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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:51,465 --> 00:00:54,571 JOHNNY CASH: Right now I'd like you to meet a young lady, 2 00:00:54,606 --> 00:00:56,228 a very lovely young lady, 3 00:00:56,263 --> 00:00:58,575 that I really think has what it takes to be around 4 00:00:58,610 --> 00:01:01,233 for a long, long time to come. 5 00:01:01,268 --> 00:01:04,098 I'd like you to meet Ms. Linda Ronstadt. 6 00:01:05,410 --> 00:01:08,309 [You're No Good by Linda Ronstadt] 7 00:01:08,344 --> 00:01:10,484 ♪ Feelin' better ♪ 8 00:01:10,518 --> 00:01:12,624 ♪ Now that we're through ♪ 9 00:01:12,658 --> 00:01:14,488 ♪ Feelin' better ♪ 10 00:01:14,522 --> 00:01:17,146 ♪ 'Cause I'm over you ♪ 11 00:01:17,180 --> 00:01:19,113 ♪ I learned my lesson ♪ 12 00:01:19,148 --> 00:01:21,253 ♪ It left a scar ♪ 13 00:01:21,288 --> 00:01:24,843 ♪ Now I see How you really are ♪ 14 00:01:24,877 --> 00:01:27,190 ♪ You're no good You're no good ♪ 15 00:01:27,225 --> 00:01:31,332 ♪ You're no good Baby, you're no good ♪ 16 00:01:31,815 --> 00:01:33,852 ♪ I'm gonna say it again ♪ 17 00:01:33,886 --> 00:01:36,130 ♪ You're no good You're no good ♪ 18 00:01:36,165 --> 00:01:39,202 ♪ You're no good Baby, you're no good ♪ 19 00:01:39,237 --> 00:01:40,859 Here's a gal who really sings great. 20 00:01:40,893 --> 00:01:43,758 We had her on the show last year and she was sensational. 21 00:01:44,621 --> 00:01:46,796 DICK CAVETT: My first guest occupies a prominent place 22 00:01:46,830 --> 00:01:48,453 in the Top 40 record charts 23 00:01:48,487 --> 00:01:50,179 and she has a big one right now. 24 00:01:50,213 --> 00:01:52,491 HUGH HEFNER: Linda Ronstadt is one of the really great talents 25 00:01:52,526 --> 00:01:53,458 in country music. 26 00:01:53,492 --> 00:01:55,667 Would you welcome please Linda Ronstadt. 27 00:01:55,701 --> 00:01:57,427 Ladies and gentlemen, Ms. Linda Ronstadt. 28 00:01:57,462 --> 00:02:00,948 ♪ Now baby and I'm going my way ♪ 29 00:02:00,982 --> 00:02:02,881 ♪ Forget about you, baby ♪ 30 00:02:02,915 --> 00:02:04,848 ♪ 'Cause I'm leavin' To stay ♪ 31 00:02:04,883 --> 00:02:06,195 ♪ You're no good... ♪ 32 00:02:06,229 --> 00:02:09,681 Linda could literally sing anything. 33 00:02:09,715 --> 00:02:11,200 ♪ No good [No good] ♪ 34 00:02:11,234 --> 00:02:13,892 BONNIE RAITT: I don't think anybody has tried more different styles 35 00:02:13,926 --> 00:02:15,894 and nailed it than Linda has. 36 00:02:16,688 --> 00:02:19,898 There's not that many people that can pull off new wave music 37 00:02:19,932 --> 00:02:22,590 and rock and the most beautiful country ballads. 38 00:02:22,625 --> 00:02:24,627 Her range is huge. 39 00:02:25,731 --> 00:02:28,355 JOHN BOYLAN: She decided what she wanted to do. 40 00:02:29,977 --> 00:02:33,498 More important what she was authentic at doing. 41 00:02:33,705 --> 00:02:35,810 And they always told her no, you can't do this, 42 00:02:35,845 --> 00:02:36,949 you'll ruin your career. 43 00:02:36,984 --> 00:02:38,468 She did it anyway. 44 00:02:38,503 --> 00:02:41,575 ♪ Good ♪ 45 00:02:59,317 --> 00:03:01,698 LINDA RONSTADT: Someone once asked why people sing. 46 00:03:03,873 --> 00:03:06,255 I answered that they sing for any of the same reasons 47 00:03:06,289 --> 00:03:07,601 birds sing. 48 00:03:09,292 --> 00:03:10,742 They sing for a mate. 49 00:03:12,364 --> 00:03:13,917 To claim their territory. 50 00:03:15,643 --> 00:03:17,783 Or simply to give voice to the delight of being alive 51 00:03:17,818 --> 00:03:19,854 in the midst of a beautiful day. 52 00:03:22,305 --> 00:03:24,894 They sing so the subsequent generations won't forget what 53 00:03:24,928 --> 00:03:28,932 the current generations endured or dreamed or delighted in. 54 00:03:33,005 --> 00:03:35,422 There are a lot of really good singers out in the world. 55 00:03:35,870 --> 00:03:38,010 A lot of better singers than I am. 56 00:03:40,496 --> 00:03:42,946 What I did that was different from other singers, 57 00:03:42,981 --> 00:03:45,466 I did a whole lot of different kinds of material. 58 00:03:47,019 --> 00:03:49,367 People would think that I was trying to reinvent myself 59 00:03:49,401 --> 00:03:51,023 but I never invented myself to start with. 60 00:03:51,058 --> 00:03:53,509 I just kind of popped out into the world. 61 00:04:00,688 --> 00:04:02,449 My mom grew up in Michigan. 62 00:04:04,071 --> 00:04:05,866 Her dad was an inventor. 63 00:04:07,005 --> 00:04:09,007 He was the third to Thomas Edison in the number 64 00:04:09,041 --> 00:04:11,630 of useful inventions in the 50s. 65 00:04:11,665 --> 00:04:16,014 He invented the electric stove, the electric toaster. 66 00:04:18,672 --> 00:04:20,743 The thermostat for Westinghouse. 67 00:04:24,022 --> 00:04:26,024 But my grandmother had Parkinson's disease 68 00:04:26,058 --> 00:04:28,889 and he spent all his money trying to find a cure. 69 00:04:30,339 --> 00:04:31,961 And that's what I have now. 70 00:04:35,136 --> 00:04:37,069 My mom was really smart too. 71 00:04:37,415 --> 00:04:39,313 She wanted to study math and physics 72 00:04:39,348 --> 00:04:42,040 and the University of Arizona was really good for that. 73 00:04:42,074 --> 00:04:45,043 She came out to Tucson where she met my father. 74 00:04:46,458 --> 00:04:48,391 My great grandfather Frederick Ronstadt 75 00:04:48,426 --> 00:04:51,083 came from Germany to Mexico in 1839. 76 00:04:51,636 --> 00:04:55,605 My father's father, Frederico, moved to Tucson when he was 14 77 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:57,400 to work as a wagon maker. 78 00:04:57,780 --> 00:04:59,747 But his true passion was music. 79 00:05:04,442 --> 00:05:07,893 So he started the Club Filharmonico Tucsonense. 80 00:05:08,963 --> 00:05:11,380 He was the one who wrote the arrangements 81 00:05:11,414 --> 00:05:13,692 and taught everybody how to play their instruments. 82 00:05:13,934 --> 00:05:15,625 He was like the Music Man. 83 00:05:16,074 --> 00:05:17,627 If you wanted to serenade your sweetheart, 84 00:05:17,662 --> 00:05:20,043 you'd get my grandfather's band to go. 85 00:05:20,423 --> 00:05:22,563 And if you had a wedding or a funeral, 86 00:05:22,598 --> 00:05:23,978 well, they'd show up for that. 87 00:05:27,188 --> 00:05:30,675 First time my mother ever saw my dad he was riding his horse 88 00:05:30,709 --> 00:05:32,918 up the steps of her sorority house. 89 00:05:35,196 --> 00:05:38,027 My dad had a lovely baritone tenor voice 90 00:05:38,061 --> 00:05:40,063 and knew a lot of beautiful Mexican love songs 91 00:05:40,098 --> 00:05:42,134 that were rooted in his childhood. 92 00:05:44,861 --> 00:05:47,588 He serenaded my mother underneath her balcony. 93 00:05:51,558 --> 00:05:53,663 And she fell big for him. 94 00:05:56,873 --> 00:05:59,462 ♪ I'm a rambler ♪ 95 00:06:00,152 --> 00:06:02,465 ♪ I'm a gambler ♪ 96 00:06:03,155 --> 00:06:09,092 ♪ I'm a long way from home ♪ 97 00:06:09,127 --> 00:06:11,129 ♪ If you people ♪ 98 00:06:12,199 --> 00:06:14,753 ♪ Don't like me ♪ 99 00:06:14,788 --> 00:06:20,828 ♪ You can leave me alone ♪ 100 00:06:21,795 --> 00:06:23,555 RONSTADT: I grew up in Tucson 101 00:06:23,590 --> 00:06:26,558 on the last ten acres of my grandfather's cattle ranch. 102 00:06:26,972 --> 00:06:30,459 We were very isolated so if you wanted entertainment 103 00:06:30,493 --> 00:06:32,461 you kind of had to make your own. 104 00:06:34,739 --> 00:06:37,397 There was a lot of music going on in that house. 105 00:06:37,983 --> 00:06:39,675 Some of it came in through the radio. 106 00:06:39,709 --> 00:06:42,056 That was my best friend in the world. 107 00:06:42,678 --> 00:06:44,024 ♪ How's about cooking... ♪ 108 00:06:44,058 --> 00:06:46,716 We had an amazing radio in Tucson 109 00:06:46,751 --> 00:06:48,891 because it was really close to the border. 110 00:06:55,069 --> 00:06:56,761 We could get the Louisiana Hayride. 111 00:06:56,795 --> 00:06:59,626 ♪ Get goin' Louisiana Hayride ♪ 112 00:06:59,660 --> 00:07:02,836 ♪ No use for callin' de roll ♪ 113 00:07:02,870 --> 00:07:04,700 ♪ Can't help... ♪ 114 00:07:04,734 --> 00:07:05,977 RONSTADT: American standards. 115 00:07:06,011 --> 00:07:10,084 ♪ ...loving that man of mine ♪ 116 00:07:10,119 --> 00:07:11,638 RONSTADT: But my grandmother and grandfather 117 00:07:11,672 --> 00:07:13,674 were classical music devotees. 118 00:07:18,990 --> 00:07:21,233 So I would go over to their house on Saturday morning 119 00:07:21,268 --> 00:07:25,134 and listen to a live broadcast from the Metropolitan Opera 120 00:07:25,824 --> 00:07:27,895 and come home and my dad would be playing Mexican songs 121 00:07:27,930 --> 00:07:29,863 on the piano. My mom would be playing 122 00:07:29,897 --> 00:07:31,865 some Gilbert and Sullivan piece. 123 00:07:31,899 --> 00:07:34,868 ♪ True peace of mind ♪ 124 00:07:35,075 --> 00:07:36,663 RONSTADT: My sister loved Hank Williams. 125 00:07:36,697 --> 00:07:38,596 She loved country music. 126 00:07:38,803 --> 00:07:40,770 ♪ I can't help it ♪ 127 00:07:40,805 --> 00:07:44,878 ♪ If I'm still in love With you ♪ 128 00:07:44,912 --> 00:07:47,536 My brother would be singing really high soprano. 129 00:07:49,261 --> 00:07:53,507 He was in a world-class boys choir and he was their soloist. 130 00:07:53,852 --> 00:07:56,717 She wanted to know how to sing so I taught here. 131 00:07:56,752 --> 00:07:58,650 So she learned about vibrato and all that kind of stuff 132 00:07:58,685 --> 00:08:00,721 when she was like five, six years old. 133 00:08:03,344 --> 00:08:06,037 LINDA RONSTADT: We learned so much about singing from each other. 134 00:08:06,796 --> 00:08:09,834 It was completely incorporated into what we did. 135 00:08:09,868 --> 00:08:12,630 We sang at the dinner table, we sang in the car, 136 00:08:12,664 --> 00:08:14,804 we sang with our hands in the dishwater. 137 00:08:15,633 --> 00:08:19,119 I thought Spanish was this magical musical language. 138 00:08:21,155 --> 00:08:23,572 When I was growing up I thought people sang in Spanish 139 00:08:23,606 --> 00:08:25,056 and spoke in English. 140 00:08:25,988 --> 00:08:28,266 If you spoke Spanish on the playground you'd be punished. 141 00:08:28,300 --> 00:08:30,130 You weren't allowed to do it. 142 00:08:33,927 --> 00:08:35,549 My sister and brother and I eventually formed 143 00:08:35,584 --> 00:08:36,861 a little group. We called ourselves 144 00:08:36,895 --> 00:08:38,966 The New Union Ramblers. 145 00:08:39,001 --> 00:08:41,106 We thought that sounded folky. 146 00:08:42,107 --> 00:08:45,904 Bobby Kimmel was a guitar player that I met in Tucson. 147 00:08:45,939 --> 00:08:48,148 He wrote songs about his own life. 148 00:08:48,804 --> 00:08:51,254 I remember them being one of the best vocal groups 149 00:08:51,289 --> 00:08:52,842 I had ever heard. 150 00:08:56,121 --> 00:08:58,227 RONSTADT: Bobby joined our family group 151 00:08:58,261 --> 00:09:01,575 and then he and I used to play as a duet sometimes. 152 00:09:03,922 --> 00:09:06,200 We played little clubs in Tucson but there wasn't very much 153 00:09:06,235 --> 00:09:08,202 opportunity for us there. 154 00:09:10,791 --> 00:09:14,312 At some point reality stepped in and my sister had three kids. 155 00:09:15,658 --> 00:09:18,247 And then my brother went to work for the police department. 156 00:09:20,939 --> 00:09:23,321 Bobby wanted to earn some money playing music. 157 00:09:24,322 --> 00:09:26,358 So he went off to California. 158 00:09:27,843 --> 00:09:29,845 And I was the last man standing. 159 00:09:29,879 --> 00:09:31,329 [California Dreaming by the Mamas and the Papas] 160 00:09:31,363 --> 00:09:35,229 ♪ All the leaves are brown [All the leaves are brown] ♪ 161 00:09:35,678 --> 00:09:39,164 KIMMEL: I went to LA with the intention of forming a band. 162 00:09:40,752 --> 00:09:44,894 When I saw the quality of the singers that were out there 163 00:09:44,929 --> 00:09:47,379 I started writing to Linda saying 164 00:09:47,414 --> 00:09:52,384 if you come out we could form a band and get a record deal. 165 00:09:54,214 --> 00:09:56,388 RONSTADT: I knew they had more clubs to play in Los Angeles. 166 00:09:56,423 --> 00:09:57,769 ♪ California dreaming [California dreaming] ♪ 167 00:10:00,634 --> 00:10:02,947 PETE RONSTADT: I was telling her this is kind of an iffy thing. 168 00:10:02,981 --> 00:10:04,742 You might starve to death or you might find yourself 169 00:10:04,776 --> 00:10:07,020 washing dishes and waiting tables 170 00:10:07,054 --> 00:10:08,815 before you ever get discovered. 171 00:10:08,849 --> 00:10:10,955 She says I'm willing to take the chance. 172 00:10:12,473 --> 00:10:14,337 LINDA RONSTADT: I was 18 years old. 173 00:10:15,718 --> 00:10:18,100 We had a house on the beach for 80 bucks a month 174 00:10:18,134 --> 00:10:19,411 in Santa Monica. 175 00:10:19,791 --> 00:10:21,759 We split the rent three ways. 176 00:10:21,793 --> 00:10:24,900 It was just great. It was right on the beach. 177 00:10:28,282 --> 00:10:31,320 KIMMEL: Once she got there we got to work right away 178 00:10:31,354 --> 00:10:33,667 and we used to practice every day. 179 00:10:37,395 --> 00:10:39,431 RONSTADT: Bobby introduced me to a really good guitar player 180 00:10:39,466 --> 00:10:41,951 named Kenny Edwards and we formed a little band 181 00:10:41,986 --> 00:10:44,057 and we called ourselves The Stone Ponies. 182 00:10:44,091 --> 00:10:45,990 ♪ Look out your window ♪ 183 00:10:46,024 --> 00:10:49,027 ♪ The rain is turning Into snow ♪ 184 00:10:49,925 --> 00:10:51,823 We started playing little beatnik dives 185 00:10:51,858 --> 00:10:54,688 and strange pizza parlors, wherever we could get a job. 186 00:10:54,930 --> 00:10:56,828 ♪ Oh how you love me... ♪ 187 00:10:56,863 --> 00:11:00,245 There was the trip where I heard this band called The Byrds. 188 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:01,937 They had a light show 189 00:11:01,971 --> 00:11:04,733 and a lot of acid tripping kind of stuff going on. 190 00:11:06,389 --> 00:11:08,288 The Whiskey A Go Go was very rock and roll. 191 00:11:08,322 --> 00:11:10,048 I heard the Doors there and I thought 192 00:11:10,083 --> 00:11:12,982 oh they're be a really hit band if they get rid of their singer. 193 00:11:13,534 --> 00:11:16,296 ♪ Go, love Open up the door... ♪ 194 00:11:17,193 --> 00:11:18,885 RONSTADT: There was the Ash Grove. 195 00:11:18,919 --> 00:11:21,439 That was where you go for authentic folk music. 196 00:11:21,888 --> 00:11:23,406 It's where I first heard Ry Cooder. 197 00:11:23,441 --> 00:11:29,136 ♪ Have you seen that vigilante man? ♪ 198 00:11:31,207 --> 00:11:33,451 Ry Cooder was then and now the most amazing guitar player 199 00:11:33,485 --> 00:11:35,073 I've ever heard. 200 00:11:35,108 --> 00:11:37,006 I knew that had good musicians in Los Angeles 201 00:11:37,041 --> 00:11:38,767 but this guy is really something. 202 00:11:38,801 --> 00:11:40,078 I thought I'm staying here. 203 00:11:40,113 --> 00:11:41,977 I'm not going back to Tucson to live. 204 00:11:42,011 --> 00:11:44,738 ♪ All over the land ♪ 205 00:11:49,847 --> 00:11:52,781 RY COODER: She came to Los Angeles at a time 206 00:11:52,815 --> 00:11:56,094 when the LA rock and roll scene was in gear and was going. 