623 00:40:13,912 --> 00:40:17,541 You just don't want to go without Jess, so... 624 00:40:17,624 --> 00:40:19,668 quit being a chicken, right? 625 00:40:24,714 --> 00:40:26,842 Just don't forget about us, okay? 626 00:40:32,222 --> 00:40:33,140 Richard! 627 00:40:34,641 --> 00:40:37,185 Hey. I got to go but don't forget 628 00:40:37,269 --> 00:40:38,395 who your real friends are. 629 00:40:40,063 --> 00:40:41,064 I'll miss you. 630 00:40:43,900 --> 00:40:45,235 Time to go. 631 00:40:49,489 --> 00:40:50,490 You Okay? 632 00:40:54,453 --> 00:40:57,372 She's right. 633 00:40:57,456 --> 00:41:00,625 I am so scared. 634 00:41:00,709 --> 00:41:04,963 It'll be okay. We're only five hours away. 635 00:41:05,046 --> 00:41:06,715 I'm doing what He wants me to do. 636 00:41:06,798 --> 00:41:10,051 You'd think this would be easier or something. 637 00:41:10,135 --> 00:41:12,137 If you're really so scared about going, 638 00:41:12,220 --> 00:41:13,847 why don't you move this junk 639 00:41:13,930 --> 00:41:15,474 and -I'll- ride with you to the edge of town. 640 00:41:15,557 --> 00:41:16,600 Let me get my wallet. 641 00:41:20,479 --> 00:41:21,563 Hey. hey! 642 00:41:22,814 --> 00:41:25,066 Hey, uh-- 643 00:41:25,150 --> 00:41:28,153 I think you packed up some of my shirts. 644 00:41:31,031 --> 00:41:32,991 Leaving Cincinnati for Nashville 645 00:41:33,074 --> 00:41:36,077 was one of the hardest things I've ever done. 646 00:41:36,161 --> 00:41:42,042 I felt like I was trading one life for another. 647 00:41:42,125 --> 00:41:43,877 But I couldn't shake the feeling 648 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:45,212 that God wanted me there for some reason. 649 00:41:54,888 --> 00:41:58,183 It was a whirlwind from the time I arrived. 650 00:41:58,225 --> 00:42:00,435 -Sing- Your -Praise to the- Lord was a big hit for Amy 651 00:42:00,519 --> 00:42:02,437 and her album became the biggest' selling album 652 00:42:02,521 --> 00:42:04,606 in Christian radio at the time so 653 00:42:04,689 --> 00:42:07,859 so of course they wanted me to write more songs. 654 00:42:07,943 --> 00:42:10,153 As much as I enjoyed writing music, 655 00:42:10,237 --> 00:42:16,201 I felt more and more that I wanted to record my own work. 656 00:42:16,284 --> 00:42:20,372 I had meetings with publishers but without much luck 657 00:42:20,455 --> 00:42:22,415 and I'm not sure I fit 658 00:42:22,499 --> 00:42:24,793 the aesthetic of contemporary Christian music. 659 00:42:24,876 --> 00:42:27,128 Besides, songwriting and royalties gave me something 660 00:42:27,212 --> 00:42:30,882 I'd never had before, which was a steady income. 661 00:42:30,966 --> 00:42:32,717 Not that I entirely knew what to do with it. 662 00:42:38,223 --> 00:42:40,308 All the money in Nashville couldn't change the fact 663 00:42:40,392 --> 00:42:42,811 that I missed my friends back home. 664 00:42:42,894 --> 00:42:44,771 Especially Jess. 665 00:43:06,710 --> 00:43:09,963 J /fyou find a love that's lender 666 00:43:10,046 --> 00:43:13,174 J3 If you find someone that's true J3 667 00:43:13,258 --> 00:43:15,302 57 Thank the Lord 668 00:43:15,385 --> 00:43:18,013 D He's been doubw good to you 5311 669 00:43:21,975 --> 00:43:23,810 That's beautiful. 670 00:43:23,893 --> 00:43:25,854 You doing okay? 671 00:43:25,937 --> 00:43:27,439 Got into another fight with Matt and Bryan. 672 00:43:27,522 --> 00:43:29,608 Another one, huh? 673 00:43:29,649 --> 00:43:31,443 This one was messy. 674 00:43:31,484 --> 00:43:33,987 You sure don't like to play by the rules, do you? 675 00:43:34,070 --> 00:43:36,781 Amy, I don't even know what the rules are. 676 00:43:36,823 --> 00:43:39,200 I've been here for a while now, I've been writing for a while, 677 00:43:39,284 --> 00:43:41,661 don't get me wrong, I like writing for you 678 00:43:41,745 --> 00:43:44,706 and I like writing for people 679 00:43:44,789 --> 00:43:46,374 but I want to record my own stuff. 680 00:43:46,458 --> 00:43:48,460 And they won't even hear me out. 681 00:43:48,501 --> 00:43:50,337 So why don't they? 682 00:43:50,420 --> 00:43:51,921 I mean, they're keeping me out of the loop on this. 683 00:43:52,005 --> 00:43:55,342 They say my songs are too dark or too-- 684 00:43:55,425 --> 00:43:59,846 I don't know, not happy enough, not cheery and cheesy, if you ask me. 685 00:43:59,929 --> 00:44:03,224 What were you playing when I walked in? 686 00:44:03,308 --> 00:44:04,476 Did you like it? 687 00:44:04,559 --> 00:44:06,311 Yeah. Did you really? 688 00:44:06,394 --> 00:44:08,521 Yeah. Really really? 689 00:44:09,898 --> 00:44:12,984 I loved it. What is it? 690 00:44:13,068 --> 00:44:15,904 It's a song I wrote for my wedding. 691 00:44:15,987 --> 00:44:18,156 Can you play me the rest of the song? 692 00:44:18,198 --> 00:44:20,241 Yeah. 693 00:44:20,325 --> 00:44:21,409 Sure. 694 00:44:21,493 --> 00:44:23,161 It's just a chorus. 695 00:44:25,664 --> 00:44:30,502 D You can thank the Father for the things that He has done 3 696 00:44:30,585 --> 00:44:32,712 DD 697 00:44:32,796 --> 00:44:36,716 D Thank mm for the tmngs He's yet to do 53 698 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,343 DD 699 00:44:38,385 --> 00:44:42,013 J3 If you find a love that's tender J3 700 00:44:42,055 --> 00:44:45,100 J3 If you find someone who's true J3 701 00:44:45,183 --> 00:44:47,102 D Thank the Lord D 702 00:44:47,185 --> 00:44:49,771 J3 He's been doubly good to you J3 703 00:44:49,854 --> 00:44:51,606 DD 704 00:44:51,690 --> 00:44:53,775 Rich, seriously you have to give me that song. 705 00:44:53,858 --> 00:44:56,027 I want that song. 706 00:44:56,111 --> 00:44:57,195 Sorry. 707 00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,033 That one's for the girl. 708 00:45:48,121 --> 00:45:52,417 You know, I'm being asked by people all the time 709 00:45:52,500 --> 00:45:54,085 how do you feel close to God. 710 00:45:54,127 --> 00:45:56,463 And I kind of go 711 00:45:56,546 --> 00:45:59,090 -You know what? I don't really know that.- 712 00:45:59,174 --> 00:46:02,927 When I think about the lives of--of the great saints 713 00:46:03,011 --> 00:46:08,767 I don't necessarily think that they always felt close to God. 714 00:46:08,808 --> 00:46:11,102 See, closest to God, it isn't about feelings. 715 00:46:11,144 --> 00:46:15,106 Closest to God is about obedience. 716 00:46:15,148 --> 00:46:18,818 But if we don't obey, we don't even have a chance. 717 00:46:27,786 --> 00:46:29,287 What's up, bud? 718 00:46:29,329 --> 00:46:31,664 Hey, Rich. 719 00:46:31,748 --> 00:46:33,208 That was a really good show. 720 00:46:33,291 --> 00:46:36,211 Thanks. It was fun. 721 00:46:36,294 --> 00:46:38,963 Can I talk to you for a second? 722 00:46:39,047 --> 00:46:40,632 Yeah. Absolutely. 723 00:46:40,673 --> 00:46:41,966 What's up? 724 00:46:42,050 --> 00:46:43,468 No, it's just-- I just 725 00:46:43,551 --> 00:46:47,096 want to say thank you 726 00:46:47,180 --> 00:46:48,264 for what you said in there. 727 00:46:48,348 --> 00:46:51,309 Yeah, you bet, man. 728 00:46:51,351 --> 00:46:53,645 What did I say exactly? 729 00:46:53,728 --> 00:46:54,979 You said a lot. 730 00:46:55,063 --> 00:46:56,481 ' -1 731 00:46:56,564 --> 00:46:59,359 I'm not feeling close to God. Hm. 732 00:46:59,442 --> 00:47:04,531 It's just that I struggle a lot with loneliness. 733 00:47:04,614 --> 00:47:06,366 I'm going to fill you in on a little secret 734 00:47:06,449 --> 00:47:07,909 that they won't tell you in Sunday School. 735 00:47:07,992 --> 00:47:09,410 All the heroes in the Bible, 736 00:47:09,494 --> 00:47:12,372 all the weirdos in the Bible, 737 00:47:12,455 --> 00:47:14,541 they all struggled with the same stuff. 738 00:47:14,624 --> 00:47:17,544 Loneliness and all of it. 739 00:47:17,627 --> 00:47:22,507 It's just that some of us aren't afraid to admit it. 740 00:47:25,009 --> 00:47:27,053 You know? 741 00:47:28,972 --> 00:47:31,224 It's my dad. I've got to go. 742 00:47:31,307 --> 00:47:33,518 I won't forget. Thanks, Rich. 743 00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,520 You bet, man. Nice to meet you. 744 00:47:35,603 --> 00:47:37,188 Good night. Good night. 745 00:47:42,861 --> 00:47:44,404 Every small conversation 746 00:47:44,487 --> 00:47:46,447 or fleeting moment ofconnecfion 747 00:47:46,531 --> 00:47:49,117 reminded me that despite all the flaws and tackiness 748 00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:50,952 of the Christian music industry, 749 00:47:51,035 --> 00:47:53,246 God had given me something to say 750 00:47:53,329 --> 00:47:55,456 and a platform to share it. 751 00:47:55,540 --> 00:48:00,545 I realized that music could be more than just music. 752 00:48:00,628 --> 00:48:03,798 But they didn '2' let me start just making records over night. 753 00:48:03,882 --> 00:48:06,092 It took some convincing. 754 00:48:06,175 --> 00:48:08,553 Did you read the letter? 755 00:48:08,636 --> 00:48:10,305 I haven '2' had time. Man', this is important. 756 00:48:10,388 --> 00:48:11,806 Can you at least tell me you'll read it today? 757 00:48:11,890 --> 00:48:14,225 Just tell me, what is it? 758 00:48:14,309 --> 00:48:16,477 I want to talk to you about me recording my own songs. 759 00:48:16,561 --> 00:48:19,022 You know I think you're an amazing writer, 760 00:48:19,105 --> 00:48:21,357 but I don't think you're ready to be a recording artist. 761 00:48:21,441 --> 00:48:24,235 Sorry, we'll just talk about this later, okay? 762 00:48:24,319 --> 00:48:26,154 What? When I'm ready, Matt? 763 00:48:26,237 --> 00:48:27,739 What's with you, Rich? 764 00:48:27,822 --> 00:48:29,532 Do you really want to do this here? 765 00:48:29,574 --> 00:48:31,284 In front of Amy- I have a right to know! 766 00:48:31,367 --> 00:48:33,244 Look, you really want to be a recording artist? 767 00:48:33,328 --> 00:48:34,746 Then everything's got to change. 768 00:48:34,829 --> 00:48:36,623 Your look, the way you dress, 769 00:48:36,706 --> 00:48:39,334 it's your stage presence-- What about my songs? 770 00:48:39,417 --> 00:48:41,127 I don't think they're ready either. 771 00:48:48,343 --> 00:48:50,845 J? This life has shown me J3 772 00:48:50,929 --> 00:48:53,723 X1 How we're mended and how we're tom D 773 00:48:53,806 --> 00:48:55,308 DD 774 00:48:55,391 --> 00:48:57,352 J3 How it's okay to be lonely J3 775 00:48:57,435 --> 00:49:01,773 J3 As long as you're free J3 776 00:49:01,856 --> 00:49:05,193 But' sometimes my ground was stony 777 00:49:05,276 --> 00:49:08,821 And sometimes co ve/'ed up with thorns 778 00:49:08,905 --> 00:49:15,453 J3 Only you could make it what it had to be J3 779 00:49:15,495 --> 00:49:17,038 DD 780 00:49:17,121 --> 00:49:18,998 J3 If they dressed me like a pauper J3 781 00:49:19,082 --> 00:49:23,127 J3 Or if they dined me like a prince J3 782 00:49:23,169 --> 00:49:25,880 J3 If they lay me with my fathers J3 783 00:49:25,964 --> 00:49:30,051 J3 Or with my ashes scattered on the wind I don't care J? 784 00:49:30,134 --> 00:49:35,848 J3 Because when I leave I want to go out like Elijah J3 785 00:49:35,932 --> 00:49:42,814 J7 With a whirlwind to fuel my chariot of fire J3 786 00:49:42,897 --> 00:49:46,109 J3 And when I look back on the stars J3 787 00:49:46,192 --> 00:49:50,071 J3 It'll be like a candle light in Central Park J? 788 00:49:50,154 --> 00:49:52,365 DD 789 00:49:52,448 --> 00:49:56,828 J3 It won't break my heart to say goodbye J3 790 00:49:56,869 --> 00:49:59,414 DD 791 00:50:11,592 --> 00:50:13,428 He seems ready to me. 792 00:50:18,641 --> 00:50:20,560 Rich, oft? Eventually, the label gave me a shot' 793 00:50:20,643 --> 00:50:23,271 and they signed me to a pretty modest contract 794 00:50:23,354 --> 00:50:25,356 After a few months, I finished my first album 795 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,568 called, we//, Rich Mullins. 