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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:08,486 --> 00:00:10,488 ♪ 2 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:31,466 Lucas. Looks like the word's out. 3 00:00:31,509 --> 00:00:33,468 You got the best game in town. 4 00:00:33,511 --> 00:00:36,645 Hope you've got room for me at the table tonight. 5 00:00:36,688 --> 00:00:38,821 I'm sorry, Viv. Not tonight. 6 00:00:39,865 --> 00:00:41,824 Hey. Lucas, come on. 7 00:00:41,867 --> 00:00:43,956 Have I ever left you high and dry before? 8 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:45,741 Well, word is you left Asher Ray 9 00:00:45,784 --> 00:00:47,264 very high and dry. 10 00:00:47,308 --> 00:00:48,787 And I don't have any interest 11 00:00:48,831 --> 00:00:52,052 in getting in line behind that guy when you lose my money. 12 00:00:55,316 --> 00:00:57,013 MAN: I don't like chamomile. 13 00:00:57,057 --> 00:00:58,884 How many times do I have to tell you? 14 00:00:58,928 --> 00:01:00,538 I want Earl Grey. 15 00:01:00,582 --> 00:01:01,844 WOMAN: But Earl Grey 16 00:01:01,887 --> 00:01:03,237 has caffeine in it. 17 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,630 You will never be able to get to sleep. 18 00:01:05,674 --> 00:01:06,936 Here. 19 00:01:06,979 --> 00:01:08,981 Just try this. I put some honey in it for you. 20 00:01:09,025 --> 00:01:11,332 I told you 21 00:01:11,375 --> 00:01:13,464 I don't want it! 22 00:01:13,508 --> 00:01:16,076 Idiot.All right, Dad, that's enough. 23 00:01:16,119 --> 00:01:18,339 Ha. You're home early. 24 00:01:18,382 --> 00:01:21,081 Couldn't get anyone to buy you a drink? 25 00:01:22,125 --> 00:01:23,213 VIVIAN: I've got this. 26 00:01:23,257 --> 00:01:25,172 Why don't you take off a little early? 27 00:01:25,215 --> 00:01:26,390 You sure? 28 00:01:26,434 --> 00:01:27,609 Oh, that's great. 29 00:01:27,652 --> 00:01:29,611 Reward her incompetence 30 00:01:29,654 --> 00:01:32,353 by sending her home halfway through her shift. 31 00:01:32,396 --> 00:01:34,006 I'm sure. 32 00:01:34,050 --> 00:01:36,052 Oh, that's right, 33 00:01:36,096 --> 00:01:37,619 I forgot. Money-- 34 00:01:37,662 --> 00:01:40,012 it's just a game to you. 35 00:01:40,056 --> 00:01:42,667 Out all hours at poker tables 36 00:01:42,711 --> 00:01:44,147 like some lowlife. 37 00:01:45,192 --> 00:01:48,151 Well, I'm sorry I disappointed you so. 38 00:01:48,195 --> 00:01:50,327 I'll be right back with some Earl Grey, Dad. 39 00:01:50,371 --> 00:01:52,068 Just the way you like it. 40 00:01:57,813 --> 00:02:00,163 You want your tea and pills yet? 41 00:02:00,207 --> 00:02:01,947 What's your rush? 42 00:02:01,991 --> 00:02:04,167 Give me a little time to wake up. 43 00:02:04,211 --> 00:02:06,300 I'm not trying to rush you, Dad. 44 00:02:06,343 --> 00:02:08,824 I just want to go upstairs and take a shower. 45 00:02:08,867 --> 00:02:10,913 I just want to be sure you're okay out here. 46 00:02:10,956 --> 00:02:13,785 Why shouldn't I be okay? I spend every morning out here. 47 00:02:13,829 --> 00:02:15,265 I know, Dad. 48 00:02:15,309 --> 00:02:18,094 But it's Cecilia's day off and I'm all alone 49 00:02:18,138 --> 00:02:20,705 and I won't be able to hear if you need anything. 50 00:02:20,749 --> 00:02:24,187 The only thing I need is for you to leave me alone! 51 00:02:24,231 --> 00:02:25,754 Okay, Dad. 52 00:02:27,190 --> 00:02:29,584 I'll be back in just a bit. 53 00:02:42,901 --> 00:02:44,947 You ready to come back in, Dad? 54 00:02:48,298 --> 00:02:51,127 You got your fresh air for the day? 55 00:02:54,783 --> 00:02:56,785 Oh, how'd that get there? 56 00:03:11,191 --> 00:03:13,280 Dad? 57 00:03:24,247 --> 00:03:26,206 BENNY: Patricide. 58 00:03:26,249 --> 00:03:28,208 Killing a parent. 59 00:03:28,251 --> 00:03:31,211 Ooh, that is a nasty thing to be accused of. 60 00:03:31,254 --> 00:03:33,125 Especially if you didn't do it. 61 00:03:33,169 --> 00:03:34,997 Mm. 62 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:36,999 So, who's Vivian Cahill? 63 00:03:37,042 --> 00:03:39,001 You've got the file. 64 00:03:39,044 --> 00:03:41,090 No, I mean, who is she to you? 65 00:03:41,133 --> 00:03:43,919 Old friend. 66 00:03:43,962 --> 00:03:47,314 Used to play the same poker game years ago. 67 00:03:47,357 --> 00:03:48,663 Mm. 68 00:03:48,706 --> 00:03:50,317 [laughs softly] Vivian. 69 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,102 She was just out of college and she could wipe the floor with me 70 00:03:53,145 --> 00:03:55,104 and anyone else in the room. 71 00:03:55,147 --> 00:03:56,192 And then? 72 00:03:56,236 --> 00:03:59,195 And then I stopped playing cards. 73 00:03:59,239 --> 00:04:00,805 According to the police report, 74 00:04:00,849 --> 00:04:03,808 your father died of blunt force trauma to the head. 75 00:04:03,852 --> 00:04:07,899 And the medical examiner has matched the wound to blood 76 00:04:07,943 --> 00:04:10,772 on a fireplace poker found at the scene. 77 00:04:10,815 --> 00:04:14,297 The police and paramedics who responded to your call 78 00:04:14,341 --> 00:04:17,213 said that you were the only one home with him 79 00:04:17,257 --> 00:04:18,649 at the time. 80 00:04:18,693 --> 00:04:21,783 I was upstairs, at the back of the house, showering. 81 00:04:21,826 --> 00:04:24,002 Blow-drying my hair. Anyone could've come in. 82 00:04:25,352 --> 00:04:27,745 Well, a-according to the reports, 83 00:04:27,789 --> 00:04:31,009 there were no signs of forced entry. 84 00:04:33,185 --> 00:04:35,318 My dad liked to sit alone out there 85 00:04:35,362 --> 00:04:37,102 for about an hour every morning. 86 00:04:37,146 --> 00:04:40,889 Last year he had a series of strokes. 87 00:04:40,932 --> 00:04:43,108 First one was in the summer. 88 00:04:43,152 --> 00:04:46,677 Since then he's pretty much always yelling at someone. 89 00:04:46,721 --> 00:04:48,462 Mostly, yours truly. 90 00:04:48,505 --> 00:04:51,552 Hmm. And you were living with your father? 91 00:04:53,031 --> 00:04:55,033 His health was declining pretty quickly, 92 00:04:55,077 --> 00:04:58,820 so I moved home to help him. 93 00:04:58,863 --> 00:05:00,822 Spend time with him. 94 00:05:00,865 --> 00:05:02,476 How was that going? 95 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,696 Not great. [laughs softly] 96 00:05:05,740 --> 00:05:07,307 Dad's always had a temper, 97 00:05:07,350 --> 00:05:10,527 and he could be pretty tough on me. 98 00:05:10,571 --> 00:05:12,790 Did your dad know about your gambling? 99 00:05:13,835 --> 00:05:15,358 Oh, yes. 100 00:05:15,402 --> 00:05:18,230 Not a fan. 101 00:05:18,274 --> 00:05:21,190 The occasional gentleman's game is one thing, 102 00:05:21,233 --> 00:05:23,366 but for his only daughter 103 00:05:23,410 --> 00:05:25,368 to be a lowlife, 104 00:05:25,412 --> 00:05:28,371 compulsive, degenerate gambler... 105 00:05:28,415 --> 00:05:30,025 [chuckles softly] 106 00:05:30,068 --> 00:05:32,419 Did you continue to gamble while you were living with him? 107 00:05:32,462 --> 00:05:34,856 Yes. 108 00:05:34,899 --> 00:05:37,293 It... 109 00:05:37,337 --> 00:05:39,948 it actually got a bit out of control. 110 00:05:39,991 --> 00:05:42,820 How big a hole we talking about? 111 00:05:43,865 --> 00:05:46,041 $300,000. 112 00:05:48,086 --> 00:05:49,218 Wow. 113 00:05:49,261 --> 00:05:52,395 That is a lot of money. 114 00:05:52,439 --> 00:05:54,832 And who do you owe the money to? 115 00:05:54,876 --> 00:05:57,052 A guy named Asher Ray. 116 00:05:57,095 --> 00:05:59,184 He runs a game out of Westport. 117 00:05:59,228 --> 00:06:01,012 And he's been breathing down my neck pretty hard 118 00:06:01,056 --> 00:06:02,405 to get his money. 119 00:06:02,449 --> 00:06:05,234 Well, I hate to be indelicate, but your dad's death 120 00:06:05,277 --> 00:06:07,802 kind of solved all of that, didn't it? 121 00:06:09,586 --> 00:06:11,458 How much do you stand to inherit? 122 00:06:12,284 --> 00:06:15,375 $27 million. 123 00:06:16,985 --> 00:06:19,335 So if I'm the prosecutor, 124 00:06:19,379 --> 00:06:21,729 this looks like patricide for profit. 125 00:06:21,772 --> 00:06:23,383 I know that. 126 00:06:25,341 --> 00:06:27,299 Hey, old friend. 