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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:47,026 --> 00:00:50,363 It was... magnificent, 2 00:00:50,676 --> 00:00:52,865 One of his pictures are equivalent... 3 00:00:53,074 --> 00:00:54,847 ...to ten of somebody else's, 4 00:00:55,159 --> 00:00:58,183 "Oh, Nicole," and shake his head. 5 00:00:58,392 --> 00:01:00,998 And nobody ever really knew him. 6 00:01:01,207 --> 00:01:03,605 He was known... 7 00:01:03,814 --> 00:01:06,004 ...as a kind of future threat. 8 00:01:06,212 --> 00:01:09,236 One of the all-time great motion picture makers. 9 00:01:09,444 --> 00:01:11,426 A future threat to peace and quiet. 10 00:01:11,634 --> 00:01:13,302 Legendary... 11 00:01:14,032 --> 00:01:14,971 ...meanness. 12 00:01:15,179 --> 00:01:16,743 At times he drove me crazy. 13 00:01:17,056 --> 00:01:19,142 He was a very loveable individual. 14 00:01:19,350 --> 00:01:22,374 I love him one minute, and the next I could kill him. 15 00:01:22,583 --> 00:01:24,459 Maybe the smartest man I ever met. 16 00:01:24,668 --> 00:01:27,066 He got fascinated with Nescaf� commercials... 17 00:01:27,379 --> 00:01:29,360 Did you see the film 'Groundhog Day'? 18 00:01:29,569 --> 00:01:32,905 ...because they told stories so fast. 19 00:01:33,114 --> 00:01:34,574 That's what it was like. 20 00:01:34,782 --> 00:01:37,389 This man was born to push the envelope... 21 00:01:37,702 --> 00:01:40,621 There is still a part of Stanley that is a great mystery. 22 00:01:40,830 --> 00:01:42,394 ...and he always pushed it. 23 00:01:42,603 --> 00:01:45,835 You expect someone like that to be different from us. 24 00:01:46,148 --> 00:01:48,129 We were too scared of him over here. 25 00:01:48,338 --> 00:01:52,091 Everybody pretty much acknowledges he's the Man... 26 00:01:52,717 --> 00:01:56,262 ...and I still feel that underrates him. 27 00:02:50,170 --> 00:02:54,237 This film is about the life and work of Stanley Kubrick: 28 00:02:54,445 --> 00:02:59,346 An outstanding filmmaker, one of the great artists of our time. 29 00:03:05,498 --> 00:03:08,209 Stanley Kubrick was an enigma to many people. 30 00:03:08,522 --> 00:03:10,607 In his films he was extrovert... 31 00:03:10,816 --> 00:03:14,778 ...challenging, and ready to break conventions. 32 00:03:17,593 --> 00:03:20,513 But Kubrick himself was intensely private: 33 00:03:20,826 --> 00:03:24,997 Shunning publicity and fiercely guarding his anonymity... 34 00:03:25,518 --> 00:03:28,333 ...happiest at work and at home with his family... 35 00:03:28,542 --> 00:03:30,940 ...and a large circle of friends. 36 00:03:32,713 --> 00:03:36,779 He was a chess player in every sense. Both cautious and aggressive... 37 00:03:36,988 --> 00:03:41,993 ...he took great risks but evaluated each move with the greatest of care. 38 00:03:46,059 --> 00:03:50,647 Stanley was born in New York and remained a New Yorker all his life... 39 00:03:50,856 --> 00:03:55,027 ...even though he and his family lived in England for nearly 40 years. 40 00:03:57,529 --> 00:04:01,909 He died at his home on the seventh of March, 1999. 41 00:04:02,951 --> 00:04:07,018 This film will make use of unique material which has never been seen. 42 00:04:07,226 --> 00:04:10,355 It is a document about a man who remained silent... 43 00:04:10,563 --> 00:04:14,108 ...whether he was being applauded or damned. 44 00:04:19,843 --> 00:04:25,370 Stanley Kubrick was born in New York on the 26th of July, 1928. 45 00:04:26,099 --> 00:04:27,976 His father, Jack, was a doctor... 46 00:04:28,185 --> 00:04:30,896 ...who'd married Gertrude Perveler the previous year. 47 00:04:36,109 --> 00:04:40,072 His sister, Barbara, was born six years later, in 1934. 48 00:04:40,385 --> 00:04:43,930 Today, a lot of people that have kids that are that far apart... 49 00:04:45,702 --> 00:04:50,499 ...they encourage the older one to nurture the younger one as a baby... 50 00:04:50,707 --> 00:04:52,584 ...so they get to love them. 51 00:04:53,210 --> 00:04:55,087 But I gather Stanley was very jealous... 52 00:04:56,651 --> 00:04:58,215 ...you know, that I was there. 53 00:04:58,632 --> 00:05:01,552 He was very good, though. He was very good to me. 54 00:05:02,490 --> 00:05:05,201 Nobody ever accuses him of being playful. 55 00:05:06,348 --> 00:05:08,121 Well, he was playful... 56 00:05:08,433 --> 00:05:11,979 ...like on 'The Addams Family' kind of playful. 57 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:17,818 When he was little, I think they considered him kind of a sissy... 58 00:05:18,339 --> 00:05:23,344 ...because he just wasn't like your typical boy. 59 00:05:23,553 --> 00:05:26,472 He read a lot. He always had a book. 60 00:05:26,785 --> 00:05:28,975 Well, my mother read all the time. 61 00:05:29,183 --> 00:05:33,458 She always was behind him, always, and she really believed it. 62 00:05:34,397 --> 00:05:37,004 She says, "There's nothing you can't do." 63 00:05:37,629 --> 00:05:40,653 She always was supportive of him. 64 00:05:40,862 --> 00:05:44,928 She was really a great mother, I think. 65 00:05:45,867 --> 00:05:48,995 - Were they strict, Gert and Jack? - No. 66 00:05:50,038 --> 00:05:52,436 Never. He always did what he wanted. 67 00:05:52,644 --> 00:05:56,190 In 1941, when Stanley was 12 years old... 68 00:05:56,398 --> 00:05:58,796 ...he went to Taft High School in the Bronx. 69 00:05:59,005 --> 00:06:03,071 At the beginning, I think, of the second week, Stanley turned to me... 70 00:06:04,531 --> 00:06:09,745 ...as the class opened and said... 71 00:06:09,953 --> 00:06:14,958 ...could I let him copy the day's homework? I said, "Sure, why not?" 72 00:06:15,167 --> 00:06:17,774 The next day he asked the same thing. 73 00:06:19,442 --> 00:06:24,968 And the next day after that, and before I knew it he was doing it every day. 74 00:06:25,177 --> 00:06:27,784 So after about a week or ten days... 75 00:06:27,992 --> 00:06:32,267 ...I finally got up enough aggressiveness to say: 76 00:06:32,580 --> 00:06:36,230 "Stanley, why aren't you doing your homework?" He said simply... 77 00:06:36,438 --> 00:06:40,922 ...and in what I learned was his characteristic quiet way: 78 00:06:41,130 --> 00:06:43,111 "Well, I'm not interested." 79 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:47,491 It wasn't as if he were stupid. He was simply not interested... 80 00:06:47,699 --> 00:06:49,576 ...and acted upon that. 81 00:06:49,785 --> 00:06:54,790 Stanley was really quite involved, quite passionate about photography. 82 00:06:54,998 --> 00:06:58,961 Stanley, you must understand, was, by the general lights of the time... 83 00:07:00,733 --> 00:07:05,530 ...the son of a wealthy person, as they had their own home. 84 00:07:05,738 --> 00:07:09,388 They could have a darkroom. 85 00:07:10,743 --> 00:07:13,559 His father was interested in photography... 86 00:07:13,767 --> 00:07:18,564 ...and I think he encouraged Stanley to use it and become a photographer. 87 00:07:18,772 --> 00:07:21,692 That darkroom background, actually... 88 00:07:21,900 --> 00:07:24,611 ...was one of the bedrock things... 89 00:07:24,820 --> 00:07:28,574 ...that enabled him to develop a very high level... 90 00:07:28,991 --> 00:07:31,910 ...of sophistication about photography... 91 00:07:32,223 --> 00:07:34,100 ...and then finally cinematography. 92 00:07:34,308 --> 00:07:36,915 Stanley was fascinated by photography. 93 00:07:37,124 --> 00:07:40,669 He was the photographer on the school newspaper and looked for pictures... 94 00:07:40,878 --> 00:07:43,067 ...that would capture the imagination. 95 00:07:43,276 --> 00:07:45,883 We interrupt for a special news bulletin. 96 00:07:46,091 --> 00:07:50,992 A press association has just announced that President Roosevelt is dead. 97 00:07:52,556 --> 00:07:56,414 Roosevelt was a god to us. That's what my mother said. She said: 98 00:07:56,622 --> 00:07:59,646 "I'm not sure there's a God," when he died. 99 00:08:01,002 --> 00:08:04,964 And then when he took that picture, whoa. 100 00:08:05,173 --> 00:08:09,761 It made everybody that saw it cry. They'd just start to cry. 101 00:08:09,969 --> 00:08:13,202 He looked like just the world had ended... 102 00:08:13,410 --> 00:08:15,495 ...and Stanley just got that. 103 00:08:15,704 --> 00:08:19,875 It was this photograph of a news vendor mourning the death of Roosevelt... 104 00:08:20,188 --> 00:08:23,629 ...that transformed the amateur into a professional. 105 00:08:24,359 --> 00:08:27,904 Stanley was just 16 when he sold this picture to 'Look'... 106 00:08:28,112 --> 00:08:30,823 ...one of America's great illustrated magazines. 107 00:08:32,179 --> 00:08:36,350 When he graduated high school, he joined 'Look' as a photographer... 108 00:08:36,558 --> 00:08:38,435 ...taking thousands of pictures... 109 00:08:38,644 --> 00:08:43,649 ...experimenting and gaining experience for the next stage of his career. 110 00:09:15,347 --> 00:09:18,267 Kubrick shot several features on boxing for 'Look'... 111 00:09:18,788 --> 00:09:22,125 ...one on the rising young fighter Walter Cartier. 112 00:09:22,437 --> 00:09:24,106 Passionate about the sport... 113 00:09:24,314 --> 00:09:27,338 ...he realized he'd found the subject for his first film. 114 00:09:32,343 --> 00:09:36,723 'Day of the Fight' was Stanley's first effort at filmmaking. 115 00:09:37,035 --> 00:09:39,955 I was his assistant on that... 116 00:09:40,163 --> 00:09:45,377 ...and I'm very proud of the fact that I operated the second camera... 117 00:09:45,586 --> 00:09:49,861 ...during the final fight sequence, which is a real fight. 118 00:09:50,382 --> 00:09:53,719 And we were alternating with each other: 119 00:09:53,927 --> 00:09:58,307 I was shooting when he was loading. 120 00:09:58,932 --> 00:10:02,686 I got the knockdown because Stanley was loading. 121 00:10:03,103 --> 00:10:05,918 He's done it. He's KO'd Bobby Jane. 122 00:10:06,544 --> 00:10:09,881 This is a fighter, Walter Cartier. 123 00:10:10,089 --> 00:10:12,487 He's just moved up one more place... 124 00:10:12,696 --> 00:10:15,407 ...in a line that may end with the championship. 125 00:10:15,616 --> 00:10:19,161 Following 'Day of the Fight', Kubrick quit his job at 'Look'... 126 00:10:19,369 --> 00:10:21,663 ...and devoted himself to making films. 127 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,896 He moved to Greenwich Village and supported himself... 128 00:10:25,313 --> 00:10:29,901 ...by making short documentaries, hustling chess in Washington Square... 129 00:10:30,109 --> 00:10:33,863 ...and playing tournaments for money that wouldn't be enough... 130 00:10:34,072 --> 00:10:35,948 ...to fund an entire film. 131 00:10:36,157 --> 00:10:40,224 In 1953, Kubrick's father cashed in his life insurance... 132 00:10:40,432 --> 00:10:43,769 ...to help his son make Fear and Desire... 133 00:10:44,186 --> 00:10:46,480 ...a film about a fictitious war. 134 00:10:46,688 --> 00:10:49,087 It was Kubrick's first feature. 135 00:11:00,139 --> 00:11:02,016 - She'll see us. - Shut up. 136 00:11:12,339 --> 00:11:15,884 He was absolutely and totally involved... 137 00:11:16,197 --> 00:11:18,074 ...in the making of this movie. 138 00:11:20,055 --> 00:11:21,306 He knew nothing about acting. 139 00:11:22,140 --> 00:11:24,017 I probably didn't know much more. 140 00:11:24,330 --> 00:11:27,563 He was not a bohemian. 141 00:11:27,875 --> 00:11:31,212 He was not an avant-garde, Left Bank figure. 142 00:11:31,421 --> 00:11:34,132 He was a kid from the Bronx who was smart. 143 00:11:34,340 --> 00:11:37,990 I don't think he had much education. He was a very good chess player. 144 00:11:38,198 --> 00:11:41,431 The intensity impressed me. 145 00:11:41,639 --> 00:11:46,331 I thought he had a vision of someplace he was going. 146 00:11:46,748 --> 00:11:50,294 'Fear and Desire' was a youthful apprentice exercise. 147 00:11:50,502 --> 00:11:53,630 Kubrick would later withdraw the film from circulation. 148 00:11:53,839 --> 00:11:58,322 It got him noticed and helped to get financial backing for his next feature. 149 00:11:58,844 --> 00:12:02,493 'Killer's Kiss' revealed Kubrick's extraordinary ability... 150 00:12:02,702 --> 00:12:04,474 ...to play with light. 151 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,262 Stanley was making his second film... 152 00:12:21,471 --> 00:12:24,912 ...and I wanted very much to be the still photographer. 153 00:12:25,224 --> 00:12:28,561 I also wanted to see somebody discovering and learning. 154 00:12:28,770 --> 00:12:30,542 I knew I'd be seeing that. 155 00:12:30,751 --> 00:12:35,756 This was Stanley at a point where he had no physical resources at all. 156 00:12:35,964 --> 00:12:40,552 On Fridays, he dismissed the company for a couple of hours... 157 00:12:40,761 --> 00:12:44,932 ...went to the unemployment line and collected his unemployment check... 158 00:12:45,140 --> 00:12:49,624 ...because that's what he was living on. It was $30 a week. 159 00:12:49,937 --> 00:12:51,292 He just about made it. 160 00:12:51,813 --> 00:12:55,359 He was very ambitious and he knew this was gonna help him... 161 00:12:55,567 --> 00:12:58,695 ...because once, there was a scene in the morning, and the crew... 162 00:12:59,008 --> 00:13:02,032 ...wasn't being paid much either. Everyone was in a bad mood. He said: 163 00:13:04,222 --> 00:13:08,601 "Well, why don't we just take the afternoon off?" 164 00:13:08,914 --> 00:13:11,416 I was amazed he was giving us the day off. 165 00:13:11,625 --> 00:13:14,857 He always drove me home. So on the ride home, I said: 166 00:13:15,170 --> 00:13:18,611 "Why are you always so nice to everyone?" 167 00:13:18,820 --> 00:13:23,825 He said, "Honey, nobody's going to get anything out of this movie but me." 168 00:13:24,763 --> 00:13:29,560 The release of 'Killer's Kiss' brought Kubrick to James Harris' attention... 169 00:13:29,768 --> 00:13:33,313 ...an up-and-coming producer who had access to finance. 170 00:13:33,730 --> 00:13:36,441 They teamed up to form Harris-Kubrick Pictures. 171 00:13:36,650 --> 00:13:38,527 The only thing is, we didn't have anything to do. 172 00:13:39,778 --> 00:13:42,593 We had no subject to deal with. 173 00:13:42,802 --> 00:13:47,703 That night I left the office and went to a bookstore... 174 00:13:48,016 --> 00:13:51,248 ...and found a book about the robbery of a race track. 175 00:14:02,718 --> 00:14:04,386 I don't suppose there's dinner. 176 00:14:04,595 --> 00:14:07,514 Of course, darling. There are all sorts of things. 177 00:14:07,723 --> 00:14:11,164 - There's steak, asparagus, potatoes... - I don't smell nothing. 178 00:14:11,476 --> 00:14:13,562 You're too far away from it. 179 00:14:13,770 --> 00:14:14,917 Too far away from it? 180 00:14:15,126 --> 00:14:18,984 You don't think I had it all cooked, do you? It's all at the store. 181 00:14:19,818 --> 00:14:22,112 I thought he was a kid. 182 00:14:23,780 --> 00:14:27,326 Both he and Jim were so very young. 183 00:14:27,534 --> 00:14:32,956 I'm guessing, but I think Stanley was only 26 at the time. 184 00:14:33,478 --> 00:14:36,814 I don't think anything was difficult for Stanley. 185 00:14:37,023 --> 00:14:40,881 He had this tremendous confidence and if he hadn't... 186 00:14:41,089 --> 00:14:45,365 ...I don't think he could have worked with Lucien Ballard as he had. 187 00:14:45,677 --> 00:14:47,346 The cameraman was Lucien Ballard. 188 00:14:47,554 --> 00:14:51,099 Lucien had, I believe, won an Academy Award... 189 00:14:51,308 --> 00:14:56,626 ...was regarded as one of the top 12 or so photographers in the business. 190 00:14:57,564 --> 00:15:01,944 He was a particularly stylish fellow, married to Merle Oberon... 191 00:15:04,446 --> 00:15:06,532 ...a classic example of the old-style cinematographer. 192 00:15:06,740 --> 00:15:11,328 Stanley had done his own photography on his two previous films... 193 00:15:11,537 --> 00:15:15,186 ...so he knew exactly what he wanted, and I think that Ballard... 194 00:15:15,395 --> 00:15:17,793 ...resented this kid from New York. 195 00:15:18,314 --> 00:15:22,068 The first shot of the picture, first day, first shot... 196 00:15:22,381 --> 00:15:25,926 ...Stanley set up a shot. It was quite complex. 197 00:15:26,343 --> 00:15:29,263 It was a long dolly shot. 198 00:15:29,471 --> 00:15:32,599 And he's lined it up specifically with a 25 mm lens. 199 00:15:32,808 --> 00:15:37,604 He set it up and turned it over to Lucien and Lucien said, "Fine"... 200 00:15:37,917 --> 00:15:41,984 ...and began the elaborate business of lighting and setting a dolly track. 201 00:15:42,296 --> 00:15:46,154 Stanley went over to talk to Jimmy or do something... 202 00:15:46,467 --> 00:15:51,264 ...and looked back over his shoulder and noticed that the dolly track... 203 00:15:51,577 --> 00:15:55,330 ...was much further away from where he had set the camera. 204 00:15:55,539 --> 00:16:00,440 He said to Lucien, "What are you doing, Lucien? 205 00:16:00,752 --> 00:16:04,089 I put the camera here, you're pulling it way back. 206 00:16:04,298 --> 00:16:06,800 Why haven't you put it where I've asked?" 207 00:16:07,113 --> 00:16:09,511 He said, "I haven't changed anything. 208 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:11,805 I'm using a 50 mm lens... 209 00:16:12,014 --> 00:16:17,123 ...to give you precisely the same coverage that you've asked for... 210 00:16:17,331 --> 00:16:19,938 ...but with the 50. It makes... 211 00:16:20,147 --> 00:16:23,483 ...my job a lot easier and it'll go a lot faster." 212 00:16:23,692 --> 00:16:26,820 Stanley listened to this and said: 213 00:16:27,029 --> 00:16:31,408 "What about the change in perspective that occurs?" 214 00:16:31,617 --> 00:16:33,493 He said, "That doesn't matter." 215 00:16:33,702 --> 00:16:37,039 That particular piece of information is dead wrong. 216 00:16:37,247 --> 00:16:40,792 The perspective changes. It's a different shot. 217 00:16:41,001 --> 00:16:45,172 Stanley was aware that Lucien was simply bulling past him... 218 00:16:45,485 --> 00:16:49,343 ...but also what particularly nettled him was the assumption... 219 00:16:49,551 --> 00:16:53,096 ...that he wouldn't understand this or wouldn't care about it. 220 00:16:53,305 --> 00:16:55,286 Stanley said: 221 00:16:56,120 --> 00:17:01,334 "Put the camera where I told you, with the lens that I asked for... 222 00:17:01,647 --> 00:17:04,775 ...or get off the set and don't come back." 223 00:17:06,235 --> 00:17:09,154 He said it very quietly, very softly... 224 00:17:09,363 --> 00:17:12,074 ...and there was a look between them... 225 00:17:13,012 --> 00:17:18,017 ...and Lucien changed the setup and moved the camera where it had to be... 226 00:17:18,226 --> 00:17:21,979 ...and there was never an argument again, about anything. 227 00:17:22,292 --> 00:17:25,003 All right, all right, check it through. 228 00:17:25,629 --> 00:17:28,966 I'm sure you'll find our service to your complete satisfaction. 229 00:17:31,260 --> 00:17:35,952 I suppose a lot of what Stanley is, and what he did... 230 00:17:36,265 --> 00:17:37,933 ...in more complicated ways with later films... 231 00:17:39,601 --> 00:17:43,981 ...is implicit in this simple movie about a meticulously planned crime. 232 00:17:44,189 --> 00:17:48,151 The sense the Sterling Hayden character has that he's on top of it... 233 00:17:48,360 --> 00:17:51,175 ...he really knows what he's doing. At the end of it... 234 00:17:51,488 --> 00:17:54,512 ...the little yapping dog gets loose... 235 00:17:54,721 --> 00:17:57,744 ...and the money blows all over the place. 236 00:17:57,953 --> 00:18:00,455 It's a brilliant and existential movie. 237 00:18:00,664 --> 00:18:05,669 If existentialism basically posits that we define ourselves by doing... 238 00:18:06,086 --> 00:18:10,674 ...and that chance is the one thing we can never quite fully comprehend... 239 00:18:10,883 --> 00:18:16,200 ...prior to its impinging on our desires, or plans, or whatever... 240 00:18:16,409 --> 00:18:18,286 It's a brilliant statement of that. 241 00:18:18,703 --> 00:18:20,788 'The Killing' was not a commercial success... 242 00:18:20,997 --> 00:18:25,480 ...but it did succeed in building Kubrick and Harris' reputation. 243 00:18:25,689 --> 00:18:30,068 When I saw 'The Killing' I said, "My God. 244 00:18:30,381 --> 00:18:34,448 Stanley's gonna make it. This is good." 245 00:18:35,178 --> 00:18:38,619 But it's 'Paths of Glory' that turned it all around. 246 00:19:06,146 --> 00:19:07,814 We walked in the middle, as we usually did as kids... 247 00:19:09,691 --> 00:19:11,255 ...Paths of Glory. 248 00:19:12,194 --> 00:19:15,322 And myself and my friends, who were war-film buffs... 