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This is good stuff here too. Look at this, G‐Bo. 17 00:01:36,513 --> 00:01:39,558 Oh, my God. They got all kinds of stuff over here. 18 00:01:39,641 --> 00:01:41,977 There's a lot of dynamics with this room. 19 00:01:46,982 --> 00:01:49,860 Oh, G‐Bo! Look at this. Look at this. 20 00:01:49,943 --> 00:01:51,236 ( pats box spring ) 21 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,405 ‐ Yeah, that's good. ‐ Perfect. 22 00:01:53,488 --> 00:01:55,407 It's got like a canvas texture to it. 23 00:01:55,490 --> 00:01:56,783 Perfect. 24 00:01:56,867 --> 00:01:58,910 Jimmy: If you had told me a year ago, 25 00:01:58,994 --> 00:02:00,787 where we were and where we are, 26 00:02:00,871 --> 00:02:04,249 that this is the deal, I would've never believed it. 27 00:02:04,333 --> 00:02:06,543 ‐ OK, so I have a thought. ‐ What? 28 00:02:06,627 --> 00:02:08,670 I think if we flip these babies around 29 00:02:08,754 --> 00:02:11,423 and throw‐‐ get our paint on 'em, they're gonna dry, 30 00:02:11,506 --> 00:02:13,508 and then we can flip 'em back around 31 00:02:13,592 --> 00:02:16,386 and put our‐‐ our strings on while they're kinda drying. 32 00:02:16,470 --> 00:02:18,930 'Cause at some point I'm gonna put it on the wall. 33 00:02:19,014 --> 00:02:19,973 OK. 34 00:02:21,308 --> 00:02:23,852 These are nice and light, this is perfect. 35 00:02:23,935 --> 00:02:26,605 ‐ The box springs are light. ‐ They're like a canvas, 36 00:02:26,688 --> 00:02:29,358 so the objective is to use the box springs 37 00:02:29,441 --> 00:02:31,735 so we have two separate pieces‐‐ 38 00:02:31,818 --> 00:02:33,987 Gianni Arone, Jimmy Ray Flynn‐‐ 39 00:02:34,071 --> 00:02:36,657 and then everything else is up for grabs. 40 00:02:40,535 --> 00:02:41,828 Yeah, nice. 41 00:02:41,912 --> 00:02:44,289 Uh, you're not gonna hit the edges? 42 00:02:44,373 --> 00:02:45,874 I'm just going... 43 00:02:45,957 --> 00:02:48,752 ‐ Hit those edges. ‐ You hit those edges. 44 00:02:48,835 --> 00:02:51,546 ‐ OK. ‐ I didn't mean it for real. 45 00:02:51,630 --> 00:02:53,548 ( laughs ) 46 00:02:55,217 --> 00:02:56,093 ‐ Hey. ‐ What? 47 00:02:56,176 --> 00:02:57,594 You said I could hit the edges. 48 00:02:57,677 --> 00:02:59,805 ‐ No, leave it. ‐ No, baby, come on. 49 00:02:59,888 --> 00:03:02,099 ‐ They gotta have the balance. ‐ No, they don't. 50 00:03:02,182 --> 00:03:04,643 ‐ No, you don't. ‐ Just let me finish it. 51 00:03:04,726 --> 00:03:06,186 All right. 52 00:03:11,983 --> 00:03:13,693 Yeah, I'm gonna have to wait till this dries. 53 00:03:13,777 --> 00:03:15,445 Yeah, it's gotta dry a little bit. 54 00:03:15,529 --> 00:03:17,531 Do you wanna do like... 55 00:03:17,614 --> 00:03:19,157 a lamp, or you want to do something else? 56 00:03:19,241 --> 00:03:21,576 Because I'm gonna be doing some collage stuff. 57 00:03:27,999 --> 00:03:29,668 Gianni: I'm not an artist 58 00:03:29,751 --> 00:03:31,336 who is formally trained 59 00:03:31,420 --> 00:03:33,922 and who is doing oils 60 00:03:34,005 --> 00:03:36,675 and, like, rendering lifelike drawings. 61 00:03:36,758 --> 00:03:39,177 I just like makin'. 62 00:03:39,261 --> 00:03:41,555 Jimmy: Looks good. 63 00:03:41,638 --> 00:03:45,350 Did I spell "experiencing" right? Dad? 64 00:03:45,434 --> 00:03:47,686 Oh, shit. Is this, like, a spelling thing? 65 00:03:47,769 --> 00:03:49,813 ‐ I don't know. ‐ "Experien..." 66 00:03:49,896 --> 00:03:51,523 Can't tell. I can't remember. 67 00:03:51,606 --> 00:03:53,734 Spelling's not my thing. 68 00:03:53,817 --> 00:03:58,321 I think so. Jimi Hendrix Experience. Let's see... 69 00:03:58,405 --> 00:04:00,615 ‐ I don't know. ‐ Yeah, it's fine. 70 00:04:00,699 --> 00:04:03,034 Jimmy: I work fast and in the moment, 71 00:04:03,118 --> 00:04:05,162 I stay in the process. 72 00:04:05,245 --> 00:04:07,080 ( Jimmy laughing ) 73 00:04:07,164 --> 00:04:09,666 I like that. I like when you do that shit. 74 00:04:09,750 --> 00:04:10,959 That's, like, my favorite, 75 00:04:11,042 --> 00:04:12,878 when you start spoofing on heads. 76 00:04:12,961 --> 00:04:15,589 Gianni: I just like getting into it, 77 00:04:15,672 --> 00:04:17,716 and I love installations. 78 00:04:17,799 --> 00:04:21,052 So to be able to use the parameters of the room... 79 00:04:21,136 --> 00:04:23,472 because it's an installation. 80 00:04:24,931 --> 00:04:28,393 I like that. That's great. We gotta chop that wall up. 81 00:04:28,477 --> 00:04:30,228 That's a piece. 