207 00:11:56,129 --> 00:11:58,821 Because, see, after The Byrds did their thing 208 00:11:58,856 --> 00:12:00,202 with Mr. Tambourine Man, 209 00:12:00,236 --> 00:12:02,307 then the whole damn thing broke loose 210 00:12:02,342 --> 00:12:04,827 and all the record companies when scurrying around 211 00:12:04,862 --> 00:12:08,831 like headless chickens trying to figure out what to do. 212 00:12:08,866 --> 00:12:10,764 Who can sing folk rock 213 00:12:10,799 --> 00:12:14,803 and how can we define what this thing is going to be? 214 00:12:15,804 --> 00:12:19,842 ♪ Hey Mr. Tambourine Man ♪ 215 00:12:19,877 --> 00:12:21,775 ♪ Play a song for me ♪ 216 00:12:21,810 --> 00:12:23,225 DON HENLEY: There was a lot of cross pollination 217 00:12:23,259 --> 00:12:25,848 that started happening in the mid-60s, you know, 218 00:12:25,883 --> 00:12:28,920 country music and folk music and rock music started 219 00:12:28,955 --> 00:12:32,890 commingling and blending and you would get all these hybrids. 220 00:12:35,030 --> 00:12:38,205 TV ANCHOR: The Troubadour, just a few blocks from Hollywood Boulevard, 221 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,967 is known as an avant garde cafe. 222 00:12:41,001 --> 00:12:44,280 It's the favorite of Hollywood's young and young at heart. 223 00:12:45,212 --> 00:12:47,283 RONSTADT: The Troubadour was where everybody went to hang out 224 00:12:47,318 --> 00:12:48,560 and to be noticed. 225 00:12:48,595 --> 00:12:50,908 You wanted to make yourself known to the record community at 226 00:12:50,942 --> 00:12:54,359 large, you go to the Troubadour, play an open mic night. 227 00:12:55,326 --> 00:12:57,190 JD SOUTHER: I can't even name all the great songwriters 228 00:12:57,224 --> 00:12:58,467 that came through there. 229 00:12:58,501 --> 00:13:01,228 I mean, Laura Nyro, Neil Young, 230 00:13:01,263 --> 00:13:03,230 Joni Mitchell, Tim Hardin, 231 00:13:03,265 --> 00:13:06,820 Kris Kristofferson, Rick Nelson, Elton John, 232 00:13:06,855 --> 00:13:08,270 Jackson Browne. 233 00:13:08,304 --> 00:13:10,444 It was just week after week of amazing, 234 00:13:10,479 --> 00:13:12,446 game-changing songwriters. 235 00:13:12,895 --> 00:13:15,553 ♪ Some of them were dreamers ♪ 236 00:13:17,244 --> 00:13:20,213 ♪ Some of them were fools ♪ 237 00:13:20,972 --> 00:13:23,319 ♪ Who were making plans ♪ 238 00:13:23,354 --> 00:13:26,288 ♪ And thinking of the future ♪ 239 00:13:26,529 --> 00:13:28,877 I mean, you tried to get a gig at the Troubadour. 240 00:13:28,911 --> 00:13:30,879 You wanted to play the Troubadour. 241 00:13:30,913 --> 00:13:33,882 All kinds of industry people hung around in the bar. 242 00:13:34,192 --> 00:13:35,884 ROBERT HILBURN: The Troubadour is important because 243 00:13:35,918 --> 00:13:37,368 that's where you can get seen. 244 00:13:37,402 --> 00:13:39,025 It was the place to play. 245 00:13:39,059 --> 00:13:40,543 Like the minor leagues in baseball. 246 00:13:40,578 --> 00:13:43,374 This was your chance, this was your great chance. 247 00:13:44,444 --> 00:13:46,895 DAVID GEFFEN: The Troubadour was a bustling place. 248 00:13:46,929 --> 00:13:50,208 They had a hootenanny night where new artists would come 249 00:13:50,243 --> 00:13:53,142 and sing a few songs and I used to go to every hootenanny night 250 00:13:53,177 --> 00:13:55,213 to see if there was anybody really talented. 251 00:13:55,420 --> 00:13:58,009 BROWNE: The Hoot, the Monday night open mic Hootenanny 252 00:13:58,044 --> 00:13:59,977 where you'd wait and get on the list 253 00:14:00,011 --> 00:14:01,633 and you go up there and sing your new song. 254 00:14:17,684 --> 00:14:18,927 SOUTHER: You got two or three songs. 255 00:14:18,961 --> 00:14:21,930 If you were no good you probably didn't last the second song 256 00:14:21,964 --> 00:14:24,933 because were, "Hey, get off!" 257 00:14:24,967 --> 00:14:27,107 And maybe not even the first song. 258 00:14:28,246 --> 00:14:34,908 ♪ Oh, you and I, travel to the Beat of a different drum... ♪ 259 00:14:34,943 --> 00:14:36,392 RONSTADT: I heard a song called Different Drum 260 00:14:36,427 --> 00:14:38,705 by this bluegrass group called The Greenbriar Boys. 261 00:14:38,739 --> 00:14:40,983 ♪ Every time you make... ♪ 262 00:14:41,018 --> 00:14:42,536 It was written by Mike Nesmith 263 00:14:42,571 --> 00:14:44,607 who was eventually going to join the Monkees. 264 00:14:44,642 --> 00:14:49,992 ♪ You cry and moan And say it will work out ♪ 265 00:14:50,337 --> 00:14:54,134 ♪ But honey child I've got my doubts ♪ 266 00:14:54,169 --> 00:14:57,897 ♪ You can't see the forest For the trees ♪ 267 00:14:59,415 --> 00:15:03,557 ♪ So don't get me wrong It's not that I knock it ♪ 268 00:15:03,592 --> 00:15:06,975 ♪ it's just that I am not In the market ♪ 269 00:15:07,009 --> 00:15:13,326 ♪ For a boy who wants To love only me ♪ 270 00:15:13,567 --> 00:15:15,707 RONSTADT: We got an immediate response from managers 271 00:15:15,742 --> 00:15:18,400 and people who were interested in our career. 272 00:15:19,194 --> 00:15:22,335 KIMMEL: Herb Cohen was managing Frank Zappa. 273 00:15:22,542 --> 00:15:25,407 We had head that he had been a soldier of fortune. 274 00:15:25,441 --> 00:15:27,443 He was have killed somebody. 275 00:15:27,478 --> 00:15:29,204 He was a badass. 276 00:15:29,238 --> 00:15:32,552 But he was established and he immediately said, 277 00:15:32,586 --> 00:15:34,588 "I can get you a record deal." 278 00:15:34,623 --> 00:15:40,008 ♪ I believe And I see no sense... ♪ 279 00:15:40,042 --> 00:15:43,563 We recorded a few things, just the tree of us. 280 00:15:43,597 --> 00:15:47,118 Then he took those to the people in power 281 00:15:47,153 --> 00:15:49,949 and said, "I want to record these guys." 282 00:15:51,502 --> 00:15:53,124 Capitol said okay. 283 00:15:53,159 --> 00:15:55,782 We signed papers and we were off and running. 284 00:15:55,816 --> 00:15:59,303 ♪ Live without me ♪ 285 00:16:01,305 --> 00:16:02,720 RONSTADT: So we recorded it with a mandolin 286 00:16:02,754 --> 00:16:05,205 and a couple of acoustic guitars 287 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,138 and the record company didn't like it. 288 00:16:07,173 --> 00:16:10,210 And so they said well come back, we want to recut the song. 289 00:16:10,624 --> 00:16:14,111 KIMMEL: Certainly everything changed in the studio. 290 00:16:14,387 --> 00:16:16,009 RONSTADT: They had a bunch of strings in there 291 00:16:16,044 --> 00:16:18,115 and it was an orchestra session. I went wait a minute, 292 00:16:18,149 --> 00:16:19,633 this isn't the way I thought about the song. 293 00:16:19,668 --> 00:16:22,843 [Different Drum by the Stone Poneys] 294 00:16:22,878 --> 00:16:24,604 I said I don't want to put it on the record because 295 00:16:24,638 --> 00:16:26,813 that wasn't the way I'd originally envisioned it. 296 00:16:26,847 --> 00:16:32,232 ♪ You and I count to the beat Of a different drum ♪ 297 00:16:32,267 --> 00:16:36,547 ♪ Oh can't you tell By the way I run ♪ 298 00:16:36,581 --> 00:16:39,688 ♪ Every time You make eyes at me ♪ 299 00:16:39,722 --> 00:16:41,276 RONSTADT: It was a good thing they didn't listen to me 300 00:16:41,310 --> 00:16:43,312 because it was a huge hit. 301 00:16:43,347 --> 00:16:45,521 PETE RONSTADT: I'm driving down the road, you know, in my car 302 00:16:45,556 --> 00:16:48,352 listening to KTKT radio and all of a sudden 303 00:16:48,386 --> 00:16:50,388 she's singing Different Drum. 304 00:16:50,423 --> 00:16:52,218 I said wait a minute! 305 00:16:54,082 --> 00:16:56,118 BONNIE RAITT: I loved her voice from the first time I heard her. 306 00:16:56,153 --> 00:16:57,809 I was a freshman in college. 307 00:16:57,844 --> 00:16:59,777 The Stone Poneys, Different Drum. 308 00:16:59,811 --> 00:17:01,227 Yeah, baby! 309 00:17:01,261 --> 00:17:03,125 It was just like wow! 310 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:07,336 It was just like to pull back the covering 311 00:17:07,371 --> 00:17:10,684 of a fully developed vocal stylist. 312 00:17:12,859 --> 00:17:17,553 ♪ Yes and I ain't sayin' You ain't pretty ♪ 313 00:17:17,588 --> 00:17:21,385 ♪ All I'm sayin' I'm not ready ♪ 314 00:17:21,419 --> 00:17:25,527 HILBURN: Most of the time as a critic you're sitting there saying, 315 00:17:25,561 --> 00:17:28,564 "We don't give the artist a plus for this and a minus for this. 316 00:17:28,599 --> 00:17:31,119 This is kind of good, that's not so good." 317 00:17:31,153 --> 00:17:33,397 Bang! It was like a home run. 318 00:17:33,431 --> 00:17:35,261 ♪ Goodbye! ♪ 319 00:17:35,295 --> 00:17:36,710 ♪ I believe in a... ♪ 320 00:17:36,745 --> 00:17:39,299 KIMMEL: We were out on this tour 321 00:17:39,334 --> 00:17:43,579 and Herby Cohen comes to my hotel room and says, 322 00:17:43,614 --> 00:17:47,445 "I need to tell you that when we get back to LA, 323 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,447 the band is breaking up." 324 00:17:49,482 --> 00:17:52,381 Everybody said, "I don't know about you two guys 325 00:17:52,416 --> 00:17:54,521 but we want the girl singer." 326 00:17:55,867 --> 00:17:59,147 RONSTADT: The record company wanted to develop me as a solo artist. 327 00:17:59,699 --> 00:18:03,358 Kenny decided to go off to India and find a guru and meditate. 328 00:18:03,392 --> 00:18:06,809 And Bobby started a folk club in LA called McCabe's. 329 00:18:07,465 --> 00:18:09,812 And I was left with what in the world to sing. 330 00:18:09,847 --> 00:18:11,297 I was by myself. 331 00:18:11,331 --> 00:18:13,644 A harmony singer with no material. 332 00:18:14,196 --> 00:18:16,923 HILBURN: The remarkable thing about the Stone Poney days was 333 00:18:16,957 --> 00:18:19,857 she had the nerve to leave a male band 334 00:18:19,891 --> 00:18:22,825 after it had already had a hit and go on her own. 335 00:18:22,860 --> 00:18:24,862 Will you welcome please Ms. Linda Ronstadt? 336 00:18:26,829 --> 00:18:29,418 Ronstadt, Ronstadt. 337 00:18:29,453 --> 00:18:32,283 Did anyone ever suggest that that isn't the most musical name 338 00:18:32,318 --> 00:18:33,457 in the world. 339 00:18:33,491 --> 00:18:36,908 That maybe you should change it to Linda Marlow or... 340 00:18:36,943 --> 00:18:37,944 Is there a Linda Marlow? 341 00:18:37,978 --> 00:18:41,361 And once they learn how to pronounce my name, 342 00:18:41,396 --> 00:18:43,674 that leads to free-for-all kinds of variations. 343 00:18:43,708 --> 00:18:46,435 Glenn Campbell once called me Linda Bedstead. 344 00:18:46,470 --> 00:18:48,472 You know, I remember you when you were nothing 345 00:18:48,506 --> 00:18:50,232 but a little Stone Poney. 346 00:18:50,267 --> 00:18:51,475 Oh yeah? 347 00:18:51,509 --> 00:18:52,959 I didn't have any idea what that means. 348 00:18:52,993 --> 00:18:56,342 I know that you were part of a group, right? 349 00:18:56,376 --> 00:18:58,171 Let's see, how do I explain this on television 350 00:18:58,206 --> 00:18:59,448 and not get yelled at. 351 00:18:59,483 --> 00:19:00,898 CAVETT: Oh, then maybe you don't. 352 00:19:02,279 --> 00:19:03,866 - I think I don't. - Oh, yeah? 353 00:19:03,901 --> 00:19:05,730 Oh, is it an inside meaning? 354 00:19:05,765 --> 00:19:08,526 Yeah, it has a lot of different... 355 00:19:08,561 --> 00:19:11,253 ♪ Love will abide ♪ 356 00:19:12,979 --> 00:19:16,293 ♪ Take things in stride ♪ 357 00:19:18,916 --> 00:19:22,782 ♪ Sounds like good advice ♪ 358 00:19:22,816 --> 00:19:27,235 ♪ But there's no one At my side ♪ 359 00:19:27,269 --> 00:19:32,343 ♪ And time washes clean ♪ 360 00:19:34,518 --> 00:19:37,590 ♪ Love's wounds unseen ♪ 361 00:19:40,489 --> 00:19:44,217 ♪ That's what someone Told me ♪ 362 00:19:44,252 --> 00:19:48,463 ♪ But I don't know What it means ♪ 363 00:19:48,497 --> 00:19:51,707 ♪ 'Cause I've ♪ 364 00:19:51,742 --> 00:19:55,504 ♪ Done everything I know ♪ 365 00:19:55,539 --> 00:19:59,232 ♪ To try to make you mine ♪ 366 00:19:59,922 --> 00:20:04,755 ♪ And I think it's gonna Hurt me ♪ 367 00:20:05,376 --> 00:20:10,001 ♪ For a long, long time ♪ 368 00:20:10,554 --> 00:20:15,766 ♪ But I've done Everything I know ♪ 369 00:20:16,491 --> 00:20:20,909 ♪ To try to make you mine ♪ 370 00:20:21,530 --> 00:20:25,810 ♪ Think I'm gonna Love you ♪ 371 00:20:26,501 --> 00:20:31,540 ♪ For a long, long time ♪ 372 00:20:32,541 --> 00:20:34,060 I met her in the Troubadour. 373 00:20:34,094 --> 00:20:36,925 She had this hit called Long, Long Time. 374 00:20:39,514 --> 00:20:41,032 Apparently she knew who I was 375 00:20:41,067 --> 00:20:43,897 based on a record I'd made with Ricky Nelson. 376 00:20:46,935 --> 00:20:50,628 She said I like that band you put together for Rick Nelson. 377 00:20:50,663 --> 00:20:52,389 Could you do that for me? 378 00:20:52,734 --> 00:20:55,323 ♪ She's got everything She needs ♪ 379 00:20:55,357 --> 00:20:56,876 ♪ She's an artist ♪ 380 00:20:56,910 --> 00:20:59,637 ♪ She don't look back ♪ 381 00:21:00,500 --> 00:21:02,951 Herby Cohen was the manager when I met her. 382 00:21:02,985 --> 00:21:04,918 He gave me these tickets to Hawaii 383 00:21:04,953 --> 00:21:07,369 for the Capitol Records convention. 384 00:21:07,404 --> 00:21:09,751 Linda and I show up at San Francisco Airport 385 00:21:09,785 --> 00:21:13,755 to fly to Honolulu and lo and behold there was the FBI 386 00:21:13,789 --> 00:21:16,827 to arrest us for receiving stolen property. 387 00:21:16,861 --> 00:21:19,830 Turns out Herby had bought the tickets in the lobby 388 00:21:19,864 --> 00:21:21,935 of the building from some guy 389 00:21:21,970 --> 00:21:24,835 probably for 25 cents on the dollar 390 00:21:24,869 --> 00:21:26,906 and they were hotter than a two-dollar pistol. 391 00:21:26,940 --> 00:21:30,427 So we spent the day in jail. 392 00:21:30,634 --> 00:21:32,774 [Silver Threads And Golden Needles by Ronstadt] 393 00:21:32,808 --> 00:21:35,777 She fired Herbie and asked me to fill in. 394 00:21:35,811 --> 00:21:40,091 ♪ I don't want Your lonely mansion ♪ 395 00:21:40,126 --> 00:21:41,921 RONSTADT: I was walking through the Troubadour one night 396 00:21:41,955 --> 00:21:43,785 on my way to the bathroom. 397 00:21:45,373 --> 00:21:48,376 This band Shiloh got up and did my exact version 398 00:21:48,410 --> 00:21:50,136 of Silver Threads and Golden Needles. 399 00:21:50,170 --> 00:21:53,657 ♪ Silver Threads And Golden Needles ♪ 400 00:21:53,691 --> 00:21:54,865 I just went, "What?" 401 00:21:54,899 --> 00:21:56,970 Does, you know, that solo, I thought, God! 402 00:21:57,005 --> 00:21:59,007 I was appalled that anyone would actually sit down 403 00:21:59,041 --> 00:22:02,942 with one of my records and learn the solo off it 404 00:22:02,976 --> 00:22:05,185 like a Led Zeppelin record. 405 00:22:05,220 --> 00:22:07,843 And I heard the drummer and I thought he was really good. 406 00:22:07,878 --> 00:22:10,398 HILBURN: The drummer was a guy named Don Henley. 407 00:22:10,777 --> 00:22:14,056 HENLEY: Linda's first solo album came out in '69 408 00:22:14,091 --> 00:22:17,577 and I moved to LA in June of 1970. 409 00:22:18,095 --> 00:22:20,718 So my timing was pretty good. 410 00:22:20,994 --> 00:22:23,065 HILBURN: She'd had a bunch of dates back East 411 00:22:23,100 --> 00:22:25,413 and we needed to put the band together quickly. 412 00:22:25,447 --> 00:22:28,347 So I hired him for $250 a week. 413 00:22:28,381 --> 00:22:29,348 [Rescue me by Linda Ronstadt] 414 00:22:35,561 --> 00:22:37,390 ♪ Rescue me ♪ 415 00:22:37,425 --> 00:22:39,012 ♪ I want you in my arms ♪ 416 00:22:39,047 --> 00:22:40,911 ♪ Rescue me ♪ 417 00:22:40,945 --> 00:22:42,775 ♪ I need your tender charm ♪ 418 00:22:42,809 --> 00:22:44,639 ♪ 'Cause I'm lonely ♪ 419 00:22:44,673 --> 00:22:46,779 HENLEY: I knew who she was because I had her album. 