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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:13,388 --> 00:00:16,516 ♪ I wake up, I go to work ♪ 2 00:00:17,183 --> 00:00:22,981 ♪ But every day I get someone Trying to slam me down ♪ 3 00:00:23,231 --> 00:00:25,066 ♪ Back in the dirt ♪ 4 00:00:26,651 --> 00:00:30,613 ♪ I don't care I move on ♪ 5 00:00:31,531 --> 00:00:34,784 ♪ So bring on the media To the driveway ♪ 6 00:00:35,452 --> 00:00:39,539 I use my music as an escape from reality. 7 00:00:43,668 --> 00:00:48,131 This is what I do right here, drive around and listen to myself singing. 8 00:00:48,214 --> 00:00:53,261 ♪ This old town is where I wanna be ♪ 9 00:00:53,344 --> 00:00:55,388 ♪ Is where I'm gonna be ♪ 10 00:00:57,015 --> 00:01:01,269 ♪ I moved up here And I took a chance, yeah ♪ 11 00:01:01,352 --> 00:01:04,439 ♪ Started my own brother's dream ♪ 12 00:01:05,648 --> 00:01:08,026 ♪ Ain't much left here now ♪ 13 00:01:08,109 --> 00:01:13,239 ♪ Just some beat-up buildings And a place to dream ♪ 14 00:01:14,491 --> 00:01:17,827 ♪ They still haunt me ♪ 15 00:01:18,828 --> 00:01:22,415 ♪ In this old town ♪ 16 00:01:25,085 --> 00:01:27,087 This is a prepaid call from... 17 00:01:27,295 --> 00:01:28,379 Joe Exotic. 18 00:01:28,713 --> 00:01:30,715 ...an inmate at the Grady County Jail. 19 00:01:33,009 --> 00:01:34,009 Me and Carole 20 00:01:34,219 --> 00:01:35,595 made money off of each other. 21 00:01:35,678 --> 00:01:37,430 We became popular off of each other 22 00:01:37,514 --> 00:01:41,559 because I was her number one most wanted cub abuser 23 00:01:42,018 --> 00:01:43,436 that she could make money off of, 24 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,189 and she was my number one murdered-her-husband 25 00:01:46,272 --> 00:01:48,691 and-fed-him-to-the-tigers-and... crazy bitch out there 26 00:01:49,317 --> 00:01:51,820 that I could make music videos and shit about. 27 00:01:52,070 --> 00:01:54,030 All right, we're gonna get Joe in there now. 28 00:01:54,197 --> 00:01:55,406 Oh, okay. 29 00:01:58,201 --> 00:02:00,161 God, this stinks! Hurry up! 30 00:02:00,453 --> 00:02:01,746 Come on, over here. 31 00:02:03,081 --> 00:02:04,921 If you don't think she's not making money 32 00:02:04,999 --> 00:02:07,669 off of me being in jail right now, you're crazier than shit. 33 00:02:16,761 --> 00:02:20,557 Howard, this entire row of files is all dedicated to Joe. 34 00:02:21,516 --> 00:02:22,516 Actually... 35 00:02:23,268 --> 00:02:24,894 this file cabinet... 36 00:02:25,937 --> 00:02:28,565 this is the current legal stuff... 37 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,443 and... this one down here. 38 00:02:35,822 --> 00:02:38,134 Tilt up a bit, Michael. We'll put it right there. 39 00:02:38,158 --> 00:02:39,798 Joe, let's have one right at this camera. 40 00:02:39,826 --> 00:02:41,828 - Come here. - You got stills, Michael? 41 00:02:42,203 --> 00:02:44,622 Oh, it's a still camera? Somebody get my... 42 00:02:46,708 --> 00:02:48,668 Wow, one with the mouth open and everything. 43 00:02:48,751 --> 00:02:51,546 The more Joe got aware of social media and how it worked, 44 00:02:51,629 --> 00:02:54,257 the more he realized that he needed to work the name. 45 00:02:54,340 --> 00:02:56,009 Like, when you Google "big cat rescue," 46 00:02:56,092 --> 00:02:58,094 it pulls up Big Cat Rescue in Tampa, Florida. 47 00:02:58,469 --> 00:03:02,599 Do you know the power you have if you search Google around the world, 48 00:03:02,682 --> 00:03:04,851 and you're the first choice every time? 49 00:03:04,934 --> 00:03:08,062 Hey, all you cool cats and kittens, it's Carole at Big Cat Rescue... 50 00:03:08,146 --> 00:03:09,355 She is the one. 51 00:03:09,439 --> 00:03:12,358 She's the first choice every time, supersedes all the zoos. 52 00:03:12,442 --> 00:03:14,235 She's at the top of all search. 53 00:03:14,319 --> 00:03:16,237 Most of the cats ate well today. 54 00:03:16,321 --> 00:03:19,407 Nat was a champ and so was Frosty, the serval, 55 00:03:19,490 --> 00:03:22,035 except for no poop from Frosty. 56 00:03:22,744 --> 00:03:25,848 Joe started realizing that if he made his name close to Big Cat Rescue, 57 00:03:25,872 --> 00:03:27,832 when they Google it, it might pull him up first. 58 00:03:30,627 --> 00:03:32,128 Joe decided 59 00:03:32,378 --> 00:03:34,964 that the way he would get back at us... 60 00:03:35,548 --> 00:03:38,468 was to rename his traveling show 61 00:03:38,927 --> 00:03:40,678 "Big Cat Rescue Entertainment." 62 00:03:42,222 --> 00:03:46,893 He did that as a ploy to help his, uh, ratings on the Internet. 63 00:03:47,518 --> 00:03:49,914 Where did you get the name? Where'd you get the idea? 64 00:03:49,938 --> 00:03:51,098 Big Cat Rescue Entertainment? 65 00:03:51,147 --> 00:03:53,775 I mean, we're the biggest center in the United States 66 00:03:53,858 --> 00:03:55,193 who are rescuing big cats. 67 00:03:55,568 --> 00:03:58,613 Uh, and we entertain people, okay? 68 00:03:58,696 --> 00:04:00,740 Here's our logo, all right? 69 00:04:00,823 --> 00:04:03,326 And here is what he started using. 70 00:04:03,952 --> 00:04:06,829 Notice that the "Entertainment" below is a bit faded, 71 00:04:06,913 --> 00:04:08,206 so you don't even see it. 72 00:04:08,957 --> 00:04:14,170 The snow leopard eyes was, at that time, the masthead on our website, 73 00:04:14,254 --> 00:04:16,005 so he was copying that. 74 00:04:16,089 --> 00:04:17,650 I don't want to say it's all the way similar, 75 00:04:17,674 --> 00:04:19,354 but, I mean, it definitely looked like it. 76 00:04:19,384 --> 00:04:23,805 Here, he was handing out a business card that said, "Florida office", 77 00:04:24,055 --> 00:04:27,267 and had our area code and number that forwarded to him. 78 00:04:27,350 --> 00:04:30,603 Yeah, he come up with a Florida address and a Florida phone number 79 00:04:30,853 --> 00:04:33,481 to help ping all that stuff together. 80 00:04:33,564 --> 00:04:36,109 And it worked. People were contacting us and saying, 81 00:04:36,192 --> 00:04:38,112 "Hey, I didn't think you did this sort of thing." 82 00:04:38,152 --> 00:04:41,322 Oh, that definitely pissed her off. And then it just got worse. 83 00:04:41,406 --> 00:04:43,741 We couldn't sue him over the cub petting. 84 00:04:43,825 --> 00:04:45,868 We didn't have standing to do that. 85 00:04:45,952 --> 00:04:48,329 But we could sue him for violating our copyright. 86 00:04:48,955 --> 00:04:50,456 We are now on the record 87 00:04:50,540 --> 00:04:55,795 in the matter of Big Cat Rescue Corp. versus Big Cat Rescue Entertainment. 88 00:04:55,878 --> 00:04:58,965 This is the videotape deposition of Joe... 89 00:05:00,091 --> 00:05:02,135 uh, "Shreeb-uh-vogel"? 90 00:05:02,427 --> 00:05:04,220 - Schreibvogel. - Okay. 91 00:05:04,304 --> 00:05:06,514 Honestly, I thought it would end there. 92 00:05:06,723 --> 00:05:09,767 I thought he would look at that and be smart enough to say, 93 00:05:09,851 --> 00:05:13,438 "You know what? I don't want the expense of a lawsuit. 94 00:05:13,521 --> 00:05:14,939 I'll just stop using their name." 95 00:05:16,024 --> 00:05:17,608 He continued to use the name, 96 00:05:18,234 --> 00:05:21,904 and he filed counter claims to drag this out. 97 00:05:23,156 --> 00:05:26,200 We built a website, 911AnimalAbuse.org. 98 00:05:26,284 --> 00:05:29,871 We put a reward out for information leading to who killed Don 99 00:05:29,954 --> 00:05:31,831 or where Don's remains are. 100 00:05:32,373 --> 00:05:33,573 Why did you set that up? 101 00:05:33,624 --> 00:05:35,209 Why did I set that up? 102 00:05:35,293 --> 00:05:40,506 To start posting the truth about Carole Baskin for a change. 