127 00:06:27,343 --> 00:06:29,345 That's why I called you. 128 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,435 Mm. 129 00:06:32,479 --> 00:06:34,437 ♪ 130 00:06:40,138 --> 00:06:43,011 BENNY: [laughs] What a beautiful little girl. 131 00:06:43,054 --> 00:06:46,536 Oh, man. 132 00:06:46,580 --> 00:06:49,278 You guys come up with a name yet? 133 00:06:49,321 --> 00:06:51,498 Uh, no. Hospital keeps calling. 134 00:06:51,541 --> 00:06:52,977 They're acting like we're trying to pull a fast one. 135 00:06:53,021 --> 00:06:56,154 Well, it is a little peculiar, 136 00:06:56,198 --> 00:06:58,374 you not having a name for your child. 137 00:06:58,418 --> 00:07:01,203 It's not like you didn't have nine months to think about it. 138 00:07:01,246 --> 00:07:03,727 Ah. We just have very different points of view. 139 00:07:03,771 --> 00:07:05,468 You have a name in your head? 140 00:07:05,512 --> 00:07:08,297 Actually, yeah. 141 00:07:08,340 --> 00:07:11,256 When I look at her, I see Ingrid. 142 00:07:11,300 --> 00:07:12,693 Ingrid.Yeah. 143 00:07:12,736 --> 00:07:14,085 That's such a pretty name. 144 00:07:15,565 --> 00:07:18,176 Your sister's convinced she's an Asa. 145 00:07:18,220 --> 00:07:19,177 Asa? 146 00:07:19,221 --> 00:07:22,180 A-S-A. 147 00:07:22,224 --> 00:07:25,706 Asa. Means goddess. 148 00:07:25,749 --> 00:07:28,926 Oh. That's a good one, too. 149 00:07:28,970 --> 00:07:31,320 You are gonna be no help at all on this, 150 00:07:31,363 --> 00:07:32,930 are you?Nope. 151 00:07:32,974 --> 00:07:34,845 I was not born yesterday, sir. 152 00:07:34,889 --> 00:07:36,630 So... 153 00:07:36,673 --> 00:07:37,805 Voir dire. Talk to me. 154 00:07:37,848 --> 00:07:38,980 What are we looking for? 155 00:07:40,024 --> 00:07:42,418 It's actually pretty simple. 156 00:07:42,462 --> 00:07:44,420 I think we want jurors who will 157 00:07:44,464 --> 00:07:47,510 look at Vivian and see someone so sharp, 158 00:07:47,554 --> 00:07:49,338 so well-adjusted, that they're just gonna 159 00:07:49,381 --> 00:07:51,035 reject the idea that she'd be involved 160 00:07:51,079 --> 00:07:54,212 in something as heinous and perverse as patricide. 161 00:07:54,256 --> 00:07:55,387 Mm. 162 00:07:55,431 --> 00:07:59,000 So... what am I looking for? 163 00:07:59,043 --> 00:08:01,742 People from close, happy families 164 00:08:01,785 --> 00:08:04,614 who'd never dream of hurting a loved one? 165 00:08:04,658 --> 00:08:07,704 No. It's quite the opposite. 166 00:08:07,748 --> 00:08:10,315 We want people from complicated, 167 00:08:10,359 --> 00:08:12,535 dysfunctional families. 168 00:08:12,579 --> 00:08:15,016 The more difficult their home life, the better. 169 00:08:15,059 --> 00:08:16,408 People who know that just 'cause you want 170 00:08:16,452 --> 00:08:18,019 to kill a family member doesn't mean 171 00:08:18,062 --> 00:08:19,586 that you actually would kill them. 172 00:08:19,629 --> 00:08:21,762 So... 173 00:08:21,805 --> 00:08:24,155 who here spent the holidays 174 00:08:24,199 --> 00:08:25,766 with their family? 175 00:08:26,810 --> 00:08:28,203 Wow. 176 00:08:28,246 --> 00:08:29,813 So, you spent 177 00:08:29,857 --> 00:08:32,250 the holidays with your family and lived to tell about it. 178 00:08:32,294 --> 00:08:34,078 Yes, I did and yes, I did. 179 00:08:34,122 --> 00:08:36,777 Okay, all right, all right. So, how was it? 180 00:08:36,820 --> 00:08:38,039 Fantastic. 181 00:08:38,082 --> 00:08:40,345 My husband, kids and I rent a cabin every year 182 00:08:40,389 --> 00:08:43,348 with my two sisters and their families. 183 00:08:43,392 --> 00:08:46,874 It's not fancy, but we always have a great time. 184 00:08:46,917 --> 00:08:49,877 So, no fighting? No raised voices? 185 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:51,443 Of course not. 186 00:08:53,141 --> 00:08:55,404 Liar, liar, pants on fire. 187 00:08:55,447 --> 00:08:58,015 Either that or there's a whole lot of drinking going on. 188 00:09:00,627 --> 00:09:01,976 Your Honor... 189 00:09:02,019 --> 00:09:03,499 [grunts] 190 00:09:03,543 --> 00:09:06,981 ...we'd like to, uh, thank and excuse this juror. 191 00:09:07,024 --> 00:09:10,550 And what about you, sir? 192 00:09:10,593 --> 00:09:13,378 Did you spend the holidays with your family? 193 00:09:13,422 --> 00:09:14,989 Afraid so. 194 00:09:15,032 --> 00:09:16,991 I take it it wasn't fantastic? 195 00:09:17,034 --> 00:09:20,429 It was three days of listening to my brother humblebrag 196 00:09:20,472 --> 00:09:23,693 about his big job and his hot girlfriend. 197 00:09:23,737 --> 00:09:25,303 And wanting to shove fruitcake 198 00:09:25,347 --> 00:09:28,568 down my gluten-free, macrobiotic stepmom's throat. 199 00:09:28,611 --> 00:09:30,744 All of that while dogs barked, 200 00:09:30,787 --> 00:09:34,574 kids screamed and the worst music you ever heard 201 00:09:34,617 --> 00:09:36,053 played nonstop. 202 00:09:36,097 --> 00:09:38,839 Mm. My condolences. 203 00:09:38,882 --> 00:09:42,059 You ever think about just skipping it? 204 00:09:42,103 --> 00:09:43,887 Not going? 205 00:09:43,931 --> 00:09:46,586 You mean not show up for Christmas with my family? 206 00:09:46,629 --> 00:09:49,589 Sure. People do it. 207 00:09:50,633 --> 00:09:52,417 Not me. 208 00:09:52,461 --> 00:09:55,595 I mean, my family drives me nuts, but they're my family. 209 00:09:57,422 --> 00:10:01,296 Your Honor, the defense finds this juror acceptable. 210 00:10:01,339 --> 00:10:03,037 Nice work today in court, sir. 211 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:04,429 You want to grab some lunch? 212 00:10:04,473 --> 00:10:07,476 Uh, actually, I'm thinking about skipping it. 213 00:10:13,308 --> 00:10:14,788 Are you okay? 214 00:10:14,831 --> 00:10:17,051 Yeah, I'm fine. 215 00:10:17,094 --> 00:10:20,228 I just ate something I shouldn't have for breakfast. 216 00:10:20,271 --> 00:10:22,926 Hey. I think I'm just gonna sit here. 217 00:10:22,970 --> 00:10:25,189 You get yourself something to eat. 218 00:10:25,233 --> 00:10:27,539 That is not gonna happen. 219 00:10:27,583 --> 00:10:29,106 Maybe we should get you to see a doctor? 220 00:10:29,150 --> 00:10:31,282 No, no, no, no. I'm-I'm good. 221 00:10:31,326 --> 00:10:33,589 I'm telling you, it's no big deal. 222 00:10:33,633 --> 00:10:36,636 Hey, that is some jury we snagged, huh? 223 00:10:37,680 --> 00:10:39,464 Well, yeah. 224 00:10:39,508 --> 00:10:41,423 Over two-thirds of them haven't prejudged Vivian. 225 00:10:41,466 --> 00:10:44,644 I'd say that's once in a lifetime. 226 00:10:47,603 --> 00:10:49,083 [exhales] 227 00:10:51,346 --> 00:10:53,957 Now if I could just convince you 228 00:10:54,001 --> 00:10:55,698 to get in a car with me and go to the emergency room, 229 00:10:55,742 --> 00:10:57,308 so someone could take a look at you? 230 00:10:57,352 --> 00:10:59,659 Well, that's not gonna happen. 231 00:10:59,702 --> 00:11:01,791 And how long did you work as a home health care worker 232 00:11:01,835 --> 00:11:03,445 for the defendant and her father? 233 00:11:03,488 --> 00:11:06,796 I worked in their home for a little over four months. 234 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,930 BARRETT: And during that time, did you become aware 235 00:11:09,973 --> 00:11:12,976 that the defendant was deeply in debt to someone? 236 00:11:16,458 --> 00:11:18,242 Yes. 237 00:11:18,286 --> 00:11:20,549 And how did you come to know this? 238 00:11:21,593 --> 00:11:22,812 One day, um, 239 00:11:22,856 --> 00:11:24,988 when I was working for Mr. Cahill, 240 00:11:25,032 --> 00:11:27,512 um, a man came to see Vivian. 241 00:11:27,556 --> 00:11:29,601 I was in the next room, 242 00:11:29,645 --> 00:11:30,994 and it got pretty loud. 243 00:11:31,038 --> 00:11:32,909 BARRETT: And what was said that led you to believe 244 00:11:32,953 --> 00:11:34,824 Vivian owed money to this man? 245 00:11:34,868 --> 00:11:36,870 Everything. 246 00:11:36,913 --> 00:11:38,567 He was yelling that she owed him 247 00:11:38,610 --> 00:11:40,264 hundreds of thousands of dollars. 248 00:11:40,308 --> 00:11:42,658 That did she really think that he'd 249 00:11:42,702 --> 00:11:44,051 just turn and look the other way? 250 00:11:44,094 --> 00:11:46,009 BARRETT: And how did the defendant respond to that? 251 00:11:46,053 --> 00:11:48,490 She told him that she didn't have 252 00:11:48,533 --> 00:11:49,839 any money to give him right then. 253 00:11:49,883 --> 00:11:52,146 That he needed to be patient. 