796 00:50:30,737 --> 00:50:32,238 After that, I went on tour with Amy 797 00:50:32,321 --> 00:50:33,823 and opened at her concerts. 798 00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,037 I found that being on the road 799 00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,539 was much more enjoyable than being in the studio. 800 00:50:41,622 --> 00:50:44,959 Maybe it's because I didn't' like Nashville very much, I den '2' know. 801 00:50:45,043 --> 00:50:47,712 Music was always something that was a pan' of me, 802 00:50:47,754 --> 00:50:50,089 something I needed to share. 803 00:50:50,173 --> 00:50:52,383 Now I was reaching so many people every night', if was exciting, 804 00:50:52,467 --> 00:50:56,596 despite all the corporate politics that went with it. 805 00:50:56,679 --> 00:50:59,807 But it's funny how you can meet hundreds of new people every day. 806 00:50:59,891 --> 00:51:01,642 Thank you, thank you. 807 00:51:01,726 --> 00:51:03,478 And still feel almost completely alone. 808 00:51:03,561 --> 00:51:05,313 Thank you all so much. 809 00:51:05,396 --> 00:51:07,023 We're going to take a real quick break now 810 00:51:07,106 --> 00:51:08,399 and be right back in a few minutes. 811 00:51:18,659 --> 00:51:20,495 There he is! 812 00:51:20,578 --> 00:51:22,330 Tell us! Here's our rock star! 813 00:51:22,413 --> 00:51:24,290 She does that so way better than you, man. 814 00:51:24,373 --> 00:51:26,000 Yeah, she's really talented. 815 00:51:26,084 --> 00:51:27,585 How are you feeling? 816 00:51:27,668 --> 00:51:29,087 Ah. Okay, let's go, let's go, let's go. 817 00:51:29,170 --> 00:51:31,172 Who's smoking? 818 00:51:31,255 --> 00:51:35,802 Hey. Ohhh. So proud of you. 819 00:51:37,970 --> 00:51:40,098 Wayne. Hey,Dad. 820 00:51:40,181 --> 00:51:41,808 You look like a girl with that long hair. 821 00:51:41,891 --> 00:51:43,101 You need a hair cut, boy. 822 00:51:46,104 --> 00:51:49,315 You haven't seen me in months and that's what you have to say? 823 00:51:49,398 --> 00:51:50,775 It's only a joke. 824 00:51:50,817 --> 00:51:52,527 Don't be so damn sensitive. 825 00:51:52,610 --> 00:51:54,278 I guess piano players can wear their hair 826 00:51:54,362 --> 00:51:56,948 however they want these days. 827 00:51:56,989 --> 00:52:00,284 Rich, would you mind coming back on at the end and doing the rain thing? Absolutely. 828 00:52:00,368 --> 00:52:02,703 You've got a very talented son here. 829 00:52:02,787 --> 00:52:04,372 You must be a very proud father. 830 00:52:04,455 --> 00:52:06,124 No, I'm proud of all my kids. 831 00:52:06,165 --> 00:52:07,375 Two boys, two girls, 832 00:52:07,458 --> 00:52:09,544 and a--piano player. 833 00:52:11,129 --> 00:52:12,130 I got to go. 834 00:52:23,558 --> 00:52:26,227 What we're going to do, 835 00:52:26,310 --> 00:52:28,396 we're going to make rain, okay? 836 00:52:28,479 --> 00:52:30,523 So what I'm going to do is break you guys up into three groups. 837 00:52:32,066 --> 00:52:33,317 This one's about here. 838 00:52:35,403 --> 00:52:36,654 Nice. 839 00:53:30,208 --> 00:53:31,876 Come on, pick up. 840 00:53:33,753 --> 00:53:35,254 Hello? 841 00:53:35,338 --> 00:53:36,797 Jess! 842 00:53:36,881 --> 00:53:38,549 Oh. It's me. 843 00:53:38,591 --> 00:53:40,468 Hey, Richard. Sorry I didn't make it. 844 00:53:40,551 --> 00:53:44,222 Oh, no, that's fine. 845 00:53:44,305 --> 00:53:46,140 Hey, listen, what are you doing next weekend? 846 00:53:46,224 --> 00:53:47,642 The tour is coming through Cincinnati-- 847 00:53:47,725 --> 00:53:49,060 Rich, I'm engaged. 848 00:53:51,062 --> 00:53:52,730 I'm sorry. 849 00:53:52,772 --> 00:53:56,150 I just, I don't know, I just-- 850 00:53:56,234 --> 00:53:57,610 I thought you should know. 851 00:54:20,174 --> 00:54:25,763 You know, I'm not a real-- 852 00:54:25,846 --> 00:54:28,599 I don't know-- 853 00:54:28,641 --> 00:54:32,979 I have no interest in anybody else. 854 00:54:33,062 --> 00:54:36,816 The woman I'm in love with is married to someone else so-- 855 00:54:36,899 --> 00:54:39,443 that's the way it-- 856 00:54:39,527 --> 00:54:41,779 that's the way it goes, 857 00:54:41,821 --> 00:54:42,822 and I don't mind that. 858 00:54:46,158 --> 00:54:49,954 I think maybe God wanted me to be celibate. 859 00:54:50,037 --> 00:54:53,082 The way he accomplished that was to break my heart. 860 00:54:54,750 --> 00:54:56,502 So the song you wrote for your wedding, 861 00:54:56,585 --> 00:55:02,008 Doubly Good, you gave to Amy Grant. Why? 862 00:55:02,091 --> 00:55:04,552 Some things you just have to walk away from, 863 00:55:04,635 --> 00:55:06,220 you know. 864 00:55:06,304 --> 00:55:08,848 And some things you don't have a choice. 865 00:55:08,931 --> 00:55:12,643 The woman I love is married to somebody else. That's the way it goes. 866 00:55:14,603 --> 00:55:16,480 Well, if that's the case, then it seems to me 867 00:55:16,564 --> 00:55:19,150 that song is exceptionally cruel. 868 00:55:19,191 --> 00:55:21,068 Why is that? 869 00:55:21,152 --> 00:55:24,155 Well, because it implies that if God hasn't given you 870 00:55:24,238 --> 00:55:26,240 a love that's tender and someone who's true 871 00:55:26,324 --> 00:55:29,827 then he hasn't been doubly good to you. 872 00:55:29,869 --> 00:55:32,830 Well, God doesn't have to be singly good to any of us. 873 00:55:32,872 --> 00:55:35,666 We all have it better than we deserve so... 874 00:55:35,708 --> 00:55:37,835 we should be thankful for what we have. 875 00:57:57,016 --> 00:57:59,351 with more instruments] 876 00:58:04,148 --> 00:58:05,524 It's good. 877 00:58:05,608 --> 00:58:06,817 That's horrible. 878 00:58:06,859 --> 00:58:08,819 I like it. Bryan? 879 00:58:08,903 --> 00:58:10,404 Maybe if we just changed-- 880 00:58:10,488 --> 00:58:11,697 No, I don't want to-- 881 00:58:11,780 --> 00:58:13,157 I don't want to change-- 882 00:58:13,199 --> 00:58:15,826 I don't want to do it at all. 883 00:58:15,910 --> 00:58:19,163 It's exactly this that made me not want to come to Nashville. 884 00:58:19,246 --> 00:58:22,249 Yeah, you made that clear, Mullins. 885 00:58:22,333 --> 00:58:24,710 But no one's holding a gun to your head here. 886 00:58:24,793 --> 00:58:26,003 We're just trying to help. 887 00:58:26,045 --> 00:58:28,547 Well, you're not helping. 888 00:58:28,631 --> 00:58:31,091 Look, my songs aren't fill-in-the-blanks, you guys. 889 00:58:31,175 --> 00:58:33,844 You can't just put the word -Jesus- in a few more times and expect it to be better. 890 00:58:33,928 --> 00:58:36,680 Rich, you already have a lot of longing and brokenness 891 00:58:36,722 --> 00:58:38,390 in your other songs, which is good. 892 00:58:38,474 --> 00:58:40,726 Maybe if you just had happier lyrics. 893 00:58:40,809 --> 00:58:43,229 I'm not trying to be a Christian pop star, guys. 894 00:58:43,312 --> 00:58:46,106 I'm just trying to say something true. Okay? 895 00:58:46,190 --> 00:58:48,526 I don't want to change my music. 896 00:58:48,609 --> 00:58:52,571 Yeah? Well, things change. 897 00:58:52,655 --> 00:58:56,116 You sure don't seem to mind the new car, 898 00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,285 the new house, right? 899 00:58:58,369 --> 00:59:00,371 Don't mess with my songs. 900 00:59:00,412 --> 00:59:02,540 Rich, we don't want to mess with your songs, okay? 901 00:59:02,623 --> 00:59:05,125 But in order for people to hear your music, 902 00:59:05,209 --> 00:59:06,710 we have to sell records. 903 00:59:06,794 --> 00:59:08,587 And in order to sell records, 904 00:59:08,671 --> 00:59:10,548 we have to get the sound right. Yeah! 905 00:59:10,631 --> 00:59:12,550 The problem is the sound. The problem is me. I got it. 906 00:59:12,633 --> 00:59:14,426 I get it. 907 00:59:14,510 --> 00:59:16,887 What are you doing? 908 00:59:16,929 --> 00:59:19,306 You can't leave, we're in the middle of a session! 909 00:59:19,390 --> 00:59:24,603 You don't want to hear anything I have to say to you right now. 910 00:59:24,687 --> 00:59:27,940 He's never going to sing this song. 911 00:59:28,023 --> 00:59:29,775 Well, if he doesn't sing this one, 912 00:59:29,858 --> 00:59:31,485 he's going to have to come up with something else. 913 00:59:31,569 --> 00:59:33,404 We still got one more slot to fill. 914 00:59:39,827 --> 00:59:43,289 You know, he has more talent than anyone I've ever seen. 915 00:59:46,375 --> 00:59:49,920 What if he never gets off the ground? 916 01:00:09,231 --> 01:00:10,733 Hello? 917 01:00:10,816 --> 01:00:12,067 Hey, Rich. 918 01:00:12,151 --> 01:00:13,902 Hey, Gary. What's up, man? 919 01:00:13,986 --> 01:00:15,529 I know you're slammed, but I got a friend 920 01:00:15,613 --> 01:00:17,197 who's asking for a favor. 921 01:00:17,281 --> 01:00:19,199 Would you have time to do a show? 922 01:00:19,283 --> 01:00:21,285 Man, I don't know. We're kind of behind on this thing. 923 01:00:21,368 --> 01:00:23,287 Thelabers all over me about it. 924 01:00:23,370 --> 01:00:26,040 It's on a Native American reservation. Really? 925 01:00:26,123 --> 01:00:28,000 Yeah, but it's all the way out in Arizona. 926 01:00:28,083 --> 01:00:31,462 It's, like, a million miles from Nashville. 927 01:00:31,545 --> 01:00:34,882 I know you're super busy working on the new album. 928 01:00:34,965 --> 01:00:36,383 Yeah, I'll do it. 929 01:00:46,518 --> 01:00:48,896 Truth was I couldn't get away fast enough. 930 01:00:48,979 --> 01:00:50,898 I probably would have done a retreat on the moon 931 01:00:50,981 --> 01:00:54,318 if it meant getting space from the record company. 932 01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:56,111 The only thing I knew about the reservation 933 01:00:56,195 --> 01:00:57,946 was that it was called Window Rock 934 01:00:58,030 --> 01:00:59,657 and it was in the middle of nowhere. 935 01:00:59,740 --> 01:01:02,034 I really had no idea what to expect. 936 01:01:11,752 --> 01:01:13,337 Driving through the reservation 937 01:01:13,379 --> 01:01:15,506 was like being in another world. 938 01:01:15,547 --> 01:01:20,177 It was beautiful there, but sad at the same time. 939 01:01:21,929 --> 01:01:25,516 Children played in rundown streets. 940 01:01:25,557 --> 01:01:27,351 Some people barely left their homes at all. 941 01:01:36,193 --> 01:01:37,528 There's need here. 942 01:01:40,698 --> 01:01:41,865 Great need. 943 01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:47,788 I ended up staying a few days here 944 01:01:47,871 --> 01:01:51,291 working with the Youth Ministry team. 945 01:01:51,375 --> 01:01:54,378 I was able to get to know some of the kids and hear their stories. 