103 00:05:41,507 --> 00:05:43,509 Is Don really under the septic tank? 104 00:05:45,470 --> 00:05:49,432 We tried to expose the fact that she is scamming the public. 105 00:05:49,515 --> 00:05:52,810 I'm gonna stay on your ass so hard... 106 00:05:53,770 --> 00:05:57,231 that you're gonna end up in jail for fraud before this is over with. 107 00:05:57,732 --> 00:06:03,529 Why did it take $47,652 to put on your Fur Ball 108 00:06:03,613 --> 00:06:06,574 to only raise $45,000? 109 00:06:07,742 --> 00:06:09,577 This is just not true. 110 00:06:10,536 --> 00:06:15,166 I don't think Joe considers lying to be a question of ethics. 111 00:06:15,249 --> 00:06:18,127 I think he would consider it to be an art form. 112 00:06:19,587 --> 00:06:21,589 It was like the Hatfield and McCoy. 113 00:06:21,672 --> 00:06:22,715 They go at each other. 114 00:06:22,799 --> 00:06:24,550 "Oh, you did this!" "Well, you did that!" 115 00:06:24,634 --> 00:06:25,968 "I got this!" "I got that!" 116 00:06:26,511 --> 00:06:31,516 It's just a crazy little comedy between exotic animal owners. 117 00:06:33,559 --> 00:06:36,521 She even got your big daddy cigar, looky there. 118 00:06:36,646 --> 00:06:38,648 Oh, that's getting the phone to ringing. 119 00:06:39,482 --> 00:06:40,691 Joe Exotic was... 120 00:06:41,609 --> 00:06:44,862 everything I had dreamed of in finding a reality show. 121 00:06:44,946 --> 00:06:47,132 - This morning we're shooting... - ...publicity stills... 122 00:06:47,156 --> 00:06:49,575 ...for Joe Exotic Tiger King, the reality show... 123 00:06:49,659 --> 00:06:52,412 ...in order to get the stills that we need to send out 124 00:06:52,495 --> 00:06:54,997 to the news media and everything else worldwide 125 00:06:55,081 --> 00:06:56,791 for the first episode of the show. 126 00:06:56,874 --> 00:06:59,554 And how should we set this thing up then, knowing our poor angles... 127 00:06:59,627 --> 00:07:04,465 Rick Kirkham, he came to the zoo as a producer for Joe's reality show. 128 00:07:04,549 --> 00:07:07,260 Joe had been trying, and nobody could get it kicked off. 129 00:07:07,885 --> 00:07:10,221 Rick Kirkham promised him he could get it done. 130 00:07:11,597 --> 00:07:16,310 Doing his little Internet shows was only my way of getting into the zoo, 131 00:07:16,394 --> 00:07:19,439 because I had a camera crew shooting a reality show 132 00:07:19,522 --> 00:07:22,233 behind the crews shooting his Internet show. 133 00:07:22,316 --> 00:07:24,360 I could give a crap about his Internet show. 134 00:07:24,444 --> 00:07:25,611 But that was the deal. 135 00:07:25,695 --> 00:07:26,988 He signed the contract. 136 00:07:27,113 --> 00:07:28,531 "I'll let you shoot a reality show 137 00:07:28,614 --> 00:07:30,408 if you'll go ahead and run my studio." 138 00:07:30,491 --> 00:07:33,035 Okay, people, stand by. Fifteen seconds till showtime. 139 00:07:33,119 --> 00:07:35,204 - Stand by, video one. - Video one is queued! 140 00:07:35,288 --> 00:07:36,330 Let's get Joe on the set. 141 00:07:36,414 --> 00:07:38,559 - Teleprompter... - It worked out good for me. 142 00:07:38,583 --> 00:07:41,711 I was like, "Hell yeah, I'm gonna make a million dollars off this reality show. 143 00:07:41,794 --> 00:07:44,005 I'll do your little piddly-ass internet show." 144 00:07:45,173 --> 00:07:48,259 This is Joe Exotic's episode of "Eaten Alive." 145 00:07:48,342 --> 00:07:50,219 Discovery Channel, here I come! 146 00:07:51,471 --> 00:07:54,182 I mean, it was a passion of his to do a reality show. 147 00:07:54,265 --> 00:07:56,767 You know, gay man, owning a zoo, toting a gun. 148 00:07:57,226 --> 00:07:59,020 He said it'll sell, for sure. 149 00:07:59,103 --> 00:08:02,064 Hey, I'm Joe Exotic, otherwise known as The Tiger King. 150 00:08:02,148 --> 00:08:05,485 The gay, gun-carrying redneck with a mullet. 151 00:08:05,568 --> 00:08:09,947 He was like a mythical character living out in the middle of Bumfuck, Oklahoma, 152 00:08:10,156 --> 00:08:14,827 and owned 1,200 tigers and lions and bears and monkeys and shit. 153 00:08:14,911 --> 00:08:16,871 We're shooting the reality show in segments. 154 00:08:16,954 --> 00:08:19,373 In this morning's segment, we would go into Joe's bedroom, 155 00:08:19,457 --> 00:08:22,335 get the alarm going off, Joe waking up... 156 00:08:22,418 --> 00:08:24,837 There was something so odd about the man, 157 00:08:24,921 --> 00:08:27,006 and yet, he had so much confidence 158 00:08:27,089 --> 00:08:29,717 because he owned the world in his head. 159 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:31,594 Got you. 160 00:08:31,677 --> 00:08:33,846 All right, keep rolling, keep rolling. 161 00:08:35,181 --> 00:08:38,100 Now this is the kind of movies we're gonna make here, okay? 162 00:08:39,685 --> 00:08:41,979 Whoo! 163 00:08:48,027 --> 00:08:51,072 I'd settled on a title of Joe Exotic, Tiger King 164 00:08:51,447 --> 00:08:52,447 for the reality show. 165 00:08:53,950 --> 00:08:55,076 That's fucking heavy. 166 00:08:55,159 --> 00:08:58,454 I said, "Here's what I wanna do, Joe. I'm gonna build a king's throne. 167 00:08:59,038 --> 00:09:02,375 Big, solid wood, red velvet, the whole works, 168 00:09:02,875 --> 00:09:05,461 and I'm gonna put it in the middle of a big tiger cage 169 00:09:05,545 --> 00:09:07,338 with all these tigers around you." 170 00:09:07,797 --> 00:09:10,007 And he's like, "Oh... Okay! I like that!" 171 00:09:12,260 --> 00:09:13,594 He wanted to be famous... 172 00:09:14,387 --> 00:09:16,931 more than he wanted anything else in life. 173 00:09:17,890 --> 00:09:21,060 Man, when he saw that footage, he went wild. 174 00:09:21,519 --> 00:09:23,563 He’s like, "I am the Tiger King! 175 00:09:23,646 --> 00:09:25,648 I've always been the Tiger King!" 176 00:09:25,731 --> 00:09:28,276 You can go in there and go into the gift shop into his office 177 00:09:28,359 --> 00:09:30,486 at eight, nine o'clock at night, and hear this... 178 00:09:31,654 --> 00:09:33,573 ...and you go around, and he was sitting there, 179 00:09:33,656 --> 00:09:36,909 playing this shot over and over of him in this throne. 180 00:09:47,503 --> 00:09:49,505 Joe's ego was so big. 181 00:09:49,672 --> 00:09:51,132 Can you give me my whip? 182 00:09:51,215 --> 00:09:53,759 Way too big for his little body. 183 00:09:54,510 --> 00:09:57,305 Look into my eyes. No... 184 00:09:58,014 --> 00:10:00,266 He would have done anything to become famous. 185 00:10:02,226 --> 00:10:04,020 I watched him fire people 186 00:10:04,604 --> 00:10:07,064 just because he knew the camera was rolling. 187 00:10:07,148 --> 00:10:08,228 ...problem with that? 188 00:10:08,274 --> 00:10:11,694 Having the cameras run on the morning meetings set Joe off. 189 00:10:11,777 --> 00:10:13,571 It was like lighting a firecracker. 190 00:10:13,654 --> 00:10:15,014 And if you think it's funny, 191 00:10:15,072 --> 00:10:16,949 you can pack your shit and go right now! 192 00:10:17,033 --> 00:10:19,094 - I like... - Because the disrespect around this place 193 00:10:19,118 --> 00:10:20,118 is ending today! 194 00:10:20,911 --> 00:10:24,290 You're the slacker, and you do less than anybody here. 195 00:10:24,373 --> 00:10:26,751 Ain't gonna work with me, so you need to find a new job. 196 00:10:30,129 --> 00:10:33,883 He started getting so crazy to where he had a rubber blow-up doll, 197 00:10:34,216 --> 00:10:37,345 and he would have "Carole" written on a name tag on it, 198 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,848 and he would take a dildo and be shoving it in her mouth. 