249 00:19:15,531 --> 00:19:19,076 ...we had never seen anything quite like it, or quite like... 250 00:19:19,284 --> 00:19:22,412 ...the tone of it. We'd seen other anti-war films. 251 00:19:22,725 --> 00:19:25,332 But this one was so honest... 252 00:19:25,541 --> 00:19:29,294 ...particularly the trial, and scenes between Macready and Kirk Douglas. 253 00:19:29,607 --> 00:19:32,944 I ordered an attack. Your troops refused to attack. 254 00:19:33,152 --> 00:19:35,759 They did attack, but they could make no headway. 255 00:19:36,072 --> 00:19:38,574 Because they didn't try. I saw it myself. 256 00:19:38,783 --> 00:19:40,347 Half of them never left the trenches. 257 00:19:40,556 --> 00:19:43,267 A third of them were pinned down by the intense fire. 258 00:19:43,579 --> 00:19:45,248 Don't quibble over fractions. 259 00:19:45,456 --> 00:19:49,523 The fact remains that a good part of them never left their own trenches. 260 00:19:49,731 --> 00:19:53,589 I'm going to have ten men from each company in your regiment... 261 00:19:53,798 --> 00:19:56,613 ...tried under penalty of death for cowardice. 262 00:19:56,926 --> 00:19:59,116 - Penalty of death? - For cowardice. 263 00:19:59,429 --> 00:20:01,410 They've skimmed milk in their veins instead of blood. 264 00:20:01,723 --> 00:20:04,121 The reddest milk I've ever seen, my trenches-- 265 00:20:04,434 --> 00:20:06,415 - That's enough! - I won't mince words-- 266 00:20:06,623 --> 00:20:10,169 If you continue in this manner, I shall have to put you under arrest. 267 00:20:10,377 --> 00:20:13,401 It was so honest that it was shocking. 268 00:20:14,548 --> 00:20:19,657 What made it even more shocking was the nature of the way it was shot. 269 00:20:20,074 --> 00:20:22,890 The use of the tracking camera in the trenches. 270 00:20:23,098 --> 00:20:26,018 There's something that's happening. They're trying to be objective: 271 00:20:26,226 --> 00:20:29,042 "I'm just showing you this, man, make up your own mind. 272 00:20:29,250 --> 00:20:32,378 I'm telling you right now, this is what went down. 273 00:20:32,587 --> 00:20:34,672 It's bad, it's a lie, it's hypocrisy." 274 00:20:34,985 --> 00:20:37,800 Maybe the attack against the anthill was impossible. 275 00:20:38,009 --> 00:20:41,137 Perhaps it was an error of judgement on our part... 276 00:20:41,450 --> 00:20:45,308 ...but if your men had been more daring, they might have taken it. 277 00:20:45,621 --> 00:20:50,730 Why should we have to bear any more criticism than we have to? 278 00:20:51,043 --> 00:20:54,275 Aside from the fact that many of your men never left the trenches... 279 00:20:54,484 --> 00:20:56,673 ...is the question of the troops' morale. 280 00:20:56,882 --> 00:20:58,550 - The troops' morale? - Certainly. 281 00:20:58,759 --> 00:21:01,678 These executions will be a perfect tonic for the division. 282 00:21:01,887 --> 00:21:06,058 There are few things more encouraging than seeing someone else die. 283 00:21:06,475 --> 00:21:10,541 Many artists, when they put a canvas up which is blank... 284 00:21:10,854 --> 00:21:13,774 ...they start with very detailed, small, delicate pencil strokes... 285 00:21:16,068 --> 00:21:18,362 ...on a canvas. 286 00:21:19,092 --> 00:21:22,845 Stanley started conceptually on all of his movies... 287 00:21:23,054 --> 00:21:24,305 ...from my point of view... 288 00:21:24,514 --> 00:21:28,997 ...with large primary-colored brush strokes... 289 00:21:29,206 --> 00:21:33,585 ...and he would just beat out these concepts that were... 290 00:21:33,794 --> 00:21:35,254 ...that were pretty obvious. 291 00:21:35,566 --> 00:21:36,922 In 'Paths of Glory'... 292 00:21:37,130 --> 00:21:40,259 ...every sequence hammers its points home... 293 00:21:40,467 --> 00:21:45,576 ...but in every sequence the filmmaking is subtle and gentle almost. 294 00:21:46,202 --> 00:21:48,600 What really hit us was the end. 295 00:21:48,809 --> 00:21:52,458 There's a tendency when you want to get to that emotion or sentiment... 296 00:21:52,667 --> 00:21:55,378 ...not sentimental, not sentimentality, but sentiment... 297 00:21:55,586 --> 00:21:59,236 ...and just portray this aspect of humanity... 298 00:21:59,549 --> 00:22:02,677 ...often you fall into sentimentality. You really do. 299 00:22:02,885 --> 00:22:05,388 It's very, very hard to pull off. 300 00:22:05,596 --> 00:22:09,246 This one works like-- You cannot see it without weeping. 301 00:22:51,997 --> 00:22:55,334 He was sitting behind his desk for this interview... 302 00:22:55,959 --> 00:22:57,836 ...I was to have because he was looking for an actress... 303 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,424 ...for that scene in 'Paths of Glory'. 304 00:23:05,969 --> 00:23:09,827 You know, I thought he looked extraordinary. 305 00:23:11,183 --> 00:23:14,311 And he just sat there... 306 00:23:14,728 --> 00:23:18,273 ...beaming at me, grinning at me throughout the interview... 307 00:23:18,482 --> 00:23:21,818 ...and I must have grinned back. 308 00:23:22,027 --> 00:23:25,468 He's been smiling at me for 43 years afterwards. 309 00:23:26,094 --> 00:23:30,682 Following 'Paths of Glory', Christiane and her daughter, Katharina... 310 00:23:30,994 --> 00:23:33,810 ...moved with Stanley to Los Angeles. 311 00:23:34,018 --> 00:23:37,042 Stanley and Christiane were married in 1958... 312 00:23:37,251 --> 00:23:40,066 ...and Hollywood would be their home for the next few years... 313 00:23:40,274 --> 00:23:44,654 ...where they were to have two more children, Anya and Vivian. 314 00:23:46,218 --> 00:23:50,076 For its damning portrayal of the French officer class... 315 00:23:50,284 --> 00:23:53,830 ...'Paths of Glory' would be banned in France for nearly 20 years. 316 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:58,313 The film brought its director firmly to the attention of Hollywood. 317 00:23:58,522 --> 00:24:00,920 He was still only 28. 318 00:24:04,570 --> 00:24:07,489 I think that if the reigning powers had any respect for good pictures... 319 00:24:07,698 --> 00:24:09,992 ...or the people who could make them... 320 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,328 ...that this respect was probably very well tempered... 321 00:24:13,537 --> 00:24:17,395 ...by the somewhat cynical observation... 322 00:24:17,708 --> 00:24:21,461 ...that poor and mediocre pictures might just as well prove successful... 323 00:24:21,670 --> 00:24:24,590 ...as their pictures of higher value. 324 00:24:24,798 --> 00:24:27,613 Television has changed this completely. 325 00:24:27,926 --> 00:24:32,201 And I think that despite the unhappy financial upheaval... 326 00:24:32,410 --> 00:24:34,495 ...it's caused in the movie industry... 327 00:24:34,704 --> 00:24:39,813 ...it's also provided an invigorating and stimulating challenge... 328 00:24:40,022 --> 00:24:44,088 ...which has made it necessary for films to be made with more sincerity... 329 00:24:44,401 --> 00:24:46,069 ...and more daring. 330 00:24:46,799 --> 00:24:51,909 If Hollywood lacks the color and excitement of its early days... 331 00:24:52,221 --> 00:24:55,037 ...with Rolls-Royces and leopard-skin seat covers... 332 00:24:55,245 --> 00:24:59,937 ...on the other hand it provides the most stimulating atmosphere... 333 00:25:00,146 --> 00:25:03,274 ...of opportunity and possibilities for young people. 334 00:25:03,587 --> 00:25:04,942 Slaves... 335 00:25:06,298 --> 00:25:09,218 ...you have arrived at the gladiatorial school of Lentulus Batiatus. 336 00:25:09,426 --> 00:25:13,284 Here you will be trained by experts to fight in pairs to the death. 337 00:25:13,493 --> 00:25:16,412 You won't be required to fight to the death here. 338 00:25:16,621 --> 00:25:18,393 That will only be after you're sold... 339 00:25:18,602 --> 00:25:20,375 ...and then for people of quality. 340 00:25:20,583 --> 00:25:23,398 Those who appreciate a fine kill. 341 00:25:24,545 --> 00:25:26,005 A gladiator's like a stallion. 342 00:25:26,422 --> 00:25:27,986 He must be pampered. 343 00:25:28,195 --> 00:25:32,783 You'll be oiled, bathed, shaved, massaged... 344 00:25:32,991 --> 00:25:35,181 ...taught to use your heads. 345 00:25:35,911 --> 00:25:39,248 A good body with a dull brain is as cheap as life itself. 346 00:25:39,769 --> 00:25:44,044 I congratulate you, and may fortune smile on most of you. 347 00:25:44,253 --> 00:25:48,006 Then Kirk Douglas came to us and was having trouble with 'Spartacus'. 348 00:25:48,215 --> 00:25:51,134 He had shot for three days... 349 00:25:51,343 --> 00:25:54,575 ...and wanted to replace the director who was on the film... 350 00:25:54,784 --> 00:26:00,206 ...and asked if Stanley could be acquired, sort of on a loan-out basis. 351 00:26:00,415 --> 00:26:03,856 We thought it'd be good for his career and for our company. 352 00:26:04,064 --> 00:26:07,714 I thought he did an incredible job of taking that film... 353 00:26:07,922 --> 00:26:11,676 ...which the script didn't even have battle sequences in it... 354 00:26:11,989 --> 00:26:15,325 ...and sort of did some recasting of some of the parts... 355 00:26:15,534 --> 00:26:19,288 ...took some of the film to Spain and did the big battle scenes... 356 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,999 ...and turned it into a marvelous epic film. 357 00:26:22,207 --> 00:26:25,127 I was rather dreading the arrival of Stanley. I didn't know him... 358 00:26:26,482 --> 00:26:29,089 ...but I had seen 'Paths of Glory'... 359 00:26:29,298 --> 00:26:32,217 ...which I find one of the best films I've ever seen. 360 00:26:32,426 --> 00:26:36,284 In spite of your vices you are the most generous Roman of our time. 361 00:26:36,701 --> 00:26:38,473 Vices? 362 00:26:40,350 --> 00:26:41,602 Ladies. 363 00:26:44,730 --> 00:26:47,128 Ladies. Since when are they a vice? 364 00:26:47,337 --> 00:26:52,237 I had a high opinion of him but also had a great affection for Tony Mann. 365 00:26:52,446 --> 00:26:56,200 Tony Mann directed the early parts of the film... 366 00:26:56,408 --> 00:27:01,100 ...the ones in Death Valley, which I think probably the studio... 367 00:27:01,309 --> 00:27:05,480 ...wanted the reassurance of an older, more routine man. 368 00:27:05,688 --> 00:27:08,921 Kirk always had the idea of wanting Stanley. 369 00:27:09,233 --> 00:27:13,613 It was a difficult task because we all had different acting styles. 370 00:27:13,821 --> 00:27:18,722 Olivier and Laughton hated each other. It was like two dogs. 371 00:27:18,931 --> 00:27:22,893 I'll take republican corruption along with republican freedom... 372 00:27:23,101 --> 00:27:27,168 ...but I won't take the dictatorship of Crassus... 373 00:27:27,377 --> 00:27:29,358 ...and no freedom at all! 374 00:27:31,652 --> 00:27:35,718 That's what he's out for, and that's why he'll be back. 375 00:27:36,031 --> 00:27:39,159 I think he was 30 years old when he did it. 376 00:27:39,472 --> 00:27:43,226 Yeah, working with Olivier and Charles Laughton. He was fearless. 377 00:27:43,539 --> 00:27:48,648 If he was terrified, he didn't show it, because he knew he mustn't. 378 00:27:48,856 --> 00:27:51,984 I think he had an extraordinary ability... 379 00:27:52,297 --> 00:27:55,008 ...to concentrate on what is important... 380 00:27:55,217 --> 00:27:57,824 ...he did not allow himself to be sidetracked. 381 00:27:58,554 --> 00:28:02,516 And even if it was emotional turmoil... 382 00:28:02,724 --> 00:28:05,331 ...and great worry he wouldn't-- 383 00:28:05,644 --> 00:28:08,876 Perhaps it's a chess-playing thing-- He wouldn't allow it... 384 00:28:09,085 --> 00:28:11,170 ...to influence him. 385 00:28:11,379 --> 00:28:13,986 And I think that very soon the actors noticed: 386 00:28:14,298 --> 00:28:17,010 "Oh, yeah, you know, we're quite safe." 387 00:28:17,322 --> 00:28:19,929 Traveled a long ways together. 388 00:28:20,450 --> 00:28:22,536 Fought many battles. 389 00:28:22,953 --> 00:28:25,143 Won great victories. 390 00:28:25,351 --> 00:28:29,731 Now, instead of taking ship for our homes across the sea... 391 00:28:30,148 --> 00:28:32,754 ...we must fight again. 392 00:28:33,380 --> 00:28:35,883 Maybe there's no peace in this world... 393 00:28:36,091 --> 00:28:39,219 ...for us or for anyone else. I don't know. 394 00:28:40,470 --> 00:28:42,347 But I do know... 395 00:28:42,556 --> 00:28:44,850 ...that as long as we live... 396 00:28:45,058 --> 00:28:47,769 ...we must stay true to ourselves. 397 00:28:47,978 --> 00:28:49,542 It's great virtue was... 398 00:28:49,751 --> 00:28:54,026 ...it was the only film of that kind that didn't have Jesus in it. 399 00:28:54,234 --> 00:28:57,779 There was no trace of Christianity in 'Spartacus' really. 400 00:28:57,988 --> 00:29:01,116 There was faith, but not Christianity. 401 00:29:01,325 --> 00:29:06,330 If Kirk wants to be rewarded for his courage, which I'd be the first... 402 00:29:06,538 --> 00:29:10,188 ...to make a film like that without Jesus but with Kubrick... 403 00:29:10,396 --> 00:29:12,586 ...is already a tremendous achievement. 404 00:29:13,212 --> 00:29:15,610 I think they were both temperamental. 405 00:29:15,818 --> 00:29:18,217 Neither of them would give an inch... 406 00:29:19,259 --> 00:29:20,302 ...so there was tension. 407 00:29:20,615 --> 00:29:24,890 But he was uncomfortable during the making of that film. 408 00:29:25,098 --> 00:29:28,539 But not necessarily because of Kirk alone. 409 00:29:28,748 --> 00:29:31,772 It's because he had no rights over the script. 410 00:29:31,980 --> 00:29:34,796 All those things he'd got used to and fought for having... 411 00:29:35,004 --> 00:29:36,985 ...he didn't have, he had no say. 412 00:29:37,402 --> 00:29:42,095 Stanley was unhappy because he was dealing... 413 00:29:42,303 --> 00:29:47,829 ...with the star who was the producer and in charge of the production. 414 00:29:48,038 --> 00:29:50,436 There were certain instances... 415 00:29:52,105 --> 00:29:54,503 ...where he felt that things should be done differently... 416 00:29:54,711 --> 00:29:57,840 ...but because Kirk was in charge... 417 00:29:58,152 --> 00:30:00,759 ...they were done Kirk's way. 418 00:30:00,968 --> 00:30:04,200 I'm not saying that Kirk was wrong or right... 419 00:30:04,513 --> 00:30:07,432 ...but nevertheless, Stanley said: 420 00:30:07,641 --> 00:30:10,769 "From now on, I want to do pictures... 421 00:30:10,978 --> 00:30:13,689 ...where I really have final cut." 422 00:30:14,210 --> 00:30:17,651 The first overseas premier of Ul's screen epic Spartacus... 423 00:30:17,964 --> 00:30:21,405 ...is the most brilliant event on London's show business calendar. 424 00:30:21,613 --> 00:30:24,220 Director Stanley Kubrick... 425 00:30:24,429 --> 00:30:27,661 'Spartacus' was a critical and commercial success... 426 00:30:27,870 --> 00:30:29,538 ...winning four Oscars. 427 00:30:30,163 --> 00:30:31,832 Despite Kubrick's youth... 428 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,377 ...he was now a recognized Hollywood director. 429 00:30:35,586 --> 00:30:40,903 But the process had taught him he had to have full control over his films. 430 00:30:41,112 --> 00:30:46,430 I had a feeling that during 'Spartacus' he was biding his time... 431 00:30:46,638 --> 00:30:50,601 ...getting on the record as the director... 432 00:30:50,809 --> 00:30:53,520 ...of a big and successful film... 433 00:30:53,729 --> 00:30:55,814 ...which would give him greater freedom in the future. 434 00:30:56,648 --> 00:31:01,549 And he did turn his career into that of an artist... 435 00:31:01,862 --> 00:31:06,346 ...whereas it could quite easily, had he surrendered at any juncture... 436 00:31:06,658 --> 00:31:09,578 ...have been that of a very successful journeyman. 437 00:31:09,995 --> 00:31:13,749 He felt now he had this label: "I'm a film director, officially. 438 00:31:13,957 --> 00:31:19,067 Now I can make a story that I have a crush on." 439 00:31:29,285 --> 00:31:32,726 The interpretation of the image, where to place the camera... 440 00:31:33,039 --> 00:31:35,854 ...the nature of the subject matter... 441 00:31:36,793 --> 00:31:40,234 ...which at that time, everything was opening up in the early '60s... 442 00:31:40,442 --> 00:31:42,215 ...and it was scandalous. 443 00:31:42,423 --> 00:31:43,987 Put your head back. 444 00:31:44,196 --> 00:31:45,864 Put your head back. 445 00:31:47,324 --> 00:31:48,888 Open your mouth. 446 00:31:49,201 --> 00:31:50,765 You can have one little bite. 447 00:31:50,973 --> 00:31:52,120 I think what a lot of people forget... 448 00:31:53,580 --> 00:31:57,125 ...is just what a hot book 'Lolita' was. 449 00:31:57,334 --> 00:32:02,026 Originally, Nabokov couldn't get a publisher in the States or the UK... 450 00:32:02,339 --> 00:32:05,050 ...so it was published as a dirty book in Paris. 451 00:32:05,259 --> 00:32:10,472 It was in 1955 that Graham Greene and 'The Sunday Times' in London... 452 00:32:10,681 --> 00:32:13,287 ...nominated it as his novel of the year. 453 00:32:13,496 --> 00:32:16,728 It then took off and it very soon found a publisher. 454 00:32:17,145 --> 00:32:20,378 He thought 'Lolita' was a fantastic book... 455 00:32:20,691 --> 00:32:23,923 ...because it clarified the feeling we all have... 456 00:32:24,236 --> 00:32:27,781 ...that good and evil does not come in the expected package. 457 00:32:36,957 --> 00:32:38,938 I guess I won't be seeing you again. 458 00:32:40,919 --> 00:32:42,588 I shall be moving on. 459 00:32:42,900 --> 00:32:46,341 I must prepare for my work at Beardsley College in the fall. 460 00:32:47,071 --> 00:32:49,261 Then I guess this is goodbye. 461 00:32:51,555 --> 00:32:52,910 Yes. 462 00:32:54,057 --> 00:32:55,621 Don't forget me. 463 00:33:01,565 --> 00:33:05,631 It shocks me when people say Stanley didn't make "people" movies. 464 00:33:05,944 --> 00:33:09,489 He made movies about machines or... 465 00:33:09,698 --> 00:33:11,158 It's always confounded me. 466 00:33:11,575 --> 00:33:15,224 'Lolita' is, you know, nothing like the book. 467 00:33:15,433 --> 00:33:19,708 But he did draft the author to write the screenplay. 468 00:33:20,021 --> 00:33:22,419 They were in collaboration with each other... 469 00:33:22,628 --> 00:33:25,964 ...in another kind of version away from the novel... 470 00:33:26,277 --> 00:33:29,822 ...that is much more about the human condition than the novel was. 471 00:33:30,135 --> 00:33:31,699 'Lolita' works... 472 00:33:31,908 --> 00:33:35,974 ...as the very first Stanley Kubrick film for me... 473 00:33:36,183 --> 00:33:39,624 ...because I couldn't imagine anybody else making 'Lolita'. 474 00:33:39,832 --> 00:33:42,856 It's a comedy but it's got serious elements. 475 00:33:45,567 --> 00:33:46,506 It's risqu�. It's in your face. 476 00:33:46,714 --> 00:33:49,217 It's got big performances... 477 00:33:49,947 --> 00:33:51,406 ...and it works completely. 478 00:33:51,719 --> 00:33:56,620 You're a disgusting, despicable, loathsome, criminal fraud! 479 00:33:56,933 --> 00:33:58,288 Don't do that. 480 00:33:59,227 --> 00:34:00,999 - Can we discuss-- - Get out of my way. 481 00:34:01,521 --> 00:34:03,398 - Get out of my way! - No. I want to talk-- 482 00:34:03,606 --> 00:34:06,526 Go on, get out of my way. 483 00:34:07,568 --> 00:34:09,445 I'm leaving here today. 484 00:34:10,488 --> 00:34:12,156 You can have all of it. 485 00:34:12,365 --> 00:34:16,744 But you are never going to see that miserable brat again! 486 00:34:17,057 --> 00:34:21,019 At a time when American cinema in the early '60s was on the way down... 487 00:34:21,228 --> 00:34:23,522 ...the studio system was finishing... 488 00:34:23,730 --> 00:34:27,901 ...this was a man with authority making you look a certain way at things. 489 00:34:28,110 --> 00:34:29,465 "When I stood Adam-naked..." 490 00:34:29,674 --> 00:34:31,655 Adam-naked! 491 00:34:31,864 --> 00:34:34,679 You should be ashamed of yourself, captain. 492 00:34:34,887 --> 00:34:38,433 "Before a federal law and all its stinging stars." 493 00:34:38,641 --> 00:34:40,309 Tarnation! You old horn toad. 494 00:34:40,518 --> 00:34:44,376 That's mighty pretty. That's a pretty poem. 495 00:34:44,585 --> 00:34:46,879 "Because you took advantage..." 496 00:34:47,087 --> 00:34:48,964 It's getting a bit repetitious, isn't it? 497 00:34:49,173 --> 00:34:53,343 "Because... " Here's another one: "Because you cheated me." 498 00:34:53,552 --> 00:34:55,846 Because you took her at an age... 499 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:58,348 - ...when young lads--" - That's enough! 500 00:34:59,078 --> 00:35:03,353 Say, what'd you take it away for? It was getting kind of smutty there. 501 00:35:03,562 --> 00:35:05,335 Because of its scandalous theme... 502 00:35:05,543 --> 00:35:08,150 ...the film had a crippling distribution problem. 