946 01:01:54,420 --> 01:01:55,879 The good and the bad. 947 01:01:58,549 --> 01:02:02,720 It was one of the most real experiences in my life. 948 01:02:02,803 --> 01:02:04,555 I didn't want it to end. 949 01:02:07,266 --> 01:02:09,143 Lights out in ten minutes. 950 01:02:12,312 --> 01:02:13,439 Hey, Rich. 951 01:02:13,522 --> 01:02:14,815 How's it going, man? 952 01:02:14,898 --> 01:02:16,400 I really like your shirt. 953 01:02:16,483 --> 01:02:18,902 Oh, thanks. Yeah, I love this one. 954 01:02:18,986 --> 01:02:20,279 You know what? 955 01:02:20,362 --> 01:02:22,281 It looks like it'd fit you. 956 01:02:22,364 --> 01:02:23,741 Thanks. 957 01:02:23,782 --> 01:02:25,033 Yeah, man. 958 01:02:27,244 --> 01:02:28,954 Here you go. It's yours. 959 01:02:29,037 --> 01:02:31,749 Hey. Can I talk to you? 960 01:02:31,832 --> 01:02:34,126 Yeah. Sure. Sit. 961 01:02:34,209 --> 01:02:36,170 I could tell as soon as we sat down 962 01:02:36,253 --> 01:02:39,465 that this kid had something he needed to share. 963 01:02:39,548 --> 01:02:41,884 We got to talking and he told me 964 01:02:41,967 --> 01:02:46,180 about how six months earlier he had shot himself in the stomach. 965 01:02:46,263 --> 01:02:49,475 We talked late into the night about depression and despair 966 01:02:49,558 --> 01:02:51,477 and how he thought he had nothing to hope for, 967 01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:55,606 until he got so desperate he tried to kill himself. 968 01:02:55,647 --> 01:02:59,401 And then the humiliation of failing even at that. 969 01:02:59,485 --> 01:03:02,613 I tried my hardest to find the words to be of some comfort to him 970 01:03:02,696 --> 01:03:05,699 to let him know he wasn '2' alone. 971 01:03:05,783 --> 01:03:09,036 Eventually I was able to write them down. 972 01:03:09,119 --> 01:03:14,500 J3 Clung to a ball that was hung in the sky J3 973 01:03:14,583 --> 01:03:16,126 J7 Hurled into orbit J7 974 01:03:16,210 --> 01:03:21,340 L' There you are L' 975 01:03:21,423 --> 01:03:23,467 DD 976 01:03:23,550 --> 01:03:26,970 Whether you fall down or whether you fly 977 01:03:27,012 --> 01:03:29,014 DD 978 01:03:29,097 --> 01:03:34,645 .0 Seems you can never gel too far .U 979 01:03:34,686 --> 01:03:39,900 DD 980 01:03:39,983 --> 01:03:46,240 J3 Someone's waiting to grow wings J3 981 01:03:47,825 --> 01:03:50,828 L' Upon your flightless heart L' 982 01:03:50,869 --> 01:03:54,581 DD 983 01:03:54,665 --> 01:03:57,501 You're on the verge of a miracle 984 01:03:57,543 --> 01:04:01,380 Standing there ohhh 985 01:04:01,463 --> 01:04:03,507 You're on the verge of a miracle 986 01:04:03,549 --> 01:04:05,259 You know, 987 01:04:05,342 --> 01:04:06,927 this might keep him around a little bit longer. 988 01:04:07,010 --> 01:04:08,762 --be/ie we in-- 989 01:04:08,846 --> 01:04:12,349 Maybe. Open your eyes and see 990 01:04:12,432 --> 01:04:15,185 He's living on borrowed time, man. You're on the verge of a miracle 991 01:04:15,269 --> 01:04:20,899 ?? 992 01:04:20,983 --> 01:04:28,115 The love that seemed so far away 993 01:04:28,198 --> 01:04:35,581 L' Is standing very near L' 994 01:04:35,664 --> 01:04:38,876 You're on the verge of a miracle 995 01:04:38,959 --> 01:04:42,546 Standing there Oh 996 01:04:42,629 --> 01:04:45,257 J3 You're on the verge of a miracle J3 997 01:04:45,340 --> 01:04:49,636 J3 Just waiting to be believed in J? 998 01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:53,932 L' Open your eyes and see L' 999 01:04:54,016 --> 01:04:57,769 J You're on the verge of a miracle 1000 01:04:57,853 --> 01:05:02,065 DD 1001 01:05:11,533 --> 01:05:13,619 What is that? Is that new? 1002 01:05:13,702 --> 01:05:15,913 Yeah, it's something new I've been kind of playing around with 1003 01:05:15,954 --> 01:05:18,749 but so far no lyrics. 1004 01:05:18,790 --> 01:05:20,334 I like it. 1005 01:05:20,417 --> 01:05:22,169 Yeah, it's cool. 1006 01:05:22,252 --> 01:05:24,755 This is what I like about being on the road, man. 1007 01:05:24,838 --> 01:05:28,300 I mean, for all the things I hate, this is what I love. 1008 01:05:28,383 --> 01:05:29,843 Having you here, on the open road, 1009 01:05:29,927 --> 01:05:31,678 look at the sky, 1010 01:05:31,762 --> 01:05:32,679 I mean, it's just-- 1011 01:05:32,763 --> 01:05:34,348 Awesome. 1012 01:06:04,002 --> 01:06:05,295 Morning, Rich. 1013 01:06:05,379 --> 01:06:07,214 Bryan. 1014 01:06:07,297 --> 01:06:09,132 How was your retreat? 1015 01:06:09,216 --> 01:06:10,467 Don't start. I said I was going to go. 1016 01:06:10,550 --> 01:06:12,094 What am I supposed to do? 1017 01:06:12,177 --> 01:06:13,470 Don't walk away from me. 1018 01:06:13,553 --> 01:06:15,180 Rich! 1019 01:06:15,263 --> 01:06:17,099 That's what you said about that one retreat. 1020 01:06:17,182 --> 01:06:19,643 But every other week it's something else. 1021 01:06:19,685 --> 01:06:21,186 A retreat, a camp, 1022 01:06:21,269 --> 01:06:23,063 a small church in Michigan-- 1023 01:06:23,146 --> 01:06:25,148 You're a recording artist now, Rich, 1024 01:06:25,232 --> 01:06:27,317 you don't have take time to-- What do you want me to do? 1025 01:06:27,401 --> 01:06:29,861 I want you in my office, that's what I want. 1026 01:06:31,321 --> 01:06:32,531 Sit down. 1027 01:06:32,614 --> 01:06:34,032 No, I'm good. 1028 01:06:34,116 --> 01:06:35,826 Yeah, you're good. 1029 01:06:35,909 --> 01:06:37,995 Well, you're not as good as you think, Rich. 1030 01:06:38,078 --> 01:06:40,205 All this talking you've been doing at your concerts, 1031 01:06:40,288 --> 01:06:42,833 that's got to stop! Okay? 1032 01:06:42,874 --> 01:06:45,961 People are paying to hear you sing, not to hear you talk. 1033 01:06:46,044 --> 01:06:47,170 You understand that? 1034 01:06:47,254 --> 01:06:48,839 No, no. No. 1035 01:06:48,922 --> 01:06:50,590 You're there to make fans, not enemies. 1036 01:06:50,674 --> 01:06:52,259 What can I say? That's what happens 1037 01:06:52,342 --> 01:06:54,136 when you're honest with religious people. 1038 01:06:54,219 --> 01:06:56,263 Well, those religious people are paying your bills 1039 01:06:56,346 --> 01:06:58,849 and they're not going to keep buying your records if you keep-- 1040 01:06:58,890 --> 01:07:00,392 Pissing them off? 1041 01:07:00,475 --> 01:07:03,687 Are we done? 1042 01:07:03,729 --> 01:07:06,898 No. 1043 01:07:06,982 --> 01:07:09,901 Look, we've got a record to put out 1044 01:07:09,985 --> 01:07:11,361 and the last one still isn't selling. 1045 01:07:11,403 --> 01:07:13,363 Do you--? 1046 01:07:13,405 --> 01:07:16,074 You understand that, right? 1047 01:07:16,158 --> 01:07:17,409 I thought it was selling. 1048 01:07:17,492 --> 01:07:19,202 Not as much as we'd hoped. 1049 01:07:19,286 --> 01:07:21,204 What do you want me to do? 1050 01:07:21,288 --> 01:07:24,624 Your contract is up after this, Rich. 1051 01:07:24,708 --> 01:07:27,711 If your records don't start selling, 1052 01:07:27,794 --> 01:07:29,379 it's over. 1053 01:07:29,421 --> 01:07:31,339 You think I give a damn about that? 1054 01:07:36,178 --> 01:07:38,221 No, I don't. 1055 01:07:41,892 --> 01:07:45,395 It's disrespectful. 1056 01:07:45,437 --> 01:07:47,814 It's disrespectful to me, 1057 01:07:47,898 --> 01:07:49,232 this label, 1058 01:07:49,274 --> 01:07:51,568 more importantly, Rich, 1059 01:07:51,651 --> 01:07:53,320 it's disrespectful to God 1060 01:07:53,403 --> 01:07:54,738 who gave you all of this ability 1061 01:07:54,821 --> 01:07:58,075 and all of this opportunity. 1062 01:07:58,158 --> 01:08:02,662 You think you're so righteous, huh? 1063 01:08:02,746 --> 01:08:06,166 Now you try to throw everything away 1064 01:08:06,249 --> 01:08:08,001 because you have some idea about holiness 1065 01:08:08,085 --> 01:08:10,087 but you want to know what I think? Hm. 1066 01:08:10,170 --> 01:08:11,838 Oh, yeah, you keep laughing, you keep laughing. 1067 01:08:11,922 --> 01:08:14,424 You know what I think? I think you're scared. 1068 01:08:18,011 --> 01:08:21,932 Time's running out, Rich. 1069 01:08:22,015 --> 01:08:24,226 God might wait for you, but this label won't. 1070 01:08:29,606 --> 01:08:32,567 And don't ever disrespect me like that again. 1071 01:08:50,460 --> 01:08:52,295 What do you want from me? 1072 01:09:19,531 --> 01:09:21,366 What's that? 1073 01:09:38,675 --> 01:09:42,846 Rich Mullins is mowing our lawn. 1074 01:09:42,888 --> 01:09:44,347 Oh. 1075 01:09:49,352 --> 01:09:50,770 Honey? 1076 01:09:50,854 --> 01:09:52,522 Yeah? 1077 01:09:52,564 --> 01:09:55,400 Why is Rich Mullins mowing our lawn? 1078 01:10:00,322 --> 01:10:02,699 To say he's sorry. 1079 01:10:02,741 --> 01:10:04,034 Hm. 1080 01:10:34,731 --> 01:10:38,068 J Our God, our God is an awesome God J 1081 01:10:38,151 --> 01:10:41,821 J He reigns from heaven above 1082 01:10:41,905 --> 01:10:44,908 J3 With wisdom, power, and love J7 1083 01:10:44,950 --> 01:10:48,578 J Our God is an awesome God J 1084 01:10:50,747 --> 01:10:53,500 You're on the radio! 1085 01:10:53,583 --> 01:10:56,795 I know. 1086 01:10:56,878 --> 01:10:58,463 I knew you were special. 1087 01:11:00,006 --> 01:11:02,008 Hurry UP! 1088 01:11:02,092 --> 01:11:03,635 I don't even care if we're late. 1089 01:11:03,718 --> 01:11:04,678 I just want to hang out with you guys. 1090 01:11:04,761 --> 01:11:06,846 See this? 1091 01:11:06,930 --> 01:11:08,056 Uh-huh. 1092 01:11:08,139 --> 01:11:09,057 It's really nice, man. 1093 01:11:09,140 --> 01:11:10,684 How's Morris? 1094 01:11:10,767 --> 01:11:13,520 Oh. Well, you should live in Wichita. 1095 01:11:13,603 --> 01:11:15,355 He's retired now. 1096 01:11:15,438 --> 01:11:16,982 You can hang out with him as much as you want. 1097 01:11:17,065 --> 01:11:18,358 That'd be awesome, yeah. 1098 01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:21,653 Are you doing okay? 1099 01:11:23,154 --> 01:11:24,364 No. 1100 01:11:24,447 --> 01:11:25,991 What's up? 1101 01:11:26,074 --> 01:11:29,327 I've been drinking a lot. 1102 01:11:29,411 --> 01:11:31,621 I hate myself for it. I really do. 1103 01:11:31,663 --> 01:11:33,707 Don't do that. 1104 01:11:33,790 --> 01:11:35,125 The drinking? 1105 01:11:35,166 --> 01:11:37,377 No, the hating. 1106 01:11:37,460 --> 01:11:40,463 You know what? You should probably figure out the drinking, too. 1107 01:11:40,547 --> 01:11:42,465 Yeah. 1108 01:11:42,549 --> 01:11:45,135 He's on more than one radio station at the same time! 1109 01:11:46,636 --> 01:11:48,596 You guys, seriously hurry up! 1110 01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:50,348 Dude, I can't believe you kept this in a desk for so long. 1111 01:11:52,142 --> 01:11:53,643 You could've had this hit big a year ago. 1112 01:11:53,685 --> 01:11:55,395 Don't get me wrong, I'm excited. 1113 01:11:55,478 --> 01:11:58,815 I just don't think I can handle this. 1114 01:11:58,898 --> 01:12:01,818 We got a long road ahead of us. 1115 01:12:01,901 --> 01:12:03,320 Let's go! 1116 01:12:03,403 --> 01:12:05,488 We're here, guys. 1117 01:12:05,572 --> 01:12:07,657 I wonder if you'll have a big crowd tonight. 1118 01:12:12,203 --> 01:12:14,289 I think yes. 1119 01:12:14,372 --> 01:12:15,749 What? 1120 01:12:15,832 --> 01:12:17,334 Don't blow it. 1121 01:12:17,375 --> 01:12:21,254 Ohhh, you guys-' 1122 01:12:29,679 --> 01:12:31,431 Ow! Whoa, whoa, whoa. 1123 01:12:31,514 --> 01:12:33,641 You people cannot be back here without a ticket. 