199 00:10:40,931 --> 00:10:43,684 "Carole, this is coming for you! It's gonna catch up." 200 00:10:43,809 --> 00:10:46,437 I mean, it got crazy. Got crazy. 201 00:10:46,812 --> 00:10:47,812 She ain't going nowhere. 202 00:10:49,315 --> 00:10:51,275 You wanna know why 203 00:10:51,359 --> 00:10:56,030 Carole Baskin better never, ever, ever 204 00:10:56,113 --> 00:10:58,074 see me face-to-face 205 00:10:58,532 --> 00:11:01,535 ever, ever, ever again? 206 00:11:04,205 --> 00:11:07,875 That is how sick and tired of this shit I am. 207 00:11:08,542 --> 00:11:10,586 And this picture that you see back here, 208 00:11:10,670 --> 00:11:13,047 that's our sign-up front with him posing in front of it 209 00:11:13,130 --> 00:11:16,967 with bullet holes in it. It's like, this guy is just... 210 00:11:19,136 --> 00:11:20,136 unbelievable. 211 00:11:21,305 --> 00:11:23,307 We all tried to tell him, "Knock it off, stupid." 212 00:11:23,391 --> 00:11:26,644 Y'know, all you're doing is asking for a battle that you don't... 213 00:11:26,727 --> 00:11:29,271 Even if you do win, it's still gonna cost so much time, 214 00:11:29,355 --> 00:11:31,065 so much money, so much everything. 215 00:11:31,148 --> 00:11:33,377 Bow down, tell her to go fuck herself and walk the fuck out. 216 00:11:33,401 --> 00:11:34,402 But no, he didn't. 217 00:11:34,985 --> 00:11:37,655 He became more obsessed with all that 218 00:11:37,738 --> 00:11:38,738 than he actually... 219 00:11:39,907 --> 00:11:41,784 took care of the cats that he had. 220 00:11:42,743 --> 00:11:45,871 I'm not trying to pat myself on the back or anything, but I'm glad I was here. 221 00:11:46,622 --> 00:11:49,083 And then the rabbit picture showed up on Facebook. 222 00:11:50,626 --> 00:11:52,962 I was given a picture via email 223 00:11:53,629 --> 00:11:55,256 from a lady in Florida 224 00:11:55,548 --> 00:11:57,550 of Big Cat Rescue's employees 225 00:11:57,883 --> 00:11:59,593 bashing rabbits in the head 226 00:11:59,969 --> 00:12:02,179 and posing like they're some kind of trophies, 227 00:12:02,263 --> 00:12:03,723 with big smiles on their face. 228 00:12:04,348 --> 00:12:05,975 This is what I got sued over. 229 00:12:07,518 --> 00:12:08,769 Does that look happy? 230 00:12:09,270 --> 00:12:12,982 Are you familiar with one of your videos that you titled 231 00:12:13,065 --> 00:12:16,944 "Carole Baskin Saga 39: Killing Innocent Rabbits"? 232 00:12:18,571 --> 00:12:19,571 Um... 233 00:12:19,905 --> 00:12:23,284 I remember doing 57 sagas about Carole Baskin. 234 00:12:23,367 --> 00:12:26,579 I don't, right in front of me, have what Saga 39 was about. 235 00:12:27,079 --> 00:12:31,000 But yes, I did some sagas on Carole Baskin killing rabbits. 236 00:12:32,001 --> 00:12:35,546 It was back before we could afford to give the whole prey to the cats 237 00:12:35,629 --> 00:12:37,089 as frequently as we do now. 238 00:12:37,173 --> 00:12:39,592 So, they're holding these rabbits with blood on their noses, 239 00:12:39,675 --> 00:12:41,218 and they're grinning from ear to ear 240 00:12:41,302 --> 00:12:43,637 because their favorite cat's finally getting a rabbit, 241 00:12:43,721 --> 00:12:49,727 and yet, that has been twisted into us being these horrific monsters 242 00:12:49,810 --> 00:12:52,521 that would get pleasure out of hurting a rabbit. 243 00:12:52,813 --> 00:12:55,274 So, you know, that kind of stuff, you're just like, "Ugh... 244 00:12:56,192 --> 00:12:59,653 really, do I have to explain this to somebody?" 245 00:13:00,029 --> 00:13:01,447 She sued me for copyright. 246 00:13:02,072 --> 00:13:04,867 - Well, what'd you do? - I posted it all over Facebook. 247 00:13:05,826 --> 00:13:07,369 This wasn't her photo, either. 248 00:13:08,037 --> 00:13:11,457 After I posted it, she paid five dollars for the person that took this photo, 249 00:13:12,666 --> 00:13:15,085 and then, three months later, she copyrighted it, 250 00:13:15,377 --> 00:13:16,504 and then, she sued me. 251 00:13:17,213 --> 00:13:19,465 The one lawsuit was about the rabbit photo 252 00:13:19,548 --> 00:13:21,717 and the other lawsuit was about a bunch of photos 253 00:13:21,801 --> 00:13:24,804 where he would take a picture of Carole 254 00:13:24,887 --> 00:13:26,472 and take her head 255 00:13:26,555 --> 00:13:30,518 and put it on the body of a man in a diaper. 256 00:13:31,602 --> 00:13:33,813 This here's this picture of this gooey thing 257 00:13:33,896 --> 00:13:36,398 and it says "Smile everyone! Life could be worse. 258 00:13:36,524 --> 00:13:38,651 You could have a crotch like Carole does." 259 00:13:39,944 --> 00:13:41,153 I believe they had just 260 00:13:41,737 --> 00:13:43,155 slaughtered a horse, 261 00:13:43,239 --> 00:13:45,533 and this is the horse's penis that he's holding 262 00:13:45,616 --> 00:13:49,703 and it says "Hey, Howard, suck my Captain Morgan, LOL." 263 00:13:50,287 --> 00:13:52,790 And by the way, that is a penis. A horse penis. 264 00:13:53,415 --> 00:13:55,251 That... that was my recollection. 265 00:13:56,502 --> 00:13:59,046 We did a protest in front of Carole's place. 266 00:14:00,214 --> 00:14:02,675 Big Cat Rescue kills its cats! 267 00:14:03,217 --> 00:14:06,095 - Let's find Don Lewis. - Find Don Lewis. 268 00:14:08,305 --> 00:14:10,391 Every person who drove by hollered, "Murderer." 269 00:14:10,933 --> 00:14:12,893 I don't even know how you hold your head up 270 00:14:12,977 --> 00:14:15,855 in a community that thinks you killed your husband. 271 00:14:17,064 --> 00:14:19,233 And at the time that you were handing out 272 00:14:19,316 --> 00:14:21,485 these handouts with the photograph, 273 00:14:21,569 --> 00:14:24,905 which is Exhibit 1, this lawsuit was already pending, correct? 274 00:14:25,364 --> 00:14:26,407 Mmm, yeah. 275 00:14:27,116 --> 00:14:30,035 And you were aware that Big Cat Rescue... 276 00:14:30,494 --> 00:14:35,499 uh, did not approve of or authorize your use of this photograph, correct? 277 00:14:37,918 --> 00:14:39,920 Yeah, except I didn't make these. 278 00:14:40,004 --> 00:14:42,047 But you participated in the demonstration 279 00:14:42,131 --> 00:14:43,291 and handed them out, correct? 280 00:14:43,340 --> 00:14:46,093 Yep. No, actually, I didn't hand them out. 281 00:14:46,176 --> 00:14:47,678 I'm the one in the bunny suit. 282 00:14:48,262 --> 00:14:49,930 Third page, you're the bunny? 283 00:14:51,056 --> 00:14:52,056 Put it on. 284 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,143 Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen! 285 00:14:54,226 --> 00:14:55,436 I'm Joe Exotic, 286 00:14:55,519 --> 00:14:58,063 and we're gonna make an honest woman out of this bitch. 287 00:14:58,147 --> 00:15:00,065 That's my opening. 288 00:15:02,943 --> 00:15:05,571 Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. 289 00:15:16,916 --> 00:15:19,501 In early 2013, 290 00:15:19,585 --> 00:15:21,962 we were coming up to this trial in January, 291 00:15:22,296 --> 00:15:25,799 and we had filed a motion for summary judgment. 292 00:15:26,342 --> 00:15:29,303 And the judge announced that she was granting our motion... 293 00:15:30,304 --> 00:15:32,139 ...and his counterclaims were going away. 294 00:15:32,932 --> 00:15:37,061 Oklahoma's home for live, local, late-breaking coverage! 295 00:15:37,144 --> 00:15:40,189 An Oklahoma man who goes by the name Joe Exotic 296 00:15:40,272 --> 00:15:42,983 has agreed to pay a Florida animal sanctuary 297 00:15:43,067 --> 00:15:47,321 nearly one million dollars to resolve a trademark infringement lawsuit. 