254 00:11:52,189 --> 00:11:55,366 Did this seem to satisfy him? 255 00:11:55,410 --> 00:11:56,628 No. 256 00:11:56,672 --> 00:11:58,805 He said people were coming down on him. 257 00:11:58,848 --> 00:12:01,677 People that he owed money to. 258 00:12:01,721 --> 00:12:04,680 And how did the defendant respond to that? 259 00:12:04,724 --> 00:12:07,465 [sighs] She begged him for more time. 260 00:12:07,509 --> 00:12:11,339 And swore that she will pay it all back when her dad died 261 00:12:11,382 --> 00:12:14,037 and she came into her inheritance. 262 00:12:14,081 --> 00:12:15,647 So Vivian was counting 263 00:12:15,691 --> 00:12:18,694 on her father's death to bail her out of trouble? 264 00:12:18,738 --> 00:12:20,827 [gavel bangs] 265 00:12:20,870 --> 00:12:22,829 Objection. Calls for speculation. 266 00:12:22,872 --> 00:12:25,701 WALLACE: Sustained. Ask another question, Counselor. 267 00:12:25,745 --> 00:12:28,356 I have no further questions, Your Honor. 268 00:12:28,399 --> 00:12:30,314 Your witness, 269 00:12:30,358 --> 00:12:32,403 Mr. Colón. 270 00:12:42,065 --> 00:12:44,676 Hey. 271 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:46,766 [grunts] 272 00:12:46,809 --> 00:12:48,245 So, this, uh... 273 00:12:48,289 --> 00:12:49,943 [clears throat] 274 00:12:49,986 --> 00:12:52,772 ...man who, uh, came to see Vivian-- 275 00:12:52,815 --> 00:12:55,122 did you get a good look at him? 276 00:12:55,165 --> 00:12:57,689 Yes, I did. 277 00:12:57,733 --> 00:12:59,169 And was he a big guy? 278 00:12:59,213 --> 00:13:02,607 Yes, at least six foot, one, maybe six foot, two. 279 00:13:02,651 --> 00:13:04,522 Lots of muscles. 280 00:13:04,566 --> 00:13:07,525 So, it is safe to say this man 281 00:13:07,569 --> 00:13:09,136 that Vivian owed money to 282 00:13:09,179 --> 00:13:11,573 was bigger and stronger than she was? 283 00:13:11,616 --> 00:13:13,357 Yes, much. 284 00:13:13,401 --> 00:13:16,099 And, so, this big, strong man-- 285 00:13:16,143 --> 00:13:18,536 he obviously knew where 286 00:13:18,580 --> 00:13:20,625 Terrence Cahill lived. 287 00:13:20,669 --> 00:13:24,281 Obviously knew he... had a nice house. 288 00:13:24,325 --> 00:13:27,502 Obviously knew he had lots of money? 289 00:13:27,545 --> 00:13:28,633 Yes. 290 00:13:31,941 --> 00:13:33,856 Are you all right, Mr. Colón? 291 00:13:33,900 --> 00:13:34,988 Yes, Your Honor. 292 00:13:35,031 --> 00:13:36,816 Yes, I am, uh... 293 00:13:36,859 --> 00:13:39,775 I'm fine, thank you. 294 00:13:39,819 --> 00:13:43,126 Now, this, uh, man also knew 295 00:13:43,170 --> 00:13:46,608 that Vivian's dad needed to die 296 00:13:46,651 --> 00:13:49,654 before she'd be able to pay him back, isn't that right? 297 00:13:49,698 --> 00:13:51,743 Well, that's what it sounded like. 298 00:13:51,787 --> 00:13:54,877 So, uh... which would you say 299 00:13:54,921 --> 00:13:56,487 is more likely-- 300 00:13:56,531 --> 00:14:00,100 that, uh, Vivian, who put her life on hold 301 00:14:00,143 --> 00:14:03,103 to take care of her father, bludgeoned him to death 302 00:14:03,146 --> 00:14:05,757 with a fireplace tool, or thatObjection! 303 00:14:05,801 --> 00:14:07,542 the big strong manMr. Colón. 304 00:14:07,585 --> 00:14:09,413 broke into her house with the intention 305 00:14:09,457 --> 00:14:10,632 of endingMr. Colón. 306 00:14:10,675 --> 00:14:12,764 Mr. Cahill's life to get his money back? 307 00:14:12,808 --> 00:14:14,027 Mr. Colón.[gavel bangs] 308 00:14:14,070 --> 00:14:15,898 Sustained. 309 00:14:15,942 --> 00:14:17,857 The jury will disregard that last question. 310 00:14:19,162 --> 00:14:20,772 No, they won't. 311 00:14:20,816 --> 00:14:22,644 Mr. Colón, 312 00:14:22,687 --> 00:14:23,993 are you sure you're all right? 313 00:14:26,082 --> 00:14:27,040 Benny! 314 00:14:27,083 --> 00:14:28,693 What is it? What's happening? 315 00:14:28,737 --> 00:14:31,827 Benny, can you hear me? Someone call 911. 316 00:14:36,049 --> 00:14:38,181 Are you the gentleman who came in with Mr. Colón? 317 00:14:38,225 --> 00:14:39,443 Yes, I am, uh... 318 00:14:39,487 --> 00:14:42,316 How's he doing, is he okay? 319 00:14:42,359 --> 00:14:44,013 Are you family, sir? 320 00:14:44,057 --> 00:14:46,450 I'm his brother-in-law. 321 00:14:46,494 --> 00:14:48,496 So, is everything all right? 322 00:14:48,539 --> 00:14:49,976 Uh, do you have any idea what's going on? 323 00:14:50,019 --> 00:14:51,803 His appendix burst. 324 00:14:51,847 --> 00:14:53,980 At the moment, we're in the process of preparing him 325 00:14:54,023 --> 00:14:55,503 for emergency surgery. 326 00:14:55,546 --> 00:14:57,722 But he's gonna be okay, right? 327 00:14:57,766 --> 00:14:59,246 Well, it's always better when we catch 328 00:14:59,289 --> 00:15:00,856 these things before they burst. 329 00:15:00,900 --> 00:15:02,727 The surgery and the recovery are always 330 00:15:02,771 --> 00:15:05,034 a little more involved after they've ruptured. 331 00:15:05,078 --> 00:15:07,384 But still, it's an appendix. 332 00:15:07,428 --> 00:15:09,299 You guys do this sort of thing all the time. 333 00:15:09,343 --> 00:15:10,735 He should be out of here in what, 334 00:15:10,779 --> 00:15:12,694 a day, day and a half?Mm, 335 00:15:12,737 --> 00:15:15,305 not quite. Unfortunately, once the appendix bursts, 336 00:15:15,349 --> 00:15:19,005 it releases all manner of infectious agents into the body. 337 00:15:19,048 --> 00:15:21,964 He could be battling potential infections for weeks. 338 00:15:22,008 --> 00:15:23,661 And, he needs to be monitored. 339 00:15:23,705 --> 00:15:25,968 Weeks? 340 00:15:26,012 --> 00:15:27,622 You gonna tell the court about Benny? 341 00:15:27,665 --> 00:15:29,319 Kind of have to. 342 00:15:29,363 --> 00:15:30,973 Damn. 343 00:15:31,017 --> 00:15:33,367 That was an amazing jury. 344 00:15:33,410 --> 00:15:35,673 Well, there's no way the judge holds on to that jury 345 00:15:35,717 --> 00:15:37,458 until Benny recovers. 346 00:15:37,501 --> 00:15:39,677 She'll probably declare a mistrial 347 00:15:39,721 --> 00:15:41,418 and we'll have to start all over again 348 00:15:41,462 --> 00:15:44,160 when Benny's back in action. 349 00:15:44,204 --> 00:15:47,424 [indistinct announcement over P.A.] 350 00:15:47,468 --> 00:15:50,601 Do you think there might be a chance that I... 351 00:15:50,645 --> 00:15:52,299 could cover for him? 352 00:15:52,342 --> 00:15:55,084 Cover in a murder trial? 353 00:15:55,128 --> 00:15:57,130 You haven't even graduated law school. 354 00:15:57,173 --> 00:16:00,002 No offense, but... no. 355 00:16:00,046 --> 00:16:02,613 All right, just thought I'd put it out there. 356 00:16:05,312 --> 00:16:08,054 You know, it says here that Connecticut courts 357 00:16:08,097 --> 00:16:09,838 actually allow law student interns much more latitude 358 00:16:09,881 --> 00:16:11,448 than they do in New York. 359 00:16:11,492 --> 00:16:14,364 Well, latitude is one thing, but allowing a law student 360 00:16:14,408 --> 00:16:16,410 to sit first chair on a murder case... 361 00:16:16,453 --> 00:16:19,935 seems like a reach to me. 362 00:16:19,979 --> 00:16:22,111 And whatever the case, I'm sure they require 363 00:16:22,155 --> 00:16:24,635 students to be supervised by a bar-certified attorney, 364 00:16:24,679 --> 00:16:27,421 and with Benny in the hospital, who's that gonna be, hmm? 365 00:16:27,464 --> 00:16:29,031 I don't know, is there any reason 366 00:16:29,075 --> 00:16:30,772 it couldn't just be Benny himself? 367 00:16:30,815 --> 00:16:33,514 If that doctor is right, and Benny's just gonna be 368 00:16:33,557 --> 00:16:35,516 lying around the hospital for a couple of weeks, 369 00:16:35,559 --> 00:16:39,172 Chunk could text him, call him, e-mail him. 370 00:16:40,477 --> 00:16:43,176 With the court's permission, I'd like to take over 371 00:16:43,219 --> 00:16:46,005 for my colleague Benjamin Colón, who had a medical emergency 372 00:16:46,048 --> 00:16:47,441 yesterday and will be hospitalized 373 00:16:47,484 --> 00:16:49,399 for the next few weeks. 374 00:16:49,443 --> 00:16:52,054 I have fully informed Ms. Cahill of my status 375 00:16:52,098 --> 00:16:54,056 as a third-year law student and she's consented 376 00:16:54,100 --> 00:16:55,101 to my representation. 377 00:16:55,144 --> 00:16:58,887 This is my application to the court 378 00:16:58,930 --> 00:17:00,715 to appear as a student intern 379 00:17:00,758 --> 00:17:02,673 under Section 314. 