420 00:22:47,193 --> 00:22:49,644 I listened to that album a hundred times. 421 00:22:51,128 --> 00:22:54,649 She could seem vulnerable and very feminine 422 00:22:54,683 --> 00:22:58,722 but when she opened her mouth to sing everything got different. 423 00:22:58,756 --> 00:23:01,000 It was just incredible. 424 00:23:02,001 --> 00:23:05,211 You knew that there was a very solid core 425 00:23:05,245 --> 00:23:07,213 and a very determined woman. 426 00:23:17,948 --> 00:23:19,881 SOUTHER: Just saw her walking past me in the Troubadour 427 00:23:19,915 --> 00:23:20,985 and she looked so cute. 428 00:23:21,020 --> 00:23:22,470 I just grabbed her by the hand 429 00:23:22,504 --> 00:23:24,403 and I said I think you should cook me dinner. 430 00:23:25,231 --> 00:23:27,716 And she said okay and gave me her phone number. 431 00:23:28,061 --> 00:23:30,236 So I called her a couple days 432 00:23:30,270 --> 00:23:31,927 and I said, "Well, you gonna cook me dinner?" 433 00:23:31,962 --> 00:23:33,860 She goes, "Sure, come on over." I came on over 434 00:23:33,895 --> 00:23:36,553 and she made me a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. 435 00:23:37,485 --> 00:23:39,521 And I fell in love with her. 436 00:23:39,556 --> 00:23:41,558 Took her home and the next day I said, 437 00:23:41,592 --> 00:23:42,904 "Listen, let's go get your stuff. 438 00:23:42,938 --> 00:23:44,250 You can live here with me." 439 00:23:44,284 --> 00:23:47,598 ♪ I got a feeling called The blues, oh Lord ♪ 440 00:23:47,633 --> 00:23:50,256 ♪ Since my baby Said goodbye ♪ 441 00:23:50,290 --> 00:23:52,914 GEFFEN: John David Souther and Linda Ronstadt. 442 00:23:52,948 --> 00:23:54,156 They were a hot couple. 443 00:23:54,191 --> 00:23:57,090 ♪ All I do is sit and cry Oh Lord ♪ 444 00:23:57,125 --> 00:24:00,231 ♪ That last long day he said goodbye ♪ 445 00:24:00,266 --> 00:24:03,614 JD had had a musical duo with a guy named Glenn Frey. 446 00:24:06,755 --> 00:24:09,862 SOUTHER: He was by best friend and first songwriting partner. 447 00:24:11,657 --> 00:24:14,245 We really did nothing but just listen to music and play guitars 448 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,594 and try to write songs and then go to the Troubadour. 449 00:24:19,285 --> 00:24:21,667 RONSTADT: Glenn Frey played pretty good guitar. 450 00:24:21,977 --> 00:24:23,496 So I went and talked to Glenn and said, 451 00:24:23,531 --> 00:24:25,256 "Do you want to do this tour with me?" 452 00:24:25,291 --> 00:24:27,120 He said it would be really cool. 453 00:24:27,155 --> 00:24:29,537 He'd never been on the road before. 454 00:24:30,572 --> 00:24:33,195 HENLEY: Glenn Frey and I shared the $12 hotel room 455 00:24:33,230 --> 00:24:35,094 with two twin beds in it. 456 00:24:35,335 --> 00:24:37,027 It was a very modest tour. 457 00:24:37,061 --> 00:24:39,029 I mean, I remember being in station wagons. 458 00:24:41,790 --> 00:24:44,172 RONSTADT: Rooming together, Don and Glenn each discovered 459 00:24:44,206 --> 00:24:46,761 that the other was a good singer and songwriter. 460 00:24:48,176 --> 00:24:51,938 HILBURN: And that's when they decided to get together and form a band. 461 00:24:52,318 --> 00:24:54,596 That band became the Eagles. 462 00:24:57,323 --> 00:24:58,807 They wished us well. 463 00:24:58,842 --> 00:25:02,190 John was very supportive, Linda was supportive 464 00:25:02,224 --> 00:25:04,848 and they basically said just go for it. 465 00:25:04,882 --> 00:25:07,782 [Desperado by The Eagles] 466 00:25:07,816 --> 00:25:09,991 We didn't have much success with Desperado. 467 00:25:10,025 --> 00:25:13,063 The record company didn't know what to do with it. 468 00:25:13,097 --> 00:25:15,514 And then Linda made it into a classic. 469 00:25:16,066 --> 00:25:19,552 ♪ Desperado ♪ 470 00:25:20,104 --> 00:25:24,971 ♪ Why don't you come To your senses ♪ 471 00:25:25,006 --> 00:25:29,320 ♪ Come down From your fences ♪ 472 00:25:29,355 --> 00:25:33,117 ♪ And open the gate ♪ 473 00:25:33,152 --> 00:25:35,534 ♪ It may be raining ♪ 474 00:25:36,742 --> 00:25:40,884 ♪ But there's a rainbow Above you ♪ 475 00:25:41,263 --> 00:25:45,682 ♪ You better let somebody Love you ♪ 476 00:25:46,027 --> 00:25:49,237 ♪ [Let somebody love you] ♪ 477 00:25:49,962 --> 00:25:55,001 ♪ Let somebody love you ♪ 478 00:25:56,416 --> 00:26:01,076 ♪ Before it is too ♪ 479 00:26:02,871 --> 00:26:06,185 ♪ Late ♪ 480 00:26:21,269 --> 00:26:24,652 [Heart of Gold by Neil Young] 481 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,040 HILBURN: I knew the Neil Young tour was coming 482 00:26:34,075 --> 00:26:36,215 and I thought this'll be perfect for Linda 483 00:26:36,249 --> 00:26:40,115 because she had sung backup on his big hit "Heart of Gold." 484 00:26:40,150 --> 00:26:43,084 So I called Neil's manager and I said, 485 00:26:43,118 --> 00:26:45,776 "Listen, Linda's the right opening act for this. 486 00:26:45,811 --> 00:26:47,122 You've got to help me out." 487 00:26:47,157 --> 00:26:49,366 And they said, "Well, Neil's gonna go out alone." 488 00:26:50,298 --> 00:26:52,783 ♪ I want to live ♪ 489 00:26:53,094 --> 00:26:55,648 ♪ I want to give ♪ 490 00:26:55,683 --> 00:26:59,031 HILBURN: Lo and behold like a week later he called me and he said, 491 00:26:59,065 --> 00:27:01,067 "Neil's done a few dates in Canada 492 00:27:01,102 --> 00:27:03,035 and it's getting him too tired. 493 00:27:03,069 --> 00:27:05,347 He now wants an opening act and you're it. 494 00:27:05,382 --> 00:27:07,867 ♪ I never give... ♪ 495 00:27:09,006 --> 00:27:11,008 Linda was quite reluctant at the time. 496 00:27:11,043 --> 00:27:13,977 She was so worried about the idea of playing a huge 497 00:27:14,011 --> 00:27:17,118 hockey arena tour at that point in her career. 498 00:27:17,152 --> 00:27:20,362 But we persuaded her that this would be a good thing. 499 00:27:23,814 --> 00:27:25,091 RONSTADT: Thank you! 500 00:27:25,954 --> 00:27:29,268 HILBURN: You would occasionally get somebody: "We want Neil!" 501 00:27:29,302 --> 00:27:33,444 But by the time the tour got going, she was holding her own. 502 00:27:33,790 --> 00:27:36,965 ♪ I've been cheated ♪ 503 00:27:37,379 --> 00:27:40,693 ♪ Been mistreated ♪ 504 00:27:41,142 --> 00:27:46,319 ♪ When will I be loved? ♪ 505 00:27:48,494 --> 00:27:51,670 ♪ I've been put down ♪ 506 00:27:52,153 --> 00:27:55,294 ♪ I've been pushed 'round ♪ 507 00:27:55,881 --> 00:28:00,989 ♪ When will I be loved? ♪ 508 00:28:03,336 --> 00:28:06,167 ♪ When I find a new man ♪ 509 00:28:06,926 --> 00:28:09,446 ♪ That I want for mine ♪ 510 00:28:10,447 --> 00:28:13,933 ♪ Always breaks my heart In two ♪ 511 00:28:13,968 --> 00:28:18,938 ♪ It happens every time ♪ 512 00:28:20,043 --> 00:28:21,872 ♪ I've been... ♪ 513 00:28:21,907 --> 00:28:25,151 CAMERON CROWE: Here's Linda who I'd never seen live before, 514 00:28:25,186 --> 00:28:28,741 big stage, sold out, huge place. 515 00:28:28,948 --> 00:28:33,194 She comes out there and starts singing and that voice filled 516 00:28:33,228 --> 00:28:36,784 this arena where I had seen concerts for a long time. 517 00:28:36,818 --> 00:28:39,441 Nobody filled this arena with a voice like Linda Ronstadt. 518 00:28:39,476 --> 00:28:41,789 And she just killed it. 519 00:28:41,823 --> 00:28:46,138 She slaughtered this crowd who didn't come to see her 520 00:28:46,172 --> 00:28:48,243 but they sure left knowing who she was. 521 00:28:50,901 --> 00:28:53,766 HILBURN: We did 78 dates in 90 days. 522 00:28:54,042 --> 00:28:57,459 We played before 18,000 to 20,000 people every night. 523 00:29:01,015 --> 00:29:03,845 RONSTADT: We got to Houston and there was this new girl singer. 524 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,157 Her name's Emmylou. 525 00:29:06,572 --> 00:29:10,093 EMMYLOU HARRIS: It was 1973 during the one tour I did with Gram. 526 00:29:10,576 --> 00:29:14,476 ♪ Call happy calling Children are calling ♪ 527 00:29:14,511 --> 00:29:18,170 ♪ In line to ride On the merry-go-round ♪ 528 00:29:18,204 --> 00:29:19,965 RONSTADT: Emmy started singing and three notes 529 00:29:19,999 --> 00:29:21,932 the entire place was dead quiet. 530 00:29:21,967 --> 00:29:24,417 It was like they had started mass or something. 531 00:29:25,487 --> 00:29:27,558 And she was beautiful, this girl with the long hair 532 00:29:27,593 --> 00:29:29,353 and big brown eyes and I thought 533 00:29:29,388 --> 00:29:31,977 she's doing exactly what I'm doing. 534 00:29:32,011 --> 00:29:33,426 She's doing it better. 535 00:29:33,461 --> 00:29:35,981 ♪ Do not worry How it's done... ♪ 536 00:29:36,015 --> 00:29:38,466 And for a minute I thought well I can get jealous 537 00:29:38,500 --> 00:29:40,882 and then I won't be able to enjoy her singing. 538 00:29:41,193 --> 00:29:43,195 Or I can just become a slobbering, drooling fan 539 00:29:43,229 --> 00:29:45,266 like the rest of the people in the club. 540 00:29:45,300 --> 00:29:47,993 And hope that maybe I could get her to sing with me. 541 00:29:48,027 --> 00:29:51,237 So I chose the latter as one of the best decisions I ever made. 542 00:29:51,272 --> 00:29:54,965 And Emmy and I became immediate music and social friends. 543 00:29:57,416 --> 00:30:02,317 HARRIS: Linda had a lot to do with lifting me up 544 00:30:02,352 --> 00:30:04,906 at a very, very low time in my life. 545 00:30:06,459 --> 00:30:09,946 I had been kind of my way working with Gram Parsons. 546 00:30:09,980 --> 00:30:12,224 I thought I'd found my voice, 547 00:30:12,258 --> 00:30:15,123 I had found something I love to do singing with him. 548 00:30:15,158 --> 00:30:17,229 ♪ Love hurts ♪ 549 00:30:18,437 --> 00:30:21,129 ♪ Love scars ♪ 550 00:30:22,234 --> 00:30:24,063 On the road to getting himself straight 551 00:30:24,098 --> 00:30:27,653 he was drinking a lot less, he was loving the work, 552 00:30:27,687 --> 00:30:31,174 we loved singing together, we had a record we'd just made, 553 00:30:31,208 --> 00:30:35,454 and apparently someone showed up with heroin 554 00:30:35,488 --> 00:30:40,148 which he hadn't done in a while and it killed him. 555 00:30:41,046 --> 00:30:44,359 It was devastating to lose him like that. 556 00:30:45,947 --> 00:30:50,055 It was Linda who stepped up as a friend 557 00:30:50,089 --> 00:30:52,160 and we had just met each other. 558 00:30:52,195 --> 00:30:56,544 She brought me out to LA, had me stay at her house 559 00:30:56,578 --> 00:30:58,718 and she talked about me to everybody. 560 00:30:58,753 --> 00:31:02,999 Said how great I was and genuinely loved my singing. 561 00:31:03,033 --> 00:31:07,624 Genuinely made me feel like I had something to offer 562 00:31:07,658 --> 00:31:11,386 at a very low time in my life. 563 00:31:12,387 --> 00:31:14,527 ♪ Love hurts ♪ 564 00:31:16,633 --> 00:31:18,669 ♪ Save me ♪ 565 00:31:19,463 --> 00:31:22,294 ♪ Free me ♪ 566 00:31:22,328 --> 00:31:25,297 ♪ From love ♪ 567 00:31:25,642 --> 00:31:27,920 ♪ This time ♪ 568 00:31:30,026 --> 00:31:34,202 ♪ Well the train's gone ♪ 569 00:31:34,582 --> 00:31:37,757 ♪ Down the track ♪ 570 00:31:37,792 --> 00:31:43,625 ♪ and I'm I'm left behind ♪ 571 00:31:46,180 --> 00:31:49,735 KARLA BONOFF: Linda was always very tight with her girlfriends. 572 00:31:49,769 --> 00:31:52,186 They sang together, they shared music together, she was 573 00:31:52,220 --> 00:31:54,119 supportive of me. 574 00:31:54,395 --> 00:31:59,124 I was writing songs and hoping to make my own record 575 00:31:59,158 --> 00:32:02,575 but of course Linda was really coming into her own 576 00:32:02,610 --> 00:32:05,233 and starting to be really successful. 577 00:32:07,201 --> 00:32:09,410 I think a songwriter doing their songs is different 578 00:32:09,444 --> 00:32:11,619 than a singer do their songs. 579 00:32:11,653 --> 00:32:14,346 Some people prefer the songwriter doing them, some 580 00:32:14,380 --> 00:32:17,142 people prefer Linda doing them. 581 00:32:17,383 --> 00:32:18,764 But "Lose Again" she definitely made 582 00:32:18,798 --> 00:32:20,662 into a bigger song. 583 00:32:22,388 --> 00:32:25,322 ♪ But nothing can save me ♪ 584 00:32:25,357 --> 00:32:27,428 ♪ From this b=Ball and chain ♪ 585 00:32:27,462 --> 00:32:28,947 Because I couldn't sing it like that. 586 00:32:28,981 --> 00:32:30,293 ♪ I made up my mind ♪ 587 00:32:31,639 --> 00:32:36,161 ♪ I would leave today ♪ 588 00:32:37,058 --> 00:32:40,579 I mean Linda came out and turned it into this power ballad. 589 00:32:41,028 --> 00:32:43,306 ♪ I know it's insane ♪ 590 00:32:43,547 --> 00:32:45,756 ♪ Because I love you ♪ 591 00:32:45,791 --> 00:32:50,175 ♪ And lose again ♪ 592 00:32:50,658 --> 00:32:54,075 ♪ Oh, I love you ♪ 593 00:32:54,110 --> 00:32:59,115 ♪ And lose again ♪ 594 00:33:06,639 --> 00:33:09,780 BONOFF: Back then there wasn't competition with women. 595 00:33:09,815 --> 00:33:11,506 So I think, you know, women, 596 00:33:11,541 --> 00:33:13,198 there weren't that many of us either. 597 00:33:13,232 --> 00:33:16,442 So I think there was a certain amount of banding together 598 00:33:16,477 --> 00:33:19,066 to sort of share our woman part of it. 599 00:33:19,100 --> 00:33:20,999 This is a song off our new album. 600 00:33:22,517 --> 00:33:25,244 It's about a real special place called home. 601 00:33:26,383 --> 00:33:28,316 That's a Karla Bonoff song. 602 00:33:29,248 --> 00:33:32,458 BONOFF: I had made a demo of Home and we sent it off to Bonnie, 603 00:33:32,493 --> 00:33:35,737 just a complete long shot, and she decided to record it. 604 00:33:36,083 --> 00:33:38,464 ♪ Traveling at night ♪ 605 00:33:39,362 --> 00:33:41,847 ♪ The headlights Were bright ♪ 606 00:33:41,881 --> 00:33:45,816 ♪ And soon the sun came through the trees ♪ 607 00:33:47,853 --> 00:33:50,787 ♪ Around the next bend ♪ 608 00:33:50,821 --> 00:33:53,824 ♪ The flowers will send ♪ 609 00:33:53,859 --> 00:33:58,346 ♪ The sweet smell of home In the breeze ♪ 610 00:33:58,381 --> 00:34:01,349 RAITT: Linda and I are like sisters, around the same age 611 00:34:01,384 --> 00:34:03,351 and we were coming up and had the same mutual 612 00:34:03,386 --> 00:34:05,250 other musician friends and band members 613 00:34:05,284 --> 00:34:08,805 and, you know, it was a community of artists, 614 00:34:08,839 --> 00:34:12,498 it wasn't sexually divided between just the women and men. 615 00:34:12,533 --> 00:34:14,328 We weren't thinking in terms of that. 616 00:34:15,398 --> 00:34:18,608 CROWE: Linda and Bonnie Raitt were two of the first women 617 00:34:18,642 --> 00:34:21,680 that I was able to see as a young journalist 618 00:34:21,714 --> 00:34:24,683 and study the way they operated in this community. 619 00:34:25,235 --> 00:34:27,513 We're going to move into this world where we're running bands 620 00:34:27,548 --> 00:34:30,827 with guys in them but we can also look after each other. 621 00:34:31,862 --> 00:34:35,176 RAITT: I said if I can have it on my terms and you understand 622 00:34:35,211 --> 00:34:39,180 I'm not going to be told how to dress or what music to make. 623 00:34:39,215 --> 00:34:40,457 Great! 624 00:34:40,492 --> 00:34:43,357 We were all throwing away all those conventions, you know. 625 00:34:45,324 --> 00:34:48,189 RONSTADT: The rock and roll culture is so male dominated and it also seems 626 00:34:48,224 --> 00:34:51,606 to be dominated by sort of hostility against women. 