298 00:15:47,404 --> 00:15:50,157 You know the saying that you get your day in court? 299 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:51,920 Well, I don't feel we got our day in court. 300 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,037 Dirty politics is what I call it. 301 00:15:55,537 --> 00:15:58,666 She had to result into financially draining us. 302 00:15:59,416 --> 00:16:02,920 You know, I actually believed in the justice system there for a while, 303 00:16:03,170 --> 00:16:04,880 until this happened. 304 00:16:08,425 --> 00:16:11,679 The million-dollar judgment, you know, I just thought she did it 305 00:16:12,346 --> 00:16:13,597 to make a point. 306 00:16:13,764 --> 00:16:15,891 "Look, I'm not gonna back down. 307 00:16:15,975 --> 00:16:20,104 You're not gonna intimidate me, and you're not gonna have the final word." 308 00:16:23,065 --> 00:16:26,694 I was surprised that she was actually trying to collect payment. 309 00:16:29,113 --> 00:16:31,198 Who has the millions 310 00:16:31,281 --> 00:16:34,410 to spend that amount of time in court? She did. 311 00:16:35,536 --> 00:16:38,497 She'll never get a million dollars out of me. I don't own anything. 312 00:16:40,124 --> 00:16:41,124 I don't own anything. 313 00:16:42,334 --> 00:16:43,794 This bus is not mine. 314 00:16:44,670 --> 00:16:46,171 Those cars are not mine. 315 00:16:47,131 --> 00:16:48,131 I'm not stupid. 316 00:16:53,929 --> 00:16:56,807 She wanted everything in assets. 317 00:16:57,641 --> 00:17:02,146 From vehicles to four-wheelers to... everything. 318 00:17:02,646 --> 00:17:04,982 She can take everything away from me. 319 00:17:05,065 --> 00:17:10,446 I don't give a shit because she will never shut this mouth up, all right? 320 00:17:10,529 --> 00:17:13,198 Until the day I see her ass in prison. 321 00:17:18,245 --> 00:17:21,415 Joe, he turned over what he had to. 322 00:17:21,582 --> 00:17:24,126 'Cause a lot of it was possessions. 323 00:17:24,209 --> 00:17:27,379 She took the semitruck, and she took the tour bus, 324 00:17:27,463 --> 00:17:29,673 which, in her opinion, was a win 325 00:17:29,965 --> 00:17:33,635 because he couldn't do road shows anymore, not without the equipment. 326 00:17:34,053 --> 00:17:37,056 He had already spent a quarter million dollars fighting her. 327 00:17:37,556 --> 00:17:41,226 Carole had him by the balls, and he hated her. 328 00:17:41,810 --> 00:17:43,145 God, he hated her. 329 00:17:43,228 --> 00:17:45,981 Did I hear you say you wanted my fucking watch? 330 00:17:46,231 --> 00:17:47,983 Really? My watch? 331 00:17:48,067 --> 00:17:50,462 Any of the assets that Carole wanted in the lawsuit, 332 00:17:50,486 --> 00:17:52,780 he would take out there and blow it up with Tannerite. 333 00:17:54,865 --> 00:17:57,659 They tell me you want my goddamn bed too. 334 00:17:58,786 --> 00:17:59,995 God damn. 335 00:18:00,537 --> 00:18:02,390 He'd say, "Here's your assets, come get 'em," 336 00:18:02,414 --> 00:18:04,416 and it'd just be a pile of crap. 337 00:18:05,459 --> 00:18:07,211 He never stopped antagonizing her. 338 00:18:07,711 --> 00:18:09,213 All I did constantly was: 339 00:18:09,296 --> 00:18:11,715 "Roll the camera, roll the camera, roll the camera," 340 00:18:11,924 --> 00:18:13,175 to get all that shit on tape. 341 00:18:13,258 --> 00:18:17,387 And I had everything on videotape, good, bad, and ugly. 342 00:18:19,181 --> 00:18:20,641 I wanna make this show go. 343 00:18:20,724 --> 00:18:23,852 I know how great this reality show could be. 344 00:18:24,019 --> 00:18:25,019 It's so unique. 345 00:18:26,021 --> 00:18:27,606 I just gotta get it on network. 346 00:18:28,857 --> 00:18:32,319 I've been living here on the zoo and living and working, 347 00:18:32,402 --> 00:18:34,154 and I'm here at the zoo 24/7. 348 00:18:34,738 --> 00:18:36,990 I'm just tired. Very tired. 349 00:18:43,038 --> 00:18:45,582 We were negotiating with a network... 350 00:18:46,250 --> 00:18:48,127 uh, to buy the show. 351 00:18:48,210 --> 00:18:50,587 It would have netted him quite a bit of money. 352 00:18:51,797 --> 00:18:54,675 'Cause it's the only way he was gonna pay that million dollars. 353 00:18:55,592 --> 00:18:57,427 But it came to a crashing halt. 354 00:19:05,936 --> 00:19:06,936 Oh, shit. 355 00:19:08,856 --> 00:19:11,191 Yeah, I got woked up at six o'clock in the morning. 356 00:19:12,234 --> 00:19:16,280 Reinke came in, and these motherfuckers had blown up our, uh... 357 00:19:17,072 --> 00:19:18,198 the studio. 358 00:19:18,532 --> 00:19:21,076 The blast was so big that it blew the doors open. 359 00:19:25,038 --> 00:19:27,541 Joe had gone to Chicago for a funeral, 360 00:19:27,875 --> 00:19:30,377 and it was me and Reinke on the park with the other crew, 361 00:19:30,961 --> 00:19:33,857 and Reinke says, "I ain't touching nothing till the fire department gets here. 362 00:19:33,881 --> 00:19:35,007 I want it looked at." 363 00:19:35,924 --> 00:19:39,386 That building, where the alligators were kept, 364 00:19:39,678 --> 00:19:43,849 as well as a studio that Joe had... it was clearly an arson. 365 00:19:43,932 --> 00:19:45,184 It was a set fire. 366 00:19:46,226 --> 00:19:47,936 It had burned so hot, 367 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,564 there was nothing left. 368 00:19:51,106 --> 00:19:53,108 I dropped to my knees and I cried. 369 00:19:53,192 --> 00:19:56,778 I cried because all of our footage was in that studio, 370 00:19:56,945 --> 00:19:59,781 and I hadn't backed up anything outside the studio. 371 00:20:01,033 --> 00:20:03,493 An arsonist hit our facility 372 00:20:03,577 --> 00:20:06,997 and set fire to not only my recording studio, 373 00:20:07,206 --> 00:20:09,917 but the studio that houses our alligators, 374 00:20:10,250 --> 00:20:12,794 which caused them all to burn up and perish, 375 00:20:13,170 --> 00:20:15,339 boiling alive in a... 376 00:20:15,714 --> 00:20:16,715 Let's see. 377 00:20:17,257 --> 00:20:21,470 Boiling alive in an inferno, a towering inferno? 378 00:20:21,970 --> 00:20:26,350 Boiling alive in a towering inferno of nothing but flames and fire. 379 00:20:27,100 --> 00:20:30,395 For somebody to burn down an alligator house, 380 00:20:31,146 --> 00:20:32,940 they gotta be a pretty sick person. 381 00:20:33,941 --> 00:20:35,192 Because they burned up... 382 00:20:36,318 --> 00:20:39,071 seven of my... crocodilians. 383 00:20:40,197 --> 00:20:41,907 If you have a problem with me, 384 00:20:41,990 --> 00:20:43,992 take it up with me, like a man. 385 00:20:44,451 --> 00:20:48,622 Don't burn live, innocent animals to get your fucking point across. 386 00:20:49,831 --> 00:20:52,125 We're not really liked by the animal world, you know, 387 00:20:52,209 --> 00:20:53,502 animal rights people hate us. 388 00:20:53,585 --> 00:20:57,673 We get constant threats on the phone, e-mails, letters. 389 00:20:57,756 --> 00:20:59,883 We're offering a 10,000-dollar reward 390 00:21:00,425 --> 00:21:03,512 for information leading to the arrest and the conviction 391 00:21:03,845 --> 00:21:07,683 of either this suspect or the people that were involved. 392 00:21:07,766 --> 00:21:11,311 If it is tied to any animal rights organization, 393 00:21:11,645 --> 00:21:14,356 we are going to double that reward. 394 00:21:15,023 --> 00:21:19,027 Carole Baskin, crawl this fence and try to hurt any of my animals again, 395 00:21:19,319 --> 00:21:21,947 you can guaran-goddamn-tee I'm gonna put a cap in your ass 396 00:21:22,030 --> 00:21:24,825 the first time, to make you squirm around on the ground. 