82 00:04:30,312 --> 00:04:32,939 Jimmy: I am his biggest fan. I'm his number‐‐ 83 00:04:33,023 --> 00:04:35,358 I love a lot of artists, but he's‐‐ he's the best. 84 00:04:35,442 --> 00:04:38,570 Gianni, you picked out some really good things. 85 00:04:38,653 --> 00:04:40,697 This is great. It's got tape on it, too. 86 00:04:40,781 --> 00:04:41,907 Yeah, that's the one I liked. 87 00:04:41,990 --> 00:04:43,950 ‐ You keep this one. ‐ No, use it. 88 00:04:44,034 --> 00:04:45,202 ‐ Keep it. ‐ Use it. 89 00:04:45,285 --> 00:04:46,620 OK. 90 00:04:46,703 --> 00:04:48,330 Jimmy: He kinda like inspired me. 91 00:04:48,413 --> 00:04:51,917 We had talked about collaborating for a long time, 92 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,169 but there's something that happened this year 93 00:04:54,252 --> 00:04:57,214 with Gianni dealing with his‐‐ 94 00:04:57,297 --> 00:04:58,590 I call it "mental wellness," 95 00:04:58,673 --> 00:05:00,967 that allowed it to flow 96 00:05:01,051 --> 00:05:02,385 in a way that didn't feel forced. 97 00:05:02,469 --> 00:05:04,554 I said, "Hey, man, you wanna do this?" 98 00:05:04,638 --> 00:05:07,682 "Yeah, let's do it." We started doing it. 99 00:05:09,226 --> 00:05:11,144 I like this, G‐Bo. 100 00:05:11,228 --> 00:05:13,480 I like the two ones. 101 00:05:13,563 --> 00:05:15,482 ‐ Yeah? ‐ Yeah. 102 00:05:15,565 --> 00:05:16,858 I like it. 103 00:05:16,942 --> 00:05:20,070 This is like my favorite material. Yeah. 104 00:05:27,536 --> 00:05:30,372 Jimmy: Can you get out of that light for a second, please? 105 00:05:31,540 --> 00:05:34,125 ‐ Yeah, you. ‐ ( camera clicks ) 106 00:05:34,209 --> 00:05:36,795 Tell me that doesn't look fucking cool. 107 00:05:36,878 --> 00:05:38,588 Yeah. 108 00:05:38,672 --> 00:05:40,507 Gianni: I know a lot of my friends 109 00:05:40,590 --> 00:05:42,884 have fractured relationships with their dads. 110 00:05:49,558 --> 00:05:51,226 Younger Jimmy: My buddies. 111 00:05:53,812 --> 00:05:55,772 Say, "Hi, Mom." 112 00:05:55,856 --> 00:05:59,359 Gianni: As a little kid, I just remember a present father. 113 00:06:03,238 --> 00:06:05,282 He just created, like, 114 00:06:05,365 --> 00:06:07,826 a nurturing environment for creativity. 115 00:06:07,909 --> 00:06:10,829 He would put on, like, Tracy Chapman and music 116 00:06:10,912 --> 00:06:13,873 and we would get pots and pans and play the drums. 117 00:06:13,957 --> 00:06:16,167 Jimmy: Happy birthday. I'm gonna go now. 118 00:06:16,251 --> 00:06:18,169 I want you to give me a kiss. 119 00:06:18,253 --> 00:06:19,671 ( kiss ) 120 00:06:19,754 --> 00:06:23,633 And he's grown into my best friend. 121 00:06:23,717 --> 00:06:25,927 It wasn't always like that. 122 00:06:28,263 --> 00:06:30,682 Jimmy: Ahh, yeah, 123 00:06:30,765 --> 00:06:33,268 it really didn't start to happen until the friggin'‐‐ 124 00:06:33,351 --> 00:06:35,478 started with the drugs and alcohol. 125 00:06:35,562 --> 00:06:37,856 I mean, that's when it just became a whole 'nother animal. 126 00:06:37,939 --> 00:06:43,028 That's when it started to be this clear kind of... uh‐oh. 127 00:06:43,111 --> 00:06:44,362 ( paint can rattling ) 128 00:06:44,446 --> 00:06:46,364 You gotta be careful with the spray paint, though. 129 00:06:46,448 --> 00:06:48,450 ‐ I know. ‐ All right. 130 00:06:51,244 --> 00:06:53,705 Gianni: Yeah, it was shortly after high school 131 00:06:53,788 --> 00:06:56,875 when I just opened up to something and I just 132 00:06:56,958 --> 00:06:58,877 ( snaps fingers ) went in. I mean, 133 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:02,255 you go from smokin' weed after high school 134 00:07:02,339 --> 00:07:03,590 to next year doin' meth, 135 00:07:03,673 --> 00:07:06,176 ‐ like smokin' crystal meth, ‐ Ohh. 136 00:07:06,259 --> 00:07:07,886 ‐ which is just like a‐‐ ‐ The fuckin' worst. 137 00:07:07,969 --> 00:07:10,096 Which is like a epidemic of a drug, 138 00:07:10,180 --> 00:07:13,975 and took me to places I thought I'd never go to 139 00:07:14,059 --> 00:07:16,770 emotionally, physically, 140 00:07:16,853 --> 00:07:19,189 mentally, spiritually, psychologically. 