1124 01:12:33,725 --> 01:12:35,560 No, no, I'm Rich. 1125 01:12:35,643 --> 01:12:36,770 I don't care how much money you got. Buy a ticket. 1126 01:12:36,853 --> 01:12:38,021 No, he's the singer! 1127 01:12:38,063 --> 01:12:39,856 Oh! Oh! 1128 01:12:39,898 --> 01:12:41,858 No problem! Go ahead, go ahead. Thanks, man. 1129 01:12:41,941 --> 01:12:43,860 Hey, just so you know it, you hurt me. 1130 01:12:43,902 --> 01:12:46,029 Why don't you just man up? 1131 01:12:46,071 --> 01:12:48,281 No, my feelings. 1132 01:12:48,365 --> 01:12:50,450 Ladies and gentlemen, 1133 01:12:50,533 --> 01:12:53,703 please welcome Rich Mullins! 1134 01:13:00,043 --> 01:13:02,379 Welcome to being famous. 1135 01:13:21,898 --> 01:13:23,900 Hi, I'm Rich Mullins. 1136 01:13:23,942 --> 01:13:25,276 DD 1137 01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:26,403 Now let's get this over with. 1138 01:13:26,444 --> 01:13:27,821 DD 1139 01:13:27,904 --> 01:13:31,574 B Our God 'vs an awesome God D 1140 01:13:31,616 --> 01:13:34,411 J3 He reigns from heaven above J3 1141 01:13:34,452 --> 01:13:38,331 J3 With wisdom, power, and love J3 1142 01:13:38,415 --> 01:13:41,251 B Our God 'vs an awesome God D 1143 01:13:41,334 --> 01:13:44,838 67 Our God is an awesome God 1144 01:13:44,921 --> 01:13:48,425 J He reigns from heaven above 1145 01:13:48,508 --> 01:13:52,262 J3 With wisdom, power, and love J3 1146 01:13:52,345 --> 01:13:56,808 B Our God 'vs an awesome God DD 1147 01:13:56,891 --> 01:14:00,103 You know, I've come to think 1148 01:14:00,145 --> 01:14:03,606 that to identify fully with Christ, 1149 01:14:03,648 --> 01:14:07,193 who I claim to be my Saviour and my Lord, 1150 01:14:07,277 --> 01:14:13,283 that to fully identify with Him is to identify with the poor. 1151 01:14:13,366 --> 01:14:16,870 Christianity is not about finding an absolutely secure niche in the world 1152 01:14:16,953 --> 01:14:19,038 where you can live with your perfect little wife 1153 01:14:19,122 --> 01:14:21,374 and your perfect little kids in your beautiful little house 1154 01:14:21,458 --> 01:14:26,004 where there are no gays or minority groups around. 1155 01:14:26,087 --> 01:14:31,634 Christianity is about learning how to love like Jesus 1156 01:14:31,676 --> 01:14:33,887 and Jesus loved the poor and Jesus loved the broken. 1157 01:14:37,307 --> 01:14:40,310 I knew that not everyone appreciated what I had to say. 1158 01:14:40,351 --> 01:14:43,146 But I didn't really care. 1159 01:14:43,229 --> 01:14:45,231 Awesome God became the number one song 1160 01:14:45,315 --> 01:14:48,318 in Christian radio the week it released in 1988 1161 01:14:48,359 --> 01:14:50,820 or so they told me. 1162 01:14:50,904 --> 01:14:52,405 So the concert venues got bigger, 1163 01:14:52,489 --> 01:14:54,741 the crowds got louder, 1164 01:14:54,824 --> 01:14:58,036 Man' and Bryan were a little biz' nicer to me. 1165 01:14:58,119 --> 01:15:00,079 But at the end of the day, 1166 01:15:00,163 --> 01:15:01,748 I mean, the fame, the money, the attention, 1167 01:15:01,831 --> 01:15:03,750 it just didn't mean much to me. 1168 01:15:06,336 --> 01:15:08,880 In fact, I got sick of it pretty fast. 1169 01:15:31,402 --> 01:15:35,240 Life on the road had taken its toll on me. 1170 01:15:35,323 --> 01:15:38,952 One thing became painfully obvious. 1171 01:15:39,035 --> 01:15:40,578 I needed a change. 1172 01:15:47,210 --> 01:15:50,046 Look, here he comes, hey, hey. 1173 01:15:50,129 --> 01:15:52,966 Yes! There he is! Man of the hour! 1174 01:15:53,049 --> 01:15:55,385 Yeah, I bet you thought this day would never come, huh? 1175 01:15:55,468 --> 01:15:57,637 Hoped it would never come, actually. 1176 01:15:57,720 --> 01:15:59,472 We got some great news. 1177 01:15:59,556 --> 01:16:01,474 We got you booked solid for the next six months. 1178 01:16:01,558 --> 01:16:03,643 No more little church gigs or youth camps. 1179 01:16:03,726 --> 01:16:05,770 And you're no longer an opening act, Rich. 1180 01:16:05,853 --> 01:16:07,897 From now on, this town's going to be begging to open for you. 1181 01:16:07,981 --> 01:16:10,233 Not only that. You can finally afford a proper tour bus. 1182 01:16:10,316 --> 01:16:11,859 Yeah, you're ready, Rich. 1183 01:16:11,943 --> 01:16:14,112 Everything is changed. Yeah. 1184 01:16:16,406 --> 01:16:17,907 I'm moving to Wichita. 1185 01:16:20,201 --> 01:16:22,078 Yeah, okay, Rich. 1186 01:16:22,161 --> 01:16:23,997 No, I'm serious. I'm moving to Wichita. 1187 01:16:26,791 --> 01:16:30,378 But you're finally on top. 1188 01:16:30,461 --> 01:16:33,089 If you leave now, you risk losing everything. 1189 01:16:33,131 --> 01:16:37,677 I don't know if I'm concerned about it either way. 1190 01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:41,180 Look, I've seen you. I know you like those new toys. 1191 01:16:41,264 --> 01:16:44,434 I just saw you on that new motorcycle, right? Huh? 1192 01:16:45,685 --> 01:16:47,520 Rich, come on. 1193 01:16:47,604 --> 01:16:49,272 You know what the problem is? 1194 01:16:49,355 --> 01:16:52,859 I hadn't seen myself on that new motorcycle. 1195 01:16:52,942 --> 01:16:54,777 Here, you guys can have it. 1196 01:16:54,861 --> 01:16:56,070 I don't even want it. 1197 01:16:57,655 --> 01:16:59,073 Rich! 1198 01:17:06,831 --> 01:17:09,125 You know what a person is that doesn't want anything 1199 01:17:09,208 --> 01:17:11,961 and doesn't fear anybody? 1200 01:17:12,045 --> 01:17:15,131 What? 1201 01:17:15,214 --> 01:17:16,966 Dangerous. 1202 01:17:25,975 --> 01:17:27,644 Rich? 1203 01:17:27,685 --> 01:17:28,645 Can I help you? 1204 01:17:28,728 --> 01:17:31,189 Um, I'm Justin. 1205 01:17:31,272 --> 01:17:34,150 Holy cow! Good to see you, man! 1206 01:17:34,192 --> 01:17:35,652 It's been a while. 1207 01:17:35,735 --> 01:17:37,528 You remember me? Yeah, absolutely. 1208 01:17:37,612 --> 01:17:39,405 I hope you don't mind I got-- No, not at all. 1209 01:17:39,489 --> 01:17:41,115 You kind of picked the worst possible time. 1210 01:17:41,199 --> 01:17:42,659 I'm literally just getting ready to leave 1211 01:17:42,742 --> 01:17:44,160 but if you need a place to crash 1212 01:17:44,202 --> 01:17:45,870 you know, it's yours. 1213 01:17:45,953 --> 01:17:47,330 Where are you going? 1214 01:17:47,413 --> 01:17:49,666 I'm moving to Wichita, actually. 1215 01:17:49,707 --> 01:17:51,417 Oh. 1216 01:17:51,501 --> 01:17:53,378 What are you doing in Nashville anyway? 1217 01:17:53,461 --> 01:17:56,547 Looking for a job. 1218 01:17:56,631 --> 01:18:00,218 I'll tell you what, if you want a crappy job, you can come join the band. Really? 1219 01:18:00,301 --> 01:18:02,095 Yeah. Sure, why not? 1220 01:18:02,178 --> 01:18:04,013 You're just going to let me join the band? Yeah! 1221 01:18:04,055 --> 01:18:05,765 Awesome. Come in. 1222 01:18:05,848 --> 01:18:07,350 Let's get this crappy job started. 1223 01:18:07,433 --> 01:18:08,768 Here, take that to the jeep, will you? 1224 01:18:12,939 --> 01:18:14,857 It turns out Justin is just as broken as I was 1225 01:18:14,899 --> 01:18:17,860 when he landed on my doorstep. 1226 01:18:17,902 --> 01:18:20,196 That was one of the many things we had in common. 1227 01:18:20,238 --> 01:18:23,449 Along with enjoying Aaron Copeland and road trips 1228 01:18:23,533 --> 01:18:25,118 broken relationships with our fathers, 1229 01:18:25,201 --> 01:18:27,120 and greasy truck stop food, 1230 01:18:27,203 --> 01:18:29,122 stale motel lobby coffee, 1231 01:18:29,205 --> 01:18:31,374 it goes on and on. 1232 01:18:31,457 --> 01:18:33,543 And more than anything, 1233 01:18:33,626 --> 01:18:35,294 if was just' nice to have a friend on the road. 1234 01:18:35,378 --> 01:18:37,296 So what? You want to be like Saint Frank? 1235 01:18:37,380 --> 01:18:41,926 It's not about being like Saint Francis necessarily, 1236 01:18:42,009 --> 01:18:43,386 it's about following Jesus, 1237 01:18:43,469 --> 01:18:44,804 it's about being like Christ. 1238 01:18:44,887 --> 01:18:47,390 I mean, how do you do that? 1239 01:18:47,432 --> 01:18:48,891 I'm not good at being perfect. 1240 01:18:48,975 --> 01:18:51,894 But it's not about being perfect. 1241 01:18:51,978 --> 01:18:53,980 Look at Saint Francis. 1242 01:18:54,063 --> 01:18:55,815 He took vows. He took a vow of chastity, 1243 01:18:55,898 --> 01:18:58,109 he took a vow of poverty, 1244 01:18:58,192 --> 01:18:59,736 a vow of obedience. 1245 01:18:59,819 --> 01:19:01,738 I think that's what we're really missing. 1246 01:19:01,821 --> 01:19:05,825 That's what I want to do. 1247 01:19:05,908 --> 01:19:07,493 I think I want to start living 1248 01:19:07,577 --> 01:19:09,412 on whatever the average American salary is. 1249 01:19:09,454 --> 01:19:12,248 Whatever the average American worker makes. 1250 01:19:12,331 --> 01:19:14,083 Says the man making millions. 1251 01:19:14,167 --> 01:19:16,252 Who cares? 1252 01:19:16,335 --> 01:19:18,963 Money destroys people, man. 1253 01:19:19,046 --> 01:19:20,965 Money doesn't have to destroy people. 1254 01:19:23,926 --> 01:19:25,344 Well, it's destroying me. 1255 01:19:34,020 --> 01:19:36,022 You moved to Wichita, Kansas 1256 01:19:36,105 --> 01:19:39,108 to go back to college at Friends University 1257 01:19:39,150 --> 01:19:41,027 and do I have this right 1258 01:19:41,110 --> 01:19:43,321 that you went to get a music education degree? 1259 01:19:43,404 --> 01:19:45,114 No, I mean, yeah. 1260 01:19:45,198 --> 01:19:46,949 It's true that I went to get a music degree. 1261 01:19:46,991 --> 01:19:49,118 I wanted to be able to teach kids 1262 01:19:49,202 --> 01:19:51,621 but the real reason I went back to Wichita was Morris. 1263 01:19:57,543 --> 01:20:03,341 I thought maybe being around him may make me walk a little straighter. 1264 01:20:03,424 --> 01:20:05,176 To be honest, it's the closest thing to home 1265 01:20:05,259 --> 01:20:06,928 I've found in a long, long time. 1266 01:20:29,492 --> 01:20:30,535 What' up, man? I'm Rich. 1267 01:20:30,618 --> 01:20:32,203 Hey, I'm Mitch. 1268 01:20:32,286 --> 01:20:33,329 Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. 1269 01:20:33,371 --> 01:20:34,831 Nice guitar. 1270 01:20:34,914 --> 01:20:36,582 Yeah. Thanks. 1271 01:20:36,666 --> 01:20:37,667 I'm just starting out. 1272 01:20:37,750 --> 01:20:39,335 Sweet. 1273 01:20:39,418 --> 01:20:41,379 This is James Bryan Smith's class, right? 1274 01:20:41,462 --> 01:20:43,506 Yeah. What, you weren't here last week? 1275 01:20:43,548 --> 01:20:45,341 No, no, I was bummed. I had to miss it. 1276 01:20:45,383 --> 01:20:47,718 I was actually in Ireland. 1277 01:20:47,802 --> 01:20:51,180 And Ireland's incredible so I wasn't really that bummed to be honest but-- 1278 01:20:51,264 --> 01:20:54,559 Yeah. You're seeing friends, family? 1279 01:20:54,642 --> 01:20:57,854 Actually I was shooting a music video. 1280 01:20:57,937 --> 01:20:59,981 It's not as cool as it seems. 1281 01:21:00,064 --> 01:21:01,691 Hey, everyone. 1282 01:21:01,774 --> 01:21:05,444 Glad to see you all made it back to class. 