627 00:34:51,641 --> 00:34:53,608 That this sort of... 628 00:34:55,369 --> 00:35:00,512 sort of sexual identity that is sort of used as a weapon 629 00:35:00,546 --> 00:35:02,686 against the populace and women in particular 630 00:35:02,721 --> 00:35:04,654 and then everyone identifies with it. 631 00:35:04,895 --> 00:35:07,760 And it's sort of sad to me because what happens is that... 632 00:35:09,555 --> 00:35:14,181 is that rock and roll stars end up isolating themselves 633 00:35:14,215 --> 00:35:16,873 more and more and more, thereby increasing their own feelings of 634 00:35:16,907 --> 00:35:20,497 alienation and anxiety and they wonder why they're so miserable. 635 00:35:20,532 --> 00:35:24,260 That's really when they turn to drugs and destroy themselves. 636 00:35:24,294 --> 00:35:26,779 It's just very silly. It just seems very silly. 637 00:35:26,814 --> 00:35:33,269 They lose the ability to focus on themselves as a person 638 00:35:33,303 --> 00:35:37,652 rather than as an image and that's very dangerous I think. 639 00:35:37,687 --> 00:35:40,483 And there are always a lot of people around them, 640 00:35:40,517 --> 00:35:45,246 managers and scene makers, you know, groupies and whatever, 641 00:35:45,281 --> 00:35:48,215 that are willing to indulge them in anything they want. 642 00:35:48,249 --> 00:35:51,873 It weakens them, it weakens them as people 643 00:35:51,908 --> 00:35:54,152 and it eventually weakens them as musicians. 644 00:35:54,186 --> 00:35:55,670 [Willin' by Linda Ronstadt] 645 00:35:57,569 --> 00:35:59,812 ♪ I been warped By the rain ♪ 646 00:35:59,847 --> 00:36:01,469 ♪ Driven by the snow ♪ 647 00:36:01,504 --> 00:36:03,471 ♪ I'm drunk and dirty ♪ 648 00:36:03,506 --> 00:36:04,783 ♪ Don't you know ♪ 649 00:36:04,817 --> 00:36:06,612 ♪ But I'm still ♪ 650 00:36:08,545 --> 00:36:10,237 ♪ Willin' ♪ 651 00:36:12,308 --> 00:36:15,414 ♪ Out on the road Late last night ♪ 652 00:36:15,449 --> 00:36:19,487 ♪ I'd see my pretty Alice in every headlight ♪ 653 00:36:19,522 --> 00:36:21,282 ♪ Alice ♪ 654 00:36:21,869 --> 00:36:24,354 ♪ Dallas Alice ♪ 655 00:36:24,975 --> 00:36:28,945 ♪ And I've been from Tucson to Tucumcari ♪ 656 00:36:29,704 --> 00:36:32,811 ♪ Tehachapi to Tonopah ♪ 657 00:36:32,845 --> 00:36:37,505 ♪ Driven every kind of rig that's ever been made ♪ 658 00:36:37,850 --> 00:36:40,646 PETER ASHER: I was in New York and somebody said 659 00:36:40,681 --> 00:36:42,821 you have to go see this girl, she's amazing. 660 00:36:42,855 --> 00:36:45,237 She's one of the best singers you'll ever hear, 661 00:36:45,272 --> 00:36:46,652 she's brilliant. 662 00:36:47,343 --> 00:36:50,277 She's incredibly great looking, she sings barefoot 663 00:36:50,311 --> 00:36:53,728 and will knock you out in every respect and she did. 664 00:36:54,384 --> 00:37:00,459 ♪ Whites and wine ♪ 665 00:37:01,495 --> 00:37:04,498 ♪ And you show me a sign ♪ 666 00:37:05,015 --> 00:37:06,741 ♪ And I'll be willin' ♪ 667 00:37:06,776 --> 00:37:09,296 I was running the Beatles record label Apple. 668 00:37:09,330 --> 00:37:11,850 When Apple started to fall apart and the Beatles were breaking up 669 00:37:11,884 --> 00:37:14,956 and all of that I went to America 670 00:37:14,991 --> 00:37:16,855 and there I was being a manager. 671 00:37:18,097 --> 00:37:20,824 HILBURN: I wanted to go back to work as a record producer 672 00:37:20,859 --> 00:37:23,275 so I suggested Linda go and meet with Peter 673 00:37:23,310 --> 00:37:26,036 which we did and he agreed to manage her. 674 00:37:27,866 --> 00:37:29,316 BROWNE: There was a high bar there. 675 00:37:29,350 --> 00:37:30,869 Peter Asher had hung around with the Beatles. 676 00:37:30,903 --> 00:37:34,286 He expected to make records that are huge successes 677 00:37:34,321 --> 00:37:36,530 and he was poised to do that with Linda 678 00:37:36,564 --> 00:37:38,877 and Geffen was ready to be their record company 679 00:37:38,911 --> 00:37:40,637 that would be there. 680 00:37:43,606 --> 00:37:46,091 DAVID GEFFEN: I started Asylum Records and signed Jackson Browne 681 00:37:46,125 --> 00:37:49,922 and then signing other artists and it turned into what it did. 682 00:37:53,098 --> 00:37:55,031 And I knew when I saw Linda and the Stone Poneys 683 00:37:55,065 --> 00:37:56,998 that she was gonna make it and she was gonna make it 684 00:37:57,033 --> 00:38:00,830 as a solo artist and I knew she was going to be a big star. 685 00:38:01,693 --> 00:38:03,281 She didn't think so. 686 00:38:04,074 --> 00:38:06,525 She had very little confidence in those days. 687 00:38:08,769 --> 00:38:10,633 Linda was feeling like she wasn't good enough 688 00:38:10,667 --> 00:38:12,359 to be on Asylum Records. 689 00:38:13,877 --> 00:38:16,777 I said to her that that was crazy. 690 00:38:18,157 --> 00:38:20,539 RONSTADT: I'm never really satisfied with what I do. 691 00:38:20,919 --> 00:38:22,955 And lots of times I hear that I did something wrong 692 00:38:22,990 --> 00:38:25,510 and it bothers me, it can ruin my day really. 693 00:38:25,820 --> 00:38:28,996 ASHER: Linda never thought she was as good as she was 694 00:38:29,030 --> 00:38:31,723 and that is an interesting paradox 695 00:38:31,757 --> 00:38:33,932 because she's confident about her ideas 696 00:38:33,966 --> 00:38:36,762 but not about herself and not about her singing. 697 00:38:38,557 --> 00:38:41,802 My involvement as a producer with Linda came when she was 698 00:38:41,836 --> 00:38:45,461 having trouble finishing the album that became Don't Cry Now. 699 00:38:46,013 --> 00:38:49,016 And that's when we decided that the next album I would produce 700 00:38:49,050 --> 00:38:50,500 was Heart Like a Wheel. 701 00:38:50,535 --> 00:38:55,505 ♪ Some say a heart Is just like a wheel ♪ 702 00:38:55,540 --> 00:38:57,645 ♪ When you bend it ♪ 703 00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,164 ♪ You can't mend it ♪ 704 00:38:59,198 --> 00:39:02,719 RONSTADT: The McGarrigle Sisters, who were these two Canadian sisters, 705 00:39:02,754 --> 00:39:04,031 they were in an odd category. 706 00:39:04,065 --> 00:39:06,999 They didn't fit in pop music, they didn't fit in folk music, 707 00:39:07,034 --> 00:39:09,968 they didn't fit anywhere except they fit in my heart. 708 00:39:10,002 --> 00:39:11,383 We just heard Heart Like A Wheel, 709 00:39:11,418 --> 00:39:13,040 then I went I have to sing it. 710 00:39:14,110 --> 00:39:17,665 ♪ When harm is done ♪ 711 00:39:17,872 --> 00:39:21,117 ♪ No love can be won ♪ 712 00:39:21,151 --> 00:39:24,672 ♪ I know it happens ♪ 713 00:39:24,707 --> 00:39:27,813 ♪ Frequently ♪ 714 00:39:29,021 --> 00:39:31,058 ♪ But I can't... ♪ 715 00:39:31,092 --> 00:39:35,545 PARTON: Linda has the ability to hear a song and claim it. 716 00:39:35,752 --> 00:39:37,754 You claim it as your own as a singer. 717 00:39:37,789 --> 00:39:40,723 If you love it like that you get inside it. 718 00:39:40,757 --> 00:39:42,069 You become it. 719 00:39:42,483 --> 00:39:49,663 ♪ But my love for you Is like a sinking ship ♪ 720 00:39:50,111 --> 00:39:58,119 ♪ And my heart is on that ship out in mid-ocean ♪ 721 00:40:01,916 --> 00:40:03,780 ASHER: Heart Like a Wheel, she discovered that song, 722 00:40:03,815 --> 00:40:05,161 brought it to me and I loved it. 723 00:40:05,195 --> 00:40:07,750 I thought it was beautiful but I was also thinking 724 00:40:07,784 --> 00:40:09,476 in terms of we should make some hits. 725 00:40:09,510 --> 00:40:11,029 ♪ Feelin' better ♪ 726 00:40:11,063 --> 00:40:13,480 ♪ Now that we're through ♪ 727 00:40:13,514 --> 00:40:15,654 ♪ Feelin' better ♪ 728 00:40:15,689 --> 00:40:17,518 ♪ 'Cause I'm over you ♪ 729 00:40:17,553 --> 00:40:19,209 RONSTADT: I'm a ballad singer, I like to sing ballads best 730 00:40:19,244 --> 00:40:22,040 but we needed some up-tempo songs for the record 731 00:40:22,074 --> 00:40:23,904 and as an afterthought I had this song 732 00:40:23,938 --> 00:40:26,562 that we'd used to close the show. 733 00:40:26,596 --> 00:40:28,218 ♪ You're no good You're no good ♪ 734 00:40:28,253 --> 00:40:32,050 ♪ You're no good Baby, you're no good ♪ 735 00:40:32,878 --> 00:40:34,846 ♪ I'm gonna say it again ♪ 736 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,020 ♪ You're no good You're no good ♪ 737 00:40:37,055 --> 00:40:41,128 ♪ You're no good Baby, you're no good ♪ 738 00:40:41,749 --> 00:40:43,993 ASHER: She knew and loved the song, I knew and loved the song, 739 00:40:44,027 --> 00:40:47,134 and we decided to do a version of that song. 740 00:40:49,861 --> 00:40:54,072 I stayed up all night assembling this very complicated, 741 00:40:54,106 --> 00:40:57,144 intricate layered guitar piece. 742 00:40:57,662 --> 00:41:00,975 We worked very long into like the next afternoon. 743 00:41:01,528 --> 00:41:03,909 And that's when Linda turned up and didn't like it. 744 00:41:05,601 --> 00:41:08,155 She said, "Oh, I don't like it. It sounds like the Beatles," 745 00:41:08,189 --> 00:41:09,674 which it did sound like the Beatles 746 00:41:09,708 --> 00:41:11,296 but in the end she came around and said, 747 00:41:11,330 --> 00:41:13,643 "You know what, I was wrong. It's great." 748 00:41:14,575 --> 00:41:18,096 [You're No Good by Linda Ronstadt] 749 00:41:25,655 --> 00:41:30,211 ♪ I'm tellin' you now baby And I'm going my way ♪ 750 00:41:30,660 --> 00:41:35,734 ♪ Forget about you, baby 'Cause I'm leaving to stay ♪ 751 00:41:35,769 --> 00:41:37,218 RONSTADT: Every song that I sing has a face 752 00:41:37,253 --> 00:41:39,117 that I sing it to, you know. 753 00:41:39,151 --> 00:41:43,742 And so when something happens to me, 754 00:41:43,777 --> 00:41:45,606 it's really funny, I know so many songs. 755 00:41:45,641 --> 00:41:47,125 When something happens to me 756 00:41:47,159 --> 00:41:48,920 the song will occur at the same time. 757 00:41:48,954 --> 00:41:50,646 I'll think oh, this song or that song, you know. 758 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:52,924 And if it's a song I can sing then I'll have to sing it, 759 00:41:52,958 --> 00:41:55,892 I'll just burn to sing it. I can't not sing it. 760 00:41:55,927 --> 00:41:59,862 ♪ I passed you on the street ♪ 761 00:42:00,241 --> 00:42:04,349 ♪ And my heart Fell at your feet ♪ 762 00:42:04,383 --> 00:42:06,696 ♪ I can't help it ♪ 763 00:42:06,731 --> 00:42:11,321 ♪ If I'm still In love with you ♪ 764 00:42:12,219 --> 00:42:15,187 He would make the assumption that I was choosing the songs 765 00:42:15,222 --> 00:42:17,673 that we would do on these records or that I was working 766 00:42:17,707 --> 00:42:20,020 out the arrangements or this, that, and the other. 767 00:42:20,054 --> 00:42:21,849 And I would have to keep explaining that 768 00:42:21,884 --> 00:42:24,576 it was Linda and me in that order. 769 00:42:25,232 --> 00:42:28,925 ♪ Still in love with you ♪ 770 00:42:30,133 --> 00:42:32,722 RONSTADT: My sister used to play all these Hank Williams records. 771 00:42:32,757 --> 00:42:35,173 So I thought I can do that. 772 00:42:35,207 --> 00:42:38,314 ♪ Came slowly stealing ♪ 773 00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,905 ♪ As I brushed your arm ♪ 774 00:42:42,939 --> 00:42:46,771 ♪ And stood So close to you... ♪ 775 00:42:46,805 --> 00:42:48,842 SOUTHER: Linda knew a good song 776 00:42:48,876 --> 00:42:50,637 and she knew why it was good and better than that 777 00:42:50,671 --> 00:42:52,708 she knew how to sing it better than you can sing. 778 00:42:52,742 --> 00:42:57,195 When you become that sharp of a song stylist, 779 00:42:57,229 --> 00:43:00,163 you get authorship in a certain way. 780 00:43:00,198 --> 00:43:02,752 I consider her a real author. 781 00:43:02,787 --> 00:43:06,307 She didn't write songs but she made songs happen 782 00:43:06,342 --> 00:43:07,688 the way she wanted to hear them. 783 00:43:07,723 --> 00:43:13,038 ♪ I can't help it if I'm still in love with you ♪ 784 00:43:13,660 --> 00:43:15,731 RONSTADT: I Can't Help it if I'm Still in Love With You 785 00:43:15,765 --> 00:43:17,629 was a hit on the country charts. 786 00:43:18,078 --> 00:43:21,391 You're No Good was a hit on both the R&B chart and the pop chart. 787 00:43:22,254 --> 00:43:25,154 So I became the first artist to have a hit on all three charts 788 00:43:25,188 --> 00:43:26,776 at the same time. 789 00:43:31,229 --> 00:43:34,888 CROWE: Heart Like A Wheel was a huge turning point for her. 790 00:43:35,751 --> 00:43:40,790 The avalanche of success was hitting everywhere. 791 00:43:41,032 --> 00:43:43,448 She was at the forefront of a kind of pop stardom 792 00:43:43,482 --> 00:43:46,106 that hadn't happened at that point 793 00:43:46,140 --> 00:43:50,662 but people didn't notice the difficulty of being a woman, 794 00:43:50,697 --> 00:43:54,390 trailblazing and having the success of a Mick Jagger. 795 00:43:56,772 --> 00:44:00,361 [Tumbling Dice by Linda Ronstadt] 796 00:44:03,226 --> 00:44:07,783 ♪ People try to rape me Always thinking I'm crazy ♪ 797 00:44:07,817 --> 00:44:10,958 ♪ Make me burn the candle right down ♪ 798 00:44:12,442 --> 00:44:14,272 ♪ Baby ♪ 799 00:44:14,824 --> 00:44:16,688 ♪ I can't stay ♪ 800 00:44:16,999 --> 00:44:20,174 ♪ Don't need no jewels In my crown ♪ 801 00:44:21,003 --> 00:44:23,695 ♪ 'Cause all you women ♪ 802 00:44:23,730 --> 00:44:25,973 ♪ Are low down gamblers ♪ 803 00:44:26,008 --> 00:44:28,320 RONSTADT: Now I had gigs like in big sporting arenas, 804 00:44:28,355 --> 00:44:30,426 you know, stadiums and stuff like that. 805 00:44:30,944 --> 00:44:33,187 I knew the name of every arena in the country. 806 00:44:33,222 --> 00:44:35,224 We got a gig tonight at the Spectrum in Philly. 807 00:44:35,258 --> 00:44:36,259 We'll be at the Forum. 808 00:44:36,294 --> 00:44:37,467 Gig tomorrow night at the Garden. 809 00:44:37,502 --> 00:44:38,468 That's where we played. 810 00:44:38,503 --> 00:44:40,091 She was selling them all out. 811 00:44:40,125 --> 00:44:41,817 ♪ This low down bitchin' ♪ 812 00:44:41,851 --> 00:44:44,302 ♪ Got my poor feet a itchin' ♪ 813 00:44:44,336 --> 00:44:47,236 ♪ Can you see The deuce is still wild ♪ 814 00:44:47,270 --> 00:44:48,755 GEFFEN: She was very good. 815 00:44:48,789 --> 00:44:49,859 Audience loved her. 816 00:44:49,894 --> 00:44:50,826 Records sold. 817 00:44:50,860 --> 00:44:54,001 She was on an uphill swing all the time. 818 00:44:54,036 --> 00:44:55,969 ♪ Got to roll me ♪ 819 00:44:56,003 --> 00:45:00,387 ♪ Call me the tumblin' dice ♪ 820 00:45:03,252 --> 00:45:04,943 BROWNE: When we did that tour together 821 00:45:04,978 --> 00:45:07,118 we'd take turns closing and opening. 822 00:45:09,154 --> 00:45:12,295 You know. Try following Linda Ronstadt every night. 823 00:45:12,330 --> 00:45:16,023 ♪ Honey Got no money ♪ 824 00:45:16,575 --> 00:45:19,855 ♪ Sixes and sevens and nines ♪ 825 00:45:20,476 --> 00:45:24,273 ♪ Hey now baby I'm the rank outsider ♪ 826 00:45:24,307 --> 00:45:26,344 RAITT: I went to go see her at the Universal Amphitheater 827 00:45:26,378 --> 00:45:28,311 when she was wearing her Boy Scouts outfit 828 00:45:28,346 --> 00:45:29,934 and was just rocking. 