141 00:07:19,272 --> 00:07:20,982 It'll steal your friggin' soul. I don't give a shit, 142 00:07:21,066 --> 00:07:22,651 I hear him say the word "meth," 143 00:07:22,734 --> 00:07:25,570 and I get like, "I'm goin' to another place now," 144 00:07:25,654 --> 00:07:28,114 'cause I just‐‐ it's, like, evil. 145 00:07:29,824 --> 00:07:32,452 Gianni: Not only did I do meth, but I did LSD, 146 00:07:32,535 --> 00:07:33,703 I did mushrooms, I smoked weed. 147 00:07:33,787 --> 00:07:35,622 I smoked heroin once. 148 00:07:35,705 --> 00:07:36,998 I went down the pipeline of, 149 00:07:37,082 --> 00:07:39,292 "What does it do? How does it affect me? 150 00:07:39,376 --> 00:07:40,377 Let's try it." 151 00:07:42,504 --> 00:07:45,423 I was microdosing LSD for, like, a year straight. 152 00:07:45,507 --> 00:07:50,178 And, like, that has a huge effect on your brain chemistry, 153 00:07:50,261 --> 00:07:53,014 and I started hearing voices. 154 00:08:00,355 --> 00:08:03,984 I'm gonna start my collaging. I'm gonna collage over here. 155 00:08:04,067 --> 00:08:06,069 I'm gonna work over here. 156 00:08:06,152 --> 00:08:08,279 You know, it's interesting we're doing this now, 157 00:08:08,363 --> 00:08:11,199 we're literally coming up on the year anniversary. 158 00:08:13,702 --> 00:08:16,121 Let me just back it up a second. 159 00:08:16,204 --> 00:08:18,123 Younger Jimmy: Make a little wish, OK? 160 00:08:18,206 --> 00:08:20,625 The night Gianni was born, I remember him coming out 161 00:08:20,709 --> 00:08:23,128 and watching the life come into his body. 162 00:08:23,211 --> 00:08:25,213 He just looked at me. It was surreal. 163 00:08:26,297 --> 00:08:30,802 Cut to December fifth... 164 00:08:30,885 --> 00:08:32,887 of last year. 165 00:08:32,971 --> 00:08:35,849 He came to my house 166 00:08:35,932 --> 00:08:38,810 in a full‐blown psychotic episode. 167 00:08:38,893 --> 00:08:40,770 I didn't know who the fuck he was. 168 00:08:45,817 --> 00:08:47,777 We had this thing literally in the backyard, 169 00:08:47,861 --> 00:08:50,113 we were sitting there, we were talking across from each other, 170 00:08:50,196 --> 00:08:51,990 and he was like in a full‐blown episode. 171 00:08:52,073 --> 00:08:53,408 At one point he said to me, 172 00:08:53,491 --> 00:08:55,535 "Don't worry, I'm not gonna kill you." 173 00:08:55,618 --> 00:08:57,996 And I thought, "Is this motherfucker thinkin' about killin' me?" 174 00:08:58,079 --> 00:09:00,290 And I was petrified. 175 00:09:00,373 --> 00:09:02,542 I said, "Gianni, I'm gonna go in the house and get some water." 176 00:09:02,625 --> 00:09:04,294 I went in the house and I called the cops. 177 00:09:04,377 --> 00:09:06,921 And I said, "You gotta come and get my son." 178 00:09:09,132 --> 00:09:10,258 Ahh... 179 00:09:10,341 --> 00:09:12,927 All I know is, it was like 180 00:09:13,011 --> 00:09:15,930 the hardest thing I've ever had to do in my life. 181 00:09:21,269 --> 00:09:24,522 The cops come, Gianni got in the car 182 00:09:24,606 --> 00:09:26,357 and, you know, they took him 183 00:09:26,441 --> 00:09:28,026 to the fucking psych unit and shit, 184 00:09:28,109 --> 00:09:30,028 and we went there, first night I go in, 185 00:09:30,111 --> 00:09:32,697 he's like fuckin' doing cartwheels 186 00:09:32,781 --> 00:09:34,032 or backflips in the thing, 187 00:09:34,115 --> 00:09:35,533 he's head‐butting me, 188 00:09:35,617 --> 00:09:37,494 he's really angry, really agitated. 189 00:09:37,577 --> 00:09:38,995 And then we found out 190 00:09:39,079 --> 00:09:41,623 that he's got a dual diagnosis. 191 00:09:41,706 --> 00:09:45,293 Couple that with the addiction‐‐ it's a mental illness. 192 00:09:45,376 --> 00:09:48,296 So now you're dealing with a whole 'nother thing. 193 00:09:50,548 --> 00:09:53,968 ‐ How ya doin', G? ‐ Eh. 194 00:09:54,052 --> 00:09:56,221 Yeah, it's... 195 00:09:56,304 --> 00:09:59,390 ‐ It's all over the place. ‐ Yeah. 196 00:09:59,474 --> 00:10:01,851 All right, well, it's your thing, baby. 197 00:10:09,943 --> 00:10:11,653 Let's put a whole series together... 198 00:10:11,736 --> 00:10:14,489 Gianni: I've been diagnosed bipolar I and II, 199 00:10:14,572 --> 00:10:16,699 schizoaffective, schizophrenic. 200 00:10:16,783 --> 00:10:19,702 I don't know if my mental illness was caused from my drug use‐‐ 201 00:10:19,786 --> 00:10:21,913 Is it chemically induced mental illness, 202 00:10:21,996 --> 00:10:23,832 or is actually something that's biological? 203 00:10:23,915 --> 00:10:25,333 Or something that onset later? 