380 00:17:02,717 --> 00:17:04,936 And that is a letter from Benjamin Colón, 381 00:17:04,980 --> 00:17:07,287 a member in good standing of the Connecticut Bar for over 382 00:17:07,330 --> 00:17:10,986 20 years, saying that he would supervise me throughout trial. 383 00:17:11,030 --> 00:17:13,423 Section 314 specifically states 384 00:17:13,467 --> 00:17:17,297 that the supervising attorney must be present in court. 385 00:17:17,340 --> 00:17:19,038 How's that gonna work 386 00:17:19,081 --> 00:17:20,691 if Mr. Colón's in the hospital? 387 00:17:20,735 --> 00:17:23,433 Well, I'd make it my business to check in with him regularly. 388 00:17:23,477 --> 00:17:24,478 And Dr. Bull, 389 00:17:24,521 --> 00:17:26,480 who's overseen hundreds of trials, 390 00:17:26,523 --> 00:17:28,525 will be present in court every day. 391 00:17:28,569 --> 00:17:29,700 Every minute, Your Honor. 392 00:17:29,744 --> 00:17:30,919 BARRETT: With all due respect, 393 00:17:30,962 --> 00:17:34,270 Your Honor, Dr. Bull isn't a lawyer. 394 00:17:34,314 --> 00:17:37,143 And allowing a law student to sit first chair 395 00:17:37,186 --> 00:17:39,580 at a murder trial without a licensed attorney present 396 00:17:39,623 --> 00:17:41,321 practically guarantees a successful 397 00:17:41,364 --> 00:17:44,106 "ineffective assistance of counsel" appeal. 398 00:17:44,150 --> 00:17:46,413 CHUNK: I don't know if you've noticed, Your Honor, 399 00:17:46,456 --> 00:17:49,111 but I'm not your typical 20-something law student. 400 00:17:49,155 --> 00:17:51,200 I've had quite a few years of life experience 401 00:17:51,244 --> 00:17:54,334 under my belt before I started law school. 402 00:17:54,377 --> 00:17:57,119 That experience included working on more murder trials 403 00:17:57,163 --> 00:18:00,601 at TAC than most attorneys handle in their lifetime. 404 00:18:00,644 --> 00:18:02,385 And once I started law school, 405 00:18:02,429 --> 00:18:04,953 I first chaired a number of complicated criminal trials 406 00:18:04,996 --> 00:18:06,476 for our legal aid clinic. 407 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:07,695 BARRETT: Your Honor, the rule 408 00:18:07,738 --> 00:18:08,739 is very clear... 409 00:18:08,783 --> 00:18:10,219 The rule is in place to protect 410 00:18:10,263 --> 00:18:11,829 the client's best interests. 411 00:18:11,873 --> 00:18:15,485 Well, I fail to see how Ms. Cahill's best interests 412 00:18:15,529 --> 00:18:17,226 are being protected by a mistrial. 413 00:18:17,270 --> 00:18:18,575 Ms. Cahill has been 414 00:18:18,619 --> 00:18:20,229 in custody during trial. 415 00:18:20,273 --> 00:18:22,710 A mistrial would simply prolong the incarceration 416 00:18:22,753 --> 00:18:25,452 of an innocent woman, until God knows 417 00:18:25,495 --> 00:18:27,584 when we can get ourselves back on the trial calendar. 418 00:18:27,628 --> 00:18:29,543 I'm sure Your Honor can make room on her calendar. 419 00:18:29,586 --> 00:18:31,066 Furthermore, 420 00:18:31,110 --> 00:18:33,503 if a defendant can represent themselves pro se in court, 421 00:18:33,547 --> 00:18:36,115 shouldn't they be allowed to choose a representative, 422 00:18:36,158 --> 00:18:39,466 who is much more qualified than themselves to...WALLACE: All right. 423 00:18:39,509 --> 00:18:40,597 All right. 424 00:18:40,641 --> 00:18:42,077 You're obviously able to craft 425 00:18:42,121 --> 00:18:43,992 a very persuasive legal argument. 426 00:18:45,602 --> 00:18:48,388 I'm granting a special dispensation 427 00:18:48,431 --> 00:18:50,694 that allows you to step in. 428 00:18:52,522 --> 00:18:55,569 But I better not come to regret this decision, 429 00:18:55,612 --> 00:18:58,398 or youwill come to regret this decision. 430 00:18:58,441 --> 00:19:00,269 Are we clear, Mr. Palmer? 431 00:19:00,313 --> 00:19:01,618 We are, Your Honor. 432 00:19:01,662 --> 00:19:03,490 Thank you, Your Honor. 433 00:19:05,753 --> 00:19:07,581 Well, the good news is 434 00:19:07,624 --> 00:19:10,975 your temperature is coming down. 435 00:19:11,019 --> 00:19:13,543 And your blood pressure is getting close to normal. 436 00:19:13,587 --> 00:19:15,197 Ah, that's great. 437 00:19:15,241 --> 00:19:17,765 Um... do you think there's any chance 438 00:19:17,808 --> 00:19:19,636 I might get discharged early? 439 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,639 I-I'm in the middle of a very important trial... 440 00:19:22,683 --> 00:19:23,988 First of all, that's a doctor question. 441 00:19:24,032 --> 00:19:25,990 Second of all, nobody said anything 442 00:19:26,034 --> 00:19:28,428 about anybody getting discharged. 443 00:19:28,471 --> 00:19:30,647 Your body still needs plenty of rest. 444 00:19:30,691 --> 00:19:31,953 Okay. 445 00:19:31,996 --> 00:19:34,608 Well, you are very persuasive. 446 00:19:34,651 --> 00:19:35,826 You win. 447 00:19:35,870 --> 00:19:37,480 Rest it is.Mm-hmm. 448 00:19:37,524 --> 00:19:39,439 You say so. 449 00:19:40,527 --> 00:19:42,529 [door closes] 450 00:19:52,843 --> 00:19:54,889 Benny, how you feeling? 451 00:19:54,932 --> 00:19:57,500 Oof. I'm a little sore, but... 452 00:19:57,544 --> 00:20:00,242 all my major parts seem to be working. 453 00:20:00,286 --> 00:20:02,549 So, how-how's the trial going? 454 00:20:02,592 --> 00:20:04,942 Was there a witness on the stand? Who-who is it? 455 00:20:04,986 --> 00:20:07,467 How is Chunk doing? Is he doing okay? 456 00:20:07,510 --> 00:20:09,904 The medical examiner's on the stand and it's going fine. 457 00:20:09,947 --> 00:20:11,688 Don't start getting stressed out over this. 458 00:20:11,732 --> 00:20:13,255 You are supposed to be recuperating. 459 00:20:13,299 --> 00:20:14,256 Hey. 460 00:20:14,300 --> 00:20:15,866 I'm also supposed to be 461 00:20:15,910 --> 00:20:18,042 supervising Chunk. 462 00:20:18,086 --> 00:20:20,044 I sent a letter to the judge saying 463 00:20:20,088 --> 00:20:21,916 that I am personally responsible for his work. 464 00:20:21,959 --> 00:20:23,657 And I'm sure that Chunk will check in with you 465 00:20:23,700 --> 00:20:26,268 as soon as he can, but until he is on a recess, 466 00:20:26,312 --> 00:20:27,748 you should rest. 467 00:20:27,791 --> 00:20:29,184 BAILIFF: Court is adjourned 468 00:20:29,228 --> 00:20:31,142 for a ten-minute recess. 469 00:20:35,234 --> 00:20:36,278 Bull? 470 00:20:36,322 --> 00:20:38,280 Sorry to intrude. 471 00:20:38,324 --> 00:20:39,716 Well, intrude away. 472 00:20:41,370 --> 00:20:43,546 Well, uh, I found a something 473 00:20:43,590 --> 00:20:45,331 that may be a nothing. 474 00:20:45,374 --> 00:20:46,810 But a something that's a nothing is better 475 00:20:46,854 --> 00:20:48,334 than the absolutely nothing we already have. 476 00:20:48,377 --> 00:20:49,552 You got that right. 477 00:20:49,596 --> 00:20:51,032 And this something that may be a nothing? 478 00:20:51,075 --> 00:20:52,729 Well, I spoke with a dog walker who was working 479 00:20:52,773 --> 00:20:54,165 in the neighborhood that morning and she says 480 00:20:54,209 --> 00:20:56,951 she saw a man running down Cahill's street 481 00:20:56,994 --> 00:20:58,866 around the time of his death. 482 00:20:58,909 --> 00:21:00,346 Could be our killer. 483 00:21:00,389 --> 00:21:02,304 Or it could be a guy out for a jog. 484 00:21:02,348 --> 00:21:04,306 Does he at least fit the description of the man 485 00:21:04,350 --> 00:21:06,265 who came to Vivian's home? 486 00:21:06,308 --> 00:21:09,355 Or does he perhaps look like Asher Ray? 487 00:21:09,398 --> 00:21:10,921 Well, it was cold, 488 00:21:10,965 --> 00:21:13,228 and he was wearing a coat with a hood. 489 00:21:13,272 --> 00:21:14,708 So she didn't get a very good look at his face, 490 00:21:14,751 --> 00:21:16,666 but she is prepared to testify that he was 491 00:21:16,710 --> 00:21:18,189 a big guy with dark hair 492 00:21:18,233 --> 00:21:19,669 in the right place at the right time. 493 00:21:19,713 --> 00:21:22,803 Big guy, dark hair. Right place, right time, 494 00:21:22,846 --> 00:21:24,152 walking down the street. 495 00:21:24,195 --> 00:21:25,936 So that's definitely a nothing. 496 00:21:25,980 --> 00:21:27,329 I said a nothing that may be a something. 497 00:21:27,373 --> 00:21:29,157 That's a distinction without a difference. 