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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:20,312 --> 00:00:23,054 Come on over a minute. Ijust had some ideas that 2 00:00:23,148 --> 00:00:25,184 I’d been thinking about for quite a while, 3 00:00:25,817 --> 00:00:27,307 about modulation. 4 00:00:28,695 --> 00:00:31,437 It seems to me that there are 5 00:00:33,158 --> 00:00:36,992 different themes in life. 6 00:00:39,206 --> 00:00:42,664 And one of my main jobs, it seems to me, 7 00:00:42,751 --> 00:00:46,664 is to help through the mass media, for children... 8 00:00:47,506 --> 00:00:53,001 To help children through some of the difficult modulations of life. 9 00:00:54,012 --> 00:00:57,220 Because it’s easy, for instance, to go from C 10 00:01:00,185 --> 00:01:01,174 to F. 11 00:01:02,729 --> 00:01:05,721 But there are some modulations that aren’t so easy. 12 00:01:05,899 --> 00:01:10,518 For instance, to go from F, to F-sharp, 13 00:01:10,696 --> 00:01:13,654 you’ve got to weave through all sorts of things. 14 00:01:13,991 --> 00:01:16,903 And it seems to me ifyou’ve got somebody to help you, 15 00:01:17,578 --> 00:01:20,445 as you weave... Maybe this is just too philosophical? 16 00:01:20,539 --> 00:01:24,828 Maybe I’m trying to combine things 17 00:01:25,377 --> 00:01:28,039 that can’t be combined, but it makes sense to me. 18 00:01:34,011 --> 00:01:36,878 Fourteen years ago, a television program for children, 19 00:01:36,972 --> 00:01:41,056 made its inauspicious debut on Station WQED in Pittsburgh. 20 00:01:42,019 --> 00:01:43,884 It’s host, Fred Rogers, 21 00:01:44,062 --> 00:01:47,725 an ordained minister with an abiding interest in children, 22 00:01:48,066 --> 00:01:51,604 and an equally abiding belief hat they deserve more from television. 23 00:02:04,583 --> 00:02:07,325 (SINGING) It’s a beautiful day in this neighborhood 24 00:02:07,419 --> 00:02:09,205 A beautiful day for a neighbor 25 00:02:09,296 --> 00:02:13,585 Would you be mine? Could you be mine? 26 00:02:14,134 --> 00:02:17,046 It’s a neighborly day in this beauty Would... 27 00:02:19,222 --> 00:02:23,431 Would you be mine? Could you be mine? 28 00:02:24,019 --> 00:02:29,264 I have always wanted to have a neighbor just like you 29 00:02:29,775 --> 00:02:34,610 I’ve always wanted to live in a neighborhood with you 30 00:02:34,780 --> 00:02:38,739 So, let’s make the most of this beautiful day 31 00:02:38,909 --> 00:02:42,276 Since we’re together we might as well say 32 00:02:42,496 --> 00:02:45,738 Would you be mine? Could you be mine? 33 00:02:45,832 --> 00:02:48,073 Won’t you be my neighbor? 34 00:02:49,294 --> 00:02:52,957 Won’t you please, won’t you please? 35 00:02:53,757 --> 00:02:57,249 Please, won’t you be my neighbor 36 00:02:58,804 --> 00:03:00,294 Mr. Rogers? FRED: Yes. 37 00:03:00,472 --> 00:03:04,306 Where do you live? | live in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. 38 00:03:05,102 --> 00:03:07,309 Did you want to... Pardon me? 39 00:03:07,479 --> 00:03:09,561 NEWSREADER: They are gathered in this television studio 40 00:03:09,648 --> 00:03:10,728 with Fred Rogers, 41 00:03:10,816 --> 00:03:13,774 an adult who cares just about them. 42 00:03:14,027 --> 00:03:17,815 His reward is the love of millions of children. 43 00:03:18,865 --> 00:03:21,026 I want to tell you something. What would you like to tell me? 44 00:03:21,201 --> 00:03:23,738 I like you. I like you, my dear. 45 00:03:23,829 --> 00:03:26,286 Thank you very much for telling me that. 46 00:03:30,544 --> 00:03:32,500 MARGY: We had a director that once said to me, 47 00:03:32,587 --> 00:03:35,420 "Ifyou take all ofthe elements that make good television, 48 00:03:35,632 --> 00:03:39,750 "and do the exact opposite, you have Mister Rogers’ Neighborhood. " 49 00:03:40,470 --> 00:03:45,681 Low production values, simple set, unlikely star. 50 00:03:47,519 --> 00:03:49,976 Yet, it worked... 51 00:03:50,731 --> 00:03:53,848 because he was saying something really important. 52 00:03:57,195 --> 00:03:59,026 FRED: Love is at the root of everything. 53 00:04:00,031 --> 00:04:03,194 All learning, all parenting, 54 00:04:03,869 --> 00:04:05,780 all relationships. 55 00:04:07,247 --> 00:04:09,033 Love or the lack of it. 56 00:04:12,043 --> 00:04:14,830 And what we see and hear 57 00:04:14,921 --> 00:04:18,584 on the screen is part of who we become. 58 00:04:21,178 --> 00:04:24,386 TOM: He had a singular vision of kindness and love, 59 00:04:24,890 --> 00:04:28,929 but a question that I think of a lot in terms of Fred is 60 00:04:29,102 --> 00:04:32,765 whether his attempt to influence America 61 00:04:33,690 --> 00:04:34,930 succeeded or not. 62 00:04:45,035 --> 00:04:49,529 FRED: I was all set to go to the seminary to become a minister, 63 00:04:49,915 --> 00:04:53,874 but I went home my senior year for a vacation 64 00:04:54,044 --> 00:04:57,582 and I saw this new thing called television. 65 00:05:00,592 --> 00:05:04,631 And I saw people throwing pies in each other’s faces. 66 00:05:05,138 --> 00:05:09,598 And I thought, "This could be a wonderful tool. 67 00:05:09,935 --> 00:05:12,472 "Why is it being used this way?" 68 00:05:13,438 --> 00:05:18,023 So I said to my parents, "I don’t think I’ll go to seminary right away. 69 00:05:18,443 --> 00:05:20,775 "I think maybe I’ll go into television." 70 00:05:20,946 --> 00:05:23,528 And they said, "Wait, but you’ve never even seen it." 71 00:05:28,328 --> 00:05:33,789 FEMALE ANNOUNCER: Station WQED is located in the heart of Pittsburgh. 72 00:05:33,875 --> 00:05:37,367 JOANNE ROGERS: His father told him about this new station, 73 00:05:38,129 --> 00:05:39,460 that was coming along here. 74 00:05:39,798 --> 00:05:43,131 It was going to be called... It was called Educational Television. 75 00:05:46,471 --> 00:05:48,553 FRED: Nobody wanted to do a children’s program. 76 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:50,471 I said, "Well, we need a children’s program." 77 00:05:50,851 --> 00:05:54,264 And I said, "Well, I’ll produce it and play some music in the background. 78 00:05:55,146 --> 00:05:59,765 "We’ll get some free films and, Josie, you can introduce them. " 79 00:06:01,278 --> 00:06:04,691 And then we discovered the awful fact 80 00:06:05,323 --> 00:06:07,484 that when you got free film, 81 00:06:08,326 --> 00:06:11,910 it was often brittle and it would break. 82 00:06:12,873 --> 00:06:16,661 And ifyou were on the air live, you had to do something. 83 00:06:17,919 --> 00:06:21,082 Somebody had given me this little tiger puppet. 84 00:06:21,339 --> 00:06:24,831 I pushed it through in the clock and said, 85 00:06:24,926 --> 00:06:30,011 (MIMICKING) "Hi, Josie, it’s 5:02 and Columbus discovered America in 1492," 86 00:06:30,181 --> 00:06:31,796 and then just went right back in. 87 00:06:32,517 --> 00:06:37,477 And that’s how the puppetry began. We never expected to use puppets. 88 00:06:40,525 --> 00:06:42,937 There’s so much of it was 89 00:06:43,028 --> 00:06:46,145 the necessity being the mother of that invention. 90 00:06:47,657 --> 00:06:50,820 My friend, Daniel Striped Tiger. 91 00:06:51,870 --> 00:06:54,282 DANIEL: How do you do? How do you do? 92 00:06:55,874 --> 00:06:58,957 The interesting thing was Dad remembered 93 00:07:00,128 --> 00:07:03,211 being 6 and 7 and 8 and 9 years old. 94 00:07:04,257 --> 00:07:07,545 That inner child never really went away. 95 00:07:09,387 --> 00:07:13,847 FRED: Ihad every imaginable childhood disease, even scarlet fever. 96 00:07:14,392 --> 00:07:17,555 Wheneverl was quarantined 97 00:07:18,104 --> 00:07:19,719 I would be in bed a lot. 98 00:07:20,732 --> 00:07:25,726 I would put up my knees, and they would be mountains covered with the sheet. 99 00:07:26,196 --> 00:07:29,404 I’d have all these little figures moving around 100 00:07:29,574 --> 00:07:31,565 and I’d make them talk. 101 00:07:33,662 --> 00:07:36,950 I had to make up a lot of my own fun. 102 00:07:39,209 --> 00:07:41,416 (EXC LAIMS) Take that. 103 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:45,620 What’s the matter? 104 00:07:45,924 --> 00:07:49,508 Over time Fred became unsatisfied with The Children’s Corner. 105 00:07:49,594 --> 00:07:52,381 He thought that it was simple and slapstick. 106 00:07:52,889 --> 00:07:55,096 And he said he really wanted to concentrate on the seminary, 107 00:07:55,183 --> 00:07:57,174 so he wanted to stop for a while. 108 00:08:02,065 --> 00:08:06,684 JOANNE: His ordination was as an evangelist for television. 109 00:08:07,487 --> 00:08:10,604 It was pretty way out there for the Presbyterian Church. 110 00:08:13,284 --> 00:08:14,774 With television, 111 00:08:14,911 --> 00:08:18,620 Fred wanted to focus on the very young. 112 00:08:20,834 --> 00:08:22,415 FRED: What do you think it is? 113 00:08:22,585 --> 00:08:24,951 KID: A lion! A lion, great! 114 00:08:28,008 --> 00:08:29,464 MAX: Back in the 19503, 115 00:08:29,634 --> 00:08:31,420 there was a school of people 116 00:08:31,511 --> 00:08:33,092 at the University of Pittsburgh, 117 00:08:33,471 --> 00:08:35,632 looking at early childhood educaflon. 118 00:08:46,818 --> 00:08:50,811 SHARAPAN: They felt that physicians needed a training ground. 119 00:08:51,656 --> 00:08:54,898 So that, they had a sense of where human behavior 120 00:08:54,993 --> 00:08:56,984 was coming from the very beginning. 121 00:08:58,204 --> 00:09:00,786 MAX: Dr. Benjamin Spock was part of it. 122 00:09:02,208 --> 00:09:05,041 Berry Brazelton, the famous pediatrician, was a part ofit. 123 00:09:05,295 --> 00:09:08,253 Erik Erikson, the extraordinary psychologist, 124 00:09:08,339 --> 00:09:09,328 was a part ofit, 125 00:09:10,091 --> 00:09:12,002 and Fred’s part of that group. 126 00:09:12,177 --> 00:09:15,840 He became part of the group as a student of Margaret McFarland. 127 00:09:17,474 --> 00:09:20,011 Fred, I think to the child, 128 00:09:20,351 --> 00:09:25,186 the television program between you and the child is a real relationship. 129 00:09:27,692 --> 00:09:31,150 ELIZABETH: For him to say, "The feelings of a young child 130 00:09:31,237 --> 00:09:35,697 "are every bit as powerful as our adult feelings... " 131 00:09:36,367 --> 00:09:40,076 He was radical. I know everyone says that, but he was radical. 132 00:09:41,206 --> 00:09:43,197 I’ve always felt that 133 00:09:44,209 --> 00:09:46,825 I didn’t need to put on a funny hat, 134 00:09:47,378 --> 00:09:48,618 orjump through the hoop 135 00:09:49,589 --> 00:09:51,921 to have a relationship with the child. 136 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,092 So, I went to visit a new nursery school. 137 00:09:57,097 --> 00:09:59,554 I had never met these children before. 138 00:10:01,017 --> 00:10:03,053 And I walked in 139 00:10:03,770 --> 00:10:06,728 and there was a long stare from most of them. 140 00:10:07,357 --> 00:10:10,975 And one little boy by the name of Thatcher spoke first. 141 00:10:11,903 --> 00:10:14,064 And all he said was, 142 00:10:15,198 --> 00:10:20,363 "My doggy’s ear came off in the automatic washer." 143 00:10:21,287 --> 00:10:25,621 And there was silence, just complete silence. 144 00:10:25,792 --> 00:10:30,786 It was as if, "This is your test, Mr. Rogers. 145 00:10:31,089 --> 00:10:34,252 "Are you still in touch with childhood?" 146 00:10:36,094 --> 00:10:38,631 And so I said, 147 00:10:38,972 --> 00:10:42,965 "Sometimes that happens to toys, doesn’t it? 148 00:10:43,768 --> 00:10:45,884 "Their ears come off or their legs come off, 149 00:10:45,979 --> 00:10:48,311 "but that never happens to us. 150 00:10:49,315 --> 00:10:53,649 "Our ears don’t come off. Our noses don’t come off. 151 00:10:54,070 --> 00:10:55,935 "Our arms don’t come off." 152 00:10:56,114 --> 00:11:00,608 Thatcher’s eyes were getting bigger and bigger and bigger, and he said, 153 00:11:00,827 --> 00:11:02,658 "And our legs don’t come off." 154 00:11:03,580 --> 00:11:05,116 And I said, "No, they don’t." 155 00:11:06,791 --> 00:11:09,533 And, immediately, all of the other children 156 00:11:09,627 --> 00:11:12,835 started asking questions and poignant questions! 157 00:11:14,299 --> 00:11:18,417 It was just as if, you know, "We shall now open the door. 158 00:11:18,595 --> 00:11:21,086 "You have passed the test. You may come in." 159 00:11:26,186 --> 00:11:27,972 SHARAPAN: And what he wanted to do 160 00:11:28,146 --> 00:11:32,310 was to take all ofthat he learned in television work, 161 00:11:33,818 --> 00:11:37,151 add to that the sense of ministry, 162 00:11:38,489 --> 00:11:41,231 and the child development background. 163 00:11:41,534 --> 00:11:43,991 It became Mister Rogers' Neighborhood. 164 00:11:52,045 --> 00:11:56,755 MAX: A neighborhood was a place where at times 165 00:11:56,841 --> 00:12:00,675 that you felt worried, scared, unsafe, 166 00:12:01,346 --> 00:12:06,340 would take care of you, would provide understanding, safety. 167 00:12:06,809 --> 00:12:08,674 That’s what the neighborhood was for Fred. 168 00:12:14,025 --> 00:12:16,607 FRED: Television has the chance 169 00:12:17,028 --> 00:12:21,237 of building a real community 170 00:12:23,493 --> 00:12:25,199 out of an entire country. 