503 00:35:08,358 --> 00:35:11,069 The Catholic Church had their own censorship. 504 00:35:11,278 --> 00:35:15,240 If they condemned your film, they would then send notices... 505 00:35:15,449 --> 00:35:20,454 ...to their Churches, the Catholic Churches all over the country... 506 00:35:20,662 --> 00:35:23,165 ...that it would be sinful to see this film. 507 00:35:23,373 --> 00:35:27,336 Hum, you just touch me and I go as limp as a noodle. 508 00:35:27,648 --> 00:35:28,691 It scares me. 509 00:35:28,900 --> 00:35:30,151 Yes, I know the feeling. 510 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:34,218 That held up the film for six months because they did condemn it. 511 00:35:34,530 --> 00:35:39,118 There was a picture of Lolita on the bedside stand... 512 00:35:39,431 --> 00:35:42,872 ...so when Humbert and his wife Charlotte were in bed... 513 00:35:43,081 --> 00:35:48,398 ...they felt that Humbert was using the picture for sexual stimulation. 514 00:35:48,815 --> 00:35:53,091 I denied that. I think that in all fairness they were right. 515 00:35:53,403 --> 00:35:58,096 Anyway, we agreed to limit the number of looks at that picture. 516 00:35:58,721 --> 00:36:02,371 To get a release, Kubrick had to re-cut 'Lolita'. 517 00:36:02,892 --> 00:36:04,873 As he later told 'Newsweek': 518 00:36:05,082 --> 00:36:07,584 "Had I known how severe the limitations were... 519 00:36:07,793 --> 00:36:09,253 ...I wouldn't have made it." 520 00:36:09,982 --> 00:36:12,485 There is acclaim in the film world for Kubrick... 521 00:36:12,694 --> 00:36:15,926 ...director of Lolita, arriving with Mrs. Kubrick. 522 00:36:16,134 --> 00:36:19,054 'Lolita's' strong performance at the box office... 523 00:36:19,263 --> 00:36:22,182 ...was boosted by the controversy. 524 00:36:22,599 --> 00:36:25,415 Kubrick's next film would prove even more controversial. 525 00:36:25,623 --> 00:36:27,396 Now then, Dimitri... 526 00:36:29,794 --> 00:36:33,131 ...you know how we've always talked about the possibility... 527 00:36:33,339 --> 00:36:35,946 ...of something going wrong with the bomb. 528 00:36:37,301 --> 00:36:39,491 The bomb, Dimitri. 529 00:36:40,534 --> 00:36:42,828 The hydrogen bomb. 530 00:36:43,036 --> 00:36:45,435 Everything wonderful about that movie... 531 00:36:46,894 --> 00:36:50,023 ...is because of the way it was directed. 532 00:36:50,231 --> 00:36:55,340 Otherwise, I thought there were flaws in the writing of the movie... 533 00:36:55,549 --> 00:36:58,468 ...and flaws in some of the performances... 534 00:36:58,677 --> 00:37:03,473 ...but the directing of the movie was so bravura... 535 00:37:03,786 --> 00:37:08,270 ...and so superb that it just, it was just a knockout. 536 00:37:08,687 --> 00:37:13,379 The vision and the use of music of the opening credits-- 537 00:37:13,692 --> 00:37:16,403 We knew immediately anything could happen in this movie. 538 00:37:28,498 --> 00:37:31,418 People remember the film because it deals with one of the darkest things... 539 00:37:33,295 --> 00:37:37,257 ...of the postwar period, the idea that hanging over us... 540 00:37:37,466 --> 00:37:41,845 ...was nuclear oblivion. This is the time of the Cuban Missile Crisis. 541 00:37:42,054 --> 00:37:46,642 It can't have possibly got closer than those few days... 542 00:37:46,850 --> 00:37:51,855 ...where one mistake by either side could have started World War lll. 543 00:37:52,064 --> 00:37:56,339 This piece of satire just hit it right on the button... 544 00:37:56,547 --> 00:37:59,884 ...and it was frightening. Very, very frightening. 545 00:38:00,197 --> 00:38:02,699 Well, now, what happened is... 546 00:38:02,908 --> 00:38:07,079 ...one of our base commanders, he had a sort of... 547 00:38:07,287 --> 00:38:10,415 Well, he went a little funny in the head. 548 00:38:10,624 --> 00:38:15,420 You know, just a little funny. 549 00:38:15,629 --> 00:38:18,236 He went and did a silly thing. 550 00:38:18,757 --> 00:38:22,719 Well, I'll tell you what he did, he ordered his planes... 551 00:38:24,283 --> 00:38:26,682 ...to attack your country. 552 00:38:27,203 --> 00:38:29,184 Well, let me finish, Dimitri. 553 00:38:30,227 --> 00:38:32,104 Let me finish, Dimitri. 554 00:38:32,729 --> 00:38:34,815 Well, how do you think I feel about it? 555 00:38:35,023 --> 00:38:37,109 He was able to say what we all knew... 556 00:38:40,654 --> 00:38:42,322 ...about the madness of it. 557 00:38:42,635 --> 00:38:46,806 He had bought the book and was trying to make it straight... 558 00:38:47,015 --> 00:38:50,768 ...and realized that he couldn't, that it was so utterly insane... 559 00:38:50,977 --> 00:38:53,688 ...that it couldn't be done that way. 560 00:38:53,896 --> 00:38:57,442 And what he did was say that. That this is insane, I mean... 561 00:38:57,650 --> 00:38:59,318 ...who are we kidding? 562 00:39:03,489 --> 00:39:06,305 Gentlemen, you can't fight in here. This is the war room! 563 00:39:06,617 --> 00:39:10,788 And it ever after made it very difficult... 564 00:39:10,997 --> 00:39:14,646 ...to take seriously the Strategic Air Command. 565 00:39:14,855 --> 00:39:18,504 I mean, they seemed like they were nuts from then on. 566 00:39:18,713 --> 00:39:20,798 I think they probably were. 567 00:39:21,111 --> 00:39:24,865 The most extraordinary part of 'Dr. Strangelove' for me... 568 00:39:25,073 --> 00:39:28,827 ...was that 30 years on as part of a BBC team, I investigated... 569 00:39:29,140 --> 00:39:32,998 ...over a period of two years, many of the central tenets in the film. 570 00:39:33,311 --> 00:39:34,979 What had happened in reality... 571 00:39:35,292 --> 00:39:38,941 ...what had happened to Strategic Air Command in the '50s and '60s. 572 00:39:39,150 --> 00:39:44,155 And the various elements of the film like the idea that the military... 573 00:39:44,364 --> 00:39:48,639 ...would use nuclear weapons without consulting the president... 574 00:39:48,951 --> 00:39:54,061 I thought only I was in authority to order the use of nuclear weapons. 575 00:39:55,312 --> 00:39:59,066 That's right, sir. You are the only person authorized to do so... 576 00:39:59,274 --> 00:40:03,758 ...and although I hate to judge before all the facts are in... 577 00:40:03,966 --> 00:40:07,199 ...it looks like General Ripper exceeded his authority. 578 00:40:07,407 --> 00:40:11,787 ...were all, you know, seen as appalling when that film came out. 579 00:40:11,995 --> 00:40:15,749 Now we know many of those elements were absolutely smack-on. 580 00:40:15,958 --> 00:40:20,233 Curtis LeMay did a test run to see if you could provoke the Russians to war. 581 00:40:21,693 --> 00:40:24,925 We talked to an officer who worked for LeMay's successor... 582 00:40:25,133 --> 00:40:28,991 ...General Tommy Power, and they said this guy was basically psychotic. 583 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,120 This has not come out for 30 years, but there it is... 584 00:40:32,328 --> 00:40:34,101 ...right in the core of 'Strangelove'. 585 00:40:34,309 --> 00:40:37,542 Tell me, Jack, when did you first become... 586 00:40:37,855 --> 00:40:40,253 Well, develop this theory? 587 00:40:44,007 --> 00:40:47,239 I first became aware of it, Mandrake... 588 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:49,950 ...during the physical act of love. 589 00:40:51,305 --> 00:40:55,581 Yes, a profound sense of fatigue... 590 00:40:55,893 --> 00:40:57,875 ...feeling of emptiness followed. 591 00:40:58,709 --> 00:41:02,462 Luckily, I was able to interpret these feelings correctly: 592 00:41:03,609 --> 00:41:05,174 Loss of essence. 593 00:41:07,050 --> 00:41:09,866 I can assure you it has not recurred, Mandrake. 594 00:41:10,596 --> 00:41:14,245 Women... Women sense my power... 595 00:41:14,975 --> 00:41:16,956 ...and they seek the life essence. 596 00:41:18,312 --> 00:41:20,397 I don't avoid women, Mandrake... 597 00:41:21,857 --> 00:41:24,464 ...but I do deny them my essence. 598 00:41:26,445 --> 00:41:30,511 The other films that were being made at the time about these themes... 599 00:41:30,720 --> 00:41:33,222 ...about the idea of nuclear war... 600 00:41:34,786 --> 00:41:36,246 ...military takeover in the U.S.A... 601 00:41:36,455 --> 00:41:39,791 ...films like 'Fail Safe' and 'Seven Days in May'... 602 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,128 ...they're very naturalistic and rather turgid films. 603 00:41:43,337 --> 00:41:46,361 They have no longevity. They don't endure. 604 00:41:46,569 --> 00:41:49,280 They're not films that you would watch... 605 00:41:49,489 --> 00:41:52,617 ...for any reason except out of sociological interest. 606 00:41:52,825 --> 00:41:57,205 But people will watch 'Dr. Strangelove' repeatedly because it's so funny. 607 00:41:57,413 --> 00:42:02,835 That was the genius of Kubrick, but also his collaborators. 608 00:42:03,044 --> 00:42:07,736 I mean, he had the massive fortune to be working with... 609 00:42:07,945 --> 00:42:11,698 ...two of the funniest people ever involved in the film industry: 610 00:42:11,907 --> 00:42:14,826 Terry Southern and Peter Sellers. 611 00:42:15,035 --> 00:42:18,685 What's happened, you see, the string in my leg's gone. 612 00:42:19,727 --> 00:42:21,396 - The what? - The string. 613 00:42:21,708 --> 00:42:23,481 I never told you, but, you see... 614 00:42:23,794 --> 00:42:27,443 ...I've got a gammy leg. Oh, dear, gone shot off. 615 00:42:28,173 --> 00:42:30,571 Stanley was his best audience. 616 00:42:30,780 --> 00:42:34,221 He spent many of the scenes just being an audience... 617 00:42:34,429 --> 00:42:35,472 ...not a director. 618 00:42:35,785 --> 00:42:38,809 He would simply put cameras everywhere he could... 619 00:42:39,017 --> 00:42:41,624 ...so when Peter was off flying high... 620 00:42:41,937 --> 00:42:44,648 ...Stanley says, "I don't want anything to be lost." 621 00:42:44,961 --> 00:42:49,236 He would just lie on his back, you know, roaring with laughter. 622 00:42:49,549 --> 00:42:53,407 That egged Peter on to ever greater heights. 623 00:42:57,578 --> 00:43:01,436 Also, when you go down into the mine, everyone will still be alive. 624 00:43:01,644 --> 00:43:03,625 There will be no shocking memories... 625 00:43:03,834 --> 00:43:08,109 ...and the prevailing emotion will be nostalgia for those left behind... 626 00:43:08,317 --> 00:43:11,237 ...combined with a spirit... 627 00:43:11,446 --> 00:43:14,469 ...of bold curiosity for the adventure ahead. 628 00:43:15,825 --> 00:43:21,039 One of the great things about his film is the scrupulous detail... 629 00:43:21,247 --> 00:43:24,897 ...in which everything-- You know, that's part of the power of it... 630 00:43:25,209 --> 00:43:29,067 ...the detail in 'Dr. Strangelove', you know, you would think... 631 00:43:29,276 --> 00:43:31,987 ...that he'd lived through that experience. 632 00:43:32,196 --> 00:43:35,532 Survival kit contents check. 633 00:43:36,054 --> 00:43:40,641 In them you will find one.45 caliber automatic... 634 00:43:40,850 --> 00:43:43,248 ...two boxes of ammunition... 635 00:43:43,457 --> 00:43:46,689 ...four days concentrated emergency rations... 636 00:43:47,106 --> 00:43:50,234 ...one drug issue containing antibiotics... 637 00:43:50,443 --> 00:43:54,510 ...morphine, vitamin pills, pep pills... 638 00:43:54,822 --> 00:43:58,576 ...sleeping pills, tranquilizer pills... 639 00:43:59,202 --> 00:44:03,477 ...one miniature combination Russian phrase book and Bible. 640 00:44:03,998 --> 00:44:06,396 While we were shooting, somebody had invited... 641 00:44:06,605 --> 00:44:11,089 ...some American service personnel to come to Shepperton. 642 00:44:12,548 --> 00:44:15,468 They were terrified... 643 00:44:15,677 --> 00:44:19,013 ...by the amount of accuracy we had in this aircraft... 644 00:44:19,222 --> 00:44:22,767 ...and the next day I got a memo from Stanley saying: 645 00:44:22,975 --> 00:44:28,189 "You better make sure that you know where all your references came from... 646 00:44:28,502 --> 00:44:32,568 ...because otherwise we might be investigated by the FBI." 647 00:44:33,715 --> 00:44:36,114 I discovered very quickly... 648 00:44:36,322 --> 00:44:40,076 ...that behind this boyish enthusiasm... 649 00:44:40,910 --> 00:44:45,289 ...and apparent naivet�, there was this super brain... 650 00:44:45,602 --> 00:44:47,479 ...and enormous power... 651 00:44:50,190 --> 00:44:55,508 ...and utter dedication to moviemaking. 652 00:44:56,238 --> 00:45:01,243 It was quite demoralizing at times when he changed his mind... 653 00:45:01,451 --> 00:45:04,788 ...but every time he did, it was for the better. 654 00:45:04,997 --> 00:45:08,750 But I learned a great deal on that film. 655 00:45:10,836 --> 00:45:12,713 Sir, I have a plan. 656 00:45:14,694 --> 00:45:16,466 Mein F�hrer! 657 00:45:17,092 --> 00:45:19,178 I can walk! 658 00:45:35,027 --> 00:45:37,216 I was kind of shocked by it at first. 659 00:45:37,425 --> 00:45:40,449 It was so irreverent, and it was the height of the Cold War. 660 00:45:40,866 --> 00:45:45,245 I was at NYU at the time, but my friends I saw the film with... 661 00:45:45,454 --> 00:45:49,625 ...some were at a Jesuit college called Fordham, others were street kids. 662 00:45:49,833 --> 00:45:52,127 We went to see this movie. They loved it. 663 00:45:52,336 --> 00:45:54,317 And they were conservative. 664 00:45:54,525 --> 00:45:56,715 The word on the street was, "It's great." 665 00:45:56,924 --> 00:46:00,573 I had a kind of a giddy exhilaration at the end. 666 00:46:00,782 --> 00:46:05,474 When she was singing, "We'll meet again, don't know where" 667 00:46:05,787 --> 00:46:07,455 And he's riding the bomb, I thought: 668 00:46:09,436 --> 00:46:13,815 "Man, what kind of an imagination came up with this?" 669 00:46:14,650 --> 00:46:17,778 'Dr. Strangelove' caused uproar. 670 00:46:18,091 --> 00:46:21,323 Younger audiences loved its irreverence and anarchic humor... 671 00:46:21,532 --> 00:46:24,555 ...but many people saw it as dangerously subversive. 672 00:46:24,764 --> 00:46:29,873 I remember reading a review in, I think, a Beverly Hills paper... 673 00:46:30,082 --> 00:46:33,940 ...where the critic said that Stanley should be physically harmed... 674 00:46:34,148 --> 00:46:35,504 ...for having made that film. 675 00:46:35,817 --> 00:46:38,736 Now, that's a pretty bad review, I must say. 676 00:46:39,258 --> 00:46:42,073 I can't remember any Stanley Kubrick movie... 677 00:46:42,281 --> 00:46:45,201 ...that was released where there wasn't controversy. 678 00:46:45,514 --> 00:46:48,016 '2001' I remember very well. 679 00:46:48,225 --> 00:46:51,770 I remember Pauline Kael's review of '2001'. 680 00:46:51,979 --> 00:46:53,438 They were not good reviews. 681 00:46:53,647 --> 00:46:57,922 And then ten years go by, and they're all classics. 682 00:46:58,131 --> 00:47:01,884 By that time I knew that Kubrick was the one. 683 00:47:02,614 --> 00:47:07,828 Yes, all these extraordinary directors around the world were making films... 684 00:47:08,141 --> 00:47:12,729 ...but there was something, after you saw 'Lolita' and 'Dr. Strangelove'... 685 00:47:13,354 --> 00:47:17,212 I knew that Kubrick-- We had to wait for a Kubrick film. 686 00:47:17,421 --> 00:47:20,757 We knew that when we went to see it... 687 00:47:20,966 --> 00:47:23,573 ...that it was extremely special. 688 00:47:23,781 --> 00:47:28,369 We expected a lot from him, quite honestly, and in '2001' we got it. 689 00:47:28,891 --> 00:47:32,436 By 1963, Kubrick had established so high a reputation... 690 00:47:32,644 --> 00:47:37,337 ...that he could pick his next project without bowing to Hollywood dictates. 691 00:47:37,858 --> 00:47:41,820 As a director whose films were popular and critically acclaimed... 692 00:47:42,029 --> 00:47:45,887 ...he had won an astonishing degree of creative independence. 693 00:47:46,617 --> 00:47:48,806 Stanley Kubrick now began work on a film... 694 00:47:49,119 --> 00:47:52,456 ...which would establish him as one of the great film directors. 695 00:47:52,977 --> 00:47:56,314 With '2001: A Space Odyssey'... 696 00:47:57,044 --> 00:48:01,319 ...the boy from the Bronx would write a new chapter in cinema history. 697 00:48:02,466 --> 00:48:07,367 In the early 1960s, space exploration began when both Russia and the U.S... 698 00:48:07,575 --> 00:48:10,599 ...sent men outside the Earth's atmosphere. 699 00:48:10,912 --> 00:48:14,665 As the space race came to dominate the popular imagination... 700 00:48:15,187 --> 00:48:19,358 ...Kubrick captured the spirit of the times by collaborating on a film... 701 00:48:19,566 --> 00:48:23,007 ...with the science fiction writer Arthur C. Clarke. 702 00:48:23,841 --> 00:48:28,534 Behind everyone alive today stand 30 ghosts... 703 00:48:28,742 --> 00:48:34,060 ...for that is the ratio by which the dead outnumber the living. 704 00:48:34,268 --> 00:48:37,709 Since the dawn of time, about a hundred billion human beings... 705 00:48:39,169 --> 00:48:41,255 ...have walked on this planet. 706 00:48:41,463 --> 00:48:46,260 Now, a hundred billion is about the number of stars... 707 00:48:46,468 --> 00:48:48,762 ...in our Milky Way galaxy. 708 00:48:48,971 --> 00:48:51,786 So this means that for everyone who has ever lived... 709 00:48:51,994 --> 00:48:53,871 ...there could be a star. 710 00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:58,459 And of course, stars are suns, with planets circling around them. 711 00:48:59,189 --> 00:49:03,151 So isn't it an interesting thought that there's enough land in the sky... 712 00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,384 ...for everyone to have a whole world? 713 00:49:06,697 --> 00:49:09,721 We don't know how many of those worlds are inhabited... 714 00:49:09,929 --> 00:49:12,327 ...and by what kind of creatures. 715 00:49:12,536 --> 00:49:16,185 But one day we should know, perhaps by radio... 716 00:49:16,394 --> 00:49:20,565 ...perhaps by other means, perhaps by direct contact. 717 00:49:20,773 --> 00:49:24,527 The impact of that on the human race will be profound... 718 00:49:24,736 --> 00:49:28,489 ...especially if we encounter creatures far in advance... 719 00:49:28,698 --> 00:49:30,888 ...of our own primitive species. 720 00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:35,893 It's a wonderful thing to look forward to and perhaps a terrifying one. 721 00:49:36,101 --> 00:49:40,480 It may happen in our lifetimes. It may not happen for 1000 years. 722 00:49:40,689 --> 00:49:43,817 But one day, we will know the truth about... 723 00:49:44,026 --> 00:49:47,675 ...this incredible and wonderful universe around us... 724 00:49:47,988 --> 00:49:51,637 ...and perhaps understand our own place in it. 725 00:49:52,159 --> 00:49:57,060 The extraordinary audacity, power and, I think, guts... 726 00:49:57,372 --> 00:50:01,543 ...to say, "Let's screech everything to a halt, take everybody... 727 00:50:01,752 --> 00:50:04,880 ...back to prehistoric times where it wasn't that fast." 728 00:50:05,088 --> 00:50:09,781 Considering the way the world was moving so quickly, this just said: 729 00:50:10,093 --> 00:50:11,240 "I want you to see something. 730 00:50:11,449 --> 00:50:15,411 I'll take you through something you never thought you'd experience." 731 00:51:05,566 --> 00:51:10,049 His way of making a film was to concentrate... 732 00:51:10,675 --> 00:51:15,054 ...on seven or eight, as he called them, "non-submersible units." 733 00:51:15,263 --> 00:51:18,704 And what this meant was you had a very good chunk, and you had another... 734 00:51:20,998 --> 00:51:24,334 ...and when you had six good chunks, you were almost home with a movie. 735 00:51:24,543 --> 00:51:27,775 It would be easy to connect them, and... 736 00:51:28,088 --> 00:51:30,799 ...you can see this principle operating... 737 00:51:31,008 --> 00:51:33,927 ...in particular in '2001'... 738 00:51:34,344 --> 00:51:39,037 ...where I believe that the bits don't quite fit on. 739 00:51:39,975 --> 00:51:45,084 And this is why there's a mystery about it that still interests people. 740 00:51:45,293 --> 00:51:48,317 I just remember seeing the picture for the first time... 741 00:51:48,525 --> 00:51:52,383 ...and feeling that it wasn't a movie, it was the first time... 742 00:51:52,592 --> 00:51:55,511 ...that the motion picture form had been changed. 743 00:51:55,824 --> 00:52:00,308 It wasn't a documentary, and it wasn't a drama... 744 00:52:00,516 --> 00:52:03,540 ...and it wasn't really science fiction. 745 00:52:04,583 --> 00:52:06,668 It was more science eventuality. 746 00:52:06,877 --> 00:52:10,735 Hal, despite your enormous intellect, are you ever frustrated... 