498 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,333 DANNY: You say tomato, I say a place to start. 499 00:21:31,377 --> 00:21:34,423 She claims he was wearing a blue parka 500 00:21:34,467 --> 00:21:35,903 with a red stripe down each arm. 501 00:21:35,946 --> 00:21:37,818 I'm gonna go through all the security footage 502 00:21:37,861 --> 00:21:40,168 Taylor can hack into within a quarter mile of the house, 503 00:21:40,211 --> 00:21:43,040 see if I can find him and perhaps get a look at his face, 504 00:21:43,084 --> 00:21:45,478 or his car, something.Okay, uh, 505 00:21:45,521 --> 00:21:47,044 question from the peanut gallery. 506 00:21:47,088 --> 00:21:48,350 This witness-- did she happen to mention 507 00:21:48,394 --> 00:21:50,178 whether or not she'd spoken to the police? 508 00:21:50,221 --> 00:21:52,572 No. They never questioned her. 509 00:21:52,615 --> 00:21:54,269 Although I can't fault them. 510 00:21:55,401 --> 00:21:57,141 Bull's not wrong. 511 00:21:57,185 --> 00:21:59,753 All of this is really the very definition of a long shot. 512 00:21:59,796 --> 00:22:03,365 Yeah, maybe it is, maybe it isn't. 513 00:22:03,409 --> 00:22:06,237 Detective Jacobson, during your investigation, 514 00:22:06,281 --> 00:22:08,457 did you have an opportunity to speak 515 00:22:08,501 --> 00:22:10,938 to someone named Jami Schaefer? 516 00:22:10,981 --> 00:22:13,027 Not that I recall. 517 00:22:13,070 --> 00:22:16,335 Well, let me jog your memory. 518 00:22:16,378 --> 00:22:18,337 She's a dog walker who was working 519 00:22:18,380 --> 00:22:20,426 in Terrence Cahill's neighborhood 520 00:22:20,469 --> 00:22:21,644 the morning of the murder. 521 00:22:21,688 --> 00:22:24,255 Does that ring a bell?No. 522 00:22:24,299 --> 00:22:25,779 I'm sorry, I don't recall any dog walker 523 00:22:25,822 --> 00:22:27,041 or anyone with that name. 524 00:22:28,434 --> 00:22:30,349 Really? 525 00:22:30,392 --> 00:22:32,960 Well, she was in the area. 526 00:22:33,003 --> 00:22:35,658 If there was something or someone to see, 527 00:22:35,702 --> 00:22:37,443 she might well have seen it. 528 00:22:37,486 --> 00:22:39,445 An investigative lapse 529 00:22:39,488 --> 00:22:41,360 like this makes me wonder how many other 530 00:22:41,403 --> 00:22:44,450 potential witnesses you missed.Objection. 531 00:22:44,493 --> 00:22:46,452 Is counselor gonna ask a question 532 00:22:46,495 --> 00:22:48,105 or just posture for the jury? 533 00:22:48,149 --> 00:22:49,585 My apologies, Your Honor. 534 00:22:49,629 --> 00:22:53,415 I'm-I'm just trying to understand how the detective can 535 00:22:53,459 --> 00:22:56,331 be so certain that he's arrested the right person when he didn't 536 00:22:56,375 --> 00:22:57,898 speak to all of the potential witnesses. 537 00:22:57,941 --> 00:22:59,943 Your Honor, he's still doing it. 538 00:22:59,987 --> 00:23:03,382 Not to mention citing facts not in evidence 539 00:23:03,425 --> 00:23:05,427 and events for which there is no foundation. 540 00:23:05,471 --> 00:23:09,170 Our little Chunk playing dirty. Makes me so proud. 541 00:23:09,213 --> 00:23:12,521 Objection sustained. We know you're new at this, 542 00:23:12,565 --> 00:23:15,219 Counselor, but you're supposed to ask the questions 543 00:23:15,263 --> 00:23:17,613 and he's supposed to make the statements. 544 00:23:17,657 --> 00:23:19,180 So ask a question. 545 00:23:20,486 --> 00:23:22,923 Will do, Your Honor. 546 00:23:22,966 --> 00:23:26,579 Detective Jacobson, would it surprise you to learn 547 00:23:26,622 --> 00:23:29,059 that Ms. Schaefer said that she saw a man 548 00:23:29,103 --> 00:23:30,757 running down the street, away from 549 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,803 the Cahill house around the time of his death? 550 00:23:33,847 --> 00:23:36,458 Yeah, that is certainly new information. 551 00:23:36,502 --> 00:23:38,504 And would it surprise you to learn that the witness 552 00:23:38,547 --> 00:23:42,029 described this man as big and dark-haired? 553 00:23:42,072 --> 00:23:44,597 Just like Asher Ray, the man who threatened 554 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,642 Vivian Cahill? 555 00:23:46,686 --> 00:23:49,471 With all due respect, 556 00:23:49,515 --> 00:23:51,647 many men are big and dark-haired, 557 00:23:51,691 --> 00:23:53,997 and millions of them were walking around 558 00:23:54,041 --> 00:23:55,303 when Mr. Cahill died. 559 00:23:55,346 --> 00:23:57,436 Some of them in his very neighborhood, 560 00:23:57,479 --> 00:23:59,916 but that doesn't change my point of view about this crime 561 00:23:59,960 --> 00:24:01,875 and who I believe committed it. 562 00:24:01,918 --> 00:24:03,485 But in light of this new information, 563 00:24:03,529 --> 00:24:06,488 will you at least concede the possibility 564 00:24:06,532 --> 00:24:09,709 that Asher Ray killed Terrence Cahill 565 00:24:09,752 --> 00:24:12,494 so that my client could come into her inheritance 566 00:24:12,538 --> 00:24:14,365 and therefore have the money to pay him back? 567 00:24:14,409 --> 00:24:16,019 No, I would not. 568 00:24:16,063 --> 00:24:18,892 Huh. What's this detective so smug about? 569 00:24:18,935 --> 00:24:20,720 What does he know that we don't know? 570 00:24:20,763 --> 00:24:23,113 Don't step in it, Chunk. 571 00:24:23,157 --> 00:24:25,420 So a man matching Asher Ray's description 572 00:24:25,464 --> 00:24:28,510 is seen near the crime scene around the time of his death 573 00:24:28,554 --> 00:24:30,512 and you won't concede that it's possible 574 00:24:30,556 --> 00:24:32,819 that he's the killer? 575 00:24:32,862 --> 00:24:36,126 That's what I said. In fact I'll go so far to say 576 00:24:36,170 --> 00:24:38,215 that it's impossible for Asher Ray to be the killer. 577 00:24:38,259 --> 00:24:41,567 Really? Impossible? 578 00:24:41,610 --> 00:24:43,351 How is that? 579 00:24:43,394 --> 00:24:45,353 Because Asher Ray died 580 00:24:45,396 --> 00:24:47,573 two days before Terrence Cahill was murdered. 581 00:24:47,616 --> 00:24:50,358 [gallery murmuring]His body was fished out of the Hudson day before yesterday 582 00:24:50,401 --> 00:24:53,492 when a trawler was breaking up ice on the water. 583 00:24:53,535 --> 00:24:56,059 The coroner said he'd been dead at least 72 hours at that point, 584 00:24:56,103 --> 00:24:58,627 so I can assure you that Asher Ray couldn't have killed him 585 00:24:58,671 --> 00:25:01,543 unless his ghost rose up out of the water and did it. 586 00:25:03,066 --> 00:25:07,114 Wow, Chunk, that's gonna be tough to get off your shoes. 587 00:25:11,553 --> 00:25:13,163 BENNY: Asher Ray's dead? 588 00:25:13,207 --> 00:25:15,862 How did we not know he was dead? 589 00:25:15,905 --> 00:25:19,169 I'm guessing the A.D.A. asked the medical examiner 590 00:25:19,213 --> 00:25:21,824 to hold off on signing Ray's death certificate. 591 00:25:21,868 --> 00:25:24,784 She knew we were gonna use Ray to create reasonable doubt 592 00:25:24,827 --> 00:25:27,221 and she wanted to discredit us in court. 593 00:25:27,264 --> 00:25:28,657 It's pretty smart, actually. 594 00:25:28,701 --> 00:25:31,660 Yeah, and now our best alternative suspect is gone. 595 00:25:31,704 --> 00:25:34,358 The prosecution has rested, we're up, 596 00:25:34,402 --> 00:25:36,056 and all Chunk has to work with 597 00:25:36,099 --> 00:25:38,493 is a man in a parka who could have been out jogging. 598 00:25:38,537 --> 00:25:41,191 [chuckles softly] 599 00:25:43,019 --> 00:25:44,760 I don't mean to be rude, 600 00:25:44,804 --> 00:25:47,154 but how can any of this make you happy? 601 00:25:47,197 --> 00:25:50,244 [chuckles] I'm not crazy. 602 00:25:50,287 --> 00:25:54,117 I-I mean, I know that this is bad for us, but... 603 00:25:54,161 --> 00:25:57,207 I guess I'm just relieved 604 00:25:57,251 --> 00:26:00,428 Ray didn't kill my father. 605 00:26:00,471 --> 00:26:02,212 It means 606 00:26:02,256 --> 00:26:04,954 I'm not responsible for his death. 607 00:26:06,652 --> 00:26:08,958 There it is. 608 00:26:09,002 --> 00:26:12,179 When one door closes, another one opens. 609 00:26:12,222 --> 00:26:13,702 BULL: What do you mean? 610 00:26:13,746 --> 00:26:17,271 With your permission, I want to put you on the stand. 611 00:26:17,314 --> 00:26:20,491 I want the jury to see exactly what you just showed us. 612 00:26:23,103 --> 00:26:25,192 You loved your father. 