171 00:12:29,999 --> 00:12:33,412 JUNLEI: The neighborhood is not a fantasy place 172 00:12:33,836 --> 00:12:36,077 where all these different people got together 173 00:12:36,256 --> 00:12:38,463 and everything was happily ever after. 174 00:12:39,384 --> 00:12:43,127 When you have diverse people together with their different opinions, 175 00:12:43,221 --> 00:12:46,213 you have conflict. And that’s what happens in the neighborhood. 176 00:12:46,349 --> 00:12:49,512 You have conflict, real conflict. 177 00:12:52,230 --> 00:12:53,891 Halt, trolley! 178 00:12:54,399 --> 00:12:58,233 Give me your name, rank, and serial number. 179 00:12:59,112 --> 00:13:01,728 FRED: "King Friday the 13th 180 00:13:02,198 --> 00:13:05,406 "establishes border guard. 181 00:13:05,910 --> 00:13:08,947 "King Against Change." 182 00:13:10,873 --> 00:13:14,957 JUNLEI: The parallels between what is happening in the real world 183 00:13:15,128 --> 00:13:17,244 and what is happening inside the neighborhood 184 00:13:17,422 --> 00:13:19,754 are uncanny and undeniable. 185 00:13:23,886 --> 00:13:26,719 In 1968, the country is at war. 186 00:13:26,889 --> 00:13:29,130 He can go on fighting longer than we can. 187 00:13:29,225 --> 00:13:32,683 Frightened, meow, frightened, meow. 188 00:13:33,062 --> 00:13:34,893 There’s nothing to be frightened about 189 00:13:34,981 --> 00:13:37,313 until somebody starts shooting, Hennefia. 190 00:13:38,067 --> 00:13:41,776 (CRYING) Meow-meow, start shooting, meow! 191 00:13:45,658 --> 00:13:47,398 J U N LEI: That was the first time he knew that 192 00:13:47,577 --> 00:13:50,569 he was producing something for a national audience. 193 00:13:50,997 --> 00:13:55,991 King Friday was really irritated that people were changing things. 194 00:13:56,252 --> 00:14:01,622 So, his reaction as the authority was to build a wall. 195 00:14:02,967 --> 00:14:05,674 (SINGING) Oh, it’s very sharp It’s very sharp 196 00:14:05,845 --> 00:14:09,758 Oh, my, barbed wire is very sharp 197 00:14:09,932 --> 00:14:12,298 Remember our battle cry, Edgar? 198 00:14:12,477 --> 00:14:15,014 Down with the changers! 199 00:14:15,521 --> 00:14:18,684 (SINGING) Down with the changers Down with the changers 200 00:14:18,858 --> 00:14:21,474 We don’t want anything to change 201 00:14:21,652 --> 00:14:23,859 'Cause we’re on top! 202 00:14:23,946 --> 00:14:24,935 That’s right. 203 00:14:25,114 --> 00:14:29,232 (SIN GIN G) 'Cause we’re... At least you’re on top 204 00:14:29,619 --> 00:14:32,110 I can’t believe what a broad area we covered. 205 00:14:33,122 --> 00:14:36,489 Edgar, Edgar, what do you think he means by "any trouble"? 206 00:14:36,876 --> 00:14:40,960 Fred didn’t want you ad-libbing, putzing around with the words, 207 00:14:41,214 --> 00:14:44,502 because he was always trying to get a message across in every show. 208 00:14:46,177 --> 00:14:48,964 I want there to be peace in this neighborhood. 209 00:14:49,514 --> 00:14:52,301 It’s been a hard time for everyone. 210 00:14:52,683 --> 00:14:55,891 Well, I really do hope that what you say’|| work. 211 00:14:55,978 --> 00:14:57,843 Do you have the tags on the bottom? 212 00:14:58,022 --> 00:15:00,354 Yes, I put them on. Look,seeifyou like them. 213 00:15:00,483 --> 00:15:02,940 Good. "Love" this one says. 214 00:15:03,361 --> 00:15:06,398 And then we float them over into the castle, 215 00:15:06,739 --> 00:15:10,903 so that Great Uncle Friday will know that the whole neighborhood wants peace. 216 00:15:11,494 --> 00:15:14,657 Paratroopers! Fire the cannon! 217 00:15:14,831 --> 00:15:16,412 Hold it, King Friday. Well, what is it? 218 00:15:16,499 --> 00:15:18,581 They’re not paratroopers. They’re messages of peace. 219 00:15:18,751 --> 00:15:20,332 Look at this, "Tenderness." 220 00:15:20,503 --> 00:15:24,041 Messages of peace? "Peaceful co-existence." 221 00:15:24,382 --> 00:15:25,371 Wait. You see that one was... 222 00:15:25,550 --> 00:15:28,883 They’re peaceful messages, sir. Let us stop all fighting. 223 00:15:29,846 --> 00:15:35,216 Stop a|l fighting now. (CLAPPING) Superb! Superb! 224 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,425 Meow, wonderful, meow! 225 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:41,980 That was the first week. That’s how it got started. 226 00:15:45,653 --> 00:15:48,520 (SINGING) It’s a beautiful day in this neighborhood 227 00:15:48,614 --> 00:15:50,570 A beautiful day for a neighbor 228 00:15:50,741 --> 00:15:54,905 Would you be mine? Could you be mine? 229 00:15:56,914 --> 00:16:00,873 SHARAPAN: From the early days of Mister Rogers’ Neighborhood 230 00:16:01,043 --> 00:16:02,874 until the end ofthat program 231 00:16:03,045 --> 00:16:05,411 he came in the door every day the same way. 232 00:16:07,216 --> 00:16:09,582 Hi. Hello! 233 00:16:10,344 --> 00:16:13,336 And he changed to the sweater to give a sense that 234 00:16:13,431 --> 00:16:15,922 we were going to have this relaxing time together. 235 00:16:16,100 --> 00:16:17,135 VVhoop. 236 00:16:17,226 --> 00:16:18,966 Change the shoes. 237 00:16:24,817 --> 00:16:26,603 Some food for the fish. 238 00:16:29,113 --> 00:16:32,230 Picture, picture on the wall, would you kindly tell us all, 239 00:16:32,408 --> 00:16:34,615 is Mr. McFeely on his way here? 240 00:16:34,785 --> 00:16:37,868 DAVID NEWELL: Myjob was to be the prop person. 241 00:16:37,955 --> 00:16:41,447 And then he said, "Oh, I know you’ve done some acting." 242 00:16:42,460 --> 00:16:45,623 "I’d like you to play the character of the delivery man. " 243 00:16:45,796 --> 00:16:49,084 I must go off, Mr. Rogers. l have a lot of deliveries today in the neighborhood. 244 00:16:49,175 --> 00:16:51,632 So, I became "Mr. McFeely" on the spot. 245 00:16:54,430 --> 00:16:56,671 BlLL ISLER: Trolley left for its house... 246 00:16:57,141 --> 00:17:00,258 FRED: Into the neighborhood of Make-Believe. 247 00:17:01,687 --> 00:17:04,645 Boomerang, toomerang, sumurang! 248 00:17:05,316 --> 00:17:07,557 BlLL: Anything could happen in Make-Believe. 249 00:17:08,110 --> 00:17:11,022 But Make-Believe was not real. I mean, there was a distinction. 250 00:17:11,989 --> 00:17:13,945 Fred never appeared in Make-Believe. 251 00:17:14,325 --> 00:17:16,065 The actors did. The puppets did. 252 00:17:16,661 --> 00:17:20,495 FRED: There’s the clock where Daniel Striped Tiger lives. 253 00:17:22,208 --> 00:17:25,371 Next you see King Friday Xlll’s castle. 254 00:17:25,711 --> 00:17:30,580 King Friday XIII is one of the few remaining benevolent despots. 255 00:17:30,675 --> 00:17:32,165 These characters are... 256 00:17:33,177 --> 00:17:35,839 Were people in his life. 257 00:17:36,222 --> 00:17:39,931 Queen Sara would obviously be my mom. 258 00:17:40,351 --> 00:17:45,436 I’d just like to say what a fine person my husband is. 259 00:17:45,690 --> 00:17:47,646 Why, Sara! 260 00:17:48,859 --> 00:17:51,601 None of us like to think of Lady Elaine as my aunt, 261 00:17:51,696 --> 00:17:53,607 but we wonder about that. 262 00:17:55,658 --> 00:17:57,740 In the beginning, she was a witch. 263 00:17:57,827 --> 00:18:00,569 I heard that. Here’s a squirt. 264 00:18:01,038 --> 00:18:02,528 What can I say? (LAUGHS) 265 00:18:04,542 --> 00:18:09,707 FRED: In a beautiful tree, livedX the Owl and Henrietta Pussycat. 266 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,792 Meow-meow, beautiful day, meow-meow neighborhood. 267 00:18:13,342 --> 00:18:14,422 (BELL DlNGlNG) 268 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,376 SHARAPAN: And then at the end of every program 269 00:18:17,847 --> 00:18:20,429 we came back to Fred’s television house. 270 00:18:20,683 --> 00:18:24,551 And to help children understand all of these experiences, 271 00:18:24,729 --> 00:18:26,845 he put that into a song. 272 00:18:27,398 --> 00:18:30,231 (SINGING) I like you as you are 273 00:18:31,068 --> 00:18:34,151 Exactly and precisely 274 00:18:34,530 --> 00:18:39,399 I think you turned out nicely, and I like you as you are 275 00:18:39,577 --> 00:18:41,738 And children need to hear that. 276 00:18:41,912 --> 00:18:44,198 I don’t think that anybody can grow 277 00:18:44,582 --> 00:18:47,915 unless he really is accepted exactly as he is. 278 00:18:51,047 --> 00:18:52,878 ELIZABETH: I think he was one of those people 279 00:18:52,965 --> 00:18:55,251 who would do their work seriously 280 00:18:55,718 --> 00:18:58,209 and they hope that someone will pick up on 281 00:18:58,387 --> 00:19:00,469 the seriousness of what they’re about. 282 00:19:02,224 --> 00:19:05,057 There were times when he thought, "Will people ever understand that 283 00:19:05,144 --> 00:19:07,886 "l’m notjust a klutzy guy who’s falling around 284 00:19:08,064 --> 00:19:11,431 "in a 50s’ living room with weird curtains?" 285 00:19:12,443 --> 00:19:17,437 WGBH in Boston decided to have something called a "Mister Rogers Day. " 286 00:19:17,865 --> 00:19:21,232 There was just a woman in GBH who was in their PR department 287 00:19:21,410 --> 00:19:24,322 who loved the program, and I think her colleagues said... 288 00:19:25,289 --> 00:19:29,282 You know, I think they thought it was really simple, kind of '503, square. 289 00:19:29,919 --> 00:19:32,331 And she said, "No, I really want to bring him here, 290 00:19:32,421 --> 00:19:34,662 "and lwant families to be able to come and see him." 291 00:19:36,509 --> 00:19:39,125 And the line to get in 292 00:19:39,470 --> 00:19:44,806 was blocks and blocks long before they even opened the doors. 293 00:19:45,935 --> 00:19:48,096 And the word got around really quickly 294 00:19:48,187 --> 00:19:50,974 that there’s something going on with this guy. 295 00:19:53,859 --> 00:19:56,316 KlD: Mr. Rogers, Mr. Rogers. 296 00:19:56,487 --> 00:19:59,320 I like you as you are. 297 00:20:01,867 --> 00:20:05,280 A little boy came up to him and said, 298 00:20:05,830 --> 00:20:09,118 "Mr. Rogers, how did you get out?" 299 00:20:10,292 --> 00:20:12,123 And so he talked to the little boy, 300 00:20:12,211 --> 00:20:14,167 explained what television was all about. 301 00:20:14,338 --> 00:20:18,547 And the little boy’s just taking it all in, going, "Mmm-hmm, mmm-hmm." 302 00:20:19,135 --> 00:20:23,720 And when Fred finished he said the little boy said, 303 00:20:24,348 --> 00:20:26,555 "How are you gonna get back in?" 304 00:20:33,315 --> 00:20:37,024 REV. GEORGE WIRTH: There was a whole spiritual dimension to his work 305 00:20:37,194 --> 00:20:41,153 in the television business to be inclusive. 306 00:20:41,490 --> 00:20:43,196 He did this without ever 307 00:20:43,367 --> 00:20:46,985 identifying himself as a minister. 308 00:20:49,039 --> 00:20:51,200 He didn’t wear a collar. He wore a sweater. 309 00:20:53,169 --> 00:20:56,127 And he preached in that context 310 00:20:57,256 --> 00:21:00,248 in a way more effective than anyone I’ve ever seen, 311 00:21:00,426 --> 00:21:05,011 because it wasn’t a sermon like an oratorical thing. 312 00:21:05,181 --> 00:21:08,799 It was a communication right into their hearts. 313 00:21:13,731 --> 00:21:16,143 MAX: He was a life-long registered Republican 314 00:21:16,901 --> 00:21:20,359 and ifyou look at the values that Mr. Rogers represented, 315 00:21:20,529 --> 00:21:22,235 it’s influenced by his faith. 316 00:21:22,698 --> 00:21:26,566 His Christianity was this kind of wide open Christianity 317 00:21:26,660 --> 00:21:29,777 that was accepting thinking from all other places 318 00:21:30,122 --> 00:21:33,489 while never departing from the Christian faith. 319 00:21:35,377 --> 00:21:39,245 REV. GEORGE WIRTH: Fred’s theology was love your neighbor and love yourself. 320 00:21:40,424 --> 00:21:43,712 And he saw that communication 321 00:21:43,803 --> 00:21:47,216 as the most deeply spiritual thing that he could be doing. 322 00:21:52,436 --> 00:21:56,645 FRED: When I look at the camera, I think of one person. 323 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,858 Not any specific person, but one person. 324 00:22:01,946 --> 00:22:04,437 It’s very, very personal. 325 00:22:07,910 --> 00:22:10,447 The space between the television screen 326 00:22:10,538 --> 00:22:12,950 and whoever happens to be receiving it, 327 00:22:13,332 --> 00:22:15,994 I consider that very holy ground. 328 00:22:17,837 --> 00:22:21,580 A lot happens. A lot happens there. 329 00:22:28,973 --> 00:22:33,592 For somebody that was in television he was just... He hated television. 330 00:22:37,481 --> 00:22:39,722 Here, buddy, it’s all yours. 331 00:22:40,693 --> 00:22:43,810 Wow! Look at this! Hey, what about me? 332 00:22:44,488 --> 00:22:48,606 FRED: In this country, the child is appreciated for what he will be. 333 00:22:49,159 --> 00:22:52,651 He will be a great consumer some day. 334 00:22:53,497 --> 00:22:56,739 The quicker we can get them to go out and buy, the better. 335 00:22:57,501 --> 00:22:59,742 There’s so much of that in this country. 336 00:23:00,754 --> 00:23:04,417 Mr. Ellison, lthink you have felt strongly about some aspects of this. 337 00:23:05,301 --> 00:23:10,091 Public television could make a contribution. 338 00:23:10,347 --> 00:23:15,341 As the American people becomes aware of itself, 339 00:23:15,853 --> 00:23:17,389 it discovers itself. 340 00:23:18,188 --> 00:23:22,898 We do not know as much as we should know about who we are, 341 00:23:23,569 --> 00:23:25,810 what we are, and how we differ. 