747 00:52:11,048 --> 00:52:13,967 ...by your dependence on people to carry out actions? 748 00:52:14,384 --> 00:52:16,678 Not in the slightest bit. 749 00:52:16,887 --> 00:52:18,972 I enjoy working with people. 750 00:52:19,285 --> 00:52:23,456 I have a stimulating relationship with Dr. Poole and Dr. Bowman. 751 00:52:23,977 --> 00:52:28,148 My mission responsibilities range over the entire operation of the ship... 752 00:52:28,774 --> 00:52:31,381 ...so I am constantly occupied. 753 00:52:31,902 --> 00:52:35,343 I am putting myself to the fullest possible use... 754 00:52:35,656 --> 00:52:39,514 ...which is all, I think, that any conscious entity can ever hope to do. 755 00:52:39,722 --> 00:52:42,433 Unlike many a science fiction writer... 756 00:52:42,642 --> 00:52:44,936 ...including, I must say, myself... 757 00:52:45,144 --> 00:52:48,272 ...he regarded the future as unknowable. 758 00:52:48,585 --> 00:52:53,590 This is the first movie, the first work of science fiction that actually... 759 00:52:53,903 --> 00:52:57,448 ...I think, depicts the future as unknowable. 760 00:52:57,761 --> 00:53:00,055 Eighteen months ago... 761 00:53:01,098 --> 00:53:05,164 ...the first evidence of intelligent life off the Earth... 762 00:53:05,477 --> 00:53:06,728 ...was discovered. 763 00:53:08,814 --> 00:53:12,463 It was buried 40 feet below the lunar surface... 764 00:53:12,776 --> 00:53:14,966 ...near the crater Tycho. 765 00:53:17,573 --> 00:53:20,805 Except for a single, very powerful... 766 00:53:21,118 --> 00:53:24,767 ...radio emission aimed at Jupiter... 767 00:53:26,227 --> 00:53:31,128 ...the four-million-year-old monolith has remained completely inert... 768 00:53:33,109 --> 00:53:36,341 ...its origin and purpose... 769 00:53:36,654 --> 00:53:38,740 ...still a total mystery. 770 00:53:39,157 --> 00:53:40,825 I respect in awe-- 771 00:53:42,181 --> 00:53:43,432 I'm in awe of the mystery of the universe. 772 00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,143 Something which Einstein's often said: 773 00:53:46,351 --> 00:53:51,669 "Anyone who isn't awed by the universe, they haven't any soul." 774 00:53:51,878 --> 00:53:57,404 So from my earliest days the wonder of space and time has intrigued me... 775 00:53:57,613 --> 00:54:02,305 ...and Stanley and I tried to put some of this feeling into the film. 776 00:54:02,930 --> 00:54:06,580 I think it made people realize that we were... 777 00:54:06,788 --> 00:54:10,125 ...a rather small part of an enormous universe. 778 00:54:10,334 --> 00:54:12,836 It's hard to realize when we made that film... 779 00:54:13,045 --> 00:54:17,320 ...we didn't know what Earth looked like from space from any distance. 780 00:54:17,528 --> 00:54:19,405 These things had to be imagined. 781 00:54:19,614 --> 00:54:24,515 The special effects were a quantum leap forward for the film industry. 782 00:54:24,827 --> 00:54:26,600 These looked the real thing. 783 00:54:26,808 --> 00:54:30,354 Stanley had very firm and very specific ideas... 784 00:54:30,562 --> 00:54:33,065 ...about how these models were to be lit. 785 00:54:33,378 --> 00:54:36,089 The painstaking attention to detail... 786 00:54:36,297 --> 00:54:39,738 ...the coloration, the dirtying up of the models... 787 00:54:39,947 --> 00:54:42,449 This really hadn't been seen before. 788 00:54:42,866 --> 00:54:45,682 One of the best examples for my contribution... 789 00:54:47,246 --> 00:54:49,852 ...is what's known as the slitscan sequence, the stargate sequence. 790 00:54:50,061 --> 00:54:52,563 There was a lot of evolution to that concept... 791 00:54:52,772 --> 00:54:57,047 ...of how you would be transported from one dimension to another. 792 00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,237 It was never solved in the screenplay. 793 00:54:59,550 --> 00:55:02,678 I remembered, knowing of an experimental filmmaker... 794 00:55:02,886 --> 00:55:07,266 ...who was exploring this whole idea of long-time exposures... 795 00:55:07,474 --> 00:55:11,645 ...and while the shutter is open, he'd move various kinds of artwork... 796 00:55:11,854 --> 00:55:14,252 ...in front of the camera to scan... 797 00:55:14,565 --> 00:55:18,735 ...color blocks and objects onto the film... 798 00:55:18,944 --> 00:55:20,925 ...in a rather unusual way. 799 00:55:21,134 --> 00:55:26,034 I thought if you took what he did, which was flat and two-dimensional... 800 00:55:26,243 --> 00:55:30,205 ...and made it three-dimensional in the Z axis... 801 00:55:30,414 --> 00:55:33,125 ...you could create this streak exposure. 802 00:55:33,333 --> 00:55:36,566 Like a time exposure. Car headlights on the freeway. 803 00:55:36,774 --> 00:55:38,755 If you leave the shutter open... 804 00:55:39,068 --> 00:55:41,988 ...the car headlight becomes a streak of light. 805 00:55:42,301 --> 00:55:45,324 It occurred to me that there might be some way... 806 00:55:45,637 --> 00:55:47,931 ...to apply that to the stargate sequence. 807 00:55:48,140 --> 00:55:51,894 I walked that minute down to Stanley's office. 808 00:55:52,102 --> 00:55:55,022 I said, "I think this is the answer to the stargate." 809 00:55:55,230 --> 00:55:59,193 And he looked at it and said, "I think you could be right." 810 00:55:59,401 --> 00:56:03,989 He said, "Do whatever you need to do, you have carte blanche to do it." 811 00:56:04,302 --> 00:56:07,534 That's an example of my whole experience on '2001'... 812 00:56:07,743 --> 00:56:12,122 ...was support from Stanley to explore, experiment... 813 00:56:12,435 --> 00:56:16,814 ...take risks and produce something that was different. 814 00:56:17,023 --> 00:56:22,445 If you can imagine a giant Ferris wheel, and if you were to cover it... 815 00:56:22,653 --> 00:56:25,052 ...with a skin. On the inside edge of that skin... 816 00:56:26,303 --> 00:56:28,284 ...imagine the set being built... 817 00:56:28,493 --> 00:56:33,602 ...and imagine an endless hallway with things along the side. 818 00:56:33,810 --> 00:56:35,896 Well, that revolved. 819 00:56:37,981 --> 00:56:41,527 There's a scene where I come down a ladder... 820 00:56:42,361 --> 00:56:46,114 ...and the other astronaut, Gary Lockwood, is eating... 821 00:56:46,323 --> 00:56:50,807 ...apparently upside down, because he's on the other side of the centrifuge. 822 00:56:51,119 --> 00:56:55,290 It looks like I walk upside down to him. 823 00:56:55,499 --> 00:57:00,191 How that actually was done was that Gary had a hidden harness. 824 00:57:00,504 --> 00:57:04,049 He was upside down, so I came in right-side up... 825 00:57:04,258 --> 00:57:09,367 ...and they just revolved Gary down to me, and I just walked in place. 826 00:57:09,575 --> 00:57:13,016 There was this theme of constant rotating, rotating, rotating. 827 00:57:13,433 --> 00:57:16,562 The space station and the spacecraft are rotating. 828 00:57:16,770 --> 00:57:18,126 Everything's in orbit. 829 00:57:18,438 --> 00:57:21,775 And that established a style... 830 00:57:23,026 --> 00:57:26,989 ...of intercuttable shots that ultimately later... 831 00:57:27,197 --> 00:57:31,055 ...leant itself in Stanley's mind to the Strauss waltz. 832 00:57:55,767 --> 00:57:59,104 I think the history of the cinema divides into two essential eras: 833 00:58:00,772 --> 00:58:03,483 Before Stanley Kubrick and after Stanley Kubrick. 834 00:58:03,692 --> 00:58:07,237 Especially in relation to the use of music in films. 835 00:58:07,550 --> 00:58:12,347 Before Stanley Kubrick, music tended to be used in films... 836 00:58:12,659 --> 00:58:16,413 ...as either decorative or as heightening emotions. 837 00:58:16,726 --> 00:58:21,210 After Stanley Kubrick, because of his use of classical music in particular... 838 00:58:21,418 --> 00:58:25,485 ...it became absolutely an essential part of the narrative... 839 00:58:25,693 --> 00:58:28,404 ...intellectual drive of the film. 840 00:58:40,917 --> 00:58:43,941 I actually knew that piece of Ligeti he used... 841 00:58:44,253 --> 00:58:47,069 ...and I remember seeing '2001' and thinking: 842 00:58:47,277 --> 00:58:51,031 "This can't possibly be Ligeti in a Hollywood film." 843 00:58:51,344 --> 00:58:56,140 But it was, and of course, it makes the sequence utterly unforgettable. 844 00:59:06,046 --> 00:59:09,696 It was for me, especially the visual fantasy... 845 00:59:12,615 --> 00:59:16,265 ...with the speed, with the color and light changes... 846 00:59:16,473 --> 00:59:19,706 ...when the spaceship goes down... 847 00:59:19,914 --> 00:59:22,729 ...on the moon of Jupiter. 848 00:59:23,981 --> 00:59:27,943 And then the speed is more and more and more... 849 00:59:28,151 --> 00:59:31,071 ...and it was very clear... 850 00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:34,303 ...that Dr. Einstein pretended... 851 00:59:34,512 --> 00:59:38,996 ...that the light velocity is the highest, you cannot go beyond. 852 00:59:39,204 --> 00:59:42,958 But in this film it was suggested as it would be... 853 00:59:43,166 --> 00:59:48,067 ...beyond the speed of light and then we enter in another world. 854 00:59:48,901 --> 00:59:53,072 I never know whether the images arose out of the music or vice versa. 855 00:59:53,281 --> 00:59:57,869 The true thing to say is that they became in his imagination, clearly... 856 00:59:58,182 --> 01:00:01,727 ...and so have become in ours, totally inseparable. 857 01:01:15,029 --> 01:01:18,470 When '2001' opened, like previous films of Kubrick's... 858 01:01:18,679 --> 01:01:21,598 ...it split both the critics and the audience. 859 01:01:21,807 --> 01:01:25,665 The opening of '2001' was very frightening... 860 01:01:25,873 --> 01:01:29,731 ...because we had all the executives sitting in the audience... 861 01:01:29,940 --> 01:01:31,713 ...very old, many of them. 862 01:01:32,860 --> 01:01:37,865 They didn't understand the film at all and left, whole rows of them. 863 01:01:38,073 --> 01:01:42,661 And we were panic stricken. Then there was an enormous... 864 01:01:42,870 --> 01:01:46,623 ...catastrophic meeting in our hotel room... 865 01:01:46,832 --> 01:01:49,334 ...and Stanley was so upset he lost his voice. 866 01:01:49,543 --> 01:01:53,297 We were up all night. The next morning we went to this house... 867 01:01:54,235 --> 01:01:57,885 ...and Stanley was battling on in New York. 868 01:01:58,093 --> 01:02:02,264 I fell, clutching my handbag, across... 869 01:02:02,472 --> 01:02:05,601 ...my bed asleep, because I hadn't slept all night. 870 01:02:05,809 --> 01:02:11,023 And woke up to the sounds of a DJ... 871 01:02:11,231 --> 01:02:12,691 ...saying: 872 01:02:12,900 --> 01:02:17,175 "This is the most fantastic film and people are queuing around the block." 873 01:02:17,383 --> 01:02:19,469 He was talking about '2001'. 874 01:02:19,781 --> 01:02:23,118 I was desperately trying to ring Stanley to tell him... 875 01:02:23,327 --> 01:02:28,436 ...some people like it, it was the blue-rinse brigade that walked out. 876 01:02:28,957 --> 01:02:32,085 He told me that the first... 877 01:02:34,275 --> 01:02:36,673 ...exhibitor screening of '2001'... 878 01:02:36,882 --> 01:02:41,678 ...had, I believe he said, 241 walkouts. 879 01:02:42,304 --> 01:02:45,953 You know, I'm sure he counted them too. 880 01:02:46,371 --> 01:02:49,394 When I first saw '2001', I didn't like it... 881 01:02:49,603 --> 01:02:51,688 ...and I was very disappointed. 882 01:02:53,774 --> 01:02:59,196 Then three or four months later, I was with some woman in California... 883 01:02:59,404 --> 01:03:02,533 ...and she was telling me what a wonderful film it was. 884 01:03:02,741 --> 01:03:05,244 And I went to see it again... 885 01:03:05,452 --> 01:03:09,623 ...and I liked it a lot more the second time I saw it. 886 01:03:09,831 --> 01:03:13,481 Then a couple of years later I saw it again and I thought: 887 01:03:13,690 --> 01:03:17,548 "Gee, this is really a sensational movie." 888 01:03:17,756 --> 01:03:22,657 And it was one of the few times in my life that I realized... 889 01:03:22,970 --> 01:03:25,576 ...that the artist was much ahead of me. 890 01:03:25,785 --> 01:03:28,496 A lot of people didn't get it the first time around... 891 01:03:28,705 --> 01:03:33,292 ...and I'm really fond of quoting the MGM executive who said: 892 01:03:33,501 --> 01:03:36,212 "Well, that's the end of Stanley Kubrick." 893 01:03:37,046 --> 01:03:42,468 The message has got over, even though we didn't intend one specifically. 894 01:03:44,449 --> 01:03:46,952 Stanley wanted to create an experience. 895 01:03:49,872 --> 01:03:55,085 People will get messages from it according to their own philosophies. 896 01:03:55,294 --> 01:04:00,403 '2001' received a National Catholic Award for its imaginative vision... 897 01:04:00,611 --> 01:04:03,427 ...of man's creative encounter with the universe. 898 01:04:03,635 --> 01:04:06,242 Some turnaround for Kubrick, who had so upset... 899 01:04:06,555 --> 01:04:09,474 ...the Catholic legion of decency with 'Lolita'. 900 01:04:09,683 --> 01:04:13,645 '2001' also won an Academy Award for best visual effects. 901 01:04:13,958 --> 01:04:16,252 As the film's director and designer... 902 01:04:16,565 --> 01:04:19,693 ...Kubrick received his only ever Oscar. 903 01:04:19,902 --> 01:04:23,238 It was that kind of process... 904 01:04:23,447 --> 01:04:27,201 ...of personally taking control of not only the people... 905 01:04:27,513 --> 01:04:30,850 ...the technology, the art and the craft of making movies. 906 01:04:31,163 --> 01:04:33,874 He was it. He embodied the whole thing. 907 01:04:34,082 --> 01:04:37,315 And he invited actors, cinematographers... 908 01:04:37,523 --> 01:04:42,320 ...and production designers to come into his family and collaborate... 909 01:04:42,528 --> 01:04:44,301 ...which for some was difficult. 910 01:04:44,510 --> 01:04:49,619 After working with him on '2001', I swore I'd never work for anybody again. 911 01:04:49,932 --> 01:04:52,330 Stanley was a hell of a taskmaster. 912 01:04:52,851 --> 01:04:54,728 He was difficult and demanding. 913 01:04:54,937 --> 01:05:00,150 His level of quality control was just astronomically near perfection. 914 01:05:00,463 --> 01:05:02,861 I found, as a young guy, this was hard. 915 01:05:03,070 --> 01:05:07,553 His mind was so insatiable and so active... 916 01:05:07,866 --> 01:05:11,516 ...that he could barely sleep, he could barely stop. 917 01:05:11,828 --> 01:05:16,104 I saw that Stanley Kubrick worked and lived his work seven days a week... 918 01:05:16,416 --> 01:05:18,085 ...almost 24 hours a day. 919 01:05:18,293 --> 01:05:21,630 And I think he had a hard time keeping up with his own intellect. 920 01:05:22,881 --> 01:05:26,009 Kubrick now turned to a mighty historical character... 921 01:05:26,322 --> 01:05:31,223 ...whose triumphs, failures and personality fascinated him: Napoleon. 922 01:05:31,431 --> 01:05:36,332 Napoleon is still in his grave, waiting to be brought back to life. 923 01:05:36,541 --> 01:05:40,294 I wonder what Napoleon would think of Lew Wasserman and David Picker. 924 01:05:41,233 --> 01:05:45,612 Whether he would've liked to have them passing judgement on his life. 925 01:05:45,821 --> 01:05:48,949 Napoleon represented for him... 926 01:05:49,157 --> 01:05:51,347 ...the worldly genius... 927 01:05:51,556 --> 01:05:54,892 ...that, at the same time, failed. 928 01:05:55,101 --> 01:05:59,897 Stanley was fascinated by the fact that somebody so intelligent... 929 01:06:01,670 --> 01:06:05,007 ...and so talented, could make such mistakes. 930 01:06:05,319 --> 01:06:10,220 He liked comparing war and chess... 931 01:06:10,429 --> 01:06:15,017 ...and making films, and the idea of seeing everything as a battle. 932 01:06:15,225 --> 01:06:19,813 All directors like battle analogies for movies... 933 01:06:20,126 --> 01:06:24,714 ...and certainly nobody planned... 934 01:06:25,340 --> 01:06:28,155 ...with the mixed results. 935 01:06:28,468 --> 01:06:30,970 When somebody that meticulous plans something... 936 01:06:31,179 --> 01:06:33,577 ...anything that goes wrong seems to wreak havoc. 937 01:06:34,828 --> 01:06:39,729 If Stanley was afraid of anything, it was of making that kind of mistake... 938 01:06:39,937 --> 01:06:43,274 ...where you get carried away without checking. 939 01:06:43,483 --> 01:06:45,255 There was the chess player in him. 940 01:06:45,568 --> 01:06:48,800 Maybe that's why he took so long between films. 941 01:06:49,009 --> 01:06:54,014 The Napoleon project was well-prepared. We were ready to go to Romania... 942 01:06:54,327 --> 01:06:59,645 ...where we could have 5000 cavalry, including commanding officers. 943 01:06:59,853 --> 01:07:02,877 We had paper uniforms and everything ready... 944 01:07:03,086 --> 01:07:06,631 ...and then came this film 'Waterloo'. 945 01:07:06,944 --> 01:07:09,655 It was a very well-made film with Rod Steiger... 946 01:07:09,863 --> 01:07:14,868 ...but it failed at the box office, and our backers got scared and pulled out. 947 01:07:15,390 --> 01:07:19,352 By 1969, the Kubrick family was living close to the film studios... 948 01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:20,812 ...in Elstree, Hertfordshire. 949 01:07:21,020 --> 01:07:23,836 He's always liked living here. 950 01:07:24,044 --> 01:07:27,485 There were moments where he was homesick for New York... 951 01:07:27,694 --> 01:07:30,822 ...but he knew that was a New York that no longer existed. 952 01:07:31,343 --> 01:07:35,201 When you brought up your children here and their friends... 953 01:07:35,410 --> 01:07:39,163 ...live here, and you know, you get attached. 954 01:07:39,372 --> 01:07:42,083 Do you know what kind of camera that is? 955 01:07:42,291 --> 01:07:46,358 - It's a home movie-- - Arriflex. 956 01:07:46,567 --> 01:07:50,425 I watch the video of me as a very fresh 10-year-old... 957 01:07:52,406 --> 01:07:54,804 ...being very fresh to him. 958 01:07:55,534 --> 01:08:00,852 But also, him being bossy and too impatient... 959 01:08:01,060 --> 01:08:04,293 ...and putting his director's hat on in an inappropriate way. 960 01:08:04,501 --> 01:08:06,170 Get him off, Anya. 961 01:08:06,482 --> 01:08:09,298 - Anya get him off, we're shooting. - I'm trying to. 962 01:08:09,506 --> 01:08:11,175 Grab him and get him off. 963 01:08:11,487 --> 01:08:13,260 As a child, I remember thinking: 964 01:08:13,886 --> 01:08:16,284 "You're not supposed to talk to me like this." 965 01:08:16,597 --> 01:08:19,099 - Do you often find me in a temper? - Yes! 966 01:08:19,308 --> 01:08:22,436 Oh, I don't believe that. I can't believe that. 967 01:08:22,749 --> 01:08:26,398 You just went into a temper a couple of minutes ago. 968 01:08:26,607 --> 01:08:30,048 You can't do this stupid film because everyone giggles. 969 01:08:30,256 --> 01:08:32,342 And because I can't play like that. 970 01:08:32,550 --> 01:08:36,617 I think I'm one of the most even- tempered people you'll ever meet. 971 01:08:37,034 --> 01:08:40,579 Kubrick had found privacy and tranquillity in England... 972 01:08:40,892 --> 01:08:44,541 ...but this world was about to be torn apart by his next project: 973 01:08:45,584 --> 01:08:49,650 An adaptation of Anthony Burgess' controversial novel: 974 01:08:49,859 --> 01:08:51,215 A Clockwork Orange. 975 01:09:30,420 --> 01:09:34,383 There are certain parts that you have in a career... 976 01:09:34,696 --> 01:09:38,136 ...that nobody else can play, that you are born to play. 977 01:09:38,345 --> 01:09:40,639 That is one of the parts. 978 01:09:40,848 --> 01:09:42,516 There was me. 979 01:09:42,933 --> 01:09:45,644 That is, Alex, and my three droogs. 980 01:09:45,957 --> 01:09:49,606 That is, Pete, Georgie and Dim. 981 01:09:50,023 --> 01:09:53,569 And we sat in the Korova Milk Bar, trying to make up our rassoodocks... 982 01:09:53,881 --> 01:09:56,071 ...what to do with the evening. 983 01:09:57,844 --> 01:10:00,868 The Korova Milk Bar sold milk plus. 984 01:10:01,076 --> 01:10:04,830 Milk plus vellocet or synthemesc or drencrom... 985 01:10:05,038 --> 01:10:07,020 ...which is what we were drinking. 986 01:10:07,541 --> 01:10:09,001 This would sharpen you up... 987 01:10:09,209 --> 01:10:12,650 ...and make you ready for a bit of the old ultra-violence. 988 01:10:12,859 --> 01:10:16,612 I remember saying to him once, "How do you direct? 989 01:10:16,821 --> 01:10:20,679 What's your style?" And he said: 990 01:10:21,409 --> 01:10:26,622 "I really don't know. I never know what I want. 991 01:10:26,935 --> 01:10:29,229 But I do know what I don't want." 992 01:10:29,438 --> 01:10:32,253 I don't think I've ever had that much fun on a job. 993 01:10:34,026 --> 01:10:39,135 I've worked with other great directors, certainly Lindsay Anderson... 