204 00:10:27,001 --> 00:10:28,920 They would diagnose me, 205 00:10:29,003 --> 00:10:30,922 and I'd do the meds for a little bit, 206 00:10:31,005 --> 00:10:33,174 then I'd take myself off 'em because I was just like, 207 00:10:33,258 --> 00:10:35,802 I'm an alcoholic and I'm an addict, 208 00:10:35,885 --> 00:10:37,262 and I like feeling high, 209 00:10:37,345 --> 00:10:40,598 and when I'm unmedicated and I go into mania, 210 00:10:40,682 --> 00:10:42,392 I feel high from that. 211 00:10:45,395 --> 00:10:46,980 I like feeling a little off, 212 00:10:47,063 --> 00:10:48,565 I like feeling a little weird, 213 00:10:48,648 --> 00:10:50,942 I like feeling a little askew 214 00:10:51,025 --> 00:10:54,195 and not totally bolted to the ground. 215 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,117 Can you throw me one of those rags real quick? 216 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:00,368 Like the big hand? 217 00:11:02,078 --> 00:11:04,622 It's a little too big for my taste, but‐‐ 218 00:11:04,706 --> 00:11:06,374 Can you throw me one of those rags, please? 219 00:11:08,459 --> 00:11:10,587 Maybe it is too big of a hand. 220 00:11:12,755 --> 00:11:15,717 Wanna have a seat? Wanna sit down? 221 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:17,552 G‐Bo. 222 00:11:17,635 --> 00:11:19,262 Wanna sit down? 223 00:11:23,183 --> 00:11:26,477 I don't like it at all right now. 224 00:11:26,561 --> 00:11:29,314 There's no question in my mind you're gonna get there. 225 00:11:29,397 --> 00:11:31,524 No, I know, I'm not worried about getting there. 226 00:11:31,608 --> 00:11:35,570 You jumped in, the paint was still wet... 227 00:11:35,653 --> 00:11:38,031 ‐ You know what I mean? ‐ Looks like a big chicken. 228 00:11:38,114 --> 00:11:39,908 I don't see a chicken at all. 229 00:11:39,991 --> 00:11:41,993 I just see like a fuckin'... 230 00:11:42,076 --> 00:11:44,495 ‐ A blob. ‐ I don't see a blob, 231 00:11:44,579 --> 00:11:47,916 I just see a very exaggerated, grotesque... 232 00:11:47,999 --> 00:11:50,585 If I were you, one of the things I would do is, 233 00:11:50,668 --> 00:11:54,839 I would hit your canvas so there's kind of a little bit more white to it, 234 00:11:54,923 --> 00:11:58,301 and then as you go over it, the other things will pop out. 235 00:11:58,384 --> 00:12:00,011 ‐ Yeah, I agree. ‐ Right? 236 00:12:00,094 --> 00:12:01,471 So just hit it again. 237 00:12:05,183 --> 00:12:06,976 What are you doin'? Why don't you hit it with the roller? 238 00:12:07,060 --> 00:12:08,603 'Cause I don't like the roller. 239 00:12:08,686 --> 00:12:12,899 Ohh, Gianni, the paint's gonna take forever to dry. 240 00:12:13,942 --> 00:12:15,693 Ohh. 241 00:12:15,777 --> 00:12:18,905 He's not fuckin' listenin' to me. 242 00:12:21,115 --> 00:12:22,825 The way you're doing that, man, it's gonna take 243 00:12:22,909 --> 00:12:24,786 a long time to dry. 244 00:12:27,580 --> 00:12:30,124 These are lessons that I was supposed to learn 245 00:12:30,208 --> 00:12:32,543 about, like, backin' off, 246 00:12:32,627 --> 00:12:34,921 not micromanaging. 247 00:12:36,965 --> 00:12:38,258 Yeah, man, I would just hit that. 248 00:12:38,341 --> 00:12:39,842 Hit the edge too. 249 00:12:40,969 --> 00:12:42,303 Yeah, there you go, brother. 250 00:12:44,097 --> 00:12:45,807 Yeah, man, that's much better. 251 00:12:49,018 --> 00:12:52,146 Gianni: For me, being born into a human body 252 00:12:52,230 --> 00:12:55,233 on planet Earth didn't make sense to me. 253 00:12:55,316 --> 00:12:57,568 I'm like, what am I‐‐ what is this? 254 00:12:57,652 --> 00:13:00,863 What's this night/day, love/hate, good/bad, 255 00:13:00,947 --> 00:13:03,449 all this polarity, all this separation? 256 00:13:03,533 --> 00:13:06,661 This doesn't make sense to my inherent nature and my inherent being 257 00:13:06,744 --> 00:13:10,540 of oneness and completeness and, like, a unified whole. 258 00:13:10,623 --> 00:13:13,584 I feel fractured and separated and alone and weird, 259 00:13:13,668 --> 00:13:17,755 and I've always been fascinated with the moment of death, 260 00:13:17,839 --> 00:13:21,467 and so I... 261 00:13:21,551 --> 00:13:24,095 wanted to meet death a couple times on my own sword. 262 00:13:24,178 --> 00:13:26,889 Maybe I'll just do a big horse on it. 263 00:13:32,228 --> 00:13:34,355 For me, I had... 264 00:13:34,439 --> 00:13:37,025 two attempts on my life, 265 00:13:37,108 --> 00:13:39,944 one was when I was younger, 266 00:13:40,028 --> 00:13:42,780 and then the last one was more intentional. 267 00:13:42,864 --> 00:13:44,657 Gonna wait for it to dry. 268 00:13:44,741 --> 00:13:47,452 I had an episode that I can only describe 269 00:13:47,535 --> 00:13:49,454 as losing the letters and the numbers. 