397 00:21:24,908 --> 00:21:27,577 And then I'mma put a bullet right between your fucking eyes! 398 00:21:29,204 --> 00:21:31,748 I'm waitin' for 'em to catch Carole Baskin in this. 399 00:21:32,249 --> 00:21:34,626 Because we got e-mails between her and my producer. 400 00:21:34,710 --> 00:21:36,461 She offered him $20,000. 401 00:21:37,170 --> 00:21:39,798 Wait, wait, she offered who $20,000? 402 00:21:39,881 --> 00:21:40,757 My producer. 403 00:21:40,841 --> 00:21:41,925 To do what? 404 00:21:42,467 --> 00:21:45,178 To get all the footage and set fire to my studio. 405 00:21:46,179 --> 00:21:49,683 I had sent Rick Kirkham a Facebook message and I said, 406 00:21:49,766 --> 00:21:53,020 "I think you probably don't know about the person you're working for." 407 00:21:53,312 --> 00:21:54,813 Her intent was to warn him, 408 00:21:54,896 --> 00:21:56,456 but we never made him any kind of offer 409 00:21:56,481 --> 00:21:57,774 or asked him for anything. 410 00:21:58,692 --> 00:21:59,818 I got him on videotape. 411 00:22:02,988 --> 00:22:05,782 I swear that's Rick Kirkham walking in front of the video 412 00:22:05,866 --> 00:22:07,576 that morning that it burnt down. 413 00:22:08,785 --> 00:22:09,786 I was, like, in shock. 414 00:22:09,870 --> 00:22:11,872 I was like, "Are you out of your fucking mind?" 415 00:22:11,955 --> 00:22:14,958 It was like, "That's my retirement that just burned, okay? 416 00:22:15,042 --> 00:22:18,587 I got everything invested in that project that no longer exists." 417 00:22:20,339 --> 00:22:23,133 As far as the footage, I don't know who's got it. 418 00:22:23,717 --> 00:22:26,678 I suspected Kirkham of taking all of his material. 419 00:22:28,305 --> 00:22:31,933 I was the one person Joe feared the most 420 00:22:32,017 --> 00:22:36,188 because I was shooting everything in his personal life... 421 00:22:36,897 --> 00:22:42,235 and could take what I saw and witnessed and... and harm him with it. 422 00:22:43,570 --> 00:22:45,989 There was all kinds of shit on there. 423 00:22:46,073 --> 00:22:49,493 Reinke doing veterinary work without a veterinarian. 424 00:22:50,285 --> 00:22:51,745 We had cameras 425 00:22:51,828 --> 00:22:54,748 on everybody every minute of the day. 426 00:22:54,998 --> 00:22:56,833 He could have sold it to Carole, 427 00:22:56,917 --> 00:22:58,502 and Carole could be, 428 00:22:58,627 --> 00:22:59,627 you know, 429 00:22:59,669 --> 00:23:01,880 just saving it for a rainy day. 430 00:23:02,464 --> 00:23:03,757 Fuck me, man! 431 00:23:04,925 --> 00:23:06,885 A scenario was thrown at me: 432 00:23:06,968 --> 00:23:08,720 do you think it could have been Joe? 433 00:23:10,972 --> 00:23:12,474 Because when that happened... 434 00:23:12,974 --> 00:23:15,394 he was out of town for a funeral. 435 00:23:16,103 --> 00:23:17,187 What better timing? 436 00:23:18,563 --> 00:23:20,690 Nobody would have ever suspected him 437 00:23:21,066 --> 00:23:23,026 of calling to have it burned down. 438 00:23:25,821 --> 00:23:26,655 All right. 439 00:23:26,738 --> 00:23:29,783 Follow me. Don't ever put that camera down in there. 440 00:23:39,543 --> 00:23:41,229 - Hi guys. - What's happening? 441 00:23:41,253 --> 00:23:43,046 What kind of problem is there, Joe? 442 00:23:43,130 --> 00:23:47,008 A week before the studio burned to the ground, 443 00:23:47,092 --> 00:23:48,593 we had gotten into an argument, 444 00:23:48,677 --> 00:23:51,012 and he was like, "You know, I don't need you. 445 00:23:51,096 --> 00:23:52,222 I can go on." 446 00:23:52,305 --> 00:23:54,141 And I pulled out our contract. 447 00:23:54,224 --> 00:23:56,685 I showed it to him. I said, "Joe, when I came here, 448 00:23:56,768 --> 00:23:59,438 not only do I own all the reality footage, 449 00:23:59,521 --> 00:24:01,648 I own all of your Internet footage 450 00:24:01,773 --> 00:24:03,608 from the time I came here that I produced." 451 00:24:04,192 --> 00:24:08,530 My producers are filming a reality show. 452 00:24:08,613 --> 00:24:12,242 So they want to do a show related to your park up there? 453 00:24:12,617 --> 00:24:14,327 They actually got it filmed. 454 00:24:14,411 --> 00:24:15,771 - Do they? - Mm-hmm. 455 00:24:15,912 --> 00:24:18,415 And how are you protecting that? 456 00:24:20,292 --> 00:24:21,292 What do you mean? 457 00:24:21,334 --> 00:24:24,296 Well, if they've got it filmed, what do they need you for? 458 00:24:25,881 --> 00:24:29,926 He blew up so bad when I showed him that contract. 459 00:24:30,260 --> 00:24:31,928 He was like, "You don't own me!" 460 00:24:32,012 --> 00:24:34,306 I said, "Joe, actually I do right now. 461 00:24:34,389 --> 00:24:37,142 I do own this show. I do own it." 462 00:24:37,726 --> 00:24:40,770 - Where is the film? - In my recording studio. 463 00:24:41,104 --> 00:24:43,440 - They don't have copies of it? - No. 464 00:24:46,151 --> 00:24:48,612 Do you see what I'm saying, Joe? - I hear you. 465 00:24:55,202 --> 00:24:57,704 - Just pisses me off, dude. - I know. 466 00:25:00,332 --> 00:25:03,043 I'll find somebody that needs ten grand. 467 00:25:03,919 --> 00:25:05,504 Make a name for themselves. 468 00:25:11,176 --> 00:25:14,846 After the studio burned, whether he destroyed it or not, 469 00:25:14,930 --> 00:25:15,931 it was gone. 470 00:25:16,973 --> 00:25:20,143 I remember walking over and handing the camera to Reinke, 471 00:25:20,477 --> 00:25:22,604 and I just said, "I'm out of here, man." 472 00:25:22,687 --> 00:25:24,487 And he said, "Yeah, might as well go on home." 473 00:25:24,564 --> 00:25:25,690 I got my dog. 474 00:25:26,024 --> 00:25:27,359 I got in my truck. 475 00:25:27,442 --> 00:25:31,530 I left everything I owned, and I drove, and I left and went back to Dallas. 476 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,074 I had a complete nervous breakdown. 477 00:25:40,956 --> 00:25:43,583 I was told by Joe and by Reinke, 478 00:25:43,708 --> 00:25:46,920 "If you step foot on the park again, we'll have you arrested for trespassing." 479 00:25:51,091 --> 00:25:53,385 This fire happened at about the time 480 00:25:53,468 --> 00:25:57,264 Joe had a judgment placed on him from a lady in Florida. 481 00:25:57,347 --> 00:25:59,224 Some of the items within this fire 482 00:25:59,307 --> 00:26:01,142 were going to be under subpoena. 483 00:26:01,476 --> 00:26:04,938 And that was some hard drives and... and some videotape 484 00:26:05,021 --> 00:26:07,607 and thing like that, and that might have been a motivation 485 00:26:07,691 --> 00:26:09,609 to maybe destroy some evidence. 486 00:26:11,570 --> 00:26:13,697 They might have shut me up for just a little while, 487 00:26:13,780 --> 00:26:16,825 but let me tell you, they've awoken a monster. 488 00:26:16,908 --> 00:26:18,910 Now Joe Exotic's pissed off. 489 00:26:19,494 --> 00:26:20,787 Be sure and get online 490 00:26:20,870 --> 00:26:23,999 and help us rebuild the voice of you, the people, 491 00:26:24,124 --> 00:26:27,127 to bring Joe Exotic TV back to the air. 492 00:26:27,586 --> 00:26:29,045 Was it for the sympathy? 493 00:26:29,129 --> 00:26:30,129 Was it for... 494 00:26:30,589 --> 00:26:31,589 the attention? 495 00:26:32,007 --> 00:26:33,008 Oh, yeah. 496 00:26:34,426 --> 00:26:36,511 Joe did take advantage of a lot of people. 497 00:26:36,595 --> 00:26:40,348 That's why I think the fire of the alligator habitat was a scam. 498 00:26:42,267 --> 00:26:43,560 When I first met Joe, 499 00:26:44,311 --> 00:26:49,399 we discussed what I would charge him to rebuild at a decent rate. 500 00:26:50,650 --> 00:26:52,152 I only charged him $8,000 501 00:26:52,235 --> 00:26:55,238 to rebuild that $120,000 building. 502 00:26:56,031 --> 00:26:57,407 You didn't make any money. 