994 01:10:39,552 --> 01:10:44,661 But, actually, the actual fun of doing the work... 995 01:10:44,870 --> 01:10:46,330 ...was, of course, in the character of Alex too. 996 01:10:48,519 --> 01:10:50,813 He was a wicked son of a bitch... 997 01:10:51,543 --> 01:10:56,340 ...but the great thing that I think Stanley and I had in common... 998 01:10:56,548 --> 01:10:58,425 ...is a wicked sense of humor. 999 01:10:58,634 --> 01:11:00,093 It was my rabbit... 1000 01:11:00,406 --> 01:11:03,117 ...to help the prison Charlie with the Sunday service. 1001 01:11:03,430 --> 01:11:06,350 He was a bolshy, great burly bastard. 1002 01:11:06,662 --> 01:11:09,686 But he was very fond of myself, me being very young... 1003 01:11:09,999 --> 01:11:13,127 ...and also now very interested in the Big Book. 1004 01:11:13,336 --> 01:11:15,838 I didn't so much like the latter part of the Book... 1005 01:11:16,151 --> 01:11:18,237 ...which is more like all preachy talking... 1006 01:11:18,445 --> 01:11:20,635 ...than fighting and the old in-out. 1007 01:11:20,948 --> 01:11:24,076 I like the parts where these old yahoodies tolchok each other... 1008 01:11:24,284 --> 01:11:26,370 ...and then drink their Hebrew vino... 1009 01:11:26,787 --> 01:11:29,811 ...and getting onto the bed with their wives ' handmaidens. 1010 01:11:30,019 --> 01:11:31,375 That kept me going. 1011 01:11:31,583 --> 01:11:35,546 He explored these extreme subjects... 1012 01:11:36,797 --> 01:11:40,446 ...that you kind of sometimes wanted to recoil from... 1013 01:11:40,759 --> 01:11:42,323 ...like in 'Clockwork Orange'. 1014 01:11:42,532 --> 01:11:45,556 But they were... 1015 01:11:45,764 --> 01:11:50,456 ...explored in a way that was dissecting them. 1016 01:11:50,665 --> 01:11:53,480 Truly dissecting them to try to find out... 1017 01:11:53,689 --> 01:11:56,400 ...what makes that kind of evil tick. 1018 01:11:56,608 --> 01:12:00,571 And I think that there was a search behind all of those films... 1019 01:12:00,779 --> 01:12:02,760 ...to say, in a way: 1020 01:12:02,969 --> 01:12:08,287 In a world where we know man is capable of the most base... 1021 01:12:08,495 --> 01:12:11,832 ...shockingly destructive behavior... 1022 01:12:14,022 --> 01:12:16,837 ...is hope and virtue possible? 1023 01:12:20,174 --> 01:12:25,179 Go on! Do me in, you bastard cowards! I don't want to live anyway. 1024 01:12:25,491 --> 01:12:28,307 Not in a stinking world like this. 1025 01:12:30,913 --> 01:12:34,146 And what's so stinking about it? 1026 01:12:34,563 --> 01:12:38,004 What kind of a world is it at all? 1027 01:12:38,317 --> 01:12:40,089 Men on the moon. 1028 01:12:40,402 --> 01:12:42,905 Men spinning around the Earth. 1029 01:12:43,113 --> 01:12:46,137 And there's not no attention paid... 1030 01:12:46,346 --> 01:12:49,995 ...to earthly law and order no more. 1031 01:12:50,308 --> 01:12:52,915 Oh, dear land 1032 01:12:53,332 --> 01:12:55,626 I fought for thee 1033 01:13:00,214 --> 01:13:02,403 You'd have to say... 1034 01:13:02,612 --> 01:13:05,636 ...Stanley's view of human nature... 1035 01:13:05,844 --> 01:13:08,764 ...was, you know, really very, very bleak. 1036 01:13:08,972 --> 01:13:11,996 It's fairly miraculous, in this day and age... 1037 01:13:12,205 --> 01:13:16,167 ...to have pursued the kind of career he pursued... 1038 01:13:16,376 --> 01:13:19,712 ...in making these uncompromising movies. 1039 01:13:20,025 --> 01:13:21,902 It had been a wonderful evening. 1040 01:13:22,215 --> 01:13:25,760 And what I needed now to give it the perfect ending... 1041 01:13:25,968 --> 01:13:28,992 ...was a bit of the old Ludwig van. 1042 01:13:43,486 --> 01:13:46,093 Kubrick is playing around with the music... 1043 01:13:46,301 --> 01:13:48,178 ...with what he'd done previously. 1044 01:13:48,491 --> 01:13:53,183 Having taken like a real classy classical music score... 1045 01:13:53,392 --> 01:13:54,747 ...for his previous film... 1046 01:13:54,956 --> 01:13:56,833 ...now he's saying Beethoven... 1047 01:13:57,041 --> 01:14:01,421 ...but we'll also have the "William Tell Overture" played fast. 1048 01:14:06,634 --> 01:14:11,118 Kubrick's being playful in the same way as when Alex visits the record store. 1049 01:14:11,326 --> 01:14:16,331 There in the record rack is a copy of '2001'. 1050 01:14:16,644 --> 01:14:20,919 Which is a great joke, but also we're also talking about a director... 1051 01:14:21,128 --> 01:14:24,256 ...who has given up being influenced by others. 1052 01:14:24,464 --> 01:14:29,678 A film director whose primary influence has become himself. 1053 01:14:29,991 --> 01:14:33,745 For now it was lovely music that came to my aid. 1054 01:14:34,057 --> 01:14:37,186 There was a window open with a stereo on... 1055 01:14:37,394 --> 01:14:40,731 ...and I viddied right at once what to do. 1056 01:15:04,713 --> 01:15:06,381 I did two weeks of narration. 1057 01:15:06,694 --> 01:15:10,135 It was like the purest kind of filmmaking. 1058 01:15:10,448 --> 01:15:14,306 You know, just a Sennheiser microphone and a Nagra, that's all he had. 1059 01:15:14,515 --> 01:15:17,434 No operator. It was Stanley pushing the button, that was it. 1060 01:15:17,643 --> 01:15:21,188 And it was highly you know, concentrated, so I'd say: 1061 01:15:21,396 --> 01:15:25,567 "I've got to stretch my legs, Stanley." And he'd say, "Ping-pong." 1062 01:15:25,776 --> 01:15:29,738 He was always trying to beat me, he never did, not at ping-pong. 1063 01:15:29,947 --> 01:15:31,823 Chess, another matter. 1064 01:15:32,032 --> 01:15:35,369 So we'd have fun, we'd play, and we'd come back... 1065 01:15:35,577 --> 01:15:38,497 ...we'd do another piece. The voice-over works well. 1066 01:15:38,705 --> 01:15:41,834 So about six months later, my agent said: 1067 01:15:42,042 --> 01:15:47,464 "Malcolm, you have two weeks of voice-over you haven't been paid for." 1068 01:15:47,673 --> 01:15:52,156 I went, "I'm going out to see Stanley this afternoon. 1069 01:15:52,365 --> 01:15:53,825 I'll mention it to him." 1070 01:15:54,033 --> 01:15:58,517 Leaving, I think I said, "By the way, my agent informs me... 1071 01:15:58,830 --> 01:16:02,479 ...that I haven't been paid for the two weeks' narration." 1072 01:16:03,418 --> 01:16:06,963 He had a slide rule in his pocket and he took it out. 1073 01:16:07,171 --> 01:16:10,508 He went like this, and he went: 1074 01:16:10,717 --> 01:16:13,949 "I'll pay you for a week." I went, "A week?" 1075 01:16:14,157 --> 01:16:16,660 He goes, "The other week was ping-pong!" 1076 01:16:16,869 --> 01:16:18,224 Oh, bliss! 1077 01:16:18,745 --> 01:16:20,831 Bliss and heaven! 1078 01:16:21,352 --> 01:16:25,940 It was gorgeousness and gorgeosity made flesh. 1079 01:16:26,774 --> 01:16:30,841 It was like a bird of rarest spun heaven metal. 1080 01:16:31,049 --> 01:16:34,490 Or like silvery wine flowing in a spaceship... 1081 01:16:34,699 --> 01:16:37,514 ...gravity all nonsense now. 1082 01:16:38,036 --> 01:16:39,495 As I slooshied... 1083 01:16:39,704 --> 01:16:42,728 ...I knew such lovely pictures. 1084 01:16:52,321 --> 01:16:56,074 Stanley and Malcolm McDowell got along like a house on fire. 1085 01:16:56,283 --> 01:16:59,098 Stanley was very happy with the choice of Malcolm... 1086 01:16:59,307 --> 01:17:01,079 ...and he delivered. 1087 01:17:01,288 --> 01:17:02,956 We became very, very close. 1088 01:17:03,165 --> 01:17:07,231 I, of course, thought that this was a great friendship. 1089 01:17:07,753 --> 01:17:11,089 I expected to be part of his life. 1090 01:17:11,402 --> 01:17:14,635 I didn't understand at the time, being a young actor... 1091 01:17:14,843 --> 01:17:17,971 ...and not having done very many films... 1092 01:17:18,180 --> 01:17:20,474 ...so being somewhat inexperienced... 1093 01:17:20,682 --> 01:17:24,228 ...that, you know, that the way of a film life is: 1094 01:17:24,436 --> 01:17:27,981 Intense relationship, separate. 1095 01:17:28,294 --> 01:17:30,067 Intense relationship, separate. 1096 01:17:30,275 --> 01:17:34,863 So I was expecting the relationship to carry on in some form... 1097 01:17:35,176 --> 01:17:39,451 ...but he cut it like this. He didn't really want to know. 1098 01:17:39,660 --> 01:17:41,641 It was over for him. 1099 01:17:41,954 --> 01:17:45,499 I think the other thing is, some of the things I said about him... 1100 01:17:45,707 --> 01:17:47,793 ...which were perhaps unfair... 1101 01:17:48,001 --> 01:17:50,504 ...maybe it was a cry out to say: 1102 01:17:50,712 --> 01:17:53,841 "Stanley, pick up the phone and call me." 1103 01:17:54,258 --> 01:17:55,926 And of course, he never did. 1104 01:17:56,134 --> 01:17:58,324 I have arranged a little surprise for you. 1105 01:17:58,741 --> 01:18:00,097 Surprise? 1106 01:18:00,410 --> 01:18:02,078 One that I hope that you will like... 1107 01:18:02,286 --> 01:18:03,642 ...as a... 1108 01:18:04,268 --> 01:18:05,623 ...how shall we put it... 1109 01:18:05,936 --> 01:18:09,168 ...as a symbol of our new understanding. 1110 01:18:10,107 --> 01:18:13,443 An understanding between two friends. 1111 01:18:27,624 --> 01:18:31,378 'A Clockwork Orange' dealt in part with media exploitation... 1112 01:18:31,691 --> 01:18:34,089 ...but now real life imitated art. 1113 01:18:48,791 --> 01:18:51,711 The film was blamed for many brutal crimes committed by youths... 1114 01:18:52,024 --> 01:18:55,569 ...claiming to have been inspired by the film's violence. 1115 01:18:55,777 --> 01:19:00,365 The reaction had a devastating impact on Kubrick and his family. 1116 01:19:00,574 --> 01:19:04,745 The attack on 'Clockwork Orange' was fierce in Britain. 1117 01:19:05,058 --> 01:19:08,081 It was unbelievable. 1118 01:19:08,394 --> 01:19:12,044 He was directly accused of murder and mayhem. 1119 01:19:12,252 --> 01:19:16,215 Then every crime in England was because of 'Clockwork Orange'. 1120 01:19:16,423 --> 01:19:19,760 Stanley was accused of inciting violence... 1121 01:19:19,968 --> 01:19:23,201 ...and it became very, very ugly. 1122 01:19:23,409 --> 01:19:28,519 He got terrible letters, you know, almost death threats. 1123 01:19:28,727 --> 01:19:30,604 There were some death threats. 1124 01:19:30,812 --> 01:19:33,732 He asked Warner's, "Can you please help me? 1125 01:19:33,941 --> 01:19:37,277 I can't live here if this keeps going on. 1126 01:19:37,590 --> 01:19:42,074 I'm afraid to send my children to school, my house is besieged. 1127 01:19:42,282 --> 01:19:45,202 I don't want to show the film anymore." 1128 01:19:45,410 --> 01:19:49,790 'A Clockwork Orange' had been playing successfully for 61 weeks... 1129 01:19:49,998 --> 01:19:55,212 ...but press attacks and threats of violence against him and his family... 1130 01:19:55,420 --> 01:19:58,966 ...drove Kubrick to withdraw the film from British cinemas. 1131 01:19:59,278 --> 01:20:02,407 It was an astonishing display of director power. 1132 01:20:02,719 --> 01:20:05,430 What came over to us was that a filmmaker should have... 1133 01:20:07,307 --> 01:20:11,061 ...the kind of power that he had to be able to do it. 1134 01:20:11,270 --> 01:20:16,692 There's no other filmmaker who could stop a studio distributing their film. 1135 01:20:17,005 --> 01:20:19,611 Studios are about making money. 1136 01:20:19,820 --> 01:20:23,782 For him to be able to do that was always astonishing to us. 1137 01:20:23,991 --> 01:20:26,806 I remember me as a young filmmaker thinking: 1138 01:20:27,015 --> 01:20:28,891 "That's extraordinary." 1139 01:20:29,100 --> 01:20:33,271 But more than that is, actually, he had the will to do it. 1140 01:20:33,479 --> 01:20:35,982 It hurt him financially, but he didn't care. 1141 01:20:36,190 --> 01:20:40,153 It hurt Warner Bros. even more financially, but they obliged. 1142 01:20:40,465 --> 01:20:42,759 It wasn't worth it to them. 1143 01:20:42,968 --> 01:20:47,347 Having peace with Stanley, and making more films with Stanley. 1144 01:20:47,556 --> 01:20:52,457 Having him under contract for the rest of his life was more important... 1145 01:20:52,665 --> 01:20:54,542 ...than if the film played in England. 1146 01:20:55,168 --> 01:20:59,234 For the release of the film, Kubrick went beyond the role of a director... 1147 01:20:59,443 --> 01:21:04,239 ...persuading Warner Bros. about how the film should be sold. 1148 01:21:04,448 --> 01:21:07,367 If you've taken all the trouble with preproduction, shooting... 1149 01:21:09,036 --> 01:21:13,415 ...with the postproduction and trying to get the film together... 1150 01:21:13,728 --> 01:21:15,709 ...and approach it in so many ways... 1151 01:21:15,918 --> 01:21:20,401 ...why do you not be a part of it just when the public's gonna see it? 1152 01:21:20,714 --> 01:21:24,051 'Clockwork Orange' was the second largest-grossing film... 1153 01:21:24,259 --> 01:21:27,179 ...in the history of Warner's after 'My Fair Lady'. 1154 01:21:27,387 --> 01:21:31,767 I'd meet with the foreign distribution guys and say, "Wait a minute. 1155 01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:35,208 What we're doing is following Stanley's instruction... 1156 01:21:35,416 --> 01:21:40,004 ...and getting a great result. We're grossing huge numbers on a picture... 1157 01:21:40,213 --> 01:21:45,322 ...you said would be a catastrophe because it was so inaccessible. 1158 01:21:45,948 --> 01:21:49,701 Is it not possible that he knows something we don't know? 1159 01:21:49,910 --> 01:21:53,664 Is it not possible that his way is a better way?" 1160 01:21:53,976 --> 01:21:57,417 They go, "No, he doesn't know. He's just a pain in the ass." 1161 01:21:57,626 --> 01:22:00,546 Kubrick had a unique relationship with Warner Bros.: 1162 01:22:00,754 --> 01:22:05,863 Complete creative control and the support of a major Hollywood studio. 1163 01:22:06,176 --> 01:22:09,200 We all envied that more than anything over here. 1164 01:22:09,409 --> 01:22:13,579 The fact that one studio would support an artist in that way... 1165 01:22:13,788 --> 01:22:15,039 ...is extraordinary. 1166 01:22:15,352 --> 01:22:17,855 It was a question of working with a master... 1167 01:22:19,210 --> 01:22:21,817 ...and wanting to do the movies of Stanley Kubrick. 1168 01:22:22,025 --> 01:22:26,718 There weren't runaway costs, it was always overblown... 1169 01:22:26,926 --> 01:22:30,784 ...and overestimated because he shot films for long periods of time. 1170 01:22:30,993 --> 01:22:32,661 But he did them at low cost. 1171 01:22:32,870 --> 01:22:37,249 You'd walk on a Kubrick set, which was almost never allowed, I might add... 1172 01:22:37,457 --> 01:22:41,211 ...and marvel at the fact that there was hardly anyone there. 1173 01:22:41,420 --> 01:22:46,112 Compared to most movies, there'd be crowds of people with donuts... 1174 01:22:46,425 --> 01:22:49,240 ...and passing coffee and people coming and going. 1175 01:22:49,449 --> 01:22:51,743 I saw it as an absolute priority. 1176 01:22:51,951 --> 01:22:54,975 Something that we were gonna focus our attention on... 1177 01:22:55,184 --> 01:22:58,416 ...and that continued to nurture the relationship... 1178 01:22:58,729 --> 01:23:00,501 ...and to enhance the relationship. 1179 01:23:00,814 --> 01:23:05,089 He was obviously always a step ahead of me. He called me once... 1180 01:23:05,402 --> 01:23:07,279 ...I was at Warner's... 1181 01:23:07,905 --> 01:23:11,033 ...I think he was getting ready to do 'Lyndon'... 1182 01:23:11,346 --> 01:23:14,369 ...and he said, "Do you have any of those... 1183 01:23:14,578 --> 01:23:18,332 ...special BNC cameras that we used for rear process?" 1184 01:23:18,540 --> 01:23:20,938 I said, "Why?" He said, "For sentimental reasons... 1185 01:23:21,147 --> 01:23:24,588 ...I'd love to buy one from you if I could get one." 1186 01:23:24,796 --> 01:23:29,280 I called the camera department and I said, "Do you have any?" 1187 01:23:29,489 --> 01:23:31,470 They said, "We've got a couple." 1188 01:23:31,678 --> 01:23:34,702 I called Stanley back and said, "I got a couple." 1189 01:23:35,015 --> 01:23:38,977 He said, "I'd love to get those cameras. I admire the workmanship." 1190 01:23:39,916 --> 01:23:44,816 I said, "Great," and sent him one or maybe two, I can't remember. 1191 01:23:45,025 --> 01:23:50,030 About six months later, Gottschalk, who ran Panavision for us... 1192 01:23:50,239 --> 01:23:56,078 ...and who was a certified camera and opticals genius, called and said: 1193 01:23:56,286 --> 01:24:00,770 "Why are you sending those rear-projection cameras to Kubrick?" 1194 01:24:00,978 --> 01:24:03,794 I said, "He asked for them, they sit down there... 1195 01:24:04,002 --> 01:24:06,713 ...we don't use rear projection anymore." 1196 01:24:06,922 --> 01:24:11,927 He said, "They're priceless, the most fantastic works ever put in a camera. 1197 01:24:12,135 --> 01:24:17,140 They are brilliantly conceived and brilliantly executed camera works. 1198 01:24:17,349 --> 01:24:20,686 You couldn't build a camera like it if your life depended on it. 1199 01:24:20,894 --> 01:24:25,065 I want to get every one I can, because I can't duplicate them." 1200 01:24:25,274 --> 01:24:30,696 Stanley had anticipated it and acquired and built his own cameras! 1201 01:24:30,904 --> 01:24:35,179 He looked for the old-fashioned Mitchell BNC cameras... 1202 01:24:35,388 --> 01:24:37,682 ...for a very specific reason. 1203 01:24:37,890 --> 01:24:40,914 These were the only cameras where he had a chance... 1204 01:24:41,123 --> 01:24:44,459 ...of fitting these big Zeiss lenses. 1205 01:24:44,772 --> 01:24:49,673 Stanley sent me this lens and said, could I mount it on his BNC camera? 1206 01:24:49,882 --> 01:24:53,635 I said it's absolutely impossible because the BNC has two shutters... 1207 01:24:55,095 --> 01:24:57,806 ...a thick aperture plate, and all that... 1208 01:24:58,015 --> 01:25:01,768 ...between the film plane and the rear element of the lens. 1209 01:25:02,081 --> 01:25:05,731 And so I explained that to Stanley and said we'd have to... 1210 01:25:06,044 --> 01:25:10,319 ...damn near wreck your camera and make it purely dedicated. 1211 01:25:10,527 --> 01:25:12,300 He said, "Go ahead and do it." 1212 01:25:12,821 --> 01:25:18,243 It originally was designed, developed and manufactured... 1213 01:25:18,452 --> 01:25:21,684 ...by Zeiss, for NASA. 1214 01:25:21,997 --> 01:25:27,002 NASA was planning to use it in satellite photography. 1215 01:25:27,211 --> 01:25:32,633 For that reason, it's an extremely fast lens. It's an f0.7... 1216 01:25:33,154 --> 01:25:37,638 ...which is two stops faster than lenses that are available even today. 1217 01:25:37,950 --> 01:25:41,496 Of course, Stanley's intention for these lenses was to shoot... 1218 01:25:41,704 --> 01:25:45,145 ...the famous candlelit scenes in 'Barry Lyndon'. 1219 01:25:45,354 --> 01:25:50,776 That being the case, he shot with the lenses wide open, f0.7. 1220 01:25:50,984 --> 01:25:56,198 The consequence of that, he had practically no depth of field at all. 1221 01:25:56,406 --> 01:25:59,430 It was quite a chore to do it, but of course... 1222 01:25:59,639 --> 01:26:01,933 ...the images were absolutely gorgeous. 1223 01:26:20,806 --> 01:26:24,351 I think Stanley would have a concept of wanting to do something... 1224 01:26:25,602 --> 01:26:28,939 ...in a way that it had never been achieved before. 1225 01:26:29,147 --> 01:26:33,735 He wanted to put himself into that century and with these characters... 1226 01:26:33,944 --> 01:26:37,593 ...and these settings and give you a way of seeing them... 1227 01:26:37,906 --> 01:26:41,139 ...as they would've been seen at the time the book was written. 1228 01:26:41,347 --> 01:26:46,456 Yet he used the most extraordinarily modern and daring instruments. 1229 01:26:46,665 --> 01:26:50,836 The fact that he used these candles. That's part of it... 1230 01:26:51,149 --> 01:26:55,215 ...but also the interiors, the way sunlight came into rooms. 1231 01:26:55,528 --> 01:26:58,552 It was to achieve the presence in a period... 1232 01:26:58,760 --> 01:27:02,618 ...in a way that I don't think anybody had ever done it before. 1233 01:27:02,827 --> 01:27:07,623 I knew it was a costume piece, but I hoped he'd take it somewhere else. 1234 01:27:07,936 --> 01:27:11,481 He took it back in time. The use of the zoom lens is interesting... 1235 01:27:11,690 --> 01:27:15,027 ...because you'd never think to use a zoom lens in the past. 1236 01:27:15,340 --> 01:27:19,615 No, the zoom lens flattens it out like the 18th-century painting. 1237 01:27:19,823 --> 01:27:22,326 The movement, body language... 1238 01:27:22,534 --> 01:27:25,037 ...and the use of music and editing... 1239 01:27:25,245 --> 01:27:29,625 ...how transporting that moment is when Ryan O'Neal, who's wonderful... 