342 00:23:26,572 --> 00:23:29,279 PRESIDENT JOHNSON: How will Man use his miracles? 343 00:23:34,163 --> 00:23:38,327 We want most of all to enrich Man’s spirit 344 00:23:39,335 --> 00:23:41,496 and that is the purpose of this act. 345 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,878 And then Nixon became president and he wanted to cut the funding. 346 00:23:53,182 --> 00:23:54,968 DAVID BlANCULLl: The beginnings of PBS 347 00:23:55,059 --> 00:23:57,516 was gonna probably be dismantled 348 00:23:57,686 --> 00:24:01,224 by Richard Nixon, whose approach to media 349 00:24:01,398 --> 00:24:04,310 was to threaten stations 350 00:24:04,526 --> 00:24:07,609 if they didn’t behave politically. 351 00:24:08,197 --> 00:24:10,609 MAX: Nixon had a problem with his budget. 352 00:24:10,783 --> 00:24:12,899 He had to find money for the Vietnam War. 353 00:24:12,993 --> 00:24:14,984 It wasn’t a lot of money in today’s terms, 354 00:24:15,371 --> 00:24:16,736 but he wanted to cut the budget. 355 00:24:17,039 --> 00:24:21,954 In the midst of all this, Fred Rogers gets to go before Congress, 356 00:24:22,127 --> 00:24:25,915 argue for $20 million of funding 357 00:24:26,090 --> 00:24:28,376 to sort of solidify PBS, 358 00:24:28,717 --> 00:24:32,380 in front of John Pastore, who is a senator who had already 359 00:24:32,471 --> 00:24:36,589 sort of made his Congressional bones by attacking television. 360 00:24:36,892 --> 00:24:39,099 This is gonna be a thorough hearing. 361 00:24:39,269 --> 00:24:42,477 This is gonna be a hearing not to reach for a headline, 362 00:24:42,648 --> 00:24:44,513 but to reach for a result. 363 00:24:45,150 --> 00:24:49,268 There had been two days of hearings and he hasn’t been very impressed. 364 00:24:49,363 --> 00:24:51,354 If you’d been watching those hearings 365 00:24:51,490 --> 00:24:52,900 and you had to bet on whether or not 366 00:24:52,992 --> 00:24:54,607 PBS was going to keep going... No! 367 00:24:54,702 --> 00:24:57,614 That educational television should permanently struggle 368 00:24:57,788 --> 00:24:59,494 for subsistence is intolerable. 369 00:24:59,915 --> 00:25:01,906 All right, who’s the next witness? 370 00:25:02,918 --> 00:25:05,250 SHARAPAN: Senator Pastore told the group, 371 00:25:05,337 --> 00:25:07,953 "I’ve heard everybody read your testimonies. 372 00:25:08,132 --> 00:25:11,499 "I don’t want anyone to read anymore. I’m tired of hearing the reading." 373 00:25:11,593 --> 00:25:14,835 When I heard about that I thought, "Uh-oh, Fred. " 374 00:25:15,139 --> 00:25:17,130 All right, Rogers, you’ve got the floor. 375 00:25:18,934 --> 00:25:22,973 And I could hear in his voice, the nerves. 376 00:25:23,772 --> 00:25:25,478 Senator Pastore, 377 00:25:26,859 --> 00:25:29,646 this is a philosophical statement 378 00:25:30,029 --> 00:25:32,691 and would take about ten minutes to read. 379 00:25:32,781 --> 00:25:33,987 So, I’ll not do that. 380 00:25:36,201 --> 00:25:39,785 One of the first things that a child learns 381 00:25:39,955 --> 00:25:42,241 in a healthy family is trust. 382 00:25:42,958 --> 00:25:46,746 And I trust what you have said, that you will read this. 383 00:25:47,046 --> 00:25:51,665 It’s very important to me. I care deeply about children. 384 00:25:52,551 --> 00:25:55,668 My first children... Will it make you happy ifyou read it? 385 00:25:56,638 --> 00:25:58,299 I’d just like to talk about it, 386 00:25:58,390 --> 00:25:59,505 if it’s all right. All right, sir. 387 00:26:00,476 --> 00:26:01,886 This is what I give, 388 00:26:02,061 --> 00:26:06,179 I give an expression of care every day to each child 389 00:26:06,857 --> 00:26:09,940 to help him realize that he is unique. 390 00:26:10,652 --> 00:26:12,643 lend the program by saying, 391 00:26:12,988 --> 00:26:17,607 "You’ve made this day a special day byjust you’re being you. 392 00:26:18,202 --> 00:26:21,194 "There’s no person in the whole world like you. 393 00:26:21,663 --> 00:26:24,200 "And I like you just the way you are." 394 00:26:24,458 --> 00:26:27,575 And I feel that if we, in public television, 395 00:26:27,878 --> 00:26:31,166 can only make it clear 396 00:26:31,715 --> 00:26:36,300 that feelings are mention-able and manageable, 397 00:26:36,553 --> 00:26:38,339 we will have done a great service. 398 00:26:41,100 --> 00:26:43,637 Could I tell you the words of one of the songs, 399 00:26:43,727 --> 00:26:45,558 which I feel is very important? 400 00:26:45,729 --> 00:26:46,718 PASTORE: Yes. 401 00:26:47,523 --> 00:26:50,936 This has to do with that good feeling of control, 402 00:26:51,110 --> 00:26:55,820 which I feel that children need to know is there. 403 00:26:56,073 --> 00:26:59,565 And it starts out, "What do you do with the mad that you feel?" 404 00:26:59,743 --> 00:27:02,234 And that first line came straight from a child. 405 00:27:02,579 --> 00:27:05,116 I work with children, doing puppets 406 00:27:05,290 --> 00:27:09,750 in very personal communication with small groups. 407 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,081 "What do you do with the mad that you feel 408 00:27:12,256 --> 00:27:14,588 "when you feel so mad you could bite? 409 00:27:14,967 --> 00:27:18,585 "When the whole wide world seems oh-so-wrong 410 00:27:18,762 --> 00:27:21,174 "and nothing you do seems very right? 411 00:27:22,558 --> 00:27:24,719 "It’s great to be able to stop 412 00:27:25,144 --> 00:27:27,510 "when you’ve planned a thing that’s wrong 413 00:27:27,980 --> 00:27:31,313 "and be able to do something else instead 414 00:27:31,483 --> 00:27:33,439 "and think this song, 415 00:27:33,610 --> 00:27:37,774 "I can stop when I want to, can stop when I wish, 416 00:27:37,948 --> 00:27:40,405 "can stop, stop, stop any time. 417 00:27:40,617 --> 00:27:43,734 "Know that there’s something deep inside 418 00:27:43,912 --> 00:27:46,449 "that helps us become what we can." 419 00:27:48,458 --> 00:27:51,996 I think it’s wonderful. I think it’s wonderful. 420 00:27:53,672 --> 00:27:56,709 Looks like you just earned the $20 million. 421 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:57,789 (LAUGHTER) 422 00:28:06,810 --> 00:28:09,597 REPORTER: Fred Rogers is easily the star of the show 423 00:28:09,771 --> 00:28:11,477 and if children had votes, 424 00:28:11,648 --> 00:28:13,980 public television would be on Easy Street tomorrow. 425 00:28:14,276 --> 00:28:15,516 (VOCALIZING) 426 00:28:17,654 --> 00:28:19,144 Oh, wow! (LAUGHS) 427 00:28:19,615 --> 00:28:21,981 Everything just sort of exploded. 428 00:28:22,659 --> 00:28:26,527 You know, suddenly there was press beating a path to our door. 429 00:28:27,831 --> 00:28:30,072 Good evening. I was in Pittsburgh a few days ago 430 00:28:30,334 --> 00:28:33,326 doing a bit of investigative reporting on a man named Fred Rogers. 431 00:28:33,462 --> 00:28:36,829 Meow-meow-meow wonderful! Meow! 432 00:28:37,049 --> 00:28:40,507 INVESTIGATOR: Mr. Rogers does ten different voices, for ten different puppets. 433 00:28:40,677 --> 00:28:43,669 Well, a copperhead is poisonous, is it not? 434 00:28:44,514 --> 00:28:47,551 INVESTIGATOR: He writes, he’s the producer, he’s the chief performer, 435 00:28:47,643 --> 00:28:49,053 and he is a marvel. 436 00:28:49,853 --> 00:28:51,718 Fred Rogers, as best I can tell, 437 00:28:51,897 --> 00:28:54,559 has managed to escape the calloused, the embittered, 438 00:28:54,691 --> 00:28:57,558 the negative aspects of being a public performer. 439 00:28:58,153 --> 00:29:00,860 He is doing the one thing in the world that he wishes to do 440 00:29:01,323 --> 00:29:04,110 and he is by any definition a happy man. 441 00:29:14,253 --> 00:29:17,416 JOHN: I sometimes wonder myself how he ticked. 442 00:29:18,048 --> 00:29:22,883 It’s a little tough for me to have the... Almost the second Christ as my dad. 443 00:29:24,263 --> 00:29:25,924 JlM: If we were at the dinner table, 444 00:29:26,014 --> 00:29:27,879 and he would want to say something 445 00:29:28,058 --> 00:29:31,926 that wasn’t necessarily Mr. Rogers-like, 446 00:29:32,896 --> 00:29:36,889 he would say it in Lady Elaine Fairchilde’s voice. 447 00:29:37,192 --> 00:29:40,480 Get out here, Friday. I need to speak with you. 448 00:29:40,737 --> 00:29:44,400 That was our cue that this is the alter-ego speaking now, 449 00:29:44,574 --> 00:29:46,906 you know, and just letting off a little steam. 450 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:54,369 JOANNE: He and I both had childhoods that you weren’t allowed to be angry. 451 00:29:55,711 --> 00:29:57,576 You weren’t allowed to show your anger. 452 00:29:59,965 --> 00:30:02,251 And we were never able to do it. 453 00:30:03,927 --> 00:30:05,508 It scared us. 454 00:30:09,766 --> 00:30:12,178 FRED: Music was my first language. 455 00:30:14,604 --> 00:30:16,970 I was scared to use words. 456 00:30:18,817 --> 00:30:21,058 I didn’t want to be a bad boy. 457 00:30:21,945 --> 00:30:24,607 I didn’t want to tell people that I was angry. 458 00:30:28,243 --> 00:30:30,575 But I could show it through 459 00:30:31,580 --> 00:30:34,447 the wayl would play on the piano. 460 00:30:35,292 --> 00:30:39,285 I could literally laugh or cry 461 00:30:39,463 --> 00:30:42,751 or be very angry through the ends of my fingers. 462 00:30:49,181 --> 00:30:52,139 I’ve always felt that you were someone who could understand 463 00:30:52,309 --> 00:30:54,925 the deep feelings or thoughts of people. 464 00:30:55,437 --> 00:30:59,146 Well, it took me so long to get tame. 465 00:30:59,483 --> 00:31:03,317 I try to understand how everybody else is working at it. 466 00:31:03,653 --> 00:31:05,234 Sometimes it isn’t easy. 467 00:31:05,322 --> 00:31:08,155 No, but it’s worth a try. 468 00:31:08,992 --> 00:31:10,948 Daniel was pretty much Fred. 469 00:31:12,788 --> 00:31:17,703 He did all the voices, but I think Daniel was 470 00:31:18,460 --> 00:31:19,996 the real Fred. 471 00:31:22,047 --> 00:31:26,416 Maybe I could talk about clocks and loving, 472 00:31:26,885 --> 00:31:28,375 and things like that. 473 00:31:28,553 --> 00:31:30,635 "A, B, C, D, 474 00:31:30,806 --> 00:31:33,889 "Fl GI J! KI L, M, S..." 475 00:31:34,059 --> 00:31:38,018 Oh, Lady Aberlin, Ijust can’t go to school tomorrow! 476 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:39,970 Why not, Daniel? 477 00:31:40,065 --> 00:31:42,431 Because I don't know everything. 478 00:31:43,860 --> 00:31:45,976 J U N LEI: Daniel is articulating 479 00:31:46,446 --> 00:31:49,108 the fears and anxieties and feelings 480 00:31:49,699 --> 00:31:52,190 that Fred had as a child, 481 00:31:53,036 --> 00:31:54,822 but that many children have. 482 00:31:59,209 --> 00:32:02,827 MARGY: He never forgot how vulnerable it was to be a kid. 483 00:32:03,171 --> 00:32:05,082 You know, you’re this little thing. 484 00:32:05,173 --> 00:32:07,880 Everything else in the world is bigger than you are 485 00:32:08,260 --> 00:32:11,878 and you have to learn everything that helps you get through life. 486 00:32:14,724 --> 00:32:17,386 I think that it just never left him. 487 00:32:17,477 --> 00:32:20,093 Whatever those scars of his life were, 488 00:32:20,439 --> 00:32:24,227 he wanted to help heal that wound, maybe? 489 00:32:25,902 --> 00:32:29,190 It’s a lot easier even as an adult 490 00:32:30,699 --> 00:32:33,907 for me to have Daniel say, 491 00:32:34,744 --> 00:32:36,609 (MIMICKING) "I’m really scared. 492 00:32:38,248 --> 00:32:40,739 "Do you think maybe you could give me a hug?" 493 00:32:41,293 --> 00:32:44,080 You know? But that would be hard for me to say, 494 00:32:44,254 --> 00:32:46,415 "I’m really scared. Do you think you could give me a hug?" 495 00:32:46,590 --> 00:32:50,253 So, the difference from here to here, 496 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,842 that doesn’t seem very far, 497 00:32:53,430 --> 00:32:58,265 but it was efficacious, 498 00:32:58,435 --> 00:32:59,550 to say the least. 499 00:32:59,978 --> 00:33:03,596 A car ran over the jaw of your cat? Mmm-hmm. 500 00:33:04,232 --> 00:33:06,564 And what happened? It was bleeding. 501 00:33:07,819 --> 00:33:08,979 Oh. 502 00:33:10,113 --> 00:33:13,571 They tried and fixed it, but they fixed it 503 00:33:13,742 --> 00:33:16,404 for a half a day, but then it died. 504 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,452 But then it died? Mmm-hmm. 505 00:33:19,623 --> 00:33:22,205 Oh, I think that’s scary. 506 00:33:23,293 --> 00:33:28,504 TOM: All you had to do was see Fred inhabit Daniel 507 00:33:29,341 --> 00:33:33,084 to really kind of figure it out. I mean, they were symbiotic. 508 00:33:34,638 --> 00:33:37,801 As strange as it is to see a grown man 509 00:33:38,141 --> 00:33:41,304 have a symbiotic relationship with kind of a dingy, 510 00:33:41,561 --> 00:33:45,145 you know, worn out little sock puppet, he definitely had that. 511 00:33:45,857 --> 00:33:48,143 Would you give me a hug? 512 00:33:49,778 --> 00:33:52,861 Thank you. 'Cause I needed that. 513 00:33:55,450 --> 00:33:58,442 I better go back in the case, Mr. Rogers. 514 00:33:58,828 --> 00:34:00,159 Okay, Daniel. 515 00:34:00,497 --> 00:34:04,661 He’s really nice. You could talk to him. Okay, Daniel. 516 00:34:10,173 --> 00:34:12,915 DANIEL: Just a minute. I want to show you something. 