270 00:13:49,537 --> 00:13:52,415 I couldn't articulate myself, and therefore, 271 00:13:52,498 --> 00:13:54,459 when I came out of the psychosis 272 00:13:54,542 --> 00:13:55,793 I couldn't relate to anyone. 273 00:13:55,877 --> 00:13:58,588 And I created this rig, 274 00:13:58,671 --> 00:14:01,632 and I was about to turn on the switch, 275 00:14:01,716 --> 00:14:03,384 and then there was a knock on my door, 276 00:14:03,468 --> 00:14:07,013 and my ex‐girlfriend Sunshine knocked on‐‐ opened the door 277 00:14:07,096 --> 00:14:10,475 and saved my life, called my dad. 278 00:14:10,558 --> 00:14:12,518 Jimmy: As he's telling you he's whatever, 279 00:14:12,602 --> 00:14:14,395 I have to respect what he's saying, 280 00:14:14,479 --> 00:14:15,813 'cause it's real for him. 281 00:14:15,897 --> 00:14:18,941 There was a point when he was either 282 00:14:19,025 --> 00:14:21,069 in the hospital or just getting out, 283 00:14:21,152 --> 00:14:23,613 I said, "You know something? I will talk to you, 284 00:14:23,696 --> 00:14:25,239 but I won't talk to your psychosis." 285 00:14:25,323 --> 00:14:28,743 So for him to tell you this story, 286 00:14:28,826 --> 00:14:30,953 and for me to listen to it, whatever, 287 00:14:31,037 --> 00:14:32,246 I have to remind myself 288 00:14:32,330 --> 00:14:33,956 they're very real for him. 289 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,125 I don't relate to it, you know? 290 00:14:36,209 --> 00:14:37,794 I mean, I don't fuckin' relate to it, 291 00:14:37,877 --> 00:14:39,796 but it's real for him, so I gotta respect it. 292 00:14:39,879 --> 00:14:41,506 Yeah. Well. 293 00:14:41,589 --> 00:14:44,217 ‐ A horse. ‐ Yeah. 294 00:14:44,300 --> 00:14:45,885 ( both laugh ) 295 00:14:46,844 --> 00:14:48,221 Gianni: Yeah, 296 00:14:48,304 --> 00:14:51,224 today I want to live, like, uh, 297 00:14:51,307 --> 00:14:53,768 when I had those suicide attempts, 298 00:14:53,851 --> 00:14:55,686 I didn't feel like 299 00:14:55,770 --> 00:14:57,939 this life that I'm living today was possible 300 00:14:58,022 --> 00:15:00,817 or even on my radar, so more will be revealed 301 00:15:00,900 --> 00:15:03,111 if you stick around. 302 00:15:06,030 --> 00:15:08,199 Today, like, I like peace of mind. 303 00:15:08,282 --> 00:15:11,077 For the most part if someone asks me how I'm doing, 304 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,955 it's like, not too high, not too low, 305 00:15:14,038 --> 00:15:16,624 not a lot going on upstairs, it's just quiet. 306 00:15:16,707 --> 00:15:19,377 This is the first time in my life I've felt like that, 307 00:15:19,460 --> 00:15:21,420 but it's two components: 308 00:15:21,504 --> 00:15:24,132 being sober and being med‐compliant. 309 00:15:24,215 --> 00:15:26,884 You got so much friggin' paint on it. ( laughs ) 310 00:15:26,968 --> 00:15:29,387 You got a ton of paint on this, Gianni. 311 00:15:29,470 --> 00:15:31,389 ‐ Yeah. ‐ Ohh. 312 00:15:31,472 --> 00:15:33,141 Jimmy: I myself had a‐‐ 313 00:15:33,224 --> 00:15:35,101 I don't want to call it a suicide attempt, 314 00:15:35,184 --> 00:15:36,853 but I ended up in a 72‐hour hold in a psych unit 315 00:15:36,936 --> 00:15:41,274 back in whatever year, it was 1989, '90. 316 00:15:41,357 --> 00:15:44,235 Gianni's mom and I were going through 317 00:15:44,318 --> 00:15:47,905 a really hard time and we split up, 318 00:15:47,989 --> 00:15:50,074 and I don't want to get into details, 319 00:15:50,158 --> 00:15:52,410 but I never forget this friggin' guy 320 00:15:52,493 --> 00:15:55,079 sittin' across from me and saying, 321 00:15:55,163 --> 00:15:58,332 "You realize you're never gonna see your kids again, right?" 322 00:15:58,416 --> 00:16:00,543 And it was like, boom. 323 00:16:01,794 --> 00:16:03,796 Sound. Be ready. 324 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:05,715 ( power tool whirs ) 325 00:16:05,798 --> 00:16:08,593 I'm from that generation of men 326 00:16:08,676 --> 00:16:09,927 where you didn't go to therapy. 327 00:16:10,011 --> 00:16:12,305 When you got into those places, 328 00:16:12,388 --> 00:16:14,140 you just friggin' toughed it out. 329 00:16:14,223 --> 00:16:16,559 But you know what? It doesn't always work that way. 330 00:16:16,642 --> 00:16:21,272 When you're in crisis, when you're in that state, 331 00:16:21,355 --> 00:16:23,858 you have to find a way to ask for help. 332 00:16:23,941 --> 00:16:26,903 You have to find a way to get yourself into 333 00:16:26,986 --> 00:16:29,280 a safe environment with professionals, 334 00:16:29,363 --> 00:16:32,742 and there's people out there that will help you 335 00:16:32,825 --> 00:16:35,036 take one foot in front of the other. 