1283 01:21:05,528 --> 01:21:07,113 Can I help you? 1284 01:21:07,196 --> 01:21:10,366 This is Intro to Religion, right? Yes. 1285 01:21:10,408 --> 01:21:12,410 What's your name? Do you have a student ID? 1286 01:21:12,493 --> 01:21:14,036 Uh, my name is Rich Mullins. 1287 01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:16,873 I'm not sure about the student ID. 1288 01:21:16,956 --> 01:21:18,374 The Rich Mullins? 1289 01:21:18,457 --> 01:21:19,959 Awesome God guy. 1290 01:21:20,042 --> 01:21:21,961 I do have other songs. 1291 01:21:22,044 --> 01:21:24,463 All right, and you're taking this class? 1292 01:21:24,547 --> 01:21:26,215 Yeah. 1293 01:21:26,299 --> 01:21:28,134 Why? 1294 01:21:28,217 --> 01:21:29,844 I was hoping you would tell me that part. 1295 01:21:29,927 --> 01:21:31,721 Yeah, okay, sorry. 1296 01:21:31,804 --> 01:21:34,056 Glad to have you, Rich. 1297 01:21:34,140 --> 01:21:38,269 Everyone, take out your copies of G.K. Chesterton's Orthodoxy. 1298 01:21:55,786 --> 01:21:57,413 Good morning. 1299 01:21:57,455 --> 01:21:59,916 Yes, it is. Barely. 1300 01:22:01,918 --> 01:22:03,753 I think this is the earliest I've seen you, man. 1301 01:22:03,836 --> 01:22:05,338 Good job. 1302 01:22:05,421 --> 01:22:08,007 That's funny. Justin up? 1303 01:22:08,090 --> 01:22:09,926 Well, I haven't seen him down by the coffee pot 1304 01:22:10,009 --> 01:22:13,137 so chances are he's not up yet. 1305 01:22:13,220 --> 01:22:14,931 Sam called. Oh, yeah? 1306 01:22:15,014 --> 01:22:16,974 Said hi, yeah. 1307 01:22:17,058 --> 01:22:19,602 Does he, uh, got the beard going these days? 1308 01:22:19,644 --> 01:22:21,270 Uh, no. He's on a diet. 1309 01:22:26,943 --> 01:22:28,402 So you call your dad yet? 1310 01:22:33,366 --> 01:22:37,536 Why should I, Morris? 1311 01:22:37,620 --> 01:22:42,124 I don't know the history between you guys-- 1312 01:22:42,166 --> 01:22:45,127 but if you're blessed enough to have a dad to call, 1313 01:22:45,211 --> 01:22:47,505 you should call him. 1314 01:22:47,588 --> 01:22:51,634 You've been more of a father to me these last three months. 1315 01:22:51,676 --> 01:22:53,386 Yeah, but I'm not your dad. 1316 01:22:53,469 --> 01:22:56,222 I am your friend. 1317 01:22:56,305 --> 01:22:58,724 And as your friend, I'm telling you... 1318 01:22:58,808 --> 01:22:59,809 Call your dad. 1319 01:23:29,005 --> 01:23:30,339 Morris, you okay? 1320 01:23:31,632 --> 01:23:33,092 Morris 1321 01:23:33,175 --> 01:23:34,844 Hey, hey, hey, hey! Hey, Morris! 1322 01:23:34,927 --> 01:23:37,221 Morris! Hey, talk to me, buddy. Talk to me. 1323 01:23:37,304 --> 01:23:39,515 Morris! 1324 01:23:39,557 --> 01:23:41,017 Mo--Help! 1325 01:23:41,100 --> 01:23:42,393 Morris! Hey, hey, come on, come on. 1326 01:23:42,476 --> 01:23:44,103 Justin! Doris! 1327 01:23:44,186 --> 01:23:46,731 Call an ambulance! 1328 01:23:46,814 --> 01:23:49,817 Oh, my God. Don't leave me. 1329 01:23:49,900 --> 01:23:52,695 Don't leave me. 1330 01:23:52,778 --> 01:23:54,947 Don't leave me. 1331 01:23:55,031 --> 01:23:56,198 Morris! 1332 01:23:56,240 --> 01:23:58,200 Don't leave me! 1333 01:23:58,284 --> 01:24:00,619 Help! Help_ 1334 01:24:48,501 --> 01:24:50,002 I'm sorry, I'm sorry. 1335 01:24:50,086 --> 01:24:51,462 Everything's fine. I'm sorry. 1336 01:24:51,545 --> 01:24:52,922 Everything's fine. 1337 01:24:52,963 --> 01:24:55,508 Everything's fine, I'm sorry. 1338 01:24:55,591 --> 01:24:57,927 Everything's fine. Rich'? 1339 01:24:57,968 --> 01:25:00,262 Sam! Are you drunk? 1340 01:25:00,346 --> 01:25:06,143 Shhh. I don't want anyone to know. 1341 01:25:06,227 --> 01:25:09,188 Everyone knows. 1342 01:25:09,271 --> 01:25:10,314 Can I talk to you outside? 1343 01:25:23,327 --> 01:25:24,411 Look, man-- 1344 01:25:27,790 --> 01:25:29,500 you got to understand. People in my family 1345 01:25:29,583 --> 01:25:31,085 don't come to these things sober. 1346 01:25:37,049 --> 01:25:40,719 Sam, I'm sorry. 1347 01:25:40,803 --> 01:25:42,054 He was like a father to me. 1348 01:25:48,561 --> 01:25:49,895 He wasn't your dad. 1349 01:25:57,945 --> 01:25:59,029 He was mine. 1350 01:26:36,025 --> 01:26:38,194 You're not going to hit me, are you? 1351 01:26:40,571 --> 01:26:43,199 No. 1352 01:26:43,282 --> 01:26:44,283 Well-- 1353 01:26:44,366 --> 01:26:46,619 probably not. 1354 01:26:46,702 --> 01:26:49,914 But if I would, you would deserve it. 1355 01:26:49,997 --> 01:26:52,708 Yeah, I would. I do. 1356 01:26:55,878 --> 01:26:58,714 Now what? 1357 01:26:58,797 --> 01:27:01,300 I was thinking the same thing. 1358 01:27:01,383 --> 01:27:06,889 You sticking around Wichita? 1359 01:27:06,931 --> 01:27:12,645 You know I left Nashville to be with your dad. 1360 01:27:12,728 --> 01:27:15,314 Okay, Richard. 1361 01:27:15,397 --> 01:27:17,066 So now what are you going to do? 1362 01:27:19,401 --> 01:27:20,903 I don't know. 1363 01:27:20,986 --> 01:27:22,446 What would you tell somebody 1364 01:27:22,529 --> 01:27:24,073 in your exact situation? 1365 01:27:24,156 --> 01:27:25,908 And I know you know the answer to this. 1366 01:27:25,950 --> 01:27:27,534 If I was talking to somebody else, 1367 01:27:27,618 --> 01:27:29,203 I'd give them the Sunday School answer. 1368 01:27:29,286 --> 01:27:30,663 And what is wrong with that? 1369 01:27:30,746 --> 01:27:33,666 My dad was a-- 1370 01:27:33,749 --> 01:27:36,460 My dad was a Sunday School teacher 1371 01:27:36,543 --> 01:27:38,254 for 20 years. 1372 01:27:38,337 --> 01:27:40,756 If there's one thing that I learned from him, 1373 01:27:40,839 --> 01:27:43,008 I learned that sometimes the Sunday School answers 1374 01:27:43,092 --> 01:27:45,844 are exactly the right ones. 1375 01:27:45,928 --> 01:27:46,971 So what is it? 1376 01:27:50,266 --> 01:27:54,311 That God loves you even when you don't feel it but-- Exactly. 1377 01:27:54,395 --> 01:27:55,771 Exactly. 1378 01:27:55,854 --> 01:27:57,856 But the truth is I don't get it. 1379 01:27:57,940 --> 01:28:00,442 Even when I'm supposed to know it, I just don't feel it. 1380 01:28:00,484 --> 01:28:04,363 So, what do you know? What do you feel? 1381 01:28:06,031 --> 01:28:09,201 I feel broken. 1382 01:28:09,285 --> 01:28:12,496 The only thing that makes me feel...good 1383 01:28:12,579 --> 01:28:14,999 is not pretending otherwise. 1384 01:28:15,082 --> 01:28:18,711 Well, I think that's a good place to start. 1385 01:28:22,965 --> 01:28:27,219 You know we're going to be okay, right? 1386 01:28:27,303 --> 01:28:28,804 We're going to be okay. 1387 01:28:32,683 --> 01:28:34,560 I hope so. 1388 01:29:01,670 --> 01:29:04,214 Losing Morris was devastating. 1389 01:29:04,298 --> 01:29:06,008 And left me at another crossroads 1390 01:29:06,091 --> 01:29:08,761 in my life. 1391 01:29:08,844 --> 01:29:10,929 I came to Wichita to find myself, 1392 01:29:11,013 --> 01:29:15,768 only to leave feeling just' as lost' as I had before. 1393 01:29:15,851 --> 01:29:18,437 I set out on the road again with Justin, 1394 01:29:18,520 --> 01:29:19,897 not really sure where I was headed. 1395 01:29:27,988 --> 01:29:30,574 Hey, Rich. 1396 01:29:30,657 --> 01:29:32,034 Where were you? 1397 01:29:32,076 --> 01:29:34,119 I was just getting some food. 1398 01:29:34,203 --> 01:29:37,581 Don't go anywhere without telling me where you're going. Okay? 1399 01:29:37,664 --> 01:29:39,458 Okay. Is everything all right? 1400 01:29:39,541 --> 01:29:41,627 I was just'- - I don't need you to talk. 1401 01:29:41,710 --> 01:29:44,213 Just, if you're going somewhere, tell me where you're going. 1402 01:29:44,296 --> 01:29:46,799 Okay? Or take me with you. 1403 01:29:46,882 --> 01:29:48,717 Okay, but-- Damn it. 1404 01:29:55,057 --> 01:29:57,935 Hey, Can I may YOU a tape? 1405 01:29:58,018 --> 01:29:59,561 What is it? 1406 01:29:59,645 --> 01:30:01,897 There's this preacher. 1407 01:30:01,939 --> 01:30:04,942 You should know better than to even ask me to listen to a preacher. 1408 01:30:05,025 --> 01:30:06,777 Just give it ten minutes. 1409 01:30:15,661 --> 01:30:18,080 In the 33 years since I was first ambushed 1410 01:30:18,122 --> 01:30:19,915 by Jesus in a little chapel 1411 01:30:19,957 --> 01:30:22,835 in the mountains of western Pennsylvania, 1412 01:30:22,918 --> 01:30:27,464 and the literally thousands of hours of prayer and meditation, 1413 01:30:27,548 --> 01:30:31,510 silence, solitude in those years, 1414 01:30:31,593 --> 01:30:35,097 I am now utterly convinced 1415 01:30:35,139 --> 01:30:37,349 that on Judgment Day 1416 01:30:37,433 --> 01:30:43,689 the Lord Jesus will ask one question and only one question, 1417 01:30:43,772 --> 01:30:45,732 Did you believe that I loved you? 1418 01:30:48,193 --> 01:30:51,196 That I desired you? 1419 01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:56,034 That I waited for you day after day? 1420 01:30:56,118 --> 01:31:00,956 That I longed to hear the sound of your voice? 1421 01:31:00,998 --> 01:31:03,959 The real believers will respond and say, 1422 01:31:04,001 --> 01:31:06,295 I believed in your love, 1423 01:31:06,378 --> 01:31:10,632 and I tried to shape my life as a response to it. 1424 01:31:10,716 --> 01:31:14,094 But many of us who are so faithful in our ministry, 1425 01:31:14,178 --> 01:31:17,723 our practice, church going, 1426 01:31:17,806 --> 01:31:19,308 are going to answer 1427 01:31:19,391 --> 01:31:22,519 Well, frankly, no sir. 1428 01:31:22,603 --> 01:31:25,856 I never really believed it. 1429 01:31:25,939 --> 01:31:29,234 And there's the difference between the real believers 1430 01:31:29,318 --> 01:31:32,988 and the nominal Christians that abound in our churches across the land. 1431 01:31:33,030 --> 01:31:36,033 No one can measure like a believer 1432 01:31:36,116 --> 01:31:39,244 the depth and intensity of God's love. 1433 01:31:39,328 --> 01:31:41,038 But' then again, no one can measure like a believer 1434 01:31:41,121 --> 01:31:43,582 the effectiveness of our gloom, our pessimism, 1435 01:31:43,665 --> 01:31:47,252 our low self-esteem, our self-hatred and despair 1436 01:31:47,336 --> 01:31:50,339 that block God's way to us. 1437 01:31:50,380 --> 01:31:52,216 Do you see now why it's so important 1438 01:31:52,299 --> 01:31:55,761 to lay hold of this basic truth of our faith? 1439 01:31:55,844 --> 01:32:00,766 Because you're only going to be as big as your own concept of God. 1440 01:32:00,849 --> 01:32:02,351 We make God in our own image 1441 01:32:02,434 --> 01:32:05,354 and he winds up being as fussy and rude 1442 01:32:05,395 --> 01:32:08,023 and narrow-minded and judgmental andlegahsfic 1443 01:32:08,065 --> 01:32:11,401 and unloving and unforgiving as we are. 1444 01:32:11,485 --> 01:32:15,197 I've been in churches in Bangor, Maine, Miami, Seattle, 1445 01:32:15,280 --> 01:32:18,283 San Diego, and Saint Louis, and honest to God 1446 01:32:18,367 --> 01:32:22,746 if so many Christians I meet is too small for me. 1447 01:32:22,829 --> 01:32:24,915 Because he is not the God of the Word. 1448 01:32:24,998 --> 01:32:28,418 He is not the God who is revealed in and by Jesus Christ, 1449 01:32:28,502 --> 01:32:31,964 who at this moment comes to your seat and says, 1450 01:32:32,047 --> 01:32:35,050 I have a word for you. 1451 01:32:35,092 --> 01:32:37,719 I know your whole life story. 