517 00:34:13,510 --> 00:34:14,795 Okay. 518 00:34:16,221 --> 00:34:17,836 Wonder what? 519 00:34:19,558 --> 00:34:22,015 It’s a balloon. Oh, a balloon. 520 00:34:22,143 --> 00:34:25,010 Could you blow it up for me? Surely. 521 00:34:30,193 --> 00:34:33,902 DAVID BlANCULLl: So, this is the first year of Mister Rogers’ Neighborhood. 522 00:34:34,698 --> 00:34:38,486 Daniel Striped Tiger is there with Lady Aberlin 523 00:34:38,660 --> 00:34:41,868 asking her to blow a balloon up and then let the air out. 524 00:34:42,872 --> 00:34:45,363 You wonder why this is in there. 525 00:34:49,337 --> 00:34:52,044 But they can’t hear. Can you hear on any of these? 526 00:34:54,217 --> 00:34:56,253 DANIEL: There’s something I want to ask you. 527 00:34:57,596 --> 00:34:59,928 What does "assassination" mean? 528 00:35:02,058 --> 00:35:04,891 What happened? Do you know? Somebody said he’s been shot. 529 00:35:05,937 --> 00:35:08,804 Let’s roll some video tape on this out here, friends. 530 00:35:10,066 --> 00:35:12,728 LADY ABERLIN: Have you heard that word a lot today? 531 00:35:13,403 --> 00:35:17,146 Yes. And I didn’t know what it meant. 532 00:35:18,450 --> 00:35:19,860 Well... 533 00:35:21,578 --> 00:35:23,284 It means 534 00:35:25,248 --> 00:35:27,580 somebody getting killed 535 00:35:29,544 --> 00:35:32,536 in a sort of surprise way. 536 00:35:32,797 --> 00:35:34,503 DANIEL: That’s what happened, you know. 537 00:35:34,591 --> 00:35:36,877 That man killed that other man. 538 00:35:37,886 --> 00:35:40,593 A lot of people are sad 539 00:35:41,097 --> 00:35:42,883 and scared about it, you know. 540 00:35:43,558 --> 00:35:46,140 I’d rather talk about it some other day. 541 00:35:46,936 --> 00:35:48,392 Whenever you like. 542 00:35:53,068 --> 00:35:56,231 FRED: I felt that I had to speak to the families 543 00:35:56,321 --> 00:35:58,061 of our country about grief. 544 00:36:06,498 --> 00:36:10,082 A plea not to leave the children isolated 545 00:36:10,335 --> 00:36:14,544 and at the mercy oftheir own fantasies of loss and destruction. 546 00:36:19,302 --> 00:36:22,260 Children have very deep feelings 547 00:36:22,597 --> 00:36:24,633 just the way parents do, 548 00:36:25,475 --> 00:36:28,342 just the way everybody does. 549 00:36:29,813 --> 00:36:32,771 And our striving 550 00:36:33,274 --> 00:36:35,481 to understand those feelings 551 00:36:35,944 --> 00:36:38,356 and to better respond to them 552 00:36:39,614 --> 00:36:43,607 is what I feel is a most important task in our world. 553 00:36:51,334 --> 00:36:54,371 He realized that if he really wanted to communicate, 554 00:36:54,546 --> 00:36:58,539 the most important thing is to listen. 555 00:36:59,092 --> 00:37:02,300 'Cause there's so many people who will just lump 'em all together 556 00:37:02,846 --> 00:37:07,180 and say, "Hey, kids, come along. We’ll see the next cartoon." 557 00:37:07,726 --> 00:37:11,435 And they couldn’t care less about what that cartoon is saying 558 00:37:11,521 --> 00:37:14,979 to the child about such things as human dignity. 559 00:37:15,358 --> 00:37:16,643 (UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYING) 560 00:37:27,203 --> 00:37:29,910 MAX: Remember what was happening for children’s television ? 561 00:37:30,415 --> 00:37:32,076 It was speeding up. 562 00:37:32,417 --> 00:37:35,033 Fred was pretty radical in television for that day 563 00:37:35,211 --> 00:37:38,624 in that he used time totally differently. 564 00:37:45,096 --> 00:37:49,840 To Fred, silence was his delight. 565 00:38:04,783 --> 00:38:08,025 Fred took an egg timer and said, 566 00:38:08,119 --> 00:38:10,861 "Do you want to know how long a minute is? There. We’re going to show you." 567 00:38:14,083 --> 00:38:17,291 And we just sat there for the whole minute. 568 00:38:20,799 --> 00:38:23,165 DAVID BlANCULLl: There’s a lot of slow space. 569 00:38:23,635 --> 00:38:25,091 There’s no wasted space. 570 00:38:25,678 --> 00:38:26,793 (INHALES) 571 00:38:27,639 --> 00:38:29,095 ln. 572 00:38:30,058 --> 00:38:31,264 (EXHALES) 573 00:38:31,601 --> 00:38:33,057 Out. 574 00:38:39,317 --> 00:38:43,606 I think silence is one of the greatest gifts that we have. 575 00:38:50,161 --> 00:38:53,619 His questions are direct, simple, short, 576 00:38:54,290 --> 00:38:55,575 and then he waits. 577 00:38:56,459 --> 00:38:58,120 YO-YO MA: He interviewed me 578 00:38:58,628 --> 00:39:02,496 and he put his face about 3 inches away from my face, 579 00:39:03,132 --> 00:39:06,465 says, "It’s so nice to see you 580 00:39:06,845 --> 00:39:09,006 "and to be with you." 581 00:39:09,347 --> 00:39:12,214 It scared the living daylights out of me. 582 00:39:12,976 --> 00:39:17,094 But I realized this is what children do with adults. 583 00:39:18,022 --> 00:39:22,812 And sometimes after they answer, he doesn’t say anything else. 584 00:39:22,986 --> 00:39:24,726 So, they say a little bit more. 585 00:39:24,821 --> 00:39:27,858 It’s a perfect interviewing trick. 586 00:39:29,868 --> 00:39:30,903 (LAUGHING) 587 00:39:30,994 --> 00:39:35,988 Very funny! Very funny. I’m not falling for it. Very good. 588 00:39:46,885 --> 00:39:51,219 Handyman Negri and Officer Clemmons, I presume! 589 00:39:51,389 --> 00:39:53,345 BOTH: Correct as always, Your Highness. 590 00:39:53,516 --> 00:39:57,680 Could we take a close look at your badge here, Officer Clemmons? 591 00:39:57,854 --> 00:40:01,187 My friends I think can read it. 592 00:40:01,357 --> 00:40:03,848 P-O-L-I-C-E. 593 00:40:04,903 --> 00:40:07,019 l have always felt policemen to be 594 00:40:07,113 --> 00:40:09,024 the most dangerous person in the neighborhood. 595 00:40:09,699 --> 00:40:14,363 So, to have me playing a police officerl was tremendously hesitant. 596 00:40:14,537 --> 00:40:17,870 But there was something reluctant about Fred to let go. 597 00:40:18,041 --> 00:40:19,906 And I said, "Mr. Rogers, 598 00:40:20,293 --> 00:40:23,330 "I would be very happy to be on your program, 599 00:40:23,588 --> 00:40:27,376 "as long as it doesn’t interfere with my singing." 600 00:40:27,550 --> 00:40:31,759 (SINGING) We’ve had it and now we can go 601 00:40:33,222 --> 00:40:37,716 We don’t want the snow anymore 602 00:40:38,937 --> 00:40:43,431 And he teased me. He teased me about that for 20 years! 603 00:40:43,608 --> 00:40:45,439 He’d say, "Officer Clemmons, 604 00:40:45,944 --> 00:40:50,108 "are we interfering with your career? Are we interfering?" 605 00:40:50,406 --> 00:40:53,898 He was relentless, but he also told me, he said, 606 00:40:54,369 --> 00:40:56,610 "That was the moment I loved you." 607 00:40:57,121 --> 00:41:00,784 He said, "Because you were not going to kiss my ass." 608 00:41:00,959 --> 00:41:03,166 Those are Mr. Rogers’ words. 609 00:41:06,756 --> 00:41:08,462 FRED: That feels good. 610 00:41:12,261 --> 00:41:15,003 Oh, there’s Officer Clemmons. Hi, Officer Clemmons. Come in. 611 00:41:15,098 --> 00:41:17,180 Hi, Mr. Rogers, how are you? Fine. Why don’t you sit down? 612 00:41:17,266 --> 00:41:18,676 Oh, sure, just for a moment. 613 00:41:18,768 --> 00:41:21,851 It’s so warm I was just putting some water on my feet. 614 00:41:21,980 --> 00:41:24,266 Oh, it sure is. Would you like tojoin me? 615 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,432 That looks awfully enjoyable, but I don’t have a towel or anything. 616 00:41:27,527 --> 00:41:30,485 Oh, you share mine. Okay. Sure! 617 00:41:30,655 --> 00:41:33,192 CLEMMONS: Around the country they didn’t want black people to come 618 00:41:33,282 --> 00:41:35,022 and swim in their swimming pools. 619 00:41:36,202 --> 00:41:38,693 And Fred said, "That is absolutely ridiculous." 620 00:41:40,498 --> 00:41:42,238 REPORTER: Today, trouble under a noon sun. 621 00:41:42,333 --> 00:41:46,952 Negroes and White rabbis marched to a segregated hotel with these results, 622 00:41:47,672 --> 00:41:51,415 the Manager James Brock told them to get off his private property, 623 00:41:51,676 --> 00:41:54,463 tossed cleaning chemicals inside the pool 624 00:41:54,637 --> 00:41:56,969 in an effort to get the Negroes to leave. 625 00:41:58,307 --> 00:42:01,970 My being on the program was a statement for Fred. 626 00:42:03,688 --> 00:42:06,145 FRED: Cool water on a hot day. 627 00:42:10,194 --> 00:42:12,685 TOM: I think that will is the great 628 00:42:12,822 --> 00:42:17,612 unseen and unacknowledged ingredient in Fred’s story. 629 00:42:22,373 --> 00:42:25,115 The level of will that this guy brought 630 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:30,499 to really almost all phases of his life, physical and spiritual. 631 00:42:33,217 --> 00:42:36,004 There’s no better manifestation of that 632 00:42:36,345 --> 00:42:39,007 than 143. 633 00:42:39,307 --> 00:42:41,844 Is that your address here? Oh, no. 634 00:42:42,185 --> 00:42:44,767 It means something special. 635 00:42:45,688 --> 00:42:47,770 LADY ABERLIN: 1-4-3? DANIEL: Mmm-hmm. 636 00:42:49,067 --> 00:42:52,525 You see, "I" is one letter 637 00:42:52,904 --> 00:42:56,567 and love, L-O-V-E is four letters, 638 00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,692 and "you," Y-O-U is three letters. 639 00:43:01,871 --> 00:43:05,489 TOM: Fred would go to the Pittsburgh Athletic Club 640 00:43:05,708 --> 00:43:07,619 and he swam a mile. 641 00:43:08,586 --> 00:43:11,248 He swam at a unhurried, 642 00:43:11,339 --> 00:43:14,923 but deliberate and determined pace. 643 00:43:15,093 --> 00:43:18,802 And then he got on the scale 644 00:43:20,556 --> 00:43:25,266 and the needle of the scale jumped to 143. 645 00:43:25,937 --> 00:43:28,394 And he came off it 646 00:43:28,731 --> 00:43:31,017 with kind of a little smile on his face, 647 00:43:31,776 --> 00:43:34,358 and he told me that he had weighed 648 00:43:34,737 --> 00:43:38,275 143 pounds every day of his life 649 00:43:38,574 --> 00:43:41,611 since like the late '503 or early '603. 650 00:43:46,916 --> 00:43:49,783 Now, I’ve thought about this a lot. 651 00:43:49,919 --> 00:43:54,663 With that 143 pound thing, drives me insane. 652 00:43:55,299 --> 00:43:57,915 Try that! I can’t do that! 653 00:43:58,970 --> 00:44:02,883 TOM: In Fred’s private numerology "I love you” is "143. " 654 00:44:03,141 --> 00:44:07,555 So, when the needle jumps to 143, 655 00:44:12,441 --> 00:44:15,649 There’s so many weird things that I’m not gonna tell you. 656 00:44:15,987 --> 00:44:17,102 (INTERVIEWER SPEAKING) 657 00:44:18,281 --> 00:44:19,487 No. 658 00:44:21,492 --> 00:44:25,576 NICK: Freddy was like the little rich kid that lived in the big house. 659 00:44:26,414 --> 00:44:30,532 We were all the goofball kids that lived across the alley. 660 00:44:31,961 --> 00:44:34,077 We could be ourselves around Fred. 661 00:44:34,297 --> 00:44:37,585 We were crazies. We all had long hair, 662 00:44:38,467 --> 00:44:41,425 and we were always having fun. We were always making jokes. 663 00:44:41,596 --> 00:44:43,302 It’s such a good... 664 00:44:44,432 --> 00:44:46,297 (LAUGHING) 665 00:44:51,981 --> 00:44:54,643 All right, that aren’t mine. Who’s are these? 666 00:44:55,109 --> 00:44:56,224 (MUSIC PLAYING) 667 00:44:58,863 --> 00:45:03,323 NICK: If we ever saw a camera lying around, we’d grab it, 668 00:45:03,534 --> 00:45:05,741 l’d pull my pants down, I’d take a picture of my ass 669 00:45:05,828 --> 00:45:07,284 and put their camera back. 670 00:45:07,371 --> 00:45:11,159 And like, then itwas film, so like three weeks later, 671 00:45:11,334 --> 00:45:14,997 you’d go to the Fotomat and you’d get your pictures back 672 00:45:15,171 --> 00:45:18,663 and there’s Aunt Judy and there’s Uncle Fred and there’s some guy’s ass. 673 00:45:19,675 --> 00:45:22,667 And one day Fred brought his camera into the studio 674 00:45:22,845 --> 00:45:24,506 and he was taking pictures with it. 675 00:45:25,014 --> 00:45:28,006 And we went behind the set, took a picture of my butt, 676 00:45:28,476 --> 00:45:29,807 and put his camera back. 677 00:45:30,019 --> 00:45:33,352 He never said anything, and like, months later... 678 00:45:33,648 --> 00:45:35,889 I think itwas around Christmas time, 679 00:45:36,234 --> 00:45:39,317 he said to somebody, "Did you give Nick his present?" 680 00:45:39,695 --> 00:45:44,359 And it was a poster of that picture of me and my butt. 681 00:45:54,585 --> 00:45:57,372 Thank you very much. You’re welcome. 682 00:45:57,546 --> 00:45:59,878 Did you make these yourself? 683 00:46:00,383 --> 00:46:03,671 I... (STUTTERING) 684 00:46:03,844 --> 00:46:06,711 I thought... I thought of X the Owl, 685 00:46:06,889 --> 00:46:10,882 so I drew him in his house 686 00:46:11,227 --> 00:46:13,013 and his little door. 687 00:46:13,896 --> 00:46:18,060 Oh, these are real treasures. Thank you very much. 688 00:46:18,234 --> 00:46:21,726 You’re welcome. Would you like to see X the Owl? 689 00:46:24,949 --> 00:46:28,032 You’re a little happy. That makes you just a little bit happy,huh? 690 00:46:28,703 --> 00:46:30,910 Oh, hello there! 691 00:46:32,456 --> 00:46:34,117 Hello, everybody. 692 00:46:34,417 --> 00:46:37,204 ALL: Hi. I’m X the Owl. 693 00:46:37,586 --> 00:46:40,043 I hear you drew a picture of me. 694 00:46:41,632 --> 00:46:46,092 This is a book on all of the different tapes that we have. 695 00:46:46,304 --> 00:46:48,135 Here are the tapes. Here. 696 00:46:50,057 --> 00:46:54,221 DAVID NEWELL: At that point, he thought he had done enough programs, 697 00:46:54,312 --> 00:46:56,052 that they could be repeated. 