1240 01:27:29,833 --> 01:27:34,838 ...and Marisa Berenson as he meets her, kissing her on the balcony... 1241 01:27:35,151 --> 01:27:36,715 ...with the music and movement. 1242 01:28:30,832 --> 01:28:35,315 Stanley did not want the film to look like a traditional movie... 1243 01:28:35,628 --> 01:28:38,548 ...where period clothes look like wardrobes. 1244 01:28:38,861 --> 01:28:41,989 He wanted the clothes to move and have life. 1245 01:28:43,866 --> 01:28:47,202 He wanted to do something reminiscent of certain painters of that period. 1246 01:28:48,141 --> 01:28:52,103 Stanley sent me to all kinds of auction houses who were dealing... 1247 01:28:52,416 --> 01:28:56,378 ...with period costumes, so we were mixing some period costumes. 1248 01:28:56,587 --> 01:29:01,175 Stanley wanted beautiful materials, as he quite rightly said: 1249 01:29:01,487 --> 01:29:05,554 "That's why in those paintings they gave those wonderful lights." 1250 01:29:05,762 --> 01:29:07,744 Everybody talks of 'Barry Lyndon'... 1251 01:29:08,056 --> 01:29:10,559 ...as a beautiful 18th-century movie. 1252 01:29:10,767 --> 01:29:14,938 It's because of the way he shot it, the way he pushed us to do our work. 1253 01:29:15,251 --> 01:29:17,441 You know, as an artist... 1254 01:29:17,649 --> 01:29:22,133 ...you very often instinctively design... 1255 01:29:22,446 --> 01:29:25,157 ...and to intellectually justify... 1256 01:29:27,659 --> 01:29:30,787 ...your creativity... 1257 01:29:30,996 --> 01:29:33,186 ...is very difficult. 1258 01:29:33,394 --> 01:29:36,627 I think the same applies to actors. 1259 01:29:36,835 --> 01:29:40,693 Though he knew and respected, I'm sure, the actors... 1260 01:29:41,006 --> 01:29:46,011 ...he would permutate their performances... 1261 01:29:46,220 --> 01:29:48,096 ...almost to the breaking point. 1262 01:29:48,409 --> 01:29:49,973 I remember... 1263 01:29:51,850 --> 01:29:54,561 ...going on the set one day and there were a thousand candles burning. 1264 01:29:56,021 --> 01:29:58,732 Outside there was a huge storm... 1265 01:29:58,941 --> 01:30:04,467 ...and there were men outside, who, because of the storm had to hold... 1266 01:30:04,676 --> 01:30:05,822 ...the big lamps. 1267 01:30:06,031 --> 01:30:10,619 There was a huge gale in Dublin and the rain was icy cold. 1268 01:30:10,827 --> 01:30:13,956 I thought "I hope they don't have to do it too long." 1269 01:30:14,164 --> 01:30:17,188 And then the candles are burning down very gradually. 1270 01:30:17,397 --> 01:30:21,880 Stanley's just sitting there with Hardy Kr�ger... 1271 01:30:22,089 --> 01:30:26,677 ...discussing a problem Hardy had and he's just saying: 1272 01:30:26,885 --> 01:30:28,971 "Well, Hardy, I think we should..." 1273 01:30:29,283 --> 01:30:32,099 Kr�ger, I think, was getting also in a state. 1274 01:30:32,412 --> 01:30:36,687 It was interesting, never getting flustered, never raising his voice. 1275 01:30:36,999 --> 01:30:39,085 He was great working with actors because it was one-to-one. 1276 01:30:40,545 --> 01:30:42,734 You had a relationship with the director. 1277 01:30:43,047 --> 01:30:46,697 If he was working with any detail on a role with an actor... 1278 01:30:47,010 --> 01:30:50,763 ...the others were there, but it was just you and him. 1279 01:30:50,972 --> 01:30:53,161 What is your call, Lord Bullingdon? 1280 01:30:54,726 --> 01:30:56,081 Heads. 1281 01:31:04,527 --> 01:31:06,091 It is heads. 1282 01:31:07,342 --> 01:31:09,845 Lord Bullingdon will have the first fire. 1283 01:31:14,224 --> 01:31:15,684 Lord Bullingdon... 1284 01:31:16,310 --> 01:31:17,978 ...will you take your ground? 1285 01:31:18,916 --> 01:31:21,523 And it was the fact that Stanley was so open... 1286 01:31:21,732 --> 01:31:25,694 ...and so engaging. When I asked him a question... 1287 01:31:25,903 --> 01:31:29,448 ...it might be about the lighting or the camera, the lenses... 1288 01:31:29,656 --> 01:31:35,078 ...he would take the trouble to talk about it in a really... 1289 01:31:35,287 --> 01:31:38,728 ...well-detailed way so that I understood what was happening... 1290 01:31:39,041 --> 01:31:41,126 ...and that really stimulated me. 1291 01:31:41,439 --> 01:31:45,506 If he came onto the floor, he didn't know how to shoot a scene. 1292 01:31:45,714 --> 01:31:48,529 He wasn't sure how he was gonna do it... 1293 01:31:48,738 --> 01:31:52,387 ...as an actor, I found it stimulating because he was saying: 1294 01:31:52,700 --> 01:31:56,558 "Do whatever it is you think you're gonna do, but do it for real. 1295 01:31:56,871 --> 01:31:59,269 That may change how I'm thinking about the scene." 1296 01:32:05,421 --> 01:32:08,132 Sir Richard, this pistol must be faulty. 1297 01:32:08,758 --> 01:32:10,531 I must have another one. 1298 01:32:11,573 --> 01:32:14,910 I'm sorry, Lord Bullingdon, but you must first stand your ground... 1299 01:32:15,223 --> 01:32:17,621 ...and allow Mr. Lyndon his chance to fire. 1300 01:32:20,436 --> 01:32:22,835 I always felt Stanley was... 1301 01:32:23,147 --> 01:32:27,422 ...a filmmaker most appreciated by his fellow filmmakers. 1302 01:32:27,631 --> 01:32:31,593 Critics were always looking for something that wasn't in the movie... 1303 01:32:31,802 --> 01:32:34,304 ...and then they were disappointed. 1304 01:32:34,513 --> 01:32:37,328 That's a little bit Stanley's fault... 1305 01:32:37,641 --> 01:32:40,143 ...for example, 'Barry Lyndon'. 1306 01:32:40,456 --> 01:32:45,357 I think everybody was expecting a kind of raucous 'Tom Jones' movie. 1307 01:32:45,566 --> 01:32:48,798 You realize as you look at the movie that it's about... 1308 01:32:49,111 --> 01:32:52,447 ...this slightly dim, handsome boy... 1309 01:32:52,656 --> 01:32:57,140 ...trying to find the clues and the cues to what's the right behavior. 1310 01:32:57,348 --> 01:33:02,666 "What's the behavior that's going to advance me in this society?" 1311 01:33:02,875 --> 01:33:07,462 So it's a movie really about a young man defining himself... 1312 01:33:07,671 --> 01:33:10,903 ...in a climate that's foreign to him. 1313 01:33:11,216 --> 01:33:15,491 That's not at all what people were lead to believe it was about. 1314 01:33:15,804 --> 01:33:18,619 'Barry Lyndon' was released just as Hollywood entered... 1315 01:33:18,932 --> 01:33:21,539 ...the age of the blockbuster action movie. 1316 01:33:21,748 --> 01:33:25,814 With a running time of three hours, the film came in for heavy criticism. 1317 01:33:26,023 --> 01:33:31,236 It was labeled as tedious and boring by critics in America and Britain... 1318 01:33:31,549 --> 01:33:35,616 ...but in Europe it was hailed as a film of breathtaking beauty. 1319 01:33:35,928 --> 01:33:38,327 I remember it won four Oscars: 1320 01:33:38,535 --> 01:33:41,663 Cinematography, production design... 1321 01:33:41,872 --> 01:33:44,374 ...costume design and the music. 1322 01:33:44,583 --> 01:33:47,711 I think Stanley was disappointed because in the end... 1323 01:33:48,024 --> 01:33:50,318 ...it wasn't a commercial success. 1324 01:33:50,631 --> 01:33:54,593 He was very, very, very sad and disheartened... 1325 01:33:54,801 --> 01:33:59,911 ...that particularly smaller papers and smaller television stations... 1326 01:34:00,119 --> 01:34:02,205 ...did not at all appreciate... 1327 01:34:02,413 --> 01:34:05,854 ...the tremendous effort that went into these films... 1328 01:34:06,167 --> 01:34:08,148 ...and just simply dismissed it. 1329 01:34:08,461 --> 01:34:11,589 Whatever movie Stanley made, what I love about his work... 1330 01:34:11,798 --> 01:34:14,092 ...is they are completely conscious. 1331 01:34:14,404 --> 01:34:16,907 You may like them, you may not like them... 1332 01:34:17,115 --> 01:34:20,556 ...you may say, "What about this, that or the other thing?" 1333 01:34:22,329 --> 01:34:25,874 But everybody pretty much acknowledges he's the Man... 1334 01:34:28,377 --> 01:34:31,296 ...and I still feel that underrates him. 1335 01:34:32,235 --> 01:34:34,946 Kubrick's next film looked far more commercial. 1336 01:34:35,154 --> 01:34:38,595 With Stephen King's best-selling novel, 'The Shining'... 1337 01:34:38,804 --> 01:34:43,079 ...he took the chance to make a film that would satisfy him artistically... 1338 01:34:43,287 --> 01:34:45,269 ...and meet box office demands. 1339 01:34:45,581 --> 01:34:49,439 I'm asking about 'The Shining', and he says: 1340 01:34:49,648 --> 01:34:52,985 "In reality, this is an optimistic picture." 1341 01:34:53,193 --> 01:34:57,573 I said, "On what basis, Stanley?" And he said-- 1342 01:34:57,781 --> 01:35:03,099 As the existential, pragmatic man that he was, he said: 1343 01:35:03,307 --> 01:35:06,748 "Well, in some way this movie is about ghosts. 1344 01:35:06,957 --> 01:35:11,336 Anything that says there's anything after death is an optimistic story." 1345 01:35:12,379 --> 01:35:15,507 'The Shining' has images that I wake up screaming about. 1346 01:35:15,820 --> 01:35:17,384 That little boy in the hall. 1347 01:35:17,593 --> 01:35:19,052 The tracking shot... 1348 01:35:19,261 --> 01:35:20,616 The boy on the bike. 1349 01:35:20,825 --> 01:35:21,763 ...of the boy. 1350 01:35:22,076 --> 01:35:27,081 The sense of movement it gave that picture inside this foreboding place. 1351 01:35:57,633 --> 01:36:00,552 You know something is building up in this place. 1352 01:36:00,761 --> 01:36:02,846 And the way-- 1353 01:36:03,159 --> 01:36:06,496 It's the blandness, let's say, of the people. 1354 01:36:06,808 --> 01:36:08,164 How quiet they are. 1355 01:36:08,477 --> 01:36:12,439 Is Tony the one that tells you things? 1356 01:36:16,818 --> 01:36:19,321 How does he tell you things? 1357 01:36:21,094 --> 01:36:25,369 It's like I go to sleep and he shows me things. 1358 01:36:25,682 --> 01:36:29,748 But when I wake up, I can't remember everything. 1359 01:36:31,104 --> 01:36:34,440 Has Tony ever told you anything about this place? 1360 01:36:34,649 --> 01:36:37,256 About the Overlook Hotel? 1361 01:36:37,568 --> 01:36:41,218 It's holding back this emotional, powerful punch that'll happen. 1362 01:36:41,426 --> 01:36:44,972 You know it'll come somehow, at some time... 1363 01:36:45,180 --> 01:36:47,787 ...and it just creates such suspense. 1364 01:36:47,995 --> 01:36:49,768 Is there something bad here? 1365 01:36:56,754 --> 01:36:59,987 At first I was taken aback by the performance... 1366 01:37:00,195 --> 01:37:03,428 ...and then after the third or fourth viewing... 1367 01:37:03,740 --> 01:37:06,869 ...I understood the level of intensity... 1368 01:37:07,077 --> 01:37:09,058 ...of what Nicholson was doing. 1369 01:37:09,267 --> 01:37:12,708 I'm not sure that it's intended to be... 1370 01:37:13,021 --> 01:37:16,566 ...what a typical horror movie is, which is a realistic portrayal... 1371 01:37:16,774 --> 01:37:19,485 ...of supernatural spookiness. 1372 01:37:19,798 --> 01:37:23,239 I think that what's going on in that movie... 1373 01:37:23,448 --> 01:37:27,618 ...is largely going on in Jack Nicholson's head. 1374 01:37:35,439 --> 01:37:36,899 Hi, Lloyd. 1375 01:37:40,444 --> 01:37:42,946 A little slow tonight, isn't it? 1376 01:37:47,743 --> 01:37:49,203 Yes, it is, Mr. Torrance. 1377 01:37:49,411 --> 01:37:52,122 I like the kind of film he makes. 1378 01:37:52,435 --> 01:37:56,084 I don't need to be naturalistic in a film... 1379 01:37:56,397 --> 01:37:59,108 ...to feel satisfied as an actor. 1380 01:37:59,838 --> 01:38:02,653 One thing he said to me that I'll always remember was: 1381 01:38:02,966 --> 01:38:05,469 "In movies you don't... 1382 01:38:05,677 --> 01:38:09,431 ...try and photograph the reality... 1383 01:38:09,640 --> 01:38:13,498 ...you try and photograph the photograph of the reality." 1384 01:38:13,810 --> 01:38:18,920 I knew it wouldn't be a performance about idiosyncratic behaviorism... 1385 01:38:19,650 --> 01:38:23,716 ...but that it would be-- I always thought of it as balletic... 1386 01:38:24,029 --> 01:38:25,176 ...in 'The Shining'. 1387 01:38:25,489 --> 01:38:27,887 Another lesson was, "Here Jack... 1388 01:38:28,200 --> 01:38:31,641 ...the script says, 'Jack is not writing.' 1389 01:38:31,954 --> 01:38:34,873 The question is, what is he doing?" 1390 01:38:35,082 --> 01:38:39,044 I said, "Whenever I'm inside a big empty place... 1391 01:38:39,357 --> 01:38:42,172 ...that you normally wouldn't be alone in... 1392 01:38:42,381 --> 01:38:46,760 ...I always think of doing things that I might do outside." 1393 01:38:46,969 --> 01:38:51,139 And that's where throwing that tennis ball all during the picture-- 1394 01:38:51,348 --> 01:38:54,685 And it wound up being a big part of staging. 1395 01:38:54,997 --> 01:38:56,874 It rolls into things... 1396 01:38:57,083 --> 01:39:01,254 ...it's thrown the length of hallways, all those kinds of things. 1397 01:39:01,567 --> 01:39:05,216 And it's from those little things that he would develop... 1398 01:39:05,425 --> 01:39:08,136 ...preconceived idiosyncrasy. 1399 01:39:08,448 --> 01:39:11,055 He always knew what he was going to get. 1400 01:39:11,368 --> 01:39:15,852 He said often that every scene, really, has been done. 1401 01:39:16,060 --> 01:39:19,501 Our job is always to do it just a little bit better. 1402 01:39:20,127 --> 01:39:21,899 Mr. Grady... 1403 01:39:22,421 --> 01:39:25,653 ...you were the caretaker here. 1404 01:39:33,473 --> 01:39:36,185 I'm sorry to differ with you, sir. 1405 01:39:38,061 --> 01:39:39,938 But you... 1406 01:39:40,564 --> 01:39:42,441 ...are the caretaker. 1407 01:39:44,735 --> 01:39:47,550 You've always been the caretaker. 1408 01:39:50,574 --> 01:39:52,451 I should know, sir. 1409 01:39:53,702 --> 01:39:55,892 I've always been here. 1410 01:39:56,100 --> 01:39:59,228 We had a good, friendly relationship. 1411 01:39:59,541 --> 01:40:03,191 I mean he'd turn on you in a moment and say: 1412 01:40:03,399 --> 01:40:06,423 "All right, you're the big fella. Let's see it." 1413 01:40:06,632 --> 01:40:09,968 That's about as harsh as he ever got with me. 1414 01:40:10,177 --> 01:40:13,618 He was a completely different director with Shelley. 1415 01:40:13,826 --> 01:40:15,807 - Roll the video? - Two seconds. 1416 01:40:16,120 --> 01:40:17,997 We're killing ourselves. Be ready! 1417 01:40:19,353 --> 01:40:20,917 - I'm standing right by the door. - Mood music? 1418 01:40:21,125 --> 01:40:23,732 - I can't hear. - When you came out like this-- 1419 01:40:23,941 --> 01:40:25,922 - Look desperate. - They say, "Wait." 1420 01:40:26,130 --> 01:40:29,258 - Then you say, "Go." - You've got to look desperate. 1421 01:40:29,467 --> 01:40:32,491 - You're wasting our time. - I can't get the door open. 1422 01:40:32,804 --> 01:40:36,662 For a person so charming and so likeable... 1423 01:40:37,704 --> 01:40:39,477 ...indeed loveable... 1424 01:40:42,918 --> 01:40:45,838 ...he can do some pretty cruel things... 1425 01:40:46,046 --> 01:40:48,340 ...when you're filming. 1426 01:40:48,861 --> 01:40:51,677 Because it seemed to me at times... 1427 01:40:51,885 --> 01:40:55,013 ...that the end justified the means. 1428 01:41:03,146 --> 01:41:04,189 Don't! 1429 01:41:05,023 --> 01:41:06,275 Stop it! 1430 01:41:10,445 --> 01:41:11,905 Here's Johnny! 1431 01:41:14,616 --> 01:41:16,597 It was a very difficult role. 1432 01:41:16,806 --> 01:41:20,768 It was a long shoot and I had to cry and hyperventilate... 1433 01:41:20,977 --> 01:41:23,584 ...and carry a little boy and run... 1434 01:41:23,896 --> 01:41:26,086 ...for most of the time we shot. 1435 01:41:26,399 --> 01:41:30,153 And that was about a year, a little over a year. 1436 01:41:30,465 --> 01:41:33,802 Anywhere between 30 and 50 videotaped rehearsals... 1437 01:41:34,011 --> 01:41:35,783 ...before we even rolled film. 1438 01:41:36,096 --> 01:41:39,328 I wouldn't trade the experience for anything. 1439 01:41:39,641 --> 01:41:41,935 Why? Because of Stanley. 1440 01:41:43,187 --> 01:41:46,940 And it was a fascinating learning experience. 1441 01:41:47,253 --> 01:41:52,362 It was such intense work, that I think it makes you smarter. 1442 01:41:52,779 --> 01:41:55,595 But I wouldn't want to go through it again. 1443 01:41:59,453 --> 01:42:02,164 We were working with the material in the book... 1444 01:42:02,372 --> 01:42:05,083 ...and trying to make music that fit the mood... 1445 01:42:06,543 --> 01:42:09,254 ...of an updated Gothic horror story. 1446 01:42:09,463 --> 01:42:14,259 Which is what 'The Shining' is, really, as a novel, in any case. 1447 01:42:14,468 --> 01:42:18,639 Of course, the stylization that came out from the filming... 1448 01:42:18,951 --> 01:42:20,933 ...was not present in the book. 1449 01:42:21,350 --> 01:42:24,269 And so we failed in our attempt. 1450 01:42:24,478 --> 01:42:27,397 Which is why there's other music in the movie. 1451 01:42:28,232 --> 01:42:29,691 Danny, you win. 1452 01:42:30,004 --> 01:42:32,090 Let's take the rest of this walking. 1453 01:42:32,298 --> 01:42:34,905 A lot of the music cues are combinations... 1454 01:42:35,218 --> 01:42:38,450 ...of some of Ligeti's music, some of Penderecki's music. 1455 01:42:44,289 --> 01:42:47,000 And lots of background patterns and textures... 1456 01:42:47,313 --> 01:42:50,963 ...with heartbeats and sizzling, electronic, weird sounds... 1457 01:42:51,380 --> 01:42:55,968 ...all mixed together. That's how he finally did what he was looking for. 1458 01:43:07,229 --> 01:43:10,044 When 'The Shining' was released, the response was mixed. 1459 01:43:10,253 --> 01:43:13,068 Some people appreciated its riddles and ambiguities. 1460 01:43:13,381 --> 01:43:17,030 Others felt Kubrick had strayed too far from King's book. 1461 01:43:17,343 --> 01:43:18,907 When I say that the people... 1462 01:43:19,324 --> 01:43:22,870 ...who love Stanley's movies were mostly movie people... 1463 01:43:23,182 --> 01:43:26,415 ...they're just looking at what's in the frame. 1464 01:43:26,623 --> 01:43:29,126 What's the "movieness" of the movie. 1465 01:43:29,334 --> 01:43:33,609 They, of course, love Stanley in a very uncomplicated way. 1466 01:43:33,922 --> 01:43:37,467 Whereas the critical community... 1467 01:43:37,676 --> 01:43:40,387 ...tends to fuss and fidget... 1468 01:43:40,700 --> 01:43:43,515 ...over what Stanley did. 1469 01:43:43,724 --> 01:43:46,330 After 'The Shining', Kubrick and his family... 1470 01:43:46,643 --> 01:43:49,563 ...moved to a mansion in the Hertfordshire countryside. 1471 01:43:49,980 --> 01:43:53,525 Except when filming on location, he would do all his work here... 1472 01:43:53,734 --> 01:43:56,132 ...supported by a small, dedicated team. 1473 01:43:56,341 --> 01:43:59,052 The joke we had about Stanley was-- 1474 01:43:59,260 --> 01:44:02,284 This was the line you would never hear from him... 1475 01:44:02,492 --> 01:44:06,976 ...was, "Don't bother me with details, I've got faith in your judgment." 1476 01:44:07,289 --> 01:44:10,000 Stanley would involve himself to such an extent... 1477 01:44:10,209 --> 01:44:14,379 ...with the detail of stuff that one thought was a bit beneath him. 1478 01:44:14,588 --> 01:44:16,673 He should've been doing major stuff... 1479 01:44:16,986 --> 01:44:20,427 ...not worrying about how you had files in your office. 1480 01:44:20,636 --> 01:44:25,119 I guess he saw it as a package deal. You either cared or you didn't. 1481 01:44:25,328 --> 01:44:28,143 When we went to Ireland on 'Barry Lyndon'... 1482 01:44:29,603 --> 01:44:31,480 ...he left this 15-page document... 1483 01:44:31,688 --> 01:44:34,816 ...of care instructions of how to look after the animals. 1484 01:44:35,025 --> 01:44:39,092 And the 37th instruction is: 1485 01:44:39,404 --> 01:44:42,220 "If a fight should develop between Freddy and Leo--" 1486 01:44:42,428 --> 01:44:45,765 That was a father and son tomcats that we had-- 1487 01:44:46,078 --> 01:44:49,310 "The only way you can do anything is dump water on them... 1488 01:44:49,519 --> 01:44:51,917 ...try to grab Freddy and run out of the room. 1489 01:44:52,125 --> 01:44:54,419 Do not try and pick up Leo. 1490 01:44:54,628 --> 01:44:59,007 Alternatively, if you open a door and let Freddy out, he can outrun Leo... 1491 01:44:59,216 --> 01:45:02,657 ...but if trapped in a place where you can't separate them... 1492 01:45:02,865 --> 01:45:05,889 ...keep dumping water, shouting, jumping up and down... 1493 01:45:06,098 --> 01:45:08,183 ...and distracting and waving shirts. 1494 01:45:08,392 --> 01:45:10,998 Just try and get them apart and grab Freddy." 1495 01:45:11,311 --> 01:45:13,918 I remember once he had a cat that was drinking excessively and I said: 1496 01:45:15,482 --> 01:45:18,402 "Perhaps you can measure how much he's drinking." 