613 00:26:25,235 --> 00:26:29,196 And the very thought that you might have caused him harm 614 00:26:29,239 --> 00:26:31,938 very nearly brought you to tears. 615 00:26:31,981 --> 00:26:33,983 Forget about you actually having killed him yourself. 616 00:26:34,027 --> 00:26:37,160 Yeah, I think you might be on to something there, Chunk. 617 00:26:37,204 --> 00:26:38,901 What do you think? 618 00:26:38,945 --> 00:26:41,164 CHUNK: Ms. Cahill, 619 00:26:41,208 --> 00:26:43,776 over the years, did you have the occasion 620 00:26:43,819 --> 00:26:47,170 to ask your father for money when you got in trouble? 621 00:26:47,214 --> 00:26:49,956 Oh, yes. A number of times. 622 00:26:49,999 --> 00:26:51,958 And he helped 623 00:26:52,001 --> 00:26:53,742 dig me out of some pretty big holes. 624 00:26:53,786 --> 00:26:55,352 What about this last time? 625 00:26:55,396 --> 00:26:57,093 Did you ask your father for money 626 00:26:57,137 --> 00:26:59,182 to help pay back Asher Ray? 627 00:26:59,226 --> 00:27:01,228 Of course. 628 00:27:01,271 --> 00:27:04,753 But this time he said no. 629 00:27:04,797 --> 00:27:07,930 He said that he was done bailing me out, 630 00:27:07,974 --> 00:27:11,325 that before he died 631 00:27:11,368 --> 00:27:15,329 he needed to teach me to stand on my own. 632 00:27:15,372 --> 00:27:19,376 And were you angry when he refused to help you? 633 00:27:21,161 --> 00:27:23,467 No. 634 00:27:23,511 --> 00:27:25,295 Not really. 635 00:27:25,339 --> 00:27:27,297 He was right. 636 00:27:27,341 --> 00:27:30,474 And I knew he was right. 637 00:27:30,518 --> 00:27:32,085 I was scared, 638 00:27:32,128 --> 00:27:34,696 but I wasn't mad at him. 639 00:27:37,264 --> 00:27:41,007 I was mad at myself. 640 00:27:41,050 --> 00:27:43,357 Mad for asking a sick, old man 641 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,707 to help me out. 642 00:27:45,751 --> 00:27:48,449 Again. 643 00:27:48,492 --> 00:27:50,756 Now, we've heard testimony that your father 644 00:27:50,799 --> 00:27:53,410 was verbally abusive towards you. 645 00:27:53,454 --> 00:27:55,195 Would you say that's a fair statement? 646 00:27:55,238 --> 00:27:57,327 Yeah, well, 647 00:27:57,371 --> 00:28:00,330 my dad said some pretty awful things to me. 648 00:28:00,374 --> 00:28:02,724 So if he was so awful to you, 649 00:28:02,768 --> 00:28:05,074 why did you move home to help care for him 650 00:28:05,118 --> 00:28:06,946 after his stroke? 651 00:28:07,990 --> 00:28:09,992 Because he was my dad. 652 00:28:11,211 --> 00:28:13,213 [gallery murmuring] 653 00:28:13,256 --> 00:28:15,737 Tell me we flipped somebody. 654 00:28:15,781 --> 00:28:17,608 I wish I could. 655 00:28:17,652 --> 00:28:20,046 [sighs] Well, if we lose this, 656 00:28:20,089 --> 00:28:21,612 it won't be Chunk's fault. 657 00:28:21,656 --> 00:28:23,527 The guy is good. 658 00:28:23,571 --> 00:28:25,747 He's no Benny yet, but... 659 00:28:25,791 --> 00:28:27,314 the guy's good. 660 00:28:28,402 --> 00:28:30,491 You there, Benny?BENNY [over phone]: I'm here. 661 00:28:30,534 --> 00:28:32,493 Dressed in my finest jammies, 662 00:28:32,536 --> 00:28:34,364 anxious to hear the latest. 663 00:28:34,408 --> 00:28:36,410 So let's talk about parka guy. 664 00:28:36,453 --> 00:28:38,194 Oh, I like it. He's got a name. 665 00:28:38,238 --> 00:28:40,806 Okay, so parka guy was caught on camera 666 00:28:40,849 --> 00:28:43,156 buying a carton of cigarettes in a convenience store 667 00:28:43,199 --> 00:28:45,506 about a block away from the Cahill home, 668 00:28:45,549 --> 00:28:47,464 20 minutes before the murder. 669 00:28:47,508 --> 00:28:49,205 I sweet-talked the store manager, 670 00:28:49,249 --> 00:28:51,294 and he pulled the day's credit and debit card receipts 671 00:28:51,338 --> 00:28:53,993 and I was able to get a name. Daniel Zabinski. 672 00:28:55,255 --> 00:28:57,300 18. Lives in Queens. 673 00:28:57,344 --> 00:28:59,520 That'd be him. Uh, goes to high school in Queens, 674 00:28:59,563 --> 00:29:01,130 works in a coffee shop in Queens. 675 00:29:01,174 --> 00:29:04,003 So I guess we're safe to assume he didn't just go for a jog 676 00:29:04,046 --> 00:29:06,788 in Greenwich, which is at least an hour and 20 away 677 00:29:06,832 --> 00:29:08,616 via public transit.DANNY: Exactly. 678 00:29:08,659 --> 00:29:10,923 The problem is I haven't been able to find any connection 679 00:29:10,966 --> 00:29:13,447 between this Zabinski kid and Terrence Cahill. 680 00:29:13,490 --> 00:29:15,579 Zabinski. Zabinski. 681 00:29:15,623 --> 00:29:18,017 Something about that name... Yes. 682 00:29:18,060 --> 00:29:20,019 Celeste Zabinski. 683 00:29:20,062 --> 00:29:21,324 Who's Celeste Zabinski? 684 00:29:21,368 --> 00:29:24,240 Celeste Zabinski is a 42-year-old woman who, 685 00:29:24,284 --> 00:29:26,199 up until she was terminated seven months ago, 686 00:29:26,242 --> 00:29:28,201 worked for Vivian's father, 687 00:29:28,244 --> 00:29:30,420 Terrence Cahill.BENNY: Ah. 688 00:29:30,464 --> 00:29:31,987 The plot thickens. 689 00:29:32,031 --> 00:29:33,641 TAYLOR: When we found out Ray was dead 690 00:29:33,684 --> 00:29:36,252 I started looking into possible disgruntled employees 691 00:29:36,296 --> 00:29:38,124 who worked at Terrence's accounting firm. 692 00:29:38,167 --> 00:29:40,474 And do you, perchance, have an address for this Celeste? 693 00:29:40,517 --> 00:29:41,867 Same as Daniel's. 694 00:29:41,910 --> 00:29:45,261 So I'm guessing she's his mother.TAYLOR: Oops. 695 00:29:45,305 --> 00:29:47,133 Turns out they got evicted last month. 696 00:29:48,917 --> 00:29:51,485 That's not an oops. I can run with that. 697 00:29:51,528 --> 00:29:55,054 Maybe Daniel killed Terrence because he fired his mother 698 00:29:55,097 --> 00:29:56,490 and they wound up on the street. 699 00:29:58,057 --> 00:29:59,885 Well, are we sure Terrence was even around 700 00:29:59,928 --> 00:30:01,843 when this Zabinski woman was fired? 701 00:30:01,887 --> 00:30:04,193 He hasn't been running the firm since he had his stroke. 702 00:30:04,237 --> 00:30:06,195 TAYLOR: Well, according to my research, she was fired 703 00:30:06,239 --> 00:30:08,067 seven months ago and Terrence didn't even have 704 00:30:08,110 --> 00:30:10,286 his first stroke until six months ago. So, yeah, 705 00:30:10,330 --> 00:30:11,635 it seems fairly certain that Terrence 706 00:30:11,679 --> 00:30:13,681 was around when they pulled the trigger on Celeste. 707 00:30:13,724 --> 00:30:16,510 But, again, to me, the really telling thing is that 708 00:30:16,553 --> 00:30:18,425 Celeste and her son got evicted 709 00:30:18,468 --> 00:30:20,340 just a couple of days before the murder. 710 00:30:20,383 --> 00:30:22,690 And here's another tidbit worth sharing: 711 00:30:22,733 --> 00:30:24,170 according to his search history, 712 00:30:24,213 --> 00:30:27,347 Daniel started googling Terrence around that same time. 713 00:30:27,390 --> 00:30:29,218 Any chance you obtained 714 00:30:29,262 --> 00:30:31,438 that search history in a legal manner? 715 00:30:31,481 --> 00:30:33,396 I plead the Fifth. 716 00:30:34,441 --> 00:30:36,878 So none of this is admissible in court? 717 00:30:36,922 --> 00:30:38,837 We'll find a way to get it in. 718 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,318 The point is we suddenly have another credible suspect 719 00:30:42,362 --> 00:30:44,581 and a very credible motive. 720 00:30:44,625 --> 00:30:46,279 Nice work, you two. 721 00:30:47,367 --> 00:30:49,151 We might actually be back in the game. 722 00:30:49,195 --> 00:30:50,370 Speaking of which, 723 00:30:50,413 --> 00:30:52,198 there's a shot I might be out of here 724 00:30:52,241 --> 00:30:53,895 by the end of the day tomorrow. 725 00:30:53,939 --> 00:30:56,942 If you think it might be helpful for me to step in, 726 00:30:56,985 --> 00:30:59,074 maybe put together a closing argument. 727 00:31:01,207 --> 00:31:03,122 Hey, that's great to hear, Benny. 728 00:31:03,165 --> 00:31:04,906 Let us know 729 00:31:04,950 --> 00:31:07,517 when and if that happens. 730 00:31:07,561 --> 00:31:09,911 In the meantime, we are due back in court 731 00:31:09,955 --> 00:31:11,217 tomorrow right after lunch. 732 00:31:11,260 --> 00:31:13,001 Danny, Taylor, 733 00:31:13,045 --> 00:31:15,961 you guys continue to drill down on this tomorrow morning. 