698 00:46:56,147 --> 00:46:58,763 Those are all different visits, 699 00:47:00,151 --> 00:47:02,938 television visits that we have on tape. 700 00:47:03,612 --> 00:47:07,355 DAVID NEWELL: He was writing, he was hosting, he was singing, he was composing. 701 00:47:07,491 --> 00:47:10,779 And it took a lot out of him. I think he wanted a breather. 702 00:47:11,329 --> 00:47:15,288 Well, next week, we’ll start to show all of these visits, 703 00:47:15,458 --> 00:47:18,074 so everybody can see them the whole way through. 704 00:47:18,252 --> 00:47:19,583 I’ll look forward to that. 705 00:47:20,296 --> 00:47:22,127 Let’s take a look at this one. 706 00:47:22,298 --> 00:47:25,131 MARGY: When you think about all of those episodes 707 00:47:25,509 --> 00:47:27,921 there’s only so many stories you can tell, right? 708 00:47:28,346 --> 00:47:31,838 MAN: What’s in the future for Fred Rogers? I understand that 709 00:47:31,932 --> 00:47:33,593 you are ceasing production 710 00:47:33,684 --> 00:47:35,800 this spring of the Neighborhood shows. 711 00:47:36,312 --> 00:47:38,849 Well, it’s going to give us time to make some things 712 00:47:39,023 --> 00:47:40,979 that I’ve wanted to do for a long time. 713 00:47:59,835 --> 00:48:01,541 Hi, Katie. Hi, Fred. 714 00:48:03,172 --> 00:48:05,754 John, wait till you see this quilt. 715 00:48:07,343 --> 00:48:11,632 He wanted to do some prime time stuff for adults 716 00:48:11,847 --> 00:48:15,840 and, so he got funding to do a show called Old Friends... New Friends. 717 00:48:17,061 --> 00:48:21,805 FRED: I wonder what it is that makes one person push on in the face of difficulty 718 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,437 and make someone else crumble in helplessness. 719 00:48:26,904 --> 00:48:28,110 MAN: What does tomorrow feel like? 720 00:48:28,197 --> 00:48:31,860 That big. lfeel that big. 721 00:48:32,368 --> 00:48:33,858 MAN: There’s no feeling for tomorrow. 722 00:48:33,953 --> 00:48:35,909 Feeling is dead for me in here. 723 00:48:38,165 --> 00:48:40,531 ELIZABETH: He was incredibly open. 724 00:48:41,752 --> 00:48:43,743 He was scarily open. 725 00:48:46,048 --> 00:48:49,506 MAX: He wanted to speak to adults. He kinda put the puppets away. 726 00:48:50,177 --> 00:48:52,543 But have you watched some of these? 727 00:48:53,764 --> 00:48:57,973 The feeling that this instrument is a place, 728 00:49:01,230 --> 00:49:03,937 that it is a country. 729 00:49:05,734 --> 00:49:09,067 That it’s somewhere that you go 730 00:49:10,072 --> 00:49:12,233 to say something. 731 00:49:17,246 --> 00:49:19,828 LORlN HOLLANDER: What does this have to do with our world? 732 00:49:21,917 --> 00:49:25,080 I don’t know any store that’s like this. 733 00:49:25,629 --> 00:49:27,915 Any television program that’s like this. 734 00:49:29,258 --> 00:49:30,748 A flower is like this. 735 00:49:32,094 --> 00:49:34,085 A child is like this. 736 00:49:35,764 --> 00:49:39,006 MAX: Nobody but Fred would’ve thought of doing that for adults. 737 00:49:39,602 --> 00:49:41,138 MAN: Take number 19. 738 00:49:42,229 --> 00:49:47,144 Thank you for your poems and your thoughts about loving poetry and music. 739 00:49:47,818 --> 00:49:50,480 You really inspired us to make this program. 740 00:49:50,821 --> 00:49:52,686 I’ll be with you next time. 741 00:49:53,741 --> 00:49:58,201 But he wasn’t making the kind of connections with adults on television 742 00:49:58,287 --> 00:49:59,697 that he thought he might be able to make. 743 00:50:04,627 --> 00:50:08,711 DAVID NEWELL: Iremember opening the paper and reading about a child 744 00:50:09,423 --> 00:50:11,914 jumping off a roof with a towel around his neck 745 00:50:12,134 --> 00:50:14,625 because he was playing Superman. 746 00:50:16,972 --> 00:50:19,338 And there had been a lot of stories like that. 747 00:50:19,517 --> 00:50:23,635 Some children died because of the injuries. I read it to Fred. 748 00:50:24,355 --> 00:50:27,313 It hit him, because he thought he had covered 749 00:50:27,483 --> 00:50:32,477 all there was to say in child development, but this was new. 750 00:50:33,697 --> 00:50:34,937 MAX: Fred didn’t become angry a lot, 751 00:50:35,032 --> 00:50:37,068 but he just became so angry 752 00:50:37,159 --> 00:50:39,821 about the fact that people would mislead a small child. 753 00:50:41,372 --> 00:50:45,490 And angry that it was his medium that was doing this. 754 00:50:51,048 --> 00:50:52,163 Yeah, Superman. 755 00:50:55,302 --> 00:50:59,591 lam tired of hearing people who have long ago set aside 756 00:50:59,682 --> 00:51:01,889 the concerns of childhood, 757 00:51:02,476 --> 00:51:05,263 telling everybody what children really need. 758 00:51:05,854 --> 00:51:08,095 I’ll tell you what children need. 759 00:51:09,483 --> 00:51:12,520 They need adults who will protect them 760 00:51:13,195 --> 00:51:16,858 from the ever-ready molders of their world. 761 00:51:20,369 --> 00:51:22,860 DAVID NEWELL: That was the moment Fred said, 762 00:51:23,247 --> 00:51:25,704 "I wonder ifwe could do a week on superheroes 763 00:51:26,208 --> 00:51:29,200 "talking about the pretend-ness of it?” 764 00:51:30,588 --> 00:51:34,251 Very quickly we came back with the show. 765 00:51:44,852 --> 00:51:47,059 Careful, Anna, I don’t want you to... 766 00:51:47,146 --> 00:51:50,855 lthink I’m flying! lam! l’m flying! No, no, you're falling! 767 00:51:51,066 --> 00:51:55,025 What is going on here? Oh, Anna was trying to fly. 768 00:51:55,279 --> 00:51:58,897 l was using my super-skirt and l was going through the air. 769 00:51:59,074 --> 00:52:02,237 Yes, but you were going down and you might have gotten hurt! 770 00:52:02,578 --> 00:52:03,909 X: That’s right, Anna. 771 00:52:04,079 --> 00:52:07,242 You have to be really careful with super-things. 772 00:52:08,751 --> 00:52:11,458 NICK: He was cool with every kid. 773 00:52:12,296 --> 00:52:15,584 That’s the whole thing. I mean, there were the kids that were... 774 00:52:15,758 --> 00:52:18,591 They were little bastards. They were just rowdy and... 775 00:52:18,927 --> 00:52:22,260 Fred never said, "This kid’s a dick. Get him outta here." 776 00:52:22,431 --> 00:52:24,262 You know, I mean, I sure would’ve. 777 00:52:25,601 --> 00:52:28,764 Fred used to say that the outside world 778 00:52:28,937 --> 00:52:32,725 of children’s lives has changed, but their insides haven’t. 779 00:52:33,275 --> 00:52:36,142 He realized that his work wasn’t through. 780 00:52:36,570 --> 00:52:40,438 l’m Fred Rogers and I’d like to talk with you about make-believe. 781 00:52:41,116 --> 00:52:44,358 MAX: When it goes to the next level is in the 19803 782 00:52:44,453 --> 00:52:45,738 when he goes to the theme weeks. 783 00:52:45,829 --> 00:52:48,445 I mean, to do a week on death... 784 00:52:48,707 --> 00:52:52,450 "Oh, hi, kids! We’re going to do a week on death!" 785 00:52:53,962 --> 00:52:55,247 On divorce! 786 00:52:55,339 --> 00:52:57,295 FRED: Some people get married and after a while 787 00:52:57,466 --> 00:52:59,457 they’re so unhappy with each other 788 00:52:59,551 --> 00:53:01,758 that they don’t want to be married anymore. 789 00:53:02,137 --> 00:53:07,348 On children getting lost! Man! That’s guts. 790 00:53:09,812 --> 00:53:13,805 DANIEL: Help! Help, help! Help, please, everybody! 791 00:53:24,993 --> 00:53:28,781 JUNLEI: There’s a piece of paper that I accidentally ran into. 792 00:53:31,500 --> 00:53:36,836 And he typed in this little sheet of paper about how he couldn’t do it, 793 00:53:37,673 --> 00:53:39,914 that he didn't think he was up to the task. 794 00:53:41,510 --> 00:53:45,469 JOANNE: "Am/kidding myself that I’m able to write a script again? 795 00:53:46,181 --> 00:53:50,470 "Am I really just whistling Dixie? I wonder. 796 00:53:51,353 --> 00:53:54,891 "Ifl don’t get down to it, I’ll never really know. 797 00:53:56,483 --> 00:53:58,724 "Why don’t I trust myself? 798 00:53:59,486 --> 00:54:03,695 "After all these years, it’s just as bad as ever. 799 00:54:06,326 --> 00:54:09,693 "The hour cometh and now is when I’ve got to do it. 800 00:54:10,706 --> 00:54:13,038 "Get to it, Fred, get to it! 801 00:54:14,710 --> 00:54:19,295 ”But don’t let anybody ever tell anybody else that it was easy. 802 00:54:19,673 --> 00:54:21,163 "It wasn’t. " 803 00:54:21,550 --> 00:54:23,006 (SONG PLAYING) 804 00:54:27,723 --> 00:54:32,217 TOM: The time that I was with him going on a New York City subway, 805 00:54:32,394 --> 00:54:35,557 all the children in that crowded subway car 806 00:54:36,231 --> 00:54:38,563 began singing the Neighborhood song. 807 00:54:51,747 --> 00:54:56,366 He might as well have been an animated figure stepped into real life. 808 00:54:57,085 --> 00:54:58,074 Could I try that? 809 00:54:58,170 --> 00:54:59,205 (BLOWING) 810 00:54:59,296 --> 00:55:01,252 I brought my skates with me. I can try. 811 00:55:02,424 --> 00:55:03,664 (WOMAN EXCLAlMS) 812 00:55:08,597 --> 00:55:10,804 What else you like to do? Moon walking. 813 00:55:10,974 --> 00:55:13,431 Moonwalk? You got it. Yeah. 814 00:55:14,144 --> 00:55:17,636 MAX: People thought he was such an important American figure 815 00:55:17,815 --> 00:55:21,182 they wanted him to speak out on the issues of the day. 816 00:55:21,652 --> 00:55:25,315 And, so, Fred grew pretty comfortably into more of a public role. 817 00:55:25,489 --> 00:55:30,028 FRED: You know, the Earth is a name for the place where everybody lives. 818 00:55:30,494 --> 00:55:33,861 And the moon is the name for the place 819 00:55:34,456 --> 00:55:35,946 where the astronauts go. 820 00:55:36,625 --> 00:55:40,834 Every time we went through a national or international tragedy, 821 00:55:41,338 --> 00:55:45,081 my impulse was always to call Fred and put him on the radio. 822 00:55:46,134 --> 00:55:49,422 What shall we tell our children about the things that are in the news 823 00:55:49,596 --> 00:55:52,087 that seem so difficult, so tragic? 824 00:55:52,474 --> 00:55:56,058 REPORTER 1: Pilot Mike Smith followed by Christa McAuliffe, teacher in space. 825 00:55:57,145 --> 00:55:59,807 REPORTER 2: Christa has been rehearsing the lessons she’ll teach from space. 826 00:56:00,315 --> 00:56:04,524 Good morning. This is Christa McAuliffe live from the Challenger. 827 00:56:04,695 --> 00:56:07,357 REPORTER 2: The lessons will be seen nationwide on public television. 828 00:56:07,447 --> 00:56:10,405 Five, four, three... 829 00:56:10,492 --> 00:56:14,030 REPORTER 3: Two, one and liftoff.I 830 00:56:14,204 --> 00:56:19,198 Liftoff of the 25th space shuttle mission and it has cleared the tower. 831 00:56:19,293 --> 00:56:21,079 MAN 1: Challenger, go with throttle up. 832 00:56:21,336 --> 00:56:23,076 MAN 2: Roger, go with throttle up. 833 00:56:30,012 --> 00:56:31,502 MAN 3: God, no! 834 00:56:36,018 --> 00:56:40,057 SUSAN: How do we put it to children, so they will understand? 835 00:56:44,526 --> 00:56:47,859 And part of Fred’s answer was always to tell children 836 00:56:48,196 --> 00:56:51,188 that we, the parents, would take care of them. 837 00:56:52,576 --> 00:56:54,988 Sometimes I found that a difficult message myself 838 00:56:55,162 --> 00:56:56,993 as the parent of a young child. 839 00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:58,741 Sometimes I felt I was lying. 840 00:56:58,832 --> 00:57:00,697 I knew that there were things in this world that 841 00:57:00,792 --> 00:57:02,373 I couldn’t protect my child from. 842 00:57:06,048 --> 00:57:09,211 FRED: Sometimes we need to struggle with the tragedy 843 00:57:09,551 --> 00:57:11,712 to feel the gravity of love. 844 00:57:13,347 --> 00:57:17,431 Love is what keeps us together and afloat. 845 00:57:23,774 --> 00:57:26,607 (SINGING) It’s a beautiful day in the neighborhood 846 00:57:26,777 --> 00:57:29,769 A beautiful day for a neighbor Would you be mine? 847 00:57:29,863 --> 00:57:34,232 You know, it must be tough to be Fred Rogers 848 00:57:34,409 --> 00:57:39,278 with your mission in mind 849 00:57:39,456 --> 00:57:40,992 and then to have parodies. 850 00:57:41,083 --> 00:57:45,417 I always wanted to live in a house like yours my friend 851 00:57:46,088 --> 00:57:49,876 Maybe when there’s nobody home I’ll break in 852 00:57:50,050 --> 00:57:52,587 I married a woman who said she was rich 853 00:57:52,761 --> 00:57:55,093 Spent all her money Walked out on the bitch 854 00:57:59,935 --> 00:58:01,095 (KNOCKING AT DOOR) 855 00:58:02,104 --> 00:58:05,596 FRED: Eddie Murphy did that Mister Robinson’s Neighborhood 856 00:58:05,774 --> 00:58:08,140 and I remember meeting him 857 00:58:08,318 --> 00:58:10,354 and he just threw his arms around me 858 00:58:10,445 --> 00:58:13,858 the first time he saw me and he said, "The real Mister Rogers. " 859 00:58:14,116 --> 00:58:16,778 MAN: That’s Mr. Rogers there in the... 860 00:58:17,244 --> 00:58:19,109 On the left. On the left, yeah. 861 00:58:19,287 --> 00:58:20,276 Now, how do you react to that? 862 00:58:21,123 --> 00:58:22,829 Well, some of them aren’t very funny. 