1497 01:45:18,715 --> 01:45:21,843 He said, "No, that's impossible. There are too many cats." 1498 01:45:22,155 --> 01:45:26,222 Then he phoned back and said, "I could count the number of laps." 1499 01:45:26,431 --> 01:45:30,914 And he said, "How much does each lap take up in terms of water?" 1500 01:45:31,123 --> 01:45:33,625 I said, "I don't think there's any information." 1501 01:45:33,834 --> 01:45:35,919 He said, "I'll try and find out." 1502 01:45:36,232 --> 01:45:38,839 He'd go off and try and find out... 1503 01:45:39,047 --> 01:45:41,446 ...then he'd work it out and have a figure. 1504 01:45:41,758 --> 01:45:43,740 He was compulsive in that way. 1505 01:45:43,948 --> 01:45:46,555 He was a kind of ultimate Jewish mother. 1506 01:45:46,763 --> 01:45:49,787 If an animal was ill or if one of us were ill... 1507 01:45:51,560 --> 01:45:53,437 ...Stanley was like Superman. 1508 01:45:53,645 --> 01:45:56,356 I was very ill myself for quite a while... 1509 01:45:56,565 --> 01:45:59,693 ...and he was so sweet... 1510 01:46:00,110 --> 01:46:01,883 ...so kind, so loyal. 1511 01:46:02,196 --> 01:46:05,532 Everything you want somebody to be, he was. 1512 01:46:05,845 --> 01:46:09,390 He was really, really kind. 1513 01:46:11,684 --> 01:46:14,291 However, when you weren't ill... 1514 01:46:14,499 --> 01:46:16,376 ...that's when you bought it. 1515 01:46:16,585 --> 01:46:19,087 He very seldom praised you, because he had this obsession... 1516 01:46:20,547 --> 01:46:22,633 ...that if he praised you... 1517 01:46:22,841 --> 01:46:25,969 ...you would fall to pieces and not do the job right. 1518 01:46:26,282 --> 01:46:30,036 He knew how far he could push you. That was the other clever thing. 1519 01:46:30,244 --> 01:46:34,311 Occasionally he pushed too far then was confused why you were angry. 1520 01:46:34,520 --> 01:46:38,482 Philosophically, he was just no-nonsense... 1521 01:46:38,795 --> 01:46:42,236 ...honest, had his view... 1522 01:46:42,444 --> 01:46:44,530 ...very cool view of humanity. 1523 01:46:44,947 --> 01:46:48,596 He was a warm guy at home, I'm sure everybody says that. 1524 01:46:48,805 --> 01:46:51,203 Crazy about animals... 1525 01:46:51,516 --> 01:46:53,914 ...but could be... 1526 01:46:54,122 --> 01:46:56,938 ...brutal with people he worked with. 1527 01:46:57,146 --> 01:46:59,232 He wasn't all that way. 1528 01:46:59,545 --> 01:47:02,777 Sometimes he could be generous as well. 1529 01:47:03,090 --> 01:47:06,635 But he felt everybody was an opponent. 1530 01:47:06,948 --> 01:47:10,597 No matter what, he wasn't sure they weren't-- 1531 01:47:10,806 --> 01:47:14,142 Didn't have an agenda of their own. 1532 01:47:14,351 --> 01:47:17,062 And he wasn't gonna have that on his pictures. 1533 01:47:17,583 --> 01:47:19,773 I'm asking the fucking questions, understand? 1534 01:47:21,233 --> 01:47:24,152 Thank you! Can I be in charge for a while? 1535 01:47:25,195 --> 01:47:26,864 Are you shook up? Nervous? 1536 01:47:27,281 --> 01:47:28,323 Sir, I am, sir! 1537 01:47:28,532 --> 01:47:29,992 Do I make you nervous? 1538 01:47:31,451 --> 01:47:33,328 Were you about to call me an asshole? 1539 01:47:33,537 --> 01:47:35,831 Full Metal Jacket was based on a novel... 1540 01:47:36,144 --> 01:47:40,002 ...The Short-Timers, by Gustav Hasford, a Vietnam veteran. 1541 01:47:40,314 --> 01:47:43,651 He collaborated on the screenplay with Kubrick and Herr... 1542 01:47:43,860 --> 01:47:45,945 ...who covered the war as a correspondent. 1543 01:47:46,154 --> 01:47:49,595 He was thinking about making a war movie. 1544 01:47:49,803 --> 01:47:52,306 I said, "You already made Paths of Glory." 1545 01:47:53,765 --> 01:47:55,955 He said, "People think of that as an anti-war movie. 1546 01:47:56,268 --> 01:47:58,458 I want to make a war movie... 1547 01:47:58,666 --> 01:48:02,211 ...just to consider the subject... 1548 01:48:02,420 --> 01:48:05,340 ...without a moral or political position... 1549 01:48:05,652 --> 01:48:07,321 ...but as a phenomenon." 1550 01:48:18,478 --> 01:48:21,502 Holy shit! The sniper has a clean shot through the hole! 1551 01:48:24,004 --> 01:48:27,966 What he ended up doing in Full Metal Jacket... 1552 01:48:28,175 --> 01:48:32,658 ...he had almost the detachment of the view. 1553 01:48:32,971 --> 01:48:38,081 It's like a god's-eye view of combat in the second half of the film. 1554 01:48:38,393 --> 01:48:42,356 It seems to be so still and removed. 1555 01:48:42,773 --> 01:48:45,380 The cleanliness of it... 1556 01:48:45,588 --> 01:48:48,403 ...and the power of it. 1557 01:48:49,029 --> 01:48:53,825 And the beauty of it, because it was all so beautifully filmed. 1558 01:48:54,243 --> 01:48:57,371 And he understood that it was accepted... 1559 01:48:57,684 --> 01:49:00,186 ...that it was quite okay to acknowledge... 1560 01:49:00,499 --> 01:49:04,982 ...that among all the things war is, it's also very beautiful. 1561 01:49:05,191 --> 01:49:09,466 It's the only film that's ever given you a real idea what it's like... 1562 01:49:09,675 --> 01:49:13,846 ...also what the kids go through and how important a drill sergeant is. 1563 01:49:14,054 --> 01:49:15,722 That's right, Private Pyle... 1564 01:49:16,139 --> 01:49:19,476 ...don't make any fucking effort to get up to the top! 1565 01:49:20,102 --> 01:49:24,585 If God wanted you up there, He would have miracled your ass up there! 1566 01:49:25,420 --> 01:49:27,296 Get your fat ass up there! 1567 01:49:27,609 --> 01:49:29,903 And also the nature... 1568 01:49:30,216 --> 01:49:32,406 ...of the tragedy of it. 1569 01:49:32,823 --> 01:49:36,055 What is your major malfunction, numb-nuts? 1570 01:49:36,368 --> 01:49:40,539 Didn't Mommy and Daddy show you enough attention when you were a child? 1571 01:50:06,294 --> 01:50:07,337 Easy, Leonard. 1572 01:50:11,820 --> 01:50:13,280 Go easy, man. 1573 01:50:46,647 --> 01:50:49,671 And then the whole movie changes and moves out. 1574 01:50:49,879 --> 01:50:53,424 What's interesting about Kubrick is that the structure is all. 1575 01:50:53,633 --> 01:50:57,387 He doesn't deal with traditional dramatic structure, which is good. 1576 01:50:57,699 --> 01:50:58,846 He was experimenting. 1577 01:50:59,055 --> 01:51:00,723 Fucking son of a bitch! 1578 01:51:24,706 --> 01:51:26,687 Looked like something, didn't it? 1579 01:51:26,999 --> 01:51:30,649 For a director who is perceived... 1580 01:51:30,858 --> 01:51:34,924 ...as being completely uptight and controlling... 1581 01:51:35,237 --> 01:51:38,991 ...he was very freeform, Stanley. He'd try anything. 1582 01:51:39,199 --> 01:51:41,493 He'd ask the actors in for meetings... 1583 01:51:41,702 --> 01:51:45,664 ...and say, "There's no such thing as a stupid idea in this context. 1584 01:51:46,290 --> 01:51:48,584 If you have an idea just say it." 1585 01:51:48,792 --> 01:51:51,503 And he'd often adopt them. 1586 01:51:52,025 --> 01:51:54,736 I'm not saying Stanley wasn't a control freak. 1587 01:51:55,048 --> 01:51:57,551 I would never say that. 1588 01:51:57,759 --> 01:52:01,200 But there were many ways he was not controlling. 1589 01:52:01,409 --> 01:52:04,641 You should probably not be-- Should be more... 1590 01:52:05,788 --> 01:52:07,874 ...frightened, then get into that. 1591 01:52:08,082 --> 01:52:09,542 Do something brilliant. 1592 01:52:09,751 --> 01:52:13,921 I loved him, I enjoyed his sense of humor, but I would be lying... 1593 01:52:14,130 --> 01:52:19,135 ...if I didn't say there were times when he was incredibly difficult. 1594 01:52:19,344 --> 01:52:22,784 If you weren't willing to solve the problem as much as he was. 1595 01:52:24,140 --> 01:52:26,017 If you weren't... 1596 01:52:26,225 --> 01:52:30,292 ...as devoted to understanding... 1597 01:52:30,501 --> 01:52:33,837 ...what it was he was trying to go after... 1598 01:52:34,046 --> 01:52:36,131 ...it was really hard for him. 1599 01:52:36,340 --> 01:52:40,615 Sometimes you didn't know what it was he was looking for. 1600 01:52:40,823 --> 01:52:44,786 I remember walking around Beckton Gas Works by myself... 1601 01:52:45,098 --> 01:52:47,184 ...and he drove up in the jeep and said: 1602 01:52:47,392 --> 01:52:50,103 "What's wrong? Why are you walking around?" 1603 01:52:50,416 --> 01:52:54,691 I said, "I don't know what it is you want from me." 1604 01:52:54,900 --> 01:52:57,819 And he said, "Are you crazy? Get in the jeep." 1605 01:52:58,028 --> 01:53:00,426 He said, "I don't want you to do anything. 1606 01:53:00,635 --> 01:53:03,659 I want you just to be yourself, that's all I want." 1607 01:53:03,867 --> 01:53:06,578 You put "Born to Kill" on your helmet and wear a peace button. 1608 01:53:06,787 --> 01:53:08,455 Is that some kind of sick joke? 1609 01:53:10,123 --> 01:53:11,479 Well, what does it mean? 1610 01:53:12,209 --> 01:53:14,920 - I don't know, sir. - You don't know very much. 1611 01:53:15,128 --> 01:53:18,465 Get your head and your ass wired together or I will shit on you! 1612 01:53:19,508 --> 01:53:22,219 Answer my question or you'll stand tall before the Man. 1613 01:53:23,157 --> 01:53:26,181 I was referring to the duality of man, sir. 1614 01:53:27,015 --> 01:53:29,309 The duality of man. The Jungian thing, sir. 1615 01:53:31,186 --> 01:53:32,437 Whose side are you on? 1616 01:53:32,646 --> 01:53:35,670 Kubrick shot part of 'Full Metal Jacket' in London... 1617 01:53:35,878 --> 01:53:40,153 ...where a derelict gasworks was made into the city of Hue, Vietnam. 1618 01:53:40,362 --> 01:53:44,533 The four key elements were the demolition, the signage... 1619 01:53:44,741 --> 01:53:47,244 ...the palm trees and the smoke. 1620 01:53:47,452 --> 01:53:49,434 Most was shot in "magic hour." 1621 01:53:50,998 --> 01:53:53,917 "Magic hour" is that delightful time of day when you're all exhausted... 1622 01:53:54,126 --> 01:53:55,794 ...and the light's perfect. 1623 01:53:58,401 --> 01:53:59,548 He's dead. 1624 01:54:03,197 --> 01:54:05,387 You collaborate with Stanley. 1625 01:54:05,700 --> 01:54:08,307 It's not easy to impress him with what you do... 1626 01:54:08,515 --> 01:54:10,601 ...but if you come out not ticking off about something... 1627 01:54:12,269 --> 01:54:13,624 ...you know you've done well. 1628 01:54:13,833 --> 01:54:16,857 You get very close. You're part of the family. 1629 01:54:17,170 --> 01:54:21,862 It's a very close unit because you're with him 24 hours a day sometimes. 1630 01:54:22,070 --> 01:54:23,843 You eat, drink and sleep it. 1631 01:54:24,052 --> 01:54:26,554 There's no life outside of film with Stanley. 1632 01:54:26,763 --> 01:54:29,578 And if you enjoy it, there's no greater experience. 1633 01:54:29,891 --> 01:54:33,749 Everybody earned their pay when they worked for Stanley. 1634 01:54:33,957 --> 01:54:37,398 But nobody earned their pay the way Stanley earned his pay. 1635 01:54:37,711 --> 01:54:40,214 No one worked as thoroughly, deeply... 1636 01:54:40,631 --> 01:54:43,237 ...obsessively, as Stanley did. 1637 01:54:43,446 --> 01:54:46,053 And he understood when you're making a movie... 1638 01:54:46,261 --> 01:54:49,389 ...you often don't know what you want until you see it. 1639 01:54:49,598 --> 01:54:51,683 Did you try it? Let's give it a crack. 1640 01:54:51,996 --> 01:54:54,394 One way or another... 1641 01:54:54,811 --> 01:54:59,295 ...I felt utterly compensated... 1642 01:55:00,234 --> 01:55:02,319 ...for my time with Stanley. 1643 01:55:02,528 --> 01:55:07,011 If you're in it only for the money, you might have a different feeling. 1644 01:55:07,220 --> 01:55:10,035 But my feeling was that... 1645 01:55:10,244 --> 01:55:13,372 ...I have absolutely had no complaints. 1646 01:55:13,893 --> 01:55:17,751 Kubrick had started work on the idea for 'Full Metal Jacket' in 1980. 1647 01:55:18,585 --> 01:55:20,462 When released 7 years later... 1648 01:55:20,671 --> 01:55:24,112 ...several Vietnam movies had already reached the screen. 1649 01:55:24,320 --> 01:55:29,429 Kubrick, the great innovator, had been overtaken by other filmmakers. 1650 01:55:29,638 --> 01:55:32,245 But it still appealed to a wide audience... 1651 01:55:32,558 --> 01:55:36,416 ...because it bore all the distinctive hallmarks of a Kubrick film. 1652 01:55:36,728 --> 01:55:39,439 He didn't like that he made so few films. 1653 01:55:39,857 --> 01:55:41,942 He always wished he could've done more. 1654 01:55:42,255 --> 01:55:46,217 If he had anything negative in his life... 1655 01:55:46,426 --> 01:55:50,075 ...I think it was that feeling that he was slow. 1656 01:55:50,284 --> 01:55:53,933 I suppose the other thing I noted about Stanley... 1657 01:55:54,142 --> 01:55:57,791 ...was there were still magnificent obsessions he never quite realized. 1658 01:55:59,459 --> 01:56:03,317 His fascination with World War ll and with the movie industry... 1659 01:56:03,630 --> 01:56:05,507 ...and Goebbels during that period. 1660 01:56:05,716 --> 01:56:08,322 For years Kubrick had tried to find a way... 1661 01:56:08,635 --> 01:56:12,181 ...of portraying the appalling inhumanity of the Holocaust on screen. 1662 01:56:12,389 --> 01:56:15,621 He turned Louis Begley's book, Wartime Lies... 1663 01:56:15,830 --> 01:56:17,603 ...into 'Aryan Papers'... 1664 01:56:17,811 --> 01:56:21,982 ...the story of a Jewish family trying to evade capture by the Nazis. 1665 01:56:23,025 --> 01:56:25,527 By the time he was ready for production... 1666 01:56:25,840 --> 01:56:28,655 ...Spielberg had begun shooting Schindler's List. 1667 01:56:29,489 --> 01:56:31,888 Feeling the similarities were too great... 1668 01:56:32,201 --> 01:56:35,433 ...Kubrick reluctantly shelved Aryan Papers. 1669 01:56:35,641 --> 01:56:38,874 Another thing, he felt it just couldn't be told. 1670 01:56:39,082 --> 01:56:42,732 "If I really want to show what I've read and know happened--" 1671 01:56:43,045 --> 01:56:45,130 And he read everything. 1672 01:56:47,320 --> 01:56:49,822 "--How can I even film it? 1673 01:56:50,031 --> 01:56:53,368 How can you even pretend it?" 1674 01:56:54,932 --> 01:56:58,894 He became very depressed during the preparation... 1675 01:56:59,102 --> 01:57:01,709 ...and I was glad when he gave up on it... 1676 01:57:02,022 --> 01:57:05,150 ...because it was really taking its toll. 1677 01:57:05,567 --> 01:57:09,112 Kubrick turned his attention to another longstanding project... 1678 01:57:09,425 --> 01:57:12,032 ...based on a short story by Brian Aldiss. 1679 01:57:12,345 --> 01:57:15,369 But 'A.I.' evolved into such a mammoth undertaking... 1680 01:57:15,577 --> 01:57:18,497 ...he sought the collaboration of another director. 1681 01:57:18,914 --> 01:57:22,876 He said, "You ought to direct 'A.I.' and I should produce it." 1682 01:57:23,189 --> 01:57:25,796 I was shocked. I said, "Yeah, right." 1683 01:57:26,004 --> 01:57:27,568 He said, "I'm serious. 1684 01:57:27,881 --> 01:57:31,009 It would be a Kubrick production of a Spielberg film." 1685 01:57:31,426 --> 01:57:36,223 I remember him actually giving me a title card on the whole proposal. 1686 01:57:36,431 --> 01:57:38,413 I said, "Why would you want to?" 1687 01:57:38,725 --> 01:57:43,105 Because I knew he had been developing this from his heart for so long... 1688 01:57:43,418 --> 01:57:45,920 ...and had contributed so many elements... 1689 01:57:46,129 --> 01:57:49,152 ...beyond Brian's original short story. 1690 01:57:49,778 --> 01:57:51,238 And Stanley said: 1691 01:57:51,551 --> 01:57:55,617 "I think this movie is closer to your sensibility than mine." 1692 01:57:55,826 --> 01:57:57,181 He was so insistent... 1693 01:57:57,494 --> 01:58:00,831 ...he said, "When can you come out and talk in person?" 1694 01:58:01,144 --> 01:58:04,168 I said, "When would you like?" He said, "Tomorrow." 1695 01:58:04,376 --> 01:58:07,400 I was on Long Island, it was during the summer. 1696 01:58:07,608 --> 01:58:11,466 So I got on an airplane the next day and flew to his kitchen. 1697 01:58:11,675 --> 01:58:14,282 We, for the first time, sat down and he said: 1698 01:58:14,490 --> 01:58:16,471 "I'll show you the storyboards." 1699 01:58:16,784 --> 01:58:20,225 And he started to show me a plethora of work... 1700 01:58:20,538 --> 01:58:22,415 ...that he had done. 1701 01:58:22,623 --> 01:58:25,439 It was a project which needed many special effects. 1702 01:58:25,752 --> 01:58:29,610 He eventually postponed the project for technical reasons. 1703 01:58:29,818 --> 01:58:32,946 Computer technology was about to explode... 1704 01:58:33,155 --> 01:58:37,743 ...and he figured he would benefit enormously by waiting a few years. 1705 01:58:38,368 --> 01:58:40,975 So the next project became 'Eyes Wide Shut'. 1706 01:58:41,601 --> 01:58:45,042 When 'Eyes Wide Shut' was announced as Kubrick's next film... 1707 01:58:45,250 --> 01:58:48,483 ...celebrity columnists focused on the mysterious director... 1708 01:58:48,691 --> 01:58:52,341 ...who had not made a film or given an interview in 10 years. 1709 01:58:52,549 --> 01:58:54,113 They rehashed old stories... 1710 01:58:54,426 --> 01:58:57,554 ...which Kubrick had never bothered to deny. 1711 01:58:58,180 --> 01:58:59,640 He had been pegged: 1712 01:59:00,057 --> 01:59:03,393 "Reclusive filmmaker, probably half mad." 1713 01:59:03,602 --> 01:59:07,669 For a man to whom, I think, control was everything... 1714 01:59:07,877 --> 01:59:11,631 ...the notion that he could not, in the last analysis... 1715 01:59:11,839 --> 01:59:15,802 ...control this image that had grown up about who he was... 1716 01:59:16,010 --> 01:59:20,181 ...it must have bought him a despair, like, "The hell with it. 1717 01:59:20,494 --> 01:59:24,456 If that's what they want to think, I can't do anything about it." 1718 01:59:24,665 --> 01:59:26,750 He dealt with it the way he had to. 1719 01:59:26,959 --> 01:59:29,878 I knew it was rubbish which was all that mattered. 1720 01:59:30,191 --> 01:59:32,381 And it mostly was all that mattered to him... 1721 01:59:32,589 --> 01:59:35,717 ...but the more disgusting things upset him. 1722 01:59:35,926 --> 01:59:38,428 He would talk about that sometimes. 1723 01:59:38,637 --> 01:59:42,599 I know until the end of 'Eyes Wide Shut' he'd started to say: 1724 01:59:42,912 --> 01:59:46,874 "Right, now I'm gonna do a few proper interviews... 1725 01:59:47,187 --> 01:59:51,567 ...and try and set the record a little straighter." 1726 01:59:51,775 --> 01:59:54,382 He didn't want to shoot tourists on his lawn... 1727 01:59:54,590 --> 01:59:56,467 ...then give them money when they bleed. 1728 01:59:56,676 --> 02:00:00,013 But also because it's another thing that fits into... 1729 02:00:00,221 --> 02:00:02,411 ...the nerdy monster... 1730 02:00:02,724 --> 02:00:06,060 ...sliming around in his house and hating women. 1731 02:00:06,373 --> 02:00:09,710 Hating women? He was surrounded by them. 1732 02:00:09,918 --> 02:00:13,881 I think there are few men who knew as much about women as he did. 1733 02:00:14,298 --> 02:00:17,321 It's impossible for me to just be objective and say: 1734 02:00:17,530 --> 02:00:21,701 "He should have spoken up. He should have been more gregarious." 1735 02:00:21,909 --> 02:00:24,725 Should? He couldn't. He wasn't. Why should he? 1736 02:00:25,038 --> 02:00:26,185 He had a great nerve. 1737 02:00:26,602 --> 02:00:30,147 He'd open the door to somebody looking for Stanley Kubrick and say: 1738 02:00:30,355 --> 02:00:32,441 "He's not at home." 1739 02:00:32,649 --> 02:00:35,465 For a long time, nobody knew what his face looked like. 1740 02:00:35,673 --> 02:00:38,697 He was very, very knowledgeable about things, Stanley. 1741 02:00:38,906 --> 02:00:41,304 Curious and interested in the world. 1742 02:00:41,617 --> 02:00:43,598 I think people aren't aware of that. 1743 02:00:43,911 --> 02:00:47,143 They think for someone so obsessive and so committed... 1744 02:00:47,456 --> 02:00:50,271 ...that the rest of the world might pass him by. 1745 02:00:50,480 --> 02:00:54,025 He funneled the world into his life, into his kitchen. 1746 02:00:54,338 --> 02:00:57,153 Well, here was a man who set up his life... 1747 02:00:57,466 --> 02:01:02,367 ...so he was warmed constantly by his family and by his circle of friends. 1748 02:01:02,575 --> 02:01:07,163 He was a matter of minutes from the place that he worked. 1749 02:01:07,476 --> 02:01:11,125 Who among us would be anything but envious... 1750 02:01:11,438 --> 02:01:14,671 ...of the way he's managed to set up his life? 1751 02:01:19,988 --> 02:01:22,387 The book is a tract about, you know... 1752 02:01:22,595 --> 02:01:26,557 ...what are the dangers of married life? 1753 02:01:26,766 --> 02:01:29,477 What are the silent desperations... 1754 02:01:29,790 --> 02:01:34,065 ...of keeping an ongoing relationship alive... 1755 02:01:34,378 --> 02:01:36,776 ...and what are the choices? 