1452 01:32:37,803 --> 01:32:39,763 I know e very skeleton in your closet. 1453 01:32:39,846 --> 01:32:42,766 I know every moment of sin and shame and dishonesty 1454 01:32:42,849 --> 01:32:45,811 and degraded love that's darkened your past. 1455 01:32:45,894 --> 01:32:49,940 Right now, I know your shallow faith, your feeble prayer life, 1456 01:32:50,023 --> 01:32:52,776 your inconsistent discipleship, 1457 01:32:52,859 --> 01:32:56,321 and my word to you is this. 1458 01:32:56,405 --> 01:32:59,575 I dare you to trust that I love you. 1459 01:33:01,743 --> 01:33:03,912 Just as you are. 1460 01:33:03,954 --> 01:33:05,998 Not as you should be. 1461 01:33:08,458 --> 01:33:11,461 Because none of us are as we should be. 1462 01:33:15,173 --> 01:33:18,510 Whoa, what's up? Are you all right? 1463 01:33:20,262 --> 01:33:23,640 Rich. 1464 01:33:23,724 --> 01:33:24,766 Rich? 1465 01:33:51,251 --> 01:33:53,462 You know, Brennan, I've been going to church 1466 01:33:53,545 --> 01:33:57,382 since I was less than a week old. 1467 01:33:57,466 --> 01:34:01,511 I can count on one hand how many times I've heard the simple proclamation 1468 01:34:01,595 --> 01:34:04,973 of what the Gospel is really about. 1469 01:34:05,015 --> 01:34:08,310 There are very few things I love more than beer. 1470 01:34:08,352 --> 01:34:11,355 Hot fudge sundae is one of them. 1471 01:34:11,438 --> 01:34:14,149 Beer, huh'? Mm-hm. 1472 01:34:14,191 --> 01:34:16,818 Yeah, I'm a recovering alcoholic. 1473 01:34:16,860 --> 01:34:20,405 That's my six-month sobriety chip from AA. 1474 01:34:20,489 --> 01:34:24,576 I've been on the wagon and off the wagon more times than I can remember. 1475 01:34:24,660 --> 01:34:28,121 Definitely more times than my whiskey-loving brain can remember. 1476 01:34:30,207 --> 01:34:33,669 It's honest. You should try it some time. It's refreshing. 1477 01:34:33,752 --> 01:34:38,090 Brennan, I don't know if I have any friends left. 1478 01:34:38,173 --> 01:34:40,509 Right now do you think you're free? 1479 01:34:41,927 --> 01:34:44,096 What do you mean "free"? 1480 01:34:44,179 --> 01:34:46,682 A free man wouldn't need to ask. 1481 01:34:49,434 --> 01:34:50,769 Mm. 1482 01:34:53,980 --> 01:34:55,691 I'm not free. 1483 01:35:01,071 --> 01:35:03,115 I feel like a failure. 1484 01:35:05,325 --> 01:35:07,494 I'm on stage all the time, 1485 01:35:09,037 --> 01:35:10,747 expected to be this voice of hope. 1486 01:35:10,831 --> 01:35:13,458 People want me to be perfect, but I'm not. 1487 01:35:13,542 --> 01:35:15,210 Brennan, 1488 01:35:16,712 --> 01:35:18,296 I'm always 1489 01:35:21,133 --> 01:35:23,885 carrying around this darkness. 1490 01:35:23,927 --> 01:35:26,304 We're all fighting the same battle. 1491 01:35:26,388 --> 01:35:28,432 You know, I love what you said. 1492 01:35:28,515 --> 01:35:30,892 You said that... you said that God loves us for who we are, 1493 01:35:30,976 --> 01:35:33,770 not for who we should be because none of us are who we should be. 1494 01:35:33,854 --> 01:35:36,898 Yeah, that's the heart of the ragamuffin gospel right there. 1495 01:35:38,692 --> 01:35:40,569 What's that? 1496 01:35:40,610 --> 01:35:44,322 Ragamuffins are the unsung assembly of saved sinners. 1497 01:35:44,406 --> 01:35:46,908 They're little in their own sight, 1498 01:35:46,950 --> 01:35:49,578 and aware of their brokenness 1499 01:35:49,661 --> 01:35:52,122 and powerlessness before God. 1500 01:35:55,584 --> 01:35:59,379 A ragamuffin knows he's only a beggar at the door of God's mercy. 1501 01:36:01,590 --> 01:36:02,716 Brennan, 1502 01:36:07,679 --> 01:36:11,099 I'm a ragamuffin. 1503 01:36:11,141 --> 01:36:13,185 Oh, I know. 1504 01:36:13,268 --> 01:36:15,604 Me, too. 1505 01:36:15,687 --> 01:36:19,483 And, uh, as one ragamuffin to another, 1506 01:36:19,566 --> 01:36:22,778 would you judge me if I had another hot fudge sundae? 1507 01:36:28,116 --> 01:36:30,827 This next song is my contribution 1508 01:36:30,911 --> 01:36:34,956 to the...ragamuffin collection. 1509 01:36:40,170 --> 01:36:44,216 J3 It took the hand Of God Almighty J3 1510 01:36:44,299 --> 01:36:47,219 J 7'0 part the waters In the sea 1511 01:36:48,970 --> 01:36:52,349 But /'2' only took One little lie 1512 01:36:52,432 --> 01:36:55,393 To separate You and me 1513 01:36:55,477 --> 01:36:58,396 J Oh we are Not as strong J 1514 01:37:03,485 --> 01:37:05,403 .57 As we think we are .U 1515 01:37:11,076 --> 01:37:14,412 And they say That' one day Joshua J 1516 01:37:14,496 --> 01:37:17,499 J He made the sun Stand still in the sky J 1517 01:37:17,582 --> 01:37:23,046 But' I can '2' even Keep these thoughts Ofyou J 1518 01:37:23,129 --> 01:37:25,173 L' From passing by L' 1519 01:37:25,257 --> 01:37:27,676 J Oh we are Not as strong J 1520 01:37:32,639 --> 01:37:34,599 .57 As we think we are .U 1521 01:37:39,688 --> 01:37:41,523 .67 We are frail J 1522 01:37:41,606 --> 01:37:46,361 J3 We are fearfully And wonderfully made J3 1523 01:37:46,444 --> 01:37:50,198 Forged in the fires Of human passion 1524 01:37:50,240 --> 01:37:53,785 J Choking on the fumes Of selfish rage 1525 01:37:53,869 --> 01:37:57,789 J7 And with these Our hells and our heavens J7 1526 01:37:57,873 --> 01:38:01,042 L' 80 few inches apart L' 1527 01:38:01,126 --> 01:38:05,213 J3 We must be Awfully small J7 1528 01:38:05,297 --> 01:38:09,551 Not' as strong As we think we are .U 1529 01:38:31,615 --> 01:38:33,283 Thank you. 1530 01:38:40,874 --> 01:38:45,170 You know, you guys are all into that born-again thing, 1531 01:38:45,253 --> 01:38:47,422 which is fine. 1532 01:38:49,507 --> 01:38:51,176 We do need to be born again. 1533 01:38:51,259 --> 01:38:53,845 Jesus said that to a guy named Nicodemus. 1534 01:38:56,389 --> 01:38:58,683 But you tell me I need to be born again 1535 01:39:00,602 --> 01:39:02,771 to enter the kingdom of God, I can tell you 1536 01:39:02,812 --> 01:39:06,316 that you need to sell everything you have and give it to the poor. 1537 01:39:06,399 --> 01:39:08,944 'Cause Jesus said that to one guy, too. 1538 01:39:10,654 --> 01:39:13,365 Maybe that's why God invented highlighters. 1539 01:39:15,951 --> 01:39:20,121 So we can highlight what we like in the Bible and just ignore the rest. 1540 01:39:22,999 --> 01:39:25,460 I think that when we do things to-- 1541 01:39:26,962 --> 01:39:29,339 that corrupt our lives, 1542 01:39:32,550 --> 01:39:36,096 we're really just trying to comfort some ache that we have. 1543 01:39:38,139 --> 01:39:40,558 And I think that the Church exists 1544 01:39:40,642 --> 01:39:43,144 'cause we all kind of need each other. 1545 01:39:43,186 --> 01:39:44,771 And why are we all 1546 01:39:46,439 --> 01:39:49,150 walking around church wearing these masks, 1547 01:39:50,485 --> 01:39:52,404 pretending to be perfect? 1548 01:39:55,323 --> 01:39:57,534 It's so exhausting. 1549 01:39:59,953 --> 01:40:01,788 Why do we do it? 1550 01:40:05,542 --> 01:40:08,586 And I think that our only hope is the love of God. 1551 01:40:15,051 --> 01:40:18,388 Hey; Hey. 1552 01:40:18,471 --> 01:40:20,265 The song I've been working on that I-- 1553 01:40:20,348 --> 01:40:22,267 I kind of want to play 'cause my parents are here, 1554 01:40:22,350 --> 01:40:25,603 so if you indulge me here, um, 1555 01:40:25,687 --> 01:40:28,064 it's just about my family. 1556 01:40:31,109 --> 01:40:33,945 J3 My folks They were always J3 1557 01:40:34,029 --> 01:40:37,198 J? The first family To arrive J3 1558 01:40:37,240 --> 01:40:39,200 J3 Seven people jammed J3 1559 01:40:39,242 --> 01:40:42,871 E mm a car That seated five D 1560 01:40:42,912 --> 01:40:44,706 X1 There was One bathroom D 1561 01:40:44,789 --> 01:40:46,708 E To bathe And shave 'm D? 1562 01:40:46,791 --> 01:40:49,627 .0 Six of us Stood in line 1563 01:40:49,711 --> 01:40:52,380 J3 And hot water For only three J7 1564 01:40:52,422 --> 01:40:56,801 J3 But we all Did just fine J3 1565 01:40:56,885 --> 01:40:59,929 J3 Talk about Your miracles J3 1566 01:41:00,013 --> 01:41:02,891 J3 Talk about Your faith J3 1567 01:41:02,932 --> 01:41:05,977 J3 My dad he could Make things grow J3 1568 01:41:06,061 --> 01:41:09,898 J3 Out of Indiana clay J3 1569 01:41:09,939 --> 01:41:12,442 J3 Mom could make A gourmet meal J3 1570 01:41:12,525 --> 01:41:15,945 J3 Out of just Cornbread and beans J3 1571 01:41:16,029 --> 01:41:19,783 J3 And they learned to give Faith hands and feet J3 1572 01:41:21,451 --> 01:41:24,746 D And somehow Gave wings J1 1573 01:41:34,422 --> 01:41:36,591 That was nice, boy. 1574 01:41:46,935 --> 01:41:50,355 Wayne, it was wonderful. 1575 01:41:50,438 --> 01:41:52,607 Your dad thought so, too. 1576 01:41:52,649 --> 01:41:55,193 He just doesn't know how to say it. 1577 01:41:56,736 --> 01:41:58,446 Wayne, I, M... 1578 01:42:01,074 --> 01:42:03,535 I, uh-- What, Dad? 1579 01:42:06,121 --> 01:42:07,872 Uh, you-you know. 1580 01:42:08,915 --> 01:42:10,458 Thank you, son. 1581 01:42:13,586 --> 01:42:16,297 Neva, we need to, we need to get going. 1582 01:42:28,476 --> 01:42:30,979 Why don't you go out there and talk to him right now? 1583 01:42:32,480 --> 01:42:34,524 Can't you see he needs you? 1584 01:42:36,526 --> 01:42:39,320 I don't know how to talk to him, Neva. 1585 01:42:41,072 --> 01:42:42,991 Some other time. 1586 01:43:02,468 --> 01:43:04,721 Hello? Hello? 1587 01:43:11,519 --> 01:43:13,396 Hello? Is someone there? 1588 01:43:19,194 --> 01:43:20,403 Is someone there? 1589 01:43:49,891 --> 01:43:52,060 All right, this is good. Where do you want it? 1590 01:43:52,143 --> 01:43:55,313 Uh, right there. 1591 01:43:55,396 --> 01:43:58,149 Hey, Rich, you got a phone call in the office. 1592 01:43:58,233 --> 01:44:00,902 All right. Church office. 1593 01:44:00,985 --> 01:44:02,570 Can you help me find the other hammers? 1594 01:44:02,612 --> 01:44:05,073 I can't find them again. 1595 01:44:08,743 --> 01:44:10,495 This is Rich. 1596 01:44:13,831 --> 01:44:15,333 Say that again. 1597 01:44:21,297 --> 01:44:22,966 But I just saw him. 1598 01:44:33,434 --> 01:44:35,019 Dad. 1599 01:45:17,353 --> 01:45:19,897 J? This world J3 1600 01:45:19,981 --> 01:45:26,321 J3 Is not my home J3 1601 01:45:29,157 --> 01:45:32,201 J3 I'm just J3 1602 01:45:32,285 --> 01:45:35,913 J3 Passing through J3 1603 01:45:38,166 --> 01:45:40,084 51 My treasures I1 1604 01:45:40,168 --> 01:45:44,839 J3 Are laid up J3 1605 01:45:44,881 --> 01:45:48,926 J3 Somewhere beyond J3 1606 01:45:49,010 --> 01:45:52,805 J? The blue J3 1607 01:45:56,059 --> 01:46:04,734 .U I can '2' feel at home 1608 01:46:06,194 --> 01:46:11,032 J? In this world J3 1609 01:46:12,200 --> 01:46:17,622 L' Anymore L' 1610 01:46:29,634 --> 01:46:31,260 HEY- H3'!- 1611 01:46:31,344 --> 01:46:33,304 Where the hell where you? 1612 01:46:33,388 --> 01:46:35,306 I was getting coffee in the lobby. 1613 01:46:35,390 --> 01:46:38,810 Thought I told you to leave a note if you go anywhere. 1614 01:46:38,893 --> 01:46:40,561 Leave a note to get coffee, Rich? 1615 01:46:40,645 --> 01:46:42,772 What's the point of having you on the road 1616 01:46:42,855 --> 01:46:44,732 if you're not going to be around when I need you. 1617 01:46:44,774 --> 01:46:47,068 I thought you're-- 1618 01:46:47,110 --> 01:46:49,404 I am your friend, Rich. 1619 01:46:49,487 --> 01:46:50,947 What are you talking about? 