863 00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:26,413 But I think that a lot of them are done 864 00:58:26,962 --> 00:58:29,419 with real kindness in their hearts. 865 00:58:30,298 --> 00:58:34,382 I’m moving to a new neighborhood where I’ve made a new friend. 866 00:58:36,596 --> 00:58:39,053 Can you say "hooker"? 867 00:58:39,516 --> 00:58:43,008 There were some that were not as kind 868 00:58:43,478 --> 00:58:48,768 in nature and if they made fun of the philosophy, 869 00:58:49,276 --> 00:58:51,858 that was the only thing that offended him, I think. 870 00:58:52,529 --> 00:58:56,147 ANNOUNCER: The battle of the P-B-S stars. 871 00:58:57,367 --> 00:59:00,325 HOST: The crowd is literally buzzing with excitement 872 00:59:00,495 --> 00:59:03,828 as Mr. Rogers enters the ring... Oh, look out there, Fred! 873 00:59:03,999 --> 00:59:08,083 Fred had such a great sense of humor for the most part. 874 00:59:08,420 --> 00:59:12,333 HOST: There’s Child, obviously in shape and ready for this fight. 875 00:59:12,507 --> 00:59:14,168 But what about Rogers? 876 00:59:14,509 --> 00:59:18,343 Experts have cast aspersions on his manhood itself. 877 00:59:19,347 --> 00:59:21,087 DAVID NEWELL: Fred was watching with the rest of us 878 00:59:21,183 --> 00:59:22,548 and everybody would be laughing 879 00:59:22,726 --> 00:59:27,846 and | just wonder if a little bit of Fat Freddy came back. 880 00:59:30,025 --> 00:59:32,061 JOANNE: Just before getting to adolescence, 881 00:59:32,152 --> 00:59:36,065 he didn’t have an easy time making friends, I don’t think. 882 00:59:36,740 --> 00:59:39,698 He got a good taste of what bullying was all about. 883 00:59:41,369 --> 00:59:45,362 I’ve often wondered if there hadn’t been a Fat Freddy 884 00:59:45,707 --> 00:59:47,789 would there have been a Mister Rogers? 885 00:59:47,918 --> 00:59:51,536 HOST: You can feel the momentum actually swinging towards Child. 886 00:59:51,713 --> 00:59:55,080 And whatjust happened there? He cracked a puppet! 887 00:59:55,258 --> 00:59:56,464 Oh, look at this! 888 00:59:56,551 --> 00:59:59,714 He’s hitting Child with the Ioveable King Friday! 889 00:59:59,888 --> 01:00:01,674 And the French chefis down! 890 01:00:02,390 --> 01:00:03,755 (LAUGHTER ON RECORD) 891 01:00:07,145 --> 01:00:08,134 (CHUCKLES) 892 01:00:10,732 --> 01:00:12,017 A laughter record. 893 01:00:12,192 --> 01:00:14,854 Used to play one like this when l was a young boy. 894 01:00:15,737 --> 01:00:18,900 You see, I felt that the adults around me were pressuring me 895 01:00:18,990 --> 01:00:20,821 to be what I couldn’t be yet. 896 01:00:21,076 --> 01:00:23,567 "Act like a grown-up," I’d hear them say. 897 01:00:24,204 --> 01:00:27,037 Well, lwas afraid they’d laugh at me when I tried. 898 01:00:27,457 --> 01:00:29,368 So, lfound a record like this 899 01:00:29,459 --> 01:00:31,620 and I could make the laughs start 900 01:00:31,795 --> 01:00:34,787 and make them stop whenever I wanted to. 901 01:00:35,924 --> 01:00:38,631 For someone who hated to be laughed at, 902 01:00:39,094 --> 01:00:43,258 it was a good feeling to be in charge of at least this laughter. 903 01:00:45,308 --> 01:00:46,718 I think that 904 01:00:47,602 --> 01:00:51,595 those who would try 905 01:00:52,482 --> 01:00:55,849 to make you feel less than who you are, 906 01:00:56,278 --> 01:00:58,109 I think that’s the greatest evil. 907 01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:01,818 (SINGING) I’ve always wanted to live in a neighborhood with you 908 01:01:01,992 --> 01:01:06,110 So, let’s make the most of this beautiful day 909 01:01:06,955 --> 01:01:10,789 Since we’re together, we might as well say 910 01:01:11,126 --> 01:01:13,617 Would you be mine, could you be mine... 911 01:01:14,337 --> 01:01:17,329 SHARAPAN: There was a wonderful quote from Fred. 912 01:01:17,591 --> 01:01:18,797 Oh, that’s hard. 913 01:01:18,884 --> 01:01:20,840 SHARAPAN: The most important learning 914 01:01:20,927 --> 01:01:25,091 it’s the ability to accept and expect mistakes 915 01:01:25,265 --> 01:01:27,756 and deal with the disappointments that they bring. 916 01:01:28,310 --> 01:01:32,098 Hi, neighbor. Had a little trouble with my zipper there. 917 01:01:32,647 --> 01:01:37,516 I’ll get these shoes tied and then try the zipper again. 918 01:01:38,361 --> 01:01:41,353 SHARAPAN: And Fred also understood 919 01:01:41,448 --> 01:01:43,359 that there’s a deeper level. 920 01:01:44,826 --> 01:01:46,862 You know something, Lady Aberlin? 921 01:01:46,953 --> 01:01:48,193 What, Daniel? 922 01:01:48,663 --> 01:01:51,496 I’ve been wondering about something myself. 923 01:01:51,666 --> 01:01:53,372 Something about Mr. Skunk? 924 01:01:53,543 --> 01:01:55,659 Something about mistakes. 925 01:01:55,754 --> 01:01:56,994 What is it? 926 01:01:57,672 --> 01:02:02,086 I’ve been wondering if I was a mistake? 927 01:02:03,803 --> 01:02:05,384 LADY ABERLIN: If you were a mistake? 928 01:02:05,555 --> 01:02:08,672 And lwill tell you sitting in the studio 929 01:02:09,184 --> 01:02:11,049 listening to that that day 930 01:02:12,229 --> 01:02:16,893 I said to myself, "I can’t believe Fred had the courage 931 01:02:18,235 --> 01:02:20,021 "to put that into words." 932 01:02:20,862 --> 01:02:24,855 Sometimes I wonder if I’m too tame. 933 01:02:25,659 --> 01:02:30,653 (SINGING) Sometimes I wonder if I’m a mistake 934 01:02:31,164 --> 01:02:35,373 I’m not like anyone else I know 935 01:02:36,044 --> 01:02:40,708 When I’m asleep or even awake 936 01:02:40,882 --> 01:02:45,876 Sometimes I get to dreaming that I’m just a fake 937 01:02:46,263 --> 01:02:50,256 I’m not like anyone else 938 01:02:51,101 --> 01:02:55,970 (SINGING) I think you are just fine as you are 939 01:02:56,064 --> 01:02:57,019 You do? 940 01:02:57,107 --> 01:03:01,350 I really must tell you I do... 941 01:03:01,528 --> 01:03:05,146 JUNLEI: Lady Aberlin is saying to Daniel 942 01:03:05,824 --> 01:03:08,190 what Fred himself wanted to say, 943 01:03:08,576 --> 01:03:11,659 not only to his childhood self but to all children. 944 01:03:11,746 --> 01:03:16,206 You’re not a fake You’re no mistake 945 01:03:16,543 --> 01:03:18,534 You are my friend 946 01:03:18,712 --> 01:03:21,374 And then you think, "Okay, then Daniel’s gonna say, 947 01:03:21,548 --> 01:03:22,788 "'Oh, thank you. That helped me a lot."' 948 01:03:23,425 --> 01:03:27,919 I wonder if I’m a mistake I think you are just fine as you are 949 01:03:28,096 --> 01:03:31,588 I’m not like anyone else I really must tell you... 950 01:03:31,766 --> 01:03:36,635 SHARAPAN: And I thought to myself, "Thank you, Fred, for reminding us that 951 01:03:36,813 --> 01:03:40,931 "it’s not so easy to quiet a doubt. " 952 01:03:41,276 --> 01:03:46,646 But make it a duet so that it's notjust your fears, 953 01:03:46,823 --> 01:03:48,859 but you’ll hear my support. 954 01:03:49,117 --> 01:03:51,529 Isn’t it true that the strong never break? 955 01:03:51,619 --> 01:03:53,610 When you're sleep When you're wake 956 01:03:53,747 --> 01:03:57,456 I’m not like anyone else I know You’re not a fake 957 01:03:57,625 --> 01:04:02,619 You’re no mistake You’re my friend I’m not like anyone else 958 01:04:05,133 --> 01:04:09,297 lthink you are just fine 959 01:04:09,471 --> 01:04:11,837 exactly the way you are. 960 01:04:12,015 --> 01:04:13,300 The way I look? 961 01:04:13,391 --> 01:04:14,631 Yes. 962 01:04:14,809 --> 01:04:16,140 The way I talk? 963 01:04:16,227 --> 01:04:17,637 Well, yes. 964 01:04:17,812 --> 01:04:19,677 The way I love? 965 01:04:19,773 --> 01:04:21,354 Especially that. 966 01:04:23,026 --> 01:04:24,015 (SlGHS) 967 01:04:27,405 --> 01:04:30,943 (SINGING) Every valley 968 01:04:32,952 --> 01:04:35,694 Every valley 969 01:04:35,872 --> 01:04:38,113 Shall be exalted 970 01:04:38,291 --> 01:04:39,997 FRANCOIS: There were black kids watching the show. 971 01:04:40,502 --> 01:04:44,495 They needed a black figure who would not let them down. 972 01:04:44,672 --> 01:04:48,506 So, if I came out as gay and there was some kind ofscandaL 973 01:04:48,885 --> 01:04:51,251 that would not serve the race. 974 01:04:51,846 --> 01:04:53,802 I carried that all the time. 975 01:04:54,307 --> 01:04:59,301 The feeling you know you’re alive! 976 01:05:02,649 --> 01:05:04,514 Really nice, Francois! 977 01:05:05,193 --> 01:05:07,479 I went to a gay bar downtown called the Play Pen. 978 01:05:07,570 --> 01:05:09,310 Oh, God, did I have a lot of fun! 979 01:05:09,489 --> 01:05:12,697 But somebody told the Mister Rogers’ Neighborhood people 980 01:05:12,784 --> 01:05:15,901 about it, and he asked me, "Were you downtown at that bar?" 981 01:05:16,079 --> 01:05:19,242 And I said, "Yes." He said, "You can’t go back there anymore." 982 01:05:20,375 --> 01:05:24,334 I wanted to show this film to you. Okay, on Picture, Picture. 983 01:05:26,548 --> 01:05:28,755 Here’s Mrs. Clemmons at home. 984 01:05:29,217 --> 01:05:32,709 In ’68 I got married. I’m not stupid. 985 01:05:33,221 --> 01:05:35,758 FRED: There’s the portrait ofthe King and Queen. 986 01:05:39,018 --> 01:05:41,885 If I came out publicly, he said, "You cannot be on the show anymore." 987 01:05:42,730 --> 01:05:45,642 The sponsors, Johnson and Johnson, and Sears, 988 01:05:46,109 --> 01:05:49,067 they are not going to support an openly gay man. 989 01:05:50,613 --> 01:05:54,572 Fred was not prepared to lose that market. 990 01:05:55,618 --> 01:05:58,360 My marriage failed miserably. 991 01:05:59,581 --> 01:06:02,072 And I discovered you can’t pray it away. 992 01:06:04,294 --> 01:06:06,580 JOANNE: Eventually, Fred came around to it. 993 01:06:07,797 --> 01:06:12,461 I think Francois just came a little too soon maybe, you know? 994 01:06:13,011 --> 01:06:14,251 (INTERVIEWER SPEAKING) 995 01:06:15,054 --> 01:06:17,545 Oh, yes. Oh, my yes. Heavens. 996 01:06:21,561 --> 01:06:23,768 You gotta forgive me for this, but I have to ask you something 997 01:06:23,938 --> 01:06:27,601 that may sound impertinent and I don’t mean for it to, for a second. 998 01:06:29,944 --> 01:06:31,605 Are you square? 999 01:06:31,946 --> 01:06:34,028 I mean, are you a straight guy? I mean, you’rejust... 1000 01:06:34,365 --> 01:06:35,901 Are you really the way you are? 1001 01:06:36,034 --> 01:06:38,195 CLEMMONS: First ofall, no, he’s not gay. 1002 01:06:38,453 --> 01:06:40,785 ltell everyone who asks me, "No, he’s not gay." 1003 01:06:40,872 --> 01:06:44,456 But the other part is I spent enough time with him 1004 01:06:44,792 --> 01:06:48,455 that if he had... lfthere was a gay vibe, I would’ve picked it up. 1005 01:06:49,797 --> 01:06:52,129 Nope. Not as far as I know. 1006 01:06:53,092 --> 01:06:58,462 I think that anybody who looked at Fred looked at somebody 1007 01:06:59,140 --> 01:07:02,632 that they couldn’t compare with anybody else. 1008 01:07:02,727 --> 01:07:06,720 There’s something inside you that hasn’t been lost. 1009 01:07:06,981 --> 01:07:08,312 Thank you, Daniel. 1010 01:07:08,483 --> 01:07:10,189 Your childhood. Mmm-hmm. 1011 01:07:10,610 --> 01:07:11,690 Okay. 1012 01:07:11,778 --> 01:07:12,733 I like him. 1013 01:07:12,820 --> 01:07:14,151 I know. 1014 01:07:14,447 --> 01:07:15,436 Bye-bye. 1015 01:07:15,532 --> 01:07:18,444 TOM: That was one of the things that I responded to. 1016 01:07:20,161 --> 01:07:22,698 He’s terrific. Wow. 1017 01:07:22,789 --> 01:07:26,327 I definitely saw another way of being a man. 1018 01:07:28,670 --> 01:07:30,831 NICK: I’m sure you’ve heard all these rumors about 1019 01:07:31,714 --> 01:07:34,751 Fred being a Navy SEAL and killing people. 1020 01:07:34,842 --> 01:07:39,131 Was Fred a Navy SEAL? Did Fred have tattoos? 1021 01:07:39,556 --> 01:07:42,423 TOM: And that, you know, he wore the sweater 1022 01:07:42,517 --> 01:07:44,382 to cover the tattoos. 1023 01:07:45,353 --> 01:07:48,140 NICK: Fred was born a rich kid. 1024 01:07:49,107 --> 01:07:51,689 He didn't know how to use a screwdriver, 1025 01:07:52,110 --> 01:07:53,691 let alone kill a bunch of people. 1026 01:07:55,029 --> 01:07:59,693 TOM: That to me isjust like a classic example of people 1027 01:07:59,784 --> 01:08:03,402 looking at Fred in all his eccentricity and singularity 1028 01:08:03,746 --> 01:08:06,863 and trying to basically say, "Well, that can’t be. 1029 01:08:07,250 --> 01:08:08,660 "He has to be this way." 1030 01:08:10,378 --> 01:08:14,963 The universal question about Fred is, was he that way in real life? 1031 01:08:15,592 --> 01:08:16,798 And the answer is, yes. 1032 01:08:19,220 --> 01:08:21,085 Francois Clemmons, hi, welcome. 1033 01:08:21,180 --> 01:08:22,340 Thank you. How you doin’? 1034 01:08:22,432 --> 01:08:24,468 I’m fine. How are you today? Fine. 1035 01:08:24,559 --> 01:08:26,015 My feet were tired, so I thought 1036 01:08:26,102 --> 01:08:28,434 I’d just soak them for a while in this water. 1037 01:08:28,771 --> 01:08:30,011 Does it make them feel better? 1038 01:08:30,189 --> 01:08:31,679 It does. Would you like to try? 1039 01:08:31,774 --> 01:08:32,763 Sure! 1040 01:08:32,859 --> 01:08:34,815 CLEMMONS: On the show he would say, 1041 01:08:34,902 --> 01:08:37,234 "I love you just the way you are. " 1042 01:08:37,947 --> 01:08:41,906 One day I said, "Fred! Were you talking to me?" 1043 01:08:42,535 --> 01:08:44,947 And he looked at me and he said, "Yes, 1044 01:08:45,246 --> 01:08:48,113 "I’ve been talking to you for two years 1045 01:08:48,291 --> 01:08:50,782 "and you finally heard me today." 