829 00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,040 ♪ Baby... ♪ 830 00:45:33,075 --> 00:45:35,525 BONOFF: Linda was able to be really feminine and sexy 831 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:40,323 in this world of men and somehow hold onto herself and do that 832 00:45:40,358 --> 00:45:43,223 and use that in the best possible way. 833 00:45:54,855 --> 00:45:58,238 WACHTEL: There was a lot of dudes running around the stages then. 834 00:45:58,272 --> 00:46:01,482 But we were on the road with Linda and killing it. 835 00:46:01,517 --> 00:46:02,794 She was killing every night. 836 00:46:02,829 --> 00:46:05,279 ♪ The tumbling dice ♪ 837 00:46:06,418 --> 00:46:08,282 ♪ You got to roll me ♪ 838 00:46:08,317 --> 00:46:10,353 I know they liked my singing and I know they were proud 839 00:46:10,388 --> 00:46:12,873 of what they were doing but still in rock and roll 840 00:46:12,908 --> 00:46:15,393 the idea that you're actually working for a chick singer, 841 00:46:15,427 --> 00:46:18,016 in their way they sort of saw it as not as cool 842 00:46:18,051 --> 00:46:19,535 as if they were their own rock and roll band 843 00:46:19,569 --> 00:46:21,261 and they were just all the guys. 844 00:46:23,090 --> 00:46:26,542 ♪ Baby, baby Got to roll me ♪ 845 00:46:26,576 --> 00:46:28,613 BONOFF: There weren't a lot of women musicians 846 00:46:28,647 --> 00:46:31,236 so it was always a band of guys. 847 00:46:31,271 --> 00:46:34,481 There weren't women bass players and women guitar players 848 00:46:34,515 --> 00:46:38,243 and sometimes some of these guys were, they were tough. 849 00:46:40,383 --> 00:46:42,420 RONSTADT: I got a lot tougher and more foul mouthed. 850 00:46:42,454 --> 00:46:43,421 I used to swear a lot. 851 00:46:43,455 --> 00:46:44,940 I mean, I used to talk like a truck driver. 852 00:46:44,974 --> 00:46:47,597 When I think about the way I used to talk, I'm shocked. 853 00:46:51,015 --> 00:46:53,465 Without having any other girls along on the road, 854 00:46:53,500 --> 00:46:56,399 just automatically you start to imitate them. 855 00:46:59,644 --> 00:47:03,096 HARRIS: Linda was never comfortable being on the road 856 00:47:03,130 --> 00:47:08,135 but obviously she did her job and part of her loved it. 857 00:47:08,170 --> 00:47:09,309 Who wouldn't love it? 858 00:47:09,343 --> 00:47:12,105 But I think there was another part of her that went, 859 00:47:12,139 --> 00:47:14,279 "You know, this doesn't feel right." 860 00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:17,455 RONSTADT: If I were going to choose something to do 861 00:47:17,489 --> 00:47:19,422 it would not be to stand up in front of a lot of people. 862 00:47:19,457 --> 00:47:21,183 But I love to sing, I love to sing. 863 00:47:21,217 --> 00:47:23,461 I love music so at some point you do whatever you have to do 864 00:47:23,495 --> 00:47:25,221 to do music. 865 00:47:26,671 --> 00:47:29,501 ASHER: She would confess to me that if she saw people in the front row 866 00:47:29,536 --> 00:47:33,126 and somebody leans over and says something to the person 867 00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,508 next to them, she thought they were saying, you know, 868 00:47:36,543 --> 00:47:38,614 she's the worst singer I've ever heard. 869 00:47:38,648 --> 00:47:40,098 I don't like this. 870 00:47:40,374 --> 00:47:42,100 She really believed that. 871 00:47:43,481 --> 00:47:46,173 WACHTEL: You get on the bus at night, card game going on, 872 00:47:46,208 --> 00:47:48,175 everybody blasting music 873 00:47:48,210 --> 00:47:50,453 or everyone else drinking, you know. 874 00:47:50,488 --> 00:47:52,317 A lot of drugs around. 875 00:47:53,042 --> 00:47:55,424 A lot of people would go on stage completely hammered, 876 00:47:55,458 --> 00:47:57,219 completely fucking hammered. 877 00:47:57,253 --> 00:48:01,016 RAITT: Everybody was up at night and when the gig ended 878 00:48:01,050 --> 00:48:03,018 you don't go home and have milk. 879 00:48:04,536 --> 00:48:08,057 It was kind of the nighttime danger fun part about 880 00:48:08,092 --> 00:48:09,679 not having to go to bed. 881 00:48:09,714 --> 00:48:11,681 You know, Keith Richards can do it, so can I. 882 00:48:11,716 --> 00:48:14,443 Linda's thing was diet pills. 883 00:48:16,134 --> 00:48:18,343 ASHER: She went through a phase mostly taking speed 884 00:48:18,378 --> 00:48:21,036 and not eating and being super skinny. 885 00:48:21,691 --> 00:48:25,040 RONSTADT: It seemed like it was so hard to be out there day after day 886 00:48:25,074 --> 00:48:27,042 and to try to get up the energy to sort of do that 887 00:48:27,076 --> 00:48:30,114 when you were just wrung out 888 00:48:30,148 --> 00:48:33,151 from the sense of being dislocated from place. 889 00:48:35,188 --> 00:48:37,707 I was with a bunch of people that were basically earnest 890 00:48:37,742 --> 00:48:39,226 and basically honest 891 00:48:39,261 --> 00:48:42,057 and the kind of paranoia that was introduced by drugs 892 00:48:42,091 --> 00:48:44,059 was so destructive in our ability to communicate 893 00:48:44,093 --> 00:48:44,956 with each other. 894 00:48:44,991 --> 00:48:47,096 That really saddened me. 895 00:48:47,131 --> 00:48:50,410 And then at some point we all just stopped. 896 00:48:51,100 --> 00:48:53,931 [Blue Bayou by Linda Ronstadt] 897 00:48:54,483 --> 00:48:56,416 ♪ I feel so bad ♪ 898 00:48:56,450 --> 00:48:59,729 ♪ I got a worried mind ♪ 899 00:49:00,661 --> 00:49:03,009 ♪ I'm so lonesome ♪ 900 00:49:03,043 --> 00:49:04,942 ♪ All the time ♪ 901 00:49:06,046 --> 00:49:10,430 ♪ Since I left my Baby behind ♪ 902 00:49:10,464 --> 00:49:13,019 ♪ On Blue Bayou ♪ 903 00:49:17,057 --> 00:49:21,234 ♪ Saving nickels Saving dimes ♪ 904 00:49:22,338 --> 00:49:26,273 ♪ Workin' 'til The sun don't shine ♪ 905 00:49:27,447 --> 00:49:31,554 ♪ Looking forward To happier times ♪ 906 00:49:31,589 --> 00:49:34,281 ♪ On Blue Bayou ♪ 907 00:49:36,421 --> 00:49:39,355 ♪ I'm going back someday ♪ 908 00:49:39,804 --> 00:49:41,771 ♪ Come what may ♪ 909 00:49:41,806 --> 00:49:45,499 ♪ To Blue Bayou ♪ 910 00:49:46,776 --> 00:49:49,641 ♪ Where the folks are fine ♪ 911 00:49:49,676 --> 00:49:52,644 ♪ And the world is mine ♪ 912 00:49:52,679 --> 00:49:55,716 ♪ On Blue Bayou ♪ 913 00:49:56,683 --> 00:50:00,135 CROWE: When Rolling Stone was ready to put Linda Ronstadt on the cover 914 00:50:00,169 --> 00:50:03,448 that was her absolute peak up until then. 915 00:50:03,655 --> 00:50:07,280 ♪ If I could only see ♪ 916 00:50:07,314 --> 00:50:10,248 Generally it was a very male-oriented 917 00:50:10,283 --> 00:50:12,664 denim-clad warrior cover. 918 00:50:14,459 --> 00:50:16,392 So here comes Linda Ronstadt 919 00:50:16,427 --> 00:50:20,396 and she and Annie Leibovitz put together this photo session 920 00:50:20,431 --> 00:50:22,605 that was like no other cover that had been 921 00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:24,573 on Rolling Stone before. 922 00:50:26,609 --> 00:50:28,542 She was honest 923 00:50:31,407 --> 00:50:33,547 and opened her heart. 924 00:50:34,410 --> 00:50:38,483 She said, "This gets lonely and I don't know where it ends up. 925 00:50:38,725 --> 00:50:40,554 It's an emotional journey 926 00:50:40,589 --> 00:50:42,591 and I'm happy that I brought this kind of joy. 927 00:50:42,625 --> 00:50:44,248 But you know what? When I'm here alone 928 00:50:44,282 --> 00:50:48,114 in this Malibu home that looks very cozy, it's lonely." 929 00:50:49,218 --> 00:50:51,703 RONSTADT: There's a lot of show business people down here, you know. 930 00:50:51,738 --> 00:50:53,671 It's not my style exactly. 931 00:50:53,705 --> 00:50:56,501 INTERVIEWER: Where did you live before? 932 00:50:56,536 --> 00:50:59,435 Nowhere really. I was on the road for about ten years 933 00:50:59,470 --> 00:51:02,473 and I didn't exactly have a home. 934 00:51:02,921 --> 00:51:07,823 ♪ On Blue Bayou ♪ 935 00:51:22,700 --> 00:51:25,358 ANNOUNCER: Singing the National Anthem here at Dodger Stadium, 936 00:51:25,392 --> 00:51:27,360 Ms. Linda Ronstadt. 937 00:51:31,605 --> 00:51:34,194 ♪ Oh, say can you see? ♪ 938 00:51:34,229 --> 00:51:37,611 PATRICIA CASADO: I remember my dad was watching her at the game. 939 00:51:37,646 --> 00:51:39,751 She sang the National Anthem. 940 00:51:40,269 --> 00:51:44,273 ♪ What so proudly we hailed ♪ 941 00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,137 ♪ At the twilight's... ♪ 942 00:51:46,172 --> 00:51:47,656 All of sudden there she is. 943 00:51:47,690 --> 00:51:50,555 She'd come in the limo straight to the restaurant from the game 944 00:51:50,590 --> 00:51:52,247 to have something to eat. 945 00:51:53,386 --> 00:51:56,527 My parents had a small restaurant on Melrose Avenue 946 00:51:56,561 --> 00:51:59,737 across the street from what was then KHJ Radio 947 00:51:59,771 --> 00:52:02,153 which was the radio station in the day. 948 00:52:02,774 --> 00:52:05,674 Linda walked in and my dad was wearing a shirt 949 00:52:05,708 --> 00:52:08,504 that we call in Mexico Aloe Vera 950 00:52:08,539 --> 00:52:11,921 and it has four pockets and it's white and she said, 951 00:52:11,956 --> 00:52:13,302 "This is a good place 952 00:52:13,337 --> 00:52:15,477 because he's wearing the shirt my dad wears. 953 00:52:16,340 --> 00:52:18,411 HILBURN: A lot of the people who hung out at the Troubadour 954 00:52:18,445 --> 00:52:20,413 also ate at Lucy's. 955 00:52:21,241 --> 00:52:24,451 Lucy was very shall we say loose with the check 956 00:52:24,486 --> 00:52:26,867 now and again and if we were on hard times. 957 00:52:27,937 --> 00:52:31,320 CASADO: Our customers were not just soon-to-be celebrities 958 00:52:31,355 --> 00:52:34,668 of the industries, they were the oligarch of Los Angeles. 959 00:52:34,703 --> 00:52:37,361 I mean, you're talking old-school money. 960 00:52:38,776 --> 00:52:40,502 There was a big communal table that my father 961 00:52:40,536 --> 00:52:41,641 used to sit everybody at. 962 00:52:41,675 --> 00:52:43,850 So you'd sit with policemen, you'd sit with firemen, 963 00:52:43,884 --> 00:52:46,473 sometimes you'd sit with an actor, sometimes you'd sit... 964 00:52:46,508 --> 00:52:49,304 a football player. You never had any idea who you'd sit with. 965 00:52:49,338 --> 00:52:52,410 What happened was Linda had decided 966 00:52:52,445 --> 00:52:54,412 that she wanted to change the 8-track 967 00:52:54,447 --> 00:52:55,689 because she wanted to hear something else. 968 00:52:55,724 --> 00:52:59,279 So she had to step up on this little wine rack 969 00:52:59,314 --> 00:53:02,420 and at that moment the Governor Jerry Brown comes in 970 00:53:02,455 --> 00:53:06,459 that room and he sees her and it was like wow! 971 00:53:06,493 --> 00:53:07,701 Who's she? 972 00:53:08,530 --> 00:53:11,878 So my father went and he sat them together. 973 00:53:13,362 --> 00:53:14,915 And, well, he fell in love with her. 974 00:53:14,950 --> 00:53:16,745 There was no question about that. 975 00:53:17,815 --> 00:53:19,368 RONSTADT: Jerry likes passionate music. 976 00:53:19,403 --> 00:53:21,439 He likes passionate music, passionate women, 977 00:53:21,474 --> 00:53:22,820 that's his deal. 978 00:53:23,476 --> 00:53:25,443 We had a really good time together. 979 00:53:27,859 --> 00:53:30,276 He went out to run for president for the last couple of months 980 00:53:30,310 --> 00:53:33,348 and he pending for the fact that I got to see him on TV 981 00:53:33,382 --> 00:53:35,522 I may have forgot what he looked like. 982 00:53:38,007 --> 00:53:39,561 But he came back yesterday. 983 00:53:39,595 --> 00:53:40,976 He's gonna make it all better now. 984 00:53:44,428 --> 00:53:45,946 That's what he told me anyway. 985 00:53:45,981 --> 00:53:47,741 I have yet to see. 986 00:53:48,052 --> 00:53:51,573 ♪ My boyfriend's back And you're gonna be trouble ♪ 987 00:53:51,607 --> 00:53:54,921 ♪ Hey now, hey now My boyfriend's back ♪ 988 00:53:54,955 --> 00:53:56,371 ♪ When you see him coming... ♪ 989 00:53:56,405 --> 00:53:58,407 HOST: Did you have much of a problem when you're with Jerry Brown 990 00:53:58,442 --> 00:54:01,272 people expecting you to have political views 991 00:54:01,307 --> 00:54:03,723 along the lines of Governor Brown? 992 00:54:03,757 --> 00:54:06,381 Whereas you're a singer, he's a politician. 993 00:54:06,415 --> 00:54:07,934 Our relationship was completely personal, 994 00:54:07,968 --> 00:54:09,315 it wasn't political at all. 995 00:54:09,349 --> 00:54:11,524 So, you know, he did politics, I did music. 996 00:54:11,558 --> 00:54:13,871 - Right. - It's easy to separate that. 997 00:54:14,112 --> 00:54:16,322 You went to South Africa recently. 998 00:54:16,356 --> 00:54:18,772 Did you receive criticism for going there? 999 00:54:18,807 --> 00:54:20,947 As far as I was concerned it was just a gig. 1000 00:54:20,981 --> 00:54:23,018 I don't think that if you disagree with the policies 1001 00:54:23,052 --> 00:54:25,538 of the government, which I do very definitely disagree 1002 00:54:25,572 --> 00:54:27,609 with the policies of the South African government, 1003 00:54:27,643 --> 00:54:29,058 I don't think that's enough of a reason not to go 1004 00:54:29,093 --> 00:54:30,336 and play music there. 1005 00:54:30,370 --> 00:54:33,028 If I did that I wouldn't be able to play in the United State 1006 00:54:33,062 --> 00:54:35,341 because I don't agree with their policies about nuclear power, 1007 00:54:35,375 --> 00:54:36,583 nuclear warfare. 1008 00:54:36,618 --> 00:54:39,655 I mean, my God, we've got this person running the country 1009 00:54:39,690 --> 00:54:41,416 that I completely disagree with. 1010 00:54:41,450 --> 00:54:43,901 If I decided that I wasn't going to play where attitudes 1011 00:54:43,935 --> 00:54:47,663 of racism prevailed, I certainly couldn't play in Australia 1012 00:54:47,698 --> 00:54:51,529 or England or lots of places in the United States, 1013 00:54:51,564 --> 00:54:53,842 a lot of places in the American South or Boston 1014 00:54:53,876 --> 00:54:55,533 which is extremely racist. 1015 00:54:55,568 --> 00:54:58,467 I went to South Africa, it has a fascist repressive government. 1016 00:54:58,502 --> 00:55:00,020 I'm very interested in the culture down there. 1017 00:55:00,055 --> 00:55:01,056 You just got finished talking. 1018 00:55:01,090 --> 00:55:03,369 You say why does anyone think I'm controversial. 1019 00:55:03,403 --> 00:55:05,543 Do you realized what you've just talked about here? 1020 00:55:05,578 --> 00:55:07,821 We've just received all your political views in one blow. 1021 00:55:07,856 --> 00:55:09,858 I'm teasing. I'm not putting it down. 1022 00:55:09,892 --> 00:55:12,343 I don't think my political views are very controversial. 1023 00:55:12,378 --> 00:55:14,414 Who likes nuclear warfare? 1024 00:55:14,449 --> 00:55:17,003 I remember her having the Wall Street Journal in her bag 1025 00:55:17,037 --> 00:55:20,006 one time in the 70s when she was dating Jerry and I went, 1026 00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:23,147 you know, I had thought she was really smart but she's really 1027 00:55:23,181 --> 00:55:26,392 well read and very, very up on a lot of different things. 1028 00:55:26,426 --> 00:55:31,051 She's as wide ranging in her critical intellectual pursuits 1029 00:55:31,086 --> 00:55:34,572 as she is in her music pursuits and you don't find that kind 1030 00:55:34,607 --> 00:55:37,955 of depth and eclecticism in pop music. 1031 00:55:39,612 --> 00:55:44,375 CASADO: Jerry needed somebody that could be full-time there for him. 1032 00:55:45,169 --> 00:55:47,654 You couldn't have two careers in that family. 