734 00:31:16,004 --> 00:31:17,310 Of course.Will do. 735 00:31:17,353 --> 00:31:18,920 Nice work, everybody. 736 00:31:18,964 --> 00:31:21,401 Talk tomorrow, Benny. I got to get home to the girls. 737 00:31:21,444 --> 00:31:23,620 [hangs up]Now let's get out of here. 738 00:31:40,986 --> 00:31:42,988 Good morning.From your lips. 739 00:31:43,031 --> 00:31:44,859 Can I ask you a question?The answer's no. 740 00:31:44,903 --> 00:31:46,382 But you haven't heard my question yet. 741 00:31:46,426 --> 00:31:49,037 What, you want to know if I'm gonna yank you off the case 742 00:31:49,081 --> 00:31:51,518 and let Benny finish it up?And? 743 00:31:51,561 --> 00:31:54,303 And, as I said, as of now, the answer's no. 744 00:31:55,652 --> 00:31:58,133 Thanks. I appreciate it.Well, I'm not doing it for you. 745 00:31:58,177 --> 00:31:59,308 I have a professional responsibility 746 00:31:59,352 --> 00:32:01,354 to do what's best for my client, 747 00:32:01,397 --> 00:32:03,182 and right now what's best is you. 748 00:32:03,225 --> 00:32:04,487 You know more, 749 00:32:04,531 --> 00:32:06,837 and you have a deeper understanding than Benny. 750 00:32:06,881 --> 00:32:08,187 Plus... 751 00:32:08,230 --> 00:32:10,667 you have more to lose if we don't prevail, and... 752 00:32:10,711 --> 00:32:12,278 more to gain if we do. 753 00:32:12,321 --> 00:32:14,497 And if any of that should change... 754 00:32:14,541 --> 00:32:16,108 It won't. 755 00:32:16,151 --> 00:32:17,544 Excellent. 756 00:32:21,287 --> 00:32:22,766 We have a problem. 757 00:32:23,811 --> 00:32:25,334 What? With our new suspect? 758 00:32:25,378 --> 00:32:26,596 Our new motive? 759 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,033 Kinda sorta both. 760 00:32:28,076 --> 00:32:31,036 Celeste Zabinski, Daniel Zabinski's mother-- 761 00:32:31,079 --> 00:32:34,517 she was never fired from Terrence Cahill's firm. 762 00:32:34,561 --> 00:32:36,084 What, she quit? 763 00:32:36,128 --> 00:32:37,564 No, it's worse than that. 764 00:32:37,607 --> 00:32:39,435 She never actually worked 765 00:32:39,479 --> 00:32:41,350 at Terrence Cahill's accounting firm. 766 00:32:41,394 --> 00:32:44,397 Yesterday you told us she was on the payroll for 18 years. 767 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:45,528 She was on the payroll. 768 00:32:45,572 --> 00:32:47,008 But this morning I found out 769 00:32:47,052 --> 00:32:49,271 that nobody at that firm has ever heard of her. 770 00:32:49,315 --> 00:32:50,490 Not Terrence's number two, 771 00:32:50,533 --> 00:32:52,274 who's been running it since his stroke. 772 00:32:52,318 --> 00:32:54,450 Not the head of HR. No one. 773 00:32:54,494 --> 00:32:56,322 The woman is a ghost. 774 00:32:56,365 --> 00:32:59,499 Celeste was on the payroll for 18 years? 775 00:32:59,542 --> 00:33:02,589 And how old is her son, our suspect, Daniel? 776 00:33:02,632 --> 00:33:05,026 [chuckles softly] 18 years old. 777 00:33:05,070 --> 00:33:06,462 Hmm. 778 00:33:06,506 --> 00:33:08,334 And no one finds that interesting? 779 00:33:08,377 --> 00:33:10,118 Have you ever heard 780 00:33:10,162 --> 00:33:12,425 of Celeste Zabinski? 781 00:33:12,468 --> 00:33:13,426 VIVIAN: No. Never. 782 00:33:13,469 --> 00:33:14,775 Who is she? 783 00:33:14,818 --> 00:33:16,342 What about Daniel Zabinski? 784 00:33:17,386 --> 00:33:19,475 No. Sorry, who are these people 785 00:33:19,519 --> 00:33:21,825 and what do they have to do with me? 786 00:33:21,869 --> 00:33:24,350 The short version is we think we may have found 787 00:33:24,393 --> 00:33:26,265 the person who killed your father. 788 00:33:28,310 --> 00:33:30,051 Which one? 789 00:33:30,095 --> 00:33:32,706 The man or the woman? 790 00:33:32,749 --> 00:33:36,405 And... why would one of them want to kill my dad? 791 00:33:36,449 --> 00:33:38,973 We're talking about Daniel. 792 00:33:39,017 --> 00:33:40,757 And I... 793 00:33:40,801 --> 00:33:44,587 strongly suspect that your father, Terrence... 794 00:33:44,631 --> 00:33:46,850 was his father, too. 795 00:33:49,375 --> 00:33:51,159 This is Daniel. 796 00:33:51,203 --> 00:33:53,379 Oh, my God. 797 00:33:53,422 --> 00:33:56,425 Yeah, he looks just like my dad at that age. 798 00:33:56,469 --> 00:33:58,645 One of my investigators discovered 799 00:33:58,688 --> 00:34:01,082 that your father had been paying Daniel's mother 800 00:34:01,126 --> 00:34:03,476 through his company for the last 18 years, 801 00:34:03,519 --> 00:34:05,260 and those payments stopped 802 00:34:05,304 --> 00:34:07,001 on Daniel's 18th birthday. 803 00:34:07,045 --> 00:34:09,134 Of course, we don't have any definitive proof 804 00:34:09,177 --> 00:34:11,136 that Terrence is Daniel's father. 805 00:34:11,179 --> 00:34:13,355 There's no father listed on Daniel's birth certificate. 806 00:34:13,399 --> 00:34:15,401 We were hoping maybe there was something 807 00:34:15,444 --> 00:34:18,317 you could remember that could help us. 808 00:34:19,361 --> 00:34:20,928 Uh, I-I don't know. 809 00:34:20,971 --> 00:34:22,321 I just... 810 00:34:22,364 --> 00:34:24,975 [sighs] I can't believe this. 811 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,371 You said he was 18? 812 00:34:29,415 --> 00:34:30,416 Mm. 813 00:34:31,895 --> 00:34:33,245 I do remember my parents 814 00:34:33,288 --> 00:34:35,334 going through a really rough patch. 815 00:34:35,377 --> 00:34:37,249 I was about 14, I think. 816 00:34:37,292 --> 00:34:39,512 That would have been about 18 years ago. 817 00:34:39,555 --> 00:34:41,949 They were fighting all the time. 818 00:34:41,992 --> 00:34:44,430 They even stopped sleeping in the same bed. 819 00:34:45,474 --> 00:34:48,477 Maybe my mom found out. 820 00:34:48,521 --> 00:34:50,392 I guess we'll never know. 821 00:34:50,436 --> 00:34:52,916 You were never aware of him disappearing, 822 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,963 maybe to go spend some time with Daniel? 823 00:34:56,006 --> 00:34:58,270 Or... Daniel's mother? 824 00:34:58,313 --> 00:34:59,880 No. 825 00:34:59,923 --> 00:35:02,361 I truly doubt my dad was in this kid's life 826 00:35:02,404 --> 00:35:04,624 beyond paying his mom. 827 00:35:04,667 --> 00:35:08,628 And if he was, I certainly wasn't aware of it. 828 00:35:09,890 --> 00:35:12,545 I guess we could subpoena Daniel, make him testify. 829 00:35:12,588 --> 00:35:14,547 But everything that we have on him is circumstantial. 830 00:35:14,590 --> 00:35:16,157 Where did Danny say he works? 831 00:35:16,201 --> 00:35:18,377 Coffee shop in Queens. Why, what are you thinking? 832 00:35:18,420 --> 00:35:20,770 I'm thinking maybe Danny should go get herself a cappuccino 833 00:35:20,814 --> 00:35:23,686 and we should ask the judge for a two-day continuance. 834 00:35:24,687 --> 00:35:26,428 [car door opens] 835 00:35:26,472 --> 00:35:27,777 [sighs] 836 00:35:27,821 --> 00:35:29,344 No Benny? 837 00:35:29,388 --> 00:35:31,477 No. He's home. 838 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,567 But, uh, he's not feeling 100%. 839 00:35:34,610 --> 00:35:36,786 Besides, I think he knows you got this. 840 00:35:38,571 --> 00:35:41,530 He did want me to give you a message, though. 841 00:35:41,574 --> 00:35:44,098 He wanted me to tell you 842 00:35:44,142 --> 00:35:47,667 don't make the mistake of crucifying this witness. 843 00:35:47,710 --> 00:35:50,539 You show some compassion, 844 00:35:50,583 --> 00:35:53,107 you might just get some back. 845 00:35:53,151 --> 00:35:54,587 Got it. 846 00:35:55,631 --> 00:35:56,763 Your Honor, the defense calls 847 00:35:56,806 --> 00:35:59,287 Daniel Zabinski to the stand. 848 00:36:10,907 --> 00:36:12,866 Mr. Zabinski... 849 00:36:12,909 --> 00:36:13,823 this security video footage 850 00:36:13,867 --> 00:36:17,175 was taken January 17 at 8:43 a.m. 851 00:36:17,218 --> 00:36:20,308 in a Greenwich, Connecticut, convenience store 852 00:36:20,352 --> 00:36:22,615 20 minutes before Terrence Cahill was killed 853 00:36:22,658 --> 00:36:24,530 a few blocks away. 854 00:36:27,794 --> 00:36:29,230 That's you. 855 00:36:29,274 --> 00:36:30,797 Isn't it, Mr. Zabinski? 856 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:32,146 Buying cigarettes? 