1046 01:08:51,461 --> 01:08:55,249 And Ijust collapsed into his arms. I was... I started crying. I... 1047 01:08:56,215 --> 01:08:58,422 That's when I knew that I loved him. 1048 01:08:58,509 --> 01:09:02,923 (SINGING) There are many ways to say "I love you” 1049 01:09:03,765 --> 01:09:08,099 There are many ways to say "I care about you” 1050 01:09:08,269 --> 01:09:10,760 CLEMMONS: No man had ever told me that he loved me like that. 1051 01:09:11,272 --> 01:09:13,729 I needed to hear it all my life. My dad never told me. 1052 01:09:13,816 --> 01:09:15,602 My step-father never told me. 1053 01:09:16,903 --> 01:09:20,691 So, from then on, he became my surrogate father. 1054 01:09:23,284 --> 01:09:25,366 I’m so proud of you, Francois. 1055 01:09:25,453 --> 01:09:26,613 Oh, thank you, Fred. 1056 01:09:27,288 --> 01:09:28,368 May I help you here? 1057 01:09:28,456 --> 01:09:29,741 Thank you. 1058 01:09:30,625 --> 01:09:32,581 FRED: The people who have had 1059 01:09:32,710 --> 01:09:36,794 a lot of struggle in their lives, 1060 01:09:37,340 --> 01:09:39,456 those are the people who really impress me. 1061 01:09:41,177 --> 01:09:42,508 (INTERVIEWER SPEAKING) 1062 01:09:44,430 --> 01:09:48,764 There was an interview with a little boy by the name of Jeff Erlanger. 1063 01:09:49,769 --> 01:09:53,557 We wrote because Jeff was going to have a spinal fusion 1064 01:09:53,690 --> 01:09:56,557 and be in a... What they calla halo... 1065 01:09:56,651 --> 01:09:57,731 Cast. A halo cast. 1066 01:09:57,819 --> 01:10:01,528 Metal rim and then cast on his shoulders and bolted all together... 1067 01:10:01,656 --> 01:10:03,237 All the way down his trunk. Yeah. 1068 01:10:03,658 --> 01:10:05,819 HOWARD: He may not have survived the surgery. 1069 01:10:05,993 --> 01:10:09,156 And, so, we said, you know, "What would you like to do? 1070 01:10:09,664 --> 01:10:12,326 "This is going to be a really big task for you and, so, 1071 01:10:12,500 --> 01:10:15,458 "we want to kick it off with something that would be really special." 1072 01:10:15,545 --> 01:10:17,160 Mr. Rogers? 1073 01:10:17,255 --> 01:10:18,916 Hey, Jeff. 1074 01:10:19,966 --> 01:10:21,831 I’m glad to see you. Hi. 1075 01:10:22,009 --> 01:10:24,341 Thank you very much for coming by. 1076 01:10:24,846 --> 01:10:26,882 Can you tell my friends 1077 01:10:27,348 --> 01:10:30,055 what it is that made you need this wheelchair? 1078 01:10:30,518 --> 01:10:31,507 Sure. 1079 01:10:31,686 --> 01:10:36,646 Well, when l was about seven months old 1080 01:10:37,191 --> 01:10:42,185 I had a tumor 1081 01:10:42,363 --> 01:10:48,029 and it broke the nerves to tell my hands and legs what to do. 1082 01:10:48,202 --> 01:10:49,362 FRED: lsee. 1083 01:10:50,538 --> 01:10:55,999 And I got a wheelchair when l was four years old. 1084 01:10:56,169 --> 01:10:59,661 That was your first one. When you were four. Mmm-hmm. Uh-huh. 1085 01:10:59,922 --> 01:11:03,039 He told Jeff before they started that they would have a chat 1086 01:11:03,217 --> 01:11:04,377 and then sing a song together. 1087 01:11:04,469 --> 01:11:06,835 I think he said, "We might sing a song." I remember. 1088 01:11:07,013 --> 01:11:08,469 'Cause, l was sort of surprised, 1089 01:11:08,556 --> 01:11:10,046 "What? He’s going to start singing a song?" 1090 01:11:10,224 --> 01:11:13,387 Well, you know, this is totally... Not even "What song?" 1091 01:11:13,895 --> 01:11:17,058 (SINGING) It’s you I like 1092 01:11:17,732 --> 01:11:20,565 It’s not the things you wear 1093 01:11:20,943 --> 01:11:24,185 It’s not the way you do your hair 1094 01:11:24,572 --> 01:11:27,439 But it’s you I like 1095 01:11:28,034 --> 01:11:30,867 The way you are right now 1096 01:11:31,287 --> 01:11:34,871 (BOTH SINGING) The way down deep inside you 1097 01:11:35,249 --> 01:11:38,537 Not the things that hide you 1098 01:11:38,711 --> 01:11:41,077 Not your fancy chair! Chair! 1099 01:11:41,756 --> 01:11:44,748 That’s just beside you 1100 01:11:46,260 --> 01:11:49,878 But it’s you I like 1101 01:11:50,765 --> 01:11:53,632 Every part of you 1102 01:11:54,227 --> 01:11:57,594 Your skin Your eyes 1103 01:11:57,772 --> 01:11:59,763 Your feelings 1104 01:11:59,982 --> 01:12:03,770 Whether old or new 1105 01:12:04,445 --> 01:12:07,778 I hope that you’ll remember 1106 01:12:08,491 --> 01:12:12,985 Even when you’re feeling blue 1107 01:12:13,746 --> 01:12:16,112 That it’s you I like 1108 01:12:16,457 --> 01:12:20,826 It’s you, yourself It’s you 1109 01:12:22,922 --> 01:12:25,004 It’s you 1110 01:12:25,633 --> 01:12:29,171 I like 1111 01:12:29,846 --> 01:12:31,552 And it is you I like, Jeff. 1112 01:12:31,639 --> 01:12:32,594 Thanks. 1113 01:12:32,682 --> 01:12:35,674 And there must be times when you do feel blue. 1114 01:12:35,768 --> 01:12:36,848 Uh-huh. 1115 01:12:37,019 --> 01:12:38,725 I’m not feeling blue right now though. 1116 01:12:38,813 --> 01:12:39,802 Me neither! 1117 01:12:41,482 --> 01:12:43,393 I’m so glad that you came today. 1118 01:12:43,484 --> 01:12:44,473 Thanks. 1119 01:12:44,569 --> 01:12:47,481 I remember asking one of the staff people that was there, 1120 01:12:47,655 --> 01:12:50,112 "Well, you know, what do you think? Did it go okay? 1121 01:12:50,283 --> 01:12:51,819 "Oh, this is good! This is good." 1122 01:12:53,494 --> 01:12:55,985 PAM: He had his surgery, he survived. 1123 01:12:56,539 --> 01:13:00,123 Certainly, Mr. Rogers had an impact on who Jeff became. 1124 01:13:01,168 --> 01:13:02,999 His sense of self. 1125 01:13:04,130 --> 01:13:07,293 INTERVIEWER: You obviously have a power now. 1126 01:13:08,050 --> 01:13:11,213 I mean, that you wouldn’t have had when you first started the show. 1127 01:13:15,141 --> 01:13:19,134 Well, it might sound very ingenuous,butldont feel that. 1128 01:13:27,486 --> 01:13:32,071 I would hope that anybody who sets himself or herself out 1129 01:13:32,241 --> 01:13:36,234 to produce mass programming for children, 1130 01:13:38,331 --> 01:13:42,370 could have the kind of respect of childhood that l have. 1131 01:13:46,839 --> 01:13:50,878 Because it’s not all clowns and balloons. 1132 01:13:56,390 --> 01:13:58,597 (INTERVIEWER SPEAKING) 1133 01:14:00,478 --> 01:14:02,719 What do you mean, you don’t agree with me? 1134 01:14:05,775 --> 01:14:08,938 Some television programs are loud and scary 1135 01:14:09,362 --> 01:14:12,229 with people shooting and hitting other people. 1136 01:14:12,740 --> 01:14:15,322 You know, you can do something about that. 1137 01:14:15,910 --> 01:14:20,244 When you see scary television, you can turn it off. 1138 01:14:22,708 --> 01:14:26,997 We need to help our children become more and more aware 1139 01:14:27,463 --> 01:14:30,921 that what is essential in life 1140 01:14:31,300 --> 01:14:34,463 is invisible to the eye. 1141 01:14:35,096 --> 01:14:36,427 Thank you. 1142 01:14:37,556 --> 01:14:38,887 WOMAN: Thank you very much. 1143 01:14:39,767 --> 01:14:41,257 MARGY: As he got older 1144 01:14:41,769 --> 01:14:45,887 it was more important for him to be strong in his beliefs. 1145 01:14:46,065 --> 01:14:49,228 Maybe that was how he was getting his anger out. 1146 01:14:49,402 --> 01:14:52,144 His anger that people didn't take him seriously. 1147 01:14:52,321 --> 01:14:55,779 They didn’t get him. They didn't get the depth of the show. 1148 01:15:00,121 --> 01:15:02,282 ELAINE CROZIER: He started out being Daniel, 1149 01:15:02,748 --> 01:15:05,785 soft and quiet and shy, 1150 01:15:07,336 --> 01:15:09,497 developed into King Friday. 1151 01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:14,840 That is not correct. Now do it again and do it perfectly. 1152 01:15:15,344 --> 01:15:18,461 SUSAN: Wasn’t King Friday a wonderful insight into his character? 1153 01:15:18,639 --> 01:15:21,096 His determination and his ambitions. 1154 01:15:21,559 --> 01:15:25,973 As a king, I must see that the world runs smoothly. 1155 01:15:26,480 --> 01:15:28,641 Farewell to you both! 1156 01:15:28,816 --> 01:15:33,059 SUSAN: Thatgruffness was his way of getting what he wanted across. 1157 01:15:34,447 --> 01:15:36,688 Fred Rogers wanted something very badly, 1158 01:15:36,824 --> 01:15:40,988 and would do what he felt was necessary in order to get it. 1159 01:15:46,333 --> 01:15:48,369 FRED: Let’s take the gauntlet 1160 01:15:49,378 --> 01:15:51,994 and make goodness attractive 1161 01:15:52,173 --> 01:15:54,915 in this so-called next millennium. 1162 01:15:56,635 --> 01:15:58,421 That’s the real... 1163 01:16:00,848 --> 01:16:03,510 That’s the real job that we have. 1164 01:16:04,310 --> 01:16:07,097 I’m not talking about Pollyanna-ish kind of stuff. 1165 01:16:07,188 --> 01:16:08,553 I’m talking about 1166 01:16:08,731 --> 01:16:12,519 down-to-Earth actual goodness. 1167 01:16:13,819 --> 01:16:15,855 People caring for each other 1168 01:16:16,822 --> 01:16:18,904 in a myriad of ways, 1169 01:16:19,366 --> 01:16:22,073 rather than people knocking each other off all the time. 1170 01:16:22,411 --> 01:16:25,494 I mean, I don’t find that funny at all. 1171 01:16:27,333 --> 01:16:29,369 What changes the world? 1172 01:16:30,044 --> 01:16:34,037 The only thing that ever really changes the world 1173 01:16:34,882 --> 01:16:37,715 is when somebody gets the idea 1174 01:16:38,385 --> 01:16:41,548 that love can abound 1175 01:16:42,098 --> 01:16:43,929 and can be shared. 1176 01:16:47,353 --> 01:16:49,059 You’re doing a greatjob. 1177 01:16:56,737 --> 01:16:59,945 JlM: Dad never stood up and said, "Look at what I’ve done. 1178 01:17:00,116 --> 01:17:02,198 "Look at this. Isn’t this wonderful?" 1179 01:17:02,576 --> 01:17:06,865 The only time I ever saw him come even close to anything like that 1180 01:17:07,039 --> 01:17:09,576 was when he did the interview with Koko the gorilla. 1181 01:17:14,130 --> 01:17:16,542 Right. That’s a happy sound. 1182 01:17:16,632 --> 01:17:17,621 Is it? 1183 01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:19,085 That’s a purr. 1184 01:17:19,176 --> 01:17:20,791 (MIMICS PURRING) Like that? 1185 01:17:21,262 --> 01:17:23,423 Can you teach me how to do that? (PURRS) 1186 01:17:23,681 --> 01:17:24,796 (PURRS) 1187 01:17:26,225 --> 01:17:27,806 Isn’t that a nice way to welcome 1188 01:17:27,893 --> 01:17:30,009 someone and say that you’re happy? 1189 01:17:32,106 --> 01:17:36,941 JlM: It was a weird kind of a thing, 1190 01:17:37,194 --> 01:17:41,563 but you realize there was something kind of magical going on there. 1191 01:17:42,074 --> 01:17:44,281 What? Love? 1192 01:17:49,290 --> 01:17:50,871 Well, that was very nice. 1193 01:17:50,958 --> 01:17:51,947 Thank you, Koko. 1194 01:18:04,471 --> 01:18:07,463 FRED: There’s so much to think about, isn’t there? 1195 01:18:11,312 --> 01:18:13,598 MAN: Let me ask you about what we’ve been discussing for the last three hours. 1196 01:18:13,689 --> 01:18:16,931 Mr. Rogers and the narcissistic society that he gave birth to 1197 01:18:17,109 --> 01:18:19,395 because he told every kid that they were important. 1198 01:18:19,486 --> 01:18:22,694 Do you believe his philosophy destroyed a generation? 1199 01:18:22,781 --> 01:18:24,817 WOMAN: This evil, evil man. 1200 01:18:25,284 --> 01:18:26,899 The criticism goes like this... 1201 01:18:27,661 --> 01:18:29,617 "You told everyone they’re special. 1202 01:18:29,997 --> 01:18:32,989 "They don’t have to do anything to earn that special. 1203 01:18:33,334 --> 01:18:34,995 "That’s what’s wrong with our country. 1204 01:18:35,169 --> 01:18:37,125 "That’s what’s wrong with children today." 1205 01:18:37,213 --> 01:18:40,376 MAN: He didn’t say, "If you wasn’t to be special, you’re gonna have to work hard. " 1206 01:18:40,549 --> 01:18:44,007 And now all these kids are growing up, and they’re realizing, 1207 01:18:44,094 --> 01:18:47,006 "Hey, wait a minute, Mr. Rogers lied to me. I’m not special. " 1208 01:18:47,848 --> 01:18:51,090 JUNLEI: I’m sure by then Fred had heard the criticisms, 1209 01:18:51,185 --> 01:18:54,222 but he’s not talking about entitlement. 1210 01:18:55,481 --> 01:18:56,812 And if you don’t believe 1211 01:18:57,566 --> 01:18:59,727 that everyone has inherent value, 1212 01:19:00,861 --> 01:19:02,852 you might as well go against 1213 01:19:03,364 --> 01:19:05,355 the fundamental notion of Christianity. 1214 01:19:06,367 --> 01:19:10,952 That you are the beloved son or daughter of God. 1215 01:19:11,705 --> 01:19:13,616 Hi, Mr. Rogers, it’s a pleasure to meet you. 1216 01:19:13,707 --> 01:19:15,197 Hi. I’m glad to meet you. Thank you. 1217 01:19:15,376 --> 01:19:17,617 I watched your show as a youngster. 1218 01:19:17,711 --> 01:19:19,292 I wasn't allowed to go to preschool, 1219 01:19:19,463 --> 01:19:23,706 'cause I had a disability, and my mom made me watch your show every day. 1220 01:19:23,884 --> 01:19:25,749 Thank you... Bless your heart and here you are. 1221 01:19:25,844 --> 01:19:27,425 ...for my preschool educaflon. 1222 01:19:28,389 --> 01:19:30,801 And thank you for inspiring me today. 1223 01:19:31,767 --> 01:19:35,885 JUNLEI: At the very end of Fred’s very last commencement speech 1224 01:19:36,063 --> 01:19:39,976 he said what he meant when he say, "You’re special." 