1033 00:55:47,689 --> 00:55:50,657 ♪ I never will marry... ♪ 1034 00:55:50,692 --> 00:55:51,969 There's not enough time. 1035 00:55:52,003 --> 00:55:55,006 ♪ I'll be no man's wife ♪ 1036 00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,803 ♪ I tend to stay single ♪ 1037 00:56:00,011 --> 00:56:03,014 ♪ For my rest of my life ♪ 1038 00:56:03,567 --> 00:56:06,086 BONOFF: I mean, the same reason I never got married. 1039 00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:08,641 I don't know, I think it's hard being a woman 1040 00:56:08,675 --> 00:56:10,021 in the music business. 1041 00:56:10,056 --> 00:56:13,508 You know, it's a different kind of life. 1042 00:56:13,784 --> 00:56:16,027 ♪ Rushing waters ♪ 1043 00:56:16,718 --> 00:56:20,584 ♪ Went over my head ♪ 1044 00:56:20,618 --> 00:56:22,724 RAITT: Well you don't need to get married, you what I mean? 1045 00:56:22,758 --> 00:56:24,760 It's like we have our own income 1046 00:56:24,795 --> 00:56:27,970 and you don't have to have the state verify 1047 00:56:28,005 --> 00:56:29,593 that you love somebody 1048 00:56:29,627 --> 00:56:31,595 and when that relationship's over you leave. 1049 00:56:31,629 --> 00:56:33,459 Neither one of us are really made for marriage 1050 00:56:33,493 --> 00:56:36,151 or I think long-term relationships. 1051 00:56:36,876 --> 00:56:38,222 INTERVIEWER: Why did you break up? 1052 00:56:38,256 --> 00:56:41,087 I can't remember. Maybe she could tell you. 1053 00:56:41,121 --> 00:56:44,918 ♪ It's so easy to fall in love ♪ 1054 00:56:45,229 --> 00:56:49,026 ♪ It's so easy to fall in love ♪ 1055 00:56:49,854 --> 00:56:53,202 ♪ People tell me Love's for fools ♪ 1056 00:56:53,755 --> 00:56:57,621 ♪ But here I go Breaking all the rules ♪ 1057 00:56:57,655 --> 00:56:59,554 ♪ Seems so easy... ♪ 1058 00:56:59,588 --> 00:57:03,040 RONSTADT: My mom wanted to be a scientist but she had four kids 1059 00:57:03,074 --> 00:57:06,215 and I think it was also a little bit of a disappointment. 1060 00:57:06,250 --> 00:57:08,735 ♪ It's so easy To fall in love... ♪ 1061 00:57:08,770 --> 00:57:11,600 She always said to me go out and have a life. 1062 00:57:11,635 --> 00:57:14,465 You don't just have to get married, there are alternatives. 1063 00:57:14,500 --> 00:57:18,020 ♪ It's so easy to fall in love ♪ 1064 00:57:18,607 --> 00:57:22,059 ♪ It's so easy to fall in love ♪ 1065 00:57:23,785 --> 00:57:26,891 I have to confess, I got a really bad crush on this guy. 1066 00:57:28,099 --> 00:57:30,895 We had a little romance for a while but it wasn't long lived. 1067 00:57:30,930 --> 00:57:32,863 He dumped me for this pig. 1068 00:57:32,897 --> 00:57:35,210 Well, at least I got his picture. 1069 00:57:37,764 --> 00:57:39,766 ♪ Does he love me? ♪ 1070 00:57:39,801 --> 00:57:41,941 ♪ I want to know ♪ 1071 00:57:41,975 --> 00:57:45,634 ♪ How can I tell if he loves me so? ♪ 1072 00:57:45,669 --> 00:57:47,602 ♪ Is it in his eyes? ♪ 1073 00:57:47,636 --> 00:57:49,742 ♪ Oh no, you make believe ♪ 1074 00:57:49,776 --> 00:57:51,813 ♪ Is it in his size ♪ 1075 00:57:51,847 --> 00:57:53,918 ♪ Oh no You'll be deceived ♪ 1076 00:57:53,953 --> 00:57:57,922 ♪ If you want to know if he loves you so ♪ 1077 00:57:57,957 --> 00:57:59,786 ♪ It's in his kiss ♪ 1078 00:57:59,821 --> 00:58:01,616 ♪ That's where it is ♪ 1079 00:58:01,961 --> 00:58:05,620 ANNOUNCER: To present the nominees for favorite female 1080 00:58:05,654 --> 00:58:10,832 in rock and pop are Teddy Pendergrass and Tanya Tucker. 1081 00:58:11,108 --> 00:58:13,524 The nominees are: Linda Ronstadt. 1082 00:58:16,596 --> 00:58:18,322 Ms. Barbara Streisand. 1083 00:58:20,980 --> 00:58:22,222 And Donna Summer. 1084 00:58:23,603 --> 00:58:24,639 You open the envelope. 1085 00:58:24,673 --> 00:58:25,778 I'm too nervous. 1086 00:58:25,812 --> 00:58:28,263 I'll do the gentlemanly thing here and I'll open it. 1087 00:58:28,297 --> 00:58:30,886 - If you will read. - Okay. And the winner is... 1088 00:58:30,921 --> 00:58:32,060 Linda Ronstadt. 1089 00:58:36,582 --> 00:58:38,204 Linda was the queen. 1090 00:58:38,238 --> 00:58:40,620 She was like what Beyoncé is now. 1091 00:58:42,657 --> 00:58:45,280 She was the first female rock and roll star. 1092 00:58:45,729 --> 00:58:47,765 ♪ Want love? ♪ 1093 00:58:49,180 --> 00:58:51,113 ♪ Get closer ♪ 1094 00:58:52,045 --> 00:58:54,082 HILBURN: She was the only female artist the have 1095 00:58:54,116 --> 00:58:59,225 five platinum albums in a row and most of them multi-platinum. 1096 00:58:59,950 --> 00:59:02,090 ♪ Hold my hand ♪ 1097 00:59:03,298 --> 00:59:05,990 For favorite female in rock and pop... 1098 00:59:06,025 --> 00:59:07,233 Favorite country single... 1099 00:59:07,267 --> 00:59:09,338 Blue Bayou by Linda Ronstadt. 1100 00:59:09,373 --> 00:59:11,237 - And the winner is... - Takes another one. 1101 00:59:11,271 --> 00:59:14,309 - Linda Ronstadt. - The winner is Linda Ronstadt. 1102 00:59:14,896 --> 00:59:18,313 ♪ You make a fuss when her eyes ain't on you ♪ 1103 00:59:18,347 --> 00:59:21,903 ♪ Well give us something to look forward to ♪ 1104 00:59:21,937 --> 00:59:25,216 ♪ Remember all those other girls who ran ♪ 1105 00:59:25,838 --> 00:59:28,357 RONSTADT: The nature of being a pop musician is that you get 1106 00:59:28,392 --> 00:59:30,187 these things that are successful 1107 00:59:30,221 --> 00:59:32,292 and you have to sing them for the rest of your life. 1108 00:59:32,327 --> 00:59:33,949 Over and over and over again and they start sounding 1109 00:59:33,984 --> 00:59:35,848 like your washing machine. 1110 00:59:38,436 --> 00:59:41,405 I didn't like singing in big arenas because the sound 1111 00:59:41,439 --> 00:59:44,684 was like, you know, you'd hear the guitar solo that 1112 00:59:44,719 --> 00:59:47,273 they played last week still ringing around the rafters. 1113 00:59:49,827 --> 00:59:52,312 So I started looking for other things to do. 1114 00:59:56,972 --> 00:59:59,941 COODER: There is this feeling that she has about the music itself 1115 00:59:59,975 --> 01:00:02,288 rather than the career itself. 1116 01:00:02,322 --> 01:00:05,912 You know, some people are just hardcore careerists. 1117 01:00:06,119 --> 01:00:07,949 There's nothing wrong with that. 1118 01:00:08,674 --> 01:00:12,022 You know, it's how your mind works that makes the difference. 1119 01:00:12,056 --> 01:00:15,888 It's how you see yourself or how you see yourself in the world, 1120 01:00:15,922 --> 01:00:16,958 you know. 1121 01:00:16,992 --> 01:00:20,340 And not everybody's a pure art for art's sake 1122 01:00:20,375 --> 01:00:22,342 and not everybody's a pure careerist either, 1123 01:00:22,377 --> 01:00:23,481 especially in music 1124 01:00:23,516 --> 01:00:27,071 because musicians love music or they wouldn't do it. 1125 01:00:30,074 --> 01:00:31,766 HILBURN: She wanted to change. 1126 01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:34,182 She got tired of doing arena rock, 1127 01:00:34,216 --> 01:00:36,115 she wanted to try different things. 1128 01:00:38,048 --> 01:00:40,222 RONSTADT: I picked up the phone and called my great friend John Rockwell 1129 01:00:40,257 --> 01:00:43,329 who writes music criticism for the New York Times. 1130 01:00:44,364 --> 01:00:46,884 I said I hate playing these big sporting arenas. 1131 01:00:46,919 --> 01:00:49,646 It's not good for the audience, it's not good for the band. 1132 01:00:49,887 --> 01:00:53,097 I want to sing in a theater with a proscenium and a curtain. 1133 01:00:53,511 --> 01:00:55,306 He said well the next time you come to New York 1134 01:00:55,341 --> 01:00:58,309 I'll take you down to meet this fellow named Joseph Papp. 1135 01:00:58,793 --> 01:01:00,933 He has a theater, it's called the New York Public Theater 1136 01:01:00,967 --> 01:01:04,074 and he does Shakespeare and he does musicals; he did Hair. 1137 01:01:04,764 --> 01:01:07,077 He wanted to do The Pirates of Penzance. 1138 01:01:07,767 --> 01:01:10,045 My mom was a Gilbert and Sullivan lover. 1139 01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:13,393 She had a big book of Gilbert and Sullivan songs on the piano. 1140 01:01:14,015 --> 01:01:17,984 And I actually learned all the soprano parts as a kid. 1141 01:01:18,433 --> 01:01:20,400 And I loved singing them 1142 01:01:20,435 --> 01:01:22,989 but I never got a chance to in rock and roll. 1143 01:01:23,749 --> 01:01:26,959 HILBURN: That was in her roots, that was in her upbringing, 1144 01:01:26,993 --> 01:01:30,687 it was part of her authentic musical experience. 1145 01:01:31,998 --> 01:01:34,173 RONSTADT: Joe called me and said if I wanted to do the part 1146 01:01:34,207 --> 01:01:35,726 I could have it. 1147 01:01:35,761 --> 01:01:37,245 And I said no I have to come and audition 1148 01:01:37,279 --> 01:01:39,350 because I didn't know whether I could sing it or not. 1149 01:01:40,179 --> 01:01:43,044 She wanted to be certain that she would do it well. 1150 01:01:43,285 --> 01:01:45,218 They thought being able to say Linda Ronstadt's in it 1151 01:01:45,253 --> 01:01:47,186 would be good for business. 1152 01:01:47,220 --> 01:01:50,258 But her concern was whether it would be good for the show. 1153 01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:56,989 SOUTHER: I was there for several rehearsals and she was fabulous. 1154 01:01:57,023 --> 01:01:59,405 She just grabbed it by the horns and... 1155 01:02:04,997 --> 01:02:06,446 RONSTADT: That was the first job I was ever offered 1156 01:02:06,481 --> 01:02:07,758 where I actually got to sing like that. 1157 01:02:07,793 --> 01:02:10,450 I was delighted, I really was. But I can't do it very well yet. 1158 01:02:10,485 --> 01:02:12,280 Because it's really hard. You can't learn that overnight. 1159 01:02:12,314 --> 01:02:14,938 - You got to be in training. - In training, yup. 1160 01:02:18,562 --> 01:02:22,946 GEFFEN: Linda had a great voice and she had a great vision for herself 1161 01:02:22,980 --> 01:02:26,466 and she didn't want to just be singing rock and roll, 1162 01:02:26,501 --> 01:02:28,089 she wanted to do everything. 1163 01:02:28,468 --> 01:02:31,817 ♪ Hold, monsters! ♪ 1164 01:02:32,162 --> 01:02:34,509 ♪ Ere your pirate Caravanserai ♪ 1165 01:02:34,543 --> 01:02:38,444 ♪ Proceed, against our will to wed us all ♪ 1166 01:02:39,100 --> 01:02:43,414 ♪ Just bear in mind that we Are Wards in Chancery ♪ 1167 01:02:43,449 --> 01:02:47,453 ♪ And father is a Major-General ♪ 1168 01:02:47,487 --> 01:02:49,558 KEVIN KLINE: I knew some of her songs, sure. 1169 01:02:49,593 --> 01:02:52,182 But operetta? 1170 01:02:52,423 --> 01:02:53,873 ♪ Prepare! ♪ 1171 01:02:53,908 --> 01:02:59,568 ♪ Unhappy General Stanley ♪ 1172 01:02:59,603 --> 01:03:01,847 A week into rehearsal we all sang through the score 1173 01:03:01,950 --> 01:03:04,125 just sitting in a circle in chairs 1174 01:03:04,159 --> 01:03:08,232 and when I heard her voice it was just 1175 01:03:08,267 --> 01:03:14,825 this belle canto soprano gorgeous musical, 1176 01:03:16,275 --> 01:03:19,623 celestial yet earthy, just pure, 1177 01:03:19,657 --> 01:03:22,177 something so pure, it just made me cry. 1178 01:03:22,212 --> 01:03:24,352 I just remember just listening to that voice, 1179 01:03:24,386 --> 01:03:27,044 it was just singing that stuff... 1180 01:03:29,909 --> 01:03:30,979 Touching. 1181 01:03:31,946 --> 01:03:33,223 ♪ Oh, sisters, Deaf to pity's name ♪ 1182 01:03:33,257 --> 01:03:34,949 ♪ For shame! ♪ 1183 01:03:34,983 --> 01:03:37,089 ♪ It's true that he has Gone astray ♪ 1184 01:03:37,123 --> 01:03:38,849 ♪ But pray ♪ 1185 01:03:38,884 --> 01:03:41,231 ♪ Is that a reason Good and true ♪ 1186 01:03:41,265 --> 01:03:42,404 ♪ Why you ♪ 1187 01:03:42,439 --> 01:03:48,963 ♪ Should all be deaf To pity's name? ♪ 1188 01:03:49,342 --> 01:03:51,517 BROWNE: Gilbert and Sullivan? Really? 1189 01:03:51,551 --> 01:03:54,865 A rock star who has the guts to go out there 1190 01:03:54,900 --> 01:03:58,213 and do that kind of musical comedy. 1191 01:03:58,248 --> 01:03:59,352 She just didn't care. 1192 01:03:59,387 --> 01:04:02,562 To her it was like a mountain to climb. 1193 01:04:18,302 --> 01:04:20,926 PARTON: Linda can bring herself to sing anything. 1194 01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:24,584 She could sing opera, she could do anything with her voice. 1195 01:04:24,619 --> 01:04:26,310 I couldn't do all that. 1196 01:04:39,151 --> 01:04:41,015 RONSTADT: Kevin Kline and I were both nominated 1197 01:04:41,049 --> 01:04:42,568 for Tony Awards for that show. 1198 01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:44,535 Kevin deserved it more than I did. 1199 01:04:44,570 --> 01:04:46,468 All I did was walk around and sing. 1200 01:04:53,406 --> 01:04:55,581 My mom died during Pirates of Penzance. 1201 01:04:57,514 --> 01:04:59,481 I wasn't with her when she died. 1202 01:04:59,516 --> 01:05:02,001 And I just couldn't quite get it through my head 1203 01:05:02,036 --> 01:05:03,278 that she was gone out of the world 1204 01:05:03,313 --> 01:05:05,211 and I was never going to see her again. 1205 01:05:07,973 --> 01:05:10,216 She'd had all these records -- Louis Armstrong, 1206 01:05:10,251 --> 01:05:12,046 Ella Fitzgerald, 1207 01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:14,151 Billie Holiday, Peggy Lee. 1208 01:05:14,186 --> 01:05:16,913 And I thought I'd like to try to sing some of those songs. 1209 01:05:17,189 --> 01:05:22,297 SINATRA: ♪ Only the lonely ♪ 1210 01:05:22,332 --> 01:05:25,507 When we lived together almost every evening the last record 1211 01:05:25,542 --> 01:05:27,475 we listened to was a Frank Sinatra album 1212 01:05:27,509 --> 01:05:29,580 called Songs for Only the Lonely. 1213 01:05:29,615 --> 01:05:31,962 With Nelson Riddle arranging. 1214 01:05:34,413 --> 01:05:38,313 JOE SMITH: Constantly people were telling Linda you can't do this. 1215 01:05:38,658 --> 01:05:40,039 I'm guilty. 1216 01:05:40,074 --> 01:05:42,731 When she was going to do the Nelson Riddle album 1217 01:05:42,766 --> 01:05:45,217 I didn't think it was a good idea, 1218 01:05:45,251 --> 01:05:47,115 not because she couldn't do it 1219 01:05:47,150 --> 01:05:50,670 but because we had this run going with rock and roll records 1220 01:05:50,705 --> 01:05:52,224 and country rock. 1221 01:05:53,708 --> 01:05:55,503 RONSTADT: I said I'd like to find somebody that can write arrangements 1222 01:05:55,537 --> 01:05:56,953 like Nelson Riddle. 1223 01:05:57,332 --> 01:06:00,094 They said why don't you just ask Nelson Riddle? 1224 01:06:00,715 --> 01:06:03,166 Well I didn't know he was still alive. 1225 01:06:03,442 --> 01:06:05,582 You were the only person that I knew that could do 1226 01:06:05,616 --> 01:06:07,342 orchestrations like this. 1227 01:06:07,377 --> 01:06:08,654 I didn't know where you were, 1228 01:06:08,688 --> 01:06:10,587 whether you'd be interested in working with me. 1229 01:06:10,621 --> 01:06:12,520 Whether you'd ever heard of me or not. 1230 01:06:12,554 --> 01:06:14,246 And as soon as I started learning the songs 1231 01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:15,626 they just got inside me. 1232 01:06:15,661 --> 01:06:17,249 I wanted to record them and I wanted to do it 1233 01:06:17,283 --> 01:06:19,182 worse than anything I've ever wanted to do. 1234 01:06:19,216 --> 01:06:20,562 RIDDLE: I remember your phrase for this. 1235 01:06:20,597 --> 01:06:24,290 You said these are songs I cannot not do. 1236 01:06:24,325 --> 01:06:25,671 I can't not do them. 1237 01:06:25,705 --> 01:06:28,432 At some point it's like falling in love. 1238 01:06:28,467 --> 01:06:30,089 Choice doesn't even enter into it. 1239 01:06:30,124 --> 01:06:33,196 ♪ What's new? ♪ 1240 01:06:34,093 --> 01:06:37,407 ♪ How is the world ♪ 1241 01:06:38,615 --> 01:06:41,307 ♪ Treating you? ♪ 1242 01:06:42,412 --> 01:06:44,621 I would think oh my God, how can I sing these songs? 