336 00:16:35,119 --> 00:16:36,245 Yeah, it takes a lot of courage. 337 00:16:36,329 --> 00:16:37,580 It takes guts. 338 00:16:37,663 --> 00:16:39,582 And on some level I have a lot of guilt, 339 00:16:39,665 --> 00:16:41,459 and I think sometimes my behavior 340 00:16:41,542 --> 00:16:44,253 in what I did at that time, 341 00:16:44,337 --> 00:16:45,671 when I hurt myself‐‐ 342 00:16:45,755 --> 00:16:47,465 Gianni was like seven years old. 343 00:16:47,548 --> 00:16:50,551 I made mistakes, man, I did some things, 344 00:16:50,635 --> 00:16:52,595 and I can't take any of it back, 345 00:16:52,678 --> 00:16:54,805 but I realize, you know what, 346 00:16:54,889 --> 00:16:58,059 it's just part of what's happened in my life. 347 00:17:01,145 --> 00:17:04,815 Gianni: Oh, yeah, man, that looks good! 348 00:17:04,899 --> 00:17:06,817 That's dope. 349 00:17:06,901 --> 00:17:08,069 Fuck yeah. 350 00:17:08,152 --> 00:17:10,154 What do you think? G‐Bo. 351 00:17:10,238 --> 00:17:11,614 Oh, yeah, dude. 352 00:17:14,408 --> 00:17:16,494 I like the way that hangs and shit. 353 00:17:16,577 --> 00:17:17,787 ‐ You like that? ‐ Yeah, man. 354 00:17:17,870 --> 00:17:19,372 Jimmy: Looks pretty good. 355 00:17:19,455 --> 00:17:23,626 I'm faced with a little bit of a decision. 356 00:17:24,919 --> 00:17:26,170 Revolver Head? 357 00:17:26,254 --> 00:17:28,589 Gianni: No Revolver Head, no. 358 00:17:28,673 --> 00:17:30,967 See how the Grotjahn looks. 359 00:17:33,594 --> 00:17:35,221 I love this fucking guy. 360 00:17:36,556 --> 00:17:37,932 I'm not sure if that's gonna work. 361 00:17:38,015 --> 00:17:39,725 ‐ There's too much color. ‐ Yeah. 362 00:17:40,977 --> 00:17:42,603 Ahh. 363 00:17:42,687 --> 00:17:44,397 I don't think that's gonna work. 364 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,774 ‐ I like the donut. ‐ I like the donut too. 365 00:17:46,857 --> 00:17:51,571 Yeah, this is‐‐ this is not gonna work like that. 366 00:17:54,407 --> 00:17:57,868 Gianni: For me, the mainstay has been this mantra I've had 367 00:17:57,952 --> 00:18:00,538 which is "Process is king." And I find that, like, 368 00:18:00,621 --> 00:18:02,206 in the moment of creating, 369 00:18:02,290 --> 00:18:04,166 no matter what your mental state is, 370 00:18:04,250 --> 00:18:06,919 there's some magical machination 371 00:18:07,003 --> 00:18:09,422 that happens in the moment of doing something. 372 00:18:09,505 --> 00:18:11,424 Whether you're hitting the keys on the piano, 373 00:18:11,507 --> 00:18:13,426 whether you're a dancer and you're in the moment of flight, 374 00:18:13,509 --> 00:18:15,720 whether you're hitting the canvas for the first time, 375 00:18:15,803 --> 00:18:17,888 and it's just that movement of the brush 376 00:18:17,972 --> 00:18:19,432 on the canvas. 377 00:18:19,515 --> 00:18:21,559 In that moment, that's where it is, 378 00:18:21,642 --> 00:18:22,935 that's where it's at. 379 00:18:24,478 --> 00:18:26,022 Is that a Christmas tree? 380 00:18:26,105 --> 00:18:29,358 These weird little trees I've been drawing lately... 381 00:18:29,442 --> 00:18:31,319 that bring me joy. 382 00:18:31,402 --> 00:18:33,904 Gianni: No matter what my state is, 383 00:18:33,988 --> 00:18:35,573 I can go to that and have that 384 00:18:35,656 --> 00:18:37,199 as my, like‐‐ phtt!‐‐ 385 00:18:37,283 --> 00:18:38,909 centered, boom, know what to do. 386 00:18:38,993 --> 00:18:40,870 That's the gratifying thing, 387 00:18:40,953 --> 00:18:42,413 that's why I do art. 388 00:18:42,496 --> 00:18:45,207 There's restraint and pause 389 00:18:45,291 --> 00:18:46,709 and peace now, 390 00:18:46,792 --> 00:18:48,794 where I can go to a work, 391 00:18:48,878 --> 00:18:50,463 work on it, 392 00:18:50,546 --> 00:18:53,007 feel that it's OK to stop there, 393 00:18:53,090 --> 00:18:55,509 just be like, "OK, we're good." 394 00:18:56,677 --> 00:18:58,179 ( sighs ) 395 00:19:01,182 --> 00:19:03,184 I kinda like where mine's at right now. 396 00:19:03,267 --> 00:19:05,269 You gonna leave it there? It's done? 397 00:19:05,353 --> 00:19:06,354 Kinda. Yeah. For now. 398 00:19:06,437 --> 00:19:08,356 Jimmy: What about the head? 399 00:19:08,439 --> 00:19:10,941 ‐ I like it like that. ‐ Really? 