1756 02:01:36,984 --> 02:01:39,278 You're either in that or you're not. 1757 02:01:39,487 --> 02:01:43,449 And Stanley was very, very much a family man and in it. 1758 02:01:43,658 --> 02:01:48,663 The conjectures that he made about what it might be like outside it... 1759 02:01:48,976 --> 02:01:51,478 ...had a lot to do with his curiosity. 1760 02:01:51,791 --> 02:01:56,900 It was a theme that we both talked about a great deal. 1761 02:01:57,317 --> 02:02:00,863 He thought about it in many different ways. 1762 02:02:01,071 --> 02:02:04,721 It used to come back over the years again and again... 1763 02:02:05,033 --> 02:02:08,266 ...and as you see friends getting divorced and remarried... 1764 02:02:08,474 --> 02:02:10,351 ...the topic would come up again. 1765 02:02:10,560 --> 02:02:13,375 It had so many variations... 1766 02:02:13,584 --> 02:02:17,337 ...and so much really serious thought to it... 1767 02:02:17,650 --> 02:02:20,570 ...that he knew one day he was going to make it. 1768 02:02:20,987 --> 02:02:23,594 May I ask why a beautiful woman... 1769 02:02:24,949 --> 02:02:27,764 ...who could have any man in this room, wants to be married? 1770 02:02:30,684 --> 02:02:32,769 Why wouldn't she? 1771 02:02:34,542 --> 02:02:36,523 Is it as bad as that? 1772 02:02:37,879 --> 02:02:40,277 As good as that. 1773 02:02:40,485 --> 02:02:44,656 Stanley's expectations of people were not really, really high. 1774 02:02:44,865 --> 02:02:46,116 You see it in his films. 1775 02:02:46,429 --> 02:02:49,140 There was human beings he loved. Christiane was the love of his life. 1776 02:02:50,600 --> 02:02:54,145 He would talk about her with-- He adored her. 1777 02:02:54,354 --> 02:02:56,543 That's something people didn't know. 1778 02:02:56,856 --> 02:02:59,254 His daughters, adored them. 1779 02:02:59,463 --> 02:03:03,425 I'd see that because he would talk to me about them, very proudly. 1780 02:03:03,634 --> 02:03:06,762 His understanding of humans... 1781 02:03:06,970 --> 02:03:10,724 ...was that we are very bittersweet. 1782 02:03:11,245 --> 02:03:14,061 But he admired, I think... 1783 02:03:14,686 --> 02:03:19,379 ...like, passion and commitment and loyalty. 1784 02:03:19,587 --> 02:03:22,924 Ultimately, 'Eyes Wide Shut' is about commitment. 1785 02:03:23,237 --> 02:03:26,365 It's a very hopeful film. People see it as dark... 1786 02:03:26,573 --> 02:03:28,137 ...but it's very hopeful. 1787 02:03:32,412 --> 02:03:34,602 I must see you again. 1788 02:03:36,062 --> 02:03:38,981 - That's impossible. - Why? 1789 02:03:40,233 --> 02:03:42,422 Because... 1790 02:03:44,821 --> 02:03:46,072 ...I'm married. 1791 02:03:46,280 --> 02:03:49,409 His films are often thought to be without pity. 1792 02:03:49,617 --> 02:03:52,745 That's a good quality, it seems to me... 1793 02:03:53,058 --> 02:03:57,333 ...because he's saying, "We are like this. We are hopeless, muddled... 1794 02:03:57,542 --> 02:04:02,860 ...fallible, desperate, needing-love human beings." 1795 02:04:03,068 --> 02:04:07,656 In the end, I think that's what is the central quality of his films. 1796 02:04:07,865 --> 02:04:10,576 He tells us about human beings as we are... 1797 02:04:10,784 --> 02:04:13,599 ...not as we'd like to imagine we are. 1798 02:04:13,912 --> 02:04:18,604 The heart of it was illustrating a truth... 1799 02:04:18,813 --> 02:04:21,211 ...about relationships and sexuality. 1800 02:04:21,420 --> 02:04:25,486 It was not illustrated in a literal way... 1801 02:04:25,695 --> 02:04:27,155 ...but in a theatrical way. 1802 02:04:27,363 --> 02:04:29,761 People said the streets weren't like New York. 1803 02:04:29,970 --> 02:04:32,890 I said, "It doesn't matter. Look at the name of the street. 1804 02:04:33,098 --> 02:04:35,705 No such street exists in New York. 1805 02:04:36,018 --> 02:04:39,563 In a funny way, it's as if you're experiencing New York in a dream. 1806 02:04:39,771 --> 02:04:42,170 It seems like New York, but it's not. 1807 02:04:42,378 --> 02:04:47,070 It seems like your wife, you know, but what is she telling me? 1808 02:04:47,383 --> 02:04:50,199 And do I want to know? Maybe I shouldn't ask." 1809 02:04:50,616 --> 02:04:52,180 Because I'm a beautiful woman... 1810 02:04:52,492 --> 02:04:56,768 ...the only reason any man ever wants to talk to me... 1811 02:04:58,644 --> 02:05:02,920 ...is because he wants to fuck me. Is that what you're saying? 1812 02:05:05,526 --> 02:05:10,427 Well, I don't think it's quite that black-and-white... 1813 02:05:12,721 --> 02:05:17,413 ...but I think we both know what men are like. 1814 02:05:19,603 --> 02:05:21,376 So on that basis... 1815 02:05:21,688 --> 02:05:26,693 ...I should conclude that you wanted to fuck those two models. 1816 02:05:28,570 --> 02:05:31,594 There are exceptions. 1817 02:05:33,262 --> 02:05:36,808 And what makes you an exception? 1818 02:05:37,016 --> 02:05:39,414 I took that character of Bill home. 1819 02:05:41,083 --> 02:05:42,855 At times, that was not a nice place to be... 1820 02:05:43,064 --> 02:05:46,818 ...sitting, in that character for that amount of time. 1821 02:05:48,382 --> 02:05:52,448 It really is not the kind of person that I am, that contained... 1822 02:05:52,657 --> 02:05:55,576 ...noncommunicative, likes the daily routine... 1823 02:05:55,889 --> 02:05:57,870 ...the stability of his life. 1824 02:05:58,079 --> 02:06:00,581 Ignoring his wife in that relationship. 1825 02:06:00,894 --> 02:06:02,354 Not wanting to rock the boat. 1826 02:06:02,667 --> 02:06:04,961 Taking things for granted, Bill did. 1827 02:06:05,274 --> 02:06:08,402 Took her, his family and his life for granted. 1828 02:06:08,715 --> 02:06:12,468 He's just a little too smug, and she just goes, "bang." 1829 02:06:12,781 --> 02:06:16,743 I first saw him that morning in the lobby. 1830 02:06:17,578 --> 02:06:20,289 He was checking into the hotel... 1831 02:06:20,497 --> 02:06:23,938 ...and he was following the bellboy with his luggage... 1832 02:06:24,668 --> 02:06:26,753 ...to the elevator. 1833 02:06:31,237 --> 02:06:35,616 He glanced at me as he walked past. Just a glance. 1834 02:06:36,868 --> 02:06:38,640 Nothing more. 1835 02:06:45,939 --> 02:06:49,067 But I could hardly... 1836 02:06:50,736 --> 02:06:52,300 ...move. 1837 02:06:55,115 --> 02:06:57,096 When we went to rehearse that scene... 1838 02:06:57,305 --> 02:07:02,414 ...it was the three of us and we just kind of got in our underwear... 1839 02:07:02,623 --> 02:07:05,229 ...not Stanley, we got in our underwear. 1840 02:07:06,585 --> 02:07:09,922 And we just talked about the scene... 1841 02:07:10,234 --> 02:07:12,841 ...and didn't really worry about the lines. 1842 02:07:13,050 --> 02:07:15,135 It just slowly evolved. 1843 02:07:15,448 --> 02:07:20,140 We were doing take after take. I said to Stanley, "What do you want?" 1844 02:07:20,453 --> 02:07:23,685 He said, "I want the magic. I want the magic." 1845 02:07:23,894 --> 02:07:28,899 But then as the scene progressed, take after take doing it... 1846 02:07:29,107 --> 02:07:32,653 ...you'd feel the scene reach a level everyone felt was interesting... 1847 02:07:32,965 --> 02:07:37,553 ...then we'd keep working on it and it would feel bad. 1848 02:07:37,866 --> 02:07:40,994 It was stale. It just didn't-- It wasn't working 1849 02:07:41,203 --> 02:07:45,999 And then suddenly we could feel it break into a place... 1850 02:07:46,208 --> 02:07:49,962 ...that none of us had really thought of before. 1851 02:07:50,274 --> 02:07:52,568 The process of the film was a discovery. 1852 02:07:52,881 --> 02:07:56,531 It was never about the result. It was never about: 1853 02:07:56,844 --> 02:08:02,161 "Well, we have a week to shoot this scene. So quick, let's do it. 1854 02:08:02,370 --> 02:08:05,707 We may not fully explore it, but we'll get something good." 1855 02:08:06,019 --> 02:08:09,356 Stanley wanted to explore every avenue... 1856 02:08:09,565 --> 02:08:13,110 ...and then make his decisions based on that. 1857 02:08:13,318 --> 02:08:17,281 And Stanley was not restricted by time, he refused to be. 1858 02:08:17,489 --> 02:08:21,556 That is a great luxury that only somebody like he could afford... 1859 02:08:21,869 --> 02:08:26,039 ...because of what he'd achieved through his career to be able to say: 1860 02:08:26,352 --> 02:08:30,419 "Do you want to know what's gold with filmmaking? Time is gold." 1861 02:08:30,732 --> 02:08:33,338 Not having to walk away from a scene... 1862 02:08:33,547 --> 02:08:36,571 ...before you feel like you really perfected it. 1863 02:08:38,552 --> 02:08:41,367 I wanted to make fun of you... 1864 02:08:43,140 --> 02:08:45,538 ...to laugh in your face. 1865 02:08:48,770 --> 02:08:53,775 And so I laughed as loud as I could. 1866 02:09:07,748 --> 02:09:10,980 That must have been when you woke me up. 1867 02:09:17,966 --> 02:09:21,720 The other thing Stanley hated doing was ever explaining himself. 1868 02:09:21,929 --> 02:09:24,014 "So, what's the film about, Stanley?" 1869 02:09:24,223 --> 02:09:27,559 He'd look down, look away and not answer. 1870 02:09:31,000 --> 02:09:34,962 The same for a scene, "What do you really want this scene to be?" 1871 02:09:35,171 --> 02:09:36,527 He'd never answer that. 1872 02:09:36,735 --> 02:09:41,323 'Eyes Wide Shut' seems to be a rake's progress story. 1873 02:09:41,636 --> 02:09:44,764 He goes on an adventure that could turn out any way. 1874 02:09:44,972 --> 02:09:48,101 It's an irresponsible adventure for him to embark on. 1875 02:09:48,309 --> 02:09:50,916 It's a fantasy, isn't it? It's a dream film. 1876 02:09:51,124 --> 02:09:55,087 I don't think we're supposed to believe anything that we see. 1877 02:09:55,295 --> 02:09:59,466 One thing that people do have a hard time with in the cinema... 1878 02:09:59,675 --> 02:10:01,239 ...is ambiguity. 1879 02:10:01,552 --> 02:10:05,618 Ambiguity is great, but in the cinema it's almost verboten. 1880 02:10:22,823 --> 02:10:26,785 Perhaps the most extraordinary example of how a piece of music is used... 1881 02:10:26,994 --> 02:10:31,999 ...to drive home something about character and story... 1882 02:10:32,207 --> 02:10:36,899 ...and atmosphere of a film is in 'Eyes Wide Shut'. 1883 02:10:53,061 --> 02:10:56,398 Please, come forward. 1884 02:10:56,607 --> 02:11:00,048 I was in Stalinist... 1885 02:11:00,360 --> 02:11:02,654 ...terroristic Hungary... 1886 02:11:02,863 --> 02:11:06,512 ...where this kind of music was not allowed... 1887 02:11:06,721 --> 02:11:09,536 ...and I just wrote it for myself. 1888 02:11:10,058 --> 02:11:14,750 Stanley Kubrick understood the dramatics of this moment... 1889 02:11:14,958 --> 02:11:19,755 ...and this is what he did in the film. For me, when I composed it... 1890 02:11:19,963 --> 02:11:23,196 ...in the year 50... 1891 02:11:23,404 --> 02:11:25,802 ...it was the most desperate. 1892 02:11:26,011 --> 02:11:30,286 It was a knife in Stalin's heart. 1893 02:11:54,164 --> 02:11:57,814 He had that director's disease... 1894 02:11:58,126 --> 02:12:02,610 ...of really imagining the easy part of it until you get there, you know. 1895 02:12:02,923 --> 02:12:07,719 I'm sure he didn't go into 'Eyes Wide Shut' expecting to shoot for 14 months. 1896 02:12:07,928 --> 02:12:12,620 I thought the same thing, I said, "I'll be out of here in three days." 1897 02:12:12,933 --> 02:12:16,791 The first scene we did in two hours, that night at the house... 1898 02:12:16,999 --> 02:12:19,398 ...where they come in and say hello. 1899 02:12:19,606 --> 02:12:23,151 I said "What are all these things I hear about it taking forever? 1900 02:12:23,360 --> 02:12:28,156 I went there, three hours later I was back at the hotel in London." 1901 02:12:28,365 --> 02:12:31,076 I remember him teasing me, "What are you doing?" 1902 02:12:31,389 --> 02:12:35,143 I said, "I know it's great having you here, Sydney, you're perfect." 1903 02:12:35,455 --> 02:12:37,541 Because we shot it in a day. 1904 02:12:38,792 --> 02:12:41,190 And then, my God. 1905 02:12:41,399 --> 02:12:43,901 Of course, the next day... 1906 02:12:44,110 --> 02:12:45,465 ...Sydney comes out... 1907 02:12:45,674 --> 02:12:48,802 ...and he's dressed. He's got his sleeves up. 1908 02:12:49,011 --> 02:12:53,807 He's in his pants. He knows every line of this massive scene. 1909 02:12:54,224 --> 02:12:57,561 He says, "Let's run lines. Let's go, Cruise. 1910 02:12:57,769 --> 02:12:59,438 Let's go. I got a week. 1911 02:12:59,751 --> 02:13:03,504 We're gonna jam this out and it's gonna be fantastic." 1912 02:13:03,713 --> 02:13:08,301 And we're doing the Steadicam shot of me coming into the room... 1913 02:13:08,509 --> 02:13:11,950 ...and Sydney goes, "How do you want me to do this?" 1914 02:13:12,159 --> 02:13:15,391 Stanley said, "Well, let's try it and see." 1915 02:13:15,600 --> 02:13:18,728 "Well, I can go to the door fast." "Let's see that." 1916 02:13:19,041 --> 02:13:21,022 He says, "Now open the door. 1917 02:13:21,230 --> 02:13:25,401 Maybe that's a little too fast." "Okay, I'll go slower." 1918 02:13:25,714 --> 02:13:28,425 We start doing the scene this way, and-- 1919 02:13:28,738 --> 02:13:31,970 By the third week when we're in the billiard room... 1920 02:13:32,179 --> 02:13:36,871 ...I'm saying, "My God. How? How?" 1921 02:13:37,184 --> 02:13:42,397 Of course, Stanley said, "I didn't think you would be much longer. 1922 02:13:42,606 --> 02:13:44,796 But don't you want to get it right?" 1923 02:13:45,838 --> 02:13:50,009 I tell you, there are a lot of people in our business who are... 1924 02:13:50,218 --> 02:13:54,076 Well, they label themselves as perfectionists. 1925 02:13:54,284 --> 02:13:58,455 That's a kind of euphemism for a pain in the ass, really. 1926 02:13:58,768 --> 02:14:04,086 Stanley was the first real perfectionist that I met. 1927 02:14:04,294 --> 02:14:08,257 I mean, there just wasn't any way... 1928 02:14:08,778 --> 02:14:11,072 ...for him to go one take less. 1929 02:14:11,698 --> 02:14:14,096 He never gave an inch on anything. 1930 02:14:15,243 --> 02:14:19,205 So much was expected of him every time. 1931 02:14:19,414 --> 02:14:22,333 He wasn't allowed just to make a movie. 1932 02:14:22,542 --> 02:14:24,627 It had to be an amazing movie... 1933 02:14:24,940 --> 02:14:28,172 ...because so many were waiting for the next Kubrick film. 1934 02:14:28,381 --> 02:14:33,282 It had to be an event. I think, on his shoulders was a responsibility. 1935 02:14:39,851 --> 02:14:44,856 When 'Eyes Wide Shut' was shown for the first time in New York... 1936 02:14:45,064 --> 02:14:48,401 ...on March 1, 1999... 1937 02:14:48,609 --> 02:14:52,467 ...to Tom and Nicole and the heads of the studio... 1938 02:14:52,676 --> 02:14:55,283 ...the response was very enthusiastic. 1939 02:14:55,596 --> 02:14:57,472 Stanley was very, very happy. 1940 02:14:57,681 --> 02:15:01,539 A great, heavy weight was lifted from his shoulders. 1941 02:15:03,103 --> 02:15:07,274 I think this change of his being... 1942 02:15:07,482 --> 02:15:10,923 ...caused almost a physical change in his body... 1943 02:15:11,132 --> 02:15:15,094 ...because he had lived with this enormous responsibility... 1944 02:15:15,303 --> 02:15:17,910 ...for a very expensive film... 1945 02:15:18,222 --> 02:15:22,080 ...which was long in the shooting for two years. 1946 02:15:22,393 --> 02:15:24,479 And suddenly it was all gone. 1947 02:15:25,834 --> 02:15:28,024 He died a week later. 1948 02:15:33,863 --> 02:15:38,034 The enormous intensity that Stanley had... 1949 02:15:38,242 --> 02:15:42,205 ...with his work, he also applied to his family. 1950 02:15:42,518 --> 02:15:46,376 I always felt very much loved, and so did the children. 1951 02:15:48,148 --> 02:15:51,902 He was consistent... 1952 02:15:52,110 --> 02:15:57,324 ...in that he always said, "Either you care or you don't." 1953 02:15:57,533 --> 02:16:01,808 Well, Stanley was always a man who never wanted to repeat himself. 1954 02:16:03,163 --> 02:16:07,230 He reinvented himself with every single motion picture he directed. 1955 02:16:08,272 --> 02:16:11,609 As a filmmaker, you know, for me... 1956 02:16:11,818 --> 02:16:15,363 ...he was a conceptual illustrator... 1957 02:16:15,571 --> 02:16:17,344 ...of the human condition. 1958 02:16:17,657 --> 02:16:20,993 You say, "I wish he'd made more, but these were enough." 1959 02:16:21,202 --> 02:16:24,226 Because there's so much in each one, you know? 1960 02:16:24,434 --> 02:16:26,207 It would've been nice for him to make more... 1961 02:16:26,416 --> 02:16:28,918 ...but that wasn't his process. 1962 02:16:29,231 --> 02:16:33,193 What he did make was so special, a different movie each time you see it. 1963 02:16:33,402 --> 02:16:34,862 I think, as a director... 1964 02:16:35,279 --> 02:16:38,198 ...I think that what we all admired the most... 1965 02:16:38,615 --> 02:16:40,492 ...was that it was a single vision. 1966 02:16:40,701 --> 02:16:44,559 It was one man's vision, and no one interfered with that vision. 1967 02:16:44,872 --> 02:16:48,104 The complete control he had in the making of his films... 1968 02:16:48,312 --> 02:16:52,692 ...that meant that whatever was in his head, was up there on the screen. 1969 02:16:53,005 --> 02:16:56,550 I know that he struggled a lot to get to that place. 1970 02:16:56,758 --> 02:17:00,408 I think it is something that all of us have benefited from. 1971 02:17:00,721 --> 02:17:04,787 Two major artists were Orson Welles and Stanley... 1972 02:17:04,996 --> 02:17:09,897 ...in terms of being, you know, genuine... 1973 02:17:10,105 --> 02:17:12,086 ...no-holds-barred artists. 1974 02:17:12,399 --> 02:17:15,214 So I would put him in the pantheon... 1975 02:17:15,423 --> 02:17:20,949 ...of the absolute top film directors that the world has seen. 1976 02:17:21,471 --> 02:17:25,433 And he was one of the people that sort of knew... 1977 02:17:27,935 --> 02:17:31,689 ...what was wrong with the world in a weird way... 1978 02:17:32,628 --> 02:17:34,609 ...and was able to turn that into art. 1979 02:17:35,443 --> 02:17:39,614 He just didn't grouse about it... 1980 02:17:40,239 --> 02:17:43,263 ...or bitch or write lousy editorials. 1981 02:17:43,576 --> 02:17:47,226 He converted it into something that was amazing... 1982 02:17:47,434 --> 02:17:51,709 ...and important for us as a species. 1983 02:17:51,918 --> 02:17:55,254 I always thought I'd work with Stanley again. 1984 02:17:55,567 --> 02:17:58,591 We kept in touch over the years and everything... 1985 02:17:58,800 --> 02:18:02,032 ...talked about other projects. 1986 02:18:02,241 --> 02:18:06,828 It's a sad thing that I won't have that great opportunity. 1987 02:18:07,350 --> 02:18:09,122 I miss him. 1988 02:18:11,834 --> 02:18:13,919 How could one not miss him? 1989 02:18:14,440 --> 02:18:17,673 He was a man who was completely unique. 1990 02:18:17,881 --> 02:18:20,384 He's a man I loved and admired... 1991 02:18:20,697 --> 02:18:24,346 ...with all the difficulties he had with him. 1992 02:18:24,555 --> 02:18:28,204 He was not an easy person, but it didn't matter. 1993 02:18:28,413 --> 02:18:31,854 Obviously I worked with him for 30 years for good reasons. 1994 02:18:32,166 --> 02:18:33,730 Stanley is gone. 1995 02:18:34,147 --> 02:18:37,171 There's never gonna be another Kubrick film. 1996 02:18:37,484 --> 02:18:40,821 You'll never have a film that will look like this ever again... 1997 02:18:41,029 --> 02:18:42,489 ...because it is Stanley... 1998 02:18:42,802 --> 02:18:45,930 ...and he pushed everyone to the limit. 1999 02:18:46,139 --> 02:18:51,456 He pushed the film to the limit. He pushed the actors emotionally. 2000 02:18:51,874 --> 02:18:54,585 But because we all wanted to go there with him. 2001 02:18:54,793 --> 02:18:58,755 Part of Stanley's legacy on my life is that... 2002 02:18:58,964 --> 02:19:01,258 ...if you believe in something... 2003 02:19:01,571 --> 02:19:06,054 ...you passionately believe in something, devote yourself to it... 2004 02:19:06,263 --> 02:19:09,287 ...completely, utterly and don't apologize for doing it. 2005 02:19:09,600 --> 02:19:11,789 He felt extremely lucky... 2006 02:19:11,998 --> 02:19:17,316 ...to be in a situation where he could tell stories... 2007 02:19:17,524 --> 02:19:21,799 ...on such a large scale, and millions of dollars involved. 2008 02:19:22,112 --> 02:19:27,430 I think when he was young, he didn't dare hope he would be able to do that. 2009 02:19:27,743 --> 02:19:31,288 I don't think he ever took that for granted. 2010 02:19:31,809 --> 02:19:34,729 People would say, "How are you doing, Stan?" 2011 02:19:34,937 --> 02:19:36,814 He'd say, "I'm still fooling them." 175916

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