1243 01:06:44,655 --> 01:06:47,141 Ella Fitzgerald has sung them, Billie Holiday has sing them, 1244 01:06:47,175 --> 01:06:49,074 Frank Sinatra has sung them. 1245 01:06:50,868 --> 01:06:53,699 ♪ Handsome as ever ♪ 1246 01:06:55,218 --> 01:06:57,047 SOUTHER: She studied all of those records 1247 01:06:57,082 --> 01:06:59,705 and she studied every available version she could find 1248 01:06:59,739 --> 01:07:01,396 of each one of those songs. 1249 01:07:01,431 --> 01:07:03,364 She is a real student. 1250 01:07:03,398 --> 01:07:06,091 ♪ What's new? ♪ 1251 01:07:06,436 --> 01:07:10,336 ♪ How did that romance ♪ 1252 01:07:10,785 --> 01:07:12,787 ♪ Come through? ♪ 1253 01:07:13,270 --> 01:07:16,239 ASHER: She told she wanted to get those songs out of the elevator. 1254 01:07:16,273 --> 01:07:19,104 She meant that that's the only place you heard them. 1255 01:07:19,138 --> 01:07:22,314 And she wanted to point out that that's not where they belong. 1256 01:07:22,348 --> 01:07:24,454 They were some of the best songs ever written. 1257 01:07:24,488 --> 01:07:28,561 ♪ Why am I asking what's new? ♪ 1258 01:07:29,907 --> 01:07:33,152 SMITH: I went to her house and tried to talk her out of it but 1259 01:07:33,187 --> 01:07:36,328 as soon as she told me Nelson Riddle was going to do it, 1260 01:07:36,362 --> 01:07:39,538 I said well I'd like to come to the record session. 1261 01:07:49,168 --> 01:07:50,894 RONSTADT: When my sister was in high school she got to go 1262 01:07:50,928 --> 01:07:53,310 to her senior prom and she got to wear these strapless dresses 1263 01:07:53,345 --> 01:07:54,691 with a lot of tool 1264 01:07:54,725 --> 01:07:56,865 and I always wanted one of those dresses. 1265 01:07:58,798 --> 01:08:00,697 By the time I got to high school 1266 01:08:00,731 --> 01:08:03,148 styles had changed and I never got to have one. 1267 01:08:03,182 --> 01:08:04,666 So I said I'm going to put a show together, 1268 01:08:04,701 --> 01:08:06,703 we're all going to get to wear those dresses. 1269 01:08:07,359 --> 01:08:10,810 ♪ So dream ♪ 1270 01:08:11,570 --> 01:08:15,091 ♪ Dream ♪ 1271 01:08:15,884 --> 01:08:18,542 ♪ Dream ♪ 1272 01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:25,894 JOHNNY CARSON: This is a real treat tonight. 1273 01:08:25,929 --> 01:08:27,862 We have three marvelous singers on the show 1274 01:08:27,896 --> 01:08:30,727 and would you know how many times they have been nominated 1275 01:08:30,761 --> 01:08:32,177 for Grammys between them? 1276 01:08:32,211 --> 01:08:33,799 Forty-five times in total. 1277 01:08:38,252 --> 01:08:40,219 The albums they've all sold are in the multi-millions 1278 01:08:40,254 --> 01:08:42,428 and I guess it's taken the ladies about ten years 1279 01:08:42,463 --> 01:08:44,603 to get this together where they wanted to work together 1280 01:08:44,637 --> 01:08:48,676 and made an album called Trio and it was well worth the time. 1281 01:08:48,710 --> 01:08:50,919 The album is described as old-timey but it's sensational. 1282 01:08:50,954 --> 01:08:52,783 Would you welcome Linda Ronstadt, Dolly Parton, 1283 01:08:52,818 --> 01:08:53,922 Emmylou Harris? 1284 01:09:01,999 --> 01:09:03,484 RONSTADT: I had met Dolly. 1285 01:09:03,518 --> 01:09:05,348 I saw her singing on the Grand Ole Opry 1286 01:09:05,382 --> 01:09:06,659 and she was a wonder to behold. 1287 01:09:06,694 --> 01:09:09,490 What you have in front of you is one of the most beautiful girls 1288 01:09:09,524 --> 01:09:10,663 you've ever seen. 1289 01:09:10,698 --> 01:09:12,389 She's just gorgeous. 1290 01:09:13,390 --> 01:09:14,633 When she opened her mouth and started to sing 1291 01:09:14,667 --> 01:09:15,772 I fell on the floor. 1292 01:09:15,806 --> 01:09:17,670 She's an amazing singer. 1293 01:09:17,705 --> 01:09:19,603 ♪ Jolene, Jolene ♪ 1294 01:09:19,638 --> 01:09:22,537 ♪ Jolene, Jolene ♪ 1295 01:09:22,951 --> 01:09:27,715 ♪ I'm begging of you Please don't take my man ♪ 1296 01:09:29,337 --> 01:09:30,787 RONSTADT: I told Emmylou about her 1297 01:09:30,821 --> 01:09:32,720 and then Emmy met her somehow. 1298 01:09:32,754 --> 01:09:34,515 ♪ Jolene ♪ 1299 01:09:34,549 --> 01:09:38,381 HARRIS: When I made my first trip to Nashville the powers that be 1300 01:09:38,415 --> 01:09:41,280 set up a meeting with Dolly and she was making a record 1301 01:09:41,315 --> 01:09:44,525 in her studio and it was like unbelievable. 1302 01:09:44,559 --> 01:09:47,390 It was better than any Disneyland visit. 1303 01:09:47,424 --> 01:09:49,702 ♪ Eyes of emerald green ♪ 1304 01:09:49,737 --> 01:09:51,704 PARTON: They kind of found my music somewhere 1305 01:09:51,739 --> 01:09:54,017 and kind of wanted to meet me 1306 01:09:54,051 --> 01:09:56,330 and that's kind of how we all started. 1307 01:09:57,331 --> 01:09:59,367 RONSTADT: Emmy called me up and she's like Dolly Parton's at my house, 1308 01:09:59,402 --> 01:10:00,989 you have to come over. 1309 01:10:01,024 --> 01:10:02,784 I was living like 40 minutes away 1310 01:10:02,819 --> 01:10:04,510 and I got there in 20 minutes. 1311 01:10:04,545 --> 01:10:07,755 She came over and there we were, the three of us 1312 01:10:07,789 --> 01:10:10,240 and we were there with our idol Dolly. 1313 01:10:10,275 --> 01:10:12,518 They had this big old house, almost like a bunch of hippies 1314 01:10:12,553 --> 01:10:15,003 just living up there, different people and musicians. 1315 01:10:15,038 --> 01:10:16,626 They had different bedrooms. 1316 01:10:16,660 --> 01:10:18,593 It was just a free-for-all kind of house. 1317 01:10:18,628 --> 01:10:20,423 A dream for musicians. 1318 01:10:20,457 --> 01:10:23,943 And somebody said well sing something. 1319 01:10:23,978 --> 01:10:27,878 ♪ Bury me beneath the willow ♪ 1320 01:10:27,913 --> 01:10:30,881 ♪ Under the whipping willow Tree ♪ 1321 01:10:30,916 --> 01:10:35,541 ♪ So he may know Where I am sleeping ♪ 1322 01:10:35,576 --> 01:10:38,717 ♪ And perhaps He'll weep for me ♪ 1323 01:10:38,751 --> 01:10:40,028 So I started singing that 1324 01:10:40,063 --> 01:10:41,720 and then they started saying sing that again. 1325 01:10:41,754 --> 01:10:43,342 I go "Oh, bury me..." 1326 01:10:43,377 --> 01:10:44,999 And here come all these harmonies 1327 01:10:45,033 --> 01:10:47,657 and oh it was just chilling, chilling, chilling. 1328 01:10:47,691 --> 01:10:49,797 ♪ Beneath the willow ♪ 1329 01:10:49,831 --> 01:10:53,766 ♪ Under the weeping willow Tree ♪ 1330 01:10:53,801 --> 01:10:59,013 ♪ Well he may know Where I am sleeping ♪ 1331 01:10:59,047 --> 01:11:02,913 ♪ And perhaps He'll weep for me ♪ 1332 01:11:02,948 --> 01:11:04,915 When we heard our voices 1333 01:11:04,950 --> 01:11:08,471 it was like injecting some kind of serum into your veins. 1334 01:11:08,505 --> 01:11:10,611 It was like a high like you've never felt. 1335 01:11:10,645 --> 01:11:12,578 We sang first in a living room 1336 01:11:12,613 --> 01:11:14,028 and said well this sounds really good. 1337 01:11:14,062 --> 01:11:15,512 It was special, it was different. 1338 01:11:15,547 --> 01:11:20,621 It was like a sound of sisters, musical sisters. 1339 01:11:20,655 --> 01:11:25,867 ♪ Won't you bury me Beneath the willow ♪ 1340 01:11:25,902 --> 01:11:29,802 ♪ Under the weeping willow Tree ♪ 1341 01:11:29,837 --> 01:11:32,391 ♪ Where he may know where... ♪ 1342 01:11:32,426 --> 01:11:35,636 At that moment we thought we have to do a record. 1343 01:11:37,707 --> 01:11:41,055 ♪ To know know know him ♪ 1344 01:11:41,366 --> 01:11:45,956 ♪ Is to love love love him ♪ 1345 01:11:45,991 --> 01:11:50,098 ♪ Just to see him smile ♪ 1346 01:11:50,133 --> 01:11:54,310 ♪ Makes my life worthwhile ♪ 1347 01:11:55,518 --> 01:11:57,451 RONSTADT: We learned so much about singing from each other 1348 01:11:57,485 --> 01:11:59,418 because you get to sort of be them for a second 1349 01:11:59,453 --> 01:12:00,902 when you're shadowing them in harmony. 1350 01:12:00,937 --> 01:12:04,147 It's like getting on an eagle and getting to see the world 1351 01:12:04,181 --> 01:12:06,494 through that eagle's experience. 1352 01:12:06,529 --> 01:12:08,151 I get to sing through Dolly's voice 1353 01:12:08,185 --> 01:12:10,878 or sing through Emmy's voice when I sing real close harmony. 1354 01:12:10,912 --> 01:12:12,569 ♪ Why ♪ 1355 01:12:13,708 --> 01:12:17,781 ♪ Can't he see me? ♪ 1356 01:12:18,782 --> 01:12:22,545 ♪ How I... ♪ 1357 01:12:22,579 --> 01:12:25,444 The only big disagreements would be are we going to use autoharp 1358 01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:27,584 or dulcimer on this song. 1359 01:12:29,206 --> 01:12:30,898 Sometimes we would disagree about who would sing lead 1360 01:12:30,932 --> 01:12:32,658 because Emmy and I always wanted Dolly 1361 01:12:32,693 --> 01:12:34,039 to sing lead on everything. 1362 01:12:34,073 --> 01:12:36,075 Oh, well Dolly will sound great on that. 1363 01:12:36,110 --> 01:12:38,388 You sing lead! No, you sing lead! 1364 01:12:40,459 --> 01:12:42,530 PARTON: Linda is such a perfectionist. 1365 01:12:42,565 --> 01:12:44,049 She's a pain in the ass sometimes 1366 01:12:44,083 --> 01:12:46,431 because she is such a perfectionist. 1367 01:12:46,465 --> 01:12:48,743 Because she will not have it unless it's perfect. 1368 01:12:48,778 --> 01:12:51,539 She used to make me sing those harmonies over and over 1369 01:12:51,574 --> 01:12:54,784 and I said I'm going to sing it the same way no matter what. 1370 01:12:54,818 --> 01:12:56,958 No, you're not! You're going to hit this one note. 1371 01:12:56,993 --> 01:12:59,789 And see I don't know how to, all those intricate harmonies 1372 01:12:59,823 --> 01:13:01,446 like Emmylou and Linda do. 1373 01:13:01,480 --> 01:13:03,965 I just sing that raw stuff from feeling 1374 01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:07,244 and it ain't always proper but it sounds good. 1375 01:13:07,279 --> 01:13:10,972 ♪ Yes just to know ♪ 1376 01:13:11,007 --> 01:13:15,080 ♪ Is to love love love him ♪ 1377 01:13:15,114 --> 01:13:19,740 ♪ And I do ♪ 1378 01:13:22,018 --> 01:13:24,917 INTERVIEWER: Linda, you've sing just about all types of music. 1379 01:13:24,952 --> 01:13:28,231 Light opera; you've been on Broadway, rock and roll, pop. 1380 01:13:28,265 --> 01:13:30,509 What's your next project going to be? 1381 01:13:30,544 --> 01:13:32,718 I'm going to do an album of Mexican music, 1382 01:13:32,753 --> 01:13:33,719 of traditional Mexican music. 1383 01:13:33,754 --> 01:13:36,446 I'm kind of a traditional Mexican myself. 1384 01:13:36,481 --> 01:13:38,690 You know, I grew up about 40 minutes from the Mexican border, 1385 01:13:38,724 --> 01:13:41,727 my family are Mexican, and that is my roots. 1386 01:13:41,762 --> 01:13:44,592 That's what I came from and I have been dying to do 1387 01:13:44,627 --> 01:13:46,042 this record for years and years 1388 01:13:46,076 --> 01:13:47,630 and I'm getting around to it this year. 1389 01:13:47,664 --> 01:13:49,770 Boy, I'm going o do it. 1390 01:13:56,984 --> 01:13:59,883 SOUTHER: Our neighbor that lived behind us in the garage apartment 1391 01:13:59,918 --> 01:14:02,610 was Harry Dean Stanton, great character actor 1392 01:14:02,645 --> 01:14:05,544 and a great singer of Mexican folk songs. 1393 01:14:05,993 --> 01:14:08,582 We would hear him up until the wee hours singing 1394 01:14:08,616 --> 01:14:11,550 these Mexican folk songs, these canciones. 1395 01:14:11,585 --> 01:14:15,174 And Linda knew all those songs. 1396 01:14:15,209 --> 01:14:18,108 I don't think people thought of her as... 1397 01:14:18,143 --> 01:14:20,594 as Mexican. 1398 01:14:20,904 --> 01:14:23,631 It certainly never came up. I never heard it. 1399 01:14:23,666 --> 01:14:26,669 I mean, the name Ronstadt is not Hernandez. 1400 01:14:26,703 --> 01:14:28,533 Ronstadt is a German-sounding name. 1401 01:14:28,567 --> 01:14:32,537 No, she's certainly from Mexican heritage 1402 01:14:32,571 --> 01:14:34,884 but it wasn't the most apparent thing. 1403 01:14:34,918 --> 01:14:36,920 RONSTADT: I want to see where you put your D. 1404 01:14:36,955 --> 01:14:39,544 Say ganador. 1405 01:14:39,578 --> 01:14:41,718 Ga... 1406 01:14:41,753 --> 01:14:44,687 The phrasing, Ganador. 1407 01:14:44,721 --> 01:14:46,896 Ganador. 1408 01:14:46,930 --> 01:14:48,760 Ganador. 1409 01:14:48,794 --> 01:14:50,796 - Dor? - Mm-hm. Mm-hm. 1410 01:14:50,831 --> 01:14:53,696 Is it on the roof of your mouth, the back of your teeth or... 1411 01:14:54,213 --> 01:14:57,320 When he asked me if I would sing a harmony on his record 1412 01:14:57,354 --> 01:14:59,149 I was completely delighted 1413 01:14:59,184 --> 01:15:02,567 because you can only learn by doing. I can't... 1414 01:15:03,015 --> 01:15:04,810 there isn't a book you can get, you know, 1415 01:15:04,845 --> 01:15:07,813 how do you learn how to be a singer in Spanish? 1416 01:15:07,848 --> 01:15:09,988 It's always been a dream of mine to make an album 1417 01:15:10,022 --> 01:15:12,956 of these Mexican songs that I learned from my father. 1418 01:15:20,239 --> 01:15:21,965 My father had a beautiful baritone voice. 1419 01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:24,347 He sounded like a cross between Pedro Infante 1420 01:15:24,381 --> 01:15:26,211 and Frank Sinatra. 1421 01:15:27,281 --> 01:15:30,008 Always if there was a dinner party or something he'd get the 1422 01:15:30,042 --> 01:15:33,632 guitar out and he'd just sing and I always would fall asleep 1423 01:15:33,667 --> 01:15:36,877 in somebody's lap listening to my dad sing some beautiful song. 1424 01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:42,261 We always as a family, we always sang in Spanish. 1425 01:15:42,296 --> 01:15:45,333 Even though I didn't understand much of what I was singing, 1426 01:15:45,368 --> 01:15:46,921 it was something that I learned to do. 1427 01:15:46,956 --> 01:15:48,751 It's kind of like lip reading, you know. 1428 01:15:48,785 --> 01:15:51,995 I used to kind of chameleon in harmony along with my father. 1429 01:15:57,725 --> 01:16:01,004 To learn to sing that style as a grown-up professional singer, 1430 01:16:01,039 --> 01:16:02,627 that took some doing. 1431 01:16:30,793 --> 01:16:33,140 I always forget the beginning where I go through the ending 1432 01:16:33,174 --> 01:16:34,728 and it makes it so hard. 1433 01:16:34,762 --> 01:16:36,384 Oh yeah. What was it, this way? 1434 01:16:36,419 --> 01:16:37,938 Is that how you do it? The Latin way. 1435 01:16:37,972 --> 01:16:39,318 Okay, I got it. 1436 01:16:40,941 --> 01:16:42,874 Okay, I'm learning all these new things. 1437 01:16:50,019 --> 01:16:53,022 My dad invited me to go to the Tucson Mariachi Conference 1438 01:16:53,056 --> 01:16:55,990 and that way I got to meet the Mariachi Vargas. 