400 00:19:11,025 --> 00:19:12,777 I just like the silhouette of the head. 401 00:19:12,860 --> 00:19:15,154 I don't want to put eyes on it or anything. 402 00:19:15,237 --> 00:19:18,741 I got the good jawline on the horse head. 403 00:19:18,824 --> 00:19:22,953 Gianni: Last year around this time, like, I was scared, 404 00:19:23,037 --> 00:19:26,374 I thought I wouldn't be able to do art again, but you just do art. 405 00:19:26,457 --> 00:19:29,293 I did art about not being able to do art again. 406 00:19:29,377 --> 00:19:31,879 I did a piece of art 'cause I was frustrated 407 00:19:31,962 --> 00:19:34,632 'cause it didn't feel right, but I still did it. 408 00:19:34,715 --> 00:19:38,552 And now I kinda like the piece, looking at it a year later. 409 00:19:38,636 --> 00:19:40,763 But in the time, I was just so angry 410 00:19:40,846 --> 00:19:42,973 I just felt like, "This is foreign to me, 411 00:19:43,057 --> 00:19:45,226 I don't know what to do," but you persist, 412 00:19:45,309 --> 00:19:48,062 you continue to do your craft a little bit each day. 413 00:19:48,145 --> 00:19:50,564 And if you really love it, you're gonna be inherently consistent 414 00:19:50,648 --> 00:19:52,525 because you're gonna want to do it each day. 415 00:19:52,608 --> 00:19:54,694 And the results are gonna vary, 416 00:19:54,777 --> 00:19:57,738 but process is king‐‐ stay in the process. 417 00:19:57,822 --> 00:19:59,240 Stay in the process. 418 00:19:59,323 --> 00:20:01,992 Both: Creativity doesn't know what time it is. 419 00:20:02,076 --> 00:20:04,036 That's why we want to sleep here. 420 00:20:04,120 --> 00:20:06,288 I get up in the middle of the night and work on a collage 421 00:20:06,372 --> 00:20:08,874 'cause creativity doesn't know what time it is. 422 00:20:32,773 --> 00:20:34,692 ‐ ( both laugh ) ‐ Go ahead, hit it. 423 00:20:34,775 --> 00:20:36,944 ‐ I did. ‐ No, hit it again if you want. 424 00:20:37,027 --> 00:20:39,989 I know you're dying to make a mark on it. Go ahead. 425 00:20:40,072 --> 00:20:42,575 Gianni: These are pretty singular, 426 00:20:42,658 --> 00:20:44,535 but he put on this "Sweet Dreams" last night... 427 00:20:44,618 --> 00:20:46,954 Because it was on the wall. 428 00:20:47,037 --> 00:20:48,414 and I was like, "That's awesome." 429 00:20:48,497 --> 00:20:50,040 Somebody in the crew was kind enough 430 00:20:50,124 --> 00:20:51,584 to put "Sweet Dreams" on the wall 431 00:20:51,667 --> 00:20:53,586 and I saw it and I said, "Put it in the piece." 432 00:20:53,669 --> 00:20:56,422 ‐ It's the name of the horse. ‐ We don't know who it is, 433 00:20:56,505 --> 00:20:58,466 but whoever it is, we love you. It works. 434 00:20:58,549 --> 00:21:01,177 And I made a little gold mark on his just now. 435 00:21:01,260 --> 00:21:02,678 He wants to, like, make marks, 436 00:21:02,762 --> 00:21:04,388 I don't have a problem with it. 437 00:21:04,472 --> 00:21:06,724 Like, we did this thing, the Grotjahn thing, 438 00:21:06,807 --> 00:21:08,559 and I said, "Just go hit it," 439 00:21:08,642 --> 00:21:11,479 and he just did this little friggin' whatever‐it‐is, 440 00:21:11,562 --> 00:21:12,605 and I think it's perfect. 441 00:21:12,688 --> 00:21:14,106 I think the collaboration, too, 442 00:21:14,190 --> 00:21:16,734 is, like, executing the tone of the room too, 443 00:21:16,817 --> 00:21:21,197 does this wall come together as a seamless whole? 444 00:21:38,339 --> 00:21:42,134 I, uh, caused a lot of wreckage 445 00:21:42,218 --> 00:21:43,594 and a lot of pain 446 00:21:43,677 --> 00:21:45,346 and a lot of chaos. 447 00:21:45,429 --> 00:21:49,183 And I'm still a work in progress, you know, 448 00:21:49,266 --> 00:21:51,101 I'm still really new to this. 449 00:21:51,185 --> 00:21:53,604 But a lot's changed over the course of the year 450 00:21:53,687 --> 00:21:55,606 because I put in some intense work 451 00:21:55,689 --> 00:21:58,067 and I've been trying to get‐‐ get sober 452 00:21:58,150 --> 00:22:00,110 and get healthy for a long time. 453 00:22:00,194 --> 00:22:03,739 And my living amends to my dad 454 00:22:03,823 --> 00:22:05,950 is to grant him peace of mind. 455 00:22:06,033 --> 00:22:07,618 It's a lifetime of work, 456 00:22:07,701 --> 00:22:09,578 and it's something I get to practice‐‐ 457 00:22:09,662 --> 00:22:13,082 I have the opportunity to practice each day. 458 00:22:15,042 --> 00:22:18,504 Jimmy: I had