503 00:26:57,490 --> 00:26:58,867 - No. - Why'd you do it? 504 00:27:00,076 --> 00:27:01,076 For the animals. 505 00:27:02,120 --> 00:27:03,747 I mean, I got to pet cats that people 506 00:27:03,830 --> 00:27:06,124 wasn't even supposed to be putting their hands in around. 507 00:27:09,085 --> 00:27:10,295 Five months ago, 508 00:27:10,378 --> 00:27:13,173 an arsonist poured enough accelerant in there 509 00:27:13,256 --> 00:27:15,884 to where it completely exploded the building 510 00:27:15,967 --> 00:27:17,647 and burned the building down to the ground. 511 00:27:17,677 --> 00:27:19,929 I would like to thank the people from all over the world 512 00:27:20,013 --> 00:27:22,182 who don't even know us that dug deep in their pockets 513 00:27:22,265 --> 00:27:27,103 in order to rebuild this great G.W. Exotic Animal Alligator Facility. 514 00:27:28,355 --> 00:27:32,275 Our investigation never did come to anything definitive. 515 00:27:32,776 --> 00:27:34,611 So, the case is still open. 516 00:27:35,070 --> 00:27:37,238 Again, it's clearly an arson fire. 517 00:27:37,322 --> 00:27:38,573 I got great news for you. 518 00:27:38,657 --> 00:27:42,327 JoeExotic. TV returns to the air. 519 00:27:42,410 --> 00:27:46,289 We're gonna expose the lies, the corruption, and we are... 520 00:27:46,373 --> 00:27:49,250 That building contained computers 521 00:27:49,334 --> 00:27:52,462 that held information that we were seeking. 522 00:27:53,213 --> 00:27:55,799 I suspect that Joe was responsible 523 00:27:55,882 --> 00:27:58,093 for having someone burn down the building, 524 00:27:59,094 --> 00:28:02,472 but I have no firsthand knowledge, and I can't prove it. 525 00:28:06,059 --> 00:28:09,229 How much has this cost you, this lawsuit between you and Joe? 526 00:28:09,312 --> 00:28:11,731 We've spent over a million dollars in legal fees. 527 00:28:12,399 --> 00:28:13,959 You're kidding. Is it worth it? 528 00:28:13,983 --> 00:28:16,861 Well, if this were a purely commercial situation, it wouldn't. 529 00:28:16,945 --> 00:28:19,030 You'd say this is not economic, 530 00:28:19,155 --> 00:28:22,033 but this is part of our mission, to put a stop to this. 531 00:28:22,117 --> 00:28:25,370 And we're not going to allow him to abuse the system 532 00:28:25,954 --> 00:28:29,332 and wear us out and cause us to go away and succeed at that. 533 00:28:30,917 --> 00:28:32,717 You know, if you've got the money... 534 00:28:32,752 --> 00:28:34,045 If you've got the money, 535 00:28:34,129 --> 00:28:36,423 you usually find yourself on the right side. 536 00:28:38,466 --> 00:28:39,843 She's got deep pockets. 537 00:28:40,176 --> 00:28:43,888 I don't know if she wants the facility, or if she wants the facility shut down. 538 00:28:43,972 --> 00:28:46,808 But any way you look at it, she wants to take over the zoo. 539 00:28:49,227 --> 00:28:52,939 When Joe pretty much maxed out all the credit cards 540 00:28:53,022 --> 00:28:57,986 is when he asked me if I wanted to put the zoo into my name, 541 00:28:58,069 --> 00:29:00,321 and at the time, it sounded like a good idea. 542 00:29:00,905 --> 00:29:03,783 I'm John Finlay, and I'm president of the G.W. Zoo. 543 00:29:05,076 --> 00:29:07,412 Three, two, one. 544 00:29:07,537 --> 00:29:11,249 Hi, I'm John Finlay, and I'm president of the G.W. Ex... 545 00:29:12,792 --> 00:29:14,544 G.W. Zoo. It's real simple. 546 00:29:14,794 --> 00:29:15,628 Right on. 547 00:29:15,712 --> 00:29:18,757 They've done so many transfers and quick claim deeds, you can't... 548 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,301 No one can keep track of it, not even an attorney. 549 00:29:21,551 --> 00:29:23,762 You can go down to the courthouse and ask. 550 00:29:23,845 --> 00:29:25,930 If you just say the last name Schreibvogel, 551 00:29:26,014 --> 00:29:27,932 they just take a deep breath and look at you. 552 00:29:30,727 --> 00:29:34,105 Joe kept thinking if he changed the name, it would just derail them and derail them. 553 00:29:34,189 --> 00:29:36,399 Well, it didn't. They just moved it to another lawsuit. 554 00:29:36,483 --> 00:29:39,944 Carole Baskin's lawyers are vicious, 555 00:29:40,028 --> 00:29:42,405 and they go after anybody involved. 556 00:29:42,489 --> 00:29:45,283 She sued me also, just 'cause I was at the zoo. 557 00:29:45,366 --> 00:29:49,370 It was in the works that I was going to be sued at the same time. 558 00:29:49,454 --> 00:29:52,999 So, everybody that had been involved all got drug into court. 559 00:29:57,504 --> 00:29:59,798 Joe's parents, Francis and Shirley... 560 00:30:00,048 --> 00:30:02,008 Their name, Shirley's name is on everything. 561 00:30:02,091 --> 00:30:04,886 The trailers, the water bill, the electric bill, 562 00:30:04,969 --> 00:30:06,930 the cable, you know, cable bills. 563 00:30:08,681 --> 00:30:11,434 Through the proceedings about the land 564 00:30:11,518 --> 00:30:14,103 and fraudulent transfer to his mother, 565 00:30:14,521 --> 00:30:17,732 the bankruptcy trustee went after her. 566 00:30:19,609 --> 00:30:23,571 She sues my mom for illegal transfer of assets. 567 00:30:23,905 --> 00:30:25,365 Okay? Mom dumps 568 00:30:25,448 --> 00:30:28,952 hundreds of thousands of dollars into defending herself. 569 00:30:29,035 --> 00:30:31,329 Instead of being in a tiger cage today, 570 00:30:31,412 --> 00:30:34,999 I'm... in a downtown area of Oklahoma City. 571 00:30:35,333 --> 00:30:38,920 Thanks to Carole Baskin for dragging us all out of bed this morning 572 00:30:39,003 --> 00:30:43,216 and sticking my mom at the very top of that building right there 573 00:30:43,299 --> 00:30:45,301 in order to fuck with her. 574 00:30:45,385 --> 00:30:48,346 Using a federal court in order to do that. 575 00:30:50,348 --> 00:30:52,433 Between the park and the lawsuit, 576 00:30:52,517 --> 00:30:54,018 Mom ran out of money. 577 00:30:55,061 --> 00:30:56,312 Carole bankrupted 'em. 578 00:30:57,313 --> 00:31:00,441 Hello, good afternoon to everybody in the nation. 579 00:31:01,025 --> 00:31:03,611 I want to thank you with my whole heart 580 00:31:03,862 --> 00:31:06,155 for all the support and help you have done 581 00:31:06,447 --> 00:31:12,287 to get me and my husband out of the mess we were in with this attorney. 582 00:31:12,495 --> 00:31:15,123 They come banging on my door with the sheriff 583 00:31:15,623 --> 00:31:18,042 and demanding the whole sum of money 584 00:31:18,126 --> 00:31:21,254 or else they were going to come in and confiscate all the furniture 585 00:31:21,337 --> 00:31:22,337 right then and there. 586 00:31:22,380 --> 00:31:25,133 And I know from the bottom of my heart, 587 00:31:25,425 --> 00:31:27,552 Carole Baskin down in Florida 588 00:31:27,635 --> 00:31:29,178 is behind a lot of this 589 00:31:29,262 --> 00:31:32,307 because she's been harassing us right along with Joe 590 00:31:32,390 --> 00:31:33,641 for years, 591 00:31:33,725 --> 00:31:35,560 because she's so greedy, 592 00:31:35,643 --> 00:31:39,314 and she's so jealous of what he has made of his animal park 593 00:31:39,647 --> 00:31:41,649 when hers is nothing. 594 00:31:42,275 --> 00:31:44,485 It's... "Mom, pay for this attorney." 595 00:31:45,278 --> 00:31:47,739 That's every phone call. "Mom, I need some money for this." 596 00:31:47,822 --> 00:31:49,073 Like 300-something. 597 00:31:49,157 --> 00:31:50,325 I went down to the courthouse 598 00:31:50,408 --> 00:31:52,410 and got a copy of one of the deeds, and I said, 599 00:31:52,952 --> 00:31:55,496 "Grandma, are you aware that this happened?" 