1439 01:16:59,028 --> 01:17:02,100 Those good bands like the Cobre or the Camperos 1440 01:17:02,134 --> 01:17:04,136 or the Mariachi Vargas, you're going to go to a symphony 1441 01:17:04,171 --> 01:17:05,931 and you're not going to find better musicians. 1442 01:17:05,966 --> 01:17:07,899 They're all virtuoso players. 1443 01:17:13,456 --> 01:17:15,354 I picked a couple of songs. 1444 01:17:16,286 --> 01:17:18,392 The band said these songs are very traditional 1445 01:17:18,426 --> 01:17:20,359 and they're very difficult to do. 1446 01:17:21,188 --> 01:17:23,017 I said well, they're the only songs I know 1447 01:17:23,052 --> 01:17:24,950 so we better learn them. 1448 01:17:32,164 --> 01:17:33,959 I went to the president of my record company, 1449 01:17:33,994 --> 01:17:36,375 who's a man who genuinely likes music, and I said look, 1450 01:17:36,410 --> 01:17:38,170 I made all these records for you, they saw this. 1451 01:17:38,205 --> 01:17:39,827 I'm going to do this just for me 1452 01:17:39,862 --> 01:17:40,759 and this might be self-indulgent. 1453 01:17:40,794 --> 01:17:42,174 If it sells two copies I don't care 1454 01:17:42,209 --> 01:17:44,694 but if I can't record this music I'm going to die. 1455 01:17:45,833 --> 01:17:48,008 I don't understand any Spanish. 1456 01:17:48,042 --> 01:17:52,012 I didn't understand how popular those songs were 1457 01:17:52,046 --> 01:17:56,741 but this is a lady who wanted to do it her way 1458 01:17:56,775 --> 01:17:58,535 and who was going to say no? 1459 01:18:31,327 --> 01:18:34,192 HILBURN: Canciones de mi Padre, it's the largest selling 1460 01:18:34,226 --> 01:18:37,126 Spanish language album in the history of the industry. 1461 01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:40,923 That's the whole Linda Ronstadt story right there in a nutshell. 1462 01:18:40,957 --> 01:18:44,098 Linda deciding she wants to do something, 1463 01:18:44,133 --> 01:18:46,825 the record company telling her she can't. 1464 01:18:46,860 --> 01:18:48,931 She goes ahead and does it anyway 1465 01:18:48,965 --> 01:18:53,418 and they jump on board as the thing starts to take off. 1466 01:18:55,006 --> 01:18:57,387 CASADO: Toda la Familia would come and they loved it 1467 01:18:57,422 --> 01:19:00,011 because they were here from Mexico. 1468 01:19:00,045 --> 01:19:03,083 Even though their kids had grown up here 1469 01:19:03,117 --> 01:19:05,154 and become American citizens, 1470 01:19:05,188 --> 01:19:08,226 who is this girl singing songs so beautifully. 1471 01:19:17,407 --> 01:19:19,202 COODER: The fact that she went on and did that 1472 01:19:19,237 --> 01:19:21,411 and did it in such a big way. 1473 01:19:21,618 --> 01:19:23,379 It was a brave thing to do. 1474 01:19:23,413 --> 01:19:25,139 Many people would have been terrified 1475 01:19:25,174 --> 01:19:26,969 I'll mess up my career. 1476 01:19:27,624 --> 01:19:32,388 But obviously she had purpose, personal decision. 1477 01:19:33,354 --> 01:19:34,493 It's good. 1478 01:20:11,910 --> 01:20:14,879 RONSTADT: To have that traditionalism going along on the bus with me 1479 01:20:14,913 --> 01:20:17,157 from town to town where I'd only sung pop music, 1480 01:20:17,191 --> 01:20:19,987 to take that part of the dirt with me, you know, 1481 01:20:20,022 --> 01:20:22,990 the part of the soil of the land where I came from to Cleveland 1482 01:20:23,025 --> 01:20:25,303 and Cincinnati and New York, that was a thrill. 1483 01:20:25,337 --> 01:20:27,374 You should have seen Central Park with, you know, 1484 01:20:27,408 --> 01:20:30,101 close to a million people in it when the mariachi 1485 01:20:30,135 --> 01:20:32,586 got up on stage with their big hats, the place fell out. 1486 01:20:32,620 --> 01:20:35,071 They went nuts. There was such a thing of pride 1487 01:20:35,106 --> 01:20:37,142 that went from the stage to the audience. 1488 01:20:37,177 --> 01:20:38,488 It was just great. 1489 01:20:39,973 --> 01:20:43,286 This song was written by me and my father 1490 01:20:43,321 --> 01:20:45,841 and it's called Lo Siento Mi Vida. 1491 01:20:51,674 --> 01:20:53,918 My dad died when he was 84. 1492 01:20:55,402 --> 01:20:58,543 There was a kind of a peace that happened when he died. 1493 01:21:00,925 --> 01:21:03,099 In the three of four days before he died he was reading to us 1494 01:21:03,134 --> 01:21:06,344 passages from Gabriel Garcia Marquez's book 1495 01:21:06,378 --> 01:21:10,003 Love in the Time of Cholera and it was just a great sharing. 1496 01:21:12,660 --> 01:21:15,111 It was a different experience being with my father 1497 01:21:15,146 --> 01:21:17,389 when he died than it was with my mother. 1498 01:21:18,632 --> 01:21:21,566 I knew I was going to miss him but I accepted it better. 1499 01:21:33,336 --> 01:21:35,925 He had what I would describe as a beautiful death. 1500 01:21:40,309 --> 01:21:42,449 AARON NEVILLE: I'd seen her on TV and I thought she was great 1501 01:21:42,483 --> 01:21:46,004 but when she came to New Orleans she was just 1502 01:21:46,039 --> 01:21:49,974 so down to earth and girl next door thing. 1503 01:21:50,353 --> 01:21:52,321 And just humble. 1504 01:21:53,356 --> 01:21:55,634 She was just a sweet, humble person. 1505 01:21:56,981 --> 01:22:00,122 RONSTADT: I'd been in New Orleans for the World's Fair 1506 01:22:00,156 --> 01:22:01,986 and somebody said well the Neville Brothers are playing 1507 01:22:02,020 --> 01:22:04,022 at some club down in the Quarter. We should go. 1508 01:22:04,057 --> 01:22:06,231 We going to get serious, serious right now. 1509 01:22:06,266 --> 01:22:09,303 I'm going to turn you on to our brother Aaron Neville. 1510 01:22:09,338 --> 01:22:10,546 RONSTADT: Aaron Neville was on stage singing 1511 01:22:10,580 --> 01:22:12,479 this beautiful song Arianne. 1512 01:22:12,513 --> 01:22:14,067 ♪ Arianne is April morning ♪ 1513 01:22:17,277 --> 01:22:21,315 ♪ That comes rippling Through my window ♪ 1514 01:22:21,522 --> 01:22:25,319 ♪ She's the smell of coffee brewing ♪ 1515 01:22:25,630 --> 01:22:29,496 ♪ On a quiet, rainy Sunday ♪ 1516 01:22:29,703 --> 01:22:31,463 NEVILLE: Somebody told me she was in the audience 1517 01:22:31,498 --> 01:22:33,534 so I called her up on stage. 1518 01:22:33,569 --> 01:22:35,433 Sing some doo wop. 1519 01:22:36,089 --> 01:22:37,538 RONSTADT: Usually I'll never do anything like that 1520 01:22:37,573 --> 01:22:39,747 because I like to rehearse everything first. 1521 01:22:39,782 --> 01:22:42,129 But I wasn't going to say no to Aaron Neville. 1522 01:22:42,336 --> 01:22:44,718 NEVILLE: After that I asked for an autograph. 1523 01:22:44,752 --> 01:22:47,376 She said To Aaron, Love, I'll sing with you anytime, 1524 01:22:47,410 --> 01:22:50,275 any place, anywhere in any key. 1525 01:22:50,551 --> 01:22:53,692 [Don't Know Much by Neville and Ronstadt] 1526 01:22:56,661 --> 01:22:58,732 ♪ Look at this face ♪ 1527 01:22:58,766 --> 01:23:00,251 RONSTADT: The next morning I woke up 1528 01:23:00,285 --> 01:23:01,769 and my first thought was boy I like singing 1529 01:23:01,804 --> 01:23:03,461 with Aaron Neville. That sounded pretty good. 1530 01:23:03,495 --> 01:23:05,290 And then I thought, you idiot, everybody sounds good 1531 01:23:05,325 --> 01:23:07,327 when they sing with Aaron Neville. 1532 01:23:08,397 --> 01:23:11,262 I said we got to make a record together and he was up for it. 1533 01:23:11,296 --> 01:23:13,298 ♪ I don't know much ♪ 1534 01:23:14,610 --> 01:23:17,751 ♪ But I know I love you ♪ 1535 01:23:21,272 --> 01:23:26,380 ♪ And that may be All I need to know ♪ 1536 01:23:27,761 --> 01:23:30,591 NEVILLE: There were all kind of rumors going on... 1537 01:23:31,661 --> 01:23:34,733 They say oh Linda and Aaron got married or whatever. 1538 01:23:35,424 --> 01:23:37,046 Just crazy stuff. 1539 01:23:37,081 --> 01:23:39,531 ♪ Look at these dreams ♪ 1540 01:23:40,084 --> 01:23:44,329 ♪ So beaten And so battered ♪ 1541 01:23:44,364 --> 01:23:46,435 ♪ I don't know much ♪ 1542 01:23:46,469 --> 01:23:48,575 NEVILLE: The producer told us if you don't make it look real 1543 01:23:48,609 --> 01:23:52,096 ain't no sense doing it. So we had to make it look real. 1544 01:23:54,546 --> 01:23:58,757 ♪ That may be All there is ♪ 1545 01:23:59,482 --> 01:24:02,623 ♪ To know ♪ 1546 01:24:05,247 --> 01:24:09,596 At the studio I said I'll see you at the Grammys. 1547 01:24:14,532 --> 01:24:17,086 I had a speech but 1548 01:24:18,398 --> 01:24:21,642 Too nervous. I just want to say thank you to Linda first. 1549 01:24:22,712 --> 01:24:24,507 And my wife Joelle. 1550 01:24:26,923 --> 01:24:28,753 RONSTADT: Aaron and I won two Grammys for that record. 1551 01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:33,206 But as time went on there was something really wrong 1552 01:24:33,240 --> 01:24:34,655 with my voice. 1553 01:24:36,864 --> 01:24:40,627 I just lost a lot of different colors in my voice. 1554 01:24:41,559 --> 01:24:43,216 There's a lot of things you do in singing. 1555 01:24:43,250 --> 01:24:46,771 You turn your voice to different planes to make different sounds 1556 01:24:46,805 --> 01:24:48,600 and I couldn't do any of that. 1557 01:24:51,810 --> 01:24:54,365 Turned out I had Parkinson's disease. 1558 01:24:56,643 --> 01:24:58,679 Singing is really complex 1559 01:24:58,714 --> 01:25:02,200 and I was made most aware of it by having it vanish. 1560 01:25:03,339 --> 01:25:06,791 I can still sing in my mind but I can't do it physically. 1561 01:25:09,173 --> 01:25:13,142 I sang my last concert on November 7th, 2009. 1562 01:25:13,556 --> 01:25:15,248 It was a Mexican show. 1563 01:25:16,801 --> 01:25:20,770 SOUTHER: Must have been quite a reckoning 1564 01:25:20,805 --> 01:25:23,428 to have this marvelous instrument 1565 01:25:23,463 --> 01:25:25,327 that could always hold the notes, hit the notes 1566 01:25:25,361 --> 01:25:26,949 and shape the notes, 1567 01:25:26,983 --> 01:25:29,710 could no longer hold the notes without quiver. 1568 01:25:31,885 --> 01:25:34,267 But there's a lot of good records with 1569 01:25:34,301 --> 01:25:35,958 her magnificent voice on them 1570 01:25:35,992 --> 01:25:38,754 and I hear her laughing in my head all the time. 1571 01:25:38,788 --> 01:25:40,687 I hear that cackle all the time. 1572 01:25:41,515 --> 01:25:43,448 I'm sort of never without her. 1573 01:25:46,279 --> 01:25:50,421 ASHER: I could imagine not being able to sing for Linda is awful. 1574 01:25:50,835 --> 01:25:56,530 But I also know nobody who could handle that kind of change 1575 01:25:56,565 --> 01:26:00,189 or adjustment in a more logical and thoughtful 1576 01:26:00,224 --> 01:26:02,536 and intelligent way than Linda. 1577 01:26:04,331 --> 01:26:06,540 HARRIS: I don't think she misses going on the road. 1578 01:26:06,816 --> 01:26:09,543 I don't think she misses making records. 1579 01:26:11,338 --> 01:26:14,376 I think she misses singing with her friends 1580 01:26:14,410 --> 01:26:17,379 and singing in the living room with her family. 1581 01:26:19,519 --> 01:26:21,417 There's just no one on the planet 1582 01:26:21,452 --> 01:26:25,594 that ever had or ever will have a voice like Linda's. 1583 01:26:37,606 --> 01:26:39,470 RONSTADT: You know, I'm grateful for the time I had. 1584 01:26:39,504 --> 01:26:43,198 I got to live a lot of my dreams and I feel lucky about it. 1585 01:26:46,028 --> 01:26:48,410 Another person with Parkinson's said that life after death 1586 01:26:48,444 --> 01:26:49,790 isn't the question. 1587 01:26:51,827 --> 01:26:53,691 It's life before death. 1588 01:26:56,418 --> 01:26:57,867 So how are you going to do it? 1589 01:26:59,041 --> 01:27:00,663 How are you going to live? 1590 01:27:57,133 --> 01:27:58,687 Couldn't find a part there. 1591 01:27:58,963 --> 01:28:00,447 Start right there. 1592 01:28:08,490 --> 01:28:10,630 I don't even have that note in my speaking range anymore. 1593 01:28:12,356 --> 01:28:15,704 INTERVIEWER: Before you said you couldn't sing anymore. 1594 01:28:15,738 --> 01:28:17,395 This isn't really singing. 1595 01:28:17,913 --> 01:28:20,812 Believe me, it's a few notes. 1596 01:28:20,847 --> 01:28:23,608 - But it's not really singing. - Are you enjoying it? 1597 01:28:23,643 --> 01:28:25,438 Well, I would enjoy it much more if I could sing 1598 01:28:25,472 --> 01:28:27,405 but I can't let them sing this without me. 1599 01:28:28,164 --> 01:28:29,890 It's a family thing. 1600 01:28:30,512 --> 01:28:32,790 Shall we? You guys ready? 1601 01:29:50,454 --> 01:29:52,456 - Do we get to eat? - Yes. 1602 01:29:52,490 --> 01:29:53,974 Good. 1603 01:29:54,009 --> 01:29:57,426 ♪ I've been cheated ♪ 1604 01:29:57,771 --> 01:30:00,981 ♪ Been mistreated ♪ 1605 01:30:01,499 --> 01:30:06,815 ♪ When will I love be loved? ♪ 1606 01:30:08,748 --> 01:30:11,785 ♪ I've been put down ♪ 1607 01:30:12,199 --> 01:30:15,202 ♪ I've been pushed around ♪ 1608 01:30:15,720 --> 01:30:20,656 ♪ When will I be loved? ♪ 1609 01:30:22,796 --> 01:30:25,903 ♪ When I find a new man ♪ 1610 01:30:26,248 --> 01:30:28,802 ♪ That I want for mine ♪ 1611 01:30:29,769 --> 01:30:32,910 ♪ Always breaks My heart in two ♪ 1612 01:30:32,944 --> 01:30:37,742 ♪ It happens every time ♪ 1613 01:30:38,812 --> 01:30:41,919 ♪ I've been made blue ♪ 1614 01:30:42,195 --> 01:30:45,474 ♪ I've been lied to ♪ 1615 01:30:45,854 --> 01:30:50,962 ♪ When will I be loved? ♪ 1616 01:31:07,185 --> 01:31:10,188 ♪ When I find a new man ♪ 1617 01:31:10,706 --> 01:31:13,744 ♪ That I want for mine ♪ 1618 01:31:14,089 --> 01:31:17,230 ♪ He always breaks My heart in two ♪ 1619 01:31:17,264 --> 01:31:22,062 ♪ It happens every time ♪ 1620 01:31:23,167 --> 01:31:26,170 ♪ I've been cheated ♪ 1621 01:31:26,757 --> 01:31:29,794 ♪ Been mistreated ♪ 1622 01:31:30,208 --> 01:31:35,110 ♪ When will I be loved? ♪ 1623 01:31:37,664 --> 01:31:42,151 ♪ When will I be loved? ♪ 1624 01:31:43,221 --> 01:31:44,602 ♪ Tell me ♪ 1625 01:31:44,637 --> 01:31:47,950 ♪ When will I ♪ 1626 01:31:48,226 --> 01:31:50,021 ♪ Be ♪ 1627 01:31:50,988 --> 01:31:55,889 ♪ Loved? ♪ 1628 01:32:11,387 --> 01:32:14,114 ♪ Where have you gone? ♪ 1629 01:32:14,149 --> 01:32:16,876 ♪ My darling one ♪ 1630 01:32:17,255 --> 01:32:19,844 ♪ Are you on your own? ♪ 1631 01:32:20,362 --> 01:32:22,847 ♪ Are you having fun? ♪ 1632 01:32:23,192 --> 01:32:26,126 ♪ Is there someone to hold ♪ 1633 01:32:26,333 --> 01:32:29,095 ♪ When you need it bad? ♪ 1634 01:32:29,336 --> 01:32:32,201 ♪ Is it controlled? ♪ 1635 01:32:32,616 --> 01:32:37,655 ♪ Like the love we had? ♪ 1636 01:32:38,760 --> 01:32:41,038 ♪ Does the day go by ♪ 1637 01:32:41,728 --> 01:32:44,041 ♪ Like a memory? ♪ 1638 01:32:44,766 --> 01:32:47,596 ♪ Do you ever try ♪ 1639 01:32:47,631 --> 01:32:50,254 ♪ To remember me? ♪ 1640 01:32:50,841 --> 01:32:53,809 ♪ In an automobile ♪ 1641 01:32:53,844 --> 01:32:56,329 ♪ Or a crowded bar ♪ 1642 01:32:56,881 --> 01:32:59,366 ♪ Well I hope You're all right ♪ 1643 01:32:59,953 --> 01:33:04,751 ♪ Wherever you are ♪ 1644 01:33:05,683 --> 01:33:10,170 ♪ If you're still within The sound of my voice ♪ 1645 01:33:10,895 --> 01:33:14,347 ♪ Over some radio ♪ 1646 01:33:14,761 --> 01:33:17,799 ♪ I just want you to know ♪ 1647 01:33:17,833 --> 01:33:22,148 ♪ You were always My only choice ♪ 1648 01:33:23,943 --> 01:33:26,601 ♪ And wherever you go ♪ 1649 01:33:26,877 --> 01:33:29,914 ♪ That I still love you so ♪ 1650 01:33:29,949 --> 01:33:34,816 ♪ If you're still within The sound of my voice ♪ 132898

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