1620 01:47:12,427 --> 01:47:13,970 What's wrong with you, boy? 1621 01:47:21,060 --> 01:47:24,105 What's it like being all alone, boy? 1622 01:47:28,693 --> 01:47:32,613 You sure like being famous, don't you, boy? 1623 01:47:32,655 --> 01:47:35,491 Do you think you deserve this success? 1624 01:47:41,289 --> 01:47:43,249 Rich. 1625 01:47:44,959 --> 01:47:47,545 We're going to be late for Brennan's thing. 1626 01:47:51,090 --> 01:47:52,633 Rich. 1627 01:48:04,145 --> 01:48:06,522 You know that you're a ragamuffin 1628 01:48:06,606 --> 01:48:09,734 if you're not ashamed to be a ragamuffin. 1629 01:48:09,817 --> 01:48:13,488 Much like having the simplicity of a child, 1630 01:48:13,529 --> 01:48:16,908 and the poverty of a child, you come before your Abba Father, 1631 01:48:16,991 --> 01:48:20,661 and you rest' in your identity as the beloved of God. 1632 01:48:35,885 --> 01:48:38,012 Hey, Wayne. Hey! 1633 01:48:38,054 --> 01:48:40,598 How many times I've got to tell you not to yank on that thing? 1634 01:48:40,681 --> 01:48:43,059 You're going to break it just like you broke the tractor. 1635 01:48:43,142 --> 01:48:45,686 You're going to break every damn thing around here. 1636 01:48:45,770 --> 01:48:47,939 Look at me when I'm talking to you. 1637 01:48:48,022 --> 01:48:50,608 You understand me? Yes, sir. 1638 01:48:53,236 --> 01:48:55,363 Leave it alone. 1639 01:49:18,052 --> 01:49:19,554 Jesus. 1640 01:49:22,515 --> 01:49:23,766 Jesus. 1641 01:49:26,561 --> 01:49:29,438 I'm going to play a song that, um, 1642 01:49:29,522 --> 01:49:31,732 that I wrote-I wrote a while ago now, 1643 01:49:31,816 --> 01:49:35,111 and...it's come to me more to me lately. 1644 01:49:38,906 --> 01:49:40,950 This song is kind of a prayer and, um, 1645 01:49:43,411 --> 01:49:45,746 If you bear with me, 1646 01:49:45,830 --> 01:49:49,125 I'm playing this more for myself than for you, so. 1647 01:50:07,685 --> 01:50:13,190 J3 Sometimes my life Just don't make sense At all J3 1648 01:50:16,527 --> 01:50:20,615 J When the mountains Look so big 1649 01:50:20,698 --> 01:50:24,493 J3 And my faith Just seems so small J3 1650 01:50:26,454 --> 01:50:29,832 J3 So hold me Jesus J3 1651 01:50:29,915 --> 01:50:33,961 J3 'Cause I'm shaking Like a leaf J3 1652 01:50:34,003 --> 01:50:38,674 J? You have been King of my glory J3 1653 01:50:38,758 --> 01:50:42,803 D Won": You be My Prince of Peace 53 1654 01:50:50,144 --> 01:50:53,356 .U I wake up In the night J 1655 01:50:53,439 --> 01:50:56,150 .57 And feel the dark 1656 01:50:59,320 --> 01:51:02,490 J It's so hot' Inside my soul 1657 01:51:02,531 --> 01:51:06,827 J? I swear there must be Blisters on my heart J3 1658 01:51:08,496 --> 01:51:11,874 J3 So hold me Jesus J3 1659 01:51:11,957 --> 01:51:16,587 J3 'Cause I'm shaking Like a leaf J3 1660 01:51:16,671 --> 01:51:20,925 J? You have been King of my glory J3 1661 01:51:21,008 --> 01:51:24,720 D Won": You be My Prince of Peace 53 1662 01:51:26,305 --> 01:51:31,394 J3 Surrender don't come Natural to me J3 1663 01:51:33,688 --> 01:51:38,025 J3 I'd rather fight You for something I don't really want J3 1664 01:51:38,109 --> 01:51:41,987 J3 Than to take what You give that I need J3 1665 01:51:43,656 --> 01:51:48,285 J3 I've beat my head Against so many walls J3 1666 01:51:48,369 --> 01:51:51,247 J3 Now I'm falling down J3 1667 01:51:51,330 --> 01:51:56,127 J3 I'm falling on my knees J3 1668 01:52:01,382 --> 01:52:04,593 J3 And this Salvation Army band J3 1669 01:52:04,677 --> 01:52:08,097 J3 ls playing this hymn J3 1670 01:52:10,307 --> 01:52:13,728 J3 And His grace Rings out so deep J3 1671 01:52:13,769 --> 01:52:17,732 J3 It makes My resistance Seem so thin J3 1672 01:52:17,815 --> 01:52:22,486 J3 So hold me Jesus J3 1673 01:52:22,570 --> 01:52:26,866 J3 'Cause I'm shaking Like a leaf J3 1674 01:52:29,744 --> 01:52:34,915 J? You have been King of my glory J3 1675 01:52:34,999 --> 01:52:39,462 D Won": You be My Prince 53 1676 01:52:39,545 --> 01:52:41,380 D Of Peace D 1677 01:54:27,069 --> 01:54:29,029 Hold on. I'm on the phone with the label. 1678 01:54:29,113 --> 01:54:31,532 Come in. 1679 01:54:31,574 --> 01:54:33,784 Hello? Hey, Bryan. 1680 01:54:33,868 --> 01:54:36,078 Uh, listen, man. Uh, this just came to me last night, 1681 01:54:36,161 --> 01:54:37,621 but I have an idea for the new record. 1682 01:54:37,705 --> 01:54:40,875 I want to do ten songs about Jesus. 1683 01:54:40,916 --> 01:54:43,460 Just really simple, stripped down. 1684 01:54:43,544 --> 01:54:46,547 I'm really excited about this. Sorry to cut you off there, Rich. 1685 01:54:46,589 --> 01:54:49,633 But, uh, I'm afraid to say this isn't Bryan. 1686 01:54:49,717 --> 01:54:52,970 Who is this? Well, I was actually really excited to talk to you. 1687 01:54:53,053 --> 01:54:56,307 My name is Chad Montgomery, and I'm the new head of the label. 1688 01:54:56,390 --> 01:54:59,143 Uh, where is Bryan and Matt? 1689 01:54:59,226 --> 01:55:02,438 Well, unfortunately, Matt and Bryan are no longer with us. 1690 01:55:02,521 --> 01:55:04,106 They switched labels and-- 1691 01:55:06,191 --> 01:55:11,322 Matt and Bryan aren't at the label anymore. Yeah, I know. 1692 01:55:11,405 --> 01:55:15,826 I've been trying to call and tell you but you don't answer the phone. 1693 01:55:15,910 --> 01:55:17,661 Rich, what's this new record about? 1694 01:55:17,745 --> 01:55:19,747 Why would they leave without telling me? 1695 01:55:19,830 --> 01:55:22,249 I don't know. I don't think it's a bad thing, Rich. 1696 01:55:22,333 --> 01:55:25,794 They're just moving on. 1697 01:55:25,878 --> 01:55:29,131 Moving on? What-- Yeah, people do that. 1698 01:55:29,214 --> 01:55:31,425 Yeah, I know people do that. 1699 01:55:31,508 --> 01:55:33,802 Oh. do you? 1700 01:55:34,845 --> 01:55:35,930 Really? 1701 01:55:38,223 --> 01:55:40,601 Yeah, Justin. Wha-What's your problem? 1702 01:55:40,684 --> 01:55:43,103 I-I don't have a problem. 1703 01:55:43,187 --> 01:55:46,106 I'm sorry if I'm bothering you. 1704 01:55:47,441 --> 01:55:49,526 I just came by to tell you 1705 01:55:51,028 --> 01:55:52,988 I'm getting married. 1706 01:55:55,157 --> 01:55:58,827 Well, that's-- that's not bad news. That's good news, man. 1707 01:56:00,245 --> 01:56:01,455 Gosh, I'm-I'm relieved. 1708 01:56:01,497 --> 01:56:04,124 Um-- 1709 01:56:04,208 --> 01:56:07,711 No, that's awesome. We could use another girl in the tour. 1710 01:56:07,795 --> 01:56:10,130 No, Rich. 1711 01:56:10,172 --> 01:56:12,716 I'm leaving the tour. 1712 01:56:15,844 --> 01:56:16,804 Why would you-- 1713 01:56:21,141 --> 01:56:22,851 Of course you are. 1714 01:56:36,991 --> 01:56:38,492 Yeah? 1715 01:56:38,575 --> 01:56:42,871 Rich? Brennan. 1716 01:56:42,955 --> 01:56:45,082 Okay, ragamuffin. 1717 01:56:45,165 --> 01:56:48,043 On a scale of one to ten, how hung over are you? 1718 01:56:51,672 --> 01:56:53,590 Eleven. 1719 01:56:56,218 --> 01:57:00,055 What do you say that you and I go away on a retreat of sorts? 1720 01:57:02,016 --> 01:57:04,351 Is today too soon? 1721 01:57:07,688 --> 01:57:10,274 In Jesus' language, 1722 01:57:10,357 --> 01:57:13,610 the word that he taught the disciples to pray with was Abba. 1723 01:57:13,694 --> 01:57:17,072 It means -daddy.- 1724 01:57:17,156 --> 01:57:19,867 It doesn't really work for me to think of God as a father, Brennan. 1725 01:57:21,035 --> 01:57:23,454 Me, either. 1726 01:57:23,537 --> 01:57:27,041 But it's the essence of the disciples' identity. 1727 01:57:27,082 --> 01:57:29,752 And praying Abba, I belong to you. 1728 01:57:29,835 --> 01:57:31,837 It's like breathing. 1729 01:57:33,797 --> 01:57:37,259 I'll be in the cabin behind us. You'll be in this one. 1730 01:57:37,342 --> 01:57:39,720 The first night's going to be the hardest. 1731 01:57:39,762 --> 01:57:42,473 What exactly are you going to have me do? 1732 01:57:42,556 --> 01:57:46,643 I want you to write a letter from John to you. 1733 01:57:46,727 --> 01:57:49,772 Brennan, my dad wasn't exactly the kind of guy that showed a lot of emotion. 1734 01:57:49,855 --> 01:57:52,900 I'm not sure I can do that. 1735 01:57:52,983 --> 01:57:56,153 I think you told me that you knew you father loved you. 1736 01:57:56,236 --> 01:57:58,322 But he never told you. 1737 01:57:58,405 --> 01:58:00,741 Let him tell you. 1738 01:58:32,189 --> 01:58:34,733 Abba, Abba. 1739 01:58:37,277 --> 01:58:39,321 Abba. 1740 01:58:39,404 --> 01:58:42,449 Please, let my brother come to see your love. 1741 01:58:56,213 --> 01:58:59,133 Get your damn head off the clouds, Wayne. 1742 01:59:02,052 --> 01:59:03,804 What's wrong with you, boy? 1743 01:59:05,973 --> 01:59:08,475 You're going to break every damn thing around here. 1744 01:59:11,270 --> 01:59:14,314 Two boys, two girls, 1745 01:59:14,398 --> 01:59:15,566 and you. 1746 01:59:17,317 --> 01:59:19,444 Look at me when I'm talking. 1747 01:59:22,322 --> 01:59:24,658 You understand? Damn fool's things. 1748 01:59:24,741 --> 01:59:26,743 Speak up. What does it say? 1749 01:59:26,827 --> 01:59:28,912 When I tell you to do something, you do it well. 1750 01:59:28,996 --> 01:59:31,206 You understand me? 1751 01:59:31,290 --> 01:59:33,584 I just don't understand wh y everything you touch ends up-- 1752 01:59:53,937 --> 01:59:55,856 Don't be afraid, son. 1753 02:00:15,125 --> 02:00:17,044 Wayne. 1754 02:00:20,339 --> 02:00:22,758 Wayne, boy. 1755 02:00:24,384 --> 02:00:26,803 You know I didn't mean it. 1756 02:00:26,887 --> 02:00:31,391 Son, if I'm not tough on you, you're never going to learn. 1757 02:00:33,310 --> 02:00:34,937 Come on. 1758 02:00:35,020 --> 02:00:36,897 You'll be all right? 1759 02:00:39,107 --> 02:00:40,609 Come on. 1760 02:01:04,299 --> 02:01:06,677 It's time, ragamuffin. 1761 02:01:12,140 --> 02:01:14,476 Dear Wayne, 1762 02:01:14,559 --> 02:01:16,436 it's a lot like I told you. 1763 02:01:16,478 --> 02:01:20,440 Being poor ain't shameful it's just inconvenient. 1764 02:01:23,527 --> 02:01:25,445 I valued you. 1765 02:01:25,529 --> 02:01:28,282 It's just that I didn't know you. 1766 02:01:28,365 --> 02:01:30,784 I didn't know how I was supposed to be affectionate. 1767 02:01:30,826 --> 02:01:33,495 I thought that was soft. 1768 02:01:33,578 --> 02:01:37,874 I can see the strength of steel, but I couldn't see the power of tenderness, 1769 02:01:37,958 --> 02:01:42,296 or the courage it takes to hold tenderness up to a fire. 1770 02:01:42,337 --> 02:01:47,467 Anyway, I can '2' even remember that you walked funny and had scra wn y shoulders. 1771 02:01:47,551 --> 02:01:49,177 Did you? 1772 02:01:49,261 --> 02:01:51,305 Who the hell cares? 1773 02:01:51,388 --> 02:01:53,473 I'm here in the company of several fathers 1774 02:01:53,515 --> 02:01:56,143 who occasioned pain in their sons. 1775 02:01:56,184 --> 02:01:58,312 Abraham did it to Isaac. 1776 02:01:58,395 --> 02:02:00,397 David to Absalom. 1777 02:02:00,480 --> 02:02:04,651 God Almighty himself even did it to His boy, Jesus. 1778 02:02:04,693 --> 02:02:07,237 If you love him, you'll surely hurt him. 1779 02:02:07,321 --> 02:02:09,656 It's just a fact of life. 1780 02:02:09,740 --> 02:02:13,076 Passion, pain... 1781 02:02:13,160 --> 02:02:17,497 doesn't' have to wreck your life unless you make it'. 