1225 01:19:40,567 --> 01:19:43,559 And what that ultimately means, of course, 1226 01:19:44,405 --> 01:19:50,241 is that you don’t ever have to do anything sensational 1227 01:19:51,287 --> 01:19:52,993 for people to love you. 1228 01:19:54,832 --> 01:19:57,824 It is really a matter of believing that 1229 01:19:58,252 --> 01:20:01,619 you’re endowed by your creator with good. 1230 01:20:04,925 --> 01:20:07,587 You know there are many different ways of saying, "I love you." 1231 01:20:07,761 --> 01:20:10,252 In fact, I like to think about times 1232 01:20:10,431 --> 01:20:13,423 when I’ve seen people showing their love. Okay. 1233 01:20:15,853 --> 01:20:17,718 MAN: Show 1765. 1234 01:20:18,188 --> 01:20:20,429 This is the last scene of the last show 1235 01:20:20,607 --> 01:20:23,599 of the last day, the last taping day 1236 01:20:23,944 --> 01:20:26,526 of the interior of Mister Rogers’ Neighborhood. 1237 01:20:26,864 --> 01:20:31,324 (ROGER SINGING) It’s such a good feeling to know you’re alive 1238 01:20:31,452 --> 01:20:35,616 It’s such a happy feeling You’re growing inside 1239 01:20:35,789 --> 01:20:39,532 And when you wake up ready to say 1240 01:20:39,793 --> 01:20:43,411 I think I’ll make a snappy new day 1241 01:20:44,214 --> 01:20:46,796 It’s such a good feeling 1242 01:20:46,967 --> 01:20:49,583 A very good feeling, the... 1243 01:20:49,678 --> 01:20:50,793 (LAUGHS) 1244 01:20:50,888 --> 01:20:52,970 This place has been condemned. 1245 01:20:53,390 --> 01:20:55,551 Oh, it’s been condemned. Oh, well. You got two days to move out. 1246 01:20:55,726 --> 01:20:58,138 Okay, thanks. See ya. 1247 01:21:00,814 --> 01:21:03,476 That was wonderful! 1248 01:21:03,984 --> 01:21:06,817 Years ago, it wasn’t so weird that 1249 01:21:07,821 --> 01:21:09,982 somebody as nice as Fred was around. 1250 01:21:10,741 --> 01:21:14,325 Now there isn’t room for a nice person on TV. 1251 01:21:14,703 --> 01:21:17,570 So, we must have regular reunions. 1252 01:21:17,998 --> 01:21:20,489 Yeah. How about Tuesday? 1253 01:21:22,503 --> 01:21:25,540 Yeah, I’ll have forgotten about everyone by Monday. 1254 01:21:25,714 --> 01:21:28,251 So, Tuesday will bring it all back. 1255 01:21:57,746 --> 01:22:00,533 We did it! Can you believe it? We did it! 1256 01:22:00,707 --> 01:22:02,117 Mercy! 1257 01:22:04,211 --> 01:22:06,827 JOANNE: When he did stop making the programs, 1258 01:22:07,214 --> 01:22:09,876 I felt that he was depressed. 1259 01:22:11,885 --> 01:22:13,671 And I mentioned it to him 1260 01:22:15,180 --> 01:22:20,766 and he said, "Well, I miss my playmates." 1261 01:22:29,570 --> 01:22:32,903 MAN: Okay. Okay, slate out. FRED: That’s fine. 1262 01:22:34,324 --> 01:22:39,159 MARGY: We decided to have Fred back to do some promos about 9-1 1. 1263 01:22:42,124 --> 01:22:45,082 He was very troubled and I said, "Fred, what’s wrong?" 1264 01:22:45,252 --> 01:22:47,914 And he said, "I just don’t know 1265 01:22:48,755 --> 01:22:50,370 "what good these are going to do." 1266 01:22:51,175 --> 01:22:53,461 And I just remembered saying, 1267 01:22:54,094 --> 01:22:56,756 "Fred! How can you say that?" 1268 01:23:02,019 --> 01:23:05,807 When the horror of 9-1 1 really hit him, 1269 01:23:06,940 --> 01:23:09,602 I think it was a real eye-opener. 1270 01:23:10,527 --> 01:23:14,770 He was realizing that it was just so big. 1271 01:23:16,450 --> 01:23:21,444 It’s always going to be an ongoing struggle to overcome evil. 1272 01:23:22,956 --> 01:23:26,244 I remember thinking, "Okay, this is 1273 01:23:27,294 --> 01:23:30,286 "the time that you need to pump him up because 1274 01:23:30,464 --> 01:23:34,298 "he doesn’t understand this is really important." 1275 01:23:34,468 --> 01:23:35,833 People listen to you. 1276 01:23:37,304 --> 01:23:38,464 Okay. 1277 01:23:43,185 --> 01:23:46,097 No matter what our particularjob, 1278 01:23:46,480 --> 01:23:49,142 especially in our world today, 1279 01:23:49,858 --> 01:23:54,773 we all are called to be tikun olam, 1280 01:23:55,822 --> 01:23:58,814 "repairers of creation." 1281 01:24:00,202 --> 01:24:04,161 Thank you for whatever you do, wherever you are, 1282 01:24:04,331 --> 01:24:07,994 to bring joy and light and hope 1283 01:24:08,168 --> 01:24:12,036 and faith and pardon and love 1284 01:24:12,589 --> 01:24:15,501 to your neighbor and to yourself. 1285 01:24:35,529 --> 01:24:38,111 MAX: Fred didn't like going to the doctor’s office. 1286 01:24:38,907 --> 01:24:42,866 He had stomach problems for a long time. I mean, for several years. 1287 01:24:43,245 --> 01:24:46,203 FRED: Oh, what’s that right down there? 1288 01:24:49,251 --> 01:24:52,038 Take a look at the aquarium. Do you see a dead fish? 1289 01:24:53,547 --> 01:24:56,710 A dead fish would be one that isn’t swimming 1290 01:24:57,050 --> 01:24:59,166 or breathing or anything at all. 1291 01:24:59,261 --> 01:25:00,967 Look down there and see, will you? 1292 01:25:01,138 --> 01:25:05,222 See ifyou see anything. Oh, yes, right there, isn’t it? 1293 01:25:06,059 --> 01:25:07,469 YO-YO MA: He told me that he was sick. 1294 01:25:08,061 --> 01:25:10,803 Iplayed a Bach Sarabande for him over the phone. 1295 01:25:11,273 --> 01:25:14,811 It’s like sending a little loving message. 1296 01:25:23,410 --> 01:25:25,401 JOANNE: When he was very ill 1297 01:25:25,912 --> 01:25:29,075 he talked a lot about dying well, 1298 01:25:30,584 --> 01:25:34,918 to die with the hopes... 1299 01:25:35,255 --> 01:25:37,086 With the hopes intact. 1300 01:25:42,262 --> 01:25:45,550 Before he became comatose he said, 1301 01:25:46,099 --> 01:25:47,964 "Do you think I’m a sheep?" 1302 01:25:48,935 --> 01:25:51,677 And we knew what he was talking about because 1303 01:25:51,938 --> 01:25:55,681 he had been reading in the Bible about the Last Days, 1304 01:25:55,776 --> 01:25:57,186 with the Judgment. 1305 01:25:59,780 --> 01:26:02,522 It will be decided at the end 1306 01:26:02,658 --> 01:26:05,616 who is a sheep and who is a goat. 1307 01:26:07,704 --> 01:26:10,867 And I think the need was always there 1308 01:26:10,957 --> 01:26:15,371 for being loved, for being capable of being loved. 1309 01:26:17,964 --> 01:26:20,171 There was a little silence and then I said, 1310 01:26:20,258 --> 01:26:24,342 "Fred, if ever there was a sheep you’re one." 1311 01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:25,795 (CELLO PLAYING) 1312 01:26:43,990 --> 01:26:46,197 VVeH,lsuppose it’s an invitation, 1313 01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:48,696 "Won’t you be my neighbor?" 1314 01:26:49,663 --> 01:26:53,326 It’s an invitation for 1315 01:26:54,501 --> 01:26:57,208 somebody to be close to you. 1316 01:26:57,379 --> 01:27:01,839 You know, I think everybody longs to be loved 1317 01:27:02,843 --> 01:27:07,337 and longs to know that he or she is lovable. 1318 01:27:10,684 --> 01:27:14,097 And consequently, the greatest thing that we can do 1319 01:27:14,896 --> 01:27:17,433 is to help somebody know 1320 01:27:18,567 --> 01:27:22,606 that they’re loved and capable of loving. 1321 01:27:23,655 --> 01:27:25,191 (PIANO MUSIC PLAYING) 1322 01:27:41,715 --> 01:27:44,798 TOM: Across the street from Fred’s funeral, there’s this hubbub 1323 01:27:44,968 --> 01:27:49,382 and there’s all these people holding up signs saying, "God hates fags. " 1324 01:27:50,140 --> 01:27:53,883 And I went and talked to them because Fred would have it no other way. 1325 01:27:55,228 --> 01:27:58,311 I said, ”Are you condemning Fred? Are you saying that he was gay? 1326 01:27:58,398 --> 01:27:59,387 "What’s happening?" 1327 01:28:00,066 --> 01:28:03,684 And they were saying that, "No, no, he just... He tolerated gays. " 1328 01:28:04,070 --> 01:28:08,564 And so, they were intolerant of the tolerance. 1329 01:28:08,992 --> 01:28:13,281 And the thing that struck me that day more than anything else 1330 01:28:13,455 --> 01:28:15,446 was the children that were there. 1331 01:28:15,540 --> 01:28:20,751 Children that had been drafted into doing this work into standing there 1332 01:28:20,921 --> 01:28:23,913 with their parents and holding up signs and screaming. 1333 01:28:24,299 --> 01:28:29,089 And those kids looked so unhappy. 1334 01:28:29,346 --> 01:28:32,338 Those kids looked so exhausted. 1335 01:28:32,599 --> 01:28:36,467 Those kids looked so ill-treated. It was just heart-breaking. 1336 01:28:36,686 --> 01:28:39,598 And I knew that if Fred had seen that, 1337 01:28:39,773 --> 01:28:41,764 that’s where his heart would have gone. 1338 01:28:59,543 --> 01:29:03,001 JOANNE: I can’t think how he would feel about the things 1339 01:29:03,171 --> 01:29:04,957 that have come out 1340 01:29:05,632 --> 01:29:08,419 that seem to set us back so far. 1341 01:29:10,470 --> 01:29:11,585 SUSAN: And I wonder if he wouldn’t 1342 01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:15,468 simply put down his tiger and just stay home, 1343 01:29:16,309 --> 01:29:18,015 forget about even trying. 1344 01:29:19,062 --> 01:29:21,474 He’s not a person who would’ve given up, 1345 01:29:21,815 --> 01:29:23,430 but this is daunting. 1346 01:29:25,652 --> 01:29:28,519 I think he would be trying to mend... 1347 01:29:29,906 --> 01:29:35,492 Mend the split. 1348 01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:41,156 He would be trying to find some way 1349 01:29:43,044 --> 01:29:45,035 to find something positive. 1350 01:29:46,548 --> 01:29:50,166 FRED: When I was a boy and I would hear about something scary, 1351 01:29:50,343 --> 01:29:54,177 my mother would tell us, ”Always look for the people who are helping. 1352 01:29:54,764 --> 01:29:58,177 "You’ll always find somebody who’s trying to help. " 1353 01:29:59,269 --> 01:30:02,511 I think there are a lot of people out there like Fred Rogers. 1354 01:30:03,064 --> 01:30:05,521 A lot more than we really want to believe. 1355 01:30:07,903 --> 01:30:10,110 JUNLEI: In response to the question, 1356 01:30:10,405 --> 01:30:12,691 "What would Fred Rogers do?” 1357 01:30:13,283 --> 01:30:16,241 It’s not a question that you can answer. 1358 01:30:17,871 --> 01:30:21,989 The most important question is, "What are you going to do?" 1359 01:30:22,542 --> 01:30:25,409 From the time you were very little, 1360 01:30:25,962 --> 01:30:30,331 you’ve had people who have smiled you into smiling. 1361 01:30:30,884 --> 01:30:34,752 People who have talked you into talking. 1362 01:30:35,555 --> 01:30:38,046 Sung you into singing. 1363 01:30:38,934 --> 01:30:41,471 Loved you into loving. 1364 01:30:41,937 --> 01:30:44,644 REV. GEORGE WIRTH: When he was giving speeches, he would say, 1365 01:30:44,773 --> 01:30:49,187 "Now, think about somebody who’s helped you along the way 1366 01:30:50,070 --> 01:30:53,062 "for one minute. I’m going to time you. " 1367 01:30:55,075 --> 01:30:57,157 FRED: Let’s just take some time 1368 01:30:57,494 --> 01:31:00,611 to think of those extra special people. 1369 01:31:04,584 --> 01:31:05,573 Mmm. 1370 01:31:06,127 --> 01:31:08,368 Some of them may be right here. 1371 01:31:09,631 --> 01:31:11,747 Some may be far away. 1372 01:31:12,926 --> 01:31:15,292 Some may even be in heaven. 1373 01:31:16,596 --> 01:31:20,589 No matter where they are, deep down you know 1374 01:31:20,767 --> 01:31:23,759 they’ve always wanted what was best for you. 1375 01:31:24,938 --> 01:31:28,271 They’ve always cared about you beyond measure 1376 01:31:29,275 --> 01:31:32,358 and have encouraged you to be true 1377 01:31:32,570 --> 01:31:34,652 to the best within you. 1378 01:31:47,794 --> 01:31:49,534 (INTERVIEWER SPEAKING) 1379 01:31:49,629 --> 01:31:50,709 My mother. 1380 01:31:51,297 --> 01:31:55,631 How I got to this point, because it was my grandfather’s doing. 1381 01:31:55,885 --> 01:32:00,003 There was this woman named Viola who used to take care of me 1382 01:32:00,098 --> 01:32:02,134 when lwas little. She was our babysitter. 1383 01:32:03,226 --> 01:32:04,966 I thought about Fred. 1384 01:32:06,312 --> 01:32:07,301 How about you? 1385 01:32:07,397 --> 01:32:08,386 (INTERVIEWER SPEAKING) 1386 01:32:23,705 --> 01:32:25,161 (SlGHS SOFTLY) 1387 01:32:25,665 --> 01:32:26,905 Thank you. 1388 01:32:32,672 --> 01:32:37,666 (SINGING) It’s such a good feeling to know you’re alive 1389 01:32:38,053 --> 01:32:42,717 It’s such a happy feeling you’re growing inside 1390 01:32:42,891 --> 01:32:46,383 And when you wake up ready to say 1391 01:32:46,728 --> 01:32:50,516 "I think I’ll make a snappy new day" 1392 01:32:50,940 --> 01:32:55,400 It’s such a good feeling A very good feeling 1393 01:32:55,570 --> 01:32:59,233 The feeling you know that we’re friends 1394 01:32:59,407 --> 01:33:02,399 WOMAN: Please welcome, Jeffrey Erlanger. 1395 01:33:09,751 --> 01:33:13,209 lam so glad to see you. Thank you. You too. 1396 01:33:13,379 --> 01:33:16,917 Oh! What a surprise! 1397 01:33:42,408 --> 01:33:45,571 You help to make each day a special day 1398 01:33:45,662 --> 01:33:48,654 by just you're being yourself. 1399 01:33:48,748 --> 01:33:53,492 There is nobody else in the whole world who's exactly like you. 1400 01:33:53,586 --> 01:33:58,205 And people can like you exactly as you are. 1401 01:33:58,299 --> 01:34:00,460 You are special. 114468

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