to, like, learn about patience, acceptance, 459 00:22:18,587 --> 00:22:20,714 those things that really test you. 460 00:22:20,798 --> 00:22:22,591 You say you love somebody, you say whatever, 461 00:22:22,675 --> 00:22:24,802 but until you're in that arena 462 00:22:24,885 --> 00:22:26,679 and you're wrestling with those beasts and stuff, 463 00:22:26,762 --> 00:22:29,139 that's where you find out where your character's at. 464 00:22:29,223 --> 00:22:30,891 You know, at the end of the day, 465 00:22:30,975 --> 00:22:32,560 he's someone that needs help, he's sick. 466 00:22:32,643 --> 00:22:34,436 I gotta figure out a way to have a relationship, 467 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,021 but have a boundary, 468 00:22:36,105 --> 00:22:37,898 that I can protect myself and take care of myself 469 00:22:37,982 --> 00:22:40,693 and my wife and my family. 470 00:22:46,156 --> 00:22:49,451 You know, maybe part of the thing about doing this thing 471 00:22:49,535 --> 00:22:51,662 is that I'm hoping, when somebody sees this, 472 00:22:51,745 --> 00:22:54,331 is that yeah, there's a lot of pain, 473 00:22:54,415 --> 00:22:56,458 there's a lot of scars, there's a lot of wounding, 474 00:22:56,542 --> 00:22:58,961 but you know, there is healing and there is‐‐ 475 00:22:59,044 --> 00:23:01,672 there's a light at the end of the tunnel. 476 00:23:01,755 --> 00:23:06,135 But you gotta do the work, you gotta do the time. 477 00:23:06,218 --> 00:23:09,680 When you told me the other day that you trusted me again... 478 00:23:09,763 --> 00:23:13,058 was huge... that was huge. 479 00:23:13,142 --> 00:23:15,686 ‐ Yeah, but you had to earn it. ‐ Yeah, I know. 480 00:23:15,769 --> 00:23:17,646 You had to earn it. 481 00:23:17,730 --> 00:23:19,231 And you have. 482 00:23:19,315 --> 00:23:23,611 You know, trust is a key component of any relationship. 483 00:23:23,694 --> 00:23:26,363 You don't have trust, man, you don't have honesty, 484 00:23:26,447 --> 00:23:29,199 you don't have the tenets, you don't have the foundation, 485 00:23:29,283 --> 00:23:30,951 you don't have anything. 486 00:23:31,035 --> 00:23:32,661 That's what I'm saying, you know, 487 00:23:32,745 --> 00:23:34,747 some of the stuff that went on between you and I, 488 00:23:34,830 --> 00:23:37,166 I just... it was hard shit. 489 00:23:37,249 --> 00:23:42,588 And... And I know that everything happens in life for a reason, 490 00:23:42,671 --> 00:23:46,425 but... there was a lot of pain there. 491 00:23:46,508 --> 00:23:50,596 But you know, trusting you is... 492 00:23:57,937 --> 00:24:00,689 ‐ ( voice breaking ) Thank you. ‐ You're welcome, Papa. 493 00:24:00,773 --> 00:24:02,775 No, really, fuckin' thanks. 494 00:24:02,858 --> 00:24:05,694 I'm not gonna fuckin' cry through the whole fuckin' thing. 495 00:24:05,778 --> 00:24:07,988 ‐ ( laughs ) ‐ Fuck. 496 00:24:08,072 --> 00:24:10,282 Seriously. Shit. 497 00:24:12,826 --> 00:24:14,870 ♪ I hope my body's a ghost ♪ 498 00:24:14,954 --> 00:24:18,999 ♪ I just want to lay around town ♪ 499 00:24:21,001 --> 00:24:23,420 ♪ I hope my body's a ghost ♪ 500 00:24:23,504 --> 00:24:27,508 ♪ I just want to lay around town ♪ 501 00:24:29,718 --> 00:24:33,555 ♪ Take cover when the city burns ♪ 502 00:24:33,639 --> 00:24:35,015 ♪ Lay low ♪ 503 00:24:38,018 --> 00:24:39,520 ♪ I love you, brother ♪ 504 00:24:39,603 --> 00:24:42,523 ♪ Will you shoot me when they say so? ♪ 505 00:24:47,027 --> 00:24:50,072 ♪ Take cover when the city burns ♪ 506 00:24:50,155 --> 00:24:52,074 ♪ Lay low ♪ 507 00:24:54,535 --> 00:24:56,036 ♪ I love you, brother ♪ 508 00:24:56,120 --> 00:24:59,039 ♪ Will you shoot me when they say so? ♪ 509 00:25:05,045 --> 00:25:07,589 ♪ I hope my body's a ghost ♪ 510 00:25:07,673 --> 00:25:11,051 ♪ I just want to lay around town ♪ 511 00:25:18,517 --> 00:25:21,478 MAN: (SINGING) ♪ I know the secret of it all ♪ 512 00:25:21,729 --> 00:25:23,439 ♪ (OMINOUS MUSIC PLAYS) ♪ 513 00:25:23,814 --> 00:25:24,898 ♪ Longing ♪ 514 00:25:26,066 --> 00:25:27,192 ♪ Waiting ♪ 515 00:25:28,360 --> 00:25:30,362 ‐♪ You're... ♪ ‐(SCREAMING) 516 00:25:30,946 --> 00:25:32,072 (SILENCE) 517 00:25:32,406 --> 00:25:35,743 For it is love and love alone, the rules for aye. 518 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,120 ♪ (MUSIC CONTINUES) ♪ 519 00:25:40,622 --> 00:25:42,124 ♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 41058

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