1782 02:02:17,539 --> 02:02:19,207 That's your choice. 1783 02:02:19,291 --> 02:02:21,668 Be brave in your pain, son. 1784 02:02:21,710 --> 02:02:23,920 I don't say that because you're not. 1785 02:02:24,004 --> 02:02:26,506 I'm proof that you didn't run off from it. 1786 02:02:26,548 --> 02:02:28,508 But keep brave. 1787 02:02:31,345 --> 02:02:34,890 I once wrote you on October 21st, 1955. 1788 02:02:36,183 --> 02:02:37,642 Richard made me a-- 1789 02:02:40,604 --> 02:02:41,855 a very proud man. 1790 02:02:44,358 --> 02:02:47,986 I'm up here in this cloud of witnesses and you can ask anything. 1791 02:02:49,696 --> 02:02:52,949 I brag about you all the time... 1792 02:02:53,033 --> 02:02:55,369 until they're about to kick me out. 1793 02:02:58,914 --> 02:03:00,791 I love you, boy. 1794 02:03:01,917 --> 02:03:03,460 Dad. 1795 02:03:13,637 --> 02:03:15,806 So, how do you feel, little brother? 1796 02:03:18,141 --> 02:03:19,893 Free. 1797 02:03:22,396 --> 02:03:24,731 And what does a free man do? 1798 02:03:24,815 --> 02:03:27,651 I want to be on the reservation. 1799 02:03:27,734 --> 02:03:30,237 That's...that's where I want to be. 1800 02:03:30,320 --> 02:03:31,905 I want to be with those kids. 1801 02:03:31,947 --> 02:03:33,990 Then go. 1802 02:03:34,074 --> 02:03:37,077 I mean, you could do a lot of good there. 1803 02:03:38,620 --> 02:03:40,580 I think they'll do more good for me. 1804 02:03:44,459 --> 02:03:48,338 So, what's next, Brennan? 1805 02:03:48,422 --> 02:03:52,134 Next, I want you to write a letter from your abba father God to you. 1806 02:03:53,593 --> 02:03:55,011 That I don't need to do. 1807 02:03:57,013 --> 02:03:58,765 Why? 1808 02:04:00,183 --> 02:04:02,769 I know what that one would say. 1809 02:04:11,486 --> 02:04:13,488 It always cracks me up and-- 1810 02:04:15,615 --> 02:04:17,200 When people try to impress God 1811 02:04:17,284 --> 02:04:19,828 because you don't have to impress God. 1812 02:04:21,788 --> 02:04:24,374 He's already knocked out by you. 1813 02:04:28,295 --> 02:04:30,630 And Picasso said something once that I really liked. 1814 02:04:30,672 --> 02:04:32,674 He said, 1815 02:04:32,757 --> 02:04:36,303 he said that good taste is the enemy of great art. 1816 02:04:38,388 --> 02:04:41,391 And I think that's really true because 1817 02:04:41,475 --> 02:04:45,479 good taste has everything to do with being cultured and being refined and... 1818 02:04:47,647 --> 02:04:50,066 if art has to do with anything, it has to do with being human. 1819 02:04:50,150 --> 02:04:55,238 I remember, when I was a kid, I was a typical depressed adolescent. 1820 02:04:55,322 --> 02:04:58,158 People would always come up to me and say, 1821 02:04:58,200 --> 02:05:00,327 say, Cheer up. God loves you. 1822 02:05:02,871 --> 02:05:05,707 And I'd say, Big deal. God loves everybody. 1823 02:05:08,001 --> 02:05:10,253 It don't make me special. 1824 02:05:12,172 --> 02:05:14,925 It just proves that God ain't got no taste. 1825 02:05:17,677 --> 02:05:19,846 And I don't think that he does. 1826 02:05:22,015 --> 02:05:23,892 And thank God. 1827 02:05:28,939 --> 02:05:32,776 So, I think that God takes the-- 1828 02:05:32,859 --> 02:05:35,529 He takes the messiness and the ugliness in our lives, 1829 02:05:35,612 --> 02:05:41,034 and he makes the most beautiful art in the world out of it. 1830 02:05:41,076 --> 02:05:45,205 If you're half as cultured and refined as most Christians wish you were, 1831 02:05:48,250 --> 02:05:50,794 He would be useless to Christianity. 1832 02:05:57,133 --> 02:05:59,803 But God is a wild man. 1833 02:06:04,891 --> 02:06:08,103 And I hope that someday you have the chance to encounter Him. 1834 02:06:13,567 --> 02:06:16,403 But if you do, 1835 02:06:16,486 --> 02:06:19,864 let me warn you, because you'd better hold on for dear life. 1836 02:06:24,995 --> 02:06:27,914 Or let go for dear life maybe is better. 1837 02:06:33,003 --> 02:06:37,424 J3 There's a wideness In God's mercy J3 1838 02:06:37,507 --> 02:06:42,304 J I cannot' find In my own 1839 02:06:42,387 --> 02:06:46,016 J He keeps His fire burning J 1840 02:06:46,099 --> 02:06:50,186 J7 To melt this Heart of stone J7 1841 02:06:50,270 --> 02:06:54,691 Keeps n7e aching With a yearning 1842 02:06:54,774 --> 02:06:59,279 J Makes me glad To have been caught' J 1843 02:06:59,362 --> 02:07:03,783 J In the reckless Raging fury 1844 02:07:03,825 --> 02:07:08,538 That' they call The love of God 1845 02:07:12,792 --> 02:07:16,963 Now I've seen No band of angels 1846 02:07:17,005 --> 02:07:20,717 But' I've heard The soldiers' songs 1847 02:07:20,800 --> 02:07:24,638 .U Love hangs over them Like a banner 1848 02:07:24,721 --> 02:07:28,475 .U Love within them Leads them on J 1849 02:07:28,558 --> 02:07:33,146 J To the battle On the journey J 1850 02:07:33,229 --> 02:07:36,399 And it's never Gonna stop 1851 02:07:36,483 --> 02:07:41,237 Ever widening Their mercies 1852 02:07:41,321 --> 02:07:46,534 And the fury Of His love 1853 02:07:46,618 --> 02:07:51,748 .67 Oh the love of God 1854 02:07:51,831 --> 02:07:58,421 And oh The love of God 1855 02:08:00,215 --> 02:08:03,426 .57 The love of God 1856 02:08:08,723 --> 02:08:13,603 Joy and sorrow Are this ocean 1857 02:08:13,687 --> 02:08:17,565 J In their every Ebb and flow 1858 02:08:17,649 --> 02:08:22,320 Now the Lord A door has opened 1859 02:08:24,823 --> 02:08:28,201 J That' all Hell Could never close 1860 02:08:28,284 --> 02:08:32,414 Here /'/77 tested And made worthy 1861 02:08:32,497 --> 02:08:36,668 Tossed about And lifted up 1862 02:08:44,300 --> 02:08:48,763 J In the reckless Raging fury 1863 02:08:48,847 --> 02:08:54,227 That' they call The love of God 1864 02:09:02,736 --> 02:09:05,655 is there anything you'd like to say to our listeners 1865 02:09:05,739 --> 02:09:07,824 before we sign off? 1866 02:09:09,743 --> 02:09:11,411 People are going to judge you. 1867 02:09:11,494 --> 02:09:14,330 People are going to condemn you. 1868 02:09:14,414 --> 02:09:17,292 You know, a matter of fact, it seems as though some people, 1869 02:09:17,375 --> 02:09:19,753 that's exactly what they're looking for. 1870 02:09:21,671 --> 02:09:24,257 I would rather live in the verge of falling 1871 02:09:24,299 --> 02:09:27,802 and let my security be found in the all-sufficiency of the grace of God 1872 02:09:27,886 --> 02:09:34,184 than to live in some kind of pielislic illusion of.--moral excellence. 1873 02:10:18,144 --> 02:10:21,898 I guess I'd say go out and live real good. 1874 02:10:21,981 --> 02:10:24,651 I promise you'll get beat up real bad. 1875 02:10:26,277 --> 02:10:28,071 But in a little while, 1876 02:10:28,154 --> 02:10:30,073 after you're dead, 1877 02:10:30,156 --> 02:10:33,535 you 'll be rotted a way anyway. 1878 02:10:33,618 --> 02:10:36,287 It's not going to matter if you have a few scars. 1879 02:10:38,039 --> 02:10:40,500 But it will matter if you didn't live. 1880 02:11:17,871 --> 02:11:21,207 Everybody Each and all 1881 02:11:21,291 --> 02:11:24,794 J We're gonna die Eventually 1882 02:11:26,754 --> 02:11:30,133 J It's no more Or less our faults 1883 02:11:30,216 --> 02:11:33,761 J Than if is Our destiny 1884 02:11:35,555 --> 02:11:38,808 J 80 now Lord I come to you 1885 02:11:38,892 --> 02:11:42,228 Asking only For Your grace 1886 02:11:44,063 --> 02:11:47,734 J You know what I've Put' myself through 1887 02:11:47,817 --> 02:11:51,905 All those empty Dreams I chased 1888 02:11:51,946 --> 02:11:56,326 And when my body Lies in the ruins 1889 02:11:56,409 --> 02:12:00,622 Of the lies that Nearly ruined me 1890 02:12:00,705 --> 02:12:04,834 J Will You pick up The pieces that were Pure and true 1891 02:12:04,918 --> 02:12:08,922 And breathe Your Life into them And set' them free 1892 02:12:09,005 --> 02:12:13,509 .UAnd when You start' This world over again From scratch 1893 02:12:13,593 --> 02:12:17,847 J Will You make me anew Out' of the stuff That' lasts 1894 02:12:17,931 --> 02:12:20,600 J Stuff that's purer Than gold is .U 1895 02:12:20,683 --> 02:12:24,687 Clearer than glass Could ever be J 1896 02:12:27,106 --> 02:12:30,902 .67 Can I be with You 1897 02:12:35,531 --> 02:12:38,284 .67 Can I be with You 1898 02:13:16,656 --> 02:13:18,700 And the Irish have always 1899 02:13:18,783 --> 02:13:21,536 sort of traditionally have been afraid of going out to sea. 1900 02:13:21,619 --> 02:13:23,746 People go to Ireland and they come back 1901 02:13:23,830 --> 02:13:26,666 and they have these really beautiful big sweaters, real big bulky, 1902 02:13:26,708 --> 02:13:29,085 and they've got all kinds of stitches and stuff in them. 1903 02:13:29,168 --> 02:13:32,088 Well, they started doing that because each of those different stitches 1904 02:13:32,171 --> 02:13:34,424 it's different charms and prayers and stuff 1905 02:13:34,507 --> 02:13:37,010 that they would weave into their husband's sweaters. 1906 02:13:37,051 --> 02:13:41,264 And, uh, so, you know, if it worked, then their husbands would come back alive. 1907 02:13:41,347 --> 02:13:43,933 And if it didn't, because fish don't eat wool, 1908 02:13:44,017 --> 02:13:47,854 they could tell who was who by what sweater was on them. 1909 02:13:54,110 --> 02:13:56,279 I just think that's a charming story. 1910 02:14:02,869 --> 02:14:06,789 It scares me when I talk to you guys and you guys think so highly of Christian music, 1911 02:14:06,873 --> 02:14:10,626 contemporary Christian music especially, because I know a lot of us 1912 02:14:10,710 --> 02:14:13,379 and we don't know jack about anything. 1913 02:14:16,466 --> 02:14:18,926 Not that I don't want you to buy our records. 1914 02:14:20,636 --> 02:14:23,389 Orcome to our concerts, I sure do. 1915 02:14:23,431 --> 02:14:26,309 But you should come for entertainment. 1916 02:14:26,392 --> 02:14:29,812 If you really want spiritual nourishment, you should go to church. 1917 02:14:38,196 --> 02:14:40,948 Those people care about you. 1918 02:14:41,032 --> 02:14:43,242 You don't have to buy a ticket. 1919 02:14:49,499 --> 02:14:53,586 We are not saved because we're good. 1920 02:14:53,669 --> 02:14:55,755 We're good because we're saved. 1921 02:14:57,381 --> 02:15:00,093 And never forget what Jesus did for you. 1922 02:15:00,176 --> 02:15:04,222 Never take lightly what it cost him. 1923 02:15:06,140 --> 02:15:10,103 And never assume that if it cost him his very life, 1924 02:15:11,979 --> 02:15:14,232 that it will cost you yours. 1925 02:15:21,072 --> 02:15:24,784 And when you wash up on that other shore, 1926 02:15:24,867 --> 02:15:28,704 even though you've been disfigured beyond any recognition, 1927 02:15:34,627 --> 02:15:38,131 the angels are going to see you there and they'll go, What is this? 1928 02:15:40,299 --> 02:15:42,802 We're not even sure if he's human. 1929 02:15:44,637 --> 02:15:48,349 But Jesus will say, No, that's human. 1930 02:15:48,432 --> 02:15:50,309 I know that one. 1931 02:15:50,393 --> 02:15:53,229 And they'll say, Jesus, how do you know that one? 1932 02:15:55,273 --> 02:15:57,650 And he will say, Well, you see that sweater he's got on? 141272

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