857 00:36:33,974 --> 00:36:35,367 Before you answer, you should know 858 00:36:35,410 --> 00:36:36,803 that we have your signature 859 00:36:36,846 --> 00:36:38,805 on the debit card transaction record 860 00:36:38,848 --> 00:36:40,850 that you signed when you purchased. 861 00:36:43,766 --> 00:36:45,159 Okay. 862 00:36:45,203 --> 00:36:46,639 Okay? 863 00:36:47,857 --> 00:36:50,860 Does okay mean yes or does okay mean no? 864 00:36:50,904 --> 00:36:53,472 Okay, yes, I guess that's me. 865 00:36:55,300 --> 00:36:57,867 And can you tell the jury where you live? 866 00:36:57,911 --> 00:37:00,783 With my mother at my aunt's apartment 867 00:37:00,827 --> 00:37:03,264 in Forest Hills. Queens. 868 00:37:03,308 --> 00:37:05,832 And do you know how far Greenwich, Connecticut, is 869 00:37:05,875 --> 00:37:07,312 from where you live? 870 00:37:07,355 --> 00:37:09,531 You mean in miles? No. 871 00:37:10,619 --> 00:37:13,448 Well, I mean, can you give the jury an idea 872 00:37:13,492 --> 00:37:16,756 of how long it took you to get from place to another? 873 00:37:16,799 --> 00:37:18,366 I don't know. 874 00:37:18,410 --> 00:37:19,933 Hour, 15, 875 00:37:19,976 --> 00:37:21,326 hour and a half. 876 00:37:21,369 --> 00:37:25,243 I'd subway to Grand Central, train to Greenwich. 877 00:37:25,286 --> 00:37:27,288 And what brought you to Greenwich that day? 878 00:37:27,332 --> 00:37:29,072 A job interview. 879 00:37:30,117 --> 00:37:31,771 Really? A job interview? 880 00:37:31,814 --> 00:37:33,294 That's very helpful. 881 00:37:33,338 --> 00:37:35,035 Well, can you tell us the name 882 00:37:35,078 --> 00:37:37,777 of the company and the person that you interviewed with? 883 00:37:37,820 --> 00:37:39,213 Let me remind you 884 00:37:39,257 --> 00:37:41,346 one more time that you're under oath. 885 00:37:47,352 --> 00:37:49,876 Daniel, have you ever been in court before? 886 00:37:49,919 --> 00:37:50,920 No. 887 00:37:50,964 --> 00:37:52,226 Okay. 888 00:37:52,270 --> 00:37:54,272 Do you know what perjury is? 889 00:37:55,403 --> 00:37:57,275 It's when you say something in court 890 00:37:57,318 --> 00:37:58,972 that isn't true. 891 00:37:59,015 --> 00:38:02,280 Do you know what happens to a person who commits perjury? 892 00:38:03,672 --> 00:38:05,065 They go to jail. 893 00:38:06,371 --> 00:38:07,372 So... 894 00:38:07,415 --> 00:38:09,243 now that you know the rules, 895 00:38:09,287 --> 00:38:12,290 why don't we start over again. 896 00:38:12,333 --> 00:38:15,423 What brought you to Greenwich that day? 897 00:38:17,382 --> 00:38:19,384 I needed to speak to someone. 898 00:38:19,427 --> 00:38:21,690 And was that someone your father? 899 00:38:23,388 --> 00:38:24,563 I don't know. 900 00:38:24,606 --> 00:38:26,521 He might have been. 901 00:38:27,566 --> 00:38:29,132 My mother told me he was. 902 00:38:29,176 --> 00:38:30,395 And was that man's name 903 00:38:30,438 --> 00:38:32,310 Terrence Cahill? 904 00:38:34,529 --> 00:38:35,704 Yes. 905 00:38:35,748 --> 00:38:36,923 [gallery murmuring] 906 00:38:36,966 --> 00:38:38,577 You seeing any action yet? 907 00:38:38,620 --> 00:38:41,231 MARISSA: Not yet.Well, don't touch that dial. 908 00:38:41,275 --> 00:38:42,407 Now I've got 909 00:38:42,450 --> 00:38:44,800 another video to show you. 910 00:38:44,844 --> 00:38:46,846 This was taken the night before last 911 00:38:46,889 --> 00:38:48,935 at the coffee shop that you work at. 912 00:38:48,978 --> 00:38:51,459 That's you right there, isn't it, Daniel? 913 00:38:56,421 --> 00:38:58,510 Yes. 914 00:38:58,553 --> 00:39:01,251 Would it surprise you to learn that your fingerprints, 915 00:39:01,295 --> 00:39:03,384 which were recovered from that coffee mug, 916 00:39:03,428 --> 00:39:06,082 matched the partial fingerprints which were recovered 917 00:39:06,126 --> 00:39:07,867 from the fireplace poker 918 00:39:07,910 --> 00:39:09,912 used to kill Terrence Cahill? 919 00:39:09,956 --> 00:39:11,349 [gallery murmuring] 920 00:39:14,482 --> 00:39:18,094 Why don't you tell the jury what really happened, Daniel. 921 00:39:24,057 --> 00:39:26,364 I just wanted to talk to him. 922 00:39:28,148 --> 00:39:31,194 I just wanted to ask him to give my mom a little bit more money. 923 00:39:32,718 --> 00:39:34,459 She told me he'd been giving us money for years 924 00:39:34,502 --> 00:39:36,417 but all of a sudden he stopped. 925 00:39:36,461 --> 00:39:39,899 She told me where he lived, so I just... went there. 926 00:39:40,943 --> 00:39:42,945 And when I saw the house... 927 00:39:43,990 --> 00:39:46,209 I mean, it's this... 928 00:39:46,253 --> 00:39:48,603 big... house. 929 00:39:50,910 --> 00:39:53,608 Anyway, I rang the bell, but no one answered. 930 00:39:53,652 --> 00:39:56,350 So then I just went around back. 931 00:39:57,917 --> 00:39:59,527 And there he was. 932 00:39:59,571 --> 00:40:02,356 Just sitting there. 933 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,924 So I just asked him. 934 00:40:04,967 --> 00:40:08,014 Asked him if he cared about me. 935 00:40:08,057 --> 00:40:10,712 About my mom. 936 00:40:10,756 --> 00:40:13,715 Mostly about her, because she struggles. 937 00:40:13,759 --> 00:40:15,456 She cries a lot. 938 00:40:15,500 --> 00:40:17,763 Spends the day in bed smoking cigarettes. 939 00:40:17,806 --> 00:40:19,939 She's got bad depression. 940 00:40:19,982 --> 00:40:21,941 But a lot of the time she has to take her meds. 941 00:40:21,984 --> 00:40:24,247 Either she forgets or we can't afford them. 942 00:40:27,512 --> 00:40:29,078 I just went there to speak to him. 943 00:40:29,122 --> 00:40:30,863 I didn't want anything else from him. 944 00:40:30,906 --> 00:40:32,908 I didn't want him to be my dad or anything. 945 00:40:34,954 --> 00:40:36,912 And did he give you any money? 946 00:40:36,956 --> 00:40:39,872 Did he say he would give you or your mom some money? 947 00:40:39,915 --> 00:40:41,395 No. 948 00:40:41,439 --> 00:40:44,006 And is that why you hit him with that fireplace poker? 949 00:40:54,364 --> 00:40:57,585 He said something, right? 950 00:40:57,629 --> 00:40:59,805 We've heard he can be a very, 951 00:40:59,848 --> 00:41:01,154 very cruel man. 952 00:41:04,810 --> 00:41:07,465 He said my mom was a lazy freeloader. 953 00:41:08,857 --> 00:41:10,990 He said she was a crazy whore. 954 00:41:11,033 --> 00:41:13,122 Said I was nothing but her bastard child, 955 00:41:13,166 --> 00:41:15,037 and if I didn't leave he would call the police 956 00:41:15,081 --> 00:41:17,083 and put me away for life. 957 00:41:17,126 --> 00:41:19,085 So you grabbed the fireplace poker? 958 00:41:19,128 --> 00:41:22,001 No. He did. 959 00:41:22,044 --> 00:41:23,959 He swung it at me, but he wasn't very strong, 960 00:41:24,003 --> 00:41:26,135 so I just snatched it away from him. 961 00:41:26,179 --> 00:41:28,094 And then he started calling my mother and me 962 00:41:28,137 --> 00:41:29,182 every name in the book. 963 00:41:29,225 --> 00:41:31,227 Cursing, screaming. 964 00:41:33,752 --> 00:41:36,102 So I hit him. 965 00:41:36,145 --> 00:41:37,407 Just once. 966 00:41:40,193 --> 00:41:42,282 Then I just ran away. 967 00:41:47,896 --> 00:41:50,508 I have no more questions for this witness. 968 00:42:04,826 --> 00:42:06,306 Nice work, Mr. Palmer. 969 00:42:06,349 --> 00:42:08,134 Thank you, thank you, Mr. Colón. 970 00:42:08,177 --> 00:42:09,614 Make no mistake, 971 00:42:09,657 --> 00:42:11,833 your words of wisdom this morning really helped. 972 00:42:11,877 --> 00:42:13,182 What words of wisdom? 973 00:42:13,226 --> 00:42:15,402 Yes, indeed. 974 00:42:15,445 --> 00:42:17,622 Witness stand confession in your first murder trial. 975 00:42:17,665 --> 00:42:19,101 That's gonna be tough to top. 976 00:42:19,145 --> 00:42:22,061 Ha. I'm just getting started. What's my next case, boss? 977 00:42:22,104 --> 00:42:24,150 Next case? Slow down there, Perry Mason. 978 00:42:24,193 --> 00:42:26,979 I only came into this life with one appendix, 979 00:42:27,022 --> 00:42:27,980 and it's gone now. 980 00:42:28,023 --> 00:42:29,372 Back to the bullpen. 981 00:42:29,416 --> 00:42:31,026 I don't know. You sound congested. 982 00:42:31,070 --> 00:42:33,072 Doesn't he sound congested to you? 983 00:42:48,217 --> 00:42:54,180 Captioning sponsored by CBS 984 00:42:54,223 --> 00:42:57,226 Captioned by Media Access Group at WGBH access.wgbh.org 71250

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