600 00:31:55,580 --> 00:31:58,475 And she said, "Well, he shoved a paper in front of me and told me to sign. 601 00:31:58,499 --> 00:31:59,834 I didn't think anything of it." 602 00:32:01,502 --> 00:32:02,712 Joe drained them dry. 603 00:32:06,925 --> 00:32:08,525 I told Joe, "How're you gonna make money? 604 00:32:08,593 --> 00:32:09,833 "How are you gonna make money?" 605 00:32:09,886 --> 00:32:12,680 He didn't have any other way to make money other than cub petting. 606 00:32:12,889 --> 00:32:13,973 So he had to breed. 607 00:32:19,103 --> 00:32:21,856 She's pushing another one out. You need to be filming her ass. 608 00:32:21,940 --> 00:32:23,460 See that cub come out with that camera. 609 00:32:23,524 --> 00:32:24,525 Zoom in on her ass. 610 00:32:27,695 --> 00:32:30,156 At that point, Joe was really desperate. 611 00:32:30,740 --> 00:32:32,780 He was gonna lose the zoo. Carole was gonna take it. 612 00:32:37,038 --> 00:32:38,331 She's panting hard. 613 00:32:38,414 --> 00:32:40,792 I know she's panting hard, but she's having a cub. 614 00:32:41,626 --> 00:32:42,666 You'll see, watch her ass. 615 00:32:43,628 --> 00:32:44,671 Get me a hole cut. 616 00:32:45,922 --> 00:32:47,465 There's a towel in my car. Go get it! 617 00:32:50,885 --> 00:32:52,720 Careful. Careful. 618 00:32:59,602 --> 00:33:02,331 Everything's all right. Everybody calm down. It'll be all right. 619 00:33:02,355 --> 00:33:03,715 Just do what you're supposed to do. 620 00:33:10,113 --> 00:33:11,113 Female. 621 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,953 They just never stop screaming. 622 00:33:20,540 --> 00:33:23,251 I had to finally go sleep in that studio yesterday. 623 00:33:23,334 --> 00:33:25,003 It was the only way to muffle it. 624 00:33:26,212 --> 00:33:30,925 It still costs 60,000 to 70,000 dollars a month just to feed all these animals. 625 00:33:33,469 --> 00:33:35,629 You gonna let them in or you gonna stand there? 626 00:33:35,972 --> 00:33:38,972 There's only 5 buckets of meat in there and there's 14 cats in here. 627 00:33:40,018 --> 00:33:42,228 All we've got is one barrel of meat right now. 628 00:33:42,311 --> 00:33:43,563 That's all we've got. 629 00:33:46,232 --> 00:33:47,567 So they all getting half buckets? 630 00:33:47,650 --> 00:33:50,319 It's the Walmart meat trucks have sucked lately. 631 00:33:50,403 --> 00:33:53,489 We don't even have enough meat to do the wolves. This is ridiculous. 632 00:33:54,449 --> 00:33:56,325 Ah, no. 633 00:33:57,452 --> 00:34:00,538 Maintenance. It's like putting a band-aid on everything every day. 634 00:34:03,708 --> 00:34:05,501 I don't even have bear buckets today. 635 00:34:05,752 --> 00:34:07,170 I got one ham. 636 00:34:07,712 --> 00:34:09,130 We got chicken coming, so... 637 00:34:09,839 --> 00:34:10,882 You can feed heavy. 638 00:34:16,304 --> 00:34:17,597 Things got so bad, 639 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,441 we started negotiating with Carole and Howard on how to get out of it. 640 00:34:23,144 --> 00:34:26,522 And that's when I had mediation with Howard 641 00:34:26,606 --> 00:34:28,858 to try and settle the bullshit, 642 00:34:29,233 --> 00:34:30,777 you know, the lawsuit and everything. 643 00:34:32,904 --> 00:34:34,264 The prospect of collecting 644 00:34:34,322 --> 00:34:37,617 a million dollars from Joe was not real high, 645 00:34:37,700 --> 00:34:41,245 and I was willing to make concessions. 646 00:34:41,329 --> 00:34:44,749 He pointed out that his cash flow is very seasonal, 647 00:34:44,832 --> 00:34:46,667 that he has few visitors in the winter. 648 00:34:47,001 --> 00:34:49,962 What if we take these monthly payments 649 00:34:50,046 --> 00:34:52,632 and make them lower in the winter and bigger in the summer. 650 00:34:52,715 --> 00:34:55,885 So, there were four or five issues like that 651 00:34:56,010 --> 00:34:57,386 that I was willing to accommodate. 652 00:34:57,470 --> 00:35:01,140 We basically had a deal. 653 00:35:01,933 --> 00:35:03,533 Me and Howard came to an agreement. 654 00:35:03,559 --> 00:35:06,687 And then, he got Carole on the phone. 655 00:35:06,771 --> 00:35:09,440 And Carole got greedy. 656 00:35:09,774 --> 00:35:12,568 She wanted my mom and dad's house as collateral. 657 00:35:13,528 --> 00:35:14,821 That was a deal-breaker. 658 00:35:16,572 --> 00:35:17,990 Carole Baskin, 659 00:35:18,074 --> 00:35:21,202 you've already stripped me of just about everything I own. 660 00:35:22,829 --> 00:35:25,957 And you're gonna have to kill me to shut me up... 661 00:35:27,208 --> 00:35:29,460 because I'm gonna die a hero... 662 00:35:30,086 --> 00:35:31,879 and I'm gonna liberate... 663 00:35:33,881 --> 00:35:35,466 the animal world. 664 00:35:36,509 --> 00:35:40,471 It will be a cold day in hell before you beat me. 665 00:35:45,268 --> 00:35:46,936 God is in control. 666 00:35:47,687 --> 00:35:50,690 So he'll either pull me through this or... 667 00:35:52,441 --> 00:35:53,526 he won't. 668 00:36:10,710 --> 00:36:13,254 Jeff Lowe came on the scene sometime in 2015. 669 00:36:14,380 --> 00:36:17,466 He just brought the persona that he was gonna save the zoo, 670 00:36:17,758 --> 00:36:19,594 so we dubbed him "the Godfather." 671 00:36:22,054 --> 00:36:23,514 He says he's rich. 672 00:36:23,598 --> 00:36:24,599 He's all about money. 673 00:36:24,682 --> 00:36:26,684 It's money, money, money, money, money. 674 00:36:27,268 --> 00:36:30,354 My introduction to Jeff Lowe was, "Hey, Saff, this is our new investor." 675 00:36:30,938 --> 00:36:33,816 He came to the zoo. Talked with Joe mostly. 676 00:36:33,900 --> 00:36:36,235 He would need someplace to put 14 of his own cats. 677 00:36:37,987 --> 00:36:41,115 My grandfather owned... It was called Robbins Brothers Circus. 678 00:36:41,908 --> 00:36:44,327 It became the largest menagerie of animals on Earth 679 00:36:44,410 --> 00:36:45,995 with almost 100 elephants. 680 00:36:46,078 --> 00:36:48,581 I mean, this guy was... He had a ton of animals, 681 00:36:48,664 --> 00:36:53,211 and my first cats that I got were probably at 16 or 17 years old. 682 00:36:53,294 --> 00:36:56,589 Mountain lions and one tiger. 683 00:36:56,672 --> 00:36:58,799 What can I get you? What can I... 684 00:36:58,883 --> 00:37:01,302 Jeff was a businessman, for sure. 685 00:37:01,385 --> 00:37:06,098 You can tell he's been through the business world a few times. 686 00:37:08,976 --> 00:37:10,853 He flashes a Ferrari around. 687 00:37:11,437 --> 00:37:13,648 Rumor has it he has a jet. 688 00:37:14,232 --> 00:37:18,069 He would float back and forth from Vegas to Wynnewood a lot. 689 00:37:20,780 --> 00:37:21,906 He liked the party life. 690 00:37:21,989 --> 00:37:23,074 He liked the scene. 691 00:37:23,157 --> 00:37:26,744 Up all night, Ecstasy, all that stuff. I mean, that was just their style. 692 00:37:26,827 --> 00:37:29,580 And that was a big attractant for him because he's a swinger. 693 00:37:29,664 --> 00:37:31,457 You know, him and Lauren swing. 694 00:37:32,208 --> 00:37:34,961 They like to have sex with other women at the same time. 695 00:37:36,045 --> 00:37:37,922 They use the tigers to entice 'em in. 696 00:37:38,089 --> 00:37:40,549 So, he took a few cubs out to Vegas. 697 00:37:40,633 --> 00:37:42,468 So those are like bait to get girls? 698 00:37:42,551 --> 00:37:44,470 Oh yeah, it's good bait to get girls. 699 00:37:45,513 --> 00:37:47,473 Who doesn't want to play with a baby tiger? 700 00:37:47,556 --> 00:37:49,684 For, I guess, like, a really beautiful woman 701 00:37:49,767 --> 00:37:52,561 to get her picture with a cute little dangerous animal, 702 00:37:52,645 --> 00:37:55,231 it's like, "Oh, she's got a little spunk in her, too!" 703 00:37:55,314 --> 00:37:58,276 A little pussy gets you a lot of pussy. There you go... 704 00:37:59,026 --> 00:38:00,444 Yeah. 705 00:38:02,530 --> 00:38:06,200 He put tiger cubs into, like, a Louis Vuitton bag. 706 00:38:08,077 --> 00:38:11,247 He rolled them through the casino, up into the suites, 707 00:38:11,580 --> 00:38:14,580 and then brought people up to have play times with them and party with them. 708 00:38:14,625 --> 00:38:16,627 Oh, she loves you, honey. 709 00:38:17,211 --> 00:38:19,213 Basically, that was their free ride. 710 00:38:20,298 --> 00:38:22,842 And girls came from everywhere. 711 00:38:24,135 --> 00:38:27,513 He posted so many pictures of him in bed with girls, 712 00:38:27,596 --> 00:38:30,141 and Lauren in bed with girls, 713 00:38:30,224 --> 00:38:33,352 and it's the cats, it's really the cats that'll draw people in. 714 00:38:34,645 --> 00:38:37,231 Joe says, "Y'all want more? I'll give you more." 715 00:38:39,150 --> 00:38:40,818 He's a playboy, and he's never denied it. 716 00:38:46,824 --> 00:38:51,829 [Finlay Joe and Travis went out to the mansion that Jeff Lowe had. 717 00:38:52,163 --> 00:38:53,581 Great big fucking mansion, 718 00:38:53,664 --> 00:38:55,750 indoor swimming pool in the house and everything. 719 00:38:55,833 --> 00:38:57,501 Fucking crazy. 720 00:38:57,585 --> 00:39:00,546 Sitting here with Jeff Lowe. We have had a fun day. We went... 721 00:39:00,629 --> 00:39:02,423 He wines us and dines us, 722 00:39:02,506 --> 00:39:04,050 and goes and spends all this money 723 00:39:04,133 --> 00:39:07,094 on weed and everything else for Travis and... 724 00:39:07,178 --> 00:39:09,722 It was awesome. It was awesome. 725 00:39:11,390 --> 00:39:14,310 You know, I think he got up there, and he was enamored by the big house 726 00:39:14,435 --> 00:39:15,644 and fancy cars, 727 00:39:15,728 --> 00:39:18,230 and he thought that, "Here’s my next victim." 728 00:39:18,314 --> 00:39:20,566 What have you got? 729 00:39:20,649 --> 00:39:22,651 He had the money to fight Carole. 730 00:39:23,402 --> 00:39:25,279 I want two or three of those roller carts 731 00:39:25,363 --> 00:39:27,365 of hundred dollar bills you had in your warehouse. 732 00:39:28,866 --> 00:39:30,910 We might be able to get you one. 733 00:39:31,285 --> 00:39:33,954 I saw, like, Joe bow down to Jeff. 734 00:39:34,497 --> 00:39:36,624 And I didn't like that at all. 735 00:39:38,417 --> 00:39:42,088 Joe was kind of secretive about what was going on. 736 00:39:43,130 --> 00:39:44,130 Hey, guys. 737 00:39:45,383 --> 00:39:47,134 Welcome to free conference. 738 00:39:47,218 --> 00:39:49,720 They had a call inside the office. 739 00:39:49,887 --> 00:39:54,225 It was a conference call between Joe, Howard Baskin, and the attorneys. 740 00:39:55,267 --> 00:39:58,854 That was supposed to have been private, all of us had to go outside the office. 741 00:39:58,979 --> 00:40:02,400 But Jeff Lowe was actually in there, and he was laying low during the call. 742 00:40:02,483 --> 00:40:05,277 They thought they had Joe against the ropes because he was broke. 743 00:40:05,903 --> 00:40:08,155 Joe offered to pay them $5,000 a month. 744 00:40:08,823 --> 00:40:10,503 They said, "Well, that isn't good enough." 745 00:40:10,533 --> 00:40:12,743 She says, "We want $5,000 a month, 746 00:40:13,452 --> 00:40:16,956 and you're gonna stop breeding, and you're gonna stop cub petting." 747 00:40:17,665 --> 00:40:19,583 And Joe says, "Well, how do you think 748 00:40:19,667 --> 00:40:23,462 I can make the $5,000 a month to pay you, 749 00:40:23,546 --> 00:40:25,131 if it's not through what I do?" 750 00:40:25,714 --> 00:40:28,050 I just got sick of it, and I stepped up. 751 00:40:28,759 --> 00:40:30,678 So this is all just a waste of time. 752 00:40:30,761 --> 00:40:34,640 That settlement agreement is so far from acceptable. 753 00:40:34,723 --> 00:40:36,934 Whoa, whoa, whoa. Who's speaking, please? 754 00:40:37,226 --> 00:40:38,226 Jeff Lowe. 755 00:40:38,853 --> 00:40:41,123 - We need you to get off the call. - You know what? 756 00:40:41,147 --> 00:40:43,899 When I woke up this morning I was in a free fucking country! 757 00:40:44,650 --> 00:40:45,776 And I'm still there. 758 00:40:46,485 --> 00:40:49,655 And the mediator said, "If you won't get off the call, 759 00:40:49,738 --> 00:40:51,323 we have to terminate the call," 760 00:40:51,740 --> 00:40:54,076 and Jeff said, "Well, then, I just want to say..." 761 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,204 Howard, fuck yourself, and fuck your cunt wife. 762 00:40:57,288 --> 00:40:58,956 "...fuck Howard and his cunt wife." 763 00:41:04,378 --> 00:41:06,797 With Jeff Lowe coming in to help him, 764 00:41:07,298 --> 00:41:09,550 Joe believed that if he just 765 00:41:09,925 --> 00:41:11,385 convinced us that he had 766 00:41:11,469 --> 00:41:13,762 endless resources to keep the lawsuit going, 767 00:41:13,846 --> 00:41:16,015 we would suddenly fold our tent and go away, 768 00:41:16,098 --> 00:41:18,601 which, of course, we were not going to do. 769 00:41:19,185 --> 00:41:22,104 He owed 40 or 50,000 dollars to attorneys 770 00:41:22,188 --> 00:41:23,355 that were ready to... 771 00:41:23,856 --> 00:41:25,649 stop defending him in his lawsuit 772 00:41:25,941 --> 00:41:27,318 that he had with Carole Baskin. 773 00:41:27,401 --> 00:41:31,280 And they said, "We'll make it 35 if you can pay that." 774 00:41:31,530 --> 00:41:35,117 So, Jeff got a cashier's check for $35,000. 775 00:41:35,951 --> 00:41:38,662 And then my lawyers recommended 776 00:41:38,996 --> 00:41:43,125 that we just dissolve the Garold Wayne Interactive Zoo company 777 00:41:43,209 --> 00:41:45,669 and let Jeff open one in his name, 778 00:41:45,753 --> 00:41:48,672 so Carole would have to start the lawsuits all over again. 779 00:41:49,256 --> 00:41:51,217 So that's what we did. 780 00:41:52,134 --> 00:41:54,512 - Here's another $10,000 reward... - Cash! 781 00:41:54,595 --> 00:41:56,805 In cash. I'm not saying she did it. 782 00:41:56,889 --> 00:41:59,225 I'm saying if you have information 783 00:41:59,475 --> 00:42:03,521 that leads to her arrest, not even conviction, just her arrest. 784 00:42:04,104 --> 00:42:05,104 Wow. 785 00:42:05,189 --> 00:42:07,608 What do you know about Jeff Lowe? Like what... 786 00:42:07,691 --> 00:42:09,944 Only allegedly, not my business. 787 00:42:10,486 --> 00:42:12,696 Right? I'm not gonna tell on camera 788 00:42:12,780 --> 00:42:15,658 what's wrong with Jeff, so that one day, this becomes a lawsuit. 789 00:42:16,116 --> 00:42:17,116 You know? 790 00:42:17,743 --> 00:42:20,120 When I met Jeff Lowe, 791 00:42:20,663 --> 00:42:21,956 I thought I could trust him. 792 00:42:22,748 --> 00:42:25,042 And, oh, my god, shit hit the fan. 793 00:42:26,126 --> 00:42:28,462 I didn't know that mansion was rented. 794 00:42:29,046 --> 00:42:31,715 I didn't know that he was behind on Ferrari payments. 795 00:42:32,091 --> 00:42:35,719 And as soon as he got the zoo in his name, 796 00:42:36,595 --> 00:42:39,014 the evil side of Jeff and Lauren came out. 797 00:42:42,935 --> 00:42:44,019 Get out, Lauren. 798 00:42:44,436 --> 00:42:46,313 No, get! Get! 799 00:42:51,485 --> 00:42:53,125 - You all right? - Fine. 800 00:42:55,990 --> 00:42:58,784 And tell me what happened when Jeff Lowe got involved. 801 00:42:59,285 --> 00:43:00,578 Jeff Lowe stole the zoo. 802 00:43:01,579 --> 00:43:04,123 - Wait, say that again? - Jeff Lowe stole the zoo.65374

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